The Mailbag: A Freudian Outlet

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Just a quick question before I get into my reason for writing to you.

Do you think it's possible that miners have ever murdered the canary to get an early finish?

It could make for a good episode of Columbo if they ever remake it.

First of all, I don't think it would.

That's quite funny, though.

I work in a job that involves dealing with men and helping them to stop acting like dicks.

A lot of this work relates to gender violence and toxic masculinity.

It's often depressing speaking to young men in particular and the influence that pricks like Andrew Tate have.

We're all aware of the shite he talks when it comes to gender and masculinity.

I'd like to get your thoughts on my idea of how to encourage him to have a more respectful attit wait convince Andre Tate to have a more respectful attitude towards women.

I'm thinking that the thing which might get through him would be for a woman to boot fuck out of him on camera.

It could be a televised event and the young men who are influenced by him and his MMA background could then have the opportunity to see him taken down a peg or two by a bird.

I know violence isn't cool, but he's a total dick.

That's not true.

That's very cool.

Would you have any thoughts on possible female opponents to boot as boss?

Cheers, James A.

I mean, mean he's an mma fighter

uh it's a bit like it's a big ass did you see that film i think i've seen the last two minutes the last ten minutes of this film and it's steve carell as a misogynist tennis player and then on the other side it was

a red-headed actress we're gonna look up who it is so someone just called someone a redhead you say it in a raymond chandler voice it's fine a redhead

it wasn't wimbledon it wasn't Borg vs.

McEnroe, it wasn't Challengers.

It's called Battle of the Sexies, Emma Stone, and Steve Carell.

Battle of the Sexies.

There was this big, famous in the 1970s, this misogynistic retired tennis player said, I could beat any woman and one of the best tennis players of the day at a big match.

This seems like the MMA equivalent of that.

But

due to weight

differences, due to testosterone differences, all that stuff,

we're not going to be able to do what she suggests we Andrew Tate and we need two

trans Tyson Fury

and we get

trans Tyson Fury in there and he just rattles fuck out.

I think anybody just kicking fuck out him would be good.

That would be yeah.

It doesn't need to be a woman or a

group of women.

A group of women.

I'd like to see ten.

I do think this kind of seems like do you not think it would be good to get a woman to kick fuck out this guy?

To me

a lot of these a lot of these uh

letters seem to be kind of um

fantasy

um

coddling mommy even killing the budget at the start yeah that was the fucking checkered flag being dropped in our sex fantasy but um

I'm a pacifist, I just don't think any of that stuff.

People go, you know what, he needs is a smack in the mouth, you know, that's something Disney work.

Do you know what I mean?

And in fact, it just creates a fucking climate that you don't want to be a part of.

I just,

and even fantasies of violence, I know we try and do it in a comedy way

constantly fantasizing about violence.

Yeah.

But are things okay if they're just funny?

I mean, I think they're meant differently if they're funny.

Like, I don't really think that would be a good idea, but you know, to get a trans ties in fury.

But

you know what I mean?

I can suggest that because it's ridiculous in this way.

Because I think on some level

she might think actually it would be a good thing.

And it very probably wouldn't.

What do you do?

Somebody like this, you know what I mean?

Andrew Tate, they're big.

But there are enough things that can be changed without focusing on things that very probably can't be changed.

So it's always people like, what would you do with Tommy Robinson or something?

You're like, no, who cares?

It's an intractable problem, but like there's loads of people who listen to him that are like

should listen to something, you know, that would help.

You know, it can be diluted.

Do you think it's a kind of straw man argument?

People are like, the reason people are listening to this

Tommy Robinson or Nigel Farage is because there isn't another compelling argument being made in the mainstream.

Like, if you let these cunts on TV

and people go, well, that's the guy on TV, so I can listen to him.

Whereas the opposite end, there isn't really you're not allowed on question time if you're the antithesis of Farage, are you?

Sure, I mean, that's true.

I mean, yeah, I mean, to an extent, they're kind of living in the fucking hell they've built of platforming these people and not platforming, you know, people with more constructive fucking stuff to say.

But

there's always that thing, and sometimes you think it like, so like you could have an angle on a joke going and sell stuff.

Men have always been cunts, right?

But it's just not

particularly

helpful to look at it that way, you know?

And so there are kind of self-edits you do.

Do you know what I mean?

As you come along, as you're writing shows and stuff, where you go, Yeah, there's a funny angle there, but it's maybe not great.

Sure.

We've answered that.

Yeah, would you have any thoughts on possible women to kick fuck?

I would say just um there's a lot of videos down on there for stuff like that, James.

That's all I care.

Certainly.

Um

it does a lot of the letters it does have I know we joked about it being a confessions book but it does seem like people are kind of purging the

f sexual fantasies.

But then wait till you get into Freud man and like everything is that.

It's not just mailbags.

It's not just the male thing.

What do you mean?

Give me an example.

Like we're constantly expressing subconscious desire

and we're p we're constantly in a kinda um

three-way tug of war between various different aspects aspects of the psyche.

Like what?

Like what are they?

Yeah.

The superego, the ego, and the id.

The Rangers of Celticness and Mariner.

Exactly.

If you've not heard the previous episode, that will seem like a really strange thing for us to game.

Could you give me an example?

Well, without going into what Freud is, here's an interesting thing.

He said this.

Turns McKenna.

He said a taboo

is society's map of what it's okay to be neurotic about.

Right.

That's an interesting idea, isn't it?

Yeah.

And taboos change and shift over generations

because we go, this is okay, that isn't okay, blah, blah, blah.

And they're expressions on a social level of neurotics, fears, and desires.

Right.

Can you give an example of a taboo that's drifted into acceptance or away from acceptance?

Nudity.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

Now we have on-screen nudity.

In Victorian times,

any kind of sign of flesh would have been seen as an ankle.

It's just extreme provocation.

Yeah.

Now,

Daddy's this.

Diddy's that.

He's afraid of the big black bat, you know.

Well, there you go.

Jamesy,

I hope that your Freudian

outlet has been in some way.

I hope the response to it has been satisfied in some way.

Do you think the miners killed a canary to get an early finish?

I would just hope that they would have respect for the sanctity of life that God put into that weak bird.

You don't want to be the guy that killed a canary wolf.

Do you know what I mean?

And they're like, you're all like, no, it's fucking dead this time.

You're like, you've killed three of those this week.

And then you're in the platoon of

called platoons, famously.

Your entire mining platoon was blown to fucking pieces due to your kind of like

proto-serial killer fucking um

what do you call a group of miners?

A murder, a murder of minus men, a bunch of men, a man of miners down there.

There you go.

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