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On today's part in my take,

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Hank has completed his task.

It is running again.

And we're finishing grit week in Vanny Woodhead.

We have an awesome show for you.

We have one question with a quarterback with Jaden Daniels live from Commander's Training Camp.

We have an awesome interview with Dan Quinn and Debo Samuel.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of

chain restaurants.

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We have a fire fest that's a whole show fire fest.

And then we're going to talk some MOB trade deadline.

Football's back.

Grit week.

Maybe some people asking for a trade.

Who knows?

Micah.

Is Micah?

Yeah.

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Today is Friday, August 1st,

and football is back.

Technically.

Technically, football is back.

But also, literally, football is back because we did have Jim Harbaugh on the sideline actually trying to coach, which was wonderful.

We had Dan Campbell's team looking like maybe

Coordinators Matter.

Mm-hmm.

We had Trey Lance.

Maybe.

Hall of Famer.

Maybe QB1

controversy.

Hall of Famer.

They should have started with Trey Lance.

Jim Harbaugh was that

got me pumped up because

Jim Harbaugh sitting there or being interviewed on the sideline before the game when he

said, football chooses you, you choose football.

I think he was trying to say like, you don't choose football, football chooses you, but he just went choose on both of them.

He was like, yeah.

Football chooses you and you choose football.

But it's more beautiful that way.

Yeah, exactly.

So it's perfect.

It's a mutual relationship where it's like we both want to be in here, but we're in here for life.

Jim Harbaugh knows you can't get divorced from football.

No.

That doesn't happen.

No.

And tonight, listen, we know it's a Hall of Fame game.

It doesn't really matter at all whatsoever, except for the fact that watching Chris and Mike Tarico, seeing the colors on the screen, seeing the helmets, it all just feels like, hey, we're close.

We're right there.

It's the first taste, and it felt good.

And we watched the majority of the game.

I think we just left the gambling cave with like nine minutes left in the fourth quarter.

So we love football.

Football's back.

Also, Vanny Woodhead's back.

Vanny Woodhead's back.

We're chilling in the back of Vanny right now, and it smells the exact same as it did when we got it, what, seven years ago?

Yeah, years ago.

Smells literally the same.

It looks actually a lot better.

The guy cleaned it up really nice.

There's one key piece that's missing right now with Vanny Woodhead, though, and that is

the part that covers up the engine.

So we have the exposed engine inside of the van.

So when we drive it around, I think you could either roast a marshmallow on it or you could get knocked out by carbon monoxide.

I don't know which would happen first.

It's kind of perfect.

It is kind of cool, but a lot of memories in this van.

Yeah, and that was why.

So alluded to it on, I think, Tuesday or Wednesday's show.

We said we had an old friend coming back, and that's why we flew back to Chicago because Vanny Woodhead, it's you can drive Vanny Woodhead now.

We have not probably gotten it to the point where we can drive it on the highway, so we had to come back for it.

But we're like, hey, let's get back in the back of Vanny Woodhead to end Grit Week.

And

it feels great.

Just four guys hanging out in the back of a van.

Yeah.

It does smell the same.

The signatures are still here.

Shout out to Mike,

Grand Rapids guy, help me fix it up.

Let's go.

Help me.

I mean, he fixed it all up.

And he brought us.

I feel good.

I feel good.

We look good.

By the way, we should have shouted out the four Hall of Famers that are going into the Hall of Fame this weekend.

Right.

So

Jared Allen's going in.

Who else do we have going in this weekend?

Anyone got the list?

Oh, who?

Antonio Gates?

Antonio Gates going in.

Former basketball player.

Max?

Anybody else?

You got it, Max?

I'm looking it up.

Anyone else, Max?

Oh, is one of the Sharps going?

Is it Sharp something, Max?

Max.

I'm looking.

Is it Sharp?

Darren Sharper.

Oh.

Darren Sharper?

Isn't he in person?

Oh, wait, you're pro-rape?

Max is pro-rape.

Oh, no, Max.

No.

Darren Sharper.

Are you shouting out Darren Sharper on an actual sports podcast?

Oh, my God.

Do you have any idea what Darren Sharper did, Max?

This is like the worst bit that you guys got going.

But the fact that you fell for it, we were like, hey, we'll just list the four Hall of Famers and pretend we don't know who's going in.

And if we just say sharp, sharper, or something, you're going to say Darren Sharper.

Yeah.

And you fell for it.

We planned this out like 30 minutes.

Maybe our best bit yet.

Yeah, that was an incredible bit.

Job well done.

So many people are laughing.

Yeah.

Yeah, we are.

I'm laughing.

The entire van thinks this is so funny.

There's four people laughing.

I listen for us.

You still don't have it.

No, I don't.

Sterling Sharp.

I started to look it up and then Sterling Sharp.

And then Jared Allen.

Jared Allen.

Sterling Sharp?

Sterling Sharp.

Yeah.

Shannon Sharp's brother.

It's his brother.

When Shannon Sharp got in the Hall of Fame, he said, I'm lucky enough to be in the Hall of Fame, but I'm not even the best football player in my family.

Yeah.

Also, let's just say this about Shannon Sharp.

He got fired from ESPN.

I do think that's kind of bullshit that happened the week of his brother going to the Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

He probably deserved.

There's a lot of stuff going on with Shannon Sharp right now, but he was like, I'm disappointed they they did this kind of stealing from my brother's moment i kind of agree with that they could have done it last week or the week before or a month before that it was nice that that sterling also shouted out his brother he was like he's with me through thick and through thin recently it looks like it's been through more thick than thin but it's a seems like a good brother yeah so shout out families what's that

exact that was exact quote i added the second part on he said the thick and thin that was exact quote he meant thick eric allen is the last hall of famer that how did it take you that long max oh he's not he's scrolling he's scrolling twitter now because we got him in the pro rape uh allegations so next year i'm looking forward to next year in the hall of fame yeah phillip rivers philip rivers i'm looking for

julian

larry fitzgerald fat ass i just i want to see what face they put on phil rivers

not what jersey what face what face what i agree because he's got so many faces that he's he's put put out there in the nfl did you guys see uh wanna wanna wanna be bummed out

phil brovers is a grandfather wow

did you see that he's a grandfather

which i mean like father like son he doesn't he doesn't you know his kids don't wrap it up

isn't that insane we know what his bus is gonna look like because he's got 10 of them walking that's right right uh okay so vanny woodhead hall of fame game But the real story.

Well, there's there's one more thing in the Hall of Fame game.

Oh, okay.

We got introduced to a new piece of technology.

That's true.

We should talk about that.

Yes.

The Hawkeye, they're putting tennis in our football.

They mix tennis in with football.

And what they did was on the first down, they showed the AI slop 3D cam that they hit a button and then they put a graphic on the screen and then the yellow line appears on the screen.

The yellow line,

that's not new technology.

We know that's a 10-yard measurement from where the line of scrimmage was.

The ball is still spotted by the rack.

Correct.

So it doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

They're just like, look at this cool robot program we came up with.

that makes you think like you're watching football of the year 3000 We got something that hopefully people won't bitch about Yeah, but guess what?

I'm bitching about it because yeah, no, we're bitching about it for other reasons But like I'm saying the the bills chiefs game.

Yeah, exactly.

But they got they still have the chain gang on the sideline.

Yeah.

And they're just standing there with their dick in their hand watching like a bunch of cucks while a robot takes their job.

It's bullshit.

Like they didn't bring them out on the field.

They might as well be sitting in a leather chair in a hotel room corner.

They're just sitting there like, okay, yeah, go to the robots.

Go to the robots, Chris.

Thanks.

I also don't like that they clearly set it up for the first debut of it to be a first down, a clear first down.

They didn't want that smoke.

They didn't want to be right up against that yellow line.

And they're trying to figure out a way to make it a presentation.

You don't know what's going to happen until they inch the yellow line out there.

Because when you first look at the ball, there's no yellow line.

And they're like, now we'll show you where the yellow line is.

Yep.

That's fucked up.

I don't like it at all.

By the way, breaking moose.

The over in the Hall of Fame game has just hit.

Cash it.

So can't go on defeat if you don't start 1-0.

I thought you were going to say that Terry was traded.

No, come on, dude.

That would be breaking moves, wouldn't it?

It would be.

All right, we should talk about it.

It could happen at any minute.

We should talk about it.

Micah.

But

before we do that, I'm kind of blinded by...

What's that orange hat you're wearing, dude?

I got this orange hat at Pastranoland.

But wait, isn't that the orange hat that they only gave out to like 42 people in the world?

Low 40s, yes.

And I was gracious enough.

Travis Prada was gracious enough to award me with one.

You got awarded with one.

I was awarded with one by Travis Pistrada for Mike 230.

You were gracious enough to accept it.

Wholeheartedly, yes.

Yeah.

You were.

But yeah, so for people who don't know, PMTV out already.

Incredible video.

We went to Pastrana Land.

Travis Pestrana is the coolest guy ever.

It was so much fun.

Dream come true.

Dream come true.

And Zach stole the show because

he was the most badass guy we got.

And now he's got a hat that you can only get if you get med vaced out or do a new trick that's never been done.

Your new trick was the barrel roll.

It was a barrel roll, yeah.

Barrel roll, yeah.

We managed to barrel roll, boys.

Yeah, we did.

Not quite sure how, but we did.

Zach, my favorite part of the video is when you're going back, getting ready to hit the jump, and you just repeating, you keep repeating the mantra to yourself, just like, was it full throttle?

No kill switch.

Kill switch, it's like kill switch, go straight, don't go right, or something.

It was

strict instructions, and I just wanted to.

I didn't want to forget them.

i so i just pounded i just kept repeating them as much as you pounded the instructions yeah

we were we were doing the the interviewing travis while you were practicing what like

what level what percentage of of like i can do this were you at while we were doing the podcast like where was your head at during it beforehand So while you guys are doing the podcast, Street Bike Tommy shot to Street Bike Tommy.

He was teaching me how to ride a dirt bike for the first time.

And for a majority of those lessons, which he was great at teaching me everything, slowing it down, repeating stuff, because I did ask the same questions probably multiple times.

I didn't feel too, too good about it.

No, zero is the answer.

You were at a zero.

It was not looking good on the bike at all.

You just kept on going slower and slower and falling off.

He kept saying, speed it up, speed it up.

And I was like, okay, I'll go a little quicker.

And then I just went the same speed every time.

It was not good.

When Travis sent the 15-year-old girl to do the backflip right in front of you to show you how it's done,

did that make you more confident or was that demoralizing?

I think it gave me a little bit of confidence because I was like, okay, someone just safely went in the phone pit.

Okay.

So you can safely go in.

And I was like, hopefully I can safely go in.

But she didn't barrel roll.

True, she ripped a backflip, though.

Yeah, but that's been done a million times in Pastranoland.

That is true.

A lot of guys backflip.

I'm sure many will barrel roll, but we did barrel roll the other day at Pastrana Land.

Yes.

That is so unreal day ever.

You invented it.

It's awesome.

You're the most badass on this podcast.

You guys are badass too, but we did rip a dirt bike into the phone pit the other other day, and it was sick.

Yeah, we don't have hats, yeah.

We don't have hats, that's very true.

We don't have hats.

Um, Terry, yeah, Terry McLaurin has uh requested a trade.

Requested

Max just perked up, requested Max just perked up.

There's a difference between requesting a trade and demanding a trade.

Okay, he hasn't demanded a trade, you requested a trade, okay.

Everybody requests a trade.

That's true.

Three guys requested a trade in the last five years,

three receivers.

Guess how many got traded?

Zero, zero, not a memes is only up one finger one who memes debo samuel oh debo samuel uh no he he went he went back to camp and played a full season for the 49ers but then what happened then he got traded to the commanders because the commanders are a better organization

who were the other three uh there was t higgins okay requested a trade yep and uh some someone else did it too iuk i think okay iuke did it last year yeah yeah so and terry wants over 33 33 million.

He want the numbers I've heard are that we've offered 27, 28, and he wants 33.

And it's a big gap.

And you want to try to keep your El Camino.

I would like to, but if you listen to later on in the show, I might have already given it away.

That's true.

That's a problem.

You got to buy another one.

Yeah.

So where you said 110%

confidence.

I did say that.

And I say where we're at now.

111.

Got what you went better today.

The request request of a trade actually got you more confident that it's going to hit me.

It makes me want him more.

Yeah.

That's probably what he's doing.

It does feel like, though, this is a little bit of a game of chicken where this probably, the request of a trade should have probably happened a while ago.

Now that we're in camp, like what's going to happen?

Well, the way I'll put it, Hank, you're actually a good person to ask this question, too.

You had to do summer reading as a kid, right?

Yeah.

When you got to August 1st,

did you ever have it done?

Never.

Well, no, wait, hold on.

You got to, that was a loaded question.

Hank, did you ever do your summer reading?

No.

That's a problem.

Did you ever do the Spark notes for your summer reading?

This is pre-internet.

Yeah, I don't think so.

The Spark Notes also.

This is a book.

You've never opened that.

You don't know how to open those.

Did you ever try to do your summer reading at any point?

Yes.

Did you ever rob that?

Yes, yes, yes.

When would that typically have been?

August 20th.

There you go.

Later.

There you go.

So we're pretty much doing a book report with Terry.

Okay.

So we just have to get it done by the first day of school, and then Terry will get it.

In this analogy,

in this analogy, you guys would be trying to get the deal done during the first quarter of the first game.

And you wouldn't get it done.

No, and then you'd be like, hey, did you guys get the deal done?

You'd be like, fuck.

And you get an F on the trade.

Yeah.

Use anyone else but Hank.

No, I think this is a great example.

I think what I'm saying is we're just, we're just, there's no sense of urgency right now.

It's whatever.

I think the urgency is coming.

Yeah, no, it's here.

It's here.

We were just at camp.

There's plenty of fans out.

People are ready for the season.

If that's really what the holdup is, if we're talking about a difference of $6 million,

I say just give him $33 million.

I'd say pay Terry.

Okay.

I'd say pay Terry.

He's not your money.

He's worth $33 million at least minimum.

He's done it.

I'm on Terry's side of this.

We got to figure out a way to get it done because Terry is a perfect teammate.

He's an awesome guy, great football player.

His numbers last year were incredible.

You need him if you want to be inside the Super Bowl.

If Terry's not on the team, I think I might have to exclude this year from the Super Bowl window.

Because we're in the window.

I'm not thinking Soupy.

I'm not saying we're going to win the Super Bowl, but we're in the window.

If he's not on the team, this is not a window year.

The window.

A great quarterback doesn't need star wide receivers to be in the window.

I'm closing the window.

Top five.

Top five.

This is actually, it's worse for Max because Max,

you have a lot of credibility

on Jaden being a top five quarterback.

No, I've been told that top five quarterbacks, it doesn't matter what their wide receivers are.

If you have good wide receivers, it's actually worse for your standing in the quarterbacks.

Who told you that?

Everyone in the media who says that Jalen Hurts, having good wide receivers, makes him a bad quarterback.

Everyone in the media said that?

Yeah, and Justin Herbert being a top-five quarterback because he has bad wide receivers.

Well, that's Trey Lance's job now, buddy.

Sure.

Yeah.

Brady never had great receivers until it actually helps my standing if Jaden Daniels doesn't have good wide receivers because that's the only thing that people care about.

Brady did have good wide receivers.

That's a lie.

He had a Hall of Fame tight end, probably the best tight end ever.

Memes has a smirk on his face.

You think Ternandi is in the Hall of Fame?

Yeah.

Yeah, well, Memes has

a huge smirk on his face.

You can't see him from this angle.

Many Woodhead angles are a little tight.

You know why you can't see memes from this angle?

Because his fat ass won't fit in the seat without hitting the horn.

He tried to climb into the driver's seat a second ago, ass cheek right on the horn.

He's like, well, you can't do that.

Memes, would you like to, would you like to,

you're smiling.

Because I'm unfortunately,

it looks like Terry McLaurin might get traded, and I have PFT's side in the fact that I said he's not going to get traded, so I will be wrong with PFT, but Memes and Max have been the trolls.

Memes, go ahead.

You're going to take a victory lap right now?

Not yet, but the Jets do have the best odds to land Terry.

Oh.

Oh, my God.

And I do like Alcaminos.

Terry has a lot of experience playing with bad quarterbacks, so that would be a good fit for him.

What are you going to say to that?

We don't know.

This is Justin Fields' best opportunity.

I do like Justin Fields.

I just like making fun of memes more.

But we got to get it done.

Got to get it.

And tell you what, my official stance, I'm not trading Terry.

Okay.

What are you going to do if you don't get it done?

Request refused.

Are you going to

give up any other cars?

No.

Cry?

No, I'm going to cry.

Okay.

I promise you this.

If we trade Terry, I will cry.

Would you rather Terry go to the Jets or the Patriots?

If you had to pick one?

If I had to pick one?

Definitely.

Jets.

Jets.

Not even a question.

That didn't take me half a second to think that to, Hank.

I would prefer Patriots.

Same?

Yeah, I know you would.

But if the shoe was on the other foot and it was A.J.

Brown, you would say go to the Jets, right?

It'd be cool.

But there's one difference there.

Terry McLaurin has requested a trade.

Replace Brown.

That's the politest way.

People aren't talking about how polite it is to request a trade instead of a trade.

Well, that was how Schefter put it.

We don't know.

He might have demanded.

No, I saw many reports saying that was requested.

They all just copied Schefter.

Well, Jordan Schultz came out with it first, which is somewhat of a red flag that his agent went to Jordan Schultz first.

Well, he probably got some Uber stock.

Probably.

Yeah.

That's what this is about.

This is probably an entirely made-up story just for Jordan Schultz to keep forking over money to Terry's agent.

Glad we got to the bottom of it.

Okay.

So let's talk about Micah.

Yeah, Yeah, yeah, Micah.

What do you got about Micah?

He's not happy.

Yeah.

He should probably get traded.

He's unhappy.

I would consider Terry for Micah.

You already said you already tried to trade Terry for Big Dom.

I did, but I realized that was a pipe dream.

Yeah, turn that down.

If Big Dom came to Washington, he would 100% just be a bull for the Eagles.

You can't take the Eagles out of that guy.

Absolutely.

I would trade.

Yeah, Terry for Micah.

I think that makes sense.

Yeah.

Okay.

Any other other football stuff?

Oh, Antonio Gates will be the first Hall of Famer to be inducted that never played a down of college football.

Kind of cool.

Stud.

It's pretty crazy.

That's very cool.

That's very cool.

Any other football stuff?

We just got training camps going.

Crazy training camp stuff.

The fat guy in Tampa is still fat.

It's very much.

Yeah.

That's the update.

We just had him in his jersey on the sideline today.

Yeah.

He's not even walking anymore.

I could use, he was leaning on some

practice equipment.

It didn't look too, it was a little disheartening.

I hope they get him on the field so soon.

Yeah, it's messed up how they have a camera just following him around as he's just walking all the time like it's a wildlife trail cam that you set out for a deer.

Yeah, you're like, oh, he's here.

He's back.

Best place to lose weight, though.

Yeah,

they're just making him walk and stand in the heat and probably like judging what he puts in, you know, in his mouth.

That Florida sun's 103 degrees.

He'll get it off quick.

Yeah, he'll get it off real quick.

He's never played in Florida before.

Different heat closer to the beach, maybe?

Yeah.

Is it?

Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

Okay, yeah.

Listen, I want him to play, so I hope that he is able to shed the weight.

Yeah.

Okay.

Should we talk MLB trade deadline?

Yeah.

So it happened.

A few of us have teams that were active.

I could start.

Cubs trade deadline recap.

That's what that got.

They got no plan.

They got a bunch of rental arms.

A super utility man, which I like that.

That's cool.

Anytime you can get a super utility man, it's awesome.

But it feels like Kyle Tucker will not be re-signed.

The Cubs had,

they traded a prospect,

a really good prospect in Cam Smith for Kyle Tucker.

They traded Cody Bellinger to free up cash.

Everyone thought this was like, oh shit, they have a window to go all in.

And then they did nothing at the trade deadline.

And they're holding on to prospects.

And then they're probably not going to sign Kyle Tucker.

And then they're going to have the prospects come up next year.

And they're going to be like, well, we'll just be cheaper than we've ever been.

And yeah, it's a disaster.

They essentially said today, we're not actively trying to win the whole thing.

We're just trying to get in the playoffs and hope every single player plays to their best ability.

And then even then, it probably won't be enough.

That's not a great feeling to have.

No.

Because

it's just so stupid.

Like you get, you should actually, they should have traded Kyle Tucker today.

Especially when other teams in the National League made a concerted effort to get better.

The Padres, the Mets, the Phillies

all got better.

The only thing that I keep saying to myself, the only way that I will

believe in the Cubs actively trying to win a World Series again is I do not think, I think this basically

is Kyle Tucker's not going to re-sign because they have outfielders in the minor leagues that they could have traded for high-end pitching prospects.

They didn't.

I don't know if there was a bunch of guys available.

I don't know if the price was too high, but this was a chance to go all in.

You have a very good team and you could have, if you got a top-end starter, you're like actively, hey, we could win the World Series.

If they don't re-sign Kyle Tucker, the only way they can make it right is if they bring back Kyle Schwerber.

I decided on that.

I'm going to start putting the pressure on that because he's a free agent.

But you also just kind of did the same thing thinking that they had a plan.

No, they don't.

But you just kind of assume that they did based on the fact they didn't trade their young outfielders that are in the system because in your mind, that means they're not going to re-sign Tucker.

Correct.

That would indicate that they had a plan.

But the plan doesn't make sense because

if you are signing Kyle Tucker for a one-year rental, that should be the time you go push the chips in and be like, we have him.

I think that they've got like,

their plans are so bad that it's identical to not having a plan.

Right.

And they also got, they, they traded Cody Bellinger to free up cash.

And like, it was like, oh, okay, this is going to be used at a later date.

And now it's not.

And it just sucks.

It sucks.

And they don't, yeah, I mean, they're starting pitching.

Like, we got, we got some arms, but we still have not a great, I mean, we got guys coming back from injury, but it's just not going to be enough.

I don't think it's going to be enough against the Mets, the Phillies, the Padres, the Dodgers.

There's a lot of good NL teams.

How much do you believe right now?

I do think, listen, the most frustrating part is the Cubs did get better as a team.

Like, they're better today than they were a week ago, which is a crazy thing to say, obviously, because I just was very down on the trade deadline.

They are better because they have more depth, but they don't have enough to be like competing for an actual World Series this year.

Their starting rotation is just nowhere near World Series worthy, unless everyone just decides to be the best version of themselves for an entire month.

And then, even again, still, I don't know if that's enough.

Phillies and Mets, though, they actually went for it, right?

Yeah,

I'd say B for the Phils.

That B plus is a lot better than Metal.

B-plus is good.

The number one need was getting a back-end reliever, and they got probably top two one that was on the market, him and Mason Miller.

Mason Miller is probably one, he was probably two, and Johan Duran,

but

they went pretty safe.

They also needed another bat in the outfield that could hit

left-handed pitching.

They got Harrison Bader, who is like an okay guy, but well, okay, baseball player.

What

he's okay, baseball player, okay, baseball player, yeah, sure, he's a nice guy.

Yeah, no, he's a nice guy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right.

His old tweets.

I don't know.

I don't remember that.

Oh, it was an all-star game?

I'm not familiar.

That's good.

Keep saying it.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Don't learn.

Because we don't want to add another thing on your list.

Okay.

He's an okay baseball player.

He's having a pretty good year.

He's close to an 800 OPS, but like.

There were other bigger names out there that you could have gone all in for, and we didn't really address the cleanup role, the cleanup hitter.

We have like the worst cleanup hitter in baseball right now, and it's tough there, but they got a lot better.

They got a lot better.

And then they signed some other guy from the Tigers reliever that people like, Matt Manning.

Oh, wait.

Harrison Bader's not the guy we're thinking of, PFT.

What?

We both thought of the wrong guy?

Yeah.

Who are we thinking of?

It's Bader, right?

The Brewer's reliever.

Oh, that's Josh Hader.

Oh!

Oh, yeah.

Because when he started talking about OPS, I was like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

Josh Hader.

Harrison Bader.

Josh Hayter.

Sorry, Harrison Bader.

But that was us.

That's on us.

That's on us.

Hey, Big Cat.

We take accountability on this side of the boat.

Josh Hayter, that I am familiar with.

Yes.

That's crazy.

We Baron seemed better at the same exact time.

Literally the same time.

Somebody look up Harrison Bader's tweets.

We might be right about it.

Me and Big Cat were so in sync on that one.

There might be something in the universe that we don't know about.

I hope he's an AWL and he's listening to this.

What the fuck?

Sorry, Horace Bader.

Everyone who tweeted us correcting us, please update your tweet now because we're going to get a lot of those.

Yep.

All right.

So overall, B?

B plus.

And Duran has the sickest closer and entrance of all time, which is going to be so fucking sick in October.

Oh, that's what is it?

It's some song that I don't know.

It's a.

How do you say his first name?

Johan.

Johan.

You just said it three different ways.

Yo, Adrian.

I'm still, I'm still, I've heard it three different ways.

Like, I've been listening to like reports, and multiple people say it different ways.

Johan, I think, is like

the white way to say it.

And, like, Johan is like how, is, like, the real way to say it.

Okay.

Like, what's the funny thing?

Also, I think we should just normalize saying names wrong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bullshit when people come at it everywhere.

Right.

Yes.

Yeah.

Right hand?

Yes.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Ben saying that.

Especially baseball, it's like you follow your team and then new.

But he's on your team now.

I know, but that's what I'm trying to learn.

You did.

You were like in the car when it happened.

You were just like, how do I fucking pronounce his name?

How do I pronounce his name?

All right.

Memes?

I'm also giving the Mets a B plus.

Okay.

We stacked the bullpen.

We got three guys and we got a center fielder.

Did not get a starting pitcher.

Everybody thought they were going to get a starting pitcher, possibly a Grom.

Do we think starting pitchers were just not available?

Because that's

the people who are.

There's very few people who are defending what the Cubs did, but the only defense I've seen is, well, the price was just too high for starting pitching.

I just can't, I can't believe that no one wanted to give up anyone.

Like, Mackenzie Gore didn't go.

I'm glad.

I'm glad.

Yeah, Merrill Kelly went to the Rangers.

He would have been nice.

Zach Allen didn't move.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I'm guessing there weren't too many guys that were like real quality starters that were available.

But I just feel like there's always a price.

Like, you can always go.

And there's another one that didn't go that people thought were going to go.

Sandy Alcantar.

Yeah.

But, like, you,

maybe I just don't know how baseball trades work, but there's always a problem.

Like, I'm convinced the Cubs could have said, hey, let's go all in and get a guy who could be controlled for a couple of years, like Mackenzie Gore.

All right, so B plus?

I'd say B plus.

Okay.

We also had

who else made big moves?

The Padres?

Padres got some bullpen help.

Yep.

The Padres.

I might be back in on the Padres.

I feel like it's every time of year for me when I start thinking about the Padres, and I was thinking about them today.

Great bullpen.

They had maybe the best bullpin last year, and their bullpen's better.

Yeah.

And

they got Ryan O'Hearn from the Orioles.

The Orioles actually did a pretty good job of maybe, like, they still have their young core of maybe trading pieces in a season that's been very disappointing for them.

Orioles fans are not happy.

Well, I mean, they were

in the contention for, like, they were a World Series talked-about team going into this season, and they just were really bad.

There were lots of things that the Mason Miller Padres trade was an absolute flea thing, that the Padres gave up way too much.

Ooh, I love that.

I feel like the pods always do that.

Did you look on my new, the new

account

that I told you about?

I did not look at that.

It could be total bullshit.

It's just a Twitter account that I found that grades every trade in baseball and says the computer model grades this like a fair trade or overpay.

I was, yeah, I was reading something that like the Padres,

like for the only reason for it to make sense for the amount that they gave up for Mason Miller is that

they must see him as a starter like going forward.

Because I think they gave up

a top 10 prospect plus two other top 100 guys for a closer, which is insane.

I think they gave up a number seven prospect.

That's the thing, though, you can't prospect hold all the time.

These guys,

every farm system in baseball has a top 10 prospect list, and like five of those guys won't be big leaguers.

No, that was top, like overall.

Oh, it was like that's different.

It was a top 10 overall prospect.

Oh, overall, overall.

Because I

MLB.

I hate the like, oh, we traded our seventh best prospect.

It's like, that guy might not make it to the big leagues.

You don't know.

Like, you got to win.

Chances are they won't win.

Sometimes they turn out to be PCA, though.

Yeah, that's true.

PCA, pretty good.

The Blue Jays got Shane Bieber.

Yep.

Which is a big move.

The only takeaway from me is that Blue Jays' Bieber jersey is going to sell like hotcakes.

That's huge.

The Yankees made a bunch of moves.

Oh, oh, I have this.

This is the best Bob Nightingale tweet.

He's such a a fucking weirdo.

I bookmarked it.

All right, here we go.

I love his avatar.

If the Yankees and Dodgers meet in the World Series, look for new outfielder Austin Slater to start against Dodger Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw.

His numbers against Kershaw, 9 for 30, 4 home runs, 5 RBIs, 31 plate appearances.

Huge.

What the fuck was that?

9 for 30?

Was that 324?

The Yankees traded for Austin Slater because he might face Clayton Kershaw in the World Series?

He's the only hitter in baseball that can beat Clayton Kershaw in the playoffs.

Yeah.

It's never happened.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

I don't even know if that's a, if he's saying that because it's a good stat for him or a bad stat against Clayton Kershaw in the playoffs.

Yeah.

No, that's yeah, that's true.

He might be bad against Clayton Kershaw because Clayton Kershaw is mostly bad in the playoffs.

Bad move by the Yankees.

Right.

Okay, other winners?

Hank, you got a guy, Dustin May?

Yeah, they didn't do much.

Everything I saw from the Red Sox where they were pussies, didn't do anything.

I did read up about

cheap owners.

I read about Dustin May, though.

It's a good story.

So I think it was two years ago, maybe two and a half years ago, he almost died.

He choked on a salad, went down the wrong pipe, and then he tried to drink water to wash it down, and all the water spilled over and went into his lungs.

He had to go to the hospital, emergency surgery, and then he had Tommy John right after that.

That's a great story.

Yeah, but he almost died.

I'm happy he's with us.

Don't eat salads.

Don't eat salads.

Salads are killers.

Twins literally gave up their entire team.

They have nobody left.

Correa back to the Astros.

That was a big one.

Yep.

And Yuaneosuarez back to the Mariners.

Yes.

Mariners could be dangerous.

Yep, for sure.

Yeah.

What else we got?

I think that was it.

That's been a good thing.

That's everything that happened.

That was around the diamond.

That was around the diamond.

Oh, I have a quick update for you on

players in training camp who have been dubbed war daddies.

Okay, I like that.

Jaden Reed in 2023, Puka Nakua in 2024.

This year, we have two new war daddies:

Chubba Hubbard and Rico Dowdle.

Really?

Yeah.

Rico DeDewe.

Yeah.

I don't feel like a running back can be a war daddy.

Well, war daddies should be

like guards.

Defensive tackles.

That's a war daddy.

That was two, two, the Coach Speak Index, which we follow.

That's a war daddy.

They both have been called War Daddies.

I also saw that there was a...

What are you guys looking at?

I got breaking news for my stats guy Hank.

Okay.

Stats guy Hank just pulled this up.

Stat guy Hank.

Go.

Terry McLaurin, next team odds.

Let's go two through four.

All right, two is the Patriots, plus 450.

Yep.

Raiders plus 500.

Titans, plus 1,100.

That's two through four.

Tied for four?

Tied for four.

Chargers, plus 1,100.

Whoa, Shane.

yeah that's two through four number one

the commanders minus 250.

we're not trading them what about the jets uh they're number number six they were

memes did a aaron rodgers top five i read a different tweet

they're number they're number six but they're next to they're to the right of the commanders memes you did not read a different tweet because the tweet i'm looking at right now

yeah it was it was 21 minutes ago and the jets look like they could be number two because they're in the top right corner but they're actually number six if you follow the numbers.

Sorry, memes.

It says Jets Plus 300.

Listen,

if I could make the call, I would trade him to the Jets way before I trade him to the Patriots.

Way before.

Me too.

You don't want either of those.

I don't.

I mean, memes, Hank is like the devil you know.

Memes is the one you just, he just, the smile, the smirk.

Calling you little guy.

He's a fat ass.

He's a fat ass.

He could probably manhandle you he could probably sit on you and suffocate you like a bug choke me out with his farts

these are all bad things these are bad ideas did you release that debo video yet what did you release that debo jersey video yet debo's on the show today past memes i don't know it's coming all right then i won't say that's just a little teaser a little teaser yeah

we tried on uh little teaser a little tried on smaller smaller debo jerseys until i look fat yeah uh

great science experiment we should should have said Gilbert Arenas also got arrested for having a

poker game at his house, high-end poker game with maybe an Israeli mafia member.

He got released.

Okay.

My understanding per Gilbert Arenas is that he rented a house that happened to have a poker game going on it.

Now, I don't know.

Oh, that's the classic, like, oh,

those drugs in my trunk, someone else put them there.

Yeah, I don't know how

the poker table that says Arenas on it, I don't know where that comes into play.

I don't know if you rented that too.

If somebody else made that.

Might not have been his table.

Gilbert Arenas, say what you want, but he's going to go down as one of the all-time card players because

everything

bad is just surrounding cards.

Yeah, is he a problem poker player?

Yeah.

I mean, guys can't have any fun anymore.

That was my initial reaction.

I think I'm going to stick with it until something bad comes out from it.

You should be allowed to run illegal poker games.

I agree.

I agree.

Okay, I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we missed.

Anything we missed?

Big.

Anything?

Boys?

Memes, what you got?

This might not be big, but Maverick Carter met with Jokic's European agent on a yacht.

I saw that.

Sounds big when you say it.

Yep.

Yeah, I mean, LeBron James is just going to start his own league.

He's going to retire from the NBA.

He's going to start an international league, and he's going to try to destroy the NBA.

Yeah.

Marcus Cousins was on a podcast, and he said when he shared a locker with Jokic Jokic, he was like, I heard someone, or we saw on the news, like someone signed for X amount of money and I was like, damn, like, Jokic, you're going to get a huge contract.

He's like, I might retire after this one.

Yeah.

He wants to be with his horse.

So Jokic, I could easily see signing for, doing, you know, signing for a bag and then

just chilling.

We also had Daryl Maury just basically cemented that the bubble championship doesn't count.

What did he say?

He said, had the Rockets won the title, I absolutely would have celebrated it as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience required.

Yet everyone I speak to around the league privately agrees that it doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship.

Perhaps a lasting legacy of the NBA bubble is that the NBA should be proud of its leadership at both the beginning and end of the pandemic, even though the champion will forever be marked by an asterisk.

So the real champions are the same.

The championship counts, though.

What?

Like he was saying he would have counted it.

Well, no, he's saying he would have celebrated it like it's real, but he said around the league, people.

I think he's saying that Adam Silver should have celebrated the championship for himself.

Yeah, right.

The NBA staffers.

Yeah, we did it.

We brought sports back.

Yeah.

The person who stitched Reading Matters on the back of Michael Porter Jr.'s shirt.

What was the one that said group economics?

Yeah.

On the back.

I got to get that jersey.

Wild times.

Wild times.

Okay.

I actually do have one thing I want to finish with just to get everyone excited.

I know Hank doesn't like this because he loves the summer so much.

He's going to be mad.

This is from Matt 2Frosty.

It went viral, but it deserves to go viral.

He said, I've already got my eyes eyes set on the best weekend of the fall.

September 27th.

Here's what we got.

Saturday, Ryder Cup.

Yes.

Bama vs.

Georgia.

Nice.

LSU versus Ole Miss.

Oregon versus Penn State.

Whiteout.

September 28th, Sunday, Ryder Cup.

Yeah.

Eagles versus Bucs.

Yeah.

Ravens versus Chiefs.

Oh, yeah.

Packers versus Cowboys.

Fuck yeah.

That's coming, guys.

It's coming.

Yeah.

It's coming.

Yeah, I'm ready.

i'm ready i am too my body is ready that that did something to me yeah it really did i read it i was just like oh my god yes yes oh yeah you versus che

and zach and zach oh man

the creams of the bucks boy

do well against eagles that fat guy they do do well against eagles yeah you do do well against eagles look at that hat said you look like bobby bacola

hunting

It's a great look.

Great episode.

Zach, I think in the future, when you get on the bike, the glasses off was a great move, I think, on the bike.

That's Daredevil's act.

Yeah, but there's one more piece.

You got to put the earrings back in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You would look, dude, you look smoking hot.

What are they called?

Diamonds with diamonds or hoops?

I wouldn't mind seeing you have some gauges.

Is that what they're called?

Yeah.

Gauges?

I can't do that.

Why?

Just stretch those earlobes out.

It's so permanent in your earlobes.

Yeah.

You never get them back.

Wait, do you just have the one hole in each side?

I do.

I would like.

They're going to go right and everyone would want to.

Was it the diamond stud?

It was like, yeah,

but it was like the fake diamond stud from Claire's, like the

eight bucks.

No, we'll get you some real diamonds.

I want one of them to be

like the Barry Bonds.

All dangly.

The cross?

Oh, yeah.

Maybe you get like

a three-carat stone on one side and then a dangly cross on the other.

Not even, maybe, maybe, maybe like a lightning bolt.

I don't have the kind of speed, but that's also a Z.

The lightning bolt is also a Z.

We saw you on the bike.

You got speed.

Well, if we do group pierce, we all just send it.

Earrings.

What do we think?

I'm out.

Out.

Okay,

but I'm in for you.

I'm already holed up.

Are you?

Yeah.

Let me see.

When did you hole up?

When I was like 16.

Yeah, but you don't have the holes like Zach has holes.

I do on my left.

They say they close.

Oh, you don't have holes, Hank.

No, Zach, dude, you can see that.

I got big ass holes.

Big ear lobes.

Big ears.

No, you're good.

You're not.

Don't do that to yourself.

You see the hole, Hank?

Can you?

I can feel him.

You just do a little ice cube in the back, numb it up.

We can poke them through.

Yeah, that's how I did it the first time.

Zach, before I do the ad to get us to Mount Rushmore.

In your house?

I pierced my ear at my friend's house.

Yeah.

Just pierced my ear with the earring.

Zach, before we get dude, there was a clip on.

You just shoved it through.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

That's such a Hank story, too.

You went home?

What did your parents say when you went home?

Oh, my God.

My mom is furious.

My grandmother was like a broken.

Would your mom write a chapter in the book?

Yeah.

That would be so awesome.

My mom was

just raising Henry Lockwood.

Her mom was

living at our house at the end of her days.

And she was like, go show your grandmother.

She's going to be so mad.

And my grandma's like, oh, you look so nice.

And my mom was so mad.

Oh, backfired.

Dude, yeah, we should actually have her just like, just give us a couple Hank stories.

Just a couple Hank stories.

Zach, can you, before I do the ad to get us to Mount Rushmore, can you just maybe look look into the camera and just give the people just a peek of Daredevil Zach?

Yes, sir.

What's going on, guys?

No, no, you know what Daredevil Zack.

Do I deglass?

Yeah, and then

you got to talk with confidence and be like, I'm here to fuck some shit up.

We're going to fuck some shit up.

Yeah, there it is.

Let's do it.

No kill switch.

No kill switch.

You got to have the kill switch.

That was one of the rules.

Oh,

I thought I said full throttle, no kill switch.

Go straight, don't go right, kill switch.

I was just trying to remember where it was at because they said if you end up like in the foam pit with the bike for too long, I got to kill it.

Oh.

I thought it was full throttle, no kill switch.

And then, Jack, the dismount out of the foam pit.

Can you talk us through that?

Oh,

that was the part that actually worried me.

I thought that you were going to break something.

They did have a crane that grabs a bike and scoops you out of the foam pit.

So they picked me up.

I was holding on or thought I was holding on.

And then there happened to be like a wasp's nest or a bee's nest underneath.

So they started shouting that out.

And I kind of freaked out.

And he's like, all right, go a little quicker.

And then I guess Travis thought he was telling the other gentleman to drop me on the ledge, and then he brought me over the ledge, and I just didn't have the upper body strength to stay on the bike, and I went down.

You were hanging for a long time.

I appreciate that.

I hang for as long as I could.

Yeah, yeah.

It's hard to hang.

It's hard to hang.

It is.

There's no reason to appreciate that.

It's like a...

He's telling him he was respecting his upper body.

He's hanging for a long time.

He's saying I had some body weight exercise in me.

We would still be in Travis Festrano's

driveway if I had let that keep going.

It just is such an unbelievable experience.

Yeah, I know, but you had to express him.

You attract him because he kept on saying you did a great job, and you just kept on saying, I appreciate that.

Like, and thank you so much for giving me the hat, and I appreciate that.

And then he would thank you, and then you'd thank him.

And then

Zach would try to give the hat back, and then Travis would be like, No, no, you earned it.

And then Zach would say, I really appreciate that.

I really appreciate that so, so much, sir.

It was great.

All-time day.

Yeah, it was great.

I felt like Mills Lane.

I just had to break it up.

Like, all right, break.

You guys are never going to end.

I was like that other thank you off.

That other boxing rep that was just like, oh, yeah, I was loving watching you guys go back.

Oh,

how's he going to think I'm here?

Oh, that's nice.

Got him with the left.

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Mount Rushmore time.

Let's get it.

Mount Rush more time.

Hank, we can see it.

Nope.

Nope.

Hank's got the giggles.

No, no screen watching.

Zach was being cute.

No screen watching?

No screen watching.

Let's all agree, no screen watching.

Well, I mean, Max and memes.

Should we talk about memes, the controversy on Wednesdays, Mount Rushbourne?

Yeah, I think we should.

So memes and Max won.

I think, what's the standings right now?

Standings.

are

this is a non-story by the way it's not a non-story there was let the listeners be the judge of that map there was more votes

max memes 26 big cat and zach 24 hank and pft 22.

Okay, so we all are separated by two.

On Wednesday, we were at Eagles Camp.

The poll went live on the pardon by Twitter.

So everyone should go vote.

We do it live at 12 Eastern every single Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

No tampering with the poll.

We can't retweet.

We can't like all this stuff.

Something interesting happened, though, because it was a very close poll.

I think Zach and I were actually in the lead to start for the first 2,000 or so votes.

And then all of a sudden, Max and Memes got in the lead by a percent.

And then, would you look at that?

Memes decided, hey, I'm going to start tweeting from the Pardon My Take Twitter account and burying the poll.

He put out a picture of Pug.

He put out a video of Big Cat.

He retreated.

He retweeted Hank.

And memes.

Not even Hank.

It was a compliment.

It was a compliment.

Yeah, it was a comment.

Memes would never in a million years retweet a compliment regarding Hank Lockwood.

And he chose to do it three tweets within the span of

15 minutes, all right after they took the lead.

It was like going to the polls and then somebody causing a bomb threat to the polling location.

Just shut down the votes.

We ended up with like barely any votes on this Mount Rushmore and we lost what we normally get.

We lost by half a Zach and I lost by half a percent.

Half a percent because you decided to start going on a Twitter spree.

As soon as we tweeted out the poll,

the Eagles were nice enough to bring in a Super Bowl ring.

Tacky.

Tacky ring.

Yeah.

And it was a cool moment.

And you had to get get it out right then.

Yeah, I felt the need.

That feeling.

Do your job.

You felt the need to do your job.

Yeah.

Also, out of the past five Mountain Rushmore polls that had the second most votes.

Not nearly as much as Monday's, though.

What about the other four?

Talk about Grit Week.

It's Grit Week.

Grit Week Bunt Week is our biggest year of the year.

Get the Grit Week Bunt.

Grit web.

See what happens.

So, what should their penalty be?

They have to drive through Mountain Rushmore.

All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

I think they should just have to.

Zach, say aye.

Yes, sir.

Say,

yes.

Aye.

There we go.

That's four.

Four to two.

What do we do now?

You guys got to drive.

Let's just stop with this and let's do the Mount Rushmore.

Let's do the Mount Rushmore.

We just wanted our complaints heard.

That's all.

We just wanted on the record that memes would never in a million years do that.

So don't tweet for the two hours it's posted.

It's no, no, no, no.

If Zach and I are in the lead, you can tweet all you want.

Okay.

And if it's a nice compliment, like you can, that was a nice retweet.

You can do that.

So you're all right with that one?

Yeah.

I'll say this.

The rings could have waited.

Behind the scenes of Grit Week, the one thing I'm excited to be done with on Grit Week is

all of us together watching the poll.

It's very, very

stress-inducing because we all just sit there and refresh and we're like, oh,

it's over.

It's over.

And I'm excited to maybe not be with you guys when the poll drops.

We have a pretty clear idea of who wins after, what, five minutes?

No, it's after memes starts burying the poll.

Yeah, that's true.

That's usually when we know.

But don't you guys agree?

It's tough when we're all in the same room.

You can't watch the numbers.

It's stress-inducing.

Okay.

Hank did a great job in theory with Monday's Mount Rushmore.

It didn't work out in our favor, but Hank has recommitted and he says he's all the way back.

So even though we finished third place after two first-place victories, I want to say for the record, I don't hold that against Hank.

Okay.

Thank you.

Love that.

Daenerys was, I had her tits clouded my judgment, and I shouldn't have taken her.

Bad pick.

I'll say this: that poll on Wednesday.

I thought people were going to be horned up and like, yeah, good pick.

That poll on Wednesday was as close as close could get.

So I don't even know if anyone can, because you were beating yourself up about the Aunt Becky pick because you pulled the trigger on that one in the second round.

It was a bad auto.

I don't think it was bad.

I think that poll was just showed that it was kind of up to chance and

memes bearing the poll.

That was pretty much all that was going to happen.

All right.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of chain restaurants.

Crazy, we haven't done this.

Rules are: no drive-thrus.

Yep.

Yep.

No drive-thrus.

Chain restaurants.

What's the order?

Are we first?

I believe you guys are up first.

Okay.

We're up second.

Yep.

Yeah, we're second.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Well, let's just get to it.

Our first pick.

I don't think it's going to be much of a surprise to anyone here.

We're going to go with chilies.

All right.

Chili's 1-1.

I still, as a 40-year-old, do my birthday at Chili's.

I love Chilis.

The

sit-down, get bottomless chips and salsa and queso instantly.

The menu's got everything.

Margarita is fantastic.

Yeah.

They also have the

fun games that you can play, like the, you know, those little portals that you can play little video games on.

Those are cool.

I saw a picture of some dude that made boots, like cowboy boots, out of the leather from a Chili's booth that they had, and it had like the Chili's pepper on it.

That's awesome.

It was fucking sick.

I wore a Chili's jersey on 4th of July that had the chicken wing.

We had it for the Three For Me contest.

One of the only sponsored, like, you know, we get them for a video shoot.

I kept it because it was such a cool jersey.

Yeah, I don't know if it should be like a depressing thing, but I did, because there's no Chili's in

Chicago.

I think there's one.

What was the one we got?

One outside, like 40 minutes away.

Yeah, so I got my whole family into the car as a 40-year-old.

and drove them all like an hour just so that I could get Fajita's Trios and bottomless chips.

Did they like it?

They did, but I think it was more special for me.

Yeah.

And my wife kind of gave me a look like that.

It's three little kids, and we just put them in the car at like six o'clock at night during rush hour so that you go to Chili's.

I'm like, yeah, that's the rules.

Worth it.

That's the rules around here.

All right.

You guys are up?

We are going to go with Applebee's.

Okay.

I think it's a safe pick.

Clubby.

Oh, you're going to say it's a safe pick.

Have you guys been to Applebee's?

Yes, we went as a team during Chili.

No, I know.

I'm just making sure.

They got the two for 20.

And waitress.

She was 25 now.

Awesome.

All time.

She was hot, too, but she was awesome.

Applebee's a good pick.

Safe pick.

Safe pick.

Good safe.

She was classy.

Safe elevated Chili.

She was elevated.

Yeah.

Safe pick, guys.

Safe pick.

Yeah, you went right down the middle.

That was like a.

You're not going to catch me complaining about Applebee's.

I think it's probably had second to third round value on my book, but you guys do it.

Yeah.

That was like a 240-yard drive down the middle.

Yeah.

Good job.

Place.

Didn't really fully swing.

So it's on us?

Yeah.

All right.

Number one, I'm going to go with Waffle House.

Okay.

Fucking love Waffle House.

Hank hates that pick.

I love it.

I love that pick.

We're going to get a tight shot on Hank's face.

Don't.

This is there.

Don't listen then.

They're trying to break us up.

Do you hate the pick?

I'd like to pick it up.

We're going to get a tight shot on Hank's face right when you made that pick.

I love the pick.

You're being.

I don't know if I can trust Hank.

That's what they want.

That's what they want.

Okay, number two.

Wait, can I tell your Waffle House story?

It's not really my story

to tell.

Okay.

But we can get into whatever.

Okay, all right.

I'll redact any names.

Fair.

Okay.

Super fair.

I asked a friend once,

they mentioned that

someone in their family worked at Waffle House for many years, and I asked that friend, I was like, hey, did that person ever see like a classic Waffle House fight?

And

they replied, well, actually, there was a triple homicide at the Waffle House they worked at and they had to clean up all the blood.

Tough night for their friends.

And

I bet they were only closed for like four hours.

Quick turnaround, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Waffle House is not the fight I was looking for.

I was thinking more like a throwing of a chair.

Yeah, maybe like the basket of eggs gets tossed.

I think the words execution style were said.

Okay.

All right.

That might just be the first one that comes to that guy's mind when he's thinking Waffle House.

But listen, if you had to pick anywhere to die, a Waffle House is a pretty good good spot.

In the freezer?

No, just like if I...

I believe he told us it was the walk-in freezer.

Oh, they got escorted into the walk-in freezer and shot?

Really grisly.

Yeah, it's not great.

I overheard.

Great restaurant, though.

Not going to dissuade me from going to Waffle House.

Great Waffles.

Love their sausage, the bowls that they have.

It's just a perfect place.

It's a great place.

All right.

Number two for us.

I'm going to go

Hooters.

Okay.

Hooters.

Change the game.

We're going to go Buffalo Wild Wings.

Okay.

Also had it on our list.

Good picks, boys.

Good picks.

I thought for sure that one of those two from PFT would be Buffalo Wild Wings.

It wasn't.

I took Hooters.

I know a guy like you doesn't like TFing, and I get that.

So Hooters might not appeal to you.

Sure.

This is kind of where the draft starts because that was...

In our pre-show discussion, we were like, hey, this is what's going to happen.

There's going to be a Hooters pick.

There's going to be a Buffalo Wild Wings pick.

We got to plan for this.

All right.

We ready?

We got to stay stay strong.

Don't break.

Can't break.

Cannot break.

All right.

We got him.

I think we go

three and six.

Six.

I like it.

All right.

We're going to go

out back.

Yep.

Outback.

I just showed that to memes.

That would have been our next pick.

Brown bread.

Fucking unbelievable.

So good.

Cooker Barrel Wings.

Oh.

Bloom and Onion.

Oh.

Yep.

Shane,

Bloomin' Onion.

Okay, he said no.

And then we're gonna go with the classic

Cracker Barrel.

Good pick, good paragraph.

Cracker Barrel.

Good pig.

Hey, we stayed strong.

We stayed strong.

Plus, you get the old country store.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

You guys buy so much shit from there.

The country store is great.

Did you ever do the tea game?

Oh, I get bodied by that.

Just playing Ignore Ray Mousse?

There's something about Cracker Barrel, too, where it's just like, I just always end up with some form of

gravy, and it's so good.

Yeah.

The white gravy?

Yeah, the white gravy.

Yeah, the white gravy is actually so fucking good.

Walk out there with some some Duck Dynasty merch.

Yeah.

Great spot.

Yeah, it really has everything.

You really don't have to go anywhere else.

It's like a waffle house if you have to take a shit.

Yeah, and you also take that way under back.

And there's a gift shop.

Yep.

You guys are up.

I know.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Were you going to go Cracker Barrel or Outback?

We were going to go Outback.

We were going to go Outback.

Cracker Barrel was on the list, but I don't think that's where we're going next.

All right, should we do the what you emphasize?

Oh, no.

I believe so.

Okay.

I mean, this is literally what, whatever.

What?

We're going to go to Cheesecake Factory.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Have you guys?

I have a question for you guys.

Good pick.

We had on our list.

Have you guys been in a Cheesecake Factory recently?

Yes.

I went to the mall a couple months ago, and I went to the Cheesecake Factory.

Okay, right.

Because I don't know if this is just a personal experience, but when I was growing up, Cheesecake Factory, to me, was like literally the nicest restaurant you could possibly go to.

It was like a birthday.

Yeah.

It was, it was fine dining.

It was like, holy shit, we're going to Cheesecake Factory.

I went to one and I was like, this is not what I remember.

It's a chain restaurant.

You go to it now and it's like, oh, in your head, in your kid head, you're like, well, like, you know, you're going, oh, you're going to go to Morton's?

You're going to go to get, oh, no, you're going to go to Cheesecake Factory.

Yeah.

You're going to go to Michelin, the Michelin star-rated Cheesecake Factory.

Well, it's great when you're a kid because they have everything on the menu.

Their menu is gigantic.

It's massive.

Overwhelming.

It's a little bit overwhelming.

I think I read one time they've never closed one down.

I don't know if they still have that record going, but yeah, I mean, they print money at a Cheesecake Factory.

Yeah.

Also, bread, awesome.

Oh, you know what, though?

I wish.

Which bread do you do?

I do the brown bread.

I do the baguette.

I like the bread.

Oh, we'd be perfect together.

We would.

They took away, though, a sandwich.

There was like a, I think it was like the fry bread.

Did you ever get that?

This is like

fry bread.

The Monte Cristo that they had?

Yeah, I don't know, but they didn't have it when I went, and I was very very upset.

I used to work there.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

The bus boy.

What was your favorite meal?

I like the burger.

They also have a bunch of pastas that are really good.

The Korean pasta.

A lot of the same cases.

They don't have anything bad.

We went through a phase of getting it delivered

often in the fall.

Yeah.

It's a good phase.

It's a really good phase.

It's a good phase.

Okay.

Phase up.

Phase up.

Zach's not allowed to talk about that.

Okay.

Our pick?

Yeah.

Shit.

All right, Hank, what do you like?

What do you like on this list?

I'm panicking a little bit.

I like, I'll tell you what I like.

I like number six.

I like number 10.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I like them both.

Do you like those?

All right, number six.

We're going Texas Roadhouse.

That was next for us.

Yeah.

Like Outback Steakhouse, but like a little bit of a southern twang to it.

Great place.

And then for our final pick, we're going to go with a classic.

When you're here, your family.

Yep.

Olive Garden.

Good pick.

Unlimited breadsticks, unlimited salad, unlimited soup.

Great place.

Good pick.

So that's an Italian pick.

I thought of it.

That's a good pick because that'll appeal to the masses and everything.

But

thank you.

Olive Garden is absolutely fucking disgusting.

As a true Italian, I could never get it.

As an Italian Italian.

But it's a great, but it's a good pick.

For the graphic, it's a great pick.

Unlimited breadsticks in real life

fucking clothes.

No, that's not a good thing.

Absolutely.

Front sticks are awesome.

It is

good.

No, the pasta is

probably about 20 minutes overcooked.

No, this pasta is so good.

The red sauce comes straight from the breast.

You've been spending this the entire 20 minutes in Mount Rushmore.

You're talking about bread.

The red sauce is a break.

You've been talking about bread.

And are you going to tell me that the breadsticks at Olive Garden are not good?

I'm telling you, it's a good pick.

It's great.

It's the best Sicilian sauce I've ever had.

I'm telling you, it's a good pick.

They actually call it gravy there because they're telling you it's a good pico.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

All right.

Good, good.

I like where we're at.

Thank you.

I like where we're at.

Which one?

Remember, I texted two?

Yeah.

The second one?

Oh, you think that one?

I think that one's more.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

We're going to go to TGI Fridays.

You know, they don't even have like an oven or a stove there.

They just microwave everything.

We thought they were close.

How can you possibly say that Olive Garden's bad food and then take TGI Fridays just in case you guys take it?

It's just the Italian in me.

It's bad Italian food.

Are you American?

Bar food.

Are you American?

Yeah.

Are you Italian?

Yes.

Are you America first?

Yes.

Well, then, how come you can't be offended to go to TGI Fridays as an American?

Because American food is meant to be had in a chain restaurant.

Oh, so you're now you're putting down America.

You're saying that American food's bad.

American is food.

Correct.

Italian food.

Food in Italy is better than food in America.

Italian food in Italy is better than American food in America.

Correct.

I have never been to Italy, but I imagine.

Oh.

Also,

not even a weekend?

Nope.

Fridays?

Oh, yeah.

Sure.

It's work week.

What are we going to do here?

I'm getting nervous.

Me too.

I'm very nervous.

It's just, we can't.

This one is kind of crazy.

I don't know if it's a.

I don't know.

Why is my fucking phone recording everything I say?

It's recording everything I say.

I know Alan Iverson once spent like $20,000 out of TJI Fridays.

What happened?

Alan Iverson once spent like $20,000 out of TJI Fridays.

Is that true?

Damn.

It might be true.

I'm like 85% positive it's true.

I'll look it up.

Fact check.

DJ Friday.

Fact checking.

Endless apps.

Female buddies running up like a family.

I've been checking that too.

I think that was Cheesecake Factory.

I think Max is mixing up his athlete stories.

I like it.

We don't know what to do.

We're going to pass.

What?

You're the last pick.

I know.

We're going to pass.

There's a full send pick that I might get contentious, but I don't.

Because it's the chain restaurant part.

Did you definitely chain restaurants?

Let me ask you guys a question.

Do chain restaurants also have like entertainment?

I think we had this.

We had thought about that.

We had this on our list, but we thought it was too much of a gray area.

It's a good pick.

It's a good pick.

No, you're just saying that now.

Well, I mean,

we're getting gasoline.

Also, I just sent you guys the

TJI Fridays.

The link that you sent, Alan Iverson denies a claim made by a former TV show.

I'm going to

that he spent $40,000 at a strip club when he was a 76er.

First of all, it was $9,000 at most.

Never any strippers at the TJI Fridays on City Line.

Yeah, so he spent 9,000, so it was $9,000 at the TJI Fridays.

I'm going to let you decide.

Oh boy.

Oh boy is right.

Okay.

Those are the two.

Those are the two.

And I'm going to let you just rip it and

we just go with what we got.

You also could go rogue.

You could go Rogue.

You could go Rogue.

No, because

I've seen his Rogue and

they were literally all drive-thrus.

Go Rogan.

They were all drive-thru.

Follow your hearts.

Seems did say Arby.

They were all drive-throughs.

Zach said Shake Shack.

Is that a drive-through?

There are drive-thruss.

We look at it.

Follow your hearts.

There are drive-thrus.

Listen to your hall.

We would like to take

Davin Buster's.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

It is a chain restaurant.

And they also have a lot of fun stuff there.

We had that on the list, too.

Okay.

It is a gray area.

Yeah.

It's a gray area.

What?

What's your your favorite meal

all the chili question me chili the green chili that was a great question by buffalo wings

pigs in a blanket wings always you could always say the buffalo waves i was waiting for got you on that one tinders the hamburger

ever heard of it all right good pick uh

are what i let zach decide between was that or pf changs yeah we had pf changs on the list too

yeah pf chang probably better pf changs kind of fell off i didn't think about that yeah it kind of fell off my My parents were at PF Changs before they came and met us on the RV the other night.

That's why they relate.

I wanted to take Subway on ours because I think it's the most popular restaurant in the world.

But PFT wanted Max to take it.

So we could call him a pedophile.

Wait, hold on.

Time out.

Wait, I want to hear what you said, but also, Zach's got to stop.

You just admitted to whatever.

You just admitted to playing to the graphic.

Zach also, yeah, well, they pander.

You just said I wanted to take Subway because it's the most popular restaurant in the world.

It also has nothing to do with whether you like Subway.

I do like Subsidy.

You just admitted to doing the same thing I did.

Max likes Subway.

Guess what?

Hank wasn't making the picks today.

He just admitted to wanting to do that.

Sorry, I missed that because Zach was whispering into the mic and my ear, which is probably not great for the podcast.

He kept on whispering, I've never been to a PF Janks.

So what did you guys say?

Hank put Subway on the list, and I said, no, let's not take Subway because I want Max to take Subway.

Gotcha.

Because then we can be like, okay, Jared.

And then memes can do a face swap of Jared and Max's face.

Why can't?

We can call him Pedophile.

Why don't we just do the face swap anyway?

Just to see what it looked like.

Let's do it.

That would actually be a great.

You talk about numbies.

You're a numbies guy, right?

That is good numbies.

That's big numbies.

That's good numbies.

You're just doing a face swap for something I didn't say.

Wait, no, you're on a diet, right?

You don't like Subway?

You said that you're on a diet.

I am on a diet.

So is Jared.

I tracked all of my calories today, starting today.

Jared was on a diet, too.

All right, what did we miss?

Benny Hanna?

Yep.

Benny Hanna, yep.

You guys fuck with California Pizza Kitchen?

I do.

I like California Pizza Kitchen.

It's pretty good.

Bread lobster was what we were going between for the last one.

But it was right after you were talking about bread, and it's basically just because of the cheddar biscuits.

Cheddar Bay Biscuits are so good.

Those are that's like we could do this rushmore just off of like the opening bread of the

medieval times, but I wasn't sure if that was a chain restaurant.

But I do love medieval times.

Yeah.

Never been.

Fudruckers.

You ever been to Fud Ruckers?

Yeah, Fud Ruckers.

That might be the go.

Regional, though.

After your youth sports season's over, that's where you have your team party.

Twin Peaks.

Twin Peaks, good.

Boobs.

Boobs.

Boobs.

wings boobs play wings and boobs tilted kilt tilted kilt what do you guys think about i hop i hop love

excellent love

i hop is great food i don't like cheese steaks yeah

it's too international

you think so yeah they got nothing

there's a couple there's a couple that i was like

thinking about that uh

that are like classier ones like uh

bonefish grill

oh yeah yeah bonefish grill or uh capital grill or Ruth's Chris.

Yeah.

But those are.

You don't really think chain restaurant when you think of those.

Would you have accepted Maggiano's?

I would have.

Yeah.

Maggiano's is better food than Olive Garden, for sure.

Buco de Pepe, great food.

Spaghetti factory.

Yeah.

I don't know the spaghetti factory.

Wiki Uno?

Elliot.

Chipotle.

Chipotle.

Chipotle and Panero are on our list.

Yeah, we could have

triggered Chipotle because that's fast food.

I like that we all kind of stuck with traditional.

Yes, Chipotle, I was thinking about, but it is fast food.

This was an honor play, except for

one gotta go.

Except what?

David Buster's little gray area, but one gotta go.

Waffle House,

I hop, Cracker Barrel, Denny's.

Denny's.

Denny's.

Denny's goes.

Gone.

Denny's gone.

I like the ball.

I'll talk to the worst chain restaurant in Golden Corral.

Fucking sucks.

Golden Corral,

here's what I like about Golden Corral.

They have everything in Golden Corral.

They've got the chocolate fountain at the end.

Dude, it changed your life.

Make you like probably 200 pounds fatter, But they have wheels on the chairs as you sit there, which I think is great because a lot of times people go to Golden Corral after they've been put into a wheelchair by eating too much at Golden Corral.

So it's like we're all in this together.

They don't feel shamed that they have to scoot around there because everybody's in those chairs.

Respect.

You guys fuck with Red Robins?

I've never even, I don't know if I've even been.

My grandma likes Red Robin.

I like Red Robins.

They got good, good fries, good burgers.

Endless fries.

Endless fries, bottomless.

I told Stephen Shea that I was going to Red Robin, and he said, when you go to Red Robin, the steamed broccoli is a must-buy.

And I was like, what do you mean, the steamed broccoli?

He's like, it's the best broccoli.

It's literally just steamed broccoli.

There's no seasoning,

there's no spices or anything on it.

You can get it.

That's a different dish that's like sauteed with the spices.

And Shea was like, no, you just get the pure steamed broccoli.

And I go through two to three of those every time I'm there.

He's

gross.

He's a gross man.

He's a Ruby Choose.

He's a gross man.

Ruby Choose is.

He's a great salad bar.

That's the best part of Ruby Choose.

the only part of it.

Yep.

I was

also like about a fat salad bar.

Yeah.

Like you go there and you're like, oh, I'm just going to get the salad bar and

you can get super fat off that salad.

I don't know if it would have played, but they're because it's kind of gone out.

But Pizza Hut, like, had a, that was kind of like a chain restaurant for a while where it was like more sit-down.

Yeah.

The Pizza Hut Buffet was the best.

Pizza Hut pizza.

That was my birthday meal.

Pizza Hut Buffet?

Just Pizza Hut Pizza.

Oh.

For my whole life.

Pizza Hut Buffet was so fucking good.

Dead Great Arcade Chain.

And the clock.

Yeah.

But I don't know if that's like

that's not really a chain restaurant.

What?

They had the clock.

What was the.

For your birthday?

The one you're...

What was the...

We got...

The Pizzadillas or something?

Yeah.

Pizza.

Pizzadillas.

Pizza Dillas.

Yeah, Papa John's.

That was Papa John's.

Yeah, yeah.

That hurt.

The Pazon?

Good job, Chaza.

Chaccaroni?

No, Wingstop.

Papadillas.

Wingstop?

I got Papadillas on my birthday.

I don't eat that much at Wingstop, but I've been told by like four or five people in the last month that Wingstop has good wings.

Yeah, it does.

Like legitimately good wings.

Yeah, they do.

They do.

I got to try it.

Here, you want to hear Zach's?

What do you got?

What do you guys feel about the AW Rubier place?

Probably fast food.

I like the Rupier.

Oh, the Quaker State, too.

You ever go to Quaker State?

I have.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

AW is also, I think, drive-through.

Yeah, we said it was fast food.

Fast food.

My bad, my bad.

My bad.

Can I throw out one that I just want to see what you guys would have said if we had picked it?

Because Zach was saying that this could play.

Coldstone Creamery.

Could have played.

We had Baskin-Robbins too on our list, but I just felt like because they didn't serve any meals,

it made it a little bit.

I wouldn't call it a restaurant.

I wouldn't call it either one of those restaurants.

Yeah.

Cinnabon.

Auntie Anne's.

Yeah.

Zach, maybe we'll do a different one where it's just

like

rest stops and

airports.

Yeah, because that's sprinkles cupcakes.

Oh, yeah.

Sprinkles.

I love sprinkles.

Yes, it's true.

Yes, I do.

Yes, it's true.

The best cupcakes in the world.

I love sprinkles.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

There's also some really good regional chains, but I don't think that that does well on a Mount Rushmore.

No.

Bertucci's was my favorite restaurant growing up.

They have those in Massachusetts, too, right?

Bertucci's was good.

Torches tacos.

That's like an expanded regional chain.

You took us there in Austin.

That was a a good place.

So good.

Bertucci's was literally like every time my parents were like, where do you want to go to dinner?

It was Bertucci's.

Yeah, it's 99.

Is that not a 99 restaurant?

99 reasons.

You always come back for more.

Gas.

Blaze pizza?

Oh, yeah.

Blaze pizza.

Mod pizza?

Which one is LeBron's?

Blaze is LeBron's.

Blaze is LeBron.

Pop Elliot's or no?

Captain DC food?

Popbellies and like.

It's like just a tweener.

Potbellies and Subway.

Jimmy John Popbelly's is different than Subway because

that's all not really restaurants.

No, but Pop Ellie's definitely

restaurant you have to get sat down by a hostess.

I agree with that, but Pop Ellies is definitely a tweener in the fact that like they'll have they'll have like live music.

Subway doesn't have live music.

But I hate the live music.

No, I agree, but I'm just saying that definitely steps it up.

And the wooden booths feel like it's a little bit different.

Yeah, Sam's Club Food Court is fantastic.

Oh, yeah.

But that's

close to what we're talking about.

Costco.

I was thinking no drive-through.

You're right about the fantastic.

Costco, the $1.50

hot dog.

Come on.

Jack, come on.

You're Jack.

Zach, I'm very proud of you the way you're holding the mic.

That was one rule that I said to him is that he really has to put the mic close to him, and he's doing a really good job.

Yeah.

I got you, man.

Too many acts around here.

Okay.

Tons of hacks.

I get it.

Sorry.

I'll make sure I'm correct to myself.

No, you're good.

I'm going to make sure to hold it nice and close.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's get to to our interviews.

We're going to go Jaden Daniels.

One question with the quarterback, Dan Quinn, and Debo Samuel from Commander's Camp.

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And now here he is, Jaden Daniels.

okay uh we now welcome on a very very very very very very very very special guest we're on the commanders practice uh field right now at training camp it is jaden daniels qb1 we're doing one question with the quarterback i'm gonna pass the pft he's gonna start us off and then we all are gonna do one question that's all you're right to start off with yeah all right my uh my question jaden is i love you

That's not a question, so if I were to rephrase it into a question, I would just say a lot of people ask you for stuff everybody's like you know you're in high demand they want you know your face on everything they want your autograph what can I do as a fan to make your life easier whether that's like wear the same jersey every weekend I mean if we win why won't you wear the same jersey keep it going yeah okay for the whole season I can do that what else do you need

I don't need much no nah not right you want any car not right now not right now okay I got a good car if you want one

1970 El Camino okay I love that you want it

you still driving it where's it at it's it's in chicago i'll give you the keys right now how am i gonna get the car what you gonna ship it that's a good point i'll ship it do you want if you want the car i will literally give you the keys

okay all right

good question pft

jaden uh a lot of talk this offseason about your 3d qb simulator have you ever thought about using it as a flight simulator And if so, would you like, you know, a friend to do it with you?

Hypothetically, I know a guy.

I have not tried it, but who do you know?

I just a friend who really, really loves planes and flight simulators.

You do?

Flight simulators are fun.

I think you have to be right behind Sam Harmon.

Okay, all right, that's fair.

That's fair.

I'll be the wizzo.

Yeah.

All right.

Good question, Hank.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good question, Hank.

Good question.

Hello, Jay, and thank you for your time today, man.

I was just a super quick question.

My bad, man.

Super quick question.

I was just wondering, from a fan's perspective, looking in, you have such an ability to keep things kind of cool and collected under pressure.

And I was just wondering if you had any tips for other guys who might want to keep it as cool as you?

Oh, man.

It's kind of hard.

No worries.

It's kind of hard.

Totally fun.

Yeah, just if you don't have any, it's good, man.

I'm just saying, you can calm down a little bit.

Yeah, I like that.

I appreciate the advice.

Be more nonchalant.

Okay, so to be nonchalant is what we're working for.

Okay, I got you.

Be nonchalant.

That's great advice.

Look up what kids call like aura.

You got to get some more aura.

Okay, we got aura farm.

100% aura farm.

Thank you for the advice, Jaden.

Yes, sir.

Good question, Zach.

Hi, Jaden.

Hi, Jaden.

Obviously, incredible season last year, but I feel like with that comes some added expectations going into this year.

Like, do you feel any more pressure that the entire media is calling you a top five quarterback now?

I don't even pay attention to that.

All right.

Good answer.

Good answer.

Good answer.

Bad question.

Good answer.

All right, last question.

We'll cut this.

We don't even have to run this.

The Hail Mary, that was lucky.

Let's just be two guys talking we'll cut this but two that was come on a little bit of luck it's better to be

football yeah right but so you admit it was like there was some luck involved i did my job okay which was throwing it short of the line give my guy a chance okay all right but a little bit of luck I'm gonna leave that up for speculation.

All right, all right.

Well, here, you can finish this off, PFT.

Okay, that was a great round of one question with the quarterback.

I think there were nine questions with this quarterback, but good luck, Jaden.

Happy birthday, Sam Hardman.

Happy birthday to Sam Hardman.

What a good teammate.

What a good teammate.

And seriously, like, if you need anybody to do any illegal shit to get your back, I'm your guy.

I appreciate it.

Like, I will get down dirty.

I, I, yeah,

let's not keep this off the record.

If you do anything that you need to pin on somebody else, but let's keep this off the record.

We won't even include this.

I'll go to jail.

Appreciate it.

I'll do it.

Much love, man.

Appreciate it.

Much love.

Appreciate y'all.

Respect.

And now for something completely different.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, recurring guest.

It is Grit Week presented by Hey Dude.

It is Washington Commander's head coach, Dan Quinn.

Coach, thank you for sitting with us.

First question

every interview on Grit Week is, what does the word grit mean to you?

I love the word.

First thing that pops to mind for grit, that you can get it on for a long time.

Okay.

Like it's not.

You know, do it once.

Okay.

Like you're down for the fight that it may take a while.

But like people that are gritty like this this might be hard but i'm down for the fight like takes me a long time to learn how to do this like that has grit you know it takes a long time to go in this game that takes grit so i think it has there's a time element in my mind of like i'm ready to get down how long ever it takes four quarters overtime parking lot like I'm down, whatever it takes.

Parking lot.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

It's never quitting.

Yes.

Yeah.

And that's what I think of when grit, like, not, not, this ain't done in a race and like, this is not 100 meters.

That's, you know, that's not the grit like this man this is gonna fight and it's gonna drag it out but it it has a time element in my head like it's gonna take a while i'm like but i'm gonna get it yeah let it fucking rip yep all the way is that is that your favorite thing to say uh no i think it's also like a mindset like when i say let it fucking rip like it's not like let's just see what happens like you put all the work in man and so like now you can go let it fucking rip because of all the preparation that you did like So there's confidence that comes from like putting in the work, long practices, putting extra training in, your conditioning, because then it's like, I wish a motherfucker would right now.

Like, I am ready.

And so you have to go through those tough training readiness to have like a mindset that's gritty to say like, the longer it goes, the better this is going to be for me.

Yeah.

And that's why we like these end of the games.

Like we practice them a lot, you know, because when it gets time to the end and like you have to call on your best and you have to like practice that way hard.

Yeah.

I got a question for you.

This might be weird, but like, do you lack in confidence ever as a coach?

Because like, so last year, incredible year coaching.

You get hired.

You're maybe not the sexiest name in terms of how the league has gone.

You know, it's like if you have a cup of coffee with Sean McVay, you get hired.

We know how it works.

You get hired and what you did for this franchise, this organization was incredible.

Did it build your confidence back up?

You're like, yeah, I know I can coach football.

Like, I know I can.

Yeah, I didn't have a lack of.

yeah um because i don't like the outside narratives or voices like i know that's like a thing but i do a standard of how to do it and so i was fortunate you know with adam being here like i wanted to have somebody partner up with and like bring the best out of both of us to go do that so but as far as confidence goes like that was internal you know to say that but you have to also like when you're starting a program like there's belief and sometimes the belief has to happen before it even like does does right like showing that like hey man you can do this and so that's what I liked about you know gaining confidence gaining belief with the team because it doesn't happen right away like you got to go through a three-game losing streak you know get back up off the mat and say all right man like let's go fight so the confidence didn't waver but um I think that's human nature, you know, sometimes where it goes up and down, like it's not going right, or in your head, you're like, why isn't this going faster?

Or, you know, so you just have to know that, like, keep doing it right.

And then like eventually.

Yeah.

And it's not easy all the time, but I think there's like an element of grit into that to say like, this is hard, but we're like, we're hitting the right steps.

Well, congrats because it was an incredible year.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

To do that as a first, obviously you've coached before, but to do it a first year at a new organization, it's like, it was incredible.

Yeah.

There's definitely some lessons I learned previously as a head coach to say like, if I get a chance, there's some different things we're going to apply.

And so as a coach, you want want to evolve too, you know, like, as opposed to, hey, man, this is how we always did it.

Like, I hate that line.

Right.

Like, like, what's best?

Yeah.

Evolving.

I read that you did a 360-degree review, right?

So after you left Atlanta.

Right.

And that involves reaching out to people that you worked with, maybe people that, I don't know if you, you fired or people that parted ways with you.

Both.

And you asked them, like, what was I doing wrong?

What could I work on?

What could I get a better name for it is a blind spot report.

Okay.

And think about asking people, man, hey, what would something that I need to know maybe that I'm not aware of?

And so think of it in that term, like, hey, man, keep doing this.

So there was definitely parts of like,

and then on the other side, hey, man, think about changing this or going back to that.

And it wasn't about anybody's name.

In fact, I asked not to have anybody's name.

I just wanted to find any common themes and say, man, like, was there some blind spots that I needed to know about?

Because sometimes as the coach, you know, you don't get the feedback and you want to make sure that you're like, I want the lessons from this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Was part of that being more aggressive on fourth down?

Because you were very aggressive on fourth down.

Was that part of the review where you're like, hey, we need to kind of change how I think about four downs and everything?

That's an awesome question.

It wasn't because

it was more around

what could I do better and different.

And the fourth downs weren't as big of it when I got let go, but that did evolve, you know, probably during my time in Dallas.

When do you be bold?

You know, what's the right decision?

And quite honestly, you know what's also a big factor, man?

Like the quarterback.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, like with Jaden, because some of the plays that went in weren't the play that actually happened.

You know, like he scrambled, you know, for a first down.

So he has the ability to create and a new one can take place.

You know, it wasn't like, you know, get to the best play or get to the best check, but his instincts and like in these moments like he is really strong yeah and so you'd be surprised man like coaches get confidence from players too yeah when when did you know that jaden was the guy

after our first game we played a home game against the giants well i'd say many times but it was my first like in-game experience we were uh you know down by field goal you know less than two minutes to go and like absolutely like i'm going over to walk to him before we get into the two minute and like smiling like absolutely knowing like this is that time and that feeling of like, man, I know I put the work in.

And like we drove down the field, we kicked a field goal to win.

But sometimes that moment you hear, whatever thinks best, you know, like they're two.

And he was like, man, let's go get this.

Like he was like, so cool, you know, underneath where I was like, okay, like this, this is a real one.

And then there were moments after that that you just kept seeing, but that was the first one.

And then from then on, it was like, and again, again, and all these cool moments.

And some are in the losses too,

that you gain from it.

But that was the first one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the Dallas loss, that was a crazy game.

Yeah.

Crazy in that game.

But that throw they added to Terry for that long touchdown, it felt like, okay, we're going to win this game now.

Yep.

That's a moment in a loss where you can say, okay, we did some really positive things in a game that we happened to lose at the end.

Yeah.

And those ones sting the worst.

Yeah.

I can almost live with any result when you hit every marker, you're like, man, turned over every stone, like hit it all right.

And so when there's some mistakes or things that you're like ah those are the losses that are like crushing to you as a coach because if you you hit all the right markers you like some games man it's back and forth it's just a kick-ass game you you lose by a field goal like that hurts but like it was a fight and you knew it the ones that like you know like turn the ball over, don't get takeaways, give up a big play, those are the ones that like, man, there's not a wink of sleep.

Yeah, you know, because you're like, shit.

With the fourth down stuff, is that going to change at all because your defense has changed?

So like when you got here last year, new roster brought in a lot of guys.

There was some turnover too, but the roster, I would say, you can look at it and say it's improved a bunch.

And even the defense last year over the course of the year improved a lot, which is a testament to you.

But is that going to affect how often you're going to go for a fourth down if you know you have a little bit more confidence on the defensive side?

We'll be bold.

Still, like, that's who we are.

That's how we get down.

And, you know, kind of referencing, you know, Jaden and Cliff and situations.

Oftentimes it's the opponent too.

Not everybody plays third and fourth down the same.

Sometimes it's like fourth down.

People want to put like 10 toes on the line, say, we're going to blitz.

This is it.

Other teams treat it just like third down.

And so

kicking scenario, defense, really just by like, what do we need to do to win this game?

And sometimes that means get an extra possession going forward on fourth, being bold enough to do that.

So it'll be by the game, but we're confident with the people that we have that if that's how we want to get down, then like we're ready to do that.

Danalytics.

That's what we call it.

Do you call it Danalytics?

We do not.

We 100% do not.

You should.

It's a good name.

We'll not call that the assistant.

Just call it a big ball.

What would 2025 Dan Quinn say to 2015 Dan Quinn after he kicked that field goal against the 49ers on the one-yard line?

Man.

You'd beat his ass, right?

Yes.

2025 Dan Quinn would beat 2015's ass.

100%.

Love that.

Now I feel full.

I know I brought it up last time you came on, but now it feels full circle because watching you this year so aggressive on fourth down.

We always joke when we're watching the games,

you should just do whatever the opposing fan doesn't want you to do.

Like, have you ever thought about that?

Maybe putting an opposing fan next to you and be like, what would you like me to do?

You want me to punt here?

All right, I'm going for it.

Oh, you want me to go for it?

I'm going to punt.

Because it usually is the right call.

I would say it probably is because they don't want that to happen.

Right, right.

Because there was moments this year where you guys were in like fourth and two.

We'd be watching Max and the Eagles fan.

You'd be like, I don't want them to go for it because they're going to get it.

You know, so it's like, that's, that's, you got to go for it.

There's a boldness with it, but it, um,

you do have to grow in it.

Like, and now that we do it more, it's scripted more in practice.

So it's part of what we do.

So there's not a tightness that comes up on the sideline of, hey, man, we're going for it here.

Okay.

You know, like, so like even in today, it was a, you know, first down, first down, second, third, fourth, and four.

Where normally you just kind of go to the third down and then, hey, new group comes out.

So we include our fourth downs downs into our practice so that is just part of how we how we do things smart it makes me feel comfortable knowing it's another fourth down play it's another fourth down play yeah can i ask you a favor yeah um

can you let us know when shark week is happening this year because that was kind of bullshit that we didn't know about shark week yes until

yeah we can get that out what what happens in shark week well i think the first thing um that like you know like sharks don't care what you know what week it is it's monday it was really hard the week before they don't sleep no they just go around biting people and reminding everybody that they're scary.

Yeah.

And so it usually comes up on like a cold.

It's a long road trip that took place.

And then all of a sudden Shark Week just emerges.

Like, you know, the sharks don't care that it was a five-hour flight back after the game.

The next week, they're just sharks.

They just go out and remind people that they bite them and they're scary and they get things done.

So it doesn't have a calendar.

date on it.

Okay.

It's a feel.

Yes.

Was there a moment where you almost brought out Shark Week and you're like, nah, it's not right.

Oh, you did?

And you can't, it doesn't really work to like do it twice in the same, you know, like it's like a yearly thing.

I've tried it twice in a year.

It's like, yeah, I've tried Shark Week.

So maybe in Spain?

Yeah, you don't know.

Maybe it's after Spain.

I don't know.

I mean, you got to just go by vibes against the dolphins, right?

Yeah.

Shark Week's natural enemies.

Let's see what happens the week before.

Yeah, I just need to know when Shark Week is.

It happens on a Monday.

So like you'll definitely have preparation time.

Yeah, I mean, there was the famous Mike McCarthy smashed a watermelon.

Were you on the Cowboys crew?

I was not.

Okay, yeah, but that, I was like, I need to know that before

that changes everything.

He stopped smashing watermelons, though?

Yes, during the time I was there, there wasn't any watermelon smash.

There was zero watermelon.

Did anyone encourage him to be like, hey, Mike, might be time for a watermelon?

I'm not sure.

How much would it hurt to know that maybe he did smash a watermelon while you were there, but he didn't invite you?

Yeah, it would hurt.

Okay, yeah, I would imagine.

That would really sting.

That would kill me.

Like, I didn't get invited to the watermelon smash?

That would sting bad.

Yeah.

There's one dude on the roster right now that I feel like exemplifies grit, at least in my eyes, and John Gruden's eyes too.

He loves this guy, Mikey Sanders still.

Yeah.

I remember after you visited him at Michigan, you said, that's a guy that I would love to coach.

Which is like a fascinating thing to hear somebody say.

Like you watch a player play and you're like, I want to coach that guy.

What was it about him that made you say, like, I want to make that guy better?

There was such an energy about him being around him.

He was running routes.

at the pro day with McCarthy and the other receivers

as a receiver and because he had played receiver there.

So, like, seeing the skill and the hand, like, it wasn't like a DB, hey, I'm just running go ball.

Like, he was running crossers and like real routes.

And I can imagine, I also asked one of the leaders on the team: if you could only bring one player from Michigan with you, who would it be?

And the guy was an offensive player, and he was like, Mikey, like, why are you asking me this question?

You know, like, like, everybody knows that.

And

there was

like you felt his love of football,

the leading, the playmaking abilities.

So I thought he had rare traits on the field, but he also had future leadership to him off the field.

Yeah.

Do you just let him rip out there?

We do.

He's a guy that's like, I trust you.

You're prepared.

If you see something, you have full permission to go.

Yeah, green like that.

Yeah.

All right, we got a couple last questions.

I know you got to run in a second.

In the NFC championship game, the tush push, how far were you willing to go with jumping over the line?

If the refs didn't get involved, involved, four quarters, you were just gone forever, we'd still be watching that.

Yes.

So I know they have the ability to grant that.

And I knew that going in.

So that was not a surprise to me.

But we do have an attitude that, like, we're never out of the fight.

And so there was a topic about the conversation of that play, and people asked me what my thoughts were.

And I spend way more time thinking about how are we going to stop it, not, you know, about the play.

Right.

And like give them credit to say, hey, this is like something that they do that is effective, but that's our job as coaches to say, how will we do it differently?

The one for Frankie going over the top was a technique to grab shoulder pads, pull them back, as opposed to trying to go underneath, you know, the offensive line with the size.

So there's definitely strategy involved.

Yeah.

You know, and saying like, this is how we are going to do this.

Because if he times it right, that's it.

You get it.

That's right.

And so when it's...

inside or at the one-yard line, it's worth it.

Yeah.

Like we're talking about offsides or a penalty of like, okay, it's right there.

You know, so now at midfield, maybe that's not the call, you know, where it could be a first down, but like talking about defending a touchdown, like this is worth it to take this type of risk in this spot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought it, I thought it was a good play call.

I didn't expect the refs to say, we're going to award a touchdown after doing it twice.

I thought that they would give you like three or four chances at it.

Yeah.

Think of it like

the jump just off sides.

Okay.

If you can't just keep being off sides, you know, they'll eventually just award it.

So I knew that was the case, case, but I felt like we will time it up.

And like doesn't mean we're not going to get it.

Like, I was thinking the other way, like, we're going to stop the next one.

Yeah.

This will be the stop.

Yeah.

I'm just not like, oh, they're going to score.

It was like, no, we're going to stop.

Yeah, we're going to jump it.

I'm thinking out loud here, and feel free to tell me I'm an idiot.

What if you just had everybody on the defensive line puke at the same time?

Right.

It's harder than you think on command.

Yeah.

You know, like maybe the big guys could do it, but like, I'm not sure Mikey could do that.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Probably that wouldn't be too much puke.

But I mean, you get like Deron Payne puking.

yeah you don't want to run into that public no it's way different yeah i don't think they'll flag you for it they wouldn't for sure not yeah but it's uh it's way harder than than you would think just like on command for sure yeah all right uh i my last question was just gonna be i love you yeah i love you i love everything that you've done for the city we don't tell our bros that we love each other right yeah and i know all the work that you put into and how hard it was and what do you say like it's fun to do hard shit with good people that's the truth and you did some hard shit with good people last year and we we really appreciate it all the commanders fans like thank you and we we love you thank you man i love you too man this is a team i would be dying to be a part of yeah they have so many cool guys that uh are all about it and like have really high standards and so they connect and the best teams have that and not just on the roster but i'm saying like they are connected and so during these times of camp you push it you're finding new roles for people

and

people develop and so a guy like senior still like

We're not asking him to become a leader.

We're developing that leader.

And I think there's a big difference in that because you don't just tell someone, hey, you lead now.

Like you train them, you teach them, and then they become a leader.

It's not, you know, it's just like practicing.

Like you have to learn how to do that.

If you just say, we want you to lead more, like, fuck, how do I do that?

You have to give them the tools to do that.

And Mikey

has done that and others have done that.

And so as much as coaching is, I'd like to develop the leaders here too.

They're not going to be leaders just in like football in their lives.

They're going to be leaders or businesses one day.

So like this is going to carry them out.

And not everybody leads in the same way.

Some is in the meeting room.

Some is on the field.

Some is in the locker room, but like there's a lot of them here.

Yeah.

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You said that one a couple times.

Oh, yeah.

Right on.

Oh, yeah.

I got it.

I got it.

I could call it into the huddle easily.

The new locker room.

Yeah.

Are we a little worried it's a little too nice?

We're not.

Okay.

Because, like, I saw some people saying it's like the four seasons and Ritz.

Like, was there part of you that was like, hey, let's take, let's maybe keep a little something back?

Maybe like have a toilet break or something.

Yeah, no, we were pretty grimy.

We were out in the spring using, you know, portable showers and trailers.

So, like, yeah, we haven't lost our grimy.

What about a ping-pong table?

Is there a ping-pong table?

Uh, there is not.

Okay, but you could add it and then take it away 100%.

Okay, yeah, because that's a great trick that every coach does.

Yeah, so much, so often.

That's how you know you're in the doghouse.

You took the ping pong table.

Get it out of there.

Trust White just wants a ping-pong table.

Yeah, he's excellent at it.

You don't have to create

like mandatory fun.

There's just spaces that people have.

And locker rooms are like that.

Sometimes meetings rooms are like that.

I've always felt like, and you can work your ass off, but like you can have like a really good time doing it.

Yeah.

Like they, they can cope.

They don't have to be in opposition of each other.

And so if one is just, hey, grind, beat down, like, you probably won't be able to sustain that.

And if you don't have discipline, like, hey, this is a good party, but like, you don't have the work, yeah, you're out of balance.

So that's probably what happens with some people.

I don't see too much of this, but just man, keep it consistent on both.

Like energy's high, work ethics high.

Like it doesn't get off track in one day.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like just watch it, man.

Like you'll, you'll see if somebody's trying to slip a corner once and twice, and then all of a sudden, like, that's the new standard.

Like, no, bro.

Like, so I try to keep my eyes open and say, hey, if I see it once, say, hey, what's that?

Yeah.

You know, and so you don't have to be an asshole, but you have to, you do have to point it out and say it.

So that ain't cool.

Be aware, yeah.

And before we started, me and Big Cat told you that we got tattoos here for the Commanders, Bears, Bets.

Yeah.

Based on who loses that game, you said you might want to pick the design the tattoo.

Yeah.

If we, I'm down.

I'd do it if it was a shark.

If that's shark week, if you make the

watermelon right now,

I can't claim that's Mike's, you know, like Mike's got to be the watermelon, but the shark has a lot.

Maybe.

Okay.

I'm not calling it shark week early.

I just want to make sure it's that.

I'm surprised.

You know,

that is something that's on the table for you.

All right.

Well, we'll be in touch after the game, and you can maybe

talk with you.

Maybe you can decide it.

Right off.

Yeah.

All right.

Thanks so much, Coach.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you guys.

And now for something completely different.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

It is Grit Week presented by Hey Dude.

It is Washington Commanders wide receiver, Debo Samuel.

And we start every Grit Week interview the same.

How would you define the word grit?

yeah it's just that dog mentality for real yeah do you have it oh for sure

when did you first know that you had grit oh is there a moment where you're like oh shit that's oh wow like you know when a kid grows like over a summer and they like get their growth spurt did you have like a grit spurt where you're like oh shit i got grit now nah i just always had that grit man you know since pop warner football yeah we played that real pop warner football

like lay on your back get up and go hit something yeah

you've had that dog.

What kind of dog would you say?

What breed?

I'm a rock roller.

I like that.

That's a good, sleek dog, strong dog, fit dog.

I was actually, I was looking at some of your tweets because you posted a video.

This was, I think, a couple months ago with screenshots from people that had said mean things about you online.

It was like a week ago.

Was it a week ago?

Yeah, yeah.

It was like a couple of days ago, actually.

So I have some of the screenshots, and we're just here to dispel all the rumors so the screenshot said Washington got slow fat ass Debo Samuel Debo Samuel is trash slow and fat anybody see Debo Samuel running a route looking slow as the ice cream truck and that was that was there you are not slow we saw you play today

not fat you're best shape of your life yeah for sure right now best shape of your life right now Was that partially because everyone called you fat online?

No.

Don't care.

Because that would put someone into a diet.

No.

Because there was a lot of people throwing.

Everybody got to have something to say, something to talk about.

Yeah.

That's just life.

I actually have a real question about the fat rumors because it was like you're at the 49ers, you have a great career with the 49ers, you get traded, and then that report comes out.

And it's like anonymous reporting that he's 25 pounds overweight.

You're like, what the hell?

Why are people now talking about this?

Have no idea.

Yeah.

It was kind of, you kind of were done dirty in that respect.

I mean, it's, it's, you know, it's the media.

So, you know, you don't really get into it.

Um,

they probably took a picture of me when I had fucking pneumonia, about to die out there, right?

Yeah, couldn't breathe, right?

Because that was the thing, too.

Last training camp, I remember there was a lot of talk about how you were looking like you know, fast and great shape, and then you unfortunately got pneumonia, and that kind of derailed me.

That came out of nowhere, yeah.

I swear, like, it was ridiculous.

How did you get pneumonia?

I feel like that's an old person's disease.

So, one night, I was literally, I was asleep, and like three o'clock in the morning, I just wake up and I'm just like coughing and i didn't go back to sleep but i stayed up until it was time to go for uh time to get ready to go for the game and so like me you know i never had pneumonia didn't know what it was i thought i just had a little cough and so uh i called my iv lady and she come give me iv do some breathing treatment and like you know trying to get back in motion to get ready for the game and so like i'm putting my clothes on and i feel myself like

Like I cannot breathe.

I'm like, what is wrong with me?

So I drive to the stadium and I'm just like, I don't know what's wrong.

I keep coughing.

It's hard for me to breathe.

They're just like, yeah, we do a lot of breathing treatment, give you IV.

Maybe you just need some food.

So I do all that.

I attempt to walk out the pregame and like my body's like, nah, you like, don't do it.

And so I instantly walk back in the locker room.

I get another IV and I get the feeling a little better.

So I go out there for the game.

I do like.

Three plays and like I feel like if I would have did another one I would have just cracked.

It was that bad.

Yeah, I went to Cal.

I was like, I don't know what's wrong, but I cannot breathe.

Holy shit.

How long did that take you to bounce back?

It took a while, but I left the hospital like three, four days afterwards, and then played the next week.

Yeah.

You're a tough guy.

That's a dog.

That's Grins.

Dog.

That's right.

That's Rockweller.

Yeah, absolutely.

I also feel like if you get the nickname Debo as a child, you probably already had that's confirmation.

Like, yeah, he is a dog.

How young were you when you got the nickname?

Probably like five or six.

So what were you doing at the age of five?

I feel like that's Debo.

I was just running around fighting, taking stuff from people.

My dad gave me that nickname.

And the crazy story is my stepmom was like, you know, when you get to college, nobody's calling you that.

And then I get to college.

Everybody still like Debo.

She used to hate it.

Yeah.

Didn't she try to change it?

She tried to give you sweet feet?

Yeah, but she called me Tasha Undo.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Debo.

Debo gave me sweet feet when I was playing pop warnaball.

Yeah, you don't fuck with a man named Debo.

That's my number one rule of thumb.

That's a fact.

I want to talk about college real quick.

So your third year, or was it your fourth year where you got injured?

you're about to have like oh it was it was crazy the so it goes the uh first game of the season first opening kickoff you run back for a touchdown i think the third game of the season you your first touch in the game you had like a 65 yard touchdown and then you got hurt i feel like you should just go around and be like i was about to score 40 touchdowns no thanks because first game first game of you know the opening kickoff i had three touchdowns and then the following game i had a kick return and then um i had another one and then opening play against kentucky you know first play of the game, slant to the crib.

I'm like, bro, this is about to get wicked.

I know.

So that's six touchdowns right there.

Like off the bat.

Yeah, two and a half games.

Yeah.

And then I run a curl route, and the guy jumps on my back and just

ankle just gets stuck and just boom.

All right, so we got to maybe we'll start the lore of like, do you know who the best college football player of all time was?

It was Debo Samuel when I played two and a half games that season.

You were the one with Heisman.

Yeah.

Oh, I was, I was, I was into my bag then.

I was in that mode.

Yeah.

I do have a question about your coach, Will Muschamp.

um why was he always wet huh always wet he just looked wet he was always wet and red he just looked wet you know what we're talking you know exactly what we're talking about like when the hair starts sticking

did he say hey debo one thing you gotta do for me is never talk about how wet i am

he gets he gets that confused look on his face and then he just gets redder and wetter picture of him he's wet

Like physically wet like trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Yaza gonna keep doubling down.

We're right.

We're right.

These are the things we notice.

You just never notice them?

I never pay attention to.

Maybe this is TV.

Maybe the TV adds like a bunch of water.

I feel like you got to look at some pictures and be like, damn, my coach wasn't wet.

So you Googled a wet must champ.

No, I would just see his press conference and be like, why is he wet?

Was it, did it rain?

No, it didn't rain.

He's just wet.

I am going to Google wet must champ right now.

That's going to be

a good window.

That's a great idea.

Are you a wideback still?

I'm a receiver.

Okay, so no more wideback.

I don't know yet.

Do you want to be wide back?

I'm a receiver right now.

Oh.

If you were to wave a magic wand.

I'm a receiver.

Okay.

Do widebacks get paid more money?

I don't know.

It's only one.

Who is it?

I don't know.

You tell me.

Wait, but you just said that you're not right now, but then you said

wide backs get paid more.

If I were to tell you that wide backs get paid more than wide receivers.

I'm a receiver, sir.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

You want to see this image of wet bus champions?

He is.

He's wet all the time.

I've never paid attention.

this.

You probably were more.

I said he was going to get on y'all ass about that.

That's fine.

I mean, listen, look.

I'll take him to court.

Look at that.

That's a wet guy.

Look how wet he is.

Listen, I'd go to court for this.

I would.

I'd be like, go ahead, release the documents.

You've been wet for like 20 years.

He doesn't want discovery on that.

It's only the tip of the iceberg.

Under the water, there's more.

Real question for you.

Do you need a fall guy?

Do I need a what?

Fall guy.

Like, anything goes wrong.

I'm volunteering to be your fall guy.

You got to pin anything on anybody.

That was smart because now you can ask them after when we turn off the cameras.

I don't need a fall guy.

Yeah.

Wink.

Yep.

That was smart, just like Will Musk Champ isn't wet.

Wink.

When you got your 2021 year was insane.

That was like,

you know, peak Debo.

Is that guy still there?

100%.

Is it going to be this year?

Hope so.

Okay.

Because like that, that was, I mean, I would just remember, you're such a joy to watch.

like i'm not a four uniters fan but i would just be like debo samuel what fan are you bears oh i'm not wearing the bears hat anymore uh i thought i had it on i had it on earlier the debo samuel catches runs runs through people just everything you did on the field it's electric do you like are you looking for contact when you get when you get the ball you're like i want to i don't necessarily say like i look for contact when it presents itself like i'm ready for it at all times but i'm not just gonna get the ball and just run straight into somebody yeah but if it's but if it presents itself, if it presents itself,

I'm always ready for it.

What's the key to you?

I mean, you're incredible at yards after catch, too.

What's the key to that?

Is there something?

Because not everyone has that.

You can't teach it.

Yeah.

So when did you know you had that?

So like growing up,

my father was my football coach.

And so always like, I used to panic when like I used to see one person and I just hear my daddy in his head, like in my head, like, if he tackle you, you're just not going to be good.

Like if one person tackle you, then we're going to have a problem.

So like that always been like my mentality and like everything i do like especially out there on the field like if one take one guy tackle me then like it's it's not a good play yeah that's a good mentality to have yeah it seems like you you're pissed off sometimes when you run ah it's just me it's just you love of the game man it's fun you are i think we gave an award like three years ago for football player that we most most like to watch play football I think you won that award.

Be having a good time.

Yeah, you're a joy to watch when you carry the ball.

Now, here in DC, it's a different offense, right?

Different from what Kyle was doing out on the West Coast.

How do you like it?

Smooth.

Real up tempo, no huddle.

Cliff do a good job of moving everybody around, so you never know what anybody's going to be.

And, you know, it's just, I think it's going to be hard for defenses.

Yeah.

How do you like playing with Jaden?

I love it.

He's pretty good.

Pretty good, yeah.

Yeah.

You had a nice route today against Sandra still.

I like Mikey.

Beat him on the seam.

Yeah, Big Cat came out there, and I was like, watch, Big Cat.

Debo's in awesome shape right now.

He goes, I'll be the judge of that next play.

Yeah, you look at the seam route.

Appreciate you.

Appreciate you.

Would you guys have beaten the Eagles in the NFC Championship game if Brock hadn't got hurt?

That was like, what, three years ago?

Yeah.

Leave it away or say it.

Okay.

That was a good answer.

I was trying to set it up because we have an Eagles fan here, so I wanted to get him mad because he gets upset when 49ers fans are like, we would have won that game.

Yeah.

How awesome is George Kittle, though, in the huddle?

And he's a friend of ours.

Is he as funny and like thoughtful of life in the huddle and on game days as it seems?

Because it sounds like he's a little kid out there.

So it's like, like, love George.

Yeah.

Awesome in the huddle, great player, person, everything.

Sometimes it'd be a little much when we'd be in a huddle and we could be losing sometimes, but he's still always the same, whether we're losing or winning.

And like, when we losing, he's still like the little jolly little kid in there.

And I'd be like, bro, we're losing right now.

Lock in.

But that's like him being locked in.

So it's just like, it's just him being him.

That's who he is.

I'd be like, me and Brock be like george come on get in the huddle he's

just you know that's a guy that likes contact george is great yeah george great he will run at somebody he's a he's a great dude uh when you when you got traded to the commanders did brand iu catch you up and be like hey man i was asking for the trade to the commanders for the last two seasons no you're you're a lucky guy nah how'd you find out uh my agent called me yeah were you were you surprised uh nah wasn't surprised um i actually was so crazy i was I was on the way to the tank and roach fight.

Uh, me and the bros had just landed in New York, and we was getting off the plane, and I see my phone ring.

I'm like, whoa, like, why is he calling me?

Like, it's probably like nine o'clock.

I'm like, why is he calling me right now?

It's nine o'clock.

You know, if your agent call you at a certain amount of time, like, like, what are you going?

And so he called me, he was like, yo, it's about to be done.

I'm like, what?

What happened?

And then, like, I just instantly got excited.

Cause like, him and AP would and, you know, guys was going back and forth of, you know, where I was going to end up.

And, you know, this is kind of home to me.

Well,

close as he can get besides, you know,

I got family in Baltimore and like it was, it was just a lot of excitement in that day, for sure.

Yeah.

All right.

I got one last question.

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Give us the amount of yards you're going to have this year.

You know, it's crazy.

My whole career, like, I've never been a guy to like make goals.

Okay.

Because I feel like if you make a goal, say if I say 1500, right?

And I'm at 12.

Yeah.

You're going to try to do so much like internally, but not like, like your mind is like, yo, you said you was going to get 15.

So like, just try to do extra.

And then that's when bad shit happens.

So I just go out there day by day, play by play, game by game, and let it just.

do what it's going to do.

What if we do the goals for you?

You can tell us if they're good or not.

I'd rather you keep them to yourself.

Okay.

Maybe you'll tweet them that was smart because one of my goals was going to be debo i was it was going to be debo samuel admits at will must champs wet

so you were you're smart on that one

we're about to say one yard huh what if i i just say one yard then

but not send you for failure one yard at a time yeah one play at a time yeah yeah but listen thank you for for joining us you are in very good shape

dispel all the rumors yeah hank our other producer here was saying you were fat right before you got in here swear to go Did he not say that?

He did.

Well, when we got on the practice field, Hank looked at you and then he looked at me and he was like,

Yeah.

He gave me that look and I was like, that dude is in better shape than you've ever dreamed of being.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we'll fight on your behalf.

If you're looking to run somebody over on the way out, that's your bitch right there.

Yeah.

Well, thank you, Debo.

We really appreciate it, man.

Best of luck to see you.

Yes, sir.

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Okay,

Fire Fest of the Week time, Grit Week finale.

Hank, you're up first, buddy.

Yeah, my fire fest of the week.

My best friend hates me.

That's one of them.

Damn.

Sometimes it'd be like that.

What's his name?

His name is

Daniel.

Oh,

I don't hate you.

I hate the decisions you make.

I don't hate you.

There's a big difference.

Should we talk about it?

We could talk about it.

Decision time.

It's kind of a group fire fest.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was.

It's not.

This could just be the entire fire fest.

Yes.

Well, Well, no, because

I also.

I have another one.

Okay, go with your other one first.

I screamed in your ear.

Well,

that's part of it.

No,

it's part of the overarching one is I've just realized, you know, I'm 32 years old and much like a child, like, if you get me in a moving vehicle, I will fall asleep.

No matter if I'm fully rested, if I'm tired, like.

If it's a car, if it's a plane, once that thing gets moving, even on a train, it gets going and I just fall asleep.

And that's something that...

Your mouth doesn't.

Maybe.

Your mouth keeps going.

Maybe, yeah, my mind is still cooking.

Mine never stops.

But, you know, I've realized that's maybe not a good thing.

I don't know.

It's probably bad.

It's probably a great thing.

You get to sleep all the time.

Yeah, but it just feels like, you know,

my brother and sister have kids.

And I'm like, oh, you know, you always hear like, oh, if your kids can't sleep, just get them in the car and drive them around.

Like, I'm basically still like that.

Next time you're grumpy, we're just going to put you in the back seat and just drive you around the block until you get in a better mood.

But yeah.

Okay.

Good Fire Fest.

And yeah, my best friend hates it.

I don't hate you.

All right, so we do the group firefest?

I think we should just do the group fire fest.

Okay, so we should put a disclaimer on the group fire fest.

First disclaimer is

we know that part of this story is not super relatable and it's probably.

Not gritty.

Not gritty, but also

when we did a packed three days and then we wanted to get back to make sure that we could film in Vanny Woodhead.

That was the whole plan because we got Vanny Woodhead fixed.

Shout out, Hank.

Good job, Hank.

There you go.

Shout out to Hank.

So we wanted to kind of go back to our roots with, so we needed to get back to Chicago.

So yeah, not very relatable, not very gritty, but

yeah, who wants to start?

All right, I'll start.

Okay.

I'll start.

So we were going to fly private back

late night on Wednesday night after we're done with the Eagles.

So great.

Great.

Oh, by the way, shout out all the fans.

Shout out everyone that came out.

It was great.

And Max's family came out, which was awesome because they all looked like a different version of Max.

And it broke me and Big Cat's brain

to the point where we were just, we would see a family member of Max's and we would just look at memes and be like, dude, you're such an asshole for all the face swaps.

Because they all looked like they were a face swap version of Max.

Like on so, like a real life, you would see someone be like, memes did it again with this guy.

They walked in.

I was like, I know you guys.

Yeah.

You're Maxes.

You're just a group of maxes.

So we leave the meet and greet, which was awesome.

Shout out to everybody that showed up.

Great people as always.

And we drove to the airport because we're going to fly private back.

So we get to the airport and the pilot comes over and the pilot is asking for all of our IDs.

You piece of shit.

We produce their IDs and he looks at all of them.

He's like, yeah, he looks at Big Cat's and he's like, this isn't real ID compliant because they made that switch a couple months ago.

And Big Cat's like, okay, I've got a picture of my passport.

If you can take that.

And the guy was like, I'm sorry, we can't accept that.

Got my clear card, got my TSA pre-check, just throwing documents at him.

So all of us happen to have either a real ID or we have passports that were in our book bags.

So he goes to the plane, gets all those out, checks them.

And we're thinking at the time, like,

he'll figure out a way to let Big Cat on the plane because...

Private pilot, you can just, when we flew out there, I think they looked at our IDs and they were like, okay, good.

That's all you guys.

Look at our ID.

They did did not even check our IDs when we flew out there.

But in the past, they've looked at IDs that were not real ID and been like, okay, that's Dan Katz.

Yep.

All good.

Let's get on the plane.

So then big cats start talking to the guy, be like, well, I've got my clear.

I've got all this stuff.

And he's like, you're not going to get on that plane.

So.

Well, wait, before that, he didn't, this is the part that really pisses me off with this guy.

He didn't say, you're not going to get on the plane.

He said, I have to make a call and talk to some people and see, giving me hope, giving me hope that i was going to get on the plane and also delaying my chances of getting on a different plane so he like prolonged the whole thing and there was never hope he had already made up his mind he's a piece of shit so uh big cat gets told no I get on the phone security mic and I'm like, hey, Mike, Big Cat's going to probably have to get out of here.

I don't know if he needs to go back to New York to catch a flight or what's going on, but he's not getting on this one.

So you should probably come back and pick him up.

Also, knowing that Mike is really good at just talking to people and Mike can talk his way into.

He's the best person at talking his way into things that I've ever seen in my entire life.

Facts.

Barnes.

So I was like, maybe you can just talk to the guy and figure out a way to get him on the plane.

So Mike comes back, shows up.

We were looking up some flights for Big Cat to see, is there a possibility that he can leave Philadelphia on his own?

So that leaves the rest of us and Big Cat's not in a great mood.

And he's like looking at his phone, trying to figure out what other flights he can get on, if that's possible.

Big Cat, I would have been in a bad mood too.

He was sitting over in the corner.

The rest of us are sitting there like, fuck, fuck, what do we do?

You helped.

I tried to help.

You were helpful.

I tried to help.

You had my back.

Max tried to help as well.

Max was looking at flights too.

And then we eventually realized that Big Cat cannot get on this plane.

And so

I did the internal calculation in my brain.

I was like, the flight's already been paid for.

Which is the craziest part that that guy wouldn't let me on the plane.

There's no chance that he's going to let Big Cat on this flight.

And Big Cat can't fly back private anyways if he doesn't have that ID, so he's going to fly back commercial.

It'd be a real shame if

we didn't get on the plane and fly home.

So

my regret, which I expect.

You have no regrets.

No, I express this to these guys on the plane.

I should have gone up and been like, Big Cat, I insist that we stay one more night right here by your side for a week.

And then you would have said...

I would have said absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

And then we would have gotten on the plane and flown out.

Yeah.

So, all right, so here's what I'll pick up.

up.

So this is, so this sucked beyond belief because it's like long week trying to get on the plane, paid for it, getting on the plane.

Guy says no, he's a total prick, just an absolute dick about it.

And I would never have told you guys not to get on that plane because obviously it's paid for.

I was in a situation, so I then I drove from Philadelphia to Newark, got to Newark, booked a 10 o'clock flight, back of the plane, and we want to say maybe won the grid award this week.

I don't know.

Maybe.

Maybe stop saying Diva Dan when you're taking naps everywhere.

Who is that?

Is that?

No, that's you.

That's you, Hank.

That's you, Hank.

Yeah.

I was sure you're talking to you.

Drove to Newark, drove to Newark, got through, which is the craziest part because I have clear NTSA, so no problem getting on a commercial flight.

Couldn't get on a private flight, could get on a commercial flight.

And then my flight was delayed for two and a half hours while we sat on the tarmac.

I got home at 3 a.m.

It was when I put my head to pillow.

Hank was asleep in his bed at 10.30 p.m.

I also then had to get up at 7.

No, you said before 11.

He also slept on the flight.

He slept on the flight as well.

And really, again,

all I wanted in that moment of I was just shit out of luck.

Obviously, I put some blame on myself because I should have real ID, but

if they had been consistent flying to Philadelphia or to Baltimore on Sunday, if they had said, hey, you need a passport, I would have been like, great, I'll go home, get my passport.

We'll leave in an hour.

They didn't say that.

They didn't even check an ID.

So the consistency was what fucked me there.

I will obviously always travel with my passport going forward.

All I needed in that moment was for just my guys to be like, hey, we're not getting on this flight.

And I would have been like, no, you got to get on this flight.

And then I would have been fine.

It would have been great.

But then I spent the next seven hours in hell

knowing, knowing that they had already landed and Hank was already asleep.

So we get on the plane and we were all thinking the same thing.

And then we said, fuck it, let's just talk about it.

If the plane had crashed, no cat would have been secretly hacked.

Nope, nope.

But what a moment that would have been.

No.

I told you guys, my honesty.

You're not thinking about the moment.

Like, if you all go down, you weren't allowed on the plane.

And you're like, no.

For the

crazy survivor guilt.

I actually, the only two things I was thinking about plane crashes was,

can your guys plane crash and only the pilot die?

And then

can my plane crash so you guys have survival crashes?

We talked about that too.

That's what I wanted.

So I was ready to die.

We talked about that.

We said if our plane crashed, and then Max was like, I kind of hope that her plane crashed.

No, I do not want you guys to crash.

And then memes goes, fuck that.

Better him than me.

Yeah, memes is a piece of shit, too.

And he didn't say anything.

But beyond, be honest, big cat, because we talked about this.

If our plane had gone down, would there have been a podcast on Friday?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it would have been awesome.

And then I said,

I would have fucking shit on Hank.

Yeah.

And I would have,

I said, guys, if Big Cat's, what if Big Cat's plane crashes, the one that he was forced on?

That would have been awesome.

I said, we got to put out a podcast Friday because Big Cat would have won us.

Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Yeah, so the whole situation sucked.

Again, this is not like super relatable.

It was just more like this is a shitty end to Grit Week and also Hank.

Then, so

I got,

I was mad.

I was mad.

I actually said,

speak to me, walked in the office and walked past me five times.

I didn't want to talk to you.

We had a meeting that we were in together.

I was smiling, and you go, I wasn't.

You sent me a text in the morning going, hey, we got a bunch of tasers.

I was trying to move it forward.

Okay, well, but you could have just said, hey, my bad.

My bad for what?

See, this is the part that sucks because even PFT is like, hey, we probably should have just said, hey, we'll stick around.

I 100% would have said, no, you cannot stay.

You have to go.

Hank then said to me that the reason why he didn't say anything is because I didn't say goodbye to him when I was trying to fucking rush and get a flight to Newark.

God damn it, I should have said goodbye to Diva Hank, who was just sitting there, not saying shit, getting ready to sleep on his plane

and then get on his flight.

I was hoping that he had a flight.

I was there for an hour.

I was there for an hour fighting for my life and not a peep from Hank.

I think he was eating his snacks.

Oh, I wasn't.

He's not eating snacks.

I think he had snacks that we left.

I think it's snacks on the left.

Yeah, exactly.

I thought

I thought that we were going to find a way to get you on the flight.

Spider was on the phone.

Mike was talking to the guy.

It wasn't like, even though the guy was like, you're probably not getting this flight, I had not given up hope.

I regret not going up and trying to help.

I just

didn't want help.

I should have, I should have.

I didn't want help.

I should have texted you and said,

sorry, you're not on this flight.

That's also the other thing.

I misjudged the situation.

I misjudged the situation.

The only one who didn't text me in the entire

Vanny right now who didn't text me was Hank.

Well, everyone else texted me saying, like, sorry, that sucked.

PFT didn't text till we landed, and Max had texted you on the plane and was like,

he hasn't answered me, so I don't want to piss you off more.

I misjudged the situation.

Memes answered.

I apologize.

Well, PFT didn't text you until after we landed, and when we talked about the plane,

he was texting me during when I was when I was driving up to Newark, so that's not true.

Yeah.

I was answering him then.

So that's just false.

You're lying

on the plane flight.

You're lying.

On the plane.

Early on the plane flight.

Well, I misjudged that situation back.

I'm very sorry.

Earlier on the plane flight, memes had texted with you about something unrelated.

You were like, I don't know what you guys were discussing, but you had texted memes at some point.

And then Max was getting really, really nervous because you hadn't texted him back.

So then I decided it would be a great thing for me to do to lie to Max and say, yeah, I've been texting Big Cat this whole time, making Max feel worse about not getting a text.

I was anxious.

So then I was lying about that, and then that got Max all worked up.

He started talking loudly, and then that woke Hank up.

And then Hank got involved and got Diva Hank to get involved.

He was so mad at him.

waking him up he's got a fly but he's got to fly private he's got to sleep so I'll never fly private what we I feel so bad I I

you don't I misjudged the situation here's why you don't feel bad here's why you don't feel bad and I'll tell you because I so last night I was very mad I the delay was it what killed me I didn't get in until three if I got in at 11 I actually probably would have been like okay that sucked but whatever

I came in today.

I was like, you guys saw right away.

I came in.

I was like, what's up, PJ boys?

You didn't say anything to me.

I'm joking about it.

And then,

your first thing you said to me when we started talking about it, you said, You didn't say goodbye.

And I was like, That's no, no, no, no, no.

You were like, You didn't come up and say anything.

And I was like, Yeah, and you said, You didn't say goodbye.

Well, we were waiting.

My point,

my point was, like, if you would come up and be like, Yeah, I'm not making this fight, I got to go.

Maybe someone would say, Well, should we me and memes had said, like, should we all drive to Chicago?

Was there, was there ever, like, that hour that I was sitting there, it was very clear I wasn't making that flight.

But, me, but like, it was very clear.

Yeah, it was all holding on hope.

It was a problem.

Like, Mike was our whatever.

As soon as he said no to to Mike is when I thought that

there was ample time, so I should have said goodbye.

There's ample time that you guys all knew that I was fucked.

I fucked up.

I'm very sorry.

I got to know what to say.

The goodbye thing, I meant like you, like, you were like, you didn't say anything.

And I was like, if you had said, like, when we knew you were leaving for sure, we might have been like, hey, we won't get on this flight.

That was where I fucked up saying that.

I fucked up not texting you, even though you didn't text Max back.

And I'm sorry.

I misjudged the situation.

I thought texting you would piss you off more.

So I

actually pissed you off even more by not texting you.

Actually, the only reason I was talking about that.

I misjudged the situation, and now it's a fuck up.

Max back because Max, memes was like, this sucked.

Zach was like, this sucked.

PFT was like, this sucked.

Max texted me being like, I should have stayed.

And I was like, well, you're already in the air.

I knew that's, it's too late for that.

Yeah, that was why I didn't text Max.

When Max told me that's what he said, I was like, yeah, yeah, dude, that's great.

Be like, if I could change places with you,

I would.

Yeah, all I needed was

that.

All I needed was that that fucking sucked.

Also, shout out to Zach because Zach was sitting next to me and

he like typed out text messages constantly for about 30 minutes and then deleted them.

He was just typing them all out and then deleting them.

Can I

settle on, Zach?

He said

that was a terrible situation.

Like, I'm sorry that happened.

All I want, because I'm not mad, I'm happy we talked about it.

All I want is can we do a vote?

It should be D.Va Hank now, right?

It's Diva.

It's always been Diva Hank.

But

you got a lot of of sleep.

It's also impossible to argue against Hank because you just become a real-life version of the meme of those ladies screaming, and then Hank's just the cat looking back at you.

And he's napping.

And he's napping.

Yeah.

Yeah, Diva Hank.

Yeah,

it was a tough,

whatever.

We made through it.

We're good.

I won the grid award this week.

Be honest, though, if our plane had crashed,

there would have been a moment where you've been like, I swear to God.

No, because the survivor guilt would have killed me.

I just wanted the pilot to die.

The weather was also bad.

Oh, my God, are you okay?

No, but I'm saying there was a point where we all looked at each other where we were like, this isn't a joke.

This could happen.

Hey, Max, I flew through the same weather just like seven hours later.

I made peace with you.

I'm not saying that as like it.

I'm just saying that we were talking about it and then it almost happened.

I was the one who said I wanted to land in Indy.

Yeah, it's true.

I preferred to land in Indy and not get here until that was what we came up with.

We said when we were descending, we're like, it would actually be the best if we weren't able to land.

they diverted us to a nearby hotel or a nearby state and then we had to stay overnight and then drive back or whatever that would have been the perfect situation then zach was like yeah like if we had to land in nevada i was like yeah

so far

all right hank are we good i love you i love you too i'm sorry i think we should two rules i'm sorry i didn't say goodbye rule number one i'm sorry i didn't stay back i didn't want i would never you guys know deep down i would never make i was even thinking about it.

I was like, I was like, fuck.

I could have stayed back.

We could have got dinner with big, we could have got dinner with Big Dom.

And we could have made a nice night out of it.

And I sometimes you just got to do that dance.

I know.

I'll pay.

Yeah.

I would never have made you guys fucking stay.

It was always, you got to get on that plane.

We should have drove.

That's what me and Memes were saying.

And I was like, man,

I looked at drive.

All right, so rule number one.

No more danger.

Diva hang.

No more diva.

Rule number one, diva hay.

Rule number two, we always say goodbye.

We always say goodbye.

We always say goodbye.

Rule number three, I got to make sure I bring my passport with me all the time.

Rule number four, fuck that pilot.

Rule number five, fucking sleeping.

Don't talk when Hank is sleeping.

Don't talk when Hank is sleeping.

Rule number six.

I actually was fucking screaming.

I did.

I was anxious.

I did think to myself, though, like, if this pilot is being such a dickhead, he's probably a super safe pilot.

We're not going to crash.

True.

True.

He knew what was good by the end.

He like waited to get up out of the seat.

Because you guys gave him the business.

That's what I said to memes.

I was like, hey,

all you can do, I was like, all you can do for me is just tell that pilot he's a piece of shit.

So here's what Zach detected.

Do you want to say what you said when the plane landed?

I remember most of it.

So

I just tried to reiterate to the pilot, like, you know, goodness, you know, somebody works hard all week.

They just want to get back to their family, their wives, their children.

But you said it to us, but you were angry towards the pilot.

Yes, loudly.

So you said, man, I really just feel bad for Big Cat.

Somebody works so so hard all week.

They want to get home.

Their wife, they've got three kids.

It's just a bad situation that he was put into.

Somebody made a judgment call off a sticker.

Yeah.

That was a line.

That was a line.

Yeah.

What did you say, memes?

So my ears were hurting.

So I was like, oh, God, I'm sorry.

No, no, but I was screaming everything I was talking about.

So I was like, yeah, we found this guy's Instagram.

I think he's a cat guy.

Oh, yeah.

That guy really threw a wrench in our relationship for

that moment.

Yeah.

It is first world problems.

No, that's the thing.

I don't want to like, that was the part, too, where I was like, I can't even tweet about this because you can't complain about the situation.

There's no one to know.

I know how lucky we are and how lucky I am.

And so it was one bad night.

I just had to get through it.

A little grit.

I swear to God, if that fucking, that, that second, the commercial flight I took, if it just hadn't been delayed, I would have been home like maybe two hours after you guys.

And I would have been like, all right, that sucked, but I'm good.

It was the sitting on the tarmac for three hours fucking killed me.

Uh, nice hiccup.

Do we have any other fire fests?

Do you anyone have a personal fire fest?

I think that's good, good pod fire fest, yeah, I think that's good.

Yeah, it was a good grit week, it was a great grit week.

That fucking pilot could get fucked.

He really should have hit him, yeah.

It was such a good week.

I could have taken him.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, easily, easily, right?

I thought about hijacking it.

He hid behind the wings, 100%.

Yeah, he hid after.

No, I'm just saying,

He hid behind the uniform.

Definitely.

I really, and it really was like

just an avalanche of events where if he had just given me the straight answer right away, I would have been like, all right, see you guys.

Like, I can get on a flight right now.

Appreciated that.

Yeah.

And I would have said goodbye in that situation.

It would have just been like, and you would have been like, oh, let's not go.

We do our hugs.

I'm like, no, you have to go, dude.

Danny would go.

Let's drive.

What is that?

What's the surfer?

Oh, the one where they say.

Eddie would go.

Eddie would go.

Yeah.

I would have given you guys that.

I would have been like, Eddie would go.

You got to go.

All right.

Great grit week, boys.

Great grit week.

Happy we got back to Vanny Woodhead.

Doesn't this feel good?

It does feel good.

It feels like home.

I love you.

I love you.

You also knew that it was not going to be like a mad for weeks.

It was going to be

like 12 hours.

You gave me the hardest cold shoulder this morning.

I did, because I was giving you the hardest

was Jerry.

Jerry added to all of this.

Well, yeah, driving.

I was feeling Jerry out, and then I I knew.

I was like, I think this is related.

And then Jerry and Big Cow were in the same room.

I was like, Jerry,

why am I dead to you?

Jerry didn't say a word.

Big Cat walked away.

I was like, oh, yeah, this is related.

Yeah, the other part of this story that maybe elevated this whole thing is I got back in the car with security guard Mike, who is one of our favorite guys, and he's the best.

Keeps us safe.

He's a former NYPD detective, like Staten Island guy, tough guy.

And he just, from Philly to Newark, just ranted the whole time about how there's no loyalty left.

And it's bullshit that none of those guys got off the flight.

And he just worked me into a lather.

I was like, yeah, it is bullshit.

I didn't even think about it until he started going.

And then Jerry called him on speakerphone and Jerry was like, what's the deal?

Hank's dead to me.

He actually said he's going to snap your driver.

Yeah, no, he texted me.

He's like, I'm dead to you.

And then I called him 20 times and was like giving him every...

Oh, so you called him, but not me?

This is when I landed.

Yeah, I was like, well, I was like, I was trying to figure out if they were related or not.

And then, yeah, they were.

Yeah.

All right.

Should we do.

Well, no, I texted him.

I'm like, why?

And then I'm like, are we still golfing Friday?

He's like, yeah.

And then I was like, yeah,

he said, I'm going to snap Hank's driver over my fucking knee.

All right.

Numbers?

Three.

You want me to go FaceTime from inside?

I think we should do it from in here.

I think it'll be fine.

Yeah.

21.

I'm going to do 85.

19.

What's wrong?

21.

47.

47.

15.

15.

What was your number?

21.

21.

FaceTime me, Max.

LT, Jet Legend.

Great week, boys.

Great week.

I'm sorry.

Great week.

Does anyone have any other Firefests?

Oh, my other Firefest.

Shit.

Max just left.

The fact that he might be a,

you know.

You know.

My other Firefest is Max might be a, you know.

You know.

You know.

I called PFT little guy.

What?

Oh, you're on?

I can hear you.

Yeah, we need need to get a truce on this.

All right.

Here he goes.

What was your other Firefest memes?

I call my boss PFT, the little guy.

That was funny.

That's funny, though.

Chris, say a number.

No, say one.

73.

73 is his guess.

78.

78.

Imagine if you got it, memes, in your fucking face.

That'd have been awesome.

All right.

Great grit week, boys.

Love grit week.

Vanny's back.

Vanny's all the way back.

Love you guys.

Bye, Hank.

Goodbye, Hank.

Bye, Hank.

Everyone say bye to Hank.

Goodbye.

Is there anything else you want to say?

Goodbye.

I love you guys.

Okay, great.

Love you guys.

Say goodbye.

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