Saturday Night Impromptu episode with a single guy and a married guy

Okay, so this is a very impromptu Canon Deluze episode.

Um,

on a fry, is today Friday or Saturday?

Saturday.

See, I'm already drunk

for the record.

Everybody knows that I tell it like it is.

I'm here with two super cool guys.

I'm not gonna tell their names so they can remain anonymous.

One is single, ready to mingle,

one is married and somewhat unhappy, right?

Unhappy,

and they agreed to talk about the world of sex, dating, and relationships.

They're looking at each other like, what the fuck is she talking about?

You guys want to talk, or now that I turn on the podcast, you're shy all of a sudden.

Well, I mean, just know we can talk.

It's your intro, so you gotta.

Okay, so let's go for it.

So let's go for it.

Let's start with a single guy.

What do you think about dating apps?

Tell me the truth.

Like from the man's perspective, do you think men are on dating apps because they just want to have quick sex?

Or do you think

honestly, okay, honestly, with all your heart, are there men on dating apps that actually want relationships?

I just happen to be a good statistic of a guy who wants a relationship.

Are you on dating apps?

I am.

You're on dating apps.

Yeah.

And you want a relationship.

Yeah.

Have you met nice people on dating apps?

I have.

You have?

Yeah, I have, but I haven't really met them.

Oh, look, Phoenix woke up.

My dog was leaving on the couch.

And I was like, what the hell is going on?

What the hell is going on?

Phoenix the pup.

Phoenix the pup.

So you think, okay, go for it.

So yeah, I actually

hear.

So yeah, actually, I have

met a couple gals, but I extended my reach out to other countries.

And I did because I find that they're a little bit more real.

Can you do that on dating apps?

You can.

Oh, I didn't know.

Do you pay

$19, whatever, maybe per month or something like that?

So you can meet women worldwide.

You pick and choose where you can go.

Like,

you want somebody who speaks, you know, Russian or Hebrew or,

you know.

So, like, you can meet some girl, let's say, in like Russia.

You can and then well, that's a whole other episode about you know green cards and 90%.

Well, that's that's insane.

That's if you're gonna go there.

That's if you're gonna go there.

But I've actually met some nice girls who do live in like Moscow and St.

Petersburg.

And I talk to them still to this day.

So

they want to meet, obviously.

They want you to buy them a ticket to come to the United States.

No, they can't come to the United States because right now, because of COVID.

No, but if it weren't for COVID, well, you know, that's the kind of idea is to get to know some of these people.

First of all, you have to, outside of the app, that's where you kind of want to talk.

Uh-huh.

That's where you want to talk.

Yeah.

So you agree to go to either WhatsApp or something called Viber.

What is Viber?

Viber is actually, I think it's better than WhatsApp because you can actually

do it.

There's actually a translation button.

Oh, so there is definitely, um, and they don't make mistakes, I don't know because sometimes it's it sounds pretty good.

Sounds pretty good.

So, would you you?

So, let's say, for let's make believe COVID doesn't exist.

You meet some girl in Russia, and just like, oh, fly me to what I'm not gonna say where I live because I'm not gonna, you know, let people find out who you are, but let's say fly me to your city in the United States for a date.

Would you be willing to

let's not assume that I'm going to fly them?

No, I'm just asking you if somebody asked you, would you?

Not necessarily.

It really had to.

I guess it depends on how the conversation goes.

You have to ask yourself,

and you also have to trust your gut, right?

When you're talking to people.

That's the tough one.

But

I've also had

video chats with them.

I prefer video chats that I can see that they're going to be able to get them to be able to get them.

So you can see that, yeah, you're not being catfished.

That's correct.

Yeah.

If they don't want to do that, then I go, thank you very much.

I'll see you later.

Cool.

But that's the first, you have to do a video chat.

I completely agree.

Now, married guy.

Hi.

Hello.

Hello.

So let's chime in about the movie phone.

Welcome.

I think, I'm not sure, but I think you're my first married guest.

Wow.

Look at this.

Welcome to Cat on the Loose.

If I had another one, I honestly don't remember because I'm drunk right now.

A little bit, just tipsy.

But let me ask you a question.

By the way, how is the wine?

The wine is good.

Thank you, mysterious guest.

You are a great wine picker.

Provider.

Yeah, he brought the wine.

Yeah, so we're sitting here, all three of us, friends, talking, and we decided to do this episode.

My audience knows that I do everything organically.

You've been married forever.

So when you showed up, I said, How long have you been married?

And your answer was 20 plus years.

Too long.

Too long.

Interesting.

Your answer was too long.

Too long.

Yes.

So the question is: do you think after many years of marriage,

is there a way that you keep the fire going or everybody who is married for a long time is like

done?

Well, for me,

I have, we have a daughter.

We have a teenage daughter.

So our life really has been everything about the daughter.

Okay.

So

which is fine.

She's, she's fantastic.

That's our, that's our, our, our shared love.

Yeah.

We have one one child.

So that's our one child.

And

so that's mostly our focus right now.

Our focus hasn't been the balance of everything.

It's tough to have balance in life.

Yeah, of course.

So I started a new business a few years back.

So a lot of my time is going there.

And I have a partner.

So I spend lots of time at that.

With your partner, your business partner.

My business partner.

How long have you been married?

I've been married for 22 years.

Oh, okay.

So, okay, you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but since this is a sex dating and relationship podcast how often do you guys have sex we don't have sex enough we have sex

enough for you a month and why do you think that is we're both very busy and then on our free time uh we focus on our kid now i would have sex more often but it's she we work different hours she works late at night i work early so you guys cannot figure out a schedule it's a It's a tough schedule.

It's also an interest level.

I'm more interested in sex than she is right now.

So that's one of the things where, you know, I guess that happens in, you know, relationships where, I mean, she has a, she's a corporate job.

She works really hard.

We both work long hours.

We both focus on the kid.

And, you know.

So you are lacking in your sexual life.

Let's be honest about it.

Sure, of course.

Interesting enough, that is the number one complaint of men in general, married or not.

Most men that I interview, my male friends and everything, they say, oh my God, I want to have more sex than she does, da da da.

And then the relationship dies.

And interesting enough, a lot of women, not married, or I never met your wife, I don't know, but like a lot of single girls, they think, oh, the guys don't want to have sex enough nowadays because they're too distracted with their jobs, with their careers.

I think, and I'm going to ask you guys a question, but in my opinion, as a woman, to me, sex is on the top of my list.

Like when I have a relationship, I want to have, I don't want to have a roommate because to me, it's a relationship with no sex, you're roommates.

Correct.

So I'm like, okay, if I'm with someone, I want to have a lot of sex and fabulous sex because in my life, it's super important.

It's one of the top reasons for having a partner.

not to mention that it's healthy it's good for you it keeps you young etc etc etc so my question is you're single you're married

how do you feel about that like how do you keep that like do you give that up you're married you give that up in in in exchange of other things

How about you single?

Do you agree with me?

Or do if you meet a woman like me, like, oh, she's, you know, fucking hard because she wants to have sex, a lot of sex.

answer who wants to answer first i mean i'll answer first to a certain degree it's it it it's almost super clear it's one of those things where when you don't have responsibilities and you have work and you have your own time

go have sex go find new people and whatever you don't have anything else

why not have sex why not spend time with a beautiful you know or or you know beautiful man beautiful woman whatever and have sex sex.

That's your net, that's your other, that's your other love, your work and your pleasure.

And when you're married, it's a little bit more complicated because if married with kids, maybe if you're just married, it's different, but I have a child and that becomes a really important part of my life.

She's a huge part of my life.

Yeah.

Now, I'm very,

I'm very interested in sex, more than my wife.

Have you ever talked to your wife about it yeah of course and what what do you got you guys just figure out there's no solution well there's a solution we try sometimes or whatever but it's one of those things where she doesn't have the same drive as me okay so you have to focus on what's most important and right now

my daughter's most important okay then my then my job and then our relationship So you are okay being sexually frustrated because you have bigger priorities?

i think that's in life yes and if if i were to have to put those things down down

although

yeah i love sex

it's also it's probably third on my list yeah do you think it happens to every marriage

i think it depends on people's jobs i'm an entrepreneur so i put my whole life into my job yeah and that's a lot of hours yeah any other hours i i put into my daughter yeah trying to to figure out.

I still can figure out time for sex, but the thing is my wife doesn't.

Okay.

So because we also should only maybe work till midnight and I go to bed early and get up early.

So

you can't figure out a situation.

That is our

personal situation.

I'm sure everyone else has their own situation,

but it's life gets complicated.

We have lots of things.

Yes.

And so, you you know,

in the whole breakdown, you have to focus on what's important in your life.

And the question is, what is the most important?

Is the most important sex?

It shouldn't be.

But do you have a problem?

Yeah, it'll help a relationship.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

It's definitely not a problem.

The relationship dies down a little bit if you give that up, right?

Of course.

Of course.

In a way.

But it doesn't mean that it won't come back.

I agree.

I agree.

Yeah.

And it doesn't mean that, you know,

I think priorities in life change.

Yes.

And so

it's one of those things where I think when you're single and you have just a couple things in your life, what word three, whatever, your friends, your job, and sex, or, or, or relationships or whatnot.

It's a little more simplified.

And I think that's when sex, you can have more sex.

And that's

sex is fantastic you know

but at the same time um that's those are your options so you kind of get enjoy that yeah now okay you don't have to answer that if you don't want to would you cheat to kill that craving

no not really i mean

it's one of those things where i think the question you should ask him is have you ever put yourself in a situation where you've been tempted to be in that that situation and you don't have to answer if you don't want to because because sometimes because sometimes it happens you know it really does i don't yeah i agree i think

i also i also

that's the question actually once you ask that question you just did yeah so what's the question

have you ever put yourself in a situation because that you're not getting you know enough fulfillment yeah

um are you are do you put yourselves in that situation to get fulfilled or actually fantasize about

so there was a particular time once then in a foreign country happened once fine.

I actually learned that it's not all about sex.

No, of course not.

It's intimacy.

So so connection.

It's the connect connection.

Yes.

So

turns the flame on.

Yeah, so that's what helped.

That's helped formulate my answer to you.

Yeah.

So it was once, and then i realized it had nothing to do with that it was actually strangely it was really important to go through that for me to personally go

oh it's just sex yes so

you're such a mature adult i love

so so after that i realized and obviously i had to go through that to go oh it's just sex yeah

And it actually made me think of the relationship more

because there's so much more than

sex to a relationship.

So that was a learning experience.

At the same time, you know, it's one of those things where it's, it, it's a,

you know, it's a gray area.

It's one of those things where I would never be intimate with someone outside

my relationship.

Because it's not worth it.

In

that context.

But I'll, I'll go to massages

and that's a different thing.

Yeah.

I don't know anybody's name.

That's different.

You would not do anything that jeopardizes your marriage.

That's super.

No,

at that point, it's almost just

the business of taking care of the business.

Yeah.

Right.

And walking away because

there's no feelings.

There's really no intimacy involved.

It's just.

No.

It's almost taking the stress off.

I know that.

Yeah, no, I totally understand that.

It sounds kind of dumb.

No, it doesn't.

I don't know.

No, I mean, it's like

there's a lot of people who say, well, that's kind of cheating, or you know, it's like

that.

I have, I don't see any problem.

Do you think watching porn is cheating?

I don't.

Do you watch porn?

Yes.

Do you watch porn?

Sure.

I do too.

Does your wife know you watch porn?

Yes.

Does she think it's cheating?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

Did you ask her?

No.

Don't you guys try to watch porn together?

She doesn't like watching porn.

Oh, really?

So, oh, it turns me on so much.

Like, sometimes, wait,

sometimes,

no, really.

Like, sometimes, if you are a couple, like, of course, year after year after year, you got to keep bringing the mystery on.

And I think if you watch something super sexy

and you're like, oh, hmm, you know,

I don't think it's kind of like bringing skies.

Some people are.

So she's kind of like,

she created our world.

She, you know what I mean?

Let me ask you another question.

Sorry, I have a 10 minute question.

Oh, he's funny.

You're next.

How about I'm just gonna go out there, okay?

And I'm not a therapist, but I'm nothing.

I'm just going crazy.

Valentine's Day.

Yeah.

Every woman, deep down inside, you know, and I think a lot of men too.

We like the romance, you know, the brain connection.

How about if you created, like you rented a super sexy hotel room?

Yeah.

Like you surprised her.

Yeah.

Like a sexy hotel room and champagne and you bought him some sexy lingerie and you didn't tell her.

And you said, oh, honey, I have a business meeting.

Just come with me and it's Valentine's night and we'll have a drink.

And you took her to this incredible setup.

And then you chocolate.

Do you think that would maybe help?

And then you blindfolded her and didn't take the blindfold.

You know what she'd do?

She'll be like, whatever.

So she's very logical and she said she says if if i get her sexually lingerie it's for me and if she you know and i do that kind of stuff

yeah so and that's how about the sexy hotel room so then get her some granny panties and see if she know how about the sexy hotel what does she like does she like champagne chocolate

no you know there's not like a thing that she likes

there's not like a thing that she like gets her going but how about like if every woman likes like a fancy five-star hotel with a beach view?

We've done those kind of things, but it's like the question is

not like how about if it's beautiful, it's macroling.

I think you need to be so mysterious.

I just don't think she's in sexual design.

I think you need to be more mysterious, meaning you know, blind so not knowing.

Can I finish my sentence?

My god, you three.

I'll go for it.

Three bottles down.

I can't even ask my question.

Let her go.

Well, sorry, let her go.

But I'm the single person.

Here, hold the microphone i'm this yeah i forgot i have a co-host tonight guys yeah he's the single guy that actually no he's right doesn't mind saying things i mystery man i apologize that i cut you off i was so rude go for it okay he's right listen

i think you need to be something

oh is this really working uh-huh oh this is fantastic

So

this is the first time I get to have the microphone.

Go for it.

Just ask the question.

The question really is,

maybe be something that you're not.

You know, because every day, you know, the chocolates and the hotel and the

it's fine.

It's fine.

But if I blindfolded you and called myself Don Juan or something like that, or

put a mask on.

Role play?

You know, be something that you're not.

Maybe, maybe be in a costume that

you never would want, you know, it's.

I like that.

Like kidnap her?

Be a kidnapper.

Like, maybe leave your cobbler.

Do like a quick chokehold or something.

Every woman has a fantasy with a cobbler.

I'm just, I'm just, I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be sick or anything, but that's.

That's not.

God, why would you say that?

All I can say is, you're sick.

No, I'm not sick.

No.

I'm just kidding.

I have no COVID, okay?

No, I think that's a good thing.

So, in my particular case, and I've gone through a lot of this.

I think that she's just not as sexually active.

As sexual,

But maybe there is something hidden inside that needs to come out.

Yeah, no, there might be.

I've tried many things and

we've had a lot of sex in our life.

But at the same time,

as we've had this child, the past 10 years.

It's one of those things where it's not, sex is different when you're

when you have something else in your life too.

When you have a lot of other things you're you know so

yeah sex is different

um

when you're married and and when you have other things now like i said i think it things may change you know once she leaves the house or whatever but um

my sex drive hasn't changed her sex drive she just doesn't have a sex drive like i do but do but so i don't think that that's i don't think that's bad i don't think it just it is it's bad for me but did you give up or do you think there's anything?

Have you?

Would you try walking when it comes to sex?

Like, he'll probably also accept it.

No, listen, I was married once.

So I accepted that very

my ex-wife.

At some point, we just didn't have any more connection.

Yeah.

And it just you go to bed, you turn over and you go to bed and you say, Okay, that's it.

I just, I, I personally couldn't turn it on again.

And

I know she couldn't turn it on.

I can always turn it on.

You can okay yeah

as long as there is a fuel to the fire don't give up so would you i don't think i'll ever will would you try the role-playing thing like like he recommended i think it's kind of silly but um why

have you watched did you ever watch sex in the city yeah we watched it together do you remember sex in the city samantha when she had a younger boyfriend in the beginning of their relationship they would they would go to restaurant and they would role play every night.

And it totally turned on.

Well, sometimes silly is fun.

I say be something that you want every day.

I agree.

Nobody needs an entrepreneur in the bed every day.

I know.

Why don't you try that?

You know, pull her hair or something.

Yeah, I know.

I agree.

Like,

but

I'm just saying, it's not.

It's not uncommon to do that.

No, it's totally because I've found as I get older,

as I get older and more, I've always been comfortable with my sexuality.

I know.

I've always been comfortable with myself.

Hold the microphone.

You've been dying to hold this microphone since last night.

He was dying to hold the microphone since last night.

I tried to interview.

Supposedly, he hit a bottle for me.

Full disclosure, my listeners love that I tell them the truth.

They drank two bottles before I showed up.

This is the third bottle.

And my mysterious guest, number one, the single guy, told me he hit a a bottle for me.

I'm like, you think I'm an alcoholic?

That you have to hide a bottle for me?

No, I'm just saying, you know, these are really, really good bottles.

And

I just didn't know if you

understood the taste of a good bottle.

He just opened a Pandora's box.

Oh,

that's a whole other episode.

You were wondering if I was worthy of it.

Okay, so now that you're worthy, so now that you're worthy of it.

So, is that the truth?

No, that's actually not the truth.

So, okay, let's sit down.

Let's fix it.

Can I go get the bottle of wine?

No, wait.

No, no, get it.

Were you hiding it from me because you think I'm a crazy alcoholic?

Or were you thinking

I need to be worthy of this bottle?

None of the above.

So what's the answer?

Don't run away.

Why were you hiding the freaking bottle of wine?

Because I think when I brought over three bottles, that would have been enough.

apparently it's not

you thought so you thought you're gonna take the fourth bottle back home

we we don't know how many what do you think you've known him for what 30 years yeah what is tell me what do you think i've known him for 30 years 30 years and i and i i think that he didn't think i was worthy of the fancy bottle i don't think that was it i think he was being i think he was being smart and it looks good for a couple bottles and um he always knew he'd probably use all of them.

He's pulling his dick.

No, he was just making believe he was pulling his dick out.

I don't want to see it, sir.

I well, feel free to go for it.

If you want, if you really want to.

So, so I was waiting.

I want to know why.

Now, I really need to know why.

I really think I'm an honest guy.

Okay, so tell me why were you hiding this bottle from me?

I just told you, I thought when I popped out three bottles, that would have been enough.

But apparently, now that we have

married, now if we have married man here, he's got to drink a bottle or two.

So we, I didn't know we were to go through so many bottles.

I think you're thinking, oh,

no, no, no, because you said you know him for 30 years and said, oh, he wasn't sure if you were worthy of the fancy

man's side.

So, you guys, we, since we don't have video, I'm not recording because I'm respecting the privacy.

He was sitting on my side, he moved to his married friend's side.

Because, well, I forgive you.

I'm better.

Here's the thing.

I just like giving you a hard time.

I love it.

I will always cover hand.

I know.

So, but you blurted out the truth.

You blurted out the truth.

You were like, oh, he wasn't sure if you were more than a hundred.

No, that was the funny.

I bring the funny.

That's okay.

But you know, the good thing about it is he decided this chick is worth my fancy.

Here, I'm going to be honest with you.

Yes, please.

We love honesty.

You

because this woman cat in a hat

is almost on her 100th episode, ladies and gentlemen.

Woo-hoo!

This is 95.

Yay!

I mean, not many people in their lifetime can accomplish something.

No, not many people in their lifetime.

So, by the way,

we're very proud of you.

Thank you.

Thank you for having us on the show.

I know this is totally impromptu.

We love impromptu.

And

the potato chips are spicy.

I do have to say that my married friend here

and I are honored to be on your show.

Oh, thank you.

I second that.

You diverged the conversation from the fourth bottle of wine, but good for you.

That's what entrepreneurs do.

That's right.

We divert.

I diverged.

That potato.

They brought these potato chips so spicy.

I'm choking.

Can I please have some wine?

Hurry, open the wine.

They're so spicy.

In the meantime, I'm going to take a two-minute two-minute break.

So, what other questions do you have for America?

Okay, I'm going to.

I have 10 million.

I'm going to take a two-minute break, and we're coming right back.

This is the 95th episode of Cat on the Fucking Lose, babes.

By the way, coming up, we're going to have a 2014 Von Strasser Reserve.

And it's going to be a good one.

Do you want to be my sidekick?

Of course.

I mean, listen, we've got to have

wine with cat.

always i love you guys we'll be right back

action

okay fourth bottle of wine of the night

now everybody knows that you are hiding the fourth bottle from me

so that's pretty nasty but we are gonna drink it what is it called it's charvan straße where is it from I believe this is from the Napo region

of Austria.

No, it's the Diamond mountain district okay and um it's just delicious i mean it is comes from the diamond mountain i'm sorry it's in calistoga okay but you could say it's nearly after a bunch of bottles honestly let's be honest about it doesn't really freaking matter does it right now we are drinking

our thai food finally arrived and i'm not even hungry anymore because they took 10 million hours short of food but whatever now guys on the second half i would like to ask you both a few questions that I ask all my guests

if you guys are okay answering.

As men, regardless of the fact that you're single,

ready to mingle all over the world,

and you're married, sometimes happy, sometimes unhappy.

By the way, can we first do this?

Cheers.

Cheers.

Okay, cheers.

Thank you guys so much for doing this.

Look at each other's eyes.

Always.

Because it means

luck.

luck.

Right?

It means luck.

We are looking at each other's eyes.

Let's see if this freaking wine is good.

I am going to die, and I'm going to find out.

Why were you who the hell brings a bottle of wine to somebody's house and hides the better one?

This is not good.

Who does that?

This is

sorry.

My single guest touched my

computer.

I touched your pad.

Hold my microphone.

and he's like

start i you guys know i never edit i never edit i but he want he wanted to hold it it was a fantasy

okay i never added so we're jumping right on it so i apologize i i really don't touch the freaking system don't touch the computer i was opening up a von straasser 14 by the way can you let's talk about this wine for a second no this is not a wine podcast a sex dating relationship podcast yeah but this leads into sex last time i checked this leads into sex okay so let's talk about sex.

Let's

jump right on it.

I have a few questions.

Yeah.

Super quick,

but important questions.

Number one,

the wine is amazing.

It was good.

And it's a big deal why you hid the best bottle of wine in your suitcase

until you decided if I'm worth it.

Just a thing.

That's okay.

So, do you guys think

that most men are intimidated by women that talk about sex that have public jobs like like me like you do a podcast or you post sexy pictures on your instagram

do you agree that most men are intimidated by that or not who wants to go first i'll go as a single guy i'm not intimidated by it but i don't need my i don't if if it's a woman that i'm going out with i've never been out with a woman who does that anyways because i'm a fairly private guy.

Who does what?

Podcasts?

No, just puts themselves out there.

It's like it's a model picture every time.

I don't personally want my significant other to be,

it's not exploited, but I'd rather leave it to our bedroom in our in our private home.

That's me.

That's just me.

So if she, if I posted something sexy or not, you don't want it.

No, but you can do it.

No, you, me or your girlfriend or your wife, whatever, you would prefer that they didn't do it.

I've never been with a woman who does that, anyways.

But if you were, that's the question.

I don't know.

I guess we have to put myself out there with her.

I don't know how to pretend.

I've never been with a woman like that before.

Okay.

Well, I'm not even, I'm not really sure what your answer was.

I think your answer was

you would not like it.

Yeah, but I just don't like an overly public woman in my life in general.

Okay.

What is your answer, married guy?

And ask the question exactly again.

The question was, do you think most men are intimidated by women with public jobs like a podcast that talks about sex, social media with pictures, posts, you know, sometimes in a bikinis, sometimes showing their legs, or whatever.

That they put their work out there.

All right.

So so the reason why I made you ask it again is because the first part is different than the second part.

Am I intimidated by someone who is out there and professional and wants to talk about whatever they want to talk about, whether it's sex or anything else?

That's a strong woman.

No, I'm not intimidated with that at all.

Is it,

there's, there's no reason.

And I don't think, I don't think most

confident men are.

I think you need to be a confident man to be able to trust that.

And I also like a very strong woman who

is smart, who has opinions, who can have their own life, that kind of stuff.

And that's kind of who I chose as a partner.

At the same time,

if someone wants to, if my partner's the one to go out and just show sexy pictures and, you know,

skimpy outfits and show their body, well that says something about who I'm dating or I'm married with or whoever.

And I, you know,

I don't always think that that's the best way to show your true self.

Yeah.

I kind of feel like they're trying to

balance themselves out to someone who's a little, who's not as smart, or that's their best thing is their body.

And

personally,

I always go over brains over body.

Me too.

I'm a major subsexual.

And

even so, if it's not brains it's it's brains and

and um

i don't know it's just

it's a combination

personality it's a personality so it's a personality and brains yeah and and that's that's most of what's most important obviously

you know uh physical is what's attracted to to me and men and males, I think, in general.

But if I were to ever have to compromise,

I would say I would rather have something, someone that's smart and charismatic and has a great personality and someone that I could be with.

That's most important.

Yeah.

So, single guy, do you want to elaborate on that?

Like he said, he would be fine if his woman is working and has a great job and is doing all of those things that are related to her job.

Would you be intimidated by that?

Would you still not want the woman to have this public job?

I guess

I agree with him, but it really depends on is she a stripper?

Or is she

depends on the job?

You know, I think it depends on the job.

I'm not looking for a stripper to continue to being a stripper after hours.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

And so I don't need

that attention.

My private life is my private life, right?

Yeah.

But if she is a strong woman, and it is her job to somewhat be a sex therapist and to

do a professional yeah

so you guys are not intimidated by a woman that works no why not because a lot of men are a lot of men are right and i hear that's part of the book there but would you date a woman who is super successful of course i have so you would be proud of her matter of fact not only did i it was i can't believe you're looking at the vivino app in the middle of the podcast yeah that is not.

He's looking at that the wine he brought is worth $135.

Okay.

So other than wine, I think most people who are confident with themselves won't have a problem with whatever the woman wants to do, whatever partner, whatever.

I think that's an issue.

Super.

So you would, I know you're married, but would you date somebody who's more successful than you?

I have.

Or would you date a woman who is ambitious?

Would you be proud of a woman who's ambitious?

I would always be proud of someone who's cool.

And the second thing is whether or not, so I also have to, if a woman is far more successful in terms of how much money she makes and the impression she makes politically or publicly,

but as long as she comes home and says that's the guy I love,

of course.

Now, if it's a status thing where she gets the guy who's attractive, but

he doesn't really follow in the same circles.

That's happened to me.

You know, there's the billionaires and the millionaires, and then there's the guys who make just under a million.

Well, okay.

Well, some of those people look at how much status,

how much status that can bring them.

Is it good enough to have a good-looking guy around?

Probably not.

No.

They want somebody who's super excited.

But believe it or not, a lot of men,

you guys, I'm not going to believe this, but I swear to God, a lot of men don't want to date a woman who is ambitious and successful.

So I am very impressed.

I am very happy.

I know me neither.

As a woman, like I said, I was in a marriage that my husband was.

killing my work, killing my creativity, killing my job.

I never want to be in this position again.

I want to find a partner who is proud, you know, of me, of what I do.

But you guys would be shocked how many men are like, oh, yeah, no.

Oh my God, she does a podcast about sex.

Oh my God, she does her Instagram.

Oh no, you know, because a lot of men are still like,

I don't want to say retarded because I don't want to be rude, but yeah,

so many men are intimidated or don't want to date women that actually, you know, are ambitious and have projects.

So I'm super happy that you guys are saying that.

Oh,

Mazzov.

Mazzo Cove, Mazzo Cove.

I definitely think that should.

I mean,

I think it, I would hope that most men are like that, but I know that that's case.

But I know we would hope that that's not the case.

We would hope.

Now, another question that I ask all my guests, or most of my guests, I want to ask both of you, but I think it's more for him because you're married.

But I want to know your opinion too.

And you can make believe or whatever, before you're married.

That's another huge issue in the dating world.

I've listened to a million dating experts.

I've had them on my show.

I talk to other people, and they all say when you're single and you're dating, oh, if you have sex on the second date or the third date, they're not going to want to have a relationship with you.

They lose all respect for you.

Withhold sex.

Play the game.

Every single relationship expert I've ever interviewed say the same thing.

If you're dating someone, let them wait and wait and wait and wait for sex three months four months six months because if you have sex quick

they're never gonna want to date you they're never gonna want to respect you what is your opinion on that well I'll say that's um that is a case by case right

and I say that because I think there's some some late I think there's some

people who you have sex with that are really to have sex with them.

No, but I'm talking about date.

Like you go on one date.

Yeah.

Great date.

Yeah.

Then you go on a second date.

Okay.

And you're like, oh, I really like her.

Okay.

It happened.

You guys had sex.

Okay.

Does that mean for a man you automatically lose respect for that woman?

No.

Like, oh, I'm not going to date her.

Of course not.

I don't think so.

I think it's the case.

I think it's woman by woman or man by man.

It doesn't matter.

It depends on what energy is between a man and a woman.

If it continues to energize throughout the next date, in the next date,

one, at least you got to try the shoe.

Oh, you tried, you got to try the chemistry.

And if the chemistry was there, then you probably are going to either say, yes, I want to continue it, or maybe there's something missing in that

thing.

Some people are just,

some people look for intellectual stimulation that of course lead into great sexual experiences together and others are

great sexual experiences can lean to intellectual experiences as they move forward in their relationship if they decide but the bottom line is you disagree with the experts you don't think like oh she had sex with me on the second date she's a whore i'm not gonna date her anymore no but i don't think well you're talking to a guy who never thinks that any woman is a whore

so I think we just haven't.

I think that we just give him the microphone.

I think we're just attracted to each other at that moment, and you decided to you just no, no, it's okay.

I think you just you go for it.

Don't you know, don't hold back.

What is your opinion?

I know you're married, but speak up.

Oh, no, I used to be sick.

Because, because you're gonna go home, I know you used to be single, you're gonna go home, he's gonna go home and

savage his mother.

No, you're gonna go home, you're gonna go home and

shut the up

okay so she's been okay so you can't shut her up here's a different cat on this is this is epitome of cat on the loose right here

this is her show maybe you should try that maybe she'll go home and say honey shut up shut up i just did a sex

quiet daughter yeah we're about to have sex no so

here's the thing can i please have a little more of your super fancy expensive wine i thought you were done i

I will be done if you wanted to.

And one of the things is there is something about the chase.

And

I remember I was interested in someone.

Louder, please.

Now I have the microphone right here.

Louder.

Yeah, feel louder.

Louder.

Louder.

Louder.

This is a professional.

Very professional.

It does.

Okay.

Stop it.

So, so I was interested in someone and I was showing her around and it actually around with you.

And

I was showing her just the room that we were in.

And she's like, oh,

I'm not going to go into your bedroom.

And I said, no, I wasn't saying that you wanted to go into your bedroom.

And then I realized she would have had sex.

And

it turned me off.

To be honest, it turned me off.

And she was like

right off, ready to have sex.

And you were not.

No, I liked her, but it's like, I kind of liked it.

I liked the chase.

There's something about me that likes the chase a little bit.

And if I can get, and basically, she said, just call me next week.

I'm sure she was on her period or something like that.

But at the same time, I just,

I mean, it was, I'm sure it was something like that.

Okay.

Um, because she said, Trust me, just call me again.

And there was something that I just didn't want to call her.

And so I never called her again.

Wow.

Rob did.

But

Rob called.

Oh,

wow.

There are a million Robs in the world.

So

the thing is,

there's something about the chase.

There's something about the chase.

And it was

something that's something for me.

But I don't necessarily think it's the first or second, but I think it's, I don't think there's a number.

At the same time, I'm married.

Do you remember how many dates you took your wife before you guys had sex?

I remember she would go to bed with me, but without with with biker shorts on oh so she so she was one of those things where i got i interviewed this chick it was according to her she was a virgin no she was not virgin oh she just didn't want to talk she was a biker but

she must have had some sort of thought of i don't want to ruin it um

she was playing the game like i'm gonna withhold withhold

but it worked for you but see for me how many times did she go out on a date with you and with biker chat

I don't I mean we slept together but it was one of those things where she didn't want to right away and the thing is the biker shorts like were her protection against having sex with yeah yeah and it was one of those safety things it's that's the new chastity built oh yeah it was kind of like that and I don't she had it was honestly I don't and it didn't turn you off no I would think if I wear biker shorts with a guy in bed or dating him, like I would think it totally turns off a man, but it didn't turn you off.

But you married her.

See, the thing is for a good dry rub.

No, I don't.

I don't think it was that long.

I don't think it was that long.

But in the beginning, it's like I wanted to be around her right away.

And I wanted her to stay over.

You wanted to pursue her.

Yeah.

The biker short theory.

Oh, my God.

So it was one of those things where whatever time frame that was,

it's just, I was interested in her.

And it didn't really matter and the thing is sex

let me ask

but the thing is i it didn't really matter the time frame it didn't seem that long and then you know before we knew we were having sex it didn't matter okay yeah but the thing is you and that was her thing it wasn't me and the thing is like maybe that's why it worked because I know that if it's if the chase is off and it's like it's a sure thing if it's easy you lose interest lose I lose interest a lot

yeah I'm like if if I'm not going to chase and I'm not going to woo them and they're just going to give it, give it up.

Some men say, you know, it shouldn't be a chase.

It should be chemistry.

We should love each other.

It's bullshit.

And some men say, I want to chase, chase, chase.

I've had like both her.

As a married man, I would have had, I should have had sex with every single person.

But can I ask you to offer?

Can I ask you a tough question?

So, way back then, when you finally took her biker belt, her biker shorts off, did you guys have hot, hot, fabulous sex?

Of course.

Of course, I'm sure it was so it died down as

life.

It's been many years.

Okay.

And we had, we had a lot of sex and then we then we had to try to have sex to have have a child and we had a child and then we had more sex because we were trying to run another child.

Okay.

And it was one of those things where there's plenty of sex, but the question, the thing is,

it's life right now.

Yeah.

Okay.

And

that's not the, that's the thing of, it's not what we want.

It's just, it's not, my level is different than her level.

No, I got it.

I got it.

And, you know, we're not single.

We don't have just that second thing.

We have multiple areas.

You know, so that's the thing.

I hope that

you guys find that flame again.

Wouldn't you?

A single friend?

Absolutely.

I would hope.

And we joke.

I don't know why we won't.

I wouldn't.

And that's not the issue.

And I don't think because I think there's nothing sexier.

I'm a major relationship person.

Right.

I'm like all about quality.

I'm just saying about me.

I never ever, my entire life, I don't like quantity in anything, anything.

Right.

I think it's the French in me because French people, they're all about quality, quality, quality.

I was never like, I cannot have sex with someone.

Like, oh my God, I'm so horny.

I'm going to have sex.

I was not, we were talking about that yesterday.

I need to have a connection, a mental connection.

I'm a major sapiosexual.

I need to feel like something with that person.

And I love the reason why I love a relationship is because I think it builds intimacy.

And I think, in my mind, the more intimacy you have, the better sex should be.

Because you're like, oh, I can tell you all my fantasies, and you can tell me all my fancy, and tomorrow is going to be better and better and better and better.

That's like my dream in my mind.

And I honestly, I love sex to the point that I, and I'm, and it's all over my podcast.

So, I tell you guys, I've had people I've interviewed experts in the past, they're like, Oh, you're almost a

sexual, you're you're addicted to sex, and I'm like, No, I'm not, but I love it, I love it, I think it's fantastic.

But the question I have is, why, why can't you enjoy it every day?

Why does it seem like I'm single?

No, because if I meet a guy at a bar, like a random guy, I cannot have sex with a a random guy just to have sex.

I prefer to use a vibrator.

I just cannot have it, it turns me off like.

So what I'm what I guess my question really is this: that

what says we can't enjoy sex as much as we want, and we have, we have a therapist that tells us that it's sex addiction.

Okay, exactly.

Yeah, we like sex.

I like to masturbate.

I like to, you like to use a vibrator when you're not.

Yeah, it's super healthy.

I agree.

It's awesome.

It's awesome.

I love it.

Also, a very big stress reliever.

Yeah.

So

if you remember the movie called Something About Mary, he's just about to take the girl out on a date or a homecoming.

He goes into the bathroom.

He finishes business.

Of course, he's got his cum.

Yeah, he's got the cum in his hair.

But the point is, he was, you know,

relieved stress.

I can't tell you how many times I've been in the situation.

You know, you're going out.

And I want to, and just before you go out, you've got to get the stress off.

I agree.

To feel.

No, but listen, it's different for men.

Like if men, if you guys have sex with a bunch of women, if you masturbate all the time, even if you have sex, like random sex, it's cool.

For a woman, they think you're a whore, you're promiscuous, la.

That's fine.

I have girlfriends.

I have a bunch of single girlfriends.

Many times they're like, oh, I'm going to go to a bar.

I'm going to pick like Tinder, right?

For women, let's be honest.

If you want to have sex, you pick some dude on Tinder and you have sex.

But for me, I cannot do that.

Sometimes I even just like the art of masturbation between the two people.

You don't even have to enter.

Yeah, but for me, I cannot ever

meet someone and like, oh, let's have sex.

By the way, I'm making him put his finger under the bottle because it's a big oh my god yeah we should do a view you're like

so here

you are in love with your wine bottle fill up my bottle you don't have sex with your wine bottle well I mean it does it never it never does

he does I am never gonna get over the fact that you hit this bottle of wine for me so you will aren't you glad I did when I'm no when I'm done with the podcast I'm gonna beat you off should I have given to this dude first no you should not have hit or should I just laid out my whole bottles collection?

Yes, yes.

You shouldn't have.

Your best friend of 30 years said,

you know, he called it out.

He said he wasn't sure if you were worthy of the fourth best bottle of wine.

No, but I was kidding.

You know, no, you were not.

Finishing up the

okay, so that's why would I have brought it for a funny joke?

That's a guy joke.

I don't even know what you were talking about anymore.

Finishing up the sex thought for me, me, Catherine.

I need to have a connection.

As much as I love, love sex, I go months and months and months on end without any sex.

I use my vibrators 10 million times because I agree it relieves stress.

And I think it's a problem for women.

A lot of women in the United States, there's the stigma.

Oh, you masturbate.

You have vibrators.

Yeah, it's a whole other situation.

Yes, because it relieves stress.

I think it's better to use a vibrator than to fuck some dude, you know?

But to me, I also, it could be a starter to having sex, you know.

Some people just say,

let's go right down on sex.

Just, it's a good thing.

No,

I interviewed a group of women.

It's a sizzle.

What did you say?

A sizzle?

I said for shisel.

For shizzle.

For shizzle.

Shoot.

For shizzle?

Okay.

Faux shizzle.

What a shizzle.

What a shizzle.

What a shizzle.

They're speaking like their own language now.

It's It's faux shizzle.

What is faux shizzle?

Snoop doggy dog thing.

Faux shizzle is a funny thing.

Anyways, let's finish.

Yeah, we're finishing the sex talk.

I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.

So, you last question.

I interviewed a group of women.

It was super cool.

It was an episode.

I got 10 women, super successful women.

I want to get 10 women.

I'm sorry.

Where?

On the podcast?

Anywhere.

But anyway, I asked them, bringing toys into the bedroom.

Yeah.

Does that do you would you feel offended like I'm not good enough or would you feel fabulous foreplay?

Love the foreplay.

I love bringing them, but my wife doesn't like all this stuff.

Oh my God, I'm going to cure her.

Maybe we should interview her.

What does she like?

I don't know.

Have you ever tried a smack?

Like I said, I've tried to smack her.

How about if you came home right now?

I'm like, shut the fuck up.

I'm really horny.

I'm going to fuck you and I love you and I'm going to kiss you.

Top, tough, tough tough maybe

okay can you try that and tell us the result tomorrow

i think there's moments i think there's she's very complicated

i noticed do you notice it's very complicated

it's complicated okay she does not like she does i bought she doesn't like sex toys she doesn't like sex toys she tries them she'll she'll use it every once in a while and i said when When's the last time you used the library that I bought you?

Oh, it's been about six weeks.

I've just been too busy.

No, but bring it into the bedroom with her.

Well, I've tried that too.

Have you tried walking home right now and like doing it?

Shut off her computer.

Yeah.

Just fucking

fuck her on the desk in the middle of the day.

No, no, tonight.

You're going home, right?

I think so.

So

how about you went home and you jump on her?

Like, shut the fuck up.

I miss you.

I love you.

Yeah, do it.

What is her favorite thing in bed?

Popcorn.

Oh, did I just say that?

Does she like oral sex?

Does she like kissing?

No, I think that.

I think we, with most women, and it from what I understand,

I think the

longer you have a little bit more prior to sex, just you know, foreplay.

The foreplay.

I think it's very important.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

I think that's important.

It's fun.

It's fun.

and it can be a lot of fun yes and unfortunately it takes time you have to make sure that you have enough time

it's 10 20 so if you get home at midnight no but no no not like tonight but just in general i wasn't talking about tonight i was starting to eat the thai food which is getting sometimes like when i get out of the shower or she gets out of the shower anybody

she all the 10 million women could be any any she as long as it's a she for me thank you but if she was so promiscuous but if she gets out of the shower that could be a moment.

It could be five seconds.

Yeah.

Just do it.

And sometimes you just need to have sex.

And then there's other times where you just want to really make love to the person you love to be with.

Yeah.

So, as the married man,

you don't have as much time and you really have to focus on whenever you have time.

You already said that, but we're not talking about that.

Everybody, look.

I'm sorry.

Which is not time.

We make time for what we want.

Period.

Period.

Everybody sleeps.

Like I'm telling you now, it's 10:22, 20, 10, 23 on a Saturday.

I think most women have, like, I would die.

Like, if you could, like, not you, but my man came home to me in the middle of the day.

I'm exhausted.

He jumped on me, like, I have to have you.

Shut the fuck up.

I would be like in heaven.

Just shut the fuck up.

Yeah, like, shut the fuck up.

Don't do anything.

Yes.

Fuck Lean.

Shut up.

How about?

Do you want to try that?

It's just about you.

Exactly.

Like, I love you.

I miss you.

You know?

She feels just about.

She will do that a lot.

Okay, then.

Just go and do it.

It's fine.

The question is.

The question should always be about me.

Should always be about satisfying me first, satisfying her.

Don't worry about it.

It's not necessarily.

Okay, so try this experiment that we just told you, and then you come back tomorrow and tell us how it went.

How's that?

Tomorrow's podcast day.

Tomorrow, Harry, for sure.

Go, Rams.

Go, Rams.

Go, Rams.

Aren't they playing the 49ers?

Yes.

Go, Rams.

Go, Rams.

No way.

You're not doing that.

I am going to Rams.

You're the enemy.

Not the enemy.

You're the enemy.

Go away.

Not the enemy.

No way.

49ers.

All the way.

Oh, my God.

I hate him.

I've lived in the Bay Area.

I don't give a fuck.

I cannot stay.

Okay.

We have 40 seconds left.

This was a super fun Cat on the Loose impromptu.

I am gonna try to bring married guy back.

Are you gonna try to jump her bones tonight or not?

It depends.

I'm gonna get out of here.

Oh, but get the fuck out of here.

I have no rebounds.

Willie's right over here.

He might have an Uber.

Do you want to sleep on a couch?

You're welcome.

I hope I bring him back.

I hope you guys had fun.

I don't know if we answered any questions.

The only question we answered is: girls, do your job, go for it.

This is my message to women: your man will be supportive of anything you do.

Period.

And if they're not

fuck yourself, I know.

Tell them to go away.

The thing is, only your man will be supportive of you and fuck the brains out of you.

I love you.