Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?

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Speaker 2 Welcome back to Fitness Fridays, and I am joined yet again by my friend Leron. Thank you for coming, Leron.
Thank you for having me. Leron also has a gym in LA.
It's called Beyond Fitness.

Speaker 2 Beyond Fitness LA, yeah.

Speaker 1 Westfield Boulevard.

Speaker 2 You'd think I'd know the name by now, but you got a lot of things coming.

Speaker 2 I do. I actually do.
But it's super easy when you're here because

Speaker 2 it's so easy. We know each other for so long.
We're also neighbors. We're also neighbors, and we just like to blab about all things health and fitness.

Speaker 2 But today we're going to be covering a lot on nutrition because I think people are making big mistakes with their nutrition. Agreed.

Speaker 2 And because of that, they're not reaching their overall health goals. 80%

Speaker 2 of your goals, fitness-wise, body-wise, comes from your nutrition. It's not, you're not going to be making, that's what they say, like abs are made in the kitchen.
They're not made at the gym.

Speaker 2 And you can be squatting all day and you can be lunging all night. But if if you're not eating properly, then good luck to you.

Speaker 2 And so I really wanted to do an episode, a fast episode, short episode on, I believe, the top nutrition mistakes that people are making. And then you can tell me what you think.
Okay.

Speaker 2 How's that sound? Okay. Sounds great.
I believe some of the top nutrition mistakes that people are making that really can overhaul your overall goals if you just watch on these.

Speaker 2 The first one is your portions. I think portions is where people always fail.

Speaker 2 We think we know, we eyeball it, we think, okay, that's a chicken breast, or this looks like a normal size of rice or pasta. And we're always wrong.

Speaker 2 Because if you actually look at what an actual portion is to what we're actually eating, very, very different.

Speaker 2 And that can make a major difference in your overall calorie intake. So if we are much more mindful of our portions, it will save you a lot of heartache.
That's the first one.

Speaker 2 Another big one that I think is really important

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 supplementing. I think that we rely on supplements

Speaker 2 way too much over our actual nutrition, like what we're actually eating. And it's not making us any healthier.

Speaker 2 I think if we actually ate the nutrition, like the nutrients that our body needs, it would help us with our overall satiation.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
For sure.

Speaker 2 And another, I know, this is another big one. And I know you're going to, you're going to definitely agree with me on this one, is people are not consuming enough protein.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Protein is like,

Speaker 1 that's the number one.

Speaker 2 That's like, that is like the real, that is like the number one. I mean, protein satiates you.
Yeah. Right.
Like, if I'm not eating enough protein, I am starving. Yeah.
Literally starving. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I think if people would uptake their protein, it would like, it's like a game changer.

Speaker 1 Again, it's, I think that one goes down. I talk about this a lot, but it goes down to evolution.
Like we've evolved to eat protein. So our guts are like protein-seeking machines, you know?

Speaker 1 And so when they register the amino acids, like that umami flavor of protein, it's just extremely satiating because that's literally just how we're built.

Speaker 2 Well, first of all, it also regulates my blood sugar. Like I'm like, I shake if I'm if I'm hungry.
And the second I eat a piece of chicken, I feel so much better. And I'm a big animal protein person.

Speaker 2 I think that's like the really like to me, yeah, I you don't have to be an animal protein person. You can be eating, you can eat other things that are not animal protein.

Speaker 1 You could try.

Speaker 2 You can try, but but but animal protein to me is like the number one source for my protein.

Speaker 1 Again, it's how we're designed, it's how we're built.

Speaker 2 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 2 And like the other, other really big one is that eliminating food groups is a real mistake, right? Not eating enough carbs, thinking that carbs are going to make you fat.

Speaker 2 No, it's the portion and the kind of carb will make you fat, not an actual carbohydrate. Eliminating that from your diet is such a bad move.

Speaker 1 You need fats, carbs, and proteins. At some point, you're going to need to check all those boxes.

Speaker 2 You have to in order to having a balanced plan is what it is, right? Like you, you can't just eliminate because your body is like your body is going to crave it and you're going to eat it somewhere.

Speaker 2 You're going to eat something else that's maybe not as good for you, correct?

Speaker 1 Technically, I think the only one that is not essential, like from a scientific perspective, is carbs because you technically don't need carbs to survive because your body will create carbs out of protein or fat, like gluconeogenesis and stuff.

Speaker 1 But in practice, everyone needs it. And also, if you're an athlete and you're working out, you also need it for performance.
Your performance is going to suffer tremendously.

Speaker 1 Your mental health suffers tremendously without carbs because it boosts serotonin and stuff. You feel better.

Speaker 1 So practically speaking, you definitely need some form of carbs, some form of fat, some form of protein. And trying to like shortcut or like cheat the system by just getting rid of one.

Speaker 1 It's a nice idea. And a lot of people, especially with carbs, because you lose water weight, they'll lose 10 pounds in a week.
And they're like, oh, I'm a winner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you lost water and maybe some muscle.

Speaker 2 And actually, you're less healthy than you were when you were 10 pounds heavier so totally agree with you you're cheating yourself really well i feel like that's a big one right because people they're not relying on the muscle they're building they're relying

Speaker 2 big mistake huge mistake they're fat like what's it called like they're overestimating the fat loss and underestimating the muscle gain don't want to lose fat and lose muscle at the same time you only want to lose

Speaker 2 fat but it's really hard so what i think when you eat carbs like you're saying you may lose that water weight right but your muscles are made of water so you're kind of losing muscle in a way so then what would be a good strategy in your opinion where we can balance it right because we don't want to overeat carbs but for sure or anything right like by the way do you believe in this myth that eating too much protein will be bad for your kidneys no you don't believe not not animal protein fake like fake artic possibly protein shakes i doubt it even with protein shakes if they're animal animal-based, meaning dairy protein.

Speaker 1 I doubt it. But, like, natural, basically, natural sources of protein, not a chance.
Not a chance. I don't believe it for a split second.
You don't?

Speaker 2 Well, I see, this is the thing, right? Like, to me, like we talked about, protein is so important. People are getting their protein, let's say, just from like their shakes.

Speaker 2 Are they getting enough protein then? Right.

Speaker 1 Because to me, people are someone exclusively getting it from their protein shakes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, to me, I feel like that

Speaker 2 you can't just exclusively get your protein from a protein shake i wouldn't advise right well well i would think you'd be like for me when i have a protein shake i'm starving 20 minutes later right because it did i guess maybe because of the it digests really quickly into your body whatever but i feel like animal protein for me is what actually says the animal protein is what satiates me yeah if you isolate too much again i think protein shakes have their place and i will have them from time to time and i will tell clients to have them yeah me too Especially if they're learning to get their protein up and they're trying to get their gut to adjust to a high-protein diet,

Speaker 1 which in the early phases, protein is fantastic. Protein shakes have their place.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, listen, I love, by the way, I have a protein shake. I try to have a protein shake on the go.
Like, I have like my, by the way, I have literally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm literally going to have this.

Speaker 2 I have those both

Speaker 2 podcasts. But I use these a lot for pre-workout.
Yeah, pre-workout, post-workout, or on the the go. But I need, I have other things in addition than that to that, right?

Speaker 2 Like, I also use like Momentis. I like their chocolate whey protein

Speaker 2 or the vanilla whey protein. I like that too.

Speaker 2 Give me that, too. It's delicious.

Speaker 1 But like, I, I mean, it's like they have more natural sweeteners and stuff.

Speaker 2 It's like, no, no, it's just they, they, what I, what I like about it, they have, it's third-party tested. Oh, okay.
Which I like. And also, I just like the taste of it.
I like the ingredient list.

Speaker 2 I like all of it.

Speaker 2 But my point is, i i do both yeah right like but because i i need i need the satiation of having animal protein as well but i feel like what where shakes come into place a lot of times is when i need to supplement with more protein yeah right when i'm busy when you're on the go you need to have that convenience factor the convenience factor which we've spoken about in other podcasts like convenience is an underrated facet of fitness that people need to factor into what they're doing.

Speaker 1 Things have to work functionally and they have to be convenient for you.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Now, those to me are like big mistakes that i see all the time what are other ones that you see that people are making so

Speaker 1 i think not focusing on food quality and also not enjoy i think the biggest one now is like not enjoying their food like not factoring that in and again this kind of flies in the face of um what most people are told but i My theory is, and I'm really fleshing this out, so this might sound a little bit jumbled, but like, I think your brain has a certain, let's say, pleasure point principle where it wants to get a certain amount of pleasure from food.

Speaker 1 And if it doesn't get that amount of pleasure from food, it will kind of force you to binge later on. So, so essentially what's happening is that your brain is seeking pleasure from food.

Speaker 1 And if it doesn't register that pleasure from food, it will keep asking for more and more food.

Speaker 1 So by eating something that by only eating things that people don't enjoy or not consciously enjoying the food that they're eating, they're setting themselves up for failure because

Speaker 1 their body and their brain is kind of storing a little craving for later. It's like, wait a minute, I didn't actually enjoy that.
You better pay me for that.

Speaker 2 Basically, you're saying when you, a big mistake is when you deprive yourself,

Speaker 2 it will end up backfiring because you'll end up eating something different or more or badly later on. That's what I do.
That's my big thing.

Speaker 2 I deprive, I deprive, and then I'll go fucking ape shit on something else like like for example i don't want to eat a lot of sugar but then i'll eat nine pounds of grapes yeah so like that's my thing like i love fruit and i know people say fruit doesn't make you fat if you have nine pounds of grapes or mango yeah well you may not make you may not get fat but you will gain some i think it's definitely better to have a more balanced approach but then but then ultimately the truth of it is is that you probably should have given yourself the grapes in the first place.

Speaker 1 And then maybe you only would have only had four or five pounds as opposed to nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, the thing is, not even the grapes. I should have given myself something else because what I'm using is I'm using the grapes as my sugar food.
Sugar food. Like, because

Speaker 2 I'm craving sugar. So I'm like, oh, I'll just have grapes, which then really kind of brings us back to portion, right? Portions, port.
That's why I always circle right back to portions.

Speaker 2 I think where that's where most people really make that mistake is when they just overeat with that portion. It's not, like I said, it's not so much always just the food.
It's the amount.

Speaker 2 You can gain weight on eating too much healthy food. You know what I mean? And that's what I do, right? Like I'm like, oh, chicken breast is okay.
I'll have seven of them.

Speaker 2 Or, oh, you know, like grapes are okay. I'll have nine pounds.
Still, like overeating is overeating. Yeah, you can overeat good food and you can also overeat bad food.

Speaker 1 The issue with

Speaker 2 you have more wiggle room with eating good food, but you still have to, it's more wiggle room, but you still have to be careful.

Speaker 1 And that's why things like if it fits your macros and stuff, I don't think people bother with that anymore, but that used to be a thing.

Speaker 1 If it fits your macros, meaning just as long as you're eating your macros, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 The problem with that is if you're eating Twinkies as your carb source, you're going to go, you're not going to be able to stick to 200 grams of carbs a day or whatever it is, because.

Speaker 1 you know, you're just going to rifle through those so fast because they provide no actual nutrition. So your body is still craving nutrients and therefore you're going to overeat those foods.

Speaker 1 So calories in, calories out is completely non-negotiable. That's how it works.
Like you cannot, that's just a mathematical law of the universe.

Speaker 1 If your calories in more than your calories out, you will store weight. Whether that's muscle or fat is

Speaker 1 potentially negotiable depending on what you're eating.

Speaker 2 But I don't see why that's even still a controversial. No, that's just a fact.

Speaker 1 It's like gravity. That's just how it works.

Speaker 2 But that's controversial. Like, there's been times where people were like, what are you talking about? Calories in versus calories out? That's not how it works.
There's no point arguing about it.

Speaker 2 I'm like, what are you talking about? That's just how it works.

Speaker 2 It is how it works because

Speaker 2 I'm a prime example, right? I exercise like a fanatic. I eat very healthy.
But if I'm not watching how many calories I'm inputting into my body versus how many I am outputting, I gain weight.

Speaker 1 I think where the conversation becomes more interesting and nuanced is where you start to talk about,

Speaker 1 you start to break that down and talk about what does calories in mean versus what does calories out mean. First of all, you would have to absorb the calories in.

Speaker 1 So, if your body, for some reason, decides it doesn't want to absorb those calories, if your gut says, you know what, I'm not absorbing these calories, I'm going straight out, then technically that's not calories in.

Speaker 1 It went into your mouth, but it didn't go into your body. So,

Speaker 1 that's not something that happens all the time.

Speaker 2 But again,

Speaker 1 it's like, where does that calories in versus calories out equation become relevant? What does calories out mean? Does it only mean mean walking? No, your calories out could be your growing your hair.

Speaker 1 It could be your reproductive system. It could be your digestive system.
It could be your immune.

Speaker 1 So it's so insanely complex, that thing, that to try to reduce it to a mathematical formula that we can predict is

Speaker 1 the flip side to it is you're not really going to be able to do that long term. It's too complex, but you have to be aware that that is how it works.

Speaker 2 Another one I should think is really important too, because again, we talk so much about protein and we seem to be remiss about fiber.

Speaker 2 Like me, maybe I'm eating a lot of fiber by eating all these grapes and everything else. It does.
Or like, or I'm a big vegetable, vegetable and fruit person.

Speaker 2 But I would say, like, there's a crazy stat that like, I think 90% of Americans are not eating enough fiber. And fiber is a mat, is like a major macro ingredient and macronutrient that's so important.

Speaker 2 And it helps with keeping you full and your digestion and your gut and your gut your gut even eats certain types of fiber it literally like pulls energy from the fiber itself so your gut needs the fiber just to like function well so besides just eat you know making sure you are eating enough protein make sure you're eating enough fiber and if you can't eat fiber then get a supplement that can help you with like getting that fiber because it keeps you full longer faster not faster, but longer.

Speaker 2 It helps with your absorption of your nutrients. So if you're not absorbing your nutrients, the other problem is that you may eat more because you don't feel like you're eating properly.

Speaker 2 Does that make sense? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also in nature, again, it goes back to like my, my nature kind of binding philosophy for nutrition. Like in nature, fiber's everywhere.
You know, every plant. Yes,

Speaker 1 every plant has some type of fiber in it in nature.

Speaker 2 It's only when we live in our modern world that we have the ability to mechanically get rid of fiber that we that we're not getting enough so if you were to eat in a more natural way like as we were built to eat you would you should be getting more fiber and i think they say what you should be eating between 25 and 30 grams of fiber per day right now i guess depending on the size of the person but i think if you can do that like that's why incorporating fruits and vegetables is so important taking a supplement that's where i think where the supplements come like i was saying earlier i think sometimes we're supplementing not for our body, but for what people think is like what's popular, right?

Speaker 2 Like you're taking the trendiest supplement. Yeah, some really edge obscure thing.
Right. Versus what your body actually, what you actually need.

Speaker 2 Like if you know you're somebody who's not eating enough fiber, then take that as a supplement. If you're somebody who's not eating enough fats, like fatty fish, then you can have like, take an omega.

Speaker 2 Like making sure you're supplementing for yourself will help balance out your nutrition or your nutrients properly. That makes sense makes sense.
I think those are good ones. What else did we miss?

Speaker 2 Eating enough protein, eating enough fiber, don't overly restrict your calories.

Speaker 2 That's another big one. I think people sometimes think in order to lose weight, they have to eat less.

Speaker 2 That's another big common myth because sometimes what happens is we end up eating more down the road because we're trying to eat less at a certain time. That's different than deprivation.

Speaker 2 That's different than deprivation.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think don't, yeah, you don't want to deprive yourself.

Speaker 2 Like, no, that's different though. Like, for example, you're like, okay, I'm only going to have this one egg for breakfast, right? Versus having the egg, the avocado, the piece of whole grain toast.

Speaker 2 We end, that's different than deprivation. It's like, I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate.
I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. And then you end up like, you know,

Speaker 2 binging on a chocolate cake. This is different.
I think that, like, there's a misconception, a big nutrition mistake is that like we eating less is more. Actually, sometimes eating more is more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially with regard to like protein. I think people need to eat more actual food to avoid snacks.
And that's why I always go back to the jungle analogy.

Speaker 1 Like if you stick to actual food, like how you would eat in the jungle, if you stick to actual food, you'll find yourself satiated a lot,

Speaker 1 like more, with more consistency and a lot faster. And the whole process is a lot more enjoyable.

Speaker 1 When you try to like have these like clever little tricks and eat these kind of made in a lab foods that everyone seems to be eating now, some cool thing that's being pushed on TikTok or just

Speaker 1 all of these things.

Speaker 1 I can't even, I'm so divorced from that stuff that I don't even know the name of it.

Speaker 1 But I see, like, and I'm not going to name names because I don't know, I don't know who's been on this podcast before, but like all these things, like, you know, you know what I mean, like things made in a lab versus things made in the lab.

Speaker 2 Oh, I know. Well, that to me is a bunch of nonsense.

Speaker 1 We're going to do a podcast about that right now, which is like these like crazy, like, you know, myths and debunking some of these things nobody i know who's in really good shape and no high-level athlete consumes more than 20 of their diet in in these kind of edge man-made foods every especially athletes

Speaker 1 every high high high performing athlete and they'll have probably two three four foods that they religiously like they almost worship these foods because they think they have these like magical powers to make them function better and it's because they kind of do like every athlete i know has, like, whenever I look at what they eat, they always talk about two or three or four foods that they absolutely love.

Speaker 1 And they're usually, actually, this is one more thing I would say is nutrient density.

Speaker 1 Like, focus, people don't focus enough on like nutrient density, not just macro, but micro, like the hidden, invisible nutrients inside food. A lot of this has to do with color.

Speaker 1 So like colorful foods.

Speaker 2 I was just going to say that, you know, it's funny. I was just going to say that.

Speaker 2 Cause actually what I was actually going to say, what you were saying is like, I have, and i agree with what you were saying but i also think that there's a little bit of a caveat to that and that is it's really important to have i eat i'm eat i eat very boring right like i eat the same things over and over to someone else it's boring or to you it's boring to anybody it's boring right like i eat the same thing over and over again but i will say that i i do even though i think it's important i do think that I've did my body an injustice, which is like, I think variety actually works better overall for your overall health.

Speaker 2 Like, because if you're not eating a variety of foods, you might be missing out on some nutrients that you otherwise need. Like for me, forever, I would have like, I loved asparagus and chicken

Speaker 2 or like, you know, or asparagus and salmon. But like, I missed out on a whole, you know, rainbow of other vegetables that are really important.

Speaker 2 Literally rainbow, like in terms of literally rainbow, like all the colors. Like, I feel like it's really important to incorporate colorful foods into your diet.

Speaker 1 And again, this goes back to how we're built. Yeah.
Why do like candy companies and just food companies in general? So they just recently banned red, whatever the, whatever they're doing.

Speaker 2 Thank God, red dye.

Speaker 1 Red dye

Speaker 1 number 40, but they're just going to switch it to red dye number 39 or whatever. So I don't buy any of this shit, to be honest.
I'm not that excited about it.

Speaker 1 We're moving in the right direction, but like I'm not trusting the food companies and the food scientists

Speaker 1 to be my like health czar all of a sudden. But what I would say is, why do they force these dyes into food?

Speaker 1 Because it tricks your brain into thinking it's nutrients and your brain wants nutrients, especially for kids, but adults too.

Speaker 1 The reason why they are, why are they, why do you have to add color to these made-in-the-lab foods? Because otherwise your brain will be like, that's bullshit. I don't want that.

Speaker 1 That has no nutrients in it. But with the color, all of a sudden your brain's like, oh, give me some of that.

Speaker 2 Right. Well, I also think, though, though, people do that.

Speaker 2 I think that's also because if it looks good, people are, it's more enticing to you for sure because we're wired to to look at a restaurant visually yeah you know i recently went to a restaurant here i'm i'm really i'm so upset about this i i i really am like first of all i go to this this restaurant like at least five times a week for like this to me was like the thing that i i thought it was the cleanest version right like it was i get a chicken kebab and salad like and i loved it i loved the chicken okay and the garlic sauce on the side.

Speaker 2 And it was like, it's something that I felt like was the healthiest version, like at the restaurant. So I would, I would like force people to go with me.

Speaker 2 Like, and whenever I do go out to eat, the garlic sauce, like the white dips, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 My wife loves that stuff.

Speaker 2 I love it. I love the garlic sauce with the white.
Oh, it's good. It's good.
It's delicious.

Speaker 2 So I would literally force whoever I would be having like a meal with, I'd be like, let's go to this restaurant. Right.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 recently I found out, and the chicken is like, they grilled the chicken in front of you, like they put it on the bar.

Speaker 1 I think I know where this story is going to go.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, and I was like, I thought it was super healthy. Right.
And I asked them, I'm like, what's in the marinade? It's so delicious. And like, I like, I've asked a couple of times.

Speaker 2 And I got the basics the first time. Oh, it's olive oil.
We put some yogurt in it.

Speaker 1 Olive oil. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay. No, but then they told me that they're like, the one guy was like, and we use egg color number 40.
I'm like, huh? And he's like, I'm like, it wasn't. I'm like, isn't this saffron the color?

Speaker 2 I'm like, they're like, no, it's yellow egg 40. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes in the back.
I'm like, let me see what you're talking about. He brings out

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 food coloring that they add to the recipe to make it look yellow, to make it look like they're using saffron. Yeah.
Because saffron is a really expensive.

Speaker 2 Well, saffron's a really expensive spice, right? And I'm paying, like, the chicken.

Speaker 1 You can get Spanish saffron. It's cheaper, but yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, but the chicken scare is $22. It's not like it's so cheap, and I assumed that it was like a spice that they were using.
I told he broke my heart when he brought out the

Speaker 2 egg color number 40, like the egg

Speaker 2 to make it yellow. He is that in the chicken or the sauce in the marinade, no, in the marinade that he marinates the chicken in.
Yeah, and so it took me four people to get me to the actual answer.

Speaker 2 The first three people just said, oh, it's olive oil and lemon juice. They use all the basic ingredients.
So I thought, oh, great. But it was the actual guy who told me that.

Speaker 1 Even the olive oil. Look,

Speaker 2 wait, isn't that horrible?

Speaker 1 I'm going to say no. And the reason I'm going to say no is because, look, you have to get out of this idea.
And by you, I mean everyone, people listening.

Speaker 1 And I tell my clients, I tell my family, I tell everyone, like, you can't be so naive. Their job, the restaurant's job, food company's job, is not to make you healthy.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 1 Their job is to make them profit. And I understand that.
Like, I'm a businessman. I am not expecting them to make me healthy.
Okay, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 They are going to make as much profit for themselves as possible.

Speaker 1 So provided they're not overtly poisoning you and you don't never go back or give a bad review on Yelp or whatever, it's not going to hurt their bottom line.

Speaker 1 What they want to do is lower their expenses, meaning using cheap ingredients. So when they say olive oil, sure, it's olive oil.
Really, it's like pure extra virgin olive oil.

Speaker 1 No, chances are it's a blend of olive oil and canola oil. I walked past a very famous chain and I'm not going to say who.
Who?

Speaker 2 Can I say who?

Speaker 2 Why not?

Speaker 1 I'm going to crush people's souls. Okay, who? It's California Chicken Cafe.

Speaker 2 Oh, I love that place.

Speaker 2 I'm going to ruin everyone's day.

Speaker 1 So I walked past, and by the way, I love California Chicken Cafe, and from time to time, I still get it. But they were my neighbors, so I had a gym literally right next to them, and I knew everyone.

Speaker 1 And I walked past them.

Speaker 2 Tell me, tell me, I want to know.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to know this, but I had already known. I walked past, and I saw them loading the crates, and it said olive oil.
So they're loading their olive oil.

Speaker 1 And I looked and it's not even in fine print, but these are in big industrial crates that they get. And it said 75% canola, 25% olive oil.

Speaker 1 So it was an olive oil blend and it's three quarters canola oil, which is seed oil. Now, some people find this controversial.
It's not. Take it from me.
You shouldn't be eating seed oil, okay?

Speaker 1 Seed oil is the number one poison in the Western food supply. And it's the reason why Westerners are so fat and everyone else is not is because of seed oil straight up and down.

Speaker 2 Why do you think that?

Speaker 1 Why do I think that seed oil is so bad? Yeah, because it literally triggers the inflammatory process that leads to fat storage.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Let's quickly talk about a health issue that affects almost all of us. Fiber deficiency.
Did you know that 95% of people don't get enough fiber in their daily diet?

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Speaker 2 So that's really interesting. So I, that, see, to me, there's a, there's a fine line between being, is that deception? Because people are going to California.
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 People are going to California Chicken Cafe. My, for me, it's called the Peter Grill.
And I would go there all the time. And I was really, like, I thought I was like doing a healthy thing for myself.

Speaker 2 Like, I thought, like, this is like, I'm going here because I believed it to be the healthier option. I didn't think that they would be using that ingredient, like, food coloring.

Speaker 2 Like, to me, I think there is like a level of deception because people are going to these places because they think they're doing something healthy for themselves. I agree with you, though.
Like,

Speaker 2 it's not the restaurant's job to make me healthy.

Speaker 2 I hear that. And I think it's like their job is for their bottom line and for their profit.
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 But there is something to be said for these places that kind of position themselves as like healthy options. And then they're doing things that are kind of not that healthy.

Speaker 1 But they're all doing it. Okay.

Speaker 2 Like, just

Speaker 1 one of my life philosophies is I refuse to be a victim of any in any way, shape. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I feel any sense of victimhood in myself, I extinguish it immediately.

Speaker 1 And I see that with the, I see that with a lot of, a lot of people around food now. Oh, they're trying to poison us.
Oh, big, big farmer, you're right, big food. And

Speaker 1 they're all in it. And I'm like, all right, whatever.
Of course course they are they're it's a fucking business like honestly it's a sorry it's a no you're right

Speaker 1 it's a fucking business grow up like grow up like this is not their job it's your job you feed your kids what they should be feeding go and get an apple they're not poisoning the apples i mean i know they put wax and stuff on it but go wash the apple give your kid an apple stop buying things in a package and expecting just because there's a picture of a child with a rainbow over the top that it's healthy of course it's fucking not it's a picture i agree but this is where the fine line becomes, right?

Speaker 2 I believe that we all have to take ownership for our own health for sure, right? And I don't disagree with you what you're saying.

Speaker 2 I believe, though, that if someone is under the impression that they are doing something healthy for you and

Speaker 2 they're not outwardly giving you the facts,

Speaker 2 we should all be our own investigative journalists.

Speaker 2 And like, like, I didn't get to the bottom of what those ingredients were in that chicken skewer, how they marinate the chicken until I asked four different people.

Speaker 2 The first three people did not disclose the food coloring.

Speaker 2 And it's not like it's a recipe that they're like putting on the on the door saying, by the way, this is the rest, this is the ingredients, enter at your own risk. Right.

Speaker 2 So I had to like literally go to like the fourth person who then at least gave me the truth. I don't think that's fair.
Just like if at like the

Speaker 2 chicken cafe or wherever, they're saying to you, oh, you know what? We're using, we're using olive olive oil. But are they?

Speaker 2 I mean, it depends on what the law is. There's a deception piece.
There is a deception piece. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying you got to like make me healthy.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying that the restaurants, it's beholden on them. No, of course it's my responsibility, but at least like provide the facts to me and then let me make my own decision.

Speaker 1 Look, if I were the president, which I'll never be because I'm an immigrant. I'm not allowed to be president.

Speaker 1 But if I was president, I would pass a law stating, like, like saying that things like the olive oil thing would be illegal if you say it's olive oil has to be 100 pure olive oil but but i guess is but then again like not to get into the nuance right but technically no but then again it is technically all it is olive oil it's a it's a small percentage of olive oil yeah but they they omitted the fact that there's also seed oil it should at least be 51 but again like omission there are so it would it's so it will be years i think we should start moving in that process so i'm happy that we banned red whatever the hell it is but these companies are going to be as low as they can legally get away with, or at least that makes sense for their business.

Speaker 1 That's what you have to expect. You have to expect almost nothing from these companies because their job is to make profit.

Speaker 1 And we should change the law so that the low bar that we have, the extremely low bar, especially in America, in England, where I'm from,

Speaker 1 artificial food coloring has been banned for decades.

Speaker 2 I know, by the way, Canada too. This is a U.S.
Because it was linked to ADD. Yeah, there's a lot, but the thing is, is, like, that's a whole thing right now in the U.S., right?

Speaker 2 Like, things that are in the U.S., nutrition-wise, is not, they are adding all this shit to the food.

Speaker 1 Bar is on the floor. The FDA.

Speaker 1 What I will say is the FDA, I'm pretty sure, I think it's well known that they're a corrupt organization.

Speaker 1 So, I would probably, instead of going after each individual food company, I would look more at the structure of the FDA because their job is overtly not to make profit.

Speaker 1 Their job is to protect and serve and benefit the people. And so I don't think they're doing their job.

Speaker 1 So if I was to go after anyone, I wouldn't go after California Chicken Cafe because I don't think what they're doing is even illegal.

Speaker 1 I think I would go, A, it's more practical to go to the top and try to change the laws from the top.

Speaker 2 And B, they're saying they're trying to do that.

Speaker 2 That's like a big movement right now, is it? Because, yeah, I agree with you. Like they're adding things in the U.S.
They're not. And it has to come from a, it has to be from much more of the top.

Speaker 2 Nothing gets changed at the moment.

Speaker 1 I don't blame McDonald's.

Speaker 2 I blame FTA. Yeah, I understand that.
Okay, you guys, now I'm like even more angry because I would love to have a chicken kebab, and I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 1 I'll make you some chicken.

Speaker 2 Okay, thank you. Well, like I, like I said earlier, like, I don't like to eat every meal out, but when I do go out, I like to know that I like to believe that I'm eating.
Do your research.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do your research. That's what I would say.

Speaker 2 Like, and again, stay away from, you said another big mistake is you think a big thing thing is staying away from seed oils because it's such an inflammatory.

Speaker 1 That's the worst. If I were to give someone one nutrition tip, you know, it's stay away from seed oils.
100%. It's not just about fat.
It's about, it's linked to everything. You know, it's linked.

Speaker 1 People say that it's, and this sounds so dramatic, but I believe it.

Speaker 1 It's as bad, if not worse than smoking. Like it's linked to every, because it's, because fats are part of, like fatty acids are part of every single cell in your body.

Speaker 1 They make up essentially the structure of your body. If your fatty acid profile is wrong, it makes sense that every single process in your body is going to be affected negatively by that.

Speaker 1 And seed oils are super high in omega-6s,

Speaker 1 which is a fatty acid that gets basically represented in every single cell in your body. So it can affect anything and everything.
And it's rampant in us.

Speaker 1 There's a reason we love fats and our body absorbs fats. We need fats.
But if you have the wrong fats,

Speaker 2 it will kill you.

Speaker 1 And if you have the right fats, it will do the opposite.

Speaker 2 How dramatic! What a dramatic ending! So, everyone, stay away from seed oils and watch your portions. Yeah,

Speaker 2 thank you. Have a great one, guys.
Bye-bye.