The Truth Behind “Overnight Success”, Ilona’s DMs & Wanting to Be Kissed

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Speaker 1 A guy who's played basketball up until high school as an adult, he'll be like, yeah, I can coach my kids' basketball team. Yeah.
A woman will be like, I didn't go to the WNBA.

Speaker 1 I didn't play D1, so I don't think I can coach this middle school basketball team. Like, we are always going above and beyond to be over-qualified for things.

Speaker 1 Let's realize we have worked for it, we deserve it, and we're supposed to be here.

Speaker 1 And yeah, there's doubt can creep in, maybe some insecurity can creep in, but you're where you're supposed to be, and you got there through all that you did. Flip that.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to House of Marr, a wave original presented by Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra. This is your host, Olivia Marr, and yesterday I saw her cut a burrito in half because she's intuitive eating.

Speaker 1 And then we went and got a donut.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 that's.

Speaker 1 I didn't tell you to put all that out. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I'm going through something, guys.

Speaker 1 This is your host, lover of the St. Trinian's cinematic masterpiece movie soundtrack, Adriana Marr.
It's a masterpiece. It is, everyone should listen to it.

Speaker 1 And this is your host, Alona Marr. You've heard of bird watching.
She does sea lion watching. Love sea lions.
I think spirit animal. For real.
Pupping season. They bark.
They're loud.

Speaker 1 They sleep for most of the day.

Speaker 1 Love the sun. They just hang out, you know, and they're always close together.
I love them. Twin flames.
Twin flames.

Speaker 1 That's my twin flame is there there's like a season for it in san diego that you go to i go every i go whenever i can i go there it's in la jolla and i post up and i watch them watch my my boys you just get like a coffee and go watch yeah they're very interesting the seals and the sea lions one time i was on a date with a guy and he was like no there's only there's only sea lions down there i was like you're wrong buddy i've read the plaques

Speaker 1 That's those are sea lions because they're barking and they have a certain way about them. Those are seals over there.

Speaker 1 He didn't know a thing.

Speaker 1 Do you just know this is from the plaques or did you also i've done my research for sure what is the difference between the two like if there's um a lot of differences thanks for asking sea lions for example bark very noisy they have a certain look about them like for myself i can tell of course but what is it can they have bigger um fins here right so they can be up more sea lion seals are more like um they're round and tinier fins which one's a gentler animal seals seals yeah sea lions

Speaker 1 sea lions or seals are the ones that people that like sailors used to confuse for mermaids. Which one was it? Like on rocks.
Probably sea lions from how they stand up, right?

Speaker 1 I don't remember that. Maybe both sea lions.

Speaker 1 Anywho.

Speaker 1 Coming up on today's episode of House of Marr. For tea time, we talk about Alona's quote-unquote overnight fame, imposter syndrome, which I don't have.
And dressing for your body type.

Speaker 1 We have a sister settle at submission about being caught in the middle of Warring Sisters. So stay tuned.

Speaker 1 Alona, you've been building and growing for quite some time with definite giant jumps in the past year. How has that fame affected you, Adriana? I'm so glad you asked, actually.

Speaker 1 My day-to-day is incredibly different. Yeah.
Like, I can't walk down the street without someone recognizing me. Like, hey, you're that rugby player's sister, right? Right.
So they clock the shoulders.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's been difficult, but Alona, really, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Wow. Welcome.

Speaker 1 How has it affected you, actually? I know. Thank you so much for asking.

Speaker 1 I got recognized at the pharmacy.

Speaker 1 By the pharmacist. By your crew.
You picked up that rash cream. I was picking up.
Yeah, exactly. It was right up, right about, right around there.
Right. On the rash eye.
Right on.

Speaker 1 She, I was like, one rash cream, please. And she was like, are you Alonamar sister? Sure, you're my sister.
That's crazy. You know, that happened to me when I was getting a COVID test once.

Speaker 1 I was checking in and she looked up and she was like, are you related to Alonamar? And I was like, there's a line behind me. This is HIPAA.

Speaker 1 Speaking of that, though, you remember that time when that my

Speaker 1 I was checking my other people's time I was posting on their stories one time this lady posted a picture of me on her story and was like I used to wax her in San Diego I used to do like her Brazilian I did her Brazilian wax in San Diego

Speaker 1 I was like this has to be hippa this like has to be some guy has to be some wrong I mean like I get that like she wasn't actively waxing you but you don't like disclose I was like oh my gosh I felt so violated she'd seen everything and she's gonna post

Speaker 1 me and now the strips you know legal accountant and the next one

Speaker 1 is that even legal i don't know we should really look into that if anyone can advise in the comments that'd be really

Speaker 1 thankful very like that's great that one scared me that's a bit spooky and then she remembered it she like clocked that yeah just say i haven't gotten one yet I haven't gotten what I haven't gotten a wax yet.

Speaker 1 I'm scared since then. You can't go back to her.

Speaker 1 Sunglasses and like a fake colour.

Speaker 1 Are you Lonamar? No, Olivia, actually.

Speaker 1 I think our voices are quite recognizable as well because the pharmacist like recognized my voice as being close to yours.

Speaker 1 Like she was looking down, then she heard my voice and like kind of looked at me. And then she said she looked at my file and saw the last name Mar.

Speaker 1 And she was like, oh my gosh, you alone Amar sister? And I was like, yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Recently, I got, are you Olivia's sister? By Olivia's nail lady.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right. And I was talking to you, she's like, and I was about to be like, yeah.
She's like, are you Olivia's sister? I was like, yes, I am.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, that girl from my old friend from college saw you guys in LA, came up to you, and you thought it was going to be like a fan. No.
No. You're Andreana Marr sister.
Right.

Speaker 1 From across the coast. I win.
Alona came home from that interaction. It was like, because I go to townhouse for my nails.
And so there's townhouses in England. And that's where I was going.

Speaker 1 And she clocked Alona on the street and was like, you're Alona Marr. You're Livia Marr's sister.
And you're like, I've never gotten that one before. Get used to it.
Get used to it. Humbling.
For real.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you do get recognized quite a bit, though. Like, it's quite a lot.
It's very, it's very exciting. It's also very vulnerable.
Like, you are constantly talked to and approached.

Speaker 1 In Bristol, I think I was like a little Bristol celebrity. Like, we went out the last night and I had just, I was constantly taking pictures, which I, which I don't mind.

Speaker 1 I think that people really feel like they're connected with me and feel like almost a,

Speaker 1 a bond with me. Like something they can't explain.
So they, they love coming up to me to take pictures.

Speaker 1 So I think I've, I've created this aura that I, you know, very inviting, come and take pictures with me. It does get to be a lot in a way at times.
Like I, I was, I get it.

Speaker 1 I got it probably like 50 times like in that night, just like when I was sitting down with friends, hey, can I take pictures with you? Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, so at times I'm, you know, I give myself a lot to them, but I also like, so

Speaker 1 I guess

Speaker 1 I feel very honored that they really feel this bond with me and that, that I've given them the impression that they can just come up and talk to me. But it definitely becomes a lot sometimes.

Speaker 1 I mean, we were finding it a lot in Bristol where people were just like

Speaker 1 coming to me and asking me for things. Like they, I would be just trying to get coffee and they'd be like,

Speaker 1 can I talk to you for a minute? And can you make this video for me, please? Can you do this for me, please? And then I was like, I'm just trying to eat my breakfast.

Speaker 1 And then I had it like a couple of times where like I went to this place, I didn't even eat anything.

Speaker 1 my friends were eating. And then as I'm leaving, she's like, can you make a video about our sausage roll? I was like, I didn't even eat your sausage.

Speaker 1 Why would I make a video about that? And so, and then it's hard to say no to them because sometimes it's like great causes, small businesses, really cool nonprofits or whatnot. So it's hard to say no.

Speaker 1 And I feel like I have to at times, but you don't want to be a bad guy, though. I don't want to be a bad guy.
You are so thankful and grateful and happy to meet these people.

Speaker 1 And I wonder if it's like maybe, I don't, I haven't gotten in L.A., but it's a different vibe in L.A., different vibe maybe.

Speaker 1 In other parts of America, like in Bristol, they didn't really know somebody who has such a social media presence and they put out videos all the time.

Speaker 1 So like, oh, why don't you just put out a video for us?

Speaker 1 And it's like hard because I want to be supportive, but

Speaker 1 I'm protecting my own self, my own brand.

Speaker 1 And I, I think that's something like we both can do better at you and I of like, no, she's not posting this video because we suddenly just like, okay, that's really nice, but we're also trying to have a meal here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think approaching you at a dinner table is a little too far. I would, I don't think I'd ever do that to like a celebrity or an influencer.

Speaker 1 I think if you're at a restaurant and like have they're obviously having a moment with friends, why would you interrupt that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like I hear you when it comes to like posting like for businesses and stuff, but

Speaker 1 and you said this before, you don't want to be seen as like a diva or like you're, you know, you're a woman too. So that there's like, you don't want to be seen as like a bitch.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so that's an additional added pressure of like saying no. How you come across.
And it's to the point too where like I you go forever.

Speaker 1 Like you're so good at it because you want to see these people too. And I'll do a vibe check with you and I'll be like, you good? Do you want me to kind of slow things down?

Speaker 1 You're like, no, no, I'm happy.

Speaker 1 But like you do so you you are so happy to talk to so many people to the point where i'm like oh my gosh like is she okay like you get you don't have to you can kind of just enjoy your night but when those people are like showing you love and you see the effect that you have on their lives like you are so

Speaker 1 you go above and beyond like from what i see and that's so admirable like you give a lot of yourself in those moments you know where i don't i don't want you to be the bad guy and have to be like no no but I don't know.

Speaker 1 But I think it's an interesting balance too of like you being the bad guy, but you're also building your own brand in a way too.

Speaker 1 So I think that's where I'm having trouble too, of like almost somebody being like more of a no, you know. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, I think people describe, try to describe this kind of come up and come up ands that you've had as an overnight success story, but it's not like you've been building for years.

Speaker 1 I've never thought of it as such. And everyone's like, are you, are you just shocked by what's happening? Are you, is this like so crazy? And I'm like, not really.
Feels right. I

Speaker 1 literally posted every day in between Tokyo and now, even before Tokyo, I was posting videos. Like in the start, I think February in 2021, before Tokyo, I started to post more videos.

Speaker 1 And then in Tokyo, I was posting videos. And then I was posting videos every day, growing my presence.
So when I got to the Olympics, I had like 600,000 plus followers on Instagram.

Speaker 1 And then I exploded more, but I did that to get to where I am, to get to where I can, you know, be making deals, having this and doing ventures like that.

Speaker 1 So it's never felt crazy, which is like also at times I feel like, because there are some overnight successes where people have just gone viral over one little meme, you know, or one little thing and they go viral and they, they go, you know, everything happens for them.

Speaker 1 I have been working on this. Like it wasn't just one moment for me where I said something in a mic and people were like, that's hilarious.
We're all going to make that person famous.

Speaker 1 It was me like constantly. putting this out, putting this out, putting this out.
So I just don't think of myself as an overnight success.

Speaker 1 I don't think I would be classed as that.

Speaker 1 I had to kind of, I'm I'm fighting tooth and nail in a way. I'm grinding for years.

Speaker 1 The several years long overnight success. Like I put my whole personality out online.
You've seen that thing where it's like, it takes 10 years to be an overnight success. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 And I think you, you fit into that role of like, you've been doing this for, how long have you been on the USA team? You know, seven years? Six, six years, and this is like an extra year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's, you know, you've been doing this.

Speaker 1 Like even if it hasn't been social media the entire time, it's still like you've been putting in so much work to be an excellent world-class rugby player player to then have a platform where you could showcase your rugby player.

Speaker 1 I was recently asked in an interview,

Speaker 1 you know, I do get emotional about everything. Like I'm just so proud of you and I'm so happy for you.
And that does make me emotional.

Speaker 1 But I was in an interview where I could tell they wanted me to be emotional about everything that was happening and, you know, what's going on with you and everything.

Speaker 1 But I didn't like feel it in that moment because to me, like, yeah, of course this should happen for you. You've worked so incredibly hard.

Speaker 1 Like, of course, like X, Y, and Z should follow because of what you've done. Like, I wasn't, it's not that I wasn't emotional.
I was just kind of like, yeah, no, of course. She deserves this.

Speaker 1 It's not like, oh my gosh, I'm just like, so blessed that this is happening to her. It's like, no, like, good.
Like, she

Speaker 1 absolutely

Speaker 1 was like that clip that went viral, the imposter syndrome clip.

Speaker 1 Um, I was like, thanks for posting that, CNN.

Speaker 1 Sorry. That

Speaker 1 made me look great. You guys, absolutely.
The reporter was a very nice lady. Yeah, yeah.
I was like, wonderful. Thanks for putting that out there, I guess.
I'm really, I spoke so well.

Speaker 1 Sorry for, yeah. But I think that's like the same thing.
It's like, oh, do you feel embostered about this? I was like,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 stop asking me that. No, and like you would not ask a man that.
You wouldn't ask a man that.

Speaker 1 And I literally just feel like it's just like crazy that they're just expected to have that after all that I've done, after all that I've worked. And you think I just don't feel deserving of it.

Speaker 1 And that's, I think, also a woman thing, though, too. Of like.

Speaker 1 We're forced this humbleness is sometimes forced on us to make us like no, you know, be humble. Like you be small.
You're, don't, you know, don't be too,

Speaker 1 don't, you don't want to know you're pretty. You don't want to know this.
You don't want to know that. Yeah.
It's just like

Speaker 1 to be asked that constantly. I don't think I'll ever be asked it again if I do.

Speaker 1 Great. I'll post it again.
Every reporter knows. Every reporter better know what's going to happen.
They've got one big group chat.

Speaker 1 Do not ask Alona about imposter syndrome. Well, do you guys have imposter syndrome?

Speaker 1 But that's interesting. Like, I guess I speak from the heart about it, but that's my own thoughts.
I guess I don't know. Do you guys ever feel that way? Like, if you were to be asked that question?

Speaker 1 I've definitely felt imposter syndrome in like certain cases, but not like a lot. Because again, I went to college for like,

Speaker 1 I did global studies in political science. And I, you know, I worked in data entry and development.
And that's what I then went into. So I kind of was like, yeah, this fits.

Speaker 1 Of course, I've studied this. I've worked this.

Speaker 1 There's like maybe some situations where it's,

Speaker 1 I've been in rooms where I'm with so many intelligent and and like world-class human rights leaders. And I'm like, why am I in this room?

Speaker 1 And I think that that's more of a realistic point of like, why do my little Excel sheets and yada yada? Why am I like in the conversation with them?

Speaker 1 But it's never been an overwhelming imposter syndrome feeling. I think I used to like definitely being a young professional kind of coming up.

Speaker 1 There's like always that worry of like, oh my gosh, I don't know enough. Oh my gosh, I don't, you know, I'm still learning.
I'm going to do it bad. I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 But I remember seeing this quote one time that was like, if you weren't ready for it, the opportunity wouldn't present itself. And I remember hearing that and be like, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 I can make it. I can figure it out.
Like, fake it to you make it or whatever. But I mean, I think we are, as women, sort of expected to have imposter syndrome and expected to feel like.

Speaker 1 I don't know, we're not deserving of what we've worked for, and which is exactly everything that you were commenting on in your small, very viral clip.

Speaker 1 But I think, yeah, that's just like kind of top to like, and then I started going, I've even had like bosses, like women above me who are like, does this email sound too aggressive?

Speaker 1 And like, even before she's done reading it, I go, would a man be asking himself that question right now about the email you're about to send? She'd be like, no.

Speaker 1 And like they would press send. So I love, I like looking at things from that mindset.

Speaker 1 Would a man feel he wasn't deserving of this position or undeserving of sending this email in this tone or without an exclamation mark here? No. So do it.
Like whatever.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's just thrown around too much imposter syndrome. It's just thrown around as something very very flippant, something easy to have.
I think that at times you can feel doubt about things.

Speaker 1 You can feel like, oh, that's, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm really in this room full of people. Like, that's, you know, a little bit, but

Speaker 1 to have a whole syndrome on it, you guys are deserving. Not just you, but I'm talking to the people as well.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're deserving. You've worked for it.
I tell a story of like for. Even like middle school basketball coaches, it's so funny.
A guy who's played basketball,

Speaker 1 you know, up until high school as an adult, he'll be like, yeah, I can coach my kids' basketball team. Yeah.
A woman will be like,

Speaker 1 I didn't go to the WNBA.

Speaker 1 I didn't play D1, so I don't think I can coach this middle school basketball team. Like we are always going above and beyond to be overqualified for things.

Speaker 1 At some time,

Speaker 1 let's realize we have worked for it. We deserve it.
And we're supposed to be here. And yeah, there's doubt can creep in.
Maybe some insecurity can creep in, but you're where you're supposed to be.

Speaker 1 And you got there through all that you did. Clip that wow,

Speaker 1 that's everywhere. Love that, love that, send it out, send that to CNN, send that to CNN.
Well, thank you, CNN. I love that.
Also, thank you for posting that. That was a nice interview.

Speaker 1 Do you ever feel the need to almost wear a disguise when you go out? That you're going to get recognized a little too much? I don't care. I mean, yesterday I was wearing, what was I wearing yesterday?

Speaker 1 You, like this light-esque giant sweatshirt from Adidas, like a very cool design sweatshirt that went down to her knees, which is hard to do. That's a big bitch.
You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 Big girl. Down here.
Big girl. And those chunky, ug things, the like horse hoof ones.
She was just stepping out in the town. When I realized shorts, too.
So it is just the zip up.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it looked like it was very Ariana Grande.
A la 2019.

Speaker 1 They were lollipops. Yeah, but when I realized she was leaving the house like that, I was like, live your truth.

Speaker 1 I don't care. Yeah.
I don't care if you want to take a a picture of me and I look like that. Even on our walk yesterday, I had a sweatshirt on that had a coffee stain on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I clocked it before we left, and I was like, you changing it? She was like, nope.

Speaker 1 It's quite like an Adam Sandler thing going on. I think I said that.
You did. I just don't mind.
I think like the thought of having to be styled all the time. I think I am in a way.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm a style icon, but I know how to dress for my body for what makes me feel good. But I do that when I need to do that.

Speaker 1 When I don't, I'm going to be comfortable and not have to do laundry that much. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So I don't think I'll change my style that much or like be prepared. Because also, guys, paparazzi, if you seem not actual big celebrities with paparazzi shots, they've called them.
Literally. Guys.

Speaker 1 That's not real.

Speaker 1 The paparazzi are being called. There's a secret for you in Hollywood.
People are calling paparazzi left and right. So I'm not calling them.
So I'm not worried of a paparazzi.

Speaker 1 If a paparazzi gets you when I'm out, I'll be like, what the heck?

Speaker 1 What are you doing here?

Speaker 1 So just know that.

Speaker 1 Besides, I don't need to dress up. Besides the Dancing with the Stars rehearsal studio, they'd be outside of there.
Even then, I didn't dress up for that. No, no.

Speaker 1 She was just smiling. I always had multiple things in my hand.
Yeah. The claw hands.
Maybe I should start calling paparazzi. Maybe that'd make me dress up better.
You get some more Instagram posts.

Speaker 1 Get some more Instagram posts. Alonamar is seen eating

Speaker 1 while her sister cuts with coffee stain.

Speaker 1 while her sister cuts in half and looks sad the whole time

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Speaker 1 I do think though we all kind of do it well where we dress for our body or like know what looks good on us, which is taking years. I'm still working with you.

Speaker 1 I'm still learning, but I think that that's something that we dress for where how we feel the most confident.

Speaker 1 So even if there's like a trend where it's like recently it'd be like baggy, like if there's baggy tees and this like the big jorts, like the big shorts, you put those on us? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Oh man, that is, that's, that's

Speaker 1 a sandler. Yeah, I can't be wearing that.
No, we see the trends. We respect the trends.
I respect them. We will not be doing those trends on our body.

Speaker 1 When I see someone doing the trend well, I'm like, wow,

Speaker 1 beautiful. Come at it.

Speaker 1 Is it a fit or is she skinny? Right. It's like classic.
Or broad. It's not going to work sometimes.

Speaker 1 For us, like, I, and that's my thing. Is I've also learned, like, I actually like tighter things.
I don't like things that make it boxy, that are like loose on me.

Speaker 1 Cause I think, like, with my shoulders, if it's boxy, it's just too, too, like, one-dimensional. So I love tighter things.
I like things that show off my arms and whatnot.

Speaker 1 I think you, you know, you both express yourselves in different ways as well. You've been getting into the low rise, though.
I have been getting into the low rise a little bit more. Hashtag brave.

Speaker 1 So I will say I did, at first I saw that trend and I was like, I'm never doing that. That's disgusting.
I can't be doing that. And now I'm like, belly's out.

Speaker 1 Show them off. 2025 belly's out.

Speaker 1 But I still like have to figure out how to mark because they're so loose. I think mom just lives in my brain because I have this freckle mole like an inch below my belly button.

Speaker 1 Not even, it's like quite below my belly button. That mom said my pants had to hit that

Speaker 1 to this day. Like, she would check my belly, like, the mole on my belly button to make sure that my pants hit there to this day.
I'm like, is my pants? Just recently, she was pulling my pants up too.

Speaker 1 When she was in LA, she was like, she was like, mom. She was pulling my pants up, and I'm like, mom, that's the

Speaker 1 low rise. It's not cool anymore.

Speaker 1 I still do the fingertip thing. Like, that was the rule.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Your shorts or skirts always had to be below them.
And so sometimes if, like, an item goes above that, I'm like, that's too risky on me. That's too risky.

Speaker 1 Thoughts on skinny jeans coming back?

Speaker 1 They say that now, but I wonder if I will be influenced.

Speaker 1 I could see you doing it. Personally,

Speaker 1 I could find a way to work it. Yeah, exactly.
I think I could. I think it's all in the shoes.
Personally, of like what you match it with. I'd see videos.

Speaker 1 Like, even when I moved to New York City in like 2018, I was wearing some quite skinny jeans, but none of them were ever really long enough on me too. So it's just not a good complexity.

Speaker 1 It was a big look for a while there.

Speaker 1 I was growing up. I've got gorgeously glorious, large upper thighs, and then I get quite delicate down here.
I also, yeah, it's... It doesn't work with a skinny jean.

Speaker 1 I might fall into it. Don't know how you fall into it.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I look back at those images of me in skinny jeans and I don't think it complements my body,

Speaker 1 but I'll try it. But the thing is, I don't think I'm going to go out and spend my money on a pair of skinny jeans.
So it would have to be like, you get a pair of skinny jeans that don't fit you.

Speaker 1 So I get it. One thing I've noticed of being more confident in how I present and how I dress is how much money I put into it.
Like I've always been an incredibly frugal person.

Speaker 1 Like I don't spend a lot of money when it comes to clothes and appearances.

Speaker 1 But now that like I've, you know, gotten older and my salaries were raising and stuff like that, like I could put in a little bit more.

Speaker 1 And I saw the value of like, if I spend 80 bucks for a pair of jeans and I know I'm going to wear the shit out of them. I'm going to feel so much better.
You better made money on that deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Like, price per wear,

Speaker 1 you're making money. That's me and my jeans.
Those things stand up on their own.

Speaker 1 And then sometimes Olivia and I share pants too. So, like, she'll wear it today, I'll wear it today, she'll wear it today.
To the point where, like, you leave those in a corner, they're walking away.

Speaker 1 Literally clapping out the window.

Speaker 1 You guys have like one closet at this point.

Speaker 1 The thigh area is gone.

Speaker 1 Are you going to miss her closet when she goes back to San Diego? Who? What do you think she's wearing right now?

Speaker 1 All of the shoes are yours. All of the shoes are yours.
But we do wear both. You wear a lot of my stuff.
She wears a lot of my stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we kept accidentally doing this thing in England where we'd buy something and be like, oh, we'll share it.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Like, we maybe split it once, and now we've like, we've each taken sides. We've taken custody of certain items, I think.
I hear you. Thoughts on skating jeans on men?

Speaker 1 and the crowd goes mild no big old no

Speaker 1 feel free to wear what you want and what you're confident in except if you're a man don't do that i don't i don't like a skinny jean on man i don't like seeing the contours of your leg i want to see your contours of your leg in a different context not under jeans what if they had nice legs

Speaker 1 wear shorts wear shorts thank you shorts wear shorts shorts like cool boy shorts i'm talking in the summer like little like are you against shorts on men?

Speaker 1 Well, I guess when I heard shorts, I thought like booty shorts. Also, I'm so.

Speaker 1 Also, in a different context, if this was a group of men on couches talking about women shorts,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 We got to stop giving women mics.

Speaker 1 Men, you can wear skinny jeans, but I think there is now an eve of...

Speaker 1 baggier jeans on men too. Yeah, that's great.
I'm excited. I'm pro-baggy jean on anyone.
It doesn't need to be too baggy. It just needs to be like nice.
Thoughts on barrel jeans?

Speaker 1 I feel like that's one that, because I like a baggy thing. I love a baggy jean with like a cute kitteny heel, slip-on, mule moment.
Barrel jeans, I would love to get on top of.

Speaker 1 I just don't know if that would work on my body. Barrel jeans? Barrel jeans.
Ones that go out like this, but they're straight in the middle. Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 Not with these hips. That would go crazy.
Not like these avocrombi curve gloves.

Speaker 1 I'd catch a wind and I start flying away.

Speaker 1 Sometimes, what

Speaker 1 my pants?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Some people look very cool in those.
I don't know, though.

Speaker 1 What we're getting at is, though, dress what makes you feel confident. For us, it is,

Speaker 1 I guess, now baggier jeans, but not too baggy of a jean.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 tiny. It makes our shoulders look good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And makes us feel like sexy, sexy. You like your shoulders and your back out.
Yeah. What do you like showing off? I do like a more rounded, like necklace.
Nikolatosh. Yeah.
Oh,

Speaker 1 but I do argue.

Speaker 1 I do like a long sleeve a lot. I feel better in a long sleeve.
Gorgeous. It's because my arms get really red.
So gorgeous. It's more covering and insecurity.
Sorry. That's okay.

Speaker 1 I love a cropped shirt. You do.
Because I think it is for my body. It accentuates things nicely.
It hits me right. It hits me right.
Depends on the crop, though, for sure.

Speaker 1 We also have places that we love to shop that really fit our body. So for me, I shop a lot at Reformation.
Everything I get fits my body.

Speaker 1 And then I shop a lot at Aritzia as well. And I love also getting free pieces from people.

Speaker 1 But I don't get as much now because I do feel I'm in this weird place where people want to send me free stuff, but I'm like, why?

Speaker 1 I can afford that. I buy that from you.
And like these small businesses are like, please, can we send you this? And I'm like, I'll send you. Send them my sizes.
I'll send them your sizes.

Speaker 1 But I do.

Speaker 1 I think it's like we're now trying to, I don't get as much free pieces as I used to because I just feel like I get too much.

Speaker 1 And also I want to get pieces I will wear and not just kind of consume things. I'm not going to wear it.
Be wasteful. Yeah.
Your closet's only so big. My closet is very tiny.
Very tiny.

Speaker 1 Ethical consumerism. Yeah.
That's me. Is there any ethical consumption under capitalism? Wow.

Speaker 1 And I should have been the one to say that.

Speaker 1 Andre, you missed it. She sounds good.
Yeah, you're fine.

Speaker 1 Have you gotten anything or like cami downs from us that you like? You recently said you got a jewelry thing thing coming yeah a jewelry brand

Speaker 1 she reached out and it was really lovely and then unfortunately like uh i think the address was wrong so it got sent back to england and so she had to reship it

Speaker 1 um so i've got pieces for you guys but that's been

Speaker 1 that's been me and the rest is hammy-downs but that's been my entire life is hammy downs from you guys like even our uniforms at our catholic school it was olivia's then it was zalona's so by the time it got to me it was like yellowed sorry about that

Speaker 1 it was just you know it's been awful i guess you like sweat or something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yellowed. Ew.

Speaker 1 But nowadays, we've gotten past the yellowed shirts, and I get everything that really doesn't fit you. You don't wear one shirt.

Speaker 1 Dude, I remember this one white turtleneck and the white

Speaker 1 turtleneck. That is love.

Speaker 1 That is totally honest. Sorry about that.
You guys aren't light sweaters.

Speaker 1 No, it's true. Big sweater.
Something about a turtleneck IB sweat in the nose.

Speaker 1 But no, this. Oh, wait, no, these are Abercrombies.
I love an Abercrombie. I love an Abercrombie, but too many of my jeans are Abercrombies.

Speaker 1 And I recently got a Reformation pair that I love, and it fits really well. There's a little bit of gapping in the back, but that's kind of

Speaker 1 skinny or waist.

Speaker 1 Have you seen Adrana? She got blown away with the barrel jeans. With the barrel jeans.
She's came driving down the street. Through yellow armpits.

Speaker 1 oh my gosh

Speaker 1 i love abacromi jeans they fit me just like the best and i truly have a good amount of them because that's just my main outfit i love just like the jeans and a top jeans and a cute top and they're pretty affordable and they're quite affordable for how long they last and how good they look after you know couple a bunch of wears you do gotta feel like Give them a wash with a bit of a dry, tighten them back up a bit.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? But I love them. I love rest formation.
It all fits very well, surprisingly. Like you look at some of the stuff and I'm like, oh, I don't think it'll fit.

Speaker 1 And then it's like sisterhood of the traveling sustainable clothing. It fits so good.
And then what else? I love anything that Alona doesn't want anymore. I love a hammy down.

Speaker 1 I love, there's something about a hammy down that just feels better, fits better. And I've felt that way my whole life.

Speaker 1 Like babysitters that would gift us clothing, like cool jeans and stuff that they would wear, those were like my most treasured possessions. I loved wearing them.

Speaker 1 So I think about those a lot. I was recently, I had a, spent like an hour in Aritzia dressing room.
Only came out with three things, but this is it. One of them.

Speaker 1 Were two of them black tops, maybe? Were two black tops to do your three things?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I needed new basics. I was doing a shadow tell to my roommate and I pulled out the first black top and she's like, don't you have enough black tops? And I was like, wait till you see this.

Speaker 1 I turned around and she goes, oh.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh. I'm trying to get more into dresses.
That's my new goal for this year. Like, like for the summer? For the summer, yeah.

Speaker 1 Where are you starting in that journey? My newly. That's where I get everything because I find I just, when I'm shopping in person, like, where's all the cool stuff? Why is it all basics? Right.

Speaker 1 And I want something that's like really unique. And I can find those on newly.
And I've got some coming in that hopefully will fit. That's the problem.
Fingers crossed there.

Speaker 1 Well, Lono, people love asking you,

Speaker 1 like, who's the most famous person in your phone or in your DMs? Or do you get starstruck? But I feel like you don't really, right? You're kind of.

Speaker 1 I think I'd get starstruck if, like, Queen Latifah was in my DMs. Right.
I'd be like, what are you doing here? Girl. This is crazy.
You love her. I love her.
I love her movies.

Speaker 1 I love who she is, this person.

Speaker 1 So I'm from music as well. Maybe because of who I am, because I'm like, that's just a regular person.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like everyone gets starstruck around me. I'm like, I'm just a regular person.
So I don't think anything of it. Yeah.
I've had some famous people in my DMs who I'm like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 1 Are you lost? What you just said the nicest thing about me. I've had, especially during the Olympics, a lot of people came out and said such nice things about me.

Speaker 1 But I also don't like to just be like, yeah, this person said this about me and like, tell. So like, because it was an interaction between the two of us.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And like they didn't send it to be out there. So I've had some really cool ones.
You guys know some ones where I was like, you guys are never going to be, you guys are going to freak.

Speaker 1 And she says it so casually. She's like, yeah, look who just stemmed me.
What are you? Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. But it's all usually very nice.

Speaker 1 People, I don't get many.

Speaker 1 I get like some dating DMs, but nothing that really, I thought it would be better. I thought it would be more.

Speaker 1 You were recently, I mean, people, obviously, will sometimes DM on like the dating side of stuff, but you were recently written a handwritten letter, right?

Speaker 1 Which sounds like it could be scary. Right.
But actually was very nice. And this guy also attached, he made

Speaker 1 friendship bracelets as well.

Speaker 1 I was like, whoa, I, you know what? I need, I will, I will message him. Where's that letter at? It's probably in Bristol.
No, it's somewhere. It was very nice.

Speaker 1 So I think that's very, really, like, he really put in the effort there.

Speaker 1 And so I like stuff like that. I get a lot of DMs.
Like, I recently did a post where I was like,

Speaker 1 one of my friends sent me up with somebody eligible and really hot. Wait, how'd that go? I got a lot of DMs by like people who fit maybe one of the requirements.

Speaker 1 But nothing too crazy. Joey Grazadeh, like, I think made a funny face to it.
And I was like, I'm talking, I'm looking at you, boy. No, literally, you especially.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at you, buddy Bachelor Nation over there. He's got hot friends.
How do you start putting in some work? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gosh, your friends. I thought I'd be set up on more blind dates at this point.
I thought my friends would be helping me out more. Do we not do that anymore? Do friends not set friends up?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. House party culture, dead.
I feel like that's where people are. Everyone always has a friend.
Never follows through. Oh, wow.
You've got half a date lined up, don't you? Yep.

Speaker 1 We'll see. Yep.
What can I say? What is the plan so far? Yankee Stadium. Oh, yeah.
I love a Yankees game. Yankees.
Silent City.

Speaker 1 That's so cool. But it's tough because we actually started talking like a month ago or something.
And then I was in Bristol and then I was back. And then I was like, I'm free these days.

Speaker 1 It wasn't going to go to the Yankees, but just something else. And then he was like, I can't.
And I was like, well, I'm going to be gone for two and a half weeks. So we'll see.
That's it.

Speaker 1 That's all I've got. Will you down a hot dog in front of him? Or three.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think that actually would work in your favor. Absolutely.
And a cut water margarita.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe I shouldn't finish, actually. Careful.

Speaker 1 Maybe you should. Careful with the music.
We switch it up a little bit. If I'm having one of these, you got to have two tall boys of beers.

Speaker 1 No, literally. That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 I'm proud of you, John. Abuse.
You were trying to be on a journey of doing more dates. Yeah.
Do we want to talk about that?

Speaker 1 I had.

Speaker 1 Well, we can talk about another episode. Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 I've just never felt like a strong desire to date. Like, I would love to be in a relationship, but I just

Speaker 1 like, why would I put so much time into like dating apps and having to text someone I don't even know and yada yada yada? And it's never been on my like radar to be like, I should check hinge.

Speaker 1 It's just kind of like, I have to force myself really to do it. Just like, just look.
I have to have a friend with me swiping. It's not that I'm against dating.
Need a supervisor.

Speaker 1 I need weekly check-ins, actually.

Speaker 1 Coordinator. That's what she needs.
Are you available? Sure. I got another sister that's going to be a little bit of a shit a couple days.

Speaker 1 Will you, Olivia?

Speaker 1 Do we want to talk about your dad?

Speaker 1 Another episode. Another.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 I've been fine. How have yours been?

Speaker 1 Dry. Dry, yes.
Just nothing going on. And I like it.

Speaker 1 But she hasn't been trying either.

Speaker 1 She only, like, a couple days ago was like, maybe I'll get on an app, like started to have the thought in her mind. But she's still still like

Speaker 1 i don't know i just really like what i'm doing i'm doing me right now i'm still like i mean we're quite busy we're all over the place there's a lot going on someone would need to be okay with that but i'm also just still not yet in a place where i want

Speaker 1 to bring someone into all of it i'm kind of being selfish with my time that's what i'm doing

Speaker 1 hong kong you're going to new york you're doing all this stuff and i kind of love it you know uh be nice to have a crush to go crazy over

Speaker 1 i would love i what are you what are you saying i think I would like to be kissed. I literally wrote in my journal in England on one of the darkest days.

Speaker 1 I was like, I think I should like to be kissed.

Speaker 1 I'm not even kidding. It's like J9 on my journal.

Speaker 1 Like, pride and prejudice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Touch the

Speaker 1 sense of sensibility.

Speaker 1 Emma.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, we're not there yet.
But one day. I imagine we all have very similar types, though.
Yeah. 6'4.

Speaker 1 I don't, I'm not the biggest high person. 6'4?

Speaker 1 6'4.

Speaker 1 From Kentucky. We can give the short kings that might get picked up by a horse.
How are they? To her.

Speaker 1 Sorry. I just find sometimes that really tall guys haven't had to work on their sense of humor.
Yeah, right. I hear you.
Their personality. And I know it's like an insecurity of mine.

Speaker 1 That's really like why I'm like, I would love to be tall. I just want to feel tiny.

Speaker 1 I hear you. And by short, I mean like 5'10, guys.
I'm not,

Speaker 1 she's not crazy. You know, my height.
Right, right. But I have been looking, loving the look of like Tom and Zendaya when they like, they're, I'm like, wow, that's so cool.

Speaker 1 Because it is, like, the man has to have a lot of confidence for that. And that's hot.
I love that. Confidence is hot.
So what we're saying is, man, don't be 5'9.

Speaker 1 Don't wear

Speaker 1 me to say 5'9?

Speaker 1 I'll take you 5'9. No, I'm not that biggie now.
Come to that age. I'll take you.

Speaker 1 Better now than later, Lona. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think like humor is huge for us because humor is a sign of intelligence and like being able to just like have a fun conversation because we love knowing things. We're a very inquisitive bunch.

Speaker 1 Inquisitive. We're a family of know-it-alls.
We are know-it-alls.

Speaker 1 If you go on a walk with us,

Speaker 1 I ask a lot of dot-like questions. Like, what do you think? Oh, my gosh, look, there's four electric meters on that house.
We must have four units in here.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Come here, look at this.

Speaker 1 Where do we think the division is? What do we think they're paying around here? Yeah, that's actually an extension. What do you think that is? An oak?

Speaker 1 Why is there this many leaves growing like this? What do we think? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We love putting pieces together, pattern recognition. Yeah, very inquisitive.

Speaker 1 Actually, one time I had a friend date, and we went to the Met, and we were in like the Greek section, and I read the Percy Jackson books front to back several times.

Speaker 1 And it was my moment to shine, and I don't know how to shut up. And so I was just spewing everything to her.
Luckily, she was eating it up. Oh, totally.
And she was interested in it, too.

Speaker 1 And she, like, a few months later, she was like, yeah, I thought you were so smart. Like, you knew so much of the Met.
And I was like, because we were in the Greek mythology section.

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Speaker 1 Let's cool it off today with Sisters Settle It. Need advice or just want to share a sisterly struggle? Send us a DM or a voice note at House of Mar for a chance to be featured on the show.

Speaker 1 We have a listener submission today from Amy. I've got a good sisterly struggle.
I'm in the middle of three sisters.

Speaker 1 I get along with both, but my younger and my older sister don't always get along with each other. We have a great time, all three, but they have their limits with each other.

Speaker 1 Anytime there's a a disagreement, I'm always stuck in the middle. I get one phone call and then another.
What do you do when you don't get along?

Speaker 1 My sisters are very much alike and they just don't admit it. This is very interesting.
I actually think this is very much like our family, but you do get along.

Speaker 1 But the thing is, you two are extremely alike.

Speaker 1 Extremely alike.

Speaker 1 Which I wonder

Speaker 1 that's interesting because I would say I'm the peacekeeper. Would you say that? I would say, who do you think is peacekeeper out of all? I don't think you, I think, just because.

Speaker 1 Who am I fighting with? You're just, no, no, I'm saying you're a peaceful person. So, like, you just seem to be like a peacekeeper, but you don't actually do anything to mitigate.
Oh, maybe.

Speaker 1 No, when you two sometimes get after each other, you know what I when do we get after each other? And what do you do to help? Yeah, just stand there and watch. We do yourself.

Speaker 1 Hey, Jonna, I have your back a lot, but she gets mean. That's because you know she's not being fair

Speaker 1 and she's being annoying and not good to work with

Speaker 1 fine

Speaker 1 i i think i am i hate the way i'm you are good like in the moment but i think we don't think so that's fine

Speaker 1 i'm never gonna stick up for you ever again i'm never gonna stick up for you ever again whenever you say you stuck up for her no i do that all the time i used to do recently when you you you know when you quit back when she's like and then you quit back for something sometimes and then it's you do you all record that olivia you're a great defender and i really appreciate that

Speaker 1 but i think like a mitigator or the in-between often does fall to Olivia. But who's she mitigating for? Like, sometimes if you do something that really annoys me, I go to Olivia.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you don't come to me? Yeah. And then she yells at me for not going to you and tells me I should go to you.
Give me an example. Recently, what I did.

Speaker 1 It was after the Olympics, and you were yelling at me to go talk to her. I don't know.
I forget what you did. I think saying yelling at is aggressive.
We don't really yell. We just get.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 They can't even tell. I'm perfect.
No, because it's just, nothing's ever that big where it like lingers. But sometimes you do stuff where I'm like, we're quite mature about it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Alona just like isn't doing this. And oh, it's annoying me.
And Olivia's like, why are you telling me this? Like, you have to go like address this with Alona. It's not going to do anything.

Speaker 1 And I think you are the peacekeeper. And especially when it comes to, if I ever get annoyed at like mom and I'm like, and mom sent this and yada, yada.
You like to like show both sides. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, mom, you know, like she was raised this way. And so this is maybe why she thinks that.
And she's just wanting to protect you. Like you're almost a devil's advocate for whoever we're angry at.

Speaker 1 right but i think we all do that a lot yeah but like you like you're saying you do because she's such a neutral party though so like if you need you want no holds what's it called no bars hold no no bars held no no bar what's it

Speaker 1 no holds barred go to alona she will tell it to you so straight up I love being honest with my friends. I love it.
I love crushing their spirit when they're being delusional.

Speaker 1 Sometimes her and our best, her best friend and I, Nicole, will come together and be like, man, Alona's being like really straight up about something.

Speaker 1 And I kind of want to just live in delusion for a while. Like, I don't know.
If you don't want someone to lean into your fantasies with you, do not go to Alona. No.

Speaker 1 She's here to tell it to you straight. Sometimes I'll like be like, Alona, I'm so worried about this.
And yada yada. And she's like, why would he be? Why? It makes you feel like a little ridiculous.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, fuck. Why am I being

Speaker 1 right? It's like, that's, she's like, that's dumb to think about it that way. And you're like, it is dumb to think about it that way.
I think we are all very blunt. Like, and that is a Dutch trait.

Speaker 1 Everyone is very blunt, a little mean sometimes, but honest.

Speaker 1 And I think Alona might have that the most. Like,

Speaker 1 I'll be ideating on something, like, stressing and like stress, like looping on something. And I'm like, I can't get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 And then I'll present it to Alona, and she will have the most simple, like, duh solution.

Speaker 1 Just hearing at the end of it, I'm like, God, she's okay. She's good.

Speaker 1 She's good. She is.
Now try helping myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, she refuses to do that. She will help others, but not me.
Sorry, Amy, back to your thing.

Speaker 1 Amy, baby. Okay, that's an interesting one because I, so back to you guys, you guys are very alike, but you do get along.
There are moments where you can get after each other.

Speaker 1 Growing up, we got after each other a lot because of how similar we were. And mom and dad would always say, like, well, they're so similar.
I'm like, I'm nothing like that, bitch.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding? And then growing up, I was like, we are exactly alike, huh?

Speaker 1 But that's why we would fight. It's like, I, we were so similar is that, like, you would be about to do something and I'd be like, don't do that.
Because I, my brain works the way yours work.

Speaker 1 And then you do it. And then you get mad at me and be like, I don't do, you know.
And now you always get mad at me

Speaker 1 when it's something that you would do to me. Like,

Speaker 1 this is interesting. I'm like, you'll say something and be like, Olivia, if you said that to me, or no, hold on,

Speaker 1 it's the math on that. That's got me confused.
It's like, you're like, you would do something to me. I'm like, if I ever did that to you, Olivia, you'd lay me out on the fucking floor.

Speaker 1 Like, probably for good reason. No, like, do as I say, not as I do.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Amy.

Speaker 1 Amy. Listen.
Listen, Amy. I think with the one phone call thing, so now we know that Ajana goes to Olivia like a little baby and cries when I make her mad.
And that's the problem right there.

Speaker 1 I think you have to be like, why are you telling me this?

Speaker 1 Go tell our other sister. And Olivia goes, why are you telling me this? Go tell Alona.
And we're all quite mature about it too. It's like we can.
We can each hear and go on from there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't hold grudges really. And if we do, we're just silent for a little while.

Speaker 1 And then we just give each other space then we come back i think space is a key thing like space is key i gotta read this again we kind of got a little off track yeah how do we help i think can you have like a group call is there a way to like let them talk and be because that's not that's not an easy job being in the middle that's exhausting that's tiring they want you to probably pick sides and that's not that's not going to help anybody like you should they should want to be able to fix things with each other instead of trying to get you onto either of their sides and i think as you in the middle you be a, don't pick a side, like you said.

Speaker 1 Like you, when you listen, be like, say it like Olivia would say it from her be devil's advocate. Well, what is she thinking?

Speaker 1 Because I think that's when it is you're you're exploiting a vision like, okay, well, I got you on my side now. Like come at it from nobody's side, be Switzerland.

Speaker 1 and like kind of share the two sides of it.

Speaker 1 And then do what I guess each of us does, which is, okay, great that you were able to talk it out with me, but now take it to them and make sure that you guys are coming from a place of love and both wanting to fix the problem with each other.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, you're not going to get anywhere and you're fighting just to fight and feel power over the other. And that's not nice.
Very nice. That's beautiful.
Anyway, I got beef.

Speaker 1 Beef too there. No, I got beef with both of you now.
Don't stop defending me all. And I'm calling Olivia later

Speaker 1 about you. Hey.

Speaker 1 I'm in my bathroom and you guys are knocking on either doors.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Amy.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that helped. I think it actually caused problems between the three of us.

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