Episode 323: Radhi Devlukia-Shetty: Ayurvedic Health Practices To Discover Your Best + Boldest Self

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I'm really happy to have you because

we have met very briefly through at Lisa's house.

You didn't even probably, like I said, you probably didn't remember because you were sitting at the movie theater or whatever it was.

And I ran in, ran out, and was like, hey, I whatever.

But this is like, you've, you already, in the 10 minutes I've been speaking to you, live up to your reputation.

You're so lovely.

So are you.

Oh, well, thank you.

Yeah, I'm so grateful to be here.

Oh, I'm grateful for having you, really.

And you, I can't believe how much you and your husband look alike.

It is so crazy to me.

You know, the first, I feel like I walked in and three minutes and you're like, I just need to tell you, you look, you and your husband look identical.

It's like unbelievable.

Like, I've never seen two people look that similar.

It's so funny.

We get that so much.

I always wonder, I'm like, one day I should just shave my head off, hair off, and see the resemblance.

I actually, I was saying to you, I don't really see it.

I think it's because I see our features so much and I see the differences in them.

so i i recognize the eyes part of it yeah well that's very by the way not everybody it's iron skin color as well yeah it's a it's a rare combination so i think people end up a really rare color it's a beautiful combination and like i did you guys okay i have a question i want to go back from an origin story point point of view for one second we're not even i wasn't even going to ask you about this but we might as well like a how long did you guys even know each other when you guys met because like did you guys automatically gravitate to each other because of the way you guys look Because they say, like, there's all this research that says couples end up like resembling each other.

Yeah, they do.

Honestly, I met him actually.

The first time I ever interacted with him or even saw him was when he was training to be a monk.

And so he was really in robes.

He had his head shaved.

He looked really different.

Not really different, but quite different to how he looks now.

Okay.

I thought he was cool, but I really wasn't looking at him in that way because he was robed up and it wasn't.

He was like a monk.

Yeah, it wasn't that kind of environment.

And so, yes, I.

What year was was that, though?

That must have been.

Well, that was before, that was like 2009, I'm going to say, 2009, 2008, maybe.

Oh, wow.

Such a long time.

Yeah, it was a while ago.

And so it was very brief.

It was almost just like, this is this person, this is this person.

Hello.

And that was basically it.

Who introduced you?

My mom.

My mom, okay.

Yeah, my mum had actually met him at the temple that he was part of when he was doing his training.

And then

I happened to be at the temple.

My mom was like, this is the person that showed me around the first time I met.

I was like, hi, how are you?

Hi, how are you?

That was literally the interaction that we had.

And so, when I first met him, I thought he was very cool.

I'd had him speak.

I thought he was an incredible speaker, and he really helped me through the classes I went to that he was teaching understand my own spiritual path better.

So, I really admired him for that.

He was doing that back then, yeah.

He's been doing it for years, just in different settings.

He had like three people in the class when I was going to his,

yeah.

So, you met him as kind of like a student, yes.

Oh, wow, I didn't know that!

Yeah, I did, and so so met him then very different situation and yeah i wouldn't say i was like oh my gosh i'm attracted to him in that way it was more wow this is really cool that this guy has left uni left college and chosen to take this path i was intrigued yeah yeah and then what happened how did you go on a first date then so fast forward a good few years he was training to be a monk when i met him he became a monk he was a monk for a few years and then i knew when i started interacting with the temple that he was training at he was between India and this temple so he would go away for ages but I was part of his classes when he came back to London so when he would teach I would be part of the students that were in his class and I was also really good friends with his sister so then when he left being a monk which I think was around 2013 or was it 14 I'm really bad with them I could check the book yeah yeah exactly

when he left I mean I was already really good friends with his sister me and him started speaking and it was a really easy connection because we both had the same foundations that we wanted.

I know I wanted someone who was deeply spiritual or at least wanting that path.

And at that time, that was the only thing that was really important to me because I was really trying to invest into it.

And luckily, neither of us were psycho.

So we all both ended up getting gang on.

And you look exactly the same.

And apparently you look exactly the same.

Did you notice back then that you guys, no one told you even back then, you guys are identical to me?

The only thing that really stood out was obviously our eyes.

But at the time, he also was like shaved, fully shaved.

Yes, I know.

and so the whole thing didn't even like

wow.

So, you guys have been together, you guys are both, you're young, you're not an old person, so you've been no, no, so you've been with them for almost like half of your life, basically.

At least, yes, like nearly 10 years, you've been married for 10 years, no, together, like we were started dating around that time, so we've been together.

We've been married for five years, no, we've been married for five, 2016.

We're married for seven years, seven years, been together for 10 years, yes.

Wow, so you guys, you have been with each other through the whole evolution, even of his path.

Yeah.

Which is amazing.

Yeah, I met him way before and before he started any of this.

And then, yeah, we started dating when he just, you know, he'd finished being at the temple and he wasn't a monk anymore.

And so he was starting from scratch, basically.

Yeah.

This is amazing.

What I love about, like, I mean, I know nothing about you as a couple, of course, but like from what you see, it seems that you guys are perfectly matched.

I mean, everyone always, I mean, not because you guys just look alike, but your energy.

But what I love is that whenever I hear about people who were together before they had great success and they still are together, it's like such a nice thing.

Yeah.

Because I never, you don't, in LA, especially, you don't see that, right?

Yeah.

Like people don't have loyalty.

They kind of get ahead of, like, they get a big head.

They think that they go on to bigger, better both on both sides, right?

Yeah, it's been easy for me, honestly, because Jay has has been, had the same intention, the same intent, like he's been the same person, even though externally it probably looks like it's changed a lot in terms of the person he is behind closed doors he has literally been the same person with the same intention since i met him and so there hasn't really been this i've had to adapt externally to our living environment and and maybe

you know the time that we potentially spend together because of timings and the way he has to travel but in terms of quality and the type of person that he is, it's really stayed the same.

And he's had the same desires from the moment I met him.

and so it hasn't been difficult in that sense because I haven't had to see a shift in character that's and I think that makes a huge difference it's like even if your externals change to have someone who's the same character with you throughout the time of course we change in terms of what we like what we don't like the things we want to do I've changed so much as a person since he's met me so I feel bad for him because I've changed so much well I want to ask you about that because like if that was always his path and goal, like, because you were a dietitian in a hospital, right?

Yeah.

And so that's a very different life than you are, right?

Than you are now.

So, like, you have, you're into all this wellness and you're obviously a chef.

Oh, by the way, you're a vegan chef.

I'm a vegan chef, yeah.

That means you eat no meat ever, right?

Okay, because I thought I saw something.

I could have misunderstood it.

But so you're a vegan chef, you're into wellness, you meditate all the time, all these things.

And now you have this like huge platform.

What?

And this was never really your plan.

So was it like, was it because like you were saying, you were on the path with Jay and so it kind of like naturally became yours or how did you kind of I would say I definitely struggled at the beginning in terms yeah, so I never ever in my life even when I used to see people on TV or used to see things like that It was never a desire that I had of oh I want to be that I would appreciate it Yeah, and I'd see it as an art form or I'd see it as it would never was never something in my mind that was like, oh, I want to do this or was attainable.

Yeah.

And so I was really happy.

I always wanted to work with children.

And so I was training to be a pediatric dietitian.

That was my goal and my dream.

I actually just started working when we then ended up having to move to New York for Jay's work.

And so it was a big adjustment for me because I'd been studying for six years.

And then I worked for about a couple of months.

And then to do the job that I always wanted to do.

And then I'm like, oh, I have to start all over because I can't, I couldn't work when I was in New York.

And I

even the dietetic degree I had, I would have had to do a whole other studying process to actually do something in the U.S.

Was it a different yeah, there's like different qualifications you have to do in the US compared to the UK?

I wonder what they are.

It's not Canadian, I know it may have been I think in Canada and the UK are very similar, yeah, but the US is a bit different.

And so, I kind of got to New York and I was like, oh my gosh, what do I do?

And I went through a whole process there of figuring out what I wanted to do.

But I will say that when it came to the online platform and growing that, it was honestly, and I always say this openly, it was definitely people just wanted to know who Jay was married to.

And so, what would happen is I actually had a private account to start off with, and it was called Veggie Vegan Veda.

I was just sharing recipes that I was making because I had a lot of time and I loved cooking anyway.

And so, my friends would be like, How did you make this?

Or how did you make that?

And so, I decided to make it a platform where I was just sharing recipes and knowledge.

It was really very rarely me.

It was a lot to do with just food.

Yeah.

And then, when I started getting all these requests, and I guess I went through a phase where I was like, either, well, I went through the thought process of either I can figure out what I want to share with people and make it something that hopefully will benefit them, open up my page, because it's obviously coming to me.

And so if people are coming to me, I need to decide what I'm giving them versus them coming to me and just it being a platform where I'm just sharing me and Jay, which I try not to do because that's something that I feel is very personal to us.

And so I didn't want it to become like a me and Jay fan page.

I don't, I didn't want to do that in any way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I just started sharing everything I was learning.

And at that point of time, I was going through my own growth phase of figuring out what the hell am I going to do.

So I was studying, I was going to yoga teacher training.

I was figuring myself out.

And so I just started pouring everything I was learning and then pouring it online.

And so then slowly, I guess, things started to go.

But naturally, I think it's just, I don't hide from the fact that it was to do with obviously people just wanting to find out more about Jay.

Yeah, I like the opportunity.

But I think it is your like honesty and earnestness that our people are attracted to.

Thank you.

No, I I really think that it is like, so like that is, of course, like how things happen.

But you've used it in such a positive way, which I think is nice.

And first of all, I got to tell you, I'm not even a vegan, but I remember years back when I was like going through some stuff of yours that I was like looking at your recipes years

when it was just recipes.

Yeah, and I was because my husband doesn't eat meat, whatever.

And I remember like, it was some of your recipes.

And you're like a really good cook or chef.

Like, did you go to school for that?

Or does that just naturally?

So I did my nutrition and dietetics degree.

And then after that, well, I always used to love learning from my mom.

My mom is an incredible cook.

Like, she

everything from we I was born vegetarian and then I were born vegetarian.

Yeah, I was born vegetarian and then I turned vegan about 10 years ago.

And my mom has taken everything from our gluten-free phases to being vegan to making amazing, like there was nothing that I couldn't eat or felt like I wasn't able to eat because my mom would make a different version of it.

Really?

Yeah, she was so good.

And we had fresh meals on the table every single day, even though she worked full-time.

She would experiment with foods from wherever we traveled to.

She would bring it into the kitchen.

And I loved eating her food, but then also just loved learning it because it was such a love language of hers.

And I think it's, it's definitely poured into me, whereas food is my love language to other people.

What?

So do you, do you still cook like that?

Like, like all the time?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, all the time.

I love cooking.

And I think when I actually, to be honest, when I made my book that I recently did, it was a mixture of I love doing it, but at the same time, it felt like it drained a lot of the creative energy out of me where food then became work and it wasn't my joy.

And so I actually felt like I had a bit of PTSD after creating that cookbook because I was like, wow, I've fallen out of love with even doing something that was so important to me.

It was the place where I would release emotion.

The kitchen was the place where I would pour love into.

And so I had to take a big gap of not cooking.

And I would be like, Jay, I really cannot cook.

And like, I need, I need a break and I'm going to have to not do anything.

And if I do, it's gonna have to be really basic stuff because I have no desire to do it anymore.

Yeah.

And then I've slowly picked up the love back for it again, thank God.

But yeah, I do, I do try and cook, I mean, as much and whenever I can.

You know what I find interesting that you say that?

Because I do believe there's something to be said about there's like this, like, of course, the mantras are this idea that turning your passion into what you do for a living.

And I found, you know, back in my whole, I guess, my background and what I do, I started off with like a lot of fitness stuff because I loved fitness so much.

And because of that, I had companies in fitness.

I wrote books in fitness.

And I became so burnt out from fitness because I was writing about it all the time and doing videos about it all the time.

And like, it became like my passion actually became like my, like the thing that I wanted to do the least amount.

And it's scary when that happens.

Yeah.

And I think it does.

I think that's like, you just get fatigued on something and burnt out.

Like, I want, like, I don't know, maybe you can even answer this, but like, where is like the happy medium?

Between the two.

Between the two.

I don't know.

I was trying to think that too, because I was really excited.

You know, I've learned so much through this book that I was really excited to go to think about my next book.

Yeah.

But the thing that's scaring me is the lack of love that will come from it.

Like, my mom has never made cooking into her.

into a business.

It's always been to feed us, to feed other people.

There's almost like an innocence that is kept when you keep something to just serving other people or something you're utilizing to make other people happy.

And then when you make, and I think it really is intention.

So when I keep remembering and reminding myself that everything that is in this book is something I've either learned from other people that I feel so grateful to learn and want to pass on to other people, or it's food that's made me so happy and has

changed me and my body so much that I see it as a gift and I'm passing it on as a gift.

And so I try to remind myself of that rather than thinking of it as work or as business or as anything to do with money.

I'm trying to see it as if I love something so much and it's changed my life so much, it would be a dishonor to that to not share it and pass it on to other people.

Right, right.

And so reminding myself of that helps me to keep falling back in love with it.

Right, right.

And so I do think it's more to do with intention.

As soon as your intention changes with something, which for me, I really despise numbers, I don't like thinking about sales and I don't like thinking about the numbers of views.

And I don't like that.

And as soon as I end up changing my mindset and fixating on that, it's, it drains the love out of it.

Right.

No.

And so, yeah.

How do you able to do that though?

Because when you, like, I mean, again, I'm asking more out of curiosity for myself because I feel you're right.

When you add, I think when you, when you put a number to something that, that you're quantifying what, like, for example, like when you fit the fitness fields or like Instagram or whatever, automatically it becomes a business, right?

Because then you're looking at book sales.

Book sales.

I know my publisher is always like, we've got this many numbers.

We need to hit this.

And I'm like, I'm trying my best, but it's just stressing me out.

I know, exactly.

And then I think something happens within like the frequency or the energy where

it actually makes it worse.

It does.

You know, it does.

It's opposed to just like doing something because you like to do it and like let things like let the chips fall where they may.

Yeah, and let it flow.

Right.

I think there is a balance.

And honestly, I wish I had the answer, but I don't because I feel like I'm still so baby and brand new in this world.

I still feel that way.

Yeah, I really do.

Because if I'm honest, like I was doing every

stuff only really shifted, I'd say into a business format or even thinking about it as business.

Like maybe eight months ago when I got my first assistant and I only got my social, the girl that helps me with social media three months ago.

And so I was doing everything myself when I wanted with no strategy, no idea of what I was posting the next day.

Everything was like off a whim and there was no plan in place at all.

And so the only thing that really got me.

great yeah well yeah well great and also

oh yeah but also

only really put me into gear when I started writing a book and I was like well if I really want to sell this and I want I poured two and a half of my like life two and a half years of my life into this book and that's how long a cookbook takes the process is so long a cookbook takes two and a half years yeah from from starting to sorry from starting to write to the point of release yeah yeah because regular books take about two two years, I guess, two, a year and a half.

Yeah, exactly.

A long time.

But I guess with the recipes, you got to figure out the proportions for everybody.

Or you have to write all the recipes, which took me months.

Did you write all the recipes?

I wrote all the recipes.

I was in my kitchen in LA and mostly in London with my mum for about five months non-stop.

I was testing and writing the recipes.

I wrote over 190 recipes.

Really?

And I was like to my publishers, can't I put all of them in this book?

And they were like, absolutely not.

So I had to cut them down, which was like literally tearing away parts of me when i had to decide which ones i had got to keep in this book how many recipes are in the book about 130.

oh wow so 60 yeah 60 that's a lot of recipes though i know well i had to push for that it was meant to be 100 i was like please don't do that to me i have a few more that's a lot of recipes

and like they your mom helped you like create yeah my mom helped my mom's incredible with taste and flavor so i would always test the recipes she'd try them my dad would try them they were basically my free testers that's what they were they would just test all my recipes and then we'd refine them and then it has to go to an actual official external tester so you have to send all your recipes to a tester to test them before you even put it into the book then you have someone that helps you write the content in the right way write out the method write out i've weaved a lot of wellness throughout the book as well so it's not just recipes there's a whole wellness guide that's weaved throughout the different categories there's everything from gosh like my morning routine to how to understand and use spices to heal your body to i love all that stuff yeah like

turmeric and all the other stuff.

Yes, exactly.

There's so many health benefits to all of these spices.

Well, growing up Indian, I had a bit of a benefit or advantage because spices were just part of our DNA and our tradition.

Every single day would be...

food would be filled with spices but my mom also used to use them to heal us so whenever i would have a cough or cold she would use this spice called ujwain which is incredible it helps to take out all the phlegm and all the gunk that's you know what's it called it's called ujwain

oh my gosh yeah yeah i'll send it to you

yeah i will where do you get that you can get it on amazon you can get it on um it's a it's more of an indian spice but you can get it everywhere now and it's incredible you just boil it in hot water with ginger and with lemon and it's you know a lot of cough medicines they suppress our our you know the symptoms yeah whereas ujwain is an expellent and so what it does is it kind of brings everything up and out of your body and it's incredible helps to relieve temperature like if you get a temperature it helps to get out all the phlegm and the gunk that accumulates when you've got congestion.

You should do a book on this.

I think this is a good thing.

I really want to.

So my next year is going to be spent studying because I really, I've realized that you can, you go through periods.

I feel I go through periods where I'm learning and then I'm sharing and then I'm learning and then I'm sharing.

And I find it hard to do both at the same time.

But I got to the end of this book and I was like, you know, I feel like I'm running really low on inspiration, on creativity and on information.

And I feel like when you get to that point, you know you have to become a student again.

Yeah.

And so I'm so excited because this next year, as much as I am going to focus on sharing the book with people, I want it to be my year of learning and exploring and expanding again because I really miss doing that.

And I think when you stop being a student, you really feel a lack in your life.

I think that is so true.

You stop growing, right?

Yeah, that's how I feel.

It's very static.

It's a very stagnant feeling.

So that's one spice.

By the way, what would I, what could I, can you cook with that spice?

Oh, yeah,

would you like to?

So with all spices, I'm like obsessed with this technology.

Okay, great.

Yeah.

So with all spices, you should, I don't know whether people know this but when you add heat to it so when you either uh dry roast or ideally cook it in fat it actually releases the aromatic so aromatic properties and also the healing properties of the spice become more available and so i recommend with all spices you either dry toast them or if you're using them in curries or you can grind them up and use powders in your smoothies like cardamom cardamom is this amazing sweet spice yeah there's so many incredible benefits and i use them inside my smoothies i'll put them into desserts but i'll also put them into curries.

And so you can either, I recommend heating spices and then using them, but a lot of them can just be used in hot milk or hot water.

So then how would you use the card?

Okay, so if I were to put that in a smoothie, it's going to cold, it cold ingredients.

Yeah.

So how would you warm it?

So ideally.

How would you warm it?

So what you could do is you could dry roast the whole spice.

Well, so you're not buying it.

Sorry, you're not buying it like in a powder.

In a powder.

So you can't have a problem.

But the thing is with spices, as soon as you grind up a spice from its whole form, it starts to lose its aromatic qualities and it starts to diminish its, you know, it's the same as when

the potency.

That's the word I'm looking for.

As soon as you grind that up, it's like as soon as you pick a fresh, you know, herb or a basil leaf or something.

If you pick that, you see it's away from its source.

And so it starts to wilt.

And so whole spices are the same as soon as it starts to interact with...

air and with the qualities around, you know, if it's the environment bottle, yeah, it's going start diminishing in quality.

So, where would I buy that?

Like, where would I buy like a full?

Now, what's amazing is Amazon has incredible organic spices.

Whole Foods has incredible whole spices.

In its full form?

Yeah, in its full form.

On Amazon, I can buy that.

Oh, yeah.

Seriously?

Yeah.

Otherwise, Indian shops.

If all else fails, Indian shops have all the spices you possibly need.

In LA, can you tell me which one to go to?

Oh, yeah, there's

Indian Sweets and Spices, it's called, and there's like

them close to here, honestly.

Yeah, there's quite a few.

Okay, because, okay, so what do you think?

Now I'm literally love all this.

That is great.

Okay, like turmeric, right?

Because I put it on like my chicken, yes, and I put it with olive oil and all these other things because of the fat thing that you were mentioning because it helps with the absorption and I guess getting the ingredients to into, I don't know, all that stuff that you just said.

So if I were just to put turmeric into a shape with from a bottle, it's not going to be effective, right?

Or I should just buy like a turmeric root, probably.

Yeah, turmeric root is incredible.

Yeah, it's amazing.

It's very messy.

That's what I used to do.

so messy the color gets everywhere everywhere i had them i had it all over my clothes all over the kitchen it's not that it's not gonna help it's that it's gonna be of lower potency so i always say that like it's it's about the type of the quality right there's always gonna be a spectrum of quality of the ingredients that you get yeah and so Yeah, I think you have to pick your, what's the word?

You have to pick your battles.

Like, yeah, which I always think about this, like, there's a 70-30, or you could even live by an 80-20 rule, or if you can, a 90-10 rule, where you decide this proportion of the time I'm gonna try my best to get this.

These are the ingredients I'm gonna get best quality.

And then these are the ingredients that, you know, it's too difficult and I'm not gonna worry too much about it.

Right.

Cause you can't get everything perfect and you can't get everything in the best quality.

It's just too difficult.

It's impossible.

I mean, okay, give me one more spice that has, like, tell me another one.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

So the spices I have every single morning without fail, there's this Ayurvedic trio.

It's like the queen of all spice blends.

It's called CCF.

So it's coriander, cumin and fennel okay so you get the whole seeds of coriander whole seeds of cumin and whole seeds of fennel seeds you can mix them all it's equal batches you do like one part of each so you can make up a whole batch of one cup of each thing and mix it up put it in a jar i take a tablespoon of it every morning put it into a pan with hot water and i'll boil it and i drink that tea in the morning every single day it is incredible to one ignite your digestive juices and fires to help detox your different organs like your livers your your kidney and also if you think about it in the morning your body has accumulated eight eight hours you've been sleeping is when your body detoxes and so all these toxins are actually kind of just going around your body ready to be released so if you don't end up releasing them through your you know go ahead poop and we yeah you're gonna and you they're also still there in your bloodstream so this CCF blend is a really subtle spice blend that helps to detox your body release the toxins out and get you started for the rest of your day it's incredible okay first of all i'm gonna i'm gonna start using this

This is actually very practical.

So great.

Actionable things people can do.

And for people who get acid reflux or, you know, get a lot of heat that accumulates in your body, fennel seeds and coriander seeds are so cooling.

So they help to also reduce inflammation.

We've all got so much inflammation in

the environment, the food that we eat.

And so these spices help to reduce the inflammation in the body, too.

And you kind of grew up like this, so you don't know any different.

Well, I grew up and I took it for like, took it for granted.

And I wasn't taught it in that way.

I just knew my mom makes me this when I'm unwell.

My mom does this for me when I have a cough or a cold.

But when I studied Ayurveda is when I realized, wow, like my spice box, and I can honestly say this, I use my spice box as my medicine box.

I believe it's incredible for prevention.

I think it's incredible for curing different diseases that you have in the body.

But see it as your armor.

Like, that's how I see it.

If I know I'm getting spices in throughout the day, I feel protected, just like when you go out and you're wearing your coats and your jackets and stuff.

Spices are going to be that for you.

So, wait, so the one that you just said, that recipe for in the morning ccf is called how is it you know because what i've been doing is i just drink room temperature water and i squeeze a lemon in there as a way to detox my in the morning but it's is that what you're talking about so much more effective in terms of i'd i'd say so because the spices are just so potent

yeah so potent and you'll feel it i remember i told um my friend about this who used to get who gets a lot of acid reflux when she was pregnant and she was just really struggling to even keep food down she started drinking the she started drinking this tea but she would soak it in water overnight and then she'd drink it because she didn't want to have it hot every day yeah and she said it made i mean i've had so many people tell me it's made a difference but that for me i was really happy for her because she was pregnant she was feeling uncomfortable but that ccf drink it just really changed so much for her wait is that is that recipe in the book it is in the book oh my gosh why didn't i don't have a book no i don't have a book either

no i would have given you

i would actually buy this book because no i'm serious because i love that kind of stuff because it's actually the problem i find with wellness a lot of time well and health whatever there's so many different euphemisms we can use there's too many yeah but it's the same thing that people say over and over again you know do the

cold plunge do the sauna you know eat this way exercise that way when the truth is there's so that's a plethora of things to do and modalities that work for you that might not work for me there's so much out there and it's really becomes like a trial and error well that's what it should be yeah i think about that with that's why i fell in love with the with ayurveda because it is one it's so old It's like over 5,000 years old It's the most ancient health science to exist But what I loved most about it is that it is all to do with the individual Yeah, but that takes work so Instead and that's what my my I really and I'm not just trying to plug my book But that's what I've shared so so much of in my book is don't use these recipes as I've written them use them as your body needs them.

Yeah.

So through my book, I want you to learn how to intuitively listen to your body, how to understand what this food does for your body so you know which spices your body needs.

We've gotten so used to putting our health into other people's hands and that scares me so much for the world because we're saying that when this Instagram person tells me this workout works for them, it's going to work for me.

And even though I'm getting exhausted after doing it, even though my body is not responding to, I'm going to keep doing it because that person told me it's good.

And this food that this person's eating that they said has given them X amount of weight loss and has done this for them.

I'm going to do it because that's what I'm trying to achieve in my body without realizing that my body is completely different and it may not have the same effect.

And so I think what we really need to do is strip everything back and start listening to our body from a point of view of, let me see every single time I eat this ingredient, how does it affect?

So it is work.

Like it's easier to believe that this person is going to solve my issue.

And I also say it's a form of laziness in a way, but not in a negative way, but like...

It's because that's what we're told to do.

Right.

And like, and it's like an info.

People, my friend says it's like info-obesity in a way.

There's too much information.

Oh my gosh, yes, it's a great word.

It's a great word because there's so much information.

It's overloaded.

It's so overwhelming.

It's so overwhelming.

And you get very confused, like who to listen to, what to listen to.

So what happens, I'm sure you can relate, you end up doing like a smorgasborg of a bunch of things.

Always.

Right.

I did that with workouts.

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

My trainer would always be like, you need to stop doing this.

I was doing weights in the morning, Pilates at night, boxing the next day, this the next day.

I was like, I have to do it all.

And that's what's going to make me feel good.

Exactly.

And I was overstraining overstraining my body and I was not listening to what my body actually needed.

Yeah.

And you probably got a dream off fatigue because I did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I really did.

But I honestly think that, and it is that we have this savior complex of like, we want other people to save us.

And it's not our fault.

It's because we're told whenever you feel sick, go to a doctor.

Not saying not to go to a doctor.

I'm just saying we're told you sogging anything, go to a doctor.

Then you listen to what the doctor says, you follow that.

If you go online, you're told, do this, you know, for this and do this for this.

Totally.

And what we're missing is the step of saying, do this, try it for a week, see how your body responds.

Yeah.

Do this for a month.

It's going to be a slow process.

You may not see the results straight away, but try it out.

See how your body responds to it.

Totally.

And so that's really like, if I think about what I poured into this book, it was understanding how spices can heal your body and understand your body and the food you're eating and how they relate to each other.

So you feel empowered and you understand that I can heal my body in many ways myself.

Yeah.

And I think if hopefully we can start shifting people into that mentality, it's going to change so much.

I agree.

Do you take supplements then?

Like actual supplements?

I do.

I do.

But honestly, I don't take that many because I get my blood work done regularly to find out what I'm deficient in.

Right.

How often do you get your blood work done?

Like every six months.

I think the body changes so much.

Exactly.

And so I really recommend doing it if you can.

Who do you like?

What kind of person?

Do you go to a regular doctor?

I go to, I actually start going to Next Health here.

Yeah, Next Health is my, that's my friend.

Oh, yeah, he's so lovely.

Yes, Darshan.

Yeah, Dar Darshan.

So we started.

Oh, he's also, he's also Indian, right?

Like, yes, he's in the health.

He is, yes.

So we started going to Next Health.

So we'll get my tests done.

The only thing I've been told that I'm deficient in is vitamin D, which is really normal for especially people with my skin color.

It's like...

But they say that with everybody.

Like, I think everybody's deficient.

The quality of the vitamin D we get is not great.

So I just started taking shots, and that's been really helping me.

Oh, shot, not the supplement.

No, I found that my, my, you know, my levels were so low.

I prefer liquid forms of most supplements I think they absorb far better way better and also the capsule you don't know what the capsule is made capsules also upset my stomach sometimes and so I find that whenever it's the cellulose capsules or if I especially have an empty stomach it makes me feel really vomy and I think I've heard a lot of people say that a lot of people so I prefer getting the shots I found that was the most and again I had to see I would be taking vitamin D supplements I'd be like I'm still feeling so exhausted I'm waking up after eight hours of sleep and I'm feeling so tired yeah and I'm not my mood's all over the place like I wasn't feeling good so I had to recognize that I've been taking these supplements for three months they don't seem to be making a difference yeah so I need to figure out an alternate route of you know I need to find another thing to try out and so vitamin D is really the only proper supplement I take and then I take ashwagandha for stress and yes and energy levels but in a supplement form or in another in a powder form oh powder I prefer powder than I do I generally if I can avoid capsules I usually do yeah no this is a really good point I'm gonna tell you why I think this this is great that people don't talk about because capsules also may not digest, you may not like, it may not go through your system and then you, sorry, poop it out and not even know that.

But if you're in a liquid form or a powder form, it does.

It's a chance of it absorbing.

It does.

It absorbs more.

But people don't know that.

And so when they're thinking, well, does, oh, I'm taking this, I don't feel a difference.

It might be because it's just going right through your body.

And it really depends on your...

digestion as well.

So if your digestion is really strong, you'll probably be able to digest that capsule and you'll be be able, you'll be fine with it.

But for me, I know when my immune system is low, my digestion is probably quite weak.

So I try to, I personally think if you are able to get a variety of colors of fruits and vegetables and lentils and pulses, everything nature provides you with on your plate on a daily basis throughout the meals that you're having, it's quite likely that you are getting a lot of the nutrients that you already need.

But if you are noticing on your blood work that you're not, then you probably need supplementation.

I I don't necessarily think we need to continuously have supplementation if you feel healthy, you feel well.

Like, listen to your body, you don't need to be overloading it with things unnecessarily.

Unless you're deficient in it, yeah.

But this goes back to the whole info-obesity thing, right?

Because we have so much information.

And let's say this influencer is like, oh, this has been the best thing in the world.

And then the other thing is that.

I mean, I share so many supplements and

I do do partnerships with a lot of brands that I have tried or have liked.

And I think for me, every time I think about who I partner with, I either have to to have tried them out or I need to think of, is this going to benefit someone?

Because it is going to in some way.

If someone may, like, I love AG greens, like AG1, the AG1, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I really do appreciate them.

I've, I used to have them for months, but I also change my supplements a lot because I have them for a short period of time or I'll have them for three months.

And then I realize maybe my body's not responding as well anymore.

Yeah.

But it, but it was great for the time I needed it.

And then I've had ritual supplements before.

Did you like the ritual one?

Ritual, actually, I found that some of the coating of, because they have the tablets.

If I had it on an empty stomach, it would upset my stomach.

If I had it with food or with my smoothie, I would be fine.

And if I had the peppermint one, I'd be okay.

But if I had the lemon one, I wouldn't.

So it was just different, a different diet.

It depends when you're doing it.

Have you ever tried green fat?

I think you would like green fat.

So green fat is like a multi-fat and it's plant-based.

Oh, and it is a liquid form.

Oh.

It's really, really, and I think that you would be somebody like, because you know, fat's really important in your body in terms of your brain cognition and really

inflammatory responses joints whatever but if you're a vegetarian or vegan you got to be careful also because the saturated fats right well yeah and also I was going to say because you don't know how the what what's what this I guess the added ingredients are coming from right like how it's manufactured yeah if you care that much I don't know no of course I do yeah no I do and that's why I just I think it has to be such a personal thing and that's why that's exactly and of course it's so nice to know the variety that's out there that's why I love sharing different products because so many people say wow this really helped me.

And other people say, it really didn't work for me.

Yeah, exactly.

But that's what it's about.

It's about experimenting.

So when someone says, I've been taking this and it's been great for me, that's great for them.

Right.

You try it.

You see if it works for you.

And I honestly see health as the best investment of money possible.

I agree.

I would rather not go on a vacation and spend money on getting my blood work done.

I spend money on getting the right supplements for me, spend money experimenting on stuff like that

than I would taking a holiday because my health is going to enable me to live a longer life that holiday may not and improved longer life yes yes exactly improve long exactly yeah not just living and having like not having quality of life especially since i've been since i've hit my 30s like i really feel your 30s are your opportunity 30 to 40 is your opportunity to not reverse the damage you've done but to start investing to prevent things in the future yeah it's the era I'm using as let me make my body as strong as healthy as possible so then, whatever comes my way as my body naturally will deteriorate, because that is just what life is.

Tell me about it.

As your body deteriorates, it's giving my, I'm giving myself a fighting chance to be able to do all the things I want to do in the world with a healthy body.

Yeah.

And so I've, that's been my focus since since I hit my 30s.

So then it's been ashwagandha in shakes or like how?

Yeah, so I take protein shakes.

Yeah, you do.

That I do do because

I'm trying to get into a phase of building muscle and reducing my fat mass right now.

And so I do take protein shakes.

And again, I swap it out.

Like right now, I'm using

what am I using right now?

I'm using Rituals vanilla protein mixed with, which I really like the flavor of and the vitamins in there, mixed with, there's a new one that I got sent called Pfita.

It's, it's a FITAR?

F-Y-T-A, Pfyter protein.

It, the texture of that is amazing.

It's so smooth and so delicious.

And then the other one I'm using, I literally mix a few of them together.

And then the third one I'm using is one that I actually got from the UK.

It's called Wilson, W-Y-L-D-S-S-O-N or something.

And what's the breakdown?

Is it like 20 grams of, oh, because you're also, again, the vegan thing, you're not getting, you can have.

Well, like the phytoprotein in two scoops has 30 grams of protein.

That's amazing.

Which is so great.

That's a really good breakdown.

It's a great breakdown.

So that's that.

That one's not gluten-free.

It's got proteins from...

everything from barley to wheat so that one's not like pea protein yeah it's not pea protein um but sometimes pea protein upsets people's stomachs so then this is a great alternative

the ritual one i really like the texture of it too i usually add in like strawberries and stuff into that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a good one.

So, what's in your shake?

You put the Kate, I want to know your whole morning ritual.

Oh, my God.

Let's start from the beginning.

Okay, I don't want to, but we're piecemealing it.

Okay, what time do you wake up?

Let's go through the whole morning ritual.

Okay, let's do it.

So, yeah, morning ritual.

I was, my usual wake-up time is between 5 and 5.30.

That is my ideal.

Ideal?

Yeah, that's my ideal.

But for a while, I've been waking up at like 6 or something, 6, 6.30, because I wasn't feeling very well.

I was feeling quite tired.

But right now, we're going through this really really amazing spiritual month.

It's called Kartik, where you can recommit to your spiritual practices.

And it's a time to just invest a little bit more.

And what is it?

Yeah, tell me what this is.

Yeah, so it's called Kartik.

That's the Sanskrit word.

And essentially, it's astrologically seen to be a really sacred month of spiritual practices.

Like there are certain times of the year and certain times when astrology, you know, I don't want to get into that too much because I don't know too much about it, but it's seen to be a time where the planets are all in a specific way to enable us to connect deeper.

Okay.

And so essentially what it does for me is it gives me the opportunity to reset.

And I just love a reset.

Like I'm a reset person.

I'm like, okay, every week is a reset for me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So this month, I, it's been, um, we're near the end of the first week.

And I just made the decision that I know my spiritual practices were going up and down quite a bit.

And they are really the core for me to feel okay throughout my day and to feel like I've got purpose in my life.

I really struggle when they're out of work.

And so I just reset.

So the first day I got, I set my alarm for like 5:30.

I was trying to wean myself up to 5 a.m.

Today was my first 5 a.m.

day.

It's been great.

Are you exhausted by now?

No, because I've been used to waking up at that time for a while.

It was just over the past couple of months after my book and stuff.

I was just really, everything was all over the place and I just found it difficult to refocus.

So I would wake up around five and then I go to my kitchen, I'll make my hot water and my CCST, take it into my meditation area with me.

And then I'm meditating for an hour and a half in the morning.

But bear in mind, I've been doing this for 10 years, and it's obviously taken me a while to get it to this point.

But it's a practice that I've committed to, and I really what kind of meditation is it?

I do mantra meditation.

What is it called?

Mantra.

Mantra.

Yeah, mantra.

So you have a mantra and you say it over and over again.

What is can you say what your mantra is?

Are you allowed?

Yeah, it's not.

I know with TM, you can't say that.

Yeah.

Mine is called the Hare Krishna mantra.

So it's, there's three words in it: Hare, Krishna, and Rama.

Hare means is the feminine energy of God, like you're inviting feminine energy and the compassionate side to yourself and of God and the universe.

And then Krishna means all attractive.

So you're essentially saying like, I attract everything attractive and good and well for my body into me.

And then Rama means reservoir of pleasure.

Like that's the trans, that's the Sanskrit translation to it.

But essentially the mantra is for peace, prosperity in your life, deeper connection.

They're Sanskrit words.

And I just think that there are are certain words that carry such deep energy with them because they've been said for years and years and there's so much that's been poured into these words.

Every word carries energy.

Yeah.

And I've tried so many mantras and this was the mantra that I've been chanting for 10 years now.

It has just been, it's been really special.

I use beads.

So I have a...

like these beads that I use to help with focus and attention because we're so used to using our phones all the time and you just need something in your hand.

And so I have certain things that I relate to my meditation practice.

The beads, I I use flute music in the background to help, you know, engage my ears when I'm meditating.

And then I put on incense.

That's the smell that I associate with my meditation.

And I have an altar where either I'll look outside into nature, I'll close my eyes, or I have an altar which I keep some of my Indian like DTs and

yeah.

So it's like a whole, it's like a whole thing.

It is.

And then in the morning, we do this really beautiful practice, which my mom.

Do you do it with your husband?

Sorry, I mean, we as part of like my tradition.

Uh-oh.

But yeah, uh he does this too but with you do you guys meditate together so i naturally wake up earlier so i wake up earlier and i start my practice and then he'll join like an hour in or something wow okay go on this is fascinating i love it um and so this part of my practice i really love we offer back all the basic elements to the universe or god whatever you want to call it or whatever you believe in but it's the concept of let me offer back everything in the morning that I'm gonna utilize during the day.

So we offer back water and we offer back, I use incense, which I see as earth because it's made of sandalwood, a candle, which is fire, and then meditation, which is ether, which is sound vibration, like the mantra meditation, the sound vibration.

And so I just love thinking about it in the morning in that way, because essentially what you're saying is, thank you, universe, thank you, God, for every single thing that keeps me alive and that allows me to exist in this world.

And you do that first thing in the morning.

For an hour and a half.

Oh, no.

That's just, that's just an additional practice, like a prayer, almost like a prayerful moment where you do that.

Oh, okay, okay.

But you physically do it.

You know, we do a lot of prayer comes from our heart.

Yeah.

But at the altar or when you go outside, you can offer back those specific things.

Like I light the incense, I light the candle.

It's a physical practice that you can put into place versus it being a, you know, I love prayer, but prayer is more in the mind.

Whereas, you know, when you think about when you love someone and you want to show them gratitude, a lot of the time it's in action.

And so these small actions allow you to show that for God or for the universe in that way.

And so I do that.

I have a bit of prayer.

So that whole process though, between the hour 5:30 to about 7:30.

So two hours.

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So you're in this space,

in this like

meditation area for two hours.

And you, how do you sit there for an hour and a half?

I guess when you have a whole like routine.

I think it's, you know, trust me, my mind, there are times where I'm in that place physically and not mentally.

There are times where I am walking about feeling agitated.

I'm on my phone.

I'm distracted.

But you know what?

With practice and commitment comes this,

I don't know, it's like the commitment breeds confidence in that practice.

And for me, even if I've left the practice, even if I haven't done it right, even if I feel like not doing it, I keep showing up because I know and have felt the benefit of it.

So it is difficult.

It's not, it's not easy in any sense.

I go up and down with my practices over and over again.

And you think, and this is what I always, I always talk to people about this because they're like, oh, you've been doing this for 10 years.

You must be so enlightened and you must be this.

And I said, no, things go like this and go down like this so fast.

It's so difficult with the world that we live in to just be on a constant high.

That's not how life works.

So just like in relationships, it's the same.

Everything goes up and down.

You have to know that that's how your spiritual practices are going to be too.

So don't be disheartened if one day you sit down and all you want to do is be on your phone.

Be on your phone and meditate if that's what it's going to take you can do that no ideally you shouldn't but what i'm saying is if

that sounds good to me if you're still showing up yeah and you're still committing and you're sitting in your space and you're able to you're meditating and then you have to write something down and you're i keep a book with me sometimes because things flow through my mind and either i'm trying to hold on to it while i'm trying to meditate and that's not helpful for anyone so i'll use my phone i'll write things down sometimes if my mind is racing but what i'm saying is don't stop your commitment because you're only able to half arse it like if you're gonna if you're gonna show up and you're still gonna do it, it's better than zero.

It's better than zero.

And that's how I feel about my workouts.

Like, I'm so committed to my workouts where even if I know I know I need movement in the day, so even if I don't want to do a heavyweight workout, let me go and just do a walk.

But I still show up and do that.

Whereas with my spiritual practices, I used to kind of shame myself and be like, Well, I don't have the full hour or I don't even have these 15 minutes.

So, what's the point?

I'll just do it tomorrow.

Yeah.

But those 15 minutes are going to make a huge difference in my day.

So, why not just show up for the 15 minutes?

And most of the time, when the days that you think it's going to be the worst, it actually ends up being the best.

Yeah, that's what I've noticed.

That's when you probably need it the most.

And you need it the most.

And usually, that 15 minutes turns into 40 minutes or longer.

So you have to kind of keep on showing up and be consistent.

Consistency is the key for everybody.

It really is.

It's for every single thing in life.

I used to find it so hard to finish projects.

Yeah.

That's why my book was such a like, I was shocked because I'm not good at finishing things.

I'm good at getting excited about it.

I'm good at being the creative behind it.

But finishing things has always been so difficult for me.

And it's the consistency of just showing up every single day, even if I'm not in the right mindset, even if I'm not, it made me feel confident about myself.

Totally.

I agree.

That's how you really build true confidence, really, is that when you follow through with the commitments that you make for yourself.

I'm starting to learn that.

You know, that's what I noticed is that you can't really go out there for confidence building.

You see all these like videos again, like how to three ways to build self-confidence.

It's all within you.

Like if you're not able to follow through on your own commitment to you, then it's not real confidence.

And even when people like, you know, the more that you grow online, the more that you get a community online, you have so many people telling you, you're doing great.

You're amazing.

You're doing this.

And you can build a sense of such false confidence, but internally, you don't believe in yourself at all.

Absolutely.

And I've definitely gone through that rabbit hole of people telling me, I'm, oh, wow, you're so spiritual.

Oh, wow, you're so this.

Oh, wow, you're so that.

And then I would have to take a serious step back and reflect and be like, I'm not doing my basics right now so whatever they're telling you you need to snap out of it because that's not you don't be listening to what

they're saying because you are not doing the work it takes to be that and so do the work and be that and then what other people say that's that's fine but their perception of you is not reality so you better start doing the work to actually live up to that 100 i think in general though that's the i think a big issue and problem with overall that and a big arching message with social media and i maybe and obviously I don't know where you stand with this, but this whole concept, I call it like the caudal culture, where it's like this ideology is like, you are enough.

No matter what you are, you are enough.

You are enough.

And to me, it's like, I don't think, I'm like, well, I mean, how do you know that I'm enough?

Like, if I'm not, if I'm not putting effort into something, right?

If I'm not putting the work in, the hours, the practice of anything, it could be your health, it could be your work, it could be your kids, it could be anything, that I'm not enough.

No.

So don't, I think

you You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I really do.

You're like, you're giving people too much credit when maybe credit's not like owed.

And then

you're giving people an excuse to be basically enough of like, of not trying.

I agree.

Yeah.

I think that's really important to say.

And I think we've got this narrative now where it's like, whatever you are.

is fine.

And whatever you're doing, it's perfect.

And it's like, no, but for yourself, not for anybody else.

100%.

Know that, like, if you feel you're doing enough in yourself and you truly believe that way, great.

But if you still feel like there's a lot lacking, but other people are,

what happens is we're lacking and then we fill that lack with other people's voices.

So then it makes us feel like we're full and it makes us feel like we're enough, but actually we still haven't done the work to get us up there.

We're using other people's voices and belief in us to get us there.

Yes.

And it ends up being a false stepladder.

It is.

And you end up falling, which is what I go through constantly where eventually you're going to fall from it so people can gas you up enough and you can be floating in in cloud nine but eventually that gas is going to run out yeah and you're going to fall flat on your face because you haven't built the steps and you haven't built the concrete foundation to get you to that level absolutely and there's a difference i think between actually confidence and self-esteem i think self is there's a big difference like someone can say yeah you're enough you're enough and it builds false confidence in you but that's what that's the stuff that doesn't last it only like it's like it's like willpower you can only have it for so long so you have to build these other things discipline and consist but you do that through you know consistency it's that who are you when no one's watching yeah think about that because i'm in my meditation room sometimes and i'm like looking at my phone and then i hear footsteps i'm like let me put my phone away right like no but what am i doing when no one is watching what is what what exactly and like so do you say to yourself no matter what even if you're half asking it or like on the phone Are you not leaving that room for an hour and a half?

I've started saying that to myself, but it's not that I won't leave the the room.

I might say, okay, you know what?

I'm going to walk outside.

I'm going to get a breath of fresh air and

I'm going to come right back.

But I use breath work a lot to reset my body and my mind because I find that, you know, your breath controls so much.

The breath controls your emotions.

It can control the activity in your mind.

It can control how fast or slow your mind is going.

And I've really noticed that because as my life has gotten busier, I've noticed my anxiety get higher.

And the only thing that's helped me, and I'm doing it now because I noticed myself speaking quite fast, the only thing that's helped me is taking breaths during my day and not just shallow breaths like seriously deep breaths where I'm feeling it travel down my throat travel down my stomach really filling up every part of my body and it has been a game changer for me and so halfway through my meditation or even five minutes in if I notice my mind is shifting or is starting to race I'll just take a second I'll put down my beads I'll take a really deep breath and then I'll restart and I keep telling myself I'm like it's just one bead at a time it's It's one mantra at a time.

It's not, oh, this hour and a half.

Let me just finish it.

And also, I think about it this way, like I tell people sometimes, oh, I went for a two hour walk and they're like, two hour walk, that's so long.

And I'm like, two hours of movement of my body in the 24 hours that we are stagnant, 22 hours that we're stagnant.

If you think about it in that way, it's not long.

And so two hours of stillness in 22 hours or, you know, the rest of the day or 14 hours, whatever it is of the day, if you think about it in that respect, how much of your life even even is that?

How much of your day is that that you're spending that time with yourself?

So I always try and put it into perspective of that.

I'm like, those phone calls can wait.

I've got the rest of the eight-hour workday to do that.

Those conversations that I think I can't wait to have, they can also wait.

Yeah, I agree with you.

And

the funny thing is, not funny.

The problem is the busier you do, get me too.

The more anxious I get.

And that's the problem.

It's like, how do you calm that anxiety from all the other things that are good?

And so you're saying that this like meditation or breath work, it actually makes the time you do have after the change

yeah

for being better and more productive it sets me up to give more to other people because i i was saying this this morning i can't remember whether i was saying online or to my friend right now but i was saying how your spiritual connection as soon as you feel disconnected you're disconnecting from from a source of energy and power and so just as we have food to sustain us and our physical body and then we have you know for your mentality for your for your mind you may have i i don't know your work fuels you you know different things

yeah but there is another energy source that sometimes we're not even connected to and that is our spiritual energy source and so it's a whole source of fuel that we're actually missing out on that's providing us this energy and this ability to give and keep and actually i think spiritual energy is the one that can give us the most because it's unlimited our physical body can only take so much exact our mental energy can only take so much but your spiritual energy is almost like it tenfolds the more you do it yeah and so i've noticed that with people, I've met such incredible, enlightened, like spiritual teachers, and their capacity to give is endless.

Even if their physical body is diminishing, even if their mental health, even if they're getting dementia, their ability for gratitude to give and the space that they have inside of them to open their heart and give to other people is endless.

And I've seen that.

firsthand and I'm like, wow, how are they able to have this capacity to love and give?

And it's because because they're connected so deeply spiritually.

And so I see that in Jay so much, his capacity to give to people and the

expansiveness of his energy and physical ability only comes because of his spiritual connection.

And I find it.

it's it's incredible to watch because what he gets done in a day and the capacity to which he works and the level at which he works i have never experienced someone firsthand do that really

his his like his whole team are just like how does this human do this?

Because he's just so focused, and everything has come from practice, but it's also this surge of like his deep intention and belief that comes from his spiritual practices that I feel has just fueled him through his life.

And that's incredible.

You know what's amazing about that?

I remember now when I had, when I talked to him, he showed me on his phone or something, or I don't know, all these different like sticky notes that were different colors.

Does he still do that?

I think he does, yeah.

And it like the amount of stuff in a day are like, it's like if you show his calendar, I'm like, how do you, I think that, you know what, spiritual practices expand you in a way that you don't even realize.

And that's why when I don't have them in place or when they're wavering, I really struggle to make it through my day.

And I always think, oh, it's because I'm not eating the right things or I'm not getting the right vitamins.

But actually, this one week that I have recommitted and refocused during my day, it has brought a new life into me.

And I was just like, wow, I kept saying to yourself, isn't it so crazy that I've been trying to supplement and I've been trying to sleep more and I've been trying to do all these things, but what I really needed, of course, you need all of those things, but what I really was missing was this spiritual connection to myself and to God that I just had been missing for such a long time because I'd been neglecting it for such a long time.

And I just had to reprioritize.

I love that.

So what exactly?

So is the meditation and the breath work, is that's not part of your spiritual connection or is that the spiritual connection?

that is the spiritual connection because because you said something earlier about say you called it something sinca you said something oh um what you said you said this week it's called something

oh karte yeah garthe okay

yeah kartik is just like it's basically just a month to reconnect and like recommit to your gosh there was no an app there was not like an actual thing that you do it's just going back to the roots of what you normally do just like okay let me try again let me reset reset let me tell myself it's okay to fail and come back to this practice.

Let me just, and so I wrote down at the beginning of this month all the things that I wanted to commit to.

I want to read a little bit more of my, you know, spiritual texts.

I want to.

What's the books that you would fix?

The Bhagavad Gita.

The Bhagavad Gita.

It's like, it's, again, like a thousand, thousand-year-old book, but there's just, I see it as a guidebook to life.

It's incredible.

What's it called?

The Bhagavad Gita.

You're going to have to text this to me.

I mean, there's just so many, this is fascinating because I'm so, it's like a breath of fresh air for me.

You know I'm serious because you hear people say the same things over and over again.

Yeah.

And these are all things that I've never really like heard before that I think can be so helpful and beneficial for people.

Yeah, it has it has been for me.

I can only speak for myself in all of these things, but there's trial and error, right?

Trial and error.

Yeah.

Bhagavad Gita has been, my mom gave me this book when I went to university or college.

I say university, I'm Canadian.

Oh, you say university, yeah.

My mom gave me this book from the, when I was leaving for university and and she said, whenever you're lost, just look through this and you'll find something in there that helps you.

And I was like, yeah, okay, sure.

And so I took it with me, didn't look at it for a year.

And I went through a phase in university where I just really didn't feel like I belonged.

I never drank.

I found it difficult to like fit into the culture of university.

And so I remember, I don't know, I think it was a big drinking culture there.

And

I found it really hard because I just never wanted to drink.

I kept thinking people felt like I wasn't taking part when I wasn't drinking.

And it was, you know, know that's what the whole culture of university felt like totally it's like a big keg of like people like drinking I felt the same way that's why I wanted to ask you I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt no no no that's okay so she gave me this book and then eventually I started opening it reading it some parts I understood some parts I didn't but there was always this feeling of being understood whenever I opened that book and from that point on I've read it many many times I've now studied it and I've learned so much from it and I really see it as a guide to life and the essential the essence of of it is it's a soul a like a warrior talking to God and they're on a chariot they're in the middle of a battlefield and you're like how does that relate to me but it does because we're all on a battlefield of life yeah and the questions that this origin the warrior is asking God who is you know the actually

is driving the chariot that he's on about to go into war they're having this conversation it's basically the talk between soul and god and that's essentially what it is asking questions about life death reincarnation about our purpose in the world, about what we should be doing and not doing, what goodness means, what passion means, what ignorance means, like all these different topics.

And I'm like, wow, this.

So every time I revert back to that, like whenever I feel a little bit lost or feel like I need to figure out what my purpose is in the world, which by the way, I feel like I go through all the time.

I'm like, why am I even here?

Right, right.

It really helps to ground me back and find some answers.

You seem pretty self-aware, though, like when, like of who you are, what you're doing.

And if you don't feel that way, you kind of, you kind of pivot.

I think I'm still trying to figure.

I think, you know, what's difficult when you have someone in your life, which is amazing, but that is so purpose-driven, like Jay.

Yeah, and I think what I did at the beginning is I jumped onto his bandwagon.

I was like, I'll just help you do what you're doing.

Yes.

And when it, and because what you're doing is so amazing, obviously, that should be my purpose because that seems amazing.

And he never asked me to do that.

It was just me thinking, this is what I should be doing because he's doing it and it's amazing.

The problem is when it's not your purpose, you run out out of the desire or the energy to actually do it.

And so I was kind of riding on his wave without actually having the deep intention of why I was doing it.

And so I think I realized that a little bit late.

And so I am trying to figure that out.

There's a big difference between things that have come to you versus the things you should be doing.

And I think I'm trying to balance that of, is social media really what I want to do or has it just come to me?

Yeah.

Are these things that I'm doing in my life, I mean, everything, is it because it's coming to me or is it something that I want to do?

And I think next year is my era of refining that and really trying to figure that out because I think I still haven't figured it out because I don't know what truly makes me happy.

I know my spiritual practices make me happy, and so part of me is like, Why am I even doing this?

Let me just shut it all down and live a really simple life because I know that would also make me happy.

I was gonna say, you seem very astute on that, and I think that's a very I don't hear that often because a lot of people who are on social media and at the platforms, I'm curious, like they that's like that's now their main driver in life.

And that's all about how much can I grow?

How much faster can I grow?

What can I do with it?

And the fact that you're even conflicted about, is this really what I want to be doing?

Or is it because like it came to me because of Jay is like an interesting and breath of fresh air.

I'm telling you, because you don't hear that.

I'm curious, how many of your friends, like your good friends, are all social media influencers?

Do you have any who are just regular ideally?

All my friends at home are.

Like normal, I mean, in LA.

Oh, in LA.

In LA, I have a lot of people in different

spaces.

But still.

But I do have, I have friends that are in the same industry.

Yes.

Oh, in the food, you mean?

Oh, no, not in food, in like in social media or their online

presence, but I also have a lot of friends who are not.

Not.

Yeah.

See, I think that's a big, a big distinction.

Like, I feel like to have that kind of diversity is probably important because you forget, for me, anyone talking about myself, but if you're, you get so mired in one way

of all that.

You get to have different conversations.

You get to focus on different things.

Like I host like a games night for, or I do something every Friday.

Whenever I am here, I've started doing this thing where I just plan for whichever one of my friends are available and free.

We will just hang out to create community.

And I don't even post about them.

I haven't like since I've started them.

And it's nice because we all come together and it's no one's on their phones.

And it's so wonderful.

And it's kind of created this culture within my friend group.

And whether it's eight people that show up or the other day, 25 people that showed up, it's so lovely because it's so much of us just being together yeah versus us which i used to do too everything was filmed and everything was this is who i'm hanging out with and this is what i'm doing and it really drained the life out of me yeah and it drained my personality out of me it really did i know that's why i was asking more also because of me i totally understand and that's why it's like it's hard though because part of your brain is like that's what you do because that's what you do for a living

and part of it is it's hard to make the distinction a lot of times and i'm so grateful for it too like don't get me wrong I love building a community.

I love building communities, whether it's in a small way in my own home or whether it's this amazing online community.

And I really understand the responsibility that it brings.

And, you know, I made mistakes with partnerships that I did because, oh, I can get make this much money from it.

Why shouldn't I do it?

I learned so much along the way.

And I now realize there's such a duty and responsibility of when you build a community.

But at the same time, do I want to be so out there and exposed as a person and constantly like have people knowing who I am and what I'm doing.

I don't.

I deep down, I don't think I do.

And so I think I'm battling between the desire to share, but also the desire to be unseen.

I really appreciate being unseen now.

Totally.

But then also valuing like, wow, this is such an incredible opportunity to share with so many people and let me be a voice that is one that should be heard or like valuable.

And so I think I'm still trying to figure it out, honestly.

I don't know

i think i'm trying to live in a way yeah well yeah the good thing about content though that you do right it's about giving people ways that they can up-level their life in a health wellness way so it doesn't have to necessarily be about you personally yes yes yes

totally and i've definitely i've taken a step back from doing a lot of personal sharing online i think i did that a lot at the beginning it would be where i was my family me and jay what we were doing we all do that because i think that's part of the whole process.

And then I think once you do it for a little bit, you realize that you kind of do want to step back a little bit and have it as have it a bit more curated to what you want to share versus having having to share a lot of your life, which you feel you, like, which you think you should.

Well, you know what?

I heard you say, I think, on another podcast or something when I was doing my little research.

Yeah.

And I really, really, it like really stuck in my brain.

And I like really liked the way you said it, which was that you're out there on a platform to be a positive like role model, so to speak, and give people, like uplift people versus getting, like, basically, you can go through, scroll through people's Instagram and like feel their nervous system, so to speak, their anxiety, their depression, their like angst, versus being like a source of positivity or of like a way to like help people and give people like ways to they can benefit like help and benefit their lives.

And you've made like a distinctive effort, I feel to do that.

I have, and I think the only way I can actually be that person is because I have such an amazing support system.

Yeah.

Like I have my mom who I can talk to, who, by the way, I talk to three times a day.

Like I was gonna say, you must be very close to your mom because you brought her up at least four times already.

Have I?

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, she's literally been

amazing.

So tell me, I'd like to.

No, I won't.

I will start crying.

No, I think I love that.

And like when I was listening to other things that you did, that's what stuck out to me is like you were saying, my mom used to make me.

Just want to say I'm on my period, okay?

No, no, no.

I think it's really, I listened.

I started started to because I'm a mom so I was what I thought Demonstrat cry myself because I thought I want my kid like in 20 years from now to talk about me in the same way that you're talking about your mom like you said and it's a way that's very like like matter of fact like yeah my mom used to make me carrot juice and she'd always make me all this like she'd make me all these like and i was like oh my god i wonder if dylan's gonna remember her i how i made

like i would be like thinking about stuff like that or like how your mom would make you all these like healthy things and or gave you this for a university But you would bring her up and you're like you bring them up or my mom would do the recipes my dad would say

it's so that to me is probably why you're so the way you are like grounded down to earth normal no matter how successful you are your husband Jay is it doesn't matter because you have like a foundation that was so like strong.

Yeah.

The roots are so strong.

I'm so grateful for that because I really didn't realize until I started, you know, to me, my family was so normal.

Yeah.

And then I obviously grew up and I met different people from different types of backgrounds and different types of family situations.

And I was like, wow, I only realized how grateful I was after university when me and my mom became friends versus mother and daughter.

And I'm so deeply grateful.

She knew me before I knew myself.

And I never, I used to be like, no, I don't want to do this.

I don't want to do this.

And she's the one who recommended I do nutrition.

I didn't even know what I was going to do.

She was like, why don't you try this?

I think it'll be good for you.

Why don't you get into this?

Did that change the full trajectory of my life?

She's the one who who started my spiritual journey with for me because she recommended I read the Bhagavad Gita.

She also brought me into my spiritual practices by watching her do them.

And so, and my grandma is the same.

Like they've just been such incredible anchors.

And so for me, having that, I'm like, how can I, I don't, I have a place where I can pour my anxieties.

I have a place where I can, where I can feel really safe with people.

And then to make, so if I have that, then I have an opportunity to show up and be the best version of myself for people online that don't have that.

And I always think about it in that way where I may be having a really crappy day and I've just been crying, but I will show up online.

It doesn't mean I'm being fake.

It's me sharing the ounce of joy that I do have for other people who don't have the setup I do and don't have the support system that I do.

Totally.

And so, and yeah, I mean, I talk about my mom so much.

She's like the louder character of my friend, but my dad is the same.

Like my dad is this incredible person who has never spoken badly.

Like his character is so strong, but he's a quiet, he's quiet.

He's so quiet in the background.

He's got three women in the house, me, my mum, my sister.

And he has been the foundation of peace and tranquility and me knowing what integrity looks like as a person.

And

always showing up for a family, even though he was so busy.

He was a refugee from like Uganda that came to UK.

They both were and they built everything from scratch.

And even though he was so busy building his business, I never once felt uncared for, unloved, or not taken care of throughout my life.

And so I really look back and I value that so much.

And even now, he's always available to talk on the phone with me.

He'll like be there to talk about anything when I need him to.

He's my biggest fan.

He's always watching things that I do.

He's so sweet.

And, and he, there are so many spiritual qualities that he had as I was growing up that I didn't realize.

But imagine a dad who's, I've never heard him talk bad about anybody.

He's always like, whatever anybody's done to me.

And he's had a lot done to him in his life.

He's like, that's, you know, if he's always practiced and preached what he lives, and I mean, he doesn't talk much, he just lives it, and I watch him do it.

Yeah, but that's the best way to learn

is through like, through what people do, not what they do.

Anyone can say anything, right?

No one can, I mean, but you have to, the best way to learn is through action.

And that's what they've showed you.

It's amazing.

And the Arabic.

Okay, I wanted to ask you about the Ayurvedic because Ayurvedic, how do you?

Ayurveda.

Yeah.

The way you say it versus the way I say it.

Oh, no, it's because I've grown up speaking the language.

It's different.

That's probably

true.

It's the pronunciation.

The pronunciation.

You're fine.

If I'm a fire, I'm Pitta.

Pitta.

Pitta.

What is the difference between like, because you learned it, like,

how did it like impact?

Is that why you know about the spices?

Is that why, like, what did you learn in that?

What is it?

So in Ayurveda, essentially, what it teaches you, yeah, so what you're talking about is your constitution.

The constitution.

So you know how we have DNA types or blood groups.

In the same way, in Ayurveda, you have a constitution.

And so the constitution is made up of the different elements that we carry in our body.

We carry earth, fire, water, air, and ether all in our body, but in different amounts.

And so depending on the amounts that are within our body, you end up being a specific type, which is kapha, pitta, or vata.

What do you?

I'm a mixture of kapha and vata.

Really?

Yeah, so kapha is like...

Kapha has like heavier earth and water together.

So the positives of it is it can be very grounding and nurturing, but the negatives when it goes out of balance can be you can be quite low in mood.

You can feel quite stagnant in your mind and body because Ayurveda is amazing, incorporates body and mind.

So the qualities go across both.

So Pitta, for example, Jay is a Pitta.

He is a prime example of a Pitta body.

He is determined, focused,

will get things done, unwavering.

But when out of balance, it can lead to agitation because things aren't getting done anymore.

It sounds like me, that's a fiery quality, but in body, it means he can get acid reflux, indigestion.

The fire quality is so heating in his body that when it's out of balance that's what it can cause and so with vata for me my mind is all over the place it's air quality so when i have two when i'm imbalanced in vata my mind's all over the place i'm here and there and i'll talk about this and then talk about that

um and then in body quality if you think about air how would that translate that's to do with movement in the body and so just like movement in the mind it can be to do with bloating in the body or gas yeah yeah so it really makes a lot of sense it does how do you find out what someone is

what your constitution is So with someone who practices Ayurveda, for example, you can look at someone's features.

Like I can look at someone and probably guess what they are based on their eye shape, nose shape, body structure.

But really?

Yeah, you really can.

But there's also a way to, one, you can take a test.

There's lots of constitution tests online.

It's based on your temperament, your digestion, how fine or thick or thin your hair is, the texture of your hair.

There's so many.

Oh my God, it's so intricate because your body's so intricate.

I know.

I love that.

That's why I wanted to ask.

I forgot to to ask you in the beginning.

I recommend doing an online test, a really extensive one.

I can share one with you.

Yeah.

And then the other level is when you go to an Ayurvedic practitioner, they can do it simply from listening to your pulse.

So they'll put three fingers on your pulse on different parts of your wrist.

And depending on how slow or fast your different, there's many pulses that go through our body, they will be able to tell you a lot just from hearing your pulse.

Really?

And that's insane.

That's amazing.

And then, how do you like, what's the purpose then?

So let's say you know I'm a pita or this

everything now.

So so it's like you know when you know your your partner's love language you can then serve them better in that way.

In the same way when you know your constitution, you then know what you can what you should and shouldn't eat, what you can and can't like what you should avoid, not should and shouldn't eat, but if you find yourself a little bit imbalanced where you've got overheating in your body, for example, you need to have cooler spices.

You need to have foods which aren't spicy or acidic.

You then need to have like drinks which are more cooling for you or vegetables.

And every single thing we eat has a specific quality.

So once you learn the qualities of yourself, you then start to learn the qualities of the food that you're eating, the activities you do.

A person who's high pitter or high fire, do not do HIT training or

because you're increasing the fire in your body.

Yes.

Basically, you know what happens?

Because that's what I do.

I do all that stuff.

Yeah.

And I like at a rash.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Why?

Because it's increasing the heat in your body.

And so if you do want to do that, for example,

let's talk about some tips and tricks that you could do.

So drink fennel water in the morning.

Cool your body down before you even start doing your workouts.

If you are doing that, make sure you do some slow breath work to end off your workout, to stop bringing the heat down in your body.

You're a fountain of information.

There's a lot.

Ayurveda is an unlimited source of knowledge.

It's just insane.

Oh my God.

So basically, if you're a PIDA, so a lot of entrepreneurs, I would imagine, or people who are like, like type A personalities.

Yes, they will be PITA.

They'll be Pitta.

But also, just FYI, just so that I radicate people don't hear this and say, you're telling people the wrong things.

Everybody has Vata, Pitta, and Kaffa in them.

We all have it.

So it comes in percentages.

So you may be 60% Kaffa, 20% Pitta, and 20% Vata.

Like you'll have a percentage.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you have a constitution that you're born with.

That is your...

baseline like your genetic DNA.

Yeah.

That is your baseline.

What happens is we come into contact with different environments, different foods, we go off off balance.

So the idea is we're constantly trying to live our life, create an external and internal environment to continuously bring us back to our original constitution.

Oh, that is.

So that's our optimal environment.

And that's the theory behind it.

So do you eat everything?

Everything you do is based around your

not everything.

I mean, I want to eat a pizza, Leah Pizza.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

But like I'm saying, like more or less.

I try to.

Like I know how to adjust what I'm doing.

Like as soon as I notice there's an imbalance in my body, for example, if I'm really gassy for for a long period of time yeah I know maybe I shouldn't be eating broccoli maybe I shouldn't be I'm eating popcorn which increases air in my body maybe instead let me eat some steamed vegetables have some grounding spices eat some nourishing foods which are heavier in quality to to bring yeah to to offset the vata or air quality and so you just start learning all these little things of of how to adapt to you know cure these little things that happen through your body oh my i think it's i i've always been fascinated by it couldn't eat It's super interesting.

It's making me, I can't wait to next year start learning about it.

I'm going to go deep dive.

You're going to go deep dive into that?

Because I do find that to be super.

And I also cut you off because you were talking about your morning routine.

You said you, oh my gosh, is that where we were?

Honestly, we were like, oh, I'm like an,

I'm all, maybe I have to have some voda.

Like, I think I'm like mostly pita, but I have to have some of that voda because I do the same thing.

I swap from one thing to another.

All the time.

All the time.

It's going to be a fun conversation for you.

What's this thing?

I was going to say.

Yeah, brace yourself.

Get a big notepad and pen out to help track where we're going.

100%.

Yeah.

So just finish with your morning routine.

We could, I don't know how long.

Oh my gosh.

It's been forever.

What is the, you finish with the meditation?

So I then finished with my meditation.

I then work out on an empty stomach.

So I'll then go and do my workout.

What did you work out?

Yeah.

What was the workout?

Right now I'm doing a lot of weight training, like heavy lifting.

So I love that.

I go to a gym called Slay.

She is, she has her own personal training gym, and she's just amazing.

Her name's Louise Hazel.

She's just one of my best friends and she's incredible.

Oh, I love that.

So I've never met her before.

She's an ex-Olympian.

She's phenomenal.

You should actually have her on a podcast.

She's phenomenal.

Oh my God.

I like, well, I like my whole thing.

I'm like obsessed with her.

Oh, then you'll love her.

Yeah, you don't know anything about me, girl.

You have no idea.

Okay, yes.

So I work out in the morning weight training.

How long do you weight train?

An hour.

It's like an hour session that I'll do.

No cardio?

Yes.

So I'll do maybe like 10 to 15 minutes of cardio.

Then we'll do weight training.

And that's Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

And then Thursday, I'll do more cardio, less weight training.

How much cardio?

I'd like to know the specifics.

Oh, yes.

So I'll do

like the other day I did 60-minute, but it was mixed between high-incline walking and sprints.

Oh, so I do like high-incline, high-incline.

That makes sense.

Yeah, walking on high-incline, and then I'll sprint in between and then do that.

And then Saturday.

What do you sprint at?

I have to know.

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

So I've been sprinting at, so I start off my sprints at 7.5, and then I will go up to like 10.

That's a fast sprint.

Yeah.

But only for like 30 seconds, yeah.

Okay, you do a 30 second sprint?

Okay, how do you do that?

Well, no, if it's lower, I'll do like a minute, minute to two minutes, and then I'll build up and then I'll do lower

time, but higher

higher speed.

So how many sprints in that 60 minutes will you do?

So what I usually try to do is, so I'll walk for the first 10 minutes to warm up and then I will do five minute high incline walk and then I'll sprint.

Five minute high incline walk and then I'll sprint.

So you go back and forth.

Yeah.

And when you do your walk, okay, I know that's that, I'm like crazy with this stuff.

No, I love it.

I'm like obsessed with it.

Okay, so did you do a 15 incline?

What's the speed or what's your speed?

Yeah, so again, I like building up as I'm going through.

So I'll probably start off at like a eight incline and then I'll make it up to the 15 by the end of it.

Okay, and what speed?

What do I usually do for that?

So it depends.

So it's between like 3.5 and then it can go up to like...

4.55.

I can't go any higher on that.

That's too no five is running speed.

So that's 3.5.

3.5.

Yeah.

Now, this is like a silly question, but you have great long hair.

Do you have to put it into a bun all the time and like make sure you don't like get it?

Well, my hairdresser keeps telling me she was like, because I noticed that my hair was like thinning at the front.

She was like, stop tying your hair back.

Into the bun.

That's what happens, right?

So I'm learning to keep it long.

Thanks, Courtney.

I'm learning to just keep it out.

But it ends up being...

Do you want to run like that?

No, when I went, oh, sorry, when I run.

Yeah, I have to bun it.

Or I'll do a low bun.

Oh, yeah, you have to run it.

But then it just falls about everywhere.

Either it's right at the top here, because otherwise if if it's here, it's too heavy.

It's either here when I'm running or

I do two plats.

Yeah, that makes more sense.

Yeah.

Sorry.

That's a silly question.

Okay, so then you do the, that's what you do my workout.

Then I come back home.

What time is it now?

Okay, so my workouts usually, well, it used to be seven to eight, but since I'm trying to get back into my spiritual service, eight to nine.

Okay.

And then I come back home and I will make my protein shake and then my workday starts.

Do you put fruit in that protein shake?

So sometimes I will put strawberries in with my my vanilla because I like a strawberry shake on mine.

I use almond milk, so

almond milk, the fruit, vanilla, and maybe a mix of the two proteins.

And then I'll sometimes put some kale in if I want to.

I was hoping to get a good recipe because you are a chef.

Oh, yeah.

So mine just changes sometimes.

So, okay, I would do strawberries, my vanilla protein, a scoop of my vanilla protein, the scoop of my chocolate protein.

You put vanilla and chocolate protein?

I do because I really like the mix of both.

I should try it.

It tastes really good with strawberries.

And then...

Do you put banana?

I don't.

I can't do banana.

It increases mucus in the body, just FYI.

I was going to say, you know what else it does?

When you.

I don't like too much.

I don't like mind things being too sweet either.

Well, you know, when you take a banana and you mix it into a blender, the high glycemic, it's like no one knows that, but the glycemic.

I use avocado instead.

That's a great thing.

I was going to say that because bananas actually like spike your glycemic index so high.

Yeah.

People can, you should have like a McDonald's milkshake at the same time.

Exactly.

People don't realize that.

Yeah.

Even when I have smoothies out, I always ask them to substitute with avocado.

And then I really find that I, after my workouts, I need more carbohydrates.

I used to try and just do my protein shake, and I realized I need fuel.

And so I either will put in some oats into that, or I'll put in this gluten-free.

You guys don't have Weetabix here.

I bring it from London.

Yeah, I know what it is, though.

But like Weetabix or a cereal or something that I'll like put into, I make it like a smoothie bowl, and then I'll just kind of sprinkle that on top with some nuts and I'll eat that.

Or what I'll do is if I'm still hungry after my protein shake, about half an hour hour later, I'll do a toast with hummus and some like cucumbers, tomatoes, sprouts, that kind of situation.

I like that.

Okay, then what do you do after your workout?

Then you go into work or what do you do?

Then I go into work, then we're done.

Which is what, like, you make all your little videos.

So, do you think?

So, I have everything from Juni, which is our sparkling tea brand.

So, I have meetings and calls for them.

How's it doing, buddy?

It's good.

It's a slow process, you know.

Products are no joke.

It takes a while.

Very much.

Where do you sell an air one for sure?

Right now, Airwan and it's going into everything from lessons to...

Lassens is probably a UK thing, is it?

Oh no, no, it's here.

Here?

Here and then it's going into pretty much all the bigger stores here now.

So yeah, we've got junior meetings and then I create content.

So I've started to try and plan out my content.

So filming food recipes, doing all my recipes for

doing all my content that I need to create for when the book comes out.

Been on lots of book meetings.

Oh my gosh.

This was really fun.

Thank you so much for like coming on.

So tell everyone, just in case they don't know, where to find your beautiful page of wellness and amazing tips and tricks.

I mean, listen, I just learned so much on this video.

I know, this was a great, this was a good deep dive.

This was.

I mean, listen, you have, you're like a literally got so much information.

So tell people how to find you.

Radhi Devlukia on Instagram.

And what else is there?

Oh, my sparkling tea company is JuniTea.

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

Do you go by not, you don't put sheddy on the last of your name?

No,

we never did.

I never took it.

I was like, really, I really wanted to keep my dad's name.

Yeah, I could see now I know.

I've got women in the family.

And also, I have a thing about like, especially in Indian culture, it's so much about the women taking on everything and the man doesn't usually.

And Jay really didn't care actually.

But I was like, if the man doesn't take your name and you don't take his name, it's equal.

Like, we're fine.

It's either we both double barrel or we keep our names.

And I think that's a really, I personally feel strongly about that.

I kept my name too.

That's why I did that.

Oh, did you?

Nice.

That's why I thought it was kind of cute that you said that.

Well, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The beginning beginning of a beautiful friendship.

Yes, it really is.

Bye.

Bye, everyone.