AJ Brown, NFL Preview With Kevin Clark, Hard Knocks Episode 1 + Mt Rushmore Of Skills We Wish We Learned When We Were Younger

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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we have a twofer for the people.

Speaker 10 We got AJ Brown, Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 10 Awesome interview with him from Eagles Camp.

Speaker 1 And then we have Kevin Clark from ESPN, formerly the ringer,

Speaker 1 come stop in the studio.

Speaker 3 Little NFL preview was so awesome just talking about the entire league, teams that we think are on the rise, teams that are going to suck.

Speaker 5 It just feels good talking football with the boys.

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Speaker 18 Hank is back and he brought it.

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Speaker 13 Today is Wednesday, August 6th, and we had hard knocks.

Speaker 34 Football is back.

Speaker 35 That's my review.

Speaker 36 Yeah, hard knocks happen.

Speaker 37 This is you can set. You can set your watch to this exact week every single year.

Speaker 37 Our excitement for hard knocks and then our disappointment once we remember that, oh, yeah, hard knocks is just going to be like a 45-minute commercial for whatever team they happen to be profiling because otherwise no teams would ever do it, and the NFL wouldn't allow it.

Speaker 37 So

Speaker 37 it was, we saw football, we saw some nice slow-motion throws. Yeah, we saw Deion Dawkins driving like a maniac, putting his kid in a drift seat.

Speaker 37 I didn't know that they made drift seats and child seat versions. That was awesome.
And they like ice cream.

Speaker 18 Yeah. That's my hard knocks.

Speaker 40 It was

Speaker 4 every time we get to this point in the calendar, I do get excited because hard knocks does hold a special place in my heart because it usually is, we always do the football is back, football is back.

Speaker 1 I know the Hall of Fame game, but this is really like, oh, hard knocks.

Speaker 29 Like you're watching them in camp.

Speaker 1 They're talking about the season.

Speaker 5 It feels like it's all coming around.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's really just, and especially because the bills are good.

Speaker 1 That's the difference.

Speaker 43 Like, usually they would not let playoff teams in.

Speaker 1 I did like the, it was probably about 15 of the 45 minutes.

Speaker 16 It was just like Josh Allen is the greatest human ever.

Speaker 45 That was cool.

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, the ice, the ice cream was probably the big takeaway.

Speaker 47 Tradavious White, very bad cone management, but otherwise, that ice cream looked incredible.

Speaker 11 And then the only other note I had was Dawson Knox,

Speaker 41 salute to you.

Speaker 40 Very relatable moment where in front of his wife, he packed his bag and just jammed everything in.

Speaker 1 And then his wife's like, well, you can't do that.

Speaker 49 Let me do it.

Speaker 9 And then she perfectly packed the bag for him.

Speaker 4 Like, that was just genius move by him because everyone does it

Speaker 10 just throw everything in there and it's all wrinkle it like it almost i the way i pack as i'm putting my clothes in there they get wrinkled like they get wrinkled on touch of the suitcase and then and then the wife comes just like here dawson let me just do this for you and make it so it's perfect so great job i know what you're doing dude It's a, yeah, it's a classic trick.

Speaker 55 Oh, I don't, I don't have any idea how to pack this suitcase.

Speaker 37 What do you mean my t-shirts are going to get wrinkly? I don't understand.

Speaker 37 Oh, you want to do it? Oh, that's awesome. You're so sweet.
I bet they've been married for less than two years. That seems like, that seems like a relatively newlywed thing.

Speaker 37 I will always love Hard Knox.

Speaker 37 I usually like it when the coach gets up and you get to see a little bit of personality from the coach giving the Welcome to Training Camp speech, and they just like rip into something because they've had all summer to prepare.

Speaker 37 We saw that with Rex Ryan. We saw that with everybody, for the most part, every team.

Speaker 37 I mean, even last year, Eberflues, I was like, maybe Eberfluz has the pulse of this team, leader of men, question mark.

Speaker 37 But this, it's bullshit that they didn't show the sean mcdermott training camp pop-up speech especially if he had like the redacted 28 pages that he was going to talk about but like you know what i'm talking about like when he's talking to the team and he's like screaming at them and getting them fired up that's what i love to see out of hard knocks and training camp and we didn't get that so i'm a little upset Yeah, yeah, I wish you hadn't just said Iber Fluce's name because I actually was thinking about that while watching this.

Speaker 16 I was texting my friend John Greenberg, who does great work on the athletic, and saying, like, remember when basically Harden HBO tried to pitch to everyone that Eberflus was a cool guy who totally was competent?

Speaker 5 That was last year's hard knocks for how the Bears season went was basically triumph of the will.

Speaker 41 That was just straight propaganda.

Speaker 40 It was as propaganda as it gets.

Speaker 42 But at least the bills are good.

Speaker 1 I will say also the new stadium looks awesome.

Speaker 18 The wind shit, Hank, that had to fuck you up a little.

Speaker 4 Although maybe, would you say that confirms wind isn't real?

Speaker 53 Or they had to do the science.

Speaker 9 Weather isn't real, but wind is.

Speaker 39 Wind is real, but weather isn't real

Speaker 39 for over-unders. Weather isn't real.
Okay.

Speaker 61 Okay, so they designed the stadium.

Speaker 37 When they showed the stadium, I was like, I hope they talk about how it gets the wind out.

Speaker 37 And then they spent the next six minutes talking about the science behind it and how it's engineered to absolutely make it still to play playoff games, which I think is probably good for the sport, but also the win didn't really seem to affect Josh at home.

Speaker 62 No.

Speaker 1 No, but you also have to think this is a stadium that they're building for the next hundred years.

Speaker 63 Josh Allen's probably not going to play for another 100 years.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 59 But

Speaker 64 classy move by Josh

Speaker 10 called Mr.

Speaker 12 Pagula the whole time, too.

Speaker 58 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 9 When a grown man calls another grown man Mr., you have to when it's the owner.

Speaker 37 Especially when he signed that big check. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 49 All right.

Speaker 5 What are the other two things you had?

Speaker 37 All right. Two other things.
aj epaneza absolute psychopath crazy caught a snake with his bare hands

Speaker 4 wait ajepaneza psychopath that dog is the craziest dog of all time he has a dog that barks when he sees a snake like the whole time

Speaker 1 yeah get that dog away from the snake

Speaker 37 No, but the dog is trained to hunt snakes. Well, not even to hunt snakes.
The dog is trained to locate snakes and be like, hey, hey, hey, dad, there's a snake over here. Come get it.

Speaker 43 I know what you're saying, but I'm saying, like, I watched that clip.

Speaker 65 I was like, please get that dog away from the snake. That snake's going to kill the dog.

Speaker 37 I think the dog knew what it was doing, and I think it has trust, implicit trust in its owner.

Speaker 37 Like, if I was that dog's owner and it saw a snake, that dog would get the fuck out of there and be like, hey, let's bounce.

Speaker 53 Yeah. But

Speaker 37 I'm not like a six-foot-three linebacker that's jacked up. And then he goes over there and just grabs the snake.
An 11-foot-long snake.

Speaker 37 How is that even possible?

Speaker 5 Ask Hank, the AI videos.

Speaker 50 Hey, Hank, did you see that river with the Anacondas breeding?

Speaker 39 Scary.

Speaker 64 They're scary.

Speaker 41 There's about

Speaker 1 60,000 anacondas that this drone shot got.

Speaker 46 Looks so real.

Speaker 39 And the giant Anaconda.

Speaker 64 Oh, yeah, and the big one at the end.

Speaker 59 That one was real. That one was so real.

Speaker 32 Okay, what was your other note?

Speaker 37 My other note, Bills fans, fans, turn off the podcast or just fast forward like 30 seconds right now if you're a Buffalo Bills fan.

Speaker 37 I'm pretty sad for Bills fans.

Speaker 37 I'm pretty sad because

Speaker 37 it is just,

Speaker 37 it's kind of, it's great to watch Bills fans. I love Bills fans.
They're great people. They love their football team.

Speaker 37 Like, this is, you don't have to go out of your way to make propaganda showing that Bills fans are awesome people.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 37 But the belief and the hope that they have, like, this is our year. We're finally going to get done.
We're doing it for all the old guys that made four Super Bowls in a row, didn't win a single one.

Speaker 37 I'm pretty sad for them.

Speaker 53 And I hope that I'm wrong.

Speaker 56 I hope that I'm wrong, but I am pretty sad.

Speaker 5 Bills fans are the best.

Speaker 4 It was also actually cool being, because we were there two years ago, three years ago.

Speaker 1 I like that the Bills do do it.

Speaker 58 old school at a like small college dormitory.

Speaker 4 There's what'd they say,

Speaker 4 five teams in the entire NFL do that?

Speaker 9 So I like that.

Speaker 29 And we, we got to see that.

Speaker 1 We were there.

Speaker 12 We were in the dorm room. So

Speaker 10 I know this is dumb brain shit, but I was like, oh, shit.

Speaker 38 I know, I know what that looks like.

Speaker 1 I was also there.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 73 I know.

Speaker 73 It's nice.

Speaker 14 That's it.

Speaker 64 That's all I got.

Speaker 11 That place exists.

Speaker 37 That's a real spot.

Speaker 34 I know it because I put it there.

Speaker 40 Yeah, I know that's really stupid, but it really, like, if you've been somewhere that

Speaker 9 is then on TV, you're the whole time you're like, oh, shit.

Speaker 18 I know that place.

Speaker 46 I also, yeah, I saw that once.

Speaker 15 Hank, your review.

Speaker 59 Okay, good job, Hank.

Speaker 14 Football is back.

Speaker 39 Football's back. And yeah, I love hard knocks and football is back.

Speaker 75 Okay.

Speaker 39 Every year, I love this first episode. It reminds me so much that football is back.

Speaker 40 Zach, your review.

Speaker 39 And it will be the last episode I watch.

Speaker 40 You're muted, Zach.

Speaker 4 But it looks like you're making a great point.

Speaker 77 I think that hard knocks is about to get so hard knocked.

Speaker 78 Okay. And that

Speaker 77 I hope the best for the Bills.

Speaker 4 So what was your favorite scene?

Speaker 77 I have been hearing a lot about this Ice Cream Sunday that was being made.

Speaker 77 Possibly that could be constructed at a later date.

Speaker 74 Okay.

Speaker 77 Did you have a favorite spot, Big Cat, where

Speaker 55 they popped off the page a little bit?

Speaker 65 No, I think my favorite spot is PFT and I are going to are going to gift you an HBO subscription.

Speaker 81 So we're going to get that for you because we know you're going to get two of them.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 77 I appreciate that, guys.

Speaker 77 I can try to lock in with.

Speaker 77 I know my brother might have one, so maybe I'll hop in there. Like, I should have done that earlier, but that's on me.

Speaker 59 Okay, can we get a quick

Speaker 9 quick visual of your apartment?

Speaker 11 It looks nice.

Speaker 71 This is

Speaker 71 me at the desk.

Speaker 74 We've got TV

Speaker 58 or bed.

Speaker 31 Wait, sorry.

Speaker 37 That's a sick HV setup.

Speaker 71 And then...

Speaker 74 That's a nice place. Desk.

Speaker 39 Yeah. Oh, the double monitors.

Speaker 82 Look at that.

Speaker 53 Whoa, Zach.

Speaker 64 Oh, my God.

Speaker 79 I like it. It's a bad look, I know, but so functional.

Speaker 74 Okay.

Speaker 1 Where would you eat the McDonald's?

Speaker 83 Right here.

Speaker 74 Okay, nice.

Speaker 77 This is where all meals are consumed.

Speaker 77 Yeah, this is it. This is the chair.

Speaker 39 How many hours a night are you sitting at that desk?

Speaker 77 Most of the hours until I get to the bed. Yeah,

Speaker 71 all the hours until I go to bed if we're going to be able to.

Speaker 39 On like a Saturday, like a full Saturday. Nice Saturdays past weekend.
It was beautiful out.

Speaker 77 Majority of my hours, which

Speaker 77 I'm going to do less hours, a lot of hours right now.

Speaker 74 No, there's nothing. Fuck it.

Speaker 85 It's so many hours. It is.
It is.

Speaker 8 Be yourself.

Speaker 46 All right, what are you going to say, PFT?

Speaker 37 Well, the one thing that we learned when we were at Bill's camp was they spend most of their time when they're not practicing just straight up playing video games against each other.

Speaker 37 That's like the only thing. It's basically like college.
I think that hard knocks after week one should just be them streaming, playing each other in video games.

Speaker 18 I would love it.

Speaker 80 I would love it.

Speaker 87 That would be more interesting.

Speaker 37 That would be a better show.

Speaker 42 Yeah, I'd agree.

Speaker 40 Okay, what else?

Speaker 1 So we taped the rest of the show in studio.

Speaker 4 Do we have anything else besides the fact that the NFL is banning smelling salts and we got to stand on on the soapbox for our guy George Kittle because it's bullshit.

Speaker 19 And let me just say this.

Speaker 65 First they come for the NFL, then they're going to come for podcasters.

Speaker 69 And some of the best episodes of this show have been after we've done smelling salts.

Speaker 14 Yeah,

Speaker 37 they're trying to outlaw dudes rocking.

Speaker 58 It's crazy.

Speaker 55 It's crazy.

Speaker 39 Is the NHL going to have to now too? Like, are they forcing other leagues?

Speaker 89 I don't know. I read a little bit about it.

Speaker 39 Yeah, smelling salts give you concussions. What I gathered.

Speaker 37 Some of the symptoms or after effects of taking smelling salts, inhaling ammonia salts, are similar to the after effects of concussions.

Speaker 37 Yeah, like if you just rip a smelling salt, you're not going to do great on an IQ test because you're just feeling it like how jacked you are.

Speaker 37 So I don't know if they did the test like 30 seconds after, 10 seconds after, five minutes after,

Speaker 85 but I don't know.

Speaker 37 All I can say for sure is I've ripped probably 400 smelling salts in my life, and I turned out fine.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 43 It might be

Speaker 10 the Bills' game against the Texans last year.

Speaker 1 Do you remember when Josh got hit, and then he did the smelling salts, and he was very concussed, and he came back in?

Speaker 53 Could have been that.

Speaker 37 But I do stand with George Kittle. I think you got to listen to the players on the, you can't, if, you know, you know what Godell is probably doing?

Speaker 37 This is probably one of those things where he's getting ready for the next CBA already. He knows they don't have a union, like a union head.
They've got an interim guy.

Speaker 37 He's taking away smelling salts, and then he's going to say, I'll give you back smelling salts if you play an 18th game.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Something's coming out of the players' paychecks or livelihoods, and then you're going to get smelling salts back.

Speaker 46 And they're like, this rocks.

Speaker 1 I will say, shout out Red Bird Rizzi.

Speaker 31 He had a good idea. He said, let's hypothetically say I get a sideline pass for every game and keep a pocket full of salts.
Pocket smelling technically isn't illegal.

Speaker 31 So if George Kittle just goes and smells this guy's pocket every single, before every single drive, that's not illegal.

Speaker 37 Or fingers. Do you just have a guy soaking his hands in the ammonia and then going up, be like, smell my finger?

Speaker 1 Face masks made out of smelling salts.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 37 We can get around this.

Speaker 92 We've got to figure out a way around it.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 31 I think we're just, I mean, you just go into the blue tent.

Speaker 37 I guess that.

Speaker 2 See, NFL, you've now made it even more confusing because now guys have to go in the blue tent, do the smelling salts, and then you don't know if they're concussed or not.

Speaker 37 That's your fault, Roger. And wouldn't you rather have them doing it in a safe location, not behind closed doors?

Speaker 82 Yeah,

Speaker 53 I would agree. Yeah, let's just be honest with you.

Speaker 39 Give every team an X allotted amount of salts. And they can divvy them up how they want.

Speaker 94 I like that. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 37 Starters only.

Speaker 16 Well, I like that because then you could basically be like at the end of the season, you're like, oh, shit, the Ravens got a big game in Kansas City, but they've used all their smelling salts.

Speaker 18 How do we handicap that?

Speaker 96 You have to think about it. Yeah.

Speaker 37 And you have like some no assaults games against some cupcake opponents, and then you, that's when you bet on the underdog.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 34 That's how you imagine taking it seriously.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the trash talk in college football being like, we're not even going to use our smelling salts on you.

Speaker 47 We know that we'll beat you no matter what.

Speaker 24 Yep.

Speaker 59 This is open some doors.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 9 Do we have anything else?

Speaker 37 Yeah, there's a couple things. Okay.
It's depth chart season. So the first depth charts have come out.
There's really nothing to take from any of them except for the Saints.

Speaker 37 And Brown's death chart, they listed all three of their quarterbacks as first teamers. They've got three starters.
I know if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one, but what if you have three?

Speaker 41 That's tough.

Speaker 64 That's tough. I don't really know.

Speaker 37 Memes isn't on this call, is he?

Speaker 1 No, he's not.

Speaker 37 I was going to ask for a custom meme where it's the dragon, the dragon meme where two are great and then one is like goofy, but all three are goofy.

Speaker 61 Good one for them.

Speaker 37 And then the other news that I had was that ESPN acquired NFL Network. Obviously, we talked about the red zone a little bit already.

Speaker 37 So they have NFL Network. They have that entire thing under their wing.
Now they're going to let the NFL network keep producing some of their shows, but also now the NFL,

Speaker 37 as part of this deal, has a 10% equity stake in ESPN. So the NFL

Speaker 37 now officially owns ESPN, as opposed in the past, where all they could do was, let's just go ahead and give them all our shittiest games for Monday Night Football and make them do whatever we want them to do.

Speaker 37 Then we'll start trickling out good games to them. Now they officially have a 10% ownership stake in ESPN.

Speaker 58 Yeah, Florio's all over this.

Speaker 53 All over this.

Speaker 58 So just remember it.

Speaker 80 Remember it.

Speaker 29 Just think about it.

Speaker 37 I'm glad that Florio's all over this, but I don't know what differences we're going to see, but I do think that the NFL is going to make it way less likely for

Speaker 37 other media companies. to conduct interviews with NFL players.

Speaker 37 That's what I think.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 65 I mean, it's like what we said on Monday.

Speaker 4 I think that ESPN will not rock the boat to start. And then when they have to make more money, they'll start shoving ads and then we'll just be screwed.

Speaker 19 And we'll be like, well, we have the problem is they have us.

Speaker 4 That's really what the issue is with all these

Speaker 97 big

Speaker 16 conglomerates and big companies joining forces.

Speaker 66 They got us. They got us.

Speaker 13 We're going to watch no matter what.

Speaker 18 They got us.

Speaker 1 We cannot do anything except complain on Twitter.

Speaker 18 And we will, but they got us.

Speaker 37 The smelling salts might be a bridge too far for some people. There's definitely one guy out there that saw the smelling salts news.
He was like, fuck it, I'm out. They can only push a man so far.

Speaker 60 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Oh, the NFL's gone woke.

Speaker 17 No smelling salts.

Speaker 1 But then maybe there's one person who comes back because they're like, smelling salts killed my father.

Speaker 61 And now I can

Speaker 46 watch the NFL again.

Speaker 23 The only other thing I had was I'm turning into Frank Fleming because the Cubs season is spiraling right now and the Brewers never lose.

Speaker 81 And I literally have been saying, I've been repeating to myself over and over, the Brewers never lose.

Speaker 32 And like, I wish I had something to chew on because I'm getting that frustrated.

Speaker 12 They're on a 119-game win streak clip.

Speaker 23 Like

Speaker 13 from May 25th on, I think they're like 44 and 16.

Speaker 10 So it would be a 119 winning season.

Speaker 1 They just never fucking lose.

Speaker 43 They never lose.

Speaker 4 All they do is win. They never lose.

Speaker 19 Buster only's head smiling.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 80 It's all happening.

Speaker 40 Okay. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 46 And Schwarber should be MVP because he hit, but we talk about that a little bit later.

Speaker 46 He did hit two home runs on Monday night. They were fucking mammoth.

Speaker 58 All right.

Speaker 13 We got hot seat cool tone, a must-less in hot seat cool throne because Hank's back.

Speaker 4 Mount Rushmore of skills we wish to learn when we were younger.

Speaker 48 Kevin Clark in studio NFL preview.

Speaker 43 Great interview with AJ Brown and Guys on Checks.

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Speaker 28 Hank, hot seat seat cool thrown.

Speaker 39 My hot seat is the Speedway Classic.

Speaker 37 Yeah?

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 70 Wait, we got more news about this?

Speaker 29 This might be a...

Speaker 73 No, this is not a good question.

Speaker 73 All right, whatever.

Speaker 53 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 37 You know what this is? I think this could be a new segment. Hank's recap of the last part of my ticket.
Yeah.

Speaker 100 What was the Speedway Classic? Whatever.

Speaker 39 We talked about it Sunday. My hot seat is...

Speaker 53 Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 39 No, we did.

Speaker 52 We did.

Speaker 1 No, no, I want to hear what the Speedway Classic went on.

Speaker 73 It was a disaster. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, you were here in body.

Speaker 94 I know.

Speaker 1 Your body was.

Speaker 39 Mind, spirit.

Speaker 1 Your body was physical.

Speaker 39 I was reading more about it yesterday, and I really wanted to emphasize

Speaker 39 how bad of an event it was. Yeah.

Speaker 51 I do like this Wednesday show, Hank, recaps the weekend.

Speaker 39 My other hot seat.

Speaker 39 I don't know if it's Shams or Giannis.

Speaker 39 They're in a back and forth.

Speaker 39 Shams keep saying that it's not set in stone that Giannis is coming back, even though Giannis has made it very clear that he's coming back time and time again that they would have to kick him out.

Speaker 39 He's not going to leave. He's sub-tweeting Shams, being like, anyone miss Woge?

Speaker 56 I like that. I like that a lot.

Speaker 4 It's good.

Speaker 39 But Choms reported again that it's not set in stone and he could be leaving.

Speaker 1 At this point, if Giannis

Speaker 1 just stays in Milwaukee for his entire career, he retires a buck. He is a one jersey guy.

Speaker 4 Will he be the most hypothetically traded player of all time?

Speaker 19 Absolutely.

Speaker 37 Already he might be. It's crazy.
I can't think of anybody that would even rival him.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for Bucks fans just having to deal with this all the time. And it doesn't feel like it's gotten ever really close.

Speaker 1 This would be the closest we've ever been, but Giannis is out there saying,

Speaker 29 I'm not leaving.

Speaker 37 Yeah, it was Dame Lilig. I think he was the number one hypothetically traded guy until he did go to Milwaukee.
But yes, it's definitely Giannis. Let Milwaukee enjoy Giannis.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 4 So he's sub-tweeting Shams.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 39 Sub-tweeting Shams.

Speaker 81 I feel like Shams is not someone who would appreciate that.

Speaker 46 He's probably silently kind of.

Speaker 39 Well, that's why he's tripling down, yeah. He refuses to give it up.

Speaker 49 Yeah, Giannis.

Speaker 81 Okay.

Speaker 37 It's not sub-tweeting, it's gyro tweeting when it's Giannis.

Speaker 39 A cool throne is Dildo throwing in the WNBA.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 39 No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 35 I mean,

Speaker 37 I actually had that on my hot team because there was an update about

Speaker 19 Dildo game.

Speaker 39 Well, yeah, well, there's an update about the Speedway Classic.

Speaker 73 What was the update?

Speaker 19 It was a disaster. It was.

Speaker 37 Even more of a disaster. The more things come out, the more you think what a terrible event it was.

Speaker 69 Oh, you're a funny guy, hey.

Speaker 37 They should have had an actual NASCAR race going on during the baseball game.

Speaker 53 That would have been awesome.

Speaker 97 I was talking to Quiggs about this. He said that NASCAR is trying to implement a electric race so it wouldn't be so loud.
so that they could do that while they were doing the baseball.

Speaker 53 I don't know how to get the electric race.

Speaker 37 Next thing you know, we've got electric

Speaker 64 electric power washers.

Speaker 97 It would be impossible to do like the normal race. It's so fucking loud.

Speaker 1 This is one of my ideas for Arlington Heights and the Bears because it used to be a horse track.

Speaker 4 They should build the stadium and then a horse track around the stadium and all the seats, it's glass and all the seats are swivel so you can just watch the game commercial, turn around, watch the race.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 37 I like the idea of

Speaker 37 a dual-use stadium being used for two sports at the same time.

Speaker 4 Like a football game's not enough for you, but we got a horse race going on every time there's a break in the action.

Speaker 2 Because literally, just the ADD stadium.

Speaker 37 Whatever the next generation is. Was it Generation Beta?

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Betas are here.

Speaker 37 Yeah, the Betas are here. They're

Speaker 53 going to must miss beta.

Speaker 37 Their attention span is going to be so low that they're going to need probably three sports going on at once. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So let's get some dual sport sports going on. That'd be sick.

Speaker 16 It'd be so sick if they were just, yeah, they're like, hey, here's a commercial break and here's a race and you just turn around, boom.

Speaker 78 You bet on it.

Speaker 50 Just everything.

Speaker 64 Just figure it out. Yeah, Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 37 Good hot seat, Hank.

Speaker 74 Thanks. Yeah.

Speaker 53 A couple hot seats.

Speaker 85 Extra work.

Speaker 39 My cool throne is, I have a couple, these two. Marsh Madness.
Okay.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 39 NCAA voted not to expand the tournament. Thank you.
Safe for now. Yep.
It's coming.

Speaker 37 Don't expand it. Yeah.

Speaker 73 This is the truth.

Speaker 35 It is.

Speaker 53 I agree with him.

Speaker 37 They put this out there being like, hey, we're not going to do it. Knowing that now

Speaker 37 they moved the Overton window. Now we're talking about the expansion, and next year they're probably going to let it in.

Speaker 9 it's not a ridiculous idea anymore because they've gone all the way to a vote yeah like the tush push they'll probably ban that next year right exactly that's how they work these things or like the the commercials they're gonna put on red zone on espn yeah that's gonna happen okay

Speaker 39 uh then my other cool throne is

Speaker 39 mike francesa slash the giants giants and giants although kind of i don't know the original clip it's a mike francesa old radio clip but he was on wfan can we play it yeah

Speaker 40 find it It's so funny.

Speaker 39 It's so funny.

Speaker 39 The guy calls in and he's like, hey, you ever think the uh, you know, since the San Francisco Giants used to be the New York Giants, when they're ever in town, they do like a lunch or something, and and Francesa hated the call, was disgusted by the call.

Speaker 103 Dan and Woolwick, what's up, Dan?

Speaker 104 Uh, hey, Mike, uh I just got a uh a question about the Giants.

Speaker 104 Uh in your years of experience, have you ever seen uh you know, this how the San Francisco Giants were once the New York Giants have has there ever been either a franchise to franchise or maybe even player-to-player get-together when San Francisco comes to New York?

Speaker 104 Like, do they ever say hi, maybe

Speaker 104 I don't know, go out to dinner or something?

Speaker 103 I don't know what you're talking. What are you talking about?

Speaker 104 Is there ever any interaction when the San Francisco Giants come to New York or vice versa?

Speaker 103 The San Francisco Giants come to New York and do what?

Speaker 103 Have a game.

Speaker 103 They play against the Mets. And what do you want to happen now?

Speaker 104 Do the New York Giants ever reach out to them, either the players or the franchises? Football Giants? Yeah, the Football Giants.

Speaker 103 What is the connection between the San Francisco Giants and the Football Giants?

Speaker 104 Well, they used to be in New York, and they got the same name.

Speaker 103 But

Speaker 103 they have nothing to do with each other, though. There's no connection.

Speaker 103 They have different ownership. There's no connection between the two teams.
I mean, there's no connection in any way between the two teams. They have no relationship.

Speaker 103 Do you think because they're Giants are like brothers or something?

Speaker 103 That might be the weirdest question I got in a long time.

Speaker 103 I mean, that might, and I think that's an honest question. That might be the strangest question I got in a really long time.

Speaker 103 Yeah, as a matter of fact, they have the giant picnic.

Speaker 103 They hold it over in Totoa, I think it is.

Speaker 103 And then they have the

Speaker 103 giant relay race and the giant raffle.

Speaker 103 And then they all get together for the giant breakfast the next morning, and then they go their separate ways. It is true.

Speaker 103 It's a July weekend every year when it happens. Yeah, and then the Rangers in Texas and the New York Rangers have the same thing.
They meet usually in Abilene and have that in August every year.

Speaker 103 Lundquist is particularly close to Eudarvish.

Speaker 103 As a matter of fact, there's a kinship there between the two of them.

Speaker 39 And they did an actual Giants San Francisco Eli Manning

Speaker 39 players from the San Francisco Giants meetup.

Speaker 37 What was the caller's name?

Speaker 59 Do you remember?

Speaker 29 Someone in Warwick, because I saw he came back on.

Speaker 31 The WFN had him on yesterday, and I guess he was not funny and not with it, which is crazy.

Speaker 53 So, all right.

Speaker 89 This is one of those videos.

Speaker 39 It's one of those things that's funnier when Francesco is not. Now that he's in on the joke, it's a lot less funny.
I agree. And I like

Speaker 64 Mike Francesco.

Speaker 37 I think

Speaker 37 he's obviously a Titan of sports talk, and he seems like a good dude. Never met him, but I know he's been in the Barcelona New York office a bunch.

Speaker 37 Seems like a great guy, but it is funnier when he's oblivious to the callers trolling. That was the beauty of his show.

Speaker 41 I liked it.

Speaker 42 I thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 67 The only critique I had is

Speaker 62 it was a promo for Eli's show.

Speaker 1 I wish it was just like, they're just like, hey, let's make...

Speaker 1 Long are the days that they just make funny videos just to make funny videos.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But I thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 4 And it's also a very funny, like, full circle.

Speaker 60 10 years.

Speaker 5 Francesa was the best.

Speaker 39 They got to do something with Spider-Man.

Speaker 1 I was listening back to, yeah, I was listening back to the call call of the guy who just kept on calling him Michael. He got so upset.
I like the one.

Speaker 53 Michael, Michael.

Speaker 53 Stop saying Michael.

Speaker 39 The Harambe one is the funniest one of all.

Speaker 19 A gorilla?

Speaker 53 Okay.

Speaker 22 Let's play that one.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 59 A gorilla within the cave with a gorilla.

Speaker 37 It was Deesus' tweet, right? That was like,

Speaker 37 this guy dropped a hard R on gorilla.

Speaker 64 Yeah, I think this was like.

Speaker 28 Mickey Mano, we're talking about Mickey Mano with a triple crown, and the caller's just like, how could he win the the triple crown? He's not a horse.

Speaker 52 And he's like, You waited four hours to say that?

Speaker 92 Can you find the Harambe? Is that not it?

Speaker 59 There was a gorilla

Speaker 105 a Jason Giambi, Mike Francesa meetup would go crazy.

Speaker 34 Oh, yeah, it'd be good.

Speaker 21 Do you have the gorilla? I don't think this is it.

Speaker 37 I also like the one where he just lists

Speaker 37 Jacob DeGrom's run support. Yeah, and he just says numbers for five minutes: zero, one,

Speaker 19 two. This is it.
There it is.

Speaker 106 To Your child in there?

Speaker 106 You're going to have people who are going to say, wait a second, I'm worried about the gorilla?

Speaker 106 Your kids in there basically maybe seconds from having his head crushed? We live in a world now where you are going to be more concerned with the gorilla than you are the little boy.

Speaker 106 What's wrong with you people?

Speaker 106 You're thinking about me. He fell into an area where he's in there with a gorilla who is dragging him around that habitat.
And you're telling me you're worried about the gorilla's welfare.

Speaker 66 That's great, radio.

Speaker 5 Shout out, Funhouse.

Speaker 49 He was all

Speaker 53 with you, people.

Speaker 51 You could find the funniest fucking things.

Speaker 100 Oh, man.

Speaker 64 Good job, Hank. Nice job, Hank.

Speaker 11 Great riffin.

Speaker 73 Great.

Speaker 64 Awesome.

Speaker 37 Cool thrones. It's great to have you back.

Speaker 53 Practical. Yeah, great work.

Speaker 11 Your backs from Sunday.

Speaker 64 Hardest working man in showbiz.

Speaker 38 That's what we do here.

Speaker 19 Oh, you know, bits and shticks and jokes.

Speaker 1 Do you know, do you know when

Speaker 48 you're putting up like a Tony Snell?

Speaker 53 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 92 I didn't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you walked away on Sunday's episode being like, nailed it.

Speaker 39 I'm like,

Speaker 39 I'm awake.

Speaker 107 It was the moment I had it was when I said

Speaker 70 someone needs to throw a pocket pussy on NBA, and I go, hey, Cossack, here.

Speaker 19 You go, no, that was a pocket pussy.

Speaker 53 I was like, we don't got him. Yeah.
There's nothing on here. Physically.

Speaker 38 Mentally, where were you?

Speaker 39 Rufus to soul still. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You essentially were like in a coma, and we went to see you last right.

Speaker 11 That wasn't my worst.

Speaker 39 That was like a, but it was, it was definitely snell. It was, it was snell stabs.

Speaker 100 Snell stabs.

Speaker 37 There's really no difference between

Speaker 37 Mincy on Monday after a big show.

Speaker 39 No, it's Sunday.

Speaker 39 And this is a problem, and this is, you know,

Speaker 39 summer's coming to an end.

Speaker 39 Because I don't really do it in the regular season. I'm old now, and Saturday is like Saturday.
The regular season.

Speaker 53 I did a double dose of Rufus DeSolo.

Speaker 11 I like that. Like Saturday, going out on a Saturday.

Speaker 39 I can no longer do it.

Speaker 39 I'll be hungover Monday like I've been having two-day hangovers this summer yeah

Speaker 90 but it is summer and it was the perfect last weekend was the perfect Chicago like events going on weather it just everything you went to a Rufus to Soul concert and then you went to another Rufus to Soul concert you chased it with a Rufus to Soul concert soling it up

Speaker 39 that's that's a tough that's a tough Saturday for any you yeah was that at Lala it was at Lala and then at a club at rain

Speaker 83 after show.

Speaker 53 You just followed Rufus de Soul around him?

Speaker 39 Yeah, I met him.

Speaker 39 I met Dew of Rufus de Soul.

Speaker 37 I might do that during Riot Fest this year. Riot Fest looks awesome.

Speaker 39 Shout out to John. They want to come on.

Speaker 96 Great guys. All right.

Speaker 82 Love it.

Speaker 102 Okay, PFT, your hot seat.

Speaker 19 I can't follow it.

Speaker 55 I can't follow. Tough to follow.

Speaker 37 Speaking of zoos and deaths and zoos, my first hot seat is a zoo in Denmark. There's a zoo in Denmark that's running low on food for some of their animals.

Speaker 37 So they're asking people at home, if you have any pets that you're looking to get rid of, bring them in and we can euthanize them and feed them to our animals.

Speaker 34 So what the heck?

Speaker 73 It says, fuck.

Speaker 37 If you have a healthy animal that has to leave here for various reasons, that you have to leave.

Speaker 73 Healthy?

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Because you can't feed like a disease.

Speaker 39 Yeah, but like, oh, let me sacrifice my healthy animal.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Feel free to donate it to us. The animals are gently euthanized by training staff and are afterwards used as fodder.

Speaker 37 That way, nothing goes to waste and we ensure natural behavior, nutrition, and well-being for predators. The zoo says it accepts donated rabbits, guinea pigs, and chickens.

Speaker 67 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 37 Yeah, on weekdays between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m.
There's a death drop-off zone that you have to hit between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m., but no more than four at a time.

Speaker 1 Our brains immediately went to dogs and cats.

Speaker 4 Dogs and cats, yeah. And that's not what the case is.

Speaker 40 That's obviously, but yeah, that's still fucked up.

Speaker 37 But if you have a, if you have a rabbit, do they accept turtles' memes?

Speaker 11 How is Mr. Perrick?

Speaker 70 Give us an update on Mr. Perrot.

Speaker 37 Haven't heard from Mr. Perrot in a while.

Speaker 21 I got a turtle that hibernates.

Speaker 1 So he doesn't pick games?

Speaker 95 He's going to. We're going to make him pick games.

Speaker 53 Should we...

Speaker 53 I don't want to put more work on your schedule, but should we get a rabbit?

Speaker 53 Also pick games?

Speaker 107 If you don't like it, we can take it to the tortoise and a hare on every game would be interesting.

Speaker 19 You can handle a rabbit?

Speaker 97 I think rabbits are much, much more difficult to keep alive.

Speaker 39 Maybe another turtle so that Mr. Pear can chill.
That turtle can pick games.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 39 And a rabbit.

Speaker 69 We need something out of our animals.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if it's getting a rabbit, waking Mr.

Speaker 65 Pear up, maybe getting Mr.

Speaker 1 Pear on some TRT.

Speaker 80 I don't know.

Speaker 1 We got to do it.

Speaker 109 Mr. Pear is going to pick every single football game this fall.

Speaker 105 Mr.

Speaker 65 Pear is a chick, too.

Speaker 59 I just remembered that fact.

Speaker 21 So does Mr.

Speaker 37 Pear have a better record on certain games, like Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night?

Speaker 109 I think Thursday night.

Speaker 95 He went 500 for March Madness.

Speaker 37 Can we sort the the data though on

Speaker 53 coin?

Speaker 37 Can you do that? Can we sort the data on what night of the week he was best on? Yeah. Because he's telling us.
He's telling us where his sweet spot is.

Speaker 9 We need some picks.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 69 And you might have to get a rabbit.

Speaker 97 The rabbit, there's no, we can't get a rat.

Speaker 55 Why?

Speaker 97 Keeping a rabbit alive and healthy requires significant time, effort, commitment, similar to owning a dog or a cat.

Speaker 50 Reading is not easy.

Speaker 24 Okay.

Speaker 28 do this we can't do that to this rabbit why does it why don't we just give it billy what if we get a turtle and call it rabbit another turtle and call it rabbit okay that's get a lobster or does mr pair need a friend mr pair could could use probably i feel like another another tortoise

Speaker 37 what if we just get a rabbit and let the rabbit live inside vanny woodhead that's the rabbit house that rabbit would die so quickly

Speaker 29 probably get out oh my god memes you can't sleep that

Speaker 5 memes just sent a face swap

Speaker 14 of hate on Tony Snell.

Speaker 100 Nope.

Speaker 53 You can't do that, memes.

Speaker 39 Nope.

Speaker 22 Across the lawn.

Speaker 37 Memes, that's like day, that's day one memes stuff right there.

Speaker 65 All right, sweet.

Speaker 40 Denmark's fucked up.

Speaker 107 We need a rabbit.

Speaker 24 Yep. Okay, that's what we got.

Speaker 97 A turtle named rabbit.

Speaker 22 A turtle named rabbit.

Speaker 107 Any animal named rabbit.

Speaker 37 Does anybody

Speaker 37 that works here have a rabbit already?

Speaker 37 Somebody's got to have a rabbit.

Speaker 64 Like for the the kids.

Speaker 85 See a rabbit.

Speaker 39 Cindy Wells probably has a couple rabbits.

Speaker 37 Cindy Wells probably does have a rabbit.

Speaker 61 Oh, Brandon brought a rabbit on Jack like a month and a half ago.

Speaker 91 He has a rabbit.

Speaker 37 Brandon does? Yeah. We should just use his rabbit.

Speaker 4 But he lives in Wisconsin.

Speaker 37 Yeah, but he could film it at his house.

Speaker 94 He could, but I want to see the turtle.

Speaker 53 I want to see the rabbit.

Speaker 39 I'm going to go to Brandon's house, film the videos. Yes.
And then, all right.

Speaker 37 Or what if, yeah, memes could do that. What if that was our college football?

Speaker 20 Oh. For Brandon.

Speaker 4 But Brandon does have a sneaky sneaky zoo going on.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got a rabbit.

Speaker 4 He's got two birds.

Speaker 110 He's got some gerbils.

Speaker 1 Just basically anything

Speaker 1 that is in a video for like a second here just goes to Brandon's house.

Speaker 37 He's got

Speaker 37 that one fish in his lake? Yep. Yep.

Speaker 72 Yep. Well, he doesn't even catch it.

Speaker 1 It's just on a leash. Yeah.

Speaker 39 I feel like when you're in country, you won't even consider that having animals. You're like, yeah, I only have a rabbit.
Two gerbils and a dog. I don't really have animals.

Speaker 37 I do have a ton of rabbits that live right outside my house.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, the street rabbits are real.

Speaker 1 I'm always scared that a street rabbit's going to run into my garage late at night because when you get into the alley, like they see the lights and they'll just run in front of your car, zigzagging.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 33 And I'll open my garage door. What do I do then?

Speaker 53 I don't know.

Speaker 64 Like, I then get out of there. Oh, that's your rabbit now.

Speaker 50 I've come close a couple times.

Speaker 77 That's you. You have to keep that rabbit.

Speaker 53 I think those rabbits are not.

Speaker 10 I mean, they're rabies.

Speaker 12 Well, no, they just live in the alley.

Speaker 53 They can't be like super clean.

Speaker 64 They're fucking badass rabbits.

Speaker 37 Like the rabbits that I have outside my house will stare down Blake and not move. Just be like, come get some, bro.

Speaker 33 Well, and they survive like,

Speaker 16 you know, Agent Orange

Speaker 46 chemical warfare once a month when they nuke the alleys for the rats.

Speaker 53 So those rabbits are legit.

Speaker 37 Okay. My other hot seat is the dildo thrower, the first dildo thrower who has been apprehended.

Speaker 37 His name is Delbert, which is an A-plus name for a dildo thrower. Awesome name.
So he got arrested on Saturday. He was the one that threw the dildo during the Valkyrie's Atlanta dream game.

Speaker 37 And he's 23 years old. This guy, he faces charges of disorderly conduct, public indecency/slash indecent exposure, and criminal trespass.

Speaker 37 So they're throwing the book at him. They're trying to make an example out of Delbert.

Speaker 37 So actually, Arian brought up a pretty good point yesterday. We were saying that it might be the WNBA that's engineered this.

Speaker 37 He's like, this is actually a sign. It's a bellwether that the WNBA is doing well, that you have fans that are throwing dildo.

Speaker 37 The more toxic your fan bases get, the healthier your sport as a whole becomes.

Speaker 53 All this stuff.

Speaker 1 All the discourse, everything. Yeah.

Speaker 53 The hate.

Speaker 1 That was my whole point with the Angel Reese

Speaker 1 Caitlin Clark when people get upset about it and make it this crazy thing. It's like, this is good.

Speaker 37 This is rivalry. You wouldn't go out there and spend $39 or $40 on a neon green dildo and throw it onto a court if nobody was going to see it.

Speaker 99 Correct.

Speaker 37 It's a tree falling in the Ford situation.

Speaker 37 My cool throne is death.

Speaker 37 Cool throne, death. Because Mike McDaniels in a press conference yesterday said that today's a great day because we're one day closer to death.
I saw that.

Speaker 37 Do you think things are going well with the Miami Dolphins right now?

Speaker 111 Bad vibes.

Speaker 82 Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 37 What was his message behind it? What was his reasoning? Can we play the clip?

Speaker 37 Yeah, bad vibes. Bad, bad vibes.

Speaker 78 We're going to do a preview with Kevin Clark in a minute, and I think we talked about that bad vibe.

Speaker 37 I guess

Speaker 37 if you're a Christian man, being one day closer to heaven is not a bad thing, right? Yeah.

Speaker 46 He's accepted it.

Speaker 39 That's a bizarre way to phrase that, though.

Speaker 29 Yeah, that doesn't say like confidence in your quarterback.

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 39 Like, you're looking forward to, you'd rather be dead. It's basically like, I'm looking forward to death.
Right. Like, I had to go through practice today, but,

Speaker 39 you know, on the flip side, I might die sooner.

Speaker 16 Zach Taylor, like, Sean McDermott, Andy Reid, they wake up and they're like, thank God I'm alive so I get to coach this guy again.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 53 Okay, we'll play the clip.

Speaker 39 You should stand corrected. Good morning.

Speaker 75 False. Great morning.
Let's go.

Speaker 93 Oh.

Speaker 71 What makes this one great?

Speaker 39 Because we're another day closer to death.

Speaker 24 Oh.

Speaker 1 So he actually is taking the

Speaker 29 approach of he's ready to die.

Speaker 37 Ready to die. Not afraid to die.
Yeah.

Speaker 108 Death would be better than

Speaker 100 something like Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 39 He didn't think about what he was going to say until one second before he said it. Yeah.
Yeah. And then he probably finished and was like,

Speaker 37 I think maybe the last conversation he had was with Tyreek before he went out there. And then that was the first question he got from the reporters.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 110 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 31 My hot seat, and we are going to talk a little bit about this in a different way with Kevin Clark, but my hot seat is Brian Schottenheimer for the Dallas Cowboys because he has shown up to a press conference with a backwards visor.

Speaker 78 Colin Coward is not happy. He said he didn't get the memo on how head coaches are supposed to dress.

Speaker 29 He bumped them down four wins.

Speaker 4 They're a two-win team now in Coward's analytics.

Speaker 37 They're going to win more than two games. But the backwards visor is concerning.

Speaker 67 It's a bad look.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 37 That's like I just got off the golf course and I'm hammered.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's also like he doesn't fully understand that he's the head coach yet.

Speaker 4 He thinks it's maybe just like he's getting pranked.

Speaker 37 Maybe, maybe he's trying to do like a distraction thing. Maybe he's doing a little Phil Jackson, make the conversation about the coach instead of about the player.

Speaker 37 I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to wear a visor backwards.
I know that people are going to talk about it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the visor backwards doesn't like the backwards hat does play in certain circumstances.

Speaker 38 I don't know if the backward visor has ever played.

Speaker 19 It's a coordinator move.

Speaker 112 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Yeah, he's still stuck in coordinator.

Speaker 1 My other hot seat is

Speaker 4 myself and everyone in this room.

Speaker 1 And maybe, maybe, maybe someone can explain it to me. But did you guys see the

Speaker 29 woman who was hired by ESPN, Katie Feeney?

Speaker 59 Who did that?

Speaker 37 So she used to work for the football team

Speaker 53 for a while.

Speaker 37 So she was in charge of doing their channels.

Speaker 53 So you know her stuff.

Speaker 1 She's a lifestyle creator.

Speaker 90 Yep.

Speaker 5 But I saw this hire and I was like, I'm sure, you know, hopefully she has all the success in the world, but didn't know who she was at all.

Speaker 19 I still

Speaker 39 seen her videos with she did stuff for the commanders.

Speaker 78 People are mad online.

Speaker 39 I don't know. And Penn State.

Speaker 40 I mean, getting mad about this is weird.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 29 Because she's going to probably do content that you, if you're mad about this, you you probably will never see her content.

Speaker 39 I think they're she's a work for football teams. Right.
Like she's been doing sports.

Speaker 4 I was more like, shit, should I know who this is? I don't know.

Speaker 61 No.

Speaker 37 No, she's been like kind of behind the scenes, but she, yeah, I guess she gets results. Listen, if you can do social media and get numbers for Sam Howell's Washington Commanders.

Speaker 53 Well, that's actually... Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 37 Then you're probably doing something right.

Speaker 37 I saw a lot of people getting mad because they're upset that ESPN is going towards this type of content instead of their traditional intelligent content, such as having Shannon Sharp and Steve Day Smith scream at each other for four hours.

Speaker 37 I don't think it's going to take away from that. You're still going to get that at ESPN.

Speaker 9 I do like the people who are like, bring back

Speaker 72 traditional sports center.

Speaker 16 Obviously, I love traditional sports center. It just, how would it work when you can get every single highlight instantly?

Speaker 37 Bring back the world that that was in.

Speaker 39 Shit and watch the top 10 by scrolling Instagram. You're right.

Speaker 40 Like when someone hits a home run, you see it within four seconds.

Speaker 38 Kyle Schwarber at NLMBP, maybe.

Speaker 37 Good point. So many.

Speaker 37 That's a good point, and it's directly related to this conversation.

Speaker 39 It is crazy.

Speaker 39 I wasn't surprised by it. Like, she's been, you know, it's not that crazy of a hire.
It's more crazy to me that, you know, talking 10 years ago, 15 years ago, that ESPN.

Speaker 39 has shifted towards us. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. And not the opposite.

Speaker 39 Like, that is just crazy when you think about, you know, 10 years ago. Where we are, yeah.
Look at Barstool, look at ESPN.

Speaker 39 In 10 years, ESPN is going to be doing moves that like Barstool would do in hiring people in that world and not like traditional sports.

Speaker 75 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 31 No, it's a good point because I, like I said, I was like, I don't, I don't care. I'm happy for anyone to get a job in a very tough business, but I just didn't know who it was.

Speaker 46 I was like, should I?

Speaker 22 Did I miss this?

Speaker 37 I did not. I was not like super familiar, but I knew that she, I'd seen some of her stuff before.

Speaker 85 Got it.

Speaker 37 So, but I don't know what she's going to be doing. Like, when ESPN puts out a press release saying, we're hiring somebody to do lifestyle content for you.

Speaker 39 Yeah, they had to have known that press release is going to, like, having

Speaker 39 Shetra tweet that out was crazy. Lifestyle content.

Speaker 11 That's also why.

Speaker 39 People are waiting for like trade deadline and like NFL news. And it's like, what?

Speaker 1 That's also the funny part of it to me because my reaction was, I don't know who this is.

Speaker 31 I'm not going to get upset about someone I don't know who it is.

Speaker 78 Whereas a lot of people are like, I don't know who this is, and now I'm upset.

Speaker 93 Like, what?

Speaker 4 You have no idea. She could have great content.

Speaker 29 You have no fucking idea.

Speaker 94 We'll see.

Speaker 39 And the internet's free. And And the internet's free.
Don't follow. Yeah.
Don't like it. Don't watch it.

Speaker 5 Don't go on TikTok.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is college football fans because we have our first coaches poll out now.

Speaker 78 Yep.

Speaker 57 That's great because people can talk about how they've been left out, where they might be.

Speaker 5 We have Texas one, Ohio State two.

Speaker 78 That will be week one in Columbus.

Speaker 1 Penn State three, Georgia, four, Notre Dame, five.

Speaker 63 Stack top 25.

Speaker 19 Illinois 12, by the way. A lot of great.

Speaker 1 Arizona State 11.

Speaker 19 Those are some notable ones.

Speaker 37 A lot of great logos on that top 25 right there.

Speaker 29 Yeah, SMU, Kansas State, Indiana, 19.

Speaker 37 LSU, make or break year for Kelly.

Speaker 29 I'm excited.

Speaker 5 I'm very excited for college football.

Speaker 37 People are saying JMU might be in the college football playoff this year.

Speaker 34 There you go.

Speaker 1 All right, and then also my cool throne is our former colleague Mantis because he finally completed his 100 free throws in a row, which was an insane stream.

Speaker 65 So Mantis did this stream.

Speaker 39 He's done it before a couple of years ago.

Speaker 53 He didn't finish it.

Speaker 97 He didn't complete it. This was the first time he actually did it.

Speaker 33 That he actually completed it.

Speaker 42 So

Speaker 9 the rule was he has to hit the 100th free throw blindfolded.

Speaker 1 The 100 free throws aside, he shot 6,000 free throws.

Speaker 4 He was shooting 95% from the line.

Speaker 19 Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 53 It's insane.

Speaker 37 One of the best moments was when we brought him in as a ringer for our free throw stream, and Pat Bev was there and just like, what's going on right now?

Speaker 19 Yeah. And he's just wet.

Speaker 37 What up, Twitter?

Speaker 66 Zach, you got some hot seat cool thrones?

Speaker 77 I do, yes, sir. My hot seat today is the River City Mall in San Antonio, Texas.

Speaker 77 There was an injustice served. Duke Dennis was arrested unrightfully.
Who's that? A gentleman on the internet.

Speaker 53 AMP.

Speaker 77 AMP, in any means possible. You guys familiar? No.
Yeah. Internet collaboration.

Speaker 37 I am, but Hank's not, so you should explain who he is to help me. I can do that.

Speaker 77 Duke Dennis would be, I would say, one of

Speaker 77 professional cool guy, if we're going to go in layman's terms, also a fantastic streamer. Okay, there it is.

Speaker 77 There was an injustice service. He was just trying to play hide-and-seek with the boys out at the mall, and he was arrested for playing hide-and-seek with the boy.

Speaker 94 For playing hide and seek? Yes.

Speaker 77 He may have, like, there's conflicting reports that maybe he tried to flee arrest, but I chopped that up to him being, like, in hide-and-seek mode still.

Speaker 77 Like, I don't think he was trying to evade police.

Speaker 37 He thought it might be, like, some stream snipers dressed up as the cops.

Speaker 77 He was just in that mode. Yeah.
And I just think it was an injustice. Can we,

Speaker 40 I'm going to throw out an idea.

Speaker 29 I would love to do it. Maybe next year, Grit Week.

Speaker 8 I would love to do the.

Speaker 1 You ever see those trainings where you have to hide from SWAT team or the police and they use real humans for trainings? No.

Speaker 11 Imagine us doing that.

Speaker 37 It'd be so sad. Like practicing hiding from a SWAT team? Yeah.

Speaker 40 Yeah. Like a certain amount of time to hide.

Speaker 39 We're going to do for the office.

Speaker 24 What were we going to do?

Speaker 39 We had one of our security guards was like a copper or a higher cop. We were going to get SWAT to come in for.
And they were going to do a training. No, they were going to do a training.

Speaker 39 And we were like, we should like, you know, they were asking us if we were cool with it. I mean, McCarthy were like, yeah.
And they're like, can we just not tell people in our office? He's like, no.

Speaker 39 And they're like, yeah, you can't do that. We were like, it would be so funny to actually.

Speaker 11 We say, can you not tell?

Speaker 92 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 53 That idea of the footage. Yeah.

Speaker 39 People freaking out just to see what the simulation happens. But yeah, they were like, absolutely not.
But

Speaker 39 it would have been...

Speaker 38 Very funny. Very funny.

Speaker 2 All right, so yeah, I want to play hide and seek professionally as a show.

Speaker 37 Was he just going to hide? Was he being really good at hide and and seek? Is he like an excellent hide and seek player?

Speaker 77 A big guy, got some height on him. I don't know if he's picking the best spots, but you got to be at least putting it all on the line to get arrested playing hide and seek.
Yeah. So he was

Speaker 77 just going all out there.

Speaker 37 He'd like to play hide and seek. Was he hiding too good and they thought it was a missing person and then they found him?

Speaker 77 I would have loved that. I don't think that is the case.
I think they tried to spin it into a disturbance situation, but

Speaker 77 you can't get too rowdy playing hide and seek. You're trying to be quiet.
You're trying to be coy.

Speaker 77 Do you guys, how do you guys think you would fare in like a bounty hunter hide and seek situation? I think I'd be pretty good at it.

Speaker 5 I want to say I'd be good.

Speaker 4 I feel like I would go in with a great plan, being like, holy shit, they'll never get me. I think I would get caught.

Speaker 39 Yeah, I think it depends on the depends on the setting. It's like tennis.
If it's in a mall or if it's like outside in the woods,

Speaker 39 it would depend on the setting, I think.

Speaker 41 Like tennis. Yeah.

Speaker 53 Right. Well, yeah, clay, grass.

Speaker 52 Yeah, no, you were not.

Speaker 39 You've got good on clay. You can't, you know, some people can't play good on grass.

Speaker 37 Zach, are you saying like in a actual like bounty hunter is trying to find you somewhere in the country situation or just in hide and seek in general?

Speaker 77 No, yeah, just a bounty hunter leading the hide and seek, not in like a Euro-wanted man situation, but I kind of like that too.

Speaker 77 If you want to, should we just like, so you're saying commit crimes and then see who can go on the run the longest?

Speaker 34 Well, just see, you don't have to commit the crime.

Speaker 37 You can do a like simulate committing a crime and then simulate the bounty hunt.

Speaker 1 We're recognizable.

Speaker 71 Yeah, but the beauty of having long hair is in other countries.

Speaker 39 You can transform.

Speaker 37 How are you going to get to the other country?

Speaker 39 I don't know. I just watched Batman Begins last night and he just

Speaker 39 honestly,

Speaker 39 when he just decides to leave, he just starts running. It's very funny.
Yeah. What if I just, you know?

Speaker 23 Just start running and never turn back.

Speaker 97 What do you say, Max? How do you transform?

Speaker 97 Cut the hair.

Speaker 37 Maybe, maybe cut it real short. I think people

Speaker 42 shouldn't know it's you.

Speaker 39 If you've got a fake beard, you'd be unrecognizable.

Speaker 37 Unrecognizable.

Speaker 70 Jacked up.

Speaker 37 I get strong. I would wear shoes with like six inch lifts.
And actually,

Speaker 97 if you shaved your face, no one would know who you are.

Speaker 39 If I shaved my face and grew out my hair.

Speaker 1 These are things that take a long time.

Speaker 26 That's actually true, though.

Speaker 97 If I were to shave my face and cut my hair, you guys would have no idea.

Speaker 37 Yeah, but you'd be arrested just based on your look. People would be like, I don't know what that guy's up to.

Speaker 67 Why is he talking with his hands?

Speaker 66 He must be Italian.

Speaker 37 Put him in prison.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should try to figure out a way to do it. I'd like to do it.

Speaker 78 It'd be a fun video. Yes, sir.

Speaker 79 I'll try to find some bounty hunters. All right.

Speaker 53 And then your cool throne?

Speaker 77 My cool throne today,

Speaker 77 voted on by roughly 1,100 of his peers, Baker Mayfield has made it to number 50 spot on the NFL top 100 list. Let's go.

Speaker 77 After not being on the list, so math tells me next year he's number one.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 37 That's true.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 37 If he keeps improving.

Speaker 40 I believe so. Are we worried about his hand?

Speaker 77 Hand contusion, but he's back at practice today.

Speaker 107 He's a dog. Who signed.

Speaker 29 Who'd you sign?

Speaker 77 I know that we

Speaker 77 took Tay Bridgewater out for a workout.

Speaker 38 Oh, Tay Bridgewater. Tyrod Bridgewater.

Speaker 77 And then also, honorable mention there, top 10 quarterback in Madden as well for Baker. So a little bit of a great list week for him.

Speaker 53 Okay, that is good.

Speaker 37 Who are the top 10 quarterbacks in Madden?

Speaker 77 So the top 10 quarterbacks in Madden are number one spot, Josh Allen, number two, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, and then Jaden Daniels rounds it off at 10.

Speaker 77 Okay.

Speaker 12 Okay. A little different than Max.
Noted.

Speaker 55 Noted.

Speaker 100 Do I owe myself?

Speaker 97 No, this one is according to coaches, executives, and stuff.

Speaker 39 No. He's got to get traded.

Speaker 53 Did that, what?

Speaker 39 Oh, you're talking about Jaden? Yeah.

Speaker 45 I think you just gave it to him, didn't you?

Speaker 37 Did I actually give him my car? Yeah. How did that clip turn out? Because I thought when I walked away from it, I thought maybe I don't owe him my car.
No, I think you do.

Speaker 42 Well, but you also could owe Max your car.

Speaker 97 We may need to buy another LGBTQ.

Speaker 39 Do we want to talk about it or do we not want to jinx it? What? PFT said something very scary to me this morning. What'd he say?

Speaker 37 It's his preemptive hot seat. Yes.

Speaker 83 We should talk about it.

Speaker 37 All right, so Hank is doing a great job being CEO of golf operations for PFT Enterprises. He's been all on me, begging me to stop working and to start playing more golf, which is his

Speaker 39 week away. Yeah.
Week away.

Speaker 37 So we're going to go out. We're grinding today.
I'm going to grind all week on the course.

Speaker 37 We're going to make a trip to Harborside Golf Course this afternoon. Yep, Harborside.
It's about 30 minutes away, would you say? Maybe an hour and

Speaker 37 30 minutes, no traffic. Highway driving.
I forgot that I was going to have to go on the highway when I left to come into work this morning. So I brought the El Camino in.

Speaker 37 It's going to be a test. It's going to be, I put it 65% chance I get there.

Speaker 73 65% chance I get to go get it.

Speaker 53 Jay, why don't you go with Hank?

Speaker 37 I kind of want to embrace the

Speaker 26 Shane's going to have to go.

Speaker 37 It's a quest.

Speaker 92 Shane's going to have to go.

Speaker 39 I'll drive behind you.

Speaker 37 It's a quest. I'll drive behind you.
I might have to stop for gas twice on the way to get there.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Listen, if it breaks down on the way, I will call a tow truck and I will have them just pick it up and drive it to Ashburn, Virginia. And leave it with a note on it being like, here's your car, Jaden.

Speaker 18 Have fun.

Speaker 46 Oh, man,

Speaker 22 that's nerve-wracking.

Speaker 34 Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 5 That's that's it. That's exciting.

Speaker 37 I know. I'm actually pumped about it.

Speaker 28 That was your cool throne, right?

Speaker 46 Yes, sir. Okay.

Speaker 46 All right.

Speaker 101 Good hot seat cool throne, boys.

Speaker 53 That was great.

Speaker 34 Raid hire. Hank's so back.

Speaker 37 We're firing.

Speaker 53 So back.

Speaker 10 All right, we're going to do our Mount Rush more.

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Speaker 58 Okay.

Speaker 108 Mount Rush, more time.

Speaker 12 Mount Rush more of skills we wish we learned

Speaker 43 when we were younger.

Speaker 10 Skills we wish we learned when we were younger.

Speaker 5 Do we need to talk at all about Queen Latifah?

Speaker 26 Queen Latifa is a great pick.

Speaker 5 I don't know if that was a great pick.

Speaker 95 Racism is alive and well.

Speaker 80 Okay, you're going to go that card.

Speaker 83 Wow.

Speaker 24 Okay.

Speaker 68 No, Queen Latifa is a great pick.

Speaker 70 Great. It's a funny pick.

Speaker 68 A great pick?

Speaker 73 I thought.

Speaker 39 Because you loved her work in

Speaker 75 barbershop.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 96 Nailed it.

Speaker 53 Okay.

Speaker 37 It was a very. The closest Mount Rushmore of the season.

Speaker 38 Yeah, it was crazy. It was what, like 0.3%

Speaker 37 separated first from second? Yes.

Speaker 39 Quad box was the right pick. Quest

Speaker 39 was the fun pick.

Speaker 39 And Big Cat got in my head. He was like, just be fun.
And Quests are fun. But if I was thinking in a bubble, a vacuum, Quad Box was the smarter smarter pick.

Speaker 53 That's right.

Speaker 81 Some of these, if we switched Quavo with Quad Box, we would have won easily.

Speaker 83 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 101 But you also didn't have Quad Box on your list.

Speaker 70 You absolutely had. Oh, you did?

Speaker 53 I thought you

Speaker 53 did and pick it first, potentially.

Speaker 37 That was between Quad Box and Quest at the end. Yeah.

Speaker 39 That's what PFT was like, yeah, I like the two choices.

Speaker 1 But you got to go with what you like.

Speaker 87 Yeah. No, I know.
I know. Camp Pan.

Speaker 39 Quests are fun.

Speaker 66 Quests are fun.

Speaker 39 But yeah, whatever.

Speaker 37 10 years from now, people are going to look back at that pick, underappreciate it at the moment. It's going going to be like Tom Brady.
Yep. Six-round pick.
Hell yeah. Greatest of all time.
All right.

Speaker 84 So,

Speaker 12 who's up first?

Speaker 38 We are up first. Okay.

Speaker 71 And I believe Big Cat and Zach took the lead in Rushmore.

Speaker 10 Okay, but it's all within like one point.

Speaker 24 Yep, one, one, one.

Speaker 96 Okay.

Speaker 39 We're down two, down one.

Speaker 109 Down two from first, one from second.

Speaker 31 Skills you wish you learned when you were younger.

Speaker 96 Correct. Yes.

Speaker 68 Okay.

Speaker 97 We have the one, one. Yes.
We are going to go with money management.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 53 Good pick.

Speaker 97 Still don't know how to do it.

Speaker 67 Put in your mattress.

Speaker 1 I assume this is. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 37 High-yield EPTAs. It's hard.

Speaker 97 You don't know what that means.

Speaker 39 No.

Speaker 97 Wouldn't it be nice

Speaker 97 if you knew that at a young age?

Speaker 37 If you start a Ponzi scheme, that's great money management.

Speaker 37 Not if you join one, but if you start one.

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 39 And this is definitely me, just bad learner.

Speaker 39 But, like, I don't think learning money management when I was young and had no money, I don't know how much that would have helped me.

Speaker 96 Ah, it would have helped. If that makes sense.

Speaker 53 It would have helped. Yeah.

Speaker 83 It would have probably helped.

Speaker 37 Just get a bunch of mayonnaise jars.

Speaker 97 Because it's everything. It's like budgeting your money.
It's like, it's not just financing your money.

Speaker 39 But then I kind of take the Mike McDaniels method of thinking.

Speaker 39 We're one day closer to death, so whoops, you know, just let it rip. Yeah, let it rip.

Speaker 94 But you also still don't know.

Speaker 37 So like no now that bitcoin max can you break down what you said by it's not budgeting it's financing i said it i said it is budgeting

Speaker 97 like money man i looked up what money man i had to look up what money management means and it's and it's oh we're that far away we're that far away it's all of the encompassing

Speaker 37 budgeting it's financing unclear what it means which part is it the was it the money or the man i think it's probably the management part i think you know what money is i know what money means it's a management part do you know what a baseball manager does what it what what's confusing about it?

Speaker 97 It's the process of planning, direct,

Speaker 97 directing, and controlling financial activities such as budgeting, saving, investing, and spending.

Speaker 53 I wish I knew it.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 87 Do you know what I mean? I wish I knew it better.

Speaker 97 I know what it is. I wish I had a better skill of it.

Speaker 37 When you break down your budget, what do you spend too much money on?

Speaker 53 Food.

Speaker 53 Yeah,

Speaker 19 food and drink.

Speaker 97 Budgeting off vibes is always a bad you get in a bad spot yeah it's where there are like things out there where you can like go back and see your butt your budget and that's bad yeah that's bad when you see that yeah

Speaker 77 do we think if you learn to budget too early you're like uh boxing yourself out on like if you're learning learning to save money too early you're missing life experiences on like the stupid things you would have done with your money

Speaker 39 you are yeah it can be the smart thing to do but it's not always the funnest thing to do right sometimes not having money makes you makes you you know want money that much more. Oh,

Speaker 40 you're on your Gary Vee shit right now.

Speaker 52 Go off, King.

Speaker 73 I mean, it's,

Speaker 39 I don't know how much.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 92 start the TikTok clip right now.

Speaker 58 Go.

Speaker 34 Well said. Everyone.

Speaker 14 Well, no, I don't.

Speaker 53 I don't want to.

Speaker 53 This is going to get cut.

Speaker 92 It's probably going to have to get cut.

Speaker 53 Oh, no. What?

Speaker 39 When you're gambling and you get down

Speaker 39 and you lose a lot of money, it makes you want to get money back that much more. Whereas if you save it, if you save it and you're responsible, then maybe you're not as hungry.

Speaker 37 Yeah. Every morning I wake up, I light $1,000 on fire just to make myself go out and earn it.
That's what you have to do to be successful.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 39 You got to feel the pain. Yeah.
And then it just feels that much better when you rise up.

Speaker 5 Every morning I wake up and I suffocate a small animal watching their last dying breath.

Speaker 4 That makes me say, hey, you know what?

Speaker 37 You do have to post more on Instagram today.

Speaker 39 I walk my dog to the zoo and say goodbye.

Speaker 59 All right.

Speaker 60 Good pick.

Speaker 4 But it's very funny that you don't know money.

Speaker 28 You have to Google money management.

Speaker 53 That's exactly what I'm doing.

Speaker 110 That's exactly where I'm at. Yeah.

Speaker 53 Okay. That's basically it for you.

Speaker 37 Okay. That's us? Yeah.

Speaker 37 All right, Hank. I'm going to take.
All you.

Speaker 39 You got it. All right.

Speaker 37 I got this. Big time.

Speaker 37 1-1 for us.

Speaker 37 I'm going to go with fixing cars.

Speaker 37 We had it. Knowing what to do, how to fix a car.
Not just for my personal... This could also be foreshadowing for my drive later on today.

Speaker 37 But it's something that, like, some people that grow up in families that fix cars. Your dad teaches you how to fix a car.
It becomes second nature to you. You can figure out what's going wrong.

Speaker 37 The five things that you can

Speaker 37 try to manage on it. I never learned any of that stuff.
I learned how to fix a flat tire, and that's pretty much it. Yeah.
And jumpstart a car.

Speaker 24 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 42 All right. That's a good pick.

Speaker 10 Ours is similar, but a little just not car-specific.

Speaker 32 I think we should go with our first pick's going to be basic handyman work.

Speaker 37 Yep, we got that on the list.

Speaker 53 I really wish I was

Speaker 1 good with my hands and just being able to do shit.

Speaker 11 Man's man. Man's man.

Speaker 43 Never learned it.

Speaker 22 Now, what do we do?

Speaker 22 One?

Speaker 96 I like one.

Speaker 20 Yeah, one is a great pick.

Speaker 108 I feel strongly about one.

Speaker 77 One or 13. I'm in for both.

Speaker 94 And I actually think Hank's going to agree with this.

Speaker 70 Fuck.

Speaker 53 I wish I learned how to golf when I was a kid.

Speaker 83 Yep, when I was on the list.

Speaker 4 I see someone with the golf swing from when they were a kid, and it's like they have the basic tools that they never, they're just always consistent.

Speaker 1 I did not play golf as a child.

Speaker 5 I did not play golf until I was in my like 20s.

Speaker 4 God damn it, do I wish I'd had a golf swing since I was like five years old?

Speaker 37 It would be nice.

Speaker 39 I did a golf camp one summer when I was, you know, kid,

Speaker 39 and I like played well and left the camp and was like, mom, but golf is so boring. Like, I want to play baseball.
Like, I, I never, I'm good with golf. And then now it's all I do.
And it's like, I.

Speaker 45 That's all you think about. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And imagine it because you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 When you see someone who's like, I've been playing since I was a kid, they have they just have a flow to them where it's like they trust their swing because they learned it at such a young age.

Speaker 39 And people that, if they were, if you were ever able to score, like, let's say you were ever able to shoot in the 70s or ever shoot in the 80s, even if you don't play a lot, like I'll play with the guys like, Yeah, I've only played a couple times this year, but they play when they were younger.

Speaker 39 They can go out and shoot in the 80s, they can go out and shoot in the 70s.

Speaker 39 Like, if you've ever been able to shoot a low score, yeah, even if you're not like in form, you can't riding a bike, you can kind of get back there. Whereas like if you're trying to get down,

Speaker 39 it's just a war.

Speaker 1 And here's a message for everyone out there. Guess what?

Speaker 29 Riding a bike overrated when you become adult.

Speaker 101 Whoa. Golf is way more useful.

Speaker 39 Facts.

Speaker 48 Like

Speaker 1 I would trade being able to ride a bike for being able to golf well instantly.

Speaker 2 Obviously, riding a bike as a kid is very fun, but from age,

Speaker 1 what, 16 for the rest of your life, being able to golf better than riding a bike would be awesome.

Speaker 97 Did you know there's a coworker that we have here that has never ridden a bike?

Speaker 39 Oh man. I do.

Speaker 4 Who is this?

Speaker 97 Do you know who it is?

Speaker 39 I don't off the top of my head.

Speaker 10 Someone people would know?

Speaker 69 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 39 Oh, yeah, I do. I do.
I do. Quigs.

Speaker 83 Quigs. Oh, never.

Speaker 59 Never rid a bike.

Speaker 66 Well, he probably doesn't think bikes are real.

Speaker 4 Like, he's got some.

Speaker 97 He said he just, like, never learned as a kid, and he was like, he got to, he got to an age where it's like, you can't learn to ride a bike as.

Speaker 94 No, he needs to just go.

Speaker 40 He needs to have someone close to him go teach him in in a parking lot.

Speaker 97 Like, we were going somewhere this weekend, and I was like, oh, yeah, it's a quick bike ride. And then, like, as I was saying it, I was like, you don't know how to ride a ride, so we'll take an Uber.

Speaker 1 Zach, how do you feel on a bike?

Speaker 77 I feel good on a regular bicycle.

Speaker 19 Okay, all right. Because I was going to say the motorcycle.

Speaker 53 I feel on a motorcycle. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Okay.

Speaker 2 You guys had that as one of your picks?

Speaker 55 Yeah. Yeah.
Yep, we did.

Speaker 37 All right, so it's us again? Yeah. I'm going to go to the top of the list, Hank.
Love it. Cooking.

Speaker 112 Cooking.

Speaker 37 Being able to cook really nice meals for yourself.

Speaker 39 Max just said it. I mean, it goes with his money money management.
My budget, if I looked at it, which I don't because I don't want to be depressed, is the amount of money I spend on food.

Speaker 39 And when you buy groceries, you buy like $60 worth of groceries that last you a week.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 39 Get one or two meals on Uber Eats or Postmeets, $60.

Speaker 11 I've gotten cooking, being able to cook well.

Speaker 39 Like, I can cook sometimes if I have to.

Speaker 57 You think if you could cook well, you would actually cook? Yes.

Speaker 21 I don't.

Speaker 37 The time thing is an issue. Yeah.

Speaker 52 I have waves where

Speaker 37 I get really into cooking and then I run out of time.

Speaker 83 I I would, I would meal prep.

Speaker 40 If you could cook well, you wouldn't be sitting down and being like, I'm going to cook tonight.

Speaker 96 Absolutely.

Speaker 39 It becomes a passionate.

Speaker 37 It does, like, after a long day, it's nice. It can be relaxing.
It can put you in, like, a better mood when you go home.

Speaker 1 I agree with everything you're saying.

Speaker 37 But it's tough to find the time for it.

Speaker 4 No, you think Hank would go down and be like, hey, hey, guys, like, can we wrap up the show early?

Speaker 78 I got a souffle I'm working on tonight.

Speaker 37 I think

Speaker 37 if he had a lady over, I think he might. Maybe, but.

Speaker 39 If I was good at cooking, I would want to cook more.

Speaker 53 Obviously, Obviously, it's like golf.

Speaker 39 It's like anything. If you're good at it, you're like, yeah, I want to do that.

Speaker 78 I still think cooking, like, kind of like the dishes and all that stuff,

Speaker 21 like, there's a part of cooking that just kind of sucks.

Speaker 26 I like the cooking part.

Speaker 39 Cooking saves so much money.

Speaker 37 The cooking part of cooking is great.

Speaker 12 Sometimes it's not even.

Speaker 105 I feel like I look at it.

Speaker 37 Sometimes you got to buy so much shit. I like grilling.

Speaker 53 Grilling is different.

Speaker 92 I love grilling.

Speaker 37 Grilling is different. It's a different sport.
Yeah.

Speaker 53 Totally different. That's been shit.

Speaker 55 Good pick. Thanks, man.
Ben shit.

Speaker 33 All right. You guys got two.

Speaker 4 No, it is a good pick.

Speaker 31 I just was more pushing back on you saying you would cook all the time if you knew how to cook well.

Speaker 18 I don't think that's true.

Speaker 53 In the summer.

Speaker 34 That's grilling. The offseason.

Speaker 39 I do grill a lot.

Speaker 51 Grilling is different.

Speaker 82 Okay.

Speaker 97 We are going to go with playing an instrument.

Speaker 53 Good one.

Speaker 97 Just, you know, I see PFT in here playing the guitar all the time. Yeah.
And I just think about how cool it would be if I learned how to play the guitar.

Speaker 97 And it's one of those things that everyone, like as an adult tries to do. They're like, oh, I'm going to pick this up.

Speaker 102 Can't do it.

Speaker 97 You got to do it when you're a kid or else you're never going to do it.

Speaker 39 Yeah, PFC gave me lessons for like three weeks and I think I learned like four notes.

Speaker 37 You need that age when you're like 12 to 15 where you don't really have that much else going on at your house where you can just like chill in your room and play guitar.

Speaker 37 That's where you really learn.

Speaker 92 What would you do? Guitar or would you go

Speaker 80 or piano?

Speaker 61 Piano would be sick. Yeah.

Speaker 39 Those are the two things that you can, it's very cool to be at a house or a party or show up somewhere and it's there. And if you can sit down and play it, like, it's cool.

Speaker 97 Like, when I was very young, I like, I did like the snare drum in my elementary school band. And then I quickly realized when I got home, it's like, you can't play any.

Speaker 97 There's no songs that you can play on a drum.

Speaker 64 Right. You just make noise.

Speaker 97 So I remember I would like go up to my mom and be like, do you know this song? And it was just like nothing. It was just like sounds.

Speaker 31 But yeah, no, guitar, piano, any instrument.

Speaker 97 Good pick. We had it.

Speaker 109 Third pick.

Speaker 37 We're going to go with social skills.

Speaker 53 Oh, okay, just in general. I thought we agreed on something.

Speaker 67 What social skills?

Speaker 102 I thought we were going to go.

Speaker 94 You said that one.

Speaker 102 No, me, no, that was the funny pick, but.

Speaker 29 Memes, similar to Max having to Google money management, have you at any time Googled social skills?

Speaker 109 I think it's just small talking shit.

Speaker 80 Yeah.

Speaker 91 Right?

Speaker 37 You're not much of a small talker.

Speaker 59 Yeah, you're not a small talker.

Speaker 105 You pointed that one and said, Pickett.

Speaker 38 I pointed at the first one.

Speaker 39 Wait, what was the first one?

Speaker 97 We're not going to say that.

Speaker 105 You literally pointed that one and said, Pickett.

Speaker 97 We agree that we could get that one in the last round.

Speaker 10 But you could have gotten that one in the 20th round.

Speaker 53 No, I think.

Speaker 39 I'm talking to the guys on a podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 53 I think that's a good pick.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 96 Hank? DFT?

Speaker 94 Zach, get ready.

Speaker 53 There's a couple C's.

Speaker 65 Zach, before they go, think 14, think

Speaker 37 Hank, I'm going to go with one of the C's, and then I'm going to go with.

Speaker 39 Well, we have only one, but I like whatever C you like.

Speaker 29 10, 14, and 35.

Speaker 21 Go ahead.

Speaker 37 Okay. I'm going to go

Speaker 62 coding.

Speaker 39 Coding AI.

Speaker 37 Coding AI. Wait.

Speaker 40 Is it coding or coding AI?

Speaker 4 But how would you have learned that younger? The AI?

Speaker 39 I guess coding. Coding.
Coding.

Speaker 60 Coding.

Speaker 39 Like the Zuckerberg AI

Speaker 39 thing is crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Coding, though, in itself, I think, is going out. Like, I think there was a story I read that, like, computer coding is, like,

Speaker 11 done.

Speaker 37 Well, no, people are using AI to help them write code. But still, if you know how to write code, you're pretty much going to have a job for the rest of your life.

Speaker 37 I had a bunch of people that I was friends with that were in the computer sciences departments at some schools, and I was like, this sounds like the most boring shit ever.

Speaker 37 And they hated every minute of learning how to do it, but they will never be unemployed. Yeah.

Speaker 53 Okay.

Speaker 9 Zach, what are we thinking?

Speaker 77 How do you feel about 14?

Speaker 69 14, I like,

Speaker 21 I think we get freaky with it.

Speaker 53 I think we had 10. We had fun with it.
I go

Speaker 53 10 and 35.

Speaker 97 Hold on, social skills.

Speaker 35 Social skills is a funny one.

Speaker 53 Well, I like 14, but hold on.

Speaker 1 Like, the question is, so it would be be appropriate for you to pick it.

Speaker 16 I don't know if I could claim that I could have learned it when I was younger.

Speaker 62 I think.

Speaker 96 I also don't know if that's something you learn social skills.

Speaker 53 You do.

Speaker 54 You can learn them. Yeah.

Speaker 64 I think you just have them. I don't know.

Speaker 53 Everyone's just

Speaker 97 meme's just talking shit in a muted mic back here to you, Hank.

Speaker 71 I said 100%.

Speaker 53 You definitely learn.

Speaker 37 I was quite a kid. Meme, should we hire a social skills coach for you?

Speaker 26 Good.

Speaker 37 It was like hitch.

Speaker 1 What if we go 10 and 14?

Speaker 29 Is Would you 10 and 14?

Speaker 77 Do you think 10 is the most extreme form of that?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think it's...

Speaker 46 Listen, I wish I knew it.

Speaker 64 I wish I learned it.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 53 All right.

Speaker 29 Go 14 first and then 10.

Speaker 77 Okay, so we would like to take with our third pick how to buy Bitcoin.

Speaker 46 It would have been really nice to learn that.

Speaker 39 Oh, but we can't pick coding AI?

Speaker 70 I mean, Bitcoin's been around for 15 years.

Speaker 21 How to buy Bitcoin when you was like eight years old.

Speaker 64 You buy a website and you just buy it.

Speaker 105 This is

Speaker 21 mine. Yeah.

Speaker 53 What?

Speaker 53 This is investing.

Speaker 36 All right, fine.

Speaker 94 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 87 How to buy Bitcoin.

Speaker 39 Well, you picked money management, not investing. Good point.

Speaker 37 Investing is just a small part of money management, Matt.

Speaker 1 If it's not fair because of the AI thing, that's fine. We'll take it off.

Speaker 102 No, you know what?

Speaker 82 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 37 Zach can retract.

Speaker 96 Yeah, you can retract.

Speaker 94 Let's start from the top of the screen.

Speaker 77 You're telling us to. That's on me.

Speaker 37 How to buy Bitcoin.

Speaker 40 All right, we have two funny ones that are probably not going to do well in the graphic if you want us to retract.

Speaker 90 We'll go crazy ones.

Speaker 37 No, I think you guys picked how to buy Bitcoin. I think that's a fine pick.
I don't think that there's anything really terrible about that at all.

Speaker 33 I think you're not being honest.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's going to suck on the graphic.

Speaker 37 No, I thought Max objected unfairly to it by saying that it's money. That's not money management.

Speaker 4 I would have been nice if someone taught you how to buy Bitcoin 15 years ago.

Speaker 70 That is true.

Speaker 60 That would have been really nice.

Speaker 97 That's investing. You didn't pick investing.

Speaker 113 You picked money management.

Speaker 113 That is part of money management.

Speaker 39 No, it's not. Investing is having a lot of money.

Speaker 52 That's like I just said how to have money invested.

Speaker 39 Money management is having money and how to manage it.

Speaker 97 It's the exact same thing of me just saying how to play an instrument and you saying how to play guitar.

Speaker 56 No, that's not. Yes.
No, that's different.

Speaker 102 That's the same thing. No.
No.

Speaker 97 How is that different? It is.

Speaker 52 Also, buying Bitcoin is

Speaker 39 an instrument, and then it would be like if you took

Speaker 39 learning how to play Freebird. That means you imply you already know how to play guitar.

Speaker 102 No. Good point.
Good point.

Speaker 92 Good point.

Speaker 102 You want to learn how to play Freebirds.

Speaker 53 You know how to play guitar.

Speaker 59 You know how to play guitars and you want to learn

Speaker 39 You're someone who wants to learn how to play guitar.

Speaker 37 As the only member of part of my tech who's kind of played the free bird solo, Hank is 100% right.

Speaker 39 There's a huge difference between wanting to learn how to play guitar and then wanting to learn how to play a song on guitar because you already know how to play guitar.

Speaker 37 Also, Max, if I took coding,

Speaker 89 be like, oh, well, that makes you money.

Speaker 37 So you're just taking money management to

Speaker 102 how to get a job. Way.

Speaker 37 How to get a job is the exact thing.

Speaker 42 Also, buying Bitcoin is difficult.

Speaker 113 I'm talking about Bitcoin. Also, it's not difficult.
Yes, it is. Go on Cash Add a lot.
I've already tried it.

Speaker 53 You're going to go on Cash at the end.

Speaker 39 I've got ETH's accounts just blowing you up being like,

Speaker 1 all right, our last pick is karate.

Speaker 37 Okay, fighting.

Speaker 53 Yeah, I wish I fucking knew karate.

Speaker 1 Dude, imagine if someone came at you and you're just like, bro, you don't want this.

Speaker 61 I'm a black belt since I was seven.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Karate.

Speaker 37 Jiu-Jitsu would be cool, too.

Speaker 64 Just fucking people up with your hands.

Speaker 31 I wish I knew karate.

Speaker 40 I really do.

Speaker 60 You guys like that?

Speaker 37 Yeah, we can get a teacher.

Speaker 1 No, because I wish I...

Speaker 4 That's kind of like the golf where it's like if you knew karate when you were young and like you like it's also like a guitar.

Speaker 39 Everyone did karate at some point.

Speaker 53 Yeah, it's like

Speaker 92 no one did.

Speaker 69 No one.

Speaker 1 It's like I wish someone had said, hey, yellow belt.

Speaker 39 Stick with.

Speaker 1 Imagine if I was just walking around today and I was like a fucking plus two handicap and a black belt.

Speaker 53 My life would be way better. Yeah.

Speaker 59 Way better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the idea of someone, it's the idea of like, you know, when you're in your 20s and like maybe someone's stepping to you and you're just being like, buddy.

Speaker 37 I know karate.

Speaker 53 You don't want to do this.

Speaker 42 I will, I will fucking kill you with three moves.

Speaker 37 Don't step the big guy. He knows karate.
He knows karate.

Speaker 53 He's a black belt.

Speaker 39 I like CC PFT.

Speaker 53 Nope, we're not going to do that. Okay.

Speaker 45 Oh, come on.

Speaker 114 We did karate.

Speaker 37 No, no, this is more of a karate one. Hank wants me to take a

Speaker 56 boring one. Yeah, let's get what? Yeah, it's a boring one.

Speaker 36 What?

Speaker 112 Shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 37 Our final pick is going to be

Speaker 24 what? No.

Speaker 89 What? Say it.

Speaker 37 No, no it's not boring but i'm excited for what you're going to pick have fun go for it partner throwing a knuckleball oh i like that throwing a knuckleball would be awesome if you worked really fucking hard on it yeah and you just got to the bigs and you were able to pitch for like 25 years i like that and nobody could figure out how to hit it yeah I like that anybody because it's one of those things where I know this is probably 100% wrong but I think anybody that really dedicates themselves to throwing a knuckleball will make it to major league baseball yeah agreed That was one of my original, original, like, I don't even think.

Speaker 39 Get rich quick schemes? Yeah, I said this to Dave at one point when I was when I was like 20, and I was like, I feel like if you just locked, sent me to a cabin with a coach for a year.

Speaker 39 I could do it. So it'd be a knuckleball, I could make it to the leagues.
And then by the time I was like 27, it was probably, I think I've talked about it on the show. Yeah.

Speaker 39 It reached an age, but there was like three or four years where I was like, if you guys want a content idea, I think it was before this show.

Speaker 39 I was like, if you want a content idea, like just send me to the woods with a knuckleball coach, and I'll come back.

Speaker 23 It was the idea before mini golf

Speaker 39 long, long before mini golf. That was before, yeah, mini golf was after I got into golf.

Speaker 37 Yeah, even if you didn't make it to the pros, just being able to toss a sick knuckleball when you're like hanging out with your friends would be awesome, make them look idiot like idiots.

Speaker 5 All right, last pick.

Speaker 97 Um, we're gonna go with

Speaker 97 yeah, we're gonna go with carpentry for our last pick. I watch a lot of DIY stuff on TikTok.

Speaker 97 Have you ever been to a basement where there's a, there's a wooden stage?

Speaker 29 We just did the same thing. I'm not going to argue.

Speaker 64 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 37 fixing around. Yes, I did.

Speaker 46 Carpentry is like, that's a

Speaker 23 full-blown profession that you have to learn to pick a tree in school.

Speaker 53 No, that's not. Not at all.
Not at all.

Speaker 95 I picked minor home repairs.

Speaker 105 This is the major of the repairs.

Speaker 53 We could fix anything.

Speaker 34 No, just wood. No, actually, you can't fix it.

Speaker 102 We're taking that.

Speaker 64 We can fix anything.

Speaker 90 No, actually, you couldn't fix anything because it's just wood.

Speaker 36 No, we can fix anything.

Speaker 94 Carpentry is just wood.

Speaker 42 You can't.

Speaker 40 If the water heater blows out, I can fix it.

Speaker 9 You can't.

Speaker 66 No, that's major repair.

Speaker 95 You're minor. No, no.

Speaker 92 I said handyman work.

Speaker 113 That's exactly what you call a handyman repair.

Speaker 98 No, I said handyman work.

Speaker 19 A water heater fix is the

Speaker 64 picture.

Speaker 59 Handyman work.

Speaker 97 You just say. No, we said minor home repairs in our list.

Speaker 96 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 97 That's where you got mixed up. I was thinking.

Speaker 1 All right, cool, guys. You guys can build us some stairs.

Speaker 36 That's awesome. I'm not even saying that.

Speaker 97 I'm saying like

Speaker 97 building tables and shit.

Speaker 38 They just took Jesus.

Speaker 83 Yeah, they did. Yeah, no.

Speaker 53 All right.

Speaker 4 Let's do honorable mentions.

Speaker 5 I got some ones that were thrown on.

Speaker 39 Is counting cards boring?

Speaker 96 No, we had it on our list.

Speaker 53 I love that one. We had it on our list.

Speaker 39 PFT saying it was boring was crazy.

Speaker 37 It's more boring than Knuckleball.

Speaker 30 Zach had that one.

Speaker 39 No, it's not. It's illegal.
It's like

Speaker 39 you can get, you're not going to get thrown in jail or thrown into the basement of a casino for throwing a knuckleball.

Speaker 37 If you're really good at it, maybe.

Speaker 107 What about?

Speaker 37 Yeah, it's like fixing a game.

Speaker 16 How do you guys think Magic would have played?

Speaker 53 Bad. Bad.

Speaker 94 gives a fuck.

Speaker 37 Yeah, don't really, don't really care.

Speaker 59 I wish

Speaker 1 no, if you have like two or three magic tricks that you can always go to, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 35 It would have been.

Speaker 37 I would rather be a mentalist, learn mentalist.

Speaker 64 Mentalists.

Speaker 53 Yeah, that's that's cool.

Speaker 71 What about how do you think the pick and my guy at the Super Bowl?

Speaker 53 The rules to intentional grounding.

Speaker 37 I know those.

Speaker 53 I wish I learned it when I was younger, though, because there still are times where you're like, is it?

Speaker 1 Is it not?

Speaker 64 Even the refs don't know.

Speaker 15 Also, infield fly.

Speaker 39 Yep.

Speaker 37 love it when a softball ump calls infield fly. He's like, I've trained my entire life for this moment.
Yeah. What about just talking to chicks?

Speaker 37 Social skills. Yeah, it's one of the social skills, but like really being really good at picking up chicks.
Yeah,

Speaker 39 social skills. Negging.

Speaker 82 Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 39 We had public speaking, so I guess similar social skills.

Speaker 42 Cook the perfect steak.

Speaker 92 But Hank, you do

Speaker 53 cooking. No.

Speaker 39 You would never do it.

Speaker 59 What?

Speaker 4 We all established that we grill all the time.

Speaker 37 We do grill. You said cook.

Speaker 53 Yeah,

Speaker 53 cook the perfect steak.

Speaker 37 Big cat made a great steak when we had our steak off.

Speaker 39 On the grill?

Speaker 101 But I would on the pan.

Speaker 41 Okay, sorry.

Speaker 42 Make the perfect steak.

Speaker 40 We're in honorable mentions, dude.

Speaker 37 Microsoft Excel?

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 37 That would be a good one to know. Yeah.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 37 I've said that I'm proficient on every resume that I've sent. Never once have I approached proficiency.

Speaker 28 I am so far from proficiency.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like the old, like, when Brian Scalabrini would be like, I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Like, I'm closer to

Speaker 1 like a rabbit than I am to a proficient at Excel.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 53 That's how far away we are.

Speaker 37 One time I was working at a job and somebody sent me a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet and all I could think about was like, you are actually putting the entire business in jeopardy by even emailing me.

Speaker 11 Yeah, because I'm going to fuck up a cell. Yes.

Speaker 39 What about dressing nice?

Speaker 22 I kind of like that one.

Speaker 37 Is I'm like an adult? I pretty much got that already.

Speaker 108 Just knowing that. No, you learned how to dress when you were seven and then you kept it.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 70 It's a good. Listen,

Speaker 92 once your parents stopped dressing you,

Speaker 39 that was it.

Speaker 9 Zach had spearfish.

Speaker 53 Would be cool. Yeah.

Speaker 77 If we're ever on survivor or we're on an island, we're just, we're dialed.

Speaker 37 Hunting. I think hunting and fishing in general.

Speaker 19 Shooting a gun. I thought

Speaker 97 in practice, like,

Speaker 97 being a boat guy in theory

Speaker 97 would be great, but in practice, then you have to be the boat guy.

Speaker 57 So that's why I kind of...

Speaker 4 That's just a general, yeah, also like guy who knows everything.

Speaker 67 Kind of like boat guys are boat guys, car guys.

Speaker 12 Yeah, they kind of all are the fishing, hunting.

Speaker 39 It's all

Speaker 92 tie a bow tie.

Speaker 5 Probably only has happened like three times in my life.

Speaker 28 Awesome.

Speaker 1 But we had to do the YouTube video every time.

Speaker 97 Did you figure it out with a YouTube video?

Speaker 4 I think one of my friends figured it out and then tied all of our bow ties.

Speaker 37 You got to have one guy in the crew that knows that.

Speaker 97 I remember I literally tried for like two hours

Speaker 97 at a recent uh

Speaker 97 wedding and then somebody had to like drive to to the house that i was at to do it for me because i just couldn't figure it out what about being able to sing

Speaker 37 learning how to sing i thought about that but like what what does that really have at this point of your life it's like tone deaf people will never learn that no but it's like uh junior soprano when he just starts singing out of nowhere and people start crying you're like i had no idea this guy could sing like that guy's also a little bit of a tryhard yeah that's true uh it probably says something about us as a podcast that we didn't pick learning a new language.

Speaker 97 Yep. We had it on our list.

Speaker 53 Very Incurious. Who cares?

Speaker 53 Who cares?

Speaker 11 We had our list and we're like,

Speaker 55 what should we do?

Speaker 40 I'd much rather be able to fucking do karate

Speaker 1 than know Spanish.

Speaker 102 Building a table would be fun.

Speaker 97 Like, it's fun.

Speaker 70 You guys are second guessing your question.

Speaker 37 I had to build a table as an omnibus.

Speaker 37 As a Quaker guy. It's part of my rite of passage into adulthood.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 37 I bought a table at IKEA. I assume that we go.
Built that shit.

Speaker 1 Drive a stick shift.

Speaker 53 Is that real? Yeah.

Speaker 39 That's like you have to build a table?

Speaker 37 You have to build a sturdy table. And you did it with Ikea.
I just got it. I just bought a table.
That's smart.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 37 I put it together.

Speaker 94 Who is judging? IKEA is tough.

Speaker 44 Who are you building the table?

Speaker 37 It's for yourself. It's about yourself.

Speaker 97 Do you guys see those DIY guys on TikTok who like build like

Speaker 97 overhangs over their patio and shit?

Speaker 97 It's the coolest thing ever that a man can do. Yeah.

Speaker 37 That's when you're actually a real adult man.

Speaker 97 Yeah. Like that shit is so sick.

Speaker 24 Kind of

Speaker 97 Yeah, like going into like a like a like a dad basement and you just see a wood shop in there is so sick. So sick.

Speaker 53 Garbage.

Speaker 105 We had calories.

Speaker 37 Oh. Okay.
Learned calories. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How credit cards work, kind of like your pick, Max.

Speaker 39 Credit cards work would have been a good one.

Speaker 83 I went on Weight Watchers in the sixth grade.

Speaker 39 I didn't know if that was. I didn't have a credit card until after.
Wait, what?

Speaker 97 I went on Weight Watchers in the sixth grade, lost 30 pounds. but so I learned calories early.

Speaker 107 Then you ignored them.

Speaker 94 Correct. Yeah, I mean, exercise.

Speaker 21 I'm getting back.

Speaker 97 In general, still, you know, I play that doesn't help me either.

Speaker 11 What about whistling with your fingers?

Speaker 52 Oh, yeah, yeah. I wish I knew how to do it.

Speaker 40 Put them in your mouth, and then that's just a real like man thing to be able to do.

Speaker 40 Give one of those.

Speaker 40 Like the dogs running away.

Speaker 37 Along the same lines as throwing a knuckleball, I had long snapping.

Speaker 37 Just practicing long snapping. I feel like you'd have a job for life.
Yep.

Speaker 65 Zach, what else did you have?

Speaker 77 I think being able to dunk would be, I would use that for the rest of my life.

Speaker 79 Yeah, that's also.

Speaker 39 You can learn that after. Yeah.
After you're young.

Speaker 77 I got no shot. Yeah.

Speaker 53 No.

Speaker 65 We should try. We should do a video series.

Speaker 34 What about dancing?

Speaker 65 Dancing we had on our list.

Speaker 1 Would be cool if you were like at least a decent dancer.

Speaker 39 Well, especially with TikTok nowadays.

Speaker 39 If you committed to dancing every day, you'd be

Speaker 39 a lot better off.

Speaker 97 I feel like an obscure Olympic sport would have been

Speaker 53 something that

Speaker 97 if you dedicated your life to as a child, you could be an Olympian.

Speaker 64 Curling?

Speaker 97 Yeah,

Speaker 97 something like that.

Speaker 1 I got one that... Oh, do we say jumper cables?

Speaker 4 I think I know how to do it.

Speaker 97 That's an easy YouTube logo.

Speaker 39 I think even with no phone, I would be able to jump a car.

Speaker 1 Here's one that's going to maybe get some side looks, but

Speaker 1 just like

Speaker 31 floss, the importance of floss.

Speaker 53 Okay. Still don't really

Speaker 31 should probably floss more.

Speaker 114 I know how to do it.

Speaker 53 It doesn't mean I do it.

Speaker 97 It doesn't mean I do it more.

Speaker 99 Speaking of which, I got to fucking call it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like the calories thing where it's like, I kind of wish they had really hammered that into my head that you got a floss.

Speaker 102 Throw you in on me calling the dentist.

Speaker 39 Yeah, just add my name.

Speaker 39 My name to it.

Speaker 87 Actually, add me too.

Speaker 53 The dentist is bullshit.

Speaker 97 I went last week. I had no problems with my teeth.
They said I had a cavity. They filled a cavity.
And now two weeks later, my tooth hurts like shit.

Speaker 38 Okay, so

Speaker 97 the one that they filled, I got to call a cat.

Speaker 53 I got my mom heavy with that.

Speaker 19 Have you been to the dentist since you've been in Chicago?

Speaker 39 I was like,

Speaker 59 I'm going Monday.

Speaker 37 I have scheduled two dentist appointments, but I canceled both of them. So that counts for something.

Speaker 71 PMTV?

Speaker 19 Let's go to the dentist. No.

Speaker 1 No, we need a Stoolee dentist.

Speaker 97 I thought you were going to say the Dave Dentist guy.

Speaker 110 Come in.

Speaker 90 No, we need a Stoole dentist.

Speaker 113 Let's get a Stoole dentist.

Speaker 1 Hit us up. You got to be in the city of Chicago.
I do need a dentist. And you guys are going to be like, you don't want a Stoole dentist.

Speaker 53 I had one.

Speaker 4 I had one in Brooklyn, and he was the man.

Speaker 1 Because they don't just.

Speaker 11 You still have to pass dental school.

Speaker 53 So it's not like they're,

Speaker 78 you know, idiots.

Speaker 53 I'm cool with this.

Speaker 97 I'm cool with a Stoole dentist if he tells me my other dentist was a piece of shit.

Speaker 37 All right, perfect.

Speaker 97 You're telling me I had a cavity. Let's get a dentist.
Giving me a cavity.

Speaker 1 Someone hit us up. All the PMT boys will show up.
We're all going to get our teeth cleaned.

Speaker 39 And like probably 10 cavities.

Speaker 10 And learn floss.

Speaker 95 Can I still get mine cleaned Monday?

Speaker 102 Nope. No, you gotta go with us, bro.

Speaker 49 Okay.

Speaker 80 All right, good Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 2 Any others?

Speaker 37 Anyone have any others?

Speaker 65 That was it for Split Wood we had there chess

Speaker 39 Chess is a good one. Chess would be cool if you although I feel like I did learn chess when I was young.
I just forgot it.

Speaker 1 But that's also like something too. Like if you're really good at chess, like

Speaker 4 how much you're going to use it later in life because people won't want to play with you.

Speaker 53 Right.

Speaker 29 You know?

Speaker 37 I learned how to do the four-move checkmate, and then I was like, that's all I need to know in chess. I'm just going to run this play, and then if they stop me, I'm fucked.

Speaker 1 Zach had driving through a roundabout, so that just tells me he does not know how to do that.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 77 They're just not. They're regional.
You know, you run into them in different states, so you haven't encountered him before.

Speaker 13 But they're all the same rules.

Speaker 37 No, some places don't have. Yeah.

Speaker 80 They're big in Europe.

Speaker 40 But they're the same rules.

Speaker 77 So that would be like a left-sided roundabout, so then it would be

Speaker 37 opposite, too. Yeah.
It depends on what country. Yeah.

Speaker 67 Who drives like us in Europe?

Speaker 37 I think France. Oh, fuck.
I think the only countries that drive on

Speaker 37 the wrong side are England and Ireland

Speaker 37 and maybe Australia.

Speaker 74 Weirdos. Yeah, Australia does.

Speaker 35 You know that?

Speaker 37 We drive on the lift.

Speaker 53 You've been there?

Speaker 39 I was a you.

Speaker 37 Oh, nice. Hank, ask me if you drive on the right side of the road in Australia.
I'll do an accent.

Speaker 39 Drive on the right side of Australia in Australia.

Speaker 37 Nair.

Speaker 53 I love the nair. Nar.
Nar.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interviews.

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Speaker 72 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, friend of ours, never been on, ever, first time.

Speaker 1 It is Kevin Clark.

Speaker 5 You can watch This Is Football on ESPN2.

Speaker 1 He's everywhere.

Speaker 4 He's plugged into the league.

Speaker 1 He's been traveling around all summer, so we're going to get some intel, maybe a little preview.

Speaker 9 Football's almost back.

Speaker 51 He also moonlights as a Geek Squad member at Best Buy.

Speaker 9 So let's start there.

Speaker 11 Stephen A.

Speaker 4 Smith said that you're a member of Geek Squad from Best Buy.

Speaker 90 You got to fight him, dude.

Speaker 71 So the content, he was being complimentary of me. He said, you're doing a great job.
He had to do a little dig. My dad, so an alpha announcing aggregates it and says everything now.

Speaker 71 They said, uh,

Speaker 71 uh, Stephen A. gives Kevin Clark his full endorsement, dot, dot, dot, even though he looks like a member of Geek Squad.

Speaker 71 Okay, so my dad forwards it to our entire family and just lops off the second half of the headline, which is amazing.

Speaker 102 But no, I

Speaker 44 do, like, I can lean into that.

Speaker 71 That's fine. Like, I can, I can do the geek stuff.
I'm, I got, I'm into the numbers stuff, so I'm good with it.

Speaker 53 I don't have to fight him.

Speaker 55 All right. Stephen A's tall.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should have just challenged him because I don't know if he's about that.

Speaker 2 I don't know if he would have stood on that business.

Speaker 37 I don't think Stephen A. Smith fights anymore.
I think he's got people that would do that.

Speaker 42 Imagine if you beat him up, though, because then his whole fight with LeBron looks really foolish.

Speaker 65 You kick the shit out of Stephen A.

Speaker 4 Smith, and then he's, and next time he tries to be like, yeah, LeBron, if you come at me like a man, it's like, dude, Kevin Clark beat your ass.

Speaker 71 I'd probably get beat up.

Speaker 55 Oh, wow. That'd be my guess.

Speaker 53 Come on.

Speaker 71 That'd be my guess.

Speaker 37 Who is a more demanding person to work with? Stephen A. Smith or Peyton Manning?

Speaker 35 Well, so

Speaker 71 I've only done two episodes of Stephen A. It's been amazing.
We haven't even been in the same room yet. Peyton is a force.
Sounds like he's really close.

Speaker 113 No, no.

Speaker 113 They're both forces of nature.

Speaker 71 Like, they're both...

Speaker 71 So, like, Peyton, the reason I have Peyton Manning's phone number is because he was on my show talking about Kevin O'Connell, and this is just, like, exactly what you think Peyton would be. And

Speaker 71 we wrap up. I go, like, make a lunch or whatever.
And I got this number. that I've never seen before and just a wall of text.
And he's like, hey, just one more thing on Kevin O'Connell's offense.

Speaker 71 And he just sends me like paragraphs about how much he loves the Vikings' offense.

Speaker 71 So it's like, it's that kind of thing where, like, I don't hear from him all the time, but like, I hear from him enough where it's like, he just wants to talk ball.

Speaker 53 That's all he wants to do. That's all he wants to do.

Speaker 55 I love it.

Speaker 53 Similar to Gruden. Yes.

Speaker 71 All they want to do is just like, hey, I, you know, I have so many thoughts on the Vikings that I'm just going to send a wall of text or voice memo.

Speaker 1 Do his eyes, like similar to Gruden, do his eyes kind of glaze over when you just do any topic besides football?

Speaker 16 Because Gruden, it's very funny.

Speaker 71 Like, he, he will not, he's not rude about it but it's like he's just like hey can we get back to football Jack travels with Peyton what's your what's your what's your take on what happens when when we're talking here I'm talking the mic talking the mic

Speaker 77 no Kevin's mic share a mic mic to mic what's the question exactly when when when you're not talking football with Peyton Manning does he get a little not bored but like hey can we get back to football yeah I mean I try to keep it very surface level questions about football because I know the second I start asking about like cover two or cover three, then he takes it to a next level.

Speaker 37 Yeah, yeah. You got to pretend to understand what he's saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 71 He's he's dialed on football all the time.

Speaker 74 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 55 Football guy through and through. Big time.

Speaker 71 That's what it's all truly like that's all he cares about.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 37 I think one time we were trying to explain Chapel Rowan to John Gruden and I think to murder everybody.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's like, get me the fuck out of here.

Speaker 34 So can we talk about quarterbacks again?

Speaker 71 Didn't he say on your show a couple months ago that he was getting dialed in on music?

Speaker 52 A little bit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he is listening to new music.

Speaker 37 I forget what new artist he's really into these days. There was somebody that he was all about for like a couple of months.
But that's like a true football guy.

Speaker 37 In the offseason, you start to get a little antsy. You start to get new habits in like May, June, and then July hits, and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm back to football.
Forget about music.

Speaker 37 I don't care about music. Football.

Speaker 37 It's football season.

Speaker 15 So you are also dialed into football.

Speaker 32 Like I said at the start, you've been traveling around.

Speaker 23 We got some questions. Like, we'll use this as a little bit of NFL preview, which I feel like you can't do enough NFL previews.

Speaker 4 This time of year, it's just like, what do we want to talk about?

Speaker 12 Oh, let's talk about football, even though they're not playing yet.

Speaker 23 But let's start with the big news, Micah Parsons. So first question is, Micah Parsons will play week one for probably the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 71 Okay. So there's a couple things about it.

Speaker 71 First of all, we're just now finding out after 40 years that Jerry Jones doesn't negotiate with agents, which is like one of those things that we probably should have found out a long time ago.

Speaker 71 I'm just glad.

Speaker 71 So I think it's coming out now because Jerry, there's an element of professional wrestling in everything that Jerry Jones does.

Speaker 71 And there's one guy who in the last 40 years was like, I don't want to do the professional wrestling thing. And because of that, everything, the entire franchise has collapsed.
Like, they're like,

Speaker 71 he demanded a trade, which CeeDee Lamb didn't do. Ezekiel Elliott just went to Cabo instead of demanding a trade.
Dak Prescott didn't demand a trade.

Speaker 71 And so I think it's going to get done, but it just shows you how fragile the whole thing was because Jerry thought he was doing a bit. And Micah was like, I don't want to do a bit.
I want

Speaker 71 $45 million a year. That was a good bit.

Speaker 53 That's my bit. That's my bit.

Speaker 71 And so now we're, I don't know. Like, I think this is one,

Speaker 71 this is the situation that Jerry can't win in, which is that this guy does not want to play Jerry's stupid game. Right.

Speaker 37 And then I saw Jerry, he said, like, this is all part of the negotiation process.

Speaker 34 It's mom and a dad.

Speaker 37 I don't think that Micah knew that this was part

Speaker 34 process. Right.

Speaker 71 It should have been. He should have been like professional wrestling and he should have taken him into a back room and be like, these are the moves I'm going to do with you.

Speaker 71 Like, you have to have buy-in if you're going to do a professional wrestling bit.

Speaker 66 And that also is where I feel like it's headed.

Speaker 31 If the answer is Dallas Cowboys, it's headed towards Micah Parsons' new contract getting announced right before Thursday night football.

Speaker 46 Yes.

Speaker 53 Maybe that's what he likes to do.

Speaker 4 He wants to steal Banner Knight from the Eagles, being like Micah Parsons.

Speaker 71 That's it. He's just obsessed with himself.

Speaker 71 The guidepost for Jerry is like, he wants to win, sure, like in some vague way, but he really wants to get credit for winning.

Speaker 53 And he wants the headlines.

Speaker 71 He wants the headlines, but he wants people to be talking about Jerry Jones being a smart football guy. Like, we already have proof of concept.
Like, I said on TV a couple weeks ago where I was like,

Speaker 71 if the football gods were like, hey, you can win three Super Bowls, but you can't give a press conference about it, he'd be like, no deal. Like, he wants to

Speaker 71 talk about it. That's the point.

Speaker 113 Right.

Speaker 71 And people were like, oh, well, I don't know about that. He fired Jimmy Johnson.
Yeah. Because he was like, I don't know if I'm getting enough credit for this one.
I'm not like, I'm not

Speaker 71 in the inner circle of the coaching staff. I want more power.
I want more

Speaker 71 just shine in this. Like, Jimmy's getting so much shine from these Super Bowls.
Like, I don't like this. He'd rather have Dave Campo and,

Speaker 15 you know, Harry Switzer won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 70 Harry Switzer. He did.

Speaker 71 Jason Garrett, like all those guys. He'd rather have that than win.

Speaker 71 And the reason we know this is because if he wanted to change, he would.

Speaker 55 He's done nothing to change the franchise.

Speaker 1 And he's not going to at this point. All right.
So just let's do a hypothetical.

Speaker 5 He's not on the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 4 What is the cost?

Speaker 29 And is there even one team that

Speaker 4 shouldn't be in the running for this? Because to me, it's such a no-brainer that every team should be calling the Cowboys.

Speaker 71 All 31.

Speaker 1 It's not even people like, oh, two first-round picks. Who the fuck cares? If you have Micah Parsons, you're not going to get a guy in the next two drafts that's better than Micah Parsons.

Speaker 71 No, and what's funny is to see the trade proposals, fan bases cook up. Oh, yeah.
It's like one first-round pick, and then like our bust defensive. Yeah, our worst player.

Speaker 102 Yeah, like, well, maybe.

Speaker 55 We'll part with that.

Speaker 71 It'd probably be three first-round picks. Really? Yeah, yes.
Because the Cowboys want to keep them. The franchise tag existing, when you think about it, is the craziest thing in sport.

Speaker 71 They're allowed to keep guys for three extra years because they're good at their job. Right.
And it's cost controlled. And that's what the Cowboys will just do.
Like, they will control.

Speaker 71 Micah's playing on his fifth year option right now, which, by the way,

Speaker 71 there's some dishonest ways to look at this, but they're paying

Speaker 71 Micah and Dak as much as the Eagles are paying their top four guys, which is Hurts, My Lotta, Lane Johnson, and A.J. Brown.
So like that's Howie versus how Jerry Jones operates.

Speaker 71 And that's the huge quarterback contract and then a guy playing on his fifth-year option. But I think the Cowboys don't want to trade him.

Speaker 71 And the franchise tag is the most,

Speaker 71 it is the best leverage in sports that teams have. Like no one else has anything approaching that.

Speaker 71 So, I don't, my, my feeling on it, and I've said this before, and I haven't, can't think of a counterfactual, I don't think a team, an NFL team has ever traded a guy they wanted to keep.

Speaker 55 Right.

Speaker 71 Because you think about Rodgers, and he was like, I want out. And they were like, thanks for the suggestion.
We're going to keep you two more years until Jordan Love is ready.

Speaker 71 Russell Wilson, same thing in Seattle. Like, there's never really an element of teams being like, oh, this guy.
Like, the NBA now, like, you demand a trade. And they're like, okay, yeah.

Speaker 71 Well, here's your playing ticket. And in the NFL,

Speaker 71 I do not think there's ever been a negotiation where John Gruden traded Khalil Mack. His whole thing was we stunk on defense with you.
We'll just take the picks and figure it out later.

Speaker 71 Like that's the kind of stuff that happens in the NFL. It's not, oh, this guy really wants out and we're just going to do it as a favor to the agent or whatever is going on in the NBA.

Speaker 71 No, Micah Parsons is going to go anywhere. Okay.
Unless Jerry decides.

Speaker 37 I mean, I think what might get it done is if they just carbon copy the Herschel Walker deal. Because then Jerry would be like, that was a great trade for us.

Speaker 64 Those are great trades.

Speaker 37 We're back.

Speaker 37 We ended up winning Super Bowls based off that. We got Emmett Smith.

Speaker 71 It would have to be massive, and the team they were trading with would have to stink.

Speaker 37 It would probably have to be the Vikings. It would have to be the exact same trade.
And then Jira would be like, okay, I'll do it. Is there a possibility that Micah just sits out?

Speaker 71 I don't think so. What does that help with? Like,

Speaker 71 you don't get a year closer to free agency.

Speaker 55 You don't get money.

Speaker 71 You don't get money. You get a year older.
And I also think there's an element the league just doesn't like that. Like, the league is just going to be like, this sucks.

Speaker 71 And not, if you can't get two or three, whatever it would cost first-round picks now, you're not gonna get it after waiting out a year. That's not how it works.

Speaker 37 What do you think Brian Schottenheimer thinks about this whole thing? He probably was thinking

Speaker 37 he'll get like a couple weeks or a couple months of a grace period before this.

Speaker 4 He's probably by the way, we should remind everyone that Brian Schottenheimer is the coach of the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Jerry Jones just looked down the hallway and was like, You, you, you coach now.

Speaker 71 That's what I was going to say. Is like, he's probably like, oh my god, this is so cool.
I got to be the head coach of the Cowboys.

Speaker 53 Like, he's probably so rocked with it.

Speaker 35 Whatever happens during the years.

Speaker 55 We're doing Micah. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 37 Let's do the the Micah storyline. Cool.

Speaker 53 Cool. He's just so into it.

Speaker 71 Like, there's no way.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 71 It's like, it's like, did you guys ever see the movie King Ralph?

Speaker 53 No.

Speaker 71 It's with John Goodman. It's from like 40 years ago.
And

Speaker 71 I don't want to get the plot wrong. Obviously, a lot of King Ralph guys out there, but you're going to

Speaker 35 be like

Speaker 71 all the members of the royal family die. And this guy in Wisconsin

Speaker 19 back or something. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 71 John Goodman becomes the king of England. And just because he just got elevated.

Speaker 71 And great plot line.

Speaker 71 and it's such an amazing can we reboot that yeah um who would play that now probably John Goodman probably yeah probably still John Goodman probably John Goodman but like that's sometimes you get these head coaches who are in total King Ralph mode and they're just like I didn't expect to be the king of England right this is amazing yeah I don't know how much he's complaining but he's probably like listen he's like a good guy I've interviewed him before Players obviously like him I'm not being like flippant about it he probably you know not probably he obviously wants to win and I think he knows that this is going to get figured out like everything else does.

Speaker 90 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 37 What about the other hold-ins across the league?

Speaker 71 James Cook was yesterday. I was in Buffalo for that.

Speaker 85 Business. Business.

Speaker 71 That'll probably get done. Like, I don't, I'm not.

Speaker 71 All of these. So James Cook is the hold-in.
Who are the other hold-ins?

Speaker 41 There's Terry and Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 53 Oh, that's the one you're asking about.

Speaker 71 I was dancing around Terry.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 71 You would see that.

Speaker 50 We don't care about James Cook.

Speaker 53 They'll get it.

Speaker 71 I don't know. This thing about

Speaker 71 the commanders not wanting to sign a guy over 30 years old for that kind of money. Yeah.

Speaker 71 People were embarrassed to be commanders fans until like two years ago. And the entire,

Speaker 71 except for you. Yeah.
But were you?

Speaker 37 I mean, I hated Dan Snyder. Okay.

Speaker 55 I still do. Yeah.

Speaker 37 I hope he's listening right now, and I hope he's crying.

Speaker 71 I'd be surprised if he was listening.

Speaker 1 I would be surprised if he's crying.

Speaker 37 He's probably just happy.

Speaker 92 Being honest, he's probably on a yacht.

Speaker 56 He's cackling in the island somewhere. I think he might be.

Speaker 1 There's a better chance he's listening than crying.

Speaker 71 Did he ever come back? Remember when he was avoiding testifying?

Speaker 55 Oh, he's never come back.

Speaker 37 Yeah, no, he's on his yacht. He's still there.
Foreign territory.

Speaker 71 He's left international waters.

Speaker 37 No, he's just been floating around on his own private yacht for the last like four years.

Speaker 5 Still downloading, pardon my taste.

Speaker 37 Still downloading the podcast. Shout out to him.

Speaker 71 I don't know why.

Speaker 71 I think both sides should cave. Because this is just too important.
And like Jaden Daniels, the deep ball needs to get better. I talked to him a couple days ago, as you did.

Speaker 71 And

Speaker 71 he said to me, I I was like, how can the deep ball get better? Because he was so good at LSU. He was like better than Joe Burrow as far as 40-yard chunk plays.
And that means he's the best in history.

Speaker 71 And he said,

Speaker 71 they got to a point at LSU when it was Mike Neighbors and Brian Thomas where they repped it so much that they knew if they had man coverage they were going to win like exactly how to how to get the ball down the field exactly where to place it all that stuff the only way to get that at the NFL level is for him and Ty McLaren to just work on that every day for the next 40 days and then and then you get there that's the one place where they left me on the bone is the deep passing and so I don't,

Speaker 71 I think that they need to give him the DK Metcalf contract and call it a day. Like, I don't understand this, like, oh, we can't pay him for 30.

Speaker 71 Like, you have a chance legitimately to win a Super Bowl this year. Like, you can't screw that up.

Speaker 71 The fan base has PTSD. And, like, I know it's like, oh, analytics, you can't do this.
You can't, like, you can't use that as a guidepost. Yes, you can.
Like, the fan base attitude matters.

Speaker 71 Like, they deserve good things.

Speaker 71 Right.

Speaker 37 I think Terry deserves good things too. Yes.
Like, he's been the ideal football player that you want on just objectively shitty teams. Yes.
He's And the guy that always showed up, worked hard.

Speaker 3 It's also like the timeline.

Speaker 4 Jaden Daniels is on a rookie contract.

Speaker 11 This is when you can

Speaker 67 pay guys.

Speaker 70 You can go out and get another guy through it.

Speaker 71 Like, trade for Trey Henderson. I don't know.
I'm going to just go out and do it. Like, Vaughn Miller was paying like 17 snaps a game last year.
He's going to be like a fourth quarter guy.

Speaker 71 You can still use another password. Go out and take a swing.

Speaker 71 You don't have to be a process guy just because the ownership is from the 76ers, which, by the way, the process didn't even work. Well, no, disagree.

Speaker 37 The process of the process worked. They got the first picks, right?

Speaker 37 The results of the process didn't work.

Speaker 53 And it's the process guys. We still don't have the results.

Speaker 37 Yeah, we don't

Speaker 37 know what happens.

Speaker 36 As long as the Joe and B is there.

Speaker 40 It's not even Joel and Bi'd.

Speaker 1 It's just like forever.

Speaker 5 As long as the process, as long as one link back to the process exists, they can win a championship in 20 years and be like, kind of worked.

Speaker 71 That's a good point. Yeah.

Speaker 40 It's still open. Like, if Joe and B gets traded, those guys then become part of the process.

Speaker 71 Yeah, it's an open door. It's like the Thunder, the Thunder made a trade with the Magic 2016 for Ola Depot and Sergeibaca.
And like the After Effects got them all of their players. Yeah.

Speaker 52 Now. That's right.

Speaker 37 You're a Magic fan.

Speaker 37 You are the Magic fan.

Speaker 71 I'm the Magic fan.

Speaker 37 What other Magic fans are there? You're the only one that's Rudy.

Speaker 70 Yeah, Chiefs are Rudy.

Speaker 71 Tiger Woods was one. This is a little bit controversial.
So Tiger Woods was a Magic fan. He was sitting courtside for like a decade.
And then they played the Lakers in the finals.

Speaker 71 And he released a statement basically saying he hopes both teams have fun.

Speaker 92 Both teams win.

Speaker 71 And I think that you've been kicked out of fraternity at that point.

Speaker 37 You just got to pick a side there. In the finals,

Speaker 71 he was basically like, you know, I grew up there.

Speaker 71 And first of all, just also don't release a statement. Just don't, yeah.

Speaker 67 Just pick a side. Just don't say that.

Speaker 90 Or just don't even go to the game. Black shirt.

Speaker 67 Yeah, just don't go to the game.

Speaker 102 The Rob Low hat. Yeah.

Speaker 53 Stupid to yourself.

Speaker 71 So a couple golfers are Magic fans. That makes sense.
Because the whole golfer community there. But no, same thing.
Like, it's the same thing as the Terry McClarne thing.

Speaker 71 Like, they went out and got Desmond Bain, and they're going to win now because they're going out and taking the swing. And I've been horrified sometimes to be a Magic fan over the past 14 years.

Speaker 71 And they haven't had like a top half offense, top half of league offense since Dwayne Howard left. And that's a little embarrassing.

Speaker 71 But the Terry McCarthy thing, like, you know, he's the best go ball receiver in football or second or something like that. Best tight window receiver in football.
Like, go out and just fix it.

Speaker 37 I agree. Pay Terry.
It's pretty.

Speaker 85 Pay Terry.

Speaker 37 So, what about the Bengals? Because I feel like they've gotten off to that terrible slow start for the last, what, three seasons. One was because of appendicitis.
I get that. He had surgery.
Yeah.

Speaker 37 But they just tend to start slow. I do feel like Zach Taylor might be.
There's some hot seat talk about Zach Taylor if it doesn't.

Speaker 71 I guess, but the Brown fans, this is the whole thing with Marvin Lewis.

Speaker 71 If he has a year left on his contract, he's not going to get fired. They don't do it, they're not making moves when they don't need to.
That's true. Yeah, they're a weird organization.

Speaker 71 They're the Cowboys' weirder older cousin.

Speaker 37 Yeah, so how would you describe the Bengals to somebody that might not be familiar with how Mr. Brown does business?

Speaker 71 They had to

Speaker 71 sell naming rights to the stadium to sign Joe Burrow.

Speaker 71 That's a little different.

Speaker 71 My theory on that was that they should have just had whoever was going to buy the rights to the stadium should have just bought the naming rights to Joe Burrow's contract.

Speaker 19 Or just to Joe Burrow.

Speaker 74 To Joe Burrow.

Speaker 71 So that way they're saying, like, it's the paycor, I think it's the paycorp stadium. So you have to say the paycorp Joe Burrow Joe Paycor.

Speaker 19 Yeah. Yeah, Joe Paycor.
Yeah.

Speaker 53 Yes, yes.

Speaker 71 And just do it that way. And then all of a sudden,

Speaker 71 there's probably some salary cap relief and paycorp gets its

Speaker 70 out there.

Speaker 71 that's a it's a funny situation might be a dumb question is it is an organization like pay corp would they be allowed to pay joe burrow like here's 50 million dollars so i think there's some salary cap circumvention as far as that goes but creative with the cap you could create it with the cap there was some of that there weren't there stories about like some teams questioning whether or not uh the tb12 stuff was cap circumvention right yeah was in was helping out tb12 and then it's like is that that there were some there was some rumblings you know like 10 years ago from, from teams, just complaining.

Speaker 71 But back then, there was a lot of like Patriots derangement syndrome a decade ago where people were just complaining about everything that they did. So that could have been part of it.
But

Speaker 71 I assume there'd be an investigation. First of all, if Joe Burrow showed up with a different Floria would be on that so fast.

Speaker 61 Oh my god. But

Speaker 71 yeah, they probably.

Speaker 37 What about Jaden Raytheon?

Speaker 85 Let's do it. Yeah.

Speaker 113 Just find out.

Speaker 71 The only way to find out is to do it. Yeah.
That's true. We're in the arena.
We're making things happen. Yeah, Yeah, listen.

Speaker 113 Jayden Raytheon.

Speaker 37 Move fast, breakstar, right?

Speaker 37 Let them punish us after the fact. Who would be a coach that might be a surprise hot seat guy this year?

Speaker 71 Mike McDaniel's not a surprise, right? No.

Speaker 37 No, I don't think so. I mean, he's just, he feels sad.
I think he's sad.

Speaker 71 It should have worked. It should have worked.
Like, they had a really good team two years ago. Tyreek and Waddle.
And he made Tua a lot better. But the one thing that's funny about...

Speaker 71 about McDaniel is how much ex-players on TV hate Mike McDaniel. They really hate him.

Speaker 71 Like every time I'm like, oh, oh, I'm going to go hard on the Dolphins, some guy next to me is like, this is the worst team. This is the worst coach in the world.
I'm like, oh, okay.

Speaker 71 I'm trying to think who else could be.

Speaker 37 With Mike McDaniel, though, what happened this offseason with Tyreek Hill? Because Tyreek seems like he's openly being antagonistic to his head coach right now.

Speaker 71 I don't think he wants to be there. He said he didn't want to be there anymore.
And then Tua was like,

Speaker 71 he's got to fix that relationship. It doesn't sound like he's doing it.

Speaker 55 No. And he also, he got worse last year.

Speaker 71 He had

Speaker 71 first two years he was in Miami, he led the NFL in deep receptions. It was 20 each season.
Last year, he had five. And so, and it's not like he was playing with

Speaker 71 Tyler Huntley the entire season. Like, it was just the number, and he was hurt, and he had the thing week one that was obviously the craziest thing.
So, there's context there.

Speaker 71 Like, he wasn't amazing to where a team's going to be like, hey, let's give you the Michael, let's give you the Herschel Walker trade for the kill. So, he's kind of there.

Speaker 71 So, they kind of have, it's kind of a make work there. Right.
And so, I don't,

Speaker 71 it has this, the possibility to be such a sad place this year. Yeah.
Yeah. Because they could lose a lot, and then everybody's getting injured.
Yeah.

Speaker 71 And then they start losing and everybody knows they're getting fired and it should have worked and they have a lot of guys under big contracts and just going to be really sad.

Speaker 4 He seems like someone that would be a really good second job candidate too, where it's like everything you described, like he's a good coach.

Speaker 71 He's a really good coach.

Speaker 40 He makes quarterbacks better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then this happens.

Speaker 23 All right, so I love this time of year trying to figure out, we know how the NFL works.

Speaker 29 When you look at like who made the playoffs last year, you can just essentially say three of those teams are not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 29 And so I try to figure out what's a team that maybe is everyone's low on that you could buy low.

Speaker 28 I got two teams I want to throw out.

Speaker 53 Okay.

Speaker 23 And I think they might be a little crazy, but I want to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 1 The first is the New York Giants.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I think that's a little crazy.

Speaker 53 Okay. I think it's a little crazy.

Speaker 66 I think their defense would be really good.

Speaker 71 I think their defense is going to be good.

Speaker 71 What's the offense there?

Speaker 102 Is it Jackson?

Speaker 67 Jameis.

Speaker 11 Jameis. It's got to be Jameis.

Speaker 37 It's Russ for the first four weeks, and then they go to Jameis. Yeah.
Sprinkle in a little Tommy DeVito, but then Jameis.

Speaker 64 You don't think it's surprising people?

Speaker 1 I mean, their pass rush should be one of the best units in all of the NFL.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 71 I think that

Speaker 71 the way they've handled it, and you look at Abdul Carter, the practice clips are unbelievable. And I think there's going to be a step forward there.
I just think on offense,

Speaker 71 there's nothing doing.

Speaker 71 Yeah, it can be a little sad. And I don't think Russell Wilson can give you much.
I think they're going to go to Jackson Dark just because of job preservation.

Speaker 71 The only way they save their job is either they win a bunch of games with Russell Wilson, which seems to be, or Jameis, which seems to be a good thing.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's not, this is not, my thought is not predicated on Russell Wilson.

Speaker 61 Just want that clear.

Speaker 64 I do not think he's cooked anymore.

Speaker 71 But I think they have to start Jackson Dark to save their jobs. Yeah.
Like, oh, look at that. We can't start over.
We've got a guy. We've got a guy here, so we've got to save our job.

Speaker 4 Win some ugly games.

Speaker 10 Sure.

Speaker 71 I just don't,

Speaker 71 when have they won ugly games? Like, I just don't. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Again, I'd say this is crazy. And then the other one might be even crazier.
I actually feel stronger about the Giants than the other one, the Raiders.

Speaker 71 That's not crazy, but the division is too hard.

Speaker 71 The Broncos are really good. I think the Chargers are pretty good.
I know. And then you have the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 But one of those teams is not going to make the playoffs. Just by, if you just go historically, like I said, the 17.

Speaker 71 Someone gets injured.

Speaker 1 Something happens that we don't see coming.

Speaker 71 I think Geno Smith's really good.

Speaker 1 And I think Pete Carroll gives consistency to that.

Speaker 49 They haven't had in a while.

Speaker 71 Brock Bowers is good. They probably need another receiver.
Defense can be okay. Yeah.
Pete Carroll is really good. He's a really good coach.

Speaker 71 And I think that the vibes can be high there, but I think it's like a nine-win team.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe I'm downgrading them from playoffs, but it's more

Speaker 2 like the Raiders can both be teams.

Speaker 1 If you look at the schedule and you're like, that's a win, maybe.

Speaker 71 I think the Raiders would be much better than me.

Speaker 71 I don't think that's that crazy. Okay.

Speaker 90 All right. I don't think that's that crazy.

Speaker 37 What about the Chargers in that division?

Speaker 71 I love the Chargers. I love the Chargers.

Speaker 71 I don't want to delve too deep into this. The Najee Harris thing is weird.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 71 It's weird.

Speaker 61 Wait, which one?

Speaker 4 Are you talking about the guy from Fresno that was on TV?

Speaker 29 That Najee Harris?

Speaker 37 There was a different Najee Harris that got injured in a fireworks accident.

Speaker 85 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 37 But then the other one also had a fireworks. Yeah.
It was crazy. It was a wild couple days.
Yeah.

Speaker 61 So I just want to clarify which one you're talking about.

Speaker 71 There was a tweet yesterday that was like, it was from a beat writer that was like, hey, Najee Harris is working off to the side. And remember, a month ago, he was deemed totally fine.
Right.

Speaker 71 Everything was good. So yesterday it was like he's working off to the side.
And then there was a follow-up tweet that was like, never mind. He's just standing there.

Speaker 71 And so

Speaker 71 that doesn't sound great. No.
He's been, you know, it doesn't seem good. But Hampton, bigger back, they want to run the ball.
They probably, again, probably need another receiver.

Speaker 71 I think Jim Harbaugh is amazing. Yeah.
So they'll probably win a bunch. I think they're probably going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 55 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 113 I think

Speaker 71 they are going to be third place in the division and like beat teams they shouldn't or should, whatever. And then, and then still, like, the Broncos and the Chiefs to me are too good.

Speaker 71 The Broncos are awesome.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 71 Broncos are a wagon, dude.

Speaker 90 So,

Speaker 1 all right, so then you give us a couple teams that you could see making it into the playoffs that weren't in the playoffs last year.

Speaker 71 So I don't really, I don't want to give you hope. I think the Bears might be okay.

Speaker 23 Okay is where I'm fine with.

Speaker 80 Okay, okay is okay.

Speaker 71 How are you processing? Okay, it's okay. How are you processing Caleb Williams missing a net?

Speaker 55 AI?

Speaker 53 I think it's AI.

Speaker 49 Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 I have.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to get more mature where it's like, look,

Speaker 1 what I liken it to is our social team.

Speaker 4 I assume all across the internet, they're basically like police officers at the end of the month. They got to get their quota up.

Speaker 49 What do you do?

Speaker 4 You hit the Caleb Williams' bad button.

Speaker 71 Instant reach. What if he's bad?

Speaker 9 He could be bad.

Speaker 4 My take on the Bears this year is I am excited for the fact that we have eliminated everything around Caleb Williams, and we will find out if Caleb Williams is good, which is a good thing to do.

Speaker 113 You got to find out.

Speaker 11 You got to find out.

Speaker 15 The coaches should be great.

Speaker 5 The offensive line is fixed.

Speaker 46 He's got weapons.

Speaker 11 Like, if Caleb Williams has a bad year, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, he might, you know, he needs this.

Speaker 1 He needs that. No, no, no.
He's got it.

Speaker 2 He's, this has got to be Joe Tooney, Drew Dahlman.

Speaker 71 There's got to be

Speaker 43 a progression, like Colson Loveland, you know.

Speaker 23 Colson Loveland, Cole Komet.

Speaker 71 Yeah. So no Keenan Allen out there.
Yeah.

Speaker 29 That Keenan Allen

Speaker 4 interception at the end of the year was so funny, though.

Speaker 19 When he's just like, fuck it, it's week 18.

Speaker 71 Speaking of aggregators, people are still like, Keenan Allen's still available.

Speaker 4 What are we going to do?

Speaker 1 I think he's going to go into the Chargers.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 71 What's that going to do? Yeah.

Speaker 55 He's big.

Speaker 21 He's a big hero.

Speaker 71 So my friends and I have something we call the Carmelo zone. Remember when Carmelo was like on his eighth team? Yeah.
And it was like, every show was like, or is Carmelo going to sign?

Speaker 71 So the league doesn't care about Carmelo Anthony. So like, why were you talking about this all the time?

Speaker 71 All respect to Carmelo had an amazing career, but obviously it's like Blaze was Carmelo wasn't a huge bidding war for him. Yes.

Speaker 71 And so I think in the NFL, we get that even quicker, like Titans Julio Jones, right? Where it's like, oh my God, someone's getting a stud. And it's like, well, not really.

Speaker 71 League moves on from these these guys pretty quickly and keenan allen is is firmly in that zone right now but we're getting like daily updates on him jaja van clowny's played his entire career

Speaker 71 yeah yeah he's really figured it out that man loves to travel where where is he right now uh i thought the the ex he was on uh carolina i think he's afraid right now

Speaker 71 i think he's just waiting he's just skipping carolina then he went to baltimore wait so do you you don't think the bears are a playoff team no i think they might be oh okay domini foxbury thinks they're gonna win the division okay i'm not i think the packers are very good i i'm picking the packers yeah i But I think the Bears can make the playoffs.

Speaker 71 I think Ben Johnson's really good. I think we already discussed all the upgrades.
Like, Roma Dunze is really good. Yeah, it's just Caleb.

Speaker 4 He's got to be good. Plus Caleb.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 71 And I think that he was so bad last year when he held on to the ball.

Speaker 33 That's the big thing.

Speaker 69 He's got to know when to quit playing.

Speaker 55 I have a theory.

Speaker 69 I don't want to

Speaker 71 go into generational warfare here.

Speaker 85 No, I like this.

Speaker 56 I like where we're going. Yeah.

Speaker 71 I think young quarterbacks hold on to the ball too long because they were never punished when when they were in high school.

Speaker 71 Like if you were like born in 1985, you were playing on like concrete and then a little turf over it.

Speaker 71 And if you held onto the ball too long, you were legally allowed to be like get a tombstone into the concrete. That was what happened when you held onto the ball too long in the 90s.

Speaker 71 And now the way the quarterbacks develop, like they're playing seven and seven all the time and they're playing high school where you can't hit the quarterback and then college where it's all the spread stuff, you get rid of the ball quickly.

Speaker 71 And so they get to the NFL and they just hold on the ball forever because they've never been punished.

Speaker 71 Where it's like, if you were 10 years ago, you just had to get rid of the ball or else you would die. Yeah.
Existential thing.

Speaker 71 And now you've got this whole generation of quarterbacks who are like, I'm just going to pat the ball and just see what happens.

Speaker 4 I also think you could throw in like, you know, Madden playing Madden, where you can just drift backwards.

Speaker 98 You know what I mean? Yes.

Speaker 35 And it's like, that's not how real world works in the NFL.

Speaker 4 But like, if you play Madden, you can just be like, I'm not even going to care about a pocket.

Speaker 23 I'm just going to drift back.

Speaker 71 In NCAA, all I do is just roll to the right, wait for a crosser to open up, and a 25-yard chunk plays.

Speaker 37 That's had like five broken ribs by the time he gets out of high school.

Speaker 11 Maybe his dad didn't let him play video game.

Speaker 53 Yeah, maybe there's like a European thing.

Speaker 71 Like, you know how Euroball, they say the fundamentals are better? Like, is there like a like an Austrian league where they're just punishing people?

Speaker 33 Just killing the quarterbacks.

Speaker 37 I feel like that does still happen down south a little bit.

Speaker 71 A little bit, yeah, probably. Yeah, but we should just maybe don't get a California quarterback.

Speaker 56 Don't get a California.

Speaker 37 Do not look up where Jaden Daniels is from.

Speaker 71 Or

Speaker 71 Caleb's from D.C.

Speaker 37 D.C., but then, yeah, California.

Speaker 37 He's like an honorary California.

Speaker 102 Where should they be from?

Speaker 71 Arkansas?

Speaker 93 I think Louisiana.

Speaker 94 I would say Western PA, too.

Speaker 37 Alabama and Ohio.

Speaker 74 Ohio. Ohio quarterbacks.

Speaker 85 Ohio quarterbacks.

Speaker 66 I feel like Ohio quarterbacks took a lot of points.

Speaker 71 Burrow looks like he's taken hits in high school.

Speaker 55 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 90 All right, so what other teams?

Speaker 5 What teams are going to surprise us not in the playoffs last year?

Speaker 71 Like you're high on the. I mentioned the Broncos earlier.
I think they're a Super Bowl contender. Yep.
I think they're a division contender.

Speaker 37 Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 71 I think they're amazing.

Speaker 96 I love it.

Speaker 71 I think they're amazing.

Speaker 71 I'm a believer in Bro nicks i'm a believer defensive player of the year candidates last year the bone's thing to me like it makes total sense last year in college football there were six pretty good quarterbacks because the covet year let everybody find their quarterback destiny right that's the cam ward story too it's like they they he kept transferring until he was number one overall pick same thing happened there's a reason there were six really good quarterbacks in the draft last year is because these guys had five years to figure it out and so bow nicks to me the fact that he found a home in oregon and then he played a million snaps he played like a thousand more snaps than jj McCarthy did.

Speaker 71 It's funny that the worst quarterback in the draft class two years ago was the guy who went three and out, it was just your quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 71 So maybe playing a lot of football matters. Maybe that's a thing.
It does.

Speaker 71 But no, I think the Broncos are amazing. They have one of the five best rosters in football.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 37 What about the Lions? We were just in that division. Yeah.
Is there a reason to panic based off the Hall of Fame game?

Speaker 71 We take a lot.

Speaker 71 I did see the aggregators be like major aggression years. Yeah.

Speaker 71 No, there's no, there's no, the roster is so good it's just so stacked that's the best way to like there's a anecdote in seth wickersham's book about about the patriots where after the patriots lost romeo crinel and charlie weiss that somebody was on the field and they were talking to another coach and they were like man this is going to be a weird year and the guy was like it's all bill like it's all bill don't don't don't sweat it and i think that some of these teams like dan campbell i have another theory this is dan campbell is so jacked that people think he's not an offensive coach yeah like he doesn't look like mike mcdaniels Yeah, you assume

Speaker 37 he's like a defensive guru.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 71 Yeah, but he played tight end. Like he, he's the one that nurtured Ben Johnson from an assistant tight ends coach in Miami to an offensive coordinator in Detroit.
So

Speaker 71 the other thing about Dan, he told me once, like, he's the perfect mix of

Speaker 71 gut feel and analytics and how they dovetail sometimes.

Speaker 71 So he told me that the reason he goes for it and a fourth down so much is that when he was with Sean Payton, who's analytically minded, that he would see how freaking scared the defense was

Speaker 71 when he would go for it. And he was like, I want to do that.
Like, that's what I want. I want like to see defensive coordinators like pissing themselves, basically.
Yeah.

Speaker 71 Because we're going forward on fourth and four and taking a shot. Like not, they're not running the tushbush.
They're like trying to go 30 yards down the field. No shots at the tush push.

Speaker 71 But I just think that Dan Campbell is just so unique. And he's really become, because of Ben Johnson, really become underrated.

Speaker 71 Like he had the, he authored the best culture change I've ever seen in football. Yeah.
Ever. Like the Lions were a joke for 40 years.
And he understood exactly what that franchise needed.

Speaker 71 He wanted the job. Like he was tearing up in our interview his first year because he was talking about he was a player there during the financial crisis in 08 and how hard Detroit got hit.

Speaker 71 And he was like, I wanted all of Detroit to know I feel their pain. And I don't think there's ever been a better story than that in coaching.

Speaker 71 And yet, four years later, we're like, Can Dan Campbell really do this? It's a joke. It's a joke.
Like, Dan Campbell's going to do it.

Speaker 4 The only thing I'll say about the Lions is, doesn't it feel like last year was such a everything was set up perfectly?

Speaker 53 And they got hurt.

Speaker 4 And then the kind of air comes out of the balloon a little bit.

Speaker 40 Like, they're still very good,

Speaker 29 but that's just kind of how the league works, where it's, you know,

Speaker 1 last year was the year. Like, that was the year.
They had the home field advantage.

Speaker 4 They won 15 games, all these things.

Speaker 12 And then...

Speaker 4 To get back up off the mat, you get the brain drain.

Speaker 71 I think a lot of it goes to Aiden Hutchinson's health. If he comes back.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was going to be the defensive player of the year.

Speaker 71 Bro, he was like top 10 in pressures in like December. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We always would just update it. It'd be like in week 15, we'd be like, oh, Aiden Hutchinson's still number four.

Speaker 37 He had an MVP case that he was making.

Speaker 53 He really did.

Speaker 71 He really did. And it's part of it.
I always think that they should give retroactive Coach of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year awards.

Speaker 71 I remember there was a year where Earl Thomas went out. And the Seahawks just forgot to play football.

Speaker 71 And it's like, we should just go ahead and start giving DPOIs to Earl Thomas because you see it right there.

Speaker 71 Like Mike Tomlin should get like four coach of the years for the Antonio Brown L'And Bell years. Like just more.
Just give him more.

Speaker 71 He should be awarded five years after the fact or there should be two awards. Yeah.
Like the retroactive coach of the year. But like Hutchinson, same deal.

Speaker 71 Like you should have given him DPOI because you saw what happened when he went out.

Speaker 37 Yeah, it's totally different. I think the Jets fans are very excited because they've got a new coach from that system.
Bears fans, obviously excited because they got that.

Speaker 37 But we've always said about Dan Gamble that the smartest thing that he's done is make people think that he's stupid. Yes.

Speaker 37 Like throwing out all the meathead stuff that's, and I do think he's like a significant part meathead. I think he's probably like 50% meathead.

Speaker 37 But he's also very smart and he loves to be underestimated by people.

Speaker 37 So when he goes on podcast and he's like, yeah, I'm thinking about getting a lion on the sidelines, then that's good because now people are like, look at this clown. And he's like behind the scenes.

Speaker 37 Actually, if you look at the numbers of when he goes for it, that dude absolutely knows the analytics through and through because he follows it to a T. Yes.
I think he's a very smart guy.

Speaker 1 And he's going to get the reverse of what I just said, you know, the year, last year was their year and all that. He just gets to play chip on the shoulder.

Speaker 80 He's probably people are doubting him.

Speaker 48 You know, like it, that is a big thing.

Speaker 71 I'm going there in two days. So it'd be great if by the time I'm there, he's already clipped this and has it.
And so then the player's going to chip on the shoulder.

Speaker 53 Yeah, chip on the shoulder. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 71 Last year was the year.

Speaker 35 Well, we're massive, Dan Campbell.

Speaker 64 Well, do you want to trip it right now?

Speaker 71 So last year, let's just say you last year was the year. Last year was the year.

Speaker 71 So 2025,

Speaker 71 uh you think they have no chance yeah i mean you they missed their window it's standard

Speaker 37 he was such a good story and you know it all fell apart and he lost all he lost his boy geniuses yeah yeah karen glenn boy geniuses yeah it's it's sad it's actually shocking that dan campbell can even like get find the find the facility every day find his without his boy geniuses yeah yeah

Speaker 37 they were putting the address in the gps every single day yeah yeah ben johnson was sitting shotgun i'm like gonna take a left here dan you see the hall of fame game it was it was terrible bad offensive line play, right.

Speaker 71 I will say this. He did a linebacker returning kicks, which I don't know about that one.

Speaker 1 That was freaky with it.

Speaker 53 Yeah, that was just freaky.

Speaker 22 I was like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 36 That was the one thing.

Speaker 19 You can clip that damn.

Speaker 113 Like, that was our line.

Speaker 61 I don't know about that one. All right.

Speaker 94 Are there other teams that you're high on that we're not looking at?

Speaker 1 Because, you know, like, I think the AFC, you obviously could say Chiefs, the Ravens, the Bills.

Speaker 8 You like the Broncos a lot.

Speaker 113 I love the Broncos.

Speaker 71 But, like, who's another one? You know who I think is going to be pretty good? Is the Tennessee Titans?

Speaker 53 Oh.

Speaker 40 I think Cam Warrior. Now, that has no

Speaker 28 completely unbiased. We want this on the record, completely unbiased.

Speaker 2 I think Evan Clark is not one of those psycho Miami fans that says they're back every single year.

Speaker 71 They won 10 games this year. They won 10 games.

Speaker 55 Okay.

Speaker 61 In the ACC.

Speaker 55 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 71 Syracuse.

Speaker 64 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 92 We're playing a lot.

Speaker 53 We play in a big boy league. And we also

Speaker 53 got your fucking quarterback who's stunk.

Speaker 28 Wait, wait, you're on my fault.

Speaker 37 You're suing Miami. Wisconsin is tampering.

Speaker 19 Miami was tampering.

Speaker 71 Yeah, we were the first. We invented the trip.

Speaker 64 I was tampering six months ago.

Speaker 71 They were tampering.

Speaker 34 Miami's never tampered.

Speaker 71 Hey, I have a question. Why, when Tanner Mordecai wasn't in the portal, was it reported he was going to Wisconsin a couple years ago?

Speaker 53 I don't understand. I don't know the portal, dude.

Speaker 59 You fucking figured it out.

Speaker 4 You're a Geek Squad guy.

Speaker 35 Go back to the Titans.

Speaker 71 So

Speaker 71 I will say this. The Syracuse game was the worst thing that's ever happened to me, like in life.
I've thought about it. It was the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

Speaker 90 Okay, that's a pretty good life. Yeah, no, I've thought about that too.

Speaker 71 How lucky am I? There's a thing I talked about. Pretty good life.
The thing I think about every day in the shower is like we blew a 21.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just delayed when you were going to get your ass kicked.

Speaker 71 Yeah, Yeah, but it would have nice. It would have been.

Speaker 11 No, I agree.

Speaker 5 It's about the ride in college football, especially.

Speaker 1 It's taking it to the playoff is cool.

Speaker 9 All that stuff.

Speaker 71 I have a thing real quick about, so I had my son there, and like there were two things about it.

Speaker 71 Number one is I knew we were going to lose when my son, who loves sports, put his hands over his ears during a big third down. I was like, the kids fucking rattled.
Yeah, we're done.

Speaker 71 He's like so happy and he's like, he's choking. He's choking stadium pulse.

Speaker 28 He's choking off the kids' head.

Speaker 71 My son literally was choking because of the stadium pulse at the carrier dome.

Speaker 71 But then the other thing is, when the game ended, my wife was like looking at me like, if he expires right now, like if he hits the eject button, like you're, he'd been for a four-hour game.

Speaker 71 So as soon as Miami loses, I pick him up and I

Speaker 71 run out and we get him in the car and he falls asleep. I'm feeling amazing and we start driving back.
And then it doesn't hit me how awful the loss was for like a week.

Speaker 71 Like literally, because I'm just, my win was me getting him in the car seat, right?

Speaker 71 So my new theory on this is that you should just be able to rent kids for high leverage games.

Speaker 57 Okay.

Speaker 71 And And then that's, you just take care of them, and that way you're not that focused on potential catastrophic.

Speaker 71 Like if the Bills make the Super Bowl, we need like a station of kids

Speaker 71 where it's like, hey, you actually have to watch this kid the entire game. Yeah.
You feel fulfilled in some way. I like that.

Speaker 71 And then you don't, you know, if the Bills lose, we can, we can go from there.

Speaker 37 It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 71 Yeah, no, it's good. But Cam Ward.

Speaker 53 Oh, yeah, Cam Ward.

Speaker 37 But he said the offense was mid.

Speaker 71 Yeah, but that's his thing. That's his thing.
He's like. Are you mid? Well, no, so Brandon was just talking about.
It's a pretty cool cool thing, I'll be honest.

Speaker 37 Like, being a mid-quarterback is a great life.

Speaker 39 It is. So

Speaker 71 there's two types of we suck. There's like the Joe Burrow, like, Joe Burrow a couple years ago was like, this is terrible.
And Jamar Chase, like, I can't catch the ball.

Speaker 71 And then they made the Super Bowl that year. And then there's like the we actually suck thing.
And you have to be able to tell the difference between the two. Like,

Speaker 71 there's some places where, you know, like, if Kellen Moore was like, this Saints team sucks, you'd be like, okay.

Speaker 53 Oh, no.

Speaker 71 But if, like, if, if, if Baker Mayfield says it, it's like, no,

Speaker 71 they're just in the process, right? That Buck seems really good. So, with Cam Moore, I think it's an expectation thing.
He knows how to run.

Speaker 71 Like, the stories that came out of Miami last year were unbelievable. Like, just from August.
He's a culture changer. He makes everybody better.

Speaker 90 He is so calm.

Speaker 71 He's almost too calm in the pocket.

Speaker 71 Yeah, he's standing flat-footed half the time. Yeah, and just like throwing those little pants.

Speaker 71 Like, I have a story. I have a friend who was on the sideline for the Gator game.

Speaker 71 And

Speaker 71 the first drive of that game, they were, it was a touchdown to Cam McCormick, the 27-year-old. And

Speaker 71 he scored, and it was 7-0. It was like 12 minutes to go in the game.
And one of the offensive coaches walked up to my buddy and was like, this game's over. And he's like, what do you mean?

Speaker 71 He's like, there's 90,000 people here. The calmest guy in the stadium.
is the Miami quarterback. Like, he's the only one whose hands aren't shaking.

Speaker 71 He's the only one who's not doing stadium pull shit. Like, he was just, it was the swamp.
It was August 31st.

Speaker 71 31st and he was it was like he was in his living room just pouring coffee right and i think that that translates to the nfl level he's not going to be rattled i think hopefully calvin ridley's healthy enough i don't know if his restrepo is going to make the team we'll see how that goes but like i just think that like steve young said this one time about mahomes i think about it all the time where everybody gives him the credit for the Superman stuff, but nobody gives Mahomes the credit for the Clark Kent stuff.

Speaker 71 And Cam Moore can do both those things.

Speaker 71 He can just fire it into a tight end, or he can just run back and forth for five seconds until, as the aforementioned video game thing, someone comes open-armed. Right, right.

Speaker 71 So, like, I think he's going to be immediately good. Okay.
What do you think about the Panthers this year?

Speaker 37 Are we crazy to talk about the Panthers?

Speaker 64 Decent.

Speaker 37 We think they might go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 71 That might be crazy.

Speaker 37 If you look at stats, they play.

Speaker 108 The stats do say they're going to go to Super Bowl.

Speaker 37 They play every time they've played Jacksonville in opening week, I think.

Speaker 5 Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 37 They've gone to the Super Bowl. And also every year that Jennifer Lopez gets a divorce, they go to the Super Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 That's numbers never lie.

Speaker 71 That's rock solid.

Speaker 83 Bernan Atlantic podcast.

Speaker 37 I do think that

Speaker 37 Bryce Young, he's gotten better. He was great last year for the second half.

Speaker 61 Or better. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 71 He was. No, he was.
He wasn't. Is that like the Caleb Williams cope? Is that

Speaker 71 he'll get better in his second year?

Speaker 101 Yeah, I mean, Bryce Young looks good.

Speaker 71 Yeah, Dave Canalis is really good. I need easy answers, and I think that there's like the defense can be okay.
Like, Dan Morgan, I think Dan Morgan's got a little Dan Campbell in him.

Speaker 71 And they like he gets up there and he's like, we just want dogs, man. We just want dogs.
But then you talk to him and it's like, oh, he actually gets it.

Speaker 71 There's a public persona and a private persona. Like he understands it.
And they have an analytics department that's really robust. So I'm like long on them.
It seems like David Tepper

Speaker 71 has kind of figured out how to trust his people now. So I don't think it's crazy that they're going to be good.
I do think it's a little crazy.

Speaker 71 Understanding the Jennifer Lopez thing.

Speaker 37 I also left out the data point. It's also the year after the Ohio State Buckeyes win the championship and they play Jacksonville week one and Jennifer Lopez gets a divorce.

Speaker 37 That's all happening this year. So the stars are truly lying for Carolina.

Speaker 71 That's a good thought.

Speaker 37 And with David Tepper, he is in the phase of new owners. I love watching owners figure out how leagues work.

Speaker 37 This is the phase where he's like, I have to be able to trust my football guys and not meddle. And then once things start to go bad, then he's going to start meddling again.

Speaker 37 And then two years from then, he'll be like, I've learned that I need to trust my guys and let them do their jobs.

Speaker 71 So I think there's three types of owners. There's owners owners that know how to win and want to win.
There's owners that don't know how to win and want to win.

Speaker 71 And then there's owners that don't care either way. And I think that the don't care either way

Speaker 71 is not don't care either way, but like if they win, it's incidental. They're never like, I'm going to die if we don't win 10 games.

Speaker 22 It's a lot of the inheritance owners.

Speaker 71 A lot of them, well, they don't, they're not cash. Right, exactly.

Speaker 90 They're like, hey, we got a good thing going. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If we get lightning in a bottle and go to the playoffs, right?

Speaker 71 But they're not going to like,

Speaker 71 they're not going to move heaven and earth to win 14 games, which I think some of the new owners are. But I also think they don't know how to win.

Speaker 71 Like, I think there are some owners, like, Tepper is one of them.

Speaker 71 If he didn't want to win, he wouldn't fire people all the time. He would just be like, ah, Matt Rule, that's fine.
We'll just let you do your contract and figure it out later. Like, he wants to win.

Speaker 71 Yeah. He doesn't know how to.
So then it's like, all right, hire Dan Morgan and Brantillas and Dave Canalis, and then just you guys do this, which is the best way to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 37 What about the New England Patriots? Are you high on them?

Speaker 71 I mean, I'm high on Vrabel as

Speaker 71 an entity. Yeah.

Speaker 71 I think think they still have a ways to go like i think that the funny thing like i thought drake may was really good and i i was really impressed with him um coming in and i thought that that what he showed last year like with his legs with just like being under assault like he he had the worst offensive line of football and he still showed something which you can't say about caleb williams and so i i was i was hugely impressed and i think that like have you guys met him before

Speaker 71 drake may uh no okay i don't think so he's like he's got the right he's got to get a franchise quarterback attitude he He also told me it's important.

Speaker 71 Phillip Rivers trains him, and he said that Phillip Rivers beats him in throwing contests all the time. So Philip still got it.

Speaker 37 So I think that I'm mad at Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 37 I'm mad at Kyle Shanahan for leaking the story that if they had made the Super Bowl and they had no quarterback, that he would have called Phillip Rivers out of retirement to play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 37 I'm mad at him for saying that out loud because that's all I think about is how awesome that would have been

Speaker 37 to put Phillip Rivers in there last minute.

Speaker 74 How long

Speaker 71 do you think we have where that would be a viable option for Phil Rivers? For Phillip Rivers? Like, would you do it this year?

Speaker 18 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 37 If you make the Super Bowl and you're missing a quarterback, I still think you can follow up Brett Favre.

Speaker 37 Just get him out there. Just one more time.

Speaker 71 I think Favre might be tough.

Speaker 69 Might be. All right.

Speaker 1 Since we talked about some of the teams, it will surprise us.

Speaker 10 Who is going to have the number one pick next year?

Speaker 66 Who's the worst team in the NFL?

Speaker 85 It's the Saints.

Speaker 71 Saints? Probably. I just don't see a path to them winning.
The only thing about the Saints is that

Speaker 71 they really like winning games. Right.
They really like winning games. And so if they get the first overall pick, it's going to be accidental.
Okay. It's going to be accidental.

Speaker 71 They're going to try to win games into December. Like, the heartbeat of

Speaker 71 the franchise, like, the heartbeat of the city is through the franchise. So I don't think they can be like, hey, let's be one and 16 this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 71 I don't, I think the Giants are going to win enough games.

Speaker 71 I mean, the Saints are by far the worst team.

Speaker 108 What about

Speaker 1 I think Rodgers is going to be better than people think.

Speaker 31 And I think the Steelers are going to be slightly better than people think.

Speaker 19 Exactly.

Speaker 71 I think they're going to win like nine to ten games.

Speaker 5 Well, that's about that's that's exactly what people think.

Speaker 64 That's exactly what people think.

Speaker 53 Winning record by Tom Warren. Yeah.

Speaker 71 So you think it's like 12, 13?

Speaker 1 Maybe 11, 12. I just think Rodgers, I think he has, he's got the sufficient chip on his shoulder again, where it's like everyone was like, this guy should retire.

Speaker 4 He stinks.

Speaker 32 The Jets, the Jets saying to him, like, we do not want you, will make Aaron Rodgers good again.

Speaker 71 But why wasn't he good? Green Bay said, we don't want you.

Speaker 2 Well, no, but he also didn't want Green Bay a little bit.

Speaker 1 He was, though. They drafted Jordan Love.

Speaker 29 He wanted an MVP.

Speaker 50 Right. So they basically were, hey, we got a good one.

Speaker 71 They waited until they were done with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, but he was bad.

Speaker 69 They drafted Jordan Love. He got good again.

Speaker 30 So, like, he needs that little, hey, you stink enough of the doubters.

Speaker 9 And then obviously the Achilles.

Speaker 71 This is like a renewable resource. He can keep doing this forever.
Correct. And obviously,

Speaker 57 I do think think the Achilles, like, you know, obviously was such bullshit when he was like, I'm going to be back this year.

Speaker 1 I think Achilles at that, we saw it with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 23 Like, it's probably more of like a 18-month, 24-month injury for a guy on the wrong side of 30.

Speaker 46 Right. So, I don't know.

Speaker 40 I just, I feel like he's got one more year in him

Speaker 9 because he's just the boogeyman that never dies.

Speaker 1 And then the Steelers do have a good defense, and they just haven't had competent quarterback play in the last five years.

Speaker 71 He changed the way he played last year. He was, I think it was one of the shortest depth of targets he's ever had.

Speaker 71 He had a quick release. He was

Speaker 71 getting rid of the ball really quickly.

Speaker 71 And so I think he's a different guy than he was during his MVP years, obviously, but I don't think he's going to sit stand back there and just wait for magic to happen.

Speaker 71 So I think that the ceiling is a little lower, but the floor is high. He knows where to put the ball.

Speaker 71 We've seen that before with older quarterbacks. They know how to put where to put the ball.

Speaker 1 And his arm is still good. Like, I do think his arm is still good.

Speaker 15 I think it's the mobility that's.

Speaker 71 Right, but what is it? Without mobility,

Speaker 71 you go from MVP to just pretty good. So I think he's going to be like the 15th best quarterback in their win 10 games.

Speaker 37 15th best would be good for the Steelers. Yeah.

Speaker 108 They haven't had the 15th best quarterback in a long time.

Speaker 37 Better question is, are they going to win a playoff game?

Speaker 93 No.

Speaker 82 Okay.

Speaker 37 No way. So make the playoffs, rinse and repeat.

Speaker 71 Same shit. Same deal, but with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 112 Okay. All right.
What about week one?

Speaker 37 Is Kirk Cousins an Atlanta Falcon?

Speaker 71 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 71 I don't know what they're doing. So, like.

Speaker 71 The Falcons, to me,

Speaker 71 seem to be

Speaker 71 the premise of their entire organization is that Michael Penix is the best quarterback of all time.

Speaker 71 Like, he's the guy that's like, well, we got to draft a quarterback, even though we signed a guy with like $60 million of guarantees. We got to trade up a first-round pick next year for James Pierce.

Speaker 71 The whole thing is like, the whole boat or the whole, the whole plane is made out of Michael Penix, right? And so

Speaker 71 I don't understand a lot of what they've done over the past.

Speaker 71 18 months,

Speaker 71 but

Speaker 71 they said that Kirk Cousins is going to be a backup, and I kind of believe them. Like, they gave him the roster bonus.
They're really committed to the bit. They're really committed.

Speaker 71 They gave him like a huge roster bonus, paying him all this money.

Speaker 71 Nobody believed them that he was going to be the backup, but then they keep putting their money where their mouth is, and he's the backup.

Speaker 55 Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 37 It's the entire premise.

Speaker 37 It's a house of cards, and it's built on the only way you operate in that scenario where you draft Michael Pinix in the top 10 is if you truly believe he's the best quarterback that's in like the next three or four drafts.

Speaker 37 Yes.

Speaker 55 And they did it.

Speaker 71 They did it.

Speaker 37 And I don't know if he is. That's the thing.

Speaker 64 I don't know. I don't,

Speaker 102 but he might be. That's the thing.
I just don't know.

Speaker 37 He played like three games. What would you want to see from Michael Pennix this year to be like the Falcons did the right thing? I'm an idiot.

Speaker 71 So a couple people have said he's like an elite deep passer. I mean, we saw that at Washington, right?

Speaker 71 But like, I would like to see just like huge chunk plays this year, just a proof of concept.

Speaker 71 I saw that their offensive coordinator studying 2023 Washington liked to see the offense a little bit more because it was really, really fun.

Speaker 71 I'll just throw it up to Roma Dunze and good things were happening And Jalen Polk and Jalen McMillan and all those guys. Like, that was really fun.

Speaker 71 So, I could do, like, spread it out, just throw the ball down the field. Bijan, Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 59 I said, unlock Kyle Pitts. Yeah,

Speaker 37 if Kyle Pitts gets unlocked. 12 touchdowns this year.
I'd say good choice with Michael Pennix.

Speaker 37 That's what it finally took.

Speaker 71 I'm taking the under. I'd agree with that.

Speaker 42 All right.

Speaker 66 I got one last question.

Speaker 5 It's been awesome, Kevin.

Speaker 88 We'll definitely have you back on during the season.

Speaker 62 Everyone, check. You're all over the place.

Speaker 29 Do you have any big, big things coming up?

Speaker 4 So you obviously, if you're showing up.

Speaker 71 The Omaha thing, thing,

Speaker 71 that'll be on ESPN2 and ESPN News all

Speaker 71 season.

Speaker 71 We don't have any big things coming up. Not really.

Speaker 90 It's going to be on GetUp.

Speaker 71 GetUp, first take, NFL Live, probably

Speaker 71 going forward.

Speaker 71 And that's basically it. I don't have much to plug.
This is football, rigging for your pods, and it's on TV and all that stuff. Omaha production.
I love it.

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Speaker 71 All right. So

Speaker 71 I've been saying all offseason, it's going to be Ravens, Rams.

Speaker 53 Okay.

Speaker 71 Ravens beat the Rams. Ravens beat the Rams.
My concern is Matthew Stafford's back.

Speaker 71 Week to week is not what I want to hear. No.
That's not what I want to hear. No.

Speaker 71 So

Speaker 71 with the caveat that if Stafford's back isn't healthy, I would go with the Eagles. Okay.

Speaker 71 I'm sure that's a cop out, but like, we can't be doing week to week. He's only, you know, he's 37 or whatever.
Right.

Speaker 71 So there's that. Championship game, go Rams, Eagles.

Speaker 71 Commanders are really good. I want to pick them.
I just can't. Sorry, buddy.
No, I hear you. And then Bears, I'm not.
I'm not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 55 No, I didn't expect you.

Speaker 71 AFC,

Speaker 71 I'm going to go Ravens-Bills. Okay.
Just a classic.

Speaker 37 I was going to say Bronx. Just a classic.

Speaker 71 That's another. The Ravens-Bills would be a rent-a-kid situation.

Speaker 10 Oh, man.

Speaker 64 Seriously.

Speaker 5 Seriously. Well, I'm excited because football is about to be back.

Speaker 53 So I love it. There's nothing better.

Speaker 23 Oh, give us a win total for the Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 71 Two losses. So they open with Notre Dame.
Then they have Florida on the third or fourth week of the season, fourth week of the season. They'll split those.

Speaker 78 And then they got the ACC.

Speaker 71 They got the ACC.

Speaker 71 Two November games on the road at Pitt and at Virginia Tech. Pat Narduzzi would love nothing more than just an annoying four-turnover, a couple fumbles, probably a night game in Pitt.

Speaker 71 I'll probably be there. My son's probably rattled as hell.
Like,

Speaker 71 I could see that being the second loss. Okay.
Yeah, Stephen A.

Speaker 37 Smith is going to be shocked week one when you're like, I'm actually on the convicts.

Speaker 100 All right.

Speaker 29 Well, Kevin, awesome time having you here.

Speaker 4 Thanks for coming in.

Speaker 5 Good luck on the rest of the trip.

Speaker 4 And let Dan Campbell know, like, give him the chip.

Speaker 53 I will. Here you go.

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Speaker 37 And now, here is AJ Brown.

Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, Super Bowl champion,

Speaker 63 two-time all-pro.

Speaker 88 It is AJ Brown from the three-time all-pro.

Speaker 63 My bad.

Speaker 102 Already bad.

Speaker 63 I thought it was three Pro Bowls, two-time all-pro, three-time all-pro, Super Bowl champion, AJ Brown from the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 62 It is our grit week presented by Hey Dudes.

Speaker 32 We start every interview the same. What does the word grit mean to you?

Speaker 117 It's pushing past

Speaker 53 a point where

Speaker 117 you, your brain, or anyone else thinks you you can go.

Speaker 59 I like that.

Speaker 49 I like that.

Speaker 30 Have you had that?

Speaker 23 How often does that come up in an NFL season where you're like, I'm at the limit right now, but I got to dig deep and go past that?

Speaker 117 A few times late in the season, especially when your body

Speaker 117 doesn't want to respond the way you want it to. And you just

Speaker 117 keep going. You just, you know, just find a way to, you know, to get through it.
Yeah. And believe it or not, those are some of my best days.

Speaker 21 Really? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 37 What's an example of that?

Speaker 117 Playing hurt the back half of the season. Get my knee drained

Speaker 117 twice a week. Get my knee drained right before the game.
Washing the game. Go out there and have a good performance.

Speaker 117 Then the following week, the following week, the following week. And shoot, even the Super Bowl, right before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 37 How you feel now? Ready to go. Pretty good.
Is camp hard?

Speaker 45 Absolutely.

Speaker 37 Does it get any easier?

Speaker 53 I don't know, man.

Speaker 117 I don't don't know. You know,

Speaker 117 we had some tough, like the past two days were very, very tough. You know, you know, Nick always say it takes what it takes.

Speaker 117 You know, us joking with him is like saying, it's going to take all of us out. You keep on going at this rate.

Speaker 117 But it's.

Speaker 117 It's been tough, though. It's cool, though.

Speaker 101 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 101 By the way,

Speaker 78 I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a good thing for you.

Speaker 32 Have you seen the completion of the trade from Tennessee to Philadelphia? It might be the best trade the Eagles have ever made and because they got you and everything you've done.

Speaker 1 Does that feel at least good to be in like,

Speaker 50 they took a chance on me, they got me, and I basically overperformed to like an insane level in terms of the return?

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 117 you know, I'm grateful that happened. And

Speaker 117 I like to say like, you know, I grew that situation in Tennessee. You know, I'm glad this happened because I feel like I was meant to shine.

Speaker 117 And this, we needed a big team with a big market, you know, and I think this is the right place and the best fit for me.

Speaker 117 I am a little sad

Speaker 117 for Traylon Burks.

Speaker 117 I wish he could get healthy because he's a good kid. And I talked to him numerous of times.
I got his number. And it just sucks to see it go down like that.
Yeah. Yeah, but

Speaker 59 so.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Was there an adjustment period just living in Philadelphia, living in the Northeast for the first time?

Speaker 117 The weather. Yeah.
Honestly, the weather.

Speaker 117 You know, it gets really cold here. and uh

Speaker 117 i wish it was kind of cold now it's so hot outside

Speaker 117 outside you're from starkville right yeah from starkville okay but he went to ole miss yeah what was that like were people in starkville mad oh absolutely i was getting death threats really really yeah it was serious and i didn't really take it serious my dad you know uh took it very seriously but you know i was just kid just getting ready to play football and just kind of breast it off was it between the two it was between alabama and ole miss oh so mississippi state was never even in the rock.

Speaker 80 So they can't even be mad.

Speaker 117 Yeah, but they just expected me to go there. Right.
But when I closed out the recruiting, I remember telling Dan Mullen, saying, I don't want to,

Speaker 117 you no longer can recruit me. I don't want to, I'm not coming here.
And that's when it just kind of started to like, oh, shoot, like, look what we done. We done messed up.
And,

Speaker 117 shoot, long story short, you know, I had this, I had this challenger, white and white challenger with a red stripe. Everybody knew it was me.
I had the license plate 1K.

Speaker 117 And, shoot, I was getting followed.

Speaker 117 people taking pictures of my car posting online and i didn't even know it i'm aware of this and uh my dad was like oh this is serious yeah so so you're 17 years old and you're having people follow you around yeah in starkville damn that's messed up was it brandon walker brandon walker we might know who did that yeah we probably do we can probably get him arrested beat the out of him

Speaker 40 we know exactly who did it i got a dumb question for you but i feel like this

Speaker 32 had to have something to do with it how much was it the jersey uh colors to be like ole Ole Miss over Mississippi State or Alabama even?

Speaker 5 Mississippi State doesn't have the best jerseys.

Speaker 46 No, they don't.

Speaker 117 And they are Adidas, too. Yeah, I'm not an Adidas fan.

Speaker 96 Okay.

Speaker 117 I'm not throwing a shot at Adidas, but I'm not an Adidas fan. The Cleats.

Speaker 37 That's a shot at Adidas. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 53 That's fine.

Speaker 37 But let's be honest, I decided not to go to the school because of their shoes.

Speaker 1 But the colors just stay.

Speaker 117 I mean, I just, I would just prefer, you know, Nikes, you know, and, but I will tell you this, though. I didn't choose Georgia because I got recruited from Georgia.

Speaker 117 I didn't choose choose Georgia because I don't like wearing black socks.

Speaker 24 Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 that may be crazy, but I hate wearing black socks.

Speaker 48 No, I think people don't ever put in a 17-year-old.

Speaker 1 Obviously, there's, you know, whether you're being close to home or like the coaching staff, but I feel like, I mean, you played the game online, you played the video game, like jersey combinations do matter a little bit.

Speaker 55 It absolutely does.

Speaker 117 Because putting on black socks with black cleats is just so hideous. It's slow.

Speaker 113 It's so hideous. It's slow.

Speaker 117 Because when I put on white, I feel so fast. It's so smooth.

Speaker 65 It's just something about it what are your fastest cleats because it non-white cleats your fastest cleats because i have an answer i don't know if you have the same answer

Speaker 4 the fastest cleats uh i don't know something white it doesn't matter no you had these like uh neon green ones that looked so fast i literally i remember against tampa it might have been yeah i was just like this is the fastest anyone's ever looked the nfl said take those off okay yeah because you were too fast yeah that's exactly why they were like those cleats can't be legal did you used to play like nba jam when you you go turbo mode, your shoes glow?

Speaker 37 That's what they were. They're like, that's not allowed.

Speaker 37 So are you faster in Eagles' colors than you were in Titans' colors?

Speaker 117 I'm faster now, so you can say that.

Speaker 37 The colors have anything to do with it?

Speaker 117 No, because I did like the proud blue uniforms. I love that.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 61 Those are nice. Those are nice.

Speaker 32 Big story.

Speaker 31 Obviously, you guys win the Super Bowl, but one of the big stories for you this year was reading a book on the sideline, Inter Excellence.

Speaker 32 When that happened, were you like, this is insane insane that it's blown up like this and everyone's going crazy?

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 117 They came and talked to me in the locker room and said, hey, they got you on the sideline reading the book. And I'm like, okay, but I do it every week.
It's like, nah,

Speaker 117 this is big time, it's time. And

Speaker 117 it just blew up.

Speaker 59 And obviously,

Speaker 117 you know, I had great intentions behind it. I wasn't seeking attention or anything, but, you know, I'm glad it changed his life, you know, because

Speaker 117 from what we discussed,

Speaker 117 from just the hearing, just how the book, the sales started to go crazy, I'm happy that it changed someone's life.

Speaker 17 And you also have a literacy foundation, which is doing great work.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 57 tell me about that, because I got a pitch for you after that.

Speaker 117 I have so many ideas. I don't want to really get onto it.
We can talk about it after

Speaker 64 off cameras.

Speaker 32 But you're helping, you know, kids learn how to read.

Speaker 61 Absolutely.

Speaker 117 My foundation

Speaker 117 is based on mentorship and giving back and doing stuff like that.

Speaker 117 And that's something I'm proud of, too, because

Speaker 117 when I grew up, I didn't used to like to read. I didn't like to read.
And so as I got older, I started to learn more and

Speaker 117 to stop being on my phone so much because of social media, I feel like my brain fries. You know, I have to look at it for so long and it's like I'm looking at stupid stuff.

Speaker 117 You know, and I just wanted to push myself and educate myself in different areas in different ways.

Speaker 63 Okay. All right.
So here's my pitch.

Speaker 4 We're writing a book right now.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 17 10-year anniversary of this podcast coming out next year. What if you write a chapter in the book so there's less work for us?

Speaker 80 And then

Speaker 17 everyone in your literacy foundation has to read our books.

Speaker 50 You got to buy a lot of them, too.

Speaker 57 But you get to write a chapter.

Speaker 59 Thoughts?

Speaker 37 It's pretty good deal. Think about all the kids that are going to be reading.

Speaker 2 We might be a New York Times bestseller. You can then say you're a New York Times bestseller.

Speaker 59 Or, okay.

Speaker 117 I could just wait until my book comes out.

Speaker 61 That's what I am saying.

Speaker 59 I don't know.

Speaker 53 We'll write a chapter in your book. Yeah, we'll put a chapter in your book.

Speaker 59 Okay, but we'll do a house and home. All right, all right.

Speaker 21 Just like a home and home in college football.

Speaker 67 We want, we, you're going to come and you're going to do our book in 2026, and we'll do your book in like 2035.

Speaker 37 We'll go visit your place.

Speaker 64 My book is going to come out sooner.

Speaker 59 Okay, all right.

Speaker 112 When's your book coming out?

Speaker 117 I don't know yet, but it's way sooner than 2035.

Speaker 11 What's your book about?

Speaker 117 Myself. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 57 You can plagiarize plagiarize half our book if you need material.

Speaker 21 Once it's written, it's.

Speaker 20 I like the idea, though. Okay.

Speaker 53 All right. We can work out that.

Speaker 37 Do the kids want a chapter about Coach K in your book?

Speaker 60 Coach K? Yeah.

Speaker 64 They can take that chapter from us.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's a scumbag. That's what I'm going to write.

Speaker 53 All right.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 92 I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 59 All right.

Speaker 53 Are you reading anything right now?

Speaker 117 Am I reading it? Nothing other than the Bible right now. Okay.

Speaker 37 You like you're actually going through the Bible. Are you going in order?

Speaker 20 No.

Speaker 117 So I read the Gospels already, and I got this study Bible that I use. So I just read 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, and I'm in Galatians right now.

Speaker 117 So sometimes I reread books of the Bible, but you know, so.

Speaker 37 Are you a highlighter guy? Do you like see things?

Speaker 61 I do.

Speaker 37 And then you try to like

Speaker 37 take whatever you've highlighted, whether it's the Bible or you know what you read on the sideline, Inner Excellence, and then try to apply that in your day-to-day?

Speaker 117 Absolutely. That's something that highlighting always helped me, especially with the Bible.
But whenever I'm reading a book, it's just something that I always want to go back to.

Speaker 117 Like Inner Excellence, I had highlighted stuff that I just could flip to, and then it just sparked my interest. But reading the Bible, it's kind of, it's a little different.

Speaker 37 So with Inner Excellence in particular, was there something that you took from that book that you just straight up applied to how you go about your day-to-day?

Speaker 117 I applied it to my process on the field. Okay.
So, yeah.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 63 I don't think people talk enough about the fact that you got drafted in MLB as well.

Speaker 48 So were you ever thinking about like being a baseball player and do you miss it?

Speaker 117 I miss it at times.

Speaker 117 I watched a couple videos of me hitting the other day on my phone. Okay.
And just the sound of the bat, it's a different type of feeling.

Speaker 64 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 117 And

Speaker 117 I do miss it.

Speaker 117 Did I consider it

Speaker 117 when I was like seven to 18, seven years, 17 or 18 years old? Not so much because I started to fall in love with football.

Speaker 61 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 117 And it's just, football just took over. Yeah.

Speaker 66 Yeah. What position did you play?

Speaker 117 Center field. Okay.

Speaker 15 Oh, you must have had insane range. Yeah.

Speaker 50 And then how were you hitting your senior year, high school?

Speaker 20 I did really well.

Speaker 117 I bet it like above like 300. Okay.

Speaker 66 But it's high school, though.

Speaker 32 But it's still like impressive to be drafted into sports. That's not, you know, to be that good to be drafted out of high school in MLB and obviously be a high draft pick in the NFL.

Speaker 117 Yeah, and then I went to O Miss and I signed a contract, obviously, just for money reasons. With the MLB team.
With the MLB team.

Speaker 51 Who was it? The Padre.

Speaker 117 Okay. Yeah.
And

Speaker 117 got the signer bonus because it's there for me. Right.

Speaker 52 Why winning?

Speaker 64 Right.

Speaker 117 And so I did that and I went to Arizona for like rookie ball. And I'm out there practicing with the team and everything.
And I felt like I was the...

Speaker 117 The left one out, you know, and everybody speaks Spanish. I didn't speak Spanish.
I didn't know any Spanish. And

Speaker 117 the whole team, it was just,

Speaker 117 you know, more Dominicans and everything. So it was just, it was tough.
Yeah. It was tough.
And I was, I was ready to go.

Speaker 80 You're a young kid.

Speaker 53 Yeah, I was ready to go.

Speaker 78 And you fallen in love with football.

Speaker 117 I fall in love with football. I just wanted to get back to old miss as soon as I could.

Speaker 65 But it's cool that you actually tried it. Yeah.

Speaker 66 You know, because you got paid.

Speaker 53 Yeah. And I got paid.
Right.

Speaker 32 Because you feel if you never tried it, you'd probably there'd be a small part of you being like, Man, what if? What if I had tried that?

Speaker 37 Do you remember when you fell in love with football?

Speaker 95 Yes, I actually did.

Speaker 22 Was there a moment?

Speaker 90 Yep.

Speaker 37 What was that?

Speaker 117 I was playing against West Point my junior year. I had four catches for four touchdowns of 205 yards.
Every time I touched the ball scored. And

Speaker 117 that moment,

Speaker 117 joking about it with my father, because he would say, if Nick Sabin ever comes, like, you're going to Alabama, right?

Speaker 117 And we would always joke about it. And I was like, no, I'm not going to Alabama.
And he was like, well, I'm going to knock you out and you're going to wake up in Alabama.

Speaker 59 And

Speaker 117 long story short, Nick Saban came after that game. And that's when it was real for me.
And I was like, oh, I really can play this game. And my dad was like, you're going to Alabama.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 117 I said, I'm still not going to Alabama, but I'm going to pursue this football thing. Yeah.
And it just took off.

Speaker 21 Yeah. What was the final score of that game?

Speaker 84 I don't remember.

Speaker 32 But you beat him? Yeah, we beat him.

Speaker 5 Beat Westboy? Pretty bad.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Yeah. That's pretty good.

Speaker 37 That's where Brendan Walker, that guy that tried to follow you.

Speaker 21 That's also white beat. Who is this guy?

Speaker 53 Yeah, no, he probably followed you because he beat me.

Speaker 64 At West Point.

Speaker 37 He was double mad at you for that.

Speaker 5 I'm actually a booster at West Point.

Speaker 63 I helped fund their state championship.

Speaker 117 Is this a made-up character?

Speaker 59 No, he's real. Oh, he's too real.

Speaker 37 Trust me. I wish he was made-up sometimes.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 But now it all makes sense. Dots are coming.

Speaker 63 Do you have four touchdowns? Four touchdowns. Four touchdowns.
West Point's eye.

Speaker 68 And they call themselves Point City?

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 37 You were Point City enough.

Speaker 64 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 117 Damn. I'm going to look up this Brandon Walker.

Speaker 53 Don't, don't. Don't.

Speaker 61 You'll get put on on the list.

Speaker 107 We did ask Lane and Cam, and I'll ask you the same question.

Speaker 17 What week this year do you think Nick Siriani would be on the hot seat from the fan base?

Speaker 117 Obviously, I'm going to say we're going to win. Yeah.

Speaker 61 But you know, like one loss and guys like that right there are going to say.

Speaker 117 Somehow,

Speaker 22 somehow.

Speaker 117 Lose the first game of the season.

Speaker 109 It is up for Nick Sirian.

Speaker 59 You're not wrong. up.

Speaker 53 It is up. No boys.

Speaker 43 There will be a fan who will be like, I don't care that he just won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 117 They're going to call in to Wilp.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 117 And it's going to spark like a wildfire.

Speaker 39 He's a bomb.

Speaker 37 This guy's a frog.

Speaker 89 We're Super Bowl champion head coach.

Speaker 117 This place is so unique and it can be positive. And most importantly, it can be very negative so quickly.
Like someone can call into a radio show.

Speaker 117 and say the most bizarre thing and now all the pages on each on each platform who have big, very big platforms, and they're just going to run with it. And now it's a whole nother story.

Speaker 117 And then it gets to the national media, and then it's up. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Do they react when you go on Twitter and you put out

Speaker 37 some theories about how many days are in a year? Do you remember that?

Speaker 11 Because when you said this, I think I believe you.

Speaker 74 Okay.

Speaker 37 I think I believe you. You said the full year consists of 365.25 days.
These are then designated 12 calendar months. However, there are 13 lunar months of 28-day cycles, which are not titled.

Speaker 37 Each year, the 0.25 of a day is accumulated, making one full day every four years.

Speaker 37 This is designated as a leap year, and the X-ray is tacked on to the end of February, which normally has only 28 days.

Speaker 37 Remaining months, I mean, this is all real, all true. The remaining months are allocated either 30 or 31 days.

Speaker 37 I understand that if you were old enough to originate the question and are literate, you'll already know this and just like wasting time. Um, so how many days are any

Speaker 37 year?

Speaker 117 In my year, yeah. First of all, I did not tweet that.

Speaker 37 That was not you? Oh, no, who tweeted that?

Speaker 117 That's a that's I would never tweet that long.

Speaker 117 All right, but I do believe some of that stuff.

Speaker 64 Okay, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 59 I do believe some of that stuff.

Speaker 117 You know, I think time is relative, honestly. Yeah, uh,

Speaker 61 Einstein said that.

Speaker 79 I don't know.

Speaker 53 I don't.

Speaker 53 It's a safe space.

Speaker 117 It's not.

Speaker 59 I would pay a billion dollars.

Speaker 98 Whatever you say next is going to get clipped.

Speaker 24 Man.

Speaker 117 I'm the kid, honestly, because I know he's about to eat too. I'm the kid.

Speaker 117 As I grown up, I'm 28 years old now. I'll say like three or four years ago, maybe even before then, I started to question what's being taught to us.

Speaker 83 Right.

Speaker 117 And if you question what's being taught to us in today's world, you are crazy, something's wrong with you, whatever, right?

Speaker 117 But my question is, who put who in charge to teach us these things such as that's a black table?

Speaker 83 Right? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 37 And to me, that could be a white table.

Speaker 12 You'd be wrong.

Speaker 117 Well, how would I be wrong?

Speaker 37 That's your definition of black and white. Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what you need to do with your cleats. Hold on.

Speaker 59 Hold on.

Speaker 98 Dude, you got to tell Goodell these aren't neon green. They're white.
Listen, though.

Speaker 55 Listen, though.

Speaker 66 We've been taught, we go to school.

Speaker 117 They teach us. They put us in place and they teach us all these things, right?

Speaker 117 They teach us about history. They teach us about everything, right?

Speaker 117 Who put them in charge to say this is correct and we have to learn this?

Speaker 39 Right?

Speaker 101 like

Speaker 86 that may be red to me.

Speaker 80 I think you're colorblind. I'm not colorblind.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 113 I'm not colorblind, but I'm just using this as a no, healthy skepticism is a good thing, you know?

Speaker 66 Yeah, and so like

Speaker 117 all right, the moon landing.

Speaker 34 Yeah, let's talk about stuff like that, right?

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 39 I mean, we were in the middle of the Cold War.

Speaker 37 We had to beat Russia, right? Like, USSR, the evil empire.

Speaker 67 We had to flex our muscles.

Speaker 37 They put that sputnik up in the sky. We're like, fuck, we got to do something to just get in their heads.
Okay, Stanley Kubrick, I'm going to fly you out to Las Vegas. Let's film this shit.

Speaker 37 Think about this.

Speaker 95 Think about this. Well,

Speaker 65 we should have you back on because we could talk about all this stuff.

Speaker 53 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 21 30 years ago, Jeff Bezos, complete nerd.

Speaker 95 Bezos now ripped to shreds on his super yacht, and the boxes keep coming.

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Speaker 96 It ain't right.

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Speaker 99 Terms apply.

Speaker 17 This has been awesome, AJ. We really appreciate it.
A lot of fun. Zach, we've been telling him he's going to get a question all day.

Speaker 72 Zach, you got a question for AJ.

Speaker 77 I got a quick question if that's cool to you, man. After six seasons in the NFL,

Speaker 77 if you could, you know,

Speaker 77 working on yourself, growing as a player, not only as a player, but as a man, kind of gaining experience, if you could go back to draft night and give yourself one piece of advice, would you do that?

Speaker 77 And if so, like, what would it be?

Speaker 59 Oh, good question.

Speaker 90 I would tell

Speaker 117 myself

Speaker 117 to not be hard on myself,

Speaker 117 you know. Um,

Speaker 117 looking back,

Speaker 117 because I actually did this yesterday. Looking back, I was watching some videos of myself and watched some highlights, and everything I wanted when I was young, I have now.

Speaker 117 And the 28-year-old me wants more, right? Because I'm always searching for the next thing. But

Speaker 117 I would tell the younger me just to be present and enjoy each and every day.

Speaker 117 Each and every day. Because it's different seasons that I go through, that you're going to go through in this league.
And you have to learn to navigate through them.

Speaker 53 And

Speaker 117 I just wanted so much, so much, so much so soon. And sometimes I sped up that process by by overthinking too much and putting more pressure on myself.
But me now,

Speaker 117 I just want to have fun. I just want to enjoy the moment, enjoy my teammates, enjoy the process,

Speaker 117 and just have fun and make the most of every single opportunity. And I haven't got relaxed, but I'm just finding ways to be present in this moment, even like this interview.

Speaker 117 Just enjoying myself, being present. And so.

Speaker 79 Great question. That's great advice.

Speaker 37 I just think that the whole concept of like making it or

Speaker 37 finally getting there is it teaches us some of the wrong stuff sometimes. Yeah.
Like you always think, I'll be fine. I'm going to, once I make it,

Speaker 37 once I get this, then it's the finished level. And then that's, that's it.

Speaker 37 And then once you accomplish those goals you have for yourself, you realize, well, I still feel the same as I did before I got there.

Speaker 37 And that's when I think a lot of people start to realize, take joy in the process of getting there and just in everything that you do. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 16 right yeah well aj yeah this has been awesome man really appreciate it we'd love to have you back on anytime maybe getting some conspiracy theories yeah be fun let's talk about get a restraining order on brandon walker we can do it all let's talk about it uh best of luck this year man thank you thank y'all

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's finish up guys on chicks.

Speaker 53 Henry. Yes.

Speaker 85 Hey, I have a question. PFT.

Speaker 37 In the graphic that Memes tweeted out for this Guys on Chicks, who is that guy? Should I know that guy?

Speaker 33 That guy? Yeah. He was in a video at DJ's.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Okay.

Speaker 4 He's in a due variant. Okay.

Speaker 37 Got it. I was not familiar with this game.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 39 It's the Rizzler's uncle.

Speaker 59 Where

Speaker 64 would have been so?

Speaker 39 Washington. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 74 That was awesome.

Speaker 26 Hey, guys.

Speaker 39 I've listened to a lot of your podcasts in the car against my will. Parentheses, unnecessary parentheses.

Speaker 39 My boyfriend keeps peeing in the sink, not just after a few beers, every single day. His excuse, it's elite clock management because the sink is closer than the toilet.

Speaker 39 He says all great QBs make quick reads and that you have to take the easy

Speaker 39 Mountain Duberb. Take the easy completion.
Last night he legit called it a two-minute drill and fist pumped when he finished putting ramen in the microwave, then ran upstairs to pee. Then backed

Speaker 53 upstairs.

Speaker 39 There's got to be be a bathroom downstairs. There's a sink downstairs.

Speaker 37 Wait, did he run upstairs to the bathroom and then pee in the bathroom sink?

Speaker 39 That's what it sounds like. That's okay now.
Then back down before the microwave hit zero. He even brags about his accuracy under pressure when I'm brushing my teeth right next to him.
Yeah.

Speaker 39 I feel like the sink is kitchen sink.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 39 Like, why would you pee in a bathroom sink?

Speaker 2 I do pee in the bathroom sink every now and then.

Speaker 4 That's

Speaker 43 hold on, hear me out.

Speaker 62 It's when I'm on the road and I don't want to turn on the lights and I don't know where everything is.

Speaker 32 Like I'm in a hotel room.

Speaker 37 And the sink's easier to find than the toilet?

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Or sometimes I'll do it in the shower.

Speaker 37 I'll do that sometimes. I'll just open up a shower curtain and just pee right down.

Speaker 90 Because I just don't want, I don't want to wake up.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Being in the bathtub is way easier. You're a huge target.

Speaker 39 So you're saying you're in the bathroom, which is very small.

Speaker 67 Well, sometimes you're in a bigger bathroom.

Speaker 92 There's usually a sink.

Speaker 108 But sometimes there's like

Speaker 78 sometimes another door for the toilet, you know, when it's a glass door for the toilet.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And it gets even darker in there.

Speaker 96 And sometimes I'm just telling you.

Speaker 11 Sometimes you have the sink.

Speaker 37 Don't judge. You have the sink

Speaker 37 in a completely separate room that's not even the bathroom. Right.
It's kind of in the living room. Yeah.
And it's not in that one.

Speaker 53 That one we last when we saw that had that.

Speaker 52 Yep.

Speaker 29 No, that's actually not.

Speaker 1 That's the opposite of rich.

Speaker 39 When the sink is in another room.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that's a low-class hotel.

Speaker 53 Yeah. That's literally a low-class hotel.

Speaker 37 In the living room, pretty much.

Speaker 75 It's like there's a sink, like a microwave, and then there's just like a toilet with a shower.

Speaker 39 That one I can, yeah. That's

Speaker 75 the sink is right next to your bed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's as low-class as a hotel room can get.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 39 I'd pee in that one. Yeah.

Speaker 39 I think peeing in a sink in a bathroom is crazy.

Speaker 80 I usually do my peeing in the sink.

Speaker 39 I think a kitchen sink is crazy.

Speaker 29 A kitchen sink after doing the dishes is a reward for myself.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Yeah. Yeah.
After you do the dishes. Right.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 21 I do the dishes, then I pee, then I just do a little more soap.

Speaker 31 Done.

Speaker 37 When I let Blake out at night into the backyard to go pee, I usually just go out with him.

Speaker 92 Oh, definitely.

Speaker 39 And we pee outside, anywhere outside. We pee at the same time.

Speaker 37 And it's the greatest bonding experience you can have with a dad.

Speaker 39 No, anywhere outside. That's, you know,

Speaker 39 perks of being a guy.

Speaker 24 Facts.

Speaker 39 Sup, boys, and our sweet Prince Zach. Later this month, my husband will travel to an Airbnb in the mountains for three nights of our fourth fantasy draft.
They draft on Saturday morning. Whoa.

Speaker 39 But go up to essentially play golf, drink heavily, and fuck around all weekend.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 39 This has been going on for 15 years since they were 16. Don't tell the cops.

Speaker 39 He is more excited for this weekend and has helped plan way more of it than our daughter's first birthday, which is upcoming this weekend. Should I be mad or is it just normal behavior?

Speaker 37 Fantasy drafts, they kind of replace bachelor parties. Once you stop going on them, a lot of guys are just like, they need an excuse to just get out there with boys.

Speaker 24 Also,

Speaker 53 fuck off with first birthday parties.

Speaker 34 That's for you.

Speaker 1 For my kids, my oldest,

Speaker 62 we did them all.

Speaker 31 And then as my second and third, we started being like, we're not doing a real birthday party until

Speaker 82 four,

Speaker 53 three or four.

Speaker 70 Like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 39 But they can pick what they want where they're going. Yeah, right.

Speaker 98 And when they have friends,

Speaker 42 they don't have friends when they're one.

Speaker 66 They don't. So

Speaker 107 a one-year-old's birthday party is pizza and cupcakes.

Speaker 11 That's it. That's all you need to do.

Speaker 1 You take a picture, light a candle.

Speaker 11 They're going to probably burn themselves. That's it.

Speaker 29 In and out.

Speaker 15 So, no, he's correct.

Speaker 12 If it was your kid's 10th birthday party, I'd be like, yeah, that's kind of fucked up.

Speaker 63 Like, get in the mix.

Speaker 12 And it's going to be some planning.

Speaker 37 It's going to be this time of year in the the future. But the first birthday party.

Speaker 11 First and second. Yeah.

Speaker 22 First and second, they won't remember.

Speaker 10 No one remembers their second birthday party.

Speaker 37 It was my nephew's first birthday party about a month ago. I go down there and I'm like, I'm going to be a cool uncle.
I know he likes banging on the piano that he's got.

Speaker 37 So I got him like a plastic ukulele. And I was like, this will be fine.
He can drop it, throw it around. He'll just mess with the strings.

Speaker 37 I bring it into the house and I'm like, here's your first birthday present. And then I see he has three other ukuleles already.
Now he has four ukulele.

Speaker 96 Oh, dude, we double up on trucks.

Speaker 37 Four ukulele. That's so many ukulele to have.
And Max couldn't even get me one from Hawaii. Yeah.

Speaker 97 That's fucked up. Yeah, no, that was fucked up.
He's got four.

Speaker 64 That's fucked up.

Speaker 19 Just get a truck next time.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 78 Any truck.

Speaker 37 Does he want El Camino?

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 95 If now giving to three people. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Well, no, I gave it to Jaden so that Max wouldn't get his paws on it. Yeah.

Speaker 36 No, you have to get.

Speaker 97 That means you just have to buy another El Camino. No, it doesn't.

Speaker 37 No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
Yes, it does.

Speaker 64 You're a liar.

Speaker 57 First birthday party, though, is whack.

Speaker 1 So you have no right to be upset.

Speaker 36 As long as he attends.

Speaker 38 take the picture you could even do it on the wrong day i mean like that's the kind of stuff like i forgot like i i think i when my son started like preschool we forgot take a picture the first day we just did it the second day yeah i'll never know who cares

Speaker 39 this one is in the same vein but i feel like there is a huge i feel like a fantasy draft is easier to sell Every year, my boyfriend takes a trip with his friends to a casino to watch the first four days of March Madness.

Speaker 39 Yep. This March, they want to go to Scottsdale and we live in Texas.
He wants to fly out on a one-day trip there to scope out the venue to make sure the setup is to their liking.

Speaker 39 Why does he think this gigantic waste of money is okay?

Speaker 37 He has to scope it out.

Speaker 4 Your seating arrangement for March Madness is very important.

Speaker 36 Very important.

Speaker 52 Oh, did I tell you guys my idea?

Speaker 74 So

Speaker 4 Saturday night, Eddie had his black block party, and

Speaker 57 we hired the Billy Joel impersonator.

Speaker 31 It was great vibes.

Speaker 12 I think for March Madness, I'm going to hire him and put him in a room.

Speaker 57 And when you have a bad beat, you can just be like piano man.

Speaker 31 He just sits in there for like four days.

Speaker 78 We just pay him a retainer.

Speaker 97 Zero content can be made.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I mean, we could have a video on it. We can't obviously do audio, but you can like

Speaker 53 a silent video of you sitting there just like doing a one-man concert.

Speaker 71 Like, think about the vibes.

Speaker 40 Be like, oh man, I just got my heart ripped out.

Speaker 11 I need some scenes from an Italian restaurant.

Speaker 37 Max would love that. It would be great.

Speaker 60 You're in, right?

Speaker 1 No, it's going to cost a lot of money, but I think it's a good, yeah, like just an on-demand Billy Joel for all of March Madness.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just think of the visuals of us just like, we could probably do it in this studio, and then it is cut to you just sitting there one-on-one concert with the dude.

Speaker 37 I think the audio would be a big part of that.

Speaker 90 I think it's even funnier with no audio.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 39 Just like a security cam feed. Yeah, right.

Speaker 53 Of you just sitting there.

Speaker 39 It's an interrogation room, except it's you sitting in front of Billy Joel. Yeah.

Speaker 107 And you're singing piano man with him.

Speaker 80 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Good vibes.

Speaker 22 Just an idea. Okay.

Speaker 96 I like it.

Speaker 39 Yeah, just like a white room. Yeah.
Like a well, that'd be bad for him, I guess.

Speaker 14 All right.

Speaker 90 Yeah, we got it. He's got to be comfortable.
Yeah,

Speaker 39 he's got to be comfortable.

Speaker 39 Hey, fellas, hope all is well. My boyfriend is a huge sports fan,

Speaker 39 especially college basketball. I'm not that big of a sports fan, but went to a large university and he went to a smaller mid-major.

Speaker 39 He grew up hating the school that I went to and still claims to this day that he would rather die a gruesome death

Speaker 39 than cheer for my school. It's so bad he won't even wear the same color blue as my school.
Yep. In our talks about the future.

Speaker 64 Duke is not a Duke's school, though.

Speaker 39 No, he didn't go to Duke.

Speaker 1 He went to a mid-major. She went to a major.

Speaker 37 She said she went to a big school. So probably UNC.

Speaker 39 I think she went to UNC. Okay.
This kid is a fan of Duke. Duke, got it.
But went to a mid-major because he couldn't get into Duke.

Speaker 53 Got it. Okay.

Speaker 39 I mean, the same color blue has got to be. Yeah, yeah.
It's got to be.

Speaker 39 And it's college basketball. Yeah.
Maybe Kansas.

Speaker 39 In our talks about the future and children, this is something that I brought up.

Speaker 39 He said that our future children cannot be fans of both because he can't stand the thought of producing fans of my school. Is he being ridiculous? Thanks.

Speaker 1 Not ridiculous, but UNC's colors are a lot better.

Speaker 56 So you're kind of fucked.

Speaker 37 If it is UNC, you got to let it happen. Yeah.

Speaker 37 If it's Kentucky.

Speaker 53 Also, all Duke fans that didn't go to Duke are.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 113 Well, it depends if they're rivals, too.

Speaker 1 Like, if this is Duke UNC, it's.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm including you.

Speaker 1 If Duke UNC, that's tricky.

Speaker 16 If it's like a Kansas or Kentucky and.

Speaker 55 I could have went to Duke.

Speaker 19 How? Go and Texas.

Speaker 53 You think it's possible? You can go visit. Worked there?

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 97 I have one friend that is going to be listening to this.

Speaker 4 I'm very mad that I just said that. Good.
Fuck him.

Speaker 37 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Maybe this person went to Kentucky, the major school, and then the other person went to Creighton, the mid-major school.

Speaker 37 I just love saying that.

Speaker 65 Here's a little tip is you just, it's not that serious.

Speaker 80 Your kids are just going to do whatever.

Speaker 61 They might not even like sports.

Speaker 39 I don't think think it's that. I think this kid's being a little bit of a hardo.

Speaker 37 You do have to, if you've got rivals that are baked in, you have to establish which teams the kid roots for. You have to bargain that.

Speaker 71 I'll give you football. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Kate and Beave.

Speaker 1 Kate got.

Speaker 37 I think Kate got Phillies.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Kate got Phillies.

Speaker 37 The Beeve got the Commander. Commanders.

Speaker 64 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Tough. It's a good trade.

Speaker 31 Well, I guess the Eagles would have been.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 85 Actually, yeah.

Speaker 85 Listen.

Speaker 4 Okay. You never know.
Great show, boys.

Speaker 50 Great show.

Speaker 61 Let's finish finish with number three.

Speaker 9 I got it. Oh, I think I got it.

Speaker 34 I think memes had it.

Speaker 71 Go check it.

Speaker 37 I think it was memes by

Speaker 77 22.

Speaker 37 I'm here. I'm going to go with 40.

Speaker 78 I'm going to go with 65 if I don't have three. 45.

Speaker 53 I got you. Bye.
Definitely me.

Speaker 97 All right, 60.

Speaker 21 Great.

Speaker 4 60.

Speaker 5 That was what you guessed last time, right? Yep. All right.

Speaker 45 Perfect. 44.

Speaker 105 Shout out, Bill.

Speaker 97 85.

Speaker 52 99 pug.

Speaker 52 What?

Speaker 114 I like 85. Why me? I like 50.

Speaker 83 I got 85.

Speaker 50 13.

Speaker 97 You get so mad every time.

Speaker 35 44.

Speaker 22 44?

Speaker 113 Were you PFT? I got 44. 45.

Speaker 53 You can't take 99 Pug.

Speaker 59 You got Hank?

Speaker 55 2-2.

Speaker 55 Well, you took 99.

Speaker 59 84.

Speaker 59 34. 34.
Oh, she's going to be pissed.

Speaker 53 Oh.

Speaker 19 Oh, thank God it wasn't 4. Yeah, sorry for anyone who thought it was 84.

Speaker 105 My bad. My dad wanted me to take 84, too.
That'd make it that way.

Speaker 95 Oh, that would have sucked. Great.

Speaker 37 So, your dad got it.

Speaker 109 No, it was 34.

Speaker 54 Love you guys.

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