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Today is Monday, August 4th, and PFT.

I'm starting to think Micah Parsons and the Cowboys do not like each other.

That's interesting.

That's interesting because all the talk in the world was about Scary Terry on Thursday.

And we told people, keep your eye on the ball.

Micah Parsons.

It was quite a statement.

Quite a statement.

Was it the notes app?

Was it, well, there was the notes app, which is on dark mode, which I appreciate.

I feel like that's the more impactful way to make a statement on notes app.

What I didn't appreciate is he didn't cut up the notes app correctly.

So you would read one and then you would go to the next slide and you start halfway through what you just read.

Don't like to do the extra reading.

Just a little note from Micah Parsons for future notes apps.

Let's just clean that up.

Let's clean that part up.

I don't really mind that because I get so distracted when I'm reading a notes app that's in four different panels that by the time I get to the second panel, it's helpful to reread what I just read at the end of the first one.

But yeah, you can tell that he put that out there too.

That was his notes app, not a notes app that was texted to an agent who then did the very valuable work of copying and pasting and cropping the corners out of the notes app.

No, it was straight from his phone.

You can see it.

It was right on there.

So it wasn't as far as declaring himself independent from the Dallas Cowboys, but he just said, I no longer want to be a part of the organization.

I want to trade.

You kind of fucked me over because we talked.

That was not a negotiation.

Then you won't speak to my agent.

Which is apparently a Jerry Jones special because I saw there was also going viral the time that he, Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells basically took Tony Romo into a closet and basically said, This is the deal we want you to sign.

And he was just like, Well, I'm not signing it, and my agent isn't here.

So Jerry Jones likes to do this little wheeling and dealing, talking to you.

The story goes that he sat with Micah Parsons talking about leadership in the offseason.

Then they started talking numbers.

and then basically they called up his agent and was like, hey, we got the deal done.

And his agent's like, what are you talking about?

I haven't talked to you about any of this.

Kind of scummy behavior.

Micah Parsons, it feels, and there was bad body language, too.

They were not happy with each other on the sideline because he's holding in, had his back to Stephen Jones.

Lori hold in.

Jerry Jones is doing weird Jerry Jones

pressers where he, the one I noted was he said, when I grew up, I knew when mama wouldn't let me do something, going to daddy and daddy letting me do it, then going back in and saying to mama, daddy said I could do it.

That old mama-daddy stuff, we got here doing that by nature.

We're not going to do that.

That's really weird because I think in this analogy, he's referring to his son as mommy.

Also,

that's such a crazy quote.

I was like, I had to double-check and be like, is this

made up?

But it was a real reporter who had reported that.

No, I think he turned Steven into mommy in that equation.

So, of course.

Not doing the mommy-daddy stuff.

Not doing doing the mommy daddy stuff.

You refuse.

And then Florio is all over it because this is a wet dream for him.

Of course.

And so he came up with an idea.

You want to hear a dream that's going to piss you off?

Okay.

Okay, this is Florio's idea.

He's not wrong, but it's going to piss you off.

For a player in the last year of his contract, his obligation ends with the final game of the regular season, which means that he can walk out at the start of the postseason or at any point during the playoffs with no contractual consequences.

I like that.

Florio is saying that a player in this situation in the final year of their contract would be within their rights at the start of the season to say, I'm going to play, I'm going to play out my contract, but if we make the playoffs, I'm not going to play in any playoffs.

This is double fan fiction because it has the fan fiction of the Dallas Cowboys making the playoffs.

Yep.

And then the fan fiction of Micah Parsons walking out on a playoff team.

So I was thinking about this.

I think the only reason why Micah Parsons would not come out and say that is because he knows that everybody's response would be like, what do you mean in the playoffs?

Yeah.

Which is a deterrent for him.

Right.

But yeah,

it's taking the college argument of sitting out bullseason, and moving it to the NFL.

I like that.

And then Florio's stirring it up a little bit.

He is.

I like that.

Also, Jerry Jones is,

he just keeps taking shots.

Like I said, we talked about this like a month ago, that he is in that senile old phase where he's just saying shit and you're like, I really wish you wouldn't say that.

Thanksgiving table uncle shit.

Because he was asked about if it bothered him reading Micah Parsons' statement.

And he said, not a bit.

I can't tell you how many hundreds of times I've heard that negotiation.

And then when he was asked about fans yelling for him to sign Parsons on the sidelines, he said it was just so much louder walking off the field last year with CeeDee Lamb.

Yeah.

So he's just taking a dig

at Micah right there for no reason.

And meanwhile, it's fun.

This is fun.

Meanwhile, CeeDee Lamb and he said something on Twitter.

Trayvon Diggs, Overshone.

And

there's another guy.

They changed their profile pictures to Micah Parsons.

Okay.

And then Des Bryant is also weighing in because Des Bryant went through a weird contract negotiation with Jerry Jones where Jay-Z got involved.

And then Jerry claimed that Jay-Z was not returning his calls.

And then they eventually got the deal done on a cocktail napkin, which also presents another problem because, one, it's not a contract.

Two, Jay-Z was never actually a certified agent for the NFL.

So

it brings up the question.

Can you just declare yourself independent from an NFL team?

This is what Florio would love.

Can we do that?

Is that the absentee?

You can just be like, I am no longer a cowboy.

He wants to get rid of the draft.

Yeah, he's just like, I'm not playing for the Cowboys.

So, I mean, if Jerry is, in fact, like trying to negotiate directly with players and not negotiating with their agents, there might be a loophole in there.

I don't know.

I'm not a lawyer.

Also, they should just trade him because the Cowboys are not

a Super Bowl team right now.

And if you don't want to pay him, trade him.

Khalil Mack.

Guaranteed two first-rounders.

Like guaranteed.

And the Khalil Mack was a good trade for the Bears.

They just, the timeline of Mitch did not work out how they thought it would.

Yeah.

That would be a mistake.

I don't know.

I would trade him in a second.

Any team should trade him for two first-round.

Is there going to be a guy in the next two drafts that's going to be better than Micah Parsons?

I don't think so.

I don't know.

He's got 12 sacks in his first four seasons.

He's a monster.

I'm looking.

I'm trying to figure out who the Raiders got with those Khalil Mack picks.

They got.

No, it was really bad.

Let's see.

Who do the Raiders get traded?

No one good.

I think it was Leatherwood or whatever.

So it was a lose-lose trade, kind of.

No,

Mack was good for the Bears.

Yeah,

the Bears trading for Khalil Mack was not.

Khalil Mack was not the problem for that.

It was that you traded for him being like, Mitch is going to progress and get better and better and better.

When Mitch didn't get better and better and better, you then were out of picks to maneuver out of that.

Yeah, he became.

The Khalil Mack part of it was correct.

Like, he was a monster.

He was good, but he became like a luxury player, which is like.

Well, yeah, because the quarterback didn't come along.

You were like, hey, we got to.

The thought process behind it was correct.

It's just you need the quarterback on a rookie contract to get better as he gets to second, third, fourth year.

The Bills should give a call.

The Bills should give him a call.

Patriots.

Patriots should give a call.

What are the odds?

It's Cowboys minus three, three.

You meant 12 sacks last year.

Patriots.

I thought he had 12,000 sacks in his first four seasons.

Eagles plus 1,000.

Who, Micah Parsons?

Yeah.

No.

Every year.

Oh, every year.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Every year.

He's four years into his career.

Every single one of his first four years, he has at least 12 sacks.

He has at least 12 years.

Which is pretty fucking impressive.

I think that's the first player to do that since Reggie White.

Yeah, he has 52 and a half sacks through four seasons.

Yeah.

I mean, well, Max is trying to get him.

Max is trying to trade a perfect

stool as well.

You know,

that was a tough one.

You guys see the treat?

What did Max do?

Max said, how.

Hold on, Trevor.

Let's pull it up.

Don't tell us what it is.

This was.

We're not doing this again this week.

What do you mean?

This is.

You were trying to negotiate a deal on Friday afternoon.

Doing what?

I'll tell you the exact tweet.

I'm going to pull it up because I don't want Max to try it.

I will pull it up.

No, I'm going to pull it up.

I'm going to pull it up.

Here it comes.

This is from Maxwell Delente on August 1st.

Is there any possible way for us to make a person's trade work?

A person's trade.

Yeah.

He's trying to trade people.

T and A are close to each other on the keyboard.

I thought he was trying to trade someone at Barstall.

There's an S in between, Max.

It's still there.

And a W.

It's still close.

I didn't say it was Max.

I said it was worse.

Have you ever participated in human trafficking?

I have not.

I wanted Micah Parsons 10 to 1 on the DraftKings Sportsbook.

Every team should want Micah Parsons.

This is a no-brainer.

He's 26 years old.

The Eagles have the next best odds, 10 to 1 on DraftKings Sportsbook.

I offered Micah Parsons free ice cream for life in the DMs if he signs with the Bears.

That's all.

Everyone do your part.

Any response?

No.

Red?

Put it.

I'd rather him be on the Bears than Debs.

But he does follow me.

Yeah, he's an unbelievable player.

And like I said,

if you're going to, it's not like in baseball where you, you know, guys will get traded for a one-year rental and then they'll go sign somewhere else.

If Michael Parsons gets traded, he's going to sign a deal the next day.

Is it the day that he shows up to his new team?

If it actually happens where Micah Parsons just never plays for the Cowboys again, if he just says, I'm done with the Cowboys and I mean it, I will not play another down of football for you.

Are we going to, is there going to be like an uprising against Jerry Jones?

Is this like the bridge too far?

Because Cowboys fans have dealt with a lot of shit from Jerry Jones.

Oh, no.

Cowboys fans deserve to be mad at Jerry Jones because he is losing it.

So if a star player sits out, it's going to be

uprise against the owner.

I'm saying in this case with Micah Parsons, because there's been a lot of stuff that's happened that Cowboys fans are not happy with.

And if the star player sits out because the owner screwed up the negotiations by inserting himself and then trying to take a fake deal to get it signed, that seems like it's a problem.

And it's also, this is what the Cowboys do.

Like, good organizations get their good players signed before it becomes a problem.

Jerry Jones feels like every player, every big player, he has a problem and then he gets it figured out.

And this all,

we should also put a disclaimer on this.

Similar to last year, this could all be Jerry Jones trying to steal the headlines week one, and Micah Parsons gets a massive deal right before.

On Sunday morning.

No, it would be Thursday night.

Kickoff.

Yeah.

The first game of the season, like where they agree, hey, Micah, come back to camp.

We'll get it figured out.

Wink, wink.

We'll sign you all your numbers, and then we can announce it as you're walking in to the link and basically try to steal Banner Knight from the Eagles.

That could absolutely be on the table here.

Anything could be on the table, Jerry.

Yeah.

You know that that's a Jerry Jones move.

I mean, he did that last year.

It wasn't, didn't really have the same pop when it was Dak coming out of the tunnel in Cleveland.

But he thought it was.

He did think it was.

Max, do you want him?

Everyone should want him.

Of course, I want him.

No one should be saying no to Michael Parsons.

The other thing is, you keep talking about this not playing a year thing.

He's done it before.

True.

He didn't play.

He sat out his whole COVID year.

His whole COVID year.

Yeah.

All right, so Cowboys still favored.

Then Eagles, Patriots, Chargers, all pretty much the same odds.

Yeah.

It's, I mean, again, it's, I know the two first rounds seemed like a lot, but Micah Parsons is really fucking good at football.

Yeah, I just don't think that, Max, as much as I would want you to be happy with having Micah Parsons on your team, I don't see Jerry trading it inside the division.

Well, it's also like.

Yeah, it makes no sense.

There's no way he would do that.

But it is, you know.

It's interesting that we have the

next best odds.

It is interesting.

It is interesting.

I don't know why we would have the next best odds, but it is.

I think Howie.

I think the reason is

a wild motherfucker.

He loves the Eagles.

Micah just loves the Eagles.

I think if he had the choice, he would want to go to the Eagles.

He grew up a Birds fan?

He grew up in the area, and he has those clips every single year during,

he live streams the drafts, and the Eagles always get good picks.

And he's like, how the fuck are they doing this again?

He is always sucking off the Eagles.

Okay.

So that's, yeah, I mean, that was the big story for the weekend.

Do we have any update on Terry?

I'm no longer worried about Terry.

Oh.

Because I saw a 10-second clip of him going up to Josh Harris, shaking his hand.

I did see that as well.

Hugging Jaden's mom.

And then that's all I need to see.

Business.

As James Cook is saying, just business.

Okay.

It's a negotiating tactic.

I don't think that Terry actually wants to get traded.

I think that the trade request, that's just the next thing that you do in this type of negotiation.

First, you try the hold out.

Then you try the hold in.

Then you request a trade.

Again, request, not demand a trade.

Very politely asking for a trade.

If you're not.

Please, sir,

listening, if it's not too much trouble, would it be okay with you if you were to allow me to be traded?

And then they're like, ah, you know what?

I'm pretty busy right now.

We can't do that.

Okay, no worries, no worries.

What if it was a respect thing, though?

What if it was like, you know, we tried, I'll always respect you.

Thank you.

Mrs.

Daniels, Jaden's mom, whatever.

Oh.

I don't think they look very happy to see.

Hey, business is business.

So you're saying Terry's basically sending an email being like, hey, I know you've had a busy week, but if you could quickly just look at this contract and sign off on it, he's sending an email.

And if there's any issues, I don't want to be a bother whatsoever.

Sign Terry McLaurin.

No worries, but.

Yeah.

And then he uses the word just like five times.

What if it was 34 million?

Ha ha.

I was wondering if, just maybe you could take a look at the contract and maybe you could add two or three million per year.

Just that.

Yeah.

If not, it's no big deal.

Just a little extra.

Hey, no worries.

No worries if you can't do it.

Yeah.

All right, so you're not worried.

Because of a handshake.

I'm no longer worried because it very well could be him saying, hey, dude,

it's

nothing personal here.

I love being a a commander, but it's not going to happen.

No, I mean, if you know anything about

Josh Harris's history of handshakes on camera, this was a handshake that he meant.

Did you see the tweet that was very funny?

I don't think this is how it works, but

a Twitter account, Terry Franconia, said the best thing Paul George has done for Philadelphia is take $55 million from Josh Harris this upcoming year, so you can't give it to Terry McLaurin.

I thought that was pretty funny, and I don't know if that's how it works.

I think it's exactly how it works.

Yeah, like I don't see how it works.

I read a couple of replies, and people were like, That's not how it works.

I'm like, I don't really know how it works, but it seems like it could work that way.

It might, it might be how it works.

That would be catastrophic for you, PFT, because you do like making fun of Paul George.

And if that was

I don't, I wouldn't say I like making fun of Paul George.

He's a podcaster, he's a, he's a colleague, respect, he's a brother-in-arms.

But if that was exactly, what if Josh Harris did it, like he wasn't able to sign him, and he was like, it's because of Paul George?

It's really, if you want to trace it back, it's Ben Simmons.

Yeah.

But Paul George is what he just paid.

Yeah.

And, well, also, I guess the Embiid, did you guys see the, not to get a tangent here, but there was a report that

Joel's Embiid's knee in

league circles is way worse than people are

saying publicly.

You think that's true?

I think that's true.

I do trust league circles.

League circles are saying that

it is a big problem.

What is a league circle?

Is that

an agent's friend?

I think it's just Russillo.

The group tax.

Yeah, yeah it's group text rousillo yeah rousillo thumbs up i think the knee's worse did you see that max he was at the phills game but did you see the league circles he looked good he looked good on the sideline of the phillies game was he standing or was he in was he in a handicap seat uh no he was on the field oh okay was he in the cart he was not in a cart no okay was he was he leaning on anyone

I think he was.

The picture that I saw, I do think he was leaning against the dugout.

Oh, no.

Did he throw it up?

He can't stand upright.

Let's take a look.

Let's take a look here.

Can't stand upright.

Did you guys see?

Now we're going real tangent.

Did you guys see that

there was a tweet that went viral like maybe a month or two ago that was like in the Cold War, Russian spy.

Oh, yeah, he's not standing on his own.

He's taking all of his body weight off.

He's leaning.

That's a heavy lean.

Max,

that's nothing on his knees.

But he's not moving his right arm.

Does he still have the palsy?

He is moving his right arm.

Just a little bit, not nearly as much as the left.

That's that's aura.

You don't know anything about that.

That's right.

The tweet I saw was in the Cold War, Russia was able to figure out who was like an

American spy or just an American because they would lean on things.

And it got in my head, and I realized that I lean on everything.

Wait, is that true?

Yeah, it's like a cultural thing that Americans lean on things because we're lazy.

Yeah, and I realized very quickly, like, I started checking myself after I read that.

I was like, dude, I fucking lean all the time.

Yeah, I never, you, you'll never catch me just standing.

Yeah.

Why would you?

Russians don't lean.

I guess a lot of other colors.

I mean, I know Asians, the Asian squat.

Yeah, Asians.

Yeah, they do squat.

But yeah, I guess it's a lazy American thing.

We just like to lean on shit.

Irish too.

Yeah.

Just because they're drunk.

And be'd real American.

Real American.

Well, no, that's his knee.

Did you see the end of the clip?

He wasn't leaning.

He was like gingerly turning around.

He was falling over.

He lost his balance.

All right.

Well, let's get back to football.

Would you guys like to talk about any other football?

Maybe some clips that went around these stupid drills where they're throwing it in nets and stuff.

I was actually telling Hank about this earlier because we've reached a point in the offseason where people are just hunting to find the very worst Caleb Williams clip they can get from that practice, knowing that it's guaranteed to do numbers on them.

Numbies.

And you know what?

It will, and I love all of them because they're funny.

I don't think that has any bearing on whether or not he's good this year.

This one's AI.

I think he's going to be good this year, but I love watching these videos.

AI?

That looks AI to me.

He's just storms away.

Look, it's not a great clip.

I did see another one that got no retweets of him actually nailing the drills.

Also,

last I checked, receivers have hands, so all those would probably be caught.

I mean,

football is back, but like, who cares?

No, listen, it's a practice.

I get it.

I get the game.

There was another one at Soldier Field today.

This is why we say six out of 10.

Look,

you got to hit in the holes.

The one win I did get out of this, though, was our good friend Ryan Whitney, who has told us because of our stance with Connor McDavid, he's going to be rooting against us all the time.

So he sent me the clip and he said, sick, he looks awesome, being obviously facetious.

And I said, that's AI, dude.

And I said, you see this dog scuba diving?

And then Whitney said, wait, that is AI, the Caleb one.

And I was like, no, it wasn't, but I got you to believe that for a second.

So that's a win for today yeah you can make him believe he definitely believed it for a second yeah yeah look at this one this is the alternate angle or another time when he's doing the drill and he was he was crushing it the funniest part of the one where he misses the net is that he like hits the coach behind the net on the last rep yeah it's a it's a funny clip yeah i mean listen this is uh unfortunately this is the the spot that uh i find myself in caleb finds himself in that uh any bad what happened to not not filming from the sideline that might have been during the 20 minutes

i was i was going through all the whole list of it.

AI,

that actually is illegal.

We should get that copyrighted, taken down.

There's music playing in the background.

Yeah,

there's another clip that we need to

signal boost.

What are you going to say?

We'll see how it goes when he's out on the field.

But yeah,

it is basically if you click on one Caleb Williams video, you can get trapped pretty quickly into just highlights or lowlights of his camp.

It might be my algorithm now.

It might be like suggested videos for me.

It happens.

It happens.

It happens.

So, whatever.

It's practice.

Right, Hank?

It's practice.

Although the stats from today don't look great.

Practice?

You're talking about the practice stats?

Are these true?

I mean, it was at Soldier Field.

Are you talking about practice stats?

Five for 17 with three interceptions.

Dude, they're overloading them with stuff.

You want to make these mistakes in the preseason.

That's how you learn.

It is just practice.

It's just.

It's August.

We got another.

I can't believe this is my life.

I'm smiling through it all.

It's practice.

Didn't Tua go like seven practices without throwing a pick?

And then the fans all clapped when he finally threw one.

Yeah.

They know ball.

Yeah.

Miami, good sports town.

That's what we all do.

This was Jalen Hurts last year when this was you.

No, it was not.

It's actually not good.

Match, not everything's about the Eagles.

This one might be a good thing.

This was what...

No, this is an entire bit that you guys did.

This is about Tua.

This is happening right now with Tua.

Currently?

Yeah, it happened.

I think his streak ended today.

But are you forgetting that this was a bit that happened all the time?

I don't know what you're talking about.

I do remember that.

You just kept making fun of me and saying that

it's not good that he hasn't thrown an interception yet.

I'm just talking about what's happening right now with Tua.

The fans clap because he finally threw a pick.

Good sports town.

Do you not believe that it's also happening to Tua?

I'm sure it is, but that was a bit on this show for a month.

It was.

It was.

And I,

no, actually, no, I don't, I don't take back any of that bit because Caleb Williams throws interceptions in practice.

So he's a good quarterback.

It's good.

Yeah, that's good.

It's good.

He's going to make these mistakes.

By the way, speaking of the Dolphins, Mike McDaniel and Tyreek Hill do not like each other.

I don't know that.

I was very, very unsure that Tyreek would be back in Miami this year.

Did they try to trade him?

He's doing like a hybrid of the hold-in,

just be an asshole while participating thing.

Yeah, I'm here.

Yeah, he's just

criticizing his fourth down play calling.

Clown Reek.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It doesn't feel great.

This is what this time of the year is for, though.

It's just people being, it's like Pete Carroll throwing a

flag into practice, a challenge flag, Caleb Williams missing a bunch of targets.

Everyone having a good laugh.

And, you know, guys holding in, holding out.

Do you think that Pete Carroll in his year off?

Do you think he was chewing gum?

Yes.

I feel like he waits for football for that.

I don't see him walking around the house doing it.

I got to know.

No, I think he was doing it while he was watching football.

Yeah, when football's on TV.

Yeah, yeah, when he's watching tape.

Yeah.

He's grinding tape.

I do have an update on day nine of Brown's Training Camp for their QB tracker that they've got.

Okay.

Flacco, 11 for 18.

One touchdown, no picks.

Sanders did not throw.

Dylan Gabriel, 11 for 22, one touchdown, no picks.

Pickett, injured, did not throw.

Ooh.

I think it's going to be Flacco, guys.

Listen,

as someone who sees Training Camp and being like, everything that happens there is actually more important than the games and we should need to take it very seriously it's flacco flacco it's got to be flacco it's got to be flacco because these these reps matter yeah if you're laughing about these reps you don't know ball so we do we have a full stat tracker for him there max is that what you have yeah this is the full uh

through saturday i mean kenny pickett right now has the best stats i would say yeah but he got hurt but he's hurt can't make the club in the tub i mean flacco still three tds zero interceptions guy throws a good good ball.

Shadora kind of lighting it up with six touchdowns, zero interceptions.

Shadora has the best stats.

You've got the Wiley vet.

It's like the old guy from Squid Game, just waiting it out, letting all the youngsters get eliminated.

Now you're stuck with him.

Damn.

We should talk real quick about ESPN buying red zone because that was a big story as well in front of me.

So

people are rightfully mad or freaking out because I'd say there's a decent chance that ESPN fucks us up.

No.

I think what they'll do is they'll I think much like inside the NBA, they won't fuck it up right away because they know people will be upset, but they'll eventually fuck it up and they'll slip in some things and non-commercial free football.

Scott Hanson, you're out.

Stephen A.

Smith, you're in.

It sucks.

I mean, it's all because ESPN is about to launch their new ESPN Plus that's going to be $30 a month.

So they need more sports, more live live rights to justify that.

Adding red zone, adding seven NFL games is exactly what could justify that.

Don't fuck it up.

They're going to fuck it up, but don't fuck it up.

They're not going to have commercials.

I don't think.

I hope that they won't.

NFL Network tried that last year.

I don't think they're going to have commercials right away.

But I think that they're going to have very intrusive on-screen commercials.

during the actual and I think they're going to eventually get to commercials.

Yeah.

It's going to suck.

Not good.

Is it still going to be Scott Hanson or do we have anybody else?

Well, so it takes a year.

It's not going to happen this year.

So next year is the earliest it could happen

because they have to like vote on this.

You know they're thinking Greenie.

Dude, if you're not going to be able to do that.

You know,

the pitch deck for getting red zone was just Mike Greenberg's face.

We've got the man.

Scott Hanson, you can't screw with Scott Hanson and what he has.

You can't.

The Istians basically, their whole strategy now is just buy everything that is universally beloved and then try not to fuck it up.

Yeah.

That's a dangerous strategy they're playing.

Because these are things inside the NBA and red zone are, I would say, two of the highest approval rating things that exist in the sports world.

We don't like when you change a score bug by like one pixel.

Yeah.

It's going to be weird having the ESP and graphic.

We get pissed when you start a game two minutes after it says like the start time.

Tip time, yeah.

This is

we get mad when you play a commercial too many times and the song gets in our head.

If they screw up red zone, that's my personal January 6th.

It's going to be a problem.

Yeah.

And then, yeah, the interpretation of the NBA is going to be.

I'm going to put on the horns.

I'm going to get the staff.

I'm going to walk out of there with John Skipper's lectern.

Don't fuck this up.

It's fucking on.

Don't fuck this up.

Okay,

what else do we want to talk about?

We want to talk a little baseball, national sports podcast.

I got a baseball story.

Actually, no, no, I'll save that for who's back league.

I was going to say Kyle Schwerber should be MVP.

Yep.

You agree, Hank?

I do.

That's crazy.

Wholeheartedly.

Wholeheartedly.

Do you agree?

I for sure agree.

Todd Shohei.

Todd Shohei for home runs.

Shohe's not pitching.

PCA is very good.

He's cooled off a little.

I would love for PCA to win MVP, but I also have a 90-to-1 ticket on Kyle Schwerber.

But that has nothing to do with us saying Kyle Schwerber should win MVP.

I'm not concerned with the NL race.

I'm more concerned Kyle Rowley should be ALL.

Okay, I just feel very strong.

I agree with that as well.

Yeah.

The baseball was awesome on Friday night, especially.

There was like a few walk-offs.

They had that

Pirates Rockies game that was 17 to 16.

That was awesome.

Baseball's heating up.

It's good.

Okay.

And oh, we should talk about the Speedway Classic.

That was an absolute disaster.

Yeah, so the rain.

It's a cool stadium, but that doesn't mean that you have to put other sports inside your cool stadium.

So I said like in Wrigley Field when they did the Winter Classic.

Yeah.

Terrible place to watch a baseball game.

Yeah, the sight lines, a hockey game.

Yeah, to watch a hockey game.

Great place to watch a baseball game.

Terrible place to watch an NHL game for the Winter Classic.

Yeah.

If it's a drone shot, if it's a blimp shot, it looks incredible.

Anybody that's in that stadium, not having a great time, I feel the same way about using NASCAR tracks to have other sports.

So obviously they can't be blamed for the rain except for the fact that they tried to play an inning when they knew that they weren't going to play anything, and that was really stupid.

They ran out of hot dog buns

in the first inning.

They ran out of cheese on the nachos.

They did have Tim McGraw and Pitbull performing together, which that's a crazy combo.

But I don't understand.

And I tweeted this this morning.

Like, why not just do it at Field of Dreams every single year?

I guess they're doing renovations there, and they're making it like an insane, all-encompassing baseball place that is going to hold tournaments and everything.

But this is such a situation where like baseball had a really cool thing.

That White Sox Yankees game was insane.

And why not just go back there and do it?

We're simple people.

We would like to see a field of dreams game and the only change that you make to it is just have the corn be the entire outfield.

No actual wall.

Yeah.

But this made no sense and they totally botched it.

And they had a bunch of people sitting in the rain being like, oh, yeah, we're going to play a game.

Oh, we're we're going to play one inning.

And they had fucking Blooper driving, might, might have been drunk, on the track.

That part was kind of cool.

They should have breathalized him.

Should have figured that out.

It's just, it's just butter.

Yeah, this was a total, total mess by

MLB.

I have a stay woke.

You guys want to do a stay woke real quick?

Yeah.

Portland Pickles guy.

Come on.

Are we this stupid?

The fan?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The fan that got her and had the purest swing of all time.

How are people falling for this?

Do you know anything about the guy?

I don't.

The Portland Pickles are an unaffiliated team, I assume, and they had a special.

I think it's a collegiate Summer League team.

Yeah, unaffiliated.

Yeah, Summer Ball.

And they had a contest where a fan could get in a bat, and then the fan took the pitcher 425 feet.

This isn't...

What are we talking about here?

This guy plays.

Fans have at-bats.

Yeah.

This guy plays somewhere, right?

I mean, mean, the bat speed was absolutely incredible.

Insane.

Pure sweat.

And he also, like, got, I think he got a walk in the first at-bat

and then was like running the bases really well and like seasoned vet.

I would say, regardless,

he still hit it.

Of course.

But what if he plays?

That's a pro swing.

For sure.

Yeah.

But

he still hit a homer.

They did the thing and he hit a homer, which like

he could be.

Yeah, you're right.

He could be the best player in the world and like still not hit a homer in his one in his one-hat bats.

Do we think that well, let me see that pitch again?

Was it a meatball?

Looked like it was a fastball.

Oh, that was a meatball.

But still, like.

Yeah.

But if you're that pitcher.

I think it was a 3-2 count.

Apparently, he...

Oh, the kid rocks.

I'm just saying it's more that we can't.

I don't believe that this is just a fan plucked out of the stand.

But if you're that pitcher, you do not groove him one on purpose.

Unless

it's very embarrassing.

But if it's planned and it's like, we need to get a viral moment,

I think that pitcher would still be like, fuck that.

I'm going to try to strike him.

Yeah, I think someone broke it down and the pitch before was like a slider in the dirt, like a 2-2 count that made it a 3-2 count.

So he did groove a fastball, but it was directly after

a tough slider.

Okay.

I have a stay woke.

Yeah.

I think the WNBA is throwing dildos onto their own courts.

We got to talk about this.

Get the ratings up.

They did arrest someone.

Someone got arrested.

Someone got arrested.

For dildo chucking?

So we had our second dildo go onto a court.

Same exact green dildo.

Sir.

Second dildo.

It was quite something seeing.

I never thought we would get to the point where Sophie Cunningham

had to tweet, stop throwing dildos on the court.

You're going to hurt one of us.

A real tweet.

So there's a second dildo thrown.

Bills fans got to be like.

The dildozer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, but there was a person who got arrested in Atlanta.

What do you get arrested for?

Dildo throwing.

That's against the law?

It's funny.

That's against the law?

I think throwing something onto a basketball court, like a professional game, is probably against the law.

Even if it's funny?

Yeah, they could always be like, that could hurt someone.

If somebody tripped and fell in a dildo, that would be pretty funny, though.

Yeah, it'd be very funny.

I said the same thing in the NFL.

Yeah.

When it happened at Bill's games.

Yeah.

The Valkyries are the ones that are getting.

So it's both of their games.

Yeah.

So it's the Valkyries in Atlanta and then the Valkyries in Chicago.

And dildos came on the court for both of them.

And they're bright colored.

You can't miss them.

Looked like Shrek's dick.

And we have a serial dildo thrower.

You think it's the same guy?

I don't know.

They arrested the first guy, so I don't know.

But they might not have arrested him.

We got to see this person.

He might be a copycat.

I do agree.

This could be a stay woke.

Oh, look at the ref kick it.

Perfect kick.

And then they use a title to pick it up.

What if she kicked it and went right into that video guy's butt?

Or his mouth.

Listen, you shouldn't throw stuff on the court.

But if you're going to throw something, a dildo is, objectively speaking, the funniest thing to throw.

Yeah.

It is funny.

And again, it was funny when the Bills did it.

Yeah.

It'd be funny no matter what event it was.

It's going to keep happening, isn't it?

I'd like to see a crossover breakthrough sports.

So it's not just sports.

It's like political debates.

Yeah.

Imagine if Biden got like a suction cup dildo that was thrown stuck to his forehead.

Forehead, yeah.

Didn't realize it.

It would be cool if we had like a challenge where it was just one person.

Like people shouldn't start throwing dildos.

But if one guy can throw green dildos at sporting events around America and not get caught, I'm in for that.

The dildo bandit would be an all-time story.

And maybe mix in some baseball games, some training camps.

What if you throw a dildo during a baseball game and then a pitcher hits it like Randy Johnson, destroying the bird?

Just exploded the dildo.

What if a guy comes to training camp and throws a dildo and Ben Johnson's like, get me that guy?

Does the dildo go into the net?

He needs to be our quarterback.

Somebody edit just a bunch of dildos into Caleb Williams.

They should remake Missing the Net.

Yeah.

Rookie of the Year.

But it's the dildo thrower.

Yeah.

We need that dildo thrower.

Get him over here.

Yank.

The rookie of the year, fun fact.

Yeah.

About PCA's mom?

Yeah.

Have we talked about it on the show?

No, No, that's just one of those.

No, we haven't.

I don't know if we've talked about it on the show.

It's a very fun fact.

Yeah.

PCA's mom is in Rookie of the Year.

She's the mom in Rookie of the Year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a fun fact.

It is a very fun fact.

I thought you were going to confess to the dildo throwing.

No, I've not gone to a WNBA game.

Nor do I play it.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

What if you knew that there were going to be dildos thrown?

Maybe if it was like a big event.

What if this whole golf thing was just a cover-up for Hank having an addiction to throwing dildos at WNBA players?

Like, oh, I'm going golfing again this weekend, guys.

Oh, I got to travel for golf.

It's a great alibi.

It is.

Your handicap keeps getting lower.

I think it's going to happen again.

It's definitely going to happen.

I think on Amazon, the dildos are

low on stock.

Are they going to be tracked now?

I think so.

The ATF is going to start tracing every sale of every dildo.

though.

Man, Hank, I think you got your 90s baseball movies mixed up.

Was it

Little Big League?

Little Big League.

His mom is in.

Yes.

Not Rookie of the Year.

Rookie of the Year is the

one I was talking about.

Little Big League, I think, is a better movie than Rookie of the Year.

No, Rookie of the Year is not.

Little Big League is.

No, Little Big League is legit a great movie.

Rookie of the Year is legit a great movie.

Rookie of the Year is legit

very thumb.

I like them both.

You guys need to watch Little Big League again.

I have

a great film.

It is good, but Rookie of the Year is better.

Yeah, you got him.

That's all right.

Those are very similar.

You got it now?

Yeah.

So back to you, Zeroni's dildos.

I like Little Big League better.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Embrace debate.

Zach, which one do you like better?

He's seen neither.

Ron Tomatoes has Rookie of the Year higher.

Okay.

Which one do you like better?

Rookie of the Year has

what's his name?

Daniel Stern?

Harry.

No, Marv.

No, Harry.

Harry.

Harry.

He's so funny.

He's so funny in it.

So funny.

Hot ice.

Yeah.

Heat up the ice.

Saussiebagger.

Garden Hauser.

Dude.

Little help now.

Like,

what do you say?

Little help now.

Little help now.

He gets stuck in the thing.

It's just, listen, don't throw dildos on the court, but the fact that this is an actual conversation people have to have online is so fucking funny.

It's so fucking funny.

Again,

don't throw dildos.

Do not throw dildos on the court.

It could hurt one of us.

Please don't.

But I will laugh if it happens.

Every time.

And it does.

You can tweet it.

It might be funnier at an NBA game than does an NBA game.

It doesn't matter what sport it is.

It doesn't matter what event.

If somebody brings in a stray dildo, I'm in.

It would be nice if we had, you know, little, you know,

Representation Matters.

We'd get a pocket pussy thrown out at an NBA game.

That'd be great.

Let's get that going.

Mm-hmm.

Asakiras.

Remember that one?

Yeah.

No, that was a pocket pussy.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I said.

You were looking up to it.

I was reading about Little Big League and Rookie of the Year.

Or if somebody just throws one of those big fists.

Have you seen those ones?

Oh.

They're just the forearm and the fist?

Yeah.

Yeah, just big, giant butt fists.

You're getting those in your Google ads or something?

Big, giant butt fist.

No, they always kept that one in the corner at the sex shop.

Yeah.

Go in there and it was like the real hardcore shit.

The real motherfucker.

Yeah, the real.

You want some hardcore shit.

That's the real shit.

Okay.

Anything else?

Oh, your new closer has an awesome walk-up.

So sad.

He always had that.

I know Twins fans.

By the way, I should say, Twins fans,

this has sucked for you.

We've talked about Minnesota sports being just abused, but the Twins just treating their entire team and just being shitty ownership.

That needs to change.

They're in the category with the Rockies, with the A's, with the Pirates.

They have more success than those teams, but their owners don't care, and their owners aren't trying to win.

And so, fuck their owners.

That's why Little Big League is such a cathartic movie.

Yeah.

I'm going to look up their owners because we got to give them something.

Twins owners.

The Polads.

Fuck them.

The Polads?

That sounds like I'm a

slur.

I was going to say that.

But the Polad family, fuck you guys.

Jim Polad,

jerk.

Carl Polad, jerk.

Jim's son Joe, jerk.

Maybe in AWL.

Listen, if you want to get us free tickets, we won't take them.

The Polads.

I'm considering it.

I will not.

I'm standing up for Twins fans.

You guys getting fucking screwed.

How long have these guys owned the team for?

A long time.

Are they like that?

1984.

So they were around for the Kirby Puckett.

Kent Herbeck.

Team on my back.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's been a long time.

I mean,

they do the thing that is is the worst in ownership.

I know that, like, obviously, moving a team is, moving a team is the worst.

But putting out a team where all you're trying to do is get to the playoffs a little bit and never actually go for it,

that's bullshit.

It's very frustrating.

Yeah, that's insanely frustrating.

Okay.

So, yeah, the new closer Twins fans rightfully were like, he's always had this walk-up music.

It was more that the Link looked pretty sick when he came in.

The bank.

Sorry.

I get my Phillies.

Yeah, you're good.

You're You're good.

We have Saquon on.

Hank, are you feeling good about your Red Sox?

No, we didn't make a lot of moves at the deadline.

You guys just, yeah, but I think you guys...

You just took over first place in the AL East.

No.

No, you just took over the Yankees in the AL East.

You swept the Astros.

I feel alright.

I'm still running side by side with the bandwagon.

Okay.

Not fully on board yet.

Have you put a foot on?

No, but I've caught up to speed.

Okay.

You've caught up to speed.

We just didn't.

No moves at the deadline.

Yeah, a lot of teams did no moves to the deadline.

Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week?

Yeah.

And then we'll get to our Mount Rushmore, and we will do our interviews.

Saquon was awesome.

Cam Jugens and Lane Johnson were awesome.

Great time.

And we got a couple more Eagles interviews coming.

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Yeah, yes.

So this has been unfolding for since last week.

Started with Gilly, Gilly, the kid.

I was ranting about Jalen Hurts, obviously, you know, one of the biggest homers, biggest ranters, maybe the number one ranter on social media.

Like Gilly, just he can put out, you know, 10 to 20 minutes of videos via rants a day.

But he can also do rants where he doesn't even say anything.

Yeah.

He just stares at the camera, like dances to something.

And you get it, and you're like, I just got ranted.

He didn't open his mouth.

Mm-hmm.

so he was going off about jillen hurts said you know cam newton never got one of these cam newton then went on his show got pretty personal started you know talking about gilly's rap career and and and and kind of took it you know obviously gilly took a shot at him and then cam just went for the the juggular gilly responded and then johnny manzel

from the clouds from the clouds it was gilly's birthday i guess big dom brought the the lombardy to his trophy and then gilly was obviously you know trolling more

and johnny manzel from the cloud just said you may be the biggest fucking loser on the planet talking talking like you've fucking done anything on a football field.

If I see you, just know I'm going to slap the fuck out of you.

Trust.

Did anyone come to Gilly's defense?

One, Stephen Che,

who wrote, Gilly only has seven fewer TD passes, but also has seven less interceptions than you on an NFL football field.

So I'm not sure you're the right guy to gatekeep NFL discussions because you are a nobody in that world, too.

Great college player, though.

Respect.

I like the respect that Johnny

That really makes it all better.

And then Johnny said, and you're the right guy to say anything.

You should blow Dave every single day for your job.

Fuck your respect.

Suck my dick.

That's a lot of dick sucking Steve has to do.

Yeah.

Also, it's me.

He blows me, not Dave, for his job.

And then Steve would just hit him with the, do you like my hat, which is a killer.

It's tough to come back from that one, too.

Also, respect.

So Johnny Manzel's like, this is a beef I didn't see coming.

No, yeah.

And then Gilly did a funny video response with like, you know, flour or something all over his face, just being like,

stay out of the state, stay out of my business.

Yeah, and it all started because I assume Cam went on Johnny's podcast and talked shit about Jalen Hurts.

I think.

Yes.

Okay.

There's just been a lot of Cam Newton versus Jalen Hurts discourse in the last two weeks.

Got it.

And people are simultaneously not appreciating Jalen Hurts for winning Super Bowl and also forgetting that Cam Newton was fucking amazing.

Really good.

Yeah.

He won an MVP.

He did.

Won an MVP.

He got Ron Rivera to the Super Bowl.

Did people don't talk about that?

Remote Ron.

All right.

That was a good one.

Good.

Who's bad?

Who's bad?

Also, Kim Young, first PJ tour one.

Yeah.

Been on the tour for a long time.

I thought he had won before.

Yeah.

Him and like Tommy Fleetwood are kind of the.

Everyone thinks they've won, but they haven't.

Can't win the small one.

What was.

I saw.

He was insane this weekend.

I saw there was like, was it his round two and and round three

combined was like 125 shots?

That's so insane.

Yeah.

They're playing some Mickey Mouse courses these last couple weeks.

But that means like

I mean, there's like he could probably beat me on 36 holes.

I play 18.

If you played 18.

Yeah.

If you play 18 from where he played, where he teed off from,

126 is like right around there.

What would you shoot?

Like 110?

126.

I could probably shoot 126.

They played from so far back.

Yeah, that's crazy, though.

That is nuts.

125 shots

in two days.

Huge win for MLB.

Huge win.

What is his connection again?

He wears the MLB patches.

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

That's right.

He's sponsored by a different team.

That's right.

By MLB.

Yeah, yeah.

That's right.

Okay.

Who's back of the week PFT?

My who's back of the week is Tom Brady.

Oh.

Tom Brady's back.

Hank, did you know know that Tom Brady was back this weekend?

Here?

Tom Brady is having statue day on Friday.

Yeah, A-12.

Oh, that makes sense.

That does make sense.

They're unveiling the statue.

They were going to do it last year, but then they canceled it because

I think he had a concussion, and then Fox wasn't going to send their A-team, so Tom Brady didn't go to that game.

So they canceled it.

Now they're doing it preseason, week one.

Preseason.

Against the Commanders.

Against the Commanders.

That's true.

We talked about this.

But do you think lighting the lighthouse?

Gotta be.

I don't know.

I don't think so.

What?

I don't think he is.

It's a statue day.

That's a lot of stuff he has to do.

How long does it take to get down?

What if the statue is on the lighthouse?

That would be sick.

What if they should just redo the lighthouse?

Like the Statue of Liberty, but Tom Brays.

Yes.

Yes.

With like a semi-limp football in his hand.

That would rock.

Actually, that would be one way for me to come completely around on this fucking fake lighthouse.

If it's in the shape of Tom Brady.

And the back of his jersey just says lighthouse.

Yeah.

I hope he does the.

I think he already has, though.

I think he might have done it first or second, but they have the book up there.

That means he would scroll by my page.

But wait, Hank, they don't actually light the lighthouse.

Ring the bell.

You ring the bell.

Yeah.

At the lighthouse.

But you sign the book.

Every keeper of the light signs a book.

And so when he's scrolling through it, he'll be like, oh, there's my guy.

Patriots legend.

Also, Vrabel went on Frank Walks and was like, I hope to one day get to a point where they would go to jail for us, this team, talk about the Brady 4.

I'm there, Vrabel.

Oh, already?

You're already ready?

I'm already there.

Yeah,

I would literally

kill a man for Mike Vrabel.

Did you see Brady at Raiders' camp?

No.

Oh, yeah.

He was all over the place.

How's he looking?

It basically confirms that anyone who puts on any Raiders logos looks cool all the time.

That is awesome.

It's an all-time hat logo,

the silver and black.

Yeah, he looks cool.

Yeah, there was a bunch of there's a bunch of, he was at the practice.

I'm not a huge fan of that.

He was at the practice where Pete Carroll was throwing false flags.

If you're a Raiders fan, you like the fact that Tom Brady owns your team or has an ownership stake.

Yeah.

You like that.

But also, is there a part of you that's seeing him wearing the silver and black makes you be like, that motherfucker.

Why can't he just play?

With a tuck rule.

Oh, yeah.

But also, why can't he just play, probably?

It would just give you flashbacks of, like, what, what's going on right now.

Because he looks like he could play still.

He does.

So, like, that would be the, hey, why can't you just play when, you know, although Gino, they got Gino.

What if something happens to Gino?

What if he gets banged up or something this year?

You think Tom Brady would think about it?

It would definitely be

Jay Smith's take.

Yeah.

It would cross his mind.

I think it would cross his mind.

Yeah, he was, yeah, with John Spytek, our friend John Spytek, who was Brady's college teammate in Michigan, who's the GM of the Raiders now.

Yeah.

I think

I might buy some Raiders

stock this year just because of Geno and Pete Carroll.

Seeing Pete Carroll, what was that?

And Brady.

No, I don't think that he has anything to do with them being good this year, unless he plays, but it's more of the Geno and Pete.

Pete Carroll is like the Raiders have been all over the place.

Pete Carroll feels like there's going to be some consistency there.

He's running at practice.

He's old, but he's young.

I think maybe Christian Wilkins saw Tom Brady wearing that Raiders, and he was like, you look good.

You look real good, Tom.

Mm-hmm.

Let's get weird with it.

Let me kiss you on the top of your head.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Is that your only who's back?

Yeah, just Tom Brady.

My Who's Pack.

Why is Hank didn't take it?

Well,

we talked about the

Statue Day a couple weeks ago, like a month ago.

But Statue Week.

The week's here.

Well, it's next week, if it's 8-12.

it might not be 812 i might have just made that up i thought it was going to be this friday this upcoming friday not 812.

he made that up 612 was birdie day

okay wow you're firing today

i think i've hang over hank again

when i said that i really knew it when i said the they should throw a pocket pussy on and then i said asa career and he's like no that was a pocket pussy

when i said 812 you're like oh yeah it makes sense well yeah i I mean, it did.

You just threw it out there.

And then I looked and I was like, that's a Tuesday.

Okay, they're playing on a Tuesday.

So it's Friday?

88.

88 degrees.

It's 88 this Friday.

All right, my who's back of the week is the Miami Marlins.

Because the Miami Marlins

swept the Yankees for the first time in franchise history, they also

have been playing awesome ball.

They're back to 500.

Miami Marlins are 31-15 since June 9th.

They're 26-10 since mid-June.

They might sneak away into the playoffs.

Six games out of the wild card.

I don't know.

Fun story going on in Miami.

Crazy to think that they're so far ahead of the Braves right now.

They are.

If you were to say that at the start of the season, people would think you're insane.

But yeah, I mean, the fish are good.

Yeah, they also are the only team in MLB history that do not have a losing record against the New York Yankees in the regular season.

That's That's kind of crazy.

Kind of crazy.

And they have overall a winning record when you include the 2003 World Series.

And this was their first sweep.

And this was their first sweep of them.

All right.

Yeah, pretty nuts.

Saw Marlinsman at the game.

Well, that was also part of it.

Motherfucker.

Marlin's Man.

No, I didn't mean to say that.

Marlin's

Man is also back.

I mean, listen, he might be the reason why the Marlins are back.

I think his little companion might be the reason.

Yeah, Marlinsman.

Let's see.

He said,

Althena visiting from Hawaii.

Sweet girl.

Her TikTok is some

random chick.

Some random chick.

So go follow her.

And then what was his follow-up?

No, we don't need to see the follow-up.

The follow-up was...

That was the end of that story.

That's the end of that reporting.

His header is stolen Valor, by the way.

He's not actually a fighter pilot.

Okay, keep going.

Yeah, the loser would pretend to do that.

Yeah, he then tweeted out her TikTok.

He said, for those that don't know her, she is super smart, really nice, and very good family.

And no, I am not cheating on.

He's not cheating on that person because they don't have a relationship.

So, yes, I agree.

Now, she is still a 10.

Is that

for some random chick?

I think he's talking about she is still a 10 for some random chick.

That's Alphina.

But yeah, Marlins Man's back.

I mean, rough and rowdy, Marlin's Man.

That'd be a sick undercard for Johnny Manzel against Gilly.

Yeah.

Some random chick now.

Max is looking up some random chick.

She's nice, looks like a nice lady.

Comes from a good family.

Yeah.

Marlinsman said it all.

Really nice.

Really nice woman.

She looks smart.

Yeah.

The Marlins are back, though.

Good story.

Is that it?

I don't want them to get in the playoffs.

That's not a video of her making out with Marlins Man, is it?

Where?

On her TikTok?

She's making out with somebody.

No, that's not Marlin's Man.

No, that's not Marlon's Man.

Okay, good.

No.

That's another woman.

Hmm.

They can do that?

Apparently.

It's awesome.

Zach, your who's back.

My who's back of the week is Mr.

Beast.

Okay.

So Mr.

Beast had put together a clean water initiative, hashtag Team Water.

And in just two days, they've raised like, I think it's like $6.7 million for clean water around the world.

They say each dollar donated will provide one person clean water for an entire year.

So they've gotten together like a bunch of different.

Sounds like Chris Long's thing.

The Water Boys.

Yeah.

He just stole Chris Long's idea.

Could be similar.

But I just thought it was an all-time thing to, in two days, bring that much water to the people.

He's bringing a lot of water to the people.

So

if you'd like to donate, please go over there.

Anybody listening, maybe donate some clean water.

Zach, can you do the Mr.

Beast face for all your thumbnails from now on?

I can do that for you, PFT.

I think that's a good face.

Yeah.

Oh, we also should have mentioned Luca's back because he signed his extension with the Lakers.

Yeah.

And looks very skinny.

And he is going to make a billion dollars.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And in salary.

This was actually like kind of a big deal because the Lakers didn't have,

they didn't have like the financial trump card against other teams like they would have, like the Mavericks.

Yeah.

So they did have to kind of sell him on it.

But yeah,

he's officially going to be a Laker for at least, what, the next three years?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Two years.

And he's taking the stance of like, I just get in good shape every offseason.

This offseason was no different.

Yeah, nothing to do with the contract.

Nothing to do with everybody talking about how I was fat and then also being due for a contract.

Yeah, nothing.

He does look great.

He looks very skinny.

Yeah, there was a picture of him because he was at the national card show.

He looked very skinny.

Good for Luca.

And also, he, I think the first thing he did was the first thing Luca Doncic did with his new contract or signing his new contract.

I bet you guys won't guess it.

Because it made me laugh.

For Luca?

In and out.

Smoked a cigarette.

No, he went to Las Vegas to see the Backstreet Boys at the sphere.

Very cool.

Pretty awesome.

Pretty fucking cool.

See the winner.

Where else would you want to go with the boys?

Where else would you want to go with the boys?

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Okay.

Mount Rushmore of words that begin with Q or things that begin with Q.

There was controversy on Friday?

There was no controversy on Friday.

Oh, wait, there was.

There was a lot of controversy.

Memes.

It shouldn't count.

You're a sleazebag.

I'm not a sleazebag.

I'm not a sleazebag.

You're a sleazebag.

How am I sleazebag?

Because you tweeted out the video of the video.

I didn't tweet out anything.

I didn't forget about this.

I didn't tweet out anything.

Yeah, you did.

No.

You did.

The Mount Rushmore should be voided immediately because it was tweeted out by the Barcelona main account that has 30.2 million followers cross-platform.

And then you tweeted.

You tweeted the video.

How'd you let them get access to it?

Good question.

Great question.

I didn't send them the folder.

Who Who did?

Funnels through you.

It's your department.

It is your department.

Well, your buddies with head is social.

This could have been a social.

He's head of research, my personal head of research.

Yeah, so this could have been a collusion attempt to take down Rushmore.

Who won Rushmore?

Oh, now it's interesting.

Your good friend Gaz.

Me and PFT won.

Yeah, everybody knows PFT

are the favorite characters of the show.

Your good friend Pazza.

You were in that meeting when that guy said that.

Number one host.

But I don't have access to, I don't, I don't have access to those videos.

It is interesting that

the team that came in last is the one team that doesn't have millions of followers.

I think it's interesting that memes tweeted out the video.

I didn't tweet out the video.

I'm looking at the video right now, tweeted at 11.11 a.m.

on Friday from at Pardon My Meme.

Yes, I was bringing attention that

it was already tweeted out.

Did you tweet the video out?

I didn't tweet it out.

I quote tweeted the video that was posted.

So your followers were all big memes.

So are you saying you could be a part of my take fan and not a barstool fan?

I'm saying that those people might exist.

Yes.

Yeah.

No.

Absolutely.

Those people could exist.

That they don't exist.

They do exist.

If you follow my account, you follow the Barcelona.

So you said, hey, this is people that are

part of my take, yak.

Calling the memes army to go vote for you.

No, but if you're not Barstool, but if you follow my account, you probably follow that account.

No, there's tons of accounts.

There's 6.6 million people that follow that.

There's tons of memes heads out there.

Oh, yeah.

So

I brought it to your guys' attention immediately saying, how did this happen?

This should be voided.

And the vote shouldn't count.

And nobody responded.

Well,

I don't know how it happened.

You're the one who works in the social department.

You are our social department.

I'm the PMT social department.

Can't different department.

Can't you say those ground rules?

Can't you be like, hey, we don't tweet this out until after the poll is over?

Probably should.

It seems like something that if you rectified that, yeah.

We'll set a meeting.

We'll do a meeting tomorrow, memes.

Okay.

So it doesn't count.

Me and gas.

It counts.

I mean, you've tried to rig this every which way.

Let's go, Hank.

Nothing.

All right.

Mount Rushmore, things that begin with Q.

Who's up first?

I believe we are up first.

Okay.

I did no fighting.

I'm done fighting.

The one time he didn't.

Yeah, Meeves was mad that I didn't fight.

I said, I'm done fighting.

I fought so much last week.

My watch has ended.

I'm going into this week with good vibes.

I was bad vibes last week.

My fight guy.

My fight guy didn't want to fight.

I know, I didn't want to fight.

He wasn't there for you.

I believe PFT and Hank are first.

And then Zach and I are second?

Yes.

Okay.

All right, for the 1-1 things that start with Q, PFT, and will take Queso.

Oh, good pick, Hank.

Yeah.

Great pick.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Keso's amazing.

We'll go with the most important position in all sports, quarterback.

Yeah, that too.

Have to.

Max is going Kinsiniera.

Hank, Hank, what did I put on the list?

This is.

We have to actually, like,

I said, do not pick Kinsiniera parties.

Let Max take it.

He's sick.

He's done fighting.

Zach goes, we were just brain-dumping words.

He knows he thought it.

He knows he thought it.

We were brain-dumping words.

And Zach goes, you ever been to a Kinson-Yara?

And I was like, no.

And Max is going to pick it anyway.

He definitely thought it.

All right, so what's your...

Wait, so were you guys deciding between Queso and quarterback?

Yeah, we were.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that was, it was literally going to be whatever you guys didn't go, we were going to go.

He has a list on his phone.

Oh, we got to go.

We got to auto-draft, Kinsenier.

Oh, no, no.

It goes right to the highest value.

There's a relatable one to this situation.

No, you have to fill out your roster.

It's like when you auto-draft on, you know, when you take a kicker in the seventh round,

no one here has taken, you know, underage girl parties, so Max has to take it.

When is he coming back?

He might just have quit.

Can I say something real quick?

This is a filler for Max to come back.

Doing this exercise with the letter Q, there are so many words that I don't know why, but in my head, I was like, that doesn't start with Q.

And then I, like,

I don't, I don't know why I didn't think, like, queso, I was like, oh, yeah, that does, because it's, like, kind of a C.

I started looking at the lowercase Q so much that it started to melt my brain.

It was like, what is that letter?

Yeah.

It looks like a P.

I was mad at myself that I was just like, holy shit, you're so dumb.

Yeah.

You just didn't even realize these words start with Q.

Also, a lot of Q words that don't even have U next to it.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Is he coming back?

Memes, I think you got to go.

Memes, memes, we're going to pick Kinson Yaro if he doesn't come back.

No, they said they're going to auto-draft.

He just said it's fast word.

Did that get picked up?

Oh, man.

The FBI is going to get a hold of that.

All right.

We're going to go quesadilla.

Okay.

All right.

Pickens Nira.

Just do it.

Can't do it.

And then we'll go Queen Latifah.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Take our pillow.

Holy shit.

Wow.

Okay.

Wow.

He's going to be so mad when he comes back in.

Wow.

Queen Latifah Max.

We go five.

I like five.

He's a great pick.

Yeah.

This is one Zach didn't even think of.

And when I said it out loud, his eyes lit up and he was so excited.

Okay.

Go ahead.

We would like to take quarter pounder.

Quarter pounder, McDonald's.

That's a good pick.

He was like, oh, shit.

That's a good pick.

How did I not even think about it?

That check goats.

I didn't think we had that big hat.

All right, Hank, you got this, bro.

Thanks, bro.

Come on, little bro.

We want parentheses, McDonald's.

No.

Why?

No, quarter-pounder.

What?

Quarter-pounder?

Yeah.

You picked a quarter-pounder.

McDonald's.

Quarter-pounder.

Come on.

That's PFF.

Are we really going to quarter-pounder?

It's things that start with Q, no.

Yeah, but it's parentheses.

No, quarter-pounder.

Are you guys serious?

PFT, you agree that's ridiculous.

It's a burnt.

It's a burn.

Okay, I.

I honestly think that quarter-pounder looks better.

Okay.

But if you want, I'm fine with you wanting if you want it, you can have it.

You're being a real dick.

I think putting parentheses McDonald's, it hurts their case.

We are going to take Quentin Tarantino movies.

Okay.

Good pick.

Add it on the list.

And then with our third pick,

we are going to take,

just based off the movie, never actually had any myself, but Qualutes.

Okay.

Good pick.

Okay, now drug guys.

Not drug guys.

Not drug guys.

Tucsie and Qualutes.

Yeah.

Not drug guys.

Long before the tooth,

there was the Qs.

Got you.

Get loose.

Okay.

What do we want to do here?

I like 12 or maybe 10.

What do you think?

What about 6?

See, he's good.

It just sounds like you don't love 6.

I like 6.

Not much of a 6 guy?

No, he doesn't sound like he likes 6.

6 can get overstimulating sometimes.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

You want to go 12?

Let's go 12.

Think?

It is the.

No, you know what?

You pick.

I like

your choice.

The balls in your court.

Let's go.

Don't take whatever you think is going to do the best.

They're all great picks.

We have a great list.

I like your instincts.

Go with your instincts.

Go with your gut.

Okay, we're going to take Quavo.

Okay.

From Migos.

Okay.

There we go.

R.I.P.

Skirt, skirt.

Nope.

He's not dead.

You don't know what I meant by R.I.P.

He's not dead.

Definitely not dead.

Rap in peace.

Okay.

Okay,

Max is back.

Fill him in.

Memes made a bad pick.

No, I like Queen Latifah.

He took Queen Latifah number two.

What's your favorite Queen Latifah song?

I don't know.

She's a queen.

Okay.

No one's done this, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll take Queen the Band.

Okay, good pick.

Had it on our list.

We got.

You want to do the cartoon?

Don't.

You think that...

What?

I think he's overstaying.

Were you thinking of

Doug Funny's Ultra Ego?

No, that was on my list.

It's a good pick.

Can I pick it?

I think.

Max, if I can interject real quick, I think the Queen Latifah pick is going to be the end of your guys' draft here.

Giggity.

It doesn't really matter.

I don't care.

Queen Latifa is a good pick.

What

funny is?

say or song?

You're a big Queen Latifah fan?

Yeah, a lot of people.

In the second round?

I love Queen Latifah.

Okay.

She did that movie scene where she rode a bike through the city.

Okay.

Taxi.

Taxi driver.

Okay.

What are you thinking?

Shane likes her.

Pick it.

As do Quagmire.

Okay.

Okay.

Zach, I think we should go with 11 just because if we're being true to ourselves and what made us laugh the most.

Rip it.

Okay.

Our last pick, we're going to take quitting.

No better feeling.

We have that in the list, too.

Yeah.

Quitting is quitting's good.

Especially if you're losing.

Yeah.

Just quitting.

I don't think that'll look good on a graph.

Okay at all.

That's fine.

You quit on this Mount Rushmore.

Quitting is.

You literally just quit.

Quitting is so satisfying.

And it felt good.

It's the best feeling.

If you ever quit a job you don't like, best fucking feeling in the world.

When I quit golf for those three days, I felt awesome.

Just being like, you know what?

I'm not going to do this thing anymore.

Yeah.

It's so good.

This thing sucks.

I can do anything now that I'm not doing this old thing again.

Yeah.

All right.

I don't know, PFT.

There was a lot of picks left on the board.

There are a lot of picks left on the board.

There's tons, Hank.

Do we go with what's better for society?

Do we go with what's.

You guys should play it to yourself.

I've got to like more.

I've got an interest to see what Hank thinks is better for society.

Well, there's one obvious one that's great for society.

We played one that

we thought was funny to ourselves.

Don't pander to the board.

I'm not pandering.

I'm just trying to make the best pick on the board.

Okay.

Hank, I would say

I'm going to highlight it.

Okay.

Is this the one that you're saying is good for society?

It's our second thing.

Oh, no, don't pick that.

Okay.

Oh, you got to pick it now.

That's a bad pick.

Pick it.

I would say either the one, I would say number three or number five.

All right.

Five is a good one.

All right, we're going to go with five.

We're going to go quests.

Quests.

Anytime you do anything

and you say it's a quest instead of like, I'm going to the grocery store, but you say I was on a quest, it just sounds fun.

It's awesome.

Anything you do that can even somehow be described as a quest is fun.

It's an adventure.

Yeah.

Like if someone asks you to go on a quest, it doesn't matter what it is, it already sounds more fun than just like going on a trip.

What was left off?

What was the last time you went on a quest?

Oh, dude, you'd go on quests all the time.

Yeah.

Last night?

Yeah, I haven't gone on any quests, but Zach, I'm being honest, Zach was high on it, so I have have to back up my teammate.

I can't.

He was like, when Zach goes to McDonald's, that might be a quest.

Quest, definitely.

What were you guys deciding between Max?

We honestly didn't have much on the board.

You didn't have anything left?

No.

I'm happy you talked me out of quantum physics, BFT.

Yeah, that's what Hank thought was good for society.

It is.

MRI, lasers, GPS, like so many great things that we use in our day-to-day life are direct results of quantum physics.

Without quantum physics, MRIs

are results of quantum physics.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

A lot of things.

I just said, I didn't want you to box yourself into the corner when you would have to then explain what quantum physics were.

Yeah.

What do we got?

LEDs.

What do we got?

Mobile phones.

GPS.

We had Quad Box.

Yep.

Had that.

That was six that we were thinking about.

That was it.

Quad Box is for sure a better pick than Quest's.

No.

Quad Box is a good pick.

That was one that we almost went with.

We had Quebec.

Okay.

Queens of the Stone Age?

Yep.

Doesn't Canada hate people from Quebec?

Isn't that like the red-headed stepchild of Canada?

I think it's more like people from Quebec don't really like the rest of Canada.

Yeah.

Qdoba?

Qdoba.

Yeah, that's a good one.

I think the best pick that we had that we didn't pick, but it would have, who knows how it would look and everything.

But quilted toilet paper, three ply.

That's the best.

That's a good one.

You know, you got it.

I mean, you can't go to two ply, one ply.

God damn it.

I think it would have depended on the parentheses, and I feel like we would have got overruled.

But if we could have put quarters, the drinking game

would have been a good pick.

I feel like you guys would have just made it to say quarters.

Yeah.

No.

I mean, I had, I had,

I was trying to figure out Brady Quinn's spiral.

Didn't really work.

Qui-Gon Gin.

There was a moment that, uh, no, I don't know what that is.

Star Wars episode one?

I've never seen that.

I don't know.

You got our natural reaction.

I saw that on the list.

I was going to pretend that I knew what you were talking about.

Liam Meeson, he's like the most, yeah, whatever.

Dark Wall kills them.

Zach threw out questions, and I go, why?

And he goes, exactly.

There you go.

He got me.

He got me good with that.

You don't learn much if you don't ask questions.

What'd you say about questions?

That's how we learn everything.

Without questions, we have nothing.

We have literally nothing.

I thought something similar, and for just a question mark and just having the graphic have a question mark.

But that's not a key.

That would be abstract, but confusing, but I don't think it would have played.

I don't think it would have played.

But, like, think of how often people use the question mark.

Yeah.

Hank put Quantum of Solids on there.

Okay.

Actually, bad movie, though, unfortunately.

Quakers, the religion.

Shout out my Quakers out there.

My friends.

Quiet Car on the Train.

Quiet Car.

Pretty good.

Pretty nice when you get it.

Quasars.

Zach's going to be up all night.

I got him on Quasars.

What are Quasars?

Quasars are like super black holes that like shoot a huge fucking light through it.

That's pretty rad.

Yeah.

Qatar, the country?

Look up quasars.

I know the Amir is a listener right now.

Mr.

Amir, hope you're finding your day to be peaceful and bountiful as always.

Yeah.

Yeah, not a lot.

How do you spell this?

Quasar.

Quirky.

Yeah, there you go.

A quasar is a very luminous, distant galactic nucleus powered by a supermassive black hole.

These objects are incredibly bright, sometimes outshining entire galaxies.

Quasars are thought to be powered by material falling into a supermassive black hole.

You lost me.

Which heats up and emits intense radiation as it spirals inward.

Look at that.

Look at the visual of it.

That is pretty sick.

It's fucking awesome.

Yeah, it's like God peeing into a toilet.

Yeah.

It's so sick.

Yeah.

Quasars.

Get everyone onto quasars.

The QAnon shaman.

Yes.

QAnon.

That guy rocks.

QVC Network.

Okay, yeah.

Really fun.

Shopping.

Really fun.

I don't know if this would play, but I've always just kind of been interested in it.

Quicksand.

Is it real?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Kind of cool.

I said Quakers.

Quakers.

I don't really know anything about them.

I said Quakers, too.

You know one.

Keishes?

Penn.

Me.

You're a Quaker?

I'm a Quaker, bro.

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah.

I just know the Penn Quaker.

I don't have to fight in a war.

It's really sick.

That is.

like i feel like you said that on macrodosing and that was never talked about on this show he's said it before life hack really become Quaker so you don't have to serve

I don't what the military part the Quaker just

you he's a Quaker yeah he's well I think he said that he was raised as a Quaker I was I haven't been to meeting in probably 30 years that's what it's called yeah meeting called meeting friends meeting what yeah it's called the society of friends what the fuck you just you just you just kind of hang out in silence there's no real leader and then if you're compelled to speak, you speak.

Sometimes people talk a lot.

Do they read?

Is there any like

literally?

What's on your mind, memes?

Memes has a banger right now.

Do they have oatmeal?

We do not make oatmeal.

Okay.

I've never produced oatmeal.

Although I do enjoy it.

Memes, what's the banger that you're thinking of?

No, does the tallest person stand up in the meeting and they're the lead?

Yeah.

Yep, that's what happens.

That's why I quit.

That's why I stopped going.

Such a dick.

Quality time with the boys.

Zach had that one.

That's a good one.

Zach, rip off a couple that you had.

What do you guys think about Quartz Countertops?

You guys had a pretty good idea.

They were fantastic in kitchens.

Quartz in general, I think, is an underrated material.

Definitely beautiful.

Yeah.

Queer Eye of the Show?

Yeah.

I've never watched it, but

it's an iconic show.

Do you think this would have played in any way because it's such a funny word, queef?

We talked about it.

Yeah.

Don't really know.

I enjoy a good Kweef.

It's funny.

It's funny to call someone a Kweef or say the word Kweef.

Yeah, it's funny.

I don't know if

an actual Kweef would be funny.

Quake, the video game?

Yeah.

Good game.

Quayhog is the town from Family Guy.

Is it also like a clam or an oyster?

Yep.

Love a guy who does a quick pitch.

Yeah, quick pitches are good.

Pretty awesome.

Quick trip.

Baseball.

The gas station?

Yeah.

What else we got?

There's some Quentin Richardson.

Quentin Richardson.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

Quinn Snyder.

That was good.

Quincy Doobie.

Quincy Acey.

What?

Zach said a quickie.

Quickie.

Quickie, yeah.

That's all I know.

Same.

Quickie.

Same.

Read the shirt.

All right.

Quicksilver.

If you want to look like you're a surfer.

Yeah, surfer.

Bro.

Q-tips.

Q-tips.

I love a good Q-tip.

What do you hate about Q-tips?

I just feel like I'm hitting my brain.

Yeah, it probably is that close.

Mm-hmm.

Just scraping your brain.

Not a Q-tip guy.

Okay.

Quiznos.

Yeah.

Quiznos was so good.

Quiznos, I was out on it.

Oh, the toast.

No, but they toasted the

experience the prime of Quiznos.

Yeah.

Quiznos was its prime, like 2000 to 2004, 2005.

It was different.

Quiznos and Sonic

had so many commercials on, and neither of them were anywhere near where I lived growing up.

So they were like exotic.

Like anytime I could get Quiznos or Sonic, I was like, this is huge.

This is a huge day.

Quiznos had like the little mini toasted ones, like the wraps.

Those were, yeah, around like 2008, it was hot.

They were so good.

And then Subway realized, hey, we can also put a giant toaster in our restaurant.

Yeah, this could work for us as well.

Okay.

Any other?

Oh, quiche.

I think we said that.

But quiches are good.

They're very French, but they're good.

They're okay.

Yeah.

Quinoa.

You don't like quiche?

Rather than do an omelette.

The quinoa is gross.

The quinoa is gross.

Quinoa is

garbage.

Healthy.

Garbage.

Super healthy.

Garbage.

If you ask me, would I rather have a quiche or an omelette?

I'm doing omelette.

Well, yeah, but that's not what.

That's a quiche is not for an omelette setting.

A quiche is for going to someone's house for like a breakfast.

Like, you know what I mean?

I like a quiche better than an octave.

They have like bagels and shit set up.

If you're going to give me the option of having like the baked pastry egg thing, I'm going frittata.

Yeah, but you see what I'm saying?

Like, I'm talking quiches.

You're ordering a quiche at a restaurant.

Correct.

But quiches are perfect for if you show up to someone, someone's like, hey, we're going to have breakfast.

You know, come over to our house.

There's a quiche there.

Isn't a frittata just a quiche without the pie crust?

It's frittata.

Yeah, and the pie crust is awesome.

The pie crust is great.

Frittada.

Give me the frittata.

Hey, it's good to have you back, Max.

Talk about food.

Me and you,

this is our spot.

Yeah.

The pie crust.

It is.

Keish.

We came back on Keisha's.

Yeah, I like Keish.

I like Kishish.

I think Keisha's superior to Frittada.

Okay.

Any others?

Zach, did you have any others that you had that you were trying to throw around there?

I was pre-tapped.

But

Quizlet, the

flashcard website.

Yep.

Also, quizzes.

No, I hate quizzes.

Oh, I think quizzes are because it's not a test.

And it's never going to be graded like a test.

And it's pretty quick.

I kind of like a quiz.

I guess I could see it for an honorable mention, but no, no chance that's on the.

No, no, you can't pick it.

But I

always didn't hate quizzes because you're like, oh, okay.

There's going to be like, what, 10 questions here?

And it's going to be like 1% of your grade.

Who cares?

Queen Latifah, though.

Good pick.

Throw a quiz at me.

Queen Latifah.

You said quest.

Yeah, quests.

Like, you can't say Queen Latifah is a terrible pick when when you have Quests on the board.

All of Queen Latifah's movies are about her going on Quests.

Wait, you don't like Quests?

Quests?

What does that even mean?

It's a little goofy.

Again, I got to back my guy, Zach, though.

It's a great pick.

Queen Latifah is the best.

I got to keep his confidence.

Imagine if we just get, like, a bayhive of Queen Latifah fans, and these guys just fucking crush this draft.

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Now, here's Saquon Barkley.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest,

the best running back in the NFL.

It is Grit Week presented by Hey Dude.

It's Saquon Barkley, Super Bowl champ.

Saquon, thank you for joining us.

First question that we start every Grit Week interview with is: what does the word grit mean to you?

What does the word grit mean to me?

I feel like it's just all about having that mentality of

finding ways to get through it, whether it's adversity or ups and downs, find a way to battle in.

You know, and right now we're kind of in that mentality in camp where you got to have that grit on those hot days, on the long days in the summer, and all that stuff adds up for you to have a great year.

Yeah.

Can you have fun while you're being gritty?

Like while things suck here in camp, is it still fun for you?

Yeah, I think you have certain ways you do it.

For me, it's like the competitive sides come out so you know throughout the grit i sometimes i'll just talk shit and say crazy stuff to the defense don't really even mean it but um it helps me get through it it pumps them up uh and it just gets the juices flowing even more yeah by the way congrats on well not only the super bowl but madden cover that's pretty damn cool madden's coming out uh and like obviously you played it as a kid when you found out that you were gonna be on the cover of madden were you like holy shit this is insane yeah i say this all the time every time anytime someone asked me that question, they actually ask you, Do you want to be on the cover of Madden?

Right, yeah.

Well, imagine if you said no.

Like, I wonder how many people have ever

you have to, they just ask you first, and like, you have to accept being on the cover of Madden.

And, like, to me, I'm like, I mean, why would I ever say that?

Yeah, that's not even a question.

Why would I ever say no?

But, you know, being on the cover of Madden and just how many guys that I grew up watching and been fans of, you know, watching football for a very long time and to be in that fraternity now,

it's something that you know it's

my kids is going to always be able to go back and you know go to this certain madden and see their dad on it and my my nieces and nephews and my teammates seeing it so it's cool it's really cool and 99 rating 99 that's

that's that's i don't gotta i don't gotta go uh choose him up yeah i don't gotta go and edit my player and make myself a 99 anymore yeah uh but this cool 99 madden and like madden's just like part of the culture of football and growing up like you want to make it to NFL, but you think about being a 99 overall.

You think about being on the cover Madden, being in Madden in general.

So my life has been super, super amazing.

Yeah.

So

you still play Madden?

Yeah, of course.

You play with yourself?

I play Madden in a weird way, right?

I guess it's not really that weird, but to me, like, I play franchise mode.

I go on, I'll take a team, I'll trade all their great players, get as many draft picks as I can, and then draft random guys and kind of make a rebuild.

So that's like how I play Madden.

Are you playing with the Eagles?

No, we're pretty good.

So I don't.

So who are you playing with?

I'll pick a random team.

What team are you playing with right now?

Right now is probably either the Jets or the Rams.

Okay.

You might win a Super Bowl with the Jets.

So that's what I do.

Like, I'll get it.

You can scout players and you can draft, and

I'll get a good quarterback, good running back, and I'll basically trade all the guys, like any player you think on that team.

Yeah.

And get as many picks as I can and then rebuild, get a new random coach and take them to the championship.

That's kind of how the Jets' real gm yeah plays plays madden too you could be the jets gm hey listen i will i will stay away from that i'm a jets fan growing up not a i'm not a fan anymore but a jets a jets fan growing up so uh i know the struggles um but i also know the the glory days with mark sanchez and the boys so uh i'm gonna let the let those guys be gms i'm gonna stick to the running football a little bit yeah i mean it's it's big for the position of running back too to have representation on the cover of madden back to back and be like yeah that's right because it was uh christian murseffee right?

So, are running backs back?

I don't think running backs ever left, in my opinion.

I think it was just something that,

you know, people had some fun with, I guess.

It was one offseason where it was.

It was one-off season.

Zoom call.

Exactly.

And

they didn't want to pay certain guys, and they had the tag at their advantage.

And I think, you know, looking at both sides is a smart thing for them to do.

But it's football.

You got to be able to play great defense and you got to be able to run the ball.

And when you run the ball, people think about just the running back position.

It takes all of us.

And you just see the two guys out here.

They're a big product of that.

But our offensive line, our tight ends, our scheme,

you don't rush for 2,000 yards by accident.

And it takes a group to do that.

So

you need to run the ball well and play great defense to be able to compete at a high level.

Have you thought about, or maybe you've done this, apologizing to Joe Shane for just the fact that that.

clip just goes viral all the time.

You kind of rubbed it in.

Like 2,000 yards.

Yeah.

You could have done a little bit worse.

I think, you know, it's kind of on them.

When you look at it from the inside, like they have to sign off on that and make the decision for that clip to go out there.

And that's what they did.

But it's funny because you would think from social media, like there's this big beef with me and Joe Shane and like the Giants.

And in reality, like we're all, you know, I still talk to them here and there before the game.

I got to see all of them before the game last year, the end of the season, where I didn't end up playing, but got to see them and they were super happy for me for rushing for 2 000 yards the week prior it's a business the nfl is a weird business you know obviously uh i'm not a fan of that side of it when it comes to the money side but um

you know those guys were a big reason why i was able to get back like before i had an acl at ankle and dage and all those guys came in and believed in me and trusted in me and kind of helped me get my swagger back in is a big reason why you see the type of play i am right now yeah i think if the hard knocks clip didn't exist it wouldn't be it just was I mean, it basically all his nightmares came true.

I'm kind of happy though.

It saved me.

Yeah.

How so?

People thought, like, oh, yeah, I just, you know what I mean?

So you got to see, it depends.

Like, you have fans that, you know, they're just blinded by it.

And they're just like, oh, he just left.

Right.

You got to see that.

It's like, yes, we had a negotiated process the year before, but that year, you know, they gave me an opportunity to hit the open market, which was the right thing to do by the Giants.

A lot of people don't talk about that.

Like, they didn't have to do that.

So for Joe Shane and all those guys over there to be like the right thing to do by by him is to let him test the market and i gave them the opportunity to match it you know obviously they felt like i wasn't worth what they thought that number was and best thing ever happened to me yeah i'm here i'm in philly i'm with howie i'm with big dom with all these guys i got the best offensive line of football uh we just came off a super bowl win and things are are are continuing to go great yeah yeah was there was there a part of you that thought like is Philly really the right choice because of that rivalry against the Giants?

And obviously you're close with a lot of guys on the Giants, right?

Still to this day.

Yeah, no.

It never, like, I used to hate Philly.

I tell these guys all the time.

Literally the week leading, the year leading into my last year in New York, we lost to Philly in the playoffs.

We lost to him three times in a row.

And, you know, I was tagged, so I couldn't go into the building, but I would still hang out with the guys like in offseason programs and throwing trips.

And like we would break it down on F the Eagles on three.

Like we felt like that was a team that we needed to beat to get to the level that we wanted to get to.

So the thing about me choosing and coming to Philadelphia, like I knew I would get some backlash from some fans.

But when you really, we put a list, me and my family put a list of pros and cons.

And the only con that stuck out was people might be upset.

It's like, I can't make.

you know, decisions based on my life off of what people feel like.

And I think so far it showed that I made the right decision.

Yeah, I'd say so.

I'd say so.

You won.

No, it's a lot.

It's not about who won.

It doesn't go like that with just one year.

For me, it's coming here, one, like I wanted to expand my legacy because I feel like the player that I want to be is still out there.

But the thing that I've learned coming here, like I want to be a Hall of Fame type of player, but this organization is outstanding.

From top to bottom, the type of people that they have, like every section you could think of, whether it's coaches, whether the staff, whether the training room, like they're just unbelievable people.

So it's cool winning Super Balls and breaking records, but to be able to have

myself attached to this organization means even more.

What you just said about being the player that you want to be is really interesting because you've been a great running back in the league for a while, but you've, I think you've evolved too in terms of your style, like picking up new things.

What's something that like when you got into the league, you made an effort to get better at a certain part of your game that maybe you weren't so strong at, that's evolved yourself into what you are right now?

I think it's just understanding the scheme, letting the game come to me.

I feel like when I was younger, I tried to force it.

And it's funny, ironically enough, last year I had the longest touchdown runs I've ever had

as an NFL player.

But in the beginning, you know, I always trusted my speed and my athletic ability that I knew I could make that jump cut and get to wherever hole I want to.

That sometimes I would try to make something out of nothing when there was no need.

Now it's just knowing, like, no, taking that four, taking that three.

And when the opportunity comes, got to make him pay for it.

Yeah, when you get outside, I feel like this last year, if you got outside, it was like, okay, he's just going to score a touchdown right now.

Yeah, I got faster somehow.

I'm not going to lie.

But is it really that I get super, did I get that much fast from 28 to 21?

I want to say now I just got more efficient with my movements.

And there's no secret to it because when I'm here training every Thursday,

I'm hitting high speeds.

I'm working on my mechanics every, you know, every single day with Eddie and Nano and D-Wood and Alden and Ben and all those guys.

So just the work that I put in throughout the whole season, it showed up on the field and it showed up on Sundays.

And that's the cool thing.

Everyone gets to see the highlights, but they don't get to see the work that's put into it.

Yeah.

How mad were your coaches when you did the hurdle?

Um, no, I think uh they weren't, I think it's probably one of the coolest things they've ever seen.

Yeah, no, it was cool, very cool play.

But afterwards, were they like, hey, please don't do that again?

I don't, I don't.

Oh, so you're gonna do it again.

Nope.

I wouldn't say that.

I wouldn't say that.

I think that was, I don't think, I know that was the biggest hit I took.

Only person who I can say was really mad about the hurdle or any hurdles I've ever done is my mama.

Okay.

My mama don't like when I leave my feet.

Um, but I think hurdling is in my future again, but just maybe doing it backwards, yeah.

Maybe that was looking forward.

That's I think it's just you know, I think that's a one-time thing, and we, and we just let it go.

So, you just you knew like it was like a sixth sense, you're like, this guy's about to come here, I got this.

Keep it honest, I spun, uh, had a really good spin move, and I was gonna spin again, and I realized that if you, if you break down the clip, you can see me, I see him.

And I'm like, oh, he's not going for the spin.

So I kind of just let my body take over and I jumped.

And I just really timed it up pretty well.

At one of the sickest players, it was insane.

A bad example for the youngsters out there, though.

I was thinking, yeah, it is, but like, I talk to all my friends all the time.

They don't agree with me with this one.

But, like, nope, I'm not saying I'm Michael Jordan by anyway.

But, like, when Michael Jordan jumped from the free throw line, like, in 84 or whenever it was, like, that was probably one of the craziest things people seen.

Now, Zach Levine is eastband from the free throw line.

So it's like, if I'm able to jump over someone backwards right now in like 20, 15, 30 years, like what are these kids like?

Because if you go to, I go to my nephew's 707 tournaments, flat tournaments, and like these kids are eight years old.

And

they look like they're 12 and 15 already.

So it's like in 20, 30 years, like what move?

Like we think that move is crazy.

Like what is the next move someone's going to be able to do?

And like it's.

It's going to be a scary thing to see.

Yeah, like gymnastics.

Like Simone Biles, doing like backflips and shit.

Yeah.

Twists.

Backflips.

I think backflips are kind of like normal and gymnastics.

No, but I'm saying like incorporating that into like football.

Oh, you're going to be able to do that.

Like, you're not able to do backflips and shit.

Listen, you won't.

You won't do it.

He's a Commanders fan, so he's trying to get you.

After three.

He got losses.

I don't want to do it.

I get it.

I get it.

Nah.

I don't even do backflips.

I don't even do backflips like normal.

I know guys,

oh, a big play, they like to do the cartwheel until a backflip.

Like, that's not my thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you listen to any of the haters?

Like, going, obviously, there are none now because you had 2,000 yards, but going into this season,

did any of that make it through?

Like where it's like people are like, oh yeah, Saquon's overrated and like this is.

Yeah, you have to.

I think when athletes get up here, we say that we don't see any of that stuff.

Like it's, that's just a lie.

Like we see all of it.

Sometimes you make stuff up in your head to help fuel you.

Like a big thing for me is.

You know, I see that I'm not going to be good next year because I was too good the year before.

And running backs get older or how many touches.

Like you see that stuff.

And it's okay.

It's okay to see that.

It's okay to put that in the back of your mind.

But when you go out there and you play the game that you love, that can't be the reason behind it.

I fell to that before.

And I think that's a big reason why I was unsuccessful and I had injuries

because I was going out there trying to prove a point rather than going out there and playing a game that I love.

And, you know, I get paid a lot of money to play a children's game.

So you got to keep that mindset and keep the main thing that matters the most and the love and your team.

But it's okay to see that stuff.

And when you train and be like, okay, this is what you think.

Well, I'm going to show you this.

Yeah.

Yeah, we had a guy, the dumbest guy we got.

I got the exact quote here.

Yeah, he pretends he's a fantasy football expert.

He doesn't know shit.

So this guy said, do not draft in all caps.

Saquon Barkley in fantasy.

ADP, average draft position, number 10.

Overall, it's crazy.

He's only rushed for 1,005 plus yards one time

in four of the last five years.

Yeah.

1,005.

1,05 years ago.

Everyone knows 1,005 is the benchmark.

That's the mark that you should.

Okay, gotcha.

He hasn't had 340-plus receiving yards since 2019.

Blame the Giants all you want, but when do we admit he's just not a great player?

That was this year?

Oh, that was this year.

It was before this season.

1,005 yards only had done it once.

Oh, he's an idiot.

Yeah, he's a moron.

Hey.

You know what?

That's why, you know, Cuz is here right now.

You got to be careful what you put out on the internet because the internet is forever.

But listen, this was was actually like it actually was great because we, I think, I gave him shit.

I think I tweeted every time you had a touchdown, I tweeted at him, yeah, and he would be sitting right in front of me, and I would just tweet at him being like, and he's like, he's like part of like that fantasy stuff, right?

He thinks he is.

So it's like, how, if I'm a guy and I'm following you and trying to take your advice over fantasy, and then you go out there and say that, you know, trying to lose credit.

It's a reputation killer.

Exactly.

Like, no one should ever listen to Stephen Che.

You should say that.

No one should listen to Stephen Che ever again.

Yeah.

No one should listen to Steven Chase ever again.

That's facts.

No, in all seriousness, it's just, you gotta, I think, right.

And like, this is what I want to do when I'm done with football.

I want to get on this side of it.

Um, but I think sometimes you see guys up there and they have to say stuff that's gonna

get clickbait.

Yeah, um, even if they don't really believe it, like you see stuff going on, like what they say about Nick Siriani or stuff they say about Jalen now, of myself.

But like, it's hot.

Like, we're the hottest team in sports right now.

We just want to ask you for it.

And when you mention our names and you say something negative about it, it's going to get views

even going into last year.

So I think a lot of these guys just say some stuff that they don't actually believe.

So here's the problem.

I agree with everything you just said.

The guy we're talking about, Stephen Che, he actually is that dumb that he believed it.

Yeah.

No, he actually believed it.

He thought you were overrated and not very good in 1,005 yards.

Again, the most important benchmark in all of this.

The problem is he looks smart.

So I think people tend to believe him because he has glasses.

So he's like, okay, I got to trust this guy.

He's a nerd.

Yeah.

But he's a dumb nerd, which is a problem.

That's where you're running the problems.

Yeah.

Numbers lie.

What's the saying?

Men's lie, women's lie.

Numbers don't.

Yeah, I used to believe that, but that's not true.

The numbers don't always tell you what it is.

And,

you know, the career I had in New York, obviously we weren't great.

I wasn't on great teams, and I had a lot of injuries and adversity there.

But sometimes just because a guy, like you'll have next year, you have a guy who rushes or catches 1,500 yards and a guy who catches for 1,200 yards.

Like that doesn't mean that guy is automatically better.

Everyone's opportunity, everyone's situation is completely different.

So that's why we need to stay away from, you know, the numbers is good, but I think it's taking over, especially our sport.

And it just go by watching film and film doesn't lie.

All right.

I got a random question that I just found this from 2020.

You were asked, I don't know what interview it was, what are your favorite football or sports podcasts to listen to and why?

And you said, I love pardon my take.

Anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides and I enjoy the arguing.

Did someone feed you that, or did you actually listen to the show?

I think someone fed me that.

Okay, yeah, I was gonna say, I was like, What?

Yeah, someone definitely fed you that.

Because, like, anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides.

Like, that's not, we're just idiots.

I wouldn't say, listen, far from idiots.

I think it's just like, it's a beautiful, it's a beautiful thing because you guys are just who you are.

You're just just authentic to who you are.

You have fun with it.

Um, it made us feel good.

You really

we believed in it for a while.

I can say that now, I can say that confidently now.

I'm a big fan of you guys.

When I read it, I was like, I don't think anybody would ever say that about our show.

Yeah, right.

It was like, you like saying I love part of my take, that's where I was like, oh shit, Saquon loves her.

And then when I got to the second sentence, I was like,

he's not listening.

We can just go, we can go, it's 2020, that's COVID year.

We could blame it on COVID.

Yeah,

he had COVID brain.

Yeah, you said that.

Yeah, it was.

Oh, Kenny, yeah, it was.

It was a Spotify interview, and they were like, it would be nice if you said a few things about PMTO.

Well, listen, well, we're just going to, I think we have it printed out in our studio, so we're not going to take that down.

You would actually raise it.

I know what happened.

You would probably listen to the tennis podcast, and you were like, these guys are awesome.

You got that confused with us.

It happens all the time.

If you listen to our story, you'd just be like, why are these four assholes making fun of their producer for two hours?

Yeah.

That's the takeaway from our story.

It's just so funny.

Anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides.

Like, we have the same basic opinions on everything.

Yeah, and we've been wrong a lot.

But, I mean, you're talking about getting into the next phase of your career and you want to do so.

You said like something on the other side, whether that's commentary or whatever.

The trick is, though, like you have to figure out a way to deliver your authentic thoughts in an entertaining way.

I think a lot of people get screwed up with that.

And they're just like, I'm just going to say something that's going to get people riled up.

And that's the easy way to get there.

But have you thought about what that next step looks for?

Yeah, is that going to be something that you're going to pursue more while you're playing or are you going to wait till afterwards?

I always think it's tough, right?

If you do it while you're playing,

it's so tough, especially in the markets that I've played in, New York and Philly.

It's good when you rush for 2,000 yards and after games, it's easy to put a mic in front of you and say this and say that.

But if you, you know, we played, what was it, Monday night or Sunday night?

We played the Falcons and I had a big drop.

You know, it's not as easy to go on in front of a camera and talk about that game or what's going on during the world.

No, No, the best way I put it, I could put it is Michael Strahan.

Like, he is literally, I just want to look at him and follow everything that he did.

And he got involved a little bit into this world while he was playing, but I'm probably going to focus a little bit more when I'm done playing.

You only get this, you know.

I'm in year eight right now.

It's even crazy to say that.

And whether it's another eight years or another two years, you never know.

So I'm going to try to capitalize on this as much as I can, stay focused on this as much as I can.

And opportunities come here and there, I'll take it.

But when I'm done being more so, I want to have the goofball side and be able to be on stuff like this and show my personality.

Then I also want to talk about stuff that's going on in the world

and

just really have a mixture of both.

Yeah.

Podcast P, he got himself in one of those situations here in Philly.

He was like, I'm going to stop the podcast right now because things aren't going so well.

But then the numbers came out and he was better at basketball while he was podcasting.

Maybe you could be a better running back if you were podcasting.

I don't think

the podcast had anything to do with that.

You don't think so?

I disagree.

What we do is some people say is harder than playing in the NFL.

I'm not saying it's easy.

Okay.

I'm not saying, and I think it's, I don't think it's easy, and I think it would be harder playing and doing this at the same time.

Yeah.

Reason why he probably.

That's why we don't play in the NFL.

Especially

we don't want to rob the podcast game.

Yeah, I feel you.

When I think about it, yeah.

That's a distraction.

That'd be a distraction in our lives.

We actually were asked to be on the Madden cover.

We said no see i think you guys gotta be the first people to say no yeah we did it makes sense because

it took too long for me to get uh it requested for it yeah and i do remember they're like we were we're tending to go somewhere else so it all

come together yeah we could do i mean listen you make up quotes saying you love pardon my take we can make up quotes saying we were the madden cover

why what does it matter um all right well saquan this has been awesome i got one last question do a couple rapid fire uh roback question r-h-o-b-a-ck.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase.

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That was great.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's podcast.

That's harder than jumping over somebody's back.

Yeah.

I could close my eyes and do that.

I felt the read coming.

I saw it out of the corner of my eye.

Let it happen.

It took over.

All right.

Rapid fire.

Do you still squat?

I do still.

What's your max?

Right now, I don't know, but I mean, if I had to go to competition, I'd probably do 650, 700.

What's your absolute max that you've ever done?

Probably 700.

That's crazy.

But I think like I'm better like a one rep max guy.

So like, especially when they do the competitions, you can wrap your knees and stuff.

If I'm going against somebody, it'll probably be higher than 700.

That's insane.

Favorite game you played in at Penn State?

Penn State versus Michigan whiteout 2017, my junior year.

Okay.

I thought you were going to maybe say the Iowa game because that was a crazy game.

It was a great game, but like the environment, even though Iowa environment environment is great, it has nothing on a whiteout game.

And like I scored a touchdown.

I think I scored like in the second, third play.

And I remember like, I like did my little thing and I went to the end zone and I just looked up and all you see is like a sea of white and everyone yelling.

It almost like.

Words can't describe how my body felt in that moment.

It was, it was insane.

Yeah.

The whiteout, they got to do it for bigger games.

Last year, I think it was like Minnesota at noon.

Yeah.

Got it.

Oregon this year.

Yeah, Oregon.

All right.

Last one.

Will will you guarantee over a thousand five yards this year?

Well, I never guaranteed anything.

Um,

I feel like I can guarantee that if God keeps me healthy, that over will get smashed.

Okay.

You got to get that.

The 1,005.

The 1.005K club.

Yeah.

Everyone talks about it.

Yeah.

I like that.

That's like the now that's like the new dressholder, I guess, right?

Yeah.

Or it's like, yeah, getting 500 home runs in the Hall of Fame in baseball.

You get 1.005K, then that's a great season.

Yeah, because on that topic, I am a big believer.

I was talking about this the other day.

I think to get in the Hall of Fame for NFL, they need to have something like that.

It should be like a set requirement.

A threshold.

Yep.

But what you need for certain positions to get into the Hall of Fame.

He needs 1,005.

Well, actually, we shouldn't do that for you because you've only done it twice in your entire career, which is crazy.

Yeah.

It's kind of...

You kind of stink when you put it in that respect.

Bad ball.

He's a bad player all around.

All right.

Well, Saquon, congrats on Madden.

We're excited to play the game and best of luck this year.

Thank you, guys.

Appreciate you.

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And now here's Cam Jugens and Lane Johnson.

Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests, very, very special guests, Super Bowl champs.

Uh, it is Grit Week presented by Hey Dude.

It is Lane Johnson, Cam Jugens.

Uh, boys, thank you for joining us.

First question of Grit Week, every single interview: Uh, what does the word grit mean to you?

It's another word for toughness, okay, perseverance, perseverance, Cam, just dealing with it, whatever you got.

Um,

terrible hot day yesterday, just losing so many pounds.

Want to get home to a nice AC, get home, AC, broke.

Oh, that was a gritty night.

That's grit.

You do.

Grit.

Sweat.

Wait, how many.

You complain?

Yeah, that's actually complaining is part of grit.

The more grit you have, sometimes you just have to complain your way through it.

But you still do it, right?

Yeah.

You do it.

You do it, but you can be pissed off about it.

Wait, how many pounds do you lose in a training camp practice?

11 yesterday.

Holy shit.

That's a good diet.

Yeah.

How quickly do you put that back on?

Sometimes Sometimes you don't.

No, I mean, you just have to be conscious.

Like you have to get a lot of salt in.

So just

get an IV.

You can get it in real quick.

How's the back feeling?

Good.

Good.

I would say that was grit.

So the NFC championship game,

you don't start.

You go in the second half.

How, on a scale of one to 10, how bad was the pain when you're going back into the game?

It was high, but like at that point, you're just thinking about being gritty and not worrying about pain and just be like, all right, this is a mental thing, not a physical thing.

You know, pain is more mental than physical.

At a point, you know, the pain subsides and you just don't feel it.

Yeah.

And then it's just numb and you're like, is this better or worse?

Probably better.

That week leading up.

He was on a Bosu ball all practice.

Yeah.

Practice.

Yeah.

See him over there just bobbing up and down.

When he was going back in, though, from your perspective, Lane, were you, was there, did you have a conversation with him?

Like, hey, like, are you, are you good?

Like, is this, because you know, he's like very, very injured, but, but Landon gets injured.

So did you guys have a conversation as like an offensive line before he comes back in?

Yeah, I mean, it's like if it's a nerve thing, like a disc, you know, hitting a nerve and you can't do it, which is one thing.

And then it's another one where it's a pain that's tolerable.

So, you know, he's played a lot of football.

So I kind of leave it up to him.

If he's good to go, we're going to rock with him.

If he's not, we're still going to rock with him and, you know, get prepared for when he returns.

Yeah.

So that week leading up to, did you just think like there's no chance I can go?

I mean, every single day I'm just like, all right, yeah, I'm going to try to do my best to get ready and play.

And every day it's just like,

wake up, I don't know about this.

And then you just kind of work through it.

It's a lot of self-doubt.

Wait, what was the actual injury?

Was it a nerve thing?

Yeah, I just had a, you know, a herniated disc and then it broke off, got wrapped around my nerves.

So it's just

messing up my leg.

Yeah, I've had one of those and I just laid on the floor for two days.

It kind of goes down your leg.

Yeah, and I told my wife,

I was like, just shoot me right now.

If I had a gun, shoot me.

You played in the NFC Championship game.

I barely podcasted.

Yeah, I had one.

You did.

I did.

They came over to my house and we podcasted.

I was just laying on the ground.

I've had one for the last month or so.

I canceled a vacation, which is, I think that's kind of gritty, right?

Being like, I don't need to take this time off.

I'm going to just stay here and work on my body.

And then I tried to play golf through it, and that was even too much.

I can't imagine like actually having to run and move move around and shove people with it.

I think it'd be gritty going on vacation and just complaining and hating vacations.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah.

The worst vacation of all time.

That is actually a very gritty thing to do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But yeah, good to see that you're healthy, that you're feeling good.

How's camp been?

It's been good.

Entertaining.

Hot.

Yesterday was pretty hot.

The first few days was actually nice, like condition test.

And then yesterday was kind of wake-up call outside.

So how is it different?

Obviously, Cam, this is the first time you're coming to a camp after winning a Super Bowl lane.

Your second time.

Is it a different vibe being champions and like having to kind of

you have to like start

fresh, you know, and it's like what we did last year doesn't matter for this year.

Is it hard to get over that?

Or people treat you different for what you accomplish, but I think when you look at why you accomplish what you accomplish, it's because of your routine and structure.

So, if all this praise or whatever you're getting is causing you to change those habits, then yeah, probably things are going to be different in the prop the next year, you know.

Yeah, I feel like you guys have a line coach that won't let you get too high off that, right?

No, No, I don't know.

I don't know what gets him.

I mean, maybe him fishing on a jet ski on his off day gets him happy, but other than that,

he's pretty gritty.

It's just, you know, when you get back into camp, it's just, it's like locking yourself in a room and just getting football non-stop 24-7.

You're just so focused on it.

You don't know what day it is.

Today.

You know, you don't know what yesterday or tomorrow is.

You're just like, all right.

Long day doing a day.

Long day, full days.

After you guys talking about it, I can just imagine going home to no air conditioning.

That's the worst into that day possible, right?

Yeah, just like take a cold shower, and it's just you know, you're learning everything you're gonna need for the whole year, all wrapped up in one month of just like

brutal, you know, hellish camp, yeah, you know, or fall camp.

It's like it's a lot of plays, too.

So, you know, you're not necessarily going to have all these plays in per week, it changes, but install everything all at once.

And so, yeah, it's a lot all at one time.

I would love to see if like the

working man and everybody out there in the real world, just like everybody had a fall camp, camp you know a month you know

yeah

podcasting shape uh did you guys follow along when they were voting on the tush push were you like actually tuned in or were just like hey whatever happens happens well i knew that like there was a deadline for the vote and i was yeah i was i was waiting i was like it's it's a goner but

No, I wasn't tuned in.

I feel like they voted on it like three times.

It's like every month.

They're like, they're voting on it again.

Yeah.

And also, I think the vote like went down where it was the majority of teams that voted to ban it were your opponents this year.

So they're like trying to basically get it out because they know they have to play you guys.

Hey, I wanted Tom Brady, the one that played Gronkowski out, but hey, they kept doing it.

Yeah.

Was that weird hearing the owner describe maybe the suckiest play for you guys as being like a wet dream?

It was interesting.

That was hilarious.

That was hilarious.

I gave him a fist bump next time I saw him.

That was funny.

Yeah, because it's an awesome play, but for the offensive line, it's probably not the most fun play to do.

No.

No, and the worst part is when you're running the play and it's like fourth down or third down or whatever, and you're running it and then you just get piled on top and you're just down there.

You don't know what's going on.

And all of a sudden, you're getting yelled at to get up out of the pile.

It's like, hey, get up, get up.

We got to run another play.

I'm like, oh, so we got the first down or like what?

You kind of don't know for like, it seems like two minutes.

I don't know what's going on.

Refs moving bodies out.

I don't know what ball.

He moved.

You might have Frankie Louvu jumping on your back a couple times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That wasn't wasn't fun but i like that

they're in a bad spot because if they come off late and late to the party you know it's not good but you're they're trying to time it so it's right so the whole issue uh cam i i was reading a story about when you got drafted how did you find out that you got drafted uh i got a call but like it was

During the draft day, there was like a severe storm that just rolled in in Nebraska.

We're in Tornado Alley.

You know, Lane knows about that from Oklahoma.

And you're just like, tornado comes or whatever.

And there was darn draft.

Dude, yeah, the TV kept going out.

We kept going from upstairs to downstairs, like figuring out what TV is going on.

We're trying to get on our phone.

Like, oh, it was chaotic.

And I finally got a call and like our TV was way off.

And I finally got a call and got drafted.

I was fired up.

You guys were trying to get me to get on a Zoom call with all the media.

And I'm like, guys, I got nothing out here.

I can't do no interviews right now.

I mean, being drafted.

I'm in the basement about to go crawl under freaking pool tables.

Yeah.

It's a great origin story, though.

Like, I got drafted during a tornado.

It's like, yeah, that's a hit of a draft.

Howie knew it instantly.

He's like, yep, that guy's going to be off.

It feels like that anyway, the whole process does.

You don't know where you're going to be.

It's like a tornado all over again.

Yeah.

I got a question about Nebraska.

Scott Frost, I thought that was going to work.

I think everybody thought it was going to work.

That really wasn't a

more of a statement, but yeah, I really thought it was going to work.

That was your, so he was, was his second year through his fifth year you were there.

I, it felt like you guys were about to turn the corner a bunch of times and it just never happened.

Yeah, you know, I feel like every game, we just found ways to lose games.

Yeah.

You know, we had good players and we played really well, but then it's just like, we just found ways to lose it.

And we were really good at that.

You know, I never made a bowl game in college and then I get to the league and three years in, we super bowls.

Yeah, were you, were you part of the team that there was that one year where you guys lost by like three points every single game?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like seven or eight losses within like yeah it was insane it was like it was like Nebraska's looking good today and then the fourth quarter would come around and something insane would happen you're like well there's the game not all losses are the same yeah yeah do you think maybe Rayola should start dressing up like Jalen Hurts instead

yeah I mean do something you know win I guess.

They're both winners.

They're both winners.

Yeah.

All we need to do is win.

And, you know, they made the first bowl game in several years.

So I I was happy to see that.

So this year, playoffs are bust.

So your teammate, Ty Johnson,

he's a Nebraska guy, too, right?

Does he actually own a camel?

Is that true?

I think it is.

I mean, he went to Nebraska, but he's an Arizona guy.

I mean, there's not camels in either, but go on.

Yeah, I don't know.

I've really been out in Arizona.

They probably got camels.

They got Camelback Mountain out there.

I know that because I trained out there.

We got camels.

We got cattle.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Smoking camels.

I always wonder this, the Super Bowl, obviously, Lane, we talked to you that week right before.

I think we saw you at the hotel cam.

What point in the Super Bowl victory were you like, is it?

It's over.

Because it was.

Touchdown to Devontae.

So what was that score?

Was that 34?

I think it was that touchdown to Devontae where it went 34 to whatever.

Six, yeah.

And then you're like, oh, that's a little bit more points.

And the Patriots or the Falcons had that year.

Maybe they can't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I did the math and I was like, they can't come back.

Because, I mean, like, the Super Bowls, you know, when we were growing up in the 90s, there were always blowouts, but the last, you know, 20 years have been really competitive.

And then you have a game like that.

It feels like the whole second half, you guys almost are like, get to party because you're like, we're in the Super Bowl and it's a lot over.

Yeah, a lot different than the other ones we were in for sure.

Yeah.

And shout out Kenny for throwing a pass.

Because I had that bet over one and a half or over two and a half players

to attempt to pass.

Yeah, that was huge.

That was huge.

Shout out Kenny.

That is.

That's overlooked.

That was a big pass.

I did not think you guys were going to pass in that situation.

You guys, were either of you in the game at that point?

I don't think I was.

No, that's got to be so awesome.

It should be on the sideline for like just being like, let this quarter take forever because we just celebrate, celebrate.

Yeah, I mean, it was, seems like every game, I mean, the last Super Bowls were just.

you know, back and forth, neck and neck.

And yeah, we're not used to being those situations, I guess.

But it was cool.

Yeah.

Do you think Jalen enjoyed the Super Bowl?

Because I feel like a lot of his quotes, he's already, he's going heavy on turning the page.

Do you think he actually enjoyed winning the Super Bowl?

I don't know.

So I hadn't seen him put on his ring yet.

Those rings are sick.

Yeah.

Did you guys hit the button for the Eagle flag to come?

Or

when I'm feeling really good, I'll press the button.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Does it make your old Super Bowl feel like less important because the ring is so much bigger on this new one?

Yeah, the feelings got hurt that night.

You guys put hydraulics in the new ring.

It's crazy.

Yeah, a lot bigger.

Just, yeah,

it was huge.

So, after you guys win, what was it like?

Did you celebrate in New Orleans?

Yeah.

Yeah, there was a casino right across the street.

Yeah.

And all week we couldn't go because you're not supposed to go to casinos.

What'd you do after the trip?

But after the game, season's over, we can go to the casino.

Obviously.

Most of the team was over there.

So we all celebrated together.

I remember seeing Big X the Plug, Jeff Ross, just a lot of different moving parts at that celebration.

I was just, well, he's here.

He's here.

So that was pretty cool.

Did you you guys watch the halftime show?

No.

No.

You didn't go back and watch it?

No.

That was a wild halftime show.

Yeah.

It was wild.

Yeah.

I mean, who was it a couple years ago?

Was it the kicker for the Bengals that?

Yeah.

McPherson.

Yeah.

Not the Bengals.

McPherson.

McPherson.

He went out at halftime to watch.

Yeah, the halftime.

I imagine that kickers can probably get away with doing something like that.

But at the same time, you probably like everybody to be in the lock.

Yeah, we have to do it.

It's like offense, like we usually have

our board meeting right before we go out.

So everybody's like there in their chair.

So somebody's missing.

It's like, where the hell is he at?

Did you guys make any adjustments or was it just like, hey, you guys are kicking ass.

Just continue to beat the shit out of him?

I mean, it wasn't a, like I said, it wasn't that moment didn't sink in until like the Devonta catch, but it was really full go till then, just because losing that thing the first time to him by three, whatever, that emotion was.

Stronger than winning the thing like we did.

I mean, you'll never forget that loss like that.

It was terrible.

Yeah.

Better turf this time.

Yeah, I mean, the actual turf.

Yeah.

No, was it grass?

I can't remember.

Was it turf?

No, it was turf.

Turf.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they couldn't mess with it.

What week this season do you think Nick Siriani would be on the hot seat?

You never know with this fan base.

Yeah, Max is probably thinking like week four or five.

You start two and two.

He's going to be like, got to fire the guy.

Slow first quarter.

Yeah.

Usually it's pretty hot.

Like it's the takes are like that till you get to November and it kind of dies down.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

And that happened last year and that's when you know we took off.

Yeah.

You guys, it is kind of crazy when you look back because you guys were what, two and two to start the season.

It's kind of some questions lingering from the previous year.

And was it that game in New Orleans when you, when uh, the big play at the end of the game?

Who else?

Was that a Dallas Goddard?

Yeah.

And it feels like from that point on, you guys were just dominating teams.

Yeah.

Could you feel that?

You're like, everything's like a little bit more.

Yeah, it just takes a little bit to like find, you know, a few weeks you get to do different things off mid-lead and you see kind of what clicks and kind of what a rhythm should be.

And then, yeah, at that point, it started, started it started becoming consistent do you lane do you get veteran days off uh during camp i haven't yet okay will you get them hopefully do the other guys cam you can just pretend he's not here is he a pussy for taking those days off uh no okay but but you you definitely look at a little side eye i feel if i take those days off i'll you know get some bad looks it's like being at the line at disney world you got the fast pass and

i waited five hours here who was thinking today yeah exactly so

it's a weird feeling in general You've probably earned it, but the mentality that got you to a place that earns it is like, I don't want to take anything.

Yeah, but it's just a, you know, would I rather not practice and take all these looks from all my teammates?

Hey, why does he know that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe, maybe you're dog.

The line plays really good.

Jalen puts up great stats in practice.

Kevin know you're a big fan of keeping stats during training camp and evaluating players that way.

Yeah,

I think it's hilarious.

People coming out like stats.

We're just practicing to get better.

Yeah.

You don't know.

It's a slow in the interception

Yeah,

exactly.

They don't know that.

Maybe they're just trying to draw attention to that away from the Epstein

with the passes.

Yeah, he was 7 for 11 this training camp.

They're not focused on the Epstein stuff.

That's true.

I did have a moment the other day where I'm starting to maybe at 40 years old, getting mature because I saw it was like Bears

interception or don't convert fourth and 15 in training camp.

And I was like, fuck.

I was like, wait a second.

Why am I upset?

But you do.

There's nothing to talk about right now.

So it's like the offense is humming or the defense is dominating.

Yeah, but yeah, the anticipation is building.

And hey, it's just, you gotta, it's gotta get out somehow.

Yeah.

Talk about it.

What was it last summer?

Was it that Jalen Hurts was throwing too many interceptions or that he wasn't throwing enough interceptions?

It was an interception for like so many days.

There's a non-interception streak.

Yeah, that was a problem.

That was a big problem.

Yeah, exactly.

You're taking risks.

Drive the ball downfield.

Too conservative.

That's why we hit the interception drill early.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

So, Cam, when you, before you moved to center, you were playing next to Lane.

What was it like playing next to like a Hall of Famer and being like, this guy is just so good at everything?

And, like, were you just confident that no matter what, he's got you every single time?

We're probably asking what's the play about 80% of the time.

Yeah, yeah, it was mostly like, here's the play, hear the call.

And then Lane's like, what do we got?

It's usually, what's the snap count?

But it was

great because we, you know, when you're playing next to somebody for so long, you just formulate your own language with each other.

So we could just say a lot with very little words.

Like, I could, you'd be like, oh, and I'll be like, hmm.

Yeah.

Nah, nah, nah.

It's kind of, yeah.

Lane, I saw that you obviously got the 99 in the Madden rating.

Congrats.

What an honor that is.

But they only had you as a 93 on pass block finesse.

What's up with that?

Pass block finesse?

I guess my first question is, what is pass block finesse?

I know there's finesse in the run game, but I don't know.

I guess, I don't know.

I don't know what.

Like looking good.

Yeah.

Well, finesse is like, means you're getting the job done, but in a like a kind of pussy type.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So

I've had pussy moments where I've got bull rush.

So maybe it's from that.

I don't know.

Do you think about those pussy moments?

Yes.

I mean, that's all coaches wants to talk about.

They don't talk about the good stuff.

It's only, ah, I saw you stumble there and your battle there.

Let's talk about it.

Is there one that like sticks out to you from your career that you find yourself just no matter the accolades that get put on you, the Super Bowls you win?

You're like, that guy really bitched me that one time.

Kerrigan had some, like, my first couple years in the league, there was, I know, there was a strip sack on Sanchez one of those years when I was 15.

I was like, this motherfucker here.

And now I still get to see him on the sidelines

watching him coaching.

So I can't get this guy, can't leave the damn field.

He's there every time we play him.

Yeah.

Kim, but definitely Kerrigan.

Yeah.

Kim, who's the hardest guy that you had to block last year?

Dexter Lawrence.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What is it about him?

Just the size?

I mean, size, strength.

You know what's coming, and he still can't.

He's just, he plays with such good leverage.

You know, he's just so wide.

SWAT team door just hitting you.

It's what it feels like just.

Damn.

Big ass.

Over and over.

Who's got the best hands?

Ooh.

What?

What do you mean?

For receivers?

No, no, the best hands on a defensive line that you have to go up against.

Ooh.

Man, I mean, when Fletch was here, Fletch had some strong hands.

Yeah.

Can you feel it?

Like the difference between...

Yeah, there's game strength and there's weight room strength, and there's a difference.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's ability.

Yeah, some guys are strong in movements, but they're not able to express it, like on the football field.

And there's some guys that aren't very strong in weight room, but they can, you know, farm strong.

So it's, you can see it all, really.

Farm strong.

You guys are farm strong, right?

Or you guys city bowls.

Yeah, I got a little bit of city slicker strength than me.

Yeah.

You were doing pass block sets against Bulls.

Yeah.

Yep.

That was a great video.

My dad just put me out there.

That was such a funny video.

That's how I learned.

And then people are like, yeah, this is what he does.

This is how he trains.

Like I'm Rocky going up to like Siberia.

Yeah, no, that was an all-time funny video because I feel like the bull knew that he was doing a pass set.

Yeah, he was a little skittish, a little scared.

Yeah.

We got to get some more bulls.

Yeah.

How's the jerky business going?

It's going good.

It's going good.

Got some flavors, five flavors.

Honestly, it's my favorite jerky in the world.

I love it, and it's something I enjoy doing.

You know, I grew up with my dad going deer hunting and making deer jerky and all sorts of that.

So, now to have a jerky company, pretty cool, pretty gritty.

Yeah.

And so, yeah, just trying to sell some.

We got some good stuff in the works.

We're excited for the season.

Yeah.

What flavors are we cooking with now?

My favorite is mango habanero.

Cracked pepper is really good.

And then you got your original, your teriyaki, and we got a hot honey.

Are you giving it free to the rest of the guys?

We don't have a ton in stock right now.

Right when you put get it in there, it just gets eaten right away.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Especially now with all the numbers.

You've got a lot of guys in the room.

So yeah.

But that's really, you get the rookies in there and rookies are supposed to supply the snack.

So I'm going to start having the rookies buy my jerky for the room.

That's smart.

So I'm going to tell them that today.

Yeah.

Yeah, that is smart.

Back in your pocket.

Is it tough at training camp?

Like, obviously, there's, you know, it starts with 90 guys, and you know, there's some guys that are not going to be there.

Is it tough, like, not getting too close or forming relationships with guys, being like, you might get cut?

Like, how does that work?

We just, uh, I don't know how it works.

We just go to lunch and dinner and

like it's all normal.

And then

one day there's.

Some guys don't come to breakfast the next morning.

Really?

Yeah.

Or you like, you see somebody like lift and then they get done with the workout and all of a sudden you're getting ready for practice.

He's his locker's cleared out.

You see the Grim Reaper come around with him.

Lift with his clipboard and his glasses.

That's got to be weird, but that's probably smart to not think about it too much because thinking about it too much is get too attached to it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You guys just usually don't get a chance to say bye to each other.

Do they ever say that?

It's not even just that.

It's like even like the Super Bowl teams.

Like so many teams get picked up in free agency.

Yeah.

Some guys don't come back to the ring ceremony.

Coaches disappear.

It's just everybody disperses.

Yeah.

It's so different.

Yeah.

I'll get cut and then get brought back and then cut and brought back.

So like you can say goodbye, but you might see them next week.

Right.

You don't want the double goodbye.

Yeah.

That's awkward.

It's fucking good.

Even like in a position you guys are at where your jobs are safe, like if Howie says, Hey, I want to talk to you, or you're like, oh, fuck.

Like, you never know.

Yeah, you never know.

Do you ever talk to Howie?

Yeah.

What's he like?

He seems like a sharp guy.

Sharp.

He, I mean, he's pretty busy in the weight room now.

I just saw him in there.

Oh, shit.

He's getting lifted.

Okay, we'll have to.

He's been shoulders are looking big.

Yeah, he's been pretty consistent past few years.

All right.

Okay.

All right.

This has been awesome, guys.

I got one last question.

Rollback question.

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What did Saquon get you guys for a present last year?

And was it good?

I mean, which person?

Let's pretend he's not in the room right now.

He's got multiple.

Yeah.

What do you get, you guys, though, for 2K?

2K?

We got a Rolex.

Oh, nice.

Because you guys were just saying that he owes everything to you guys.

Yeah.

Everything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So probably should have been more than a Rolex, right?

We can't tell time good enough as it is.

All right.

Well, thank you, boys.

This was awesome.

Best of luck this year.

Appreciate you guys stopping by.

Yes, sir.

Thanks for having us.

And yeah.

Happy Grit Week.

Yeah.

Happy Grit Week.

I feel honored.

Yeah.

Scott Frost.

Still thought that would work.

Okay.

Great show, boys.

Thanks to our friends at the Eagles for giving us a first-class day.

We We brought Big Dom

how many cannolis?

We brought him like...

Well,

we bought two dozen cannolis at the end of the day.

And then it was very funny.

And then we might have eaten a dozen.

12.

We ate 12.

No, we ate 10 of them.

No, it was.

And then we didn't want to give him a second box with only two cannolis in it because that's rude.

Well, then we had to eat the other two.

We're also missing part of the story where we went to,

in South Philly, we went to a bakery at like 10 in the morning to get cannolis.

And then

Max, you came back in the which was a great move because it was incredible, but it was like two full pizzas.

That was mostly security Mike's doing.

Yeah, he was like, Those were so good.

We were just stuffing our face with cheesesteak pizza at like 10:30 in the morning and then washing it down with Big Dom's cannolis.

So, I tried to take my wallet out to pay for all this stuff because the cheesesteak pizza was incredible.

And Mike physically pushed me out of the way, and he's like, PFT, you go let me pay for this one.

Please, let me pay for this one.

I was like, okay, Mike, you got it.

All you.

And then once Memes found out that Mike was paying for it, memes then goes off and orders like another pizza, three more pastries.

He's like, yeah, put that on Mike's tab.

Really ran it up on memes is villain arc.

I like it.

Shout out to all the memes heads out there.

She said, try the hot honey.

Yeah.

And then I tried the hot honey.

By the way, later that day, memes was like, let's get on this plane.

Let's get on this fucking plane, guys.

I went to Day by Memes.

I regret even talking about that story.

That was a mistake.

People were like, we don't fucking care.

Which I actually said at the beginning.

It is the least

probably should have happened off air.

Yeah, we probably shouldn't have done that.

I should have done that.

That's the beauty of the show.

Yeah, that is.

We just hash it out live.

Memes,

you mentioned hot honey.

I was thinking about this this weekend.

When did hot honey become a thing?

Because it's basically the best invention.

Like, I know it's probably been around for a long time, but in terms of popular, like, you order a pizza from anywhere and you can add hot honey.

I saw it in stores back in 2009, I think.

Okay.

And it's so good.

But I'm saying like on like when you order a pizza.

Yeah.

Not like you can do the band before everyone else.

I think it was like COVID.

It's so good.

What a great addition to everything.

Hot honey.

Fucking love it.

I remember seeing it during COVID in my local pizzeria, and then it would just explode.

Yeah.

Okay.

Good show, boys.

Should we do numbers?

I'm going 60 for my dad's birthday.

Oh, you motherfucker.

I'll go three.

You're throwing that at us.

It's his birthday.

Happy birthday.

I'll go three.

No, Pete.

Oh, you took three?

I'll take 22.

I'll take six.

Give me the twos.

Twenty-one.

Eighty-five.

Ninety-nine put.

Wait, what do you have, Max?

Six.

Okay.

I'll take fifteen.

Expert two, Mr.

Phil.

Did you just want to go for 22

If Memes wins this, it should go to his dad.

It shouldn't count for you.

That's a fact.

It shouldn't count for you.

14.

14.

at this.