MAJOR GIRL CHAT WITH URSKA HOSTESS OF PODCAST CAPTAINESE

So before I start today's podcast, I just want to

talk to you guys for a second because lately, you know,

my style of doing podcasts, my style of doing anything that I have passion for is very organic and very natural.

I don't like things that are very edited.

I don't like things that are very scripted.

And I am getting a lot of great feedback because apparently a lot of you guys enjoy that.

So every time I bring a guest, I don't really know what we're going to say.

I don't really know what we're going to talk about.

It just evolves.

This girl today really surprised me because we found each other on,

I think, I don't know, some platform.

She found me on social media.

She's all the way in Slovenia.

She is a podcaster herself and she's amazingly witty and intelligent.

And I love talking to people from other cultures and countries.

So I hope you guys enjoyed the episode.

Also, I have been getting a lot of backlash because I do do posts on my social media,

basically sending the messages that I want everybody to talk about.

And one of them is about sugar babies.

I live in LA.

I live in Beverly Hills.

It's very, very sad to see what a huge culture of sugar babies we have around here.

And I keep repeating it and I will repeat it for the rest of my life.

If you are one, if you're thinking about becoming one, basically the sugar baby, for those of you who don't know, it's like a woman, not necessarily a baby, grown-ass woman that want to find a man that will support them financially, period.

I think you're doing yourselves a disservice, and I think you're doing women in general a disservice.

It's just a horrible idea to sell yourself that short that you think the only thing you can contribute to the world is by being some guy's arm candy.

And I promise you, maybe today you don't believe me, but if you do it, you will look back and regret it.

I don't care who he is.

I don't care how much money the guy has.

Even if he agrees to pay your bills in exchange of whatever you give him, one day he will trade you for someone else and he will never ever respect you.

So, because all of my work, everything I do is about empowering women to be independent, to be intelligent, to contribute something to the world, to leave like some kind of good footprints behind.

I will always say that being a sugar baby is a horrible idea.

And the other day, some girl went through the trouble of writing a really long message on my Instagram, like, oh my God, you talk about giving blowjobs.

How much I like giving blowjobs, and you talk about sex.

It's the same thing.

You're just as much as a prostitute.

Well,

I think talking about sex is healthy, it's it is a big part of our lives, or it should be a big part of our lives.

I think women have all the right in the world to want to have great sex with their partners.

And I think if we spread the message that women out there should not be embarrassed of having sex, it's a very positive,

it has a very healthy outcome.

It is very, very different from prostitution, yes, and it's very, very different from looking at a man and saying, Hey, if you pay my bills, I'll give you a blowjob.

Thank God I've never done that in my life,

and I don't think I ever will because I am very proud of myself for being able to pay my bills.

And for those of you who don't know, I was married to a guy who was very, very wealthy.

So I was treated like a princess financially for 15 years because my husband was against me working.

He

was very controlling.

He was very obsessed with me, not in such healthy ways.

So he would always try to convince me to work less and less and less.

So he would have more control and power over me.

So people looking from the outside in,

many times they used to think like, oh, she's the blonde bimbo.

She's lazy.

She doesn't want to work.

But when in fact, it was always the opposite.

The struggle in our marriage was always me saying, I want to go to LA.

I want to do this job.

I want to to do that job.

I want to do this.

I want to do that.

It was always a big problem in our relationship.

And this is why, because I think no matter how rich your husband is, even if he wants to pay for vacations, give you clothes, okay, that's fantastic.

Buy a nice house.

Women should still contribute in some way.

You should still be independent.

You should still follow your passion.

You should still have a career.

Or even if you don't have a career, I don't know, learn something, learn a language, read a book, take a class, do charity.

Don't just be a useless bitch sitting at home all day or sitting by the pool all day.

It will backfire.

And I promise you, if you're younger than me, you will regret it.

If you're my age, because I know some girls here in LA in their 40s and 50s that have sugar daddies in their 60s and 70s, don't do it.

You will regret it.

I think it's beyond time that women should always, always, always always be seeking their independence.

And at the end of the day, it's so fulfilling to feel like, you know what, I do something productive.

And, you know, most men,

believe it or not, are very attracted to sexy, independent girls.

Most men do not want a dumb bimbo with an empty head, believe it or not.

These are my two cents.

Happy Veterans Day, everyone.

I have some friends who are veterans.

I send you guys a big kiss and a hug.

Thank you so much for everything you do for this country.

I hope everybody enjoys this weekend.

Be safe out there.

And I really hope you guys enjoyed this episode because I absolutely love this girl.

She's a sweetheart.

And I'll see you guys next week with more special guests.

Love you so much.

Happy Friday.

And this is why I love doing Caton De Luz so much.

We end up connecting with people all over the freaking world.

So today we're doing a pod swap with a girl that we found each other online all the way in Slovenia.

And she has a super cool podcast.

So, let me introduce her.

And I hope I pronounce your name okay, but I love it.

Urshka.

Did I do it right?

Okay, that was really good.

That was even better than before.

Urshka, I love saying it.

I think your language is like very powerful and sexy.

You know, people say it's aggressive for whatever reason.

I don't find it aggressive.

I find it like sexy.

Yeah,

it's aggressive and it's dominant.

And we have confidence in our language.

I love it.

When we talk, people listen.

There you go.

I want to learn a bunch of words in Slovenian, okay?

But anyways, let's get going.

It's a pleasure having you here.

So thank you for doing this.

It's super cool.

Thank you so much for inviting me, man.

My pleasure.

Good job.

Thank you.

So are you.

So your podcast is called Captain Ez.

Captain East, yeah.

Captain Ease.

So can you tell us about it, like for my audience, how you started?

I know you're talking about all kinds of fun stuff.

Yeah, so, well, I have no life, you know, I'm not gonna lie, just put it out there.

I'm not the only one, right?

Okay, but let's have no life.

Okay, so just so my audience understands, let's situate you.

You introduce yourself to me.

You're like, hi, I'm Urshka, and I do this podcast although in Slovenia and I'm anti-social you're like a self-proclaimed antisocial person why because you want to or because also proclaimed by other people I'm you know in a way I'm a pretty messed up person you know like I'm just gonna be honest and yeah please I love it most of my Hell yeah, most of my activities are alone.

So what I do is I work out alone.

I read.

That's alone activity.

Everything I do is alone.

And I travel alone, right?

So I feel like this podcast is kind of like a way of connecting with people.

totally and this is what i want to say look americans and everyone else listening if you are asocial you may be you know and you don't like hanging out with people

start doing a podcast start

random zoom meetings

totally totally i love it but okay so before we talk about your podcast you're sitting there in symlovania you're gorgeous you guys can go i'm gonna publish all the videos so people see your face you're super pretty your english is fabulous by the way yeah i love that smile And so, why?

Like,

why would you say you're antisocial?

You don't like going out with people or you have some kind of anxieties?

Because a lot of people suffer from social anxiety, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't have social anxiety.

I feel like when I am out, which is very rarely, I will be actually very extroverted and I like to talk to people when I'm out.

But it's a rarity because, you know, in my head, like, this is how messed up I am sometimes.

I feel like, okay, I could go go out with someone and have a drink or whatever.

Yeah, but that's going to be one hour.

During that hour, I could be way more productive if I just do something else.

Oh, my God.

I think it's more like a productivity issue.

I see.

And when I have people at my house,

again, very rarely, I either fake leave my house to make them leave, or if they're close to me, I just tell them it's time to go.

So you have the antisocial personality, obviously.

And then you started your podcast called

Captain Ez.

And you talk a little bit about everything.

Well, I talk, I always say, okay, I'm not going to be political on this podcast.

No, you don't.

I usually analyze this podcast.

It's pretty political.

I have a lot of political videos because people like it.

And I have on people who are either whistleblowers or people with very strong opinions about something.

And it is interesting, you know, so it's growing.

You're doing, yeah, you're doing an amazing job.

And I gotta tell you that starting a podcast from scratch is an uphill battle because now, of course, there are like millions, literally millions of podcasts out there.

And I get messages from people every day, like, oh, I'm starting a podcast.

Like, okay, great.

I encourage, like I said, it's a wonderful way of communicating.

And I love when I meet somebody from another country, like it's happening to us.

We never would otherwise have met and be talking.

But I always say it's a ton of work.

You got to put in the time, you got to put in the energy, you got to plan, you got to try to make interesting conversations.

So, for people out there listening, yeah, I commend you if you want to get it done, but don't think that it's easy, right?

Like a lot of people, the other day, some lady sent me a message, Oh, I'm doing these YouTube videos and I'm talking and I have a podcast.

I'm like, Lady, it's a little more than that.

You got to put like a lot of work into it if you want to have a successful podcast.

Yeah, I think the average time that when people actually start making money is like over a year or something like that.

It takes a lot.

Wow,

that's a lot.

It is better love

doing that.

One million percent.

One million percent.

I've been doing Cat on the Luz now for almost three years.

And just now, finally, we're getting like a really good amount of downloads.

We're finally getting better sponsors.

We're finally booking like, you know, celebrities or more famous people.

Although that doesn't really matter to me, Honestly, Canon DeLuz is more like about interesting conversations.

I don't care who the person is, as long as you have something interesting to say, I'm all game.

So, now, Urshka, I love saying your name.

You're sitting there, you're doing your podcast, you're gorgeous, you're anti-social.

Let's talk about dating because this podcast is about sex, dating, and relationships.

Do you date?

How is dating in Slovenia?

I have 10 million dating

questions for you.

You know what?

In Slovenia, like if you really want to find someone, the best thing to do is just go out.

Yeah, like him.

And yeah, yes, like myself.

So, well, I basically stick to Tinder, you know.

And how this looks like is I put myself on there, I start swiping right to some people.

And I mean, you know how it is, right?

It's like

you know how it is.

Women, we swipe right maybe once every 20 guys or something.

I'm more like once every 500, if you believe that.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

See?

And even me, like my age range, I'm 27.

I put my age range from 18 because I cannot go below 18.

Like, that's jail time for me.

To

40 almost, you know.

And so, yeah, and then I swipe right.

And then if we match, which we usually do because they have no idea how asocial I am, they think I'm a normal person.

Then we say, hi, how are you doing?

And then the conversation just plummets.

Because you don't want to meet them in person?

That's a good question.

I don't even know.

I don't even know.

Do you ever go meet and meet somebody in person?

No.

So you never date?

No, I do not date.

Did you ever date before?

Well,

I usually have.

Oh, I had one boyfriend that was.

Okay, so you had sex.

Let's put that out there.

You've had sex.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay, thank goodness.

And I'm not a virgin.

No, I'm not a virgin.

Okay, good, good, good, good.

I needed to ask.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, and I'm not like, I'm not an incel.

Well, you know, I'm not a member of the incel community, although I could be, but you know, I'm kind of lucky with the fact that I'm not like totally ugly, you know.

Like, you're what the hell are you talking about?

You're blonde, you have blue eyes, you're super adorable.

Stop it.

Oh, that's a whole other show if you have body images.

But you see, and that's one thing, you know.

You see, on Tinder, I look even better.

I would give myself a tan because I'm using Photoshop 2021, right?

That's the latest one, you know.

And

that, yeah, and I mean, in person, I look okay, but you can see that's not, you know, it's kind of like, it's kind of like McDonald's, you know, when you see those hamburgers on

the advertisement, and then you get it in the future.

It's funny that you're saying that because I talk a lot on the podcast, especially the past few episodes, about how, at least here in the United States, men in general, they use so much these dating apps that we became like fast food, like ordering fast food.

They're like, Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.

And then they date you, maybe, even they maybe even like you, or they have sex with you, or something, and then they're like, eh, I'm tired of it.

And they toss you in the trash and they move on to the next, the next, and the next, because there's so many, there's so many choices, so much availability that people lost touch

with reality or you know, with feelings or anything else.

So that's definitely a bad side about using daily apps at least here in the United States I don't know if you guys have the same experience there that's that instant gratification mindset totally we have it no we have it there's no lack of that mindset here yeah and

you know everything is moving online also sex is moving online you see a lot of people being addicted to porn which by the way I was I was addicted to porn.

Really?

Addicted?

Like in what sense?

That you are watching it all the time?

All the time.

And you see what people don't understand about addiction to porn.

By the way, way, I've never talked about this on my podcast.

Oh, wow.

Thank you.

I'm very honored that you're talking about that here.

No, yeah, because

it's a super important issue.

And it happened to a lot of people during COVID.

One thing is, I think it's very healthy.

I watch porn when, like, now I'm not in a relationship, and I'm not, I don't like having sex with strangers.

It's just me.

I only have sex like with my guy if I'm in a relationship.

So, look, I haven't had sex since I broke up with my boyfriend six, seven weeks ago.

To me, that's a crazy long time without having sex.

So I watch porn and I love using my vibrators, my sex toys.

But one thing is watching porn to satisfy yourself and get horny, la la la.

But another thing, yeah, when it starts affecting your life and you become an addict.

And I know there are a lot of people out there with this issue.

So you're very brave for talking about it.

It messes you up.

And you know, the thing about addiction to porn is...

First you start and then what happens is you have to have more and more extreme vision.

Like it just gets, you know, now sexually wise, I'm very plain vanilla, but masturbationally-wise, I'm a savage because that's from my addiction.

Like the things I look at, you know, you would put me in a mental hospital, like close section, you know?

And it was so cute, though.

Porn is getting more and more extreme throughout the years.

Yes.

Because of sex addictions.

Yes, 1 million percent.

1 million percent.

So let's delve into that a little bit.

You were an addict in terms of you were watching porn all day long?

All the time?

Pretty much all day long, yes.

It was, yeah, to the point where it was messing my life.

So you weren't working?

What do you do for work?

I'm an option trader.

Oh, how cool.

So you do everything from home?

Everything from home, except traveling.

Oh, my God.

And when you travel, when you're out there, do you have like anxiety?

Or you're okay?

When I travel, I actually meet a lot of people for whatever reason.

I meet a lot of locals.

I feel like when you travel alone, you meet even more people as if you were traveling with other people because you're more open.

That is so true.

But, like, at least here, like, we're talking and looking at each other on camera.

You seem very outgoing and very friendly.

And you have like this beautiful smile.

So, I don't picture you being like this, you know, because usually antisocial people are serious, they're unfriendly, they don't even like looking you in the eyes.

And I just see a completely different personality from you.

Thought you're like super outgoing, super sweet.

And my type is the worst.

Those who you think, oh, that's super sweet.

Oh, so friendly.

But I can't, like, I've never, you know, I've never been mean to people, actually.

Like, never.

I'm friendly.

I just, I like people.

I'm friendly.

I just...

don't hang out with people that I hear you sometimes and it's fun.

But what I do like is I like to observe people, you know?

Don't want to hang out with them.

Just observe them.

That's always super smart.

And I hear you because I am very social and I love being out and I love doing things with people.

However, the more I live, I think as I'm getting older and older, I get pickier and pickier and pickier.

I prefer smaller groups of friends.

I don't like...

hanging out in like these places with tons of people and the stupid bars and parties.

I always feel like if I'm gonna go out, it has to bring something worthwhile into my life, if that makes sense.

Like if I go to an event, it's usually related to work,

or if I go out with my friends, it's with friends that I really want to be around, you know, or a business contact.

I don't like when I was in my 20s, I would just go out and party, like, ah, like, whatever the fuck.

Now I'm like just pickier, more selective with what regarding what I do.

You know, that's the difference.

But you can curse on your podcast.

1 million percent.

Oh, fuck yeah.

Cat on the loose is like 100% unfiltered, unedited.

It's real life.

You can fuck, you can talk about sex.

You can say anything you want.

One minute.

You should be my dating coach.

I don't.

Well, look, listen.

I don't know if I could.

I'm still single, so obviously I'm doing something wrong, right?

I don't know anything about dating.

I don't know how to play the dating game.

I think I was married for 14 years.

I don't know if you know that.

And then after that, I went into the dating world like the past few years.

And obviously, it's been a disaster.

And that's how the podcast started because I started like sharing my stories and you know interviewing experts and try to figure out like what the hell is going on because I think it's like this crazy chaotic game out there that people play with each other they make all these rules like if you go on Instagram and social media even the dating experts they're like do this don't do that Call, don't call.

And I'm like, I have no time for games.

I have no time for bullshit.

The only thing I know how to do is be me.

And if you like me, that's wonderful.

But I just don't have time to play games, you know, and that's probably why I'm still single.

There's a lot of power play going on, you know?

Yes.

And we live in a traumatized society, which also plays into, you know,

plays into dating.

And then you add instant gratification because we are kind of spoiled, you know, everything is like right at our doorstep, you know, everything is delivery and we

want it and we want it now.

Exactly.

And that shows in dating.

Yeah.

I could not agree with you more.

I think, like I said, the good thing about the dating apps is we meet people, like we met each other to do the podcast.

And it's the same thing with dating apps.

You would meet people that otherwise you never would cross their path.

So yeah, that's good.

But on the other hand, yeah, there's so many people, so much availability that I think most men, especially men, they just go like, oh my God, all these women want me.

And then they become like these immature a-holes, you know, they don't even think straight anymore.

And that, to me, that's like just really annoying.

I don't have time for that.

Narcissism is definitely on the rise.

You know what's interesting?

I've never, I don't know if you've ever been, uh, have ever met, have men ever looked at you in a casual way, like wanting to only have sex with you and then not a relationship?

Of course, all the freaking time.

See, that never happened to me.

Really?

I get, yes, I had either serious men who wanted more or a lot of times I got friend zoned.

I got, I get, I do that too.

Like a lot of the guys that I start talking to, most of them become my friends.

Some of them became my clients.

I have clients.

Did you friend zone them?

Yeah, I think it was mutual.

I don't know who started it, but yeah, many times I'll meet a guy online and then we start talking and then it goes towards the business territory.

Like two of my clients, they were like, oh, and then we decide, okay, let's have a business relationship or let's be friends.

But in terms of like casual sex, at least here in the United States, most men on dating apps want casual sex.

Many of them lie to you.

They literally lie to your face, like, oh, yeah, no, I want a relationship.

I want to date someone.

This is bullshit.

Like, the minute they whine and dine you, like on the second date, they're going to try to bang you.

That's what most guys do.

And then they just move on to the next and the next and the next.

And I think I have been a victim of that.

And most of my girlfriends have been a victim of that.

So, nowadays, what I say is like, get to know the person a little better to make sure, like, if you want a relationship, that the guy's on the same page, you know.

You know, honestly, maybe I should move to LA.

Yes,

so much more.

I wouldn't mind it.

I wouldn't mind.

For once, I want to be objectified.

I want to be viewed as a sexual object for once.

Finally, because at the rate I'm getting friend zone,

but listen, you are young and beautiful, and I always say that too.

I am not against women wanting to just have sex.

I think we have the same right as men do.

Like, guys, when a guy says, Oh, I just want like a one-night stand, I just want quick sex.

Nobody says anything.

It's like, go for it.

When a girl says that, look, I don't want anything serious.

I just want to have quick sex.

We are called whores.

We are called, you know, all kinds of bad shit, promiscuous, promiscuous, you name it.

But I think women have the same rights as men.

If you're young and you're not ready for a relationship and you're like, you know what, I just want a man to take me out on dates and tell me how gorgeous I am, and maybe I want to have casual sex with them, it's 1 million percent your right to do that.

Yeah.

And I think in Los Angeles, as a good-looking woman, it's also 1 million percent chance that you're gonna get someone.

You know, like you can go out, and in a matter of five minutes, there's someone.

1 million percent sure yes as a woman i will tell you if you open a dating app especially tinder we're gonna talk about the other dating apps in a minute because i want to know if you have also bumbo and the other ones in your country but here in the united states tinder started as a hookup app when they set it up it was literally an app just people to meet and like hey do you want to have sex do you want to hang out do you want to hook up now it developed into you know you can choose like you can tell people if you want a relationship, et cetera.

But still, obviously, let's be honest about it.

Most people on Tinder, all they want to do is fuck.

So if you open Tinder in LA or New York, anywhere, and you write in your profile, hi, I'm here, and I just want casual sex.

Oh my God, you're going to have like...

thousands of men to choose from on any given day.

Any girl for that matter, like yes, if we want to have sex, all I have to do is open my app and say, hi, who wants to fuck me tonight?

And then there's like a line of dudes that are going to say, Oh, yeah, I'll be more than happy to, you know, but that's just

like a lot of us, a lot of women have men in their inbox constantly.

Like, there's at least 10 guys constantly in your inbox.

Exactly, my inbox, but a normal woman's inbox, and that's what I'm talking about.

You are too, if you want to, you know, that.

Come on, hopefully, maybe they're in my spam.

I have to look when we're done.

When we're done with the podcast, I have to see your Tinder profile because I want to see what you wrote there.

Because if you do a nice profile, like beautiful the way you are, you're super intelligent, you're witty.

I am a million percent sure there'll be a line of guys wanting to take you out.

And at least the last description, the better.

Because as soon as I start writing, like the more they read, the more they're going to be like, oh man.

Look, I think it depends.

And this is my opinion.

This is what I tell girls when they send me messages.

I think you put on your dating profile what you want to attract.

So, like in my case, I decided at this point in my life, I want a relationship.

That's what I want.

I've had casual sex before, of course.

I've had a million bad dates.

I've done everything.

Now, I decided I like being in a relationship because I like having sex every day.

I like the intimacy.

I like making plans, etc., etc.

So, my dating profiles, if you read them, they're really tough because i want to weed out 90 of the bullshit you know so i actually tell men like this is what i want i want a relationship i'm hot i'm beautiful i take care of myself i'm successful i'm hardworking like the ball is really really high so you need to be up to par or higher than me if not don't even bother so i think you just have to tell the truth regarding what you want you know yeah and be honest with who you are and what you bring to the table table.

Because a lot of people, you know,

they say, Yeah, but why you hold such high standards?

Well, I

bring this to the table, you know, at least I can expect that, you know, exactly, 1 million percent.

And I think in your case, you basically just do the same.

Obviously, you're gorgeous.

Like, you guys are going to see her cute face.

She's smiling now on my Instagram.

I'm going to publish the videos.

You have the sweetest smile.

You're super intelligent.

Which, by the way, a lot of girls sell themselves short they like oh guys only care if I'm pretty that's bullshit most men and I have interviewed dozens of men on my podcast my best friends are male most men love intelligent women like they have something to say that know what's going on so if you're just a dumb idiot and you think oh all they care about is like how cute my boobs are,

you know, you're gonna get fucked.

Because at the end of the day,

how many times, how many hours a day do we have sex?

Like, even if we have sex, let's say an hour, two hours a day, hopefully.

But after that, when they're sitting down to have dinner with you or drinks, whatever, they actually want you to have something to say and contribute to the relationship or to the date.

Do you agree?

Yeah, and besides, do you really want to be with a man who's only interested in looks?

You know, because

a lot about a man, too.

yeah, but believe it or not,

the culture of, you know, they say the sugar babies.

I don't know if you guys have that in Slovenia, but I think I heard a little bit about that in one of your episodes yesterday.

Here in the United States, the culture of sugar babies, unfortunately, is really, really big.

And I say that on my podcast, and I get backlash for it, and I don't care.

I think sugar babies do a disservice to all women.

Because the minute you're you're telling a guy, hey, look, I am so pretty, I am so cute, I have big boobs, pay my bills.

I'm sorry, Chamitza form of prostitution, number one, but also, like, what the fuck is inside your brain?

Do something with your life, you know, get a job, help a charity.

I don't know.

And that's why I keep sending this message over and over and over on my podcast.

Don't be a fucking sugar baby.

You should, if the guy wants to pay your bills, fantastic.

You know, I was married to a multi-millionaire for 14 years and he insisted on,

actually, he didn't like that I worked, but that's a whole other story.

But my point is, if you tell a guy that all you want to do is have him pay your bills and you can sit by the pool all day, trust me, they're not going to respect you.

I mean, they have nothing to respect, you know, like

the only value that you bring is looks and maybe some services, but then that's

pretty much it.

I mean, at the minimum, I would say if you want a man to be the provider, at least provide support, you know?

Yeah.

Bring some intelligence, like bring some substance, you know?

Because after 20 years, then he's going to go with a younger one who's providing these services and 10 times better than you.

Exactly.

1 million percent.

You need to bring something to the table.

And I've been talking about it the past episodes.

And a lot of people agree.

And some girls are like, oh, why are you complaining about sugar babies?

You talk about sex.

You talk about how much you like giving blowjobs.

And I'm like, I don't understand the comparison in terms of wanting to have great sex and enjoying blowjobs as opposed to like being a newseless bitch that wants somebody to pay their bills and nothing else.

Yeah, my best friend is chiming in.

I'm sorry.

No, it's okay.

It's okay.

You're welcome.

What did she say?

She, what did you say?

When you come talk, you got to come talk next to us.

Otherwise, we don't hear you.

I said they use it as a job.

Ah, the sugar babies, yeah.

They consider being a sugar baby a job.

Yeah, kind of like an escort, basically.

Escorting is a job, you know?

Sex work.

Yeah.

It is.

One million percent.

You know, I had a, you know, I had a male sugar baby.

You did?

Oh, my God.

Why did you even know it?

I was a sugar.

I was a sugar.

What do you mean you didn't even know you were paying his bills?

I was paying his rent for about a year.

Oh, why?

Oh, my God.

I I don't know.

I don't know.

He manipulated me.

So

you're a Jamaican.

You're a Jamaican.

He convinced you to pay his rent.

Were you living with him at least?

At least?

Oh, hell no.

I was in Slovenia.

Oh, he was not even in Slovenia?

Not even.

Oh,

when I was traveling alone, I went to Jamaica and I met this guy.

And we were, you know, we really got along.

And then I came back home and he was like, you know, this and that happened.

You know, mother has problems.

He got kicked out.

He lost his job.

Can you pay my rent?

And I was like, okay, well, I do have money.

So I'm going to pay his rent.

And I was paying it for about a year.

Oh, my.

And then,

yeah, then he broke up with me and went with an older woman who had more money.

See, he was definitely like a professional sugar baby.

If you can use that, I guess you can call a man a sugar baby.

Oh my God.

I'm sorry that you went through that.

And I say the same thing over and over again.

If people ask you for money, run, run.

When you're meeting someone, when you're dating them, when you're having sex, hooking up, whatever the hell it is, they should be with you for you.

If you want to give them something, it's because you want to give them something.

But if they start asking you, oh, my mother is sick, my father, run, run, because that person is not interested in you.

They're interested in your money.

You don't have to be a victim of that.

Oh, I'm sorry that I have to do that.

While dating, I mean, when you're dating someone, they have no business asking you for money.

One million percent, yes.

It's very, yeah,

they're not creative at all.

I lose the same excuse as tuition, yeah.

Mom had surgery, yeah, and they lost their job.

I know, right?

It's always the same bullshit.

Oh my god, we have to take a two-minute break.

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No, believe it or not, like let's be honest.

We were just talking here during the break.

Some people are just really boring.

Or they say some really crazy shit that we have every right in the world to call them out.

And some people really don't have a lot to say.

You know, I have have had guests in the past that I thought, wow, this person is gonna be like the best guest I had.

And I don't know if they get like a little embarrassed or a little uncomfortable, and they end up just being like a little boring.

And some people surprise me, like, wow, this person is like you.

I didn't expect that you were gonna be like, I have so much fabulous, rich, incredible information because we never talked before, and I'm like, happily surprised.

This is super cool.

So let's shoot.

And I just wanna say this.

This is what a lot of people don't succeed with their podcast because these people invite people over just to have guests, you know, they don't they don't prepare themselves.

They don't they're not even interested in what that person has to say.

And that shows on camera, like you can see it, that that person is not enjoying the conversation.

So that's also one of the

big reasons why many podcasts fail because people just don't have fun.

Exactly.

I think when you're listening to a podcast,

a lot of my audience, they listen like most people in the car when they're sitting in traffic or maybe when they're working out or something.

It's supposed to bring some kind of emotion to your listener.

Like if you have a comedy podcast, yeah, make them laugh.

In my case, it's sex, it's dating, it's relationships, it's not like, you know, rocket science, it's not supposed to be serious, I'm not a freaking expert.

I keep repeating that time and time and time again because sometimes people ask me, like, are you an expert in this subject?

And I'm like, no, I'm just a girl, like most girls in the world, like you.

you, just try to navigate this chaos, this crazy, crazy world of sex, dating, and relationships.

And I think we all learn together when we start sharing experiences, right?

Well, I mean, when it comes to sex compared to me, you probably have a PhD.

I don't know if I have a PhD, but again, I love having sex.

I think it's a super important part of life.

And I keep pounding and pounding and pounding.

And I don't know how Slovenian girls are, but in general, and I always say in general because I get this backlash, it's like, I'm not like that.

Of course, everything has an exception.

In general, the American culture, women are very, very uptight about sex.

They're embarrassed talking about it.

They're embarrassed in bed asking their partners what they want to do.

You know, so just in general, the way they are raised.

And I think I try to encourage women, empower women, that it's completely okay and healthy to have a healthy sex life, to want to have sex.

That doesn't make you a bad person.

It doesn't make you a hooker.

It doesn't make you a prostitute.

It just makes you a healthier, happier woman.

You know, I don't know if you noticed that.

People that never ever have sex, including masturbate, because even if you're just doing it with yourself, it's better than doing nothing.

They're just miserable people.

People that disconnect.

Exactly.

And you age faster.

You just become like

an old

person in a bad mood all the time.

Sometimes women use the excuse of a headache to not have sex for whatever reason, you know.

I mean, but actually, sex helps with headaches.

I agree, and I was going to say that.

I was always the opposite.

Like, when I'm in a relationship, I make no excuses.

Like, if I'm if I have a headache, yeah, oh, you know, honey, I have a headache.

Let's have sex.

It makes me feel better.

If you're stressed out, you shouldn't say, I'm too stressed out.

I want to go go to sleep go bang your guy bang your girl have great delicious sex because that definitely relieves stress i think it's a a wonderful wonderful natural uh chemical in your brain i think it's so much better than taking medication it solves so many problems people should have more sex and talk less honestly seriously

Oh, I agree to that.

You see, and it's kind of like a workout.

You may not feel like doing it at the beginning, but at the end, you feel great.

And see, this is something that that I really want to tell women, you know, because I don't talk to a lot of women, but when you're in a relationship,

sometimes have sex even if you don't feel like it.

And I can

feel, like, I could just hear the feminist say,

How dare you say that?

But it's true, you know.

Sometimes, okay, if you don't feel like it, do it, you know.

I don't feel like taking the trash out every day, but still do it, you know.

And I'm not saying force yourself every single time that your man wants sex, but every now and then, you know, do it.

I agree with you.

Yeah, I feel like in Slovenia, women are actually very open.

Yeah, oh, that's good.

We have sex a lot, sometimes even with other people.

With other people, like group sex.

Yes, we are an open culture.

That's good.

I think what is kind of concerning is that it's moving online as well with these sex robots.

I just talked to someone on my podcast.

The future of sex is sex robots.

I hope not.

I really, really hope not.

To me, that's one thing.

Like I said,

masturbating is better than nothing.

So yeah, when I'm single, definitely 1 million percent.

I do it a lot and I highly recommend it.

But I think nothing beats sex with somebody that you really enjoy, like the touch, you know, the smells and everything.

So hopefully that's never gonna go away.

Oh my god.

And casual sex is kind of overrated in a way.

You know, it's like, yeah, I understand that, you know, there is a beauty to casual sex especially if you're not going to see that person ever again because you can try all the stuff that you're not that you may be too afraid to communicate with your partner but there's no better sex than with someone you are connected to i agree look and for women yes and for women to me i what i like about sex with one person is because the more you do it you you build up that intimacy and i think intimacy when you start getting to know the person's body what makes them enjoy it more, what they like, what you like, and then you feel a little more comfortable telling them about what you like and

really living all your fantasies.

I think that's the fun about being in a relationship.

If you have one, a one-night stand casual sex, it's really just the urge.

You're gonna touch that person, you're gonna fuck them, like animals, really, right?

It's good to come, you come, like that,

then you put your pants on, like, okay, bye, thank you.

But you're never gonna

masturbation, yeah, exactly.

Pretty much, but you're never gonna have them mind the you know, the connection, you're just not.

But hey, again,

to each their own, and if that's what you like to do, I'm not gonna say that it's a bad idea because I think women should do whatever the hell they want as much as men, right?

That's right, that's right.

Just know that there are cons, you know, and there are certain consequences.

I feel like when you have a lot of casual sex for a longer period of time, you start treating, I mean, you separate sexuality from your persona and your emotional state.

So you see that person as someone being, you know, as a sexual object.

Yes.

Yes.

And I don't think you can see them casually without seeing you yourself casually.

So it it kind of backfires.

You know, maybe it's an unconscious consequence of constantly having casual sex, but it is there.

I agree with you.

I think it desensitizes the person.

And and like this day and age, that's why you see so many men, like they have casual sex, casual sex, casual sex.

And they don't care like if they ghost you, if they disappear, if they break your heart, because they're like, like you said, they see you as an object.

They see you like, oh, it was just casual sex.

What the fuck is her problem?

And in a way, unfortunately, our culture of dating apps and everything is creating this situation.

But I agree with you, at the end of the day, after a few years of doing that, even men get tired of it.

I've talked to many men and I have many male friends that for many years after they get divorced, or many months after they get divorced, or whatever, get out of a relationship, they think it's so much fun going out with a bunch of different women all the time because it makes them feel great.

But after a while, doing that, they're like, ah, you know, I want to find one girl, my girl, I want to have sex with that girl.

Everybody gets tired of fast food, I guess, right?

You cannot have it every day.

Yeah, and this is something that I want to say to dating coaches.

You know, there's a lot of red pill community dating coaches that say, Look, you're a 50-year-old successful man.

Go out, go to the bar, and have as many women as you want.

Have casual sex, enjoy.

Let me just tell you, you know, from a female perspective, it looks sad.

Okay, it looks, you know, with who approaches you.

I agree 1 million percent.

It looks creepy.

Yeah.

And otherwise, it looks really sad.

Because when you're old, what else do you have besides family?

What else do you have?

Totally.

No, and I think it's sad in the sense that it makes me wonder, like, do you have a shallow mind that at this point in your life you still need to prove to yourself that you can get so many girls?

It makes me wonder about like their entire personality.

Because usually a guy that is, like you said, seeking quantity, quantity, quantity, it's not just about the sex.

It's something else that they're seeking, like that is missing inside them, you know.

And for me, I don't know for you, I'm a major sapiosexual.

I need to have the mental connection.

Like, it can be the hottest guy on the planet, and I'm talking to him.

If I don't have a mental connection, if I don't feel he has something to say to me, or there is something else interesting going on in his life, I am completely turned off by that person.

See, this is where we differ.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love it.

If I see a guy and and

he's hot as fuck, you're like, okay, let's fuck.

And he's hot as fuck.

And then I talk to him and I notice he's not very intelligent.

You know, he's not exactly Einstein.

He is broke.

He doesn't have anything.

But he's hot.

Like your guy in Jamaica, for example.

Like him, I'm like, okay, we're taking it.

I mean, we're taking shots until you sound smart.

Oh my God, I love it.

You're so cute.

Well, you know what?

These men, to go back to these older men who are sleeping with a lot of women, they think, oh, I have all these options with women.

Yeah, but what type of women?

Do you think

these women are high-quality?

No, they're not.

Yeah, I know.

No, they're not.

They're not.

These women are on

your level,

or they're going to want to...

Yeah.

Or they're going to want your money.

Or they're going to want something from you.

And that's why the game gets old.

so many of these guys I think finding someone nice on a dating app is like finding the diamond in the sand that's why I'm lazy I rarely rarely even use dating apps because I don't have the time or the patient and then if you do find that person

hopefully you appreciate it you're like okay I found my diamond in the sand but for a lot of men it's such a temptation

to keep looking.

Oh, look, these girls are giving me attention.

These girls are giving me attention.

Then they kind of like take the diamond for granted and they jump back into the dating pool because it makes their ego feel good.

And then what happens after a few months doing that?

Like you said, they get burned out, they get tired, they're like, oh, what the fuck am I doing?

Because who, I think any normal human being on the planet gets tired of this bullshit after a while.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

And then if you have that diamond in the rough, you know, that woman who's really

down, you know, like

the writer, the rider-die-chick.

Yeah.

If you're not gonna take her, somebody else will.

Exactly.

No, 1 million percent, sure, because like girl, women of quality are very hard to find.

Very hard to find.

Women are always gonna have options, regardless of their age.

Regardless of their options.

1 million percent.

Women that

work like us, I make my own money.

I don't want any guy to support me financially.

Like I said, if you wanna give me a gift, if you wanna take me on vacation, if you want to take me to dinner, I love it.

I love old-fashioned gentlemen.

But it's a big difference between being a sugar baby, like sit on the couch all day and let this idiot pay my bills.

Like, I know a lot of girls around here in LA and Beverly Hills that do that.

And I keep telling them, what the fuck is wrong with you?

When you're 50, when you're 60, you're going to look back, you're going to feel like a complete asshole, like you didn't accomplish anything with your life.

I think it's honestly a really stupid idea.

And I'm sorry if you girls are listening to me.

You know, wake the fuck up and get a freaking job, learn a language, go to school.

I don't know, do something productive with your life.

That's that's just my opinion.

Yeah, the woman that should be sitting next to you in your Ferrari is the same one who was sitting next to you when you were on a bus.

Yeah, always,

and yeah, so yeah, so these older men brag about how many women they have, but it's it's it's no quality whatsoever.

You know, that's like me bragging: look how many clothes I have, look how many t-shirts.

Yeah, but I paid one dollar for all of them.

I know, I know.

It's it's

just crazy.

But in your case, because you said, like, you know, you wouldn't mind if the guy is super hot.

I just think you're like in a different

time of your life.

You're super young.

You're very beautiful.

I don't blame you.

Like, if I could tell my, when I was 27, I was already married, which honestly, I think is a really bad mistake.

If I could go back in time, I would tell myself, don't marry so young.

Because when you're 22 years old, you think you're ready for marriage.

You think you know what you want.

But guess what?

Your mindset, your life is gonna change so much.

So, I think when you're 27, 1 million percent, you should be enjoying life.

Yes, you should be traveling, you should be trying 10 million new things, meeting new people.

And yes, if you meet a hot guy, don't think too much about it.

You want to have great, delicious sex with the guy, go for it.

Just do me a favor and don't pay his rent for a year.

Okay, well, keep that in mind.

Unless,

unless you guys decide to live together and then you're like, okay, whatever.

I want to have this guy banging me every night.

I'm going to pay the rent.

Well, and it's going to be worth it, you know?

Exactly.

But don't send money to Jamaica ever again, please.

You know, but I think the number one reason why I would get married right now, even if I was dating someone, I would want to wait a little bit because my communication skill comes on a point.

I feel like when you get married, the number one thing that you do need is healthy communication.

And I need to work on that.

And I've been getting better, you know, I've been getting better since my addiction to video games and having no social life.

I've been getting better, but still not enough because, like, you want to marry someone who you can negotiate with and you can communicate with healthily.

Yes.

Yeah, because you know, people who stay together for decades, that's one thing they have in common, right?

The communication.

I think it's hard, you know.

I mean, because both people are probably fucked up in a way, you know.

Well, look, I think

regardless of whether you're married or not, any relationship,

you need to communicate.

Like even if you start dating someone, right?

You're getting to know the person.

If you're not communicating with the person, that's the number one problem that couples have.

That's the number one reason why people break up, believe it or not, because they either don't know how to do it or they don't want to do it or they're too shy about it.

But for whatever reason, if you don't sit down and look each other in the eyes and say, look, this is what I want, this is what I like, you did this, that hurt me.

If you don't do that, for one reason or another, it doesn't work out because unfortunately, we cannot read minds.

And that's a really big problem.

It has happened to me, I think it happens to a lot of women and a lot of men.

You meet somebody and they start making assumptions about you.

Like they think they know what you want, they think they know what you're doing, they think they know what you're thinking, and that always, always, always backfires.

So, that's just from doing doing the podcast.

And by the way, next week I'm bringing in a communications expert, a super cool guy.

He wrote a book about the art of communication.

He has done more than 10,000 hours of podcasts and radio shows.

It's specifically to talk about that.

Like, how do we learn how to be better communicators with our partners before we fuck it up, you know?

Yeah, it's very useful to just sit down with them.

Yes.

Say, as embarrassing as it is, say, look, I'm stupid.

Okay, I'm gonna need you to tell me what you want because I

cannot figure it out myself.

Exactly, yes,

but then again, it's hard.

You know, I mean, there's nothing harder than sitting down with your partner about something that you're embarrassed about and say, Look, I'm having this problem.

This is how I feel, especially if it relates to sex, you know.

Look,

it's embarrassing, yes, for most people, it's very, very, very difficult.

Even people married for 20 years, they have a lame sex life because they're embarrassed to tell their wife, honey, I want to tie you up in bed or let's bring a fucking vibrator into bed.

And I keep repeating this over and over again.

But the minute you have the balls to do it, have a drink if you have to.

I don't know, do whatever the hell.

It's so liberating.

It's so liberating.

The first time it's hard.

Maybe the second time, but once you start doing it, you're like, you know what?

It feels so good

to tell the person who I am what I want it's so much easier to live your life without lies or even without hiding like who you are you know it makes for better sex it makes for better anything like even if you just want to go out for a walk if you tell the person the truth I don't like to walk, leave me the fuck alone, I want to sleep longer.

If you just tell each other, like if you're in the same vibe, I'm not kidding you, it's a whole new life out there, you know?

See, that's one thing I do have.

That's the NGT factor, you know, not giving a fuck.

Like, if I think

if I want something from you, like in the bedroom or whatever, I'm going to say it.

I'm going to say it.

Good for you.

Sometimes it may sound creepy.

Sometimes it may sound, oh, what an asshole she is, you know.

But I'm going to say it, you know.

Although, what I noticed is that I do have a problem with empathy.

Because when you communicate, you need empathy for that person.

And I've realized I have a problem with that.

That may come from me being isolated for so long could be it could be

but I think eventually when of course you're gonna go out of your house you're gonna eventually you're gonna have a relationship when you connect with somebody that you care about like I like this person I want to be with this guy I think mentally you're gonna feel different because we are all humans so if we meet someone and we feel like I don't really care about that person I don't feel the mental connection yeah of course you're not gonna care but when you start like you know having feelings or dating them for a few days, you're like, oh, this is really good.

I like the sex, and if I communicate with them, it's gonna get better and better and better.

In your mind, you're gonna feel, I need to invest my mind into this.

You know, it's like it's something that you're only gonna feel the right person, I guess.

Although, you know, I sometimes scare myself because, like, there's two things that a guy can easily manipulate me with.

If he's good-looking, and if the sex is good, and then he makes me food after, of course,

I'm just, I'm done.

I'm done.

I think a lot of us are like that.

I think to me, another good looking, but yeah, if the sex is great and he's my guy, I agree.

Who doesn't like food after?

I know, I know.

A guy that could bonus, bonus, bonus points for a guy that cooks for sure, right?

Any day.

And another

guy that likes to eat because I think food and drinks are such foreplay.

It's good to eat before.

It's good to enjoy dessert after.

You know, I think

I would never date a vegetarian, for example.

I would never date like some crazy asshole that wants to be skinnier than me or that doesn't enjoy food because I think it's such a big part of life.

Do you know how you can tell if a guy is a vegan?

How?

He tells you.

Yeah, exactly.

There you go.

I would not even go out to the vegan.

I would advise these people.

I don't advise people, but I would include food in your date.

Yes.

When there's food involved,

we feel better.

Demoted.

Always, yes.

The worst thing you want to do is go to a movie without food and look at the movie.

You're not communicating with a person and you're not sharing a meal, which has a traditional value to it.

Just look at that a movie and then you go home.

I never, I don't think I ever did that.

I don't think I've ever been in a movie theater in my life without my popcorn, at least, and my soda, sometimes more.

Yeah.

Doesn't help.

Okay, now, before we run out of time, because I have a lot of questions, questions, but I want to go back a little bit because this is, we make a lot of fun of everything, but this is kind of serious and it's important.

And we always, if we can help somebody out there listening, I think it's more bonus points for us.

But you were addicted to video games and you were addicted to porn.

Can you share a little bit how were you able to recover?

Was it hard?

Was it easy?

Do you have any tips?

Okay, so if you are looking to recover, and this goes for any addiction, the first thing you need to know is it's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done in your entire life.

Ever, ever.

And I had a very interesting way of recovering.

I don't know if this works for everyone, but it worked for me.

I feel like when it comes to addiction, the harder it is, the more chances you have of permanently getting rid of addiction.

What I did was, okay, so addiction is a compensation for a need that you have, right?

Because when you ask people, what does your addiction give you?

They're going to tell you all positive things well it takes away anxiety it takes away stress it cures my depression it gives me something to do it makes me braver right so these are positive things so obviously addiction is serving a purpose yes right and then you have to realize what

what is being compensated for what i did was when i had my urges to go play video games or to go watch porn or whatever i sat still almost like a meditation type of practice and I was watching myself what

what's going to come up you know in a way that I was actually very interested almost like a third person watching me and everything popped up all the emotions anxiety everything that I was putting down for decades you know well decades for a decade was popping up you know because Before, with addiction, I was numbing it.

You know, you're numbing the pain.

Yes.

1 million percent.

And now

yeah, and now you don't have your pain, you're numbing some kind of pain,

yeah,

that's right, and now you're feeling life.

So, the only way to get through addiction is to witness those feelings, those are essentially your demons, and they're coming out now because there's no anesthesia anymore, and they burn, and when they burn, it fucking hurts.

Oh, yeah, just sitting there witnessing them, yeah.

And what you do is you say, you sit still, you go through it, and they're gonna stop burning at one point.

Now, know i did a lot of meditation practice a lot of it and at one point

it hurt until it didn't anymore that's great

that's great advice i lost my husband to alcoholism he was an alcoholic and and like you said and towards the end he didn't want to get cured he literally said i want to die i want to die and there's nothing worse than losing someone to addiction because you feel powerless you're like i couldn't save that person it's my fault it almost kills me, almost killed me, almost kills the person with the addict, you know.

So, it's very, very tough.

So, what I say is: if anybody out there, if you have an addiction to porn, to anything, anything that controls you

is a bad idea.

You should have control over the porn, you should have control over the alcohol, you should have control over everything that you decide to do and use.

But if some you feel something is controlling you, get help, right?

Get help, call someone, watch videos.

Yes, meditate.

There are so many free available services online, but don't let that consume your life to the point of no return.

Because, unfortunately to a lot of people, you get to the point of no return.

Unfortunately, hopefully, anybody out there listening, they find help like you did.

I was very close to that point of no return, I believe.

I was playing video games about 33 hours a day.

Wow.

And yeah, and that's

a quarter.

I just didn't care anymore.

Oh my god.

I didn't care.

Wow.

That's incredible.

And how long has it been that you stopped?

Now it's been six years.

Wow, congratulations.

Seven years?

That's amazing.

Thank you.

That's amazing.

Do you live by yourself?

Yes.

How are the Slovenian men?

Are they like hot?

You told me they're liberal with sex, so I already like that.

But how are they like in terms of dating?

They're pretty hot, but they're not as hot as Brazilian men.

You know, I don't like Brazilian men because

I dated one Brazilian guy.

It was my longest relationship after my husband died, and it ended up in a total disaster, total chaos.

The whole story is there in season one, but basically, he was cheating on me, living a double life, cheated on me on my birthday.

Total asshole.

So I think I'm a little traumatized by it.

I don't know if I want to date another Brazilian guy, honestly.

Oh, that's more for me.

Yeah, you can have them.

You can have them.

Now we're almost out of time but you told me you want to move to the United States.

I would love to that is so exciting.

Right now I can't even visit the United States because I'm not vaccinated.

Seriously?

I think they already already dropped

the travel ban.

Oh really?

Oh yeah.

My friend is like shaking the head.

Yes.

If anybody knows I'm going to drop the podcast, text us.

But I'm pretty sure.

I mean, I don't know why you're not vaccinated, but I'm pretty sure you can travel, you can come in.

I don't think they ask for the vaccine certificate anymore.

All right, I'm coming then.

Yes, well, you have an open invitation to come to LA if you want to come visit.

I've been to LA too, by the way.

Oh, yeah, you told me you've been here before, right?

Like on vacation,

yeah, but I only loved uh, I was in uh, what is it called?

Tanzana, is it something like that?

Tarzana, Tarzana, yeah, I stayed there at the Airbnb.

Why, yeah, I don't know.

I just got there.

I just got there.

And that part I really didn't like.

Because it's the suburbs, there is nothing going on there.

I don't know.

I don't want to offend.

I don't know.

It's just a lot of people.

No, yeah.

I don't want to offend the people in Tarzana, but like I live in Beverly Hills.

It's very close to us.

Hollywood.

It's close to the beach.

It's close to Malibu, Santa Monica.

So there's like so many fun things going on.

So you definitely have an open invitation.

I ruined my experience by going to Tarzana.

Yes, you definitely picked the wrong one, but now you have a friend here, so I'll give you pointers.

And then we'll do another podcast when you're here.

You're amazing.

Thank you so much.

Well, likewise.

Thank you.

This was so much fun.

I mean, we have to do another one soon because we didn't even like tap the surface of we need to talk about the differences in culture, in dating, and everything.

There are so many more questions.

We're going to have to do part two.

Now, really quickly, you talked about Tinder.

Do you guys use other dating apps there, or Tinder is number one?

Do you use Bumble?

Do you use do you have Hinge?

We do have Bumble.

It's not as popular.

We see it.

A friend of mine told me about it, but I'm on there for

BFF or something.

What is that option?

To find best friends?

I think BFF is like if you don't want to date, if you want to have friends.

I never did that option.

We like Bumble here because it's a little better quality of people than Tinder, but the woman has to say hi first, right?

Like, hi, how are you doing?

So, in general, most girls here prefer bumbo.

And you see, a little bit nice, like Tinder, like maybe for you, Tinder would be better if you just want to hook up, have fun, you know, have quick sex, meet hot guys.

Bumble, you find like more older people, more mature people.

You find men that actually want relationships, so it's a little bit of a different crowd.

To me, honestly, they all suck.

I don't have a lot of patience for them, but whatever.

And you have to pay for bumble, right?

I don't pay.

I i don't i don't pay they keep saying pay pay pay you're gonna be show more you're gonna get i'm like fuck it i don't i'm not even that i'm not that desperate to date i was in a relationship for four months with a guy that i met on bumble

and that i really liked and it ended up not working out so now i'm like very gun shy now i'm like totally taking my time i'm being crazy crazy crazy crazy picky so we'll see we shall see it's it's the only way to go we have to talk about your dating stories on my podcast yes 1 million percent.

Let's do that.

It would be my huge pleasure.

But you do.

Well, but you have other stories that we got to talk about.

You're virtual.

I want to do like a whole episode about your virtual life because I'm sure you have like a million fun stories.

Or travel stories.

Yes.

By the way, I've been robbed in Sao Paulo.

Oh, well, I'm not surprised about that.

That's one of the main reasons why I don't like going down to Brazil as much as my mom was from Brazil, my culture and everything.

I was born there, but I don't like because I've been robbed there too.

I had a horrible experience there.

So every time I go there, it's like it happened yesterday.

I definitely have PST.

I'm very traumatized, and I don't like the idea of being in a place that you can get robbed at gunpoint.

So

it was pretty, yeah, it was weird.

And then I got shackled on my way back because I thought I was smuggling cocaine.

Oh my god.

Poor baby.

We need to improve your travel experiences.

I'm not a safe person.

Yes, you are.

Well, you're safe next time you come here.

Okay, I'll take good care of you.

You're not going to go to Tarzana.

I'll hook you up with all the cool places, all the hot guys.

I'll introduce you.

I'm a million percent sure all my guy friends will love and adore you, so don't worry, I'll hook you up.

You got any black friends?

Like the black man?

Here in LA, I don't think so.

Not here in LA.

Whatever.

all right white is good enough because because you're you you like the hot the black oh i do i do i do i have one super hot friend who is a basketball player yeah i'm sure he's gonna love you i did not go out with him oh that's a whole other episode but he's so young he's so young when we met he was 19 and i was like

now he's 22 but when he was 19 i was like and he wanted to go out with me like no i i feel guilty i don't you're hot as fuck, but I would fuck your dad.

But unfortunately, you're because they're both really famous basketball players.

I'm not gonna say their name.

I'm like, I have the hots for your dad, but your dad is married, so okay, good.

But I don't have, I can't go out with you.

And he was like, Why not?

Why not?

That's so stupid.

You're looking at the age.

No, no, no, no, you're so hot.

I'm like, I know, I'm really hot.

I know I look really good for my age, but I felt like a 19-year-old.

And then now, every year I look at him, I'm like, huh, let me think about it.

Let me think about it.

You're like on the maybe.

You're like on the maybe pile.

Maybe if I get too horny and I'm like too tired of my vibrators,

I'll debate it.

But I know if I show a picture of you to him, he'd be like, oh, yes, when is she flying in?

So I'll hook you guys up.

His dad is super well married to a very famous celebrity, so we don't want to go there.

How old are you by the way?

I'm 50.

I know I'm a very proud 50 year old.

Very proud.

What's the secret?

What's the secret?

A lot of sex, a lot of sex, a lot of water and I think just being happy and grateful because this is what I think

a lot of women are terrified of aging.

They start lying about their age.

They're like, oh my god, oh my god, like the number, the number, the number.

And I actually embrace it.

I love every year of my life.

I think I'm living my best life now.

I've been through hell and high water.

I was married to an abusive alcoholic for 15 years.

I've been through everything you can think of.

So, and I love taking care of myself.

I think it's fun, like running with my dog, you know, just having a healthy lifestyle.

I think it's about self-love.

And I, again, I tell girls that all the time on the podcast, you should age is mental.

Our mind controls our body.

If you decide you're going to be an old person in your mind, I promise you, you're going to become an old person.

If you decide I'm hot, I'm sexy, I'm young, I have tons of energy.

I never have met a man that can actually keep up.

I have met men that...

almost keep up or yeah keep up okay but i all my guys they say wow yeah you do love a lot of sex wow you do have so i think it's all about how you decide to live your life you know and embrace it we're alive my god you know life has been

it's a privilege yeah

look there is no guarantees there are no guarantees and I tell you like when you're 27 and you make plans and you make plans and you make plans and I cannot stand when people use that phrase to me like many times I meet guys or something and they say that phrase you know like oh I'm not ready.

I'm not ready for another relationship.

I'm not ready.

And I'm like, who, what the fuck do you think that life is gonna wait for you to be ready?

Like, you, regardless of your age, you need to live your life like today,

whatever the hell it is that you want to do, whatever it is.

Like, if you have a dream, if you want to travel, if you want to fuck, if you want to do it today,

because you don't know, like, tomorrow, like, look at COVID.

If somebody told us three years ago, the country is going to be on lockdown.

Nobody's going to be able to get out of your house.

There is going to be this vibe.

We would have left and said, yeah, right.

Are you crazy?

This is a sci-fi movie.

What the fuck are you talking about?

So, I mean, that's how crazy life is, you know.

And

I think you need to appreciate it and just live life today.

I have friends of all ages.

I get along with people of all age groups because I think in my mind I am so much younger and in many ways more immature than many you know because I was married for so long I'm learning how to date now I'm having the best sex of my life with the partners that I choose now

you know they say women women's sexual peak is at 30 40 50 and men's sexual peak is at 80 to me it wasn't to me honestly wasn't because I had really lame sex during my marriage and then after my marriage yeah because it was really it really sucked I was embarrassed to say what I wanted.

My husband was super conservative.

Then I had, then the same thing.

I was dating, dating, dating.

Finally, like you said, one day I woke up and I said, I'm going to open my mouth.

And whoever my guy is, I'm going to tell him I like a lot of it.

I like a lot of sex.

I love giving blowjobs.

It turns me on a lot.

Let me just give you as many blowjobs as I want.

I decided, I'm at a point in my life, I'm going to say everything that I like to do.

And that's...

And if you scared scared a man away well then I mean you don't want to have that man anyway exactly exactly I did a post about that on my Instagram a few days ago if I intimidate a man or any one of us by the way if we as women if you intimidate a guy that's the guy you don't want to have so don't be afraid to be yourself tell them everything what like you said oh I'm antisocial I was an addict this is my issue Tell the guy everything because if he likes you, he's gonna like all of you, the flaws, the good things, the bad, because none of us is perfect.

I don't even like that word.

Like, if somebody tells you they have the perfect life, or if nobody's perfect, we have wonderful things and bad things.

But if you tell your partner the truth, at least it's the foundation, right?

The truth sets you free.

It's the foundation to make anything worthwhile happen.

And I guess that's how I live my life.

And I think it translates in my energy and the way I look.

And I like the way I look.

I think I look pretty fucking good for a 50-year-old that works 16 hours a day,

has two dogs, 10 million jobs going on, and works seven days a week.

We like how you look too.

Thank you.

I really appreciate it.

This was amazing.

This was super fun.

I definitely want to have you back.

Let's do it.

Thanks so much for having me back.

Thank you.

And if you want to come to the United States, 1 million percent, send me a message and I'll hook you up here in LA.

Amazing!

This was Urshka all the way from Slovenia.

And I highly recommend you guys listen to her podcast because it's you're all right, it's filled with crazy, crazy, intelligent conversations.

Captain Es.

Captain East.

How did you find the name?

I tried Captain Jack, but I think it was taken at that time.

And then Captain East is a female version of Captain.

I love it.

I love it.

And I like how you did.

her logo is like this lion.

So half of the logo is the lion, half of the logo is your face.

Super, super awesome.

You're a lot of fun.

Thank you so much.

This was a great cat on the left.

And I ended up like spilling the beans about my life a little bit.

See how it is?

It's crazy, right?

This was a really fun Cat on the Lose episode for your Friday.

I hope you guys have an amazing weekend.

Have lots of sex.

1 million percent.

Go have sex.

It keeps your skin looking really, really good.

It does, it does.

I'll see you soon.