Charles Barkley, Grit Week Has Begun, Mt Rushmore Of Things That Begin With G, Plus Happy Gilmore 2 Review

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On today's part of my take, it is grit week.

We are in the RV and we have an all-time interview with Charles Barkley.

Probably, I'll say it was a white whale and unbelievable interview.

Wish it had gone for like six hours.

The round mound of rebound.

Yeah.

He was incredible.

He was as advertised.

Yeah.

So really, really good interview.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of Words to start with G for grit, but grit is not allowed to be picked.

We're going to talk about the weekend.

Hank's got a UFC recap.

We have training camp.

Terry might be a camp.

Holding in.

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Today is Monday, July 28th, and it is grit week, boys.

Loving it.

We're on the RV.

The best week of the year.

We are in a weird setting,

piled in here.

Max is over my shoulder.

I feel like I'm on a sitcom where he's like the guy who's just standing over my shoulder.

He's leaning very cutely on the couch, though.

Like he's watching us like, you're doing great, sweetie.

Stop.

Stop.

Stop.

Stop it.

Love Baltimore, though.

Love Baltimore.

Great city.

Went to the inner harbor.

Went down to Pussers.

Pussers.

Pussers bar.

Saw a lot of AWL pussers.

The meet and greet that we did today had the most babies that I've ever seen.

Yes.

And I think one guy said that he has a kid who was born on the day that part of my take debuted.

Yeah,

he didn't bring his kid.

He's nine now.

And I said that if we do this for another 10 years, we'll hire him as an intern.

Yeah, we have to.

We have to do it.

Also, I'd say you.

I'm going to buy that kid his first beer.

It was the most.

It was very Baltimore.

Most babies, most tattoos.

Yeah.

I think we hit both those boxes.

A lot of tattoos.

A lot of the pants, the Ravens' pants showed up big time today.

Yes.

A lot of Orioles paraphernalia.

Orioles sneaky have like the best color scheme in baseball.

Yes, and logo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it's great being in Baltimore.

We're going to hit some training camps this week.

We're on the RV.

What are you giggling about?

Are you hitting my shoulder camp?

I was not giggling.

I don't like Max.

Can you.

I was not giggling on him.

I got eyes on him.

Get my six.

I got eyes on him.

All right, because I don't trust him behind me.

Now I want to.

Yeah.

All right.

So we're on the bus.

We have Charles Barkley, which was

so awesome.

If you like stories about getting things stuck in your ass, getting things stuck in your belly button.

I mean, it started off hot.

And shout out to Zach.

Zach was Johnny on the spot for Charles.

You'll hear it during the interview, but he misplaced something and Zach picked it up for him.

Yes.

Happy to grab that for him.

Also,

the way we got Charles on the show, we shout out Biz.

He's our guy.

Yep.

Got me a mutual connection that I was able to talk to.

And we also did a strategy where we're like, hey, so this was during Tahoe Week.

We sat on it for two weeks.

We wanted to run it, but it was just like, we have to save it for Grit Week.

He's the perfect guy.

PFT and I were like, we got to just get in front of Charles Barkley because once we introduce ourselves, I think he'll do it.

And we just went to the high limit room at Hara's and it was like a field of dreams thing where he, we just waited there for like 15 minutes and then he just appeared.

I think it was even less than 15.

I think it was like five or 10 minutes.

He showed up.

He started playing Blackjack and he introduced himself to everybody in the room.

He's like, hey, I'm Charles.

You can call me Chuck.

Yeah.

To everybody in the the room, great guy.

And me and Big Cat both shook his hand.

We're like, hey, we did the part of my take podcast.

We're trying to get you on.

And he goes, yeah, let's do it.

And then just like moved on.

And I thought I was like, I don't know if he's going to actually do this.

But credit to Biz.

Biz also hit me up the day after and wanted to talk to me about what it was like to talk to Charles Barkley.

That's how much he likes talking to Charles Barkley.

He's like, so what was it like trying it for your first time?

Yeah.

You love it?

It was more?

I want some more.

It was like Hunter Biden explaining crack.

It was so good.

Yeah, it was in crowds.

So pure.

Also, shout out to Zach because at the meet and greet tonight, we showed up.

Zach rolled in a little bit after us, and Zach waited in line outside the meet and greet to get into your own meet and greet.

Yeah.

Well, there was, there's also like a restaurant situation going on, so you're not sure these people

at pussers, pusses, pussers, yes.

So the line was, you could see it inside.

I wasn't sure if it carried outside.

We did confirm that was the line I saw.

Yeah, we were sitting inside for like 20 minutes, and I just get a text from Zach saying, hey, I'm waiting in line.

Yeah.

You're part of the show, dude.

Backcombs.

Yeah,

I love the Baltimore Baltimore accent, too, of the people that were coming up to us tonight.

It's like the hardest to imitate unless you're from here, but it sounds so cool.

So cool.

So, yeah, awesome Charles Barkley interview.

Great week.

Shout out Craig, by the way.

That's Charles Barkley's friend who

I did harass him over text and in person, but he came through.

So we're excited for the AWLC.

That was...

We should have had him on years ago.

Hopefully we can have him on multiple times because we both, there's few interviews where we walk away like smiling ear to ear.

That's how I walked away from the Charles Barkley area.

It was great.

He was smiling ear to ear.

And I'll just say this.

Charles looks great.

He does.

He looks skinny.

He looks really good.

Should we talk some sports, some ball?

Let's talk ball.

Okay.

Football's back.

Football is back.

Guys, there's football this week.

There is football this week.

Terry's at camp.

He's holding in.

So

that's a good thing for you.

It's gone from a holdout to a hold in.

He is there, but he's on the pup list because he's got an ankle that he's dealing with.

Okay.

An ankle that I'm sure is 100% a real injury and not just something that they're using as an excuse.

But it sounds like both sides are in agreement.

Terry's like, I'll come to camp, but don't make me practice.

Give me a bogus injury.

So they're both kind of playing ball.

Okay.

Right.

That's good.

My mission is when we go down to D.C., I will personally sign Terry McLaurin.

Okay.

I will personally sign him.

That's my mission on Tuesday.

Because we are.

We're going to be in D.C.

We're doing Ravens camp.

We're doing Commander's Camp.

We're doing Eagles' camp.

I just love being in camp.

This is one of those things that it never gets old where we show up to these camps camps to do interviews and then there's always like maybe 45 minutes where the guys have to set everything up and pfc and i get to just stand on the grass just watch and just watch and smell and it's fucking awesome it's great can it's can i share a deep fear that i have with you i told this to memes uh and and pug earlier when we're getting ready to uh to fly out here

i'm i've been very nervous about meeting jaden about the handshake about the like very first interaction i've been run i've been rehearsing it in my mind i've been running through all the iterations i'm trying to figure out the perfect things to say to jaden it's very there's a lot going through my head what if he goes pound

i'll have to adapt you even think about it i'll have to adapt you didn't even think about i would be pumped with a pound because you can't up a pound yeah

unless i go in with a hand yeah and then i wrap his fist in my hand are you going full dap

my i'm thinking i'm gonna go three-step dap try to hug or you gotta do a hug half hug i gotta want to hug it depends on how that goes you gotta hug i go three-step dap the clap the twist the pop you just have to go off his movement.

You can't decide any of this.

Yeah,

you also might want to, like, you should send, like, maybe Max goes first just so you can see.

You can get the scouting.

Max is not allowed to touch my report.

Okay, so maybe Hank goes first.

Yeah, okay.

So you get a scouting report.

You're like, all right, he's going this way.

Here's what we're doing.

But he might see Hank and get bad vibes and not.

Zach will go first.

I'll go first if you want me to.

Zach can go first.

What if he goes to shake my hand?

He's not going to shake your hand.

He's going to see you coming a mile away.

So if he goes to shake my hand,

I'm not allowed to shake his hand.

I just have to be disrespectful.

You can shake his hand if he initiates.

If he initiates,

you're not allowed to touch my hand.

Yeah, don't touch my shit.

Don't touch my mouth.

I'm the one who's saying he's a top-five quarterback without a doubt.

No questions asked.

That is true.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

But I was thinking about hitting with a you demand.

Okay.

I respect you.

I don't know what to say.

Like, I'm telling you, I'm very nervous about this.

Huh?

Was that a duh?

You guys said you demand.

Do man.

Yeah, I don't think so.

You the man.

That doesn't work.

You demand is not, you shouldn't go you demand.

What's up with it?

Just be like, I love you.

What's up with it?

What's up with it?

Come out of your mouth.

You cooling?

No, just say your, just say, just

whisper really softly, I love you.

I honestly thought about just saying, I love you.

Why not?

Or I respect you.

Because if

you can go with...

No, don't do I respect you.

Do I love you?

Fuck it, dude.

Just go full second.

He knows who you are.

I don't want to send that lady.

I don't want to scare him off.

Yeah, just be like, hey, not to be weird, but I love you.

I'm going to have to rehearse this.

I brought the 3D goggles to sim because he likes the 3D thing to simulate in the games.

I might just, I'm going to simulate meeting Jaden Daniels until I get it right.

Okay.

So, yeah, that'll come later this week.

Should we talk?

What's going on with Christian Wilkins?

All right, so I got a report on Christian Wilkins.

Okay.

So he got cut from the Raiders.

He got cut from the Raiders, and then he has how many millions of dollars in salary?

Tons of millions.

That they already paid him, that they're trying to get back.

It was a shining bonus, like 30-something million.

Shitloads of millions.

And apparently, you can just get that money back if you're a team and you're not happy with how somebody progressed from their injury.

But then the report came out today that there was a quote incident with a teammate that led to his release.

And Christian Wilkins is a very good football player, also has multiple times on camera put his finger in people's butts.

He's a big butt guy.

Yeah.

So the other Josh Allen's dick once, too.

The report was.

This is all on the field of play, by the way.

Sources within the team are being careful and won't leak many details.

One says, quote, it was weird.

Like a very weird incident.

So it sounds like it was a butt incident.

It sounds like he put his finger in a butt.

Reading between the cheeks on this, I think it is an asshole incursion.

I would say

it feels like it was a butt.

Because he's had, there's like multiple.

I was looking below the report, and there were just multiple instances of people like college

pros,

fingers in butts.

Blatant finger in the ass.

Fingers all up.

Checking the prostate.

Now, Christian Wilkins is a good player.

Is he penetrate your butthole and still be loud on the team?

Good.

I don't think it depends on the price.

Like if Aaron Donald stuck his fist in somebody's ass, you got to be able to handle it.

You look the other way.

It's every, yeah.

He can do anything.

He can put his whole face in your ass.

Yeah, but if you're injured, you can't be doing that.

No, you can't.

No.

If you're in the tub, you can't be putting your finger in people's butts.

No, no.

All right.

That was a story.

We also just have varying degrees of this quarterback stinks or this thing.

You know, Aaron Rodgers highlights, Caleb Williams highlights, everyone freaking out.

It's still very early in training camp.

Yep.

Remind everyone.

We also have

a very funny just wrinkle that,

well, it's not funny.

Matthew Stafford is

out for a while because of his back.

The funny part is Devontae Adams is on the Rams and excited to be on the Rams.

And now his quarterback is Jimmy G.

And if you remember correctly, he basically was like, I need to get the fuck away from Jimmy G.

Yep.

He can't quit him.

So

the wide receiver Netflix show is just Devontae Adams being like, Jimmy G is trying to get me killed.

I need to get out of here.

Yeah.

And he just went all roads lead back to Jimmy G.

I think that it's probably Sean McVay and Matt Stafford having a handshake agreement.

Matt Stafford being like, I want to play again, but I'm old, so please don't make me play in training camp all the time.

And Sean being like, yeah, okay, I understand.

Yeah, absolutely.

It makes perfect sense.

Also, Kenny Pickett got a hammy.

I saw that.

So he drops down to fourth.

Yeah, the Browns quarterback situation changes a little.

Yeah, right now I have Flacco number one again on my Cleveland Browns quarterbacks.

I think Flacco starts the regular season.

I would agree.

I mean, it doesn't, it's if Kenny's hurt, they're not going to start Dylan Gabriel.

No, Shador's, I feel like Shador's in third, Dylan Gabriel's in second.

Yeah, absolutely.

And they would rather have Joe Flacco start and let Dylan Gabriel learn a little bit.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

All right.

Oh, also, Malik Neighbors hated Daniel Jones beyond belief.

That was pretty clear.

He had an interview where he was talking about having

it's nice to have a true leader in the locker room over and over.

And Jameis Winston also is a true leader.

He said that he's not an outcome-based quarterback.

Yeah.

Which is,

you think?

He basically like, yeah, if it's an interception, it's like, was the process correct?

Yeah, it's about getting there.

It's about the journey, not the destination.

A shirt.

Yeah, I was about to say a shout out to their Cuba AWLs.

There's two AWLs with I'm getting their shirts that we apparently sold yeah and probably need to put back on sale absolutely have to those are hot what is that a reference to again uh go ahead so i'm getting there you go read the tweet you have to read the tweet i'll read it the search

do you know what tweet you're looking up

i'm searching ray allen

i'm getting there i'm searching it right now while you're looking for it we've uh we've talked some love about maryland and baltimore can i can i i'm just looking through my bookmarks i don't know why i bookmarked this uh but it is funny because we're appropriately in maryland right now.

It's from Cumweiser.

Okay.

Is the Twitter account?

It's a great new kind of beer.

Come Weiser.

He said, and again, this is all love to Maryland, but this is a funny tweet.

I have to read it.

Maryland is the most pathetic state shape ever.

Like, oh yeah, no, I don't need a lot of land.

I'll just take your scraps.

That's fine.

I'll take this fuck ass area and I don't need anything else.

Sorry for bothering you type shit.

I'd be embarrassed to be proud to be from Maryland.

Yeah, I mean, it is funny when you look at a map.

They just cut the shit.

They They cut the fuck out of Maryland.

They cut it up.

They carved that shit up.

You know what the most cut part of Maryland is?

It's on the eastern shore.

When you look at that, and then Delaware takes half the eastern shore.

And then at the bottom,

Virginia is just like, oh, yeah, we got this too.

I'm going to need that bottom.

They got cucks.

And then it's like, yeah, okay, whatever you say.

Just take your scraps.

That's fine.

I'll take this fuck ass area.

I think they're talking about the western part.

That's a true fuck-ass area in the western part.

That's just like a little piece.

And it's just such a funny state shape because it's a straight line up top.

And then it just, they just got cucked on everything.

Big time.

And the District of Columbia, too.

They took that right out of Maryland.

Sure.

Shout out, Cumweiser.

All right.

Ready?

You want the full thing?

Yeah,

duh.

Yes, sir.

Okay, I got you.

It's a...

I'm getting there.

When you masturbate, think about my tongue on your clit and switching back and forth from dick to my tongue.

Nice.

That's from Sugar Ray 20.

ray allen

great tweet

i like how too when you had to find it it's just a tweet of me tweeting it out

what was it like when you ran into ray allen at tahoe big guy not not really warm

really

well he gave me like uh i was like hey we're trying to get you on part of my take and he was like oh cool i'll tell my people and then i texted josh our great booker i was like hey i saw ray allen he said that he'd be down to come on and then he like 20 minutes later he's like yes people just passed again Yeah,

smart move.

Yeah, but also not a smart move because, kind of like the tennis pod, if Ray Allen came on,

the tweet would basically be done.

If we joked about it with him, he would kill it.

He would kill it.

Yeah.

Like, that's the beauty of the show: you could just kill a joke like that.

The tennis pod is probably going to have Ray Allen on.

Yeah, they're probably going to get him.

I got one more piece of breaking news.

Okay.

Breaking news.

Ben Simmons,

one of the most sought-after free agents on the market, is expected to sign with the Boston Celtics League sources say.

Oh, wow.

As first report on part of my take.

Boston has been engaged in pursuit of Simmons since the start of free agency sources said.

That's the Ari report.

Hank?

Max.

I don't think this is a real report.

Are you saying you don't trust the Ari report?

That is kind of what I'm saying.

That sounds anti-Semitic.

That's crazy.

That is...

That he has 15,000 followers.

Is this the same guy as Material Change?

No.

Who is that?

That was a different Ari.

Shams has not said a single thing about it.

I feel like that might be just the same guy.

He just popped up.

He might.

I think it's a different Ari who's reporting NBA news.

I don't know.

I don't know if it's the same Ari or not because I feel like that Ari is still on the Material Change guy that's rules.

Just keep swinging, dude.

Because

he had the worst.

What was it?

What was it called?

Kawhi.

Yeah, Kawhi.

So congrats on Ben Simmons.

I would be excited for Ben Simmons.

I'm with Max.

I don't think this is 100% true.

Different R.

I think it's probably 25% true.

He's just trying to be first.

Okay.

But there's four teams interested.

Four to six teams per the Ari report.

Got it.

Hank,

while you have the mic here, UFC report?

Yeah, a lot of great fights.

I have one main takeaway.

Sheriff Putin

Magometov is the greatest UFC-looking fighter of all time.

He looks like an angry leprechaun.

Whoa, he does.

What about the guy's eye?

What did you think about that?

Ah, it's a good eye.

No, it wasn't.

Did you not see the guy's eye?

Which one?

His eye was completely.

There's a lot of guys.

A lot of eyes.

Completely.

Let me show you the guy's eye.

It was more than black and blue.

He looked like a tire pump put underneath his eyelid.

And it happened almost instantly.

You ready for this, Hank?

It is a very violent.

Now, Hank doesn't like violence, but he loves UFC.

What?

Oh,

that's foul.

That's foul.

That's pretty crazy.

It's also crazy because if you see the actual clip, it happened.

Like, he got hit.

He went down.

By the time he was standing up, you could see it actually blow up like in real time.

It happened in a matter of seconds.

Gross.

Great fights, though.

Yeah, you're glued to your TV.

Yeah.

That's a great recap.

Thank you.

Yeah, what was the atmosphere like Saturday night when you're watching those fights?

You know, I like to wait until the All 22 comes out so I can, you know, get the view from my eye in the sky.

Okay.

I wasn't actually watching that.

That was a trick question.

I was trying to trap you into it because it was Saturday during the day.

Right.

But you still haven't seen it.

Hank, what about the Red Sox bandwagon train?

We're still running next.

Can you tell me what happened this week?

We were beating the Dodgers when we walked into the meet and greet.

Okay.

I did not check if.

Oh, we won.

We'd be the Dodgers.

Yeah, we're good.

Yeah.

And Aaron Judge is hurt.

But not that hurt.

But a little hurt to the point that John Carlo might be warming up to play some outfield, which is so funny.

And then Aaron Judge just DHing.

Yeah.

They're not going to shut him down, right?

He's going to keep hitting.

They're going to try.

I think they're going to wait a week or so to revisit.

Okay.

But John Carlo playing the outfield is what we all want.

That is what we need.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We absolutely need that.

It also was Hall of Fame weekend for Major League Baseball.

Yeah, what happened with Ichiro's speech?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I just saw a bunch of clips of it.

I didn't know it was Hall of Fame weekend until Cece Zabatia got stuck on the side of the highway.

That was it.

That was like, oh, he was like, anyone going to Cooperstown can help me out?

And I was like, oh, it must be Hall of Fame weekend.

I like that.

Ichiro cracks jokes, shares wisdom, and calls out lone voter in National Baseball Hall of Fame speech.

Nice.

Also, headline.

We had our AWL Nick Kurtz with maybe the greatest game of all time.

I'd say probably the best offensive game in baseball history.

19 total bases.

Four home runs.

Four home runs,

six,

eight RBIs.

Or no, how many RBIs did he have?

He had more than that, I think.

Uh, he went single, home run, double, home run, home run, home run, four home runs.

Just insane, crazy.

We got to hear Dallas Braden on the call.

That was nice.

Yeah, say his name.

What's his name again?

Say it fast.

Nick Kurtz.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Is that okay?

Yeah, that's good.

Why?

What do you say?

I like to say Nicholas Kurtz.

Okay.

Just be safe.

Nick Kurtz?

Yeah, just be safe.

Are you trying to do like a Steve Kurtz?

Yeah, it's kind of like...

It's not exactly.

I don't think it's the same as Steve Kerr's son.

It's close.

You're right with eight RBIs, by the way.

Nine?

No, I said you were right.

Eight?

With eight.

Yeah, eight.

I think he had nine.

I'm looking at nine.

And

he's a rookie, which is crazy.

And if you look at how he's been hitting since, like, I think the first month that he was in Major League Baseball wasn't great.

But since then, he's like the best hitter in Major League Baseball.

Yeah.

In the entire league.

Yeah.

All right.

Do we have anything else before we do Who's Back?

And then we'll do Mount Rushmore.

All right, let's do it.

And then we have Charles Barkley.

Awesome interview.

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Key I had Nick Kurtz.

I had Ben Simmons.

Oh, man.

That's our

corn sweats.

Yeah.

Corn sweats.

Go on.

Yeah.

So it was very hot in Chicago this weekend, very humid.

And apparently that's because of corn sweats.

That's what it's called.

Yeah.

I love corn.

It's basically like the meat sweats, but when it's humid, you can just blame the corn.

So it's a hot one.

So the corn.

Really hot.

What was it about the corn?

What is it about it?

Yeah, they made it hot in Chicago.

Corn sweat is crops releasing vapor that soaks the atmosphere and turns the outdoors into a steam trap.

So it's basically like a, you know, the corn.

Yeah, we're just stuck in our own.

The corn turns the earth into a sauna.

So it's like a polar vortex.

steam room, but for corn, it was a cornhole, you're trapped in the cornhole.

That was that was good thinking on your feet, Hank.

Thank you, nice job, Hank.

Well, I was thinking about this.

You're sharp right now, it's been really hot, and it's like, this can't be normal.

And it's like, oh, this must be the corn sweats.

Yeah, and you know, it was.

I'll tell you what, I

alluded to it at the beginning of the show, but like after Charles Barkley, we're going to do Happy Gilmore 2 review, and I know Hank has some good takes.

Very good.

Some really good takes.

Well, yeah, I just know from what PFT has been spoiled with me.

I've been waiting.

I've been waiting on it.

Spoiled?

We spoiled it?

Yeah.

It's not Citizen Kane.

I'm not telling you that Rosebud was the son.

So you didn't watch?

It was our homework.

It was not our homework.

It should have been.

I started watching it, and then.

So you didn't watch UFC or Happy Gilmore 2?

I watched Happy Gilmore 1.

I watched Happy Gilmore 1.

Okay, greatest movie of all time.

You didn't want to be lost during Happy Gilmore 2.

It came on, and

I'll watch it eventually, but the intro being the exact same, I was like, I just want to watch Happy Goodmore 1.

Like when it started with the same music and invoice.

When did you watch Happy Good More One?

On Friday night.

Oh, really?

Wait, wait, wait.

I started to watch Happy Good War 2.

This is insane.

This is crazy.

You started.

I'm just going to get mad.

I want to just enjoy a movie.

And Happy Good More One is the funniest movie of all time.

All time.

You might be the only person

in America that did that.

No, I actually think there might be a couple people who've done it.

After the opening scene, yeah, there were some people who were mad about Happy Good War 2.

But after the open.

I I just knew it was going to be a repeat.

I'm like, why shouldn't I just watch the first one?

It's gonna be a repeat?

The beginning narration was literally the same song, same voiceover, same thing.

It's like, all right, this movie, which I'm assuming is how it goes, is like a pretty similar

story to the first one.

It's a remix.

I'm gonna watch it, okay?

But once again,

don't spoil right now, Hank.

Right now, you're spoiling our upcoming review of Happy Gilmore Tales.

True, true.

All right, good who's back.

Thanks.

I have two who's backs.

All All right.

First who's back is Hank and Mount Rushmore season.

Great performance last week.

Thanks.

Yeah, but let's get real.

You nailed that.

Top to bottom.

Good work.

You mean on just Fridays?

On Friday's show.

Yeah, yeah.

Great work.

You said last week.

Friday was last week.

Got it.

Yeah.

But there was more than just Friday.

I'm talking Friday.

Great work by Hank.

Starling Championship TV.

Your lips to God's ears.

My other who's back of the week is Philly Sports Fans.

Good sports town, and it travels.

That was in Yankees Stadium, right?

Correct.

There's a video.

about two fans allegedly

having a great time at the old ball game too.

She's enjoying it.

Just he was saying, We're number one.

Peanuts and cracker jacks.

Just giving her.

He was giving the Bronx salute.

Yeah.

He was telling her fastball down the middle.

It was the Bronx salute.

Yeah.

It might have been a little bit low for a Bronx salute.

And she really thought that he was getting the spirit of the game.

And you love to see two kids going out to a ball game like that, enjoying themselves.

Love is love, and

Philly fans love love.

City of brotherly love.

There it is.

Brotherly love.

Maybe not brotherly love.

That wasn't brotherly love.

Maybe like stepmotherly love.

That was something different going on.

It was love.

Love is love.

Love is love.

Love is love.

But they had a great time at the old ball game.

That's what we like to see as sports fans.

Yeah.

Who says baseball's dead?

Not us.

Not us.

Not us.

Never.

All right.

I got a couple who's backs.

First is Jokic.

The video of Jokic crying after his horse is won.

So good.

So fucking good.

Would you be pissed if you were a Nuggets fan?

Like a little bit?

A little bit.

But it's also so funny.

But it's good to see him expressing that emotion about something.

Yeah, the way I put it was: Jokic, he just rocks because he loves horses more than anything.

And then in the horse offseason, he's like, I'll win a couple MVPs.

Yes, it's his hobby.

Yeah.

He would rather,

he's almost like, I got to go pay the bills and win an MVP and be the best basketball player in the world.

Yeah, I mean, I really want to be back with my horses.

It was abundantly clear that he cares more about his horse-winning races than he does about winning NBA championships, but he also cares a lot about winning NBA championships, and he's very good at that too.

Yes, so just let Jokic be Jokic.

He loves the cart horses, too, which is, I don't understand this as much, it's just a Serbian thing, yeah.

Yeah, you know what?

I would not do, though, if I were a Nuggets fan, is shame him for this, no, because that's just going to push him away.

Agreed.

I think Nuggets fans just have to become just as big of a horse fans as Jokic is.

Big time agreed, like build a fucking world-class horse race track in Denver, and then maybe Jokic will be more attached to your city.

Yeah, you can't leave.

Yeah.

Also, I saw there was,

I think LeBron posted something with Jokic's agent.

Did you see that?

I'm going to look in the Instagram.

Maybe it was, was it, hold on, I'll find it.

It was, so it's not what you think of like LeBron and Jokic teaming up.

It was, oh, so his, so.

Jokic's agent posted something with LeBron and said the summer of 2025 is the perfect time to to make big plans for the fall of 2026.

It was him, Maverick Carter, and LeBron.

So

you'd initially think, oh, this is LeBron trying to team, but the Yokoche, it's, I think, the threatened league that

people are talking about, the new basketball league, because he's a big agent in Europe and he's got like all the Euro ball.

So interesting.

Do you see what Luca tweeted out today?

What did he say?

There's a tournament of one-on-one basketball that's going to be going across the country this summer.

Okay.

That would be awesome to watch.

This summer's over.

Yeah.

Well, no.

August.

It's like July 31st into August.

This summer's over.

Hank knows it.

Hank knew it.

He said when grit week starts, Hank knows summer's over.

Yeah, football's back.

Football's so back.

You're excited for it.

Also, Mario, who got cocked.

by Princess Peach.

Nintendo announced, was it, what?

Did we talk about this on Friday?

No, I saw that report.

It came out on Friday.

It's a big report.

Oh, Hank, I forgot you just weren't on Earth for the last three days.

Nintendo released, what?

This was a big story.

It was.

Nintendo released a statement on Princess Peach's relationship with Mario and said they're good friends and help each other out whenever they can.

40 years of that.

Total friend zone.

White Knight bitch.

Very sad.

Very sad for Mario.

You think Luigi was smashing?

No, Luigi's smashing the other one.

Daisy?

Daisy.

Daisy.

Daisy.

Mario is not all up in Daisy's guts.

Nothing for Mario.

Yeah, nothing for Mario.

How many times did you have to save her?

I can't believe I missed that.

It is funny, though.

It was going viral for a while on Friday.

Did you hear about the aliens?

I did hear about the aliens.

Did you see Dante Jones pick his butt?

Nope.

Yeah, that was a crazy video.

My former teammate.

Yeah.

What else did you miss?

Shane Victorino played versus Savannah Bananas.

That's fun.

Again.

That's fun.

Yeah.

What else did Hank maybe miss?

Shaq fucking hates Rudy Gobert.

Yep.

Yep.

That's been known.

Did you just break it?

Trump's caddy dropping a ball.

That's very funny.

That's also like I...

Classic.

If you're a person of money or power, like you have to have a caddy doing that for you.

Why would you ever hit out of the bunker?

That's like the best.

I would love to just have someone just going in front of me all the time to to be like, found it right in the fairway.

His course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, Zach, do you have a who's back for us?

I do have a who's back for us.

I've got a quick one this week.

I know I've been touching on a video game stuff a little heavy, so I will broaden my horizons, but this is pretty notable.

They had EWC this last weekend.

Are you familiar with EWC?

Yeah.

Esports World Cup out there and saw you.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

That's what I definitely thought you meant.

Yeah.

So it's the Saudis.

So COD Champs, I would say, is the biggest term of the year.

Wait, when you said you were broadening your horizons, it says not.

I was like, I'm going to broaden the move.

Looking forward, I'm going to broaden them.

This just felt notable.

Got it.

Listen, you got to report on what you got to report.

I appreciate that, but I will broaden them, I promise.

But Optic, the Greenwall, was able to defeat Vancouver again.

Two trophy racing ceremonies at the end of the year for this title of a B06.

Fantastic.

Let's go.

What game was it?

Black Ops 6.

Black Ops 6.

Yep.

That's huge.

So Optic is just wiping the shit out of of everybody else right now, right?

Oh, yeah.

Season's over.

What a turnaround.

Beginning of the year, didn't look too great, and they just finish off just taking out heads.

Can I?

I'm going to say something right now.

And we're a team of Mount Rushmore, so this is outside of Mount Rushmore.

This is separate.

This is off the seat.

Would you say I've been fair with you?

More than fair.

Would you say I've been firm with you?

More than firm.

Okay.

Do you think I could be firmer?

Get as firm as you like, sir.

All right,

I'm going to get real firm with you.

I'm going to get firm but fair.

I don't want to hear another thing about video games from you until you start streaming for us.

I won't say another thing about video games, I promise you.

But that, no, no, no.

You don't understand what I said.

Oh, okay.

You can start streaming tomorrow and then you can talk about it all you want.

I got you.

That's what I'm looking for.

Just not another word.

I'm doing more of a I want you to start streaming.

Okay.

So it's like I got to take something out away to get you to do the thing that we want you to do.

I can do that for you.

But people want to see you streaming

video games.

The thing is, I'm not the best big in full transparency.

No, it doesn't matter.

Exactly.

It doesn't matter.

So for stream game, you got to either have the mouthpiece or the or the gaming ability.

You have the mouthpiece.

I got a lot of mouthpiece.

I got a lot of dead air and then not the best of team games.

But I would do it for a while.

That was old Zach.

New Zach with his fresh new haircut.

Okay, I appreciate that.

So just so we're clear, you understand I want you to keep talking about video games.

Because you're streaming.

I can do that for you.

Memes and I will be there with fair few.

You'll be good.

Memes going to walk you through it.

He's got you.

We got this as a team, boys.

Yeah.

Yes, but you are the.

You never walk alone.

You are the.

You never are the team.

Pardon my take.

Same thing.

Let's walk, boys.

We never walk alone.

All right.

Good job, Zach.

Again, don't know what you just said.

Did you catch any of it?

Yeah, it was Optic 1 Saudi Arabia.

They want to Cod Live.

It is Cod Live.

That's a perfect way to explain it.

It's Cod Live.

It's Asaudi hanging in, dropping money.

Yeah.

They can wear shorts while they do it.

A couple of pairs shorts out there.

Okay.

Is it Cod but Louder?

What's up?

Is it Cod but Louder?

Because there was some interference by the crowd that they're trying to figure out, but the crowd sells some different things for the game.

It's not very good.

Got it.

Got it.

Guys were tripping with other guys trying to defuse bombs.

It's a whole thing.

In Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia, yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

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Okay.

Mount Rushmore of words to start with G and grit is eliminated.

So we're doing it in honor of grit, but grit cannot be picked.

Who is up first?

I'm feeling very uncomfortable with Max looking over her shoulder.

Yeah, he was doing this earlier, too.

What?

No, I was not.

Yeah, you were.

This is going to be an honor game.

I'm not even going to look at you guys.

Okay.

I'm just going to look at my boy memes here.

All right, so who's up first?

PFT's got the ball.

All right, let's go, Hank.

And I love our list.

Love our list.

We're hot.

All right.

We're going three for three.

Number one.

We're taking game sevens.

Okay.

First overall.

Memes look like I just did something terrible.

No, it's a good pick.

That's a great pick, memes.

It's a great pick.

It's a great pick.

Great pick.

They're the two best words.

What about game seven below?

Two best words in the English language are what?

Game sevens.

What about game seven?

That would mean that game is one of the best words.

The best words in sports podcasts and the best two words in sports are.

Game seven.

Game seven.

Yeah.

Okay, wait.

I can't get my computer.

Well, we don't have Wi-Fi on this bus, which I didn't realize we didn't have.

I was tethered, and then I thought I could go to my phone to see what I sent, and now I'm screwed.

Do you have the list?

I'm texting to you right now.

Okay, text me the numbered list right now.

Yep.

Oh, no, we have our 1-1 that we're going to pick.

Right?

Is there a pick?

Yes.

Okay, yeah, we're going to go with gridiron.

Can't do football without gridiron.

Good pick.

Gridiron.

Okay, we are going to go with

that.

I'm never fully understood.

Same page.

The gridiron is like a shape.

You text it to me.

Yep,

and it looks like the football field.

Gridiron.

The reason that we had that reaction earlier, because we were shocked that Hank didn't pick this, we're going to go with golf.

Okay.

Good pick.

Yeah, yeah.

And then.

You love golf.

Yeah.

I'm a huge golfer myself.

Meme shot in 82

memes in 82 yesterday.

Golf will be our first, and girls will be our second.

Oh, girls.

Girls.

What age?

Like under 18?

What age is girls?

Just parents?

Are you girls?

Not women.

Is girls now an age group?

Yeah, well, yeah, there's still women who are 18.

That is not

true.

Girls.

Yikes.

Girls.

Yikes.

I want to apologize to everyone who's tuned in for the Charles Barkley interview.

We don't know this guy.

Max.

He's on a flight.

He's on a flight log.

Max, girls.

You guys can try and do this.

That is just not how this works.

I have a question.

Yeah.

What college football team do you refer again?

That also doesn't make sense.

That doesn't make sense, though.

Yeah.

That doesn't make sense.

That didn't make sense.

The answer is Pen Same.

That didn't make sense.

It's a pattern.

Go, Hank.

You're up.

Hank.

You don't think it people say

whatever.

No, we love.

I love girls.

Is your mom a girl or a woman?

She's a girl.

Mom's a lady.

Synonyms, you fucking idiot.

So lady, they are synonyms.

Lady, woman, synonyms.

Yeah, ladies.

Ladies and classy pick, Zach.

That would have been a good one for L.

Elwood.

Okay, don't get upset.

Like,

they call girls young women.

They don't call girls old girls.

Yeah, good point.

They don't call women old girls.

That's an outstanding point.

Yeah.

Right?

Facts.

No, you can't argue with that.

Okay, I think we go with our plan, right?

Stay strong, don't break.

Number 34 there.

Right?

34 is a huge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

we didn't know.

Late edition,

it was a late edition.

We're going to go with guitars.

All right, good pick.

I mean,

you know, PFT.

It's a lot better than girls.

Guitar solos on the list, but yeah, guitars.

Guitars are

everything to music.

Shout out to Mersey.

Yeah.

I just, by the way, I looked up girls in the dictionary.

A female child or adolescent.

Oh, no.

And the example was a six-year-old girl.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

It's just interesting.

Okay.

Yikes.

So,

I think we're going to be just remembering when you're voting like

you got the ball.

I got the ball.

You felt strong about this one?

But I like whatever you like.

Okay.

Can't go wrong with that list.

We are going to go with gold.

Gold.

Okay.

Good element.

Yeah.

Gray pick.

Next pick, we are going to go with

green jacket.

Okay.

Gray pick.

Great, good pick.

Great pick.

Great pick.

Great pick.

But I like.

I thought I was going to go rogue.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know.

Yeah.

I thought we might die later tonight, but at the variant.

I wasn't sure.

No, the thing we said on the way out when we're like, fuck, this is great.

Our next pick is guys being dudes.

Okay.

What's better than that?

Give me guys being dudes.

Give me an example, Zach.

We're guys being dudes right now.

We're fucking loving it.

Guys being dudes.

Except for guys being dudes.

Max is not included in guys being dudes.

He's boys being dudes.

He's creeps.

Guys being felons.

Yeah.

Do you guys like guys being dudes?

Max, do you like guys being dudes?

Or do you talk about girls more?

Everybody, calm down.

What's your favorite age of girl, Max?

Give us one answer to that.

Give us one answer to what your favorite age of girl is.

Can you give us one?

We're going to go with.

Oh, you can't even give us one.

You guys are.

You know, this age pain.

I'm not taking the page.

It's a woman.

Is it taking the page?

25 is a woman.

You can't say my favorite girl age is 25.

Yes, you can.

No, you can't.

That's not a girl.

That's a woman.

They are synonyms.

No, I just read you the definition.

I read you the definition.

They're not.

You're a fucking pedo.

Dating apps, does it go

like men, women?

Zach, Zach, this isn't you.

This isn't you, Zach.

Yes, no, that is

part of our meeting.

I want you to answer his question.

Yeah.

Because this is Rage Maid.

I'm not taking the bait.

What is Rage Maid?

Dude,

just give me one favorite age of a girl right now.

What is your favorite age of the world?

I am not answering the question.

Why is there a band?

You don't have to answer the fucking question.

Why is it being called boys to men?

If they're synonyms, wouldn't it be the same thing?

Good point.

Really good point.

Whatever.

Really good point.

We're going to go with Grand Theft Auto.

Okay.

Nice one.

Good pig.

Good pick.

Good pick.

Max, we literally made our company off of saying Saturdays are for the boys.

Yeah, that's different.

That was the exact same acting like just going to act like boys.

We're acting like boys.

No, we're acting like just

a cinematic.

You don't understand what Saturdays

are.

Yeah, no, no, yeah.

I think that's correct.

Busting with the boys is a shit.

Dude,

you are just saying Barcelona things that we use.

You're talking about boys, not girls.

You're wrong.

What?

Dude, we're talking about acting like boy.

When you act like a boy, that's like we're doing fucking childish shit.

When you say, I like girls, we all say, ew.

Yeah, you sound like Ghelane Maxwell, Max.

Is that your next bet?

Ghislaine?

Are you okay?

Take it.

Take it.

Why don't you stand for something and just take it?

Just go full Epstein and take it.

Take Ghislaine.

Get the pedo vote.

We did that one.

We just girls.

That's it.

Dude, you can see you guys.

You guys fought girls.

And then you took it off.

Yeah, did not have girls.

I took it off very recently.

To Grand Theft Auto.

Now it's our fourth pick.

We all said good pick, Max.

It's a great pick.

Great pick, Max.

Thank you.

Grand Theft Auto, better pick than girls.

That was confirmed.

No, that's definitely that.

We're going to take the Godfather.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

So Godfather.

Godfather.

Movies.

Parentheses, movies.

No, you can do parentheses.

Movie.

Parentheses, movie?

Yeah, movies.

Okay.

We're going to take a pick with the parentheses as well, then.

I don't want

to do that.

We don't need the parentheses.

We do not need the parentheses.

We need the parentheses on ours.

Nine?

Yeah.

We would like to take...

Ooh, are we next?

Yeah, no, we're next.

Okay.

We would like to take gorilla, parentheses, harambe.

Yes.

No.

No.

Why?

So now you're out on Prince?

I think you can take gorillas.

All right, fine.

Then we won't take it.

Then we won't take it.

We won't take it.

That's fine.

I mean, gorillas are pretty cool.

Yeah.

King of the jungle.

Okay.

We can't blow up here.

This is where we blow up.

I'm thinking 14

and 12.

Four.

Four is pretty good.

Do you like 16?

Three?

Ah, no.

We're struggling.

28.

We really want to take gorillas.

Parentheses Harambe.

All right.

28.

All right.

No.

No.

I'm going to say it because you guys are not going to take it.

It is not our pick.

But Zach has been wanting me to take Gushers the entire time.

So good.

So good.

I told him that's a great, honorable mention.

Yeah, no, it's a great, honorable mention.

Mount Rush,

when we were walking into the RV, he goes, just think a little bit bit more about gushers.

Okay, we're stuck.

We're stuck.

We're not stuck.

What about?

What do you got?

What do you got?

No.

Wait, I mean.

No.

You can't find it.

That's true.

That's very true.

Our last pick is going to be what?

What do you think?

No,

you got this.

Take the rock.

Take the rock.

I just threw it to the rim, slam it down.

Dad podcasting now.

You got to say what you were thinking.

Okay.

I'm thinking you go the G-Pick right right here.

No, no, no.

You say what you were thinking.

All right, we would like to take.

No, no, no.

Don't say it out loud.

Just tell me what number you're thinking.

Okay, what do you think about

insane?

What happened to Gorilla?

Yeah, do it.

All right, go.

We would like to take Guy Fieri.

Yes.

Okay.

We love Guy Fiery.

Yep.

Love Guy Fieri.

That's good.

That's strong.

That's true.

We didn't break.

Gushers would have been interesting.

I think it would have played a little bit, but it's definitely a risk.

All right.

Our last pick.

Mm-hmm.

God.

Yep.

God.

I knew you were going to die.

Yeah, great pick.

Big man upstairs.

Almost took Jesus Christ with G.

But God.

Okay.

Shout out to God.

The greatest of them all.

Literally.

Heavenly Father.

Most praise.

We had it on the list.

Big ups.

Without God, Mount Rushmore doesn't exist.

We were thinking about taking gravity at one point.

That's a good one.

Yeah.

We almost took, with our last pick, we almost took girlfriends, which would have played, I think.

And we almost took girl on girl porn.

Yeah.

That would have been

incredible.

That would have been so good.

Glizzies.

Glizzies.

Yeah.

Goal.

Grand Slam.

Grand Slam.

Grand Slam.

Gumbo.

PFT.

I had Gumbo on the list.

Yeah.

The G-Spot.

We had that as well.

Donja.

Yeah.

Gas.

Grizzly Bear, Great Right White Shark.

Yeah.

Gruden, Gretzky.

Good picks.

Google.

Google.

Google.

Game shows.

Nothing better than hitting a nice big.

There's so many good G movies.

Yeah.

Good fellas, Goodwill Hunting.

Goodwill Hunting.

Or Zach Wanted Me Take Thrones.

Gulf of the USA.

Yeah.

Good Gulf.

Gulf of America.

G-Strings.

No one thought about taking guns.

Glocks.

I had Glocks on the list.

Memes and I almost just went full all different areas and gone guns, gays, and God as ours.

That would be so confusing.

Instead, you went with

Warren Zvon song.

Instead, you went with underage girls.

That is not what.

Guacamole.

Has the word underage women ever been said?

No.

You just

got girl porn.

That was an honorable mention.

You can't take it.

It's an honorable mention.

Getting laid.

G-Spot?

Yeah, we said G-Spot.

Yeah.

Grandparents.

Yeah.

Gas.

Gas is good.

Gasoline and gas, what the kids call it.

Yep.

And farting.

Garage fridge.

It's nothing better than a garage fridge.

Garage keep all your beer.

Guinness.

Garage.

Yeah, garage.

Goal line stand.

That's good.

The best.

The best.

Get up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Grilled cheese.

Good pack.

Grilled cheese is a mess.

Godzilla?

Godzilla's okay.

Godzilla minus one.

Godzilla fell off.

These are honorable.

Godzilla minus one.

What did you want you to rip off a couple of yours?

Graphic t-shirts?

Yeah.

Jello Ball.

Yep.

GPS.

Oh, that's actually a who's back to see Lomello's tattoo.

Yeah.

Defeat.

That's hot stuff.

Crazy.

Anyone have GIFs or GIFs?

Yes.

Zach said that.

What's your favorite GIF?

It rotates.

It does.

Nick Cage.

That's a good one.

Okay, that's right.

I like Jack Nicholson from Anger Management when he's smiling.

That's a good one.

Yeah, the verbal gift, verbal gift.

Or Kramer.

Gideon.

Oh, it's a good one.

All right, easy.

Or Shania Twain.

It's not the Mount Rushmore of N, Hank.

What was it?

Not the Mount Rushmore, what?

The letter N.

Talk Michael Richards over here.

Would Mick Griddle have played?

What's up?

Would Mick Griddle have played?

Would Mick Griddle?

I know it's Nick.

Is that the pretext for all of them?

I was like, dude, I don't think so.

They use it for every Gordita crunch.

Yeah.

Ooh, Gordita.

Yeah, leaving out the crispy.

Yeah, the cheesy?

Yeah.

Crunch.

Yeah.

Grapes.

Gumbo.

Grapes are good.

Gumbo said.

Goats.

Pretty good list.

Goat cheese.

Pretty good.

You guys like goat cheese?

I'm not a big goat cheese.

Goat cheese is good in a salad.

Greg Olson, George Kittle.

Shout out to our boys.

This one got turned down.

Oh, green lights.

Grandparents.

Green lights is good.

Green lights are great.

Yep.

Green lights are great.

Guts, the show.

Do you have it?

Guts.

What did you say?

This one got turned down for Max.

Grandparents.

Oh, yeah.

PFT said that.

Oh, he said it?

Yeah.

Galaxy.

The galaxy?

The galaxy.

The Milky Way Galaxy.

Pretty fucking sick.

Grateful Best.

Gash.

Gilmore.

Gash.

Gash.

You guys.

Oh, Gilmore Girls.

Oh, man.

Gilmore Guys, the podcast.

Gilmore Guys, the podcast.

Fuck yes.

Pretty good.

Groot, the superhero.

Oh, wait, who?

Groot.

And Groot.

I don't know who that is.

I'm aware of

Guardians of the Galaxy.

Yeah, I watched Guardians of Galaxy.

Greg movie.

I thought they were talking about Groove from

uh despicable me

also another great g yeah good grew he kind of runs the minions you know he is the uh overseer of the minions yeah he's the ringleader of the minions that's got to be a sick arsenal to have yeah max when you talk about this draft who do who do you got it's i'll say this so we've been doing this on grit week on the rv if i remember correctly

The two

the two memorable moments from the RV is Max not liking titty fucking and liking girls.

And look at that chick.

Look at that.

That chick was strong.

Yeah, put those together.

So you don't like titty fucking and you like girls.

That wasn't Grit Week, though.

That was beer.

No, I'm talking about just the RV.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yeah.

But if you put the...

I'm done participating in this conversation.

No titty fucking.

I'm done participating in this conversation.

I will not raise my voice.

No, you didn't get rage bait.

That's me at once.

Nope.

At all.

Me just kept telling me.

He was like, relax, relax.

It's fine.

Just give me the mic.

Just tried to take the mic.

He didn't even know he picked GTA.

Yeah.

You blacked out?

You blacked out GTA.

All right.

It's time for Charles Barkley.

Let's do it.

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And now here is the round mound of rebound, Sir Charles Barkley.

Okay, we welcome, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest.

The most special guest.

I appreciate that.

You can probably hear that laugh and know exactly.

Special, yes, damn.

Very special guest.

This is Grit Week.

It's presented by Hey Dude.

So we start every Grit Week with the same question.

Yes.

Charles Barkley is our guest, the man, the myth, the legend.

Let's start with what does the word grit mean to you?

Good question.

I think it's just your competitive nature.

Like

talent is different for everybody.

The notion that everybody's going to be on the same talent level.

When I see grit, I think about TJ McConnell.

Like just like that dude gives you everything he's got.

And that's all you can ask for any player.

I think me as a performer player, an announcer, and a fan, I hate when you can see people just half-assing it.

You know, we're the luckiest people in the world to get paid a ton of money to do something stupid.

You know, bless all these guys, but we're the luckiest people in the world to get to do something silly and fun.

It's facts.

And you make a lot of money.

You make more money than teachers, firemen, policemen, doctors, anybody in the armed service to dribble a stupid ball or hit up a stupid ball or carry a stupid ball.

We're going to talk about guys that do that.

Yeah, we just

really dumbest jobs.

But man, grit to me, just like, just compete, man.

I can live with the results, win or lose, because, you know, that's going to happen.

But if you compete and like give it your best, that's all you can ask for.

Yeah.

I think you show grit with your golf game.

You never quit.

You got better.

Yeah, you know, I've been to hell and back.

I just think I remember I forgot to put on deodorant.

That's grit.

You know, you know, I was just thinking.

We can get you some.

You We'll get you some.

I've got to get, you know, so, you know, I hate when you put on a colored shirt and you get to white marks.

Yeah.

And let me tech check.

Listen, fuck.

I forgot to put it.

Go to the Edgewood shopping.

I need some antiperspirant.

Go into the hotel.

No, because

there's nothing worse when you put on a shirt and you get to all the white marks.

Yeah.

And I specifically put on my shirt and I said, I've got to remember, don't forget to put on deodorant.

And I forgot it like a damn moron.

But you know what?

It's forward to go back to your original question.

You know,

it really sucked to be bad at golf.

It was frustrating because I'd never been bad at anything in my life.

And because I was really good and then I got too many lessons.

And when I was standing over the golf ball, I had like 10 guys talking to me.

And I ain't going to lie, I was terrified over the ball.

And the best thing that ever happened to me, I was at Tom Lehman's golf tournament, and I met a guy named Stan Utley.

And I told him, I stand, I don't even play anymore.

I just play for charity, embarrass myself for charity.

And then the next thing I know, he says, hey, give me a chance.

I stand.

I've given up because I'd worked with Butch,

Hank.

I'd work with every teacher in the world.

My brain was fried.

And man, thank goodness I met Stan Utley and he bought me back from death.

Yeah, I would say grit too is your career, like your high school career, growing.

You grew six inches from junior to senior year?

Yeah, I was a bag, bag a 5'10 backup chubby point guard and i grew from 5'10 to 6'5 in one year and you know the you know people always ask me i didn't have any body issues yeah i was never in pain you know when i got back to school i knew i'd grown a little bit i didn't know i had grown that much so i went from being a chubby backup point guard to a 6'5

all-state player.

So, man,

it was a great time.

Yeah, and the story goes that like, you know, you weren't weren't recruited until the very end of your high school career in the state tournament.

Yeah.

Like that's when you started to get people to look at you.

That's that's kind of a crazy sliding doors moment where if you don't ball out in the state tournament.

Yeah, it was crazy because I had never gotten a letter

going into my senior year.

So most because people always say Charles Barker came out of nowhere.

That's because I grew.

But, you know, most teams have already contacted who they want to recruit and offer them scholarships.

So the turning point was me.

I played against one of the best players in the country.

Name was Barbie Lee Hurt.

Went to Alabama, and people wasn't sure because I was only like 6'5.

They didn't know if I could play against big dudes.

And Bobby Lee was like 6'10.

And he was the number one big man in the country.

And I think I had 20-20.

And then that's when I started getting letters.

But it was really just Auburn, Alabama, UAB, some smaller schools.

And

the best decision I ever made was going to Auburn because,

in fairness, the only reason I went to Auburn is because they sucked.

You know, because, you know, it was really, and it was actually a really good thing because

I was really close with my mother and grandmother.

So UAB is only 30 minutes from my house, but they actually made it to the Sweet 16 and had everybody coming back.

Alabama got Bobby Lee and Ennis, but they made it to the Sweet 16 and had everybody coming back.

So when I went down to Auburn, they had lost like 12, 13 games in a row.

And I was like, yeah, this is a place where me y'all suck.

Because, you know, I tell, you know, all these dummies who who go to college today and transfer, I says, you have to make an educated guess or you're going to get to play.

Right.

I says, don't give me the education, BS, because if you want an education, you can get that anywhere.

But the number one reason,

when you're a jock, you want to play.

Right.

And the best thing that happened to me was going to Auburn, getting to play right away.

Because if I went to Alabama,

well, UAB first, Alabama second, I wasn't going to get to play.

But I tell all these kids, you see these dummies all the time now.

Well, didn't you see who they had on the team when you went there?

Right.

Then they transferred, like, I'm not getting to play.

I'm like, dummy, then you, what were you doing when you were on your recruiting trip?

I probably shouldn't go to Duke if I'm playing behind Cooper Flag.

Right.

Right.

I mean, so these kids, they make these bonehead decisions.

I said, man, go where you're going to get a chance to play.

Yeah.

How much money would Charles Barkley have made in the NIL era?

Oh, I'd have made a lot.

I mean, you know, I would have made a lot, but you know what?

They've got to fix this thing because it is totally out of whack and out of control right now it's an unsustainable business model to big donors like myself for millions of dollars every year i love my colleague but i'm not going to go broke giving them money uh every year i mean it's just an unsustainable business model

to pay kids 20 30 million dollars a year uh there's no business that can do that uh i'm not against guys making money

Bless, like whatever guys make an NBA in college, bless them.

But this model we we got in college now, where you can just pay kids tens of millions of dollars, that's just unsustainable, yeah, yeah.

Um, inside the NBA, the I'm happy it's still going on, uh, yeah, I'm happy it's going on, but it's gonna, it's a it's uh, it's gonna be interesting, yeah, it's gonna be different, it's gonna be different.

We, but that you know, that's the bad thing about it, we don't know how it's gonna be different, right?

But it could be different, good, you never know.

Well, you know, we have questions, yeah.

Like, normally, the number one time on our show is after the game, right?

You get like 45 minutes to shoot, shoot the show.

That's the magic, Yeah.

But me and Ernie have talked about it.

Like, are we going to get to do that?

Are they going to say, we got to go to the sports center?

Right.

And like, first of all, it's an honor to work for ESPN because they're the biggest sports network in the history of television.

But like, when we have those 45 minutes and it's like one o'clock in the morning and we can just go play.

And it gets weird.

It gets weird.

Yeah.

Like, that's the magic.

Yeah.

But.

Are they going to say, no, guys, y'all got 15 minutes.

We got to go to sports center?

Yeah, I hope not.

No, I don't think because here, well, here was my question: The you guys had like a basically a two-year everyone love fest, which you deserved, but it had to feel good.

But I think the fans of Inside the NBA are so vocal that if they mess with it, you're gonna have an army behind you being like, Yeah, but ESPN got their own thing, like they're gonna have, like, they're gonna have to get to sports center.

I know, but there's a lot of pressure when you when there's something that's that good, yeah, you guys are that good, but that's the thing, we don't know, yeah, we don't know.

Um, because everybody can say right now,

You're gonna leave everything the same, but like if the game ends

The sports center gonna say no, y'all got 45 minutes to shoot the shit, or we need to go to sports center in 15 or 20 minutes, right?

It's it's gonna be a learning curve.

So like I say we excited because of the main reason everybody got to keep their job because I ain't gonna lie it really sucked really sucked the last couple years, especially the last year, because

for me personally, I learned a lot about myself.

What I mean by that is

I've never been around people who had to worry about paying their bills.

Right.

You know, because all my friends are basketball players and rich people.

Right.

And they're like, you know, and the people I've been working with for 25 years, because we always go out and drink after the show, hearing guys talk about mortgage.

I was like saying to myself, what's a mortgage?

Say,

I can't send my, I got to get my kid into a public school instead of private.

And I was sitting there like, man, you are kind of out of touch with reality.

Right.

And

these people I really genuinely like and love because I've been with them for 25 years, but to hear them talk about, man, we're going to lose our job in six months.

And then as it gets closer, you can see the concern.

And I thought TNT,

our bosses did a shitty job.

They did an awful job of keeping us abreast.

I give an example.

Like,

we were playing golf during the playoffs, and we we were reading the internet, finding out if we were going to get fired or not.

Right.

And I was like, TNT, our bosses, they sucked, plain and simple.

They're like, yo, man, just tell us.

Yeah, let us know.

Shoot us straight.

Shoot us straight.

These are real people.

We literally were playing golf during the playoffs, looking at the internet.

Then one story said we lost it.

The next story said we're still in negotiation.

Then we lost it.

We're still in negotiations.

And TNT never came to us like grown folks and said, hey, guys,

we're probably going to lose to NBA, which we could have understood.

Right.

But I thought they sucked.

I told them they sucked because there's a way you treat people.

Yeah.

Because if they had came to us and said, hey, you know what?

It's a lot of money because, you know, we were paying $1.2 billion a year and it went to 2.5 billion.

That's a lot of money for 11 years.

If they had said it's not a good deal, we would have understood.

But to let us hear about it.

And I'll tell you something really shitty about it too.

I found out that we got traded to ESPN from ESPN.

That's got, yeah.

No, so this is a true story.

So I'm sitting at home on a Friday night.

I get a text, because all the rumors in the air, we didn't know anything.

I'm sitting at home on a Friday night.

I get a text from Scott Van Pelt,

Brian Winhorse.

L Duncan, and Bob Myers.

Welcome me to the family.

Like, what family?

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

And then about an hour and a half later, I get a call from TNT.

They're like, well, the story broke.

I says, well, you probably could have gave us a heads up.

Yeah, you've known for a couple of days.

I says,

you traded us to ESPN and we have to hear about it on the internet.

I said, that's just not the way you do business.

I said, Ernie Johnson deserved, because he's the godfather.

Ernest Johnson's just not here.

He got traded from ESPN people of the internet.

Right.

Was it a full trade or are you guys still doing work for TNT?

Well, that's actually a great question.

Great question.

Thank you.

They're trying to do something.

We don't know what it is yet.

We taped a pilot and it was a shit pilot.

Yeah.

So it was brutal.

It was brutal.

Wait, tell me about the shit pilot.

I want to hear more about the shit pilot.

So

we did four segments.

One segment, and one thing I got to get to Craig, they said it was awful, and it's never going to see.

So we did like four segments.

One segment was Kenny doing fashion.

One segment was like Shaq doing Shaq

the funny section you do.

I forget.

We did axe throwing and then we did finger painting.

We did like four 15 minute

sections and I was sitting there like,

I think this is stupid.

I don't know how stupid it's going to be until I see it.

And when we walked out the studio that night, we were like, that's the stupidest shit we've ever done.

And that's, that's my major concern with TNT.

I think we can handle the ESPN portion, but I don't want them doing something stupid with our show to people, like, man, they really ruined that show.

Right.

Yeah, right.

I mean, but I will say, I give them credit.

They said the pilot was shitty.

That's an important thing to know.

It's important to know.

Yeah.

They're finally straight with you.

Yes.

Yeah.

I said, and that's all you want.

Yeah.

Because I don't want us, number one, you gave us a great company.

I've enjoyed our show all these years and people love our show.

Don't just do something stupid just to do it.

It's great television.

And the pilot should be just put you four guys in a room.

Yeah.

And the microphones.

And that's it.

Well, the problem is Kenny and Shaq don't watch sports.

So, like, I can talk about the NFL.

Like, I got up this morning and watched Sabalenka play.

That was a hell of a match.

You know, I get up and watch all sports.

I do.

I love.

Football is my favorite sport and boxing.

Those are my two favorite.

But Ken and Shaq are not going to watch sports.

Ernie will watch.

Ernie went to the French Open and he saw that amazing final between Alcatraz and Center.

And I was sitting at home and I was texting Ernie, this is the greatest match I've ever seen.

He's still there because I saw him in the semifinal.

And then I said, Yo, you please tell me you had this match.

It was the greatest thing I've seen in a long time.

Yeah, let me get your thoughts on the NFL.

You're a big football fan.

Yeah, I'm a big Eagles fan.

Shout out, Go Birds.

Okay, all right.

So, how are we feeling about the birds rolling it back next year?

Well, they're going to be really good.

I think the number one thing you have to worry about when you win is

guys relaxing.

You have to change your mindset when you win.

You have to realize, like, we're going to be the hunted, not the hunter.

But I think with Saquon and Jalen and

Coach Nick, you know, they got, Harry Roseman, probably the best GM in the NFL now.

They're going to be good.

But man, you have to hope, you have to be, because when you go that deep in the playoffs, you have to be healthy.

So you don't play on an extra three or four or five games, man, it takes a toll on you.

But the main thing, you know, man, Saquon was a gift from heaven.

i can't wait to meet him i never met my cousin uh i'm gonna he's a barkley so i'm gonna if you that good as a barkley i'm gonna claim you yeah absolutely

uh so i'm really looking forward to this year i'm really looking forward to uh college football as usual auburn should be better but i'm really excited about coach belichek at carolina yep man i'm really pulling he's a good friend of mine uh and i really want to see him do well down there i was telling big cat last night we were talking about belichek that yeah

the last couple months for for belichek have not been good well it's probably made him think like he's spent what not been good

we've seen Jordan yeah we love Jordan we've had her back

she needs more power she yeah she needs to stay stand down no no no no she needs to run the program no no let's hey you know

I I

struggle whether to call coach and just but I prefer to stay out of people's personality

but she's got to stand down

because

you got to understand something.

They're using her to get to Bill.

Yeah.

And she has to understand that because people don't like Bill.

And he deserves some blame for that because the way he treated the media, now the way it ended in New England, they want to get him back.

So they're using her to get to him.

I just hope he's successful because he's a great dude.

He's the greatest.

pro football coach ever because Coach Sabin's the greatest college coach ever.

I want to see him finish on a high note.

That's my number one concern.

I want to see him finish on a high note.

Yeah, I just think the last, what, 20, 25 years of Belichick's career, he's avoided the media.

He's like, these jackals.

I'm never going to give them anything.

And then the last time.

You can do that when you're winning.

You can do that when you're winning.

And then

that's like these guys annoy me.

They're like, you can treat the media how you want to when you win.

Yep.

But you got to understand when you're a loser, they're going to come for you.

Yeah.

It's like these golfers now, where I don't have to talk to the media.

I'm like, well, you run to them when you do well.

Yeah.

Well, you got a product.

See, that's the thing.

You know, these, like, we're in a business relationship with the media.

I tell these guys, yo, man, that's the reason we make all this money.

The media pays it.

But you have to understand something.

When you want to sell a product, you go to the media.

When you play great, you run to the media.

When you play like shit, you can't avoid the media.

That's why I'm starting to get pissed off with some of these golfers now.

Like, when you got a new product come on, you go on TV

and hype it and talk about it.

But when you play bad, they're going to write bad things about you.

That's the way this is a business relationship.

I understand it.

I tell all the guys, yo, man, when you do good, they're going to write good stuff about you.

When you do bad, they're going to talk bad about you.

If you don't understand the business relationship, you need to get another real job.

Did you understand that when you were playing?

I did.

Dr.

J, who was great for me, Moses Malone's the most important person in my career because he made me lose 50 pounds.

I didn't realize I was fat and lazy until he told me.

I said, because I wasn't getting to play early in my career.

I said, Moses, why am I not getting to play?

He says, well, Chuck, you're fat and you're lazy.

I'm like, what do you mean?

He says, which part did you not understand?

He says, son, you're really talented, but you weighed 300 pounds.

You can get away with that in high school.

You can get away with that in college.

You can't get away with it in the NBA.

And this guy worked with me before practice, after practice.

He said, let's lose 10 pounds.

I noticed the difference right away.

He said, let's lose 20.

Now I'm starting to get the start.

He said, let's lose 30.

Let's lose 40.

And I get to 250.

And that's what I played at my whole career.

But if it wasn't for him constructively criticizing me, he wasn't doing it to be mean.

He was constructively criticizing me.

That's why I liked a lot of these punks today.

You know, constructive criticism is not trying to be critical.

Sometimes you need it.

Yeah.

You need the straight answer.

Yeah, you need to straight.

Yeah.

You know, so Moses is the most important person in my career.

But Doc taught me how to deal with the media.

He said, the first question, like some guys in the media, they're just trying to get clicks.

Well, I'm so old.

They didn't call them clicks back then.

Yeah, just trying to get your attention.

They don't pay fairs.

Yeah, but he says the first question you have to ask, is the criticism fair?

I said, what do you mean?

He says, some criticisms are fair.

He says,

then you say, if it's unfair, you let it go.

Because those are guys that are trying to get attention and get clicks and things like that.

But the first question you have to ask yourself, is the criticism fair?

And that taught me how to deal with the media.

Yeah.

It's really smart.

I know you're not a role model famously.

Yeah.

you are a role model for me in gambling, thank you because

you have the right approach to it where it's something fun.

I love to gamble, yeah, I don't want to be shamed for it, yeah, I like to do it, yes, I've been blessed to make more money as I go along, so obviously, I gamble.

You have to rein it, you have to rein it in, though, yeah, of course.

I could fun, so I love gambling, but I had I became a total crazy person because

I won a million dollars

probably

10 times.

I've lost a million dollars probably 30 times.

And what I've so every time I went to Vegas,

I'd be up $300,000, $400,000, $500,000.

My friends would be like, dude, you got to quit.

We up.

Let's go.

Let's go get drunk and have some fun.

I'm like, no.

In my mind, I was like, I want to win a million because I've done it a few times.

And then I just kept losing.

And I lost a lot, millions and millions and millions.

And I quit for like two years.

And I was out with my friends one night.

We like to smoke cigars and drink.

I said, man, I sure miss Vegas, miss casinos.

And one of my things I demand out of my friends, man, be honest with me at all times.

Just tell me the truth.

I can deal with it.

He says, yo, man, gambling ain't your problem.

Being a fucking idiot is your problem.

Explain.

They're like, dude, gambling is peaks and valleys.

We have sit there with you, you'd be up $300,000, $400,000.

We're like, Chuck, let's go get drunk for the night, quit.

But you want to get to the imaginary million, then you lose that, and then you lose the whole million credit line you got.

He said, dude, let's go to Vegas, win a couple hundred thousand dollars, lose a couple hundred thousand dollars, and then have a fun weekend.

Yeah.

And I said,

okay, you know what?

Let's try this.

So now,

because, you know, I live in Scottsdale, so I go to Vegas.

We go to Vegas every two to three weeks.

There's nothing like a football weekend there, Sportsbook.

And it's like, okay,

we know how much credit you got.

Let's win a couple hundred thousand.

Enjoy watching all the games.

We lose a couple hundred thousand.

Let's quit, go drink, we play golf.

And I'm like, because.

I'm not going to be mad if I lose a couple hundred thousand dollars.

Now, when I lose a million, I'm depressed for like a week.

Kidding, it's not funny anymore.

It's not fun anymore.

Right.

But I had to be like, okay, dude, you love to gamble.

Go and lose a couple hundred thousand.

You ain't going to be mad.

Yeah.

But you win a couple hundred thousand dollars.

Oh, man, we had a great weekend.

Yeah.

And that's what I do now.

You also, I like your honesty about it because I try to do the same thing where it's like, listen, I'm a loser.

Yeah.

I lose.

I've lost my whole life.

No, sometimes I win.

Hey, let me tell you something.

My casino host, who's a great friend of mine.

Well,

are you sure?

Yes.

If you didn't gamble with you, I still

fall in love with a stripper.

No, that's right.

So I got a couple hosts.

Dan Napier and Bill Munson, the two of my hosts, they've been friends for a long time.

He says, dude, we don't care when you win.

We like it when you win.

You know why you're going to come back.

Right.

He says, my job as your host

is just to get you here as many times as possible because we're going to win.

Yeah.

And I said, what?

He says, They don't build these pretty ass buildings because people are winning.

He says, we like it when you win.

We know you're definitely going to come back.

Yeah.

But he says, my job as your host is just to get you here as many times as possible.

And we're gonna give you all the toys and trinkets.

You know, they're gonna send a private jet for you.

I'm getting a case of Christ all Rosé.

Thanks, CL, for getting me hooked on that.

And he's like, you get all this free crap that ain't free if you lose.

But he said, he says, dude, we love it when you win because we know you're coming back for sure.

But our job is to get get you here as much as possible because the more you come, you're going to lose.

Because I always tell people, I hate when guys say I'm a good gambler.

Don't tell me you're a good gambler when you're getting shit cards.

Yeah.

Right.

How in the hell are you a good gambler if the dealer's turning over 20 and you got 17?

But that's that's exactly what I hate.

I hate when guys are like, yeah, like I always win.

You don't always win.

Stop it.

This is going to get you the biggest, like, you're going to win this bet.

You're going to lose.

You're going to lose.

I like to do it.

It's fun.

It's fun.

That's a good way to look at at it.

And so I'll tell you, actually, the only way to win.

It's quit.

No.

Football,

gambling on sports is the only way to win.

But

you have to bet the money line.

Yeah.

Where you're only going to win cents on the dollar.

Yeah.

Because

teams always win.

They just never cover.

I know.

But if you would bet, this is just my opinion.

If you bet the money line and say, instead of trying to win $1,000, win $50,000,

win 500 or 750 and happy with that.

That's the way I think the only way you can win, betting.

You're sounding like my, I had a bet for a while that was called the can't lose parlay that actually got banned.

It became illegal.

Yeah.

It lost all the time.

That was the joke.

And I said it was a can't lose parlay.

I would never make it like a game.

I would never do parlays.

Parlays are the stupidest thing ever.

Listen, there's an official transcript of Massachusetts Gambling Commission being like, Dan Katz is the worst gambler of all time.

It's well known.

And it's like, there we go.

Hey, you know,

I went through a period of like two months where I tried to play parlays and you hit always

three out of four.

You always hit three out of four.

And the thing that pisses you off is always the fourth one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like,

that's why you get them damn good ass odds.

I says, yo, man, we can never do parlays.

I says, that's the reason they're giving you 10, 12 to 1, because you always hit three out of four and it pisses you off.

Yeah, also, I want to give you a quick compliment.

We saw you at the casino last night.

You were playing blackjack.

I feel like this is not a normal move.

You were playing significant amount.

I think it was whatever it was, 25 grand a hand.

Guy next to you, your friend, was playing $200 a hand.

I feel like most guys don't let that happen where it's like, but you're just there with your friends.

Yes.

And that's a cool move.

I only play with my friends.

Right.

Because

they all ask me, do you want me to take this hit?

Yeah, right.

Because I'm playing $25,000 a hand and he's playing for $200,000.

I says, take it.

And then if he wins and I lose, I'm like, okay, he asked me.

Yeah.

There's nothing worse than playing with a fucking idiot.

Back in the day, I used to play with an idiot and they take a shit hit and win and they go crazy and they fuck the rest of the table.

Right.

And you can't beat the shit out of them because you want to.

That's nothing.

That's why I don't play with random strangers.

You're like,

you hit that.

Dealers got 16 and you hit that and they hit.

And they fuck the rest of the table.

Because nobody else is going to take a hit.

You know, the dealer's got 16.

You're not supposed to hit.

And they get like a four or five and they get 20 or 21.

And I said, you weren't supposed to take that hit.

Yeah.

Then the dealer turns over.

I'm like, oh my God.

And when that person's playing at the end of the table, right next to the dealer, they fuck up.

They fuck the rest of the table.

First base and third base are really important.

Hey, listen, if you're going to sit at third, I'm like, you better ask me my damn opinion.

Exactly.

Because you're not paying for what I'm playing for.

Yes.

Yeah.

So your process for betting on NFL Sunday, you like to bet favorites, money line?

I do.

I think that's the only way you can win.

I think, well, so my strategy is it's a bad strategy, so you should not follow it.

I do a lot of reading going into the weekend.

I feel like I'm ready.

I read what all the experts are saying, and they're usually telling me to take Steve.

Don't ever do that again.

Like, take Steve Young.

Steve Young.

I hate Steve Young to this day.

So Steve Young, I'm in Atlanta.

I had went to Coach Belichick's practice.

And I'm like, and I go on TV and I says, man, I think the Giants are going to win the Super Bowl.

I said live on TNT.

I think the Giants are going to win the Super Bowl.

I say, I don't think the Patriots are going to go 17, 18, and 0.

I say,

the Giants are going to win.

I've been to Vegas 26 straight years for the Super Bowl.

I get on the plane.

I get up Saturday.

We go play golf.

I get up Sunday.

We go play golf.

I make the mistake of turning on the TV.

I got the Giants all weekend.

Steve Young gets on TV and says, Guys, we're going to have the first undefeated season since the Miami Dolphins.

I said, oh, shit.

Every time I see Steve Young here, I just hate him so much.

You let him know?

I do.

Yeah, you have.

He says, I can't believe that I'm, this is the first time in my life I've seen a team go undefeated since the Dolphins.

He said, I was a little kid when the Dolphins won, I think it was 72.

He said, we're going to have the first undefeated team in NFL history since the 72 Dolphins.

I I tell my guys, man, I just saw Steve.

Yeah, the last thing you listened to.

That's the last thing.

That's why

I go back to your point, man.

I don't want to listen to guys on, like, you listen.

I don't want to read too much.

Like, I start, I wait to normally Thursday before I start watching NFL,

NFL Live.

I'm like, okay, that's a good point.

Okay, that's a good point.

But then I said, okay, I take what they say because, you know, they're good at it.

But then you got to make your own decision.

Because I learned from Steve Young, man, because I was like, man, they're going to, Mike, Mike, because I remember, because if you go back and look, I remember in the press conference, a guy said, Tom Brady, he says,

they said you're only going to score

17 points.

And Tom kind of snickered like, oh, they're going to hold us to 17 points because, you know, they were averaging like 35, 40 that year.

He says, yeah, somebody said, and Tom's like, we only going to score 17 points.

I don't even know if they scored 17.

I mean, because that defense was ferocious.

But no, man, I try not to.

I listen to them, but they get them wrong all the time, too, now.

I read the gambling guys that tell you to take the least fun bets ever.

The ones that you hate watching, like the unders.

That's the thing.

I'm like, I don't want to sit here rooting for no points.

So one of the reasons what drives me crazy is when a favorite is winning and they don't cover, because like halfway through the third quarter, I started rooting for the upset because I know they know what's going on.

Yes, no doubt.

you know it's absolutely because you know right away, oh shit, they're not going to cover.

I want them to lose.

They're going to win the game.

You flip, you're like, I'm rooting against them.

Yeah, I want, like, they're going to win the game, but they're not going to cover.

That pisses me off.

Fuck me.

Oh, yeah.

That pisses me off.

Second time.

Are you at all nervous that Wemby is going to be like generational talent and you're going to have to go to San Antonio a bunch for the NBA Finals?

Listen, man.

I want the Spurs to do good.

Because my love for Coach Popovich,

you know, I like messing with them.

They some great fans down there.

It's funny.

I mean, it's, and they actually feel like they've taken it, like, gone back.

Have more fun.

Yeah.

See, you know what?

See, you guys are so much younger than me.

See, the world is so fucked up now.

I'm so old when you could actually joke.

Yeah.

I tell people, remember when you could actually tell jokes back in the day and people laughed?

Now they're like, oh, you're going to get canceled.

You're going to get fired.

I'm like, you know, sometimes a joke is just a joke.

That's the thing I hate about this whole society today.

I think think that people

i trust people they're like he's joking

like

he's not like if i called a person fat that's rude and disrespectful it's punching down yeah i would never punch i would never say that to i would never walk up on a woman and say you're fat that's just rude and inappropriate number one i'm big myself um

but

This thing has gotten so out of whack now.

Come on, man.

I trust the public.

Y'all know I'm just joking about something, but it's gotten so out of whack.

Like, I can't imagine your guy, you guys, like you, you have to worry what you say

all the time, which is stupid.

You're right, though, yeah.

I think that,

let's say, if I heard y'all say something, I'm like, that was a joke.

Right.

Fucking relax.

Right.

Like, but somebody's always, somebody's offended by everything.

Someone, yeah.

Maybe Taylor Swift fans.

Somebody's offended by everything.

Yeah, it is.

Except Galveston, you were right about Galveston.

Oh, my goodness.

That is true.

Yeah, that was a crash.

First of all, I had to go back.

Everybody was great in Galveston.

Because, number one, I didn't want to get traded from Phoenix.

I was kind of going through the doldrums, and the Rockets bring me in.

I said, you know, I want to finish my career in Phoenix.

They're like, well, we have training camp at the beach.

I'm like, oh, okay, that's a plus.

So I like, you know, because I did want to finish my career in Phoenix.

I got shocked by the trade.

And I'm like, okay, at least I can spend a week at the beach to get my head right going into my last couple years of my career, I drive down to Gavson.

We're right on the water.

I'm looking, damn, that water kind of dirty.

And I say, yo, what's going on over here?

They're like, well, Gavston is located.

So we got a beach that we kept, you have to wear your shoes on the beach, and the water is up in your ankles, and it's dirty, all and garbage.

We ain't at the beach.

We in hell.

Yeah.

You don't wear shoes and go,

you get like tar.

What good is having a beach if you can't walk in the water?

Hey, there's a beach right across here but we can't go on it yeah you can drive on the beach

there's like motor oil spill and i had to go back the people were really nice yeah but man there's no need what a good is having a beach if you can't use i agree with you 100 yes can we talk about a great beach barcelona oh dream team that was great how much fun how much fun was going to barcelona it was crazy uh you know the best thing about it the guys were so cool We got along so well.

We had so much respect for each other.

Now, the practice was crazy.

We're trying to kill each other because a lot of egos going on out there.

But man, we had so much fun.

I mean, the guys,

the guys were so much fun to be around.

Like,

Magic and Michael and me and Scotty played cards every night for three, four, five hours.

Who's the best?

Whoever got the best hands.

Michael is a, Michael tries to buy the pot.

He didn't realize we all rich.

It's like, okay, we all got money, dude.

Yeah.

He always tries to buy the pot.

Like, I'm going to raise you.

Like, we got money too, fool.

But that was so much fun.

We went through a couple cases of beer every night.

Larry Bird and Patrick Yorn became like great friends.

We made up shirts, Harry and Larry.

I mean, they became great friends.

Man, it was so cool.

Was there ever a moment where you're like, we got a game tomorrow, we got to be ready for this?

Or was it like, we're the best team of all time?

So

we,

Chuck Daly says,

you guys do know if we lose, this will be the greatest upset in sports history, right?

We're like, oh, never even thought about it like that.

Right.

He says, you guys, we can't be fucking around.

And then from that point on, we're like,

kill, just kill.

You know, that's why, you know, people like, we weren't trying to win games by 60, 70 points, but Chuck says, this would be the greatest upset in sports history.

Yeah.

They would never stop talking about it.

They call y'all the dream team.

It'll be a nightmare if we lose.

And Chuck was so awesome.

He had two different starting lineups.

Everybody just like, hey, you're going to start this game.

You're going to start.

And so the guys were just amazing.

Yeah.

And it was fun, too.

Yeah.

You ever fuck with Shaq and be like, hey, you remember Barcelona?

Shaq wanted to say he was on like the second dream team.

We're like, no, you're like on the fourth dream team.

And it was fun to go into barcelona on the beach because we took like an hour and a half two hour walk every day because you know it was a topless beach yep and we'd be like great

put a shirt on great put a shirt on

great great great put a shirt on like we would just walk up and down the everyday down the beach it was beautiful but you know um First of all, we went to the pool because they were topless at the pools.

We always went up there and got a case of beer and sit by the pool and watch.

And as we got that, before we took a nap, we walked on the beach and we just looked at these women like, wow, impressive.

Please put a shirt on.

Wow, impressive.

We did that like every day.

So you were the leading scorer on that team, right?

Yes.

So how did that work out?

Was there any, like, I know there's a lot of superstars on that team.

Sometimes, you know, we always joke that there's just one ball.

That's what we say when we don't have shit else to say.

We're like, there's one ball.

I don't know if these great players are going to play well together.

But since

you get to spread around, it's easy for great players because they can play without the ball.

So you can never be a great player if you don't play without the ball.

And if you play with other great players, it's really easy.

The Warriors.

Yeah, like the better players you play with, the easier the game is.

Like when you're a one-man wrecking crew, it ain't no fun at all.

Like my last few years in Philly, I was by myself, basically.

But when I got traded to Phoenix and got Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson and Mark West and those Setzaballos and those guys, that's why I got MVP.

I was a much much better player in Philly, but because I had Dan Martin, Kevin Johnson, those guys, the game was so much easier for me.

So was there any, like, I don't know if even jealousy is the right word for me.

No, we had no jealousy.

No competition.

Like, hey, Charles, that was a practice.

The practice were the most intense things I've ever been through in my life because

you had Michael and Clyde who hated each other.

Yeah.

You had Magic and Scotty, and Scotty had just locked.

Magic up in the finals.

They were trying to kill each other.

You had Carl Malone and me, who was trying to prove who was the best power forward in the world.

He had David Robinson and Patrick Young who was trying to prove who was the best center.

So the practices were, they're the most intense thing I've ever been through in my life.

The games were easy.

Yeah.

But let me tell you something.

Those practices were like game sevens.

It was incredible.

The intensity,

the ego, like it was on,

it was crazy.

But that was the only time, that's when it was tough at practice.

The games were like, hey, man, we represent the United States.

Let's get it done.

Because it didn't call a timeout.

No.

The entire tournament.

Well, we didn't need no timeout.

We used to have to whoop ass and take names.

Yeah.

All right.

So I know you got to go in a second.

This has been awesome.

Thank y'all for having me.

I got a couple quick hitters for you.

Last time that you had a bar of soap get stuck in your ass.

So,

you know,

I travel with my own soap.

I've almost, see, it's a conspiracy by these hotels.

Yeah.

These little ass bars of soap.

That's how they get you.

And they're out to get me.

They're out to get big asses.

So

I never use a rag, I just used a bar of soap, scrub my body down.

And I was wiping my ass a couple times.

I had a like, oh my god, that was close.

So now,

and I'll tell you what's funny.

I told this story on the podcast, me and Ernie's podcast.

You stole that name from me, by the way.

Yeah, this is the steam room.

Yeah, yeah.

It was crazy.

I didn't realize how many companies made big soaps.

So I had like, I'm not even joking.

Everyone, yeah.

I had like 200 bars of soap.

I gave them to a shelter, but every company had big soap, sent me some, some to Atlanta.

So I had enough soap to fill up a closet.

But now, you know, I travel with my own soap.

I'm never taking a chance with hotel soap again.

You can lose those little bars.

You can't roll that down.

No, you cannot.

I love it.

Because you know, once it's in there, it's in there.

Yeah.

It's just going to absorb into your body.

You're not getting that back.

So, yeah, I travel with my own big bars of soap now.

All right, so another hygiene question.

You said one time that you kept Vaseline inside your belly button.

Yes, I used to, Carl Malone told the story.

I filled it up before the game because there's nothing worse than a person with big lips.

And during the game, after you lick your lips a few times, they get all crusty and white.

So I used to stick Vaseline in my belly button.

It's a good place to hide it.

Yeah.

And Carl Malone's the only person told the world.

He says,

we had him on the show one night.

He said, you still keep Vaseline in your belly button?

I said, Ernie, go to the next course.

And he says, Carl, what are you talking about?

He says, This dude used to keep Vaseline in his belly button, but I did used to keep Vaseline in my belly button.

Because, man, let me tell you something.

There's nothing worse than a dude with big lips, and they're all white and crusty.

When it slides out, once you start to sweat, the Vaseline just drips out.

No, it stays in there a little bit because you have to reload it last time.

I guess if you got to pick a hole to keep Vaseline in.

That's the right hole.

The other hole was blocked by the ball.

Yeah, it's got soaked.

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We really, really appreciate it.

My last question, kind of similar to the soap where you get a bunch of soap, you know, sent to you.

Have you had recently a guy in a sauna try to give you a bracelet?

You know, you told that story that had a bracelet from a guy in Asauna.

See, Ernie, Shaq and Ernie and Kenny have to make something so pure, so evil.

The guy gave me, he,

I wasn't familiar with the bracelet thing.

And I was sitting in the steam room and I said, oh, man, it's a cut bracelet there.

He said, I forget what they call it.

He said, nice.

He said, blah, blah, blah.

It means this, this.

And when I get to the front desk from the heft club, the guy says, hey, Charles, we got something for you.

And it was the man's bracelet.

You know, I was like, wow, that's pretty cool.

And I made the mistake of telling them fools I work with.

He didn't give it to me in the steam room.

Oh, I thought he did.

But has that happened?

Because I feel like that would be a copycat thing where if you see Charles Barker in the steam room, you're giving him a bracelet.

No, he gave it to me.

He left it at the front desk, America.

He didn't give it to me.

I don't want a bracelet from another man in the steam room.

I don't want that.

But if anyone sees him, if anyone sees Charles in the steam room going forward, give him a bracelet.

That's exactly right.

It's almost worse than he left it for you.

He was thinking about you later.

Yeah.

He's like, I really like that.

I appreciate just generosity.

yes yes well chuck you're the best thank you we're huge huge fans uh thank you so much for giving us some time hey man it's my pleasure continued success yeah i'll see you in the casino tonight yeah you see you this at the casino and keep giving biz some shit oh that's my guy he is the best he's literally the best dude ever he is to do this though he thanks people too much he'll thank people for like

50 minutes afterwards because he's canadian so just like hey biz thank you canadian are nice people yeah they're very nice great guy but he needs to chill out with maple leaf stuff He thinks he's on the team.

No, man, I'm rooting for them.

Yeah.

They got to win soon.

Yeah.

I know they let Marna just go, but man, I root for that because that's my favorite city in the world.

Toronto is the best city in the world.

Wow.

I love it too.

Yeah.

Toronto is the best city in the world.

Easily.

Chicago Summer is the second best.

Those are my two favorite places in the world.

Yeah.

We got to get you the office.

I'll be there.

Yeah.

Sounds good.

All right.

Thanks.

Thanks, brothers.

Thanks, man.

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Wrapping up the show.

Happy Gilmore 2 came out.

This is not a paid advertisement advertisement because we did have Scotty Scheffler on, but we did not get paid by Happy Gilmore 2 to talk about the movie.

I just thought everyone was talking about it.

I feel like we aligned PFT.

We haven't talked about it.

Hank as well, because you watched it.

But I was watching it on the plane and you were sitting next to me and you probably got my reaction as I was watching.

Well, I fell asleep for a little bit, but

I thought it was exactly what I expected going in and that it wasn't the best movie.

It was nostalgia.

There was a shitload of cameos.

I laughed a few times and I went away being like, okay that was fun i actually thought it was a very funny movie i enjoyed it i didn't i don't know if i'd go as far as very funny but that's no i mean my mark is do i laugh more than six or seven times out loud yeah i laughed probably 10 times out loud during the movie i'll say this a lot of cameos the movie is pretty much entirely cameos and like throwback jokes guy fiery guy fiery's in there uh made me laugh the best cameo by far rob schneider yeah what a great job rob schnerder did that one he's so funny i will watch anything rob schneider's in rob you're the man Appreciate you, dog.

Yeah.

And if you do another movie, Adam Sandler, we do do a podcast.

There were some podcast cameos.

Hit us up.

No, it was weird because I saw a lot of people reacting to it.

I didn't watch it till Saturday night.

So people were reacting on Friday.

People were very upset.

And I was like,

I just don't understand if you, I would get it if you have to go to a movie theater to see the movie.

It's a made-for-streaming movie.

It's, you know, what it's going to be.

Like, you know, I knew going in, I could figure out the storyline within two seconds.

actually i kind of got a little like the shooter mcgavin storyline they did do a good job of switching that one up a little but

i like i expected i was like hey it's an hour and a half i'm gonna sit on my couch and watch it i'm gonna have a little nostalgia there's gonna be a few moments that make me laugh and i'm gonna go away being like okay that was fun not this is the worst movie ever i can't believe they did this i can't believe that people think that like it's just it was such a low bar you know what i mean yeah and you don't have to go you don't have to spend any money You just sit on your couch and watch it.

They didn't like try to make a brand new movie for Netflix.

It was like, oh, yeah, everyone has Netflix.

It was like very much just straight up, hey, we're going to redo Happy Gilmore and we're going to have modern people in it.

And it was good.

It was fine.

It was funny.

I enjoyed it.

I liked Ben Stiller returning.

I loved how now Brooks and Bryson saved professional golf from an upstart league that comes into it.

Well, I would love to watch the people from Live watching Happy Gilmore being like, this is funny.

They're making fun of us.

And then Brooks and Bryson are actually on the side of the PGA tour.

Yeah.

That was awesome.

I just don't, maybe I'm just, maybe I'm out of touch, but I never went into it being like, this is going to be better than the original Happy Gilmore.

No, if you, if you haven't,

if you're not.

Right.

So that's, but I think there were people who thought it was going to be better or on par with the original Happy Gilmore.

I never thought that.

I was like, I'm just going to take a little nostalgia, blast from the past, watch some cameos, and burn an hour and a half of where I can turn my brain off and just watch a movie.

Yeah, now, if you haven't seen Happy Gilmore and you just watched Happy Gilmore 2, it's probably the worst movie of all time.

Yeah.

If you've never seen the first one, that's fair.

But they didn't try to make a brand new movie.

They were just like, we're going to make a funny, silly movie that is basically all head nods to the Happy Gilmore 1 and also cameos from people that you recognize.

Yeah, I also think if it was in the movie theaters, people would have a legitimate complaint.

I watched pretty much all the Adam Sandler straight-to-streaming movies.

Yeah.

And they're all basically the same.

It's like you turn it on, you know that you basically can just turn your brain off, not have to worry about it being too serious or bum you out.

You'll laugh a couple times.

You're not going to think about it the next day.

You're not going to be like, that was one of the best movies I ever saw.

But you're going to laugh a couple times and be like, all right, that was cool.

John Daly was great, too.

John Daly was great.

Great job as an actor.

I wouldn't even call him a cameo.

He was like a part of the movie.

Yeah.

Reggie Bush was great.

Yeah, Reggie Bush was in there.

Bad Bunny.

I didn't know that.

Bad Bunny was actually incredible.

I had no idea that that was Bad Bunny.

I thought that he was just an actor.

I didn't know what he looked like.

I laughed out loud multiple times at bad bunny's part he was really good very funny very funny so yeah i i don't know why people i guess i just say i i do know why people get upset but i just feel like it accomplished everything that it was i was expecting it to not be blow me away that it was going to just be like a fun popcorn watch i was shocked on friday and saturday when i saw people online saying like i turned it off after five minutes i turned off it's like what what did you think you were getting yourself into when you started happy gilmore 2 correct that made you turn i actually thought that the plot twist like two minutes in the movie I laughed at it.

I thought that was funny.

That made memes very angry.

Yeah.

Memes was not a fan of the plot twist.

Yeah, memes, you're like a number one Adam Sandler fan, especially in like, you know, the good, bad movie draft.

Do you think that it qualifies?

It definitely qualifies.

I liked it.

I really enjoyed the family.

Like, their son's just beating everybody up.

I think they should have focused more on the kids and the family and shooter.

Were there too many cameos?

Too many cameos.

Way too many cameos.

The movie was like, how long was it?

Hour and a half?

It was like 90 TikToks.

Yeah.

Perfect.

Yeah.

Great fun.

Yeah.

Don't have to think.

Yeah.

Having any type of entertainment, when I count this podcast kind of in that genre of I don't have to turn my brain on,

I'm welcome to all of it.

I wish that after every like minute, when it switched from scene to scene, it just like scrolled up like you were watching TikTok.

Yeah.

Like it simulated a screen.

Someone will put it all on TikTok.

Yeah.

That's what they do, right?

they put full movies on tick tock yeah just one scroll at a time you can watch the whole thing yeah um yeah imagine turning it off and being like i'm gonna watch happy gilmore first one i can't believe that although when tuesday's gone hit it did make me think about the first one but there were enough actual throwbacks to footage from the first film that it felt like i watched half like half of happy gilmore won while i watched happy gilmore too yeah

yeah i mean this wasn't i'm not necessarily excited to watch but I will watch.

Happy Gilmore 1, the greatest movie of all time.

I think it's like it's the perfect movie.

All All time.

Yeah.

Oh, Boban.

Awesome job by Boban.

Great job by Boban.

Maybe he was the best cameo.

Yeah, he might have been the best cameo.

All right, we forgot to do lottery balls

in studio, so we're going to do something different.

This is,

I mean, it's grit week.

You can claim you won a grit week one.

I'm going to say, memes, will you feel like you've won the lottery ball if you win what we're about to do?

Absolutely not.

Okay.

All right.

What we're going to do is,

Chris, can you write down a number

on your phone?

One to one hundred

any number, one to one hundred.

He's gonna write it, we're gonna guess, and then he'll reveal because we forgot to do it.

That's our badge.

No, he'll show us right after.

Okay, tell us when.

Good?

All right, numbers: three-four,

seventy-four,

eighty-five, twenty-three,

seventeen.

I love 85.

You got one?

17.

I'll stick with 99 Poke.

All right.

89.

Shane, what'd you say?

Reveal it.

17.

That's Max's favorite number, too.

Fuck.

72.

Damn.

All right.

No one.

Damn.

You had 74 memes?

Take 74.

Memes, how many people asked you if you have gotten it yet?

There was a ton at the meetup today.

Yeah.

And they were like, oh, I think you're going to get it this week.

I was like, oh, we didn't film.

They go, damn.

And gave me a number.

Yeah.

Well, we do have a surprise for later on this week.

So maybe we'll be able to film it at some point.

Okay.

Good show, boys.

Great week.

Love it.

Love you guys.