The Truth Behind “Overnight Success”, Ilona’s DMs & Wanting to Be Kissed

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A guy who's played basketball up until high school as an adult, he'll be like, Yeah, I can coach my kids' basketball team.

Yeah, a woman will be like, I didn't go to the WNBA.

I didn't play D1, so I don't think I can coach this middle school basketball team.

Like, we are always going above and beyond to be overqualified for things.

Let's realize we have worked for it, we deserve it, and we're supposed to be here.

And yeah, there's there doubt can creep in, maybe some insecurity can creep in, but you're where you're supposed to be, and you got there through all that you did.

Flip that.

Wow.

Welcome back to House of Marr, a wave original presented by Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra.

This is your host, Olivia Marr, and yesterday I saw her cut a burrito in half because she's intuitive eating.

And then we went and got a donut.

That was interesting.

that's i didn't tell you to put all that out that's crazy

i'm going through something guys um

this is your host lover of the saint trinian's cinematic masterpiece movie soundtrack adriana marr it's a masterpiece it is everyone should listen to it

and this is your host alona marr you've heard of bird watching she does sea lion watching love sea lions i think spirit animal for real pupping season they bark They're loud.

They sleep for most of the day.

Love the sun.

They just hang out, you know, and they're always close together.

I love them.

Twin flames.

Twin flames.

That's my twin flame.

Is there, there's like a season for it in San Diego that you go to?

I go every, I go whenever I can.

I go there.

It's in La Jolla.

And I post up and I watch them.

I watch my boys.

You just get like a coffee and go watch.

Yeah, they're very interesting.

The seals and the sea lions.

One time I was on a date with a guy and he was like, no, there's only, there's only sea lions down there.

I was like, you're you're wrong, buddy.

I've read the plaques.

Those are sea lions because they're barking and they have a certain way about them.

Those are seals over there.

He didn't know a thing.

Do you just know this is from the plaques or did you also change it?

I've done my research for sure.

What is the difference between the two?

A lot of differences.

Thanks for asking.

Sea lions, for example, bark very noisy.

They have a certain look about them.

For myself, I can tell, of course.

But what is it?

They have bigger fins here, right?

So they can be up more.

Seals are more like um they're round and tinier fins which one's a gentler animal seals seals yeah sea lions

sea lions or seals are the ones that people that like sailors used to confuse for mermaids which one was it like on rocks probably sea lions from how they stand up right i don't remember that maybe sea lions

anywho

coming up on today's episode of house of mar for tea time we talk about alona's quote-unquote overnight fame imposter syndrome which i don't have and dressing for for your body type.

We have a sister settle at submission about being caught in the middle of Warring Sisters.

So stay tuned.

Alona, you've been building and growing for quite some time with definite giant jumps in the past year.

How has that fame affected you, Adriana?

I'm so glad you asked, actually.

My day-to-day is incredibly different.

Yeah.

Like, I can't walk down the street without someone recognizing me, like, hey, you're that rugby player sister, right?

Right.

So they clock the shoulders.

Yeah, it's it's been difficult, but Alona, really, thank you so much.

Wow.

Welcome.

How has it affected you, actually?

I know.

Thank you so much for asking.

I

got recognized at the pharmacy

by the pharmacist.

By your

rash cream, I was picking up.

Yeah, exactly.

It was right up, right about, right around there.

Right.

On the rash eye.

Right on.

She, I was like, one rash cream, please.

And she was like, are you a Lonamar sister?

Sure, my sister.

That's crazy.

You know, that happened to me when I was getting a COVID test once.

I was checking in and she looked up and she was like, are you related to Alonamar?

And I was like, there's a line behind me.

This is HIPAA.

Speaking of that, though, you remember that time when that my I was checking my other people somewhere I post me on their stories one time this lady posted a picture of me on her story and was like I used to wax her in San Diego.

I used to do like her Brazilian wax.

I did her Brazilian wax in San Diego.

I was like, this has to be HIPAA.

This like has to be some guy's.

It has to be something wrong.

I mean, like, I get that, like, she wasn't actively waxing you, but you don't, like, disclose.

I was like, oh my gosh, I felt so violent that she'd seen everything and she's going to post

me.

And now she's.

She's the strips.

You know, legal accountant in the next wave.

I'm like,

one of ours.

Is that even legal?

I don't know.

We should really look into that.

If anyone can advise in the comments, that'd be really, really thankful.

Very like, that's great.

That one scared me.

That's a bit spooky.

And then she remembered it.

She like clocked that.

Yeah.

Just safe to say, I haven't gotten gotten one yet.

I haven't gotten what?

I haven't gotten a wax yet.

I'm scared.

Since then.

You can't go back to her.

Sunglasses and like a fake.

Are you Lonamar?

No, Olivia, actually.

I think our voices are quite recognizable as well because the pharmacist recognized my voice.

as being close to yours.

Like she was looking down, then she heard my voice and like kind of looked at me.

And then she said she looked at my file and saw the last name Mar.

And she was like, oh my gosh, you alonamar sister?

And I was like, yeah, thank you so much.

Recently, I got, are you Olivia's sister by Olivia's nail lady?

Right, right, right.

And I was talking to you, she's like, and I was about to be like, yeah.

She's like, are you Olivia's sister?

I was like, yes, I am.

Well, actually, that girl from my old friend from college saw you guys in LA, came up to you, and you thought it was going to be like a fan.

No.

No.

You're Andreana Marr sister.

Right.

From across the coast.

I win.

Alona came home from that interaction.

It was like, cause I go to townhouse for my nails.

And so there's townhouses in England.

And that's where I was going.

and she clocked alone on the street and was like you're alone you're Olivia Mars sister and you're like I've never gotten that one before get used to it get used to it

for real obviously you do get recognized quite a bit though like it's quite a lot it's very it's very exciting also very vulnerable like you are constantly talked to and approached but in Bristol I think I was like a little Bristol celebrity like we went out the last night and I had just I was constantly taking pictures which I which I don't mind I think that people really feel like they're connected with me and feel like almost a

bond with me.

Like something they can't explain.

So they, they love coming up to me to take pictures.

So I think I've created this aura that I, you know, very inviting, come and take pictures with me.

It does get to be a lot in a way at times.

Like I, I was, I get it.

I got it probably like 50 times like in that night, just like when I was sitting down with friends, hey, can I take pictures with you?

Okay, yeah, yeah.

So, so at times I, you know, I give myself a lot to them, but I also like, so

I guess

I feel very honored that they really feel this bond with me and that, that I've given them the impression that they can just come up and talk to me.

But it definitely becomes a lot sometimes.

I mean, we were finding it a lot in Bristol where people were just like

coming to me and asking me for things.

Like they, I would be just trying to get coffee and they'd be like,

can I talk to you for a minute?

And can you make this video for me, please?

Can you do this for me, please?

And then I was like, I'm just trying to eat my breakfast.

And then I had it like a couple of times where like I went to this place.

I didn't even eat anything.

And my friends were eating and then as i'm leaving she's like can you make a video about our sausage roll i was like i didn't even eat your sausage

why would i make a video about that and so and then it's hard to say no to them because sometimes it's like great causes small businesses really cool non-profits or whatnot so it's hard to say no and i i feel like i have to at times but You don't want to be a bad guy, though.

I don't want to be a bad guy.

You are so thankful and grateful and happy to meet these people.

And I wonder if it's like maybe I don't, I haven't gotten in LA, but it's a different vibe in LA, different vibe maybe in other parts of America like in Bristol they didn't really know somebody who has a such a social media presence and they put out videos all the time so like oh why don't you just put out a video for us

and it's like hard because I want to be supportive but

I'm protecting my own self my own brand I and I

I think that's something like we both can do better at you and I of like no she's not posting this video because we sometimes just like okay that's really nice but we're also trying to have a meal here yeah I think approaching you at a dinner table is a little too far.

I would, I don't think I'd ever do that to like a celebrity or an influencer.

I think if you're at a restaurant and like have they're obviously having a moment with friends, why would you interrupt that?

Yeah.

But like I hear you when it comes to like posting like for businesses and stuff, but

And you said this before, you don't want to be seen as like a diva or like you're, you know, you're a woman too.

So that there's like, you don't want to be seen as like a bitch.

Yeah.

And so that's an additional added pressure of like saying no.

How you come across.

And it's to the point too where like, I, you go forever.

Like you're so good at it because you want to see these people too.

And I'll do a vibe check with you and I'll be like, you good?

Do you want me to kind of slow things down?

You're like, no, no, I'm happy.

But like, you do so, you, you are so happy to talk to so many people to the point where I'm like, oh my gosh, like, is she okay?

Like, you get to, you don't have to.

You can kind of just enjoy your night.

But when those people are like showing you love and you see the effect that you have on their lives, like you are so,

you go above and beyond, like from what I see.

And that's so admirable.

Like you give a lot of yourself in those moments, you know, where I don't, I don't want you to be the bad guy and have to be like, no, no.

But I don't know.

But I think it's an interesting balance too of like you being the bad guy, but you're also building your own brand in a way too.

So I think that's where I'm having trouble too, of like almost somebody being like more of a no, you know.

Right.

Right.

I mean, like, I think people describe, try to describe this kind of come up inside come up ins that you've had as an overnight success story, but it's not.

Like you've been building for years.

I've never thought of it as such.

And everyone's like, Are you, are you just shocked by what's happening?

Are you, is this like so crazy?

I'm like, not really.

Feels right.

I

literally posted every day in between Tokyo and now, even before Tokyo, I was posting videos.

Like in the start, I think February in 2021, before Tokyo, I started to post more videos.

And then in Tokyo, I was posting videos.

And then I was posting videos every day, growing my presence.

So when I got to the Olympics, I had like 600,000 plus followers on Instagram.

And then I exploded more, but I did that to get to where I am, to get to where I can, you know, be making deals, having this and doing ventures like that.

So it's never felt crazy, which is like also at times I feel like, because there are some overnight successes where people have just gone viral over one little meme, you know, or one little thing and they go viral and they, they go, you know, everything happens for them.

I have been working on this.

Like it wasn't just one moment for me where I said something in a mic and people were like, that's hilarious.

We're all going to make that person famous.

It was me like constantly putting this out, putting this this out putting this out so i just don't think of myself as an overnight success i i don't i don't think i would be classed as that

class i i had to kind of i'm fighting tooth and nail in a way

for years the several years long overnight success like i put my whole personality out online you've seen that thing where it's like it takes 10 years to be an overnight success oh interesting and i think you you fit into that role of like you've been doing this for how long have you been on the usa team you know seven years six six years and this is like an extra year.

Yeah.

So it's, you know, you've been doing this.

Like even if it hasn't been social media the entire time, it's still like, you've been

putting in so much work to be an excellent world-class rugby player to then have a platform where you could showcase your rugby player.

I was recently asked in an interview.

You know, I do get emotional about everything.

Like, I'm just so proud of you and I'm so happy for you.

And that does make me emotional.

But I was in an interview where I could tell they wanted me to be emotional about everything that was happening and, you know, what's going on with you and everything.

But I didn't like feel it in that moment because, to me, like, yeah, of course, this should happen for you.

You've worked so incredibly hard, like, of course, like X, Y, and Z should follow because of what you've done.

Like, I wasn't, it's not that I wasn't emotional.

I was just kind of like, Yeah, no, of course, she deserves this.

It's not like, oh my gosh, I'm just like, so blessed that this is happening to her.

It's like, no, like, good.

Like, she

absolutely

was like that clip that went viral, the imposter syndrome clip.

Um, I was like, Thanks for posting that, CNN.

That it made me look great

absolutely the reporter was a very nice lady yeah yeah i was like wonderful thanks from that out there i guess i'm really bad i spoke so well sorry for yeah but i think that's like the same thing it's like oh do you feel in bustage about this i was like uh no

stop asking me that no and like you would not ask a man that you wouldn't ask a man that and i literally just feel like it's just like crazy that they're just expected to have that after all that I've done after all that I've worked and you think I just don't feel deserving of it And that's, I think, also a woman thing, though, too.

Of like

we're forced, this humbleness is sometimes forced on us to make us like, no, you know, be humble.

Like, you be small.

You're don't, you know, don't be too,

you don't want to know you're pretty.

You don't want to know this.

You don't want to know that.

Yeah, it's just like.

To be asked that constantly.

I don't think I'll ever be asked it again if I do.

Great.

I'll post it again.

Every reporter knows.

Every reporter better know what's going to happen.

They've got one big group chat.

Do not ask Alona about imposter syndrome.

Well, do you guys have imposter syndrome?

But that's interesting.

Like, I guess I speak from the heart about it, but that's my own thoughts.

I guess I don't know.

Do you guys ever feel that way?

Like, if you were to be asked that question?

I've definitely felt imposter syndrome in like certain cases, but not like a lot.

Because again, I went to college for like

I did global studies in political science and I, you know, I worked in data entry and development.

And that's what I then went into.

So I kind of was like, yeah, this fits.

Of course, I've studied this.

I've worked this.

There's like maybe some situations where it's,

I've been in rooms where, where I'm with so many intelligent and like world-class human rights leaders.

And I'm like, why am I in this room?

And I think that that's more of a realistic point of like, why do my little Excel sheets and yada yada?

Why am I like in the conversation with them?

But it's never been an overwhelming imposter syndrome feeling.

I think I used to like definitely being a young professional kind of coming up.

There's like always that worry of like, oh my gosh, I don't know enough.

Oh my gosh, I don't, you know, I'm still learning.

I'm going to do it bad.

I'm going to do it.

But I remember seeing this quote one time that was like, if you weren't ready for it, the opportunity wouldn't present itself.

And I remember hearing that and being like, yeah,

yeah, write that down.

I can, I can make it.

I can figure it out.

Like fake it to you make it or whatever.

But I mean, I think we are as women, sort of expected to have imposter syndrome and expected to feel like,

I don't know, we're not deserving of what we've worked for, and which is exactly everything that you were commenting on in your small, very viral clip.

But I think, yeah, that's just like kind of top to like.

And then I started going, I've even had like bosses, like women above me who are like, Does this email sound too aggressive?

And like, even before she's done reading it, I go, Would a man be asking himself that question right now about the email you're about to send?

She'd be like, No.

And like they would press send.

So I love, I like looking at things from that mindset.

Would a man feel he wasn't deserving of this position or undeserving of sending this email in this tone or without an exclamation mark here no so do it like yeah whatever maybe that's just thrown around too much imposter syndrome it's just thrown around as something very flippant something easy to have i think that at times you can feel doubt about things you can feel like oh that's you know i i'm really in this room full of people like that's you know a little bit but

To have a whole syndrome on it, you guys are deserving.

Not just you, but I'm talking to the people as well.

Yeah.

You're deserving.

You've worked for it.

I tell a story of like for even like middle school basketball coaches.

It's so funny.

A guy who's played basketball,

you know, up until high school as an adult, he'll be like, yeah, I can coach my kids' basketball team.

Yeah.

A woman will be like,

I didn't go to the WNBA.

I didn't play D1, so I don't think I can coach this middle school basketball team.

Like, we are always going above and beyond to be overqualified for things.

At some time,

let's realize we have worked for it we deserve it and we're supposed to be here and yeah there's that doubt can creep in maybe some insecurity can creep in but you're where you're supposed to be and you got there through all that you did clip that wow that's everywhere

love that send it out send that to cnn send that cnn well thank you cnn i love that

for posting that that was a nice interview Do you ever feel the need to almost wear a disguise when you go out?

That you're going to get recognized a little too much?

I don't care.

I mean, yesterday I was wearing, what was I wearing yesterday?

You, like this light-esque giant sweatshirt from Adidas, like a very cool design sweatshirt that went down to her knees, which is hard to do.

That's a big bitch.

You know what I'm talking about?

That's a big girl.

Down here.

Big girl.

And those chunky, ug things, the like horse hoof ones.

She was just stepping out in the town.

When I was shorts, too.

So it is just the zip up.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it looked like it was very Ariana Grande.

A la 2019.

They were lollipops.

Yeah, but when I realized she was leaving the house like that, I was like, live your truth.

I don't care.

Yeah.

I don't care if you want to take a picture of me and I look like that.

Even on our walk yesterday, I had a sweatshirt on that had a coffee stain on it.

Oh, yeah, you ran it.

I clocked it before we left, and I was like, you changing it?

And she was like, nope.

It's quite like an Adam Sandler thing going on.

I think I said that you did.

You did.

I just don't mind.

I think like the thought of having to be styled all the time.

I think I am in a way.

I don't know if I'm a style icon, but I know how to dress for my body for what makes me feel good.

But I do that when I need to do that.

When I don't, I'm going to be comfortable and not have to do laundry that much.

You know what I'm saying?

So I don't think I'll change my style that much or like be prepared.

Cause I also guys, paparazzi, if you seem not actual big celebrities with paparazzi shots, they've called them.

Literally.

Guys.

That's not real.

they're not the paparazzi are being called there's a secret for you in hollywood people are calling paparazzi left and right so i'm not calling them so i'm not worried of a paparazzi if a paparazzi gets you when i'm out i'll be like what the heck what are you doing here yeah so just know that like besides i don't need to dress up besides the dancing with the stars like rehearsal studio they'd be outside of there even then i didn't dress up for that no no

i always had multiple things in my hand yeah the claw hands maybe i should start comparisons.

Maybe that'd make me dress up better.

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I do think that we all kind of do it well where we dress for our body or like know what looks good on us, which is taking years.

I'm still working with you.

I'm still learning, but I think that that's something that we we dress for where how we feel the most confident.

So even if there's like a trend where it's like recently it'd be like baggy, like if there's baggy tees and this like the big jorts, like the big shorts, you put those on us?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, man, that is, that's, that's

a sandler.

Yeah, we can't be wearing that.

No, we see the trends.

We respect the trends.

I respect them.

We will not be doing those trends on our body.

When I see someone doing the trend well, I'm like, wow,

beautiful.

How about it?

Is it a fit or is she skinny?

Right.

It's like classic.

Or broad.

It's not going to work sometimes.

For us, like, I, and that's my thing is I've also learned, like, I actually like tighter things.

I don't like things that make it boxy, that are like loose on me.

Cause I think like with my shoulders, if it's boxy, it's just too, too, like, one-dimensional.

So I love tighter things.

I like things that show off my arms and whatnot.

I think you, you know, you both express yourselves in different ways as well.

You've been getting into the low rise, though.

I have been getting into the low rise a little bit more.

Hashtag brave.

So I will say I did, at first I saw that trend and I was like, I'm never doing that.

That's disgusting.

I can't be doing that.

And now I'm like, belly's out.

Show them off.

2025, belly's out.

But I still like have to figure out how to mark because they're so loose.

I think mom just lives in my brain because I have this freckle mole like an inch below my belly button.

Not even.

It's like quite below my belly button that mom said my pants had to hit that

to this day.

Like she would check my belly, like the mole on my belly button to make sure that my pants hit there to this day.

I'm like, is my pants?

Just recently she was pulling my pants up too.

When she was in LA, she was like, she was like, mom?

She was pulling my pants up.

And I'm like, mom, that's the

tall rise.

It's not cool anymore.

I still do the fingertip thing.

Like, that was the rule.

Yeah.

Your shorts or skirts always had to be below them.

And so sometimes if, like, an item goes above that, I'm like, that's too risky on me.

That's too risky.

Thoughts on skinny jeans coming back?

We say that now, but I wonder if I will be influenced.

I could see you doing it.

Personally,

I could find a way to work it.

Yeah, exactly.

I think I could.

I think it's all in the shoes, personally, of like what you match it with.

I'd see videos.

Like, even when I moved to New York City in like 2018, I was wearing some quite skinny jeans, but none of them were ever really long enough on me too so it's just not a good complexity it was a big look for a while there like growing up i've got gorgeously glorious large upper thighs and then i get quite delicate down here i also yeah it doesn't work with a skinny jean i might i might fall into it

i don't think so i look back at those images of me in skinny jeans and i don't think it complements my body

but I'll try it.

But the thing is, I don't think I'm going to go out and spend my money on a pair of skinny jeans.

So it'd have to be like, you get a pair of skinny jeans that don't fit you.

So I get it.

One thing I've noticed of being more confident in how I present and how I dress is how much money I put into it.

Like I've always been an incredibly frugal person.

Like I don't spend a lot of money when it comes to clothes and appearances.

But now that like I've, you know, gotten older and my salaries were raising and stuff like that, like I could put in a little bit more.

And I saw the value of like, if I spend

80 bucks for a pair of jeans and I know I'm going to wear the shit out of them.

I'm going to feel so much better.

You made money on that deal.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, price per wear,

you're making money.

That's me and my jeans.

Those things stand up on their own.

And then sometimes Olivia and I share pants too.

So, like, she'll wear it today, I'll wear it today, she'll wear it today.

To the point where, like, you leave those in a corner, they're walking away.

Literally climbing out the window.

You guys have like one closet at this point.

The thigh area is gone.

Are you gonna miss her closet when she goes back to San Diego?

Who?

What do you think she's wearing right now?

All of the shoes are yours.

All of the shoes are yours.

But we do wear both.

You wear a lot of my stuff.

She wears a lot of them.

Yeah, we kept accidentally doing this thing in England where we'd buy something and be like, oh, we'll share it.

No.

Like, we maybe split it once, and now we've like we've each taken sides.

We've taken custody of certain items, I think.

I hear you.

Thoughts on skating jeans on men?

and the crowd goes mild no big old no

feel free to wear what you want and what you're confident in except if you're a man don't do that i don't i don't like a skinny jean on man i don't like seeing the contours of your leg i want to see your contours of your leg in a different context not under jeans what if they had nice legs Wear shorts.

Wear shorts.

Thank you.

Shorts.

Wear shorts.

Shorts.

Like cool boy shorts.

I'm talking in the summer.

Like little, like, are you against shorts on men?

Well, I guess when I heard shorts, I thought like booty shorts.

That's what I'm saying.

Also, in a different context, if this was a group of men on couches talking about women.

Right.

We got to stop giving women mics.

Men, you can wear skinny jeans, but I think there is now an eve of...

baggier jeans on men too.

Yeah, that's great.

I'm excited.

I'm pro baggy jean on anyone.

It doesn't need to be too baggy.

It just needs to be like nice.

Thoughts on barrel jeans?

I feel like that's one that, because I like a baggy thing.

I love a baggy jean with like a cute kitteny heel, slip-on, mule moment.

Barrel jeans, I would love to get on top of.

I just don't know if that would work on my body.

Barrel jeans?

Barrel jeans.

The ones that go out like this, but they're straight in the middle.

Can you imagine?

Not with these hips.

That would go crazy.

Not like these avocrompic curve gloves right here.

I'd catch a wind and I start flying away.

Sometimes, what?

I'm on my pants.

Yeah.

Some people look very cool in those.

I don't know, though.

What we're getting at is, though, dress what makes you feel confident.

For us, it is,

I guess, now baggier jeans, but not too baggy of a jean.

It is something that makes our shoulders look good.

Yeah.

And makes us feel like sexy, sexy.

You like your shoulders and your back out.

Yeah.

What do you like showing off?

I do like a more rounded, like necklace.

Necklatage.

Yeah.

But I do argue.

No, I'm not doing it now.

I do like a long sleeve a lot.

I feel better in a long sleeve.

Gorgeous.

It's because my arms get really red.

So gorgeous.

It's more covering and insecurity.

Sorry.

That's okay.

I love a cropped shirt.

You do.

Because I think it is for my body.

It accentuates things nicely.

Hits me right.

It hits me right.

Depends on the crop, though, for sure.

We also have places that we love to shop that really fit our body.

So for me, I shop a lot at Reformation.

Everything I get fits my body.

And then I shop a lot at Aritzia as well.

And I love also getting free pieces from people.

But I don't get as much now because I do feel I'm in this weird place where people want to send me free stuff, but I'm like, why?

I can afford that.

I buy that from you.

And like these small businesses are like, please, can we send you this?

And I'm like, it's, I'll send you.

Send them my sizes.

I'll send them your sizes.

But I do.

We, I think it's like we're now trying to, I don't get as much free pieces as I as I used to because I just feel like I get too much and also I want to get pieces I will wear not just kind of consume things I'm not gonna be wasteful.

Yeah, your closet's only so big.

My closet is very tiny.

Very ethical consumerism.

Yeah, that's me.

Is there any ethical consumption under capitalism?

Wow.

And I should have been the one to say that.

Andre, you missed it.

She sounds good.

You're fine.

Have you gotten anything or like candy downs from us that you like?

You recently said you got a jewelry thing coming.

Yeah.

A jewelry brand reached out.

D.

Louise.

She reached out and it was really lovely.

And then unfortunately, like, I think the address was wrong.

So it got sent back to England.

And so she had to reship it.

So I've got pieces for you guys.

But that's been.

That's been me.

And the rest is hammy-downs.

But that's been my entire life is hammy-downs from you guys.

Like, even our uniforms at our Catholic school, it was Olivia's and it was Alona's.

So by the time it got to me, it was like yellowed.

Sorry about that.

It was just, you know, it's been awful.

i guess you like sweat or something yeah yellowed ew but nowadays we've gotten past the yellowed shirts and i get everything that really doesn't fit you

dude i remember this one white turtleneck and the white turtleneck that is tough from

bringing up

that is tough

sorry about that you guys aren't light sweaters no it's true.

A big sweater.

Something about a turtleneck IB sweat in the nose.

But no, this.

Oh, wait, no, these are my Abercrombies.

Love an Abercrombie.

Love an Abercrombie, but I, too many of my jeans are Abercrombies.

And I recently got a Reformation pair that I love, and it fits really well.

There's a little bit of gapping in the back, but that's kind of

skinny.

Or waist.

Have you seen Adriana?

She got blown away with the barrel jeans.

With the barrel jeans?

She's getting driving down the street.

Throw yellow armpits.

Oh, gosh.

I love Abercrombie jeans.

They fit me just like the best.

And I truly have a good amount of them because that's just my main outfit.

I love just like the jeans and a top.

Jeans and a cute top.

And they're pretty affordable.

And they're quite affordable for how long they last and how good they look.

After, you know, couple, a bunch of wears, you do got to feel like...

Give them a wash with a bit of a dry, tighten them back up a bit.

You know what I mean?

But I love them.

I love Rest Formation.

It all fits very well, surprisingly.

Like you look at some of the stuff and I'm like, oh, I don't think it'll fit.

And then it's like sisterhood of the traveling sustainable clothing.

It fits so good.

And then what else?

I love anything that Alona doesn't want anymore.

I love a hand-me-down.

I love, there's something about a hand-me-down that just feels better, fits better.

And I felt that way my whole life.

Like babysitters that would gift us clothing, like cool jeans and stuff that they would wear, those were like my most treasured possessions.

I loved wearing them.

So I think about those a lot.

I was recently, I had a, spent like an hour in Aritzia dressing room.

Only came out with three things, but this is it, one of them.

Were two of them black tops, maybe?

Were two black tops out of your three things?

Yeah.

I needed new basics.

I was doing a shadow tell to my roommate and I pulled out the first black top and she's like, don't you have enough black tops?

And I was like, wait till you see this.

I turned around and she goes, oh,

sorry.

Oh my gosh.

I'm trying to get more into dresses.

That's my new goal for this year.

Like, like for the summer?

For the summer, yeah.

Well, where are you starting in that journey?

My newly.

That's where I get everything because I find I just, when I'm shopping in person, like, where's all the cool stuff?

Why is it all basics?

Right.

And I want something that's like really unique.

And I can find those on newly.

And I've got some coming in that hopefully will fit.

That's the problem.

Fingers crossed there.

Well, Lono, people love asking you,

like, who's the most famous person in your phone or in your DMs?

dms or do you get starstruck but i feel you don't really right you're kind of i think i'd get starstruck if like queen latifah was in my dms right i'd be like what are you doing here girl this is crazy you love her i love her i love her movies i love who she is person

Some of her music as well.

Maybe because of who I am, because I'm like, that's just a regular person.

Yeah.

Like everyone gets starstruck around me.

I'm like, I'm just a regular person.

So I don't think anything of it.

Yeah, I've had some famous people in my DMs who I'm like, what are you doing here?

Are you lost?

What you just said the nicest thing about me?

I've had, especially during the Olympics, a lot of people came out and said such nice things about me.

But I also don't like to just be like, yeah, this person said this about me and like tell.

So like, because it was an interaction between the two of us.

Yeah.

And like they didn't send it to be out there.

So I've had some really cool ones.

You guys know some ones where I was like, you guys are never going to, you guys are going to freak.

And she says it so casually.

She's like, yeah, look who just stammed me.

What are you?

oh my god

oh my god but it's all usually very nice um people i don't get many

i get like some dating dms but nothing that really i thought i would be better i thought it would be more you were recently i mean people obviously will sometimes dm on like the dating side of stuff but you were recently written a handwritten letter right which sounds like it could be scary right but actually was very nice and this guy also attached he made um friendship bracelets as well I was like, whoa, you know what?

I will message him.

Where's that letter at?

It's

probably in Bristol.

No, it's somewhere.

It was very nice.

So I think that's very, really, like, he really put in the effort there.

And so I like stuff like that.

I get a lot of DMs.

Like, I recently did a post where I was like.

One of my friends sent me up with somebody eligible and really hot.

Oh, yeah, how'd that go?

I got a lot of DMs by like people who fit maybe one of the requirements.

But nothing nothing too crazy.

Joey Grazadeh, like, I think made a funny face to it.

And I was like, I'm talking, I'm looking at you, Boyo.

No, literally, you especially.

I'm looking at you, buddy Bachelor Nation over there.

He's got hot friends.

How about you start putting in some work?

Yeah.

Gosh, your friends.

I thought I'd be set up on more blind dates at this point.

I thought my friends would be helping me out more.

Do we not do that anymore?

Do friends not set friends up?

I don't think so.

House party culture, dead.

I feel like that's where people are.

Everyone always has a friend.

Never follows through.

Oh, wow.

You've got half a date lined up, don't you?

Yep.

We'll see.

Yep.

What can I say?

What is the plan so far?

Yankee Stadium.

I love a Yankees game.

Yankee Saddle City.

That's so cool.

But it's tough because we actually started talking like a month ago or something.

And then I was in Bristol and then I was back.

And then I was like, I'm free these days.

It wasn't going to go to the Yankees, but to something else.

And then he was like, I can't.

And I was like, well, I'm going to be gone for two and a half weeks.

So we'll see.

That's it.

That's all I've got.

Will you down a hot dog in front of him?

Or three.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that actually would work in your favor.

Absolutely.

And a cup water margarita.

Well, maybe I shouldn't finish, actually.

Be careful.

Maybe you should.

Be careful with the music.

We're sweating up a little bit.

If I'm having one of these, you got to have two tall boys of beers.

No, literally.

That doesn't make sense.

I'm proud of you, John.

Abuse, you were trying to be on a journey of doing more dates.

Yeah, do we want to talk about that?

I had.

Well, we can talk about another episode.

Yeah, maybe.

I've just never felt like a strong desire to date.

Like, I would love to be in a relationship, but I just, I'm like, why would I put so much time into like dating apps and having to text someone I don't even know and yada yada yada?

And it's never been on my like radar to be like, I should check hinge.

It's just kind of like, I have to force myself really to do it.

Just like, just look.

I have to have a friend with me swiping.

It's not that I'm against dating.

You need a supervisor.

I need weekly check-ins, actually.

I need a coordinator.

That's what she needs.

Are you available?

Sure.

I got another sister that I'll show you.

I'll give you a couple days.

Will you, Olivia?

Do we want to talk about your dad?

That's what she's doing.

Another episode.

Another.

Man.

I've been found.

How have yours been?

Dry.

Dry, yes.

Just nothing going on.

And I like it.

But she hasn't been trying.

I have been trying.

She only, like, a couple days ago was like, maybe I'll get on an app, like, started to have the thought in her mind.

but she's still like,

I don't know.

I just really like what I'm doing.

I'm doing me right now.

I'm still like, I mean, we're quite busy.

We're all over the place.

There's a lot going on.

Someone would need to be okay with that, but I'm also just still not yet in a place where I

want

to bring someone into all of it.

I'm kind of being selfish with my time.

That's what I'm doing.

I'm going to Hong Kong.

You're going to New York.

You're doing all this stuff.

And I kind of love it.

You know?

It'd be nice to have a crush to go crazy over that.

Olivia keeps saying, I would love.

What are you saying?

I think I would like to be kissed.

I literally wrote in my journal in England on one of the darkest days.

I was like, I think I should like to be kissed.

I'm not even gonna be like, okay, Jay on my journal.

Like, like, pride and prejudice is on me.

Yeah, touching.

Emma.

Um, yeah, no, we're not there yet.

But one day, I imagine we all have very similar types, though.

Yeah, 6'4.

I don't, I'm not the biggest high person.

6'4.

6'4

from Kentucky.

We can give the short kings that might get picked up by a horse

to her.

Sorry, I just find sometimes that really tall guys haven't had to work on their sense of humor.

Yeah, right.

I hear you.

Their personality.

And I know it's like an insecurity of mine.

That's really like why I'm like, I would love

to be taller.

I just want to feel tiny.

I hear you.

And by short, I mean like 5'10, guys.

I'm not,

she's not crazy.

You know, my height.

Right, right.

But i have been looking loving the look of like tom and zendaya when they like they're i'm like wow that's so cool because it is like the man has to have a lot of confidence for that and that's hot i love that confidence is hot so what we're saying is man don't be five nine don't wear skinny jeans

uh i'll take you five nine no i'm not that piggy now come to that age i'll take you

better now than later alona yeah but i think like like humor is huge for us um because humor is a sign of intelligence and like being able to just like have a fun conversation because we love knowing things we're a very inquisitive bunch inquisitive we're a family of know-it-alls we are know-it-alls if you go on a walk with us i the amount

i i ask a lot of dot like questions like what do you think oh my gosh look there's four electric meters on that house we must have four units in here what do you think come here look at this so that's where where do we think the division is what do we think they're paying around here yeah that's actually an extension what do you think that is an oak why is there why is there this many leaves growing like this what do we think yeah we we love we love putting pieces together pattern recognition yeah very inquisitive actually one time i had a friend date and we went to the met and we were in like the greek section and i read the percy jackson books front to back several times and i was my moment to shine and i don't know how to shut up and so i was just spewing everything to her yeah luckily she was eating it up

and she was interested in it too and she like a few months later she was like yeah i thought you were so smart like you knew so much of the met and i was like because we were in the greek mythology section my schedule packed.

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Send us a DM or a voice note at House of Mar for a chance to be featured on the show.

We have a listener submission today from Amy.

I've got a good sisterly struggle.

I'm in the middle of three sisters.

I get along with both, but my younger and my older sister don't always get along with each other.

We have a great time, all three, but they have their limits with each other.

Anytime there's a disagreement, I'm always stuck in the middle.

I get one phone call and then another.

What do you do when you don't get along?

My sisters are very much alike and they just don't admit it.

This is very interesting.

I actually think this is very much like our family, but you do get along.

But the thing is, you two are extremely alike.

Extremely like.

Which I wonder

that's interesting because I would say I'm the peacekeeper.

Would you say that?

I would say, who do you think is peacekeeper out of all?

I don't think you, I think just because who am I fighting with?

You're just, no, no, I'm saying you're a peaceful person.

So like you just seem to be like a peacekeeper, but you don't actually do anything to mitigate.

Oh, maybe.

No, when you two sometimes get after each other, you know what I when do we get after each other?

And what do you do to help?

Yeah, just stand there and watch.

We do yourself.

Hey, Jonna, I have your back a lot, but she gets mean.

That's because you know she's not being fair.

And she's being annoying and not not good to work with

Fine.

I think I am

in the moment, but I think we don't think so.

That's fine.

I'm never gonna stick up for you ever.

I'm never gonna stick up for you ever again whenever she says, I'm stuck up for her.

No, I do that sometimes.

I used to do recently when you,

you know, when you quit back when she's like, and then you quit back with something sometimes, and then just you do.

Do you all record that, Olivia?

You're a great defender, and I really appreciate that.

Bye bye.

But I think like a mitigator or the in-between often does fall to Olivia.

But who's she mitigating for?

Like, sometimes if you do something that really annoys me, I go to Olivia.

Oh, so you don't come to me?

Yeah.

And then she yells at me for not going to you and tells me I should go to you.

Give me an example.

Recently, what I did.

It was after the Olympics and you were yelling at me to go talk to her.

I don't know.

I forget what you did.

See, saying yelling at is aggressive.

We don't really yell.

We just get...

Wait, wait, wait.

Probably.

They can't even tell.

I'm perfect.

No, because it's just, nothing's ever that big big where it like lingers.

But sometimes you do stuff where I'm like, we're quite mature about it.

I'm like, Alona just like isn't doing this.

And oh, it's annoying me.

And Olivia's like, why are you telling me this?

Like, you have to go like address this with Alona.

It's not going to do anything.

And I think you are the peacekeeper.

And especially when it comes, like, if I ever get annoyed at like mom and I'm like, and mom sent this and yada, yada.

You like to like show both sides.

Okay.

Oh, mom, you know, like she was raised this way.

And so this is maybe why she thinks that.

And she's just wanting to protect you.

Like, you're almost a devil's advocate for whoever we're angry at.

Right.

But I think we all do that a lot.

Yeah.

But like you, like you're saying, you do, because she's such a neutral party, though.

So like, if you need, you want no holds.

What's it called?

No bars hold.

No, no bars held.

No, no bar.

What's it?

You want no holds barred.

Go to Alona.

She will tell it to you so straight up.

I love being honest with my friends.

I love it.

I love crushing their spirit when they're being delusional.

Sometimes her and our best, her best friend and I, Nicole, will come together and be be like man alone is being like really straight up about something and i kind of want to just live in delusion for a while like i don't know if you don't want someone to lean into your fantasies with you do not go to alona no she's here to tell it to you straight sometimes i'll like be like alona i'm so worried about this and yada yada and she's like why would he be why it makes you feel like a little ridiculous i'm like yeah fuck why am i being so right it's like that's she's like that's dumb to think about it that way and you're like It is dumb to think about it that way.

I think we are all very blunt.

Like, and that is a Dutch trait.

Everyone is very blunt, a little mean sometimes, but honest.

And I think Alona might have that the most.

Like,

I'll be ideating on something, like, stressing and like stress, like looping on something.

And I'm like, I can't get to the bottom of it.

And then I'll present it to Alona and she will have the most simple, like, duh solution.

Just hearing at the end of it, I'm like, God, she's okay.

She's good.

She's good.

She now try helping myself.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, she refuses to do that.

She will help others, but not me.

Sorry, Amy, back to your thing.

Amy, baby.

Okay, that's an interesting one because I, so back to you guys, you guys are very alike, but you do get along.

There are moments where you can get after each other.

Growing up, we got after each other a lot because of how similar we were.

And mom and dad would always say, like, well, they're so similar.

I'm like, I'm nothing like that, bitch.

Are you kidding?

And then growing up, I was like, we are exactly alike.

But that's why we would fight.

It's like, I, we were so similar is that like you would be about to do something and I'd be like, don't do that because I, my brain works the way yours work.

And then you do it and then you get mad at me and I'd be like, I do, you know?

And now you always get mad at me

when it's something that you would do to me.

Like,

this is interesting.

I'm like, you'll say something and be like, Olivia, if you said that to me, or no.

Hold on.

It's the math on that.

That's got me confused.

It's like, you're like, you would do something to me.

I'm like, if I ever did that to you, Olivia, you'd lay me out on the fucking floor.

Probably for good reason.

No.

Like, do as I say, not as I do.

Okay.

Amy.

Amy.

Listen.

Listen, Amy.

I think with the one phone call thing, so now we know that Ajana goes to Olivia like a little baby and cries when I make her mad.

And that's the problem right there.

I think you have to be like, why are you telling me this?

Go tell our other sister.

And Olivia goes, why are you telling me this?

Go tell Alona.

Yeah.

And we're all quite mature about it, too.

It's like we can.

We can each hear and go on from there.

Yeah.

We don't hold grudges really.

And if we do, we're just silent for a little while.

And then we just give each other space.

Then we come back to the other side.

I think space is a key thing.

Space is key.

I got to read this again.

We kind of got a little off track.

Yeah.

How do we help?

I think, can you have like a group call?

Is there a way to like let them talk and be, because that's not, that's not an easy job being in the middle.

That's exhausting.

That's tiring.

They want you to probably pick sides and that's not.

That's not going to help anybody.

Like you should, they should want to be able to fix things with each other instead of trying to get you onto either of their sides.

And I think as you in the middle, you be a, don't pick a side, like you said.

Like you, when you listen, be like, say it like Olivia would, say it from her, be devil's advocate.

Well, what is she thinking?

Because I think that's when it is you're, you're exploiting a vision, like, okay, well, I got you on my side now.

Like come at it from nobody's side, be Switzerland.

And like kind of share the two sides of it.

And then do what I guess each of us does, which is, okay, great that you were able to talk it out with me, but now take it to them and make sure that you guys are coming from a place of love and both wanting to fix the problem with each other.

Otherwise, you're not going to get anywhere and you're fighting just to fight and feel power over the other.

And that's not nice.

Very nice.

That was beautiful.

Anyway, I got beef.

Beef too, bitch.

No, I got beef with both of you now.

Don't stop defending me all.

And I'm calling Olivia later

about you.

Hey.

I'm in my bathroom and you guys are knocking on either doors.

Sorry, Amy.

I don't know if that helped.

I think it actually caused problems between the three of us.

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