THE MAKING OF A STAR WITH SINGER KATT RARDI AND MUSIC PRODUCER ANTHONY CALLY

So on today's episode of Cat on the Lose, we're going to talk about music and what it takes to become a music star here in Hollywood to produce music and to launch a music career. I brought two really special guests that I had the pleasure to work with.
Anthony Culley, a director and music producer, and Cat Rardi. She writes her own songs, she produces, she's an actor and she's a fantastic singer.
They invited me to be a part of the music video for her latest song called I'll Take You There. It was such a fun, fantastic experience.
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Today we're going to talk about one of my favorite subjects in this world, music. And I brought two major, major talents here with me.
Not one, two, two, two, that I had the pleasure to work with. and let me introduce Anthony Calley to my right

is a director, producer

who also writes his own material. You've made so many short movies, music videos.
Hi, Anthony. Hi, how's it going? Welcome to Cat on the Loose.
Thanks for having me. We're going to explain why you're here.
And to my left, Cat Square today, Cat Rardi. Hi, baby.
Super, super talented singer. You write your own material.
You're also an actor and you have this fabulous single out there. I want to take you there.
Take you there. Out now everywhere.
Welcome to Kat on the Loose. Thank you.
It's such a pleasure having you guys here. Thanks for having us.
This is great. Amazing.
I hope you get to sing for us a little bit today. Still a little early, but...

I know. Maybe in a little bit, right? Maybe in a little bit.

So let's explain how the universe brought us here together. Sure.
Anthony and Kat, you guys met when you were working. Yeah.
So back in 2020, I was casting for a feature film. I wrote and directed.
And she was living in New York at the time.

In the feature, we shot half of it in New York.

And I just needed somebody for a New Year's Eve party.

And the character's name was Gorgeous Blonde.

And Kat fit that description very well.

I agree.

We met over there.

So she came on.

It was only a one-day shoot for us. But we've always stayed in contact afterwards.
And she knocked it out of the park, of course. But since then, we've just always kept in touch until she eventually moved out here.
Good move, by the way. It's so funny hearing things from your lens.
Because from my lens, I was like freaking out when I booked that job in New York, when i booked his movie um i love telling this story because when i booked the role first of all having an imdb credit that says gorgeous blonde like what like never in my in my life did i think that that would be me so that thank you for that charity work seriously um but it was the first job i had ever booked where when i was when a self-tape request, he was like, I just want to call you on the phone really quick. And we talked on the phone and he explained the role and he explained the story.
And he was just so passionate and honest and and and lovely on the phone. And I was like, this is the first time I've ever spoken with a director before taping.
So I really appreciated that. And then he created such a safe, fun, communic communicative set and it was just such a blast and i remembered being like wow all these guys live in la and that's so cool and that's where i want to be and then flash forward two years later i was like hey guys i'm here um and they have not been able to get rid of me since.
I don't think I've left them alone. Yeah.

Fantastic move.

So you come to LA.

By the way, before I continue, you're a cat with two Ts.

So I'm cat with one and you're cat with two.

And today's cat square taking over the world.

So you move to LA and you keep in touch with Anthony and you decide you're going to pursue your music career.

And you do have a fantastic voice and you guys are going to listen to it.

Right.

So that's like your passion.

Thank you. Anthony, and you decide you're going to pursue your music career and you do have a fantastic voice and you guys are going to listen to it.
Right. So that that's like your passion.
Yeah, I think I moved out here for both acting and music and I kind of was just playing like the balance game of, you know, what's going to what needs more nurturing at this time and what's attracting more. And yeah, I just think whatever whenever like passion or inspiration strikes, I'm like, OK okay let's let's get the ball rolling on it yeah let's strike while the iron's hot so yeah that totally we we can do everything right we can do all of it at the same time i'm trying so let's talk about the single i'll take you there because i fell in love with the song it's insanely catchy I say that every I say that every day I'm manifesting it should be on the radio it should be on the radio it should be on the radio it's gonna be on the radio it's gonna be on the radio it's gonna be very how did it come about okay so I was in the studio um a friend had set up a session for me and at this time I had been in LA for about a year and I was in sessions two, three times a week, just meeting with different producers, meeting with different co-writers and feeling a little frustrated because I wasn't, I wasn't clicking with someone that I felt a real, like everyone was great and brilliant, but I wasn't feeling that like that ultimate synergy, you know? Um, and so when I met with this producer, Jeff, shout out Jeff, it was like, it just felt so natural.
And I, everything I was throwing out of me understood and then enhanced, which was really great. And so we were in the studio and we were just kind of had a start from scratch session.
And I just wanted to make something that was fun. I just, I was like, I just want to make something that makes me feel good, makes other people feel good, makes me dance and take you there came about.
And actually, I think that the hook was the last thing I came up with, because I remember starting with the Hollywood hangout and and then the New York line came in and the Brooklyn line came in. I was like, do I want to make a song about California or New York? And that's exactly where I was at that point when I wrote the record.
I was like, do I want to stay in L.A. or do I want to be in New York? I did not know.
So it was so funny that I couldn't pick what I wanted to write the song about. And then eventually I was like, well, I'm just going to make it about both and make it about nights out because whatever.
Why do I have to pick one? So you wrote the entire song yourself. Yeah.
That's incredible, right? Oh my gosh, thank you. It's really fabulous work.
Actually, I will say Jeff came up with the lyric Golden Hour silhouette because I was like New York City with the wind in my hair and then I was like cruising down sunset. Sing it, sing it, sing it.
New York City with the wind New York City with the wind in my hair I want to take you there cruising down sunset and then i was like what comes after that he goes golden hour silhouette i was like jeff that's literally the best lyric of the whole song what so um yeah match made in song heaven yes shouts to him for that too yeah so then we were just and of course, right? I'm working with all these LA producers, and the one I find the most synergy with lives in New York. Well.
So he goes back to New York. We're working virtually.
We're going back and forth. And I'm like, I'm telling you, like, what we're going to do, and it's going to be fine.
We're going to work virtually. We're going to finish the song.
I'll do the vocals here. I think we had one session in New York, and then the song came to and it's super adorable and then you decided to partner with Anthony to do the music video Anthony decided to partner with me Anthony was like I'm gonna do the music video for this song yeah well I heard the song and immediately sometimes when you hear a song me and my team this is the fourth music video we've done.
And usually when I hear a song, like, visuals will just pop in my head. And Kat, hearing the song that she had, and it wasn't even done yet, but it was so put together and just so catchy that I was just getting these flashes of very poppy, very bright colors, very, like, I know exactly where we got to go.
And so, and, you know, I pitched her an idea, which she was totally okay with. And she brought her own elements of like, there's got to be a pool.
I was like, of course. I think I had like three non-negotiables.
One was the pool. Yes.
The Sunset Boulevard. Yes.
What was, I probably had one more. You did.
The hot guy. Yes.
The motorcycle. Yes.
I met, so Carlo, Carlo, who's in the music video, he plays the motorcyclist and he plays the hot guy by the pool. You picked, who cast that? Was it him? I was cat.
You casted Carlo. I think I did a majority of the casting and you took care of the crew.
Correct. I would say, yes.
Great job. Yeah, nice job, team.
So now, parenthesis, here is my part in the story because people listening don't know. I get an email from Anthony inviting me, hey, I'm working on this music video.
Do you want to be a part of it? I had no idea. I didn't know it was you because he didn't tell me.
I did not know the song. I did not know anything, but I was like, yes, I'll do it because because i knew your work i knew other things that you had done so i was like no problem i'm sure whoever the artist is i'm sure it's somebody amazing because i thought you know everything that he's working with is gonna but then when i go so i said yes i'll do it for sure and then i when i got to the set and I heard the song and I saw your face, I was like, oh, I'm so happy that I'm here.
I knew this was going to be so much fun. You walked up to me and you immediately just started, oh, my God, this song is going to be on the radio.
I'm going to manifest this for you. This is like you are like you don't even understand.
And you just you were just saying the nicest, most amazing things. Thank you so much for being a part of it.
Thank you for bringing her on. And then I said to you, are those Louboutins? Oh, yeah.
Because he told me, he said, you're going to play a kick-ass music executive that is going to find Kat and is going to bring her to the label and say, look, she's a star. So I'm like, okay, I got to dress the part, right? And you did.
You slayed that. Killed it.
You slayed that little moment where you just tilt those sunglasses down. Backtracking, I had met Carlo.
Carlo's the hot model, by the way, guys. Carlo's the hot model.
We'll put his Instagram somewhere. And I met him.

We were working a movie premiere like maybe over a year ago.

And I just he was so lovely.

We were just having the best talks about film and acting and everything and moving to L.A. and the highs and the lows.

And I'm just looking at him the entire time like this guy.

Like, I'm just wow.

I don't know what I just wow. I was just just eye candy just gorgeous and like a beautiful human inside too you know he's very nice very chill really great guy um what a great group we got together for this really yeah um and i was like i don't know what i'm going to use you for but we're going to do something and then this this rolled around and i was like bingo you sit down to do that thing and bring your bike.
And then him and I have also been talking about possibly doing another project together. So we'll see what comes of that.
And then even before you decided to take on Take You There, I think I was feeling I was in a rut. And I had hit up Anthony a few six months ago.
When did we grab that lunch? Yeah, something like something like six months ago. And I'm like in I was in a low I was in a low.
I didn't know if I wanted to be here. I didn't know what I was doing.
And I was like, Anthony, I feel like has I was like, Anthony, I feel like knows what he's doing. And I really value his work.
And I just want to pick his brain. So we did lunch.
And I told him all these, I guess I started with like film ideas. I was like, these are all my acting ideas.
These are all my project ideas. And he's like, but what about music? He's like, what are you doing with music right now? And I was like, well.
And then I left the lunch feeling like I didn't know if anything would come of it. And then he was like, here's my shot list and treatment for Take You There.
And I was like, oh, OK, cool. You're down to do something.
Oh, my God. I love it.
And I mean, his turnover rate is unreal. Anytime I present something to Anthony, he's on it.
I think we're both doers in that way. And we love collaboration and we love bringing people together.
And it's just such a special thing because that's what we all came here for right oh yeah and i think it's all about energy right i like working with people with great energy that's usually what draws me to certain jobs it's not you know money oriented it's more like the crew who i'm gonna work with and if somebody has like a bad vibe or

bad energy i'm like no but if i feel like a good vibe that's usually what i'm attracted to and like

i said when you send me the email and i knew your past works i was like yes i don't have to know

much and i think that's you see the end result like if you guys go right now go to youtube and

and i'm gonna put your links here on this episode but if you go to youtube and you see the video i'll

Thank you. I think that you see the end result.
Like if you guys go right now, go to YouTube, and I'm going to put your links here on this episode, but if you go to YouTube and you see the video, I'll take you there. It's just such a good vibe video.
The end result is like a fun song. You can be having the shittiest day and you put it on in the morning and it makes you want to dance.
You're suddenly in New York City with the wind in your hair. Exactly.
And you actually posted something on Instagram. You're like, that's how, the music video is exactly how you were feeling.
You try to translate that into the video, right? And kudos to you for, I think, you know, you plant the seed and you have ideas and you have, I think what makes a collaboration is I'm able to bring to the table certain ideas. Ant was able to bring to the table certain ideas.
And he understood what I can't figure out cinematically. You're able to figure out.
But because I love. Yeah, you're great to the camera.
Yeah, you are. You really are.
And I love films so much. And I think that translates in my music.
I think I write very cinematically. And a lot of music videos have little easter eggs from films and stuff like that and um aunt just understood what the girl in that video needed and it was it just it it kind of yeah yeah do you want to make again it makes it very easy when you have a song that's already put together you know what i mean and so i mean you know kat is obviously somebody who's on set always shows up very professionally one thing i never had to worry about on set was the wardrobe changes she just took care of that which was also you know she would come up and be like red or pink which one uh pink made my job much easier so having wardrobe change just on deck thank you very much i'd be like how much how much till places you're like, you got 12 minutes.
I'm like, perfect. Disappear.
I come back a literal different person. Like, oh, I had some flyaways.
Definitely. Like watching the video back.
I'm like, I probably could have used a hair person. But I think that it adds.
Listen, you did an amazing job. I think we're always tough on ourselves.
Like you were saying. And I don't know if you have that, but I've had that many times in in my career like imposter syndrome no matter how how well we do something we always look at our work like do i really deserve this am i doing a good job should i give up you know am i am i a fraud i'm having it right now no i'll kill you no no just kidding too late for that um we won't let you but have you ever felt that way a hundred percent we were talking we we 25 minutes ago We grabbed a coffee.
Oh, yeah. We.
No, just kidding. Too late for that.
We won't let you. But have you ever felt that way? A hundred percent.
We were talking. 25 minutes ago.
We grabbed a coffee. We did grab a coffee before this to kind of just like go over some stuff and possibly talk about future projects in the works.
But we were talking about imposter syndrome. And I think something, all those thoughts definitely ran through before moving to L.A.
And then moving to L.A., it was was like 10 10 times anything i'd ever felt in my life it magnifies everything right the good and the bad i find that the only way i can cope with that is just getting tunnel vision on whatever the work is i get off social media i took a yeah around i think that's what also made me so hyper focused on take you there was I was able to take a social media break. And social media for me, I was in that comparison place.
And you can do that. It was not good for me.
You cannot do that. I remember when I met you that day of the music video, I wanted to tag you because I do have a really big audience.
And I'm like, Kat, I want people to find you. And you were like, I'm not ready.
My social, your account was private. And I was like, girl, open up.
You need to look at social media as your marketing tool. Like, don't compare yourself to others.
Who cares what everybody else is doing? I know it's very hard, but like, you need to open up for your work. and I needed that break but I was like no I understand because yeah it can be it can be

so hard

because obviously

the bigger you get people are vicious they start writing nasty people that don't even know i think about that more than i think about imposter syndrome i think about wow when i start to taste it yeah and i feel that closeness we were talking about that the other day remember when you actually start to feel the feeling of feeling seen and feeling perceived and like all that stuff i'm like whoa and i know chapel rhone is talking about it a lot right now and it's just like because you're gonna get both you're gonna get both ends you just have to have that tunnel vision like you were saying and just do it because you love to do it and because it inspires people and someone gave me a piece of advice about imposter syndrome

and, oh, but somebody else deserves it more

and blah, blah, blah.

It's because you're making it about yourself

and you have to make it about the bigger picture,

which is...

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We love that. Yeah, I don't think it's like somebody else deserves it more.
I think this is my opinion. I don't think we're a competition with anyone.
Each one of us individually offers something so unique as artists. Like my podcast is like nobody else's podcast in the world your music is like no other your vision and so forth so i think it's really stupid about that too like comparing with with other people and going back to chapel lately she's been complaining a lot right like oh i'm in the spotlight oh my god i can't handle it i can't handle it it's hard but so and i'm saying this is what i said when people ask me about it we know what comes with the territory right you know if your song is going to play on the radio you're going to have thousands and thousands of people after you and i think you need to develop the famous alligator skin and just focus, like you said, on your work and focus

on what is important to you.

And don't let distractions distract you.

Really, you need to be real to yourself.

But I think, you know, something to be said about her stance is just safety as a celebrity.

And like, yeah, she talks a lot about like the stalking and the threatening her family. Like there's just like certain things that come with it.
Like you said, it comes with the territory. Like if you don't want to do it.
Well, maybe she can just hire more bodyguards. Exactly.
You hire more security. You hire a great team around you.
Right. You need to be surrounded by people that you really trust.
And it is scary. You have to think all those things through.
I think, you know, a lot of celebrities that started so young, I know when I wanted this as a kid, I didn't think about that. Right.
I just saw Britney and I was like, ah, you know, and then you start to get older and you learn and you understand and some people have that realization very early on and they want to be able to go to the grocery store, you know, and other people are like, well, someone to do that for me i don't really want to waste my time i don't have those issues and i still want somebody else to do it for me yeah yeah there you go same yeah i i call amazon fresh there you go amazon fresh yeah or shop right but it's a personal choice right like that you have to do as an artist if you are an artist and're like, you want to take your art to the next level, that's the choice that you make. Because there are a lot of artists that are like, you know what? I'm happy playing underground.
I'm happy playing like at clubs. Session musicians or something.
Exactly. Or like, no, I want to be like that artist that my songs will be played on the radio.
I want to share my music with millions. It's a choice.
I love Frank Ocean. And he just came into this world, gave us brilliant bodies of work.
And then he's just a recluse. And he just lives wherever he lives in LA.
And really, no one bothers him. And there are many like that.
And I'm like, that's nice. There are many like that.
That's nice. Yeah.
Just drop a couple albums. Yeah.
And you know, there are actors like that. There are actors that make millions of dollars.
They go, they make their movie, and they're not celebrities. You know, there's a big difference between being an actor and a celebrity.
If every actor gets to choose, though, I feel like some people can't. They just receive scrutiny, and they're like, I don't know.
You get to choose because some, look, let me give you an example, right? You live in LA. They know exactly where paparazzi goes.
So you choose that life of a celebrity. You know, you're going to be photographed.
You know, you're going to be in the public eye or you do your movie and you disappear. And in between movies, people find you they have no idea where you are they don't know what you're doing and you never hear from them and there are so many of them like that yeah there's so many this struggle to stay relevant right so it's like there's probably a fear because you you try and you wait so many years to finally get a yes and then you do a movie and you're like well yeah if I disappear now like what if I don't get another movie what if I'm not relevant anymore that's that's where my anxious brain goes I'm like I gotta stay I gotta stay in the spotlight like what if they won't give me another movie well I think you know like I and I think I sent you a message about that like a few days ago because I sometimes every once in a while i hear a little something negative coming from you like your own fear i think of your own success and i would say no don't say that because i really believe yeah yeah shut up and just stay positive exactly well because i i believe i don't know if you think i'm crazy but i believe the universe has ears like i think everything you say out loud becomes your reality yes so if you say something bad you know so i i'm always like you know you need to manifest only amazing things for you for yourself and then i don't even know why because i'm not a psychic or anything i said to kat i said just make sure you're careful with whoever is around you don't't listen to negativity because I know your work is going to grow.
And a lot of people are going to start criticizing you and try to drag you down and call your names. And that's where those negative thoughts usually come from.
So like ignore it. And I don't know why I wrote her that message.
Like just ignore it. Ignore it.
Ignore it. You know, do your own thing.
Don't let it get to you. Well, you hit on something very important right there about the type of people you surround yourself with because that is also a fine line between, like, people who are going to build you up, really help your career, just help your, you know, mindset, but also not just a bunch of yes-men, you know, or yes-women.
People who are going to give you constructive feedback, people who are going to sit you down and say, listen, that really wasn't a good idea. So it's like it it is about who you surround yourself with and you want a good team you want a good friends to just be able to be clear to you yes you want clarity and then having you said another keyword there friends around you but then also differentiating your friend from your professional team oh sure yeah um i think i was just gonna use a therapist as an example like of course i'm going to talk to my friends about my my Oh, sure.
Yeah. for the situation and not just spiral with me in a circle like maybe a friend would.
And I think it's the same thing professionally where it's important to be able to. And some of my over the years, I've collaborated with a lot of my friends and we've had to go through learning curves of what what our boundaries are professionally and friendship wise.
And how do I say this to you without stepping on your toes? And, you I have some friends like I work with one friend who she prioritizes like if we do a photo shoot I get my photos back the next day like she prioritizes it because I'm her friend and other friends put you at the bottom of the list because oh that's a friend I could get to it later that's more kind of like a frenemy i always do you guys have i always worry about those they tell you they're your friend and that's another thing i think i said to you like they tell you they're your friend they're a friend until they see you popping until they see like your work being you know becoming more and more successful or better than theirs yeah and then they're like you know they're the first ones that look at your stories the first one that look at your social media but they're not really your friend because i think a friend is like a million percent supportive they will do anything in this world to put you there yes but most people are not like that. Most people are terrible.

I think that's true.

Right.

Unfortunately.

You heard it here, folks.

Yet I'm the negative one.

Okay.

This is more like reality.

No, no.

It's human nature.

It's true.

I think, you know,

another thing that comes

with moving to L.A.

is a lot of people

move out here alone.

Yeah.

They move out here

with no friends,

no family,

and we are grasping

for dear life

to hold on to anything

that gives us some control,

Yes, anything. So I think that finding those friends is so valuable, like finding those real true friends who I have such a, as you guys were talking, I'm just thinking about my circle of friends that really every time I tell them about something that is going good for me, they really are so happy for me and I'm so happy for them.
And we're at each other's shows. And if we can't make it, there's never any hard feelings because we are all pursuing this same journey.
We have that mutual understanding. And the people that have that frenemy energy, like you said, you got to just keep that tunnel vision and just wish them the best and on their journey.
Cut it's hard. It is hard.
And I think that going back to that Instagram thing, it is hard when I'm, I'm like, I really want to be happy for this person. Why am I angry? Why am I jealous? Why are they getting more opportunities than me? And it's like, I, I, I'm angry with myself cause I want to feel the happiness and I want to be happy for them, but I can't find it.
And it's somewhere lost underneath all that envy. And I'm like, get out of there.
And then I use all those emotions for acting. I think you need to know that your place is like there.
You know, you need to focus on yourself. I know it sounds crazy and it sounds easy at the same time, but it always works.
Like with your music. Yeah, there are millions of other talented singers there, but you need to believe that your song is so fabulous and your voice is so good that you know your place is there waiting for you.
You know what I mean? You just know that with every fiber of your being, nobody can take your spot away from you. And she's got the body of work to support it.
I mean, like, I've told her that, like, you know, like, a song that's always up on my, like, daily mix is her, like, Memory Motel. She's a song that's, like, a year old.
I know. That is such a good one, too.
That is so true. We're talking about Take You There, Take You There, Take You There.
But, yeah, you have other really good songs. My first EP was was called memory motel and i just um i just was talking to my friend the friend that does photos for me as well um shout out marissa she um she sent me this huge amazing beautiful poem that she wrote she just randomly texted it to me and i go oh wow this is almost like if memory motel had a 2.0 and she was like yeah I listened to memory motel and then I wrote the poem like it straight up she's like I can't believe you made that correlation and going back to to what we were kind of talking about is like you know it may be old to me it's new to somebody else it's still inspiring you guys which is incredible to me I'm like wow something that i wrote in 2020 is still resonating with people and then um uh lost my train of thought yeah it's just it just blows my mind oh uh doing it you know when you have those moments of imposter syndrome and you make it about yourself and then remembering like wow this little song that i wrote that maybe i thought nobody was ever going to hear is like inspiring my closest friends.
Like that is so valuable to me and so cool. I'm like someone that maybe has never written a long poem before just wrote one because they listen to my song.
Like that is so cool. You never know what it is that it's going to really like kick off for somebody.
Like, you know, once you I'm a firm believer that once you put the work out there, you kind of don't own it anymore. You kind of like exercise that beast for you.
I agree with you. You know, it's done.
It's out there. Let anybody who enjoyed, who wants to enjoy it.
Anthony was texting me a lot after the video and he was like, do you not want people to hear this part of the song? Do you not want me to post this clip yet? Do you want me to like wait on this? And I go, I go, Anthony, leak it. Yeah go come on leak it i think we all know this is an insanely tough industry right it's oh yeah i don't know if it's the toughest but probably one of the toughest and we are in the most competitive place in the world for this industry and a lot of artists come here every day thinking that it's going to be easy.
Right. Right.
And that's why so many people get disappointed. I hear that all the time.
They come from, like you said, many times alone and they say, oh, I'm going to try this out for a year and I'm going to see how it goes. Oh, I'm going to try this out.
I get messages from people all over the world because I do the podcast. They're like'm gonna start a podcast how do i make money how can i and i start laughing because i'm like i hope you know how much work you have to put into this before you use the word money you know before you grow an audience like anything right like connecting singing so i think for me the key is every time you're doubting yourself like the hardest days i know it sounds

crazy so i think for me the key is every time you're doubting yourself like the hardest days i know it sounds crazy but i think the day that you're really thinking about giving up is the day that you have to be the strongest i don't know i don't know why like the day you say you know fuck this shit i'm gonna move i'm gonna i'm gonna give up day that you really, really, really got to be even stronger and say, you know what? Because that's usually the turning point that you're doing something right, if that makes sense. Yes.
Because it's so hard. Like he said, you know, you put the music video out there, you never know it.
Maybe it's that one day that the right person is going to look at it and call you. You know what I mean? You just got to keep going.

It's about following your bliss, quote Joseph Campbell. You know what I mean? Like if it's really something that makes you happy, that's what you should just be doing.
you know yeah going back to money i think anthony and i surrendered that idea a long time ago and i

think yeah same i i think too yeah i think it's i know for i i could maybe speak for you but like

i can't not do this. Every time I try to quit and I say, my friends are like, so I go home.
They're like, how's music going? I quit. Every time someone asks me how it's going, I tell them I quit because it's really, it's a daily gymnastics of having to like convince yourself.
I'm all right. I'm going to do, I'm doing this because I don't have a choice choice it's something that i wake up every day and i'm like all right i'm doing this and actually i woke up this morning and i said to myself this is so easy so what you were saying like it's the toughest industry but those those affirmations of like no speak it into existence this is very easy i have the most amazing people in my life unlimited resources the best collaborate collaborators who i I believe in wholeheartedly.
And I feel so lucky that I get to work with someone like Ant and my producer, like just you and just everyone around me is just so talented and has the purest intentions. And it's any I mean, I'm like, this is easy.
What are you talking about? You have an incredible voice. I mean, you cannot shut up.
You cannot stop singing because your voice is like fantastic.

Thank you. I'm like, this is easy.
What are you talking about, Tom? And you have an incredible voice. I mean, you cannot shut up.
You cannot stop singing because your voice is like fantastic. It's really good.
Obviously, you compose your songs, which is something huge for a singer, right, Anthony? Very big. Yeah.
Don't have like 24 collaborators on the writing credits. So nicely done, Kat.
I'll write for you too if you want. Just call me.
You're writing. If anybody needs a songwriter, here it is.
So what's next for you? Oh my goodness. Well, I'm working on my album right now.
Okay. It is a fully independent project.
I'm going to beat myself up at how many times I said um. I already know it.
It's a fully independent project and I don't know what else to say about it. Not to spoil anything, but I did get to hear some sneak peeks.
Oh, yeah. On the car ride over here.
Okay. Really good.
Anthony is completely hands-on in a majority of the music video and i'm just really excited it's it's a love letter to performing a love letter to hollywood a love letter to new york and it's just been so much fun i am having a blast making this album again not getting so caught up in the stress of it and the money and not having this and not having that and just focusing on what i do have which is good ass songs good ass collaborators and fun yes i'm just trying to stick to that fun and just having a blast and everything else falls into place right like follow your dreams follow your dreams do it from a place focus on their music focus on the art and that's how i do all my work like i focus on something that i love if i feel like i'm doing something from a place of love and passion everything else falls into place because when the time comes and we can't go to the grocery store anymore and we're not maybe calling all of our own shots and there is a team in place kind of you know some other people we have to listen to i'm gonna look back and be like remember when we were just like at coda's pool filming the music video and yeah remember there wasn't a video village full of uh you know managers saying oh can you switch that out that sucks you know i am so glad that you united us i am so honored that you invited me to be a part of this project thank you so much thank you for for choosing me i have no idea why but i'm very grateful and now you are my like fairy godmother that's how i feel about you i know i think you're adorable from the bottom of my heart everything i say to you it's in the name from my yeah it's i mean yes you are a, we have special powers. It's true.
And I hope I get to work with you guys together again. Do you have anything new coming up? I'm writing right now.
You're writing? Movie? Yes. Writing a feature and writing a short.
So we'll see what happens first. But my day job is also VFX to pay the bills.
Yeah. Whichever one happens first.
You know, let's see what happens first but my day job is also vfx so to pay the bills so yeah uh whichever one happens first you know let's see what happens i know we all have like 10 million jobs right because we have 10 million bills to pay but it will all pay off i'm sure i'm like you said 10 million movies to make yeah like you're paying your bills so far we're trying we're trying some of them some of them some of them but you guys are incredible this was really seriously one of the most fun jobs I've ever done it's a really fun music video it's on YouTube it's doing getting thousands and thousands of views on YouTube right guys so please go check it out the song is called I'll Take You There Kat do you want to sing A little chunk Chunk, chunk, chunk I'll help you Do you want to do the chorus? What are you doing? Okay, one, two, three All three of us Let's do it I want to take you there New York City With the wind in my hair I want to take you there Cruising down sunset Golden hour silhouette I swear that these Are the good days We're about nothing And I'm getting paid I wanna take you there I, I, I wanna take you there That was beautiful. I was like, what if he doesn't know the lyrics? I'm like, with the editing that you did on that video.
Yeah I didn't know the lyrics at this point, that would be so embarrassing. Bad, bad.
But you did really great. Thank you.
It's a fabulous, adorable song. It's going to be playing on the radio very soon.
But in the meantime, you guys can listen to it everywhere, right? Take You There is out now. It's available on every streaming service.
It's available on YouTube. And stay tuned for the next single.
Wait. The music video is on YouTube, but the song, if somebody wants to listen right now, if they're listening to Kind of Losing Your Car and you want to listen to the song, it's on Spotify.
Apple Music. Apple Music.
Tidal. YouTube Music.
Tidal. Amazon Music.
Amazon. Everywhere you listen to your freaking music.
So please, guys, download. I'll take you there.
It's fun. It's fabulous.
You have no excuse. Yeah.
And remember this, if you are listening to the audio episode, make sure you go watch the video episode so you can see these gorgeous faces. Remember this baby face because I've been manifesting it and I'm rarely wrong.
She's going to be a huge huge... Don't forget your poor friends when you're up there.
Oh my are you kidding me when you're like Sabrina Carpenter level you're not going anywhere it's funny take me there I'm still gonna be like calling you like Kat I need an outfit you're not going anywhere I know I love you with all my heart you're fabulous thank you so much for doing Cat on the Loose, guys. You are incredible.
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