Episode 616: The Montauk Project Part II - Livin' in the Future

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Speaker 12 You know, some people, they fancy a man from Morocco.

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Speaker 12 But me,

Speaker 12 I'll take a little boy from Montauk.

Speaker 12 Cause that's good enough

Speaker 12 for me.

Speaker 12 Welcome to the last podcast on the left, ladies and gentlemen. Little boy from Montauk.
Sing the song. It's a bunch of little boys.
You all know the song. I'll take a little boy from Montauk.

Speaker 12 My name's Marcus Barks. I'm here with the crooning Henry Zabrowski, channeling the spirit of old Dino, the old rat pack.
When I'm done with one, I throw them away

Speaker 12 and I go and scoop up another little boy from Montauk and have my good old Long Island way.

Speaker 12 And Ed Larson, hello, Ed. How are you doing? I'm sorry I don't have a Montauk Boy song for you.
It's fine. Do you want to try one?

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 12 I was a man from Montauk. See, no, no.

Speaker 12 I don't

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Speaker 12 a big old Montcock.

Speaker 12 I tell you.

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There once was a man from Montauk who said he had a very large Montcock.

Speaker 12 There we go.

Speaker 12 He went to the base

Speaker 12 of ace.

Speaker 12 And now he's all over. Living in space.
Yeah, the cock. I'll take a little boy from Montauk.

Speaker 12 We're here. We're here for the conclusion.
The Montauk Project.

Speaker 12 So when we last left the grand epic, that is the Montauk Project, electrical engineer Preston Nichols, ostensibly the most interesting person in history, if you believe his stories, Preston had just helped with the construction of a psychic amplification device called the Montauk Chair.

Speaker 12 Built using reverse-engineered alien technology, the Montauk chair was used in its infancy to manipulate the emotions of various kids kidnapped from around Long Island by the Regellion Gray aliens for use and experience.

Speaker 12 Those are the Montauk boys. Yes.
And they would be experimented upon by being bombarded with radio waves, UHF waves, and microwaves.

Speaker 12 It's always important to reheat your boy before getting around messing with him.

Speaker 12 The Montauk chair, also known as the Crazy Boy.

Speaker 12 Oh, funny enough. Oh, I bet.
Funny enough. Funny enough.
Thank you. That is my whole whole thing.

Speaker 12 But as it went with many experiments in the Montauk project, the scientists working on the Montauk chair continually failed upward, and they began to realize that the Montauk chair could be used for far more incredible purpose than just torturing kidnapped boys.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because I could torture a bunch of kidnapped boys in a regular chair. It's super easy.
You get a hose, you give them pictures of their mother and tell them she's fucking dead. It's actually fun.

Speaker 12 Using the aforementioned Sage Radar Array, which is attuned to broadcast on the frequency that accesses human consciousness, the Montauk Project scientists figured out that if they could use the Montauk chair to break into the mind, they could also use it to broadcast the thoughts and feelings of the chair's user out into the world.

Speaker 12 Problem was, though, couldn't just use any old Montauk boy for such an incredible task.

Speaker 12 To truly unlock the potential of the Montauk chair, the Montauk Project needed a powerful psychic, someone whose abilities went far beyond that of your average Long Island boy.

Speaker 12 Well, the psychic they found, who eventually became one of the other Montauk Project whistleblowers, right alongside scientist Preston Nichols, he was also the man who supposedly helped unlock the time travel possibilities of the Montauk chair.

Speaker 12 This incredibly unique creature was named Duncan Cameron. Yes, I've watched several long talks of Al Bilik, Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron talking.
And you know what I have now discovered?

Speaker 12 You know what I've realized who Duncan Cameron is to all of them? Who? He's their French Stewart.

Speaker 12 He is a man that doesn't know that he is.

Speaker 12 You know how goofy neighbors nowadays, they'd all be diagnosed with various syndromes? Yes. He's one of those.
Gotcha. You know what? I don't get all the hate for French Stewart.

Speaker 12 I thought he was delightful. This is wonderful.
This is just a neutral comparison. Do people have hate for French Stewart? No.
Really? Yes.

Speaker 12 He's great. Yeah.
Very kind.

Speaker 12 Have an outdated understanding of the wacky best friend, and they don't understand that that used to be

Speaker 12 super important part of all comedy. And French Stewart was great at that, but also that was the only thing he could do.
This is a bazinga-based economy. That is what he was opinioning on.

Speaker 12 I like the guy from the Drew Carrey show.

Speaker 12 We all do. Yeah.
Yeah. He's got Ryan Styles.
No, no, no. He was the normal one, the idiot.

Speaker 12 We're lost here now. We're absolutely fine.
This is the most confused that we've even been in the episode we're about to try to figure out. Who doesn't know what body swapping is to do?

Speaker 12 Adults turning into babies. We can't do this here.

Speaker 12 Now, Duncan Cameron's story is one of the most convoluted that I've heard in all my years of doing this show. And that's saying something.

Speaker 12 Before Duncan even took a seat in the Montauk chair, his journey involved body swapping, parallel lives, government experiments, and an unhealthy amount of time travel. What is a healthy amount? Once.

Speaker 12 I think if you do it once and you stay in that time, then it's done. Seems just a trip.
Seems never is the best way. It's kind of like heroin.
You can't just do it once.

Speaker 12 But like the Montauk project itself. I feel like we're going to get emails.
It's like, I know of all the things that we cover, I feel like a lot of people are like, I did it one time.

Speaker 12 So you shouldn't. We smoked opium twice.
You shouldn't do it. Well, you did it twice.
But it smoked it, but it wasn't like, I didn't know it was heroin. I thought it was a different type of weed.

Speaker 12 So you shouldn't do heroin or opium once. You're right.
Yeah. But I did, and I'm awesome.
But you smoked it twice. I smoked it like

Speaker 12 30 times. Wow.

Speaker 12 Handful. A handful.
Well, more. 30 is a handful.
Well, let's not do that. Oh, my God.

Speaker 12 Let's not do it.

Speaker 12 But like the Mom Talk project itself, Duncan Cameron's involvement in this story begins with the invisible battleship/slash interdimensional time-traveling snafu that we talked about in the first episode, the Philadelphia Experiment.

Speaker 12 Now, to place you in the correct time frame, because time frames are extremely important in Duncan Cameron's story, the Philadelphia Experiment occurred in the year 1943, which placed Duncan's birth date somewhere in the 1910s.

Speaker 12 Although that, like many things in Duncan's story, is vague. Duncan Cameron also likes to dress like a small-town choreographer.

Speaker 12 He dresses the most turtlenecks I've ever seen in Long Island, and he wears a beret.

Speaker 12 He is, like I said, a very unique character. He really is.
I think in the future, we're going to see a lot of turtlenecks because so many people are getting neck tattoos.

Speaker 12 Yes, and they're getting upset. And they're getting a little loosey-goosey with these neck tattoos.
And I think we're going to see an influx in turtlenecks, so invest now.

Speaker 12 Hey, or totally opposite, neck removal removal surgery. Whoa! Shit in the shoulder.

Speaker 12 That could be. Boulder head could be the new sign of wealth.

Speaker 12 Now, Duncan was not the only member of his family involved in the Philadelphia experiment or the Montauk project. But Duncan did not begin his career in the world of high strangeness as a psychic.

Speaker 12 Psychic, of course, is the role that he played in the Montauk Project. Duncan Cameron actually began in the world of science with his brother, Ed Cameron.

Speaker 12 Ed was also supposedly born in the early 20th century. Ed was also apparently the brains of the family, having supposedly earned his undergrad degree at Princeton and a Ph.D.
from Harvard.

Speaker 12 But while he was at Princeton in the early 1930s, Duncan Cameron's brother, Ed Cameron, he met Dr.

Speaker 12 John von Neumann, who you may remember from the last episode as the mathematician who headed up the antecedents to the Montauk project, Projects Rainbow and Phoenix.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that fucking dumbass mathematician who doesn't fucking do stuff that matters because math is stupid. He's the one respectable person in this whole school.
The person I hate the most.

Speaker 12 As a fun pop culture side note, I did forget to mention last episode that the wheelchair-bound Dr. John von Neumann was partly the inspiration for the character of Dr.
Strangelove.

Speaker 12 That actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Because he was one of those weird, shady characters that was doing a bunch of weird government science. Well, he was Hungarian.
He wasn't German.

Speaker 12 He wasn't a former Nazi, but his entire vibe was very Dr. Strangelove.
It's like he wanted to be one. You know what I mean? You can't say, he didn't want to be one.

Speaker 12 And so, why did he put Vaughn in his name? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Without being a professional skier. I feel that he was like, it's not that he wanted to be one.

Speaker 12 He was one of those that, like, liked the jackets.

Speaker 12 That if he could have gotten a hold of. He was the Ralph Lorenz family? Yes, if he could have gotten the jackets and the cool.
Hugo Boss. Excuse me, Hugo Boss.
It's all the same. Yeah.
No, it's not.

Speaker 12 Now, after Ed Cameron earned his Ph.D.

Speaker 12 from Harvard in 1939, he was supposedly recruited by the Navy along with his brother Duncan, although the reasons behind Duncan Cameron's recruitment are, again, very vague.

Speaker 12 It's because wherever he goes, I go. I'm his shadow.
And you follow me and I follow you, my sweet, sweet, smart, smart brother.

Speaker 12 I'm the dramatic one.

Speaker 12 But before long, Dr.

Speaker 12 Von Neumann recruited both Ed and Duncan Cameron into Project Rainbow, which meant that the Cameron brothers were soon on assignment working in the bowels of the USS Eldridge as a part of the Philadelphia experiment.

Speaker 12 So we're 1943 right now. Okay.
Working deep inside the ship, the Cameron brothers were assigned to the control room.

Speaker 12 This is where the Tesla coils that created the electromagnetic fields that were supposed to make the USS Eldridge's radar invisible were kept. But as we know, the experiment went terribly awry.

Speaker 12 Because Nikola Tesla purposely changed the shape of the coils so that they'd go the wrong way.

Speaker 12 Well, and that's the other thing, too, is that Nikola Tesla was also dead for about eight months when the Philadelphia experiment.

Speaker 12 Not according to my research.

Speaker 12 Time travel.

Speaker 12 He was doubled. He was doubled.
Eight months? Yeah, that's it. That's all you need.
All right.

Speaker 12 I don't know why there's a, like, I think it has to be like 16 years.

Speaker 12 You can technically travel time travel two weeks. October.

Speaker 12 It is cold in October.

Speaker 12 Now, because the Camerons were down in the bowels behind all those layers of steel and iron, they were supposedly protected from the horrible side effects that occurred when the USS Eldridge jumped through time and space.

Speaker 12 Side effects like finding your body fused to the ship's hull or going insane from being exposed to the energies of another universe.

Speaker 12 But as we said on the first episode, the Philadelphia experiment didn't end even after the disasters of the initial test, because after all, they hadn't reached their actual goal of radar invisibility.

Speaker 12 So when the second test was conducted to give it another shot, Duncan and Ed Cameron were once again on board. We just figured we were there for the first trip.

Speaker 12 We might as well be there for the second. Is that right, brother?

Speaker 12 Yeah, it's not like we'll get fused to the ship. Oh, but hopefully, brother, maybe we can be fused.
Penis to butt. And finally, I can forever be inside of you.

Speaker 12 I mean, if we're not fused together, we could do it over and over again. No, that makes it gay.

Speaker 12 But if it's done by science, it's an experiment. upcoming

Speaker 12 yes I will agree that if there's friction back and forth then it is gay but if it is just in there then it's fine thank you mr. von Neumann I mean Dr.

Speaker 12 Van Neumann because you didn't go to nine years of Neumann school to be mr. van Neumann teach me how to soak my brother I'll fuck you inside your belly

Speaker 12 supposedly on this second test everything was going just fine for the first five minutes but when the ship vanished from sight once again, the Cameron brothers could tell that something wasn't right going off how the other crew members were being affected by the electromagnetic energies.

Speaker 12 I'm fucking shit. Come if I'm fucking.
Oh, fuck. I'm coming out of my fucking penny, but

Speaker 12 my poop is coming. I'm coming shit.

Speaker 12 Very good.

Speaker 12 Is there a problem? I talked to Ryan Kugler this week.

Speaker 12 Did you tell him that you come with shit?

Speaker 12 In an attempt to reverse the damage, the Cameron brothers tried shutting down the generators and the transmitters, but the effects weren't slowing down.

Speaker 12 Faced with seemingly no other choice, the Cameron brothers finally decided to abandon ship to save themselves. Come, brother, jump onto my lap.

Speaker 12 I'm already there. Let me go.
Grab onto my back pockets. I told you, don't call me cum brother in public.

Speaker 12 All right, shit, brother.

Speaker 12 This montaught chair is lumpy.

Speaker 12 Let's just move forward. Let's move on.
No reason.

Speaker 12 But when the Cameron brothers jumped over the side of the ship in the middle of the whole experiment, they fell not into the icy waters of the Atlantic, but through a hyperspace tunnel in time that had been opened up.

Speaker 12 They blacked out and awoke to find themselves in hospital beds recovering from radiation burns.

Speaker 12 Now, at first, they believed they were still in 1943, but they very quickly noticed that their rooms had relatively large color televisions, which were not commercially available in 1943.

Speaker 12 Pretty soon, after the standard what year is it freak out, Duncan and Ed were told that they had accidentally traveled to the far-flung year of 2137.

Speaker 12 Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. I think part of what I have issue with is we still just got TVs, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 12 We still just got TVs at SAT. Yeah.
Well, in hospitals. And hospitals.
Not run by robots.

Speaker 12 This whole thing's just so funny. Just like them all showing up at the hospital and then being like, yeah, you took a bit of a time travel trip right here, but we're going to have to do you.

Speaker 12 Unfortunately, we're going to have to do your space colonoscopy because you've actually passed the age for it. We're going to have to do it.

Speaker 12 According to what Ed and Duncan Cameron learned, the United States had been utterly changed by rising sea levels by the year 2137.

Speaker 12 2137, and California in particular had been almost entirely swallowed by the sea. The Cameron brothers also had no idea of how they could return to the year 1943.

Speaker 12 But after four weeks of recovery, Ed and Duncan were wandering the hospital grounds when Ed suddenly disappeared.

Speaker 12 He had no idea how or why, but he soon found himself even further in the future when he landed in the year 2749

Speaker 12 and there's still TV

Speaker 12 what the fuck

Speaker 12 well Ed decided he might as well make the most of it so he made a life in the year 2749 as a tour guide in I assume a museum of some sort where he likely told his personal experiences of mid-20th century America throughout his two years living in the 28th century oh my god you're so fucking cute can you explain to me how refrigerators work?

Speaker 12 I only know chairs.

Speaker 12 Oh my god, your ignorance is so fucking hot. He's so from the year 1943.
I'm in a fucking, my fake two pussies are starting to kiss. Is this an Aeron chair?

Speaker 12 That's a chair, a wooden chair. Excuse me, I have to put on my pleasure butthole.
All right, well, make sure that you get it on the chair.

Speaker 12 It's a screw-up.

Speaker 12 That's a bed. I don't know anything about that.

Speaker 12 Now, according to Ed, the America of 2749 was a society of floating cities built with anti-gravity technology. I guess because all the water everywhere.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 And civilization was run by computers called Wingmakers. Good fake name.
Yeah, it is a great fake name.

Speaker 12 From my scant understanding, based off what Henry told me during a Zoom call with our researchers yesterday, it seems like it was these computers that sent Ed home.

Speaker 12 I think this takes place in the world where the Roko's Bastillisk thought exercise is happening, where if there are supercomputers that run our future, they have then always existed.

Speaker 12 And if they do have power of time travel, then they can reach back and affect time in a way that makes sure and ensures that they develop and that they come around. And this is what they did.

Speaker 12 All of the unknown moves are being made by the absolutely inscrutable minds of the so-called wing makers.

Speaker 12 And the first ones they approached, of course, going back in about the year 1971, was Paul McCartney.

Speaker 12 And that was where the first wings were ever.

Speaker 12 I was a wing maker for a long time. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Hooters. Beat up.
Yeah, B-dubs and Hooters. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 Not the same, though. No, no, no.
No, would you put the men that were in that kitchen with you in charge of the universe? I mean, not in charge of the universe, but I'd let them take out the trash.

Speaker 12 Just don't talk to the ladies.

Speaker 12 Here you go, Ed. Just make it to the trash can and back.

Speaker 12 Supposedly, Ed Cameron was able to stop off in 2137 to pick up Duncan right at the moment that he disappeared. Brother!

Speaker 12 But the brothers were not able to travel all the way back to 1943.

Speaker 12 Instead, Ed and Duncan landed at the base at Montauk Point in 1983 at a time when the Montauk project had already been up and going for decades.

Speaker 12 See, according to Preston Nichols, the Earth has natural 20-year time rhythms that act as anchor years for time travel. The anchor years for Duncan Cameron were 1943, 1963, and 1983.

Speaker 12 So it was only logical that Duncan and Ed would land in the nearest anchor year when they attempted to travel back to their origin point. If it's every 20 years, how do they end up in 2137?

Speaker 12 Because that one was different. That one.

Speaker 12 Thank you. Seriously, that is seriously the answer.

Speaker 12 Seriously, the answer is because that one was different. That one was different, and there is, it's good to know.

Speaker 12 Preston Nichols believes in this. This is really all hinging on a lot of specific ideas in science and physics, I guess, which is the idea that time is a force.

Speaker 12 So part of what they say is, according to Camerons, according to Cameron and Preston Nichols, that they, when you, when cum touches egg, you are born, you are, a time IP, a time-space IP address is created for you alone.

Speaker 12 which is why you could travel back and forth across time without affecting the main timeline because because it's just your specific time space timeline that you are carrying with you.

Speaker 12 But some of the problems with the experimenting of the Montauk project can knock you off of your timeline and that's when you start floating places. Yeah.

Speaker 12 I almost got that. Yeah.
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Speaker 12 Now, once Duncan and Ed arrived at Montauk Point in the year 1983, they were met by Dr.

Speaker 12 John von Neumann, who had apparently faked his death from radiation exposure due to his work on the Manhattan Project in 1957, and was still working on the Montauk project at the ripe old age of 80.

Speaker 12 Now, we're going to get into how all the time travel stuff unfolded at the Montauk Project later. But for the purposes of telling the story of Ed and Duncan Cameron first,

Speaker 12 let's just accept that time travel had had already been going on at the Montauk Project for a while by the time Ed and Duncan landed there in 1983. Okay.
Dr.

Speaker 12 Von Neumann, of course, was very much involved in the time travel stuff. And as such, the good doctor told the Cameron brothers that he'd been waiting for them to return from their travels in time.

Speaker 12 But they still needed to go back to 1943 to turn off the generators so they could finally end the experiment on the USS Eldridge, which had been occurring this entire time. The entire time.

Speaker 12 Time travel means that time technically is both real and not real because you can go back and forth. All the things are actually happening at once.
Can I ask a time travel question? Of course.

Speaker 12 So while you're traveling through time, do you still age at the normal rate? Yes. Okay.
So like if I go back in time, I'm still 43. Yes.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 12 And then if you stay there for a long time, but time travel then forward can super age you after the fact. But even though it's not aging me at all,

Speaker 12 yeah, because it's still just. Your time catches up to you.
And these guys went to 2700 big time. Okay.
Super long. And it didn't age them.
Not yet. Okay.
We'll see.

Speaker 12 See, it's all about after the fact.

Speaker 12 Cool.

Speaker 12 Well, after getting some proper

Speaker 12 yeah, your humoring

Speaker 12 button is like really high. Like you got your humoring dial all the way up.
I'm here to learn.

Speaker 12 I'm really proud of you.

Speaker 12 So after getting some proper time travel training from Dr. John von Neumann.
The key is you need to overlap your feet so the time water doesn't smash your balls.

Speaker 12 Make sure to hold your hands across your chest and make sure to keep your hands and feet inside of the time tube at all times.

Speaker 12 At all times. Including when you're time traveling.

Speaker 12 The Cameron brothers traveled back to 1943 and turned off the generators on the USS Eldridge by smashing the transmitters and cutting any cables they could find. So remember, they time traveled.

Speaker 12 The moment this happened, they time traveled to first it was like 2137, then it was 2700. Then it was back to 1983.
Then they had to go back to the back to 2137 and then back to 1983. 1983.

Speaker 12 Again, I'm paying attention. Yes.
And then back to the moment in which they first moved.

Speaker 12 So they literally went through the time tunnel and then came back right behind where they were into a time tunnel onto the USS Eldritch to stop the whole thing. Yeah.
And then they did it.

Speaker 12 They destroyed everything and everything was just back to normal. Now, I suppose Ed Cameron had his fill of time time travel because he stayed in 1943 after the mission was completed.

Speaker 12 But Duncan Cameron returned to the Montauk project in 1983. Although it was suggested by author Peter Moon that Duncan had been programmed to return by evil Montauk Project scientists.

Speaker 12 And how you knew?

Speaker 12 His accent changed.

Speaker 12 I'm sorry, Ed. I've got to go back to the future.
That's where I'm needed.

Speaker 12 I'll miss you, brother.

Speaker 12 But here, of course, is where things start to get weird. Oh!

Speaker 12 See, when Duncan returned at the year 1983, he found that he had been severed from the time stream and had therefore begun aging an entire year with every hour that passed.

Speaker 12 As a result, he soon found himself dying from the effects of extreme aging.

Speaker 12 Yeah, it's like Betelgeuse. Yeah,

Speaker 12 this reminds me a lot of Betelgeuse. Yeah.
So, to save Duncan's life, the scientists at Montauk supposedly used a time portal to contact Duncan Cameron's father in the year 1951.

Speaker 12 They then convinced Duncan's father to have another son that very year, as it was extremely important that he impregnate a woman before the year was out. Quick, assault the woman.

Speaker 12 Oh, boy, oh, boy. I hope I have enough soup after I assaulted that woman this morning.

Speaker 12 Plan, you see, was to have Duncan's father birth a son in 1951.

Speaker 12 Because that way, the boy would be 12 years old in 1963, which, if you'll remember, was one of Duncan's 20-year cycle time travel anchor years. Exactly.

Speaker 12 And so Duncan's father followed the directive and got his wife pregnant in 1951.

Speaker 12 I'm fucking coming shit. I'm a dick.
I'm fucking shooting, come on, my buddy. Some people come normally, but not this guy.
He just runs in the family.

Speaker 12 And when the new Duncan turned 12 years old in 1963, the consciousness of the old Duncan, the one dying from time sickness, was transferred into the body of the new 12-year-old Duncan.

Speaker 12 Yeah, so they had to kill that 12-year-old, throw him in the trash. They don't say what happened to the consciousness of the 12-year-old.
They killed the 12-year-old.

Speaker 12 They had to kill the boy to make room for another boy. But no, they can't kill the boy because they need the body of the boy, and the boys, they just push the consciousness out into the ether.

Speaker 12 You wipe what makes the boy the boy, and then you insert a new boy into what used to be the old boy and make a new boy. What is life?

Speaker 12 But that's all to say that this body swap is how Duncan Cameron was able to make the claim that he was one of the scientists involved with the Philadelphia experiment, which, of course, occurred eight years before Duncan Cameron was actually born in the year 1951.

Speaker 12 Well, maybe they put the consciousness of this other boy. boy into old deteriorating Duncan.

Speaker 12 I think they told the other boy that his his personality was going to be put in a nice field where he could run and fly. And they're all like, oh, you see all my stuff?

Speaker 12 You're like, oh, yeah, oh, definitely. And then just killed that boy.
Yeah, I actually never did get to think about that.

Speaker 12 They probably did just switch the minds, and they just doomed a 12-year-old to die a horrible death

Speaker 12 in an old man's body. Because that consciousness exists.
So it has to go somewhere.

Speaker 12 So they are basically saying, we killed a boy. Mom Talk Project was entirely about killing and making boys invisible.
I know, but the one of the boys, though, is now saying that they killed a boy.

Speaker 12 Oh, definitely. Yeah, okay.
Well, he felt very sorry about it. In his tour of the abandoned Montauk Project, Duncan Cameron starts going, I'm sorry.

Speaker 12 Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's shelves.
You should watch this tour. It's two and a half hours long, and it's Preston Nichols going, and here are the shelves in which they put the Montauk boys.

Speaker 12 You could hear the screaming. And over here, you could see the lockers where they held some of the boys.
They were in there with padlocks. And over here, you see some more lockers for the boys.

Speaker 12 It's all just like weird wooden structures.

Speaker 12 Duncan, however, was not the only member of the Cameron family to go through the body swap process. And he was not the only one who was also directly involved in the Montauk project.

Speaker 12 Now remember that Duncan's brother, Ed Cameron, he supposedly stayed behind in 1943.

Speaker 12 At some point, Ed was made to forget everything that happened with the Philadelphia experiment and his time travel adventures to the year 2749, and he was soon after supposedly transferred to work on the Manhattan Project.

Speaker 12 Ed Cameron, however, bumped heads with one of the other scientists and was removed from the project that built the world's first atomic bomb.

Speaker 12 Ed then started his own business building the first ion propulsion engine, but that project ran afoul of the interests of the United States government for one reason or another.

Speaker 12 So a black ops team disappeared Ed, and the government sent Ed through a space portal to Alpha Centauri 1 by calling in a favor with one of the various alien races with whom they'd signed interstellar treaties.

Speaker 12 You know how that goes. Oh, yeah.
You could tack one of the things on there. That's one of the additionals on there.
And you could tack that in. It's in late negotiations.

Speaker 12 Why do aliens believe in treaties? There's no law upholding it. It's for us, Eddie.
Yes. But

Speaker 12 they could give a shit. Yeah, of course.
That's why we'll never know what their actual agendas are. Yeah.

Speaker 12 They can pull out at any time. We don't know what they're really up to.
We're just trusting them because we get Wi-Fi. Yeah, because the UN holds nothing over them.

Speaker 12 You know those things the OnlyFans girls use where they put it in their buttholes and their vaginas and they can pulse electronically from far away? Sure. It's the aliens.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 Where would we be? That's what they get in the deal.

Speaker 12 Once on Alpha Centauri, Ed Cameron was experimented upon by aliens.

Speaker 12 But the final indignation came when Ed Cameron was brought back to Montauk and put through a series of age regression procedures that reduced him back to a small infant.

Speaker 12 Infant Ed was then sent back in time to the year 1927, where he was placed with a new family and renamed Al Belick. I could just see them looking at this infant being like, call him Al.

Speaker 12 Paul Simon songs.

Speaker 12 Duncan, what's his name? Call me out.

Speaker 12 Oh, my God, Eddie.

Speaker 12 I'm not even joking. That might be one of the keys to this whole fucking thing.
Yeah,

Speaker 12 if there's a guy named Julio in the story somewhere, I'm going to shit. Yeah, because that means Preston Nichols was just obsessed with the fucking...
What was it?

Speaker 12 Well, the movie by Mike Nichols, the graduate? No, the other one that has... Oh, my God, that's another one.
Graceland. Yeah.
Wow. Is this all Graceland-based? Is this Graceland DLC?

Speaker 12 As long as this is not Rhythm of the Saints. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 Now, you conspiracy heads out there probably know the name Al Bielik. Because along with Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron, Al Bielik is the third public voice in the Montauk project.

Speaker 12 Arguably, Al Bielik is the most well-known of the conspiracy theorists here. Of all of them, because Al Bielik mostly is known for the Philadelphia experiment.

Speaker 12 He's the one that put all the Philadelphia experiment stuff out there.

Speaker 12 That was like his thing. And it wasn't until Preston Nichols started talking that Al Bielik started being like, yeah.

Speaker 12 You know what I mean? Like, so they all started putting their stories together. You can almost say that they were still crazy after all these years.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 12 We have to be careful. We have to be careful.
Paul's head, but we were holding Garfunk.

Speaker 12 Well, supposedly, this is Al Bielik's story.

Speaker 12 After being sent back to 1927 to grow up a second time, Bielick was recruited by the Navy out of high school towards the end of World War II, and he eventually began working in the corners of the military that dealt with psyops and extraterrestrials.

Speaker 12 But because of his work with aliens, Bielick was also close friends with conspiracy theorist Phil Schneider, who we talked about extensively in our Aliens Attack episode.

Speaker 12 Interestingly, though, Phil Schneider claimed that his father was a former Nazi scientist who brought his work on Nazi time travel to America, where he applied that Nazi time travel knowledge to what else but the Philadelphia experiment.

Speaker 12 God damn it. Can you imagine hanging out with all these guys?

Speaker 12 Like what it's like to hang out with Phil Schneider and light his cigar because he can't. He must be so afraid of fire.
Do you think he's like Frankenstein's monster?

Speaker 12 He's like, oh no.

Speaker 12 I know if you're hanging out with these guys, you got to pick up the check. I'm saying that.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah, buddy. And it better be.
You might need to throw in some gas money as well.

Speaker 12 Just so we're clear on the body swaps, let's review. Thank you.
Duncan Cameron and Ed Cameron both traveled through time.

Speaker 12 But the side effects of time travel caused Duncan to age rapidly, and his consciousness was therefore transferred to the body of his own 12-year-old brother in 1963, who had been conceived by Duncan and Ed's father at the request of the United States government.

Speaker 12 Got it? Got it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 12 come out the butt. The butt.
Shit out the dick. Kill the boy.
Kill the boy. Yes.

Speaker 12 Ed Cameron, meanwhile, was purposefully de-aged into an infant by that same government after going through the time travel and coming back to 1943.

Speaker 12 Then he was taken back in time to the year 1927, where he was raised under the name of Al Belick. So Al Belick and Ed Cameron are the same person, just de-aged and grown up in a different time.

Speaker 12 Where all this comes together is that Al Bielick, who, if you remember, formerly Ed Cameron, he was eventually recruited into the Montauk project along with the rest of them, where he worked as a scientist primarily concerned with the operations of the Montauk chair.

Speaker 12 Like Preston Nichols, Bielick also claimed to have met Mark Hamill in Hawaii in the 1950s, although I'm still entirely unclear on just what role Mark Hamill is supposed to play here, other than being a guy who just shows up every once in a while.

Speaker 12 I don't know. He just keeps

Speaker 12 bringing up Mark Hamill, Mark Hamill. But they never say what he was doing.
He's there to force the boys into the chair. Absolutely.
With the force. Yes.
Excellent.

Speaker 12 But I don't think Mark Hamill has that ability.

Speaker 12 Mark Hamill is an actor.

Speaker 12 He's not a general. He's a great actor.

Speaker 12 And I believe he can talk any boy into any chair he wants. But I don't think Mark Hamill's trying to.
I think that these guys just really wish they had met Mark Hamill. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Now, Al Belick, aka Ed Cameron, he claimed that when he began working on the Montauk project, he actually lived in California, but he commuted to Long Island every day via a magnetic levitation subway train that traversed the country in just two hours.

Speaker 12 Eventually, though, the train was replaced with an underground time tunnel machine.

Speaker 12 The technology that made the time tunnel possible was what else but the Montauk chair, which by this point was being operated by none other than Al Belik's supposed brother, Duncan Cameron. Yes.

Speaker 12 So if the train goes underground, why does it have to be time traveling? Because otherwise it can't travel fast enough.

Speaker 12 No, it was first a magnetic levitation subway train that traveled through magnets. Yeah, and that was

Speaker 12 underground. Underground.
It was levitating underground. It was levitating underground.
It levitated over the tracks. Tracks.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because of the magnets, which made the magnets also made it go real fast.

Speaker 12 Making the train real light. Okay.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 But then it's just a time tunnel, and they just walk through the time tunnel. They just farted it out.

Speaker 12 But they're not going through time. They're going through space.
They're using time to travel. Time and space.
Time is space. Yeah, they're using time to travel through space.

Speaker 12 Time is what it takes for you to travel through space. I guess so.

Speaker 12 You know what? I'm going to take that. I'm going to take, I guess so.
I can't wait to see the fucking emails we get every single time we try to talk science on this show. And this is.

Speaker 12 This isn't science. I know it's not.

Speaker 12 Don't dare. I already am hearing people that know science mean like, that's not how the magnets work.
And it's like, of course it's not. None of this is real.
Yes.

Speaker 12 It's some of it, but who knows? Some of it might be real, but none of it is fully real. Montauk exists.
Does.

Speaker 12 Now, I have no idea how Duncan Cameron made his way back into the Montauk project, whether his younger self was recruited or kidnapped or what, because Duncan Cameron was extremely vague on many extremely important plot points, such as this.

Speaker 12 What we do know is that at some point in the early 70s, Duncan Cameron had somehow become an extremely powerful psychic.

Speaker 12 He was therefore one of the Montauk Project's most important assets, although it does seem like he was being forced to use the Montauk chair against his will. At first,

Speaker 12 he was excited and he was engaged. Partially, it was the way that Preston Nichols described Duncan Cameron as, he's a guy that can literally only focus on one thing at a time.

Speaker 12 And what what he meant by that was that he said that Duncan Cameron had a special ability. It wasn't even necessarily that he was psychic.

Speaker 12 It's that he was so well able to concentrate and without anybody else's interference that he could create pictures in his mind and hold them no matter what you did to him.

Speaker 12 You could fucking hit him in the knees with a stick. You could fucking

Speaker 12 pull on his belly. You know what I mean? You could give him wet willies and stuff.
And he's still thinking about it and he's locked in.

Speaker 12 And because what they figured out is the reason why they need a human mind to to do any of this stuff is because technically it's too difficult to do the math and the science to make it up but if you just think about it and you make up a time tunnel in your brain you're doing all the work despite thinking about it See what I'm saying?

Speaker 12 You don't have the technology to build it, but if you just think about it being real and you have a psychic materialist machine that can make it real, then it becomes real because you're just thinking about it and it's using your mind thoughts.

Speaker 12 Power of positive thinking. No, it's the actual making of the thing.
It's the power of the visualization of your mind. Uh-huh.
Yeah. It makes sense.

Speaker 12 Michael Jackson used to write his songs by just like humming them, and then Quincy Jones would make it.

Speaker 12 And then the kid goes, hey, let me go.

Speaker 12 He goes, hey, get him, get it. We'll cut that part, and then we'll see the rest of it.

Speaker 12 Okay, but I think it'll work.

Speaker 12 Well, I'm also unsure if Al Bilick and Duncan Cameron knew that they were supposedly brothers while they were in Montauk. They didn't know.
They They didn't know.

Speaker 12 But the important thing to know here is that Al Bielik claims that he was the program director in charge of the psychics who men the Montauk chair.

Speaker 12 He's sort of like the Matthew Modine character in Stranger Things.

Speaker 12 So to recap one more time, we're now back in the late 70s where Al Bielik, aka Ed Cameron, was controlling the mechanisms behind the Montauk chair while his supposed brother, Duncan Cameron, was sitting in the chair itself, operating as the psychic battery.

Speaker 12 And yes,

Speaker 12 they did say over and over again. You said that Preston Cameron said that it wasn't that he was psychic, but in the books, they referred to him as a powerful psychic like thousands of times.

Speaker 12 Preston Nichols downplays Duncan Cameron's abilities sometimes because I believe that Duncan Cameron annoys Preston Nichols in all of the footage. He needs to take him down a peg or two.

Speaker 12 Constantly is negging Duncan Cameron. He's constantly being like, and that's what Duncan does.
Yeah. Like, he's always saying weird, like, kind of like

Speaker 12 hips. Passive aggressive.
He's catching strays for no reason. There's like a whole section where it's like and here's Duncan's pet.

Speaker 12 Like they're going through the Montauk area and then he focuses on a daddy long-legged spider and he's like and there's Duncan Cameron's pet.

Speaker 12 There's Duncan's pet that he's forcing me to take a picture of. And then it cut over to him going

Speaker 12 Duncan Cameron was just going

Speaker 12 I gotta believe acting out the monster like he was doing this thing and he's like there's Duncan being Duncan.

Speaker 12 Like it's all like they're just talking shit what Duncan could have used is a Montauk treadmill

Speaker 12 now once the Montauk chair moved beyond influencing the thoughts of the person sitting in it it was discovered that the chair could be used to read the mind of the user although that person did need to be a powerful psychic for the chair to properly work The psychic would think specific thoughts, which the Montauk chair computers would quote-unquote catch and translate to a display monitor.

Speaker 12 But as the scientists learned more about the Montauk chair and the alien technology contained therein, they found they could use the chair to amplify thoughts and minds to achieve incredible things.

Speaker 12 So by 1977, the transmitter system for the Montauk chair could be used to receive and transmit any and all psychoactive functions.

Speaker 12 And it seemed like the sky was the limit as long as Duncan Cameron was the psychic in the seat.

Speaker 12 And I can't stress enough, the Montauk chair, when I first thought of this, I was like, oh, it's going to be a big, ornate, fun-looking sci-fi chair. Mass.
It's got to be like 10 feet tall at least.

Speaker 12 It's a recliner.

Speaker 12 It's crazy.

Speaker 12 It is literally

Speaker 12 Long Island out there. It is just exactly the same chair my uncle sat in.
We met Rob's family today. I know your father has a chair that he sits in, right?

Speaker 12 Yeah, there's, yeah, he's got one. Right? Yeah, he's got a chair.
My father has a chair that no one else is allowed to sit in. It's my father's chair.

Speaker 12 No one would sit in it because for some reason, the chair itself has become disgusting. Yeah.
Yeah. And he's just melting his balls into it.
Yes. And so that's the Montauk chair.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 12 That's just a recliner. It is just a tasty Long Island artifact.

Speaker 12 I imagined something that was sort of like the Game of Thrones chair, like the Game of Thrones throne, but except made out of like electronics.

Speaker 12 And, you know, there's all sorts of like monitors and shit attached to it. Brown recline chair.

Speaker 12 I was, yeah, I thought I was expecting like a metal chair with like a like an electrocution helmet on it.

Speaker 12 I swear to God, it's a fucking just, they got it from, they just went down the street to one of those like dumb shit Long Island furniture. Fob discretion.
Fob discount furniture. Great.

Speaker 12 Well, the

Speaker 12 it's not really the chair that makes the chair. It's all the stuff around it and the guy in it.

Speaker 12 Well, the first seemingly impossible thing that Duncan Cameron claimed to have achieved was the ability to concentrate on just the thought of an object and using nothing but the power of his mind he claimed that he could produce said object out of thin air.

Speaker 12 I would imagine that's what it sounds like.

Speaker 12 It sounds like when something comes from another dimension.

Speaker 12 This is a dumb buffalo.

Speaker 12 Put it back.

Speaker 12 Well, the results of this thought-matter transformation, however, were mixed.

Speaker 12 Sometimes it was said that Duncan could conjure up just the image of an object, which would disappear as soon as the Montauk chair was turned off.

Speaker 12 But once Duncan got really good at creating matter out of pure thought, the objects would be solid and they would remain long after the experiment ended.

Speaker 12 And it was even said that he could make new buildings appear on the grounds of the Montauk base. Would have been helpful after 9-11.
They really are straight up.

Speaker 12 Too much of a flex anyway. They can't do it all at once.
It's just a giant building that just has like some of the things that are going to be. So print some more plates.

Speaker 12 See what you think of two more buildings, you fucking idiot. We just print that shit.

Speaker 12 On the more stranger things side of the Montauk project, Duncan claimed that in an experiment called the seeing eye, he could use an object that belonged to a person, like a lock of hair, and use that object as a conduit that would allow him to see, hear, and feel everything that his target experienced.

Speaker 12 Do you feel that when we were younger, the idea of people giving and using locks of hair for things was like a much bigger thing? Yeah.

Speaker 12 And now I have not held a lock of someone's hair in a very long time. No, I think that died with our guy.
I think it died actually with the generation before us.

Speaker 12 Because no one ever gave me a lock of hair. Yeah, who would ever give anybody a lock of hair? Has anybody done that? Your mom probably has.

Speaker 12 I have photo albums that my mom put together with locks of hair like in the photo albums. Yeah.
I don't know what it was with locks of hair in the 80s and 70s and 80s. Yeah, back to the 30s, 40s, 50s.

Speaker 12 Like these people have been doing locks. Like it's just us.
You know, it's another thing millennials killed. We killed the lock of hair industry.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 I blame us. One after another after another.

Speaker 12 Well, Duncan claimed that he could use the seeing eye experiment to find anyone on the planet 99 times out of 100 if his powers were amplified by the Montauk chair.

Speaker 12 And he even claimed that he could control people if he took his powers to the limits.

Speaker 12 Duncan, however, said that he could only reach the height of his powers by tapping into his secret CIA NSA psychosexual training. Yes, my brother taught me.

Speaker 12 He said that he could put himself into a state of orgasmic trance by presumably tapping into Wilhelm Reich's Orgon energies.

Speaker 12 And when he was in this state, he claimed that he was far more pliable for experiments.

Speaker 12 So, NSA psychosexual training. Yeah.
It's basically just to like watch chicks in the shower. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 That's what they do best. Well, it's what this is, man.
This is gooning. Oh, it is gooning.
This is the power of gooning.

Speaker 12 And that's what this, this whole Montauk project is literally powered by gooning.

Speaker 12 And that you have to stay in a perpetually semi-hard state, which has got to be exhausting for a while, especially for a man in a beret.

Speaker 12 That he's just sitting there just absolutely, I don't know what would make him hard. I imagine thinking about trains and thinking, I think Duncan Cameron would be super into Miss Piggy.

Speaker 12 You know what I mean? For some reason in my mind, I could see him fucking Muppets. I'm guessing sandwiches.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, sure.
No, that's Preston. No, Preston's more into.
Preston's the big boy.

Speaker 12 Duncan Cameron, yeah, he's the biggest. He's the skinny boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, the experiments with Duncan Cameron and the Montauk chair continued in a sort of scattershot way to see what stuck.

Speaker 12 Although most of the time, it seemed like Duncan was focusing his psychic energies on the poor local people of Montauk.

Speaker 12 It was said that Duncan could make TVs malfunction, and he could use telekinesis to destroy random rooms around town like a poltergeist, and could even make windows shatter at will.

Speaker 12 This is what's happening in my fucking childhood home. This is what was fucking going on.
It's why my mom was always like, all I ever do is clean. It wasn't us.

Speaker 12 It was Duncan. Yeah.
No, so you think he was reaching into Queens? Oh, definitely. Woodhaven's not that far.
I guess it's not. No.
I was born close to Long Island.

Speaker 12 I was was born in the Jamaica Hospital. Yeah.
And my wife was born in Long Island. Nice.

Speaker 12 Queens is the end of Long Island. Yeah.
Yeah. So you were born in Long Island.
Close.

Speaker 12 But it's.

Speaker 12 I'm from Queens, not from Long Island. But Queens is in Long Island.
But that's not called, that's not where that is. It's called Long Island.

Speaker 12 Long Island's only a certain area once you get past a certain area of Queens. But it's all on the same island.
It is. Yep.

Speaker 12 Good. Yeah.
So it's the same thing.

Speaker 12 Fucking throwing goddamn halls.

Speaker 12 Well, Duncan also claimed that he could influence conscious creatures.

Speaker 12 He said he could cause animals from the surrounding wooded areas to invade Montauk, or he could influence citizens to embark on spontaneous crime waves that would stop just as suddenly.

Speaker 12 You know what no one's ready for, neither one of you dickheads is ready for, is how this whole thing created the Amityville horror case as well. Oh, yeah.
Definitely not ready for that.

Speaker 12 It's a whole side angle. This is this whole.
Do they mention that?

Speaker 12 You just have to read this stuff long enough. And then anything that has taken place in the tri-state area can be applied to the Montauk Project.
Yes. And that is the entire storyline.

Speaker 12 You ask me, how did the Montauk project create the Amityville horror case? How did the Montauk? Project create the Amityville horror case. It did.

Speaker 12 It just seems like Duncan's telekinesis is his excuse for getting drunk and breaking everything.

Speaker 12 It's a great excuse.

Speaker 12 Now, unfortunately for Duncan Cameron, using the Montauk chair came at a price.

Speaker 12 Supposedly, since he was bombarded with intense radio and microwaves every time he used it, his brains and chest were being slowly cooked over time.

Speaker 12 Duncan claimed that this so-called cooking was so intense that he had become effectively brain dead by the year 1986.

Speaker 12 He said he consulted with a neurologist and a group of psychics who all confirmed that, well, yes, his brain was dead, his body and consciousness were still functioning at a relatively normal rate.

Speaker 12 I need this thumb. I need to go talk to these guys.
Yes, sir, the brain is dead, but your legs did carry you here.

Speaker 12 And supposedly, Duncan's doctor told him that the only way it was possible for Duncan to be brain dead, yet still apparently alive, was because of his strong psychic powers. I knew it.

Speaker 12 I knew I would be. According to to the doctor, the experiments had killed his living body, but his psychic self took over and held him together.

Speaker 12 So while his brainstem and spinal cord were alive, his actual brain was dead as a doornail. That? I believe.

Speaker 12 I just want to ask, is there any way to switchy-flip those?

Speaker 12 Have the other side be alive. The other side would be dead, huh? Can we do flippy switch? Is there a flippy switch machine?

Speaker 12 Why would you want a flippy switch? Because right now, I can't do things like laugh or dance or I guess dream or smile.

Speaker 12 I mostly just work.

Speaker 12 And frown. Yes, my brain is dead.

Speaker 12 My brain is dead and I can't think of anything anymore. What do I think about? I don't even know how I'm talking.

Speaker 12 That's the thing. He's talking.
Yeah, he's not. No, he's talking.
He's hanging out. No, it's because it's his psychic self that's doing all of it.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 12 It's a great excuse on how to fall asleep mid-conversation. I have to start.
This is important, guys. You need to start writing this shit down.
Sorry, don't mean to be rude.

Speaker 12 It's just that, you know, my brain was cooked by all these experiments I was involved in in 1986.

Speaker 12 This is a fucking Gen Z fucking guy here.

Speaker 12 Now, Duncan supposedly spent two years doing all sorts of psychic experiments at the Montauk project. But in 1979, his psychic thoughts suddenly stopped.
Or so they thought.

Speaker 12 Eventually, the scientists figured out that Duncan Cameron's thoughts, like the sailors involved in the Philadelphia experiment, had just entered a different time stream.

Speaker 12 So Duncan refocused his energies and concentrated on using this accidental bridge to create an opening in time.

Speaker 12 Supposedly, Duncan opened up his first portal in 1980, which created a 10-year bridge to the next decade. This tunnel was said to look more or less like what you'd see in the TV show Slider.
Sliders.

Speaker 12 And a person could apparently just stroll through the tunnel just so long as Duncan kept concentrating on it. But it was extremely difficult for him to concentrate on the tunnel.

Speaker 12 The tunnel was took a lot of psychic energy for him to hold up, which is actually like one of the big problems of this whole fucking thing. Yeah.
Because it's all depending on Duncan Cameron.

Speaker 12 And then you look over and you think about this entire, like, again,

Speaker 12 imagine all this is real. I am.
And then, you know, I'm just touching the audience. Imagine all this is real.

Speaker 12 And then you have this $10 billion funded program by Nazi Gold Gold, and a lot of pressures on a lot of people to figure what's going on here out, right? You got the whole thing.

Speaker 12 You got to make these time tunnels. You're obviously building a lot of plans of this now.

Speaker 12 But then you look at your go-to guy, the guy that's supposed to get the fucking rock, and the guy that's supposed to have the buzzer beater.

Speaker 12 And you look at him and the fat, brown, lazy boy recliner that he's sitting in with a fucking colander strapped to his head. And it's

Speaker 12 fucking Duncan Cameron going, I hope today that we could go to the year 4,000. And they're like, oh, great.
Oh, good. This is him?

Speaker 12 Now, within a year, the Montauk project had all but refocused the whole operation to time travel. Briefly, they rebranded themselves as Phoenix 3.
Whoa!

Speaker 12 Complete with a brand new secret crew who'd been tapped to explore Duncan's time portals. This is where you bring in the Sydney Sweeney.
This is where you bring in the Zendaya.

Speaker 12 This is the whole second crew. This is the new generation.
This is their fourth season. Yeah.

Speaker 12 For some reason, though, some of the Montauk scientists decided that along with the highly trained military crew they'd send a few montauk boys into the time vortex yeah

Speaker 12 yeah i can't wait to go yeah fuck yeah let's go yeah you bet i don't want to live

Speaker 12 i don't got a future anyways

Speaker 12 the boys ages nine to sixteen of course got lost in the time

Speaker 12 so the scientists they sent in a local boy completely outside of the project to go round up all the other boys and bring them home.

Speaker 12 Once they got back, one boy claimed that he traveled as far as the year 6037.

Speaker 12 Wow.

Speaker 12 That's a big TV.

Speaker 12 Wow, nice gun TVs, huh? That's great. How would he know? Hey, it's right there.
Look, it's right there. It's a calendar.

Speaker 12 You know what? I do have an answer, though.

Speaker 12 But some Montauk boys were unfortunately lost forever in the time stream i just love this idea of a portal opens up this is a big time and then you just grab a kid just getting done playing fucking stick ball to go and then they're like they're throwing him in there he doesn't come back this but this whole thing revolves around this you heard about this idea how they test the montauk boys to see if they're working how they test them what they do is to see if the time tunnel's working They throw them in the tube.

Speaker 12 They throw the Montauk boy in the tube. Into the tube.
And then they send them to the same year to calibrate their time travel. They send them to the same year.
I think it's in that 2700-year range.

Speaker 12 And they're supposed to find a horse statue that's in a field. And then they read the plate on the plaque on the horse statue.

Speaker 12 And then when they come back, if they could say the exact sentence that was on the horse statue, they knew the time travel worked. But what if the voice is like really fucking stupid? I can't read.

Speaker 12 Yeah, or you forget. Ah, shh, we gotta interview these kids.

Speaker 12 That's not a biscuit. That's a horse.

Speaker 12 I'll take a little boy from Montuk. That future's stupid.
All right. Time travel question.
Great. All right.
6037.

Speaker 12 We all, the world could be gone by then. We don't know.

Speaker 12 We don't know what's going on. Civilization, at the very least, could be gone.
What if you time travel to a time Earth is blown up, swallowed by the sun?

Speaker 12 When you time travel there, are you just floating in space? Yes. Well, that's where the Earth should have been.
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 12 That's also one of the questions of time travel is if you travel through time, if the Earth is constantly moving towards space, so there's the idea that if you travel forward in time and you don't time it just correctly, then you will end up floating in space because you're traveling from the specific point that you're at, but the Earth is not there anymore.

Speaker 12 So

Speaker 12 you would have to go to the exact time and space. Yeah,

Speaker 12 so you'd have to do a lot of calculations to make sure. Like, you can't travel to any time.
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Speaker 12 Like, why do you think Duncan Cameron was so tired? This is extremely hard for him. He has never had a job.
So it would always have to be on April 10th, like, if I time travel today. I don't know.

Speaker 12 I don't know. Okay.
Depends on the Earth's rotation. Oh, yeah, and there's leap years.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, which makes the Earth fucking twice its size.
Yeah.

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Speaker 12 Before long, the Montauk project figured out how to use the time vortex tunnels to travel not only through time, but space as well.

Speaker 12 Although, again, it seems like this ability was discovered entirely by accident. Technically, time travel is the same as traveling through space.
Technically, sure.

Speaker 12 While Duncan was...

Speaker 12 I get it.

Speaker 12 While Duncan was opening time portals sometime in the early 80s, he suddenly found himself opening direct portals to the the planet Mars.

Speaker 12 And it was discovered that Mars was filled to the brim with pyramids. Can't even fucking, yeah, you can't walk down the street, Mars, without fucking tripping over a pyramid.

Speaker 12 But the pyramids on Mars are supposedly pretty much the same pyramids that we have here on Earth. They're cold.

Speaker 12 Super cold. Yeah, super cold.
But they're both filled with ancient alien technology.

Speaker 12 But while the pyramids on Earth have all been plundered by other alien races, the pyramids on Mars were sealed with extra security. so all that ancient alien technology shits up for grabs.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 12 So, to try and access the technology, Duncan Cameron used the Montauk chair to travel first to the year 1943 for reasons unexplained. He missed it.

Speaker 12 He missed the tax rate.

Speaker 12 Then he used the chair to open a vortex directly inside the Mars pyramids, where he found a sort of defense system that was keeping aliens out of our solar system. It's apparently this amazing thing.

Speaker 12 I don't know what it is. It's called A

Speaker 12 D T.

Speaker 12 the code is one one

Speaker 12 one

Speaker 12 one

Speaker 12 Duncan turned the system off again for reasons unexplained and that Duncan claims is why UFOs began turning up on Earth en masse starting in the 1940s because he went back in time and turned off the security system on Mars in 1943.

Speaker 12 Did he say I'm sorry? Did he say I'm sorry? For this one, I don't think he did. No, he said I'm sorry to the boys.
And I bet you one of those boys was Barack Obama.

Speaker 12 Because Barack Obama was on Mars as a part of a different time-traveling boys scenario on the Project Serpo storyline, which was all happening at the same time.

Speaker 12 Barack Obama was a Project Serpo boy that was trained in space/slash time travel, and he actually was on the planet Mars.

Speaker 12 He was a part of the team scooping up that ancient technology from those pyramids. And if you don't believe that, you can just check his birth certificate.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you go ahead and believe another word out of the mouth of Barack Hussein Obama.

Speaker 12 Now, after many years of using the Montauk chair, it seems like Duncan had finally had his fill of the Montauk experience by 1983. I'm just kind of burnt out.

Speaker 12 It's unclear whether what happened next was planned or spontaneous, but Duncan claims that through the power of his mind, he was able to shut down the whole project in just one day.

Speaker 12 Yeah, dude, he was fucking sick of that shit, dude. Fucking take this job and shove it.

Speaker 12 On August 12th, 1983, Duncan was supposedly strapped down in the chair for an experiment. But for some reason, he began imagining a fearsome monster.

Speaker 12 Is it Conan O'Brien?

Speaker 12 The fearsome monster was a massive humanoid creature standing nine feet tall with a long snout, small eyes, and a mouthful of sharp teeth.

Speaker 12 People describe it as looking like the most aggressive Sasquatch imaginable. So it was Conan O'Brien.
He's just like, Duncan Cameron is just like, it's a very cartoony-sounded monster. Yeah.

Speaker 12 But just as Duncan was imagining it, the creature supposedly conjured itself into existence right in the middle of the lab, where it wrecked everything in its path and actually began eating any Montauk scientists it could get its hands on.

Speaker 12 Finally, someone's killing these Nazis. All right.

Speaker 12 Well, he did, like, they had a pad, right? So, they had a thing where they were developing it, and eventually they used the time travel portal to squirt things out of it.

Speaker 12 They had a special receiving area that would be like a 3D printer for a bunch of all these things that he was making up. And that was when the monster came through.

Speaker 12 And that was before, because it was, I guess it's like Preston Nichols. Because again, Preston Nichols says he did not organize anything.
No. His job was to run the ones and zeros on the chair.

Speaker 12 That's what he did, right? He was the, he's just a, literally, he's just a tech guy. So who organized it? Von Neumann? Von Neumann.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 Von Neumann and Albilik. And all the people above, all the people that we don't know above all of this, right? And the Wingmakers, the robots from the future.
And so this is a, it's all real.

Speaker 12 And so this came out. He was already feeling upset because Duncan Cameron was watching all of these boys disappear.
And he missed the boys. And the boys were his friends.

Speaker 12 The boys were the only ones talking to him because he was a lonely Long Island weirdo.

Speaker 12 And there's nothing, a bunch of like Long Island weirdos, for some reason, always sort of attract like a bunch of like weird fanboys. Yeah.
Yeah, actually, that does happen quite a bit.

Speaker 12 You know, I know. It's probably grooming in a way.

Speaker 12 Strange old men. No, no, no.
I hung out with plenty of strange old men when I was a kid. No, I know.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 12 And nothing happened. Okay.

Speaker 12 No, he'd be talking about it if it happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'd know if it happened. Yeah.

Speaker 12 No. Unless you had your mind wiped.

Speaker 12 No, that was really only one of them that I think came close. All the rest,

Speaker 12 he was definitely grooming me with basketball cards. Oh, yeah.
Without a doubt,

Speaker 12 without a doubt.

Speaker 12 But yeah, most of them were just weird, lonely old men who like speaking with boys. You know, they exist.
They do. You can hang out.
It's hard these days. It's not the same.
It's much harder. Yeah.

Speaker 12 I think that the 90s is the last time that... You could really just hang out with a boy all day.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 That a weird single old man could hang out with a boy all day long and it was fine. In fact, people paid him to do so.
You know what I wish that we could do in this generation that we can't do?

Speaker 12 It's entirely innocent, but I miss it. Seeing a random little boy in the street, giving him 10 bucks and saying, go get something from the store for me.
Come back. Yeah.
Like a mobster. I miss that.

Speaker 12 Yeah. That's nice.
That's very nice. We had a guy in our neighborhood who used to take all the kids to the movies all the time.
Imagine that happening today. He was a solo dude.

Speaker 12 He was a solo-ass dude living by himself.

Speaker 12 And he would take us all to the movies and we'd come back and be like, Oliver Company was great. And

Speaker 12 I mean, I'm fine. Yeah, you didn't get God.
And I feel like there was a lot of home.

Speaker 12 You ever go to a home babysitter that had a bunch of other kids in it? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 12 It's called an unlicensed daycare.

Speaker 12 A lot of Montauk boys. No, that was actually, yeah, when I was five, I went to one of those.

Speaker 12 And in order to keep me quiet while the other kids were taking naps, the person, the woman who ran the place just let me watch Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 12 That's a cool babysitter. I thought you were going to say tied you to a chair.

Speaker 12 Now, back to the creature. Accounts vary as to how large this creature supposedly was.
Super big.

Speaker 12 It is very hard to ever hear press and nichols go, the monster. The monster came through here each time.
And you can see here the height of the monster.

Speaker 12 We're saying it's anywhere from nine feet to 30 feet. Everybody's got something different.
Everyone's seen the monster from different angles. Yeah, they did.
Some people said it was nine feet.

Speaker 12 Some people said it was three stories tall. But what we do know, supposedly, is that when the creature appeared in McGand's rampage, our hero from episode one, Preston Nichols, was in the room.

Speaker 12 You stop, monster! Choose peace!

Speaker 12 Choose peace, monster! Well, by Preston's account, the creature, which he later named Junya, was probably 10 feet tall.

Speaker 12 But even though Preston was terrified, he said that he was ordered to shut down the transmitters in an attempt to send the monster back to the netherworld.

Speaker 12 Yeah, he knew he was 10 feet tall because he could dunk a basketball on him.

Speaker 12 I know it's super humiliating because I never played a horse with a big foot.

Speaker 12 There was, however, a hitch here. See, in order for Preston's powerful psychic energies to work at maximum power, he had to connect with a past version of himself.

Speaker 12 And apparently, this whole time, Duncan's 1943 version had just been hanging around on the USS Eldridge next to a transmitter. And the two versions were working together.

Speaker 12 But since Duncan was too busy conjuring the monster, there was no one available to open a time vortex in 1943 to tell the other Duncan to turn off the transmitter on his side. See, common mistake.

Speaker 12 That's why you have redundancies. That's why you got a plan.

Speaker 12 So, when Preston Nichols was given the order to shut it all down, he took the same approach Duncan and Ed had taken when they had to shut down the Philadelphia experiment, which was to basically run around and wreck shit until the power turned off.

Speaker 12 As such, after cutting numerous wires and turning off every transmitter and electrical transformer he could find, Preston Nichols was finally successful in making the beast disappear.

Speaker 12 But not before the beast wrecked the lab and killed many of the scientists. No!

Speaker 12 Imagine being a Montauk, like Montauk boy, like showing up and like, hey guys, I'm back from 2394. Oh, damn!

Speaker 12 Oh boy!

Speaker 12 Honestly, it's fun. It is.
All of this is fun. This is like, they also said a lot of this, the difficult part was that because the US Eldritch, according to the USS Eldritch, never shut off.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 That's like one of these things that they kind of say that, like, that experiment essentially destroyed and changed reality in a way that was real bad in this timeline.

Speaker 12 And that what it did is that it also made these things last a super long time.

Speaker 12 So it actually, when they said that when they finally cut all the power supplies off, I thought it was interesting that they said the monster didn't immediately disappear.

Speaker 12 He like slowly, part by part, disappeared.

Speaker 12 Now I'm imagining the red monster from Bugs Bunny. That's a good one.
That is a good one. Damn.
I feel like that's the one I would do with this.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Now, following the Beast Rampage, in which it killed a fair amount of scientists, and I would imagine a whole slew of Montauk boys. I'll die for you.

Speaker 12 Just throw the Montauk boys at them again and again and again. The military allegedly decided that the Montauk project was getting out of hand, so the entire operation was shut down.

Speaker 12 All evidence of the project was either sealed away in the six underground levels, allegedly below what is now Camp Hero State Park, or it was all carried away.

Speaker 12 While the Montauk project technology was used to wipe the memories of everyone who worked on it, including Al Bielik, Duncan Cameron, and Preston Nichols.

Speaker 12 And these people were just sort of sent out into the world with wiped minds. Good work, boys.
Thanks for all your hard work here for the U.S. government.

Speaker 12 Now, go be homeless. Yeah.

Speaker 12 All right. See you later.
Yeah, like when they wiped their minds, did they still know English? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
No, they just wiped it.

Speaker 12 They were able to very specifically target only the parts in the Montauk project. Everything else was still there.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah. Good for them.
Yeah. It's incredible.
I could lose a couple things.

Speaker 12 Honestly, I could lose a couple things as well. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Now, the Montauk project was supposed to stay buried, but Preston Nichols claimed to have found his way back to the Montauk site almost entirely by accident, despite having no memories of it.

Speaker 12 See, Preston said that while he was working for the Montauk project, he was also working for a defense contractor named BJM as an electrical engineer. It was Brookhaven, I forget what else it was.

Speaker 12 He did technically, he did do that.

Speaker 12 He was definitely an electrical engineer. Yeah.
We do know that. So when the Montauk project ended, Preston said he continued his life working for BJM elsewhere on Long Island, I believe.

Speaker 12 But seemingly just a few months after his mind was wiped, Preston obtained a grant from someone to study telepathic communication.

Speaker 12 Well, they said that, to be honest, he was such an attractive candidate for all of these super secret things because he got a master's in parapsychology from Long Island University, where he said that this was the most, the most, he's like, they couldn't believe that I had my own master's degree in parapsychology.

Speaker 12 It's the only one ever given to anybody

Speaker 12 here from Swisswee Long Island. Didn't he also claim to have a degree from the University of Tampa? Yes.
Okay. And he didn't.

Speaker 12 I don't know. According to the

Speaker 12 files, they didn't. I don't have the legit.
information. Okay.
I have all of this information. All right.
I'm sorry. I'll retract my question.
Thank you.

Speaker 12 Please save all reality-based questions for the ending. Yes.
See, according to Preston, the way that telepathy and radio waves work are similar.

Speaker 12 And since he was already an expert in frequencies, he had decided to branch out into studying paranormal phenomena by collaborating with psychics to see just how related these two things were.

Speaker 12 Now, Preston claimed that he soon discovered that there was a certain frequency that could jam psychic abilities just as one can jam radar. That's the 410 to 420 megahertz radio frequency.

Speaker 12 And some of Preston's local Long Island psychics were complaining about getting jammed up. I'm fucking jammed up as fuck, dude.
I've been trying to figure out. I ain't checking.

Speaker 12 I ain't going to the restaurant to see if they got reservations open. I just want to know.
I want to know if they got it opened for nine

Speaker 12 for 12 people because it's my sister's communion. She's coming through a whole thing.
We're doing a whole thing. People come in from out of town.

Speaker 12 You get jammed up because you're eating all that cheese. That's the problem.
And then I'm going to have a little arukal that breaks it up super shoot. It's too much moussanel.
That's the problem.

Speaker 12 Well, in 1984, the year after the Montauk Project was supposedly shut down, Preston took a VHF receiver and drove around Long Island, tracking this jamming frequency until he finally found the source.

Speaker 12 Preston claimed that the psychic jamming frequency was broadcasting from a radar antenna at Fort Hero Air Force Base on Montauk Point, which is, of course, the location of the Montauk Project.

Speaker 12 But remember, Preston had all of his memories of the Montauk Project wiped.

Speaker 12 So, as far as he was concerned, when he showed up on Fort Hero, he'd never been there before in his life, even though he had, or so he claimed. So, when he began.

Speaker 12 So, when he began exploring the now-abandoned base and found high-voltage radio equipment, his interest was peaked. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Through the surplus disposal agency, Preston tried buying this equipment, but the SDA couldn't find any record of the equipment existing.

Speaker 12 Eventually, Preston was contacted by a man with the suspiciously simple name of John Smith. Whoa.

Speaker 12 John Smith told Preston that no one officially owned the equipment, so as far as the SDA was concerned, Preston could just take it.

Speaker 12 He literally could just go to the field and just take all this shit from this place. That's the same thing that John Smith did with Pocahontas.
He did.

Speaker 12 Additionally, the mysterious John Smith also gave Preston a piece of paper and told him to show it to anyone who might question why this corpulent Long Islander was plundering a military base.

Speaker 12 You might want to look at my permission slip.

Speaker 12 It's printed on paper.

Speaker 12 They look at it and they're like, you know what? We were all going to care about this.

Speaker 12 Just fucking get the fuck away from me and Mike Parker. John Smith signed this?

Speaker 12 Oh, wow. Oh, then definitely go right in.
Go right over the four and a half-foot fence!

Speaker 12 Now once Preston got his free pass, he began bringing a psychic friend around Fort Hero. Eventually, they spoke with a caretaker, a man named Mr.
Anderson. Mr.

Speaker 12 Anderson, who very helpfully showed Preston and his psychic around the grounds while encouraging them to take anything they wanted. Take this, of course.
Take this trash can.

Speaker 12 As you can see, I find garbage to be a virus.

Speaker 12 This courtesy, however, was extended to just one single day. Mr.
Anderson told Preston and his psychic friend that they could explore and take stuff, but if they came back a second time, Mr.

Speaker 12 Anderson was going to have to, quote, take Preston out. Because I like you.
And there's something about you that I wish that I had in a friend. And I wish we could go to dinner.

Speaker 12 And I wish that maybe after dinner, we could go get gelato.

Speaker 12 And so, Preston and his psychic friend began exploring the base, where they soon ran into another man wandering the grounds, a man who appeared to be homeless. It's just because I'm not inside.

Speaker 12 This man, however, did have an incredible amount of information as to what had occurred on Camp Hero in the recent past. I'll tell you everything about this whole stupid place, huh?

Speaker 12 It's sort of like, you know, like Chris Farley in Wayne's World. It's like, wow, he had a lot of information for a limo driver.

Speaker 12 It's kind of like, this is that guy.

Speaker 12 It's the exposition man. Yeah.
Yeah. This mysterious, quite rough-looking man told Preston that the base had been used for all manner of experiments.

Speaker 12 Then he began rattling off a bevy of technical details about the machinery used in these experiments and how everything worked.

Speaker 12 The man then said that all of it had just come crashing down one day when, quote, a big beast appeared and frightened everyone away.

Speaker 12 The kicker, however, came when this obviously disturbed man told Preston Nichols that Preston had not only worked on projects in the very base in which they were standing, but that Preston had, in fact, been this man's boss.

Speaker 12 Oh my god, somebody let me be a boss?

Speaker 12 Oh god, what a horrible timeline was that.

Speaker 12 I had trouble finding my suspenders this morning, and it turned out they were on my shoulders.

Speaker 12 Baby, Mike, because I couldn't see past my pendulous Long Island mantis.

Speaker 12 I shouldn't be in charge of Jersey Mike's.

Speaker 12 Now, Preston claims that he was skeptical about all the shit this mysterious man told him.

Speaker 12 I know, buddy, you smell like pace and you look like shit, but I gotta say, you're saying things I like because it means I was a boss to somebody. It's all this man's fault.

Speaker 12 And we're gonna get to that here in a second. We're seriously gonna get to that here in a second.
Wow, I'm right.

Speaker 12 But when Preston asked his psychic to probe the man's mind, the psychic supposedly confirmed that everything Preston's alleged former employee said was true. Ah, he's telling the truth.

Speaker 12 I can tell he's telling the truth, and you owe him a recommendation for working at Bally's gym.

Speaker 12 So, going off what his psychic friend found when delving into the mind of a ranting vagrant making claims of monsters and mind control on an abandoned military base, Preston was 100% on board with the idea and began investigating further.

Speaker 12 Yes, so you can hear, now, Preston would come back on and on again.

Speaker 12 He'd go back to the Montauk base. Now, I found and sat and watched this two-hour long tour of the Montauk Base.
I was in the bath.

Speaker 12 Okay. Ah, your bath.
I never felt so fat as I was sitting. I literally sat.
I had a beer. I'm in the bath.
I did the thing too where I look at my toes are out of the water.

Speaker 12 You know, like a big kind of fat style. I have like, I have a little head pillow I was wearing.
And I sat with my, and I'm watching my UFO documentaries.

Speaker 12 And I'm just sitting there watching it in the bath and stuff and then this is how you're gonna die

Speaker 12 the big fan

Speaker 12 with a laptop electrocuted you know it's on the sink fucking slurry the laptop's on the sink or on the toilet oh because it's shitting

Speaker 12 into my mind

Speaker 13 This is the bunker where the Mont Talk Boys project was done.

Speaker 14 This is where the boys were actually stripped of their mind, and the mind was reformed through computers and reinserted in the body of the boy.

Speaker 12 Yep, this is two hours of this pointing at random things inside of this building. And they put it to this very like,

Speaker 12 it's one of those things where I kind of almost feel bad for the younger generation because they don't get the magic of this.

Speaker 12 This is a fully digitally recreate, like captured VHS tape, and you really get the feeling of it. Like, you could see why it felt real if you were watching this on a shitty TV in your rumpus room.

Speaker 12 This would scare the fuck out of you. Yeah, it looks crazy.
Yeah. Yeah, it looks, it does look real.
It does look like something sinister went down there. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 12 It's an abandoned military base that you somehow have total access to. Yeah.
Because no one cares. No one cares what's happening.
Yeah, and the fence, again, is about four feet tall.

Speaker 12 Which is about three feet higher than I can jump.

Speaker 12 But all this, of course, his investigation of the tour, this came much later. Yes.
Where we're at right now in the story, Preston Nichols is still just trying to figure out what went on.

Speaker 12 So he started with the town of Montauk itself. He went down and started talking to locals, and he soon discovered during his initial investigation that many locals actually recognized him.

Speaker 12 And furthermore, those locals had quite a few tales to tell about the strange things that supposedly happened in Montauk because of the base at Fort Hero.

Speaker 12 Allegedly, several people said that experiments at the base had caused snow to fall in the middle of the summer, and hurricane-force winds could be summoned in an instant, along with random lightning and hailstorms.

Speaker 12 More disturbing, though, was what the base was supposedly able to do with animals.

Speaker 12 At times, locals said that herds of animals would come marching into town in large groups and would sometimes come crashing through windows for no reason whatsoever.

Speaker 12 We were in the middle of the local softball game of the Plumbers Union versus the Fireman.

Speaker 12 About 25 badges came over

Speaker 12 one of the railings of the field.

Speaker 12 And my God, the blood watching those union guys, my proud Union boys and my fireboys just beating the living fuck out of all these badges, beating them to death with the baseball bats, spreading the bullet everywhere.

Speaker 12 It was one of the craziest. Honestly, even

Speaker 12 got to think about it, we were laughing a lot. Yeah.
You know, but it was just, it was unexpected. It was the day that Hookie Joe died of that heart attack.
Yeah,

Speaker 12 because he was swinging on that badge. Swinging on a badge.
Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Badges?

Speaker 12 Badges?

Speaker 12 We don't need no staking badges. That's from UHF.
Yes.

Speaker 12 Well, Preston then supposedly spoke to the Montauk police chief, who told him that the town was plagued with sudden crime sprees that would end just as quickly.

Speaker 12 Teenagers, he said, would also act strangely, sometimes gathering in groups for up to two hours at a time before suddenly dispersing. I can't stand the idea of people hanging out

Speaker 12 for up to two hours. People just visit?

Speaker 12 Fuck that! Fuck that shit! Is this communist Russia?

Speaker 12 Oh, can I also add?

Speaker 12 At the end of all this, I just want to tack on a little bit of the real world stuff of watching the Gilgo Beach murder documentary on Netflix talking about how the Suffolk County sheriffs didn't, they literally covered up the entire serial killer's reign to cover up the fact that they were visiting the same sex workers that the serial killer was, Rex Newman.

Speaker 12 And it seems to just kind of be a part of that. Yeah.
All this could be all an extended part of that.

Speaker 12 Yeah, a little bit. Put it.
So the Montauk boys are the serial killers in Long Island. No, the Montauk boys are the boy sex workers.

Speaker 12 Let's say sex volunteers that they were forced through these scenarios and stuff.

Speaker 12 They were super upset about it. Yeah.
Because workers get paid. You're right.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 Now we don't know how or why,

Speaker 12 but in 1985, after Preston Nichols had been investigating the base at Fort Hero for about a year, Duncan Cameron showed up on Preston's doorstep. Hello!

Speaker 12 Duncan informed Preston that every suspicion he had about the Montauk project was correct, and that they had, in fact, actually worked together numerous times on time travel experiments.

Speaker 12 Duncan, however, said that he was still a little fuzzy on the whole thing because his memories about the Montauk project would phase in and out.

Speaker 12 But Preston claimed to have the ability to use hypnosis to recover repressed memories.

Speaker 12 So, with Preston's help, Duncan claimed that he was able to eventually remember the whole story of what really went down in Montauk.

Speaker 12 Now, from what it seems like to me, there is a sequence of actual real-life events that led to the creation of the Montauk Project story. Sure.
All this is, of course, just my own speculation.

Speaker 12 See, as far as how Preston came to discover Fort Hero, there very well could have been some weird frequency coming from the grounds in 1984 because the base hadn't been shut down all that long and it was possible that some equipment was still running somewhere.

Speaker 12 Preston Nichols was also probably researching the link between psychic abilities and radio frequencies.

Speaker 12 Because going off footage of Preston's home, he really does have a thing for frequencies and sound. I sent this to Marcus.

Speaker 12 I sent him, not this one, but I sent Marcus a clip of Preston Nichols hanging out in his house. And I said, Do you even fucking lift, bro?

Speaker 12 This man, his entire life is sound. Sound he does it.
He is on a different level than me. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 12 If you walk into us watching footage of his home, obviously we talked about the wall-to-wall sound equipment and the stuff going on.

Speaker 12 But his ceiling was just like pumping out

Speaker 12 religious radio, right? Like really, really intense. And on top of his house sits what he does is a rebuild of a fake thing called the Delta T antenna, according to Preston Nichols, right?

Speaker 12 You put the antenna on top of his house. And I want you to hear, now he shot some video in this base tour.
He shot some video outside of his own home. And I want you to imagine you live in East Islip.

Speaker 12 You're in a little suburban country. It's like a nice house.
And this is your next door neighbor. He has got a 12-foot tall pyramid-shaped antenna on his house making this noise.

Speaker 12 That's just from the... This is from the street.
You're hearing the noise from his house.

Speaker 12 This can't be good for anybody. This is why they have pots on their head.
This is why Preston Nichols is this way.

Speaker 12 It's because he's living in this

Speaker 12 surrounded by 9G,

Speaker 12 whatever this shit is.

Speaker 12 He's constantly frying his brain. He is frying his brain.
He sleeps in the shitty bed. You can see the whole antenna structure here.

Speaker 13 This is the Delta T antenna.

Speaker 12 You can gut it. This is the.
It's just, I can't even see. But it's to nothing.
It's not hurt. It's connected into his speakers.
God knows what it's doing.

Speaker 12 Yep, no idea. I mean, frequencies can have, like, certain sound frequencies definitely can have an effect on your brain.
Yeah. But I know not all of them.

Speaker 12 I I know that we disprove that radio waves don't really do anything to you, but I feel like if you're covered in them,

Speaker 12 it can't be that good. It's a different type of white noise.
Aren't you supposed to not be under power lines? Is that bad for you? No, you're not supposed to. Not directly underneath.

Speaker 12 I don't think anything is supposed to be that humming, that loud that you're supposed to be sleeping under. No.

Speaker 12 If Preston did track the frequency to the abandoned bass, it is quite possible that he and his psychic friend were simply approached by a mentally ill homeless man wandering the grounds, who told them an insane story about monsters and secret government time travel experiments.

Speaker 12 But as you can probably tell from Preston's stories about his life prior to the Montauk project, all the stuff about being friends with Jim Morrison and creating the wall of sound, all that shit, Preston definitely leans towards flights of fancy.

Speaker 12 And when his psychic friend, quote-unquote, confirmed the mentally ill man's story with so-called psychic powers, it was off to the races for Preston.

Speaker 12 Preston soon started wandering around Montauk, kicking up dust, talking to everyone he could find about any weird shit that might have happened.

Speaker 12 Duncan Cameron, meanwhile, who certainly has his own fanciful ways of thinking, he may have caught wind of Preston's investigation.

Speaker 12 Duncan then goes to Preston's house with half a story, but through the process of so-called hypnotic regression, which is notorious for creating false memories, Duncan and Preston were able to yes and each other into creating the entire Montauk Project narrative.

Speaker 12 And you're right, Ed. It is that one guy's fault.
It could be. I think so.
It's possible. It's very possible.
I have, like, obviously I have a cockamame. There's so many different ways.

Speaker 12 We talked about this, like, what's the truth here? What are we seeing?

Speaker 12 The truth is that nothing happened their entire life, and then this guy came, spouted nonsense at them and gave them a purpose for being alive. It's true.

Speaker 12 Or, like, you know, on one level, like the very top top of it, it's all true, which is obviously not. Sure.

Speaker 12 But then I have like a fun middle theory that's like, okay, let's just say during this time period when the intelligence offices were running a mock with black budgets and they could do anything they want.

Speaker 12 Let's say you have a couple of wing nuts, right? Under some farm.

Speaker 12 You're right. We got some guys that decide.

Speaker 12 Let's see what these microwaves do on a bunch of little boys, right? Which is not that far away from what they were doing with MK Ultra. Not that far.
Not that far.

Speaker 12 So it's like, what if at some point they are frying a bunch of, like you're zapping a bunch of people with these rays?

Speaker 12 Preston Nichols said something interesting on a interview with Art Bell that he said that was like, he all is kind of talking, this is early in the story development.

Speaker 12 He said that he, he had a thought that the time travel never worked, that it was all mind control, that all the time travel stuff was an implanted thing in their heads to make them sound insane.

Speaker 12 And that actually what it was, was it was an entire place that was just frying boys. And then eventually, some government guy was like, okay, what's happening here?

Speaker 12 We're doing what here? And then said, get rid of it. Get rid of these fucking idiots.
Make them homeless. Get them out of here.
And then they stumbled back later on. You can't convict me of a crime.

Speaker 12 It's 2137. And you're like, ah, fuck.
We did it too good.

Speaker 12 No matter how the story was created, I do think that Preston Nichols believed that it was real and therefore took the whole thing extremely seriously.

Speaker 12 By July of 1986, he'd assembled a group of investigators who were all on board with discovering the truth behind the Montauk project.

Speaker 12 Once they felt they had a good narrative going, they traveled to Chicago, where Preston gave a lecture to hundreds of people at the U.S.

Speaker 12 Psychotronics Association, which is a non-profit dedicated to studying esoteric, spiritual, and psychic arts because because mainstream science refuses to do so.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because they're fucking weak and they suck. U.S.

Speaker 12 Psychotronics Association, by the way, is still going strong to this day and is currently chaired by a channeler named John Climo, who I'm sure has quite a few opinions on the efficacy of Oregon accumulators.

Speaker 12 I'm going to say this right now, guys. Remember, we just went through a little bit of a ride in the stock market by the dip.
The U.S. Psychotronics Association that stocks on the rise.

Speaker 12 We are trying to make it go public. Buy in.
Time to buy in. Let's go.
Psychic stock going up. Still doing turtlenecks.
Oh, I know. I know.

Speaker 12 But after giving that speech, Preston Nichols had, before long, formed a bit of a montaut crew. He, of course, had Duncan Cameron on board, but Al Belick soon showed up as well.

Speaker 12 And once Duncan and Al got going, they eventually cooked up the time-traveling brothers living in their second body slash live storyline. When the three of them together, it's like, what was that?

Speaker 12 That super group with Willie Nelson jobs.

Speaker 12 Man, it is the highwaymen, dude. They fucking, they just feel that groove, dude.
They all just, one drops a bass, the other one picks up where the other one left off.

Speaker 12 I would say they're more like very talented jazz improv players. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
But with conspiracy theory. Yeah, being fat.

Speaker 12 Ford Hero. That makes so much sense.

Speaker 12 Sandwich. Sandwiches.

Speaker 12 Wow.

Speaker 12 It's a sandwich-based economy.

Speaker 12 Well, from there, the crew hooked up with author Peter Moon, who began doing investigations of his own.

Speaker 12 Now, these men were making some pretty wild claims, so Peter figured it would be good to contact the head of the Montauk Historical Society, a man named Dick White, to see if this man could confirm or deny any of these events.

Speaker 12 This poor, poor man.

Speaker 12 Dick White, hi, nice to meet you. Yep, you guessed it.
The curtains match the drapes.

Speaker 12 A lot of people don't know this. It's actually pink.
Pink is all get out, buddy.

Speaker 12 You won't mistake it. Now, to Peter Moon's credit, he did publish Dick White's incredibly patient responses to his questions.

Speaker 12 Dick said that he didn't recall any out-of-season hurricanes or snowstorms, nor did he ever hear anything about large groups of wild animals running rampant through town.

Speaker 12 Although he did remember one time when a couple of deer crashed into a phone booth. That's crazy, Day, dude.
That was crazy. Ever had venison ravioli? We did.

Speaker 12 Dick White, however, did refer Peter to some other Montauk locals, including the former gardener at Fort Hero.

Speaker 12 The gardener said that sometimes when he was mowing, he would run over pieces of metal that would give, and those pieces of metal would give him electric shocks.

Speaker 12 We kept doing it because it's his job and it's fun.

Speaker 12 They kept saying stuff like, stop running over the metal, you'll get a chunk. And I said, no, this is my favorite time.

Speaker 12 This is where I like to be. I'm one with the grass.

Speaker 12 That guy's smart.

Speaker 12 That guy cutting grass, he gets it. He doesn't need the fucking rat race.
He doesn't need the corporate ladder. He just loves sitting on that mower, hanging out on Long Island.
Get,

Speaker 12 yeah, you're right. I got some Micah here in my water bottle.

Speaker 12 Peter claims that the gardener's electric shocks were evidence of a highly charged electrical field in the vicinity of the base. From what it seems.

Speaker 12 Oh, did you say for a second that he said electric sharks? It's like, oh,

Speaker 12 I don't know what you got into it. Do you think at this point in the fucking game, I'm going to introduce electric sharks?

Speaker 12 I mean, I just.

Speaker 12 I'm much more likely to introduce electric sharts. Ooh.

Speaker 12 Because of the Italians. Yeah.

Speaker 12 It's electric. And they shart a lot.
Yeah, they do because of the fucking... It's gravy.
It's the sunny gravy. That's those electric sharts.
They are in a Montauk chair.

Speaker 12 From what it seems like, Peter put far more stock into the gardener's claims than in what the head of the Montauk Historical Society had to say.

Speaker 12 That was more the direction Peter Moon went in when they started writing the books. Yeah, buddy.
Yeah, the guy's a fucking

Speaker 12 Mr. Penis White is fucking a bummer.
This guy is a fucking, that gardener knows what's going on.

Speaker 12 Now, despite very brief moments. Oh, he's taking his overalls off and getting put him back on.
You've got to put your overalls on before we talk to the guy. All right, we've seen you.

Speaker 12 We've seen you dingleberries.

Speaker 12 Now, despite very brief moments of clarity, Peter Moon still went along with all the absolutely insane shit that Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron claimed.

Speaker 12 And eventually, they wrote five books on the subject of the Montauk Project. And my God, there is so much we did not talk about.

Speaker 12 That is serious. There's so much more Montauk Project DLC that we have not been, we can't include.
There's like the acid cabin. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the acid cabin.

Speaker 12 There's this whole thing with this guy that says that he was a Montauk boy who was sent back in time to assassinate Jesus Christ so he could get Jesus's blood, so they could fucking mix the blood with Duncan Cameron's blood and put it on the Shroud of Turin so they could prove that Duncan Cameron was the fucking savior.

Speaker 12 But Duncan Cameron was also the antichrist because Duncan Cameron was also friends with Aleister Crowley in a previous letter. I'm talking about the money.

Speaker 12 The Aleister Crowley stuff we haven't even gotten into. They also claimed Timothy Leary was there.
Oh, yeah. They also claimed Timothy Leary.

Speaker 12 There's also, we never touched the nine rulers of the White Lodge. Yeah.
That's a whole thing here that we could touch. No, this universe is, they exited, yeah, five books.

Speaker 12 Like, it's a massive, massive universe. And the more they wrote, the less sense it makes.
This is the show that it should have been. Yeah.

Speaker 12 I understand why they didn't do Stranger Things this way because of all the sexual assault that would have needed to be portrayed.

Speaker 12 But I think that the rest of it could have been way interesting if they did it that way. Because what are they? The mentors?

Speaker 12 What was the monsters from Stranger Things? Demigorgans. Yeah, so the Demi Gorgons are kind of like the

Speaker 12 beast. Yeah.

Speaker 12 What was it called? The Upside Down where they went? Yeah, the Upside Down. What was the one in Get Out?

Speaker 12 The Undergrounds?

Speaker 12 The sinking place? Yes, the Sunking Place.

Speaker 12 Yeah, yeah. It's all the same.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's all Montauk project type shit.

Speaker 12 Well, as far as Preston Nichols went, he claimed that all of his memories about the Montauk project returned in 1990 when he accidentally electrocuted himself while constructing a Delta T antenna on the roof of his science laboratory.

Speaker 12 Can you please pronounce it correctly?

Speaker 12 Delta T antenna. Antenna.
Antenna. Excuse me.
Delta T antennor. So this is all from brain damage.

Speaker 12 No,

Speaker 12 it put him on a different time track. It helped his brain be that way.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 But once the whole story was out there, Preston claimed that he spent the latter years of his life finding and deprogramming all the Montauk boys who were scattered to the winds when Duncan Cameron's mind monster destroyed the lab and shut the whole thing down.

Speaker 12 But I had to find a sunken pirate ship, and it was like a whole thing where they were trying to save the house, and then I went down there and they were finding all the treasure, and there was the Asian kid with all the technology, and then there was a fat kid who was kind of funny.

Speaker 12 And I loved that. I love those Montauk boys.

Speaker 12 Well, there they are now. Hey, you guys!

Speaker 12 Preston also claimed that because he insisted on telling the truth, he was spied on for years by invisible men hanging out in his yard. You see that guy over there? You see that guy over there? Nah.

Speaker 12 Exactly.

Speaker 12 But he knew that these were Montauk people because Montauk boys were sometimes given invisibility suits that were capable of shifting into alternate realities.

Speaker 12 For me, that's like the fucking breaking point.

Speaker 12 Can you just imagine giving a Montauk boy an invisibility suit? He'd just be in the girl's bathroom. Yeah, just constantly.
He wouldn't move. He wouldn't leave.
He would just go. It was just a.

Speaker 12 What if good fun?

Speaker 12 You're just naked. You're like, I'm wearing my invisibility.

Speaker 12 It's just me.

Speaker 12 Hey, I'm not naked. Get that Montauk boy out of there.
That naked Montauk boy made criminals out of all of us. He's not naked.
He's wearing an invisibility suit. I can see his invisibility dick.

Speaker 12 Oh, I get it. The suit's invisible.

Speaker 12 Not me. Don't prank, guys.
Don't prank. It's funny.

Speaker 12 Now, the entire Montauk crew, including Preston Nichols, Peter Moon, Al Belick, and Duncan Cameron, they all took a trip out to Camp Hero in 1995 and claimed that they still observed the same mind control frequency emanating from the base, despite its official closing in the mid-80s.

Speaker 12 This, along with the

Speaker 12 invisible boys in Preston Nichols' front yard. You can't even see him.
That's the worst part. You never know when you're there.

Speaker 12 And all of a sudden, you're jerking off, and you look over there, and the boy appears, and then all of a sudden, oh, I'm a problem. And he's laughing and laughing.

Speaker 12 He's like, oh, it's funny how you come. It's funny how you come.
And I don't, it's not funny how I come. I'm an adult.

Speaker 12 They don't come. Remember? They're gooners.
Oh, but not anymore, everybody.

Speaker 12 That's what I'm saying. Oh, my God.
I am tired. It's all coming together.
It always comes together at the end.

Speaker 12 Can I actually play a bit of my research? The example of what it was like when they went back. Please.

Speaker 12 So he wanted he took one of what he said one of the most famous psychics from Long Island to the Montauk base.

Speaker 12 And this was her reaction that shows that, matter of fact, it was all real and it's continuing to happen.

Speaker 15 I feel like I smell urine and

Speaker 15 defecation

Speaker 15 and I feel pain.

Speaker 15 I feel like

Speaker 15 they don't help helplessness, like they're so returned.

Speaker 15 It's very emotional for me because I feel that

Speaker 15 those that have given their lives,

Speaker 15 you know, why did they give their life?

Speaker 12 What was the reason for

Speaker 15 this madness? What madness when they've been caught up with what is this?

Speaker 12 People talk about. Cut this fucking rambling shape.

Speaker 12 That lady looks like my fucking aunt. Yeah, she does.

Speaker 12 Also, she might be smelling and feeling all that because people are most people might feel.

Speaker 12 It's a really good squatting location.

Speaker 12 Awesome squat. Yeah, yeah, perfect squat.

Speaker 12 Of course you smell fucking urine. Because it knows this whole thing.

Speaker 12 I smell

Speaker 12 gift.

Speaker 12 I feel the sadness.

Speaker 12 Horrible. You also miss a lot of that.
You miss a oh, that's horrible.

Speaker 12 Oh, horrible in here.

Speaker 12 Powerful.

Speaker 12 Ultimately, I personally think that the Montauk Project conspiracy exists and persists for the same reason that similar conspiracies like QAnon gained so much traction.

Speaker 12 And it all comes down to participation.

Speaker 12 See, the Montauk Project narrative allowed Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron and Al Bielik to be heroes, main characters, in a science fiction epic that was able to fuse itself into real-world events quite easily due to its open-ended nature.

Speaker 12 Once Preston and Duncan started telling their story in public, though, saying that their minds had been wiped and that they'd recovered their memories, they opened the door for anyone to claim that they were also a part of the Montauk project.

Speaker 12 And more often than not, the people claiming participation weren't exactly living exciting lives.

Speaker 12 These people all began feeding each other's stories and building the narrative out into every corner they could find if they felt it could explain something that didn't make sense or wasn't fair.

Speaker 12 And as such, whether it was intentional or not, I think that the Montauk Project served as the blueprint for the participational collage conspiracies of the internet age.

Speaker 12 The Montauk Project is the original collage conspiracy.

Speaker 12 See, when it comes to conspiracies like this, while the creators certainly get the ball rolling, it's the public that picks these conspiracies up and turns them into a far larger narrative.

Speaker 12 Ultimately, though, while these things start off as nothing more than fantasies, they eventually get built into something entirely different.

Speaker 12 And sometimes those conspiracies, with no grounding in the truth, can have dire consequences in the real world.

Speaker 12 Due to just how incredibly connected our world is these days, though, there's nary a corner on earth that doesn't have to deal with the consequences of these modern conspiracies.

Speaker 12 And I think a lot of this can be traced back to two idiots in Long Island who just wanted their lives to be a lot more exciting than they really were.

Speaker 12 I think that that's also a common problem across the board. Yeah.
People want it. People want to be a part of these giant plot lines.
No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 The Montauk Project is like, it is the blueprint for the world that we're living in now. And it feels good.
It feels good to be included. included.
It feels good to have purpose.

Speaker 12 And stuff like this, this was in the way, it was also different too, because back then, information did travel more slowly.

Speaker 12 You had to go actively search this out.

Speaker 12 This would not fall on your lap. If you wanted this dumb shit.

Speaker 12 like we love, if you believed in this stuff, you would have had to go like the original tape I saw was in a guy's house with them talking. Like this is before cons and before all the stuff.

Speaker 12 well, there were cons back then. Because

Speaker 12 you can maybe find something like this at a gun show. Yes, but it would take you going to a place,

Speaker 12 searching it out. Now it's just there.
So this mostly, I think Montauk originally really worked on the fact that they couldn't immediately check.

Speaker 12 You're dealing with people and you're saying a bunch of fake stuff necessarily or stuff that they can't check on in the moment. And then you can blow right past it.

Speaker 12 Well, it's like I was saying in the first episode about all of his claims about being in the music business.

Speaker 12 It's like in 1992, it's like, I can't see, I can't easily, I couldn't, in 1992, you know how long it would take me to see who played the drums on Big Girls Don't Cry? Like,

Speaker 12 if I ever find it, it's a single week. Yeah,

Speaker 12 you have to call the library. You have to do all this stuff.
Yeah, and here it's tech, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, I'm fucking done. Yeah.
Oh, and there is, wow, Rob just put up a picture.

Speaker 12 It shows that his picture from his social media avatar has the control tower of the Montauk project in its background. It's the stage irrelevant.

Speaker 12 Finally,

Speaker 12 you know, and your father told us some good stories. Your father visited the studio today and he told us about the missiles going out to Long Island.
Oh, yeah. He's exactly as I wanted him to be.

Speaker 12 Exactly as I needed him to be. Now, I reconnected with my Montauk person, my connection over there, and he said that he'd never heard of boys going missing before during the 60s and 70s.

Speaker 12 But there is, in fact, a giant bunker out there. There is.
Because his father was stationed there when he was older.

Speaker 12 There is a giant army base there. There's an army base there.
We just don't, we don't, maybe we don't know what it did.

Speaker 12 Well, the bunk, he said, he said that the bunker was there kind of as like a nuclear fallout shelter.

Speaker 12 And we didn't even get into all the, we didn't even get into all the animal biohacking that came from because, again, that's what Preston Nichols was the one thing that he said he was forbidden to talk about.

Speaker 12 Was the animal biohacking? Yes, which is where the monster master comes from. Time travel.
No. But changing animals to look like different animals.

Speaker 12 The biological edge of the experimentation was super secret. So it was like Dr.
Moreau shit. Yeah.
Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 12 And that some people, of course, connect that to the Montauk Monster, the thing that washed up on shore in, what, like 2012? Oh, yeah. Something like that.
And it was awesome. Yeah,

Speaker 12 it was really fun. It's a raccoon.
Yeah, it is. But guys.
I think that this is still my favorite conspiracy theory because it was back when this shit was fun. It was fun as hell.

Speaker 12 And I wish boys could time travel. Yeah, I wish boys could time travel too.
And I was, and this is actually, this was pretty incredible.

Speaker 12 Like, only like a scotch of anti-Semitism and racism in this one. Yeah.
A little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 12 It just proves that they just can't help it.

Speaker 12 It had no matter, like, he didn't need to bring it in. He didn't need to tell us that the Draconians were actually Jewish people.
Jewish people. Yeah.
Yeah. And that Asian people are insects.

Speaker 12 He didn't need to say any of that. It wasn't important to the narrative at all.
It probably would have been thicker if the Pope of Judaism, Steven Spielberg, didn't live out there. Maybe would be.

Speaker 12 They're all on the same team on Montauk.

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And then we're going to be in Toronto right after that, but it's sold out. It is.
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Speaker 12 But right after that, I'm going down to Florida for the second half of the Invasive Species tour. And so am I.
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Speaker 12 I'm trying to talk Henry into going to that show, but it doesn't seem like it's likely. We'll see what happens.
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Speaker 12 Yeah, come back to the Pacific Northwest. We're going to Portland.
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Come check it out. It's going to be fucking wild.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 12 I've learned nothing and everything.

Speaker 12 I'm just glad I'm a Woodhaven boy that never made it out to the island.

Speaker 12 Hail Sit. Oh, Hail Gein.
Hail Preston Nichols. Yeah, he created a nice story.
You know, it's funny. Except for the Jewish thing.
Yeah, I mean, everyone slips up a little bit.

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