MARRIAGE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THIS HOT

Hi guys, welcome to Cat on the Loose.

I'm here with a couple, married couple.

And this is a very special interview to me because I know most married couples out there, especially married after so long.

You guys have been married for 14 years, right?

Actually, we've been together for

13 years, married six.

Yeah, we've been married six, almost seven years.

Okay, but you've been together for like 14 years.

That's a long time.

And we, let's be honest, we know most married couples, after a a few years everybody says the same thing oh it loses its magic you know sex gets boring uh whatever it's a cheat yeah

everybody knows i think i was in a marriage for 14 years and my marriage sucked we barely had sex there was no romance so i want to start by asking you guys because not only you're married but you are crazy happily married and when i see you i love the vibe that I feel like you guys are like on the second date.

We try to keep it fresh as much as we can.

But I know, and that's amazing.

But can you tell specific to help people out there?

Like, because everybody says, Oh, we're happy, we just don't know.

Give people an example.

What do you do to keep it so cool and so spicy and so great?

So, I'm gonna just cut it to the chase.

We had the infidelity early on in our relationship, and we had a lot of hard things that we had to get through together.

And that made us so strong as a couple that we

make

each other.

Like, we know, and when we look at each other and we talk about things together, like we know that we've already done the hardest things that we could go through.

And so

we know

that we love each other and we've gone through the hardest things in our lives that we could go through.

And

then I also say, baby, you want to go do something fun with somebody else?

We do it together.

And that it's bad.

Yeah.

So this is the part I love.

I think it's all about communication, right?

Exactly.

But it's the hardest thing probably for most couples.

Like instead of doing something behind the person's back, you guys, whatever happened in the beginning, you decided to tell each other the truth and just move on from that yeah life is to

you get one life and it's you gotta

enjoy yourself

and decide who you want to be with and make that commitment and you stick with it and it's not for everyone i i get that what is not for everyone i mean i we talk about like what we have and you know

fucking pillow talk or whatever you want to call it like what we have is special yeah and uh like why don't other people have it like this and And I don't know.

I guess we're lucky.

We're best friends before

anything else.

I mean, we're

completely transparent, 100%.

Like, we know couples that don't even know each other's passcodes for their phone.

Like, we have our bank accounts.

Yeah, like couples that have

separate bank accounts.

Everything we have is completely together.

There's nothing actually.

It's 1 million percent trust.

Yeah, yesterday we were talking about, I think it's super cute that you guys, I know you don't care about social media, but I think it's really cute how she set up the social media.

It's both of your names there.

It's like when we see a picture, it's like you choose like a unity.

And I think that's adorable.

But so if there's a couple out there listening,

what do you suggest?

Like 100% transparency?

Yeah, be honest.

Yeah, and that's okay.

I mean, not everybody.

He just is just bad at doing like social media type of stuff.

And that's okay.

Right.

But I think that just being honest, like,

and and then you just have to not be as jealous.

I think that jealous and insecurities really get in people's heads and in the way in men and women.

For sure.

Because if you could just stop being insecure and stop being jealous and trust your partner and you guys just...

throw it all out there every day and you talk about it you won't have the problems later maybe people get jealous because of the fact that they don't know if the other person is lying to them, like doing something behind their back.

And also, you know what?

We do another thing about us that's I don't know if unique if that's the right word, but we do

like we never go out separately.

Everything we do, we do together.

We don't even put ourselves in the situation to like

have situation.

Yeah, have situation.

No, that's not even plus to me.

Yeah, when we do go out, we always want to be with.

I never want to go out anywhere and hang out without her with me.

Same with her.

I love that.

We do everything together.

All our friends are

mutual friends.

It's never been to, like, I'm going to go hang out with my friend today.

Bye.

That's never happened.

That's awesome.

That's not

in our after 14 years.

How do you guys keep the sex so great and so spicy?

Because that is the number one complaint of maybe.

Even married couples are like couples that are dating for a long time.

Cornhub.com.

No, we're just, I don't know.

Maybe our

fice itself.

I'm kidding.

No, that's not.

No, watch a little porn or no.

We just, you know, we make it a very big point.

Or maybe we just have high sex drives.

No,

I

make it a point.

It's been a struggle because it's not always been easy.

That if we are not at least having sex during the weekend, then we're, then we're in trouble.

Yeah, guys, we have

every single weekend, multiple times.

I get it, you're tired after work,

and everybody's tired after work.

And maybe I want it, but I'll wait.

At least for you, it works that like during the week, you kind of chill and you work and you do your thing.

Yeah, and then weekends is like your time,

4 a.m.

I'm working the rest of

so Saturday and Sunday are your sex days.

Yeah, Saturday morning.

I'm because I'm used to waking up like three o'clock in the morning.

So, four o'clock in the morning, I'm already like, I'm already like bugging her.

So, there, I think that's a good idea.

Kind of like it takes the pressure away from like during the week.

Yeah, you don't expect it.

I don't

mind it.

You wouldn't mind it.

Like, if he's tired, then he does.

Do you guys ever break the rule?

Do you ever have sex?

I try once in a while if I'm really frisky and I'm like, I need it now.

But I don't know.

Do you get hurt if he says, I'm tired?

No.

No, because I am tired.

He works really hard and

I wouldn't want it to be where.

I got to be in top shape.

But I also wouldn't want it to be like, oh, I made him stay up a few extra hours.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He got me off and then he crashed his car the next morning.

That would be like, yeah.

So I think about

would you say that in my eulogy?

You wait until Saturday.

I should have waited.

My husband hit the car and had an accident because

we had Wednesday sex and he died on Thursday.

Oh my God.

Like, you kept him up for four hours.

Shut up, mom wood, please.

There's no wood.

Now, it must be fun also if you don't have sights the whole week, waiting in anticipation for Saturday morning.

I guess it's kind of our routine.

Plus, I mean, we slept.

How about Friday night?

It depends.

It depends okay so here's if i have it before he eats yes i'm a thing uh you eat to get food and you want to go to sleep if i have a full stomach

this is how men are i know i just found out about that when you have a really like i have a big steak dinner all the food is in your stomach then the the blood doesn't yeah to me i gotta

it's really important to be able to do it right properly it's funny how men are wired different because i think it's not about wiring it whether you want to

i want to be fed and we fought we I

want to have sex before after with sweet steak in my tummy without steak in your mouth

like after a great dinner I go home like oh god that's the best for me exactly so but I realized that because the previous person that I was dating

It was the same thing like that person just like we have dinner like it's totally shut down let's go to sleep let's go somewhere else

so okay now I learned something at my age.

This is what we have to worry about.

If you girls want to have sex with your guy, have sex with a bad person.

Don't feed him a big fat dinner because

he's gonna go to bed and sleep.

But I love morning sex.

That's my job.

Right?

Or, like, you know, like really early in the morning, like five, six, oh, in the morning, then you turn around, then you sleep a little more.

Yes, right?

Yes.

Yeah, while I'm flat and faced in the bed, just come up on behind.

Surprise and wake you up.

Surprise me.

That's that's really good, right?

Good stuff.

Okay, but still,

you guys gave one idea.

Plan sex dates.

Like if you're married, if you're in a relationship, I love that idea.

I think it's great.

It's a conference.

It's not kind of planned, just kind of happen that way.

I guess I said plan because, like, for you guys, you decided the weekend is our time together.

Any other suggestions that a couple could do to spice up, to continue the flame and spice up the sex life?

I think it really depends on the woman.

Like, what does the woman like?

Does she like other women?

Does she like, does she like dressing up?

Does she like having

maybe a menage tois?

Does she want to,

I mean, and then also it depends on the husband or the boyfriend.

What is his insecurities and what are not his insecurities?

You need to like figure that stuff out together and then decide

to go for it to go for it that's an old thing yeah and we don't do things like that very often it's a couple times a year but you know it the thought and the option is always there so it's kind of fun just to think about it sometimes and it's so let's delve into that for a minute because again for most couples married or dating whatever it's huge taboo we all know that and i agree with you guys i think the more open you are to communicating what your dreams and your fantasies and your desires are, much bigger chances that you guys are going to have a hot sex life.

So, in your case, you guys are super open about telling each other, like, this is what I like.

Every once in a while, let's do a threesome.

Let's bring somebody else in the bedroom, right?

Okay, in honesty, you just

continue with honesty and you just

keep the communication open.

Yeah, like don't stop that.

That's some key.

I think

that is what saves relationships.

Yeah, I agree.

Just be open.

Be honest.

And

she is natural bisexual.

She's totally attracted to women.

So I can't

have her stop that.

That's her natural.

So she's been like that.

This is getting better, man.

So when you met her, when you met her,

she told you, I'm bisexual.

Did you ever ever date women before you met him?

Not date.

Not date, but we've

got to be aware of that.

Well, actually, yeah, there was a lot of people.

She's kind of like, maybe.

I mean, I've had situationships.

Situationships with women.

With women.

Yes, I've had a few situationships.

And,

you know,

that's a great way to.

Sometimes you'll go to bed and I'll be in there with my.

I have a main girlfriend.

to this day you do I mean in a sense yeah okay and not like a girl but just

a girl that you like to bring into the bedroom with you guys sometimes yeah

and then he'll go to the other room because

if I'm tired I'm exhausted it's not it'll be a Friday

it's not and he'll go and I'll just you just play with her yeah and I'm okay with that

and if I'm exhausted or if I've I'm just tired um it's not like it's something that's never happened so it's nothing like

for you guys it's not like but

what I love about it is like you said you do it with each other.

My message always is talk about it.

And in especially the American culture is a huge taboo.

I have married girlfriends that they're like oh my god do you do treason?

I can't believe

who cares, right?

If it spices up your relationship, if it makes your man happy, if it's something that's gonna keep the flame alive, like you said, what's the freaking, you're doing it in your house, you're doing it with your husband or with your husband's knowledge.

What's the big it's somebody interested in?

And it's not even about keeping me up.

She's into it.

So it's

if she's happy, you're happy, right?

He's very happy.

I'm very happy.

And also for relationships, and

I know more than one couple that,

like me and her, our phone passwords are the same fucking password.

I do not not i can't even comprehend how someone can be married to someone yeah and not even and have and have that kind of a secret and not have each other's phone passwords like our phone is like whatever phone is closer is the one i grab and there's absolutely nothing that i have to hide from my phone or she has to hide you have to that's the number one thing have access to each other's phones then that takes a lot of the the mystery and and i agree because everything

everything shady that's gonna happen is gonna be be happening on my phone

if you're a boyfriend i had the one long relationship i had after my husband died the whole star is on season one on my podcast i should it was the red flag because i was dating this guy for over a year

and like when we were having dinner

he would literally put his phone like facing down so you couldn't see literally anybody with he was like obsessed with that phone i should have thought and sure enough red flags he was

totally more than cheating on me he was having like this double life dating me and somebody

listened to that podcast.

And I agree with you because now, like I said, I'm getting pickier and pickier and pickier because I think next because I am super open.

Like my life is literally an open podcast, an open book.

If anybody wants to look at my phone, I go for it.

I don't have any secrets.

I don't like to people.

I agree with you guys.

You don't have any pictures that it's not

naked?

And if you see those pictures, I don't have naked pictures.

And it was somebody that you were dating prior

then why would you be up?

I don't have pictures of other like when I'm dating one man, my attention is 100% on that man.

Yeah, I don't go like, oh, you, you, like I said, I don't jump dick.

That's like my expression.

I know a lot of girls.

I'm seeing that.

I'm noticing that.

People have the

same thing.

You're very actually

anti-jumping dick.

Yes.

Jumping dick.

You're the most.

Not anti-dick.

I'm not anti-dick.

No, let's fix this mess.

I love a good dick, please, and I miss it so much.

It's been like over a month.

Cheat yourself, but cheat yourself, don't cheat yourself.

Exactly.

But she's cheating herself by

being particular and not

going for the red flag.

I respect that.

She's trying to excel the red flag.

Yes, I'm crazy picky.

Like the next time I

do, of course, I want to have sex, but I'm just picky about who I want in my life.

Because body flags

You want to have

no red flags.

Yeah, exactly.

But but going back to the phone, I agree.

There is no reason in the world if you're having an open relationship that's number one.

That's the number one red flag.

These freaking phones cause so many troubles in marriages.

It's not even funny.

There's absolutely, if you have a healthy marriage, there's absolutely no reason why both people can't.

And another thing I'm going to say to you guys, because this is something that I get a lot of messages from, especially women out there, some guys too if you meet each other on bumble on tinder whatever the hell it is great because it's a nowadays it's not the number one place to meet people but if you start dating the person be a fucking gentleman and like if you don't want to delete your account like disable your account block your account for a while because you know what happens a lot like this person is dating and then

the girlfriend like you scroll and you see my man still fishing god yeah that would be horrible like fishing for all

out of it.

It's yeah, no, I'm not saying you guys, but I know no, no, but I'm like a lot of couples out there.

I have a lot of questions about that whole uh yeah, online dating and social media and all that.

It's so weird talking about this.

He has a lot of questions, it's just so so foreign to me.

It's like fucked up.

Let's just be blunt.

Like, I find

do people still like meet organically?

And, and, but even if we, even when we meet like a fun person at like like at a party or something, it's always like social media exchange.

Oh, give me your Instagram.

Because nowadays it's a business card of the future.

Like 10, 15 years ago, when we meet, people would say, oh, here's your business card.

And nowadays,

let me see.

Yeah, well, but most people,

because that's another thing, too.

It's harder to lie.

Yeah.

Because if you say, oh, I'm so and so, so, so, okay, let me see your LinkedIn.

Yeah, let me see your Instagram.

Exactly.

That makes sense.

And that's what I would do.

That's how I do it.

I don't have I don't we have a we have a joint Instagram thing, but it's yeah, literally only one on there is friends and family.

There's no one on there that we haven't personally but that's fine.

So okay, let me ask you a question.

Yeah, let me ask you what.

So if you were to meet me, let's say I was a single person, I had zero social media.

Okay.

How, and you thought I was an expert?

It happens a lot.

Like the men I go out with.

They have zero social media.

Yeah, a lot of them, like the most successful people are crazy private.

The wealthiest man.

But they say, look, I don't have social media, but this is my name, John Smith.

And this is where I work.

I know.

So and so.

Yeah.

And I have LinkedIn, or you can see my company's website.

There's always something.

If the person is not lying, like there is no reason why they, everybody has something, something.

And if you have zero, there's something where you don't have a job, your company doesn't have a website, you know.

Like my dad's a bad sign.

He doesn't have any social media, but your dad, but he can say, Okay, I'm the owner of Tata Tata Company.

Oh, you can look on the franchise dashboard website.

He can say, Look, I don't do social media, I'm super private, I have this very successful business.

That's the name of it.

He's just but if you google, then if you google the name of the business and his name, oh, yeah, this guy is telling me the truth.

So, it's a normal thing to do background checks on people, like when we met, I didn't do a background check on her.

I don't think she's a background check.

You'd be scared if you did.

But wait a second,

FBI background check.

I know.

I know.

But wait a second.

It's different.

When we're talking about, like, if you meet somebody on bump or tinder or something, there is a lot of cat fishing.

There is a ton of catfishing.

That's someone pretending to be someone.

Yeah.

Or

they use my pictures and they're not me.

You know, or a guy.

It happens all the time.

So for me, and I tell everybody, that's my opinion.

Don't, and men completely.

You want to be very fucking a restaurant and she said, well, why don't you just do your

due diligence?

So, I

am going to be.

I'm not going to waste my time.

I'm not going to go out to somebody unless I know like 100%.

I am going to be honest.

We are on a dating app and it's called Three-Way.

And I

never heard of it.

Wait, it's called Three-Way.

Three-way.

It's for couples.

Yeah.

It's three fun.

Let me see.

And it's for people that want to do

it.

That want to meet other couples, or you want to meet a unicorn, which a unicorn means you want to meet uh a woman that wants to have a wonderful time with a couple like your girlfriend why is it a unicorn i don't know honestly

honestly i don't know i'm just referring to the term i heard the term but i didn't know what it was yeah it's actually so unicorn from what i and i wish if i was single I would be a fucking unicorn because you go out with different couples and you get like, you just get like, you have a good time and you get all the good parts of it of the couple okay then you leave and then you leave the next morning and you're like peace is there any is there any male unicorns

there is yeah do you want to see them no i'm good baby no so that whole thing say the name of the the app is called three fun three fun

we've chatted with people oh we've but it's so but we it's hard to find quality people on this app every every every it's like finding a diamond in the sky so i felt like i was on tinder like and i've never been on tinder but you know there are couples on tinder in bumble looking for people so you guys can watch the streamline

we're good we're good we're good

no but sometimes we want a little space you know like she's like no we're not we're okay i'll be on there

just for fun we like scroll around and stuff and

and it's it never amounts to anything it's just we just

it's more the idea and that's another thing too that's also the more the idea most men and i tell that to my girl because they think i'm crazy but but I swear to God, men are like kids.

Most men don't even want to do certain things, it's just the idea.

The idea

is you can't tell them.

Like, if I'm dating a guy, it's like, Would you do a threesome?

Like, yeah, sure.

99% of the time, it doesn't even happen.

He wouldn't know what to do with it.

The idea that, oh, my girl would do that for me.

So, I tell a lot of girls are like, so, oh, I would never let my boyfriend go to a strip club.

Like, why not?

You know what my girl would say?

If I went to a strip club and didn't bring her, she'd be pissed.

She'd be like, what do you mean you went to a strip club without me?

Hey, listen, I like it sometimes as much.

I'm not sure.

Although we know what?

We've never been to one together.

Although we've never been together.

Well, you guys are coming.

We've talked about that.

By the way, okay, we're plugging in my episode.

We're going to do an episode live from the Sapphire.

Oh, yeah.

Swimming Pool, The Sapphire is the most famous strip club in Vegas.

We are going to be doing a live episode

on the 24th.

It's going to be so much fun because you guys are going to be there.

We're going to have a super cool group of friends.

And I tell you guys one thing.

I haven't been to a strip club in years, but I used to go with my husband.

And I like looking at beautiful girls.

I love it.

I like looking at beautiful girls.

I want to see a nice, beautiful ass.

Yeah, exactly.

Good job.

I'm not bisexual and I was never attracted to women, but I like seeing beautiful people in general.

Admired.

He slices it up.

If, like, you go home and your guy's hornier because he's what is the freaking problem?

No problem.

I think people are like maybe a little too uptight about especially in this country.

I think

the American, no, European people are broken.

And you guys have talked about that on your podcast.

Yes, we have because, yeah, I interviewed my friend Amanda, yeah.

Because in Sweden, like I said,

Swedish people, like she was saying in a previous episode, when you go on the first date, that's how they think, well, let's have sex first, see if we have chemistry before we waste our time, before I buy food, yeah.

Yeah, here, if you have sex on the first date, they're like, oh, she's a flower, she does that to everybody, she everybody on first day yeah she i had sex on second dates and it backfired on me yeah and i thought you know and well can't we just be european already i know well we are i'm gonna take a two minute break and we'll be right back and and let's set this thing on fire you guys are behaving too much really i'm gonna ask some tougher questions

i wish i could see their cute faces they like have these little smiles i just thought we were we just they have the faces of people that today's sunday we have we had a lot sunday was yesterday yesterday.

The sun got my face.

We drank a lot last night.

We had so much fun.

But you guys have the faces that you woke up and had great sex.

And I have the face.

I'm going to start having pimples soon because, you know, if you don't have sex, it's really bad for the skin.

You'll be fine.

Botox doesn't give you female.

You can't give the under things.

I could have.

I didn't know sex cure pimples.

Oh, yeah.

Sex gives you fan.

Look at my skin.

It's a lot of fun.

I don't know pimples.

But I'm starting to get bad skin.

Yeah.

We'll be right back.

Okay, I'm back with my favorite married couple on the planet.

You guys really inspire me because I swear to God, if I ever get married, or even if I don't get married, but next time I have a relationship, I insist and demand on having great, fantastic sex forever because I think everybody deserves that.

And you guys are like, and you know, this is what's funny.

I've interviewed married people before, and many times their excuse is, oh, we're so busy, having sex is not a priority anymore.

I'm so tired and you guys are living proof that that's baloney right you carve out baloney if you're not fucking me every weekend then you're at 86

yeah we work like 75 hour weeks both of us and we

fuck me every weekend or you're dead

and the great thing about you guys is that you're super open-minded about sex and about what you like and you experiment so let's talk about experimenting for a little bit because I get a lot of questions about that, believe it or not.

Because people think I do everything.

Well, maybe you should be.

You can live by curiously, too.

Yeah, you can live vicariously.

So,

you said you have a girlfriend and you bring into the bed.

Is it always the same, or sometimes you bring somebody else?

I have

a couple girls.

I have a couple girls that I regularly see.

And one of them I truly love, both of them I truly love.

One of them is more

like

a really good best friend, girlfriend.

And then we like to, you know,

have a little double dildo once in a while.

Okay, so do you go to bed with both of them sometimes?

Yes.

So you fuck both of them?

Yes.

And sometimes you don't.

Yes.

But I would say 80% of the times I'm.

So now I have another question because it's a huge fantasy for a lot of women out there, but very few have the balls to actually fulfill it.

My friend Amanda that I interviewed is the first one that admitted out loud.

Threesome's like one girl and two guys.

I never did it in my whole life.

I had the threesomes for my man and another woman many times.

We've done it once.

And I like,

did you ever do two men and her?

We've one time.

Two times.

No,

but then we also have a couple of people.

No, wait, wait.

We had a couple.

No, wait.

That's a whole other situation.

I'm asking

you and another guy and her.

Yeah, it happened once.

No, it happened twice, and it was hot as fuck.

Was it your...

Once.

What's the second one?

What's the second one every time?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Long time ago.

Okay, all right.

Wait, so okay.

Oh, actually, two different guys.

Was it your fantasy?

Or both of you?

It just seemed like more mine.

But how did you feel?

I turned him into it.

Did it turn you on to see somebody

fucking her?

It was more of like...

But it turns me on to see him fuck another woman.

Yeah, you see.

Slightly.

I like to see her get off, and

it was like...

You know, it's a very, very, very...

It's only happening.

It's occasional.

It's not.

It's happened like less than a handful of times.

That's fine.

But I'm saying it was, but it was, I was okay with it.

So when you saw the guy fucking her, you're like, that's fine, turn me on.

Aye, well, we were both kind of doing it.

Okay.

Do you want to

get into details?

Why not?

Why not?

He was busy.

We're both busy, and it was.

You were both fucking her at the same time.

Well, different.

Places.

Do you have a place?

I'm like a child.

I'm like a child, right?

Oh, it's summer.

I know, but

I'm going to do like pornhub.com

because I see what you guys are doing.

Oh, one in the mouth, one from behind.

You just kind of lay like until the button.

I wish you guys could see her face.

You put your butt up and then you put your mouth open and you just

go for it.

You just go for it.

So you guys did that and it was fun because a lot of women have this fantasy.

They're too embarrassed, afraid

of of telling their guy and the guy being mad at them.

They want a woman, second woman, and just be honest, maybe that's fun for you.

Exactly.

And

I wish I could have more.

But I'm very picky as far as that goes.

It's literally like.

There's been three guys in our relationship.

So you've allowed me.

Three different guys.

How do you do you go on a dating app and you pick somebody?

No, it's all been, it's all been kind of like,

and and really in the last 10 years it's it's

it's only been like there's only been one that was actually worked out really well i think and and

i i'm laughing because they make this face it's like

no but i'm being real it's it's it's it's

everyone everyone they can talk game but when it comes down you gotta put it down and if you don't have the dick to put it down then you're you don't have

the stamina then then it's tough

Yeah, sorry.

It's you really gotta.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm not trying to be braggy or whatever.

No, you can brag.

If you want to be with, like, you know, you want to do things like that, then you got to be

able to know what you're doing.

Yes, I agree.

If you're going to have more than two people in bed, you need to make everybody happy.

I almost feel bad for guys because they have to live up to these families.

Why do you feel bad?

Not really.

I'm sure it's everyone's every guy's fantasy to have like two girls.

But if you can't do it.

Let me break it down.

Prepare yourself.

Don't have a having you first.

Let me break it down.

All right.

Even if when it's just me and you having sex, the minute

we start having sex,

I can come in two seconds.

Yeah, you said that.

The whole thing is to be able to know your body.

Be able to...

Pace yourself.

Yeah.

Know how to hold back and be able to if you have two girls in bed You gotta

fucking half an hour at least, you know, it's like

know your body don't fucking get out of your fucking head

and be able to have a heavy meal beforehand

if anything maybe a shrimp

or else you can have your you can just feel like a you know, it's like hey we've we even I mean, we have sex all the time, but it's been like uh okay today for example, Jesus Christ, I

he stuck it it in, and it was like I barely lasted.

I was like a teenager, and I was like, sorry.

And I was like,

baby, and it happens sometimes.

And it's like, yeah, of course.

But

when you have two women in bed, you gotta like really

do it.

You gotta be like in a different headspace.

You gotta be like, all right, this is,

yeah.

Or else, I mean, just the excitement alone.

As soon as you start, it's gonna be over.

Yeah, so now moving on, you were saying, other than the three sums with girls and guys, you guys also did with like sex with another couple.

That's like swinging.

Yes.

Um, I don't know one couple, just one couple so far.

Yeah, but I was actually you guys were friends with her.

You picked up?

So I actually met her organically.

So

I met her at a gala for one of my see, she was hitting on me.

She was hitting on my husband.

Oh, nice.

And you know what?

I was like,

she was married with her husband there.

Yeah, so maybe they were swingers.

They are.

Yeah, there you go.

And I didn't know very much about this.

And that's who they introduced me to.

They

first night, it was only her.

But the first night, they got in a fight, and she came with us.

And we got a hotel and we had a hotel.

No, no, no, no.

That was to our house.

We know.

No, it was our house because we walked in.

I'm getting no, no, no, no.

But you were, you got on the phone.

Guys, it doesn't matter where it was.

We were on the phone, talking to her husband, and she started eating your pussy.

That was at our house.

That was at the Hilton.

No, No, no, that was at our house, babe.

Okay.

That was at our house.

The Hilton was the second thing.

There was no reason to hide about this.

Guys, it doesn't really matter where it was.

Can you tell the story of what happened?

That she was eating my pussy.

And

I was on the phone telling her husband, don't worry, she's fine.

She's in good hands.

You can go to sleep.

Yeah.

And then after that you guys had sex a far view yeah was it far no well he wasn't there that time that time but then on different other times yeah but he he didn't work out yeah he unfortunately he never made it happen so you didn't have sex we but he didn't we've been friends for a few years he couldn't get it up

he was having some problems he's a mill in the middle yeah so

because if you're gonna swing you gotta again you gotta be on top of your you gotta know how to two women.

You know, last year, guys.

And he's a chef.

He's yeah, don't give details.

Yeah, don't give details.

Last year, the very beginning of last year, I was doing season two of my podcast.

I think I interviewed a swinger.

This guy's like obsessed with swinging.

He's married.

His wife doesn't go anymore.

So he goes like every freaking night to the swingers club.

He doesn't seem like swinging if his wife's not with him.

No, but so he gets a partner, like a girlfriend or something, and goes.

So he convinced me to go to the swingers club with him in Miami of course curious me I have to go

like a kid I gotta go and try it out and it's super cool because it's like in in the front I don't know if you guys ever been to a swingers club not together in the front it's like a normal bar dance club

most people right

most people

are there just to look most people are not there to swing Most people just voice, especially women.

It's hilarious because like you sit on this couches talking to the couples and most girls are like, Oh, I came here just because my boyfriend wanted me to, but I'm just gonna look.

But you know, I tell you, what happened was we were sitting like on this.

There's a bunch of couches in front of the dance club.

Everybody's dressed, yeah, but like,

yeah, the guy was sitting here, and he put me on his lap

and like he lifted my skirt and he fucked me.

And what turned me on is that the entire club, everybody danced, the place, everybody was staring at me.

See, I like that.

And I didn't take my clothes off, we didn't swing, because if you you want to swing, no, no,

he's never going to take your

time.

But we have had sex in front of people at a party before.

We have done that back in the day.

Like when we first got together.

One time

we were at just like a get-together.

And we had...

We just

lifted up my dress in the bathroom.

Did people see?

And

they started, and then a crowd came.

Yeah.

And they were like so excited to watch you.

And then another girl came in.

She did.

she did.

She got under the counter, started eating my pussy while he was fucking me.

And then there was a crowd that came.

But this is just a house party.

This wasn't.

But see, that's the funny thing.

I didn't even know that I, because I had never done it.

I didn't, I didn't know it would turn me on.

I didn't know if I was going to be embarrassed or not.

And it was unplanned.

And I didn't even like this guy.

But it really turned me on to know that people.

And then when we finished,

the couple next to us, the guy was like, come here, honey, come on my laptop.

Yes, come on my laptop, baby.

So it was a fun experience.

I went back a bunch of times with him just like because I like the vibe.

And you end up meeting a lot of like super cool,

all walks of life.

But I ended up making great friends.

And one of the couples that I met there, they live in California.

So last month they sent me a message.

Oh, hi, Kat.

No, no, we saw on your social media that I want to see you move to California.

Yeah, so no, they invited me to go out with them, of course, because they really like me.

But I wasn't in the mood, I haven't seen them yet.

But it was an interesting experience because, again, a lot of people have this paranoia that it's going to be like horrible people, it's going to be so disgusting.

But it's not, you know, you meet the coolest, and most people go there not even to have sex because they're the people

that are insecure and they are insecure with their relationships.

You guys not involved.

It's called trapeze.

I know, but my whole secret is.

I'll be there for fun.

It's super fun.

My whole thing is

I'm a stickler for cleanliness.

Oh, yeah.

He's really worried about like

a lot of people.

Guys will do this.

Guys will tell you they have a punkana month halfway through a

skinny.

No, listen, I am obsessed with that.

And I'm dead as well.

That makes me

happy.

There's no one.

No one's going to taint anything.

No, but this is my happy place.

No one's going to.

But listen, I didn't say you like, again, you don't have to go back in.

Most people just

flirt and turn on, be turned off.

Yeah, but when we were there, we're probably fucking the middle of the room.

Yeah, you can.

Like I said, people do.

I did.

I did.

As long as you wear a condom.

No,

that's okay.

Well, not with me.

I did.

All the other girls you can sleep with.

But it was just like an interesting

experience for me.

I don't know if I would do it again, but I think it's fun to, you know, try new things and spice it up.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean, I know.

I would not do it again with that guy because I didn't like that guy.

I wasn't interested in him.

I don't want to be the swinger's date that is married to someone.

And his wife knows.

No.

And you already know he's married.

Yeah, no, and his wife knew.

I went with him every night.

It's just super cool because they made this decision.

But I didn't want to be in the middle of that.

But it's still probably fun to go.

I would go with my men.

Like, if I was dating someone and my guy said, Let's try it.

You know what I mean?

I want to try anything, but with like in a cup as a couple, yeah, I would say,

people that are into that whole swinger lifestyle, they're like really, yeah, we're

we're not into that thing.

I think people that are into it are that's like their life, they're really like it.

Depends, like, some people, like you guys, you did it a few times, not everybody does it all the time.

Some people just and what we're talking about right now, we're basically doing like a recap of something that's happened over like a decade.

Yeah, of course.

It's not a common thing.

It's a once-in-a-while thing, but just the thought option that it's there

possible keeps.

I don't know if that's what keeps.

I'm not saying that's the secret to the successful relationship.

But I mean, most of the time it's like I'm perfectly happy just

with her.

What we're saying is keep your options open.

It doesn't mean you're going to do crazy shit every weekend, but if you're open-minded about it, I agree with you guys.

It really helps the relationship.

Keep going.

But would you be mad at me if I said, babe, I want to bring home this dude and I don't really want to get fucked by him?

Would you be

okay with that?

No,

it's got to be an organic thing and I got to be involved.

Every time that that's happening, there's rules.

Yeah, every time.

Women, but I like his rules.

His rule is like he wants to be with you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I'm very picky.

I think that's

an important thing.

But I think that's a fair.

I'm very picky.

And whenever it has Some people I've been comfortable with, and some people are just like, no, that's not even

an option.

That's not even an option.

You're going to be fucking my wife.

Exactly.

No, and it's like, but listen, I think that's fair.

I think it's fair.

It's only fair.

It's fair.

I get it.

It's super fair.

Like he said, he does everything with you.

And of course, he has the right to be comfortable with whoever you want to bring up.

Very okay with the fairness.

Guys, you are amazing.

Like, you're my idol.

So, whoever I'm going to date next, they have to meet you and they have to meet you.

I want you to have your Danny one day.

I think I'm going to have my Danny.

That's the thing.

I don't rush into it.

And I think I get pickier and pickier.

I don't know if it's because I do the podcast.

I realize that I deserve better and better and better.

And like we were talking before, the podcast.

Yeah.

And you know what?

That's one thing that turns me off.

And men do that all the time.

Guys, don't do that.

Don't pressure.

And women do that too to men.

Like, don't fucking pressure the person.

I can be totally into someone if I feel they're like slightly pressuring me to have sex with me, to date me, anything.

It's normal, though.

It's like, but if things need to be organic, like you said,

let's have an organic life.

I've been doing this a lot with

it with you.

But I do it with you.

If I want sex, and you do it with me.

I guess, yes, I guess.

We pressure.

It's like, baby,

it's like

I, and so you do the same thing too.

You're like, you, we,

yeah, it's definitely a little, the little, little dance that happens.

Yeah, the little wiggle worm.

Yeah, it's like, I want it now.

You better give it to me.

Exactly.

We both

imagine when you haven't been with, or

you haven't had it.

But guys, this is completely different.

You're married.

I am saying I'm single.

When I start dating someone,

don't you, you know,

people are allowed to take their time.

Okay.

You know, there's no

one knows.

Let's go.

I tell them up front.

No, it's not even that.

Like, you can initiate.

But some girls like aggressiveness.

Because women are like that too.

Like, I have girlfriends.

They go out on two dates with a guy, three dates.

They're like already planning their fucking life for the guy.

Or also.

I'm like, look, just let things happen organically.

Just let things.

I think it's hard for women because they have time frames.

Yeah, but that's stupid because you're putting all this pressure.

And most men don't like pressure.

And I'm a girl that I don't like pressure.

And we were talking before the podcast.

Funny enough, every single dude, I'm like, Okay, let's have a drink, let's have dinner, let's just meet.

Like, the minute they meet me, they're already thinking, like, yeah, I'm gonna kiss, I'm gonna kill you.

What angle am I gonna you?

That's exactly like, and I'm like, okay, then you're really not gonna fuck me because that's not how I work.

That's not how you work, but that's how it's

work.

What would work with some women?

Yeah, I would because most women are.

Some girls like aggressive and material.

But they're not liking material.

Most women

most of my girlfriends you're absolutely right they will go on one date two dates two days they want to fuck they want to have sex and and i i'm happy for them because i think women have the same rights as men you know have sex with as many partners as you want it's just like not my case and we were talking again before the podcast because i do the podcast about sex dating and relationships i i make fun of bad dates i talk about experiences

the guys that meet me i'm gonna listen to your podcast great

then they start talking to me about sex they start talking to me about what they like about past

your cat loose yeah no

i'm gonna take her home and her and when they realize that that's not the case they act like a 15 year old teenager that got disappointed yeah so your podcast is not cat loose it's cat on the loose just tell them tell them to tell them tell them sorry

tell them to jerk off before they come out yeah see i know yeah jerk off that's a great idea i always do that i always have an organization

yes because it and we talk about why you don't have sex

right

because it takes the pressure off.

Like, you know, I don't want to be like a horny bitch around some guy and make everyone.

I have made mistakes like that, I have banged guys that I wasn't

the most amazing thing.

Just rub one out before you go out, you'll be fucking more balanced.

We should all do this before.

For sure, yeah, for sure.

Because it takes the sexual tension away, and you shouldn't expect it, you know and for me as you guys know i

crazy difficult for me to change dick my whole life i was like that and so when i pick a dick it's a really good

i

love it

so the next one has like to be up to park

or like even bad

to convince

in a couple weeks, let's do it.

I want to do a podcast with and I hope the guy that was my dick before doesn't listen to this because he's going to feel like the last Coca-Cola zero of the desert with ice under an umbrella.

So let's hope, let's not tell him.

Let's not tell him, please.

No, I actually and it's a lot of pressure for the next

so when do I get to do your podcast where I'm interviewing you?

You can't do it right now.

No, it's gonna be a seven minutes.

No, this is gonna be a whole episode.

Right now, go, go, go, go, go.

Go, no, go, right now.

I want a whole episode where I'm taking over the podcast and don't know.

We can,

okay, we had a minor interruption.

We were saying, you want to interview me, yes.

And I said, go for it.

But you want, you want to, your whole Cat on the Loose episode for you.

I want to take over Cat on the Loose, and I want to.

It's going to be

Dan on the Loose.

Dan on the Loose.

Okay.

So let's call it that.

And

yeah, I have a lot of questions about social media.

Online dating.

and it's a bitch

Yeah, I do that I have to say yeah, okay, I do meet a lot of nice people online date most of them become my friends Some of them became my clients if you guys believe that a lot of my great clients I met them on social on dating apps and I was like I'm not gonna date this guy but let's work together.

So it is a cool place, but it's super hard to meet.

I think to meet like the right person, it's kind of like finding a diamond in the sand.

You know, that's my opinion.

But can it happen?

It can't.

I told you guys, I've been going on dinner dates with someone that I really like.

Like last night?

No, last night, no.

No.

No.

We had a great time last night, by the way.

We did.

Yeah, it was really fun.

No, but last night wasn't that.

It was, it's someone else.

But like I said, and I met this person on Bumble.

Oh.

But we'll see.

I think that's your app of choice.

I think that

Las Vegas love.

I don't like any of them.

But I think Bumble is the least worse of them.

Tinder is another one around the world.

Like they're rating a dating app.

I don't know if you're not.

Tinder, but it's broken up, right?

Yeah.

No, it's, well, some people claim they're there for relationships, but I don't do Tinder anymore.

How about Christian dating?

Oh, oh, the Lord.

I don't want to meet some religious crazy.

Or Jewish girls online.

I don't have time for this.

I think it might be.

Yeah, I think there's like.

Oh, my God.

I seriously don't have time for this crap.

And then I tried Hinge, and I'm going to do a whole episode about, Oh, my God, it's a disgrace.

It's so hilarious.

I'm going to do a lot of things.

Oh, my God, we're so enough.

I know.

I'm going to do a whole episode.

I'm going to do a whole episode about

it.

If you could see my eyeballs right now, how they roll it.

She's like, I know.

You guys are lucky because you don't need it.

I know.

We talk about that.

It's like, it'd be so weird to start over.

It's an option to, you know, because I'm not going to sit at a bar and pick up men.

It's not my size.

You should not.

Yeah.

So, you know, you end up meeting cool, cool, interesting people, but it's tough.

anyways.

Guys, this was so much fun.

Thank you for your insight.

Thank you for encouraging married couples out there to have hot sex, bringing interesting things in the bedroom.

It's completely fine.

Have fun, you only live once.

I love it.

Yeah, have fun.

And don't

save your money,

but don't skip on date night.

Take your woman out, buy her some sexy shoes.

Yes,

just

don't

be a

penny pincher.

I agree.

You go out and you will save.

When you're 80 years old, do you really think your wife's going to look hot in those red bottoms?

No.

Buy them tomorrow.

Yes, I agree.

Buy them spicy.

Keep it hot.

I think a great sex life helps so much.

And be honest, keep it real.

You guys are awesome.

Well, you are coming back.

We're doing, they're going to be back for the Sapphire Pool episode from Las Vegas.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

Amazing.

Thank you guys.

We might be a little more intoxicated on that.

Yeah, we might.

We might.

This was a mild one.

We have the hangover from hell.

I'll see you guys soon.

Thank you guys.

You're the best.