Ep 195: Judi Love

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Speaker 1 interview skills, rolling it up, twizzling it all up, putting it on the scales of comedy and then paying for it. And that's pick and mix.
Sad not to see the snakes make a yeah, sorry, sorry, man.

Speaker 1 I panicked. That's

Speaker 1 all the mice. Oh no, the mice are care about it.
Yeah, as we know, yeah. Only thing the mice are good for is feeding the snakes.

Speaker 1 Ed Gamble there. My name is James A.
Caster. We own a dream restaurant.
Ed's a matrix, aren't we? I'm a waiter. Hello.
A genie waiter.

Speaker 1 And we invite a guest in every single week and we ask them their favourite ever started main course dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order.
And this week, our guest is... Judy Love.

Speaker 1 It's the last episode of the series. Ending with a bang.
Judy Love. Judy Love.

Speaker 1 We've been trying to get Judy Love on this podcast for years. Years.
A very long time. We wanted to get Judy Love on this podcast.

Speaker 1 I can't, I mean, we're currently, you know, we're at the studio. Judy will be here in an hour or so or a couple of hours ago.
I can't remember now.

Speaker 1 But even now, I feel like she's going to cancel and we won't see her. I think this is too good to be true.
Yeah, too good to be true. Judy Love's brilliant.
She's so funny.

Speaker 1 Massive Judy Love fans on this pod. Very excited to have her on.
I was anyway. And then her series of Taskmaster, I think she's one of the best Taskmaster contestants ever.

Speaker 1 Everything she did was funny. Yeah.
She's never, at no point do you see her like go, oh, can't be bothered to be funny now. Yeah.
Every shot of her, she's doing something. Yeah.
Brilliant.

Speaker 1 Funny in the studio, funny in the tasks. Yeah.
Every time she would like look up at it. They're just looking over at Greg.
Yeah. Funny.
Yeah. Absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's nothing I've seen Judy Love on it and I haven't loved Judy Love on it. Well, then you should probably go and see her on tour, James, because she's on tour.

Speaker 1 Judy Love, the one like, UK tour 2023. She's on tour now.
Yeah. She's all over.
She's going all over the place. Very excited that people can go and see Judy Live.
I mean, you've probably

Speaker 1 seen her and all sorts do you huh judy love yeah but yeah huh

Speaker 1 i mean they could have called it judy live yeah judy love judy live judy love judy live that's the next tour yeah next tour we'll suggest that to her when she's in also quite exciting that judy uh is is coming in because uh food wise

Speaker 1 I've only just learnt this. She was crowned the Master Chef Celebrity Christmas Special Champion.
Well, there you go. 2021.

Speaker 1 Not only is Judy a brilliant comic, she's a brilliant chef. So this is going to be the perfect episode.
Unless she says the secret ingredient, James, that we've agreed upon today.

Speaker 1 And today, the secret ingredient is ready breck. I don't think Judy's going to say ready breck.
I can't picture a world where Judy Love says, I want microwavable porridge.

Speaker 1 But hopefully that won't happen. But I mean,

Speaker 1 a listener suggested this. Kevin Reed.
Thank you, Kevin Reed. I mean, I'd normally try and think of a fun chant or something to do with their name, but Kevin Reid, and please don't take this wrong.

Speaker 1 Your

Speaker 1 name doesn't lend itself to any sort of melody or...

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Even like a parody song, even putting it into another song?

Speaker 1 All I can think of is Stacey's mum now. Kevin Reid has got it going on.
Yeah. I think that's a good thing to say, just in general.
Yeah. If Kevin Reid's listening, you've got it going on, man.

Speaker 1 Well done, Kevin. You got it going on.
Kevin Reid has got it going on.

Speaker 1 So thank you very much to Kevin for that. I think it's a good option.
I like porridge.

Speaker 1 You know what I don't like about Ready Break is on the adverts where they suggest it warms you from inside like you've swallowed a radiator or something. Central heating for kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's so weird.

Speaker 1 Also, let the kids use your central heating. Yeah.
I don't know if that's still the slow. Yeah.
But as a kid, central heating for kids, I'm not going around as a kid going, oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 I really want central heating.

Speaker 1 I just don't care about central heating. That's the grin of the problem.
Yeah. So it's an ice lolly, air conditioning for kids.
Yeah, yeah. That's air con for kids.

Speaker 1 That's all kids want. They want their body regulated like a house

Speaker 1 constantly.

Speaker 1 So if Judy says we're ready, she is out on her ear. Although

Speaker 1 I don't think we'd get away with that, to be honest. I don't know if Judy would accept it.
You said you're kicked out. She's like, no, I'm not.
No. And then you'd have to carry on.

Speaker 1 I'll still be eating. Thank you, man.
Yes. This is the Off Menu menu of Judy Love.

Speaker 15 Was there any questions that you'd said that I was supposed to have read before? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I guess we'll get ready for them now. Welcome, Judy, to the dream restaurant.

Speaker 15 Oh, thank you, because mama's here to eat.

Speaker 1 Welcome, Judy Love, to the dream restaurant. We've been expecting you for some time.
Have you really? Yeah.

Speaker 15 Do you know, I'm not going to lie, right? Off the menu, right?

Speaker 15 So I'm in here looking at the board, like the table, the wood, and the cups and the juice.

Speaker 1 I don't see no food. Yes, this is often a criticism launched at us, Judy, in that we will be talking about food for the next hour plus and we don't offer you any food.

Speaker 15 Oh my gosh, this is like a proper middle-class party.

Speaker 1 Do you want to come around?

Speaker 15 Yeah, we're going to have a little dinner party and there's like carrot sticks and hummus. Yeah, you're drinking on an empty ulcer-infilled stomach.

Speaker 1 What do you want to see at a party when you get to the party?

Speaker 15 I want to see big food. I want to see rice and peas and patties, like West Indian food chicken.
As long as there's fried chicken, I'm good.

Speaker 15 Not a stereotype, but hey, I'm here for the fried chicken and the wings I want to wing because I could put the whole thing in my mouth and take it out and there's just a bone left yeah

Speaker 15 I want all that I want some good food I want to be able to drink and then be drunk and then be like I need some food to soak up the alcohol then eat the food to soak up the alcohol and then just do this on repeat about three four times and then take food home yeah yeah tupperware of course baby you've been to a black person's house aren't you

Speaker 15 i google it i google that yeah are you taking tupperware tupperware with you specifically for that purpose or are you taking tupperware from the people's house it depends on how tight you are with the family because they might say bring like tupperware or bring something with you because i'm running out because you know your auntie's coming your auntie's going to come with bare stuff and all of her kids and it's going to be a lot so bring your own tupperware um but if they're like proper sufficient they will have it there otherwise it's a disrespect So if you see carrot sticks and hummus, you're immediately angry.

Speaker 15 I'm not immediately angry. I'm kind of like, okay, this might be just a little warm-up to the starters.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Because that is the starters. Okay.
It's like might be left out there for the kids.

Speaker 15 Let's see where the real food's at. And then my eyes will start to search around.

Speaker 15 And if there's anybody else in there who's like me, who knows they want to go to a party for food, I'll start to give them the look, which you can't see because you're listening.

Speaker 15 But this guy can see the look.

Speaker 15 And if it's an hour in and they're still bringing out, you know, like breadsticks and carrots, then the look will almost be like,

Speaker 1 and then you'll see us disappear and we have driven to kfc yeah it's just that simple brilliant we had sakisa on the podcast and she said that she'd once ordered a dominoes or a piece of her to the party she was at because the food was not good enough yeah and uh and instead did that would you do a move like that of course take away to the party takeaway to the party or leave the party early oh gosh i got a phone call i've got to leave i'm so sorry and that's because there's not enough food there or not the the right food.

Speaker 15 And the whole conversation will be about the food.

Speaker 15 The worst thing I'd say in the West India, and I'll say, I'll pinpoint it down to Jamaican culture, is if you go to an event, whether it's a wedding, funeral, christening, and the food's bad, like that no one's going to be saying, oh my gosh, she looks so nice in her dress.

Speaker 15 What a beautiful wedding. They're going to be saying, the food was bad.
I know she spent a thousand pound on the dress, but my God, she should have took it back and got some food.

Speaker 15 That's what they will be saying. You don't want no one to be saying that at your event would you order take away to a funeral

Speaker 15 oh that one's a bit risky isn't it i mean i would leave and say i'm just going to pick up a cousin or i'm just going to quickly have a meeting

Speaker 15 i'm gonna just quickly go and have a meeting just you know i i'd tease it out i'd tease it out once we got to the hall i'd kind of a look around and see who's in the kitchen yeah because you know which aunties can throw down in the kitchen you know and if you don't know what throw down means, that means cook.

Speaker 15 So if it's an auntie that you know you don't like her cooking, you start to set up the story from then.

Speaker 1 Oh, what time's what time are they serving? About two.

Speaker 15 Okay. Listen, I've got a meeting about quarter past.
So I'm going to quickly run out and then I'll come back and then I'll go and I'll eat and then come back.

Speaker 1 Great. I love that.
Still, even if you see the story at the funeral,

Speaker 1 still having a saying you're having a meeting halfway through a funeral is a risky gambit.

Speaker 15 I think it's just, it's better than saying, where's the food? It's terrible.

Speaker 15 yeah like i haven't got to that status yet like i in in the jamaica community like i need to be an elder i need to be only person can get away with that was the oldest auntie like grandma you know nanny like if you're that top bus or the pastor you lot can get away with saying the food is not good where is the food anybody else underneath that just needs to seckle theirself and just be quiet even with your celebrity status do you not get a pass i might get a little pass i might get a little serve you know give juliet food first but there's always going to be an auntie.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter how famous I am.

Speaker 15 I've got an auntie that I know I will be like a kid.

Speaker 1 Okay, Auntie, what do you like, Auntie?

Speaker 15 And I'm not going to answer anything. I'm just going to keep quiet and be nice until it's my turn out of respect because that auntie will embarrass the hell out of you.

Speaker 1 Well, before we get on to your dream menu, very excited about the one like the Judy Love tour.

Speaker 1 Are you excited about it, Judy?

Speaker 15 I'm so excited. Like, you guys have been on tour.
Am I meant to be this excited?

Speaker 15 I think it's a good sign that you you are it's it's it's just overwhelming and but overwhelming in a good way because you know when you sit that like as you start as a comedian you see other comedians that you know admire and you see them doing tours and you're like wow could you imagine doing that and then when you're actually doing it or maybe you've done a few shows beforehand and now you're at the stage where you're like okay everyone knows i'm going on a national tour like tickets are being sold like people was coming up to me and said oh my gosh can't wait for your tour it's really really like it's breathtaking for me i'm I'm in shock, but I'm also ready.

Speaker 15 The one like Judy Love, people are saying to me, Why the one like? And I'm like, Well,

Speaker 15 when I think of my videos on socials,

Speaker 15 I always say, Yes, yes, people to me, the one like Judy Love.

Speaker 15 So I thought, Well, you know, that's what the tour is going to be because you're going to get up and coach, close, and personal with me, the one like Judy Love.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, up close and personal.

Speaker 15 Well, babes,

Speaker 15 James,

Speaker 15 you know a lot about that, don't you?

Speaker 1 What, what?

Speaker 1 Don't put your hands up like that again, James.

Speaker 1 Brings back memories.

Speaker 1 Well, I got done. Yeah.
It went.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 There you go. Don't sit on the front row with Julia's tour.

Speaker 1 Because they might look like you right now. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm beat red here.

Speaker 1 I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 What do you think the food situation is going to be like on tour? Because obviously you're going to a lot of different places. You're going to be on the road.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to be getting food on the road and from lots of different places.

Speaker 1 How do you think it's going to go?

Speaker 15 I'm going to be honest. It's going to have to be healthy.
Do you know what I mean? It's a lot. You know what I mean? I'm a plus-size curvy girl.
So I know energy's got to be up.

Speaker 15 It's got to be food that really just, you know, feed me and you know, give me good nutrition.

Speaker 15 Obviously, we've dashed little chicken and stuff in there, a little seasoned, little spice up the plates, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 15 Spice up my life and it's got to be wholesome, but it's got to be more wholesome we're going to try and stay away from the takeaway the quick kebabs and so on and pizzas or whatever because you know that can become it's not good for you so i love takeaway food but i love good food i like to mix it up but i think it's about preserving the energy so i'm just going to try and fuel my body in that way yeah

Speaker 15 yeah and pre-planned pre-planned that's what i've learned from a lot of people pre-planned so for me it's all about flavor and taste as long as there's good flavor and taste i'm good well yeah i mean mean, pre-planning is that's what you're gonna have to do, man.

Speaker 1 Because, like, before every tour, I'm like, this is the one, I'm gonna eat healthy on this one.

Speaker 15 And then it doesn't, because you just end up being like, I just, the thing is, I can't eat before I go on stage. Yeah,

Speaker 15 yeah, they're adrenaline and nerves. And then you come off and you're so hyped that you're like, Now I need to go on a come down.
By that time, it's 10:30, 11 o'clock.

Speaker 15 You're like, I need to just quickly eat something because you realize you haven't eaten since

Speaker 15 I mean, drive-by, mcdonald's late night cave sea favorite chicken and chips

Speaker 15 sounded good to me and then you feel like shit the next day exactly so i'm gonna i'm gonna pre-cook i'm gonna get some food maybe have it pre-cooked make sure wherever i'm performing there's a microwave and this and that and keep it like that Just take a chef.

Speaker 1 Take a chef with you on tour, Judy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Take a chef on tour.

Speaker 15 That would be lovely.

Speaker 15 Let's leave that for the third, full, fifth tour.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the dream, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Take a chef on tour. Could you imagine? I'd love it.

Speaker 15 I'd have a lot of seafood. Yeah.
See the food and eat it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, we always start the dream meal with still sparkling water, Judy.

Speaker 15 Oh, sparkling. Yeah.
I am a sparkling girl.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 15 It doesn't sound right. Sparkling?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sparkling.
Well, how do you think it should be?

Speaker 15 Sparkling.

Speaker 1 No, what?

Speaker 1 What are your options here?

Speaker 1 Were you saying it doesn't sound right? Sparkle. Sparkling.
Oh, are you saying sparkling or sparkling? Is that what you're talking about? I'm trying to figure out what it is.

Speaker 1 Is it sparkling, sparkle, sparkle? I think I just say sparkling. Let Judy cook.

Speaker 15 For some reason, when I said it, just said it didn't. Sparkling water.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Sparkling?

Speaker 1 No. Wait, hold on.

Speaker 1 Why all of a sudden does the sun win?

Speaker 1 Spark sparkling. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sparkle? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Help me out here, brother.

Speaker 1 Sparkling. Sparkling.
Is it sparkling?

Speaker 1 What are you saying?

Speaker 1 Sparkling water? Yeah, sparkling water.

Speaker 15 Now back yourself, bitch. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Stop what's over here.

Speaker 1 Underestimate yourself. It's sparkling water, man.

Speaker 15 Sparkling. Yeah, let's go with that.

Speaker 1 You said sparkling.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. I think either one's fine.
I think either one's. Which one?

Speaker 1 I thought you were saying two different.

Speaker 1 I think I was.

Speaker 15 It just sounded weird when I first said it. And now I'm going to spit to sparkling water.

Speaker 1 Sparkling water. How would you say it? Sparkling.

Speaker 15 Is that not what I said?

Speaker 1 I think I'll go sparkling.

Speaker 1 And you're going sparkling.

Speaker 15 Oh, sparkling.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, sparkling water. Sparkling.
You're saying sparkling.

Speaker 15 It sounds like a sci-fi movie for some reason. Sparkling.

Speaker 1 Sparkling. Sparkling.
Yeah. Like a character in in star trek exactly yeah sparkling where was the destination

Speaker 1 where was the destination

Speaker 1 the most star trek thing you could think of yeah because they're always flying somewhere that's true yeah i mean they're always looking through that big glass they were all trying to put in our back doors in our gardens down we yeah i mean they're always trying to fly somewhere so sparkling where are we heading to i don't know captain see it works yeah that's good yeah that's good yeah well they rarely say i don't know to be fair.

Speaker 1 They go, where are we heading to? They usually have, they don't go, I don't, I don't know. Well,

Speaker 15 yeah, that's quite true, actually.

Speaker 1 They always have an answer, a planet. What planet would you make up?

Speaker 15 Would I make up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if it's Sparkling the character, Sparkling.

Speaker 15 Sparkling would be travelling. They're not sure where they're traveling to.
I think they have a set destination. They were lost.
They were lost.

Speaker 1 They went on a mission and they took the wrong corner. On Taskmaster, you came up with a character of Queen Safufu.
I can't remember what planet planet Queen Safufu was from.

Speaker 15 Queen Safufu came from the planet in my head.

Speaker 15 Queen Sufufu, like she was the bomb. I mean, I don't know where she...
I think she comes from like Wakanda or somewhere.

Speaker 1 Right, okay.

Speaker 1 The pre-existing property. Yeah,

Speaker 15 another part of Wakanda that hasn't been discovered yet.

Speaker 1 Right, okay, yeah.

Speaker 15 Like Dukanda.

Speaker 1 Like Jeff was saying, Shakanda. Yeah, Shakanda.
Shakanda. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 Queen Sufufu came from Shakanda.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right?

Speaker 15 Yeah, which is like a little bit of a

Speaker 15 more like African destination with a little bit of South London in it.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what the Black Panther films are missing from me. A little bit of South Pantheon.
A little bit of South London. A little bit of South London.
Is it still hidden?

Speaker 15 It's kind of hidden because it's got, you know, all the diamonds and the rare stuff, like all the other parts of African.

Speaker 1 You've got Vibranium there? Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We've got

Speaker 15 Vibrainian, Tibramian,

Speaker 15 Chibramian, all Braamian.

Speaker 1 All the Brahmians.

Speaker 15 All the Brahmians, yeah. And Brahmians, yeah, yeah.
And it's just a beautiful place, exotic. Yeah.
And we have natural powers in us. And Queen Sufufu,

Speaker 15 her power is to just glide through life like on Taskmaster.

Speaker 1 On Taskmaster?

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's very specific power. Yeah.
She has to be on Taskmaster for it to work.

Speaker 15 On Taskmaster, she doesn't have to do much.

Speaker 15 She has a lot of power in her eyes. Yeah.
Do you understand what I mean? Her eyes are the power.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 15 And her queenness.

Speaker 1 What are the other the other people who live in Shakanda?

Speaker 1 What powers do they have?

Speaker 15 Well, their power is to be submissive to Queen Sufufu.

Speaker 1 That's not a power, Judy.

Speaker 1 That's a power. That's the opposite of power.

Speaker 15 The power is you know when to keep quiet.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 15 Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 You know when Queen Sufufu, did I say her name right? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Rolls her eyes and knows when it laid a path for me don't see what i'm saying so that's their power they can be invisible i'd love to be invisible oh so their powers are to be submissive and invisible and their leader and their leader queen shifufu her power is to glide through task master glide glide through life and taskmaster and taskmaster yeah enough that you know when the tasks come if she doesn't want to do it it doesn't look like she's just saying i don't want to do it yeah it just looks like she has the knowledge of how to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I don't need to.
That's what Queen Zafu is. Is that your impression of how you did Taskmaster? That were trying to say

Speaker 1 that no one could see that sometimes you couldn't be bothered to do the task. I don't know where this came from.

Speaker 15 Because I had a lot of people say, I just love the way, like every task you kept saying, I ain't doing that. I ain't doing that.
I ain't doing that. And I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 You did. I think you did a lot of them and sat down from memory.

Speaker 15 Did I?

Speaker 1 There's a lot of you introduced a chair to a lot of them, I think.

Speaker 15 Well, look, these tasks were so crazy. I love that show.
Yeah. I mean, it's for me, it was one of the best shows I've ever done.
It's unreal. It's not every day you get to pretend to be a kid again.

Speaker 15 Yeah. That inner kid in you comes out and you, we're playing.
That's all we're doing. But some of the tasks, I was just like, this is crazy.

Speaker 15 Are you real? Like, I was looking at the camera.

Speaker 1 Is this what you really, you really want me to do this?

Speaker 15 So it was just like, let me just, let me take a seat.

Speaker 15 let's queen take a seat before i do this task i mean i had to build something from sweets yeah and then i had to eat them all yeah hello do i look like i eat sweets

Speaker 1 i'm trying to set you up then

Speaker 1 keeping that one quiet

Speaker 15 it was it was yeah it was it was an amazing show i absolutely loved it you're brilliant on it it was it was but i was just like oh my gosh how did i get this reputation of like not want it was just it's not that i didn't want to do it it's just that i just finessed it with such sheer you know relaxation yeah yeah i think that's really but people's getting that mistake yeah you got alex to do a lot of it as well i think well what what was he there for yeah yeah sure tell me your role they said he was supposed to assist so in queen's foofu world yeah do the damn job for me oh that's interesting does alex live in shicanda he does live in shakanda yeah when i allow him to he lives in shakanda you could tell from how he was you see his power of being submissive yeah

Speaker 1 yeah he was very loved yeah so he like um in uh in wakanda they've got uh shakanda so but but in wakanda okay they've got uh martin freeman the one white guy we'll go over there yeah is alex horn your martin freeman well no i i have got a few other white guys in shakanda yeah yeah they swam over yeah yeah from lakanda yeah and Lakanda is a country that was lacking

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 15 and they swam over yeah they could hear the music and the vibes and said I want some of that so you know I've got quite a few so he's like white fellow brothers he's like your favorite white men

Speaker 15 are your favourite Salaw he's you know I have so many favours queen Zufufu has love for so many

Speaker 15 and they all have different roles.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Do you understand? So, I mean, you know, I've got different roles.

Speaker 15 I've got many others that are in different areas, some that I cannot disclose. But Alex, he does really well.
He does.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He pulls his weight.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 A lot of them pull their weight.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You lot would, you lot would do well for coming to Shakala. Yeah, I bet we're very, very happy to swim over, Judy.
From Lakanda. Flakanda.
From Lakanda, where we're pouring it.

Speaker 1 It's so boring in the bread. We're going to

Speaker 1 pop a dumbs or bread. Pop-lums or bread, Judy love.
Pop-lumps or bread.

Speaker 1 I don't know what happened.

Speaker 15 You might get deported from Shakanda, honestly.

Speaker 1 You might get deported. Pop-doms or bread.
Pop-lums or bread, Judy love. Pop-doms or bread.

Speaker 15 Pop-a-dums or bread. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where the hell did that come from? Always happens every episode of Shallow. Pop-a-dumbs or bread.
That's a hard one because pop-a-dums can just pop, pop, pop.

Speaker 15 You don't stop.

Speaker 1 But bread.

Speaker 15 Oh, hell no. I could just feel my belly expanding already.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's gotta be the bread.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 15 It's gotta be that fluffy, fresh, just baked bread. Hasn't it? It's gotta be that sinful, full of carbohydrates.
It is carbohydrates, isn't it? Yeah, carbohydrates, right?

Speaker 15 Because carbohydrates is really just sugar. It's not really good for you.
But hey, let's just have a moment.

Speaker 15 Or you could have sourdough bread, not too crispy, because some of the crispy ones on the it sounds feels like your doof.

Speaker 15 Have you ever had a sourdough bread?

Speaker 1 It's just been called tough ass sourdough bread on there.

Speaker 1 There's no point in toasting it. Proper, just pull it off.

Speaker 1 It's not attractive.

Speaker 15 You go out a date and you're trying to act extra healthy. You order the sourdough, you're pulling, yanking your face.
You don't want to see your face like that.

Speaker 15 You have to go for the old school bread, the soft one, the thick one. I like bread that's like just baked.
And it's like you usually get them in a nice Turkish shop. And it's got a nice crust to it.

Speaker 15 Oh, with a good bit of butter. And I love my, is it presidential butter?

Speaker 1 It's got the salt in it. It's got the presentation.
Oh, yeah, the president, I think.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah, that's it. President.

Speaker 1 Oh, my.

Speaker 15 Oh, I've changed. I've changed.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I've changed.

Speaker 1 That butter is amazing. Yeah, with the chunks of salt in it.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 just i just see myself in waitrose yeah walking down the freezer aisle in the butter at the yoga and i just reach for my what's it called president i think president butter

Speaker 1 lower it into the cart yes wander around alcohol looking for a nice mail back

Speaker 1 a few olives oh life life

Speaker 1 Forever changing.

Speaker 1 I like this character.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Love this character. Life.

Speaker 1 Life. Just wandering endlessly and effortly.

Speaker 1 Effortlessly.

Speaker 1 You know the word I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 Effortlessly.

Speaker 1 Ironically taking a lot of effort, design this word.

Speaker 1 Effortlessly.

Speaker 1 Through the aisles, my olives and soft

Speaker 1 knead sourdough bread. And my president's sore bread.
No, but

Speaker 1 sore.

Speaker 1 suddenly went America.

Speaker 15 Argentine and Argentine and Melbourne.

Speaker 1 Delightful and deep and rich.

Speaker 1 And magazine might buy a home life.

Speaker 1 Home and farm life.

Speaker 1 Magazine.

Speaker 1 What happened in the middle? My Bon Boar jacket. Is that what it's called? Bonbor? Awesome jackets and bonbour jackets.
I don't know what the jackets are. Barber, Barber.

Speaker 15 Barb Barber jackets.

Speaker 1 Maybe a north first.

Speaker 1 Maybe one of those

Speaker 1 oh she's absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 Judy,

Speaker 1 can you please do an episode of Loose Women where you just do this character

Speaker 1 and do it under a different name? What would I call her?

Speaker 15 What would I call that character? She'd have to be Mrs. Something.

Speaker 1 Or lady something. Lady something.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 It'd be better if I call her lady, but I'd have to use like a patwa, which is Jamaican slang, so that people Jamaican would know what that word is, but nobody else would.

Speaker 1 You've just got people saying this word,

Speaker 1 which is like absurd. But people just call it, yeah, it'd have to be something like that.

Speaker 15 I don't know.

Speaker 1 This character's just in me sometimes. That's great.
That's great.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 I mean, what patwa could you use?

Speaker 15 Well, there's the normals, isn't it? Like bumper clerk, rasclark, they don't make this.

Speaker 1 People know those ones. Yeah, I think people don't know those ones.
People don't know.

Speaker 1 So I've got a five-page. Dave used those words in Lakanda.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We say that in Lakanda Lakanda before we go.

Speaker 15 See? That little bit of spice and you're swimming over to Shakanda.

Speaker 1 You see that? Oh my God.

Speaker 15 I mean, I'd have to find a word. I'd have to think.
Maybe by the end of the day, I'll find a word. And lady will have a name.

Speaker 1 So, a word that could kind of mean Lali Da, well-to-do.

Speaker 15 Shakal pandem. So that's like show off on them or something like that.

Speaker 1 That can be double barreled. Double barrel.
Check out on them.

Speaker 15 Maybe my name is Lady Shagard on it.

Speaker 15 You would never know.

Speaker 1 Shack out on them. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Lady, check out on them.

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Speaker 1 Your dream starter.

Speaker 15 Oh, this is really my dream starter. Oh, my dream starter.
I do like scallops.

Speaker 1 Lovely. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm doing a Mark Suspense's advert. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I would pay to hear that. I'd love it if you were the voice.

Speaker 1 Food is succulent. Look at these succulent.
Two beautiful pan-baked scallops. dripping with luxurious Lancashire Dale butter.

Speaker 1 That sounds good, good. Lancashire Dale butter.

Speaker 15 It just sounded like a very ripple.

Speaker 1 It sounds perfect. It sounds like a very rich, milky

Speaker 1 straight from the goat's breasts.

Speaker 1 Just for the listeners, Judy did that entirely with her eyes closed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of hand gestures. Yeah.
A lot of hand gestures for the straight from the goat's breast.

Speaker 15 Yeah, because that would be really rich.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Rich butter.

Speaker 1 Rich, but straight for the ghost. goat's breasts not the ghost's breasts yeah you don't want ghost you don't want ghost breast butter no it depends what show you on you might get a a ghost.

Speaker 15 I mean, did you ever not see that woman on this morning talking about she was having sex with a ghost?

Speaker 1 My gosh,

Speaker 1 literally, you never saw it.

Speaker 1 It was that, it was, it was a lot.

Speaker 15 Yeah, it was a lot. And imagine some of us are out here waiting for a phone call from a brother that went on a date with her ghost.
He went and he only went and proposed.

Speaker 1 The guys proposed, but they're famous for ignoring people, aren't they?

Speaker 15 Turned up unexpectedly.

Speaker 15 In terms of this, do do you want that those scallops with yeah i think i would like scallops and giant king like king prawns

Speaker 15 and oh i do like we've had this thing before is this a lot of starters well let's see it like this veal thing this oh veal

Speaker 1 kind oh no actually i would like uh oh for the listener before this uh we started recording judy asked us if there was anything she was meant to prepare for this podcast

Speaker 1 we did record that so it might have been in the beginning of the episode yeah yeah probably got that he's the perfect setup well look i'm prepared i do like yellow tail

Speaker 15 uh raw fish oh yeah i don't know how they what how they is it cured or it's got nice little vinegar

Speaker 15 it's absolutely delicious so some of that little seafood little platter as a starters would be nice so as a platter so you're talking about scallops king prawns and the yellow tail ceviche yeah that's i think yeah that's a that sounds

Speaker 15 with a little bit of caviar

Speaker 15 and sourdough.

Speaker 1 You're going to keep adding things and no, just that's, I think that's, I don't know what you like to eat, but

Speaker 1 my money, I want my food. Well, you've got the sourdough.

Speaker 1 But my money, I want all my food.

Speaker 1 Sort of a bite-sized starter.

Speaker 1 And do you want the scallops with the Lancashire Dale butter straight from the goat's breast? Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Dripping, like the goat is there hanging

Speaker 1 over the dripping street. So do you want the goat? I mean, this is the dream restaurant.
We can, we can sort of, you know.

Speaker 15 It's got to be like, you've got to see how they make it. You've got to be make sure the goats are looked after.

Speaker 15 And it's from, you know,

Speaker 15 really well,

Speaker 15 beautiful home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So when you say you want to make sure the goats are looked after, do you still also then want the goat hanging above the table so you can pull on its teeth?

Speaker 15 Maybe that was a bit extreme.

Speaker 15 We can pull that man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 15 I want the goat to be happy.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 15 That's why I want the goat to be grass-fed.

Speaker 1 Do you want, I went to a restaurant once and they bought crab over.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 there was a, what's it, the, the code that you can scan on your phone. QR code.
Yeah. QR code.
Did that. And then it takes you to a video of them catching the crabs.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Doing all this so you can see that they haven't been, you know, treated too badly. Would you like that with the goat?

Speaker 15 I don't know about that because there was one time I went to a lobster restaurant and

Speaker 15 i was like yeah let's go for the big boy yeah because you can go for the like different sizes was like we're going for the big boy told him i want the big boy and they brought the lobster over to us the big boy lobster and it was moving i couldn't i said i couldn't eat it after that yeah yeah that's weird that they've made you meet it before they killed it yeah i was like i can't do it yeah i can't i can't i'm not saying i can be vegan what i'm saying is today i can't do it

Speaker 15 went back the next day and did it

Speaker 1 they went Big boy's still here. Big boy, big boy still here.
Because big girl is here.

Speaker 15 I'm ready for this. Come on.
Meet your match.

Speaker 1 One of my favourite YouTube accounts is a guy who went to his, in America, went to his local supermarket, got a live lobster that you can get from there.

Speaker 1 You meant to get him and then take them home and cook them. And just took it home and kept it as a pet.

Speaker 1 And it's a diary of him and Leon the lobster. Leon, the lost.
And him looking after Leon. And it's very, it's very tough.
How long did Leon last? I think Leon's still going. Wow.

Speaker 1 Still updates, yeah. I mean...
Where does he keep Leon? In a massive tank. Yeah.
Feeds him live, Wrigley things.

Speaker 1 Had to train Leon to because his claws, his pincers, were rubber-banded together at the store.

Speaker 1 So when they undid it, he couldn't really work his pincers. I had to train him up to use them.
And now his pincers are in full action and stuff.

Speaker 15 See, things like that, it does make you think about being vegan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when you see Leon the lobster. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then.

Speaker 1 But Scallops cross.

Speaker 1 You're not a vegan are you vegan no are you vegan yeah we all went yeah yeah yeah we all know it's the right thing to do yeah and then i started thinking about the scallops and prawns that you're gonna have nice and the ceviche and the caviar ceviche that's what it's called it's beautiful the orange caveat the big oh yeah

Speaker 1 blamo do you like blamo what's blamo

Speaker 1 when you uh you get the big orange carrot balls and you have them in your mouth you can like push them up on the to the top of your mouth and feel them pop in your mouth and get the blamo oh i love that the blamo yeah something else to date back to shakanda yeah date that back to shikanda yeah tell them about blamo yeah

Speaker 1 dream main course dream main see this is really really hard because

Speaker 1 it's a lobster

Speaker 1 about the lobster i mean judy if you pick the lobster net after that chat about lee on the lobster and you feeling terrible for the lobster it's going to absolutely blow my mind

Speaker 15 I'll I'll pick um

Speaker 1 go to that guy's house yeah I'll pick sort of guy is it venison or veal what do you think what do you think

Speaker 1 both things the deer this isn't like sparkling or sparkling that's venison yeah venison yeah yeah like a bit of venison yeah

Speaker 1 bit of venison bit of venison and then judy just rotated on her chair for a while

Speaker 1 on a scribble chair and just went back and forth for a bit with her head cocked to one side, looking at us, going, a bit of venison.

Speaker 1 I can feel lady

Speaker 15 lady coming back.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 lady lady. This is something that lady lady would have, I think.
Oh, lady lady is perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, she's

Speaker 15 just require a little bit of venison.

Speaker 1 She's just a little bit of venison.

Speaker 1 Orange venison. Orange.
Orange.

Speaker 15 Orange deer, venison.

Speaker 1 Red deer, venison. You know, venison.
Hold up a second. What's orange deer, venison, red deer, venison?

Speaker 15 I swear, is it the red deer or orange deer? There's particular deers and they're red

Speaker 1 or orange or brown. Uh-huh.

Speaker 15 One of those ones. Yeah.
They're like a rare ones to they're really I've seen them.

Speaker 1 Okay. Where have you seen them?

Speaker 15 Oh, what country was it? It wasn't, it was somewhere in the UK. I went somewhere in the UK, countryside somewhere.
I went deer sighting.

Speaker 1 Oh, deer sighting. Yes.
Where did you go go deer sighting? Who did you go deer sighting with?

Speaker 15 I can't remember where it was, but I somehow was deer sighting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So like were you with your family or was it a holiday?

Speaker 1 I was with a friend. Uh-huh.
Yeah. So you'll see it.

Speaker 1 It's going to be on TV.

Speaker 15 The TV. I can't say too much.

Speaker 1 Okay. No, okay.
So it's a Marvel film or something. Yes, of course.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah. And I was deer sighting.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 And yeah, and the deers are orange or red or brown.

Speaker 1 So you want to eat one of the ones that you saw on that trip?

Speaker 15 What I'm saying is I've been taught that venison is one of the best meats. If we are going to eat meat, that's the meat we should eat because they're protected to a certain extent.

Speaker 15 So I would, yeah, that would be nice venison, some nice vegetables,

Speaker 1 a little bit of lobster. Well, hold on.

Speaker 15 Just on the side.

Speaker 1 Do you think you could just slip that in without...

Speaker 1 Just a little bit of lobster on the side. It's like surf and turf innovative turf is venison and lobster

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 yes i would yeah how do you want the have you where have you had venison before i've had a few restaurants yeah yeah and how was it prepared what did they do with like a sauce or something medium

Speaker 15 medium medium i don't like to see blood no it's just a bit medium uh medium well but you can't read too well because it's got to be soft you know melted mouth like butter yeah yeah

Speaker 1 Yorkshire goat butter.

Speaker 1 And Yorkshire, naturally. Yeah, Yorkshire.

Speaker 15 No, Yorkshire. Yeah, Yorkshire.

Speaker 1 It was Lancashire Dale.

Speaker 1 Lancashire Dale.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Lancashire Dale sounds more

Speaker 1 Yorkshire. Yeah.
Yorkshire. Yorkshire hair.
There's a different goat.

Speaker 15 Yorkshire Valleys.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yorkshire Valleys.

Speaker 1 So we're staying up north.

Speaker 15 Wednesday Dale cheese. Yeah.
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 I love the cranberry one. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Tell us about that.

Speaker 15 Oh, don't mind.

Speaker 1 This tongue has travelled you know

Speaker 1 might be about the north of england

Speaker 1 between two counties yeah

Speaker 15 so yes i'd like that i'd like that with some vegetables some sauteed

Speaker 15 spinach

Speaker 15 some nice um what's the potato i should know it where it's like it's like cut out and it's cooked in butter everything's in butterfondant potatoes

Speaker 1 what what did you cook when so you won Celebrity Master Chef Christmas? Yes, I did. Congratulations.
Congratulations. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 What did you cook on that?

Speaker 15 It was a Christmas special. So I made, can I remember?

Speaker 15 I made, my winning dish was a

Speaker 15 Jamaican British fusion Christmas. So it was turkey, but it was jerk turkey.
It was wrapped and it was wrapped. And it had crackling, but it was the turkey skin.
And then I made a

Speaker 15 jam, which was a cranberry and scotch bonnet jam.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. Very delicious.

Speaker 15 Some lovely sautéed potatoes, or should I say?

Speaker 15 It was really, really nice. And before that, I made some Brussels sprouts.
I made like a, not a salad because it was cooked.

Speaker 15 So like a seasoned Brussels sprouts, bacon, and I don't even know what to call it, but it was absolutely luscious.

Speaker 15 And then for my dessert, I think there was other stuff in it. I made, oh, I made some lovely stuffing, spicy stuffing.

Speaker 1 Really did.

Speaker 15 And for my dessert, I made Jamaican black rum cake

Speaker 15 with a

Speaker 1 sorrel and cranberry ju.

Speaker 15 And I made a Guinness, or shall I say, stout ice cream.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 15 Judy. Stout and rum.
Because we've got a thing called Guinness Punch. Yeah.
In Jamaica that we drink. It's absolutely lovely.

Speaker 15 There's others that you can buy. So we'll say stout punch.
And I basically made that into an ice cream, which has got rum in it, cream.

Speaker 15 They said it. They said it should be on the shelves.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Soon. Maybe soon.
Yeah, this should be on the shelves. Definitely.

Speaker 15 Jams and

Speaker 1 the full Judy Love range.

Speaker 15 I'm telling you, babes.

Speaker 15 It was luscious.

Speaker 1 Would you do that? Someone approached you and asked you if you wanted to release your own food range? Yes. Straight away.
Definitely. Do you love range? Of course.

Speaker 15 Put me in a jar. Sell me.

Speaker 1 Are you cooking a lot at home then? I do cook a lot at home.

Speaker 15 Obviously, now I've been a lot more busy.

Speaker 15 I think I'm trying to cook to prepare because I feel like when I'm away, I want them to be able to know they can just go in the fridge and they've got food that mummies prepared.

Speaker 15 That's that's my kind of parent style. I want to always have that kind of homely stuff.
If I'm away and I haven't cooked, that's when I start to feel a little bit bad.

Speaker 15 But yeah, so yeah, I do cook a lot.

Speaker 1 What are you leaving for them in the fridge?

Speaker 15 What's the the sort of standards i mean salmon grilled cooked salmon or maybe because my daughter's there she's 17 she's really she's my daughter's a really good cook so i might season the food and she will cook it but she's fantastic from seasoning her palate is unreal um she almost cooks better than me i'm trying not to that though

Speaker 1 you're the one on this podcast do you know what i mean

Speaker 15 love you and all that but hey do you know what i mean she just got she really is good so you know a bit rice a bit salad, chicken, lamb.

Speaker 15 The last I cooked was two days ago, and I made like brown shoe lamb with rice and a cucumber salad.

Speaker 1 They really,

Speaker 15 my son was like, mom, this is the bomb.

Speaker 1 So for your dream main, you're having the venison. Yes.
With lobsters, the surf and turf. Mm-hmm.
And then your dream side dish.

Speaker 1 of these sauteed vegetables. Yes.
Yeah. And a fond and fond and potato.

Speaker 1 Fond and potatoes as the side dish. Yeah.
Yeah. So that sounds fair enough.
I think surf and turf being the venison and the lobster

Speaker 1 is fine. What if someone like showed you a video of an orange deer

Speaker 1 and a lobster? Just before I'm about to. I know they were friends.

Speaker 15 Oh, then I'm going to, it's going to be hard. I'm not going to do it that day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is great because your.

Speaker 1 Your limit to this thing seems to be a 24-hour period. So you feel guilty.
And then if you come back the next day, it's like you're a new person and you've never seen those animals before.

Speaker 15 You know, there is times, there's times where I am literally like, oh, no, you see things.

Speaker 15 But I do feel, look, each of their own. And I understand why people who are vegan are taking that necessary road, you know, and you've got to fight for a cause.

Speaker 15 So where I can, you know, I try not to be wasteful. I try to do my part where there might be some weeks I don't eat meat.
I might just eat fish, be pescetarian, or sometimes I won't eat meat or fish.

Speaker 15 And not necessarily more out of like regards to the planet and so on. I'm trying to do my contribution.
I'll call myself a flexitarian.

Speaker 1 Tell you what, Judy.

Speaker 1 Judy surprised herself with that term, by the way. Yeah.
There is such thing as a flexitarian. I know, but you exactly.
But then you looked around as if you'd said that and you'd never heard of it.

Speaker 15 I just didn't know you was going to say.

Speaker 1 It's a real privilege to like in real time watch you literally gear shift into loose women mode and just do that that was that was like absolutely like you know been fucking around the whole podcast and then into like so some weeks i would try and eat uh some weeks i would try and not eat fish i'm a flexitarian what would we call it and do a little funny face

Speaker 1 absolutely nailed that segment on the next bit

Speaker 1 that was great

Speaker 1 absolutely because also you know listeners can't see it but when you've been talking there'd be a lot of hand gestures as soon as we went into loose women mode hands together on the table in front of you.

Speaker 1 They did.

Speaker 1 Is that really nice and neat?

Speaker 15 Diplomatic with my fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 Very diplomatic cross fingers.

Speaker 15 Yeah, sitting up a little bit more straight because you want to get your point across clearly.

Speaker 15 You want to understand that you might have an opinion, but you're open to understanding other people have an opinion too.

Speaker 1 Who's the one on... Let's look at what I'm saying.
I just know.

Speaker 1 I was there. It's like someone else has walked in.
It's great. Who's the one on loose women?

Speaker 1 Who, when you see you've got a record with that person, you're like, oh, I've really got to find my corner on this. This person, this is my arch nemesis.

Speaker 15 All of my sister queens, I love them all, and they're all opinionated. I think that's why we're all on the panel.
Do you know what I mean? And that's what's so great.

Speaker 15 No one's just sitting there going, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. So, I mean, I'm happy to be on with anybody because we've all got different emotions, different experiences.

Speaker 15 So, some topics touch us more than the others. But it's lovely that we can get into a heated debate.
And then Arthur's like, we're going over, we're going over to get a drink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how about babes? And then we're cool.

Speaker 15 So, there's not one particular person that no i'm like no no

Speaker 15 i don't think so you know who's the most opinionated people on there definitely you know i think we all got our light but yeah there's ones that are probably more opinionated but i'm good with all of them like that yeah yeah yeah you don't you don't think you've got to go ahead yeah i've got to really get my game ahead on because that

Speaker 15 no i don't treat porter i knew he was gonna say janet we love janet we know what janet's like janet will say how it is i mean janet will say how it is. Carol will say how it is.

Speaker 15 Denise will say how it is. I will say how it is.
Charlene will say how it is. Brenda.
I mean, we all do in our own light. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 Is it fair to say that everyone would say how it is? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Let me sit in my

Speaker 1 hands crossed.

Speaker 1 You know, all of us have opinions. So, yeah.

Speaker 15 And sometimes it gets heated on there, but we're just talking about a particular subject and then we're good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 It's funny that I always get people, especially newspapers, magazines, any interviews I do, they want to know who's arguing, who's the bitch is, who's this out of the loose women.

Speaker 1 I think it's because we're all women. If it was all men, no one would ask.
James is basically a sexist tabloid journalist.

Speaker 1 Oh, big time.

Speaker 1 My role on this show is to be the sexist one. He's a provocateur.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm here for. Okay, babe.
I nearly got it out of you.

Speaker 15 Nearly.

Speaker 1 Before we move on to dream drink, if a deer and a lobster were friends, how do you think they would hang out? In what environment? Great question.

Speaker 15 Good question. They'd hang out in a beautiful Scottish valley where there's beautiful, fresh, natural lake, yeah, spring water, yeah,

Speaker 15 and the orange deer would be on the hilltops

Speaker 15 and they would meet when the orange deer comes to have be grass-fed

Speaker 1 as he dips his delicate nose into the water,

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Speaker 1 Hi.

Speaker 1 Hi, hi. Hi, hi.
The deer would be hi and the loves would be like, hi, hi.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Same voice.
That's how, yeah, same voice. Yeah, yeah.
Because they were meant to be together.

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Speaker 1 What do they have in common?

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Speaker 1 Yeah,

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Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Your dream drink, Judy.

Speaker 1 Will it be the Guinness Punch?

Speaker 15 No, my dream drink, the drink that I love, is

Speaker 15 Rose Champagne.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 15 Rose champagne.

Speaker 1 A particular brand?

Speaker 15 Is there a particular brand?

Speaker 1 I do like... Oh, I can't remember the one.

Speaker 15 Is it L V?

Speaker 15 I can't remember the name. LP? No.

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It's still L V. L V is the guided gangster's paradise of Coolier.

Speaker 15 Search it up.

Speaker 1 What's it? It's... Oh, I've got gas.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 15 It's, I think, I can't remember what it's called. When I see it in the shop, I know, when I go to Majestic,

Speaker 15 they see me coming. Put in Rose Champagne and I'll show you which one it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we're now googling Rose Champagne and putting it on Google Images. And you're going to look at the bottles and say what it's going to do.

Speaker 1 I love it too, Judy. I'm on board with this.
Really? My wife absolutely loves it. And I wasn't, you know, I was like, oh, it's a marketing.
It's a marketing thing. Surely normal champagne is fine.

Speaker 1 There's certain foods. I'm becoming a lady lady now.
Lady Lady's here.

Speaker 15 The thing is, there's certain food that's so nice that it just has to be washed down.

Speaker 15 Something that is...

Speaker 1 fruitful and expensive.

Speaker 1 Also, this is your dream meal, you know. You may as well pick something fancy.

Speaker 1 What champagne, is that?

Speaker 15 Yeah, it's going to be rose champagne.

Speaker 15 Very chilled.

Speaker 1 It goes perfectly with your starter. It does and your main.

Speaker 15 And my mains. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your surfing turf main of the benefit of the water.

Speaker 15 There is a wine because I used to drink Prosecco a lot and I just can't drink it.

Speaker 1 It just doesn't drink me. I mean, like

Speaker 1 Viv Clic Clico. Verve Clico.
Verve Clico Rose.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Sponsor.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is not, for us, this is not the sort of podcast that Verve Clico are going to sponsor on. No, because they sponsor like polo dorms and shit.
They're not going to sponsor off menu.

Speaker 15 Well, the thing is, I, you know, there's an only wine that I really like is I do like a wine. It's by a company called Chapel Down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in Kent. They're based in Kent.

Speaker 15 Yeah, and there's a drink, their white rine, sparkling wine, Bacchus.

Speaker 15 Lady Bacchus.

Speaker 1 Lady Backers.

Speaker 1 Barakas.

Speaker 1 Backers? Backers.

Speaker 1 Lady Backers.

Speaker 1 Chapel Down.

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 typical backers, yeah, lady backers, lady backers, ladybackers, English sparkling wine's great, it's beautiful, it's really good.

Speaker 15 Do you see that Bacchus wine, right? Yeah, if you drink that when you're getting backers, I'll be some point, honestly. Let me tell you something, right?

Speaker 15 That juice is it's it's so nice on a series of, it's light, it's got a nice apple-y kind of taste. That's what I can taste.

Speaker 15 I'm not saying that it's definite, but it's just refreshing, it's light, it's smooth.

Speaker 15 I find, yes, great with fish and all the rest of it but you definitely could have it just on the summer afternoon with your friends going out just in your house by yourself drinking thinking about your ex you could have it at any stage it's one of those it's so easy to drink well I think chapel down if you put chapel down on your menu I think they're way more likely to be listening someone from chapel down might be listening chapel down if you're listening boo boo okay let me do my posh voice hello chapel down this is ladybackers

Speaker 15 i am an absolute fan of your delicate light bubbles on my tongue

Speaker 15 you know if you would like to contact me

Speaker 1 I am here to definitely advertise and make the world know of your divine

Speaker 1 divine specimen of a wine I would like to come to your vineyard and crumple my toes all over your grapes

Speaker 1 yes and let it drip between the creases and help produce that ever so beautifully rich but delicate flavour just london wine chapel down

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 kent i think it's kent somewhere in the place

Speaker 1 chapel down with judy love

Speaker 15 and ladybackers

Speaker 1 Well, I can't see any reason why they're not just going to send you a whole crate of those now, Judy.

Speaker 1 They're going to be sending it right now.

Speaker 15 Sage, honestly, and they've got a rose, but yeah,

Speaker 15 it's the sparkling. Sparkling.

Speaker 1 Sparkling.

Speaker 1 Sparkling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well that's good. This is good.
This is a fancy meal. It's very fancy.
Yeah, isn't it? I love it no much. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we try and predict sometimes what the guests might choose. I didn't really know what you'd choose.
I mean, the only thing I know...

Speaker 1 I think the only time I've ever spoken to you about food is just knowing that you like Nando's. That's it.

Speaker 15 I do like Nando's, but I think I like Nando's as a quick thing with the kids. But my favourite, I think one of my favourite West Indian food is Oxtale.

Speaker 15 I love it, Oxtale. It's got to be cooked really well.
It's got to be succulent and just drop off the bone, sweet and nice. Nando's is not, it would definitely not be my,

Speaker 15 you know, if I that one amazing meal.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, this is the dream of the conversation we had at Tunisia.

Speaker 1 Wipe the media.

Speaker 1 The gas from the smuggle.

Speaker 1 I was trying to not belch

Speaker 1 I was trying to catch you

Speaker 1 I was trying to not burp yeah so you chose to do that

Speaker 1 and it just what did my face look like I missed I was I turned around and I just heard a honk yeah

Speaker 1 yeah your eyes closed and your bottom lip but only your top lip

Speaker 1 and then you kind of blew upwards into your face.

Speaker 1 You bumped in your own face. Yeah, I was trying to hold it.
It's very gassy, this diet coke. I was trying to hold the belch because it would have came out.

Speaker 1 I can't even belch silently because I've got

Speaker 15 the mic in my mouth.

Speaker 1 I was trying to hold it and then it just forced its way out. Yeah.
Well, you got away with it, Judy. Well done.
I was beaten up by

Speaker 1 bubbles.

Speaker 1 I'm glad we filmed this now. Yeah.
Oh, my lord.

Speaker 1 You'll see what your face looked like.

Speaker 1 Don't you worry.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 I'm going back for more.

Speaker 1 Straight in. Mountain two.
Do it again. So chapel down if you're listening.
That's what happens when she has bubbles.

Speaker 1 That's great setting.

Speaker 1 You want Lady Bacchus to come down to the vineyard and burp in her own face?

Speaker 1 Oh, Lady Bacchus.

Speaker 15 Lady Backers, they might say copyrights, Lady Backers, but I did. Lady Macas, because there is backers.
How can I say it?

Speaker 1 Backshot?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Lady Backshot.
Yeah, yeah. Lady Backshat.
Backshat. Backshot.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she could say

Speaker 1 that. Backshot's the opposite of a Facebook.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Lady Backshot.

Speaker 1 She'd be like back shot, but it's, yeah, it is the opposite, isn't it?

Speaker 15 My gosh, Ed.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 You know, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just loving it. Just loving every second of this, Judy.
Just enjoying it. Such a good time.
Enjoying ourselves.

Speaker 1 Before we move on, do you remember what you said to me about Nando's?

Speaker 1 A couple of years ago now?

Speaker 1 What did I say?

Speaker 15 Did I want a black card?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I told you that, like, because of the podcast, there was talk of us getting black cards, but I wasn't sure yet.

Speaker 15 Hold on a minute. Let me get it right eye vision.

Speaker 15 What are you trying to say to me?

Speaker 1 No, we haven't got.

Speaker 1 On the day that I saw you, this is a couple of years ago now. I was on my phone and you were like,

Speaker 1 you're on your phone all the time today. You're so nosy.

Speaker 1 What are you on your phone all the time? I was like,

Speaker 1 there's talk of us getting black cards, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 And you were like, you were suddenly

Speaker 1 really interested in you. Did I try and breed for you? Yeah, well, basically, you said, I'll tell you this: you get a black card, you get a black girlfriend.

Speaker 1 You told me.

Speaker 1 I was trying to give myself to you, wasn't I? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 15 I was like, and by the way, this will be the black girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Specifically,

Speaker 1 specifically.

Speaker 1 What was your response to that? I just laughed. I just laughed a lot.
I thought it was funny. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wasn't scared. No, I wasn't scared.

Speaker 15 Okay, okay, okay, James.

Speaker 1 I thought it was funny.

Speaker 1 Swim over, babe. Swim over.

Speaker 1 Come on now.

Speaker 1 Woo! Well, black card in my teeth. Yeah,

Speaker 1 from Lakanda.

Speaker 1 Fumlakanda, Shashakanda. Hey.

Speaker 15 Come over that James Bond with a black card in his teeth.

Speaker 15 Okay, babes.

Speaker 15 So you didn't get the black card? No, I didn't get it.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Didn't work out in the end, so sorry.
Never mind.

Speaker 1 Turned away at the border. yeah

Speaker 1 get it out the water yeah what happened

Speaker 1 just didn't i don't know i don't know what went wrong now because a few years ago but like uh didn't just didn't didn't work out do you know what nando's did give me free food oh yeah yeah yeah they sent me vouchers and everything oh yeah we ate for days yeah it was nice so thank you very much nando's thank you very much nando's

Speaker 1 Your dream dessert.

Speaker 15 Oh, my dream. Do you know what?

Speaker 15 So yesterday I had a dessert that is just so playing on my mind yeah so luscious it was i used to be very much a fan of like anything caramel and chocolate and honeycomb but yesterday i had a thin apple tart

Speaker 1 i might have to go back today

Speaker 1 yeah where was it from it was from the ivy oh

Speaker 15 it was absolutely divine

Speaker 15 and it was very thin pastry beautiful caramelized apple yeah which i never were i can't say it too well

Speaker 15 and it had like honeycomb popping candy on it oh nice and then this lovely rich smooth ice cream on the top oh vanilla ice it was vanilla it was very very not rich in a way that you know give it indigestion but creamy and it just and then they um they had some brandy or something and they flamed it and poured it over and oh my god nice it was divine absolutely divine so you're thinking about going back there today

Speaker 1 back to the iv two days at nobody for the apple pot for the apple tart let's try just try and try and lie and say it was three days ago

Speaker 15 yes i might have to order that to take away i don't even know if they do take away but i'm sure i think the fire might be an issue to take away yeah they'll just let yeah it's true

Speaker 15 the delivery boxes are completely on fire it was so delicious it was really delicious so i think something like that because it's still got a bit of caramel still a bit of the fruit, and I do love pastry, especially when the pastry's got a little bit of moistness to it.

Speaker 1 Oh, it sounds like a dream. It's all your favorite things.
All my favorite things in one day. Brandy and apple is such a nice combo.

Speaker 15 It is, isn't it? My childhood.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah? What?

Speaker 15 Just full of brandy and apples.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it just reminded me of my childhood. Right, why? Because it was funny.
I have never heard anyone. Because I love apples.
And there was always brandy in my mum's wardrobe.

Speaker 1 And we used to drink out of it and fill it back up with water and apple juice. So brandy and apple just

Speaker 1 reminded me of my childhood.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm so glad I followed up on that. Yeah, well done.

Speaker 1 I was going to let that go. You sound strange because I was not used to these kind of comments over the last hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one else.

Speaker 1 So who's we? You and your siblings? Or is it?

Speaker 15 Yeah, we're my siblings.

Speaker 1 We're going the wardrobe.

Speaker 15 We're my my friends my mom was there a bottle of brandy in the wardrobe that'd be like for the guests found it and then you know we'd take some from it and then fill it out with water and apple juice so hang on so this is

Speaker 1 water and apple juice

Speaker 15 and then when guests came around and she'd pour offer them brandy oh

Speaker 1 it was just like apple juice watery apple juice so why was it in her wardrobe i don't know rather than i don't i can't answer now because she's in heaven but i should have asked her beforehand i don't know.

Speaker 1 She's probably hiding it from me. Yeah.
It was just, I don't know why it was in the wardrobe. It was just in there.
It was just in the wardrobe.

Speaker 15 Maybe that was for medicinal purposes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Maybe it was like because rum, there's certain rum, like Jamaican rum, like my mum would use it. If you've got like...

Speaker 15 temperature or a bad knee you'd put your hand and rub it on those parts because it's such like high-proof yeah yeah

Speaker 1 so maybe that was the rum i don't know maybe that was the brandy so she had it in there for that, but instead she'd like, you know, be rubbing apple juice on her leg.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 15 Yeah, maybe it was that. Yeah, she's rubbing apple juice.
I think maybe what it is,

Speaker 15 you had a little cabinet that had the alcohol, and that was the extra one that you just put away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 If you run out, then you know you've got one spare in the wardrobe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So that's why this apple tart with brandy on it reminded you of your childhood.
Childhood.

Speaker 15 Apple and brandy.

Speaker 1 The brandy would be in the wardrobe and you'd replace it with the apple.

Speaker 15 Yeah, or I'd eat the apples and then we would sneak out some of the brandy.

Speaker 1 So when you're eating the apples, are these like, I'm imagining you climbing like trees in an orchard and eating the apples. Oh my gosh, like you're like little rascals.

Speaker 15 I'll tell you what really it reminds me as well because it's that winter feeling of having toffee apples.

Speaker 15 So imagine that toffee apple taste or the sweetness of the apple, a little shot of brandy, pastry.

Speaker 1 That's childhood. That's childhood.
That is childhood. The shot of fireworks night.

Speaker 15 There it is. Yeah.
Yeah. That's what I think that was one of the devils.

Speaker 1 Coffee apples and fireworks night.

Speaker 15 Nostalgia. That's the bit.

Speaker 1 What's your opinion of Guy Fawkes? If you're going to go into loose women mode and give an opinion on Guy Fawkes.

Speaker 15 Well, I'm not great on the history. He burnt down the place, didn't he?

Speaker 1 He tried. He tried to.
He tried to. He got busted.

Speaker 15 Yeah, so he's a naughty boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 And, you know, at that time, everyone has different emotional needs and people in different places in their life.

Speaker 15 And we're not sure exactly where Guy Fawkes was, even though, you know, we have a story, but we haven't spoken direct to him, so it's hard to really judge.

Speaker 15 However, from the evidence, I would say what he was doing was absolutely terrible.

Speaker 1 Great, very balanced, very measured. Balanced.
You've used the evidence. Yeah, they chopped his knob off when they caught him.
Really?

Speaker 1 Why is knob though?

Speaker 1 Oh, teach him a lesson straight away, right?

Speaker 15 But it wasn't setting up like setting fire to the places with his dick, was he?

Speaker 1 Unless he needed a clinic or something. What the hell was going on there?

Speaker 1 When you heard him setting fire to places with his dick, how are you imagining that? Is he shooting flames out of his dick, or is he striking his dick against a rough surface like a match?

Speaker 15 I feel like he's shooting the flames out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bun, bun, bun, bun.

Speaker 1 Boom, bam, bam, burn.

Speaker 15 That's what I feel like. He's like, oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So like, quick, we got to chop his dick off.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think it was in the moment.

Speaker 1 They didn't just see him try to set fire to it and just chop his dick off straight away. I think they arrested him and they were like torturing him and stuff.
But why the dick?

Speaker 15 What about his hands? It's his hands. His dick's not going to get up, go and walk over to a match and light it, is it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't think it was a preventative measure to stop him setting fire to anything else. I think they'd caught him

Speaker 1 and it was like, it wasn't, right? Let's see you set fire to anything else.

Speaker 1 I'll chop your dick off it was like we've caught you and now we're going to just torture you wow okay i suppose that would be the worst form of torture for any man yeah

Speaker 1 yeah i guess so yeah i wonder if one of the people caught him was an exp

Speaker 1 oh i've got an idea yeah why would you chop his dick off

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 15 Yeah, chat me. You never came and threw a stone at my window.
So, hey, I'm going to make you have no dick

Speaker 15 forget trying to burn down the place and yeah you know causing devastation what about the devastation you caught in my heart yeah so it thought do you know what i mean you set me on fire and never came back

Speaker 15 so i'm gonna chop your dick off

Speaker 1 That's probably what they thought. Yeah.

Speaker 15 And gathered all the men together. And then they all were like, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 I bet he was gutted when he saw that.

Speaker 1 What's dick rolling on the floor?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet he was gutted then. He was jumping ahead a bit.

Speaker 1 I thought he'd be gutted when you saw the people deciding his fate and one of them was his ex. Oh, I don't know where this is headed.

Speaker 1 I'm sure he saw his dick rolling on the floor.

Speaker 1 And then I think he literally was gutted. Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of things that start with chopping the dick off.

Speaker 15 Best place to start.

Speaker 1 That's the best place to start.

Speaker 1 But that's why, you know, traditionally,

Speaker 1 you eat toffee apples on bonfire night because the stick's meant to represent his dick. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like toffee apples. Yeah, well, you're eating the apple apples night.
So what is the apple? What is the apple represent?

Speaker 15 I was going to say.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm not going to answer that.

Speaker 1 I like eating the apples.

Speaker 1 The toffee apples.

Speaker 1 That's a great dessert. A great dessert.
I'm going to read your menu back to you now and see how you feel about it, Judy. Shall I tell you how I feel? Yeah.

Speaker 15 Goddamn hungry.

Speaker 1 that's how i feel that's it we just get you all hungry now you've got to go straight to the argument

Speaker 1 we apologize you would like sparkle in water pop numbs or bread you want sourdough not too crispy with president salted butter starter a seafood platter scotlops king prawns yellow tail ceviche caviar and butter from goat pickled cucumbers sorry

Speaker 15 pickled cucumber and beach was really nice as well or beetroot yeah it's like kickled pickled it's a nice pickled really spin spin sliced pickled.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 15 there's a salad on the side.

Speaker 15 Better have a salad on the side, Joe.

Speaker 15 Who's pickled cucumbers? Absolutely. They're good.
It's nice, really nice.

Speaker 1 Main course, you want surf and turf, which is venison and lobster.

Speaker 1 Saute spinach and fond of potatoes.

Speaker 1 Heritage carrots would be nice.

Speaker 15 Baby Heritage Carrots.

Speaker 1 We could add that on there. a little sprinkle of heritage.
Is this a buffet? Would it be a buffet?

Speaker 1 It wasn't when we talked about it with you.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry, but I'm not supposed to be talking about it this way. Here's the end of the book.

Speaker 1 That's so much engaging.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I was fucking how much

Speaker 1 it was a buffet. How much we could go back for? That's your art time in the beginning.
I might want to talk about it. You could have made it a buffet.

Speaker 1 okay. You're only just now realising what the podcast is.
Oh, sorry. Okay, you go along, babes.
Drink, you want Chapel Downs, uh, sparkling white wine? Yeah. You don't want the rose.
Oh, both. Both.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
The ro yeah, the rose rose champagne. Dessert.
Oh, is it rose?

Speaker 15 I thought it was rose.

Speaker 1 Rose champagne. Oh, yeah.
Probably is. Okay.
Dessert.

Speaker 1 Thin apple tart from the ivy. Yes.

Speaker 15 With my Guinness Punch ice cream.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
With your Guinness Punch ice cream. Punch ice cream.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 This isn't. This is.

Speaker 1 This is in the BBC. You can say whatever you like.

Speaker 1 Judy, thank you so much. That was fantastic.
It's a great menu. Yeah.
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 15 Would you would you eat that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, all of it. Yeah.
I'll eat it. Absolutely delicious.

Speaker 15 That's really delicious. Lady Bugshot would like to say thank you very much for having her as well.

Speaker 1 It's been an absolute mindset of pleasure. And Queen Safufu?

Speaker 1 Queen Safufu is back in her kingdom.

Speaker 15 Queendom, actually, shall I say? And please, white men, swim over.

Speaker 1 Swim

Speaker 1 over.

Speaker 1 Before we end, you want to do your three favourite white men? Shout them out.

Speaker 15 Oh my gosh. Jonathan Ross.

Speaker 1 So quick.

Speaker 15 It's really hard. I've got a list.
Gordon Ramsey.

Speaker 15 Dermot O'Leary.

Speaker 1 there's too many obviously

Speaker 1 that's a good top three yeah I think the Jonathan lost Gordon Ramsey and Dermot O'Leary there we go top three favourite white men

Speaker 1 Judy thank you so much for coming to the dream restaurant thanks for having me thank you Judy

Speaker 1 well there we go James

Speaker 1 What an episode. What an episode.
What a guest. I'm absolutely exhausted.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I laughed a lot. I feel high.

Speaker 1 Yeah. High as a kite.
I'm buzzing. That was such a fun episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very fancy menu. Yeah, good menu.

Speaker 1 This is the thing. I don't really remember a lot of the menu.
I know that I liked it. Yeah, yeah.
But that wasn't about the menu. No, no, it was about the journey.
Yes. The characters.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The stories. The burping in her own face.

Speaker 1 All of those things. Fantastic.
Truly fantastic. You must go and see Judy Love on tour.
The one one like judy love judy love the one like judy love

Speaker 1 yeah i'm saying it like that because she said on her social media she says the one like hello is the one like judy love yes but on this sheet here it says judy love the one like which feels like the wrong way around but i guess for listings purposes you got to put the name first yeah yeah yeah someone's got involved there yes uh the tour is on sale now go to judilove.co.uk for tickets uh there's loads of dates uh but i you know i'm sure judy will be adding more because she's very popular yeah yeah and thank you judy for not saying ready, break, of course.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you, Judy. Don't think Reddy.
I mean, she might have said ready break, but I probably didn't hear it because I was crying with laughter. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And probably like, you know, with Judy, like, if they showed her the dragon beforehand, she wouldn't be able to eat it for another day.

Speaker 1 Give it to me tomorrow. I could eat it.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much, Judy, for coming into the dream restaurant. And that's the last episode of the series, James.
The final episode of series 19.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 nine.

Speaker 1 So you nearly got it right. Yes.
It was a simple little teen that was wrong. Yeah, well, you know, I never know.
I mean, I had literally no idea which it was, so I thought, just shoot for that.

Speaker 1 I'm quite surprised I got the first syllable right. Yeah.
So quite happy with that, actually. Well done.

Speaker 1 So then that means like, I mean, really, the next series being series 10, we should like, that should be something special, shouldn't it? Are they not all special?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's true, but we should do something like extra special for series 10. What do you suggest?

Speaker 1 Every episode is the returning guest. No, I don't think so.
Huh? Well, there's so many people we want to talk to. Yeah, yeah, there are other people we want.

Speaker 1 Only people, members of the monarchy. Definitely not, James.
Maybe National Treasure only.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're sort of there anyway, really. We're sort of there anyway, actually.

Speaker 1 Should we just do like a normal series? Yeah, a pretty special pod. Yeah, it's a pretty special pod.
How about this? We ask people about like parenting instead and like what it's like to be a parent.

Speaker 1 No, that's not a bad idea. That's a a good idea.
Yeah, maybe we'll James and Ed's Parenting Heaven. This is Parenting Heaven.

Speaker 1 All the things that are good about being a parent.

Speaker 1 Perfect. We'll see you next series for James and Ed's Parenting Heaven.
Be good. Bye.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Trust. It's not just given.
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