Episode 616: Spooky Games That Will Ruin Your Actual Life Vol.3 With Special Guest Bridget Marquardt from 'Ghost Bunny'

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Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena.
I'm Ash. And I'm Bridget.
And this is a very special Morbid. Yes, we have a Bridget Marquart in the house today.
Did I say that right? You did! I'm not going to lie to you, I was practicing. I was so nervous to say it wrong, because I've said it wrong for years, I'm sorry.
That's okay. And then I listened to Ghostbunny, and I was like, oh, that's so much simpler than I thought.
Yeah, it's just like court, like basketball court. Yeah, that makes sense.
My last name is the same way where it looks a lot scarier and intimidating than it sounds because mine's Urquhart, but it's got like the Q-U-H-A-R-T. So it's like people are like Urquhart.
Yeah. And it's just like, nope, Urquhart.
You're like, no, it's so simple. It's the Q-U's.
It does. It is.
It throws you off. It does.
There's not that many Q's in the world. There isn't.
No. We're rare.
We're rare gemstones, us Q people. And you get extra points in Scrabble for Q, don't you? Oh, you do.
That's worth like 10 points or something. Yeah.
Hell yeah. See? Boom.
Look at us. I know.
We're even worth more. You guys are out there.
All right. So let's get into it.
Your new show is called Ghost Bunny, which I love the title. Oh, it's so good.
And we know it's kind of early. You have six episodes out? Yeah, six episodes.
Yeah, I think so. By the time this comes out, you'll have like 12 out.
But so far, what has been your favorite episode of Ghostbunny to research or record? Oh, gosh. You know what? Every time I do one, it becomes my new favorite.
I'm like, oh, that was so good. I love that one.
I love that guest. I love the stories we talked about.

And then the next week I do another one.

I'm like, oh no, that's my favorite one.

So it's really hard to pick one.

It is hard.

I think one that's special to me is just the very first one.

And it's why I made it the first one.

But I like talking about the ghosts of the Playboy Mansion.

I feel like there's very few people who have experienced that

and can speak about it.

So I had Brian Alea on. He was guest service manager for like, I forget how many years now, 20 something years.
And so he, you know, we were talking about all the different ghost stories there and his experiences, the staff's experiences, and then my own there. That makes sense.
Cause that's like from the 1920s, right? Yeah. It was built in 1927.
It started in 1926, finished in 27. What an era.
Yeah. There's lots of ghosts there, I bet.
Yeah. And I mean, just all the energy that's been through there, all the people and it's the playboy mansion.
So it's not just normal energy either like a hotel or like somebody's house. It's like really heightened energy and expectations and hopes and dreams and like so much yeah that has gone on there that I just feel like it's extra like I feel like you feel it when you're on the property oh I bet yeah I feel like it would be like tangible oh yeah and I wish so bad I could go back I know and like walk around and just feel it and see it go in my old room.
Imagine. And investigate it too.
Yeah, I would. I wish.
I wish. Because to be able to have like, especially now, to be able to have like free reign to just investigate it how you want to.
Yeah. Would be incredible.
Yeah. It's so frustrating.
Well, I mean, back in the day, I had free reign to investigate everywhere and anything I wanted to do. But I wasn't that sophisticated with all my technology yet or my skills because it wasn't really a thing people were doing back I know that's true you were like ahead of that you were really yeah so I had been doing stuff but back then investigating was more like going somewhere in the middle of the night and carrying your camera with you like walking around your pajamas hoping you see something in the hall there wasn't like REM mods and like all like all this other stuff that you could.
I mean, I did, while I was at the mansion, I did start my first kit. So I had like an EMF meter and a couple of things in there, some motion detectors and, but it was very, very basic.
Yeah. So.
That's so cool though. Did you have any like favorite haunted experiences there or something that like really stuck with you? Yeah.
of my biggest things is seeing a full body apparition stop it that's the corner of my eye oh my god where in the mansion do you remember yeah in my room so it was the day that i so my sister and i had gone to north carolina to see my brother in ranger school and um on our way back We stopped in Atlanta to get my dog. I remember this episode.
We had to put Wednesday on your chair. I see that.
We specifically did that. And we got home that night.
It was buffet dinner and a movie. So we did that.
And then we came back up to my room. My sister's dead tired, just wants to go to bed.
But I'm a social person. And my friend Stacy was in there and we're having a glass of wine and we got the TV on and I'm telling her

all about our trip. And the puppy Wednesday is in like a little fenced off area at the end of my

bed sound asleep. Cause that's a big day for her.
Oh, you're exhausted. Totally exhausted.
And I

have all her little things in there, her water, her food, her pad, all her little toys, everything.

And I'm telling Stacy, so I'm sitting on my bed facing this way. Stacy's at the end of the

Thank you. And I have all her little things in there, her water, her food, her pad, all her little toys, everything.
And I'm telling Stacey, so I'm sitting on my bed facing this way. Stacey's at the end of the bed.
My sister's over here trying to like put in earplugs and ignore us. And grumpy.
And then the doorway to my closet, which then goes to my bathroom. There's no entrance or exit in or out of the room from there.
Oh, God. Is right there.
And all of a sudden I see a woman standing in the doorway.

And I went, and I turned to look,

and my sister immediately like put her hands over her head and like started like kind of to cry a little bit.

My sister's a scaredy cat.

And then Stacy is also a scaredy cat,

but she was just like, oh my God, I saw something.

I don't want to know what it was.

I don't want to know what it was. What was it? She was what it was what was it like she was like that you're like all saw it wow and i probably saw the best and i or at least i'm the only one that mit admits to seeing it the best everybody else is like i just want to pretend that just didn't happen you're like i didn't see anything actually yeah let's just go to bed but um it was a woman she a woman.
She had long, dark, kind of stringy hair. She was very pale.
She was a more modern day go. She was wearing like black acid wash jeans and a really oversized white t-shirt.
And she was kind of slumped to one side and she was staring. And I recognize who that person was.
Before I even moved to the mansion, a couple of years before, I had gone there to test for Playmate. And I stayed there for three days.
And I met this woman named Joni. And she was one of the social secretaries.
And we stayed up one night just talking, her and I, really late. And she was like, I know you're going to get it.
Like, I just feel it and everything. Oh, Joni.
And she was was really sweet and I could tell she was very much

the house mother like girls would come in and vent but there was a party going on outside and some of the playmates were working it and one of the girls came in and was like venting to her about some rude guy outside and stuff and so everybody really like liked her a lot and she um when I did when I finally came back to the mansion she wasn't there anymore and I found out she had passed away cancer. And so

I'm pretty sure that was her and I think she was

just coming to see

the When I finally came back to the mansion, she wasn't there anymore, and I found out she had passed away of cancer. And so I'm pretty sure that was her, and I think she was just coming to see the new puppy in the house.
Does that make sense? And to be like, you're here. Yeah.
She was probably like, see, I told you. It was long after I had been there, so I don't think she was necessarily popping in to see me or to confirm that I told you so.
You never know, though. You sat up all night together.
Maybe there was a connection made. Maybe.
It's true. But I definitely think she came to see the new puppy.
I love that. That's so cool.
And it wasn't, other than like feeling the shock of something standing in your doorway, it wasn't like a scary experience. She didn't seem like malevolent.
No, not at all. That's crazy.
How long did it take for you to recognize who it was? Was it instant? It's instant it's out of the corner of your eye and then when you turn it's gone this happens to me anytime i've ever seen a full-bodied apparition it's always like here and then you turn nothing right um so it's sort of just sort of what i saw quickly yeah wow that's crazy and i don't even know that i knew for sure that it was her right that second but I was thinking about it after and I'm like familiar that reminded me of right and then I went down and I told the office what I saw and they were like that's Joni wow and then even when I just did my podcast with Brian the first ghost bunny episode I was like I'm not gonna tell you who I think it is I'm just gonna tell you what I saw and you tell me who you think it is. And so I told him what I just told you guys.
And he goes, that was Joni. Oh, I love that.
To have that much confirmation around it too. Yeah.
Had anybody else ever seen her at the mansion before? No, but here's where there's a little twist. So the OG ghost story of the mansion is that Mrs.
Letts, one of the original owners, haunts the Playboy Mansion. And when I was telling The Office that the office that i saw joni they were like well that's interesting because a lot of people used to tell joni she looked like mrs let's so what do you think it could possibly be mrs let's no because i don't think the real mrs let's would ever be caught dead in jeans and a t-shirt oh yeah that's true very formal social light and from a different era.
But very interesting. Huh.
Yeah, that like two people who looked so similar would end up at the same place. Yeah.
Freaky. I always feel like there's something to do with that.
Yeah. Because you're like, is there some like energy there? Or is there some like reincarnation there happening? You know, like, what is that about? That is interesting.
Yeah. I love that.
So it sounds like you've seen other paranormal things yeah well my very very first paranormal experience that I can recall was a full body apparition really wow and like can you tell us about it like what else happened yeah so um I saved up my babysitting money I was 12 uh bought a Ouija board okay hell yeah first thing I've got to buy so I spooky though. Like I'd always loved ghost stories.
I'd always loved scary movies way before I should be watching that. My parents didn't care.
They're like, whatever. Right.
That's Elena. Yeah.
That's definitely me. Did not care at all.
And I would scare all my cousins by making them stay up and watch these movies with me and stuff. Yep.
Elena made me spooky. Yep.
Yes. So I finally get a Ouija board and I'm making my cousin who's a little bit younger than me play it.
My brother who's really little is sitting next to us like freaking out watching us do this. And at 12 years old, you just don't know that many people that have passed away.
So the one person I did know that we could try and talk to was my great grandfather. He had just passed away not that long before.
So we're playing it. We're asking questions and it's answering and it's moving, but I'm accusing her of doing it.
Of course. And she's accusing me of doing it.
And then we get bored because obviously one of us is moving it. So we put it away.
And well, first, before I go on to the next part, my cousin had these weird X's indented into her leg after we got done playing and she has never recovered from that as far as like mentally she's so freaked out by that something marked her yeah yeah it was just like indents like you pressed on something for too long and i was like was it the game like bored like yeah on your leg but we had it on the floor in between us so it wasn't't like resting on our knees. But she was so freaked out.
Later in the day, we went to the movies and she left the movie to go to the bathroom to take her pants off to see if there were still marks on her leg. I would be freaked out by that.
Yeah. Because she's like, what touched me? Yeah.
To this day, she's still like, I don't even want to talk about it. Like she's so freaked by it.
Because you're like, what was the purpose of that? Yeah. Like why did that have to come back later and it's like depending on how you look at it is it crosses exactly like depending on the angle you look at it so anyway then like a few days later i came home from school and we live way out in the country um you can see a neighbor's house but it's way off and seven and a half acres and so there's nobody around i.
I come home, I come in through the back door, like we always do through the laundry room, go plop down in the living room, probably to watch TV. We'll say do homework, you know, whatever.
And I hear the back door fly open. I'm like, oh, obviously I didn't close it tight.
So I get up, go back to the laundry room, shut the door again, go sit back down. And I hear it fly open again and like hit the side of the house.
And I was like, that's weird. So there must be something wrong with the door.
Go back in there, checking it out, like close it. No, it feels tight.
Look around outside a little bit. Is there anything like weird going on? No.
Shut it. I'm not scared or thinking anything's weird yet.
I love that you're not scared yet. Immediately I'd be crying.
I know. I'd be like intrusion.
Exactly. So I go sit back down and then it flew open again.
And this time I'm like scared. Yeah.
And I was, I got up and I remember just talking like my heart's like being out of my chest and like, obviously there's somebody here or somebody's doing that. So I walk into the laundry room.
There's nobody there. I go out onto the back porch.
I kind of look around. I can't see anybody.
I close the door and I lock it really quick and I'm like pushing on it and it's locked. It's closed.
So I turn around and I start walking out of the laundry room. And when you walk out of the laundry room to my right, it's just a long hallway all the way down to my parents' bedroom at the end.
And as I'm walking out, I see my great-grandfather standing there at the end of the hall.

And then, of course, I turn and look, and it's gone.

But I definitely recognized him and saw what I saw.

And after that, I was tormented for like, I want to say it was probably like two years, maybe even a little bit more of nightmares, feeling like I was being watched, weird things happening, like just all kinds of stuff. So I think whatever it was came from the Ouija board.
And I don't think it was my grandfather at all. I think he just came disguised as him.
That's what I thought too. A trickster.
what Rachel Stavis calls it? A trickster. Yeah, totally.
And my family are not into the paranormal, didn't know anything about all of this kind of stuff and are just tripping out and they didn't know what to do. So half of my family thought I needed to speak to our pastor at our church and the other half of the family thought I need a psychiatrist.
Oh God. So we did both did both.
You're like, thanks, guys. You might as well cover both sides.
Yeah. And I don't think either one of them necessarily helped, except each had kind of a good advice for me.
The pastor, I feel like, did not believe me at all. But he did tell me to keep a diary of everything.
So I started doing that. And I think that's a great idea for anybody who's having experiences.
Because I wish I find that diary now we can't but it would be amazing to go back and read what I was experiencing especially with your podcast now oh my god you could do an entire series just reading that I think so too oh we gotta find it I know let's manifest that it shows itself somewhere yes let's do that and then the um the psychiatrist told me that I should go to his grave and ask him to make it stop. And when I told her that I didn't think it was him, she said it doesn't matter because he might be able to do something from the other side.
Wow. It's that she believed you and actually gave you honest advice.
Or at least gave you real. And that was like, I can't believe how next level you were at that point to be like, that is not my grandfather.
Yeah. of kids might be like oh it's grandpa you know like yeah no because it was not nothing warm and fuzzy it wasn't like a guardian angel it was like scary it tells you that the energy was clearly like really palpable for you to be able to be like no yeah definitely so i did go to his gravesite and i did ask him to make it stop and it did eventually stop.
Did it take a while? It

took a while. Yeah.
Maybe he did what he could. I bet he did.
You know I bet he was like oh. What

is scary first experience and I love that you still dabbled after that. You're like that's fine.

It just intrigued me more and I was more hell-bent on like experiencing this again

like proving to myself that it was real because when you're seeing a psychiatrist about it and

the pastor doesn't believe you and your family is just like we don't know anything about any

Thank you. like proving to myself that it was real.
Because when you're seeing a psychiatrist about it and the pastor doesn't believe you and your family is just like, we don't know anything about any of that kind of stuff, nor do we want to. You're kind of like, wait, am I, so am I crazy then? Like, did I not see that? Like, what? Like, am I just making this up? And that's when you start, like, I really started thinking, did I just make that up for some reason? Yeah, because your brain, your logical brain is trying to convince itself like, no.
Yeah. Because there's no way.
Your brain is like, that can't happen. Yeah.
And it gets worse as you get older. I feel like when you're a kid, you're more like, you're able to combat that part of your brain and be like, no, I saw that.
Because you're more open. I know it.
Yeah. But as you become an adult, it's so much easier to be like, no, I didn't see that.
No, that was fake. I was just tired.
I'm just seeing things because I'm because I'm tired like that's it I used to see so much more when I was younger and now I don't really see anything I feel things for sure yeah but I haven't seen anything since I don't know maybe like the lady who didn't have a body she was just made of bones didn't have a body she was just made of bones yeah she has a theme song she yeah she was one of our earliest episodes ash literally in one of her old apartments when you were how old like i was in kindergarten so i was five or six yeah she saw a woman sounds like the scariest thing you could ever see yeah she used to just sit outside my mom and i it was like a loft apartment so there was like a downstairs and then upstairs was just like a really big bedroom yeah and there was a big a big closet. And then our bed, my mom's bed was here and my bed was like over there, but I never slept in my own bed when I was little.
So I would sleep in my mom's bed and I woke up one night and this woman was sitting there in front of me, just bones. And like she had a face, like her face wasn't a skeleton, but her body was.
And she was just haggard and like had like this, like I think I described it as like cotton candy hair last time we talked about it which horrified me and I don't I think she did used to say things to me but I don't remember what she said yeah I think you I remember you sick because she she brought this up I was a creepy kid so I remember she was little telling me this and I was like that is a nightmare that's awful like I I don't know what to tell you about that but it happened like over and over and over again yeah and it was always the same thing and I

dropped And I was like, that is a nightmare. That's awful.
Like, I don't know what to tell you about that. But it happened like over and over and over again.

Yeah. And it was always the same thing.

And I drive by that apartment sometimes because it's like local to where we are. And I still get weird fucking vibes from that place.
She seemed like she was up to something. I don't like that

Well that just reminded me

like

so I say that

that Ouija board experience

was my first paranormal experience

but

it could

I feel like

it might not have been

my first paranormal experience

but

it could

I feel like

it might not have been

my first one

like I think back to like

my grandma's house

and we used to go up

in the

the guest bedroom

to like

when we'd have family gatherings

and all us girls

we had so many cousins

that were all around the same age

and we'd go upstairs

and we'd like

play games

or we'd like

just talk about everything

or whatever we were doing up there

and I remember

the door

Thank you. We're all the same age.
And we'd go upstairs and we'd like play games or we'd like just talk about everything or whatever we were doing up there. And I remember the door.
And we used to have like a creepy feeling up there. Like it was definitely haunted.
That house is definitely haunted. I don't know for a fact.
But I would be like, if there's somebody here with us, open the door. And it wasn't like totally closed.
It was like sort of open. But we would watch it like slowly start to open.
Oh, wow. So wow that was probably the first one yeah but I never thought about that really as so paranormal I thought about it as more I loved it because I was scaring the crap out of all my cousins and you had like some kind of like Matilda power over the door from the other side right yeah exactly but that's what it is it's like little kids are just like it's not what we as.
Like, it's wild to see how little kids handle things. And they just accept it.
They do. Like, my youngest had a skeleton that she said was in her room.
She called him skeleton. But she had, like, this little accent with it when she would say it.
She'd be like, I saw skeleton last night. And we were like, skeleton? Like, what is that? And she said it.
Like, it almost sounded like French. Yeah, it almost had this like, and she would say, she would do this accent when she would do it.
And I was like, skeleton? I was like, was it a skeleton? Is that what you're saying? She was like, yeah, but he's skeleton. And I was like, okay.
And I was like, is he like nice or is he mean? Does he scare you? And she was like, no, he doesn't scare me. And I was like, okay.
And I asked her, I remember asking her, I was like, where is he? And and she was like in my room and he sits on my bookshelf and just looks at me and i was like okay and i was like what does he do and she goes he does this and just like leaned out like just this little pose yeah looking at her and i was like okay you're not scared and she was like no and i was like all right i feel like the fact that she wasn't scared of him means like he I feel like we know Skelton. Or Skelton was just like a nice guy because she said he'll leave sometimes and come back.
And I was like, do you know where he goes? Because I'm like, tell me everything, girl. What's his lore? Yeah.
What's his lore? Tell me. And she was like, well, he leaves to go see his family.
And then he comes back. That's fascinating.
And I was like, nice of him to see his family. Like, that's very nice.
And I was like, cool. And then one day she said he went to see his famo-y and he didn't come back.
Yeah. And he's never been back.
And I was like, well, that's nice. What a nice ending to Skeleton that he just like went to see his family and stayed there.
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Let's go downstairs. Yeah.
And it's funny because I was saying earlier, like I feel things. And that area of your house, it feels off to me.
You always say there's some kind of vibe down there. Yeah.
It's in the, it's one the guest rooms and I've slept in there before and I have to like watch my laptop like watch TV on my laptop until I fall asleep. I can't just close my eyes and go to sleep in that room.
It's weird because even we're going to be talking about some like creepy paranormal games at some point and I was looking some up last night like looking up more of them and I started to like fall asleep a little on the couch downstairs. And speaking of like seeing things out of the corner of your eye, I see things out of the corner of my eye a lot.
But when I look, it's nothing's there. So I'm always like, am I just like, I'm doing the adult thing.
Like, you know. Oh, I just imagined it.
It's gone. I'm just tired.
And I was falling asleep after researching all these games. So I was like a little on edge already.
And out of the corner of my eye in my hallway something ran by the hallway really to the point where I sat up and was like oh one of the kids is downstairs oh shit and I got up and like literally went into the hallway nothing was in there I went up to the girls room checked on all of them they're all fast asleep and I was like I swear I saw something run by my hallway there's vibes in here I saw a double of Elena once in here yeah that doppelganger yes it was and you did Mikey also saw one I don't know why it's me well I think it's because your energy is like so satiated in here you know but it was freaky the doppelganger thing is so weird to me it freaks me out I haven't experienced that yet but I've heard so many stories about that. Yeah.
It's so weird. It's very unsettling.
I had never experienced it before. And I walked in here.
She was pale. After I saw it, and I was literally pale.
And I was like shaky. You walked in and I was sitting right here and she walked back in from the bathroom.
Well, that's what threw me off. You were sitting right there.
Yeah, I was sitting right here. And I looked over and I was like, are you okay? Like, are you sick? Because she had just come from the bathroom and she was literally like sheet white.
And I was like, oh no, are you sick? And you were like, have you been sitting there the whole time? And I was like, yeah, I'm just sitting here. I was like, you didn't just walk by the bathroom? She's like, no.
And I was like, oh yeah. And you're not wearing a white sweatshirt.
Like I saw you in and it was just like a flash. It was super fast, but it was you because your hair is so standout.
I knew it was you. It was scary.
Those are, yeah, those are interesting. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know what they're all about.
I don't know. I'm good.
But just to back up for a second, the skeleton. Skeleton.
And your skeleton. I think that that's so interesting that you guys both had a skeleton thing because I feel like that's very rare.
I don't hear. I know.
I've heard so many stories on my podcast and stuff. Yeah, right.
That I feel like I haven't heard. Like skeletal.
I haven't heard that before. A skeleton, yeah.
Actually, why did I never put those two pieces together? And my youngest said her skeleton too. I was like, ooh, that makes me think it's like old.
Because she said, I was like, so he's like this like, you know, like white bones. And she was like, no, they're brown.
And she specifically said they're brown. That's like so much more authentic too.
And that's why I was like so he's like this like you know like white bones and she was like no they're brown and she specifically said they're brown that's like so much more authentic too and that's why I was like oh I was like that's like from the earth like you know like been buried and for her to come up with like she was like three or four yeah she wouldn't have known at that point because the only skeleton that she would have seen is like a big toy one which is pure white the classic skeleton and she she's adamant he's he has brown bones and i was like that is weird i don't know

why i never made that correlation yours seemed scarier yeah i mean they definitely seem different

but it's interesting that they're both skeletons yeah how they present yeah it's interesting we

need to like do some research i know we need to look into that more we figure that out yeah i

guess so.

Yeah.

Well, turning, like keeping obviously paranormal, but turning a little bit,

is there somewhere that you haven't investigated yet that you are just like it's on your list that you have to get to?

Girl, my bucket list is so long.

I love it.

I mean, there's so many places.

And then every time I hear about a new one, I'm like, oh, that's going to go to number one.

We've got to shift this around.

Yeah, they're always like everywhere.

I want to go anywhere that's haunted.

Honestly, me too.

Thank you. and then every time I hear about a new one, I'm like, oh, that's going to go to number one.
We've got to shift this around. Yeah, they're always like everywhere.

I want to go anywhere that's haunted.

Honestly, me too.

I mean, Waverly is high on my list.

Me too, it's so high.

I want to go so bad.

I'm dying to go to Waverly.

That would be so fun.

I've had them on my podcast.

They gave me a virtual tour,

like literally walking through with their phone.

Wow.

That was amazing, but like I need to go there.

Yes, in person. And I want to see the creeper.
Oh my yes that's what i'm like dying i'll freak out like that's scary to me like that's way more scary than like seeing a full body apparition or something absolutely freaky i hate that the creeper i can't yeah and i've i've been virtually in the body shoot oh my god with the tour that they gave that they gave me. Oh, my God.
I want to go. I want to go really bad.
That place has to have, like, dark energy. Oh, my God.
Definitely. You must have to, like, wade through the energy in there.
I think so. You have to, like, bushwhack your way through.
Yeah. What other places? There's so many.
I really want to go to the Crescent Hotel. Me, too.
I don't know if i've heard they're actually they're they follow morpheus they're always saying like please come i'm like girls i want to come where is the crescent hotel arkansas arkansas eureka that's not that far yeah let's go i don't even know how far it is to be honest i follow them on tiktok and i'm obsessed with watching there i follow them on instagram i'm like someday i'm going Yes. We ought on Instagram.
They're more. And I'm like, someday I'm going.

Yes.

Add it to the list, yeah.

We got to go to that one.

Have you been to Lizzie Borden?

Yes.

But I didn't spend the night.

I've done the tour twice.

We spent the night twice.

Yeah.

And it's – the energy in there is definitely palpable.

Yeah.

There's something in there.

Like, we felt it for sure.

We actually went with two girls, one ghost both times.

I'm like, if you guys are going to go again, I'll go tell me.

You want to come with us?

I'll fly out here and go.

We will absolutely go again.

That's one place that when you – so the first time we were there, we were there with other people in the house.

Like, we didn't have the house to ourselves.

We got to rent the whole house.

That's what we did the second time.

That's when we went with Corinne and Sabrina. Yeah.
And we just kind of stayed up all night walking around by ourselves. It was so scary.
And it was, none of us would go to the bathroom by ourselves. We were like, you have to stand outside the door.
Like it was, we were sitting in the kitchen at one point, like the dining room area. And we were reading from the guest book where people write their experiences.
And Corinne was reading them out loud. And some of them were like, you know, the ghost was pissed at me.
No, Sabrina was. Was it Sabrina who was reading it? Yeah, because then you and Corinne.
Yeah, because that's what happened. So she's reading it out loud.
And from upstairs, and we have video of it. I need to find it because you can hear the audio.
A woman's voice says something from upstairs. Didn't she say like, is someone down there? She said like, she said like, hello? Or she said like, are you there? Something like that.
And it was a woman's voice so clear. And I was videoing her reading those.
And you can see Corinne and all of our heads went like this. Because you could hear it.
Like clear as day. That's so cool.
And we went through there. No one was there.
But it was the cle clearest voice and you can hear it on that camera. It's scary.
We had like little kids talking to us through the little thing. Like the ghost.
What was it ghost too? Saying like will you play with me? And are you friends? And they said like don't leave. Like they didn't want us to leave.
So that's probably coming from the house next door because you know the house next door. Yeah.
And they say that the kids like to play in that top that like attic area. We were in that area.
Yeah. So the first time that it was just me and Elena that went together like with other people there.
Our room was up there that we were supposed to sleep in. We wouldn't stay in it.
I'm not staying in that room. Like absolutely not.
Ash wouldn't go to sleep. It's the attic one that belonged to the maid.
Yes. Yes.
Oh, yeah. No freaking way.
No. Ash was like, we're staying up all night.
So we sat on the Andrew couch in the living room. And that was better than sleeping.
All night. Every time I would conk out, she'd be like, nope.
I hit her. I was like, okay.
Because I feel like if you're sleeping in places like that, the energy can get to you easier and seep in. I mean, you're vulnerable.
Yes. Have you had that happen? Yeah.
So the Myrtles Plantation, I'd wanted to go there for so long. Yeah.
St. Francisville, Louisiana.
I had read all the books about it, seen little like, I don't know, travel channel documentary things on it. I'm like, I want to go here so bad.
Finally, oh gosh, it was probably seven years ago now. We went for my birthday.
We were going to New Orleans and I was like, we have to just rent a car and go for the day or spend the night, one night there.

And my husband, he's not – well, he's more of a believer now because I've dragged him to so many places that he's had things happen now.

You're like, how can you argue this at this point?

Yeah.

At that time, he was a good sport but not – he's very, very skeptical.

And so I bring all my ghost hunting stuff.

And we're staying in the room. Have you guys ever been there? you covered it on my we covered it on the i want to go and it's on my list yeah so there's one room when you rent it you get this huge room plus you get this whole sitting area upstairs the stairs are yours and the whole entryway is yours so those creepy stairs and the creepy mirror that supposedly haunted all of that is.
And nobody else can come into that part of the house. That's really cool.
We got to do this. So we rented that room.
And so we're downstairs. And I have my kid out.
And he's got the K2 meter over by the mirror. He's being a good sport and everything.
And I'm sitting on the 17th step because a man was shot and died on the 17th step. So I sitting on the 17th step and i have my voice recorder and another k2 meter and i'm like asking questions and like nothing is happening like you know how the k2 meter usually like blips a little bit like green to darker green but it's just like it was just doing nothing and i was like shocking in and of itself yeah because usually it's either yeah it does something so i was like batteries dead? Are things even on? We did that for like an hour and a half.
And finally I was like, I guess nothing's going to happen. So we'll just go to bed.
I was totally disappointed. Yeah, like bummed.
Yeah. Go back to the, go to bed.
And they don't have TVs. I love watching TV at night to go to bed.
Me too. I have in the same way.
So I was like, I'm just sitting there and i'm listening to that no it was loud outside because there were like um frogs chirping in the pond

really loud such a creepy sound that can be unsettling i was just listening to them though

and like just trying to go to sleep listening to that and then all of a sudden they just stopped

pure silence and i felt like the room got super heavy and all of a sudden we could hear like

Thank you. And then all of a sudden, they just stopped.
Pure silence. And I felt like the room got super heavy.
And all of a sudden, we could hear kids running around. And we heard, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, like somebody running up the steps.
Stop it. And we're the only ones that have key to that area.
So I jumped up, and I opened the door. Nothing.
We could hear, like, furniture moving above us. We were on the top floor.
And it was so insane that, like you said about the bathroom, like I had to go pee so bad that I was too scared to go to the bathroom. And it was like three something in the morning.
Of course. The whole time we were like holding on to each other.
And he's like, did you hear that? I'm like, yeah. And then I'd hear something.
Did you just hear that? He's like, yeah, I heard it. We were just like holding on to each other and he's like did you hear that I'm like yeah and then I'd hear something did you just hear that we were just like holding on to each other like freaking out it's scary and that um my voice recorder well I didn't know it was my voice recorder all of a sudden we heard like an electronic noise and we both sat straight up and my k2 meter he had left it sitting on the nightstand next to us and it was lit up all the way to red, and it kept turning off and going to red, turning off, going to red, turning off, going to red, turning off, just freaking out.
And he's like, your K2 meter is making noise. Well, it doesn't make noise.
You're like, what? So you're like, no, it's that. So then later the next morning, I realized that what happened is my voice recorder was laying on the floor over by my suitcase, and that had turned on, but it didn't record anything.
I was so bummed. Of course.
It made that noise. The fact that it turned on, though.
Yeah. What? It was like, we're ready now.
Yeah, like, let's go. And this went on until like four or something, and then all of a sudden, it was just over.
Like, you could feel the whole room lighten up. All of a sudden, it didn't feel scary anymore.
Wow. That is terrifying.
The whole energy changed. And I was like, I still have to pee, and you still have to come with me, though.
You still have to come with me. You're like, I'm still feeling it.
Something about having to pee in those situations that you're like, no. It's those situations where you always have to pee the most, too.
You're like, I really have to go. Oh, all four of us would just, like, walk over to the bathroom and just, like, huddle outside the bathroom for each other because we were like, no.
Even the bathroom is spooky. It is.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it wasn't close. Like you had to, the room was here and then you had to go down this little kind of like creepy hall that was all dark and then into the bathroom.
And with all that happening, no. Yeah.
There was no way I was going to go to the bathroom by myself. No.
And especially when a skeptic, like a healthy skeptic is hearing these things and see, it's like. And they're scared.
Oh, he't deny after that like there's definitely something and he got his hair pulled at the stanley hotel too so he's like okay yeah happens he's like the stanley hotel is so creepy you need to go so badly that's another one i gotta hit i went once and we just went to like bop around we didn't book the tour or anything and even just the energy in there is like weird and dark. Yeah.
You can always feel. Yeah, you would love it.
What's on your guys' list?

Honestly, Waverly yeah is a huge one in myrtles and i want to hit the whaley house too yeah whaley house is one i really want to hit yeah we're talking about the john proctor house oh yeah that's one i think we're gonna try to hit that soon actually oh they're really nice there too and they're encouraging of all the paranormal stuff so they're good yeah that's great yeah because i think we actually are trying to book it yeah I know with them. Oh, they're really nice there too and they're encouraging of all the paranormal stuff.
Oh, that's cool. That's great.
Yeah, because I think we actually are trying to book it right now with them. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we just did the SK Pierce mansion in... It's in Gardner? Gardner, yeah.
It's in Gardner. Massachusetts? Yeah.
Oh, okay. That's a wild one.
Oh, yeah? Yeah, we did the case on the podcast, but there's a lot of stuff that happened in that house. And it's huge.
It's a literal mansion. So there's the basement, the main floor.
And there's like an upstairs and then like another upstairs. It's not even really like an attic.
It's just like a second upstairs. And there's one room.
I forget what they called it. It was the room where like all the guys would like go and play games and stuff and like women weren't allowed billiards room or something like that and that energy they call it the um yeah they call it the r there are oh yes trigger warning yeah somebody may have been raped in that room so they call it yeah and it's got that kind of like dark dark energy vibe in that room like walking in there you're like oh and there's a closet that they said i think somebody was like killed in the closet or something like that or assaulted in some or assaulted and um who went in the i forget who went in the closet it might have been pain because i think his boyfriend pain was with us yeah and he walked in and he like heard something as soon as he walked in there and literally just like bopped right out.
He was like, nope, I'm out. And there was this weird, that's where that like flash of light started.
There would be this weird, it was like a rectangular beam of light that had like dots of light almost. And that's where it first appeared in that room.
It kept showing up on the camera. Yeah.
And it would show up in like different spots. And it would be like over people sometimes or like next to people other times.
See, another thing I have to add to my list now. Yeah.
A place I didn't even know about. You would love that one.
You would love it. Yeah, we won't tell you too much more.
It's got a lot to explore. Have you guys been to like Villisca or anything like that? That's another one on my bucket list.
Actually, that's a very recent one that we, I know Ash is like, no. I'm so on the fence about going there oh i'm like i like teeter between like back and forth between like do i want to go and like do that or do i not want to go because i just feel like the energy there is like oh it must be the heaviest crazy dark like that that one i just need to see the house like i need to because we that's another one we've covered and i went like deep into that one like i got sucked into that case because it's just so horrific and unsolved and it's unsolved like that it drives me crazy like no i need to know who did this yes like who would do this that's the thing there was no seeming like there was no not that there's every reason to murder but like some people come up with reasons yeah and there's for that.
You had a good theory, though. It was like somebody like, wasn't there somebody like on a train or something? There's a railroad theory that like there was a lot of axe murders that happened like on the railway.
On the route. Yeah.
That was one of them. But even that, it's like.
It's not the strongest theory. The children and everything.
And just like the way. And covering their faces and everything.
The brutality of that one. Yeah.
I mean, and it's just like, theory the children and everything and just like the way the covering their faces and the brutality of that one yeah i mean and it's just like you know that house must be wild to see because like there's still evidence of what happened in that house like there's you know it's awful but where he raised the axe and it hit the ceiling like there's still the marks in the ceiling i think that's part of it too bonkers to see like and it would just be very interesting. I don't know if I could spend a night in there.
I don't think I could spend the night.

You could get me to go, but I don't think I could spend a night there. I think maybe I could do,

I could Lizzie board in it and just stay up all night. I'm always down to Lizzie board in it.
I'm

never sleeping at any of our locations that we go to. I feel like the staying overnight increases your chances of experiencing something.
No, that is true. So the further you go into the night, the more it happens.
Well, because the veil gets like thinner and thinner, the closer to three that you get. Yeah.
Not only that, but I feel like whatever's there sort of gets used to your energy a little bit. And starts testing.
Yeah. Gets a little more cuddled.
Boundaries and everything. I feel that way too.
Well, that was like when we went to the Lizzie Borden house, we didn't really experience anything crazy for probably like two hours. Yeah.
And then it got later and later and we started experiencing more. And then it kind of died down a little bit, probably at like four-ish and we were like, all right, we're going to head out.
And we said we were going to head out and started packing up. And it was like, like you said with your story, like this energy just lifted from the room.
And it almost even felt like it got brighter in there.

I think it did.

It definitely did.

The lights kept doing these weird things where it would dim and then it would like turn off.

Yeah.

And then it would pop back on again.

And we were asking them like, do you have motion detectors or something?

Yeah.

We were testing it being like, okay, let's stay out here and see if that turns off without motion.

None of it worked.

Like none of it made sense.

And then we'd just be sitting there and it would just dim off and then flick back on again. And we were all like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, it was weird.
But when we were leaving, it was like they were guiding us out of there. It was crazy.
Yeah, like they turned on. They were like, lights on, get out.
Bye. And don't come back.
Don't let the door hit you. They were like, have we scared you sufficiently? Yeah.
Did you guys experience the cat ghost there? No, and I wanted to. No, they told us about the cat ghost.
Yeah, you were hoping to. I think Sabrina might have.
Sabrina from Two Girls. Oh, yeah.
I think she might have. And I also Oh, wait.
I saw it. Now that I'm thinking about it, remember? No.
I couldn't remember if I'd seen what I had seen. I saw a cat walk across.
Oh, shit. Now I'm remembering it.
I don't know why I didn't remember that at first. We were in Abby's room.
Oh, yeah. The stepmother.
Yeah. And we were standing there listening to, you know, because we had a tour guide come in and give us a quick tour first and then they left.
Shout out to Amber. And Amber, our awesome tour guide, was giving us this like whole spiel about it.
And I was just kind of like looking the room. And out of the corner of my eye, in the doorway, I saw a cat walk around the doorway.
And I remember being like, what was that? And I was like, what? And later she told us there's a ghost cat. And I was like, that was the cat.
Because I think you thought it was a kid or something at first. Because I also saw a kid at some other juncture.
You saw a lot when we went to Lizzie Borden's house. And it was always out of the corner of my eye and I would look and be like am I just like on edge here and that's why I'm seeing

that's how it works yeah it felt too real no it was real I believed you yeah it was scary

I was, ugh.

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Your best skin awaits. You guys want to get even more creeped out and talk about spooky games? Yes.
Okay, do you want to start? Yeah. So I'll start.
And then we need to, so we'll start with these two games. And then we have a game that we can, we're not going to like raise anything paranormal.
We have a funny, would you rather paranormal game to play. Yeah.
Spooky edition. All right.
I'm going to start with this little one. It's a very short one, but I thought it was too, too fun and too scary to not mention it's called the devil face game and so this is a little like bloody mary where you can you need 12 black candles okay so everyone's got those lying around i actually but i don't know if everyone else does i have like an abundance of uh taper candles yeah i have too many many taper candles.
All in black? All different colors.

I have like black, white, and red, I think.

You can do so many rituals right now.

Exactly.

Got it covered.

Yeah.

But you need the 12 black candles.

You need a timekeeping device that will like alert you to a certain time.

We'll have like an alarm on it.

So just your phone.

And you need a bathroom.

I got that.

I have that as well.

And you need a mirror in that bathroom.

Okay.

So just before midnight, you're going to lock yourself in that pitch black bathroom, which I'm already out.

I was going as well. And you need a mirror in that bathroom.
Okay. So just before midnight, you're going to lock yourself in that pitch black bathroom, which I'm already out.
I was going to say, I'm not. Not happening.
And you're going to light all 12 of those black candles. So you're going to have ambiance, some ambient lighting in there.
Be careful. Don't bump into them.
Yeah, it's a fire hazard. So everybody be careful when you do this.
Yes. Stand in front of that mirror.
Close your eyes. And this is where that timekeeping device is important because you're going to set it so that it tells you as soon as midnight strikes.
And as soon as midnight strikes, you're going to open your eyes and in front of you in the mirror is going to be the face of the true devil staring back at you. What happens after that? The world may never know.
I don't know if you just blow out the candles and get the hell out of there and just be like cool I've seen the devil and the devil has seen me and live with that information but I'm not going to be doing this what if this one is just a practical joke and you open your eyes and you see yourself and it's just like somebody trying to do you but you're going to see a warped version of yourself because your eyes aren't going to be adjusted and you're going to have all the candle flickering light. So it's going to look like a weird version of yourself that's going to freak you out and you're going to be like, I am the devil.
It's me. It's going to give you a complex.
It sure is. For sure.
It reminds me of Bloody Mary because did you do Bloody Mary when you were little? I've done it, yes. And I always get so scared.
That one's scary. It is scary.
Because it was never clear never clear what happened. What was supposed to happen.
There was all these different versions. Like, is she going to scratch you? Is she going to kill you? Is she going to try to grab you and bring you in the mirror? Or is she just going to scare the shit out of you? Right.
None of them sounded good to me. You did it though, right? We did do it.
Yeah. Nothing ever really happened.
But you do, it does distort what you see in the mirror by doing all the things, like the pitch black and all that stuff. And you're so focused too.
You always end up seeing something weird because your eyes do distort the reflection in the mirror. Well, and then there's scrying too.
So you're kind of doing this whole scrying thing while you're sitting there doing that. So you never know what you're pulling up.
So you're like, what did I pull up? Yeah.

It's, yeah, that's freaky.

It's scary.

I think I was in like second grade the first time I did Bloody Mary and I got in so much trouble that my mom was like, no, don't be doing that.

No Bloody Mary.

Because I ended up screaming because I was so, because I went through with everything

and then nothing happened, but I was like so scared that I was screaming.

My mom's like, what are you doing?

Well, and it's a, it's a rough game to play because they don't tell you, like you should be closing these things after you open them. Like properly.
And it's like with Bloody Mary, you're just like, all that is, all right, see you later. And it's like, what am I doing here? Just follow me around now.
Like that's what probably happened, you know, when you were 12 with the Ouija board. Yeah.
Because you probably didn't know how to properly like close that. No, it definitely didn't close anything.
And I feel like that's when shit goes awry. Yeah.
Like when it can't be closed. Definitely.
Like everywhere we always leave we're like don't follow us. Stay here.
Like we always do this whole thing. We do a dance.
We like shake everything off of us. Yeah we always shake it out.
Oh that's fun. Yeah.
Shake it all off. We have to.
So that is the devil face game but the next one is a little big. It's a little longer.
It has some more steps to it and this one scares the shit out of me oh no i will not be doing this one so this one is referred to if you go there's a really good website and she also has a very good book um it's the ghost in my machine is the website oh that's where i got my game from yeah and we talked about we talked about her in our last week we did episodes about scary games and we talked about her a lot lucia and uh

she has an amazing book we'll link it in the show notes go buy it because it's so interesting uh but she was the one that i found this out from her website she refers to it as the bath game so this is a japanese game originally or originates from japan um it can also be called the daruma san game and I'm so sorry if I'm pronouncing that like a shitty American.

I apologize.

But it's essentially high stakes tag with a really angry ghost. Oh, I don't run.
So no. Nope.
I'm out. I'm out immediately.
It can also be looked at as deadly, possibly deadly red light, green light with an angry ghost. Oh, God.
Yeah. That sounds like a nightmare.
So here's how you play. You're going to fill a bathtub with water.
Like, you're going to take a bath. Oh, no.
You're going to get naked. You're going to get that bath.
Not naked. Like, you're going to take a bath.
Have yourself a tub. Like, do your thing.
You're going to get in a relaxed state. I like this part.
I like it so far. You know, relaxation, do it all.
But you got to turn off all the lights. No candlelight, nothing.
Pitch black, you have to sit in that. That'd be weird.
No, I would not be able to relax like that. Me neither.
Door's got to be shut. So you're sitting in the pitch black, naked in a tub.
And according to Ghost in My Machine, you should sit so that you are facing the faucet and like the little handles. I do at least sit that way.
And now you're going to close your eyes. It would be very uncomfortable to sit the other way.
Yeah. I was going to say, I feel like you should sit that way.
I don't know your life. I don't know if people like that feeling of that thing in their back.
I don't know. And if you do more power.
Yeah. But this way, sit the uncomfortable way.
It's important. Yeah.
Not for this one. You're going to close your eyes and now you're going to start washing your hair.
In the bath? With your so eyes closed up that hair start going then you're just sitting in your own hair filth you sure are but that's the least of your worries at this point and as you do this you are going to be repeating out loud daruma san fell down over and over and over while you wash your hair you're going to do this like the ritual is happening as you're saying this and as you're washing your hair. You're not going to stop saying that until you are done washing your hair.
And as it's happening, you're going to get an image in your mind of a Japanese woman standing in a tub. Okay.
You will watch behind your own eyes as she slips and falls and she will impale her right eye on a rusty faucet what the fuck and you're gonna watch all this yeah as you're taking a tubby and you're gonna be watching all this impaling your eye with a faucet like think about how big a faucet it is oh get get your tetanus yeah. It's even worse.
So eye, you're out of there. The eye is gone.
And the faucet has that eye now. Okay.
You might actually hear things in the bathroom as this is happening, but you cannot open your eyes. Okay.
So this is all just a mental. You are The mess in your mind.
And you will hear things in the bathroom.

You may even feel movement in the tub with you.

No.

But you are not to open your eyes.

My whole legs just got like a weird shiver in them.

Mine did too.

Mine did too.

I don't like it.

I don't like it.

I'd be out.

I am out.

I'd be out way before then.

As soon as you turned out the lights and I'm sitting in the tub, I'd be like, nope, nope, nope. I'm not playing.
I feel like even after hearing this story, sitting in the tub is going to be less relaxing for me. No closing those eyes on the tub.
I've always had, like, even when I was a kid, like a fear of closing my eyes and washing my hair. Me too.
That something's going to be in the shower with me or something. I'm still that way.
Yeah. I'm still, I cannot do the whole, like, just close your eyes and let it all suds down.
Like, I'm like. yeah no i gotta keep my eyes open because the second i close them something's gonna appear something's coming in the shower and i always rub the fog in the shower too if it's foggy like no i gotta see out i need to be able to see what's going on yeah you're gonna feel some movement in the tub and that's that's no that's a boundary i'm not ready to cross load can't open that eyes and as your eyes are closed as you're feeling the movement hearing the things crying you have to ask her out loud why she fell in the tub which is kind of rude to be honest because the tub is slippery that's self-explanatory people fall for a myriad of ways maybe she doesn't know like why are you asking her that my clumsy ass asking her she'd be like fuck off I'm like everyone falls girl but apparently whatever there's a reason she's not going to tell you that reason but you have to ask it okay so then once you have asked it everything should kind of chill out and then you're going to stand up with your eyes still closed got to keep those eyes closed and you are going to leave the tub with while your eyes are closed so take your time make sure there's a mat down you're not going to slip yeah you have to be very slow, very methodical.
You're going to don't drain the tub. Keep the water in the tub.
Leave through the bathroom door. Close the door behind you.
I still closed. I still closed.
Do not turn on any light. You are going to go to bed like a fucking maniac and just go to sleep.
And apparently naked because you can't see it. Because you didn't dry it.
Going to sleep. That sounds terrible.
You're going to wake up the next

morning and you're going to go about your day like right off the bat, but you are going to feel something the second you wake up. Second you wake up, you're going to feel something with you.
Somebody's going to be following you. Somebody's going to be watching you.
You're going to feel it the whole day. And what you're going to feel is the presence of this woman behind you all day and when you look over your shoulder you're going to get little snippets of glimpses of her and she's going to be terrifying she's going to be missing that eye yeah uh she's got like long dark like really like you know the ring kind of hair yeah like that style uh- that style.
Uh-huh. And she's going to be wet.
Like she's just been in the bathtub. Is she dripping onto you? No, because she can't get that close to you.
That's the point of the game. Oh.
Can't let her touch you. Oh.
Oh, that's where the tag comes in. This is where tag comes in.
I forgot about the tag. Good call.
So you don't want to let her get too close because if she catches you, she's not letting you go. So you just got to keep moving.
So you're going to see her. And once you get glimpses of her, you can't let her get too close.
So you have to yell to her, Tomade, which means stop in Japanese. Whenever you catch a glimpse of her, you have to yell, Tomade.
So do this on a day where you're not going to work. Otherwise, you are going to get in trouble.
There's going to be questions. HR will be contacting you afterwards.
You'll just be screaming random Japanese commands and people are going to be like, do you want to go home? Yeah. Should you see someone? Yeah.
So the whole point is you have to stop her and keep her away from you by midnight. If she is still following you at midnight, you and losing is bad because if you and so you if you look over your right shoulder and you lock eyes with her it's important to lock eyes with her she needs to see you you need to see her i was just gonna say your right eye her left eye that's yes that's where it needs to go so if you see it's fine.
You yell stop. But you need to lock eyes for this eye, for this one to happen.
When you lock that eye, you need to yell kita, which means I cut you. And you need to make a chopping motion with your hand.
And then she will disappear. And that's it.
If you lock eye and yell kita and chop in the air, she should disappear you did it right if you did it to alteplan you win what a life experience you get to take that with you forever good job you're crazy if you lose because she will try to hide from you like when she sees that you are trying to lock eyes and say kita she will try to the away. The thought of this woman dodging me is horrifying.
If she manages to hide from you until midnight, you better skip the planet because it's not going to be good. On to the next one, babe.
Midnight hits. You have now given her permission to come into your dreams.
And she can catch you. Now she's become Freddy Krueger.
And that you can't't do anything about that. And she just lives in your dreams forever? And then she'll somehow get you in your dreams.
She can kill you through them? And you'll die. Fuck.
Oh, and stay out of water. In dark places.
If you go into water in dark places, she can get you quicker. Yeah.
What? Yeah. She's nimble.
Or just not play this game. Don't play it.
Or don't play it. Yeah, there you go.
I recommend. The moral of the story.
I recommend not playing this game. Yeah, I also recommend.
I second that recommendation. It's very high stakes tag.
It is. Very high stakes.
It's so weird that you picked that game because mine is a little bit taggy too. Ooh.
Yeah. Well, that scares me.
I don't like, I get like, I'm one of those anxious people in tag where I'm like, oh God, just hit me. Okay.
Like, I hate it. Like, I don't like being chased.
So I'm like, ah. It's like, that's in the haunted house.
Elena and I always walk through like this and I'm like, we need to not do that. Because like instinct makes you want to hit someone.
Yeah. I'm just like always in punch position.
Like, I'm going to hit you. But yeah, I would do that too.
And then I'd hit the looky looky girl or the, what was her name? Darunasan. I don't even want to say it.
I'm too scared.

Yeah.

But I would hit her and then, oof, it'd be bad.

Daruma-san.

Yeah.

That is the name.

And I guess apparently usually these figures, there's like Daruma-san dolls that are good luck.

Oh, they're good luck.

But this is a whole different take on it.

Yeah.

Because you're entering her world.

I guess the doll's just entering your world.

You're summoning her.

Yeah.

Don't summon things.

Don't summon her.

I don't for some reason. I pictured it in some random bathroom that I've never been in.
That's funny. Yeah.
You guys got to tell us, listeners, what did you picture? Yeah. I'm interested to see like how people process stories like that.
Yeah. And I never take a bath in that particular bathroom, so.
Yeah, I pictured the bathroom where I take a bath. Because I'm a shower girlie.
I'm both. If I do a bath, then I shower after.
Ah. You gotta.
You gotta. Or else own soup.
But that's a story for another day. That's another scary story.
Yeah, that's another one. Exactly.
So I have the Looky Looky game. Hate it already.
Which is also known as the Look Seaman game. It's very scary.
So this game is when you have to play alone, which already makes it very and to play you need uh one candle matches or lighter uh white paint and a tool to apply that white paint i got all that something to keep time like your phone or stopwatch kind of like an alarm like you were saying an indoor location where you can play and somewhere inside of that location needs to have a room with no windows where you can shut a door behind you.

So you're not going to start until it's dark out. We need to do this at dusk.

And once it's dark out, you're going to walk around wherever you're playing and you're going to count every single window within that space. And you need to be super, super careful not to

miss any windows. I would suck at this because I miscount things all the time.
I'd just be too

much pressure. Yeah, I'd be too scared.
So once you're confident that you've counted correctly,

You're a fan. to miss any windows.
I would suck at this because I miscount things all the time. I'd just be too much pressure.
Yeah, I'd be too scared. So once you're confident that you've counted correctly, you're then going to walk around and use your white paint to draw an eye onto every single window.
Like an eyeball. Not in my house.
Yeah, no, don't you draw an eye on my window. Yeah.
And you need to do it on every single window. It needs to be a large eye.
You want to double check.

Make sure you don't miss a window because if you miss a window, you automatically lose the game.

I need you to quickly picture getting up to get like a midnight snack or something.

And you just like look out your window and you see your neighbor just drawing eyes.

Oh, my God. You're like, I know they're playing the looky look game.

Now you'll know.

They're summoning a demon.

That's so fun.

That's crazy.

I think I'm going to go somewhere else tonight. Like, wow.
Kids want to stay Like, wow. I wonder if they'll make it to the barbecue this weekend.
Crazy. The block party's going to be crazy.
Good luck. Yeah.
So, like I said, if you miss a window, you automatically lose. And we'll talk about what happens if you lose at the end.
You know what I always do, too? I always go, but does that qualify as a window? Or is that wrong? Yes. Like, I always think you're like, is that door a door a window yeah it's like those things where you're not a robot like how many stoplights i'm like well there's a little square like part of it in here does that care is that i found this game on ghost in my machine and it said like like you know how like windows will be split into panes like you don't have to do each pane but you have to do each okay so they get a so they get a little more specific.
They do. Yes.
I'm glad you said that.

Yeah, I need to know those things.

And like I was thinking too, like even like your garage windows, like how they have the

little ones.

Oh, yeah.

You got to get those too.

Oh, shit.

Any window that you think is a window, count it, eyeball it.

Too much work.

Yeah, honestly.

What a way to live to summon a demon like this.

But once every window is adorned with that huge white eye, you're going to go around

and shut every single light off in your playing space. You're going to grab your candles, your matches and your lighter, whatever you're going to keep the time with.
And you're going to head to the room where there's no windows. And you're going to walk into that room and close the door behind you and wait.
And you're going to wait until the clock hits midnight. And then at that very minute, not any minute before, not one minute after stroke of midnight, you have to light your candle and you have to say out loud, looky, looky, come and see.
Looky, looky, you won't find me. And you have to say this aloud three times for it to work.
And you have to make sure that candle's lit at exactly midnight. Then you have to leave your windowless space and move throughout where you're playing continuously.
Like you can't really stop for too long because now the looky, looky man is looking for you through the windows. Fuck that.
And if you think he might catch you, you can move somewhere to hide. But you can't stay in one spot too long because that's just asking to get caught.
And all this time that you're moving throughout the house, you can't let your candle go out. No.
If it goes out, you lose. This reminds me of, is it the Midnight Man? Yes.
It's very similar. Vibes? Mm-hmm.
Not without, there's no eyes in that one. There's no eyes.
There's eyes in this. We're not even done with the eyes.
So after six hours or when the sun comes up, whichever happens first, you're finished and you can blow out your candle. And they say, when he leaves, the looky, looky man, you're going to know and you'll feel different.
Like some kind of feeling will wash over you. That's because you've just won the game and now you have the gift of seeing into the future.
Oh, shit. Well, at least this one has a real reward to it.
Kind of. Not just bragging rights.
Nobody's sure like if it lasts forever or how far into this future you see or if you see good future things. Yeah, I was just going to say maybe you see negative things.
Right. That would be.
Then you go cuckoo. Yeah.
But at least you didn't die. Yeah.
But you lose at any point the looky looky man rips you out of your playing space drags you back to his lair rips your eyeballs out eats them and then leaves you there to die so the risk reward is disproportionate And then at the end, I just wrote XOXOXO. Gossip girl.
XOXO.

Looky, looky, man.

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See, I have a fear of like when I'm walking around and like, I don't know how hot it gets here at night, but sometimes it's really hot in California at night. We leave the windows open and I always feel like there's people like, or not people, but like somebody like looking in or something.
Like I always get that sensation of like, am I being watched right now? Is somebody like peeking in the window? And especially in the dark. In the dark.
Yeah, when it's nighttime outside. Oh, daytime, no big deal.
But at nighttime, like, because they can see in, but they can't see out. And that's the worst.
You're just seeing your reflection. We have a slider door and we need to get curtains for it so badly because anytime I look out the slider door at night, I'm like what if something's staring at me and I have no idea? And you're just like...
What if you're looking at it and you see your reflection and you see something behind you? I hate that. I don't like that at all.
That'd be absolutely terrible. These kind of games where's like, shut all the lights off in your house and summon a demon and then try to outrun that demon for a few hours.
I'm like, who the fuck is doing that? You know what? You know who's doing that? And I was thinking about it when I was preparing this. Kids.
Kids at sleepovers are doing this. Yeah.
And I'm going to scare the shit out of my kids because if my kids bring a demon into my house someday, I'm going to be so mad. I'll be displeased Because I've tried really hard not to bring any kind of shit into my house.
Even if we record at my house and we talk about something spooky, I Palo Santo the shit out of that room whenever one leaves. Kids will bring demons into your house.
Oh, a Ouija board in my house. I'm like very anti-Ouija board.
Oh, you're anti-Ouija board. I won't play.
It's just too much for me. Oh, the day I see my kid bringing a ouija board into the house i loved ouija boards oh i'm yeeting that thing out the window no see i i swore them off after my experience for a really long time but then i was at this place one time and they had a ouija board sitting out and i was like oh do you play the ouija board and she's like oh no it's more out for decoration i mean sometimes we use it but it's more decoration and she's like why are you afraid of them and I was like yeah I had like a thing and I don't really you know deal with them at all and she was like it's no different than wait you use like the pendulum you'll use the dousing rods you'll use the voice recorder you're communicating what's the difference Sabrina literally just said that to me our friend Sabrina was here and I was using the pendulum she's like and you won't do a ouija board she was like it's the same thing it feels different and there's not but it sort of is because there's not really like steps to closing out the pendulum like i've never i think there is i've never i think you can close out a pendulum session i'm sure you can but like i feel like nobody ever stresses the importance of it people like really heavily stress the importance of closing out the ouija board game and i'm not good at steps so I feel like I'm sure you can, but I feel like nobody ever stresses the importance of it.
People really heavily stress the importance of closing out the Ouija board game, and I'm not good at steps, so I feel like I'm going to miss one, and I'll just fuck up my wife. I think you would love it if you did it.
It would blow your mind. Well, I went and bought one.
Hell yeah. I'm back in the Ouija board club.
The problem with the Ouija board for me is that it's too slow. Really? I know it is.
I would rather. You need patience for it.
Yeah, like, oh my God, we have to sit here and spell out everything I'm asking? I've never played one, ever. That's the thing.
It's like your dying dream to get me to play Ouija board. It really is, because it's like the energy of a Ouija board.
Like I was always pretty neutral on Ouija boards, but like thinking about it when I used to do it when I was younger, I was like, man man there's nothing like when that thing moves for the first time or spells something out that you're like that's a word yeah why did that spell that out I don't know why it creeps me out so much because I would do a seance which like really isn't different way worse than a Ouija board it's probably worse I don't know like 100% worse it's just like a point system in my head like Ouija boards no I feel like we feel like we'll get you at some point. You probably will.
I'm very easily pushed around. Well, we can go stay at the Lizzie Borden house and play with the Ouija board.
They won't let you there. Oh, they won't? No.
So crazy story. Oh, actually, yeah, they had a crazy one.
So they, you could. I forgot about this.
When we went the first time, I was like anti it. And they had them, they had multiple Ouija boards there.
Yeah, they had multiple. And the next time we went, Elena and Sabrina wanted to do it.
And me and Corinne were like, no, we're good. And they asked if they could do it, like the people that run there.
And they said, no, we actually banned Ouija boards. Because somebody stole a Ouija board from like when they did have a collection.
It was like an old Ouija board. I think it was like the oldest one they had.
And then they, it was missing for like months and months. And then one day the Ouija board, somebody came to work and it was just sitting on the steps of the house with a note.
What did the note say? Make it stop. The note said, make it stop.
Oh, I just got chills. I did too.
I got chills. Yeah.
Ever since then you can't do Ouija. They literally returned the Ouija board after sealing it.
And we went to the SK Pierce mansion too and they won't let you do Ouija boards. I also think that was just bad vibes.
It's like you stole a Ouija board. Right.
That's fucked up. From a crime scene.
Don't steal one from a crime scene. Yeah.
I forget what happened to SK that they won't let you. There was a story.
I think they, yeah, I think that was just like they're just against it. I think, oh, because they think there might be like portals in that place.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or somebody created one, I think, with a Ouija board because they had banned them outright from the beginning.
I think they just didn't want to like deal with it essentially. I think that's the thing about Ouija boards.
And somebody did it against the rules and they said they opened something up that they definitely won't. I think that's the thing too is like you always hear about portals associated with Ouija boards and like not being – like opening up something that like you can't close.
I think that's when it's not properly closed. Yeah.
I think it's when people like fuck around. But that's my fear.
Yeah. If I was doing a Ouija board with people, they would need to be very serious.
Yeah. You know? For serious.
For serious. For serious situations.
But that leads us into would you rather.

Because that's not summoning anything.

Exactly.

Except for funny answers.

That's good, clean fun.

Yeah.

So Bridget, would you rather spend the night alone at the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River or at the Whaley house in San Diego?

Alone.

Alone.

I would rather probably the Lizzie Borden house. Yeah? Interesting.
What would you do if you had like the whole house just to yourself i would probably just sit there and see if i could experience anything just like not even necessarily with equipment or anything just see what i feel what i see just kind of what the emotion is what the house is doing itself i feel like you i feel like the lizzie borden house would be cool to experience alone i might no i couldn't do it but i couldn't do it by myself yeah and the lizzie borden house is uh set up more as a bed and breakfast type thing yeah and uh the whaley house is not it's strictly a museum so i feel like it'd be way more comfortable to stay at that's true you could lay down but logistically the whaley house is much closer for me yeah true but we're gonna get you back for lizzie borden now we got it we're gonna set this up yeah we should honestly it's like one of those things that i feel like i should have done like i should have spent the night there by now oh it's such a different vibe next time you come out tell us and we'll set it up yeah okay we'll rent it out grave i've you know checked out the house next door i checked out the house that to. Yeah, Maplecroft.
So I've been all around it and done everything except for actually spend the night. Now it's renting the house out.
Get everybody out. Yeah.
Just us in there. It's such a – and you just have such free reign to go around and investigate how you want.
They're familiar with us. I wonder if it would change the experience at all.
The smell is coming. Yeah.
a lot of rem pod action lots of rem pod action where they would be going off like insane and it was always the touch one same in the sk house remember yeah we had a lot of mansion yeah it was crazy we uh holly and i put up the rem pod in the at the queen mary we're in a oh yeah like a suite so we were out in the living room part we put the rem pod in the the bedroom area and it would not stop going off. Not stop.
We had to just turn it off. We couldn't even record anything because it's just so loud and constantly beeping.
And once it started, that was like, we did the USS Salem in Quincy. Oh, yeah.
And we did it with Sam and Colby. That's the scariest place I've ever been.
And it was, that was a wild one. And we went into like the mess hall area.
And as we were going in there, Sam like jokingly said like, everyone report to the mess hall. And they did.
They put down the little like the lullaby box thing. It was like that little, essentially, it's like the REM pod where it's like the motion.
Yeah. He put it in and we all sat down.
And as we were sitting there, it just went off like dozens of people were walking into the room. And it was toward the end of the night.
Like it hadn't really, that specific thing hadn't been that active. Hadn't really gone off.
And it's like, and it was going off. Literally like a herd of people were walking in the room and we were all just watching it.
Like it was like he called for everybody, and everybody was like, oh, to the mess hall. Yeah.
Like, they all – it was like, we tried – we, like, tried to debunk it. We were trying to do it.
It was so spooky. Like, that thing went off for, like, 10 minutes straight.
It was insane. Yeah, that room specifically, the mess hall, that was where somebody, like, blew in your ear.
Yeah. I felt someone blow someone blow into i could feel the hair move into my face yeah well it scared the shit out of me yeah yeah i got poked in the back there and like a little girl spirit like tagged along with us and like was talking to me yeah yeah not like i couldn't hear her but like she was talking to us through like the um ghost tube yeah yeah that was crazy that one's a cool one too and then we got chased out of there we sure did yeah that was scary yeah they didn't want us there it was like me and alay Yeah.
That was crazy. That one's a cool one too.
And then we got chased out of there. We sure did.
Yeah. That was scary.
They didn't want us there anymore. It was like me and Elena.
And there was one specific room where one like entity or ghost there didn't like women and like didn't want them in that area. And of course we went in that area.
And we had the ghost tube up. And what did it say? Yeah.
It's like contrition. It's like Sam and Colby went to a way other part of the ship because they wanted to see if leaving us alone, something would happen.
We were down. They said they were like, are you guys cool to do that? Yeah, like we were like, absolutely.
We were like, hell yeah. And I think it said, it said contrition at one point.
Yeah, and it said, repent. At one point, and it said something about like sinful or something.
It kept saying like very like biblical things at us, like over and over. and then at one point and it said something about like like sinful or something it kept saying like very like biblical things at us like over and over and then at one point it said abort and as it said abort something fell in like the other end of the room super loud and it was so loud we booked it out of there oh my god i ended up like knocking something over colby was like what did you knock over i was like i don't know.
I'll pay for it. I'm terrified.
Oh my God. So scary.
It was so scary. Yeah.
But it was crazy. Yeah.
That was wild. All right.
Second, would you rather question is so random. This was my favorite.
I found these on Google. It said, would you rather have plants that whisper dark secrets or become a werewolf every full moon? Plants that whisper dark secrets.
Me too. Yeah.
I know. That's pretty great.
Mikey was like, are they my dark secrets or are they like just dark secrets in general? Up to interpretation. Yeah.
I would. Yeah.
I'd rather that. Right? I don't want to turn into a werewolf.
That sounds painful. Yeah.
That's the only thing stopping me from picking that one is I'm like, I feel like that sounds painful. Yeah.
You'd be sore the next day're right yeah and I enjoy the full moon so I just want to like appreciate it I just want to buy crystals yeah drink the moon water I don't want to have to go like and listen to my plants whisper yeah some spring dark secrets that aren't mine yeah you're like whoa that's crazy what'd you do yeah tell me more you just walk by your plants and they're like hey and you're like oh shit I have something to tell you what is it and then last one this one's crazy would you rather have nightmares every single night that came true or live a life where you cannot distinguish between reality and your dreams i mean not being able to distinguish might be kind of a cool way to live you're just I know, that's true. You're kind of just tripping through life.
Yeah. Literally.
Honestly.

I think. I don't want nightmares to come true.
Those are so frightening sometimes. That's the thing.
Some of my nightmares are way too gnarly to be coming to life. Like I barely remember my dreams, but like the one when I, when you say the word nightmare, the one that comes to mind is like, I was like on this like cliff edge and I was like trying to hold on with like just my fingernails.
And I was like, so on the edge and people are like, you have to walk back this way. And I was, it would mean I'd have to turn around.
I'm not this like, I'm barely holding on and I'm literally like peeling my fingernails back, trying to hold on to the side of the cliff. And it was like freaking me out.
So I think of things like that. I'm like, that's a nightmare to me.
And that just becomes true. That's scary.
No, thank you. I have like a recurring nightmare that I've had for years and years and years.
I get it like once a week. I swear.
Once a week. Where I'm outside and I hear a plane very loud.
And so I look up and a plane crashes like in my yard, like right in front of me. And I can see it getting like bigger and bigger in the sky kind of thing.
And it crashed. And then I wake up.
I don't like that you have that every week. I have it so much.
Like is somebody trying to tell you something? But it's just me like witnessing it. That's scary.
And then I wake up. Yeah.
Because I hate the idea of that. Like the idea of that is, I think it's because it's one of my biggest fears is like seeing that happen.
Yeah. I don't like like big things.
Yeah have that i forget what it's called phobia associated with that i hate like oh like big buildings or like statues freak me the fuck out we drove by a boat once that had like a bunch of airplanes on it and she like freaked out i don't blame you it is it just makes me uncomfortable like i don't like it yeah that's interesting i don't like umimps. They freak me out when I see them hovering like that.
They're too big. Yeah, I don't like that.
There's just something about them. And they just hover.
It's just that little compartment. Like the big.
I feel like I need to go on one so I don't think negatively of them anymore. But every time I see one, I'm always like, Eww.
Or Nick will send me a a picture of one and be like just as for funny like he's driving to work he'll see one take a picture of it and send it to me I'm like no I don't need to see the Goodyear blimp today that's disgusting I hate that I think it's Kindenberg yes John will send me pictures of like these huge statues around the world oh no there's like in other parts of the world there world, there's statues that are just not natural. Like they should not exist.
No, it's true. They are far too big.
And he's always like, look at this one. And I'm like, ah, like I can't.
We could never take you to like Dubai or something because all the buildings are like crazy tall. I would lose my mind.
Oh, that's like my dream. I would lose my mind.
I love heights. I feel like this is too much.
I was just in Scotland and they have what's called the Kelpies. and they're these giant horse heads coming out of the water you would hate them that sounds horrific oh my god they're bringing you to them scotland is my like ultimate bucket list place yeah ultimate bucket list place yeah there's a castle called urquhart castle yeah it's not our families but yeah we gotta see it we gotta see it yeah like we don't own the castle I'm like what's not ruins now but yeah that'd be fun it's right on Loch Ness yeah that'd be crazy to see yeah oh yeah we gotta do that I know because my dad's like we gotta go to the highlands yeah it's his his side of the family is like super Scottish yeah did you go we didn you go we didn't go to that castle but we went into the highlands everything we went to other castles and we did like tasting too of different things scotches and scottish salmon and chocolates and like all their thing meat pies all their you know all their things so fun i really want to go to the isle of sky oh yeah we didn't do that it's supposed to be very like uh I feel like the girls would just go nuts over it.
Definitely. It's all like the fairy rings and like, you know, fairy pools and all that.
I feel like it would just be like insane. Yeah.
I definitely want to do that. Scotland is calling me.
Yeah. It was awesome.
We just got back like two weeks ago. That's so cool.
That's so much fun. How long did you spend? We were four days in Scotland.
Then we went to Switzerland and Paris andis and london oh what a trip a bigger trip that's awesome have you ever done uh a ripper tour a jack the ripper tour yeah we did that back on girls next door when we went with oh yeah i do remember that oh shit yeah oh my god i remember that i was like we have to do the jack the ripper tour that would have been and we went And we went to, what is it called? Eight Bells or Seven Bells? Oh, yeah. Seven Bells.
Seven Bells, yeah. That little bar.
I mean, we walked in and everybody was like, hello. Like, how are you doing? Yeah.
What's with the cameras? The whole place went quiet. And then we also did that, oh, I'm blanking on what it's called now, but it's like a set up place where you walk through.
Yes. And they have the Jack the Ripper section.
plague section they have like a you know all the different like i would love horrible history that happened there yes yeah when we go to scotland i feel like we need to do london too yeah i gotta do i gotta see white chapel yes yeah i was disappointed because it wasn't all foggy like i know it's not like you think they're like, yeah, we don't have fog anymore. That was like kind of the industrial revolution and like pollution.

They're like, that was 1888.

Yeah.

We actually figured that out.

Yeah, we got that under control now. You didn't import some in?

It's better for you to breathe here now.

Get a fog machine.

Fog machines, yes.

Can make this feel more authentic.

Yes.

I need it.

I love it.

Well, this has been so much fun.

Oh, this has been great.

We need to do one of these again.

Yeah.

More haunted games together.

We're getting the Lizzie Borden house happening.

I don't take it seriously enough when I'm playing it. But I've heard people that have and have actually levitated people.
I feel like when I was younger and this is probably like my memory just feeling like as a kid that we did it. I feel like we had a little success at least like slightly lifting someone.
That's good. I feel like.
But I don't know if that's just like me as a kid being like we totally did that. Yeah.
But we used to do it all the time. We used to try and play it all the time too and I don't think it ever worked.
I was recently in Canada and I was shooting a movie. It wasn't scripted or anything or at least not my part.
I just had to go there and be the paranormal investigator and literally do paranormal investigating with them. Oh, I love that.
That's cool. And it was sort of just shot reality show style, like no script or anything.
And we did table tipping. Oh.
And it worked. I would love to do it.
And the table was moving like across the, like moving. Holy shit.
Wow. And this was not set up.
Like I know the people who are doing this movie and everything, like they're friends of mine and stuff. Like this is not set up.
It was a card table. I watched the card table be set up.
We put like two fingers each on it. We had 2k2 meters on the top.
Both of them were lighting up at the same time and the whole table was like moving. That's crazy.
Where was it that you did this? In Canada. In Winnipeg.
That would be so much fun. That would be outrageous to see.
There was this haunted hotel room and we were in the room stop oh my god oh my god that would be insane to see that i would do i'm like no wager boards but i'll table tip yeah let's go seance yeah it was so cool that's like everyone's freaking out and jumping up and like letting go of the table but it's still moving wow and it moved back and it was crazy because at first i could feel it like i could feel like a vibration sort of happening some kind of like pulse and then like almost like a tapping from underneath and then and then all of a sudden it's like and it starts so creepy is there like some way to make it stop like how do you like close it out when you're done everybody just like let's go and and then it just like the chain is broken still yeah wow that is freaky i did find my light as a feather stiff as a board document it's not as dark as i remember but it dates back to like the 1600s but back in the 1600s they used to say behold a dead body still a stone cold as marble light as a spirit we lift you in the name of Jesus Christ. Which is way darker than light as a feather.
Way scarier. Yeah.
But they've been playing it for, I mean, people have been playing it for ever and ever. That's how the witch trials started.
Yeah. Honestly, probably.
Light as a feather, stiff as a board shit. I remember when we did this episode, I don't want to go over the whole thing because obviously people would be like, you did that.
But it was something about how little girls have a fascination with death and the other side of things. I think because women were persecuted so often back in those days.
They were like, I should know about this. Yeah, exactly.
They were fascinated by it. That makes sense.
Yeah. It's so creepy.
Yeah. It is creepy.
Let's play that version instead. Yeah.
Maybe it'll work for you if you do it that way. like the og way so much more serious too it does yeah that's that's business that is business yeah when you bring like dead bodies and jesus into it yeah it's business next time next time you come we'll play okay all right we'll do it but to this app, do you have anything that you want to plug? Obviously your new pod.
Plug, plug, plug. Yeah, just the new pod.
Ghost Bunny podcast. We have a YouTube channel and the podcast.
Yes. I love it.
It's so good. Check it out, you guys.
And Girls Next Level is so good, too. Girls Next Level is so fun.
I listen to it all the time. Oh, good.
Thank you. And the cover of Ghost Bunny is gorgeous.
I love that. Oh, thank you.
I'm obsessed. We were just talking about it yesterday.
We were like, stop with this cover. Your dress is so pretty.
I love it. So good.
And I feel like you would picture somebody running wearing a white dress. I love that yours is pink.
Yeah. It's the Bridget touch.
Yeah, exactly. I love it.
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