Episode 411: Jim Reviews Wrestlepalooza & All Out

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This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW All Out & WWE Wrestlepalooza!

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It's going to be a long one today, folks.

Hello again, friends.

It already was.

And you are our friends.

Welcome to the special early morning edition.

Welcome back for another edition of Jim Cornette's drive-thru.

We've got a lot of wrestling to talk about.

I'm your host, the great Brian Last.

You know, every now and then you hear a critique of us that says, you don't like wrestling.

You just don't like wrestling.

And it was yesterday I realized they were right.

I don't like wrestling.

But here he is, the star of the show.

We got a lot of wrestling to review.

The leader of the cult of Cornet, Mr.

Jim Cornette.

Well, thank you very much, Mr.

Last.

You are indeed a gentleman and a scholar to give me that big buildup.

And you're the one that made me watch all the wrestling.

If it wasn't for you, I feel a duty.

I feel a duty to show up

for work here on this program.

It's your show, by the way, just for the people who may want to leave a comment afterwards.

But

I feel a duty to watch this stuff and show up and talk about it.

And now you're the first one to complain.

I feel there's something fishy about that.

Well, there was certainly a fishy smell when it came to you.

You brought it on yourself.

When it came to premium live events this weekend.

When you were just jumping right into what what about your organ playing, by the way, your organing, yes,

you you you just went into another it didn't have the bright pippy the

it was just kind of

like there.

Now I know the extra little now I know what exactly is your favorite.

You need to the little uh-oh right there in the middle when you change gears up there.

The little uh-oh,

there's a little uh-oh.

Now I'm happy about one thing: Top Tom Tilly Tail.

No, it's please make it stop.

I just want the music.

It just has to play with the music.

Are you slapping it now?

It's not going to play.

It's not going to play that music, no matter how much you try at this point.

Like the real Anoki, it won't sell.

And you know what?

I hear it now.

It is Arigato.

It's just not pronounced the same way like they do in the stick song, song, as Jace put it, but it's a regato.

So, after all this time and all this

vehement denial that that's what the thing is saying, now you just come out with that and just kill the whole deal.

Again, he

highlights.

It sounds like tiger dough to me.

Wait, see, here's the thing: if it is a regato, that's thank you, correct?

That's what that means, yeah,

according to Mr.

Robato.

So, again, the little keychain, little keychains bigger than all the keys put together.

This giant keychain of Antonio Inogi with a soundbox, it's him ripping off his robe, yelling, thank you!

I mean, that makes it even more ridiculous.

You never hear anyone say, Antonio Inogi with his famous thank you yell.

Why don't you just sit there and contemplate

the whole situation silently with with Antonio there

while I just let you again let you know what I was trying to say a minute ago that it's raining here in Louisville I'm proud to announce right here on top of me it is currently raining we had remember when I was complaining about the floods and the torrential rain

well we complained too much

because we had the driest August on record

for the city here and I don't think it has rained a drop in the month of September.

And suddenly, today it started to run now.

It's supposed to rain this week, but you can listen to the rhythm of the falling rain out there if you like.

But that's the one thing that I'm happy about.

The whole town is soggy, and that's the thing that makes me happy.

How many

people, Brian, have the

lack of any responsibility, anything to do, any family obligations, work, whatever,

to watch nine or 10 hours of wrestling on the same day?

Oh, that was the end of the question.

I don't know.

Yes,

that's why it was the inflection of day with the question mark implied there at the end of it.

How many, how can you do this?

It's a lot, and nothing's as easy as just DVRing it at this point.

you have to be on different things to watch different things you have to pay different i mean you have to pay for the aew event no matter where you're even if you watch on max you just got like a ten dollar discount but you still had to pay on max

and then amazon prime is how i watched it where it's the same amount as it would be on pay-per-view which is not a thing anymore but they still have a pay-per-view website yes but you don't get any of the pre-show so i don't know it's a blessing or a curse depending on how you see it and then wwe it took me a while to,

first of all, get over the frustration with just signing up for the ESPN app.

It's not offered through my cable company yet.

And then figuring out how to just get it without having to change anything else I have because I have Disney and Hulu for the kids.

But I'm not changing and getting a different bundle for something I'm going to cancel as soon as I can.

See, I have it a little easier than you do, Brian,

because

if it was up to me and it wasn't on fucking television, I just say, fuck it, I can't get it.

But I went to the director of communications for Castle Cornet, Queen Stacey,

and she figured out that

the first good thing Spectrum's ever done for us, because we have spectrum.

We get the thing that we're supposed that we need to get.

And I said, well, can you put it on the TV and the TV?

She showed me how, and we have to go to Disney because now Disney, and more on this in a second.

Disney owns the thing that owns the ESPN and their associated fucking businesses.

Sooner or later, we're going to figure it out.

Howard Hughes is still alive, and he's the guy at the top that owns everything.

It's a lot of toenails.

So I have to,

we had to go to the Disney app

on the on the TV that she installed there.

And then you get the goddamn variety of things that are on the Disney app, including the ESPN and all the other shit.

So I still don't know what I'm watching.

Besides, now I'm watching wrestling on Disney.

That's the only way my brain can compute it.

But we got the thing without having to sign up for it because it's Spectrum, as I said.

But did you see the

just before we get back to the wrestling apps and streaming,

they wanted this thing to make a ton of money, or they wanted the WWE to make a ton of money for the new EESPN app.

And they've done all this big publicity, this big launch and everything.

They're trying to get people to sign up for this.

It's the same week Disney.

is also ABC and because they canceled Jimmy Kimmel,

they lost like, what was it, $7 billion in goddamn, people crashed the site trying to cancel it.

So I think that they're going to be at a negative net loss anyway, because all that they did to try to pitch WrestlePalooza to get people to sign up was the week they had their largest ever fuck you were canceling fucking moment.

Even if that hadn't happened.

I think clearly they were in a panic.

They spent so much time on SmackDown on Friday trying to like do cheesy little segments with R-Truth to make sure people understood ESPN, ESPN.

But still, it didn't really, like when I ended up going, I was like, how the fuck do I do this?

Like, what the fuck?

And it took me a while.

And it was a pain in the ass.

But they were panicked, I think, that not even because of any political scandals, but just because of the idea.

They introduced a new app.

And they, all of a sudden, they're off peacock.

That was less than a month ago, right?

Yes, yes.

When they announced it, the app didn't exist yet.

And again, you go to Disney.

Some people are just trying to go to the ESPN app.

You go to Disney, you have to go to ESPN.

Then you have to go to like ESPN Live.

Then you have to sign up for it if you don't already have it through one of your services.

And then they try to upsell you a bundle of Hulu and Disney Plus with ESPN, with this version of ESPN, which just so happens to be the most expensive one.

If you look at it, it's like ESPN Basic or ESPN this.

Everything has like a different thing.

There's a Hulu Live versus Hulu Premium.

Like there's all these differences.

And this is the most expensive one.

So like I said, as soon as my cable company offers it, I'm canceling it through this and signing up through that.

And I think a whole lot of other people are going to do that.

I'm dying to see what kind of numbers, if anything, will come out about this

because I'm dying to see what percentage of the audience actually watched it.

Well, here's the thing, not even talking about the cost.

And I know some people,

the modern generation will be, well, it's no problem to sign up and cancel it.

It's just for the average person,

this is not like,

Jesus Christ, house on fire.

Got to call the fire department.

This is, I want to watch this wrestling show, but I can't fucking find it.

Can't figure it out.

They said ESPN.

What's Disney got to do with it?

What's love got to do with it?

There's going to be.

And as you said, because they were trying to explain it in cheesy segments, there's still,

think of it when they just switched cable networks every so great often back in the day,

there was confusion and et cetera.

Now they're asking people to do an internet version of Twister.

Now there's resentment that comes with the confusion.

That's the issue.

There's resentment from various different ways for various different people thinking various different things.

So you have resentment, confusion, cost.

I'm dying to see what this is going to do.

And now over on the other side at AEW, I can't get actual pay-per-view television anymore.

But I'm like you, I got it on

the Amazon Prime video service.

And

they had plugged the zero hour, the pre-show.

I think they were going to do some kind of tailgate party.

If you bought it through Amazon, you got a canned pre-taped show in an empty building with Renee Moxley Good, Brian Danielson, and

fucking RJ Reynolds.

What's his name?

They're good enough.

Just sitting there talking and pitching the packages.

But if you bought it

or got it or watched it through some other service,

you got the stream of their

parking lot thing.

But what?

Why is there different?

Why are they they showing different shit on different goddamn platforms is what I'm asking you.

I don't exactly know.

AEW ends up being a good deal.

I mean, if you think about it, it ends up being for like $50, it's like $2 an hour.

Or like endless fucking pay-per-views.

You're like, man, I got my money's worth and now I'm going to get my sleep's worth.

Like, just they keep bringing it to you.

Well, let me ask you this, though.

$2,

if you're in the dentist's chair, which is why we're doing this so quickly, the turnaround, because I'm about to be in less than 24 hours, getting my teeth pulled.

So, why to do all this in such a quick fashion?

Would you want to pay a little more?

Just get it over with a little quicker.

So,

both of these companies have their various issues,

as we will talk about as we go further, but just the

again, the WWE has never made more money and it's putting on

shows of a technical fashion.

If you're talking about a television program, fucking incredible.

But

are they almost, you know, holding the shows ransom at this point for people to be able to figure out where to go to pay the ransom to get their loved ones back so they can watch their wrestling?

You know, and the other thing, too, is AEW, you buy an AEW pay-per-view that's what you get wwe

now seemingly no matter what streaming platform it's on you get commercials in between the matches oh yeah three and a half minutes it's got a little clock on a screen so it can tell you how long you got to piss think about that i mean i don't think it's like that for every other program that goes to streaming it's not like all right now

there's there's advertisements in the body of the premium live event where they're talking about the next pay-per-view or selling the merchandise or talking about their sponsor.

And then they go to, in between every match, a three and a half minute long commercial break where they show actual fucking commercials.

How many times did they show a commercial for Smashing Machine?

I couldn't tell whether that was in the three and a half minute break or in the program content, but there was quite a number.

Yeah, good point.

Good point.

But yeah,

a lot of wrestling over the last years.

All right.

It's going to be obviously a banner episode of the drive-thru.

Of course, a normal drive-through next week when we have more time and there's less things happening and companies trying to put other companies out of business.

And also, I've hopefully successfully had my teeth pulled.

And by the way, they're...

See, that's the thing, bro.

They're putting me under now.

So this could be a landmark episode if things don't work out.

You know, I've seen the headlines: guy under anesthesia in medical procedure.

You know,

it's not like we hear about people putting you over, so I guess under is the only other way to go.

But, Jim, of course, before you go under,

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All right.

Well, why don't we talk about...

Well, you sound thrilled.

Why don't we talk about Saturday, September 20th?

Now I'm kind of sour.

You know, knowing that wrestling starts early that day, I mean, I'm assuming you watched a lot of it live, just knowing that we had to turn it around and do it today.

But knowing it starts at like three,

you know, I don't know.

It's just a week.

You adjust your day differently when the event starts in the middle of the day as opposed to, you know, seven or eight o'clock.

Well,

you know, many people I understand take days off from work.

But I'm always,

as you are, you know, running the empire in some way, shape, or form, but I can't sleep late anymore.

So I was still up out of bed at seven o'clock on Saturday morning.

So there was paperwork I had to do and things that I had to accomplish around the house, but it wasn't so much the idea it was starting early because I'd rather it start early and get it over with.

Because I can't stay up till fucking 11 o'clock at night.

It just that I wasn't looking forward to the length of both programs and then turning around the very

next morning and having to discuss it for at length again.

But that's our job as reporters.

We've got to,

we're not really reporters.

We don't talk about the news when it breaks.

We then use our expertise to critique it and discuss it in a learned fashion after the fact.

It's really your expertise.

It's my foolishness.

Well, some of the tomfoolery comes from you, but every once in a while I can, I can fool with Tom.

But at three o'clock, you're right.

I was going to watch the AEW program because at least I'm, you know, I'm wasting time if I'm not watching something that's going on, right?

At least we have the power of pause so I can go and relieve myself during the various issues.

And I started watching that thing, but by six o'clock, I know that

the

WWE show is going to start at seven,

and I got to eat something.

I didn't want to fucking

like Morty Seinfeld force feed myself a fucking steak at four o'clock in the afternoon.

So I stopped watching the AEW show at six o'clock so that I have time to eat something real quick because I'm not going to not watch Cena and Lesnar live at seven o'clock for whatever tomfoolery is still happening in AEW.

And then by the by the time I get into the WWE show, I don't want to leave that because at least nobody's being set on fire.

But then by the time that I see the mixed tag, which is what I was really there for,

it's fucking going on 10 o'clock and

daddy needs to go to bed.

So then I got up this morning.

Once again, Cody Rhodes is an afterthought.

Well, I'm sorry, but

the mixtag, we'll talk about it, should have gone on last.

That's what everybody wanted to see.

And

so then I got up this morning and caught up on everything else.

Yeah.

Well, why don't we start with what started at 3 p.m.?

Of course, we didn't have access to whatever zero hour there was on Amazon Prime, but AEW, all-out 2025 from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

Well, they had a big crowd.

The big set covered some of the big seats that they didn't big sell, but they still had a big crowd.

Did we hear?

Did they have 12 or 13,000, I believe?

I could check.

Was what they were expecting.

Yeah, it looked good.

Here's the thing now.

What it is, is it's a, did you, did you notice by the match order, it's a battle of the the stars with seniority and pull as to how early you get to go on?

Because they started with Edge and Christian.

And you know, Edge and Christian, you're like, my God, we're in Toronto.

It's our first time back as a team.

We're going to go out and have a tag team wrestling match with these guys.

We can't let them.

burn the fucking people out and do everything and more that we're still physically capable of doing

and with weapons.

So put us on first, Tony.

It'll be a great way to start the show.

Perfect.

It actually, it was perfect.

That is a perfect way to get them in there, get them.

They were over as the hometown heroes, their legitimate stars.

get them the maximum pop they can, let those people have fun there.

And then they have a tag team match and they get the fuck out of there before people begin being set on fucking fire.

But then.

To be fair, that was in the back, not in front of the fans.

Well, no, just in front of the fans, people are only sliced open from asshole appetite and stuffed into fucking bags or thrown through furniture.

I think that's or flung off the fucking balcony.

And then,

of course, MJF in the past has been the master of that because if you notice, except for when it was a world title match and it was going to be him and Danielson, him and Punk, it was going to be the best thing they'd see and it was going to be memorable.

He'd be on first so he could have a match with some psychology

with a crowd that hasn't been seen,

you know, several attempted murders and people being.

bleached and whatever.

And then there's the Hurt Syndicate, who they've also got some pull and their stars.

And they know we're going to go out here and fucking a halfway wrestle.

And we don't want to be out there after the fucking trampoline Cowboys get started.

So now

the only match of the first

four or five that was really any kind of a stinker

because it involved stars that halfway knew what they were doing, even with this shitty booking, was Kingston, who they had to stick in the middle because they couldn't put that on later.

Everybody knew that.

But it's now it's a brawl amongst the top guys to see who can get out of there

before the people have seen every kind of goddamn damage that can be done to a human body.

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Anyhow, let's start with Edge and Christian and FTR.

Is it the first time they have been a team in Toronto in 24 years?

When did Christian leave

for TNA?

For WWE.

For TNA, yes.

Was that 2005, 2006, 2007, somewhere in there?

Were they burying him at that point?

They split him up.

They were mad at each other.

24 years seems long.

Well, they weren't together when he left.

He was doing stuff with Tyson Tomco at that point in time.

It was actually the most entertaining.

I found him in WWE, and then he was gone, and he got a a big push in TNA as a world champion.

And so did, and so did Tomco, and then he was gone.

Well, nevertheless, point being, it's the first time in 24 years, and

that does both

make it historic and make them sound even older than I thought they were.

But what was the deal?

Tell me before we get to the match.

What was the deal where they were walking into the arena, Edge and Christian?

and

they're greedy.

I got that they were a famous hockey player was there and said hello, and he got a little bit of a pop from the people.

But then, who was the weird guy?

They come up on a weird guy wearing glasses and they called him Bubbles, Bubbles, and

he they're talking back and forth.

I don't know what the fuck he's saying.

I'm

the gentleman, is

challenged in some fashion no not bubbles no and then no and then

they look the other way and they and i swear to god i proved

it it was the same guy right but he now he's dressed in a costume as the green bastard

is this some kind of goddamn goofy attitude era angle that they did and they found this guy 30 years later and

what who how what the is this bubbles is a character played by that guy who looks remarkably the same as he looked 15 years ago on the trailer park boys which is one of the funniest comedies of all time and it's canadian so it's a popular canadian comedy

series i guess is the word i should add there but it's a great series at least when jim lahey was there and Bubbles on the show at one point loves wrestling, so they set up a little makeshift ring in the trailer park, and he becomes the green bastard.

Oh, Christ, Christ, Christ on a cracker.

On a cracker.

Well,

so they got some

advice, I guess, from the green bastard.

And then they played the music, and then here came Edge.

By the way, not the only green bastard in AEW.

No,

good, good catch there.

We should be specific.

The green bastard that is bubbles with a mask on.

But they played the music, Here Comes Edge.

And that's, I was like, great pop and great entrance.

And they've just looked like idiots doing

scripted verbiage with some fellow.

But they sang his song.

It wasn't as enthusiastic at first, but then it picked up at the end.

At one point, it was so passionless.

I was like, what the hell is going on?

It's like dry and

like this feels like almost they're being forced to do this.

Well, but remember, they're in Canada.

So

that kind of for a lot of Canadian folks, that's being just wacky fucking demonstrative like crazy on acid on the streets of San Francisco.

If you're actually singing with a loud voice in public.

I liked it better when you didn't feel forced to sing at wrestling.

I liked it better when you could just stand in the back and.

You better sing?

You will sing your hearts out.

Oh my God, dance.

In some places you got to dance too.

If you go to France, you got to dance.

You're going to dance in France.

You

little bastards.

And then, of course, they played Cage's music and the people chanted, he's my asshole, because.

Earlier when they were walking in the back with the bubbles and the

cock hockey guy, bubbles and the hockey guy.

Sounds like a pilot from the 70s.

The Edge said, Well, he may be an asshole, but he's my asshole.

And so they're, but they're over.

The people want to see him.

It's the hometown.

FTR music, mild booing.

I think they've completely

just wrung whatever interest

that

people had at one time in these poor fellows out of it.

And

Stokely was wearing some kind of stylish hazmat suit.

I don't know what that.

I thought maybe they were going to fucking fill him up with helium and float him like a blimp over the fucking ring.

But did you hear Tony Schiavone's opening comment at the at or near the bell?

I'm not sure.

I mean, Tony Schiavone had various stupid comments about how great it was or how happy he was to be there, how this is what AEW is all about.

They ring the bell and they're squaring off.

Tony said, I don't know if we've ever called a match with so much

and he can't think of the word.

And there's dead air.

And then Sockface jumped in and started talking to Danielson.

Like, well, Brian, what do you think about that?

He couldn't come up with so much emotion, so much

enmity, so much goddamn rivalry and passion behind whatever the dumb.

So much

somehow, the commentary got worse with Danielson.

And part of the problem, too, now is Danielson, because obviously he knows what the booking is, Danielson's screaming things.

And then when he stops, no one else has that energy, not the crowd or Excalibur.

He's just like, this is amazing.

I can't believe it.

Tony Schiavone, what do you think about?

They just move on.

Everyone has a different energy and it's not working.

Tony, at his age, if he tried that energy, he'd have a stroke.

And Sockface can't just yell back at him, but it is just constant screaming.

And Danielson, yes, he's so excited, but also he doesn't do sound bites.

He does analyses that sometimes take a while.

And then they laugh.

Whenever anything bad happens, especially in front of them, you hear them laugh.

And then one laughing gets the other one to laugh.

So now the commentators are laughing at something that really should hurt

the whole, the whole thing is a mess.

The whole thing is a mess.

Well, but having said that now, let's get back to the match because we're not, the whole thing wasn't, the match was not a mess.

The mess match matches come later, but

they worked a smart match because FTR know to how to have a tag team match and they were the ping-pong balls for Christian and Edge, who know how to have a match and also

are, you know, obviously picking their spots at their age and stage of the game.

And Cash and Edge did a great wrestling spot.

Dax was ping-ponging for the guys.

At one point, FTR did a blind tag to cut Christian off.

But

if anybody wants to go back and look at

at an example of how you actually could and should do a blind tag, but it's too small.

The fans didn't see it.

They were bunched up in the corner when he slapped him.

They should have gone, reached behind hand to hand where the fans could see it, then they would have got it.

But the blind tag was too small.

They got some heat on Christian and worked switches around the fact that they were keeping Christian in a chin lock because they needed to conserve energy.

And then, boom, Christian foiled Cash's

splash and

got the hot tag.

And Edge made a nice comeback,

did a little you can't see me, which woke the fans up.

And then the fans started chanting, Cena, Cena.

But they came to see Edge and Christian

do stuff.

They didn't really come to see

this hot match or this or FTR get beat up or whatever.

When FTR is getting the heat, they were just kind of like waiting for

Edge and Christian to do something.

And then

finally, FTR hit their suplex splash combination and got a two count.

Boom.

And Edge and Christian foiled the shatter machine, and Edge had a cover, and the referee goes down, and Stokely pulls the referee to the floor,

which,

again, has been done a lot here in modern times, but let's not nitpick.

But then suddenly the music plays,

and it's Beth Phoenix, and she runs down the fucking entranceway and spears Stokely on the floor.

And the people are, yeah, holy shit!

And Edge spears Dax boom and covers him.

One, two, two count.

What the fuck?

Then

Beth carried Stokely out of the arena

and the match continues.

Christian got powerbombed on the announce desk.

Then Edge got hit with the ring bell.

And then after they hit him with the ring bell, they gave him a spike pile driver.

One, two, two count.

What the fuck?

They had it.

They had it and they won't stop.

Edge stopped both FTR,

but then just ran into a shatter machine to count.

Oh, for God's sake.

Then

they did a second shatter machine to Edge, but no cover.

There was an awkward moment where

I can only presume

something was supposed to happen or because Cash then just suddenly ran over to be tripped by Christian all the way across the ring.

And Edge speared Cash one, two, three.

Or Dax ran over to be.

I don't know what the fuck,

but they had it.

They'd done all the false finishes.

They'd done this shit, the big suplex splash, blah, blah, blah.

Here comes Beth, spears fucking Stokely.

Edge hits his spear.

The people people were there to count.

And then they go through all this shit.

And it was awkward to begin with.

But they couldn't quit.

But

it was close to a tag team wrestling match for AEW, didn't you think?

I thought it was going to be a great match, thinking about it in advance.

I don't think it was great, but it was really good.

It was a fine opener.

Up until

kind of up until the finish, maybe a little bit before the finish, but up until the finish.

And then to me, it just went off the rails.

Yeah.

Especially in front of that crowd in Toronto.

Who at times was the quietest Toronto crowd I've ever heard?

Well, later on, you could take a nap every once in a while in the middle of a match because they were waiting to see what looked like somebody got hurt.

Because that's what gets the biggest, not somebody winning or somebody,

you know that we love but the biggest reactions come from that looked like somebody got hurt

but anyway nevertheless we're not done now it's only the

the opening match on a pay-per-view we've got to have an angle here

so suddenly they play more music and here comes old mama wayne

wheeling Nick Plain out in a wheelchair on the stage.

And this

distraction led to FTR to be able to jump Edge and Christian from behind and Pip Sabian

to come from somewhere and handcuff Edge to the ropes while FTR spike pile drive Christian cage.

But here comes Beth back out trying to get Edge loose from the goddamn deal.

And FTR starts menacing her, like standing over her.

So she looks at Edge and tells him, I love you,

and kisses him and then turns around and starts swinging away at FTR.

And now we're, you know, but I, okay.

Dusty had his moments where he would recreate scenes from John Wayne movies, too.

So,

and she starts swinging at FTR, but they grab her and to contain her,

So she's not a danger to herself or others, they give her a spike pile driver.

And an FTR leaves and the doctor is checking on Beth and

nobody was getting edge loose until finally they got the bolt cutters.

And I'm not sure where Christian went and all of that.

Are you?

Do you remember?

Well, he was the first one laid out.

Well, but nobody ever stays laid out for long.

I don't know.

I hadn't thought of it, actually.

I hate to say it.

I hadn't thought of where did Christian go.

I'm trying to look at my notes.

What happened to him?

Well, they were just, they beat him up some kind of way and threw him out.

Well, he's not the most courageous son of a gun in the world anyway.

Yeah, I don't know what.

I'm taking a sip.

I thought it was just an awkward pause because it was kind of deserved because of

this post-match.

The whole thing where Beth has music and she runs out there and it's just, you know, it's just Beth because obviously you can't call her Beth Phoenix.

WWE owns that.

And she comes Well, I just called her Beth Phoenix because.

Well, you can.

I knew her back when.

But then, you know, now you have

girls beating up guys on both shows.

And now you have girls getting spike pile drivers on the show.

It seems like a big jump.

It seems like a bit much, especially to heat up this.

I don't think the FTR

heel run right now is really clicking with people, despite them trying to heat it up.

I don't think it's working or clicking at all.

And I think the fans kind of, and we've seen it, I mean, they set it up into being part of their thing, but the fans are almost like mocking them.

And it's a weird,

it's a weird way of booking top heels if any of this is intentional.

But I was hoping this would end tonight, but maybe I was naive thinking that, but I was hoping everyone would kind of move on after tonight.

Well,

but now here's the thing: is that

I like Beth Phoenix and I think that she's a good talent that I don't know whether she's wanting or whether this was a one-time thing or setting up some kind of mixed tag or, you know, she's not getting back into business, whatever the fuck.

They should have had her out there to confront Stokely before Edge beat him up.

Well,

the point being, that's what I'm saying is they picked this time to do that maybe because it was in Toronto and it just because, you know, they were, they live in Asheville, North Carolina, though.

But they've done it the same week as the biggest mixed tag team match and the biggest husband and wife reunion in fung and wrestling history.

And so it comes off, even though Edge and Beth are both stars and talents,

it comes off again, again.

Like maybe it's just their rotten timing.

Maybe they plan to do it this time all along, but it comes off like, oh, well, we got a fucking couple

rather than a big deal.

And for it to mean really anything besides a pop for the people in the building in Toronto, that Beth comes out and carries Stokely off and gets pile driven

is if

in any way Stokely had any fucking heat.

And

that's the problem is this just comes off like they're copying

what the big company is doing.

And when's the last time that the WWE made a particularly big deal about a husband and wife combination

since Triple H and Stephanie or whatever.

So it just had to be this time.

It makes it look like Heard's WCW with ding-dongs trying to copy Vince's

80s ice cream bar era.

But again, they had Beth Phoenix come after to make the big save.

And then

the debut in AEW, I guess, first appearance in AEW.

And then immediately she gets laid out.

So I don't know about the whole thing.

Yeah.

Unless she's just not, it was a cameo, whatever.

Okay.

Eddie Kingston returns after over a year.

Bless his little pea piggin heart.

He got a nice pop.

He got some Eddie chance.

Remember when they announced this match?

Why would they do this?

Why would they

not only have Eddie Kingston and his return booked against Big Bill?

not only for the for the result, really, but for

the match.

And

it was everything that somebody, a babyface return, shouldn't be.

He got the teetotal shit beat out of him the whole time.

He's had 16 months to diet and train.

And I don't,

is his belly a little smaller than it was, Brian, but is he a little paler to make up for it?

I thought he looked good when he had the shirt on, when he had the Claudio Sucks egg shirt.

I'm like, oh, he looks like he's lost weight.

And then when he took the shirt off, I'm like, like, well, you know, maybe I can't really tell.

Well, and the thing is, the fans were really happy to see him, though.

He's the guy, he's one of these guys the fans chose, and it never the push never went to the place the fans wanted it to go.

And that's why this was the wrong opponent.

The people wanted to see Eddie Kingston come back after this horrific injury, do his shit against somebody that'll give him a little workout and

win in eight or ten minutes so they they can feel good, and you're preparing for the future.

Because if you do that

two or three times over the period of a month or two, then Big Bill could have come out and said,

Why is Eddie Kingston getting all this time when all he does is beat these nobodies?

He wouldn't last five minutes with me.

Oh, Kingston, come out, you want to bet?

And here we go, something.

But instead, his first time back in a year and a half, you have a giant that makes him look even more physically like shit,

beat the shit out of him over and over

in a goddamn, and sell nothing practically, which he shouldn't because he's a giant.

But then

they did the deal where

in the backhand is Kingston's finish, right?

The spinning backhand, which again is stupid.

And you can see he's got his hand open this part yeah but

big bill foiled the backhand and barely hit a bubba slam on

kingston everyone kingston was making a he made a comeback it wasn't a good comeback but he made a comeback

and then Big Bill stopped him again, barely got the bubba slam.

He was spun him like two feet off the ground because he got their balance off.

And then another one that wasn't much better.

And it made it dull because

once Kingston made his comeback, they should have just gone.

But now he stopped him again.

Then

Kingston hits a DDT and hit his back fist.

That should have been it again.

It should have been it.

One count.

What the fuck?

So then Kingston runs into a boot, but Big Bill misses a charge in the corner.

Kingston schoolboys him and gets a two count.

And then Kingston gets up and his Big Bill is still halfway down on his knees.

He swung the back fist and missed it.

And Tony Schiavone said, oh, he missed it.

And I think even Excalibur said, glancing blow.

And Big Bill just crumpled and he covered him one, two, three.

And then they jumped in saying, oh, I guess he hit him a glancing blow on the temple.

God damn it.

I've never seen a guy win a match and it made him look more like shit.

You know,

I'm just going to the first back fist, boom,

down one, two, three.

That's the finish.

That's his finish.

Comes out of nowhere.

If they'd have done that,

it'd have been all right.

But the fucking whiffing the goddamn knockout blow on a seven-foot man put it over the top of the bottom.

I'm sorry, go ahead.

You know, when he first came out there, I'm like, yeah, Eddie Kingston, everyone's into him.

Good to see him back.

First thing he did, I think, was like lay in a chop.

And I'm like, oh no, I forgot about his, like, what he's into, which is like his tribute to all Japan in the 90s.

And

I didn't think this was very good.

And then the finish was pretty embarrassing.

I mean,

the fact that he missed it, and then they just still went went to the finish.

They still went to the pin.

It looks so bad.

But do you see what I'm saying?

They just rushed everything.

All they had to do was bring Kingston back and show the people that he was still able to walk with all of his fucking surgeries and have him beat somebody with his back fist and they'd have been happy.

And it also reminds people about his back fist that he hasn't done in a year and a fucking half.

And then do it again two or three weeks later.

and maybe even again go crazy just to let people know and remind them and then you have the big fucking giant have the issue if you want to because then you've established something

instead of bringing the guy a baby face back so that he can get the shit kicked out of him and then whiff his finish and

And then get the shit kicked out of him

by Brian Keith and

old Bill until the hook sign came out

to no reaction whatsoever.

Did you hear the reaction when they hit the music and played the or flashed the light?

No, no, I didn't.

No, I didn't hear the reaction.

That's the point.

And they bailed the giant bails from the

child Hook.

And they beat up Brian Keith.

And Kingston hugs Hook.

So,

you know, they live in the same tenement in New York, I understand.

Over there, in

where was it that

Brooklyn Heights, where Patty's only seen the sights?

That's probably where they live.

A hot dog makes her lose control.

Yes.

Well, one of these hot dogs looks like Kingston ate all the hot dogs.

That's

not nice.

And that's your review of the Eddie Kingston Big Bill match.

Yes, it was.

All right.

Now, after we got that interlude out of the way, the next star that wanted to get on early and get the fuck out of there before anybody got set on fire

was MJF.

So now we get the table and thumbtacks match between MJF and Mark Briscoe.

I mean, any longtime listener of the program will know that this is, in my opinion, the stupidest thing that they've ever done in wrestling is the thumbtacks, which is just ridiculous and just low rent and stupid and silly and childish and juvenile,

all the other

synonyms that might apply to those words.

But if you've got

Moxley, I mean, he can do that as well as he can do anything else.

Moxley's the shits in the ring as a professional wrestler, wrestler, as a worker, both psychology and physically.

He's suited for the garbage shit.

But both of these guys are

two of the better

in-ring performers on the roster in this company.

Mark Briscoe, because he can have good matches with people that know how to work, he just has the

he's fallen into the habit of doing the hardcore stuff because they think because he came from Sandy Fork and Ring of Honor and that type of thing, that that's all he can do.

He can actually have matches with people that can work.

He just doesn't get too often.

But MJF, as we've seen,

psychology-wise, can put a main event match together.

He's a smart kid.

So to have both of them

tied up in something this that any garbage wrestler can do,

it just it

makes the show look more indie and outlaw and mud show.

You could have a good match with these guys if you didn't ruin the ring by dumping two buckets of thumbtacks in it before the match starts.

And

still, MJF understood and he tried to milk the idea of them falling and rolling around in the tax and et cetera, and get as much mileage out of it as possible.

But again,

you know that Mark Briscoe,

because he's not going to say no when

people ask him to do something or paying him this much money, and he's done it for far less.

And MJF at some point

has to goddamn humor this

fucking special fellow that he works for

and pays him all that money and indulge him in his indie-minded, goddamn outlaw wrestling fantasies.

So we end up with this.

And,

you know, again, I don't,

it's so embarrassing.

Two of them, and I can, I made notes on, and by the way, MJF was smart enough to wear big old thick white gloves.

Even though they got both got their shirts torn off and were rolling around in the shit, at least MJF had the gloves on.

But

I made notes, but why?

MJF put tax in Briscoe's mouth and backdropped him in the tax, and then MJF took a backdrop in the tax

and then a spine buster in the tax

and then i've

i wrote briscoe hit a dive and pulled a table out and got a chair broke two tables more bumps and a tax then they pulled out a chair covered in tax

then mjf tombstoned him

on the chair with the tax to count

And then he pulled out another table and poured two bags of tax on the table.

And they had a fight on the top, which was somewhat lengthy and contrived until Briscoe elbow dropped MJF through the table.

And

after he came off the top rope

with an elbow drop to put MJF through the table that was covered with tacks.

He didn't cover him.

He went up to the top again and dropped another elbow drop on him.

And then he picked him up.

God damn it.

And then he picked him up and hit a J-driller

in honor of his brother on the corpse,

the lifeless corpse of what was once MJF

one, two, three.

Surprisingly enough,

it just,

I know they're getting paid a lot of money,

but at some point, you would think that somebody would be able to say to Tony, just

know what the fuck is the matter with you?

Just because we did this shit at one point when we had to work in fucking rec centers

doesn't mean that

we can actually do this shit for real.

We don't have to do this like the other clowns that you pay a lot of money to.

We can do the shit we're supposed to be doing.

Anyway, low rent,

one of both guys worst matches ever because of the stupidity factor, even though MJF did try to put some logic in it.

But I mean, tell me what I missed about this masterpiece.

Well, again, not my favorite kind of match.

At first, I thought MJF was going to tease the whole match that he would take a bump and not take any until the very end.

And then that would be the big bump in the tax.

And then here's your finish.

Boom.

But obviously they were going for the gore aspect.

Well, minimal gore compared to other things on the show now that I think about it.

Well, but no, but then you've got the visual of the thumbtack sticking in Briscoe's bald head and in both of their backs and their arms.

It is so stupid.

And Briscoe gets the win.

It's jackass.

It's jackass.

And MJF loses.

I don't know if that hurts him.

I don't know if anything hurts him or helps him right now.

No.

But, you know, Briscoe, who lost non-stop, got a big win to end the feud, hopefully, thankfully.

Better be.

And they teased already.

I don't know.

Do you want to talk about the promo?

Or did you see the promo that he did later?

Well,

let me just say that to respond to what you said, no, it's about time Mark Briscoe wins a big one.

It was

not about time.

It's been a long, long past time.

I'm not disputing the finish.

I'm disputing the just the

guy biting a head off a fucking chicken level match they had to have to get there because these people's minds are in the indie gutter.

But the promo, tell me what you're saying here.

They did a promo with the other members of the conglomeration.

I think it was Willow Nightingale.

Harley Cameron, Roderick Strong, Kyle O'Reilly,

and who?

There was another person.

I can guarantee you, I didn't see it.

And hologram, and the whole time Kyle's on the phone, and Mark Briscoe's giving a big fired-up promo that the conglomeration is back, he's got his big win.

Harley Cameron really hamming it up.

And then they reveal that

the friend that they asked to be part of the big match against the Don Cowas family on Wednesday, his answer was

whatever.

So they're teasing the big comeback of your favorite wrestler of 2019, Orange cassidy yeah thankfully i had forgotten about him i thought he just went away by popular demand what they're bringing back all the greatest hits of the first year they're trying to do everything they can to get back all the people that when they still had a spirit they were there but but but no but the thing is is the people they had in the first year is the reason why they lost half of the people that they had in the first year until now because the people they didn't like those people

not they're longing to see them come back they want fewer of them not more

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So then we were ready for the six-man tag team match with the Hurt Syndicate and Ricochet and

the Drech twins,

Bishop Khan and Tia Leone.

And

I don't mind Bishop Khan now.

Tia Leone is hopeless, but I don't mind Bishop Khan.

Do you see what I'm saying?

I see what you're saying.

Do you agree with me?

Did you pay enough attention to notice that Bishop Khan can actually do some shit, whereas

Leone is a lost ball in high weeds?

I mean,

I've seen them before.

I'm not really surprised by what any of them can do or not do.

Well, I just, just they they kept

and they could it could be under the pretext of well you're the big guy so we want you to stay out and you only come in every once in a while but i think they kept him after wednesday night they kept old tia leone out on the apron as much as possible but bishop kahn can move around

and mvp looked good

uh

they

mvp did more wrestling again than normal because it's he's a not only a legitimate ex-wrestler, but also a babyface manager.

So he's not going to work like the manager.

That was the ricochet spot where they kept trying to tease MVP wanting Ricochet and Ricochet not wanting any of it.

And also because he's the little fellow in this thing.

So that was the

point of the match, but they put together

They put together a match that was very well laid out, I thought.

It's just that the heel team

is too green and doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

You know, Ricochet bounces for the big guys, and so does Bishop Kahn.

And

at one point, MVP was beating up Ricochet, and his two partners were just standing on the floor, leaning on the apron, watching it.

And I'm like, what the fuck?

Because I don't know if they were lost or trying to figure out what their next spot was.

But then

when the Heels stopped MVP and started working his bad leg,

the fans didn't want to see MVP sell, but the Heels aren't any good at getting heat.

That's where,

again, as I said,

they'd laid out a good match, but they did an awkward spot, awkward.

Not an awkward spot, but an awkward rendition of a spot on the floor to prevent the tag.

And then MVP just tagged Lashley.

The Keels couldn't set it up.

They didn't have it.

And then

Lashley made a comeback and killed Ricochet.

And Leone came in with the save, and he and Lashley just looked at each other and then turned away and started doing different shit.

I'm like, Jesus Christ, what in the world is supposed to be happening?

So

then Sheldon threw Ricochet everywhere.

And then

he threw Bishop Kahn everywhere, and then he germined both of them, got a big pop.

And

Lashley hit the spear on a couple of them.

And MVP and

one of the other guys was slugging it out, and I'm like, they need to go.

It's good now.

But it seems like everybody just, you know, has to hang on a little longer.

T.

L.

Leone hit Lashley with a chair,

and everybody took a big bump on the floor, and Ricochet did a dive.

The referee was Aubrey Ed, so she wasn't counting or doing anything except standing there,

you know, with her cud being chewed.

And then

the big Samoan Leone took out Shelton and Lashley, but Ricochet and

Bishop beat up MVP.

And

some way or another,

I don't, I forgot.

I don't think I've written down the finish here.

I guess I didn't write it down.

I wrote down, Khan needs to be a single or find a new partner.

Leone is rotten and has the charisma of mud.

I think it's Leonie.

Oh, they beat.

That's what they beat MVP there somehow with something.

I don't know.

I was gonna say, it's a weird situation when MVP is the Ricky Morton of the team, like the guy doing all the selling and needs the tag.

It's a weird thing, yes, it's a weird thing.

Obviously, the Hurt Syndicate want to work with these guys and they're gonna try to make these guys to the best of their ability.

And it was a, like you said, a well-laid-out match.

Yes,

unfortunately, the heels laid an egg.

Yeah,

I mean,

You know,

again,

there's no other tag teams of grown men in this company that wouldn't be a joke to put in the ring with Lashley and Benjamin.

And the people love Lashley and Benjamin, but

the fucking manager has to come in and drop the fall to try to get somebody over.

Oh.

Anywho, you know what was next, don't you, Brian?

I don't remember, actually.

It was Mercedes Moon versus Riho.

I remember.

Did I lose you?

No, I'll see at some point.

I got to breathe, but I want to see how long I could do that.

That's pretty goddamn amazing, wasn't it?

I'm gonna, I'm a little dizzy.

I don't know what just happened.

Oh,

all right.

Anyway,

don't quit.

That's it.

He's saying no, thank you.

That's what he's saying.

No, I got no.

So,

what in the world was the

Mercedes now?

I think she's the female flare.

And in no way, shape, or form is she.

But instead of coming out with eight models, she comes out with eight

male twinks from some type of online service wearing her women's title belts from the various outlaw promotions.

That was interesting.

This was in no way a serious segment deserving of our attention and/or potential

critique of, or even making fun of, is it, Brian, at this point?

Have we not determined that there's no sense in just going over the same old shit with this thing?

I think people would love to hear you break this down.

I mean, obviously, it's an evenly matched

matchup.

The women were about the same size, it seemed like.

Yeah, the tail of the tape.

Anything you want to say at all about this?

Well, I'll tell you what I can say.

They gave it fucking 15 minutes plus entrances on

what's supposed to be a legitimate professional broadcast.

I can say that.

I can say that,

again, the joke is long passed over.

That now, now that Kenny's not even here all the time, that his

fascination with these low-level

outlaw apartment wrestling girl groups, and the reason why that it is so embarrassing that a national television wrestling promotion for the past five years in any country

has pulled

talent, and I use that in quotation marks, from these fringe

do-it-yourself, hey kids, let's put on a show

organizations in Japan

just to satisfy him.

And still, in

they're six years in

and they have,

it is a babyface that should actually on a major event challenge.

Even though Mercedes is a shits too, she's some kind of goddamn star and she's making millions of dollars.

Isn't that like

a record company signing up Taylor Swift and having her put out a duet album with his brother-in-law?

It's like a record company signing a man and saying, you know what, we're going to eat the advance.

They'll give you a whole bunch of more money.

Do what you want.

I just.

So, no, I can't sit there and watch this.

Like,

I've been in wrestling for 50 fucking years, like something seriously professional professional is being

presented to me.

I cannot act this way.

I cannot dignify this at this point.

When they get serious with Mercedes and

find somebody to kick her ass, take a few of those belts away.

I might watch that.

But no,

again,

Mercedes grabbed the referee and distracted her long enough to

rake Riho's eyes.

And she hit a big move on old Rio that looked good.

Mercedes did.

Picked her up and dropped her boom on her knees.

Didn't cover her.

Picked her up and hit her shitty finish where they start out with the girl on her back and she turns around and they fall in a heap.

One, two, three.

And I can't believe she actually did a good-looking move and then wasted it.

And that was the whole idea of that's again,

I know they're not smart enough,

but I would think there's people there that could explain it to them if they were willing to listen.

Why did she rake the babyface's eyes, Brian?

In that situation when the babyface was about to beat her and she grabbed the referee to distract her and rake the babyface's eyes where he couldn't see it.

Why did she do that?

to get an advantage over the babyface yeah because she was desperate

and she knew right then she had to cheat and she didn't want to get caught cheating

that's a good spot

and the reason why she was desperate was because she knew and wanted the fans to know in the working

universe

that she was beaten if she didn't do something desperate and cheat because that gives the babyface the out when the baby face is about to get fucked.

And then once you rake the eyes and that's the fucking difference maker, and then you grab the opponent and hit him with the goddamn big move,

if you don't cover them on that,

then your goddamn clock resets.

Now you're no longer desperate.

Now the baby face no longer has a goddamn out because now you just pick the babyface up and fucking give them another move.

Now you're in control and the baby face,

their out expired because you did.

It was all the momentum of what the people are seeing and how they subliminally react to it.

Now you just made it flat because you're stupid.

That's what I thought about that match.

What did you think?

Big win for Mercedes Monet

and her band of Twink title holders.

Another victory.

She does not lose the belt.

And she is Swami's barking because obviously it was a dog of a match, ladies and gentlemen.

But Riho just returned.

She has lost.

We'll see if she disappears and maybe Hikaru Shida or some other challenger from the Kenny Omega Rolodex can show up and challenge Mercedes Monet.

This has been Brian Last and Swami for Jim Jim Didn't Like It News.

All right, you know what that means?

The Riho match is over.

Jim, there was more on up.

Please, please stand up and in single file calmly leave the auditorium.

No, there was more.

There was plenty more.

Next up was for the unified title,

as opposed to any of the other titles this was a three-way between mascara dorito oblada and our boy take

and

i'm sorry again

this we got a long road a hoe here as mama cornette used to say you got the laziest wrestler in the world you got a 160 pound generic masked guy

And

again, poor Take, who had all the potential in the world and was the

best athlete and the cheapest salary of all of the Japanese imports, and he just flounders around and stares at people.

He's in a heel group

that he is mad at the other guy in the same heel group, or

he stares at him a lot.

He never speaks, but his manager never really speaks for him.

He just stands around in the assemblage of various guys.

So, why do we care?

And this title is not in any way, who gives a shit?

It's just something because Tony's a Mark for Oblada, the world's laziest human being.

So, why are we going to watch 20 minutes of contrived gymnastics?

What is the purpose that we would want to see this fucking match?

It took forever on fast forward.

In case Takesha finally gets fed up with these heel ways of Hokkada, that was really the only thing they teased.

And that's...

Danielson yelled at us about how great the Mascara Dorada victory over Beast Mortos was on Wednesday.

It was just, it was sublime, is what it was.

But after 20 minutes or so,

they started just standing in a fucking three-way circle and forearming each other.

And finally, Okada beat Dorito with that shitty little clothesline he does.

At least the little guys can take a good bump for it.

And

nothing was accomplished.

I would be, if I was Tony and I had access to this kind of legal advice, I would be looking into loopholes in Okada's contract

so that I could free up several million dollars to hire somebody

that gives a shit and then anybody would give a shit about him.

But that's just my opinion.

Well, I mean, there's two ways to look at it.

You get some

talent.

that you have to pay a lot of money for.

Do you just say, I'm going to get my money's worth to the best of my ability one way or another and use them on top?

Or

do you consider it a sunk cost?

All right, I got to pay this guy, but he's going to sit on the bench.

Well, you don't care about sending other people home for a year and a half.

And not even, they don't even have to be hurt.

That's a very good point.

They don't have to be hurt.

Just after Perry fucked his whole company up.

He just said, go away until I want to talk to you again.

And he's, I'm sure all these people are paid regularly.

And

so I don't really, you know, but I'm just, I'm amazed that you take up the time with

hitting.

You know, when he first got to AEW, I thought you were being too hard on Okada because I had seen him in New Japan at his peak,

which was like the last period of time I really cared about New Japan.

And the more I would watch him, like, well, you know, this wasn't the night for him.

Or,

okay, there wasn't anything great there.

And the more you talked about it and the more I started watching him, he really, I don't like watching his matches.

You said nothing happens.

And then all of a sudden, it's like a hot 90 seconds at the end, maybe,

maybe less.

And he gets a victory and wins.

Every time he can save a step, every time he can go down a little easier, every time he can roll to the floor.

And there's the only facial expressions are goofy, fake ones.

And the slump-shouldered,

you know, awkward, flat-footed way of moving around, he's David Flair in the ring.

And so there's their problem is because the ones who defend this and or Tony's smoking the hopium, the wishful seeing, whatever that they're doing,

maybe he was great.

Even though he was great in Japan, he can't fucking speak and he has no personality.

So he's only going to go far over here.

But even if he was great in Japan,

they are assuming that everybody saw him in Japan.

And here's the guy over here that's looking at what they're presenting now, just like all the people that on their TV show

that didn't exist before five or six years ago, that had never seen.

Okada until whenever he came in here a couple of years ago.

That's what they're seeing is what I'm seeing.

What the fuck?

That's what they don't get.

The people that already were seeing him are seeing a memory

if they're still blind to this.

But everybody else is seeing, what the fuck, this fucking guy?

And then you also ruin your credibility when you talk about he's the greatest tournament wrestler of all time.

This fucking guy?

Yeah, by the way, before him, I don't remember anyone ever being called that on American Wrestling TV.

There was no previous greatest tournament wrestler of all time.

Well, because it means nothing anyway, except to people who are wrapped up in Japanese wrestling.

And then you ask yourself a question right away: is this a tournament?

Oh, no, it's not.

So it really doesn't even apply to this specific match in any way.

It's just, it's just a,

yeah,

it's a factoid about the fellow that's in it.

Anywho,

you want to get to the first big one, Brian.

We got to get to the first big one now because this set new standards:

the coffin match between Darby Allen and Dick the Boozer.

Something's the matter with a lot of these people, is all you can say.

As soon as

here comes Boozer and Schaefer entering through the arena,

and in the back of the building, Darby jumps them in the aisleway in the middle of the people.

And he's swinging a garbage can around.

And then he runs up to the balcony and gives him a coffin drop off the balcony.

And the people for a second go, holy shit, holy shit.

And then they quiet down and it's complete silence while they're having an endless

fight in the arena on stairs

in the cheap seats and down on that you can barely see the camera can't catch it

it's not that quick of a pace every once in a while they'll see somebody fall and they'll pop

and then they just walk fighted

or fight walked

what would that be brian where they just hold on to each other and they walk with each other and every 20 or 30 feet they hit each other with a half-hearted punch or run somebody into a rail is that fight walking or walk fighting?

A chat and attack.

That'll work.

And as they're going through, the people are laughing and they're taking their picture with their phones.

And

so then they go to ringside.

And did you see

on camera, the first good camera shot of the goddamn match was when they were climbing over the rail and Moxley was trying to get his blade out of his pocket and couldn't

or were you paying close enough attention actually i did not see that specific shot no

if you go back when they fight through the building and they're coming over the rail at the ringside area into ringside moxley is taking two fingers and his thumb down into his jeans pocket trying to get his blade out but he he couldn't get it he's fumbling it's The announcers even said, oh, watch Moxley.

They thought he was going to pull a screwdriver out or something.

No, he wasn't.

You weren't supposed to be looking at that.

They called attention to it.

So then,

when they get over it, that's when Darby was biting him on the ear forever before they got up and he was bleeding.

Yeah, I was watching during that period of time.

So I just missed it.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, apparently, without the blade, because you see in the background of the lengthy bite, Marina Schaefer bends over and picks it up off the ground where they had been.

But in the meantime, apparently he just told Darby, would just bite my ear because he came up bleeding.

It took him forever.

Or maybe Darby had a spare blade handy.

But it just, this is what an amateur fucking putz Moxley is.

You can't put a blade in the pocket of your goddamn jeans and expect to be able to pull it out in the right fashion without

anybody seeing it.

Nevertheless, after the long stationary effort, Moxley's ear was bleeding.

And then Moxley turned around.

It took forever to set up the coffin, but then Darby dove on him so both of them could fall in it.

And that's the thing.

This was

some stunt they would do, punctuated by everybody wandering around, selling around, or trying to set up props for the next trick.

At one point, Marina Schaefer was undoing the turnbuckle with a wrench.

It was like she was loosening the turnbuckle, like they were going to take the rope off.

And you never saw anything else about it.

Did you?

No, I don't think as you as you say that, I am thinking about it.

I remember her unscrewing it.

Why was she loosening the turnbuckle when nothing ever happened with taking the turnbuckle off?

I remember thinking, I wonder what she's going to do, and then nothing ever happened, but I forgot about it.

Did you also see that Claudio and Garcia and Yuda all came out

and stood around while nothing was happening?

And then he told them to leave.

What did they do?

They didn't do anything.

He just didn't want any help.

The heel didn't want help from them.

But they didn't come out trying to help him.

They just wandered out and stood around for a while.

And then Schaefer walked off.

And the crowd was quiet.

But then they sang something lightly,

but there was no action going on.

But then Darby would pull out a, he pulled a fork out of the turnbuckle and stabbed Moxley like 15 times in the head.

And there's more blood.

And he got the coffin drop on the coffin ends.

They broke the lid on their coffin.

And then Darby again is stabbing Moxley in the ear with the fork.

But Moxley gives Darby his finished double-arm DDT on the coffin.

And I'm thinking, again, my God,

this is September 20th.

It's the head-to-head

competition between WWE and AEW, their big shows, premium live event, pay-per-view, whatever.

And it's like the difference between what you would see at Radio City Music Hall and what you'd see at the Pink Pussy Porn Theater.

And just because Moxley, again, has these

fucking fantasies that he's Nick Gage and all of his toothless glory,

their show looks so goddamn low fucking rent.

So then

at Ringside, Danielson on commentary pulls out a duffel bag and gives it to Darby.

And Darby gets in a duffel bag and pulls out a plastic bag

and puts the plastic bag over Moxley's head and starts stomping the shit out of him

and puts him in the coffin.

But he doesn't have the lid shut when here comes Pack.

Remember Pack?

How long's Pac been gone?

It's got to be at least eight months, nine months, something like that.

Well, Pac's back,

and his hair is shorter.

And he comes in and kicks Darby right in front.

the referee is not only

they put him in this position where not only he's staring at this

and can't do anything about it because it's no disqualification lazy booking

but he doesn't even have an upset face he's just

he's not even in the moment where he's going, no, you don't belong here.

You should leave and waving his arms.

He's just standing there watching this fucking shit go on.

And that's why they can't register anything with people.

There's no legitimate emotion being invested in this shit because it's so over the top and stupid on a visual level.

People are just waiting for somebody else to do something that looks like it hurts.

And so

Pack

powerbombs Darby over the top rope onto the coffin on the floor

and then got a body bag and put Darby in the body bag, took his time

and then put Darby in the bag in the coffin and Moxley kicked the lid shut and the referee called for the bell ding, ding, ding.

And they think that that somehow

was a good idea.

Not only the

whether you, number one, Darby should have won, because my God, we've been inflicted with this fucking Moxley for so long.

But get some baby face over.

But

not only that, but even if you were going to put the heel over, it gets no heat when it's all just done right there at the heel's leisure

with nobody trying to stop it and the referee standing dumbfounded and slackjawed.

So what it was a rotten finish to a shitty match featuring the world's worst full-time pro wrestling.

And then they all carried the

Boer Horseman came back and carried the

coffin out of the arena.

Oh, joy.

And the fans booed, and it wasn't the boo your heels.

I think a lot of it is we don't like this Boar Horseman stuff, this Death Rider stuff.

Even if you get the big return of pack.

And boy, how much charisma did he show just standing there with his new haircut?

But the babyfaces get screwed over by Moxley, who is a heel that the fans are kind of sick of doing this, doing that.

Even the fans that like Moxley, I don't know if they like him with this fucking all-star stable.

And it's bigger now.

There's more of them.

Well, because now they have Daniel Garcia, and Pac is back.

Pack's back.

So Pac, Garcia, Garcia, Claudio, Useless,

Schaefer, Boozer.

There's six right there.

Did I get them all?

I think so.

Jesus, Chris, the modern-day NWO.

Anywho.

Yes.

Well, I was going to say, you know, perhaps after a match like that, you have to think about.

All the different parties involved.

And I don't just mean the two wrestlers who were banged up and bruised up and literally placed in body bags or coffins.

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Jim, there is more.

There are still

three more matches on this AEW Spectacular, and the next one was for the AEW Women's World Championship.

Well, they just had that before.

See,

Mercedes has nine women's world titles.

But not this one.

Well,

sooner or later she will.

Tony Storm versus Thecla versus Chris Statlander versus Jamie Hayter.

And

they've been teasing a past with Jamie Hayter and Tony Storm, and they had

bad feelings

in their dealings before.

And at least, you know.

What I'm trying to say is, I don't know what the fuck they've done here because Tony Storm is pretty much

one would assume the most popular

female talent on the roster, certainly the star of the company on the female side, right?

Can you think of

since they lost old Marilyn Monroe or

Blake Edwards, whatever her fucking name is.

I think to their fans, she's by far the biggest female star in the company by far.

So they just had Chris Statlander beat her right in the middle of one, two, three with a fucking roll-up.

After getting advice from Wheeler Utah.

Right?

You saw that part.

Yeah.

The best part of it is that's like

getting advice on goddamn finances from fucking Bernie Madoff.

They were three hours into the show, and they pop us in another girl's four-way.

Number one, no thanks.

I'm sorry, but we had a lot of

wrestling to watch.

But the deal was that

I popped in for the finish.

And as you mentioned, then there was the advice from old Wheeler.

Like he's, you know, related to the fucking Gracie family.

But you would have thought, okay, Thecla is, and I'm not knocking Chris Stadlander.

She's had a ton of potential, not really comfortable on promos yet, it doesn't seem like, but she's been there forever.

If they were going to do something,

you know, time was before.

Thecla's new.

She's different.

She's odd.

Very aggressive.

Hater had an issue with Storm.

Out of anybody that they're going to beat Tony Storm with,

they make it Statlander at this point and rolling her up with a little fucking snazzy little roll-up move one two three new champion and seemingly rolling up statlander into the universe of the death riders

well they need they need somebody because they don't have enough people in their group

at least

It's probably hard on Schaefer being the only woman.

At least now they can spread that around a little bit.

She'll have help.

Although it appears most of the time, Wheeler probably spends a lot of time in his basement playing video games instead of thinking about women.

All right, Jim.

Well, that was the AEW Women's World Title change.

We now go to it.

It certainly was.

Four-way ladder match for the AEW World Tag Team Championship.

We go to it.

Oh, boy, folks.

You had Josh Alexander and Hitcha-Cha-Chia

taking on Hong Kong Fuy and Kevin Knight, taking on the Hardley Boys, taking on Bandito and Burger King in a four-way ladder match for the tag team title.

And each of these teams, of course, has qualified in other multiple team garbage matches to be in this multiple team garbage match.

And we're three and a half hours into the show.

And this is the point in time now where the lollipop guild

get to play on the trampoline in their backyards with their friends, and we are forced to watch.

So, yay, now we have fake-looking indie wrestling now with ladders,

Brian.

It did go

with entrances, half an hour, 30 fucking minutes.

What is the purpose of watching this?

It's how can you keep track of who's doing what to do, to who, or in some cases, who's even on what team?

They just

go out and do shit intermittently for over and over.

What is the purpose of this?

I can't answer the questions for you.

I thought it was a.

What is the meaning of life?

I thought it was a just fine

tag team, multi-team ladder match.

We've seen a lot of those, it seems like.

And

Brodito,

big win.

Obviously, Tony Khan's really getting behind them.

Well, it's because he finally came up with a tag team name that doesn't sound completely stupid.

Brodito sounds like something you might have heard in a fucking 90s movie, but at least it rolls off the tongue.

But

the big news, though, was after the match was over.

That's what everybody's talking about because

after they all play for their, you know, half-hour recess,

and then the kids scamper back to the back.

The

two guys left in the ring all alone are the buckaroos, Maddie and Nikki.

And they're just standing there, but they're obviously not pitching anything, and the cameras are not cutting away, so you know something's about to happen.

And then

here comes Jungle Jack off into the ring.

How long has he been?

It's been

a year, I guess, right?

Or more.

And I haven't really been counting the days because I've just gotten so relieved that we haven't had a look at him.

But they stare at each other.

And then Jack tackles Matt.

And they all get in a fight.

Now,

wouldn't he,

whose side was he on when last we saw him?

Wasn't he affiliated with whatever thing that they were trying to do to stay on the cards at that point, the Buckaroos?

Oh, not stay on the cards, help run the company.

Remember, he turned with them to attack Tony Khan, and because they couldn't be fired, they were EVPs, he was protected, he was aligned with the Bucs.

Yes.

So now a year later, he comes back, he's mad at him.

Well, if you heard any of the commentary, and if you did, I apologize, but if you heard any of the commentary, I think Excalibur said they set this up with something on their YouTube show.

Oh, Christ.

Well, of course they did.

Well, anyway, Rocky Romero ran in because he was just dying to get a piece of that fucking prick.

But Perry dumped him too.

And then the Hardley boys double super kicked him and grabbed him and were about to knee lift him.

And he looked up at him and he laughed.

They're big on that spot.

They love that.

Because as he looks up at them and starts smiling, the lights go out.

And then you see on the video screen,

there's Perry digging up a coffin.

Now, right there, they completely lost us because anybody looks at Perry and see that there's no way he could dig a six-foot-deep hole by himself.

Perry digging up a coffin with a cinematographer friend.

Yes,

who didn't want to help with the shovel.

And then he chains it to the back of his

bread delivery van and drags it down the road.

And now he's in a laboratory where he revives Dino Douche,

good old Luchasaurus.

And then suddenly the lights come on, and there's Dino in the ring.

And he double choke slams the buckaroos.

Now, again,

the biggest pop maybe of the night

was for Dino.

They loved it.

He's back.

That part was great.

When Perry showed up in the ring, people were like,

However, it was ambivalence.

When Perry indicate, when the fans started dancing on their own to the Jungle Boy song and then they played it, I feel like it was almost like a moment of happiness amongst their fan base because it was a feeling akin to years ago when we used to come and dance to this song.

Oh boy, here at the AD.

Yeah.

And for the new

viewers or new listeners out there, when Dino hugged Jack, they played Tarzan Boy.

And that's what the people like because now they've got their own song that they can not only wave to, but sing whoa, whoa,

in some form.

I'm really happy for the family, the estate, and the publisher of Baltimore.

They were waiting for a night like this.

It's been a couple of years.

They didn't know if it would ever happen again.

But that's the thing.

The people

like Dino.

The problem is he can't work, as we've seen repeatedly, and nobody there can book him to hide it because either they don't know how or he won't listen.

Perry's back where he was five years ago as the stooge to the fucking big guy that they like.

And

now we're going to, again, so that the buckaroos can bring together the whole

lollipop guild, they can work with more of their friends.

So we're going to see this.

We waited a year for Perry to come back for him to be in the same spot he's in five years ago as the sidekick to the fucking large lizard.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

We're going to see the Jurassic Express against the Young Bucks.

They're all friends.

So hopefully that means they'll have fun, cooperative matches that the fans will really enjoy.

A big moment here.

And

a big moment.

I hope they bring Anna Jay in, maybe as Jungle Girl.

Put her in a loincloth, have her swing out on a rope.

I don't know.

Go all the way with it.

What about the outfit that Marino Sullivan got to wear in Tarzan the Ape Man?

That works for me.

Two years before Tarzan and his mate, the Hayes office had taken over.

Anyhow.

This was something.

Just the kind of lack of reaction when he got in, the ambivalence to it.

And then, of course, while they're holding him about to hit him and the lights go out,

The video was like a minute, maybe a minute and a half, but maybe a minute.

They didn't do anything to Perry, they just stood there holding his hands, watching the video.

Yeah, no, when the lights came on, he was still down there.

And well, he's used to being on his knees in front of them with them holding his hand or head or hair or something.

But he had not, oh, in any way, shape, or form, tried to move.

And by the way, I know they're friends, but if you're going to reanimate anyone from wrestling history to be on your side and help you, that's who you're going to pick.

Well, see, that was part of it.

They had a video of him bringing bringing, like, Dr.

Frankenstein bringing him back to life.

But that's the thing.

You can't just reanimate anybody now.

It has to be a cold-blooded reptilian

because they last longer in the cryogenic thing.

So then, I guess the question also is the pay-per-view in England,

was Luchasaurus going to be there if Kip Sabian hadn't gotten hurt?

Or did they just, instead of waiting until this to bring Luchasaurus back, which would have been even bigger if they both returned on the same night, not if we had seen Luchasaurus wrestling with the heels for the last month.

Well, you know, now that you brought that up, that's the thing is that now we know why that

Pip Sabian was abusing Luchasaurus over the past few weeks to give him more

pissed off reason to turn babyface in this.

But remember, when they brought him back,

it doesn't make any sense.

They brought him back once.

He was a big heel, but he wasn't a heel because he was being abused by his partners.

But now his program is with the buckaroos instead of the people who've been slapping him around for the last month.

And when they brought him back, they had a short little vignette video, a lot shorter than the one you had here.

And you only saw probably shot at the same time.

Yeah.

So that means Jack Perry brought him back.

And instead of saying, I'll need you there for me, he's like, go help Mother Wayne in this battle against Christmas.

That's right.

Yes.

None of this

makes Eddie

Eddie's got a hundred guys sitting at home.

He's paying to do nothing, but he had to bring the lizard back for a month for that match that he shouldn't have had Edge and Christian work because it took the Edge off Toronto.

It's going to be interesting to see what the show becomes.

And the same week, you're going to have the return of Jack Perry and the return of Orange Cassidy.

So you're filling the show back up with the stars of year one.

All right.

Well, moving along, because we got an update on the previous stars that you know, Moxley and Darby had the coffin match, right?

Well, all of a sudden now we're in the back, and Moxley and all of his stooges are there with the coffin.

Apparently, we're expected to believe that an hour and a half or so ago, they had this match.

The heels were allowed to carry the babyface in the coffin out of the arena, and nobody has tried to get the fucking guy out of the coffin.

And by the way, the coffin, the coffin door wasn't even closing at that point when the match.

Well, no, they had broke it when they did the splashes on it.

So it's just laying on top of the deal.

But the point is,

nobody stopped them, said, Hey, let that fucking guy out.

They're just back there in the back of the building, and Moxley mumbled against something.

And all the stooges peel out in the truck.

And then, as soon as they do,

the coffin lid comes off, and Darby comes out with a lead pipe and hits Moxley with it and puts him in a body bag.

And he's going to hit him with a lead pipe.

And then he sees something.

Oh, well, this is better.

So he gets a spray can of some kind of shit and sprays it all over the bag and then sets the body bag on fire

with Moxley in it.

Who's going to, oh,

and then a guy runs in with a fire extinguisher, and a couple others drag Darby away after they put Moxley out

from setting him on fucking fire.

And it burned through the bag.

It wasn't like some fireproof bag because it got through the bag, if you notice.

Yeah, no, they did some kind of stunt where they say, okay, now you're going to.

You're going to be here with the goddamn fire extinguisher, right?

That type of deal.

What the these fucking morons.

The only believable part is you know obviously taking law enforcement and putting that aside I believe you could light someone on fire backstage at AEW and not lose your job

well they've done it

several times so obviously this feud isn't going anywhere

that has a double meaning how do you go what's next after

a coffin match and then a post-coffin match burning in the body bag.

Gabe Kid, did we ever see Gabe Kid again after he was dragged away in that body bag?

I forgot about that.

No, he must be out in the desert.

We need to get Dr.

Jack Perry on that case to revive him, too.

Yeah, you were counting members of a death group before.

The death, uh, not death triangle, the uh, death riders is what they are.

He's another one, I guess.

He's an associate, at least.

Anyhow,

damn it.

I just want the music.

Thank you very much.

Well,

I know

the people out there are thinking already, but it's time for our main event.

Only four hours and 15 minutes into this show.

So they deliberately

extended the show and made this shit drone on even longer

in the attempt to somehow.

and

Brian, I don't know why that anybody couldn't talk him out of this or explain to him the actual facts of the thing, but Tony Kahn legitimately believed that if he made his pay-per-view

go five hours,

that somehow that would

take viewers away from WrestlePalza, that people wouldn't tune away from his show to tune in their show.

Most of them weren't watching his show to begin with that were going to watch this thing.

And many others were probably still trying to figure out how to watch the WWE show

because they were confused about that.

But would you think the number of people

who were

dissuaded from watching the WWE show at all because this thing was going into its fifth hour

would be negligible or minuscule?

Which one?

I can't imagine it would be a big hurt to the overall number, maybe a small blip on the live number.

But remember, too, WWE announced in advance they're starting with Cena versus Brock.

Exactly.

They put it out there right away, 8 o'clock, or not 8 o'clock, 7 o'clock.

This is where we're going.

That's why I was surprised when the main event went as long as it did.

But

I don't think that hurt the WWE event.

I think issues with the app and downloading it and resistance to downloading it or paying for it, those are going to be the issues.

Yeah, but this was just needlessly extending this show already

that had multiple things.

How many people have you heard about?

We talked about we're bleeding.

How many pieces of furniture so far have been broken?

A guy's been set on fire.

And then these two come out:

Kyle Felcher and Hangnail Adam Page, or hang ma'am, as the internet has started calling him.

And they're going to go 40 fucking minutes or whatever, because they think that that means they're going to have a classic world title match and really get Kyle to the next level.

When in actuality, they're going to break a few more tables.

But that nobody's going to bleed.

Nobody's going to be set on fire.

Now you got, I bet a lot of those people in the building in Toronto were like, shit,

if they'd have got this thing over in three and a half hours, we could be home to see Brock and Cena.

So

their men's world title match.

And again, they're calling it that.

And

I don't know who's the proponent of that.

But it's oddly worded.

It's ridiculous that anybody's going to confuse it.

It's ridiculous that you should actually

put the women's world title on the level of the men's world title to even differentiate them.

While I'm not sure that either Kyle or Paige fits the criteria fully to challenge for the men's world title, it's just stupid wording.

It's very odd.

Having said that,

this should have gone on in the middle middle of this card.

There is no real issue here, and they got a boring world champion that says the same shit in the same way all the time, and he has the same kind of match the same way all the time.

And the only time that Paige has been different is when he's been in there with somebody that knew what the fuck they were doing, like MJF or punk.

That's the only time his matches have been different.

And with Kyle,

he's going to work as hard as he possibly can

and do anything that he's asked to do because he's grateful to have this spot.

And he seems to be a very nice young man.

He's got all the physical talent in the world, but he will never learn.

anything in this environment about wrestling.

He won't learn how to put matches together.

He'll keep having matches like this.

He will learn bad habits instead of proper psychology.

And this may be the biggest wasted potential on the whole roster.

And as I said before, I don't even think he should be in an

NXT program.

He should be

in an OVW where instead of 150 guys, there was 25 or 30.

And there was individual instruction with on-the-job training from guys that still understood the business and the opportunity to apply it in small towns in front of small crowds without

being exposed before you were ready.

And Kyle

could be a phenomenon.

But right now, he's going to be another talented athletic indie guy that they have to take and completely retrain when he eventually gets up there.

And it may be too late.

Yeah, the crowd sits staring at a lot of times, and it pops on shit that looks like somebody got injured.

And

it's a page match, they do a lot of moves with the table,

and Paige will go up and climb up to the top rope and backflip backwards off without looking two or three times, just because he knows the guy's supposed to catch him.

And

they're trying to have a classic, So that means they'll do something that should hospitalize both guys.

And then they'll lay there and sell for fucking five minutes and then get up and be 100%

again.

And watching this match put me in suspended animation.

I just zoned out.

What's the difference between the baby face and the heel?

They're both doing the same shit.

What

is the babyface gives the heel a tombstone pile driver on the floor and then a DDT on the floor.

And then they sell forever, but then Paige climbs up to the top without looking

and backflips.

He's already done it once before.

And Kyle moves and kicks Paige.

And Kyle's up and fine after the tombstone and the DDT because now it's his turn.

And then he brainbusters Paige through a table to the floor.

And everybody lays there forever

and they got 15 more minutes of match to do after a brain buster off the table through the floor

and then

Kyle

I felt bad for him

the punishment that his leg was receiving when he was slapping the shit out of his own leg over and over

But if you kick

Adam Page

73 times like that and it hadn't stopped him if you quit kicking him and try something else

that's what they would do they again they would suddenly

jump up and do a hundred miles an hour leading into a stunt and then sell to the point it was like Jesus Christ please get up and do anything the Grand Canyon took less time to form

And then they had set up a table on the floor,

but then they hadn't used it.

They had

misdirected us.

But then they went back to the apron in front of the table that they had set up 15 minutes earlier.

And Paige dead-eyed

Kyle off the apron through the table right on his head on the floor.

And they laid there forever.

And then they did a quick exchange and then they laid there forever.

Then they hopped up and they went 100 miles an hour.

And Danielson was having a hernia trying to will this by sheer power of brain into being a classic wrestling match.

It was the longest match I'd ever seen.

And then Kyle ripped

the turnbuckle pad off of the turnbuckle,

which was it the second, Brian, or was it the third time

that that had been done so far in the show?

I lost track.

Not counting Marina Shafir.

That was a different thing.

I think second, maybe.

No.

Yeah, no, she was just unloosening it.

The other, this was ripping the buckle off.

Well, anyway,

he put Paige

on the turnbuckle and kicked him

and then went for the brain buster on the turnbuckle.

And then my picture froze and the buffering started again.

and it just buffered and buffered and buffered

and I couldn't get it to do anything

and then the notification came up on the screen something has gone wrong please try again later

and by the time that I could get the thing back again

It wanted me to start all the way from the fucking beginning.

So I went online and I understand that he fucking flung him off the top rope on his head and beat him.

That is correct.

Is that about what happened?

That's about what happened after 38 minutes or so.

He beat Kyle Fletcher.

Adam Page did.

Yes.

So,

and again, before anybody knocks my internet, that's why I went and checked my speed.

946 over 860 something.

It's just what the

did you want to do.

If I really wanted to see, what?

Did you know I was watching it?

It suddenly just froze.

So throughout the entire five-hour event, did you pause it?

Oh, many times.

Many times.

Maybe that triggered it so that you ran out of like the live feed.

No, this was with the next morning, this morning when I came back.

This was the last part of it.

I had watched the last half of it.

until then with no problems whatsoever.

And if it had been something I really wanted to see and I'd have paid for it, and it did that, I would have been fucking pissed.

But it's fuck this streaming bullshit.

But also, the point is,

again, in their minds, because they've been taught this way by whoever runs the School of Indie Wrestling.

Oh, if we have a great match and it goes a long time and then I

beat Kyle by the skin of my teeth, then it will get him over.

No, what would have got him over was a concerted and cohesive push as an individual, not with a real manager instead of Don play acting sometimes as a manager.

and an issue, a personal issue with the fucking champion

and

him almost trying to fuck the champion and the champion foiling his evil deed and escaping by the skin of his teeth, not just let's do every move we know how to do until we can't do anymore and then we'll just end it.

But that's what they do over here.

And again, it was hard to even focus on this.

You know, for anyone who thought I was just going to watch both on different times, I watched one right into the other because I had to watch everything because we're doing this today.

And I had Lesnar versus Cena on one monitor and AEW on the other.

And I cared more about Cena versus Lesnar than I did about this match that didn't seem like it was going to end.

Well, of course.

And that's, that's what, again, they're just, they're k-fabing themselves in AEW, as Vince used to say,

because

Just like with the Overrun, where they've lost most of their audience at the end and they shoot the big angle,

They put their world title match on where

anybody that was watching their show,

they would have seen the world title match, regardless of whether the show had gone fucking five hours or not.

But they put it in the goddamn position of whether now that

it's four hours into the show and we've got this mega match on the other thing.

Maybe I'll come back to it.

And maybe they don't.

Why put

your world title match against a match from a much bigger company involving much bigger stars instead of getting it over so they have the choice of switching over if they want to?

Because

probably

a number of people probably did.

But

well, that was all out.

It's

another example.

It's excess.

It's doing the same kind of things over over and over in different matches on the same show.

It's wearing the live crowd out that's already basically come there just to see people hurt themselves.

And

they're going back to where it's like year one, which was their,

in terms of talent, the first year was their most amateurish year because they had pockets

and they had

Jungle Boy and they had the Kookamunga kids and they had the

Japanese outlaw girls and it was

rotten.

And now they've run off the talent that they've acquired

in those intervening years and they're having to focus on these fucking backyard friends from

Calabasas County or whatever.

It's it's boy here we go

Well, there we go.

That was AEW all out 2025.

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They may say, hey, why are you watching wrestling all day on Saturday?

They may want to sue.

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I think if I got a country star, I was like, Hey, Steve, I need some help.

My wife, she's going to leave me because I'm watching Raw every Monday.

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All right, lots of drama.

And here we are, ladies and gentlemen.

The final portion of the show, the look at WWE's WrestlePalooza,

an extravaganza like no other, meaning it was hard to find because you didn't know where to find it, or you did know, and it was a pain in the ass.

From Indianapolis,

Jim WrestlePalooza.

Indianapolis, Indiana, baby.

Well, they had about 15,000 plus people up there, according to the incomparable Michael Cole.

And to make sure that I was getting this show, I turned in, turned in, tuned in.

I should have turned in.

I tuned in about 15 minutes early and I caught on their pregame show, and they played it later, but the Brock Cena package was incredible.

That was a piece of art, especially

not only the editing, but when you sit Brock down and do a sit-down with him and get sound bites,

that's the best use of Brock speaking.

The longer he goes,

the more the aura diminishes.

But

that's the whole thing about this,

the WWE in general and this particular Russell Palooza show.

The quality of the production from a technical standpoint as a television product is

light years ahead of what

AEW does or can do.

And

a lot of that truthfully masks the fact that WWE, while AEW, again, does way too much, WWE just the bare minimum that they have to.

But it's just presented in such a

big-time way.

The God Bless America by the war and treaty, I don't know what they won a Grammy for, but I know them from a diabetes commercial.

But it's not,

I mean, this show is just, you can tell they've got their shit together as professionals.

And the history package between

where they juxtapose the history of ESPN and the history of the WWF and

how they're both renegades and nice to see sticks getting a check, but the music fit

and Triple H doing the voiceover written especially for him.

The editing is amazing.

And did you notice, Brian, when they showed Vince on the package, he got a pop in the building?

That sound, that pop was him crashing into someone on the Merritt Parkway, I believe.

Well, no, you would have heard a little glass breaking after the fact.

Anyway, the package, amazing editing.

And the point was sports is entertainment, always has been, always will be.

And then suddenly the lights go up, and there's Triple H in the ring with new cut, the white ropes, and the whole color scheme.

Welcome to the final form of sports and entertainment.

And they blow off Pyro.

And it's a big-time show, and they don't sound like do-it-yourself announcers.

And they don't

do shit that doesn't look like it's supposed to when it didn't work in rehearsal because they didn't rehearse it.

They don't build fake rooms to break through fake walls.

This is

anyhow.

And then the truck pulls in and it's Pat McAfee in Indianapolis.

Imagine that.

And he gets the big entrance and the big hometown pop and the McAfee chant.

And I don't know why he only stayed the first three matches.

Did he have like,

is he on home incarceration?

He's got to be in by nine?

Or what was the deal there?

I don't know.

But otherwise, you know, that added something for the people in Indianapolis.

And he's a, McAfee's a name from,

you know, television as seen on TV.

Maybe to prepare for Sunday.

It's, you know, at the NFL.

Well, Jesus Christ, he's already sitting there and he couldn't stay two more hours.

Nevertheless,

it's time for Brock and Cena.

And here comes Brock and he's fucking massive.

And I mean, just giant sized.

And boom, he gets in the ring and they wait and they milk and they get the Cena chance

and the music plays and it's the big pop.

And here comes Cena out with 50 little kids dressed just like him in the t-shirt and the cap and the

brian i'm not that familiar with children how old would you say the age ranges of those children were you are familiar with children

the age range i don't know anywhere from

how old how old are they when they're about seven feet tall 14 i don't know well there you they were they were They were about 12 inches on either side of three feet tall apiece.

Wouldn't you say that's an accurate representation?

My first thought was, where are their parents?

There's a lot of kids there.

That's a lot of kids.

Where are all those parents?

And boy, I tell you what, just for liability's sake, if a couple of those kids had gone off the reservation and gone rogue and run down that ramp, we'd have had all kinds of shit going on.

But anyhow, so they gave the statistic.

Cena and Brock are one and one

in the WWE at least.

And Cena's got 99 pay-per-view wins.

And you just knew this was going to be number 100.

So they got the Let's Go Cena chance going on, and they have the in-ring introduction.

Cena gets his big intro,

and

old Weird Hare starts to turn and announce Brock.

And suddenly, ladies and gentlemen, it's Happy Heyman.

And he's on the apron and gives Brock the big intro.

The former UFC champion, undisputed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

The last real ass kicker, Barack Lasta.

How does Paul get away with doing that at his age, in his condition, where he can just do that and not keel over?

But that it already had the big fight feel, and that was the,

you know, the thing people wanted, to be honest, even though everybody's a heel, you wanted to hear that introduction.

And

they set it up on SmackDown, didn't they, the night before when Brock walked past Haven and said, we got to talk.

Yeah.

And then the next night

we got this.

Yeah,

that conference led to an introduction.

But then they rang the bell.

And

I've got to say that I am somewhat astonished.

And I will give my thoughts on this.

It started the way that I knew it should, and it probably would, that Brock was all over him.

And the people are chanting, let's go, Cena.

But at the clotheslines and the turnbuckles and the power slam and the clothesline and a German and a German,

he's really kicking the shit out of Cena.

Then John fires back up

and gives him the tackles.

And finally, Brock takes a bump and two.

attitude adjustments and the fans are going batshit and then three attitude adjustments.

Well, the third, not three more.

And he gets a two count.

But then he goes to do the you can't see me

and runs off the ropes right into a fucking F5.

And then Brock picks him up and gives him a second F5.

And Cena's selling, and Brock picks him up and gives him a third F5.

And Cena's selling, and Brock's taking his time, a fourth F5.

And he takes his time a fifth F5.

And he takes his time a sixth F5.

And he covered him one, two, three.

It wasn't 10 minutes.

So that was interesting.

And then Brock came back in,

F5 the referee, and then gave Cena another F5

and left.

And Cena finally got up and he wanted to walk out under his own power and he milked and got the thank you, Cena, chance and the big cheers.

But

they're obviously going to bring this back, one would think.

Is this his retirement match where he gets some type of redemption?

Was that the deal

they made with Brock before they brought him back?

You're one and one with Cena.

Let's go one and one, and you'll end up two and two.

And you'll be the last match?

Because otherwise, why would

they didn't need Brock and Cena to

save this show because really the interest was the mixed tag?

And yes, this was a big headline match,

but why would

Brock is over?

Brock doesn't need to destroy John Cena to be over enough to face anybody else.

So, to destroy Cena in a big, major event like this in his last match in Indianapolis and one of his last matches in the company,

now that they've just course corrected and made him a babyface as he should have been, and everybody's supposed to feel good from here on out,

I think this has to be the setup for the last one where he gets his

redemption and fights back against the

monster that he wasn't ready for

because otherwise they just kind of made people feel flat and

why did Brock need this to face anybody else that they might want to book him with after Cena's retired is my question

you know what I was thinking about too is Heyman

Heyman and Lesnar feels right.

Brock never seems happier than when he's bouncing around while Heyman talks about him.

Yeah.

That's the biggest smile I've ever seen on Relaxer's face.

I've seen it several times while Heyman's just talking about him.

It works.

And it's a cool moment for the fans for Heyman to reveal himself.

I don't know how he snuck to ringside.

For Heyman to reveal himself.

I think actually that they had a piano crate with a sheet over it

on wheels.

And while nobody was looking, they pushed it to ringside and got a crane from AAA to take the top off.

Well, I don't know how he got there, but all all of a sudden Heyman was there.

A cool moment.

Fans reacted to it.

Beyond that, did he do anything to actually help his

heel

charge?

No, he left.

He wasn't even, he didn't even stay.

Yeah.

He just introduced him.

Yeah, that was, you know,

that's what they wanted.

And I can see that.

A little wink-wink.

But, but no, if

they want to book Brock with anybody else after Cena's gone, this didn't aid in that because Brock doesn't need to be any more over.

The only thing this would aid in is a return match where Cena says, just one, I just got to see if I can do this.

So we shall see.

Is that a good final match?

And if you know you're going there, it gives you a little bit of time to build, even though you have some stuff in between.

Cena having to overcome Brock Lesnar.

Is that a good final match?

And

Cena would have to win that, right?

Well, yes.

And

I know a lot of people are saying, oh, don't you know, Jim, it's the wrestling protocol.

They should do a job on the way out.

When you're leaving the territory, yes, not when you're leaving the goddamn business.

That's why I've had the gripe with Cena being a heel

for much of this is that we said from the start, people didn't want to boo him.

People wanted to see the last time and, you know,

their

hero that they like now more than they did when he was actually their fucking hero.

And now that they've got it course corrected, again, you know, that

it just doesn't make sense.

A lot of people would say, well, should Cena have put over a young heel that's going to be there full-time?

Again, yeah, if it wasn't billed as his retirement tour, this is the last time you get to see him.

I think the, especially the very last time,

it's a feel-good moment.

It's not just somebody putting somebody over because they're leaving.

It's they're, they're done forever.

And I mean, there's always

circumstances and context that would change your mind, but I think

Potentially what they've done is with this, they've said, okay, we can build Brock up and Brock can beat Cena

because it's believable.

And then we can build a return match where Cena gets his win back and Cena doesn't have to beat another of our full-time fucking guys on the roster.

And at the same time,

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austin theory

oh gee is he still there

i don't know where he is where the did he go remember he beat cena that was going to make him after cena tore him apart in a promo yeah well that you know that's what i'm saying i think you know this is probably

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Let's Return to beautiful tropical Indianapolis for WWE WrestlePalooza.

Well, and this was the big reunion of the Usos, the

former great tag team that is split apart when one of them got a chance to be a main event guy and the other when they've been doing everything they can to keep him afloat.

But now it means something that they're back together because it's been a couple of years.

And they took on Paul Heyman's one tag team combination in his stable, Bronson Reed and Braun Breaker.

And they made L.A.

Knight the special referee because he has been having these various issues with all parties, except he kind of likes Jimmy Uso.

So

they added that late,

the special referee thing.

I don't know whether somebody had a fucking idea or whatever.

But nevertheless,

you know, again,

this is a big time visuals they did.

The Usos entrance,

they even had them come out and cut the music and had Jimmy cut the promo to pep the people up with the cell phone spotlights so that they could do the big entrance and everybody's waving and got the lights and the music and they got their video.

And of course, it all took forever.

But then after they got that business out of the way, Heyman came down with the Heyman, come down, sound like Uncle Harold now.

And then Heyman came down from the old Mulholland place.

Heyman came down with

his boys.

And

this is what I was saying again.

I'll just say it real quick one more time.

If you have a regular tag team composed of guys that are seen by the fans as main event level talent, and Braun Breaker is, and Bronson Reed is there now.

And Jay Uso definitely, and Jimmy to some extent.

It gets people interested in tag team matches again.

But they need to do things like this.

And

this was not a classic tag team match by any stretch of the imaginations because the Usos are not a good working tag team in the ring.

They're sloppy as shit.

But they have the personality.

It's like two Jimmy Valions teaming up in, you know, the Carolinas, the early 80s.

So they get by with that.

But

otherwise, than that, it was a tag team match that people want to see the baby faces win.

They have the match, boom, boom, boom.

And suddenly, you know, they were kicking it into high gear and everybody was hitting everything.

Jay hit his splash.

And

then

Jay grabbed the chair.

And of course, they

still have relaxed rules over here, even in this company.

They can't have a match without chairs and tables and shit.

But Jay pulls out the chair and whacks Braun Breaker over the back, and Braun's so solid.

And Jay leaned forward,

the chair bounced right back and immediately smacked Jay in the goddamn head and busted him open.

He's gushing blood.

And how about that?

it

i'm like what the fuck it

but it just let that be a lesson to all the prospective young wrestlers out there when you hit somebody that's

that's pretty solid with a fucking chair don't lean over forward with it give yourself some fucking space because that

The spot that the heel does every once in a while where he swings the chair and the guy moves and he hits the top rope and the chair flies back, that comes from real life.

I've seen it happen for a shoot too.

So anyway, he busts himself open.

And then I don't know if they were going to do anything else

there at that point, but

you heard L.A.

Knight, he saw him bleeding and he looked over.

And then he goes over to Braun Breaker

and he says, go to the spear.

because you can hear it on the tape.

And then

he speared fucking jay while he's bleeding and then they they basically they kicked it in speared both the usos through the table in the ring and then

brawn splashed brawn splash sprashed blonde blonde sprash blonde

blonde splash sprashed

Reed, come off the top rope on one of them.

One, two, three.

That's what happened.

So they may have got out of there a little quicker because Jay was losing blood by the gallon.

Yeah.

The Blondells look good.

The Usos, we'll see what happens with Jay Uso's face.

And obviously,

you know, they lost, so you would think this isn't the end of this, but we'll see what happens with Jay Uso's face first.

And

they're putting them over big.

And even when they came out, I don't know if you noticed, they had matching leather jackets.

Yeah, see that.

They're looking more and more like a team.

That's the thing is that you need to create two individual guys, but they look good together and they have connection

in their matches where they don't have to double team like the Midnight Express, but they have to have some ability to work together, which they do.

And then, and they need to be seen as main event level guys.

I'd put the fucking tag team belts on Reed and Breaker because they're useless now.

But as on Reed and Breaker, that's gold for them to carry.

It's something for them to brag about.

And they can beat all the other teams.

It doesn't hurt anything.

And then they can have this program with the Usos, who are 18 million time tag team champions.

And it might elevate it a little bit and get something out of the tag team belts that are just

wallowing in obscurity.

If they got a little bit of a run with the tag belts, not like a two-week thing and they drop them, but a little bit of a run with them, it would do more to establish those belts or re-establish them than anything else because there's no other team in that company that if they held the belt for eight months, it would mean something.

They would tell you it meant something, but it wouldn't mean anything to the fans.

Well, because all they'd been doing is defending it in the second preliminary match against guys that ain't over.

Anyhow,

you know what was next, don't you, Brian?

I do.

Yes.

Would you like to tell the people what was next?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Was it the women's championship match?

Yes, it was.

It was E.O.

Skye versus Stephanie Vaquer for the held-up

women's championship.

Is it the women's or the WWE?

Which

women's world or WWE women's.

The Women's World and Wayne's World.

Party on.

Excellent.

See, I'm about to ask you some questions because you,

you, the first thing you asked me, did you watch E.O.

Skye and Stephanie Vacker?

And I said, on a day of 10 hours of back-to-back nonstop wrestling, you're going to ask me, and y'all, come on, it was a great match.

Stephanie's great.

Here's the thing.

I'm not saying.

that it wasn't a good wrestling match where they performed wrestling moves correctly and might have even been exciting for the audience that was already sitting there.

But let me ask you a couple questions, Brian.

What

personal animosity, personal issue is between these two young ladies that necessitated me seeing this match?

There is no personal issue.

It is a battle for a held-up championship.

And normally in wrestling, well, there's nothing wrong with that, a cold match, but for a world championship, well, that could still be important, except

how many women's world titles are there in the WWE system right now?

You just asked.

Women's World War II.

Is it WWE women's title or women's world title or NXT title?

I don't know if NXT is Worlds.

At least it's NXT women's champion.

And then there's, of course, the World Champion and the WWE.

Or maybe it's just Raw and SmackDown.

I'm not exactly sure how it works.

Now there's Intercontinental, but that's not Worlds.

Yeah.

Well, it is not the world, but it's a belt.

It's just, yeah, it's just all the land, all the continents.

That's all it is.

Yeah, I think there's tag belts, but again,

we don't even need to get into the tag team situation, but basically there's multiple single women's championships in the company.

This is for a vacant one that was vacated by Naomi, the one we were interested in.

When she got pregnant.

Well, Jimmy Uso was interested in her too.

That's the issue.

Well, yeah, well, unfortunately, he got there first.

But now we've got two young ladies fighting each other just to see who's going to get the belt that the other girl gave up when she got knocked up.

And

what really blistering fireball Bring Down the Heavens promos have Stephanie Vacker and E.O.

Skye cut

here lately or in their careers that makes me want to listen to them talk me into the building and see this match.

I can't say anything about EO Sky's promos doing that for you.

I think Stephanie Vacare, that hasn't really been the direction for her to do that.

It's been more promos to establish her personality and who she is as you watch her dominate and beat everyone and have a quick rise.

Would you say that her promos are of the level of, oh, I don't know,

maybe even not, let's say not Becky Lynch, but even a

fucking Bianca or Aria.

I don't think we've seen that from her yet.

They are enjoyable because she has an accent, so it's a very pleasant accent to listen to her talk.

Okay.

But no, I would not compare her to the promos of the women trained in the WWE system right now.

So basically, you wanted me to watch a match between two girls that don't do good promos and don't have a personal issue.

Right.

and are fighting over one of the various miscellaneous women's championships that neither one of them even holds, that they're just fighting over it because the other one that we were interested in,

as we mentioned before, had to go on maternity leave in the middle of 10 hours straight of wrestling, and they're going to go 20 minutes.

And then at the end of the match, they shake hands, hug, and bow to each other.

So the answer is: no,

no,

I'm not going to do that because I don't care.

And I'm not saying that E.O.

Skye can't do a lot of great wrestling moves.

I just don't care.

And to be quite honest,

since the business that was attracted to the show was primarily because of Becky Lynch and A.J.

Lee,

I would have kept Stephanie and EO off the show entirely so that Becky and AJ,

as the only females on the show, were that much more special.

Because

not one single person tuned in because Stephanie was wrestling EO.

But while Lesnar and Cena was a big thing and Cody and Drew are stars and the Usos getting back together was an attraction,

the business of this show was the mixed tag match.

Why put girls in to go 20 minutes before you got more girls coming out that we paid to see.

Well, again, that's why I didn't watch this match.

It's not a one-girls match per show company, and it hasn't been.

Well, but it would keep them more fucking special.

Well, this was not needed.

Who gave a shit?

Well, it was a good match.

The fans got into it.

Spectacular finish.

One of the most spectacular finishes I've ever seen.

She hit, I don't even know what you would call it.

They called it something like a corkscrew moonsault.

As fast as you've ever seen it she hit it perfectly and then rolled her up in a way too i've never like she hooked her leg with her legs it was immaculate it was so good stephanie vaccera

you know watch out rhea ripley stephanie vaccera is really really really good yeah really i understand you hate eo sky and uh i don't hate her or her future children and anyone else in her family but stephan number one it it was it was a wonderful fucking flippy thing off the top rope.

I wouldn't have been laying there underneath that thing.

There was not a very much margin for error at all.

But I don't think Rhea Ripley has to watch out for anything unless Stephanie Vakur suddenly learns how to fucking act like a movie star and cut a goddamn incredible promo.

Because this is wrestling.

We need to want to see you fight, not just go out and

hop around.

Everybody's doing that these days.

But that was my summation of, I'm sorry.

Really good match.

Really good match.

I'm sure it was.

Why do I care?

I'll tell you what I cared about the next match because that was the one that, and that's where they made the mistake.

In

go ahead.

I was going to say, I'll tell you what, I think more people cared about Stephanie Vacare versus E.O.

Sky than cared about Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre on this card.

I think you're correct in the way that it was, it came across on television.

That's why I think they should have put Cody and Drew before the mixed tag, because it was a letdown.

It was, it's not they don't like Cody and it's not that Drew's not a star.

There wasn't that big of a pressing issue between them that they've been working on and building up lately.

But while there was nothing the matter with the match, it couldn't match the mixed tag.

That's what they came to see.

And

they knew the Cena and Leicester was already done.

And now the mixed tag, and they're fucking tired.

And here comes this match, and they're going to be polite.

But that's what it was.

It was a polite response.

Mixed tag should have gone on last.

Well, speaking of which, Jim.

Yes.

The big match, I would say the biggest match on the show.

No disrespect to Brock and Cena, but I think this is the match that the show kind of felt like it was built around.

The return of AJ Lee to the ring as part of this intergender tag team feud amongst couples.

Where's Chuck Woolery when you need him?

Well, what about

not Chuck Woolery, but who was it?

Jim Lang,

the host of the dating game.

Now, Seth and Becky came out.

They were lowered on a platform in purple Spaceman outfits.

And again, remember what I said.

Now that Becky is with Seth, Heyman doesn't need to go out twice a night.

Heyman can concentrate on the bronze, and Seth has somebody.

In singles matches, I think it would be good if Becky goes with Seth.

They can all talk together.

They can be in group interviews, but this breaks it up a little bit and establishes subgroups within the whole collective.

Anyway, they got them chanting CM punk, and then suddenly,

Akamussalini

and A.J.

Lee.

See how it works there?

I mean, it could have worked.

I don't know what you did.

Well, it's a punk came out.

It's clobbering time.

And they faded into A.J.

Lee's music and got a big pop.

And

as much as I like cult of personality,

I guess it does fit better for her to fucking light it up or whatever it is.

Is that again?

Is that a real pop group or is that some Jim Johnston concoction from years ago?

Do we know this?

It may be the post-Jim Johnston period.

I don't know.

It sounds AI, but it's before AI.

I don't know what it is, but it was the right movie.

You know, also, Punk, when he came out, his jacket said AJ's husband, I think.

Yes.

so it's all about her it's a return match and that's the thing is that these people are smart they're smart to the business they know what the they're doing

what did i say beforehand i said the people ain't going to want to see aj and becky start

hip toss drop down arm drag wrestling stuff they want to see him fight

And they also milked it from the start because

the people want to see the women fight.

so milk it as long as you can don't let them in together the babyface girl would want the heel girl but the heel don't want any of it

and there's cheap shots and taunting and running and tagging and you build the anticipation

and then seth and punk

can do the

the spots around it and react and have the the match that leads to the brief milking of the interaction

and for a while punk worked on seth and he established the

axe handles off the top rope and everything

and then

they cut fucking

punk off with becky shot the knee in the back and they got some heat on punk and they took their time because they were taking

They were having a smart match that built and was laid out.

Becky would get the cheap shots.

Punk was milking the tag.

He's got to get to, and when you think about it, he's trying to tag this 110-pound girl, but that would save him because they're telling a story.

And Seth kept blocking him.

And then they did a false tag.

A false tag is the terminology where the baby faces actually do tag, but it's behind the referee's back and the referee doesn't see it.

So he turns around and puts AJ out while the heels get their heat from behind.

This is

wrestling 101.

And then

finally,

Seth

went for a dive in the corner, but he missed it.

And Punk went for the tag, but Becky had pulled AJ off the apron.

So they get more heat on Punk.

They're really milking this thing.

And finally,

Seth is...

skipping around like AJ,

trying to mocking her, and he skips right into a go to sleep, but Punk can't cover because he's had the shit kicked out of him.

He goes for the tag.

Becky tried to stop it, but they make the tag.

And now the girls are in, and AJ hits the Thez press and the punches, and they have a fight.

And she kicks the shit out of Becky Lynch.

Her punches in the corner need some work,

but it's been 10 years.

Maybe there's a little rust there.

And they have the

crossbody and the two counts, the big slap fight.

And then AJ turns around and slaps Seth

and DDT's Becky and they double team Becky.

And then now it's kicking up a notch.

Now this is what they built for.

And people came to see this.

Boom, they're giving it to them.

But it's not preposterous.

They're not just kicking out of goddamn

sledgehammer shots to the fucking head.

Punk and AJ both did the Bulldogs.

And then

AJ got her hold.

What is the Black Widow?

And Punk got his sharpshooter.

And then AJ got a black widow on Seth and got a big pop.

And

then Becky suplexed AJ and the heels hit twin pedigrees.

They really, they kept this thing fucking going where it made sense.

There was no

there was a little interaction with the girls and the guys, not the distasteful kind,

but it wasn't like unnatural where everybody was standing around

trying to figure out what they should do because they'd back themselves into a corner.

And at one point,

you know, Punk gave the stomp to Seth.

But then later on,

Becky got a sharpshooter on Punk.

But then Punk rolled through and started to get her.

It wasn't like a domestic dispute, but you're reversing a hold on a woman.

But Seth came in with a pedigree and a stomp, and AJ made a save.

And again, they got in the middle, had a four-way hockey fight, and the baby faces cleared the announce desks off.

And Punk was going for a GTS standing on the desk on Seth, but Becky threw AJ into Punk and they took a hell of a bump on the desk with it all falling and collapsing.

And finally, that left the girls to get back in the ring.

Becky went for the manhandle slam, but AJ spun around her into the black widow thing and Becky tapped.

Which is the only finish they could have done for this match.

I'm not saying she had a tap, but she had a beater.

and the people were going crazy for this

it made sense it told a story the people involved were over the issue was personal and the people understood it

this is wrestling why is it so hard to understand

i yield the floor

It was all right.

You know, again, I haven't been.

It was okay, dog.

I haven't been really into this whole, you know, thing for a variety of reasons, but I thought it was all right.

Compared to what else we're watching now.

Well, I mean, compared to now, I'm comparing it to, you know, ever.

You can't do that no more because ever is a very long time.

What I didn't like was just the stuff of like punk selling for Becky.

I get that it like, you know, equals, you know, what, you know, is going on there or whatever it is.

Well, but it was plausible if she wasn't picking him up in vertical suplexing him.

I don't think it's plausible that she could hold him in a sharpshooter or whatever i don't i i personally don't think that's plausible

so that's my biggest complaint i gotta tell you

you think

she could hold him in a sharpshooter if he was trying to force his way out

with the right technique and having got it and got it good

i'm just wondering if if if as if well if not not like she had it in this match but if you got got it for a shoot, got it good, and leaned back on it, I'm wondering.

I don't think she could.

Natty Neidhart, maybe,

but I don't think Becky Lynch could.

So to me, that suspended this belief a little too much.

AJ, the move

through and reversed it.

The move AJ was doing at least works because it looks like something that, yeah, that could be a bit of a pain in the ass.

And she's small enough that like.

It's hard to reach around and do anything.

Where the fuck is she?

You know what I mean?

Like that at least is plausible, but the Becky Lynch doing stuff.

Get this cat off my back.

Yeah.

Well, anyway.

Where do you think they go from?

I'm sorry, Mr.

Brian Hart, master of the sharpshooter.

See, here's the thing.

If you apply a number of these holes as a shoot and in no way attempt to take care of a son of a bitch that you've got it on, there's some of these holes that once you've got them, even a stronger motherfucker can't get out of.

I don't know just because of the

torque that you could legitimately power out of something like that if somebody was sitting all the way out on it or all the way back on it.

And again, we're talking about a sharp shooter.

I've never been in a shoot, sharp, shoop, a shoop, shoop, hula hoop.

I've never been in a shoot, sharp shooter.

Like, and we're talking a sharpshooter, not an Indian death lock or something.

We're talking a sharpshooter.

Oh, no, you get the Indian death lock, you're fucked.

Yeah, yeah, everyone knows that.

That's why they used to put that on the old folks out on a tree out in the woods to kill them.

What?

That was what Gordon Soley would say.

Have you never heard that story?

I don't know that story.

No.

Oh, God damn.

Folks, the Indian death lock used to be a finish in wrestling, and there is some,

again, element of shoot in it in terms of.

When you get this hold on, if you didn't want it to be broken, the person that let you put it on would then have a hard time kind of getting out of it because you tie your leg up or their legs around your leg with the toe hooked and all this shit but the story in wrestling in the 60s and 70s was that the

the indians would take the the like the older infirm members of their tribe out in the woods and put the indian death lock on them put their legs around a tree in the indian death lock so they would couldn't escape and they'd stay in the forest and die basically.

Because they were, I guess, trying to make these goddamn Indians out to be big heels.

But that was the supposedly the thing.

This hold was so inescapable that you could just take and put the hold on a person around a tree trunk

and they wouldn't be able to get away.

So, how is it, how are they going to be able to get loose when it's your leg in the middle of their legs and you won't let them escape?

Are you just humoring me now?

No, I'm listening to this explanation.

Listening intently.

Yes.

I had to teach Alan Iron Eagle.

Do you remember him, Joe Gomez?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I had to teach him the Indian death lock.

They brought him into WCW.

I was one of Ole's hiring all the cheap guys.

And he was working in Florida.

I guess Joe Gomez, one, would indicate he was Hispanic.

But they changed his name to Alan Iron Eagle and made him an Indian, said use the Indian death lock as a finish.

And nobody in the goddamn locker room except me knew the Indian death lock.

So I had to teach the Indian before he went out to win the match with it how to do the Indian death lock.

I just saw his name somewhere.

It may have been the Observer for some reason.

And it mentioned that he was very close to Ric Flair.

And I was like, oh, I never knew that.

I think he died.

It's why they mentioned him.

Oh.

Arrested him.

Now you feel bad, don't you?

I feel awful.

Now I feel awful.

See,

I led him down the, I started him on the road to ruin because I hurt him with the Indian death lock, and it contributed many years later to his death.

All right.

Well, I guess my point is, I don't think Becky Lynch could get Alan Iron Eagle in the Sharp Shirt either.

That's the point of it.

But that was the main event of the show.

And I guess that's the problem.

He still had more.

There was still more after the match that was the match for the show.

Well, before we get to the match that went on last,

all of a sudden, they get a big wide shot of the arena, and we hear

the Undertaker's gong.

And I'm like, oh, okay, this will be cool.

And then that's all we heard of the Undertaker's gong.

Then it kicked into that rotten American badass music.

And here came

the great value Undertaker, the motorcycle riding version instead of the dead man version,

out on his motorcycle with his do-rag

and he rode to ringside where it just so happened brian completely by random chance stephanie mcmahon and nick kahn were sitting in the front row of ringside totally unaware that this was going to take place

And Undertaker climbed over the rail and took a microphone and sat down next to her and started interviewing her.

And they started trying to,

it wasn't a comedy routine.

Would you term it more?

They were trying to do witty repartee or snappy patter back and forth with each other.

Would that be kind of the description?

In between some awkward, long periods of time where he's just standing in front of her and she's just clapping at him.

Yes.

While he's standing there with the microphone, you're waiting for anything to happen.

It's a little awkward.

It wasn't funny,

and it was not smooth.

And

as they did mention, they've been friends for years and years.

So one would have thought they could have worked something a little bit better out to fill 45 seconds.

But anyway, then

he announces: Are you ready?

The first member of the 2026 WWE Hall of Fame will be none other than Stephanie McMahon.

And she was overcome with the emotion to hear this that she had no idea was coming.

She just happened to be sitting there on the front row like she usually does.

They've never announced it in September before, ever.

It's WrestleMania.

Usually in April, usually in March, we're still trying to guess who the last people are going to be.

They don't call people till Christmas.

When I presented for the Rock and Roll Express, It was Christmas week that any of us knew about it.

But

there is no

business reason why, oh my God, I was completely uninterested in the Hall of Fame next year now.

But holy shit, now that they've announced Stephanie is going to be in it, it's changed my whole outlook.

To announce it six, seven months in advance to that it's Stephanie.

And again, a lot of pony winning going on around here.

What do you know who won the pony?

Was

it?

I guess what I'm saying is they can't really say that it was a big thing like on our WrestlePalooza first ESPN show, we wanted to announce that

Randy Orton or Steve Austin or Mick,

a major name past or present,

Stephanie McMahon.

Yeah, weird timing, unless they're going to change the date of the Hall of Fame, which they may have to do unless they're going to start flying legends to Saudi Arabia in a couple of years.

Oh, I hadn't even thought about that.

I mean,

it's one thing to go to Las Vegas, but do you think any of these guys are going to go to Saudi Arabia to get a fucking ring?

And hopefully be able to take it home, but you never really know.

You never know.

You might have to take the ring and shove it up their ass look there's

there's been a concerted effort if you like stephanie mcmahon or not you can't deny it there's been a concerted effort to babyface her on wwe programming and also give her something to do there was no demand for a stephanie mcmahon podcast they hyped the shit out of it there was no demand for conversations with stephanie she just needed something to do she's been all over the show We've seen, when I say all over the show, just random appearances like Stephanie McMahon's in the crowd or Stephanie McMahon's here, all presented as like a way to let's just give her an applause.

It's like they're floating her here and there.

You're getting used to seeing her.

She's all over the place.

Nobody's got any picket signs.

So

she's one of the good ones.

They're whitewashing members of the McMahon family.

Yeah, and she's about to be the first member of the McMahon family next to Vince Sr.

in the Hall of Fame.

I don't even know if Jess McMahon's in the Hall of Fame.

I would have to check.

I don't think they did.

And he probably shouldn't be if we're talking about wrestling promoters, to be quite honest with you.

But it is the WWE Hall of Fame, not the wrestling hall of fame.

And you said, Stephanie needs something to do.

Why do you need something to do when you got that much fucking money?

Who wants more shit to do?

Maybe she doesn't have hobbies.

Maybe her whole life has been based around her father and mother's business that she never developed any skills.

Maybe she should take a knitting class.

Boy, in that case, then I'd be running off to a fucking South Pacific island where I could hang out next to the coconut trees, buck ass naked all day, and fucking diddle myself.

If I'd have been in that family all these years, just working.

Were they known for taking vacations?

No,

not Vince.

I didn't keep track of Linda's comings and goings, but no, it was famous.

Lince, Lince, Linz, Vince.

That was their name when they teamed up for Tony Khan, Lince.

No, Linda might go somewhere.

I don't fucking know, but Vince was famous.

About 10 days at Christmas when they used to take a break, he would go to his mansion in,

where is it, Fort Lauderdale or that part of Florida, the $12 million place that he spent two weeks a year in, and he'd make phone calls and do paperwork down there.

That was his vacation.

Again, it's an interesting decision doing this here.

I mean, I can't imagine she didn't know something was up.

I know they tried to play it off like it was just a gigantic surprise.

Why was she sitting ringside there

as the Undertaker?

What did they think The Undertaker was going to do?

And Nick Kahn came over quickly to give her a hug because obviously he was in on the whole thing.

He was working security over there, too.

But yeah, there's definitely

a movement to make Stephanie McMahon an asset of the company and protect her and make her happy.

Well, and

for all the things she's done to make all of us happy, it's just a small price.

And to be quite honest, if we're going based on WWE, I'm not saying she's undeserving.

Michelle McCool was undeserving.

Stephanie McMahon, if we're talking about big stars on WWE TV, for good or for bad,

she's deserving of being in their Hall of Fame.

Absolutely.

And I agree with you on the McCool comparison.

And I also agree with you on in the WWE universe.

Yes, she is a level of talent.

I think they I don't think they needed to introduce it or announce it six months ahead of time.

And I think they could have done a better job than

have Undertaker come out there.

And he's,

he's not Phil Donahue.

I mean, you know, it's the Undertaker.

He can't just go and interview random people.

So Stephanie, let me just.

It's the Undertaker.

He's hurting his image when he comes out and acts like a normal person and doesn't have anything interesting to say.

That's, you know, the problem.

And by the way, we just got a question on a drive-through the other day, or yeah, it must have been a drive-thru.

We got a question about is the Undertaker the biggest stooge of all time?

And you said no.

And then the next time we see him, he's giving Vince McMahon's daughter a Hall of Fame induction.

So I swear to God, how the worms have turned.

I said, no, he's not a stooge.

He just stood up for business and what was right, but he didn't go around telling on people and just fucking saying yes, sir.

And now, yeah.

We got a lot of bad feedback on that, which a lot of fucking people now mad at Undertaker.

He's a fucking stooge.

Well, Jim, there was

one more match.

I didn't say that, but there's one more match to Stoog off here on the show, and hopefully our mouths keep working throughout this review.

Well, they put the WWE title match on last between Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre.

And again,

it's the big one.

It's the big belt, the world title.

They should,

as a rule of thumb, put it on last.

It just,

after the mixed tag, this was not a hot enough issue.

And

that's another thing.

Drew McIntyre is a tremendous heel personality.

And he is,

what?

I don't know if it's been a year now or a year and a half since he came back and gotten a thing with punk and unveiled this new outlook that he's had and started cutting these brilliant promos.

Drew McIntyre is one of my favorite fucking guys in the company.

He's awesome.

And Cody, of course, has been

whenever they'd get off from around his neck, he's been a great success.

It just, he,

the old gray mare ain't what he used to be, uh, based on the way they've treated him, but still, he's the star, and everybody likes him.

And both these guys can work, and they're either their wrestling is tight,

you know, nice and snug, a hip lock takeover, Cody's selling is animated, Drew has a heel attitude and body language.

They do a stunt.

Every now and then they'll take a bump over the desk or whatever, but it's not overdone.

Their matches are

logical, professionally put together.

It just wasn't, it was not a hot issue

that people wanted to react to more than the mixed tag team match was.

And that's just because this is not an angle or a program that they've been beating to death on TV here lately.

They needed a title match for the WrestlePalooza.

So they had a good match.

And again, you know, they did their various shit.

There was a spot at Drew McIntyre ripped the turnbuckle pad off.

And then he teased putting Cody into it, but he ended up hitting it.

But

I swear to it, I didn't see that when I was growing up as a wrestling fan because all the turnbuckles in the Tennessee territory were foam rubber with duct tape wrapped around.

You couldn't take the pad off.

Pads cost money.

They used foam rubber and duct tape.

But goddamn, there's an epidemic of it, isn't there?

How many turnbuckle pads have we seen taken off in the last day?

They're now calling it the George Steele position.

Anywho,

finally, they ended up on the floor after a number of false finishes and two counts and things of that nature.

And Drew was going to kick Cody through the front of the desk like he did

sometime back, but the referee got in his way and delayed him.

And Drew said, fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway.

But by the time he did, he missed Cody.

put his foot through the fucking front of the desk and hurt his leg.

And then even though he was able to get back in the ring, he went for the kick, but his leg gave out.

And Cody went up top for the big super Cody cutter and then hit the crossroads one, two, three.

Without stabbing him in the head with a screwdriver or a pair of scissors, or without a ball peen hammer, without setting him on fire, without a super tombstone pile driver off the top rope through a thumbtack covered table onto the concrete floor.

He hit him with a couple of wrestling finishes and beat him.

So

it's kind of dry

after the previous match, which was the one the fans were really into, and that went a while too.

Yeah.

This felt kind of dry and I almost thought they may do a title change just because

otherwise it kind of felt like the match was going nowhere in a sense.

Well, David, it would have been crazy to switch the belt on this match because

it wasn't the time.

It

wasn't ready, wasn't built, wasn't meant to be.

But they did everything fine.

But as you said, and as I said, the mixtag took the oxygen out.

But when you compare this

three-hour and 15-minute show with stars, with a tremendous production,

with easily defined roles that everybody's got, and with an issue for almost everything

that people could could understand,

this is why

they're there, and

the AEW show is why they're there

because they can't get out of the fucking

rec center in Rosita or wherever they all used to do their own pro wrestling orangutan shows and just let everybody have as much fun as they wanted to have.

I'm not talking about the fans, I'm talking about the

participants,

and they don't know how to put a major league production together, or they refuse to try to learn.

So, this is where we're at.

We're being raked over the coals for thousands of dollars per ticket by this evil, goddamn multi-billion dollar conglomeration that's setting the world on fire.

And the only hope

for poor old downtrodden pro wrestling is an ADD-adled billionaire billionaire with

very specific mental concerns that thinks about wrestling in the smallest and most outlaw of terms and has no eye for talent.

Pick your poison, Brian.

Well, speaking of poison, that was WWE WrestlePalooza.

And Jim, with that,

the drive-through has closed.

Where's the

with that?

You can can poison Antonio Inoki so he doesn't have to say that anymore.

Hanoki, not Kanoki.

Come on.

There has to be like a way to get it.

I mean, why would there be like a hidden third one that only plays one every a hundred times?

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