Kylie on Marrying Into Fandom, Pop Culture Crash Course & Postpartum Lies with Amanda Hirsch | Ep. 7

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Speaker 3 Not gonna lie,

Speaker 3 that Eagles game shaved years off of my life. I have at least four new gray hairs.

Speaker 3 At least.

Speaker 3 Let's get into this podcast.

Speaker 3 Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave Original brought to you by Duncan. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, daughter of Big Ed and Lil Lise, future minivan driver, and the new owner of a butter pecan

Speaker 3 friendship bracelet that I got last week at the late show.

Speaker 3 I know.

Speaker 3 It's dunking colors too.

Speaker 3 Gosh, you guys get me. As always, make sure you follow us on social at NGL with Kylie and subscribe to the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 Coming up on today's episode, the NFL playoffs are an emotional time for fans, but Today, I want to help out all the relatively sane partners of fans who simply married into the madness with some tips on how to be a good sports spouse.

Speaker 3 After that, I'm so excited to be joined by everyone's favorite pop culture queen and the woman behind the not skinny but not fat empire, Amanda Hirsch.

Speaker 3 Another person I have no business speaking to. But before we get to any of that, I'd like to start things off with, can I be honest?

Speaker 3 With only a couple months left to go, I'm in the final stretch here with baby number four, so I figured I'd get honest about preparing for my fourth baby versus my first.

Speaker 3 This time around, I've done nearly nothing.

Speaker 3 We are about 10 weeks out from meeting this child, if all goes to plan. And

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 have ordered a new baby seat.

Speaker 3 The baby seats that sit on the floor, those sort of sling style seats,

Speaker 3 I ordered a new one that has a wide base and is about the height of a high chair. The reason I did that was because

Speaker 3 I have a slight concern that her three older sisters may run past and clothesline her.

Speaker 3 And in that situation, it is very much a springy effect.

Speaker 3 I don't want to know what the end of that looks like. I'm not going to lie.
I know a lot of people do a lot to prepare for having a child,

Speaker 3 including educational avenues. So, reading books, taking birth classes.

Speaker 3 I didn't do any of it.

Speaker 3 Not even for Wyatt.

Speaker 3 The books that people read,

Speaker 3 good on you.

Speaker 3 It's not me.

Speaker 3 And I didn't do it. And I don't plan on doing it now

Speaker 3 because that seems silly.

Speaker 3 We are no closer to choosing a baby name.

Speaker 3 We

Speaker 3 have had absolutely no progress whatsoever. I have seen a number of people DMing me, telling me baby name suggestions.

Speaker 3 What I will say in response to that is:

Speaker 3 when you suggest a baby name, think of the nicknames that would then go along with that name.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 3 I know a lot of great Garys,

Speaker 3 but I cannot name my daughter Garrett, knowing that her name, her nickname would be Gary.

Speaker 3 You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 Also, merit, we have received a lot.

Speaker 3 I am,

Speaker 3 I like Christmas, but I don't need to feel

Speaker 3 merry. You know? Can I be really honest before we finish? Can I be honest?

Speaker 3 There's a good chance that this child doesn't even get two Ts. I know.

Speaker 3 People are very invested in this, but I just feel like a curveball might be fun. And also,

Speaker 3 we've run out, I think. So just prepare yourselves.
If we don't have two T's, it's okay. And she's still one of us.

Speaker 3 Now that really does it for Can I Be Honest? Moving on, there's something else going on in my life that's a close second to my growing family, and that is this Philadelphia Eagles

Speaker 3 situation.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm going to call it.

Speaker 3 Don't worry.

Speaker 3 I do have the wooden spoon again,

Speaker 3 but I'm going to try my best not to need it.

Speaker 3 So there might be some situations where I need you to read between the lines.

Speaker 3 Shout out to the spoons last week. I'm not saying it worked, but

Speaker 3 you saw it.

Speaker 3 That's kind of making me want to knock on

Speaker 3 shit.

Speaker 3 So early. Okay,

Speaker 3 you guys know I'm crazy, as evidenced by the spoons, but I realize some of you actually are normal and just married into this.

Speaker 3 And since I didn't live stream myself at the game on Sunday, thank goodness,

Speaker 3 I'm going to check out a few clips of Eagles fans to explain what I'm getting at here. Show them my people, Queen Emma.

Speaker 3 It's the pacing and yelling for me and the cursing at the TV as if the person can hear you. A lot of middle fingers are necessary.

Speaker 3 It just feels good to flip a hard bird. Everybody knows that.
I like when there's tears, but you can't tell whether this, the crying is happy or sad tears.

Speaker 3 If you're dealing with a similar level of fandom in your home, I want you to know that I'm here for you too. Here are my tips on how to be a good sports spouse.

Speaker 3 Tip one, accept the fact that the team will dominate your partner's thoughts for a while. Okay, this applies to pregame and post-game.

Speaker 3 Okay, pre-game, they're going to need to be getting mentally ready, mentally ready for anything that could possibly unfold and then post-game they're going to be watching highlights at 6 a.m at full volume okay because who doesn't want to relive that saquan barkley run for a touchdown with snow on the ground god that was beautiful you may ask your spouse to take the dog out and suddenly hear them screaming go birds at the neighbors um that's a bonding experience uh and i know that you might think that that's embarrassing but that's camaraderie between neighbors.

Speaker 3 That's going to be the neighbor that sees a package out front and snags it for you to make sure it stays safe. Okay? That's that go birds bonding.
Don't be embarrassed about that. Okay?

Speaker 3 It just, it's a perk.

Speaker 3 This next tip hits very close to home. Number two, don't question our superstitions.

Speaker 3 We know we're being irrational,

Speaker 3 but whatever gets us that W,

Speaker 3 that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 Superstitions may include, but are not limited to, knocking on various items made of wood,

Speaker 3 crossing your arms or legs in any specific way, moving seats, standing in a specific spot, making sure that your drink is aligned properly on the coffee table, maybe eating the exact same things every week or drinking the exact same things every week,

Speaker 3 a specific volume number.

Speaker 3 I know that this all sounds a little outside of the box, but you just need to be supportive. So instead of calling out our sickness, I suggest playing along or honestly, taking the day off.

Speaker 3 Treat yourself to something you'd rather be doing. Get out of the house.

Speaker 3 But if you're going to be in a shared space, with the spouse,

Speaker 3 you need to be there and you need to be supportive. Okay? And that includes superstitions.
Number three, if the team loses, give your partner time to grieve.

Speaker 3 AKA, the cry it out method that Queen Emma very nicely pointed out.

Speaker 3 Very similar.

Speaker 3 I would say that

Speaker 3 we probably need to live by the 24-hour rule, which is something that a lot of athletes personally live by.

Speaker 3 But in the playoffs, very different.

Speaker 3 Very different. You're going to need days, okay, days to dwell on it, to maybe re-watch some of the clips, figure out where they went wrong.

Speaker 3 Make sure that we are ready to assess the situation, address it in the offseason, and be back and ready for anything

Speaker 3 the next season. It just,

Speaker 3 very simple. We need time.

Speaker 3 Okay, so just make sure that you're prepared to give us that space.

Speaker 3 And if you prepare for it and you don't need it, even better.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 But seriously, like, let us grieve.

Speaker 3 Number four, do not tell us it's just a game.

Speaker 3 It's not.

Speaker 3 I think that anyone who has a serious sports spouse will know

Speaker 3 that

Speaker 3 a win or a loss can very much dictate, at the very least, how the next 24 to 48 hours goes in your house. And because of that, it's not just a game.

Speaker 3 You know that this has the possibility of lifting up or tearing down our city

Speaker 3 as a whole.

Speaker 3 You don't, that's not a game.

Speaker 3 That's our lives.

Speaker 3 Come on. Like I said, be supportive.
And tip number five,

Speaker 3 talk shit with us.

Speaker 3 If we're yelling at the TV, join in.

Speaker 3 This is not just a me thing. You are more than welcome, more than welcome to yell not only positive things, but negative things as well.

Speaker 3 As long as you are directing them at the people who deserve them.

Speaker 3 Without fail, you can do that to the opposing team.

Speaker 3 Even if the opposing team has not done a single thing to piss off your spouse in the last, let's say, three to five minutes, you can still hit them with a

Speaker 3 fuck, how about them?

Speaker 3 It will still be well received. Because at that point,

Speaker 3 we are just hunkered down

Speaker 3 anything and everything against our opponent. Okay, so

Speaker 3 take note. Bonus, if you dare to take us to a watch party, give people fair warning.
Do not take a crazy sports spouse out of the house into someone else's home and expect

Speaker 3 that

Speaker 3 the friends you're going to spend the day with have seen what they are about to see. So you should engage in a full warning.
You should probably

Speaker 3 take gifts or

Speaker 3 high-reward foods

Speaker 3 because

Speaker 3 they deserve a thank you for putting up with something that you agreed to when you said I do. That does it for my tips on how to be a good sports spouse.

Speaker 3 If both people in your relationship are intense fans, all I can say is good fucking luck and go birds.

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Speaker 3 She's a pop culture expert with a massive following on Instagram as well as on her podcast of the same iconic name, not skinny, but not fat.

Speaker 3 She's also a red carpet correspondent, a mother of two, a wife, and one of the funniest follows out there. Amanda Hirsch, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.

Speaker 4 Thank you. That was so nice.
Thank you. Thank you for having me on like the number one podcast in the world,

Speaker 4 Kylie.

Speaker 3 Barely.

Speaker 4 Stop. It is.

Speaker 3 I started following you when

Speaker 3 the Emma Stone clip came out.

Speaker 4 Hey, nice to meet you.

Speaker 3 I love your pod. My what? Podcast.
You do?

Speaker 3 Goodbye.

Speaker 3 Everyone, I quit for the day.

Speaker 3 Your reaction was so chill and yet so perfectly hype.

Speaker 3 Like there was this underlying, just like, I've made it.

Speaker 3 And also, like, uh, we can leave it. Like, just like the quick wit of like, we can go.
We, I'm done here was outstanding. The vibe passed.

Speaker 4 I know. That was Emma Stone.
Listen, when I met her,

Speaker 4 I that I, I was working that event. It was like a Vove champagne event.

Speaker 4 And until that night, the big guest was supposed to be Margot Robbie, which is obviously a very exciting exciting interview as well. And last minute, they got Emma Stone instead.

Speaker 4 And I was like, oh my God, I love her so much.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 who could have ever thought in my life that that would be what she would say?

Speaker 4 That she said, I love your pod, because we didn't, everyone is an audience.

Speaker 4 But she, and I, and I genuinely thought she said pad. And I thought there was like a period pad on my face because what could she be talking about?

Speaker 4 She tried to be funny because she is so funny and I didn't get it, you know, and, and it was, and it was such a moment, but I have to say she was so sweet and fun and got it right away and like was in on it.

Speaker 4 And just even after, she was just exactly what you would want. Emma Son to be IRL.

Speaker 4 And that is kind of what happens with these, which I'm sure you know, you, you're meeting a lot of like celebs and a-listers and whatever.

Speaker 4 And it's like, usually like the bigger they are, the fucking like cooler and nicer. You know what I mean? It's not like, you know, you might think, you know, and they're

Speaker 4 standoffish or something.

Speaker 3 Well, you hold out hope, I think, when you see these people climb to the top and are so successful.

Speaker 3 And you hold out hope that to some degree they are as awesome as you have made them out to be in your brain.

Speaker 3 And when they deliver, when you meet them, you're like, hell yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You kind of get like,

Speaker 3 like, you just, it, it, the reaffirm, it, the fact that it reaffirms what you've already built up. You're like, this is great.
This is great news. Thank you for not letting me down.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're a great thing. And then you take it a step too far and you're like, we're going to be best friends.
Okay. Maybe not that.
Fine. Okay.
Reel it in.

Speaker 3 This feels great. I think we're, I think we have something here.
Yeah, but we have something here.

Speaker 4 It's happening. We're going to be best friends.

Speaker 3 Before we go any further, I have to ask

Speaker 3 about

Speaker 3 the name not skinny but not fat. So dumb.
How did you initially choose that name?

Speaker 4 So dumb.

Speaker 4 So I should be, I should be prouder of you.

Speaker 3 I can tell you love it now.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Lo, here's the thing. When I started, do you remember

Speaker 4 like 2015, 2015 was the year of like meme accounts? Yes. Right.
So I'll name a few. Fat Jewish, fuck Jerry, my therapist says yeah beige cardigan like all these

Speaker 4 gosh what what throwbacks geez louise i know am i aging myself no because these are all ringing a bell so i actually started in 2015 or 16 as a meme account

Speaker 4 okay so when i started and had an idea like oh all these funny things that people are writing like I love to write and and I wanted to do that too just for fun or even to just like you know, relate to other people.

Speaker 4 Um, because I think I was like going through a depressed time and like, I loved just reading those like quick, funny, you know, memes, they were called at the time.

Speaker 4 So I was like, you know, you know, those late night bedtime thoughts.

Speaker 4 I was like going to bed and I was like, I will open a meme account, like literally, and I will call it not to name it, literally, just because my brain was wired in those names.

Speaker 4 Like everybody had a name that was like catchy and like, you know, so, and I thought it was genius that my brain came up with this at night and started it the next day.

Speaker 3 Now, you have gotten the opportunity on your podcast to

Speaker 3 talk to so many different celebrities and reality TV stars.

Speaker 3 I always jokingly say that I, on the show specifically, you would be included in this list now of I get to talk to people that I have no business talking to. Is there one guest that you've had that

Speaker 3 caught you off guard more than others? In terms of like that you were shocked that you had the opportunity to speak to them?

Speaker 4 Well, Ryan Reynolds, I'll tell you why, because he

Speaker 4 and Kristen Stewart, oh my God, Kristen Stewart.

Speaker 4 I was even more than Ryan Reynolds because she is so cool, right?

Speaker 4 You just see her and you're like, okay, coolest human on earth that like, even with Ryan, I was like, okay, he has some like basic bitch millennial in him, you know?

Speaker 4 He'll say it. He is a basic bitch millennial.
So Kristen Stewart is not. Like, to me, I was just like, she's too, oh, and I was pregnant.

Speaker 4 Kylie, do you ever get this when you're pregnant, you feel less cool?

Speaker 3 A thousand percent. Okay.

Speaker 4 So in my mind, Kristen Stewart came up, came on when I was bumping, like I was so pregnant.

Speaker 4 And I was like, if I wasn't pregnant, I'd be like smoking a cigarette with her and like be like, what drug are we doing?

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, you're like trying to say a whole sentence without heavy breathing. Exactly.
How uncool is that?

Speaker 4 And by the way, I couldn't shut up about it. So I kept telling her this while she was on my podcast.
I'd be like, it's uncool to be pregnant. I know.
It's so uncool to be growing a human. I know.

Speaker 4 And she was just like, yeah, totally. I even told her, I was like, you're just so cool.

Speaker 4 And really, I was like, do you watch any reality TV? No, like all the things, like, you could just tell she's too cool for all those things. However, I still managed to kind of find the like,

Speaker 4 the relatable Kristen Stewart. And that's like the best part.
Like when people listened to the episode and were like, we saw a side of her that we didn't see.

Speaker 4 And, you know, she's usually like this in interviews and she was more open. I was like, that to me is the biggest

Speaker 4 compliment I could ever get in my life. Obviously, that she was willing to come and she came.

Speaker 4 And then that people saw a different side of her and that she kind of was like, I got that little basic bitch out of her, like a tiny bit, even there's so little, but I got some of it, you know.

Speaker 4 But that, that, those are really cool moments, obviously. Um,

Speaker 4 yeah, she was, she was super cool.

Speaker 3 That actually leads us into our next segment perfectly. Um,

Speaker 3 this segment is, is titled Coach Me Up.

Speaker 3 Um,

Speaker 3 I have said before that um, you are a pop-up culture expert, and I'm not gonna lie, I am so bad at keeping up with any of that, I can't even put it into words.

Speaker 3 I do not watch really reality TV.

Speaker 3 I don't keep up with celebrity happenings.

Speaker 3 So I'm just wondering.

Speaker 4 I'm here for you, Kylie.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 this is where it goes.

Speaker 3 This is where I need you to coach me up. I'm hoping that you can give me a little bit of a crash course here.
So I have a list of some pop culture questions.

Speaker 3 And if you could answer them for me, I feel like you might be able to put me on a, on a better track. My first question here is,

Speaker 3 if I were to watch any of the real housewives,

Speaker 3 which city

Speaker 4 should it be?

Speaker 4 I would say, which this is probably unpopular, I would say New York or New Jersey. And this is why I think for you, yes, because you're an East Coast girl.

Speaker 4 So for me personally, like I like those franchises, even though everyone would be like Beverly Hills, you know, whatever. But I'm from New York.
I want to see what they're doing in New York.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Sure. And/or New Jersey, because I'm familiar with it and it's like still here and they come into the city.

Speaker 4 So I feel like because you're an East Coast girl, like you would care more about that, relate more to it,

Speaker 4 feel it more, get into it more. So yeah, I would say New York or New Jersey to go back though to the OG days, like not start at present day.

Speaker 3 Great.

Speaker 3 what is

Speaker 3 vander pump rules oh my god

Speaker 4 we have work to do

Speaker 3 when I so we obviously have really we have like so we have a rundown okay here that Queen Emma puts together and then we go through it ahead of the show and we decide how to like pick and choose.

Speaker 3 When she wrote this, she said, I'm assuming you don't know what Vanderpump Rules is. And I said, you assumed right.

Speaker 3 I know that there is a like pretty matriarch, dark-haired woman who is the

Speaker 3 head.

Speaker 3 That's all I know. That's all I got.
I couldn't tell you who else is involved in the show. I couldn't tell you that woman's name.
Sure.

Speaker 4 You and Jason play head-to-head. Who's better at pop culture? Sav?

Speaker 3 Like, would he know Vanderpump Rules?

Speaker 4 I don't think so. Would he know more than you?

Speaker 3 I don't think so.

Speaker 4 Okay. So you're saying you might be the better one of the two, of you two, which is

Speaker 3 a shame. It's so sad.
That's so embarrassing. Well,

Speaker 4 Vanderpump Rules, it's in the title. That woman with the hair is Lisa Vanderpump.
Perfect. This actually connects with our first question.

Speaker 4 She was on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and her business was managing a restaurant called Sur.

Speaker 4 And she was like, and the producers who would follow her would be like, wait, you have drama on the housewives, but we see that your staff is like hot, sexy. They're all having sex or all whatever.

Speaker 4 Maybe we should do a show about them. And so she started producing that show, which then became Vanderpump Rules because she was the boss of this restaurant.

Speaker 4 All of the staff were were like fucking each other, like doing wild shit.

Speaker 3 So it's based in a restaurant?

Speaker 4 Right, but they are like 45 now, so they haven't been working at the restaurant. Like there have been like 10 seasons or something.

Speaker 4 So, but I'm so glad that now you know, I'm like gonna take this honor with me that now you know, at least like what it is.

Speaker 3 I will take that knowledge with me. This is so bad.
Um,

Speaker 3 if I were to start watching any reality dating show,

Speaker 3 which would you recommend? I will say I have heard a lot about Love Island. I have not seen a single episode.

Speaker 4 I wasn't thinking Love Island for you. I was thinking for you, Love is blind.
I feel like your love is blind.

Speaker 3 Okay, is love is blind when they are speaking through a wall. Yeah, I'm assuming.

Speaker 4 And it's snowflakes, so it's

Speaker 3 meet up at the end in a weird little hallway.

Speaker 4 Um, yeah,

Speaker 3 I've seen the hallway in TikTok clips.

Speaker 4 So I think that's where I would start for you. I think Love Island is like too much for you.
It's, it's throwing you in. It's like 65 episodes.
I'm not lying.

Speaker 4 It's literally 65 because Love Island is shot like Big Brother, where it's like the cameras are just there all day. So it goes up every day.

Speaker 4 It's one a day for the whole like three weeks that they're there in this villa.

Speaker 4 So every day, it's literally a show a day. So there are literally like 60 episodes.

Speaker 4 So that's not for you. That's not for a beginner.
No. No.
Love is blind is like 10, you know?

Speaker 3 Great. Yeah.
That's such a good thing to note because

Speaker 4 it's a commitment of no other. Like people need to be with their laptops all day.
It's really, it's really not for moms. Like I, it's really hard for me when I decide to dive in.

Speaker 4 I need to like, I'm like fast forwarding episodes. I'm like, I need to be calculate.
It's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That feels like way too much. Yeah.
Okay. All right.
I will try Love is Blind.

Speaker 3 Okay. If

Speaker 3 I get there.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 We'll see.

Speaker 3 I keep seeing Timothy Chalamay all over your stories.

Speaker 4 I love how she's talking like a reporter on Channel 5. Like, I keep seeing this man.

Speaker 3 Yes. I've seen.

Speaker 3 What, what?

Speaker 4 Oh, you're not attracted. I already know.
You're not attracted.

Speaker 3 Is that what it is? Okay, so

Speaker 3 you're not.

Speaker 4 First of all, let me tell you, just tell me, Amanda, you were right. I'm not attracted.

Speaker 3 Correct. Okay.

Speaker 3 You're not attracted.

Speaker 4 No, right. I think that what's happening for you is you're seeing the hype and you're like, okay, I'd love to watch a film, but I don't get the hype.

Speaker 4 I get it.

Speaker 3 I get it. Because I've never been negative.
It's, there's never been like, I don't, that's awful. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 It's just that I don't quite understand the hype and I felt like I was missing out on something. So that makes a lot more sense.
That does it for Coach Me Up. So I've learned a couple of things.

Speaker 4 Okay, you did.

Speaker 3 I did.

Speaker 3 I feel better about the Timothy Chalamet situation

Speaker 3 because I felt like I was really missing something.

Speaker 3 And also, I now know that if I need to lean into a dating show, Love is blind is my answer.

Speaker 4 And now, you also know that Lisa Vanderpump created Vanderpump Rolls.

Speaker 3 I still can't get over that it started in a restaurant.

Speaker 4 Babe, when I tell you that was peak reality TV, when I tell you it was like waiters dating each other, boning each other, the best friend boning his best friend's best friend, it was like reality TV like that doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 3 I will say, I do think the closest I ever got to committing to a reality TV show, which makes sense for your recommendation for the Real Housewives, was Jersey Shore.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 So, you watched standing show. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, that was really our times, you know, it was like everybody was watching Jersey Shore on MTV.

Speaker 4 Like, we were all watching it. It wasn't like, are you watching? We all watched it.

Speaker 3 The funny part was, is that calling it Jersey Shore

Speaker 3 is

Speaker 3 especially hilarious to me because I grew up going to the South Jersey Shore.

Speaker 3 Very different experience.

Speaker 4 What? How is it different?

Speaker 3 There is not,

Speaker 3 we're not GTL.

Speaker 3 There's very few clubs. Yeah.
It's good, clean, family fun for the most part.

Speaker 3 With an occasion, like with the good dive bars, but like

Speaker 3 not, we're not fist bumping and no.

Speaker 4 yeah, I was into Pauli D, by the way. I don't know why.
I was like, I could

Speaker 3 you like the blow dry?

Speaker 4 I don't know what I liked. It's like a weird thing.
I was like, I get it, I get it, Paul.

Speaker 3 His humor was oh, maybe it was funny.

Speaker 4 Maybe, see, funny speaks to me.

Speaker 3 I just saw a clip recently of when he walked in and the girl, I don't know which of the women were mad at him. And he was like, I'm mad at you because you were mad at me, and now I'm mad at you.

Speaker 3 So now we're all mad. And like walks out and I'm like, this is incredible.
This is, how do we not, like the fucking duck phone? I'm like, I can't. I want

Speaker 3 the whole like take us.

Speaker 3 It was good.

Speaker 3 It was, yeah, it felt like a warm hug.

Speaker 4 So you have it in you to love reality TV.

Speaker 3 Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 3 just, I will say, I did not watch any of the extended. Me neither, me neither.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I, the OG Jersey Shore,

Speaker 3 I love them.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 3 And now for the third installment of our fictional Duncan short film saga. Interior Duncan 2018, Kylie's Bachelorette Party.

Speaker 3 Kylie McDebit, soon-to-be Kelsey, stands in the middle of her old stomping grounds for one last hurrah. She and friends are cheersing with butter pecan iced coffees.

Speaker 3 The bridesmaids all chant speech, speech, speech.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm a woman of my word, ladies. I said if he agreed to a date in this Duncan, I'd marry him.
And here we are the night before my wedding.

Speaker 3 We widen out to see Duncan is decked out for the occasion. A butter pecan ice sculpture, a tower of munchkins, even a glazed donut fondue station.

Speaker 3 There's no place I'd rather celebrate my final single night than at this very Duncan.

Speaker 3 Two good times,

Speaker 3 great friends, and even better coffee. Cheers.
Kylie and the girls all cheers their butter pecans. Kylie's made of honor, former teammate Beverly, suddenly gasps.

Speaker 3 She shows Kylie an email on her phone. Hi, Bev.

Speaker 3 We regret to inform you, but we can no longer host the Kelsey McDevitt wedding as we have double booked our venue. Kylie drops her butter pecan on the ground in disbelief.
Bev,

Speaker 3 please tell me this is one of your famous pranks. Bev takes a big goblin butter pecan.

Speaker 3 The wedding is tomorrow. Where are we going to have it now?

Speaker 3 To be continued. I read a quote of yours about motherhood that I absolutely love.

Speaker 3 You said you can still be a dumb bitch and have a baby.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you could be a mom and still be a dumb bitch is the sentence. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I say it every day.

Speaker 3 Did you say this after your first baby? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I love that so much.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 4 it's not,

Speaker 4 again, the three people that don't get it will be like,

Speaker 4 it's more like,

Speaker 4 because before, when I got pregnant with Noah, my first, I had just started kind of taking off and doing what I do.

Speaker 4 And I was like, very much like, oh, like, you know how you're scared, like a baby's going to halt your career and your passions and your everything. And I said to myself, like,

Speaker 4 you're going to keep doing what you're doing. You're just going to be a mom, but you're going to keep doing the dumb shit.
That's how I talk to myself that you do.

Speaker 4 Like, you're going to watch reality TV. You're going to take selfies.
You're going to, I even told myself, which is so weird that I actually ended up doing that.

Speaker 4 I'd be like, you'll breastfeed that baby. And as you're breastfeeding, you're going to fucking talk about what's happening today.
I kept undoing my shit, meaning like you don't have to be a mom.

Speaker 4 And the minute you become a mom, only care about mom things, do mom things,

Speaker 4 baby stuff, like not know how to have fun anymore, not care about dumb shit, not have your hobbies, your friends, your, you can do all that and be a mom.

Speaker 3 It is

Speaker 3 the most

Speaker 3 selfless thing you will have to do in your life. Like you,

Speaker 3 it is to some degree all-encompassing, right? Like at any point in the day,

Speaker 3 you do have to always be concerned about the tiny humans you're responsible for. But I think there is a misconception that it wipes out the rest of you and makes you solely mom.

Speaker 3 Whereas, what we need to do is tack it onto the end of the resume and keep the rest of the shit that also defines us as who we are as people because we're still us.

Speaker 3 Just because we made a human being or we are a mother to a tiny human doesn't mean that, like, we are only mom.

Speaker 4 You said it even better than I could. And moreover, I think that they give you so much motivation and even more purpose in life.
Nothing makes me happier than being able to do what I'm doing

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 come home to my baby, now babies, or be home with my babies and then have to run out and come back. Like it gives me this like complete life, you know what I mean? That I, that I, that I love.

Speaker 4 But I want people to know that like, if you're scared to have a baby, obviously there are a million things that go into it and you can always do your, your, your, your little plus and minus or timeline or when is right.

Speaker 4 I did that too. But I think that the fear that you won't be able to succeed anymore or you won't be able to start something new or you won't be able to have any sort of a life or it's just not

Speaker 4 what I experience and also what I think that anybody could

Speaker 4 do, you know, and balance it so that you don't have to. And by the way, there are people that want to just lean into that.
And they end up like, you know,

Speaker 4 learning parenting courses or wanting to teach kids stuff. Great.
You don't have to, is what I'm saying. You don't have to get the mom haircut, even though I did get a bob.

Speaker 4 You don't have to. I'm growing out the hair, you know?

Speaker 3 I love it.

Speaker 3 One of my favorite videos of yours, speaking of breastfeeding, is when you mentioned that you are the living exception to the idea that women who lose pregnancy weight faster when they breastfeed.

Speaker 3 It'll come right off.

Speaker 4 Did you do a not gonna lie about this? It'll come right off. It'll shed right off once it's

Speaker 3 I will tell you what. The only weight I lost while breastfeeding was the hair off of my head.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 Uh-huh. That's it.

Speaker 3 Baby hairs, breakage. That's what I lost.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's not a real, I don't get it. Again, it makes sense like that you would be burning these calories or whatever

Speaker 4 scientifically is supposed to happen. And for the people that it happens for, fuck you.
But yeah, it was not my experience.

Speaker 3 This actually, my biggest piece of mom advice to any mom is

Speaker 3 do not get your heart set on anything.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 3 From pregnancy. all the way through into motherhood.
Don't think that you are going to have no nausea. Don't think that you are going to be unscathed by the sciatic nerve pain.

Speaker 3 Don't think that you are going to only gain 20 pounds. Don't think that you are going to breastfeed.
Don't think that you are going to have a natural birth. So true.

Speaker 3 Don't get your heart set on anything because baby is going to do what the fuck baby wants to do.

Speaker 4 I love that. It's so true.

Speaker 3 And why stress out about something that at the end of the day is going to be okay, but might not have been your first choice.

Speaker 4 It's so true. I said a very similar thing about birth plans because I, from the beginning, said, no, what's a birth plan? How could you plan when you don't know what the fuck is going to happen?

Speaker 4 How, and then my explanation for that was like, imagine you plan this whole thing and then God forbid, you end up needing a C section or, you know, and how that disappointment.

Speaker 3 That's not how you want to start motherhood. Right.

Speaker 3 Something else I think we have in common, I saw the other day that you posted an Instagram story about your oldest saying fucker

Speaker 3 and you trying to get him to say tucker.

Speaker 3 Now, I'm hoping that I know the answer here. Is it safe to assume that you curse in front of the kids? Yeah, but I don't think I say fuck her, you know?

Speaker 3 They always pick the ones you don't use.

Speaker 4 This is me lying to myself, probably, but I really don't think it's from me because the fucker, I don't say, but I really need to look up. I was going to tell myself to look it up.

Speaker 4 I think what I'm assuming the right thing to do is, is not do what what I did, which was laugh and like be like, no or yes.

Speaker 4 But you know what I said to another mom the other day? I was like, him cursing is like the least of my problems. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like, absolutely.

Speaker 4 Like, like, me and my husband even agree on it. Like, we're like, that, yeah, to other people, they're like, that's crazy.
But I'm like, him saying that word that he doesn't know what it means

Speaker 4 really is not at the top of my like, we need to, you know, take care of this with Noah. You You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 But I think what we're going to do, because it is happening, I am sure, Kylie, I'm positive he's not doing it at school.

Speaker 4 So like, I'm not worried because he's way more scared of his teacher, which is like, I need to think about what I'm doing wrong here.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he wouldn't do it at school because I've said to him, like, should I tell him your, your teacher, you're saying that? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. So he wouldn't do it at school.

Speaker 4 He's just doing it with us and like to get a rise.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I have caught a lot of flack because i am very open about the fact that i curse in front of my kids i firmly believe that i don't quite understand why we have to give those words so much weight in pretending that they are like offensive to kids and my kids know that they're grown-up words and they don't use them personally and all of the stuff yeah um they're words that throughout their life they will hear

Speaker 3 And they won't be shocked by them because they grew up with them. But why do you think that people get so personally offended by the people suggesting that they curse in front of their kids?

Speaker 4 Well, I feel like because like I've told you, um, that I've been doing what I have been doing on top of my kids since they were born, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like, I was literally breastfeeding with Noah being like, so then he went

Speaker 4 and then he fucking went there and people would respond, but I actually felt like it was more like, not it's so cool, but it was like refreshing to people that I just kept on speaking normally, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Next to my kid.

Speaker 4 And I think the words, like again, to me, fucker isn't crazy. Like it's, it, it's the F word, you know, but

Speaker 4 to me, like if he was putting someone else down, I would be way more upset. You know what I mean? Like, um,

Speaker 4 if he was,

Speaker 4 it's, I feel like it's not uh, if he heard at home that we were speaking not nicely to each other and calling each other names, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 But yes, the cursing that we do is more like a fucking this, a fucking that, which isn't great.

Speaker 4 And I'm not saying speak like that all day, but I would be, I would take it way more seriously if he was coming to kids and calling them stupid or dumb or or just any any insulting word, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Than than like the cursing that kind of is meaningless.

Speaker 3 It's in our house, our girls will stop you if you say the word stupid,

Speaker 3 if you say hate,

Speaker 3 if you say shut up is a big one. We don't, like, I grew up in a house where you don't say that.
My sister and I could call each other lots of names.

Speaker 3 And the minute one of us said shut up, my mom would be like, That's enough. And I stand by that.
I think it is when you say it in a serious tone, not in the sort of

Speaker 3 like princess diaries, like shut up. Like, like, not the joking way,

Speaker 3 very much in like the

Speaker 3 aggressive, I, it hurts my ears because the house that I was raised in. So, shut up is a big one.
No one in our house says it. And recently, loser has been added to the list.

Speaker 3 You are not allowed to say loser because I don't know where that came from,

Speaker 3 but it was not happening in our house.

Speaker 3 Blame the kid.

Speaker 4 Blame another kid.

Speaker 3 It is for some reason that one hits my ears

Speaker 3 poorly too. But those are all words where our kids know.

Speaker 3 But they will say it and then go, oh, oh.

Speaker 4 But how? How did you do that? What did you do?

Speaker 3 Like, did you say that?

Speaker 3 We just have talked about that they're unkind words.

Speaker 3 So hate, I always say, like, you can say you don't like something, but hate is really, that means a lot more than not liking something.

Speaker 3 Shut up, I always just say like, it's not nice to tell someone that. Yeah.
Like if someone has something to say, we should let them say it.

Speaker 3 And like stupid,

Speaker 3 there's so many other words, like be more creative. Well, I can't thank you enough for joining me today.
I am so grateful.

Speaker 3 I love that you are not only leaning into what you love and what you loved pre-kids, but that you've continued with your content and

Speaker 3 that you're continuing to crush it. And

Speaker 3 I thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 4 Thank you for having me, truly.

Speaker 3 Thank you so much again to my guest, Amanda Hirsch, for joining me. As always, you'll be able to find even more exclusive clips on Warship Monday on my YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode.
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