NFL Preview With Mike Florio, Mt Rushmore Of Hall Of Very Good, Tommy Fleetwood Wins The Big One And Who's Back Of The Week

Hey, Pardon My Take listeners.

You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube.

Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.

On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good, good friend Mike Florio on the show to get us ready for the NFL season.

It's football week for real, for real, this week.

We're going to do our college football preview on Wednesday with Brandon and Tom Ferneli.

Today, we have the Mount Rushmore of Hall Hall of Very Good.

So the Hall of Very Good, which should be fun.

There should be a Hall of Very Good.

Yeah, there should be a Hall of Very Good.

We're going to make one today.

I like it.

We have Tommy Fleetwood winning the Tor Championship.

We have some NFL news.

We're getting ready for the start of football.

Couldn't be more excited.

We have Who's Back, and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings.

Touchdowns are coming.

Are you ready?

The NFL season is almost here, and the DraftKings Sportsbook is your ultimate destination to bet on every big play.

As an official sports betting partner of the NFL, DraftKings is where touchdowns can turn into payouts all season long.

DraftKings Sportsbook delivers non-stop NFL thrills.

Whether you're chasing a first touchdown score, hitting anytime TD props, or riding the wave with live in-game betting, every play becomes a shot to win big.

New customers, bet just $5 and instantly get $300 in bonus bets.

Plus, score over $200 of NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV so you can catch even more touchdowns every Sunday.

Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app.

Use code TAKE.

That's code TAKE to get $300 in bonus bets instantly when you place your first $5 bet plus over $200 off NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV in partnership with DraftKings.

The crown is yours.

Gambling problem?

Call 1-800-GAMBLER.

In New York, call 877-8 Hope and Y or text Hope and Y-467-369.

In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling.

Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org.

Please play responsibly on behalf of Booth Hill Casino in Resorting, Kansas.

Fees may apply in Illinois.

21 and over.

Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction.

Boyden, Ontario.

Bonus bets expire seven days after issuance.

For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co/slash audio.

Okay,

let's go.

of my take.

Yeah,

part of my take.

Yeah.

Martin My Take.

Yeah.

Martin My Take.

Yeah.

More than my Take.

Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings.

Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code TAKE.

That's code TAKE to get $300 in bonus bets.

instantly when you place your first $5 bet plus over $200 off NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV in partnership with DraftKings, the crown is yours.

Today is Monday, August 25th, and Tommy Fleetwood has won the big one.

Tommy did it, guys.

He won the biggest one.

Basically, the fifth major.

I would say it's all the majors combined.

It's the tour champion.

That's why it's the fifth.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's an aggregate of all the majors.

Yeah.

So he is the biggest golf winner of the year.

He did it via the USA rugby method.

Yes.

Finishing almost first so many times and then finally closing it out at the end.

It was an incredible Sunday.

Obviously, this podcast, if you listen to it, shout out all the AWLs who rode along.

Rob with two Bs, San Jose State's number one fan, sent us an email, not AI, on Sunday night.

We read it out loud on this show.

We all bet Tommy Fleetwood 16 to 1.

Rob,

all-time email by Rob, and also he explained it after, which didn't really make sense to me.

I was corresponding with him.

I gave him a little, I wet the beak a little, gave him a little something for the tip and winning the bet.

But

he said he was at the gym and he thought he saw an AI Najee Harris, and then he was on the Stair Master trying me hardest.

Wait, you do it better than me.

You're trying me hardest.

Yeah, he was doing that.

Doesn't every Najee Harris have AI?

Yes, that's true.

When you think about it, that's true.

Is that Jerry O'Connell?

Just put the last right here in there.

Yeah, yeah.

So he then

was on this Stairmaster.

Trying me hottest.

And he was like, you know what?

I think Tommy Fleet was going to win and also had AI on his brain.

So that's why he emailed us.

Specified that it was not AI.

Yeah, he said, Tommy will win this week and win the FedEx Cup.

Take it.

This is not AI, Hank.

Yeah, I just thought it would be funny if Tommy, having been the guy that could never win, was finally able to win and ended up winning the entire season.

The guy emails Max out of AI.

He too.

He emailed me.

I missed that.

I saw it too.

I went back and I saw, I think he emailed everybody on this podcast.

Yeah.

But shout out Rob.

And shout out Max for bringing HRC.

And shout out Max.

It pushed us over the edge.

Betting on Tommy Fleetwood.

I don't know about you guys.

I didn't feel safe until I think it was after Cantley missed his chip on 18 for Eagle.

That's when I finally was able to breathe out a little bit.

Yeah, I was just watching, being like, this has.

Listen, Tommy Fleetwood, incredible story.

It's proven record that he has no clutch gene.

He has a little bit of one now, even though he was up three strokes, but like coming up to 15 where Scotty Scheffler, who was red hot, a big problem, went in the water.

I was like, this is going to be a disaster.

Keegan Bradley went in the water there.

I was like, this is going to be a disaster.

He's going to go in the water.

This is going to all fall apart.

But Tommy Fleetwood did it.

He did it.

I don't know about you guys, but Scotty, watching Scotty today, I was very afraid of Scotty.

Oh,

and you could tell he was feeling himself.

He was doing even more weird things with his feet.

Yeah.

All-time foot day from Scotty Scheffler today.

He like somehow committed a traveling violation when he was swinging a golf club on every shot.

And then when he went in the water, I was like, okay, I think we're probably all right.

But he looked like he was putting something together to put some pressure on Tommy going down to the end.

And yeah, Tommy, he played good in the final round.

Yeah, he did.

He didn't really fuck anything up too bad.

No, he had a couple, he had that one bad drive on what was a 10.

And listen, people are going to say, hey, it's a 30-player

field.

Sorry.

Thank you, you, Hank, our golf expert.

This doesn't really mean anything because Scotty Scheffler was the best golfer this year.

He had already won the big prize, right?

And also, if they had done the,

did you guys see if they had done the previous scoring, which how they used to do this tournament, if you were the best golfer, you're the number one golfer, you were started like minus 10 and corresponding.

If they had done what they had done in the past,

Tommy Fleetwood would have lost by one stroke.

Oh, my God.

Which would have have been devastating.

That would have been terrible.

It was also nice to see every other golfer be like, thank God, Tommy won.

Yeah, Justin Rose.

They're all rooting for him.

Scotty, he seemed to be happy, too.

Everyone seemed to be genuinely happy for Tommy Fleetwood.

LeBron was very pumped for him.

LeBron was so pumped.

I was nervous LeBron was going to jinx us.

Also, locked in on golf.

Henry Lockwood and Skip Bayless, two minds that think very much alike.

I don't know if you saw, but Skip basically stole Hank's take.

That's how you know Hank is in rare form

when he has it.

Let me pull up the exact.

Oh, I did see this.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

LeBron, shouldn't you be in the lab working on your free throws instead of wasting your time watching your new obsession golf?

It's a good point.

That literally was just a bar-for-bar stolen take from Hank from last week.

He makes a great point.

Great.

I find myself agreeing with Skip Bayless more and more the older I get.

Not Hank, though.

Not Hank.

When Skip says it, it's got some cachet that Hank doesn't really bring.

But if Spanks, but when Skip says something, I'm like, you know what?

Hank was right.

Yeah, he was.

You were right, Hank.

Thank you.

LeBron was a little too obsessed with it.

I'm excited for Tommy, though.

I mean, he's an all-time guy.

It feels like he's one of the best guys on tour.

He always faces the music.

He always gets in front of the media.

What were you going to say?

I'll let you finish.

He's just...

He got his brains beat in year after year.

Really good golfer who could never win a tournament.

And then he finally did it on the biggest stage.

And most importantly for us.

Counter-argument now.

He's Ryder Cup.

He's the enemy.

Yeah, of course.

And he's always been good in the Ryder Cup because he's got his teammates.

He can't win the big one.

Can't win the big one.

Yeah.

Now I think he is a better golfer than a human being.

Before today, Tommy Fleetwood was as good a golfer as he is, even better human being.

Yeah.

Not anymore.

And it was cool because it was also like, it felt like everyone was rooting for him in this moment.

it was it's always fun to have these sports moments where maybe the cynicism dies for a second and we're all like hey you know what this would be cool if tommy fleet would actually did this i also think a big part of everybody rooting for tommy was the fact that the pga paired him up with patrick cantlay the worst in the final round and everybody was just like this motherfucker you sent your cooler out there oh just try the scores that was just the scores what Nah, they probably said, let's get Cantlay out there.

The PGA.

No, they didn't.

No, no, no, that's not how they do it.

You don't understand how they make it.

They they don't do it that way.

You don't know golf.

They wanted Can Lay to keep this storyline going.

Wasn't Caleb tied with somebody?

Yeah, but it's where you come in the clubhouse.

That was the correct.

We all knew that if Can Lay was tied with anybody, he was going to be the guy that got matched up with him.

Yeah.

And

his fat ass and his slow shots.

God damn it.

But counterpoint.

Actually, no, he's not going to be on the team.

Never mind.

What?

He's on the team.

No, he's not going to be on the team.

Good.

Is Keegan going to pick himself?

That's the big bugaboo.

I hope he does.

I feel like he's not going to.

Okay.

Why do you believe he does?

Because it would just be awesome.

And Keegan's awesome.

Okay.

Like, yeah, call your own number.

He is Captain America.

Like, he will get the people fired up.

He's playing good golf.

Like, if he's not, you know, he's not qualified, but he's, what, three or four people off?

Like, that's not a huge difference.

Yeah.

And he's...

That'd just be the great.

It'd be a great story.

Hank, are you going to be run for America or for Europe?

America.

Are you sure?

Sure.

Yes.

Because

it was an off it was an off-the-pod conversation so if you want us to delete this hank we can this is just this is me rooting for america i'm concerned for america you were looking at the potential lineup and just being like oh we're gonna get killed oh no so are you gonna bet you're gonna bet on america i will bet america are you gonna also bet more money on europe no

do you want to would you if you were if we're in international waters europe is underdog right now in the draft king sports book oh he's i don't know know.

I'm not going to.

I'm not going to.

Yes, you are.

I'm America.

I'm America through and through.

Red, red, and blue runs through these veins.

So does England.

I kind of want you to bet.

The UK.

I can't.

It'd be great.

I can't.

But if you won, you'd get to dunk on us.

I can't.

Henedict Arnold.

I can't.

I can't.

You won't.

I won't.

So we're closing the book on Tommy unless he comes on the pod this week.

But he's now the enemy.

I look at him now.

Yeah, it's coming until Wednesday.

I look at him now as being like, I don't really trust you, but I respect you.

As of Wednesday, I'm going to be in full-on fuck Tommy Fleetwood.

I'm seeing a couple predictions saying that Canton Lay may be on the team.

Uh-oh.

Fuck that.

They had like three likes on Canter.

Kantlay is not

Keegan.

Kantley is and Keegan's not.

Should we want him on the team to cool

Europe down?

To go

as slow as slow could be.

That's why I kind of liked it when Patrick Reed was on the Ryder Cup team.

It's like, let's send our biggest dickhead out there.

Yeah, just piss them off.

Yeah, piss them off.

Get in their heads.

But it was fun.

It was fun.

Tommy Fleetwood, what a bet.

Rob with two B's.

Shout out.

And all the AWLs who followed and listened to the show.

Pays to listen to this show.

16 to 1.

Because we lose a lot.

But that one was fun.

It did feel like one of those bets that we were.

I was dreading.

having to watch Tommy Fleetwood play weekend golf all week.

Yeah.

I was like, I can't believe that this is happening to me.

Also, shout out to Tom Fernelli, who for like the first time ever did not bet on Tommy Fleetwood because he learned his lesson last week.

That's the crazy part is we, like, I don't know about you guys.

I don't think I've ever bet Tommy Fleetwood.

No, no.

This was our first experience, and it was a great one.

We timed the Tommy Fleetwood market.

Yeah.

The only people in the world, I think, that were able to do that.

Yeah.

I agree with you.

The experience.

So the

Tron Carter from No Laying Up, I started DMing with him because he's like the biggest Tommy Fleetwood fan.

He flew for today just to be there.

That's ride or die.

And I was like, what are we expecting here?

Like, Kev, talk me through this.

And he's like, if he can have a lead on Sunday, I think this is the one he can actually win.

Because the whole time in the back of my head, I was like, Saturday's going to be fine.

Sunday is where it's going to suck.

And it looked like things were going bad on Saturday.

And I forget which announcer.

I don't think it was Smiley that was saying this, but when Tommy went...

Kisner, maybe?

Maybe Kisner.

Colt Nost.

When Tommy went into the water on 15 on Saturday, and then he high-fived all the fans that were lined up going up to the drop zone, and the announcers just creamed themselves on that.

To me, I was thinking, like, this is

loser behavior by Tommy.

They're like, look how nice he's being to all the fans that are out there.

If you think that like Scotty or Tiger would ever take a moment to high-five fans after going in the water on a massive tournament that they were winning, you're insane.

But it worked for Tommy.

Yeah.

Good guy.

Great guy.

Great guy.

And

you said you weren't,

didn't feel safe till 18.

i actually felt safe i think going after 16 because he was up three with two to play and at that point i think i texted everyone i was like at least we got our money's worth because it's either we win the money or it's an all-time all-time choke that would be so funny to be mad about and yeah like we earned it at that point yeah like if it was tied going into 18 and he lost we couldn't complain that much right if he lost up three with two strokes there was a part of me i wanted to win the bet but a part of me was like this would be so fucking funny.

Yeah, we tailed an email, a random email that we got, and it led us to betting on the guy who's known for losing tournaments on Sunday.

Then we got to experience the

most like concentrated version of that Tommy Fleetwood.

That would have been kind of interesting.

We learned a lesson for sure with that one.

Also, shout out Tommy Fleetwood's adult stepson.

Yes.

See, they came out and congratulated him.

I think the first person.

Yes.

They said, like, hey, just so you know, that's the stepson that's out there.

I think they're the same age.

Dude, having an adult stepson stepson would be so much fun.

It would be cool.

Just having a, like, he has to be your friend.

Yeah.

If you've been a good stepfather, you just have an automatic friend.

I also think Tommy Fleetwood might be the best stepdad ever.

Yeah.

Like, my stepdad kicks ass.

He's really.

He's stepped up.

Yeah, he's great at golf.

Yeah, we should all get adult stepsons.

Because I guess Zach kind of is our adult stepson.

Yeah.

When you think about it.

I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I have multiple adult steps.

I have Stephen Shea, I have Zach, I have Jerry.

You kind of collect them.

I have a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why I'm so drawn to adult stepsons.

I've been in the adult stepson business for a while now.

The sons of the Rico.

Yeah, I like having adult stepson.

Also, shout out that

the

guy.

What do you call it?

Spotter.

Spotter.

There it is.

All-time hustle clip.

Just an incredible, just sprinting.

This dude was sprinting, and I'm pretty sure the ball was very much in sight the whole time.

Yeah.

It wasn't like a deep woods shot.

He was also weaving in at a FedEx Cup.

Yeah.

It's the biggest one.

It's the biggest tournament you could possibly win.

Except for the Ryder Cup.

I have a Mike Greenberg's dumb trade for the Ryder Cup.

Oh, just based off name and look.

Okay.

Harris English.

Yep.

Matt Fitzpatrick.

Matt Fitzpatrick's too English.

Yeah, he's very British.

But Harris English, I agree we should get rid of.

We'll take John Rahm.

John Rahm is ASU.

He went to ASU.

That's as American as it gets.

Yeah, I think John Rahm would be the one we want to get.

And also, like, Spain.

Come on.

It's not England.

Yeah, it's not.

Yeah, Harris English.

Seeing that name everywhere.

100% no.

We got that fact right.

Spain is not England.

Yeah.

Harris English, yo, he's got to go.

Yeah.

But he's automatically on.

The spotter was just so fast.

Like, he got under that rope.

He weaved in between two cars.

He looked ridiculous.

He started pushing people out of the way.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

This was memes at

Camp Barstall.

Yeah.

Did we ever get the explanation for that?

For people who watch Camp Barstall, there was a relay race, and Mincy had to run in one of the...

No, it was KB who was running in the leg of the relay race.

And Memes wasn't even filming.

He just decided to sprint his ass off next to KB.

I don't know if you saw this clip, PFT, but it was...

It made no sense.

I had to get to the other side.

For what?

I was filming social.

But you weren't filming when you were running.

You were just like, I'm going to be.

Oh, he was so fast.

I couldn't do it.

So

you were going to film maybe did you think you were gonna beat him

uh so the the original plan try and beat him off the jump yeah you did yeah the original plan was because mincy was so slow we were like all right we should have somebody down there

like get to the other side as fast as possible like maybe could outrun him so you could film

yeah watch watch this what watch this uh pft kb's running so kb's taking the baton yeah he's running you're like oh oh and there's memes he looks like that ref look at me

He's just going so fast through the woods.

DK Metcalf.

Yeah, what were you doing?

I had to get to the other shot.

You were chasing him.

You were chasing Kyle.

It's also always shocking when Memes does something athletic because when he's just like in non-athlete mode, when he's just, you know, walking around the office, hanging out, he doesn't move like an athlete.

But the second he has to do something sporty, it's like, oh, fuck, where'd that come from, memes?

Yeah, he's D1 athlete.

Yeah.

All-American.

No, not D1 athlete.

D2?

D3.

D3 athlete.

He's played D2 for a little.

Can I tell you something that

I was...

Could have played D1.

Yeah, he could have played D1.

I was with my friends this afternoon.

We got

my college friends and all of our families, nine kids.

It was too many kids just in a backyard.

And one of my friends was just like, we were just shooting the shit.

And he was just like...

That memes guy is crazy.

It was out of nowhere, too.

And I was like, yeah, he is.

He's like,

you got to watch out for him.

I was like, yeah, we do.

He's a little bit daddy.

It was so funny.

It was just out of nowhere.

Like, not, we weren't really talking about it.

He's just like, yeah, that memes guy, man.

Watch out for him.

He's, like, almost warning me for, like, being a good friend that I've known for 20 years, being like, hey, I want you to be safe.

Like, when you go to work, like, steer clear of that memes guy.

Well, that's crazy, but.

I mean, you've tried to fight like everyone in this room.

You said that you were going to blow yourself up.

Yeah.

No, no.

I've watched you ball your fist against myself, against Hank, Max.

I've watched that happen.

What was my name in your contact for a while?

Henemy.

What is that?

Yeah, I remember the time when you kind of stepped to me.

I was like, shit, man, is he going to punch me?

No.

I like it, though.

It's a good, it's what we need on this show.

We need one person who's just mad at the world and will sprint after Kyle.

Enemy is insane.

Heneme is so funny.

What'd you do, Hank?

Nothing existed.

Can't exist.

If the Jets ever get good, I'll be happy.

Okay.

We'll have to do that.

Yeah, but then you'll be like, I remember everybody that talked shit about the Jets on the way up.

Yeah.

Fuck you guys.

Pull up, Billy.

Say, I feel bad for you guys.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Man, I think I should write a whole chapter on that.

All right, other sports news.

Hank, question for you.

Yeah.

I'm assuming you watched all of Iowa State versus Kansas State in Dublin.

No.

Why?

It's football in a foreign country.

That's a good point.

But I was not watching it.

It was the last week of the summer, last Saturday.

Did you watch on the broadcast when the team went around asking people in Ireland, like, what is a touchdown?

And nobody knew anything about it.

Well, that's Ireland.

They haven't been conditioned to football since, you know, 2007.

Did you watch on the broadcast when you could not see any of the

numbers on the field or or anything on the field.

Again, this is Ireland to England.

Big difference.

We all know that.

Do we?

It doesn't really rain in England.

England's been conditioned to football for a long time.

Ireland is new.

Did you watch the opening drive where there was a buff punt and then there was an immediate fumble on a toss on the goal line because it was too wet and the rain was too bad?

I did not.

It's week zero for everyone.

Yeah, it was fun at the end of the game when there was a fourth down.

I think Kansas State was trying to convert it to,

I think they were down three and just had no idea where the ball was because we couldn't see any of the markers.

That was definitely a first down.

Definitely a first down, but I also don't know because I couldn't see anything.

Did you watch that, Hank?

Missed that.

Okay.

Did you watch the starting quarterback of Kansas State's dad fight his son after the game?

I did catch that one.

Okay.

Which, by the way, I have zero problem with that.

The dad whooped his ass.

Yeah, but it's also like

if the dad was fighting another Kansas State fan or an Iowa State fan, that's a problem.

This is just some, they're just having it out as a family.

Yeah.

Like, let them have it.

Ties are like kissing your sister, and losing Pharmageddon is like fighting your dad.

Yeah.

Two grown men related should, should be able to fight like this.

By the way, didn't Ireland already have a Pharmageddon?

In the 1800s?

Yeah.

Nobody could eat potatoes for like a decade.

Yeah.

Everyone came here.

That was England's fault.

That's true.

Everything.

Bad guys.

Bad guys.

What's the Super Bowl there?

I did like watch.

I really enjoyed having football on, though.

Oh, yeah.

It was the best.

It was the best.

And we're going to, like I said at the beginning of the show, but Wednesday is going to be our big college football preview.

We're going to have Brandon Walker versus Tom Fernelli round two.

Brandon Walker is our standing college football expert on this show.

Yep.

He won last year.

One year, one year recurring title.

We're going to have them both in the studio.

We're going to break down the whole thing.

We're going to get everyone ready for week one coming up.

I got a dumb thought, Big Cat.

Yeah.

This is my Prisoner of the Moment of the Week moment.

Oh, I like this.

Jalen Daniels.

Give us a sound.

Prisoner of the week.

Boo-boo-boo.

Okay, Prisoner of the Week of the Week moment.

Prisoner of the Moment of the Week.

Yep.

Why shouldn't I put a future on Jalen Daniels to win Heisman Trophy?

I don't think Kansas is going to win enough games.

Okay.

That would be my.

Okay, can I give you a counterpoint?

Yeah.

His name sounds a lot like Jaden Daniels.

Yes, of course.

It has for his whole life.

I know.

What if it was a combo year?

MVP Heisman.

You can try it.

Jay and Daniels.

Great odds.

They have to.

To win the Heisman, you got to win at least, I'm going to say nine, eight games.

Yeah, so eight games was last year, I think, with Travis Hunter.

Let's take a look at Kansas' schedule.

They play,

so they beat up on Fresno State.

Yep.

They play Wagner.

Okay, win.

That's a win.

They got to go to Missouri.

That's probably a loss.

They're at home against West Virginia.

They could win that.

Cincinnati at home.

Cincinnati's going through some rebuilding.

New stadium.

They like that stadium.

UCF at UCF.

UCF's probably going to be wearing some cool astronaut jerseys or something.

Wagner is really giving me pause, though.

At Texas Tech is a loss.

Okay.

Kansas State.

They're at home, but that's a tough game for them every year.

Yep.

Oklahoma State at home, at Arizona.

Then they play at Iowa State and Utah to finish.

I don't know.

There's a few losses in there.

It's 60 to 1 on the DraftKings Sports book right now.

It's not crazy.

I'll say it.

Yeah, I mean, listen.

That's just him for Heisman.

That's for Jalen Daniels or Heisman.

Kansas is one of those teams.

If they could get to nine or ten wins, like that would be, and he plays.

He's had flashes of it.

Again, this is entirely based on me watching.

And I did see him play a couple times last year, too.

He was just nodding his head.

Big 12.

Big 12.

I forgot Kansas 12.

Wide open.

Wide open.

Travis Hunter played in Big 12.

That's facts.

Good point.

That's facts.

Conference of Heismans.

Do you want to do it?

I think I have to.

I got a couple nickels in my pocket jingling around after Tommy.

Yeah, I mean, he's...

Listen, he's a good.

He's an electric player.

He's been at Kansas forever.

And

when he's healthy, he's awesome.

I just want to make one thing.

This is not our official PMT Heisman pick.

No, I think we'll maybe decide that on Wednesday, but I will have some thoughts that I wanted to throw out to Tom and

Brandon.

But I will be talking about all the good things that Jalen Daniels does this year.

Yeah, do it.

Okay.

Do it.

He's so good.

Did Kansas open their new stadium?

I think they did.

Yeah.

So that has to be a little bit of a bump.

A lot of buzz in Lawrence.

A lot of buzz.

Okay.

Other things we got going on.

We got the final week's preseason

done.

Any notes from it?

No, I didn't really have any notes from it.

Shadur Sanders looked bad, and the internet is a stranger place than I even thought that it was.

The takes are wild.

The Shador takes are crazy out there.

They think that the offensive line is racist.

They think Kevin Stefansky is racist.

They, let's see,

I bookmarked a few of these.

Yeah, Kevin Stefanski is the clearest example of what systemic racism actually looks like.

That's quite a take.

Yeah, there's probably a couple better examples you could use.

Yeah, and also Shador.

I mean, it appears to me, this is from our guy, Robert Little.

It appears to me Coach didn't want Shador to go win the game because he didn't want to hear all the combo about Shador leading a great two-minute drill.

Now, who knows if he would have or not be, or have or not, but Coach didn't want to take that chance.

one of the last memories of him was looking bad so when they bury him it would look justified that's shady untrustworthy behavior so they should let it just let him go

i don't i don't know if that's what happened listen uh the cleveland browns they are willing to overlook a lot of stuff at the quarterback position i think having to do like one or two extra seconds of an interview after a preseason game is not going to impact what the Browns choose to do with their quarterback rotation.

Yeah.

So Kevin Savancy gives Dylan Gabriel easy short routes with max protection, then gives Shador Sanders bullshit plays in an O-line that looks like they just ate a gang of little Debbies.

Fuck you, Brown.

Straight Shador.

That's what an O-line should look like.

Yeah.

I actually think that Kevin Stefanski starting DTR in actual NFL football games is concrete evidence of him not being racist.

Correct.

It's like case closed.

Also, he's a very good coach, one coach of the year.

And it's also, again, we're going to get to this with Florio.

It's not the difference of Shador starting or not it's just where he is in the depth chart right yeah joe flacco is a starter right joe flacco is a starter shador when he plays he's going to not be playing with the starting offensive lineman correct and also

shador was not really doing his line any favors no he was like running backwards he drifts yeah yeah i uh i hope listen i hope that shador is in the league i hope that he plays good for the take six it's great for the take ecosystem we need that the little Debbie singer reminded me, what is the Booger?

What was the resolution?

Oh, it was a resolution you came to?

Yeah, so this, I should have mentioned it.

We'll have Booger on maybe next week.

So I tweeted, today's the day for Tommy Fleetwood.

I don't think Booger knew that we had made the bet.

Thanks for listening, Booger.

And he said, I'll make you a bet

that if Tommy Fleetwood wins, I'll buy your donuts for a month.

And if he loses, you can't eat donuts for a month.

And I said, hey, look, Booger, appreciate it, but why don't we do a different bet?

I don't need you to buy my donuts.

Tommy Fleet was going to win this, and when he does, you have to eat 12 donuts on PMT.

I like that.

So he now has to eat 12 donuts on PMT, and I will have the footage of him being a fat fuck that every single time he tweets mean things to me, I'm just going to be like, hey, Booger, here's you stuffing your face with donuts.

Isn't Booger eating 12 donuts during an interview going to make you insanely jealous?

I'll probably have my own donuts.

Okay, yeah.

Victory.

No, I mean, I'll just accompany him.

You think you could eat 12 donuts?

No, no, I'm not going to eat 12.

No, I know.

That's hard.

Yeah, no, it's going to be difficult.

I think we'll, I don't know what we're going to do.

Maybe we'll do.

I was thinking about it.

Maybe we'll have him on next week and we'll have him picture in a picture because it won't be good podcasting for him to eat into the mic.

So picture in a picture, and he can't talk till he eats the 12 donuts.

I like that.

Yeah.

So he has to listen to us tape part of my take.

He has to listen to us tape part of part of my take.

He's just sitting there.

The AWLs get to watch him eat 12 donuts.

How about guys on chicks?

Boogers eating donuts.

Guys on chicks.

And then when he's done, we're just like, hey, Booger, first question.

He's just 12 donuts deep.

Yeah, it's good.

Yeah, it's going to be fun.

Also, I should have mentioned there was a very funny tweet that I bookmarked because I was going through my bookmarks just now about Tommy Fleetwood.

And I was looking because at first I was like, no, I'm not going to get caught.

But then I was looking at the follow-ups, and this girl seems real.

She said, Dad's glad Fleetwood finally closed out a moment.

This is from Francis.

And it's a text from her father.

Cousin Dickie passed away Wednesday.

He just turned 74 on August 10th.

A barrel of fertilizer fell on him and broke a lot of bones and punctured a lung.

Had much internal bleeding.

Happy to see Fleetwood finally win one.

All in one text.

Such a dad text.

I love that.

And then her follow-ups, I was like, I don't want to get got.

And she was like, yeah, my family was in farming.

This is a real thing.

This is how we break the news to each other.

That's how dads do it.

Okay.

What else we got before we get to who's back?

And then we have some Mount Rushmore.

Oh, don't call Michael Pennix Michael Penis.

Don't do that.

Do not.

He will fight you.

Do not call him Michael Penis.

And Otani also got into it with a spectator.

He did.

And by get into it, he hit home run and then found the guy and then gave him a high five.

Oh.

Okay.

So, yeah.

That's Otani getting into it.

Yeah, he got into it.

Cubs also might be back.

Five games back.

Kyle Tucker just needed to sit for a little bit.

He's got three home runs in in the last three days.

QB's Ben DiNucci,

very funny tweet from the bar.

Yep.

Yeah.

It's like, no, no, no beer hits like getting a cut from your 12th team beer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can relate.

I think Ben DiNucci will be on another roster at some point this season.

I hope so.

I don't think we've heard the last of Gucci DiNucci.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was.

That sucks for him.

Yeah.

Also, Cal Rowley hit his 49th home run.

Yep.

He hit two.

He hit two.

He hit 48 and 49.

And most home runs in the season by a catcher.

Salvador Perez

was, I think, yeah, I think he had 48.

So he beat that.

And he's going to be the second Mariner ever with 50 home runs season.

Pretty crazy.

Insane season.

Hank, where are you at?

Are you.

If they had the Red Sox won three out of four against the Yankees, if they had swept, I was ready to push the button.

I'm still not on the bandwagon.

You guys have the wild card, right?

Yeah.

You got to push the button.

Do I?

Yeah, it's basically September baseball.

You got to push the button.

Get hot.

It's not September baseball yet, though.

But get hot.

It's basically September baseball, is what he said.

I said if they swept, I was all in.

I'm basically all in.

Okay, I'll take that.

Can I put my hand up for maybe lack of ball knowledge?

But I feel like baseball,

you follow your team.

You don't really know what's going on in the rest of the teams.

Because I was at Saratoga with Dave this weekend.

He bet on the Red Sox.

I didn't know Areldis Chapman was just like unhittable again.

Yeah.

He said it, and I was just, he was like, yeah, Chapman.

I was like, Araldis?

He's been around forever.

He won the World Series with the Cubs nine years now.

And he's like, I guess, like, truly unhittable again.

He's still, still throwing triple digits.

But he had control issues because he was on the Pirates.

He was all over the place.

108 ERA.

Jeez.

That's nuts.

Jeez.

Bad guy.

Better baseball player player than Guy.

Way better.

That one is easy.

That one's real easy.

Max, how the Phils doing?

Good.

Up seven games on the Mets right now.

Just took two or three from the Nats.

You guys would agree that if the Brewers blew the NL Central, that would be a choke job.

It would be.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

I mean, it's funny how it's turned because it was

a choke job.

It will be.

I hope they don't.

It would be a shame.

Chapman has a 0.33 ERA over his last 30 appearances.

That's insane.

That's insane.

I mean, when he's good, he's so great.

And I just assumed that because he did the thing where he was kind of going on different teams and it was like puttering out, you know, he went Pirates, Rangers, Royals.

Like, that's a lot of teams that he wasn't in high-leverage big games.

What was his ERA on those?

He just had control issues at the.

He would go in and out of control issues.

Yeah.

Yeah, because he was bad.

Remember, yeah, his last stint with the the Yankees, I feel like he couldn't,

he was bad.

And I was like, well, that's all she wrote.

But I guess Araldus Chapman, unhittable.

So you're back on the train?

Pretty much all the way back.

Oh, there you go.

There you go.

Almost then.

You're following along with it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

if you're following along and watching the games, you're on.

I guess, yeah.

That would be as good.

Are you excited about postseason baseball?

I love postseason baseball.

Love postseason baseball.

Love postseason hockey.

Both sports that I don't really watch a lot of the regular season.

I will watch every postseason baseball game.

There's nothing, it's you know, hockey is similar when it's like tied in the third period.

A tied postseason baseball game, like going into the seventh inning, like there's nothing better.

Yeah.

Every pitch matters.

Everything is just like waiting for that one moment.

Also, regular season.

The AWLs need Phillies Red Sox in the World Series.

There's going to be a lot of

representation.

The Phillies, Mets, and Cubs are all in a collision course.

There's going to be a lot on this podcast for postseason baseball.

It would be.

The Rockies, by the way, were eliminated.

Oh, really?

Good for them.

Yeah.

So shout out to them.

Oh, Max, we should have.

This is a bad job by me.

Farm again.

Would you like to take the floor and talk about the over?

Because that was bullshit.

You kept talking about it the whole time.

That's all I was thinking about.

Yes.

It was such bullshit.

It was fucked when they fumbled on the zero-yard line in the first minute of the game.

It was like, you can't come back from that.

We did come back.

I know.

And then we did come back.

I was watching it at a bar, and I was kind of running a little late to the wedding.

So we had the Uber out front waiting, and we were like, all right, let's just watch this play.

And then they scored, and we were like, fuck yeah, that's the over.

We get into the car, and then we put it on YouTube TV to like watch the end of it.

And we were like, what's going on?

Why are they kneeling this out?

This should have hit the over.

There's nothing nothing worse.

That's a good

start.

Yeah, first game of the year.

And then Memes and I also had Kansas team total over 31 and a half.

They had 24 in the first half.

Scored a touchdown to make it 31 early in the third quarter, never scored again.

We're back.

We're back.

We're back.

But it felt good to be mad.

Thank God I had Hawaii late because

that would have also been tough.

Shout out to Andrew Luck.

He was everywhere.

Yep.

Literally.

Did you see that pregame clip?

He was like walking in with the team, then he was in the box.

Then he was on the sideline.

Then he was in the stands.

Changing the culture.

Also, shout out Hawaii's kicker.

Yeah.

That's a cool story.

Great story.

Okay.

Yeah.

He was born in Japan.

Born in Japan.

I think he learned how to kick on YouTube.

Learned how to kick on YouTube.

Then lived in Ohio for a year, which I think that was just to like

boost up his football resume.

Yeah, played Juco for two years.

Yeah, just be like, I lived in Ohio.

I could play football.

Yeah, college coaches are like, check.

Yeah, prove the point.

Yep.

Yeah, very cool.

And then hit the game-winning kick against Stanford to start off the

football season.

Okay,

let's get to who's back of the week.

Hank, can you pull up a

college football game?

Pull up a college football game for game time.

You love college football.

College football.

Why don't you get Texas-Ohio State tickets?

I can't wait.

Did you say Oasis?

Nope.

College football season is back, which means tailgates, cheering crowds, and the excitement of being in the stands before kickoff are all back to ever find yourself at a tailgate and decide to grab tickets last minute.

That's where game time comes in.

The game time app gives the advantage back to fans.

It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps.

It's incredibly easy to use, and the game time guarantee means you can trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price.

Plus, fees are always included.

So, what you see is what you pay.

We're looking at tickets for Ohio State, Texas.

Texas at Ohio State, the shoe.

You can get in for $378 right now.

I'm looking at a ticket on GameTime.

All right, so use that Game Time app.

Find those seats and take the guests where I've got to buy in college football tickets with Game Time.

Download the Game Time app.

Create an account.

Use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase.

Terms apply.

Again, create an account, redeem code PMT for $20 off.

Swipe, tap, ticket.

Go download the GameTime app today.

Use that code PMT for $20 off.

And Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by our friends Truly Hard Seltzer.

Truly Hard Seltzer is all about fun, light, refreshing variety in a bubbly, effervescent style to get you and your people in a lively party mood.

Truly Unruly is an 8% hard seltzer, full of flavor, but still light and refreshing.

Gets in four flavors, Tropical Twist, Berry Blast, Citrus Crush, and Strawberry Smash.

You can even grab a big 24-ounce Tropical Twist single at convenience stores.

Truly's a perfect day drink.

Tailgating on the weekend, bouncing around for game day.

You can't beat something as light and easy, but big on flavor is truly truly unruly, drinks light, parties hard, get unruly with truly unruly 8% hard seltzer.

You can find it anywhere at your favorite grocery liquor or convenience store, or visit trulyhardseltzer.com and use the truly finder to grab it near you.

Okay, Hank, who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week?

Our green dildos.

Oh, good.

Yeah.

Big weekend.

They're going multi-sport.

Not multinational.

Multi-sport.

Are there the Shohei Otani of Sex Toys?

There was one in the bunker at East Lake.

Okay.

And there was one at Vikings Titans.

Oh, okay.

So we're confusing the masses.

I like this.

Do you say the masses?

No.

The masses.

The masses.

So are they doing it for the crypto thing?

It might be.

Because that's when I'm out on it.

Yeah.

Agreed.

If it's just for the love of throwing a green dildo, I'm in.

I think that we need to change up the color.

I'm not going to support green dildos anymore, but if it's like a flesh color, I'm fine with that.

You want it more real?

What color flesh?

I just, it doesn't matter.

Across the spectrum.

Okay.

But the green dildo, to me, now that's that's been sullied by the crypto plug that they're doing for it.

Yeah.

Hank, how what were your scores this weekend?

Played good Friday.

Shot 89.

Played really bad Saturday.

Club championship 103.

Didn't even make it to day two.

Shot 94 today.

Oh, congrats.

Not great.

103?

103.

It was a disaster.

That's ugly.

Really, really bad.

So, were you not watching Tommy today?

I was watching Tommy today.

I played early.

You weren't watching Kansas State, Iowa State?

No, I saw it

when I went in the clubhouse to make the turn.

It was on the screen.

I was like, oh, football.

I did take a nap for a little bit of Tommy.

It was nice.

Oh, you got it.

It was cool.

yeah yeah

but did you realize if you had realized it was in dublin would you have stopped playing the round i actually knew it was in dublin

but yeah no still no no okay uh guy was playing with actually his son or he just dropped his his son off at iowa state he's telling me he's like oh yeah they gotta give me the kids i was like is that today he's like yeah

college rootball football back college root ball sneaks up on hank every year week zero does that yeah well no week like five six seven all of it yeah like they're doing this again are you locked in for this weekend

I'm never locked in for this.

Do you have a new team?

No.

UNC.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's right.

UNC.

That's right.

Okay.

PFT, you're who's been.

College football has passed me.

I'm 32.

Never stuck.

Never stuck.

You never know.

The Washington

last year was fun.

I don't even think Hank really likes football.

I do.

I watch.

Listen, I'm here.

I'm watching more football than anyone in the week.

Those are two words that don't appeal to Hank.

College.

I love football.

I've had most championships on this team.

Well, yeah, that's my point.

You like winning football.

Yes, as anyone should.

But you don't like football.

Correct.

I have a standard.

It's called having.

I have a standard.

I have a standard of excellence.

And other people should too.

If I was memes, I wouldn't even follow this job.

Oh, all right.

PFT.

My who's back of the week is

China.

Oh!

Chinese Taipei won the Little League World Series.

Congrats to them, to the kids.

Great group of kids.

They call it Chinese Taipei, but I want to say for all intents and purposes on this show, that is Taiwan.

Taiwan won the Little League World Series.

Are we about to go there?

I'm going to go there.

I don't know why the crew in Williamsport is just getting bent over by President Xi in China, and they're just ceding control of Taiwan to the Chinese government.

So that's Taiwan?

It's Taiwan.

I call it Taiwan.

You call it Taiwan.

On a map, it says Taiwan.

I didn't know that was Taiwan.

But when it's in the Little League World Series, they just say, oh, yeah, that's actually property of China.

And the Olympics.

And the Olympics.

Yeah, the Olympics does it too.

That's Chinese Taipei.

No, that's Taiwan.

I'm going to go there.

I recognize the sovereignty of Taiwan

as a nation.

And that's the country that's cheering for those kids.

I didn't really watch any of the Little League World Series, but I saw that they beat America in the finals.

Hank was probably very happy about that.

Yeah, I don't know if it was our schedule this year, but I usually watch a little, just missed all.

I think the travel, travel days.

I was watching Braintree, then they got eliminated.

I kind of tuned out.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think they had a pitch.

They had a pitcher that threw over 80.

Chinese Taipei.

Chinese Taipei did?

Whoa.

Taiwan.

Taiwan.

Taiwan.

Taiwan.

Taiwan, Taiwan, Taiwan.

Taiwan.

They won't hear this, though.

Taiwan?

Yeah.

Will they?

I think so, yeah.

They can get PMT?

Yeah.

Shout out to Taiwan.

They are not part of China.

No.

Thank you.

You're mixing it up.

Taiwan, they can listen to part of my take.

China cannot listen to part of my take.

Got it.

But they own Taiwan.

No.

Taiwan's its own country.

They own America, and they can tell us

you have to call a Chinese Taipei.

Is that what's happening?

Big Cat's brain has been poisoned by the powers that be to think that Taiwan is owned by China.

So then what are they beefing about?

China wants to take Taiwan over again.

And they're just.

own Taiwan.

But they tell America you have to call it Chinese Taipei.

They tell the Little League World Series, hey, you have to call it Chinese Taipei.

And the Olympics.

And the Olympics.

Were people complaining online about it?

No, I just saw it and I got mad about it.

Okay.

Frankly, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

Listen, I'm going to be a good team player.

I'm going to follow whatever you do.

I'm going to follow you right now.

Yeah, you can follow me.

I'm looking at Hank now.

Hank seems like he wants to call a Chinese Taipei.

No, I'm not.

Don't fucking say it.

I'm in.

I'm in.

Taiwan.

Zach.

Zach.

Who won the Little League World Series today?

Taiwan.

Yep.

Max?

I think it might be Chinese Taipei.

Oh, no, Max.

Memes?

Max is just saying it because it sounds like an awesome dish.

I'll take some of that Chinese Taipei.

What do you got?

Memes?

Two orders.

I thought Chinese Taipei won it.

Okay, shit.

I think it's more complicated than you're saying.

No, I don't think it's.

What is Taipei?

According to Microsoft Copilot, it's saying the name Chinese Taipei is used in international organizations and sporting events as a workaround to a complex political issue involving Taiwan and Taiwan.

Taiwan and China.

Because China says like...

And then there's a whole lot of more reading that I don't think I can do, but I don't think it's as simple as you're saying.

I think it is.

I think it's China being like, you have to call it Chinese Taipei or else China won't be participating.

So Chinese Taipei is essentially a diplomatic placeholder, one that lets Taiwan engage globally while sidestepping.

What do you know about the Nagoya Resolution, PFT?

Yeah, PFT.

What don't I know about the Nagoya Resolution?

So does China just want the chips?

They want the chips from Taiwan?

They want all the chips.

All the chips.

Was regular China in it?

I don't know.

I don't know if they're allowed to be.

I don't know.

You're getting us into

murky waters here, PFT.

Hey, get us out.

I told you I'd follow you.

We're out.

We're out of the murky waters.

They can't hear us say this in.

Taiwan.

Okay.

Taiwan.

Taiwan.

All right.

My who's back of the week.

I have two.

The first is ESPN deleting graphics.

Yeah.

I think this happened on Friday.

But ESPN Sports Center tweeted

an artist did this.

Said all the icons, all the moments, all VSPN all in one place.

And they ended up deleting it because

all the icons, all the moments, all VSPN all in one place had 11 WNBA players, 10 NFL players, and 5 college football players.

And they were missing like a ton of

very important, I would say.

Hockey?

Scotty.

Yeah.

And also, I think they had Bryce Underwood, who just got named starter.

Windhorse was on there.

Scotty was missing.

Good for Windhorse.

Yeah, who else was missing?

There was only three MLB players, three NHL players.

Played Bortles.

And look,

we like WNBA here, but that does seem like

maybe a little bit off of what people tune in for.

They made Luca really fat, too.

He's probably fat again.

Old picture Luca.

Yeah, this is very...

They did this before, didn't they?

Are you thinking of the bleacher report one that had all the celebrities voting for the U.S.

Women's National Team?

That was a great graphic.

Yeah, yeah.

All-time graph.

It's so funny because

deleting is not going to do anything.

No.

Wendy got great real estate.

Oh, yeah.

I love Wendy.

Yeah.

He is an icon.

I love, no, that's great.

They should have like 11 Wendy's on there.

That would work.

Disclaimer: I'm about to talk about the tooth fairy.

If you have a little kid in the car, skip ahead of this next section.

The tooth fairy is real.

All the little kids in the car.

Very real.

And then my other who's back of the week is the tooth fairy because my oldest lost his first tooth successfully tooth fairied.

Was a thrill.

How much money?

The tooth fairy only had 20s in his wallet that night, so the bar has been set a little too high.

I think, though, I've got how many teeth?

It was one tooth.

I've talked to some people.

I think the tooth fairy has changed as the days, as we've

gotten in a little bit of a different culture.

Some of the other parents I've talked to, Tooth Very can give like sticker books and shit like that.

So we'll mix it up.

It won't be 20 every time.

I mean, if you get an extra

point,

you get a sticker book.

You don't even know what 20 is.

He was just like.

A lot of candy.

Well, actually, it might be 100 now that Tommy Fleetwood won.

But yeah, it was a problem because I got home late from what was it?

Where were we?

Oh, Camp Parstool.

And he had lost a tooth.

And he was so pumped.

And it was like, I only had 20s in my pocket.

That's what I'm saying.

How many teeth does he have to lose?

A lot.

But I think once they get to like eight or nine, they realize this is all.

I think you just, I think you paint yourself into a little corner here.

Yeah, I mean,

it was a bad bar to set.

I'll admit it.

I would have rather given him $5.

Yeah.

I did not have a five i wasn't gonna go to an atm at like 9 p.m i think i got a dollar a tooth i think i literally got a dollar a quarter i think i got a dollar actually no i got a jfk the 50 cent piece

that was solid did you guys

i was uh

i was totally fooled for a very long time but my parents were really good at it no so i had an older brother so the older brother always ruins all those surprises yeah i'm worried about that yeah yep my older brother ruined santa claus for me one year it was the worst christmas oh no no.

What do you mean, that?

Or Christmas Eve.

What do you mean?

You're ruining it right now.

There's a kid listening right now.

Oh, fuck.

We're just doing a segment on it.

Now you're swearing to?

Well, the Tooth Fairy.

Listen, I didn't say I was a Tooth Fairy.

I said I had 20s in my pocket.

The Tooth Fairy only had 20s.

I remember my dad, we went to basketball practice.

I told him, I was like, oh, the Tooth Fairy didn't come.

And then we came home and I watched him run upstairs.

And I was like, okay, so yeah, gigs up.

I remember one time i lost a tooth in secret didn't tell anybody and then i got under and then that was my first clue oh yeah the uh they've like nerfed it too now there's uh

there's tooth fairy pillows and like uh dolls that you put on the door which is bullshit i don't think any parent should ever buy this it's supposed to be like you put the tooth in the little belly of like the teddy bear and then you hang it on the door so the parent doesn't have to go all the way in that's bullshit Yeah, that should not be a thing.

Does the kid put their tooth in the yeah, they put it in there and they're like, oh, what do you do with the teeth?

My wife wanted to save it.

That's kind of that was a red flag.

Yeah.

Just put it next to your kidstone.

I think you're supposed to.

It's about the same size.

Like a shark.

I think you save it because you're like, oh, it's baby teeth.

But it also is going to be weird when we just have way too many baby teeth in the bag.

I think it's good to save the first one of the

first one.

Yeah.

Also, the

genius move, the plat had him put it in a plastic bag because I didn't want to lose it.

Plastic bag under the pillow.

Then I put a note in the money in a different plastic bag, same plastic bag, like a sandwich bag, swapped it out.

So he thought the tooth fairy came and took the thing.

I got to now tell my wife not to listen to the podcast in the car.

I just realized that.

That would be a big mistake.

So he's going to be like, it's the same plastic bag that was here.

Yeah.

Because he didn't see you get that bag.

Correct.

Yeah.

He doesn't know that you have multiples of the same bag.

Correct.

Either way, it was a thrill.

It was fucking.

$20 is a steep price, though.

What do you want me to do?

What would you do in that situation?

I don't have change in my house.

I didn't have.

I wish I had ones.

Yeah.

Do you have any like candy or something?

Candy could have.

Donut.

A donut.

I don't think it's going underneath.

Hershey bar.

Listen, it was first tooth.

Then we're going to go down.

Price is going to change.

He doesn't even know what it is.

He doesn't know what $20 is.

I think he said he was like, oh, I'll buy some new shoes.

Like, no, you won't.

$20.

You can't do that.

No, you won't.

Step it up.

You don't know what that is.

All right, Zach.

My Who's Back of the Week is end zone celebrations.

So rookie Tez Johnson on the Tambay Buccaneers

hit the end zone and then proceeded to do a full gymnastics routine.

I don't have the definitions of what flips these were, but I know it was like a back handspring situation and definitely a back flip that we get to the end zone.

Okay.

And it felt good.

And no flap all the way back.

It felt great.

I felt like we were back.

And then I do have a quick one if that's okay.

Yeah.

So esports awards, they had their decade.

Tez Johnson's end zone celebration was the Trojan horse.

Yeah.

That was bullshit.

I thought he was going to do like some video game related dance.

Yeah.

Why do the Bucs cut the fat guy?

Look, I think he can still lose the weight if nobody picks him up.

Like, it takes time.

No one can do that.

The guiding's hard.

And if he just takes a little bit more time, dials in, he could be good.

I agree.

They should have let him practice.

Yeah, I don't understand that move.

Just putting him on the sideline with his, like, just...

He became a spectacle because everyone was like, hey, he's too big to play football.

There's going to be cameras on him the entire time.

Just like, shame him.

Let him put on a helmet and some pads.

Do some individual drills, maybe, lose some of that weight.

I agree.

So his story is not done.

I want to see him on the field.

He's too fat.

He's too fat.

Too fat for football.

All right.

ESports award.

So 10 years of esports awards.

So controller player of the decade went to Shotzi.

He's got three chips in COD, one chip in Halo.

A lot of rings.

Good for Shotzi.

Wait, was this the first esports award?

No, it's the 10th annual esports award.

So player of the decade.

Wow.

So he's the first ever player of the decade.

Of the esports awards when it comes to controller, yes.

Because it was the first decade.

Yes, sir.

Did you watch this live?

I did not watch these live.

Did you go outside this weekend?

I did go outside this weekend.

I went to.

Don't say to Target.

No, I know that's tomorrow.

I'm going to do it tomorrow.

Okay.

I went and got some shoes today.

Went on a nice little walk, got some shoes.

Okay.

Okay.

I've got to get you outside.

It's going to get cold soon.

I know.

I feel like I took summer for granted because in Florida, the seasons don't change.

And now I'm thinking, like, oh, walking here today, it was 69 or 70 degrees.

And I was like, this is, we're still in August.

What's going on?

What's happening?

Do you have a jacket?

I've got, yeah, I've got some hoodies.

I got a little bit of a paper.

No, that's not what he said.

Do you have a jacket?

What do you mean?

Like a jacket.

Yeah, I've got...

A winter jacket.

Okay, so I don't have one of the big ones.

I do have like a great golf-centric winter jacket that I don't know if it's thick enough, but I will be repping that pretty much.

No, my windbreaker.

My one advice to Chicago winner for you, Zach, because this will be your first one, is spend, don't spare any expense on a very warm winter jacket.

It's just one of those things.

If you get a really nice, warm one,

it changes everything.

I do think the one that Hank graciously gifted me might be enough.

No.

But

what was that jacket?

It's like a golf jacket.

No, no, it was a pebble.

It was, it was like, it was the most expensive jacket in the pro shop.

It's not quite, it's good for like 40 degrees and up.

It's once you get below that, though, you need, you do need like.

You know what?

I'll get you a nitrogen.

Are we doing thermals too?

Like, are we doing...

No, you don't have to.

Well, you do wear it.

You need a puffer.

Yeah, you can wear like a big one.

A sweatshirt and then a big ass jacket.

Big jacket.

And you, like, the big-ass jacket, we check, like, that just goes off for the, once you're in the inside, you don't need that anymore.

You're going to go

for to and from.

Yeah.

We got to be outside.

Okay.

Yeah.

We should have, we should have lied to him there.

Yeah.

Zach never takes off.

He's always have to rock it.

All winter long.

So big jacket and pants is we're going for next.

We got to get you outside more, though.

Yes, sir.

The weather's still nice.

I agree.

What?

I did quite a bit of walking today, though.

Saturday, you did not go outside.

Zach lives very close to like one of the most popular streets in Chicago.

The reason he probably pays for his rent is that his proximity to this street.

I dropped him off one time two months after living here, and he was like, oh, this is a nice street.

I've never seen this before.

I'm saying 0.2 miles away from his apartment.

It's got great bars and restaurants, Zach.

My defense, it is the other direction from work, though.

So I keep going left, and then the street Mac showed me was to the right.

But it is a great street.

All right, we've got to get you outside a little bit while the weather's still nice.

I'll do Friday, Saturday, outside, both days.

What?

Yeah, we'll rip that.

Love that.

Man.

I'll report back.

Well, it's a three-day rip.

So that would be inside Sunday and Monday.

Baby steps.

Baby steps.

Football.

All right.

Let's do our Mount Rushmore.

And then we have Florio talking football, getting us ready for the season.

Before we get to Mount Rushmore,

we are brought to you by YouTube.

Football is back.

The only place fans can watch every game, every Sunday, is NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV.

NFL Sunday Ticket provides NFL fans with the ultimate NFL viewing experience with features like multi-view, where you can watch up to four games at the exact same time, including red zone.

Key plays to catch up or replay the biggest moments in each game, and Jerry O'Connell's favorite feature, Fantasy View, to track your players' scores right alongside each game.

Right now, new users can score NFL Sunday ticket for eight payments of $34.50 a month.

Sign up today at youtube.com slash pardon my take to get started.

Tell them the football guys at Pardon My Take sent you.

That is youtube.com/slash pardon my take to get started.

New users pay $276 or eight non-cancelable payments of $34.50 a month first charged at purchase.

Availability varies with NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games and YouTube TV base plan for local and national games.

Base plan required.

Device and content restrictions apply.

Terms, restrictions, and embargoes apply.

Excludes digital-only games.

Commercial use excluded.

No refunds.

We are also brought to you by our good friends at Mountain Dew.

We just got back from camp.

It was incredible.

Grab a blast, a refreshing tropical lime flavor of Mountain Dew.

Baja Blast.

Blast now comes in zero zero sugar.

We were drinking it all week at camp.

The same great taste of Baja Blast with zero sugar.

I don't know about you guys, but that was my favorite week of the year.

It's my favorite work week of the year.

Camp, barstool, so much fun.

Mountain Dew sends us out there.

Look, we're on the golf course still.

Some fall golf hank, elite with Mountain Dew.

Can't beat it.

Yep.

If you're still

Labor Day weekend, heading out to your boat, going fishing, Mountain Dew, the best.

We got some baseball heating up.

September races, Mountain Dew.

And then we have NFL season.

We're going to be in tailgate season.

Mountain Dew.

It is so delicious.

And it's great to enjoy with your friends outdoors having some fun.

So go try Mountain Dew, Baja Blast right now.

Blast now comes in zero sugar, the same great taste of Baja Blast with zero sugar.

Go try Mountain Dew, Baja Blast right now.

And do the dew.

I'm going to have a set.

You know what?

Ah, yeah.

That's delicious.

Mountain Dew.

All right.

Mount Rushmore time.

Mount Rushmore

of the Hall of Very Good.

The updated standings are

Zach and I are at 48, I believe.

Is that right?

That's correct.

Maxim Memes, 42.

PFT and Hank, 42.

So Zach and I officially cannot lose Mount Rushmore anymore.

We still would like to win.

so we're still going to be competing, but we cannot lose.

It is a two-horse race in terms of losing.

And reminder, if

we are tied at the end of this week, next week we would have a duel,

which would be electric.

Would you guys agree?

I would agree.

I think the duel would be.

A duel would be maybe a best of three.

Off the top.

Off the top.

Maybe you go 1v1, 1v1, 2v2.

Oh, like Ryder Cups.

I like that.

I like that.

Wow.

Zach and I will come up with the Mount Rushmores, and we just

hit you guys with it, and you have to go off the top of your head.

Could it be a scramble?

Like, I'll say my pick, Hank says his, and then we take the better one.

That would also be electric.

All right.

Either way, I'm hoping for a duel.

We had a close Mount Rushmore on Friday.

It was like 1%.

Yeah.

Zelda got smoked.

Zelda to get rightfully so.

Big time.

Now, I did hear from a lot of

Zelda freaks online on Friday.

Everyone.

Everyone?

So you must have won the poll.

No, you guys.

No, you guys just play to the graphic.

That's what you do the whole time.

What do you mean?

You just play to the graphic.

Do your little multi-player Mario Kart.

Yeah, you did it.

Yeah.

Diddy Congregation was a better game than Mario Kart.

You didn't draft that either?

I know, but that's why I didn't draft it because it wouldn't be playing to myself if I took Mario Kart when I did it.

Did you just see you on the team?

That was a

point Mario Kart memes?

I did.

Mario Kart's a trash single-player meme.

I love how you say it.

It's a long game.

You could beat that entire

Mario Kart.

You could beat Mario Kart in 20 minutes.

So, Max, you like Diddy Open?

You guys just never played.

You never had an N64.

You only played at other people's house.

What are you talking about?

That's not true.

Yeah,

that's correct for me.

Not for me.

And I said that on the things on Max Friends House School.

Max.

Maxwell's Diddy guy.

You took Donkey Kong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's Donkey Kong's great game.

Awesome game.

Diddy, not so much.

I fucking get it.

Oh, okay.

You're guys stupid little jokes.

You think you're so fucking funny.

No, I just think that I think Zelda started this track.

It felt good to get that Zelda take off my chest, too.

Yeah, and so many people were trashing you for the Zelda.

Why didn't you win the graphic then?

Because everyone's a bunch of losers who just play little Mario Kart in college.

Like, that's the thing.

It's no one back who was really playing N64 at the time.

If this draft happened while the N64 was still in play, our draft would have absolutely smoked.

But it's all going back, and it's all kids in college who just play Birio Kart and do fucking bullshit.

And they're like, oh, Mario Kart, the best fucking game ever on the N64.

But Mario Kart fucking sucked on the N64.

Wouldn't you say we didn't pander?

Because if we had pandered, we would have picked Zelda.

I said to Zach before, I was like, I never played Zelda.

I don't like Zelda.

I will say I love Zelda, but as a good teammate, I would have to play with the ball.

No way.

As a good teammate, I would have to play with the Zeus Zone.

No way, Hank.

What?

I had the ball.

As a good teammate, I had to support.

Yeah, that was just being a good teammate.

I had the ball.

Are you serious?

That's crazy.

Are you serious?

Yes.

You're not fucking with me?

No.

You actually like Zelda?

Yes.

That's awesome.

Okay,

I don't even care.

That's fucking awesome.

I don't know if

my face was on the camera when PFT did the I was like, I was shocked.

That's all.

Okay, that's great.

That's great.

He did the I was like, finally, I feel seen.

Yeah.

It's important to say it because for a long time, I've been bullied.

I had no visibility out there.

Right.

I've been bullied for a long time for not liking Zelda.

And Max re-traumatized me on Friday by directing his followers by weaponizing social media and telling them to go after me.

Bullied me.

Oh, you would never do such a thing.

Never.

No.

Also, Max, thank you.

Max let me out of our bet.

Yeah, I got got.

Sometimes you get got.

A lesser man would have deleted, not me.

Max let me out of our punishment on Friday because

also, by the way, did he sign on Friday?

I believe he signed, and there's a secret contract.

Oh, okay, okay,

there's a secret contract.

I also saw Max's Max's take, which he tweeted out and said, punishment canceled.

So I don't think that's a good thing.

Yeah, punishment's canceled.

Yeah, but he got got by like Adarn Schefter.

Oh, damn.

Yeah.

I saw it immediately.

The worst part is you misleading our fans and our listeners, Max.

Well, I got

three people that mentioned me in that being like, oh, look, it happened.

Yeah.

And then I didn't actually follow through.

Shout out to those guys.

All right.

Yeah.

Mount Rushmore.

Memes is talking for.

I'm muting my mic for this.

Why?

Because

I can't do it.

I can't do it.

No, we like having a Mount Rushmore.

No, I can't do it.

This self-mute's going to last 30 seconds.

Yeah.

All right.

Mount Rushmore of Hall of Very Good.

Okay.

Who goes for?

What's the order?

We go first.

PFT.

Yeah.

Us.

Y'all.

Okay.

All right.

Let's do it.

So, 1-1, we are going to take Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia Eagle.

Good pick.

All of very good.

Four consecutive NFC championship games.

Never won the big one.

Puked in the last drive of the Super Bowl.

But yeah, very good quarterback.

Yeah.

Objectively, very good.

Very good quarterback.

Had him on our list.

Which one?

Max?

PFT.

Yeah.

Yep, that was our 1-1 as well.

Did you have the ball on Friday?

Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

What's going on here?

It's Hank's turn to draft.

We had that as well.

Yeah, we did.

We did.

We did.

We did.

Are you getting ball hogged?

There's only one ball.

I wasn't sure.

I'm trying to remember.

That's why I didn't say it out loud.

I think I had the ball hogged.

You did say it out loud.

I whispered it, though, so it was out quiet.

All right.

Out quiet.

Okay.

I said it out quiet.

I like that.

You guys are up.

We're going to go go Philip Rivers, 1-1.

Okay.

1-2.

I thought about him, but I think he's going to get into the Hall of Fame.

Might be a Hall of Famer.

But in terms of good, he only led the league in passing one time.

All his passing yards, it's just from a long career.

He was just a very good quarterback.

He was never the best out of the entire group of quarterbacks that he was in.

But if he's in the Hall of Fame, yeah, he might be in the Hall of Fame.

He's not in the Hall of Fame right now.

Okay.

All right, Zach.

Let's do it.

Two, one.

Yeah, and then what are we going to go with our next pick?

What do you think about maybe

three

and

it?

Yeah.

I like that.

All right.

Our first pick is going to be the Minnesota Vikings franchise.

Hall of Very Good.

65 seasons.

32 playoff appearances in 65 seasons.

They've literally been to the playoffs almost exactly half the time.

10 conference championship games.

Their longest drought of not making the playoffs since 1968 is four seasons.

So they're basically in the playoffs every year.

They've never won a Super Bowl.

They're the hall of very good franchises.

Okay.

And then our second pick is going to be above-ground pools.

Okay.

Hall of very good.

All right.

Are they very good?

Yeah.

Dude, above-ground pools are very good.

They're very fun.

I've had a fun time in above grid.

They're fine.

Okay.

I think they're very good.

They're better than no pool.

I think they're in the hall of mid.

Okay.

So much better than no pool.

So much better than no pool.

No pool, above-ground pool,

pools.

I had an above-ground pool at an Airbnb I state at like three weeks ago.

It was so much fun.

We were quaking the pool.

You don't like it?

I just don't think it's very good.

I think it's very good as a stretch.

You had a bad time in an above-ground pool?

I've had a fine time.

I've had a very good time in an above-ground pool.

But

You don't, when you get houses, you're not looking for an above-ground pool.

No, I know.

The Hall of Fame

of Hall of Fame would be a pool.

I think a Hall of Fame would be a pool with a deep end.

A pool,

an in-ground pool is a Hall of Fame pool.

Okay.

You guys can disagree?

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter.

Okay.

Max, memes?

Yeah, it's fine.

Okay.

No, no, it's your pick.

Hall of Fame.

Oh, yeah, yeah, memes, memes.

I'm mute.

You're mute?

Which one?

You want to do it?

All right, Eli Manning.

Picks up.

Wow.

All right.

Wow.

No Pro Bowl.

He's going to be a Hall of Famer.

No, he's been to the Pro Bowl four times.

Yeah, if you look.

Never been an all-pro, never led the league in passing, led the league in interceptions a bunch.

He was just very good.

He was as good as he got.

Okay.

Okay.

But he was great when it matched.

He won two Super Bowls.

Yeah,

that's very good.

Okay.

I've been told a lot over the past three months that winning a Super Bowl isn't a quarterback stat.

Who told you that on this show?

Starting just over the day.

For not three months.

I don't know how many months it's been since February, but

close.

Okay.

You guys are up.

Hank?

You have two.

Wait, who has the ball?

Hank does.

We are going to go Hall of Fame guy, rest in peace, legend,

one-time All-Star, two-times World Series champion, Tim Wakefield.

Oh.

200 wins.

You're going to go a different direction there when you said that.

But you said good pick before.

Yeah.

You already gave a good pick.

Yeah.

This is a good pick.

It is a good pick.

Thank you.

1992 to 2011, 200 wins.

Yeah, that's very good.

Consistent.

That's very good.

One-time all-star, though, but very good.

And he had a thing.

Knuckleball.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then

for our next pick, we are going to go with.

What do you think?

You got the ball.

Ricky Fowler.

Oh, okay.

Good pick, Hank.

Golf.

Nice.

Good pick, Hank.

I agree.

Good pick, Hank.

I don't know Ricky Fowler's stats enough to tell you.

I don't know any stats.

I don't know any stats on anything.

Memes, I guess.

You guys made more competition.

And I'd also say that Zach and I took a very different approach to this draft.

Well, yeah, you guys aren't competing.

No, I think we would have done it this way anyway.

We had some that were along the same lines.

Yeah.

I mean, Memes' stats are just like he never led the league in passing.

He never led.

The only thing he led the league in was interceptions.

I mean, Eli Manning was a very good quarterback, but I don't.

He was never a

top three quarterback in the league?

No.

No.

Yeah.

He was just the best big-time game quarterback for those two games.

Okay.

You guys have your pick.

He's come in second masters, third PGA championship, second U.S.

Open, second Open Championship.

Prolific amateur.

Very good Ryder Cup.

Just not.

Hall of Fame guy.

Hall of Fame guy.

We're going to go with Mike Vick.

It's all QBs.

Yeah.

Very good boys.

A lot of QBs.

A lot of QBs.

Okay.

Do you want to make a

case for him?

Just a good quarterback.

Okay.

Very good.

Very good.

Yeah.

All right, Zach.

I think we go 4-5.

I like 4-5.

Okay.

All right.

Our next pick is going to be Canada as a country.

Which is very good.

Not Hall of Fame country.

Thought about that?

They're just very good.

Seems pretty good.

Yeah.

Really good ally.

Tim Hortons?

There's not going to be on the list of countries that really, really put their mark on things.

Holo, very nice.

Yeah.

They're just very good.

Like that's a strong country.

That's a top 20 country.

Is it a top 10?

I think they're top 10.

You think they're top 10?

But

have they ever been in history a top three country?

No.

No.

And that's okay.

They're like the Scotty Pippen of countries.

They're a really good country.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Very good country.

I think it's bullshit that whenever you look at best countries, it always has Switzerland number one.

I know.

It is.

There's something.

People just say Switzerland.

Yeah.

What is it about Switzerland?

Oh, we don't want to take a side.

Yeah.

The banks.

Oh, this is Canada number four.

The Alps.

Yeah.

I think Canada is a strong top 10 country.

I don't think they've ever been top 10.

Yeah, but they're not Hall of Fame country.

Swiss cheese sucks.

And they're also, I mean, they, you know, a lot of their chocolate.

Army knives.

Swiss cheese.

What do you say?

Just with cheese.

He's like, you don't mean that, really?

You don't mean that.

Stand on Swiss cheese.

Great milk cheese for sandwiches.

Yeah.

All right, Zach, give us our last pick.

Do you want to rip four or eight?

We'll rip four.

No, I mean, eight's the funny one.

Do you want us to do the funny one or do you want us to do the.

Where do you think is a better pick?

Four is good.

You guys decide four or eight.

Which one would you rather pick?

All right.

We're going with eight?

Yeah.

We would like to take our fourth pick.

We want to take titty fucking.

Yeah, it's very good.

Yeah, yeah.

It is very good.

That's a good pick.

It's not Hall of Fame.

Hall of Fame is sex.

I would say it's less than very good.

No, you're wrong.

No, no, there's.

Personally, that's my.

Yeah.

It's very good, but you would rather be having sex.

It's never been tough.

That's Hall of Fame.

I think this is kind of.

No, you said it was bad.

You said it sucked.

No, I think I said...

Overrated.

No, it was...

Things that are fun to try once.

Things that are fun to try once, which is the perfect way to describe telephone.

No, that's wrong.

It's the perfect way to describe titty fuck.

It's fun to do multiple things.

It's something that you get so excited when you're like a teen.

You're like, oh, I can't wait to put my dick in some titties.

Then you do it, and it's like, this doesn't feel as good as it should.

That was a fun.

It sounds bad.

That sounded really bad.

You actually made it seem worse, yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think I would ever want to titty fuck again after hearing Max describe it.

I'm just going to be thinking about it.

Every time.

The thwack, it's just going to be Max's hands sitting together.

Oh, man.

You put your dick in there once.

I think titty fucking is very good.

Not Hall of Fame.

I agree.

It's top three.

Back to mute.

Back to mute, Baby.

Back to mute.

Do you guys like that pick, Hank?

It's a good pick.

Yeah.

Okay.

You got nothing for me.

It's like I said, Ricky Fowler.

Ricky Fowler isn't.

Yeah, I don't know Ricky Fowler.

There's more measurables.

I think if you, which is fine.

You deserve it.

You guys have been mathematically non-eliminated, so

you're going to have fun with it.

I think titty fucking is way better than above-ground pools.

Okay.

Yeah, way better.

Disagree.

Above-ground pools, you can basically do the same thing.

It's just the optics don't look as good.

What titty fucking in an above-ground pool?

That's actually a great time.

No, it's probably better.

Yeah.

I mean, we do have, like, we have the Vike, the Vikings, above-ground pools, titty fucking.

Vikings are great.

If you're titty fucking in an above-ground pool in Canada, you're having a very good time.

Yeah.

Watching that.

You're not having the best.

You would rather be having sex in a hot tub in America.

That would be Hall of Fame to you.

Oh, yeah.

So we just describe, yeah, watching the Viking.

You just describe the very good time that's not,

you know, there's something more.

I'd rather be doing all that in America while watching the Bills.

Yeah.

So yeah,

I feel strong about our very good.

I feel good about our very good.

All fun things.

All very good.

Feel very good about your very good.

Yeah.

Who's up?

We are up.

We're going to stick on the quarterback.

Julian Edeman.

Okay.

Okay.

See, also future Hall of Famer.

No.

Yeah.

No.

You got my vote, Jules.

Good guy, Hank.

Very good, very good.

Very good, very good wide receiver.

Yeah.

Super Bowl and very, very good.

If they voted playoffs only,

he'd definitely get in.

Also, punt returner.

Punt returner.

Podcaster?

Podcaster.

Friend.

Podcaster is probably Hall of Famer.

Defensive back?

Podcast guest.

Definitely Hall of Fame.

Definitely Hall of Fame.

Friend?

Friend.

Hall of Famer.

Actor.

Hall of Famer.

Yep.

Model.

Hall of Famer.

Thirst Trapper.

Hall of Famer.

Steroid user?

No.

Nope.

Nope.

Nope.

Not.

Yep.

Not steroid user.

Definitely not in the steroid Hall of Fame.

Nope.

Nope.

All right.

What's actually a great Hall of Fame?

The All-Steroids Hall of Fame?

That would be.

Julian, did we do that?

Did we?

I did not do that.

I think we might have

a steroid Hall of Fame would rip.

Maybe we'll do that.

Last pick, we were going to go with Heinz Ward.

Oh, okay.

So Tony Romo didn't get picked.

I'm shocked.

We had it on the list.

Good point.

We had it on the list.

Yeah.

Because that was our only player we were thinking about taking was Tony Romo.

Yeah, but

Tony Romo is.

He is like a.

But fuck Tony Romo.

Yeah, but he's like all very good.

Yeah,

I don't want Tony Romo on

my list.

No.

Okay, here is the rest of our list.

You guys tell us if any of these.

So I wanted to make the case.

I think chicken is in the hall of very good.

Disagree.

I think it's the Hall of Fame.

Chicken wings.

Yeah.

Fried chicken.

The numbers.

The numbers.

It's tough to argue the numbers for chicken.

I understand, but

when you go, like, hello.

Hey, we're going to have a really nice dinner.

It's going to be a steak dinner.

Numbers are numbers.

In the hall of fame.

Again, the hall of fame.

Very good is very good.

That means it's very, very good.

Chicken wings alone should put that in the hallway.

Also, all of your arguments against Julian Edelman, Heinz Ward is the exact same.

Oh, go for it.

Go.

You just said

Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP, also Heinz Ward.

Yeah.

I had to double.

I had to fact-check my thoughts before I went.

Look it up.

Look up their stats.

What?

Well, also, Heinz Ward, not in the Hall of Fame.

Julian Edelman might still get in the Hall of Fame.

We don't know.

Look at their stats.

Let's figure this out.

Let's move on.

All right.

I was on your own.

We had

Tooda Camry.

That's just a very good car.

It is very good.

It's very dependable, very good car, but it's not a Hall of Fame car.

5'11

as a height.

I would say probably Hall of Fame numbers.

It's all very good.

Because if you're 5'11, you could say you're six feet.

But you know, you're not.

Yeah.

We had bacon on pizza.

It's very good.

I like that call because it's not.

You kind of want it to be pepperoni or or sausage, but it's still good.

It's still very good.

You're not upset about that as a topping, but it's, but like, it also feels, for some reason, it feels much fatter

if you're going up and ordering a bacon pizza rather than a pepperoni, even though it's probably not any different.

I think that the bacon messes up the consistency of the pizza.

Yeah.

It makes it too crunchy.

But like a chicken bacon ranch is like a great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Six beers.

Six beers.

Very good.

Six beers is a good number.

Yeah, but it's also like, you're never going to have a Hall of Fame night with six beers.

That's a great point.

I also don't think I've ever drank six beers.

Right.

But it's like a good drunk, but

it's not like, hey, we're having the best time.

I think I've had four or five beers.

Four's the worst number of beers.

And I have definitely had like seven or eight beers.

But once you hit six, it's like you got a choice to make.

Yeah.

20-minute naps, very good, but you're also like, I wish, you know, a Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame might be nice.

That's another thing I hate when people are like, oh, 20 minutes is the most optimal number of time.

Two hours is the optimal time.

That's a real nap.

Yeah.

Granola bars dipped in chocolate.

Yeah.

Depending on what you're doing.

It is good.

Very good.

By the way, for the record, Heinz Ward has double the amount of yards as Julian Edelman.

Not double the amount of heart.

Or podcast appearances on this.

Correct.

The last one, you had Zach, why don't you make your case 12?

And then I'm going to trigger you guys with something Zach said to me.

He's dreading this.

Flip-flops.

No, no.

So flip-flops, you know, I wouldn't say the best lounge footwear, but also something you can't go wrong with.

That's crazy.

You like them?

Yes.

I'm not a big flip-flop.

Yeah, I own one pair that I bought under duress because I forgot my other beach shoes at home.

So I was like, these will do in a pinch.

Yeah.

Don't really love them.

Make your case for the other two that non-foot.

Our other players were Jay Cutler

and Sean Marion, both Hall of Famer.

Sean Marion is a great pick, but NBA is so hard.

It's like everyone is a Hall of Famer.

Steve Francis.

Franchise.

The franchise.

Kyle Corver.

Marius Aldemeyer.

Kyle Corver is a good one.

Kirk Heinrich.

John Wall.

John Wall.

But John.

Yeah.

Zach.

Make your case for the other two.

He's in the Hall of Fam.

Could have been great.

And then I'm going to trigger you guys.

Then I want to hear your guys' honorable mentions.

mentions you talking about apple pie oh no i was saying pulled pork and acai bowls oh acai bowls good but definitely not great when it comes to like uh frozen kind of dessert healthier options you can get and then uh they're also not healthy yeah they're not tons of sugar yeah yeah and then pulled pork i was hesitant on that i felt at first that pulled pork is just good but then i started thinking about pulled pork as a sandwich element and we start melting cheese you start dipping in aju then i don't know i'm not as strong on that once i started thinking about the versatility of pulled pork you're thinking of roast you're thinking of like a roast pork sandwich.

You might be.

Pulled pork is like the barbecue, the barbecue pulled pork.

But it kind of works for barbecue because you want to see it.

You don't see

cheese on a pulled pork.

You ever done like pulled pork sliders where you do like the cheese and the Hawaiian roll?

Delicious.

I've done that with like roast pork, like Philly-style sandwiches with like broccoli raw or spinach.

Carolina style.

With the melted provan.

That's top-tier sandwich.

I would put Carolina-style pulled pork.

Skip back to this.

In the hall of fan.

It's a great, it's a great, great barbecue meeting.

Yeah, it is a good meet.

Last year we did so much food, and that's why I was so good at it.

Yeah.

That is true.

You're a food merchant?

Do you guys want to get triggered by something Zach said to me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we were talking players because we were like, let's throw out a couple players just for our honorable mentions.

We're going to take this draft a different way.

But we just wanted to brainstorm some players.

He had one good running back pick and one that made me want to punch him in his face.

The good pick was Tiki Barber.

That's a Hall very good guy.

Do you guys want to guess who I wanted to punch?

He said this name and I wanted to punch him in the face.

Sarah Sanders.

No.

O.J.

Mill Smith.

Ladanian Tomlinson was his hall very good, and I got furious at him.

Where's Shane?

Isn't he in the Hall of Fame?

Yes.

He's not only in the Hall of Fame, but if you watch LaDanian Tomlinson, he was so electric

for that stretch.

You make a run as as a child, and then you almost think about yourself being LT.

Terrible pain.

He was good on the Jets, Hank.

He was so

fast.

So good.

I actually think that we're.

Was he good on the Jets?

I don't know the way you said that, though.

You put some stank on that Hank.

He was good on the Jets Hank.

We didn't always suck.

A couple good years.

Lidanian Thomas is one of those guys, I actually think that we need to put a date on the calendar to remember how good he was because he was so good.

Watch the highlight reels of LT.

Insane.

Dude,

he had a year where I just won my entire fantasy season just because I had him.

Because

if he wasn't scoring the touchdown on his feet, he was throwing passes.

Yeah, he was catching and throwing them.

What is the

give me the year?

I think it was like 06, I want to say

1,800 yards, 28 touchdowns.

That's insane.

Yeah, that's the year.

1,800 yards, 28 touchdowns.

And the years before, he had 17, 18.

I mean, he was 31 total touchdowns that year.

31 total touchdowns.

31.

I do remember like...

Fucking insane.

Like fantasy football, if you had LaDanian Thomason, you just won.

Yeah.

No, that was the year.

I had him, and I was like,

it might have been one of the first years I played in.

I was just like, this is the easiest thing ever because you just draft LT and then you're good.

I'm pretty sure.

What did you say?

I'm I'm pretty sure Lendina Thomas in NFL Street, too.

He's so fast and official, they got him in a bulletproof vest.

Hold on.

2006, he had 33 touchdowns.

He ran for 28.

He caught three.

He passed for two.

That's insane.

That's insane.

That's on me.

I looked past the passing.

That was one of the best years ever.

So, yeah, Zach, that made me upset.

Bad pick.

No, it's okay.

It's okay.

All right.

What do you guys have?

Honorable mentions.

I'm shocked Tony Romo didn't get picked.

We had.

It's probably because PFT and I were on the other two teams.

But he is the definite.

I just don't want to.

But I don't think Tony Romo sucks.

But he's the poster boy of Hall of Very Good.

We had Matt Ryan.

Yeah.

I thought he won an MVP, but yeah.

He did.

We had Clem Chowder.

Ooh.

It might be a Hall of Fame suit.

I don't know.

I got

Manhattan Clam Chowder.

No, I think Manhattan.

Oh, you like that?

I think Manhattan is very good.

No.

I don't think it's that good.

I think the cream base, it's always good.

Yeah, well, you were fat, so

what?

Fatti your soup, Manhattan soup.

Are you talking to yourself?

Manhattan, Manhattan soup is

lighter soup.

Is it inner dialogue that you have?

I don't know.

You guys feel fat.

That was great because it

completely befuddled me.

I didn't know what to say.

You just crossed it.

There you go.

I just put, I just, yeah.

That was a trick play you just

max.

Shut the fuck up, you short piece of shit.

This is good.

Okay, what else?

We had Keith Yandel.

Oh.

Yeah.

All very good.

1100 games.

600 points.

But he's a Hall of Fame guy.

A Hall of Fame guy.

We had Connor McDavid.

Yeah.

All very good.

Yeah.

We had Matt Stafford.

All of very good.

I think he's a Hall of Famer.

I've been standing on that for a while.

Yeah, that's really the only reason we put it on the list.

Yeah.

Possibly the Caribbean movies.

I'm not familiar.

I love it.

I love

the I didn't even know.

We didn't even think that that was an option to go outside of sports players.

That's immediately what I thought of.

You thought of the porn?

Yeah, Stagnet's Revenge.

Oh, gotcha.

Yeah, Pirate Simon.

We had JFK.

Was he all

career cut short?

Yep.

CTE.

VH1.

VH1.

That's a good pick.

I like that.

Kyle Corver.

What do you guys think about cake?

I thought about doing chocolate cake.

I think it's tough when it's like these are subjective, like the Hall of Fame, it's based on numbers.

Like, cake just racks up

numbers.

It's hard to, like, when it comes to.

But, like, Hall of Fame desserts, is cake in there?

It's, it's, yeah.

I think it has to be because you got wedding cake, you got birthday cake.

Yeah.

It is a workhorse.

You can also put so many things into, like, cookie cake.

Cookie cake is delicious.

Ice cream cake.

Yeah.

Well, ice cream cake is ice cream.

I know, but it's technically cake.

Yeah, but it's ice cream.

Is it cake?

Is it cake?

Is it cake?

Shane, did you hear what just happened?

Yeah, I heard it.

What are your thoughts?

What are your thoughts?

It's crazy.

Crazy, yeah.

Shane, I had your back.

Shane, I had your back.

I got Zach can attest.

I got

visibly upset at him.

What jersey do you think he's going to wear into the Hall of Fame?

Well, he already is in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

Great question.

He's legitimately like top five running back of all time.

What did you think about Philip Riverspeck?

I mean, yeah.

That's like the

Paula very good guy.

Got carried by LT.

Yeah.

Some are saying.

Yeah.

We had a couple baseball players.

Prince Fielder was a good one.

He had a stretch there.

He was just fun.

He was just fun to watch.

Madison Bumgarner.

Ooh.

Tim Linsegum.

Madison Bumgarner was a Hall of Fame.

His career will not be a Hall of Fame numbers.

He was not a Hall of Fame numbers.

Like, he was awesome in the playoffs, but but he was not.

I don't think he had nearly enough wins.

No,

Madison Bumgardner still has a lot of people.

That's great guys you want to go to battle with.

Oh, yeah, definitely.

He's up there for sure.

He's just like the best guy that you would think of.

134 wins is way short.

The wins don't really matter that much.

Well, they do in the Hall of Fame for baseball Hall of Fame.

He shouldn't.

I agree, but they do.

You know they do.

Like, he's 36.

Like, there are plenty of pitchers that are 36 still pitching.

Yeah.

And, And, like, you haven't thought about him for.

He just had such a great stretch of playoff appearances where he was so dominant, but he just doesn't have the career to be a Hall of Famer.

We had Steve McNair.

That's a good pick.

That's what I thought.

When you were like R.I.P.

I thought you were going Steve McNair.

That's a good pick.

That's a really good pick.

Andrew Luck.

Yeah.

Oh, fuck.

We forgot about him.

Yeah.

I think he was great, though.

Career cut short.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's another one that is just

what could have been.

He could have been a Hall of Famer.

He said it himself when he's on the show.

He's in the Hall of Very Good.

Who?

Kurt Schilling.

Kurt Chilling.

I mean, Kurt Schilling, if we're just talking better baseball player than guy, should be in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

But he did, remember when we had him on, he said that.

He was like, he went through a list of people, and then he said his name.

And we're like, ah.

He's like, yeah, I'm in the Hall of Very Good.

Which is a great place to be.

Very good place to be.

No disrespect, which is why Hall of Very Good is.

Which is why me and Moss didn't put Tony Romo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's too much respect.

Because, yes, disrespect.

Yes.

Yeah.

All the disrespect.

We have Marshawn Lynch, Brandon Marshall,

Cam Newton.

To top it off.

Jay Cutler.

Personal pick.

Yeah, that's personal.

Yeah, I think that's personal pick.

Yeah.

Chad Pennington.

Chad Pennington, personal pick.

Chad Pennington actually is like.

Noodle arm.

All right.

I put Clinton Portis in there, too.

Then he tested it.

Oh, yeah.

We're just doing Jets now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Clinton Portis, Champ Bailey trade.

That was like the first blockbuster trade I remember as a kid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Champ Bailey was so fucking so fucking good.

Think about that trade now.

Like, it's crazy.

That would, that would never, that would never happen.

No.

No.

Like, the best running back for the best corner in the league?

It never happens.

Never.

What means?

What never happened?

No, no, I got nothing.

Winker bet.

Okay, another jet.

Here we go.

Better football player than human.

Yeah.

All right.

Good Mount Rushmore.

So we'll see.

We have two more after this.

And we'll see if we get to a duel, what happens.

All right, let's get to our interview with Mike Florio.

We're going to talk some football with Florio.

Before we get to Mike Florio, who's brought to you by Raising Canes, week one is here.

It's time to do game day the canes way.

Whether you're tailgating or cheering from the couch, you can fuel your game day cravings with Raising Canes, cook to order, chicken fingers.

I can't wait to get back in the cave eating some Raising Canes.

That to me, that's football.

There's no better way to watch the games this football season than with Raisin Canes.

We're talking hand-battered, cooked-to-order chicken fingers, crispy crinkle-cut fries, buttery Texas toast, and the MVP of Every Bite Cane Sauce.

Don't forget those jugs of freshly brewed tea and freshly squeezed lemonade.

Keep the squad refreshed.

Big plays, big flavor.

It's how Canes does game day.

So rally your team.

Make your kickoff weekend a touchdown.

Go to RaisinCanes.com to game plan your game day meal.

Follow along on Raisin Cane's social media and all the channels for all the football fun.

Raising Cane's chicken fingers, one love.

And now here's Mike Florio.

Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very, very good friend.

It is Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk author.

And we're getting ready for the NFL season.

We are,

we have the clock right in front of us.

We're 10 days away as we're recording this.

Please, everyone, go buy his new book.

It's called Big Shield.

You can buy it on Amazon

right now.

It's out.

It's incredible.

There's no such thing as easy money.

Carson Jeffrey thought otherwise.

It allowed him to supplement his pay as a third-string pro quarterback with cash from the mob for providing inside information before and during games.

This actually, this book actually does sound right up my alley.

You said that, and I was like, yeah, whatever, dude, whatever.

You wrote this book for us.

If you ever read a book, this will be the one you read.

This This sounds awesome.

Yeah, it is.

And you know what?

It's doing really well, to my amazement.

And it's only 99 cents for the e-book.

So you can't, I mean, really, find something that's cheaper than 99 cents.

I'm a fucking idiot for selling it for 99 cents and for various other reasons, but you can steal it from me for 99 cents.

And it really is good.

Despite the fact that I wrote it, you will enjoy it.

He's giving it away for free.

Please, AWLs, help him out.

We love Mike.

I did really enjoy the other book that he wrote, Quarterback of the Future.

I still own that book, Mike.

And it's a page turner.

Have you ever gone back and read it?

Can I tell you something?

There is, and I don't want to speak out of school here, but

there is some Hollywood interest in the concept of quarterback of the future.

And

I have actually

written a script.

Yes.

that is completely different from the book because I went back and looked at the book and it was even worse than going back and looking at an old yearbook.

And I just like, you know what?

I remember enough of the story.

I'll rewrite the whole thing.

So I wrote the script and we made a pitch and you never know.

You never know.

No.

If it gets made into a movie, can me and Biguette have a cameo on that?

Because we got squeezed out of Happy Gilmore 2.

Please.

Please.

Oh, you guys are supposed to be in Happy Gilmore 2?

No, it felt like every other podcast was in it.

But no, I think that more had to do with the Rob Schneider aspect.

You're not friends with Rob Schneider, are you?

No.

Okay, good.

We're good.

We're good.

Put us in the movie.

Wait, what did you guys do to Rob Schneider?

We might have said that every time he releases a movie, an oil spill happens, and he didn't understand the joke.

It's our friend Nick Turani wrote the blog.

He didn't understand the joke that there's an oil spill basically every day in the world, and you could find it.

So he just wrote a blog being like, Did you know every time Rob Schneider has a new movie, there's an oil spill?

Didn't find it funny.

Didn't find it funny.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I find it it unfunny not because i'm offended i just don't think it's very funny well you should read the blog yeah you should it's he's a guy from wheeling who wrote the blog

then it's automatically funny anything anyone from wheeling does is automatically awesome that's facts uh all right mike let's talk some football let's start let's let's ease into it let's start with an easy question are the cleveland browns racist oh that's good that's yeah that's that's a soft call to get things started people are mad about shador which i don't really understand he was well they told their offensive line don't block as hard.

If there's a black quarterback in, don't block as hard for him as when Dylan Gabriel's in.

Yeah, this whole thing is crazy to me.

He was a fifth-round draft pick.

Like, he dropped.

It's not like

he was supposed to start.

Now he's not starting.

It's just a organizational chart of where you are in the, you know, in the depth chart.

Here's what happened.

Back in the pre-draft run-up and the combine and the interviews and all of that stuff.

And I try to stay away from that because different people will try to manipulate the news to get certain agendas out there.

I wait until the dust settles on where guys get drafted, and then I try to figure out what happened.

I was told by a very reliable source, not to be confused with my usual non-reliable sources, that the attitude from Shadur Sanders that was detected by the teams was that he was being recruited, not interviewed.

And I think that may rub people the wrong way because the teams have this mindset of you are coming to us and trying to get us to draft you as high as possible.

It shouldn't be we're trying to win you over.

And that coupled with the fact that he's not Dion.

That's the problem.

You can't show up for the pre-draft process with the attitude of, hey, take me or don't take me.

I don't care unless you are a transcendent talent like his father is.

And he didn't have an agent.

He didn't have anyone advising him on how to properly handle.

So he fell to pick number 144.

And the Browns gave him limited reps in training camp.

He had that one preseason game where he looked really good.

They're probably going to carry four guys into the regular season or at least beyond Tuesday when they have to cut the rosters down because they've viewed it as a commodity.

Hey, we can get this guy at 144 that is much better than pick number 144.

So we add him to our quarterback room.

We have an asset at the quarterback position and we can do something with these assets at some point.

I think they're going to try to trade maybe Kenny Pickett before Tuesday.

And if they can't, they'll carry four guys until maybe they can trade one of these guys.

I wouldn't rule out trading Shadura Sanders.

I don't know what they're going to do at this point, but they view their four quarterbacks as assets that can be flipped.

It's buy low, sell high.

They bought Shadur Sanders low, and now at some point, they may try to sell him high.

I don't see him playing anytime soon, but maybe they can flip him into something more than the fifth round pick they used to get it.

Yeah, so what do you think the market would be for Shadur Sanders right now?

Do you think it'd be higher than a fifth?

Well, I think if there's a team out there that was thinking about taking him round three

and they saw him play in the preseason and they saw enough from him.

And look, he doesn't have high-end physical ability, but he's got great instincts.

He knows how to step away from pressure.

He knows when to throw the ball.

He knows where to place the ball.

He's got something you can work with.

So if there's a team out there that thinks, you know, we really were close to using a third-round pick.

We could use a guy we want to develop and we're willing to part ways with a fourth-round pick or a third-round pick next year to try to get him.

I couldn't rule it out if the Browns are looking for a way to trim their quarterback room from four down to three.

And, you know, technically they have five because one of these days, Deshaun Watson is going to show up with a clean bill of health and say, play me.

He's determined to come back and play.

And that just creates an even bigger mess for the Browns because they'll either have to put him on the roster at that point or they'll have to cut him.

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't sound like it's got a clean ending at all.

So I have another question about the team that's right behind you.

You are a Vikings homer.

You're a Vikings fan at the quarterback position.

What are the Vikings doing?

Are they trying to send a message right now that JJ, he's our guy?

Like, we're just going to roll into the season.

We don't want a a quarterback that might be behind him that maybe somebody would ever claim.

Like, hey, let's start this guy instead of JJ if he has a bad couple of weeks.

I don't think that's the problem.

I think the problem recently was they don't have a guy behind him that they trust to be the number two quarterback.

So they scrap Sam Howell.

They cut Brett Rippon.

They sign.

Carson Wentz, and it's going to be J.J.

McCarthy, Carson Wentz, and Max Brosmer.

Now, they may cut Brosmer and hope he passes through waivers and put him on the practice squad.

But if they're afraid somebody somebody will claim him on waivers and they really like him, then they'll carry him on the roster.

But this was just a vote of no confidence for Sam Howell.

Too many turnovers.

And he had months to learn the offense and months to impress Kevin O'Connell.

And he clearly did.

And I think in hindsight, they'd admit they should have just signed Carson Wentz back in April and let him learn.

the offense and be there for the offseason program, be there for training camp, be there for the preseason.

Now he's going to have to take a crash course.

And hell, I won't be surprised if they make other moves because we've seen what they can do when they have to put other quarterbacks out there.

But I think this is all an indication that McCarthy is the guy.

And he looked great in one preseason game.

He's got to stay healthy, but that's the question mark.

If he's not healthy, you got to have somebody ready to go.

They weren't happy with their options behind it.

So have there been any cuts across the league that have surprised you that Mike Florio did not see coming?

So far, no, not yet.

Tuesday's the day that we'll see some surprises.

And before Tuesday, what we'll see, and we've seen it for the last week, guys getting traded for low-round picks next year.

Those are guys that were going to get cut.

If you're seeing seeing a trade happen now for a seventh-round pick or the flip of a six and a seven, I'll trade you this guy with a seven and you give me a six back.

That's a guy that was getting cut.

And the teams that are low in the waiver priority, like the Eagles who are at the very bottom, they're not going to get those guys if they're eligible for waiver claims.

If you're four years or less, you go through waivers.

Otherwise, you're a free agent.

But this is a way to go out and get that guy, give up a low-round pick, and get a guy who's going to be cut anyway.

And you've got some teams that have a surplus at certain positions and other teams that have needs.

So I expect we'll see more trades between now and Tuesday.

And then it'll be all hell-breaking loose when the rosters go like that.

There used to be two steps.

Now it goes 90 to 53.

There's going to be a lot of names that hit the market in the next two days.

Is there a name that we should be on the lookout for?

Well, that's a good question, which means I'm trying to buy time.

It doesn't.

I've learned that's what people say when they don't have an infinite.

Oh, that was a good question.

Great question is what you say to buy time.

Hey, don't.

Hey, hey, are you coming at PFT right now?

That was a good question.

I'm not.

I mean, it's, I mean, it's family.

There's no.

Are you stepping to us?

You know how this is done, Mike?

I get you to say a famous player's name, and then we make clicks because we put out a clip of the interview, and it's like, oh, Mike Florio predicts this guy's going to get cut.

No offense, Mike.

We'll fuck you up, bro.

Yeah, listen.

Listen.

I thought we were at a point where we could have fun like this.

No, that was a good question.

Okay.

I know, but I was.

Thank you.

I'm just playing.

Thank you.

Family does.

We play a little bit.

I don't think you, we don't play like that.

Not with good questions.

A clown to you?

Yeah.

Do I amuse you?

Okay, so as for PFT's good questions, please address my question.

I'm not giving you the social media, you know, blurb where I guarantee that Aaron Rodgers is going to get cut on Tuesday.

I'm not going to do that.

You would like to think we could just, we just, you just did.

Yeah, you would.

Aaron Rodgers, you said Aaron Rodgers is going to get cut on Tuesday.

Mike Florio's lip right there.

Mike Florio's take.

That's too hot for part of my take.

He doesn't even want to say it.

You know, I wonder what the Giants are going to do, though, at quarterback.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if either Jameis Winston or Russell Wilson get traded.

How do you take both of those guys and your first-round pick who looks like he's ready to go?

How do you take all three of those guys into the regular season?

That's a sitcom waiting to happen.

Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and Jackson Dart.

I won't be surprised.

Not that they're going to get cut, but I won't be stunned if one of those two guys gets traded between now and Tuesday.

There's something for you you can put on social media.

I like that.

I like that.

No one else?

No other big names?

Yeah, no, no, no.

Okay.

Mike, question for you.

Michael Parsons, he's going to sign right before Thursday Night Football, correct?

I don't know.

I really don't.

And

it's possible that the ship has sailed, that he means what he said.

It's been 23 days ago now that he posted that lengthy message on social media saying that he wants to be traded.

He's done nothing to rescind that.

Jerry Jones has gone from saying something to saying nothing to really stepping in shit, I believe, the other night with Michael Irvin.

And it's possible, it's possible if they make him the offer that he otherwise would have taken between now and the first game of the season, it's possible he'll say, what part of I want to be traded didn't you understand?

And he'll just get through this season.

He'll play maybe as little as he can, citing the back injury that's kept him out of training camp in the preseason.

He'll put in his time and he'll wait to be traded.

And from the Cowboys perspective, you know, if you trade him for a couple of first-round picks, well, you're not getting them now.

So I think the Cowboys want to try to kick the can on all of this through the season and then figure it all out in March.

And they'd love to get him to play for 24 million this year, 17 million below the market.

They're daring him to not play.

They're daring him to say, my back is keeping me from playing.

I'm going to deny myself the thing I love just to send a message to the Cowboys.

But remember this.

I mean, he's represented by David Mulligueta.

And when Jalen Ramsey decided several years ago he wanted out of Jacksonville, he just stopped playing.

He just stopped playing, and they eventually traded him.

So it all depends on how badly Michael wants out of Dallas.

I wouldn't assume that they're going to get a deal done by next Thursday.

I don't think the Cowboys want to do it.

I think the Cowboys, every once in a while, you'll hear Jerry Jones say he's under contract.

He's under contract.

I think the Cowboys want to ride out this last year of his rookie contract.

Now,

there have been teams that have obviously called the Cowboys to inquire about a trade, right?

Has Dallas, have they taken those calls?

Well, there's been no chatter whatsoever about any trade talks.

So my guess is, and the Cowboys, I think, don't want to turn this into a thing by acknowledging it.

So they're not going to tell the world that this team called, that team called that team called.

But, you know, if I'm the Bills or the Ravens and I'm serious about catching the Chiefs, why wouldn't I make that call?

If I give up two first-round picks, they're going to be late first-round picks.

Why wouldn't I make that call and see what it takes to get Micah Parsons?

I just don't think the Cowboys are entertaining it.

Jerry Jones brushed it off as a negotiating ploy the day after Micah asked to be traded.

They want to keep him.

They just want to keep him on their terms.

They want to keep him for $24 million this year.

They want to have the right to franchise tag him next year at far less than market value.

And then maybe they'll do it another time.

Jerry basically said that the other night to Michael Irvin.

So staying in the division,

my commanders, I reported that Terry was probably going to sign a contract last Wednesday.

And then I changed my report to last Friday.

My report now is that he did, in fact, sign on Friday.

It's a secret contract, and we don't know about it yet, but they're going to release the details of the secret contract soon.

What are you hearing out of Terry's camp and from the commanders?

Well, you know, the market has gone up north of 40 million with Jamar Chase, and Terry McLaurin is due to make about 16 million this year.

Now, you'll hear people say from time to time, no, he's making 25 million.

Well, his cap number is 25 million.

When you look at the actual cash he's going to receive this year, I know he's got bonus allocations that apply this year and drive the cap number up.

But from his perspective, he's making 16 million.

And the market's at 41 or just over 40.

Right.

What am I going to get?

Where do I fit in?

And I've heard numbers north of 30.

I've heard numbers north of 35.

The commanders, what are you going to pay a receiver who is going to be 30 in September?

And I think this is the key.

How many years do you want to commit?

We always hear a five-year deal worth X million a year.

What we don't hear right out of the gates, because it's usually not as favorable as the biggest number that they can put out there, which is the total value of the deal.

How much of it is guaranteed at signing?

How many years have the commanders commanders committed to?

Because we know how these contracts are.

They're not two-way.

The player's stuck.

The team can tear it up anytime they want.

The only thing that keeps the team from doing it is guarantees that go beyond the first year.

Is it two years that he wants?

Is it three years that he wants?

Where's the middle ground on what kind of commitment they're going to make to a guy who's going to turn 30 because you have to brace for the decline?

And that's what I think the root of this is.

It's not what he's already done.

It's what he's going to do going forward.

And at what point is Father Time going to start to erode his skills?

That's why they don't have a deal.

Do you think that they're going to get a deal done soon, though?

Do you think that this is going to be, because like I heard the report too, that he was asking for DK Metcalf money.

I don't think that the team is going to, I don't think any team in the NFL right now would give him the DK Metcalf contract.

Or that's to say nothing about like the Jamar Chase deal or anything like that.

Do you think that it gets done this week?

Well, I think something's got to happen this week.

Here's why.

Every hold-in has to end at some point.

If you hold out, that puts maximum pressure on the team to get it it done.

If you're there, if you're at work, at some point it's time to go to work.

Now, he's citing an injury, and one of these days, a team is going to challenge a player as to whether or not he's actually got that injury.

But that's the safest way to avoid the potential blow-up between player and team where the team just says, like the Steelers very well may have said to Cam Hayward last week, look,

it's time to get ready for week one.

And that's the issue with Terry McLaurin and with Michael Parsons.

You got to get back in time to get ready for the first game.

You can't just sign on Saturday and play on Sunday or you're potentially going to get injured.

So they need to make something happen this week or he's not going to be ready to go week one.

And, you know, the other question is,

what does the team really think about the injury that had him on the physically unable to perform list and has him still not practicing?

And look at how the commanders have handled their business here.

They haven't said anything.

Yeah.

Not a word.

Contrast that with Jerry Jones, who can't shut up about it.

So I'd like to think at some point between now and say next Sunday, the commanders make an offer and he realizes I can't say no to this.

It's going to be more than what he was due to make.

And if he says no to it, then it goes away.

So I'd like to think they'll get something done.

But it all depends on how committed he is to get 35 or north of 35 million per year in a new money average.

See, PFT was...

I mean, jokey a little bit about the secret contract.

I actually think Jerry Jones might do the secret contract.

Because wouldn't you say Jerry Jones loves the splash?

Is there a chance that Micah Parsons might be in the closed parts of practices and

when the media is not around, he is showing that he's up to speed and that this contract's going to happen on the first day of the NFL season so that he can get his big splash?

I'm not sure of very much, if anything, right now.

One thing I'm sure of is there's no way that the Cowboys and Micah Parsons are secretly in cahoots on anything.

Okay.

I just don't think they are.

And I'll tell you why.

A couple of weeks ago, ago, they had the Hollywood premiere of the new Netflix series about the Cowboys.

And I had heard that the Cowboys were planning to make him some massive new offer in the hopes of getting the deal done as part of the PR push.

This is Cowboys playbook.

Right.

They don't operate like a real team.

Yeah.

And I ran that by some folks in the know, and that's where I got this impression, you know, the ship may have sailed.

It may be over.

It may be done.

Now, I think it's very different when they put the money in front of Micah Parsons.

If they ever offer him 45 million per year and a new money average, he might decide that goes a long way toward smoothing things over and moving forward.

But right now, his mindset is, I mean, look at his demeanor the other night.

Every guy on the sideline who wasn't playing had on his jersey, Parsons didn't.

And there was that period of time, and it wasn't very long, but it was long enough for a thousand pictures of it to be taken, of him laying on the table, looking like he doesn't want to be there.

You know, whatever Jerry's doing to try to break this log jam, it's getting worse, not better.

And I think those comments from Thursday, I don't think they've gotten enough attention.

I think that they did far more harm than good, and it's going to make it even harder to repair the relationship with Michael Parsons.

Okay.

All right.

So let's do

off of current events.

Let's do a little NFL preview here.

Give me the five players.

I assume most will be quarterbacks, but it could be someone else.

Five players with the most pressure on them this season.

You know,

I felt like you you were setting me up for a fantasy.

No, I wasn't.

I wasn't.

Listen, I'm always on guard this time of year.

We haven't done that in years, Mike.

And also, Mike, I don't know if you're

talking about it every year.

I don't know if you listen.

We did a 10-hour fantasy preview on Friday.

We're still jet lagged from that.

Okay.

We've just conveniently transitioned all the shit we used to give you for fantasy football and directed it 100% at Jerry O'Connell.

Wow.

Well, that's good.

That's good.

I appreciate Jerry for that.

Now, you know, pressure is a matter of perspective.

Are you worried about getting cut?

Are you worried about your legacy?

Are you worried about justifying your contract?

I mean, I think there's a ton of pressure on Dak Prescott.

He's making $60 million a year.

He missed nine games last year with a hamstring injury, and now he's back, and he's the guy in the center of the storm.

And they would go out and get George Pickens for him.

He's got C.D.

Lamb.

There's pressure on him from the outside.

to live up to this $60 million a year contract.

So he's at the top of my list.

But then how can you not say there's pressure on Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson to finally close the gap with the Chiefs and finally deliver?

It's a shame that all those teams are clustered into the same conference and they have to deal with the Chiefs every year.

Have they closed the gap on the Chiefs?

I don't know, but I feel like Allen and Jackson, they both have a ton of pressure on them to finally get to the top of the mountain.

So those are three guys that aren't in danger of losing their jobs.

But pressure.

But there's pressure.

There's pressure heading into the season.

How can there not be?

Yeah, that's a good answer.

All right.

Give me your

and go AFC NFC here.

And it's not like a bold prediction, but last year, obviously, the Niners, they were a team that was very, very good, had Super Bowl aspirations.

The vibes were off.

Do you have a team that's a vibes are off going into the season where you're like, look, this is a good team on paper.

They've been to the playoffs, but something's a little off, and we don't know if they're going to be able to get back there.

Well, look,

I don't want to doubt the Lions because I think they feed on that.

But when you look at last season, you look at the schedule last year for all the teams in the NFC North, they played the four teams of the AFC South and the four teams of the NFC West in a down year for the NFC West.

That's eight of your games.

Eight out of 17 games as part of this rotation where every year you pick up four teams out of the NFC.

from the same division, four teams out of the AFC from the same division.

This year, this year, the NFC North teams play all the teams of the AFC North, all the teams of the NFC East.

It's going to be tougher.

The Lions have lost both coordinators, and I know they're doing their best to downplay that.

They're trying to turn that into motivation.

But how is it not going to be a factor?

It's just change.

Even if the new coaches end up doing as well as the guys who they're replacing, it's change for the players.

Continuity is so important in football.

And I think...

It may have reached a critical mass for the Lions, and they're going to have their hands full.

They still have a target on their backs.

They've never done anything in the grand scheme of things, haven't gotten to a Super Bowl.

And last year, you have that special season that culminates in the one seed, and then you lose to the commanders in the divisional round, and then you get thrown back into what Dennis Green used to call the valley of zero and zero.

Good luck.

Good luck climbing out of that and fulfilling this promise that everybody assumes you're going to fulfill.

I think the Lions, I'm not saying they won't get it done, but I feel like the vibe is off and it's up to them to get the vibe back on quickly.

That's a good answer.

What about AFC?

Is there a team?

Well,

you know, the Texans Texans

underwent a lot of change.

It's pouring down rain here, too.

You're going to hear it hitting the metal roof.

The Texans basically.

Well, it's a metal.

I mean, it's metal.

It's not like,

dude.

It's flat.

You own them.

It's way more expensive than wood.

So anyway,

the Texans fired the offensive coordinator.

They were sluggish last year offensively.

They've got, I think, 60% new offensive line.

So they're just one of those teams you want to watch because I think the other teams in the division could be better.

I think the Titans, I think Campbell has a chance to be pretty good.

And they're kind of like the Texans two years ago where no one's paying attention to them.

All their games are at one o'clock Eastern on Sunday.

They'll win the games.

They're supposed to win.

Lose the games.

They're supposed to lose.

Next thing you know, they're going to be in playoff position with four games left.

So between the Colts, if this Daniel Jones thing works, the Jaguars, if the new coach can get more out of Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr.

continues his ascent to superstard him and Travis Hunter helps out.

And then you throw on the Titans.

It could be harder for the Texans this year.

Although I think the Texans will be fine.

I look at them and I say, you know, they're going to have to prove it a little bit before people are going to believe it.

Okay, I like that.

And also, you know,

their

wide receiver room is not what it was last year to start the season because you got Tank Dell's injury.

Stephon Diggs is gone.

Like,

it might be a little bit harder for them to get it going.

And look at how important Nico Collins is to that.

He gets last year, and they were completely different without him.

And Joe Mixon is still still on the non-football injury list for something he did away from the field that has kept him from being involved in anything.

A lot of eggs in the Nick Chubb basket who had that horrible knee injury a couple of years ago.

I thought maybe they would be the team that traded for Brian Robinson with Washington before the 49ers did the deal.

I feel like they need help in the running game because I don't know when we're going to see Joe Mixon.

That's been one of those weird stories that hasn't really been discussed much because he's not around and we talk about the people who are around.

But this Joe Mixon thing is weird, and that could really hurt the offense.

Look at the kick he gave them last year.

That may be gone for at least the first six weeks or more of this season.

That's good.

That's a good answer.

Let's look at the AFC West.

Is this the year that somebody unseats the Chiefs?

I know Sims thinks the Broncos are going to knock them off and win the division.

I think they're going to have a hands full.

The Broncos, look at how good that defense is.

And we know what Sean Payton does with his offenses.

Bo Nick's in year two.

They added the running back Harvey that they really like.

They get J.K.

Dobbins, who, when he's healthy, is one of the best running backs in the league.

They've got great receivers.

Vance Joseph's still there.

He had some head coaching buzz.

He's there running that defense for another year.

Continuity.

That's the key.

You have a good season.

You don't lose your coaches.

You have continuity.

Broncos will be a lot better.

Chargers, you know, last year felt flat because they lost in the playoffs to the Texans, but they were surprisingly good.

in the regular season.

And I'm never going to count out Pete Carroll.

I know that they're in a tough spot, and they could be much better than they were last year and still finish fourth in the division, but I'm not counting the Raiders out.

They're going to get the Chiefs fits.

I mean, the Chiefs are going to have their hands full this year.

It may be one of the reasons why we saw Patrick Mahomes playing three drives in the final preseason game.

They're doing everything they can to get ready because they know this season is going to be a meat grinder.

Is this the year that somebody unseats the Chiefs in the AFC West?

I'm going to say no.

Come on, go ahead.

Take your fancy social media graphic.

Florio guarantees lightning, too.

Not good to be under a metal roof when it's lightning.

You guys may have a moment like the Drew Brees moment that was fake.

Mine might be real.

That would be awesome.

I thought that's how you get power in West Virginia.

That would be awesome if you got struck by lightning right now.

21 jiggle once.

Yeah, no, I mean, the Chiefs are interesting.

I'm not going to bet against the Chiefs in the AFC West, but that is also a team.

I always like to look at teams that won a lot of close games.

And a lot of the NFL season is like, are you having one of those seasons where the ball bounces your way and all these one-score games, you find a way to win?

Obviously, good teams do find that way to win, but a couple

weird bounces, you know, that game, was it last year, the game where they blocked the kick against the Broncos at the end of the game?

Right.

Like some of these games that feel like they're 50-50 and they make that one play, that's a lot of credit to them.

But it's also like, hey, you could have a season like the 49ers last year where shit just goes wrong and everything kind of falls apart.

And you're like, how'd this happen?

And here's the reality.

And look, it's bad form to name names of guys who, if they get injured, it's going to change everything.

But we know guys are going to get injured and it's going to change everything.

How Christian McCaffrey last year, we found out 90 minutes before kickoff of their week one Monday night game that he wasn't playing because of this Achilles issue that we were led to believe was no big deal.

And we hardly see him last year.

And when he comes back and plays, he gets a knee injury.

So we don't know where that bug is going to bite, but it could change things.

And, you know, the Chiefs need to stay healthy.

They need to get this Rashi Rice thing figured out.

He's going to be around for the first four or five, probably six games.

And then how long is he going to miss after that?

Will he get back in time for the playoffs?

That's hanging over them.

But they've created a vibe the last few years where they thrive on that stuff.

Like they love playing every day of the week.

They love playing in prime time.

They love all these weird shit that goes on because it prepares them.

Maybe for those moments where it comes down to one play, but they've learned how to bend victory their their way in the regular season and in the postseason.

I mean, look, the Eagles knew if we're going to beat them in the Super Bowl, we can't just try to win on a walk-off field goal.

We got to stomp them.

We got to be up by 20.

We can't let them come back because if they're within two scores, they are going to come back.

Yeah, more teams should do that.

Go up 20 against the Chiefs.

That's the formula.

It's easy

if we can build the 20-point lead.

That's the hard part.

All right, I got a softball for you here, Mike.

The 20-point point lead is easier than building it.

Yes.

We'll get back to Floria in a second.

He's brought to you by Chevy.

For over a century, Chevy has been building trucks that don't flinch and never quit.

Whether you're hauling lumber on the job or you're trying to get the smoker, the cooler, the cornhole boards, and the whole crew to the tailgate on time.

Chevy gets you there.

When Chevy says most dependable truck, they're not just speculating.

Chevy trucks have earned more dependability awards for trucks than any other leading brand, according to JD Power 2025.

It sounds like they've got the stats to prove it.

The Chevy Silverado is a great truck.

It's our favorite truck to drive around.

It's also the sponsor of the Low Man Trophy awarded to the nation's top collegiate fullback.

And the Chevy Silverado is the fullback of trucks in every Chevy truck.

Dependability comes standard.

For more on Chevy trucks, visit Chevy.com and visit jdpower.com/slash awards for more award details.

And now here's more Mike Florio.

Softball, softball question for you.

What does the P in PFT stand for?

The P?

Yeah, the first letter.

Oh, pro.

What are you doing?

Why are you writing all these articles about Jordan and Bill Belichick?

He's not a professional coach.

He's a college coach.

And

you seem to have a hard-on, excuse the language, for Jordan, but not in the good way.

You seem to be convinced that she did everything that she could to submarine the behind-the-scenes documentary.

And

it turns out that that documentary is happening.

So, would you like to apologize to Jordan?

Look, I'm a businessman at the end of the day, and I can see my real-time traffic, and I know the stories that people read.

And I have held my powder far more often than not with Jordan's stories.

Every once in a while, I got to do it because I know what the people want.

They want to read about Belichick and Jordan, and they want to read about Shador Sanders.

And, you know, sometimes you just got to give people a cookie.

I mean, bakeries sell cookies, and sometimes we're a bakery.

I like that.

I like that.

So, you don't want to apologize to Jordan?

I don't feel the need to apologize to anyone.

When I feel the need to apologize to someone, I almost always do.

Almost always.

But it seems like she was right.

She got the deal done.

Well, but she blew up the deal with HBO and NFL Films.

Will you agree that that would have been a far bigger deal?

Probably.

Probably got more money.

Probably got that Disney money from Hulu.

Yeah.

So.

All right, Mike, let's take the gloves off real quick.

Two-part question.

Hank, sit up, please.

Hi, Hank.

Will there be a Super Bowl in London in our lifetime, and are you opposed to it or are you for it?

I'm opposed to it, but I think it's going to happen.

Okay, so, all right, so we can work with that because Hank is a trader and he wants there to be a Super Bowl in London.

We think it's absolutely anti-American and bullshit.

But you're telling us, because I think PFT and I both see the writing on the wall, they're going to make us do this.

They're going to do it, right?

I remember when they played a regular season game at Wembley the first time, Dolphins, Giants, 2007, I believe.

People were like, what the fuck are they doing?

Well, you turn it on and it looks the same.

Now, the grass was horrible that day.

I mean, other than the guys slipping and sliding around it, which basically was Super Bowl, what, 58.

So, you know, maybe it does look like it.

it does when they play here but it looks the same on tv and for the super bowl like how many people actually go to the Super Bowl?

Oh, no.

No.

Just watch it at all.

They're going to justify it.

They're going to justify it because they want to globalize the sport.

They want to do it and they understand that it takes a commitment and that regular season games are just part of it.

They want to get to 16 regular season games each year.

They're toying with the idea of putting teams, four teams in Europe, a four-team division.

Logistically, it will be a challenge, but it fulfills the goal of the money.

Look at how they're all in with flag football.

they didn't just suddenly discover flag football is cool they see that as a way to advance the agenda of globalizing the sport so yeah i i can't rule out at some point in our lifetimes maybe yours more than mine since you know big cat i'm 10 years older than you but but but 70 mike

i'm 60.

but um the the the idea that the big man moo money changes everything money drives everything it's all about the money and i think at some point they'll do it.

So I just think,

but you, you think it's bullshit, right?

Like, you like, it's bullshit.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I don't.

Don't you want the sport to be globalized, Mike?

Like, that's good for you and your website.

Oh, absolutely.

It's good for me, but at what cost?

Like, we can globalize the sport without what cost.

It looks the same on TV without giving up the Super Bowl.

And also, Mike doesn't necessarily want all that foreign traffic.

Not all traffic is good traffic.

Yeah, they don't have to get like translator apps.

Yeah.

I don't know how that would even work.

We do have, we do have the famous English to American translator.

I should be pandering more to the UK on this.

I should be saying I want to have a Super Bowl there because our morning show is televised by Sky because it's all tied in under Comcast and Sky and common ownership and whatever.

And we have a, we have like a ton of passionate people that love our show, that love the way we approach it, that watch the show.

So, and we've been wanting to go over there.

I just don't have a passport.

That's another story.

But I mean, what are you, Alvis?

Why don't you have a passport?

I've had no, I've had no need to leave the country.

Okay, I've had 60 years, no need.

I've had no need to leave.

There's a lot of great stuff in the United States.

Yeah.

We just don't like, we don't like the idea of giving up the Super Bowl.

I don't know.

Super Bowl is America.

I don't like it at all.

My long-term prediction is this.

There will be a Super Bowl played overseas at some point, and there will be 20 regular season games.

Okay.

No preseason games.

Okay.

And 40 teams.

Wow.

That will happen.

That sounds like we're getting into the territory of

Hogs.

It's a lot of football.

That's a lot of football.

I like the more football.

But you give me those.

I might be okay.

If they don't have preseason games, week one is going to suck.

Week two is probably going to suck.

It already

sucks.

I'm still going to watch it.

Yeah,

it already is bad football.

I am going to watch it, but I don't like the idea of the Super Bowl being overseas.

The Super Bowl is a uniquely American tradition that should stay in America.

Put it first things first, have the Super Bowl on President's Day weekend first, and then let's worry about going overseas.

You know, under the current scheduling formula, it will be a couple of times.

Yep.

Yeah.

The way it falls.

And so if they go to 18 games,

there will be years that it overshoots President's Day weekend unless they start Labor Day weekend.

And if they go to 18 games and two buys, it's always going to overshoot President's Day weekend unless they start Labor Day weekend.

What do you guys think of that?

they haven't started labor day weekend since 2001 because everybody's out for one last summer weekend and not watch football well that was before we all started carrying around our tv sets with us like i think they could play on labor day weekend again wouldn't absolutely yeah i definitely think that they could um i think that it's important to have labor day weekend where you might not be attached to your phone as much because people are flying.

And if you're on a plane that doesn't have live TV, that's going to suck that weekend.

Yeah, but it's Sunday.

You're not flying on Sunday, Labor.

Some people could fly on Sunday.

Fly on Monday, get home from Monday night football.

But I, I don't, look, I understand why they got away from it.

I don't know why they resist going back to it.

And maybe at some level, they're not.

It's so big now.

Yeah.

And numbers keep getting larger and larger.

And hey, you know, despite the flaws, some of which are laid out in Big Shield, even though it's not about the NFL for legal reasons, they are the king.

And they keep getting larger and larger.

And to Hank's point, they want to infect the rest of the world with the virus that we've had for years now.

I remember when I was a kid, baseball was clear number one, and football was distant number two.

And football took over.

And every time that I mention the possibility of one of these days football being as popular as soccer, people lose their shit.

But I'm sure the NFL at some level wants to try.

They may not get there.

but they want to try.

They just want to get bigger.

So, Mike, I want to ask you about owners.

So, what is the next team that's going to be up for sale?

The Seahawks at some point are going to be for sale.

Jodi Allen is handling the estate of her brother, one of the Microsoft founders, Paul Allen.

And there's no deadline in his will for her to sell the assets off.

She can basically do it whenever she wants, and all the money goes to his charities.

She's selling the Portland Trailblazers.

They, like the Seahawks, had not been for sale for years.

And I heard, and I don't know whether this is true, and I hate dabbling in things that I just hear from people who call me up and say, I heard heard this.

But I did hear that at one point she was looking to package the two and decided not to do it.

So deal for the Blazers.

Seahawks, I think, will be the next team that is available.

And I also can't rule out the fact that as the values keep going up and up and up, one of these owners is going to say, you know what?

I've had enough.

I'll take 10 billion.

and I'll move on.

I've had my fun.

I've, I don't know, you know,

had good seasons.

I've had, I've gotten what I want out of this.

I'll sell to somebody.

I'll take the money off the table and,

you know, and just liquidate this thing and sell high.

I bought low and now I'm going to sell high.

Yeah, go for the sunset.

Mike, let's look ahead.

Again, another like kind of preview question.

Three worst teams in the NFL this year when we're looking at the draft next year.

I want to be careful here because in 2021, I said the Bengals have no chance to make the playoffs and they almost won the Super Bowl in in 2023.

I said the Texans have no chance to make the playoffs and they made it to the Final Eight.

Any team can make the playoffs.

With 17 games and seven teams per conference, any team can have the Dominoes fall just right for them.

But, but I would be very concerned if I was a fan of the Dolphins.

Yep.

I would be extremely concerned if I'm a fan of the Browns.

I would find something else to do on Sunday if I was a fan of the Saints.

So those are the three to come to mind.

And I don't want to say the Dolphins are going to be among the worst.

I just think

they're one of the teams most likely to really disappoint their fan base, who seem to think everything's fine.

I think if you look closely at that team right now, it's like

things seem off.

And I think if they slow and Tyree Kill has like two catches in week four, he's going to blow a gasket again.

I think he's a guy who could be traded.

He could be the Devontae Adams this year.

He could get traded to a contender if the Dolphins start

not well and he's not happy with his overall workload and his catches and his numbers.

I could see them deciding to trade him before the deadline.

I agree about the Dolphins.

That's a bad vibe team.

That feels like a team that could go, it could go south quickly.

Especially.

Hey, the Jets are another one.

I feel like the Jets are going to be better eventually with Aaron Glenn.

I just feel like there's so much work to do to get the personnel in place to run the team the way he wants it.

Look, it took the Lions a while with Dan Campbell.

They weren't good this first year.

I think the Jets are going to be fine long term as long as they can keep Woody Johnson from meddling.

And so far, they've done it.

But I don't think it's a quick fix potentially because I just don't think they have the players necessary to do what Aaron Glenn's looking for.

Look at all the guys they've trained.

They trained for like a couple of defensive tackles last week.

Like, they're looking for guys that better fit what Aaron Glenn's trying to do.

I think memes agrees with you.

I don't think memes is upset at all by that.

Yeah.

Memes?

Good take, Mike.

Good take, Mike.

Yeah, memes, you don't hate Florio anymore as much, right?

No, he's fine for now.

He's gone down in the Florio ranking.

Who's the number one Florio?

Rossini's always up there.

He's still number one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Warren Sharp, also.

Warren Sharp's high Florio.

He's just engagement farming with Justin Fields.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

All right.

So he's like third Florio right now?

Yeah.

Okay.

You got to step those numbers up, Mike.

You got to say worst things about the guests.

Should I grow that really cool mustache?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

You look good.

Who was the guy that played uh auto in a fish called Wanda?

Kevin Klein.

I should get that really cool.

You're 70 years old, yeah, yeah.

Oh, hey, Mike, me and Hank,

you know what?

My hair is not colored, and it's like mainly like for the most part.

If you look at it the right way, it's dark.

I would be like full-blown Santa Claus if I didn't shave.

That'd be good.

I would love to see Mike.

Can we make a beard bet this year?

No, my wife would kill me.

If the Saints make the playoffs, you have to grow a beard.

All right.

Okay,

that was easy.

Mike, me and Hank have a bet that that the Patriots will not make it to the Super Bowl in the next two years.

And Hank owes me $50,000 if they don't.

How safe is my money?

What kind of odds did he, I mean, it was a straight bet like two years ago.

Two years?

Yeah.

I think they're going to be a lot better.

I think they got the right coach.

I just think that there's, just like with the Jets, you got a lot to do to undo the damage.

to the roster that was done later years at Belichick and even last year.

There's a chance Drake May is going to be the only 2024 draft pick on the roster week one.

So it wasn't just Belichick, it was the Gerard Mayo-Elliott Wolf thing.

So I just think that

they have a way to go to get to the team that Vrabel wants to be.

But I think they're going to be in good hands with Vrabel.

I think this is the job he's always wanted.

I think they are on the rise.

I don't know that I'm ready to say they're going to win the Super Bowl the next two years.

Okay.

Let me get you on the record for who are Mike's MVPs?

Who should the MVP been for the 2025 season, Mike?

The MVP for this year?

For this year?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I feel like it's if Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are healthy and Joe Burrow, it's going to be one of those three.

It all depends upon their teams.

I mean, wouldn't Burrow have been the MVP last year?

Yeah.

Would have been close to the division.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I think it's going to be one of those quarterbacks.

I mean, we're living in a time where there are some great quarterbacks.

Like, the best of the best quarterbacks are as good as we've ever seen.

And we've got some young guys that maybe can match them.

We'll see.

But Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Jackson, good Lord.

I mean, that's as good of a force of quarterbacks we've ever seen.

And they're all in the same conference.

Since we're talking about quarterbacks, this popped in my head because I'm looking at the week one lines, which always gets me excited.

Kyler Murray, remember him?

Does he kind of stink?

No, look, he had that torn ACL, and I think it took him a while.

to recover from it.

I think it takes anybody that, you know, when your game is premised on speed and agility and you tear your acl it's going to take some time to get back to the guy you used to be the cardinals are one of those teams this year where people are like hey you know maybe they can they can you know thread the needle and get to the playoffs i'll believe it when i see it but this is year three for jonathan gannon and monty austin for it and fun fact about the cardinals they've been around for like 200 years no one has ever coached that team more than six years the record is held The record is held by Jim Hannafin and Ken Wisenhunt.

Wow.

Orians came one year short of matching them, but nobody's done more than six years.

This is year three for Jonathan Gannon.

And I don't know that it's up or out, but

let's see.

And for Kyler Murray, it's a big year because after this year, they're closer to the point where they can move on from his contract, maybe trade him.

I think that this is a big year.

We're talking about guys under pressure.

Murray may be under the kind of pressure where if he doesn't deliver this year, the Cardinals go in a different direction at quarterback.

Yeah, I just feel like Kyler Murray's kind of forgotten in that, like, we'll see him make some incredible plays, but then there'll be some big moments.

Like, Like, what the hell is he doing there?

And it just doesn't feel, it doesn't feel like he's taking an injury is a fair point.

It doesn't feel like he's taking that next step where it's like, oh, shit, he is a true franchise quarterback that you can trust every, you know, week in and week out.

And it's year seven.

Like at some point, you just are who you are and you're not going to be anything better.

You know, when Brock Purdy did his long-term contract and I said he's a middle-of-the-pack quarterback, you know, 49ers fans get pissed off about it.

There's no shame in being better than everyone in the world at quarterback than like 12 people.

That's pretty fucking good.

And Kyler Murray is in that cluster somewhere between 10 and 20, and that's probably where he's always going to be.

Yeah, speaking of,

and not a shot, because this is no shame in his career either, but where's Kirk Cousin?

Is Kirk Cousins going to play for anyone else this year?

Is there a chance that Kirk Cousins starts for another team that gets desperate, that loses their quarterback in the first month or a half of the season?

That's his key.

There's got to be an injury.

He's a good option.

Yeah.

And you got to have a team that doesn't say next man up because a lot of times when the injury happens, they got to back up ready to go.

I've been watching the Rams lately because this whole Matthew Stafford thing, like what's up with his back?

And they were trying to.

Let the whole thing like go away and be done and resolved.

And he'd be good to go for the season.

And it would never be a discussion point.

That's not the issue now.

The issue now is just survival.

Let's get him to the season.

Let's get him through the season.

It feels like at some point, Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be playing.

But if they would ever get to the point where he's shut down, I don't know.

Are you better off trading for Kirk Cousins?

Sean McVay and Cousins go back to their time together in Washington when McVay was the offensive coordinator.

Are you better off with Cousins?

Are you better off with Garoppolo?

But it's going to be a situation like that where somebody loses their quarterback for the year.

They do a deal with the Falcons.

They're going to have to work out the money because the Falcons are going to unload some, but they're going to have to pay some.

But yeah, I feel like that thing is just a matter of time

if there's the right opportunity.

And we're just going to wait and they're going going to wait for the right opportunity to pop up between now and the Tuesday after week nine.

I think he might play this year.

I think the scenario that Big Cat laid out there, I think that's probably going to happen.

Because if I'm Sean McVay and my options are Jimmy Garoppolo or Kirk Cousins, I'm picking up a phone, I'm calling Kirk Cousins.

Yeah, or if this Niners have a situation, like, again, we don't talk about injuries, but that's another Kirk Cousins obviously has ties to

Kyle Shanahan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They have Michael McCorkle-Jones, who they really like.

But, but that's one thing.

okay

sign him is the backup it's it's the other thing to say all right go ahead and play I think Shanahan would make the call for cousins if he and I see this is I'm violating my own rule of not naming the names of guys who may be out for the season you're wishing injuries on people the 49ers would need a quarterback for the rest of the year for whatever reason maybe Brock Purdy just decides I've had enough football and I'm retiring whatever the reason may be there's another social media graphic you can use whatever the reason would be then then i think the 49ers would want kirk cousins yeah i think vikings would want him if the vikings were

starter for the whole year.

Yeah.

You sound like you're threatening them almost.

You're like, it'd be a real shame if anything happened to Brown.

Your Italian's coming out.

You got a pretty good quarterback there to be ashamed of something that happened to him.

Let me ask you about a story that you're very passionate about that I think the entire internet really, really cares about a lot, Mike.

Tom Brady's rules for broadcasting, now that he's an owner.

Have we got an update on any of that?

Is any of that still pissing you off?

Well, look, there was a time where things like conflicts of interest mattered.

There was a time where things like, you know, truth mattered.

I, I don't know, it was a quaint time back when I was a kid and I was learning lessons from my parents.

It's just amazing how you can have this obvious conflict of interest and nobody cares.

And that's fine.

If those are the rules and nobody cares, then let's all go have a bunch of conflicts of interest and, you know, it's not an issue anymore.

So maybe that's the message.

Maybe we shouldn't care.

Maybe we should just say we should have a bunch of conflicts of interest.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm fine with that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We, we, a part of my take, we are never biased.

Uh, we're unbiased about everything.

I think when you hear us, we talk in a truthful manner.

We don't let our bias show.

Like, Kyle Schwerber should be the MVP this year.

Ashton Genty, a great running back.

Glad that he got a good home in Vegas, but probably not the Heisman from last year.

Right.

These are just facts that we're stating.

We have no ulterior motives.

Okay.

What's that miss?

Nothing.

Yeah.

Okay.

No, you believe us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's right.

It doesn't matter.

Because the truth doesn't matter, Mike.

The truth doesn't matter.

What about the NFL PA stuff that you've been working on?

Because you and Pablo have done some actual Capital J journalism, but I'm so confused as to what's happening right now.

Where are we at?

Tell us the paperwork you've been reading, Mike.

As I've told Pablo on his own podcast, journalism sucks.

It's hard.

It's difficult.

Like, he had some proposition that he had eight sources for.

It's like, dude, that's too many sources.

Thank you for your service, by the way.

But

I believe that the NFL is best served if there's balance between management and labor.

And if it gets too far out of balance, it sets the stage for a potential work stoppage.

So, you know, you want there to be a strong union, and it can't be everybody getting along.

There has to be some tension.

It's not a partnership.

It was never a partnership.

And you can't have NFLPA executive directors who think they're going to forge a partnership with the owners.

It's just not going to happen.

They're going to shake your hand.

And with the free hand, they're going to stab you in the back if they can get away with it.

That's just the way it is.

They're ruthless, successful business people.

You need to have somebody who's willing to fight them when the opportunity to fight arises.

And this whole thing flowed from the fact that the NFL had a partial win against the league in a collusion case and they shoved it in a desk drawer and left it there for five months and they were going to bury it.

indefinitely.

That's what Pablo found.

That's what I was banging the drum to find.

And that kind of started.

That was the first domino that swept the executive director out of the union.

Now, there was a lot of great reporting from Don Van Natta Jr.

and Kalen Kaler of ESPN that fueled it.

But the first domino that was flicked was: let's find this collusion ruling because we know it's out there.

And for whatever reason, no one's talking about it.

So there's just some stuff that needs to happen.

And football fans don't care because they want their football, but you also don't want a strike or a lockout to take away all or part of a football season.

That means the two sides need to have a healthy, they need to have a healthy tension.

And if they have a healthy tension, there's never going to be that mutually assured destruction of a season of football being lost.

And I always tell fans this, because fans line up behind the owners.

Well, he's pointing at us, guys.

The owners are the ones, I'll stop pointing.

The owners are the ones that will take football away from you for a full season.

They're the ones who would do it without blinking.

The players won't take it away from you for a weekend.

So think about that when you just kind of blindly line up behind the owners and get mad at the players because the players are making too much money.

No, we're a player-first podcast.

And I also want to say this is going to be a compliment.

We're going to navigate our way there.

So just follow me.

Your reporting, Pablo's reporting, been great.

I

am too stupid to read all the things that you guys write about this.

It's a bunch of names I don't know.

It's a bunch of dealings I don't understand.

It's like a lot of associate executives directors of things.

Yeah.

And then I can't, I don't know really what their jobs are, but they sound like assholes.

The premise of the entire thing is the guy's expensive strip club uh experience and i'm like dude dudes rock that's fine by me uh but i do think that you're doing something important i'm just when you say hey we're a bakery i'm coming for the cookie i want to hear about your dor sanders and jordan you called me up that night before one of the shows

explain it to you like you were five and i did and then you called me out for explaining it to you like you were five because i still didn't understand it i was just like this when you were explaining to me like i was five i was like this is the worst bedtime story of all time.

It's so boring.

But yeah, I do appreciate you doing it because like it is,

and I mean this in a heartfelt way.

Guys like you, guys like, you know, Pablo, Don Vanatis, Seth Wickersham, a lot of reporters, like.

They actually are very important for our people who are listening right now because if they don't do these things, the NFL will get away with a lot of things that they don't want people to know about.

And we will have a stoppage.

And that would fucking suck.

Jay Glazer told me years ago that 95% of the journalism in sports media, specifically the NFL, isn't really journalism.

It's just getting a five-minute heads up on something that's going to be announced anyway.

The only true journalism is finding out the shit that they don't want us to know.

And when I skip over something like that, that's just great because that's what they don't want people to know.

If they don't want people to know, there's got to be a reason for it.

So let's find it out and let's share it with the world.

Let's put a spotlight on it.

So, what was the reason that the NFLPA, the leadership, was like just burying all this stuff?

What were they trying to get?

Was it just like they had a deal on the side with him?

No, I think it was a combination of

Lloyd Howell, the former executive director, thinking that, you know, we'll buddy up to and be partners with the league.

That was part of it.

And also the last executive director, DeMorris Smith, his agenda was to fight, to litigate, to sue.

He's the one who brought the collusion case.

And Lloyd's attitude was, no, he fights too much.

He sues too much.

So

something that DeMorris Smith started ends up proving that they were trying to collude when it comes to fully guaranteed contracts after Deshaun Watson did his deal.

It's kind of like, yeah, let's not talk about that very much because that makes the other guy look good.

It makes it look like the other guy had the right idea and we've got the wrong idea.

I think that was a big part of it.

That makes a lot of sense.

Also, I'm now remembering some of the reading of this.

Lloyd Howell is just an unbelievably boring name.

Like, if you tell me, hey, here's the story about Lloyd Howell, I'm like, no, thank you, dude.

I don't want to hear it.

We got to change his name to something better, something more salacious.

Lloyd Howell has never done anything worth reading in his entire life.

What's his middle name?

You agree, right, Mike?

That's a boring name.

If I told you, here's the main character's name is Lloyd Howell, I want to put a bullet in my head.

The best fact as it relates to the Lloyd Howell experience, other than the idea that he thought that he could get away with charging strip club expenditures to official union business, he had his parking spot at the union.

He had it turned into a double spot because he didn't want to get door dings on his Porsche cayenne.

That's awesome.

He wanted the number of the parking spot changed to 32 in honor of Orinthal Jay Simpson.

Oh, wow.

Okay, Lloyd Howell is a bad boy.

But yeah, he's still got a boring name.

Yeah, I wish he doesn't even have a middle name.

So he's got nothing else.

This guy's kind of suspicious right now, Mike.

He should just adopt Orinthal.

He should.

He should just become the new OJ.

All right, Mike.

I got one last question for you.

It's always good to talk to you, do a little preview of the NFL season.

We're so excited for NFL to be back.

Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE.

20% off your first purchase.

Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, everything.

Roback.com.

They make the best stuff ever.

And Jameis is also a spokesman for Roeback now.

So, Roback.com, promo code TAKE.

Give us your championship Sunday and Super Bowl and Super Bowl winner.

I assume you've done it.

You're ready for this season to start, ready to start talking real football.

So I assume you have it, but give us those picks.

I haven't done it yet.

I wait as late as possible because you never know when somebody's going to blow out an ACL the last week before week one.

I usually wait until next Tuesday.

I'll say, and God, I don't want it to be Chiefs and Eagles again.

I really don't.

Let's say.

And

who knows?

And if you get it right, nobody gives a shit.

If you get it wrong, you get called names.

It's a no-win proposition.

i'll say

can i give you a tip can i give you a tip before you give us your pick well if you get it wrong it's it was just a joke oh okay so it's all just a joke that's what we do yeah and there was a time where i thought you know every year in the super bowl like one team makes it that we expected and another team makes it that we didn't expect the team that i picked to make it that no one expected was washington and and like i i like for three years people were giving me shit about that it's like who i mean you know who knows that's the point who the knows who's going to make it?

That's part of the fun.

When was this?

Because, yeah, that was a bad pick.

It was a while ago.

It was a bad pick.

Like 2007.

It might have been that long.

Okay.

But the NFL is very top-heavy now.

You've had some teams that have cracked the code on free agency salary cap.

They have very good teams.

And I really don't want it to be the Chiefs and the Eagles again.

I really don't.

But these other teams are going to have to prove it.

I'll say Chiefs Ravens in the AFC Championship and Eagles

49ers in the NFC Championship, Eagles, Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

Wow, round three

than we expect.

You think who's going to be better?

49ers.

I think they're going to be better than people expect.

Yeah, I do too.

I think last season was just kind of an anomaly of everything that could go wrong went wrong, and we kind of forgot about them.

At that point, if the Chiefs beat the Ravens again, if they beat him in the AFC Championship game,

what will we be saying about Lamar Jackson?

Well, I mean,

what the haters will be saying is he can't win the big one.

And,

you know,

you've got a contract issue between him and the Ravens looming.

I don't know if he ever decides he wants to go somewhere else, but if he would play out this contract,

his cap number would make his franchise tag ridiculously high.

He really could put in three more years with the Ravens and then go get a fresh start wherever he wanted to.

So after this year, if it doesn't work, he's two seasons away from going wherever he wants.

Now, he'd be early 30s, but we see these quarterbacks playing until 40.

He could.

If he decides, I'm just going to finish this deal.

He could do it.

And

by all appearances and based on his current contract and the cap numbers, he'd become a free agent in three seasons.

And wouldn't that be something?

Yeah.

If Lamar Max is available to any team that wants him.

Well, we already saw that movie once.

Yeah.

At least then it would have come with two first-round picks.

This would be free and clear.

All right, Mike.

You're the best.

Everyone, please go buy Mike's new book.

We love Mike.

He's one of our favorite guests.

Go buy it on Amazon right now, The Big Shield.

He is on the board.

I'm going to send you guys copies too.

Yes.

I just want to read them, but I'm going to send you copies so you will have something to not read.

Yeah.

I like to look at it.

So I'm going to put it on my coffee table.

Yeah.

I'll walk by it every day.

It's like, wow.

Son, I'll send you the quarterback of the future script.

I'll take your notes.

Yeah.

I mean,

if you haven't read the book, it's, I hope you kept in the part about the quarterback being a time traveler.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was kind of the whole point.

So he goes back in time to like the 1970s.

To like the 1970s, right?

Yeah, it's 1960.

But that part remained because that was kind of the gist of the whole story.

But

we have some interest, but one thing I've learned about like trying to adapt books into films or series, I don't know how anything gets made.

I have no idea.

There are so many hoops that you have to fucking jump through to get something made.

I don't know how anything makes it.

If you want notes on the script, I'm happy to provide them.

You also have have to write a part of our book, too.

Yeah.

I'm happy to do it.

I was offended you hadn't asked me.

You asked Dan Patrick.

It didn't ask me.

No, we just went to the next step.

We want to ask you face to face.

Yeah, yeah.

So you're going to do it.

Maybe multiple chapters.

I'll do it.

I'll write the whole thing.

Okay, great.

Yeah, deal.

Awesome.

All right, Mike.

You're the best.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mike.

Mike Florio is brought to you by Proper 12.

It's PFT here making my Irish entrance with proper number 12 Irish whiskey.

How do you make an Irish entrance, you might ask?

It It starts with a shot of proper number 12 Irish whiskey because real friends don't let French Irish exit a party without a story to tell.

Original Proper Number 12 is a rich and smooth blend of golden grain and single malt, aged 4 years, in bourbon barrels.

You can mix it up with some ginger ale, get a classic and refreshing proper ginger, or if you're in the mood for something smooth but a little sweeter, try proper Irish Apple.

It's a delicious blend of proper's award-winning Irish whiskey with crisp, fresh notes of apple.

So get out there, make your Irish entrance.

Anything else just wouldn't be proper.

Make your Irish entrance with proper number 12, Irish whiskey.

Okay, let's wrap up.

Good show, boys.

Colton, how you doing?

Can you get Colton on?

Colton, how you doing?

Wait, Colton, are you wearing the 4X

Alvin Kamara?

I am.

4X.

Alvin Kamara.

Is it Kamara or Kamara?

It's Kamara?

Both.

I've been saying it wrong.

What numbers is it?

Three.

Fuck you.

Colton doesn't even know he's just a pawn in the game.

I am interested in the shirt, Colton, but that was just.

No, he's not.

You were a pawn in that game right there.

Fair.

That was just a little dance we were playing.

Anything for the lottery.

Yeah.

22.

Wait, wait, wait.

Keep talking.

So it's 4X?

4X.

How does it fit?

It's pretty perfect, honestly.

It's a little tight.

It does look a little small, I'm not going to lie.

Yeah, I haven't washed it yet, so I'm worried to see how it does in the dryer.

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to drink up on you.

Yeah, it's like a 2X.

Yeah.

And you tried on the 14X?

I did.

Is it here?

No, it's in my house.

Okay.

It took up half the washing machine I washed.

It's a sheet.

You washed a king-sized sheet.

Yeah, I did.

I really did.

I'll bring it next time.

All right.

So, PFT, you have three.

I have three.

Yeah.

Hank, you have my number.

22.

Okay.

I'll take six.

Good pick.

I'll take 77.

10.

17.

So 17, 27.

23.

85.

What?

That's memes lashing out.

Did you see all the people that were tweeting saying that Tommy Fleetwood won involved tournament before memes got the lottery ball?

I did see that.

Wait, what was Memes lashing out with?

17.

Oh.

I didn't take that.

He didn't take 17.

Who did?

Thanks.

Yeah.

Zach did, I think.

Zach took 17.

Yeah, Zach took 17.

I just see three sitting at the top.

I need it.

Come.

Are you just not going to pick a number?

I don't know.

You're never going to get it.

I'm evaluating.

You're never going to get it, so it doesn't matter.

Great question.

That's what Florio said when he needed to think.

I got it.

I'm going to take number seven.

That's a cool reference.

Sick.

You are a Florio now.

Yeah, that's true.

What'd you take?

Seven.

Seven.

Come on, three.

Okay.

Is everyone else?

Did you see C7?

Yeah.

Everyone else gone?

Yep.

All right, say him again.

I'll start.

77.

I had three.

22.

17.

3.

10.

23.

85.

Memes has 7.

Oh, Shane, do you get it?

85!

Shane!

Let's go, Shane.

Shane, this isn't your first time, is it?

No, this is Shane's like 10th time.

This is my third time.

Let's go, Shane.

Wow.

That's awesome.

Congrats, Shane.

Shane, how do you do it?

I'm running out of Chargers.

Shane, post-game, post-game, real quick.

How do you do it?

You pick the three Chargers he knows.

Chargers Hall of Famers.

This is a post-game.

My bad.

My bad.

How do you do it, Shane?

Chargers.

That's incredible.

Hall of Famers.

I'm running out.

That's incredible.

Shane,

how cool was it when LT was your running back?

It was awesome.

Yeah.

He was really good on the Chargers.

The best.

Shane, how long have you been picking numbers?

Like two years?

Since we moved in here.

So

about two years.

And you've got it.

Three times?

Third time, yes.

And memes, how long have you been picking numbers?

I don't know.

You do know.

I don't know.

You definitely know.

I don't know.

I've been picking numbers the moment Hank got his number.

Okay.

And three.

So Shane has it three times.

One of the best days of my life.

Is that your number, memes?

Three?

Yeah.

But you've also picked other numbers you've never.

Well, Well, three's not in there.

Shane.

What's up?

Can you just give memes a tip?

I don't want to do this because I don't want to do this.

Why?

Because you're afraid.

Is someone we've got to look out for?

You'll get pretty mean to me.

Memes, I would like to give you a chance for a solo lottery ball, and this will count.

Three.

Okay.

Memes, memes.

Wait.

Memes, memes, memes.

Memes, memes, memes, memes.

This should be crazy.

Memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes,

memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes.

Oh,

not even close.

28.

28.

Oh, wait, three was up there.

Oh, no.

No, three was in the tube.

I swear to God.

Give him one more.

You want one more, memes?

Not really.

No, give him one more.

Come on, memes.

Last one.

Very fun.

Oh, 72,

memes.

Damn, dude.

You'll get it, memes.

Will he?

No, I'm just being nice.

One day.

You just gotta try your hardest.

Memes, any...

Memes, you realize, too, when you get it,

we're gonna get a new machine.

Have to.

Have to.

Because we got to restart the whole thing where someone's got to not have it.

But

that might be.

Like,

if I had to tell them, hey, we're going to need a new lottery ball machine, when are you expecting to get it?

Friday.

Okay.

This is like a Terry McLaurin situation.

Maybe, yeah, you've secretly gotten it already.

Oh, no.

What is this?

What are you pulling up?

This is the tracker?

Memes.

Oh, my goodness.

600s.

I didn't know that they had this

a day, tracker.

We should honestly put this on the.

Yeah.

Memes has never won 668-day drought.

Damn.

319 days until he.

I mean, you're climbing up.

988 was mine.

What is this picture of me?

Oh, man.

That's just what you look like, man.

That is what Shane says whenever we complain.

I was 13.

Jack has never won it, too.

Jack from the back.

Okay.

Memes.

Good luck on Wednesday.

You're not going to get it.

Maybe.

No, probably not.

You want to do one more?

Yay.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

You got memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

Memes.

We should let Zach guess one too.

Zach, you guessed one too.

26.

Okay, good guess.

74.

Not even close.

Well, 7 minus four is three.

That's a great point, man.

Math, Max.

Did you take off your shoes to do that math?

Love you guys.

it

a big thing to make