“Kinsey Is A Feeling” (w/ Lucy Dacus)

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Speaker 5 Look, man.

Speaker 51 Oh, I see. My eye.
Oh, my.

Speaker 81 Oh, and look over there. Wow, is that the culture? Yes.

Speaker 51 Goodness. Wow.

Speaker 82 Las Cultoristas.

Speaker 83 Ding-dong.

Speaker 59 Las Culturistas calling.

Speaker 78 So I bet you're wondering why I'm wearing no sleeves.

Speaker 85 In December, even.

Speaker 87 Well, peek behind the curtain, but I've decided that I want to break you and the guests up.

Speaker 88 I want to be the most wanted man.

Speaker 89 Well, get ready.

Speaker 90 Get ready.

Speaker 93 Your face is going to be in that frame for the entirety of the song.

Speaker 94 All I want.

Speaker 96 Oh, is that really your face in the entire time?

Speaker 99 Celeste and I were having a ball because it was just my dumb little face in that gorgeous frame during this amazing song, Most Wanted Man, for the entirety of the song.

Speaker 101 And

Speaker 92 I was looking at myself in the third person, staring at myself, going, that's what I look like.

Speaker 103 As an object.

Speaker 104 As an object.

Speaker 105 No, and do not change the way you've done it.

Speaker 43 She would never. Our guest is so polite.

Speaker 108 I hugged my guest on the way in.

Speaker 92 She's going to the bathroom. I'm leaving.

Speaker 109 She goes, is this the thing where we're not allowed to talk to each other before?

Speaker 111 I'm toying with the idea of every time a new guest comes into Las Calderez, Bo and I are just on our phones like this.

Speaker 86 Hey, hey,

Speaker 64 imagine.

Speaker 98 I cannot, well, one of the highlights of my year/slash life was singing with our guest on television, on celluloid.

Speaker 115 Well, that's our guest is here to promote our single.

Speaker 69 I don't want to miss a thing live from the culture awards.

Speaker 117 Just kidding.

Speaker 69 This is a major Grammy winning artist that we have a collab with.

Speaker 120 High five.

Speaker 85 Hi, Hi, five on you.

Speaker 121 You motherfucker.

Speaker 86 I'm so fucking proud of you.

Speaker 16 I've been so fucking proud of you.

Speaker 124 I'm so fucking proud of you how far you've come from nothing to everything.

Speaker 123 You came from nothing.

Speaker 95 When I met you, you were in the dirt.

Speaker 89 You were in the dirt.

Speaker 125 You were in the dirt.

Speaker 89 You took me to the dirt. You took me to the dirt.

Speaker 9 We're in our Mary Cosby

Speaker 97 era.

Speaker 106 No, our guest is obviously here.

Speaker 102 She's promoting the Australian.

Speaker 108 Asian legs of her amazing forever is a fear.

Speaker 86 Australian Asian legs like you.

Speaker 92 Like me, my Australian Asian legs. And she's ending.

Speaker 127 She's born in Brisbane and Asian.

Speaker 43 The last tour technically May 2026.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 128 The Asia of America, which is Vancouver.

Speaker 129 Is that geographically?

Speaker 130 I think so.

Speaker 131 Or is that more tonally?

Speaker 85 Tonally, I think.

Speaker 107 I think there is a huge neighborhood in Vancouver called Richmond. I believe

Speaker 98 that has all of the Asians.

Speaker 94 No.

Speaker 98 As if all of our other guests haven't broken in during this moment.

Speaker 132 Yeah, but again, that's how you know they're not for real.

Speaker 92 Forever's a feeling, the archives, the bonus tracks, including a Jim Crochet cover of Time in the Bottle.

Speaker 111 The Jim Croce cover, the Time in the Bottle cover is

Speaker 51 one of the great covers.

Speaker 119 But that's our guest is just like

Speaker 115 one of the great talents.

Speaker 98 One of the great talents, one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.

Speaker 106 Your crush. My crush.

Speaker 111 I was so fucking proud of you when you shot your shot.

Speaker 16 You came from nothing.

Speaker 9 When I met you, you would have never spoken to a man, woman, or more.

Speaker 95 You never would have.

Speaker 98 I never, well, I literally didn't speak to this person when I first met them.

Speaker 113 We've talked about this to each other, but we need to talk about it on the podcast.

Speaker 139 Okay, everyone, please welcome into your ears.

Speaker 85 Lucy Dakis.

Speaker 59 Welcome.

Speaker 141 Doing everything not to talk and laugh.

Speaker 142 I don't need to, I just want to watch.

Speaker 59 We know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 145 This is like the best seat for just watching you guys talk.

Speaker 130 I mean, you are right there.

Speaker 68 This is a great seat, but we are watching it and talking with you.

Speaker 72 The object of Bo and Yini's affection.

Speaker 71 I know. What do you think?

Speaker 127 How am I doing? Great.

Speaker 147 No, actually.

Speaker 110 I'm sort of useless when it comes to sexuality with women, though.

Speaker 148 Like, he's more of a Kinsey.

Speaker 149 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 86 What do you make of this?

Speaker 150 This is a conventionally attractive man.

Speaker 29 Yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 37 I guess what I mean is, like, if it, if it really got down to it, and you and I were to date, I'm not saying that, like, I know that you're otherwise engaged,

Speaker 110 spoken for, but I'm just saying, like, I do think that Bowen could do more for you.

Speaker 157 Wow.

Speaker 102 I have nothing to add to that.

Speaker 119 I don't think he's a Kinsey, what, four?

Speaker 158 I would say four or five.

Speaker 127 You can actually find out your number.

Speaker 59 I think it's forever.

Speaker 85 I think it's just a. I think forever is a feeling.
I think it's a feeling.

Speaker 91 Kinsey is a feeling.

Speaker 83 We're so linked.

Speaker 143 I'm like, how am I going to keep up?

Speaker 86 Kinsey is a feeling might be title of that.

Speaker 59 Kinsey is a feeling. Yeah.

Speaker 99 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 85 Forever is a feeling.

Speaker 93 I think when you were saying this to Janelle, does that mean eternity is ephemeral?

Speaker 149 Sure. Okay.

Speaker 164 Yeah, I feel like when you feel forever, it's momentary.

Speaker 51 Oh, beautiful.

Speaker 165 You said it actually better.

Speaker 143 I don't know why I repeated it in worse.

Speaker 150 No, I wanted you to confirm it.

Speaker 86 I'm confirming it. That was a leading question, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 144 Eternity

Speaker 167 is ephemeral.

Speaker 53 That's other alliteration.

Speaker 128 Other alliteration.

Speaker 91 Or that's, is that assonance when it's vowels?

Speaker 126 No, no.

Speaker 115 That's a really, that's a you question.

Speaker 92 Y'all were humanities majors, right?

Speaker 59 I dropped out of college. Dead shot.
Yeah.

Speaker 89 Very clear.

Speaker 168 Does it hit the rope with your music?

Speaker 170 I'm intimidated that you have a crush on me because you're going to find out something about me and just think that I'm lame.

Speaker 146 That's the thing about having a crush, right?

Speaker 172 Is that that it's like this

Speaker 142 place within which you find out something that crashes the whole thing.

Speaker 86 No.

Speaker 37 What do you think is the thing about you that we're going to find out that makes us go?

Speaker 59 It's so early. Got that.

Speaker 144 I'll think about that and I'll just interrupt what I'm thinking about

Speaker 86 to tell you.

Speaker 127 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 Do you know yours?

Speaker 94 Sure.

Speaker 101 This is the reason why I haven't been in a relationship longer than six months is I'm a farter.

Speaker 149 Oh, I fart a lot, and it's not

Speaker 160 good. You know, this.

Speaker 86 Oh, that's intimacy, honey.

Speaker 172 Into me, you see.

Speaker 179 Remember that Katy Perry song?

Speaker 160 It exists.

Speaker 38 Um, I don't need that. Yeah, oh, anyway, um, yeah, I've heard the farts.

Speaker 168 Our bit since college is that it's like an angry Egyptian king, not a pharaoh, a king.

Speaker 164 I don't know what the distinction entails.

Speaker 59 It'll make sense.

Speaker 95 It's sort of like this.

Speaker 116 Like it's as if

Speaker 69 it's a very wide sound.

Speaker 89 It is a wide sound.

Speaker 68 And it's also, it's really more like this.

Speaker 177 You know what I mean?

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 180 Remember the popular?

Speaker 68 Remember that?

Speaker 86 Yeah. That culture? Remember that you just did it.

Speaker 86 You remember brat, brat, brat.

Speaker 168 Guys, white guys who were trying to be other races were often doing like,

Speaker 147 yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 172 Yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 182 It's sort of like, what

Speaker 160 culture?

Speaker 85 What were the more recent?

Speaker 183 Were these guys out here in Richmond in high school?

Speaker 160 Sure.

Speaker 144 I went to like a nerd high school, so I'm sure that was happening.

Speaker 181 Oh, so

Speaker 184 it was Maggie L.

Speaker 164 Walker Governor School for Government and International Studies.

Speaker 59 Excuse me.

Speaker 68 Why aren't you president by now?

Speaker 66 Nobody who wants to be president is okay.

Speaker 127 Wow.

Speaker 89 You ate that.

Speaker 122 I'm going to say something.

Speaker 86 I'm going going to say something controversial.

Speaker 86 What is it to me? Do not leave me.

Speaker 146 I thought you were raising your hand to say something controversial.

Speaker 187 Bowen, the thing that no one noticed is that he's always raising his hand.

Speaker 43 I'm always raising my hand to speak.

Speaker 186 Okay.

Speaker 102 You're right. Celestia and I have talked about this a lot.

Speaker 93 And I think you and I have talked about this.

Speaker 89 Anyone who aspires to political office is

Speaker 109 sick in the head.

Speaker 104 I'm sorry. And anyone who wants to be us being show business is sick in the fucking head.

Speaker 69 No, no. In a different way, in a more benign way.

Speaker 65 I think it's so beautiful.

Speaker 127 It depends.

Speaker 86 We'll cut this out. Yeah.
No,

Speaker 150 first of all, I don't think it depends.

Speaker 118 I do think that people who want,

Speaker 161 and this is going to come out after all elections, so to say.

Speaker 105 It's the last election ever.

Speaker 86 Oh, my God.

Speaker 97 Hey, sorry.

Speaker 112 But I will say, like, you can be an egomaniac that does want to do good.

Speaker 160 Sure.

Speaker 86 You know what I'm saying? Oh, yes, 100%.

Speaker 116 That's deeply a lot of people.

Speaker 43 It's still an egomaniac at the end of the day, which is.

Speaker 86 a neutral thing.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 154 Politically minded.

Speaker 53 See, you can tell she went to high school for government because she knows nothing about brain.

Speaker 160 Yeah.

Speaker 16 What was your sort of major?

Speaker 127 In high school?

Speaker 175 Well, you did to graduate, you had to take five government courses and you had to take minimum two languages, but they had like 12 languages or something.

Speaker 89 So then what were your two and five?

Speaker 175 I took French and Russian.

Speaker 142 I am not fluent in Russian and I am

Speaker 193 okay at French.

Speaker 100 You can speak a little French, no problem.

Speaker 185 It's kind of like going bowling.

Speaker 194 Like sometimes I'm on and sometimes I'm off. Right.

Speaker 161 And that is what bowling is.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 195 And pool.

Speaker 196 Yeah. Oh, pool is.
Yeah.

Speaker 84 But when you're good at pool, when you're having a good pool night, sort of very powerful.

Speaker 167 And I don't know what means.

Speaker 83 It's very sexy.

Speaker 144 Yeah, no.

Speaker 43 In an ungendered way, I think being good at pool is sexy.

Speaker 184 Yes.

Speaker 162 Anybody who can make that happen.

Speaker 164 What is it?

Speaker 198 What's it connected to in like our biology?

Speaker 139 Like draping yourself over a surface.

Speaker 139 Like it is like different position.

Speaker 102 Like it is like the body orienting itself in different ways.

Speaker 106 That kind of thing. Precision.
Precision.

Speaker 167 Coordination and power, I think.

Speaker 200 And power. Coordination and power.

Speaker 144 Lighting.

Speaker 86 Lighting.

Speaker 201 Oh, yeah. The lighting is huge.

Speaker 16 Lighting is huge.

Speaker 160 There is also the moment.

Speaker 160 Yeah, it's like

Speaker 97 very overhead.

Speaker 204 Lucy, what's that moment when someone cracks a thing and they know they did well and they sort of

Speaker 172 come up.

Speaker 35 They've done it and then they go.

Speaker 140 Yeah.

Speaker 86 You know what I mean? Like they survey it. They're like,

Speaker 140 yes.

Speaker 205 You know what I mean? Even alone.

Speaker 172 I think people that play pool alone are hotter than people that bowl alone.

Speaker 94 But who are they hot to?

Speaker 160 Themselves. That's just

Speaker 207 having a moment.

Speaker 205 Bowling alone is.

Speaker 142 If you're hot in a forest alone, are you hot?

Speaker 206 Is that kind of disadvantaged?

Speaker 98 Actually, that's what I'm asking.

Speaker 86 Are you, I think we should all, let's all go around.

Speaker 69 Okay.

Speaker 97 And ask yourself this.

Speaker 126 Are you hot to yourself?

Speaker 16 I don't think, I think, I think actually, yes, I'm hot to myself.

Speaker 92 And in the quiet of my own space, I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 133 I'm going to be vulnerable.

Speaker 53 In the mirror, I'm a supermodel to myself. I'm so hot to myself.

Speaker 127 I look in mirrors and I'm like, this is really good.

Speaker 71 Lucky me.

Speaker 153 Another day like this.

Speaker 130 In all pictures, gremlified.

Speaker 159 Like, truly bird in the dictionary.

Speaker 53 The person in the picture.

Speaker 68 Get out of the picture.

Speaker 167 Yeah.

Speaker 74 Get this picture away from me.

Speaker 115 But in mirrors, it sort of balances out the ego because it's like, I want to destroy myself.

Speaker 68 Or I'm like, well,

Speaker 109 I'm amazing.

Speaker 172 I can't believe it.

Speaker 143 Well, you are different every day.

Speaker 160 People don't realize this.

Speaker 86 Talk more about that.

Speaker 165 Water distribution, like

Speaker 208 for some people, a monthly cycle is involved.

Speaker 209 Your brain also is changing all the time.

Speaker 198 What you ate will change what you're doing.

Speaker 122 This is your friend who's studying public health at Hopkins.

Speaker 126 This is what they're telling you. Shout out Elena.

Speaker 86 Elena

Speaker 86 listens to this.

Speaker 159 What? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 122 So thank you.

Speaker 86 Elena, you legend.

Speaker 49 Elena is a legend.

Speaker 210 Whenever I find out someone smart listens to the podcast.

Speaker 142 Oh, all my smartest, smartest, coolest friends listen to this.

Speaker 160 No,

Speaker 109 we're telling y'all.

Speaker 127 I will stop now.

Speaker 129 What?

Speaker 144 No, this is delightful.

Speaker 83 I'm happy right now.

Speaker 146 Lucy.

Speaker 147 I want to say, though,

Speaker 185 I am a very inconsistent person. Sometimes I wake up, I'm like, hell yeah, this rocks.

Speaker 211 Other times I'm like, I should die.

Speaker 172 But getting your award for me as good as Lost Altrucius Awards was a real boon.

Speaker 133 I was like, how did it feel to receive the Sun award for so fucking hot?

Speaker 152 It felt amazing that day.

Speaker 206 I thought maybe, maybe I am hot.

Speaker 143 So thanks for that day.

Speaker 106 No, maybe it's about it.

Speaker 91 Confirmed.

Speaker 66 Thank you so much.

Speaker 92 Can I just briefly, quickly mention our first meeting, which was it was seeing Lucy at Forest Hills.

Speaker 102 Because that was a great, that was a great bill.

Speaker 43 It was Lucy.

Speaker 98 It was former guests of the show, Wax Ahatchee, Katie Critchfield, and Connor Oberst.

Speaker 112 And you had just played.

Speaker 98 And then Celeste and I just got into like the little back area where you were just chilling. And then I turned around and I, it was like staring at the sun.

Speaker 102 I was like, oh, and I got really shy.

Speaker 107 You know me, I get shy.

Speaker 79 Illumineers song played in his heart.

Speaker 120 Yes.

Speaker 107 I got so shy.

Speaker 98 But if it's someone that I love, I shut down. I can't speak.

Speaker 137 He, well, it's true. Like he,

Speaker 148 certain people occupy a space for him where he's completely, he sees like some of the most intimidating people in the world.

Speaker 148 And then certain people, I can list you, Real Housewife of Falt Lake City, Meredith Marks.

Speaker 148 These are people that have stopped Boeing in his truck.

Speaker 106 Stop company.

Speaker 94 Have muted me.

Speaker 149 Wow.

Speaker 105 Have muted my ass.

Speaker 118 You have muted me.

Speaker 86 Oh, my God. Anyway, I just want to get my experience of that.
Was that you? You got it?

Speaker 155 I'm going to do what I saw.

Speaker 126 Oh, my God.

Speaker 144 No, do it. Do it.

Speaker 164 Because I remember this too, because I kind of lit up and I was about to be like, hey,

Speaker 189 we had a moment.

Speaker 86 You're not wrong. But he turned away.

Speaker 160 But here, this is what it was. It was.

Speaker 86 Bowen. You can't do that.

Speaker 95 Because you have to accept your Bowen Yang.

Speaker 213 Because you can't, which I thought distinctly was like, don't fucking talk to me.

Speaker 66 No,

Speaker 92 it was me going full catatonia, non-verbal, non-verbalia.

Speaker 142 I probably, I like to go up and talk to people because everyone actually does like that to not have to be the first one to do it. So you might as well just fall on the sword and be wrong occasionally.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 142 And just like bounce back, just like grow up.

Speaker 172 Because it's not the end of the world if that's right.

Speaker 160 If someone doesn't want to talk to you.

Speaker 171 And also that might have to do, again, with their mood.

Speaker 170 And you just be like, cool, you didn't sleep well or you just got bad news yeah i'm gonna walk away yeah but most of the time people go from that face to smiling and they have this front because everyone is in their own head about of course who they are and what they're doing yeah but i was like i'm gonna leave it be and now look at us and now look at us everything worked out and it literally worked out in a song you guys have on spotify True.

Speaker 86 Okay. Think about that.

Speaker 111 Think of this no greater expression of love than uploading something on just.

Speaker 160 Covering Aerosmith.

Speaker 51 Covering Aerosmith together.

Speaker 118 Did you know the song beforehand?

Speaker 185 Yeah. How do you know?

Speaker 164 I don't remember.

Speaker 185 I'm not knowing the song.

Speaker 86 I'm just saying.

Speaker 78 It's like, not everyone knows every song, but that is quite a famous song.

Speaker 153 It is, I think, the most wonderful song.

Speaker 97 It's a really good song.

Speaker 59 It's a really good song.

Speaker 155 So fun.

Speaker 174 I love that I was the low harmony.

Speaker 161 Y'all got to do it. It's true, actually.

Speaker 51 I love that.

Speaker 212 But Lucy Daggis on a Diane Warren song is so powerful, I think.

Speaker 142 I'm not doing research that often on things I like.

Speaker 164 Because if I like it, it just completed what it was meant to do.

Speaker 116 100%.

Speaker 136 It exists in its own.

Speaker 1 And in a way that's like antithetical to y'all's podcast, because I feel like culture-loving people.

Speaker 92 We don't know.

Speaker 178 And informationally, we're very, very bad, very illiterate with when it comes to.

Speaker 164 That's like, I know some things.

Speaker 216 I mean, I think sometimes

Speaker 111 I actually feel the opposite.

Speaker 84 Sometimes I know a lot of things about things and I'll realize like, oh, I haven't seen that movie.

Speaker 78 Like, I guess we can reveal now, you know, what movie we still haven't watched?

Speaker 217 The Godfather. Right.

Speaker 218 We said, we said months ago on the podcast there was one of the most famous movies in American history, and we were teasing what it was we didn't say.

Speaker 84 Can confirm now it's The Godfather, and we've still not seen it.

Speaker 158 Have a movie night.

Speaker 196 We should. Sure.

Speaker 59 Which last

Speaker 173 Paddington 2 movie night after we kept it as a reward after the year of doing stuff together?

Speaker 197 We were like, and once the Grammys are over, we will watch Paddington 2.

Speaker 106 Why Paddington 2?

Speaker 86 Why not? Why Paddington 2?

Speaker 220 I hear such a joy.

Speaker 141 It's a joy, but it also is so weird.

Speaker 147 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Paddington goes to jail, right?

Speaker 164 They have like a banner that is like a embroidered banner that says prison, sweet prison.

Speaker 127 Yeah,

Speaker 149 well, that's misleading.

Speaker 169 Who's coming up with this?

Speaker 169 The threats, the justice system, it's just, but also, I mean, it's like a delightful little time, and they're like, What is going on?

Speaker 69 Does he get out of prison?

Speaker 159 Uh, yeah, okay, I guess yeah, he's not still there.

Speaker 200 Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 173 Spoilers on Paddington 2.

Speaker 164 I haven't seen Paddington 1 or 3.

Speaker 173 3.

Speaker 119 Is there a 3?

Speaker 43 Paddington goes to Peru.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 153 Jail then Peru.

Speaker 64 Jail then Peru. Jail to Peru pipeline.

Speaker 43 Yeah. That could be the title of that.

Speaker 99 But it's a, it's, um, what is it?

Speaker 106 Kinsey is a feeling.

Speaker 144 It's Kinsey is a Kinsey, which I do really like.

Speaker 105 That is good.

Speaker 92 This is not a test you take. I think we were, just to go back to that conversation, it is, it is a feeling.

Speaker 91 And I'm, I'm landing myself at a four, between a four and a five.

Speaker 93 So between zero and six,

Speaker 102 zero being full hat, six being full homo.

Speaker 59 Oh, so like, I mean, what would you say?

Speaker 90 Where would you say you are?

Speaker 181 A six. I'm a six.

Speaker 66 Okay, okay.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm just a gay guy.

Speaker 133 You know what I mean?

Speaker 130 Like, I'm one, I'm one of the gay guys.

Speaker 92 I don't want you to tell us the number. I want you to just think about it.
And then

Speaker 92 once you've confirmed it, just let us know.

Speaker 196 Because this would be huge news.

Speaker 99 No, we're not, we're not going to.

Speaker 139 This isn't the scoop.

Speaker 122 Is that your thinking position?

Speaker 158 Yes, Galaxy Brain, Lucy.

Speaker 127 Galaxy Brain.

Speaker 53 We were top.

Speaker 182 Did you decide the number? Yeah.

Speaker 106 You look content with the number.

Speaker 172 I feel good about myself. You know yourself.

Speaker 144 Yeah.

Speaker 164 What's so cool is you can know yourself and other people don't have to.

Speaker 83 Oh,

Speaker 221 I don't know what that's like.

Speaker 222 That's the opposite of my experience.

Speaker 139 I don't know myself and other people seem to know everything about me.

Speaker 106 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 196 Which is not true. Dang.

Speaker 103 So speaking of knowing things about you and sharing that information, we hope that you, you know, keep anything to yourself you want, but there's a question that's the central question of our podcast.

Speaker 181 We must ask it. Okay.

Speaker 218 This is Lucy Dacas. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

Speaker 165 I thought way back.

Speaker 169 Yeah.

Speaker 184 And there's early loves and childhood, but I think the thing that really like got my spark going is the Muppets.

Speaker 209 Oh,

Speaker 84 let's go.

Speaker 79 The Muppet came to my mind this morning.

Speaker 189 How did he do that?

Speaker 161 I don't know.

Speaker 148 Actually, you know what?

Speaker 188 I was talking about

Speaker 136 the new Ryan Murphy show, All's Fair, which is this Kim Kardashian legal drama that has Glenn Close and Sarah Paulson and Tayana Taylor.

Speaker 95 And I was like, the cast of a Ryan Murphy show, you would not be surprised if you're like,

Speaker 224 it's Kermit and Meryl Street.

Speaker 54 Kermit and Meryl Street play each other's sex slaves.

Speaker 79 And that's by night.

Speaker 153 And by day, they're elementary school teachers.

Speaker 217 That's like a Ryan Murphy show.

Speaker 71 It's Kermit and Meryl.

Speaker 74 And it's very raw. It's very sexual.

Speaker 133 But it's emotional and very funny.

Speaker 93 Why am I so seated?

Speaker 115 Of course, you'd be seated.

Speaker 86 And that's the power of Ryan Murphy.

Speaker 127 I know. And we're talking Meryl today.

Speaker 122 Of course, Meryl today. You can't get her from before.

Speaker 160 Okay.

Speaker 144 Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 69 She's not getting any younger, and I hate saying that to everyone.

Speaker 171 Well, she is getting more fabulous all the time.

Speaker 161 100%.

Speaker 200 It's just exponential.

Speaker 127 Of course.

Speaker 178 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 128 Yeah.

Speaker 135 What was your first exposure to the Muppets?

Speaker 175 I feel like my grandma's house, my grandma would tape things,

Speaker 162 and she had a bunch of Muppet show tapes. Or maybe before being able to tape things, you just bought the VHS

Speaker 59 of them.

Speaker 209 And that, and then the Christmas Muppets, what offerings?

Speaker 69 Muppet Treasure Island.

Speaker 146 Muppet Treasure Island.

Speaker 83 We got Catherine Fever.

Speaker 158 Oh, my God.

Speaker 159 The fit.

Speaker 155 I love that you said that.

Speaker 189 You did acknowledge Miss Piggy in one of your awards, which I'm glad because whose mood board does not include Miss Piggy?

Speaker 133 I don't know a person.

Speaker 185 Yeah.

Speaker 164 There's no one who's not referencing and bowing down to

Speaker 164 no one I respect.

Speaker 143 Yeah, no, no, no. There's probably people who it's not in mind, but their minds are uninteresting.

Speaker 43 I would agree. Oh my God, yes.

Speaker 91 Well, Miss Piggy is one of those examples in pop culture where she's clearly the amalgamation of like all of these old Hollywood tropes, and yet she transcends them.

Speaker 93 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 128 It's like, oh, like the sum is greater than the parts.

Speaker 102 Yeah. I'm sorry.

Speaker 101 Like, I'm sorry to whatever the, you know, the, the, the Betty Davis is or whatever, like the old

Speaker 212 Marlene is, or, or, or it's um,

Speaker 101 although, although Miss Piggy hasn't really had like a queer moment like Merlina, I feel like Miss Piggy should go full we know of,

Speaker 161 yeah.

Speaker 133 That's Miss Piggy, like she knows so much more about herself than we know, which is real culture number eight.

Speaker 160 Miss Piggy, she knows so much more about herself than we know.

Speaker 85 I just think Miss Piggy,

Speaker 108 Miss Piggy is, Miss Piggy is allowed to be violent.

Speaker 138 Would you say this?

Speaker 189 Hiya!

Speaker 146 Yeah, there's a lot 100% that is

Speaker 222 I'm not gotcha.

Speaker 183 No, I think, no, I think a lot of I think violence violence has a very important place in everyone's life.

Speaker 66 That's the poll code.

Speaker 155 Thank you.

Speaker 158 Violence has a very important place.

Speaker 65 Radical queer artist, Lucy Vacus

Speaker 182 champions violence and Miss Piggy.

Speaker 181 On Lost Culture Resources podcast.

Speaker 86 Oh, my God.

Speaker 97 Some people deserve it.

Speaker 143 Yeah.

Speaker 127 That's so true.

Speaker 153 Well, every time Miss Piggy said hiya, it was warranted.

Speaker 134 And I think that was a thing that like was really important in the establishment of her is like, she was not a violent woman.

Speaker 93 No, she was driven to violence.

Speaker 127 No, no.

Speaker 137 She has priorities which are her hair and her shoes and the violence is getting in the way of these things so it's like very much important to her obviously if it's superseding her excellence and how she looks wow her number one thing when she wakes up in the morning miss piggy opens her eyes do her eyes ever close yes i've seen her eyes close no head blinking is you're right okay so she she does open her eyes and then she thinks how can i entertain the world so anything that's going to come between her and her purpose is that canon or is that your feeling?

Speaker 115 She famously wants to do a show.

Speaker 141 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 160 She doesn't want to do a show.

Speaker 68 She wants to at the vanity.

Speaker 119 Yeah, she's at the vanity.

Speaker 144 She's speaking her face.

Speaker 97 She's ready to go on.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 159 You know what I mean?

Speaker 53 I feel like a common refrain set around her is like, almost time for places.

Speaker 122 Just places, Miss Piggy.

Speaker 164 I do also feel like the high femme of it all is like, and with Kermit, there's something just

Speaker 207 maybe Miss Piggy hasn't had her queer moment, but I'm like, maybe she is.

Speaker 229 It's already kind of, there is a queer ring of the romance there, right?

Speaker 178 Like,

Speaker 102 it's inner species.

Speaker 86 It is.

Speaker 66 Wait, it's pigs are queer?

Speaker 126 If a pig was fucking a frog, I think that's queer.

Speaker 160 That's queer, mom.

Speaker 141 Okay.

Speaker 164 I think if you saw that, I thought you were going to think you were like reading like Science Daily or something and telling me like, oh, pigs are gay now.

Speaker 59 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 109 I would love to find out. I would love to find that.

Speaker 43 They're very smart animals.

Speaker 86 I think they would ride a pig.

Speaker 133 That was one of the big famous celebrity facts from the 90s.

Speaker 68 George Cooney has a pig. Okay.

Speaker 85 Sweet.

Speaker 108 Are you going to visit the pig cafes in Japan when you're there?

Speaker 192 I don't even know those exist, but yeah, now.

Speaker 144 Yeah, actually,

Speaker 164 just text me recommendations.

Speaker 194 I'm starring everything on my map.

Speaker 133 When are you going to be there?

Speaker 160 February 18th.

Speaker 164 And then a whole week after.

Speaker 92 You're going to be there for sumo season, I think.

Speaker 157 For like the sumo.

Speaker 112 I've never been.

Speaker 101 I want to go so badly.

Speaker 97 We're going to just miss it, I guess.

Speaker 171 You're going to be there before?

Speaker 161 January.

Speaker 132 We're there the second half of January.

Speaker 59 For fun. For fun.

Speaker 231 It's Bowen's birthday trip.

Speaker 64 Very excited. Cute.

Speaker 86 Cute.

Speaker 202 Kawaii, even.

Speaker 149 What?

Speaker 71 Don't give me a dirty look.

Speaker 111 What if I make my whole thing Japan when I come back?

Speaker 116 Like, I'm Gwen Stefani down.

Speaker 121 Like, I'm Kawaii.

Speaker 139 You wouldn't be Gwen Stefani.

Speaker 102 You would be like respectful.

Speaker 43 Well, not that.

Speaker 154 No.

Speaker 88 No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 86 Just kidding. Can you imagine?

Speaker 68 Can you imagine?

Speaker 134 Make a cultural appropriation announcement.

Speaker 62 I thought you would do it back in the day.

Speaker 207 that'd be better than what other people are doing yeah people are just embodying it no thoughts yeah truly yeah have you been there before no

Speaker 92 i'm very excited and then and and and the group is going i see the band friends

Speaker 86 oh yeah we have some friends that are going to meet us there the whole band is staying because we're getting over there so why not why not stay yeah new tour bus there or you're taking no it's one show so i thought it was multiple well australia is all part of Laneway Fest, which is like a traveling festival.

Speaker 195 So they, I think they fly you from city to city.

Speaker 208 What I really hope is that it's a big plane and all of the artists get to be on the same plane and hang out on the plane.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 143 But

Speaker 186 I don't know if that's what happens.

Speaker 126 You can request that.

Speaker 174 Yeah.

Speaker 225 For everyone to change their plans.

Speaker 198 Yeah.

Speaker 136 On a plane, are you like very social?

Speaker 185 No, but people want me to be.

Speaker 233 Yeah.

Speaker 184 I just feel in an Uber.

Speaker 194 Like everyone is talking to me.

Speaker 164 Everyone turns and is like, oh my God. My childhood trauma is this.

Speaker 200 Or

Speaker 200 my dreams are.

Speaker 93 We just had this.

Speaker 93 We were finishing with a swamp tour where it was pouring rain.

Speaker 212 We were all wet rat, drowned rat.

Speaker 139 We get an unprompted, this man, lovely man. I'm not saying drivers can't speak, obviously.

Speaker 93 I don't want that to be the implication here.

Speaker 176 The life story, but it was unprompted.

Speaker 92 Like, well, September of 1978, my family moved from Shreveport to New Orleans.

Speaker 95 And it was, I was, it was, it was astounding.

Speaker 93 And we, somehow I was hanging on to every, I was like, okay, well, I'm invested now.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 142 How long was the drive?

Speaker 94 45 minutes.

Speaker 54 Okay. Yeah.
It was up there. And it doesn't

Speaker 119 stop.

Speaker 95 In the last five minutes, it stopped, but only because I think he had exhausted himself.

Speaker 137 He had given us every date and event of his life.

Speaker 118 It really, it really is crazy.

Speaker 135 I wish, I wish I was that tapped in.

Speaker 155 Yeah.

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Speaker 92 I have a question for you because I've been thinking about this, this conversation that you've had with Janelle a lot, especially in this like go-to-the-party sense.

Speaker 92 Like self-care culture is sort of insulating us in a way that maybe is not,

Speaker 106 that is, that is precluding like actual connection with other people.

Speaker 112 Like, so let's say we're, you're, people are talking at you or on the plane, everyone wants to talk to you.

Speaker 43 At what point do you go?

Speaker 230 I should, I should, I should reach out and connect. I should put out my own feelers.

Speaker 98 At what point are you doing that versus, well, I just want to be in my own space?

Speaker 164 I think as a rule, I have the over-the-headphone noise canceling.

Speaker 142 Yeah.

Speaker 207 headphones on with nothing happening in there at a point until i am seated and i do most of my like listening listening to music for the first time on a plane because I'm like super focused or like movies always make me cry on a plane.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 183 But I have had people like tap me on the shoulder, talk to me.

Speaker 192 I put it back, tap me on the shoulder.

Speaker 208 There was this guy that tapped me on my shoulder.

Speaker 225 And I was like, yeah.

Speaker 185 And he was like, people don't connect enough these days.

Speaker 122 Which he's not wrong.

Speaker 163 And I was just like, yeah.

Speaker 189 And I was like, I

Speaker 96 really was.

Speaker 164 looking forward to and planning on listening to something.

Speaker 214 So I hope you have a great flight.

Speaker 127 but i'm gonna go back you know i tried to be like polite and then he did it again no and i was like okay so here we go six hours and he told me some of the worst stuff i've ever heard

Speaker 185 he he like um

Speaker 208 he works for the military right and he loads bombs onto planes and he's like i love my job because i can see the effect of my work in the paper the next day what

Speaker 272 and i was like i want you to answer this how do you sleep at night yeah i want you to to tell me, this isn't rhetorical.

Speaker 214 How do you sleep at night?

Speaker 200 What do you say?

Speaker 192 And he was just like, I'm just proud of defending my country.

Speaker 127 And

Speaker 211 I was just like, I think that what you're contributing to is morally reprehensible.

Speaker 206 And

Speaker 213 I hope that the weight of people's lives like weighs you down at some point.

Speaker 164 And like, all I can hope for you is change.

Speaker 163 But also, like, he had, he's like, look at my phone background.

Speaker 171 And it was a like

Speaker 172 big chested topless woman in daisy dukes fishing and i was like oh is that your girlfriend he's like no that i'm aspiring to that yeah he's manifesting

Speaker 208 like he was just at me like trying to get something

Speaker 169 like from me and i but what he got was like i think that you are a terrible person yeah and i think that you wanted that a little bit sour yeah i don't know if do people with sour hearts want to be seen or like do they think that there is something to people like that being like, yeah, get into it, get, let's get into a back and forth with me.

Speaker 118 I want to be like challenged, you know what I mean?

Speaker 163 Like, it's it, I think, and in a way, I'm like, I would like if you want to be challenged, are you opening a door?

Speaker 193 Because, like,

Speaker 143 if you are, if you have to put words to what you're doing, or is that going to change something for you?

Speaker 193 I don't know.

Speaker 93 We don't, we don't get to change people, but I don't think you, I don't think he wanted to be challenged.

Speaker 100 I think people like that, I'm going to project and surmise people who like murder.

Speaker 90 Well, yeah, are people who like

Speaker 212 something is like a little bit their internal sense of morals are kind of all over the fucking yeah let's just say and so what

Speaker 174 he he he works out every day and the funniest thing he said was i feel my muscles atrophy as i'm sitting here

Speaker 132 Because he wasn't actively working out.

Speaker 127 He had me like that.

Speaker 220 He loved to do it that much.

Speaker 16 But he had you touch his arm.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 163 He takes whatever that thing is that helps you keep water weight.

Speaker 86 creatine creatine oh okay or whatever yeah

Speaker 64 we take it from behind the table and start putting in the toilet everyone like a bunch of hot girls i know are taking creatine creatine's a thing it's it's a thing and i've started taking it a little bit and it has helped with like some some bulk or some muscle development amazing yeah you would love this guy it sounds like yeah you love this guy yeah yeah he's on my phone background i'm aspiring

Speaker 108 yeah do you think when he looks in the mirror he thinks he's hot oh yeah yeah definitely I mean, so then that's an example of like you're putting your own sort of mechanisms at work in terms of connection.

Speaker 98 And this is someone that you're like, I've learned what I should know about you.

Speaker 103 And I've made an assessment that, like, this is, these are the limits of my connection.

Speaker 113 Maybe.

Speaker 162 Well, even like it is still connecting when you are learning someone that you dislike.

Speaker 142 And that's informative too.

Speaker 207 It can be like a homing device for your own values.

Speaker 197 Totally.

Speaker 198 Or just like, wow,

Speaker 198 I guess I do know who I am because there are people like that,

Speaker 197 you know, yeah, and like, and also, it's just like heartbreaking to, I'm like, your life

Speaker 198 one day, hopefully, you will find that it was for nothing and meaningless.

Speaker 169 So, this is supposed to be fun. I'm sorry,

Speaker 158 we can talk about culture.

Speaker 144 This is culture, unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, yeah.

Speaker 126 Pardon, no, this guy, like, is direct, like, this guy's day is so directly linked to people's, like, mass death.

Speaker 86 Well, those people are on planes, I will say.

Speaker 111 Like, I don't know if you thought we were on planes yesterday.

Speaker 97 We were on planes.

Speaker 111 Yeah, I'm always fascinated by just how many people are watching Fox News on the plane.

Speaker 111 Like, there was a guy in front of us on the plane yesterday who was watching Fox News, and then he watched the film.

Speaker 137 Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day, which I can say I know the title of the movie just by seeing the actresses on screen.

Speaker 154 It was Frances McDorman and Amy Adams.

Speaker 84 I am, again, a Kinsey 6 gay. Kinsey is a feeling.

Speaker 205 I feel strongly gay.

Speaker 51 Okay.

Speaker 153 And I was watching it and I was like, wow, what is the Fox News to Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day pipeline?

Speaker 161 But then a lot of gay guys are Republicans.

Speaker 79 You hear about Grinder crashing out at the conventions?

Speaker 53 These guys are gay.

Speaker 231 They love Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day.

Speaker 196 They live for Francis McDormand.

Speaker 136 And they're gay and they're voting against us.

Speaker 127 They're going home.

Speaker 54 They're having sex in the butt.

Speaker 71 And they're coming to work and they're sending out bombs.

Speaker 102 Like for that guy guy to be into big titted Fisher girl,

Speaker 85 it's horseshoe theory to something.

Speaker 214 It's a little like suspicious that you really had to show me that.

Speaker 159 Yeah.

Speaker 86 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 135 It's like, it's like gender maxing in a way that is like, huh.

Speaker 139 You know what I mean?

Speaker 77 Yeah.

Speaker 133 It has to be rooted in like, I'm like, look how much of a man I am.

Speaker 71 Feel my arm.

Speaker 133 Look at my bombs.

Speaker 137 Want to see what I want to fuck?

Speaker 76 Ain't nothing more cis than this.

Speaker 53 Like, it's just like,

Speaker 130 it's an Olympic feat.

Speaker 203 And to do this on a plane when someone is captive is also very

Speaker 203 good.

Speaker 195 Well, I'm like, that's also like

Speaker 211 pussy behavior to have a captive audience.

Speaker 211 Oh, yeah, I can say whatever.

Speaker 151 I'm like,

Speaker 195 you just, you just.

Speaker 185 You are, I'm powerless in the situation, and that's what's fun.

Speaker 97 Yeah. Anyway.

Speaker 181 But then, but then what's what's great is here you are telling, telling the story, and now we all actually intrinsically know exactly what this guy looks like I love when people just don't know who they're talking to or dealing with or they forget like for have you have you listened to the Lily Allen album yet?

Speaker 204 No, I would really like to what's so shocking is so you know, I won't name names, but it's ostensibly about her very famous ex-husband and

Speaker 148 This guy marries Lily Allen, right?

Speaker 136 Like some of these people will fully marry or start dating these like really like evocative singer-songwriters and then at some point they'll forget and they'll do the craziest shit to them.

Speaker 95 And then you get this album written about you and your choices.

Speaker 160 And it's like, yeah, I guess you just forgot who you married.

Speaker 125 Like, what, what is,

Speaker 182 and then people will be like, ooh, the whole, she wrote a song about me thing, that, that, that, like, that happens in culture.

Speaker 95 It's like, you, but you knew who you were dealing with in the beginning, an artist.

Speaker 117 It wasn't a reveal. It wasn't a job.

Speaker 86 No, it wasn't a reveal.

Speaker 153 And if it is a reveal, then wow, you really didn't value the relationship that you were in or see see the person.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 198 It's a fucking you really got to get right with yourself before dating an artist, I think.

Speaker 211 Because if you're going to get depicted and you should have a life that you would be proud of being depicted, 100%.

Speaker 103 So here, and here you are like with another artist.

Speaker 153 How do you feel about being depicted?

Speaker 116 Like, well, have you guys talked about that?

Speaker 195 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 201 I mean, we like it.

Speaker 89 We like it. Yeah, we like it.
Yeah.

Speaker 152 Because we like each other.

Speaker 164 Right.

Speaker 173 And I would say for the most part, we are right with ourselves.

Speaker 162 But if I write something, I'll show it and be like, are you cool with this?

Speaker 170 And then usually the answer is yes.

Speaker 233 And if the answer is like, yeah, this detail feels a little like something or other, like, we'll just talk about it.

Speaker 43 Guess what?

Speaker 94 That's a relationship.

Speaker 196 Yeah, you can just talk about it.

Speaker 16 You can just talk about it.

Speaker 65 Valuing the other person for holistically who they are.

Speaker 161 Because probably one of the big reasons you fell in love is because of that talent and that gift and that access to your emotions and being able to channel that and funnel that into your work, which connects with so many people.

Speaker 209 I love your brain.

Speaker 223 Like if you're feeding me through your brain, like what, that's such a privilege.

Speaker 106 Favorite Muppet?

Speaker 164 Favorite Muppet.

Speaker 208 I mean, it is Miss Piggy.

Speaker 206 Yeah.

Speaker 206 Gonzo Rocks.

Speaker 59 Obviously.

Speaker 192 Yeah.

Speaker 181 What do you think of Fozzie Bear?

Speaker 66 I love Fozzie Bear.

Speaker 127 Do you not like Fozzie Bear?

Speaker 64 I think you're a Fozzie Bear.

Speaker 131 Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 176 Like, I know I am Fozzie Bear.

Speaker 160 So you see yourself.

Speaker 119 Do you think I'm Fozzie Bear?

Speaker 139 You're a little bit Fozzie, a little bit gonzo.

Speaker 128 A little bit. A little bit piggy for sure.

Speaker 185 Also, Pepe the King prawn. Do you know what that's called? Yeah,

Speaker 86 of course.

Speaker 147 The little hair going everywhere.

Speaker 126 Just the eye, the mouth. Swedish chef.

Speaker 221 Swedish chef.

Speaker 69 I like Beaker.

Speaker 145 Beaker's so...

Speaker 91 Yeah. I'm Bunsen.

Speaker 64 He's Beaker for sure.

Speaker 189 How are y'all not

Speaker 43 Piggy and Kermi? No. No.

Speaker 127 Burt and Ernie? No.

Speaker 189 The guy, the hecklers. Oh, yes.

Speaker 94 Statler and Waldorf.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 59 Of course. Is that not your position?

Speaker 189 Like, is this not your box at the theater?

Speaker 133 By the way, you want to know my favorite joke of all time.

Speaker 148 No, please tell her.

Speaker 115 It's at the end of, and rest in peace, the Muppets 3D show at

Speaker 103 Disney World. And the Statler and Waldorf are in their little, I call them the Lincoln seats.

Speaker 88 They're up in the box.

Speaker 37 And the show is over.

Speaker 86 And they're like, we got to go.

Speaker 166 And then the other one goes, we can't.

Speaker 119 We're bolted to the seats.

Speaker 148 and i was just like i loved that they really broke the fourth wall there because they are puppets they are bolted to the seats they're never leaving and then the horror crept in because i realized they're never leaving they're never leaving well now they are because they demolished

Speaker 165 oh that's why rip

Speaker 116 okay i was like they're making a new monster's ink the dream died okay the dream died

Speaker 191 rip the dream well the dream lives on with the monsters inks

Speaker 114 yes okay also don't worry about the muppets they're moving to rock and roller coaster.

Speaker 64 I hate a lot of what I know.

Speaker 86 You know what I mean?

Speaker 83 I hate that was real.

Speaker 140 There is. Oh, my God.

Speaker 147 Well, this is a news outlet, frankly.

Speaker 221 He keeps up with it.

Speaker 144 Yeah.

Speaker 222 I say that with no judgment.

Speaker 16 I know.

Speaker 111 Sometimes I'll come on here and I'll just use an opportunity for the podcast to like break news in theme parks to the readers.

Speaker 59 Are you theme park? Some people like it.

Speaker 190 You love theme parks?

Speaker 95 Yeah, I love them in like an it

Speaker 133 didn't start out ironically.

Speaker 79 Now it's kind of ironic.

Speaker 111 It's just one of those industries that I keep up with.

Speaker 181 It's like an it's like one of my synapse fires when I'm finding out what's being built.

Speaker 164 Do you know anything about King's Dominion in Virginia?

Speaker 59 I do. Yeah.

Speaker 200 Because that was that was my haunt.

Speaker 175 Was it? That was like some of my early moments without parents.

Speaker 133 Was going to King's Dominion.

Speaker 116 Going to King's Dominion.

Speaker 200 That's a whole culture in and of itself.

Speaker 181 Talk to us about that.

Speaker 200 Well, like the parents think, oh, they'll be safe because it's all, we're in the parking lot and they can't get in and out.

Speaker 125 And

Speaker 152 there are drugs at the park.

Speaker 145 not to sound like a conservative uh no no no talk peep talking head but like there's drugs in the park everybody's like like first people like smoking weed like uh people are hooking up at the park

Speaker 185 uh all of the regular childhood meannesses that have to come out are happening at the theme park yeah uh the wave pool don't never touch a wave pool no never get into the wave pool never get into the wave pool why is there a wave pool at king's dominion at a medieval themed park it's not medieval

Speaker 213 but kings you would would think so, that it's a King's Dominion.

Speaker 127 What's the aesthetic?

Speaker 171 Why have I never, there's nothing general?

Speaker 145 There's sections.

Speaker 273 There's like the kids' area that was peanuts.

Speaker 162 Yeah.

Speaker 184 There's like a Nickelodeon area.

Speaker 152 Maybe there's not anymore.

Speaker 184 There's like kind of a jungle-y area, the anaconda and the volcano.

Speaker 53 That one has a couple good roller coasters.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 116 King's Dominion. Yeah.

Speaker 273 Yeah.

Speaker 163 And then there's like the section of like just new, like, oh, this is the tallest, whatever.

Speaker 66 This is the fastest fall.

Speaker 162 And it's just, there's no no theme. It's just,

Speaker 116 I guess. Chaos.
Chaos. Yeah.

Speaker 135 Now, you would, it was your haunt.

Speaker 91 Like you would be skipping Russian to go to King's Dominion during the day, or this is like summer hang.

Speaker 139 Like, where, like, how would you, how would you find yourself there?

Speaker 164 It was mostly middle school.

Speaker 172 And definitely, like, kids had birthday parties.

Speaker 207 Weirdly, the pizza at King's Dominion was different than all the other pizza I've ever had.

Speaker 195 It's like kind of puffy.

Speaker 160 Puffy pizza. I love puffy.

Speaker 66 Yeah, like kind of puffy.

Speaker 143 Like it was good. Like, I wish that you could order it.

Speaker 86 It's kind of slutty.

Speaker 169 Like it sounds really bad, but it was kind of good.

Speaker 95 So puffy in terms of like the cheese was rich or puffy in terms of the dough was bubbling up.

Speaker 214 Yeah, the dough was bubbling up.

Speaker 127 Glutinous as fuck.

Speaker 214 Glutinous as fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 191 And yeah, the cheese was probably bad, but I probably liked it.

Speaker 86 God.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 136 Remember being that age and being like, I'm going to go eat some puffy pizza, ride up.

Speaker 220 Dipping these rides and dip and drops and treat my body like that.

Speaker 195 The future of ice cream.

Speaker 86 Isn't that their tag? Yes.

Speaker 161 The the future of ice cream is the future of ice.

Speaker 79 Because they turned out to not really be the future of ice cream, huh?

Speaker 79 Because we're dipping dots now.

Speaker 134 I mean, I did have

Speaker 195 dip and dots at Niagara Falls recently, and that was cool.

Speaker 164 I recommend this entire experience, but you have to go on the

Speaker 209 Maiden of the Mist.

Speaker 151 Lady of the Mist, Maiden of the Mist, Maiden of the Mist, which is

Speaker 113 as a child, I've not done this in my adult.

Speaker 147 It's actually

Speaker 172 so cool. It's an incredible

Speaker 164 wonders of the world.

Speaker 273 But to look at it, it's great.

Speaker 223 But Made of the Mist, like you're in the water.

Speaker 172 Like your whole vision wipes out.

Speaker 213 Like there, you, it's very sublime.

Speaker 194 Like, it's my whole band, like, we'll do this because we're on tour.

Speaker 170 And then everyone came out, like, kind of changed and awed by it.

Speaker 135 Which you don't have anymore.

Speaker 92 Awe is harder.

Speaker 16 The sublime is harder and harder to reach.

Speaker 114 The sublime is harder to reach.

Speaker 97 That's real culture.

Speaker 203 Yes, which one is that?

Speaker 98 That's real culture number two.

Speaker 122 The sublime is harder and harder to reach.

Speaker 130 He defined awe the other day.

Speaker 136 Can you do it now?

Speaker 51 Awe.

Speaker 43 The things that you, the ingredients you need for awe are psychological safety, which of course we don't have anymore because we are constantly surveilled.

Speaker 98 We're watching ourselves in the third person.

Speaker 92 That leads to more self-judgment and self, whatever, just like, just like self-modulation of like behavior, right?

Speaker 90 Like I.

Speaker 135 I never want to be perceived.

Speaker 113 I, over the years, I've wanted to be perceived less and less because I'm perceiving myself all the time every week.

Speaker 43 And I'm like, I less of that, please.

Speaker 99 Anyway, you need psychological safety, you need um

Speaker 98 connection, it needs Ozbest experience with other people, yeah.

Speaker 112 And um, I forget the third thing, but it's it's these things that like are fraying at the edges, like with the advancement of certain technologies, yeah.

Speaker 109 And so, I'm so going to Niagara Falls, made in the mist, sounds about red with your bandmates.

Speaker 163 There's a bit of odd there.

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Speaker 29 Maybe this is even why this this came up.

Speaker 79 We recently went on an alligator swamp tour.

Speaker 123 Now, where

Speaker 86 Florida? We were in New Orleans.

Speaker 69 New Orleans.

Speaker 4 So before you ask, no, it was not with Lana Delray's husband.

Speaker 86 Okay.

Speaker 115 We thought about it.

Speaker 120 Okay. But we would have had to travel

Speaker 65 an extra hour to get.

Speaker 106 He's doing that job. He's doing that job still.
Wow.

Speaker 225 I can't imagine how his job has changed.

Speaker 114 Lana must be big for you.

Speaker 164 Yeah, she's a great songwriter.

Speaker 185 She DM'd me to open for her.

Speaker 173 I don't know if people realize this, but the Norman fucking Rockwell tour, a lot of those shows she booked herself.

Speaker 160 Yeah.

Speaker 162 Like DIY, but she like emailed the venues and was like, hello, I'm Lana Del Rey.

Speaker 192 I would like to come through this venue on this date.

Speaker 164 I feel nervous. I'm always nervous talking about other people.

Speaker 16 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is, I think, this is documented.

Speaker 155 People can know this.

Speaker 86 Yeah, this is documented in the world.

Speaker 208 And then she DM'd a ton of people to open like only days prior.

Speaker 184 And I ended a tour in Michigan.

Speaker 225 And she was like, do you want to open in Chicago in two days?

Speaker 160 And sick.

Speaker 183 We were like, yeah, I'll be there in a sec.

Speaker 51 And you did. It happened.
Yeah.

Speaker 127 Oh my god.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 43 That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 34 I feel like that, that's a good one-to-one.

Speaker 98 But we, we, do you think we experienced the sublime?

Speaker 180 Well, because

Speaker 89 I think we did because

Speaker 133 we, we, again, it was not Mr.

Speaker 137 Del Rey, which actually was fun because I was like, you know, maybe we should just keep that lore separate.

Speaker 148 So we had this amazing man.

Speaker 116 His name was Captain Kelly.

Speaker 86 And we get out into the swamp and just to see like a wild alligator sort of swim up like a dog, like literally, like the airboat would stop and the alligator would swim up and know that it meant we were, he was going to get fed by Captain Kelly.

Speaker 86 Like panting.

Speaker 182 tail wagging.

Speaker 95 Like and literally swimming up and then it was kind of

Speaker 89 sweet and cute.

Speaker 95 Yeah. Because it would just sit there with its mouth open like this.

Speaker 95 And the captain would feed it.

Speaker 259 And someone goes, Well, he's so nice.

Speaker 123 How long have you known this alligator?

Speaker 224 And the guy was like, Nah, he would get me.

Speaker 182 He would, he would bite me and get me.

Speaker 71 If I'm lucky, I still have my fingers.

Speaker 86 Yeah, I'm still on my fingers.

Speaker 153 And he, because he was sort of saying, like, it seems like I have a relationship with this reptile, but it's still

Speaker 97 an alligator. It would kill it.

Speaker 86 Okay, good. Yeah.

Speaker 137 This was awe for me.

Speaker 204 Like, watching the alligator, it was over 12 feet long.

Speaker 174 Oh my gosh, that's two long guys.

Speaker 117 That's too long.

Speaker 144 That's two really long long guys.

Speaker 157 Or three. Two tall.

Speaker 159 Or three short guys.

Speaker 158 Or short guys.

Speaker 130 And it was thick.

Speaker 118 And then Captain Kelly tapped the back of the carapace.

Speaker 86 Was that the carapace? Is that the word? Right?

Speaker 160 Okay.

Speaker 115 Were you trying to define the scale?

Speaker 122 I think so.

Speaker 195 I was usually the first person in the room to ask what a carapace is.

Speaker 92 Anyway, it sounds like you nodded just to confirm the appropriate terminology.

Speaker 137 This is when you revealed that your high school was sort of like a reptile high school.

Speaker 88 All gator high school.

Speaker 51 Alligator.

Speaker 59 I would have been what you just wanted to get.

Speaker 59 The back.

Speaker 86 The back. Yeah.

Speaker 115 The back.

Speaker 188 But he tapped on it and it was

Speaker 69 incredibly hollow and hard.

Speaker 86 Of the boat?

Speaker 53 Yeah. No, of the back of the alligator's back.

Speaker 231 The carapace.

Speaker 95 And then he tapped. So he tapped

Speaker 115 the boat, and it sounded the same as when he tapped the back of the alligator.

Speaker 89 Like the hole of the, yeah.

Speaker 157 Yeah.

Speaker 86 Wait, what?

Speaker 88 Basically, the alligator's back was really hard.

Speaker 169 Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 137 But then they had us hold a baby alligator, and I was so shook because it just felt like

Speaker 94 a sack of meat.

Speaker 165 Was it kind of like,

Speaker 86 yes.

Speaker 86 It was

Speaker 86 a bad thing.

Speaker 127 It was Teehemo.

Speaker 144 It was Temo and you.

Speaker 16 And then Captain Kelly tried to scare me.

Speaker 115 I was the most skittish around holding the alligator.

Speaker 154 That's like one thing about me.

Speaker 227 Like, I don't need to touch the animals.

Speaker 185 And yet you went out of your way to

Speaker 144 experience.

Speaker 129 And experienced awe.

Speaker 136 Having the experience of visually was one thing, but then like, all right, everyone, now we're going to hold an alligator.

Speaker 153 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 159 You, you sort of.

Speaker 97 I liked the alligator.

Speaker 89 You liked it.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Not feeling creepy.

Speaker 201 Would you hold a koala?

Speaker 127 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 160 Really? I don't need to hold any animals.

Speaker 233 I really don't.

Speaker 193 Would you pet an animal?

Speaker 75 Yes, I would.

Speaker 95 I would say I'm pretty good with domestic animals.

Speaker 203 But like, in terms of like animals at the zoo and stuff, like, I don't need

Speaker 167 to pet it.

Speaker 118 Like, I don't need to feel the scales.

Speaker 74 Like, you know,

Speaker 160 they respect the distance. Yeah.
Totally.

Speaker 86 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 174 You don't really get to ask because they can't really tell you yes or no.

Speaker 106 Right.

Speaker 115 It also felt like everyone else did it.

Speaker 167 So then if I'm the one person who doesn't do it, it's like, hmm, I guess, like, yeah, give me, give me the alligator.

Speaker 223 There's this huge thing where musicians go in whole koalas when they tour Australia.

Speaker 127 Have you done this? I've done this.

Speaker 94 Yeah. I'm not a musician.

Speaker 143 Okay, but you are a great singer.

Speaker 66 Let's talk about this.

Speaker 195 Both of you have incredible voices.

Speaker 154 That's kind of you.

Speaker 190 But you stand in line, and on either side of the line are koalas asleep because they sleep like 20 hours a day and they just wake up to eat bamboo and it makes them high and they go back to sleep.

Speaker 277 It makes them high.

Speaker 168 It makes them high.

Speaker 97 Bamboo and the eucalyptus. They make them high.

Speaker 213 Eucalyptus. That's what.

Speaker 200 Thank you.

Speaker 86 They're drug addicts.

Speaker 213 They're drug addicts. Yeah.

Speaker 164 They're just getting out.

Speaker 211 Yeah. They all have chlamydia.

Speaker 142 So it's this like

Speaker 66 not hub sanctuary for the koalas.

Speaker 214 I guess the sanctuary is a hub.

Speaker 160 Yes.

Speaker 132 But But they're like the Aerosmith of animals.

Speaker 140 Because

Speaker 117 they're drug addicts and they fuck.

Speaker 115 It's actually roller culture number 30.

Speaker 86 Koalas are the Arrowsmith of animals.

Speaker 97 Because they're drug addicts.

Speaker 86 Drug addicts and they fuck.

Speaker 81 How are you guys?

Speaker 218 Also, I want to tell you that Arrowsmith used to be on rock and roller coaster and now they're getting replaced with the Muppets, which is probably why they were top of mind for that.

Speaker 215 rule of culture.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 158 So they are out of rock and roller coaster, but they're in the rules of of all that are converging.

Speaker 126 Okay, but so then does this mean what you've gone through?

Speaker 142 I held a koala and you're like, oh, it's going to be cute and cuddly.

Speaker 223 But then you get there and their claws are like this.

Speaker 164 And they have heft to them.

Speaker 184 And I'm like holding this koala and it like looks at me like

Speaker 162 in the eyes.

Speaker 143 And I'm like, I'm holding like a dinosaur or something.

Speaker 127 Like, I can't believe I'm

Speaker 195 touching history.

Speaker 143 Like, wow, koala, you're famous.

Speaker 141 Like, everyone knows about you. Yeah, you are.

Speaker 59 You're so significant.

Speaker 158 right?

Speaker 142 And then they're like, and on the way out, if you want to go touch some kangaroos, go ahead.

Speaker 184 And then they just open a gate unsupervised.

Speaker 208 You can go touch a hundred kangaroos.

Speaker 273 You wait in line for the koala.

Speaker 208 And then as if they don't matter, they just are like, by the way, there's a bunch of kangaroos. And they hand you food.

Speaker 164 And you can go and like hug and touch and hang out with them for as long as you want.

Speaker 189 Which I'm like, I would, I would stand in line for the koangaroo.

Speaker 92 You would stand in line for kangaroos, but this is the reason why kangaroos are sort of in an open pen without supervision is because they are basically rodents in Australia.

Speaker 128 They want to get rid of them. Yeah,

Speaker 112 they are selling kangaroo meat at the grocery store.

Speaker 79 I can't stand the way they reproduce.

Speaker 177 Have you seen it?

Speaker 115 No. Essentially, two little

Speaker 143 stomach kind of hurts, though.

Speaker 152 Well, you're going to tell me something weird.

Speaker 86 Go ahead.

Speaker 65 Imagine I say this, and Lucy Dacas just pukes.

Speaker 69 Our first guest to throw up all over the white table.

Speaker 86 Oh my.

Speaker 122 Lucy Dacas.

Speaker 119 Lucy Dacas.

Speaker 74 You threw up all over the white table

Speaker 129 don't tell us about the kangaroo yeah look it up i don't even want to get into it because if here's one thing that will happen if you throw up i will throw up should we like stop talking about

Speaker 117 rachel forget it forget it she takes the pictures and she's gonna throw up

Speaker 71 bowen yang

Speaker 86 i'm just gonna start farting

Speaker 103 shitting i'm farting someone breaks up with me again

Speaker 129 no one's broken up with you You two because

Speaker 140 I swear.

Speaker 158 Okay, fine, fine, fine.

Speaker 166 We're off. No one's broken up with you because of the farce.

Speaker 105 They've not said as much.

Speaker 213 Maybe it's hard to say.

Speaker 155 Yeah, maybe it's hard to say.

Speaker 20 Maybe it's hard to say.

Speaker 129 Although, I would just.

Speaker 160 I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make that.

Speaker 86 No, no, I'm happy to talk about that.

Speaker 71 Yeah, and anytime I get,

Speaker 133 well, I've only been broken up with like hardcore like once.

Speaker 148 Oh, but it was sort of like amorphous and like uncertainty.

Speaker 86 Well, that's it.

Speaker 97 It's unclear, but i it's fine it's in the past okay i it is kind of nice to know a concrete reason you know what i mean yeah like because that that because then you can deal with it whereas like if it's like an amorphous thing like so you

Speaker 133 if someone was like sorry bow it was the farts i'd be like great be like okay

Speaker 86 Yeah, I'll work on that.

Speaker 144 It's better. It's better

Speaker 190 that it's the other person's problem.

Speaker 173 Like, if you're so shallow, like, then they're just, they're counting themselves out of the running.

Speaker 103 If you can't have me at my farting, you can't have me at my vomits.

Speaker 191 Sure.

Speaker 101 You know?

Speaker 91 When was the last time you threw up?

Speaker 158 No, don't go.

Speaker 129 I thought I was going to throw up last night, actually.

Speaker 51 Oh, my God.

Speaker 86 I ate too fast.

Speaker 141 To me, you're like, you're nine years old right now.

Speaker 59 I'm always

Speaker 83 like, I almost threw up last night because I ate too fast.

Speaker 103 I ordered lemon chicken from the diner because I'm losing my battle every single night with smoking too much weed and eating food.

Speaker 134 Okay.

Speaker 110 So I ate too much weed and then I ordered a lemon chicken, mashed potatoes, zucchini.

Speaker 71 Okay.

Speaker 79 And Avalomegnon soup.

Speaker 149 How do you say this?

Speaker 158 Do you think it was the lemon chicken and not the

Speaker 137 I think it was all of it together.

Speaker 37 I just got so excited about how good it was that you ever eat too fast because of this reason.

Speaker 152 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 191 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 176 Then I thought, am I going to throw up for the first time in?

Speaker 271 And I couldn't even remember the last time I threw up.

Speaker 160 That didn't, though.

Speaker 97 But thought I would. Thought you would.

Speaker 103 Okay.

Speaker 139 What are you and Katie Gavin like on the tour bus?

Speaker 127 I'm sure you'd like to know.

Speaker 167 My two crushes.

Speaker 129 Your two crushes.

Speaker 86 You didn't like what company the last time she threw up.

Speaker 94 I don't want you to answer that.

Speaker 2 When did you throw it?

Speaker 86 She does it right now.

Speaker 143 I don't remember.

Speaker 51 I can't tell.

Speaker 86 I couldn't tell.

Speaker 213 It probably was like a,

Speaker 170 I used to be able to drink like a lot and not feel anything.

Speaker 170 And I didn't start drinking until I was like 21, like after, because I was like afraid of it.

Speaker 198 I grew up kind of afraid of it.

Speaker 198 And then recently, it's like, I'll have like two glasses of wine and I'll be like, I'm sick.

Speaker 174 Yeah.

Speaker 226 So I just like don't really drink.

Speaker 64 That's good.

Speaker 274 And yeah.

Speaker 214 This is happening to many people in my life.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 115 As you get older, you realize it really is just poison.

Speaker 200 It is just poison.

Speaker 193 You feel the poison working on you.

Speaker 134 It's like a sick feeling and not a fun feeling. No, for sure.

Speaker 102 But you and Katie.

Speaker 9 What are y'all order?

Speaker 206 What are y'all eating i want to know what are we eating well we have catering which is nice because there's so many people there's like over 20 people that we go with and everyone's so busy and so you don't really have time to go out and so we'll get like fruits and veggies but caterers on the bus

Speaker 145 not on the bus like at the venues oh great but what is what is katie eating i don't know she can't we had we had separate buses which maybe is you know sad no because we would have been having such fun but

Speaker 106 pals.

Speaker 170 We are going to dinner in LA, which we should all go to dinner.

Speaker 51 Where are you going all time? Yeah, Kate.

Speaker 205 I didn't know you were going to all time.

Speaker 86 I haven't gone there.

Speaker 174 We went to Spina, which is like

Speaker 122 Spina.

Speaker 143 Yeah, I like it too.

Speaker 115 You know what I go all the time? Superba.

Speaker 86 Superb. I've never been there.

Speaker 160 Boy, is that Superba?

Speaker 127 Superba.

Speaker 122 But I love Bakari.

Speaker 77 And Bakari.

Speaker 97 Bakari, Silver Lake.

Speaker 143 Okay. It's a good date spot.

Speaker 191 All right.

Speaker 143 I don't know

Speaker 174 about these things. Bring your artist.

Speaker 141 Bring your artist to Cari.

Speaker 160 No one knows who it is.

Speaker 158 We won't say.

Speaker 140 Yeah, secret secrets.

Speaker 122 Secrets?

Speaker 97 I would love to dinner with y'all.

Speaker 102 I would get all hot and being back here gets me hot in the face.

Speaker 110 When we were in Coachella and you guys FaceTimed,

Speaker 219 that was a big

Speaker 94 power.

Speaker 143 You just did that.

Speaker 162 I forget that you can just use your phone.

Speaker 200 Yeah.

Speaker 164 You're just at any point, just boom, like someone can get into your life.

Speaker 84 I just realized have, I now have a song with Lucy and Katie.

Speaker 141 Oh, wow.

Speaker 59 Wow.

Speaker 97 Get on my level now.

Speaker 106 Oh, that's real.

Speaker 100 I'm really thinking about that.

Speaker 140 I'm really thinking about that.

Speaker 106 No, that's so amazing.

Speaker 134 And I'll perform it at my tour.

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Speaker 17 one of my loved ones, too.

Speaker 17 Ah,

Speaker 139 this is I don't think zony.

Speaker 85 This is our segment where we take one minute to really go off on something in culture.

Speaker 102 It's a polemic.

Speaker 89 It is

Speaker 90 really

Speaker 138 destructive.

Speaker 160 And that's what we need more of if we do our job.

Speaker 84 I have something.

Speaker 117 Okay.

Speaker 144 Yeah.

Speaker 144 We're each going to do it.

Speaker 143 We're going to go first.

Speaker 106 And then you get to choose out of your options.

Speaker 133 Yeah.

Speaker 110 Because you said you had five options for I don't think so many, but you feel strongly about one thing.

Speaker 164 Well, I feel strongly about all of them, but not all of them. Am I willing to hear what other people have to say?

Speaker 118 I understand.

Speaker 187 So what do you think about the idea of you just kind of telling us what they all are?

Speaker 86 And then later, okay, okay, okay, I'll do the whole, I'll do how many minutes you got later. We can do this.

Speaker 160 You got minutes? Yeah,

Speaker 159 you got minutes.

Speaker 110 But for first, one minute from me, then Bo,

Speaker 16 then Lucy Vegas.

Speaker 167 Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 92 This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 76 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 84 Avatar, Fire, and Ash trailer.

Speaker 116 What is it about?

Speaker 118 What is the movie about?

Speaker 69 Because

Speaker 69 I know

Speaker 220 that a lot is happening.

Speaker 115 Yes.

Speaker 95 I know there's a lot of screaming, explosions, and more, but I do need to know the story of the film.

Speaker 204 I understand also the trailer is very international.

Speaker 148 It being a very international movie, this will make billions of dollars.

Speaker 95 I'm sure I'm so happy for everyone involved, but I do need to know what the movie is about. I understand

Speaker 95 that, like, we don't really go for the story, but it would be nice to know.

Speaker 123 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 103 What would you say Way of Water was about?

Speaker 59 Oh, the water, I guess.

Speaker 95 The baby was strong.

Speaker 160 See, this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 115 It's like, what do you remember from Avatar Way of Water?

Speaker 95 My baby is strong.

Speaker 132 She was a singer of songs, et cetera.

Speaker 160 15 seconds.

Speaker 95 Give me some lines of dialogue that is not just like a Navy screaming through the air, landing on a spacecraft.

Speaker 220 Like, I understand the humans are definitely bad again. Like, we love that.

Speaker 65 I was once told I look like Jake Suley, Avatar version, not Sam Worthington.

Speaker 98 And that's one minute.

Speaker 126 And don't anyone think it's a compliment?

Speaker 137 No, no.

Speaker 161 That was just sort of an additional fact I wanted to throw on him on there.

Speaker 147 You feel connection.

Speaker 88 You do think so, honey about that i actually can i tell you something when someone was like you look like jake silly look like jake silly i was like okay and then i saw him and i was like not only do i kind of get it but i'll i'll take it yeah it's a gorgeous proportions like i think it was it's like the long nose and like and the big eye eyebrows and like sort of like the like ectomorphic positioning yeah ectomorphic positioning there's ectomorph and there's mesomorphs ectomorph is long and lean like nicole kidman so everyone is either an ectomorph or a mesomorph?

Speaker 43 I think it's plots on a spectrum, perhaps.

Speaker 64 Okay. Yeah.
The morph spectrum.

Speaker 97 I trust him with that. Or an animor.
No, I don't.

Speaker 127 Or an animorph.

Speaker 143 Or an animorphorphorph.

Speaker 86 What's your animorph animal?

Speaker 89 That's a culture. That is absolutely a culture.

Speaker 164 Oh, what would my animorph be?

Speaker 51 I know.

Speaker 151 A bear, maybe, but what is my anomorphic?

Speaker 172 A bear is really good. Is that it?

Speaker 197 No, what were you going to say? Yes.

Speaker 93 I don't know.

Speaker 124 For some reason, I saw you, and this has nothing to do with what you were saying, but I saw you becoming an anteater.

Speaker 97 Taper.

Speaker 118 Yeah, taper. Like,

Speaker 16 for some reason. Yes.

Speaker 109 Okay.

Speaker 86 Oh, those are really nice animals.

Speaker 160 Okay.

Speaker 97 Are they nice?

Speaker 69 An anteater.

Speaker 97 They're eating the ants.

Speaker 97 I'm happy. Yeah, thank God.
Take care of them. I really don't like ants.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 218 It's one of those things we probably should appreciate more because you know they have a function in society.

Speaker 160 What's their function again?

Speaker 59 I don't know.

Speaker 196 There's got to be something with like the soil.

Speaker 86 There has got to be something. I like mosquitoes.

Speaker 157 I like the culture.

Speaker 102 They worship one woman.

Speaker 86 I like that. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 106 There's a queen ant.

Speaker 164 There's a queen ant.

Speaker 172 Do you know how old old ants can get?

Speaker 86 How old?

Speaker 195 The oldest ant is 30 years old.

Speaker 59 What? Yeah.

Speaker 59 Flirty. Really?

Speaker 86 Dirty and thriving.

Speaker 51 Really old. Yeah.

Speaker 156 That is so old.

Speaker 160 That's one of my funnest facts.

Speaker 111 We found out that the alligators we saw can live to 75 or 80.

Speaker 97 Oh, my God.

Speaker 127 And the big one

Speaker 218 named Benjamin that that I was discussing earlier was approximately 60 years old, the same age as Captain Carrey.

Speaker 86 Kelly. Kelly.

Speaker 231 Captain Kerry is on below deck.

Speaker 53 Yes.

Speaker 90 What was I going to say about

Speaker 132 probably something amazing?

Speaker 102 Avatar.

Speaker 97 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 230 I think most of the movies are about them jumping on planes, you know, like, or them like roaring.

Speaker 91 She was a singer of songs.

Speaker 64 What an interesting line.

Speaker 154 I mean, what's happening is I think Avatar 1 was about like, okay, we're seeing the planet. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're getting accustomed to it.

Speaker 181 Avatar 2.

Speaker 174 It's supposed to be like colonialism is bad.

Speaker 215 Yes. Correct.

Speaker 159 Okay.

Speaker 111 I think Avatar 2 was obviously about our great oceans, or rather, Pandora's Great Oceans.

Speaker 84 And then Fire and Ash, I think, is going to have to do with... I don't know, I guess like the skies or something.

Speaker 53 And apparently this is a lot of fire allegories.

Speaker 201 Well, they're doing earth, water, fire.

Speaker 143 Are they going to do air?

Speaker 66 Feels like the logical progression.

Speaker 89 Okay.

Speaker 93 I feel like air has already been in the movies. They've been flying around.

Speaker 16 They've been flying around so much.

Speaker 105 This is, this is my thought.

Speaker 43 And I might be wrong, but to put out movies that are like colonialism is bad.

Speaker 106 I'm like, right, but it's too late.

Speaker 109 You know what I mean?

Speaker 144 It's like, what are we going to do about it? It's still happening.

Speaker 16 What's still happening?

Speaker 64 You're right, totally.

Speaker 140 I'm like, well, so, yeah.

Speaker 169 Have we stopped it?

Speaker 94 But maybe that's not the point.

Speaker 133 Well, it's about responsibility once that is the case.

Speaker 92 By the mindset of

Speaker 94 colonialism.

Speaker 64 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 152 Yeah.

Speaker 136 Respect and responsibility once you've established a reality that is taken from something else it's like you must now honor the fact that like it's you know it's essentially being like yeah reparations also it's like maybe it's too late to have happen it's not too late to try and correct correct give land back yes right

Speaker 68 you will never be one of the people

Speaker 84 That's exactly what the line was. Yeah.

Speaker 86 And then

Speaker 158 that's from Avatar.

Speaker 86 You will never.

Speaker 140 You will never be one of the people.

Speaker 76 Zoe Saladanya.

Speaker 86 Thank you for

Speaker 122 a different movie?

Speaker 86 Explain that.

Speaker 160 I've got something. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 53 Emilia Perez herself.

Speaker 92 This is coming out in December, as we know.

Speaker 66 So this is going to be seasonal? Yes. All right.

Speaker 115 This is Bowen Yangs.

Speaker 34 I always, always open the wrong app when it comes to having to time something.

Speaker 133 Okay. This is Boen Yangs.

Speaker 111 I don't think so, Honey.

Speaker 84 His time starts.

Speaker 85 Now, I don't think so.

Speaker 134 Any pointsetas.

Speaker 105 First of all, let's talk about the spelling.

Speaker 222 One extra I, eye one eye too many

Speaker 122 after

Speaker 159 the t

Speaker 104 after the two t's are the one i'm not gonna look into it all i know is there's an errant eye an errant silent eye okay sure

Speaker 142 you look like a damn weed And for a flower to have to be in a pot that is wrapped in a specific kind of foil that

Speaker 16 is maybe going to be mistaken for the petal of the flower, I go, well, then you're leaning too much on the container and the flower itself is not doing the right kind of work to aesthetically hold the center of this presentation and arrangement.

Speaker 86 Five seconds.

Speaker 43 I don't understand it. Why are they everywhere?

Speaker 104 We've got too many Christmas plants.

Speaker 138 The tree, the fucking mistletoe.

Speaker 104 Don't even get me started on that.

Speaker 85 Five seconds.

Speaker 107 And now I got to figure out this flower that looks like shit.

Speaker 129 Get that out of my sight.

Speaker 263 I don't think so many points out of us.

Speaker 227 That's one minute.

Speaker 204 You know,

Speaker 116 it's the thing about

Speaker 132 it's it's the thing about Christmas that I'm the most like okay

Speaker 86 like

Speaker 86 it feels 80s why do they feel like it's an 80s flower flowers evoke a decade you're so right yeah

Speaker 160 why does it feel 80s you're 80s because it does the container is this like shiny

Speaker 125 like yeah the the dress uh beautiful dresses

Speaker 145 to those to those flowers

Speaker 160 it does yeah it has like a cocaine energy that I'm like.

Speaker 184 Well, you know, when you bend

Speaker 85 the leaf, like white goo comes out.

Speaker 164 Stop.

Speaker 109 Like, come?

Speaker 169 I guess so. You're right.

Speaker 85 I think when I was growing up.

Speaker 200 As a kid in church, I would just go like

Speaker 208 with my nail and it would just.

Speaker 123 And the white goo. That's what you were doing as a kid.

Speaker 160 This is instead of listening about God.

Speaker 226 Well, one time.

Speaker 195 on Christmas, since this is apparently a Christmas episode.

Speaker 144 I am wearing red and green, which is nice. Very drastic, Santa.

Speaker 164 Didn't realize.

Speaker 189 But

Speaker 142 the church I grew up in, everyone would, the lights would go down in the church and we'd pass a flame.

Speaker 152 Everyone would get a candle and you're not safe.

Speaker 200 Pass the flame.

Speaker 162 And at the end, it would be beautiful.

Speaker 152 Everyone's singing Silent Night, a cappella. I love this.

Speaker 171 And

Speaker 49 I was five and holding the flame and looking up at the church and kind of going around.

Speaker 142 And then this woman starts.

Speaker 184 hitting me in the head.

Speaker 206 And I don't know why.

Speaker 175 I'm just getting smacked in the head.

Speaker 171 And people are screaming. And then the lights come on.

Speaker 206 And I had lit my hair on fire.

Speaker 186 Oh!

Speaker 195 And it was just like,

Speaker 142 and I do have this memory.

Speaker 184 The most potent memory from it is the pastor jokingly, I now know, saying, Well, Christmas is canceled.

Speaker 86 And that is humiliating.

Speaker 129 I know you thought me.

Speaker 142 Well, because it stopped Silent Night and it was sort of this talk, like, do we restart? It's like, no, let's just, let's just go home.

Speaker 221 Yeah, a kid almost immolated.

Speaker 160 We have to go. We have to go.

Speaker 16 But why not?

Speaker 102 That's 90s culture is let's fucking embarrass the kid and

Speaker 112 have that be a trauma in her fucking life.

Speaker 189 I do.

Speaker 164 I like really don't like Christmas and I don't usually think of this story as why, but that do you think it has something to do with it?

Speaker 201 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 85 That sounds like a fucking Super Young Stevens song.

Speaker 125 Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 That was the worst Christmas ever.

Speaker 200 That was the worst Christmas ever.

Speaker 89 I love that Christmas album.

Speaker 200 One of the best Christmas songs, maybe the best that I know of.

Speaker 186 Wow.

Speaker 160 Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 159 But

Speaker 91 you've done Christmas songs. You've released some Christmas songs, haven't you?

Speaker 97 Am I making that that up.

Speaker 134 Which one would you release?

Speaker 173 That was the worst Christmas ever.

Speaker 133 That was the one.

Speaker 86 Oh, that would be really, really good.

Speaker 195 I'm doing like a Christmas show with Rufus Wainwright, who I also sang with last night, which was amazing.

Speaker 64 So cool.

Speaker 153 Where was that?

Speaker 173 Wester Hall, part of like the New Yorker Festival.

Speaker 164 Yeah.

Speaker 208 But I was like, can we sing the art teacher together?

Speaker 164 It's just this, I don't know if you know that song, I'll send it to you.

Speaker 192 But he's, you know, a legend.

Speaker 200 He's just like a history lesson within one person.

Speaker 64 Rufus, yeah, holds it all.

Speaker 191 Yeah.

Speaker 93 Can do, can, can do Judy at Carnegie Hall and can also do opera.

Speaker 98 Do opera and then fucking rock with you.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 86 That's rock star.

Speaker 191 Speaking of rocking with you, it's time for your I don't think so, honey, or rock artist.

Speaker 97 Oh my God.

Speaker 69 Grammy winning rock artist.

Speaker 86 Hey. Okay.

Speaker 232 Also, I don't think so, honey,

Speaker 53 superstar.

Speaker 185 We don't know that yet.

Speaker 89 We do. I have faith.

Speaker 116 My heart is racing.

Speaker 181 I can't wait to experience this awe.

Speaker 85 Don't be racing. Sublime.

Speaker 152 Okay, I do need to, you have a screen protector and I couldn't see the timer when you were faced that way.

Speaker 66 Don't worry. Okay.

Speaker 66 Okay.

Speaker 159 This.

Speaker 169 I'm scared.

Speaker 116 Lucy thinks I don't think Zonnie, her time starts now.

Speaker 208 The boy with the dangly earring.

Speaker 136 Is he a villain?

Speaker 185 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 189 And here's why.

Speaker 175 First of all, sometimes you have to wear the costume before it becomes the clothes.

Speaker 165 Sometimes people are the ally at the Pride Parade for years before they figure out why they keep showing up.

Speaker 155 Uh-oh.

Speaker 147 Why are we gatekeeping a gate that all of us had to walk through at one point or other?

Speaker 208 Specifically with the dangly earring.

Speaker 163 Sometimes we have a guy with a dangly earring and then you wait five years, you have a beautiful woman on your hands.

Speaker 127 30 seconds.

Speaker 223 Other situations, the guy takes out the earring, no one was hurt.

Speaker 208 If you don't like that guy, that has to do with that guy's personality.

Speaker 183 Unfortunately, it would be so easy if we actually knew who people were from what they're wearing, but we do have to do the hard work and take the time to find out if someone is actually disingenuous or cool with us.

Speaker 163 And I think that the threat of being made fun of or thought of as disingenuous at the front is intimidating people out of being creative and playful with their presentation, which could lead them down a path to a life that would be more tolerable and fun.

Speaker 59 Oh my God.

Speaker 86 That's, that pierced through all of my callused armor to my heart.

Speaker 121 New episode unlocked, just like on all those themes.

Speaker 116 I have to say,

Speaker 124 when you you started,

Speaker 123 and

Speaker 96 the way that you structured that, I don't think so, honey, was a misdirect.

Speaker 95 Because when you started by saying the boy with the dangly earring, here I am thinking you're going to tear that guy up.

Speaker 201 Because it is easy to do, but I think it's lazy.

Speaker 272 You're right.

Speaker 118 It is easy to do.

Speaker 137 And I was ready to do it. And then I had to assess based on your actual content.

Speaker 149 You cleared the form.

Speaker 102 100%. You did.

Speaker 89 Lucy, that was

Speaker 102 innovative. That was the sublime.

Speaker 164 That was awe oh my god thank you so basically are you are you currently having to be like but i do hate the guy with the dingle earring i don't hate the guy with the dangle earring he sometimes is the guy with the dangle earring well and sometimes

Speaker 160 the guy with the dangle

Speaker 144 earring is hateable sometimes but hate people for who they are you know not what they are give them the dignity of hating them for who they are let me talk let me go up to the dangled and let me speak with them you know what i mean and then judge them based on them showing me what's on their phone be it the the, you know, huge-breasted manifestation of their sexual conquest desirabilities thing or the bombs, you know, something like that.

Speaker 118 But I do agree with you that it's like

Speaker 137 you do have to let people look

Speaker 148 maybe, in, maybe in a way that you think is silly.

Speaker 118 Like people should express themselves with clothes.

Speaker 71 I, I do feel, and music and like art and stuff like that and self-expression.

Speaker 148 I feel like let's not judge.

Speaker 160 Yes.

Speaker 92 I hope I have not judged you too much, too many times in the past for the way you've looked.

Speaker 51 Whoa.

Speaker 116 You don't really read me for the way you look.

Speaker 154 Unless I'm like a mismatched colors because I'm colorblind.

Speaker 64 You don't read me.

Speaker 230 I don't know why I bring this up, but I just, I just hope I've never gate kept an aesthetic.

Speaker 88 I don't think we do that to each other.

Speaker 85 Because this is the thing.

Speaker 102 An aesthetic is the bridge to like the like the person or the

Speaker 101 the idea or like the political notion or whatever it is. You know what I mean?

Speaker 93 It's like if you look the part.

Speaker 139 it's why like, it's why like fascism moves through the like aesthetic of fascism, whatever.

Speaker 43 I won't get into that, but you know what I mean?

Speaker 109 Like that is like, that is like the literal front line.

Speaker 139 And so dangly earring, it's like, well, let the person do a dangly earring and then that might, that will be like the locus, the inflection point for something else.

Speaker 98 The dangly earring is the bridge to something else.

Speaker 86 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 164 Or if it's not, they're at least the type of person that would be willing to walk on the bridge and then walk back to the other side.

Speaker 143 Totally.

Speaker 198 I like people who are open to the idea that they could be different than how they are and then be like, no, I think I'm good.

Speaker 206 I think I'm good. Yeah.

Speaker 188 You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 219 Like one time there was someone in my life who was then not in it anymore.

Speaker 218 And a friend of mine in commiserating about this person was like, and they wore those stupid turquoise earrings.

Speaker 83 Well, we can do that with our friends.

Speaker 121 And I remember afterwards, I was like,

Speaker 148 now I feel a little bad because...

Speaker 154 I think the turquoise earring was kind of fun.

Speaker 218 There's so many things to talk shit about this person, about the way they act and about they are.

Speaker 220 But the turquoise hearing actually made me pity that person because I was like, oh, but that, you know, sometimes people think like, I know who I am and so I'm dressing this way.

Speaker 111 But a lot of people are like, I'm going to try dressing this way because hopefully I get encouragement and then I can be more who I am.

Speaker 111 And perhaps if that was encouraged in a specific type of person, then they wouldn't be horrible.

Speaker 93 This is very thought-provoking, Lucy.

Speaker 142 Thank you for really.

Speaker 186 But then also, like, you can be dunking on nasty people with your friends about what they're wearing.

Speaker 152 But like, like just

Speaker 195 so let's remember yeah some clothes are ugly so

Speaker 144 i do think so honey some clothes some clothes are ugly yeah absolutely

Speaker 95 well that was and i'm now i'm i'm so interested after we end

Speaker 132 because not everyone gets to know everything

Speaker 162 about what your other adult mix no honey are because if they're structured like that i'm so excited to tell you i hope that might be my ick actually you might hear this and be like no no what do you mean so we'll find out yeah they don't get to know i don't i trust you oh thank you and because we've established trust through

Speaker 181 connection connection through a spotify song through a spotify song and a live performance that by the way yes was by far the highlight of that show for us i mean for me too since i mean you did the whole show i only did that one moment so it's my favorite but you showed up for rehearsal the day before

Speaker 174 it happened that meant a lot to us that was just a crazy week for on a lot of levels you did something amazing by the way i i was like oh you asked me to do something i like you i'll do what you have asked and then i showed up and you put on a real like it was really an award show i did not know what i was walking into and it was like so funny way more interesting than most award shows oh thank you give give an award to wow from a grammy winner um okay yeah from an award haver to an award deserver yeah it's very sad thank you you were you were the best and honestly that that really um it was like from inception of that of that idea the of the of the in absentia to then doing it i just remember us being at the end and after you came out and like that being like i felt like we did it because that part went so exactly like it was just like such a highlight for us funny well damn forever's a feeling the archives

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Speaker 133 stream watch the videos get the vinyl get the vinyl

Speaker 51 there is yeah

Speaker 122 it's coming out in december actually oh love that's perfect

Speaker 164 here's something else else: like, I would have done this without promoting something.

Speaker 92 The other you guys would have obviously had you on without you promoting something.

Speaker 85 It was a matter of time.

Speaker 160 Okay, I love that.

Speaker 86 We love you. Yeah,

Speaker 172 we'll get dinner with Katie.

Speaker 122 Yeah, superb.

Speaker 164 If you can stand me after these other Lucy,

Speaker 116 we're already obsessed.

Speaker 97 We don't have to go to Superbai.

Speaker 215 We can go, we can go wherever, but we do have to go to all time.

Speaker 66 Okay, just kidding. We don't have to go to all time.

Speaker 116 We end every episode with a song.

Speaker 141 Oh,

Speaker 59 don't want to close my eyes.

Speaker 59 I don't want to fall asleep.

Speaker 86 Cause I miss you, babe.

Speaker 59 And I don't want to miss a thing.

Speaker 51 Cause even when I dream of you,

Speaker 83 it's the party that you

Speaker 59 never do.

Speaker 59 I still miss you, babe, and I don't want to miss a thing.

Speaker 181 If you want to hear that, listen to all of our songs on Spotify.

Speaker 142 If you had told me that was happening, I would have practiced.

Speaker 83 No, sorry,

Speaker 83 accessible.

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Speaker 5 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 258 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becca Ramos.

Speaker 196 Edited and mixed by Doug Boehm. And our music is by Henry Kabirski.

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