Kylie & Wanda Sykes on Welcome to NFL Wife Life, Wild Fan Requests & Not Being A Cool Mom | Ep. 35

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Not gonna lie, Wyatt was trying to tell me about how a friend of hers sustained an injury.

And she tried to tell me that the nurse had little crotches.

She meant crutches.

It was incredible.

Let's get this podcast started.

Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a wave original brought to you by Visible, live in the Know.

I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, friend of the spider community.

I did not cry at kindergarten drop-off, and I bleed green.

By the way, Dakspit first.

And in case you were wondering, Jason's tweet, I read it and laughed, Avi,

before he posted that.

So all the people thinking that it was appalling.

Do you know my husband?

Anyway, coming up on today's episode, a bunch of NFL wives just posted their season kickoff parties, which has me reminiscing about my days as the oldest Eagles wife on the team.

God, I was

in this week's edition of Can I Be Honest?

And as you can see, I'm in our Philly studio today because soon I'm going to be joined by a fellow Birds fan.

She's the hilarious Emmy-winning stand-up comedian, actress, and writer who's been leading the charge for the WNBA here in Philly, Wanda Sykes.

I'm so excited.

Again, no business.

But first, a quick NGL announcement about all the Real one teacher wish lists.

We've received hundreds and hundreds of submissions.

So thank you for your videos and sending the links.

Queen Emma and the team have been hard at work compiling all of the wish lists that were sent in.

And I'm going to feature some of my favorite videos on Warship Monday.

Queen Emma wants me to commit to an amount that I am going to cover.

And let's just say

the majority of the wish lists that were sent will have at least

some of their items covered.

If we were to clear wish lists, then we would do less of them.

And that wouldn't reach as far.

Moving on, the real ones had a lot to say about my solo episode this week.

So I'm going to respond to some of your top comments.

First up, much to my own chagrin, it seems like you loved listening to just me for an entire episode.

Why?

That's terrible.

This comment says, I love the solo episodes.

I just watched a grown woman answer a quiz about animals, and I'm here for it.

Yes, you did.

And I do it again.

That shit excites my soul.

What was the buzz feed?

I used to love when it would pop up and be like, dog breeds.

Do you know them?

And I'd be like,

you're fucking right, I do.

This next comment says, do a solo once every four weeks.

I really enjoyed this.

this from Canada.

Hey, up north.

Queen Emma wants to know if I would want to do more solo episodes.

And I think

it's pretty obvious.

Fucking no.

Nobody needs more of me.

Right?

No.

Queen Emma also wants to know, what if they were a cool 60?

And I said that just the way she would.

Okay.

No.

Also, no.

I feel like this is the no segment.

Um, maybe one more solo episode this fall.

Queen Emma's looking for a Thanksgiving special that's a solo episode.

Um,

maybe,

honestly, because

who the heck's gonna want to record on Thanksgiving week?

I feel that

me, that too, okay.

And also, the last episode wasn't technically a solo episode because Benny and Wyatt made cameos.

So,

gotcha.

Next up, a lot of you guys gave more ideas for what I should have the girls call me to help break up the symphony of mom, mom, mommy, mom, mommy, mom, mama, mom, mommy.

Let's see what they are.

Lil John.

And your response could be, what?

Yeah.

Okay.

I'll do it.

I'll do it.

I will absolutely do it.

And I'm telling my kids to call, oh me, Cabzah.

Now, this gives me a very very good idea.

I actually feel like

morning drop off, we're starting to get into a routine.

And I feel like instead of saying that we need to get in the car, that I should just start yelling, Cabsa here, because I feel like that's more fun.

So maybe we'll do both.

And lastly, there were a bunch of comments like this.

No comment on the engagement?

Hey, has she congratulated Travis and Taylor on their engagement?

So if you record

before

the announcement was posted,

you got it right.

Yep.

Yep.

You're with me.

I think that this is,

I would like to put out that I have made a very conscious effort

to not discuss

Taylor and Travis on this podcast because

news outlets,

tabloids, and AI, quite frankly, like to post

only the quotes that they grab from whatever I say in reference to them.

And here's that I, here's where I think there is a disconnect.

People do not realize that

you at home, you have your family.

And in your family, you might have a brother-in-law and they might be dating someone.

They might have, you might have a soon-to-be sister-in-law.

But you have a relationship personally with them that no one else is involved in because it's your relationship.

And so I don't need to come out here

and make statements when I already talked to them.

You see what I'm saying?

I don't need you to clickbait my shit.

I don't need you to take my comments and try and dissect it.

I think it goes without being said.

I am so incredibly happy for them.

We are so excited that they are taking this next step.

The girls are so excited to get another aunt.

I am so truly happy for them.

And I feel so grateful that we get to welcome Taylor into our family in a more official capacity.

But it's our private relationship.

So

that's my brother-in-law, Travis, and my soon-to-be sister-in-law, Taylor.

And so I don't, I don't need to talk about them all the time.

Our relationship is private between us.

And so it's okay that time made it so that we didn't congratulate them in the last episode.

And also

that

I don't, I don't always have to.

comment on what they're doing in their lives because

I can just text them and talk to them about it.

Anyway, now that that's been covered, let's move on to another one of my favorite segments.

Can I be honest?

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This past weekend was, of course, NFL kickoff.

And alongside all the highlights, my Instagram feed was also filled with photos from various NFL spouse kickoff parties happening around the league.

Brooke Dickerson shared the Eagles ladies' brunch.

Former NGL guest Kristen Yuszchek threw one for the 49ers women.

And as a retired NFL wife, emphasis on the retired, it's cool to see these bonding moments among the women of the league.

I am, first of all, mostly proud of the Eagles women for doing it so early because we used to get, I'm not kidding, to November.

I would say the end of November and usually have a moment of, shit,

we haven't gotten together yet.

Yikes.

And then we would quick plan what would end up being a really fun Christmas or holiday get together.

But I'll tell you what, it took that long and it was without fail.

And every single time we would do the holiday one and we'd be like, we should do this earlier next year.

And then you know what we would do?

Not.

I especially love seeing the women.

who I was there with.

Brooke Dickerson, Annie Elliott, Nikki Milata.

There's all these women who are still there who are continuing this

culture of

sort of inclusivity and making sure that everyone feels like they have contact and that they have an opportunity for community.

And that is really exciting to see.

I feel really proud that that's happening in Philadelphia as if I have any fucking skin in the game anymore because I'm red-sired.

Ironically, the first

event that I went to with women, with the Eagles was

a white elephant.

So

right on brand.

I'm telling you, we literally every single year would just get to the holidays, and then it would be spur of the moment.

Um,

but I don't,

it was a lovely time.

I had one person there that I knew personally that had included me.

Um, she was friends with Jason.

Shout out to Laura Barwin.

It was nice to have that connection and laura was great about including me and making me feel welcome there's something to be said about that because i'm sure that it still happens many places but uh

it there's always that

almost like a welcome to the nfl moment for women

and um

Mine

was when I met someone who

shall remain nameless.

To be honest, I don't even know if I remember their name.

And when I met her,

she said to the person that had introduced me, which is

a random connection.

Essentially, I was downstairs in the family room and someone

introduced me as, oh, this is Jason's

girlfriend.

And the person looked at the person introducing me and said, Jason Kelsey.

And the woman said, yes.

And she goes, he has a girlfriend?

I was like, yes, bitch.

She just said that.

And I'm standing right in front of you.

What the fuck?

What?

Excuse me?

Yeah, that was my welcome to the NFL moment.

Lucky for me, I did not have to interact with that woman much more than that.

It was better off.

I was okay with that wholeheartedly.

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Moving on, chat.

Let's get to some scrolling.

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First up on Doom Scroll at Anna Rankin,

RN, ooh, a nurse on TikTok made a point about me time that I feel deep in my bones.

Queen Emma, roll the clip.

I don't need me time.

I need

no one needs me time.

No one needs me.

No one needs me time.

I don't need me time.

I don't need it.

That's honestly

so true.

I want to

sit on the couch

and sit.

That's it, period.

That was my whole sentence.

I want to sit on the couch, period.

That's literally it.

Is that I'm that's it.

Me time to me says that I have things that I want to do for me

and That's not necessarily the case.

I want no one to need me.

I don't want to open a snack.

I don't want to I don't want to fill a water bottle

Yeah, I don't want to wipe a butt.

That's easy.

That's not mine, you know

Yeah, I think I think that pretty much sums it up.

This is what I will say.

When there have been times where all of my children have left the house

and no one is currently in my vicinity and I'm at my house by myself, which is a great place to have nobody needs me time.

That's where I want the nobody needs me time.

I want to interact with my house the way I want to interact with my house, unguided.

If you know what I mean, then you know what I mean.

Approximately 30 minutes, I'll give it 30 minutes into that.

I get real bored, really bored.

And I want them to come back.

And then

a couple times, full honesty here, no judgment,

they come back.

And within 15 minutes of them being in the house, I'm like, you could leave.

You could go back.

Go back wherever you were.

Go back to where you were.

I missed you.

And now the fact that you drop kicked your sister in the middle of the living room makes me want you to go back wherever you were for 10 more minutes.

I need 10 more minutes of silence.

You know?

Yeah, that's it.

Next up on Doom Scroll, I found myself on DIY Spider Home Building TikTok.

Yes, you heard that right.

And I have many thoughts.

Queen Emma,

please.

So I have a little jumping spider.

He's been hanging out in my bathroom for quite a few months now.

So this is the little home I have set up for him so far.

I have more stuff coming to fill it up more.

It's just on back order.

But here is curious little butt is.

I can't believe he got in here.

Now, since he is like a wild spider, I'm not going to shut this door on him so he can freely go in and out as he pleases.

And I got to get some food for him.

A couple things I love about this video.

First of all, she didn't kill the spider.

Starting off on the right foot.

I am the person

who who not only thinks that certain spiders are cute,

but also will scoop them up in my bare hands and take them outside.

Uh,

now,

sometimes when I don't think they're cute, I'm not picking them up in my bare hands.

That's going to be a cup and piece of paper situation.

I love nothing more than the fact that this spider knew that she created that for him or her

and that it went into the little house.

If you don't think spiders are cute, I want you to look up jumping spiders, and I want you to look at a close-up of a jumping spider.

There's no way they're so fuzzy and like compact and like almost chubby because the fuzzy and their little eyes are so cute.

Oh,

I love it.

Um, the girls don't love bugs as much as me.

I will say I have not passed that on.

They do love

what Benny calls

polis.

That makes me want to cry.

I don't know why, but that made me want to cry.

Hold on.

It literally, the thought of hearing her say lolipoly makes my heart sing.

That is one thing I will never correct.

That is a lowly poly until she starts saying roly poly because some jackass corrected her.

It won't be me.

It will not be me.

It's a lowly poly in our house until the end of time.

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She's an Emmy Award-winning actress, writer, and comedian.

You know her from stand-up specials and roles in hit shows like Blackish, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and the other two.

She's also a Philly sports fan who's been advocating for the Philly WNBA team for years.

It's happening.

Plus, she's a fellow mom and currently in the middle of of her stand-up tour, but has still made time to sit down with me today.

Wanda Sykes, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.

Thank you.

Happy to be here.

I am so excited to have you specifically to talk about some Philly stuff.

I know that you are in the area and a Philly sports fan.

Yes.

What's your favorite Philadelphia team?

Eagles.

Easy.

Easy.

That's the easy one.

They make it a light lift.

Yes.

Now, what's the best part of Eagles fans that you have found?

Uh, just die hard, die hard.

Uh, even when not having a great season,

they don't, you know, they're not, they're not leaving this stands early.

They stick with it.

They're gonna talk some shit.

Oh, oh, they're gonna let you have it.

Yeah, they're gonna boo you.

They're gonna boo you.

Yeah, they're gonna throw batteries at Santa Claus.

They're gonna do all that.

Yes, but it's out of love.

It's out of love.

And it's like, okay, right now

we know we stink, but we're going to let you know that.

Yes.

And everybody has an opinion how to get better, what we need.

Yes.

Right.

But

when we're winning, isn't it the best?

It is.

It feels good around here, doesn't it?

It feels great around here.

Yeah, it does.

It feels good.

In three words or less, how do you feel about the Dallas Cowboys?

Three words or less.

Piece of shit.

Perfect.

I was going to say fuck the Cowboys, but yeah.

That's my go-to.

Piece of shit works.

Yep.

Yeah.

I usually say dumbass cowboys.

Perfect.

But

that works.

The dumb boys.

Yeah.

All accepted.

Okay.

Like my husband, you are not originally from Philadelphia,

but you have very much embraced the city.

Yes.

Is there any Philadelphia-ism

word, phrase, food?

that you are totally in on?

John.

Perfect.

Applies to everything.

It applies to everything.

Person, place, or thing.

It is very confusing for people who are not around here.

Yes.

But people cannot fathom that you have just, like, it's a, it's a plug-in anywhere.

Any, anything, anywhere.

And it sounds good.

It flows nicely.

It flows.

Yep.

Well,

back to Philly sports.

Okay.

Let's get right into it.

You and your wife have been very much on the forefront of the movement to get Philadelphia its very own WNBA team.

Yes.

And of course, we found out earlier this summer, it's finally happening.

In 2030, we will have our own WMBA team.

What was your initial reaction to the news?

Oh, man, we were, we were just, just overwhelmed and just so excited.

And we've been working on this for a long time.

And not just the two of us, we also,

there's another mom group,

Ashley Luckenheimer and Starlight Crandall, another couple and this all like started we were telling them what we wanted to do and they you know jumped on was like hey yeah you know let's let's let's go for it and just started making calls and meeting with um you know city council uh people and uh actually the mayor was on the city council at that time so we met with her and what i really

really loved was that how everyone we talked to was like, yes, Philly needs this.

Philly deserves this.

Like no one was like no

it was all just so positive positive uh people wanted it for the city they wanted it for women's sports um so and everyone and everyone was like shocked that

it wasn't you know like we didn't already have one you know it was like like wait man how do we get overlooked how you know dc has it new york has it it's like they you know we're the flyover city what the hell right

um so everyone was pretty fired up and of course we put a you you know got a bid together put it in and it was just crickets from the league nothing nothing and we knew that in order to get this done we had to have the sixers support and uh you know met with them and they were a little but but then but david david alloman was always like

okay yeah i want to do this even if it's not with the sixers i'll you know do it on you know help you guys you know

financially on you know put in for the bid and all so um

yeah, everyone was really fired up about it.

But then, when the Sixers said, you know what, we got it, we got to go all out on this, we have to make this happen.

This is this is the right thing to do.

And uh, so when they did, you know, and here we are, we're getting it 20, 30.

Yeah, now, with your involvement in getting the team here in the first place, are you currently involved in the ownership group at all for the Philadelphia WNBA team?

Um, well, right now,

uh, the answer, short answer, no.

Um,

However, we're having conversations and the Sixers, and, you know, they have to figure out what that structure is.

And once they figure out what that is, then they'll get back to us and we'll see how we can, you know, navigate.

I'll bring my bag of nickels and see if that'll.

Sorry, just pushing one across the table at a time.

Is this enough?

Is this enough?

How about this?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can I have a little bit?

Now, I've talked about wanting to invest myself.

You let me know.

I'll bring a bag of nickels.

Okay.

No, but really,

I'm so excited about it.

And I'm so grateful to you and your wife and the other individuals who were advocating for it here because.

Like I said, I truly think Philadelphia has been ready for it for a long time.

But obviously right now with the excitement around around the WNBA and women's sports in general, this is, this is so, it's so cool.

And I really appreciate you.

I'll pass it on to

our little group.

We call the Philadelphia Sisters.

That's perfect.

I'm so grateful.

I'd love to switch gears a little bit and talk about your career.

I mentioned it in your intro.

You are in the middle of your please and thank you stand-up tour.

I see you've got some upcoming tour dates in the U.S.

Are you planning any more Philly dates?

Yes.

It'll be next year, though.

But like the early part of next year.

I think I saw something like maybe March or something.

I'm not sure.

That's yes, I will be back.

Of course.

Love it.

Bring it home.

Do you like performing in Philly?

And where does it rank in as far as your top cities to perform in?

I do.

I love it.

I love the audience.

You know, it's pretty much like the, you know,

it translates kind of like how Philly feels about sports, the sports teams.

Yep.

The ones that come out, they know,

you know, my love for the city.

So they show up, you know, and

they want you to do good.

But if you do a joke that's not working,

they'll let you know.

Come on, Wanda, you know, you know.

Do they chirp at you?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

But our handling doesn't stop at the link.

So weird.

No.

No.

No.

Now, I also love whenever you talk about parenting on stage.

Yes.

Do you run your jokes by your kids before you perform them?

I do not.

Love that.

No.

Going blind.

Yes.

Wing it.

Yeah.

Now, what's their feedback like?

Actually,

when they

started like a middle school almost.

Yeah.

Yeah, when they were in middle school, they did say,

hey, can you like not talk about us?

Because

our friends, you know, their parents let them see things that you do.

And then, you know, and they joke, joke on us.

I'm like, oh, I said, well, their parents shouldn't let them watch things.

Like, that's, that's, no, my jokes are for mature.

My stand-up.

I said, but you can watch, you know, when I'm on, you know, like the late night show or something.

But, and they were like, well, we really wish you wouldn't.

I'm like, oh, well,

you want a car, right?

Mama's got to buy that car.

Oh, that's too bad.

Yeah.

That's too bad.

Mama's going to buy the car.

Now, do you run jokes by your wife?

No, but she'll come to the show and she will let me know if it's too hard.

Sure.

Too hard on her or whatever.

And I say, don't you want a place in France?

You want a place in France, don't you?

No, speak of that.

Mama's going to buy that.

Speak me in that.

Now, when you imitate your wife.

Oh, yeah.

Is she actually just casually like crushing heaters all day?

Like, does she actually smoke cigarettes?

I'm so intrigued, or is it just like the air of like a French woman?

It's the air of a French woman.

I love that.

And she does not smoke, but that's just how I see her.

When she's taught to be a god, I just see it.

I just see her just to be fair.

The first time I saw your impression of her when you started, when you started out with the smoking the cigarette, I thought, this woman's French immediately.

Glad to know that she's not just crushing them all day, though.

Now, you've also been in so many iconic movies and shows throughout your career.

Is there a project that fans bring up the most with you?

Curb your enthusiasm.

Understandable.

They love curbing enthusiasm.

And people come up to me and, hey, can you yell at me?

Or can you, you know, get, hey,

leave a voice message and just cuss people out, curse them out.

I'm like, oh, God.

Like, okay.

I'm not, you know, I'm not a crazy woman.

I'm not, you know.

Come on, Wanna.

Cause I'm like, actually,

I got, I got into town, what, Monday?

Yeah, flew back Monday.

No, Sunday, Sunday.

I flew like Sunday.

And flight attendant goes,

yeah, can you come and say hi to the captain?

He's a big fan.

So I go and he, and he goes, call me an asshole.

And I'm like,

I just, you just flew me

from safely.

Yes, safely.

uh-huh chicago to here and and it's asshole okay like that's scary

call me an asshole i love that as someone who curses a lot i love that um i will say i loved your part in monster-in-law thank you because the the con like the relationship between you and jane fonda for that was just hilarious.

You guys played off of each other so well and it was fun to watch.

Thank you.

Now, I often say I have no business being in the very cool places I have somehow found myself in these days: Fashion Week, the Olympics,

a recording studio for a Christmas album.

I had no business being on.

This is shit your spouse is talking you into.

It's a whole thing.

We're breezing right over it.

How did you navigate Fashion Week?

I'm not saying you're not fashionable.

I'm just saying, No, I am not.

I am not.

No, I am not.

Like, I've never been to Fashion Week.

Let me be clear.

My biggest fear is getting invited to the Met Gala or the Met Ball, whatever.

That's don't woof.

They know better.

You know what I would show up.

This.

I've said it multiple times.

When people give me something where I need to dress up,

this.

Yeah.

Maybe a t-shirt.

Yeah.

Maybe a t-shirt, maybe a black t-shirt.

That's right.

That's really jazzing it up.

Right.

Jeans, Chuck Taylor's.

There you go.

Done.

Good.

I'm not.

I ended up at Fashion Week because a dear friend of mine invited me.

She works for Mosquino.

Obviously, one of my, like, she's way cooler than me.

Okay.

And I ended up front row at Alberta Ferretti, which was incredible.

The cool thing is, is that I can appreciate it.

I love that people.

I love it.

I love it so much.

And then I go into my closet and I'm like,

yeah, I'm going to put my converse back on and keep it rolling.

So places that I had no business being, do you ever have any moments in your career where you just have, uh, wow, I really have no business being here, or that you're just like, wow, this is a really special moment?

Because for a while, people got very disturbed by the fact that I kept saying that I had no business being places or no business talking to the amazing people that I get to talk to.

And they were like, No, you have business being there.

And I'm like, You, it's a, it's a funnier way of saying that I am so incredibly grateful to be able to experience these things.

Is there ever, is there moments that stick out to you where you thought to yourself, this is an incredible moment that I didn't know I would ever get the opportunity to experience?

I would say co-hosting the Oscars with Regina Hall and Amy Schumer, that was pretty amazing.

Yeah.

So like we walked out and I'm like, what the hell am I doing here?

You know, it's like, how did I get here?

Yeah.

This is crazy.

And then you just embrace it and roll.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yep.

The

White House correspondents dinner.

And

yeah, because I mean, I know they have a comedian there.

So that made sense.

But once I

walked in

and I'm like, it's President Obama.

I'm sitting next to.

Michelle Obama.

Like, what the fuck?

How the hell did I get here?

You know, you're like, what the hell is this?

Yes.

I did that also on Monster-in-Law when I walked in.

I'm like, I'm, I'm working with Jane Fonda

and Jennifer Lopez.

This is crazy.

You're like, this is crazy.

I feel like it's nice to experience those moments because it is like.

This is like it has to be one of those moments that sticks with you forever to be like, this was a really cool experience.

And then you get to appreciate it a little more because you had that moment of like, what the fuck am I doing here?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anytime I go like,

we take the tunnel to somewhere.

Yes.

Why am I allowed in the tunnel?

Why the fuck am I?

Who let me in this tunnel?

Like, don't I need a badge or something?

Why?

Yeah.

The number of times I've been like, I don't have a badge.

I can't go there.

And people are like, you don't have a badge because you're about to be on.

Can you just keep walking?

And I'm like, I'm not allowed there.

You need a badge to go there they're clearly checking you see that man he's checking badges i don't have a badge so i'll be here you guys let me know how it goes yeah

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Now, I

have said it before that I don't really get starstruck,

but I do get nervous.

Um, have you ever been starstruck early in your career?

Um,

George Clooney.

Yeah.

I forgot.

I don't even know, I was in New York for something, and

my publicist is like, Let's go, let's go to Four Seasons bar and, you know, have a drink.

All right, cool.

So we get there,

and

another publicist comes over and starts talking to her uh and she goes and she goes get ready i'm like huh and here comes george clooney just casual casual just walks into the bar and it really it you could just feel like the the air just getting just it just shifted sure it was just a shift and everyone was like

you can you like everyone inhaled at the same time you can feel that so we're at the bar and he's like, hey, Wanda, how you doing?

I'm like,

hi, George Clooney.

You know, I said his whole name.

Hi, George Clooney.

You know,

that's incredible.

And I was, yeah.

He, it was, yeah.

He has star power.

Just

a collective inhale.

Okay.

What he was worth a collective inhale?

He was.

I love that.

Charming.

Charming.

He seems that way.

I'm glad.

Now, well, I'd love to circle back to parenting and talk to you some more about being a mom.

Okay.

You are a mom of twins.

Yes.

I saw you recently talked about them being almost old enough to drive.

Yes, they're 16.

And how is that going?

Olivia is into it.

She's really like, hey, you know,

and I took her

out for spin.

It's terrifying.

It is.

It's terrifying.

When you don't have control,

yeah, and she did a great job.

Sure.

She did a great job.

But I'm going to send her to a class where somebody has a car with a brake or another wheel on their side, but at least a brake on their side, because, you know, it is.

You're really just.

putting your life in there in their hands.

In a very large vehicle like a right a heavy piece of machinery piece of machinery yeah but she she did a good job but it's it's i mean it's terrifying i don't want to be in the car with any of my kids when they start driving no

because also i'm not equipped to teach who the fuck

who am i you know what doesn't work hey don't do that that does not work

that doesn't work No, I want someone who's

a professional.

Now,

twins.

How is that?

Two at the same age, at the same time.

Now, you have boy, girl.

Boy, girl.

That must mix it up a little.

As they got older.

Yeah, it did.

But

when we first got home,

we thought, oh, this is because

they got home and they were just still in their little car seats and they were sleeping.

We were like, oh, look, okay.

This is good.

All right.

So then we, it was still sleeping, put them in a little, in a little pack and play because, you know, we were doing stuff

and fine.

And it was time to go to bed, put them in the crib.

Just all hell broke loose.

Like, just, it was just, this one would cry.

This one would, you know, need a changing.

It was one, okay, feed this one, change this one.

It was just constantly that.

And after two days of that, I was like, one's got to go back.

We got to.

Eeny, meeny, mo,

it's up to you, but you got to take one back.

Yep.

I bow down to parents of multiples because

I at least, we have four now,

but we had each of them, they each had their own newborn experience.

Okay.

Yep.

Nearly two years in between each of them.

Our two oldest are 17 months apart.

That's our closest.

And everyone else is about two years apart.

But I mean,

multiple.

But still, you're doing this.

It's not two years because you're doing it while you're pregnant with the

wow.

Now, we talked about you having two 16-year-olds.

I don't know about you, but I've learned a lot about Gen Z and Gen Alpha Slang coaching high school field hockey.

Okay.

Have you guys talked about your aura in your house?

Yes.

Love this.

Okay.

Tell me.

Well, it's all about losing aura.

Yes.

That's what I've learned.

Like, is that

there's aura

things are taking from your aura when it's bad.

Yes.

And then

feeding or growing your aura when it's good or something.

I can't.

I know Olivia left something in class

and she had to run to catch the bus.

And she, so she was talking about, about that.

Like we driving to school and they take the bus home.

So she goes, oh, oh, man, I don't know what it's going to be like this morning.

I'm like, what?

She's like, I lost so much aura yesterday.

She's like, I had to run to the bus.

And I know everyone saw it.

It's going to be at least a couple of days.

And her friend is like, yeah, dude, at least a couple.

I'm like, you ran to the bus

for running?

Yeah.

You lose aura.

It's not cool to run.

It's not cool to run.

It's not cool to run.

I know that.

For some reason, I know that.

I'm not sure why.

Yeah, it's not cool to run.

I feel like running is like

running in high school is the equivalent of having like a wheelie backpack.

Like we're not, we're just not, we're not running.

You're not running in high school.

I made Lucas wear a helmet.

He was riding a scooter.

Right.

God forbid.

And yeah.

Mm-hmm.

He was going to talk about it.

He wanted some aura points on that one.

He was on the scooter.

And I was like, put your helmet on.

No.

Safety is not.

He's like, you are killing my aura.

No,

safety is not killing.

I'm like, well, I'd rather you lose aura than get a brain injury.

Correct.

I'm with you.

This makes a lot of sense.

I also saw a clip of you saying recently that you're not the cool mom.

Not really.

I love that.

I am not a cool mom either.

No.

But what would you say makes you not the cool mom?

I ask a lot of questions.

You know, I want to know, you know,

where you're going and all that.

And

I'm the one of, hey, don't do this and,

you know, stop playing ball in the house, things like that.

No, I did see a clip where I believe it was, you asked your kids what they wanted for their birthday.

And they said Instagram.

Yeah.

Now, how old were they when they said that?

Well, they had been asking for that when they were like

13, 14.

They didn't get phones until they were almost 13.

I love that so much.

Yeah.

And the only reason why we broke down then was because the teachers was like, will you please let your children have phones?

Uh-huh.

Like,

they're being bullied.

And then I was like, I don't care.

Builds character.

Yeah.

I was like, I don't care.

And he was like, no, no, no, you don't understand.

They really do need to have phones.

She's like, and they're going to start getting assignments on.

Yep.

And then when they started, you know, taking the bus and everything, I'm like, all right, let's, let's get them phones.

Yeah.

Cause then I looked at it as I can track them.

So recently I discussed with Kelly Rippa about how I would like to have what I'm calling the kitchen phone and basically have cell phones in the kitchen that live in the kitchen.

That if you need to go to sports, if you need to go a place where your parents are not, that you could take the phone, that your friends could have the phone number, but that the phone doesn't leave essentially the kitchen or the communal living space.

It's not going to your room.

It's not going to the basement.

It's not going anywhere.

I cannot get eyes on you or hear your conversation.

I love that.

And it's right there.

If I ever want to access what you've done on it, it's right there.

Am I going to?

Who the fuck knows?

Who knows?

Who knows?

But that's the fun of it.

That's the fun.

That's right.

And there were a lot of comments that were like, good luck.

And I was like, well,

thank you.

I know you mean that sarcastically, but I'm going to stick to it because I truly think that there is a, we're lost in a way that our kids are now like this.

And some don't know how to interact with other human beings.

They don't know how to hold a conversation.

They don't know how to like simple, simple interactions are lost

because they just want to be right here.

And do you feel like

your kids benefited from not being stuck in their own personal cell phones?

Absolutely.

Our kids are, I think, much more personable.

And we get comments from, you know, our, from adults and our friends, like, oh my God, your kids are so sweet.

They get, they come in, they say hello.

They, you know, they can hold conversations.

They, you know,

and I know that is from

them not being here all the time.

I really am lost on the fact that kids are given cell phones and people are like, oh, you can download this app or you can put parental controls on it.

You know that these kids are learning technology in school.

They're going to surpass us in our technology knowledge by fucking fifth grade.

Absolutely.

And you think they're not going to be able to get around the parental controls?

Kiss my ass.

I have more faith in my oldest daughter.

She'll be cracking everybody's cell phone.

That one's nuts.

In terms of being a cool mom, do we even want to be cool moms?

No.

Isn't that sort of the thrill of being a mom?

That's part of our like rite of passage.

We get to embarrass you.

Yes.

That comes with the territory.

I want, I don't want to be cool.

I don't want to be the cool mom.

No, I want to be the one that like pulls up to school, blasting some ludicrous honks the horn and says, have a great day.

And like draws attention.

And like everyone's like, What is your mom doing?

Does she think she's cool playing that?

Yes.

Yeah, I am.

Right.

And I'm cool to myself.

That's what I do.

Yeah.

And I'm here to embarrass you.

Or if they have a song and they go, oh, this song is so great.

I go, no, well, here's the original.

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh, isn't that funny?

This is what we're going to listen to.

Yes.

Yeah.

Not, not, not the cool mom.

We're better that way.

I cannot thank you enough for coming today.

I would love this.

And chatting.

This is incredible.

Again, I thank you so much for your advocacy on getting the WMBA team here.

I am, as a mom of four daughters, very excited that they will have the opportunity to cheer on female basketball players in our very own city.

It is unbelievably exciting.

And based on the height trajectory that we are on in our household, I might have at least one basketball player.

There you go.

So this could be great.

Yes.

Thank you so, so much.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you.

And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie.

You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Wanda on my YouTube channel on Moreship Monday.

I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode.

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