Lisa Nichols: How to Go From Terrified of Speaking to Magnetically Captivating Any Room

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Okay, everybody, this is going to be a brief podcast, a powerful but short, powerful podcast because I have my friend Lisa Nichols here again.

Thank you for being here.

I'm so glad to be back.

Thank you for having me back.

This is a pleasure.

The pleasure is all mine.

But before we start, we have only like a few minutes with you today.

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Okay, Lisa, you are like to me, I like watch your stuff.

I watch your videos.

I watch your, like, what you do on stage.

And you're so captivating.

We were talking about this outside.

You're so just naturally motivating.

And I was saying outside, like, it's such, it's so natural.

Like, how, can you actually, do you really believe you can teach somebody to be magnetic?

Or is it something that we have to be born with?

For years, I thought I couldn't.

I've been told for years, you got something.

And I didn't know quite for a while how to teach it to others.

And then I spent seven days locked in my office and I wrote down everything that I did.

They had really wonky names and I just kind of wrote down what I was doing.

And then I was able to put it into a technique.

Five years later, I see people doing the technique.

So the answer is yes.

You can go from a zero, I'm deathly afraid of speaking to a four you can go from a four to an eight i've seen it all you need to learn are the techniques speaking uh impactful speaking is more than information right it it blends science it blends art it blends a sense of vulnerability it it blends techniques and there's 16 techniques and i'm adamant about teaching those techniques all to make you more impactful.

So what's the number one mistake people make when they're trying trying to impact people but they're just giving too much communication too much information that's the mistake oh is that okay the mistake is that they think information is impactful right information is not impactful information is educational and you have to decide number one the number one thing that people don't realize is that there's four types of speakers there's an informational speaker which majority of people fall in there's a motivational speaker outward energy rah rah go get them there's an inspirational speaker it's an inside job more quiet.

And then there's a transformational coach who speaks as a way to invite you into your transformation.

Most people don't know that there are three distinctions.

Oh, wow.

So like a Tony Robbins.

Four distinctions.

What would he be?

What would Tony Robbins?

Motivational.

Motivational.

And then he moved into transformational because you be with him long enough, you'll get changed.

But he's definitely topical.

Motivation.

Tony Robbins, Les Brown.

Yeah.

Topical.

Marion Williamson, Wayne Dyer, inspirational.

And what are you?

Transformational.

But I started motivational.

So you can move through the, you can move through the different genres.

I started motivational.

I thought I was motivational.

So I compared myself to Tony Robbins and Les Brown, and I lost the comparison every single time.

And then I realized I'm not motivational.

People still call me that.

I'm not motivated.

I started inspirational.

I started inside job.

I would speak and people go, mmm.

And I wanted to go, yeah.

And I go, I suck.

Right.

Well, I was always inspirational.

A lot of people start informational and they move from information to inspiration.

Most of the time, information doesn't move to motivation.

It's too big of a from head to physical, but information can move to inspiration.

And all levels require information.

Right.

So your information is never non-valid.

It's never, it's always important.

It's the core of your message.

But what do you wrap around the message?

It's almost like make me a great dish, but put it in an amazing crust.

And that crust is the experience.

Put it in an amazing package.

Don't just inform me, inspire me.

People want to be inspired way more than they want to be informed, especially in this day and age.

And the number one,

if I say number one five times, and it's five different number ones, but one of the main things you could do for an audience to want more of you is let them see themselves in you.

That requires technique.

Yes.

And no matter where I am, I was in Kazakhstan and Kiev and Swaziland where people didn't speak any English and they were saying, I am like you in another language.

You are like me.

You can show any audience themselves when you use the right technique in the right way.

It's a powerful art.

It's a powerful art.

And storytelling, now I just have to say this.

We're no longer in a traditional economy.

We are now, Jennifer, in an influence economy.

And in an influence economy, people don't care as much about products as they care about the person.

They don't care much about the credentials as much as they care about the connection.

And so if there's ever a time for you to master your message and master the delivery of your message, it's now because people will choose you, then buy from you.

I totally agree.

By the way, you couldn't have said it better.

I totally 100% agree.

That's why I think this is very important because everybody now is a personal brand.

No matter what you are, you have to have, you have to, you have to be able to sell your personal brand through storytelling.

But storytelling is, I still go back to my, my point.

It's, it could be very difficult if you don't have the right tools.

Absolutely.

And then if you don't, if you haven't mastered how to create stories organically, you'll become a one-hit wonder.

Well, that's the thing.

So like people like you who are natural, I say you're so naturally passionate and vulnerable and and a good storyteller.

I have a few friends like you who do this well.

Jesse Itzler is also a friend of mine who does a very good job at storytelling and he's very, very good on stage, but that's a craft.

And so I guess my first, my, my, not my first question, but I guess my, what I want you to help and help guide us and me, you know, is where do people begin?

Because I think everyone has a story.

They don't think their story is valid, right?

They don't think it's, it's strong enough.

It's bold enough.

How do we create a story within ourselves to even start with the storytelling?

So I'll give you three things that you could do to immediately increase the impact of delivering a message.

Whether you're delivering a story or delivering content.

Content is always flat.

It's content.

It's what you put around the content that makes the experience more exciting.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Give me an example.

So if you're giving me three points, three ways to be healthier, those three ways don't change.

Those three ways don't ever get exciting.

It's what you tell me right before you give me the way number one and what you tell me right after you give me weight number three that makes the entire experience of you feel better.

Let me give you another example.

Let me take you a little further.

So there's a story attached to you.

There's a story in your why.

I'm going to make stuff up right now.

Yeah, yeah.

But watch this.

There was a time when I fought for my life.

I fought for my health.

I lived in a private health hell.

No one knew about it.

I made thousands of dollars a month.

I was quite successful on the outside, but on the inside, I was miserable.

My heart wasn't working right.

My body wasn't responding right.

And I felt lost in my own body.

It betrayed me.

I found three things that turned me around, three things that made life worth living again.

I want to share those three things with you.

Now, I don't know the three things.

I'm just making this up.

I was like, what are the three things?

That's what I'm saying.

I'm just making this up.

you know what it is if you're shy like what you just did if someone is a shy person

they're not going to be able to execute on that like hold on you mean like beyonce

well

beyonce's a but she's but she is a she's fierce she's like known to be she's touched a fear she turns it on she turns it on you mean like damita joe do you know who damita joe is i know damita joe is that's janet jackson who's very shy very shy so what about a shy question okay but that's what i'm saying you know like when someone has like, okay, you're right, but you're talking about some of the biggest

stars in the world.

But you turn it on and then you turn it off.

My husband's that way.

He's like Mr.

Television Guy, and then he comes home and he's Mr.

Book guy.

It's okay.

You know what was required to land the plane.

You give the people what they need, not what you want.

Your conviction and your convenience don't live on the same block.

Pull up your big girl pants.

That's, look at you.

That's a so

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The world needs you.

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You just share with me some stuff outside that I'm like, what?

My husband's trying to get me to do creatine forever.

You just said like three reasons.

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That's content, though.

No, the passion you had with it, the reason why.

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That's true.

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Yes.

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What do you tell people who need to pull a story, their life, their personal story out from them?

Because again, I think people don't even realize that they have a story.

They think, oh, they're boring or nothing

or their story doesn't matter.

Because I think a lot of people don't think that they matter.

And so their stories are insignificant.

Well, even their, I know a lot of gladiators who know they matter.

They just don't know how to tell their story.

So those are the two things.

Either you don't think your story matters or you know your story matters.

You just don't know how to tell it.

So number one, and this is not like a shameless plug, but that's what I do because I know it's not easy.

Like for years, my friends asked me to show them how to do it.

And I was like, you, you got to know this.

And I realized people don't know.

So number one, I have a framework that helps people literally drop it in the framework where you just follow this two, 30 seconds, talk about something big that I did.

Two minutes, talk about a low point.

But here's the deal in the low point.

Speak to a low point in the form of a show me versus tell me.

It's called scooping.

That's one of my techniques, scooping the room.

People don't have your same scenario.

They don't have your experience, Jennifer.

They don't have my experience, but they felt the same way I felt.

So the mistake most people make, and I don't want to keep calling it a mistake, but where they miss moving a room is that you're telling me the details, you're not telling me how you felt.

You're telling me the details, but you're not telling me what was going on in your head.

Let me give you an example.

The day I realized that

I was being kicked out of college, I immediately felt like I was a failure.

I had ripples and ripples of shame running through my body.

I was embarrassed to leave the school and I was afraid of what my future was going to be.

Now, you weren't kicked out of college.

I hope I was kicked out of college.

You weren't kicked out of college, but you felt shame, you felt fear, and you did.

You see how you started nodding?

Yeah, the more I went into the emotions, the more you started nodding.

You know what you did?

I just realized you put a lot of adjectives in there for detail.

I scooped you.

You said the word shame.

You felt shame.

You felt like a failure.

You felt like this.

So you like basically compounded that emotion with lots of words to describe that emotion.

I showed you versus told you.

I showed you versus told you.

When I realized that I was being robbed, I realized that this consultant had literally betrayed me.

I was afraid of my own thoughts.

I could only see red.

The heat on the back of my neck would not go down.

The temperature was 100.

I never told you I was angry.

I showed you I was angry.

Most people are lazy.

They want to hurry up and get to the end.

They want to prove to you that they're super smart.

The best gift you can give an audience, if you're listening to my voice and you want to be impactful, is unpack your story, unpack your message.

Use more descriptive words that they can relate to.

Your speaking is not about you.

It has nothing, very little to do with you.

Speaking is about the audience.

You're never speaking to 100 people or 1,000 people.

You're speaking to one person and a thousand seats.

They're only thinking about what can I get out of this that can help my life.

When you come with that level of service, that level of I'm gonna transform you.

Keep going.

I'm gonna give you an opportunity.

One person, only go for one person, Jennifer.

Don't ever go for the whole audience.

Go for one person who happens to be sitting in a thousand seats.

Make it intimate.

We are missing intimacy.

And when you can give them intimacy, truly give them in to me, I see

intimacy.

When you can give them a bit of themselves back by listening to you intimacy in to me

i see through your words you become unforgettable

i would never be able to say that though i mean like you're so good at this we have to like let me talk to you about success for a moment right because obviously you're very successful doing what you do now what is your take Do you believe that people are successful because they have this desire in them?

Or do you believe it's just discipline?

Wow.

Let me make it personal because I...

That's what you do.

Yeah, I know me better than anybody else.

Right.

I had a burning desire that was so voracious, it burned down every challenge between me and success.

I was willing to burn the ships.

I was willing to kill away any behavior in me that didn't align with the woman I chose to to become.

I was willing to put on hold on ice and on pause any relationship that didn't honor the woman that I was midwifing out of me.

So desire was, yeah, it was non-negotiable.

It felt like the purpose on me was louder than the fear.

The purpose on me was louder than the challenges.

And I had a lot of challenges, a lot of humiliating moments, a lot of lonely moments.

I walked what felt like alone for years because it felt like no one got me, but I realized no one could get me at one time because I was still figuring out who I was becoming.

So I was always moving between seasons.

I was never somewhere.

I was never a person that stayed, this is what I'm going to be for the next 10 years.

I knew I was just going through a version of myself.

It was the...

I've never said it like this before, so it's almost hard to say.

There was years where I was, I had associates and I had family always, but I didn't land anywhere for a long time because I was moving and I wouldn't stop moving until I felt like,

okay,

okay.

All right.

And so it was, I think, desire, desire, calling, pulling, force.

And I can't say it's born in everybody.

Do you think that, is there any part of your personality that you think is misunderstood?

Oh, girl.

I think that I dream, I dream so big and so vast and fast that I don't know if it's misunderstood or that it's just irritating.

Right.

Like,

yeah,

I think that I could irritate and rub people the wrong way because I'm very grounded.

I'm always think about the plan, but the idea can be so far out that no one can see the how.

And here's what I say: don't interrupt my what because you don't know how.

Right.

And most people won't sign up for the what, the dream, until they're sure about the how because they're trying to protect other people's perception of them.

We're all in image protection, our brand protection.

And so I will sign up for the what.

I get fired up on the what.

And then I'll go, okay, now how are we going to get that done?

Right.

Most people want the what and the how together, really, really close.

And without the immediate how, they discount the what and then I irritate them.

And I'm okay with that.

because you you've like what is the one quality about you that you think besides the desire that is that makes you so successful I grind girl you grind I grind girl so that second part of that question you said determination I'm okay with my failures yeah discipline I'm and I'm okay with my failures I trust me in failure you got to hear this is the thing I trust me in the biggest breakdown and these days my breakdowns require two or three attorneys.

Baby.

And they seven figures.

Wow.

And I have some going on right now.

So

who was in the pudding?

You know, I literally, my company got like frauded and it's only about a $5 million cleanup.

And my attorney said, most companies your size don't recover from this.

He said, but something in me thinks you're not like most companies.

Really?

Yeah.

And it happened.

And he's, well and the effort to take my company public the consultant that took my company public was a fraud so everything that this person touched was negated so all of my audits all of my 250 000 audits all of my then i had to get re-audited to bring my books back then i had to go black on wall street so that i couldn't trade so i cleaned it up it just was just

just big and big and ugly and then the 88 investors they said go

file bankruptcy and you don't owe anyone.

But the 88 investors that had invested pre-public, they weren't people just going after money.

They were the people sitting in my audience.

They were the students on my campus.

And so I had to make a decision that was all about integrity.

It wasn't about convenience.

And I said, I'm not filing bankruptcy.

I'm paying everyone back, not only what they invested, but I'm paying them back their investment plus interest.

And it's taken me a long time and I'm not even done yet.

But I'm proud of my efforts.

I'm proud of my integrity.

I can walk with my head up high.

And what I'm clear on is my grind, my grind and my intention will get me.

Will Smith said it years ago.

He said, I stay on the treadmill longer than most.

When everyone else is sitting down, you remember that?

He did it years ago on the Tavis Miley show.

I remember that actually.

When everyone's sitting, when you take a nap, I'm still on the treadmill.

I'm okay with my failures.

And this is what I really would love to impart on you.

I trust myself in breakdown.

I trust myself when it gets messy.

There's a sign in my bathroom at home.

It says, I trust the next chapter of my life because I know the author.

And so I run and leap more than most, not because I can ensure that I'll fly.

It's because I'm sure that I'll get back up if I don't.

You ask me what's the difference?

It's that.

So I'll bet on me.

I'm not perfect, but I trust my imperfection.

And let me just tell you, that came from feeling isolated and ostracized.

That came from so much of feeling not enough.

Look at the industry.

I'm in an industry where there are very few women at my level and there are even fewer women of color.

So I had to walk in rooms and not look for confirmation that I was in the right room.

I had to bring it in with me.

And we've all been there.

And so I've done it enough to trust the cells in my body.

Not perfect, but I trust my imperfection.

Like, cause you started, I don't think we covered this last time, you started with the secret.

Many, how many years ago was this whole thing?

21, 22 years, 2006.

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So, what were you doing before The Secret?

Right.

How about that?

I call it the Secret Tsunami because I did have a whole life before.

I don't even know what it is.

Exactly.

So, I had co-authored two chicken soup for the the soul books with Jack Campdale.

I did.

I did.

And my focus was motivating the teen spirit.

So I have a teen foundation that teaches emotional literacy and emotional IQ to teens.

We're actually on our way to our annual emotional literacy summer camp right now.

Really?

Yes, I want to come back and ask for donations because we do it all for free.

All for free.

It's the only summer camp in the United States that teaches emotional literacy in the morning and then in the afternoon you go swimming and hiking and all that good stuff at a summer camp and we decided based on the climate of this year that we waive the entire fee and it costs 2200 for a kid to go through summer camp for a week residential and we i just go to my friends and say can you please help me donate for these kids so we can remove the barrier and kids of all different statures go and i teach emotional literacy and beside my son my son is the director of the camp really and that's what i was doing i've been doing that for 29 years i never stopped doing it when the secret came about but that's where we get the secret.

Like, how did that happen?

Someone heard me speak.

Really?

When you recognize the doors that you're speaking, Canon will open for you.

First of all, someone heard me speak at an event and invited me to be a co-author of Chicken Soup for the African American Soul.

That's how I met Jack Canfield.

And then Jack Canfield invited me to be a co-author.

And then he came to my book signing.

And then he heard me speak.

And while I'm speaking, I hear him telling Mark Victor Hansen, I feel like I'm listening to the next Dr.

Martin Luther King.

I had to act like I didn't even hear him because that just scared the becheevis out of me, girl.

I'm in my 30s.

My baby is like five.

And then he just started opening doors for me.

He said, people need to hear you.

My, my voice kicked open every door for me.

I wasn't even a good CEO for years.

I mean, I sucked at it, but my voice, the way I spoke, kept saving me.

Wow.

So if I, in these last 10 years, before I sit down and just chill with my hubby, I want to give away the superpower to as many people as possible.

That's why I'm doing this now.

No one knew me for being a speaker coach for years.

That's why I'm not out there as this big speaker coach because I wasn't doing it.

It was only because watching it transformed my life.

So because wait, so then you get this.

So he said, how did this?

So you got the chicken soup for the soul.

He invites me into this private council.

Right.

And then they're like, hey, come and be the part of the secret.

He invites me into this private council, exclusive council, where the first meeting was at his house.

Okay.

Jack Canfield's house.

Tell people who he is.

I don't know.

Just to get out of here.

Jack Canfield is the founder of Chicken Soup for the Soul.

He's in the Guinness Book of Worlds Records as being the only person to have like five or 10 books on the bestsellers list at the same time.

He's like, like, this dude is.

everything

like of to the personal development industry.

He just turned 80, he's relaxing now, he's retired.

But man, he opened up doors that people don't even know about.

So the first meeting is at his house.

The second meeting is at John Gray's house.

Men are from Mars, women are from Venus.

And here's Lil O me.

I'm one of three women, the only person of color.

Like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing here.

And no one knew me there.

And everyone's kind of mumbling, like, who is this chick?

Who is this chick?

And Jack Campfill said, you guys don't know her, but I think we all want to be as powerful as she is when we open our mouths.

And then Rhonda Byrne came and Rhonda Byrne is the director of The Secret.

He asked who in this club, exclusive club, wants to be in The Secret.

I didn't raise my hand.

Wook, how would you describe what The Secret is besides the book?

And a phenomenon.

And it's a huge phenomenon.

So

is it still very much a phenomenon?

I just had a 32-year-old come to me and say, I just watched The Secret.

You were 12.

You were 10 when The Secret was.

That's why I'm curious.

No, they're still watching.

It'll go another wave.

It's going to have another research.

It's going to have enough, especially with this generation.

For sure.

Like, they want to know, I got it all in my mind.

I can control my future.

Like, yeah, it's about to research.

I think so.

They put a little juice behind it and it'll just go.

Remember, The Secret didn't have a major marketing strategy.

It went viral because people had secret parties, secret parties.

They would gather their friends and put on the secret and have drinks and talk about it.

They had, it wasn't in our strategy.

That's how it kind of went viral.

That's how it did go viral.

And then Oprah said she was asked six times in one day when she was building her school in South Africa, have you seen the secret?

Have you seen the secret?

She said, I knew at the end of the day, I was going to do two things, have a glass of wine and watch the secret.

And this was before social media.

This was 21 years ago-ish.

And so, yeah,

it's been, it's phenomenal.

And so when the secret came out, I stood out again because I told my story.

Everyone else, a lot of people, are my dear friends, I love them.

They gave great content.

I told a story.

When I tell you, I look back at my career and I can't tell you I had this plan, sis.

I can't tell you I was that brilliant to say, I'm going to stand out on every stage.

When I go to Mine Valley, when I go here, when I go there, I couldn't have told you that.

I just did what I knew how to do.

And then I started seeing the track record.

I went, hold on.

And then my friends started saying, teach us how to do what you do.

And then I had nothing else to prove.

I had nothing else to worry about.

My career was built.

I needed, I wanted to no longer be LeBron James or Michael Jordan.

I really wanted to be Phil Jackson, their coach.

And so that's where I'm now.

So to answer your question, my stories were

scooping the audiences.

Everywhere I went, people saw themselves in me.

But I told the story in such a way that you can fit in my story.

So even like that can be learned.

It could be learned.

Yes, you can.

I'm telling you.

I'm not done with you.

I'm back.

I'm back.

I think it's really important, like I said, because of everyone's, how the world has changed, brands, everything, the brands that actually resonate and connect, just as people, same as people, have to figure out their connecting point, their story, their storytelling.

Like, I think the storytelling skill is probably one of the most important skills you can get right now.

When you learn how to walk down your mountain and grab your people and go back up, scoop, scoop, baby, scoop.

Could I scoop, baby, scoop?

But you were obviously very

like talented.

I mean, back then, like you were noticed.

That's how your whole career became.

It was an unconscious competence.

Right.

So like that, that is, everyone has a gift.

This is your gift.

And now you're sharing your gift.

But did you ever think back then that the secret, like that that would have been like this, this, I guess, juggernaut that's now made you into this person?

No, I didn't think I would make it off the editing floor.

How many people were in it?

Can you?

54 people were interviewed and 24 people made it in?

24.

24.

Did everybody have their own specialty or how was it?

I don't remember.

They just interviewed everyone.

I didn't even know what the secret was.

Can I tell you a secret?

I don't even know the secret either.

I didn't know what the secret was.

It was the law of attraction.

Well, yeah.

And I was, I was raised Baptist.

We didn't talk about the law of attraction.

We talked about go to church, pray, and go home.

Like there was no law of attraction discussed in my house.

What made me stand out again was my storytelling.

And so when I saw the movie put together, that was the first time I understood what they were talking about.

I just answered the questions.

That's all I did.

I expected to be on the editing room floor.

I'm in a conversation with all of these prolific thought leaders.

I wasn't a thought leader.

I was a single mom desperately wanting to transform her life.

I was hungry and I was open and I was willing.

Everything else was about my impact.

So not only did I make it to the 24, but then there was like a

four, standout six.

You can look back and see.

And those of us began to be asked to be interviewed everywhere.

A lot of people got interviewed, but then I kept expecting my phone to stop ringing.

I was like, I'm going to ride this to the wheels fall off.

I'm getting called for keynotes everywhere.

And I just expected, oh, it'll be a year.

Then a year was three years.

Then three years was five years.

And I kid you not, my phone didn't stop ringing till probably 18 years later.

It slowed down.

It never stopped.

It slowed down 18 years later.

But let me tell you why, because every stage I got on, I made it ring three more times.

So the stages began to make it ring.

It wasn't ringing anymore from the secret.

It was ringing from the stage.

It was more, it was basically, it was like a ripple effect.

It was a ripple that never stopped rippling.

Yeah, it never stopped rippling.

So when my students would ask me, teach us how to sell ourselves on stage, I'm like, I don't know.

I would just answer the phone.

Be really great.

Be so riveting.

So what I, the gift I can give you is show you how to be riveting so the phone will naturally ring.

So you don't pursue and hunt.

You become a magnet.

Right.

How do we become a magnet?

You become a magnet by teaching someone something new while inspiring them to stand on their tippy toes while allowing them to see a piece of themselves in you.

Give me an example.

I love it.

This is really all for her, you guys.

Like, I don't know.

I hope you're getting something.

This is not even going to be a podcast.

This is going to be my own podcast.

I'm going to listen to this in the bathroom when I put my makeup on.

put my eyelashes on listen to this piece so oh my god i know so you gotta go but i know we're so violating this but this is delicious

so teach people something new yep that's number one you got that that's content yep right inspire them so inspire looks like this it is your birthright to love your body It's your birthright to land in a peace of mind.

It's your birthright to put the best things in your body and nothing else that's your birthright you see yes i see good job

like you look at me like this i'm already married

oh my god all i did all i did like take whatever content and then just piece that together yeah but again i keep on i have like a broken record you're just really good at it period i am and you can get really good at it too and so could you anybody can i think i think i think the truth is like you said because it's such an important skill set even if we can move the needle one or two points go from a three to a four yeah it's better than zero right go from a zero to a one yeah i i think that's a hundred percent go from not being afraid to be asked to speak to being okay that's it yeah go from not having an anxiety attack right behind stage right before you go or or or be afraid to be seen on camera how many people and if this is you comment you know you you got a message in your belly and yet no one can hear it i i must say with all due respect i love you but shame on you your message once you've lived through your story it's no longer yours every lived through story that you have is belongs to us we need it you've already lived through it you've already gotten stronger you've already gotten more confident because it you already know who you are now we need it why because we might be going through that very thing next week that's how about that

How about that?

Raise the roof.

Raise the bar.

Wow.

I love it.

I love you.

Okay, Lisa, this is way.

I said 20 minutes.

It's been like, God knows how long.

Okay.

I love you.

Yeah.

I think you're just fantastic.

And guys, check out Lisa Nichols for more tips and tricks on how to be the best version of you.

And I'm trying to get you to come and spend three days with me.

Come and spend three days with me.

Yes, me or everybody else.

Yeah, like come.

Like, this is what I do now.

Like, I shifted my entire platform to just teach speakers or individuals i'm going to be more impactful and step on my campus like that's all i do and i have the best coaches and what i love is that when you see my speaker advocate coaches now you'll see 17 people and it's not me then it becomes real i love that all right thanks lisa i love you girl love you too

bye everybody