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Speaker 1 Welcome to Love It or Leave It Live at Dynasty Typewriter.

Speaker 1 We've got a great show for you tonight. Timothy Simons is here.

Speaker 1 Pat Regan is here.

Speaker 1 Haley Kyoko is here.

Speaker 1 A lesbian, a first for our show. No, I don't think that's right.

Speaker 1 This is our Thanksgiving episode, so all night we're going to trot out some truth, stuff ourselves with romance, and give our thanks at the traditional wheel, just as the pilgrims did.

Speaker 1 But first, let's get into into it. What a week.

Speaker 1 This week, this was the week that Donald Trump finally became a lame duck president.

Speaker 1 And to show you just how bad things have gotten for him, let me just say that a different way. Trump finally became a differently abled duck.

Speaker 1 Because woke his back.

Speaker 1 Can't stop it.

Speaker 1 It's fine. Here is Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey on Monday with a message for his fellow Republicans.

Speaker 4 I would remind my Republican colleagues who are deciding how to vote, Donald Trump can protect you in red districts right now by giving you an endorsement, but in 2030, he's not going to be the president, and you will have voted to protect pedophiles if you don't vote to release these files.

Speaker 4 The record of this vote will last longer than Donald Trump's presidency.

Speaker 1 But Republicans don't think in years. They live in the moment.
One Nazi group chat scandal at a time.

Speaker 1 It's called being present. They're alive.
Terrible, but alive.

Speaker 1 Republican members of Congress are 100% kids that ate the marshmallow. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Asking Republican politicians to think five years ahead is like trying to convince your dog to drop the raw Thanksgiving turkey it dragged off the countertop because it will give him a tummy ache later.

Speaker 1 This is not

Speaker 1 loud noises and fear is the way you're going to get that turkey back.

Speaker 1 Trump tried his best to keep Republicans in line.

Speaker 1 He brought Colorado Congressman Lauren Boebert in for a meeting in the White House situation room, but couldn't bully her into removing her name from the Epstein petition.

Speaker 1 The congresswoman said her hands were tied. No, wait, I'm sorry.
It says here her hands were tired.

Speaker 1 Trump even lost Marjorie Taylor Greene. First Nicole, yeah, first Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban break up, and now this, all of our hottest blondes are in crisis.

Speaker 1 Wrote Trump, over the past few weeks, despite my creating record achievements for our country, all I see is wacky Marjorie complain, complain, complain, added Trump. And that's my thing.

Speaker 1 Continued the actual president, she has told many people she is upset that I don't return her phone calls anymore. But with 219 congressmen and women, 53 U.S.

Speaker 1 senators, 24 cabinet members, almost 200 countries, and an otherwise normal life to live, I can't take a ranting lunatics call every day.

Speaker 1 Yes, Trump's otherwise normal life of accepting Qatari jets and screaming about the Epstein files while drinking enough Diet Coke to melt a horse skeleton.

Speaker 1 Trump also threatened to support a primary challenge, writing, I understand that wonderful conservative people are thinking about primaring Marjorie in her district of Georgia, that they too are fed up with her and her antics, and if the right person runs, they will have my complete and unyielding support.

Speaker 1 And so Trump raises the question we never thought to ask, is there a worse person in Georgia?

Speaker 1 Green said that Trump's online attacks had set off a wave of threats against her, saying, I am now being contacted by private security firms with warnings for my safety as a hotbed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world, the man I supported and helped get elected.

Speaker 1 Babe, you don't have to apologize to us. We've all been there.
You meet a charming guy. All right, he wines and dines here.
You have the exact same taste in art, which is no art.

Speaker 1 Continued Green, as a Republican who overwhelmingly votes for President Trump's bills and agenda, his aggression against me, which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls, many of whom are paid, is completely shocking to everyone.

Speaker 1 Trump turning on his allies. Shocking, said Mike Pence, reenacting January 6th with Karen and a length of rope and a twisted game that has reignited the fire in their marriage after 40 years.

Speaker 1 By Sunday, Greenan said she received a pipe bomb threat to her construction company's offices, as well as fake pizza deliveries to her home. It's not delivery, it's the proud boys.

Speaker 1 Green also reflected on the broader lesson in all of this in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash.

Speaker 5 We have seen these kinds of attacks or criticism from the president at other people.

Speaker 5 It's not new. And with respect, I haven't heard you speak out about it until it was directed at you.

Speaker 6 Dana, I think that's fair criticism. And I would like to say humbly, humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in the toxic

Speaker 6 politics.

Speaker 6 It's very bad for our country.

Speaker 1 Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but the second annual Crooked Con lineup is shaping up amazing.

Speaker 1 With Green and Trump on the rocks, Maryland Congressman Jamie Raskin suggested that Democrats' tent had room for one more.

Speaker 7 We are a big tent. We must be a huge, vast tent.
I say this is a party that's got room for Marjorie Taylor Greene if she wants to come over.

Speaker 1 We must build a tent so large it is an affront to God.

Speaker 1 Our tent will be so big it contains all possible tents, including itself.

Speaker 1 And Trump's loss of clout hasn't been limited to members of Congress.

Speaker 1 On Tuesday, Indiana Senate Republicans voted to adjourn until January rather than bow to Trump's pressure to draw new congressional maps. That's right.
We can't rig the midterms. We're on break.

Speaker 1 Less maps, more naps. Happy Thanksgiving, Indiana, Republicans.

Speaker 1 Back in Congress, with dozens of House Republicans set to defy him by voting to force the Justice Department to release the Epstein files, Trump abruptly reversed course on Sunday night, which is tricky for him with his weird center of gravity.

Speaker 1 With Trump's tacit approval of the bill, there was a near unanimous vote in the House on Tuesday to pass the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

Speaker 1 The only holdout was a mysterious first-term representative by the name of Epri Jeffstein.

Speaker 1 The Senate unanimously voted to approve the House bill, sending it to Trump's desk, which he then signed.

Speaker 1 And on Wednesday, Attorney General Pam Bondi said that the Justice Department would follow the law and release its Epstein-related files within 30 days.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 So two Jews are sitting by the beach of Miami. What brings you to Florida? asks one.
Oh, my business burned down and we decided to take the insurance money and retire.

Speaker 2 What about you?

Speaker 1 Our family business was destroyed destroyed by a flood, and so we took the insurance money and decided to retire. Huh, said the first old Jew.
How do you start a flood?

Speaker 1 Trump is gonna burn the FBI to the ground.

Speaker 1 Point is, Trump is a lame duck, but the more it looks like his power over Republicans is slipping, the more we'll have to worry about how he deals with feeling cornered and weak.

Speaker 1 It was true after he lost in 2020, and it is true today. Trump is now threatening war with Venezuela after 21 lawless military strikes on boats that have murdered at least 83 people.

Speaker 1 Trump enacted Operation Southern Spear, the largest accumulation of U.S. forces in the Caribbean since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Trump announced that he was deploying two battle carriers, three U.S.

Speaker 1 nuclear submarines, and a whopping 22,000 pages of Epstein files directly into the Caribbean Sea.

Speaker 1 And Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the U.S. would designate Cartel de los Solos in Venezuela as a foreign terrorist organization, making it a crime for anyone in the U.S.

Speaker 1 to provide support to the group. There is a problem.
Cartel de los Soles isn't an actual organization that exists.

Speaker 1 It's a jokey term that Venezuelan journalists used to refer to military officials who take bribes. It's a vague reference to no actual group or structure like Antifa or the Itty Bitty Titty Committee.

Speaker 1 It's not that far from Trump declaring war on a case of the Mondays.

Speaker 1 And he's not just agitating for war. He's seeking refuge in his corrupt dealings with foreign autocrats.

Speaker 1 Here's Trump at the White House with Saudi crown prince and guy who likes to show people as Aston Martin Valkyrie, but can't let anyone see what it actually looks like for him to get in or out of one, Mohammed bin Salman, on Tuesday.

Speaker 8 We've been really good friends for a long period of time. We've always been on the same side of every issue.

Speaker 1 It's super awkward because MBS is clearly Trump's best friend, but Trump is not MBS's best friend.

Speaker 1 When bin Salman was asked about the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, which the CIA concluded he ordered, Trump attacked the reporter for bringing it up.

Speaker 8 You're mentioning somebody somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about.

Speaker 8 Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen, but he knew nothing about it. And we can leave it at that.
You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.

Speaker 1 First of all, things happen.

Speaker 1 One moment, you're alluring a journalist to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to obtain paperwork he needs to get legally married.

Speaker 1 And the next, a team of 15 Saudi operatives, including people with close ties to the Crown Prince, are debating whether it's more suspicious to leave with 10 small duffel bags or three big ones.

Speaker 1 Because things happen.

Speaker 1 Also, embarrass our guest. Bitch, he's not our guest.
He's your guest. And he's not your guest.
He's our country's guest, which makes him our guest.

Speaker 1 So it's your house when it's time to build the ballrooms and do the corrupt real estate deals, but then the cameras are rolling and it's back to being our house again. And you're right.

Speaker 1 A question about Mohammed bin Salman's complicity in the killing of Jamal Khashoggi does cast a pall over your dinner party.

Speaker 1 But it was always going to be tense when you brought the journalist in for the meeting with the infamous journalist murderer. The problem isn't that it's embarrassing to bring it up.

Speaker 1 The problem is that you aren't embarrassed all the other times. And as Trump's political nakedness comes into view, Democrats are making sure the room is as cold as possible.

Speaker 1 Roe Conna helped divide Republicans over Epstein. We won the debate over health care and the shutdown.

Speaker 1 And as Trump threatens to deploy the military to more American cities, six Democratic lawmakers made a video reminding members of America's armed forces that they do not have to obey illegal orders from the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 It's the kind of video you wish you didn't have to make, like a hostage video or an apology for having your wedding at a plantation.

Speaker 1 This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens. Like us, you all swore an oath to protect and defend this Constitution.

Speaker 1 Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear.

Speaker 3 You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Much like Alphabet Alphabet refused to go along with the illegal orders of the wizard, added Jeff Goldblum. The wicked promo campaign is out of fucking control.
How'd he get into this thing?

Speaker 1 The video ends with the phrase, don't give up the ship, a reference to the last words of Captain James Lawrence of the USS Chesapeake, as shared by his dear friend, Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, who kindly omitted his actual last words, owie, owie, owie.

Speaker 1 It's, of course, a statement of fact. Service members must follow lawful orders and refuse unlawful ones.

Speaker 1 Surely Trump knows and appreciates this, and he's not going to say we should kill anybody over it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm sorry. Trump on Thursday went on quite a murderous posting spree describing the video as seditious behavior, punishable by death.

Speaker 1 Each one of these traitors to our country should be arrested and put on trial, Trump said.

Speaker 1 You got it, sir, said Trump's favorite prosecutor, Lindsey Halligan, cracking her knuckles and typing trial into WikiHow.

Speaker 1 Trump also reposted a message encouraging Trump to hang them as George Washington would.

Speaker 1 George Washington was involved with the hanging of one of his bodyguards, Thomas Hickey, for immunity and sedition. And I just want to read Washington's warning about his death.

Speaker 1 He said, in order to avoid these crimes, the most certain method is to keep out the temptation of them, particularly to avoid lewd women who, by the dying confession of this poor criminal, first led him into the practices which ended in his untimely and ignominious death.

Speaker 1 Good advice then, good advice now.

Speaker 1 The senators and members of Congress posted a joint statement in response to Trump's threats, writing, What's most telling is that the president considers it punishable by death for us to restate the law.

Speaker 1 Our service members should know that we have their backs as they fulfill their oath to the Constitution and obligation to follow only lawful orders. Your move, Mr.

Speaker 1 President, that AI video you're dreaming up where a shirtless version of you with rippling abs kicks senators into a giant pit filled with trans immigrants while yelling, This is Sparta, isn't going to generate itself.

Speaker 1 Trump's a joke. He's also a threat.
And both will become more true in the months ahead. Look at what he said at the bipartisan McDonald's Impact Summit.

Speaker 8 Because no matter who you are, everyone loves something at McDonald's. There's always something to have.

Speaker 8 I like the fish.

Speaker 8 I like it.

Speaker 8 You could do a little bit more tartar sauce, so please.

Speaker 1 Seriously.

Speaker 8 I hate when I say, do you have any tartar sauce?

Speaker 8 Do you understand that? Yes, I had. He understands it.

Speaker 1 First,

Speaker 1 you can't choose how you learn you weren't invited to the McDonald's Impact Summit, but every way hurts the same.

Speaker 1 Also, you may love the filet of fish, the fish delight, as Trump calls it, or you may hate it.

Speaker 1 But I can't imagine the flavor engineers at McDonald's figuring out a way to get more tartar sauce onto that

Speaker 2 cursed fucking sandwich.

Speaker 1 That is insane. It's like a baseball-sized scoop of tartar sauce.
If you eat one behind the wheel of your car, you have to get a new car.

Speaker 1 And this sick freak asked for extra, this bottomless well of need. And I just want to say to McDonald's, you do not have to follow this order.

Speaker 1 It is not his McDonald's. It is ours.
Don't give up the ship.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll leave it there.

Speaker 1 Coming up, it's Haley Kyoko, Timothy Simons, and Pat Regan.

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Speaker 1 Please welcome to the stage, the guests of honor at tonight's Comedy Friends Giving. It's the festive Haley Kyoko, the autumnal Timothy Simons, and the cornbread stuffed Pat Regan.

Speaker 1 Which way?

Speaker 1 Come on around.

Speaker 10 Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 I'm so glad that you're here.

Speaker 9 We're so happy to be here on this show.

Speaker 2 Thank you for having us.

Speaker 2 What'd you just say? I said, Haley, thank you for having us. I am saying thank you to Haley for saying thank you for having us.
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 10 Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 And thank you, Pat. Of course.
I'm here to help.

Speaker 3 I haven't said if I'm happy to be here or not.

Speaker 2 We'll find out.

Speaker 3 I'm just going to see how the first like five or six minutes goes and then I'll weigh in.

Speaker 2 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 Hey.

Speaker 1 With Thanksgiving coming up, we thought, what better use of our three

Speaker 1 stars?

Speaker 3 Thank you, one person.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 To help our listeners emotionally prepare for all the shockingly blunt questions that they'll be pempered with over the dinner table in a segment we're calling the turkey of truth.

Speaker 2 You can't handle the truth.

Speaker 1 Here's how it works.

Speaker 1 Here's the turkey of truth.

Speaker 10 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Easy to please.

Speaker 3 The turkey got so many, such a bigger response than when you said stars.

Speaker 1 They're excited to see the egg again because they never know what the egg will bring, but it's a turkey right now. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 6 Stuffed.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 First question. Hey, Timothy, I see you've been sporting a faux hawk lately.
Where'd you get that idea?

Speaker 3 Is that a question that's going to come up at Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3 The honest answer is

Speaker 3 I think I started doing it before Paul Meskel. So everybody calls it the Paul Meskel, but I think they should call it the Tim Simons.

Speaker 3 Paul Meskel would get a much bigger response if here. And I understand that, and that's okay.
But I think I just,

Speaker 3 I asked the person who cuts my hair, I was like, can you, I don't don't exactly know what I mean by this, but can you give me like an elevated methamphetamine?

Speaker 3 And then they did that. And I was like, this is great.
And then somebody wrote a thing about it in GQ.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, really? Wow. They like

Speaker 2 on the carpet

Speaker 3 hairstylist.

Speaker 3 I had no idea this was happening. And then just somebody was like, hey, here's an article about your hair.

Speaker 2 That's unbelievable. Wow, that was a good idea.
I'm going to get the hawk next.

Speaker 2 Do it. Elevated methamphetamine.

Speaker 1 Did you like the reception to it?

Speaker 2 I have, have, yeah.

Speaker 3 They actually said something in an article about my hair that was like,

Speaker 3 like I had never met this person and I was, and it sounded like they were my therapist. They described me so well that I like sent it to my wife and I was like, did you talk to them?

Speaker 2 But how did you know you wanted something so adventurous, like methamphetamine?

Speaker 3 I think I was just kind of sick. This is a very supportive Thanksgiving so far.
I really like this.

Speaker 3 I think it was just I was sick of my hairstyle and just wanted to do it, just was wanting to do something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you know what I always say when I sit down in the chair?

Speaker 3 What do you say?

Speaker 2 Normal gay haircut.

Speaker 2 I say I want a normal gay haircut, make me look like the most normal gay person you can imagine. Works like a charm.
What do you think? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It looks really good. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think a median gay haircut is awesome.

Speaker 2 Totally right down the middle. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Haley.

Speaker 1 Oh, gosh.

Speaker 1 When do you think we'll be getting new music?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 thank you for asking.

Speaker 10 At Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 Soon?

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 10 It's so funny. It's like, as an artist, you do one thing, and then the first thing someone asks is, when are you going to do more? You know what I mean? And so,

Speaker 10 you know.

Speaker 10 But, yeah, soon. Like, maybe next year.

Speaker 2 Maybe next year. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Thank you so much. Thank you.
Thank you for being here on my journey.

Speaker 1 So supportive.

Speaker 10 Thank you.

Speaker 3 I just want to say real quick, I'm really happy to be here.

Speaker 1 We got him. We got him.
We've got him.

Speaker 3 We got it.

Speaker 1 Pat, is there a family member that would genuinely hurt your feelings if they didn't

Speaker 1 consume your work?

Speaker 2 No, most of them I'm like so scared they would consume it.

Speaker 2 Like I

Speaker 2 just because I'm like, you know, I like, um,

Speaker 2 like, because I mentioned the concepts of like concepts dealing with gay sex on my podcast. I'm like, if anyone I'm related to listens to this, I will set myself on fire.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Because I was raised right.

Speaker 2 I was not raised in a barn talking about sex on air. What is so?

Speaker 1 I sometimes,

Speaker 1 I know that the people closest to me can listen to this.

Speaker 2 Few do. But like, I know.

Speaker 2 They could. They could.

Speaker 1 And I know that strangers listen to this. That's great.

Speaker 1 The people that I sometimes, it's the, it's the, um, the medium group, like the kind of acquaintances or people from my life that I don't see or talk to anymore.

Speaker 1 Like that is the thing that sometimes like, oh my God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They could hear this.

Speaker 2 Well, I suffer from a disease where as soon as I start recording my podcast, I, my memory start, my brain stops forming memories. So I don't remember a single thing I say on that thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Random people come up and like mention something I said. I'm like, I would never say that.
That would be humiliating to say. That'd be a humiliating thing to say on your podcast.
But I did say it.

Speaker 2 And now they know it. And they're asking me about it inline for coffee.
Isn't that terrible? People are feeling bad for me, but I'm being like upbeat and stuff.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Don't ever feel bad for me.

Speaker 2 Seriously, you guys.

Speaker 2 Especially with everything I have going on and everything I have coming down the pike. It's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 2 crazy. It's insane.
It's something happening for Pat right now. The framing I'm getting.

Speaker 1 Be Be mad because you're jealous. Don't be sad because he's sad.

Speaker 2 Totally.

Speaker 1 He's not sad.

Speaker 1 If you think he's sad, that's wrong.

Speaker 1 This week, Trump told the McDonald Summit that he wants extra tartar sauce on his filet of fish.

Speaker 1 Do you agree that we shouldn't be ashamed if we like extra sauce? This is a question for anybody.

Speaker 1 Which disgusting thing would you publicly demand if you were president?

Speaker 2 First of all, I will say like this is bipartisan, but like no one should be ashamed of any relationship they have with sauce because, like, we all come in

Speaker 2 sauce is sauce, and it's nature, but it's also nurture. And it's, like, we can't always control how we feel about a sauce, and there's no reason to feel ashamed about it.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, beautiful. Yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm going to very subtly push back on this. Okay.
I think the extra tartar sauce thing is fine. I think that's lower down on my list of things that I would bring up if we were to meet.

Speaker 3 And And I think I broadly agree with you about the sauce.

Speaker 3 But I do think the ketchup on

Speaker 3 the nice steak thing is bad. I think that's bad.

Speaker 2 That he's

Speaker 3 actually does make me upset when I hear about it.

Speaker 2 That is so classist.

Speaker 2 It's classist. It's not classistic.
I'm sorry. I can't be on stage if classism is happening.

Speaker 2 So I may have to leave for the night if classism does continue on stage, especially if it's being recorded and stuff.

Speaker 1 I think that is it is it because he's he's wearing the monocle or i just

Speaker 3 i was going to a live show i needed to wear my monocle that's not that's just what you do people of all socioeconomic statuses need to see out of one eye so

Speaker 1 so i agree with

Speaker 1 that about the sauce um about the ketchup specifically on the steak and i because ketchup you're a bougie motherfucker absolutely you're a classist apparently 100 per first of all yes but like here's my thing about it.

Speaker 1 Ketchup is,

Speaker 1 it is very sweet. It is very salty.
It is very, like, it has, it just like, it's a wall of flavor. And basically, ketchup makes every food kind of like dessert, like a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what the sweet does, just a little bit.

Speaker 2 To me, it's so the opposite. But I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't like ketchup. Just, I'll just say that right now.
I got, I'll tell you something. And you know what? You know what? You come at me with your allegations of classism.

Speaker 1 Raise your hand if you had a McDouble on your way here.

Speaker 1 So you had it.

Speaker 2 Did you have have a McDouble with no ketchup on it?

Speaker 1 I had a McDouble dry. Oh.

Speaker 10 That's tough to hear.

Speaker 1 It's because I'm driving.

Speaker 1 It's because I'm driving. That is a part of it.
But also, I don't need it. I don't need the mustard.
I don't need the ketchup.

Speaker 2 Well, mustard is psychotic.

Speaker 1 Well, it's on there. It's on there.

Speaker 2 Onions.

Speaker 1 Tomato, onions, and pickles. That's it.
That's it. That's all you need.
That's all you need, Haley Kyoko.

Speaker 1 All right. You know what? We're going to kick it up a notch.
Timothy, do you get typecast as a complete prick since you played such a good one on Veep?

Speaker 3 I would, the honest answer is

Speaker 3 no. But the weirdest thing is that the shit that I get asked to audition for is essentially a photocopy of the things that I have done before.

Speaker 3 And all the stuff that I get offered is the stuff that is the exact opposite.

Speaker 3 It's the weirdest thing where it's like, oh, here's like a dickhead that nobody likes that says sexually inappropriate things in an office.

Speaker 3 We're going to need to see you read for that.

Speaker 3 And I'll be like, I don't know what else I can do to prove to you that I can do that.

Speaker 3 And all of the stuff where it's like, oh, this is nothing like anything you've ever done. We've never seen this.
Do you want to just come in and do it?

Speaker 2 Pat.

Speaker 1 You wrote an episode of Nobody Wants This, in which Timothy stars.

Speaker 1 Did he do a good job saying the words he wrote?

Speaker 2 Totally, though I will say I did not

Speaker 2 watch the piece. But

Speaker 2 I will never watch. I couldn't go back for season two because of a different job.
And so I, for some reason, I can't watch shows I work on unless I

Speaker 2 mean unless I know I'm going back for the next season, in which case I hurriedly watched him like a homework assignment the night before the writer's room starts.

Speaker 2 So I would imagine he did because

Speaker 2 he was brought back for the second season and they didn't recast. And there was a lot of talk of like, if that role is not working, we'll definitely just recast for season two.

Speaker 2 And so there was a lot of talk about that.

Speaker 3 When I saw him in the trailer for season two, they invited me on those Zoom calls. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was rude.

Speaker 1 Hollywood is mean.

Speaker 2 Hollywood is brutally.

Speaker 2 We're just joking around. We're just joking around.

Speaker 3 That was a, I was playing up that. Yeah.
I was playing that up for effect.

Speaker 2 And I was lying. I was lying.
I was telling a lie.

Speaker 1 What an interesting person you are, Pat.

Speaker 2 Really? Do you think so?

Speaker 1 You don't watch the things you've worked on.

Speaker 2 Well, because it's a weird, I mean, if you want, to be serious, it's like, it's so weird.

Speaker 2 We just were talking about the fact that we didn't work together because it's like right now in the TV world, it's very rare for writers to be on set. Whereas like in the network days,

Speaker 2 the writers and actors were always working together. So it's a strange thing where it's like your entire life for like 10 to 20 weeks and you put so much of yourself into it.

Speaker 2 And then you completely let it go.

Speaker 2 And then when you see it, it's like this strange feeling where so many hands have touched it since you like since you left it, but your name is on it and it just feels strange for some reason. Huh.

Speaker 2 Do you know what I mean? That makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone's crying.

Speaker 1 Haley, your new book, Where There's Room for Us, is your second romance novel about women being in love with each other.

Speaker 10 Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 1 Sapphic. Sapphic?

Speaker 2 Sapphic. Sapphic.
Sapphic.

Speaker 1 Here's the book.

Speaker 10 There she is.

Speaker 10 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 You also wrote a book called Girls Like Girls.

Speaker 1 I did. There's a theme between the two.

Speaker 10 That's also sapphic.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And girls can fall in love with each other.

Speaker 10 Yes, they can.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 10 If you allow yourself to dream. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's so cool.

Speaker 10 You can be who you want to be.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yes.

Speaker 1 And they're not just sort of.

Speaker 10 And no lesbians die in either books.

Speaker 2 That's cool. Yes.

Speaker 10 It's an absolute phenomenon. Well,

Speaker 3 I haven't read the books yet, but eventually all lesbians will die.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like everybody dies.

Speaker 3 Like eventually they will die.

Speaker 2 I don't agree that lesbians are immortal. I'm sorry, I don't.

Speaker 2 I think they're humans like you and I.

Speaker 2 I don't want it to die. I'm trying to change that.

Speaker 3 I don't want them to die. I'm just saying eventually they will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'll pass.

Speaker 2 They'll pass on.

Speaker 10 Thanks, Tim. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 And they just fall in love with each other in the book.

Speaker 10 Yeah, well, it's inspired my fiancé who you met, Becca, at a soccer game, women's soccer game.

Speaker 2 Woohoo.

Speaker 10 When I met her, she was trying to hook me up with her younger sister because she hadn't dated women at the time. And so she set me up with her younger sister.
Her younger sister bailed.

Speaker 10 So she felt bad for me. So she went instead.
And she didn't look at a blue elephant, but she went instead. And we've been together for seven and a half years.
Wow.

Speaker 10 And so that was the inspiration for me to kind of tell our story through the lens of a period of peace.

Speaker 1 Don't you think it's like we had to go through the born this way phase of like gay rights? Yeah. And it was a great phase and produced some great art.

Speaker 1 But you do hear these stories. It does seem that like the kind of whole born this way moment in our politics was A,

Speaker 1 about more male experience of sexual orientation. And then B, kind of a way to kind of convince people, kind of persuade people to be for it.
But there is something so

Speaker 1 there's something so like bereft in like, you have to support them being gay. They couldn't help it.
And it's like, couldn't help it. Well, that's not an argument for something.

Speaker 1 I mean, I couldn't and wouldn't, but like, still, it's better than couldn't help it.

Speaker 2 And I like that we're past the couldn't help it. Yeah, we're, we're, we're on the right track.

Speaker 1 They got, you got to get them up, gonna get married. They couldn't help it.

Speaker 1 That sucks, you know, and I'm kind of glad we're past that because I do think, especially for women, it is more complicated than that, but that doesn't mean anything less about the relationship.

Speaker 10 Totally. Yeah.
And I, I agree with you. I feel like for me, I didn't really have a lot of that representation growing up.
And like even being like engaged, people were like, when's the wedding?

Speaker 10 What is it going to look like? I was like, well, I grew up not being able to be legally married. So this is an exciting time for me.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Are you currently engaged?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, my God.
Wow. When's the wedding? What's it going to be like?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 Haley, you have a brand new queer romance novel in stores called Where There's Room for Us, as we discussed. Yes.

Speaker 1 Pat and Timothy, you both worked on Netflix's Nobody Wants This, a romantic show about falling in love with Adam Brody, which I did in the early aughts while watching the OC.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I'd like to call upon your collective powers to answer our audience's questions about holiday romance in a segment we're calling, surely somebody wants this.

Speaker 1 Here's how it works. We want to hear your questions about burning love in the season of freezing toes.
Is it better to break up before the holidays or drop the hammer afterwards?

Speaker 1 Is he accused of hiding an engagement ring and a piece of cake or is that simply a disgusting choking hazard?

Speaker 1 if you have a question for our guests please raise your hand and our producer will find you with the microphone

Speaker 2 oh we're opening it up oh my god we're being mobbed we're being mobbed they're storming the stage

Speaker 12 oh god i hope i survived this hi hi hi um okay my question i am here with my girlfriend i'm going to her family's house So this is the second Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 I've been at her family's house.

Speaker 12 Number two. What do you think are the big goals I need to be reaching for the second Thanksgiving, meeting the parents?

Speaker 10 Well, how did the first Thanksgiving, like, where's the at on the meter here?

Speaker 12 I think first Thanksgiving went well. First Thanksgiving went well.

Speaker 12 I can always do better and be better.

Speaker 2 So why is it on you? Wow. Wow.

Speaker 12 I just think that's my job as the guest.

Speaker 2 I'm here to, and as the partner, I'm here to prove my worth every time I. Oh, I don't think you need to prove your worth.
Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 10 I'm being honest.

Speaker 10 You don't need to.

Speaker 10 I don't know your situation. I don't know what the family dynamics are.
So sorry, I just took it.

Speaker 2 No, good. No.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I just, I went.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Here I am.
I'm already in it.

Speaker 10 I don't know the such scenario, but I'm assuming it went well enough to go back.

Speaker 2 No, it went very well. So that's good.
It went well, right?

Speaker 10 I mean, listen, most people don't even get to that step, you know, celebrating Thanksgiving with,

Speaker 10 you know, both families. So I think this is an amazing situation, but I feel like you should just be yourself.
You do not need to prove your worth ever.

Speaker 10 Well, that would be true.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 depending on who it is.

Speaker 10 But if you guys love each other, then like, that's, that's all you need. So I don't know.
You do not need to prove yourself, but you're doing great.

Speaker 2 Number two, let's go.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 what I'll say is if you want to prove yourself.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you should ask me. Sorry.
Pat should have taken this.

Speaker 2 My bad. One thing that happened to me one time was I was dating this by guy and he had just gotten out of like a 10-year relationship with a woman and he was bringing me home.

Speaker 2 His mom was devastated, wouldn't leave her room. And then for like the first three trips.
But then she actually couldn't figure out how to get Disney Plus on her TV, but she was entitled to it.

Speaker 2 And she mentioned it. And then I helped her get Disney Plus on her TV.
And then it literally was like a huge win for like gay rights. Wow.

Speaker 2 So, like, if you can get a streaming service that they were struggling with onto their TV,

Speaker 2 it will be good for you. I promise.
Oh, hi.

Speaker 10 I've heard that people learn from each other's mistakes. So, what's your like worst holiday romance mistake that you made that we could learn from?

Speaker 3 Oh, I uh,

Speaker 3 my college girlfriend, I accidentally told her little brother that Santa Claus wasn't real.

Speaker 3 And the dude, like, looked at me and then just like doe-eyed, looked at his parents. There was like a slow head turn to his parents.

Speaker 3 And I had to make up some shit about like, oh, it's just because he died in my heart, but he's alive.

Speaker 3 And the dad in that family did not like me at all, like to begin with. And I think that was really, that would, i think be the worst thing that i ever did on a

Speaker 2 yeah that's pretty bad i think that's pretty bad yeah can't really top that

Speaker 1 he's gonna dad might be able to he's gonna find out sooner or later i think the parents would have preferred later right for sure i find the like i look as a as a as a jewish person i i find the whole santa thing deeply strange i just i don't i you know i don't i don't begrudge anyone their culture but for me it's like

Speaker 1 why introduce introduce the lie because at some point they find out it's not true. And so it just seems like a strange kind of moment in childhood where you find out everyone's been pretending.

Speaker 1 But it seems like I don't get, I find it strange.

Speaker 3 I absolutely see your point.

Speaker 3 I do think there is something cool about like, oh, shit can just be magical sometimes. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like, like allowing, like, I know magic isn't real, but I love it when a magician comes up and makes a card appear in my hand. And I'm like, holy fuck, magic is real.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 There is like a fun thing about that.

Speaker 2 And you also get gifts in a way where it's like guiltless. You know what I mean? You're like, oh, no one spent money on this.
Like, so like, it's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 2 You're not like, you know how sometimes you'll feel like guilt for getting a gift. Like, you don't have that.
It's just like, this is just free money. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Oh, we have a question that was submitted.

Speaker 1 Should I wait to break up with my partner until after the holidays or just drop the bomb now and get it over with?

Speaker 2 Well, I actually have experience with this as I was once dumped

Speaker 2 on

Speaker 2 Amazon Prime Day.

Speaker 2 I was once dumped on Amazon Prime Day. Wow.
I was dumped on

Speaker 2 Amazon Prime Day. It's like, don't dump someone on a day that's going to happen every year and that they're going to get emails about.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 The body will remember.

Speaker 2 It will, oh, I hate to tell you, it will have kept score. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think, like,

Speaker 2 I actually still think, do it before. I mean, don't do it on.
Don't do it on Christmas.

Speaker 10 I would do it before.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would also do it before.

Speaker 2 Because then you, because then at least they have the thing of like that thing that's so special in life where your life kind of feels like a movie where it's like, you kind of know what role you're playing, where it's like, oh, it's Christmas and I'm dumbed.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's funner than being like, I'm not sure what role I'm in. I think I'm in a relationship, but clearly this person hates me.

Speaker 10 You know what I mean? And you just bought them gifts.

Speaker 2 Totally. Right.
And you can't return them. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's better before.

Speaker 3 When I got engaged, or I guess a few weeks before I got engaged, I bought the ring at this place in downtown Chicago.

Speaker 3 And the woman, right as I was leaving, her advice to me was, oh, don't give this to your beloved on

Speaker 3 her birthday or Christmas because then if it doesn't work out, she can just claim it was a gift for that day.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 And you won't get it back.

Speaker 2 Some of your rings aren't going to work out.

Speaker 3 So anyway, I just wanted to throw that in.

Speaker 2 Did y'all do rings?

Speaker 10 Yeah, we did yeah well i haven't gotten mine yet she's gonna propose to her this year and then she's gonna propose to me uh-huh okay yeah and you don't know when no but it's kind of harder to be second because like i i've learned through this process i'm terrible at like waiting for a surprise yeah so i'm like totally

Speaker 10 like and i'm my cortisol levels are up so i really didn't think this through hell yeah my cortisol levels yeah what are they

Speaker 1 what are they i So there was an article in the New Yorker by a professor who was in a deeply troubling thrupple. And what she said was,

Speaker 1 in her relationship,

Speaker 1 she was romantic, but not considerate. And her partner was considerate, but not romantic.
Oh, wow. And I do think in couples, there's the romantic one and the considerate one.

Speaker 1 Which one do you think you are?

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. And they're both.

Speaker 2 And that is the considerate one.

Speaker 10 I think I would like to think that I am considerate at times.

Speaker 10 And I feel like I was considerate with her. But I would say, when I think of us, she would be the considerate one and also the romantic one.
So I actually don't know what I'm bringing to the table.

Speaker 1 Hey, come on.

Speaker 10 At this point.

Speaker 1 Well, do you like, do you do surprises? Do you like?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 10 So she, she's the surpriser. She's the prankster.
She's the considerator.

Speaker 1 Do you cook?

Speaker 10 I can make like three meals. Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. All right.
All right.

Speaker 10 I really don't know what I offer.

Speaker 1 Stop it.

Speaker 2 Well, no. Listen to your own advice about flirt.

Speaker 10 Well, no, yeah, like I'm worthy, but like I, the considerate and romantic part, I think she gets both of them.

Speaker 2 Interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 10 But I'll think of something that I can offer.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 what do you think, Penny?

Speaker 10 What do you think?

Speaker 2 You offer so much. You offer so much.
Thank you so much. Hilariously funny.

Speaker 2 Gorgeous. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 I think you are considering. I can tell that you are considerate just by chatting.

Speaker 2 Don't make me cry. I can tell you're romantic by how you've been treating me all night.
Oh, my gosh, yeah.

Speaker 10 I have been.

Speaker 2 I have been very romantic to Pat. I've been basically getting forward.

Speaker 10 I have been laughing at all of his jokes.

Speaker 2 It's been

Speaker 2 a little bit really well.

Speaker 2 That is considerate. That was considerate.

Speaker 10 You know what I am? I'm a giver.

Speaker 2 You are a giver. I'm a giver.

Speaker 2 All right, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 It's time

Speaker 1 for a game we're calling Wheelie Wheelie Grateful.

Speaker 1 That's where you spin the wheel and then when it lands on you, you say something, you talk about something you're grateful for. It's as simple as that.

Speaker 1 It's going to be hard for Pat to choose because he has so many wonderful things happening. This is crazy.
And that's so cool about Pat.

Speaker 1 That's something I'm grateful for to be in the presence of someone

Speaker 1 at such an apex.

Speaker 2 At their apex. Yeah.
It's wild to be at my apex. It's wild to be at my apex.

Speaker 1 At the peak.

Speaker 1 At the peak. Let's spin it.

Speaker 2 No, I literally didn't want to go first.

Speaker 2 I literally didn't want to go first, y'all.

Speaker 2 I will say, like, my, you know, I booked, I get my haircut at fellow. And, like, I usually try to get, like, they rank all their people.

Speaker 2 Do you know know about that they rank all their people and i never go under a senior barber three because it can get scary and weird but then i i just needed one really quick senior barber three but i was like you know what there's none available i'm gonna have to go with a senior barber two

Speaker 2 i had this woman as menia who gave me the best haircut i've ever gotten don't like i don't know i'm not these haircuts

Speaker 2 Everyone's like, huh?

Speaker 2 But I just liked it. And she was like, so sweet.
And she was like, truly, I now identify as her being like a mother figure to me. And we spent like an hour, which is too long.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm kind of like in and out, in and out. Like, but with this mania, it just hit different.

Speaker 2 And so I'm grateful for her. I am grateful for her.

Speaker 1 And it's this haircut.

Speaker 2 It is this haircut. Cool.

Speaker 10 Oh, beautiful. Beautiful.

Speaker 2 Because the last one I got weird, it was kind of Tim Coded in that. It was like the last time I went through it.

Speaker 2 I go in last time. I go, I just want a normal gay haircut.
He goes, okay, like, what are you thinking? Something Berlin. I'm like, huh? He goes, Berlin, Berlin.

Speaker 2 He goes, he goes, he starts looking at me. He goes, to me, this is Berlin.
I'm like, why are we negotiating what's Berlin? I'm not saying Berlin. I don't want Berlin.
I'm like, I want a crew cut.

Speaker 2 But as Minia, it wasn't like that. She got it straight away.

Speaker 10 Thank you so much for sharing.

Speaker 1 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 2 Haley, what's something that you're grateful for?

Speaker 10 I don't have anything funny to say. I'm just going to speak from the heart.
Please do.

Speaker 10 I'm grateful for my fiancé.

Speaker 10 I'm grateful for my fans.

Speaker 10 And I'm grateful for the rain.

Speaker 10 We needed rain.

Speaker 2 Totally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that okay? Did we need it? I don't know when we need it or not.

Speaker 2 We always need it. We ever got it.

Speaker 2 We always need it.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay, then great.

Speaker 10 The hills are a little greener, you know. I love, I'm an Aries sign, so I'm a fire.
So anytime, like, there's water around me, I feel at peace. So that's where I'm at right now.

Speaker 1 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 3 God, I've been so nervous about this ever since we started.

Speaker 2 What, you're grateful for?

Speaker 3 Well, no, I feel like I have a lot to be grateful for.

Speaker 3 But kids, I think, are good people, or they're turning into good people.

Speaker 3 Everything broadly, I think, is going okay. Well, not broadly.
I would say most things are in bad.

Speaker 3 But I can think in my little area, I can point to a few things and be like, okay, we're on the right track here.

Speaker 3 But I can't think of anything like super funny. But so like the one thing that I can think of is that like I've I grew up

Speaker 3 in a very small town and I found like movies were always like a big thing for me. It's why I came out here.
I just always loved them. My first job was working in a video store.

Speaker 3 And I one thing that I like really kind of love is and I know we're in the town for it but like the rep scene of movie going like a community that is like coming up around movie going and actually going to movie theaters especially from like younger people who probably grew up where everything was just available at home or like they're developing a love for like a communal experience of going to see these things.

Speaker 3 I think that's really cool. And I think it, I think we, I think broadly, we all miss that.
I think the world is better when we all go to a movie theater, we go to a theater.

Speaker 3 And so I like that there has been like a

Speaker 3 like a return to that in a like a conscious way.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 2 Shit, I'm glad that went over really well. That was really good.
It was really good.

Speaker 1 And I feel like the dome is coming back. It's slow, but their dome may come back.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what's going on with the rest of the ArcLine, but I think it's bullshit that that's just been shuttered for years. It sucks.

Speaker 1 Um, there was somebody uh uh made this point that you should treat going to the movies like you treat going to the gym, which is that like just go once a week because you feel better after every time.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, that's expensive, so is the gym. You do it because you feel good, even if the movie is not that, even if you don't love the movie, it's still a great experience.

Speaker 1 Like, of course, that makes sense. Get out, leave your fucking house, yeah, yeah, yeah, leave your fucking house.

Speaker 1 I agree with that, I like that.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 1 Let's spin it again.

Speaker 2 Again, i wonder who it's gonna be

Speaker 1 it has landed on it has landed on me and i just first want to say that i'm grateful for pat thank you and his show seek treatment thank you which everybody should check out yes thank you and a new season of hacks thank you

Speaker 2 oh someone just yelled shut up

Speaker 1 You know, there's something that's happened this week that reminded me of something that I think it's easy to lose sight of. And I do feel gratitude about it, which is

Speaker 1 we're constantly inundated with the ways in which like democracy itself is weak to the authoritarian impulse that we see in Trump and all the people around it.

Speaker 1 We see kind of cavorting crypto tycoons and other nefarious Trump allies like basically, you know, flouting their corruption right in front of us.

Speaker 1 It feels like our institutions aren't doing their job. And that's all true.

Speaker 1 But I think sometimes in the face of all this, it can be easy to lose sight of what are, I think, two important truths about people

Speaker 1 and what happens when they have governments. One is that authoritarianism always looks stronger than it is and democracy always looks weaker than it is.
And

Speaker 1 what we've seen in just like the past couple of weeks is no matter how much there is a desire for control on the part of someone like Trump and the people around him, no matter how craven are the people willing to go along with it or how ideological are the people who genuinely believe it, people are people and the cracks will show.

Speaker 1 And because it's a system not rooted in collaboration and understanding that human beings are flawed but worthy of dignity and respect and having their judgment heard and being curious about others, because that is not included in how they govern.

Speaker 1 It is weak in the face of those kinds of fissures.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden a fissure fissure will form, and then boom, Trump goes from having near unanimity protecting him from releasing the Epstein files to losing every single person in a single week.

Speaker 1 He goes from talking about flirting with being in office for another term to being fully disregarded by members of his own party and

Speaker 1 someone getting votes by reminding people that he will soon be off the scene. And like that truth, I think, is sometimes easy to overlook.

Speaker 1 And we sometimes, I think, are too bashful and insecure about democracy's strengths and just the fact that America is a giant, complicated, ungovernable group of rebellious people.

Speaker 1 And we are not easily ruled and will not be. And so any time Trump is threatening to deploy the military to our cities, that is scary and that is very bad.

Speaker 1 Or any Trump Trump is abusing his power or corrupting his power or using the pardon power to encourage some of the worst people who have had his back to do more kind of nefarious and dangerous things.

Speaker 1 Like that's all very scary and can have terrible consequences.

Speaker 1 But we have a lot on our side and we shouldn't lose sight of that and we shouldn't be afraid to say unequivocally like that his plan will not work because it won't.

Speaker 1 And I would rather have us saying that with confidence rather than worry that this is going to be thrown in our faces if we ever were to lose. Like what are we afraid of?

Speaker 1 We should just be confident in it. And I think what we've seen the last, just literally the last week, it's going to be hard.
It's going to be bad. There's going to be losses.

Speaker 1 There is going to be terrible things that happen.

Speaker 1 It's not a guarantee, but I just want us to go into the next year, into the midterms and beyond, remembering that we have a lot going for us and we are more powerful than they are.

Speaker 1 And I felt grateful this week to be reminded of that and how the news was unfolding ahead of us.

Speaker 1 And

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