2023 RECAP CELEB RELATIONSHIP CHAOS

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Okay, so for our Thanksgiving week, I wanted to do a very light, silly, fun episode.

And I brought one of my favorite expert guests ever.

She's been on Caronde Luz a bunch of times.

I just love her energy and her no-nonsense advice, Nicole Moore.

She's a love coach.

She's a relationship expert.

She has a really fun TV show called Reality of Love.

And we talked about all the celebrity scandals, the chaos that happened in 2023, and some not-so-nice dating trends.

So I really hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

It's perfect if you're traveling, if you're stuck in airports,

rush hour, all the chaos of Thanksgiving travel, or just chilling with your family after the turkey.

I really hope you guys enjoyed and send me your opinions.

What did you guys think about all the celebrity chaos?

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Okay, so today

to talk, let's have some fun.

I want to talk about all the crazy, crazy, chaotic crap that happened in the world of dating and relationships this year.

And I brought my favorite, favorite, favorite expert, Nicole Moore.

Hi, Nicole.

Hi,

I missed you.

I know.

I know, I know.

What a crazy year.

We'll see how the lecture goes.

I know, it's so crazy.

I know for those of you guys that don't know Nicole, she is the TV host of Reality of Love Show.

She's a celebrity love advisor.

She's a relationship expert.

And I love you because you're like no BS.

Your advice is always like right on point.

So

are you ready to rock and roll?

Because I have 10 million things I want to talk about.

Yes, let's go.

Let's do this fast and furious.

And by the way, guys, I I want to say thank you, Nicole, because you told me we are all crazy busy this week because of the holidays and you're under the weather, so you're being a sweetheart.

Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

Okay, let's go.

Let's start, I think, with one of the most talked about that happened this year.

To me, it was mind-blowing.

Scandalval.

Did you follow the scandal of all?

Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

It felt like it took over for like two months.

Okay, do you think now that the dust settled, everybody's a little more calm, do you think the backlash on Tom was like just too much?

Or did he deserve it?

I mean, I do think he kind of deserved it.

Listen, there was a lot of deception going on.

I think, you know what I think?

I think in the collective, especially women have just dealt with so many shady men that I feel like he was taking it for every woman

who's dealt with none and everything.

And so, listen, what he did was egregious, especially considering like it's going to be on TV.

I mean,

it was dumb if he was trying to hide it.

But you know, did the punishment fit the crime?

Not every single ounce of hate, but I do think he deserved to know that what he did was ultimately wrong.

Yeah.

Which is not how you treat somebody you've been in a relationship with for such a long time.

I think it should have been honest.

It's okay if you don't want to be with Ariana anymore, but be a freaking man and be honest.

Love it.

Be a freaking man and be honest, especially because they were living together.

To me, what broke my heart when that happened.

Of course, I think cheating is lame, but in any way, shape, or form.

But I mean, come on, they were living under the same roof and with one of her best friends.

So, let's talk about Raquel Rachel, whatever her name is.

How about the backlash?

I mean, you don't do that to your best friend.

What the fuck?

Like, I was really mad at her.

Yeah, I mean, I think she tried to play innocent.

Oh, I didn't know.

I mean, you know, clearly she needed attention.

But, so, the thing is, is that I would have respected Raquel so much more if from the back she just admitted the reason I did this was because I was insecure, right?

Like

this is just her own insecurity trying to get something that somebody else has.

So I feel like she tried to be like, I'm getting treatment for my mental health.

Not that people shouldn't get treatment for their mental health, but I would have respected her so much more.

She was just like, what I did is wrong.

I'm sorry.

I'm insecure.

I feel like everybody could have understood that.

And I think if you're involved in that big of a scandal, just admit it.

Like, just take the blame on yourself.

The second any of them try to put the blame anywhere else but themselves, that's what's causing the audience, uh, you know, to hate them.

I don't know because I'm gonna tell you, I think, I mean, dating is hard enough, right?

Relationships are hard enough, but when you cannot trust one of your best friends, like I cannot imagine, like, a woman doing that to another woman, so I don't really give a fuck.

I don't even remember her crazy explanations, what they were.

Oh, I couldn't control myself, no, no, no, but as a woman, I cannot imagine like looking at my friend's face and knowing that I'm like fucking her boyfriend behind her back.

I don't know.

I could never sleep with myself.

There's nothing in the world that would make me do that to one of my friends.

And to me, that was like,

I'm not excusing his behavior, but I honestly, I was really, really shocked at her behavior towards Ariana because they were such close friends.

Yeah, and then they tried to play, she also tried to play it off that they weren't that close friends, which I also thought was part of the shading.

Listen, like, a lot of my clients, though, they have expressed this fear to me.

Like, there's some weird thing where, like, a lot of women fear that some woman's going to come out of the woodwork, and they feared people around them, so it's not uncommon.

But I think the thing is that if you're around people and you know, at the end of the day, they're going to choose what they want over me, like, they're going to just go for anything over thinking about me.

Like, that's the issue.

Like, she sat there and just, and now, look, she's not even with town, right?

She sat there and went after some momentary feeling of I'm good enough, I'm important, I'm special, without caring about her best friend's feelings.

And that's the thing that's like so dangerous and psychotic almost.

It really is.

I agree.

I agree.

Whatever happened to loyalty.

Last question about the scandal before I move on because there's so much.

A lot of people send me this question and I saw on social media, la la la la.

Do you think a guy like Tom, because now lately he's like, oh, I fucked up.

I would have done everything differently, blah, blah, blah.

Do you think a guy like that changes

or like the next girl is gonna be the next victim?

I don't know if he's gonna do exactly the same thing, but I don't think it is part of his personality.

I don't think it's how I think he's not going to change.

He's exhibited behavior throughout seasons, even before this, of being very into himself.

And I just don't think that he's going to change, as evidenced also by the fact that when the scandal first came out, he wasn't taking accountability.

He's blaming and saying it's partly Ariana's fault.

So if he hasn't accepted responsibility for everything, then of course he's not going to change.

Oh my god, I completely agree with you.

I think he's a douche.

Let's talk really quickly about this really high-profile one because I was surprised, and I think a lot of people are surprised.

I don't know if you watch Yellowstone, but Kevin Costner married for a long time.

We never hear he's one of those celebrities that makes millions of dollars, and we never even hear about them.

He gets divorced from the wife, Christine.

I forgot her last name now.

And they're like this big fight.

They have tons of of money.

They lived in a 145, 145 million dollar mansion here in California.

And

she was fighting the print up.

She didn't want to leave the house.

A lot of dirt thrown in public, considering they were very, very low-profile celebrities.

So, my question to you is: I mean, have you followed that at all?

And I was really surprised because usually these print-ups are specifically to avoid these types of scandals with high-profile celebrities, right?

Such as Kevin Costner.

What do you make of this, Nicole?

You know, it's funny because I read that she was trying to get $145,000 a month, and I was like, oh, that seems like a high amount.

But then I just heard that one of the housewives, Sutton Strapp, gets $300,000 a month.

So I was like, maybe she wasn't asking for that much.

You know, I think it's interesting because when people are with an actor for a long time, they feel like I was part of it.

Like, you know, but I think Kevin Costner would have been successful whether or not he was married to his wife.

So the issue is always, did I contribute to your career in a way that warrants me then having a lot of this money?

Maybe not.

You could argue, well, if she took care of the kids, but I think in that case, I think she was asking for probably more than was actually warranted towards her, which is why he was fighting back.

You know what I mean?

So it's interesting because it also shows you never really know what's going on in somebody's right.

I know, because

hear, we never heard of them, right?

Forever and ever and ever.

He's one of the most successful TV shows in the world, and like he works and goes home, and we had no idea what's going on.

Now, this is my personal opinion, as controversial as it is.

Tell me if you agree.

Most wealthy people marry

civilians, so to speak, like Christine, and they do a print-up.

I was married to the print-up, and I was completely fine with it.

I think it's fair.

I don't think it's fair to contest a print-up.

I think that's super shady.

Do you agree?

No, you agree.

Do you agree to the terms?

That's when you agree.

So you should obviously follow it, you know?

Like, it did seem like, I mean, listen, if you were used to a certain lifestyle, like, I can't imagine that, right?

Like, you don't want to give it up.

But also, it was largely coming from his career.

And so, I also see his perspective where it's like, he's gone for the roles.

He's done this.

He landed on that Yellowstone roll.

So, I can see why he feels like he doesn't want to give up more.

I wonder what happened.

I know, me too.

We got to stay tuned on this one.

Last I heard this, she finally moved out of the house, kicking and screaming and complaining.

But I think, like, you talk about millions and millions of dollars.

I can't even believe they're, you know, arguing at this point, but it looks awful.

Another really high-profile divorce that's been going on for seven years, and I actually just remembered about it as I was prepping the episode because I was in Las Vegas this weekend for Formula One Las Vegas, and he was there, and I saw him right in front of me, super nice guy, Brad Pitt,

and Angelina Jolie, seven years trying to get divorced is still fighting because of the chateau in in france the wine chateau miraval a bunch of kids in the middle total chaos right nicole yeah but you know what

apparently is not so nice of a guy so apparently not right

love him like anybody that's probably 50 and under everybody like you know when you when you saw him in fight club and some people saw him in other you know you it's hard not to love brad pitt because he was just so attracted to him and so like we seem like he still is by the way nicole still is he's hot as hell

but then it just came out yesterday that his son i think it's pax

wrote this whole diatribe about him on social media which they cut from social media but now it was released where he says that his father is a world-class a-hole and he's making the lives of his children miserable so i was reading that and i was like wait what's really going on with brad pitt because it it's a child, would not be saying that unless there was some truth to that, don't you think?

So, yes, I don't know.

I mean, listen, their relationship started because of cheating again.

We have another example where it's like it was not, there was some shadiness from the get-go.

I think that Angeliana's fighting probably for her children.

There's also probably some revenge there in that, like, she's gonna stick it to him.

And I think Brad has this good guy image, and everybody loves him, but he's

there's something dark happening underneath.

That we don't know the details, right?

Personally, when I see like a seven-year divorce like dragging on and on and on, I totally cringe.

And like I said, he's nice, but like, yeah, in a public setting, like nice, pleasant.

But I agree with you.

He's in his 50s.

I think he's 59,

almost 60, going through this nasty divorce.

And like you said, his marriage started on the wrong foot to begin with because he cheated on

Jen Anniston.

So I don't know if we call it karma.

I don't know what we call it, but

I would not date.

I don't know.

I forgot the name of the girl that is dating him, but I would not date him just from the history of what's going on.

No, no, no, no, no.

He's too, he's like, that's, that's the thing you have to really worry about.

Is somebody where they're charming and they're sweet and everybody seems to love them because they do good in social situations and then they're like an asshole behind the scenes.

That's really, watch out for that because nobody's going to believe you, right?

And then did you notice that when they were starting to get a divorce there was all these articles in the press about Angelina's like trying to cheat him or steal him and and I'm like who's leaking those stories like I think it's Brad Pitt's camp trying to paint Angelina as some devil woman which I don't know what's going on with her but I think she probably is trying to protect her children I know if he really is you know somewhat of a threat in this case like

there's a lot of stuff going on

I know

in this case it's a little heartbreak because when there's a bunch of kids involved it hurts, right?

Like, we hope we would hope that they figure stuff out, like, fast.

And he adopted all the, he adopted her kids too, so they're all

it was a beautiful story for a long time, it looked like.

Like, they have this big family, and it's always sad when those stories.

I mean, I feel like this year in particular, there were so many breakups, you know?

Like, if Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds go, and then there's a couple of other couples where it's like, if you guys go, no one's going to believe you're going to love against us.

I know.

Some people have to stay.

I know.

Oh my god.

Yeah, I'm trying to go through as many as I possibly can.

This one, of course, right now, the biggest star on the planet.

I don't know what the hell is with this guy.

I like her, but it's insane, like her success.

So I have this question that I think a lot of people have.

Taylor Swift,

serial dater.

She talks about, she writes songs about her failed romantic relationships.

One of my guests joked that I'm the Taylor Swift of the podcast because I do episodes of how my failed

relationship.

But she seems to move on, like snap, snap, very quickly, like from zero to like all over the guy and very public, very fast.

Is that a recipe for disaster?

Or could this this time really be true love?

I don't think so.

I don't think it's gonna be love this time.

And also, like, just the sheer fact that there's so many media stories about them, I'm like, you want us to know about this so you're forcing it down our throat which makes me already suspicious a lot of celebrities move on quickly though like they're so it's this thing like i think that a lot of celebrities especially they cannot be alone they just can't and so she's always moved i mean she had a what six year relationship or something and there was almost no time like if you really were invested in that long of a relationship you need some time to heal like that was to my understanding the one where she thought they were going to get married, and he never, he never proposed.

It was so, like, if you're a normal person, wouldn't you feel like, let me heal from that?

So, if you're not healed if you're jumping into a relationship, that is a big red flag.

So, I don't know.

Like, I'm not saying they won't get married.

I just don't know if it's going to be real if they do.

And I don't think she's going to be have healed through it.

I don't know anything about him.

So, I don't know where his level of relationship readiness is.

But I did see a clip where they asked him if he was in love and he laughed and he didn't say yes.

Because it's so sooner.

This is the thing, even if you do move on quickly, I agree, some people, especially celebrities, do that.

The part that worries me as an outsider is how public they made it quickly.

One thing is moving on, but maybe this is what I would do.

I would be like, okay, let me keep this under reps.

Let me make sure, you know, that this works.

And no, she just put it out there.

She changed the lyric of her songs for him.

She's like like with his mom I just felt like you know you try to create this bond and I mean you're the relationship expert but I just learned from you like usually it takes time to to actually create a bond right with a person yeah and like I'm not saying this is every football player but The majority football players are not exactly known in the first place for being good partners.

I mean, Brittany, Patrick Mahomes and Brittany Mahomes, which are close with him, there's, I mean, there's a lot of blind items about what's going on in their relationship.

So, again, I think who a guy is friends with influences can influence to a large degree how he is in the relationship.

Right now, we're just seeing the beautiful couple and the handsome football player.

But let's not forget, the handsome football player is in an environment that is very conducive to cheating and men not being very good to their girlfriends or wives.

So, is it he's going to change because it's Taylor Swift, or is he really this magical rare unicorn in the field of like NFL players?

I think like most of the world, we're hoping for her happiness, right?

But honestly, when I see it, I kind of see like a train wreck.

Like way, I almost want to tell them, slow down.

Like, you know, enjoy the romance.

Be a little private, you know, take your time.

Yeah, she has to vet him.

Like, she really has to make sure this is somebody good because she has dated a lot of asshole guys.

Yeah.

So, like, she's got to vet him a little bit more.

Like you can be excited about him, but she's got to slow down.

Yeah, I agree.

Taylor, if you're listening to us, listen to Nicole.

Slow down, slow down, slow down.

This one is another question that a bunch of people asked me to talk to you about.

It's been a few months, but obviously they're also some of the most high-profile celebs in the world.

Chloe Kardashian and her baby daddy, another basketball player.

How many of these basketball players have a bunch of kids with a bunch of women, right?

I don't, I hope I memorized the story, but they were dating, they were never married, right?

And she had a baby with him.

And then, well, I don't know if it was before or after she had a baby, he went and had an affair and had a baby with someone else.

Is that something like that, right?

Yeah, yeah, no, lots of cheating along along the way.

And the latest is now on the new episodes of the Kardashians, he's doing his apology tour.

He's apologizing to everyone.

But I just know, like, here's the thing, okay, with Tristan it's like people need to understand if somebody's like acts like they're good with you but then when they're with other people they're not great like that it's not like they're just magically gonna a good person for you and my issue with Tristan is that according to the media he's not really seeing his other kids right or maybe not even paying child support so he that's also who he is I feel like they just like selectively blind all of them most of the Kardashian women do this it's like they just see what they want to see in the guys and they just ignore like all of this other stuff.

And it's like, if he really is so apologetic, like he's doing on the karachin episodes, oh, I, you know, I cheated because of this or because of that, like, why is he not also making amends in the other relationships in his life?

I feel like that would do more to prove he's changed than his words.

Because when I watch him saying, The reason I cheated is because I was, I, you know, I just felt disgusted, or I never saw my mom in a good relationship, or whatever.

It's like I hear him saying the words, I don't feel that he has

changed, you know.

I feel like it's all lip service, and so I think that Chloe is going to ultimately get back with him because she loves him and she wants to have that happy family dynamic.

I just, I don't know what is it going to take for that man to actually change because I don't know if he has.

That's a good question.

Same, I was watching the latest episode because I wanted to be able to talk about it.

And he says, I'm going to therapy, la la la la la.

And she's just listening, listening, listening.

But obviously, she has two kids with him now, right?

And she's a single mom.

I'm sure that's not what she wanted.

And he's apologizing and apologizing and apologizing.

But he's very young, right?

He's younger than her.

He's in his 20s.

Is it possible that going through?

First of all, I think for me,

another guy that he cheated with

her sister's girlfriend, like, what the fuck, you know, are these people thinking?

Because I agree with you.

I want my man man to be loyal to me, but even more loyal when I'm not in the room.

Exactly.

Right?

Exactly.

I want to know that he has my back.

So what the fuck?

But now he's saying, oh, I'm doing therapy and I have trauma, child.

Do you think maturity and as the years go by, it is possible that he's going to say, okay, I really love you.

I'm not going to do it again.

Or do you think it's like more like, you know, dream on?

I mean, I think it's going to take a long time.

I mean, people can say they're in therapy, but are they really changing?

So I just did a video on this actually that I'm going gonna release on tic tac but what i was saying there was okay the issue is here is the energy dynamic between them okay so when it first happened i'm sure chloe's looking up to him oh my god he's so amazing and then he cheats on her then he hurts her right then he's down here he's the dog and she's this angel that's forgiving him right and so but that problem with that dynamic is he's cheating because he's disgusted with himself.

He said that himself, right?

So she's this angel who's just forgiving him and, you know, so nice to him.

And it's actually worse.

Like, I really wish Chloe Kardashian would have like eat his car like dumb because you have to get the energy out and I think the fact that she's just I'm so forgiving of him I'm so forgiving of him it's not actually gonna work in her favor because there's been no retribution for what he's done there's been no real

justice for what he's done so he's forgiving he's saying you know I'm gonna I'm gonna do better but like you know women like we have to get back sometimes i agree yeah human nature and so she's I think she's actually in a weird way doing herself a disservice.

Because I'm not saying she has to do something horrible to him, but he hasn't paid enough for his mistakes.

That's the issue.

He hasn't suffered enough, he hasn't paid enough for his mistakes, and so she's always going to be this angel that's forgiving him, but he's never really paid.

And I think that's going to ultimately mess up with their energy dynamic at the end of the day.

So, I don't know what has to happen, but he has to pay.

And I don't know if there's any price other than her leaving him.

and you know i have to say another thing that really bothered me about the story is that the entire family was still being super nice to him except for courtney courtney was the only one that said you know you're an asshole i don't have but there was an episode a little while ago i don't know the mother chris got him a job like called abc and got him a job she's treating him like if my mom like if this guy cheats on me behind my back gets another another girl pregnant no no no if my mom was i would tell my mom you know you you're supposed to stay because i think the mother should be like standing by i know they're very nice they're very sweet they're very powerful but i actually think like they're patting him on the head like oh baby come here and i i honestly i was kind of surprised because I wish my mom would have said, hey, fuck you, you're a grown man.

You made millions of dollars as a basketball player.

Go fuck yourself.

Go get help.

Whatever you got.

I'm I'm not gonna help.

I was really surprised how everybody is patting this dude on the head.

Maybe that's not helping him grow.

Do you think I'm being too hard?

I don't think so.

I think it's doing the opposite.

I think they're like trying to be loving and forgiving, and he's not paying enough.

Like, I'm telling you, and that what's gonna happen is he's gonna feel guilty because he hasn't paid enough.

And then, what's gonna happen?

He's gonna act out in some way.

Like, this is a man who doesn't know how to process his feelings, and so he's acting out.

So, like, this is why I'm saying he needs to pay somehow, some some way i know it's like i'm a love coach so you're probably like why are you telling me this but it's just energy dynamics reparations have to be made justice has to be served that's when people can actually move on if it hasn't it's a weird energy dynamic and he's gonna feel guilty like wouldn't you feel guilty if you did all this stuff to people and they're just being nice to you you would actually feel like i'm not worthy i'm and that's exactly what's causing the issue in the first place.

And I don't know if they're doing this on the season because they've already taken him.

She's already back with him, so they're trying to like paint the narrative of like he's a good guy.

Or they do the Kardashians tend to be too overly forgiving in general.

I mean, uh, the people that of the man, yeah, of the men, right?

They do all kinds of shit and they're like still around.

I'm not sure if that's the best.

And I mean, proof is that, like, all the daughters have troubled relationships, all of them.

And I mean, I'm not a psychologist, I'm not an expert, but maybe that says a lot with the the, because no matter what the men in their lives do, they are always there.

They, like you said, they're being forgiven, they're being petted on that.

They're basically being treated like kids, like babies.

And that really bothers me a little bit.

Yeah, it's only like I loved when Courtney was like, I don't think you deserve Chloe.

It's the first person actually

saying that out loud.

Yeah, there's a weird dynamic in their family where they confuse loyalty with just letting people kind of like do all these things to you.

Yeah, I think they need to learn stronger boundaries.

Like, you could love someone and you can love them in your life, but yeah,

not doing them any favors.

I totally agree.

Oh my god, there's so much more we got to cover.

One more before we take a two-minute break.

This one has nothing to do with cheating, but I see trouble in paradise.

Tell me if you agree with me or not.

J-Lo and Ben.

I have seen them around.

Actually, this weekend I also saw them in Las Vegas because they were there for a gala benefit.

He always looks miserable around.

And then the minute they're in front of the photographers, he makes this face, like, you know, like almost

she pinches him or something and he makes this face.

And then she's always whispering on him and, you know, poking him.

I feel so bad for the guy.

And this weekend in Las Vegas, like we saw them walking by the photographers, and we saw this, he was like, you know, he makes this face, like, stop it, right?

Like, almost like a trained pony.

and i just think he's so uncomfortable do you see that as well or do you think he's enjoying every minute of it because i interviewed he hates it yeah i agree i just saw something that he said like there's no benefit to fame for him like this is not a person who and and jlo loves the fame yeah it's like I mean, it's just a classic case of like personality types, right?

Like, he doesn't want to be in front of the cameras.

He doesn't want the fame.

I'm sure he loves the money and getting to do like the projects that he likes, but he doesn't want the cameras on him.

And J-Lo loves the cameras on her.

And so I think a lot of his misery is with the paparazzi and like that in general.

What's interesting to me is that he doesn't come, he has to, this is his life.

And the fact that he's just in misery and he hasn't found a way to change it is a little bit troubling because it makes me think he doesn't know how to change it, you know, and he has had a lot of addictive behaviors and different things in the past.

And it makes me wonder how much he's changed.

Because, like, listen, this is his life, right?

Like, the cameras are not going away.

So, to be in such misery because of them, like, dude, you gotta figure out a way.

You gotta figure out a way to change it.

Like, he has to have a different relationship.

And so, J-Lo is the one trying to prod him.

And that's the issue with J-Lo.

She's, she tries to make these guys into what she wants so that she can have the happy little relationship that she wants.

And she picks people who can't do it.

Like,

no, you nailed it i think ideally obviously a couple can can be two different people right but you compromise so like when i see them around town or when i see them on the red carpet it makes me want to say like well let him stay home because i'm sure in a lot of these occasions he would want to be home and something between them she's saying no you're gonna go with me

and at least that's my feeling maybe i'm completely wrong of course just as an outsider but i think in order for a marriage like that to work if one person loves the limelight and the other one doesn't, eventually she's gonna let

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Yeah, or like, listen, they need to come to some sort of agreement.

Like, also, like, if it's something for J-Lo and it's her thing, I do think he needs to get it the fuck together and show up for her.

Like, if he can't get over his little misery, like, to be there for her, I think that's like a bigger problem.

Or he has to stay home, but he can't go because the problem is also the press.

And, like, he's not protecting.

He's not protecting J-Lo, right?

So, like, his behavior is making the press say it's J-Lo making him miserable.

And, like, nobody wants that.

Like, no woman wants press that she's the reason her man is miserable So like he I don't see him I've said this in the video that I just made I don't see him protecting her I also see him like we never see stories about Ben's doing all this for JLo like where is the care and the love for JLo like it seemed like in the beginning of the relationship he was a little bit more into it but I literally never see him like why do we never see any stories about him doing stuff for her like where's the care and the love so I feel like she's just trying to prod him to be this image and he doesn't want to do it and he doesn't know how to do it.

And then the media is going crazy with like, Ben's so uh, he with his ex, Jennifer Garner, like they're trying to portray that they're so chummy and together.

And it's just like J-Lo's not protected by his behavior.

And he doesn't seem to have an issue with that because he's not changing it.

And that's an issue for me, you know?

I don't like saying that, but I definitely see trouble in paradise.

I don't see this marriage like lasting if he continues being miserable like that.

I don't think it looks good.

No, I just it was like, you know, good story in the beginning.

Second chance at love.

If the guy hasn't changed, then you know.

Oh my god.

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And when we come back, Nicole, hold that thought.

One of those marriages that I think when it collapsed, everybody here in Beverly Hoos is like, what the fuck, if they cannot stay together forever, what's gonna happen to us?

Kyle and Mauricio.

Kyle Richardson, I really want your opinion on that one.

And then then I want to talk a little bit about some of the craziest dating trends that I saw this year and that people have been sending me questions.

Maybe you can help us figure stuff out.

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We're talking about the crazy, crazy world of dating and a celebrity world.

I don't think it's any easier than our world, right, Nicole?

No, it's harder.

It's harder.

Apparently, it's the same shit shit show.

Money does not get you out of trouble when it comes to dating.

Now, Kyle Richards and Mauricio.

Most people watch the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

For us here in Beverly Hills, we know of Mauricio because he has one of the biggest

real estate brokerages now in the world.

The agency, they seem like the most fabulous power couple.

They go from regs to riches, making millions.

She's so beautiful.

He's crazy handsome.

All of a sudden, one day, like, what the hell?

They're getting separated.

She's maybe dating a woman or maybe not.

What's going on, Nicole?

What do you make of it?

That was sad.

That was sad to me.

That was one of the couples that I was like, oh, yeah.

So this is what I think because now

we're getting more, right, in the season.

And she's just, basically, I think that

they're...

They're going separate ways in the sense that he wants to do all his sales and everything.

He's like thriving in his career.

He's in the prime of his career.

And she's, I mean, at the end of the day, these women, they all look fabulous, but they're mostly in their 50s, going to 60s, right?

Like, listen, they look great.

I hope I look as good as they do, but like your priorities change a little bit.

She's already had all these kids, right?

She's like, I want to read.

And he has to go out and do all these things.

So I think she doesn't want to do it anymore.

But I think that she stopped feeling like he cared, right?

And I think the same thing happened with Doreen and PK, right?

Because she said, I went through the trauma of the home invasion and he wasn't there for me.

Men need to understand, if a woman feels like you really love her and care for her, she'll be right or die, pretty much, right?

Like,

women will do a lot for a man when they feel like he loves me, he cares about me.

When they start to feel like he doesn't care about me, I think that's when they start to go, F this.

And I think that's what happened because Kyle Seenberry ride or die for Mo, right?

But I think when she started to feel like he wasn't there for her, she started to go, do I want to be here?

Do I want to do these things, right?

Because there wasn't enough juice for her to just be devoted to what he wants to do.

And she doesn't.

She wants to do different things.

She kind of implied, I think, in one episode that basically the company became his second mistress because he was spending so much time growing this company.

But it is the dream of most women that you have an ambitious, successful husband providing.

Na na na na.

Isn't there a way to fix it i mean

or not like you think when the guy is too much into work he cannot give is there a way to balance and give attention to your multi-million dollar business and still like appreciate your wife and not want to lose your wife there is but i don't think he wants to do it

i think he I think that, okay, so you have to remember, Kyle comes from a very rich family.

Kathy Hilton and her husband are like the blueprint, right?

Like they have the most money.

I think that Mo was working for Kathy Hilton's huts.

So I think there's probably always been something in him where he wanted to prove he can do it on his own.

Like he got help, right?

He got help.

He already was under the Hilton umbrella.

And I think he has this need to prove he can do it on his own.

And I think that that need is going to supersede.

like everything you know i think as a man he needs to prove something to himself and he doesn't want to give the time and care to kyle which is why I think Kyle's finally like, you know, this, I can get a tattoo, I can do what I want.

Like, I'm not, um, I don't care.

So, I do think it's also weird because usually when the guys are in that stage, it's like when they're younger, you know, and when you're younger, he's in his like building phase right now, even though he's older.

Usually, when a man is in his building phase and he's telling you work is first, there's nothing you can do.

You just have to accept what you can get and say, say, is what I can get from him worth it?

Like, is there an end goal?

Because they're not going to change.

They're not going to change their priority for you.

Yeah, that's super sad.

There was already all this love.

Kyle, I mean, you built up all this love for him.

So that's why it's weird that he's in this building stage now.

You know, if they were not in couple, I would say, you know, if you trust him, that he's building it to a point.

But

she doesn't want to go 5'10.

And what do you make of this trend?

I'm gonna say trend cautiously because I don't know another word to use.

But a lot of women this year that got divorced or separated from her boyfriends or whatever, they go and start a relationship with a woman.

Not that there's anything wrong about that.

Before I get back, Lash, I think people should love whoever makes them happy.

But it's a trend that you see a lot of these girls, these women, instead of like, you know, breaking up and going to another guy, they end up being in a relationship with another woman.

There is Kyle, there is a,

what was the name of the show?

Selling Sunset, Chris.

Now she's happily married to the Australian rocker that I forgot her name.

I know I'm horrible at names.

Yeah, Gi-Leff.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know, everything.

Is that is there any kind of like explanation, psychological reason they are sick of men.

They're like, I'm going to try something else, or it's just a coincidence.

I don't think it's a coincidence.

I think think it's that they are finding women that are going to give them everything they want, right?

And maybe they also realize sexually, I don't, I, you know, I don't know.

Like, I would love to have this conversation with Chriselle and G.

Fled.

Like, please, I don't, I haven't been in a sexual relationship like that with a woman.

I'm like, tell me, like, what's happening?

Like, how is it different?

I would love to have that conversation because I think that women are at a point where they're like, no, I don't have to compromise.

I don't have to settle.

I can get everything I want.

And if this man isn't giving it to me, there's a woman here who's going to give it to to me because Chris like left her relationship with Jason because he wouldn't have a kid with her yeah G Flip very excited to adopt with her right like that's what she said and so if G Flip is giving Chris everything she wants and needs is giving her all of the love and she's sexually satisfied why not be with the woman who's giving you that then you need to try and get it from some man who isn't so i think that's what it is women are like i'm tired of not having what i want so who can give it to me and if it's a woman that they have a great connection with, then they're like, oh, okay, you know, why not?

It's very interesting to me because obviously it's a huge change, especially when you're older.

Like, Kyle is in her 50s.

Like, I would think, and again, like I said,

I have zero against.

I have so many gay friends.

I have so many lesbian friends.

I don't care who people sleep with, but it's a big change from being married to a man for like 30, 40 years to saying, you know what?

Now I'm going to go and date this.

I think Kyle is dating a country singer or something like that, right?

Allegedly, right?

Allegedly, but they're all over the world.

Like, they go to Paris, they go here, they go there.

Yeah, it's allegedly, but that's what it looks like.

Like, even if she's providing something for her, like, it's not like just a normal relationship.

I don't know if it's a sexual relationship, but it's a relationship with Kyle and Morgan Waite.

Like,

she's filling some void.

Yeah.

She really is.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I feel bad.

I don't even know what to say about that.

I was hoping that they get back together.

Because every time somebody asked Maurice, he was like, No, we're still living in the same house.

That's weird, too, because they're still living in the same house.

Like,

I don't even understand.

Like, you want to break up, but you're living in the same house, and the kids are there.

If I break up with someone, I don't want to be in the same place with them.

I don't want to see them every day.

So, I'm still hoping.

Do you think there is room for a reconciliation or not?

I don't know.

I mean, I think that was like one of the couples, right, that everybody liked together.

So, but then he also then, he's been seen recently with his Dancing with the Stars partner.

So, and that Kyle said on air that that hurt her.

So, it's like if he's not giving her what she wants and he's also doing things that hurt her, that's just going to push her more and more and more away.

I don't think that's what they wanted it, clearly, but hopefully, they can reconcile.

But listen, again, like maybe this is what should happen, ladies, is all the women who are gay women, who like if they keep showing off, it's like feed the men because then, you know, the the men are going to have to step up.

It's like, oh, you go.

I don't know.

I mean, I'm happy for them.

I am so happy for them.

I can only speak for myself.

I've dated so many crappy men, and I still would only date men because I love girls, but I could never date a girl.

Like, I have zero attraction.

And, like, Michelle had said she kissed.

She would like make out with girls and before.

So I do think there's something to the sexual preference.

But listen, if the gay women are just showing up and showing out, I'm like, go for it, go for it, yeah, get the

like oh my god, yeah, 1 million percent.

Listen, whatever makes you happy, whatever fills your bold, right?

Good for you.

Oh my god, let's talk really quickly about some before I let you go, because I know you're pressed for time, and uh, we're almost in an hour, but anyways, a few trends that I saw this year, and I got the most messages from my listeners all over the world.

Maybe you can help us.

And I don't even know if you heard of that.

The first one, I was interviewed by a podcast last week, and the theme was, and I don't know why it became such a big hot topic this year.

How long should you wait to have sex with a new partner?

I even think you and I talked about it, maybe a year, two years ago.

Yeah, exactly.

And now, all of a sudden, it comes back to everybody talking about it.

Does it matter, Nicole?

Does it because some people say, yeah, no, no, wait, don't wait.

If you don't wait, the guy's not going to respect you.

If you you wait too much, he's gonna fuck somebody else.

It's such chaos.

What is your opinion?

Well, I don't know why.

Yeah, why is this coming back up again?

Because we don't stop acting like men are these animals unless like we do some trick.

Like, it's just like it's bizarre.

Like,

it's not like you can magically pick a perfect date and then all of a sudden his respect switch is gonna get turned on.

Like, does he have a respect switch to begin with?

That's what you should be looking for.

Like, I just, I really don't agree with all this stuff that somehow puts it on the woman that, like, she has to do some magical, perfect thing.

And then, oh my God, he's going to like commit to you, right?

Like, I think women need to be empowered to do whatever the hell they want and find the person that is right for them.

So, if you want somebody who's not going to judge you sexually, then you look for that because it doesn't matter if you sleep with somebody on the first date or you sleep with somebody after three months, right?

Like, if there's a connection and there's a real connection, and somebody wants a relationship, they're going to want a relationship, you know?

So

I hope younger people, if this is a younger trend, are not getting pulled into these silly ideas of women, especially.

Like, stop thinking about how you have to magically be perfect in order for a guy to commit and start looking for the guys who already have that commitment level and then make them work for you.

Like, stop trying to work for them.

You know what I mean?

Oh my God.

No, and I totally agree with you.

I always say do what feels right for you because the right guy for you, if it's the third date or the fourth date or the sixth day, they're still gonna like you.

And the asshole that has only been dating you to get you to have sex, he's still gonna be an asshole, right?

He's not gonna change.

You know what I mean?

Like, dog's gonna be a dog.

A dog's gonna be a dog.

It has nothing to do with when you

sleep with them.

I wish people would stop putting these rules out there so people can stop believing that they're real and they can just disappear.

I'm so glad you said that because I keep repeating that.

Stop, stop, stop.

And you know, it makes me sad that a lot of

quote-unquote relationship experts give women this kind of crazy advice.

Wait six months, wait until they put a ring on your finger, wait this way.

I'm like, I agree with you.

That's like so stupid, right?

That's playing games.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I don't want, you don't want the people who are playing games.

Like, those guys are fear-based.

Yeah.

They are not.

So, now, going back to what you you just said, one of the trends that I saw a lot this year, and it breaks my heart, and I want to smack this man, like you said, the dogs.

A lot of guys on these dating apps, they take a girl on a date, another date, another date, another date, and they say, yes, I want a relationship.

You're so nice.

You're this, you're that, you're that.

The minute they have sex, the guy's like, okay, bye, moves on to another one.

I don't even know how many messages I got this year from girls that were in this situation.

Friends of mine, strangers, all different countries.

And they think, because you know, these guys have so many options on the dating apps, they're just playing this horrible game.

I think that's the lowest scum on the planet.

A guy that does that to a woman.

Is there any way that a girl can like notice or protect herself from that behavior?

Have you heard of this trend at all?

The guys are doing that?

Yeah, I mean, I've definitely heard of guys.

I mean, it's just so much work.

Like, can't guys just like that just seems like so much work to get somebody to sleep with you.

Like, are these ugly guys?

like what i know i need more context because in my understanding it's not that hard for a guy to get a woman to sleep with him so there must be something going on with these guys if they have to work that hard in the first place but listen i think a lot of women really do fear and have this

this is what i notice the women that aren't thinking guys just want sex guys just want sex guys just want sex the women that aren't thinking that they're generally not attracting that many guys there are a lot of women who their mom told them forever or somebody told them that guys guys just want sex and it's so in their head and they they really believe that and i do notice that those women tend to attract those kinds of guys like it just it's it's part of what it is is your expectation right so like stop fearing that stop stop thinking that that's all that there is obviously there are some of those guys out there but the only thing you can control is your vibration, your thoughts, your expectation.

I know it's not every woman, but I swear most of the women who have this experience, somebody told them from when they were young or something happened where it was like drilled into them that this is just how guys are and those women like attract those kind of men.

So if it happens to you, try and not go, oh my God, this is all men.

Try and process the feeling and then don't give it a lot of your emotional attention because the more emotional attention you give it to it, the more you're attracting it over and over again.

Instead of seeing it as this is all men, it's like,

all right, I met one of those dudes, but it doesn't mean that all of that, like, it's not going to happen over and over and over again.

So, the only thing you can control is your identity, your expectations.

Oh, my God, I love that.

I love, love, love, love that.

That is so helpful.

That's so empowering.

Now, we're approaching the end of the year.

I know a lot of people, single people out there, men and women.

I just had like a two and a half hour meeting with a friend of mine today.

He's a multi-millionaire, so handsome, so successful.

And he was like, I'm exhausted, I am so tired of the dating game.

Dating is exhausting.

I hear that all the time because it is.

You know, it's a shit show, it's frustrating, it can be heartbreaking, especially if people use you, if they lie to you, if they break up with you over the phone.

Like it happened to me last year.

By the way, I recovered,

but anyway, I think the guy's a total douche that didn't deserve me.

Who the hell breaks up?

He wins the douche trophy of 2022 and 2023.

Who breaks up a relationship over the

Grow up, but anyways, a lot of people are tired.

I hear that a lot.

I'm just tired.

Any like words of encouragement, any advice, like moving on through the holiday season so they feel like empowered to try dating again in the new year with new energy.

I mean, like, please give yourself a lot of care and love.

Like, it's not the easiest thing in the world.

But also, like, okay, we have to distinguish between like mentally exhausted because you are replaying everything over and over again in your mind and like physically exhausted like if you're physically exhausted from dating you're working so much and you're trying to go on dates and you're physically exhausted take a physical break but mental exhaustion is a very different thing and that has to do with the dating experiences are happening and you're not metabolizing them.

It's like if you eat a donut and it doesn't go through your body and it stays as fat.

that's bad, right?

Like it's staying on you.

Like we don't want that.

We want to have a fast metabolism when we are dating.

So like some people, they hold on to stuff, they replay it, they talk about it with their friends, they think this happened, so it's never going to happen.

They're projecting negativity in the future.

To me, that is the most exhausting part.

It's actually what happens in your mind and what happens in your heart as a result.

So get out your journal, write about, like, just get the stuff out.

Like, I'm sad about this.

I'm upset about this.

and then try and leave it in your journal and just try and go back to having a little bit more faith hope and positivity not because it just feels better at the end of the day feeling hopeful gives you more energy than feeling negative thing about love is that literally somebody can walk into your life and it's changed for the rest of your life and that's like a really beautiful thing.

So dump the negativity in your journal and then try not to speak about it.

Try to speak about when you're out with your girlfriends, talk about what you hope for, what you desire.

Notice how easy it is for the conversation to go negative.

That means you are negatively attuned, right?

Like, talk more about what you desire.

Wouldn't it be great if this happened?

Wouldn't it be amazing if that happened?

Like, because then you're going to be in a more positive place, and that's all you can do.

It's hard sometimes.

So, like, it's hard, but you know, I love you because I'm the same.

No matter what happens to me, I'm always so positive when it comes to finding love and dating, and I am so chill about it so now i'm dating somebody new i'm not saying he's the man of my life but it's been going so nice and it's so effortless and it's so smooth and he's such a gentleman he's an adult he doesn't play games i'm not gonna jinx it a bit but i know he's gonna listen to the episode so i have to send a little shout out then all the assholes that came before it's the famous saying like when the right person comes along it makes you understand

why all the other ones were assholes and didn't work out and why you should never give up right just just chew and enjoy and let everything happen organically yeah and also when you meet the right person it's like you do forget about all the negative stuff yeah

in the positive and like know what like the love journey i'm not saying it's easiest thing in the world but if you keep an open heart if you go through the pain and then open up again which is what you did you are going to meet someone better like it's only we only keep meeting the bad ones if we haven't like processed the lessons and there's something else we need to learn.

But when you get the lesson, this I believe it's a kind universe at the end of the day.

Like if you got the lesson from your ex that you were supposed to get,

you need to attract the same thing again.

Like you're generally gonna move up to something better.

So if you feel like you're getting the same thing over and over again, typically that's something inside of you that just needs to shift or heal or be released because you're supposed to get better.

Like it's supposed to get better and better and better.

I love you because you're so positive, you're so uplifting and you do do coaching one-on-one, right?

If anybody wants a little extra help,

where do they find your Insta?

Yeah, you can find me on my Instagram.

It's at Nicole Morelove.

Right now I have on the top, I have a hot day with the hot guy in a week or less free challenge that I always put out during like the holiday time, and women use it because they want to get a New Year's date or whatever.

So it's like a five-day challenge you can do for free if you want to like get in that positive, attracting dating specifications at the top of my Instagram.

I love that.

I just love seeing people like, I'm on the TV.

Like it's so, it's so fun.

But I know I'm on Instagram or my website is loveworksmethod.com.

And yes, I do do private coaching because it's not easy, but when you have someone there who can be like, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna heal this, we're gonna shoot this.

Like I help people stay on that positive vibration so they manifest love quicker, you know?

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We're going online.

We're going to get you that love because there's no need to settle.

You're incredible.

Thank you so much for doing this.

I hope you feel 100% very soon.

You look amazing.

You look gorgeous, Nicole Murray, and have a wonderful holiday season.

And I hope when we turn the year, you come back so we talk about the new year and what's to come.

And I'll tell you how my new romance, my new dating is going.

Hopefully, it's going to last.

Yeah, if you're listening, he's an amazing woman.

I think he knows.

I think he knows.

We'll see.

Thank you so much, Nicole.

You're the best.

Guys, date safely.

Be good good out there.

And I'll be back with you very soon.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday.

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