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Now, boy, oh boy, we got a movie for you. A movie 37 years in the making.
That's right. This movie was just released in 2020.
Oh,

yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, that makes a lot of my confusion make sense.

Well, just if in case you haven't seen it, and I do recommend that you do see it, because this, every now and then we come across one that is pure perfection, and this is definitely one of those movies.

All hell breaks loose when a giant grizzly reacts to the slaughter of his babies or her babies and attacks a massive big band rock concert in a national park. That's the premise.

We'll break it all down, but first, let me introduce my co-host, Jason Manzukas. Jason, how are you? Wow, wow, we did it.

We really, I don't know if we've reached the end of all of our bad movies, but this certainly feels feels like a movie that was cobbled together from the found scraps of other movies.

Oh, and it kind of is.

Yeah, that's what I'm yeah, that's what I'm guessing at. But yes, let's jump right in.

This week, we do not have our other co-host, June Diane Raphael, with us, but we have found someone to replace her. A suitable replacement.
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Please welcome Jake Johnson. Jake, thank you guys.
Thank you, guys. Well,

what a movie, you guys. What a movie.

Holy shit. You're welcome.
You know, whenever we have a guest for the first time on the show, I'm like, oh, they may be upset when they have to sit down and watch it.

But I was like, we gave Jake a gift. It's not even, it's only an hour and 14 minutes.
It's not even in an hour and 20. Paul, six minutes of credits.

And I'm going to honestly say, I'm pretty sure I watched at least 35 minutes of the concert. Like,

a lot of concert footage. Concert footage

and B-roll of just animals in the wilderness. How about the new fake band?

The modern band, it was, first of all, the concert when it was ladies from the 80s vibe. Yes.
I was like, I love this concert. This is a home run.
Yep.

Like an 80s new wave, like, I believe, like Russian.

I believe they're singing in Russian and like the sexy, weird hip dances that is so like not not sexy, but you're like, I don't know, there was a time when like Jane Fonda did it. Love it.

It's working. I loved all of it.
Me too. But you're right, the modern band.
Then all of a sudden in the middle, it's like a wedding band from 2010.

Who are shot super close with no microphones and they're performing to 100,000 people with the guy has a little bit of a ponytail.

Who'd you cast? No, I will tell you this.

This was a real, this was real. This was a real concert in Hungary.

So these are. Wait, yes.
What is this? These are Hungarian.

The big concert was a real concert. You mean the big one? There's the original, and then there's the additive stuff that the distributor did in 2019 to make money off of a Zoonie

partner in a Chuck E. Sheen.

Yes, all right. So this is what happened.
Back in 83, 1983, the filmmakers created this massive musical festival in Hungary called the Beast Festival.

So that's what we're seeing. And man, this was.
Okay, so yeah.

So I'm sorry, just to like pull that string a little bit, Paul, you're saying that people were hired to shoot a concert video, like Woodstock.

Then they made the Charlie Sheen Clooney Laura Dern thing. Around the concert?

Are those separate elements that were then wedded together? And then the extra, the modern footage, the drone footage. Was because the movie was 80 minutes and they can't sell an 80 minutes.

And that's not legally a movie, I believe. I think you've got to be 88 minutes to get paid as a feature contractually.
Well, that's like a guy who has made little indies.

And then like 83 minutes, you're like, it counts, yeah? Oh, I remember, I'm pretty sure they added two minutes of bloopers to the dictator to legally make it a movie.

All right,

this is what I know. And this is, Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, but Scott, our producer, found this great article in The Ringer about the making of the movie written by Brian Rafferty.

He did an amazing job. So the first thing that they filmed was this huge concert created just for this movie.

Almost 50,000 people attended, which made it one of the largest concerts ever held in Eastern Europe. The concert, right, was completely real.

Nazareth was the headline. Oh, okay, Nazareth, which is like a real

70s and 80s. They just

did a concert. Oh, yeah, no, the concert was the first thing that they filmed, and then they paid for it from the money raised by this conman producer, Joseph Ford Proctor.

But the very first day they began shooting the non-concert scenes, Proctor ghosted them and took off with the rest of the money that he raised. So he's just, he's a weird Robin Hood.

He just gives some of it away and then disappears. This is

Spanish for many years and was living in Thailand.

He was convicted for fraud. He didn't have to say that.
We knew that. See, that's where everyone goes.
But yeah, like that, that opening of this idea that

this is a movie that was kind of bamboozled. And yes, I think across the board,

look, this is a movie called Grizzly 2 based on the very successful Grizzly.

Not really, but it was based on Grizzly 1.

I started to feel like, is there a Grizzly 1? Are any of these people from that movie?

Yes.

Well, not from that movie. No, no, no, it is.
There's no carryover. There's no carryover.
Sorry, Paul. I'm so sorry.

I have, I'm going to be honest, nothing but questions. This is,

all of my notes are just questions. So, yes.
So,

when Clooney, Dern, and Sheen shot their one and one-half scenes. Yes.

By the way, this movie opens with, and

we'll break it all down, because this movie opens with

like, well, I don't know if he'll get to answers, but we'll at least ask questions. The movie opens with like starring, you know, and it's George Clooney.

It also ends the first,

it's George Clooney's photo at the end. Yeah, and so like you think, like, okay, well, it's George Clooney, Laura Dern, Charlie Sheen.
And I'm thinking, okay, I worked at

Blockbuster when I was a kid. And in, you know, and I remember there was like an Adam Sandler movie, like, called like Going Overboard.
He has like one scene, but they put him on the cover box.

But this movie, it seems like they didn't even want to trust you to wait until like 10 minutes in. They open up a scene on these three people.

I got a quick question that really threw me off. Did you guys also see the Charlie

Shane documentary? I haven't.

Okay.

So there's a scene in there, Jason, that pissed me off while watching it and then pissed me off more while watching Grizzly 2.

Charlie Shane was offered this part in Grizzly Man 2, total dog shit. He said yes.
They needed him for seven days. Can't figure out why he went to seven days.
Maybe just to fly to Budapest?

He then got offered the part of Karate.

Oh, no.

He was going to be karate kid.

His dad, an old school purist, said, all you've got is your word. So he passed on being the fucking karate kid to be in this.

And the story was almost like, I was mad at my dad for a long time, but that integrity. And I'm like, no, that's just bad.

I mean, for Grizzly 2

for Grizzly 2. And now talk about.
No, it's not a movie. And he passed.
So

later on.

Was the Charlie Sheen, Clooney, Laura Dern, was there supposed to be more? Or was this the sum total?

All three of these future superstars are cast just to die

in the cold open?

Yeah, so...

So originally, that scene was going to be later in the film.

That's why, about 20 minutes into the movie or so, we see the National Park staff discover the bodies of the three dead teenagers because in the original cut of the movie, they had just been killed in the scene before.

All right, so this is kind of weird, right?

So it wasn't until years later that the film's remaining producer, Suzanne Nagy, re-edited the movie and then moved the Clooney, Dern, and Sheen scene to the beginning once they all became huge stars.

Oh, now the screenwriter did say that the only reason that they were hired was because of nepotism. And they thought that if they used these names, that would help the box office

connected to

Rosemary. Oh, right.
And I guess on a level of a movie like this, it was enough to give it like something, right? So they were gaming the system. That's fascinating.

They said, yeah, their auditions are fine,

but the reason why they were hired was to help like game the box office.

That's so fascinating to me because it seemed so odd to me that before they were anywhere near stars, the three people who would become that maybe this is just truly an indictment of nepotism inside of this business, but the people who would become unequivocally the biggest stars out of this movie are the three who are like just cast aside in the cold open.

I wouldn't call it nepotism, Jason. Did you see the other acting in this movie?

This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. The main guy and the blonde lady, when they were doing their scenes, I honestly felt like this can't be on planet Earth.

No, I mean, they're not real humans here. John Reese Davies, who I love, you know, obviously from Raiders of the Lost Ark, the sliders, I've been in a bunch of great stuff.

He is doing something at a certain point. I'm like, should I be offended by what he's doing? Brichard, right? Brichard.
He's a special character. Here, take a listen to John Rhys-Davies.
They say

that Grizzly was created by the great Manitou.

But Grizzly grew to be so strong that even Manitou himself had to flee to escape him.

In the beginning,

Bear walked on two legs, like a man.

In those days, he killed his prey with clubs, and not with teeth and claws. You really believe that garbage, don't you?

Grizzly is a beast from hell.

If you do not know that now,

you will someday. He's an Alzheimer.
When they establish later on that, well, he actually was this a normal guy who went nuts and now thinks he's a Native American. Yeah.

After a bear killed

his wife and daughters.

Pretty awesome. I will say, pretty awesome story, Lon.
I know, Jake, you texted me and said, you're going to go as Bouchard for Halloween.

Bouchard. Just because I have every year since 2000.
I mean, Bouchard really is a great character.

And I did think, I was like, did they like retcon his backstory? Because, you know, John Rhys-Davies probably got this idea. He's like, I'm doing this.

And then they were all like, okay, like, there's a moment where the lead actor literally takes a knee because it's like, well, I can't compete with whatever John Rhys Davies is doing.

How about when he moves the tree? He moves the tree with his bare hands.

Incredible. He's the strongest man on planet Earth.

I want to answer some of these questions, and I can also break down some things in the movie just so you guys have a clearer answer on some of this stuff. Okay, about this producer.

So basically,

he took the money from the film. He didn't even tell the other producer.
Instead, he let that producer's husband tell her that he just ran off with the money.

Uh, he was jailed later for other shady business. You don't have to say that part.
We all assumed it. Got that.

And now this movie was made in Budapest, and the Hungarian government seized all the film equipment because they didn't pay their bills.

And as a result, they never got a chance to do post-production on it. They even took the bears.

And so, yeah.

You know what? We were saying earlier, we all got in the the bloat business when we all got in this game. The other business I wanted to get into is this business.
Oh, this?

I wanted to be in a movie in Budapest and have somebody come to my hotel room and go, there is no movie. And I go, why? And they go, They confiscated the bears, everything.
And the bears are gone.

Thank you so much for the opportunity, gentlemen. This was a really fun 10 days.
I mean, and by the way, everything, all the film is missing.

As well, it should be. This was the worst project I've ever been a part of.
45 days.

This movie, they started shooting in Hungary months after Ronald Reagan declared the Russia as an evil empire, and they were shooting it on a military base, and they were apparently surrounded by secret police the entire time of the shooting, which is now I'm like, is this like an Argo situation where they like, was this like a chance to get in?

And yes, so this movie then toiled for many years. In 87, our friends at Canon Film Group, who've made all of the movies that we've talked about on this show, they were like,

we're going to finish this up. But then they had to ditch it when they went bankrupt.
So everything has kind of gone bad

on this.

Who is the group that just reselled? There's a group that came in recently and said, with those three stars at the beginning, we could sell it to Netflix for at least $250,000.

Well, that's the Gravitas pictures, Gravitas, who are big in the indie game. They're the ones who...

Yeah, they bought it and they, and I think that they were like, this is weird enough that it could be like a bird. I think this is me now adding my own thing to it.
Like, it could be a bird demic.

Like, well, we, they, they were able to re-edit it all together, put some bare footage back in. You know, they stitched it together just to kind of make sense, even though

it's stitching

shit. Oh, the difference between the 80s.

Yeah, the 80s footage and the, they shoot a bunch of like modern stuff, like modern drone shots, modern, they shoot a bunch of a modern musical, music festival where people are wearing like tie-dye and all sorts of like modern logo shirts and stuff also the nature footage at the beginning i was like it's so funny it's so funny there's it's so crisp yeah but there's like why not just make a weird 72 minute movie like the during the concert there was those two old guys in white jackets playing something.

I was hard laughing, but then when it cuts to like the karaoke footage of the modern band, something about it pissed me off.

Oh, well, I'll tell you this modern band, by the way, they're a band called The Days, and they're performing their song The Planet. Now, here's the thing, all right?

This was from a please tell me they're here today. Bring them on the show.

Welcome to the stage, The Days. Now, The Days,

that track is from 2016, far way off from 1983.

And on

a comment on the YouTube video of their song, it says the footage was requested by a company, but they didn't know what it was going to be used for. So they unwillingly gave

that value for this band. They signed a contract.
They didn't read. They're like 17 pages.
And then somebody says, How much? And they go, 500 bucks. And they go, click sign.
Done. Just take it.
Do it.

Everyone's going to be in Grizzly 2. It's a concert from 1983.
We made it in 2016. Oh, my gosh.
So it is like time travel. It is so confusing.
I will say, like,

if I had stumbled on this,

it was so, you know, it was so confusing to to watch this patchwork quilt of footage from different eras of

filmmaking. So, it is also visually the visual storytelling is all over the place.
They're making cuts, time jumps. They're making cut.
The

bullet time in the bear doesn't move.

The bear cannot move. The bears, all, by the way, also burned up in a warehouse fire in Hungary after the film was made.

I'll tell you another thing that really threw me off and had stuck with me is the

young daughter storyline where she falls in love with the musician, but there was no setup. When did that happen? All of a sudden, she's doing a scene, and he's like, Everything's just a laugh.

And she's like, What am I? And I'm like, Did I miss a 40-minute arc? A relationship came out of the blue, but that scene is perfection. I just want to listen to it for a second.
What's wrong?

Nothing, nothing at all. I just

wanted to say, uh,

we've had such fun together and

I like you a lot

But I'm nothing

I'm just uh a gypsy a clown a juggler I go from town to town I do my show and then I'm gone

It's all a game a laugh

a joke

Am I a game a laugh and a joke

Yes When did they fall in love such that he's now being awful who is he? It seems to all take place in a day. And what I really love about that scene is that he

touches his fedora like Hamlet looking at the skull, you know, and it's like, it's funny. It's like a funny actor's choice to look at that fedora and the fedora represents.

I bet his lines were written on the fedora.

Also, this... politician who's involved here she's like she nurse ratchet nurse ratchet who said she's like i took this job because I'm 50 and no one offered me any work when I was 50.

Do we also all notice an uncredited Tim Spall? No.

British actor Tim Spall, Mike Lee, favorite Tim Spall. Wow.

Peter Pettigrew from the Harry Potter movies.

When Nurse Ratchet comes up and says, we need to go over there, and he says, you can't come in here, and he's got his arm in a cast, it's like a very young Tim Spall.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, nobody allowed in here.

I think you've made a mistake. This is Senator and Mrs.
Thornton.

Don't matter who they are.

What's your name? Rob.

Thank you. Wow.

I mean, there's so much in here that's

also remote.

Based on what we were just talking about, though, can we assume that the movie wants us to believe there was a love story between the daughter of the Ranger and that pop star that we were just talking about, who's on stage?

Is it possible they shot scenes? Are there more scenes for this movie? If there are any, if there are, if there are more scenes and they chose not to put it in,

everything is in new footage. No, they're the biggest idiots in the game.

I mean, this is a movie that is, I feel like it's inept in every way. They did not, like, anything that they had, they used to be a little bit more.

They totally did shoot it. And when their film got stolen by the Hungarian government, it got lost.
I bet. Or they cut it out.

Or they cut it out. But also, the scene then when that girl is with her dad, who I did not realize was her dad, the main guy with the beard.
Yeah.

And all of a sudden, it's like, it's shot kind of sexy by the Jeep. And I was like, oh, is she going to go after like the cool lead guy? Because I thought he was going to go after the blonde lady.

And then all of a sudden, she goes, like,

I'm, I'm, hey, daddy, I'll make you proud. I'm a good little girl.
I was like, what the fuck? They might seem

the same age. They seem like

this is terrible. Yeah.
Right. You imagine being on that set with that director and being like, good, one more time, say, I'm a very good girl.
I was like, Ew,

this, this is this is why I also feel like it's also the actors feeling like they could say whatever they want. It's like, we're gonna improvise here, like, we'll have a little flirty thing.

Because probably in real life, they were a little bit close in age, right?

Because doesn't she say, like, you know, there's something about it where I feel like they don't know, or like, there was enough people there that no one was like, there was no script supervisor that's a really funny idea.

Two actors who are improvising and they don't realize their father and daughter is seen but the old guy's like look at you sweetheart you look wonderful and it's like every video village is like it's a very sexual vibe he says that thing he goes do you go for daddy you're a gopher what you go for this you go for that you go for your old man

in a big way oh yeah we have a kiss

like do you go for dad or like what like that's a weird thing because she's gonna be a gopher is like you go for this you go for that you go for daddy i was like oh i felt felt weird.

Never should you talk to you.

Right after that, he was like, the actor was like, look, I'm the lead of this movie. Would you like to get dinner?

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Now, I understand that obviously we need to have our bears out there killing people, but this is a movie that takes place in a state park, and it feels like they've never had a bear problem ever, right?

Like they have no infrastructure to deal with this grizzly, but yet also, this grizzly is not just a grizzly that's out for killing, it's a giant grizzly that has never been seen.

It's like it's a Godzilla of grizzlies, which is also just

a psycho grizzly. It's 20 feet tall.
Yes. I mean, they keep saying they're finding claw marks 18 feet up in trees.

Like, it is, and when they try and give you perspective, when the bear finally gets, yeah, when the bear finally gets to the festival, some people, yes, appear as though they're looking at a kaiju, and some people are like, oh, there's a bear over there.

My favorite part is when the bear kills, like, there's like a little, there's a couple things that we're following. We're following, we're following the bear people trying to solve the bear problem.

We're following the concert people.

And then we're also following

this is what I was talking about.

How about the drug dealer?

Well, the drug dealer from Jamaica who's got great weed from Hawaii.

I got that music.

Oh, how about the guy who was running it with the cool glasses?

I love that guy. That guy had a great, you know, that kind of reminded me of.
You know, I just, I was playing cards last night and I heard, and I can't believe I heard this for the first time.

I'm sure you guys know this, but do you know about Joni Mitchell's Blackface era? Oh, yeah. You do? No.
I do. Jason, can you tell me all about it? Because I just heard about it yesterday.

I mean, not my facebook.

Wow. Wow.
Jason is wearing a Joni Mitchell shirt.

They have, in modern times, changed the

jacket, the cover art for Don Juan's Reckless Daughter because it featured a picture.

So Joni, for a period of time, would do a blackface character. And she would go to parties at it.
I'm looking at it right now.

Oh, Lord. Oh, yeah.
Oh, Lord.

Oh. Yes, Paul.
This is a real thing. Whatever you are imagining, you will be more shocked when you see it.
It looks like she's out of a black exploitation film.

Like, I mean, this is like a character that might have been in dolomite

the way that I'm looking at it right here.

Wow. Joni Mitchell.
She was doing this at parties in Laurel Canyon and everybody was like,

wow. I mean, by the way, and I want to call out, because you said it, like, yeah, she's in blackface, but she's also in drag.

She's a black actor. It's a man.

She is a

man. Yes, you're right.
Oh, my Lord. All right.
Now, I will say, just to kind of

lift up my theory that the lead actor was trying to get some flirting in, this is a quote that

the Nurse Ratchet said, Louise Fresher, she said that when she met with the director, Andre Satz, he said, did you read the script? And she said, yes, of course I read the script.

And he goes, movie, we make nothing to do with script.

So

that is. I'm going to get from a director and then say yes.

I love that the director is like, no, no, no, and we won't use that. So that we get the idea that this movie is kind of loose and letting everybody go, you know, wherever they want to go here.

But I will say that it causes a lot of weird problems because at one point when they're having a meeting about the concert, there's a line where a character says, we're going to have 80 to 100,000 people here.

And then I was like, okay, oh, I was sorry. I was like, now I'm saying it out loud.
Now it makes sense. I was thinking 80, like 80, 80,

80, 10 to 100,000. Now I see it.
I was about to, I was like, you know what? I think we all saw that happen to you in real time. Yeah, I felt like that.

I was like, what's so bad about that? And then I was like, oh, I just saw it.

In my mind, I was like, How could you have less than a hundred or more than a hundred thousand?

You really don't know how well your tickets are selling if that's where you're at. Well, and by the way, I'm projecting anywhere between 80 people and 100,000.

The staff, like, how many security people do we hire? Like, I honestly don't know.

It's weird that drinks do we have the concessions? I mean, that's what that's why I thought that they were so confused. Like, yeah, we don't have enough security guards for this event.

We only thought we had about 55 people here. We either have so much security or so little.
We hired 1,500 people. I also like that bears

have this. This is a very Jaws 4 kind of territory.
Like, Jaws 4, he's hunting down the family that killed.

Well, wasn't that also called the revenge? It was, Jason. Jaws 4, the revenge, yes, with Michael Cain.

And yes, so this is a bear that is just met. And it seems like the bear is so specific about enacting revenge, but not on the people that created the situation.

Like the first kill are just three innocent kids who were not the poachers. And then he seems to kill only innocent people.
Like there's no, like, I mean, the poachers, I guess, finally get it.

I love, speaking of the poachers, they were fun.

I like those poachers.

I wish we'd been with them more.

The part where the guy is talking about how they're going to split the money when they sell the bear's gallbladder, and he's just inexplicably holding a rabbit around the neck in shot like this.

He's like, it's split 100,000. I'm not good with numbers, but four times four is 25, but times two is 50.
And then there's no, and then suddenly the poachers are shooting each other.

Well, by the way, that scene about the gallbladder money, what I loved about that was like, they come in like, hey, Luke, your brother's dead.

Anyway, I think we go kill that bear and then we go get his gallbladder. And he's like, they just run over that your brother was killed by a bear He's like my brother's dead.

Oh, no, and they're like yeah, man Get out. We got this That's how we should all start treating it though

Let's just start living like we're in Grizzly too. Oh, we got to become poachers

Everybody does wasn't there a scene I'm I was At that point of the movie, I was getting mad at it, but where they all like start wrestling or dancing or they wake up.

What was that moment where I was like they were just such like clown performers where they were just letting everybody

drinking? Oh, yeah. They're just letting everybody know that they're trained actors.
Yeah. And they're like, they're grabbing each other's butts and dancing around.
I was just clearly four men.

And you see this a lot with actors where it's four men in their 50s where all of a sudden they were like, man, this takes me back. Now we get to act.
And you're like, what is this movement?

You're a poacher. No, now they are.
They're like, they're fighting. I feel they were actors.
I do feel like America is currently in its poacher era.

Like, the country definitely feels like we're consumed by poacher, the poacher mentality. It's all of a sudden really cool to like murder a lion and stand by it.

There was an era where we all admitted, like, that sucks. And now we're like, that's pretty cool, man.
It's a pretty big-ass lion you murdered for no reason.

Now there's a lot of people getting infected with the poacher mind virus.

But here's the thing. These poachers don't even care that they would be killing a big bear.
They're like, we just got to get this gallbladder back to San Francisco. Like, that's it.
Like,

they're not even like

sends. Yeah, they have to.
And I love it, too. I always love that the poachers are always after the thing that is reported to be an aphrodisiac.
Yeah. Like, that's it.

All they want is money and sex. Yes.
Yeah. All they want is the money and the boners.
That's it. That's what we have.
By the way, a thumbs up appeared on Paul's screen. You said money and boners.

That might have been. But you didn't.

I wish it was not.

Maybe it was me just giving the thumbs up. No, it was.
I literally think you were thinking such a positive thing that your computer heard your thoughts and popped a thumbs up.

You have the Neuralink setup, right? You are the first neural company. It came with my Tesla.
It was not a big deal. I was in and out in the same day.
It was great.

Speaking of boners. Yes.

How about the George Clooney Laura Dern opening? Incredible.

Like, all of a sudden, I was like, he's really slopping kisses on. And she does that weird European dance when she takes her clothes off.
I was like,

this is a wild. And then Chuck Sheen looking hot is like hiding up in the woods.
I was like, what's all happening here? It's like these three people are going to go camping.

And with the implicit knowledge, like, and then when we fuck, you got to go away from us. Like, just go around the corner.
Yeah.

I also want to just highlight for everybody because I don't know if you all noticed, but they say that they hiked, they hiked 20 miles. Yeah.
And Laura Dern is wearing a strappy wedge-heeled sandal.

She's wearing a two-inch wedge-heeled

sandal. No one's nobody sweats.
They look great. They look great.
Movies used to do a thing that I thought was going to be adulthood, and it's not.

And that is, if you go out with a couple, they're going to fuck so soon, and you're just expected to like run up a hill. That's never happened.
And they're going to, here's the thing.

They're going to start while you're there. Yes.
And they're going to start while you're there. And it's incumbent on you to know, hey, I got to make myself.
Well, guess what?

If I don't get out of here, I'm just watching my friends have intercourse.

And then I'm the bad guy? Yeah.

Hold on. That's not a pervert.

I'm in my sleeping bag watching you guys. Where else are you going to woke me up?

And by the way,

I'm touching myself. You're having sex right near me.
I'm not watching you and masturbating. I was masturbating and I see you.
It was in the middle of their conversation, too.

It wasn't like, hey, we're turning out for the night it was like hey yeah i saw that movie that was kind of good all right we're now we're fucking oh it's like they they start going at it there was also the intimation it also felt like there was the intimate they were intimating that charlie sheen was in love with laura dern but that she was with clooney right like i felt like they were setting that up in more here and there yeah and i was more charlie was just adding a lawyer for us maybe you're right but i was trying to be like okay oh so this is it going to be a movie about this three these three and blah blah blah and then i was like oh wait all three die immediately in the same scene this is crazy you know that's a bit yeah that's a bit though that people have been trying to do they probably have at this point but there was a period for like every big action comedy movie it was try to get the biggest star you can and have them die in the first scene oh yeah they actually do it in this i will tell you it's the other guy yes that's exactly right the other guys did it but you're like it's a funny idea What's disappointing in it is that you're like, I would love to see those three in this movie as opposed to having to watch these other guys.

You've pulled the car, like, you've pulled the rug out from under us now, because now we have to not be with these people

Charlie Sheen and George and Laura Dern deal with a grizzly more than I want to see that weird pervert with the beard hitting on his daughter. I also, here's the other thing.

You know, you were upset that Charlie Sheen didn't go do Karate Kid. I kind of think he would have been too cool to be Karate Kid.

Like, Charlie Sheen, great actor, especially in that time, but I don't, I don't know if he's got the, like, I don't feel like, you know, William Zabka could be beating up Charlie Sheen.

I feel like Charlie Sheen would just like lay him out one, two, three. How about a young Charlie Sheen? Yeah.
You know Charlie Sheen post major league and post

Platoon. Yeah, right.
But we just grew up on that guy. But the other guy was Emilio's little goofball brother.
Okay. Emilio was the hunk.
Charlie was Carlos Estimo.

Which is a statement you never think you're going to say. Emilio was the hunk.
But by the way, Emilio at that era, oh my gosh. He's the guy.

and then his little brother carlos get out of here dude you're not even that good of an actor i i love you just want to do what emilio does you're talented i love when like when andrew mccarthy comes to emilio's house in that documentary he did about the brat pack like i i like emilio a lot like he's just over it like not into this guy and you could see emilio getting like low-key pissed off at him like all right man get the out of my house now like it's like oh this documentary is great it's basically andrew mccarthy um not getting over that there was one article that called him the brat pack, and everyone else is over it.

Like to the point where, like,

except for him, and he's like trying to get people to be like, Aren't you upset about this? And they're like, no, no. And like, it goes so far to it.
20 years ago, man.

Like, Rob Lowe literally is like, Are you kidding me? It's the best book of fun of my life. Amazing.
It was great. Like, everyone's like, no, it was fine.
It was fine. He's like, no, it labeled us.

It was bad. We were wronged.
Yeah. And so he

just can't get anyone else

in the world cares, but just holding on to

a grudge or a grievement in a way that is just not even remotely acceptable at this age. What I will say, even though I agree, he's insane.

Imagine being in that group where you guys think you're the next thing. Oh, yeah.
And you're like, we finally done it. Everybody's young and cool.
You're doing good stuff.

And you're like, they got the rat pack. Then you got the Jack Nicholson crew.
You got the Pacinos and the Neros. Who are we? And you go, the Brat Pack?

No, we're doing good movies. Didn't they? Wasn't there an attempt to label the Vince Vaughan, Jack Black generation as the Frat Pack? Yes.

I remember that. After an old school vibe.
That's it. That's, I think, what it was, maybe.

And it seems like, I mean, everything I've read from that time, the Brat Pack, it's like, this writer had a little bit of an edge. He's like, fuck these people.

Cause they're out partying and they're being cool. Like, and there's a little bit of a, you know.
It was mean. It was mean.

But it was, uh, but if you're right, they were doing good movies, or at least. The movies were awesome.
Yeah. They were great movies.
The great were all young.

Also, what a way to elevate a dumb article. Yes.

Which is to become obsessed with it. To become obsessed with

just one piece of writing. Imagine like Tim Chalamay, Austin Butler, whoever else are those like, you know, Jeremy Allen White, all this like great group.
And you're like.

guys, this whole group together, put them in a cover and call them like the new geek squad.

No, these guys aren't the geek squad. And you're like, the geeks.

the Austin Butler on a motorcycle being like the geeky James Dean. You're like, just look at that.
Straight from bike riders.

Just kill him.

And then everybody called him the geek squad. It would be...

We should get that going now. We should just.

We should be like, we should encourage people. We should tell everybody that all of those young Hollywood hot actors are the geeks.
Oh, you just refer to the new Superman.

Yeah, the new Superman movie has got a couple of those Geek Squad guys in it.

That lead guy's in the Geek Squad, and then the woman from Mazel's was a Geek Squad. She's kind of Geek Squad.

You do it like Nick Holt is British Geek Squad. You know what we could actually do? How yacht music is.
Yeah. It's very clear who's Yacht music and who's not.

We could actually create real rules and rules in the Geek Squad. Because I will say the woman from Mazel is not Geek Squad, but I do think the lead Superman is Geek Squad.

Yeah, well, Geek Squad, I think, well, definitely Nicholas Holt is Geek Squad, according to Austin. Nick Holt is pretty close to Geek Squad.
Austin Butler is Geek Squad. 100%.
I'm Geek Squad.

And I think that this is like, well, all we have to do is say it with confidence, and then people will start to adopt it.

Now, here's the question:

How soon are we going to get a cease and desist from Best Buy? Okay.

We're spelling squad differently. Yeah.
Okay, good.

Who is the Mount Rushmore of Geek Squad? All right. So Tim Shadow, Tim C.

Tim C. Austin Butler.
I think Jeremy Ellen White. Jeremy Ellen White.
Jeremy Allen White. Like, I'm trying to think of who else is.
Is there a lady in the geek squad? Or is it very much a.

I mean, Margo Robbie is not in the

squad? No. Zendaya? She was before them.
No. No, yeah, she's there.
I think so. Yeah.
They start a little bit younger. They got their own thing.
Oh, Jacob Alordi should be in the Geek Squad. Yes.

Alordi is Geek Squad. Alordi is Geek Squad.

He's total Geek Squad.

And he's great.

Oh, I'm assuming somebody is going to Photoshop all of these actors wearing Geek Squad polo. Oh, my.
But those guys as the pillars of Geek Squad is awesome. And guess what?

Anybody who's been rocking a tiny mustache lately, Geek Squad. Geek Squad.
I love Geek Squad. Geek Squad.

And all we need to do is just get a couple, like send a little article into Deadline, send a blind submission into Dumois and be like, just call it a squad. Saw some Geek Squadron out there on street.

Wait, Squad SQWAD.

Squad. S-Q-D.
That is

Geek Squad. That's funny.

Here's what I'll say. And I know we're having a lot of people.
Isn't he Geek Squad? Or is she too early for Geek Squad? He actually might be. Oh, you know who else is? It's Glenn Powell.

Glenn Powell, but he's a little bit older.

He's been. To me, he predates Geek Squad.
But he and her in that romance movie they did might have been the birth of George.

That's a Geek.

That's a Geek Squad rom-com.

But that is like the beginning of like, there's a movement here. These guys made $100 million doing this movie.
I think this was the birth of Geek Squad.

Here's what I want to be very clear to say: I want to be in Geek Squad. We all want to be in Geek Squad, but you don't know if you can be in the Geek Squad.

You're Geek Squad right now. You want to be in Geek Squad so bad.

I'll shave a mustache. So old.
Can't be in Geek Squad.

Are you kidding me?

I'm Geek Squad dad. Here's what you could do in Geek Squad.
You could play a guy who works at a store when the Geek Squad comes in as a cool scene and you can go

excuse me you forgot to pay

now here's the thing the reason why they're geek squad is because they bought a hangout place they bought an old best buy and that's where they can actually party and just be away from like the blues brothers guys yes yeah this is

because now new york and la sucks you know so they actually got it in like near omaha yeah yeah it's out in new it has to be out in

like a mid-sized city in america it's the best all right so here's i'm just gonna to give you a couple of people. Just tell me yes or no.
Are they Geek Squad?

Margaret Qualey. Geek Squad? Geek Squad.
Yeah, she feels Geek Squad. Geek Squad, big time.
She's a geek squad. Yeah, she's very geek squad.
I would say,

and then, I mean, and then I would go on the fence with like Haley Steinfeld. I mean, she's been around for a while.
No. That she's okay.
All right. And then Florence Pugh? No.
No. Okay.

And I agree with, by the way, I agree with, but this is the one that I'm the most. Who are we? Who are we to judge?

Do you know who we are, Jason? We're fans of the the Geek Squad. Yes.
Yes.

Just like I'm a fan of the Brat Pack. Big time.
Jenna Ortega. Geek Squad.
Geek Squad.

Big time is right. Now,

I'm looking through some names here. We had Anna Taylor Joy, but I don't know if she's Geek Squad.
I don't know. I don't think she's Geek Squad.
I don't feel like she's Geek Squad.

You got to make something very clear about Geek Squad. And this is, I think, what you were saying, Jason, with the we want to be in the movie.
This isn't an insult. No.
No. This is like

a movement of people. So, to say the frat pack, guess those guys were frat pack.
Yeah, Vince Vaughn, Jack Black, Owen Wilson, they seemed like the funniest guys in a frat. Will Farrell? Yes.

That you were like, Yeah, they probably didn't like that. They're like, We don't, no, we're serious actors who are comedic actors.

But I was like, I don't know, when you guys all get together, it just feels like you're laughing at those funny older guys that you go, I'm not in your frat, but you guys are so funny.

Yeah, Geek Squad fixes all the technology. Yeah, this is a good thing.
Now, there were other ones, the Brit Pack. The Brit Pack was Gary Oldman, Tim Roth, Colin Firth, Daniel Day-Lewis.

Then there was the Rat Pack Revival. Well, I guess that's this them older.
I'm looking at some websites here that just feels like AI created those two.

The it girl boom. I don't know if that's a thing.
Deadline tried to create that. I guess really Brit Pack, Brit Pack, and Fat, and Frat Pack is in here.

You were going to say Fat Pack. I was like, Fat Pack.
That's mean spirited. They're like, oh man, my movie in Alaska, I got put in the fat pack.

I do like Geek Squad. Geek Squad feels.
Geek Squad's great. Yeah.

And but I'll tell you what's positive about Geek Squad.

Because for older people, when you buy technology and you get your first big flat screen, you're putting on a wall and you go, I don't know how to hang it and get all these different things in there.

When the Geek Squad shows up, you think this is the wrong name for what you do because it's a hell of a service. You're very good at it, it's very efficient, and you fixed my house.
They are the

old squad. This is what I see.
They're the bridge from the old to new. Because, look, you know what? My mom may not be interested in going to the movies every week, but she knows Timothy Chalamet.

He bridges. He bridges.

I like about Timmy. Uh, Timmy C.
When he wins that award, he gets up there and goes, I want to be one of the greats. Yeah, yeah, great.
I want to be in the original rap pack.

That's why I got my geek squad. That guy Jacob is hot as hell.
He's doing cool movies. Sidney Sweeney is doing the news.

Yeah, you're like, you guys are killing it. This is a group.
The geek squad is coming. This is the next generation.
By the way,

all they lack is a moniker. We're speaking about this as if they all listen to the podcast and are like, we're so mad right now.
They're so like.

But here's what I feel.

And here's what the new era, which we all know has changed and it's way more about technology. So now who are like, you know, this movie I just did, the dink we were talking about.

Well, what's the the release of it? Apple bought it. Okay, cool.
So what does that mean? Who knows? You know what the Geek Squad does? Fixes your technology. Yeah.

They make technology cool where I go, when I hear this stuff as an old timer, I go like, well, what's the theatrical release? How many?

And they go like, hey,

they're like, hey, Jake, your movie's coming out on TikTok in 90-second intervals. It's going to have a 22-meet release.

I'll never do it. You get one guy in the geek squad.
All of a sudden, I'm going, I would love to be in, I would love to be the waiter in the restaurant of of your 90-second microphone.

Can I tell you, Leonardo DiCaprio is in TikToks now with the young girl from One Battle After the Other.

Like, he's trying to get a little bit of that taste because she's trying to get, I mean, she's trying to get in that geek squad, I'm sure.

I think this is, I think one of the demarcating lines for the Geek Squad is they are a generation of digital native actors. Yes.
They are,

they get it, and they grew up with it. Well, you know, you got to also say about the Geek squad,

and this is, you can't get a job at best buying the geek squad unless you're one of the best at it. Yeah.
Well, let's not loft the geek squad up that high. I feel like it wasn't that.

I'm going to, Paul, I'm going to. And I'll tell you.
They're the greatest actors of our generation. No, no, no.
They're the greatest actors.

I think

we're putting a lot of weight on

the job interview process for the geek squad. How about this? Imagine if you have a new starer.
You try to get it set up. Yeah, yeah, sure.
You pay the 85 bucks. Some guy shows up.

He's from from the geek squad and he goes, don't know. Right.

They know everything. Better know, dude.
And guess what? I've had them here a lot. They always know.
I like the geek squad. Now, they might have to come back two or three times.
Sure.

But they don't have all the stuff in their truck. And guess what? They don't charge each time.
No, because they will come. They will do the act.
Yeah, they get it.

It's a compliment to be in the gig squad. I like the geek squad.

Now, I will say,

if you're ever in the outskirts of New Mexico, stop by.

Yeah, just hang out. Maybe you see him walking in and out of that best buy.

You see Chalamet bring it.

They bring their own chairs in there and stuff. They're cool.

This movie, Grizzly 2.

Who gives a shit? We're talking about

Geek Squad.

Just need to figure out who else is Geek Squad.

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Here's my question. Did you guys feel like that the bear in this movie would have better, would have been better if they had cast instead maybe one of the bears from Country Bears Jamboree?

Like one of the big animatronics. Maybe Liver Lips McGrowl or...
Teddy Barra?

You know, Big Al? The bears from Country Bear Jamboree, more emotive. I love that you ended on Big Al, the most notable

bear from Country Bear Jamboree. I'm just going in order.
Okay.

I will say this. There's a, I mean, many famous stories about why jaws work, right? The shark didn't work.
There's a play, the shark's still not working. There's books about how the shark didn't work.

And what did Spielberg do? He took that and used it to create something that was full of drama and tension. It feels like in movies like this, they're like, yeah, the bear doesn't look real.

I'll shoot it anyway. Like no one ever has learned from the lesson.
It's like, oh, yeah, well, what he did was not shoot the shark and made a movie without it until the very end. And then,

yeah, the crazy thing is, the bear clearly could not move. So it was just a matter of putting the bear in the foreground or the background of shots and having the what, whatever.

So it'd be like the concert, and the bear would be super close to Lens, and you could see the concert fuzzy in the background. And you're like, oh, oh, I guess the bear has gotten to the concert.

Again, 100,000 people at a concert, one big 480. Yeah.
480.

80 people, a big grizzly bear is a threat. And 100,000 people.

By the way, they are protected. They are protected because they are in a grouping of, it's not like they're all across the world.
Well, the concert doesn't stop. Right.

The concert isn't interrupted by the bear.

You got a band from the future playing. There's a band from 2016 doing 2016 banger.
The show is going to go on.

I mean, first of all, this bear is so big that John Rhys Davies, who is a bigger man, was able to jump on it like a telephone pole.

and like

the strongest man ever. A strong

strong man.

Bouchard? Bouchard getting that human sense. Bouchard, he's got the, what is it, the lasso made of a bear?

He and Stephen Seagal, and I don't know who invented this look, but there was a style in the 80s that some bigger, thicker white guys invented.

Where it was just taking a few cultures, throwing on an accent where I don't know where it was from, maybe doing a high pony, maybe having a thin beard. And it was just culturally open.

So you're just describing Sagal. Yeah.

And maybe the beard is heavily dyed.

And maybe he also plays blues guitar. Maybe he does a Cajun accent.

Maybe he became a sheriff. Oh, my God.
Maybe he released an energy drink as well. And maybe became friends with Putin.

He has Russian citizenship now. One quick question, and then I will drop this because I can tell from the tone of you two, it's time to move on.
Oh, it's a good idea.

I'm sure your audience is ready to hear.

Are we going back to the geek squad? I just need to finish with Geek Squad. Please.
And look, I do it on my own podcast all the time. It's over.
Everybody's bored of it.

But if we were to recast this movie with Geek Squad,

this is a question. I love it.
Who's playing who? All right.

Now let's not start with Charlie Sheen, those guys. No, no.
We have to have the three of them play themselves in this movie as old guys. Who's Bouchard? Who is you want to go start with?

Bouchard's the big character, Ilordi. Ilordi, only because he's big, he's a big

Ilordi is like 6'2 or 6'3. I was only starting with Bouchard because that's the only character I know by okay.
How about the main guy with the beard? Who's your true protagonist?

That's Jeremy Allen White. You got it.
Totally right. Yeah, that feels good.
Who is the blonde woman who cares about conservation? Bare scientists. Sidney Swiss.
Bear scientists. Yeah, Sidney Swiss.

Or I could see that also being played with a Jenna Ortega kind of a link. I could, too.
Sure, sure, sure. In your dream world, who would you cast?

Well, no, I think what you do is you cast Jenna Ortega as Jeremy Allen White's daughter. That's the

play.

And that's the weirdness of the game. You have the same setup as a game.
Do you go for daddy? Yeah, do you go for daddy?

Okay, great. I like this.

Then you've got Jacob as Brouchard. Yeah.
I think so. I mean, there aren't any, like, there aren't any big

geek squads. Well, because you got to get behind the TV at times.
Yeah, we need we need like a bit a big who's the big you need a guy to bring in this stuff. Yeah, the delivery guy in geek squad.

I'm also thinking like who is who's our deliverance crew? Like these are our actor actors. Again, I may I may pull a lordy into the deliverance crew, like Holt, a lordy.

Like it's it's these, you know, these guys are going a little bit, maybe I'm trying to think of another one in that world that could be going real deep in the poacher.

See, it can get deep in the poacher. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. He would be great.
There you go. That's a good poacher crew.

All right. I feel pretty good about it.

I feel pretty happy with it. I like it.
And, you know, and maybe what I do. I could also see Sidney Sweeney as a lady poacher.

I was about to say, and I didn't want to say it. I think there would be a female poacher now, and there would be no comments about the fact that there was a female poacher.

Well, Jake, I was going to say this. I want to move off my original casting and pitch you both.

You know, I don't know if you are familiar, but Sidney Sweeney is now in this box bulked up in this boxing movie i'm like maybe she's bouchard whoa

i actually i love it i do i mean i don't like it i do like it now i hear why it's a good pitch right okay but i feel like it's going to be a big thing that the hollywood's going to like we're going to be excited about and no one in the world's going to like it they're going to want to see they don't want to see her like jumping on a bear they're going to go You get Sidney Sweeney, one of the greatest-looking actresses of the game.

You got her in a black, weird wig and a beard, and she's heavy. Wait, wait, you're going to be a little bit more.
She's going to Joni Mitchell it. She's going to play him in?

Hey, Bouchard doesn't change. You got to wear the same clothes.
Oh, wow. I was reimagining Bouchard.
Okay, okay.

Okay, all right, all right. Now, now we're on the same thing.

I want to see Jay

in those clothes. Yeah.

Back to the original character. Stolen Valor.
Full cultural appropriation. And he's the only character I want it word perfect.

going to ask you to rethink his stuff accent perfect too it's got to hit that

um i will say this if i was also casting i don't know if she's fully in geek squad but i don't remember but there is a french maid waitress that is serving people in the uh during the concert there's like no oh there's a a moment where they cut away to like a server like just delivering drinks on the table where like the uh the summit captain is like and she's just dressed like from like a murder mystery like like that kind of maids totally and i was like that could be sabrina Carpenter.

I think she could do a fun part in there. Oh, yeah.
You know, Sabrina Carpenter. She's Geek Squad.
I think Sabrina Carpenter is. You do? Well, she's a musician.

I don't know if we put musicians in, yeah.

Look, I wouldn't put her or any of me go in there. I'm speaking generationally.
I mean, like, they are Geek Squad adjacent. They might be adjacent, but I'm not putting those.
I'm fine with it.

I'm not going to. I'm not going to be able to do that.
But I hear exactly what you're saying. No, I mean, it's right, but it's also wrong.
But here's the thing. To be clear, Taylor Swift, not

hangs with Geek Squad, but is above geek squad like i think that should respect look is jennifer lawrence like the godmother of geek squad that's what i was thinking well that's what i like i feel like that's like a little geek squad but without if you don't there's no geek squad without jennifer lawrence i i agree

i agree like you want that like you and you want those people like you know tom cruise famously not in the brat pack but with if there's no tommy cruise there's no brat pack exactly so then no jennifer lawrence you would never have geek squad but when she broke on the scene you're like she's a great actress she's great looking she also could, she kind of could be in Geek Squad, though, too.

I think she's the original Geek Squad before there was enough Geek Squad to fill it in. That's why she's like, oh, what she does.
She's Geek Squad.

I think she paved the way for Geek Squad to exist. Yeah, she walked so Geek Squad could run.
There you go.

But you're right that she is a little bit different because she's also connected to the older generation. So she's a little bit old school.
I would put her more in the Haley Steinfeld class.

I would totally.

But also, Haley's Haley walked so they could run. And where is Zendaya? Zendaya.

Shaleen Woodley as well. And Tom Holland are in whatever that group is.
They just don't have a title. Okay, got it.

They have their own thing going on. But Geek Squad definitely...
I got to say, we might be wrong on Jeremy White.

You know, I actually think that too. I was going to say he's not Geek Squad.
He's not? He's too old for him for Geek Squad, right? And also, look at him from Shameless. Because of Shameless? Yes.

Okay, okay, okay. Now, if there was no...
But he certainly seems to be culturally Geek Squad. no, you know who he is.
If he was a beatnik, he's William Burroughs.

He's not in them, he's older, but you're like, they all look up to him. But they don't revere him.
I don't think they look up to him the way that the beats looked up to Burroughs.

I think they do deep down. Really? I think they all want to be in the Bears.

I think you want to have

somebody

Bruce Springston.

Yeah, Paul Mascal. But they're the Geek Squad.
Geek Squad. Geek Squad.
Yes. Yeah, right?

The British Geek Squad. I think he takes

Jeremy Allen White. Yes.

I don't think that's right.

I think he's just a little bit different.

I agree. He has a rich cigarettes publicly.
Yeah,

I think the Geek Squad has to have a little bit of youth on them, too. It's a very fine line.

What's interesting as well is almost everybody we've talked about are feature film actors, and Jeremy Allen White is primarily a TV actor. Does that change it? Well, we'll see at this award season.

By the way, yeah.

No, Jeremy Allen White's going to do whatever he wants now. Oh, the world.

He's incredibly talented.

You are right. But I do think the reason that Jeremy is a different animal is he's a veteran.
And I know I don't count when you're a kid actor. I like Adam Driver.
Yeah. Yes.

But Adam Driver's for sure not Geek Squad. No, no, no, no way.
He's just one of those vet, you're like, at a certain point, you are without a group.

And these guys eventually will, one of them will make a documentary where they'll go, like, can you believe those guys on that podcast called us the Geek Squad?

And the other ones will go, I never heard it.

They wrecked our careers. What's up? They wrecked our breakening careers.

What's up?

Leaving those geezers in their closets.

We are definitely making a Geek Squad shirt for this episode. I feel like we should list them all like your favorite players from a basketball team or something.

By the way, Geek Squad does still exist. I am looking here.
It does. I was going to ask.

You can can chat with a geek squad agent at any time you give them a call but again we're not spelled the same way we're not our geek squad's not spelled the same way wow we really went i mean we did it i don't even think i don't even know we have anything more to say about the movie that's what i i kind of feel like we've we've done it all we've said it all and i will tell you this uh jake i love your show You are fantastic on this podcast.

You're fantastic in everything, but I'm just going to talk about this podcast because we're here to help.

It's like Monday, Wednesdays, occasionally some Fridays. You got great rotating people coming in.

But you and Gareth are great. You are funny.

Jason, have you ever done it? No, never done it.

I've never been invited. Jason, wow.
You are publicly invited. I was like, so furious.
June and I have both done it. I'm going to support you from here on out.
Yes.

But not for Geek Squad. June and I have done it.

And what I think is so fun is it, by the way, if you like this episode where we are devolving into Geek Squad, I think you're going to love We're Here to Help because

it is a show that is prone to fun tangents. You get to go off.
I got to tell you, our base audience gets very upset with me. I'm the one they're liking the least these days.

Oh my God, just because you changed down in the tangent. What's funny about a base audience, which I love our group, and it's what I didn't realize is about podcasts.

They're like, you just form your group, and every once in a while, you get some new people, but there's the main group. The main group has so many opinions.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

And

they're getting so mad.

Our audience is going to be very upset about this. Just wait.
Yes, this episode

is going to be infuriating to them. That we had this great

movie that we have now spent. And by the way, I wouldn't change a view.
I can't believe I watched that whole movie and they didn't talk about it for more than 10 minutes.

The audience gets they're obviously just jealous of younger actors, beat squad bullshit.

I wish Nick Miller would stop talking so much.

And that guy who kind of looks like him.

They're so me. I will tell you this much.

There is

some facts that I think are interesting about it. You talk about the bears being bad.
They went to David Prouse, who played Darth Vader, to be the bear. And he interviewed.

And then they said, you know what? We don't need that guy. We'll just hire a very tall mime.

And they hired a mime. Is that true? Yep.
They went with a Hungarian mime. And

I did feel like when when they did were able to trap the bear in the invisible box, that did that. That was satisfying.
By the way, that's the best ending moment of any movie.

A bear running through a concert stage, getting caught in it, and I guess electrocuted. Electrocuted.
Electrocuted. Question mark?

And then, what was that final line from Nurse Ratchet where she said, like, you stand part of the show?

Yes.

Yes, it is.

That's a weird ending. Oh.
Very weird. No, we don't catch up with any of the main characters again.
Oh, resolutely.

We end on tertiary characters, not real joke live. And why does she even want to get back?

So she's now running a public park and she wants to get back to DC, but it would seem like she was disgraced in some way. She's like, the Congress is a little bit more like a bad thing.

And the way she's trying to impress them is to invite them to her rock concert in the park. Doesn't make any sense.
And then I also love the way they speak about the rock concert.

They're like, this is how you've set it up? It's like, yeah, it's a one-night only event. We will be building until the show starts, and then we will be taking it down.

It's not like you've built the house and we're having no, it's like, yeah, that's we're building a stage for a one-night. Yeah, this is it.

We don't, you didn't build Woodstock a year before Woodstock happened. They'd be like, no, it's like, all these stages are still up.
You never take them down. And

there are so many ideas here that were just not executed in any way as far as like

a simple plot. Yeah, they didn't finish it.
I couldn't tell you what the story was for most of these characters. They just seem to be

scenes stitched together. In it could be like in any order almost to talk to your audience for a second who's upset about this episode and the tangent we went on.

Is this not the perfect type of episode for Grizzly 2?

A stitched together movie that had no through line, that all of a sudden you're in a movie from 83, then you're in a karaoke video, and a guy's in a game, what am I literally watching? Yeah.

And then it just goes to the left. Then there's a scene between a dad and a daughter that's sexual and they go, what? And she's like,

I'm going to make you proud. Then you're, I'm like, what galaxy? So of course we went to Geek Squad because Grizzly 2 made us go there.
You can't control where we go. Grizzly 2 inspired Geek Squad.

This is part of the legacy, the long-lasting legacy. Well, that's the time that we have to spend with Grizzly 2.

And you know, if there was any doubt in your mind, we're not going to do second opinions today, only because who really has an earnest five-star review?

But you know, and I don't think there are many, but I will tell you that there is one that we found. Actually, Molly found it.

Our investigation has led us to believe that this is from the

special effects designer. So I'll read it to you.

The movie is given five out of five stars. And

the title is called Crew. perspective.
I read the comments that there were problems with the animatronic 14-foot bear. That might be what the texts were told in the U.S., but there was no such item.

The 14-foot version was a puppet that was intended to be used on the full-size stage, and although shots were completed before leaving Hungary, the half-size animatronic version was complete and working prior to leaving Hungary too, and we shot tests of it at that time.

I had an agreement with Joe Proctor to direct half-size effects and elements. Other than that, there was a man in a suit version that was complete.

We were finished and ready to shoot in coordination with the storyboard that I also supervised with Tony Beasley.

The money dried up and the crew's personal equipment was seized by the government who told us that they were held against non-payment of production bills. We never got our stuff out of there.

And that's why, guys, we're going to make the movie that the geek squad will star in where they go in and get the camera equipment. They go back to Hungary.

I feel like, how many other reels of unseen film are there on the shelves in random countries? Miami Connection is found in a storage locker, right? There are these movies that people find. And

look,

that's what we did. We did this.
We did it. Jake, thank you.
We did it. Thank you for being with us.

I love the Geek Squad.

I'm going to think about the Geek Squad a lot. Yeah, we're going to, I'm assuming we're going to start a text thread about the Geek Squad.
That's what we need.

Look, I know it shouldn't catch on, but it's really good.

I really like the geek squad. And if we can just subtly get it out there, like this is what I've seen kind of pop up.

I know it's a little inside baseball, but I've heard a lot of executives use the term meta, and they've called, and they go, well, Barbie's meta. And then I've heard like Naked Guns meta.

And I think that they don't want to call it a comedy, so they call it meta. So I think that these things can take on.
Like, Barbie's not meta.

But I think that all we need to do is say it to a couple people and make them feel uncomfortable about it. Like, we don't explain it.
Three of us have the kind of reach in meetings. Yes.

Where all we need to say, maybe here's the goal. Yeah.
We never say that this is where it started. We've just heard it where you go, like, oh, Withering Heights looks great.

And then you go, like, well, I mean, you got one of the kings of the Greek squad in it.

So you know it's going to, you know, not only is it going to work financially, but you know, it's going to be good quality.

And they go, one of the members, and you go, oh, the squad, no, you just call them the squad.

It needs to come back to us. That's when we know that we have to.
S-Q-W-A-D.

Yes, when we hear it from someone else. I also think we should say it as if we, obviously we didn't come up with this, but like, oh, what do they call them? The geek squad? You know what we could do?

Here's what we could do, guys. We got to call them the G squad.
Oh,

hide it a little bit more.

And then we,

like, we're not even Geek Squad.

You just said, Jason, sounded insane. Well, yeah, I know.

You You know, that's what you've been saying for about one eye.

Because we also look alike, hearing you say it and looking like me, I realize we're crazy. That's what it's going to sound.
That's what that's the experience.

Yes, it's not good. It can't be a bunch of 50-year-olds being like calling the young hunks and hotties the geek squad.
This is a bad idea. A bored.
A bored.

I just got a text from Jake that says, edit all the geek squad stuff out.

I thought it was a compliment. I'm bored.
It sounds terrible coming from us.

I'm going to say it like this. I'm going to be like, oh man, did you see one battle after another? I loved it.
I mean, Alana Hayne, though, trying to get in that G squad.

I mean, by the way, she's great. What do you mean? Oh, just the younger generation.
Yeah, they're taking over.

You know, I thought, I honestly, I love everything Paul Thomas Anderson does. It was nice seeing Leo.
You throw a guy from the G squad in that movie, though. I think it's going to be way more.

That's boxing. I mean, look, I think, but the problem is, I think Paul Thomas Anderson got so caught up in trying to make somebody from the G Squad with like Chase Infinity, who's great, but she's not

full. Yeah, because she's guess what? G squad sounds like gangster squad, and that's cool.

Or it sounds like God Squad. Yeah.

You know, I'm just saying.

Holy

man. Oh, man.

I loved it. Tremblay really watched that G Squad action.
What a wild trip this episode was. From the movie to the conversation.
Everything. Just an absolute surprise.
One surprise after another.

Oh, my gosh. All right.

If you have your suggestions for the G Squad, hit us up and let's take on last looks. Jason and I will evaluate and get through it all.
Oh, my God. The G Squad's cool the way you just put that.
Yeah.

This is good. I like the G Squad.
And by the way, just use it. Alana Ham is the perfect person because she's great.

But she is not.

Because guess what? Paul Thomas Anderson is not a director for the G Squad. No.
Not at all. No.
So if you're in with him, you're cool, but you ain't G Squad. Yeah.
This is good.

I'm feeling good about I'm feeling good about where we're headed with this G Squad. And if you're a musician, you're a pop star.
You're not G Squad.

And if you are somebody who writes for Vulture or the Ringer, feel free to say, oh, yeah, everyone's been talking.

Everyone needs to figure out on your Substacks, whatever you do. Vulture would be the perfect place for it.
If Vulture just dropped

somebody on TikTok. But here's what I want.
I just, I want them to do it. And I would like...
I would like to encourage them to do it without referencing us. Never.
No, yeah.

As if it's their own.

If they

it's gonna seem like a joke yes if it's just the g squad

it's gotta be said

it's gotta be said very casually again it's it's it's said to make people feel like they didn't know it's like it's not about we're introducing the g squadrock yeah whenever you're doing press jake for the next movie you've got to be like you know we went out with the casualties

in the

squad

and get them no there's no g squad in dink it's Ed Harris is a little bit older. I'm thinking really fast.
No, there's no G Squad. Then I did a movie with Dakota Fanning.
She's not G Squad. No.

A couple years earlier,

a couple years later, she might have been.

I don't even think L Fanning is G Squad. I don't either.
I actually don't think I've ever worked with G Squad. I've worked with G Squad.
Or?

Well, I did a movie with Joey King, and she was dating Jacob Belordi at the time. So I guess I was hanging out with G Squad.
Joey King is not Geek Squad. Oh.
She's Geek Squad in adjacent.

But yes, so I I was, but I, yeah, so I didn't, I guess I've never done it. Yeah, I guess I have not.
Hmm. Yeah, you're right.
All right. Okay.

Wow. Got to take that in.
I mean, yeah.

Anthony Ramos. Paul, Paul.
Anthony Ramos. Hey, slow down, babe.
We're getting older.

You're right. Jesus God comes, and then when they come, you got to kick some old shit off the boat.
We're the old shit on the boat.

We got to be old barrels just.

Guess what? Guess we are the Wilfred Rimleys of that for them.

Oh, wow. For them, to them.
We're younger.

Yeah. Yeah.
Those guys are younger than us. Younger.
Younger than us. Danny

did this. He was 42 in Lethal Weapon to be too old for this shit.
42. So, guys,

47. How about this? When he played Archie Bunker.
What? That's crazy. 47.
Imagine a G-Squatter watching this little Zoom of the three of us. You know who he's seeing? Danny Clover.
Archie Bunker. Yes.

I mean, Wilfred Brimley.

Wilfred Brimley, 49 and Cocoon. 49 in Cocoon.

I guarantee you. Do you remember? I remember have headphones.
When they do Zooms.

They do it differently somehow. It's Geek Squad.
They know it. Yeah, they know it.

You can see our wires, you geeks. Look at us all.
Man, they're all automated. They're all like fucking.

They're like, what are you doing? You can see the mic, and we're like, it's better sound quality. And they're like, you need G-Squad.
Oh, my God. G-Squad.
This is so funny. This is the best.

Holy shit.

Wow. Wow.
We did it. I don't know what we did, but we did it.

And if you're a first-time listener,

this is a little different than what we normally do. So I encourage you to check out another episode if you'd like.

And make sure that if you are listening to episodes, you are following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. We will be back next week on Last Looks to talk more about Grizzly 2.

We can even actually talk about the movie, or we could just keep on talking about G-Squad. Your choice.

I really am interested what June would think about the G-Squad. But you know what? Maybe you can ask us about the G-Squad on the road.
That's right. How did this get made?

And dinosaur are going out on the road on the East Coast. We're going to be in D.C.
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