Bring Her Back: An Interview with Danny & Michael Philippou

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Speaker 3 Welcome to Last Podcast and Love. We have a very special episode here.
We have two of one of my newest, truly favorite movie creators. What you guys are doing is fucking out of this world.

Speaker 3 The new movie, Bring Her Back, is coming out. It's now.
It's out now, right? Yes, by the time you hear this. It's out now.
It's now. Bring her back.

Speaker 3 The directors of Talk to Me as well, Danny Philippo and Michael Philippo. Welcome.
Hello.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for having us.

Speaker 3 Yes, live studio audience here. We have two people at the back here.
Yes.

Speaker 3 We, oh, yeah, the Rob is our producer. We got the gals.

Speaker 3 Making sure that you don't say anything too horrible. Our goal is to make you say horrible things.
Yes. We're in a constant battle.

Speaker 3 Every day.

Speaker 3 So before we get started, I just want to say

Speaker 3 I love horror movies. Horror movies are probably my favorite genre of movies.

Speaker 3 I have been terrified to watch Talk to Me, and I haven't watched it. I specifically did not watch this movie because I'm like, this scares the shit out of me.
I want nothing to do with this.

Speaker 3 I watched it last night with my wife, and fuck you.

Speaker 3 My wife had to sit there and see that.

Speaker 3 What is wrong with you? I'm sorry to your wife. What are you doing? I don't know what's wrong with me.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I don't know.
You know, you just, you got to get the darkness out somehow. Yeah.
And then this morning, I woke up 7 a.m.

Speaker 3 bright and early to see bring her back. Perfect breakfast film.

Speaker 3 I've been trying to sell people, honestly, see the matinee. Yeah, yeah.
Like, get in at three o'clock in the goddamn afternoon and just experience it sober. I had to, I was watching this movie.

Speaker 3 I had to pause it halfway through. I'm losing my fucking mind.
All right. I'm going nuts.
I can't deal with this goddamn fucking movie. It's too early in the morning.
All right.

Speaker 3 I i got a beautiful dog i'm like i love you please kiss me all right and then so i'm like all right i pause he's the mouth kisser to the dog i go make oh yes he gives me a vibe yeah you guys love it

Speaker 3 and so i get so i go and i i go make my breakfast and i start like cutting my strawberries and i got scared of the knife in my hand yes because of the movie that you made yes it was like i was like i was scared of myself because of what you thought i thought it would have been breakfast i'm actually just jealous and why haven't you brought your dog in?

Speaker 3 I miss my dog, and I haven't patted a dog in quite a while. So you got to bring your dog next time.
What's your dog's name? My dog. I got a new dog named Harley.
I'm going to kill it.

Speaker 3 She had a 25 hour.

Speaker 3 She's 13. You don't have to wait long.
We actually already got the funeral planned.

Speaker 3 Can I ask? Can I ask? How do you guys, because you guys made like stunt vids, right? Like, you guys were doing, how does it get, like, was it just a natural progression of filmmaking from there?

Speaker 3 Well, it was always, that was always, the YouTube stuff was just practicing to become filmmakers. That was always the goal, always the aim.

Speaker 3 And, you know, speaking of stunts, Michael couldn't be listed as one of the directors at the start of Insurance for Bringer Back because he was in Detroit having death matches. What does that mean?

Speaker 3 It's like an extreme form of professional wrestling where they use like light tubes and barbed wire and real weapons and they cut each other up for real.

Speaker 3 It's like an extreme performance art blood sport. We're doing a documentary on it.
And I was like, how are we in it?

Speaker 3 You look okay. You know,

Speaker 3 they're Australian. Yeah.
So they're like naturally immune to certain types of damage.

Speaker 3 Luckily, we brought a barbed wire back. Yeah, you should have just got

Speaker 3 it.

Speaker 3 Listen, before we prologue any more on any of these films, I need you to eat a light bulb.

Speaker 3 You've got to see it. It's visceral.
It's bloody. It's good.
It's nice.

Speaker 3 What was the, like, so just like, you do that just for the thrill of it, or is it one of those that you just love physical action?

Speaker 3 Both.

Speaker 3 I think we've been obsessed with deathmatch wrestling since little kids. So we used to do it with our friends, unfortunately.
But we had a big one.

Speaker 3 There were parents that would literally not let their kids hang out with us. No way.
Yeah, because we were so... We were delinquents.
We were actual delinquents. You just threatened to kill my dog.

Speaker 3 Yeah, what?

Speaker 3 I was jealous. It was out of envy.
No, dude, it was out of envy. You guys had fun charges, though.
I looked at your Wikipedia pages. Your charges are fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 We've had a few fun charges. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're not. Nothing bad.
Like, really, like, nothing. Just the stuff that honestly just excited me about you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, underwater cars, we got Michael got arrested for so did I which wasn't even my idea

Speaker 3 Shanny had an underwater car made and he didn't want to drive it

Speaker 3 and Michael's terrible at recording excuse for everything Michael is so bad at recording

Speaker 3 people like we would like do a scene and I try to be in the videos I try to be in something and his footage is like out of focus as I punched it in a weird way.

Speaker 3 It's like dude just point it at me and film it. Yes, but you were correct to be scared to get in an underwater car.
Well, no, I got in the underwater car. I was filming in there.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Yes, I was in there.

Speaker 3 You weren't in there. You were in there.
I don't know why there's lies being thrown around

Speaker 3 and then the cops came and found you while you were in the middle of shooting right at the idea no it was like so the video came out and then suddenly like a year later i will got danny got arrested it wasn't a year later it was like a couple of months too anything but getting arrested over making art is one of my favorite things on the face of the planet it was so good but i actually got arrested for pretending to be michael yeah yeah sure

Speaker 3 but then they arrested michael got arrested for the art yeah they said i was like a wanted felon like i had fled the country i I was like, I haven't been hiding or anything.

Speaker 3 And then I put the evidence on YouTube. Yeah, it's on video.

Speaker 3 But it was like a year-long lawsuit. What was the charge? Driving recklessly, driving dangerously, driving without a license, driving without a seatbelt, driving

Speaker 3 a car that's not seatbelt. Are you not American? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's what I said.

Speaker 3 What happened with that? How about littering?

Speaker 3 No, no, not littering. Not littering.

Speaker 3 No, that would have been a bad one. They're pretty easy on littering, actually.

Speaker 3 No, but it was a big thing in the end that I got off scot-free because I wasn't actually driving dangerously or recklessly. No, we actually, it was a stunt performed.
It was a practice car.

Speaker 3 It was a stunt.

Speaker 3 The police said that they were going to have to recreate the underwater car to prove it was dangerous. Oh, yeah, Jesus.
We're going to do your all. Yeah, they're going to do it.
Damn it, yeah.

Speaker 3 We're going to make it for our own. Why don't we go for a race, boys? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's get to movies. Let's get to some movies.
I love books. Books.

Speaker 3 That's my favorite kind of movie. One that I'm directing inside of my own brain.
I can cast it with all of my favorite porn stars.

Speaker 3 That's my favorite.

Speaker 3 But when I watch your movies, the first thing I noticed, which is that one of my favorite attributes, is that they feel extremely lived in.

Speaker 3 Like they feel like, like, talk to me feels like you're watching a story that's already happened before and now it's happening again. Which is also why talk to me, the sequel will also be perfect.

Speaker 3 At some point, whenever that comes out, you better do it.

Speaker 3 yeah yeah danny hey don't at me yep yep and then bring her back is kind of also the same where you're dropped into a world that's already going like can you ask first thing i want to know is when you make that like with the hand and talk to me and with the story in bring her back do you know that entire story before you write the film because it seems like you know what's going on but you leave sections yeah

Speaker 3 that's my i love it so much. I love world building.
I love like building out the Bible and the backstory and the lore and like going into every possible detail. Like, I love ironing that out.

Speaker 3 And then I also love dropping people into the middle of it. And it's like told from the perspective of the characters and the point of view of the people that we're following.
Yes.

Speaker 3 And like, the kids being out of the depth of the hand and talk to me. Like, I love that.
So they're not sitting there researching it, figuring out all the answers.

Speaker 3 But there's obviously a history there. There's something happening.
And the same cell of this.

Speaker 3 There is something that we've built out and we're designing right now that is like the hand of talk to me to the bringer back universe

Speaker 3 And I do know what I generally have you seen the bong the pee the the bowl

Speaker 3 the weed bowl that was made out of the hand oh yes I love that thing Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah,

Speaker 3 and and it's like it's a candle holder mate

Speaker 3 It's a tobacco pipe. That's what we say It's an incentive buddy

Speaker 3 No, but it's the same as when you're writing a character You've got to know the entire backstory of the character You need to know all the moments that led up to this moment, why they're like this, their personality, what are the key moments in their life that made them this way.

Speaker 3 And it's the same with the backstory of anything like on that other side of it. The tapes,

Speaker 3 where did Laura get these tapes? The backstory. Who are these people? Who created them? Why?

Speaker 3 What is the mythos, the entire mythos? You've got to know that stuff. That's important to know.
So even though you never, same with the characters, there's a lot of things you'll never see on screen.

Speaker 3 It's still important to have that so it feels real. I love that thing, like with the shining and like that ending.

Speaker 3 Like if you read the script, you know that Jack Torrens is being he's like a resurrected person from someone that used to live in a hotel, but it's completely cut out of the movie.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and then there's the book that has all this backstory, and you're getting glimpses of this bigger world. And I love that there's this

Speaker 3 bigger stage that these films are playing in. Like, I love that.
Like, Malazan, do you know those books? Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes, you know, like, there's this entire world, and you're like, you're reading it, and you're a bit out of your depth. You're like, wait, what's this? Who's this? That's my favorite.

Speaker 3 That's my favorite. It's like, dude, it's like why I like all the stuff where you're dropped in the center.
Now, your job as the viewer

Speaker 3 is to stay engaged. It's so good.
I would say it's very arrogant of you to compare yourself to The Shining. I did not compare myself to the Shining

Speaker 3 of The Shining. Sort of like Stephen King.

Speaker 3 The two of you together are close to a half a Kubrick. Right?

Speaker 3 That's what I'd say. Maybe a quarter.
Maybe a quarter.

Speaker 3 But yeah, I love that. Because my biggest pet peeve with horror movies is when they overexplain shit.
And you guys really leave it up to us to figure out.

Speaker 3 And it's scarier that way, because my imagination runs wild. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I'm sure you know the answers but i i honestly don't want to know the answer yeah it's sort of like the theorizing or when you come across like a piece of lost media or you look at those old school footage and you're like you don't have the context and you're like what the fuck is this thing like this is terrifying this weird clip or this execution video fake but whatever it is and it's like where are they what language are they speaking right now like what is happening like that stuff just makes for really horrific art.

Speaker 3 I think that you guys are also bringing up, which is the our,

Speaker 3 you know, probably closer to a younger generation but also with my generation of the discovery like our parents had finding weird shit in the woods. Yeah, we had finding weird shit on the internet.

Speaker 3 Yes, and

Speaker 3 we saw a thing in the street, but like we saw mysterious things on the internet and we that was what inspired us.

Speaker 3 And I think what Talk to Me and Bring Her Back are doing is understanding there's the same amount of mystery in the modern world as there was in the old world.

Speaker 3 And I feel like that's what you're bringing back. In fact, I feel like there's more mystery in the modern world.
Yeah, it's exactly because it's more, in a way, it's more accessible, the mystery.

Speaker 3 It's more accessible. You'd think it would be, but it's still things you can't scratch.
It's still like, what did I just see? Is that real? Is that fake?

Speaker 3 That's even scarier because that is, you can't differentiate that line now and you're lost between those things and you're like,

Speaker 3 people can fake this stuff, but also it's real enough that that real stuff also does happen. So it's terrifying.
It's terrifying. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And also you have sally hawkins in bring her back who's legitimately like a patriot missile actor like that is somebody what a fuck that's like driving a fucking bentley i know as a director and we thought there's no

Speaker 3 way that she would respond and she would say yes they're like that i still don't think she'll do it yeah

Speaker 3 it was the most unreal because we we she was the first person that we reached out to and we're thinking there's no fucking way she's gonna say yes she's like the new amanda plumber yeah that's her that's her We said that.

Speaker 3 You're like the new Amanda Plumber.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, she's like, fuck you both. Do you know who I am? I make wet films.

Speaker 3 She really does make quite a bit of wet movies. She does.
Well, she loves Shape of Water. She loved this.
It was the only reason she was drawn to it. No, she was like, she wasn't drawn to it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so, oh, there's water in her hand. Cut me in.

Speaker 3 Can I be moist in the scene?

Speaker 3 She was like, she didn't connect to it on like a genre level because she always reads it from a character's point of view.

Speaker 3 It's just you connected with laura as a character and she was just like going so in depth with laura and like like picking up on the smallest nuances of the script and she was it's the best collaboration she dropped the little pieces of lore in the middle of her extreme acting that you can like but you're like i'm watching it too being like oh she just she's threading the needle of all the the info yeah yeah yeah yeah and especially with that with uh there's like a scene with wendy and she's like okay i can't stop her physically I have to convince her.

Speaker 3 Like, please, listen to me. Listen, we have a bit, we have a history together.
We know each other. Please, listen, listen, listen.
And like, she's so desperate.

Speaker 3 Like, please don't like, let me explain this to you. I know it seems impossible.
It seems psychotic, but I'm telling you, like, a miracle is happening here.

Speaker 3 Wow. And she's, but she's nice in person.
She's beautiful. Well, she is terrifying when she's fully in character.

Speaker 3 Oh, I fucking bet, dude.

Speaker 3 Can I ask this? Okay, again, I'm trying not to bring any real

Speaker 3 distinct spoilers for the film. Because bring her back in the future.

Speaker 3 Well, look, I'm the director, so.

Speaker 3 Can I ask, though.

Speaker 3 Rob brought this up.

Speaker 3 My wife and I both kind of ping this too. Or talk to me and bring her back in the same world.
Maybe.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Jeez, who said that? I don't know who said that. Mysterious.

Speaker 3 Mysterious.

Speaker 3 They seem to be like they're kind of, because they both revolve around, we're both like, it's like a mysterious object. It has an amazing, it has some storied past between the hand and the tape.

Speaker 3 Well, there's this thing where it's like you're writing stuff and you're always like putting things together. And like there was like

Speaker 3 parts in the script writing when characters in Bringerback were in Talk to Me, characters that were in Talk to Me were in Bringer Back because they're all written at the same time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And like you find that, you find your footing and you find the structure and you find the bones.

Speaker 3 Like the more that you go over a script, the more you're iron over it, you're like, oh, okay, this is that. Like this makes sense.
Like, sometimes when you're, it's like scribbles.

Speaker 3 It's just like rough drawings everywhere when you're first starting off with something, and then eventually it like it, you know, you color it in, and the full picture is there.

Speaker 3 Every movie is going to be set in the same neighborhood. Yeah,

Speaker 3 someone's going to be driving along, they don't look over, Laura's kidnapping Oliver.

Speaker 3 My hand's going to have a hitchhike and thumb.

Speaker 3 We've got to get out of these goddamn neighborhoods. This book's horrible.

Speaker 3 Do you guys mind the Australian accent? No, I love it.

Speaker 3 No, I love it. Yeah, I love it.
Does it feel uncinematic at all to people? What are you talking about? Do you really think that? No, no, no. People in Australia.
No, I do as well.

Speaker 3 If you guys say,

Speaker 3 what's that over there? In an American accent, it sounds scary, but in Australian, oh, what's that over there, my yeah? Well, that scares me more because you fuckers are scared as shit.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, we're afraid that it must be scary.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's true. You know, it's so funny because, like, you even say that.

Speaker 3 Like, no, honestly, I think one of the most incredible things you've done with also both is make believable friend groups and believable families and looks like they all like hang out and they all like belong together.

Speaker 3 I felt like I knew them. I didn't even notice the accent, to be honest with you.
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 And like in Australia, like in some of the stuff that we'd worked on, just like as crew members, they're like, you have to, like, Australians that I'm going to stand that.

Speaker 3 Like, like, really, really pronunciate it. So if you're like, oh, what's that, that over there? They're like, oh, no, that's mumbly.
Oh, what's that over there?

Speaker 3 And like, it becomes occur Australian or tour Australian, where it feels really false. And then Australians have this cultural cringe about it where they're like, oh, that feels weird.

Speaker 3 And then Americans are like, that sounds weird. And then it's just, there was something about it, like, especially when we went into making Talk to Me.

Speaker 3 Like, the producers are the people that we originally gave the script to were like, can we film it somewhere else? Like, what about with American accents?

Speaker 3 That could be more accessible. What about in America? You do it in America.
That's very interesting.

Speaker 3 I actually love the

Speaker 3 hometown sort of

Speaker 3 authenticity.

Speaker 3 I like that. I love it as well.
And I love that there's certain words or phrases that are from Australia that audience members would be like, what's that mean? Well, I think that's universal.

Speaker 3 But you know they mean it. You know, you, the actors know what they're saying.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
And I think it's something that's, because we had one chance.

Speaker 3 It was like, Talk to Me was it. It was the only movie we're probably going to make because it probably wouldn't work or whatever.
So we, it, to us, it felt right to do it authentically.

Speaker 3 And Australian is authentic. That's where we knew.
That's the people we know and how we grew up. So it felt right doing that.

Speaker 3 So the fact that it resonated, you know, kind of internationally, and I think it does because it doesn't matter who the people are, where they're from. It's a human to human.
Exactly.

Speaker 3 So we all know those people. It doesn't matter.
Yeah, where you're from. Yeah.
Well, it's also the kids are using, especially in Talk to Me, they're using it to like, like, it's drugs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's what's awesome. It's a fun game.
Yes, I would do the hand if the hand was available to me. I'd be fucking on the hand.
You would, wouldn't you? Yeah. Oh, don't damn it.

Speaker 3 I'll fucking do the hand. No, I'm not doing the hand.
Get on the damn hand. If anything, I'll fight the people with the hand.
No, you have to follow the rules. Yeah.

Speaker 3 As long as you follow the rules, you can use the hand. No, you can't.
Yes, you can. The rules are bullshit.
Boys, relax.

Speaker 3 This is our whole gig. Don't make us relax.
We'll fall immediately asleep.

Speaker 3 Oh, man. But seriously, though, man,

Speaker 3 talk to me. I'm watching this fucking movie and I'm looking at all these kids and they're going crazy.
And I'm just like, stop touching the fucking hand. Just stop it with the hand.

Speaker 3 You guys are going too crazy. And it's just like, it's, I felt the same way when I was at a party and like someone kid had stolen like a nitrous tank from a hospital.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And like everyone was doing the balloons. And when I saw like two kids almost die, I felt like I was back in that room when I was watching that movie.

Speaker 3 Dude, that was like one of the inspiration points. Was like our like these neighbors that we watched grow up.
He was like having a bad reaction to this drug that he was taking.

Speaker 3 He was on the floor convulsing and everyone he was with was just filming him and laughing at him. And then I saw that footage and I was like god damn that's fucking barbaric

Speaker 3 I was the one filming it

Speaker 3 that's why you're a director

Speaker 3 you're able to distance from the emotional effect

Speaker 3 you know but yeah even like when you're writing those characters and like uh same as like with talk to me and bring it back like draw from real experiences like draw from things that make you uncomfortable like for for example

Speaker 3 There's these things, Greek Orthodox funerals in Australia. They probably do this everywhere.
I mean, you know when they've got an open open casket? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 And then in Greek Orthodox funerals, you have to kiss the head of the corpse. See, that's something I did not know.
I did not know about. That's a real thing.

Speaker 3 You kiss their heads, and you don't have to do it. Like, that's not something that you have to do.

Speaker 3 And, like, so if people freak out about it and they don't go there, and you can see it's really bothering them to see even like a body or a casket, they don't have to go up to it.

Speaker 3 But Laura is trained in this. Like, she's a child therapist.
She's a psychologist. She knows this is bothering him.
And she's like, I'm going to pull him up there.

Speaker 3 Because she's trying to break his ass. She's trying to break his ass.
Make him unreliable. Get him out of the house.
Yeah. And yeah, I don't, I don't want to spoil anything.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, that's the problem. It's so hard to not do because I want to.
Yeah, yeah. And that's what's so terrifying.
And it's like, it's tapping into that, like, that was freaky to me as a kid.

Speaker 3 I remember when my grandfather died, there was like this woman that I didn't really like that much. And she was like not even really part of the family.
And she like came up and put her arm around me.

Speaker 3 And like, I was like, I'm trying to grieve here. And then she was like pulling me.
She's like, you're okay. He's okay, everyone.

Speaker 3 It was this weird thing where I was like, Oh, gosh, like, it felt really

Speaker 3 she told you to kiss your grandfather? No, that didn't happen.

Speaker 3 Lower.

Speaker 3 Lower, kiss him lower. It felt like cold marble.
Yes,

Speaker 3 I kissed a dead head once, and it is upsetting. I wish I didn't.

Speaker 3 Where were you? Yeah, what did you

Speaker 3 say? You know, and I was saying,

Speaker 3 don't worry.

Speaker 3 It's been a long time. We can joke about it.
The other corpses that he's played with have mostly been extremely worn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because

Speaker 3 He's got them fresh. I feel like you two guys have probably killed someone.
I know.

Speaker 3 Hey, hey, hey, hey, not in this country. You said, hey, you can't say, hey, cut that out.
Cut that out.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Can I see your acting face of strangling someone?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on.
All right, come on, yeah. Now, this is me taking it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, see? You know.

Speaker 3 Wait, can you do it again? I love you. I love you.
But you know what?

Speaker 3 I love you. You're fine.
You're a fine. some

Speaker 3 wrap this up in the future.

Speaker 3 We know how to talk to big directors.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's what we are. But big directors.

Speaker 3 We're actually quite physically small.

Speaker 3 Yes. Were you surprised? A lot of people say that.
They see us a person, they go, oh, I think we sound quite small. Yeah, yeah, but you're wiry fuckers.
I ain't trying to fight you. You know, yeah.

Speaker 3 Did you ever get in fight as brothers? Like, did you fight dudes as brothers? Oh, like, together? Yeah, we did. We used to fight people in the neighborhood.
Yeah. We were pretty cool.

Speaker 3 It's just, it's called having a go, right? Yeah, you don't give it a crack. And that was just how like kids got to meet it.
Like, you just fight each other.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a lot of the kids that we fought, we became friends with. Yeah.
Of course. You got to fight them.
And then you're friends with them. I was surrounded mostly by girls.

Speaker 3 Did you fight them? No, we played little games. What?

Speaker 3 My sister. I'm disturbed.

Speaker 3 My sister. My sister used to fight us.
And she would.

Speaker 3 She has to have the last hit. Oh, I bet.
Oh, yeah. If she'll chase you with a fucking frying pan until she cracks you over the head.
She will not stop. There's no stopping her.

Speaker 3 Does she like the movies? Does she come and do it? She loves them. She's in the end.
In the end of the...

Speaker 3 Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't.

Speaker 3 At the end of the film.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, immediately.

Speaker 3 Total joke.

Speaker 3 At the end of the film, there's someone that gets out of a car. That is my sister.
Oh, wow. That's okay.

Speaker 3 Our cousin was in the back seat, too. And then she starts getting out and we cut it.

Speaker 3 She's like, So bad. She's like, I can't wait to be in the movie.
And I was like, Yeah, it was the same. It was the same in Torxin.
She was in it, and the scene got cut feel so bad. Yeah, I cut it.

Speaker 3 No, it's not Alana. But you've got to perform better, or we're not going to use it.
Honestly, it's about being in the right scene. Yes, correct.
Or in the right position. Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 I remember I was in Wolf of Wall Street and one of the

Speaker 3 things.

Speaker 3 Gather out.

Speaker 3 Gather around. Let me tell you a story.

Speaker 3 Listen, there's many. I'm almost almost nine years older than you.

Speaker 3 But I always remember because there was a scene where it was one of the plane orgies, and the AD told everybody, all the ladies on set, that if you're going to be on set today, you might be nude, right?

Speaker 3 And so there was ladies next to Leo, and he said to one of them, just so you know, you're going to be naked in this scene. So you're going to take off your clothes, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 And she was like, actually, I have a contract for a previous contract where I'm not supposed to get naked in the scene. He's like, that's totally fine.

Speaker 3 We're just going to have to move you out because they've been talking about they want.

Speaker 3 And she was like, no, I'll do it, and then she just took off all of her clothes because she knew she'd be in, she'd make

Speaker 3 you in that scene, yes, I was in all the orgies. What, you're in the film, yeah.
Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street? I've seen Wolf of Wall Street. He's the fat, ugly one.
Oh my gosh,

Speaker 3 yeah, yeah,

Speaker 3 I love that film. I'm so interested.
Hey, I love it. That was the old time.
That was the only, that was the closest I ever got to seeing that. What? So, you are extras on different.

Speaker 3 How many films have you been on? I was an actor in that. You were an actor.

Speaker 3 You stacked six or seven legitimate films. I used to be good.

Speaker 3 I used to be very passionate.

Speaker 3 Do you get rusty? People get rusty.

Speaker 3 You know what's funny is that I think that

Speaker 3 I've got fat again. I was kidding.
I just got skinny. I got skinny and then I got fat again.
And what? Isn't that you lost roles when you got skinny? Oh, yes. Really?

Speaker 3 Very much so. Oh, no.
I was, I will tell you the truth. This is a full-on exposure.
It was between me and Patrick, what's his name? Swayze? Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 Me and him always were against each other.

Speaker 3 Always. No, it was.
For Paul Hauser. Yeah, it was for Itanya.
And then they asked me if I could gain 100 pounds. Oh, my God.
And then they said, no.

Speaker 3 I was like, no. Yeah, no, I couldn't get it.
I was too skinny. I got too skinny, and then I lost all this roll.
100 pounds?

Speaker 3 It's a lot. No, they wanted me to be

Speaker 3 able to gain 100 pounds. Oh,

Speaker 3 believe me. I just gained five pounds sitting here.
I'm a coach. Oh.
Yeah, big fat piece of shit. Yeah,

Speaker 3 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Horrible, he looks so familiar.
Wait, go to his IMDb. What else? What have I seen him in? Yeah, I did this.
It was in a show called Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell.

Speaker 3 This is amazing for me. Oh, he's a bad thing.
We're going gonna cut all this

Speaker 3 now i'm just talking with them i want to i want to do a podcast of him yeah yeah look at that guy i do it every week it's not that great

Speaker 3 can i ask all right so look so now let's get on

Speaker 3 i love tremor movies i collected those as a kid we know loyd kaufman if you want to go work for free he'll gladly take your stuff i think you have to pay him to work for him.

Speaker 3 Our first, like, six jobs on sets were completely free. I would have loved a Kaufman set.

Speaker 3 Damn, the Troma movies are awesome. You know, it's funny because, like, we did get in touch with that crew.
And it is. Have you found that yet? Have you met...

Speaker 3 How do I put this? Have you met a hero that's disappointed you? Do you know what's weird? Like, the heroes that I've met have all been pretty heroic. Great.
Nice. Yeah.
Sam Ramy. Oh, he was so nice.

Speaker 3 You know what's awesome? It's so cool in LA because all these people are local. So we had a movie night just the the other night with Fede Alvarez.
Oh,

Speaker 3 yeah.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 Zach Kreggers, we watched Weapons. Fuck yeah.
It was awesome. That was so, I'm like, this is so Hollywood right now.

Speaker 3 Oh my god. And you're like exchanging stories and stuff.
It's incredible. Yeah.
That's so awesome. Fede Alvarez is funny.
Oh, he's cool, man. That new alien movie was fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 I really enjoyed it. I can't wait to see what else this guy does.
Now, when you're in this situation, are you guys as fun as you are now, or are you like actually playing it cool?

Speaker 3 I feel a little bit of both. We're in the middle there because we're at his house.
We don't know him too well, but you came out with like guns blazing.

Speaker 3 So I i was like oh yeah we can publish that that's the goal yeah here we're

Speaker 3 we're not as elevated

Speaker 3 what any any room that we're in i remember we were at like a this a24 party and it was just all all these directors were there real directors real directors yeah and i felt so out of place in that room i was like i do not deserve to be in here well you do now man that's everything i see

Speaker 3 is incredible yeah dude you're two for two yeah do you think so yeah i know so i'll tell you what you're two for two we were talking about the shining earlier used to be the scariest movie I ever saw.

Speaker 3 These two movies have taken it over in one day and the scariest fucking films I've heard. Well, you also scarred him.
This is the type of shit that scars.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was, I'm like mad at you and also impressed.

Speaker 3 So, can I ask? Because you were saying, like, characters appear in and out of your films as you're writing them.

Speaker 3 I know that, like, you know, obviously, there's probably not a lot you could say about you were developing a Street Fighter movie. Was M.
Bison ever in Talk to Me? Uh, M. Bison did.

Speaker 3 We weren't as in love with Bison as we were Akuma. Okay.
Oh, yeah. We love Akuma.
Do you know? We were in the street farter rabbit hole for a while. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 I was traveling around Thailand, going to different Muay Thai camps,

Speaker 3 doing research, looking for the real Sagat who still trains people. Whoa! In Thailand.

Speaker 3 That level with a giant Buddha statue, that's a real place. No, that's an actual place in Thailand.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so I was going to these places and I was like speaking to these trainers that apparently he'd been with, and he's they're like, no, he's over here now.

Speaker 3 So I was traveling around, it was awesome, it was so much fun. Did you ever find him? Yeah, I found him.
Well, he's so tall, it's probably easy. He's shorter in real life, yeah, he's shorter than me,

Speaker 3 he's shorter than me in real life. How about Blanca? How was he in real life?

Speaker 3 Exactly the same,

Speaker 3 you know. What they say, never meet your heroes, exactly,

Speaker 3 exactly as I wanted him to be.

Speaker 3 It was hard to turn down Street Fighter, it was hard to walk. It was just, it was, it was, it was hard, it was just this, what are you singing? I don't know what that was.

Speaker 3 It's flues, Yeah, I think you're. Because you're in America.
I'm in America, so I started singing. No, it was, it was just, it was just scheduling.
It was between Bring Her Back and Street Fighter.

Speaker 3 We love Street Fighter. Bring it back.
It's more personal. It felt more right.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 You were correct. Well, luckily, Street Fighter.
I didn't see our Street Fighter movie. But you know what, though? Legendary Pictures is amazing.

Speaker 3 And I think they're going to do a good job with Street Fighter.

Speaker 3 Something like that's going to come back around. Also, something like that.
No, because they're making it still. I remember

Speaker 3 I read an article that, like, it's being postponed indefinitely. And I was was like, yeah.
And then I text him, like, what's going on with Street Fighter? They're like, that's a false story.

Speaker 3 It's still happening. Like, definitely.

Speaker 3 As far as video games go, you know what? No one gives a shit about Street Fighter 1. Street Fighter 2 is the real game.
I'm going to have to say, that's the real game. That's the best Street Fighter.

Speaker 3 Wait, hold on, no, no. He's saying Street Fighter 1.
Oh, yeah, but he's saying Street Fighter 2 is the shit. Oh, I see what he's saying.
Make Street Fighter 2.

Speaker 3 Don't make Street Fighter 1 because it's bound for failure.

Speaker 3 It's bound for failure. Yeah, we'll sign up with Street Fighter 2.
Oh, my God, the set pieces we're making. It would have been brilliant.
But anyway, bring her back. Bring her back to Willie Hack.

Speaker 3 Are you talking about the interview?

Speaker 3 But truly, I think that you made the utterly correct choice because the more you guys are betting on yourself, the more you're making an extremely good movie. I think

Speaker 3 there's time for you guys to do some IP.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And what's exciting, as opposed to taking a big IP, is making your own IP.
Amen. And it's like, oh, what if in 20 years they want to remake remake Talk to Me? That'll be pretty cool.

Speaker 3 They won't, yeah. Yeah, no.
No, they'll be on Talk to Me 10 by then. Yeah, Talk to Me X.
Dude, do Talk to Me X in Space. Dude,

Speaker 3 I've written out 40 sequel ideas. I've got to show you the list.
You will love it. You will actually love it.
That is all I want to see.

Speaker 3 The more, have it show up at fucking like, you know, it should be go back in time. You know, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 Michael, keep talking while I get this up. You're going to love this.

Speaker 3 I need to get my sequel ideas. Talk to me.
They build it with pyramids. Stop.

Speaker 3 Well, honestly we're doing this alien festival in a couple weeks contact in the desert talk to me bring that hand to the alien festival

Speaker 3 that's this alien festival contact in the desert it's a bunch of people

Speaker 3 abducted and dude i was on time magazine as like the main one of the main photos for the uh storming area 51. no way yeah that was me he cut the alien cheeks i was there oh my gosh

Speaker 3 you stormed area 51 did you have the bullet holes to prove

Speaker 3 i was like i'm like if everyone runs i'm running as well and there were swat cars everywhere there was people with guns. And then I was like, I can't wait to get there.

Speaker 3 We pulled up, like 50,000 people RSVP'd. There was like 50 people there.
Yeah. And everyone say this.

Speaker 3 I mean, I think the military were like, if you do cross the line, I'm going to shoot. They're like, we literally will shoot you.
Yeah, yeah. You were like, yeah, we're not fucking around.

Speaker 3 It's Area 51. And yeah, everyone was just about.
It's not the Capitol building, for Christ's sake.

Speaker 3 It looked scary for those people. It was terrifying.
And then people getting arrested. But no, it was a good time.
Let me get my sequel ideas up quickly. Michael, change the subject.
Change it.

Speaker 3 Talk to them. Honestly, did you Naruto

Speaker 3 towards Aries? I wasn't there. I Naruto Ryan.
I Naruto Ran. Here's the picture.
Does someone edit things?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the picture.

Speaker 3 In fact, there's two pictures. Here's the two pictures.
I went in two different outfits. I was all about it.
This is amazing. Wow.

Speaker 3 You know what?

Speaker 3 It's a big deal, guys. How come you didn't, by the way? Because, to be honest, I'm a pussy.

Speaker 3 I don't want to get arrested. Let's just stay in the desert real quick.
You know what? Honestly,

Speaker 3 I must be most. I'm sitting in water right now.

Speaker 3 same as sally hawkins i literally am sitting within water right now just to sit you know what's cool about sally hawkins no matter how cold it was no matter how bad the stump was they're like oh we're gonna pad you up because you're about to hit the wall she's like was laura wearing pads

Speaker 3 i i i don't i wouldn't i don't think laura's wearing pads there's a scene where she jumps in the water at the beginning of the movie was the first day and they're trying to put a wetsuit on her wetsuits she's like so when was laura wearing

Speaker 3 i don't want to wear

Speaker 3 this did laura put on this sweatsuit before she jumped in or did she see her daughter and jump jump in? And it was like, oh,

Speaker 3 she's the fucking best. I hope y'all are going to be pushing for her to get an Oscar for this because it was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 It's probably too genre to get an Oscar. Fuck that.
Not after last year. Not after the substance.
My problem is that.

Speaker 3 It changed everything. It's all for you.
If you let the Oscars infect horror movies, it will never be the same. If horror movies get too big for their britches, it's never going to be the same.

Speaker 3 It's never going to be a good thing. It's going to grab britches because

Speaker 3 step back down. Humble yourself.
Yeah, humble yourself. No, no, we're going to win all the Academy Awards.

Speaker 3 No, no. It's sort of like, I like that the crossover is happening.
We are in such a boom right now for horror. It's like, it's back to the 80s again.
Oh, heaven. Yeah.
Yeah. Heaven.

Speaker 3 If that substance went that far. It's honestly awesome.
Subody horror. Those Ferratu sinners.
Now you fuckers. It's crazy what's happening right now.
Well, I wouldn't put us in that category. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I said, yeah, you're a bad. You put those three.
Put us.

Speaker 3 There are probably a couple down there. But no, dude, I mean, bring her back.
I'm not just sucking her. It's a forever mystery.
Yeah, yeah. Like, it's a great movie.

Speaker 3 I put it in close to, like, because I, right now, my truly favorite modern horror film is Hereditary, and it is right on its tails. It's like doing the same,

Speaker 3 it gave me the same feeling, which is literally what Eddie was saying. I wanted to shut the movie off and run away.
Oh, my God. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 I literally, at one point today, I stood up in the middle of my living room, woke up my wife, who was still asleep, and I'm like, it's just too much.

Speaker 3 It's too much.

Speaker 3 He doesn't even want it. If you've seen the movie, you know what that sound is.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 3 Did I tell you? Here's a story. There was a certain sound that we couldn't replicate.

Speaker 3 The sound was out of us doing it. So I got a knife and I did it.
No. And on the microphone, right up close, and that's what you hear.
It's like, okay, this is going to be hard to watch.

Speaker 3 You can close your eyes, but do it so you have to try and close your ears as well. It's going to be too, too confronting.
See, that's a real director, though.

Speaker 3 You stood and you're like, I'm not getting it enough.

Speaker 3 And also, yeah, so like part of me is like, oh, I think this could, like, maybe like

Speaker 3 non-genre fans might like it. And then the other part of me is like, because of scenes like that, I'm like, you have to be a hardened horror fan to enjoy it.
But I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 Do you think you'll stay doing genre forever?

Speaker 3 I think, well, we're doing the documentary next. Right.
Yeah. So there's that.
And then I think that we're writing a few different things. We are.
But I think the next thing.

Speaker 3 Like, I still want to do two more horror films. I know for sure.
I've got two that I've got mapped out of my head, me and my co-writer. And, like, I need to do them.

Speaker 3 People are going to be coming to see them if you make them. What's the documentary? The Death Match Wrestling.
Oh,

Speaker 3 that's also going to do extremely well because I think that people are really interested in that and wanting to see this whole world.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, I mean, well, I just don't know because that's real blood. I don't know how many people can actually watch it.
It's a real underground form of wrestling, but it's exciting.

Speaker 3 I find it exciting. How does people, when people get into death wrestling, like honestly, like, is it just real?

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that they're not quote-unquote real wrestlers, but it's like trained wrestlers also doing it as well? Or is it just psychopaths? Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 A big thing of the documentary is why. What draws people to do it? Why do they do it? But they are professional wrestlers.
They are professional wrestlers. They are trained.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but it's not for money. It's not, it's

Speaker 3 something else.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 they don't make much money from it. And they're literally killing themselves.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's passion. God, there's a few different reasons.
Yeah, that's how that's what I bring to my

Speaker 3 eating game.

Speaker 3 It's a passion.

Speaker 3 Wait, hold on. I'm so sorry.
I just want to. When is this alien festival thing? I really want to go.
So, are you a guy? Are you a true believer? Dude, I love alien shit. Please.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 If you're ever in town for this, it's at the end of May each year. It's called Contact in the Desert.
Damn, it's the end of May. Damn, it'll leave tomorrow.
But it's the number.

Speaker 3 If you're ever here, I'm certain that I don't know what Australia has in terms of UFO coverage. You guys actually have one of the most mysterious.
There's a great deal of UFO lore

Speaker 3 in Australia. There's nothing else to do but look at the sky.
But there's also one that you guys don't know. Which one? It's called Param.

Speaker 3 Please. Please, he's elucidate.
Param.

Speaker 3 They experiment on aliens there. Oh, no, is that a base? It's a base.

Speaker 3 And there's a town near it. And when the lights go red, no one could get out of their house.
Fuck yes. Yes, I've been there.
And it's horrific. Really? No, no, it's pretty chill.

Speaker 3 But like, apparently, like, there's theory there that there's aliens there. I've not seen any such aliens.
Where is that located? In South Australia. South Australia.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because we went through South Australia. We drove to Snowtown.
Lovely place. See, that's crazy.
The guys have been in Adelaide.

Speaker 3 Look at all the Americans that have been in South Africa. He went to Snowtown.
He went straight to Snowtown. We were in Adelaide for 28 hours, and we were like, you know what, let's drive to Snowtown.

Speaker 3 Imagine what happened there.

Speaker 3 What were you doing? You were doing a show there? Yeah, we were doing a show. We had a tour in Australia and New Zealand last year.
Oh, my God. It's so weird.

Speaker 3 There's like concerts don't come to Adelaide because no one goes to things. Dude,

Speaker 3 the theater we were in was awesome. Damn, go, Adelaide, what, darling? We love you, Adelaide.
Adelaide Rippin'. I love Adelaide was one of our best shows in the fucking entire little tour.

Speaker 3 You see, that's awesome. I love, see, it's changing then.
Like, the pendulum's shifting. Maybe we are becoming a bit more cultured and arty.
It was funny.

Speaker 3 It was like we there were literally three dudes in the front row that were like the three stooges. They were beating each other up the whole show and like throwing beers at each other.

Speaker 3 It was very Australian. But it was very funny.
It was like they did, they weren't even that disruptive.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? Like they were kind of just amongst themselves. But we went went to Snowtown and they literally looked at us because they know why we're there.

Speaker 3 Like, why are these three fat Americans here? And they're all like, What brings you to town? What brings you to town? And we're all like, just driving

Speaker 3 food.

Speaker 3 I heard a disturbing story because you know how the barrels got discovered because the smell of

Speaker 3 it. And sludge.
Yeah, so when it did get found out and it was on the news and everything,

Speaker 3 people were like, like driving there and then trying to sniff under the bank vault to smell the

Speaker 3 ball.

Speaker 3 I just want to smell it. I just want to smell it.
Good, quick all whip fair.

Speaker 3 Nothing I love better than a true crime story that's scratch and sniff.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 I forgot to offer you guys. Would you like some cheese, crackers, knife? I'd love some cheese.

Speaker 3 Yeah, would you like your favorite snack, which is a knife? I'm loving this.

Speaker 3 Don't even watch that. Just throw that in the bed.

Speaker 3 Can you assign that, please?

Speaker 3 Man, you are two fucking lyricists, aren't you? Yeah, we're a little, we're a little, Michael. Are you okay? Powell, sorry.

Speaker 3 Well, he does death nuts wrestling, and that hurt him.

Speaker 3 Just take it easy, man. Take it easy.

Speaker 3 You know what I had in the. I was going to bring it, but I thought against it.
It's in the car. What is it? I had a fake knife and fake blood, and I was going to start showing you his shit.

Speaker 3 You had a bloodline of that carpet. He did a real.

Speaker 3 You should probably. Yeah, it's a shining carpet.
Hello.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a shining carpet. We're very on brand here.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
We're very, very on brand here. The plants are fake.
Yeah. We got a lot of couchment.

Speaker 3 That's from, oh, that is from a wonderful place we hear, which called Lowe's.

Speaker 3 What a wonderful place here. Oh, alien.
Yeah. A lot of shit.

Speaker 3 All right, so let you know, if you ever want to come to, like, Contact in the Desert is awesome, but it's like, we're all true believers.

Speaker 3 It's the first place that I've ever been to where I went to this place. It's at this resort near Palm Springs, Contact in the Desert.

Speaker 3 And we, I kind of thought we'd all be getting drunk and being in the pool.

Speaker 3 And it's like, all of these nerds in the lobby talking about UFOs, they are, they make me like dressed up by like galactic fighters and stuff. And I am out of place.

Speaker 3 I must like, I thought I was a serious one. I'm used to like literally alienating people, making people upset.
I was like, y'all are alienating me. Like,

Speaker 3 I was like, you guys should be in the pool. This is the time

Speaker 3 for you to fuck. Like, this is the time for you all to flirt and fuck each other.
And this, he's like, you shouldn't be here. You're all talking shop.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 That is good. Do you know what? We were writing an alien movie.
Oh, yeah, you better. No, no, but wait, but wait, hold on, I was just going to say,

Speaker 3 in the defense to the galactic warriors, you needed someone to defend you. And if the aliens were coming, they were ready.
While you were fucking in the pool,

Speaker 3 they're protecting you. I'll fucking aliens.
I would fucking who knows what disease you'd contract. But no, listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 3 We were writing it, writing an alien movie, but then Jordan Peel released the trailer for Nope.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and I was like, no, all right. Nope was good as hell.

Speaker 3 But Nope, he kind of made it into sort of like a creature feature. It was Jaws.
Yeah, like more than an alien movie. I still think you guys got an alien movie.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 There's no way you guys don't have an alien movie. Oh, we were writing an alien movie.
Oh, it's, and there's this one. Do you know what's a great alien movie? Fire in the Sky.
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 How great is that as an alien? And Phenomenon, the documentary Phenomenon. I love how it's wrapped everything up and it's...

Speaker 3 Travis Walton spoke at the festival last year and then at night he's playing guitar by the fire. Oh, God of Kevin.

Speaker 3 in the sky is there like flirting with like he's like hanging out. Oh, he's like a rock star there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's wicked. I've got to tell you a story about that off camera.
Okay, great.

Speaker 3 It's the best story you'll ever hear. I love it.

Speaker 3 Alien vibes. Alien story vibes.

Speaker 3 I really think that you're because, you know, it's very good. Cut that out because they're going to feel like they're leaving out.
We didn't mean to leave you out. No, we love to leave them out.

Speaker 3 We love to leave them out. This is one of those things that if you talk about, you could get into trouble.
You've already given away like five spoilers for your movie that's not even out yet.

Speaker 3 Don't even worry about it. Do you know all this stuff?

Speaker 3 But I was researching about how the United States had nuclear weapons bases in Australia pointed at North Korea.

Speaker 3 And when we decommissioned all those bases, then all of this UFOs, like, this is all in the last like three years.

Speaker 3 There's like a massive influx of Australian UFO stories that were hidden for a long time because they were all now told by guys that are decommissioned officers from those old bases. Here's my thing.

Speaker 3 Okay. Aliens are real.
Sure. Bring her back to the cinemas very soon.
Don't forget that, guys. It's out now.
Yeah, bring her back. You've got to get back.

Speaker 3 You guys have to check that out. Bring her back.
Just so we remember. But yes.
Okay.

Speaker 3 You know how we've got drones and we're flying them around? Yeah. And you know how we can like observe planets from all this miles away? Yes.
You know, we are like light years away. We can observe.

Speaker 3 If they're that

Speaker 3 sophisticated and they're that ahead of us and their technology is stuff that we couldn't imagine. How are we capturing them on camera? Why are they floating around down here? They can observe.

Speaker 3 No, I've never. How are we even knowing?

Speaker 3 How's all the footage? Looks like it was on like a Nokia 30.

Speaker 3 Even when it isn't.

Speaker 3 Where's the 4K? Even when it isn't over at planets,

Speaker 3 where's the good footage of the aliens? But what if we are barely acknowledged by them? What if they're, it's half the phenomena could be interdimensional?

Speaker 3 So, what if when we see something that looks like an amorphous floating, like kind of QB type thing, That is our translation in this dimension of a craft that is literally going on a grocery store run in another dimension that might look like one of those things from like Starfleet.

Speaker 3 They're not even in it. Or there's dumb aliens.
Like tourist aliens. There has to be.
There's dumb tourist aliens. And they crashed the UFO.
And I thought, oh, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 3 Are you talking about this? Because if it is fired, it's the BA.

Speaker 3 Got it, Dylan Craig! Stop crashing and fucking on panel!

Speaker 3 on us! Just go outside of the atmosphere. Take a look at this.
I got the keys to Dad's Curve.

Speaker 3 We're going for Nick. Come on, bring me aliens.

Speaker 3 You know, like, that's the stuff that's fun. Yeah, but going back to what you said, it's hard to get a picture of that stuff because you're so in shock when you see it.

Speaker 3 Like, right now, going back to my dying dog, all right? I got a 17-year-old dog that has seizures, okay? And every time she has a seizure, I'm supposed to get a video of it. Be careful with the knife.

Speaker 3 I'm supposed to get a video of it for the vet. But every time I'm like worried about the seizure, by the the time I get the video out, she's done season.
Why are you talking about it?

Speaker 3 The same thing is for the aliens. Yeah, the aliens are so in shock.
Yeah, him filming his elderly dog seizing is definitely the same as intergalactic travelers.

Speaker 3 No, I see it. You could be in that much shock, you know, that you're like.
I don't know. If I saw the UFO, I would get that.
But you're a director.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. All right, three, just give us three talk-to-me sequel concepts that you were going to do before we go.
Yeah, before we go, wait, quickly, what happened was

Speaker 3 my phone isn't working in terms of, is there a Wi-Fi here? No. No.
We're not allowed. Yes, it's right there.
Oh, right there. Michael, do you want to? Did you have some talk-to-me ideas?

Speaker 3 It's not going to work unless I read them out. Because they're written out.
Michael, ask him another question before.

Speaker 3 I'll pitch you one. All right.
You ready? I love it. Go.
All right. M.
Bison. Okay.

Speaker 3 You've already got that one. That one's written down.
All right. Katie Alvarez.

Speaker 3 Dude. You write it as you, as directors, super meta.
Oh, yeah, like in my hands. Yeah,

Speaker 3 you're new. But that's like number 11.
Yeah, that's where we really get desperate.

Speaker 3 It's going to come. It's going to come.
It's going to come. It's going to come.
I can't wait. It's going to come.

Speaker 3 Don't make him come. Please don't make him come.
All right.

Speaker 3 Talk to me. Yep.
Oh, okay. Already done.
I've went to already that works. Written.
Talk to me again. Yep.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yes.
Yes. Talk for me.
These are titles. These aren't.
No, no, these aren't. Yes.
No, no, no, no. These are 8-20s.
I already see it.

Speaker 3 These are. Talk to me five more times.
Wow. Oh, no.
High five. Oh, yes.
High five. Yes.
Yes. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Why are you still talking to me? Whoa, number six. That's the retcon.
Yep. Talk to me in Tokyo.
Yep, Tokyo Drift. I was also thinking of one, Look Who's Talking to Me Now.
Yes. Oh, yes, I love that.

Speaker 3 That's the lyrics.

Speaker 3 Again, all these are just titles, right? No, no, no, these are movies. These are are movies.
I've written these lots for these. Talk to me, Hand Takes Manhattan.
Oh,

Speaker 3 yes. Oh, it's got to be in the 80s club scene.
Yes. Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 You can get a producer credit. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 It gets a long pinky nail and it starts doing like it does Coke for people and shit

Speaker 3 now. We're getting silly at it.
No, no, no, no, I'm getting good.

Speaker 3 These are good. Talk to me, Triple H's.
Porno and Space. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Everyone's expecting space. Don't give them what they expect.
No, full penetration.

Speaker 3 Talk 12.

Speaker 3 No, that one didn't hit. That one.
That movie's not as popular. That one didn't hit as much.

Speaker 3 Unless it's in a heist, and it's like Ocean's 12, and then you have George Clooney having to steal the hand from a casino vault. Yeah, see, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yes,

Speaker 3 talk to me.

Speaker 3 That's like an AI version with Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 Talk to me.

Speaker 3 You guys want to see what this looks like? Oh my God, because of the glove! Yes! Oh,

Speaker 3 see, he's getting it. Thank you.
These are smart. Torque Tomi, embalmed foot version.
Oh,

Speaker 3 that's disgusting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That would honestly make... Why is it if it's a foot, I'd vomit if I saw the film.

Speaker 3 Did you have to suck on the top toe or whatever?

Speaker 3 Plenty of toe sucking.

Speaker 3 Did you vomit? No. Well, no, but not if it's...

Speaker 3 Toe sucking was actually kind of peaceful.

Speaker 3 Oh, you liked that team.

Speaker 3 He mouth kisses the dog. He sucks on his wife's toes, and he's a huge fan of your film.

Speaker 3 And he just

Speaker 3 lights up.

Speaker 3 He is. These are the best movies I've ever seen.
You're marketing it towards him. How about, oh, the porno one should be cocked to me.

Speaker 3 Oh, cocktomy. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 There was a talk-to-be porno.

Speaker 3 There was a talk-to-me porno. Oh, of course.
Seriously? Yeah, yeah. I said that to Sophie.
And I was like, wasn't it appropriate? But then she laughed. I was like, thank you.

Speaker 3 Dude, that is a high level of praise. I know.
Yeah. And they were possession porn.
It was really. Was it like fingering someone and then like she saw a ghost? I didn't watch it that intensely.

Speaker 3 Come to me. You filmed it, Danny.
I did not. That's not Danny.

Speaker 3 It's only harassment if you're in the film. I did not harass.
I was not part of that film. But yeah,

Speaker 3 they were possessed of having sex. Come inside me.
No, that's enough titles about that.

Speaker 3 Stop telling them to come inside you.

Speaker 3 They're trying to leave town.

Speaker 3 What would you say?

Speaker 3 What stuck with you more since you watched them both today? Talk to me or bring her back? Bring her back. Bring her back.
Why, why, and why?

Speaker 3 It's definitely like half, I was like a half hour in. I'm like, oh, this isn't as bad.
I can handle this. And then it's just so unforgivingly brutal.
It really is.

Speaker 3 And it's just like, it like made me visibly upset. I had to like, I literally turned it on.
I don't think I could have seen it in the movie theater.

Speaker 3 I'm going to now because I've seen it already.

Speaker 3 And so now I feel like I can see it in the movie theater because I know what's going to to happen I'm just going to watch the audience get pissed and then from the level of discomfort that I haven't experienced have you seen the coffee table I have not yet the coffee table's fucked up

Speaker 3 the scene in the movie but that's no I'm talking about a movie called the coffee table oh check it out that is Fucked up But you know what I like is when it doesn't feel like it's just exploitation that is it like that's what that's why that's why it messed me up

Speaker 3 because it was real and it was based in emotions and like you know as people as someone who's experienced loss you're a fragile person and you make these horrible decisions.

Speaker 3 That's why Sally Hawkins' character is fucking unbelievable in that movie because you could tell, we were talking about this before you got here, that she used to be a really good person. Yeah, she

Speaker 3 was like,

Speaker 3 yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 So what's it like a character that you uncomfortably empathize with? And I think that's what's great about Sally is that she brought it,

Speaker 3 she brought a human element to her. It wasn't, she didn't play it like a horror villain.
She played it as a broken human being. And she's struggling with what she's doing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she's struggling with what she really is and then then but well again i'm cut now i'm just spoiling it yeah

Speaker 3 you guys were honestly the ending is amazing you have to see the film um is there like what would you say is like a series of references for you guys like in your films like what are your main do you know like go-to films in your head uh always in treatment which is a tv show yeah because of how realistic those characters feel and how real the world feels and something like throwing water on somebody feels like a car crash yeah so i love that film i love let the right one in yes yes i think that is like a really incredible also kind of wet yeah yeah there's a well it's snowy snowy you're right

Speaker 3 there's a

Speaker 3 pool

Speaker 3 and then obviously obviously the holy grail exorcist yeah yeah everyone talks about elevated horror i'm like they've been elevating horror since the 70s have you seen the exorcist have you seen rosemary's baby yeah yeah like uh those mouse hunt is a good one yeah mark is obsessed with fucking mouse hunt have you seen mouse hunt mouse hunt it actually is a good film is that the one with not with french

Speaker 3 they're hunting mice have you seen Stuart Little?

Speaker 3 I haven't seen Stuart Little, but I know the film. Indian in the Cover.
Have you seen that?

Speaker 3 Another thing I would love to see is the mouse hunt to Bring Her Back pipeline.

Speaker 3 Which is just insane. It's connected more than you think.

Speaker 3 They were very practical. Like those, that mouse hunt, they did things so practically.
It is a little bit bring it back-ish.

Speaker 3 You know who was? You know who's funny?

Speaker 3 There's an actor in that that I used to love that I haven't seen in forever is Lee Evans. Oh, is he in there?

Speaker 3 Yeah, where the hell is lee evans now well he's a mouse hunt he's working on the sequel no i don't think i should do mouse hunt too you should put him in one of your movies yeah i should do mouse hunt too i should put lee events to one of you movies

Speaker 3 hey listen no no come here this is what i this is what my parents always do be like have you ever tried being in a film like a big movie yeah yeah yeah oh y'all you have you ever thought about making seinfeld that's what my parents

Speaker 3 you said didn't you see me i started with leaving out of the caprio i'm naked at the back of that plane whoa did you show him that Your parents? I had to go see it with my mother, yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was horrible. I saw it with my mother, too, actually.
She was fine with it. She was happy that she was getting attention.
Oh, she was getting attention.

Speaker 3 Well, just in terms of just being there, my mom just kind of believed that she was on display. Oh, right.
Yeah, she was just happy. She was proud.

Speaker 3 We invited my mom to come watch Bring her back in America, but she wouldn't come. Why? Yeah.
She doesn't like flying. I understand.
It's a fucking horrible flying. It's a terrible thing.

Speaker 3 She's long, and she has anxiety about it. And 824, we're trying to do everything.
Like, oh, what if if we can bring a friend? What if we can up the class? And then my mom still said, No, no, it's it.

Speaker 3 But, you know, she will see it, though. You guys, and she'll be damn proud.
Yeah, she'll be so proud of her. She'll be damn proud of what she made because she then get the film because she made you.

Speaker 3 She did. She and Laura was based on her.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 3 That's so sweet. So she's a sweet mother.
Wow.

Speaker 3 That was one scene that was real.

Speaker 3 One scene, which one? That punch. Oh, yeah.
You did a couple of takes for real. Whoa.
I'm joking, I'm joking, Jack. Oh, I believed you.

Speaker 3 You're a stuntman. Yeah, I believe anything you tell me.

Speaker 3 That's my job.

Speaker 3 Sally insisted she had to hit the blind girl.

Speaker 3 She insisted. Was that girl able to do all that stuff with her eye?

Speaker 3 She's naturally, she's actually is, she's got vision impairment. Okay.
Yeah, she's great. She's so good.
She nailed it. Yeah, she'd never acted before.
Really? Yeah, it was her first time acting for

Speaker 3 her. All of the acting in both of the films was incredible.
I was so impressed, especially because I didn't recognize anybody, obviously, because it's Australian films.

Speaker 3 And I was so impressed by the acting and everyone. Obviously, I'm sure you guys had a lot to do with that, but they all scared the shit out of me.
And I leave the hell out of all of them.

Speaker 3 It's about finding the right people.

Speaker 3 Especially in the audition process. Yeah, it's in the auditions.
And everyone's so committed and down. So, yeah, we're blown away by everyone.
And especially with young actors, everything.

Speaker 3 You just let them know that there's no such thing as a bad take. And you can change dialogue if you want to.
Don't be embarrassed about anything. You're not letting anyone down.

Speaker 3 It's like building up a trust and letting them know that it's okay to fail. Like, there's no wrong or right take.
It's just about finding it.

Speaker 3 I also think that you are setting a good benchmark for responsible auteurs making stuff. Because again, you named two autors like William Friedkin, Roman Polanski, both famously not great guys.

Speaker 3 What was on with William Friedkin? Well, just William Friedkin was just a crazy guy. He was crazy.
He was crazy.

Speaker 3 But you guys were,

Speaker 3 that's just wonderful to see.

Speaker 3 You're setting a great new tone and you're not only setting a great, friendly tone, but you're also making truly horrible and horrendous movies and that's the fucking best shit in the world i can't wait to make another movie yeah dude i just want to be on set already it's getting there man don't worry they'll force you they're gonna make

Speaker 3 uh so check out bring her back please one of the i'm gonna say it's probably the best horror movie of the year so far already so far yeah so far yeah i mean we saw sinners it's like sinners obviously it's like sinners in this are like obviously they're gonna be you know you and ryan coogler grapton fine it's a big year we might have to fight you might have to fight him physically kick the shit out of you you.

Speaker 3 He might survive.

Speaker 3 He will kick the fuck out of me.

Speaker 3 I would not survive that. And he's way more talented than anyone else.

Speaker 3 He's clearly impossible avenues.

Speaker 3 So, Danny, Michael, Philippo, thank you for lowering yourself.

Speaker 3 We enjoyed being here. Oh, go have fun in New York.
Promote the shit out of this thing, man. Thank you, sir.
Have fun with the alien thing.

Speaker 3 We will. We'll fare well.
The effects. I'm gone.

Speaker 3 Guys, thank you so fucking much, man.

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