Kylie on Baby Birthday Parties, WAG Stereotypes & Star-Studded Fashion with Kristin Juszczyk | Ep. 11

Speaker 1 Not gonna lie, today I was holding my nephew and Benny came over and said, put it down.

Speaker 1 So I'm really excited about giving her another sibling.

Speaker 1 Let's start this podcast.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a wave original brought to you by Lululemon.

Speaker 1 I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, big-time germaphobe, very pregnant and keep forgetting, and fan of the two-time Super Bowl champion, Philadelphia Eagles. Go Berts.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Trev. As always, make sure you follow us on social at NGL with Kylie and subscribe to the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 On today's episode, I'm gonna get brutally honest about kids' birthday parties because we got a couple coming up. I'm also gonna bring back a fan favorite segment.
It's been a while.

Speaker 1 Fuck around and find out. So stick around to find out who fucked around this past week.

Speaker 1 After that, I'm so excited for you all to hear my conversation with the fashion designer behind those viral NFL puffer jackets and vests, Kristen Yuszchek.

Speaker 1 Before I get to that, I want to thank all the NGLers for now for watching my Valentine's Day special with Jason. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out.

Speaker 1 I've seen a lot of you commenting that Jason is my emergency contact. Specifically, Optimus Riss commented, and this is Kylie's emergency contact with two crying laughing faces.
No, he's not.

Speaker 1 My husband is not my emergency contact.

Speaker 1 I know, earth-shattering.

Speaker 1 My mother is my emergency contact, and let me tell you why. It has nothing to do with the fact that my emergency contact is

Speaker 1 a good time

Speaker 1 or a little nutty or goofy or any of those things.

Speaker 1 Jason is not my emergency contact because

Speaker 1 he gets so many random people calling him.

Speaker 1 It is insane how many people call him from random phone numbers that he does not pick up a phone call unless it's from someone that he knows and that is saved in his phone.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that being said,

Speaker 1 My emergency contact is my mom because

Speaker 1 if little Lise were to ever call jason

Speaker 1 he would pick up the phone

Speaker 1 without question i have full faith and so the chain of phone calls for my emergency contact situation uh

Speaker 1 is lisa my mom

Speaker 1 and then she would call jason because he would definitely answer her call so I would have it be Jason if I thought he was going to answer the phone.

Speaker 1 I do trust my husband to handle shit

Speaker 1 and to be there for me. So I would have it as my husband, but he won't answer it.
There is something else I need to address about the episode that a lot of you brought up.

Speaker 1 Amanda Browning, B7P, commented, Wait, you exceeded 45 minutes. Pregnancy brain? You know what we do here, guys.
We lift other women up.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 Queen Emma thought that it was necessary to allow more time because Jason and I were supposed to record for an hour and some change.

Speaker 1 And I'm pretty sure we were sitting in that studio for over two hours. I'm not going to blame Queen Emma because I think it was, it, it landed well.
We needed to fit more Jason time.

Speaker 1 I love more Jason time. I

Speaker 1 made a vow to make sure that we hit 45 minutes for those who are busy, who don't want to chop it up into four different listens in a week.

Speaker 1 We're trying to make this efficient, and I'm going to stick to it

Speaker 1 for now. I mean, if there's real hell raised eventually,

Speaker 1 I can adapt.

Speaker 1 I will. But for now, 45 minutes.
Sorry, Queen Hemma.

Speaker 1 Next up, if I'm being honest, it's time for our next segment. Can I be honest?

Speaker 1 Because two of our little ladies have birthdays coming up real soon, I thought this week I'd get brutally honest about a subject that affects all of us as parents.

Speaker 1 Kids' birthday parties.

Speaker 1 We have

Speaker 1 We're about to have three birthdays. Very close together.
I am not a big fan of big birthdays for babies.

Speaker 1 A one-year-old, first of all, a smash cake is very cute, but then who's cleaning it up?

Speaker 1 So I feel like it's just making more work for ourselves.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 would much rather get a cake and give them a piece and then just let them

Speaker 1 go in on it, which is exactly what we've done. For the past couple birthdays, either decorated a cake to to the specifications of the birthday girl, or

Speaker 1 we have ordered a cake to make it special.

Speaker 1 I love doing that because they get to pick it out ahead of time. Ellie picked Tots this year.
So she is getting a Tots birthday cake. If you don't know what that is, shout out to Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 We know what it is. I'm deep in it with Pip and Freddie.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 Benny picked Elsa because she's been very into singing Let It Go recently. So Elsa and I believe Olaf will be on her cake and they are very excited.
We will scroll Pinterest and

Speaker 1 Google search to see some birthday cakes for kids' birthdays and then we order it.

Speaker 1 I think it's very special for them to get to show all of the people who come to celebrate their birthday that they got to pick their cake and how excited they are for it.

Speaker 1 There is a video on my Instagram of Wyatt

Speaker 1 getting a,

Speaker 1 I want to say it was a pink birthday cake with a green dinosaur. I might have that backwards.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 she was very excited about that cake. And you can see that she's like excited to share it with everyone there.
I think that anytime before the age of,

Speaker 1 I would say, like

Speaker 1 birthdays one and two,

Speaker 1 they're for parents, right? Like the cooler's fully stocked.

Speaker 1 It's not, those kids don't know what's going on. I will say I am vehemently against the idea of other kids getting birthday presents on a child's birthday.
So

Speaker 1 I, people,

Speaker 1 like our family knows, no one else is receiving a birthday present. for Bennett's birthday.

Speaker 1 Everyone gets a special day. When When your siblings get presents for your birthday, it reduces

Speaker 1 your birthday. It's not their birthday.
It's your birthday. And also, I think it teaches them to a degree that just because someone's getting presents doesn't mean you get presents.

Speaker 1 It feels very participation trophy-esque

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 not happening. That's it for Can I Be Honest? Last thing before we get to my conversation with Kristen Yuszczak,

Speaker 1 you guys might have seen, I also got the chance to sit down with Alex Cooper for an episode of Caller Daddy while I was in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Now, there's been quite a few tabloid headlines from our conversation, but there's one in particular that's given me no choice but to bring back a segment near and dear to my heart.

Speaker 1 Fuck around and find out.

Speaker 1 The fuck around? Well, that was parade.com. They fucked around when they wrote the following headline.
Why Kylie Kelsey refused to eat Taylor Swift's home-cooked meal on double date with Singer?

Speaker 1 Well, aren't you about to find out?

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 on Call Her Daddy, explained that

Speaker 1 we had gone on a double date, but that it was at home.

Speaker 1 There was a little bit of confusion because that meal at home was like a private dinner.

Speaker 1 So that was no one

Speaker 1 that was done by an outstanding chef.

Speaker 1 The meals, the home-cooked meals that we

Speaker 1 I did not get to enjoy were not because I refused to eat them, but because the child in my womb

Speaker 1 overwhelmed me with hormones that suggested that if I consume anything other than crackers,

Speaker 1 that it might

Speaker 1 be seen again.

Speaker 1 If you catch my drift, anyone that has experienced pregnancy nausea knows that it's not a choice. At eight weeks, that's not a choice.

Speaker 1 I've known women who lived on only waffles for their entire first trimester. There's women who can only stomach cereal or crackers or pretzels.
And you know what?

Speaker 1 Sometimes that's me.

Speaker 1 I didn't refuse anything. I wouldn't refuse anything, especially if I was without child.
Just to set the record straight, the

Speaker 1 weekend that we were together, where I was unable to stomach the dinner home-cooked meal,

Speaker 1 I did get a chance to try, I believe they were confetti, like funfetti pancakes.

Speaker 1 Regardless, they hit.

Speaker 1 They were so good.

Speaker 1 Baby liked them. I loved them.
They were very, very good.

Speaker 1 The thing that bothers me the most about this headline,

Speaker 1 besides the fact that I directly addressed why I didn't eat the meal

Speaker 1 in the Caller Daddy episode, why are we trying to pit women against women? Why are we doing that?

Speaker 1 That seems

Speaker 1 dumb and counterproductive. Anyone that asks me in person,

Speaker 1 I am very forthcoming with how much I love and appreciate her and how much I love

Speaker 1 the fact that you can tell how happy Travis is.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's what I care about. So let's not pit women against women.

Speaker 1 Let's stop writing articles when there's not any beef to write articles about.

Speaker 1 And let's recognize the fact that I would not refuse a home cooked meal. I would not refuse a home cooked meal because I love food.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 unless it's beets. I had a great time taping Caller Daddy.

Speaker 1 It was so much fun to sit down with Alex. She's so good at what she does.
And of course, we got to bond over all things Philadelphia. And

Speaker 1 what better place to do that than in the town that the Eagles were playing?

Speaker 1 There is a social clip out where Alex and I got a chance to discuss that she would not be attending the game, which at first I was very alarmed about.

Speaker 1 As a birds fan, I feel like it's our obligation to be there. And then she

Speaker 1 explained the most logical

Speaker 1 explanation for why she was leaving. Alex was not in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 She was in Arizona. And for anyone who is not an Eagles fan, the Eagles won Super Bowl 52 in Minnesota and lost in Arizona.
So she did her part and went home. And my superstitious ass loves that.

Speaker 1 And again, I'm not saying that that's what worked.

Speaker 1 But Alex did her part.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 good job. Well, if any of the daddy gang listeners are here now,

Speaker 1 Giving NGL a try, welcome.

Speaker 1 If you want to hear more stories about my kids taking off their diapers in their crib or my husband's ran about Twilight, I think you're going to like it here. Welcome.

Speaker 1 I've said it before on this show. I have two looks.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's all I've got.
I've got a comfy athleisure

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 occasionally hard pants.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 As you can see, I'm in one of my favorite everyday looks right now from Lululemon. There's a good chance I'll be wearing something very similar tomorrow and the next day and the day after that,

Speaker 1 the day after that,

Speaker 1 probably the day after that.

Speaker 1 You get it.

Speaker 1 This sweater in particular is the one that I wore to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Paired it with a pair of Lululemon leggings, the aligns, because they feel like butter.

Speaker 1 This sweater, I can't tell you what was underneath of it, but it may have had wings.

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And now it's time for what professional podcasters call a toss to today's guest.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't know that without Queen Emma. She's the fashion designing sensation behind the NFL jackets and vests you've seen everywhere.
She's the founder and chief creative officer of clothing brand.

Speaker 1 Offseason. She's also a fellow NFL wife and does a lot of great work in support of the National Breast Cancer Foundation.
I was so excited to sit down with her in in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Please enjoy my conversation with Kristen Yuszchek.

Speaker 3 One of the things we were just talking about before we got started was

Speaker 3 sort of like the phenomenon of you've been in football with Kyle now for 12 years. Long time.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 one of the things that you guys have done is like jumped around a little bit.

Speaker 3 What teams have you been with? while you've been together.

Speaker 2 So Kyle and I met when he was playing for the Ravens and I was in college. And so he was there for four years and then he signed with the Niners for eight years.

Speaker 2 So we've been really fortunate to only be with two teams. That's what happened often.
Yes.

Speaker 2 So yeah, now the Niners really feel like home. Being with the Ravens feels like a lifetime ago.

Speaker 3 You have done some incredible things, had some severely viral moments, which were so well-deserved. Thank you.
What has been the biggest moment for you so far?

Speaker 2 Truthfully, I feel like this is such a cliche answer, but like every time it almost feels like nothing happens happens for so long and you're trying over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden so many things start happening and you want to stay so present for it.

Speaker 2 And for me, it really like all, I've been sewing for so long and I have always actually all stemmed from Halloween.

Speaker 2 Kyle and I went to a 49ers Halloween party and I know I wanted to be Justin and Brittany. That like, do you remember their VMA look? The dead on.
The dead of Mon Dead on her. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I need to be that. I went on Etsy, couldn't find it.
So I went to Walmart and bought like 20 pairs of jeans.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, I'm just going to start cutting it up and going on a sewing machine and see what I can do. Sure.
And patchwork. Exactly.
And I kind of feel like I blacked out while doing it.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden I had this dress made. And I'm like, something like came over me when I was making it.
And I was just like, wow, I really love doing this. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And once. And how many years ago was that?

Speaker 2 Oh, God. I think that was like seven years ago.
Okay. So it's been a while.

Speaker 3 Did I read somewhere correctly that you're self-taught in sewing? Completely, yeah.

Speaker 2 That's it. So we just went on YouTube.
By the way, you can learn anything from YouTube. It's like...
Isn't it the best? My water heater broke. How do I fix my water heater? YouTube? Perfect.

Speaker 2 Like anything.

Speaker 3 I feel like this, like the younger generation has transitioned to TikTok. TikTok to learn.
And I'm like, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 2 We started with Ash Jeeves.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 3 Gosh, what a throwback.

Speaker 2 Math class, always going into Texas Jeeves. Yes.
What is 2 plus 2?

Speaker 3 But I don't want to have to re-watch the same 60-second video a million times. I want to watch a a YouTube video.
100%.

Speaker 3 I genuinely see YouTube. I want to see all of it.

Speaker 2 Every part of it. Yes.
Yeah. So I literally started from there, like how to, how to thread a machine.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 2 Everything. Like, what kind of tool should I buy?

Speaker 3 If you had to pick one piece that's been your favorite.

Speaker 2 That's like the toughest question. It's like

Speaker 2 a lot of people.

Speaker 2 Depends on the day.

Speaker 3 Let's narrow it down. Outside of things that you've made for yourself.
So things that you've made for other people, maybe commissioned pieces.

Speaker 3 What was your favorite one that you've made?

Speaker 2 I have to say, of course, my puffer coats is like what I love.

Speaker 2 But at the same time, like I have made so many silhouettes that I maybe love more. The puffers is kind of what like got me so much momentum.
So I have to pay homage to them.

Speaker 3 Now, for the people who said that there wasn't a space for what you were doing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Do you not feel like a little bit of like a.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, they're all in my inbox. Hey, following up.
It's like, hey, so sorry we didn't answer you three years ago. Yeah.
Following up, we'd love to collab.

Speaker 3 Are you like, kiss my ass? Yes, 100%. You should a little.

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 3 I do think that like,

Speaker 2 right? That's it.

Speaker 3 Thanks, hun, for the

Speaker 3 DM, but I'm actually really busy. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I do, I think that, like, sometimes it's so funny to see what the messaging was. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Just as short as, like, you said, like, three years ago, like, the idea that three years ago, someone was like there isn't space for this yeah and then to go to the nfc championship game in philly and see how many people had your puffers going both like the jacks

Speaker 3 i'm telling you firsthand

Speaker 3 they were everywhere that makes me so happy i have to get you one and well here's the thing i

Speaker 3 I was just excited to see them. Like, I'm like, of course I would wear it.
And everyone was raving about the quality, which I think is

Speaker 2 what we like really

Speaker 2 took so much time on it.

Speaker 2 But we really launched it in the worst possible time it's funny because we picked the teams back in um april and we were so fortunate that besides my 49ers which was pretty devastating all four teams were in the playoffs and we launched the company in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 Right. So there was a chance that we were launching.

Speaker 3 So you manifested this is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 I've never rooted for those five teams so hard in my life. The way I'm like, E, A, G.

Speaker 2 One of us.

Speaker 2 One of us.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 3 now you, you said you picked five teams.

Speaker 2 Yeah, back in April.

Speaker 3 What does that look like going forward? Are you guys going to integrate all 32 teams?

Speaker 2 We're trying, but like, I want to walk before I run. Sure.
And what was so important to me was making sure people loved them. Yes.
And I'm learning so much still as I go.

Speaker 2 Of course, like I've never met. I've only hand-sewn things before.

Speaker 2 So learning like how to manufacture things and to scale sizing, you know, so I want to make sure I get everything perfected before I keep adding more teams. So, I mean, we've had amazing feedback.

Speaker 2 Yes. But there's, I mean, I'm a perfectionist.
So I'm like looking at like every little teacher like, I got to fix that. I got to fix that.

Speaker 3 Yes. But I think that, that quality is what will have people gravitate towards the brand even more because it means that.
you care about the product.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, they're my, they're my babies. They're my children, those jackets, those jackets, but we have so much more to come.
Like my goal, of course, is to hopefully expand to all 32 eventually.

Speaker 2 And then we have so many drops coming out that are not jackets. I mean, the jackets are amazing, but there's only certain teams that Miami Dolphins aren't going to have pupper coats.
Yes.

Speaker 2 So we have so much like amazing different types of silhouettes that I'm so excited for. And lower price points, too.

Speaker 3 You can tease to us.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 am I going to get it? An excuse.

Speaker 3 If you check with your team after the fact, we'll just blur your mouth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So go ahead.

Speaker 3 And you'll still get to see my reaction. It'll be so excited.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Well, I don't know if I have anything like that, like jaw dropping, to be honest, but we're going to hopefully like post-draft, we'll have drops every month.

Speaker 3 Okay, so like regular

Speaker 2 drops released every month of different silhouettes, adding some teams in there, and then hopefully eventually.

Speaker 3 So are you going to stick with the, are you going to stick with those five?

Speaker 2 We're always going to

Speaker 2 always add.

Speaker 3 The first time that we met,

Speaker 3 we ran into each other at the WNBA game.

Speaker 2 Or no, at the NCAA game.

Speaker 3 Final four for women's basketball much fun which holy hopefully we can plug in a a picture of your jacket yeah for that because it was incredible queen emma's giving me a thumbs up it was the most epic game to be there was freaking packed there was not one seat empty no and it was just epic to watch that game it was incredible to me how many people were there that you would not necessarily expect 100 to be at the ncda right women's basketball fun

Speaker 2 and we were there well claren George is one of our best friends and they went to Iowa.

Speaker 3 So the hot guys are it does it does make it more fun

Speaker 3 when you have a reason to cheer for a team.

Speaker 2 100%. It always makes it more fun.
It's like my whole family, I don't really come from like a big football background. And my Noana, who's 90 years old, she's like, you have me watching NFLs?

Speaker 2 And she loves it just because of Kyle's. Perfect.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But that was the best. New fans, left and right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Right.
Dragging them in. Nine-year-old women.
It's the best.

Speaker 3 That's the demographic they're going for.

Speaker 2 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 One of the other things that we highlighted in your intro

Speaker 3 was the work that you do with breast cancer. Yeah.
Tell us a little more about that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So my mom passed away breast cancer when I was in high school. So it's definitely something that's near and dear to my heart.

Speaker 2 And when I started gaining all that momentum back at the Super Bowl, I got licensed and I had two weeks before the Super Bowl. I'm like, I can't put anything out there.

Speaker 2 So let me just make one and I'll donate anything to charity. And my goal was $5,000.
I was like, if this hits $5,000, that would be amazing. It went for $75,000.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it did.

Speaker 2 Which was insane. That's incredible.
To give that to the National Breast Cancer Foundation, it felt like... Oh, I cried like a billion times that weekend.

Speaker 2 It just felt like such a moment for me to give back. I've always wanted to get involved.

Speaker 2 And I've done a lot of like charity work, but to be able to really give that, it's changed so many women's lives. Like it all went to free mammograms and it was just so amazing.

Speaker 2 And I got got to visit them in texas their headquarters and they make these hope kits that it basically is like a it's a chemotherapy kit so it has like the sour candies and the fuzzy socks and all that and i got to make them for all the patients and they're just so incredible to work with and it's something so near and dear to my heart i mean my mom was sick my whole life so i've i saw her in and out of chemo my entire life so just to be able to like connect with other patients and really their family members too, because I think a lot of people, of course, think of the patient and what they're going through, you know, is really challenging, but it's challenging for everyone around them too.

Speaker 2 Right. So I really got to get involved like in the community.
I still am with all with everyone's families. And it's just, they're the best organization to work with.
I adore them so much.

Speaker 2 That's awesome. Yeah.
There's so much amazing stuff that is like they do,

Speaker 2 you know, it's night and day. They're always the hope kits, the family meetups, the therapy sessions.
So it's never end. We're constantly working with them.

Speaker 3 That's amazing.

Speaker 2 Well, thank you for doing that.

Speaker 3 Oh, because

Speaker 3 the other families that you're impacting are

Speaker 2 probably very, very grateful. And everyone go get your screenings.
It's so important. And it's so easy to not.

Speaker 2 I think, like, when you sometimes, at least I'm this way, like, I'll go to the doctor's three times in a week and then I won't go for three years. Yeah.
Because I just, it's, it's something so hard.

Speaker 2 There's nothing worse than like booking doctor's appointments. Yes.
But it's so important.

Speaker 3 Now, one of the things that we have talked about with a couple other guests

Speaker 3 is the idea of being an NFL wife. Okay.

Speaker 3 I personally do not

Speaker 3 identify as a wag. Yeah, it's a tough word.
First of all, I'm retired, so I don't have to anymore.

Speaker 2 You're a retired guy.

Speaker 3 But I've always found that there is

Speaker 3 a certain degree of like a negative connotation with the term wag.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the sad part is, is that I don't think that everyone intends it. No.
But the vast majority is usually in some type of negative capacity.

Speaker 3 How has it been for you

Speaker 3 being

Speaker 3 in

Speaker 3 that role? Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what I've always found so interesting about that word is that like, there's not a word that describes like a lawyer's wife or like, I don't know, any other type of profession.

Speaker 3 Where did that come from?

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And for me, I take such pride in what my husband does and I love supporting him. It's my favorite thing in the world.
But that doesn't, that's not the only person that I am. I'm my own individual.

Speaker 2 So I think it's, it's definitely that word, like, it makes me crawl out of my skin, truly. I think it always has.
And, but I do feel like we are doing a great job recently of redefining that word.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. And, but it's, it's just like.

Speaker 2 There has been so much female empowerment around whether that's the NFL,

Speaker 2 women in sports.

Speaker 2 sports so it's I mean now I feel honored I try to as we're getting there to be clear you are the perfect example of doing your part in redefining that term we have to because by the way you've how many amazing women have you met in the Eagles organization probably countless best friends countless women and the why that word has a negative tone to it it's like these women are the backbone of these athletes yes and they are making everything else spin so that they can focus only on their career and being successful on the field.

Speaker 2 So they should be praised for that.

Speaker 2 It shouldn't be anything negative. And they're holding down the fort, having babies during season, you know, taking all that is, that in itself is a full-time job.

Speaker 3 Allowing life to continue while football is existing because those are two very different situations and football requires your undivided attention.

Speaker 1 Undivided attention.

Speaker 2 And it really lights me around too.

Speaker 2 Offseason is so short for them. Yes.
And it's not like they just get to turn off. They're just train.

Speaker 3 Offseason, most of the, like, I think a lot of people don't realize that most of the guys are.

Speaker 3 I mean, Jason only used to take, I would say, like two weeks off after season to just sort of decompress, let his body have a break. He would be right back on his lifting schedule.
100%.

Speaker 3 And it was usually four days a week. Yeah.
And it's, I mean, like a regular schedule. Absolutely.
Where I think people are just like, oh, it's offseason.

Speaker 3 You go on like bougie vacations and sit on your ass. It's like, no, we, we did that

Speaker 3 in the two weeks.

Speaker 2 In the two weeks. Yeah, exactly.
But I mean, honestly, I've met so many amazing women in the NFL. I mean, some of my truly best friends for life and the families that come together.

Speaker 2 Like the word wag has been now, now I love it. Now when people call me that, but I remember when I first met Kyle, I was like, oh, please don't call me that.
I hate that word. Stop.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was, it's, it's almost the idea that, like, that term.

Speaker 3 It almost puts a ceiling.

Speaker 2 It puts a ceiling on you almost.

Speaker 2 And I kind of found that when I first started this whole thing, it was almost like some people think that I have an advantage because of Kyle, but I don't, I really do feel like in the industry, it's been a disadvantage for me.

Speaker 3 I was going to say, I feel like you are probably

Speaker 2 dismissed. Very much so.

Speaker 3 Because it's like, oh, she's just a wife.

Speaker 2 She's trying to have a hobby. 100%.
Or she's just crafty. crafty i hate that word crafty i'm like this isn't seventh grade home ec she's doing diy projects in her living room

Speaker 3 yeah 100 um yeah no i think that you are doing an outstanding job of helping to redefine that term and make sure that it's uh

Speaker 3 more of a positive note 100

Speaker 3 because

Speaker 3 So often I think the term wag pigeonholes women into

Speaker 3 you are defined solely by your husband's

Speaker 3 career or your significant other's career.

Speaker 2 And you can't have a life of your own outside of that.

Speaker 3 Well, that's just it.

Speaker 3 I think I do think that there are there are some women very sadly who get sucked into that hole of thinking that they should be defined by their spouse or their significant others

Speaker 3 role on the team,

Speaker 3 like how many years they've been there.

Speaker 2 I think you get lost so easily in that. And that was what was hard for me when I moved out to California.

Speaker 2 i left all my i'm from new york all my friends and family are from new york i didn't know a single person out in california i had to leave my job so now i'm living in california just moved out there he has a full slate schedule and i'm like well what do i who am i yeah what do i do i really do think like

Speaker 3 that it's becoming more and more clear yeah that the women who are associated with players in the nfl specifically because i can't speak for every other league but the nfl specifically i I mean, even the Eagles alone, like we have women who are traveling nurses, like travel nurses, we have lawyers, we have women who are pursuing degrees to either be a doctor, to be a lawyer, to be a PA.

Speaker 3 And it's so silly to me that just because you are with someone, that you then get pigeonholed into like, oh, you're a wag. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that defines you. And that's all you are.
It's so archaic, but it's ridiculous. It's archaic because that's not the world we live in at all.

Speaker 2 But for some reason in the athletic world, that's how people view females in it.

Speaker 2 I also feel like it's a very team by team thing in the sense where a lot, some teams do such a good job at bringing women together. Yes.

Speaker 3 Community-based. Yes.

Speaker 2 And I think that is what's so important. We came to the 49ers.
eight years ago and it was a completely clean slate. They had just hired

Speaker 2 Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. So I think it was like a really challenging year because there was not that like vet on the team.
There was no leadership.

Speaker 3 I always say like a like a flock without a shepherd.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that was

Speaker 3 just like a flock of sheep that are like mindlessly wandering and you're all like, who's gonna do it?

Speaker 2 Anyone? Anyone?

Speaker 2 Not me.

Speaker 3 Who's planning the holiday party? Anybody?

Speaker 2 Anybody?

Speaker 2 That's the worst. But that's, it's so true.

Speaker 3 It's crazy to be in those moments of like, where you're just sort of like looking at each other. Nobody wants to step on toes.
Nobody wants to be the person that sort of oversteps.

Speaker 3 But at the same time, you're like, we can't just

Speaker 2 pretend

Speaker 2 you need a community to lift you up. Yes.

Speaker 3 And I think it's, I agree with you. I've heard, we were lucky enough to, my husband was with the Eagles his whole career.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I am so fortunate for that because of the community that we had there.

Speaker 3 But I've heard varying stories across the league of women's moving cities

Speaker 3 and having clear favorites just based on the vibe

Speaker 3 and the leadership and how they led the other women.

Speaker 2 When we first came out to the 49ers, I had never, and to be fair, I was in college when Kyle was with the Ravens and they were a great organization to Kyle.

Speaker 2 I had never really like met anybody. And when we came to the 49ers, Kyle Shanahan throws a party when he the 53-man roster at his house.

Speaker 2 And I was like, We're meeting the head coach. I've never met the head coach.
We're like at his house. And that starts the year off on the best tone.
It's like, it's with all coaches.

Speaker 3 It's so family-oriented.

Speaker 2 And he learned it from his dad. His dad did that.
And it's just

Speaker 2 passed down to him, but it is the best thing ever. And it starts the year off on the, you know, right note.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Because I have always found that the organizations that really put the families first are the most successful organizations.

Speaker 2 Because if you're not happy at home, if you're a player and you're coming home to a miserable wife. Guys, happy wife.
Yeah, happy life. This is not difficult.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Happy team, but it's so true.
Those are the most successful organizations. Right.
I think we just solved something.

Speaker 3 We did. I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles are very much.

Speaker 3 And like the time that we've been there, and I think Jason can attest to it even before I, he and I were together, has been like very family focused.

Speaker 2 Yeah, isn't it the best?

Speaker 3 It's, it's so refreshing because I think that they realize how much football,

Speaker 3 although it is their career and their job and they get to go to work and then come home, how much of it comes home with them.

Speaker 2 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 3 So addressing that is really, I think, important.

Speaker 2 And definitely.

Speaker 3 Also, how much time they're away, like to feel included to some degree makes you feel a little less like you're out on an island. 100%.

Speaker 2 During collectively, which is so fun for me to like listen to Kyle's meetings and stuff. Yeah.
It's another language, by the way. Oh, no idea what the heck they're talking about.

Speaker 2 They're like chair, zebra, cat, dance.

Speaker 2 It's a different language.

Speaker 3 Jason's a line coach, coach Stoutland, the whole Stoutland family, but getting to hear Stout and getting to listen into meetings, I was like, this is the best thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 Wasn't it so much fun? Oh, it's fascinating. I loved it, but I couldn't understand a word they were saying.
No, but I love it. No, the play calls.
It's like, what is this? It was.

Speaker 2 I told Kyle recently. I didn't get much.
I love football and I know football really well, but of course, there's a lot of things I don't know.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I want you to teach me how to play Madden so I can like learn the plays because I'll see things, but like as they're actually a great strategy to learn.

Speaker 3 Right? Yes.

Speaker 2 As they line up, Claire knows so much. She like the way George lines up, she knows the play that he will play.
And I can't see that.

Speaker 2 I know so much about that, but I'm like, I want to learn how to play Madden. So you're going to catch me next.
We put like a headset on sunflower seeds and energy drain.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be like, man, Madden.

Speaker 3 We'll see you.

Speaker 2 That's when you say the cage. That's when you say that.
That's when I'm crawling out of my cage. Got it.
Kyle will never be more attracted to me in my life if I start playing Madden.

Speaker 3 It's perfect. It really is a great strategy to learn.

Speaker 2 I think so. That's me.
He's like, that's how I learned as a kid. That's awesome.
And then I'll know every player in the league. Right.

Speaker 2 Then you'll be even

Speaker 2 better.

Speaker 2 Yeah, even better prepared to

Speaker 3 do more merch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly with the PA. I'll know every single player.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 I'm not one to give myself compliments. I've kind of built a brand around that.

Speaker 1 But the sweatshirt I'm wearing in this conversation with Kristen, just a fantastic choice. Lululemon for the win.

Speaker 1 When I'm not in the third trimester of my pregnancy and I'm in my regular workout routine, I'm also wearing Lululemon when I train.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 absolutely cannot wait to get baby girl out,

Speaker 1 resume my hot girl walks in my hotty hot high-rise line short in the four inch

Speaker 1 because she's a modest hotty hot girly.

Speaker 1 Also, huge fan of the five inch track that high rise line short.

Speaker 1 Yes.

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Speaker 3 The last thing we'll do is a segment I like to call Keep or Cut. Okay.

Speaker 3 Again, because of your fashion knowledge,

Speaker 3 I will go through and it's a little bit like rapid fire.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 3 I do think some of these I know the answer to, but I just want you to declare it.

Speaker 3 Because again, these are things, a lot of these things are things that I would not personally wear, but it's just because like it's not my personal style.

Speaker 2 Subjective. Yes.
I love it.

Speaker 3 Crop tops.

Speaker 2 Keep.

Speaker 2 You're like, hate.

Speaker 3 No, I don't hate them. I don't.
I think that the fact that like high-waisted pants are more readily available now. Well, my whole style.

Speaker 2 I guess I said I didn't have a style. People probably know.
I wear a crop top and baggy jeans, probably, like anytime I go out. So I guess that is kind of like my style.

Speaker 3 I will say, like, the high-waisted.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But after having. four children, I fear I am, I need a little time before I can get myself back into crop top.

Speaker 2 So oh, I was going to say, I thought you were going to say high-waisted jeans. I was like, where are you going to go? Roll rise? Well, I know, no, no.

Speaker 2 God, no. I mean, that is the look with the belly out.

Speaker 2 With the pregnant belly out.

Speaker 3 With the pregnant belly out. The Brianna, you mean?

Speaker 2 The Brianna.

Speaker 2 Next podcast, please. It will not be me.
It will not be me.

Speaker 3 I'm always like lubed up with so much cocoa butter. I always say.

Speaker 2 Is that your go-to?

Speaker 3 I cocoa butter. I just told someone the other day, you could send me down a dry slip and slide and I'd get to the end of it.
Like, it is disgusting how much they're doing.

Speaker 2 Do you use oils ever?

Speaker 3 No. Okay.
Because I'm afraid it'll stain my clothes.

Speaker 2 And your bed sheets and stuff. I actually feel that to my core.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I'm fighting the good fight with children staining my clothes and myself, really, honestly.
Like, who am I fooling? It's, it's me and the kids. I get it.
I get it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's a serious thing.

Speaker 2 Make that a trend. Stained clothes.
Yeah. To restart that.
Perfect.

Speaker 3 They'll be like, is your shirt tie-dye? And I'll be like, no, it's belly oil.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, there used to be a thing back a few years ago, sneakers. Like, do you remember they would drop sneakers that look dirty? I don't know if you've seen that.
But yeah.

Speaker 2 So why don't we have shirts that like have stains? Perfect. It's basically the same thing.
Do that as

Speaker 2 one of your releases. Last season.
Okay, perfect. Call the Kylie drop.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 The next one is tiny sunglasses, keep her cut.

Speaker 2 How tiny are we talking?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 2 like really tiny. I have to say cut.

Speaker 3 You like it.

Speaker 2 Or even if I can pull it off.

Speaker 3 I feel like it needs some function.

Speaker 2 Oh, it needs some function.

Speaker 3 It's so cute, but like you can't have it so small. It also depends who wears it.

Speaker 2 Like, I think Travis rocks those tiny sunglasses that he wears sometimes. But I, but he's so fashionable.
He is very fashionable.

Speaker 3 And in a way, where like there are things that, and this happens all the time,

Speaker 3 there are things that I see other people wear, and I'm like, that is so cool.

Speaker 2 I'm the same way, though. I can never pull off those little sunglasses.
Like the triangles, never.

Speaker 2 I can't do it. But he looks amazing in them.

Speaker 3 It must be nice to be able to own something so hard.

Speaker 3 Leopard print.

Speaker 3 I will tell you honestly, this would be a cut for me.

Speaker 2 Personally, cut.

Speaker 2 I wore a leopard dress to my eighth grade formal.

Speaker 3 I was going to say, I still remember a double dress.

Speaker 2 And that was probably the last time I wore a leopard.

Speaker 3 I still remember a leopard print dress. It was like the sisterhood of the traveling dress around our college dorm.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yep, yep. And every

Speaker 2 I haven't worn leopard in a really long time.

Speaker 3 I think we should maybe keep it that way.

Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, there we go. Okay, cut.
We'll cut it.

Speaker 3 Cut it.

Speaker 2 You're going to see me on leopard next week, right? I'm going to be like, I thought we cut this.

Speaker 3 This one I feel strongly about.

Speaker 3 Uggs, keep or cut.

Speaker 2 Oh, keep, keep, keep. Thank God.
I have my Uggs here in my. I have, they're like a security blanket.

Speaker 2 Are my favorite thing ever. I'll tell you what, for a tall girl in high school,

Speaker 3 when you started folding over the Uggs and then like the yoga pants would sit on the top of it,

Speaker 3 then you couldn't tell that I looked like a flood was coming.

Speaker 3 Every pant was too short.

Speaker 2 It was every high schooler's uniform. It was and it still is my uniform every day.
I wear my Ugg slippers every single day. Kyle yells at me because I wear them outside.

Speaker 2 He's like, they're not slippers anymore. If you wear them outside and you wear them inside, I'm like,

Speaker 2 pick your battles.

Speaker 3 All right, so keep Uggs. Keep, keep.
The last one, and I, again, I feel like we know this one because of the OG Halloween costume. Okay.
Denim on denim. Oh, keep, keep.

Speaker 2 Perfect. A million times over.
The Canadian tuxedo is everything. I love that.
And it is hard though. Different washes.
Yeah, that's challenging.

Speaker 2 I actually think it takes a certain person to pull it off.

Speaker 1 It's not me.

Speaker 2 I think it can be.

Speaker 1 Give it a shot, Kai.

Speaker 2 Oh, please. I'll just put these things up.

Speaker 2 Yes. Okay, perfect.
Okay, I'm going to put you in low-rise jeans, belly out, with my cheer top Uggs. We're going to do it all.

Speaker 3 That wraps up Keeper Cut. I cannot thank you enough for coming to chat today.
I want to make sure that I give your props on

Speaker 3 really leading the way for and helping to further the

Speaker 3 image that women who are with football players or professional athletes in general, that you are building this empire and you're answering.

Speaker 2 I'm answering a cry.

Speaker 3 Well, you're answering a call that needed to be answered

Speaker 3 no matter who told you. whatever they said three years ago.

Speaker 3 And it's so much fun getting to see you be creative and to see people appreciate that and get to get to hype you up about it.

Speaker 2 I'll get right back at you. I love how raw you are.
It's the most refreshing thing. And I think that's why you've resonated so well with the whole world because that's what we need.

Speaker 2 No one wants to see anything polished, right? We're so over it. We don't need to see that or we don't need to hear it.
So I love everything you stand for. I listen to every one of your episodes.

Speaker 2 It's just the best thing ever.

Speaker 3 We have another one here.

Speaker 2 I will definitely not listen to this because I can't stand listening to my own voice. Well, everyone listening to me.
Do you listen to your podcast?

Speaker 3 Not in its entirety.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. You're like, don't tell them that.
Emma is appalled. Listening to your own voice is

Speaker 3 challenging. It's interesting.

Speaker 2 I listen to them. Like, oh, gosh, like, nails on a challenge.

Speaker 3 Well, I can tell you right now that I am absolutely certain that the NGLers are going to love this one. And I can't thank you enough for coming to join us.
Thanks, Kylie.

Speaker 1 You're the best. You can find even more clips from our conversation on my YouTube channel on More Ship Monday.
I also chose four finalists for the fan base name. Find out which one I picked on Monday.

Speaker 1 And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode.
Spoiler alert, it's another good one.

Speaker 1 We have a little NGL field trip planned and I can't wait to reveal who our guest is. I am so hyped.

Speaker 1 So hype.

Speaker 1 I can't even contain myself. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
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