Jimmy Tatro In Studio, Nick Wright Talking Chiefs And Super Bowl, Birthday Episode And Fyre Fest Of The Week

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We've got our good friend Jimmy Tatro in studio. He flew into Chicago to come hang with us.
And then we have our other good friend Nick Wright talking about the Chiefs. We figured we're going to be doing a lot of Eagles content, so we wanted to give a Chiefs fan a moment.
And Nick is, is one of the best to do it. So it was awesome interview with him.
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Happy birthday, Big Cat.

Happy birthday, PFT.

Happy birthday, PFT, because this is coming out for the birthday.

Which day is it right now?

It is my birthday right now, but it's your birthday when people are listening to this.

How does being 40 feel? I feel wiser than all of you i feel smarter uh no i've actually been dreading it and now that it's happened it's like just move on i don't really like my birthday anymore birthdays kind of suck now just move on did you get the finger in the butt yet no stroke a midnight right you have to do it should we do our kiss let's do our kiss so this is uh if you're listening

on the podcast go subscribe on the youtube pft and i are going to do our annual kiss between our birthdays so you'll have to watch it you can't uh listen to it well you can listen to it but go watch it right now uh and also subscribe to youtube all right here it goes three two one oh

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oh to YouTube. Alright, here it goes.
3, 2, 1.

Oh.

Oh.

Oh.

Oh my god. You're poking me.

You must have tickles.

Spit in there, Daddy.

And that was our kiss.

Pretty good. I think that was our best one yet.
I think that was our best one yet. Podcast listeners, you just have to leave it to your imagination, I guess.
Hank, how'd you feel about that? It's gross. Hank, it's two men who love each other very dearly sharing an intimate moment on their birthdays.
What's your problem, bro? Guys can't care about each other anymore? I don't like how Hank and Memes, I don't like their attitudes. Memes wants us to die.
Hank just loves to comment about our age. Max is the only one who's got our back, because I think Max is just still so hungover from the case race.
He doesn't even know where he is right now. Yeah, he popped a blood vessel in his eye.
Oh, that's always a good one. I spent pretty much all day yesterday puking, taking gummies, puking.

Yeah, it was a good day.

Yeah.

So, yeah, but we are 40.

You're listening to us as 40.

We're going to move past it.

We're going to be fine.

I don't like Hank's attitude or face or look or anything.

It can't exist.

Once I'm 40, I'm going to get in good shape.

Yeah.

After the Super Bowl, I'm going to get in good shape.

Spring break abs. After March Madness.
Yeah. I'm going to be jacked up by the time I'm 41.
Yeah. All right.
National Sports Podcast. So this is always the weird week because it's like we haven't fully transitioned off football.
Do the Saints finally have a head coach? Is it Kellen Moore? Mike McCarthy's sitting out a year. So he's just...
What do you think the people at Pro Football Focus said when they saw the alert that Mike McCarthy's sitting out a year and they're like, holy shit, he's going to re-up his subscription? Yeah. He's going to live with them.
I think they're in Cincinnati, right? Yeah. Yeah, Mike McCarthy's going to move to Cincinnati and just spend a year farting and watching film and looking at a computer screen while somebody tells him what this cell means.
Yeah. And he's going to come back.
He must have an idea of what jobs could open up next year. Yeah, I guess.
But it also, could it be the end? No, he's taking a year off. He's taking a year off.
Yeah. So is it Kellen Moore, though? Is Kellen Moore going to be the Saints head coach? I think it might be Kellen Moore.
Yeah, I think he's been doing a lot of... He's been getting his staff together.

He's been really focused on his interviews with the Saints.

I think this bodes well for his chance

of being hired. Are we worried, Max, that

Kellen Moore is thinking about the Saints

and not the Eagles?

It is what it is.

That's what happens in football. Sometimes

if you're a good team, other teams are going to want

your coordinators, and I'm not going to cry about it. Okay.
That was that's a really good answer yeah i think he'd be a good coach for the saints yeah yeah i think he's a good football coach thanks that jalen hurts looks like he'll probably have his ninth offensive coordinator in eight years i like that let's talk about jalen hurts the same way we talk about baker bayfield yeah he just keeps getting keeps getting... Maybe Jalen Hurts is just...
He's the rainmaker. He keeps getting guys hired.
He is too good. He is too good.
And then, Memes, you are... You're just giddy about going to New Orleans.
What's going on here? Memes laughed today. It's Eagles week.
It's Eagles week. New Orleans is a very happy place.
Are you... Does it feel like, Max, that Memes is kind of stealing this from you, the Eagles Week thing? No, I would prefer it to be on him.
Okay, okay. So it's Eagles Week.
No, it's all about Max. But it's your own.
When you say it's Eagles Week, are you saying that because you want more spotlight on Max? No, no. I have a prediction that over the next week we're going to be very eagles focused yeah for the record i i would i would be chiefs focused too if we can get good interviews with chiefs players yeah but the chiefs don't really want to give us interviews but we do have nick right on today who's very good and he is a diehard chiefs fan so that we we're trying chiefs fans i know that they think it's slanted against them.
We're trying. It should be slanted against you.
Why? Because fuck them. Today's you get Chiefs day.
Okay, you get Chiefs day and then Eagles week. Yes.
And Eagles week. Okay, that's fair.
How are you feeling in terms of your confidence level, Max? I can't get too worked up. It's too early to get too worked up.
It's too early to get too worked up. I like that.
That's my answer. I like that.
That's a good answer. Not worked up right now.
Correct. Okay.
I'm calm, cool, collective. And we do have a big interview coming on Monday, so get excited for everyone.
We're going to have a big Super Bowl week. We've got a lot of big interviews.
We've got a lot of big interviews. Eagles week.
Eagles week. Are you worried about one of the interviews and how much you love that person? Don't do this yet.
Why? Can't do this yet. Why? A couple.
A couple, but really the one on Wednesday that feels like he's, you know. I'll give a hint.
He's the brother of a player who's in the game. This is, what are we doing here? I'll give another hint.
It could be Jackson Mahomes. Yeah, it could be.
It could be Jackson Mahomes. Everyone knows I'm the biggest Jackson Mahomes fan.
Right. Yeah.
It's going to be a big week. All right, so National Sports Podcast.
I have a couple headlines I wanted to read to you guys. And then we are going to give one early prop pick for the Super Bowl.
National Sports Podcast, though. Did you see Adam Silver floats the idea of a 10-minute NBA quarter? Windhorse fingers.
That would be interesting that they'd make a 10-minute quarter right when LeBron retires, and then no one can beat any of his records. That is interesting.
That's interesting. Or it'd be interesting if they shorten the length of the quarters to help the older players in the league that are still around.
Maybe a one-year trial for the shorter quarters. What do you think, Hank? I think it would be...

Put your fingers up.

I think it would be bad for bench players.

There would be less parity in the league,

and there would just be, you know,

all the stars could play more minutes.

Yeah.

But you got a lot of stars.

We do have a lot of stars.

Yeah.

But I think for league parity, it'd be bad.

Unless they're going to add two more teams, I think, is my takeaway.

Oh.

Where do you think they should go?

Vegas.

And?

Seattle.

You got to say Seattle.

Seattle.

Give Seattle a shout out.

Fuck Seattle.

Why fuck Seattle?

No, I don't know.

I used to have beef with Seattle.

What?

Bad sports sound.

I forget.

I call them bad sports sound, and now people from Seattle, they don't forget.

So you started the beef.

Yeah, maybe.

Does this go back to the Super Bowl?

No.

It was on the show.

It was an offhanded comment.

Oh, yeah.

It might have been during the Mariners.

Yeah.

MLB playoffs.

Yeah, you just were like, fuck them.

When they had that one game playoff and the game that lasted like 18 innings.

Maybe that's what it was.

Bad sports Town.

I forget.

Yeah, they got a home run mashed,

and then you were like, Bad Sports Town anyways,

right when they're at their lowest.

Yeah.

Yeah, you just kicked them when they were down.

Whatever.

All right, so you're against it.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was the one big story, and then I had, let's see.

I've got a couple other national sports.

Yeah, Wemby fed up with shoves and unfair lack of calls was another one. Wemby, you can't be upset this early.
It's not like the French to complain. No, but you can't be upset this early.
I also saw a stat. Let Pop do that.
That's what Pop's job is. It's like manipulate the media.
Yeah, he works the refs. I saw a stat.
I don't have the exact numbers, but it was wild.

It was a screenshot of the Sixers game last night, and it was...

Oh, yeah, I saw that same stat.

Yeah, it was like Joe Embiid games played in NBA career, like 430 games missed 400.

Oh, the one that I saw was how much money he's been paid to sit out.

I think it was like 125 million or something.

But the Sixers are almost in the playoffs now, which I'm rooting for them to get there because I want the Bulls to be in the lottery. I think they're virtually tied for the Bulls for the 10th seed.
You guys are tied, yeah. Yes, that's huge.
We are, whatever. Yeah, that's huge.
All right, what were your stories? National Sports Podcast. Yes, National Sports Podcast.
Cam Newton was asked the question whether he would rather win a Super Bowl or an MVP. You know what he said? MVP.
He said MVP. Yeah.
So embrace debate. Embrace debate.
If I was an MVP winner and not a Super Bowl winner, I would say the exact same thing. Yeah.
I remember when we had Chris Carter on, I don't know, it was like six or seven years ago, and he said that he would rather be in the Hall of Fame than win a Super bowl and I thought that was crazy but the more I thought about it was like hall of fame you could maybe say that because you're immortalized forever and there's only you know a handful of those guys that were the best of the best best MVP I think is where I draw the line where I'd rather have a super bowl yeah probably now two-time MVP two-time MVP but then you might be hall of famer that means means great career. That could be Hall of Famer.
Yeah. But I understand why Cam would say that.
Yeah. I would say that, too, if I were him.
But I did kind of evolve a little bit on the Chris Carter one, where I was like, you know what? Hall of Fame is pretty insane. And you are, I don't know how many actual NFL Hall of Fame.
NFL Hall of Fame is a lot more exclusive, too. Yeah.
Like Basketball Hall of Fame Fame who cares. MLB Hall of Fame.
Baseball is definitely the most exclusive. Yeah, baseball is like too much so.
Yeah, but think about how many players play in the NFL. I mean, there's 53 guys on a roster and what they let in like five a year.
So being an NFL Hall of Famer, that is pretty fucking crazy. We didn't talk about the Ichiro thing when he was selected for the Hall of Fame, but it was not unanimous.
Of course. And then every media member was like, we need the name of this person that did not put Ichiro on the Hall of Fame ballot.
Yeah. And they should be thanking the guy in the media that didn't do that because it gave them a full day of things to talk about on their sports show of how could Ichiro not be unanimous Hall of Famer.
Okay. actually did a great job yeah yeah that guy yeah you you need you need that uh out there every single time wasn't jeter the same way yeah i think jeter was the same way there's never been a unanimous marianna rivera maybe yes i think that might be right 378 members in the pro football hall of fame total that's pretty crazy it would be a good club to be in yeah plus you get yeah you get the speech you get the the statue you get the gold jacket yeah uh okay what was your other national sports headline uh national sports headline somebody in the uk has been arrested for cyber farting oh i saw this so uh this this woman took a camera on her phone-facing camera, and then put it up to her ass and then farted into it and then sent that video to somebody.

So it's not even farting in real life.

It was cyber farting.

The quote from the judgment said, Miss Evans passing wind, her face smiling at the camera.

The victim was a woman by the name of Deborah Prirtec. Okay okay she said that the booty belches made her feel unsafe in her own home it was purely malicious she was she was smirking throughout and she found it hilarious but the victim did not so now uh miss evans the farter has to go to 15 rehab sessions 16 days of or 60 days of alcohol abstinence and she has a two-year restraining order following her fart damn so it has justice been served i don't know will compton's in trouble he's in big trouble i actually sent him don't go to britain he tried to send me a fart for my birthday today and he couldn't muster one up not saying i mean listen that's just sad because everyone always expected will compton would be able to get a fart out.
So I just sent him one back. What would you say the prison sentence would be for this one? I'll play it.
I took a video of it. There's nothing like farting in your phone.
It's just always a good time. All right, give me my prison sentence.
That wasn't too bad. Yeah.
that's like 60 days maybe some probation i think probation yeah yeah maybe some light community work that reminds me i wanted to do an uh spaces on twitter but it's just only farts where it's just people farting the entire time and you raise your hand if you think that you can fart i think someone No, it's my Snapchat. I have a Snapchat group chat.
Oh, yeah. That's called Only Farts.
Only Farts? Yeah, yeah. And you share it with your friends.
Yeah, it's just the only thing that goes on in that group chat is just videos of farting. I just want to Twitter spaces that is nothing but 30 minutes of just people farting the entire time.
And laughing. And you can laugh at the farts.
Yeah, you have to be able to laugh at the farts um okay and do we have any other uh national sports podcast stories that we have to talk about yeah uh as first reported on part of my take by our dear friend jerry o'connell matt stafford is coming back oh he did the research he got that by listening to kelly's podcast listen there were some people who were like you guys were too hard on joc we love joc we just demand excellence at this program yeah i mean we wanted to hear him fight for his job and he did to his credit he he said i'm not gonna share managing duties yeah we wanted that fire from him right that might have cost him the managing duties that ultimatum that he threw at us but it was's good that he did the research. He got that.

Yeah, it was good to hear.

It was good to hear him fight a little bit.

Yeah.

Also, shout out to AWLs.

This kind of is mind-blowing,

but Spotify released...

What was the exact thing?

They did awards.

They did awards.

Spotify did awards,

so they did total downloads

in the history of the shows?

Was that what it is? Inaugural Podcaster Milestone Awards. Okay.
So the first group of honorees are getting plaques. Okay.
Three tiers based on total lifetime to date streams globally. Bronze is 100 million.
Silver is 250. Gold is 500.
So there's 500 downloads, 250 downloads, 100 downloads. The 500 list was...
Sorry, I'm trying to find it exactly. I think it was Joe Rogan.
500 and Crime Junkie. Okay, so Joe Rogan and Crime Junkie.
And then the Silver podcast, which is $250 million plus cumulative streams to date, are Dateline NBC, My Favorite Murder, and Part of My Take.

Oh, wow.

That is pretty mind-blowing that outside of just basically true crime and Joe Rogan, we're up there.

So thank you to everyone who listens.

So we get a plaque?

We're getting a plaque?

We're getting a plaque.

I think.

We're getting a plaque even though Spotify fired all their people, Hank? Yeah, I mean, listen. They fucked their plaque, but at least they're doing something.
They're making it up to Hank for that, yeah. I like that.
Also, yesterday, I... I'm sorry, by the way.
I feel bad for the Spotify people that got fired, but also, I have to acknowledge the raft was bad also this story is like i mean the fact that 250 million and we're the only sports podcast with a silver plaque what do you got memes you got your hand up didn't we hit a billion downloads a year ago maybe this is spotify exclusive spotify yeah yeah so we gotta be close to that 500 bump us up spotify Yeah. Or bump us up, AWLs.
Get us that. But it's still, it was like one of those moments where you take a step back.
You're like, holy shit. Like there's, it's basically true crime in us and Joe Rogan.
That's insane. And 250 million downloads.
Can't wait for our plaque. It's pretty cool.
Yeah. Very cool.
I can't wait to lose our plaque. Love you guys.
We will lose it. Yeah, we're going to lose it easily.
There was another piece of news yesterday that I discovered by reading a press release. But apparently, me and Big Cat own a football team in Mexico now.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. So we teamed up with Mr.
Kittle, Mr. Greg Olson, Mr.
Ryan Khalil. Who else? Blake Griffin.
Blake Griffin, yeah. I think Christian McCaffrey.
So it was very funny because I had a Zoom with Ryan Khalil and Blake Griffin, I think it was maybe two months ago, and they had this idea they're going to buy an American football team in Mexico. There's a league.
I think our team actually is the Monterey Osos, which is Bears. And so I talked to them.
I was like, we're in. This sounds awesome.
They did all the legwork. And then about a week and a half ago, Ryan Khalil and Blake Griffin texted me.
They're like, hey, what's your address? We want to send you some hats. And I just didn't read the second paragraph.
And it was just, we're close to finalizing the deal. Want to mention you and PFT in the press release if that's cool.
And I responded for the hats saying, here's our address. And that sounds great.
And then last night, PFT was like, hey, did we actually buy part of this team? And I was like, oh, oh fuck i guess i didn't read the second part of the paragraph so yeah we did that's pretty cool yeah as as owners yeah what can we say osos vuelto yeah we got to get to the glory hole what's the glory hole in spanish uh i don't know but osos and vuelto means bears are back bears All right, let's see. They got a cool logo too.

English to Spanish.

You guys are also, you guys know owners.

No, we don't mean we know them.

You know us? Yeah.

So congrats to that.

As an owner, I plan on hiring smart football people and then letting them do their job.

Yeah.

Aguera de la Gloria.

There we go. So we got to get to the Agjera de la gloria that's all we need yeah and those windows are not they're not as big as you think they are yeah do you still have swansea is that is that a thing i think so i think so but maybe i actually don't i think actually they might have i think they ever signed paperwork for the breakers i don't think so we i think we might have i don't think so the actually they might have.
I think they might have sold. Did you ever sign paperwork for the Breakers? I don't think so.

I think we might have.

I don't think so.

The Breakers, I think we did.

And then we have the Water Dogs.

Nice little portfolio.

Yeah.

We've won at least one championship.

Yep.

So that's pretty cool.

Yeah, we're owners.

What's that? Osos.

I don't fucking know. Yeah, e-game-sports e-games e-games yeah I was gonna say as well we'll do an e-sports team e-sports team a paintball team maybe yeah I'd like to get a paintball team like to hire Jake on that yeah gotcha gotcha but yeah congrats to us pretty cool pretty cool pretty cool I don't're going to be doing or how we're going to be running the team, but I do know that the standard is the standard.
And Aguera de la Gloria. It's coming.
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I mean, I'm not letting myself really worry until I get to New Orleans. New Orleans is going to be, you're going to see all the Super Bowl stuff around the city.
There's going to be all the Eagles, Chiefs, you know, bannersanners and that's when i'm really going to start getting nervous because i i can't get i can't do two weeks of of freak out yeah you can't you can't but you might no i can't okay do you have a prop that you like max uh my prop i think that Devontae Smith do. Oh! I think he...
50-plus yards,

I feel good about Devante Smith okay all right Hank do you have a prop yeah I don't feel as excited I'm really just blah what's wrong gonna be blah what do you mean Eagles and sheets I don't I don't really like future your biggest biggest future of your. Get up off the mat.
But I know the Eagles are going to lose, and it's like I'm going to be rooting so hard against the Chiefs, and then I'm going to be mad at the Eagles. So I feel like it's just going to be – it's going to suck.
The prop that I will be betting that I'll be rooting for is Patrick Mahomes over one half interception. So Patrick Mahomes will throw an interception.
What about just going to New Orleans? It doesn't get you jazzed up? It does. I had a little bit of a scary situation last time I was in New Orleans.
A little bit freaked out if I'm being honest. Shaking up.
Yeah. But even if the Chiefs are going to win, just think about how hilarious it's going to be to laugh at Max.
That's true. We've done it.
We need new. We need something new.
No, I mean, this is Super Bowl, though. It would be one thing if we were laughing at him for Villanova not making the tournament.
That's like, oh, who cares? They didn't make the tournament. This is Super Bowl.
These are, for the Max haters, it's their Super Bowl. But for me, that's the thing.
It's like, I am the top of the mountain of Max haters, and no one loves reveling in his misery more than me, but it comes at the cost of Tom Brady and his legacy, and some things are bigger than Max being in misery. I'm not saying don't.
I'm not saying. I would rather the Eagles win.
If I had a choice, it's the Eagles. But the Eagles can win this game, and I'm saying that no matter what if the eagles end up losing this game there's at least a prize at the end of it it's him but i then you have to it's the narrative that's to answer those questions forever that's how i'm i'm getting ready for super bowl it's like they're tough questions to answer nightmare scenario is the chiefs win and tom brady screws up the call oh Oh.
If the Chiefs win, the conversations are tough.

They're tough arguments to make.

I'm really going to have to get in the lab.

You're going to have to do some reading? Yeah.

If they lose, then we're good.

I'm not cashing out my future on the Eagles.

I'm rooting for the Eagles.

I'm rooting for Max.

But if they end up losing and I lose this money,

I know that I got a nice consolation prize

and just looking at him.

Like, that's there.

Yeah.

And he's going to get back to the exact same level

that he was the last time they lost.

Oh, yeah.

Like, right now he's trying to play cool.

He's not doing a good job.

No.

But he's trying.

Next week, we're going to be around the Eagles.

He's going to see some of his heroes.

It's going to be a week of him seeing other Byrds fans being like, we fucking got this, Max. We're going to interview around the Eagles.
He's going to see some of his heroes. It's going to be a week of him seeing other Byrds fans, being like, we fucking got this, Max.
We're going to interview Jason Kelsey. Yeah.
It could be Jackson Mahomes. Yeah, it might be Jackson Mahomes.
It might be Jackson. Either Jason Kelsey or...
It could be Jason Barkley. Yep.
Jason Barkley, Saquon's brother. Jack Stellente.
All right, so what's your prop, Hank? Patrick Mahomes over. Oh, over in the intersection.
All right. I'm looking for no doinks.
I don't see no doinks listed just yet. I'm hopeful that they'll put it back up next week.
But I am going to be taking over three and a half field goals. The Gremlin bet is at plus 125 right now.
I like it. And I think they got two great kickers.
I like it. I'm going I think this has got to be a huge Dallas Goddard game.
So I'm going Dallas Goddard over 60 yards receiving plus 119. Hmm.
So it's plus money. I think this is a Dallas Goddard game.
I think he's got to eat. He's also he leads the Eagles in receiving yards in the playoffs.
It feels like he's going to get his five or six targets and he's had had a – I'm just thinking off the top of my head, there's been at least two that I can think of where he broke for like 30-plus yards. So Dallas Goddard, recurring guest.
Eat. I like it.
You like that, Max? Love it. Love it.
Who do you think Taylor Swift is rooting for in this game? Chiefs. But she's from Philly, right? Jeez.
She's from Philly adjacent. What did future guest Jason Kelsey say about who he's rooting for? Oh, he said he's – it was kind of talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He said, I'm going to root for my brother, and I'm going to root for the Eagles. So if the Chiefs win, I'm going to be happy.
If the Eagles win, I'm going to be happy. That's a fair way to look at it.
I mean, he's kind of in an impossible spot. Yeah, it sucks.
Because he does have, like, best friends on the Eagles, and then it's his brother. He was like, it's hard to root against family, but the people in Philly are my family, too.
Right. He was like, if you really wanted to ask me, it's going to be tough to say that I don't want the Eagles to win, but I'm always rooting for Travis Kelsey.
Right. Yeah, just root for Travis.
He should just bet all of Travis's props and parlay it with the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. It's 1 million percent a fair answer to give, but also at the same time you can be like, oh, he's not picking a side.
Yeah. Travis asked him if he would wear the split team jersey, and he was like, I will not be wearing red.
Yeah. Also, I'll just say this, and we'll ask him this when we interview him on Wednesday.
Max will be there. Either him or Jackson Mahomes.
There's got to be the big brother, little brother thing. If it's 4-1, that's pretty significant.
I don't know how many more seasons Travis Cousins is gonna play but 4-1 is now he's got basically a whole hand versus year 1 especially since one of those could have been just immediately transferred over to Hale-Mary yeah it could have I'm excited to get to New Orleans I'm excited for a great Super Bowl week me too I've put the final number I think my goal is to eat 15 gumbos I love that. get to New Orleans.
Me too. I'm excited for a great Super Bowl week.
Me too. I've put the final number.
I think my goal is to eat 15 gumbos. I love that.
15 gumbos from the time I arrive to when I leave. We're leaving on Saturday morning.
Yeah. So Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, six days, 15 gumbos.
I love that for you. I think it can happen.
I love that for you. Max is staying until Monday.
He's going to the game. We got to make sure that you got a real.
I want to do. I think we got to do a Sunday morning quick, like five minute zoom.
We can just all zoom in of just the vibes time capsule for the AWL so they can see Max before going to the Super Bowl. I think that's got to be.
We got to do that. Right.
Do you think I'll be hung over for that? Zoom. Oh, you'll be so hung over.
You might not even wake up for it. Are you going to the super bowl i think that's got to be we got to do that right do you think i'll be hung over for that zoom oh you'll be so hung over you might not even wake up for it are you going to drink champagne i will that's a promise i will not be drinking oh i thought you were gonna say that's a promise i'm drinking champagne oh no no no i will not be drinking champagne getting drunk before the game i will not i will not be promising sobriety that saturday no you gotta get hammered yeah i mean you're gonna get fucked up i will not be promising sobriety that Saturday.
No, you got to get hammered. Yeah, I mean.
You're going to get fucked up. I will not be promising sobriety that Saturday evening.
Yeah, that's a good non-promise. That's all I have to say.
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Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very good friend.

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He's got a new movie out.

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So Will Ferrell produced this, right? Produced it, started it. So that had to have been like a pinch me moment where you've been doing all this.
Your career been taking off uh some people are saying you know basically since you came on PMT like eight years ago it's like everything's been uphill from there some people are saying that but was it like holy fuck I'm doing a movie with Will Ferrell because this guy is for anyone in our age range like he's the goat yeah he's definitely my goat and it was definitely like yeah the whole time i was there you'd be just hanging out kicking it and then there'd be like that part of me that'd be creeping in like almost nudging myself like dude that's fucking welfare yeah right shut up jimmy shut up be chill be chill right now uh but he's like i don't know they say don't meet your heroes that guy is like everything i hoped he would be and more like that's so cool so funny just he's the best yeah i have nothing but nice things to say about that and like did you ever find yourself because i i think if i ever got in a situation where i was around will ferrell or working with will ferrell i'd probably over laugh at all his jokes but not in like a like a sarcastic way just be like i think you're so funny i'm just gonna laugh at every joke you've already made yeah because i love you so much it is funny i mean he's actually funny but it is funny like when you do a movie and there's like a big star on the movie they can kind of say anything they want yeah and like a lot of times people just yeah right get it it's will ferrell yeah yeah but it's not like in a mean because like you know when someone overlasts something you're like all right dude it wasn't that funny you're mocking me but like for him like no sir i i'm not mocking you i'm literally just laughing because every everything you've ever said is funny to me. He, like, gave us, like, a little, him and Reese gave, like, a little speech before the premiere.
And it seemed like he was just coming out to just, like, introduce the movie. Like, you know, they've done a few of those.
But you could tell the whole crowd was, like, just like, oh, what's he going to say? Yeah. He's going to say something funny.
It's coming. It's coming.
And he kind of, like, felt that. And like felt that and then it was like okay i guess i'll be funny yeah he started doing like a little bit and it ended up being really funny yeah but i was like it's gotta be a lot of pressure to be yeah to be will fail yeah yeah but i mean to big cat's point it's like whenever i see will ferrell saying something serious i think like oh that was kind of funny the way he said that you know like you even the serious stuffinterpret as a joke sometimes.
You're like, it can't be. There's a bit coming.
Yeah. It's coming.
It's serious now, but there's going to be a punchline. I'm just waiting for it.
Yeah, you probably also have to check your references around them. Make sure that you don't – everybody just says Will Ferrell quotes all the time.
That's true. That escalated quickly.
You can't really say that to Will Ferrell. Or maybe you can.
Maybe it's like, the time that's true that escalated quickly yeah you can't

really say that to will ferrell yeah maybe you can maybe it's like remember that time you said that escalated quickly it's just escalated quickly right now yeah i i got a question about making a movie this is a dumb question but when did you film this movie when or where when we filmed it in uh 2023 in like may okay so so yeah, this works. That's a long time between filming it and it coming out.
Do you... I would forget everything I did.
Is that a weird experience to have filmed a movie, have a year and a half of life go by, and then be like, oh shit, yeah, I did do this movie. It's coming out now.
Yeah, because it's happened. There's been movies I've done that have like even more time has passed and I've like given up on them ever coming out and then they come out and you're like oh okay that's and then you're watching it and you're like oh wow I hadn't even seen the movie yeah I watched it for the first time at the premiere because I like finally got around to watching the link and like my power went out and I was like I think it's a sign I think I just need to watch it at the premiere for the first time but i like them i like watching them for the first time with the audience yeah yeah get the vibe yeah because like when we do our our job is very different than making movies but like when we do something it comes out right away so it's like you know what i mean like it's it's it's instant we tape a podcast we do a video it's like boom it So you remember everything and you can converse about it.
If we wait, like, we do interviews sometimes where we won't release it for, you know, two weeks. And I will not remember anything we talked about.
But you guys are also saying a lot more things. True.
Yeah, that's accurate. It's just not a good thing.
Do you guys get post-podcast anxiety where you sometimes finish and you go, what have I said? There are sometimes, yeah. Well, during the show, we'll say something and then immediately afterwards realize that we were 100% incorrect on it.
Yeah. And then you have to wait.
It's like a 12-hour death sentence where it's like, okay, this is going to come out. Everyone's going to be mad because I mixed up Zay Flowers and Trey Flowers' name.
And so I just have to be prepared to see that nonstop tomorrow morning. It is funny because I think we've been doing it long enough that I can pretty much tell you the minute we finish a show, if I'm like, you know, some shows are just not the best shows.
Some shows are like that we crushed it. I can tell you right away, like, that was an awesome one.
And like sometimes I'd be like, that was a good one. You know, move the ball down the field.
Yeah. Wasn't anything special.
So I know right away. But yeah, PFT's right.
When you know you fuck up a fact, and you're like, I'm going to wake up tomorrow, and all my tweets are going to be like, how could you say this? I'm like, just got to live with that. But then you do it again, what, the next day? Yeah, then we screw something else up.
And then people move on. Just keep moving it.
I'm curious to know how young you think you could play in a movie.

Like, what's your Hollywood age range that you have right now?

Dude, I think it's getting...

I'm getting further away from my 20s.

But I think I could still play like 25.

Okay.

Yeah?

Okay.

Not a high schooler anymore?

I don't think so.

Maybe in Greece.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Those movies always make me laugh so hard.

And TV shows especially where there's somebody who's very clearly in their 30s, and they're playing like a high school junior. But I also, I was watching a movie.
It was called, I think it was called The Idol Maker. I don't know if you guys have seen this movie.
But at one point in the movie, this guy says, Mom, I'm only 27. And I'm looking at this actor this actor and i'm like there's no way you're 27 he's got like a receding hairline he's like i in my head 45 right and i look him up because i'm curious to see how old he was when he filmed the movie and he was 27 and i was like oh people did look a little older yeah yeah cigarettes cigarettes and no sunscreen yeah i think that's a part of it those things definitely everyone's smoking cigarettes in bars it'd be funny if they did like an american pie like coming of age story for high schoolers and everybody was in their 40s like blatantly too old yeah we're like all the high school kids were just middle age i would watch that yeah i would watch that for sure so are you um so you're you're a star you're a movie star we've we've been over this yes ever since ever since pmt eight years ago that's a fact you went from youtube to being a movie star went from youtube to part of my take yeah and then straight to the film business yeah and then it just it actually uh what was that what was that woman's name uh bobby althoff where they're like she's a plant yes jimmy's actually a plant he's a pmt plant he's an industry plant i was a pmt the studio execs were like let's plug this guy into pmt and see where it goes and then and then it happened they were like holy shit holy fuck who who is the next guy that they've planted two two dudes that didn't even uh know who jimmy was interviewed him and man it's going awesome.
All right. So, but are we, are we ready for like our first, like super serious? Let's win an Oscar role.
I think you should. I think there might be one that he's working on right now.
Can I throw one? Oh yeah. Well, I just watched, I just Unknown with Timothee Chalamet.
Yes. It was awesome in it.
What if we did the Sublime story and you were Bradley? Dude, they're actually working on that. Oh, really? Shit.
And I actually was going to audition for it. Oh.
But it said you have to know how to sing. And I was like, dude, I can't.
Yeah. I can't sing.
Yeah. That's, I have no faith in my singer.
You would have had the SoCal thing down, though. Yeah, I would have had the SoCal thing down, but he's a singer.
Yeah. The guy is a singer.
So they need somebody that can sing. Like, is Chalamet going to play Brad Knoll too? I think he's...

Chalamet will be playing everyone from now on.

Is anyone who can sing?

Yeah.

That would be perfect for you.

And I'm glad that they're making that movie.

Yeah.

That's everything that I want out of a biopic.

But yeah, playing somebody else.

Have you ever done that?

Have you ever had to go back and play somebody who existed

and you learn all about them?

Yeah, I played this guy uh bert kreischer oh yeah and i mean i really had to dig to dig deep uh to get in touch with who he was back back then um yeah that's that's the only biopic i've done i think like i've i've taken a bit of a stance against biopics i'm somewhat anti-biopic really yeah why i just think enough okay we've done them all and people are starting to get the rights to stories before they're even done happening yeah Like, it's like something, like news breaks. Like the Luigi Mangione thing happened.

Yeah, oh yeah and then it's like someone gets the rights the next day yeah like dude this hasn't even finished happening yet let the story at least end before you buy the rights to it and start casting someone to play the person counterpoint uh i don't read and that's how i learn about things through somewhat fictional yes yes that's so you're kind of you're making me even dumber than i am and i'm already pretty dumb so i need because i'll go see a biopic i'll watch it and be like oh that was kind of cool and then i'll read the guy's wikipedia and i'll be like oh cool and then i'll forget about it but that was like that that was kind of cool. And then I'll read the guy's Wikipedia and I'll be like, oh, cool.
And then I'll forget about it. But that was like that.
That's kind of how I learned now. So you think pretty much every notable thing that's happened follows for some reason, like the same story structure.
Yes. Yes.
Like they're all kind of. It's weird.
There's always a love interest halfway through. Yeah.
They always like get a girlfriend. Yeah.
They all get into drugs. Yeah.
Struggles. Then.
Then they hit it. And then they're a little too, they hit the fame a little too hard.
Yeah, it is crazy. Then they give a good speech at the end and talk about how they turn their life around.
And then after that, everything's great. Yeah.
It's pretty cool. Yeah.
I actually, when we were shooting this movie, this was one of my first experiences with Reese. Witherspoon.
Witherspoon. Have you heard of the restaurant in LA? Like two years ago, it was like the number one restaurant in LA.
And it came out that the head chef had been murdering cats. What? Wow.
Yeah, I remember that. What's the place called? Wild Jacking Off.
Oh. It's not the same guy who had to come out and say that he never jerked off on his cat, right? No, that guy didn't come anywhere near his cat.
The cat wasn't in the room. Because that also happened.
No. So this was a real thing that happened in LA.
Okay. And this story broke.
What restaurant What restaurant? It was called, I don't want to put him on blast, but it was called. Well, I mean, it sounds like if he's murdering cats and jerking off on them.
The New York Times put out the article. So, you know, it's public knowledge, but it was called Horses.
And it was like. The restaurant was called Horses.
It was called Horses. And then the chef accused her husband of killing their cat.
Yeah. Like the divorce proceedings came out.

Oh.

And apparently the husband had been murdering cats.

Okay.

So like when this story broke, it was huge news.

Everyone's phones are going off and I'm on set of the movie

and I'm like seeing this and I get the text and I'm like,

oh my God.

And Meredith Hagner, who plays my wife, is like, what? And I tell her and i'm like oh my god and meredith hagner who plays my wife is like what and i tell her and she goes oh my god right as reese walks up and reese is like what and i'm like oh no it's just it's it's it's nothing you know i don't want to be the i don't want to be the guy that's like telling her this it's like my second interaction with her you know i don't want to have to tell her this story yeah so i'm like ah it's just you know some crazy story in la mirror's like tell her jimmy like okay well you know the restaurant horses she's like yeah apparently the chef's been he's been murdering cats it's like oh my god i'm like i know right and walk away. And they're just like, no, Jimmy, tell her the rest.

While jacking off.

She was like,

oh my god.

And I'm like,

that's now my first impression.

I'm the guy that was like,

I'm like the cat jack off guy.

Yeah, yeah.

You were looking at your phone

looking for stories about masturbating.

Yeah, and I'm like, this is not how i wanted my first impression to go here yeah my google alert went off it was a jack-off cat story i got it set up but that actually i mean i've always google alerts it's thrilling to break news to people i don't know if that's the news you want to break to someone but it is thrilling to break news it is i just didn't want to be the guy breaking that news because then I was like, there's an immediate association now with me and this story. Yeah.
Yeah, she looks at you and she thinks of cats being come on. Yeah.
In my head, that's what was about to happen. Now Netflix has the rights to the story, so it's going to be into a movie.
That's really what it is. Anytime something happens, you see people immediately just say like, oh, I can't wait for the Netflix documentary about this.
I said this on set, and then one of the producers was like, I hear her almost say to herself, I wonder who has the rights. I was like, are you serious? This happened today.
Yeah. Oh, you should, when they do the Hawk Tua story, maybe you can be pook.
Yeah. Or just a Pookie documentary.
Yeah. There's a lot out there.
A lot of meat on that. Is she still going? Is she still on her run? I don't think so.
Or did the whole meme coin thing kind of. The rug pull.
Did you invest in that? Dude, I lost it all, man. Yeah.
Someone had an incredible tweet that basically was like, did you ever go on the show Ellen? Ellen DeGeneres? Did you ever go on her talk show? No but I know the tweet you're talking about Yeah someone was essentially like it's very clear now that Ellen DeGeneres was the apex predator in Hollywood and she would take if she was still doing her show she'd have Hawk Tua on for 10 minutes and like chew her up for all the content, spit her out and we'd never hear from her again and now ellen we just have these people running around she did it to damn daniel remember it's like it's like yellowstone it's like yellowstone we need the wolves yeah the wolves need to be there ellen was the wolf and now we have all these people who get a little bit of fame and they just become they're selling meme coins and stuff damn daniel fucking uh alex from target i just saw a photo that was like alex from target turned 27 today yeah right what was that from uh from american sniper there's there's wolves there's sheep dogs and there's sheep yeah right i guess ellen she was the sheep dog yeah so she's protecting the sheep us from the wolves out yeah right like damn daniel just takes them spits them out and now we got costco guys who are going to be, I mean, I love the Costco guys, but they're going to be around forever.

You should probably, maybe that's the youngest you can play.

Maybe you can play Big Justice.

Are you familiar with the Costco guys?

No, wait.

Oh, God.

I'm so jealous of you.

Boom.

Oh, they're the, that's what I was thinking.

I didn't know they were the Costco.

Why are they the Costco guys?

That's where they started.

They just started doing videos in Costco.

That's like the Wizzler, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And his older brother and dad?

No, they're not related.

I'm happy that you don't know this fully because it's always,

whenever I have to explain this to someone, I feel so much shame.

Yeah.

Like, yeah, so there are these guys, and they do these videos,

and they just say boom, and they're like, what?

Why is that funny? I'm like, you wouldn't get it, man they're the ones that have they have the the podcast room next door right yeah yeah right exactly we're trying to hire a risler yeah he'd be a perfect will compton he is like remember little terrio yeah yep yeah he played i think college football somewhere yeah all these guys are getting older and it's it's it's shocking to see them not just staying the same age yeah like little terrio he was like 12 and he was like smoking blunts with rappers and stuff yeah and everyone's like man it's so funny he was like almost like hasboula yeah but he was actually 12 yeah so it was certainly not okay i think the is just an american response to hasboula i think that we saw what they were doing and we're like we have to develop our own right and then we get then we get the risler aren't you happy that you've gotten into movies and like this because like there was probably a career path for you when you were like starting out on youtube that you would have right now you'd be like i have to do a collab with big justice and the risler that would be tough yeah trying to wrangle To keep the money coming in. And also like getting a no.
Yeah. Like, hey, so he's a bit busy.
And you're like bummed. You hate to admit it, but you're kind of bummed.
Yeah. Fuck, man.
I was really banking on doing this collab with the Rizzler. Yeah.
And he's 12 and he just big leagued me. The Rizzler's probably too late to go to a Diddy party, right? Yes.
What were the Diddy parties like?

Oh, man.

No, dude, I actually... Well said.

I was...

I'm not going to say I was offended,

but it just seems like a lot of people...

Got invited.

Got invited.

You think anybody's lied about going to a Diddy party right now

just for the clout?

Oh. Hey, heads up.
Yes, I was there a couple times, but I always left before midnight. So anyone that's saying I was there after midnight, that's a lie.
And they just weren't there at all. Do you think the reverse is it? Yeah, the reverse.
Yeah. People like five years ago were like, yeah, I've been to a bunch of Diddy parties.
And now they have to retroactively be like, I was lying about that. Oh, that.
Yeah. Like, I actually wasn't there.
I was just trying to be cool. Because we were like, hey, haven't you? You went, right? You used to go all the time, right? Yeah, yeah.
I was lying. Yeah.
I lied. You used to cancel a date.
Sorry, Diddy invited me. I got to go.
Yeah. And then you end up marrying that chick later.
Yeah, this guy I was seeing used to go to a lot of diddy oh the bridesmaids reading the texts after like their first date that they they got sent when you knew she was the one now he couldn't make it to the second one because he was at a diddy party oh no that doesn't look so good that's not as romantic as i thought right now um so uh i think i because we played we had you on right before Beer Olympics. Yeah.
And then we played disc golf in Grit Week. Yeah.
I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast yet, but Real Bros was great. Thank you.
You literally had a storyline about podcasters. I know.
And you told us we were going to be in it, and then it just popped up. And it was not just one podcaster was not just one podcast it was multiple podcasters and it was it seemed like we could have just done a clip from this studio and just sent it to you yeah and been like here this is a a five second cameo that you can use you know i i i said i said it before i'll say it again there's There's no excuses.
I, you know, I fucked up. I fucked up.

Well, in reality, I think me and Big Cat would have just, like, the opportunity to say no. Yeah.
Because we're very lazy. We never got the opportunity to say no.
If you had said, hey, we got a spot for you. We rode it in.
All you have to do, fly out to L.A. for two days, shoot your shots, go back.
Then we would have been like, ah, that's a lot that's uh that's a lot of travel that was where my head was at it was a 10 day shoot so it was you know we had to move fast and uh yeah but like i said you know in hindsight i fucked up okay i appreciate that but i did want to ask you mentioned hasboula was curious, what happened to that guy? Is he still going strong? I think he is. He used to grace my feet all the time.
Yeah. He was really active, and I haven't seen him in months, maybe a year.
Yeah, he'd be like punching some random celebrity all the time. Yeah.
That was like his job. He'd be slapping someone, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. I do think that the Rizzler just took over.
You think he took Hasbulla's spot? I think the Rizzler might be CIA. I also think it was bad when Mike Tyson met Hasbulla and thought he was an actual baby.
Yeah. And like picked him up and was taken away.
Yeah. Yeah.
I would like to see proof of life for Hasbulla though. Yeah.
It would be nice. Yeah.
Do you think he hates the Rizzler? Do you think there's beef? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
For sure. Has to be.

Has to be. I mean, the Rizzler's, he's a star.
You'll be playing the Rizzler at some point. Should we talk about LeBron James completely hijacking your organization? We can talk about it, yeah.
I'm open to discussing it. How dynamic of an athlete do you think Bronny will be i was alarmed to find out he was only six foot one yeah i mean that was a while ago now but i guess in my head he was like six seven yeah yeah and then when they said he was six one i was like i just changed my whole perception of of his size his levitism, all of it.
Yeah. And 6'1", that's short in the NBA.
That's small. Yeah.
He doesn't look small, though. And the way he's dunking, it doesn't look 6'1".
Well, he was listed at, what, 6'4 in college? Yeah, I think so. I think so, and then they measured him at the comp.
That's a tough three inches. Is that a shoes off 6'1"? I think so.
I think that's how they measure, yeah. But, like, why do they measure it? They're wearing shoes on the court? I guess so that everybody, so that some people, occasionally I will wear my shoes that are my tall shoes.
What are your tall shoes? I'm not wearing them right now, but my tall shoes, they're- Are they hokas? Because hokas have a lot of. They're Nike 720s, and they're honestly about two inches in the heel.
Wow. That I can pick up on a good day.
So I know when I'm wearing my tall shoes. Yeah.
If we have a tall guest coming in where they're like six foot seven, I will put on my tall shoes and still get roasted in the picture afterwards. And then what do you jump up to with your tall shoes on? I jump up to probably 5'10".
Yeah. Huge.
yeah i think that's probably why because you could wear your tall shoes at the combine when you measure in yeah but like you can't really wear tall basketball shoes i don't know i guess my my argument is you're not on the court barefoot yeah i i do think that there's a case to be made that lebron james is a great dad he's a fantastic dad. Yeah, he's a very good dad.
For getting his son drafted. Yeah.
Like, who wouldn't want that? No, I think if you can do it, you do it. Yeah.
If you have a chance to play with your kid, you play with your kid. Yeah.
It's an absolute no-brainer situation for LeBron. Mm-hmm.
But this iteration of the Lakers does feel like it's just basically LeBron's doing, like a legacy couple of years here where he's like, I'm just going to do, which again, I would probably do the same thing where it's like, Hey, I've done everything. I've played in the NBA for 20 plus years.
I'm just going to do whatever I want, hire whoever I want, have fun. But it's got to be a little frustrating watching the Lakers being like, Hey, can we try to win games? Yeah, it's, I mean, the second we drafted him, I knew I was like, damn it, we just signed up for a novelty situation.
Yeah, right. Which I'm happy for him.
But they got the photos. They got the photos already.
Yeah. Of him.
They're on the court doing the dad-son hug. Some passes.
I think maybe they just are waiting to get like an an oop yeah and then once they get the oop then then it's like okay we can move on if you got cut the next day i i thought it would have been perfect if they got him on the court that first night and he took a three i think that was his first shot if he just drains a three and then checks out and everyone like standing round of applause and you never hear from him again and then you never know what he could have done yeah because then the legend would grow they'd be like he might have been better than yeah right and he'd also be like LeBron James played the most amount of minutes in NBA history and Bronny James Jr. played the least amount of minutes played 30 seconds it would have been so good that would have cool.
Are we at the point where we can say the once proud Laker franchise when talking about the Brawny situation?

No, that's absurd.

We're talking about a dynasty here.

Of what?

Of a franchise.

Of family.

Okay.

But right now.

Don't you have to wait?

Once proud.

No, no. No, no.
It's an always proud situation. Always proud.
But the once proud franchise has now turned itself over completely to LeBron James. It's not once proud.
Once proud would be like the Patriots. Okay.
The Patriots were once proud. proud now they are not so proud but the patriots won a super bowl when was the last time they won the super bowl i mean the lakers haven't won a title since he's gonna count 2020 yeah yeah he is gonna try to count 2020 i'm gonna count 2020 okay well we don't count 2020 yeah but you have to count 2020 well you don't we literally don't so i mean i think 2020 is you take all the fans out it's gonna do the hardest thing it's it's the only correct response that you're doing yeah they went to fucking basketball camp in orlando they didn't have to travel weird that the old guy who didn't have to travel or play any away games end up winning the home court advantage it just it's just them in there this is if anything it should count more.
This is sounding like he's not proud. If anything, 2020 counts the most.
This is the correct answer, though. If you're defending the Lakers, you have to go all the way in the other direction.
Yeah, absolutely. Listen, you take out all the distractions and you just boil that game down to who's truly the best.
Everyone plays on the same court. Everyone plays the same court.
No traveling for the guy who's in his late 30s. No traveling.
You know, tougher on those young guys. They haven't traveled as long.
Yeah. So if anything, they had the advantage.
They enjoyed it more. They don't have families.
He had to deal with missing his family. Oh, yeah.
The older guys have to deal with that. Yeah, that's true.
If anything, that was just a testament. Are you at the level where you can get courtside Lakers tickets? Do they give them to you? No.
I've been courtside. I have a buddy who has some courtside okay how does that work do they give i would assume half of the celebrities i think a lot of a lot of uh agencies have have uh courtside tickets so then if you like really i mean like they usually give them to like like you'll see like rihanna like i think you know you're onihanna.
She has no ball. Me.
Yeah. Listen, we're the number one Jimmy Tatro podcast because we need you to be an A-lister so we can be, like, our A-list friend, Jimmy Tatro.
I, no, I was actually supposed to be, I was under the impression I had a courtside ticket to the Knicks last night. Oh.
My manager was like, hey, got us courtside tickets. And then we ended up being in the third row.

Oh, no.

Which, you know, I didn't want to be complaining.

Were you on the Jumbotron?

I did go on the Jumbotron.

From the third row?

Fuck.

Yeah.

That's brutal.

So what, was it Kiss Cam or something?

Yeah.

Me and him.

Me and him.

That's tough.

Third row. How did you deal with that? At that point, you would almost not want to be on the Jumbotron.
Yeah. They're like, hey, can we show you? I was like, you're still showing me? Yeah.
Could you hear Spike Lee? He was pretty close. I couldn't hear him, but he was like, I mean, I don't think he was very vocal last night.
I think I would have heard him he was even he was like 10 15 feet away yeah i respect spike lee because after all these years like he's still at knicks games just that's the thing i think he probably cares about the knicks more than anything else in his life yeah like that's a guy that cares about basketball i mean how if you look at the amount of knicks games he's been to compared to i mean what's his last movie was it Black Klansman I believe so I don't know I don't know if there's a while ago another joint since then how come he gets to say a Spike Lee joint nobody else gets to say joint yeah why don't we get a Jimmy Tatro joint I guess you could say joint I don't know what that means like credit wise if you put joint up there like if it if it like fucks something up yeah in the paperwork and maybe he just doesn't care. Like maybe he's getting like a joint by credit instead of like a created or written.
Yeah. He doesn't have any writing credits.
It's just jointed by. It's so funny because he also, when you talk to somebody about Spike Lee films, like I was talking to my mom when Black klansman came out and she said i'm going to

go see the spike lee joint at the theaters my mom said my mom's like 80 yeah it's a spike lee joint i love that yeah yeah it is pretty cool how you can brand yourself that way yeah he's cornered the markets of joints so uh it's a tatro bong yeah i got a tatro what bong yeah bong bong is better than a joint.

I thought you said

bomb.

Oh, that works too.

A daydrow bomb.

A chibi. I did a Tatro what? Bong.
Bong? Bong is better than a joint. I thought you said bomb.
Oh, that works too. A Tatro bomb.
A Jimmy Tatro bomb. It should be a cool thing.
Like a bomb should be a good thing, I feel like, in movies. Like a bomb, like a fucking boom.
Yeah, but no, it's not. It's bad.
It's bad. It's bad.
Maybe I could rebrand bomb, a Jimmy Tatro bomb. I like that.
Yeah, you could. You could try.
I could try. We'll support it.
Is Real Bros done? I think so. Ah.
I love it so much. For now, at least.
I mean, I... So you're not saying maybe it still has something? Yeah.
Not... It's...
We did what we... we gave it the ending we wanted to give it we had

tony hawk play adult hawk hawk's older than me hawk dies of old age spoiler alert if you haven't

seen yeah but like i really saw hawk dying as being like that's it the ending maybe there's

you know a spinoff somewhere down the road i don't know but it's not what i'm thinking about i'm focused on other things i just love it so much uh everyone should go watch it watch the the seasons as well um yeah that makes sense though yeah it was a good movie and you put obviously like a lot of time a lot of thought your heart into writing this series and now you know you're you're doing a lot of acting are you still carving out time to like work on writing yeah so i'm working on another show right now that uh it is i don't want to jinx anything so i don't want to say anything that hasn't happened but it's set in the snow. Okay.

And there's a wood chipper and they're dogs and one guy oh one guy's a car salesman there that's not where my head was at but there there could be dogs do they have boners is it animated it? It's not animated. It's not animated.
Set in the snow. I watched this French avalanche movie.
It fucking sucked. Don't do that.
The Alpinist? Yeah, that shit sucked. Yeah, I heard the ending is no good.
I don't even know if it was that. Was it Alpinist? The Alpinist? That was the mountain climbing movie? No, it was literally a French movie where they were all at a resort, and then there was an avalanche, and the husband didn't immediately save the kids and wife, and then it was just boring as fuck.
It was in French? Yeah, I think so. I think that was probably the issue for me.
Who was the main French guy? I don't know. I'll look it up.
Don't do that movie is what I'm saying. You don't strike me as the kind of guy that'd be watching French films.
I got tricked into it. I started it, and I think the avalanche happens really quickly, so you get hooked, and then you're like, wait, is this subtitles the whole time? That just kind of fucked me up.
I'm a subtitles guy all the time, by the way. I'm a big subtitles guy.
Do you know what? Actually, can you do this for me? Because I did go to the movies last week. can you talk to someone in hollywood there needs to be an option like they have an imax option they need a subtitles option i completely agree with this yeah i was actually thinking it'd be cool if there was like because i get subtitles when i go to the movies because i can't hear very well yeah but like when you buy a subtitle device i mean you don't you don't buy it but when you get a you can go to any theater and say can i get subtitles for the movie oh i didn't know that yeah but how do you do that well you don't want to do it because what they hand you is this three foot long metal stick where you stick the end in the cup holder and then you like crank the subtitle into position in front of you.
On a screen. So there's like a little screen that you get that has kind of a shield around it.
So the people like to your right and above you can't like there's no light. I didn't even know this.
So you angle it so it's right under the screen. And then you kind of have to like because it's so close refocus.
Oh. do that and it is like loud like if you want to move it it's like and you're walking around you know getting popcorn holding this massive pole i'm like i just want to understand the movie yeah And you got me walking around this theater looking like a fucking idiot.

Yeah, I had no idea that these existed. I didn't either.

Yeah. Do they like check some sort of card for me or anyone can get it? Yeah, I bring my hearing test and slide it across.
Yeah. And they say, yep.
Wait, so you get that every time? I do, but a lot of times, like IMAX,

they don't do it for like 70mm IMAX.

So they need to have it be a theater where it's just subtitles.

Yeah, they do need that because I'll go to... Yeah.

Like I went to...

I forget.

I saw one recently and it was 70mm IMAX.

And I was like, hey, could I get the subtitles?

And they go, oh, no. this is 70 millimeter imax and i was like yeah no i'm aware yeah and they're like yeah that would ruin the viewing experience but i can't hear what if i can't hear well how about my viewing experience yeah yeah um by the way the movie was called force majeure sucked.'t watch it force force majeure force majeure but i didn't i didn't used to do that but my brother he has a worse hearing loss than me volleyball player volleyball deaf volleyball shout out olympics is he going to the olympics tokyo in november is that the olympics that's the deaf olympics he was in the deaf world championships last time i talked to you guys yeah so the deaf olympics this upcoming november this upcoming november tokyo what are the expectations i'm going baby yes are they are they the top seed they are not the top seed no turkey i think is the top seed they're good do they really like are there any times controversies well i that but Would it even help? The Turkish team, well, because you can't communicate.
Got it. So, like, there's a lot of communication in volleyball.
You have to take your hearing aids out. You can't talk to each other.
You can only sign. But I was, like, you know, seeing these Turkish guys, and I'm like, I'd like to see some hearing tests.
Yeah. I don't think that guy's deaf enough.
You should behind him like hey yeah hey i don't know if i told you this last time but there was one time where they would like keep playing the whistle would blow but like yeah they can't hear the whistles yeah so they just keep going and going and just stop please stop turn on like a giant red light in the stadium yeah how does the deaf track meet go yeah you know the gun goes off and everyone's just you got it we got to win can we bet we got to figure our way to bet on there yeah you can definitely bet on us i want you guys to win is this uh is this indoor volleyball or is this beach volleyball indoor yeah so we're expecting So we're expecting gold. We would like gold.
I'm expecting gold. You have to expect it.
I'm expecting gold. We're expecting gold.
We are. I'm expecting gold.
But he was the one that introduced me to this whole, I didn't even know, like, go to theaters and do that. Yeah.
So now I do, but I'm embarrassed about it. Yeah.
They need to make it so it's shame-free. Shame-free.
Give anybody, and I guess everybody does have the option, but put it, yeah, make it well known to everyone. We're going to do this.
It's going to have subtitles. And also when you ask the people, they all have them, but everyone's response is, oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I'm like, did you have to react like that like no one has ever asked for this before dust them off yeah call their manager yeah yeah if i was you know a little more anal about things i could i'd cause a ruckus about this you should yeah you should absolutely cause i like watching uh i watch squid games but i do it with not the subtitles i do it just with the overdubs which i guess is is bad for the actor right because you don't want to do the dub you lose out on all the actual inflection and the acting of it but also i'm very lazy and sometimes i'd rather just hear than have to read well also with the with the dub you lose other sounds too you know yeah because think about it like if they're on set or like if they're recording our our dialogue and you know you're hearing you know i sit down you hear the the couch as i'm talking you know and that's in the same sound clip when you dub it you lose other sounds yeah so then they gotta like manufacture it like little things they don't like put a chair in the recording studio and have you sit down as you're talking i don't think so have you ever done any dub work i did i dubbed a animated movie from japanese to english called airbound and i played a mouse named mat.
Oh, that's a big role. It was huge.
But it's funny because they give you the script and it's the same sentence somewhat, but they write it in a way where it kind of looks like what's being said so you're trying to match to what already exists whereas when you do it the other way around you record all the audio and then they animate to your voice yeah so it's harder to to dub so you have to like get notes about what the other voice actor where the inflection was how it was said and then you try to mimic that the best that you can pretty much like you see it and then you see the line and you're like try to match it as well as you can it's not it's not going to be perfect but you just try to match it as well as you can i also learned on that thing that like when it's a kid's show everything goes up you know like i'd be like here we go here we go they're like no here we go oh yeah everything has to be exciting I know watching shows my kids they all have the same it goes up yeah it drives me nuts it's not how I say things but that's like what the kids just here we go yeah cuz in a kids like every two seconds, you have to actively keep the kid's attention.

Yeah.

Right.

Something exciting is happening.

What are your kids watching?

Right now, big into Minions, which is, I love Minions.

That's awesome, because Minions are, I love the Minions.

Yeah, they're hilarious.

Moana 2, I've been watching that a couple times.

But then it's like, we'll mix in the, like, there's this, like, Ms., it's not Ms. Rachel,

there's Ms. Rachel, but there's like a Ms.
Katie or something that she sings songs, and I want to just put a bullet in my head. What about Blippi? Blippi they watch, which I know the backstory of Blippi, and I don't know if I'll ever tell my kids that.
Is it dark? No, it's not dark. Biopic coming? Yeah.
Blippi made probably the funniest video I can ever... I think the funniest internet video, if I had to pick one all time, Blippi created it, but then has gotten scrubbed from the internet.
So it was... What was the Harlem Shake? Remember the Harlem Shake fad? There was a Harlem Shake.
It was two guys doing the Harlem Shake and the beat drops, and they're in the bathroom. And then when the beat drops, I can't remember if it was Blippi or his friend, but whatever it is, one of the guys was then taking a shit across the bathroom into the other guy's asshole, and I've never laughed harder.
Projectile diarrhea. It is.
You can't find the video anymore. It was one of the funniest videos i've ever watched in my entire life and that's blippy yeah and that's yeah that's blippy that's what my kids watch that's blippy yeah yeah was the harlem shake 10 years ago it was nine i think right yeah we did one one of our first videos that big cat and i ever did we were at the uh niagara, right? Yeah.
And dressed up as a couple Canadian guys

in 2016. That was a mannequin challenge.

Oh, that was a mannequin challenge. Oh, a mannequin challenge.
Okay, yeah.

Harlem Shake. Yeah, it was probably 10 years ago.
Yeah.

Thanks, Hank. But that's...
Yeah, they watch

Blippi. They like Blippi and I'm just sitting there like,

alright. The Niagara Falls Museum

is at Niagara Falls?

That's amazing, yeah. Is it just a room

with a window where you can look at Niagara Falls

and that's the museum? They have dioramas

in there of like, this happened

near Niagara Falls at some point

I'm not going to found a couple bodies. They had to do an ecological study or whatever you call it.
You've never seen this picture? I've never understood damning things. How do you first stop the water in order to build the thing that stops the water? Dams freak me out.
Oh, that's a good question. I don't really know.
I have the same question about cranes, about giant cranes. When you see a huge one that's taller than any building in the city,

how do they build that crane?

Was there another crane, a bigger crane that came in?

Tunnels.

Tunnels blow my mind underwater.

Dams do freak me out.

Just underwater engineering in general.

No idea how it gets done.

Find the picture.

Some questions are better left unanswered.

He wasn't listening.

Niagara Falls when they stopped it.

That's a good Google search. Niagara Falls when they stopped it that's a good google search when they stopped it there it is niagara falls picture stopped 1969 look at that they just stopped that shit isn't that crazy if you told me that was like a little like a really little yeah it doesn't look as good yeah it doesn't look as impressive but yeah they stopped it.
I think there's like four of them and they stopped three out of four of them. Pretty crazy, huh? We used to go over Niagara Falls and barrels all the time.
We as a species. Yeah.
And there hasn't been a barrel guy for a while. Pussification of America.
Yeah. There's a lot of jump guys that jump off of high.
I watch those videos. Dude, my feed has been taken over by these guys.
Yeah. They do like 10 backflips and then just land in water.
Yeah. Oh, those guys.
I thought you were talking about the skyscraper guys like in Russia, but yeah, the guys who are doing the jumps and they always do the thing where they get their hands and their feet together at the end. Oh, the death dives? Yeah.
They throw a rock to break the tension. Yeah.
And then there's like some dude in Norway who's jumping like 180 feet. With the hammers? Yeah.
Have you seen that guy? It's crazy. With the two axes? I watch it every time.
I'm like, why the axes? It's cool. So this guy takes two axes and he just jumps off cliffs into the water? Jumps off a cliff and like axes the water when he lands.
Yeah. That's pretty fucking badass.
It is badass.

Yeah, I love that.

Yeah.

Yeah, the feed, like seeing all these guys that it's just so funny to think about like 20 years ago.

Like were these people doing this thing or was it because social media now exists that everyone's got their thing?

And they keep pushing the record.

Yeah.

Like the world record death dive. Oh, yeah.
We're going to watch them oh yeah we're gonna watch them die yeah someone the winner will die yeah and i will watch it it will i'll see it on my instagram feed and be like sensitive content are you seeing a lot of videos because i'm seeing a lot i'm seeing a lot of i wish i was seeing less death i saw a lot of death like four months ago yeah i feel like that's when it was always like the next video you be watching on x and uh then the autoplay next video would be like somebody getting shot in el salvador yeah and it was like there's just there's too much death going on social media right now i don't know if i changed something or if they changed something but i feel like i haven't seen as much recently yeah there was a stretch where i'm pretty sure i saw every single person die in the ukraine war yeah. Like, I just saw every single soldier that died.
I just saw them. I would see, it would seem like an unsuspecting video.
It would be like, the definition of fuck around and find out. Yeah.
And I'd be like, oh, cool, it's going to be a little fight or something. And it'd be like, you know, an argument, and then someone pulls out a gun and, like, kills someone.
Yeah. And I'd be like, dude, it's 9 a.m.
Yeah, or it would be like a drone footage of a barren wasteland. You're like, oh, this is interesting.
What the hell is this place? And then it just goes down and it's 10 feet above some soldier just begging for his life. And then they kill him.
And it's like, oh, okay. I guess I watched that.
I deleted X. What? The Everything app? It all happens on X.
Why? it was just depressing me everything i was seeing on

there was just like i'm jealous it was just bad i didn't like anything i was seeing and i was like i'll go on here i see depressing information and just terrible opinions and then i get mad wait so are you is your relationship with the internet now like you don't get any feedback because that's incredible no i mean i still like i'm still on like instagram right but is are you getting feedback there like are you looking at the comment section like are you getting are you just living your life essentially which is sounds incredible i think so that's awesome but like feedback in what sense like you read the comments, obviously, on your Instagram posts. Yeah, I don't read all of them, but I see the- Yeah, peruse.
See them. Yeah.
Yeah, okay. But it's not like when I was posting YouTube videos where I would- Read all the comments.
When I would post every week. You guys are posting things consistently, so there's kind like a feedback dynamic.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess what Big Cat means is just like reading all the comments. Like you post anything and then people have an opportunity to tell you what you screwed up.
And then you focus on those people and then you get bummed out. You don't do that.
You don't live that lifestyle. Not anymore, no.
That's awesome. That's pretty good.
I do like the idea of you because you don't't have Twitter anymore, like, if you don't post a lot on Instagram, like, maybe you go, like, six months, and then someone finally gets their takeoff about, like, real bros. They've just been waiting for you to post something so they can comment under it.
Bring something up from two years ago. Yeah, oh, there you are.
Yeah, oh, finally. Yeah, finally.
I got some shit to say. Why'd you choose this plot point? I got him.
Finally. The color was all off in this scene.
Yeah. I mean, I can give you just a roundup of what you missed from the last time that you posted on X.
Okay. What was the last time I posted? How long ago was it? This will forever be the best prank of all time.
And it's a bunch of guys moving a storage unit and porta-potties. Dude, that prank is incredible.
Have you seen seen that break i'm watching it right now for the first time uh it looks pretty good looks like a great prank so you posted that on september 18th 2024 the first reply is dollar sign xrp you want to make a thousand dollars right now just did and then nothing else see what i mean you missed that guy that guy tried to make you a thousand dollars like what are you doing it's also all the replies are like unrelated now like they're yeah oh yeah they're like random like people just send random things now and reply stupid shit yeah just a bunch of yeah i don't like it over there yeah um all right i had to get out of there i got one last question for you jimmy thank you for coming by way For people Jimmy's been our good friend for How many years is it now? I don't know When was the first time I came on PMT? 2018 2019 I want to say 2019 Whenever your career really took off Yeah It might have been Whenever your tax bracket went to the highest Oh it was after the B's Yeah It was after your B's situation It was after the Yeah, because I think every time we have you on, we ask you how the bees are, and you're like, oh, I don't have bees anymore. Remember? I've been telling you that for six years.
Yeah. We're so stupid.
But it's like one of the coolest things we do in our, like one of the coolest things we get to do in this job is like become actual friends with people we interview and become part of the the show uh so and jimmy i was good what i was gonna say is jimmy was in new york last night for the premiere is flying back to la and he's like you know what i'll fucking stop in chicago and see you guys so thank you very much we appreciate that um so my last question roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh let's just go vision board what's what's the next role we want let's put into existence and then we're going to start just talking about it subtly talking about it when we have like people in the industry on we're like you know who play who do good in this role jimmy tetro that kind of stuff i think it's time for an action role yeah

i love it i think it's time for an action role on the acting side i love it on the writing side

i'm still into comedy but on the acting side i think it's time to do some action comedy

top gun three start doing some stunts while i'm still athletic jump street

i would love to do i'm getting too old but i i always wanted to do a basketball movie

Thank you. Stunts while I'm still athletic.
23 Jump Street? I would love to do... I'm getting too old, but I always wanted to do a basketball movie.
Hoosiers? The next Hoosiers? The next Hoosiers. I could, you know...
About the 2020 Lakers? Yeah. Who could have thought? LeBron measuring, yeah, the rim.
Would you play LeBron? I would play LeBron. I'd buzz the head.
I'd play Caruso.'d play caruso okay that makes sense yeah yeah i could see that that'd be perfect for sure yeah being in a sports movie would be pretty sick that would be cool because also when was the last time we had a good like big sports movie yeah it's been a while i think they just all become mini series now that's true yeah not everything needs to be a mini series i agree. Like with documentaries.
Sometimes it could be one thing. It doesn't need to be three episodes.
Just make it one doc. I'm trying to remember the last good sports movie that we had.
There really hasn't been one for a while. Yeah, I can't.
I'm at a loss. I'm thinking right now.
Anyone got one? Max Memes, you got one? Last good sports movie.

The Adam Sandler basketball one was good.

Oh, yeah.

I didn't see that.

Which one?

What did he say?

Adam Sandler basketball.

Adam Sandler basketball movie.

Oh.

Played like a scout.

Oh, Thunderstruck starring Kevin Durant.

Thunderstruck starring Kevin Durant.

I don't know if it counts, but Ironclaw was very good.

The wrestling movie. Oh, that was fantastic.
I guess that counts. Hustle is what he's talking about.
But yeah, let's get another good sports movie. I haven't seen Hustle.
What do you got, Hank? Air. Air was good, but that wasn't a lot of sports, right? Oh, Kevin James.
Oh, yeah. Kevin James.
Is this Sean Payton this is happening yeah no it happened what do you know already happened kevin james played sean sean payton yeah yeah it already happened is that out yeah oh yeah it came out like two years ago yeah real good yeah so is it funny or serious uh bad oh do you not haven't seen it't know. I haven't seen it.
Because that screenshot, that looks serious. Yeah.
Well, it was about Bounty Gate and how he went and coached. He got suspended for a year and then went and coached his kids' peewee team.
So, yeah, that happened. Wow.
Jimmy, I found an old AMA that you did, and one of the people asked you. Nothing bad.
Don't worry. One of the people asked you.
This is a terrible sentence. This is from 11 years ago, so put yourself back in that mindset.
They asked you if you could share the screen with one other actor, who would it be, and what genre. You just replied with the actors.
You gave two of them. Will Ferrell.
Oh. Check.
Second, Jim Carrey. What's Jim Carrey up to these days? I don't know jim carrey is up to these days but that is jim carrey in the grinch that was the first time i thought to myself maybe i should act really the grinch man that was the light bulb up yeah what was it about his his acting in the grinch i just remember how i felt watching the grinch like, wow, he's bringing me so much joy.
I would like to be able to bring someone this much joy. It's amazing.
Oh, he retired in 2022. I didn't know if he could do that.
But then he retired in 2022, but later returned for Sonic 3. Yeah, well, you got to come back for Sonic 3.
So it's funny to retire after Sonic 2, come back for Sonic 3 that sounds like a break

yeah that sounds like a break

that's very cool though

that 11 years ago you're like

I want to do something with Will Ferrell

and now you can go watch it on Amazon Prime

you're cordially invited

go watch it

support our guy

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just put it on

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just stream it

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I'm gonna stream it. Just stream it.
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Stream it as many times

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Why not?

All right, Jimmy.

Thank you, man.

You're the best

for coming by.

Thank you, guys.

Also, Jimmy did hit

his first shot on the court.

That's pretty sick.

After his air ball.

Yeah.

I hit my first shot.

I took one,

and then I hit the first one

right after that.

Well, you've been training

for your basketball movie that's coming up. Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly.
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And now here now here's nick right okay we now welcome on our good friend it's been too long it is long time long time it is uh nick right you can see him every day on uh fox first things first uh fox sports you can get his podcast uh with it which is what what's the name of the podcast again what's right jesus christ man you're not helping me no i'm not with nick right with my son yeah it's me and my son uh yeah subscribe follow on youtube spotify whatever it should have been the right stuff what's right's what i called my radio show when it started at syracuse and in kansas city

so all my audio stuff's always been called what's right yes um it should be the right stuff i'm just i'm not trying to tell you how to do your job but it should be the right stuff or you can call it you know what we'll consider rebranding yeah i mean that's not hard to do the right stuff like i in my head i was like it's the right stuff right because that's intuitively an incredible name and then it's like another way to look at it is that name's been taken and it's the right stuff, right? Because that's intuitively an incredible name. And then it's like, what's right?

Another way to look at it is that name's been taken

and it's been used.

And so this is new.

Can I ask PFT before?

Because I know we're going to talk chiefs.

Can I ask PFT a specific question first?

Yes.

Sorry, I'm a bad podcast guest

because I'm just used to hosting.

So I apologize.

All right.

So PFT, if I said in june of 2028 an asteroid is gonna hit peru and cause damage the likes of which we haven't seen in centuries and everyone's like you're crazy that's that would never happen it's never happened in recorded human history and then in june of 2028 an asteroid hit uruguay am i more right or than the people who said it would never happen i was dead wrong there's a reason i'm asking this but just answer that well i'd say that you're like you're off by like 900

miles that's not that's not close oh you think it's not close because I would say I'm like 99% correct 1% wrong so what is what I say let me ask you dick uh what were you wrong about that you're claiming you're right about well if in August I say for the first time in NFL history a rookie's going to be playing to go to the Superbowl and make the Superbowl. And that rookie is going to be a Heisman trophy winner.
And that rookie is going to be a top two pick. And that rookie is going to have a connection to Cliff Kingsbury.
And then this all happens. And everyone's like, Oh, you're an idiot.
You said Caleb Williams was going to make the the two ball. And I'm like, I basically called it.
I was off by, as you put, 900 miles. But I'm more right than everyone else.
Like, I am the most right about this. I'm going to disagree with you on that.
But that's okay. I think that I admire the fact that you were willing to put your balls on the line for a take.
You've never been afraid of that. In September of this year, I said, after the Commanders beat the Cardinals, I said, I think that this team can lose the NFC Championship game.
That's how good I thought they were. So in calling the NFC this year, most right PFT, second most right Nick Wright.
That's how I feel. I want to defend you Nick because I think also you were so Danny Parkins who everyone should watch his show he's with Stink and Carton and I know Danny Danny's your best friend Nick he joined Fox in the summer I always saw it as you trying to help him and being like Caleb Williams like I would watch you talk about Caleb Williams and be like he's's doing this for Danny.
I appreciate it because anyone talking about the Bears quarterback like this is awesome. So I actually don't think you were that wrong.
Have you thought about Play One's Cards Right as your name of your podcast? I'm going to think of some more. No, I'll stick with what's right.
But on the Danny note, so he in the spring was in New York for a conference and came on the show for the first

time ever and this was way before like it was even thought of between here I like wait Fox might

hire you full-time do a show and on that show we talked the Bears and Caleb because they had just

drafted him and I went over the top because I had already been a big Caleb guy with Caleb stuff. And then the second time on the show was the time when I said I might pick the Bears to make the Super Bowl.
And our group of friends was like, that might be the scummiest thing you've ever done to a friend, Nick. Like you are elbowing Danny off the Caleb corner, and I said, you got it exactly right to get.
I was like, I'm playing 40 chess, boys. I'm elevating the storyline and also making it so if Danny ends up being a full-time person here, no one can be like, oh, you're a Chicago homer, because he will be taking a more conservative position than me I saw I saw right through it I was like I actually thought it was one of the cool like best friend moves you could do because you also were just taking all the reckless takes so that he like his takes while also reckless because we all said some really reckless shit about right but they're I'm the human shield I'm gonna take shield nobody's like oh this homer from chicago everyone's like nick's an idiot yeah that's exactly how i felt about it i you know another thing i don't get enough credit for thank you so right so to any of the haters out there that might ever say nick wright sometimes says things that he doesn't truly believe no in the name of generating buzz and discussion you're saying that those people are absolutely correct no I'm not saying that at all because I thought the Bears could make the Super Bowl.
I thought they had all the things in place and evidenced by the fact that this Eagles team made it. It's pretty clear anybody could make the Super Bowl in the NFC.
What I said was, oh, I'm sorry. Is Max or Mays or Hank any of these? I don't know.
Somebody's's gonna get mad at me and they don't care um uh the no i thought that i do i to answer that and then we can talk chiefs i never say anything i don't believe i say things i believe more stridently and at a louder volume but you guys know this you do too much content to keep track of lies if i had if i had to like remember what i was supposed to believe is too many plates in the air i'm not red panda can't do that so so we should all judge basically like if you're watching nick right and i i do think you're insanely talented the more the more strident you say it the more with your chest you say it That's really like you're kind of ramping it up. Why have you never said something with your chest like, LeBron has never done steroids? Well, I mean, that's such an outrageous accusation.
Whoa, I didn't accuse LeBron of doing steroids. I said, why haven't you said LeBron has not done steroids? I mean, I don't know.
Why haven't I said Big Cat's 12 feet tall? Like, things that are obvious, you don't need to say. I just don't need to say.
You went straight to the accusation. I did not accuse LeBron of doing steroids.
I said, why haven't you said LeBron has not done steroids? Hey, can we talk about the Chiefs and about how in your guys' wonderful post-game pod? Nick, I think Big Cat brings up a good point, which is LeBron's career. Here's what I believe.
LeBron's career has been so different than anybody else's. The man is amazing.
He keeps doing stuff into his late 30s that nobody has ever dreamed of. Forget about Michael Jordan.
Forget about anybody else. This man is the best basketball player in the history of the world.
And frankly, I think that it's an outrage that more people haven't accused him of doing steroids. That's how much I love LeBron James.
It's a great point. Well, up until the dismount, I was thinking, wow, I'm on the screen for the greatest moment in part in my take history.
Like finally some truth being told about LeBron on the show that you guys don't have to bring me on to do. I didn't love the end of it, but it is, listen, and that is actually, as I try to segue to the Chiefs, a first cousin of what's happening with the Chiefs.
The Chiefs are so great that it must be a conspiracy. It must be rigged.
They have broken people's brains. In a way, those people who make those ridiculous, unfounded, without any evidence whatsoever, allegations about LeBron have broken people's brains.
But speaking of the Chiefs, can I say one thing to you guys about your post-game pod? Yes. First of all, I appreciate that you guys have.
I look at the Chiefs commentary as that bell curve meme where the dumbest people and the smartest people, if you asked them any time about football, they're all like, I don't know. the team that always wins the super bowl is probably

gonna win it yeah and then the pretend smart people are like well the ravens dvoa is top five all time and the lions point differential dan campbell's got it's like no it'll be the chiefs um the all and i appreciated that you guys have not fallen into this referee fever dream yeah Well, we still discuss it.

Yeah, we let people be angry.

Bills fans, our biggest take is I don't like when people are really far on one side or the other. We want – I thought he got a first down, but it's not the reason the Chiefs won the game.
The Chiefs won the game because they're better than the Bills and they're better coached than the Bills. But if you're a Bills fan, you should spend the next six months complaining about that first

app. Well, yeah, because it allows you to spend

the next six months not thinking about back

to back years. Josh Allen down three points

ball in his hands and zero combined

points. I know that's verboten on this show

because he's a 12 time guest and

I know that it's Sean McDermott and it's everyone

else and Josh is listen. Josh is excellent.

I also would say Kyle

like Kyle Brand who's as big of a fan

of Josh Allen as you guys tweeted right before

the drive. Josh Allen was put on this world for this drive, biggest moment of his career, whatever happens.
What happened was he got 17 yards. But my only issue was you kept saying if they scored there, it's a two-score game.
Because they would have gone for two were up one. Oh they would have and that's the two they would have gotten? You killed them for going for two so much.
No no no. That's the two they would have gotten.
No no no. It was actually a compliment to the Chiefs.
You're so in your own head about like seeing shadows everywhere and being like oh this guy said something bad. I was actually saying while we were watching the game, because we watched the games live and we live streamed.
Yeah. I was saying that, and they might not have gotten it because they couldn't get two yards all day.
I was saying that if the Bills, during that drive, I was like, if they score here, they should go for two? They should. Because there's no way that you're beating Mahomes if you keep it a one-score game with 10 minutes left.
I was like, the only way that the Bills can win this game

is to make sure that it's a two score game late in the fourth because otherwise Mahomes is going to win. So that was kind of my whole thing going into the game during the game.
I was like, you got to step on their throat. If you leave it a doubt, Mahomes will win.
That's 100% right. The only other way to win the game, and you really have to like thread this needle, but if somehow you can get the ball back down less than a touchdown with call it to pick a random number three minutes and 33 seconds left all timeouts and actually have your superstar quarterback come through yeah that's the other way you could win the game and they've now had two bites at that apple and back-to-back years and they haven't been able to do it listen I I I think he'll I think he will win a Super Bowl eventually but we're we're the somebody is going to be left without a chair it just in making the Super Bowl in the AFC and certainly the the problem is that I would worry about for Josh is if because I think he'll beat the Chiefs in the playoffs one time.
He's too good and the games are too close. Is it going to be hard psychologically to then like recalibrate and be like, that wasn't the Super Bowl? Yeah.
The bigger, like that's why the NFC is just, that's why PFT is in such a great spot is it's like maybe you make the Super Bowl in the one in four years the Chiefs aren't there and if you do, it is you are at the top of the mountain winning one game. All the AFC teams it's like we have to beat the end boss and then have another game to play which is brutal.
Jalen Hurts has already been to more Super Bowls than Aaron Rodgers. That's what the NFC is right now.
All right, so I got a question for you, and this is – I want your honest opinion. Great.
This is a complete hypothetical, but if Josh Allen were on the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes were on the Bills, how many Super Bowls would Josh Allen have gotten to? Because I do – I obviously think Mahomes has proven it more in the clutch. I'm not saying Josh Allen's better than Mahomes.
I always say Mahomes is the best quarterback. But I do think at this point there's a lot of coaching and defense that I think Josh would have been at least to three Super Bowls probably because he's played that great.
I think that's, Colin, our friend, uh, Colin Cowherd said yesterday to me that that exact scenario, he's like, Josh would have more rings. That's too much.
I wouldn't think that. Yeah.
Right. What I would remind the audience of is what Josh has never had to deal with in Buffalo.
And it's a testament to McDermott is what Mahomes had to deal with his first three years in Kansas City, particularly the first two, horrific defense. So that is something we haven't seen Josh half to overcome.
I'm not saying he couldn't. But right now, it is five appearances, three rings to 0-0.
If it were flipped, I think Josh would have been to 2 and 1-1, and I think Mahomes would have been to 4 and 1-2. So that's what I think would have been the scenario.
That sounds like an advanced stats. Which Bills teams would Patrick Mahomes have taken to the Super Bowl? Give us the hypothetical matchups.
Okay, so I think there is no question that in 2022, that Bills team with Mahomes instead of Josh, the team that got rolled by Joe Burrow at home, which was weird, that team was awesome. I think 2021, it probably would have gone Josh the way it went, but Josh is way in Kansas City last year with Tyreek.
But I think the early Josh Allen-Bills teams, 2018 is a year to think about both of their first years as a starter. That defense was good.
They had just gone to the playoffs the year before with Tyrod Taylor. You drop Mahomes on there, it's to me a similar situation is when you dropped him on Kansas City yeah and so like those are those are ones that come to mind right now this year for sure like so but whatever and now and now and and I don't think you'd say the same for Lamar because I do think Lamar has had uh teams that have been really really good on both sides of the ball and he's had really good coaching and he's he's fallen I see Josh and Lamar has had teams that have been really, really good on both sides of the ball.
And he's had really good coaching. And he's fallen.
I see Josh and Lamar is different. Of course.
Listen, everybody gets so mad at me. Lamar is Aaron Judge.
And there's nothing wrong with it, but he's Aaron Judge. And everyone thinks like the – I used to say James Harden, but people have such a dislike of Harden's athletic character.
that it and everyone loves Lamar the person and how let's so take that out of it there the Peyton Manning is the obvious comp but if we want to switch to right now this moment it's Aaron Judge which is like on a day-in day-out basis in the regular season you're like is this the best player in the sport or certainly in the top two or three? And then come the playoffs, it's like, man, every time, again, we don't have to relitigate this, but every regular season, it's Lamar's the best player in the league. And every playoffs, it's like, you know why they lost? They put the ball in Lamar's hands too much and that's a

little you know that's that's a little frustrating what do you think about those uh you know the listeners out there that might hear that and say there's a better comparison for James Harden in today's NFL who's that Patrick Mahomes oh the flop yeah good point what would you say them I'm not saying that good point but there are people listening right now that are like I can't believe if he said James Harden and then Lamar.

Yeah.

Taking advantage of the rules.

Yeah.

James Harden and then Lamar. Yeah.
Taking advantage of the rules. Yeah.
James Harden, very smart player. I like that you're probably pulling up some stats right now.
No, I'm not. I was actually cleaning something.
I'm not, but the keyboard's here. I was cleaning something there.
Sorry. I had to kind of determine, because when Big Cat texted me and to come on first i snap said yes and then i was like hey promote the podcast which he took so seriously didn't know the name of well because i don't i don't the right stuff want to uh you know so obviously i'd love for some of your listeners to you know sample stuff.
So I was debating whether or not I want to alienate them. But, you know, my North Star is the truth.
So what I would say to anyone who actually believes there is any type of comp between James Harden and Patrick Mahomes is you're the dumbest fucking sports fan I ever heard. And so, like, my pod's probably not for you because it'll it'll confuse you and so uh it just wouldn't be fun um and so that's that's what i would say to them okay i do we do say especially after the bangles game this year the chiefs bangles game where people were talking about the passenger the alleged passenger interference at the.
People do have Chiefs derangements in there.

They do.

And anytime something bad happens.

That's why I give you guys credit.

You guys have said this all year.

Yeah, I call it, it's like Chiefs-a-gate.

Whenever anything bad happens, they start to connect all the dots

and be like, oh, this ref lived in Missouri for two months

when he was 23 years old.

And they start to tie all this stuff together.

The fact of the matter is the Chiefs have been just the better team

and the better coach team with maybe the best quarterback. Actually, that's a good question for you.
What does Patrick Mahomes have to do to surpass Tom Brady to be in your eyes the greatest quarterback of all time? So I already think he's the best player ever, but he's not the greatest quarterback of all time. I know that's more my style of argumentation than your guys' I get that.
But I think he's the best player we've ever seen. I do think resumes and accomplishments have to weigh a ton and so Brady gets to be called the GOAT.
I think that if they pull off the three-peat and someone wants to say he's now the greatest of all time it's at least an allowed opinion right now it's not an allowed opinion but that to me is a big enough accomplishment it would be uh for me to say it as passionately and clearly and articulately and really brilliantly as I've said the LeBron's the greatest player of all time I think they if he does the three-peat, one more Super Bowl, and it's a wrap, plus an MVP, one more great regular season, plus another Super Bowl, and it'd be him. If they don't do the three-peat, he probably has to get to six.
Probably, or I think he probably has to get to six. This is big.
This three-pe. This is huge.
Yeah. No, this is, it is, after the, you know, you walked into Bucs Chiefs, and listen, that game, it actually kind of gives me solace because it was such a blowout.
Because if that was a close game, and I was sitting here thinking like, man, it would be 6-4 right now with Mahomes having the head-to-head victory with a chance for it. Like if they had won that game, it would be maybe already the opinion.
And if not, certainly one game away, but they got rolled. So such is life.
Yeah. And now the three people.
All right. So you're obviously going around.
I feel like you're the number number one Chiefs fan right now what's your favorite stat that you just show up to people and you're like hey did you know this because I would imagine you have a lot of them when it comes to Mahomes or Reed or even Kelsey uh where you just yeah so I gotta you want like a fire hose of them yeah there's so many to it to us. Thanks to that Bills game, Patrick Mahomes now has trailed in 53 fourth quarters in his career,

which sounds like a lot, but that's every single loss.

Like, it's not going into the fourth.

It's at any point.

He has a winning record in those games.

In games, he's trailed in the fourth quarter.

He's 27 and 26.

Nobody else has won more than 37% of their games. the playoffs.
You mentioned this, Josh DeBose stat. He's trailed in the fourth quarter, nine times.
They've won six of those. He's six and three.
And so he's played 20 career playoff games, 11 easy wins, nine times trailing in the fourth, six victories, one overtime loss where he never got the ball but the you know the nfl didn't change the rules because of it because we're not the bills um another overtime loss against the bangles where he didn't come through and then down 31 to nine entering the fourth against the bucks blowout uh mahomes the what was the there was was another, oh, you said it.

He scored on 13 of 14 of those drives.

Mahomes already has won more playoff games, four,

when his defense allows more than 28 points than any player in league history.

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning combined won four playoff games in their entire careers when their defense allowed more than 28 points. That's pretty cool.
Maybe he shouldn't score so quickly. Yeah.
Maybe he shouldn't give the ball back to his opponent. Maybe he shouldn't just throw these, you know, 70 yard touchdowns to Tyreek Hill.
Well, luckily he doesn't anymore. I mean, the, the, so the, I think that there, you know, Mahomes, the one time he didn't come through was the second half against the Bengals.
That game ended, or his last time touching the ball, was a perfectly thrown pass on third and long to Tyreek Hill, but it was in double coverage. It was a risky ball, but it was perfectly thrown, went off Tyree's hands.
And then it was picked and they lost since then in the playoffs, Mahone, Mahomes has one turnover worthy pass. Since he lost a playoff game, throwing a risky pass, he has made zero.
Well, I shouldn't say zero because he threw the pick in in the Super Bowl and he fumbled here. But those are the only two turnovers,

and he's only thrown one ball really in jeopardy.

And so I think he is such a different caliber of clutch athlete that it is, we are like, the he is his ability to diagnose exactly the style of game, of play it would take to win a particular game and be able to play that exact style is unlike any quarterback I've ever seen other than late-stage Tom Brady. And where Brady deserves all the credit in the world is he was at his you know kind of physical best late in his career and then also had all the institutional knowledge which is why he was so dominant you know into his 40s yeah I mean it's it's it is crazy to watch it's he thinks the game better than anyone you can see it when you're watching it and it's really just I say it over the over and over going back to the Chiefs' arrangement and everyone talking about the flags and everything.
The reason why the flags always feel more consequential is the Chiefs, if you give them an inch, they will take a mile. That is what a championship team does.
If you make a mistake with them, they will capitalize, and that's what they do, and that's why it feels more significant sometimes, and that's the special of mahomes and andy reed and chris jones okay quick break from nick right does everybody know what season it is it is soup season it is it's hockey and soup season but it's also tax season and hank you know about tax season how you feeling about it this year i feel great about tax season this year uh we've a lot, getting older, getting more mature. And one thing that's helped me a lot and made me feel a lot older and more mature is getting ahead of my taxes, not waiting until the last minute and doing them, rushing through, being stressed out.
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Just go to taxact.com, check it out for yourself. Get ahead, stay ahead stay ahead before before you go pft can i give you one more stat that is not a patrick mahomes stat but it is george carloftis has more playoff sacks than lawrence taylor aaron donald jj watt derrick thomas and that's a patrick mahomes stat right it's's because George Karloftis has just spent his entire career in the playoffs.
So now he's already in the top 30 all time in postseason sacks. Yeah, no, I'm glad you brought that up.
That's a very impressive stat. You can go all day with these Mahomes stats because he's been so great for so long that he really, you can point to a lot of things and say this guy's the best but you will always be the second biggest Patrick Mahomes fan in the world because Dylan Rayola exists have you thought about maybe cutting the hair wearing the turtleneck thing like modeling your entire life after Mahomes so here's the thing the Rayola thing because he he has a relationship with Patrick and like, so Patrick's fine with it.
So it doesn't, you know, I think a lot of people were more bothered by it or found it more cringeworthy maybe than Patrick did. But what I would say is this got to play better kid.
Like when it was like, this guy might win the Heisman. I was like, this is sick.
But when is sick but when it was when he went in that slump i'm like no that's not cool like you can't the i mean i feel like if pft commenter if your career had really gone askew and you were like on info wars or whatever then i feel like maybe florio would have been like change the branding buddy what do you mean because you became you it ended up being great for everybody yeah yeah no that would be awesome though if i if i was doing info scores for alex jones then that should be called what's right that would be the name of my show yeah your podcast should actually be what's wrong and then you just admit all the stuff that you were wrong about. Yeah.
So I, the, the only long form, like profile ever written of me was the, the in Kansas city, there were a couple alt weeklies, like what the village voice was for New York or whatever called pitch and ink. And one of them wrote, This guy spent a week with me when I was 26 and spent a week with me.
My family went out with us, all of us. And I thought it was going to be this glowing piece about how, you know, this kid from Kansas City who was on the second rate radio station in town was trying to take down the Heritage Station, and in a quest to one day become America's biggest sports talk host.
That was how I thought the article was going to be written. Instead, the cover of this paper is me with my pointy fingers, shaved head, my nose at the worst angle imaginable, pointing at the microphone, and the headline blazed, what's wrong with Nick Wright? And it is 15,000 words about how this kid, whose radio show is in 17th place, is delusional.
And just saying, I'm going to beat this guy, then beat then beat that guy then get this job and the whole premise of the article is that there's a crazy person on the radio in Kansas City and it's called what's wrong with Nick Wright oh my god that's great bulletin board material that is I have it in my office I don't have it up here but I have it up where I watch football I have it framed in my my office. Oh, you got a football office.
I love that. Hey, I've got a good TV setup.
My like, that's a big fight with the wife is like how much real estate in the house. Oh, yeah.
Goes to 20 Sundays a year of just a wall of televisions. But you guys know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, no, I have way too many TVs in my house. All right.
So question just about how you how you do your day. Because, again, I think you are very, very talented.
I know you agitate people, but that also is what happens when you win. But do you ever send, like, when you're sucking off Patrick Mahomes so hard, do you ever send him, like, a clip and being like, look what I did today at work.
Like, did you love it? No, I've never. You're the, okay the okay first of all never maybe in that language but you're the second person that's asked me that question like do you ever send lebron or mahomes clips of you talking about and answer the question and i think that's such an absurd idea like the evidently itidently, it must be a thing people think might happen because you're the second person to ask me that.
But I just can't fathom me waxing poetic about Mahomes in the AFC Championship game. Then, you know, copy Link, text Patrick like, hey, did you see this today, buddy? No, I've never done that.
Now, as far as us copying or each other, I will say this. Before the football season, last year obviously, got the Never a Doubt tattoo.
And Patrick Mahomes, who rarely if ever tweets, 45 minutes after winning the Super Bowl, sent out his first tweet of the playoffs, a picture of him holding both trophies with only a three-word caption, never a doubt. So if you're asking me, do I think my show is regularly on in the facility? Well, why wouldn't it be if just a compliment fest.
I think that if there was a TV show that you had a reliable, good chance that if you turned it on, they were just going to be like, and here's reason 68, why PFT and Big Cat are the greatest that ever existed. You'd probably have it on in the background somewhat often.
It would be nice if occasionally Mahomes or LeBron would say just on their own hey Nick like if they if they defended you the same way that you defended yeah you know if somebody's dunking on you online and LeBron steps and he's like hey my man Nick makes some really great points here you got to say you did it again Nick Nick is now 98 and two going up against uh against Kyle in these debates in overtime. You know what? That's a good point.
Yeah. It should be more of a, you know, two way street.
And I've never really, you know, I've never thought of it that way, but I, I feel, listen, I'm just out here. The every, the like, Oh, Nick, you're a chief's apologist.
And first of all, it's nothing to fucking apologize for. They win every Super Bowl.
Second of all, I'm not an apologist for anything. I'm a truth teller.
Like people used to call me a Bills hater. And then this year when everyone idiotically was like, oh, I like what the Jets are building or it's the Dolphins.
I'm like, no, the Bills are going to be where the Bills always are, looking awesome, tricking the media into thinking this is the year

they beat the Chiefs and then losing in heartbreaking fashion,

probably in the conference championship.

Not a Bills hater.

Say it again.

Not a Bills hater.

That last sentence, not a Bills hater.

No, I'm a truth teller.

I'm a truth teller.

The most honest people always remind themselves.

As right as I've been about the Chiefs,

I have been more right about the Bills the last five years. I called them overrated when they were.
I called them underrated when they were. I've never missed on the Bills.
Ever. Okay, what about the Birds? What about the Eagles? It sounded earlier like you were looking down your nose on the Eagles.
Yeah, you've been talking junk about Howie. You did.
I saw your clip where you're like Howie Roseman basically goes on the message boards and drafts all the players from Georgia.

I basically got every Eagles take wrong.

Yeah, you were way wrong.

I said, hey, Howie, maybe draft kids other than Georgia kids and who the mock drafts want you to take.

Turns out, maybe that's just what everyone should do.

Just follow the mocks.

I said, and I quote, Saquon Barkley won't be a difference maker he then had maybe the greatest single season of running backs ever had yep and I I had the eagle I had the commanders finishing second in the NFC East which sounds great but it's not second to the Eagles it was second to the Cowboys with the Eagles coming in third. No, I whiffed as big as someone can whiff on the Eagles, and I just have to own that.
I thought that the collapse at the end of last season was not, they weren't going to be able to get over it. And I looked at, I looked at both the big running back acquisitions, Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley as man, those teams were awesome at running anyway.
Like, why is that where you're spending your resources? And I was just as wrong as you could be. Uh, and so now, now we get, listen, they get a, they, nobody looks at it this way, but they denied a three-peat already because the Patriots won 16-18 and were in the Super Bowl in 17 lost to Nick Foles it didn't feel like denying a three-peat because it wasn't at the end so they have a chance to do it again and if listen if Jalen Hurts in these next two weeks can learn to throw like Nick Foles they might be able to win oh all right, all right.
And so Max, our producer, is a diehard Eagles fan.

Max, you have anything to say to Nick Wright?

Obviously, he's on your shit list.

He has to be. Yeah, no, I was trying to think of why he was on my shit list this entire time.

I couldn't quite remember.

I mean, he said a lot of things about the Eagles this year.

Yeah, but the Howie Roseman part, I remember that clip where he's like, Howie Roseman just

takes anyone who's on the mock draft, then the media sucks him off. Yeah, they say he's a Twitter GM.
Yeah, that one was wrong. Well, I mean, he's made some pretty good moves.
Yeah, yeah. No, I got it wrong.
And shout out to Max. Personal growth is important.
You listen to my whole Eagles thing. You didn't have to take a mental health lap like you did with Big Cat a few weeks ago.
So that's all good. Like, I think it's all.
No, that's true. That's growth.
It is growth. And I see that fathead of Jalen Hurts behind you.
I assume that's moments before he scans the field, sees open receivers, and then decides to tuck and run. Oh, you could have gone even hurt.
Like, I think Jalen Hurts, I saw his status, like 25% of his throws this year have been throwaways. That's the big Jalen Hurts.
Just scanning the field and then throwing it, you know, 10 feet into the stands. What do we make? Can I ask a question? What do we make of the straight jacket comment? Why do the Eagles, when everything is going well, decide to meet with the media and just be like, let's create?

Nobody was – six weeks ago, the only story around the Eagles was

Vic Fangio transformed the defense.

Saquon's going to break Eric Dickerson's record.

And then A.J. Brown's like, passing sucks.

We got to get better at it.

And everyone freaks out.

And then everything seemingly is fine.

And they're winning a playoff game. And A.J.
Brown Brown's like now's the time for me to break out this book and I've got to listen to Eagles fans be like he does it all the time I'm like well it's literally never been caught on video on the sideline ever and the Eagles are a lot of their games are on TV and then this week Jalen Hurts is like finally took the straight jacket off me, which again, not to be too psychological, handcuffs are used to prevent you from harming others. Straight jacket is if they're worried you're going to harm yourself.
So the deep-seated psychology of it is my coach thinks that I'm going to hurt us, hurt our team. So he tries to prevent it.
And so, listen, don't worry. I'm sure that despite all that, Nick Sirianni is going to outfox Andy Reid in these 10 days and get it all taken care of.
Not worried about that at all. Well, there was a picture of A.J.
Brown reading Inter Excellence. Yes, there was a picture.
When he had 98 yards and 15 targets. It was not a video from the game.
Well, I stopped listening when he said there was no photographic evidence of him reading the book. I said video.
Check the tape, my friend. That's tomato, tomato.
Nick just basically was like, your quarterback is worried about hurting himself, and he needs a straight jacket. And you're like, yeah, but the A.J.
Brown point, you're wrong. Well, I mean just that was the first thing that came to my mind I mean how am I I'm not I'm not gonna win this fight I don't know I don't know how to battle here I don't I don't fight with any logic yeah so go ahead fight him with no logic tell him that he's an idiot tell him that Philly's the best Jalen Hurts coming off his best game of the year and then the last time he had his best game ever was against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, so there's no reason to believe that he can't do it again.
What happened in that game? Listen, the best game Jalen Hurts has ever played. Yeah.
Sorry, I didn't. The best game Jalen Hurts has ever played is that Super Bowl game, and I would argue it is the single best game any player has ever played that also included them making the play that lost their team in the game.
I think it is the – I think of all the games where one guy made a totally unforced catastrophic error that cost his team a championship, he played the best in that game. It's got to be so awesome to be, Nick, because that was another Mahomes stat that Max just gave you.
He's like, he played the best game he's ever played in his life you're like yeah he was that's the best quarterback performance i've ever seen ever and the chiefs beat him that was it was a good performance he shouldn't have fumbled it was a second quarter fumble yeah no that that i actually i'm being unfair and i the that i actually think that fumble was probably a little overrated it was third and six anyway if you just get stuffed they're gonna punt obviously the chiefs are in scores of their chiefs um and you you know max like the reason or nick the reason why i have max around is like it's it's like softball practice for us and you can see that in like two seconds you're like oh this is you guys are just keeping around so you can just do a little slow pitch. So, again, I feel, I wish you guys had me on at some point if the Steelers somehow ever played in a game that mattered because I'd much rather argue with that idiot Steeler fan who a couple years ago sent a really, really, what's the word, off- color i'll say tweet oh either about me and my wife or about me and someone but it was it was me it was the the what's the stupid tom green college movie um freddie got fingered yeah no not that one the the good one the road trip or uh Yeah.
Yeah. The one The one.
Was it road trip? Yeah, it was road trip. Yeah, road trip.
Road trip. You know, the skinny, nerdy white guy that is in bed.
He's for some reason sent that picture out and said, live look at getting it right. And I'm like, I don't know if that's about me or about my wife, whatever it is, but I really actively dislike that person.
I don't know his name. I know he's an idiot.
And I know you guys torture him and make him try to hit hole-in-ones and stupid bullshit. No, that's his own doing.
Jerry goes a little too hard, and we've to – we've put some guardrails in since. There's been times where I've had to clear tweets, and he – listen, we've worked on that.
We've looked in the mirror. If it helps at all, Jerry was addicted to crack for a lot of years.
Really? Yeah, he was. Yeah, he's actually a great story.
He helps a lot of people. But yeah, that one I'll say Jerry went too far.
So the point I'm making is I have nothing against Max, and I actually think he's – oh, here it is. So I got it wrong.
I got the story wrong. I'm going to text you what he did.
Okay. Here it is.
I just found it. Listen, whatever you text me is not even in the top 10 worst tweets that Jerry sent.
Oh, I'm sure. But regardless, it pissed me off because I never came for this idiot.
Yeah, no, that's fair. That's totally fair.
And so I sent out a picture of me and my wife out celebrating something, and he reposted it with the Malibu Most Wanted thing or whatever that was I don't know what it was but it made me mad he just so Max this isn't for you you probably said one mean thing not even mean thing you probably just said one thing that he viewed as negative about TJ Watt and then he went nuclear that's all it takes for him literally that's all it takes you might have said Miles Garrett is a better player than T.J. Watt.
Yeah, that's probably what it was.

You probably gave Miles Garrett the defensive player of the year

and he went absolutely nuclear because

that's how he's wired. How's he going to deal when

they trade T.J. Watt for a first and

a third? We've

done a little trial balloon

with that with him and it

has not gone well.

I'll apologize for Jerry.

Jerry's a very sweet guy. He does go too hard on Twitter.
If you guys ever met, I think you'd get along. But he does that.
He'll be the first to admit. He had to put that, you know they have a timer on Twitter where it's like a minute timer to make sure you want to tweet it? He had to put that on his Twitter because he had so many incidents.
Okay, you know what? And I didn't know the trials and tribulations.

Let's have something good come of this.

Hands washed of it.

All good.

Love that.

And it's not excusing.

I trust you guys.

If you say he's a good guy, I trust it.

We all kind of get angry on Twitter sometimes.

Yeah, he's got a good heart.

And the crack stuff doesn't excuse tweeting mean things to people. I'm just saying Jerry does do a lot of good things for people now in recovery and all that stuff.
This has been awesome, Nick. We should have you on more often.
You're so much fun to talk to. So give us a final score for the Super Bowl.
I showed you I have a future to win $100,000 on the Eagles. You told me to cash out.
Well, yeah, I said I never, ever, ever cash out bets. In fact, quick, very quick anecdote, and then I'll let you go, and I'll try to give you a final score.
So Kevin Wilds, who is just the best person in the world to work with, he's not a gambler at all, but he bets like $1 or $2, and his first game of the first day of the NFL season, he let his sons pick all of the Sunday slate straight winners, a dollar and hit it. But he's also a big cash out guy.
Like the moment it shows a 10% profit, he'll click cash out. So he and I have a deal now where i told him anytime you want to cash out screenshot text me i'll auto pay it but if it wins i get it like because i want to be the house in that because cashing out is never the right option never unless of course you have a hundred grand that is predicated on the chiefs losing a football game in which case you should definitely cash out yeah and i i told you i bet the chiefs last year in the super bowl and it was one of the most fun experiences because i just sat there being like like half the gambling cave had brock purdy and i was just like oh i got that's dumb yeah like i got my homes here this is gonna be then it's been a year thinking about how kyle shanhan messed up the new overtime rules.
Yeah. And that's the reason why I lost all my money.
Yeah. All right.
So here's the thing. The producers of the TV show, because we're going to be down in New Orleans, and we're trying to build stuff or whatever, asked me yesterday.
They're like, hey, need a final score for the game because we're going to build something for a reveal. I was like, well, I don't have that yet.
And he's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, you think I'm just going to willy-nilly come up? I got to deep dive. I got to review the all 22.
Now, listen, I think I'm going to pick the Chiefs. I'm not even sure yet.
I got to really review the information. But I'm leaning towards 34-24.
Okay. Leaning.
Okay. That would be over.
But that's, you know, write that in pencil. No.
Not in pen. I'm going to bet this.
You should do like Lee Corso does in college game day and put the mascot head on, and it's the paintball mask and the cap the Chiefsaholic wore. That would be fun.
Did you watch that documentary? Believe it or not, I have not. I have not watched the Chiefsaholic.
You are featured in it. I'm featured in it? Well, yeah.
They take pretty much every podcast clip in America that's been talking about the Chief i think i think we were on it for about a second when we told our old friend billy to go try to track down chiefsaholic yeah yeah so we were in it as well all right so everyone do watch uh first things first also do subscribe to what's right i love you guys and and in all seriousness not only congrats uh i one moment of genuineness. I appreciate the direction you guys have gradually pushed some others in sports media of everything that it is supposed to be fun.
And it doesn't always have to be so life or death. And so I think you guys are great, and I appreciate you having me on.
And I'll come on whenever. I'll talk to you guys later.
Yeah. No, this has been a lot of fun, and good luck to your Chiefs.
I'm not going to cash out. You know I'm not going to cash out.
I can't cash out. No, of course.
No, you can't. No, you would.
And it wouldn't be fun watching the game. Right.
The only real way to make the cash out, and this is the only thing I'll say, for the cash out to be an option. You would have to cash out and snap put the full amount on the Chiefs.
It has to be a 100K winner one way or another. And so if you were like that, but you can't just cash out and take it and not have big action on the Super Bowl, obviously.
Right.

And it's not like last time the Chiefs played the Eagles.

I actually had a chance to win 200K, and the Eagles were up 10 at halftime.

Yeah.

So I'll be fine.

It's going to be fine.

You'll be fine.

It's going to be fine.

34-24.

Hey, congrats, by the way.

We'll say it right now.

We've done this every single year for, I think, six or seven years in a row.

Congrats on the Kansas City Chiefs winning the AFC West in 2025. We're the first to report it.
We are the first to report it. We've been reporting it around this time every single year.
Congratulations on another AFC West title. This is their year.
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Breaking moves. Justin Tucker might be in some shit.
Yeah, that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. He was allegedly on his Deshaun grind.
Yeah. The dates are interesting because it says that the experiences he was having at the Baltimore area massage parlors stopped in about, what, 2019? Oh, is that it? I wasn't able to read the whole thing.
That's like right when the Deshaun stuff came out. Maybe it was like the block's too hot.
But it's six different masseuses who are accusing him of being inappropriate nutting on the table exposing himself etc etc uh and his his statement that he put out which he denies everything okay he says that it's a newspaper with an axe to grind okay and uh when he first learned of this article he was trying to get more information they only gave him like like five minutes to respond before they published. So he's denying everything, but there's no charges being pressed, either civil or criminal.
So right now it's an article. Okay.
So we don't know. Okay.
But if true... Why would they accuse him with no charges? Because the newspaper can write an article and be like, we've talked to these women.

Here's what they say happened.

Even though there's no, there's nothing in court.

They can still tell that story if they believe it's true.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So, no.

I don't know.

If true, pervert.

Bad.

For a kicker.

Even a pervert.

A kicker.

The jizz puddle. Yeah.
hank your fire fest i don't really have i'm i'm good week good week uh case race was was fun obviously the anxiety of of getting blackout drunk with your co-workers and then waking up the next day and realizing that it was all taped and that you don't remember a lot of it is is not a fun anxiety i would say uh but other than that pretty pretty good week yeah we had a we had a pause thing on wednesday morning very bad planning but shout out pause chicago we dropped off the check for still blue coffee we did some volunteering hank was scheduled to do it in before the case race started i told him uh, I was like, dude, you don't have to come. It's not a big deal.
We have more than enough people. And when I got home from the case race, hammered, Hank texted me at midnight and was like, dude, I can't get my face makeup off.
I'm going to have to cancel for tomorrow. There was a lot.
I was just like, I already said it's okay. He was just in his field.

It would have scared the dogs.

Yeah.

It would have scared the dogs.

But yeah,

watch the Yak case race for,

if you're a Max fan

or a Max hater,

please don't watch.

Watch the case race.

Please don't watch.

Noon Central,

Yak YouTube.

I did exactly what I thought

I was going to do.

No, you didn't.

And it's so bad.

Max was on word count.

Oh, man. I should have.
I knew. Birds, baby.
Yeah. Birds.
Bird up. I think people will enjoy the Max experience because I know that I had tears in my eyes multiple times.
I'm officially retired from, yeah, case races. That's what I say.
Unfortunately, that's not something you can retire from. When your number's called, you show up up and the next one is going to be in the summer Royal Rumble and so yeah you'll be there if you want to see Max getting physical tune into the case race yeah listen I've said this before but the case race is essentially childbirth just as painful we do it everyone regrets it and they're like that was miserable

terrible hangover don't want to watch myself drunk and then six months go by and you're like oh you don't be fun a case race yeah i kind of i was looking at my my wall pictures and thinking about what if we had another one on the wall yeah and i don't want to i don't want to get there but i want want to have it done. Yeah.
So come June, July, Royal Rumble time, we'll all be ready to go. We'll all be ready to go.
Okay, PFT. So my Fyre Fest was all my clothes got stolen, which I talked about on Wednesday's show.
But in addition to that Fyre Fest, I am basically out of clothes now, but I did have clothes arriving at my house that I'd ordered ahead of time that happened to show up after my stuff was stolen. It also just so happens that it's all Washington Commanders stuff that I tried to buy before the NFC Championship game, and they showed up the day after the NFC Championship game.
So now I'm just wearing a Mike Sandristill jersey today because it was the only clean shirt that I had. I've got a sweet new Commander's jacket that I'm wearing too.
So you're going to be at Super Bowl week at NOLA, you're going to be like the random Kansas or Duke fan when they're not in the Final Four? Yeah. But they had already booked their tickets? Well, for me, a Commander's fan, Pickett doesn't get this, Hank, like me and you do.
But our season doesn't start until the championship game.

And so, yeah, I kind of penciled myself into the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

What are you going to say?

I have something else for you.

Uh-oh.

I got sent a box of Commanders merch on Monday.

I didn't have the heart to give it to you.

So now I have new clothes.

Yeah, you have more clothes.

Is it a championship? It says, like, anybody, anywhere, anytime.

Yeah, that was our team motto. Correct.
Still is. Still is.
Well, the Eagles at 2 p.m. in Philly.
We played you. We showed up.
That is correct. We will play anybody.
That is correct. The motto is not we will beat anybody anytime, anywhere.
True, true, true. We will play anybody, anytime, play anybody anytime actually that's my motto too

when it comes to nfl football if any nfl football teams want to schedule me i'll play them yeah

bring it yeah it's the mt is a podcast we will play any nfl football team as long as it's a

scheduled nfl game on a sunday in the fall i got some tape coming out yeah that's i got some tape

coming it's just it's a motto for our podcast just in terms of watching football yeah anybody

anytime anywhere we're an nfl team i will watch you play football we will watch uh okay my fire

Thank you. a motto for our podcast just in terms of watching football yeah anybody anytime anywhere we're an nfl team i will watch you play football we will watch uh okay my fire fest i mean we've already talked about uh pft9 turning 40 that sucks uh i did get some presents this morning but my kids demanded to open it themselves uh that was also oh i guess it's a reverse fire fest my daughter did wish me happy birthday this year i remember last year she abstained she just yeah she knew it was my birthday she just was like I'm not gonna do it I kind of respected the hell out of that she was actually number one today she came into my room and said happy birthday it's very cool yeah I don't want to make this about myself but you guys turning 40 is affecting me pretty pretty hard more than I thought yeah in what way it feel really old.
That we're old. Yeah.
Yeah, we feel old when you get old. Like being with you guys when we turn 30.
No, but that's the same for us. When you turn 30, me and Big Cat were like, fuck.
I know. I know, it's crazy.
We're old. Yeah.
What can we do to stop getting old? Yeah. I mean, it's crazy.
I mean, it's crazy. Gaz tweeting the video of me for my 30th birthday being like, what a decade it's like shit i know it was a decade yeah yeah what do you want us to do hank we just got to be not old we're i'm sorry that our birthdays are making you feel bad i know i appreciate that apology accepted okay it's a good thing we're getting a 12 year old intern yep yep nine keep going down i want an intern that they can't walk yeah getting a newborn thing we're getting a 12-year-old intern.
Yep. Yep.
Nine. Keep going down.
I want an intern that can't walk. We're getting a newborn.
Yeah. We're going to raise a newborn.
It's our podcast baby. It's like a frat house dog.
That was Memes' idea. Memes was like, why don't we just adopt a child? He's done a great job with Mr.
Pear. Yeah.
True. Mr.
Pear is probably our longest living pet. Do you think Mr.
Pear is depressed? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
No. Mr.
Pierce has been in hibernation. I bought a tortoise that hibernates.
Okay, so. Probably bad idea.
During football season. So your tortoise is not depressed, but it's sleeping all day.
It's lost interest in everything. Yes.
I have a plan for next football season, though. To stimulate it? Uh-oh.
How are you going to stimulate it? I have a plan. Okay.
I can't tell you the plan, but there is. Why? Because Mr.
Pear might hear? Who are we keeping the plan from, Memes? It's a plan. You guys can't know the plan.
Okay. Okay.
What is going on? I don't know. He's been Googling some weird shit.
Memes has been on a weird. He gets weird vibes of the week award.
I don't know what he's planning, what he's doing. He's just excited for New Orleans.
Yeah, Super Bowl week. It's going to be all about the Eagles, all about Max.
He's just never in a good mood. I don't want to poo-poo him, though, because I'd rather him be in a good mood.
True. But it is.
It's off-putting. Yeah.
It's just not normal. He just loves New Orleans.
He's been talking about, like, New Orleans is his favorite city in the world. Yep.
And since he found out that this Super Bowl was in New Orleans, he's been talking about this week for the past six months. Three years ago? Yeah.
I've had a mark on the calendar. I was like, don't let the pit get you before New Orleans.
He actually did say that. He's like, as long as I make it to New Orleans.
Where's the Super Bowl next year? San Francisco. Oh, Aaron Rodgers homecoming next year for the Super Bowl memes? Should we just put Max in the cover art for the whole week? Absolutely not.
Absolutely not. We don't need to be on it.
No. No.
Let me and Big Cat produce. People are already sick of me.

Pardon, Max, take.

We did see there's at least one media outlet that wants to interview you, Max.

Yeah.

Yeah, we're going to get you on Radio Row, buddy.

We're going to parade you around like a show pony.

We're going to get you tassels.

Look how strong my boy is. I have nothing to say.

Oh, man.

Nothing noteworthy to say.

That's not true.

Okay.

Numbers.

Next stop, New Orleans.

40.

3.

11.

Fuck.

95.

Gotcha there, buddy.

I think this is Memes Day.

What do you mean, Memes Day?

Did somebody take 40?

I did. Has he gotten it? No, I think today's today.
Oh, okay is Memes Day. What do you mean Memes Day? Did somebody take 40? I did.

Has he gotten it? No, I think today's today.

Oh, okay. Call my shot.

We gotta move this thing back.

Memes, what's the number? I'm thinking.

You picked 8?

No. Let's go eight.
42.

Ooh.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Thank you.