"We're Gonna Dance" (w/ Lady Gaga) (RE-RELEASE)

Transcript

Speaker 1 This is an iHeart podcast.

Speaker 1 Guaranteed human.

Speaker 1 What if you could boost your Wi-Fi to one of your devices when you need it most? Because Xfinity Wi-Fi can. Like when you need to upload 200 photos of your cat in a Santa hat to post online.

Speaker 1 We've all been there. And what if your Wi-Fi could proactively fix issues before they even happen? Xfinity Wi-Fi does that too.
It's like having a little holiday helper.

Speaker 1 And what if your Wi-Fi had parental instincts built right in? So your kids are always protected online. It's Wi-Fi that's not just smart, it's brilliant.

Speaker 1 And during the holidays, that's a gift we all could use. Xfinity, imagine that.
Sometimes you just need to be comfortable, you know? But that doesn't mean you don't want to look good, too.

Speaker 1 Well, Old Navy, the kings of cozy, have done it again with Bounce Fleece. It's soft, stylish, and comes in elevated colors that look good anywhere.

Speaker 1 Basically, it's fleece reimagined for real life, made for moments when you want to be cozy but still need to look good. Call it airport chic, call it errand elegance.

Speaker 1 Either way, Bounce Fleece nails it. Find Bounce Fleece and other holiday goodies now at oldnavy.com.

Speaker 1 The best dates happen when someone really gets your vibe, your niche references, your hot takes, even your reality TV obsessions. That's why it's so exciting to be partnering with Bumble.

Speaker 1 Dating feels easier on Bumble with prompts that show off your personality, shared interests that help you find common ground, and verification that gives you peace of mind that you're meeting someone real.

Speaker 1 So if you're ready to meet someone who really gets you and your energy, Bumble is the perfect place to start. What are you waiting for? Download Bumble and start your love story.

Speaker 1 Whether you're a seasoned small business owner or thinking about getting started, you'll definitely want to check out season four of Mind the Business: Small Business Success Stories from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio and Intuit QuickBooks.

Speaker 1 In this latest season, hosts Austin Hankwitz and Janice Torres are talking to self-starters about everything from the ins and outs of entrepreneurship and using Intuit QuickBooks to help you get more done in less time.

Speaker 1 You won't want to miss it. Listen to Mind the Business: Small Business Success Stories on the iHeart app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts

Speaker 1 look man

Speaker 1 oh i see my i oh my bone look over there wow is that the culture yes goodness wow las cultureistas ding dong lost culturistas calling it's tough to be speechless on a day when you have to record a podcast because the art form requires you talk

Speaker 1 it Feels unfair. Like, I don't want to be at work right now because I'm very much like transcending existence, like physical space.
Right. It's all, it's all really kind of led up to this.

Speaker 1 Honestly, Bo, maybe this has to be the series finale of Last Level.

Speaker 1 This is the last episode of Lost Culture. Thank you all so much for benign.

Speaker 1 Joining us all these years. It had to end this way.

Speaker 1 We'll always remember us this way. Always remember us this way.
And you started off the show saying speechless, too. You're

Speaker 1 not.

Speaker 1 We have to say you're rattling them off.

Speaker 1 Third, let's see. Our pop.
There we go. We nailed it.
We nailed it. We nailed it.
This is, why don't you say how you feel? I mean, this is one of the most important people to me.

Speaker 1 One of the most, I said this at the Radio City show for SNL 50, my favorite artist in the world.

Speaker 1 I left my body. Well, we'll talk about this.
I left my body because you'd be said hi and then you turn around and go, wait, Share's on stage. Yeah, I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 Hearing that you guys watched Hare Together was a huge moment for me, even. Yeah.
For everybody.

Speaker 1 But I mean, we're, we're just so happy she's here. The album Mayhem might be out already.
Oh, it's out depending on when this comes out.

Speaker 1 So you have to have grace, everybody, because we've listened to the album one and a half times. We were brought to a secure location where we were.

Speaker 1 basically told, okay, we're going to listen to this. And if we want to go back, we listen to parts.
Yeah. It was a bunker.

Speaker 1 It was like where they keep all the designated survivors in case of like desirable fallout. We're the mayhem designated survivors.
We're the mayhem designated survivors.

Speaker 1 But it is perfect. We were ecstatic listening to it.
And as you all know, at this point, it's brilliant. We think it's our guest's best work, which is saying something

Speaker 1 a lot.

Speaker 1 She's a 14-time Grammy winner, Academy Award winner. Grammy Award winner.
So many more accolades on top of that. Everyone, please welcome into your ears.
Lady Gaga. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 I am so, so happy to be here. This is the joy of our lives.

Speaker 1 I, no, it's the joy of mine. I was so excited to see you both.
And I just want to say also congratulations to both of you.

Speaker 1 You are doing such amazing things. It's amazing to watch.
And seriously, you've had an amazing year.

Speaker 1 And I'm just like really excited to be here. You're also wearing a Joanne-era t-shirt.
Which is really killing me.

Speaker 1 I feel like I've only ever like dry cleaned this shirt because I want to preserve it.

Speaker 1 I don't think I dry cleaned anything during Joanne.

Speaker 1 You still got the Bud Light on you. Not even the hat.
Not even the hat? No. No, those are being sold at auction in like 20 years.
Yeah. Someday.

Speaker 1 You have to tell Gaga about your Joanne tour experience. Oh, okay.
So

Speaker 1 you played Met Life here. Yes.

Speaker 1 It was pouring rain. I don't know if you remember.
A rain show. I love a rain show.
I love a rain show too. So Diana Ross.

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 1 Oh, because I remember you said at the show, it's free production. Yeah, exactly.
You don't pay for the rain. You don't pay for the rain.
No.

Speaker 1 And the rain kind of follows you because I feel like Mary the Knight, it was the same thing too. The video for that, it was like...
Oh, yes. That was, I was, I can't believe that I got away with that.

Speaker 1 We were exploding cars at the roof of the building. Production value.
And it was raining. And they were like, you know, we have to stop production because it's raining.
And the cameras.

Speaker 1 And I said, roll the camera.

Speaker 1 Let's go. We're going to miss it.
You had a Vivo interview. This is a throwback to Vivo.
And you were just in an amazing outfit. You had sunglasses on.

Speaker 1 You're telling this anecdote about Mary the Knight. And at one point, you just pull your glasses down and go, we got free rain.
Yeah, it's a big camera.

Speaker 1 Well, because, you know, when you're putting a music video together, there's so many things you want to do. I mean, and everything is, you know, adds to the budget.

Speaker 1 And I'm trying to like weigh what thing is more important than the other. And we, that wasn't actually supposed to be a rain scene at all, but then it happened.
And

Speaker 1 like rain on fire. Come on.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Too much, too much like Universal Studios-esque things happening. Yes, it was exciting.
And then naturally, I thought it would be a good idea to hang upside down from the sunroof of the car,

Speaker 1 the Transam. The Transam.
Yeah. That was a gorgeous Transam.
Thank you. I was

Speaker 1 sick as a dog.

Speaker 1 That City Field show. Oh, no.
No, I said, why did I say MetLife? I meant City Field. Okay.
But I agreed to MetLife.

Speaker 1 We've also seen you there. Well, but I, you know, when I play shows, like, I get so tired on the road that like sometimes I forget the venue for which tour.
Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I would imagine it's like one of those schedules where it's like, you don't want this to happen, but you could yell out Barcelona and you're in Brussels. No, we can't do that.

Speaker 1 That is good. That would be horrible.

Speaker 1 That is not good.

Speaker 1 We've seen you. Gosh, we've been lucky to see you in multiple venues now because it's City Field, MetLife.
We saw one of the shows of Tony at Radio City. Radio City at the last show.

Speaker 1 We were there.

Speaker 1 What, you know, it's so funny. At the SNL 50 concert the other night, I was nervous to do Dick in a Box.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because like, I feel like, you know, if you're a comedian, being asked to do who's on first is probably like really like, you know, so Entemy Dickenbach is a classic. Of course.

Speaker 1 So I was like, oh my God, why did I agree to do this?

Speaker 1 And then I was, you know, walking through the theater and I remembered that I had been, the last time I'd been there was with Tony and I was like, you know, Tony would have just said, don't be nervous.

Speaker 1 Or if you are nervous, it's because you care and I do care. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Okay, but a comedian doing who's on first is like, you, it's like, it's like,

Speaker 1 you singing La Vian Rose or something on film. It's like, I feel like you've inhabited all of these classics for your entire life.

Speaker 1 I feel like you were playing rock mononoff at four or whatever the fuck. Like, you've been doing this your whole life.
I have been. I have been.

Speaker 1 And it's, it's, but I love so much being a part of entertainment.

Speaker 1 Like, in like the truest sense, I don't, I don't mean any more than the thrill of the good old-fashioned hard work of other actors, other musicians, stage designers, costume makers, makeup artists, wig makers, the lighting and like backstage at SNL 50 was insane.

Speaker 1 We were all like getting ready to go on and then like, you know, a human squid would walk by

Speaker 1 and like then the B52s would be there and then, you know, someone would be getting their, you know, wig thrown on. And it was just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think that that's my favorite part of show business, right? Is the show of it all. The show of it all.

Speaker 1 Because something about that concert, which we talked to Kevin Mazer, who, by the way, photographer. Yes.
Did you want to hear something? Yes. My mom's boyfriend from high school.

Speaker 1 Can you believe? Oh, that's some piping hot tea. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm from Long Island. He took my mom to prom.

Speaker 1 And every time I see him now, mad, he comes over. Like, he's just, he's, he's, he's the guy.
He's the guy. But y'all, Reader's Katie's Publicist Finals, Kyle's.

Speaker 1 Kevin Mazer, the like live event photographer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've known him for so long. Can I ask your mom his name? Katrina.
I'm so, even when I see him, I'd be like, so I heard about Katrina.

Speaker 1 He's going to love it. Katrina Clarina.
She had an iconic high school name. That's sweet.

Speaker 1 I was checking with him on Sunday. I was like, oh my God, Friday.
Like, what was that about? I go,

Speaker 1 you go to all of these things, Kevin. Where does that rank among your nights? And he was like, that is one of the top three events I've ever done.
It was one of the greatest nights in entertainment.

Speaker 1 And I heard it took two years to plan. Yeah.
And I felt really emotional. I couldn't figure out exactly what I wanted to say on stage.

Speaker 1 I ultimately decided to shout out Mark Ronson and the Roots because Mark and I wrote Shallow together and The Roots were playing it with me and I love them so much.

Speaker 1 And I was, I almost said, like, and thank you to Lauren and SNL because, like, thanks for giving me a shot on the show years ago. Because, like, SNL also helps break artists, and it's a huge deal.

Speaker 1 I don't know if people, I mean, I know that people know this, but I don't know that they know how much it means to the artist when we get booked for the show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, to this day, when I got called to do

Speaker 1 double duty in a couple of weeks, full panic tears. Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah so so happy so elated i couldn't be more proud it was the thing that i wanted to do the most yeah to promote my record and to just make people happy yeah it's gonna happen we're recording this before snl yes we're coming right off of the the celebration the 50th but i mean when when they told me that they voted to you for double duty the you're gonna be incredible scream i scrumped i just i just

Speaker 1 scream i scrumped i was so excited to me like i say to people i'm in the business of making people smile. And that is 100% how I feel about SNL.

Speaker 1 It's just that it is, it is a night devoted to making people laugh at home. And I'm all about it.

Speaker 1 But you literally embodied and captured that in the last time you hosted, which was that like jazzy applause cover. I still watch.
It's like a pitch perfect. It is everything the monologue should be.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And it sets the tone for the show.

Speaker 1 It introduces, not that you need an introduction, especially at that time or now, but it's like that was the perfect way to build confidence for the audience that the show was going to be great.

Speaker 1 It was like such a privilege to do that. And I'm a theater kid from New York.
So doing the SNL monologue is a big deal. It is a huge deal.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I just, I don't, I don't know that I ever imagined that I would end up doing that.

Speaker 1 I think I had a lot more confidence that I would, you know, just be a songwriter, singer, producer for as long as possible. But I didn't know that I would get embraced in that way.

Speaker 1 And it's, and that's what's cool about, you know, hosting and and doing musical guests too, is being the host, the monologue, the monologue is separate from being an actor in the skit. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 And then that's also separate from being the artist on stage as a musical guest. So it's like, I get to kind of do all the things that I love.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just thinking about how like you talk about what an amazing moment that is as an artist to be asked to do that show. And even in Starsborn, it's almost like an emotional like.

Speaker 1 moment in the film when Allie is told you're doing SNL. It's like that and getting a Grammy nomination are both moments for that character in that movie.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Did anything from that experience influence the decision to do shallow on SNL 50? Because you have so many songs you could have done, but you chose Shallow.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, one of the reasons that that was included in A Star is Born is because a lot of Astar is Born was inspired by my real life.

Speaker 1 And I worked really, really close with Bradley and Eric on making sure that like the story of these two musicians felt real.

Speaker 1 And so that kind of feeling around SNL and around a Grammy is that's just like how it actually felt truly important to you and so that's reflected in that and shallow to me is the song I wish I had done on SNL

Speaker 1 and when Andy and I started talking about doing dick in a box he came to me and he said I have this idea that we started off and you start with shallow and I started and it's like doesn't sound good and then you said you know and we did the whole thing and and when I watched

Speaker 1 the rehearsal, I was like, oh, like, but now maybe they kind of, but they might want to hear it.

Speaker 1 As we started and it doesn't go. So

Speaker 1 I thought it would be a chance to do that. And also to kind of put some of my best work forward on a show that deserves your best work.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like to me, when I see artists perform on SNL, like we all try to put our best foot forward. And so yeah, I just, I wanted it to be.

Speaker 1 like a heartwarming moment, hopefully for people at home too.

Speaker 1 I mean, I do like lots of different things.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm also into the dark arts and the poetry of pop music.

Speaker 1 And shallow is very different than a lot of the music I've done in my career, but it's an important song to me because it helped me to connect with people that otherwise maybe didn't know if they could connect with someone like me.

Speaker 1 Like maybe they didn't relate to me as much or maybe they didn't know someone like me in high school.

Speaker 1 So, you know, shallow is an important song to me for that reason. And it just felt like the right one to do.

Speaker 1 I remember the Chromatica Ball, like that, which was such a party, but we went with like 15 of our friends. And when you started Shallow, we all were like checking in with each other.

Speaker 1 Like, this is really happening. Like, we're hearing shallow.
It is like a high point of culture. 60,000 people at MetLife, a hush fell.
You know what I mean? Like, you could hear a pin drop.

Speaker 1 You know, it was just one of those sublime moments. And I, I think I remember like looking up at the crowd, just being like, God, I was shooting a movie in Charlotte.
I flew back for that show.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm not missing God. No, I'm never.

Speaker 1 Like, it was just a culmination of like that era, which was like kind of, it was a glorious era that got kind of messed up by the pandemic and like it just felt like this victory lap and this like culmination of like what everybody wanted to celebrate together with you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. It was a really special tour to me.

Speaker 1 I hadn't seen my

Speaker 1 fans really on tour since I had to stop. the Join World Tour.
And I and I was like really not well during that time. And it totally broke my heart to have to cancel.
And

Speaker 1 that was the second tour that that happened on.

Speaker 1 So I was a little bit nervous about going out for Chromatica. I was like, am I going to be able to do it? And, you know, am I going to be in pain when I'm on stage? What's it going to be like? And

Speaker 1 it was amazing. I had the best time.
Also, my amazing partner, Michael, was with me. He came with me the entire tour.
We were together during the prep for the tour.

Speaker 1 We lived in Leeds while we put the tour, which is like very funny having a brutalist stage in the middle of Leeds with that music.

Speaker 1 That was incredible.

Speaker 1 Thank you. But it was, you know, it was special and healing.
And I think in a way, it kind of set me up for this next time. Yeah.
Yeah. I got to say, just hearing you talk about being

Speaker 1 in service of the idea of entertainment, I think it means to me, what I hear is that like,

Speaker 1 for a while, I always thought about you as like someone who is perpetually being a student to the concept of fame.

Speaker 1 But I think what it's very quickly become, and like even sooner than I I realized, was you are a student of entertainment. And it's not the same thing, obviously.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you. I mean, I think you're right about earlier.
Earlier in my career, I was a student of fame and I was fascinated with it. And it was a part of my art.
And I studied it.

Speaker 1 I was like really, really fascinated with Andy Warhol.

Speaker 1 And I tried to sort of take the spirit of Warhol into my pop shows, like even like the choices of, you know, the music with the lighting and a, you know, a piss yellow wig that would have been one of, you know, his his screen prints like it was all about this idea that anyone could become a star if they if they studied how

Speaker 1 but the thing that i didn't know that would happen was my fans like i didn't know who they would be i didn't know how it would make me feel i also did not anticipate but i'm so glad that i did

Speaker 1 hear the stories of people all over the world. I mean, I would stop outside my hotel rooms and I would talk to fans.
I would invite fans backstage after the shows.

Speaker 1 I would play demos for fans years before I released music and be like, what do you think of this? Let's talk about it. What's your home life like?

Speaker 1 And they would tell me about their lives. And so I've grown up.
It's almost been two decades in the public. It's definitely been two decades for me as a recording artist.

Speaker 1 But I kind of grew up and I changed. I was a student of fame, but I ultimately decided that the reason I want to do this is to make people happy with art.

Speaker 1 And then like now, I mean, I don't know if my fans really know this about me now, but I warm up my voice twice a day

Speaker 1 and I practice piano every day. And I am like working harder than ever in the dance studio.
So I like keep up my chops. Yeah.
Because to me, that hard work is what my fans deserve.

Speaker 1 And also it's to me, that's like the privilege of being an artist is that you get to work on your craft. And I want to be able to say that I'm getting better at it, not that I've done it already.

Speaker 1 And, and that's that. You know what? We have to talk, though, about your vocals on this new album.
Like

Speaker 1 we, we, we listen to it, like we said.

Speaker 1 I turned to Bobby. I was like, how do you do it? It is, it is so Olympic what you do with your voice.
And I would imagine you said you're warming up twice a day.

Speaker 1 I would imagine your vocal warm-ups are what, like a half hour long.

Speaker 1 So You're really in the pocket on this, like the rock vocals that are not easy easy to do, the passion with which you sing.

Speaker 1 When you're recording and you're putting songs like these together, do you go back and back and back vocally? Or how can you do that? Yes. I actually,

Speaker 1 poor Andrew and Circuit in the studio and Gestoffelstein, when we were doing vocals,

Speaker 1 I would sometimes do like 50 takes. Wow.
And they were very, you know, supportive and it was fine. But the reason is because when I'm writing music, I'm sometimes imagining someone else is singing it.

Speaker 1 Of course, yeah. Because it helps me to kind of embody the spirit of a superstar.
Because I didn't like always feel very confident as a kid and that stayed with me my whole life.

Speaker 1 So during the writing process, like when I wrote Born This Way, I was actually thinking about Witty Houston. Wow.
And so I love that you knew that.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 I was thinking always about different people.

Speaker 1 But then when I when I get there to sing it, I'm like, okay, I could sing this in a lot of different ways. How should I sing it? So take one, I do it one way.
Take two, I do it another way.

Speaker 1 By take eight, I've sunk into it differently.

Speaker 1 Take 16, I go, I'm gonna try something completely different, scratch it all.

Speaker 1 And so I think what you are hearing on this album is that I was actually pretty,

Speaker 1 pretty bossy, actually, in the studio about about

Speaker 1 getting the best possible vocal and also pushing myself to do things that I've never done on a record before. I don't think I sound on this album like I sound on 90.

Speaker 1 So many vocal discoveries on this and so many, this is crazy to say because you're always so many different characters in your music, which you're speaking to, but so many more than ever and new characters that we're hearing.

Speaker 1 Yes. And which character is going to tell that story and why? Yes.
Yeah. I mean, I remember there was this very early, early interview of yours where it was for V magazine.

Speaker 1 It was like, you were in like Mario Testino made you get all like tanned. And,

Speaker 1 you know, it was a very like Testino look. And it was incredible.
But I think it was someone, I think it was

Speaker 1 John Norris at Fuse who was asking you about like, or you brought up Faith No More. And I was like,

Speaker 1 okay, this is not what I expected Gaga to like love and like zero in on. This is like the real musical taste that she has.

Speaker 1 And then it would shift to like, oh, but then this bitch knows the great American songbook, like the bag of her hand.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, wait and then she also like

Speaker 1 she's like the classically trained pianist and she like fucking knows like all of these i'm sorry i didn't not mean to call you a bitch

Speaker 1 no you said this bitch colloquial

Speaker 1 you know what i'm saying no

Speaker 1 from new york

Speaker 1 my body this bitch knows this bitch knows the great american songbook i do yes i do thank you period and like i just think the characters are not so much characters as they are

Speaker 1 the knowledge and this and being the student of music, of entertainment. Like you embody all these things.

Speaker 1 And so I think with mayhem, I think with this album, it's like Bobby was saying that this is probably the most authentically you album you've ever put out.

Speaker 1 That makes me think, well, then there's something to Gaga being an amalgamation of all these different things and these genres and these studied, detailed musical. exercises, I guess.

Speaker 1 But like, that's who you are because I couldn't boil you down to one thing. And I'm sure you couldn't either.
No, I mean, I, I am definitely all of these things. And that, that's what mayhem is.

Speaker 1 It's a celebration of all of that. And, you know, it's so funny as you're talking about this too.
I'm like thinking about this moment where Michael, Michael was in the studio every day.

Speaker 1 Michael executive produced the record with me. And there was at one point I was like.

Speaker 1 really into this electro grunge sound like on perfect celebrity

Speaker 1 it's like whole it's it's a whole

Speaker 1 we were saying garbage so i'm like i'm like okay we're gonna gonna make the whole album like this and i'm gonna change everything and he and he was like no you are not you can't do that because but he was right because i am all of the different genres all of the different approaches all the different processes that's why it ultimately is mayhem is because it if you're stepping really far back it like doesn't make sense but when you put it all together it's me and um i appreciate you seeing that in me i feel like since the beginning of my my career, there was always

Speaker 1 some type of criticism coming from somewhere of like, but who are you? Right. You know, and like,

Speaker 1 what is Lady Gaga? And can you explain it to me? And what's your style? And, you know, you know, what's what genre really is it? What should I call you? What should I call you? Like, what's your

Speaker 1 first of all, I was terrified to make a pop record again.

Speaker 1 And I decided to do it. And I felt very supported in doing it by Michael, by my family, by everyone around me.

Speaker 1 But feeling like people think you're chaotic is, there's something, there was a joy in that for a while, but there was also like a pain in that too. Was that where the fear was coming from? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like, especially as a woman, people are like, you're, you're chaos.

Speaker 1 Like, it's kind of like part of me is like, uh-huh, you know, and then the other part of me is like, but what, like, what do you mean by that? Right. And like, dismissive.

Speaker 1 It's kind of of like, um, you're a mess.

Speaker 1 And like, you're a mess because I can't figure out how to organize you. Right.

Speaker 1 And I don't know how to think about you. And I think what I want my fans to know is like, that's other people's problem.
That's not your problem. You can be the whole you.

Speaker 1 And that was, that was a part of this record. And I felt, I felt excited.

Speaker 1 as a female producer too, like just doing whatever I wanted when I wanted to in the way that i heard it and i'm so happy like even before we started that you brought up killer because it's like my

Speaker 1 record

Speaker 1 yeah it's amazing thank you

Speaker 1 no you don't even know we were gonna lose we heard it twice and we've been like grabbing onto that in our brain like this whole album let's talk about the album like it's like Face melty, brain scratchy, heart screamy, pop dance with this theme of mortality throughout.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 yes. And I wanted to, I know you've said before, like you listen to a horror, you watch a horror movie every night before you go to bed.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you're in that zone now, but the theme of death and like dancing in the face of it is obviously all over this.

Speaker 1 What I've always wanted to ask you, though, is how much are you laughing while you're creating? Like, how much is joy and humor and laughter a part of your creative process when you're making music?

Speaker 1 It's all of it. Yeah, it is, there's a lot of humor on Killa, especially.

Speaker 1 What a funny record. Yes,

Speaker 1 right? What a funny funny record. I'm like not that confident.
The person that wrote that record is confident.

Speaker 1 But I would say also though that it's like the process is a little bit manic because I also get really serious and I know I can be difficult to work with because like I'm a very warm-hearted person, but when I'm like songwriting, I get like, you want what you want.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm trying to listen to what I'm hearing and get it out as fast as possible. But then maybe I'll, you know, yeah, the lyric, I'm a killer and boy, you're going to die tonight.

Speaker 1 And like, right. And then that's funny.
And then that comes out. But then I get serious again because I'm trying to figure out if the guitar lick is right.
And I'm like, no, it's not that one.

Speaker 1 It's this one. I'm doing it again.
Like, it's kind of a, yeah, it's the process is chaotic. And I'm not also a very linear thinker.
I'm very tangential.

Speaker 1 Love it. And sometimes if I can't get one part of the song right.

Speaker 1 I will need to stay on it for three days. Gotcha.
Like a bass line or a guitar riff. And then other times I will move on from it and go, I'll go like, no, no, let's go to the pre-chorus now.

Speaker 1 You know, it's, it's sort of, it's a very non-linear process and,

Speaker 1 and I love it. And I love your movie.
And of course. I'm so like, also appreciative that my partner, like he, you know, the first few years that we were together, I wasn't in the studio.

Speaker 1 And when he saw me start to make music, he was like, oh my God, I've like, I've never seen you happier than when you're making music. And that, and that was, I felt very seen by that.

Speaker 1 And I think why it is so important to me is when you grow up in the public eye, as you know, there's things that people grow to like about you, but there's things that they don't know about you.

Speaker 1 Like they don't know the you that's like maybe deep in reflection at home working on something. They know the outward facing you.
So it feels really nice to be seen by someone for the thing that

Speaker 1 the thing that you do alone that makes you special. That's your gift, right? Like the thing the world doesn't see.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I think you even alluded to this in the Oscar acceptance where you were just like, this is hard work.

Speaker 1 There are sacrifices that need to be made to get to this point. Like the reason I'm on this stage is because I worked so hard.

Speaker 1 And that is the essential thing about you, Lady Gaga, is that you're like,

Speaker 1 I can't believe you're here. I love being here.
I love, but I love also community.

Speaker 1 So like being with you and talking with you and bonding over music is like, this is the thing I probably miss the most from my time before I became famous.

Speaker 1 I did an interview downtown last week and I picked the location and I was like, we got to go to this bar that I used to write music at. And we did the interview there.

Speaker 1 And I like cried during the interview talking about all my friends down there. And

Speaker 1 welcome to the Johnsons. Nice.
And I went to like, there was a lot of bars down there that we went to, but that was just one of them. And I used to go there during the day.

Speaker 1 Like I'd go at like one o'clock

Speaker 1 and like order a, you know, Pap's blue ribbon and a shot of whiskey and a napkin. But living around artists, being around

Speaker 1 writers, songwriters, comedians, photographers, actors, musicians, go-go dancers, club promoters. You know, we were all like,

Speaker 1 we were all like our own little group and we supported each other. And it was actually really hard to go to Hollywood and

Speaker 1 do what I was doing there because it was just not like New York at all. And I know you commodify it.
You know about New York. And so this is actually hugely like a deep,

Speaker 1 a deep joy for me to be here because we get to, I get to like do the thing that made, like, it's part of who I am, right? It's like talking about it all.

Speaker 1 What if your Wi-Fi wasn't just Wi-Fi, but the magic holding your whole holiday together? Well, with Xfinity Wi-Fi, it kind of is. Picture this.

Speaker 1 Powered by their best, most elite, high-performing tech, this Wi-Fi doesn't just connect devices, it keeps the peace at home during the most wonderful and most stressful time of the year.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like having a little holiday helper working behind the scenes, making sure the holiday playlist never skips the beat and the video call with grandma doesn't freeze mid-cookie tutorial.

Speaker 1 It's Wi-Fi that keeps your whole home connected so you can actually enjoy the holiday magic, chaos-free. The best present of all.
Let me paint a picture for you.

Speaker 1 A holiday movie marathon is streaming in the living room. Your kid is video chatting their friends from their tablet, and your partner is shopping for too many gifts and cinnamon candles.
Ah!

Speaker 1 Not this season, not with Xfinity Wi-Fi. With Xfinity, you can boost the Wi-Fi to your device only.

Speaker 1 So when you go to upload 200 photos of that cat in a cute little Santa hat, you won't see that dreaded failed to upload message. Not this season, not with Xfinity Wi-Fi.

Speaker 1 And what if you had a way to make sure family time during the holidays had zero distractions? With Xfinity Wi-Fi, you can pause the kids' Wi-Fi and enjoy those special moments together.

Speaker 1 And if you're wondering what other parental instincts your Wi-Fi has during this busy season, Xfinity protects your kids when they're online so you know they're safe, even if you're busy making cocoa or taste testing cookies.

Speaker 1 What? Someone has to make sure there's exactly the same amount of chocolate chips in each cookie.

Speaker 1 And what if your Wi-Fi could proactively fix issues before they even happen? Well, that's exactly what Xfinity Wi-Fi does.

Speaker 1 Like the friend who shows up with extra wrapping paper, bows, and tape before you even realize you're out. Because let's be honest, you never buy enough.

Speaker 1 Bottom line, Xfinity Wi-Fi isn't just smart, it's brilliant. And during the holidays, that brilliance, that's a gift.
Xfinity, imagine that.

Speaker 1 Whether you're a seasoned small business owner or thinking about getting started, you'll definitely want to check out season four of Mind the Business, small business success stories Stories from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio and Intuit QuickBooks.

Speaker 1 Mind the Business is part entertainment, part instruction manual, part inspiration. Each episode features practical tips and success stories that will resonate with entrepreneurs in any industry.

Speaker 1 In this latest season, hosts Austin Hankwitz and Janice Torres are covering topics on the forefront of running a small business.

Speaker 1 They're talking to self-starters about how AI helps them work smarter, weathering market uncertainties, and enjoying the benefits of being your own boss and using Intuit QuickBooks to help you get more done in less time.

Speaker 1 You won't want to miss it. Listen to Mind the Business: small business success stories on the iHeart app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Who decides what you can do?

Speaker 1 Who gets to decide what you're capable of? Your boss, your friends, some stranger on the internet? No, no, and absolutely no. You decide, only you.
Ford shares that belief.

Speaker 1 It's like engineered into their vehicles. An F-150 is all steel, sweat, and dreams.
Right? Mm-hmm. A Ford Bronco is built for adventure, but you've got to get behind the wheel.
Can you? Yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 But you have to first. You have to.
And a Mustang, the Mustang that conquers curves. You are more capable than you know.
Like, for example, I never thought I could parallel park.

Speaker 1 I just thought it wasn't something that was going to happen for me in my life. And not everyone gets to have every experience, you know?

Speaker 1 But then, suddenly, I did a parallel park and I thought, wow, I'm gonna apply to Harvard. I didn't get in, but I did parallel park.
Sometimes you just need to push. What is it that they say?

Speaker 1 Whether you think you can or you think you can't. You're right.
Ready, set

Speaker 1 Ford. Visit Ford.com to learn more.
You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break. It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 1 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes, total reset. Right? There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.
It just hits.

Speaker 1 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know? Exactly. Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.
Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 1 Well, talk about your current community, which is like Watt, Circuit, Gesoffelstein, which, by the way, Killa, when I see Killa featuring Gesoffelstein, I'm like, well, I think I have an expectation what this song is.

Speaker 1 Did not

Speaker 1 totally blown away. So then he flipped the script on everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
Gestoffelstein is very, very talented. He's very specific.
I won't give away any of his secrets of how he works, but I loved working on that record with him.

Speaker 1 And it's so funny. Every time we talk to each other, we always go like, oh man, I love this song.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 It's very special.

Speaker 1 It's an industrial funk song. Yeah.
The only live instrument on it is the guitar.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask you everything else by electronics. That's right.
That's right.

Speaker 1 It's just really it's so different for me and i think there's areas of mayhem that are the tip of the iceberg of where i might even go next you know like that's that was some of the joy of making the album was going like oh no i'm not done with this right you know now i have to take this further talk about sequencing this one because i feel like it that was its own process it sequencing the album was I mean, Michael was like worried about me.

Speaker 1 He was like, are you okay? And I said, no. Like, I just kept listening listening to the songs and in every conceivable order.
Right. Oh, yeah, lots of permutations.
Because there's, there's versions.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, you know, do you do it by BPM? That's like the most, to me, the most obvious first version is like for it to feel like one night at a club. Right.

Speaker 1 And then there's the other version where it's like, okay, but do you do it based on the story? And like, is there a story that I'm telling here, which there is.

Speaker 1 So I, I, I did kind of a mixture of both of those things.

Speaker 1 Um, and the album kind of starts out with like the devil on your shoulder whispering to you, like, would you like to make some bad decisions tonight right because like i'll help you yeah like i can fix this feeling that you're having and by the end of the album you know you've gone through joy you've gone through partying you've gone through anger i mean perfect celebrities maybe the most angry song i've ever made yeah then vanish into you is a song about wanting to disappear into someone um it's it's a happy love song but it's also dark we're happy just to be alive um

Speaker 1 and then kill it keeps the party going but it's like that, it's that moment at the party when you're like a little numbed out.

Speaker 1 The end? We love it. You're outros.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the outros are fucking. Incredible.
Thank you. Thank you.
I am a very big fan of the outros too. We actually had

Speaker 1 a thought to release the outros like two days before the album, just, but I don't think I'm going to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's the hesitation? Yeah, just because I feel like when you hear them as an actual outro, it's like, then it's an outro. But if I give it, then it's a snippet.

Speaker 1 But then it's a snippet and and then it kind of is decontextualized from the actual work. Yeah.
I mean, Killa, you really experience that outro because of the beginning. Right.
Like, it

Speaker 1 kind of need the beginning. Cinderella's got to walk up the stairs before the glass level.

Speaker 1 Before she can leave in a hurry. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 The other song that I feel like was like, we listened to several times and the build on this one is just amazing, but it's so different for you, we feel, is how bad do you want me?

Speaker 1 We love how bad you want me. Oh my God, I listened to put that on the album.

Speaker 1 No, we're so happy you did because it's like throwbacky for you because it's it's very pop it really very much is like a total hyper pop song but i was like i hear like a high school girl singing this with her ripped up like you're you're how bad do you want like yeah like it just it feels you know what i mean like we can we can see and hear the character in this like Tell us about that song.

Speaker 1 Okay. So very funny story is I, Michael and I started that song at home, but I had, I started it first and he heard me singing it.
And he walks in from the kitchen and he goes, Is that about me?

Speaker 1 And I was like, No.

Speaker 1 And then he came on in and we started to like finish it together. And, you know,

Speaker 1 that song embodies a feeling that I've had probably my whole life, which is that I always felt archetyped as the bad girl.

Speaker 1 And it's why the lyric is kind of funny. You like my hair, my ripped-up jeans.
You like the, he's like, that's like so stereotypical. Like the girl with ripped jeans is bad, right?

Speaker 1 It's so, it's so kind of silly and humorous.

Speaker 1 So, but, but I've always felt this kind of like, I don't know, shame that I'm, I've always been at war with this feeling that if I am, you know, interested in someone that like they're actually longing for a good girl,

Speaker 1 but they're stuck with me.

Speaker 1 And I'm who they really want. But like we're in this like three-way relationship and there's there's is no actual other good girl.

Speaker 1 But the good girl's like in their head and they're and they're kind of comparing me the whole time that girl that you like ain't real how bad how bad do you want me for real yeah exactly oh my god you we love it no wait what i'm telling you we we've been like just texting it to each other like so how bad do you want me for real yeah the good girl in your dreams is mad you're loving me i know you wish that she was me how bad do you want me so yeah and it i like i it's so funny too because it's a fun pop song but i cried when i wrote it like was like my favorite kind of song emotional pop.

Speaker 1 I have a, I have a, um, I have some voice recordings of it somewhere that I have, like from the original. That, yeah, maybe I'll just drop those one at some point.
That's, that's the tea.

Speaker 1 But I also was also not sure I should put that on the record. And Michael was like, you have to.
Like, your fans are going to love that song. What was the hesitation around that? I just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Sometimes when things are really super pop, I get like, I don't know, I get a weird reaction. Yeah.
Where do you think that comes from? I don't know. I felt this way about Just Dance.

Speaker 1 Thank God I didn't listen to myself then yeah yeah because i was gonna i was gonna ask is it about the prior work but i think there's something about this current team around mayhem between watton circuit and paris it's like these are all people who understand what came before but are facing and have a vision for the future for them.

Speaker 1 Yes. I mean, Andrew, what was great about working with him is he also plays a lot of different instruments.
And I know how to write on all those different instruments.

Speaker 1 So if I, if we were in the studio, I would just be like, okay, like play the guitar this way, do the bass line this way, and then we would do it over and over, and we would riff back and forth.

Speaker 1 Circuit is an amazing musician, also. He, he's also like the fastest producer programmer that I've ever seen ever.
He's wildly fast. He also does amazing analog synth work.

Speaker 1 We had like every iconic analog synth possible in the studio.

Speaker 1 Andrew also had a mechanic there that was working on the synths to kind of like bring out the low end in certain areas and like sort of like tailor the instruments to be unique for the album.

Speaker 1 And Gestoffelstein, I will share nothing because the man is a mystery and I'm going to

Speaker 1 be that way. He shall remain.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, Die with a Smile at the end of the album, it's this beautiful moment of like, first of all, the first line being, I just woke up from a dream really kind of works after what's happened.

Speaker 1 And then it does feel like a beautiful cinematic like credits role. Well, it's nice.
There's a waltz too, which I love. Thank you.
I, you know, as a personal choice,

Speaker 1 I really wanted the mayhem to end.

Speaker 1 That's beautiful. You know what I mean? Like, because Blade of Grass is a beautiful song, but you don't get the feeling that the mayhem is over.
No, with Blade of Grass.

Speaker 1 Blade of Grass is a song about saying, I'm going to spend the rest of my life with you, but I just want you to know that now that you've asked me to spend the rest of my life with you, all I can think about is how hard it was to get here.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 So I did make the decision that I wanted there to be a message of hope on the record

Speaker 1 because I,

Speaker 1 and like, I don't, I feel nervous about speaking about mental health issues at this stage of my life. I think only because I talked about them so much for so many years.

Speaker 1 And I'm so passionate about mental health and people getting help, but I'm also like, I like deal with my own sort of

Speaker 1 nerves about

Speaker 1 people only talking about me in that way. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't want to be defined by that time in my life. But I will say that, like, having personal mayhem and like struggling mentally, that is a very particular kind of chaos.

Speaker 1 That I hope that people who do struggle, like, hear this record and then know that there's peace at the end of it. Yeah.
And that it can get better because it truly got better for me.

Speaker 1 And I, I just really wanted that to be a part of it. And also in working with Bruno, who like 100%

Speaker 1 collaborated with me,

Speaker 1 like head to head, musician to musician.

Speaker 1 And I'm usually the only woman in the room when I'm making music. And to be treated with that kind of respect really meant a lot to me.

Speaker 1 And it felt, it felt like, it felt like the only way to put a period on the end of the album, if that makes sense. Like that I, and also that

Speaker 1 I'm sure you've heard the phrase reheating your nachos. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 I had never heard that. And I was like, what is this? It's running rampant in my world by a storm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. But, but I have to say, like,

Speaker 1 there's something beautiful in it because

Speaker 1 I think being a female artist, there was always pressure on me. What is she going to do next? How is she going to reinvent herself? How is she going to change?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, she's going to do the same thing forever. And then I would reinvent myself and I would change.
And they'd be like, we wish she was like, you know, she used to be. Right.
And

Speaker 1 I think what I realized making this album is there is a sound and a style

Speaker 1 and a

Speaker 1 way of creating music that I did come up with and I'm owning it on this album

Speaker 1 and it's it's to me I did it in a new way and I also

Speaker 1 took myself to musical places that I've never been to before and I was a student of music but I think it's okay for anyone to own their own inventions and be like, this is me.

Speaker 1 And I'm the creator of me.

Speaker 1 And a lot of female artists, we know this, that people say, well, that record was successful because of this producer or that this thing was successful because of this producer. That's so unfair.

Speaker 1 And it's not fair to women to do that.

Speaker 1 Women are creators as well. We are the creators of our lives and it's our vision.
And, you know, we weren't made.

Speaker 1 We made ourselves.

Speaker 1 I think out of.

Speaker 1 all your albums, this one stands as like a true artistic statement for you. It is you're you're painting with every color on the palette, you know?

Speaker 1 It's like, I don't think you should ever, well, first of all, I don't think you will ever be defined by any of the mental health conversation. It's only been helpful to people.

Speaker 1 You, you have literally,

Speaker 1 you've saved my life. I would listen to Mary the Night in very dark times.
I still do. Oh my God, Tuesday night writing in at SNL.
Sometimes I'll just, I'll hit that track.

Speaker 1 I got to marry the fucking night because it's 4 a.m. And I got to, I have a sketch to finish.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, it's, I completely understand this relationship you have with the people, the way people talk about your life and what you've gone through.

Speaker 1 It is only enriching what the work is. Truly.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thanks for sharing that. I'm so sorry that you go through those times.

Speaker 1 I, I think it's, you know, it's like something I have to work through because it really was true that for a while, and I don't know if you can relate to this in any way, but it's sometimes when you get to that place,

Speaker 1 talking about it is the healthiest thing for you. Yes.
And like you have to get it out. And if you don't get it out, you're just living in silence about it.

Speaker 1 And it's like this secret that is making you feel more sick. So yeah, I'm, you know, I'm a work in progress.
It's like, I'm just, you know, I'm not an authority on anything really.

Speaker 1 I just am a person and I love making people happy. And I hope that people will put on mayhem start to finish and just have a good time because it's ultimately meant to be a celebration of you.

Speaker 1 But I think I did make it for those that feel like maybe they don't always know how to make sense of themselves. And I'm saying like, that's cool.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 You don't have to make perfect sense of it. That's what the sequencing is about in the end.
That's probably why you landed on this order of songs because that's the statement. That's right.

Speaker 1 Powered by their best, most elite, high-performing tech, this Wi-Fi doesn't just connect devices, it keeps the peace at home during the most wonderful and most stressful time of the year.

Speaker 1 It's Wi-Fi that keeps your whole home connected, so you can actually enjoy the holiday magic, chaos-free. The best present of all.
Let me paint a picture for for you.

Ah!

Speaker 1 Not this season, not with Xfinity Wi-Fi. With Xfinity, you can boost the Wi-Fi to your device only.

Speaker 1 You won't want to miss it. Listen to Mind the Business, small business success stories on the iHeart app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 Who gets to decide what you're capable of? Your boss, your friends, some stranger on the internet? No, no, and absolutely no. You decide.
Only you. Ford shares that belief.

And a Mustang, the Mustang that conquers curves. You are more capable than you know.

Speaker 1 But then, suddenly, I did a parallel park and I thought, wow, I'm going to apply to Harvard. I didn't get in, but I did parallel park.

Speaker 1 Whether you think you can or you think you can't. You're right.
Ready, set,

Speaker 1 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes. Total reset.
Right? There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke. It just hits.

Speaker 1 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know? Exactly. Diet Coke is the perfect perfect companion for all break moments.
Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 1 Well, we have the central question of our podcast that we ask everybody that we're going to ask of you, Lady Gaga, which is what was the culture that made you say culture was for me?

Speaker 1 This can be anything from a film you saw that moved you in a certain direction, a song, an artist, something environmental. If you could think, I became

Speaker 1 something close to Lady Gaga, if not full-on Lady Gaga, in this moment.

Speaker 1 I have a few different ones, I feel like. We love that.
I think the one that is the most important to me is I had gay friends in high school, and I didn't have a lot of friends in high school.

Speaker 1 And I went to an all-girls school, which means that when school was over, I used to walk like eight blocks away to the boys' school and they weren't out yet,

Speaker 1 but we were friends, and we would do the musicals together. And I found my people.
And then later in my career, when I started performing out and I had had LGBTQ plus fans,

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, that was, this is the community that loved me when I was a child. And this is the community that I'm meant to be a part of now.

Speaker 1 And so I don't think I would be Lady Gaga without the queer community. Wow.
You're such an important friend in the life of a gay person when you are that person. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like that's like such a silly way to sequence those words, sequencing.

Speaker 1 But I'll just never forget my safe spaces when I wasn't out, when I was in high school, when I felt like I could talk about my influences, talk about the music I wanted to talk about, you know, like telling all the boys in my school that I liked Limb Biscuit and all love to them, but I want to talk about Christina Aguilera.

Speaker 1 And then finding the girls and being like, don't you love the last track, Obvious on the self-titled? You know what I mean? Like, it's just like. Being able to share a language and share a humor.

Speaker 1 And you have grown into such a maximum version of that. And it was, I mean, jumping around,

Speaker 1 we just have to say it was so beautiful. And thank you so much for saying what you said on the Grammys.
Oh, that was.

Speaker 1 For speaking to our community and speaking to the trans community and people that need it the most. That was my absolute privilege.

Speaker 1 And I promised myself that if I won a Grammy that night, I was going to say something that was in support of something that is so.

Speaker 1 so important, which is to be protective and loving to a community that is experiencing violence. Yep.
It's my privilege to be a part of this community.

Speaker 1 And it's the language that we speak to each other. And it's also like, thank you for teaching me so much about the world.

Speaker 1 I couldn't be the person that I am without the stories of all of the people that I've met and the authenticity and the realness.

Speaker 1 Like I have so many gay friends that like just share with me their truth.

Speaker 1 And that's a real gift. Like how many people do you meet that don't do that? Right.
Everybody. Right.
And it's, and it's like, that can be also not a great way to move through the world.

Speaker 1 So, you know, to me, this is my privilege to be a part of it. And I know I wouldn't be the same.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, I think like Born This Way for me was, it's like easily my favorite album that I, that I ever created.

Speaker 1 And what's interesting is the second answer to the question that you asked me, if I could think of another culture, it would be that culture of friends on the Lower East Side.

Speaker 1 And Born This Way was a mixture of the inspiration of the queer community, my love of the queer community, as well as like this like techno rock, electro rock, underground New York metal scene that I was a part of.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 you know, all of those things, like that blender is like truly what makes me. me.
And it still is.

Speaker 1 And I, I think this is an important time for us all to be real with each each other and ask for what we need from each other.

Speaker 1 Well, something about that night where you won the Grammy with Bruno that was so impactful. Cause I was just watching at home kind of just, cause a couple of hours had gone by in the show already.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, I guess no one's really addressing what's going on in like a real important way.

Speaker 1 And you were, you broke the seal on that. And then the immediate response from the audience and from people at home was, thank God you said something.
I'm so grateful. Because

Speaker 1 I will always think about the way you handled the rumors and the way you even talked about it with Anderson Cooper, which was like, would that be such a bad thing?

Speaker 1 Like the fact that you were even talking about this recently, where you're like, you had to decide whether or not you would quote unquote fix the rumor, but how would that make someone feel if they were trans?

Speaker 1 And why would you inject more shame into that situation? Because I think there was some turning point in Lady Gaga as an artist who was studying fame.

Speaker 1 Because that's a moment where, I don't know, we experience this on such a smaller scale than you, obviously, but it's like, there's nothing more frustrating than someone saying something about you that isn't true.

Speaker 1 Right. And you don't have the opportunity to address her or you're not, and all you want to say is that's not true.

Speaker 1 But for you to flip that on its head and be like, if it were true, who fucking cares? Yeah. It's huge.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I think that was probably the most responsible I ever felt for like the words that were going to come out of my mouth at that point. Like I really kind of did understand that the way that I

Speaker 1 would react to that would, I thought, be meaningful.

Speaker 1 But to be frank, I didn't think about it for very long. It had better.
No, but seriously, it was outrageous to me that it's also kind of a weird thing. Like, so how do you feel about these rumors?

Speaker 1 I'm like, like, what are we talking? Like, what are we talking about? These are people's lives. These are people's real lives.
And that's what makes me so upset about it today is when

Speaker 1 I see people peering down at others and making it making it like socially acceptable to peer down and to to say that the trans community should

Speaker 1 be treated this way is is wrong. It is wrong.
It's violent. It is everything I hate.
It is everything I hate. Just go after the most vulnerable people.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That's why community is so important though, because had you not been exposed to community and had you not like had this understanding of people's humanity, someone may have been put in that situation as like a pop star that's being rocketed to fame and like, you know, aggressively trying to be defined by this thing that the media is like, you know, inherently saying is like some negative thing.

Speaker 1 But because you had that exposure to community and because you knew the reality that these are people's lives, you were able to be in that position and be so gorgeous and responsible.

Speaker 1 And that's why that's important.

Speaker 1 The blessing is when I was accepted by the queer community that was the gift to me because then i get to learn and i get to i get to experience and have real relationships that change my insides and sometimes you know people ask you know how can i do this better can you explain this to me like people want to learn more and i you know i always have the desire to say like be friends with more people in the queer community like that's the best the best way to learn is to just be a part of the world and we're and it's and it's quite easy we're all pretty friendly that's right

Speaker 1 The best.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 you are such an important part of that conception for people because I think I had come out of the closet again when Born This Way came out because went to conversion therapy, obviously

Speaker 1 did not work out. I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah. And so Matt had come out in college.
So we've known each other since college. Matt had come out around the same time.
We were both doing comedy.

Speaker 1 He was in the sketch group. I was in the improv group.

Speaker 1 Born This Way came out the same, the single came out the same week as this college comedy festival where we would drive from nyu sidmore to skidmore and we were just blasting that song for 48 straight hours being wasted just like in some like tool shed and grungy grungy grungy grungy as just like that is and he felt emboldened to come out that weekend that's that's really special That's really, really special.

Speaker 1 You're so important to a huge swath of people who only want the best things for you and for each other. And if there is community in this world, it is fully embodied in that sector.

Speaker 1 But also those people need leadership. And you've always been that leader culturally, artistically,

Speaker 1 in so many ways. You have always been that person.

Speaker 1 I appreciate you saying that, but you know what?

Speaker 1 More than being a leader, I just want to do my part.

Speaker 1 And like, I really believe that like we can all do our small part. And then when we all do our small part, it like makes a big part.
And I believe that we will continue to

Speaker 1 show people that are filled with hatred and ignorance that they should be looking up to the queer community and following and learning about love, learning about grace, learning about kindness.

Speaker 1 I really believe that. And I'm not giving up.
No. No, no, no, no.
And we know, and neither are we. And

Speaker 1 it's so interesting that the answer that you gave to the question was almost like the very simple, beautiful answer that felt like was coming out in the results of the election and everything is people were just saying one word, community.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Look around you, water the flowers, build those connections, maybe find new connections.
That's right. Community.
That is really what it's all about, an exposure to the humanity of everybody.

Speaker 1 That's right. And I know that it feels important for me to say too, that yes, I say these things publicly, but like it's actually even more important to me that I live them in my life.
Right.

Speaker 1 Like that, that is the work. Yeah.
Yeah. The category is dance or die.

Speaker 1 It's really the only way forward is to just, is to be joyous and to celebrate each other in that way because like, I think Abra Cadabra is like, my interpretation of it is it is this duel between, it's death or love.

Speaker 1 It's the only alternative. There's really only one option in that video.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 really like she she announces the category but like you kind of know like no we're gonna dance we're can't we can't easy choice for me yeah we're gonna dance speaking of dance okay so we'll be at coachella i'm going weekend one bowen has to work he's gonna go weekend two i think i may go again

Speaker 1 is there well because we're listening to the album we're like oh my god in the desert this is gonna be insane Could you drink some water?

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course. We will be safe.

Speaker 1 Yes. So how long have you been thinking about that performance?

Speaker 1 All night, every night since I said yes. And also,

Speaker 1 you know, before then, I mean, I didn't really get a chance to do Coachella the way I wanted to. Because you were

Speaker 1 filled in.

Speaker 1 You know, it was great. It was actually great for A Star Is Born too, because Coachella agreed to let us use the stage.

Speaker 1 The movie, as you know, making movies in production, like having, you know, places to film is a positive thing. It was great for the film.
Yeah. I had like three days to get ready for it.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Which is absurd. Yeah, it's not fair.
But for this, I'm just putting everything that I have into it and I'm really excited.

Speaker 1 I mean, I do, but I don't want to give anything away because I truly want it to be like big, a big surprise.

Speaker 1 I feel like I have heard you say in recent interviews that you have been moving in the direction of something slightly more stripped down because there was a time in your in your career where you know the set pieces would be like unmanageably big you know what i mean and now you are thinking in terms of sustainability and in terms of like i do yeah i do think a lot more now about like not wasting and not overproducing things because when i was younger i used to get like so nervous that we would like run out of props you know or run out or costumes would get ruined or something wouldn't work well so we would have a backup but now um you know i have an archive with a lot of like costumes from all my previous tours and tv shows and and so now i try to reuse those and repurpose them and in the abracadabra video we did some of that as well as like the the white cape that i'm wearing wedding dresses it's was all vintage wedding dresses

Speaker 1 yeah so you know we i'm trying to yeah i'm changing i don't think you need the overproduction obviously which is what you're saying it's like people will just be

Speaker 1 gagged to see you in any kind of

Speaker 1 stage picture

Speaker 1 you know well the thing about the radio studio show with tony bennett it's like we were with our friend's studio, and we just, the three of us kept saying, she just always knows her stage picture.

Speaker 1 Thank you. But, you know, I do, I do believe when it comes to stage performance, and this is probably has to do more with me like loving theater so much too, is that

Speaker 1 you can do a lot with like a black box theater and a spotlight. And like, it's how it's lit.
It's your pose. It's the way that you say the first line.

Speaker 1 You know, more adornment and more money doesn't necessarily mean better.

Speaker 1 certainly you know it's it's like how you think about it and um how you bring it i think simplicity is actually like very very powerful but that also is not indicative necessarily of what coachella will be so i sure i i just brought that up as a maybe a little bit you were talking

Speaker 1 um on hot ones actually about like performing at the slipper room way back when which is crazy because we because we've done shows there we've done shows there and like i was just thinking to myself when you were talking about that some of my most formative memorable like theatrical experiences have been in rooms with like seven or eight other people watching someone create fantasy

Speaker 1 when you shouldn't be able to. But yet it is the, it is like lighting choices, the way things sound in rooms like that.
That's right. It's the stage.
Yeah. It's like the magic of the stage.

Speaker 1 Because when you do things like...

Speaker 1 I mean, there are clubs where people perform, right? Like in the room, like on the floor. Right.
But to me, the context changes on a stage. You know, you know,

Speaker 1 it's elevated and you know, like, I'm going to see a show and there's going to, something's going to try to move me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I do find in New York, actually, at some of those downtown clubs that like, there is immense talent. Yes.
Immense talent. And it's so much fun.

Speaker 1 And I, and I've always like also been so in awe of the drag shows in New York. Oh, the best.
It is unreal.

Speaker 1 And I've been watching some of the recreations on TikTok of the video and it's just like it's i mean yeah mind blowing oh it's jan jan did it with yeah the next day after the video yeah i mean well how they just i mean they just did all they just put it all like the no but also like the lacing is perfect on the corset and then the hat and the and like i saw people making like the the spiked hat out of plastic and then hands brain painting it cranberry.

Speaker 1 Cranberry.

Speaker 1 I mean, when you came to Drag Race and did that workshop with them that was just taking it the extra mile and i think that telegraphed to everyone that it is about the details it is i mean like that that is such a of course it's about so much more than that but the details do matter you were so detailed in the way that you walked through with those queens i mean i loved being a part of drag race that was so much fun and also a privilege i i loved it so much i mean i think that i have like

Speaker 1 Just the ultimate respect for drag as an art form. I also think drag very often does it so much better than we do it on red carpets, honestly.
Like, I think it's just on another level. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How much of what you do do you think of as drag?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 that's interesting. I probably wouldn't use that word just because I do feel like it's a very specific art form that I don't like do, but there is to me also a drag element.
in what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that, you know, wigs and makeup and costumes always mean drag.

Speaker 1 I think like it is a very beloved and specific art form.

Speaker 1 But not no.

Speaker 1 Certainly not no. But certainly not no.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like sometimes people will

Speaker 1 ask me that. And I just like, it's hard to say yes because I would never want to like take away from someone that's devoted their life to it.
Sure.

Speaker 1 You're coming from a place of respect for what they do. Exactly.
That's my sort of rationale whenever someone's like, what would your drag name be? I'm like, I don't know because

Speaker 1 I've not thought that far because, and I honestly think it's because I love the form so much that I'm like, I don't want to insert myself in that without earning my chops.

Speaker 1 That's right. Well, if I was going to do it, I would have to like step it up in a big way.
Right. So there you go.

Speaker 1 Powered by their best, most elite, high-performing tech, this Wi-Fi doesn't just connect devices. It keeps the peace at home during the most wonderful and most stressful time of the year.

Speaker 1 It's Wi-Fi that keeps your whole home connected so you can actually enjoy the holiday magic. Chaos-free.
The best present of all. Let me paint a picture for you.

Ah!

Speaker 1 Not this season, not with Xfinity Wi-Fi. With Xfiniti, you can boost the Wi-Fi to your device only.

Speaker 1 You won't want to miss it. Listen to Mind the Business, small business success stories on the iHeart app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 Who gets to decide what you're capable of? Your boss, your friends, some stranger on the internet? No, no, and absolutely no. You decide.
Only you. Ford shares that belief.

And a Mustang? the Mustang that conquers curves. You are more capable than you know.

Speaker 1 But then, suddenly, I did a parallel park and I thought, wow, I'm going to apply to Harvard. I didn't get in, but I did parallel park.

Speaker 1 Whether you think you can or you think you can't? You're right. Ready, set

Speaker 1 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes. Total reset.
Right? There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke. It just hits.

Speaker 1 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know? Exactly. Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.
diet coke this is my taste

Speaker 1 to speak on another art form because we we went to nyu here you did a semester at cap 21 yes so we had a bunch of friends in cap 21 we were there and that was like legendary that you had graced that studio for even a second is there still a part of you that would

Speaker 1 do musical theater in like a

Speaker 1 like a mainstream sense like would you go and do broadway and if so is there a role? I think so. Yes.
I think I would love to write a musical. Well, of course.
I think that a new one. Yeah, a new one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I think that, I mean, that would give me the ultimate joy of like crafting all the music and working with amazing writers on developing the story and the script.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, the stage design and the costumes. Yeah.
And like, maybe I'd be in it too. But, you know, just like the idea of writing one, that sounds really, I mean, that's, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 The Cindy Lauper bag.

Speaker 1 I mean, because all my albums basically want to be musical.

Speaker 1 You're in the pocket already.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to close things off with, I don't think so, honey. This is where we take one minute each to rail against something.
I'm trying to think if there's anything else I want to ask you.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know, I know, I know. I have one more thing.
Okay. Okay.
So you, you talk about when you do films. Yeah.
Your commitment to that.

Speaker 1 And like your, I don't know if you, have you described yourself as method? Yes. No, probably, that sounds like something I would say.
Yeah. But embarrassingly remembering, yes.

Speaker 1 No, but I want to know because your performances are so brilliant. I mean, you and Stars, I saw Starsport five times opening weekend.
Thank you. I love House of Gucci.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, I wonder, have you approached acting now in a way that you can feel is sustainable? Or how do you feel when you are

Speaker 1 approaching a role now in terms of what you've learned and what you've done? Because you've done such incredible stuff.

Speaker 1 i think thank you i think that um i love making films yeah i love being an actor it's been a privilege working with such amazing actors yeah and actresses in like every film that i've been a part of um i learned a lot working with joaquin actually like it was a very very enriching experience i would say i don't know that it's acting

Speaker 1 You're really feeling it when you're doing it and it's real. So

Speaker 1 I would say the thing I've learned the most is like to put yourself fully in the moment and to really be in it, you know, as if it was real life and that it is a performance, but that it's not

Speaker 1 pretend. Right.
You know, I was actually working with, it's really sorry to put this moment. I was working with my niece on something related to Wicked.
Oh, okay. She sings.
And I was talking to her.

Speaker 1 about

Speaker 1 you know thinking of a moment in her life where it made her want to uh to cry because she felt so changed inside.

Speaker 1 And what I want to say about acting is, is it's not far from singing, you know, that you have to go to a place where

Speaker 1 you're really truly connecting to what you're saying.

Speaker 1 And it's not just about the words on their own. It's about like the human being behind it.
Right.

Speaker 1 But when you, when you play characters that go through so, like such harrowing stuff. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think that going forward, like, I don't know if you have anything on the books or whatever, but would you ever do, because you love comedy so much, like, does the lightness appeal to you in terms of that?

Speaker 1 It does. It actually does.
Michael's always like, can you please do that?

Speaker 1 Instead of absolutely punishing yourself. Yes.
I would love to do a more lighthearted film.

Speaker 1 I would. But I, you know, I love the dark stuff too.
That's me. I don't think that's it.
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 1 Mayhem. It's mayhem.
Yeah, it's mayhem.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm like a pretty soft person that adores intensity. So I don't really know where that comes from.

Speaker 1 I always thought it was funny when I was making this album because like I would, you know, like I'm at home like making breakfast for me and Michael and then go to the studio and I'm like kind of soft spoken and like just being myself.

Speaker 1 And then like the music was so hard. And it's like, it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
But, you know, I guess that's the way that I deal with myself. It's like the way I deal with my anger.

Speaker 1 It's the way that I deal with my intense feelings. Yeah.
Got it. God.

Speaker 1 We just love you at all for you guys. And whatever you're like, oh, it's just anyway.

Speaker 1 This is amazing having you here, but we're going to do our silly little segment now. I don't think so, honey.
And I guess I'll start it out. I do have something.

Speaker 1 Last night, I sort of was like, I had nervous energy. So I was like, I want to take myself on a YouTube wormhole that I've never experienced before.
I want a new. educational experience and I got one.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to learn. This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so honey's time starts now. I don't think so honey people don't respect elephants.

Speaker 1 You don't understand how complicated their communication is. This is a fact.
Elephants can communicate from miles away with each other without seeing each other.

Speaker 1 They speak, and it is speaking, at a decibel that is so low. Do you understand? I don't think so, honey, you understand.

Speaker 1 It can't be heard by the human ear, but they are always speaking. Elephants have processes they go through for their grief.
They honor their dead. 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 They will walk in in succession and grieve. And there is different ways of communicating.
They're in a matriarchal society. People don't know that.
And get this. It's not just mom.

Speaker 1 It's mom and all her friends raising a child. Community.
It's the aunties. It's the aunties.
It's the friends.

Speaker 1 They will mimic what it is to feed a child, even if they're not feeding it, just to give the child comfort. Elephants are unbelievable.

Speaker 1 They are not just gorgeous. And think about their trunks.
That is amazing. Can you do something like that? I don't think so, honey.
That's one minute.

Speaker 1 You gotta get on my level when it comes to YouTube at this point. I've never been so connected to the animal world.
And you know, sometimes I fear animals. Yes, you do.
Just the wild ones.

Speaker 1 But the elephants are important. But these elephants, have you ever really gotten into elephant culture? I've been dead over that rant.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 no. Have you been to Africa to see them? Yes.

Speaker 1 You're very lucky. You're very lucky.
Oh my God. No, I'm just.
That was amazing. Thank you so much.
I just wanted to give them their shine because, and I actually almost came in here today.

Speaker 1 I, you know, I changed my outfit six times, gaga, and landed in a white polo, but I was going to wear a red sweatshirt with a panda on it. Oh.
And I just, because they're my next target.

Speaker 1 I was like, I need to find out what's happening with them. There's a lot.
There's a lot. Oh, my God.
And by the way, elephants, when they say they never forget, they really don't.

Speaker 1 And that's why it's so important to keep them safe because when they are attacked or they have a family member attacked, the trauma lives in them forever.

Speaker 1 Oh oh my gosh and they remember it and they won't go places where they've expected it is so sad but it's but the knowledge will will embolden us to protect them thank you for your service to the audience

Speaker 1 that was beautiful i just care for them so much and they're so tender and emotional absolutely yeah okay so with that bow and yang do you have an i don't think so honey

Speaker 1 too Okay, wonderful to hear. I love when that is true.
This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey.
His times were now. I don't think so, honey.
Hot ones. You made Lady Gaga cry.

Speaker 1 And you're going to give this woman Dabom? I've had it.

Speaker 1 I had the privilege, quote unquote, of tasting Dabom. And it is battery acid, rancid stuff.
Just kidding, Sean Evans. We love you.
Love you, everybody. First wee feast.

Speaker 1 One of the funnest things I've done personally, you were a champ.

Speaker 1 It was, it did not feel right to make you suffer in that way while you were trying to talk about the album, while you were trying to talk about your career.

Speaker 1 I can't, we need need to put respect on Lady Gaga's time in her promotional bag.

Speaker 1 You can't be making this woman tromp on plant-based wings. I think

Speaker 1 you need to

Speaker 1 do it off camera. Just say,

Speaker 1 Sean, how about this? Say, before we recorded, we had Lady Gaga try these wings. Five seconds.
We're not going to put the indignity of her sweating and crying and chugging down milk on film for you.

Speaker 1 That's not for some things are too precious, and that's one of them. And that's one minute.
Bon Yang said, Fuck your show, change the format so that we can do it. No, but you were amazing.

Speaker 1 You were incredible on it. Oh my God.
What was the process of my life?

Speaker 1 What? No, you, you're still in, you're still absorbing that. I know.
I can't.

Speaker 1 These are like, this is amazing.

Speaker 1 No. Yes.

Speaker 1 Where is this?

Speaker 1 It's, it's special. You blown away by, I don't think so, honey, is so funny.

Speaker 1 You're going to be great. You're going to be great.

Speaker 1 It's not harder than hot ones. Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, but hot ones, was it a good experience? Yes. Yeah.
I had a great time. I'm just kidding.
It was spicy. It was spicy.
But do you, and you, you do spicy? I do. I do do spicy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, what I thought was funny was that I did like seven and they were sort of fine. And then eight out of nowhere.
Yeah, Debunki out of nowhere kills you. I was like,

Speaker 1 what a sneak attack, though. Like, at least let me know at four and six.
Totally. This is going to get bad.
Had you not seen the show?

Speaker 1 no of course I had I just like I don't know if I'd seen like you know 30 episodes right but watching from home you're like oh like I guess it's a linear I thought it would be I kept laughing at myself because I was like it's like not actually a contest it's not a no it's not like I'm like am I winning but like

Speaker 1 if you get to the end you win and you won't you do win you won yeah I love that you totally forgot you were so in the heat of the moment literally that you forgot to promote the album you were like oh yeah you get it to the end you were like oh that was fun what am i here to do that was amazing that was one of my favorite episodes.

Speaker 1 And I, again,

Speaker 1 purely ingest, that is one of the favorite things I've ever done. He's got to do it.
I will do it one day. You got to do it.
I'm manifesting it. It's going to happen.

Speaker 1 But he really, we're doing the verses. We're doing verses.
Matt and I are going to do the ones where you face, where that is a game of contest where you face off against each other.

Speaker 1 But he's going to win. What I think is so sweet is that he mirrors you, is that he'll drink if you drink.

Speaker 1 He eats the wings the same time that you do. I think that's lovely.
I mean, he was really nice. He's so nice.

Speaker 1 He was really nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was so sweet. And I just, I was expecting more spicy.
Yeah. Until, until, and then until I was praying for it to stop.
Until you were praying. Yeah.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Well, anyway, I just had to put, take them to task. And

Speaker 1 it's now time for yours if you'd like to do one. You're going to do one.
I'm so afraid this is going to backfire. No, it's not.
You just say, I don't think so, honey. Then the thing.

Speaker 1 And then you just kind of let it go. Let it go.
One minute goes by fast. This is Lady Gaga's, I don't think so, honey.
That sentence. And her time starts now.

Speaker 1 Basically, I don't think so, honey, honey, that you guys are putting me on the spot to do this. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I don't like to rant. I hate ranting.
I hate confronting people. You're really good at it.
I'm super uncomfortable. I right now am shaking.

Speaker 1 Seriously, I like what would love to just like go on stage and sing and change my outfits and pick my wigs and write songs and make albums and go on tours.

Speaker 1 But I do not want to rant about anything. Oh, no.
It is so scary to me. I feel scared.
I want to cry. No, please don't cry.

Speaker 1 But I love you both so much, but i don't think so that you're putting me on the spot i can't i'm just gonna do whatever you say whenever you ask me to do it when you tell me to do things it makes me want to cry it makes me insane we shouldn't have done this we shouldn't have done that i love you so much and also i don't think so don't you ever put me on the spot ever again but i love doing this

Speaker 1 thank you so much for having me here but please please please don't make me get angry about anything in public oh and that's one minute lady god i'm honestly

Speaker 1 hot ones you should have gotten rid of your hot sauce lost coach we should have not done

Speaker 1 i mean we have to we're the show's done we're we're we're this is the last episode ever this is it how can we beat this kutta is that funny yes are you kidding me i said you have to ask gaga you're back you're you're so but they

Speaker 1 did you break in a sweat i yeah

Speaker 1 come on i you know what i like to plan i know i'm such a control freak i like to plan everything i like to know everything where is the team they were told about something was told Honey.

Speaker 1 I know, and I panicked then and now.

Speaker 1 We're so sorry, but you look

Speaker 1 at a real level. You crushed it.
So there you go. You know, all the best Adam Think Sohone's have been the one that kind of drags us.
Teenafe. Tina Fey dragged us.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Truly, the people who come after us tend to succeed. So well done.
Thank you. Very well done.
I think I got like my voice got very high and loud. You're warmed up now.
Have you already done?

Speaker 1 No, you haven't done your warm up.

Speaker 1 Even on days when you don't perform, you do your warm-up. Yes.
Yeah. It's fun, right? Yeah.
Yeah. It's nice.

Speaker 1 It's grounding and then and like then sometimes yeah okay i can't give too much away i can't give too much away i'm in like the danger zone with coachello where like it's gonna start slipping soon totally because it's it's it's getting closer it's happening you you're seeing the visuals um we cannot fucking wait i'm so excited

Speaker 1 we're coming

Speaker 1 we will take care of you oh no no no no no i'm coming weekend too he's coming

Speaker 1 but i will go again because i have to be there with him to watch it i'm not missing this for the fucking world so literally what it was was we had well i had tickets for the first weekend and he was like, I'll just come Sunday and on the odds I'm working, because I'm working on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Saturday, famously. On the odds that she's performing on Sunday night, I'll just come.
The Friday announcement, we love it. You're going to kick off the weekend so incredibly well.

Speaker 1 But I was like, okay, now I'll go back the second weekend so that I get to go over. Thank you, boyfriend.
Mayhem is out March 7th. That's right.
Two days after my birthday.

Speaker 1 By the way, this kicked off Pisces season in the best way. Oh, yeah.
It's February 19th. Deep in the feels.
This is really, really good stuff. Yeah.
Thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much for having me. I loved this so much.
I love you both so much. Thanks for being so kind to me.
And it was such a nice hang, too. It was.
It really was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope that we can do it again without microphones. Oh, yeah.
We'll get rid of these things. We love that.

Speaker 1 We do end every episode with a song. Killer.
I'm a killer.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to die tonight.

Speaker 1 Killer, killer, killer, killer. For more.
Oh, my God. Listen to me.

Speaker 1 Lost Culture Aces is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Executive produced by Anna Hosnier.

Speaker 1 And produced by Becca Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Labord.
And our music is by Henry Komirsky.

Speaker 1 Ever ask yourself, what am I capable of? Ford believes only you can answer that, even if others try to do it for you.

Speaker 1 You're the one who who defines your legacy, chases the horizon, engineers your dreams, conquers the curves. That capability, it's in you.

Speaker 1 Just like it's built into every F-150, Bronco, Mustang, and every other Ford vehicle. Because whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.
Ready? Set.

Speaker 1 Ford.

Speaker 1 Visit Ford.com to learn more. What if you could boost your Wi-Fi to one of your devices when you need it most? Because Xfinity Wi-Fi can.

Speaker 1 Like when you need to upload 200 photos of your cat in a Santa hat to post online. We've all been there.
And what if your Wi-Fi could proactively fix issues before they even happen?

Speaker 1 Xfinity Wi-Fi does that too. It's like having a little holiday helper.
And what if your Wi-Fi had parental instincts built right in? So your kids are always protected online.

Speaker 1 It's Wi-Fi that's not just smart. It's brilliant.
And during the holidays, that's a gift we all could use. Xfiniti, imagine that.
No one's journey is the same.

Speaker 1 That's why Delta Sky Miles moves with you.

Speaker 1 From earning miles on reloads for coffee runs, shopping, and things you do every day to connecting you to new experiences, a Sky Miles membership fits your lifestyle, letting you do more of what makes you, you.

Speaker 1 It's more than travel. It's the membership that flies, dines, streams, rides, and arrives with you.

Speaker 1 Because when you have a membership that's as unique as you are, there's no telling where your journey will take you next. Learn more at delta.com/slash skymiles.
Guess what?

Speaker 1 It's the holiday season, and you know what that means. Holiday parties, whoa.
Holiday parties, they're the best, but there's always the stress of what to wear, what to bring. Easy solution, okay?

Speaker 1 Bring a bottle of Casamigos. Casamigos? Wow, that is the move.
You can make Casamigos mules. Or Casamigos espresso martinis.
Or Casamigos cram. And don't forget about Casamigos margaritas.

Speaker 1 A Casamigos margarita is the perfect cocktail all year round. Casamigos is just the perfect gift that keeps on giving.
And as the saying goes, anything goes with my Casamigos.

Speaker 1 On second thought, a holiday party might be in order. That's a great idea.
Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigo Spirits Company, White Plains, New York.

Speaker 1 Casamigo Stequila, 40% alcohol by volume. This is an iHeart podcast.

Speaker 1 Guaranteed human.

"We're Gonna Dance" (w/ Lady Gaga) (RE-RELEASE)

Press play and read along

Transcript

More episodes from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

“Kinsey Is A Feeling” (w/ Lucy Dacus)

"Elevated Messy" (w/ Rachel Sennott)

"The Protagonist" (w/ Heather Gay)

“Drinkin' The Soda” (w/ Brittany Snow)

"All Up In The Macabre" (w/ Sarah Paulson)