MBMBaM 744: The Naming of 2025

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to My Brother, My Brother, and B, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
I'm your middlest brother, Travis Big Dog Wolf Wolf McElroy.

What up, Trav Nation?

Do you guys ever feel like nobody understands

the pressure that

it requires to be

Hollywood it boys carrying the immeasurable burden of naming the year. Powerful Hollywood it boys and powerful internet influencers.
Yes.

Griffin, let me answer your question with a question.

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind wanting to start again? I do, and not like the sexy kind kind from American Beauty. Just a

not a totally fuckable plastic bag. Listen, just a raggedy ass.
Last night we were going to bed, and I was like, I'm going to stay up and

prep some stuff. Prep some stuff for this episode.
Just prep a little bit. Rachel was surprised that I would do that, that I would voluntarily work in the evening on this.

And really, she was surprised. And she just leaned in and she said,

20 funny guys, be yourself.

And that was really sweet, but also the pressure, like that obviously can't be it. The pressure is so much, guys.

I've gotten so many texts from so many different huge, multi-hyphenate talents that are asking, like,

where's my name? Where's my name? I need to know what I'm saying. Where's the name? Where's the name?

I've had my wife, my kid, one of my kids. You know what I mean? Like everyone is banding.
Which bothers you more? One of your kids asking you or the other one not? It's equal.

It's exactly equal. It's like my kids don't even know what I'm doing.
They care about fungalore. They love fungalore.

Let me tell you, can I talk about where my heart's at? I love fungalore. We discussed 20 fungalive.
I think we can keep that.

branch a branch universe. I think that can be our question of, but where's Fungalore? Because we love him.
I don't want to kill him. We can just say 20 Fungalive, but that's not the name of the year.

Here's what's interesting about Fungalore. Can I speak on Fungalore? Please, he's so strong.

Before we get into it, I'd like to say a bit about Fungalore. The weird thing about Fungalore is it was when we did it, I thought the worst we'd ever did.
The worst was the worst job that we had done.

And I thought the reaction, well, we said as much, Trav. This isn't the same.
No, no, no, we came to the stats.

It's hard sometimes to tell what the Kfabe is in the moment, but part of our touring this year has been like a video thing in the middle of the show.

And I've gotten to see Justin's face over and over again as he has to say, this year is a guy, 20 Fungalore, you have your wish. And I've been trying to really read through,

like, oh, well, what's the Justin behind the Justin? And what's he really feeling here? Is it a bidding? I liked Fungalore a lot. I mean, I.
It took us a long time to get to Fungalore.

But it it took a long time to get there. And we were all mentally and spiritually exhausted.
And I thought, I don't know if this is it because there's a lot writing on it.

And I feel like what was interesting about Fungalore is

it was the best job we've ever done. Interestingly, everyone loved him.
Yeah. Great.
We love this.

The other thing is that, weirdly, and I didn't actually get confirmation on this from other people until December or so, but also mushrooms just aesthetically became hugely on trend. Amazing.

Was that us? Was that us? Was that us? Here's my theory.

When people are worried about this year ending and what's going to happen to fungalore, I don't think we created fungalore. So much as I feel like we encountered fungalore.
Good. Right.

We can't kill fungalore because we didn't. Yeah, he's not ours.
He's like, we went on the haunted mansion ride to find the name and we got with you the whole ride and we didn't find the name.

And then there's like a hitchhiking fungalore that rose out in the seas. There's a ghost charge.

And I don't want to say I discovered fungalores because that sounds like a thing you say when you found like a cafe that hundreds of people have been to. We encountered him for the first time.

We encountered fungalore. I wouldn't be surprised if, in some annals of like foraging like history books, there has been tale of he's been found before.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Other cultures have known me by, you know, right, exactly. Like whatever it is.

It kicks ass.

It kicks ass that we did a guy last year. I don't think we can do that.
I don't think we can do it. We can't.
And that's the thing about it, right? It has to be. I don't think we set out to.

But how do you follow a guy?

Then let me start off strong with a strong pick. Wait, wait, wait.
We have to, before we have to stand on precedent here and go through the list of okay, can I try to do it from memory?

I was doing this last night. Yeah, that's fine.

Juice, can you pull it up just to check?

I'll pull up the real

shit.

Oh, man.

This is always such an uncomfortable segment for us. I understand because we just laugh at our own jokes for a good, I mean, it gets longer, like two minutes.
It gets longer every time. Yeah, I know.

2010 was Zolo. Zolo.
Correct. Meant nothing.
Yeah. Then, was it 20 heaven? I mean, it meant Zoo only live once.
Like, you, you. That's right.
Yes.

I don't think the best version of this is Travis butchering it and then me saying it right. So, Travis, you either get it clean.
20 heaven, get right with, get right with Christ. 2000 and heaven.

2000 and heaven.

yeah

um and then it was 20 does

get none getting it getting it getting it correct uh 20 20 13 dig it up dig it up get it out okay um

this is the one i always stumble 20 grifteen the con is on that's 15. 14 was uh 20 forward yes yes

Then 20 Grifteen, The Con is On. Correct.
What was 20 Forward? Was there a subtitle? There was no subtitle. That's 20 Strong.
I want to encourage us to play with the form like we did in 2015.

That's 20 Grifting and then 2015 Building Bridges. Yikes.
20 Serpentine, Zag on them. Yeah.
Yeah. Collaborate Team Stronger Together.
Okay, it's actually technically 20 Serpentine. Keep them guessing.

Keep them guessing. In parentheses.
We didn't follow Keep Em Guessing at all. Well, just because I can't remember the subtitle is always keeping me guessing.
Yeah. 2017, then

Collaborate Teen Stronger Together. This is where we start to get into the ones I actually remember.
Frankenstein Teen Become the Monster. Uber.

And then, here we get it.

This was 20 Funny, Fill Your Life with Laughter and Love, which then changed to 20 Honey

down to Beesness.

And then

Funny Honey. Fill Your Life with Laughter and Bees.
Right. Never at any.
Okay. Now, the thing that history is going to have a hard time figuring out

is that we

changed the theme of the year three times in 2020, but at no point was it a reference to the rapid spread of the novel coronavirus around America that really reoriented all of the global society.

It was never. There was a lot of social unrest that was also going on during this year.
Yeah, it's a hugely, you know. Just a shame.

I feel like people lean on these names for guidance, for for direction. And I think people probably could have used more laughter and love in 2020.
And we

more fucking cowards.

We were cowards. We were like, we don't got it no more, gang.
Sorry. We're stepping back.
You're on your own. Here's some fucking bees to play with.
So.

And then it was 20 big dog run, no bones about it. Right.
Cool. 20 rendezvous.
Fancy takes flight. Amazing.

20 Sun and Sea surf the vibe. Fuck.
We're only getting better at this. This sucks.
And then 20 Fungalore, he heard your wish.

This sucks. We're getting better at it as the years go on, which means that there's all you have to trust it.
And this year will be 20 Honey Hive

Back to Beesness. Now, I have written here, Travis will suggest 20 Honey Hive first.

That's on the bingo card.

You're stuck on bee stuff. And I think that's it.
And what do you think? Okay, but

what do you think about it? What are you encouraging me to do with Back to Beesness?

Get back to business. Now, I also thought about 20 honeyhive.

20 honeyhive, what's the buzz?

And what are you trying to communicate with that, Travis? We should all start talking together, right? Build a hive. What about 20 honeyhive, dance it out?

There's so much stuff about bees working together that you could have.

20 honeyhive, sweeter together. There's so much stuff, build a network.
That's like what they do in there. There's so much stuff you could have done.
done 20 honeyhive the needs of the many

i mean you're getting andrew andrew ryan in there um

it's getting worse no that was spock don't don't how dare you all those fictional spock invented the idea of the needs of the many you know that fictional smart guys they all no one said it before him okay so we'll put that at the top of the list for now that just i for right now 20 honeyhive is our best option let's

i like to start off at a place where 20 honeyhive is our best option is the only option to start with i think that's great great, Travis.

And what I do like about 20 Honeyhive is that, and this is becoming increasingly important to us, Hollywood It Boys, is it's also an aesthetic, bee stuff.

I can see myself dressed up like a big bee on stage.

I can see that too.

Yeah, we've done a lot of bee-related stuff over the years, though, right? This doesn't feel like a new direction for us so much as

of a hearkening. I feel like I've seen us dressed as bees 10, 15 times

in my life. Have we?

Wait, are you thinking about when we were the bee in the bee mascot costume for the local oldies radio station? Oh, Travis, this is something I would never

I would never dress as the bee. Oh, you were cowboy only? No, I would never lower myself to dressing as the bee, Travis.
I only dressed as the cow. A mammal, thank you.

I'm sorry, Justin. I didn't mean to offend yourself.

Hey, guys, can we focus up a little bit?

Can we fucking dial in a little bit? You're right, Griffin. Sorry.

I hate to be the one who's going to be able to do it. I hate to start cracking the whip already, but it just is a serious job that we're doing here.
Okay. Travis's throw.

Does someone have a list going? Yes, I shared it with you. It's a Google document.
Now, I'm looking at it. Travis suggested a sequel.
I want to get my sequel out of the way.

Now, what you've written here, Griffin, though, not to start on the what we've written written in the doc jokes, but you've written 20 honeyhive colon blank blank blank something shitty.

Well, you don't have a good outro for it. So, what do you want me to put in there? What do you want me to commit to? What do you want me to commit to written history, Trav?

No, something shitty works for now. Maybe

back to bees now. Back to bees.
This is good. Here's my.
What about 20 honeyhive bees nuts?

Travis, my oldest son hits me with about eight to ten D's nuts jokes a day.

I witnessed it at Christmas. That's true.

And there's so many I know that could fucking, that would annihilate this kid that I would get in a lot of trouble for saying out loud to him.

They say they talk about Imagined Dragons a lot, and there's an amazing D's Nuts Coda, DS Al Coda you can put at the end of that, but I can't and I won't.

Can I, I got a sequel that I feel pretty good about. Okay.

Since Travis just did his. 20, it's alive, rebuild the monster.

Here's what I want you to think about. 2019, become the monster strong.
We all wanted to become the biggest, strongest, best, nastiest, boldest versions of ourselves.

And then the novel coronavirus happened, and we kind of had to put that away for a little while, didn't we? We all had to put that away a little bit and be sort of put the walls up.

And what I'm suggesting is in 2025, we can smash through those walls and rebuild the monster you once became. Hmm.
I'm, I like the 20 It's Alive.

I think that maybe there's a better tagline to capture

because rebuild the monster, I think, embraces too much failure. You haven't had any of that stuff, baby? Personally, no.

Oh, man. All I do is win.

Right.

Cool. Most of us, though, failures, that's a frequent thing, man.
So taking back some of what we've lost.

Something to think about. Okay.

Okay. Are you ready for another one? I want justice.
You got one? No, not yet. Okay.
Hold on, wait.

Let's stop on that for a second. You didn't, you didn't, you don't have anything.
No, I have some here, but I feel like you want to get the chaff out of the way? Well,

we never go with the first few, so you don't want to go early our way. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to early.
No, if anything, now I would push back to what I

sometimes you got to burn off a little fuel to get into orbit, you know? Yeah,

I found that 50% of the time,

every other time, it tends to be we say one in the first 10 minutes, and then we circle back to it in the last 10 minutes.

I was telling Sid in the car, the thing about the year theme is that you have to prepare for it, yeah, but we'll never ever use a name that one of us has picked beforehand because

we all want to feel like we've

we found it together.

Our little brushstroke on the 16 chapel. Yeah, now for the next one, do you guys? I've we've done this so many years now.
I'll give you one, okay.

2045. Welcome to the future.

That's awesome. I know, I know.
2045.

Welcome to the future. Welcome to the future.
Okay, so Justin's playing with form, which I really like. I love that.
Because it's like,

I never in a million years wouldn't have thought of that, Justin. What I'm saying is

it's a shifting continuity for my brother, my brother, me. Uh-huh.

That rockets usually. It's Tokyo Drift, is what you're saying.
This is our Tokyo Drift. This rockets the continuity 20 years into the future.
So you can see how they've they've all been.

And for the rest of time, people will look back and be like, where does that fit in with the bigger skills? Well, but then they'll get to the actual year 2045 when we do 2025.

And we'll just go right past it, though. We'll skip that year.
Oh, interesting. Because we already did it.
So we would already do 2045 ahead of time. Okay.

And then when 2026

starts, we'll just pick back up

where we were before. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Now, here's the beauty part.

When we do get to 2045, yeah the theme of that year is 2025 yeah remember when oh a look back yeah it's a look back it's a retro year that's cool man i like this one a lot i would love to dress up like a like robocop all right um for my next bitch yeah go ahead trap for my next bitch we've been doing this together for a while So I've kind of mentally categorized these in three different ways.

So do you want one that's just

like just say we get I have 30 to ready to go. We got to just I like that you won't.
I like that you won't. One you might like, three playing with form.

Three playing with form. Easy.
Okay, great.

We've done a guy. Yeah.

Right? That was powerful. Now I'd like to pitch to you an action movie franchise.

Thunder Force 5, the Omega continuum.

Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Justin, Justin, don't get dramatic. Don't you dare, Justin.
You don't get to play with form. And then then when you get to the point of it.

No, Griffin, we have a production slate extending to 2045 already on the docket. Yeah.
I have no room to put in another tiered universe project. Now, hold on.
Thunder Force Five. Thunder Force Five.

The Omega Continuum. The Omega Continuum.
How's it start?

Me and Juice are in the room with you. Hit me with your best shot.
So the Thunder Force Five. Yeah.
Who we know is Snarky Bobo. Time out, time out, time out, time out.
Let me stop you right there.

We don't know these guys.

Okay.

So, like, if we're building a world, we need to build it. We actually need to show people this is.
They're space adventurers, half pirates, half gods. Say it again.

Space adventurers who are half pirate, half god. Are you flexible on that? Because there's a lot of people.

I'm open, Lucas. I'm open to notes.
Janice. Okay, it's me.
Clear my day.

Janice, clear my day. Something really hot just came in the room.
The five of them travel around. Yeah.
What are their names?

So it's Snarky Bobo. Is that Talis Jan? Okay.
Dink Blastar. Cool.
Big Hork.

Who's the pilot? Yes. Dink Blastar.
Wait, did you say Dink Blastar? Dink Blastar. Hey, Janice, refill my day.

Big Hork. Get out of here in about 30 seconds.
Yeah, and Jack's Sensation.

Jack Sensation? Jack Sensation. Say that last one for juice again.
Catch this last one. Jack Sensation.
It's Big Hork and Jack Sensation. Okay.
And their butler slash mascot actor Jonathan

I don't like that.

Travis, you're like really doing something really good here. And then you're top of the station.

They're trying to stop. We see them.
We start with them trying to stop the Glumlock contingent who has stolen the Omega continuum. They're racing through the cryon clouds of space.
Yeah. What's that?

Oh, no. A black hole combines with a cryon cloud.
They're both pulled through it. Fuck yeah.
Right. Then they land on Earth in 2025.
But then turns out the Glumlocks arrived on Earth in 2015.

They've been blending in seamlessly.

That's so much sense, Travis. They're nine-foot-tall robots, but they've blended in seamlessly.

We land in Martha's Vineyard. Yeah.

And we're trying to... Oh, what's that? Turns out Snarky Bobo is half Glumlock.
He just found out, right? Okay, cool. Which is creating some tension in him, but he ends up working his way through it.

And from a safe distance, on board their ship, the killer pacifist. Yeah.
They blast the world, Earth explodes. They blast the world, Earth explodes.
Thunder Force 5 does this? Yes.

Which ignites the Omega Continuum

and starts us back. Wait, Justin, this is the best part.
Juice, it's almost back. It's almost back, Juice.
This is the best part. I'm listening.
Go ahead. The Omega Continuum began at 2015.

Our world resets to 2015. Okay.
And now we're able to relive those following 10 years with all the knowledge we had previously. Of the 10 years.
That's cool. Of the 10 years.

So in order to save

to save Earth, Thunder Force 5 has to obliterate Earth. Correct.
That's a big gamble they took. And it's a big choice for Snarky Bobo.
Yeah, yeah. The name sucks.

If you had a different name, Travis, I would be totally, totally, totally.

Is it Snarky Bobo or Thunder Force 5?

Thunder Force 5 is really struck. Really cool.
I'm open to different names. You can't have a cool team name and then have their names be weird shit.
We love Dink Stronk. What was his name?

Dink Blastart, Big Hork, Jack Sensation, Talus Jan, and Snarky Bobo.

The Omega continuum does not drip off the tongue. Thunder Force 5.
I'm going to put, this is our first asterisk, boys, because that's

Thunder Force 5. Can they have different colored armor? And then they have robots

bigger than them.

Because they're half God, they all have different powers. Awesome.
That's cool. Yeah.
A lot of merchandise offered. Yeah, man.

I'm going to bust out like six in the time it took Travis to do what? Is that okay? Thanks, Christian. Well,

quality, quantity.

So let's just start

here. 2020 knives, 400 blades.

Huh.

This is a lot of mine, guys are pretty fucking out there, okay? If you don't like it, just say I don't.

So is it 20?

I don't like it. It's so I don't like it feels so final to me.

I don't want to sell it.

I have so much shit

now i've written this griffin as 20x 20 knives could be that yeah i have to make the set of 90 knives for 400 yeah i'm trying to make the math work here uh um

the why 400 knives griff uh 400 blades it's 2020 knives because knife rhymes with five that was where i started with the idea

okay that was the seed i nurtured into 2020 knives is your problem with just just in the math of it no it's not math i didn't i was trying to understand why he picked 400.

Pure aesthetic. 400 knives.
Can you imagine the set decor of these fucking live shows? All the knives and blades. Oh, man, it would look exactly like knives out.
But 20 times 20 is 400, right? Yep.

Okay. So

it's not because it's 20, 20 knives, 400 blades.

It's 20 sets of cut. How are you struggling with this? I don't understand what you're not getting here, Justin.

I didn't understand why. It's 20 times times 20 knives.

Right. I understand now.
At first, that didn't occur to me. So the selection of 400 bullets.
See, my first thought, Justin, was that's too many knives.

But your thought is, is it enough knives for the mouse?

The discussion that has followed the name's introduction tells me, of course, this can't be it.

20 Joni Ive, mind the bezels.

What I like about it is it's timely. Sure.

And I like that everyone will get it. I like that.
Here's the other one I like, Griffin. Yeah.

Easily trademarkable. We can own that name, Joni Ive.

I'm not sure I spelled any of this correctly.

No, you misspelled Joni. The rest of it was kicks ass.

Mind the bezels, I like more than 20 Joni Ive. Mind the bezels is like, look on the,

keep your eye on the perimeter. Like,

keep your, you know, your sight lines open.

So let's do like a

minus,

like minus an asterisk. That'll help us remember that we don't like the first part, but we do like the second part.
This is a good system we've come up with. Yeah.

20, this is just a joke for the podcast. This won't be it, so we'll just say it and then we'll move on.
20 do it live fucking thing sucks. Now, we can't obviously do one in that bill of.

I had 20, I said 20 do it live, no rehearsals. Man, I like rehearsing.
I'm letting it, I'm letting it mull in my palate.

What about 20

do it live, curtains up?

Say, say that shit with your chest, Justin.

How about 20 do it live, curtains up? That's cool.

curtains means death to me like i you can

but that's what the trade closes

yeah um i guess so

fucking thing

i don't know if you guys have watched that video of inside edition bill o'reilly yeah close it out yeah

i don't know if you watched

i don't know if you've watched it lately still fucking hits still yeah it's still hard it's actually so funny it's actually the best thing that bill o'reilly has ever done yeah i mean that's not a very high low bar bar yeah

you guys want to bust one out that was three justin you want to give one yeah here's what i got for you 20 super drive pedal of the metal oh hey can i tell you what i love justin what

when we think i had 20 overdrive okay full throttle full throttle baby 20 overdrive too 20 overdrive i also had 20 overdrive feels fucking amazing what was your bagline

For 20 overdrive,

no limits.

But then also, because that's not a great,

that's not a great motto for this day and age, it can also be K-N-O-W limits. Oh,

it's a choose your own motto adventure. It can be like K-O-W.
And what was with SuperDrive?

Pedal. Yeah, SuperDrive is the old news.

I think if you're going to do Super Drive, you might as well do Overdrive.

What does Super drive even mean? Let's bust all our drive stuff right now. Let's get drive out of the way because I think overdrive is the superior drive word.
I had

20 four-wheel drive off the beaten path. Then I had 20 front-wheel drive on the beaten path.
Oh, I like that.

That one I had.

I had...

20 hit warp drive land among the stars. Hold on, we are not writing these fucking things down.
20 overdrive. Yeah, I shouldn't be doing it.
I'm the slowest typer.

So So we're just getting all of our 20 drives out. Okay.
Yeah, just all the drive stuff. Who is someone else editing the document in real time? I'm not even touching it, baby.
Okay.

I was, but I'm not 20

super drive

pedal.

I can't spell this word right anymore. Pedal to the metal.

And then 20 four-wheel drive front wheel. That's not going to make it, so I'll just stop there.

Okay, Travis.

20 hit warp drive land among the stars.

Is it very Star Trek very in right now? There's more Star Trek. Hit Warp Drive doesn't.
Hit Warp Drive. Hit Warp Drive doesn't hit.

That doesn't feel good. 20 Sunny Drive, a weekend away.
Okay, I also had 20 Sunny Drive.

I had 20 Sunny Drive. We can't make it a weekend away when it's a whole year's theme.

that's fair but it's a change to take away it's nice to take a weekend yeah not a weekend a cheeky weekend you can take a weekend throughout the year several times

you're suggesting we take a cheek end together take a cheek end perhaps i had uh i had 20 sunny drive the road is calling this is massive for that i had 20 take a drive uh oh sorry You really yelled at me.

You really, really yelled at me. Sorry, I was just, I get excited when we sync up.
Okay. I know, I know that for sure, but you yelled, and let's just watch that.
The energy is already kind of tense.

I didn't mean to yell. I'm so sorry, GoFo.
Okay. What was your 20 Sonny Drive? The Road is Calling.
Yes. I like that.
But then, you know what happened after that? You yelled.

And so the energy around that one. It was an exciting sort of

cloudy energy, if I'm it wasn't, it wasn't an angry yell. I'm so sorry.
If we pick that one, every time it comes up, like on the screen, as we're going to be able to do that.

Hold on, I'm going to stand up and turn around three times to clear. Yeah, clear that.
I'll just be scared every time I see that name now because of how scared I got when you yelled.

Okay. Well, that's not actually, if you hurt someone, you can't actually just turn around three times and then it's better.
Oh, wait. I have to say sorry too.
I'm sorry that I yelled. Oh, you're

yeah, it's fine. Okay, no problem.
20, take a drive, ah, the open road.

Ah, the open road sucks, and you know it does, and you know better than that.

Does it? Because I like punctuation in there. The ah, comma the open road that's playing with form but not in a way that feels like

okay the road is crawling is better

but do we want to lean into a driving sort of aesthetic right if we talk about driving a car there's a lot of people who don't like that stuff if we were willing to commit to like a long ass tour no

bus

then

Then I think we can commit to it, but we know we're not going to do it. I also don't want to pick a name that people are going to clock us on.
You just pick that because it's a good tour name.

You know? 20 Sunny Drive, the road is calling the McElroy's four-month-long tour of these great United States of America

is a little transparent. Seems self-serving.
A little bit.

20 Overdrive.

20 Overdrive,

even though, yes, it's like I wrote it down because you kind of have to. I'm not sure that we can live up to 20 Overdrive.
That's stinking to me.

I feel like with 20 20 overdrive i've known you guys for a long time and like even though we can get pretty riled up right now yeah what i'm saying is come like august

you know what i mean i'm like are we all three of us gonna feel like pushing it into overdrive or by that point might we feel like boy it'd be nice if we had a few just to be able to like you know what i mean for a second i've always thought of it as a sliding scale where

where maybe

your new maximum is 15%

and then you give 16% and that's overdrive, man.

Yeah, no.

Because if I give full throttle in a Hyundai Elantra, it ain't the same as doing in a Lambo. You know what I mean? I guess so.
Are you the Lambo in this analogy? Yeah, I'm a Lambo guy now. Okay.

You're a Lambo guy? Yeah, now. No, I'm an influencer.
It's not up to me. I don't want to drive a Lambo.
It's horribly inefficient. I have children.
There's no room for car seats or anything.

How am I supposed to look pulling up to my kids' school, dropping off on Lambo, and I just have to pop the trunk and they're rolling around in there. But I, as an influencer, I have to.

Can I pitch one of you guys that

was not mine? It was made up by a member of my family, my daughter Cooper, who suggested Freddy Fret guys.

Cool.

20.

Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. 20 Freddy Fret guys.

What is

20 Freddy Fright?

Before you ask,

let's try it all together. 20 Freddy Fright guy.
20 Freddy Fright guys.

Now you have it.

So is this much like 2020 Knives, right? Is this saying that there are 20 of these Freddy Fright guys, or is the 20 not part of it? There's 20 Freddy Fright guys.

Now, you might be thinking that like it kind of sounds like five nights at Freddy's. Yeah.
Because that's probably why Cooper said it, right? But like, it's not. So that's huge for us.

It's not about it. It kind of sounds like that very positive, but it's not that.
It is like smells like Freddy Frank. You know what I mean? Five Nights at Freddy's, but it's not.

It's 20 Freddy Freddy.

I believe Freddy Frank guys. Some of those.
It's also not Freddy Krueger. No.
No. But what's more evocative? It's more evocative.
A la Freddy Krueger. Like, you get the idea of it.

As made famous by Freddy Krueger. Exactly.

yes yes yes i would love to compare to freddy cougar i would love for our work to start popping in some kids fnaff algorithms yeah and we can start we're never going to be on like a kid's like do kids still do trapper keepers and stuff Yeah, they are definitely doing it.

They will when they have our faces on them. But I can say things like, I'm going to snap Huggy Wuggy's neck if you don't hit the subscribe button.
And they'll just do it. I've seen it.
I've seen it.

I've seen them do it. That would be so huge and sick for us.
I'm going to put two asterisks next to 20 Freddy Frank guys. Yeah, I like that one.

20 jump and jive. Swing is back.

I knew. Okay, Griffin.
Yeah, that one's also on my list. Come here.
Link. Wait, no, what? I thought we had prepared for no, that one's on my list of things that I knew Travis was going to say.

I'm okay. So link arms with me.

Please link arms with me. He's going to try to push through us to bring swing back.
You were talking about an aesthetic. You could see the look.
You could see yourself dressing as bees.

Now, well, here you are, wallet chain. My big dance.
Oh, yikes. My disappointment in you is so complete right now, but mostly because you have the subtitle

and you're ready to wail. Now you're ready to wail.
Now get ready to wail? How the fuck does that song go? And that's kind of

ready to jump and drive.

Get ready to wail.

What's that mean? What does it mean to wail in 2025?

Griffin, how did it feel to tell Travis how disappointed you were of him and then just absolutely shit your face?

Listen, I think

we're here as a bystander. I think wailing is strong.
Scream a primal scream against this bad world.

That's something. There's something there aesthetically.

Here's one I think you guys will like:

monkey with a knife, chaos reigns.

I mean, it will. And, like, can we not have a counter?

I mean, I don't think I want chaos to be a prime, primary theme. I like stability.
You know what I mean? Like, I don't want chaos to reign. I like showing up for our live shows at the right time.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't want people to shoot us with silly string and be like, chaos reigns. Like, I mean this as a compliment, Travis.

It's really, really, really going to seem like it's not. I just want to set that up.

Okay, go on.

It's a compliment to your craft. It's giving Family Guy a little bit.
Monkey with a knife is.

I mean it as a compliment.

That I'm better than that? Is that not a compliment? Is that a compliment? That I'm better than that? Monkey with a knife, I can see on a t-shirt at Spencer's Gifts, and

it gives me the yucks I the chaos reign stuff is also rough I don't want to instill that in the world but monkey with a knife

Justin thank you for adding the little bit family guy parentheses to remind me why not to bring it up again it's a little bit family it's not not to bring it up again because I did mean it as a compliment I'll put one asterisk and a plus sign

okay next to this one

asterisk plus

I have about three more that I really like. If anybody else wants to go next, though.

I look, I got on Rhyming Dictionary, and I got some that are like so clearly like you got on Rhyming Dictionary, and it's like not words, like people

know. So like 2020, Shrive, confess your sins.
To Shrive, I guess, means to say the unspeakable things that you've done. 2020 Skyve, shedding layers.

That's like if you peel leather,

if you when you skin something, I guess, that's skyving.

I had 2020 Chive ramp it up.

Oh, that's cute. That's clever.
That's clever. Do we want to do another plant one?

Well, so I also had a try. There's a lot of Appalachian energy in there.
There is good Appalachian energy in there. I do agree.
I like that. Can I share my Trive one as well?

Sure.

I had cream cheese locks and chive. It's bagel time.

You had it where? In your head, and then decided

where did you have it? I wrote it down on my list.

Cream, cheese, locks, and chive. It does.

The meter is correct.

Was this, sorry, was this one of the year themes you were suggesting?

Yes, cream, cheese, locks, and chive.

How hard are you fighting for this one, Trav? Yeah.

Well, I was going to fight for it.

Can I ask you a serious question? Is there a bar?

No, here's the thing, boys. Is there a bar before it gets to us, or is it just sort of a

funnel? Here's the thing, boys. I don't like to limit myself because

I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but I don't have a good filter. Yeah.

And so that means that

some, the occasional whiff makes its way through. But if that means the rest of the gold is able to make it out, that's.
There's gold in here. There's absolute gold in here.
I don't want to stop.

Thunder Force 5 is one of my front runners right now. I haven't even given you guys, I have two more, and I'm saving the best for last.
Okay, fuck yeah, fuck yeah, man. I like that energy.

Um, did we put 20, 20 chive, ramp it up? No, we didn't, of course. I'm the only star.
Let me, I'll add that. I haven't added anything.
I just think if I'm speaking, you could type mine in

so I don't have to talk and type at the same time.

What is 20 chive, though? Like, what's that mean? What is that trying to tell you? I don't know. You said it.

Okay. Yeah, you're right.

20 power dive coming in hot.

A power dive

is a term in aviation that means to use the engine to go down faster than gravity is pulling you down. Yes, I learned about it from Tailspin, I believe.

20 power dive coming in hot. A lot of people feel like they are

going down to the bottom. I'm saying push it harder.

Push it to the bottom. I don't think, Griffin, if I may, I'm not a pilot.
Yeah.

True. Justin, it appears, is a sea captain.
I can tell by his hat. Yeah.
But I don't think that a power dive ends with you crashing into the ground.

There's nothing in my thing about crashing.

You said to the bottom. To land.
There's something about, if you feel a downward trajectory in your life, take control of it. And

lastly,

let me mention this then.

Let me go ahead and throw out 20 take a dive. I meant to do that.

Okay.

So.

In 20, take a dive, you

maybe it looked to the outside observer like you failed, but actually,

it's all part of the plan.

20 take a dive. I meant to do that.
So here's my pitch. I love 20 take a dive.
It's my favorite one. Okay.

Here's my pitch. Fungalore, best one we've ever done.
Okay. As Griffin pointed out, we've been slowly ramping up quality of years every time.

It's going to be. Are you guys, by the way, starting to feel the dread that we're not going to get it?

It's going to reach an unsustainable point. Okay.
So this year is 20 take a dive can't all be winners. And this year,

yeah, it's not good. It's not good.
It's not good. Absolutely not.
No, this year we're resetting.

And we're resetting the expectations of the year so that by 2026, we're back, no pressure, ready to start over

and rebuild from there.

I wasn't sure what the aesthetic of 20 Take a Dive is until

you framed it that way. A shrug, a fourth place medal.

Yeah.

There's some, there's something, there's something there. I think that's a message I want to give to people.
Like, take a dive and lower your expectations.

I don't know that I could do it myself.

I want everything that we work on to be the best that it can be and that I know it can be every time. And that informs a lot of my personality.
That's why

the tagline is: can all be winners?

But to me,

I think they can and they have to be or else or else

or else people won't like me anymore. It seems like Riff

will discover that he's a phony Zach. You're the type of person who really needs to take a dive and see how it turns out.
For sure, Travis. For sure, Travis.
For sure, Dr. Travis, I know this.

I've heard this, been told this.

We are never going to recover from the formatting of you putting a sub-bullet into this list.

I don't know how we come back to our beautiful list since you put an indented sub-bullet into our bulleted list. I apologize.
This is the sub. This is like an addition, a suggestion for a sub-heading.

No, no, here we're going to

be pretty slashed. Like earlier.

Like earlier in the document. Okay.

I meant to do that slash. Can't all be winners.
Can't all be winners.

Here's what I

okay. So we got 20 take a dive.
I think we all kind of saw that coming

What about 20 clear your drive? No, seriously

because I think we all have some things on that drive that we're like I do need to clear it What you don't have a sign from the universe. It's like no really it's time.
Yeah, this is like kind of a

plant your flag like we the podcast are telling you you have to this time. Yeah, you have to will we get angry emails if it's not blast your own cash?

It does feel a little bit kind of. It feels winky.

It feels winky, doesn't it? Ugh.

Deleted. I know.
I do. There's something about 20, blast your drive.
20, clear your drive. Is that what you said? 20, clear your drive.
Not because, like, you've got...

Secret, naughty shit, because you've got Looney Tunes hintai on your computer. You got to get rid of that stuff.

it's just sort of uh informational hygiene sometimes i look at my desktop and i want to be sick because of how i've held on to so much digital garbage i do one time bb came in and i have dual monitors and they're filled with so many weird jpegs from like abnormal stuff yeah and just like

a lot of jpegs from things i've pulled of like bits for my brother my brother me and clubhouse and stuff and they're all just loose just loose wave files just drifting.

And BB was like, why does your computer look like that? And I was like, oh, it's just a bunch of files. She's like, why don't you get rid of it?

And a lot of dang time, my computer doesn't work so good or fast. And almost always I go in and I clear up my drive

and then it starts working a little bit better. And this can be more of a metaphorical thing too, right? Like clear your life drive.

What's in your life drive filling it up?

Now I'm feeling sort of a reboot aesthetic, just a sort of like digital avatars. And it's like, what's in your life that you need to get rid of to get right with Christ?

What is what would Jesus not like that you do in your life every day? I think it would be powerful to be like 20 clear drive reboot. Big exclamation point.
Reboot.

I mean, that's embracing the rebuild the monster energy that

I aesthetically was drawn to.

A reclaiming, a reclaiming vibe. Oh, okay.
Can I just say, to jump back to the monster, something about 2.0 as a mindset,

right? Of it's not rebuilding because of failure. It's an iteration improvement.
You know what I mean? Yeah. This isn't like starting from scratch

because it was wrong. This is like a 2.0

iteration. 22.5.

Kind of makes it. 22.5.

Doesn't mean anything.

How long are we going? 47 minutes, huh? That sucks.

Let me, let's crack this. Let's crack this baby wide open.
Let's crack this baby. Let's go to money's.
Do we have money zone?

I mean, okay, if there's a money zone, it's here. Yeah.

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The character's name is Justin General. Yeah, it's Justin General.
Okay. He's a Lance Corporal.
Okay.

Clearly a captain.

He's a captain? Oh, I see.

He's wearing a hat that says Captain on it. Listen, it's a good time.
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Okay, so I'm going to crack this baby white, this coconut open and drink the sweet juice inside, and we're all going to drink it. Let me take this conversation and blow it up into manifold galaxies.

XXV.

Get rid of 2025.

XXV.

If we want to go with a subtitle, a naming rhyming scheme, it can be, it then rhymes with V, which is.

That would just be 25, Griffin. Yeah, no, I know, but we're not going to be alive in the 22nd century, Travis.
But what he's, but what he's

what Travis is pointing out, Griffin,

is that that is it that I mean, it isn't 2025. You're just saying 25.
Okay, MCMXXV. Oops, it's ruined.
Or should we do the other one? That's fucking cool and sad. Yeah, but like.

I think it would actually just be MMXXV. XXV.
Oh, yeah, MCM was.

So MMXXV. That doesn't mm-x-v.
Five letters is kind of cool. I feel like XSVXV is worth it.
If we can figure out a thing that it stood for, like an acronym, that M M X X, but what?

Give me two words back to back and start with X. That makes sense.
Xerox, Xerox.

Vape.

That's vague. Hey, guys, let's see Monster.
Xerox, Xerox, Vape.

If you can get me to Mighty Morphin,

we got Mighty Morphins. Xerx Xerox, Vape.
Mighty Morphin, Xerx, Xerox, Vape.

From Bambook.

Mighty Morphin X-ray Vapors.

XXV, I could see in a silver embossed font on the side of a bottle of fancy men's cologne

sold at the Nordstrom Rack. XXV.

XXV Serenity. Like, that's the name of a cologne by Dior.

Right.

So your suggestion is Roman numerals, just the idea of Roman numerals. It's never going to be this short and tight and hot again as XXV.

Never gonna be that.

Is there a subtitle to it? Are you gonna say that? XXV. XXV.
XXV. The next

one is me.

XXV, Classy Boys.

We already did a classy year, and it was awesome.

Dignified. XXV Roam, if you want to.

And that's R-O-M-E?

Good.

No, we have to. I want to foster a space where what you just said is cool.
Because we're not going to get there if we think that that sucks. XXV, Rome.

We should all be able to say shit like that, Juice, is what I'm saying.

Now, listen. Listen.

XXV, Rome, if you want to. Like, we all know the numerals and they're cool, right? But one of those Rome stuff.
I'm going to start a new bullet pointed out.

I'm saying I want to make a year theme where every day

will think about Rome. You know what I mean? Like, think about their...

Like, what's your Roman Empire? Kind of. Yeah, like, it'll be like their Rome.
I want people's Roman Empire to be the

Roman Empire. You know what I mean? Where they're like thinking about

it again. So thinking about what they think about a lot will become a lot.
No, I'm just saying, like, everybody can think about the Roman Empire this year. Not just men.
Rome, if you want to.

Huh.

Can I stretch?

we should we should have taken a break at the money zone yeah we thought that's what we were gonna do and then we rolled right through let's take an actual break no no because we already did it

i'm starting to feel that sort of frenetic panic and i think we can use that

Guys, while I was pissing, I had an idea.

Can you give it a little bit more gravitas than that?

It struck me. An epiphany.
An episteme? An episteme struck me, guys. Let the record show.
Excuse me.

Excuse me, judges. Let the record show.
I beat Griffin by three points. And it's a portmanteau that I love.
Yeah.

A choose your own adventure year. Okay, hold on.
No, hear me out. Hear me out.

Because my last suggestion was 20 strive to thrive

better than ever. So what if we split the year? Yeah.

It's a hybrid year of 20 take a dive and 20 strive to thrive. And you choose which one you want to embrace.

The rhyming convention of 20 strive to thrive is so deranged.

It strains credulity. Well,

I didn't want

Strive or Thrive by itself. Yeah.
But Strive to Thrive really hit me

in my heart.

But if you're like, I don't have it in me to strive to thrive this year,

then you take a dive. I feel like

to make another different

five rhymes. We use the rhyme to use the different rhyme before it.
Okay. It just really calls attention to how rhymes don't.
So it's funny Strive to Thrive and or take a dive. It's all one use.

The fact that Take a Dive doesn't have two five rhymes in it also, like, kind of

it makes it a little bit strive to dive.

Strive to thrive or dive.

Your choice. That's

strive or dive. Your choice.

Strive or thrive. Thrive or dive.
Your choice.

How much do we care about that?

How much do we give a shit about that?

If we take a dive never die. 20 never die.
Like, it really, 20 funny guys, be yourself. Like, a lot of these things come back to me.
I mean, if we look back to 20 forward, 20 forward

way out there. It seems like if we can't do an I've sound, what are we doing? You know what I mean? It's one of the easiest.
Yeah. It's one of the easiest.
It's not one of the easiest.

It's not one of the easiest. 20, I've arrived.
Take it or leave it.

Ooh.

Or I will also accept 20. I've arrived.
You may begin. Ooh.

What's that mean? What that means is I've arrived. Uh-huh.
Whatever it was.

I've arrived. You may begin.
You got to give me, you got to tell me what it is. I think it's pretty self-confident.
It's cool.

I've arrived. Yeah.
You may begin. I'm asking follow-up questions because I'm interested.
Okay, good. Good, good, good.
Okay. What is it? What are you talking about? Okay.
So let me...

I'm hearing what you're saying. Hold on.
Janice? I hear... Clear my schedule.
Yeah. I'm hearing what you're saying.

You guys have got to get different secretaries at some point, by the way.

Well, Justin and I have the same schedule.

We do.

We share a calendar.

20. I've arrived.

You may begin. You asked me, what is it, right? Yeah.
So I'm going to do something interesting. It's a thought experiment.

I'm going to take that question. I'm going to turn it around.
I'm going to ask you, Griffin, what is it? Awesome.

The part, the function.

Exactly.

The meeting, the intervention, whatever it is.

I have more than those two options, though, right? It's one of those two. 20, I've arrived.
You may be good. A funeral, whatever.
Be cool energy to say, don't start the intervention until I get there.

I get there.

The intervention don't start till I walk. We're all really worried.
Because it's for me. I'm the one benefiting from it.
Or because I'm the paid therapist who's late. So sorry.

It's probably awkward to. 20, I've arrived.

I like it because it does imply like a, I'm in my power. I'm taking this.
Like. It's I've I don't like.

You don't like the double rhyme, I think is what we're learning here. 20 I've arrived.
Is that what it is? 20.

We've arrived

in our power. 20, we've arrived.
We've arrived.

We've arrived.

Arrived have I. Does that work better?

20, they've arrived. Let's deal with it.
Oh, like an aliens thing? That's cool. Like it's aliens.
Yeah. 20 they've arrived.
You seen them drones?

20 drones arrive. 20 drones arrived.

20 C's arrive. 20 drones arrived.
No more fireworks. Okay.
Because really, they're fully. That is true.
Okay, listen.

You're on a southern there.

Who's fucking using fireworks?

Maybe someone would do a drone show for us for free if we called the year 20 drones arrive. No more fireworks.
That's. there's, I'm feeling good about 20, 20, they've arrived.
Something,

the outer space aesthetic is kind of cool to me. I also feel like it might be this year.
Then could it be 20 they'll arrive? Like it's a prediction. I don't like the prediction.
Okay.

It would be like if 20 fungalore was called 20 mushrooms are going to get so hot. Like we don't want to put our

name on the line. We do.
If you read the news, there has been a fun thing for quite a while now where

a lot of the big government people are kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, aliens the whole time. Absolutely.

And everyone's kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We thought, and the government guys are just kind of standing there, like, you guys got any follow-ups? Yeah, you were right.
You're right. Okay.

What are you doing with that now? I do know. You got us.
Okay. You got us.
It does seem like a lot of people who were like, I think there are aliens, didn't have a second step to that plan. Yeah.

So that when the government guys are like, yeah, they're like, oh, okay.

I imagine there is a super. Do we see them? No.
No way. Absolutely not.
Well, now I don't think there are aliens. That's my new conspiracy theory.
You're lying about there being aliens.

I imagine there's a class of sort of nomadic podcast listener who, once the show that they're following starts talking a bunch about aliens, they're like,

they start packing it up and they say,

we will find our way to. less alien-rich waters.

I think a lot of shows go this route and it's a slippery slope. Now, but this is also a chance griven for us to establish a new base of listener with aliens.
I'm not even interested in that.

So if it was 20, they've arrived open arms.

I don't want to espouse that. Okay.
I don't want to espouse that. You don't want aliens to like our show?

I don't think there's any chance aliens.

You don't want to court that demographic. I think it's pointless.
I worry what it says to humans more than what it says to aliens. If I'm like, come on, aliens, come and give it.

This is cool for you. Come and get it.

That sends a message to real humans. That's what I'm more concerned about.
20, they've arrived. Characters welcome.
What are you doing right now, Juice? I'm just thinking. What are you looking at?

What? My finger. Just thinking, look at my finger.
I got a splinter. I got a splinter.
It made you seem so philosophical. It really did, man.

I was thinking, like, Justin's going through something. Justin's processing.

That's like, that's why, like, stanislowski when he was teaching people acting he would have people stand on the stage and they wouldn't do anything and then he'd have them count the floorboards and then instantly become more captivating we just love to see people you know in their element really living their lives i don't know that i'm i don't

do you guys think you see it on here no no now there's a base level of 20 we'll survive just get through it no but i don't think that i know i know but i did want do you ever get to a point in the naming of the year where you start thinking what's going to be the thing that people will

not be not? Yeah. Yeah.
I don't. I, yeah.

What about 20 Honeyhive back in business? Okay. What about

you know what? Let's, that's not a bad idea, Travis. Let's, let me read through the list real quick.
Oh, see, oh, have I already said that one? 20 It's Alive, Rebuild the Monster.

These are two like retro themes. 2045, Welcome to the Future.
Cool. Thunder Force 5, The Omega Continuum.
Cool. 20, 20 knives, 400 blades.
Cool. 20 Jodi Ives, Mind the Bezle.
Cool. Fuck.

These all rule. Damn it.

20 Do It Live. No rehearsal.

Fucking thing sucks. Curtains up.
20 Overdrive. 20 Overdrive, I will say, is my most phonetically...

I think, pleasing one.

The most opportunity-rich option. 20 Overdrive, and there's no subtitle.

I have no... I add here, I'll add the subtitle that 20 overdrive, no subs, all dubs.

20 super drive, pedal of the metal. Sure.

20 four-wheel drive.

Okay. No limits.
That's with both a K and yeah, that's aesthetically great. 20 Sunny Drive, the road is calling.
20 Freddy Fright Guys.

20 Jump and Jive and You're Ready to Wail. Monkey with a knife, chaos reigns.
I think you've been hearing it. We know that's not right.
No, it's a little bit family guy here.

20, 20, chive, ramp it up. 20 power dive coming in hot.
20, take a dive. I meant to do that.
Slash can't all be winners. 20.
I've arrived. You may begin.
XXV. Roam if you want to.
XXV.

And then there's like an awaiting,

like, there's got to be more on this XXV vine.

Some meat on the bone, if you will. 20 Strive to Thrive.
I see Travis's

and/or dive.

XXV, text-mex me.

That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome.
Text-mex me.

Okay, you got the emphasis right. Yeah.

It's like, it's like, text-mex me.

But then you'd have to say it like XXV.

Text-Mex me.

It's quite simply XXV.

XXV, TexMex me.

I like that. Tex-Mex me sounds like you're about to do a character that is going to get you kicked out of whatever friend group you're in.
And this is a character I call Tex-Mex Griffin. Here he goes.

Can I just say

this is

Polish me. Here we are.
All right. Here we go.

Here we go.

I don't want to use up Roman numerals because 2030, we can make it XXX too hot for TV.

You are saying, let's not do this joke now. Let's let it ripen on the vine for five more years and then definitely bust it out.

I don't think XXV is because I'm looking at it like, oh, it's disappointing that that last letter is not also X.

I think it's kind of cool, actually. It's what makes it why you would see it on a cologne bottle of Dior.

So it would be like XXV almost too hot for TV.

I'm trying to play with form.

I understand that. That's why I added Thunder Force V, the Omega Continuum.

Can you give me another? Can you give me something a bit more phonetically pleasing than the Omega continuum? Do you have other subtitles prepared?

That is what I'm the problem that I have with Thunder Force 5 is that part is good. Okay.
And then when I get to the Omega Continuum, I feel like it's nerd shit. You know what I mean?

Like it's not cool anymore. I want it to be something cool.

A cool thing.

Thunder Force 5

Dink Blastar begins.

Again, every time you say Dink Blastar, I want to quit and Joe Joe join podcast. The rise of Big Hork.

Say it again. The Rise of Big Hork.
Now, unsay it.

I like Dink Blastar.

And I just want to put that out there and say that. I like Dink Blastar.

It's toyetic. It's really good for me.
Thunder Force 5 is toyetic, but I feel like the Omega continuum, it's getting a little bit Michael Crichton. Well, then let's do what we do every year.

Let's take a subtitle from a different one and put it on there. Thunder Force 5.

They can't all be ready to wail. They can't wail anyone.
They can't all be winners.

Text makes me. I like Thunder Force 5 can't all be winners because it references itself.

It like fails and then acknowledges the failing, which is cool. cool.

That is cool. It's like how it took Marvel until like Iron Man for it to really kick off.
Yeah.

Give it time. Yeah.

400 blades. Mind the bezels.
No limit. 20 overdrive.
20 line drive.

It's not the meter.

Meter's all fucked up.

How about medium overdrive,

like middle throttle?

Middle drive. Well, because everybody does maximum overdrive, full throttle.

Too long, too long of a walk. Is it?

2045.

It's pretty good.

I don't know how we, how actionable 2045 is. Aesthetically, obviously.

Thunder Force 5, welcome to the future.

The future is now.

I want to put Thunder Force 5 on pause.

As the world's biggest Thunder Force 5 fan, I do think we need to set it aside for a second to sample the other flavors. Maybe we need to come at this from a different way.
I'd love that.

Of thinking about, like,

in the past, the kind of messages we've embodied with the year. Yeah.
And, like, what messaging do we really want to encapsulate this year and work from there? Yeah.

It's been a while since we talked about christ

yeah

yeah it's a good streak i'd like to keep that okay great great great

20 find your if 20 find your drive

i i am drawn to tech technological

ideas i am is it because 2025 sounds like such a future year possibly possibly

I feel like a lot of my sort of

abstract leanings are becoming

strong, becoming the monster, becoming the machine.

What if instead it is more destroy, destroy the monster, destroy the machine? 20 overdrive, destroy the machine. Rage against but I guess that's what rage against the machine means, huh?

No, to be fair, I've always thought rage against the machine was too passive. Okay.
You're raging against it. Time to take action.
What if it's 20 overdrive? Rage within the machine.

20 overdrive. Actually, rage against the machine.

No, but really not. Rage against the machine, parentheses, actual.

Really rage against the machine. Really do it.
Really rage against the machine, comma, guys.

20 honeyhive.

You can't take us back. 20 don't deprive.
I want to throw out some bad ones, okay? Whoa, hey, 20 don't deprive me. You can't include 20 honey hive and throw out some bad ones.

Yeah, no, no, no. I think it's the best one we have so far.
I'm putting out some bad ones. 20.

They're all good. Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like when this show ends, it will be during one of these.

Right? Like this.

This will be the moment. It's so not with a bang, but with a whimper.
At this point, it has built to a point where it's like I can see a distant, far-future version of myself.

It's like, I, no, I'm not. I can't.
It's not there. Johnny Wonderknife.

Huh. Johnny Wonderknife.

No subtitle.

Johnny Wonderknife? This is a new guy. That's another character.

I really don't want to tell you. Hold on.
It doesn't have to be a character.

It could be something like that you would have seen on Amazing Discoveries, where we're selling an item called the Johnny Wonder Knife. Oh, cool.

What about 20 Johnny Five short circuit reboot? I don't even want to reference the ghost. Justin got so half excited, though, Justin.
When did I lose it? I thought you're about to what the subtitle.

I thought you had something good. 20 Johnny 5.

You need input. 20 Johnny 5.

It's like that's not universal enough. Only like three people like that, and even they will only kind of smirk at it.

Oh, man.

20 throwing knife.

20.

Let me look around my room. 20.
Okay.

20 scary guy in corner. 20, 20, alright.

20, honey hive.

20 gives me hives. 20, no more hives.
Allergies are in the mind. That's cool.

That's cool. I don't like it, but it's cool.

I'll tell you. I'll tell you.

Let's explore this because we're going through every crack and crevice of this fucking booger. Is

I like hive. I don't think I like honey.

20. Is there another type of hive

or another word we can toss in there?

Could it be something about instead of a beehive, like a wasp hive that you need to destroy?

20

wasp hives are fine. 20 burn the hive.

20 burn the hive. Yeah.
Eat that. that.
Because the one thing our fans are notable for is their hatred of bees. Not bees.
Not bees.

Oh, bad. I mean, like wasps.
Okay. I know.
I know wasps are not just angry bees.

They're bad.

20 guard the hive.

Protect the queen.

No, I don't want to embrace monarchy.

But it's the queen inside.

Be the queen. The queen inside is.

Okay, hold on. Wait.
20 honey hives, the beat.

20 I've arrived, the queen inside.

Ooh.

You're writing an awfully big check right now, Justin,

with the aesthetics of that, that I don't know that any of us are willing to cash.

Okay. 20 Funny Drive.

Listen to this funny podcast I found. We're getting close.
20 Funny Drive. My brother.

We're getting close. This is at least a year.
This is a year. 20 Max Fun Drive.
Consider supporting.

Okay.

The theme of this year is giving us money. 20 Funny Drive.

Put the boys back in the car. Feels pretty good to me because people don't listen to podcasts in their car anymore and it's not putting my kids through college.
20 Funny Drive, boys back on the menu.

Boys back on the menu.

Boys back on the menu? Quick, keep going. We're hot right now, Justin.
Keep going. Don't stop saying it.

I feel like I'll say things that I can't. No, Build, Build, you're hot right now, juice.
20, 20, 20 funny drive. Yep.
Boys are back in sound. Boys are back in sound.
It's awesome. That's really good.

That sounds like one of the taglines they came up with for our television show.

It was just a short season, Griffin. We're going to get him back.
20 Mega Drive.

Mega Drive.

Time 20 Mega Drive. 20 Bunny Drive.

Bunny Honey Hive.

Funny Honey Drive. Fill your life with laughter and bees.
To the max.

Maximum bees.

20 Mega Drive, a new Genesis.

The Sega Genesis was called the Sega Mega Drive outside of North America. So this would be a very,

you know, very 1990s

sort of vibe, I guess I'm trying to. I just want to say a new Genesis would also be a great subtitle for Thunder Force 5.
Just saying Thunder Force 5, a new Genesis would be.

But that would work for us. I'm talking with my PR team over here, and they're all nodding.
Okay.

Juice, what are you exploring right now? 20 Gimme 5.

Oh, okay. This actually occurred to me.

I'm so glad you reminded me of this because I had this idea last night of 20 Give Me 5 in which we expanded out the language of high fives to not just be celebration or greeting, but depending on at what angle your arm was, like the arm of a clock would indicate different emotions.

So 20 give me five more than words. And so so, like, if you went fully like done more than words before, we've done more than words.
We've cooked with that spice so many times.

I just like the idea of if someone's like, How was your weekend? And you like hold your arm out straight to the right, and it's like it was okay. Think about that.

Think about that. You guys need to get back to writing these down because I've thrown some really good ones.
Okay,

I'll add some of these myself while you're

coming up with more, huh? Okay.

now i also thought

and i'm i'm worried about the first blessed messaging of 20 give me five slap around the world

okay

but my idea being that we try to do like a hands across america kind of thing but it's that we encourage our listeners to like high-five him every country

i don't want to touch people more than i already am which is not much no we wouldn't do it

now Justin, I enjoy this one you've thrown in here now.

That's one that we've already talked about. 20 Pennywise Quit Clowning Around Buster.
Oh, no, that's new. Is that new, Travis? Did you just come up with that yourself? Well, Justin,

if I did, it was planted in my brain by my brother, Inception Style.

You're the first person to say it in the podcast, so I feel like you must have come up with 20 Pennywise Quick Clowning Around Buster. And Travis, I love it.

What I love about that is the image of one of us standing at a sewer grate while Pennywise is down. They're like, I've got balloons.
And you're like, quit clowning around, Buster.

You almost got me, Pennywise.

Where are you going, Griffin? Stretching

20 sleep deprived.

20, I hate to pry.

20 hate to pry is

really tough to be actionable, but I is fun. Yeah.

20. 20 love my wife.

20 love my wife.

A true romance.

20 love my life. 20 love your life with laughter and love.

20 fill your life. Colin.
20 love your life down to pieces.

I'll look back.

20 fill your life

with laughter and love as like a second called shot, something of

an even less.

20 fill your life, colon. Purpose, meaning,

laughter, bees, love, bees.

20 live your life. No theme, only love.

20 live your life. Gap year.
Gap year.

20 live your life. They can't all be they can't all be winners.
Just do whatever you want.

20. No, it's such a cash short duty like that.
People need it.

I feel like the answer lies in playing with the form. And it's so, that's the hardest fucking part of this whole god dang endeavor.

Is there something we can do?

Playing with the choose your own adventure thing where we're making it like open-ended with guidance

allowing people to tell us almost like a mad lib of a year that's where it's like because this is what was i think so magical about fungal or yes he heard your wish but the wish is for you to make for you to accomplish he doesn't do it he's going to hear your wish and once you've spoken that wish into

existence, you're going to do it, right? We need something like that that isn't telling people what to do, but rather giving them an opportunity to do the thing they need to do.

I have the strangest sensation that it was delivered to all three of us simultaneously during the break. Holy shit.
I feel like we all know it. You're kidding me.

No, I think it was sent to all three of us. Do you guys? I have one that I feel pretty good about.
I do too.

Okay. We're going to count to three and then we'll all say it.
Okay.

One, two, three, 100. 200 canned food drive.
Okay. So let's go and order Justin.
Travis, what was yours? 20 canned food drive. Act locally.

I like the energy. I like the intent of it.

Imagine this. Every live show, as people come in, don't say, we're going to have to do this now, Travis.
We're going to have to do a canned food drive now, Travis.

We can still do that, even if it's not the year. We got to now because you said it.
It's the worst case scenario.

And we don't don't have to get a joke out of it, and we have to do a can to do the work. Cool, you condemned us.
Do you know how to do one of those, Trav? Hey, Trav,

do you know how to do a canned food drive, Trav? Because now we're gonna do them when we do a live show. We find a place in town, uh-huh.
Who's gonna do that? You're gonna do that?

You're gonna find a place and get all the canned drive. Yeah, we'll make tour manager Paul do it.
Okay, thank you, Paul.

So fucking wild. Hey, listen.
Hey, listen. I'm excited to announce right now.
Yeah, here's Here's my year. I'm excited to announce.
No, listen. Now, listen.

I'm excited to announce right now that every My Brother, My Brother, Me live show in 2025 will be participating in the Paul Saboran Food Drive Memorial. The Paul Saborian Memorial Camp Food Drive.

That's it. No, it's the Paul Paul Saborio Memorial Food Drive.

That's awesome. He doesn't have enough stuff to do at the show, so he's going to be fucking sighted.
Here's my issue.

He sets that all up. And the beauty part about the Paul Saborio Memorial Tribe is that we don't even do anything.
Interface with it at all.

We are merely the conduit. Yeah.
Yeah. We get all the credit.
My year theme is 20 free sunglasses. And if you come to our show, you get free sunglasses.

Delivered to you by Paul.

All right. So.
Wait, Griffin, what was yours?

I forget. Oh, yeah.

Honey, you've arrived.

Cool subtitle. Honey, Honey, you've arrived.
This one's for you. Honey, you've arrived.

That's good. That's a better version of 20, I've arrived.
Yeah. Honey, you've arrived is really good.
Honey, you've arrived. Honey, you've arrived.

But what's the subtitle? I don't know, but it feels like a strong base. Stand in your power.

20, you've arrived. Stand in your power.
20 hit subscribe, gold play button. I like Justin.
Oh, that's good. That's the first time someone said that on the show.

That's one that

I just saw. 20 likes, subscribe.

Smash it. 20 likes, subscribe.
20 likes, subscribe.

20 likes, subscribe. Brothers, hit it big.

Ooh.

If we couple that with a cam food drive, that's okay. As long as we do the cam food drive, too, we can ask people to do things for us.
A little give and take.

Most of the year is 20 likes, subscribe, brothers, hit it big. Hold on.
The theme of our live shows is 20 cam food drive. Thank you, Paul.
No, we can't do it. We can't bifurcate like that.
I'll get

to something.

All right. Follow, like, subscribe.

Support the arts.

And Jocelyn, what was yours? Mine was 20 Sunny Life.

It's beautiful outside. We did Sun and Sea.
It's too close to Sun and Sea for me.

We did one that was extremely sun-focused. I don't even put it down.
Honey, you've arrived.

Stand in your power. Not stand in your power.

It has to. This is where we can play with the form, I feel like, in the subtitle.

Honey, you've arrived.

Honey, you've arrived. What do you need? How can we support you?

Honey, you've arrived, and we're loving it. Honey, you've arrived.
Can I say right now what's sparking joy within me? Can I talk about

follow, like, subscribe, support the arts? But that's, oh, man. Human creator.
What's something about human creators?

Pay the artist. Follow, like, subscribe.
Destroy the machine

is cool.

Follow, like, subscribe. Just

take, take down the machine. Take down the machine.
The human element. The human element.
That's interesting.

Are we at all concerned about the fact that follow, like, subscribe sounds almost nothing like the words 20? I'm not worried about that at all. No, because we've been recording for an hour and a half.

So, yeah, I don't, uh, it feels too self-serving, guys. Follow, like, subscribe.
Humans are perfect. No, we are.
No, listen. What? No.

Creators unite.

20,

20, unsubscribe.

Huh? 20 unsubscribe. Touch grass.

The road is is calling. The road is calling.
20 unsubscribed.

20 unsubscribe.

Life is the greatest video.

Life is the art.

This is cool. Travis is doing his fucking thing now, which is just say a bunch of garbage, and one of them is going to be like, yep, ding-dong.

Oh, because you've said that you got

20 unsubscribe god is the greatest creator almost traffic keep keep jazzing you're you're close to the surf the vibe kind of magic that's where i want you right now that's where i need you 20 unsubscribe 20 unsubscribe real life minecraft

craft your life

20 unsubscribe are we saying unsubscribe okay hold on unsubscribe not from us not from us clearly this is what i'm saying that's it 20 unsubscribe colon not from us not from us though 20 unsubscribe could mean get rid of the stuff in your life that you don't use that you don't need anymore as parts of your life you don't want to have anymore get rid of those it can also mean unsubscribe from your from email text letters text messages that you don't that you don't do or are we saying like unplug from unplug from it all and because i don't give a shit about that i'll never unplug from it all i need this stuff

i live for this fucking tech shit 20 come to life. Escape the

come alive. 20 come alive.

What about that? 20 come alive. 20 come alive.
It sounds so. You sound 20.
Come alive.

It's buddy. Come alive.
Buddy, come alive. Honey, come alive.

Wake up with me. Honey.
Funny come alive. Funny comes alive.

Ackeroid brothers, colon. Funny comes alive

before your very eyes.

See, that puts a subtitle

at the beginning. Yeah.

And it can be like us climbing out of a computer screen, like, whoa,

funny come to life. In your face.

It's a great tour. Guys, it's a fucking killer tour.
It's a great tour, but does it mean anything? Funny come alive.

Funny come alive.

What can it mean to people who aren't

professional

funny come alive? The joke is in you.

Funny come alive. Become the joker.

That thinks.

Felt like a cool joker.

Become the chuckle.

20 come alive, your subtitle here. We gotta stop passing the buck.
No more buck passes. This is the only work we do all year, and we can't make the subtitle do our work.

So, you don't want to make it like a sad lib where's 20 come alive, give me a noun and an adjective?

No, what I want to do is eat the bon me. I got the fridge, Travis

do that.

That's why I had biscuits and gravy before this because I knew I was. Dan, that was smart.
I always think farmer carbo loaded. I always think

farmers instinct.

20 come alive,

funny come alive, a new genesis, gravy Gravy drive. Oh,

20.

The trains are coming. Come alive.
20 gravy drive. The trains are coming.

20 gravy drive. What the fuck? What did you say? I just got hungry, man.
I'm sorry.

Wavy gravy drive

13 dead end drive. Who did it? Who done it?

Who done it? Who fun it?

Who fun it?

13 Dead in Drive who fun it's fucking garbage, bro. It does, it's just words, huh?

It's also like

the legal, the legal property

claiming 13 dead and full

dookie is 13 dead in drive. It's ours now.
You're not using it.

13 dead and drive, imminent dope.

Is this

the year of the theme of the year's 13 Dead and Drive Squatter's rights?

No one's living in 13 Dead and Drive. No.
Got it.

Okay.

Oh, man. It's nice to, sometimes when you're recording your Kalawe podcast for long enough, you gotta...

remember to have to have fun to lift your spirits yeah absolutely to do a joke or two you know Okay, I want us to look at the list that we have here. Okay.

And I want us to each pick two

that we think there's something within.

Okay.

What's wrong, Rovin?

I'm not saying that they're it. I just don't think we're there yet.

But is there something refinable within them? 20 Freddy Fry guys.

I still like 20 Overdrive.

20 jump and drive. Now you're ready to wail.

Oh,

God.

There may be something actionable and cool in there. The aesthetic is tough for

me to get past. Yeah, I know.
It'll be hard for me to buy this.

Okay, can I tell you guys the thing about it?

Here's where I'm at, okay?

Here's where I'm at.

I came in really nervous about

you know? And I think that's that's fair. I think that we all saw that Jive was going to try to rear its head.
And I do think the swing aesthetic, I was very, very on guard for.

And I agree with, but the more I think about Griffin dressed in a swing style outfit at a live show, it starts to get funnier to me the idea that we would try to

that in all of our marketing for this year. It's crazy.

It's chilly. It is chilly here in D.C.
We have our furnace going full blast. I just got cold all over my body

from all my blood inside me.

I was saying, it's like to the L Center. My high heart rate warning has activated on my Apple Watch.

When you look at the marketing for our shows this year, you would swear to God, it's going to be a Cherry Poppin' Daddy's tribute act. Like it is just full,

full swing

new swing and here's what i'm saying here's what i'm saying if we do that now yeah

and then by the end of the year swing is back then i think we could say definitively we are steering the ship yeah because that didn't happen on accident right that style wise

That one is more of a, this is, I'm saying it's almost an experiment, girl, to see

we can shift the culture like I need to know if the fungal or thing was a one-off or if we can really put some English on the ball

so I think we're ready to call it there's no chance in fucking

hell or heaven or earth

simply won't do it

Okay, that's interesting. That's a good energy.
That's so interesting. Now, we don't vote here here on this show, so let's not vote.
But, Griffin, I would love to. Simply know.

You know what's hard, Griffin? What?

I feel like I'm standing next to you on a stage somewhere in this great nation of ours when we're watching this on a screen.

Like, simply no. We're not.
We're not. We're not.
We're not.

We're not.

I feel like there's a hard cut coming, though. Like, this is where there's no way.
Absolutely no. We are going to be.
And there's Griffin.

We'll be recording for another hour before we get even close to this. This will be a footnote in what is already a long and

Griffin rich in now. Nope, this isn't one of those moments.
I can feel it. You're probably wondering how I got here.

20. Jump and jive.

Five.

2025.

Two more hosts.

Ooh.

Just try to get some fresh teeth. Yeah.
Some new heats.

How about this? How about this? Can I ask who well that would be with the years oh it's like a

building the band kind of thing okay i would like to maybe what griffin what you need to get your juices flowing is a little pressure and what if i said if we don't find one we like in 15 minutes then it's 20 jump and jive now you're ready to wail yeah we've been going for so long griffin you're gonna have to give us something that's better than the idea of us trying to force a swing aesthetic back in the year 2025 and into into our youngest brother's heart.

I really don't want it to be a theme. If the theme is funny because Griffin hates it, that's not funny to me.
It is funny, the idea that we would.

I like the idea that

we are trying to test the theory as to whether or not we have the amount of power that Fungalore made it seem like we have.

But we would be making the world measurably worse. Demonstrably worse.
If we do have to worry about it. No, this time we get to shape it.
Griffin. Yeah, no, it's...
It's.

Okay, wait. What if it's 20 jump and drive, swing's last chance?

And we give swing one more chance. One more chance.
One more chance. And if it doesn't happen this time,

if it doesn't happen this time, we're

20 jump and drive, three strikes, you're out.

Swing's last chance. It's the last chance for swing, Griffin.
You give it one more shot. One more bite at the apple.
20 jump and drive, swing, and a miss.

20.

Could we do something with give?

No!

No, Travis, we can't get some on paper.

But we can say it like 2020 Give.

Wait, no, wait. Now, if it's 2020 Guy,

charity, some sort of like charitable aspect, I think that's great. Yeah.

20 money guy.

Support the arts.

20 money guy.

Do what you can. 20 money guy.
Spread it around.

This is shaping up to be our longest one. I'm so fucking hungry.
Can this be the first episode where we eat on the episode?

No, because I got a wedding here tomorrow and I got to go take down all my Christmas decorations.

Do we need to stand up? Yeah. I don't think I can.

Well, I have strep throat, Griffin. I'm going to mess up the video.
And I'm standing up. Okay.
I'm going to lower my desk slowly in case any cables just fucking snap. Okay.

How about this? Let's see.

Bye, Griffin. Oh, fuck.

Hey, how about this? The lamp is off the ground. 20 front-wheel drive.
Here's how cars work. And it's you're also learning this year how cars work.
It's like education. Cars.
You know what I mean?

I like cars as a thing. Oh, okay.
The idea of cars you like. Uh-oh, one of my monitors moved.
I'm going to stop right there. I like cars as an aesthetic.

Gearhead shit. Like, yeah.

I think that's kind of cool. I had to put my lamp on the ground, and now it's my lighting has gotten extremely dramatic.
20 learn to drive.

20 earn to drive.

Feel the drive. Feel the drive.

That's powerful. 20, live the drive.
Live the drive. Live to drive.
Live to drive. Thrive the drive.
20, live the drive.

Thrive to drive.

I just took a few steps back, and now I can see my heavy power strip through which my entire

like shit is routed is

hanging off the ground by the tension of the wires. At any moment, moment,

they could slip and give, and I will disappear.

20 slip and give.

So we did 20 times to drive. 20 likes, subscribe.
Is there anything vibe? 20 surf the vibe.

Yeah, what was that? That was our

subtitle for 20, Sun and C.

How about 20?

20 Surf the Vibe, colon Son and C. Oh, all right.

A look back.

A McElroy retrospective. 2045.

You're not going to find it in silence. We will.
One thing I can say. Can't find it in silence.

Count the mangazy 20, 20, 20. 20, 20, 20.

20 funny drive. Boys back on the menu.
Boys back in the car. 20 funny drive.

I do like boys back on the menu, frankly, but. What's it mean?

What is this? What does any boys back on the menu mean?

What do you mean

who are you juice does your camera not go up there there he is who are you griffin 20

shrive rive 10 20 justified

2020 crime

clive 2020 clive

uh owen

or

oh you're so close griffin clive we need some more clives. Win there, monkey.
20 Gunman Clive, a lesser known

DSi wear hit from Nintendo. From the Nintendo company.

20 heavy sigh.

20 heavy side side.

Can we sign

20 heavy side ascending?

20 heavy side. Off into the

off to death.

20 heavyside, death with dignity.

Okay, what about monkey with a knife, colon, a little bit family guy?

This year, we really lean into real McFarlane on it.

More singing, too. Like a lot more singing.

20 Little Cry. Let it out.

New Mummies Alive.

We're relaunching the Mummies Alive cartoon.

20 Mummy Dive.

Uh-huh.

20.

20 Money Dive. Scrooge Wick Duckett.

Huh.

20 Money Dive.

I don't want to do anything else.

I have a family. Have I told you guys? A wife, two daughters.
They are counting on me. Yeah, and you know, time goes by so quickly.
Who knows how old they are now?

Daddy Mummy Live.

Daddy Mummy Live.

Your parents on display. Buddy Funny Live.

20 Funny Live.

Please come to our shows. 20

Brothers Live.

You guys have got to let go of this self-surfing thing. I don't know what to tell you.

Oh, I thought you had it.

20 underside.

The

flip it.

20 under drive. 20 under side.
Underdrive. Flip it over.

Flip that shit. 20 under drive.
Take her sleazy. 20 underdrive.
Take her sleazy. Underdrive.
What's that mean? It's the opposite of overdrive.

Kick it into underdrive.

Pedal off the metal.

Your full-throated endorsement of failing to live up to your potential is

so much aspirational shit. We put so much pressure on people.
Can I say something?

Every year, we also say every year we keep doing these aspirational ones. I don't necessarily think we are.

I just think people want to aspire.

Is there something about

okay?

Okay.

Honey, now you drive. Wait.
Give up control. Honey, now you drive.

Now you drive.

It's cool because it's like a script that you're supposed to read when you're driving. Honey.
And you say to your partner, honey, now you drive.

Well, it doesn't have to apply to just driving or just partners. You can apply.
I'll be a friend, a family member, something where it's just like, you know what? I've been making all the decisions.

Now you drive.

Buddy, buddy, you buy it. Buddy, now you drive.
Buddy, now you drive.

Jesus take the wheel. Buddies are for life.

Buddies are for life.

Buddy 20. No, it sounds so much.
It sounds nothing like 2025. Buddy, you're my life.

Worse. Buddy.
By Bon Jovi. Buddy Buddy Life.

Buddy Buddy Life. Buddy Buddy Life.

Friends to the end.

Is there something about Buddies for Life?

No, but there is Buddy Buddy Life.

Buddy Second Life. Funny, funny Tummy Life.

Huh.

Tummy Buddy Life. It's time to find your tummy buddy.

Now, as the one Griffin who keeps asking, what's that mean?

I'm going to have to turn it around on you here.

So this is a guy.

This is a character, obviously, named Tummy Buddy.

And everybody has one?

Yeah, everybody has a tummy buddy.

And this is their life.

You live life. It's an enjoyment.
It's aspirational because it's telling you to live your life like a tummy buddy.

So is a tummy buddy a person, a character? Or is it like. I'm so glad you asked, Justin.
Tummy buddies eat their meals backwards.

That means dinner at the beginning of the day, lunch in the middle, and breakfast at the end. One of the crazy, idiosyncratic things about tummy buddies.
Are you saying funny tummy buddy?

Not funny, tummy buddy. What are you talking about? That doesn't make any goddamn sense, Justin.
It's tummy buddy life. Tummy buddy life.

Tummy buddy life.

Back to the pasture. I don't know, wherever tummy buddies live.

The patch.

Tummy buddy life.

The truth is.

I feel like we're so close to jumping off the edge. We just need a good subtitle to catch us there.
I feel like you, it was right there, Griffin. Tummy Buddy Life.

Tummy Buddy Life, No Oats Alone.

20 Buddy Life. A Tummy Buddy is not someone you eat meals with.
Right. Or could it be? Why not? Why isn't it? Tummy Buddy Life.
Tummy Buddy Life, no one eats alone.

Yeah. And that, and that is like, if you sit down, sit around alone, it's like, hey, tell me buddies

make a new friend tell me buddy life gather around the gather round

the table

room at the table tell me buddy life room at the table

tell me buddy life tell me buddy life tell me buddy life tell me buddy life

tell me tell me buddy life tell me buddy life

tell me buddy life

room at the table

set the table fix a plate

everybody eats Room for more.

Tummy buddy life. Tummy buddy life.

Got a seat. Got a plate for you.
Pull up a chair. Pull up a chair.
Pull up a chair. Pull up a plate.
Pull up a plate. Grab a plate.

Tummy buddy life. Pull up a plate.
Tummy buddy life is awesome, and I'll tell you why. It can mean generosity of spirit.
Yes. Be a tummy buddy and give.

Tummy buddy could mean, uh-oh, I don't have any adult friends. Yeah.
So I need to make a few tummy buddies. Some tummy buddies.

Maybe that means I go out to lunch every now and then with one of my peripheral social contacts. Yeah.
Yeah. Because there's room at the, pull up a seat.
There's room at the table.

What's more actionable? Room at the table isn't. That's very passive.
I want

tummy buddy life.

I really think the alliteration and the forcefulness of tummy buddy life, pull up a plate. Pull up a plate.
That's not coming. Coming.

That's what I I'm going to do with plates, though, is my only easy thing. I know, that's why it's a comedy show, you fucking.
No, no, no, no, don't, don't, please. We're so close to you.
Ty went on.

Ty went on. Dig in.
Tell me, buddy life. Ty went on is, I think that's about

drinking. Dig in.

Get your fill. Get fit.
My.

Tell me, buddy life. I fixings come free.

Tell me, buddy life.

Tell me, buddy life.

Chew on it.

Tell me, buddy life. I don't want to tell people how to eat or how much to eat or anything.
Take a bite. I want to invite him about to dinner.
I don't even think I want it to be about food.

Take a bite out of love. Tell me, buddy life.
Pull up a chair. Pull up a chair at the tables.
Set the table. Breaking bread.

Pull up a story.

Tell me, buddy life.

Pull up a smile. Pull up a smile.

Tummy buddy life, now you're ready to wail.

Mind the bezels. Now listen.
Pull up a smile. Now listen, tummy buddy life, pull up a smile.
I think it's a very low bar. Tummy buddy life, sweeter together.
Tummy buddy life, yummy together.

Together,

tummy buddy life.

We already did stronger together. We're not right shit.
Yeah, what about this? Tummy, buddy, life.

and then nothing

no, I just said it a second ago. It was very good.
You did yummy buddy. Tummy buddy life.

No seconds till everybody eats.

I'm inviting you to the table. I want you.

Open invitation.

This is literally, I think, the actionable part of this year, generosity of spirit and also have a meal with your friend.

yes tummy buddy life be my tummy buddy open arms open mouths 20 buddy life tummy buddy life pull up a smile

i thought you were gonna say can i just say pull up a smile just it just took two and a half minutes of body work that he just did off screen and tummy buddy life pull up a smile is really doing it for me it makes me happy in a way i can't explain maybe it's because i'm broken by two hours of this but tummy buddy life pull up a smile

This is not just a rep. This is that.
Is this our longest episode ever? 100%.

100%.

Listen, how about this? Tell me, buddy life, pull up a smile.

Why are we talking about pulling up smiles? Why do we care about

anything to do with meals or it's like pull up a chair or fill up a plate? You pull up a smile.

And it's like, if you don't feel it for yourself, fill up a plate, pull up a smile. Your fellow human, the least you could do is like pull up a smile.
Pull up a smile. Just pull up one smile.

Hey, I could throw you that smile, I'll pull up a smile for you. Hey, there it is, you know.
I'm pulling up smiles right now, Griffin.

Pagliachi over here, pretending he doesn't have a bon me upstairs, just calling his name. No, we're all giving up a lot right now for sure.

Is it also maybe showing our hand that two out of three of us are very hungry and we're landing on Tommy Buddy Life? Yep, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen.

Tummy Buddy Life May art triumph. Tell me, buddy, life, truth, and art.
Because it's the art.

20 buddy life. You keep saying it.
Tell me, buddy life. Tell me, buddy, life.

We're so close.

We're so close. My body is seizing up from the...

I need a tummy buddy now. Tell me, buddy, life.

Tell me, buddy, life. Coming in hot.
The side of smiles.

Tell me, buddy, life.

Making room. Tell me, buddy life.

Scooch on over. Share.
Tell me, buddy, life. Share, share.
Tell me, buddy life. Share.

Tell me, buddy life. Dare to share.

Tell me, buddy life. Dare to share.
Tell me, buddy life dare to share

yeah okay

it encapsulates everything we're going for generosity of spirit share a meal share a story share a feeling share a feeling pull up a smile

tummy buddies you know what i mean tummy buddy life

dare to share we all love tummy buddies a lot yeah yeah yeah

we can't step away from tummy buddies because if we here's the hey listener you might be at home and you might be thinking there's no way they're going with tummy buddies, right?

Let me tell you what tummy buddies is. Tummy buddies is a like eight inch by eight inch rock that the three of us are standing on.
We're sharing this small rock together.

If we take a step away from tummy buddies, we fall into an abyss of possibility. Because like, I don't know what the fuck we laying on if we go.

If you don't like tummy buddies life, you should stop listening because it's definitely

going to be tummy buddy reality.

It's not tummy buddy life. I was just picturing us standing on that eight-inch rock and thinking about mutually assured destruction.
And then I thought about like mutually assured smiles.

Tell me buddy life, mutually assured support. Tell me a buddy life.

Dare to share is really getting me.

Tell me buddy life. Dare to share.

Griffin, I think you're just digging your heels, man. No, man, I think it's good.
I think it's good. I think it's good.
I think it's good. I'm trying to imagine it.
I'm trying to imagine seeing it.

I want to see it. Then maybe it's a question.
I can't. Oh,

care to dare to share. Well, here's what I like about it.
Care to share is a question. That's playing with form a little bit.

Oh, tell me, buddy life.

Care to dare to share.

Tell me, buddy, life.

Tell me, buddy life. Share your chair.

Care to dare to share.

Dare to care to share.

Dare to share a care?

I lost it.

20 Buddy Life. Dare to care.

20 Buddy Life Truths are there.

Now, here's what I like about care to share. Care to share would apply in both you're walking up to a table, someone's eating alone, you're eating alone.
You could say, care to share, right?

Share the meal together. But I'm also asking you, the listener, do you care to share with people who need it?

Yeah.

Or do you care to share your your life and time with your friends that's the thing i'm most drawn to because it involves me eating with a friend which i do like and i don't really do that much anymore care to share

dare to care dare to kick dare to care also hits good for me because that's not like caring about it it gets harder to do in these troubling times dare to care is powerful buddy 20 buddy life tummy buddy life you keep saying 20 buddy which makes me worry this is not momentum momentum.

Tummy buddy life. No, I said tummy.
Tummy buddy life. Now, is

20 buddy life care? Don't say it again. No, no, no.
Hear me out. Is tummy buddy life making it too much about food?

No.

Okay.

So tummy buddy life. Dare to care.
Dare to care. Tummy buddy doesn't have to mean food.
I want to say that out. This is what I'm saying.
You can just be tummy buddies with me.

Tummy buddy life, dare to care. It's a special friendship.

Tell me buddy life. It's a special friendship.

Tummy buddy, life.

Dare to care.

Yeah?

Yeah.

I'm sitting back down.

I just feel like the form could be played with a little bit. No, shut up, Griffin.

Griffin,

here's what I will say to you, Griffin.

When you go into the chat of our staff and we tell them that the year's theme is

tummy buddy life.

Dare to care. Dare to care.

It is going to hit in a pretty major way, I think, Griffin. It's all going to be worth it.
It's all going to be worth it, Griff. You wait.
You wait.

And when we tell our wives, our children, our friends, they're going to think we have to text MacArthur Genius Award winner Lynn Manuel Miranda and tell him

what we settled on. Because he asked us yesterday.
I'm worried about Griffin.

I'm always worried about Griffin. No more so now than usual.

Dare to care is obviously. Oh, guys, I haven't been recording.
No, I'm just joking. Tummy Buddy Life is good.
That stays, obviously.

Dare to care

is a beautiful sentiment. Yeah.
Balanced out by Tummy Buddy buddy life.

Yeah, there is balance there. Isn't there? Because you hear tummy buddy life and you're like, what the fuck? And then you get to dare to care, and you're like, oh, shit.
Huh.

Maybe I should care about what tummy buddies are. I wasn't going to learn about this.
Yeah. It really pulls you back in.
Just as you start to think, like, that's really weird.

Oh, wait. I'm going to really quickly go on Urban Dictionary and look up Tummy Buddies.

um and that was the last episode brother my brother and me

tummy buddy life

dare to care

tummy buddy life i feel like i always dare to care i care too much if anything

okay well but it's not about you it's it's made me care about different things

Or care in a better way.

Share your care.

It's dare to care, great bed. Dare to care is what it is.
You know what, guys? They get wrong. You know what, guys?

You know what, guys? I'm not 100% on it. I'm like 94% on it.
I'm dare to care is great. I planted my flag so fucking hard with it's not going to be jump and drive.
Now you're ready to whale.

And I also pitched tummy buddy life and we went with you.

I just, I feel like I used up my one black ball on that one. I think tummy buddy life, dare to care, is

is very very good.

Thank you. We're calling it.
There's a balance there.

He said he's 94%. We are.
It's not. That's an A, Justin.
We're calling it. Justin, call it.

Say it, Griffin. Here's it from Griffin.
Here's no, all I need from Griffin is, I want Griffin to say the year's theme one time like he means it and like he likes it. That's what I want to hear.

I want Griffin to call it, is what I'm saying. Griffin, call it.

Tummy buddy life.

Dare to care.

Yes.

Okay. Okay.
Okay. I'm Justin.

Yep, I'm Travis.

There's other stuff we should say here. Yeah, I'm Travis.
Yeah, that's it.

Are we sure, though? Are we sure? Say it, Griffin. We're not doing this.
We can't keep doing this. Say it.
The year's theme is Tummy Buddy Life. Dare to Care.

It feels preachy. It feels a little preachy.
Tummy Buddy Life feels preachy. Dare to care feels preachy.
It's balanced. It's about

the balance of it, Griffin.

Dare to care, Griffin. It can't be silly shit and silly shit.
I want to be with you guys. That's peanut butter and bean butter.

You're so off my.

I want to be with you guys.

I want to dare to care about this.

Maybe I should follow the thing. Yeah.
That's cool, actually, because it's cool to care. You're worried that it's

serious. Okay, and now I'll just put all cards on a table.
I think dare to care kind of sucks, but

I'll follow it into itself.

I'll dare to care so hard this year. By the end of it, I'll be unrecognizable.
That's cool, man. Yeah, that's cool.

I think it sucks,

but

if I used it,

then I wouldn't think it sucks. This is my thing is we live in a world with too much jaded preachy, preachy, preachy, preachy.
Griffin thinks there's too much Kerig. That's our problem.

That's exactly his Kerigzo. It's not that it's super preachy.
I hate that, but

if I use it,

I'll get on board with it by the end of it. Does that make sense? It's immediately actionable to the people making it.
Okay. And that is really strong and plays with form.
What about this? Yeah.

If you're about to change the juice, I'll lose my fucking time. We were done.
Yeah, I know. I agree.
I agree. Truth or dare to care?

Tummy buddy time, dare to care. Nope.
You fucked it. Tummy buddy life.
Tummy buddy life.

Tummy buddy time, though. Can we?

No. Well, hold on.
Because now it's now time for

that's not so much like time for teletubbies. And that's not our

strengthen your core. But we're not doing that.
Tummy Buddy Life. Dare to care.

Thank you. My name is Justice McRoy.
I'm Travis McRoy.

I'm about to go eat

three hot dogs. My brother, my brother, me.

Kiss your dad square on the lips.

It's better with you.

It's better, it's better with you

Come alive

It's better, it's better with you

Cause it's true

It's better, it's better with you

It's better with you

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