NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, Joe Burrow, Max Parties With The Eagles + Guys On Chicks And Fyre Fest

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Speaker 9 On today's part in my take,

Speaker 10 Life Without Football.

Speaker 4 We have all the boys back.

Speaker 13 Max is back in studio. We've got two great interviews for you.

Speaker 16 NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, we've never interviewed a commissioner, a sitting commissioner before.

Speaker 14 Very cool.

Speaker 17 And then we have our good friend Joe Burrow, who we interviewed at the end of Super Bowl week.

Speaker 10 We are going to talk a little Super Bowl Fallout, Max's night with the Eagles, Hot Sea, Cool Throne, Fire Fest, and then we're going on vacation and we'll have Dungeon and Dragons for you on Friday.

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Speaker 13 Today is Wednesday, February 12th,

Speaker 29 and we're out of football season.

Speaker 31 It was a sad realization waking up on Monday. I think we all felt a little bit empty.

Speaker 13 Monday night, I ate a bunch of Girl Scout cookies and I re-watched the Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 That's cool. Because it was on TV.

Speaker 13 And I was just like, I need something to watch.

Speaker 2 And I just turned it on.

Speaker 35 I was like, I guess I'll just watch this again.

Speaker 31 I like that a lot. I started to get back into shows again on Monday.

Speaker 31 I watched The Night Agent. And that's about, that's, it was very strange not having like sports bouncing around in the back of my head constantly thinking about what's going to happen in football.

Speaker 31 And then Tuesday comes around,

Speaker 31 and thank God, or excuse me, Monday night comes around, and thank God that the sports gods decided to bless us with Luca's debut.

Speaker 37 Yes.

Speaker 39 Luca, everyone's ready for Luca.

Speaker 12 Shout out LeBron for letting Luca be announced last.

Speaker 32 You see that story? LeBron had it.

Speaker 3 He texted Luca and said, hey, you know what?

Speaker 12 I'm going to let you get introduced last.

Speaker 43 And then Luca was like, thank you so much.

Speaker 16 But you'll go last after this.

Speaker 35 I'm just going to do tonight.

Speaker 15 And we now have everyone breaking down Luca's smiles.

Speaker 13 I was breaking down.

Speaker 14 There's a lot of tweets being like, look at Luca's smile.

Speaker 31 I saw that. I was also very confused by LeBron James.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 31 We all know that LeBron James in the past has said a lot of things, sometimes confusing.

Speaker 31 But one thing that he said that was very clear was back in 2015 when he told his teammates, kind of in a passive-aggressive way online, stop trying to find a way to fit out and just fit in. Yep.

Speaker 31 Apparently last night he told Luca, don't worry about fitting in. Just go out there and fit out.

Speaker 48 Oh, nice.

Speaker 49 Wait, why? So I don't get it. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Well, I mean, it's reversed. He's just got to fit out now.

Speaker 31 But that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 31 Is he saying that he's out of fit, like out of shape?

Speaker 23 He is out of shape. Look at all, yeah.

Speaker 40 It's just a lot of people being like, Luca looks so happy.

Speaker 3 He's never been happier.

Speaker 46 He's never smiled before.

Speaker 13 Luca's smiling on the bench after the first time out.

Speaker 3 That's probably because he's sitting.

Speaker 43 And it's

Speaker 51 like painful for him to stand because he's so out of shape.

Speaker 31 He did look kind of big and pale in that latrice yellow, didn't he?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm telling you.

Speaker 38 Lumbering up.

Speaker 52 Lack of aura.

Speaker 53 But yeah, Luca and LeBron.

Speaker 54 They're officially a goat. Look at that smile.

Speaker 55 It's so insane how many people

Speaker 51 talking about Luca's smile.

Speaker 31 He's been, yeah, he's been saved from the basketball Siberia. That is Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he never,

Speaker 57 listen, he finally will get to play in the playoffs this year.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Wait a second.

Speaker 60 Also, did you guys see in Dallas?

Speaker 46 They finally started, so I think it was their second home game since the trade.

Speaker 12 They started letting fans actually be on the Jumbotron again, and then a fan got kicked out.

Speaker 51 They were doing like a sing-along portion, and they went to this guy.

Speaker 61 He was fake holding a microphone, and he was singing, and then he just looked dead into the camera.

Speaker 47 He just said, Fuck Nico.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 53 He got kicked out.

Speaker 63 They kicked that guy out.

Speaker 31 Everybody in Dallas, like, if they show you on the Jumbotron there, you should say, fuck Nico.

Speaker 28 Oh, so funny. I like that a lot.
So petty.

Speaker 64 Yeah, Luca, the Luca show.

Speaker 65 I'll tell you what,

Speaker 31 I think it might be Austin Reeves' team.

Speaker 66 It's not Dalton Connects.

Speaker 67 If you want to talk about body language, he did not look happy.

Speaker 31 Well, he had zero points last night. It was disgusting.
No, they didn't even. JJ Reddick probably did the right thing and said, like, you don't have to worry about playing.

Speaker 37 Well,

Speaker 17 he said, she said.

Speaker 1 They're contesting the Mark Williams physicals.

Speaker 33 So there's still a chance that Dalton Connects.

Speaker 70 But they're also saying, oh, the Hornets wanted to trade for you.

Speaker 71 Like, we didn't want to trade you. Yeah.
Like, you know,

Speaker 35 they just wanted you so bad.

Speaker 31 So, Charlotte, they're the ones that are contesting the trade. They're like, no, he didn't feel the physicals.
Yeah. It's actually, he's in the best shape of his life.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Which is now.

Speaker 71 They also came out with a Mark Cuban report, which was like, he really, you know, tried to convince Nico not to do it, but by the time he found out, the deal was done.

Speaker 71 Which I imagine like a movie, like Mark Cuban fell to his knees in Walmart, actually.

Speaker 72 Yeah.

Speaker 71 Like wherever he was when he found that out. Mark Cuban.
I think he actually fell to his knees.

Speaker 12 Yeah. Mark Cuban was the woman when Trump in 2016.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 31 What they told him.

Speaker 31 They told him late, and Mark said that the biggest mistake of his entire career was trading Steve Nash. And he's like, I don't want to make a mistake like that again.
And they told him. Oh, he traded.

Speaker 74 He didn't agree.

Speaker 42 He signed Jalen Brunson, too.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 31 But he's made a couple mistakes.

Speaker 31 Yeah, they just gave him a heads up. Like, hey, Mark, just so you know, we're going to do this thing that you're going to hate, and you are powerless to stop it.

Speaker 13 But in defense of us, Mark,

Speaker 75 Luca is he doesn't

Speaker 41 want it enough, like a guy like Shaq.

Speaker 11 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 77 So

Speaker 51 that's what's going on here.

Speaker 31 Uh, did you guys see?

Speaker 76 Turns out the boycotters of the Super Bowl were not great because it hit a record 126 million views.

Speaker 14 Now, they've changed how they, yeah, football's back.

Speaker 31 Nice job. Football's back.

Speaker 1 They have changed how they determine it. I think they're just counting everything now.

Speaker 29 But still, for all the people who are like, I'm not watching this,

Speaker 13 you kind of got left out.

Speaker 38 What? What? What?

Speaker 10 What, Hank?

Speaker 63 Say it.

Speaker 66 It's a podcast.

Speaker 71 Ratings have never really made sense, so this isn't a current thing because the Nielsen box, every time I heard how that system works, it didn't really add up to it. It didn't make sense.

Speaker 71 If they're just adding streaming numbers, like they could just make up numbers. Correct.
Which is what I guess, you know, all platforms and stuff do.

Speaker 31 But that means nothing to me. Now, in other news, our boycott worked phenomenally.

Speaker 31 The Pro Bowl had its lowest ratings ever, I believe.

Speaker 82 So we boycotted the right thing.

Speaker 31 So we boycotted the right thing.

Speaker 43 People followed us.

Speaker 31 Made a difference, difference, but then that means that we were just so starved for football that everyone just tuned back into the Super Bowl.

Speaker 38 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 18 Max.

Speaker 62 Max is back.

Speaker 32 Max, our conquering hero.

Speaker 56 Max Delante, world champion.

Speaker 47 Max,

Speaker 84 how are you feeling?

Speaker 5 I feel

Speaker 85 I'm here.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 49 Very hungover.

Speaker 56 How was the flight back?

Speaker 42 Were you surrounded by Chiefs fans?

Speaker 87 Yeah, though, I was surrounded by Chiefs fans. Surprisingly, there was a decent amount of Eagles fans on that flight to Kansas City, which was

Speaker 35 they're probably just going to pillage this.

Speaker 87 Yeah, I don't know what there was one guy that I was like sitting in like the seventh row, the first one past first class, and there was this one guy who

Speaker 13 no big deal.

Speaker 76 Yeah, that's comfort plus for all the people listening to the family.

Speaker 52 Yeah, comfort plus.

Speaker 87 There was a guy who literally just stopped dead in his tracks, and he just looked at me and was like, What the fuck are you doing on this night?

Speaker 69 The last guy you want to see.

Speaker 31 Shout out that guy. It's like Max and Russell Wilson.
The two last guys you want to be sat next to.

Speaker 87 Well, he didn't sit next to me. He was just walking down the aisle and saw me.
And he was like, he was just so disappointed that my face was what he saw after losing the Super Bowl like that.

Speaker 31 So he probably like, that's his worst nightmare. Like he went to bed just having nightmares about Philly fans like Max bouncing around in his head.
He's like, he's everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 31 That motherfucker's not real.

Speaker 56 So

Speaker 55 tell us about Sunday night

Speaker 2 after we left you, after you did a bunch of shoeys,

Speaker 80 you went out, you partied, you're with the team?

Speaker 87 I was with the team.

Speaker 52 That's incredible.

Speaker 87 Big Dom absolutely hooked it up. We got into the section with the players and their friends and family and stuff.
So that was cool.

Speaker 31 We were a little bit late getting to the party.

Speaker 87 So some people were leaving as we were coming in. But there was still, I mean, There were still some big names in that little section.

Speaker 31 Give me some names. What names were there? Yeah, any section.

Speaker 16 And also give us names of people who maybe came up to you instead of you going up to them.

Speaker 87 That's only one person.

Speaker 73 And I would like you to guess.

Speaker 87 I think you'll get it within two tries.

Speaker 42 A.J.

Speaker 38 Brown.

Speaker 69 Reed Blankens. Yeah.

Speaker 63 Reed Blankenship.

Speaker 87 Reed Blankenship came up to me and was like, wait a minute, you're the guy from Barstore, right?

Speaker 52 Hell yes.

Speaker 18 Shout out Reed.

Speaker 87 So shout out Reed. That's my guy.

Speaker 42 But, I mean, all jokes aside, that was so, that was like a surreal moment.

Speaker 87 I mean, he's been an integral part of this team all year. He was great.

Speaker 41 And then being at the Super Bowl after party, and then him coming up to me, and I was like, why?

Speaker 87 This should, this should be the other way around.

Speaker 13 No, that, that never gets old.

Speaker 3 That never stops to, like, that never ceases to blow my mind.

Speaker 13 When we were, when we interviewed Lane Johnson, Cam Jugens was like, oh, what's up, big cat?

Speaker 76 As we were walking in the hallway, I was like, oh, shit, that's fucking cool.

Speaker 80 You're about to go play in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 28 So who else did you talk?

Speaker 6 Did you see Nick Siriani?

Speaker 87 I saw Nick Siriani was getting after it.

Speaker 38 Yeah, like absolutely.

Speaker 73 He was just walking around

Speaker 87 with a cigar in his mouth the whole time, ripping.

Speaker 87 Like, there was a server that would come around. He was ripping tequila shots.

Speaker 87 As he should, he was having the time. He went up on stage and he did that whole thing.

Speaker 25 What's that whole thing?

Speaker 87 He's saying

Speaker 71 that talking on the list.

Speaker 38 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we know that whole thing.

Speaker 15 You're now explicit coaching.

Speaker 84 We didn't go to this party with you.

Speaker 14 You know that.

Speaker 97 Well, it went like

Speaker 83 was online he's

Speaker 31 it's a famous thing that nicks

Speaker 81 after he wins the super bowl it's kind of his that whole thing he sang my way no he sang this i i can't play this song

Speaker 87 that's what this tweet says no but he sang a song that was like talking it was basically everybody's talking all this stuff about me that's what that would be

Speaker 64 okay

Speaker 13 That's good.

Speaker 94 I don't like that.

Speaker 49 Hank didn't like the song at all.

Speaker 31 Hank, what song would you sing on stage? What would be the Hank thing that he's known for?

Speaker 71 I'd play Don't Stop, Rick Ross. That's what they played at the first Super Bowl party I went to.
It was electric.

Speaker 28 Okay, that's good.

Speaker 94 Sexy Red was the performer. Oh, nice.

Speaker 38 All right.

Speaker 6 And then who else did you talk to?

Speaker 54 Did you take pictures with anyone?

Speaker 87 I took no pictures with anyone.

Speaker 69 Why?

Speaker 52 That was what I was doing. That's good for me.
I woke up. That's

Speaker 71 the first reason to see, ready to see the chaos.

Speaker 24 It's good because you're in the content game, and it's better if we just don't have any pictures.

Speaker 87 Yeah, I took no pictures.

Speaker 68 Well, I don't know. I felt

Speaker 87 everyone was a million people are going up to them asking for pictures.

Speaker 87 They're trying to enjoy their Super Bowl night, and I just wanted to, like,

Speaker 87 I just wanted to enjoy everything that was going on without being annoying.

Speaker 95 Okay.

Speaker 14 But then you were a million in one pictures.

Speaker 71 As someone who's been there before, you're going to want to look back and regret.

Speaker 41 You're going to, at least you'll have those, you can just look back on the memories.

Speaker 35 Yeah, which you definitely don't.

Speaker 85 I mean,

Speaker 67 you're not really doing a good job with your family.

Speaker 87 Yeah, no,

Speaker 87 I was living in the moment.

Speaker 56 Okay. It was great.
All right, so did you talk to anyone else?

Speaker 36 Did you

Speaker 36 guys know that?

Speaker 87 I walked in. The first person I saw, the first people I saw were Chris O'Connor and Shane Gillis.

Speaker 89 Okay, lovely. So

Speaker 73 they were fired up.

Speaker 13 Funny, Chris O'Connor side note, he was texting me throughout the Super Bowl demanding that I ask John Gruden why the Eagles wouldn't do a play action play and throw it over the top.

Speaker 97 He literally would be like, can you ask Gruden?

Speaker 28 I think my first reply is, ha ha, I will.

Speaker 13 And he's like, no, I'm dead serious.

Speaker 51 Ask him right now.

Speaker 80 And he just kept on texting me like, it's open. It's open.

Speaker 1 And then they hit the Devontae Smith touchdown.

Speaker 80 He's like, see, it's open.

Speaker 82 He was just obsessed with it. Chris Okinawa.

Speaker 88 He was the main character of that party.

Speaker 97 He rocks.

Speaker 87 He was like forming a dance circle, and only

Speaker 87 himself was in the middle dancing in the show.

Speaker 34 He was awesome.

Speaker 31 What was Pug doing at this party?

Speaker 62 Pug was, I mean,

Speaker 87 Pug got a picture of Sirianni.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 31 Can we see that picture? Oh, Pug? I haven't seen that picture.

Speaker 53 Tell us. We'll pull up that picture.

Speaker 31 Where can I find this picture?

Speaker 72 So Pug took one, Rowan took one.

Speaker 71 You were just like, nah.

Speaker 38 Nah.

Speaker 26 I want these guys to be friends with me for life.

Speaker 25 I bet you Nick Siriani's like, who is that fucking dude in the boot that didn't ask for a picture?

Speaker 63 I need that guy.

Speaker 31 I do like how in Max's mind, he's like, you know, me and Sirian, we're too close for that. That would be weird if I went up to him and asked him for a picture.

Speaker 31 It's like, I can do that whenever I want.

Speaker 89 Yeah, no, looking back, I probably should have asked for a picture.

Speaker 63 I get it, though. Like, you don't want to.

Speaker 31 You don't want to be annoying. They got cameras everywhere, but I'm telling you, like that, at that point, they do not give a fuck.

Speaker 69 And in 10 years, you're going to be like, yeah, I kind of wish I had a picture of that.

Speaker 87 Yeah. Jalen Hurts was also there.

Speaker 97 You know what?

Speaker 3 The beauty is, wait, I want to hear about Jalen Hurts, but the beauty is, memes, I would like you for the next day find every picture that Nick Siriani took with someone and just put, do the Max face.

Speaker 35 So that way we have a bunch of pictures of Max with Siriani.

Speaker 46 Every single one.

Speaker 2 All right, so Jalen Hurts is there.

Speaker 67 Did you talk to him? No.

Speaker 2 So Jalen Hurts was there, but

Speaker 87 he was in a different section within the section.

Speaker 71 That also is... That sounds about right.
Yeah.

Speaker 73 But

Speaker 87 he was kind of like one in his own in that section.

Speaker 104 Other people would come into his section. Yeah, Super Bowl.

Speaker 87 But everyone else was in the mix of everything. And he basically had security going in and out of that section.
And as soon as he moved everywhere, everyone just

Speaker 87 had a phone just

Speaker 88 filming him walking around.

Speaker 95 And you were in the player section, though, right?

Speaker 12 So then there was like a party section that was different.

Speaker 87 Right. There was like this pug.

Speaker 38 Pug. What?

Speaker 69 What an arrival?

Speaker 50 No, nothing. No pictures.

Speaker 80 No, nothing.

Speaker 92 I was going to.

Speaker 63 I thought you didn't make it in.

Speaker 72 Me too.

Speaker 71 I saw Chris's Instagram post with you in it.

Speaker 97 I was like, oh, he made it in.

Speaker 84 I was worried when I woke up with Chris.

Speaker 98 I took a picture with Chris.

Speaker 98 Oh, no, he's sick.

Speaker 59 No, no, no.

Speaker 71 Chris probably asked you to take a picture.

Speaker 59 No, I, well,

Speaker 87 we were, me, Chris, and Big Cat were in a group chat being like, we got to meet up. We got to meet up.
So then once we did meet up, I sent Big Cat a picture of us.

Speaker 56 Wait, so, yeah, I woke up the next morning.

Speaker 38 I was like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 54 They didn't get in. This is bad.

Speaker 13 I would sleep. I didn't help.

Speaker 40 And then it turns out you got all the way in.

Speaker 87 Yeah, no, we were in until it closed.

Speaker 13 So what time did it close?

Speaker 64 I think four.

Speaker 89 Is that right, Pug? Pug's here. Pug.

Speaker 39 Pug.

Speaker 69 Pug.

Speaker 105 I believe three, potentially 4 a.m.

Speaker 85 Pug,

Speaker 12 how was it? Tell us about it.

Speaker 70 It was awesome.

Speaker 105 It was just seeing all your favorite players right after the Super Bowl celebrating.

Speaker 15 It's just like so surreal.

Speaker 25 How was asking Nick Siriani for a picture?

Speaker 105 It was like a very quick. He was like in the middle of doing pictures with other people, and it was just a quick, like, get in, get out.

Speaker 101 Love it.

Speaker 51 So he didn't even, you didn't bother him.

Speaker 106 Yeah, no.

Speaker 93 It took two seconds of his time.

Speaker 31 Here's the thing, Max.

Speaker 31 We didn't need a picture of Siriani, Max, because you gave a recap in words that describe it better than a picture ever could, because it looks like right after you left the party at 3.08 a.m., you tweeted, Sirianni was so sick tonight.

Speaker 98 I was drunk tweeting all night.

Speaker 38 Wait, so what did you say?

Speaker 31 That tells me all I need to know.

Speaker 31 Let's print that out, and then you can look back on that in five years.

Speaker 72 Yeah, put that behind you.

Speaker 49 Remember how Zach you were?

Speaker 63 We need that frame behind you.

Speaker 82 The night you partied with the Eagles after winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 42 Sirianni was so sick tonight.

Speaker 84 Wait, so did you guys... What did you guys?

Speaker 26 Can we see the picture of Sirianni and Pug?

Speaker 25 By the way, every time I see a picture of Pug, I just

Speaker 45 audibly am like, he's just the cutest.

Speaker 63 I don't know why.

Speaker 23 I'm just like, he's just the cutest guy we got.

Speaker 31 You remember that chill guy meme that went viral like, I don't know, two months ago? Yeah. Pug is the chill guy.

Speaker 83 He's just a chill guy.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 71 I also, like, I'm so pro going to a Super Bowl by yourself.

Speaker 71 Like, that, like, dude, friendship and bond, because, like, I have a buddy who went to one of the Patriots games with, like, another guy we work with. That was a random connection.

Speaker 71 And, like, they still will be like, that's my best friend for like.

Speaker 6 I was explaining it because people were kind of roasting me and PFT being like, why would you buy one single ticket?

Speaker 33 I was like, dude, it's a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 They're going to, Connor made best friends with his seatmate, too.

Speaker 71 Yeah. And again, it's like I've, the Eagles winning this Super Bowl and the way they did it has made me get to relive the Patriots Super Bowls.

Speaker 71 Like, that's all I did yesterday was just rewatch the Seahawks, rewatch the Falcons.

Speaker 31 That's awesome.

Speaker 49 And

Speaker 49 make it by yourself.

Speaker 48 I love that, Hank.

Speaker 71 I don't care. It's true.
Like, you guys were talking about no football. Like, I spent probably two hours watching just like Patriots Seahawks, Patriots Falcons, Patriots Rams.

Speaker 71 And those memories that you have, like this night,

Speaker 71 it's the best. Wow.
The farther away it gets, the better it gets. That's what I've learned in my wisdom of like

Speaker 71 this night will get better with time.

Speaker 77 Well, not for Max.

Speaker 80 He has literally no memories.

Speaker 9 This picture is awesome.

Speaker 71 This picture is all time.

Speaker 80 You look sick, Pug.

Speaker 71 Unreal. With the cigar, like that.
But the farther away you get, you're going to be like, that was so sick. And it just gets sicker and sicker and sicker.

Speaker 31 The funniest part about watching Hank react to Max talking about the night is Hank just thinking back, he's like, Yep, that's how the Super Bowl parties are set up.

Speaker 31 They got that other special section right there, then you got prayers. Yeah, I know all about that.

Speaker 32 Did they have a bathroom for you that was different than everyone else's?

Speaker 38 Nice, sick, same.

Speaker 71 It's best until the until the somehow the Celtics, like Missoula, shout out to Coach Missoula. But the first Super Bowl party I went to was the best night of my life, like until the parade.

Speaker 31 Max, have you been invited to the parade?

Speaker 85 Um,

Speaker 73 I No.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 46 Do you want to get invited to the parade?

Speaker 38 Let's get Pug on the parade.

Speaker 85 I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 65 It's Valentine's Day.

Speaker 73 That's a big issue.

Speaker 65 That's the issue.

Speaker 31 I was thinking about that.

Speaker 31 There are going to be so many dudes in Philly that are like, I'm going to go out to the parade just for a little bit, and then I'll come home and we'll go out on our date and have our night, and they're just not going to come home.

Speaker 87 Yeah, a lot of pukes after being gone for eight days and being like,

Speaker 87 I had the most unreal night ever, but I need to have another one It is going to be a tough one.

Speaker 31 That's going to be tough, so.

Speaker 56 Wait, so I didn't even ask.

Speaker 13 What did you guys do when the party ended? Did you go to a bar?

Speaker 29 Or did you go home?

Speaker 31 We went home.

Speaker 104 Pug wanted to go to Bourbon Street at like 3:30.

Speaker 34 Fuck yes.

Speaker 14 What an animal.

Speaker 105 Once the game ended, there's just like swarms of Eagles fans.

Speaker 77 Like, we're all going to Bourbon.

Speaker 2 So, like, I still was feeling that energy a little bit, but going home was the right move.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 35 And then, Pug, how was your flight through Kansas City?

Speaker 16 Did people, were people like, God damn it?

Speaker 105 My flight was through Atlanta.

Speaker 11 Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 34 All right.

Speaker 75 So you didn't do the Kansas City connection.

Speaker 31 There were some issues, weren't there, Pug? Yeah,

Speaker 105 we got delayed, then delayed again, then deboarded, then delayed, and then we were back.

Speaker 82 So what time did you get home?

Speaker 16 Like 2 a.m.

Speaker 38 Oh, my God.

Speaker 71 We're back. How many times do you look at this picture during the flight?

Speaker 13 Like two to three.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Pug.

Speaker 11 Pug.

Speaker 63 All right, so, and Max, how

Speaker 50 scale one to ten, how unhealthy do you feel?

Speaker 1 Nine days in bourbon ships.

Speaker 46 15.

Speaker 87 Like yesterday,

Speaker 87 yesterday was like I was sitting at the airport and I was about to go get food and then I was like, I just, I shouldn't eat anything right now. I ended up getting lunchables.

Speaker 36 Oh, no. That was my lunch.

Speaker 73 Nice.

Speaker 53 And that was my lunch.

Speaker 7 What?

Speaker 87 Do you not remember that debate?

Speaker 106 Melt Rushmore. Melt Rushmore.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 88 So I had that, and then I had, you know, a salad for dinner.

Speaker 31 Yeah, salad.

Speaker 73 I got a salad for dinner.

Speaker 31 You have to eat something green. I'm going to

Speaker 87 diet heavy, heavy diet started yesterday.

Speaker 71 You've got to book a trip to like a sauna or something. Like you need to sweat excellently for like 50 minutes

Speaker 71 just to get it out. Kind of started.

Speaker 34 The toxins out.

Speaker 66 But you're going on an exercise vacation.

Speaker 69 Exercise vacation.

Speaker 52 Fitness vacation starts next week.

Speaker 71 You're going to ski like twice.

Speaker 50 He's going to drink so much more than he skis.

Speaker 87 I'm also going to a John Summit concert again.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 56 All right. So any other Super Bowl thoughts?

Speaker 66 I mean, I had a thought

Speaker 2 while driving in this morning.

Speaker 50 Is Patrick Mahomes a Kyle Shanahan merchant?

Speaker 48 Yes.

Speaker 48 Yes.

Speaker 13 Two out of three of his Super Bowls against Kyle Shanahan, who can't win the big one?

Speaker 38 Yep.

Speaker 9 Interesting.

Speaker 9 Is he a Kyle Shanahan merchant?

Speaker 31 Interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 31 he's had two very bad losses in Super Bowl.

Speaker 83 Very bad.

Speaker 66 So I saw a chart.

Speaker 1 Someone's like, hey, if you think that

Speaker 2 this first half was like the Tampa Super Bowl, it actually was so, so, so much worse.

Speaker 15 Patrick Mahomes, that was the worst half of football he has ever played.

Speaker 53 And then maybe the worst half.

Speaker 71 I saw a status like maybe any quarterback of all time.

Speaker 94 Yeah.

Speaker 71 10 worst performance ever.

Speaker 82 There was a chart I saw that was

Speaker 23 like worst play stretches in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 79 And Mahomes had like the worst four or maybe eight play stretch in a Super Bowl all time.

Speaker 51 He also had one of the

Speaker 23 best four-play stretch, which was all in garbage time.

Speaker 37 Oh, at the end?

Speaker 84 Yeah, the throw to Xavier Worthy definitely, which I agree with everyone.

Speaker 66 Like, you can't count stats after the Gatorade bath.

Speaker 69 Yep.

Speaker 84 That was after the Gatorade bath that he made that throw.

Speaker 18 It was an incredible.

Speaker 10 It was also all the backups. Yeah.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 89 They'd taken away the whole starting lineup.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 46 So strike from the record.

Speaker 31 Also, I mean, Mahomes has had to get through the AFC, too.

Speaker 57 Yeah. True.

Speaker 34 It's pretty impressive. True.

Speaker 84 But this is,

Speaker 33 it's a bad one.

Speaker 33 It's a bad one.

Speaker 71 Jalen Hurts, I actually, like, Max and Rowan were on something with the Jalen Hurts thing. What? He might be.
I think he's just better than Mahomes.

Speaker 31 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 69 Their head-to-head matchups is Jalen Hurts has dominated him.

Speaker 87 That's true. If you'd only watch the two Super Bowls that Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes played against each other, Jalen Hurts clears them by a million.

Speaker 38 Correct.

Speaker 51 And if you had just put the last Super Bowl on regular turf, then Mahomes would be even more of a Kyle Shanahan merchant. Yeah.

Speaker 31 I mean, we'd be having to talk about the Eagles being a dynasty right now.

Speaker 76 You guys do have like a pretty...

Speaker 15 Do you have a lot of free agents?

Speaker 38 Yeah, we're going to lose a lot of guys.

Speaker 46 Oh, you are? Zach Bond?

Speaker 87 Zach Bond, Josh Swatt, Melton Williams.

Speaker 71 What did you guys think about the

Speaker 71 all-22 review? Like, that came out, I saw it with all the sacks and all their Travis Kelsey, and they just got dropped.

Speaker 76 Kelsey was not looking great on the film review.

Speaker 31 My all-22 analysis is that Lane Johnson is a fucking man.

Speaker 52 Yes.

Speaker 14 Every single time you see Lane Johnson, he's just bodying.

Speaker 31 That is a man that you don't want him to put his hands on you.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 40 There was one that I saw that he throat punched a guy.

Speaker 37 Yeah, he was bodying.

Speaker 31 He was bodying Chris Jones. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was an animal.

Speaker 14 He just put him out on an island, too.

Speaker 110 He never had help.

Speaker 58 The Eagles were just that much better than the Chiefs.

Speaker 31 Did you see Kenny Pickett?

Speaker 96 No.

Speaker 69 At the party? Yeah,

Speaker 87 I did not see him at the party.

Speaker 34 That would have been cool. Yeah.

Speaker 71 What type of jumpsuit was Big Dom wearing?

Speaker 87 Big Dom basically got us into the party and then immediately left.

Speaker 31 He had a lot of stuff.

Speaker 73 Yeah, he was like, yeah, he texted me the next time.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 31 The The Super Bowl after party is Big Dom's Super Bowl. Like, he's got to be on point with that.

Speaker 87 Yeah, as he was walking us in, C.J. Gardner Johnson was walking out, and he was like, he was like, Dom, I'm going to need a ride for me and all these people, like, immediately.

Speaker 73 And then he was like, all right, all right, I'll get to you in a second.

Speaker 28 Also, I want to...

Speaker 71 Because you see, the Swifties are kind of at war.

Speaker 5 Oh, I do want to see it.

Speaker 45 I want to hear about that, but I just want to defend Big Dom for a second because I've seen this narrative being thrown around that he's like hunting for the camera.

Speaker 13 It's his literal job to be next to Nick Siriani after a game.

Speaker 2 Like if you are upset that Nick Siriani is getting a picture taken and Big Dom happens to be behind him, he's not looking for the camera.

Speaker 14 He's doing his job.

Speaker 2 That is his job.

Speaker 35 Shout out Big Dom.

Speaker 52 Go ahead.

Speaker 22 Swifties.

Speaker 71 Which CJ Garner Johnson was the person. He posted on a story, a picture of him and Kelsey.
And his quote was, should have stayed with that thick shit.

Speaker 53 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 71 So Swifties are fired up.

Speaker 31 They are. Well, there was that picture of Taylor that went viral like two weeks ago.

Speaker 71 I think they're also mad about her getting booed.

Speaker 46 And I think Travis Kelsey's ex-girlfriend might have been there.

Speaker 31 I think she was. But yeah, there was that picture, and it confirmed the fact that Taylor Swift does, in fact, have a leg.
And all the Swifties are like, oh, look how thick she is.

Speaker 31 Look how strong that leg is. And it was just like a leg.

Speaker 31 It was a leg. So now CJ is saying, oh, he should have stayed with the thick girl.
And then now all the Swifties have responded by leaving bad reviews for C.J. Gardner Johnson's mom's restaurant.

Speaker 65 Is that what it is?

Speaker 45 That's nasty.

Speaker 57 Nasty words.

Speaker 5 They've got a sore loser.

Speaker 72 Well, they've never lost.

Speaker 38 They've literally never lost.

Speaker 31 They weaponized social media.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 38 They do.

Speaker 14 But that was their first big loss.

Speaker 54 Yeah.

Speaker 31 And it was huge. How do you respond from adversity?

Speaker 51 I don't know.

Speaker 31 We'll see. She's going to put out a banger album about this Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 I think he's going to retire.

Speaker 29 You do?

Speaker 38 He looked old.

Speaker 31 He did. He did look old.

Speaker 71 He is old. He wasn't getting off the line.
Yeah.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 39 I mean, the Chiefs just overall just looked bad.

Speaker 14 There was nothing.

Speaker 106 Andy Reid might retire.

Speaker 16 Chiefs' run defense was pretty much all you can say was good.

Speaker 31 Is this Eagles team the best football team of all time?

Speaker 106 Oh.

Speaker 31 Because, well, hear me out. You've got Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 31 I'd say maybe a top 10 running back of all time. Right? The way that he's playing right now.
Not in terms of longevity this season incredible.

Speaker 61 By the way, just a side note, shout out that one guy who posted a video of him pinning Saquon Barkley in like sixth grade wrestling.

Speaker 31 Never let go of that.

Speaker 10 That was so good.

Speaker 53 Like Saquon won a Super Bowl birthday.

Speaker 57 He's like, hey, check out this time.

Speaker 31 Saquon Barkley, he was in the MVP consideration. He had a great season.
Yep. Top 10 season of a running back of all time.

Speaker 31 The offensive line for the Eagles, maybe top 10 offensive line of all time. Defensive line, you could make the same argument.
And the pass rush, make the same argument.

Speaker 31 Impact rookies all over the place. Great secondary.
Shut down Patrick Mahomes. Quarterback, better than Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 31 Beat Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. And we're talking about Patrick potentially being the second or going into this game, the best quarterback of all time.

Speaker 31 Well, a guy that just beat him, you would say that he's probably the second or the best quarterback of all time. Is this the best football team ever?

Speaker 101 Max?

Speaker 94 I already made this argument on Sunday's show.

Speaker 31 Did you say they're the best team ever?

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 48 He did. He said, that was 16 and won.

Speaker 87 I just started saying that we basically were undefeated.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 13 He found a way to get out of every single one of their losses.

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 28 So

Speaker 31 Eagles number one, Patriots number two.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. That doesn't matter because it's all...
You can make the argument for anything, but all that matters is they're both Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 31 And the Chiefs are not.

Speaker 71 And the Chiefs are not.

Speaker 110 And Patrick Morals is probably going to use his revenge and get way better and win another one.

Speaker 75 Right in everyone's face.

Speaker 23 Oh, you think he's totally done?

Speaker 34 Hank is done.

Speaker 31 Hank is not unironically doing the washed trash.

Speaker 83 Yes.

Speaker 66 You actually think Patrick Mahomes is done.

Speaker 84 Like, we went along with the joke.

Speaker 38 It was a long, long

Speaker 71 huge mountain to climb. If he can win five more Super Bowls to beat Tom Brady, good for him.

Speaker 31 No, you've become Max Kellerman.

Speaker 84 Wait, but we were, when you did the wash thing on Sunday night, we were going along with the joke.

Speaker 82 Like,

Speaker 14 he is going to win another Super Bowl.

Speaker 69 Maybe.

Speaker 38 Okay. All right.

Speaker 31 So he thinks, no.

Speaker 31 You have become Max Kellerman. Either you die a villain or you live long or no, die a hero or live long enough to become a Kellerman.

Speaker 58 How many Super Bowls is he going to go to for the rest of his career?

Speaker 71 NFL is hard. It's hard to stay healthy.
It's hard to get back.

Speaker 71 We've talked to all these

Speaker 71 quarterbacks and pros where it's like, you know, it's a constant narrative on the show. You never know.
Probably one or two.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 23 So

Speaker 23 would you bet that he'll be back to at least two

Speaker 71 i would look at the other line okay it depends how juicy the plus sign was who wins a super bowl probably take the i'd probably take no okay who wins a super bowl he's always been to five out of the last seven

Speaker 71 yeah but it's again it's he's he's just a check down merchant now okay

Speaker 31 who wins a super bowl first i'm on patrick mahomes or drake may

Speaker 71 drake may okay we come here okay

Speaker 35 okay yeah well we know you're on hank's side but you don't you you killed him

Speaker 73 Tom Brady will never have tape like that first half tape, no matter what.

Speaker 87 That will be on his legacy forever.

Speaker 65 Do you body?

Speaker 87 That he had a chance to do something legendary and came out with the worst performance in the history of football.

Speaker 71 He played worse than Sam Darnold did.

Speaker 60 Yeah, he was very bad.

Speaker 67 Do you think, Max, is there anything to be said that Carson Wentz is your good luck charm?

Speaker 35 Because the Eagles have two Super Bowls when Carson Wentz is on the sidelines.

Speaker 45 Great point.

Speaker 16 We just need, you need to find him an AFC team next year that will be in the Super Bowl and just have him out there.

Speaker 80 You're undefeated in Super Bowls when Carson Wentz is

Speaker 58 a backup somewhere.

Speaker 65 That's an excellent point.

Speaker 24 He also kind of didn't.

Speaker 1 I reviewed the tape, kind of shaded Jalen Hurts after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 50 I couldn't fully understand if it was he never saw him, but Jalen Hurts was kind of looking to give him a high five and Carson Wentz was walking the opposite direction.

Speaker 31 Interesting.

Speaker 80 So we'll just go with that.

Speaker 87 Do you think Carson Wentz still thinks that he's like, if that were me, I would.

Speaker 38 Oh, for sure.

Speaker 31 I would say Good Look Charm is more Nick Foles. Nick Foles even posted, it's really cool that Tom Brady got to be there, or I guess it's Tom Brady that's the good luck charm.

Speaker 31 But Nick Foles pointed out Tom Brady got to be there for the Eagles' two Super Bowl wins. He might be the Good Look Charm.
Well,

Speaker 2 it's yeah, Tom Brady, yeah, and also Tom Brady was there for both the Patrick Mahomes' Super Bowl losses.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 106 I'm so happy for Tom.

Speaker 104 What do you review the tape?

Speaker 42 All right, so here's Jalen Hurts and Mahomes. The Jalen Hurts goes towards Carson Wentz, and Carson Wentz is like, nah.

Speaker 94 Nah.

Speaker 86 I don't know. I just like the thing that I've seen.

Speaker 59 I like the narrator.

Speaker 38 I just like the narrative. I don't think there's any people in between them.
No, I don't.

Speaker 71 Like, you know that you're going to go see the other starter. I don't know if it's customary or not to ghost his backup right away.

Speaker 18 I just like the narrative.

Speaker 31 No, if it's Carson Wentz, you have to check in in town.

Speaker 49 Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 31 Just so you know, I'm in your city.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 45 Hey, Jalen, that should have been me.

Speaker 80 Yeah. That would be awesome if he went out to and said that.

Speaker 35 Just so you know, it should have been me.

Speaker 31 It's probably way better to not even make the Super Bowl than it is to make the Super Bowl and get blown out like the Chiefs, right? Yes. Yeah.
So good job, all of us.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 51 It was playing all along.

Speaker 71 That's what Brady was saying. He's like, no one talks to me about when I've lost in the AFC Championship.
I only get talked about about the losses in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 38 Super Bowl. And big balls.
Losses.

Speaker 102 Massive.

Speaker 35 And shout out Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 82 Incredible story.

Speaker 57 Imagine getting

Speaker 71 Super Bowls in a negative point differential. That's embarrassing.

Speaker 51 This is more Hank's Super Bowl than Max.

Speaker 71 I literally

Speaker 106 felt like I won the Super Bowl yesterday.

Speaker 52 What are you going to say about it?

Speaker 71 I hadn't really thought about how bad it would have been, but after the way they'd lost, it really put in perspective how good it is to win. And I'm happy for Pug.
I'm happy for Max.

Speaker 52 Hank and I have never been more in lockstep than we are right now.

Speaker 65 Absolute boys.

Speaker 31 What was your worst loss in the Super Bowl, Hank?

Speaker 71 It probably would have been that one.

Speaker 37 But the Eagles was. Wait, you're talking about this year?

Speaker 38 Yeah, that would have been.

Speaker 53 This year would have been you.

Speaker 57 Wait, what were you going to say, Max?

Speaker 39 I don't know.

Speaker 87 This is a way more fun conversation than what I was going to say.

Speaker 71 It would have been, you guys, it would have been an impossible argument to make, and it would have just been a huge one.

Speaker 73 She said, actually, I'll ask a question.

Speaker 38 Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 87 realistically where do you rank jalen hurts as quarterbacks in the nfl right now

Speaker 71 right now one

Speaker 66 right now i think i and i'm ranking it if a team called would they do like salaries out take salaries out would the team do a one-for-one trade i'd probably rank him

Speaker 31 what if you're drafting what if it's the the league starts tomorrow you have the number one pick it's tricky with jalen hurts because i think that there's a bunch of quarterbacks that would not do a bunch of teams that would not do a one-for-one trade with their quarterback, but Jalen Hurts is better than them in terms of how he fits in with the Eagles.

Speaker 18 I'd probably rank him fifth.

Speaker 31 So, like, do you think Justin Herbert, do you think the Chargers would trade? I don't think they would, but

Speaker 38 that's bullshit. I have

Speaker 31 Max, I don't think they would, but I'm saying Jalen Hurts is a better quarterback.

Speaker 87 Jalen Hurts, it's not even close.

Speaker 87 Justin Herbert is just a regular season merchant.

Speaker 97 And then as soon as the playoff, it's exactly what you don't want in a quarterback.

Speaker 87 Someone who looks really good in shorts and does bullshit during the regular season and then as soon as the playoff comes shits his pants

Speaker 31 is complete i i agree i'm saying jalen hurts is better but i i don't think the chargers would make that trade

Speaker 38 i don't know if you if

Speaker 71 you're fucking winners fret you get a fresh draft you're number one on the clock every nfl player is available i would probably i no if you just are quarterbacking you're drafting yeah you're drafting hurts over herbert i think you want to do a draft right now i would i would probably make him fourth or fifth is that sound that's fair that's fair

Speaker 73 I would say top three, but

Speaker 85 I'm willing to go to top three.

Speaker 14 It's a combination of Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, maybe Lamar, because obviously the playoffs, he hasn't been good, and then Jalen Hurts. Like, he's somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 I think Mahomes and Allen are first, first two.

Speaker 64 You would agree.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 26 Like, like Josh Allen and Burton.

Speaker 38 Hurts is above Lamar.

Speaker 106 Hurts is above Lamar.

Speaker 87 You can't.

Speaker 104 There's no.

Speaker 87 Hurts and Lamar have been in the same situation with both loaded rosters.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 38 But Lamar cannot win.

Speaker 10 So four? Yeah.

Speaker 38 Yes.

Speaker 85 I'm all right. I'm all right with that.

Speaker 84 Four is okay for you.

Speaker 89 Four I'm okay with. Okay.

Speaker 31 I have him six.

Speaker 34 Who's your favorite?

Speaker 31 I don't know.

Speaker 106 I don't know. You don't know.
It's a mystery.

Speaker 49 It's a mystery.

Speaker 31 I'm going to do a mystery top five, and then I've got, yeah, I got hurt six.

Speaker 31 Lindsay Copland, six is high.

Speaker 23 There was a nice stray there.

Speaker 75 Hank just saying, Alan is number one.

Speaker 31 Mahomes should retire.

Speaker 49 Yes, stop him.

Speaker 66 DeAndre Hopkins retired. He's dead.

Speaker 77 He's a tough way for DeAndre Hopkins to go out being like complaining about the refs and then be like, I'm retired.

Speaker 31 Wait, was that not a fake Schefter account?

Speaker 10 Oh, it was?

Speaker 46 Oh, I gotta go.

Speaker 31 I think you got Adam Scheffler.

Speaker 53 Oh, okay.

Speaker 45 I just saw DeAndre Hopkins retired, so yeah, I guess I got Adam Scheffler.

Speaker 67 He did not retire?

Speaker 3 Other people. Oh, there it is.

Speaker 40 Yep, that's fake.

Speaker 63 I got caught.

Speaker 57 All right, so he hasn't retired.

Speaker 31 He might retire.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 39 Yeah, have you seen

Speaker 67 Jerry's trying to get Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers?

Speaker 40 Yep.

Speaker 34 Hard. Rogie.
Hard.

Speaker 37 Rogie.

Speaker 64 Okay.

Speaker 49 Should we do Hot Sea Cool Throne?

Speaker 14 Let's do Hot Sea Cool Trone.

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Speaker 71 Whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff the Silverado is one ride that's always game ready just like football it's about grit grind and getting it done head to chevy comm to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado Hank Hotzi cool drone Hot seat was going to be CJ Gardner Johnson but we discussed that still tough to kind of come come out of your Super Bowl hangover with the swifties on your ass isn't it they're not going away is it his mom that that has that restaurant I believe so yeah that's tough or like some you know someone in his inner circle.

Speaker 71 Um, the other thing I was just laughing at, thinking how you know, crazy tradition is, is the Super Bowl, like, seeing Jalen Hurts at Disney World, and we should have sent Max or Pug to Disney World instead of home.

Speaker 71 Because, like, that's got to be the most miserable experience of all time. Yeah.

Speaker 31 What, Disney World?

Speaker 71 They have to go to Disney World at like 6 a.m.

Speaker 113 Yeah, but they fly private.

Speaker 14 They just go to a couple. I mean, the Tron ride looked sick.

Speaker 31 And they've got beers at Disney World.

Speaker 65 Yeah, I guess that's it. The Tron ride was awesome.

Speaker 71 I was more just thinking, like Max's state, and if he had to just,

Speaker 12 I think Jalen Hurts going to Disney World, like flying private there, cutting every single line, getting to do some roller coasters, and going home is not that bad.

Speaker 12 Max, yeah, if we had sent Max, maybe it'd sent Max and like my kids and been like, Max, you have to go take my three kids to Disney World.

Speaker 31 If we sent Pug, Pug wearing the Mickey Mouse ears, it would be very

Speaker 77 look at the Tron ride.

Speaker 30 How sick does that look?

Speaker 38 Oh, that is sick. Yeah.

Speaker 61 You're like sitting forward.

Speaker 31 I want to do the Tron ride. Yeah, going on that hungover would be the worst.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 71 And then my cool throne is just John Gruden. I don't think, I mean, we didn't really talk about it that much on Friday, and we were kind of in the middle of Super Bowl week last week.

Speaker 71 But coming out of it, I've spent so much time just thinking about John Gruden.

Speaker 106 I miss him. John Gruden.

Speaker 51 I miss him so much.

Speaker 71 We have a crazy surreal job, and we have moments all the time where it's kind of like, pinch me, how is this happening?

Speaker 71 But going away from Super Bowl week and and just being like the amount of time we spent with John Gruden and how just

Speaker 71 unbelievably legendary of a guy he is, off camera, on camera, like, and just the fact that he just hangs with the, like, it'll be on PM TV, I think, but we were, we had a dumb debate with him for like an hour and a half.

Speaker 71 Like, he was max.

Speaker 39 He's, he's the best.

Speaker 40 I miss him.

Speaker 71 You spent like the week in his house, too.

Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 35 No, I would wake up and he would just be sitting there taking notes and like give me a quiz when I would wake up.

Speaker 30 And I was just like, what's going on?

Speaker 31 He's always pumped. Yeah.

Speaker 35 John Gruden is the most pumped individual I've ever hung out with in my life i i i tease this at the end of the gambling stream but i i think i successfully talked john gruden into coming for the first two days of march madness which i'm already just so pumped for i was like do you watch college ball he's like yeah i like college i like any any sports i was like do you want to come gamble with us for two days he's like i'd be into that yeah fuck yes he's always fired up yeah so yeah i miss him i just miss him Same.

Speaker 31 The only thing that really pisses him off is when people in the room are not adequately fired up. Yeah.
He likes to have energy energy in the room. Yeah.

Speaker 71 And he, much like Coach Missoula, like, and that's, I think, just a trait of a good coach, like,

Speaker 71 he just makes you want to be a better person.

Speaker 99 What are you going to say, Max?

Speaker 94 Well,

Speaker 94 it's Hank.

Speaker 87 Hank is the one that he gets mad at. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Mad for not having fired energy. You do need to bring the juice.

Speaker 23 No, I know.

Speaker 71 He makes me want to be a better person. Like, he makes me want to bring the juice.
He makes me want to just, you know, go on.

Speaker 3 So are you going to be a better person?

Speaker 71 I'm going to try for now that I know he's watching. I mean, Missoula is the same way where it's like, now that I've been blessed to meet him and be in his presence, like, I want to be better for him.

Speaker 96 How can you be better?

Speaker 71 I can try harder. I can go harder.

Speaker 72 That's kind of hard.

Speaker 10 That's kind of hurtful, isn't it?

Speaker 52 What?

Speaker 16 Like, Hank has never considered trying to be better for us.

Speaker 83 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 71 No, you guys are better. For this show, for us.

Speaker 86 For us.

Speaker 72 You guys are like me.

Speaker 1 No, he just... What do you mean?

Speaker 52 I want to.

Speaker 56 I'm sharp and I want to be, I want to stay sharp for PFT.

Speaker 31 You think we're lethargic?

Speaker 40 No, but like,

Speaker 31 we go hard. Damn.
Coaches.

Speaker 38 You know what what I'm talking about? Yeah, but like what, like,

Speaker 56 I prep for this show and get ready for this show.

Speaker 18 You know, knowing that PFT is going to do the same.

Speaker 95 No, no, no, but I want to bring my A game because I know PFT will bring his.

Speaker 57 Excellence brings out excellence.

Speaker 2 You have never once thought.

Speaker 72 I'm talking about in life. Yeah, no, but

Speaker 56 this show is our life.

Speaker 5 Right, but

Speaker 38 John Gruy's not around you for your life.

Speaker 31 He's around you when you're working.

Speaker 73 I get hard for you guys.

Speaker 72 Thank you, Max.

Speaker 38 Max gets real hard for me. It's always hard for me.

Speaker 31 That's my hardest boy.

Speaker 13 It's okay. We just can't

Speaker 14 bring out of you what Missoula and Gruden did.

Speaker 63 It's fine. It just hurts.

Speaker 14 I just said it was hurtful.

Speaker 72 I didn't say that you're wrong.

Speaker 31 I just said it hurtful. Some people in this world are self-starters.
Yeah. And they don't need somebody to grab them by the face mask and tell them what to do.

Speaker 31 Other people need to have their hands held.

Speaker 49 And that's okay.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I mean, I guess that's fair. That's a fair point.

Speaker 23 Broke his fucking face.

Speaker 31 Do we need to get harder on you?

Speaker 71 It's not like getting hard. He's not hard on me.
He just, it's just his energy.

Speaker 38 His energy.

Speaker 38 That was when we were having a tight end debate on Barcelona radio and Crude was like, Gronk broke someone's face.

Speaker 61 And I was like, what?

Speaker 34 He did?

Speaker 40 I think he did.

Speaker 14 I think he's like, he broke his neck in half.

Speaker 80 Kyle Vandenbosch? Yeah.

Speaker 38 Yeah, he did. He's like, he broke his face.

Speaker 31 Crude was like, I like that guy, but he broke his neck off.

Speaker 52 He broke his face.

Speaker 71 The only other thing that I was curious about was exactly how the gumbo finished. Like, how did you finish that?

Speaker 31 I finished 15 gumbos on the last night.

Speaker 38 I was a guy.

Speaker 106 What did you do?

Speaker 92 Hey, hey, can I ask you a question about the gumbos?

Speaker 60 Did you need Gruden or Joe Missoula to tell you to do that?

Speaker 31 I did it all on my own. Wow.
I said I was going to do it, and then I followed through because you set a goal, then you hit it.

Speaker 38 That's how you feel good about yourself.

Speaker 65 Love that about you.

Speaker 31 It's good to check shit off the list.

Speaker 31 I do regret doing the gumbo bet

Speaker 31 just because,

Speaker 31 or not a bet, a challenge, the gumbo challenge, just because it made me miss out on so many other good foods that I could have eaten in New Orleans that I would have loved to have had.

Speaker 31 But yeah, I'd finished it up with two gumbos at dinner on Friday night. And yeah, then just went to see Ludacris.
Pretty good show. Left before John Summit.
Sorry, John. Disrespectful.
Embrace debate.

Speaker 80 Jack McCarthy's going to enough John Summit for all of us in this room.

Speaker 49 Embrace debate.

Speaker 31 Is it disrespectful to Ludacris to have him open up for John Summit?

Speaker 30 John Summit's pretty big now.

Speaker 2 Me and PFT were having this debate all weekend.

Speaker 31 Ludacris might not be as hot right now as John Summit. I think he's got like 20 more.

Speaker 24 He might not be?

Speaker 31 You act like Ludacris is fucking chopped liver, Max. Bring up their monthly streams on Spotify.

Speaker 83 No, no.

Speaker 93 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 49 I'm telling you that John Summit

Speaker 31 is bigger than him right now. And it's by like a good margin, but Luda still does very well.
Luda's been doing this shit for 25 years.

Speaker 31 He's in Fast and Furious. He's a megastar.
A little disrespectful to Ludacris, even though John Summit is hotter, right?

Speaker 87 BFT was getting mad at us for saying we're going to

Speaker 87 the John Summit concert, not the Ludacris concert.

Speaker 31 Ludacris show.

Speaker 71 How many songs in the booth does anyone know by Ludacris total?

Speaker 38 Well, I played this game.

Speaker 31 Max came up to me during the show and was like, I'm sorry for disrespecting Ludacris. He's got bad.

Speaker 52 Listen,

Speaker 71 I love Luda, but it does, it's,

Speaker 71 it shows your age, I think.

Speaker 31 Well, no, it also just shows that John Summit is much newer and Ludacris has been doing it for 25 years. Talk to me in 15 years and let me know how hot John Summit is.

Speaker 71 I agree with that. Ludacris has more longevity.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 53 All right, your culture?

Speaker 72 That was your culture.

Speaker 57 Your hot seat, PFT?

Speaker 31 My hot seat is Pitchers and Catchers.

Speaker 110 They're reporting. Yeah.

Speaker 31 I think the Cubs are there.

Speaker 6 The Cubs are the first to report.

Speaker 31 The Dodgers are there, first to report.

Speaker 31 I just remember watching Part of the Interruption when I was a kid growing up, and the first first show after the Super Bowl would always be Tony talking about the beautiful cyclical nature of sports.

Speaker 31 Yep. We lose one and we get rebirth.
Yep. And so baseball's back.
Baseball's so good. Baseball is officially back.
We'll do our baseball preview in probably September.

Speaker 49 When we do dingers-only.

Speaker 31 When dingers-only, yeah.

Speaker 81 But yeah, they're reporting right now.

Speaker 31 And then why? Pitchers and catchers go there first, and then everybody else just shows up all at once.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 31 They don't hang out like with the pitchers and catchers.

Speaker 27 I think pitchers and catchers got to get a nice jump start.

Speaker 31 Just being weirdos down there.

Speaker 98 Warming up their arms.

Speaker 79 Long toss.

Speaker 31 They just do long toss for a week, and then everyone else shows up.

Speaker 61 And then I think they just do

Speaker 75 plays to first.

Speaker 98 That's a whole pitcher.

Speaker 71 That's always the first video. Yeah.
It's just like a bunch of people.

Speaker 50 Them running, covering first base.

Speaker 31 Yeah, and then like in.

Speaker 50 That's what makes the Garrett Cole thing even funnier in the World Series.

Speaker 31 In July sometime, there will be a ground out where they get a dribbler back to the pitcher, and I'll just be like, that's the first thing they work on in spring training.

Speaker 31 Which also means that we're going to get some pictures through chain link fences from reporters where they're standing like 300 yards away the blurriest pictures of all time being like look baseball's back baseball's back there's showhey um my cool throne

Speaker 31 is big men random big men are back

Speaker 31 because we've entered the stage of the nba season where the Lakers don't have a big man.

Speaker 31 And so now people are just going on TV and saying the names of random big men who could fill in to play for the Los Angeles Lakers, even though maybe some of them have been out of the league for like four years?

Speaker 31 Yes. So Stephen A.
Smith was making the case for Dwight Howard today, coming back, which would, I am in support of that just because it would be very funny. Yes.

Speaker 31 But I don't think he's very good at basketball. No.

Speaker 71 But I feel like he stays in shape.

Speaker 57 He probably does, but he's one of those guys that looks in shape, but he probably doesn't have any of the skills that he once had.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 97 Like he looks ripped.

Speaker 84 It's kind of like a T.O.

Speaker 13 Remember when T.O.

Speaker 80 10 years after was still ripped?

Speaker 41 And then he would run a 40 and be like, oh, yeah, that's the difference.

Speaker 49 The speed's not there anymore.

Speaker 31 So I'm going to say some other big men.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 81 Blake Griffin.

Speaker 110 Love it.

Speaker 31 Who says no to Blake Griffin?

Speaker 52 Blake Griffin.

Speaker 31 Blake Griffin's a famous. You don't think Blake Griffin?

Speaker 29 Blake Griffin, awesome.

Speaker 4 Five fouls.

Speaker 115 Awesome commercial.

Speaker 31 Red Lobster commercial.

Speaker 115 You see him dunking?

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 31 He's dunking everything. Spencer Hawes.

Speaker 52 Yes.

Speaker 78 Done.

Speaker 31 Bring him back. But yeah, the Lakers need a center, so you can just say anybody,

Speaker 31 any tall man, be like yeah i could see him get out there give you some fouls

Speaker 31 big perk perk perk caught astray he got really astray

Speaker 31 like instantly perk caught a a shotgun blast from kd over the weekend yeah kd was not so happy about everything well perk perk is the guy that like the further away he gets from playing the better he was oh yeah and i love perk i'll listen to him talk about anything but he was he was like yeah i was a leader of that team and kd's like this is the most ridiculous thing i've heard said online this whole weekend yes yes

Speaker 77 Okay.

Speaker 76 My hot seat is Glenn Taylor because A-Rod and Mark Lurie have become official governors, or they at least won the arbitration to be governors.

Speaker 14 Wait, what does it say?

Speaker 77 Lay off the burgers, Wendy.

Speaker 73 35 minutes ago. That's awesome.

Speaker 23 Dwight Howard said, lay off the burgers, Wendy.

Speaker 31 Well, I saw Stephen A. Smith bring it up and say, like, what about Dwight Howard? And Wendy was like, yeah, no, Dwight Howard is not going to play.
He's about to go into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 31 He's not going going to come back and play. He's not in playing shape.
Lay off the burgers, Wendy.

Speaker 71 No, Marcus Cousins is a great one for that conversation.

Speaker 106 Oh, Boogie.

Speaker 70 Yeah, Boogie could definitely get back out there.

Speaker 31 Zach Randolph?

Speaker 34 I saw Zach Randolph.

Speaker 76 No.

Speaker 81 The

Speaker 5 lay off the burgers, Wendy. No, I think this is.

Speaker 38 This is.

Speaker 71 Winhorse said, like, basically scoffed at the fact that... Dwight Howard would come back.
And Dwight Howard might be saying that because he's going to come back.

Speaker 93 What?

Speaker 31 So you're saying that Stephen A. Smith was right.

Speaker 5 Winhorse couldn't believe that.

Speaker 72 Yeah, he's being mean to me.

Speaker 60 Winhorse couldn't believe that Stephen A.

Speaker 71 Smith suggested the Lakers could sign Dwight Howard. Like, he's saying that Dwight Howard's retired.
He's not capable of coming back. Right.

Speaker 35 But then we follow that.

Speaker 71 So then Dwight Howard's saying lay off the burgers, Wendy, meaning like he's offended that Winhorse thinks he couldn't come back.

Speaker 105 Yes. Right.

Speaker 17 Dwight Howard's back. Right.
Now, Hank is taking that one step further and saying

Speaker 31 it's because Dwight is coming back that he took it so.

Speaker 80 No, he's just being mean to Wendy.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I thought Windhorse said, like, Dwight Howard's coming back, and he said, lay off the burgers.

Speaker 52 No, I'm not.

Speaker 39 No, he's just saying, Wendy's fat.

Speaker 31 But if you're Dwight Howard and you're sitting at home and you hear Stephen A. Smith mention your name, you think about it.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 31 Stephen A. Smith's probably going to be president.

Speaker 58 That's true.

Speaker 110 We're just going to do that all the time.

Speaker 65 I think I think so.

Speaker 51 Either way, A-Rod and Mark Lurie are official governors of the Timberwolves, also hot seat court storming because now the football's over.

Speaker 45 We're just going to have this debate at any point.

Speaker 29 Did you guys see Vandy?

Speaker 16 Vanderbilt's actually doing a new rule where they do a minute timeout after the game.

Speaker 39 So lame.

Speaker 37 Wait, what do you mean?

Speaker 13 They pause, they basically, if Vandy has a big upset at home, they pause everything for a minute after the game ends, and then the kids are allowed to storm the court.

Speaker 31 Oh, so they're giving him a constructive

Speaker 31 school-approved way.

Speaker 52 Yes,

Speaker 31 they set up like points of entrance for them that they get Tim Woods double consent.

Speaker 31 Soon you're you're going to have to buy an extra ticket to storm the court afterwards.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, and then my cool throne is Lane Kiffin because he's just embracing the fact that his daughter's hot.

Speaker 23 I don't know if you guys saw, but he just tweeted out an article.

Speaker 2 Lane Kiffin's daughter, Landry, Slays, Tiny Shoestring, Crop Top, Standing Next to Dad.

Speaker 17 He tweeted the article.

Speaker 18 So, shout out Lane Kiffen.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 62 I mean, he is just hitting it face on, you know?

Speaker 31 I guess so. Like, here it is.
I mean, you might as well just embrace it instead of fight it. Yeah.
It's better than being like, if you were to tweet out, my daughter's ugly. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Which one would you rather have?

Speaker 46 Yeah, you'd just be like, hey, here it is.

Speaker 50 Oh, oh, Max, I got a stat for you that I'm looking at my bookmarks right now.

Speaker 25 You ready for this one? You like this one?

Speaker 13 If Nick Siriani goes 6-11 and misses the playoffs for the next four years in a row, he will have just as many wins, just as many playoff appearances, just as many Super Bowl appearances, and one more Super Bowl title in his first eight years than Kyle Shannon has in his.

Speaker 78 Look at that.

Speaker 65 That's just facts. Those are facts.

Speaker 57 You know, I said it to you.

Speaker 53 Right.

Speaker 104 But you're doing good.

Speaker 38 Oh, I also brought the boot.

Speaker 36 I was meaning to show that when I first came in. It smells horrendous.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 26 But you have to save it for next year, right?

Speaker 57 It might be. Do you think it's...

Speaker 32 Would you put it on for a Phillies run?

Speaker 61 No, you can't. It's got to be just birds, right?

Speaker 74 Yeah, you don't want to overuse it,

Speaker 85 and then it runs out of power.

Speaker 5 That might be true.

Speaker 31 Your must-win boot.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 73 No, but then

Speaker 2 I'm going to be put into situations of.

Speaker 84 If it loses. Yeah, I think it's just playoffs.

Speaker 65 Just playoffs. Just playoffs.

Speaker 87 Because then you're going to use that against me.

Speaker 94 No.

Speaker 18 No, we would never.

Speaker 38 What are you talking about?

Speaker 87 Just playoffs.

Speaker 83 It's a playoff.

Speaker 31 Max is getting a lot better at sniffing these things out. That's a winner now.
That's the entire thing we were trying to do there.

Speaker 71 He's going to sniff out McCarthy, though.

Speaker 43 No.

Speaker 45 Doing fake ads.

Speaker 53 What? No.

Speaker 46 Oh, still doesn't know.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 38 Oh,

Speaker 99 those are fake?

Speaker 89 What do you mean?

Speaker 31 He was having to do fake ads to make you do more shooys out of the boot.

Speaker 36 Did not know that.

Speaker 52 That's the first time he heard of that.

Speaker 116 Did you text him to do that?

Speaker 86 No, he did on his own.

Speaker 87 I think he actually.

Speaker 38 I don't think those were fake. No, they were fake.

Speaker 2 He texted us being like, I'm making him do a bunch of fake ads.

Speaker 73 That's not true.

Speaker 57 you can listen to monday's part of my take when we say it on air and then we played the ads dove is real truly wasn't needed got it he didn't call me he goes oh is there cta and then just hung up

Speaker 22 oh yeah no yeah meaning like he was just he was just proving he was gonna call someone to pretend that it was real he did a very good job yeah

Speaker 31 very funny Hank, do you have any advice for Max about how to establish a dynasty and what this offseason's going to need to look like to continue this run?

Speaker 71 No, you got to soak it in. Now you just got to, you know, Max has kind of been a little bit scared, always worried, always, you know, not confident.

Speaker 71 Now that you're the champions, you have to just be confident. Like, you have to just be a cocky asshole.
Wait, it's playoff time. Wake me up when the playoffs start.

Speaker 71 No matter what happens next year on this show, lose a couple regular season games. They start trying to get you trolling about Siriani or Jalen Hurts.
Is he washed? Is he the guy?

Speaker 71 Wake me up when the playoffs start.

Speaker 85 I don't think I got that in my bag.

Speaker 38 I don't think I have that in No, he's going to live and die with every game.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's get to our interviews.

Speaker 16 We got Adam Silver, and then we have Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 16 Here he is, Commissioner Adam Silver.

Speaker 26 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 41 It is NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, ahead of the NBA All-Star Game weekend in San Francisco.

Speaker 74 Mr.

Speaker 66 Commissioner, is that, should we call you Mr.

Speaker 24 Commissioner? We've never had a commissioner on before.

Speaker 10 Paul Rabel.

Speaker 83 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, second commissioner.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 I know Paul. Adam, please.

Speaker 24 Okay, so Adam, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 50 I have to ask, because

Speaker 3 we're very excited for this interview.

Speaker 56 What was the sell process for you to come on this show?

Speaker 74 Did someone have to tell you, like, hey, these guys actually aren't the worst?

Speaker 75 Because I can't believe you're on.

Speaker 74 We're excited to interview you.

Speaker 98 Well,

Speaker 22 I went to law school in Chicago.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 22 I worked in Washington, D.C. for years.
So I know you guys are D.C. and Chicago guys.
That was a big part of the selling point of coming on. And you guys are fun to watch and listen to.

Speaker 22 You guys do an incredible job.

Speaker 31 I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Also,

Speaker 31 one of our producers is a big Duke fan. Basically, went to Duke.
So, yeah, you've got connections everywhere on the show.

Speaker 38 Yeah, that helps.

Speaker 47 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 62 So, All-Star Weekend.

Speaker 32 How are we feeling going into All-Star Weekend?

Speaker 2 I know you have tried to tinker with the All-Star game to make it

Speaker 50 better for fans.

Speaker 42 How do we feel going into this one?

Speaker 119 I'm feeling good about it.

Speaker 22 One, I love the Bay Area. You know, obviously, four championships there

Speaker 22 since I've been commissioner. So, spent spent a lot of time in the market and multiple finals appearances beyond that.

Speaker 22 Beautiful new arena in San Francisco.

Speaker 22 A new format that we've talked a lot about, you know, where, you know, in essence, working with the Players Association, we came up with this format where it's in essence around robin, you know, games to 40, then a championship.

Speaker 22 So I think that's going to be really exciting for the fans. And I also for us, you know,

Speaker 22 as important as the game itself is, it becomes the epicenter of the basketball world for that weekend.

Speaker 22 It's essentially, you know, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday of events, community events in Oakland and San Francisco, opportunity to see old friends. I've been with the league for a long time.
And

Speaker 22 when you have a neutral site finals, you can't plan to gather there. So essentially, people who've been in business

Speaker 22 for a long time can mark their calendars, you know, be in the Bay Area, our international partners can all be there as well. So it's sort of a three-day long celebration of the game.

Speaker 22 And that for me is the best part about

Speaker 52 the whole long weekend.

Speaker 31 When did you come to the decision that the format of the All-Star game had to be changed? Was there one moment in the game last year where you're like, that's it.

Speaker 31 I can't go back.

Speaker 22 I think it was when I was presenting the championship trophy on the floor at the end of last year's All-Star Game.

Speaker 22 I think everybody, you know, was incredibly disappointed, at least speaking for the fans, the league office. It wasn't what we had hoped for.

Speaker 22 And then once I had an opportunity to talk to the players afterwards, I think they acknowledged as well, whatever happened once they got out there, there wasn't any real competition.

Speaker 22 This was in Indianapolis, like Larry Bird had talked to the team in advance. Julius Irving had others.
We thought we'd all come together with something that we thought would be effective.

Speaker 22 It obviously wasn't. I think then post all-star game, talking to several of the players, the perennial all-stars who we knew would be back, we said, look, we just got to do a better job for the fans.

Speaker 22 We recognize that you just can't turn the clock back. You know, obviously the NFL and Pro Bowl went to flag football.
Baseball's made

Speaker 22 done some changes to tweak their all-star game. So I said, what can we do to make this exciting and entertaining for the fans? And this is how we came up with this new format.
Yeah.

Speaker 50 I got a really dumb question for you, but we're not the smartest guys.

Speaker 84 What exactly does a commissioner do day to day?

Speaker 82 What does your job look like day to day?

Speaker 2 Because I just would imagine it's just like watching the games and then waiting for someone to text you being like, like, we got a problem.

Speaker 22 That's the evening part of my job.

Speaker 22 The day part,

Speaker 22 it's more like a standard business job in many ways than people would think. I mean,

Speaker 22 you've got 30 teams, of course. We've got the WMBA we're overseeing as well, the G League.

Speaker 22 We have a league in Africa now. We're looking at opportunities in Europe.
So part of it is planning for the future.

Speaker 22 Another aspect of it is just regulating this league.

Speaker 22 There's constantly things happening happening with teams, business decisions they're making that if you want to make sure everything's unified as a league, that you have to coordinate among the many teams.

Speaker 22 We have what I was mentioning before about people coming together in the Bay Area. We have literally hundreds of

Speaker 22 business partners, you know, licensees who produce our products, broadcast partners, media partners who distribute our games.

Speaker 22 you know, more traditional sponsors like Pepsi and Amex and Gatorade and companies like that. And so a lot of it's on the relationship side,

Speaker 22 continuing to build those relationships with our partners, negotiating deals with them, helping to plan for the future. It's also, we're a huge enterprise in terms of our budgets.

Speaker 22 And so I think more, that's the part where it's more like a standard job. Like we have thousands of employees and you know, we have an HR department, a legal department, a marketing department.

Speaker 22 So also just bringing all those people together and doing my best I can along with other colleagues just try to lead this enterprise.

Speaker 31 Do you spend any time in your day-to-day day-to-day searching your name online? Because I think you are probably one of the people that gets the most unsolicited advice.

Speaker 22 You know, I don't need to search because people seek me out. And so it comes through emails.
It comes through people forwarding me things that other people are saying.

Speaker 22 We have our own communications department here who's sending me things.

Speaker 22 And in all seriousness, I actually find it very helpful because if you work in an industry where you're so closely covered and you have have fans and a section of the newspaper devoted to you, that you get a lot of unsolicited ideas.

Speaker 22 And so one, I think when you look at things we've done over the last several years, the play-in tournament, the in-season tournament now known as the NBA Cup, all those ideas came from initially outside of the league.

Speaker 22 And that's sort of it's a question of processing those ideas. And also, there's, understandably, fans want changes.
Some, you know, you get criticism, you get, you know, people

Speaker 22 feel good about certain things we're doing. But I think it's my job to do the best I can to incorporate a lot of that feedback.

Speaker 22 And incidentally, when you have 30 teams, 450 players on the NBA side, I mean, part of my job is hearing directly from players.

Speaker 22 You know, I've been at the league for a long time, so when players are coming through New York and playing the Knicks or the Nets, often they'll stop by the office, and in those one-on-one conversations, I can get a better sense from them, you know, how they see the league.

Speaker 22 Also, our

Speaker 22 players are also the age in many cases of our core demographic. So I'm always interested in how a 26-year-old player is consuming the NBA.
Are you watching games on your phone?

Speaker 22 What social media sites are you on? What podcasts like yours are they watching? So that's very helpful. And again, and it's not just owners of 30 teams.
You have team presence and GMs and coaches.

Speaker 22 So lots of different constituent groups that are constantly providing feedback

Speaker 22 to the league office and sharing information with. And that adage has never been more true, that two heads are better than one.

Speaker 22 And I just find that like part of my job is to be a good listener and get advice from others and then somehow filter that advice and figure out what's in the best interest of the league.

Speaker 2 What's the dumbest idea that has gone from, okay, that's a dumb idea to like, all right, we should actually think about this.

Speaker 74 Maybe it never even happened, but you at least paused and said, hey, just look at this for a second.

Speaker 22 You know, last time I got that question on a show like this, it was the question that came from Dan Patrick. It was what was, what's the wildest idea you've gotten? And I said, 10-minute quarters.

Speaker 22 And I've been responding to questions about 10-minute quarters ever since. So I'm going to be really careful how I answer this question.
I mean, I'd say, you know,

Speaker 22 people have raised the issue around the size of the court and the height of the basket. Like, that's one.
I think there have been various times along the way.

Speaker 22 I mean, it's interesting now that there's so much discussion about three-point shooting. You guys probably remember,

Speaker 22 you know,

Speaker 22 was a while ago, but maybe, God, time flies.

Speaker 22 So more sort of in the mid-90s and later where there was a lot of criticism around the game because they thought people thought it become too physical and the game, there was too much activity under the basket and that the players weren't as skilled as they used to be and that they'd lost the art of shooting.

Speaker 22 And at that time, you know, where there seemed to be a prevalence of dunking, the thought was it's too easy to dunk.

Speaker 49 And so

Speaker 22 it's quite remarkable then, jump ahead till now, where there's a lot of discussion around whether the players are frankly too skilled that three-point shooting has become so dominant and that it's the level of difficulty in essence isn't high enough on some of those shots.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 22 I can't say we ever seriously considered either

Speaker 22 raising the height of the basket or widening the court. But those are issues that have come up over the years.
I also think

Speaker 22 I'm trying to think of a particular example.

Speaker 22 I know that a lot of marketing ideas, I got one, you know, that I remember when teams first brought to the league the idea that we would put a brand on the uniform itself.

Speaker 22 And I remember at the time when we first discussed that, people said, and I wasn't commissioner yet when we first did that, David Stern was commissioner, but I was running the business side and people said, I can't believe you're going to make our players look like NASCAR,

Speaker 22 you know, cars, et cetera, whatever. And I think that's become very accepted.
You know, I think we did it in a fairly classy way. It's a relatively small logo on the team jerseys.

Speaker 22 But that not only has added a lot of value to the league, but for those companies that choose to put their logos on team uniforms, they become that much more engaged in the league.

Speaker 22 They're that much more incentivized to promote the league. And so it sort of becomes, you know, a virtuous circle of sort of promotion around it.

Speaker 22 So a few of those things, I think, you know, even looking at, I remember back in the day in the 90s, early 90s now, when the continuous score clock was first proposed. I remember Dick Eversall,

Speaker 22 still a close friend, was the executive producer, the president of NBC Sports. He opposed that idea, you know, both for football and basketball.

Speaker 22 It's almost unimaginable to watch a sporting event now and think you got to wait, you know, however many minutes till the director decides, you know, to show you the score again.

Speaker 22 But remember in those days, I mean, the initial idea was, no, we don't want to show a continuous score because if people tune in and they see it's a 10-point game or whatever, they'll tune out.

Speaker 22 And it took a long time. And again, that's one of those conventions.
It's almost unimaginable now to watch a game where you can't see the score at any moment.

Speaker 22 And my sense is there's, I think, a lot's about to change on the production side.

Speaker 22 I mean, as games are shifting from what I would call traditional television, call that broadcaster cable to streaming, it creates all these new opportunities, all these new capabilities of the streamers because of interactivity to do new things on the screens.

Speaker 22 And I think, you know, we're like, for example, I understand the criticism now from people who don't like to see sports betting information during games, whether it's because they don't want it personally or they don't want their kids to be able to see it.

Speaker 22 I think we're not that far away where you're just going to go click. And if you don't want any information about sports betting, you won't have to look at it.

Speaker 22 On the other hand, if you're someone in a state where it's illegal and you can bet on sports, you'll see a lot more information if that's what you want.

Speaker 22 So I think things will become much more customized over time. Yeah.

Speaker 31 That was a very thoughtful, nuanced answer. And the main takeaway is that Adam Silver has considered raising the basket and extending the three-point line.
So in the the past, you've thought about it.

Speaker 31 You have. The thought has crossed your mind.

Speaker 86 Here I go. Yeah.

Speaker 38 Have you thought about

Speaker 38 it the second time?

Speaker 32 Listen, just throwing this out there, like in baseball, every park is different.

Speaker 2 You know, the Yankee Stadium, they got the short porch.

Speaker 24 Have you thought about home teams getting to decide their own dimensions?

Speaker 40 So like you go to Detroit and they've got eight-foot rims.

Speaker 3 You go to play the Warriors and they've got

Speaker 32 they've extended their three-point line by three feet.

Speaker 3 So every game is different.

Speaker 32 It's like, oh, we got to go play here. They're playing on 14-foot rims.

Speaker 63 That'd be fun.

Speaker 22 I definitely can make some news with my answer to that one. I would say, so no, for the record, I haven't thought about that.
But it is an interesting comparison.

Speaker 22 You know, I will say, just because you mentioned baseball, talking about rule changes, I'm a huge baseball fan and I'm a big change. a big fan, I'm sorry, of the changes that they've made.

Speaker 22 Like, I think, you know, the pitch clock, you know, slightly enlarging the bases to make stealing easier and stuff like that.

Speaker 22 Like, I've looked at those things, you know, and we've talked about that at the league office and with our competition committee.

Speaker 22 And when I think the most traditional, in my mind, of all sports, you know, the most resistant to change, the fact that they're making changes in that sport to keep up with the times, I'm not sure, you know, different basket heights and different arenas is the answer, but I think it just means we have to stay on our toes and be open-minded about potential changes.

Speaker 32 By the way, I just want to correct one thing.

Speaker 58 Technically, you have thought about changing the rims and the, because we literally were just discussing it so we'll put that out there inceptive you have you have technically thought of it just through this conversation

Speaker 22 we got you there yeah so have you ever do you ever hang out with other commissioners you know and just be like hey commissioner to commissioner here's something i'm thinking about a little bit i i don't know if if they would describe it as hanging out but um i used to when i first got to the nba 90s gary bettman still worked here yeah before he went to the nhl so he worked for david stern at the nba so and and we've stayed close over the years.

Speaker 22 Roger Goodell and I, I knew him well even before he became commissioner when Paul Tagle was commissioner. And he's been great.

Speaker 22 When I remember the first thing when it was announced I was commissioner, Roger was actually one of the first people to reach out to me and said, you know, anything I can share with you, anything that would be helpful with you?

Speaker 22 So we're obviously competitors

Speaker 22 in certain ways, but I think we're all fellow travelers trying to help each other think this notion that, you know, a rising tide raises all boats, that it's what's good for premium professional sports is good for all of us.

Speaker 22 Same with Rob Manfred. I think I became commissioner right before he did.

Speaker 22 And we've compared notes on a lot of issues over the years. Again, as I said, I'm a big baseball fan.
He's invited me over the years to a bunch of different events that I've been to with him.

Speaker 22 I've been to Yankee games here in New York with him. So yeah, we all talk to each other.
I mean, everybody's running around slightly different seasons.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 22 we don't get to spend that much time together, but they're all great guys.

Speaker 31 Yeah, there's some battles and some problems that only a fellow commissioner might understand. I'm sure that you go through.

Speaker 31 Do you have, hypothetically, not talking about anything in specific, but hypothetically, do you have anything that's in place where you could potentially deny a trade?

Speaker 31 If like a team wanted to send a superstar to another team and maybe the return value on that superstar was not what would generally be expected?

Speaker 6 You talking about Kyle Kuzma?

Speaker 83 Yeah, so I'm a wizard.

Speaker 38 What you're referencing is that I'm a Wizards fan and we just sent Kuzma.

Speaker 22 Believe it or not, and there's some confusion.

Speaker 22 People have yelled out to me for some reason in the last week or so when I've been at games that I should be vetoing that trade the way David Stern vetoed a trade back in the old days.

Speaker 22 And there's always some confusion there.

Speaker 22 David never vetoed a trade that when he was the acting owner of New Orleans and the commissioner at the time that he turned down a trade that was proposed to him by the general manager of the team.

Speaker 22 But no, I mean, the way we don't put a thumb on the scale, so to speak, that when a trade comes into the league office, what our sort of basketball and legal legal folks do is they make sure that that trade works under the confines of the collective bargaining agreement and whatever rules are in place, and then it's up or down.

Speaker 22 It gets approved or not based on those rules. We don't get to weigh in on what we think the merits of the trade are or should be.

Speaker 31 Okay. Gotcha.
I am going to miss Kuzma. Big cat's right.
That broke my heart.

Speaker 26 Did you at least text like a, are you sure?

Speaker 38 No. Okay.
You were probably.

Speaker 54 Honestly, let's level.

Speaker 31 You were probably like, oh, Luca's going to L.A., huge market.

Speaker 83 That's cool.

Speaker 22 You know, honestly,

Speaker 22 and I promise, you know, look at the league right now, that two clearly smaller market teams, certainly Oklahoma City and Cleveland's a little bigger than Oklahoma City, but not one of the bigger markets in the league, are the two best records in the league right now.

Speaker 22 And I think it's great. You know, we've had six different champions over the last six years.
And,

Speaker 22 you know, this may sound obvious, but I want all our teams to do well and be competitive. And frankly, Dallas is a big market.

Speaker 22 And so, you know, was I surprised that he was traded from that standpoint? Yeah, I'm a fan. And the teams don't necessarily give the league inside information on those kinds of things.

Speaker 22 So that trade was, you know, it wasn't one that I saw coming. And by the way, I love Luca.
I've known him since the day he came into the league. He's obviously a great player.
He's a great young man.

Speaker 22 And teams make these trades for reasons that in some cases only they know.

Speaker 22 They have inside information about a player. They're living with a player.
They have a particular style they want to play. They have a vision for what that team should become.

Speaker 22 And truly, only time will tell. I mean, the one thing I'll say, having been with this league for a long time, like truly nothing is written.
People who say they can predict the future generally can't.

Speaker 22 And we'll see. I'm sort of rooting for Dallas and I'm rooting for the Lakers.
I'm rooting for Anthony Davis to recover quickly and be the all-star we know he can be and stay healthy for a long time.

Speaker 22 And I'm definitely rooting for Luca to demonstrate to the world what a great player he is in L.A.

Speaker 2 Okay, so we shouldn't come to Adam Silver for grading of trades because we like to, in sports media, like to just grade trades instantly and say that we're right and we know the future.

Speaker 22 You have your job and I have my job.

Speaker 53 Your job is to create trades.

Speaker 22 My job is to make sure they comply with league rules.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 13 You mentioned David Stern.

Speaker 57 I didn't realize this,

Speaker 3 but you got into the NBA by writing a letter to a bunch of different people asking for advice, and David Stern was one of those people who actually responded.

Speaker 74 Is that true? Because that's a very important

Speaker 52 story.

Speaker 22 I was practicing law in New York,

Speaker 22 just had only been a lawyer for a few years and decided I wanted to do something different. I wasn't, I'm still happy I went to law school.
It's been very helpful to me along the years.

Speaker 22 over the years, but I wrote David a letter. This is pre-internet, where you wrote letters and mailed them.

Speaker 103 And

Speaker 22 And I actually was looking for advice.

Speaker 22 It wasn't so much that I thought I wanted to work at the MBA.

Speaker 22 And I'm always telling young people this story because it's so different these days where you can go on the internet and find out all kinds of information about the MBA and what happens at legal office.

Speaker 22 And there's all these sites where they rape people's jobs and they talk about whether they think they're fairly compensated and all that. Obviously, none of that existed in those days.

Speaker 22 And so David was someone who had worked at a law firm in New York before he had made the transition.

Speaker 22 He came over to the NBA as the general counsel before he was the commissioner, but I wrote him a letter saying, I'm also a lawyer in New York. I'd be interested in making the transition.

Speaker 22 I wasn't so sure that it would be to a sports league. And in fact, at the time, I worked for a law firm that was representing HBO, and I was fascinated with the media business.

Speaker 22 And David at that time had recently done some of the initial cable deals where it was the early days of TBS, and he had done a broadcast deal.

Speaker 22 Ted Turner was also an owner of the Atlanta Hawks and he had done a deal with Ted Turner to put NBA games on TBS.

Speaker 22 And because I was doing a lot of work for HBO, David Stern's name kept coming up in the context of media. So I wrote him a letter saying, you know, I'm interested in making this transition.

Speaker 22 If you ever had time, I'd love to meet you and talk to you. I'd actually met him once before.
He had worked at one point at the same law firm as my father.

Speaker 22 I didn't really know David, but the sort of letter began, I am the son of such and such, and and hoping that that would sort of build a bridge to him.

Speaker 22 I remember his,

Speaker 22 he called me, you know, and I think in those days too, you were used to sending a letter and not hearing back for, you know, some cases, weeks. It was just everything moved at a different pace.

Speaker 22 His assistant called me at some point and said,

Speaker 22 he'd like to schedule time with you. And my office was in New York City.
I mean, where I am today in the MBA office is the same place as we were in the early 90s when Dave was commissioner.

Speaker 22 And I was just across town. An assistant called me, scheduled, and again, like everything moved slower.
It was like you freed two weeks from Tuesday or whatever. And I came and saw him.

Speaker 22 And he gave me some advice about how I might transition out of the law. If that's what I was interested in doing, and some media advice.

Speaker 22 And then I'll condense the story because I've already been long-winded. At some point, he reached back out to me and said, there's something I'd like to talk to you about.

Speaker 22 And it turned out he was looking for an assistant. And he ultimately hired me.

Speaker 22 And my first job at the MBA was was special assistant to the commissioner work for David I was I was 30 years old it was so 32 years ago I came to work here and and then worked as his assistant then became chief of staff I mentioned you know and I then went to the what was the entertainment side of the business ran a division called NBA Entertainment for years deputy commissioner and so this is my sixth job being commissioner so I worked my way up the ladder yeah

Speaker 22 that's awesome it's very cool that he took the time to do that yeah very very cool yeah no it was by the way I have to say I mean, you know, David changed my life in so many ways.

Speaker 22 And I had five different jobs before I was commissioner, all of them working for David.

Speaker 22 And I sort of would joke to people, even when I was the deputy commissioner, my job was still the special assistant, David Stern.

Speaker 38 Right.

Speaker 22 And, I mean, you guys, everybody is, you know, you may have had a chance to meet him over the years. I mean, he was full of life.
He was a genius when it came to sports marketing.

Speaker 22 I think as much credit as he gets, maybe not enough for transforming the whole industry, not just the NBA, just just everybody's approach.

Speaker 22 Even I remember when I came to work at the NBA, I mean, he was the first person who really thought of the NBA as a brand, you know, as a brand marketer, even though his background was as a lawyer.

Speaker 22 I mean, now it's just a given that NBA is a brand, MLB, NHL, NFL, obviously, you know, but it's like he had a whole different way, a whole different vocabulary of approaching sports.

Speaker 22 And also, I think about how much of my time now I spend on growing the game globally. I mean, David was so far ahead of his time.

Speaker 22 And when I got to the NBA in 92, you know, shortly thereafter was the Dream Team, and, you know, which also transformed the NBA. I mean,

Speaker 22 one other interesting statistic, at the time that I got to the NBA, roughly 5% of the players in the league were born outside of the United States. Now it's around 30%.

Speaker 22 You know, when you mentioned Luca or Giannis, you know, go down to Wemby. You know, now, you know, the Joker, our very best players.
Many of them are born outside of the United States now.

Speaker 22 And that pool of players, I mean, just you got a chance to watch some of the Olympics out of Paris, that U.S.-Serbia game or the U.S.-France game. You know,

Speaker 22 there's so much high-level basketball being played around the world. And David really had that vision that this could truly be a global game.

Speaker 53 It's very cool.

Speaker 31 Well, while we have you here, I just want to give you a piece of unsolicited advice from me and take it for what you will, but I think a lot of people agree with me.

Speaker 31 One of the most frustrating things to watch in the NBA, and I love watching basketball, but this is very frustrating when players are obviously flopping and embellishing fouls.

Speaker 31 Is it in consideration to make embellishment flopping reviewable, technical foul, cut and dry? Don't do it because it's tough to watch on T V.

Speaker 22 Well, so, you know, it was only either a year ago or two years ago we added

Speaker 22 the ability to call a technical in-game, you know, for flopping.

Speaker 22 So that was a change in rules, a new rule that we did, you know, modeled a little bit after the FIBA rules, the international basketball rules.

Speaker 22 And we have a provision where we do review after the fact. Obviously, we want finality in the game, so we're not going to go back and change scores or anything, but guys can be fined after the fact.

Speaker 22 And at least according to our own, you know, sort of reviews of the games, we've cut back considerably on flopping.

Speaker 22 It's still, I will say that, you know, for my European colleagues, European friends, you know,

Speaker 22 There's a tradition in European soccer, global soccer, of flopping. It was sort of, to me, brought to the NBA stylistically by a a lot of the international players.

Speaker 22 A lot of them grew up as soccer players.

Speaker 22 We've tried to crack down on it. You know, it's, it's, again, I think we've made progress.

Speaker 22 My sense is that as various forms of replay get better and get faster, you know, look, the problem is, by definition, you're fooling the ref.

Speaker 22 And if you get away with it, you know, especially in real time,

Speaker 38 all you can do after the fact is potentially find the players.

Speaker 22 But, you know,

Speaker 22 and I think you said it, it's the embellishment is the hardest because now they're teaching in youth basketball is, you know, you want to demonstrate to the officials, at least the way they're taught, is to embellish to that the official clearly sees.

Speaker 22 So, you know, you're often seeing somebody shoved and they're going flying backwards. And then, so the official in real time, and

Speaker 22 I understand too, you know,

Speaker 22 you know, player frustration, fan frustration, sometimes with the officiating, we're doing everything we can

Speaker 22 to make it better. But

Speaker 22 when I watch the officials it's remarkable to me what they can do in real time I mean when you think in a split second and the speed of the game to making those calls and then add flopping on top of that or embellishment that they're supposed to be able to discern the difference and you know the the amount of force that's going into a push and the reaction from the players I

Speaker 22 will say that that you know technology, the changes in technology will help us there.

Speaker 22 I mean, just shifting slightly, it doesn't go directly to flopping, but guys are constantly trying to fool the officials when who did it touch last, and they're pointing and et cetera. That

Speaker 22 we're not that far away from having technology where, just like you think in tennis, where

Speaker 22 there's an automated call as to whether the ball was inside the line or outside of the line, it's this technology called Hawkeye, it's owned by Sony.

Speaker 22 We're working

Speaker 22 with Sony also to bring that to basketball so that whoever's think there's 100 fingers on the floor at any given time, various body parts, you know, to instantaneously show who the ball went out on, you know, if somebody's foot was on the line,

Speaker 22 anything that can be objectively determined, goaltending, et cetera. And I think that will allow, so one, there'll be a whole category of calls that will be objectively right or wrong,

Speaker 22 and will speed up the game from that standpoint.

Speaker 22 But just as importantly, for those more subjective calls, the officials won't have to both be looking at the feet of somebody's feet to see if they touch the line and their hands hands at the same time.

Speaker 22 They can really focus on what is truly subjective. And I think we'll be able to do a better job sort of discerning whether there's some kind of embellishment going on.
So it's, you know,

Speaker 22 if the standard is perfection, we got a long ways to go, but I think we've made improvements there.

Speaker 20 Have you thought about maybe making the standard not perfection? And I say that in that I think you've talked about this before.

Speaker 13 The review system, games slow down at the end.

Speaker 20 It's a really hard watch for people and we want to watch the action.

Speaker 84 What about just doing a week where there's no reviews?

Speaker 3 And every team knows it, and it's like, hey, we're not doing any instant replay. We're not doing any reviews.

Speaker 13 The call on the court stands and just see how the game flow goes.

Speaker 22 It's interesting to say that. Like, number one, we did, you know, a couple of years ago, we changed the format at the end of the game.

Speaker 22 We reduced the number of timeouts and we reduced the ability for officials to go to discretionary reviews.

Speaker 22 I mean, you recall just a few years ago, virtually every play, towards the last two minutes, you know, the players were going like this, you know, so we added one more coaches challenge, you know, but but we reduced those discretionary reviews.

Speaker 22 And I think that's that's made a big difference. And to your point,

Speaker 22 I've had many players and coaches tell me over the years that they would prefer speed to accuracy in certain cases because especially near the end of the game, you know, when there's those long reviews, guys are literally getting cold standing there, getting out of rhythm, and they just assume, say, all right, you know, you know, red ball and move forward and move on, as opposed to waiting for the endless reviews.

Speaker 22 And as I said, I think back to the technology, that there, that, you know, some people also don't like that we might have a different standard in the last two minutes, but look, when you have a game like basketball where there's a lot of scoring, even if there's a bad call in the second quarter, you can make up for it over the course of the game.

Speaker 22 But you can't necessarily in the last two minutes. So I'm in favor of there potentially being more scrutiny.

Speaker 22 But as I was saying, if you can use technology and take a whole category of calls off the table and that they're now objective, you know, I think we can reduce the number of replays.

Speaker 22 Because also in those calls, just like in tennis, it'll just be, you'll see sort of the quick animation.

Speaker 22 I think you need transparency. People don't want to just be told, you know, bull's ball.

Speaker 38 They want to know what happened.

Speaker 22 And just like in tennis, ding, ding, ding, ding, you'll see like some animation, you'll see what's going on.

Speaker 22 But then, and also, if you think back, like some early days in tennis, there there was a lot more arguing

Speaker 22 with the officials. And now, once you see that animation, and there's an ooh and an ah from the fans that just barely touch the line or whatever else, but you know, it's play on.

Speaker 22 And I think everyone would prefer that.

Speaker 56 Yeah, just think about no review week.

Speaker 72 It'd be a whole event.

Speaker 63 We could just be like, hey, it's no review week.

Speaker 31 Yeah, suck it up. Yeah, this is kind of a fun thing.

Speaker 22 When I say I'm thinking about it, does that mean it's under consideration?

Speaker 31 Yeah, you've already thought it's under consideration. Yeah, you've already said that.
Just have every ref just say, life isn't fair. Yeah, right.

Speaker 28 Tough shit.

Speaker 11 You know, it's interesting, though, but

Speaker 22 I have actually made that point, not using those

Speaker 22 same language, but, you know, human error is part of this game. It's certainly part of the game when a player misses a shot.

Speaker 22 Somehow it gets lost sometimes, that it's also part of the game when an official makes a mistake.

Speaker 22 And I get it. And if an official makes too many mistakes, they can't be an official in this league.

Speaker 22 You're right. Perfection can't be the standard.
There are going to be mistakes. And I think often what separates the best teams is their ability to move on from that mistake.

Speaker 22 And I just lastly say, you know, we have seven-game series in the playoffs. And I think that, as I think some of the best basketball minds in the league will say,

Speaker 22 it's highly likely that at least for that week or two weeks, the better team is going to win the seven-game series, regardless of the officiate.

Speaker 31 Also, a bad call gives us something to yell about the day after the show. Yeah.
Right? So we'll be screaming.

Speaker 31 If you just make it perfection, it's like we're the dog that was chasing the car and then we got to get it.

Speaker 22 And it's all those trades we were talking about that

Speaker 22 NBA seems ready-made for social media. Yes, yes.

Speaker 34 It does.

Speaker 31 It does, yeah. Has there been any consideration to adjusting the league schedule? I know it's been in place for a long time in the general format that it's in, but but waiting and starting the

Speaker 31 year on maybe Christmas Day and extending it at the end?

Speaker 22 There has been. I mean, that is one thing that we have thought a fair amount about, and we've looked at different proposals.

Speaker 22 And I think for a lot of people, you're right, that there was always this notion that the league, you know, in the old days, we would start on NBC on Christmas Day, we would start on network television Christmas Day, sort of, you know, the regular season of the NFL had wound down.

Speaker 22 People could now move their attention to the NBA. The issue we have there

Speaker 22 is one of moving into the summer.

Speaker 22 And by the way, things are changing so rapidly, culturally in terms of viewership and everything else that nothing, no idea is ever completely dead, but at least historically the thought was we wanted our season to be over by July 1st in essence.

Speaker 22 And was sort of working backwards.

Speaker 22 If you're going to get the draft in in the last week of June, you know, and you're going to therefore start the finals, anticipating you potentially could have a seven-game finals, it means you've got to start roughly June 1st, working backwards.

Speaker 22 Sort of, that's how you end up with a training camp in October season that starts roughly the beginning of November. I mean, people's television habits have changed dramatically.

Speaker 22 I think in large part, you know, we all, you know, reaching for my phone, we all carry a TV with us everywhere we go now.

Speaker 22 I look at the kinds of things I would put you guys in the category of non-traditional media, you know, that the amazing popularity now of podcasts like yours, people's enormous amount of time, you know, looking at screens, listening to audio feeds of things.

Speaker 22 That, you know, the other thing about us moving into July is sort of let's just say, okay, you can move the finals into July. Then you got, we have our summer league.

Speaker 22 When does the, you know, and part of it, it's it's actual consideration, like when do they get vacation?

Speaker 22 And part of it is it's always in our

Speaker 22 traditionalist league, there's sort of the equivalent of a summer vacation that matches up with family vacations. Even once summer league ends, it's sort of the third week of July.

Speaker 22 Things can settle down a little bit.

Speaker 22 for the last part of July and August. And now I'm not talking about the league office largely for the players and your rest on their body and everything else.
So

Speaker 22 I will say

Speaker 22 I think think all these things we will continue to look at. I don't think in the short term we'll do it.

Speaker 22 I just lastly say, I mean, there used to be this notion, you know, in television they call hut levels, households using television, that traditionally, because of summer vacation and things, that once you got to July 1st, there were fewer people watching television, which why, again, historically, you know, all the prime time shows, you know, when we were younger, would launch in the fall.

Speaker 22 You can almost think of the beginning of the NFL season, the formal shows would launching. I think, though, now, as I said, like people's television habits have changed dramatically.

Speaker 22 Like, streaming has changed a lot of those conventions. Like, new shows launch on Netflix all the time.
You know, in July, nobody thinks twice about it.

Speaker 22 So, I think these are all things that we'll continue to look at.

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Speaker 13 I have to pitch you my one idea that I've had for many years and you got to think about it And I don't need credit for it when you actually enact it.

Speaker 97 So there's obviously been issues at times with fans getting a little unruly, maybe talking too much to the players, that whole experience.

Speaker 18 My rule is very simple.

Speaker 50 Every single player when the season starts gets one chance to call out any fan they want, and then they just get to beat the fuck out of them in the middle of the court.

Speaker 13 And once they use it,

Speaker 13 they can't use it again for the rest of the year.

Speaker 49 Thoughts on that rule?

Speaker 86 Not a good idea.

Speaker 56 Okay, but listen, no, you're not seeing the vision.

Speaker 56 When you see Kevin Durant, you decide to say something really

Speaker 84 mean to him, you're like, wait, does he have his one fight of fan left this year?

Speaker 22 You lost me on the beat the shit out of him party.

Speaker 72 Yeah, well,

Speaker 22 if I was with you up to like, all right, you can single out one fan, and then we'll review that fan's conduct.

Speaker 93 Think about the ratings.

Speaker 52 So, Mr.

Speaker 56 Commissioner, think about the ratings.

Speaker 13 They're like, oh, my God, we're going to Sacramento, and, you know, DeMar DeRosan has called out someone from the 10th row, and they're about to fight in the middle of the, they're stopping the game to fight.

Speaker 62 We'll bring a cage

Speaker 38 of the arena.

Speaker 22 Is the fan allowed to fight back? Yes, yes.

Speaker 86 So that's also part of it. Like, you don't want to.

Speaker 22 I didn't fully consider your idea. Yeah.

Speaker 84 Like, you call out someone with cauliflower ears, and you might be, you might have been asking for too much.

Speaker 22 Are you making fun of my ears?

Speaker 26 No, you don't have cauliflower ears, but I have made fun of your ears in the past.

Speaker 12 I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 I apologize.

Speaker 22 Long time listener.

Speaker 17 Well, yeah, you can listen to anything.

Speaker 38 Sorry,

Speaker 92 you put you out of that for me.

Speaker 38 Sorry. I walked into that.

Speaker 31 Or just maybe at least just allowing fights like in hockey.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Like blow it off. Yeah.
You know, it's so interesting.

Speaker 22 I will say I'm a New Yorker. I'm a Rangers fan and go to games occasionally.

Speaker 22 And as you guys remember, there was that era, again, back to the 90s where there was a fair amount of fighting in the league. And David Stern, you know, he cracked down on it.

Speaker 22 You know, we had automatic suspensions, walking off the bench and all that. And it's still surprising me to this day when I go to a hockey game and they face up and the officials step back.

Speaker 53 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 22 You know, and I get, I mean, there's, there's, there's, you know, it's part of the culture of hockey.

Speaker 22 And I know I've heard the arguments that by having allowing players to fight things out in that way actually cuts down on violence in certain cases by having enforcers and everything else.

Speaker 22 It's obviously so foreign to the NBA, but, you know, based on the idea you're sharing. Think about it.
I'll share it with Gary Bettman too, maybe just bring fans in as well.

Speaker 38 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, that's happened before.

Speaker 31 Ty Dome and the penalty box.

Speaker 24 We had a lot more dumb ideas that maybe next time you come on, we can pitch pitch you because I know that we had a ton of them.

Speaker 42 So maybe we'll just do an entire podcast where we give you the dumbest ideas.

Speaker 10 All right, I'm available.

Speaker 2 I did have a fix for the All-Star weekend.

Speaker 35 It was just in line with the LeBron Brownie thing that the winning team gets automatically, their firstborn gets a one-year contract in the NBA.

Speaker 31 That's a good idea, too. That's a pretty good idea.
That's a good idea.

Speaker 5 Or

Speaker 10 Legacy League.

Speaker 31 When I was going to pitch them, which I won't pitch them, but I was just going to pitch him rigging the draft.

Speaker 38 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 37 That would be a smart idea.

Speaker 18 That would be a good thing.

Speaker 62 For which team?

Speaker 31 For the Wizards. Cooper flag to the Wizards.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 You know, I'm a Duke guy.

Speaker 31 Cooper's unbelievable. He's great.
He's great. We would take such good care of him in D.C.
You're also a DC guy.

Speaker 92 Yes, there you go.

Speaker 96 All right.

Speaker 50 Well, Commissioner, thank you so much.

Speaker 26 We really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Hopefully you enjoyed this and we can have you on again. And like I said, we'll do an episode, special episode, where we just give you the hundred dumbest ideas we've ever thought of.

Speaker 50 And when you think about them, everyone's going to be like, Adam Silver's thinking about this because you are thinking thinking about the fight a fan rule.

Speaker 62 You have technically thought of it.

Speaker 31 Mulling it over.

Speaker 68 Yes. All right.

Speaker 26 Thanks so much. Good luck this weekend at All-Star Weekend.

Speaker 62 Thank you, Chris.

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Speaker 31 And now here is Joe Burrow.

Speaker 13 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 70 It is our good friend, Joe Burrow, who should be the MVP this year, but he's here promoting the FedEx Aaron Ground NFL Player of the Year, where you are a nominee.

Speaker 23 Joe, good to see you.

Speaker 70 This is the first time we've all been together in New Orleans

Speaker 70 since you won the national championship.

Speaker 13 It's good to see you somewhat sober right there.

Speaker 109 Yeah, I feel great right now.

Speaker 109 I couldn't say the same five years ago.

Speaker 70 Yeah, but you are a nominee for FedEx Aaron Ground NFL Player of the Year.

Speaker 70 I'll I'll confidently say I feel like you reminded everyone about Joe Burrow because we had that conversation in June that people forgot about Joe Burrow.

Speaker 70 I don't think people forget about Joe Burrow anymore.

Speaker 109 I agree. I think I had a great year.
I think I had my best year as a pro.

Speaker 109 I'm excited for I think there's another level that I can hit, so I'm excited to go and hit that next year.

Speaker 31 Okay, what's the next level?

Speaker 7 Be better.

Speaker 31 Better than this, Joe.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 31 So, like 7,000 yards?

Speaker 31 7,000?

Speaker 99 I mean, the

Speaker 99 stats are going to fluctuate year to year, really.

Speaker 78 And

Speaker 109 it just kind of depends on how the year is going, how each individual game is going.

Speaker 109 Because you could throw for four touchdowns in the first quarter, and then the game's over, but you threw for 170 yards, and now you're not really throwing it anymore.

Speaker 109 So it kind of just depends on the year, but just playing better, really.

Speaker 31 If you have a great game, let's say you throw for like 400 yards, four touchdowns, hypothetically, something like that, and you end up losing that game.

Speaker 31 You feel bad afterwards, I'm sure, because you want to win. How long does it take for you through that week to be like, you know what? I'm actually pretty happy with my performance.

Speaker 109 It's definitely better than throwing for 150 and losing.

Speaker 109 I would say it kind of just depends on how you feel like you played.

Speaker 109 Sometimes you could throw for a lot of yards, but then you missed a couple early in the game, you missed a couple late in the game, you made a couple bad decisions, you don't really feel like you played great, but

Speaker 109 most of the time when you throw for 400, you feel pretty good about it. Yeah.

Speaker 31 To keep waiting for old Norm Van Brockland's record to fall.

Speaker 31 Was it 550 yards passing in the game?

Speaker 31 It's kind of crazy that it had, I think it's 545, maybe it hasn't happened in like 50 years, and with the NFL being so pass-heavy right now, you keep hoping like one, one of these days a quarterback will throw for 550.

Speaker 31 I'd like it to be you.

Speaker 109 Yeah, I got to 525. in 2021 against the Ravens.
So I'm third. I think I am third in that list, but

Speaker 109 would be nice to have a five, a 600-yard game would be pretty cool. Yeah, I dare you, dude.
Mahomes had like a 700-yard game in college

Speaker 86 against Baker at Oklahoma.

Speaker 109 That was crazy.

Speaker 70 That box score is a very fun box score to look at where you're just like, oh, shit.

Speaker 60 Were you in the zone at all this year?

Speaker 70 Because it feels like you were. There was that, I want to call it like five, six, seven-game stretch where it was just like write it down, 275, three touchdowns every single week.

Speaker 109 Yeah,

Speaker 109 after the first Baltimore game, I feel like I was pretty dialed in for the rest of the year.

Speaker 33 Yeah, yeah, because you could kind of tell.

Speaker 70 It was just like, I don't want to say it was on easy mode for you, but you could tell me if

Speaker 70 you ever felt like that. Maybe it's a better way to say it is

Speaker 70 you just, it felt like you saw everything so perfectly for that stretch.

Speaker 109 It was moving slow for me. It definitely felt easy at times.

Speaker 109 Definitely didn't feel easy at times too, but

Speaker 109 that's how life in the NFL goes. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Yeah. And tonight you've got the NFL honors.
Good luck. Thanks.
I think statistically, a lot of people would say Joe Burrow could be the MVP.

Speaker 31 But more importantly, what are you going to wear to this?

Speaker 10 You've got a fit planned?

Speaker 109 I've got a nice Aloe suit planned. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Anything shocking?

Speaker 109 No shirt underneath.

Speaker 35 Wait, Aloe is the

Speaker 70 place in California with the saunas and stuff? Correct. Yeah, they don't let guys like us in there.

Speaker 109 I'm sure they would let you interview. Absolutely.
If you came with me? Oh, no way.

Speaker 93 They would just be like, can you just wait at the car i see those videos it's just all hot people

Speaker 109 i mean maybe yeah yeah

Speaker 31 you just confirmed that in a nice way you confirmed that sir two homeless people just followed you in would you like us to arrest them yeah

Speaker 70 hello is not for us uh do you regret any of your fits this year the ellen degenerous one which one was that uh it was the the pink shirt with the white vest and the white pants okay that one wasn't my best okay all right good all right i feel good because i was i was going to start asking about it, but that one you got roasted.

Speaker 109 Probably my least favorite of the year.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 109 I wore a lot of pink this year.

Speaker 109 But I felt pretty good about most of them, I would say. Now,

Speaker 70 we've always wondered, like, when you wear a fit like that and then you lose, you go straight to sweats right after, right? Or do you go back into the fit?

Speaker 109 I think it just depends on the game.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 109 If it's a...

Speaker 109 If it's like a playoff game and we lose, I'll probably wear the fit to the press conference. Because one year, Cam

Speaker 109 wore a suit to the Super Bowl, and then they lost, and then

Speaker 109 didn't wear it to the press conference, and people

Speaker 109 felt weird about that.

Speaker 82 Yeah, I actually respected that.

Speaker 23 I think you should have like a set.

Speaker 70 Maybe you should have like a clown suit if you lose. You actually put on a clown costume.

Speaker 38 That's not about it.

Speaker 92 It kind of deflects it away from you, yeah.

Speaker 109 What if the NFL made that a rule? If you lose, you have to wear the clown suit to the press conference.

Speaker 92 Big red nose. Yeah, I kind of like that.

Speaker 31 No, you and I actually have a little bit in common, Joe. We've both been victims of crime this year.
I had all my clothes stolen off my front porch.

Speaker 109 Why was it on your front porch? Well, I did.

Speaker 31 I sent it away for laundry because it was a long weekend of football, so I wasn't home to do the wash. But I had two big-ass bags of clothes that just got stolen off my front porch.

Speaker 31 And I lost basically all my clothes. I've been trying to dress like you.
Do you have any advice for me? Like, do you have a stylist that you use? Because I feel like now I'm 40.

Speaker 31 I got to level up a little bit. I got to start, you know, stunting on these hoes a little bit.

Speaker 31 So, yeah, who's your stylist and can they also give me some help?

Speaker 109 His name's Kyle Smith.

Speaker 109 He does great.

Speaker 109 He just brings some stuff and I tell him if I like it, if I don't like it, and if I'm going to wear it or if I'm not going to wear it. Okay.

Speaker 100 That's pretty easy.

Speaker 31 You think I could pull off some of those fits?

Speaker 96 100%.

Speaker 31 When people say like, oh, you look like Ellen DeGeneres and this or whatever, like they say that about me, but in like a bad way. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 31 With you, it's like, oh, yeah, you can look like a lesbian and be hot. With me, it's like, you look like a fool.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Yeah, when

Speaker 69 people say that, like, it's

Speaker 109 like a derogatory comment. Like, like lesbians don't dress well.

Speaker 31 They dress really well.

Speaker 106 Yeah, they do.

Speaker 27 Mine is Ellen DeGeneres.

Speaker 70 I don't think she dresses great.

Speaker 109 Well, maybe she doesn't dress exactly like maybe somebody that's.

Speaker 69 Stop looking at me.

Speaker 10 Stop looking at me.

Speaker 93 What are you doing right now?

Speaker 32 Listen,

Speaker 70 my stylus is like the same four pop-up ads I get on Instagram, and then I buy it, and I'm like, like, oh shit, I already have this shirt.

Speaker 109 I think every time I've ordered something on Instagram, it's never come. Yeah.

Speaker 52 Oh, yeah, I just

Speaker 73 a donation.

Speaker 70 I just look at like one flannel shirt in early October, and then the rest of the winter, I'm just buying flannel shirts.

Speaker 106 Are you a flannel guy?

Speaker 92 No, but it's the pop-ups.

Speaker 11 I just buy the pop-ups.

Speaker 109 Oh, that's a yellow one. Oh, that's a green one.

Speaker 69 Oh, shit, I don't have this one.

Speaker 60 It comes and it looks exactly like the other ones.

Speaker 31 I usually buy something in September, and then I spend the next four months just tracking it from China as it's making its way here. It's like on a boat somewhere crossing Taiwan.

Speaker 31 I'm like, I'm never getting that connection to it. You get it in two years?

Speaker 69 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 35 So, this season was obviously disappointing for you guys, but

Speaker 92 how is it like when

Speaker 70 you get into a season and you're playing great, but the team is losing, like, trying to figure out what's that like in the locker room when it's like, you know, the defense went through some struggles, started playing well at the end.

Speaker 75 Like, is it awkward?

Speaker 52 Is it hard?

Speaker 70 I don't really understand the dynamic and how it works.

Speaker 109 Yeah.

Speaker 109 I would say it's tough to describe because

Speaker 106 you're obviously,

Speaker 109 I mean, you're in it as a team. So everybody's down in the dumps in the locker room.
It's not like,

Speaker 109 oh, we're on the offense. We scored 30, but we lost.
Like, we're happy. Like, nobody's happy about that.

Speaker 109 And there were definitely games that the offense could have closed it out in which we didn't.

Speaker 109 But

Speaker 109 when you're you're playing,

Speaker 109 you know, like I said, I felt like I had my best year as a pro, and so I was happy about that. Week in and week out, it was pretty frustrating.
I've never had a year like this.

Speaker 109 So it was mentally taxing and challenging to continue to stay disciplined and consistent week in and week out, day in and day out.

Speaker 109 You know, at some point you just realize that this is your job and that's what you do.

Speaker 109 And if I'm I'm going to continue to play as good as I want to, then I'm going to have to keep doing these things daily to put myself in the best position to succeed.

Speaker 70 Yeah, it sounds like you guys are a lot more mature than us because we just finger point instantly, like literally, it's something.

Speaker 110 I mean, you walked into it a little bit with the QB skills competition we did last night.

Speaker 70 We just spent the last two hours just sitting in this room just finger pointing.

Speaker 94 Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 106 You can't do that in the pros.

Speaker 31 Well, Hank is really bad, and as a quarterback, like me and Big Cat, our salaries depend on a guy like the quarterback.

Speaker 31 If he's making us look bad, then it's like, what are we going to do? We're just going to, we're going to become divas.

Speaker 109 So you guys are receivers?

Speaker 31 Well, we could be. We're just divas.

Speaker 31 Yeah, without, we're like diva wide receivers, except we're not good at playing wide receivers.

Speaker 70 Like if you said, if you said to your huddle, you're like, hey, I got us, guys. Let's go on a drive.
And then you went three for 57.

Speaker 69 What do you think they would say?

Speaker 109 They'd probably lose a little trust in my abilities.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 70 Trust.

Speaker 104 You said something in Pro Bowl week.

Speaker 48 Your wrist is still a little funky.

Speaker 109 I mean, I wouldn't say funky, but whenever you have a ligament injury, your joint is going to take around two years to get all the mobility back and everything that you feel like you need.

Speaker 70 And you still had the best year as a pro. So, yeah, he is going for 7K.
This is going for 7K.

Speaker 31 This could be like Rookie of the Year situation.

Speaker 31 It healed. Have you ever seen that movie? The kid that breaks his arm, all of a sudden he can throw like 98 miles an hour? Oh, that would be great.

Speaker 31 Like, if you have a ligament injury, maybe it just made you a better quarterback.

Speaker 7 I hope so.

Speaker 31 Does it feel good right now?

Speaker 109 it feels good right now there were a couple times i fell on it during the year it didn't quite feel as good yeah i would say and kind of just depended on the day but we got into a good routine at the end of the year to feel as good as i could by sunday having a fully healthy offseason though that'll probably be nice for you yeah i haven't had a ton of those um

Speaker 109 i think that'll just help me level up even more because I'm not going to be focused on rehab and everything.

Speaker 109 I can just focus on quarterback-specific things, working out, getting my body the way that I want to for the year.

Speaker 109 So I'm excited about that. Yeah.

Speaker 70 Have you thought about maybe telling Coach Taylor? Like, I've been thinking about it a lot for the Bengals specifically.

Speaker 70 Like, a hypnotist comes in and convinces the whole locker room that week one is actually week four and you've already started 0-3.

Speaker 109 That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 38 Yeah, right? Because I feel like the first two weeks are the greatest starts in my career, I would say.

Speaker 109 So hopefully, we can figure out a way to change that. A hypnotist might not be a bad idea.

Speaker 60 Yeah, the urgency, because

Speaker 70 I have power ranking.

Speaker 70 I have a computer that does power rankings every week, and it never gave up on the Bengals because I was just like, well, Joe Burrow's there, and they're going to figure it out. And it was close.

Speaker 33 It was close.

Speaker 10 You guys came so close.

Speaker 109 Once we hit 4-8, that was tough to come back from.

Speaker 51 Yeah, the 4-8,

Speaker 23 every week was just like shit.

Speaker 109 Every week felt like a heartbreaker. Yeah.
You go back, I would get back to my house and be like, how the fuck did we lose that game?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 60 All right, so we need a hypnotist or something.

Speaker 31 What you could do is you could just play all your starters throughout the preseason and just lose those games.

Speaker 109 That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 31 Week one is literally week four for you.

Speaker 109 I'm pro playing in the preseason, I would say. Did you play?

Speaker 70 You didn't play in this last person.

Speaker 109 I played like seven snaps.

Speaker 78 Okay.

Speaker 70 You would have been 0 for 7 if you were Hank.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 31 What does that feel like going out for a preseason game? You're like, you're going to go on the field and you're going to take two snaps, hand the ball off twice, and then leave the field.

Speaker 109 Yeah, it's weird because you're not game planning the opposing team.

Speaker 109 Like you'll watch a couple snaps of their defense before the game, but you're going out there and it's like, oh, I wonder what they're going to play.

Speaker 109 Because you don't really know, especially if it's a team that you haven't played before or a coordinator that you haven't played before.

Speaker 109 So it's

Speaker 109 the offense is at a disadvantage in the preseason. So I always feel bad for...

Speaker 109 these young quarterbacks that go into the preseason and they play like shit because you're not going to play well in the preseason because your coaches aren't game planning their defense and you're just running out and running your training camp plays against a defense that those plays aren't built for.

Speaker 109 And so when guys, when people come out of the preseason and are like, this guy stinks, well, that's not exactly the case.

Speaker 31 We do it the other way sometimes where somebody will be really good in the preseason and we'll be like, that guy should start. Yeah.
Like Kyle Sloater.

Speaker 31 He was a preseason legend for a long time as a backup. I don't think he ever played a snap.
Could he run? Yeah, he could run a little bit.

Speaker 109 A lot of running quarterbacks excel in the preseason, I would say.

Speaker 31 Yeah, and you always think, like, going to the season, man, this guy should be getting snaps over Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 31 This guy's way better, Kevin Barron.

Speaker 70 You're running. I feel like you had a couple big runs this year.

Speaker 70 Whenever you get out in the open field, you're like, oh, fuck, I made a mistake.

Speaker 38 Yeah, I'm about to get

Speaker 34 the

Speaker 34 bills this year.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 109 I don't think I've ever really felt that way.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 109 I'm getting better at sliding and protecting myself. Yep.
And I'm getting more agile, so I'm making some more people miss. I'm getting a little faster.
And I'm going to continue to work on that.

Speaker 109 So I'm just going to feel better and better about it.

Speaker 106 You are getting faster.

Speaker 70 That's crazy.

Speaker 101 You could get faster. Yeah, you've got to get slower every day of my life.

Speaker 109 You just have to run fast.

Speaker 31 You've got a very long slide now, I've noticed. Yeah, I'm going to go.
You go like seven yards on a slide. I know.

Speaker 69 I haven't quite perfected it.

Speaker 91 Like Lamar will do some

Speaker 109 like weird stuff and then get down without getting hit. I don't have that in me, I don't think so I'm just gonna do the baseball slide I'd like to not go as far I would say, but I feel like my

Speaker 109 slide into

Speaker 109 knee into the ground pop-up it's good.

Speaker 31 It's cool. It is good.
Lamar likes to dive at people's knees when he goes down

Speaker 31 which is like a pretty effective way I think to avoid.

Speaker 109 Well because when he gets close to people everybody just breaks down because they're so worried about him making a miss. Right.

Speaker 109 So then he starts going like that and then everybody stops and then he just goes he gets everyone on their heels. Yeah, I don't get anybody to stop like that.

Speaker 69 Yeah, no.

Speaker 31 Do you ever do you ever like learn new moves for open field running? Definitely. Like you watch YouTube and you're like, okay, I could do this or I mean more so like I practice it walking around.

Speaker 109 Like I'll be walking through a hall or like in my house and I'll like try something like a spin. I'm working on a spin move right now.

Speaker 31 A Euro steppe that just Euro stepping random people on the street. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 60 Do you have a guys being dudes where I just cross people on the hands?

Speaker 83 Do you have any pets?

Speaker 109 I don't have any pets. I had pets when I was little though.

Speaker 109 I had a cat. I had two turtles.
I had two frogs. And I had a lizard.

Speaker 38 Whoa, it's kind of freaky.

Speaker 70 Borderline, kind of a weirdo kid.

Speaker 79 I know.

Speaker 70 If you had a snake, if you added one more snake, I would have been like, uh-oh.

Speaker 38 This isn't funny anymore.

Speaker 109 Yeah, I used to love going to the pet store and getting the crickets and feeding them to my lizard. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 106 Wait, what was your lizard's name?

Speaker 110 Lizzie.

Speaker 69 Okay, that's a good name.

Speaker 71 That's solid. Smart.

Speaker 31 I was going to say if you had a dog, you could just juke out your dog.

Speaker 69 Dogs are too much for me.

Speaker 109 I like being around dogs, but I couldn't live with a dog i don't think you think you just love it too much i think they're just too in your face they do like to be in your face like that's true just do your own thing for a little bit

Speaker 70 you're a cat yeah yeah yeah yeah if if you were a dog or a cat i would say joe burrow cat yeah for sure um i know you're gonna be asked this a lot because obviously t higgins is is a free agent and uh they're gonna be like hey joe will you take a restructure of your deal.

Speaker 70 I'm not going to ask if you're going to restructure your deal. I'm going to actually ask, what does that mean, restructuring a deal? Can you explain it to us like we're five?

Speaker 109 Yeah, so you could do a couple different things. You could

Speaker 109 convert some of the money to a signing bonus, which will lower the cap hit.

Speaker 109 You can push some of the money to the back end of the contract. And then when you get to the, that lowers the cap hit.

Speaker 109 And then when you get to the back end of the contract, you can restructure it and convert it to a signing bonus. Okay.

Speaker 109 And then you can also just take less money.

Speaker 70 And which one were you going to do?

Speaker 10 We'll see. Okay.

Speaker 31 I don't like what Big Cat's doing, Joe. I think that you deserve every penny that you've signed for.
You don't have to restructure anything. Don't feel like, oh, I have to keep T around.

Speaker 31 It's not your responsibility. That's on the team.

Speaker 31 I think T is entitled to make his money, but you're entitled to make your money too, Joe. Don't listen to this guy.
Restructuring.

Speaker 37 This guy's bigger.

Speaker 51 You don't take any less money, right?

Speaker 2 You just get...

Speaker 69 You could. Okay.
You could, but

Speaker 109 most of the guys just convert it to

Speaker 23 signing bonus.

Speaker 60 Is that you would do that?

Speaker 109 I would do that. Okay.
okay.

Speaker 31 I don't like what he's doing. He's putting pressure on you.
You should feel entitled to the money that you've earned.

Speaker 70 It is a weird situation, though, that you're in because I think that's just part of what happens with quarterbacks where it's like there's a little more pressure on them where they have the biggest deal.

Speaker 70 So,

Speaker 70 if they want to get flexibility, a lot of times it comes down to the quarterback to have to be the guy who has to step up and do that.

Speaker 34 Yeah, contract.

Speaker 109 At the same time, though,

Speaker 71 this was the last year

Speaker 109 that all the COVID

Speaker 109 cap money restrictions across the league were implemented. So, the next like three or four years, I think the cap's gonna just cap's going up.

Speaker 70 The cap's going up. Okay, we might just keep saying cap's going up.
Cap's going up.

Speaker 110 T.

Speaker 109 Higgins went up to 8% last year. It'll probably be similar.
You've lost,

Speaker 70 you've definitely crunched. You've definitely been laying in bed late at night, just looking at a spreadsheet being like, Okay, all right, cap's going up.

Speaker 31 You understand the cap. I mean, not really, kind of, because we don't think that it exists way more than we do.

Speaker 109 Well, definitely, some teams seem to make it feel that way.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Yeah, I mean, the Saints have just pretended it doesn't exist for a while.

Speaker 109 And the Eagles are paying everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 109 Yeah. So that seems like the way, whatever they're doing.

Speaker 31 I feel like adjusting the salary cap is like the final boss of how many different things can we change because of COVID. Yeah.
It's like COVID happened.

Speaker 31 Okay, well, we're going to have to redo the NFL salary cap.

Speaker 31 We need to make some changes in it. Well, it's weird.

Speaker 109 In baseball, you have no, I don't know what the, but some teams are paying like nothing and some teams are paying like $500 million

Speaker 70 I don't think that's the way to do it in the Shohei contract that's like $700 million But he just gets $2 million and

Speaker 109 we'll pay you in like 50 years Which is insane.

Speaker 70 I don't understand any of that. Yeah.

Speaker 69 What was the deal? What was the deal with

Speaker 91 that

Speaker 109 he got into some controversy, didn't he?

Speaker 31 Yeah, his translator epe might have had a little gambling problem.

Speaker 109 I figured you guys would know the ins and outs of that.

Speaker 31 Yeah, maybe perhaps.

Speaker 74 Yeah, it was a situation.

Speaker 31 It's good to have a translator because that person is the ultimate fall guy.

Speaker 69 I didn't even understand what you guys were saying.

Speaker 109 I can't even answer your questions right now.

Speaker 52 What is this?

Speaker 93 We were saying, we were joking.

Speaker 70 At the time, it would be so funny if it all happened and showed it was like Kaiser Soze and just had a New Jersey accent and just started talking in perfect English.

Speaker 38 It's like, I've been playing all you fuckers.

Speaker 31 You should get a translator. That would be awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 69 Yeah, that would be cool.

Speaker 31 Yeah, that way that person does all your interviews. You just sit next to him checking draft kings.
I can put in a parlay here. Okay, good, good, good.

Speaker 31 Yeah, so this has been a fun year for you. In other ways, maybe not so much, but this offseason, what are you doing to

Speaker 31 improve your game? You're getting faster, I know that, but like, is there anything that you work on in the offseason and you say, I'm going to focus on this?

Speaker 109 I think I'm at the point in my career where I'm not really, there's not really anything that I'm like, okay, this needs to get better.

Speaker 7 This is

Speaker 109 like, I feel like I'm pretty well-rounded and everything is pretty dang good.

Speaker 109 But when everything's pretty dang good or great, you can always continue to improve those things and get better at them. So I'm kind of just

Speaker 109 always improving a little bit of everything. Strength, speed, mechanics, movement, efficiency, you know, all those things.

Speaker 31 I like that. Just do exactly what you've been doing, but do it harder.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 109 Or, you know, when I noticed that as you get older, you don't quite, you know, you put the same time in the offseason, but when you get to the season, you you don't have to quite grind as much because you've seen so much football now, and you've played most of these defensive coordinators before, and they're all

Speaker 109 doing the same stuff. You know, there's little game plan things here and there, but, you know, you've you've seen most of the defenses.

Speaker 31 What's your hair plan for next year?

Speaker 31 That's a good question. I have a suggestion.

Speaker 109 I don't know what I'm gonna do yet. I don't really know what I'm gonna do until like a couple days before I do it.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I would say.

Speaker 109 I kind of want to grow it out a little bit, but we'll see.

Speaker 31 What about a mullet?

Speaker 109 I've thought about the mullet.

Speaker 31 You should do a mullet.

Speaker 109 You know, I thought about the mullet when I was in college, because I grew my hair out in the offseasons

Speaker 7 in college.

Speaker 109 So I was going to go mullet

Speaker 109 into my last year at LSU. That would have been a fun year to have a mullet, but...

Speaker 109 You just have to grow it out so much,

Speaker 109 and then

Speaker 96 I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I mean, your hair seems to grow fast, though, because when you shave it, it's like four weeks later, it's like, oh, yeah. Remember when Joe shaved his head a month ago, now he's got normal hair?

Speaker 31 Yeah, he grows it. The slim shady look was interesting.
I thought that that was intentionally done for preseason, and that you would dye it back once the regular season started.

Speaker 109 I did it because I wanted frosted tips, but I've never seen frosted tips look good if you just go to the salon and get them. Yeah, so I just went

Speaker 109 brute force, shaved it, dyed it, and then let it grow out.

Speaker 38 So then I had the frost.

Speaker 85 All right.

Speaker 70 So I know you got a run because you got a bunch of stuff going on today, but I got one last question. Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase.

Speaker 70 Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com, promo code take. So I know you're doing a bunch of interviews today.
I also know you're not really big on social media.

Speaker 70 So I just wanted to give you, I'm just giving you something that I saw because I was literally name-searching Joe Burrow before you came on to see if there's anything that was going on in the last two days.

Speaker 70 This is just from a random person. It's a clip of you at the Pro Bowl.
It says, I need him in ways that would set feminism back 100 years.

Speaker 70 I think it's a woman who thinks you're very attractive.

Speaker 38 So just take that with you.

Speaker 13 Just take that with you.

Speaker 96 That's just like, oh, well, you know, pump up the ego.

Speaker 109 Nice little confidence.

Speaker 72 I need him in ways that would set feminism back 100 years.

Speaker 31 I saw another one from a similar account that said, God made men and then sent us Joe Burrow as an apology.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Wait.

Speaker 96 Oh, because, okay.

Speaker 49 Oh, okay, because all men saw men you're you.

Speaker 38 Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 72 Just eat those with you.

Speaker 10 Thank you for everything that you've done for men, Joe.

Speaker 109 Those didn't sound like questions, guys.

Speaker 38 Yeah, no, they weren't. That wasn't.

Speaker 72 It was a robot statement.

Speaker 37 All right. Well, great seeing you, Joe.

Speaker 2 Thanks so much for that. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 38 Thank you.

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Speaker 50 Okay, we're going to do some guys on chicks real quick, and then we're going to finish off with Firefest because this is the end of the week for us.

Speaker 20 We have Dungeon and Dragons coming Friday for the people.

Speaker 48 Hank, guys on chicks.

Speaker 71 Guys on chicks, I meant to bring it up in Hot See Cool Throne, but I forgot. Montoya.

Speaker 80 Montoya. Oh, he's going through hell.

Speaker 17 He went through it again.

Speaker 40 Dude,

Speaker 40 I said last night. It's a show.

Speaker 38 I don't even know how to win it.

Speaker 71 It's like the craziest show of all time. It's just a fuck show.

Speaker 66 Well, it's Temptation Island,

Speaker 12 Spanish version.

Speaker 41 And Montoya, for anyone who hasn't followed,

Speaker 3 he has the worst ROI of all time on a lap dance because he got a lap dance.

Speaker 20 And then his girlfriend on the other island decided to just spend the next week fucking this random guy, getting the bongos played on her ass.

Speaker 76 And Montoya has to watch all of this happen.

Speaker 67 And he's just, I mean, credit to Montoya, he is, he's great on camera.

Speaker 34 He just

Speaker 71 basically imagine if you're long as this relationship going on, if you're like, it's Montoya's basically,

Speaker 32 if you were watching the World Cup and a player just lost in a terrible, terrible way, and you know how soccer players are usually like very animated, that's Montoya every episode watching his girlfriend get smoked.

Speaker 31 This guy absolutely hates it when his girlfriend cheats on him yeah and just like really watching her go to town the one that i saw today they were under the covers and they include i think they might have like added in sound effects yeah because that smack sound she was getting it in to the wall

Speaker 71 hey guys i need your help picking out a valentine's day gift for my fiancé In the past, I've made slash gotten my fiancé sentimental things, but I don't think guys really like that stuff.

Speaker 71 And I don't expect him to tell me that if he really doesn't. If I were you all,

Speaker 71 If it were you all what are some things you would all actually enjoy getting that aren't basic thanks and go dukes cash go dukes My answer is always cash.

Speaker 71 I think a good one for girls is just like whatever a sports team are find like a retro shirt or hat or something okay counterpoint not basic, but it's a little it's it's thoughtful counterpoint cash

Speaker 31 You can buy whatever you want with cash, even if you have a joint bank account.

Speaker 3 No one has ever gotten the gift of cash and been like, ew, no.

Speaker 71 Have you ever been like that with a gift card, though?

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 55 Gift card boxes you in. Cash is limitless.

Speaker 31 The problem with gift card is you never spend the full amount. Yeah.
Maybe get them some jailstool.

Speaker 31 Or you have to make yourself spend way more money because you're using the gift card to get a discount on it.

Speaker 82 Also could get them some jailstool.

Speaker 31 No, don't do that.

Speaker 65 Bad idea.

Speaker 31 I would, let's see, a good gift for your fiancé. Cash.

Speaker 31 I don't know if cash is really the way to go.

Speaker 71 like hank is always i think on the if you share the personal account it's like what are you gonna do with cash it's still awesome to get cash well i guess fiancé maybe they did but when does that happen yeah it's what when does the joint account like yeah fiancé marriage that some people don't even have folks

Speaker 47 cash

Speaker 31 it's still awesome to get cash even if you have a joint account or like an activity go on a trip together buying concert tickets cash sports tickets cash cash is king golf balls uh why do females typically not like guys playing video games?

Speaker 71 Seems there could be much worse activities out there. It's a way guys can also hang out without going anywhere.
All in all, not one guy complains when a girl goes out with her friends.

Speaker 71 We just hop on the game. What is the game for girls and how do we get them excited about it like guys do for games and get treated the same when it's flipped?

Speaker 31 Wait, so she's saying

Speaker 31 why do girls care so much when guys play video games?

Speaker 71 Yeah, she's asking why his girlfriend doesn't like video games.

Speaker 31 Because you're paying attention to something very close. You're paying attention to it way, way more closely than you pay attention to her.

Speaker 122 Also, video games by nature, we've all been trapped in one, you know, been obsessed with one.

Speaker 12 When you remove yourself from it, you do realize you did nothing.

Speaker 2 So I think they're seeing it from that angle, where they're looking at it and being like, you just spent six hours.

Speaker 84 And in your head, when you're in it, like, yeah, I'm squatting up with the boys.

Speaker 17 I got to, you know, we're going on missions.

Speaker 13 This is fun, or I'm finishing my dynasty.

Speaker 122 Like, I'm accomplishing something.

Speaker 13 From the outside, they're like, you've done nothing.

Speaker 71 I also think girls, their kind of video games are shows, but those are more time. Like, they watch for an hour.
They watch The Bachelor. Like, they'll watch something for an hour or two.

Speaker 71 Video games, if you really like playing video games, you could play forever.

Speaker 78 Ever. Yeah, forever.

Speaker 71 And that's where it's like, like, I'm getting off in a minute, but if you're playing, like, you know, a battle royale, like, what feels like a minute is actually 40.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I do think they're like, then you look up, you're like, oh, shit.

Speaker 31 I think girls,

Speaker 31 they care when they see you so engaged in the video game and you, like, look forward to it, and you, you know everything about the video video game.

Speaker 31 You pay super close attention, and then they're just like, I wish that when I talked to you, you would pay attention to me in that same way that you do your video games.

Speaker 42 Why don't you talk to me like you talk to your boys?

Speaker 62 Yeah, like, suck my dick, fuck you. Yeah, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 31 Uh, what they should do,

Speaker 83 what they should do is

Speaker 31 they should make a boyfriend simulator game. That'd be good.
If they made a good one,

Speaker 31 maybe get her into video games.

Speaker 77 Probably not, though. Yeah,

Speaker 83 try. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 82 There's something about it. We just were wired a certain way that when we start a game, just got to finish it.

Speaker 122 Just got to finish it.

Speaker 71 Or yeah, you got to get a win.

Speaker 71 And that is.

Speaker 2 And the problem is, I don't know, you guys might be different, but like my relationship with video games has always been if I have a game, I'm obsessed, obsessed with it for like a two to three week stretch, and that's all I think about.

Speaker 2 And I could see how that would be annoying on the outside, where it's like you're at dinner having a conversation, and all you're thinking about, like, is

Speaker 12 I got to get a four-star linebacker for my team.

Speaker 71 I was full-on addicted to Call of Duty for like a solid two years.

Speaker 20 Oh yeah,

Speaker 20 I've been in that for sure.

Speaker 71 Like COVID, I think the move, like once I moved and I think it just, it was part of my routine and it's not really anymore. But looking back, like

Speaker 71 it was all I thought about. And I was trying to play for like, sometimes I just play for 12 hours a day.

Speaker 93 That's a lot.

Speaker 34 Now it's golf.

Speaker 71 Yeah, golf. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 You remember when you were addicted to golf video games?

Speaker 71 I still, PJ 2K is coming out. I'm excited for that.
Yeah. That game's fun as fuck.

Speaker 96 Yeah, it's a great combo.

Speaker 71 Golf, and then when there's dark, just play golf.

Speaker 71 Last one. Hey, part of my take.
Great pod, big fan. I'm a nurse, and nearly all my coworkers are chicks.

Speaker 69 What?

Speaker 96 Nurses are hot.

Speaker 30 It's a dude.

Speaker 71 And I had a few over for the second time. Oh, this is a dude.

Speaker 31 I thought this guy's on chicks. And he's a nurse.

Speaker 71 I got drunk and called Kelsey a pussy bitch after his second drop in the first half.

Speaker 98 Maybe a dude.

Speaker 71 A few chicks didn't like that. They are Kelsey fans that were offended by the verbiage.
Is this something I have to address with my coworkers?

Speaker 71 I'm just used to watching ball with the boys, so I was rowdy. No, I feel like nurses, like

Speaker 31 yeah, listen, one thing I know about nurses is when they're not on the clock, they fucking party.

Speaker 52 Yeah, they're hot.

Speaker 71 It's not like corporate.

Speaker 1 This is a Swifty thing, too.

Speaker 35 That's why they're upset.

Speaker 31 Yeah, and I think nurses and doctors have, what, like a five times greater likelihood to smoke cigarettes. Yeah.
Like they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 Also, if we're being honest, Kelsey was kind of playing like a PAB.

Speaker 78 For sure.

Speaker 58 Like, that's just a fact.

Speaker 75 The Chiefs didn't play well, right, Max?

Speaker 65 Yeah, little boy ass play. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 35 Yeah, try that out next time.

Speaker 46 Little boy ass.

Speaker 26 Did you say that at all during the Super Bowl?

Speaker 87 No, but the original tweet was about

Speaker 87 Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 65 Little boy ass play.

Speaker 69 Little boy ass play.

Speaker 4 Okay, let's do Fire Fest.

Speaker 5 I can't believe we tweeted that out.

Speaker 34 So good. So good.

Speaker 13 Okay, Firefest time, because we are going on vacation.

Speaker 35 So Friday, we have our Dungeons and Dragons episode.

Speaker 25 Monday, we will have about 20 minutes of us on Zoom catching up on the weekend, and then an NBA preview with Ryan Rossillo.

Speaker 13 Then we will all be back together

Speaker 29 for Wednesday's show.

Speaker 16 So we're not missing any shows.

Speaker 47 We'll just have a little bit of a different schedule for the next few episodes.

Speaker 55 So Firefest, Hank.

Speaker 71 Kind of impossible to have a Fire Fest right before a vacation.

Speaker 38 Yeah, you're feeling it right now.

Speaker 71 Well, my sleep schedule is cooked.

Speaker 38 Cooked.

Speaker 71 I have not

Speaker 71 come back from New Orleans. Like, I

Speaker 71 was up yesterday at 5 a.m., couldn't fall back asleep.

Speaker 71 Was up today at 4 a.m.

Speaker 71 Couldn't fall back asleep.

Speaker 115 Sounds like you're thinking about Josh Allen being an MVP.

Speaker 71 Got up. Yeah, got up and then fell asleep at like 7 on my couch.
Almost like woke up at, you know, I'm all over the place, sleep schedule-wise.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 101 I feel bad for you.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it's vacation.

Speaker 31 I've got on vacation. How many rounds?

Speaker 71 Well, I'm going a day early now because there's going to be snow in Chicago, so that I'm adding an extra one to the next day.

Speaker 38 That's to go.

Speaker 101 Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 31 You got to go a day early.

Speaker 69 I do. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 31 Are you planning golf?

Speaker 31 Like when you get into town, did you add an extra round? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 72 Okay, all right, nice.

Speaker 31 But it's because of the snow. It's the snow.

Speaker 71 Well, yeah, I was like, well, I should go Tuesday, hit up our friend Isner, and was like, hey, you around? He's like, yep, come play golf. I was like, fine.
You know what?

Speaker 52 You got to, because of the snow.

Speaker 71 So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Friday, Saturday, something.

Speaker 83 Wait, what? Say it again?

Speaker 71 36 Friday.

Speaker 45 Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 115 So six rounds?

Speaker 53 Yeah. Wow.
Nice.

Speaker 89 That's too much golf.

Speaker 73 At some point, you got to be like,

Speaker 85 this is too much.

Speaker 71 Well, the one tomorrow is like, I don't have any choice.

Speaker 53 Right. It's snow.

Speaker 73 But like, come Sunday, are you still going to wake up like

Speaker 13 itching? I am itching to get another round.

Speaker 71 I would say after, like, the second round Friday, I'll probably be hungover and my best friend.

Speaker 34 It sounds like torture.

Speaker 71 And I'll be like, I'm cooked.

Speaker 52 I'll fight through.

Speaker 71 You know what?

Speaker 69 For the people, I will fight through.

Speaker 31 I think what Max is asking is, like, aren't you going to get bored of playing golf at some point this week?

Speaker 71 No, because we've been, I miss it so much.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 44 What if you suck?

Speaker 71 Oh, I'll definitely suck.

Speaker 115 That's a shame.

Speaker 38 I'll report back. Okay.

Speaker 96 Good.

Speaker 96 Sure.

Speaker 38 People are dying to know.

Speaker 38 All right.

Speaker 28 PFT.

Speaker 31 Hank did ask me the other day. He's like, hey, are you going to play golf on your vacation? And I was like, I don't think so.
He's like, can I borrow your bag, your travel bag?

Speaker 31 So I have to run home at lunch and get the travel bag for Hank so that he can get his golf in tomorrow.

Speaker 34 It's Bros helping Bros. Yeah.

Speaker 71 What? It's huge. And you make me feel bad for asking you for a favor.

Speaker 31 No, I'm just stating facts. He's just stating the facts.

Speaker 66 You love facts.

Speaker 38 Yeah. True.

Speaker 31 I'm trying to get you fired up.

Speaker 69 Well, we can't get him fired up.

Speaker 110 We can help him, but we can never get him fired up.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 84 We can never light that fire in Hank.

Speaker 31 He's probably pumped to see Isner. He's like, finally, a guy with the energy here.

Speaker 34 Fire me up. Yeah, he'll tase you.

Speaker 31 Literally fire you up.

Speaker 31 Will you get tased this weekend, Hank?

Speaker 13 Listen, it's okay.

Speaker 33 We're not Missoula and Gruden.

Speaker 46 We never will.

Speaker 38 You're not.

Speaker 71 And that's why I kind of feel bad, but also you guys know you're not.

Speaker 10 Sam.

Speaker 71 No one is.

Speaker 93 Okay.

Speaker 99 PFT.

Speaker 71 Different motivation tactics.

Speaker 31 My fire fest, somewhat vacation-related. Really tough to have a fire fest when you're going on a vacation.
It's nice to get somewhere warm. Really good.

Speaker 31 I guess the only fire fest I would would have would be that I really wanted to play golf this weekend, and I don't have my travel bag.

Speaker 31 And I mean, what's better than playing golf on an island on vacation? It's like all I've looked forward to doing for the last three months. But Hank needs my bag, so I'm going to give Hank my bag.

Speaker 46 I can get another bag.

Speaker 71 I have a second option. Like, he's got a bag.

Speaker 63 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 37 No, you can have my bag.

Speaker 31 I can tell it meant a lot to you. My Real Fire Fest is going on vacation this week, and I did get my chest waxed last week down in New Orleans.

Speaker 38 Oh, yeah, that did happen.

Speaker 31 It did happen.

Speaker 31 So I'm going to be hairless in a swimsuit on the beach, beach and whatever lotion they put on really did not agree with with my chest and i got a little little rash going on my chest right now

Speaker 31 i'm not looking forward to being shirtless this weekend yeah the the the i i like completely memory hold the fact because that happened that feels like it happened 10 years ago yeah it's gotten a lot better since the day after but uh it's my chest is not at its best right now how is time working out in your brain right now max can't be going well no i'm cooked

Speaker 30 My whole body is just done.

Speaker 50 All right, my Firefest.

Speaker 24 I actually, the body being done, I knew this was going to happen, but like clockwork, we turned 40, and now I'm just starting to get random injuries.

Speaker 41 I just got like a tennis elbow in my left arm, which I don't have.

Speaker 63 I don't play tennis or golf.

Speaker 18 And I'm a righty.

Speaker 82 And then my right arm, I've had a broken pinky for three months and Super Bowl Week just demolished me because I was shaking hands.

Speaker 51 And every time I was like, fuck, this hurts.

Speaker 76 But

Speaker 77 I think I'm going to get in shape, and I have an announcement for you guys. You ready for this? Yeah.

Speaker 34 I think I'm going to dunk.

Speaker 31 No way. Yeah.

Speaker 31 I'm going to dunk. There's no way.
I think I'm going to dunk. Have you ever dunked before?

Speaker 16 I've never dunked, but I think I'm going to train and dunk.

Speaker 37 How tall are you?

Speaker 65 6'3. You could do it.

Speaker 34 I think you could do it too. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 31 Big cat could do it.

Speaker 85 I have a ton of faith. I think I'm going to dunk.

Speaker 31 I think I'm going to dunk.

Speaker 69 I hope you, I mean,

Speaker 71 I hope you could too.

Speaker 71 You would have to lose a lot of weight.

Speaker 72 Okay, all right.

Speaker 10 But that's fine.

Speaker 31 It's like you've really, you're walking around has really trained your leg muscles. Yeah.

Speaker 38 So you're going to have a strong legs.

Speaker 13 I don't know when I'm going to dunk.

Speaker 18 I'm not going to put a time on it or a bet on it, but I think I'm just going to dunk.

Speaker 26 Good.

Speaker 81 Good luck. Thank you.

Speaker 83 You can definitely do it.

Speaker 33 You sound like you're supportive, Hank.

Speaker 71 No, I mean, I know what you're doing. I would be happy if you did.

Speaker 106 You're trying to dunk.

Speaker 71 I know you're not going. You don't.
I wouldn't put a time on on,

Speaker 38 but. Wow.

Speaker 71 I've been there. I've been where you are.
I understand where you are. You tried to dunk?

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 38 I'm still going to dunk.

Speaker 42 I don't even remember it because you were so far away. Big cat could do it.

Speaker 65 No, I was close.

Speaker 34 You were not close.

Speaker 38 I was close. You were not close.

Speaker 110 I was close. You were not close.

Speaker 31 You touched the rim.

Speaker 38 You were not close to dunking. I was close.
You were not.

Speaker 53 I think if you gave Big Cat a year.

Speaker 1 In what world were you close to dunking?

Speaker 71 I jumped 10 feet, four inches. I needed to get 10-6.

Speaker 31 If you gave Big Cat a year, he could do it. We'll see.

Speaker 18 I'm not not going to put any pressure on myself.

Speaker 115 I'm just going to try.

Speaker 71 You know, I also am going to be.

Speaker 31 Big cat, you should have John Gruden coach you and train you because he'll get you fired up. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 53 That's a fact. All right.

Speaker 7 I'm going to try to dunk.

Speaker 31 Do we have

Speaker 31 any other hobbies that we're deciding to pick up this offseason? Dunking. Dunking? Hank? Any changes you're going to make to your life?

Speaker 31 Post-football?

Speaker 85 I'm currently the fattest I've ever been, so I'm going to work on that.

Speaker 11 Get fatter?

Speaker 31 Yeah, but you're a champion when you're fat.

Speaker 88 Yeah, no, I gotta.

Speaker 53 That's

Speaker 87 that's it.

Speaker 53 Gotta be fat.

Speaker 71 You can't really think about changing your ways before vacation, but in a week from now, I'll fitness vacation.

Speaker 38 Fitness vacation. Fitness vacation.
Yeah.

Speaker 115 What do you got, PFT? You do something?

Speaker 11 You want to dunk with me?

Speaker 31 I could try to dunk. I'm focused right now on long drive because I got a bet coming up

Speaker 31 that I've been training on already. Yeah.
I don't know if everyone here has been training on it. So I'm just going to try to get my drive

Speaker 31 over 300 yards if I can.

Speaker 45 I'm getting more tattoos i am too i'm low-key addicted to getting tattoos i am as well you also i'm gonna get at least two or three more i'm just gonna say fuck it they're not gonna be crazy big or anything i'm just i don't know we're just gonna do our midlife crisis with tattoos yeah speech which is like kind of badass by us where it's like we just became a tattoo podcast out of nowhere

Speaker 34 I feel like I just see like Chris Long and I'm like, that's what a real podcast host looks like.

Speaker 31 Yeah. I might get a teardrop tattoo.
How sick would that be? Well, yeah,

Speaker 14 I'm going to get another one as well.

Speaker 69 So we'll, we'll, maybe we link up, get them together.

Speaker 66 We would get matching ones.

Speaker 69 I like that. That would be cool.

Speaker 31 I'm going to get the flight simulator going in the office.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 107 A lot of stuff. I'm excited for that.
I want to get on that flight simulator.

Speaker 31 A lot of stuff going on. Yeah.

Speaker 64 Okay.

Speaker 14 Numbers and get ready for Dungeons and Dragons on Friday.

Speaker 31 Also, prostate exam.

Speaker 1 Do we have to do that?

Speaker 31 I think so. I thought that was 45.

Speaker 31 Might as well get it early. Shut up, memes.

Speaker 14 Memes wants us to die.

Speaker 31 No, but prostate. You should be rooting for us not to get a prostate exam.
40. You need one.

Speaker 34 You need it checked.

Speaker 108 I have to get one early because prostate cancer runs in my family.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 34 Three.

Speaker 106 Five. We could all go at the same time.

Speaker 96 Okay. We should do that.

Speaker 87 99 pod.

Speaker 31 Have an AWL as 20.

Speaker 65 As a doctor.

Speaker 78 21.

Speaker 31 Give us butthole reviews.

Speaker 106 Five.

Speaker 34 ninety-four

Speaker 99 ninety-four

Speaker 31 Love you guys.