The Lord & The Lady ft. Scott Disick

Speaker 1 Lord Disick, I know you don't do podcasts. I don't do anything for you, though, Cook.
You are father extraordinaire. I do explain to Mason how drinking affected me.

Speaker 1 I'm not treating you any different because of my mistakes or how I live. But if I see a problem, I will take action.
Do you remember when we wrestled? Crazy, drunk wrestled? Oh, Paris.

Speaker 1 Courtney kicked you out of the car. He threw up on your driver.
My mom is going to.

Speaker 1 An embarrassment. That's how rumors get started.
I don't know how many people remember this, but... Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 This is more than a show. It's a window into my world and the stories that make it meaningful.
Welcome to Chloe in Wonderland.

Speaker 1 Number one, you are the very first person that is recording with

Speaker 1 in my pocket. Oh, I didn't know this.
I don't know if it's going to be episode one. Oh.
But you're going to be able to do that. That's bullshit.
It is bullshit. So I'm like the guinea pig? Yes.

Speaker 1 And then I'm not even the the first up. Well, I don't know.
Oh, because you probably get somebody more famous than me. No, it just depends what you give me.
That's horse manure.

Speaker 1 Well, hey, let's see what you got. I'll give you everything I've always wanted to give you.
But thank you. I know you don't do podcasts.
I would do anything for you, though, Chloe. Thank you.

Speaker 1 You know that. Have you ever done a podcast?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Shut up. I was asked to do one, though, the other day when I was in Vegas.
These guys who have a podcast asked me to do one, and I just said, yeah, but. And you didn't? You was bailed? I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 It's a good one, though, and I would if I did them. Why didn't you do it?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just feel like if it's not within our family, the last thing I want to be asked is about our family.
Get it.

Speaker 1 And then maybe I answer something a little bit weird, and then I have 87 fucking people writing me on the group chat. How could you say this or that?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't want our group to talk about anything. Vicious.
Like, imagine if they were like, so is Chris Jenner really what she's like in real life? And I'm like, yeah, she's lovely.

Speaker 1 And then they turn it around somehow. And then she's like, so you don't think I'm lovely? I just, I don't, I don't want all that stress.
It's a lot of stress. It's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 And I've been in like interviews where I'm like, you could just ask about me. And then it turns immediately.
I had something happen recently. I was doing a car.

Speaker 1 segment and they told me they were going to ask me just about my vehicles and I'm into cars, right?

Speaker 1 And I sit down in a chair in my house and I thought it was about the cars and

Speaker 1 this first question is about you and

Speaker 1 Lamar. And I was like, what about?

Speaker 1 I was like, is this a tele?

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 But like, what a throwback couple. But right, and I'm like,

Speaker 1 what's going on here? So it was a total decoy to try to like get me to talk about intense shit. So I had to, I stopped.
What year was this? Recently? Like fuck a few months ago.

Speaker 1 That was probably the last time I've done an interview. And that was kind of like, this is exactly why I don't do interviews.
Yeah, and it's scary.

Speaker 1 And I think with podcasts, anything, like they, even doing this, it was really intimidating for me because people will twist your words around. It's not the same how it was years ago.

Speaker 1 No, now anything you say can be used against you or it's not politically correct. And I know how you and I talk sometimes.
It's not

Speaker 1 perfect. It's not correct.
Yeah. No, And we're not trying to offend anybody, but we're just used to being who we are.
And being normal. Being normal, but the new normal is fucking bizarre.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everything is twisted upside down. Even when I'm with May sometimes and he's looking at Insta, TikTok, this one, that one.
I'm like, the information that they get

Speaker 1 so much more than we had.

Speaker 1 Like, I remember it being hard to find a naked girl to jerk off to. Literally.

Speaker 1 Like, when i was 14 i would have to find like a playboy somewhere well do you remember going to your parents house and looking wasn't your mom in playboy no what was she no she worked at a playboy mansion okay we were down in your basement oh and she had the outfit the playboy bunny bunny yeah and pictures i remember one of the bonnie the bunny yeah and i think in manhattan it was like one of hefner

Speaker 1 playboy mansion yes that's what it was okay she wasn't a nude model. That's how rumors get started.
Yeah. So speaking of your kids, I think it's so crazy to think of when,

Speaker 1 I mean, I first met you. You really are, I would say, the king of reinvention.

Speaker 1 We have Lord Disick.

Speaker 1 We have Scott.

Speaker 1 We have... Dicknad.
Douchebag. No, just kidding.
Oh, yeah. Then we have Douche Lord.
Douche Kabob. You are, I think, father extraordinaire.
I do really like the father thing.

Speaker 1 But it's crazy how many, and I know that is a part of life, the evolution of life, the different chapters we have, but think about to when I first met you. Oh, my God.
We were

Speaker 1 kids. We were kids, right? Really? When I first met you.
Like 23.

Speaker 1 22.

Speaker 1 And I was a young 22.

Speaker 1 You think? I mean.

Speaker 1 I didn't come off that way and I felt like I tried to overcompensate by trying to make pretend that I was mature and knew what I was doing, but I really didn't.

Speaker 1 Like, I was definitely like relying on my parents for things. And, like, I wasn't like a big shot on my own, like, running a business, knewing what I was doing.

Speaker 1 Like, it was definitely like calling home. Like, I probably need money to like take court on a date.
Yeah, but isn't that how every 22-year-old is?

Speaker 1 Well, yes, but at the time, you know, your sister was older than me by five years. So, like, I was trying to be more mature than I really was, but I was a kid, you know, like it's my first, like, real

Speaker 1 relationship. And, you know, it progressed fast.
And then we were living together. That was, you know, my first time, I think, really living with someone.
And it's so weird because I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Because we're you too. I know, because Court and I were living together.
And then you and Court met. And what's weird is I don't know why I

Speaker 1 hated you so much from the start. Like I didn't even give you.

Speaker 1 You did give me a chance. I think you think? Yeah.
I felt like I was gun-ho- and like, no, this guy's a dick, and I just don't like you. No.

Speaker 1 I did some things that

Speaker 1 weren't right. I just don't remember.
Yeah. We were fine.
Who? You and him? Yeah. There came a time where you were like, yo, you're fuck you.

Speaker 1 And then. Right, but I felt like I didn't like you.
No, it wasn't like you. Okay.
Well, good. My memory doesn't serve me correctly.
Yeah, no, you were totally fine. I just was not.

Speaker 1 a great person and you were like yo I like you but you're a fucking asshole at that point in my life and i was like when i look back i'm like i can't believe anybody tolerated that kind of shit

Speaker 1 but it's also what made you you

Speaker 1 sure

Speaker 1 and i also think the evolution of you and the growth of you is such a beautiful thing i mean i consider you one of my best friends and i love you so much

Speaker 1 And I don't think we would be where we are now with the current for

Speaker 1 all of those situations.

Speaker 1 yes for sure because the bad no we've had we went through a lot for sure a lot of ups and downs i think a lot of me not liking you was yes what you did but also i felt like you were encroaching on my territory too i just thought you were being protective and being smart okay we could keep it there then sure i was being smart i like to hear that i mean you were honestly you're just protecting your sister and Looking back, I would have probably done the same.

Speaker 1 I mean, the really amazing thing about our relationship, yours with the entire family, is that you were around before the show even started. Yeah, which I think is a nice thing.
It's a great thing.

Speaker 1 I think it's an amazing thing. And just all of us on this journey together, I think is so special.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I don't think, I don't know how many people realize that you were on the show because there's new viewers of the show. I think the other shows definitely know.
Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 1 But what did your parents think? Like, what did your friends think back at home about starting this venture with your girlfriend girlfriend and her family and all of us

Speaker 1 i mean you remember my parents they liked it they loved it because they were just like

Speaker 1 we hate that you live in california but if we can see you on tv it's good enough for us because like we didn't have face time probably

Speaker 1 imagine if they had face time when they were alive i'd have been

Speaker 1 They would have called me 97 times a day on FaceTime. They already did call you all the time.
No, but not on FaceTime. Right.
Because we didn't have that yet. Right.

Speaker 1 So I got... Crazy, no FaceTime.
Yeah. No Instagram.
There was none of that. They had some, they had like my sister.

Speaker 1 They just had like the tabloids. Oh, yeah.
And that was a problem. Yeah.
Every day. They're like, you got Chloe pregnant? I'm like, yes, dad, I got Chloe pregnant.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, I'll call you later. I'm like,

Speaker 1 you know, they were all pregnant.

Speaker 1 But that's what they would say on the front of the like every week. It was a different sister I got pregnant.
I'm like, where's the kids?

Speaker 1 It's crazy when I, so I did a poll, like, who do you guys want on my podcast? And you were the number one person that got requested to be on my podcast. And then my number one question was,

Speaker 1 well, I think there's two questions. Have you and I ever hooked up? Fuck you.

Speaker 1 No, we haven't.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I didn't know if this was related to you and I or just in general. Why aren't we married? I don't know if that's like together or why aren't we married?

Speaker 1 But I don't know which one it was. Or do they mean to each other? That's what I'm saying.
I don't know. That's a huge difference.
Well, nobody specified who might ask. Well, how do we ask? The polars?

Speaker 1 But I don't care to give it a lot of attention. Right, that would be a little weird.
Do you find it strange? I mean, for marriage? No, no, I don't find that strange. For years, people

Speaker 1 have always ran with this narrative about

Speaker 1 either you hooking up with Kendall. I've always seen a lot.
It's either been the Kendall or me. And I'm like, I don't even know if you and Kendall hang out that much because she's always just busy.

Speaker 1 I don't think it has any truth so that they just run with anything. You know what I mean? Just like, oh, look at their relationship.
They're close. Boom.
Let's just say something ridiculous.

Speaker 1 It's so nasty. But yeah.
And then people with us, because we get along well, people are like, they're soulmates. Like, bro, I have children with her sister.
Yeah, it's one. Not soulmates.

Speaker 1 It's, I obviously say a lot of gross things that are probably too much. But you know that.
That's just who I am. You know, it's your humor.
But obviously I'm not serious.

Speaker 1 Like, and I, I've even like the fact that people think that is psychotic. But I guess if I was watching a show and I wanted to be entertainment, you know, I guess I would jump to those two.

Speaker 1 Like, oh my God. Well, the crazy thing is if we actually were together, we would be annihilated for it.
So it's like people.

Speaker 1 Do you know what I mean? Like no one's going to be able to do it. It would be pretty crazy.
Well, yeah, it's disgusting.

Speaker 1 But it would be totally fine in like two weeks these days.

Speaker 1 Like after two weeks of like annihilation, it would be like, and it worked. It's a while.
It's psychotic. It's psychotic.

Speaker 1 Where was the turning point in our relationship that made, because I don't remember exactly. Why turn you around?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like where it turned, because we had a rothy start. And then it, once it turned good, I feel like we never got off that track.
Even if we don't agree on something, we don't ever.

Speaker 1 like hate each other or before it was very apparent our disdain for one another, or how frustrated I was. Yeah, if we have a problem now, we like talk it through.
But what do you think was the turn?

Speaker 1 I honestly think it was probably just me being

Speaker 1 a little bit better of like maturity or something or growing up, a drop. And you were like, all right, let me give them another chance.
And then we became friends.

Speaker 1 And I think when we moved to the Hamptons,

Speaker 1 we became closer and we'd spend more time together again.

Speaker 1 I kind of

Speaker 1 think it was that far. No, maybe not.
Maybe not. No, it wasn't.
It was way before that. I feel like maybe just when we moved out, like when I moved out and you and Court had your own space.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.
Well, because when we lived together, we really never saw you. So it wasn't like it really mattered.

Speaker 1 Okay, so something that you and I talk about a lot privately is the fame aspect. And I think it's easy for us to say, like, people, this is an awkward

Speaker 1 because you always want what you don't have so people when you complain about fame people like oh must be yeah yada yada but what are for you

Speaker 1 what are the pros and cons to fame like how do you deal with it what do you think the only real pro is money right and then everything else is a gone i agree but it you know i i see sometimes when people like will come up to me or something if i'm in public and like there's let's say people asking me stuff, or there's photographers, and they're like, How do you deal with this?

Speaker 1 And I always say, you know, you take the good with the bad, you go with the good and the bad with the bad. Like, there's a price to pay for everything.

Speaker 1 You know, if I was working at Fortune 500, I'd be working my ass off and stressed out and be in an office all day and not be able to see my children as much. And I'd be stressed out to another level.

Speaker 1 But with this, you're just noticed wherever you are, and it can be frustrating and difficult. But, you know, it's just like any job like there's perks and then there's the negatives but

Speaker 1 you can also like you and I I feel like have learned to navigate living our lives in a way where we don't really feel that famous because we know where to go

Speaker 1 where to not not leave at certain times I know but isn't that sad how calculated we have to be in order like there's no way you or I could just like

Speaker 1 be set up on a random date and like just like go to a random restaurant with somebody we don't know and go have a drink and be like oh i wanted to meet them and see what's up now that we are both parents what advice would you give your kids do you want them to be a part of this

Speaker 1 i feel like it's up to them yeah they don't seem

Speaker 1 very interested but i remember kylie and kendall at their age not being interested at all and not wanting to do the show or be on the show or having any part of it.

Speaker 1 And at that time, I don't think they even knew what it was or what it was going to be, but they definitely were like, We're going to school. Like, you guys can film.

Speaker 1 Even though they were like on the show, but like at a

Speaker 1 fault. Right.
Just like if the cameras were rolling, they were in the background type thing.

Speaker 1 But it's crazy to think what they've become.

Speaker 1 Now, look at the 13 or 14 grandkids.

Speaker 1 When they all become of age, what they could do is like a royal rumble of the world it's terrifying it's insane it is terrifying because look at what two girls did i know like kendall and kylie

Speaker 1 blew up a whole society of their age that's a good way to look at it it really is 13 different personalities hitting on different demographics i am so terrified just for oh my god storm shy true and dream to be teenagers at the same time i am terrified and then you have the older North, niece, this one, that one.

Speaker 1 So if they're going out, they're going to be like, oh, there's my cousin. Oh, there's my, oh, this whole club's my cousin.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 It's going to be insane. And imagine the guy on the microphone having a name drop.
Every person there. No, it's going to be a problem.
You dream, though, this one, that one, North.

Speaker 1 Like, we were killing it with four of us going out, five of us going out. Killing it.
Like when we first got famous, it was like, oh, we're going out. It's wild.
Think about them in Vegas.

Speaker 1 Remember our Vegas nights?

Speaker 1 Imagine them going 15 deep,

Speaker 1 like with their friends. And like,

Speaker 1 it's just crazy.

Speaker 1 We were a tsunami of craziness. I can't imagine them.
And now it's such a different thing because people look at you so different just because of even like social followings.

Speaker 1 Like Mason decided to get Instagram the other day because we let him. He got a million followers like within a day or two, not posting a photo.
And for some people, that's like

Speaker 1 their life dream. Like, oh, my God, followers.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So for them, they don't even care. But like, their whole network is so ginormous, they don't even understand yet.
No, they don't have a clue because they also grew up with it.

Speaker 1 I think out of all your kids, I think Rain would be the one that's the most comfortable in front of the camera. I think he'd want it the most.

Speaker 1 Like he'd want to be

Speaker 1 camera up. He's like,

Speaker 1 he's ready to carry. He is the funniest kid, has the craziest personality and voices.
He's wild. You don't even know what happened this morning.
What?

Speaker 1 So we're all having like breakfast before they go to school. And

Speaker 1 one of our nannies, Allie, and she's great and he loves her.

Speaker 1 And he pulls me aside in the morning. He's like,

Speaker 1 Did you hear anything last night? I go,

Speaker 1 no. He goes,

Speaker 1 very loud. I go, it was loud.
I go, what are you talking about? He goes,

Speaker 1 I mean, Allie. I go,

Speaker 1 Rand, what are you talking about? He goes,

Speaker 1 Ellie was dancing again last night. I go, she was dancing.
He goes, yes. What does that mean? She sneaks men in at night.
She dances, and the men just shower money on her.

Speaker 1 and make you ready

Speaker 1 i swear to you i go so your nanny exotic dances at night for money in your house yeah when we're sleeping he's like

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 eminally overhears him and she's like yeah rain

Speaker 1 he's lying right of course okay he's lying she's not dancing i didn't know what you were saying out of my head he's what nine he's wild yeah about almost he's gonna be 10 in december And he is.

Speaker 1 Two weeks.

Speaker 1 And this is what he said. Oh, my God.
But he was so like serious. Stone cold face.
I mean, I obviously didn't believe him, but I just wanted him to tell the story. So I was like, keep going.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I mean, yeah, the guys were making it rain. They were throwing money.
And, you know, she just does what she does. And I was like, maybe it's a Christmas bonus.
Also, like you.

Speaker 1 He's wild. He is wild.

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Speaker 1 Would you ever let your kids watch the show, like old episodes? Yeah, I think it's cute that like they have,

Speaker 1 you know, like a lot of families show their kids albums of pictures. We're able to show them full videos of our lives, of them being born, of them like growing up, you know.

Speaker 1 I just think the version, which I would too. I mean, I would be mortified for so much that my kids would have to see.

Speaker 1 But the version you are right now and the version you were then, like sticking $100 bills down waiters' throats.

Speaker 1 I thought about that just now. Yelling at people like

Speaker 1 that. But the truth is, I do explain to Mason,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 how drinking affected me and how badly it put me in certain places. That's good.
And he knows that. And he, for a while, thought I was going to treat him differently because of that.

Speaker 1 And I said, I'm not treating you any different because of my mistakes or how I lived.

Speaker 1 But if I see a problem with alcohol with you, I will take action.

Speaker 1 But other than that, you are just like every other kid. You're going to try drinking when you're going to try drinking.

Speaker 1 But if I see a problem that might be hereditary, then I'll jump in. But until then, you're treated like every other kid.
But I think that's an amazing love.

Speaker 1 Have him see the crazy.

Speaker 1 It's funny that he hasn't seen some of these things. Maybe.

Speaker 1 You also, maybe if he sees the the outlandishness of you like the miami days and all that maybe that would prevent him from drinking yeah because he'll see how well like my dad is a real dick then but he also knows how incredible you are now so it's not like you're still like this but no definitely but you know you're right and i think that's a great way to look at it because he is a gonna be a teenage when he's 15, but he's gonna be experimenting when he's older.

Speaker 1 And it's good that you say that to him because you still got to let him be a kid. But also, no, I do know what could happen if someone doesn't really know.

Speaker 1 I talk to him all the time about it. And I'm just like,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 it could take you down a really bad road or it could be a really fun road.

Speaker 1 You know, like,

Speaker 1 I feel like Kendall and Kylie are a perfect example of like, they'll go out, they have some drinks, and they're like

Speaker 1 the perfect mix of like

Speaker 1 didn't even drink. Right.

Speaker 1 Like Kendall and Kylie, they have a few drinks and they have fun and they're good, but nothing more. And me and Court were slob kebabs.

Speaker 1 Well, court stopped kind of after the first kid, but

Speaker 1 not me.

Speaker 1 Well, you only get drunk when you get drunk. You drink to get fucked.
Yeah. And that's when it's happened.
Like, it's a rare occasion, but when it happens,

Speaker 1 it's full force. It happens.
Do you remember when we wrestled in the

Speaker 1 like straight up crazy drunk wrestled in the middle of that.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Versailles.

Speaker 1 Oh, Paris. Yes, on the floor.
Yeah, in the Versailles. And people were like, guys, this is like a museum.
You can't be wrestling and throwing things. We're like, fuck everyone.
No, it was.

Speaker 1 It's through all Kenya.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was Kim and Kanye's.

Speaker 1 What's that wedding? So it was the wedding, but it's like a party before the wedding. I know Lana Del Rey was like singing while we were fighting about it.
Oh, God. It was miserable.

Speaker 1 It's so embarrassing. Kim and Kanye rented the entire

Speaker 1 Palace of Versailles.

Speaker 1 Scott and I weren't aware that the wedding location was going to be

Speaker 1 elsewhere. We were flying to Italy the next week.
So we were in London. No, we were in Paris.
I don't know. Yep.
We were in Paris. We were staying in the four seasons.
Okay, good. We were in Paris.

Speaker 1 You're right. You're right.
You and I were having a drinking competition. Oh, my God.
And I took an entire bottle of vodka, drank it. I was also going through a divorce.

Speaker 1 I was like not in the best place. And you and I started wrestling on the floor in front of thousands of people.
It might have been my birthday.

Speaker 1 Maybe. It's around that time.
Yeah. And I was like, I'm trying to do that.
Courtney kicked you out of the car. You threw up on your driver.

Speaker 1 My mom kicked me out of the room and was like, you're an embarrassment. She's like, you're disgusting.

Speaker 1 I don't know if she said those words, but I mean, she was like yelling at me and Courtney was yelling at you. And we were like shamed in the hallway.
Oh, it was. fell asleep.

Speaker 1 I remember Kendall and Kylie walked by, and everyone was like, You got to get up, we have to catch a flight to go. That was the craziest waking up.

Speaker 1 The wedding, and everyone, and I was like, You guys are assholes for not waking up, like telling us to stop earlier. I think I slept in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 I threw up.

Speaker 1 I, and they're like,

Speaker 1 We're getting on a plane, we're going to Italy. And I'll be like, I was so drunk at the wedding, but I drank the day before.
It was horrible. It was horrible.
Oh,

Speaker 1 they really needed to tell, but they needed to take their alcohol. a fly the next day at 7.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was horrible. But that was so crazy to look back at that.
And now,

Speaker 1 obviously, you'd still have fun, but we would never be throwing bottles around and wrestling through the Versailles.

Speaker 1 I hope. I mean, who knows? That was fun, actually.

Speaker 1 Could do it again.

Speaker 1 But the hangover. Oh, my God.
Do you think because you are an only child, you got away with so much more? Like, I wonder, I think we

Speaker 1 having siblings, like we hold each other accountable.

Speaker 1 Where when you're an only child, no one's there to like either rat you out or tell you. Or to talk about things in a real way.

Speaker 1 Like my parents didn't really know how to discuss certain things and relate it back to them and say, you know, I've been through this and I could help you here. Let me tell you a story about myself.

Speaker 1 Whereas Mace or P or anybody, like Mason especially like if he's going through something you know i talk to him about my life and like mistakes that i did and i'm like here's what i've done what's worked for me what hasn't worked for me and like even recently like he's starting to really like girls and obviously girls like him and i just said you know it's like you could do whatever you want

Speaker 1 just don't lie and don't manipulate any girls.

Speaker 1 So if a girl tells you she wants to maybe do something with you and like hook up or whatever,

Speaker 1 if she knows that like you're not in a relationship with her, don't tell her you are just to get something out of her. And he's like, no, I know, I get it.
And I hear him on the phone.

Speaker 1 He's like, we could, we, we can't, what, but we're friends.

Speaker 1 And he tells him straight up, like, because that's where it's fucked up, like manipulating a girl to say, I love you, I love you, I want to be with you, I want to be with you just to like get somewhere.

Speaker 1 Right. And then the next day, you're with someone else.
So I said, listen, you can do whatever you want as long as you're honest.

Speaker 1 And, you know, honesty is the best policy. But back in our day, it wasn't so easy.
Like, you know, if you met someone, it was like, okay, I got to, you know, do whatever it takes. Well, I also got.

Speaker 1 But I also think now, because of social or this or that, it's so transparent to who they are. You can't really arrive these days.

Speaker 1 Where back in the day, we could live double lives and no one would know about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't even imagine. Like, they have no way of being

Speaker 1 hiding anything. No.

Speaker 1 Right. No.
How are you with dating around the kids? Like that's separate?

Speaker 1 Or is it like do you discuss that with them? Do they ask you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I kind of told them that, like.

Speaker 1 Because they're older, I imagine. Yeah, they ask me.
They'd like me to be with somebody, I think. And they, you know, they do voice to me that they'd like me to be with someone.

Speaker 1 And I kind of say, like,

Speaker 1 until I I find the right person, I don't really want to bring another person

Speaker 1 around unless it's like the end-all, be-all person, just because I don't want them to get attached to somebody else. But

Speaker 1 I have to do my thing too, or I'll never meet anyone. But, like,

Speaker 1 they're all like starting to get older. And it's not that much longer until, like, they're of age, all of them.
So, for the next like five, six, seven years, if like

Speaker 1 my attention is on them,

Speaker 1 I have the rest of my life to be

Speaker 1 a single guy. Like

Speaker 1 right now, it's a guy I like that my focus is on them. And if I was with somebody else, like, yeah, I'd still be a good dad, but I would have somebody that I would be putting on a pedestal

Speaker 1 near them.

Speaker 1 I mean, if I weren't in my situation, I would be like, Scott, this is bullshit. But because

Speaker 1 I feel the same. Right.
They're kind of in the same thing.

Speaker 1 I feel like my kids are, yes, men are younger than yours, but they're just my top priority. And I don't care about dating.
I don't know what will happen in a couple of years or next year.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I'm, I'm not dating. I don't care to.
Like my focus is just my kids. But I think if I wasn't in my situation, I'd be like, you're so full of shit.
But I totally get it.

Speaker 1 And I think it's the smart. To me, I think it's the smartest thing.
Well, look, I mean,

Speaker 1 you know, my youngest is 10, right? So in eight years, he graduates high school.

Speaker 1 In eight years, I'll still be able to do my thing. I mean, I feel like in eight years, you and I both will find someone.
For sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just not that worried about it. Like, I feel like

Speaker 1 the right person, if they're meant to be, they'll come. But I'm just like, I don't want to like search and

Speaker 1 be disappointed.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think it's so different.
And I, by the way, a lot of people I know that are not famous are in like these long relationships and they're breaking up. That's crazy.
But I keep hearing.

Speaker 1 Where are you going? Yeah, the grass is not always greener. You got to water your own grass sometimes.
Is that like masturbating?

Speaker 1 No. Oh.
Just water your own grass. But I meant just like

Speaker 1 prioritize

Speaker 1 your relationship. And water yourself.

Speaker 1 with your partner like if you're in with someone for like 12 15 years dude they're don't start over you're good but no like these are people that are like that's what i'm saying but they're like straight up

Speaker 1 no they're not

Speaker 1 like it wasn't like

Speaker 1 there was no option what would you say you've

Speaker 1 like in terms of vulnerability or what you want to give to your next partner. Like what would that

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 that you would do differently from the past? Like, do you want to be more vulnerable or do you feel like staying guarded is the way to be?

Speaker 1 I don't think I was like guarded or anything in my last relationship,

Speaker 1 you know?

Speaker 1 I don't think that was like a problem in our relationship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's not like a huge thing I think about. I just.

Speaker 1 So even being in the limelight and stuff, you feel like you're pretty open when you meet people?

Speaker 1 Like when I'm deep into a relationship and I trust somebody and like love somebody which is a rare thing right i've only been in a few relationships but like my last one i trusted the girl i was with very much and told her everything that i felt in the world and

Speaker 1 was totally like a good fine thing you know good so it hasn't hardened you no

Speaker 1 like my last relationship was good It was just kind of like we were in different places at different times in our lives and we know that I've tended to date a little younger than I should

Speaker 1 and are you gonna stick with that are you gonna try to go a little older I can't go well so what's your age maybe range but like

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 I'll get back with her when she gets older

Speaker 1 but she'll still be the same

Speaker 1 yeah but she'll be matured then and older and been through life a little bit and gotten fucked over

Speaker 1 had some heartbreak and

Speaker 1 learned the rules of life. So that's a little cheat code.
Yeah, like let them go. Let them go.
And if they come back,

Speaker 1 it's meant to be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they needed like some time. Okay.
It's kind of great because it gives me a time to like be with my kids. Got it.
And you come back

Speaker 1 when you're ready and you've gotten like some life lessons in you. What are the things you both love and dislike the most about each other?

Speaker 1 I mean, honestly, I feel

Speaker 1 like with you,

Speaker 1 the things that I

Speaker 1 once disliked from you, I like love. Like they're just who makes you up.

Speaker 1 Like, but I don't even, I just think we have such a relationship where you're literally like my brother that it's everything you do. Like if my brother annoys me, it's like,

Speaker 1 like it's

Speaker 1 oh, yeah. No, I don't have a doubt.
Even if I don't talk to you for weeks or like you can call me at any time and you're my wife, I'm obsessed with you.

Speaker 1 I feel like I could go to you with like anything in the world.

Speaker 1 It's so weird. I'm so happy that I have you.
I know. I'm so happy that we all have each other.

Speaker 1 I would say the only thing that annoys me sometimes is we don't see each other enough and we live so damn close to each other

Speaker 1 that it feels like

Speaker 1 We don't live near each other when we could walk to each other's houses.

Speaker 1 Well, I was gonna say the only thing that really annoys me about you is when you say you're gonna come to something and then you don't show up. Right.

Speaker 1 I was thinking you were going to do that to me today. Never.
And I said, well, my mom is right next door. I could always pull her up.
No, I would never do that. Well, I didn't know.
No.

Speaker 1 You never hate that you think that.

Speaker 1 I gotta

Speaker 1 never not showing up to anything.

Speaker 1 You're the biggest liar.

Speaker 1 You don't show up to almost everything I invite you to.

Speaker 1 That's okay. No, I know.
It just

Speaker 1 said I'm never not. What'd you just say? I'm going to show up to everything.
Like the other day I showed up to the party for Dream that you're going to be. Oh, my God.
That was so funny.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I am not going to not make this.

Speaker 1 I was like, Mace, get in the fucking car. We got to get out of here.
We got to go over here. Did he have fun? Yeah.
He had a lot of fun. Thriving.
He was killing all the people.

Speaker 1 He felt like he was thriving. He had the best time.
And we went to Malibu after that. We had a good little day.
Took all of his friends to Tradonoy for like a little Italian. Cute.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 Bada boom, bada bing. Bada bing, bada boom.
You're drinking a DC? Yeah, I learned it from you. What happened to your ginger ale?

Speaker 1 You're over it? I don't drink those anymore. No? No.

Speaker 1 Well, I didn't, you know, the whole thing with ginger ale, you know. I know.
I didn't think

Speaker 1 they had sugar and it's a DC. I'll only have like once in a while.
And have one.

Speaker 1 The gingers were something else. Addicted.
That was a whole joke with the flags. Sweet Hawaiian rolls.
Oh, God, those are sickening.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Did you see what Kim made the other night on the family chat?

Speaker 1 She made sweet Hawaiian rolls. She sliced them, melted vanilla ice cream,

Speaker 1 dipped the sweet Hawaiian rolls in vanilla ice cream, like

Speaker 1 batter, sprinkle cinnamon and sugar on it, fry it so it's French toast, but drenched in vanilla ice cream. This is like a recipe she got

Speaker 1 on the top. TikTok? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so eating it. And I'm like, if Scott sees this.
Thank God I'm like doesn't tolerate. I know, but trust me, she'd find a way.
Fuck yeah. Dairy-free.
Take one of those pills before you eat.

Speaker 1 Good to go. Wow.

Speaker 1 It actually gives me like PTSD thinking of all those gingers and those Hawaiian rolls. I used to take a look at the other side.
What are some of some of the obsessions right now? You know that?

Speaker 1 But for that, like, what is... They would go on vacation with me.
Sweet Hawaiian rolls?

Speaker 1 So I would pack those. What is something you would take right now? What's like your snack fetish that you love?

Speaker 1 If now we're out of sweet Hawaiian rolls?

Speaker 1 I like Cheerios. It's like sweet, the honey nut Cheerios.
That's it. Something crazy.
Wow. So you used to be the coconut water? Snacker.
Are you not the king snacker?

Speaker 1 I haven't been snacking like I used to. Damn.

Speaker 1 I haven't really had chips either for a while. That shit really works.
But the chips were like,

Speaker 1 I was a big chipper. Yeah.
And like goldfish. No, you loved all that crap.
Oh, my God. The junk by your bed.
Oh, yeah. You used to, if anything would piss me off, it would be that the caps.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't care as much as the other person. No, I didn't care that much, but just seeing it in the caps,

Speaker 1 that's what bothered me. It would be three different Gatorades on the fucking soda.
It was three different Gatorades, one ginger, a bowl of

Speaker 1 the fish. Goldfish.
And then maybe a chocolate or a candy. Then some chips.
I mean, it was a fucking whole thing. It was a snacker.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Totally. It was a snack-a-thon.

Speaker 1 Do you have any regrets?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 no regrets to say. No? Yeah.
I mean, I definitely regret a lot of my horrific behavior

Speaker 1 going

Speaker 1 through some of my life, but I don't dwell on it, you know, and look back and say, like,

Speaker 1 oh. Maybe I do.
But I would have done things a little differently in certain times and places. But I feel like like instead of like making it about me and thinking about it, like, oh,

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to make it like if I can give my kids the help to not have to go through those times that I had that were miserable, it's all worth it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you can do.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, you dwindle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And there's so many things I see that I could have had different turnouts in my life or just how things are better and being a different way, you know, or getting where you want,

Speaker 1 I could teach them. And it makes me happy that I've been there and done it both ways, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you can't change anything.

Speaker 1 It's brought you here to where you are. And I think, I think it would be something different to say if you were

Speaker 1 a fucking loser mess right now. But because you are where you are now, I think it's cool to reflect on those things

Speaker 1 no i would be way too old to be still doing that stuff

Speaker 1 what is one goal that you're still chasing if you have one um i'd like to get a family lake house nice think that's a good goal maybe that is a great goal and i build houses so i could build it oh yeah i don't i don't know if enough people know that you build houses.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I love it.
I know that's your passion project. I I mean, it was a passion, and then it turned into a business, yeah.
And it's a good business, you know.

Speaker 1 Like, but I love that your career is still a passion project of yours, yeah. I mean, I, you know, you always hear people saying, like,

Speaker 1 a job is not a job if you really love it,

Speaker 1 and I feel that way a lot with like the building the houses and stuff like that. And then when I started doing it, it was like, wow, this is amazing.

Speaker 1 I don't know how many people remember this, but

Speaker 1 the pod? Pod? Yes. In the bathtub? Yeah.
That's what I was thinking. Oh, my God.
I can't believe I didn't start with that. So I'm thinking, we're doing this.

Speaker 1 Well, podcasts are the biggest thing in the fucking world. And you and I started a podcast way before anybody.

Speaker 1 In a bathtub together, which is insane. I had a bathing suit on and you had swim trunks on, but there was no

Speaker 1 podcast. Well, when you say in a bathtub together,

Speaker 1 but it's still psychotic.

Speaker 1 The whole thing was psychotic. But you looked like you were from Baitwatch.
Yes, I was.

Speaker 1 I had a red bathing suit on. It was crazy.
But we got high.

Speaker 1 There was no visual for podcasts.

Speaker 1 Right. We just had this thing and then we eventually lost the reporter.
What lake was that? Where were we? It was the sound. Yeah, the bay.
The bay. It was behind our house, yeah.
Ugh.

Speaker 1 You were holding on for dear life. I would not let go of that raft.
So yeah, we talked about it. What that was.
What year was that?

Speaker 1 That was Penelope was. And it was called The Lord and the Lady.

Speaker 1 Because you're the Lord. I'm the fucking lady.
That should be the episode of this. The Lord and the Lady.

Speaker 1 Okay. Jot that down.
The Lord and the Lady. So we did a few episodes.
Imagine if we stuck with that. And I tried to do another one in Cleveland.
Yes, but I was pregnant and I hated it.

Speaker 1 Oh, you were not having it. No, I was so annoyed.
There's also a question that I read from a poll that said

Speaker 1 if we got stuck maybe on an island together,

Speaker 1 what we would get annoyed with first with each other. And I was like, oh, I know exactly what my answer would be for that.
Tell me.

Speaker 1 Me asking you too many questions.

Speaker 1 Like that night in the car. You'll never let that night go.
I must have just been on, like, had a bad mood. I mean, we're in a car.
We have nothing from Santa Barbara

Speaker 1 to do is to talk.

Speaker 1 And I guess some people don't.

Speaker 1 You're like, have you heard of the radio? Put a song on. I don't want to talk the whole time.
You were just asking me like 50 questions in a minute. Well, you were in 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 So I just wanted to get the juice while I had it. And I was really in a lot of time.
I locked the doors. I was like, yo, I'm getting it on.
And

Speaker 1 I'm like, stop asking so many questions. I think they might have got out of the car, maybe.
Stomp. I didn't get out of the car.
I need to switch cars. Oh, my God.
Wow. But yeah, that would be it.

Speaker 1 If we were stuck on a car. You're never going to let that go.
No, it was too funny because that really was just like I'm just asking you questions. Honestly, the questions wouldn't bother me.

Speaker 1 What would bother me is the hacking. I don't hack anymore.
I've noticed that, but why do you not hack anymore? Because I was scared of you telling me.

Speaker 1 You also told me I would never find a girl if I did that. So I made you better.
You unhacked me. Oh my gosh, you laugh.
I love that for us. I'm very proud of you.
Because that's like

Speaker 1 the way you just do things out of habit you don't even notice you're doing them i feel like that was that so yeah how you had to be aware enough to stop doing the hacking yeah it was a lot a big deal but you noticed it was a lot it was gross okay good as long as you noticed yeah no thank god you were so gung-ho about it you're like you're never gonna be with anyone if you keep hacking yeah i'm not one to sugarcoat things i can't believe that you thought of the podcast that we originally did too.

Speaker 1 I just thought of that. I was like, why have we not talked about

Speaker 1 the original podcast?

Speaker 1 Nobody thought of it. No, I think

Speaker 1 we've taken up on it. We would have been

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 the biggest.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what we talked about, but we loved that we were podcasting in an actual tub, but no one could see us. Right.
Like we could have really been

Speaker 1 in bed and pretending. Or terrors.
Yeah, but we

Speaker 1 shriveled in bed. But we could have been

Speaker 1 lying in bed. We could have been lying to the audience, but instead we actually were doing the things we said we were doing.
I guess we were filming a show. Yeah, but they got the visual.
So,

Speaker 1 who cares about that show? Wait, what was your favorite take series?

Speaker 1 I kind of liked the Hamptons, even though you hated the Hamptons. The Hamptons was my least favorite take series.

Speaker 1 I liked them all. I liked New York.

Speaker 1 You did not like New York. Well, maybe because you lived there.
I love it. You're from New York, but

Speaker 1 some of the people. Oh, I think I liked the one, but I did one with Kim without you.
No offense to you. It was just nice because I got to be with Chris a lot and like my friends.

Speaker 1 Oh, that Chris. I was like, what? It's a corporate girl.
No, not the dump. I was like, where are we going?

Speaker 1 No, I think those take shows were fun. Miami was too much for me.

Speaker 1 New York was great, and the Hampton was pretty great.

Speaker 1 But they were fun. it was just crazy that we would move our lives for like five months at a time

Speaker 1 well we had nothing else to do lordy thank you so much for doing this i appreciate you love you love you and i feel honored that you don't do podcasts but you did mine maybe after this i'm gonna have to start scott welcome to wonderland that's what this is called oh i didn't even know that chloe in wonderland

Speaker 1 So welcome to Wonderland. And then this episode is The Lord and His Lady.
The Lord and His Lady. Episode one.

Speaker 1 Let's just make that clear. You can't make that.
If I did this, and then I'm episode like eight. Well, I'll tweet it up.
I'll do it something really juicy. We could be episode one.
Come here, babe.

Speaker 1 Let's.

Speaker 1 I don't know what hand movement that was, but it felt great. It wasn't good.
It felt gross. It was.