Charles Barkley, Grit Week Has Begun, Mt Rushmore Of Things That Begin With G, Plus Happy Gilmore 2 Review

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Speaker 1 The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good. On today's part of my take, it is grit week.
We are in the RV and we have an all-time interview with Charles Barkley.

Speaker 1 Probably, I'll say it was a white whale. And unbelievable interview.

Speaker 1 Wish it had gone for like six hours.

Speaker 2 The round mound of rebound. Yeah.
He was incredible. He was as advertised.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, really, really good interview. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of words and start with G for grit, but grit is not allowed to be picked.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the weekend. Hank's got a UFC recap.
We have training camp. Terry might be a camp.

Speaker 1 Holding in. And then we're going to finish the show with a review of Happy Gilmore 2 because everyone's talking about it.

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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, July 28th, and it is grit week, boys. Loving it.
We're on the RV.

Speaker 2 The best week of the year.

Speaker 1 We are in a weird setting,

Speaker 1 piled in here. Max is over my shoulder.
I feel like I'm on a sitcom where he's like the guy who's just standing over my shoulder.

Speaker 2 He's leaning very cutely on the couch, though. Like he's watching us like, you're doing great, sweetie.
Stop.

Speaker 1 Stop. Stop.
Stop it. Love Baltimore, though.
Love Baltimore. Great city.

Speaker 2 Went to the Inner Harbor. Went down to Pussers.
Pussers. Pussers bar.
Saw a lot of AWS.

Speaker 1 Pussers.

Speaker 2 The meet and greet that we did today had the most babies that I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 And I think one guy said that he has a kid who was born on the day that part of my take debuted.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he didn't bring his kid.

Speaker 1 He's nine now. And I said that when he, if we do this for another 10 years, we'll hire him as an intern.
Yeah, we have to. We have to do it.

Speaker 2 I'm going to buy that kid his first beer.

Speaker 1 It was the most.

Speaker 1 It was very Baltimore. Most babies, most tattoos.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we hit both those boxes.

Speaker 2 A lot of tattoos. A lot of the pants, the Ravens' pants showed up big time today.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 A lot of Orioles oreoles paraphernalia orio sneaky have like the best color scheme in baseball yes and logo yeah yeah uh so yeah it's great being in baltimore we're gonna hit some training camps this week we're on the rv what are you what are you giggling about are you hitting my shoulder i was not giggling like i don't like max can you i was not giggling

Speaker 1 i got eyes

Speaker 1 i got eyes on him all right because i don't trust him behind me

Speaker 1 now i want to yeah we're all right so we're we're on the bus we have charles barkley which was

Speaker 2 so awesome if you like stories about getting things stuck in your ass, getting things stuck in your belly button, I mean, it started off hot. And shout out to Zach.

Speaker 2 Zach was Johnny on the spot for Charles. You'll hear it during the interview, but he misplaced something and Zach picked it up for him.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I think I was happy to grab that for him. Also,

Speaker 1 the way we got Charles on the show, we shout out Biz. He's our guy.
Yep. Got me a mutual connection that I was able to talk to.

Speaker 1 And we also did a strategy where we're like, hey, so this was during Tahoe week. We We sat on it for two weeks.
We wanted to run it, but it was just like, we have to save it for Grit Week.

Speaker 1 He's the perfect guy.

Speaker 1 PFT and I were like, we got to just get in front of Charles Barkley because once we introduce ourselves, I think he'll do it.

Speaker 1 And we just went to the high limit room at Hara's and it was like a field of dreams thing where we just waited there for like 15 minutes and then he just appeared.

Speaker 2 I think it was even less than 15. I think it was like five or 10 minutes.
He showed up. He started playing Blackjack and he introduced himself to everybody in the room.
He's like, hey, I'm Charles.

Speaker 2 You can call me Chuck. Yeah.
To everybody in the room. great guy.
And me and Big Cat both shook his hand. We're like, hey, we did the part of my take podcast.
We're trying to get you on.

Speaker 2 And he goes, yeah, let's do it. And then just like moved on.
Yeah. And I thought I was like, I don't know if he's going to actually do this.
But credit to Biz.

Speaker 2 Biz also hit me up the day after and wanted to talk to me about what it was like to talk to Charles Barkley. That's how much he likes talking to Charles Barkley.

Speaker 2 He's like, He's like, So, what was it like trying it for your first time? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You love it? It was

Speaker 1 more. I want some more.
It was like Hunter Biden explaining crack.

Speaker 2 It was so good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was in Kraus. So pure.

Speaker 2 Also, shout out to Zach because because at the meet and greet tonight, we showed up.

Speaker 2 Zach rolled in a little bit after us, and Zach waited in line outside the meet and greet to get into your own meet and greet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, there was, there's also like a restaurant situation going on, so you're not sure are these people

Speaker 2 at pussers, pusses, pussers, yes.

Speaker 1 So the line was, you could see it inside. I wasn't sure if it carried outside.

Speaker 1 We did confirm that was the line outside. Yeah, we were sitting inside for like 20 minutes, and I just get a text from Zach saying, hey, I'm waiting in line.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're part of the show, dude. Bad comms.
Yeah, that's on me.

Speaker 2 I love the Baltimore accent, too, of the people that were coming up to us tonight. It's like the hardest to imitate unless you're from here, but it sounds so cool.

Speaker 1 So cool. So, yeah, awesome Charles Barkley interview.
Great week. Shout out Craig, by the way.
That's Charles Barkley's friend who

Speaker 1 I did harass him over text and in person, but he came through. So we're excited for the AWLC.

Speaker 1 We should have had him on years ago. Hopefully we can have him on multiple times because we both, there's few interviews where we walk away like smiling ear to ear.

Speaker 1 That's how I walked away from the Charles Charles Markle.

Speaker 2 It was great smiling ear to ear. And I'll just say this.
Charles looks great. He does.

Speaker 2 He looks skinny.

Speaker 1 He looks really good. Should we talk some sports, some ball? Let's talk ball.
Okay. Football's back.

Speaker 2 Football is back. Guys, there's football this week.
There is football this week.

Speaker 1 Terry's a camp.

Speaker 2 He's holding in.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's a good thing for you.

Speaker 2 It's gone from a hold out to a hold in. He is there, but he's on the pup list because he's got an ankle that he's dealing with.

Speaker 2 An ankle that I'm sure is 100% a real injury and not just something that they're using as an excuse. But it sounds like both sides are in agreement.

Speaker 2 Terry's like, I'll come to camp, but don't make me practice. Give me a bogus injury.
So they're both kind of playing ball.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Right? That's good. My mission is when we go down to DC, I will personally sign Terry McLaurin.
Okay. I'll personally sign him.
That's my mission on Tuesday. Because we are.

Speaker 1 We're going to be in D.C. We're doing Ravens' camp.
We're doing Commander's Camp. We're doing Eagles' camp.

Speaker 1 I just love being in camp.

Speaker 1 This is one of those things that it never gets old where we show up to these camps to to do interviews and then there's always like maybe 45 minutes where the guys have to set everything up.

Speaker 1 And PFT and I get to just stand on the grass

Speaker 2 and just watch and smell. And it's fucking awesome.
It's great.

Speaker 2 Can I share a deep fear that I have?

Speaker 2 I told this to memes and Pug earlier when we're getting ready to fly out here.

Speaker 2 I've been very nervous about meeting Jaden, about the handshake, about the very first interaction.

Speaker 2 I've been rehearsing it in my mind. I've been running through all the iterations.
I'm trying to figure out the perfect things to say to Jaden. It's very, there's a lot going through my head.

Speaker 1 What if he goes pound?

Speaker 1 I'll have to adapt. You didn't even think about it.
I'll have to adapt. You didn't even think about it.

Speaker 2 I would be pumped with a pound because you can't fuck up a pound.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 Unless I go in with a hand and then I wrap his fist in my hand. Are you going full dap?

Speaker 2 I'm thinking I'm going to go three-step dap.

Speaker 6 Try to hug?

Speaker 1 You got to do a hug, half-hug. I've got to want to hug.
It depends on how that goes.

Speaker 2 You got to hug. I go three-step dap, the clap, the twist, the pop.

Speaker 5 You just have to go off his movement. You can't decide any of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you also.

Speaker 1 You also might want to, like, you should send, like, have maybe Max goes first just so you can see. You can get the scouting report.

Speaker 2 Max is not allowed to touch.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe Hank goes first. Yeah, okay.
So you get a scouting report. You're like, all right, he's going this way.

Speaker 2 Here's what we're doing. But he might see Hank and get bad vibes and not.

Speaker 1 I want Zach will go first. I'll go first.
Zach can go first. Zach can go first.
What if he goes to shake my hand?

Speaker 2 He's not going to shake your hand. He's going to see you coming a mile away.

Speaker 5 So if he goes to shake my hand,

Speaker 5 I'm not allowed to shake his hand. I just have to be disrespectful.

Speaker 2 You can shake his hand if he initiates.

Speaker 1 If he he initiates, I don't want to initiate. You're not allowed to touch me.
Yeah, don't touch my shit. Don't touch my shit.

Speaker 5 I'm the one who's saying he's a top-five quarterback without a doubt.

Speaker 7 No questions asked.

Speaker 2 That is true. That's a good point.
Yeah. But I was thinking about hitting him with a you demand.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I respect you. I don't know what to say.
Like I'm telling you, I'm very nervous about this.

Speaker 1 Huh? Is that a duh?

Speaker 1 You demand. Doll man? Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 You the man, you the man. That doesn't work.

Speaker 1 You demand is not, you shouldn't go you demand.

Speaker 2 What's up with it?

Speaker 1 Just be like, I love you.

Speaker 1 What's up with it?

Speaker 1 What's up up with that? You chilling come out of your mouth. You cooling? No, just say your, just say, just

Speaker 1 whisper really softly, I love you.

Speaker 2 I honestly thought about just saying, I love you. Why not? Or I respect you.

Speaker 1 Because if you can, if you can go with... No, don't do I respect you.
Do I love you? Fuck it, dude.

Speaker 2 Just go full sense.

Speaker 1 He knows who you are. Just want to scare him off.

Speaker 2 You don't want to scare him off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just be like, hey, not to be weird, but I love you.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have to rehearse this. I brought the 3D goggles because he likes the 3D thing to simulate in the games.
I might just, I'm going to simulate meeting Jaden Daniels until I get it right.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that'll come later this week. Should we talk? What's going on with Christian Wilkins?

Speaker 2 All right, so I got a report on Christian Wilkins here.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 So he got cut from the Raiders. He got cut from the Raiders, and then he has how many millions of dollars in salary that they have? Tons of millions.

Speaker 2 That they already paid him, that they're trying to get back. It was his signing most, like 30-something million.

Speaker 1 Shitloads of millions.

Speaker 2 And apparently you can just get that money back if you're a team and you're not happy with how somebody progressed from their injury.

Speaker 2 But then the report came out today that there was a, quote, incident with a teammate that led to his release.

Speaker 1 And Christian Wilkins is a very good football player, also has multiple times on camera put his finger in people's butts.

Speaker 2 He's a big butt guy. Yeah.
So the other report.

Speaker 1 I grabbed Josh Allen's dick once, too. The report was.
It's all on the field of play, by the way.

Speaker 2 Sources within the team are being careful and won't leak many details. One says, quote, it was weird.
Like a very weird incident. So it sounds like it was a butt incident.

Speaker 1 It sounds like he put his finger in a butt.

Speaker 2 Reading between the cheeks on this, I think it is an asshole incursion.

Speaker 1 I would say

Speaker 1 it feels like it was a butt.

Speaker 1 Because he's had, there's like multiple.

Speaker 1 I was looking below the report, and there was just multiple instances of people like college pros,

Speaker 2 fingers in butts. Blatant finger in the ass.

Speaker 1 Fingers all up.

Speaker 2 Checking the prostate. Now, Christian Wilkins is a good player.
Is he penetrate your butthole and still be loud on the team? Good. I don't think.
It depends on the price.

Speaker 2 Like, if Aaron Donald stuck his fist,

Speaker 1 you got to be able to handle it. You look the other way.
It's every, yeah. He can do anything.
He could put his whole face in your ass. Yeah, but if you're injured, you can't be doing that.

Speaker 1 No, you can't. No.

Speaker 1 If you're in the tub, you can't be putting your finger in people's butts. No, no.
All right. That was a story.

Speaker 1 We also just have varying degrees of this quarterback stinks or this thing. You know, Aaron Rodgers highlights, Caleb Williams highlights, everyone freaking out.

Speaker 1 It's still very early in training camp. Yep.
Remind everyone. We also have a very funny just wrinkle that,

Speaker 1 well, it's not funny. Matthew Stafford is

Speaker 1 out for a while because of his back. The funny part is Devontae Adams is on the Rams and excited to be on the Rams.
And now his quarterback is Jimmy G.

Speaker 1 And if you remember correctly, he basically was like, I need to get the fuck away from Jimmy G.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 2 He can't quit him.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the wide receiver Netflix show is just Devontae Adams being like, Jimmy G is trying to get me killed. I need to get out of here.
And he just went all roads lead back to Jimmy G.

Speaker 2 I think that it's probably Sean McVay and Matt Stafford having a handshake agreement.

Speaker 2 Matt Stafford being like, I want to play again, but I'm old, so please don't make me play in training camp all the time. And Sean being like, yeah, okay, I understand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. It makes perfect sense.
Also, Kenny Pickett got a hammy.

Speaker 2 I saw that. So he drops down to fourth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Browns quarterback situation changes a little.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right now I have Flacco number number one again on my Cleveland Browns quarterbacks. I think Flacco starts the regular season.

Speaker 1 I would agree. I mean, it doesn't, if Kenny's hurt, they're not going to start Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 2 No. Shador's, I feel like Shador's in third, Dylan Gabriel's in second.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 And they would rather have Joe Flacco start and let Dylan Gabriel learn a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right. Oh, also, Malik Neighbors hated Daniel Jones beyond belief.

Speaker 2 That was pretty clear.

Speaker 1 He had an interview where he was talking about having

Speaker 1 it's nice to have a true leader in the locker room over and over.

Speaker 1 And Jameis Winston also is a true leader. He said that he's not an outcome-based quarterback.

Speaker 2 Yeah, which is, you think? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's basically like, yeah, if it's the interception, it's like, was the process correct?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's about getting there.

Speaker 2 It's about the journey, not the destination.

Speaker 6 A shirt. Yeah, I was about to say a shout out to their couple AWS.
There's two AWLs with, I'm getting their shirts that we apparently sold and probably need to put back on sale.

Speaker 1 Absolutely have to.

Speaker 2 Those are hot. What is that a reference to again?

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 I'm getting there. You have to read the tweet.
You have to read the tweet. I'll read it.

Speaker 2 Do you know what tweet you're looking up?

Speaker 1 I'm searching Ray Allen. Ray Allen.
I'm getting there. I'm searching it right now.
While you're looking for it,

Speaker 1 we've talked some love about Maryland and Baltimore.

Speaker 1 I'm just looking through my bookmarks. I don't know why I bookmarked this,

Speaker 1 but it is funny because we're appropriately in Maryland right now. It's from Cumweiser.
Okay. Is the Twitter account?

Speaker 2 It's a great new kind of beer.

Speaker 1 Come Weiser. He said, and again, this is all love to Maryland, but this is a funny tweet.
I have to read it. Maryland is the most pathetic state shape ever.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yeah, no, I don't need a lot of land. I'll just take your scraps.
That's fine. I'll take this fuck ass area and I don't need anything else.
Sorry for bothering you type shit.

Speaker 1 I'd be embarrassed to be proud to be from Maryland. Yeah, I mean, it is funny when you look at a map.
They just cut the shit.

Speaker 1 They cut the fuck out of Maryland, they just cut it up, they carved that shit up. You know what the most cucked part of Maryland is?

Speaker 2 It's on the eastern shore. When you look at that, and then Delaware takes half the eastern shore, and then at the bottom, dude, Virginia is just like, Oh, yeah, we got this too.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna need that bottom part.

Speaker 1 They got cucks, and it's like, Yeah, okay, whatever you say, just take your scraps, that's fine. I'll take this fuck-ass area.
I think they're talking about the western part, yeah.

Speaker 1 It is that's a true fuck-ass area in the western part. That's just like a little piece, and it's just such a funny state shape because it's a straight line up top.

Speaker 1 And then it just, they just got cucked on everything. Big time.
And the District of Columbia, too.

Speaker 2 They took that right out of Maryland. Sure.

Speaker 1 Shut up, Cumweiser.

Speaker 1 All right. Ready?

Speaker 1 You want the fool thing? Yeah, broke bud, duh. Yes, sir.
Okay, I got you. It's a.

Speaker 1 I'm getting there. When you masturbate, think about my tongue on your clit and switching back and forth from dick to my tongue.
Nice. That's from Sugar Ray 20.
ray allen

Speaker 1 great tweet

Speaker 1 i like how too when you had to find it it's just a tweet of me tweeting it out

Speaker 1 what was it like when you ran into ray allen at toho big guy not not really warm

Speaker 1 really yeah i think well he gave me like a i was like hey we're trying to get you on pardon my take and he was like oh cool i'll tell my people and then i texted josh our great booker i was like hey i saw ray allen he said that he'd be down to come on and then he like 20 minutes later he's like yes people just passed again yeah

Speaker 1 smart move, yeah. But also, not a smart move because, kind of like the tennis pod, if Ray Allen came on,

Speaker 1 the tweet would basically be done. If we joked about it with him, he would kill it, he would kill it.
Yeah, like that's the beauty of the show: you could just kill a joke like that.

Speaker 2 The tennis pod is probably gonna have Ray Allen on, yeah.

Speaker 1 They're probably gonna get him.

Speaker 2 I got one more piece of breaking news, okay.

Speaker 1 Breaking news,

Speaker 2 Ben Simmons,

Speaker 2 one of the most sought-after free agents on the market, is expected to sign with the Boston Celtics League sources say. Oh, wow.
As first report, I'm part of my take.

Speaker 2 Boston has been engaged in pursuit of Simmons since the start of free agency sources said. That's the Ari report.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 6 Max.

Speaker 1 I don't think this is a real report. Are you saying you don't trust the Ari report?

Speaker 7 That is kind of what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 That sounds anti-Semitic.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. That is...

Speaker 7 That he has 15,000 followers.

Speaker 1 Is this the same guy as Material Change? No.

Speaker 2 Who is that? That was a different Ari.

Speaker 5 Shams has not said a single thing about it.

Speaker 1 I feel like that might be just the same guy. He just popped up.
He might.

Speaker 6 I think it's a different Ari.

Speaker 1 He was reporting NBA news.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know if it's the same Ari or not because I feel like that Ari is still.

Speaker 1 It's the Material Change guy that's rules. Just keep swinging, dude.
Because

Speaker 1 he had the worst. What was it? What was it? Kawhi? Yeah, Kawhi.

Speaker 1 So congrats on Ben Simmons.

Speaker 6 I would be excited for Ben Simmons.

Speaker 6 I'm with Max. I don't think this is 100% true.

Speaker 1 Different R.

Speaker 6 I I think it's probably 25% true. He's just trying to be first.
Okay. But there's four teams interested.

Speaker 2 Four to six teams per the Ari report.

Speaker 1 Got it. Hank,

Speaker 1 while you have the mic here, UFC report.

Speaker 6 Yeah, a lot of great fights.

Speaker 6 I have one main takeaway.

Speaker 6 Sheriputin

Speaker 6 Magometov

Speaker 6 is the greatest UFC-looking fighter of all time. He looks like an angry leprechaun.

Speaker 1 Whoa, he does. What about the guy's eye? What'd you think about that?

Speaker 6 It's a good eye.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't. Did you not see the guy's eye?

Speaker 6 Which one? His eye was completely. There's a lot of guys, a lot of eyes.
Completely.

Speaker 1 We'll show. I'm going to show you the guy's eye.
It was, it was, it was more than black and blue. It looked like he got like a tire pump put underneath his eyelid, and it happened almost instantly.

Speaker 1 You ready for this, Hank? It is a very violent now. Hank doesn't like violence, but he loves UFC.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 6 that's foul. That's foul.

Speaker 1 That's pretty crazy. It's also crazy because if you see the actual clip, it happened.
Like he got hit. He went down.

Speaker 1 By the time he was standing up, you could see it actually blow up like in real time. It happened in a matter of seconds.

Speaker 6 Gross. Great fights, though.
Yeah, you're glued to your TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's a great recap.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what was the atmosphere like Saturday night when you're watching those fights?

Speaker 6 You know, I like to wait until the all-22 comes out so I can, you know, get the view from my eye in the sky. Okay.
I wasn't actually watching that.

Speaker 2 That was a trick question. I was trying to trap you into it because it was Saturday during the day.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 But you still haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 Hank, what about the Red Sox bandwagon train?

Speaker 6 We're still running next to you.

Speaker 1 Can you tell me what happened this week?

Speaker 6 We were beating the Dodgers when we walked into the meet and greet. Okay.
I did not check if. Oh, we won.
We'd be the Dodgers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're good. Yeah.
And Aaron Judge is hurt. But not that hurt.
But a little hurt to the point that John Carlo might be warming up to play some outfield, which is so funny.

Speaker 2 And then Aaron Judge just DHing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're not going to shut him down, right? He's going to keep hitting.

Speaker 1 They're going to try. I think they're going to wait a week or so to revisit.
Okay. But John Carlo playing the outfield is what we all want.

Speaker 2 That is what we need. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We absolutely need that. It also was Hall of Fame weekend for Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what happened to Ichiro's speech? I don't know. I don't know.
I just saw a bunch of clips of it.

Speaker 1 I didn't know it was Hall of Fame weekend until Cece Zabatia got stuck on the side of the highway. That was it.
That was like, oh, he was like, anyone going to Cooperstown can help me out?

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, it must be Hall of Fame weekend.

Speaker 2 I like that. Ichiro cracks jokes, shares wisdom, and calls out lone voter in National Baseball Hall of Fame speech.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Also, headline. We had our AWL Nick Kurtz with maybe the greatest game of all time.

Speaker 2 I'd say probably the best offensive game in baseball history.

Speaker 1 19 total bases, four home runs. Four home runs,

Speaker 1 six,

Speaker 1 eight RBIs. Or no, how many RBIs did he have? He had more than that, I think.

Speaker 1 He went single, home run, double, home run, home run, home run, four home runs.

Speaker 2 Just insane. Crazy.
We got to hear Dallas Braden on the call. That was nice.
Yeah. Say his name.
What's his name again? Say it fast. Nick Kurtz.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Is that okay? Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 2 What would you say? I like to say Nicholas Kurtz.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Just be safe. Nick Kurtz? Yeah, just be safe.

Speaker 1 Are you trying to do like a Steve Kurtz?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's kind of like...

Speaker 1 It's not exactly.

Speaker 2 I don't think it's the same as Steve Kerr's son. It's close.

Speaker 5 You're right with eight RBIs, by the way.

Speaker 1 Nine?

Speaker 5 No, I said you were right.

Speaker 1 Eight? With eight. Yeah, eight.
I think you have nine.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at nine. And

Speaker 2 he's a rookie, which is crazy. And if you look at how he's been hitting since like, I think the first month that he was in Major League Baseball wasn't great.

Speaker 2 But since then, he's like the best hitter in Major League Baseball. Yeah.
In the entire league.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Do we have anything else before we do who's back? And then we'll do Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 2 All right, let's do it.

Speaker 1 And then we have Charles Barkley. Awesome interview.

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Speaker 6 yeah corn sweats go on yeah so it was very hot in chicago this weekend very humid uh and apparently that's because of corn sweats

Speaker 6 that's that's what it's called yeah

Speaker 6 i love corn it's basically like the meat sweats, but when it's humid, you can just blame the corn.

Speaker 1 So it's a hot one. So the corn.
Really hot.

Speaker 2 What was it about the corn?

Speaker 2 What is it about it? Yeah, they made it hot in Chicago.

Speaker 6 Corn sweat is crops releasing vapor that soaks the atmosphere and turns the outdoors into a steam trap.

Speaker 6 So it's basically like, you know, the corn.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're just stuck in our own.

Speaker 6 The corn turns the earth into a sauna.

Speaker 2 So like a polar vortex steam room.

Speaker 1 But for corn, it was a cornhole.

Speaker 2 You were trapped in the cornhole.

Speaker 1 That was good thinking on your feet, man. Thank you.
Nice job, Hank.

Speaker 6 Well, I was thinking about that. You're sharp right now.
It's been really hot, and it's like, this can't be normal. And it's like, oh, this must be the corn sweats.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And, you know, it was.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 I alluded to it at the beginning of the show, but like after Charles Brockley, we're going to do Happy Gilmore 2 review. And I know Hank has some good takes.

Speaker 2 Very good. Some really good.

Speaker 6 Well, yeah, I just know from what PFT has been spoiled for me. I've been waiting.
I've been waiting on it. Spoiled?

Speaker 1 We spoiled it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's not Citizen Kane. I'm not telling you that Rosebud was the soul.
So you didn't watch.

Speaker 1 It's our homework.

Speaker 6 It was not our homework. It should have been.
I started watching it and then.

Speaker 1 So you didn't watch UFC or Happy Gilmore 2? I watched Happy Gilmore 1.

Speaker 6 I watched Happy Good More 1. Okay, okay.
Greatest movie of all time.

Speaker 2 You didn't want to be lost during Happy Gilmore 2.

Speaker 1 It came on and

Speaker 6 I'll watch it eventually, but the intro being the exact same. I was like, I just want to watch Happy Good More 1.
Like when it started with the same music and voice.

Speaker 1 When did you watch Happy Good More 1?

Speaker 6 On Friday night.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 6 I started to watch Happy Gilmore 2. This is insane.

Speaker 1 This is crazy. You started.

Speaker 6 I'm just going to get mad. I want to just enjoy a movie.
And Happy Gilmore 1 is the funniest movie of all time.

Speaker 1 All time.

Speaker 5 You might be the only person

Speaker 5 in America that did that.

Speaker 1 No, I actually think there might be a couple people who've done it. After the opening scene, yeah, there were some people who were mad about Happy Gilmore 2.

Speaker 5 But after the open.

Speaker 6 I just knew it was going to be a repeat. I'm like, why shouldn't I just watch the first one?

Speaker 1 It's going to be a repeat?

Speaker 6 Because the beginning narration was literally the same song, same voiceover, same thing. It's like, all right, this movie, which I'm assuming is how it goes, is like a pretty similar

Speaker 6 story to the first one.

Speaker 1 It's a remix.

Speaker 6 I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 6 But once again,

Speaker 1 don't spoil

Speaker 2 right now. You're spoiling our upcoming review of Happy Gilmore Tale.

Speaker 1 True. True.
All right, good who's back. Thanks.

Speaker 2 I have two who's backs. All right.
First who's back is Hank and Mount Rushmore season. Great performance last week.

Speaker 6 Nice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but let's get real. You nailed that.
Top to bottom.

Speaker 1 Good work. You mean on just Fridays?

Speaker 2 On Friday, Sean. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Great work. You said last week.

Speaker 2 Friday was last week. Got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But there was more than just Friday.

Speaker 2 I'm talking Friday. Great work by Hank.

Speaker 6 Star of Championship TVD.

Speaker 2 There we go. Your lips to God's ears.
Mother, who's back of the week is Philly Sports fans.

Speaker 2 Good sports town, and it travels. That was in Yankee Stadium, right? There was

Speaker 1 a video playing against the Yankees.

Speaker 2 How about two fans allegedly

Speaker 2 having a great time at the old ball game together?

Speaker 1 She's enjoying enjoying it.

Speaker 2 Just, he was saying, we're number one.

Speaker 1 Peanuts and Cracker Jacks.

Speaker 2 Just giving her.

Speaker 2 He was giving the Bronx salute.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He was selling her fastball down the middle.

Speaker 2 It was the Bronx salute. It might have been a little bit low for a Bronx salute.
And she really thought that he was getting the spirit of the game.

Speaker 2 And you love to see two kids going out to a ball game like that, enjoying themselves.

Speaker 1 Love is love, and

Speaker 1 Philly fans love love. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Siddhari and brotherly love. There it is.
Brotherly love.

Speaker 1 Maybe not brotherly love. That wasn't brotherly love.

Speaker 2 Maybe like stepmotherly love.

Speaker 1 That was something different going on. It's love.

Speaker 2 Love is love. Love is love.
Love is love. But they had a great time at the old ball game.
That's what we like to see as sports fans. Yeah.
Who says baseball's dead? Not us. Not us.
Not us.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 All right. I got a couple who's backs.
First is Jokic. The video of Jokic crying after his horse is won.
So good. So fucking good.

Speaker 1 Would you be pissed if you were a Nuggets fan? Like a little bit? A little bit. But it's also so funny.

Speaker 2 But it's good to see him expressing that emotion about something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the way I put it was: Jokic,

Speaker 1 he just rocks because he loves horses more than anything. And then in the horse offseason, he's like, I'll win a couple MVPs.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's his

Speaker 1 hobby. Yeah, he would rather,

Speaker 1 he's almost like, I got to go pay the bills and win an MVP and be the best basketball player in the world. Yeah, I mean, I really want to be back with my horses.

Speaker 2 It was abundantly clear that he cares more about his horse-winning races than he does about winning NBA championships.

Speaker 2 But he also cares a lot about winning NBA championships, and he's very good at that too. Yes.
So just let Jokic be Jokic.

Speaker 6 He loves the cart horses too, which is, I don't understand this as much.

Speaker 1 It's just a Serbian thing.

Speaker 2 You know what I would not do though if I were a Nuggets fan is shame him for this. No.
Because that's just going to push him away. Agreed.

Speaker 2 I think Nuggets fans just have to become just as big of a horse fans as Jokic is.

Speaker 1 Big time agreed.

Speaker 2 Like build a fucking world-class horse race track in Denver. And then maybe Jokic will be more attached to your city.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can't leave. Yeah.
Also, I saw there was,

Speaker 1 I think lebron posted something with jokic's agent did you see that i'm gonna look in the instagram maybe it was was it uh hold on i'll find it it was so it's not what you think of like lebron and yokic teaming up it was oh so his so jokic's agent posted something with lebron and said the summer of 2025 is the perfect time to make big plans for the fall of 2026.

Speaker 1 It was him, Maverick Carter, and LeBron.

Speaker 1 So you'd initially think, oh, this is LeBron trying to see him, but the Yokici, it's, I think, the threatened league that

Speaker 1 people are talking about, a new basketball league, because he's a big agent in Europe, and he's got, like, all the Euro ball. So, interesting.

Speaker 2 Do you see what

Speaker 2 Luca tweeted out today? What did he say? There's a tournament of one-on-one basketball that's going to be going across the country this summer.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 That would be awesome to watch.

Speaker 1 This summer's over. Yeah.
Well, no.

Speaker 2 August. It's like July 31st into August.
This summer's over.

Speaker 1 Hank knows it. Hank knew it.
He said when Grit Week starts, Hank knows summer's over.

Speaker 6 Yeah, football's back.

Speaker 1 Football's over. So back.

Speaker 1 You're excited for it.

Speaker 1 Also, Mario, who got cocked by Princess Peach,

Speaker 1 Nintendo announced. Was it what? Did we talk about this on Friday?

Speaker 2 No, I saw that report.

Speaker 1 It came out on Friday. It was a big report.
Oh, Hank, I forgot you just weren't on Earth for the last three days.

Speaker 1 nintendo released what

Speaker 1 this was a big story it was nintendo released a statement on princess peach's relationship with mario and said they're good friends and help each other out whenever they can 40 years of that

Speaker 1 total friend zone white knight

Speaker 1 very sad very sad for mario you think luigi was smashing no luigi's smashing the other one Daisy, Daisy, Daisy, Daisy, Mario's not all up in Daisy's guts.

Speaker 2 Nothing for Mario.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nothing for Mario.

Speaker 2 How many times did you have to save her?

Speaker 6 I can't believe I missed that.

Speaker 1 It is funny, though.

Speaker 1 It was going viral for a while on Friday. Did you hear about the aliens?

Speaker 6 I did hear about the aliens.

Speaker 1 Did you see Dante Jones pick his butt? Nope. Yeah, that was a crazy video.
My former teammate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else did you miss? Shane Victorino played versus Van and Bananas. That's fun.

Speaker 6 Again. That's fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else did Hank maybe miss?

Speaker 2 Shaq fucking hates Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 6 Yep.

Speaker 6 That's been known.

Speaker 1 Did you just break it? Trump's caddy dropping a ball.

Speaker 6 That's very funny.

Speaker 1 That's also like I classic.

Speaker 1 If you're a person of money or power, like you have to have a caddy doing that for you.

Speaker 2 Why would you ever hit out of the bunker?

Speaker 1 That's like the best.

Speaker 1 I would love to just have someone just going in front of me all the time to be like, found it right in the fairway. His course.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, Zach, do you have a who's back for us?

Speaker 1 I do have who's back for us. I've got a quick one this week.

Speaker 1 I know I've been touching on the video game stuff a little heavy, so I will broaden my horizons, but this is pretty notable. They had EWC this last weekend.
Are you familiar with EWC? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Esports World Cup out there and saw you. Yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 That's what I definitely thought you meant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's the Saudis. So COD Champs, I would say, is the biggest term of the year.
Wait, when you said you were broadening your horizons, it says not.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm going to broaden the future.

Speaker 1 Moving forward, I'm going to broaden them. This just felt notable.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Listen, you got to report on what you got to report. I appreciate that, but I will broaden them, I promise.

Speaker 1 But Optic, the Greenwall, was able to defeat Vancouver again.

Speaker 1 Two trophy racing ceremonies at the end of the year for this title of B06.

Speaker 1 Fantastic. Let's go.

Speaker 2 What game was it?

Speaker 1 Black Ops 6.

Speaker 2 Black Ops 6. Yep.
That's huge. So Optic is just wiping the shit out of everybody else right now, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, season's over. What a turnaround.
Beginning of the year, didn't look too great, and they just finish off just taking out heads. Can I

Speaker 1 I'm gonna say something crazy now and we're a team of Mount Rushmore so this is outside of Mount Rush this is separate is off the seat

Speaker 1 Would you say I've been fair with you more than fair would you say I've been firm with you

Speaker 1 More than firm, okay, do you think I could be firmer

Speaker 1 get as firm as you like sir. All right, I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna get real firm with you.
I'm gonna get firm but fair

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear another thing about video games from you until you start streaming for us. I won't say another thing about video games, I promise.

Speaker 1 But that no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You don't understand what I said. Oh, okay.
You can start streaming tomorrow, and then you can talk about it all you want. I got you.
That's what I'm looking for. Just not another word.

Speaker 1 I'm doing more of a.

Speaker 1 I want you to start streaming. Okay.
So it's like I got to take something out away to get you to do the thing that we want you to do. I can do that for you.

Speaker 1 The people want to see you streaming video games. The thing is, I'm not the best big guy in full transparency.
No, you don't matter. Zach doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 So for stream gaming, you got to either have the mouthpiece or the gaming ability. You have the mouthpiece.
I got a lot of mouthpiece. I got a lot of dead air and then not the best of team games.

Speaker 1 But I would do it for the five.

Speaker 2 That was old Zach. New Zach with his fresh new haircut.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I appreciate that. So, just so we're clear, you understand I want you to keep talking about video games.

Speaker 1 Because you're streaming. I can do that for you.

Speaker 5 Memes and I will be there with fairly few.

Speaker 1 You'll be good. Memes going to walk you through it.
He's got you. We got this as a team, boys.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes, but you are the.

Speaker 1 You never walk alone. You are the

Speaker 1 one. Pardon my take.

Speaker 2 Same thing. Let's walk, boys.

Speaker 1 We never walk alone.

Speaker 1 All right. Good job, Zach.
Again, don't know what you just said.

Speaker 1 Did you catch any of it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was Optic won Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 6 They won Cod Live.

Speaker 1 It is Cod Live. That's a perfect way to explain it.
It's Cod Live. It's Assault coming in, dropping money.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 They can wear shorts while they do it.

Speaker 1 A couple of pairs of shorts out there. Okay.

Speaker 1 Is it Cod But Louder? What's up? Is it Cod But Louder?

Speaker 1 Because there was some interference by the crowd that they're trying to figure out, but the crowd sells some different things for the game. It's not very good.
Got it.

Speaker 2 Got it.

Speaker 1 Guys are chirping when other guys are trying to defuse bombs.

Speaker 2 It's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 In Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 4 In Saudi Arabia, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's do our Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore of words to start with G, and grit is eliminated. So we're doing it in honor of grit, but grit cannot be picked.
Who is up first?

Speaker 1 I'm feeling very uncomfortable with the backs of the overshoot.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he was doing this earlier, too.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 6 No, I was not. Yeah, you were.

Speaker 5 This is going to be an honor game. I'm not even going to look at you guys.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I'm just going to look at my boy memes here.

Speaker 1 All right, so who's up first?

Speaker 1 PFT's got the ball.

Speaker 6 All right, let's go Hank. And I love our list.

Speaker 1 Love our list.

Speaker 6 We're hot. All right.

Speaker 2 We're going three for three. Number one,

Speaker 2 we're taking game sevens.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 First overall.

Speaker 2 Memes look like I just did something terrible.

Speaker 1 No, it's a good pick. That's a great pick.
It's a great pick. It's a great pick.
Great pick.

Speaker 1 They're the two best words. What about game seven blogs?

Speaker 2 Two best words in the English language are what? Game sevens. What about game sevens? That would mean that game is one of the best.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we're in a sports podcast, and the best two words in sports are.

Speaker 2 Game sevens. Game seven.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait. I can't get my computer.

Speaker 1 Well, we don't have Wi-Fi on this bus, which I didn't realize we didn't have.

Speaker 2 Tethered.

Speaker 1 I was tethered, and then I thought I could go to my phone to see what I sent, and now I'm screwed. Do you have the list?

Speaker 1 I'm texting to you right now. Okay, text me the numbered list right now.
Yep. Oh, no, we have our 1-1 that we're going to pick.
Right? Is there our pick? Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, we're going to go with gridiron. Can't do football without gridiron.
Good pick. Gridiron.
Okay, we are going to go with.

Speaker 1 I'm never fully understood.

Speaker 2 The gridiron is like a shape.

Speaker 1 You texted to me? Yep,

Speaker 2 iron, and it looks like the football field.

Speaker 1 Gridiron.

Speaker 5 The reason that we had that reaction earlier, because we were shocked that Hank didn't pick this, we're going to go with golf.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 Good pick, yeah, yeah. And then you love golf.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm a huge golfer mine.

Speaker 1 Meme shot in 82

Speaker 5 yesterday. Golf will be our first and girls will be our second.

Speaker 1 Oh, girls.

Speaker 1 What age is

Speaker 1 like under 18. What age is girls? Just parents?

Speaker 1 Is girls? Not women.

Speaker 5 Is girls now an age group?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, yeah, there's women who are 18.

Speaker 1 That is not true. Girls.

Speaker 1 Yikes.

Speaker 1 Girls.

Speaker 1 Yikes. I want to apologize to everyone who's tuned in in for the Charles Barkley interview.
We don't know this guy.

Speaker 1 Max, he's on a flight. He's on a flight log.

Speaker 2 Max, girls. You guys can try and do this.

Speaker 5 That is just not how this works.

Speaker 1 I have a question. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What college football team do you refer for again?

Speaker 1 That also

Speaker 1 says that. Go to Hras.
That doesn't make sense. That didn't make sense.
The answer is Pen Save. That didn't make sense.
It's a pattern. Go, Hank.

Speaker 1 You're up. Hank.

Speaker 5 You don't think it people say

Speaker 1 whatever.

Speaker 1 No, No, we love. I hate girls.

Speaker 1 I love girls. Is your mom a girl or a woman?

Speaker 6 She's a girl.

Speaker 1 Mom's a lady.

Speaker 1 You fucking idiot. So lady.
They are synonyms.

Speaker 1 Lady woman synonyms. Yeah, ladies.

Speaker 2 Lady is a classy pick, Zach.

Speaker 1 That would have been a good one for L. Elwood.

Speaker 1 Okay, don't get upset.

Speaker 1 Like, there's, there's, they call, they call girls young women.

Speaker 6 They don't call girls old girls.

Speaker 2 Yeah, good point.

Speaker 6 They don't call women old girls.

Speaker 2 That's an outstanding point. Yeah, right?

Speaker 1 Facts. No, you can't argue with that.
Uh, okay, I think we go with uh our plan, right? Stay strong, don't break. Number 34, there,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 34 is a huge, yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't know late edition, it was a late, it was a late edition.
Uh,

Speaker 1 we're gonna go with uh guitars,

Speaker 1 all right? Good pick. I mean,

Speaker 1 you know, PFT.

Speaker 1 It's a lot better than girls.

Speaker 2 Guitar solos on the list, but yeah,

Speaker 2 guitars are

Speaker 2 everything to music. Shout out to Merce.
Yeah. I just, by the way, I looked up girls in the dictionary.
A female child or adolescent.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 2 And the example was a six-year-old girl.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 It's just interesting. Okay.

Speaker 2 Yikes. So,

Speaker 1 I think we're going to be able to do that. Just remember when you're voting with

Speaker 6 you out the ball. I got the ball.

Speaker 6 You felt strong about this one. But I like whatever you like.
Okay. Can't go wrong with that list.

Speaker 2 We're going to go with gold.

Speaker 1 Gold, okay.

Speaker 1 Good element. Yeah.
Gray pick.

Speaker 2 Next pick, we're going to go with

Speaker 2 green jacket. Okay.

Speaker 1 Gray pick. Great, good pick.
Gray pick. Great pick, thank you.
Great pick.

Speaker 1 That was great.

Speaker 1 I corrected my name.

Speaker 6 But I like.

Speaker 1 I thought I was going to go rogue. Yeah.
I know. I thought we might be later tonight, but at the variant, I wasn't sure.

Speaker 1 No, the thing we said on the way out when we're like, fuck, this is great.

Speaker 1 Our next pick is guys being dudes. Okay.
What's better than that?

Speaker 1 Guys being dudes.

Speaker 2 Give me an example, Zach.

Speaker 1 We're guys being dudes right now.

Speaker 1 We're fucking loving it. Guys being dudes.
Except

Speaker 1 for guys being dudes. Max is not included in guys being dudes.

Speaker 1 He's boys being dudes. He's

Speaker 2 guys being felons. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you guys like guys being dudes? Max, do you like guys being dudes? Or do you talk about girls more?

Speaker 1 Everybody, calm down.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite age of girl, Max?

Speaker 1 Give us one answer to that. Give us one answer to what your favorite age of girl is.
Can you give us one? We are going to go away. Oh, you can't even give us one.
You guys are a bitch.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 1 if you know, I'm not taking the page. You say 25, it's a woman.

Speaker 1 You can't say my favorite girl age is 25. Yes, you can.
No, you can't. That's not a girl.
That's That's a woman.

Speaker 5 They are synonyms.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I just read you the definition.

Speaker 1 They're not. You're a fucking pedo.
Dating apps is to go,

Speaker 1 women, or something. Zach, Zach, this isn't you.

Speaker 1 This isn't you, Zach. Yes, no, that is

Speaker 1 part of our meeting.

Speaker 6 I was about to answer his question. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because this is Rage Man. I'm not taking the bait.

Speaker 1 Just give me one favorite age of a girl.

Speaker 1 What your favorite age of a girl is.

Speaker 5 I will not. I am not answering the question.

Speaker 1 Why is there a bunch of answer the fucking question? Why is it made called boys to men? If they're synonyms, wouldn't it be the same thing? Good point.

Speaker 1 Really good point. Whatever.
Really good point. We're going to go with Grand Theft Auto.
Okay,

Speaker 1 nice one. Good pig.
Good pig, guys.

Speaker 1 Good pig.

Speaker 5 Max, we literally made our company off of saying Saturdays are for the boys.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's different.

Speaker 1 How is that? That was the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 We just like to act like Blue. You're acting like Justin.

Speaker 1 No, we're acting acting like Justin.

Speaker 1 You don't understand what Samoa. Yeah, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's correct. Yes.
Busting with the boys is a shit.

Speaker 1 Dude, you're acting like that. You are just saying bars

Speaker 1 that we use. You're talking about boys.
Yes. Not girls.

Speaker 1 You're wrong. What?

Speaker 1 Dude, we're talking about acting like boys. When you act like a boy, that's like we're doing fucking childish shit.

Speaker 1 When you say, I like girls, we all say, ew. Yeah, you sound like Elaine Maxwell, Max.

Speaker 1 Is that your next pick?

Speaker 1 Ghislaine?

Speaker 1 Are you okay? Take it. Take it.

Speaker 1 Why don't you stand for something and just take it? Just go full Epstein and take it. Take Ghislaine.

Speaker 2 Get the pedo vote.

Speaker 1 We did that one.

Speaker 1 We just got girls. That's all I got.
Dude,

Speaker 1 you guys fought girls. And then you turned it off.
Yeah, did not have girls. I told you for that very reason.
Did Grand Theft Auto? We took Grand Theft Auto now.

Speaker 6 We all said good pick, Max.

Speaker 1 That's a great pick. Great pick, Max.

Speaker 1 Grand Theft Auto better picked than girls. That was confirmed.
No, that's definitely that. We're going to take The Godfather.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
All right. Okay.

Speaker 6 It's a Godfather.

Speaker 1 Godfather. Movies.
Parentheses, movie.

Speaker 1 No, you can do parentheses. Movie.

Speaker 1 Parentheses, movie? Yeah, movies. Okay.

Speaker 1 We're going to take a pick with parentheses as well then. I don't want

Speaker 1 to. We don't need the parentheses.

Speaker 1 need our

Speaker 1 we will we need we need the parentheses on ours, nine, yeah.

Speaker 1 We would like to take ooh, are we next? Yeah, no, we're next. Okay, we would like to take gorilla, parentheses, harambe.
Yes, all right, no, yeah, no, why?

Speaker 1 So, now you're out on prince, I think you can take gorillas. That's all right, fine.
Then we won't take it, then we won't take it. We won't take it, that's fine.

Speaker 2 I mean, gorillas are pretty cool, yeah,

Speaker 2 king of the jungle,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 We can't blow up here, this is where we blow up. Uh, I'm thinking 14

Speaker 1 and 12.

Speaker 1 4. 4 is pretty good.

Speaker 2 Do you like 16?

Speaker 1 3?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 We're struggling.

Speaker 1 We really want to take Gorilla. Parentheses Harambe.
All right. 28.
All right.

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say it because you guys are not going to take it.

Speaker 1 This is not our pick. But Zach has been wanting me to take Gushers the entire time.
So good. Yeah, Gushers are so good.
I told him that's a great, honorable mention.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's a great, honorable mention.

Speaker 1 Mount Rush,

Speaker 1 when we were walking into the RV, he goes, just think a little bit more about Gushers.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're stuck. We're stuck.
I don't want to stall you.

Speaker 6 What about?

Speaker 1 What do you got? What do you got? No. Wait, I mean.

Speaker 1 No. You can't find it.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's very true.

Speaker 1 Our last pick is going to be what? What do you think? No, you got this.

Speaker 7 You got this. Take the rock.
Take the rock.

Speaker 1 I just threw it to the rim, slam it. You got to die podcasting now.
You got to say what you were thinking. Okay.
I'm thinking you go the G-Pick right here. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 You say what you were thinking.

Speaker 1 All right, we would like to take... No, no, no.
Don't say it out loud. Just tell me what number you're thinking.
Okay, what do you think about

Speaker 1 14? That's insane. What happened to gorilla? Yeah, do it.
All right, go. We would like to take Guy Fiery.
Yes. Okay.
We love Guy Fiery.

Speaker 1 Yep. Love Guy Fieri.
That's good. That's strong.
That's true. We didn't break.
Gushers would have been interesting.

Speaker 1 I think it would have played a little bit, but it's definitely a risk.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 Our last pick.

Speaker 1 God.

Speaker 1 Yep. God.
I knew you were going to die.

Speaker 6 Yeah, great pick. Big man upstairs.

Speaker 2 Almost took Jesus Christ with G,

Speaker 2 but God.

Speaker 2 Okay. Shout out to God.
I mean, the greatest of them all.

Speaker 1 Literally.

Speaker 2 Heavenly Father. Most praise.

Speaker 1 We had it on the list.

Speaker 6 Big ups. Yeah.
Okay. What?

Speaker 2 Without God, Mount Rushmore doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 We were thinking about taking gravity at one point.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. Yeah.
We almost took with our last pick, we almost took girlfriends, which would have played, I think.

Speaker 1 And we almost took girl on girl porn. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would have been

Speaker 1 incredible. That would have been so good.

Speaker 1 Glizzies.

Speaker 1 Glizzies. Yeah.
Goal. Grand Slam.

Speaker 2 Grand Slam. Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 Gumbo. PFT.

Speaker 2 I had Gumbo on the list. Yeah.
The G-Spot.

Speaker 1 We had that as well.

Speaker 2 Danja.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Gas.
Grizzly Bear. Great White Shark.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gruden, Gretzky.

Speaker 2 Oh, good picks.

Speaker 1 Google. Google.
Google.

Speaker 6 Game shows. Nothing better than a nice big gong.

Speaker 5 There's so many good G movies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good fellows, Goodwill hunting.

Speaker 6 Go a hunting.

Speaker 1 Or Zach Wanami Trump. Great of Thrones.
Golf of the USA. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Good Golf. Golf of America.

Speaker 2 G-Strings.

Speaker 1 No one thought about taking guns.

Speaker 6 Glocks. I had Glocks on the list.

Speaker 5 Yeah, memes and I almost just went full all different areas and gone guns, gays, and God as ours.

Speaker 1 That would have been.

Speaker 2 That's so confusing.

Speaker 1 Instead, you went within the porch.

Speaker 2 I think that was a Warren Zvon song.

Speaker 1 Instead, you went with underage girls.

Speaker 1 That is not what I was saying. Guacamole.

Speaker 1 Has the word underage women ever been said? No.

Speaker 1 You just said that. That's not girl porn.
That was an honorable mention. You didn't take it.

Speaker 1 It's an honorable mention.

Speaker 2 Getting laid.

Speaker 1 G-Spot.

Speaker 2 You always said G-Spot. Yeah.
Grandparents.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gas.

Speaker 2 Gas is good.

Speaker 1 Gasoline and gas, what the kids call it? Yep.

Speaker 2 And farting.

Speaker 1 Garage fridge. It's nothing better than a garage fridge.
That's where you just keep all your beer.

Speaker 2 Guinness.

Speaker 1 Garage. Yeah, garage.
Goal line stand.

Speaker 2 That's good.

Speaker 1 The best. The best.
Get up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Grilled cheese.

Speaker 1 Good pack. Grilled cheese is a mess.
Godzilla.

Speaker 6 Godzilla's okay. Godzilla minus one.
Godzilla fell off.

Speaker 1 These are honorable. Godzilla minus one.
What did you want you to rip off a couple of yours? Graphic t-shirts. Yeah.
Jell-O ball.

Speaker 6 Yep. GPS.
Oh, Oh, that's actually a who's back to. See, Lamello's tattoo.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Defeat. That's hot shit.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 2 Anyone have GIFs or GIFs?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Zach said that. What's your favorite GIF?

Speaker 1 It rotates. It does.

Speaker 6 Nick Cage.

Speaker 6 That's a good one. Okay, let's run.

Speaker 7 I like the Jack Nicholson from Anger Management and Lee Smiling.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. Yeah, the Verbal GIF, verbal GIF.

Speaker 6 Or Kramer.

Speaker 1 Gideon. Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 Or Shania Twain.

Speaker 2 It's not the Mount Rushmore of N, Hank.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What was it? Not the Mount Rushmore of what?

Speaker 2 The letter N.

Speaker 2 Talking about Michael Richards over here.

Speaker 1 Would Mick Griddle have played?

Speaker 1 What's up? Would you griddle have played?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't Mick Griddle? I know it's in, but is that the pretext for all of them?

Speaker 1 I was like, dude, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 They use it for every Gordita crunch. Yeah.
Ooh, Gordita.

Speaker 2 Yeah, leaving out the crispy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the cheesy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Grapes.

Speaker 1 Gumbo.

Speaker 2 Grapes are good. Yeah, gumbo, we said.
Goats.

Speaker 1 Pretty good list.

Speaker 2 Goat cheese. Pretty good.
You guys like goat cheese? Not a big goat cheese. Goat cheese is good in a salad.

Speaker 1 Greg Olson, George Kittle.

Speaker 1 Shout out to our boys.

Speaker 1 This one got turned out. Oh, green lights.

Speaker 2 Green lights is good. Green lights are great.

Speaker 1 Yep. Green lights are great.
Guts, the show. Do you have it?

Speaker 1 Guts.

Speaker 1 What did you say?

Speaker 1 This one got turned down for Max Grandparents. Oh, yeah.
PFT said that. Oh, we said it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Galaxy.

Speaker 1 The galaxy? The galaxy. The Milky Way galaxy.

Speaker 2 Pretty fucking sick.

Speaker 6 Grateful. Best.

Speaker 1 Gash. Gilmore.
Gash. Gash.
You guys. Oh, Gilmore Girls.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. Gilmore Guys, the podcast.

Speaker 1 Gilmore Guys, the podcast.

Speaker 2 Fuck yes. Pretty good.

Speaker 1 Groot, the superhero. Oh, wait, who? Groot?

Speaker 1 Groot. I don't know who that is.
I'm aware of a reference.

Speaker 6 Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, I watched Guardians of Galaxy.

Speaker 1 Great movie. I thought they were talking about Grew from

Speaker 2 Despicable Me.

Speaker 1 Also, another great G? Yeah, good G.

Speaker 1 He kind of runs the Minions, you know? He is the Overseer of the Minions. Yeah, he's the ringleader of the Minions.
That's got to be a sick Arsenal to have. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Max, when you talk about this draft, who do you got?

Speaker 1 i'll say this so we've been doing this on grit week on the rv if i remember correctly

Speaker 1 the two look at that chick the two memorable moments from uh the rv is max not liking titty and liking girls and look at that chick

Speaker 2 look at that chick with strong yeah put those together

Speaker 1 so you don't like titty fucking you like girls that wasn't grit week though that was beer like no i'm talking about just the rv yeah yep yeah but did you put those i'm done i'm done participating in this conversation.

Speaker 4 No titty fucking.

Speaker 1 I'm done participating in this conversation.

Speaker 7 I will not raise my voice.

Speaker 2 No, you didn't get rage bait.

Speaker 1 Nope. At all.

Speaker 5 Means just kept telling me that he was like, relax, relax. It's fine.
Just give me the mic.

Speaker 1 He just kept trying to take the mic. He didn't even know he picked GTA.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You blacked out GTA.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 It's time for Charles Barkley. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 1 The most special guest. I appreciate that.
You can probably hear that laugh and know exactly.

Speaker 1 Special guest. Damn.
Very special guest.

Speaker 1 This is Grit Week. It's presented by Hey Dude.
So we start every Grit Week with the same question. Yes.
Charles Barkley is our guest, the man, the myth, the legend.

Speaker 1 Let's start with what does the word grit mean to you?

Speaker 1 Good question. I think it's just your competitive nature.
Like

Speaker 1 talent is different for everybody. The notion that everybody's going to be on the same talent level.

Speaker 1 When I see grit, I think about TJ McConnell.

Speaker 1 Like just like that dude gives you everything he's got and that's all you can ask for any player.

Speaker 1 I think me as a performer player, an announcer, and a fan, I hate when you can see people just half-assing it.

Speaker 1 You know, we're the luckiest people in the world to get paid a ton of money to do something stupid.

Speaker 1 You know, bless all these guys, but we're the luckiest people in the world to get to do something silly and fun. It's facts.
And you make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 You make more money than teachers, firemen, policemen, doctors, anybody in the armed service to dribble a stupid ball or hit up a stupid ball or carry a stupid ball.

Speaker 2 We're going to talk about guys that do that. Yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 We're the really dumbest job.

Speaker 1 But man,

Speaker 1 grit to me, just like just compete, man. I can live with the results, win or lose, because you know, that's going to happen.
But if you compete and like give it your best, that's all you can ask for.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think you show grit with your golf game.

Speaker 1 You never quit, you got better. Yeah, you know, I've been to hell and back.

Speaker 1 I just think I remember I forgot to put on deodorant.

Speaker 1 That's great. You know, I was just thinking.
We can get you some. I will get you some.
I forgot to get, you know, so, you know, I hate when you put on a colored shirt and you get to white marks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And let me tech, check.

Speaker 1 Listen, fuck.

Speaker 1 I forgot to put on the shirt.

Speaker 1 Go to the Edgewood shopping.

Speaker 1 I need some antiperspirant. I'll go to the hotel.
No, because you know, there's nothing worse when you put on a shirt and you get to all the white marks.

Speaker 1 And I specifically put on my shirt and I said, I got to remember, don't forget to put on deodorant. And I forgot it like a damn moron.

Speaker 1 But you know what? It's forward to go back to your original question. You know,

Speaker 1 it really sucked to be bad at golf. It was frustrating because I'd never been bad at anything in my life.

Speaker 1 And because I was really good, and then I got too many lessons.

Speaker 1 And when I was standing over the golf ball, ball, I had like 10 guys talking to me. And I ain't going to lie, I was terrified over the ball.

Speaker 1 And the best thing that ever happened to me, I was at Tom Lehman's golf tournament, and I met a guy named Stan Utley. And I told him, I stand, I don't even play anymore.

Speaker 1 I just play for charity, embarrass myself for charity. And then the next thing I know, he says, hey, give me a chance.
I stand. I've given up because I'd worked with Butch, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'd work with every teacher in the world. My brain was fried.
And man, thank goodness I met Stan Utley and he bought me back from death.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say grit too is your career, like your high school career, growing.

Speaker 1 You grew six inches from junior to senior year? Yeah, I was a bag, a 5'10 backup, chubby point guard. And I grew from 5'10 to 6'5 in one year.

Speaker 1 And, you know, people always ask me, I didn't have any body issues. I was never in pain.
You know, when I got back to school, I knew I'd grown a little bit. I didn't know I had grown that much.

Speaker 1 So I went from being a chubby backup point guard to a 6'5

Speaker 1 all-state player. So, man,

Speaker 1 it was a great time. Yeah, and the story goes that, like, you know, you weren't recruited until the very end of your high school career in the state tournament.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, that's when you started to get people to look at you. That's, that's kind of a crazy sliding doors moment where if you don't ball out in the state tournament.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was crazy because I had never gotten a letter

Speaker 1 going into my senior year. So most, because people always say, Charles Parker came out of of nowhere.
That's because I grew.

Speaker 1 But, you know, most teams have already contacted who they want to recruit and offer them scholarships. So, the turning point was me.
I played against one of the best players in the country.

Speaker 1 Name was Bobby Lee Hurt. Went to Alabama, and people wasn't sure because I was only like 6'5.
They didn't know if I could play against big dudes. And Bobby Lee was like 6'10.

Speaker 1 And he was the number one big man in the country. And I think I had 20-20.

Speaker 1 And then that's when I started getting letters. But it was really just Auburn, Alabama, UAB, some smaller schools.
And

Speaker 1 the best decision I ever made was going to Auburn.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 in fairness, the only reason I went to Auburn is because they sucked.

Speaker 1 And it was actually a really good thing because.

Speaker 1 I was really close with my mother and grandmother. So UAB is only 30 minutes from my house, but they actually made it to the Sweet 16 and had everybody coming back.

Speaker 1 Alabama got Bobby Lee and Ennis, but they made it to the Sweet 16 and had everybody coming back. So when I went down to Auburn, they had lost like 12, 13 games in a row.

Speaker 1 And I was like, yeah, this is a place for me. Y'all suck.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, I tell, you know, all these dummies who go to college today and transfer, I says, you have to make an educated guess or you're going to get to play. Right.

Speaker 1 I says, don't give me the education, BS, because if you want an education, you can get that anywhere. But the number one reason when you would stop, when you would jock, you want to play.
Right.

Speaker 1 And the best thing that happened to me was going to Auburn, getting to play right away. Because if I went to Alabama or

Speaker 1 UAB first, Alabama second, I wasn't going to get to play. But I tell all these kids, you see these dummies all the time now, well, didn't you see who they had on the team when you went there? Right.

Speaker 1 Then they transferred, like, I'm not getting to play. I'm like, dummy, then you, what were you doing when you were on your recruiting trip?

Speaker 1 I probably shouldn't go to Duke if I'm playing behind Cooper Flag. Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 I mean, so these kids, they make these bonehead decisions. I said, man, go where you're going to get a chance to play.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 How How much money would Charles Barkley have made in the NIL era?

Speaker 1 Oh, I'd have made a lot. I mean, you know, I would have made a lot.
But you know what? They've got to fix this thing because it is totally out of whack and out of control right now.

Speaker 1 It's an unsustainable business model to big donors like myself for millions of dollars every year. I love my colleague, but I'm not going to go broke giving them money every year.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just an unsustainable business model

Speaker 1 to pay kids $20, $30 million a year.

Speaker 1 There's no business that can do that.

Speaker 1 I'm not against guys making money.

Speaker 1 Bless, like whatever guys make in NBA and college, bless them. But this model we got in college now where you can just pay kids tens of millions of dollars, that's just unsustainable.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Inside the NBA, I'm happy it's still going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm happy it's going on, but

Speaker 1 it's going to be interesting. Yeah, this will be different.
It's going to be different. But you know, that's the bad thing about it.
We don't know how it's going to be different.

Speaker 1 Right, but it could be different, good. You never know.
Well, you know, we have questions. Yeah.
Like, normally, the number one time on our show is after the game. Right.

Speaker 1 We get like four to five minutes to shoot the shit. That's the magic.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But me and Ernie have talked about it. Like, are we going to get to do that? Are they going to say, we got to go to the sports center? Right.

Speaker 1 And, like, first of all, it's an honor to work for ESPN because they're the biggest sports network in the history of television.

Speaker 1 But like, when we have those 45 minutes and it's like one o'clock in the morning and we can just just go play. And it gets weird.
And it is weird. Yeah.
Like that's the magic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But are they going to say, no, guys, y'all got 15 minutes. We got to go to sports center.
Yeah. I hope not.
No, I don't think because, well, here's my question.

Speaker 1 You guys had like a, basically a two-year everyone love fest, which you deserved. But it had to feel good.

Speaker 1 But I think the fans of Inside the NBA are so vocal that if they mess with it, you're going to have an army behind you being like. Yeah, but ESPN got their own thing.
Like

Speaker 1 they're going to have to get to sports center. I know, but there's a lot of pressure when you when there's something that's that good.
You guys are that good. But that's the thing.
We don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We don't know.

Speaker 1 Because everybody can say right now

Speaker 1 we're gonna leave everything the same. But like if the game ends

Speaker 1 The sports center gonna say, no, y'all got 45 minutes to shoot the shit, or we need to go to sports center in 15 or 20 minutes.

Speaker 1 It's gonna be a learning curve. So like I say, we're excited because the main reason everybody got to keep their job.

Speaker 1 Because I ain't going to lie, it really sucked, really sucked the last couple years, especially the last year.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 for me personally, I learned a lot about myself. What I mean by that is

Speaker 1 I've never been around people who had to worry about paying their bills. Right.
You know, because all my friends are basketball players and rich people. Right.

Speaker 1 And they're like, you know, and the people I've been working with for 25 years, because we always go out and drink after the show, hearing guys talk talk about mortgage, I was like saying to myself, What's a mortgage?

Speaker 1 Say, I gotta, I can't send my, I gotta get my kid into a public school instead of private. And I was sitting there like, man, you are kind of out of touch with reality, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 these people I really genuinely like and love because I've been with them for 25 years. But to hear them talk about, man, we're going to lose our job in six months.

Speaker 1 And then as it gets closer, you can see the concern. And I thought TNT,

Speaker 1 our bosses did a shitty job. They did an awful job of keeping us abreast.
I'll give you an example. Like,

Speaker 1 we were playing golf during the playoffs, and we were reading the internet, finding out if we were going to get fired or not. Right.
And I was like, TNT, our bosses, they sucked, plain and simple.

Speaker 1 They're like, yo, man.

Speaker 1 Just tell us. Yeah, let us know.
Shoot us straight. Shoot us straight.
These are real people. We literally were playing golf during the playoffs, looking at the internet.

Speaker 1 Then one story said we lost it. The next story said we still in negotiation.
Then we lost it. We're still in negotiations.
And TNT never came to us like grown folks and said, hey, guys,

Speaker 1 we're probably going to lose the NBA, which we could have understood.

Speaker 1 But I thought they sucked. I told them they sucked because there's a way you treat people.

Speaker 1 Because if they had came to us and said, hey, you know what?

Speaker 1 It's a lot of money. Because, you know, we were paying $1.2 billion a year and it went to $2.5 billion.
That's a lot of money for 11 years.

Speaker 1 If they had said it's not a good deal, we would have understood. But to let us hear about it, and I'll tell you something really shitty about it too.

Speaker 1 I found out that we got traded to ESPN from ESPN.

Speaker 1 That's guy. Yeah.
No, so just a true story. So I'm sitting at home on a Friday night.

Speaker 1 I get a text because all the rumors in the air, we didn't know anything. I'm sitting at home on a Friday night.
I get a text from Scott Van Pelt,

Speaker 1 Brian Winhorse, El Duncan, and Bob Myers. Welcome me to the family.
Like, what family? What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Then, then, about an hour and a half later, I get a call from TNT. They're like, well, the story broke.
I says, well, you probably could have gave us a heads up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've known for a couple of days.

Speaker 1 I says,

Speaker 1 you traded us to ESPN, and we have to hear about it on the internet. I said, that's just not the way you do business.
I said, Ernie Johnson deserved, because he's the godfather.

Speaker 1 Ernest Johnson's just not here. He got traded from ESPN people of the internet.

Speaker 2 Right. Was it a full trade or are you guys still doing work for TNT?

Speaker 1 Well, that's actually a great question. Great question.
Thank you. They're trying to do something.
We don't know what it is yet. We taped a pilot and it was a shit pilot.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it was brutal. It was brutal.

Speaker 2 Wait, tell me about the shit pilot. I want to hear more about the shit pilot.
So

Speaker 1 we did four segments.

Speaker 1 One segment, and one thing I got to give TNT credit. They said it was awful and it's never going to see the love.

Speaker 1 So we did like four segments. One segment was Kenny doing fashion.
One segment was like Shaq doing Shaq

Speaker 1 the funny section you do. I forget.

Speaker 1 We did axe throwing

Speaker 1 and then we did finger painting. Okay.

Speaker 1 We did four like we did like four 15 minute

Speaker 1 sections and I was sitting there like

Speaker 1 I think this is stupid. I don't know how stupid it's going to be until I see it.

Speaker 1 And when we walked out the studio that night, we're like, that's the stupidest shit we've ever done.

Speaker 1 And that's my major concern with TNT.

Speaker 1 I think we can handle the ESPN portion, but I don't want them doing something stupid with our show to people like, man, they really ruined that show. Right.
Yeah, right. I mean, the pilot.

Speaker 1 But I will say, I give them credit. They said the pilot was shitty.

Speaker 2 That's an important thing.

Speaker 1 It's important to know. Yeah, so we're finally straight with you.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I said,

Speaker 1 that's all you want. want.
Yeah. Because I don't want us, number one, you gave us a great company.
I've enjoyed our show all these years and people love our show.

Speaker 1 Don't just do something stupid just to do it.

Speaker 2 It's great television. And the pilot should be just put you four guys in a room.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The microphones. And that's it.
Well, the problem is Ken and Shaq don't watch sports. So, like, I can talk about the NFL.

Speaker 1 Like, I got up this morning and watched Sabalinka play. That was a hell of a match.
You know, I get up and watch all sports. I do.
I love football is my favorite sport and boxing.

Speaker 1 Those are my two favorite. But Kenny Shaq are not going to watch sports.
Ernie will watch. Ernie went to the French Open and he saw that amazing final between Alcatraz and Center.

Speaker 1 And I was sitting at home and I was texting Ernie, this is the greatest match I've ever seen. It's incredible.
He's still there because I saw him in the semifinal.

Speaker 1 And then I said, yo, you please tell me you're at this match. It was the greatest thing I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Let me get your thoughts on the NFL.
You're a big football fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a big Eagles fan. Shout out, Go Birds.

Speaker 2 Okay, all right. So, how are we feeling about the Birds rolling it back next year?

Speaker 1 Well, they're going to be really good. I think the number one thing you have to worry about when you win is

Speaker 1 guys relaxing. You have to change your mindset when you win.
You have to realize, like, we're going to be the hunted, not the hunter.

Speaker 1 But I think with Saquon and Jalen and

Speaker 1 Coach Nick,

Speaker 1 you know, they got,

Speaker 1 Howard Roseman, probably the best GM in the NFL now.

Speaker 1 They're going to be good. But man, you have to hope, you have to be, because when you go that deep in the playoffs, you have to be healthy.

Speaker 1 You don't plan an extra three or four or five games, man. It takes a toll on you.
But the main thing, you know, man, Saquon was a gift from heaven. I can't wait to meet him.
I never met my cousin.

Speaker 1 He's a Barkley, so if you're that good as a Barkley, I'm going to claim you. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 So I'm really looking forward to this year. I'm really looking forward to college football.
As usual, Auburn still be better, but I'm really excited about Coach Belichick at Carolina.

Speaker 1 Man, I'm really pulling he's a good friend of mine uh uh and i really want to see him do well down there i was telling big cat last night we were talking about belichek that yeah

Speaker 2 the last couple months for for belichek have not

Speaker 1 been good well it's probably made him think like he's spent what not been good

Speaker 1 with team jordan yeah we love jordan

Speaker 1 we've had her back

Speaker 1 she needs more power she yeah she needs to stay stand down no no no no she needs to run the program no no let hey you know

Speaker 1 i i

Speaker 1 struggle whether to call coach,

Speaker 1 but I prefer to stay out of people's personality. Yeah, you got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But she's got to stand down. Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 1 Because you got to understand something. They're using her to get to Bill.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And she has to understand that because people don't like Bill. And he deserves some blame for that because the way he treated the media, now...

Speaker 1 the way it ended in New England, they want to get him back.

Speaker 1 So they're using her to get to him. I just hope he's successful because he's a great dude.
He's the greatest pro football coach ever because Coach Sabin's the greatest college coach ever.

Speaker 1 I want to see him finish on a high note.

Speaker 1 That's my number one concern. I want to see him finish on a high note.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just think the last, what, 20, 25 years of Belichick's career, he's avoided the media. He's like, these jackals.
I'm never going to give him anything. And then the last.

Speaker 1 You can do that when you're winning. You can do that when you're winning.
And then you're going to be.

Speaker 1 See, that's like these guys annoy me. They're like, you can treat the media how you want to when you win.
Yep. But you got to understand when you're a loser, they're going to come for you.

Speaker 1 That's like these golfers now. Well, I don't have to talk to the media.
I'm like, well, you run to them when you do well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you got a product. See, that's the thing.
You know, like we're in a business relationship with the media. I tell these guys, yo, man, that's the reason we make all this money.
The media pays it.

Speaker 1 But you have to understand something. When you want to sell a product, you go to the media.
When you play great, you run to the media. When you play like shit, you can't avoid the media.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm starting to get pissed off with some of these golfers now. I'm like, when you got a new product come on, you go on TV

Speaker 1 and hype it and talk about it. But when you play bad, they're going to write bad things about you.
That's the way this is a business relationship. I understand it.

Speaker 1 I tell all the guys, yo, man, when you do good, they're going to write good stuff about you. When you do bad, they're going to talk bad about you.

Speaker 1 If you don't understand the business relationship, you need to get another real job. Did you understand that when you were playing? I did.

Speaker 1 Dr. J, who was great for me, Moses Malone's the most important person in my career because he made me lose 50 pounds.
I didn't realize I was fat and lazy until he told me.

Speaker 1 I said, because I wasn't getting to play early in my career. I said, Moses, why am I not getting to play? He says, well, Chuck, you're fat and you're lazy.
I'm like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 He says, which part did you not understand?

Speaker 1 He says, son, you really talented, but you weighed 300 pounds. You can get away with that in high school.
You can get away with it in college. You can't get away with it in the NBA.

Speaker 1 And this guy worked with me before practice, after practice. He said, let's lose 10 pounds.
I noticed the difference right away. He said, let's lose 20.

Speaker 1 And now I'm starting to get the start. He said, let's lose 30.
Let's lose 40. And I get to 250.
And that's what I played at my whole career.

Speaker 1 But if it wasn't for him constructively criticizing me, he wasn't doing it to be mean. He was constructively criticizing me.
That's why I like a lot of these punks today.

Speaker 1 You know, constructive criticism is not. trying to be critical.
Sometimes you need it. Yeah, you need the straight answer.
Yeah, you need to straight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, so Moses is the most important person in my career. But doc taught me how to deal with the media.
He said, the first question, like some guys in the media, they're just trying to get clicks.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm so old. They didn't call them clicks back then.
Yeah, just trying to get your attention. It's on papers.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he says, the first question you have to ask, is the criticism fair? I said, what do you mean? He says, some criticisms are fair. He says.

Speaker 1 Then you say if it's unfair, you let it go. Because those are guys that are trying to get attention and get clicks and things like that.

Speaker 1 But the first question you have to ask yourself is the criticism fair? And that taught me how to deal with the media. Yeah, that's really smart.
I know you're not a role model famously. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You are a role model for me in gambling. Thank you.
Because you have the right approach to it where it's something fun. I love to gamble.
I don't want to be shamed for it.

Speaker 1 I like to do it.

Speaker 1 I've been blessed to make more money as I go along. So obviously I gamble.

Speaker 1 You have to rein it in, though. Yeah, of course.
I could.

Speaker 1 So I love gambling, but I had, I became a total crazy person

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I won a million dollars

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 1 10 times.

Speaker 1 I've lost a million dollars probably 30 times. Right, right.

Speaker 1 And what I've, so every time I went to Vegas,

Speaker 1 I'd be up $300,000, $400,000, $500,000. My friends would be like, dude, you got to quit.
We We up. Let's go.
Let's go get drunk and have some fun. I'm like, no.

Speaker 1 In my mind, I was like, I want to win a million because I'd done it a few times.

Speaker 1 And then I just kept losing. And I lost a lot, millions and millions and millions.
And I quit for like two years.

Speaker 1 And I was out with my friends one night. We like to smoke cigars and drink.
I said, man, I sure miss Vegas, miss casinos.

Speaker 1 And one of my things I demand out of my friends, man, be honest with me at all times.

Speaker 1 Just tell me the truth I can deal with it he says yo man gambling ain't your problem being a fucking idiot is your problem

Speaker 1 explain they're like dude gambling is peaks and valleys we have sit there with you you be up 300 400 000 be like Chuck let's go get drunk for the night quit but you want to get to the imaginary million then you lose that And then you lose the whole million credit line you got.

Speaker 1 He said, dude, let's go to Vegas, win a couple hundred thousand dollars, lose a couple hundred thousand dollars, and then have a fun weekend. Yeah.
And I said,

Speaker 1 okay, you know what? Let's try this. So now,

Speaker 1 because, you know, I live in Scottsdale, so I go to Vegas. We go to Vegas every two to three weeks.
There's nothing like a football weekend there in Sportsbook. And it's like, okay,

Speaker 1 we know how much credit you got. Let's win a couple hundred thousand, enjoy watching all the games.
We lose a couple hundred thousand. Let's quit, go drink, we play golf.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, because I'm not going to be mad if I lose a couple hundred thousand dollars. Right.
Now, when I lose a million, I'm depressed for like a week. It's not funny anymore.

Speaker 1 It's not fun anymore. Right.
But I had to be like, okay, dude, you love to gamble. Go and lose a couple hundred thousand.
You ain't going to be mad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you win a couple hundred thousand dollars. Oh, man, we had a great weekend.
Yeah. And that's what I do now.

Speaker 1 You also, I like your honesty about it because I try to do the same thing where it's like, listen, I'm a loser. Yeah.
I lose. I've lost my whole life.
No, there's times I win.

Speaker 1 Hey, let me tell you something. My casino host, who's a great friend of mine.
Well, I'm, are you sure? Yes, yeah, if you didn't gamble, if you guys still

Speaker 1 fall in love with a stripper, that's right. So, I got a couple hosts: Dan Napier and Bill Munson, the two of my hosts, they've been friends for a long time.

Speaker 1 He says, Dude, we don't care what you when you win, we like it when you win. You know why you're gonna come back, right? He says, My job as your host

Speaker 1 is just to get you here as many times as possible because we're going to win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I said, what? He says, they don't build these pretty ass buildings because people are winning.

Speaker 1 He says, we like it when you win. We know you're definitely going to come back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he says, my job as your host is just to get you here as many times as possible. And we're going to give you all the toys and trinkets.
You know, they're going to send a private jet for you.

Speaker 1 I'm getting a case of Christopher Rosé. Thanks, CL, for getting me hooked on that.

Speaker 1 And he's like, you get all this free crap that ain't free if you lose.

Speaker 1 But he said, he says, dude, we love it when you win because we know you're coming back for sure. But our job is to get you here as much as possible because the more you come, you're going to lose.

Speaker 1 Because I always tell people, I hate when guys say I'm a good gambler, don't tell me you're a good gambler when you're getting shit cards.

Speaker 1 How in the hell are you a good gambler if the dealer's turning over 20 and you got 17? But that's exactly what, like, I hate, I hate when guys are like, yeah, like, I always win.

Speaker 1 You don't always win stopping. This is going to get you the biggest, like, you're going to win this bet.

Speaker 1 You're going to lose. You're going to lose it.
I like to do it. It's fun.
It's fun. That's a good way to look at it.
And so I'll tell you, Ashley, the only way to win. It's quit.
No.

Speaker 1 Football,

Speaker 1 gambling on sports is the only way to win. But

Speaker 1 you have to bet the money line. Yeah.
Where you're only going to win cents on the dollar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 teams always win. They just never cover.
I know. I know.
But if you would bet, this is just my opinion. If you bet the money line and say, instead of trying to win $1,000, win $50,000,

Speaker 1 win $500 or $750 and happy with that.

Speaker 1 That's the way I think the only way you can win, betting. You're sounding like my, I had a bet for a while that was called the can't lose parlay that actually got banned.
It became illegal.

Speaker 1 It lost all the time. That was the joke.
And I said it was a can't lose parlay. I would never makes it like a game.

Speaker 1 I would never do parlays parlays are the stupidest thing ever listen there's an official like transcript the massachusetts gambling commission being like dan katz is the worst gambler of all time it's well known and it's like there we go hey you know it i went through a period of like two months where i tried to play parlays and you hit always hey three out of four you always hit three out of four and the thing that pisses you off is always the fourth one yeah yeah yeah i was like drives you down that's why you get them damn good ass odds i says yo man we can never do parlays i said that's the reason they're giving you 10, 12 to 1, because you always hit three out of four and it pisses you off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also, I want to give you a quick compliment. We saw you at the casino last night.
You were playing blackjack. I feel like this is not a normal move.
You were playing a significant amount.

Speaker 1 I think it was whatever it was, $25,000 a hand. Guy next to you, your friend, was playing $200 a hand.

Speaker 1 I feel like most guys don't let that happen, where it's like, but you're just there with your friends. Yes.
And that's a cool move. I only play with my friends.
Right. Because

Speaker 1 they all ask me, do you want me to take this hit? Yeah, right. Because I'm playing 25,000 a hand and he's playing for 200.
I says, take it. And then if he wins and I lose, I'm like, okay, he asked me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's nothing worse than playing with a fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 Back in the day, I used to play with an idiot. And they take a shit hit and win, they go crazy, and they fuck the rest of the table.
Right. And you can't beat the shit out of them because you want to.

Speaker 1 That's nothing.

Speaker 1 That's why I don't play with random strangers. You're like,

Speaker 1 you hit that.

Speaker 1 Dylana's got 16, and you hit that, and they hit, and they fuck the rest of the table. Because nobody else is going to take a hit.

Speaker 1 You know, the dealer's got 16. You're not supposed to hit.
And they get like a four or five and they get 20 or 21.

Speaker 1 And I said, you weren't supposed to take that hit. Yeah.
Then the dealer turns over. I'm like, oh, my God.

Speaker 2 And when that person's playing at the end of the table, right next to the dealer, and they fuck up. They fuck the rest of the table.

Speaker 1 First base and third base are really important.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, if you're going to sit at third, I'm like, you better ask me my damn opinion. Exactly.
Because you're not paying for what I'm playing for. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, your process for betting on NFL Sunday, you like to bet favorites, money line?

Speaker 1 I do. I think that's the only way you can win.

Speaker 2 I think, well, so my strategy is it's a bad strategy, so you should not follow it. I do a lot of reading going into the weekend.
I feel like I'm ready.

Speaker 2 I read what all the experts are saying, and they're usually telling me to take Stuart.

Speaker 1 Don't ever do that again. Like, take stupid bags.
Steve Young. I hate Steve Young to this day.

Speaker 1 So, Steve Young, I'm in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 I had went to Coach Belichick's practice

Speaker 1 and I'm like, and I go on TV and I says, man, I think the Giants are going to win the Super Bowl. I said live on TNT.
I think the Giants are going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I say, I don't think the Patriots are going to go 17, 18, or no. I says,

Speaker 1 the Giants are going to win.

Speaker 1 I've been to Vegas 26 straight years for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I get on the plane. I get up up Saturday.
We go play golf. I get up Sunday.
We go play golf. I make the mistake of turning on the TV.
I said, I got the Giants all weekend.

Speaker 1 Steve Young gets on TV and says, guys, we're going to have the first undefeated season since the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 I said, oh, shit. Every time I see Steve Young here, I just hate him so much.
You let him know? I do. Yeah, yeah.
He says.

Speaker 1 He says, I can't believe that I'm, this is the first time in my life I've seen a team go undefeated since the Dolphins. He said, I was a little kid when the Dolphins won, I think it was 72.

Speaker 1 He said, we're going to have the first undefeated team in NFL history since the 72 Dolphins.

Speaker 1 I tell my guys, man, I just saw Steve.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the last thing you listened to. That's the last thing.
That's why I never guessed. Let's go back to your point, man.
I don't want to listen to guys on, like, you listen.

Speaker 1 I don't want to read too much. Like, I start, I wait to normally Thursday before I start watching NFL,

Speaker 1 NFL Live. I'm like, okay, that's a good point.
Okay, that's a good point. But then I said, okay, I take what they say because, you know, they're good at it.
But then you got to make your own decision.

Speaker 1 Because I learned from Steve Young, man, because I was like, man, they're going to,

Speaker 1 Mike, because I remember, because if you go back and look, I remember in the press conference, a guy said, Tom Brady, he says,

Speaker 1 They said you're only going to score

Speaker 1 17 points.

Speaker 1 And Tom kind of snickered like, oh, they're going to hold us to 17 points because, you know, they were averaging like 35, 40 that year.

Speaker 1 He says, yeah, somebody said, if Tom said, we're only going to score 17 points. I don't even know if they scored 17.
I mean, because that defense was ferocious.

Speaker 1 But, no, man, I try not to. I listen to them, but they get them wrong all the time, too, now.

Speaker 2 I read the gambling guys that tell you to take the least fun bets ever, the ones that you hate watching, like the unders.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I don't want to sit here rooting for no points.

Speaker 1 So one of the reasons what drives me crazy is when a favorite is winning and they don't cover, because like halfway through the third quarter, I started rooting for the upset because I know they know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Because you know it's absolutely right away, oh shit, they're not going to cover. I want them to lose.
They're going to win the game. You flip, you're like, I'm against them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm like, they're going to win the game, but they're not going to cover. That pisses me off.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 That pisses me off sometimes.

Speaker 1 Are you at all nervous that Wemby is going to be like generational talent and you're going to have to go to San Antonio a bunch for the NBA Finals?

Speaker 1 Listen, man,

Speaker 1 I want the Spurs to do good

Speaker 1 because my love for Coach Popovich,

Speaker 1 you know, I like messing with them. They some great fans down there.
It's funny. I mean, and they actually feel like they've taken it like gone back.
Half horse.

Speaker 1 Yeah. See, you know what? See, you guys are so much younger than me.
See, the world is so fucked up now. I'm so old when you could actually joke.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I tell people, remember when you could actually tell jokes back in the day and people laughed?

Speaker 1 yeah now they're like oh you're gonna get counsel you're gonna get fired I'm like you know sometimes a joke is just a joke right that's the thing I hate about this whole society today

Speaker 1 I think that people

Speaker 1 I trust people they're like he's joking

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 he's not like if I called a person fat that's rude and disrespectful it's punching down yeah I would never punch I would never say that to I would never walk up on a woman and say you're fat that's just rude and inappropriate number one I'm big myself.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this thing has gotten so out of whack now. Come on, man.
I trust the public.

Speaker 1 Y'all know I'm just joking about something, but it's gotten so out of whack. Like, I can't imagine your guy, you guys, like,

Speaker 1 you have to worry what you say

Speaker 1 all the time. Which is stupid.

Speaker 1 You're right, though. Yeah.
I think that,

Speaker 1 let's say, if I heard y'all say something, I'm like, that was a joke. Right.
Fucking relax. Right.
Like, but somebody's always, somebody's offended by everything. Someone, yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe Taylor Swift fans.

Speaker 1 Somebody's offended by everything.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, it is. Except Galveston, you were right about Galveston.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. That is

Speaker 1 correct. First of all, I had to go back.
Everybody was great in Galveston. Uh-huh.
Because, number one, I didn't want to get traded from Phoenix. I was kind of going through the doldrums.

Speaker 1 And the Rockets bring me in. I was like, you know, I want to finish my career in Phoenix.
They're like, well, we have training camp at the beach. I'm like, oh, okay, that's a plus.

Speaker 1 So I like, you know, because I did want to finish my career in Phoenix.

Speaker 1 I got shocked by the trade. And I'm like, okay, at least I can spend a week at the beach to get my head right going into my last couple of years of my career.
I drive down to Gavson.

Speaker 1 We right on the water. I'm looking, damn, that water kind of dirty.

Speaker 1 And I say, yo, what's going on over here? They're like, well, Gavson is located. So we got a beach that we kept.

Speaker 1 You have to wear your shoes on the beach and the water is up in your ankles and it's dirty, all and garbage. We ain't at the beach, we in hell.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you don't wear shoes and galvan, you get you get like tar.

Speaker 1 What good is having a beach if you can't walk in the water? Like, there's a beach right across here, but we can't go on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can drive on the beach, Galveston.

Speaker 1 There's like motor oils. And I had to go back.
The people were really nice,

Speaker 1 but man, there's no need. What a good is having a beach if you can't use it.
I agree with you 100%.

Speaker 2 Yes. Can we talk about a great beach, Barcelona? Oh, my dream team?

Speaker 1 That was great.

Speaker 2 How much fun? How much fucking fun was

Speaker 1 it was crazy?

Speaker 1 You know, the best thing about it, the guys were so cool. We got along so well.
We had so much respect for each other. Now, the practice was crazy.

Speaker 1 We're trying to kill each other because a lot of egos going on out there. But, man, we had so much fun.
I mean,

Speaker 1 the guys were so much fun to be around.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 Magic and Michael and me and Scotty played cards every night for three, four, five hours. Who was the best?

Speaker 1 Whoever got the best hands Michael is a Michael tries to buy the pot he didn't realize we all rich

Speaker 1 okay we all got money dude yeah he always tries to buy the pot like I'm gonna raise you like we got money too fool

Speaker 1 but that was so much fun we went through a couple cases of beer every night

Speaker 1 Larry Bird and Patrick Jordan became like great friends. We made up shirts, Harry and Larry.

Speaker 1 I mean, they became great friends. Man, it was so cool.
Was there ever a moment where you're like, we got a game tomorrow? We got to be ready for this, or was it like, we're the best team of all time?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 we,

Speaker 1 Chuck Daly says,

Speaker 1 you guys do know if we lose, this will be the greatest upset in sports history, right? We're like, oh, never even thought about it like that. Right.

Speaker 1 He says, you guys, we can't be fucking around.

Speaker 1 And then from that point on, we're like,

Speaker 1 kill, just kill. You know, that's why, you know, people like, we weren't trying to win games by 60, 70 points, but Chuck says, this would be the greatest upset in sports history.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They would never stop talking about it. They call y'all the dream team.
It'll be a nightmare if we lose.

Speaker 1 And Chuck was so awesome. He had two different starting lineups.
Everybody just like, hey, you're going to start this game. You're going to start.
And so the guys were just amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was fun, too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 you ever with Shaq and be like hey you remember Barcelona

Speaker 1 Shaq wanted to say he was on like the second dream team we're like no you're like on the fourth dream

Speaker 1 and it was fun to go into Barcelona on the beach because we took like an hour and a half two hour walk every day because you know it was a topless beach yeah and we'd be like great

Speaker 1 put a shirt on great

Speaker 1 put a shirt on

Speaker 1 Great, great, great, put a shirt on. Like, we would just walk up and down

Speaker 1 every day down the beach. It was beautiful.
But, you know,

Speaker 1 first of all, we went to the pool because they were topplers at the pools.

Speaker 1 We always went up there and got a case of beer and sit by the pool and watched.

Speaker 1 And as we got that, before we took a nap, we walked on the beach and we just looked at these women like, wow, impressive.

Speaker 1 Please put a shirt on.

Speaker 1 Wow, impressive. We did that like every day.

Speaker 2 So you were the leading scorer on that team, right? Yes. So how did that work out? Was there any like, I know there's a lot of superstars on that team.

Speaker 2 Sometimes, you know, we always joke that there's just one ball that's what we say we don't have shit else to say we're like there's one ball i don't know if these great players are going to play well together but since

Speaker 1 you get to spread around it's easy for great players because they can play without the ball so you can never be a great player if you don't play without the ball and if you play with other great players it's really easy

Speaker 1 um the warriors yeah yeah like the better players you play with the easier the game is. Like when you're a one-man wrecking crew, it ain't no fun at all.

Speaker 1 Like my last few years in Philly, I was by myself basically.

Speaker 1 But when I got traded to Phoenix and got Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson and Mark West and those Setzaballos and those guys, that's why I got MVP.

Speaker 1 I was a much better player in Philly, but because I had Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson and those guys, the game was so much easier for me.

Speaker 2 So was there any like, I don't know if even jealousy is the right word for me. No, we had no jealousy.
No competition. Like, hey, Charles.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was the practice. The practice were the most intense things I've ever been through in my life because

Speaker 1 you had Michael and Clyde who hated each other. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You had Magic and Scotty, and Scotty had just locked Magic up in the finals, they were trying to kill each other.

Speaker 1 You had Carl Malone and me, who was trying to prove who was the best power forward in the world. You had David Robinson and Patrick Young, who was trying to prove who was the best center.

Speaker 1 So the practices were the most intense thing I've ever been through in my life. The games were easy.
Yeah. But let me tell you something.
Those practices were like game sevens. It was incredible.

Speaker 1 The intensity,

Speaker 1 the ego, like it was on, it was, it was, it was crazy. But that was the only time that's that's when it was tough at practice.

Speaker 1 The games were like, hey, man, we're representing the United States, let's get it done.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you guys didn't call a timeout.

Speaker 1 No, the entire tournament. No timeout.
Well, we didn't need no timeout. We just had to whoop ass and take names.
Yeah. All right.
So I know you got to go in a second. This has been awesome.

Speaker 1 Thank y'all for having me. I got a couple quick hitters for you.

Speaker 1 Last time that you had a bar of soap get stuck in your ass. So,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 I travel with my own soap. I've almost, see, it's a conspiracy by these hotels

Speaker 1 that these little ass bars of soap.

Speaker 2 That's how they get you.

Speaker 1 And they're out to get me. They're out to get big asses.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I never used a rag. I just used a bar of soap, scrub my body down.
And I was wiping my ass a couple of times. I had like, oh, my God, that was close.
So now.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you what's funny. I told this story on the podcast, me and Ernie's podcast.

Speaker 2 You stole that name from me, by the way.

Speaker 1 steamroom. Yeah, yeah.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize how many companies made big soaps. So I had, like, I'm not even joking.
Everyone, yeah. I had like 200 bars of soap.

Speaker 1 I gave them to a shelter, but every company had big soap, sent me some to Atlanta. So I had enough soap to fill up a closet.
But now, you know, I travel with my own soap.

Speaker 1 I'm never taking a chance with hotel soap again.

Speaker 1 You can lose those little bars. You can't roll that down.
No, you cannot. I love it.
Because you know, once it's it's in there, it's in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's just going to absorb into your body.

Speaker 1 You're not getting hot back.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I try with my own big bars of soap now.

Speaker 2 All right, so another hygiene question.

Speaker 2 You said one time that you kept Vaseline inside your belly button.

Speaker 1 Yes, I used to. Carl Malone told a story.
I filled it up before the game because there's nothing worse than a person with big lips.

Speaker 1 And during the game, after you lick your lips a few times, they get all crusty and white. So I used to stick Vaseline in my belly button.

Speaker 1 It's a good place to hide it. Yeah.
And Carl Malone's the only person told the world. He says,

Speaker 1 We had him on the show one night. He said, You still keep Vaseline in your belly button? I said, Ernie, go to the next question.

Speaker 1 And he says, Carl, what are you talking about? He says, This dude used to keep Vaseline in his belly button, but I did used to keep Vaseline in my belly button.

Speaker 1 Because, man, let me tell you something. There's nothing worse than a dude with big lips and they're all white and crusty.

Speaker 2 When it like slides out, once you start to sweat, the Vaseline just drips out.

Speaker 1 No, it stays in there a little bit because you had to reload it half time

Speaker 2 i guess if you got to pick a hole to keep vaseline in that's the right hole

Speaker 1 the other hole was blocked by soap yes that's soaked yeah

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Speaker 1 My last question, kind of similar to the soap where you get a bunch of soap, you know, sent to you.

Speaker 1 Have you had recently a guy in Asauna try to give you a bracelet? You know, you told that story that was a bracelet from a guy in the sauna.

Speaker 1 See, Ernie, Shaq and Ernie and Kenny have to make something so pure, so evil.

Speaker 1 The guy gave me, he,

Speaker 1 I wasn't familiar with the bracelet thing. And I was sitting in the steam room and I said, oh man, so cut the bracelet there.
He said, I forget what they call it.

Speaker 1 He said, nice. He said, blah, blah, blah.
It means this, this. And when I get to the front desk, From the health club the guy says, hey, Charles, we got something for you.

Speaker 1 And it was the man's bracelet. And,

Speaker 1 you know, I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. And I made the mistake of telling them fools I work with.

Speaker 1 He didn't give it to me in the steam room. Oh, I thought he did.
But has that happened?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like that would be a copycat thing where if you see Charles Park in the steam room, you're giving him a bracelet. No, he gave it to me.
He left it at the front desk, America.

Speaker 1 He didn't give it to me. I don't want a bracelet from another man in the steam room.
I don't want that.

Speaker 1 But if anyone sees him, if anyone sees Charles in the steam room going forward, give him a bracelet. That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 It's almost worse than he left it for you. He was thinking about you later.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, I really like that.

Speaker 1 I appreciate Jesus' generosity. Yes, yes.
Well, Chuck, you're the best. Thank you.
We're huge, huge fans.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much for giving us some time. Hey, man, it's my pleasure.
Continue success. Yeah.
I'll see you in the casino tonight. Yeah, you see you at the casino and keep giving Biz some shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's my guy. He is the best.
He's literally the best dude ever. He is.
To do this, though, he thanks people too much. He'll thank people for like

Speaker 1 50 minutes afterwards because he's Canadian.

Speaker 1 so just like hey business but a canian thank you canadian are nice people yeah they're very nice great guy but he needs to chill out with maple leaf stuff he thinks he's on the team no man i i'm rooting for them yeah they got to win soon yeah i know they let marner just go but man i i root for that because that's my favorite city in the world toronto is the best city in the world wow i i love it too yeah toronto's the best city in the world easily Chicago Summers, the second best.

Speaker 1 Those are my two favorite places in the world. Yeah.
We got to get you to the office. I'll be there.
Yeah. Sounds good.
All right. Thanks.
Thanks, brothers. Thanks, man.

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Speaker 1 All right, wrapping up the show. Happy Gilmore 2 came out.

Speaker 1 It's not a paid advertisement because we did have Scotty Scheffler on, but we did not get paid by Happy Gilmore 2 to talk about the movie. I just thought everyone was talking about it.

Speaker 1 I feel like we aligned, PFT, we haven't talked about it, Hank, as well, because you watched it.

Speaker 2 But I was watching it on the plane and you were sitting next to me and you probably got my reaction as I was watching.

Speaker 1 Well, I fell asleep for a little bit, but

Speaker 1 I thought it was exactly what I expected going in and that it wasn't the best movie. It was nostalgia.
There was a shitload of cameos.

Speaker 1 I laughed a few times and I went away being like, okay, that was fun.

Speaker 2 I actually thought it was a very funny movie. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'd go as far as very funny, but that's no,

Speaker 2 my mark is, do I laugh more than six or seven times out loud? Yeah, I laughed probably 10 times out loud during the movie. I'll say this.

Speaker 2 A lot of cameos, the movie is pretty much entirely cameos and like throwback jokes. Guy Fieri.
Guy Fieri's in there.

Speaker 2 The best cameo by far, Rob Schneider.

Speaker 1 What a great job Rob schneider did that he's so funny i will watch anything rob schneider's in rob you're the man yeah appreciate you dog yeah and if you do another movie adam sandler we do do a podcast there were some podcast cameos hit us up no it was weird because i saw a lot of people reacting to it i didn't watch it till saturday night so people were reacting on friday people were very upset and i was like

Speaker 1 I just don't understand if you, I would get it if you have to go to a movie theater to see the movie. It's a made-for-streaming movie.
It's, you know, what it's it's going to be.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, I knew going in, I could figure out the storyline within two seconds. Actually, I kind of got a little like the shooter McGavin storyline.

Speaker 1 They did do a good job of switching that one up a little. But

Speaker 1 I like, I expected, I was like, hey, it's an hour and a half. I'm going to sit on my couch and watch it.
I'm going to have a little nostalgia. There's going to be a few moments that make me laugh.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to go away being like, okay, that was fun. Not.
This is the worst movie ever. I can't believe they did this.
I can't believe that people think that.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just, it was such a low bar. You know what I mean? Yeah.
And you don't have to go, you don't have to spend any money. You just sit on your couch and watch it.

Speaker 2 They didn't like try to make a brand new movie pay for Netflix.

Speaker 1 It was like, oh, yeah, everyone has Netflix.

Speaker 2 It was like very much just straight up, hey, we're going to redo Happy Gilmore and we're going to have modern people in it. And it was good.
It was fine. It was funny.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 I liked Ben Stiller returning. I loved how now Brooks and Bryson saved professional golf from an upstart league that comes into it.

Speaker 1 Well, I would love to to to watch the people from live watching happy gilmore being like this is funny they're making fun of us and then brooks and bryson are actually on the side of the pga tour yeah that is awesome i just don't i maybe i'm just maybe i'm out of touch but i never went into it being like this is going to be better than the original happy gilmore no if you if you haven't possible right so that's but i think there were people who thought it was going to be better or on par with the original happy gilmore i never thought that i was like i'm just going to take a little nostalgia blast from the past watch some cameos and burn an hour and a half of where I can turn my brain off and just watch a movie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, now, if you haven't seen Happy Gilmore and you just watched Happy Gilmore 2, it's probably the worst movie of all time. Yeah.
If you've never seen the first one. That's fair.

Speaker 2 But they didn't try to make a brand new movie.

Speaker 2 They were just like, we're going to make a funny, silly movie that is basically all head nods to the Happy Gilmore 1 and also cameos from people that you recognize.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I also think if it was in the movie theaters, people would have a

Speaker 1 legitimate complaint. I watched pretty much all the Adam Sandler straight to streaming movies.
Yeah. And they're all basically the same.

Speaker 1 It's like you turn it on, you know that you basically can just turn your brain off, not have to worry about it being too serious or bum you out. You'll laugh a couple times.

Speaker 1 You're not going to think about it the next day.

Speaker 1 You're not going to be like, that was one of the best movies I ever saw, but you're going to laugh a couple times and be like, all right, that was cool.

Speaker 2 John Daly was great too. John Daly was great.
Great job as an actor. I wouldn't even call him a cameo.
He was like a part of the movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Reggie Bush was great.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Reggie Bush was in there.

Speaker 7 Bad Bunny, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 Bad Bunny was actually incredible.

Speaker 5 I had no idea that that that was Bad Bunny. I thought that he was just an actor.

Speaker 1 I didn't know what he looked like. I laughed out loud multiple times at Bad Bunny's place.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 5 He was really good.

Speaker 1 Very funny. Very funny.
So, yeah, I don't know why people, I guess I should say, I do know why people get upset, but I just feel like it accomplished everything that it was. I was expecting it to not

Speaker 1 blow me away, that it was going to just be like a fun popcorn watch.

Speaker 2 I was shocked on Friday and Saturday when I saw people online saying, like, I turned it off after five minutes. I turned it off.

Speaker 2 It's like, what did you think you were getting yourself into when you started Happy Gilmore 2? Correct. That made you turn.

Speaker 2 I actually thought that the plot twist, like two minutes in the movie, I laughed at it. I thought that was funny.
That made memes very angry. Yeah.
Memes was not a fan of the plot twist.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes, you're like a number one Adam Sandler fan, especially in like, you know, the good, bad movie draft. Do you think that it qualifies?

Speaker 1 It definitely qualifies. I liked it.

Speaker 4 I really enjoyed the family. Like, their son's just beating everybody up.
I think they should have focused more on the kids and the family and shooter.

Speaker 2 were there too many too many cameos too many cameos too many way too many cameos the movie the movie was like how long was it hour and a half

Speaker 2 it was like 90 tick tocks yeah

Speaker 1 perfect yeah exactly great fun yeah don't have to think yeah having any type of entertainment when i count this podcast kind of in that in that genre of i don't have to turn my brain on i'm I'm welcome to all of it.

Speaker 1 I wish that after every like minute, when it switched from scene to scene, it just like scrolled up like you were watching tick tock yeah like it simulated someone will put it all on tick tock yeah that's what they do right they put full movies on tiktok yeah just one scroll at a time you can watch the whole thing yeah um yeah imagine turning it off and being like i'm gonna watch happy gilmore

Speaker 2 i can't believe that although when tuesday's gone hit it did make me think about the first one but there were enough actual throwbacks to footage from the first film that it felt like i watched half like half of happy gilmore won while i watched happy gilmore two yeah

Speaker 6 yeah i mean this wasn't i'm not necessarily excited to watch but i i will watch. Hellbigamore won the greatest movie of all time.
I think it's like it's the perfect movie. All time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, Boban.

Speaker 2 Awesome job by Boban.

Speaker 1 Great job by Boban.

Speaker 2 Maybe he was the best cameo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he might have been the best cameo. All right, we forgot to do lottery balls

Speaker 1 in studio, so we're going to do something different. This is,

Speaker 1 I mean, it's grit week. You can claim you won a grit week one.
I'm going to say, memes, will you feel like you've won the lottery ball if you win what we're about to do? Absolutely not. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What we're going to do is,

Speaker 1 Chris, can you write down a number

Speaker 1 on your phone?

Speaker 1 One to one hundred

Speaker 1 any number, one to one hundred. He's gonna write it, we're gonna guess, and then he'll reveal because we forgot to do it.
That's our bad.

Speaker 1 No, he'll show us right after.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 2 tell us when.

Speaker 1 Good, all right, numbers three

Speaker 2 fifty-four

Speaker 2 seventy-four

Speaker 1 85. 23

Speaker 1 17.

Speaker 1 I love 85. You got one?

Speaker 9 17.

Speaker 1 I'll stick with 99 Poke. All right.
89.

Speaker 2 Shane, what'd you say? Reveal it. 17.
That's Max's favorite number, too.

Speaker 1 Fuck. 72.

Speaker 1 Damn. All right.

Speaker 2 No one.

Speaker 1 Damn. You had 74 memes? Take 74.

Speaker 1 Memes, how many people asked you if you have gotten it yet?

Speaker 4 There was a ton at the meetup today. Yeah.
and they were like, Oh, I think you're gonna get it this week. I was like, Oh, we didn't film.

Speaker 1 They go, damn, then just gave me a number. Yeah, well, we do have a surprise for later on this week, so maybe we'll be able to film it at some point.

Speaker 1 Uh, okay, good show, boys. Great week, love it, love you guys.