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On today's Pardon My Take, we have two awesome interviews. We got Lane Johnson.
For who? For the people. Lane Johnson, who's going to be playing in the Super Bowl on Sunday.
We went and visited with him. Friend of the program.
Friend of the program. Future Hall of Famer.
Also special in that Lane Johnson interview, Max's speech from Monday night from our dinner. Then we have James Winston, one of our favorites, who also stopped by.
Great interview with him. We are going to talk a little more Super Bowl week, hot seat, cool throne, FAQs.
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Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to play $ dollars get fifty nine dollars in pick six credits only on draft kings pick six the crown is yours today is wednesday february 5th and it's max week max week max week episode two to the max max week episode two so we're here in nola we had the media night on monday night and what a night it was uh yeah really the only thing that came of note from it i think was uh there was a couple troll questions who would do that who would do a troll question disgusting to uh travis kelsey and patrick mahomes the kelsey one i think he was actually pissed did you see it well i saw a couple questions there was one reporter that that asked him back-to-back Taylor Swift questions.

He was like, back-to-back? That's nuts. That's crazy.
Someone said to him, what do you love more, Taylor Swift or Phantom 15-yard roughing the passer penalties? And he just was not happy about that. That's a good question.
And then someone asked Patrick Holmes who his favorite ref was. That's also good.
Yeah. And he said he's going to check and find out with the guysfl released i think at the refs the nfl ref association i'm pretty sure they have like a union um they released a statement saying they they take an enormous amount of umbrage at all the accusations that they've been favoring the chiefs yes roger goodell said it as well he's like it's crazy these conspiracy theories are nuts um also we found out from roger goodell that we might get a flag football league soon yeah so he said they're they're working on it and then florio reported that they're not just working on it it's like happening it's already a league where they hit harder yeah it blitzed the league yeah what you should have said there hank is flag football league we already have that it's called the nfl yeah yeah but i listen i i'm not i i've always they're gonna pick out you don't realize that they're gonna event like this is a long game yeah it's true this is what they're gonna do what about flag football they're gonna be like well here's all i'll say is that if they do it if they do it correctly it would be like a perfect like i want to say may like just do like a three-day tournament with all the players i would watch that for flag football yeah yeah i'd watch that if it was nfl players playing i would watch that i like where hank's head's at though maybe instead of a league where they hit harder a league where everyone has weapons like you actually have a baseball bat as a linebacker they are imagine if they do actual flag football league and and they figure out a way to do a roughing the passer from Holmes because they took his flag too hard.
Yeah. It's Max Week.
Max Week. It's Max Week.
Birth Week. My body is probably two-thirds gumbo.
Love that. Just swollen.
We're feeling good. Yeah.
We're sitting in New Orleans right now. What could be better than this? The air was thick today.
Just could drink the air. Feels good.
Delicious air. Max and Hank, you guys were out on Bourbon Street last night.
How was that? Fun. Hey, grenades.
Love this place. You just locked in.
Yeah, I'm trying to win a Super Bowl. That's all I'm thinking about.
So locked in. He's basically doing the Marshawn for us now.
Yeah, I'm just here to win a Super Bowl. No, I said I had fun fun on bourbon street but it's super bowl um other big story from goodell's press conferences we are we have done it boys we did it congratulations racism no more end racism in the end zone it only took four years yep that's what's crazy it's like it should accomplish how long since the end of the Civil War.
What was that? 18, when that 1865, 1865 until 2021,

we didn't have end racism painted in end zones.

And then 2021, we decided, let's do something.

Yeah.

Let's fix this.

And we fucking painted that shit in end zones.

And we did it. And we put it on the backs of helmets.

And now, racism's dead.

Done.

See ya, racism. Now, I think it's going going to say it takes all of us.
To do what? Anything. Okay.
To continue to not be racist. To continue to ignore all the freak events that are happening that Hank is not ignoring.
Yeah. Takes all of us.
One of them says like. You're the one sending them to me now.
That's all you do all day. I mean, I see it.
Yeah, exactly. Choose love.
Is that another one? Choose love is also gone. Choose love is gone? We're choosing hate.
Okay. I mean, but what about calling a timeout to hate? We're calling timeout to hate now.
Well, when you call a timeout to hate, you're basically timing out and then being like, let's hate. Yeah, so that you can get better at hating when you get back.
Yeah, timeout to hate. That's what Hank does.
Yeah, timeout to hate would be great if they did that actually in the game where the announcers would just be like, fuck everything. This is bullshit.
All right, time back in. All right, and we're back, and it's 14-13.
Great game being played. My guys are a little bit winded.
We need to call a timeout. They're going to go out there, and they're going to be really fucking nasty.
The big news, though, the NFL news, is Miles Garrett uh requested a trade so uh cleveland browns fans sucks for them they tried to do a protest uh two people showed up at the stadium which i actually say kudos cleveland browns fans because you protesting a guy asking to be traded in the middle of february like good job cleveland browns fan you You're not going to just be like, oh. Because you know what would happen.
If 1,000 people show up, then it becomes like a viral meme of, look how stupid Browns fans are. So I defend Browns fans in this as like, don't show up to that.
It sucks. I feel bad for Browns fans, but also Miles Garrett.
He does probably have a few good years left, and he wants to win a Super Bowl. I would say he's probably in his prime right now he's 29 he's still really fucking good i saw someone did a stat of like aaron donald's uh i can't remember who else was on it uh khalil mac and it was like after 20 29 30 like you might get like one or two really good years but they will tail off.
But the crazy, he had, what, 14 sacks this year?

Yeah.

And he had it on a team that stunk offensively?

No, he's still very, very good.

So it's not like he was on the field in a lot of late-game pass rush situations.

Yeah.

He's still got 14 sacks.

I think he's in his prime solidly right now.

Who's he going to go to?

I think he might be – that boy might be a commie.

Yeah?

I think so.

I think so.

You don't want that, Max.

Oh, we're talking about next year?

Yeah, talking about next year.

Got it. What are you talking about?

I'm still playing this year.

Yeah, but a couple minutes ago you were saying that he might be a bird.

Well, I mean, that's what people are saying, but I'm worried about this year.

I'll let you worry about next year.

Where do you think Myles Garrett's going to end up?

Probably Eagle.

That was way easier than I thought it would be.

Yeah, I think it would make sense for the guy.

It would make sense for the commanders.

It would make sense for the Bills.

It's Bills, Commanders, Packers, Eagles.

I've seen the Bears around.

I don't want the Bears to trade for him.

Not that he's not good, but the Bears have too many holes.

But it feels like a team more like Packers, eagles commanders bills patriots you guys have a lot of holes too yeah he can be a big big fill for those he keep that man can fill the hole he can i've seen him in the sweatpants he can fill hole and also cooper cup is getting traded which that was kind of crazy that he just i feel like they probably weren't happy that he announced that well no it was uh the team decided to trade him yeah yeah and so announced it and so he was like they've decided to move on from me right i'm letting you guys know it's not my it's not my call

it's your call yeah so yeah i was looking at his numbers too um he obviously had that great 2021

season one of the best seasons of any wide receiver of all time since then hasn't really

been a top tier wide receiver and he's i think 20 million dollars or something yeah so i don't know i don't know how that's gonna work out i mean i think he's still pretty good commie he could be a commie yeah fuck it spread the love around spread the wealth around what hank maybe patriot maybe patriot yeah well belichick's not the coach anymore. He would get Cooper Cup in a second.
Yeah. I do feel bad for Browns fans, though, because Miles Garrett, you – I mean, you went to the playoffs a couple times, but you wasted his prime.
It sucks. Or just once.
They go once? Yeah, just once. It sucks if you're a Browns fan because it does tie into the Deshaun Watson trade.
Yep. Everything they gave up for that guy, and it was as bad a move as you could ever make.
And it's also, I don't know, the cap makes no sense to me. It never will, but they're way over the cap, and if they trade him, I think he still carries an insane cap hit.
Yeah. I don't know what the Browns do.
Ask Mason Rudolph about that. Yeah.
I don't know how that works out, but I feel like two first-round picks, that seems like a fair deal for those guys. Yeah, that was Cleo Mack was two first-round picks.
Yeah, two first-round picks seems like a good deal. I would love for him to be a commander.
I would absolutely love that. I want Miles Garrett so bad.
Okay, so sign up the commanders. Come to D.C.
Miles, I know you're listening to the show. Come on, Miles.
Appreciate you. Don't listen to your boy Chris Long.
He's going to feed you a bunch of nonsense about the birds. Don't listen to him.
He's high. He's stoned.
He's not making any sense. He's a limp.
I am clear-minded, of sound body and mind, sober. Miles, come to D.C.
We'll treat you so good, buddy. We also had more reports from the Luka trade, and it just gets dumber and dumber.
This guy should be impressive. Nico Harrison uh the the big report came out and they basically did what we predicted where they were like luca's fat and he's so fat and we can't have him signing like the the quote that stuck out to me they were like yeah we didn't know if he was going to sign the supermax and we were kind of like half hoping he wouldn't it's's like, what the fuck? Yeah.
It makes no sense.

So yeah, Nico Harrison did this all at a coffee shop

with Rob Blinka and Rob Blinka essentially just heisted him

and pretended like, oh man, I know this is so difficult for you.

Like, we'll keep this under wraps, just the two of us.

And then he happened, he's like, whoops,

we got the best trade ever.

Do you think that Rob Blinka in those meetings, the thought occurred to him that maybe this is an episode of punk like is this a hidden camera show like i'm just gonna try to play it cool and and rob palenka did like he's like he's kind of fat you're right yeah nope the whole like oh well the chris paul trade got out when david stern you know you know put a squash to it um the anthony davis trade got out the first one from the Pelicans, and that ruined a lot of vibes. Like, we got to keep this tight.
We can't let anyone know just for the sanctity of this trade. And Nico's like, you're right.
You're so right. We cannot tell anyone.
And then it hits the airwaves. The Mavs are giving back $2,000 refunds for anyone who wants to cancel their season tickets.
Credit to them. That's how bad this trade is.
That's a good front office that knows how to take care of their fans. If I was a Mavs fan, I would never get over it.
I would never get over it. No.
That guy literally deserves to be in prison. It's malpractice.
Yeah, the only way you can reasonably get over it is if Luka ends up being like 320 pounds. Yeah, you got gotta hope he gets real fat.
I also want to root against Luca.

You don't want to root against Luca.

Nothing against Luca. It's also insane that everyone keeps saying

the 270. Isn't he like 6'8"?

Yeah, 270, not that big.

Yeah. Right.

You're worried about Super Bowl.

Say you're worried about Super Bowl. Yeah, no, he's just

upset. I am.
I'm upset.

I am

upset. Yeah, the

Luca thing, the fact that

Dalton Connect was even tossed out

I'll see you next time. upset i am i'm upset i am upset uh yeah the the lucas thing the fact that that don't connect was even tossed out there and the lakers were like i know you know including don't connect i think that kills the deal and the mavericks were like oh fuck they're gonna walk away yeah okay i'll say yes lucas 6'6 by the way and his listed weight is 230 he is not 230 that's pretty awesome but yeah he uh he he did his press conference he was like i was just as shocked as everyone else i thought it was april 1st there was that sad story that he just bought a new like 15 million dollar house so shit to luca that's brutal it's really bad yeah he's gonna have to sell that house it did seem that the gm nico was like just trying to avoid doing more work this summer and next year yeah i you know it's a it's a hard conversation do you want to commit this much money to him didn't really feel like going through that discussion so i just got him off my table yeah didn't want just didn't want him to gain a single more pound there was a funny story that uh harold bob uh went on a podcast he used to work for the mavs and he said his first time going to the mavs facility luca was working out in a sauna suit and then after the practice they got catered by tex-mex and luca filled up like a huge uh like jug with just sweet tea and lemonade it's the uh the burt kreischer with kool-aid right yeah but it's just you knew this was gonna happen they were say queso.
No, I thought, when he was telling the story, I thought the same thing. I was like, oh, did Luka just walk away with like a gallon of queso? Yeah, that would be awesome.
But yeah, they then banned sweet tea and lemonade from the practice after that. So they just, they don't want to let the guy fucking live.
You know, it's interesting. The double standard the media has, when LeBron James puts on nine pounds during an NBA game, we all talk about what a freak athlete he is.
When Luka puts on nine pounds during a practice, it's like, oh, this guy's got a problem. This guy's got a weight problem.
Yeah. I don't like the slander on Luka.
He did wear a fat guy outfit today. He had the button-up shirt and then the sweater over top of that.
So the button-up was holding his physique in, and then the cardigan was covering it all up. It would be very funny if he just showed up day one for the Lakers.
It was in the best shape ever, like chiseled, six-pack. Apparently LeBron called him right away and said, he said, I understand what you're feeling.
How does LeBron understand what he's feeling? LeBron has literally decided every step of his – that's the opposite of what you're feeling. There was a report the Lakers tried to trade him to the Warriors last year and Rich Paul was like, no.
So, I don't know how LeBron understands what Luka's feeling. I guess in the grand sense, maybe he just has empathy.
Actually, know what it was? When the story story broke lebron was at dinner so he probably was like i don't understand what you're feeling i'm full too yeah yeah you and i were not so different oh yeah we i have to take a shit luca i understand what you're feeling yeah um i think if the mavericks win the nba title this year that would be awesome and And then if the Lakers won the NBA championship for the three years after that,

that would be very funny.

Yeah.

So, yeah, shout out Luca for the $15 million house.

That's brutal.

You know he just moved.

I mean, moving does suck.

I'll say that.

Yeah.

Even as a guy who has over $200 million in the bank, it doesn't matter.

Moving sucks. Yeah, so $15 million.
I thought his house would be more expensive than that. You think so? It's cheaper in Dallas.
Also, I don't know. Once you get to it.
Yeah, what are mansions like in Dallas, Hank? They're nice. There's a lot of them, yeah.
They've got a pool. Better price for them, yeah.
Weak pools. Hot tubs.
Yeah, no, the drywall work is shoddy, to say the least. Oil.
Oil. Oil.

Oil.

Good point, Max. Yeah, great job, Max.

Was that a fat comment for Luca?

No, I think he was literally meaning oil.

Like oil money.

Okay.

He didn't complete the sentence.

He just said oil.

I was thinking about oil.

Big oil.

The dumbest trade ever.

I don't really know how it could.

It's just still like I thought that after two days there would be a little more clarity. And it would be.
I was expecting there to be like a Luka injury we didn't know about. It really just boils down to Nico Harrison's a moron.
And they were scared that Luka was going to keep gaining weight. It also could be trying to get a favor from LA.
And then they'd have to Yeah, they'd have to deal with it. Which way? The casino that the Mavericks owner wants to build.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or the ratings in L.A. thing makes sense, too.
Well, there's also. But that's a conspiracy.
I don't want to go down that road, but it's like you trade, you know, league ratings are going down. There's issues.
You trade the best player to the biggest market, international. That helps.
What was the casino? But that's a conspiracy. Dallas is not a small market.
That's bad to go down those roads. Yeah.
But it's not L.A. It's not L.A helps what was the casino but that's a conspiracy that's not a small market yeah but it's not la it's not only what was the casino conspiracy so the casino conspiracy is that the owner of the mavericks wants very badly to build a casino in texas right like at the site of the maverick because i heard it there's two casino conspiracies okay so i want to hear yours all right all right so so he he's on the record.
He's lobbying in the Texas state legislature, which means it meets for six months. Once every two years, they do all their work in those six months and then they just, they just go away and they don't do anything for a while.
So if you want to get anything done in Texas, Hank wants to be a legislator. So you should, you should work in the Texas state legislature, Hank.'m down yeah yeah are they on indeed step number one get uh established residency in texas you know any houses that you could live in he's already got his mansions there yeah all right so yeah big footprint for hank in texas already uh they do all their work in six months then they go away and they fuck off for a while the owner of the mavericks has been lobbying to get this casino built and to lobby for like legalized sports gaming and for gambling in texas uh the legislature's like yeah fuck it we don't really feel like doing that because we might lose some votes so we're not going to do the whole gambling thing that pissed off the owner of the mavericks now the conspiracy is the mavericks owner wants to send a good player to la to get on the good side of the Lakers because they're like the most powerful voice in the NBA so in a couple years he could threaten to move the Mavericks to Las Vegas where they have legalized gambling so so the conspiracy theory that I read kind of blends into that one where it's the mavs are the owners of the mavs are basically trying to alienate the fan base so much that the nba will eventually add two more teams and the addelsons i think their name is will uh move the mavs to las vegas and then there'll be a expansion franchise called the dallas mavericks yeah no That's's that's pretty much the same thing yeah but they it's like the NFL used to do this until there was a team in Vegas it was always great having Las Vegas without a team yeah because any owner anytime they wanted money from you know when the billionaires they don't want to pay for their own fucking stadiums you can bleep that out uh they would say yeah well we could maybe move to Las Vegas right and then the would be like, yeah, I guess we have to give you all the money for our schools.
Yeah. Kind of the same thing.
Yeah, the L.A. Yeah.
Like you said, the L.A. thing.
Which, in fairness, would you rather have a good school system or a winning football team? Winning football team? Winning football team. Yeah.
I don't know why I paused for so long. I'm not in school.
I was thinking about my kids for a second. I was like, nah.
It's better if your kids are dumb. You can trick them.
Your kids can root for football. Just YouTube.
Just give them YouTube. They can learn football math.
Yeah. Just log them into x.com.
The better your football team is, the more numbers they learn. Friggin' packets.
Yeah. They are the media.
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My Hot Seat is the MLB. Oh, okay.
And I'm not a conspiracy guy. No, never were.
I'm just chill, just vibe out. Let life happen.
Whatever happens, happens. C'est la vie.
Dolphins. But if you were a conspiracy guy, you might be like, this is fucking insane.
The MLB had to fire a ref because he was sharing a... Ref, sorry, umpire.
He was sharing a gambling account with another gambler who was gambling on baseball, including the games that he was umpiring. Was it his brother or was it just a friend? I'll say it.
Professional poker player. I'll say it.
Oh, wow. Yeah.
They should fire him. You think? Sharing a gambling account is a felony.
Yeah. Like, not even just legally.
I'm just saying that's the most psycho thing I've ever heard. You having to track everything you bet and then everything your friend bets, that's crazy.
And then if you hit a couple bets, then your friend tells people, like, hey, look at all these bets I hit. That's insane.
And he takes credit for your wins. Insane move.
Blames you for the losses. Pre-crime.
But he said he never bet on baseball directly or indirectly. Don't care.
You shared a gambling account. That's weirdo behavior.
But that account did bet on baseball games that he was reffing. Right.
Correct. But also, just like you don't even, if the MLB was like, we don't even care about the whole betting part or the baseball thing, we can't have people employed by us who think it's okay to share a gambling account.
Yeah, it makes no sense. Makes no sense.
I think it's like old school when like way back in the day when my friends would text me being like, can you put this in for me? I'm like, no, because then when you win, I'm just going to have to pay you because I lose all the time. Yeah.
I mean, shout out to White Switch Lou because I used to not gamble as much money. So he would just let me bet on his account but then i never really had to pay because he'd be like oh that's just free rolling yeah yeah baseball umpires are frauds anyways i used to think they were all fat because they wore the chest protectors yeah i think they used to be fatter back in the day they did they've gotten a little bit in shape i don't like probably nothing yeah probably nothing yeah wait did you know i i there's something there i don't want weirdos umpiring baseball games was he the umpire for any like significant games i did not say in the article that i read we got to go back and check that it'd be funny if he shared the gambling account with shohei or ipe yeah we're sharing a gambling account and you're like hey i'm gonna go I'm going to go umpire tonight.
And I was like, yeah. Hey,

by the way,

I'm going to go umpire tonight. And I was like, hey, by the way, I'm betting the Orioles.
Yeah. Yeah.
We did all kind of stop talking about the Ipe Shohei thing. Yeah.
But that wasn't a foul. Yeah, Ipe, he begged for leniency.
I don't know. Justice for Ipe, maybe.
Possibly. More to come.

Then my cool throw is Kendrick Lamar.

Yeah.

It was after we taped on Sunday, but he won five Grammys.

Five and O.

Not like us.

Every Grammy that was nominated for, he won.

Super Bowl halftime.

Super Bowl halftime.

He's having a hell of a week.

The whole crowd sang A minor when they played the song. Was it from a Drake was it from a Drake song where he said, Kendrick opened his mouth, give him a Grammy? Yeah.
That's tough. Someone give him a Grammy right now.
That's tough. He's wearing a Canadian tuxedo.
It really is. And yeah, it was like, oh, he won five Grammys.
Oh, he's doing the Super Bowl in a week. Has there ever been more of a blowout, subjective loss? It's insane.
That the Kendrick-Drake thing turned into into like obviously art is entirely in the eye of the beholder and different people can have differing opinions but in this one thing where people can interpret it either any way they see fit like this is as big of a blowout as you'll ever see i have a diss track the record of the like it's the best song of In the entire. And he made the song in like two minutes.

Yeah.

And here's the Super Bowl too.

Yeah.

Good job.

You're going to have everyone say, probably you're going to have people

sing the pedophile line.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like a nine nothing soccer victory and three of them were own

goals.

Drake.

He has to basically release the best song of all time.

I don't think it matters at this point.

I think he's, I think it's just cooked disappear.

I think Drake needs to sue everyone that's listened to the song.

He needs to basically release the best song of all time. I don't think it matters at this point.
I think he's just cooked. Disappear.
I think Drake needs to sue everyone that's listened to the song. He needs to disappear and make the best album ever that's like 10 of the best songs ever, and then maybe he has a chance.
Okay, PFT. Good job, Hank.
We're going to mention the Max story before the Lane interview, because he's on my cool throne, too. Oh, no jalen hurts well oh oh yeah we went to the eagles hotel today what happened with jalen hurts uh we were we were going to do lane johnson in the yeah we were going to go do him going to interview lane johnson sorry uh and jalen hurts was just having to be walking by us in the hallway and max like like behind a column.
He was not supposed to be. He was like, oh, Jalen Hurts.
And hid behind a column and then kind of peeked his head out to look at him and walk by. You were like in the bushes.
It was so funny. Why were you that? It was so funny.
I was scared. He's done merch collabs with us.
But it's like he saw him, and he was like, oh. I was nervous.
I was expecting to see him. We were standing right.
It started off, I just stared at him. And then I think he saw me staring at him.
I was like, this is awkward. And you got to your red eyes still.
I just got scared and went behind this little pillar. Match with his red eyes.
Where's your eye going to stop being red? I don't know. So what did you think? What do you saw? He looked strong.
Yeah? Real strong? Yeah, he was walking well. Yeah, I analyzed the gate.
He was walking strong. Walking confident.
No sight of a limp. He's going to fuck shit up on Sunday.
Yeah. In a good way.
That's not really. No, like I came here to fuck shit up.
Yeah, but fuck shit up could go poorly. No.
I came here to fuck shit up. That's like a saying.
He's going to hand the fuck out of the ball on Sunday. And throw the football.
He can do both. And run the football.
And run the football. He can do everything.
And score the football. He said it's not the Tush push.
It's just a QB sneak. Yeah.
He said that at media night. Beast.
Love him. The Packers president said he hopes that it gets banned.
I think I was having this conversation with Jerry. Does he have the best goatee in sports right now? Oh, interesting.
Embrace debate. Who? Easily.
Jalen Hurts. We don't have a lot of relief pitcher goatees like we used to.
No. That was like it was part of the uniform code hard to pull off yeah he pulls it off he does pull it off you just passed over what pft said i don't remember what he said the packers uh president is trying to get the tush push band yeah they're pussies yeah it's football yeah be better be better that's all i have to say if you don't like the tush push don't let him get in tush push situations or keep breaking the rules until the referees threaten you with a touchdown.
That's what winners do. Okay, your hot seat, Kultrung? My hot seat is the birds.
Birds are on the hot seat. Ducks? Yeah, because like 300 dead birds washed up ashore.
Don't worry Lake Michigan in Chicago they said it's bird flu maybe oh no bro that's the circle of life man yeah it is comes for all of us Carson Wentz just hanging out do you think he just shot all of them I don't know that seems like a lot of dead ducks what if Carson Wentz has to play in this game this weekend you're're insane. Max has gone crazy right now.
Oh, my God. That would actually be unbelievable.
Oh, my God. If Carson Wentz beats you.
Despite the fact that I need the Eagles to win for everything. New favorite storyline just drops.
I would root so hard. And that's fucked up to even say, but it would be so funny.
$30,000.

You said at the end of this show. What Carson Wentz beating you in the Super Bowl would be.

And it would also be like, because then I could be like, well,

it's not even Patrick Mahomes.

He's the system quarterback.

We already taped FAQs earlier today, and you were like,

it can't get worse.

Oh, that would be.

That would get worse.

I would come.

That would be worse.

You said that in a good way.

Yeah.

Oh, man. No, I was just thinking about it.
You said Carson Wentz, and I was like, oh, yeah, Carson Wentz plays for the Chiefs. Yeah.
What if they roll that little freak out there, and he just drops 300 yards on you? What if Patrick Mahomes goes out in the first quarter, and then Carson Wentz comes in and sprains both his ankles again and then still wins? Mm-hmm. Tough guy.
Yeah. That would stink.
Would that be the biggest sports story ever? Ever. Ever.
Ever? Ever. Bigger than Luka.
Ever. OJ? Nah.
That's not a sports story. That's crime.
It's kind of a sports story. He was athletic and fast? He's a football player.
NASCAR, maybe. NASCAR.
Yeah, Max, that would be awesome. Now that's what I hope happens.
Yeah, no, I hope that that doesn't happen. Sorry for interrupting you there.
Carson Wentz, Super Bowl MVP. All right, what's your cool throne? My cool throne is litigation.
Because Pat Riley has struck a deal with the nfl so the term three pete is trademarked by pat riley from back when the lakers did it and anytime a team wants to use the term three pete they got to pay pat royalties and uh the chiefs as we know they didn't get a three pete by the. He got it when they had two and they were going for their third and lost to the Pistons.

Yeah.

But he did trademark it.

So, yeah, Hank, it is sick that any time somebody uses that officially—

It's crazy.

—you've got to kick up to the big man, Pat Riley.

So the Chiefs, obviously, on the precipice of an unprecedented three-peat in the NFL,

and they struck a deal with the NFL that that they can put it on merchandise the term

three pete if the chiefs win does that make you do the fingers max the nfl seems like they wouldn't do this if they didn't already know that chiefs were going to win what do you think about that max i don't know i'm worried about winning and also a little bit about Carson Wentz.

Yeah.

I shouldn't have said that.

My other cool turn is style because i just downloaded the the timu app and you can just buy anything on there it all costs like 12 and so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna load up on the highest fashion sense ever and i thought you're doing new stuff i thought you're doing new fashion yeah but they got sounds like you it sounds like the pft of old they got they got high fashion haute couture on timu designer brands i'm just gonna order what designers i don't know the gap no they're not dude you don't know about timu i'm gonna get i'm gonna be so swaggy when i get back from vacation i'm gonna look like a new a new man, new clothes. Sean, John.
Yeah. Whatever.
Echo unlimited. What you're growing up.
Echo unlimited. Get some, uh, yeah, some like, what was diddy's? I don't know.
What was Sean, John, Sean, John. Yeah.
No, yeah. I'm probably not going to wear that.
Yeah. I did get oiled up the other day though.
You did. I'm a smoothest man in the podcast biz.
All right. PMTV.
My hot seat – PMTV, watch it. My hot seat is college football because we have this from – there's a Twitter account called Board Geniuses, which is a great follow because they basically just get all the crazy conspiracy theories and everything from all the message boards.
Nothing, dude. Nope.
Well, hot seat college football because I think this is from Pitt Panther, so it's from the Panther Lair message board. It's called the Underground Talent Railroad.
Step one, self-awareness. Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse, BC, and Rutgers all take an honest look at themselves and think, wow, as college football programs go, we are freaking depressing.
Step two, collusion. While individually we make our fans want to bathe with electronic appliances, maybe we can be something collectively.
Step three, teamwork. Let's create a network where we're all transparent with each other.
Every fifth year, each one of us can take its turn having the A team. In the first season, Pitt gets to have the 22 best players between the five programs.
In the second season, Syracuse gets the best 22, and so on and so forth. We'll use unlimited transfers to our benefit, and all players who commit to these five schools will be well aware of the deal in place.
Playing on the A team in a given season will be a great privilege. Step four, Natty.
I don't hate it. I love it.
I actually don't hate it at all. I love it.
I love it. Yeah, so is collusion even illegal? I don't know.
Is it? Who's going to enforce it? I think you can collude. You can do whatever you want.
Collusion and collabing. Good point.
Good point, yeah. They're just collabing.
Yeah. It's just a hardcore collab.
The most ambitious crossover event of all time. Syracuse, Pitt.
Who else? Syracuse. I minimized it.
I think it was Syracuse, Pitt. Rutgers? Rutgers.
Easy. And Boston College.
I don't know who the fifth team was. Sorry.
But in reality, if were to take like the all-star teams from those schools and put them together on one team, I still don't think that they're going to. Yeah, it's still probably you probably would just get like a better bowl game.
Maybe get into the playoff. Maryland was the other team.
OK, the underground talent railroad. Yeah, I don't know why they had to go there.
Yeah. Just stick with likeusion yeah well here's another one uh for my cool throne um this just happened uh dennis schroeder uh from the warriors said the trade deadline is like modern slavery luka donchich deal shouldn't be allowed um i don't know what how that would be because he's had to play he's had to play with like six teams in seven years or five years that's that was part of it i'm not i had to play for five teams in six years i'm not a history buff so maybe you guys can help me um did slaves get paid no okay do nba players get paid they do probably not that much i do yeah i don't know how is this quote i'm trying to find you get dunk centled no no it's on cbs sports it's it's quite a quote i think i think what he was trying to say is that it sucks to get traded it's like modern slavery it's modern slavery at the end of the day everybody can decide where you're going even if you have a contract yeah of course you make a lot of money we can feed our families but at the end of the day if they say you're not coming to work tomorrow you're going over there they can decide that they got to change that a little bit i isn't that part of the contract yeah and that's also how trades work and there's also a thing as if you're good enough you can get a no trade clause yes where you can control where you're going it's kind of crazy that the organization can you, we want you to be team first, but you're going over there.
It's a lot. I feel like Dennis Schroeder just figured out how sports work.
Yeah. I mean, it's a fair point to be like, yeah, it personally kind of sucks when you get traded.
Here's another thing. If you, I mean, in the NBA, you have guaranteed contracts.
So unlike a regular job where you can be fired and just not paid, the NBA, even if you get traded, you still get paid. Yeah, it's true.
So it's not a bad gig. What are you saying? Dennis Schroeder, all time bag fumbler, all time, what bag fumbler? Yeah.
Yeah. He had the 12.4 million dollar deal with the Lakers and opted out and bet on himself and got like a one point something.
That's gotta be real kick, kick in the dick when you're like, I'd like to bet on myself. And then the casino tells you, yeah, it turns out you suck.
Oh, shit. You bet on yourself? Oh, you're a loser.
Yeah. Craps.
Yeah. Damn.
Max, do you have a hot seat, Cool Tron? Yeah, mine are bad. Oh, no.
Should I say it? Yeah. Yeah.
We're doing a podcast. I actually will.
I'm going to say this in defense of Max. For the first time all week, I think he's actually locked in.
I'm a little bit concerned about him. You didn't let me finish.
Locked in on trying to fight off his hangover. That's not true.
Not true. I asked him to swear to me when he went out last night.
He goes, oh, yeah. End of the show.
I was pretty. We did the end of the show this morning.
Yeah. I was pretty hungover.
You look great now. Right now.
Right now, I feel good. Yeah, the red eye is really healing.
Well, I have a red eye. Hank has done thousands of podcasts with deep red eyes.
Yeah. Yep.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So So hot seat.
Kevin Durant might get traded. Oh.
That was my hot seat. Okay.
Per Max. That's never happened.
No. They said that they're listening to phone calls on Kevin Durant.
Got it. And there's a bunch of guys that are doing that now.
If it's on phone calls. The Warriors are trying to trade.
The week of trade deadline week. Yeah.
Yeah, I know. Trade deadline week.
I'll say this. I got a text from a random number that Jimmy Butler and Jay Rich are going through the heat confirmed and said this is a random source.
It's real. He's on the heat.
I mean, the Suns. Apologies.
But Bradley Beal has to waive his no trade. Listen, this is what a random ass text sent me.
Okay. Yeah, sounds good.
I trust that guy. So Kevin Durant, there's...
There's listening. So Kevin, it's the trade deadline, and Kevin Durant might be traded.
That's what people are saying. This is a novel concept.
Paul George, also, the Warriors are trying to trade for Paul George. Oh, okay.
If Nico calls... And Caleb Martin also got traded.
Didn't Paul George just sign? Get Caleb Martin out of the East. Fuck him.
Yeah Yeah. What he just signed with the Sixers.
Yeah, it

traded him. All right.
But you're just saying names now.

Quentin Grimes and the Sixers. Yeah.
The Mavs. But it's

making me feel better. Yeah, he is.
Are you a cool

drone? If you get a call from Nico right now, if you're you're a GM, you're so excited to pick up that call. Yeah, that's true.
That would be the best time for Nico to get a great trade-off. Yeah.
Because everyone thinks he's a fucking moron. Everyone said he got fleeced.
Quentin Grimes is younger and better than Caleb Martin. That's the big fleecing that they're talking about.
South the killer, true.

All right.

Yeah, cool throne us.

Hank is right because we're not what you are right now.

Wrong.

Cool throne.

Giants.

Jameis to the Giants, according to Saquon.

Yeah.

That's it.

Done.

Finito.

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Let's get to our interviews.

Lane Johnson and then Jameis Winston. One very funny thing on the set.
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Okay, here he is, Elaine Johnson.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is future Hall of Famer, Lane Johnson.

How's that sound?

How's that sound?

That sounds pretty good.

Future Hall of Famer, Lane Johnson,

ahead of his third Super Bowl appearance here in New Orleans.

Let's start with that.

Three Super Bowls, pretty crazy to go to. You're one and one.
This is the tiebreaker. Yeah.
I mean, it's got to feel pretty crazy, especially the fact that you've done it with, like, I think I was reading, it's like you and Jake Elliott and maybe one other person. BG and Rick.
Yeah. And so it's just like you guys are the holdovers from the Super Bowl win, and then you went to another one,, and now you're here the third.
That's pretty cool. Yeah.
I mean, the season takes so long to develop and play out, but, you know, by December you kind of know that your team's in a good positive state. So, man, we struggled a little bit early, but after that, man, we were off and rolling.
And, yeah, man, third, it's crazy. I mean, you don't plan on it, but, hey, hey while we're here let's have a good time and win this thing you mentioned the struggle because there was that story that during the bye week you guys who was it was you and and a couple other guys went to Nick and were just basically like hey like let's run the fucking ball we can we can pound this and we're like let's get let's get this out of the mud right yeah I mean i think it was like similar to what we did in 21 when we played detroit and went from like really throwing the ball heavy to like a lot of run play action and then saquon will bust for like 70 it's like just just tossing the damn ball yeah that's got to feel pretty good yeah oh yeah first play from scrimmage in the nfc championship game it's like okay okay, yeah, we're going to do this.
We're going to roll on.

Yeah.

No, yeah.

I mean, you never plan on it, but his ability to just, you know,

and my ability to just head straight to the bench

when it's not even done as an older guy now,

so I get kind of criticized for laziness.

No, your offensive line in that game, it was impressive to watch.

Like, you guys are some tough motherfuckers. Well, some big.
Like, I'm, like, the second smallest. Yeah, it was crazy.
Jurgens and myself, so we got some monsters. Yeah.
I mean, the way that Cam was playing, the way that Landon Dickerson was playing, especially after getting injured in that first half, like, that was – you guys left it all on the field. It was impressive.
Yeah, Landon, man, he might be the toughest guy, though. He's know he's had i don't know how many surgeries but in college and then he could do the splits and all i got a video y'all got to see if i can have time to find it him at jack driscoll's wedding him doing the fucking splits and the worm yeah so i mean if we have time maybe yeah yeah it's kind of not safe for work but wait so when when when you see that when like landon dick and then Cam Juergens, who, you know, he's got the back injury, Landon goes out, does it make you all, as, like, a unit, be like, we just got to be tougher than everyone? Because you know guys are playing.
Like, Cam Juergens was – his back is, like, broken, and he's like, all right, I guess I'm in. I've only seen him on a BOSU ball for, like, the past two like sitting on the motherfucker, like sprawled out at practice.
What's the play? But it's got to make everyone feel like we've got to just get even tougher. Yeah, man, those guys, yeah, they are.
But I think just how with stout coaches and just guys in the past, like Kels never missed a game, played lots of games, and he always had something that was going on. But I don't know, it's part of the position, I guess.
Are you feeling healthy? Because I remember last time in 2022 when we came to visit you Super Bowl week, you had like six different injuries that should have sidelined anyone else. Yeah, I pretty much had a C-section.
Yeah, I know. You definitely downplayed it too.
You're just like, no, I'm all right. Well, no, it wasn't like it hurt initially, and then after a few weeks of you know kind of died down but after I had the surgery the groin surgery was not good yeah and you had your foot too it was the foot injury as well I think going to that yeah but yeah but it was it was major up there yeah the little bit north yeah so are we good now though we're feeling yeah we're good man I feel yeah no no bruisesinks, dents.
That's good. So you had a hernia? Is that what it was? Groin.
I tore both groins. Both groins? I tore my left one in Dallas, and they did the other side, and they said it was already.
So it must have been torn. I didn't know.
Yeah. But my right side didn't hurt.
It was on my left. Yeah, I feel like if you have two injuries, your your body only really focuses on one at a time but right like it's hard to feel pain in two places one day at a time i promise so wait so you wouldn't have known that you'd already had torn your groin if you didn't tear the other part of your groin i think because because i didn't like i wasn't in any pain but when i felt the left one it popped and i felt it roll up.
It felt like a cramp.

And then after the adrenaline wore off, hey, it wasn't a cramp.

That's crazy.

But you're feeling good now.

Feeling good now, yeah.

I still got scars, but hey.

Would you lie to us if you weren't feeling good now?

No.

I mean, other than this damn pinky I've had for three weeks,

I didn't get it x-rayed, but hey.

Yeah, you can't do anything for a pinky.

Just tape it up. Give it a buddy finger.
Buddy tape it. And how many more years you got left? Because people keep saying that.
I don't know why that's the story. How much money they got left.
Okay. All right.
I like that. I like that.
But you're not? I'm not retiring after this game. I said, yeah.
Okay. What if you get Super Bowl MVP? That'd be pretty sick.
We'll give those guys a drug test and see. That would rock, though.
Saquon. I got three touchdowns.
Saquon gets 250 yards, but you have like seven pancakes on all those runs. You just dominate people.
Offensive lineman, MVP. That'd be fun to see.
Yeah, I might just take it from him eventually from his house. He wouldn't even know.
You know what I'm saying? He's got so many. Was there a part of you that wanted Saquon to play week 18? Where you're just like – because, I mean, it's pretty damn cool.
Yeah, no, we talked about it. But then, like we had the year before, AJ got hurt in that game.
We had to go play Tampa and couldn't play. So, it's like we wanted the record.
But, hey, if you go out there and get something that happens to Saquon, they're going to be off with your head around here. So, your decision.
Yeah. I mean, it's your year.
Yeah, the way I see it, you look at – I feel like carries matter. So, he would have had – needed 30-something more carries to do what Dickerson did for yards.
But either way, it's like we're at a point in the season it's like, okay, now 2,000's in front of us. It's close.
It's attainable. But it's like nothing that you plan on at the beginning of the season.
Yeah. Yeah he runs for like 250 in one game, you're like, hey, fuck, he could really do this.
And it's crazy because your rookie year, LaShawn McCoy, had the record. And it felt similar like that.
But I didn't know they had a Russian record title. That was a big deal until he bought us some watches.
Yeah, I was like, hey, it's a pretty big deal. Yeah, and how many yards did he finish up with this year? I think he was 16-something, I believe, for that year.
Yeah, it was like a little over 1,600. What about for this year? For LeSean.
Shady. 2013? Yeah, 2013.
Saquon's would be, what, 2003 yards or whatever? Yeah, it's cool. 2005, because it was exactly 1,000 over Stephen Chase..07 for Shady.
16. 2005.
2005. Okay, and it's cool that he got in 16 games too.
So you can say like, hey, you can stack this up. This is an incredible season.
Didn't they really just mess with the record book holders at this extra game? I know. I mean, damn it.
Everything. It's about to be moved to 18.
Yeah. That's when you got to get out.
They announced the Super Bowl dates today. And in 2027, I think, it's going to be in L.A., and it's going to be on President's Day weekend, which means probably 18 games at that point.
They were scheming. They were scheming.
They care about player safety, though. Yeah.
Player safety first and foremost. Number one.
Hey, I do have to wear the mushroom guardian cap guardian cap? The guardian cap over whenever I'm in practice.

But in games, I'm good.

Does that help?

Scientifically, probably.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Maybe in practice it reduces some of the, like, small hits that add up.

Yeah, but in practice, I mean, we – I mean, run days, like Wednesdays when we pad up, we'll hit.

And other than that, it's mostly using hands.

Yeah. So if you were to compare this Eagles team to the other two Eagles Super Bowl teams who wins like this team against the Nick Foles team good question thank you I don't know it's hard to that's not really good question it's hard to compete with a man who speaks soft and carries a Well said.

Do you want some crazy Lane Johnson stats? big stick. Well said.

Do you want some crazy

Lane Johnson stats?

Sure. Hold on, I gotta finish.

How they stack up?

Well, I feel like we had a blend

to be great for all three teams.

I feel like we might be more talented than last year's

Super Bowl. I don't know if it's as talented as

17. That's still the best team

until, you know, if we win this one, prove otherwise. So, that's how I see it.
But both, you had like older vets, a bunch of young, like, you know, like Qs, like just super freak rookies and Cooper. So.
And this is also, I mean, it's kind of similar. I know that it was a little different that the Patriots won a Super Bowl, then lost to you guys and won a Super Bowl, but that would have been a three--peat, and now you're trying to stop another three-peat.
Yeah, but either way, they're in the Super Bowl every year, it seems like, the past five of the last six years. So, yeah, man, with all those teams, they don't make very many mistakes.
Yeah. I mean, they all are.
Yeah. What are you going to do? I remember, was it week one against the Ravens, the Chiefs? They were calling a lot of those false starts on the Ravens, on the tackles.
And it was mine and Juwan Taylor's fault for all this. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. Do you think that the refs are going to be out to get you? Well, hell, I told him to go talk to my parole officer, Jason Peters.
He's the one that told me how to fucking hit me the snap. Just call this number.
You look big dumb on the sideline just looking at the refs. I'll take care of a lot of that stuff.
Just go talk to Dom. You ready for the Lane Johnson stats? On Sunday, Lane Johnson will become only the third offensive tackle in NFL history to make six Pro Bowls, two first-team All-Pros, and start in three Super Bowls.
The other two guys did it like 40 years ago. You're the first guy to do it in 40 years and then the crazy one i'm sure you've seen it uh and i know it's a team game but since you since you uh got to the eagles when you're not on the field the eagles are 15 and 23 when you're on the field they're 102 and 55 that's insane We've done pretty good.
good. That's fucking insane.
It's like, so there's 650 win percentage with you playing, 395 without you playing. Yeah.
That's pretty damn good. Do you see those stats and you're like, oh, okay.
The stats I care about is the hurries, the pressures. Which you don't give up any.
Yeah, but whatever you do, they're tallied. oh, look at that.
PFF grades. Yeah, so it's like I'm not even trying to press out no more.
I'm trying to fucking get my PFF grades so I can fucking party. You know, like party like I want to.
But no, man, I feel like I just, especially all these last few years, like I felt like when I had the injury, like when I was 29, 30, I felt like I had some really good years taken away from me. So, like, my sense of urgency, the past few is like, well, I'm in my 30s now.
Let's fucking – it's now and ever. Yeah.
Yeah, man, that's really what it is. And we have a lot of fun, but we have a lot of talented guys in the room.
Like, Makai being that big inside makes passing off stunts so much easier.on Jordan and in our style of offense this year like so much run play action versus just you know straight shotgun rushing the snapper it changes things for us yeah do you do you enjoy pass blocking uh yeah when they call a quick protection yeah some boots no I don't mind it um I do. It's like going into a boxing match, a pass block is you dodging punches and making sure nothing happens, and then run blocking is, hey, I'm fucking throwing a haymaker back.
Let's go. Yeah.
When you get in space, like a big angry dog, and you just start running downhill at somebody, that looks like that's fun. Yeah, it is, and especially when we're organized and everybody's on the same page and it just looks like a wave on film.

And then Saquon just, you know, he does his own –

creates his own waves and lanes.

But, yeah, it's fun, man.

We have a lot of fun with Stout.

And I was telling you about him earlier,

but he's the catalyst to everything, I feel like.

Yeah.

Were you guys mad at Saquon when he jumped,

when he hurled someone backwards?

I mean, that was – it was the coolest play ever, but it also was like, don't do that. That's a bad idea.
I've never seen that. I mean, I've watched all the Barry Sanders highlights, but that's about the only thing I think I haven't seen Barry Sanders do was do that.
So I wasn't mad at it. I was on the other side of the field, and I saw it like obviously after the game, but I was looking at the scoreboard, and I was like, holy fuck.
Yeah, did you guys – how many times did you guys watch it and film that? Oh, so many times. It's like, how did you see this? But no, it's crazy, man.
And he's a lot of fun. He's a great locker room guy.
He loves golf. I don't know if you know.
He loves golf, and that's all he wants to do. So, really, the first day he came in, we all went, a bunch of guys on the team, and went golfing and went from there.
What's his game like? That day he played pretty well. There's times where he struggles.
He gets super critical of himself. And he comes back the next day like nothing happened.
What did he get you guys this year? What did Jalen get you guys? They got us a nice watch. Okay.
They got us the golf carts. Oh.
The golf carts oh the golf golf that's sick yeah you got it you got it at the bro barn how's the bro barn doing oh it's doing good uh baldy's in there dead lifting about every Wednesday Thursday Tuesdays and Wednesdays so uh Sean comes over there a lot Sean Brady he trains a lot lot. So during the season, like I'm in there sometimes,

but mostly I'm at the, you know, working out.

But my trainer, Gabe, I don't know if you – Gabe Rangel.

But anyways, he trains a bunch of guys in there.

Yeah.

I feel like Baldy watches more film than most coaches. That's all he does.

He loves it.

He's like Gruden.

Yeah.

He's like one of those guys that he's not going to watch the weather.

He's not going to watch Netflix.

He's watching fucking Outside Zone. Yeah.
You know? Perfectly said. Coming up with nicknames for guys.
Yeah. With the Saquon Hurdle, did you go up to him the first time you saw it on the video board? Were you like, dude, you just fucking jumped over that guy backwards? Did you like pass him? That's what I'm saying.
Like, I know in the past, I would have definitely, I think I dapped him up, but I probably just went to the bench and just sat down.

Like I'm glad he's on our team.

Yes.

Because I was on the other sideline a lot when he did that.

I remember his first time we played him – the first time we played him in New York

and he had a hurdle over one of our guys and I was going.

He could be pretty good.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, good call.

Good scouting.

We have –

That was a good – yeah, it was a good scouting moment by me.

There are some NFL analysts out there that said that Saquon was not a top-tier running back going into the season. What would you say to those people? Put your name to where your quote is, buddy.
I hate to be anonymous. Just say it.
Who you work for. His name's Stephen Che.
He works at Arsenal Sports. He said don't draft him because he's only had one season in his career that he's gone over 1,005 yards.
And I don't know why he picked 1,005. Makes me think maybe he had a couple of seasons where he had 1,003.
But then he had 1,000 yards more than that. So now he's got 2,000 or 3,000 yards.
Yeah. This is also the same analyst that said that the tush push should be banned.
Yes. And that he hopes that Jalen Hurts gets injured doing the tush push.
Yeah. Same analyst.
When I can't find my car keys, you know, after 20 minutes of searching for them, I kind of agree with him. Yeah, do you, when they call it, are you just like, oh, here we go again? But you know it's going to work.
No, not when they call it. It's like when you have a Washington goal line situation.
Yeah, that rocked. Yeah, and they're just jumping over.
I mean, we saw a loophole. No, it is fun, but if you do get rocked or sometimes where you just do you like though watching other teams try it and fail because you're like this is that's i think the the the part that people miss is like people say oh we want the tush push band no one does it like the eagles yeah well like milana is really good i'm okay at it but like it really starts like the center the wedge and having guard like landon's you've seen land and land it's really good.
I'm okay at it. But, like, it really starts, like, the center, the wedge, and having guard.

Like, Landon's – you've seen Landon.

Landon's a monster.

Yeah.

Makai's a monster.

But I feel like Brady was really good with the Patriots.

Yeah, that's true.

It was really good.

Well, like, Josh Allen, the Bills were doing it.

They were getting stuffed.

Yeah.

You've got to watch out for Chris Jones.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Big stick.

Yeah.

Speak softly.

Yeah. I don't speak much.
No, no. Yeah, Landon just gets lower than everybody.
Yeah. Like I said, after I show you this video, I'll show you him getting about as low as you can get.
So when Frankie Louvre was jumping over and he was doing it a couple times, what was he saying after he would lie? I'll tell you what, they'll talk some of the linemen, but it's mostly like everybody has their fuse. The DBs and receivers, they've got their own fights out there.
I don't get to hear any of the conversations. Then the running backs, Saquon, Frankie, him, Bobby, they have their own dialogue going in the game.
That's a good question. If the refs had said, we want to award you guys a touchdown, would you have done the honorable thing and say, we decline? We'd like to settle this on the field like men? I'd decline that.
I'd like to settle it with a new fresh new set of downs. Okay, yeah, maybe if you do the same penalty like four times in a row, we'll give you the first down at the end.
Go change that in the rule book in the new CBA. Yeah.
I think we asked you this last time before the Super Bowl. What color Gatorade do you guys like to drink? Just curious.
I like the one with all the red threes in it. Okay.
I'm trying to get them all in me before RFK gets it up out of here. It goes for the reds.
It goes, I guess, for the purples. Yeah.
Okay. But typically on the sideline, what's in that cooler? Yeah.
It's usually like, I think, lemon lime. Oh, okay.
Yellow, usually. Yeah.
Very interesting. Is it clear, though, as well? Is there just water? Yeah, no, there's definitely water.
Then you have Gatorade. And then you have, I think we call it Levelin.
It's a hydration specialist. They put, I guess, more salt in it.
But if you were to grab one in the game and dump it on someone, would you do like the lemon lime?

Yeah, I mean that's what's going to be on the cups.

I'm not sure what's going to be in this cup.

I'm just saying like Big Cap brought up all those great stats about you

and your illustrious career.

You give me some blue Kool-Aid mix or whatever,

I can make it blue for you.

I'll go do that.

Make it a color no one's ever seen.

We can't even identify this.

All bets are off.

All right.

So I told you this when we were texting, but I was texting a wrong Lane Johnson number. How long? I think it was a year.
It was January 9th, 2024. But the reason why I thought I was still texting you is it started with in January 9th, 2024 I released, well my computer released the power rankings so there's computer power rankings the Eagles were in the super ass category and you replied on Twitter dang bro and I was like shit, he's pissed at me I don't want Lane Johnson pissed at me so I texted you and I said thanks Brian I was like fuck I didn't think you'd see the power rankings maybe the start of the championship DVD and the person replied this is no longer Lane's number and I was like oh he's just fucking with me he's an asshole he just doesn't want to reply and then it went on where I was just like texting you some more and then on NFC championship Championship game, I said, congrats, see you, Nola.
And I sent you a video of Max spitting on the camera. And the guy just replied, this is not Lane.
And I was like, wait a second. I've just been texting the wrong Lane Johnson.
And then I texted Chris, and he was like, yeah, he had a new number a year ago. Did the guy identify himself? No, he's just not Lane.
Does the guy, he must get a lot of texts for Lane. He must.
If he's ready to be like. I'm just for a son of a bitch.
This is the last time you're going to ask me. Send him a picture of Lane.
Yeah, I will. I'll send him a picture.
Hey, having a lot of fun talking to you right now, Lane. Where's my Lane tag? I'm showing him my tag.
Yeah, I'm going gonna send him a text right now and be like great time hanging with you they didn't put lane on they put fucking david johnson my first name so yeah i think i'm a fake all right here just yeah all right i'm gonna text him right now i'm gonna say great great time hanging out today Well, your first name is David? Your first name is David?

Yeah, they probably spent about two minutes thinking of that one. Yeah.
No, my dad's David. His middle name is Earl.
And so they built mine up a little bit with Lane. Lane Johnson is a much better name for an offensive lineman.
Yeah. David Johnson would have been 1970s.
Yeah, the basketball player. 1980s.
Yeah. That's an oil-filled name.
So have other people said they've been texting the wrong lane? I got about 500 messages. I don't – it is the biggest stress.
But it's so funny because it's like normally that happens where people have to change numbers. But the fact that it happened right after the power rankings and I was like, oh, he's fucking with me.
He's just pretending to not know who I am. It's happened with some friends.
And they're like, you fucking asshole. I've been trying to get a hold of you for two or three years.
And you don't ever reply. They see me and they're fucking super pissed.
I love it. I love it.
I just was like, damn, I really fucked up. Lane Johnson's mad at me.
Turns out it was just some random dude who I've been bothering. And he's mad so when big cats computer released those power rankings you were actually mad though like super ass is not super that's not good i don't know if you're going to air this but uh i don't run my twitter i don't have the password to it or so all that stuff is uh beat brian uh bracky my uh my marketing guy so he actually runs that as me okay so brian was pissed at me huh brian was pissing me with the dang also he he understands traction yeah but hold on he's trying to get it be a part of the algorithm in defense of my in defense of my computer rankings matrix in defense of my computer rankings you were you guys were the computer said super ass and then you lost to the bucks in the first round the first round.
Like, the computer was right. It was right.
The computer was dead right last year. Dead ass.
You guys had Super Bowl contenders all year this year. Last year, the computer was right.
Yeah, no, the only time I've, like, gotten mad with Art was a couple years ago. Like, ESPN was like, he gets credit for being a noisy player.
So, for the whole next year, I didn't talk to the media once. Luckily, they didn't find me, but I didn't say shit.
I didn't – Wow. What does that mean, noisy player? Yeah.
He gets credit for talking a lot. That's crazy.
Well, if you're in the media, you should want guys like that. Yeah.
Yeah, like ESPN should want people talking. Well, fuck, I didn't think I was.
I mean, yeah, I talked a lot of shit way back in 17 when I made some stupid comments. Well, no, by the way, we made those comments.
You got screwed by us, which is a testament that you still come on with us because we played that back.

We basically said, like, isn't it more fun to play for the Eagles?

And then everyone just took it and we're like, Lane Johnson would rather win one Super Bowl with the Eagles.

Six years later, whatever it is.

So that was our fault.

I'm sorry about all the nasty things I said, Patriots Nation.

I was an undisciplined child whose tongue got the best of me.

Even if you had said that, what's the big deal with saying that?

Like, we had fun.

Yeah.

They probably had fun, too, putting the rings on, but I don't know.

It was probably because the first time we've done it,

and who's this guy to say anything about having a championship mentality

when all he has is one?

Hey, we still only have one.

Listen, I had to eat some crow,. Listen, if I won a Super Bowl.

I had to eat some crow, but hey, it didn't taste too bad.

It was our fault, though.

If I won a Super Bowl, I'd just talk shit for an entire year.

I'd probably retire.

If I was a rookie and won a Super Bowl, see ya.

Yeah, until you get home and your fucking Meemaw's there.

Damn, those bucks beat the shit out of you, didn't they, baby?

Big Cat's computer was right.

You're super ass.

This fucking woman, I'm going back i'm

playing next year you're not retiring after this game that'd be fun well not funny but if you just waited till like preseason game one and then retired that would be funny it's just yeah you gotta let the guys upstairs know yeah yeah yeah yeah so so coming into this year after being super ass last year when did you realize that you were no longer super-ass? Probably after about four wins, after we started 2-2. But those games, like, you know, the Falcons game was very close.
One against Washington was really close there. So, I mean, everything was really competitive for the most part.
But we found a way to get out of our own way and fucking hand the ball to Saquon and score some touchdowns. Yeah.
And that Bucs game at the end of September, you guys – I think that was the last time you guys lost a game that Jalen played the full game. Yeah.
So you guys ripped off a ton of wins, whereas, like, yeah, now they're healthy, they're ready to go. Yeah.
I mean, that's part of it. And, you know, earlier parts of the season, I mean, you don't know what you don't know as far as running play-wise, so you've got to see what the team's most comfortable running, and after a few weeks you kind of find out what you're doing.
Yeah. Is there a moment in a game where you just know that, like, the defensive line is so gassed and you're like, this fucking rocks? Like, they're done.
They're cooked. Yeah, when we're running it, like, especially like four minutes, we're trying to run the clock out we they know we're running it and we have to get a new fresh down so we can you know nail it or take it down so yeah what was that was it the ravens or the steelers game where you guys had the ball for like might have been might have been steelers yeah 14 minutes but it was a battle i mean tj's out there just fucking yeah you know bringing hell on earth but their whole i feel like that game physically was probably the most, like, tired I was all season.
You guys ran a drive that I think was like 15 plays, 11 minutes. But we actually threw the ball a lot that game, too.
Yeah. So we were, yeah.
You got Cam Hayward and Herbig and Highsmith. So pretty good.
Yeah. Really good.
Yeah. I went back and looked at some of the stats because we always talk about Dan Campbell as being like the fourth down guy or Dan Quinn too sometimes.
It's like the Dans are known for being super aggressive on fourth down. Yeah.
Your coach, Nick Sirianni, is right up there with anybody. And he actually, if you look at when he goes for it, I think he's secretly a nerd.
I think he knows like he's got the analytics he knows the numbers and percentages so like does he communicate that to you like here are the exact scenarios where we're going to end up going for it yeah well i think this analytics their purpose is to be there for those when those calls come up so i feel like they do a good job communicating um especially when the call's up headset hey let's go let's make that decision And sometimes it risky but hey that's what makes it fun yeah yeah you know and it's got to be until you lose but yeah and you can also do the tush push twice in a row if it's like third and five yeah just do it twice and get a first down we should do it first down yeah do you think do you think you go up and down the entire field just tush pushing like if you had to if you had to Let let's say aj uh he like he dropped the guys in just doing a line just a rotation but yeah yeah i feel i feel like you could if you had to ball that's what else will start a tush push bowl yeah that's all you can do that's all that's all you can do oh um all right so i told you before the backstory of this video I'm going to play you. We went out to dinner on Monday night.
All like a bunch of people. I took a bunch of people out, 25 of us in a room.
25 bar guys? Barstool people. Okay.
Yep. Two women.
It was a big moment. Yeah, it was a big moment.
Two women. Yeah, two women.
It was a great ratio. So we played a game where we put everyone's name in a hat, and we pulled the names out, and if your name got pulled, you had to give a speech.
And we did this for, I don't know, probably like nine or ten people. First nine people, like all their speeches were really heartfelt, like love barstool, love like this is a dream job love everyone in this room yeah just real nice

stuff just pouring their hearts out yeah right we're all little drunk sappy stuff then max is

the 10th person and uh he decided to just give a pump-up speech for the eagles so i want i want i want you to i'm gonna play it and then you tell me how you feel about max's pump-up speech okay However, every single person could say that they were bested by Patrick Mahal.

Yes, yes.

Every team in the NFL could say that. However, it only takes one night to beat Patrick Mahal.
Yeah. Why not this Sunday night? Yeah.
Why not? We have the better trenches. Yeah.
We have the better running back. Yeah.
We have the better defense. Yeah.
At the end of the day, defense wins champion. Yeah.
Right? So Sunday night, we will fight, and the Philadelphia Eagles will return as Super Bowl champ. Let me get a go, Bird.
This is a room full of people that don't care about the Eagles. To the room that fucking hates the Eagles, but I thought it was crisp.

There was no stutters.

It was right to the point.

A little too many years, however.

I was rambling.

It's fine.

I thought the pauses were good.

He's like, we got the better trenches.

And then people were like, amen.

He was educating them.

Yeah.

On Sunday night.

And he didn't know cameras were rolling or anything.

I wonder where he got the hand gestures from.

I'm an Italian guy.

I'm an Italian guy.

I'm not going to. I'm an Italian guy.
Damn. We're going to meet these guys.
I'll send you the video. So if you want to play it for the boys on Sunday before the game, get fired up.
All right, Brian, retweeted from the camera. Max felt like he was playing in the game.
Yeah, no, no.

This week is a work week.

This week is a week to win the Super Bowl.

Business trip.

It's a business trip.

But like Sunday is the business trip.

I feel like they should do like for each team,

if there's like a two-point conversion,

they should have some random fan called out of a section.

You have to be the tailback and you're getting the ball.

I like that.

I'm in.

I'm training. So everybody can kind of be on watch.
Yeah. You know? All right, so Max, you got a question? Yes, I have two questions, actually.
First question. You've been mentioning him a little bit today.
I've been wondering this. What makes Coach Stoutland the best offensive line coach in the NFL? Because I feel like he's getting these guys and he's, like, resurrecting careers here in Philly that other teams just aren't doing.
Yeah, he knows. I mean, obviously he knows football in and out, but I felt like he's interested in, like, how people learn.
So he knows that, like, we learn visually. So we can accomplish, like, a lot more doing, like, walk-through stuff versus, like, a 30-minute walk-through willthrough will beat a two-hour you know classroom section you know covering fucking charles dickens tell two cities type shit so that's how it seems to me and he makes and so he understands that but he's just really when we go in there it's like pop quiz time every time he asks guys what three plays do we have out of this formation of fred johnson and he what he asks he asks the question and he points out who he's going to ask it to after but that's like every day and he's like yeah we're going to find out who knows this shit in here well hey i guess we are yeah seems like the best good question all right second question how does brandon graham look in practice is he going to be full go on sunday he looks good he He looks like what's the guy in Scary Movie 3 that passed the mashed potatoes with that fucking arm? Hey, he'll be jabbing.
He'll be club ripping with that fucking thing. He's ready to go.
All right, love that. I know he used it on me.
Let's go. Let's go.
I love that. I love that.
You got a feeling. All right, that's all I got.
All right, good job, Max. And then, wait, hold on.
You know what? I'm going to try to call the fake Lynn Johnson real quick. Let's just see.
It'd be so funny if you picked up. Goddamn it, I told you, son.
This ain't him. You want to leave a message? No, he's definitely, I feel like he hung up on me there.
Or send him a voice memo. Yeah.
I used to have that number. I back for it one day.
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So Roan and Max are going. They went together to the Super Bowl in 2022.
They're going again on Sunday. Hopefully you'll see them later that night.
We already told Big Dom, hey, look out for him. So I overextended myself in a similar way that Max did, and I sent you a DM on Sunday.
I'm going to read it out loud. Brother.
You don't have my number either you are a beast what you're able to do day in and day out is legendary others rise and fall you are the mountain year after year you are that motherfucker no one wants to see you impose your will be great spotter will not fall i like that man that was awesome when we're doing this interview you just realize that you just sent that to brian it's a funny story i guess grant um we both went to you for a little bit before we went to smu but he was i guess hitting me up that summer about uh you know can't wait to see you in philly be teammates or whatever so i guess brian like texting him a few times back and forth. First day to come in the locker room, I guess, hitting me up that summer about, you know, can't wait to see you in Philly, be teammates or whatever.
So I guess Brian, like, texting him a few times back and forth. First day he'd come in the locker room, I just fucking breezed past him.
Like, who the fuck are you? And he thought he had to talk to you. Yeah, and he's like, bro, you're a fucking dick.
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Same situation. Hey, it haunts me.
Here it comes again. Well, the only question is, like, how did that land? Do you know what I mean? Did you get fired up from that? What kind of stuff do you like to hear from fans that fires you up? You know what I mean? How can we serve you? We can cater this.
Yeah, we can do whatever you want, bro. What do you like to hear? Man, I see everything you said as passion and all that energy, and hopefully in some way it can radiate to me and I can use it for the benefit of this Eagles team.
Yeah, I'm just trying to put some battery in the back. I'm just trying to put some gas in the tank.
But my X's and O's question is, so you look at the Lions this year and you see the crazy installs that they do. They have like Penes who will get in the ball and stuff like that.
As an athletic guy, is there any part of you that's like, hey, it'd be cool if I, you know what I mean, we get a swing pass to me or are you just happy? You better be at the goal line for that. No, I would like to have where I could just fucking launch this bitch across the field to AJ.
Hopefully it's not into fucking a safety that's going to pick it. You used to play quarterback.
That's what I'm saying. I would love to just, that's my last shot.
And just fling it. You still got the cannon? Yeah, it was.
I don't know what they call it now, but if I can, we'll see. I'm ready for it, bro.'m ready for it bro let's go i love that i like i like calling them a mountain stands the test of time mountains don't go anywhere yeah um have you seen what they've done in china yeah i'm joking i'm joking oh well lane best of luck man we really appreciate you uh coming on i fucking hate how much i love the eagles like they're you guys are great i have to hate you but you and big dom make it very difficult yeah big dom yeah he's got to get in this chair we're coming we're coming for uh so you can't retire because we're coming for training camp we're gonna do grit week we're gonna get big dom on we'll all go out to dinner so we're pumped for that he.
He's the best. Like I said, he's been in years of obscurity.
But, yeah, we've known about this national treasure for – Yeah. He's got a stack of cannolis in his office? His office has.
If there's an earthquake in Philly, he's fucked because he has just all the history of the eagles on the wall in his office, everything. Cannolis everywhere.
Cannolis, yeah, everything they send, they just pile his desk up with shit.

Have you ever seen him not in a track suit?

No.

He said he had 100.

He said he just pared it down.

I've never seen his legs.

Hey, this motherfucker could have steel legs like the two of Dan,

and I wouldn't know because I haven't seen them.

He's had 131 track suits.

He's got formal ones.

He's got casual ones.

I've never seen him in a track meet.

Is he fucking, is he throwing the shot? Yeah, he said he was like, I cleaned out my closet. I'm down to 131 tracksuits.
He actually said he went to Penn State originally. Yeah.
So he was the ball player himself. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Well, Lane, best of luck, man. You know, really appreciate you coming on.
Future Hall of Famer. Yeah, man.
Let's get the win, man. Let's make this weekend complete, man.
Super Bowl MVP. Let's go, man.
This is the tiebreaker for you. Yeah, man.
This is the tiebreaker. It's just like I said to Roan.
Hey, we got to get this energy going. Yeah.
Yes. LFG, let's go.
Roan will pump you up. Roan will get you going.
And we'll see you text, but just text it to Brian. Or give my number from Big Cat now.
You get my wrong number from Big Cat. Yeah, I'll give you the wrong way.
Let's go pump him up some more. This guy's going to be so mad.
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And now, here's a good friend, Jameis Winston. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, recurring guest.
It is Jameis Winston, live and in the flesh in New Orleans, his city. Can we say New Orleans is your city? It is.
We can say that my family, definitely. Okay, yeah.
So you've still got your house here. It's going to be incredible Super Bowl week.
You're doing some stuff for Fox, which I'm very excited to see because it feels like we need more Jameis Winston in our life. And you're going to give it to the people, I'd assume.
Absolutely. We're going to have some fun.
But it's just going to be showing people the culture of the amazing New Orleans. Like it's gumbo.
Gumbo is popular here for a reason. I'm going to give them a little bit of everything but I love it.
I'm trying to eat 15 gumbos in the time that I'm here. So I've already had one.
We'll leave it on Friday or Saturday. So I'm trying to figure out the best places to go.
So if you've got any recommendations, like lay them on us. Cause I love gumbo.
I had to put a list to you. Uh, but if you, one of my favorite spots is best B spot.
It's like Beyonce inspired. I got to get the street for you, but if you, one of my favorite spots is B-Spot.
It's like Beyonce inspired.

I gotta get the street for you.

But if you're gonna be having 15 gumbos,

we gotta make sure we get you cup-sized.

Because they're very filling. But I think with anybody,

Herb's saying as well, when I think about food,

but when I think with anybody saying,

what can I get the best gumbo, they're gonna say,

my grandma house.

I'll eat at a grandma's house.

If there's any AWLs that have a grandma

that actually will sit down

Thank you. can I get the best gumbo? They're going to say, my grandma house.
Yeah. I'll eat at a grandma's house.
Oh, yeah. If there's any AWLs that have a grandma that actually will sit down and make the room.
I got a cousin on the West Bank and she makes the best gumbo I ever had. You might have to do that.
So I will definitely get you a bowl because she knows that Super Bowl is a big week and it's Mardi Gras season. Yeah.
So a bunch of gumbo being made right now. Yeah, we're very excited for you because this is a great thing I think that Fox is doing, is bringing Jameis Winston on.
You're going to take people around, show them some food and things like that. What other stuff are you going to do this week? How are they going to be using you? Well, for the most part, it's going to be a bunch of lifestyle pieces.
I'm just going to get a chance to show everybody the culture that New Orleans has. We're going to go to Cafe Du Monde.
We're going to do a nice segment there.

When you think about coffee and beignets, you think about that spot off the rip.

So what I'm doing, I'm going to give them the best human experience they possibly can

have in the city of New Orleans.

I believe that you will be able to do that.

Yes, absolutely.

All right, so let's talk about this past year.

When we've last had you on, you were a free agent.

Signed with the Browns.

You get to play.

We thought you should have played more.

How was this season overall in your career?

I mean, we need you to get signed somewhere.

We need you to be a starting quarterback because the Jameis Winston experience

is our favorite thing.

You had that big snow game that was so much fun to watch.

How overall, though, would you say this season went for you personally you personally professionally and where you're at going into next season uh let's start with personally uh just because i think like i can get sometimes so wrapped up into what i do that we kind of speed past like the whole experience like that you actually had yeah the presence of actually being in the cle Browns organization witnessing some of the things that I witnessed going through some of the things that I went through uh so personally I would say that it was a a season of resilience because we had some unfortunate injuries uh we had some people that um that I poured myself into because my expectation going to Clevelandveland was to be there to to serve dashawn and be there to provide this uh support and um and leadership for him and uh and it hurt to see him go down quickly and then the way that people reacted of him going down like me being the person that i am i had to recalibrate some things and have a complete paradigm shift because of the um the love that I have for him and also the love that I and respect that I have for the game and that city that I just chose to go to right uh so that was that was challenging because uh football gives us so much uh I mean shoot it's giving me everything that I can even dream or imagine. But that moment where I had to get just real, like, from a human experience with, like, some fans, the people that I love the most, the people I like making smile, and that just hurt because we all are humans.
We all have this experience. We all have ups and downs and I think we all are trying to find a way to cope with those days and that day wasn't a good day and that was kind of like a precursor to the season.
Right. You know what I'm saying? Because what I was looking forward to was getting that opportunity, being back on the field and we had some wins wins early.
But at the end of the day, like, I didn't finish. Yeah.
I didn't finish the way that I wanted to finish. I didn't have the story, like, that we all wanted at the end.
So that's how I was personally. But the whole process of being with Cleveland Browns was amazing because this was the first time my family got up and moved out of the South.
So we were in Cleveland, and Cleveland was way better than what we expected. Obviously, we knew it was going to be gritty.
We were going to see a lot of iron and steel. But being from Birmingham, I figured that's how the terrain would be.
But the place that we stayed, it was in Chagrin Falls, man. Beautiful place, yeah.
Bro, for a good 90 days, we experienced some of the most beautiful weather that you only could imagine. So it was good for my family in that end.
But football-wise, man, I'm still focusing on eliminating one thing from my play so that I can be all that I'm capable of being in this league yes I like the new personality stuff yes I like hopping on with y'all but where I want to be in this league is somewhere where the greats stand and for me to be where the greats stand I have to consistently execute and eliminate one thing from my play and that's just fun fun. It's another resilient side to like, hey, man, like you got LASIK now.
You know what I'm saying? What else do we have to do? What else do we have to learn? What else do we have to overcome or take out for us to be everything that we want to be? Lord, deliver me from pick sixes. And the Lord did.
Yeah, I know. I was just saying, were you, so you said that after a game where you had, I mean, I think it was one or two pick sixes.
It was the Monday night game. Yeah, it was two.
And then the next game, you didn't throw a pick six. Were you like, oh shit, God, he's got me here.
Absolutely. I know he had me off the rip.
When I say that publicly, that outward confession, like that really was like a, obviously it was funny, but it was a cry. I was like, Lord, like, hey.
Like, I know he had me off the rip. When I say that publicly, that outward confession, that really was like a, obviously it was funny,

but it was a cry.

I was like, Lord, hey, I need you.

Stop these pick sixes.

Unfortunately, I should have, honestly,

that's why it's so important to be impeccable with your word.

I should have said picks.

Yeah, I know.

Because he gave you the pick sixes.

And I promise you, in my quiet place, I promise you I'm saying picks. He works in mysterious ways.
Maybe it just makes you better at tackling. So when you do throw an interception, you knock the guy out.
He doesn't score. You're like, I should have specified, Lord.
I'm sorry. Bro, I'm tired of tackling.
You know what I'm saying? I didn't have to tackle too many people. But that game was – And also, I mean, that game, like, that was like, we should have Jameis play Monday Night Football all-time quarterback because it was electric.
I know that it was the pick sixes, but you also made some insane throws. You had, what, 500 yards passing? Yeah, I'm grateful for that.
But, you know, Sean Payne was on the other side. A young Bo Nix from Alabama.
Like, he was the opposing quarterback. Like, in my documentary, like, that was supposed to be the time where I'm like, Michael Jordan standing right there because I got Sean Payne, a young buck that I always love watching him grow up.
I mean, he was in Alabama. He won a state championship.
I never won a state championship being from Alabama. Seeing him go to Auburn, he was the kid that went to the hometown school, got to experience all this stuff and went off to Oregon.
And now he's having an amazing year. So I'm just like, I got to show this young buck a lesson.
So I'm happy that he had a game. He had that rope to Mims down the middle of the field.
So I'm like, okay, I want you to do something good. But we also got Jared Judy back coming back to this town.
And Sean Payne's on the other side. I want to give it to them.
You know what I'm saying? Pause. But I want to make sure that we win this game.
And that's obviously the's obviously the love and the preparation that goes into that. Like, you obviously can see that competitive side between me, Sean, and Bo.
But I think winning is the biggest thing. Like, when you're at quarterback, I think that's so important.
Like, yeah, you have some turnovers here. Yeah, you have some ups and downs.
But eliminating negative plays and winning, it takes you so far. Because, man, I had the best four weeks of my life just talking to more people, getting those interviews just because you're winning.
Not because you're having lights out games, but winning. For the record, James, we'll talk to you whenever.
Whenever, yeah, it doesn't matter. You go in 17, you're on the show.
100%. I'm grateful for that.
But, you you know what I'm saying? Like, this is my dream. Yeah.
You know, like football, like football is, I'm so grateful that God has given me this sport to steward with what I got, you know? And I want to be the most at it. Yeah.
Be the best at it. Yeah.
Lord, glory from picks. That Thursday night game that Big Cat brought up in the snow, that was a lot of fun to watch too.
It was. And seeing – I forget, was it Tracy Wolfson? It was somebody that was interviewing you in the pregame.
And they start talking to you about the snow, and you were locked in very serious, and then all of a sudden, it's like something hit you, and you just got this big smile, and you started looking around at the snow. It's like you got transformed and turned into – I don't know if it just took you to a different place mentally where it woke you up, but watching you just embrace that environment on that Thursday night and go out there and play an excellent game of football was so much fun for America to watch.
Yeah, you know, I have to commend the NFL for their deal with the broadcasting networks to have that segment now because that was relatively new to me. Typically, when I go back into the locker room, I'm getting ready.
I'm focusing. I'm going over my notes.
I'm going over my plays, and I'm putting myself in the place that I think that I need to be for this game. So when I was having those interviews with Tracy and others, I was already getting to that place.
I was already getting to that place of just presence and preparing for the game. So for me to come back out and just be like, okay, now I got to talk about who knows what you're going to ask.
Like, I already know what the notes that I'm going over in my head. So I'm going to repeat those to you because that's the mode that I'm on.
I think I rewarded them with some wise words. Yeah, it was great.
So you had never played in the snow before in your entire life? Never in my entire life. What was it like? It was fun.
Like, I think it's like any kid that experiences snow for the first time. Like, you don't know what to do, right? Like, you really don't know how to build a snowman.
You know what I'm saying? I'm happy YouTube is available because that was one of the first things. Like, I didn't know how to build a snowman you know i'm saying you want like i'm happy with youtube is available because that was one of the first things like i didn't know how to build a snowman like it was it was awful like because i tried to build the snow while it was fresh yeah you know i'm saying like and that's another that's a story for another day pack it in yeah literally like i was so enamored with the snow that i was just like man like can i just like do we have to play yeah you know what i'm saying like can we play a snow like but but we did we did play a snow version of football but yeah it was it was amazing it was so hot so it was so cold your helmet exploded yeah that was crazy my head hit the ground yeah frozen tundra frozen not the frozen tundra, I guess, but the frozen Cleveland Browns.
Browns. Wait, so did you build the snowman? So let me tell you about the story about the snowman.
I actually didn't even build the snowman in Cleveland. Oh.
I built the snow in New Orleans. You did when it snowed here? Yes, when it snowed here.
Mm-hmm. Right? So during Cleveland, when it snowed, like I was away from my babies.

My babies were like they were at school.

We didn't have time throughout the day where it still was like to go outside and build the snow.

Right. But God bless us with snow in New Orleans.

So I'm outside there trying to build a snow like in my kid.

Oh, my baby, he's suffering because we didn't have like the we had all of had all of our waterproof, like, material up in Cleveland. Right.
Like, we just got him some gloves from Costco, and we just, like, these are going to work. My poor four-year-old, like, he got just shivering in the snow because he's trying to – we obviously having a snowball fight.
Like, the Winston's going to have this. But the snow, like, these aren't waterproof gloves, so they're freezing his hands.
So after one good snowball fight, like, the Winston's like, we in trouble, right?

So we're trying to make the snow.

And right now, like, I'm just making a whole circle in the snow.

I'm just, like, putting snow together.

But it was like a blizzard snow.

It wasn't like it had stopped.

Like, typically, people build snowmen, like, when the snow stops and the snow horns up and you can, like, get it on the ground. So I'm trying to build a snowman, and I just did an awful job.
And it rained in Alabama. My assistant, Nadia, she showed me a picture of her snowman.
And she had my trainer, my famous trainer, Otis Leverett, his wife, the one who does all the position-specific workouts. So they had his football helmet on, had a glove on, like a stick that they had.
They had one of her scarves on. So it was a good-looking snowman.
I have to show y'all this so y'all can have this clip. Yeah.
So I was looking at my snowman, and it just looked like a snow heel. And it just kept, like, it not good you put eyes on it i did put eyes on it so my my cousin again she she gave my wife like my wife went over to get some gumbo because she prepared us but she was like you can't be in the snow without no gumbo yeah so she went over there get the gumbo and she gave us a fake carrots nose and some things to put on the snowman because she knew that we were going to build a luxurious snowman.
She didn't know that I had no idea how to build a snowman. And I'm calling Nadia.
I'm like, Nadia, like, my babies, they're going to laugh at me because I don't know how to build no snowman. YouTube, I got this Wi-Fi not working.
I can't look it up on YouTube. Like, ChatGPT ain't working.
So I'm just like, how am I going to build build a snow. She said, just build a ball and just roll it in the snow.
Do you know, I was, I almost had frostbite trying to roll that ball in the snow because it was too soft. It kept coming off.
And I couldn't build a snow. My child, he just looking at me, like my oldest, Malachi, he just looking at me like, I can't even tell my friends I can build a snowman because you don't know how to build a snowman.
I'm like, well, you're supposed to be helping me. All right.
So you got to so that's something we got to still check off the list. Yes.
Maybe if you get signed. So what are we thinking? I mean, there's got to be people who want James Winston.
You have to stay in the league. You have to.
I want you starting. Yeah.
You need to start. Yeah.
That's what my heart desires. Like, obviously, I'm looking for an opportunity where it's kind of like bridge opportunity where I get to go in there, lead another young guy and man, go in there, have opportunity dominate where I'm supposed to dominate, win some football games and have a GM and have an organization that hey, man, we believe in you, Jameis.
But I need that opportunity to show that. Because that's why I feel like I'm in that position again where I have to get in that have to get in that position and show that.
Yeah, because, like, your game is not, you know, there's a lot of backups in the league where they come in and it's a lot of checkdowns. It's a lot of, like, hey, we're going to just, you know, try to tread water.
You push the ball down the field. You're making the throws.
And that's always what's so fun when you get in. Like, I even think about that Ravens game where you're throwing the ball down the and you beat a really good Ravens defense.
Come on. That's stuff that I can do in my sleep.
The biggest thing is winning. You know what I'm saying? I try to shift away from the interceptions because those matter, but those also accumulate to not winning.
So whatever I need to do that's required to win and be focused on winning, if that's going 20 for 28 for 17 yards, one touchdown, and no interceptions but a win, like that's doing it. You know, whatever is required for us to win the game is like my focus because obviously I get hyped up and i play so much trust into my teammates into my coaches and we're out there executing this thing together but at the end of the day the quarterback position i got the last say so yeah that peel in my hand do you have you thought about uh if you do throw a pick maybe bringing back the squint and being like people like oh the las the LASIK maybe isn't working anymore.
It gives you, buys you a little time. Yeah.
Well, I try to eliminate any thoughts about picks. Okay.
You know what I'm saying? I shouldn't even say the word. And focus just on winning every single rep.
Yeah, yeah. You know, like, because I try to create humor with the picks, right? Like, hey, like, it's still a completion.
Yeah. Not really.
Well, listen, I just played the video game, which I brought up to you last time, how I might have thrown some picks with you when I played the video game back in 2020, but I just played a full college football playoff, and I threw nine pick sixes in four games. Wow.
Yeah. Well, not with me, though, right? We're eliminating that.
No, not with you. Not with you, but I'm just saying

still won the national title, so you can

still find a way to win. You can.

But all that matters is winning.

And that's you playing the game. So maybe

when you're playing the game,

start visualizing me.

And record me doing that.

Winning the Super Bowl.

That's what got me.

Because I won so many Heisman trophies, so many national championships on NCAA when it was out. Yeah.
You know, I never really played Madden that much. We got to get it.
We should start playing Madden. Like, literally.
Visualizing it. We'll record the entire season.
You better ask my wife. Like, I got Madden.
Yeah. Like, and I'm visualizing.
And like, my brother is whooping my butt religiously in Madden every time I get on the sticks. Have you thought about doing the VR thing, virtual reality? Man, so I've experienced that, what Jaden was doing.
So I experienced that. I'm curious to see what brand he had.
It's a German company. Okay.
Yeah, I don't know the name of the brand, but they found him at Louisiana. They were trying to sell their technology to any school that wanted it, and LSU was like, yeah, we want this.
So I don't know if it's like an exclusive thing that he gets. I don't know what it is, but it seems like it's a great idea.
You get all those reps in. I remember when I first got to the Saints, I believe they tried to bring that to us, and they talked about building.
I think they were going to build a room for that because they had it. had it in in louisiana but we we should have did at lsu we should have did it yeah like uh but i believe uh i believe at tampa we did an experience like that where i did have some virtual reality um related training uh at tampa early on in my career uh but i'm sure that the it's better yeah that's what i've than now.
I would love to see what kind of training exercises you can come up with while wearing the virtual reality helmet too. Me too.
At Cleveland, we had some type of virtual reality type sensors, but it was not like I wasn't immersed in the game. It was like Tecmo Bowl players moving around, like slow motion.
Yeah, we got to get you on the good stuff. Like this is not going to work.
Yeah, if you're a German VR company listening to this right now, you have a potential client here in James Winston that we would like to see. Whatever's required.
We were talking to Andrew Luck earlier today, and he had very nice things to say about you. And he asked us to ask you about how close you were to going to Stanford.
Man, I was very close to going to Stanford in my mind, right? Like, Stanford was the dream school that I've always thought that I would be at playing baseball and football at, because you just think about John Elway, right? So academically and football, athletically, I thought that was the epitome of going somewhere and playing football. But I knew that I could not be that far away from Alabama.
So Stanford, Florida State, and LSU were my options. They were my final options.
I wanted to go to Texas. I feel like Texas Longhorns.
I feel like that would have fit me well. I even had this – my mama got me this fossil Texas watch because I told her that's the school I wanted to go to.
It's cool. I still had a watch to this day.
But back to Stanford. Stanford was – would have been an excellent opportunity for me because Nora Davis was there.
Andrews Pete, Aziz Chazur, he was there. So like I built some great relationships with some of the recruits that still were there.
So I really was close to going. If I would have had the courage to take that trip out west.
Yeah. It's a long distance to go, for sure.
Well, it was, like, more of a dream. Like, when I went out there on my official visit, Coach David Shaw was there.
I got a chance speak with uh condoleezza rice yeah like the experience was uh unmatched what was that like talking to condoleezza rice uh well it was it was amazing uh just to to get a chance to to know that she was from alabama you know i didn't get a chance to have a meeting with her like face to face uh but having to be able to speak with her and hearing them talk about how her office had only looked some place uh on the campus uh i think that was that was amazing yeah yeah how how was the were you injured at the end of the year we we just kept on being like put james back in i know that the last couple of games they gave other guys a shot but how how is the injury now now? It's good. I did something to my SC joint, and that's kind of like my inner collarbone.
Because of the callus of my AC joint, I require movement from there in a way. So for a period of time, it was very challenging for me to throw the ball.
And if you can't throw the ball elite in the NFL, it's just – it's not really going to work out. So it was after the Kansas City game.
So I'm good now. Like I can spin it.
Okay. So, yeah.
When does that happen in the NFL? When do teams start to reach out to you? I think – I don't want to get you in trouble. I think the period is going on, not now, but I think as agents are talking about other prospects getting into the league, especially the draft, senior bowls, the strong bowl, I believe they strategically placing in some of their free agents for this upcoming year.
But I believe it starts when you're really released, like the first part of March. Yeah.
So I'll just say some cities. I think we might have done this last time.
But just cities, random cities. And you tell me what you think about each city.
New York City. Or I guess northern New Jersey, but really New York City.
I mean, I love it. The Big Apple.
Yeah. Is it big? Is it giant? Is it the giant apple? Yeah, or would you fly there on a jet? I love it.
I would do both. Okay, okay.
That actually would be awesome if you were the quarterback of both teams. I would fly on a jet and eat an apple.
A giant apple. What about Pittsburgh? I know they were kind of a rival city to Cleveland, but what about Pittsburgh? What's your vibe there? Man, I love Pittsburgh because I admire Coach Mike Tomlin so much.
The first Super Bowl ring that I ever held in my hand was a 2009 Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl ring from Bruce Arians. So that is definitely aligned with my vision.
But I don't know what my Browns fans say about Pittsburgh. That'll be challenging, but it really doesn't matter.
Honestly, that opportunity presents itself. Yeah, I would love to team up with Coach Mike Thomas.
What about – and I know we want you to be a starter, but there are some teams that it feels like maybe they should invest more in a backup. What about Miami? You like that city? Man, I would love Miami.
And you know what? Again, back to my whole Cleveland Browns story, right? Just how it was. Like, how about Tyler Huntley? I'm just going to give him a shout-out, man, because he was with – like, that was the quarterback room in Cleveland.
Tyler Huntley, Dorian Thomas Robinson, Deshaun, and myself, right? That was a training camp. And for him to have a situation where he and Dorian are competing and to stay present and go back to Baltimore and then go to Miami, where he's from down South Florida, that area, and play some good games for Miami.
I'm so proud of him for that. But Miami would be good because I got a lot of respect for Tua and his family.
And if there's one man that I would like to serve, it would be him and his family because his dad and my dad have developed a great relationship. So I'm definitely pulling for him and his health to remain strong and to remain in a healing state because he works a lot to stay healthy.
And he's a tough player. So he's going to be good.
But I would like to go to Miami. Okay.
What about? How about Nashville? Country music guy? Nashville. Man, listen.
Cowboy boots? I do love country music. Back to the days when Jay Owen and Luke Bryan used to come and visit Tallahassee.
I've always had that southern drawl to be able to break down a country music album soon. You would make so much money from cmt if you were in nashville you think so you would be a correspondent yeah immediately man i i would love i would love it nashville nashville is it's pretty cool yeah yeah what about uh playing baseball man if if i can get colorado rock signed up man i gotta call my guy david doll like He played for the Colorado Rockies.
But wherever. Have you thought about maybe doing a spring training? I know that that kind of conflicts with where you're going to sign, but I'd love to see you back on our Facebook page.
Yeah, I would love to have that opportunity, but when my focus is focused on football and OTAs and whatever's required in it, I don't believe that I will be able to. But, man, I can just go to the band cages somewhere down to the Yankees in Tampa Bay and just hit some BP there.
Have you done batting practice against 95-mile-an-hour fastballs since you got LASIK? I have not. Oh.
What if you're Barry Bonds and you don't even know it? Man, I'm definitely not Barry Bonds. But what if? Yeah, because you're a righty.
That's right. That's true.
You might be Shohei except better. Like if he was also a great football player.
So I trained baseball last year. Like I literally, my brother's hand coach, his name is, man, it's removing right now.
But my brother's head coach, who is a scout for the Atlanta Braves, we actually trained for the first five weeks after the Super Bowl. Every Thursday we hand ground balls.
We were over at Gerard Park in New Orleans, hand in the cages, like training, like catching fly balls, fiddling ground balls, because I think that is a direct correlation to playing the quarterback. When you see how Patrick Mahomes does it and Josh Allen, how they come up from these different angles, even Jalen, and his RPO games, being able to throw from different angles is so important.
And being able to squat down and move around the pocket, you see how extending the play is as big as it's ever been in the NFL nowadays. Like, if you can't extend a play, like, from a regular routine play, like, you're going to have a tough time.
Yeah. Yeah.
What about right here, New Orleans? Got a house here. Oh, my gosh.
I would love to be here. Just.
Family? Not just family. Like, just this city, man.
You I and I that's why early I didn't say it. I don't feel worthy enough to say this is my city because this is Drew Brees City.
Yeah. You know, because because what he did for the city with this champagne champagne city, this is Mickey Loomis City.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I had to put Mickey out there because Mickey, Mickey, if you listen to this, I will.
But, no, like, I would love to be a New Orleans Saint, man, because, like, just even the energy here. Yeah.
Like, it's the same energy that I possess. Yeah.
And I love my people. So, I ain't going to say, you know, they my family.
Like, these my people down here. And you can see it.
You're going to definitely see it on Fox.

You're going to see me with my people.

In a word, you know what I'm saying, in a word of something,

a Baton Rouge legend with it, you know what I'm saying.

I got my people with me.

Do you visualize where you're going to be next at your next stop in life?

Like, do you sit down, close your eyes, and let the vision come to you?

Man, I'm still – honestly, my visualization and desire is still with being a Super Bowl winning quarterback for an NFL franchise, you know, and that's where I am. There are times where, in my quiet time, where I think about, you know, what my heart would desire, and one of those things right now is just becoming a better father to my children.
My oldest is about to be seven now. And me and my dad always discuss how the age of seven would be that time where I would have to bunker down, put more intentional time into leading my son to what his heart desires.
Because he felt like my aunt, she always told me that the age of seven is when the kids, they lose their subconscious and they start to really take in every word that you say and they start making decisions on their own. So when I'm in my quarantine, that's the thing is I'm thinking about, like, man, how can I serve my son who's about to be seven because I know it's his own time.
Like, I can't be like when he cries, like I can't be like, oh, baby, like I i'm gonna be pushing him yeah to the limit you know but also loving him and got him yeah but is that true about the age seven yeah uh i mean i know there are a lot of uh pediatricians out there or people that process this information i think the age seven i don't know the scientific term whether they lose their subconscious but seven is a prominent age for child development and in terms of how they think how they learn and how they go about so i got like another year and a half that i can keep swearing around my oldest yes okay then i gotta stop yes because i do i do find myself having to well you just gotta develop a swear jar well no my problem is my my kids when they repeat swears i laugh yeah and then they're like why he's laughing i'm like because you shouldn't be saying that and then they're like he's laughing so then they they keep hitting the fuck or the shit button and i'm just like laughing i'm like no stop saying that but i'm laughing my wife would be mad at me because she did an experiment uh to just see uh how how far our children would go uh with uh with those words And it wasn't the experiment that we thought that we were going to begin. We realized that our children, they do listen to us.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. My son thinks stupid is a bad word.
He's like, don't say the S word. I'm like, shit? And he's like, no, stupid.
Oh, whoops. Now we got two that we got to work about.
Right. All right.
So we got to find your job. Here's an idea.
What if Jameis1 of 1 became your agent? I think you'd probably get a max deal. Man, listen.
I don't know Jameis1 of 1, but I really appreciate him. Yeah.
The time. He's fighting every day.
The energy that he puts into repping me. If you are my long lost cousin or something, man or something man brother i love you i do imagine one day you'll meet him and he'll just be like hey i'm just no i know i am but but like this i feel it like you gotta have people that fight for you yeah like that like in in and i not view it from a turn just my prayer angels uh i have so have so many women in Tampa, Miss Connie, my mentor, Cynthia Hobney, my auntie, Aunt Vonda, my mother, my aunts.
That's Loretta White, Auntie Bernice. I have so many prayer warriors that are showering me with prayer, lifting me up all the time.
So I don't want their prayers to go as they're unnoticed. But when you have people that fight for you and that lift you up and that are there to encourage you in your toughest times and are consistently doing it, like, man, you just got to get them they flowers and you got to be grateful for them because you don't know how much their energy or what they're doing is actually keeping a lot of things away from you and provide a better opportunity for you in some way, shape or form or fashion.
And then in turn, you don't want to let them down. Absolutely.
Because you know that they have this deep belief in you. And you're like, I got to prove them right, if anything, you know? Absolutely.
And proving them right will only just do it more justice for the fact that, man, that's your people.

You know what I'm saying?

It doubles down on it's bigger than you.

What I do from an NFL perspective, from a father's perspective, from a husband's perspective,

is small to the grand scheme of things of the impact that I can have on lives everywhere across this entire world.

Obviously, within my household, that's the most important thing right now.

I'll see you next time. to the grand scheme of things of the impact that I can have on lives everywhere across this entire world.
Right. Obviously within my household, like that's the most important thing right now, how I go within how I'm doing, treating my own family is how I'm going to go about doing the rest of the world.
Right. Because what I want for myself, I want for everyone.
But I think it is important when you are around people that are giving you positive energy to just give them their flowers and be grateful for them. You impacted Big Cat and myself when we did those drills with you.
Keep the ball high. I think about that all the time.
Because that was our dream. I always wanted to be there on that arena.
Yeah, yeah. So what are you doing? You got any new workouts that you've been working on? Like a dog that's going to attack you? No, no dog is going to.
There's been dogs. Yeah, there was a Belgian Malinois.
Well, my dog, my Tootsie, she is one of my best defenders, and she's not going to attack me. Okay.
But you have had dogs in your videos, the big ball. What's that thing, the machine you were running in that was like – it was like a big – I don't even know what it was.
You got so many crazy videos out there. Well, it's intentional.
Okay, yeah, yeah. I like it.
I actually would love for your trainer to come up to our office in Chicago and send us through some. I know you would love that, but I don't know if you're ready for it.
Yeah, I'm ready for it. That's the thing.
I don't think y'all ready for it. All right, so does he have anything new this year, you think? No, we don't have anything new.
That's such a lie. We're going to see a video in like a month.
It's gonna be so awesome it's gonna be new to the world it would not it would not be new to us we we don't we don't function in surprises we don't we don't function as and uh and you know and conspiracies we just go we just put the work in and uh we lock in and do what what's required to to be done is there ever a day though that you show up show up and it's like, you know, maybe it's, you know, the backyard and it's like, there's a bat, there's like boxing gloves, there's like a bunch of towels and you're like, what's going on here? What are we doing today? So if you want me to get you a picture of that exact setup, I can give it to you. I got a heavy bat right here.
I got a BOSU ball in the middle. I got a trampoline right here with some towels on there.
And I got some boxing gloves and a half round in there. I need that picture.
We got to get you that picture. Yeah.
How often do you work out? Do you work out like five days a week? So in the early process, it's just three days a week. In the early process means like directly after the season toward the Super Bowl.
When I get the opportunity to play in an extended long period of time, I'm going to continue to do what I've been doing in the season. But three days a week, sometimes five if I'm just like, man, like I got to get it.
You know what I'm saying? If I don't got a big stomach, just sitting around eating too much. You got to watch what you eat?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

So after the season, I eat what I want for the most part.

And once I got here, it being Mardi Gras season and King Cakes opening up on my birthday,

you know what I'm saying, on King's Day.

And I got a granddad that always want to give me praline and stuff like that. It's just too much good food.
When's your birthday? January 6th. Oh, okay.
January. Happy birthday.
We missed it. We're January guys as well.
Yeah, our birthday was last week. Yeah.
Well, happy birthday. Both of y'all birthdays? Yeah, on the 30th he's the 31st.
Back to back. And my cousin's birthday is my favorite cousin is the 29th.
Oh, okay. I came for your job birthday.
Yeah, there we go. There are going to be some other cousins that listen to this that think you're talking about them.
That's not my birthday. Everybody knows I'm talking about Tay-Tay.
Everybody, all my family know who I'm talking about. Okay, why is Tay-Tay your favorite? I think what he's as overcame.
Man, when we grew up, he was always the person that people didn't mess with. But, you know, in terms of school, he was always misunderstood, whether it's from grade school all the way up.
And I took just a leap of faith because he had numerous medications to like, hey, Tay, when I go to Tampa, like, man, you come with me. And actually, it ended up like this.
It wasn't like you come with me. It was more like was more like hey tay you come on down here spend spend a good time in tampa yeah then tay ain't want to leave you know what i'm saying and then i was just like man nah you deserve this you deserve to experience this uh with me and like man he doesn't take all those men's that he's been taking man he's he's finding him a job like he has a one bedroom apartment like he's living a life that a lot of people would have never thought that he would be able to live yeah uh through sustaining himself that's awesome so i'm just proud of him and that's why i'm a firm believer like you never let people place limitations on you right there is a there is a right situation for you there is a right scenario you.
But as long as you continue to desire that, no one trying to place that hold or that lack on you can stop you. Shout out Tay-Tay.
I got a random question for you. Happy birthday, Co.
Who did you vote for for the Heisman? Who did I vote for?

Well, I voted for Shadur.

You voted first?

No, he was on there.

I voted for Travis.

And I voted for Cam Ward.

That's who I voted for.

No order. But I know Shadur was – he was just how in my, just because of what he has encompassed with throughout his whole collegiate career.
And it's similar to Bo, because I got a chance to be in the same state as Bo and see him show up. But we all got to witness Shadur's maturation process, even when DM was coaching the high school team in dallas like they had a tv show back then because i mean i know prime time is some of y'all favorite athletes yeah out there so just all he encompassed as like his whole collegiate career we got to see it and he never played a bad game all he did was ball you know i'm saying he had some he had a losses here and there, but he balled out for the most part.

So I had to make sure that he got him a trip up there to New York.

I don't know if he did, but I'm glad Travis won.

I'm glad Cam Warren had the year he won.

I just wish he would have went to Florida State.

Yeah.

With this NIL stuff.

This NIL stuff was crazy.

It's probably good that he didn't.

That was a bad season for Florida State.

At what point in the season were you like, oh, man? I never lost faith. You should have.
I never lost faith. I just refused to text anybody back that was talking to me about Florida State.
Did you hear about the guy that wouldn't eat the dog poop? He what? Yeah. This is where me and Big Cat lost faith in Florida State.
He said he would eat poop if Florida State lost to Georgia Tech in Ireland. No, it was Boston College.
Boston College. Yeah, Boston College.
They were like 17-point favorites. So they lost week one in Ireland, and then there were 17-point favorites week two.
I think there was that Monday night game, and he was like, if we lose outright, I'm going to eat dog poop on camera. and then there were 17 point favorites week two i think there was that monday night game and he was like if we lose outright i'm gonna eat i'm gonna eat dog poop on camera and then he didn't and then he deactivated he left the internet and then yeah just loss after loss kept piling up that's that's why your season went so poorly oh my god he should have eaten the dog poop he shouldn't have said that he was gonna eat dog poop but don't you agree that he should have eaten the dog poop? But don't we all agree, like, when we're walking our dog, like, Tutsi just did this today.
And she sniffs other poop and bites the poop. But I'm just like, why did you do that? She's probably trying to get Florida State back on track.
She did it for the nose. But I'm just saying, like, do we not think about that with our dogs? Like, I'm in your face.
You know what I'm saying? I'm in your face in your face and i just witnessed you eat dog poop but for the record you think that guy should have eaten the dog poop right i think you definitely should have stood on business yeah i agree i think you definitely should oh man uh we didn't ask you about this last time we were we were like getting to know each other and then after we got done with the interview you said i thought you were going to ask me about the crab legs yeah so we didn't do that last time but but i feel like now we have to right we've always had your back by the way on this there's never been any judgment

coming from no thank you to the crab leg story but if you want to if you want to speak on the

crab leg story and educate people about the truth behind some misconceptions i just want to educate

everyone about the new edition of nil and the things that it allows our uh young athletes to do

or I just want to educate everyone about the new addition of NIL and the things that it allows our young athletes to do or not to do. And before NIL, if you did anything illegal, you would get suspended.
You would lose your year of eligibility and and your career would be over, you know know so i don't condone anything bad uh happening uh from a collegiate athlete that was done between 2016 through before that you know but when nil started a lot of opportunities and doors that were already open yeah were reopened with the birth of uh a collective saying we're going to give you money. That is the best political way that I can put that situation.
I am grateful that the Crab Legs have provided me with so many opportunities to talk about Crab Legs, get Crab Legs thrown at me, and you know what? Get free C free crab legs from Fulton Fish Market. There we go.
There we go. That's the biggest thing.
He would have made so much money in NIL. Oh, my goodness.
Like, that crab leg thing would have never been like, oh, my gosh. Like, I would have had so many crab legs.
You would have been living in crab legs. You think back to, like, Ohio State and the huge scandal, the massive scandal.
It was the biggest story in sports at the time because some guys got tattoos, right?

They got free tattoos for giving their jersey to somebody.

And that was the only thing that we talked about for like three months.

And if that happened now, it's like nobody cares at all.

Nobody would care.

And the same thing, I think, with the crab legs.

It's like, okay.

By the way, there are worse things to be thrown at you for the course of your life than crab legs. Crab legs

are delicious. I know, but I can eat them

in my uniform.

It's not really fun to be

throwing when you're walking into the tunnel.

Like, oh, crab leg.

Oh, I was hungry. Thank you, Lord.

So, we hope

you have a long, fruitful NFL career.

We hope that you fulfill your dream of being

a starting quarterback, winning a Super Bowl.

Hope all that happens. But when the time

I'm going to go. So we hope you have a long, fruitful NFL career.
We hope that you fulfill your dream of being a starting quarterback,

winning a Super Bowl.

Hope all that happens.

But when the time comes to hang him up,

I predict that you will have a massive podcast.

Yeah, hopefully a partial sports. Hopefully, yeah.

But if not, we have to be invited on occasionally

because we're going to need some shine from the Jameis Winston podcast.

I don't think.

You better at least call us. I want to give y'all, like, a lot of people talk about, Jameis, you should do this, you should do that.
I don't think people know about the sweat equity that you guys put into this, that your team puts into this. Yeah, obviously, big names can get a mic and say their opinion, you know, but the intentionality and precision that you have, the thought of y'all guests, what y'all are doing, what RC is doing with the pivot, like it's unbelievable.
And it's really changing lives, you know, what Jay Shetty's doing with On Purpose. Like this is a new wave that our fans are able to really get the quality information that they need from what they want.
And y'all do that with the best of them. If not, y'all got to be the best because that's why I came on here first.
Appreciate it. Yes.
But no, man, I don't think people know the sweat equity in the team that you got to have to produce something great. Like, yeah, I can get a mic, but I want to be great.
You know, I just don't want to do this just to be able to have y'all on the show and say,

hey, you know, I had Big Cat and PFT on.

What y'all think about that?

You know what I'm saying?

I'd listen to that.

Not even with us.

I'm just saying how you intro that.

It could be anyone.

I'd listen.

No, I just want to do it.

I think you've been watching film.

You've been studying podcasts.

Well, I've been studying y'all, right?

Because y'all are great

right and i think that's one thing that a lot of great people do they study greatness so if this is one avenue that i decide to take like y'all are gonna be a part of it because y'all great you better give me a call i listen the fox thing i'm happy for you i didn't like that i found out on twitter because i was just like i just when you do decide to hang them up and you're like this is my next career just give us a chance okay give us a chance to make an

offer that I found out on Twitter because I was just like, when you do decide to hang him up and you're like, this is my next career, just give us a chance. Okay.
Give us a chance to make an offer. Well, thank you.
I'm grateful that you – You and Gruden in a podcast together would be elite. I'm happy that you said that all I – Imagine James and Gruden.
Oh, my gosh. That really mean that you care about me.
Yeah. No, I need to get a call being like, it's time.
And then we just hit the button, James and Gruden, and, and it just go to the moon. Ooh, Jameis, strap in.
Jameis, Gruden, and Fred Smoot. Oh.
Man, do you know one of the first football camps that I went to was Sam Shade and Fred Smoot? Yeah. Did he talk shit to the kids? He did.
But that put something in us. And another fun fact, me and my wife was at the same camp.
Oh. Oh.
That's crazy. So that's how destiny worked, man.
Yeah. Like, nothing is done by coincidence.
The fact that we sit here again on the pre-Super Bowl Sunday, you know, with a beautiful background, beautiful cast, like, nothing is done coincidentally. Did you say you met your wife at Fred Smoot's football game? Oh, my gosh.
Please don't put that out there. No, I didn't.
She just happened to be there as well. No, she was a camper.
Oh, okay. Nice.
So we are here for the Super Bowl. Max is, if you talk about, like, sweat equity that you put into a podcast, Max has been sweating this entire week.
He's very nervous. Oh, my goodness.
Big guy. Give us a preview for the game.
Man, I'm in a win-win for this situation because we're witnessing Patrick Mahomes do something that we haven't really witnessed be done from another quarterback this early on in their career. So I'm so proud that he is executing to the level that he's executing with his team.
And we all get to witness Travis Kelsey have the most beautiful, popular woman in the world win the Super Bowl with them. I think that's amazing as well.
Just the storyline, just what everything the NFL encompasses. I think that's amazing.
But we also, I grew up a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Right.
I've always admired Jalen Hurts and what he does from the quarterback position

because I think a lot of people shortchange him in what he does.

And what he does is he does the most important quality of a quarterback,

and that is to win.

So I'm excited to see him step onto this stage,

him being four hours down the road in Houston, Texas,

this being a home-like game for him.

You know, two Texas boys with their second matchup together in the Dome. four hours down the road in Houston, Texas, this being a home-like game for him.

You know, two Texas boys with their second matchup together in the Dome,

the city of life, the city of resilience.

Will Jalen make the most of his second opportunity?

Will the king rise again?

And how will the halftime show be this year? Yeah.

Like, how about that?

Drake tried to sue everybody to make them

not like us. He's going to play that song, right? Oh, yeah.
I'm a huge Kendrick Lamar fan, but I think I want to know what y'all opinion would be about if Lil Wayne brought the culture of New Orleans and all the artists in New Orleans and performed. Because most of the fans there at the Super Bowl, they're probably not Kendrick Lamar fans.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They're probably not Lil Wayne fans.
But I think understanding the culture and experience of this city, what Lil Wayne would have been able to do. I know Kendrick is going to rock the house.
I know that for a fact. But I think, like, Lil Wayne, he wanted that Super Bowl experience to be back home.
I'm a no-limits soldier. We don't die.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We keep rolling.
I think that would have been amazing. I know the block would have been hot for sure.
It's going to be a great performance. I kind of agree.
I like to see a little bit of the local flavor Wherever they're at Like when it was in Los Angeles That was incredible What they did there It would have been cool But also when Not Like Us drops It's going to be the best Yeah, people are going to like that I think that's definitely the most popular song That we've been accustomed to Yeah That's summer heat heat. But I don't want no beef with any of them.
I just want my franchise quarterback opportunity to be the winning quarterback that I'm capable of being. Yes, I love that.
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You can't have that happen.

Max, I promise you it wasn't a champagne that lost the game.

But it might have been.

But, Max, one Eagles fan to another Eagles fan, we got to get this one.

Okay?

So lock in, do whatever is required for you to have the best day that you possibly can have okay he's not locked in i'm locked in he drank champagne and lost his phone the night before oh you lost your phone yeah oh it was that time oh my goodness well please don't take no champagne in new orleans because i promise you it won't be pretty. He got sick all over himself in the back of a cab.
In the back of a cab. Oh my gosh.
All right. Well, Jameis, you're the best, man.
Love having you on. And let's hope someone gives you that chance.
We want to see you starting in the NFL. And when the day does come that you hang him up, you better give me a call.
Man, thank you, brother. All right.
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All right, let's do FAQs. Before we do that, it is the end of the show.
So Max, Super Bowl score update. What was the last one I did? No, no, no.
How are you feeling right now? Go vibes. How are you feeling last night.
Alright, it's 38-24. Okay.
Wow, so that actually has got, so it was 32-24 on Monday's show. We're now, the Eagles have gotten better.
From Monday to Wednesday, they have gotten significantly better. I like that.
So what is that, another touchdown, missed extra point? Something like that? I think it's actually, no, because 32, we got 32 from four touchdowns and four uh two-point conversions yep i think the eagles just tacked on three safeties oh i like that yeah i like that yeah it was a safety fest patrick mahomes zero awareness in the pocket none yeah none jalen carter just eating back there eating just eating how you feeling max i feel great i feel great i'm ready to go i'm ready for sunday lane it's only tuesday we haven't we haven't we haven't interviewed lane yet but i'm sure he was great i'm sure he was dialed did you read that article today i think it was on mmqb about italian culture and the philadelphia eagles no but it sounds like a good read i should get into that they all hang mention Max? They did not mention Max, but they mentioned like four coaches on the team,

how they all go to this one restaurant with this paisan that kisses them on the lips,

sits them down.

They yell at each other, but some people are like, oh, they're fighting.

No, we're just Italian.

This is how we communicate.

Did they mention Big Dom?

They did. Big Dom was featured heavily in this article.

Max should have been mentioned.

No.

No, no.

Big Dom's father, Brick Lair.

Love that. Blue collar.
He's the best. He uses his hands.
All right. FAQs.
Longtime listener, first time caller. Question for Dan and Eric.
Whoa. Oh.
It's a bit familiar. Don't use government names.
What tabs do you generally have open for every show? Max. ads i have usually espn and it's usually like nfl standings because i just forget what every team's record is i i'll have one page that's open to some league standings yeah usually not the nfl but i'll just have like the random nba standings pulled up so i can myself, oh, yeah, the Rockets are somehow good.
And then I'll usually have Twitter because I've been starting to bookmark tweets that I want to bring up, which has been very handy. That's smart.
Yeah. So I'll have X.com, the everything app.
And really, that's the only app that you need to have open at any time. It's still Twitter on my computer.
Bleep that out. Okay.
Don't say the T word. Yeah, I'll have the ads pulled up and then I'll have a Google Doc that has links to the tweets and stories that I want to talk about.
Not a lot of stuff. Not a lot of high level stuff.
Or if it's like a Friday show, if it's a preview show. Oh, I'll put my notes in there.
I'll have my stats that are pulled up. Yeah.
DraftKings odds. DraftKings odds.
Yeah, Friday show will be DraftKings, will be will be all my notes but I do like writing notes by hand that's what I do on Sunday nights because I think I just I absorb things better when I'm writing them down I also have flight tracker pulled up sometimes I have to so have you guys flight simulator no not flight simulator flight tracker my laptop doesn't have the gaming power to process flight simulator I have to only play flight simulator on Thursdays Saturdays, and Sundays. Yeah, that's when there's a squadron event.
I have to contribute to my squadron. And he used to have a guy named KKK in his squadron.
Yep. For a while, I was afraid that I had somehow gotten into a white supremacist flight simulator group.
And that took some years off my life, trying to think that through. Eventually, the guy named KKK made him change his name.
Got him kicked out. Yeah, PFT.
Wait, wait, wait. You told us you got him kicked out.
Yeah, you said you got him kicked out. I don't know if he left or if he changed his name.
Yeah. I don't know.
Because I was like, that's my boy. He got him kicked out.
Way to stand up. If you stand up even in the small spaces like your flight squadron, that's making a difference.
I took a stand. He might still be a white supremacist that is in my online flight community.
He just has a different name. He just changed it to White Lives Matter.
He's just undercover right now. But, yeah, I don't have that pulled up during the games.
But you know that there's been that helicopter that's been flying real low this week? I think it was like flying over the Yak yesterday or flying over. Brandon Walker was pissed off about it, but I've noticed it a few places.
That's not saying much. He's pissed off about everything.
I looked it up. You know what this helicopter is? What? They call it a nuke sniffer.
Oh. It's a radiation detection helicopter that's been traveling back and forth across the city of New Orleans every morning.
Just chill out, man. It's scanning for nuke.
have that nah dude i want the don't worry about it what are you doing i don't know this is what do you think wait can i ask a question that's mean i think that might be an insult question can i ask an insult question do you think the nukes sniffers alarms go off when max farts i knew that's a good question i knew that was gonna come that's I knew that was coming. Okay, what was this? I don't know.
It was some conspiracy theory, so I was looking at Hank and doing this. I would prefer the nuke sniffer to be out there.
Yeah. It's here.
It's checking. I like that.
Yeah, I like it, too. There's nothing to be worried about.
Hey, you don't want the nuke sniffer? Nah, there's nothing to be worried about, never said there's nothing to worry about are you wait are you so woke and you're thinking that the the helicopter is there to make us scared and make us think there might be your guys advice no no no you didn't listen to our advice no the advice is the world is shitty and shitty things happen but if you don't worry about them if you spend all day thinking about a bridge that collapsed six months ago, I don't think about anything. We know that.
Just keep it moving. Yeah, just keep living.
Keep it moving. If there's a new cure, who cares? Yeah, exactly.
This is crazy. This guy should probably be arrested.
Oh, I live in Philadelphia with three other diehard Eagles fans. That's the arrest? We've been dealing with a rat issue out front and on the back patio with our trash cans, which we have to leave out there.
If the Eagles lose, we decided we would massacre them to take our anger out. Okay? Yes.
How should we do it? Don't. It won't matter because we will win by a lot.
And should we feed them a big meal if we win? I think. Yeah.
Yes. Everything is on the table, of course.
Italian food. Your thoughts.
Here's what you do. If the eagles win, if the birds win, you need to reward those rats.
And they are your new god right now. Party sub.
If the eagles lose, you just got to get some cats. Yeah.
And just let nature take its course. I don't think that you should kill the rats.
Massacre isn't aggressive words for rat extermination. Rats are the worst.
No, I know. But just thinking like.
A rat massacre. That's crazy.
I mean, that's what they do every time they nuke the alleys in Chicago. That's a rat massacre.
But do they say we're going to go massacre these motherfuckers? I mean, if you look at the signs, it says, like, this alley has been, like, carpet bombed with poison. So, yeah, I'm kind of okay with it.
Rats suck. True.
Rats did. It's a massacre, though.
Please take video and send it to us. That implies that you're using your hands.
I don't think that you should use your hands. I think you should use your hands.
I think that's the only way that you're allowed to do it. If you can catch the rat with your hand and choke it out, rats never tap.
Hypothetical for Max. You're out at sea with Jason Kelsey, Big Dom, and Nick Foles.
Oh, wow. Who are you fucking first? Oh, wow.
When out of nowhere, they're all captured by a gang of pirates.

You must choose one

to set free,

one to live out their years

as the pirate's hostage,

and one to be executed

on the ship.

Oh, my God.

What will you do?

Nick Foles,

Jason Kelsey, Big Don.

So one to let free?

Yeah.

What does that mean?

Like, he gets to go home.

He gets to go home.

They're captured and then they're no longer captured.

So I'm a pirate in this scenario?

No, you're the spokesperson.

Your friends are captured by pirates.

You're negotiating with them.

And they said, you can set one free.

One of us is staying with us forever.

The other one's dying right now.

I think this is easy.

I think this is easy. Why? I have an answer.
Give your answer then. Jason Kelsey's a pirate.
He was born to be a pirate. He would probably enjoy being a pirate.
I think also if we got rid of Jason Kelsey, it eliminates competition in the podcast game. Yeah.
Nick Foles, you don't unfortunately have to kill. Big Dom, you set free, and then he'll get vengeance.
Big Dom was for sure being set free. Yeah, he'll get vengeance.
Yeah, yeah. He will find those parents.
That was the only thing I knew. I couldn't figure out the other two.
We'll figure it out right now. I think...
This is good podcasting. I don't know.
I don't want to answer this question. They're my guys.
I love all those guys. You have to answer the question.
I love all those guys. You have to answer the question.
Huh? If you don't answer them, they all die. Yeah.
So I have to kill one? Yes. You're telling the pirates to execute them.
But the pirates they could beat the Pirates. Sure.
I think Nick Foles is such a winner, he would just beat the Pirates. Oh, so you're executing Nick Foles, the one guy.
I'm not executing him. The quarterback who's gotten you a Super Bowl.
The only Super Bowl you've ever had. Wow.
You think that Nick Foles would stand a better chance going toe-to-toe with Pirates than Big Dom would? Oh, I actually have his number. Should we call him right now and tell him that you executed him?

I didn't execute him.

It was, I mean, he beat Tom Brady.

That's true.

You would have said the same thing about that.

You know Tom Brady didn't punt in that Super Bowl?

That's crazy, huh?

You just executed him.

I didn't execute him.

I said, I believe in him to be a winner.

Okay.

Defy all odds. That's a good FAQ.
Nick Foles. That's a very frequently asked question.
All right, last one. If the Birds win, how much shit do you think Max is going to give everyone for finally being a champion while on PMT? I actually don't think – I think he's going to just be so happy with himself that he doesn't – I don't think he's going to be thinking about us that much.
There's nothing that we can say to hurt him in that moment. I think it's going to just be so happy with himself that he doesn't – I don't think he's going to be thinking about us that much.

There's nothing that we can say to hurt him in that moment.

I think it's going to be more like a residual thing,

like two months from now, a side comment's made,

and he's like Super Bowl champion.

That's where you're going to see it.

Two months, a full year.

Yeah, he's not going to take – No, no, no.

I'm saying in two months.

I don't think you're going to come on –

if the Eagles win, I don't think you're going to come on just straight talking shit. You're going to be so happy about the Eagles.
And then in two months, there'll be a random comment. You'll be like, I'm a Super Bowl champion.
I don't know what you're talking about. But yes, that will last for a long time.
It'll change everything. It would change everything.
And what happens if you lose? It's the worse. It's worse.
Why is it worse? It's just the same thing. No, it's worse.
Again. I'm already looked at as second place guy.
Yeah. It reaffirms.
And then it's just. Yeah, that's it.
No, but you get even more second place. Add another one to the tally.
It's fine. Like that's.
No, I think you're underestimating how bad it will be.

It's going to be really bad.

Yeah, it'll be bad.

I hope you win for your sake.

No, you don't.

You're right.

You don't at all.

I hope you win for my sake.

Yeah.

I hope you win for my sake.

Yeah.

Bad.

No, it'll just be...

It'll be the same song and dance.

Should we cash out and just bet the Chiefs?

No.

No.

I mean, the one good part about the Eagles winning this would be Max just constantly shoving it in Hank's face. All the time.
That's fine. What? I wouldn't.
Hank is my brother in birds. Okay.
All right. Way to use your words there, Max.
I was going to say brother in arms, and I don't know. Brother in birds.
Brother in birds. Yeah, Max, if you lose, it'll definitely be bad.
I think it'll be worse. You're underestimating how bad it's going to be.
But if you win, you're going to do that thing where you get so happy that you're angry. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. And you'll be screaming.
I'm going to be angry no matter what. You're going to be crying and screaming, but you'll be the happiest you've ever been in your life.
No matter what, Monday's show is going to be incredible. Yeah.
Monday's show is going to be incredible. We'll just see.
Okay. Let's kick it to ourselves.
We got Lottery Ball. There was actually an AWO who tweeted me today.
He said that he's been guessing the number since the beginning of the Lottery Ball machine. He's never gotten it.
That's crazy. Do we have anybody like that? Well, memes.
Listen, credit to memes. He didn't guess it for the first, what, year? So this guy is somehow worse.

This is Chris, CM Marsha51, shout out.

He said he had to come clean because it was bothering him.

For the entire history of the lottery ball machine,

he has never gotten it right.

That's pretty crazy.

Let me know if you ever get it right,

because I am now invested in this.

All right, let's kick it to ourselves.

Okay, numbers, memes.

If you get the next one, know if you ever get it right because I am now invested in this. So, all right, let's kick it to ourselves.

Okay, numbers, memes.

If you get the number during Super Bowl week, I mean, this is Max's week, but if you get it.

No, this is Memes week.

No, we've upgraded from Eagles week to Max week.

Oh, okay, Max week.

I like that.

It's Max versus the Chiefs.

Numbers.

85.

I'm gonna guess 2

11

I'm thinking of players on the

Come on memes

Eagles

You're not gonna get it

Alright 77

You're never gonna get it memes

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