Saquon Barkley, Lane Johnson And Cam Jurgens, Micah Parsons vs The Cowboys + Mt Rushmore Of Things That Start With Q

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we are back in studio, and we have two great interviews.
We've got Saquon Barkley, the best running back in the league.

Speaker 1 And then we have our good friend Lane Johnson with Cam Jugens talking a little O-line with the boys.

Speaker 1 We're going to recap everything from this weekend, including Micah Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys being at a very bad spot.

Speaker 1 We have who's back of the week. We have the Mount Rushmore of words that start with Q.

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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, August 4th, and PFT, I'm starting to think Micah Parsons and the Cowboys do not like each other. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 That's interesting because all the talk in the world was about Scary Terry on Thursday.

Speaker 1 And we told people, keep your eye on the ball. Micah Parsons.
It was quite a statement. Quite a statement.
Was it the notes app?

Speaker 1 Was it, Well, there was the notes app, which is on dark mode, which I appreciate. I feel like that's the more impactful way to make a statement on notes app.

Speaker 1 What I didn't appreciate is he didn't cut up the notes app correctly, so you would like read one and then you would go to the next slide and you start halfway through what you just read.

Speaker 1 Don't like to do the extra reading. Just a little note from Micah Parsons for future notes apps.
Let's just clean that up. Let's clean that part up.

Speaker 1 I don't really mind that because I get so distracted when I'm reading a notes app that's in four different panels that by the time I I get to the second panel it's helpful to reread what I just read at the end of the first one but yeah you could tell that he put that out there too that was his notes app not a notes app that was texted to an agent who then uh did the very valuable work of copying and pasting and cropping the corners out of the notes app no it was straight from his phone you can see it it was right on there so uh it wasn't as far as uh declaring himself independent from the dallas cowboys but he just said i no longer want to be a part of the organization i want to trade you kind of fucked me over because we talked.

Speaker 1 That was not a negotiation. Then you won't speak to my agent.
Which is apparently a Jerry Jones special. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I saw there was also going viral the time that he, Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells basically took Tony Romo into a closet and basically said,

Speaker 1 This is the deal we want you to sign. And he was just like, well, I'm not signing it.
And my agent isn't here. So Jerry Jones likes to do this little wheeling and dealing, talking to you.

Speaker 1 The story goes that he sat with Micah Parsons talking about leadership in the offseason. Then they started talking numbers.

Speaker 1 And then basically, they called up his agent and was like, hey, we got the deal done. And his agent's like, what are you talking about? I haven't talked to you about any of this.

Speaker 1 Kind of scummy behavior. Micah Parsons, it feels, and there was bad body language, too.
They were not happy with each other on the sideline because he's holding in, had his back to Stephen Jones.

Speaker 1 Lori hold in.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones is doing weird Jerry Jones

Speaker 1 pressers where he, the one I noted was he said, when I grew up I knew when mama wouldn't let me do something going to daddy and daddy letting me do it then going back in and saying to mama daddy said i could do it that old mama daddy stuff we got here doing that by nature we're not going to do that that's that's really weird because i think in this analogy he's referring to his son yeah as mommy also i that's such a crazy quote i was like i had to double check and be like is this is is this made up but it was a real reporter had reported that no i think he i think he turned steven into mommy yeah in that equation so

Speaker 1 not doing the mommy-daddy stuff. Not doing the mommy daddy stuff.
You refuse. And then Florio is all over it because this is a wet dream for him.
Of course. And so he came up with an idea.

Speaker 1 You want to hear a dream that's going to piss you off? Okay. Okay, this is Florio's idea.
He's not wrong, but it's going to piss you off.

Speaker 1 For a player in the last year of his contract, his obligation ends with the final game of the regular season, which means that he can walk out at the start of the postseason or at any point during the playoffs with no contractual consequences.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 Florio is saying that a player in this situation in the final year of their contract would be within their rights at the start of the season to say, I'm going to play, I'm going to play out my contract, but if we make the playoffs, I'm not going to play in any playoffs.

Speaker 1 This is double fan fiction because it has the fan fiction of the Dallas Cowboys making the playoffs. Yep.
And then the fan fiction of Micah Parsons walking out on a playoff team.

Speaker 1 So I was thinking about this. I think the only reason why Micah Parsons would not come out and say that is because he knows that everybody's response would be like, what do you mean in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Which is a deterrent for him.
Right. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it's taking the college argument of sitting out bullseason, moving it to the NFL. I like that.
And then Florio is stirring it up a little bit. He is.
I like that. Also, Jerry Jones is,

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 just keeps taking shots. Like I said, we talked about this like a month ago, that he is in that senile old phase where he's just saying shit and you're like, I really wish you wouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving table uncle shit.

Speaker 1 Because he was asked about if it bothered him reading Micah Parsons' statement. And he said, not a bit.
I can't tell you how many hundreds of times I've heard that that negotiation.

Speaker 1 And then when he was asked about fans yelling for him to sign Parsons on the sidelines, he said it was just so much louder walking off the field last year with CeeDee Lamb. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he's just taking a dig

Speaker 1 at Micah right there for no reason.

Speaker 1 And meanwhile, it's fun. This is fun.
Meanwhile, CeeDee Lamb and he said something on Twitter. Trayvon Diggs, Overshone.

Speaker 1 They'll have his best. There's another guy.
They changed their profile pictures to Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 And then Des Bryant is also weighing in because because Des Bryant went through a weird contract negotiation with Jerry Jones where Jay-Z got involved.

Speaker 1 And then Jerry claimed that Jay-Z was not returning his calls.

Speaker 1 And then they eventually got the deal done on a cocktail napkin, which also presents another problem because, one, it's not a contract. Two, Jay-Z was never actually a certified agent for the NFL.
So

Speaker 1 it brings up the question. Can you just declare yourself independent from an NFL team? This is what Florio would love.
Can we do that? Is it the opposite of it?

Speaker 1 You can just be like, I am no longer a Cowboy.

Speaker 1 He wants to get rid of the draft. Yeah, he's just like, I'm not playing for the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, if Jerry is, in fact, like trying to negotiate directly with players and not negotiating with their agents, there might be a loophole in there. I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 1 Also, they should just trade him because the Cowboys are not

Speaker 1 a Super Bowl team right now.

Speaker 1 And if you don't want to pay him, trade him. He

Speaker 1 guaranteed two first-rounders. Yeah, it's guaranteed.

Speaker 1 And the Khalil Mack was a good trade for the Bears. They just, the timeline of Mitch did not work out how they thought it would.
Yeah. That would be a mistake.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I would trade him in a second.

Speaker 1 Any team should trade him for two first-rounders. Is there going to be a guy in the next two drafts that's going to be better than Michael Parsons? I don't think so.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's got 12 sacks in his first four seasons. He's a monster.

Speaker 1 I'm looking. I'm trying to feel.
I'm trying to figure out who the Raiders got with those Khalil Mack picks. They got.

Speaker 1 No, it was really bad. Let's see.
Who did the Raiders get? No one good.

Speaker 1 I think it was Leatherwood or whatever. So it was a lose-lose trade, kind of.
No, well, Mack was good for the Bears.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the Bears trading for Khalil Mack was not... Khalil Mack was not the problem for that.
It was that you traded for him being like, Mitch is going to progress and get better and better and better.

Speaker 1 When Mitch didn't get better and better and better, you then were out. out of picks to maneuver out of that.
Yeah, he became like the Khalil Mack part of it was correct. Like he was a monster.

Speaker 1 He was good, but he became like a luxury player, which is like.

Speaker 1 well, yeah, because the quarterback didn't come along. You were like, hey, we got to.

Speaker 1 The thought process behind it was correct. It's just you need the quarterback on a rookie contract to get better as he gets to second, third, fourth year.
The Bills should give a call.

Speaker 1 The Bills should give him a call. Patriots.

Speaker 1 Patriots should give a call. What are the odds?

Speaker 4 It's Cowboys minus three, three.

Speaker 1 You meant 12 sacks last year. Patriots.
I thought he had 12,000 sacks in his first four seasons.

Speaker 4 Eagles plus a thousand.

Speaker 1 Who Micah Parsons? Yeah. No.
Every year. Oh, every year.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Every year.

Speaker 1 He's four years into his career. Every single one of his first four years, he has at least 12 sacks.
He has at least 12 years. Which is pretty fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 I think that's the first player to do that since Reggie White. Yeah, he has 52 and a half sacks through four seasons.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, well, Max is trying to get him. Max is trying to trade a perfect

Speaker 1 stool as well.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 that was a tough one.

Speaker 1 You guys see the treat? What did Max do?

Speaker 1 Max said, how. Hold on,

Speaker 1 let's pull it up. Don't tell us what it is.

Speaker 1 This was.

Speaker 2 we're not doing this again this week.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? This is you were trying to negotiate a deal on Friday afternoon. Dude,

Speaker 1 I'll tell you the exact tweet. I'm going to pull it up because I don't want Max to try to.
I will pull it up. No, I'm

Speaker 1 going to pull it up. I'm going to pull it up.
Here it comes.

Speaker 1 This is from Maxwell Delente on August 1st. Is there any possible way for us to make a person's trade work?

Speaker 1 A person's trade. Yeah.
He's trying to trade people.

Speaker 1 Human trade.

Speaker 2 B and A are close to each other on the keyboard.

Speaker 1 I thought he was trying to trade someone at Barstool. There's an S in between, Max.

Speaker 1 It's still there. And a W.

Speaker 2 It's still close. I didn't say it was Max.

Speaker 1 I said it was Parsons.

Speaker 1 Have you ever participated in human trafficking?

Speaker 2 I have not.

Speaker 2 I wanted Micah Parsons 10 to 1 on the DraftKings Sportsbook.

Speaker 1 Every team should want Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 This is a no-brainer. He's 26 years old.

Speaker 2 The Eagles have the next best odds, 10 to 1 on DraftKings Sportsbook.

Speaker 1 I offered Micah Parsons free ice cream for life in the the DMs if he signs with the Bears.

Speaker 4 Everyone, do your part. Any response? No.

Speaker 1 Red?

Speaker 1 I'd rather him be on the Bears than he does follow me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he's an unbelievable player. And like I said,

Speaker 1 if you're going to, it's not like in baseball where you, you know, guys will get traded for a one-year rental, and then they'll go sign somewhere else.

Speaker 1 If Michael Parsons gets traded, he's going to sign a deal the next day. Is it the day that he shows up to his new team?

Speaker 1 If it actually happens where Micah Parsons just never plays for the Cowboys again, if he just says, says, I'm done with the Cowboys and I mean it, I will not play another down of football for you.

Speaker 1 Are we going to, is there going to be like an uprising against Jerry Jones? Is this like the bridge too far? Because Cowboys fans have dealt with a lot of shit from Jerry Jones. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Cowboys fans deserve to be mad at Jerry Jones because he is losing it.

Speaker 4 So if a star player sits out, it's going to be because we're going to uprise against the owner?

Speaker 1 I'm saying in this case with Michael Parsons, because there's been a lot of stuff that's happened that Cowboys fans are not happy with.

Speaker 1 And if the star player sits out because the owner screwed up the negotiations by inserting himself and then trying to take a fake deal to get it signed, that seems like it's a problem.

Speaker 1 And it's also, this is what the Cowboys do. Like, good organizations get their good players signed before it becomes a problem.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones feels like every player, every big player, he has a problem and then he gets it figured out. And this all,

Speaker 1 we should also put a disclaimer on this. Similar to last year, this could all be Jerry Jones trying to steal the headlines week one, one, and Micah Parsons gets a massive deal right before.

Speaker 1 On Sunday morning. No, it'll be Thursday night.
Kickoff. Yeah.
The first game of the season, like where they agree, hey, Micah, come back to camp. We'll get it figured out, wink, wink.

Speaker 1 We'll sign you all your numbers, and then we can announce it as you're walking in to the link and basically try to steal Banner Knight from the Eagles. That could absolutely be on the table here.

Speaker 1 Anything could be on the table, Jerry. Yeah.
You know that that's a Jerry Jones move. I mean, he did that last year.

Speaker 1 It didn't really have the same pop when it was Dak coming out of the tunnel in Cleveland. But he thought it was.
He did think it was. Max, do you want him? Everyone should want to.

Speaker 1 Of course, I want him.

Speaker 1 No one should be saying no to Michael Parsons.

Speaker 2 The other thing is, you keep talking about this not playing a year thing. He's done it before.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 2 He didn't play. He didn't.
He sat out his whole COVID year.

Speaker 1 His whole COVID year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so Cowboys still favored, then Eagles, Patriots, Chargers, all pretty much the same odds. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's, I mean, again, it's, I know the two first rounds seem like a lot, but Micah Parsons is really fucking good at football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just don't think that, Max, as much as I would want you to be happy with having Micah Parsons on your team, I don't, I don't see Jerry trading it inside the division. Well, it's also like.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it makes no sense. There's no way he would do that.
But it is, you know,

Speaker 2 it's interesting that we have the best odds, the next best odds.

Speaker 1 It is interesting. It is interesting.

Speaker 2 I don't know why we would have the next best odds, but it is interesting.

Speaker 1 I think the reason is

Speaker 1 a wild motherfucker.

Speaker 2 He loves the Eagles. Micah just loves the Eagles.
I think if he had the choice, he would want to go to the Eagles.

Speaker 1 He grew up a Birds fan?

Speaker 2 He grew up in the area, and he has those clips every single year during

Speaker 2 live streams the drafts, and the Eagles always get good picks, and he's like, How the fuck are they doing this again?

Speaker 2 He is always sucking off the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So that's, yeah, I mean, that was the big story for the weekend.

Speaker 1 Do we have any update on Terry?

Speaker 1 I'm no longer worried about Terry. Oh.
Because I saw a 10-second clip of him going up to Josh Harris, shaking his hand. I did see that as well.
Hugging Jaden's mom. And then that's all I need to see.

Speaker 1 Business. As James Cook is saying, just business.
Okay. It's a negotiating tactic.
I don't think that Terry actually wants to get traded.

Speaker 1 I think that the trade request, that's just the next thing that you do in this type of negotiation.

Speaker 1 First, you try the hold out. Then you try the hold in.
Then you request a trade. Again, request, not demand a trade.

Speaker 1 Very politely asking for a trade. If you're not.
Please, sir, could you have a trade? Listen, if it's not too much trouble, would it be okay with you if you were to allow me to be traded?

Speaker 1 And then they're like, ah, you know what? I'm pretty busy right now. We can't do that.
Okay, no worries, no worries.

Speaker 4 What if it was a respect thing, though? What if it was like, you know, we tried. I'll always respect you.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 Mrs. Daniels, Jaden's mom, whatever.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I don't think they look very happy to see you. Hey, business is business.

Speaker 1 So you're saying Terry's basically sending an email being like, hey, I know you've had a busy week, but if you could quickly just look at this contract and sign off on it. He's sending an email.

Speaker 1 And if there's any issues, I don't want to be a bother whatsoever. Sign Terry McLaurin.
No worries, but. Yeah.
And then he uses the word just like five times. What if it was 34 million? Ha ha.

Speaker 1 I was wondering if, just maybe you could take a look at the contract and maybe you could add two or three million per year. Just that.
Yeah. If not, it's no big deal.
Just a little extra.

Speaker 1 Hey, no worries. No worries if you can't do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so you're not worried.

Speaker 1 Because of a handshake. I'm no longer worried because of the handshake.
It very well could be him saying, hey, dude,

Speaker 1 it's

Speaker 1 nothing personal here. I love being a commander, but it's not going to happen.
No, I mean, if you know anything about

Speaker 1 Josh Harris's history of handshakes on camera, this was a handshake that he meant. Did you see the tweet that was very funny?

Speaker 1 I don't think this is how it works, but a Twitter account, Terry Franconia, said the best thing Paul George has done for Philadelphia is take $55 million from Josh Harris this upcoming year, so you can't give it to Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 1 I thought that was pretty funny, and I don't know if that's how it works. I think that's exactly how it works.
Yeah, like I don't see how it works.

Speaker 1 I read a couple of replies, and people were like, that's not how it works. I'm like, I don't really know how it works, but it seems like it could work that way.

Speaker 1 It might be how it works. That would be catastrophic for you, PFT, because you do like making fun of Paul George.
And if that was.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say I like making fun of Paul George. He's a podcaster.
He's a colleague. Respect.
He's a brother-in-arms.

Speaker 1 But if that was exactly, what if Josh Harris did a, like, he wasn't able to sign him, and he was like, it's because of Paul George. It's really, if you want to trace it back, it's Ben Simmons.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Paul George is what he just paid. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, well, also, I guess the Embiid, did you guys see the, not to get a tangent here, but there was a report that Joel and Joel's Embiid's knee in

Speaker 1 league circles is way worse than people are

Speaker 1 saying publicly. You think that's true? I think that's true.
I do trust league circles. League circles are saying that

Speaker 1 it is a big problem. What is a league circle? Is that

Speaker 1 an agent's friend? I think it's just Rasillo.

Speaker 4 The group text, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's group text. Rosillo, yeah.
Rousillo thumbs up. I think the knee's worse.
Did you see that, Max?

Speaker 2 He was at the Phillies game.

Speaker 1 But did you see the league circles?

Speaker 2 He looked good on the sideline of the Phillies game.

Speaker 1 Was he standing or was he in a handicap seat?

Speaker 2 No, he was on the field.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Was he in the cart?

Speaker 2 He was not in a cart, no.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Was he leaning on anyone?

Speaker 2 I think he was. The picture that I saw, I do think he was leaning against the dugout.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Did he throw it up? He can't stand upright. Let's take a look.
Let's take a look here. Can't stand upright.
Did you guys see now? We're going real tangent. Did you guys see that

Speaker 1 there was a tweet that went viral like maybe a month or two ago that was like in the Cold War, Russian spy. Oh, yeah, he's not standing on his own.
He's taking all of his body weight off. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 He's leaning. He's that's a heavy lean.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 that's nothing on his knee. But he's not moving his right arm.
Does he still have the palsy?

Speaker 1 He is moving his right arm. Just a little bit, not nearly as much as the left.

Speaker 2 That's aura. You don't know anything about that.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 The tweet I saw was in the Cold War, Russia was able to figure out who was like an American spy or just an American because they would lean on things.

Speaker 1 And it got in my head, and I realized that I lean on everything. Wait, is that true? Yeah, it's like a cultural thing that Americans lean on things.
Because we're lazy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I realized very quickly, like, I started checking myself after I read that. I was like, dude, I fucking lean all the time.
Yeah. I never,

Speaker 1 you'll never catch me just standing. Yeah.
Why would you?

Speaker 1 Russians don't lean.

Speaker 1 I guess a lot of other, I mean, I know Asians, the Asian squat. Yeah, Asians, yeah, they do squat.
But yeah, I guess it's a lazy American thing. We just like to lean on shit.
Irish too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just because they're drunk.

Speaker 2 And be'd real American.

Speaker 1 Real American. Well, no, that's his knee.

Speaker 1 He can't.

Speaker 2 Did you see the end of the clip? He wasn't leaning.

Speaker 1 He was like gingerly turning around. He was falling over.
He lost his balance.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get back to football. Would you guys like to talk about any other football? Maybe some clips that went around these stupid drills where they're throwing it in nets and stuff.

Speaker 1 I was actually telling Hank about this earlier because we've reached a point in the offseason where people are just hunting to find the very worst Caleb Williams clip they can get from that practice, knowing that it's guaranteed to do numbers on them.

Speaker 1 Numbies. And you know what? It will.
And I love all of them. Yeah.
Because they're funny. I don't think that has any bearing on whether or not he's good this year.
This one's AI.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to be good this year, but I love watching these videos. AI? That looks AI to me.

Speaker 4 He just storms away.

Speaker 1 Look, it's not a great clip. I did see another one that got like no retweets of him actually nailing the drills.
Also,

Speaker 1 last I checked, receivers have hands, so all those would probably be caught.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 4 the football's back, but like, who cares?

Speaker 1 No, listen, it's a practice. I get it.
I get the game.

Speaker 1 There was another one at Soldier Field today.

Speaker 1 This is why we say six out of 10. Look,

Speaker 1 you got to hit in the holes.

Speaker 1 The one win I did get out of this, though, was our good friend Ryan Whitney, who has told us because of our stance with Connor McDavid, he's going to be rooting against us all the time.

Speaker 1 So he sent me the clip, and he said, sick, he looks awesome, being obviously facetious. And I said, that's AI, dude.

Speaker 1 And I said, you see this dog scuba diving? And then Whitney said, wait, that is AI, the Caleb one. And I was like, no, it wasn't, but I got you to believe that for a second.
So that's a win for today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can make him believe it. He definitely believed it for a second.
Yeah. Yeah, look at this one.
This is the alternate angle. Another time when he's doing the drill, and he was crushing it.

Speaker 1 The funniest part of the one where he misses the net is that he like hits the coach behind the net on the last rep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a funny clip. Yeah, I mean, listen, this is, unfortunately, this is the spot that I find myself in.
Caleb finds himself in that

Speaker 1 any bad. What happened to not filming from the sideline? That might have been during the 20 minutes.

Speaker 1 I was going through the whole list of it. AI,

Speaker 1 that actually is illegal. We should get that copyrighted, taken down.

Speaker 1 There's music playing in the background. Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's another clip that we need to

Speaker 1 signal boost.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say?

Speaker 1 We'll see how it goes when he's out on the field. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it is basically...

Speaker 1 If you click on one Caleb Williams video, you can get trapped pretty quickly into just highlights or lowlights of his camp. It might be my algorithm now.
It It might be like suggested videos for me.

Speaker 1 It happens. It happens.
It happens. So, whatever, it's practice.
Right, Hank?

Speaker 4 It's practice. Although the stats from today don't look great.

Speaker 1 Practice? You're talking about the practice stats?

Speaker 4 Are these true? I mean, it was at Soldier Field.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about practice stats?

Speaker 4 Five for 17 with three interceptions.

Speaker 1 Dude, they're overloading them with stuff. You want to make these mistakes in the preseason.
That's how you learn.

Speaker 4 It is just practice. It's just practice.

Speaker 4 It's August. We got another.

Speaker 1 I can't believe this is my life. I'm smiling through it all.

Speaker 1 It's practice. Didn't Tua go like seven practices without throwing a pick? And then the fans all clapped when he finally threw one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They know ball. Yeah.
Miami, good sports town. That's what we always do.

Speaker 2 This was Jalen Hurts last year when this was you.

Speaker 1 No, it was not. It's actually not good.
Match, not everything's about the Eagles.

Speaker 1 This is what Mike is.

Speaker 1 This was what.

Speaker 2 No, this is an entire bit that you guys did.

Speaker 1 This is about Tua.

Speaker 1 This is happening right now with Tua.

Speaker 1 Currently? Yeah, it happened. I think his streak ended today.

Speaker 2 But are you forgetting that this was a bit that happened all the time? I don't know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 I do remember that.

Speaker 2 You just kept making fun of me and saying that

Speaker 2 it's not good that he hasn't thrown an interception yet.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about what's happening right now with Tua. The fans clap because he finally threw a pick.
Good sports town.

Speaker 1 Do you not believe that it's also happening to Tua?

Speaker 2 I'm sure it is, but that was a bit on this show for a a month.

Speaker 1 It was. It was.
And I

Speaker 1 no, actually, no, I don't take back any of that bit because Caleb Williams throws interceptions in practice. So he's a good quarterback.
It's good. Yeah, that's good.
It's good to make these mistakes.

Speaker 1 By the way, speaking of the Dolphins, Mike McDaniel and Tyreek Hill do not like each other. I don't know that I was very, very unsure that Tyreek would be back in Miami this year.

Speaker 1 Did they try to trade him?

Speaker 1 He's doing like a hybrid of the hold-in,

Speaker 1 just be an asshole while participating thing. Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's just

Speaker 1 criticizing his fourth down play calling.

Speaker 1 Clown reek. Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't feel great. This is what this time of the year is for, though.
It's just people being, it's like Pete Carroll throwing a

Speaker 1 flag into practice, a challenge flag, Caleb Williams missing a bunch of targets. Everyone having a good laugh and, you know, guys holding in, holding out.

Speaker 1 Do you think that Pete Carroll in his year off? Do you think he was chewing gum? Yes. I feel like he waits for football for that.
I don't see him walking around the house doing it. I got to know.

Speaker 1 No, I think he was doing it while he's watching football. Yeah, when football's on TV.
Yeah, yeah, when he's watching tape. Yeah.
He's grinding tape.

Speaker 1 I do have an update on day nine of Brown's Training Camp for their QB tracker that they've got.

Speaker 1 Flacco, 11 for 18, one touchdown, no picks. Sanders did not throw.
Dylan Gabriel, 11 for 22, one touchdown, no picks. Pickett, injured, did not throw.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be Flacco, guys. Listen,

Speaker 1 as someone who sees training camp and being like, everything that happens there is actually more important than the games, and we should need to take it very seriously. It's Flacco.

Speaker 1 It's got to be Flacco. It's got to be Flacco.
Because these reps matter. Yeah.
If you're laughing about these reps, you don't know ball. So do we have a full stat tracker for him there, Max?

Speaker 1 Is that what you have? Yeah, this is the full

Speaker 1 through Saturday. I mean, Kenny Pickett right now has the best stats, I would say.
Yeah, but he got hurt. But he's hurt.
He can't make the club in the tub.

Speaker 1 I mean, Flacco still, three TDs, zero interceptions. Guy throws a good ball.
Shador kind of lighting it up with six touchdowns, zero interceptions.

Speaker 1 Shadora has the best stats. You've got the Wily vet.

Speaker 1 It's like the old guy from Squid Game, just waiting it out, letting all the youngsters get eliminated. Now you're stuck with him.
Damn.

Speaker 1 We should talk real quick about ESPN buying red zone because that was a big story as well at first.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 people are rightfully mad or freaking out because I'd say there's a decent chance that ESPN fucks us up. No.

Speaker 1 I think what they'll do is they'll, I think much like inside the NBA, they won't fuck it up right away because they know people will be upset, but they'll eventually fuck it up and they'll slip in some things and non-commercial free football.

Speaker 1 Scott Hanson, you're out. Stephen A.
Smith, you're in. It sucks.
I mean, it's all because ESPN is about to launch their new ESPN Plus that's going to be $30 a month.

Speaker 1 So they need more sports, more live rights to justify that. Adding red zone, adding seven NFL games is exactly what could justify that.
Don't fuck it up.

Speaker 1 They're going to fuck it up, but don't fuck it up. They're not going to have commercials.
I don't think. I hope that they won't.
I don't. NFL Network tried that last year.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're going to have commercials right away. But I think that they're going to have very intrusive on-screen commercials during the actual.

Speaker 1 And I think they're going to eventually get to commercials.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to suck.

Speaker 1 Not good. Is it still going to be Scott Hanson or do we have anybody else? Well, so it takes a year.
It's not going to happen this year.

Speaker 1 So next year is the earliest it could happen

Speaker 1 because they have to like vote on this. You know they're thinking greeny.
Dude, if you think

Speaker 1 the pitch deck for getting red zone was just Mike Greenberg's face. We've got the man.
Scott Hanson, you can't screw with Scott Hanson and what he has. You can't.

Speaker 1 ESPN's basically, their whole strategy now is just buy everything that is universally beloved and then try not to fuck it up. Yeah.
That's a dangerous strategy they're playing

Speaker 1 because these are things inside the NBA and red zone are, I would say, two of the highest approval rating things that exist in the sports world.

Speaker 1 We don't like when you change a score bug by like one pixel. Yeah.
It's going to be weird having the ESP in graphics. We get pissed when you start a game two minutes after it says like the start time.

Speaker 1 Tip time, yeah.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 we get mad when you play a commercial too many times and the song gets in our head. If they screw up red zone, that's my personal January 6th.
It's going to be a problem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, the interceptor NBA is. I'm going to put on the horns.
I'm going to get the staff. I'm going to walk out of there with John Skipper's lectern.

Speaker 1 Don't fuck this up. It's fucking on.

Speaker 1 Don't fuck this up.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 what else do we want to talk about? We want to talk a little baseball, national sports podcast?

Speaker 1 I got a baseball story. Actually, no, I'll save that for who's back league.
I was going to say

Speaker 1 Kyle Schwerber should be MVP.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 You agree, Hank? Do that's crazy. Wholeheartedly.
Wholeheartedly. Do you agree?

Speaker 2 I for sure agree.

Speaker 1 Todd Shohei. Todd Shohei for home runs.
Shohei's not pitching. PCA is very good.
He's cooled off a little. I would love for PCA to win MVP, but I also have a 90-to-one ticket on Kyle Schwerber.

Speaker 1 But that has nothing to do with us saying Kyle Schwarber should win MVP. I'm not concerned concerned with the NL race.
I'm more concerned Cal Rowley should be ALL MP. I just feel very strong.

Speaker 1 I agree with that as well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The baseball was awesome on Friday night, especially. There was like a few walk-offs.
They had that

Speaker 1 Pirates Rockies game that was 17 to 16.

Speaker 1 That was awesome. Baseball's heating up.
It's good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And oh, we should talk about the Speedway Classic. That was an absolute disaster.
Yeah, so the rain,

Speaker 1 it's a it's a cool stadium but that doesn't mean that you have to put other sports inside your cool stadium so i said like in wrigley field when they did the the winter classic yeah terrible place to watch a baseball yeah the sight lines a hockey game yeah to watch a hockey game great place to watch a baseball game terrible place to watch an nhl game for the winter classic yeah if it's a drone shot if it's a blimp shot it looks incredible

Speaker 1 Anybody that's in that stadium not having a great time. I feel the same way about using NASCAR tracks to have other sports.

Speaker 1 So obviously they can't be blamed for the rain except for the fact that they tried to play an inning when they knew that they weren't going to play anything, and that was really stupid.

Speaker 1 They ran out of hot dog buns

Speaker 1 in the first inning. They ran out of cheese on the nachos.

Speaker 1 They did have Tim McGraw and Pitbull performing together, which that's a crazy combo. But I don't understand.
And I tweeted this this morning.

Speaker 1 Like, why not just do it at Field of Dreams every single year?

Speaker 1 I guess they're doing renovations there, and they're making it like an insane, all-encompassing baseball place that is going to hold tournaments and everything.

Speaker 1 But this is such a situation where like baseball had a really cool thing. That White Sox Yankees game was insane.
And why not just go back there and do it? We're simple people.

Speaker 1 We would like to see a field of dreams game and the only change that you make to it is just have the corn be the entire outfield.

Speaker 1 No actual wall. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But this made no sense and they totally botched it. And they had a bunch of people sitting in in the rain being like, oh, yeah, we're going to play a game.
Oh, we're going to play one inning.

Speaker 1 And they had fucking Blooper driving,

Speaker 1 might have been drunk, on the track. That part was kind of cool.
They should have breathalized him. Should have figured that out.
It's just

Speaker 1 butter. Yeah, this was a

Speaker 1 total mess by

Speaker 1 MLB. I have a Stay Woke.
Do you guys want to do a Stay Woke real quick? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Portland Pickles guy. Come on.
Are we this stupid? The fan? Yeah. The fan that got in there and had the purest swing of all time.

Speaker 1 How are people falling for this? Do you know anything about the guy? I don't. The Portland Pickles are an unaffiliated team, I assume, and they had a special.

Speaker 2 I think it's a collegium summer league team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, unaffiliated. Yeah, Summerball.
And they had a contest where a fan could get in a bat, and then the fan took the pitcher 425 feet.

Speaker 1 This isn't, what are we talking about here?

Speaker 4 This guy plays.

Speaker 4 Fans have at-bats.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This guy plays somewhere, right? I mean, the bat speed was absolutely incredible. Insane.

Speaker 4 Pure sweat.

Speaker 1 And he also, like, got, I think he got a walk in the first at-bat

Speaker 1 and then was like running the bases really well and like seasoned vet.

Speaker 1 I want to say, regardless,

Speaker 2 he still hit it.

Speaker 1 Of course. But what if he plays?

Speaker 1 That's a pro swing. For sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But he still hit it. But he still hit a homer.

Speaker 2 They did the thing and he hit a homer, which like

Speaker 1 he could be. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 He could be the best player in the world and, like, still not hit a homer in his one-app ads. Do we think that...

Speaker 1 Well, let me see that pitch again. Was it a meatball?

Speaker 1 Looked like it was a fastball.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was a meatball.

Speaker 2 But still, like.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But if you're that pitcher.

Speaker 2 I think it was a 3-2 count. Apparently, he...

Speaker 1 Oh, the kid rocks. I'm just saying it's more that we can't.

Speaker 2 No, he's a real

Speaker 1 believe that this is just a fan plucked out of the stand. But if you're that pitcher, you do not groove him one on purpose.
Unless

Speaker 1 it's very embarrassing. But if it's planned and it's like we need to get a viral moment,

Speaker 1 I think that pitcher would still be like, fuck that. I'm going to try to strike it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think someone broke it down and the pitch before was like a slider in the dirt, like a 2-2 count that made it a 3-2 count.

Speaker 2 So he did groove a fastball, but it was directly after

Speaker 2 a tough slider.

Speaker 1 Okay. I have a stay woke.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the WNBA is throwing dildos onto their own court. We got to talk about this.

Speaker 1 Get the ratings up. They did arrest someone.
Someone got arrested. Someone got arrested for dildo chucking.

Speaker 1 So we had our second dildo go onto a court. Same exact green dildo.
Sir.

Speaker 1 Second dildo.

Speaker 1 It was quite something seeing. I never thought we would get to the point where Sophie Cunningham

Speaker 1 had to tweet, stop throwing dildos on the court. You're going to hurt one of us.
A real tweet. So there's a second dildo thrown.

Speaker 1 Bills fans got to be like.

Speaker 4 The dildozer. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but there was a person who got arrested in Atlanta. What do you get arrested for? Dildo throwing.

Speaker 1 That's against the law?

Speaker 1 It's funny. That's against the law?

Speaker 1 I think throwing something onto a basketball court, like a professional game, is probably against the law. Even if it's funny? Yeah, they could always be like, that could hurt someone.

Speaker 1 If somebody tripped and fell in a dildo, that would be pretty funny, though. Yeah, it'd be very funny.
I I said the same thing in the NFL. Yeah.
When it happened at Bill's games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Valkyries are the ones that are getting... So it's both of their games.
Yeah. So it's the Valkyries in Atlanta, and then the Valkyries in Chicago, and dildos came on the court for both of them.

Speaker 1 And they're bright colored. You can't miss them.
It looked like Shrek's dick.

Speaker 1 We have a serial dildo thrower. You think it's the same guy? I don't know.

Speaker 1 They arrested the first guy, so I don't know. But they might not have arrested him.
We got to see this person. He might be a copycat.

Speaker 1 I do agree. This could be a stay woke.
Oh, look at the ref kick it.

Speaker 1 Perfect kick. And then they use a telephone to pick it up.

Speaker 1 What if she kicked it and went right into that video guy's butt? Or his mouth.

Speaker 1 Listen, you shouldn't throw stuff on the court. But if you're going to throw something, a dildo is, objectively speaking, the funniest thing to throw.
Yeah. It is funny.

Speaker 1 And again, it was funny when the Bills did it. Yeah, it'd be funny no matter what event it was.
It's going to keep happening, isn't it? I'd like to see a crossover breakthrough sports.

Speaker 1 So it's not just sports. It's like political debates.

Speaker 1 Imagine if Biden got a suction cup dildo that was thrown stuck to his forehead. Forehead, didn't realize it.

Speaker 1 It would be cool if we had a challenge where it was just one person. People shouldn't start throwing dildos.

Speaker 1 But if one guy can throw green dildos at sporting events around America and not get caught, I'm in for that. The dildo bandit would be an all-time story.

Speaker 1 And maybe mix in some, you know, baseball games, some training camps.

Speaker 1 What if you throw a dildo during a baseball game and then a pitcher hits it like randy johnson destroying the bird just exploded the dildo what if a guy comes to to training camp throws a dildo and ben johnson's like get me that guy does the dildo go into the net he needs to be our quarterback somebody edit just a bunch of dildos into calendar williams they should remake missing the net yeah rookie of the year but it's the dildo thrower yeah we need that dildo thrower

Speaker 1 Get him over here.

Speaker 1 Yank.

Speaker 4 The rookie of the year, fun fact. Yeah.
About PCA's mom? Yeah. Have we talked about it on the show?

Speaker 1 No, that's just one of those. No, we haven't.
I don't know if we've talked about it on the show.

Speaker 4 It's a very fun fact. Yeah.

Speaker 1 PCA's mom is in Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 4 She's the mom in Rookie of the Year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a fun fact. It is a very fun fact.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to confess to the dildo throwing.

Speaker 4 No, I have not gone to a WNBA game.

Speaker 1 Nor do I play it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's interesting. What if you knew that there were going to be dildos thrown?

Speaker 4 Maybe if it was like a big event.

Speaker 1 What if this whole golf thing was just a cover-up for Hank having an addiction to throwing dildos at WNBA players?

Speaker 1 Like, oh, I'm going golfing again this weekend, guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got to travel for golf.

Speaker 4 It's a great alibi.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 Your handicap keeps getting lower.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to happen again. It's definitely going to happen.
I think on Amazon, the dildos are

Speaker 1 low on stock. Are they going to be tracked now? I think so.
The ATF is going to start tracing every sale of every hildo.

Speaker 2 Hank, I think you got your 90s baseball movies mixed up.

Speaker 1 Was it

Speaker 1 Little Big League? Little Big League.

Speaker 2 His mom is in.

Speaker 1 Not Rookie of the Year. Rookie of the Year is the

Speaker 1 one I was talking about. Little Big League, I think, is a better movie than Rookie of the Year.
No, Rookie of the Year is not a good movie.

Speaker 1 No, Little Big League is legit a great movie. Rookie of the Year is legit a great movie.
Rookie of the Year is legit

Speaker 2 very thumb.

Speaker 1 I like them both. You guys need to watch Little Big League again.
I have

Speaker 1 a great film. It is good, but Rookie of the Year is better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got him. That's all right.
Those are very similar.

Speaker 1 You got it now? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So back to you, Zeroni's dildos.

Speaker 4 I like Little Big League better.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Embrace debate.

Speaker 1 Zach, which one do you like better? He's seen neither. Ron Tomatoes has Rookie of the Year higher.
Okay. Which one do you like better? Rookie of the Year has,

Speaker 1 what's his name? Daniel Stern.

Speaker 1 Harry. No, Marv.

Speaker 1 No, Harry.

Speaker 1 Harry.

Speaker 2 Harry. He's so funny.
He's so funny in it.

Speaker 1 So funny. Hot ice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Heat up the ice. Saussiebagger.
Garden Hauser.

Speaker 1 Dude. Little help now.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 what do you say? Little help now. Little help now.
He gets stuck. He gets stuck in the thing.

Speaker 1 It's just. Listen, don't throw dildos on the court, but the fact that this is an actual conversation people have to have online online is so fucking funny.

Speaker 1 It's so fucking funny. Again,

Speaker 1 don't throw dildos on the court. Do not throw dildos on the court.
It can hurt one of us. Please don't.
But I will laugh if it happens. Every time.
And it does.

Speaker 1 You can tweet it. It might be funnier at an NBA game than does the NBA game.
It doesn't matter what sport it is. It doesn't matter what event.
If somebody brings in a stray dildo, I'm in.

Speaker 1 It would be nice if we had, you know, little,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 Representation Matters. We'd get a pocket pussy thrown out out at an NBA game.
That'd be great. Let's get that going.

Speaker 1 Osa Kiras.

Speaker 1 Remember that one?

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, that was a pocket pussy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that's what I said.
You were looking up.

Speaker 4 I was reading about Little Big League and Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 1 Or if somebody just throws one of those big fists. Have you seen those ones? Oh, that are just the forearm and the fist? Yeah.
Yeah, just big, giant

Speaker 1 butt fists. You getting those in your Google ads or something? Big, giant butt fist.

Speaker 1 No, they always kept that one in the the corner at the sex shop. Yeah.
Go in there and it was like the real hardcore shit. The real motherfucker.
Yeah, the real,

Speaker 1 you want some hardcore shit. That's the real shit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Anything else? Oh, your new closer has an awesome walk-up.

Speaker 1 So sad. He always had that.
I know Twins fans. By the way, I should say, Twins fans,

Speaker 1 this has sucked for you. We've talked about Minnesota sports being just abused, but the Twins just treating their entire team and just being shitty ownership.
That needs to change.

Speaker 1 They're in the category with the Rockies, with the A's, with the Pirates. They have more success than those teams, but their owners don't care and their owners aren't trying to win.

Speaker 1 And so fuck their owners. That's why Little Big League is such a cathartic movie.

Speaker 1 I'm going to look up their owners because we got to give them something. Twins owners.
The Polads. Fuck them.
The Polads? That sounds like I'm a

Speaker 1 slur.

Speaker 1 I was going to say that. But the Polad family, fuck you guys.
Jim Polad,

Speaker 1 jerk. Carl Polad, jerk.
Jim's son Joe, jerk. Maybe in AWL.

Speaker 1 Listen, if you want to get us free tickets, we won't take them. The Polads.
I'm considering it. I will not.

Speaker 1 I'm standing up for Twins fans. You guys getting fucking screwed.
How long have these guys owned the team for? A long time. Are they like that? 1984.
So they were around for the Kirby Puckett.

Speaker 1 Kent Herbeck. Team on my back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's been a long time. I mean,

Speaker 1 they do the thing that is the worst in ownership. I know that, like, obviously,

Speaker 1 moving a team is the worst. But putting out a team where all you're trying to do is get to the playoffs a little bit and never actually go for it,

Speaker 1 that's bullshit. It's very frustrating.
Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 insanely frustrating.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, yeah, the new closer.
Twins fans rightfully were like, he's always had this walk-up music. It was more that the Link looked pretty sick when he came in.
The bank. Sorry.
I get my Phillies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're good. You're good.
We have Saquon on. Hank, are you feeling good about your Red Sox?

Speaker 4 No, we didn't make a lot of moves at the deadline.

Speaker 1 You guys just, yeah, but I think you guys.

Speaker 2 You just took over first place in the AL East.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 No, you just took over the Yankees in the AL East.

Speaker 1 You swept the Astros.

Speaker 4 I feel all right.

Speaker 4 I'm still running side by side with the bandwagon. Okay.

Speaker 4 Not fully on board yet. Have you put a foot on?

Speaker 4 No, but I've caught up to speed.

Speaker 1 Okay. You've caught up to speed.

Speaker 4 We just just didn't, no moves of the deadline.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of teams did no moves to the deadline. Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week? Yeah.
And then we'll get to our Mount Rushmore, and we will do our interviews. Saquon was awesome.

Speaker 1 Cam Juergens and Lane Johnson were awesome.

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Speaker 1 All right, who's back of the week? Hank.

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is Johnny Manzel. Yeah, he is.
So this has been unfolding for since last week. Started with Gilly, Gilly the Kid.

Speaker 4 I was ranting about Jalen Hurts, obviously, you know, one of the biggest homers, biggest ranters, maybe the number one ranter on social media.

Speaker 4 Like, Gilly, just, he, he can put out, you know, 10 to 20 minutes of videos via rants a day.

Speaker 1 But he can also do rants where he doesn't even say anything. Yeah.
He just stares at the camera, like, dances to something. And you get it.
And you're like, I just got ranted.

Speaker 1 He didn't open his mouth.

Speaker 4 So he was going off about Jalen Hurts. That, you know, Cam Newton never got one of these.
Cam Newton then went on his show. Got pretty personal, started, you know, talking about Gilly's rap career

Speaker 4 and kind of took it. You know, obviously Gilly took a shot at him, and then Cam just went for the juggular.
Gilly responded, and then Johnny Manzel

Speaker 4 from the clouds. From the clouds, it was Gilly's birthday.
I guess Big Dom brought the Lombardi to his trophy, and then Gilly was obviously trolling more.

Speaker 4 And Johnny Manzel from the clouds just said, You may be the biggest fucking loser on the planet talking like you've done, fucking done anything on a football field.

Speaker 4 If I see you, just know I'm going to slap the fuck out of you. Trust.

Speaker 1 Did anyone come to Gilly's defense?

Speaker 4 One Stephen Che,

Speaker 1 who wrote, Gilly only has seven fewer TD passes, but also has seven less interceptions than you on an NFL football field.

Speaker 1 So I'm not sure you're the right guy to gatekeep NFL discussions because you are a nobody in that world, too. Great college player, though.
Respect. I like the respect.

Speaker 1 That really makes it all better. And then Johnny said, and you're the right guy to say anything.
You should blow Dave every single day for your job. Fuck your respect.
Suck my dick.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of dick sucking Steve has to do. Yeah.
Also, it's me. He blows me, not Dave, for his job.

Speaker 1 And then Steve would just hit him with the, do you like my hat, which is a killer. It's tough to come back from that one, too.
Also, respect.

Speaker 1 So Johnny Manzel's like, this is a beef I didn't see coming.

Speaker 4 No, yeah. And then Gilly did a funny video response with like, you know, flower or something all over his face.
Just being like,

Speaker 4 stay out of the stay out of my business.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it all started because I assume Cam went on Johnny's podcast and talked shit about Jalen Hurts, I think.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 There's just been a lot of Cam Newton versus Jalen Hurts discourse in the last two weeks. Got it.

Speaker 1 And people are simultaneously not appreciating Jalen Hurts for winning Super Bowl and also forgetting that Cam Newton was fucking amazing. Really good football.
Yeah. He won an MVP.

Speaker 1 He did. Won an MVP.
He got Ron Rivera to the Super Bowl. Did.
People don't talk about that. Remote Ron.

Speaker 1 All right. That was a good one.
Good.

Speaker 4 Who's bad? Good who's bad? Also, Kim Young, first PJ tour one. Yeah.
Been on tour for a long time.

Speaker 1 I thought he had won before. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Him and like Tommy Fleetwood are kind of the everyone thinks they've won, but they haven't.

Speaker 1 Can't win the small one. What was

Speaker 1 I saw? He was insane this weekend. I saw there was like, was it his round two and round three

Speaker 1 combined was like 125 shots. That's so insane.
Yeah. They're playing some Mickey Mouse courses these last couple weeks.
But that means like,

Speaker 1 I mean, there's, like, he could probably beat me on 36 holes.

Speaker 4 If you play 18. If you played 18.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you played 18 from where he played, where he teed off from,

Speaker 4 126 is, like, right, right around there.

Speaker 1 What would you shoot?

Speaker 1 Like, 110?

Speaker 4 126, I could probably shoot 126. They play from so far back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's crazy, though. That is nuts.

Speaker 1 125 shots in two in two days. Huge win for MLB.

Speaker 1 Huge win.

Speaker 1 What is his connection again? He wears the MLB pad. Oh, that's right.
That's right. That's right.
He's sponsored by a different team. That's right, by MLB.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 Okay. Who's back of the week, PFT? My Who's Back of the Week is Tom Brady.
Oh. Tom Brady's back.
Hank, did you know that Tom Brady was back this weekend?

Speaker 4 Here?

Speaker 1 Tom Brady is having statue day on Friday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, 8-12.

Speaker 1 Oh, that makes sense. That does make sense.
They're unveiling the statue. They were going to do it last year, but then they canceled it because

Speaker 1 I think he had a concussion, and then Fox wasn't going to send their A-team, so Tom Brady didn't go to that game.

Speaker 1 So they canceled it. Now they're doing it preseason, week one.
Preseason. Against Commanders.
Against the Commanders. That's true.
We talked about this. But do you think Lighting the Lighthouse?

Speaker 1 Gotta be. I don't know.
I don't think so. What? I don't think he is.

Speaker 1 It's a statue day.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of stuff stuff he has to do

Speaker 1 how long does it take to get down

Speaker 4 what if they and what if the statue is on the lighthouse that would be sick what if yeah what if they they should just redo the lighthouse

Speaker 1 like the statue of liberty but tom brady yeah yes yes with like a semi-limp football in his head that would rock actually that that would be one way for me to come completely around on this fucking fake lighthouse if it's in the shape of tom brady and at the back of his jersey he just says lighthouse yeah

Speaker 4 I hope he likes does the. I think he already has, though.
I think he might have done it first or second, but they have the book up there. That means he would scroll by my page.

Speaker 1 But wait, Hank, they don't actually light the lighthouse. Ring the bell.
You ring the bell. Yeah.
At the lighthouse.

Speaker 4 But you sign the book.

Speaker 4 Every keeper of the light signs a book.

Speaker 4 And so when he's scrolling through it, he'll be like, oh, there's my guy.

Speaker 1 Patriots legend.

Speaker 4 Also, Vrabel went on Frank Walks and was like, I hope to one day. get to a point where they would go to jail for us, this team, talk about the Brady 4.

Speaker 4 I'm there, Vrabel. Oh, already?

Speaker 1 You're already ready?

Speaker 4 I'm already there, yeah.

Speaker 4 I would literally

Speaker 4 kill a man for Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 1 Did you see Brady at Raiders camp? No. Oh, yeah.
He was all over the place. How's he looking?

Speaker 1 It basically confirms that anyone who puts on any Raiders logos look cool all the time. That is awesome.

Speaker 1 It's an all-time hat logo.

Speaker 1 The silver and black. Yeah, he looks cool.
Yeah, there was a bunch of, there was a bunch of. He was at the practice.

Speaker 4 I'm not a huge fan of that.

Speaker 1 He was at the practice uh where pete carroll was throwing false flags if you're a uh if you're a raiders fan you like the fact that tom brady owns your team or has an ownership stake yeah you like that but also is there a part of you that's seeing him wearing the silver and black makes you be like that motherfucker why can't he just play with a tuck rule oh yeah but also why can't he just play probably it would just give you flashbacks of like what what's going on right now because he looks like he could play still he does so like that would be the hey why can't you just play when you know know, although Gino, they got Gino.

Speaker 1 What if something happens to Gino? What if he gets banged up or something this year? You think Tom Brady would think about it?

Speaker 1 It would definitely be

Speaker 1 a Smith's take. Yeah.
It would cross his mind.

Speaker 1 I think it would cross his mind.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was, yeah, with John Spytek, our friend John Spytek, who was Brady's college teammate in Michigan, who's the GM of the Raiders now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to buy some, I might buy some Raiders

Speaker 1 stock this year just because of Geno and Pete Carroll. Seeing Pete Carroll,

Speaker 1 what was that? And Brady. No, I don't think that he has anything to do with them being good this year, unless he plays, but it's more of the Geno and Pete.

Speaker 1 Pete Carroll is like, the Raiders have been all over the place. Pete Carroll feels like there's going to be some consistency there.
He's running to practice.

Speaker 1 He's old, but he's young. I think maybe Christian Wilkins saw Tom Brady wearing that Raiders, and he was like, you look good.

Speaker 1 You look real good, Tom.

Speaker 1 Let's get weird with it.

Speaker 1 Let me kiss you on the top of your head.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Is that your only who's back? Yeah, just Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 My Who's Pack. Why is Hanken? Take it.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 we talked about the

Speaker 4 Statue Day a couple weeks ago, like a month ago.

Speaker 1 But Statue Week. The week's here.

Speaker 1 Well, it's next week, if it's 8-12.

Speaker 4 It might not be 8-12. I might have just made that up.

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to be this Friday. This upcoming Friday.
It's not 8-12. He made that up.

Speaker 4 6-12 was Brady Day.

Speaker 1 Okay. Wow.
You're firing today.

Speaker 1 I think of Hangover Hank again.

Speaker 1 When I said that, I really knew it when I said they should throw a pocket pussy on, and then I said, Asakuran, he's like, no, that was a pocket pussy.

Speaker 4 When I said 8-12, you're like, oh, yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I mean, it did. You just threw it out there.
And then I looked and I was like, that's a Tuesday. Okay, they're playing on a Tuesday.
So it's Friday?

Speaker 1 88.

Speaker 1 88 degrees. It's 88 this Friday.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back of the week is the Miami Marlins.

Speaker 1 Because the Miami Marlins swept the Yankees for the first time in franchise history, they also

Speaker 1 have been playing awesome ball. They're back to 500.
Miami Marlins are 31-15 since June 9th. They're 26-10 since mid-June.
They might sneak into the playoffs. They're six games out of the wild card.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Fun story going on in Miami.
Crazy to think that they're so far ahead of the Braves right now. They are.

Speaker 1 If you were to say that at the start of the season, people would think you're insane. But yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 the fish are good. Yeah, they also are the only team in MLB history that do not have a losing record against the New York Yankees in the regular season.
That's kind of crazy. Kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 And they have overall a winning record when you include the 2003 World Series. And this was their first sweep.
And this was their first sweep.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah, pretty nuts.
Saw Marlinsman at the game. Well, that was also part of it.
Motherfucker. Marlin's Man.
No, I didn't mean to say that. Marlin's Man.

Speaker 1 Didn't mean to say that. Marlinsman is also back.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, he might be the reason why the Marlins are back. I think his little companion might be the reason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Marlin's Man. Let's see.
He said,

Speaker 1 Althena visiting from Hawaii, sweet girl. Her TikTok is some.

Speaker 1 Some random chick. Some random chick.
So go follow her. And then what was his follow-up? No, we don't need to see the follow-up.
The follow-up was...

Speaker 1 That was the end of that story.

Speaker 1 That's the end of that reporting.

Speaker 1 His header is still in Valor, by the way. He's not actually fighter pilot.
Okay, keep going. The loser would pretend to do that.
Yeah, he then tweeted out her TikTok.

Speaker 1 He said, for those that don't know her, she is super smart, really nice, and very good family. And no, I am not cheating on.

Speaker 1 He's not cheating on that person because they don't have a relationship. So, yes, I agree.
Now, is she still a 10? Is that

Speaker 1 for some random chick? I think he's talking about she is still a 10 for some random chick. That's Alcina.
But yeah, Marlins Man's back. I mean, rough and rowdy, Marlinsman.

Speaker 1 That'd be a sick undercard for Johnny Manzel against Gilly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some random chick now, Max is looking up some random chick.

Speaker 1 She's nice. Looks like a nice lady.
Comes from a good family. Yeah.
Marlinsman said it all.

Speaker 1 Really nice.

Speaker 1 Really nice woman. She looks smart.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Marlins are back, though. Good story.

Speaker 1 I don't want them to get in the playoffs. That's not a video of her making out with Marlins, man, is it? Where? On her TikTok? She's making out with somebody.

Speaker 1 No, that's not Marlins. No, that's not Marlins, man.
Okay, good.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That's another woman. Hmm.
They can do that?

Speaker 1 Apparently. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 Zach, your who's back.

Speaker 1 My who's back of the week is Mr. Beast.
Okay. So Mr.

Speaker 1 Beast had put together a clean water initiative, hashtag Team Water, and in just two days they've raised like, I think it's like $6.7 million for clean water around the world.

Speaker 1 They say each dollar donated will provide one person clean water for an entire year. So they've gotten together like a bunch of different

Speaker 1 sounds like Chris Long's thing.

Speaker 1 The water boys. Yeah.
He just stole Chris Long's idea.

Speaker 1 Could be similar,

Speaker 1 but I just thought it was an all-time thing to, in two days, bring that much water to the people. He's bringing a lot of water to the people.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 if you'd like to donate, please go over there. Anybody listening, maybe donate some clean water.
Zach, can you do the Mr. Beast face for all your thumbnails from now on? I can do that for EPFT.

Speaker 1 I think that's a good thumb. That's a good face.
Yeah. Oh, we also should have mentioned Luca's back because he signed his extension with the Lakers.
Yeah. And looks very skinny.

Speaker 1 And he is going to make a billion dollars. Yeah.
Yeah. And in salary.
This was actually kind of a big deal because the Lakers didn't have,

Speaker 1 they didn't have the financial trump card against other teams like they would have, like the Mavericks. Yeah, so they did have to kind of sell him on it.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 he's officially going to be a Laker for at least, what, the next three years? Yeah. Yeah, two years.
And he's taking the stance of like, I just get in good shape every offseason.

Speaker 1 This offseason was no different. Yeah, it had nothing to do with

Speaker 1 everybody talking about how I was fat and then also being due for a contract. Yeah.
Nothing. He does look great.
He looks very skinny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a picture of him because he was at the national card show. And he looked very skinny.
Good for Luca.

Speaker 1 And also, he, I think the first thing he did was the first thing Luca Donczich did with his new contract or signing his new contract. I bet you guys won't guess it.

Speaker 1 It made me laugh. For Luca?

Speaker 4 In and out.

Speaker 1 Smoked cigarette. No, he went to Las Vegas to see the Backstreet Boys at the sphere.
Very cool. Pretty awesome.
Pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 1 Where else would you want to go with the boys?

Speaker 1 Where else would you want to go with the boys?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's do

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Speaker 1 Ah, okay.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore of words that begin with Q or things that begin with Q.

Speaker 1 There was controversy on Friday? There was no controversy on Friday. Oh, wait, there was.
There was a lot of controversy. Memes.
It shouldn't count. You're a sleazebag.
I'm not a sleazebag.

Speaker 1 I'm not a sleazebag. You're a sleazebag.
How am I sleazebag? Because you tweeted out the video of

Speaker 1 anything. I didn't tweet out anything.
I forgot about this shit. I didn't tweet out anything.
Yeah, you did. No.
You did.

Speaker 1 The Mount Rushmore should be voided immediately because it was tweeted out by the Barcelona Main account that has 30.2 million followers cross-platform.

Speaker 1 And then you tweeted

Speaker 1 the video.

Speaker 4 How'd you let them get access to it?

Speaker 1 Good question. Great question.
I didn't send them the folder.

Speaker 4 Who did? Funnels through you. It's your department, social.

Speaker 1 It is your department. Well, you're buddies with Head of Social.

Speaker 4 This could have been his.

Speaker 4 He's head of research, my personal head of research.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so this could have been a collusion attempt to take down Rushmore. Who won Rushmore?

Speaker 1 Oh, now it's interesting. Your good friend Gaz.

Speaker 4 Me and PFT won.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everybody knows PFTA

Speaker 1 are the favorite characters of the show. Your good friend Paz.
You were in that meeting when that guy said that.

Speaker 4 Number one host.

Speaker 4 But I don't have access to, I don't, I don't have access to those videos.

Speaker 2 It is interesting that

Speaker 2 the team that came in last is the one team that doesn't have millions of followers.

Speaker 1 I think it's interesting that memes tweeted out the video.

Speaker 1 I didn't tweet out the video. I'm looking at the video right now, tweeted at 11:11 a.m.
on Friday from at Pardon My Meme. Yes, I was bringing attention that

Speaker 1 it was already tweeted out. Did you tweet the video out? I didn't tweet it out.

Speaker 1 I quote tweeted the video that was posted. So your followers were all

Speaker 1 BMT lists. So are you saying you could be a Pardon My Take fan and not a Barstool fan? I'm saying that those people might exist, yes.
Yeah. No.
Absolutely, those people could exist. They don't exist.

Speaker 1 They do exist. If you follow my account, you follow the Barstool.

Speaker 1 You said, hey, this is people that are

Speaker 4 part of my take, yak.

Speaker 1 Calling the memes army to go vote for you.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Not Barcelona, but if you follow my account, you probably follow that account. No, there's tons of access.
There's 6.6 million people that follow that. There's tons of memes heads out there.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I brought it to your guys' attention immediately saying, how did this happen? This should be voided, and the vote shouldn't count.

Speaker 1 And nobody responded. Well,

Speaker 1 I don't know how it happened.

Speaker 1 You're the one who works in the social department.

Speaker 1 You are our social department. I'm the PMT's social department.

Speaker 1 Can't you say those ground rules? Can't you be like, hey, we don't tweet this out until after the poll is over? Probably should. It seems like something that if you rectified that,

Speaker 4 we'll set a meeting. We'll do a meeting tomorrow, memes.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 4 So it doesn't count.

Speaker 4 Me and gas. It counts.

Speaker 1 I mean, you've tried to rig this every which way.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Hank. Nothing.
All right. Mount Rushmore Things that begin with Q.
Who's up first?

Speaker 4 I believe we are up first. Okay.

Speaker 2 I did no fighting. I'm done fighting.

Speaker 1 The one time he didn't.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Mees was mad that I didn't fight. I said I'm done fighting.
I fought so much last week.

Speaker 2 My watch has ended.

Speaker 2 I'm going into this week with good vibes. I was bad vibes last week.

Speaker 1 My fight guy.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to fight. I know, I didn't want to fight.

Speaker 1 He wasn't there for you.

Speaker 1 I believe PFT and Hank are first. And then Zach and I are second? Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 4 All right. For the 1-1 things, let's start with Q, PFT and I will take Keso.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Good pick, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Great pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Keso is amazing.
We'll go with the most important position in all sports quarterback. Yeah, that too.

Speaker 1 Have to.

Speaker 1 Max is going Kinsenyara.

Speaker 1 Hank, what did I put on the list? This is.

Speaker 1 We have to actually, like,

Speaker 1 I said, do not pick Kinsiniera parties. Let Max take it.

Speaker 1 He's sick.

Speaker 1 He's done fighting.

Speaker 1 Zach goes, we're just brain-dumping words. He knows he thought it.
He knows he thought it.

Speaker 1 We were brain-dumping words. And Zach goes, you ever been to a Kinson-Yara? And I was like, no.
And Max is going to pick it anyway.

Speaker 1 He definitely thought it. All right.
So, what's your wait, so were you guys deciding between Queso and quarterback?

Speaker 4 Yeah, we were. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it was literally going to be whatever you guys didn't go, we were going to go. He has a list on his phone.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got to go. We got to auto-draft Kinson-Yara.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 It goes right to the highest value.

Speaker 4 There's a relatable one to this situation.

Speaker 1 No, you have to fill out your roster.

Speaker 1 It's like when you auto-draft on, you know, when you take a kicker in the seventh round, no one here has taken, you know, underage girl parties, so Max has to take it. When is he coming back?

Speaker 1 He might just have quit.

Speaker 1 Can I say something real quick? This is a filler for Max to come back.

Speaker 1 Doing this exercise with the letter Q, there are so many words that I don't know why, but in my head, I was like, that doesn't start with Q. And then I, like,

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't know why I didn't think, like, queso, I was like, oh, yeah, that does, because it's, like, kind of a C. I started looking at the lowercase Q so much that it started to melt my brain.

Speaker 1 It was like, what is that letter? Yeah, it looks like a P. I was, I was mad at myself that I was just like, holy shit, you're so dumb.
Yeah. You just didn't even realize these words start with Q.

Speaker 1 Also, a lot of Q words that don't even have U next to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Crazy. Is he coming back? Memes, I think you got to go.
Memes. Memes, we're going to pick Kinson Yaro if he doesn't come back.

Speaker 1 No, they said they're going to auto-draft.

Speaker 1 Auto-draft.

Speaker 1 He just said it's fast for her.

Speaker 1 Did that get picked up?

Speaker 1 Oh, man. The FBI is going to get a hold of that.

Speaker 1 All right, we're going to go quesadilla. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Pick Kinciniera.

Speaker 1 Just do it.

Speaker 1 Can't do it.

Speaker 1 And then we'll go Queen Latifah. Oh, okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Take our pillow.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wow. He's going to be so mad when he comes back in.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Queen Latifah, Max. We go five.

Speaker 1 I like five. It's a great pick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is one Zach didn't even think of. And when I said it out loud, his eyes lit up and he was so excited.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. We would like to take quarter pounder.
Quarter pounder, McDonald's. That's a good pick.
He was like, oh, shit. That's a good pick.
How did I not even think about it? That check goats.

Speaker 1 I didn't think about that big head. All right, Hank, you got this, bro.

Speaker 1 Thanks, bro. Come on, little bro.
We want parentheses, McDonald's. No.
Why? No, quarter-pounder. What? Quarter-pounder? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You picked a quarter-pounder. McDonald's.
Quarter pound. Come on.
That's PF. Are we really going to quarter pounder?

Speaker 4 It's things that start with Q, not Q.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's parentheses. No, quarter-pounder.
Are you guys serious? PFT, you agree that's ridiculous. It's a burnt.
It's a burn. Okay, I.

Speaker 1 I honestly think that quarter pounder looks better. Okay.
But

Speaker 1 I'm fine with you wanting if you want it, you can have it.

Speaker 1 You're being a real dick. I think putting parentheses, McDonald, it hurts their case.

Speaker 4 We are going to take Quentin Tarantino movies. Okay.
Good pick.

Speaker 1 Add it on the list.

Speaker 4 And then with our third pick,

Speaker 4 we are going to take,

Speaker 4 just based off the movie, never actually had any myself, but Qualutes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Good pick.

Speaker 1 Okay, not drug guys. Not drug guys.
Not drug guys. Tuosie and Qualutes.
Yeah. Not drug guys.

Speaker 4 Long before the twos,

Speaker 4 there was the Qs.

Speaker 1 Got to get loose. Okay.

Speaker 1 What do we want to do here?

Speaker 1 I like 12 or maybe 10. What do you think?

Speaker 1 What about six?

Speaker 1 See, he's just sounds like you don't love six. I like six.
I.

Speaker 1 Not much of a six guy? No, he doesn't sound like he likes six.

Speaker 1 Six can get overstimulating sometimes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 All right. You want to go 12? Let's go 12.

Speaker 1 You think? It is the.

Speaker 1 No, you know what? You pick.

Speaker 1 I like your court. I like your choice.
The balls in your court. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Don't take whatever you think is going to do the best.

Speaker 1 They're all great picks. We have a great list.

Speaker 1 I like your instincts. Go with your instincts.
Go with your gun. Okay, we're going to take Quavo.
Okay, from Migos.

Speaker 1 Okay. There we go.
R.I.P. Skirt, skirt.
Nope. He's not dead.

Speaker 1 You don't know what I meant by R.I.P.

Speaker 1 He's not dead. Definitely not dead.
Rap in peace. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Max is back. Fill him in.

Speaker 1 Memes made a bad pick. No, I like Queen Latifah.
He took Queen Latifah number two. What's your favorite Queen Latifah song?

Speaker 1 I don't know. She's a queen.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 No one's done this, right? Yeah. Yeah.
We'll take Queen the Band.

Speaker 1 Okay, good pick. Had it on our list.

Speaker 1 We got.

Speaker 1 You want to do the cartoon?

Speaker 2 Don't.

Speaker 1 You think that. What? I think he's overthinking.
Were you thinking of

Speaker 1 Doug Funny's Ultra Ego? No, that was on my list. It's a good pick.
Can I pick it?

Speaker 1 I think you're thinking. Max, if I can interject real quick, I think the Queen Latifah pick is going to be the end of your guys' draft here.
Geeketty. It doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 I don't care. Queen Latifa is a good pick.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 is the or something?

Speaker 1 You're a big Queen Latifah fan? Yeah, in the second round? I love Queen Latifah. She did that movie scene where she rode a bike through the city.

Speaker 4 Okay. Taxi.
Taxi driver. Okay.

Speaker 1 What are you thinking? Shane likes her. Pick it.
As do Quagmire. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Zach, I think we should go with 11 just because if we're being true to ourselves and what made us laugh the most.

Speaker 1 Rip it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Our last pick, we're going to take quitting. No better feeling.
We have that in the list, too. Yeah.
Quitting is the best. Quitting's good.
Especially if you're losing. Yeah.
Just quitting.

Speaker 2 I don't think that'll look good on a graph at all.

Speaker 1 That's fine. You quit on this Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Quitting is. You literally just quit.
Quitting is so satisfying. And it felt good.
It's the best feeling. If you ever quit a job you don't like, best fucking feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 When I quit golf for those three days, I felt awesome. Just being like, you know what? I'm not going to do this thing anymore.
Yeah. It's so good.
This thing sucks.

Speaker 1 I can do anything now that I'm not doing this old thing again. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 4 I don't know, PFT.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of picks left on the board.

Speaker 4 There are a lot of picks left on the board.

Speaker 1 There's tons, Hank.

Speaker 4 Do we go with what's better for society? Do we go with what's.

Speaker 1 You guys should play it to yourself. I've got to like more.
I've got an interest to see what Hank thinks is better for society.

Speaker 4 Well, there's an obvious one that's great for society.

Speaker 1 We played one that

Speaker 1 we thought was funny to ourselves.

Speaker 1 Don't pander to the board.

Speaker 4 I'm not pandering. I'm just trying to make the best pick on the board.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, I would say

Speaker 1 I'm going to highlight it. Okay.
Is this the one that you're saying is good for society?

Speaker 4 It's our second thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, don't pick that. Okay.
Oh, you got to pick it now. That's a bad pick.
Pick it. I would say either the one, I would say number three or number five.
All right.

Speaker 1 Five is a good one. All right, we're going to go with, I like five.

Speaker 4 We're going to go quests.

Speaker 4 Quests. Anytime you go, anytime you do anything

Speaker 4 and you say it's a quest instead of like, I'm going to the grocery store, but you say I was on a quest. Yep.
It just sounds fun. It's awesome.

Speaker 4 Anything you do that can even somehow be described as a quest is fun.

Speaker 1 It's an adventure. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like if someone asks you to go on a quest, it doesn't matter what it is, it already sounds more fun than just like going on a trip.

Speaker 1 What was left off? When was the last time you went on a quest? Oh, dude, you'd go on quests all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Last night? Yeah, I haven't gone on any quests.

Speaker 1 Zach, I'm being honest, Zach was high on it, so I have to back up my teammate. I can't.

Speaker 4 He was like when Zach goes to McDonald's, that might be a quest.

Speaker 1 Quest, definitely. What were you guys deciding between, Max?

Speaker 2 We honestly didn't have much on the board.

Speaker 1 You didn't have anything left?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 I'm happy you talked me out of quantum physics, BFT.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's what Hank thought was good for society. It is.

Speaker 4 MRI, lasers, GPS, like so many great things that we use in our day-to-day life are direct results of quantum physics. Without quantum physics, MRIs

Speaker 4 are results of quantum physics.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, a lot of things.

Speaker 1 I just said, I didn't want you to box yourself into the corner when you would have to then explain what quantum physics were. Yeah.
What do we got? What are we doing? LEDs. What do we got?

Speaker 1 Mobile phones.

Speaker 1 GPS.

Speaker 1 We had Quad Box. Yep.
Had that.

Speaker 1 That was six that we were thinking about.

Speaker 4 That was

Speaker 1 Quad Box is for sure a better pick than Quest's. No.
Quad Box is a good pick.

Speaker 1 That was one that we almost went with. We had Quebec.
Okay. Queens of the Stone Age? Yep.
Doesn't Canada hate people from Quebec?

Speaker 4 Isn't that like the red-headed stepchild of Canada?

Speaker 1 I think it's more like people from Quebec don't really like the rest of Canada. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Qdoba? Qdoba. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 I think the best pick that we had that we didn't pick, but it would have, who knows how it would look and everything. But quilted toilet paper, three ply.

Speaker 1 That's the best. That's a good one.
You know, you got it. I mean, you can't go to two ply, one ply, goddammit.

Speaker 4 I think it would have depended on the parentheses, and I feel like we would have got overruled. But if we could have put quarters, the drinking game,

Speaker 4 would have been a good pick. I feel like you guys would have just made a say quarters.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No. I mean, I had, I had,

Speaker 1 I was trying to figure out Brady Quinn's spiral.

Speaker 4 Didn't really work. Qui-Gon Gin.

Speaker 1 There was a moment that,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 2 I don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 Star Wars episode one?

Speaker 1 I've never seen that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You got our natural reaction. I saw that on the list.
I was going to pretend that I knew what you were talking about.

Speaker 4 Liam Neeson, he's like the most. Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 Dark Wall kills them.

Speaker 1 Zach threw out questions, and I go, why? And he goes, exactly. There you go.
He got me. He got me good with that.
You don't learn much if you don't ask questions.

Speaker 1 What did you say about questions?

Speaker 1 That's how we learn everything.

Speaker 1 Without questions, we have nothing. We have literally nothing.

Speaker 4 I thought something similar, and for just a question mark and just having the graphic have a question mark.

Speaker 1 But that's not a key.

Speaker 4 That would be abstract, but confusing, but I don't think it would have played.

Speaker 1 I don't think it would have played.

Speaker 4 But think of how often people use the question mark.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank put Quantum of Solids on there. Okay.

Speaker 4 Actually, bad movie, though, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 Quakers, the religion. Shout out my Quakers out there.
My friends. Quiet Car on the train.
Quiet car. Pretty good.
Pretty nice when you get it. Quasars?

Speaker 1 Zach's going to be up all night. I got him on Quasars.
What are quasars? Quasars are like super black holes that shoot a huge fucking light through it.

Speaker 1 That's pretty rad. Yeah.
Qatar, the country. Look up quasars.
I know the Emir is a listener right now. Mr.
Amir, hope you're finding your day to be peaceful and bountiful as always. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, not a lot.

Speaker 1 How do you spell this? Quasar. Quirt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there you go. A quasar is a very luminous, distant galactic nucleus powered by a supermassive black hole.
These objects are incredibly bright, sometimes outshining entire galaxies.

Speaker 1 Quasars are thought to be powered by material falling into a supermassive black hole. You lost me.
Which heats up and emits intense radiation as it spirals inward. Look at that.

Speaker 1 Look at the visual of it. That is pretty sick.
It's fucking awesome. Yeah.
It's like God peeing into a toilet. Yeah.
And it's so sick. Yeah.
Quasars. Get everyone onto Quasars.

Speaker 1 The QAnon Shaman. Yes.
QAnon. That guy rocks.
QVC Network. Okay, yeah.
Really fun. Shopping.
Really fun. I don't know if this would play, but I've always just kind of been interested in it.
Quicksand.

Speaker 1 Is it real? Yeah. I don't know.
Kind of cool.

Speaker 2 I said Quakers. Quakers.
I don't really know anything about them. I said Quakers too.

Speaker 1 You know one. Keishes?

Speaker 2 Penn.

Speaker 1 Me. You're a Quaker? I'm a Quaker, bro.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.
I just know the Penn Quaker.

Speaker 1 I don't have to fight in a war. It's pretty sick.
That is.

Speaker 4 I feel like you said that on macrodosing, and that was never talked about on this show.

Speaker 1 He said it before. Life hack.
Really? Become Quaker so you don't have to serve.

Speaker 1 I don't know. What, the military part?

Speaker 4 The Quaker.

Speaker 1 He's a Quaker. Yeah.
Well, I think he said that he was raised as a Quaker. I was.
I haven't been to a a meeting in probably 30 years.

Speaker 4 That's what it's called? Yeah, meeting me.

Speaker 2 It's called meeting.

Speaker 1 Friends meeting. What? Yeah.
It's called the Society of Friends. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 You just kind of hang out in silence. There's no real leader.
And then if you're compelled to speak, you speak. Sometimes people talk a lot.

Speaker 4 Do they read? Is there any like

Speaker 1 literally?

Speaker 1 What's on your mind, memes? Memes has a banger right now. Do they have oatmeal?

Speaker 1 We do not make oatmeal. Okay.
I've never produced oatmeal. Although I do enjoy it.
Memes, what's the banger that you're thinking of?

Speaker 1 No, does the tallest person stand up in the meeting and they're the leader?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep, that's what happens. That's why I quit.

Speaker 1 That's why I stopped going. You're such a dick.

Speaker 1 Quality time with the boys.

Speaker 1 Zach had that one. That's a good one.
Zach, rip off a couple that you had. What do you guys think about Quartz Countertops? You guys had a good idea.

Speaker 1 They were fantastic in kitchens. Quartz in general, I think, is an underrated material.
Definitely beautiful. Yeah.
Queer Eye of the Show? Yeah. I've never watched it, but

Speaker 1 it's an an iconic show. Do you think this would have played in any way because it's such a funny word, Queef?

Speaker 1 We talked about it. Yeah.
Don't really know.

Speaker 1 I enjoy a good Kweef.

Speaker 1 It's funny. It's funny to call someone a Kweef or say the word Kweef.
Yeah, it's funny. I don't know if

Speaker 1 an actual Kweef would be funny. Quake, the video game?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good game. Quayhog is the town from Family Guy.

Speaker 1 Is it also like a clam or an oyster? Yep.

Speaker 1 Love a guy who does a quick pitch. Yeah, quick pitches are good.
Pretty awesome. Quick trip.
Baseball. The gas station? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else we got?

Speaker 4 There's some Quentin Richardson.

Speaker 1 Quentin Richardson. Yeah.
That's pretty cool. Quinn Snyder.
That was good. Quincy Doobie.
Quincy Acey.

Speaker 2 What? Zach said a quickie.

Speaker 11 Quickie. Quickie, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all I know.

Speaker 1 Same. Quickie's.
That's great. Same.

Speaker 1 Read the shirt.

Speaker 1 All right. Quicksilver.
If you want to look like you're a surfer,

Speaker 1 bro.

Speaker 1 Q-Tips.

Speaker 1 Q-tips. I hate Q-tips.
I love a good Q-tip. What do you hate about Q-Tips?

Speaker 4 I just feel like I'm hitting my brain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it probably is that close.

Speaker 1 Just scraping your brain.

Speaker 4 Not a Q-tip guy.

Speaker 1 Quiznos.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Quiznos was so good.
Quiznos, I I was out on it. Oh, the toast.
No, but they toasted the

Speaker 1 experience the prime of Quiznos. Yeah.
Quiznos was its prime, like 2000 to 2004, 2005. It was different.

Speaker 4 Quiznos and Sonic

Speaker 4 had so many commercials on, and neither of them were anywhere near where I lived growing up. So they were like exotic.
Like anytime I could get Quiznos or Sonic, I was like, this is huge.

Speaker 4 This is a huge day.

Speaker 1 Quiznos had like the little mini-toasted ones, like the wraps.

Speaker 1 Those were, yeah, around like 2008 that was it was hot they were so good and then and then subway realized hey we can also put a giant toaster in our restaurant yeah this could work for us as well uh okay any any other oh quiche i think we said that but quiches are good they're very french but they're good they're okay yeah quinoa you don't like quiche rather than doing omelette quinoa is gross

Speaker 1 garbage healthy it's garbage health super healthy garbage if you ask me would i rather have a quiche or an omelette? I'm doing omelette. Well, yeah, but that's not what.

Speaker 1 A quiche is not for an omelette setting. A quiche is for going to someone's house for like a breakfast.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 I like a quiche better than an omelette.

Speaker 1 They have like bagels and shit set up.

Speaker 1 If you're going to give me the option of having like the baked pastry egg thing, I'm going frittata.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 You're not ordering a quiche at a restaurant. Correct.

Speaker 1 But quiches are perfect for if you show up to someone, someone's like, hey, we're going to have breakfast. You know, come over to our house.
There's a quiche there.

Speaker 2 Isn't a frittata just a quiche without the pie crust?

Speaker 1 It's frittata.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the pie crust is awesome. The pie crust is great.

Speaker 1 Give me the frittada. Hey, it's good to have you back, Max.
Talk about food. Me and you,

Speaker 1 this is our spot. Yeah.
The pie crust. It is.

Speaker 1 Kiche. We came back on quiches.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like quiche. I like quicheish.
I like quiche's superior to frittata.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Any others?

Speaker 1 Zach, did you have any others that you had that you were trying to throw around there? I was pre-tapped.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 1 Quizlet, the

Speaker 5 flashcard website.

Speaker 1 Yep. Also, quizzes.

Speaker 1 No, I hate quizzes.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think quizzes are because it's not a test. And it's never going to be graded like a test.
And it's pretty quick. I kind of like a quiz.

Speaker 1 I guess I could see it for an honorable mention, but no chance that's on the. No, no, you can't pick it.
But I

Speaker 1 always didn't hate quizzes because you're like, oh, okay. There's going to be like, what, 10 questions here? It's going to be like 1% of your grade.
Who cares? Queen Latifah, though. Good pick.

Speaker 1 Throw a quiz at me. Queen Latifah.
You said Quest. Yeah, Quests.

Speaker 2 Like, you can't say Queen Latifah is a terrible pick when you have Quests on the board.

Speaker 1 All of Queen Latifah's movies are about her going on quests. Wait, you don't like Quests?

Speaker 2 Quests?

Speaker 2 What does that even mean?

Speaker 1 It's a little goofy.

Speaker 1 Again, I got to back my guy, Zach, though. It's a great pick.

Speaker 1 Queen Latifah is a best. I got to keep his confidence.

Speaker 1 Imagine if we just get like a bayhive of Queen Latifah fans and these guys just fucking crush this draft.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Saquon, and then we have Lane Johnson and Cam Jorgens.
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Speaker 1 Now, here's Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest,

Speaker 1 the best running back in the NFL. It is Grit Week presented by Hey Dude, it's Saquon Barkley, Super Bowl champ.
Saquon, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 First question that we start every Grit Week interview with is, what does the word grit mean to you?

Speaker 5 What does the word grit mean to me?

Speaker 5 I feel like it's just all about having that mentality of

Speaker 5 finding ways to get through it, whether it's adversity or ups and downs, find a way to battle in.

Speaker 5 And right now, we're kind of in that mentality in camp where you got to have that grit on those hot days, on the long days in the summer, and all that stuff adds up for you to have a great year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you have fun while you're being gritty? Like while things suck here in camp, is it still fun for you?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think you have certain ways you do it. For me, it's like the competitive sides come out.
So, you know, throughout the grit, sometimes I'll just talk shit and say crazy stuff to the defense.

Speaker 5 Don't really even mean it, but it helps me get through it. It pumps them up and it just gets the juices flowing even more.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, congrats on not only the Super Bowl, but Madden cover. That's pretty damn cool.
Madden's coming out.

Speaker 1 Like, obviously, you played it as a kid.

Speaker 1 When you found out that you were going to be on the cover of Madden, you're like, holy shit, this is insane. Yeah, I say this all the time.

Speaker 5 Every time, anytime someone asks me that question, they actually ask you, do you want to be on a cover of Madden?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, imagine if you said no. Like, I wonder how many people have ever

Speaker 1 9004 to curse.

Speaker 5 You have to, they just ask you first, and like, you have to accept being on a cover of Madden. And, like, to me, I'm like, I mean, why would I ever say no? Yeah, that's not even a question.

Speaker 5 Why would I ever say no?

Speaker 5 But, you know, being on the cover of Madden and just how many guys that I grew up watching and been fans of, you know, watching football for a very long time, and to be in that fraternity now,

Speaker 5 it's something that, you know, it's

Speaker 5 my kids is going to always be able to go back and go to this certain Madden and see their dad on it. And my nieces and nephews and my teammates seeing it.
So it's cool. It's really cool.

Speaker 1 And 99 rating.

Speaker 5 99. That's

Speaker 1 that's I don't gotta, I don't gotta go choose him up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't gotta go and edit my player and make myself a 99 anymore. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But this cool 99, Madden, and like Madden's just like part of the culture of football. And growing up, like you want to make it to NFL, but you think about being a 99 overall.

Speaker 5 You think about being on the cover Madden, being in Madden in general.

Speaker 5 So my life has been super, super amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you still play Madden? Yeah, of course. You play with yourself?

Speaker 5 I play Madden in a weird way, right? I guess it's not really that weird, but to me, I play franchise mode.

Speaker 5 I go go on, I'll take a team, I'll trade all their great players, get as many draft picks as I can, and then draft random guys and kind of make a rebuild. So, that's like how I play Madden.

Speaker 1 Are you playing with the Eagles?

Speaker 5 No, we're pretty good.

Speaker 1 So, I don't so who are you playing with?

Speaker 5 I'll pick a random team. What team are you playing with right now? Right now, it's probably either the Jets or the Rams.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you might win a Super Bowl with the Jets. So, that's what I do.

Speaker 5 Like, I'll get

Speaker 5 you can like scout players and you can draft, and I'll get a good quarterback, good running back, and I'll basically trade all the guys, like any player you think on that team and get as many picks as I can and then rebuild, get a new random coach and take him to the championship.

Speaker 1 That's kind of how the Jets' real GM

Speaker 1 plays Madden too. You could be the Jets GM.
Hey, listen,

Speaker 5 I will stay away from that. I'm a Jets fan growing up.

Speaker 5 I'm not a fan anymore, but

Speaker 5 a Jets fan growing up. So

Speaker 5 I know the struggles,

Speaker 5 but I also know the glory days with Mark Sanchez and them boys. So

Speaker 5 I'm going to let those those guys be GMs. I'm going to stick to the running football a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's big for the position of running back, too, to have representation on the cover of back to back. Back to back.

Speaker 1 And be like, yeah, that's right, because it was Christian McCaffrey, right? So are running backs back?

Speaker 5 I don't think running backs ever left, in my opinion. I think it was just something that,

Speaker 5 you know, people had some fun with, I guess.

Speaker 1 It was one offseason where it was. It was one offseason.

Speaker 5 Zoom call. Exactly.
And they didn't want to. They didn't want to pay certain guys and they had the tag at their advantage.
And I think, you know, looking at both sides is a smart thing for them to do.

Speaker 5 But it's football. You got to be able to play great defense and you got to be able to run the ball.
And when you run the ball, people think about just the running back position. It takes all of us.

Speaker 5 And you just see the two guys out here. They're a big product of that.
But our offensive line, our tight ends, our scheme,

Speaker 5 you don't rush for 2,000 yards by accident. And it takes a group to do that.

Speaker 5 You need to run the ball well and play great defense to be able to compete at high level.

Speaker 1 Have you thought about, or maybe you've done this, apologizing to Joe Shane for just the fact that that clip just goes viral all the time? And you kind of rubbed it in. Like 2,000 yards.

Speaker 1 You could have done a little bit worse.

Speaker 5 I think, you know, it's kind of on them. When you look at it from the inside, like...
they have to sign off on that and make the decision for that clip to go out there.

Speaker 5 And that's what they did. But it's funny because you would think from social media, like there's this big beef with me and Joe Shane and like the Giants.

Speaker 5 And in reality, like we're all, you know, I still talk to them here and there before the game. I got to see all of them before the game last year, the end of the season, where I didn't end up playing.

Speaker 5 But got to see them and they were super happy for me for rushing for 2,000 yards the week prior. It's a business.
The NFL is a weird business.

Speaker 5 You know, obviously, I'm not a fan of that side of it when it comes to the money side.

Speaker 5 You know, those guys were a big reason why I was able to get back.

Speaker 5 Like before I had an ACL, Ankle and Dage and all those guys came in and believed in me and trusted in me and kind of helped me get my swagger back and is a big reason why you see the type of play i am right now yeah i think if the hard knocks clip didn't exist it wouldn't be it just was i mean it basically all his nightmares came true i'm kind of happy though it saved me yeah how so people thought like oh yeah i just you know i mean so you got to see it depends like you have fans that you know they're just blinded by it and they're just like oh he just left right you got to see that it's like yes we had a negotiated process the year before but that year you know they gave me opportunity to hit the open market which was the right thing to do by the giants a lot of people don't talk about that like they didn't have to do that um so for joe shane and all those guys over there to be like the right thing to do by by him is to let him test the market and i gave them opportunity to match it you know obviously they felt like i wasn't worth what they thought that number was and best thing that ever happened to me yeah i'm here i'm in philly i'm with howie i'm with big dom with all these guys i got the best offensive line of football um we just came off a super bowl win and things are are are continuing to go great.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Was there a part of you that thought, like, is Philly really the right choice because of that rivalry against the Giants? And obviously, you're close with a lot of guys on the Giants, right?

Speaker 1 Still to this day.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 It never, like, I used to hate Philly. I tell these guys all the time.

Speaker 5 Literally, the week leading, the year leading into my last year with New York, we lost to Philly in the playoffs. We lost to him three times in a row.

Speaker 5 And, you know, I was tagged, so I couldn't go into the building, but I would still hang out with the guys in off-season programs and throwing trips.

Speaker 5 And like, we were breaking down on F the Eagles on three. Like, we felt like that was a team that we needed to beat to get to the level that we wanted to get to.

Speaker 5 So, the thing about me choosing and coming to Philadelphia, like, I knew I would get some backlash from some fans, but when you really put a list, me and my family put a list of pros and cons.

Speaker 5 And the only con that stuck out was people might be upset. Yeah, it's like, I can't make you know, decisions based on my life off of what people feel like.

Speaker 5 And I think so far it showed that I made the right decision.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say so.

Speaker 1 You won.

Speaker 5 No, it's a lot.

Speaker 5 It's not about who won.

Speaker 5 It doesn't go like that with just one year. For me, it's coming here.
One, like, I wanted to expand my legacy because I feel like the player that I want to be is still out there.

Speaker 5 But the thing that I've learned coming here, like, I want to be a Hall of Fame type of player, but this organization is outstanding.

Speaker 5 Like, from top to bottom, the type of people that they have, like, every section you could think of, whether it's coaches, whether the staff, whether the training room, like they're just unbelievable people.

Speaker 5 So it's cool winning suit balls and breaking records, but to be able to have

Speaker 5 myself attached to this organization means even more.

Speaker 1 What you just said about being the player that you want to be is really interesting because you've been a great running back in the league for a while, but you've, I think you've evolved too in terms of your style, like picking up new things.

Speaker 1 What's something that like when you got into the league, you made an effort to get better at a certain part of your game that maybe you weren't so strong at, that's evolved yourself into what you are right now?

Speaker 5 I think it's just understanding the scheme, letting the game come to me. I feel like when I was younger, I tried to force it.

Speaker 5 And it's funny, ironically enough, last year I had the longest touchdown runs I've ever had

Speaker 5 as an NFL player. But in the beginning, you know, I always trusted my speed and my athletic ability that I knew I could make that jump cut and get to wherever hole I want to.

Speaker 5 That sometimes I would try to make something out of nothing when there was no need. Now it's just knowing like, no, taking that four, taking that three.

Speaker 5 And when the opportunity comes, God make him pay for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when you get outside, I feel like this last year, if you got outside, it was like, okay, he's just going to score a touchdown right now. Yeah, I got faster somehow.
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 5 But is it really that I get super, did I get that much fast from 28 to 21? I want to say now I just got more efficient with my movements.

Speaker 5 And there's no secret to it because when I'm here training every Thursday,

Speaker 5 I'm hitting high speeds. I'm working on my mechanics every, you know, every single day with Eddie and Nano and D-Wood and Alderman and Ben and all those guys.

Speaker 5 So, just the work that I put in throughout the whole season, it showed up on the field and it showed up on Sundays. And that's the cool thing.

Speaker 5 Everyone gets to see the highlights, but they don't get to see the work that's put into it.

Speaker 1 How mad were your coaches when you did the hurdle?

Speaker 5 No, I think

Speaker 1 they weren't.

Speaker 5 I think it's probably one of the coolest things they've ever seen. Yeah, no, it was cool.

Speaker 1 Very cool play. But afterwards, were they like, hey, please don't do that again? I don't, I don't.
Oh, so you're going to do it again? Nope.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 5 uh i think that was i don't think i know that was the biggest hit i took only person who i can say was really mad about the hurdle or any hurdles i've ever done is my mama okay my mama don't like when i leave my feet um but i think hurdling is in my future again but okay just maybe doing it backwards yeah maybe yeah that was looking forward next time i think it's just you know i think that's a one-time thing and we and we just let it go so you just you knew like it was like a sixth sense you're like this guy's about to come here i got this keep it honest i spun uh had a really good spin move, and I was going to spin again.

Speaker 5 And I realized that if you break down the clip, you can see me. I see him.
And I'm like, oh, he's not going for the spin. So I kind of just let my body take over and I jumped.

Speaker 5 And I just really timed it up pretty well.

Speaker 1 One of the sickest players. It was insane.
A bad example for the youngsters out there, though.

Speaker 5 I was thinking, yeah, it is. But like, I talk to all my friends all the time.
They don't agree with me with this one. But like.
Nope, I'm not saying I'm Michael Jordan by anyway.

Speaker 5 But like when Michael Jordan jumped from the free throw line like in 84 or whatever it was, like like that was probably one of the craziest things people seen.

Speaker 5 Now Zach Levine is each batting from the free throw line. So it's like, if I'm able to jump over someone backwards right now in like 20, 15, 30 years, like what are these kids?

Speaker 5 Like, because if you go to, I go to my nephew's 707 tournaments, flat tournaments, and like these kids are eight years old.

Speaker 5 They look like they're 12 and 15 already. So it's like in 20, 30 years, like what move? Like we think that move is crazy.
Like what is the next move someone's going to be able to do?

Speaker 5 And like it's it's going to be a scary thing to see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, like, gymnastics. Like, Simone Biles doing like backflips and shit.
Yeah. Twists.
Backflips. I think backflips are kind of like normal and gymnastics.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, but I'm saying, like, incorporating that into like football. Oh, you got to do it.
Like, being able to do backflips and shit.

Speaker 1 Listen, you won't. You won't do it.

Speaker 1 He's a commanders fan, so he's trying to get

Speaker 1 it. Yeah, he's trying to get after three

Speaker 1 losses in the broad. I can see it.

Speaker 5 I don't even do it. I get it.
I get it.

Speaker 1 Nah, backflip over.

Speaker 1 I don't even do backflips.

Speaker 5 I don't even do backflips like normal.

Speaker 5 I know guys, like, like, oh, a big play, like, they like to do the cartwheel until a backflip. Like, that's not my thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What, do you listen to any of the haters? Like, going, obviously, there are none now because you had 2,000 yards, but going into this season,

Speaker 1 did any of that make it through? Like, where it's like, people are like, oh, yeah, Saquon's overrated. And, like, this is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you have to. I think when athletes get up here, we say that we don't see any of that stuff.
Like, it's that's just a lie. Like, we see all of it.

Speaker 5 Sometimes you make stuff up in your head to help fuel you.

Speaker 5 Like a big thing for me is, you know, I see that I'm not going to be good next year because I was too good the year before.

Speaker 5 And running backs get older or how many touches. Like you see that stuff.

Speaker 5 And it's okay. It's okay to see that.
It's okay to, you know, put that in the back of your mind. But when you go out there and you play the game that you love, that can't be the reason behind it.

Speaker 5 I fell to that before. And I think that's a big reason why.
I was unsuccessful and I had injuries

Speaker 5 because I was going out there trying to prove a point rather than going out there and playing a game that I love. And

Speaker 5 I get paid a lot of money to play a children's game. So you got to keep that mindset and keep the main thing that matters the most and the love and your team.
But it's okay to see that stuff.

Speaker 5 And when you train and be like, okay, this is what you think.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm going to show you this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we had a guy, the dumbest guy we got. I got the exact quote here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he pretends he's a fantasy football expert. He doesn't know shit.
So this guy said, do not draft in all caps. Saquon Barkley in fantasy.

Speaker 1 ADP, average draft position, number 10. Overall is crazy.
He's only rushed for 1,005 plus yards one time

Speaker 1 in four of the last five years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 1,005. 1,005 years ago.
Everyone knows 1,005 is the benchmark. That's the mark that you should get for.
Gotcha. He hasn't had 340-plus receiving yards since 2019.

Speaker 1 Blame the Giants all you want, but when do we admit he's just not a great player? That was this year? Oh, that was this year. He was before this season.

Speaker 1 1,005 yards only had done it once. Oh, he's an idiot.
Yeah, he's a moron.

Speaker 1 Hey, you know what?

Speaker 5 That's the that's why, you know, and because it's here right now, you got to be careful what you put out on the internet because the internet is forever.

Speaker 1 But listen, this was actually like, it actually was great because we, I think I gave him shit. I think I tweeted every time you had a touchdown, I tweeted at him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he would be sitting right in front of me and I would just tweet at him being like,

Speaker 5 he's like part of like that fantasy stuff, right?

Speaker 1 He thinks he is.

Speaker 5 So it's like, how, if I'm a guy and I'm following you and trying to take your advice over fantasy and then you go out there and say that, you kind of lose credit.

Speaker 1 It's a reputation killer. Exactly.
Like, no one should ever listen to Stephen Che. You should say that.
No one should listen to Stephen Che ever again.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no one should listen to Stephen Chase ever again. Yeah, no, yes.

Speaker 1 That's facts. No, in all seriousness, it's just, you gotta, I think, right, and like, this is what I want to do when I'm done with football.

Speaker 5 I want to get on this side of it.

Speaker 5 But I think sometimes you see guys up there and they have to say stuff that's going to get clickbait.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Even if they don't really believe it. Like you see stuff going on, like what they say about Nick Siriani or stuff they say about Jalen now, of myself.
But like it's hot.

Speaker 5 Like we're the hottest team in sports right now. We just want to ask you for it.

Speaker 5 And when you mention our names and you say something negative about it, it's going to get views even going into last year.

Speaker 5 So I think a lot of these guys just say some stuff that they don't actually believe.

Speaker 1 So here's the problem. I agree with everything you just said.
The guy we're talking about, Stephen Che, he actually is that dumb that he believed it.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he actually believed it.

Speaker 1 thought you were overrated and not very good in a thousand and five yards. Again, the most important benchmark in all of this.

Speaker 1 The problem is, he looks smart, so I think people tend to believe him because he wears glasses. So he's like, okay, I got to trust this guy.
He's a nerd. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he's a dumb nerd, which is a problem. That's where you're running the problems.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Numbers lie.

Speaker 5 What's the saying? Men's lie, women's lie. Numbers don't.
Yeah. I used to believe that, but that's not true.
The numbers don't always tell you what it is. And,

Speaker 5 you know, the career I had in New York, obviously we weren't great we weren't i want i wasn't on great teams and i had a lot of injuries and you know adversity there but sometimes just because a guy like you have next year you have a guy who rushes or catches 1500 yards and a guy who catches for 1200 yards like that doesn't mean that guy is automatically better everyone opportunity everyone situation is completely different so that's why we need to stay away from you know the numbers is good but i think it's taking over especially our sport um and it just go by watching film and film doesn't lie um All right, I got a random question that I just found this from 2020.

Speaker 1 You were asked, I don't know what interview it was, what are your favorite football or sports podcasts to listen to and why? And you said, I love pardon my take.

Speaker 1 Anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides, and I enjoy the arguing. Did someone feed you that, or did you actually listen to the show?

Speaker 5 I think someone fed me that.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, I was gonna say, I was like, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, someone definitely fed you that.

Speaker 1 Because, like, anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides. It's like, that's not, we're just idiots.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say, listen, far from idiots.

Speaker 5 I think it's just like, it's a beautiful, it's a beautiful thing because you guys are just who you are. It's just authentic to who you are.
You have fun with it.

Speaker 1 It made us feel good. You really,

Speaker 1 we believed in it for a while. I can say that now.
I can say that confidently now.

Speaker 5 I'm a big fan of you guys.

Speaker 1 When I read it, I was like, I don't think anybody would ever say that about our show. Yeah, right.
It was like, you like saying I love part of my take.

Speaker 1 That's where I was like, oh shit, Saquon loves part. And then when I got to the second sentence, I was like, he's not listening.
We could just go.

Speaker 5 We can go, it was 2020. That's COVID year.

Speaker 1 We can blame him on COVID. Yeah.
We got it on COVID. He had COVID brain.
He said that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. Oh, Kenny, yeah, it was.
It was a Spotify interview, and they were like, that would be nice if you said a few things about PMT.

Speaker 1 Well, listen, we're just going to, I think we have it printed out in our studio, so we're not going to take that down. You would actually.

Speaker 1 You would probably listen to the tennis podcast, and you were like, these guys are awesome. You got that confused with us.
It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 If you listen to our story, you'd just be like, why are these four assholes making fun of their producer for two hours? Yeah. That's the takeaway from our story.
It's just so funny.

Speaker 1 Anytime you get different opinions, I like to hear both sides. Like, we have the same basic opinions on everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we've been wrong a lot.

Speaker 1 But I mean, you're talking about getting into the next phase of your career and you want to do, you said like something on the other side, whether that's commentary or whatever.

Speaker 1 The trick is, though, like you have to figure out a way to deliver your authentic thoughts in an entertaining way.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people get screwed up with with that and they're just like, I'm just going to say something that's going to get people riled up. And that's the easy way to get there.

Speaker 1 But have you thought about what that next step looks for? Yeah, is that going to be something that you're going to pursue more while you're playing or are you going to wait until afterwards?

Speaker 5 I always think it's tough, right? If you do it while you're playing,

Speaker 5 it's so tough, especially in the markets that I've played in. New York and Philly.

Speaker 5 It's good when you rush for 2,000 yards and after games, it's easy to put a mic in front of you and say this and say that. But if you, you know, we played, what was it, Monday night or Sunday night?

Speaker 5 We played the Falcons and I had a big drop. You know, it's not as easy to go on in front of a camera and talk about that game or what's going on during the world.

Speaker 5 No, my, the best way I put it, I can put it is Michael Strahan. Like, he is literally, I just want to look at him and follow everything that he did.

Speaker 5 And he got involved a little bit into this world while he was playing. But I'm probably going to focus a little bit more when I'm done playing.

Speaker 5 You only get this, you know, i'm in year eight right now it's even crazy to say that and whether it's another eight years another two years you never know so i'm gonna try to capitalize on this as much as i can stay focused on this as much as i can and opportunities come here and there i'll take it but when i'm done being more so of like i want to have the the goofball side and be able to be on stuff like this and show my personality that i also want to talk about stuff that's going on in the world um and uh and and just really have a mixture of both.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Podcast P, he got himself in one of those situations here in Philly. He was like, I'm going to stop the podcast right now because things aren't going so well.

Speaker 1 But then the numbers came out and he was better at basketball while he was podcasting. Maybe you could be a better running back if you were podcasting.

Speaker 5 I don't think

Speaker 5 the podcast had anything to do with that. You don't think so?

Speaker 1 I disagree. What we do is some people say is harder than playing in the NFL.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying it's easy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying, and I think it's, I don't think it's easy, and I think it would be harder playing and doing this at the same time. Yeah.
Reason why he probably.

Speaker 1 That's why we don't play in the NFL. Especially we don't want to rob the podcast game.
Yeah, I feel you.

Speaker 5 I think about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a distraction. That'd be a distraction in our lives.
We actually were asked to be on the Madden cover. We said no.

Speaker 5 See, I think you guys got to be the first people to say no. Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 It makes sense.

Speaker 5 It took too long for me to get

Speaker 5 requested for it. Yeah.
And I do remember they're like, we're tending to go somewhere else. So

Speaker 5 it all come together. Yeah, we could do it.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, you make up quotes and you love pardon my take. We can make up quotes saying we were the Madden cover.

Speaker 1 What does it matter? All right, well, Saquon. This has been awesome.
I got one last question.

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Speaker 1 All right, quick rapid that was great. Thank you.
Yeah, that's that's podcast. That's harder than jumping over somebody back.
Yeah, I could close my eyes and do that. I felt the read coming.

Speaker 1 I saw it out of the corner of my eye. Let it happen.

Speaker 1 It took over. All right, rapid fire.

Speaker 1 Do you still squat?

Speaker 5 I do still.

Speaker 1 What's your max?

Speaker 5 Right now, I don't know, but I mean, if I had to go to competition, I'd probably do 650, 700.

Speaker 1 What's your absolute max that you've ever done?

Speaker 5 Probably 700.

Speaker 1 Whew, That's crazy.

Speaker 5 But I think I'm better like a one rep max guy. So like, especially when they do the competition, you can wrap your knees and stuff.
If I'm going against somebody, it'll probably be higher than 700.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 1 Favorite game you played in at Penn State?

Speaker 5 Penn State versus Michigan whiteout 2017, my junior year.

Speaker 1 Okay. I thought you were going to maybe say the Iowa game because that was a crazy game.

Speaker 5 It was a great game, but like

Speaker 5 the environment, even though Iowa environment is great, it has has nothing on a whiteout game. And like, I scored a touchdown, I think I scored like in the second, third play.

Speaker 5 And I remember, like, I like did my little thing and I went to the end zone, and I like just looked up, and all you see is like a sea of white, and everyone yelling. It almost like

Speaker 5 words can't describe how my body felt in that moment.

Speaker 1 It was, it was insane. Yeah, the whiteout, they got it, they got to do it for bigger games.
Last year, I think it was like Minnesota at noon. Yeah, gotta do Oregon this year, yeah, yeah, Oregon.

Speaker 1 All right, last one. Uh,

Speaker 1 will you guarantee over a thousand five yards this year?

Speaker 5 Well, I never guaranteed anything.

Speaker 5 I feel like I can guarantee that if God keeps me healthy, that over will get smashed. Okay.

Speaker 1 You got to get that. The 1,005.
The 1.005K Club. Yeah.
Everyone talks about it. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 5 That's like the, now that's like the new dress holder, I guess, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or it's like, yeah, getting 500 home runs in the Hall of Fame in baseball, you get 1.005K, then that's a great season.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because on that topic, I am a big believer. I was talking about this the other day.
I think to get in the Hall of Fame for NFL, they need to have something like that.

Speaker 5 It should be like a set requirement. A threshold of what you need for certain positions to get into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 It means 2005. Well, actually, we shouldn't do that for you because you've only done it twice in your entire career, which is crazy.
Yeah, it's kind of

Speaker 1 stink when you put it in that respect. Bad ball, it's a bad player all around.
Oh, all right. Well, Saquon, congrats on Madden.
We're excited to play the game and best of luck this year.

Speaker 1 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 5 Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1 And now here's Cam Jergens and Lane Johnson.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests, very, very special guests, Super Bowl champs. It is Grit Week presented by Hey Dude.
It is Lane Johnson, Cam Jergens. Boys, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 First question of Grit Week, every single interview. What does the word grit mean to you?

Speaker 1 It's another word for toughness. Okay.

Speaker 1 Perseverance. Perseverance, Cam.
Just dealing with it, whatever you got.

Speaker 1 Terrible hot day yesterday. Just losing so many pounds.
Want to get home to a nice AC, get home, AC, broke.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was a gritty night. That's great.
You do. Grit.

Speaker 1 Sweat.

Speaker 1 Wait, Wait, how many... Complain?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's actually.

Speaker 1 It is part of grit.

Speaker 1 The more grit you have, sometimes you just have to complain your way through it. But you still do it, right? Yeah.
You do it. You do it, but you can be pissed off about it.

Speaker 1 Wait, how many pounds do you lose in a training camp practice?

Speaker 1 11 yesterday. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 That's a good diet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How quickly do you put that back on? Sometimes you don't. No, I mean, you just have to be conscious.
You have to get a lot of salt in. So just

Speaker 1 get an IV. You can get in real quick.
Yeah. How's the back feeling? Good.
Good. Good.
I would say that was grit. So the NFC championship game,

Speaker 1 you don't start. You go in the second half.

Speaker 1 On a scale of one to 10, how bad was the pain when you're going back into the game? It was high, but at that point, you're just thinking about...

Speaker 1 being gritty and not worrying about pain and just be like, all right, this is a mental thing, not a physical thing. You know, pain is more mental than physical.

Speaker 1 At a point, you know, the pain subsides and you just don't feel it. Yeah.
And then it's just numb, and you're like, is this better or worse?

Speaker 1 Probably better. That week leading up to the game, did you see that? He was on the Bosu ball all practice.
Yeah. Practice.
You see him over there just bobbing up and down.

Speaker 1 When he was going back in, though, from your perspective, Lane, were you, was there, did you have a conversation with him? Like, hey, like, are you, are you good? Like, is this.

Speaker 1 Because you know, he's like very, very injured, but, but Landon gets injured. So, did you guys have a conversation as like an offensive line before he comes back in?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's like if it's a nerve thing, like a disc, you know, hitting a nerve and you can't do it, which is one thing, and then it's another one where it's a pain that's tolerable.

Speaker 1 So, you know, he's played a lot of football, so I kind of leave it up to him. If he's good to go, we're going to rock with him.

Speaker 1 If he's not, we're still going to rock with him and, you know, get prepared for when he returns. Yeah.
So that week leading up to, did you just think like there's no chance I can go?

Speaker 1 I mean, every single day, I'm just like, all right, yeah, I'm going to try to do my best to get ready and play. And every day it's just like,

Speaker 1 wake up, I don't know about this. And then you just kind of work through it.
It's a lot of self-doubt. Wait, what was the actual injury? Was it a nerve thing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just had a, you know, a herniated disc, and then it broke off, got wrapped around my nerves. So it's just

Speaker 1 messing up my leg. Yeah, I've had one of those, and I just laid on the floor for two days.
Kind of goes down your leg. Yeah, and I told my wife,

Speaker 1 I was like, just shoot me right now. It's like, if I had a gun, shoot me.
You played in the NFC championship game. I barely podcasted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had one. You did.
I did. They came over to my house and we podcasted.
I was just laying on the ground. I've had one for the last month or so.

Speaker 1 I canceled a vacation, which is, I think that's kind of gritty, right? Being like, I don't need to take this time off. I'm going to just stay here and work on my body.

Speaker 1 And then I tried to play golf through it, and that was even too much. I can't imagine like actually having to run and move around and shove people with it.

Speaker 1 I think it'd be gritty going on vacation and just complaining and hating vacation. Yeah.
Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
The worst vacation of all time. That is actually a very gritty thing to do.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But yeah, good to see that you're healthy, that you're feeling good.
How's camp been? It's been good. Entertaining.
Hot. Yesterday was pretty hot.

Speaker 1 The first few days was actually nice, like condition test. And then yesterday was kind of wake-up call outside.
So how is it different?

Speaker 1 Obviously, Cam, this is the first time you're coming to a camp after winning a Super Bowl lane. You're second time.

Speaker 1 Is it a different vibe being champions and like having to kind of you have to like start fresh, you know, and it's like what we did last year doesn't matter for this year. Is it hard to get over that?

Speaker 1 People treat you different for what you accomplish, but I think when you look at why you accomplish what you accomplish, it's because of your routine and structure.

Speaker 1 So if all this praise or whatever you're getting is causing you to change those habits, then yeah, probably things are going to be different in the prompt the next year, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like you guys have a line coach that won't let you get too high off that, right?

Speaker 1 No. I don't know.
I don't know what gets him happy. Maybe him fishing on a jet ski on his off day gets him happy.
But other than that,

Speaker 1 he's pretty gritty.

Speaker 1 yeah it's just you know when you get back into camp it's just it's like locking yourself in a room and just getting football non-stop 24-7 you're just so focused on you don't know what day it is today you know you don't know what yesterday or tomorrow is you're just like all right long day doing a day long day full days after you guys talking about it i can just imagine going home to no air conditioning is like that's the worst into that day possible right yeah it's like take a cold shower And it's just, you know, you're learning everything you're going to need for the whole year, all wrapped up in one month of just like brutal, you know, hellish camp, you know, or fall camp.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of plays, too. So, you know, you're not necessarily going to have all these plays in per week, it changes, but install everything all at once.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, it's a lot all at one time.

Speaker 1 I would love to see if like the

Speaker 1 working man and everybody out there in the real world just like everybody had a fall camp, you know, a month.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 How much work's getting done? Podcasting shape. Did you guys follow along when they were voting on the tush push? Were you like actually tuned in or just like, hey, whatever happens, happens.

Speaker 1 Well, I knew that like there was a deadline for the vote, and I was, yeah, I was, I was waiting. I was like, it's a goner.

Speaker 1 No, I wasn't tuned in. I feel like they voted on it like three times.
It's like every month. They're like, they're voting on it again.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, I think the vote like went down where it was the majority of teams that voted to ban it were your opponents this year.

Speaker 1 So they're like trying to basically get it out because they know they have to play you guys. Hey, I wanted Tom Brady, the one that played Gronkowski out, but hey, they kept doing it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was that weird hearing the owner describe maybe the suckiest play for you guys as being like a wet dream? It was interesting.

Speaker 1 That was hilarious. That was hilarious.
I gave him a fist bump next time I saw him.

Speaker 1 That was funny. Yeah, I mean, because it's an awesome play, but for the offensive line, it's probably not the most fun play to do.
No. No, and like the worst part is when you're running

Speaker 1 the play and it's like fourth down or third down or whatever and you're running it, and then you just get piled on top, and you're just down there, you don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, you're getting yelled at to get up out of the pile. It's like, hey, get up, get up, we got to run another play.
I'm like, oh, so we got the first down, or like, what?

Speaker 1 Like, kind of don't know for like, seems like two

Speaker 1 refs moving bodies out. I don't know what ball he moved.
He out. Why have Frankie Louvre jumping on your back a couple times? Yeah.
Yeah. That wasn't fun.
But I like that term.

Speaker 1 They're in a bad spot because if they come off late and late to the party, you know, it's not good, but they're trying to time it. So it's

Speaker 1 a whole issue. Cam, I was reading a story about when you got drafted.
How did you find out that you got drafted?

Speaker 1 I got a call, but like it was

Speaker 1 during the draft day, there was like a severe storm that just rolled in in Nebraska. We're in Tornado Alley.
You know, Lane knows about that from Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 And you're just like, tornado comes or whatever. And there was during draft.
Dude, yeah, the TV kept going out. We kept going from upstairs to downstairs, like figuring out what TV is going on.

Speaker 1 We're trying to get on our phone. Like,

Speaker 1 oh, it was chaotic. And I finally got a call and like our TV was way off.
And I finally got a call and got drafted. I was fired up.

Speaker 1 You guys were trying to get me to get on a Zoom call with all the media. And I'm like, guys, I got nothing out here.

Speaker 1 I can't do no interviews right now. I mean, being drafted.
I'm in the basement about to go crawl under a freaking pool table. Yeah, it's a great origin story, though.

Speaker 1 Like, I got drafted during a tornado. It's like, yeah, that's a hit of a draft.
How he knew instantly. He's like, yep, that guy's going to be off.
It feels like that anyway, the whole process does.

Speaker 1 You don't know where you're going to go. It's like a tornado all over again.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got a question about Nebraska. Scott Frost, I thought that was going to work.
I think everybody thought it was going to work.

Speaker 1 That really wasn't a

Speaker 1 more of a statement. But yeah, I really thought it was going to work.
That was your, so he was, was his second year through his fifth year you were there.

Speaker 1 It felt like you guys were about to turn the corner a bunch of times and it just never happened. Yeah, you know, I feel like every game, we just found ways to lose games.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, we had good players and we played really well, but then it's just like, we just found ways to lose it. And we were really good at that.

Speaker 1 You know, I never made a bowl game in college and then I get to the league and three years in, we super bowls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, were you part of the team that there was that one year where you guys lost by like three points every single game? Yeah, yeah, it was like seven or eight losses within like. Yeah, it was insane.

Speaker 1 It was like, it was like Nebraska's looking good today. And then the fourth quarter would come around and something insane would happen.
You're like, well, there's the game.

Speaker 1 Not all losses are the same. Yeah.
Yeah. Do you think maybe Rayola should start dressing up like Jalen Hurts instead?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, do something, you know, win, I guess.
Yeah. They're both winners.
They're both winners. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All we need to do is win. And, you know, they made the first bowl game in several years.
So I was happy to see that. So this year, playoffs are bust.
So your teammate, Ty Johnson,

Speaker 1 he's a Nebraska guy, too, right?

Speaker 1 Does he actually own a camel? Is that true? I think it is. I mean, he went to Nebraska, but he's an Arizona guy.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's not camels in either, but go on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I've really been out in Arizona.

Speaker 1 They probably got camels.

Speaker 1 They got Camelback Mountain out there. I know that because I trained out there.

Speaker 1 We got camels. We got cattle.
Yeah. I don't know.
Smoking camels.

Speaker 1 I always wonder this, the Super Bowl, obviously, Lane, we talked to you that week right before. I think we saw you at the the hotel cam.
What point in the Super Bowl victory were you like, is it?

Speaker 1 It's over. Because it was.
Touchdown to Devontae. So what was that score? Was that 34? I think it was that touchdown of Devontae where it went 34 to whatever.
Six, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then you're like, oh, that's a little bit more points. And the Patriots or the Falcons had that year.
Maybe they can't. Yeah.
Yeah. I did the math and I was like, they can't come back.

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, like the Super Bowls, you know, when we were growing up in the 90s, there were always blowouts, but the last, you know, 20 years have been really competitive.

Speaker 1 And then you have a game like that. It feels like the whole second half, you guys almost are like, get to party because you're like, we're in the Super Bowl, and it's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot different than the other ones we were in, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And shout out Kenny for throwing a pass because I had that bet over one and a half or over two and a half players

Speaker 1 to attempt the pass. Yeah, that was huge.
That was huge. Shout out, Kenny.
That is. It's overlooked.
That was a big pass. I did not think you guys were going to pass in that situation.

Speaker 1 You guys, were either of you in the game at that point?

Speaker 1 I don't think I was.

Speaker 1 No, that's got to to be so awesome it should be on the sideline for like just being like let this quarter take forever because we just celebrate celebrate yeah I mean it was seems like every game I mean the last Super Bowls are just

Speaker 1 you know back and forth neck and neck and yeah we're not used to being in those situations I guess

Speaker 1 but it was cool yeah do you think Jalen enjoyed the Super Bowl because I feel like a lot of his quotes he's already he's going heavy on turning the page do you think he actually enjoyed winning the super bowl

Speaker 1 so I had seen him him put on his ring yet.

Speaker 1 Those rings are sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you guys hit the button for the for the Eagle flag to come? Or

Speaker 1 the slaughter? Yeah, when I'm feeling really good, I'll press the button. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Does it make it, does it make your old Super Bowl feel like less important because the ring is so much bigger on this new one? Yeah, the feelings got hurt that night.

Speaker 1 You guys put hydraulics in the new ring. It's crazy.
Yeah, a lot bigger. Just, yeah, they...
It was huge. So after you guys win, what was it like? Did you celebrate in New Orleans? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was a casino right across the street. Yeah.
And all week we couldn't go because you're not supposed to go to casinos

Speaker 1 on a road trip.

Speaker 1 But after the game, season's over, we can go to the casino. And obviously, most of the team was over there.
So we all celebrated again.

Speaker 1 I remember seeing Big X the Plug, Jeff Ross, just a lot of different moving parts at that celebration. I was just, well, he's here.
He's here. So that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Did you guys watch the halftime show? No, no. You didn't go back and watch it? No.

Speaker 1 That was a wild halftime show. Yeah.
It was wild. Yeah, I mean, who was it a couple years ago? Was it the kicker for the Bengals that McCarron?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, no, no, no Bengals.
McPherson. McPherson.

Speaker 1 He went out a halftime and watched it. Yeah, halftime.

Speaker 1 I imagine that kickers can probably get away with doing something like that, but at the same time, you'd probably like everybody to be.

Speaker 5 in the lobby.

Speaker 1 It's like offense, like we usually have

Speaker 1 our board meeting right before we go out. So everybody's there in their chair.
So somebody's missing. It's like, where the hell is he at? Did you guys make any adjustments?

Speaker 1 Or was it just like, hey, you guys are kicking ass. Just continue to beat the shit out of him.

Speaker 1 I mean, it wasn't, like I said, it wasn't that moment didn't sink in until like the Devontae catch, but it was really full go till then, just because losing that thing the first time to him by three, whatever, that emotion was stronger than winning the thing like we did.

Speaker 1 I mean, you'll never forget that loss like that. It was terrible.
Better turf this time. Yeah, I mean, the actual turf.
Yeah. No, was it grass? I can't remember.
Was it turf? No, it was turf. Turf.

Speaker 1 Turf. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they couldn't mess with it.

Speaker 1 What week this season do you think Nick Siriani would be on the hot seat?

Speaker 1 You never know with this fan base. Yeah, Max is probably thinking like week four or five.
You start two and two. He's going to be like, got to fire the guy.
Slow first quarter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Usually it's pretty hot. Like it's the takes are like that until you get to November and it kind of dies down.
Yeah. Uh-huh.
Yeah. That happened last year and that's when you know we took off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You guys, it is kind of crazy when you look back because you guys were what two and two to start the season.

Speaker 1 It's kind of some questions lingering from the previous year and was it that game in new orleans when you when uh the big play at the end of the game who was uh dallas goddard yeah and it feels like from that point on you guys were just dominating teams yeah yeah could you feel that you're like everything yeah it just takes a little bit to like find you know a few weeks you get to do different different things offensively and you see kind of what clicks and kind of what a rhythm should be and then yeah at that point it started It started becoming consistent.

Speaker 1 Lane, do you get veteran days off during camp? I haven't yet. Okay.

Speaker 1 Will you get them hopefully do do the other guys cam you can just pretend he's not here is he a pussy for taking those days off uh no okay but but you you definitely look at a little side eye i feel if i take those days off i'll you know get some bad looks it's like being at the line at disney world you got the fast pass and

Speaker 1 i waited five hours here

Speaker 1 yeah exactly so it's it is it's a weird feeling in general you've probably earned it but the mentality that got you to a place that earns it is like i don't want to take any days yeah but it's just a you know would i rather not practice and take all these looks from all my teammates?

Speaker 1 Why does he do that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe you're done. I'm getting rested.
Deline plays really good. Jalen puts up great stats in practice.

Speaker 1 I know you're a big fan of keeping stats during training camp and evaluating players that way. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think it's hilarious people coming out like stats.

Speaker 1 We're just practicing to get better. Yeah, you don't know what you're doing to interception slow.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 exactly. They don't know that.

Speaker 1 Maybe they're just trying to draw attention to that away from the Epstein thing with the passes. He was 7 for 11 in this training camp.
They're not focused on the Epstein stuff.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 I did have a moment the other day where I'm starting to maybe at 40 years old, getting mature because I saw it was like Bears interception or don't convert fourth and 15 in training camp.

Speaker 1 And I was like, fuck. I was like, wait a second.
Why am I upset? But you do.

Speaker 1 There's nothing to talk about right now. So it's like the offense is humming or the defense is dominating.
Yeah, but yeah, the anticipation is building.

Speaker 1 And hey, it's just, you got to, it's got to get out somehow. Talk about it.
What was it last summer?

Speaker 1 Was it that Jalen Hurts was throwing too many interceptions or that he wasn't throwing enough interceptions? There was an interception for like so many days. There was a non-interception streak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a problem. That was a big problem.
Yeah, exactly. Well, you're taking risks.

Speaker 1 Drive the ball downfield.

Speaker 1 That's why we hit the interception drill early. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, Cam, when you, before you moved to center, you were playing next to Lane. What was it like playing next to like a Hall of Famer and being like, this guy is just so good at everything?

Speaker 1 And like, were you just confident that no matter what, he's got you every single time? We're probably asking, what's the play about 80% of the time?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it was mostly like, here's the play, hear the call, and then Lane's like, what do we got?

Speaker 1 He's usually, what's the snap count? But it was

Speaker 1 great because we, you know, when you're playing next to somebody for so long, you just formulate your own language with each other. So we could just say a lot with very little words.

Speaker 1 Like, I could, you'd be like, oh, and I'll be like, hmm, yeah.

Speaker 1 Nod,

Speaker 1 nod, nice. Kind of, yeah.

Speaker 1 Lane, I saw that obviously you got the 99 in the Madden rating. Congrats.

Speaker 1 What an honor that is. But they only had you as a 93 on pass block finesse.
What's up with that? Pass block finesse? I guess my first question is, what is pass block finesse?

Speaker 1 I know there's finesse in the run game, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 I guess, I don't know. I don't know what.
That's like looking good. Yeah.
Well, finesse is like, means you're getting the job done, but in like a

Speaker 1 pussy,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 I've had pussy moments where I've got bull rush. So maybe it's from that.
I don't know. Do you think about those pussy moments? Yes.
I mean, that's all coaches wants to talk about.

Speaker 1 You know, they don't talk about the good stuff. It's only, ah, I saw you stumble there in your battle there.
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 Is there one that like sticks out to you from your career that you find yourself just no matter the accolades that get put on you, the Super Bowls you win, you're like, that guy really bitched me that one time.

Speaker 1 Kerrigan had some, like my first couple years in the league. There was, I know, there was a strip sack on Sanchez one of those years when I was 15.
I was like, this motherfucker here.

Speaker 1 And now I still get to see him on the sidelines with Washington coaching. So I can't get, this guy can't leave the damn field.
He's there every time, you know, we play him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kim, but definitely Kerrigan. Yeah.
Kim, who's the hardest guy that you had to block last year? Dexter Lawrence. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is it about him? Just the size? I mean,

Speaker 1 size, strength. You know what's coming, and he still can't.
he's just he plays with such good leverage you know he's just so wide

Speaker 1 swat team door just hitting you it's what it feels like just damn yeah big ass over and over who's got the best hands oh um what do you mean for receivers no no the best hands like on a defensive line that you have to go up against oh man you i mean when fletch was here fletch had some strong hands yeah can you feel it like the difference between yeah there's game strength and there's weight room strength and there's a difference yeah yeah there's ability.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some guys are strong in movements, but they're not able to express it like on the football field.

Speaker 1 And there's some guys that aren't very strong in weight room, but they can, you know, farm strong. So it's, you can see it all, really.
Farm strong. You guys are farm strong, right?

Speaker 1 Are you guys city bulls? He's more. Yeah, I got a little bit of city slicker strength than me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You were doing pass block sets against bulls. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a great video. My dad just put me out there.

Speaker 1 That was such a funny video. That's how I learned.
And then people are like, yeah, this is what he does. This is how he trains.
Like in Rocky going up to like Siberia.

Speaker 1 siberia uh yeah no that that was an all-time funny video because i think i feel like the bull knew that he was doing the pass set

Speaker 1 yeah he was a little skittish a little scared yeah

Speaker 1 we got to get some more bulls yeah how's how's the jerky business going it's going good yeah it's going good you know um

Speaker 1 got some flavors uh five flavors i honestly it's my favorite jerky in the world. I love it and it's something I enjoy doing.

Speaker 1 You know, I grew up with my dad going deer hunting and making deer jerky and all sorts of that. So now to have a jerky company, pretty cool, pretty gritty.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, just trying to sell some. We got some good stuff in the works.
We're excited for the season. Yeah.
What flavors are we cooking with now? My favorite is mango habanero.

Speaker 1 Cracked pepper is really good.

Speaker 1 And then you got your original, your teriyaki, and we got a hot honey.

Speaker 1 Are you giving it free to the rest of the guys?

Speaker 1 We don't have a ton in stock right now.

Speaker 1 Right when you get it in there, it just gets eaten right away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, especially now with all the numbers, you got a lot of guys in the room, so yeah, but that's really you get the rookies in there, and rookies are supposed to supply the snack.

Speaker 1 So, I'm going to start having the rookies buy my jerky for the room. That's smart.
So, I'm going to tell them that today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is smart. Back in your pocket.

Speaker 1 Is it tough at training camp? Like, obviously, there's you know, starts with 90 guys, and you know, there's some guys they're not going to be there.

Speaker 1 Is it tough, like, not getting too close or forming relationships with guys being like, you might get cut? Like, how does that work?

Speaker 1 We just, I don't know how it works. We just go to lunch and dinner, and then you act like it's all normal.
And then

Speaker 1 one day there's some guys don't come to breakfast the next morning. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or you like, you see somebody like lift and then they get done with the workout, and all of a sudden you're getting ready for practice. He's his locker's cleared out.

Speaker 1 You'll see the Grim Reaper coming around his clipboard and his glasses.

Speaker 1 That's got to be weird, but that's probably smart to like not think about it too much because thinking about it too much is get too attached to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. yeah.

Speaker 1 You guys just usually don't get a chance to say bye to each other. Do they ever

Speaker 1 it's not even just that? It's like even like the Super Bowl teams, like so many teams get picked up in free agency.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some guys don't come back to the ring ceremony, coaches disappear, it's just everybody disperses. Yeah, year to year is so different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people get cut and then get brought back and then cut and brought back. So, like, you can say goodbye, but you might see them next week.
Right. You don't want the double goodbye.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's awkward as fuck.

Speaker 1 Even like in a position you guys are at where your jobs are safe, like if Howie says, hey, I I want to talk to you, or you're like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Like, you never know. Yeah, you never know.
Do you ever talk to Howie? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's he like? He seems like a sharp guy. Sharp.
He uh, I mean, he's pretty busy in the weight room now. I just saw him in there.
Oh, shit. He's getting lifted.
Okay, we'll have to

Speaker 1 look big. Yeah, he's been pretty consistent in the past few years.
All right. Okay.
All right. This has been awesome, guys.
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Uh, what did what did Saquon get you guys for a present last year?

Speaker 1 And was it good? I mean, which just pretend he's not in the room right now. Multiple, yeah.
What do you get, you guys, though, for 2K? 2K, uh, we got a Rolex. Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Because you guys were just saying that he owes everything to you guys. Yeah, based on that.
Everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So probably should have been more than a Rolex, right?

Speaker 1 We can't tell time good enough as it is.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thank you, boys.
This was awesome. Best of luck this year.
Appreciate you guys stopping by. Yes, sir.
Thanks for having us. And, yeah.
Happy Grit Week. Yeah.
Happy Grit Week.

Speaker 1 You're honored. Yeah.
Scott Frost.

Speaker 1 Still thought that would work.

Speaker 1 Okay. Great show, boys.
Thanks to our friends at the Eagles for giving us a first-class day.

Speaker 1 We brought Big Dom.

Speaker 1 How many cannolis? Brought him like...

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 we bought two dozen cannolis at the last time. And then it was very funny.

Speaker 1 and then we might have eaten a dozen we ate twelve no we ate ten of them no and then we didn't want to give them a second box with only two cannolis in it because that's rude well so then we had to eat the other two we're also missing part of the story where we went to uh in south philly we went to a bakery at like 10 in the morning uh to get cannolis and then uh max you came back in the car which was a great move because it was incredible but it was like two full pizzas

Speaker 2 that was that was mostly security mike's doing yeah he was.

Speaker 1 Those were so good.

Speaker 1 We were just stuffing our face with cheese steak pizza at like 10:30 in the morning and then washing it down with Big Dom's cannolis.

Speaker 1 So I tried to take my wallet out to pay for all this stuff because the cheesesteak pizza was incredible. And Mike physically pushed me out of the way.

Speaker 1 And he's like, PFT, you go let me pay for this one. Please, let me pay for this one.
I was like, okay, Mike, you got it. All you.

Speaker 1 And then once memes found out that Mike was paying for it, memes then goes off and orders like another pizza, three more pastries. He's like, yeah, put that on Mike's tab.

Speaker 1 Really ran it up on memes is villain arc. I like it.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the memes heads out there. She said, try the hot honey.
Yeah. And then I tried the hot honey.
By the way, later that day, memes was like, let's get on this plane.

Speaker 1 Let's get on this fucking plane, guys.

Speaker 1 I banned her day by memes.

Speaker 1 I regret even talking about that story. That was a mistake.
People were like, we don't fucking care. Which I actually said at the beginning.
It's the least imaginable story of all time.

Speaker 4 Probably should have happened off air.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we probably shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 That's the beauty of the show. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 4 We just hash it out live.

Speaker 1 Memes, you mentioned hot honey. I was thinking about this this weekend.
When did hot honey become a thing? Because it's basically the best invention.

Speaker 1 Like, I know it's probably been around for a long time, but in terms of popular, like, you order a pizza from anywhere and you can add hot honey. I saw it in stores back in 2009, I think.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And it's so good. But I'm saying, like, on, like, when you order a pizza.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not like

Speaker 1 you knew the band before everyone else. I think it was like COVID.
It's so good.

Speaker 1 What a great addition to everything. Hot honey.

Speaker 1 Fucking love it. I remember seeing it during COVID in my local pizzeria, and then it would just explode.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Should we do numbers? I'm going 60 for my dad's birthday. Oh, you motherfucker.
I'll go three. You're throwing that at us.
It's his birthday. Happy birthday.
I'll go three.

Speaker 1 No, pizza. Oh, you took three?

Speaker 4 I'll take 22. I'll take six.
Give me the twos.

Speaker 1 Twenty-one.

Speaker 5 Eighty-five.

Speaker 5 Forty-four. Reapsack.

Speaker 1 Ninety-nine put.

Speaker 1 Wait, what do you have, Max?

Speaker 1 Six.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll take fifteen.

Speaker 1 Twenty-two.

Speaker 1 If Memes wins this, it should go to his dad.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't count for you.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. It shouldn't count for you.

Speaker 1 14.

Speaker 1 14.

Speaker 1 Look at this.