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We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of Things Girls Don't Like About Guys, which was, I'll say it, an awesome Mount Rushmore.

It actually just, I think it just blackpilled all of us against women.

Yeah,

might have been my favorite Mount Rushmore we did this year.

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff.

Listen,

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There's a lot of reasons why sometimes women don't like us.

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Today is Wednesday, August 27th, and our long national nightmare is over.

Trey Henry.

Terry McLaurin.

Oh.

I was going to say, I was joking with you.

Terry McLaurin's a watch commander.

Terry McLaurin's a Washington commander.

Yes.

Yeah.

I was ready for that one.

They made it official today.

Yes.

Terry McLaurin is a Washington commander.

Actually, they made it official on Friday.

There's a secret extension

that got announced on Monday as first report on part of my take.

I'm just happy it's done.

I am happy for you, PFT.

Terry McLaurin signed.

What was the final deal?

We don't really know.

I think we have the agent numbers now, which is like three years, $96 million.

That makes it look like it's like DK's contract.

It's true bucks.

Yeah, so who knows?

He got a $30 million signing bonus.

Pretty nice.

Yep.

And the contract doesn't kick in until the end of this year.

So it's all is well that ends well.

I had a feeling.

last week that it was going to happen just based on the interviews with his teammates.

Yep.

Because up until that point, they'd all been like, you know, I hope we get it done.

I'm really hoping that Terry and the team can come to a decision because he's an important part of what we do.

They were doing all the like boring speak.

And then later on the week, they were talking like, yeah, it's going to happen.

He's going to be here.

So I had a feeling like it was going to get done.

Very happy that Terry's on board.

Extremely happy that I don't have to give Max my El Camino.

That El Camino belongs to Jaden.

Yes.

Piety, I have a question for you.

I'm happy for you.

Thank you.

If you remember when we talked about Terry McLaurin, I am under the assumption that almost all hold-ins will end up with the guy on their current team.

Jerry Hendrickson is one of them.

Micah Parsons, I believe, will be a cowboy.

I was saying all along in lockstep with you that Terry McLaurin would be a Washington commander.

There are some people in this room that were not.

There were definitely some people in this room that were not.

Would you like to call out any of those people at this juncture?

Hank did not believe.

Hank, that's you.

Hank, that's crazy.

Why are you looking at Max?

I mean, yeah, that's fact.

What do you want me to say?

Confirmed.

I did not believe.

Would you like to say I was wrong?

You were wrong?

No, you were right.

No, no, say I was wrong.

PFT was right.

And you can throw in me too if you want.

No.

Okay.

Why not?

Because you were wrong many times.

But I was right.

That's true.

But no, that is true.

No, I was wrong once.

At least three times you're like

Terry McLaurin's going to sign today.

No, I was wrong.

And you say it like that.

Lies.

Not a lie.

Lies.

Whoa, put the guns down.

I was wrong one time.

You always yell at me for pointing out.

Look who's pointing out.

Look who's pointing out.

You're lying at me, max you're lying you're you're pointing at me you said at least three times i reported on wednesday that was it was going to be done hand up i missed it that was just me missing it what about friday that's right on ability

friday i said it was going to happen and then max delente reported that it happened on friday

It didn't happen on Friday.

You reported that it happened on Friday.

I will hand up and say I was wrong one time.

And I wasn't wrong about Friday because then on Monday's show, I said that there was a secret extension.

That is fantasy land.

Retroactively.

Retroactively, I was right that the secret extension ended on Friday.

They didn't want to put that out on a Friday.

You want to beat your chest and get a Florio news cycle out.

This is fiction.

You want to get a news fiction out of your name.

It's calling fiction.

He's certainly calling fiction.

I'm going to have a confirmation from a Florio 2.

No, you put that out on a Friday, then it gets buried under the big weekend of week zero, and no one talks about it.

Drop that shit on Monday morning.

Everyone's talking about Week Zero in the NFL game, in the NFL world.

Secret Secret extension signed on Friday.

Hank loved week zero.

No.

Wait, so was Max wrong too?

Because I think he said.

Oh, no, I admitted it.

Friday, got got wrong.

You also said Terry McLaurin wasn't going to be a commander, right?

I don't think I ever said that.

I think I was just, I think I asked, I just was asking lots of questions.

Yeah, Max was really.

I did a lot of what if, what if, what if.

Which you have to do.

And what this should teach us more than anything about the NFL is that a trade request doesn't really mean shit anymore.

In the NBA, I feel like if you request a trade, you're like, okay, that guy's probably traded.

It's over.

They're not going to play another second for that team.

Correct.

In the NFL, that's just the new holdout.

Right.

Is requesting a trade.

Right.

So you had like Brandon Ayuk, he did it last year.

You've got Hendrickson did it this year.

McLaurin did it this year.

It happens all the time in the NFL.

And that's just the next lever that an agent can pull and say, okay, well, they didn't respond to the holdout.

Let's request a trade.

Are you worried at all?

You mentioned Brandon Ayuk.

Obviously, he got injured last year, but before his injury, a little bit of a slow start.

Are you worried at all about Terry McLaurin missing all of training camp?

I like to think that Terry is a consummate pro.

He's been nothing but a great player and a great teammate.

I like to think that they were just giving him all the assignments, the playbook, all that stuff.

He was doing mental reps.

He's going to be in shape.

The only thing that concerns me is he hasn't really played in full contact practices or in any preseason games.

So that is a little concerning to me.

I would have preferred if we had got this done a couple weeks ago so he could have had, you know, at least a handful of reps.

Yeah.

But I'm fine with Terry being, I'm much happier with Terry being on the team and missing a few practices.

That's okay with me.

And it's huge, obviously, for Jaden Dales because, you know, Terry McLaurin's an awesome wide receiver.

Debo Samuel is an awesome wide receiver.

And then it does fall off a little bit of a cliff.

Well, it kind of, it would suck if Terry wasn't around because we got Debo to compliment Terry.

Right.

We got Debo because Terry is the deep threat.

He caught a lot of deep balls, a lot of go routes, a lot of corner routes.

But having Debo underneath to get the yak yards, because Terry's not a great yak guy, but having Debo underneath, that should open up now that Terry's there.

Yeah, yeah.

And then shout out to Bengals, Trey Hendrickson.

That also got settled.

They needed that.

Yeah, so explain to me what happened with that because my understanding is they just gave him a raise this year.

Yeah.

Like a big raise.

Good for him.

So they agreed, agreed, reached agreement today on a $14 million raise for this year, boosting his 2025 salary to $30 million per source as Hendrickson still is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent after the season.

That feels like a win all around.

I think that's a, it's definitely a win for Trey Hendrickson.

Yeah, but it's also, well, you could say it's maybe a little luck because he wanted the long-term deal.

Yeah.

He wanted the guaranteed money.

The Bengals didn't want to do a long-term deal with a guy who's 30 years old.

So I think there's a win-win.

You get more money for this year.

You still get to be a free agent next year and maybe cash in one more time.

And the Bengals, if they weren't fully sold on a guy on the wrong side of 30, you don't have to worry about it in the coming year.

But with a pass rusher, I feel like this offseason, Trey Hendrickson, as long as he's healthy and doesn't have like a massive drop-off, he's going to get paid.

Yeah, right.

He's going to pay him a shitload of money.

So that's good for him and good for the Bengals for not having to commit a lot of money towards you.

You'd always just want cash in hand.

Like if the Bengals had said, hey, here's $100, you know, $90 million guaranteed for the next four years or whatever.

Right.

Like, yeah.

They're probably looking at Joe Burrow and just be like, I could have bought a a yacht instead.

Yeah.

So

that was a big news for all the holdings.

They're still waiting on Micah.

Kenny Pickett was traded again.

Three years, three times in four years.

He didn't get devalued, though.

No.

They got a fifth rounder for him, right?

Yeah.

So he's now on the Raiders because the Raiders do need a backup quarterback after AOC broke his

thumb hand.

Something, yeah.

It was something at the end of the arm.

Something at the end of the arm is not good with AOC.

Did Mark Davis walk into Tom Brady's office and just say, like, scratch his head and said, like, to no one in particular, man, we really need another quarterback on this roster.

Just hoping Tom would perk up.

Can we,

he like looked under the couch in Tom Brady's office.

He's like, anyone seen a quarterback?

I thought that we had another quarterback around here somewhere.

Can we find a quarter?

Like, can anyone throw this ball that I'm holding right now?

We're really, we really need one.

We just, man.

It'd be great if we could just have someone take this ball and throw it to one of our wide receivers 10 to 20 yards down the field.

Tom,

could you do it?

I think Mark Davis probably didn't stay on the phone too long this week because he's like, I might be getting an important phone call.

I can't tie up the line.

Yeah.

Just in case they try to reach me.

Yeah.

Tom Brady might be calling me.

Yeah.

Ready to go.

Like accidentally, texts him, hey, and then after like five minutes, be like, sorry, but

text

sent me to do that.

Sorry, my Apple Watch was messing with me.

Yeah.

You really think that Mike is going to play?

I think gun to my head, yes.

Yeah.

But I think that

there's a good chance that he doesn't.

Well, that's, you just talked out of both sides of your mouth.

No, I'm saying it's over 50%

that he plays.

So gun to your head, yes.

Gun to my head, yes.

But really good chance he doesn't.

Really good chance I die.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I think he's going to play.

I don't know if he'll play week one because I don't know if he'll be ready to go week one, but I think he will

deadlines, you know, force the actions here.

I guess the next phase in the holdout request trade is now Notes App.

Right?

That's another one that you can go to if you're really upset.

Yeah.

Dark Mode Notes app.

Dark Mode Notes app.

And Tommy DeVito got cut.

Sad.

Surprising.

I can't believe they did this to us.

I hope they like properly whacked him.

Sad Italian hands.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That would have been nice.

Let him put his shoes on.

Yeah.

They just brought him to an empty warehouse in

East Rutherford.

Yeah, I mean, it would be terrible if like they made him get in the car and then they said that he was going going to go to the hospital, but then they pulled off the side of the highway into a wooded area and then Silvio chased him down.

Yeah.

And then Christopher had to live with that guilt for the rest of his life.

That would be a bad way to do it.

And he packed his bags?

And he packed his bags.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But

listen, sad to see Tommy DeVito get cut.

We needed Jameis on the roster.

It's a fact.

So what are you going to do?

That's a fact.

What are you going to do?

Hey, we tried everything we could do.

We haven't seen the last of Tommy DeVito.

We did everything we could do.

It's, you know, it's Robert De Niero on the phone.

Yeah, there it is.

That scene.

And Goodfellas were like, hey, we tried everything we could do.

There's nothing about it.

There's nothing we could do.

There's nothing we could do about it.

We tried.

We really tried.

What do you mean?

Tommy DeVito's dead.

Will Tommy DeVito play a snap in the NFL this year?

Yes.

No.

No.

He'll be on a team, though.

He feels like a Saints quarterback.

Saints?

Spencer Rattler.

Yeah.

Named week one starter.

Is that one of the most depressing week one starter?

Like,

that, even Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones has a little cachet.

We're like, hey, he had a good year.

The New Orleans Saints announcing Spencer Rattler, I feel like they don't even want to announce anything.

They probably said, hey, do we really have to?

Can we just start week one and whoever plays plays?

And we don't have to actually, you know, put a graphic up here that they made where it's like, okay, he's starter.

It almost felt like a threat.

Yeah.

Hey, just a heads up.

I know a lot of you guys are going to be watching NFL on the

first Sunday.

Just so you know, Spencer Rattler might come across your screen at some point.

Yeah, hey, listen, NFL, if you're going to actually make us play week one,

we're going to play Spencer Rattler.

Just so you know.

So cancel the season.

Otherwise, it's rattler time.

They did wave Jake Haner.

Oh.

Probably a very sassy wave.

The zestiest.

The zestiest of waves.

Just remember, these guys have families.

They do.

Yeah.

They do.

Not Aaron Rodgers, but.

Oh, he's got a wife.

Oh, yeah.

Good for him.

He's got a wife.

All right.

Any Any other NFL news?

We're getting closer and closer.

We're nine days away as we're taping this.

Eight days as you're listening to this.

I'm excited.

I'm very excited.

I'm excited.

I'm excited.

Hank, question for you.

Yes.

Is Keegan Bradley really going to do this?

And by this, I mean name himself a Ryder Cup.

Are we not talking about the Travis Kelsey thing?

Oh, what happened with him?

He got engaged.

You're talking about Killer Trav?

Kill a Trav.

I think we should.

The fact that Taylor Swift had to tag Killa Trav is such a funny thing.

He has an AIM screen name as his Instagram.

Like, he definitely regrets that.

Oh, yeah.

Kill a Trav.

Every woman,

when they're a girl, they dream of good name

and tagging Killa Trav.

Kill a Trav.

If you're a dad and you were to say, okay,

at your daughter's birth, your daughter will one day get engaged to a guy whose Instagram handle is Killa Trav.

Kill a Trav.

That's probably the worst case scenario.

Yeah.

Right?

And this is no disrespect to Travis Kelsey.

No, we like Travis Kelsey.

You guys are PFT commenter and big cat.

Yes.

Okay, but Killer Trav.

Killer Trav goes hard.

Does it?

Yeah.

No father wants their daughter to marry

an engagement photo.

Kill a Travis.

That's just a fact.

That's the last name.

Killer Trav might go hard, but not when it's in like an English garden on your knee.

Killer Trav.

I don't like my Killer Travs getting engaged.

Killer Travs.

Killer Travs are guys that you can call up when they're 50 and be like, hey, Killer Trav, you want to go to Vegas?

He's like, yeah, you know I'm in.

Killer Trav sounds like the Chris Gaines version of Machine Gun Kelly.

Yeah.

So,

what was the caption?

It was lame.

Oh, I didn't like the caption.

The caption was.

You're a gym teacher and English teacher getting

better than that.

You guys are not.

You're a billionaire.

You guys aren't teachers.

Teachers.

Yeah.

You can't put on the teacher aesthetic.

No.

Teachers make $50,000 a year.

Your English teacher.

Wait, you're scrolling too fast.

Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married.

Really?

How about your billionaire song artist and your millionaire NFL star are getting married?

I do love love.

I love love.

I'm happy for them.

I'm happy for everybody who gets engaged.

And I'm going to say, are you ready for this?

I think they're officially a couple.

I think it's real.

Quote card.

Quote card.

Quote card.

I'm going to say it.

I've seen enough.

I'm going to say it.

I think Travis Kelsey, Killer Trav, and Taylor Swift are dating.

I have enough evidence now.

When Big Cat said he wanted to see P and V.

No, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait.

When he said he wanted to see P and V, he meant pretty little ring finger in very nice diamonds.

Yes, exactly.

I feel like you guys aren't even happy for them.

I love love, dude.

Are you saying I don't love love?

You guys sound like haters.

No, I'm very happy.

I just think.

You guys just went on a hater spree.

No, we didn't.

We just said it was funny to get engaged to Killer Trav.

Hank, did you think they went on a hater spree?

I love it.

Ah, fuck.

Yeah, you're out on an island.

I'm very happy for him.

I'm happy for him.

I'm excited to see what the bachelor party looks like.

Excited to see all the people that get that cast a lot of judgment on who's in the wedding party.

Yep.

I'm excited to see the wedding pictures when Jason Kelsey takes off his shirt.

I'm excited to see Harrison Bucker's toast at the wedding.

That's going to be great.

It's beautiful.

The bachelor party will probably be hot.

Jason Kelsey is fine to take off his shirt.

Temperature-wise.

I was saying at the wedding, they're going to go to a wedding.

That also probably will be warm.

And it's also fine to take off your shirt if you're warm.

Jason Kelsey is allowed to take off his shirt.

I agree.

Or if you're cold.

He did in Buffalo.

That was cool.

Jason Kelsey has to be like an all-time party starter on the dance floor.

You need one of those guys to get the shit going.

When everyone's like that weird moment in a wedding when, like, all right, everyone, please take the dance floor.

We're going to do the father-daughter dance, and then everyone's in the mother mother-son dance and then you stand there and they try to do shout and you're like i don't know jason kelcey comes in glass shatters party's going it's awesome

yeah that sounds sick that sounds like

can you say we're not haters anymore because that was we just no no that was good that was good that was a good little that was a good scenario my prediction i think that that jason kelcey is going to drink over 20 beers on the day of the wedding Oh, yeah.

Over 20.

I think he might drink over 20 before he even does the best man speech.

I hope so.

Yeah.

I wish we could.

We're not going to see it.

I would love to see the best man speech.

Oh, we should see.

Max, you should slam 20 beers and then give the best man's speech.

Oh, we will.

Yeah, yeah.

We'll have that happen on the show.

What do you mean?

We'll have to.

We should do the Jason Kelsey best man speech.

Oh, as if.

Yeah.

Okay.

We can do that.

Okay.

I like that.

Yeah.

I could do that for you.

You can cosplay as Jason Kelsey for us and drink some beer?

No way.

That does sound like my MO.

And then give a speech at a dinner.

That also sounds like something I would do.

Yep.

Okay, yeah.

No, no, no, no.

What are we going to do?

What are we going to do?

Zach, Sidney Sweeney?

What are we going to do?

I think Sidney Sweeney and Hank could make like a fantastic couple.

I think you and Sidney Sweeney.

That's exactly why.

You're not really interested in her.

She will die hearing that.

No, she's probably great.

It's just like there's levels to dating and levels to life in her level.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

You're way higher.

No, dude.

Your stock is higher than mine.

Yeah, Yeah, and your whole.

You're like a traditionally handsome guy, too.

So it's like

great together.

He's so too nice.

Zach, your whole like,

yeah, sex, who needs it?

You know, I don't care.

We're going to just video games.

Like, that's attractive to women.

I think Max can do a great best man speech.

What?

I was trying to pay the.

I would do your best man speech.

With Sidney Sweeney.

I thought he was doing it as Jason Kelsey.

No, no, your best man speech when you marry Sidney Sweeney.

I don't think she's into marriage.

Okay.

Hank, what about Rihanna?

Fair.

She's married with kids.

What about

Cardi B?

I don't want to complicate the Patriots.

I don't want to get in the way of my guy.

Oh, Stefan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, what about

Madison Beer taken?

Ah, yeah.

Shit.

I don't know any other

celebrities.

Anybody else know a woman?

sprina carpenter oh sprina carpenter yeah sprina carpenter

you love carpenters you pick jesus true we got chapel roan nah probably know your cat nah what

lizzo lizzo yes hanky oh okay all right good got a yes we got a yes power couple bobby altoff

i don't think that would move the needle enough is she still

where is she?

What is she?

Doing another podcast with Drake.

She's going back to the well.

Oh,

okay.

Hoctua girl?

Is she around?

She's somewhere.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Probably be a lot of fun.

Hoctua, yeah.

I remember that.

That was a biggest, like, that was the fastest

boom to bust.

Yeah.

It's good to know that we can still do the 15 minutes for real.

You know?

Yeah, we still.

We didn't have the 15 minutes for a while.

Like, it was like someone gets a little famous and they stick around.

We did the 15 minutes with Hawk Tua and then we got out.

Yep.

It's like a natural cycle now, where if you get into that 15 minutes, you end it 15 minutes because you do a shit coin.

Yeah, exactly.

Then it spits you out.

That's the natural circle of life.

So, yeah, with Travis and Taylor, very happy for the two of them.

I think that

call me a hater.

I don't know what her music's going to be like.

Now that she's happy.

Yeah, but nope.

Okay.

Her music's great when she's upset.

How am I going to navigate this next thing?

Why are you shaking your head?

Don't shake your head.

I'm just pre-disavowing what you're about to say.

Stop getting held hostage by the fucking Swifts.

Yeah, you're

being a pussy right now, Max.

I'm saying

as a fan of her.

Someone has to be Team Kelsey or something.

I want love.

I love love.

I want them to be happily married forever.

A divorce album would rock.

God, that was such a bad thing to say.

Why?

No, I want them to say, I don't want them to get divorced.

I do not want.

I think Swifties would agree with that.

Yeah, I do not want them to get divorced.

I'm saying if it happened, there would be incredible music, right?

Don't want it to happen.

You don't

know.

Her music currently fucking love her music, dude.

Like, you're like, you could say that if you love her heartbreak music.

Well, maybe I don't, maybe I don't think her heartbreak music is enough heartbreak.

So I'm

like, you say that as a fan.

Well, again,

I'm just saying she's going to put out an album where she's happy, and then that better be a fucking banger of an album.

Because if it's not, then the fans are going to be like, I don't know.

That's her fastball.

Yep.

I love listening to music when I'm in a good mood.

Probably great making music when you're in a good mood, too.

I think that

history has shown that some of the best art comes out of people who are in really dark places.

T Swift different.

Maybe.

Do you think that he's not too familiar with her music as well?

Oh, what are you doing, Max?

Is he going to sign a prenup?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

What about last names?

Travis Swift.

Her last name.

Travis Swift.

What if Travis takes her last name?

Killer Swift would be funny.

Travis Swift.

Yeah.

Travis Swift.

Travis Swift.

Yeah, I'm happy for them.

Love is love.

It's great.

Congratulations to them.

To many, many years of happy marriage.

Fair?

Salud.

Salute.

Don't clip

any of what we just talked about.

Oh,

it'll be all of it.

It might not be clipped by us, but it'll be clipped.

And you know it.

Who are you right now, Max?

I don't know.

You're supposed to be one of our guys.

I've been watching all the breakdowns of the Easter eggs from the podcast that you did.

Yeah.

I'm kind of obsessed with the Easter eggs now.

You do?

Just how brain-dead some of the people are that are just trying to like connect dots that are on the other side of the planet to each other because they're like, oh, I figured this thing out.

My own Easter egg, she keeps saying the word the number 47

hats 47 brand hats.

Right now, our current president is number 47.

Our current president is also known as what

the man,

the commander in chief, chief, commander in chief, Super Bowl.

Think about it.

Donald Trump is going to officiate their wedding?

Yes.

Imagine the internet would blow up.

Root for that.

Donald Trump officiates their wedding.

Shador Sanders is the ring bearer.

Who else?

Who else can we throw in there?

The Rizzler.

The Rizzler is the best man.

This is pretty.

That checks all the boxes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Usher Jared from Subway.

Like that.

He's going to be out of jail soon.

Mm-hmm.

Which is kind of crazy.

DJ?

We won't talk about that enough.

Lead singer of the wedding band, Mincy.

Oh.

Ghislaine Maxwell.

Yeah.

Ghislaine.

Okay.

Should we do our Hot Sea Cool Throne?

Because I think then that's when you want to talk about Ryder Cup, Keegan.

Sure.

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My hot seat is Burning Man attendees.

Oh.

Burning Man Music Festival in the desert.

There's been 50 mile-an-hour winds in the middle of the desert, flash flood, storm warnings.

There's like a helicopter aerial view.

It looked like traffic was infinity miles long.

Infinity.

Absolute chaos.

I don't know.

And then, I don't know if you guys saw this.

The orgy tent?

Oh, okay.

I'm trying to get the exact word for it.

What's the orgy tent?

It was a setup at Burning Man.

And there was orgies?

The wind knocked it down.

You can't have an orgy in the wind?

The wind knocked down the orgy tent.

You can still have the orgy.

I guess, but in the desert and the wind.

You got to be able to play the elements.

Can't you just have the orgy underneath the tent?

Well, no, there is no tent.

Yeah, but it's just having an orgy underneath the blankets, right?

But this would just be out in the wild.

But there'd be blankets, the tent.

Burning Man, I feel like I never hear anything except for long traffic.

Orgy Dome, sorry.

Oh, Orgy Dome.

No, that's totally different.

Yeah, yeah.

The Orgy Dome is a totally different thing.

You can't lose the Orgy Dome.

Some would say that that a dome is a big part of an Orgy.

Toughest place to play.

Yeah.

Is the Orgy Dome?

Imagine the stadium pulse when you walk into the Orgy Dome.

Is he like a four-inch cock?

Is the Orgy tent?

Is that just UNLV's when he, when the quarterback gets injured?

Yeah.

That's the Orgy tent?

Yes.

Yeah, the Orgy Dome would be very...

I would be very worried walking in the Orgy Dome.

Yeah, there's people out there, no service in the middle of storms, no Orgy Dome to even get to if you make it there.

And that's probably a lot of, that's a big draw.

Definitely.

It's the Orgy Dome.

Yeah, Yeah, I mean, you buy, when you buy your Burning Man tickets, you buy a day past the Orgy Dome.

Yeah.

It's like going to Disney World and Space Mountains closed.

Sorry.

Okay.

Good hot seat.

And then my cool throne is Rajan Rondo.

Oh.

So this, this source, I mean, I have no choice but to take it as just a complete fact.

Frankie Vision.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Tweeted, and obviously this makes it even more of a fact.

The tweet was, top five NBA point guard of all time, Rajan Rondo playing flag football, making it look easy.

He is the number one ranked flag football quarterback in the country right now.

And then all the like Legion Hoops, all the other basketball aggregators took that tweet from Frankie Vision.

No idea what his flag football ranking history is, but ran it as like a fact.

So there's all the basketball aggregators being like Rajin Rondo is currently the number one ranked flag football quarterback in the nation right now.

Oh, so I would like to see those rankings.

I'm interested.

I'm not saying he's wrong, but I want to see the math that goes into it.

Yeah.

I would also like to see those rankings.

But yeah, shout out to Rajan Rondo.

He might be the number one flag football player in the world.

Future Olympian.

Future Olympian Rajahn Rondo.

Yeah, it's just funny.

It was seeing, I saw it, you know, I follow the

basketball aggregators and they were all reporting it.

I'm like, is he really ranked that high?

And it was just Frankie Vision.

Yeah.

He's just dropping dimes.

I like that.

He was dropping.

He looked like he was like playing with kids.

But was he dropping dimes?

Yes.

Oh yeah.

All right.

PFT, your hot seat culture on my hot seat is Carlos Alcaraz because the U.S.

Open is right now.

And Carlos Alcaraz debuted a new haircut before the tournament.

Have you seen his hair?

Yeah.

It's like completely shaved bald.

Yeah.

He said, he blamed his brother.

He said, my brother misunderstood with the machine.

He cut it and the only way to fix it is to shave it off.

To be honest, it's not that good.

It's not that bad, bad, I guess.

I actually, I can understand this.

This has happened to me before.

Yeah, the brother went no-guard by accident or went really short.

And

you start it, and then you're like, well, my only way out of this is to cut all my hair.

Yep.

So I actually think it makes him look faster.

It does.

It makes him look like he might have had a mental breakdown.

Because I think that's kind of like a sign, like you just randomly shave your head out of your hair.

Yep, wear.

Yep.

But, oh.

Good for him.

For sweating.

Hank, you did the, I mean, you didn't do it by accident, but this was your haircut.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you and you liked it.

I've, yeah, I've kept my hair short since then.

Yeah.

He also has like, I mean, he's a muscular pro-tennis player who's good looking.

I think it's okay.

Yeah, he'll be fine.

Yeah.

He'll be fine.

Probably could afford a bar.

When I did it, I just looked way fatter.

I'd look bad.

Oh, it's the worst.

The worst.

I like the fact that he has his brother cut his hair.

Yeah.

Good friend.

That's cool.

My cool throne is baseball staying relevant.

Okay.

So, like, two minutes after the Travis and Taylor news drop, baseball announced its schedule for next year, which I love.

Also, John Rothstein tweeted out, I think, like a Drake out-of-conference game.

He has that one loaded.

John Rothstein has an obscure basketball scheduling fact ready to drop at any moment, just in case something big happens in national news.

Always, always.

Ready to go.

So yeah,

they announced what the schedule was, and everybody was like, how could you put this out right now?

Tell you what, if you are, and I'm not saying that we are, but if you are an anti-Taylor Swift person,

you should love baseball because you're busy commenting like, who cares when other people post about it?

Baseball is the one sport that does not care whatsoever.

Yeah, they actually almost intentionally try to find where they can like sneak it in.

Yeah, so baseball might be the sport for you.

Yeah.

Ooh, I'm looking right now.

Nats come

end of March.

That kind of stinks.

Yeah.

And then Phillies come in April.

That kind of stinks.

Not really summer weather.

Okay, I'm looking at the schedule.

We got, we'll have to get in front of the schedule, see if we can get some friends to come through, right?

Yeah, there's some good.

I mean, this is just great.

It's crazy.

The schedule is just crazy.

I don't think we talked about it.

MLB is doing a rivalry week next year.

Yeah.

And some of them make zero sense.

Okay, so Pirates and Phillies.

I guess Pennsylvania.

This is all Braves, Red Sox.

So that's the former.

They used to be the Boston Braves.

Okay, yeah.

What else?

Guardians, Reds?

Rockies and Diamondbacks.

Why are the

Padres and Mariners?

Some of these are.

Ohio.

Yeah, but Padres and Mariners.

That one's weird, right?

Yeah.

There's a name for

the Padres vs.

Mariners.

I'll look it up.

Okay.

Because I would think Padres Dodgers would make more sense just out of recent history.

We got the Angels at the Dodgers.

Yeah, a lot of people are just saying they should call this Geography Week.

Yeah.

Not rivalry.

We got the Astros at the Texas Rangers.

That's...

What's the name?

It's the Eddie Vetter Cup.

Oh, okay, that makes sense.

The competition is named after Pearl Jam frontman, rock and roll legend, Eddie Vetter, who lived in both cities during his life and personally designed the trophy, which features a guitar.

What a power move.

The rivalry was formalized in March 2025.

That's pretty cool.

Wait, oh, it's very new.

They're really leaning into this Eddie Vetter Cup thing.

Yeah.

Like Tigers, Blue Jays?

Canada.

Yeah, close enough.

But like, that's just because they're close doesn't mean they're right.

Like, what does that mean?

Yeah.

Yeah, there's like, there's like five or six real rivalries here, and the rest are just like, yeah, I guess they're close.

Like, yeah, Yankees, Mets,

Cubs, White Sox.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is weird.

Okay, Rivalry Week.

Good job, MLB.

You got it.

You got it.

I guess Rays versus Marlins, that might happen in nature sometimes.

Yeah.

Giants, A's was a rivalry, but now Sacramento.

Yeah.

So that's kind of weird.

Okay, so the MLB schedules out.

All right.

Rockies and Diamondbacks, I think, because they both joined baseball at the same time.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Good job, Hillb.

Good job.

All right.

My My hot seat is PFT, your Washington Commanders.

Oh, no.

What happened?

They released the price of beer at every NFL stadium, and the Washington Commanders are number one in the NFL.

$16.49.

Got to pay Terry.

That's insane.

That's where that money's going.

That's an insane $16 for a beer.

I saw that graphic.

It's a sick stadium experience.

Where do they pull that from?

Are you going to let that just go?

No, it's a bad stadium.

You're not going to catch me defending the name.

You're not gonna catch me defending the stadium experience you're not gonna catch me defending the beer prices the beer prices yeah i will not defend those uh bengals are cheapest uh six dollars eighty cents it's good for the bengals so this is from who

the internet okay

it works for me and my cool throne is keeking bradley can we talk about keegan bradley he's on the hot seat he's on he's got the hottest seat going well no he personally is the cool throne because he's going to get to play and captain you think he's going to uh would be the first time since 1963

when Arnold Palmer did it.

Do you think he's going to?

It sucks for him because he, wait, has he never played in a Ryder Cup?

He has played in the Ryder Cup.

He played

I'm a Dino.

Okay, so he, so, but he obviously last, whatever it was, two years ago was snubbed.

Yep.

He's playing good enough to make the team, but he's also now the captain.

Pick yourself.

Do it.

I want him to so bad.

Do it.

I hope he does.

I hope he doesn't.

You know, people are saying the captain's already a lot lot of responsibility.

It's going to be too much of a distraction.

And it's like, you know, one of those things where

the nice thing, the easy way out

is to just be the captain.

But he wants to play and he's playing well.

Yeah.

I actually think it's a good move.

And it's like,

when he's in 20 years, when he's looking back,

he's going to wish he played probably.

Yeah.

Think about it this way.

From a captain's perspective, your job, part of your job is to make your players comfortable, right?

If he picks himself, the entire focus is on him.

Nobody else has any pressure.

It's all about what he does, which if he's the kind of guy that can handle that pressure, that's great.

And it's also good for everybody else that's on the team.

I like it.

You could be an all-time legend.

If you win as the playing captain, you're an all-time legend.

All-time.

If you lose as a playing captain, I like it.

Just go all in.

It's just, it's the most, it's the biggest gamble you could have because if he doesn't pick himself and he's not playing, like, oh, well, he tried to pick the best team.

What are you going to do?

It's like everyone will kind of forget that he was the captain.

This is push.

This is your legacy, Keegan.

Your legacy is, you can make your legacy.

It might be better than winning a major.

Yes, if he wins as a playing captain, playing captain might be better than winning a major.

Yep.

That's a hot take, but I, I, I think I, I think I, I think I could see, see that being the truth.

Yep.

Because it hasn't happened since 1963.

All right, Zach, finish us off.

My hot seat, I have two quick hot seats if that's okay today.

My hot seat is the first one is men and committee relationships because I feel like if they're in that window of proposals and they're Swifty fans across the nation, there might be a lot of strong-arming proposals coming up.

Yeah, or like, yeah, proposing right after this is Taylor Swift is kind of taking everyone's shot.

Everyone is going to want to go out and find a podcast host to Mary.

That's what we're about to see.

And another quick one is Nadeshot's doing a Hall-in-One challenge today.

I don't think he's going to get it.

I've got him in the hot seat because I don't think they're going to hit the Hall-in-One.

Oh, that's your guy.

Shout out to Nadeshot.

They've got like 45 minutes left to hit it.

Oh, I want him to hit it, but it's timed.

Yeah, eight hours.

Where are they at?

They haven't hit it yet, and I believe it's like they got like 40 to 45 minutes left.

Do we know what course they're on?

I do not know the specific course.

It's in California.

Okay.

He can do it.

He can do it.

I think they can hit it.

It's just the time is taken away.

Yeah.

The seats get hit.

That's how time works.

So many ticks.

Yeah.

Ticks ticks right in your face okay and uh a quick cool cool throne is uh teddy bridgewater uh kyle trask being uh released has bumped teddy bridgewater to qb2 for the buccaneers nice

that's not a bad qb2 i agree yeah teddy bridgewater knows what he's doing love teddy

that kyle trask uh i think stephen chee at one point said kyle trash was the future well didn't they ask kyle trask for input on who the next offensive coordinator was going to be for for the bucks yes that's right that's right wasn't that reporting from steph from Stephen Che that Brady, after he retired, you're like, well, we're going to consult with Kyle Trask on what to bring in next.

Right.

Didn't really work out.

All right, good hot seat, cool.

Would you rather have your daughter marry a Travis or a Kyle?

That's a brute.

Right.

Travis?

Really?

I think Travis is probably last.

No disrespect to Travis Kelsey.

I think Travis.

Kyle's are a squirrely bunch.

There's multiple cool Travises.

There's a lot of cool Kyles.

Who are some other cool Travises?

Travis Pestrana.

Oh, yeah.

Travis Hunter.

Travis Bravana.

Travis Barker.

But also, like, Travis Pestrana, Travis Barker, like kind of extreme dudes.

Yeah, but there's some cool Kyles.

Bauer,

Hendrix.

Sloater.

Oh, Godwin.

Chris Kyle.

Lowry.

Travis's are significantly cooler than Kyle's.

Yeah, I think so.

You're just such just simping hard.

I mean, we're just...

Hey, bro, hey, they're not going to fuck you.

Okay?

Travis and Taylor are spoken for.

I just like the Kelseys.

You should rename the booth the Orgy 10.

Orgy Dome.

Yeah.

Look at you guys.

All right.

Let's get to our Mount Rushmore.

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Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

We are doing the Mount Rushmore

of Things Girls Don't Like About Guys.

The updated standings are myself and Zach.

I think we have officially won, so we have 51 points.

Maximes are at 44.

PFT and Hank are at 43.

So a duel is very much still on the table.

It very much is.

Very much on the table.

Very much.

Max came in before we just started recording this, and he shook my hand and said, good luck.

And you don't mean that.

You don't mean good luck.

I didn't know that we were anti-respect around here.

We do not mean good luck.

I don't know that we were.

We're not anti-lying.

Yeah, we're truth.

Good luck is like truth like telling what you do before you go in before you go into competition with someone.

No, but you don't mean it.

That's a fake sportsmanship.

All right.

I thought I was being respectful.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

I'm sorry for trying to show you respect.

So you're not sorry?

I'm sorry for trying to show you respect.

No, you're not.

This is an apology?

I genuinely apologize for trying to show you respect.

It's a fake sorry.

And if I were to accept it, that would be a fake acceptance.

I don't know what else you want me to say.

I just.

Hand up.

Hand up.

Well, you can accept it.

You just don't say it back.

Yeah, don't say it back.

Okay,

I accept the fact that you're sorry

for lying about wishing me good.

Thank you for accepting my apology.

Okay.

That felt good.

You're not welcome.

The duel is imminent.

All right.

So

who's picking first here?

We're picking first.

All right, and then Zach and I and then PFT and Hank.

Let's have some fun, boys.

This one, this is a good topic.

Yeah, this is a good one.

Mount Rushmore, things things girls hate about guys.

This is a good one.

It's a strong topic.

Not a lot to work with here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I have some honorable mentions.

Yeah, we're going to get the honorable mentions are just going to get personal.

Well, so I texted my wife because Zach and I have won, so it's like I could seek outside help.

And Zach was there when I was getting the barrage of text back, and I was just getting obliterated this morning.

Yeah, hand up.

I asked a few women this morning, and they all seemed very much directed at me.

Yeah.

Listen, I'll do an honorable mention right now to just get us going.

One of the honorable mentions that I had on the list was not going to physical therapy for their partially torn cap and saying they'll be fine.

That's pretty much it.

That one feels very direct.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

Very specific.

I was like, shit, I haven't gone to physical therapy yet.

And I do complain about it

when it hurts.

Okay.

You guys are up.

Go for it.

We're up.

Yep.

Wording.

Wording is good.

Yeah.

We're going to go with the classic, forgetting to leave the toilet seat down.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

After we put our whole list together, we had that on there as the first pick, and it looks so benign compared to everything else.

Yeah.

I never really understood that one.

How much harder is it to just put the seat down than it is to lift the seat up?

I agreed, but that doesn't

mean that it's not a fight.

I know, it's just the same thing.

It's just a flick of the rope.

Listen, listen.

You know what?

Some of these things that we're going to say,

we're not going to necessarily

agree with, but that's not the rush more.

We're not sorry for it.

Yeah.

Listen, why don't you just...

I'm sick of women not leaving the seat up for me.

Yeah, that's true.

Right?

Let's flip it.

Let's flip the narrative.

Zach, you want to go with number two off the rip?

Because, I mean, that one is, I think we all have this complaint.

I think she's a great pig.

All right.

Terrible at looking for stuff.

I get it all the time, whether it be in the fridge, whether you lose something.

Just like, open your fucking eyes.

Yep.

I get that.

That's an awful lot.

I will stand in front of the fridge and just be like, where is the ketchup?

And you're like, open your fucking eyes right in front of you.

When they walk over and they're like, it's right here.

And they laugh at you.

Yeah.

And they find it in a half a second.

Yeah.

Hey, do you know where my wallet is?

I don't know.

You never leave it in the same place any single day.

yeah i have like 17 places i leave my wallet and keys and it varies every day my girlfriend just started buying me hair tags because i because i just i lose everything girls are really good at putting stuff back at the exact same spot every single time did i ever tell you when i broke my when i broke my foot i thought i lost my wallet and it was directly underneath of my nights like as easy like the first spot that you should look is where it was and i found it like two months later yeah i love that your girlfriend has you microchipped yeah oh yeah oh yeah The remote is a big one for me, too.

I lose the remote all the time, and it's always on my side of the bed.

Like, it's always like you had it last, and then you lost it.

And then I'm like, where is it?

You must have taken it.

Oh, okay.

PFT and Hank.

Hank?

Not being able to dunk.

Your ball.

Oh.

I got the ball.

Yeah.

Okay, which one do you want to go with?

I like you here.

Not being able to dunk.

I think it would be free.

How about that one?

That would be a great one.

That's a great pick.

I'm not seeing that.

I trust you.

Okay.

All right.

First pick.

We're going to throw a fastball right there.

Snoring.

Okay.

Yep.

That's a good one.

Loud snores.

That's a good pick.

Good pick.

Yep.

I get the combo snoring and also moving too much in my sleep.

Snoring, farting in your sleep.

Jiggly leg.

Okay.

I think the one at the top of the list is

a second-round steal.

At the very top of the list?

Yeah.

Our sports obsessions.

Yeah.

Whether it be your fantasy team, whether it be your football team, your college team,

sometimes they just don't understand why we dedicate every free second of our lives to something that is so utterly inconsequential to them.

We had it phrased a little different, but we had that.

It's basically the sports bleeding into real life.

Like your team losing and having it affect your actual emotions in life.

And explaining, like,

you know, our job is sports adjacent, and it's like, oh, the offseason, and it's like, well, you're

there's more sports on.

Like, well, no, I'm like, oh, it's like, you know, it's quieter during the

after football season.

It's like, well, there's still, yeah, NHL playoffs, NBA playoffs.

It's like, there's always sports on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Zach, we're up.

I actually added one, Zach, that I think is a good one that the girls do not like about guys.

I'll just rip it.

Not going to the doctor, just simply thinking that you can solve everything by WebMD.

There's a reason why women live significantly longer than men, and it's pretty much all traced back to not going to the doctor.

Yeah, when you go on, when you have something, you're not sure what it is, you log on to WebMD, and then, guys, we look it up until we reach a point on the internet where it says you might have cancer, and we just close WebMD, and then we just get upset because we think maybe there's a chance deep down that we might have cancer.

Right.

And that is our medical treatment.

Yeah, I remember any malady.

I remember there was a couple years ago.

My wife, I asked her something like, oh what's the plan this afternoon like should i pick up the kids and she's like oh i have a uh a doctor's appointment i was like oh my god is everything all right she's like yeah we go to the doctor once a year i was like what i'm getting a checkup really

that's i did that last decade i'm good yeah the doctor for us is it's not even the olympics because i wouldn't say i go every four years but it's uh it's it's

I finally got a physical last year for the first time in like 15 years.

So that felt good.

I just had an idea.

There is like a sense of like accomplishment, though, when you come back and you feel like you deserve like a gold star.

And it's like, I got a physical today.

That accomplished.

I'm a good boy.

That lasts until you get the results of your test back.

And then you're like, oh, fuck.

What if they made a doctor for men?

Like a bar.

Yeah.

And they got TVs.

Yeah, it'd be good.

Sport clips.

But for doctors.

You don't even know you're at the doctor.

You just go to the bar and it's a doctor bartender and they ask you some questions and you just answer it.

Well, they have to get you drunk before they ask you all the questions so that you answer them honestly.

Yeah.

How many drinks do you have a week?

I remember when I went to how many drinks did you just have?

Yeah.

One.

One.

I remember I went to the my physical like a year ago and uh

I don't want to say that my wife was mad that I was had a clean bill of health, but she thought it was a little bit of bullshit that I was like, they're like, yeah, nothing's wrong with you.

Like no cholesterol problem.

They're like, she's like, this is kind of bullshit.

You don't take care of yourself at all and you're fine.

Okay.

You guys are up.

Our next pick is not texting back or forgetting to text back.

Yep.

That's a great one.

Good one.

Good pick memes.

So

I was going to text my lady friend.

The last text I sent,

I forgot to answer.

Do you send her memes?

No.

No.

No memes.

Yeah, no, that's a good answer.

That's a good pick.

Some girls, they...

Not all of them, but there's like texting is like a hobby of theirs where like guys, it's like a means to an end.

Yeah.

Like they love to text.

They love to text their friends, conversations like, you know, back and forth all day where it's like, guys just want question answer.

And then sometimes, yeah, I'm a big mental mental responder, not physical responder.

And so when they're like, why haven't you text me back?

I'm like, I did in my head.

I just didn't type it out and stuff.

Big time.

Big time.

And this is just another generic one, not necessarily personal to myself, following random girls on Instagram.

Oh, that's part of the job.

Yeah.

We got to do it.

We got to do it, guys.

That's part of the job.

We got to know what's going on.

Okay,

Zach,

what should we do here?

What do you think about seven?

Yeah, let's rip it.

All right, we would like to take starting wars.

Starting every war.

Every war

that's ever happened

at the hands of a man starting it.

It's guilty as charged, guys.

He started every war.

no, that's over a girl.

That's a guy starting over.

She started it, she did.

She fighting she wasn't around, that wouldn't have happened.

Are you thinking so?

You're saying Cleopatra can't even exist?

Yeah, if she didn't exist, the war wouldn't have happened.

What about Helen of Troy?

Yeah,

face that could launch a thousand ships.

We started the majority, if not all, of the wars.

We still don't know who wrote that Zimmerman telegram.

True, true.

So, our pick is starting every war ever.

That's a good pick.

Yeah.

Hand up.

Guys like to fight.

What are you going to do?

Guys like to have border disputes.

Guys going to battle.

Yeah, guys going to battle.

Just doing things.

Quests.

Quests.

Quests with your boys.

All right.

You guys have your last two.

All right.

Any thoughts, Hank?

The one at the bottom made me laugh pretty hard.

Okay.

And then whatever else you think.

Okay, I'm going to go with losing presidential elections to us.

Yeah.

Women hate that, especially if they've been promised the office for the last 10 years.

Oh, and two.

Yeah.

And like, maybe their husband was president.

And they're like, it's finally my turn.

And then they work their entire life.

And then some guy that does not have any background in being president comes in and then beats them.

It's very embarrassing.

They hate that shit.

That's fair.

I now, I do think 2-2 is a good choice, too.

Okay, when we get too drunk.

okay, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah,

most be drunk, most fight, yeah, yeah, but they're also fun when you're drunk.

Well, you're a good time, your bros think that.

Yeah, your bros.

They do a time.

Women hate it when you get too drunk.

Yeah.

Let alone get too drunk when they're not with the bros.

Yeah.

You come home too drunk.

How?

Why?

Mm-hmm.

Zach, you want to rip, what do you think?

15 maybe

or 11?

I think 15.

I like 15.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

This one might be a little personal, but

doing stupid competitions that get them injured.

That may be a purpose.

But it's also kind of, because I think a lot of guys are in this situation where maybe stupid competitions also are like intramural sports when you're 35.

Like, why are you still doing this?

Why are you getting injured playing basketball or softball?

Like, this is so stupid.

Girls don't like it.

Like, this should not be a part of your life.

Yeah, you should.

You're electing to do this.

You're electing to make my life more inconvenient because you can't drive.

You shouldn't be out for six to eight months.

Yeah.

Because you wanted to relive the glory days.

My brother just recently blew out his hamstring playing pickup soccer.

Yeah.

He's like, I don't know how I'm going to go to work this week.

Yeah.

It's like, this is really stupid.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't be doing that.

Yeah, I got a friend that just tours Achilles playing pickup basketball.

He's got three kids.

Yeah.

And now his wife is like, what did you do to me for the next year?

Yeah, this is very selfish.

Very selfish.

this has been this has been a nice camaraderie mountain rushmore we've had here this has been good london all right last pick uh there's a lot there's a lot of good picks still out on the board

out on the board um we're just gonna go with you know another classic ripping farts ripping too many farts is always gonna be an issue okay yeah no it is because we just let it go guys allowed to fart

shitting with the door open what do you think generally like the

there's a there's like a 1-1

pick that's still on the board right now.

Like how long do you think guys usually wait to start ripping farts in a relationship publicly?

A date?

Yeah.

It didn't take too long for myself to be honest.

Yeah.

What's the 1-1 that got left?

Guys are slobs.

Slobs, yeah.

Yeah, just overall messiness.

I was going to say there's a 1-1 that we actually we proved to be true by doing this Mount Rushmore and never bringing it up.

Just guys guys not being able to talk about their emotions.

Yeah.

Which we just proved we can't do.

Yep.

Yeah.

Because I know that girls do hate that.

And rightfully so.

Man splanding was another one.

Yeah, we have a lot of fun.

Yeah, that was the first big one.

Have you ever been in a car that's going 90 miles an hour?

Yeah.

That's how fast I can throw a ball.

Yeah.

We were debating between man splitting farts and being messy for our last pick, but

I just wanted to talk about ripping farts.

We had just our hairy balls.

Yep.

Women don't.

Our balls are just gross.

God bless women for dealing with their bodies because the male form is, I don't even think women find it attractive.

No.

That part of the body.

Unless they like a furball.

Needy when sick.

Yeah.

I think that's everyone.

I'm a bitch when I'm sick.

Yeah, I think everyone's needy when sick.

PFT, the one, the last one.

The last one?

We said,

when we say a medical condition that we have is worse than childbirth.

Yep.

Yep.

That's the one.

Yep.

The kidney stone thing.

Yep.

Going to Hooters.

Okay.

That was Zach's pick.

Road rage.

Yeah.

Women don't get that.

Road rage.

They don't get that.

You got to fucking defend your lane.

I have a personal volume.

I don't understand.

That's a great point.

Like, bro, we got to defend this.

You got to defend your house.

Women hate our friends.

Yeah.

A lot of times.

Yep.

Our idiot friends.

Why are you hanging out with that guy?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Getting into some niche subject and thinking they're experts.

That's manslaining.

Man slain.

Just our hobbies.

This is kind of related to our last pick of the doing stupid competitions, but just thinking they're like so close to being professional athletes.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Our parlays.

Yeah.

Our parlays is good.

Good one.

A personal one for me, big,

pissing on the side of the road.

Yeah.

If I have to piss, I'm going to.

It's jealous.

I think it is jealousy, but it's like the biggest, it's the biggest fight for me every time because I always have to piss.

And I'm like, I can just go right here.

It's going to be fine.

Yeah, how short the lines are for our bathrooms.

Yep.

Yeah.

In line with pissing.

Yep.

Our fashion choices.

I've never had a complaint.

Yeah.

My wife said.

Bad pick.

My wife said finding one outfit they like and then wearing the same thing over and over.

Also watching 100 documentaries on the same same topic.

Guilty as chill.

Yeah.

Definitely.

How fast it takes us to get ready.

Yeah.

Like, I'm going to put on a shirt and then shorts, and then you still have to be in the bathroom doing makeup for you.

Yeah, I think that's more of the opposite.

Well, no, it's

jealous.

They're jealous of like the fact that we can get ready and I get ready in 4.30.

No, we're leaving at 10.30.

I'm going to get up at 10.10.

Yeah.

Like, what?

I can shower and get changed in, I would say, four and a half minutes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's, it's, yeah, that's a, that's a problem.

All right, do you guys want my very specific ones that I was given?

Um,

so I already said the not going to physical therapy for their partially torn calf and saying they'll be fine, these are all for my wife.

Uh,

arguing over the correct doneness of a steak, yep, they do hate that, they don't care.

Uh, not hanging up wet towels, that could be PFT, that could be in PFT some minute, too.

Yeah, not not hanging up wet towels, not appreciating Taylor Swift.

Uh,

not appreciating

again, these are very

good one.

She just roasted me for

skating Taylor Swift is very funny.

Thinking they should own and operate an assault rifle.

That's a conversation that's been going on in my house for a little bit now.

It's not going well.

What is this?

Tasers are here, by the way.

Yeah.

We all got tasers.

My wife just keeps going.

You have three little children.

We're not getting a fucking gun in the house.

I'm like, but we got to protect this little girl.

This is a great vibes, Mountain Rushmore.

This was the least contentious Mountain Rushmore we've ever had.

And then the last one was pretending they don't hear their children in the middle of the night.

Yeah.

I do.

Yeah.

Sweaty.

I do that with the dog.

Like the dog wakes up early and someone's got to go take the dog out.

I didn't hear it.

They hate our general sweatiness.

Yeah.

They don't get it.

Yeah.

Caring more about dogs and people.

Yeah.

Thong flip-flops.

Ooh.

That's a good one.

Oh, when dudes wear them?

Yeah.

Using the good shampoo?

When we ask them for feet picks?

Women hate that for some reason.

What was the color daddy thing that Tommy smokes about what he wore?

Khakis?

Khakis.

Khakis.

I think women don't love it, and this is obviously for consensual relationships.

I don't think women love it when you honk their boobs.

But I do.

I just, that's more of a vibe pick.

I think that wasn't sent to me.

That just.

Oh, we missed an easy one, too.

Coming super fast.

Yeah, sure.

They kind of like that, though.

Yeah, that's

shows how masculine.

So hot.

Not knowing how to buy groceries.

That was a specific one for me because I do struggle with that.

Oh, bringing home fruit or vegetables that are clearly not ripe.

Yeah.

Or just not reading any labels and just buying the wrong thing.

Yeah.

This avocado won't be ripe for another 14 days.

Oh, did I accidentally buy soy milk?

My bad.

I didn't read it.

I just grabbed milk.

Any others?

When we eat all the ice cream and then put it back in the freezer and there's just a tiny bit of ice cream left that's not really a serving size.

Why did you save this?

Pissing in everything, yeah.

Pissing in the sink.

Pissing in the sink is a good one, yeah.

Yeah, leaving your shoes everywhere.

Oh, I leave my shoes everywhere.

I get smoked for that.

Because I have like piles of shoes in like multiple spots in my house.

Having too many hats.

Way too many hats.

Oh, man, that's a good one.

I have so many hats.

Finishing a roll of toilet paper and not replacing it.

Oh, yeah.

Why would you?

Yeah.

Coming back from a trip and just leaving all of your bags right in front of the door.

Yep.

Also, coming back from a trip.

Coming back from like a trip with your boys and having no update on any of their lives.

I get that a lot because I just don't, like, you know, when you're on a trip with your boys, you're not going to be like, girls go on a trip and they and they talk about their feelings and how their life's going and how work's going.

Guys go on a trip.

I could spend four days with my friends and never ask a question about their children or work.

One time I was on a trip when I was, I want to say 27, 28.

I get back from the trip and my girl was like,

has so-and-so had their baby yet?

And I said, I don't know.

Yeah.

And that was a bad conversation.

That also just means that you...

You only ask those questions to people you don't really like.

Right.

Like if it's like, I don't know what to say here, let me just

fill in this generic question.

I've been doing a little hack that people can take.

at the end of trips, like the last day, I literally sit down with all my friends.

I'm like, give me two facts.

I'm just like, give me two things that I can just say like when she said, hey, how's this guy doing?

I'm like, yeah, this, this, and this.

And it looks great.

Just give me those quick facts.

It's a good icebreaker, too.

And you spend like four days with your boys and then you finally have a conversation for five minutes before you go to the airport.

Yeah.

Just really, really loosen it up.

We also had our golf obsession on here.

That was mostly a Hank one.

That's a big one.

I think girls don't like that.

I think they actually kind of like it.

No.

You're gone.

You're gone for five hours.

They have free time all to themselves.

Yeah, I don't know about that.

I think it's tougher once

the kids come into it.

Yeah, it's complicated for sure.

For sure.

Let men golf.

Let men golf.

Let men golf.

Fuck.

Let men print the shirts.

This was great.

Great Mount Rush.

This was fun, boys.

All right, so we'll see.

So what is the

if you guys get first and they and PFT and Hank get last and it's over?

Yep.

Yep.

So I really want a duel.

I don't think that's going to happen.

NWLs deserve a duel.

They do.

A duel will be fun.

A duel will be fun.

A duel will be very fun.

I hope that they're.

I hope.

Actually.

What?

I'll say my thoughts on whether I want a duel next show.

Oh, okay.

Well, what does that mean?

We can't wait for you.

Because if you guys get it.

Because if you guys get first and we get third, then I I will want a duel.

If we get first.

Wait, we can't have you guys tied after this one because then it'll be over.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So if we finish.

Unless you guys

need there to be a one-point or two-point

gap between you.

Yeah.

For there to be a potential for a duel on Friday.

Not that I'm trying to telegraph how the voting should be.

The duel next week.

It's going to be so.

It's impossible.

It's impossible to rig it.

Wait, how could it be over?

If you guys are tied, Friday's show, you can't get the same amount of points.

True.

So it would be over.

It's easy.

If it wouldn't be over, it would just be.

If you're first and you come in third, then it's over.

It's over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it needs to be you guys are one point

two points

separated.

That would make a fun last Mount Rushmore if there was

nothing on the line except for...

No, we want to duel.

You guys can't come in last.

Yeah.

No, they can.

No.

They can come in last if you guys come in second.

You guys would be up by two points.

and then you can come in last, yeah.

No, it would just mean like the only thing we have to avoid is last place for me and Hank, first place for Max.

That's correct, you're right, yeah.

That is that's a doomsday scenario, yeah.

That means well, for the listeners, the doomsday scenario is you guys come in first, we come in second, because then there's no duels.

Then it's then you guys are tied, then there's no duel, yeah, and there's no duel, so it can't be Max and memes in first and you guys in last, or

you guys like you guys being one ahead of them in this one, yeah, it which this can't this can't be be rigged.

So it like

we're just talking

the perfect voting would be you guys

being one or two away from each other going into Friday.

Yeah.

Like if me and Hank came in first and then Max and Miami's came in last.

That would be great.

That would be a great

awesome.

All right.

I don't like that result.

You know what else would be a really good result?

If we won't

disagree.

That would be good.

Or if we come in first and they come in second.

That would be fine.

Or if you come in second and they come in third.

Yep.

Also, it'd be great.

Yeah.

Okay.

What if Max and Memes come in first and we come in third?

Then it's over.

Then it's over.

What if we come in first and they come in third?

Then it's

still alive.

Very much still alive.

Very much still alive.

You guys would be up one.

We're just talking through all the series.

I was joking.

Oh, joking.

I was going to talk through every single day.

Wait, did you just say both?

Good joke, Hank.

You got us.

He did get us.

All right.

All right.

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And now, here's Tommy Fleetwood.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

He is the winner of the Tor Championship in Atlanta on Sunday.

It is Tommy Fleetwood.

Tommy, congratulations.

Congratulations.

You won one.

You won the big one.

How are you feeling?

Has it set in yet?

Because I think you know that the whole world was kind of rooting for you on Sunday.

Yeah, I don't, it's kind of, it hasn't.

It hasn't really.

I don't know.

It was such a cool day, and I've probably replayed it over and over in my mind.

It was great getting home to the family

and kind of going through those feelings and emotions again.

But yeah, I don't know.

I had

the support for me was like ridiculous.

I absolutely loved it.

I,

you know, there's been such a good buzz.

Like

the last few times that I've got into contention, like it's been great.

I've been playing so well and I've been getting there a lot, but there's been a really good, there's been a really cool buzz every time like I've got into contention recently.

And yeah, Sunday was very cool.

Yeah, you had LeBron at home watching the golf just tweeting about you non-stop just hoping that you were gonna win that must have been pretty crazy uh people started telling me afterwards because those kind of things you don't see and um and people you know people were saying afterwards you know lebron's been tweeting caitlin clark tiger sent a nice message like all of that kind of stuff so it's like when you are playing you're so like consumed by what you're doing in that moment and like it's it's such a huge thing like when you know for myself or for for whoever it is that's competing there.

But yeah, to hear all those things, that was pretty, pretty amazing.

Yeah.

Was there a moment on Sunday where you let yourself be like, you know what?

I'm going to do this.

Because, you know, you get up, what was it, three with two to play, and we were watching and we're like, I think this is going to happen.

I think this is going to happen.

Was that, did you let yourself have that moment, or were you just like, no, got to stay locked in because we've been here before and it's been bad sometimes?

We've definitely been here before

and it hasn't, it hasn't always gone very well.

It's one of those things.

So

I really wanted to get past that 15th hole.

I hate that 15th hole.

The angle of it.

I'd hit a terrible shot on Saturday.

And as much as

I did a great job of staying present all day and staying in the moment and playing each hole as it comes.

That was always creeping into my mind, like that one hole.

And no matter, I either sort of wanted to play well enough to build like a big lead at that point or like you know I still I was still gonna have to step up and hit a shot and I felt like

so I got off that all I mean I made bogey but bogey was fine it wasn't a disaster and then

you start to get a

when you're playing you start to get a sense how things are going and nobody had really

nobody had really caught up that was the thing like nobody actually um

this time that the biggest difference was nobody actually caught up with me and like kept going or went past me and I you know I didn't come back and around like especially after the 16th green, I mean, it was, it was kind of again, once again, it felt like mine to lose, but I didn't want to think about it.

And even I got to the last hole, and we, we would, both of us had hit two shots, we were just off the green.

And then there's

a person that announces you onto the 18th green, and he kind of announced me.

And he didn't say that I was the winner, but it sounded like he was announcing me as a winner.

I was like, well, hang on a minute.

Just like, let me, like, let me, let me finish.

And I had such a big lead, but you just, um, I just was like going into this deep mental cocoon that I just wanted to get done.

Yeah, yeah, and things were looking pretty good for you most of the day on Sunday.

There was a brief moment where Scotty looked like he was going to do a Scotty thing, and we saw him on the leaderboard climbing up.

And I think the impending sense of doom started to wash over us just a little bit.

We're like, Scotty's just about to go nuclear and hit like seven birdies in a row on the back nine and steal this thing away.

Were you paying attention at all to where Scotty was on the leaderboard?

A little bit, bit.

A little bit, but not loads.

Because

I was kind of locked in on what I was doing.

I

vaguely had a score in my mind as well that I felt like if I got to,

that it was,

especially after Patrick's start as well, because like a lot depending on how Patrick was doing.

I was playing with him.

We were on the same score at the start of the day.

He had a bit of a rough start, so he was always kind of playing catch-up.

But I, no,

you do see it as much as you try not to look at leaderboards.

They're around and you do see them, but I

was just sort of focusing on my thing.

I felt like I was, or I started to play well enough on the bat nine where I felt like it was in my control still.

And yeah, so I didn't pay that much attention.

Yeah, well, we got to say, from our perspective, the podcast perspective, we had a great time betting on Tommy Fleetwood because that was our first time backing you.

We got a random email on Sunday night.

That was the first time.

First time.

A random email.

Rob with two B's emailed the whole show and was like, hey, Tommy Fleetwood's going to win this Sunday or this weekend.

This is not AI.

And we all bet it 16 to 1.

And I got to say, I don't know what everyone says about you not being able to finish.

We're 1-0 with Tommy Fleetwood.

This is easy.

Yeah.

11.

1-0.

100% record.

So, yeah.

I'm going to start betting you more often, except I can't bet on you for the Ryder Cup.

Now we have to turn our back on you.

Yes.

Have you thought about that?

Like, all of America it felt like was behind you in this last tournament.

And now we just got to go back to, you know, double birds, America.

We hate your guts.

Yeah.

You don't have to.

No, we do.

Hey, I might bet on you.

Yeah, yeah.

We absolutely do.

We hate you.

Yeah.

We hope you choke.

Well,

that's really sweet of you guys.

That's nice.

But

I think it's the cool thing about the Ryder Cup.

And

I definitely

will not be

offended or upset by anything that anybody feels like they want to say or go go supporting the home team because that's how it should be.

And I think that's one of the great things.

We don't get to do that sort of thing either.

Like we,

in our sport, obviously, you play so individually and you play all over the world.

So it's not like you get like a home and away feeling in sort of that team environment.

And I think that's one of the great things for us about the Ryder Cup.

Like, if you're going to, you know, I've been lucky to play at two home rider cups and the support's unbelievable.

And the home crowd definitely play like a huge part in

like that home team vibe and the atmosphere and they help you.

So, um, yeah, go in into an away rider cup.

I'm just, I'm just, I think we're all excited about the opportunity.

And yeah, um, that's how it should be.

Yeah.

Um, so have you noticed that your uh son has become a meme?

Uh, try me hardest.

You can use it.

PFT says it better than I do.

Just try me hardest.

Yeah.

I think on Sunday morning, I woke up in my house and I just started repeating that to myself over and over.

We were all trying me hardest.

300 times, my kids were like, what the hell?

I'm just talking in an English accent.

I mean, he's right.

I mean, there's two things.

There was actually

last week in Atlanta, there turned out to be like this cult following that kept shouting at me.

I'm just trying my hardest.

They were like, Coming around.

That was

nice.

But I actually, I remember watching that video, and

I never realized how strong his accent was.

I just thought he had like a neutral voice, but he just sounds he sounds just like I do, just a bit higher pitch.

But yeah, he's, it's, it was a good message.

And I swear, we

like, I didn't know I I was going to get asked a question and we'd never spoke about anything ever.

And that was the answer he came out with, which was the funniest thing.

Yeah.

Yeah, it seemed like he had had media training.

Yeah.

This was a perfect answer to give to a reporter after a tough round and you're just trying to be hottest out there.

And he's like, great perspective on his part too.

He's like, I'll go after it next year.

I'll attack it again.

We've got another opportunity for this.

It really did seem.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It seemed like he had had that training before.

It had to have been like a cool dad moment because like your kid, like you said, you didn't tell him what to say and then he has a good message and you're like i kind of did a good job here because my kid is you know it like that it's a really good message it's like there's a lot of cynicism in the sports world these days and he's just trying my hardest

you're absolutely right i think there is actually um and there's a lot of i mean there's like there's so much pressure put on people of course there is but um He was right.

It was a great message.

And

I think we're all very, I mean, first of all, we found it very funny, but then we actually were like, oh, we're very proud here.

He's given off a good message and he said the right thing.

Yeah, it's good, Frank.

Have you worked on that shot for next year so that he's going to be able to go out there and learn from what he's done in the past?

Yeah, I mean, first of all, the pressure is always on me to make the masters.

It's not about actually me competing.

It's about Frankie getting another shot at that at that green on the par three.

So I've got to make sure I want to make the masters.

And

he, yeah, he continues to put the work in.

I

don't want to tell him yet.

I feel like he might be, he's probably another year away at least from reaching the green.

But he loves it.

He absolutely loves it.

And yeah, I actually, one of my favorite things to do is playing golf with him.

He's great.

That's

that's so cool.

So yeah, in terms of the media, I want to give you credit because you always face the media after your guts get ripped out in some of these tournaments where you finish second.

Was there ever a time that you were like, I really, really don't want to do this?

Because I don't know how you did it.

I don't know how you were able to put on the face that you put on, but all credit to you because I know that myself personally i'd be like fuck this i'm not answering anything yeah i mean those those moments um

those moments stink because you've you know that you've lost or you've let it slip or someone's beat you and you've been so close and you and you kind of

i mean

i i would feel what everybody else feels like i do feel it i uh feel like i've let myself down or people down or i haven't you know i've let it go um

you know i i hate i hate the word choke and stuff i mean those are real things I mean and I would never but the important thing is to not like turn away from it and I did always say through it I think it's really important to try and

say the right things both both inwardly and outwardly and I felt like that was very important and I do think in in sport

like best thing in the world doing every single interview possible after doing something like last week on Sunday

but you know, you don't get that without doing the rest of it either.

And there's plenty of disappointments.

And

just felt like, yeah, I think you should,

I think you should speak after the round, good or bad.

I think that's, it's kind of what people want to hear.

And I also just used it as

motivation because I felt like, again, say the, say the right things to yourself and say the right things outwardly.

So I used it like I had to go and speak and

say the right things.

And just by doing that,

you know, instead of

what you, you know, you could sulk, you could spend hours or days in like a bad place because you've, you know, what you've done or you know you've let yourself down.

But just by doing that, it's like said something good straight away.

So I kind of think it helped me as well.

Yeah.

Did you have moments where you thought to yourself finishing in second is really good?

It's a lot of money.

Yeah, you get a lot of money.

You're better than almost everybody else out there.

Like, that's a great result.

You're the second best golfer in the world on that given weekend.

Objectively, that's great.

You did an awesome job.

Did you tell yourself that?

Well, it's a great result.

And

I did tell myself that.

I told myself things.

I mean, the overriding feeling is upset or angry or disappointed because

you probably feel like you should have won.

That's just how it is.

I mean, there's times when I'll finish 15th or 20th and I'll feel great because I shot a 64 on Sunday.

So it doesn't really make sense in a way.

you know, you finish second had a great week, but you feel

crappy about it.

But it was.

and you have to,

again, go back to all those times where I had to talk about it.

And I said, there was, there's, there's always, there's never any point in always just looking at the negatives and what you did wrong because I did so many things well.

There were times when I was leading the tournament after 71 holes or 70 holes or 69 holes.

It's a long time.

Like, and you've done so well and you beat everybody up to that point, but you just let it slip.

But there's so much more good than bad.

And, and yeah, I just think I never wanted to get in a negative spiral because I wanted to get there again and I was going to go in that position again.

Sunday, I was leading by two with three to play, or I was leading by three with four to play with tough holes coming up.

If you let things get to you at that point, like it's not going to help, is it?

So, like, all the things that I did before, I felt like played a role in what happened on Sunday as well.

Right.

I've got a specific golf-related question, kind of a technical one.

You hit mini-driver.

You have a mini driver in your bag.

When do you decide, like, okay, you know what?

This is not the time for the big dog.

I'm going to hit mini driver instead.

Like, what does a mini driver do that a three-wood doesn't do?

Um,

I, so I ended up putting that mini driver in, I think it was three years ago now at the Masters.

Um,

two years ago, three years ago, can't remember, 2023, maybe.

And, um,

I never really had a three-wood that I loved.

Like, I always had this three-wood that I felt like I wanted this, like, rocket launcher of a three-wood that if it was a long par five, I hit the fairway, I could go for the green from 2.90.

I would never like choose to hit a three-wood to hit the fairway.

I would just hit a T-down driver or or something.

So then this mini driver came out, put it in the bag, and I was like, oh my God, this thing's unbelievable.

I can just swing it and hit it.

Has this little tight draw?

Because actually, people always, people associate me with like hitting a good draw, but my driver, I feel like it straight to

not kind of, if anything, left to right.

Like, I don't like to draw my driver.

So having a club that then.

did that was really helpful.

And I don't know, it was just, I was so good with it and comfortable with it that I just took it out quite a lot.

And I would just hit it off a tea if I didn't quite feel right, if it made sense.

And then I actually tried a three-wood again this year, just for the sake of trying it.

I mean, we can, you know, we have that luxury on tour, like you just feel like trying a club and you can try it.

And I put this three-wood down and I just looked at it.

I was like, that's disgusting.

Like, it looks like, it looks like it should be a five-wood, but it's got no oft in it.

I can't hit this.

And

so maybe I think my three-wood days might be gone.

So is there a point, like hypothetically, if you're, what, a 13-handicap, Hank?

13-handicap?

Yeah.

If you're a 13 handicap, for example, is there any point in you having a mini driver or are you just bringing on a mini driver so that you can talk to your friends about how you have a mini driver?

That's always a point in having a mini driver.

Almost.

Yeah.

Your YouTube channel is awesome.

Love it.

Love seeing the behind-the-scenes stuff.

You also said that you're now trying to break 100 as a lefty,

which kind of

dunking on all of all of us regular golfers.

It felt funny.

Yeah.

You've never watched me play yet.

Yeah.

So how is that going?

How is the lefty journey going?

What are you scoring as a lefty now?

No, I haven't actually played 18 holes on a course yet.

So like literally, I promise the first time I play on a course, whether it be nine holes or 18 holes, I will be filming it and it will go on YouTube.

So I haven't been on a course yet.

There's a couple more videos coming out.

I had a lesson left-handed, which I said I wanted.

I haven't had a golf lesson.

I mean, I have golf lessons all the time.

Of course I do, but like,

it's, it's different to having one where I don't have a clue what I'm doing.

I mean, I'm completely, for everything that I know about golf, give me a club the other way, and my mind goes blank and

I can't fix anything.

I can't figure it out.

Like, I can see what's happening, but I can't change it.

So

it's all new to me.

And

I haven't, and again, like people that don't, you know, people that play, but then don't have the chance to play.

Like, I consider playing right-handed golf my job, and I haven't hit balls left-handed for a while now.

Like, I've been working every day for quite a while, finishing the playoffs and finishing the year.

I had the open.

So, I am actually going to hit some balls, actually,

soon left-handed.

So, I'll get my left-handed clubs out again.

But all of it just feels like very

real.

Like, I love the game of golf, and this is like

it's not starting afresh, but it kind of is.

And I'm used to it, basically.

So, but like, the whole process is going to be like filmed.

yeah so some people are saying not us we would never say this but some people are saying that if tommy fleetwood was a real man he would play left-handed in the ryder cup

no my my left-handed clubs won't be coming out at the rider cup sounds like you're afraid sounds like you're not a real man he's not a real man i'd do it come on do it you could be imagine if you beat us lefty

We'd have to stop being country.

Yeah.

I can imagine it, but it won't happen.

We should do.

So we have a couple golfers.

PFT and Hank are pretty good golfers.

I'm a terrible golfer.

Maybe we can figure out a time in your schedule where you and I play as a scramble against PFT and Hank, but you have to play lefty, and you can watch just the horrific golfing I do.

I would love that.

I would love that.

You can watch what I do.

The thing is, I know that there's always a disaster in me.

So

even if I have a little bit of hitting some decent shots, and then

I think it's because I don't know,

like, I can hit bad shots right-handed, but I know I can fix it, I can do something different, but because I don't know what I'm doing, my mind

just goes, and uh, that's that's what's coming when I'm left-handed.

So it feels like it's not if, it's when the bad shots are coming.

Exactly, it does, it does.

No matter how good it's going, there's a shank, there's a top, there's a lost ball, like it's always in there.

Yeah, but the fun part about playing left-handed for you, it must be like what I feel when I play.

When I hit a good shot, I'm super excited.

I'm like, holy shit, how did I do that?

And when I hit a bad shot, I'm like, whatever.

Let's go again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go.

Let's go again.

Yeah, it is.

It's like, but it is.

It's completely like starting.

It's not quite from starting to scratch because I can sort of hit the ball.

But,

but, yeah, it's, it's, I get all the, I get all the feelings that all the,

I guess, regular golfers get.

So I like it in a sick one.

It would be a great video, though, like you, you, you know, screwing up a shot and and then having to rely on me and you standing over me being like don't this up and i will it up

when when you screw it up and you've got to rely on me i'll be i'll be so nervous

so uh i want to go back to the ryder cup real quick did you did you sleep naked with the rider cup

um oh in 2018 yeah

uh i was i was naked in that picture yeah

so what was the process behind that you would you you didn't think it was good enough to just beat us?

You had to be like,

I'm also fully nude with the cup.

No, it was, it was somebody, it was somebody else's idea.

He thought this would be like a great, a great picture or great concept.

We did a video, didn't we?

Me and Fran.

And

like, we ended up going down to see it.

We had to ride a cup.

And I think Fran was just very set on like, okay, we'll just get in bed.

We'll do the video and then we'll carry on partying.

And as he turned around, I just stripped off and I just got in bed.

Yeah,

I thought it was funny.

But yeah, that was cool.

I see people still remember it.

Yeah.

It was a little bit disrespectful to the United States.

We're adding fuel to the fire.

I don't think it was disrespectful.

I'm just finding ways to get angry at Tommy Fleetwood, a man who I've never been upset at in my entire life.

Yeah.

I just need some motivation going on.

We're one and oh as well.

Yeah, that's true.

We're one and oh.

Yeah, we are one and oh.

But we have to turn our back on you.

We can't bet against the United States going on.

Well, it's in three weeks as well, so we still got time.

Yeah, we got time.

We got time.

We don't have to argue now.

Yeah.

We can,

I got a kind of a tough question, but like, obviously, with the season you had incredible and coming close all these times, was there a moment at all during all the second places and being close that you had like a not a crisis of confidence, but being like, maybe, maybe I'm not going to do this.

Maybe I'm not going to break through.

Because I always find that interesting with athletes, like the mental part of it and being able to fight against that and be like no i gotta i'm playing well i gotta keep trusting myself

yeah 100 and i think i think there's a bit of both i never i never felt like i

wasn't gonna win but more and more doubt creeps in which is just natural because um

you know every time i'd been there um it didn't happen for one for one reason or another and

um it definitely gets

definitely gets harder every time you go there not necessarily like harder in a playing sense, but you,

you just deal with more stuff.

It's not like, it's just not come easy.

But I also, um, I was, I, I was also always conscious of, I felt like my, um,

everybody can inspire in like a different way.

Like, and I feel like our job when you're on TV or you're playing sports and you want to pass things down, you want to try and like motivate people in whatever way you can.

Um,

you know, I, I haven't been

like an amazing winner.

I haven't been like a dominating athlete.

So like I'm not going to motivate in that way.

People aren't going to watch videos of me dominating tournaments or anything like that.

So I felt like mine

was, or it is, a story of perseverance, like mental fortitude in a different way.

And I always kind of felt that.

And I always wanted to,

as many times as it will go wrong,

I always wanted to remember that.

Like, I will get this done.

I will get my first win.

And it's never been,

for me, it's never been about just winning once.

Like, I've always said I want to win, you you know, multiple times.

I want to win plenty of times, but you just have to win the first one first.

Right.

And

that's been like something that I just haven't done.

But I,

yeah, I just always felt like my story was going to be different in that way.

And that's how I was going to be able to sort of motivate people.

So I kept that in mind.

But of course,

doubts creep in massively.

The doubts were there on Sunday.

But you just have to work just that little bit harder to sort of keep them at bay.

Did you do anything differently on Sunday than than you've done in the past specifically that felt like it was the difference in you holding on to this?

Not particularly.

I don't think I played any better than the last few times like I've been in contention.

Like I put it really well.

But I also think,

and again, it's a strange scenario where the amount when you I hate the word failing, like I just don't like it, but let's just say I, you know, I failed to win like a bunch of times.

Like when you do it enough times, you sort of, you definitely stop worrying about it.

Like Like you stop fearing failing because you keep doing it and you're always fine.

And you just get up and you dust yourself off and you go the next time.

So I'm not really worried about that.

But then you do have all these doubts.

So it's like this kind of like weird crossroads that you come into where

you're kind of totally fine with where you are.

And if it goes wrong, you're fine, but you're still doubting it.

But I just think that this time.

It just opened up for me like way more this time than other events.

Like I say, nobody sort of managed to catch up with me.

me.

I hit the shots at the right time.

It just fell on my lap.

And this was the door that I got the chance to walk through, really.

Yeah, it was very cool.

And I heard that you're getting into American sports a little bit too, with all the time you've been spending over here.

Is that right?

Yeah, I love sports.

So I love American sports.

I think there's so much that you can enjoy and learn from American sports.

I love it.

So every time, like with the Taylor-made guys, because

Taylor-made guys are there from Monday to Wednesday, like Tuesday night,

if the

baseball team is in town, like we try and go to a ballpark and watch.

Like that's Tuesday night's our night to go to a ballpark.

I love that, just going there and hanging out.

I've actually enjoyed preseason NFL, actually.

I did watch, I've just watched the second season of quarterback as well.

So I'm sort of having an NFL frenzy in my mind at the moment.

So I'm enjoying it.

I love that.

Do you want a Super Bowl over in England?

Because Roger Goodell is trying to put the Super Bowl in England.

Well, you knows?

I probably shouldn't be over in England, should it?

No, good point.

Good point, Tom.

Tommy, you like even more.

So, yeah, that would be gone.

And I am actually a massive NBA fan.

Basketball is probably my favorite sport.

Okay.

Who's your favorite player?

Steph Curry.

When I started playing on the PJ tour, Golden State, Steph Curry, they were like, you know, they were obviously the best team and I sort of latched onto them a little bit.

Bit of a glory supporter.

Yeah.

Have you ever played golf with him?

I haven't.

No.

He's good.

You got to make that happen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would love to.

All right.

I got a couple last questions.

The first one was, so Tron Carter from No Laying Up, he is a massive fan of yours.

He's shown up to a couple of the tournaments when you've been in contention.

Would you get a little bit nervous when he showed up on Sunday and like, oh, here we go.

Because I know at least two times.

I know he went to England, I believe, once, and then he was there on Sunday.

Yeah.

Did you notice him when when he showed up?

You're like, okay, here we go.

We got to win this.

I didn't see him that day actually when he showed up, but I saw him afterwards and like we sort of had a little chat.

And then I didn't see him, I didn't see him on Sunday last week

until the very end.

And I saw him, the presentation was going on and I saw him in the crowd and I gave him a little fist pump.

That's awesome.

He's been such a great supporter.

So

like, I appreciate it all.

But yeah, he's been great.

So it's just cool when you've been through, like, when you've been through it and you've had people that like have supported you for so long, like getting to share like a cool moment.

And then we finally did it.

It's great.

It's awesome.

That's an awesome.

Yeah.

Like us, we've supported you for so long.

Yeah, we're 1-0.

Shout out, Rob, with two B's.

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Your caddy's a hoss.

He's a tall guy.

He's a big boy.

Yeah, everybody actually thinks I'm, when they see me in person, they think I'm taller than what people expect because I stand next to him all day.

Yeah.

Like

I'm really short.

Is it nice having a guy like, you know, if shit goes down, like, he's, he's got your back.

He's, he's a big guy.

I could take him in a fight, no problem.

So it's not.

Wait, how tall is he?

6'5 or 6'6?

Yeah.

It's funny watching you guys walk down the down the fairways.

You're like, damn, that's a, that's a big caddy.

Yeah, like I said, because everybody thinks I'm like five foot two or something, and I'm not.

I'm five's three, but no, I've been good at that.

Yeah, like everybody just thinks I'm shorter than what I am because he is a big boy.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, so Ryder Cup, any predictions?

Well, of course, I'm going to stand by my

boys and my team and say that,

you know, I'm going to go in with full faith in our team and say Europe are going to bring the the Ryder Cup back.

I can't say anything other than that.

Well, is there one guy that you are really hoping you don't get matched up against?

No, no.

I'm sorry about sitting on the fence on that one.

I would love to give you a better answer.

But no, I love being part of the team.

I love getting a chance to play any of those guys.

I just think the Ryder Cup, you're guaranteed to get an unbelievable matchup, whether you're playing foursome, four-ball, singles.

be

like you're going to be playing someone that you think, yeah, this is awesome.

I get the chance to play him.

So, no,

I'll happily, you know, go ahead against anyone because I just think it's so cool.

And what an amazing opportunity.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, Tommy, thank you so much.

Incredible job on Sunday.

We really enjoyed watching you play and win.

And worst of luck in the Ryder Cup.

Oh, well, thanks, guys.

Yeah, we're 1-0.

We're 1-0.

Yeah, we're 1-0 together.

That's true.

We're 1-0 together.

This will suck when if USA loses and we bet on them and now we're one and one.

Yeah.

I might have to just bet on Tommy to win his matchups and then on the USA to win the Ryder Cup.

Yeah.

How about that?

That's good hedge.

I mean, yeah, that would be what?

So would I be included in like 3-0 then?

Or would that just be?

Yeah, here we count.

Yeah, yeah.

Just doing me job.

Try my hardest stream.

Just try my hardest.

I promise you, I'll be trying my hardest.

All right.

Thanks so much, Tommy.

Congrats again, man.

Thank you, Tommy.

Thanks, guys.

Thanks so much.

All right.

See ya.

Take care.

Appreciate it, man.

that was fun thanks for making this work thank you thank you very much you guys are drinking yeah we'll do a video sometime whenever we can get our uh schedules set we'd love to come

really should i would love that like i say there's literally never going to be anything i do left-handed that's not really on camera so i love it it'll be very promise you i'm not practicing and it'll turn up any good i'll be awful yeah all right all right very cool all right see ya see you guys bye

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

He is a recurring guest.

It is Yahoo Sports College Football Writer.

Senior College Football Writer, Ross?

Sure, senior, yeah.

That doesn't make me old.

Does it make me old?

No, you're good.

Senior college football writer, Ross Dellinger, who we had on last year.

Great talk with you last year.

And we figured, let's talk some college football.

Let's also talk barstool versus ohio state because you seem to be the most plugged in guy so why don't you tell us uh what you have found out and uh we can maybe clear the whole record because it's gone back and forth a million times it feels like

Yeah,

well, I didn't expect to wake up Tuesday morning and be reporting on a barstool Ohio State Big Ten drama, but you never know, right, what you're going to run into in this, in this crazy industry these days.

So I woke up Tuesday morning, and yeah, I was, I was, uh, we taped our podcast, College Football Inquire, Tuesday morning.

And

before we got on the tape, we had talked about what we were going to talk about.

And one of the things was, you know, the report about Dave Portenoy being banned from Ohio Stadium.

And so before we got on that call, I did what I thought was sort of due diligence and just reached out to some people,

including folks at Ohio State, who then decided to put out basically a statement

saying that they didn't ban Dave Portnoy, and it was Fox's decision to ban or to not let Dave Portnoy onto the field.

And then it kind of went from there.

Then the Big Ten released a statement

that said that Dave Portnoy won't appear on the main Fox Big Noon kickoff set in any of its

stadiums this year.

So it kind of took off like a little wildfire there.

And so that's sort of where we are.

Okay.

So let me ask you this.

Based on the chain of events, as it sounds like some organizations were reacting to what other organizations said, do you think that it's likely that Ohio State was the initial party that said no, Dave Portnoy?

Here's what I'd know.

And I think this was announced maybe in like mid-July, I feel like, somewhere around there.

And pretty much immediately, like the next week was Big Ten Media Day, Football Media Day in Las Vegas.

I was there.

And it was made pretty clear to me there from a variety of people,

including, I think, people from Ohio State,

that they weren't like super thrilled with the announcement.

And some of them were taken by surprise

on the announcement.

So I will say that.

And

so it wouldn't surprise me at all that they expressed some level of disagreement or concern about the role of Dave Portnoy on big noon kickoff.

Okay, so all right.

So

here's what I know.

And you could tell me if this is wrong or not.

See, I think what would happen is Ohio State doesn't want us there.

That's a fact.

We were going to be there.

The Barstool College Football Show was going to be in Columbus on Saturday against Texas or Ohio State.

They said no.

Ohio State said, no, you cannot be on campus.

We had our travel booked.

Like this isn't just me making it up.

We were ready to go.

And then I think it obviously came out.

And then Ohio State might have been like, well, this kind of doesn't look great that we're trying to ban someone.

So Fox maybe jumped in and was like, hey, we're not going to have him in any stadium.

I do think Ohio State doesn't want Barstool on campus.

I think it's great for the rivalry, by the way.

I have no problem with Ohio State being petty here.

I think Ohio State fans should have no blame.

Like, no one should be going after Ohio State fans.

This is all great for the rivalry, but Ohio State does not want Barstool on campus next to the big noon kickoff set.

They don't want that.

And they basically told us that.

So

I agree with you in that this is great for the rivalry and college football.

Like we all have to, I was talking to somebody today about this.

We live

in a college football bubble, right?

Where we just take everything so seriously, all these things.

And like the people outside of the bubble, especially like I live in DC, right?

And I deal with a lot of like congressional people or whatever.

And they're like dealing with like real problems, like wars and people dying and taxes and tariffs.

And like it reminds me, college football is entertainment.

It's just sports, they're games, and they're entertainment.

And so all this does is sort of like, it's a piece of entertainment, right?

I mean, I think it's like Andy Staples, my colleague,

he said this on our podcast this morning.

It's like,

sort of like lean into it.

It's like WWE wrestling sort of thing, like lean into it all.

And it's sort of good for

sort of good for, in a way, college football in

maybe even the Big Ten, right?

Any news is good news, Fox, all that.

So I think you've got a great point.

Yeah.

A lot of that.

If it's good for anyone, it's really good for Dave.

Yes.

This is the environment where Dave Dave is

very, very comfortable playing at this level.

Like, this is the best news.

Hey, Dave,

we're going to ask you to do less work this weekend.

You're not going to be there, so you get to stay at home.

You get to live in Florida for the weekend.

Well, no, he is going to Columbus.

Oh, he's going to Columbus just on campus.

It's not going to be the stadium.

Yeah, so he has to do less work still.

And also, he is now the focus of everyone's attention going to this game.

There's no place that Dave feels more at home than where he's at right now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's it's so so what's the future though?

Like, is Ohio State going to ban us from every

ever going to their campus?

Because it feels that way.

And it feels like Ohio State's very upset at Fox.

And what, like, they're, they're the number one partner for Fox.

They are the, you know, I mean, obviously, Michigan, but like, Ohio State, you need Ohio State for the Big Ten.

That is a very big piece of the puzzle.

Well, you know, this, this

sort of drama is a good reminder of the

connective tissue between

conferences and their media affiliate where they get most of their money from right right where they rely on these tv networks the sec to espn obviously the big 10 to fox and nbc and cbs um the big 12 to fox and espn they have them both acc to espn like they get a majority their schools get a majority of their their revenue from these tv contracts and so it's sort of like one of the questions is always like, who's making these decisions?

Who's running these conferences?

And what's the influence that a TV network has?

And,

you know, I think it's sort of like a fascinating dynamic moving forward because you're right, right?

Like Fox

has this huge share.

in the Big Ten, pays a lot of money to the Big Ten in its schools

and and wants to see them thrive and do well, but they also want to compete with the other networks and have the personalities like Dave and you guys and others to compete with their you know their competition.

And so it's going to be fascinating to see sort of how this

evolves right.

And we see some of this in the SEC too, right?

We've seen this

certainly there's there's McAfee on the on College Game Day.

There's Paul Feinbaum on the SEC network, who has certainly had run-ins with people at SEC schools who have pushed back on certain things done and said.

So it's a pretty fascinating dynamic.

It is very interesting.

Yeah.

So can we talk a little bit about the college football coming up this weekend?

Yeah, the actual games.

I'm excited.

I looked at the grid, looked at the schedule.

My Saturday is book solid.

I'm probably not going to leave my couch at all.

The dog will be lucky if I let him out like three times over the course of that day.

It's going to be an awesome day of college football.

Let's start with Miami, Notre Dame.

Catholics versus Convicts.

Run it back again.

We just talked to a couple of our in-house college football experts.

That's coming out on Friday's show, but they were very, they were kind of split on this.

Some people that I've talked to are really high on Miami this year.

So what do you see happening this weekend?

Well, unfortunately, and I got a text from somebody.

in Miami this morning about this because I guess our like picks or like staff picks not game picks but like season pick sort of things came out.

And one of the questions was, who's going to be like the most disappointing team this year?

And I picked Miami.

And so I got like a nasty, I kind of got a nasty message this morning, but I had to pick somebody.

I'm going to make somebody angry.

Right.

But, you know, but I do, you know, Miami is what, top 12, 13.

So the thought is that they probably won't finish inside that.

maybe this year and i don't i don't know like i'm just throwing darts at the wall here aren't we all like with these predictions right I mean, we're just kind of throwing darts at the wall.

I do think that this is going to be a really, really good game.

I'm excited about it.

So I'm going to be in Columbus, but I'm flying out of Columbus Saturday night to Miami and then

covering Miami-Notre Dame Sunday night.

And it's a really,

I mean, the atmosphere should be awesome.

Notre Dame.

always travels well, brings a lot of folks down there.

But I do think that I do give the Irish an edge, even though we sort of like don't know a ton about either of these teams because they've lost a lot.

They've got new quarterbacks.

Obviously, we know a lot about

Carson Beck coming over from Georgia.

Big storyline of the offseason.

You know, so I mean, a lot of players don't transfer out of Georgia,

right?

And so that's sort of a big storyline on how, and he had some, he had some sort of

off-the-field, girlfriend sort of drama that unfolded this spring.

So

it'll be interesting.

I will say this about Mario Cristobal.

They have built it up there, right?

Every year, they've gotten better.

Every year, the lines look more and more like SEC lines, their defensive and offensive lines.

They're spending a lot of money and investing big time down there.

So

where that comes a lot of expectations.

All right.

So you travel all around the country.

You talk to everyone.

Give me a coach or a team that you think is like on the rise that we're not, you know, we obviously know the mainstays, but a team you're like, hey, this coach has things things moving in the right direction.

This program feels like it's getting momentum.

Huh, good question.

You know, one of my, of my like season picks,

I ended up, I think I ended up picking, you know, Clemson to

win the ACC.

And then they were sort of my, like, if there was going to be a surprise this year, like the big like surprise was that.

a school other than the Big Ten or SEC

would win the national championship, which in my mind would be Clemson.

So, like, that's not really answering your question because Clemson's not like some upstart, you know, but in a way, they've had, right, they've sort of had a few down years, and it feels like I visited there back in April or May, and it feels like

they're coming back.

Yeah.

It just kind of feels that way there.

And they've got a really veteran quarterback who I think is going to probably win or get very close to winning the Heisman Trophy.

He's going to be up there probably at the NK Klubnik.

And I think they're getting close to they made a defensive coordinator change.

But anyway, so I think when I think of like young coaches like up and coming, I go down in New Orleans actually, and I look at John Sommerall and what he's done at Tulane and like, look out, right?

He's going to be like another, it's going to be another coaching offseason where,

you know, somebody like that is going to be at the top of everybody's list when they make coaching changes.

And they're probably going to be a lot of coaching changes this year.

There weren't a lot last year.

It was like a historic low.

And usually, what happens after a historic low is we get a really big high.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was actually, I was looking at some of your reporting that you did earlier on the future of realignment and what college football is going to look like two, five, ten years down the road.

Are we going to get to a place where there's one giant like division, one conference?

Are we going to get to a place where it's like the power two model?

Yeah, it's like the question like everybody wants to know is like look into the crystal ball and tell us in five seven years when all this movement is going to happen which we know when it's going to happen we at least know when it's probably going to happen between 2030 and 2032 because the big 12 and big 10 tv deals come open then the college football playoff deal ends then in 31 the nca basketball tournament its contract ends in 32.

So you have all these things that come open.

So like that's the span of time where you're going to have some kind of like shift into whether it's a super league or, you know, a couple of leagues sort of taking over or, you know, a split from the NCAA.

You're, you're, you're, whatever is going to happen is probably going to happen then.

And I don't, I don't know what's going to happen, but I can tell you something's going to happen, right?

We're going to have, like, we're going to have a conference, another round of conference realignment that's going to see the

biggest brands continue to consolidate

into one or two leagues.

And it's just kind of like

the economy and capitalism in general.

Like that's how it works, right?

We see that in every walk of life outside of college sports.

The biggest brands consolidate so they can make more money and keep the money that they make.

And I think we're just going to see that.

And obviously, we know two schools sued the ACC, although they settled.

They settled for an easier exit path out of the ACC.

So that news flash, right, they're going to almost certainly leave at some point.

And the odds are they're going to leave during that stretch and go to the SEC or Big Ten.

And that's going to cause a domino effect in the ACC, potentially could impact the Big 12 as well.

And then you're going to have some kind of conglomeration of schools, whether it's Big Ten and SEC only or some other schools also mixed in, sort of probably separate themselves from everybody else because no longer can you have the University of Texas with a budget of 250 million competing in the same division as UTSA with a budget of 40 million right right you like that's

that's probably not gonna happen anymore

um all right you said you mentioned your picks uh your preseason picks can we go around the conferences the the the the power four conferences you can give us your championship game who's going to win that conference and why so we'll start with the sec what do you have in the SEC?

I have a little bit of surprise.

I have LSU

winning the SEC championship.

And that LSU Clemson game this weekend is going to be a ball.

I actually wanted to go to that one, but just as far as flights and getting to Miami,

I'm going to go to Columbus instead.

But that's really the, I think LSU and Clemson, you know, could be in the top eight, top four at the end of the year at the playoff.

So I have LSU,

I think I have LSU beating Georgia

in the SEC championship game.

Okay.

Brian Kelly getting off the hot seat.

Yeah, Garrett Nusspire.

Yeah,

it's a lot of pressure down there.

They spent a lot of money.

They were spending, I think I went down there for a story in February.

They spent on their team

$5 million two years ago.

They spent this year $18 million.

What's he going to do different in week one?

I feel like Brian Kelly, week one, hasn't always turned out the best.

Yeah, it hasn't been great, right?

I think they think Elishi's lost five straight season openers, even going back to like Orgeron's first two years.

So this is a big one.

At Clemson, it's going to be rocking there.

You know, you got the Battle of the Death Valleys.

Yeah, it's going to be

an exciting one.

But you know what?

The loser of that game, and this is kind of like the good and bad of an expanded playoff, right?

If you have a four-team playoff, the loser of that game is probably out

or certainly has to do a lot to get in.

And the loser of that game now in a 12-team playoff is okay.

It's fine.

Especially if it's a close game.

Yeah.

Are you not believing in Arch Manning?

No, I'm a believer in Arch Manning.

In fact, I visited there two weeks ago, got a story coming out of Yahoo Tomorrow about Mr.

Arch Manning.

And

give us some juicy tidbits from the story.

Okay.

Well, first of all, The one thing concerns me about Texas in general is offensive and defensive lines.

Offensive lines, all new.

One guy, one returning starter.

So he's going to be throwing passes to, and all new receivers too, right?

I think they lost their top three or top four receivers.

So a lot of pressure on him.

Juicy stuff in my story.

Arch is not like, you know, he's not like the most

entertaining, drama-filled guy, right?

The Mannings are kind of like these southern gentlemen who just kind of like talk slow and are sort of boring, really nice and polite, but kind of boring.

Well, what is the most interesting thing?

So I talked to a a few of Arch's friends.

They go to this place in Austin called Matt's El Rancho.

Love it.

I don't know if, yeah, if you guys have been, it's a pretty good Tex-Mex spot.

Great case.

And, yeah, yeah, like Bob's queso apparently is real popular there.

There you go.

I'm familiar with Matt's El Rancho.

I've waited hours for margaritas there, yeah.

So, so one of their friends was telling me that Arch, unfortunately for him, when they go there, he can't, um, he can't get the margaritas because too many people know him there, you know, so he can't get like real sloppy.

So he can't do all that.

But he likes to, they go wake surfing on

Lake Travis there, and they eat Chipotle a lot, and they go to Mattel ranchos.

And in this past summer, actually, him and a friend visited, they went to Cabo

and to

be with Peyton.

So Peyton has like this villa.

in Cabo, like on the beach, and they hit golf balls off of a mat into the ocean from Peyton's home.

I'm like wow that sounds that sounds pretty cool.

Yeah, that sounds excellent.

I saw that Eli there was a story that Eli told Arch never take a picture with a drink in your hand

Because there's the famous Eli picture of him like, you know with his eyes half closed.

He's like if you have a if you have a drink in your hand and you blink at the wrong time It just becomes a meme.

It became the SEC boyfriend meme.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's good advice from the uncle.

Yeah, did he did he address losing his student ID, like his first week in Austin?

Because that was very relatable, too.

Yeah, twice, right?

He lost his

ID twice.

Once he left in an English class, I don't know what happened the other time, but he left in an English class and somebody found it, actually scanned it to get into the building, the football building, and thankfully didn't like, you know, do anything nefarious in there, just handed the ID over, and the ID got all the way up to Sark, who FaceTimed Arch with the ID and was like, hey, missing something, buddy.

That's awesome.

I love that.

That's awesome.

So, what about the Big Ten?

Who do you have at the top of the Big Ten this year?

Who do I have?

Penn State.

I have Penn State

winning the Big Ten.

I visited there a couple weeks ago, actually, to sit down with Jim Knowles, who's like a fascinating guy, defensive coordinator there.

Fascinating story.

Grew up in downtown Philly and just like a Philly guy, smoked cigars.

And he was really, really fascinating interview.

I think he's going to have that defense ready to go.

I think Drew Aller, a quarterback, that's obviously the big question.

I sat down with Drew.

He spent the offseason training and he's gotten faster.

He's lost some weight.

He's eating right, he said.

So, you know, that interception at the end of the Notre Dame game, I think, still sticks with him.

It was, you know, I mean, you guys probably would agree.

It was like one of the worst late-game college football playoff decisions we've seen.

And he knows that.

And he knows that it just kind of sits with him.

So I think the motivation, all that from them,

I think they win the Big Ten.

And who do they beat?

Who did I have them beating?

I think I have them beating Ohio State.

Yeah, which would be a rematch, obviously, of regular season.

So

are you believing at all in Oregon, Dante Moore?

Yeah, I am.

Super talented player.

But obviously, they have a lot of new pieces.

But I am a believer.

I mean, the pieces around him, right?

They've done an incredible, like, Dan Lanning's done an incredible job there of recruiting.

And obviously, in this new sort of NIL era, they have more advantage than a lot of schools.

And I think they're using that.

It's pretty clearly.

And

Dan surrounded him with a lot of good pieces, and they should be right there, too.

I mean, they should make the playoff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

What about the ACC?

You said Miami would be your disappointment of the year.

So I assume it's Clemson over someone else.

Yeah, yeah,

I've got,

I think Clemson.

I don't even know who do I have them beating?

Let's see, maybe it's I don't think it's the fighting Belichicks.

It would be great, though, if the fighting Belichicks were to somehow, you know, win like nine or ten games and get to the ACC championship game against Clemson.

Could you guys imagine?

You know, I spent some time with him last week, actually, him and his sons in

Chapel Hill, which was weird.

I got all the Belichicks are there, And

it was a fascinating interview because the sons don't talk a lot.

And Steve is much like his dad.

He doesn't say a whole lot.

And Brian is not like his dad at all.

Like he talks a lot.

So it was kind of fascinating.

They're all back together.

He's got like six, seven grandkids now living there.

But it would be fascinating to me if they make it there.

But I think in the end, I must have Clemson yet playing.

I'll have to look.

I think I do have them play in Louisville for the championship and have Clemson winning um and going pretty far in the playoff too i think so yeah with the belichek thing it's interesting because like i feel like the closer college football season has come the less we're talking about bill belichek which should be one of the biggest storylines in the country once once the games start happening so like how are things looking from a camp perspective in chapel hill yeah it was um

it was well first of all they have like 70 new players it's crazy kind of like west virginia i visited them a few weeks ago and wrote about rich rye they have 74 new players.

I think North Carolina has like 70 or 71 new players.

So you've got a completely new coaching staff, all these new players,

and a similar thing that Rich Ryd told me at West Virginia, which was, I have no effing idea what we're going to look like.

Like, I don't, I can't predict it.

Like, Belichick was similar, right?

It's like, how am I supposed to predict this?

Like, everybody's new, right?

And then a lot of his coaching staff, obviously, his NFL guys, like, his two sons um one of them has never coached in college so that was actually really interesting to like get their perspective on what the difference is and it was it was kind of fascinating to hear them talk about how they're enjoying you know coaching college players because they're showing them like techniques and stuff they've never seen before yeah right i mean they're they're coming they have all these nfl stuff and everything and the players are like wow this is amazing like i've never seen this before um so that was that was really cool they that was That was pretty neat.

But, um, but who knows, who knows how they're going to be?

I mean, you know, and, and when I was down there, somebody asked about their quarterback battle.

They asked Bill Belichick, like, hey, are you ready to name a starter in the quarterback competition?

And like, kind of tongue-in-cheek, he's like, yeah.

We'll get that right over to you guys along with all of our starting lineup.

Yeah, we'll put that out two weeks before the game.

You know, he's still got that.

He's going to love this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

And then the hardest one, the Big 12,

the Conference of Chaos, which I love.

I love that it stays that.

But can you, what was your pick and reasoning?

Yeah, it's,

I don't have good reasoning for any of it, but because the Big 12 is crazy, man.

Like, you never know.

And I was talking to some people at the Big 12 earlier this week.

I'm like, you guys got to lean into this.

We don't know what the hell is going to happen

every weekend.

Like, just lean into

the Conference of Chaos, man.

Like, the parody in that league is like no other power conference um league but anyway i picked baylor actually to win it all um

and um just so happens about a month ago i went down there and spent some time with dave oranda and those guys but um

i think i think they've got you know he's got returning um quarterback and i think he's got enough pieces from the portal they had a big portal year they got 23 players out of the portal they had not gotten 25 players i think out of the portal the last three years

they started to really realize we've got to plug some holes here.

And then he's kind of overhauling the defense.

You know, he's Mr.

Mastermind, and he's sort of overhauling the defense.

And I just kind of have trust he's going to sort of put the pieces in

the right place to sort of get it done.

I actually have them

beating Iowa State

for the championship,

which, you know, obviously Iowa State just

pulled off the win in Ireland against Kansas State in a typical sort of Big 12 fashion game, right?

Crazy, ugly at the end.

Anybody can win,

exciting sort of

contest.

What about Rich Rod?

What was it like spending time with him?

Because he's a fascinating guy.

And his whole story about his journey from West Virginia to where he is now, full circle, it's fascinating.

So, what was he like as a guy?

Yeah, like, and I go back a few years with him, and it was great getting time, spending time with him.

He's,

you know, he's still that

guy that is just, even though he's 62, it's kind of like he's that guy that was there when he was in his 30s and 40s at West Virginia.

He's yelling at players like crazy.

He's going non-stop.

You know, he's working like 18, 20 hours a day.

I mean,

he's grinding, man.

And it was fun sort of to follow him around

and hear about kind of the emotional side of this.

I mean,

this whole move for him has a real lot of emotions to it.

I mean, he was, when he left there, they hated him, right?

They like, they turned on one of their own.

And to them, to the fan base there and the people of that state,

he turned, one of their own turned on them by leaving and leaving sort of the way he did.

And so nobody ever thought, right, that he would dare come back or be allowed back.

to come to come back to Morgantown.

And so it's sort of this reunion of

a fan base and a state.

They got 1.8 million people in the state of West Virginia, right?

It's tiny.

They're a pretty fairly poor state.

They have zero billionaires in the state.

Like there's only like five other states in the U.S.

that have zero billionaires.

West Virginia is one of them.

And so

they're this state that no pro sports, right?

Everything is West Virginia football.

And everything for so long was Richrod.

And when he left, and I have a part of the story was

he's from a little town called Granttown, and it's like a 40-minute drive south of Morgantown.

And I went there, and guys, it's unbelievable.

Like you, you drive through the town in about two and a half minutes.

I mean, it's

tiny.

It's got 550 people in it.

It's an old mining town.

When the mine was shut down

like 50 years ago, basically the town lost like almost all of its population and schools closed and all the all the restaurants closed.

There's nothing.

There's nothing there except homes.

It's a community center and a city hall that closes at 3 p.m.

every day.

So it's crazy.

So I went back there and there was a sign, you know, in, you know, welcome to Granttown.

And below it was home of Rich Rodriguez.

Well, that sign when he left from Michigan was not just like torn off that its post, but it was like vandalized and like thrown somewhere into the river, right, the nearby river.

And my part of the story is when he got rehired and when he had this emotional outpouring at the press conference where he basically said, I regret leaving.

I should have never left here.

They put the sign back up, a new sign, but they put the sign back up.

You know, and it's like, it's sort of emblematic of the state in general:

he has

come back

to sort of try to restore the glory.

He's sort of sorry for the way he left and for leaving, and we forgive him but as somebody there told me um they'll forgive him now but you got to win yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a cool story what so you you go everywhere which is awesome uh what's your favorite facility in in the country what's the one that still impresses you where like man this is they're they're doing it at a different level like like just like football facility yeah yeah football facility yeah

um

i got some tours the last couple years of some brand new facilities that are just unbelievable.

Like the Georgia, Georgia's new facility, a football facility is crazy.

In fact, it's funny.

This is a funny story.

So this is like three years ago they opened their facility.

They toured me around.

And at the end of the tour, I had an interview with Kirby Smart.

So I'll walk into Kirby's office and I'm like, dude, this facility is unbelievable.

Like, I mean, it's better than any NFL facility I've ever seen.

And he looked at me and he said, well, that's what happens when they won't let us pay the players.

Yep.

So now we're in this rev share world, right?

Where legally

they finally get to pay the players.

But Georgia sticks out in Nebraska's, I got a tour of that last year.

That's a facility that opened this past year.

It's also just stunning as well.

I got a tour of Clemson's non-football facility.

Clemson opened a facility that's just as good as any football facility I've ever seen, but it's for all the other sports.

It's for all their like Olympic sports.

Yeah.

And it is stunning as well.

So

I told the people at Clemson, I'm like, you guys open this at the right time because, you know, right now, a lot of people are pausing facility upgrades to, because they're right having to pay the players.

So

all the schools who did, who upgraded their facility like in the last three to five years sort of have this advantage.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, you're right.

For a while, it was like, we can't pay players.

We can put it in a third barber chair.

Yeah, this

or a waterfall.

Yeah, a nap pod.

This will become the difference.

Yeah.

No, it's it's interesting when you look at like the behind-the-scenes stuff and how you know they decorate things, how they lay them out.

Which coach has the least decorated office, like the plainest office?

Because I like those coaches that work in the middle of the castle, but then you go into the room where they actually work and it's like something their wife gave them to hang up on the wall.

That's like leaning against the wall in the corner.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think here.

So, um, you know, well, I was just talking about going to Penn State.

I didn't go into James Franklin's office, but I went into, again, Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator.

Man, and there's nothing there, right?

There's nothing in his office.

And he's like typical, like, old school defensive coordinator guy.

I love that.

Right.

From Philly.

And there's like, yeah, there's, there's nothing in his office except X's and O papers and like a dry erase board in the corner with a bunch of like X's and O's, right?

And schematics and play calls and things like that.

I mean, he's he's football guy

through and through, football guy.

Yeah.

All right, Ross, this has been awesome.

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We've danced around it.

Who's your national champion?

Yes.

I was waiting for you guys to ask this.

I don't feel great about it.

I don't feel great about any pick or prediction because we're predicting 19, 20, and 21-year-olds.

But I picked Penn State to win it all.

Oh.

This is the year.

You did.

Yeah.

And I actually picked them to beat.

I think I have the championship game, them beating LSU

for all the Marvels.

So I think maybe it's Penn State's year.

They've got a veteran quarterback who seems to.

have a lot of motivation and has improved in the offseason.

And they've got a defense run by

one of the better defensive coordinators in the country with, I think it's five or six players returned from last year who would have been drafted in the first two rounds, right?

So they're pretty stocked and

locked and loaded.

All right.

Group of five representation in the college football playoff.

Is it Boise State?

Yeah, it's hard not to say Boise State.

You know,

I think that's

who I ended up picking.

But keep an eye on that John Sommerall and Tulane down there, man.

You know,

they're doing big things down there.

He's had a lot of success.

Obviously, losing their quarterback,

Darien Minta, to Duke wasn't great.

But yeah, it's hard to not pick Boise

in that race.

Yeah, cool.

Ross, thank you so much.

We'll see what the future holds for Ohio State Barstool.

Again, I don't know if you, in your reporting, you know that they did ban the show, our show.

Yeah.

Like, so that part is true.

And I know that

we can do semantics about Dave being in stadiums, but they did not allow us to do the show on campus on Saturday to kick out.

So where are y'all doing the show?

We're going to do studio first week, and then the next week we'll be on the road.

Okay.

Okay.

We'll see.

You know where you're going this season?

Do you plot out beforehand?

It's big noon.

It's whatever big noon decides.

So we'll join them for six of the week Saturdays in the fall, which we're excited for.

We're very excited for.

It's going to be a lot of of fun, but I don't think we'll be going to Columbus.

So Connor Stallions is going to get in Dave Portnoy into the stadium someway, isn't he?

Yeah.

Yeah, he said he wanted tickets.

Yeah.

It's part of the KGB.

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We got FAQs.

FAQs.

FAQs.

For listeners.

FAQs.

Let's do it.

Do you ever listen back to episodes of the show on the day they drop?

Or how often do you revisit old interviews/slash episodes?

No, I don't.

I'll check in sometime.

If somebody's like, hey, the audio's messed up, then I'll drop in on the episode.

I'll listen to it.

But no, I don't particularly like hearing the sound of my own voice.

Yeah, I don't either.

I also,

every now and then, like if something, yeah, if something's fucked up, I'll go listen.

And then I just, I feel like I've forgotten everything.

I think I told this story, I've even forgotten this story, that I was on Waddle and Sylvie, my guy's ESPN 1000, and we were talking about Joe Kim or Tibbs.

And I was like, yeah, he got, his office got bugged his last days in Chicago.

And they're like, we never heard that story.

And then they googled it, and it was just me asking Joe Kim Noah that.

So I was reporting a story that came from this podcast as confidently factual information.

Sometimes I re-watch the clips.

So if there's like a time when Max gets really mad and I feel like

I didn't get the best angle on it from this seat, I watch back to see the video of that.

Not that Max would ever get mad.

Audio is also not bad that often.

No, it's not.

No, I'm saying like, but sometimes there'll be somebody that says, hey, the audio sounds bad in this one part, so I'll just check in.

Or if like Hank falls asleep during the show, I don't catch it, I'll go back, watch the clip of that.

Yeah, it's also funny watching

like you watch one clip in your whole life, maybe two.

Well, I said if that happens, I watch, I watch, uh, it's always interesting when I see old clips pop up of like the old studios.

That, that always, like, our first, first studio that was just a shared studio that was just bare walls.

It's like, damn, this is cool.

We've come pretty far away.

Sometimes if I felt like I was being gaslit by you guys, and then I wake up, I like try and go back and hear what the listeners are listening to and and then see if I was right and I was delusional and how often are you right 50 50.

okay max you watch back your own clips never literally never

and people have been resurfacing like the

the Phillies one just keeps coming

I can't scroll past it quicker oh I love that clip so much I look ridiculous

All right.

At what age do you have to take down the second TV in the living room?

Oh, I'm 27 years old.

I got a second TV hung up so my fiancé can watch a reality show with Bluetooth headphones while I watch Red Zone and we still hang out together.

It's slowly turned into a second TV for me, and now I have one main game and the Octobox going all at once.

At what point do I have to take down the second TV?

You got to get a third TV.

Yeah, you got to even it out.

That's all it is.

It's not that the second TV is not the problem.

Well, it is a problem in the fact that it looks weird, so then you got to get the third TV.

You either got to go one on top, two on the bottom that are smaller, or one in the middle, two on the side.

And you got to make it look classy.

You can't have the second TV be free.

You can't make it look classy in the living room.

No, you've got to go from dive bar to chilies.

You don't even have second TV in your living room.

I have, in my living room, I have one TV, but then in my basement, I have five.

But the living room.

At what age do you have to take on the second TV in the living room?

I guess this is the question of do you just have a living room or do you have like a family room or a secondary room?

Because if you just have the one room, I don't think you ever, if it's like an apartment or a condo, I don't think you ever really have to take that down.

If it's a house, then you just have to migrate the second TVs to the auxiliary rooms, like a basement or a family room.

Let's say they don't have auxiliary rooms.

In Brooklyn, I always had three TVs in the living room.

But when you get a little more space, you have a basement, you can make the TVs rooms spread out.

For argument's sake, there's no second room.

You got to have three TVs.

You got to go to the third.

And then you got to go to the fourth and then the fifth because you got to keep it even.

Actually, you got to keep it odd.

I've been so

I'm not supposed to have a second TV in my living room, but I've been looking into getting a

you could say you are supposed to for work.

Correct.

Yeah.

But I've been looking into it.

We're like the only people who can actually justify like having a Chili's in our living room.

But have you seen like these wireless TVs that they have that like it's on like a stand that you can roll around?

Do you want one?

Do you have one?

Yeah.

Wait, so you're are you saying that you're going to basically be like a substitute teacher?

Yeah.

Yes.

With a TV?

Correct.

Because my guest room doesn't have a TV in it right now.

So I was going to be like, oh, I got a TV for the guest room.

So when people are over, just so I can roll it out when I really need to watch a second game.

Yeah.

But then I can roll it back after the fact.

I got you, man.

You have an extra.

That would be awesome.

Yeah, I bought it for like.

Thinking like if I was going to watch

a college football game on my balcony, never.

It's happened like twice, and the connection sucks and there's spiders and there's spiders lots of spiders yeah how's the how's the uh ice maker going great

yeah yeah have you made ice recently yeah i did for uh i should have gave you i should have i should have cubed you up at the air and water show well you did tell me at the air and water show you said do you guys want to have some ice and then you went to the kitchen then you came back and said okay it'll be ready in eight hours yeah oh yeah i was i would i was uncubed but that that

what if i come back to your apartment

it came out it was a good batch i said what if i come back to your apartment after the MMA fights, UFC, and then you're like, no, that's actually too long.

I won't have ice anymore.

We missed the window.

You have like a one-hour window to get your cube out.

Yeah, no, I got some cubes.

Again, like, I don't drink at my house.

Like, I don't make drinks or cocktails in my house.

So that's where it's like maybe

was a bad investment, but the cubes themselves, phenomenal.

Yeah.

Okay.

Hey, guys, I know you said Mr.

Perry would pick every NFL game, but from an outsider's perspective, you guys take phenomenal care for him, but he's he slashy he deserves to be with other turtles outside the office, and you should unadopt him.

Thoughts.

I've thought about that.

Mr.

Pear's depressed.

Yeah, so we have a little bit of a Mr.

Pear problem.

We

added some desks.

Hank took Mr.

Pear's seat.

Yeah, Hank's desked up.

We have

a turtle that I think needs a rehoming, and we need an AWL to step up,

be the parent that stepped up, the dad that stepped up, and take Mr.

Pear.

And then that way we can, you know, maybe you can send memes some like, you know,

proof of life videos every now and then being like, hey, doing well.

So if anyone in the Chicago area is looking for

once gambling turtle,

let us know.

If you have a farm upstate.

I just realized my kids like Mr.

Pear, so that's going to be a tough one.

He's all yours.

Do they want him?

No, no, no, no.

God, no.

I don't want a pear.

Or a turtle.

Why?

You can watch your five TVs.

Because I don't want, I have enough shit I have to worry about in my life.

I don't need a turtle.

It's a good experience for the kids.

Stop this.

Very easy to take care of.

Stop this.

I will just tell them that Mr.

Pear sucked at picking games and we had to shoot him in the back of the head.

It's an easy conversation.

Memes, as the guy that really looked after Mr.

Pear the most, are you going to miss him?

Oh, yeah.

You should take him.

No, my farm is not big enough.

I'm not going to miss him that much.

Yeah, no.

All right, so yeah, please.

You can own a

I'm not going to like a D-list turtle.

Yeah, that's being generous.

I don't know.

Name a more famous turtle.

Squirtle?

No, like real-life turtle.

Raphael.

You like that?

Raphael?

Leonardo.

That's good pool.

Michelangelo.

The guy in Galapagos?

Lonesome George R.I.P.

Yeah.

I mushman.

Oh, yeah.

Remember

the day I was supposed to meet Lonesome George, the oldest living thing on planet Earth?

He died.

Teddy Bridgewater.

Franklin.

Yeah.

You guys, Lonesome.

Yeah, you guys just keep naming turtles that don't exist.

Donatello.

Donatello?

Doesn't exist.

Exactly.

What about Shredder?

Shredder is not a turtle.

Oh, my God.

You fucking

I didn't watch it.

I didn't watch it.

Yoshi.

Yoshi?

Yeah.

Yoshi's a turtle?

Yoshi's dinosaur.

He's a dinosaur, yeah.

But there are turtles in Mario.

Oh, yeah.

The

turtle shell.

The blue turtle shell sucks.

Great game.

No, that's a blur shell rocks.

It sucks.

That's because probably you're playing from behind.

I thought you didn't play Mario Kart.

I did play Zelda.

No.

Wrong.

I said I didn't play Mario Kart N64, and then it it got better

I played Mario Kart on Wii all you guys playing Mario Kart with your friends we're done with N64 talk okay

so we needed someone to please adopt Mr.

Pear hit up memes hit me up and then Zach's gonna dress up as a turtle in the fall and pick games and also

maybe PM TV uh

Zach and memes you gotta do like uh like adoption interviews make sure that the person is a good parent

A couple people?

No?

Whoever wants it.

Is there like a turtle rescue place?

Yeah, they're not accepting resistance.

We looked into that.

Oh, they aren't at all.

How are they a turtle rescue place?

They're not accepting turtles.

That's a reptile rescue, but the only reptile they do not accept is turtles because of the amount of inquiries that they get.

It's not a turtle.

A lot of these places either have turtle policies or, since he's a Russian tortoise, he's considered an exotic and a non-native species.

So a lot of policies preventing Mr.

Pear from going to Portal shelters.

Wait, you guys looked into this?

Yeah.

We had a pet.

Memes didn't know.

I don't think, yeah, memes.

We kind of made the decision before you even came in yesterday.

Zach, what if you took Mr.

Pear with you next time you went to Florida?

I can't have any pets at my apartment.

I'm not sure.

I could try to travel with a Russian tortoise, so I just don't know if he would survive the heat.

I also feel like Florida is also not Russia.

He would die in the Everglades.

Florida is not Russia.

Good point, Max.

Zach goes to Russia?

That'd be a popular video.

Good video just to drop off a turtle?

How about Operation Pear Drop?

And we fly a small drone over Russia and then drop him out in a little plastic turtle parachute.

So you could do it from the flight sim.

Oh, I could.

Yeah.

I have two questions.

Are you going to do another life episode?

They're some of the best all-time episodes.

And have you thought about adding another Blake?

Relegation may have to be in the cards after Brooke's performance last few years.

I mean, he's preparing for...

He's out of the country.

Yeah, it's not not a major championship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Scheduling issue.

Somewhat of a, you got to give him some slack.

We can overlook Blake's tardiness in that he's the time difference is huge too.

Not only is he preparing for a tournament, but he's also like overseas every year.

We got to figure out a way to make it even.

Yeah, we could just do it not last minute.

That's true.

Like we always do.

That would be nice of us.

Blake Griffin, like, he's great at answering his phone.

Yeah.

Life episode, we should do another one.

Maybe we get Russilla and Titus here and we can do one.

Maybe for,

maybe we throw one in, yeah, like one of our breaks.

That would be good.

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No.

I did see that screen chat.

Three was up there.

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What do you guys got?

I'll take 90.

22.

I forget.

I'll take 100.

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Maybe.

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