Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old

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Speaker 1 See mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Jerry O'Connell in studio.
He's on the hot seat. We're going to find out if he can be our fantasy GM or manager.
No, coach.

Speaker 1 He's our coach.

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Speaker 10 at the top of the food chain for right now.

Speaker 1 For right now, great time with Jerry in studio. We're going to talk a little introductory press conference around the NFL.
Maybe a little early thoughts on the Super Bowl, where Max's head is at.

Speaker 1 We have Hot Seat, Cool Throne. And then we're going to do Guys on Chicks, questions about getting old, because this is the last show you'll listen to us as 39-year-olds.

Speaker 1 And that's scary. But, you know what's not scary?

Speaker 1 The big game, the Super Bowl. It's coming up.
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Speaker 1 Okay, let's go. I love guys who like football.
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Speaker 1 And even guys that don't like football,

Speaker 1 they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, January 29th, and boys, the dust has settled from the championship Sunday.

Speaker 1 We got a Super Bowl to look forward to. How's everyone feeling? Sean McDermott still has his job.
I don't think he should be fired now that the dust has been settled.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think he should be fired. But that has been the discord.

Speaker 10 He's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those losses just stay with the man. Yeah.
Andy Reid, you know what happened to him?

Speaker 10 He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles. You fired.
You fired him. Then he went to Kansas City, and now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How are you feeling, PFT? I know, obviously, Sunday sucked for you.
I think Monday probably sucked as well.

Speaker 10 When I woke up on Monday, I felt better just from the second I opened my eyes, and I posted a meme about it, and I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's the two guys on the bus meme.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 10 One is really pissed off, doom and gloom. The other guy's super happy.
The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked.

Speaker 10 So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think, think, than being like, oh, you know, we were one play away.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I said it to you right after the game.
I was like, the only, you know, I was, I felt bad for you. Like, it sucked to watch that.
And I was like, the only spin zone is if it were

Speaker 1 a Bills situation or, you know, like a weird call or penalty or like a dropped ball, a Mark Andrews,

Speaker 1 those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks and weeks and weeks. This one, it's like, yeah, you got your ass kicked.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I'm still not happy about the result of the game but and i'm also not doing the thing where i i'm just constantly pointing at we'll be back look look at this team that's the worst team jaden's ever going to have you never know yeah weird things happen in the nfl all the time so i i've also realized and this is my fault for not realizing before the game that was the post lions week yeah and every team gets their ass kicked post lions so the eagles didn't really even beat us the lions we just had delayed onset getting beaten by the lions so the lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, it happened with the Vikings, too. The Vikings beat the Lions last game of the season, lose to the Rams.

Speaker 1 No, the Lions beat the Vikings.

Speaker 10 The Lions beat the Vikings, but they play and then they end up losing afterwards. Yeah.
So congratulations to the Lions for beating us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they actually won that game.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but, you know, it's not a good feeling. Next week would be so much more fun if my team was in it.
Yeah. I would say so.

Speaker 1 I'm doing okay. Max?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm on the Kansas City,

Speaker 2 but I'm back on being mad at the the media because now everyone's just saying, oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 now it's back.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it sounds like there's another addition to the list.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, oh, yeah, big time list. Oh, Colin Coward said that the Eagles might not get in the red zone because the Chiefs' defense is so good.

Speaker 2 That's mega list.

Speaker 1 By the way, I've done some, we'll do a full preview next week, but our good friend Roan, I told him because we were talking about

Speaker 1 how he was saying, like, you know, the Chiefs' defense is really, the Chiefs' defense is a little overrated. I'm going to say it right now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to dig into some numbers for you, but I'm going to say it.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Their rush defense has not been, like, incredible in the back half. Now, the problem is for the Chiefs, for you and the Chiefs, is their offense has gotten a lot better.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think their defense is a little worse than people.

Speaker 1 I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average.
And I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average.
So

Speaker 1 it's still Patrick Mahomes. If that makes sense.

Speaker 1 That's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into, but I think their defense is a little bit worse, but their offense is a little bit better.

Speaker 10 Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Cowherd on your list because that's what he wanted to have happen.

Speaker 10 He said that so guys like you would be like, Colin Coward, let's talk about him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you fell for it. Yeah, you fell.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 I don't care. Megalist.

Speaker 1 I did get tagged in a stat.

Speaker 1 That you got upset about before I even said it. You were like, oh, you're touching with your fucking stats.

Speaker 2 Your last big stat was a no quarterback.

Speaker 1 That's not a stat. That was a curse.
It was a potential curse. It was a 25-year curse.
That's not a stat, dude. That's a curse.
You don't believe in that. That's a big difference.

Speaker 10 Max, for the record, you do not believe in 25-plus-year curses.

Speaker 2 I don't know where this is. I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to start man.

Speaker 1 I'm learning.

Speaker 1 Ryan Hannibal did tweet, and I got tagged in this, Max. It's not my fault that the AWLs tagged me in this.
They said something to note ahead of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio has faced Patrick Mahomes eight times, six six with Denver, twice with Miami.

Speaker 1 His teams are 0-8, and Mahomes has thrown 10 TDs and two interceptions of those games. Now, those

Speaker 17 prime Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Well, also, those Denver and Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do.

Speaker 2 Denver was pretty good.

Speaker 1 I mean, they were the Eagles' defense is very good. But, yeah,

Speaker 1 is that a stat worth jumping down my throat?

Speaker 2 I'm not worried about trends.

Speaker 1 That's a trend.

Speaker 10 I got a trend, Bigat.

Speaker 10 No team that's won exactly 15 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 10 But Max doesn't care about trends. But it's an extra game.

Speaker 1 I also have a trend. He doesn't care about trends.
I also have a trend. Every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl on this podcast, the Eagles have lost.

Speaker 18 Not a trend. Incorrect.

Speaker 2 Incorrect. You beat them in the regular season last year.
Next. I said in the Super Bowl Bowl.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you said in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Correct. I missed that.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love that you're on edge.

Speaker 17 That was a little boy ass play game.

Speaker 1 The Eagles beat the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah.
Sirianni doing the tunnel thing, and then it all fell apart.

Speaker 2 No, no, it was Travis Kelsey, little boy ass play.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No, but yeah, but wasn't that the game when Siriani was in the tunnel after? Yeah.
Like, how do you like us now? And then they lost every game after. Yep.
Nick Siriani, good coach.

Speaker 10 Have we got any media requests for Max during the week of the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 Zero meteor requests. Oh, come on, please.
Come on, people.

Speaker 1 I'll also say that Max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on Radio Row as well.

Speaker 10 And get two guests for the price of one. Yeah.
That was not a wait joke. That was just two teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Big, I have a question for you because there's a take that is riling people up online. Okay.

Speaker 10 Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had two defenders from the Kansas City Chiefs in his face?

Speaker 1 Are you talking about Khalil Shakir? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 He was running the little merry-go-round play in the backfield. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't... Now, I didn't play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 It felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do. But I actually think Ben Solik is good at his job and I like his film analysis.

Speaker 1 He, holy shit, was that an overreaction for people who missed it? He basically broke down the play and was like, Josh Allen had Khalil Shakir open on the back side.

Speaker 1 But if you watch the play, it's like,

Speaker 19 he had a chief in his face.

Speaker 10 Not if you simply flip your hips.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to flip your hips and make the throw.

Speaker 4 He did make the throw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did make a good, he made an incredible throw.

Speaker 1 He made the play happen. Yeah, that's the real story.
Dalton Kincaid, I feel like, is getting left off a little bit too easy

Speaker 1 just because it's easier to be like, Josh Allen can't beat Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 10 Oh, he should have flipped his hips to the left. I personally would have thrown it even deeper for a touchdown.
Yeah. The touchdown was open on that play.

Speaker 1 But so Ben Solick did a film breakdown, and then it was almost like

Speaker 1 it was essentially the anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight, and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL, linemen, quarterbacks. And then

Speaker 1 Ryan Leaf showed up, and everyone was like, ah, dude, maybe this isn't cool anymore. He wrote,

Speaker 1 quote treating Ben Solik, he said, this right here is why in full transparency, you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass.
You work at ESPN.

Speaker 1 Call Alex, call Dan, call Timmy H. Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had.
I'm serious, though. Someone go rough this kid up, see if he throws the orbit.
I love it.

Speaker 1 And I was like, it was basically, because it was everyone. It was like, you know, like, and all these people I respect.

Speaker 1 And I I think Ben probably did minimize how easy or how difficult of a throw that was.

Speaker 1 But it's also like you're having a discussion about a game. Like, that's the whole point of Twitter.
You talk about the game, you break down the game, but it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 10 Fitzy was nice to him. Yeah, Fitzy was nice to him.
He's like, I love your passion, which is actually the meanest thing you can say. But it was a horrible take.
He said it like it was a passionate.

Speaker 10 He was like the proper Harvard man that he was. That's Fitzy's version of saying somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass.

Speaker 1 The correct take was the Bills didn't slide their protection correctly because Spaggs was doing one blitz all game and then he and then he flipped it on him.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think there were two things working against Ben Solak. And yeah, he is good at what he does.
But number one, he used the dots. His initial take used the overhead.
They use the dots.

Speaker 10 They use the overhead dots. And the overhead, I don't know who likes watching the dots.
It's all the like film nerd people.

Speaker 10 You don't like football if you like watching the dots. Yeah.
Or maybe you can, but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other.

Speaker 10 There's nothing cool that happens. You get a little animated football that glides across the field.
What's your favorite album of all time, Big Cat?

Speaker 1 Probably, uh, oof.

Speaker 1 Probably

Speaker 1 Third Eye Blind, self-titled.

Speaker 10 Okay, Third Eye Blind. If you hadn't heard it, I was under pressure.

Speaker 1 I was under pressure. I was going to maybe go Sublime, Sublime.
I was also maybe going to go...

Speaker 10 Good choices.

Speaker 1 The band self-titled. Fuck.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's say...

Speaker 10 Hey, that that was hard let's say let's say uh prince purple reign okay you've never heard it right yeah sublime sublime okay sublime sublime you've never heard the battle ballad of johnny butt you've never heard wrong way you've never heard caress me down

Speaker 10 i come up to you and i'm like big cat i think you're gonna love this album and then i hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read yeah that's what looking at the dots is yeah how sick was for football you can't appreciate how sick it actually is so use the dots that's strike one and then strike two

Speaker 10 his profile pick that he had was a bat signal for for football jocks yeah to point at him and say this is everything that's wrong with the film dorks that are sitting at home they're in their big comfy chairs and they've never had a guy in their face before yeah so i think every film nerd should have to on video let a guy just get right in their face yeah like have a guy come in their face yep like not you know like physically yeah physically like impose their will on him in his face and then show that you can break down film while a guy is in your face also just maybe grow a mustache that helps too that always helps helps.

Speaker 1 The funny thing is, Kurt Warner, ever heard of him,

Speaker 1 Super Bowl MVP, MVP of the league. He actually kind of agreed with Ben, not that

Speaker 1 Shakir was there, but more that it was, the discussion should not be like, oh, where should he have thrown it?

Speaker 1 It should have been, how did the Bills not get the right protection, have a plan for that type of blitz? And again, Hank's right. Josh Allen made the throw.

Speaker 1 Dalton Kincaid, I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands.

Speaker 10 What do you always say, Hank?

Speaker 4 If you can touch it, you can catch it.

Speaker 1 If you can touch it, you can catch it. I do feel bad for Bills fans because it's how we started the show.
You were able to bounce back, relatively speaking, because of the ass kicking.

Speaker 1 Bills fans are going to spend

Speaker 1 the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and everything. Yeah,

Speaker 10 I was lucky enough to get to go home on Sunday and not have to force myself to spend the next 48 hours drawing Photoshopped lines onto the screen to show where the ball is, where the first down line is, and then replying to every popular tweet using my Photoshopped lines and demonstrating that the NFL was wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 But you have to do that if you're a Bills fan.

Speaker 1 And again, it comes down to the Chiefs are so well coached and they make big plays. Because I was also watching, so it was that Spaggs blitz, which was an incredible blitz, perfectly timed.

Speaker 1 And this is what the Chiefs do. They just make big plays.
The other one, which I didn't notice, obviously in real time, but the Mahomes

Speaker 1 designed run run for the touchdown to go up seven,

Speaker 1 it was very cool because they basically ran.

Speaker 1 It looked exactly like a run going left, and all the bills crashed left. I think they pulled a guard, and then Mahomes just went right.
And it's like,

Speaker 1 I think it was Rousseau said they had not run that play all year. The Chiefs had not run that play all year.

Speaker 1 I think Mahomes had one designed run all year, and he's like, we watched all the film, that never showed up.

Speaker 12 That's coaching.

Speaker 1 That's Andy Reid being like, we're in a game against a team that we know it's going going to come down to one possession.

Speaker 1 We got to throw a few things at them that they've never seen before. And that's what they did.
And that's why the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl and Mahomes going for a 3-P.

Speaker 10 Spin zone for Bills fans.

Speaker 10 The last time I remember this much breakdown of one fourth down slash first down slash referees getting involved and the spot might be incorrect, it was the Michigan-Ohio State game

Speaker 10 right before Michigan went on its win streak against Ohio State.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right? Well, there's a little bit of bottoming out, but then, yeah.

Speaker 10 But then, yeah. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
But then they were back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Then they were back big time.

Speaker 10 We also might get a microchip now. Yeah, so the microchip,

Speaker 1 I love the chain gang.

Speaker 10 I love the sticks. I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines sometimes.
That's always fun, too. But I like the idea.

Speaker 10 I love it if there's a close play. They stop the clock real quick.
The chain gang comes out onto the field. There's that moment of anticipation.

Speaker 10 Then you either get the first down or you don't get the first down. It's like another play that's built in that you get to cheer for or be pissed off about.

Speaker 10 I like the chain gang, but I can see why the microchip crowd can be like, we can measure this better.

Speaker 1 But again, it comes down to,

Speaker 1 and whatever, throw that play,

Speaker 1 throw the refs out of that. It came down to, I saw the stat, that the Chiefs, I think that was the most stuffed runs on a QB keeper, on a QB sneak, like in a lot of years.
Three times they stuffed it.

Speaker 1 Why were you running that three times?

Speaker 1 Especially in a play that by design you don't know where the ball is you the ref can't tell where the ball is it's a 50 50 call for the ref and you're leaving that up to it in a on a play that you aren't able to get those yards that's where i was i said it on sunday night like go ahead and blame the refs if you want to that was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the chiefs that just didn't feel smart i think if you can't see the ball then you get the microchip involved.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just like talking about microchips.

Speaker 1 And I also like whenever someone's like,

Speaker 1 we're able to do this, but not this.

Speaker 10 It also can't get on the moon, but we can't do a microchip.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right. Those are my favorite arguments.

Speaker 10 So the microchip would exist in the middle of the ball, right? So how would you know? I thought.

Speaker 1 And this is maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it. I thought they would wrap it in a microchip.

Speaker 10 The ball would be made out of microchip? Kind of. And shiny on the outside.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be one of those like

Speaker 1 the tin foil, and then they heat it up and it envelopes it.

Speaker 10 If you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pig skin, he's going to try to eat it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So be on the lookout for that. But there should be a way, if you can't see the ball, maybe go to the microchip.
But I love the chain gang.

Speaker 10 It's one of the things about football that's just it's tradition and you shouldn't try to don't make the NFL into the NBA. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not that we all hate.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs made a couple more plays than the Bills made. Yeah.

Speaker 26 That's that's what it came down to.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Going back to the beginning of the show, if this exact scenario had happened to Washington and they were in Buffalo situation, would you be saying the same thing about

Speaker 1 it?

Speaker 10 I would be pulling a memes at the NFL front office right now. I would be in New York and ready for the

Speaker 1 writing letters to Congress.

Speaker 10 I would never turn 40 if that happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I would be writing letters to Congress and self-funding microchip data. Yeah.
I'd go broke trying to get microchip, but

Speaker 1 my only rule for getting the microchips and the balls would be we have to replay that game.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I would move to Taiwan and start my own semiconductor company.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 if that happened,

Speaker 1 if I were a Bills fan,

Speaker 1 I'd probably just walk around with a picture of

Speaker 1 the spot and the ball that was beneficial to me. And I would just be, it would be like showing a picture of your kids or your dog.
She'd be like, you want to see this?

Speaker 10 Did you see what happened?

Speaker 1 Remember that? Years later, I'd be like, did you guys see this?

Speaker 10 Remember that movie September Pride? I would kidnap Roger Goodell and I would tattoo that image onto his body so he had to look at it every single day.

Speaker 1 I'd clockwork orange him.

Speaker 1 I'd open up his eyeballs and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over. Severance, make him apologize into a screen a thousand times.

Speaker 10 To your future self, Roger. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah. Stop complaining, Bills fans.
Well, no, you get no. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 Keep complaining. Definitely keep complaining.
Keep complaining.

Speaker 10 Keep posting the screenshots.

Speaker 1 Don't give that up. I think it's it's more, I think Bills fans keep complaining.
I think

Speaker 1 non-like if you don't have a dog in the fight, Bills or Chiefs, fucking move on and stop saying the NFL is rigged. Yeah, again, you pointed out, if the NFL's rigged, just bet everything on the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 It's rigged. If it's rigged, if you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the Chiefs on every single year.

Speaker 10 I love the people that discover for the first time that the NFL has argued in court that they're an entertainment company, not a sports company.

Speaker 10 And then that proved that it's 100% rigged, which if you're looking looking for, if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff to work with.

Speaker 10 They give you a ton to work with. But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not one ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and was like, no, that looks like it's two inches short.

Speaker 1 Oh, we need Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl again.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of takes flying, but I did appreciate

Speaker 1 one person saying,

Speaker 1 I'm going to give you too bad, Big Cat. I kind of give you a pass because it's your job.
But at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt.

Speaker 1 It would be a big statement for all of Barstool Sports to take a stand here and boycott.

Speaker 10 Boycott the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Boycott. I'll say this loud and clear.

Speaker 1 I'm always going to watch the Super Bowl. It's the last football game of the year.
And anyone who says they're not going to watch the Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar.

Speaker 1 You're just a liar. You're going to watch the Super Bowl.
You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl.
You're going to fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 1 They literally named a Sunday after it, and you're going to open your eyes and you're going to watch that fucking game.

Speaker 10 You know what? I think we should make a stand. Who was that that said that?

Speaker 1 Tram 2022.

Speaker 10 Tram 2022 is right.

Speaker 10 As a company.

Speaker 1 Noted Paul Watcher.

Speaker 10 As a company, Tram, I think that we should all boycott the Pro Bowl games.

Speaker 1 Okay. We've done this, I think, four or five years in a row.

Speaker 1 I'm ready to do it.

Speaker 10 But I'm doing it this year for Tram. Yeah.
I'm not going to watch.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll stand with you.

Speaker 10 Are they going to do the one where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw? I won't watch that. I might watch that, but the rest of it, I'm out.

Speaker 1 I won't watch at least some part of the Pro Bowl games. Okay.
Yeah, that feels right.

Speaker 10 That feels right. We'll show them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We should talk about

Speaker 1 some coach introductions. So, Liam Cohn.

Speaker 1 Whoa, that guy's weird.

Speaker 10 I kind of like him. I mean,

Speaker 1 I like him in the fact that, like, I can't look away.

Speaker 10 When he did the Duval and he did the double eyebrow raise yeah um i talked to jerry o'connell about that we were hanging out in the gambling cave he's like so that uh that jaguars coach he's uh that was ai right yeah like seriously like ai he was like now that we're off the air can you tell like that was ai yeah no it's no that's that's him that's liam cohen and it's

Speaker 10 It's rare that you see one thing from an introductory press conference and you just know what it's going to be like after every single Jaguar's loss. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Where that is going to be the only thing that you see on social media.

Speaker 10 that's going to be the one thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cohen until I see him do something even weirder. Yeah,

Speaker 1 shots, explosives, Adam Gates' eyes. Like, there's a lot of things that if you do

Speaker 1 your first press conference, if you say it, or your first introduction to the world, Dave Canalis' book. Yeah.
There's just a lot of things.

Speaker 1 And did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up, Max, of him talking about honesty as the best policy? That was very funny. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 1 I said on Sunday,

Speaker 1 I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could have handled it better, but I think football is like, everyone's got to look out for themselves.

Speaker 1 But it's just very, like, insanely unself-aware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you lied to the entire Bucs organization. Here it is.

Speaker 28 That's really what this is going to come down to is honesty.

Speaker 28 I want to surround ourselves with people that are going to be able to tell you hard truths, be able to show you your blind spots, because that's really, like I mentioned, where growth occurs and when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror, knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right and the results will speak for themselves.

Speaker 10 I kind of love the idea, though, of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach. Yeah.
Just a guy that's, that's... actually a snake, a guy that's dirty, like the perfect Florida man.

Speaker 10 I want him to like go to a pawn shop with Brian Thomas Jr. try to get 90 bucks for him.
Yeah. I want want him to get paid in scratch-off tickets.

Speaker 1 I want him to do a video with the

Speaker 1 Jags, the viral Jags woman. Yeah.
Like, they need to do that.

Speaker 1 He also dropped an acronym. That's always a no-no in the NFL.
I feel like that's just

Speaker 1 maybe a college, college acronyms kind of work, but his acronym is FAST, and it stands for Fundamentally Sound Attacking Situational Masters Tough.

Speaker 10 Situational Masters is a good one.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 my acronym point, I mean, Matt Eberflus had an acronym, and it was the HITS principle, and the T in HIITS standard for the ball.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, I remember that

Speaker 1 on the wall.

Speaker 1 Situational masters.

Speaker 10 I want to know what that means.

Speaker 1 Why could it be situational football?

Speaker 10 Just

Speaker 10 situational awareness? Masters.

Speaker 10 Because they want to be masters of situations.

Speaker 1 Fundamentally sound. Yeah, like just be fundamental attacking situational football tough.
Yeah. That sounds better than situational masters and fundamentally sound.

Speaker 10 Tough ball, then it would be S-A-F-T-B.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you pull up that? I want to see him explain the acronym. The Jaguars posted it.
And listen,

Speaker 1 I will say this in defense of the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 When Dan Campbell did his introductory press conference, people laughed at it. People said that was crazy.
They said he was a meatball. He's an idiot.
Like, they're not going to win any games.

Speaker 1 He turns out to be

Speaker 1 Max. Is he a winning coach?

Speaker 30 A winning coach?

Speaker 2 I wasn't paying attention on that.

Speaker 30 Dan Campbell, a winning coach?

Speaker 31 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. So he turns out to be a winning coach.

Speaker 1 So you can't fully base every... It's like one of those

Speaker 1 every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach, but every bad coach probably had a poor press conference. Really bad.

Speaker 10 I remember when Jim Zorn was introduced as the coach of the Redskins, he was promoted from being the offensive coordinator before he ever coached the game as the OC. He was promoted to head coach.

Speaker 10 In his introductory press conference, he said, like, I can't wait to represent the maroon and black of the Washington Redskins, which are not the colors of the team.

Speaker 10 And so from that point on, you just were like, I don't really trust this guy 100%. But with Dan Campbell, yes, he's kind of overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference.

Speaker 10 But the first thing that people bring up, usually with Dan Campbell, is like, yeah, you know, this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They still talk. It became a positive.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But it was, at the time,

Speaker 1 it was laughed at for sure.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This is this is Liam Cohn's acronym.

Speaker 29 It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great.

Speaker 29 Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we want to play the game? And that's fast.

Speaker 29 Fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, and tough.

Speaker 29 both mentally and physically.

Speaker 29 You see players in the room right here, guys that I've had conversations with already.

Speaker 32 It will always be about you.

Speaker 1 So he's not the worst speaker. I think it's just that his

Speaker 1 face was put on incorrectly.

Speaker 2 He sounds like he's trying to do a presidential campaign.

Speaker 10 No, he sounds like he's giving a TED Talk about coaching a football team. Yeah.

Speaker 10 If you play that back and think about a guy on stage in like a leather jacket with one of those microphones that attaches to his chin. And now listen to him.
This is a TED talk.

Speaker 1 It's also just crazy because all you had to say was, we want our players to play fast yeah you don't have to do an acronym for it yeah fast is good fast is fast well the faster you are the faster you're out of position if you're not a situational that's true good point

Speaker 1 do the yeah think about ted talk it takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great

Speaker 29 offense defense and special teams how do we want to play the game And that's fast. Yeah.

Speaker 10 This guy's looking for funding.

Speaker 1 This is South by Southwest. They're going to be like, hey, we're going to do a presentation on football.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 10 First, we're going to bring out, Elon's going to host this panel about football guys. Yeah.

Speaker 34 What?

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, I'll say this. It works for the Jags just because it's kind of a hilarious just visual and everything.
And he could end up being a head coach.

Speaker 1 But if you were a Bucs fan that was upset, feelings hurt, crying, being a baby, Stephen Che, you should watch this and be like, we're okay. Yeah, you feel good.
You feel good. You're okay.

Speaker 10 But I hope it works out for the Jaguars. Yeah, I do too.
Max, I have a question for you about the birds.

Speaker 10 Yep. Rumors on the street are that Kellen Moore might be the next coach of the Saints.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about that? Will the Saints get a coach?

Speaker 2 I don't know. He interviewed for that a while ago.
It is alarming that they haven't hired somebody new yet. I was hoping that Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Alarming. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, did they do it? I didn't even know they did a second interview with him. Yeah.

Speaker 35 They flew into Philly.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they went there. Kind of a thirsty move by the Saints.

Speaker 2 No, it's it was, I mean, we lose our coordinator. Jalen Hurts has had eight different coordinators since he's been in the league, and I feel like he's only been in the league for like five years.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 2 that would suck, but you know, you got to worry about winning right now. That's the only thing that matters.

Speaker 1 Are you worried that he's going to be doing interviews instead of getting prepped for the

Speaker 2 interview? He just did his second interview. No more interviews.

Speaker 1 He could have been using that time for the Chiefs.

Speaker 10 Do you think that maybe Siriani is

Speaker 10 looking at Kellen Moore doing all these interviews, and he's like, you know what? Maybe I should take a more hands-on approach. Maybe I could call a few players for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 No, but anti-stat for you, Vangio guy.

Speaker 1 Vangio. Vangio.

Speaker 1 If we get a new van.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it sounds like a.

Speaker 1 Vic Vangio is actually a great van name.

Speaker 2 Last year, Dolphins faced Mahomes. They lost that game, but the Chiefs only scored 14 points, and Mahomes threw for 180 yards in that game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Anti-stat. Most recent time he played.
I never said anything about

Speaker 10 the stat. No, you just got anti-stat.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, the stat I said is still correct. It was a clean.

Speaker 2 I know, but you know, context. I'm adding more context to your stat.
Context stat. Okay.
I was looking up during that whole Bills talk,

Speaker 1 I was looking up anti-stat. So what were the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means in

Speaker 1 so if we just went to seven games, he's 0-7, 10 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.

Speaker 2 No, there was a couple others, that was the best. That was the most recent one, so that's why I used that one.

Speaker 10 You just got Vangio'd.

Speaker 1 I got Vangio'd.

Speaker 1 What were we talking about before this?

Speaker 10 You guys get turned on by just looking at Vangio?

Speaker 1 It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to because you know that

Speaker 1 you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block, and then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There was a clip that was a good one.

Speaker 10 And he'll be pacing around the room while you're gone.

Speaker 1 You just say, you're like, Max, here's a stat. Like, all right, hold that thought.
I'll be back in 30 minutes. Then when you come back, he's like, all right, I found it.

Speaker 2 There was another clip that was going, uh,

Speaker 2 that was like going around Eagles' Twitter. It was like, uh, Chris Canty, he got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen Hurts, and his producer

Speaker 2 stepped in in the middle of it and corrected him. And like, awful announcing was like, wow, one of the craziest things I've ever seen on ESPN.
Someone's producer coming in and correcting those.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 10 Imagine.

Speaker 10 That producer was definitely a Birds fan, by the way.

Speaker 2 I I think he was just like, I think he was like, I had Jalen Hurts top 10 before the year, and his producer was like, yeah, but you also said he was not top 10 during the year.

Speaker 2 I was like, this is my guy.

Speaker 10 That's a Burns fan, right?

Speaker 2 But the fact that Alpha Announcing was like, I've never seen anything like this. A producer.

Speaker 1 A producer. No way.

Speaker 1 Max, is Brandon Graham going to play in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 He's active.

Speaker 1 Wow. And what about Cam Juergens and Landon Dickerson?

Speaker 2 Schefter said that they have a real good chance of playing.

Speaker 1 Oh, real good. Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you like that you're wearing green?

Speaker 1 Not you, the

Speaker 1 team.

Speaker 1 He's already rattled.

Speaker 1 Like, you're already in Super Bowl mode where you're fighting stats. I just, for the podcast listener, I said, do you like that you're wearing green? And Max looked down at his own shirt.

Speaker 1 I meant the uniforms in the Super Bowl, dude.

Speaker 2 Yeah, memes brought that up.

Speaker 2 It's okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 1 Put that on a quote card. It's okay.
Max's thoughts on the Eagles wearing green. It's okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, memes keep saying it's 21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street, meaning it's the same movie. Oh, no.
And I just keep saying it's Rocky 1, Rocky 2.

Speaker 2 All right. But I don't know about ⁇

Speaker 2 I don't think they wore the same stuff,

Speaker 2 the same trunks in both of those movies.

Speaker 10 But you guys are wearing the same trunks.

Speaker 2 You're wearing white. We are wearing the same trunks.
I don't think in Rocky 1, Rocky 2, they're wearing the same trunks.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, they're wearing the green that they wore, the same green they wore in

Speaker 1 the last Super Bowl, correct?

Speaker 2 I believe that was. Yeah, it's the same exact

Speaker 2 uniform matchup.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Other coach hiring

Speaker 1 news. The Cowboys brought in Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference.
We also had Jerry Jones talk more about glory holes.

Speaker 1 He said there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory holes. Very low percentage talking about just the business.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he clarified himself when he repeated very low percentage of the glory holes. This is the second time that Jerry Jones has brought up glory holes, maybe even third.

Speaker 10 I think he believes that a glory hole is a Super Bowl window. To him, it's the same thing.
Yeah. So when he's like, I want to get back to the glory hole days, I want me some glory hole.

Speaker 10 In his eyes, he's talking about being a championship team, but you don't make that mistake unless you're a man that has used a glory hole or two.

Speaker 1 Okay, let me see.

Speaker 10 He might also just be talking about an oil well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he could be.

Speaker 1 So I'm looking at on Wikipedia, it says a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition often often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side.

Speaker 1 They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral sex. I'm trying to find if there's any.
No, the glory holes go back all the way to 1707. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The trials of Thomas Vaughan and Thomas Davis. The two Toms

Speaker 1 going at it in the Glory Hole.

Speaker 10 Is there where Peeping Tom came from?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 So is it anything?

Speaker 36 Let's see.

Speaker 15 In popular culture, no. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 is it an oil well?

Speaker 10 In his mind, it might be. That is a glory hole.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, holehunter.com. I'm not going to click on that one.

Speaker 10 You just go up, you stick your DAC in a hole.

Speaker 1 Yeah, miners would use the term

Speaker 1 for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold, oil, or whatever natural resource you're looking for. There we go.
That's it. That's what he's talking about.

Speaker 10 He's talking about oil, guys.

Speaker 1 No one has told him that Glory Hole means anything else.

Speaker 10 He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Also, Stephen Jones is getting

Speaker 1 kind of lambasted because he did a press conference. Well, he's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones.
He's going to be the perfect Jones heir to have the Cowboys not have any success as well.

Speaker 1 But he was talking about the drought, the 30-year drought Super Bowl and championship game drought, and he did air quotes. Yeah, it's just quotes.
It's just like, you guys. Dude,

Speaker 10 the media has been obsessed with this so-called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls. Right.

Speaker 10 It's a drought. But it's one of those, it's a bad stat.

Speaker 1 It's a misleading stat.

Speaker 10 We've won several offseasons. The funniest part of this press conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer and the whole crowd clapped for him.
It was very nice, very positive.

Speaker 10 And then the loudspeaker introduced Stephen Jones, the executive vice president, and nobody clapped at all.

Speaker 10 And then one guy started clapping and then three other guys kind of clapped, and they pretend to laugh.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 10 You know, they're just busting my balls. They really love me up here.

Speaker 1 That's nice. Yeah.
The Cowboys are a fun watch of just, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's just so funny that they just didn't do a coach search.

Speaker 10 Well, they did. And when they talked to Pete Carroll, he called Pete Carroll to get his opinion on Brian Schottenheimer as their coach.

Speaker 10 And then they said, we also briefly talked about the possibility that he could coach, but it was just, it was a fact-finding call.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So Pete Carroll was probably very confused about that.

Speaker 1 He's like, what is going on here? Am I applying or no? Yeah, probably not. Yeah.
So, all right, do we have anything else before we do hot seat, cool throne?

Speaker 10 We're just not going to talk about the fact that Cardi B has pierced her butt crack. No.

Speaker 1 Okay. I mean,

Speaker 1 no, I didn't know that happened. Yes, I want to talk about it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, she announced that on X.com, the everything app yesterday. So, dot, dot, dot, I got my butt crack pierced.

Speaker 1 Okay. Your thoughts.
How, how?

Speaker 10 Well, then she said, do I lie and post a picture of it right here. So she got the top of it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I see how. That's actually.

Speaker 1 It's actually cute.

Speaker 1 I think that's cute. Wiping has got to be tough.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 She's got to, front to back.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I didn't want to think about this with Cardi B, but here I am.

Speaker 1 It does.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, so she got her butt crack.

Speaker 4 She should have just done so. I did a thing then.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Some personal news.

Speaker 1 And there's

Speaker 10 a picture of her asshole.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushwar punishment.

Speaker 1 Butt crack piercing.

Speaker 1 I'm in.

Speaker 1 Just think about it.

Speaker 1 You say stink about it? Stink about it.

Speaker 1 We also just had a crazy college basketball Monday night with the Duke player puking, which was nuts. I've never seen that much puke on a basketball court.
Yeah. And there's so many towels.

Speaker 1 And then Caleb Love, who is

Speaker 1 not good at basketball, but then hit a 60-footer. to be good at basketball.
He was one for 11 from three and then hit a 60-footer to go to overtime and and win the game. He's got those games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's, yeah. What was the it was like he puked and then a

Speaker 1 fan passed out.

Speaker 10 What's going on in Cameron? From seeing the puke?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's hot.

Speaker 1 I guess it's hot in there. Yeah.
It is hot in there. Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we do hot seat, cool throne? And then we have Jerry O'Connell.

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Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is heat culture.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely. It seems like they're going to trade him.

Speaker 10 How many times is that? Is this second, third suspension this year?

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, he's been trying to force his way out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they've just been playing

Speaker 4 hardball, but it sounds like the Heat, Pat Riley, you know, he had the bigger dick. He ended up on top.

Speaker 1 Sixers?

Speaker 10 Shouldn't the guy with the bigger dick end up on bottom?

Speaker 1 He'd be on top.

Speaker 10 On top? That's painful.

Speaker 1 Sixers? There is a rumor out there. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 I don't. I don't want him.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's old and he has proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker roancer. Can't even win.
Won one Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 Two. Two.
I think

Speaker 10 the older is the bigger part of the equation.

Speaker 10 I think the older piece is the bigger part of the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler in his prime, you would love to have him on your team if you're the Sixers.

Speaker 10 Can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team, you'd never let him go.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 4 Kevin Love also has been just putting on a meme clinic throughout this entire process. I don't know what, like, he just switched the flip and was like, fuck it, I'm just going to.
I love it.

Speaker 4 I'm just going to get my way out through memes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love it. Very, very funny.

Speaker 10 What about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation?

Speaker 4 Phoenix is the favorite right now to land them.

Speaker 10 But Bradley Beal has no trade clause.

Speaker 10 And although, like, yes, you have no trade clause. You negotiated that for a reason.
But come on, Bradley Beal.

Speaker 1 Is there any

Speaker 1 like if you're a GM or you're KD or you're Devin Booker, is there any part of you that's like, hey, instead of trying to get Bradley Beal or Jimmy Butler, why don't we get like five really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys?

Speaker 1 It's so weird to me whenever it's like, what's this, what's the problem with our team? Let's add another alpha that needs the ball.

Speaker 10 I also love that Matt Espiel last year was like, I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward. And now he's trying to do the same thing.

Speaker 10 Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just add another name that we all know.

Speaker 1 They're basically doing the strategy that I do every year with fantasy football where it's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, Tony Gonzalez. I drafted Tony Gonzalez like seven years after he was good.

Speaker 10 That guy was awesome. Damn.

Speaker 1 I see his name. The Warriors.

Speaker 4 Not a Warriors or the other team.

Speaker 1 Warriors are a mess. I mean, a mess in that they are not going to probably make the playoffs.
And I don't know what, like, Steph is. Let Steph be free.
He probably doesn't want to.

Speaker 1 Maybe he just wants to be a Run Jersey guy, but I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before

Speaker 1 he retires.

Speaker 10 It does feel like this is is the end of that era oh yeah definitely like official can you imagine jaybutt on that team with like trying to get along with draymond green no no

Speaker 1 and i don't even think like this is why

Speaker 1 this revisionist history just fucking should have just re-signed clay and just gotten like you have to pick a lane like just maybe just get old together yeah and just be like all right it was fun but everyone got to stay together i don't know I mean, it's not working.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but they were going to have to pay so much. No, I know.

Speaker 1 I just feel like if you know you're not going to win again, just go nostalgia. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 But if there's any chance of winning again, not paying anything. Yeah, yeah.
No, I agree. I agree.
It was a dumb thought.

Speaker 10 I was just thinking of nostalgia.

Speaker 1 I know what you're saying, though. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Which is if the team's not competitive, you might as well just kind of keep everybody around and together and then let them all. Maybe one day they'll all retire at the same time.

Speaker 1 Or maybe they win one series again, like as 37-year-olds. And you're like, oh, that was cool.
Yeah. It's a dumb thought.
I understand. It's a dumb thought.
Really stupid.

Speaker 10 I mean, a dumb ownership group would certainly do do something like that, but a smart ownership group would not.

Speaker 1 Correct. Okay.

Speaker 4 Cool throne. I mean, this is where it's like,

Speaker 4 I think I say this every time, but then I'm saying it right now. I'm talking about it, bringing it up on the show.

Speaker 1 So I have, you know, I don't know where this is going. I fall into the trap.
Any idea where this is going?

Speaker 10 You fall into the trap again.

Speaker 1 Are you going to talk about the Guna side again?

Speaker 4 Nope. I never talked about that once.
My Cool Throne is the Paul Brothers.

Speaker 1 Ah, yep. Ah, that's a good one.
And yes,

Speaker 1 everything you kind of said, I don't really

Speaker 1 didn't really fully go through, but yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 I know what you were saying, and I agree. I don't think it was.

Speaker 10 I should have said it first.

Speaker 4 The Paul Brothers and the Cool Throne. I say this every time.
Yes. I don't want to watch it.
I know it's going to be rigged. It's going to be bullshit.
People are going to walk away disappointed.

Speaker 4 Yet here I am

Speaker 4 talking about it again, and I probably will.

Speaker 1 I definitely will watch it. And I already have Max, the streaming app.

Speaker 10 Right. Yeah.
So it's no additional money.

Speaker 1 Max raised his hand. I do have

Speaker 1 multiple Maxes.

Speaker 10 Memes make the I Fell Forward Again Award, although it's a guy wearing a Celtics hat, and all the medals on his chest are for tuning in to Jake Paul fights.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 they need to be like a knockout.

Speaker 4 The purse needs to be like $5, $5. If either one gets a knockout, $100 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Agreed. Who do you got?

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 10 Logan's bigger.

Speaker 1 No, Jake's bigger.

Speaker 10 I thought Logan was taller.

Speaker 25 But Jake's beefier.

Speaker 10 It's Jake. Is it boxing?

Speaker 1 Jake is the better boxer.

Speaker 4 Jake has been training boxing more consistently. Logan's on the wrestling, and he's done like the faker fighter.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're talking about this.

Speaker 10 Is it a boxing match or is it MMA? What is it?

Speaker 1 It's boxing.

Speaker 4 It also might all be a, it's all, it all might be a work.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because the wording of it is kind of weird. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Logan is. Yeah, imagine they come out and just play rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Logan is 6'2,

Speaker 1 205, and Jake is 6'1, 6'1 ⁇ 227.

Speaker 10 All right, yeah, so Jake.

Speaker 1 And they have the same exact reach. So Jake.

Speaker 10 Also, this time of year,

Speaker 10 have your alert, your intent up high, because anything that you see that stirs your interest, pretty good chance it's a Super Bowl commercial.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 Very good point. This one has a date, but March 27th.

Speaker 1 Yeah, still. But still.

Speaker 1 All right. Okay, good job, Hank.
Good job, Hank.

Speaker 10 My hot seat is saying it with your chest.

Speaker 10 So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday. Our good friend Peter Schrager on that show.
Love Peter. Kyle Brandt, friend of the program.
We like Kyle Brandt.

Speaker 10 He went on a little rant about the Chiefs and the Bills and the reaction to the game and how there were all these people out there saying

Speaker 10 everybody wanted the Bills to do it for America.

Speaker 10 But let's not turn this into the Chiefs are some evil empire out there that is easy to root for and it's us against them and we don't want them to win no matter what

Speaker 10 kyle brand also on sunday put out a hype video for the game i saw that yeah where he was literally rocky as a bills fan yeah and drago from rocky four were the chiefs were the chiefs

Speaker 10 the evil empire was literally the ussr yeah where was drago from uh russia he was from russia he was from russia yeah usr and so he turned the he now he's saying like don't act like you got to root against the chiefs and they're literally an evil empire.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And you got to take down Big Red.

Speaker 10 You just did that. Yeah.
You just did that. Yeah, he made the hype video.

Speaker 1 It was a very well done video.

Speaker 10 And I understand that, like, Kyle, he's not technically a Bills fan. He's like a

Speaker 10 hype guy for the Bills. But still, like, you, you were actually doing that thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you were rooting for the Bills.

Speaker 10 And also, let people root against the Chiefs if they want to.

Speaker 1 I couldn't agree more. And I also, like, I don't care if you want to say,

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for greatness.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're not a Chiefs fan, you're like i'm rooting for graces i i respect greatness that's cool by me if you're just like i hate the chiefs i fucking hate them it's rigged i don't like them i hate patrick mahomes that's cool by me too everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root yeah if you want to root against the chiefs because you think they are satan do it do it please and chiefs fans don't get offended either yeah you like you're winning you you shouldn't worry what other people think about your team i think when you're winning i think kyle tried to do the the neat little pivot yeah from bill's super fan to hey chiefs i love you guys yeah And that's a hard move to pull off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I mean,

Speaker 1 the Chiefs' discourse, like, I just don't, if you hate the Chiefs, you should just hate the Chiefs.

Speaker 10 Now, to be fair, maybe it was a bit because I was listening to it. I wasn't watching.
Maybe they were playing in the background, the rocky montage that he did.

Speaker 1 That would be a bit. Yep.

Speaker 10 In which case, hand up, I got it wrong. But if it's not, then now I feel like it's a different kind of bit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll put my hand upright. Al, I'm not cashing out on my future with the Eagles.
I will be rooting against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, but I also respect his greatness.

Speaker 1 But I'm telling you right now, I'm rooting against the Chiefs.

Speaker 10 I respect greatness, unlike Big Cat.

Speaker 45 Are you going to be rooting for the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 I think I have to. I mean, if I didn't have this future, I would be betting the Chiefs.

Speaker 10 I never wanted to root for the Eagles in that first Super Bowl. Big Cat had literally $200,000.
Yeah, that was a big. I didn't want to be sitting next to him rooting for him to lose $200,000.

Speaker 10 I appreciated that. So I bet eight grand on him, lost that, lost the doink bet to Hank.
I was getting rods from all angles again that week.

Speaker 1 Just bet Mahomes. I did it last year.
Like, it was these fans, obviously, you're like, you always rude against us. I bet on the Chiefs against the Texans.

Speaker 1 I bet on the Chiefs a very big bet against them in the 49ers in the Super Bowl last year. Remember, we were sitting in the gamble cave?

Speaker 1 I think it was you, Dave, a couple other people who were on the 49ers. And I was just sitting there like, I got Mahomes.
This is going to be easy.

Speaker 1 They're going to win.

Speaker 10 I might have to go back to the no doinks well.

Speaker 10 Get my revenge on them.

Speaker 1 What I would say if I did.

Speaker 10 50 grand on no doinks at minus 500. What does that pay out?

Speaker 1 Probably a lot.

Speaker 32 Elliot's been so shaky.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Elliot has been shaky.

Speaker 10 You were gassing Elliot up last week.

Speaker 2 I know, because Coach Gruden told me I had to.

Speaker 1 PFT, I'll say this.

Speaker 1 If I weren't, yeah, if I didn't have the Seagulls future, I'd probably just run back what I did last year because

Speaker 1 it was a very calming Super Bowl watch of being like, oh, but Mahomes. Yeah, he's got me.
Like we're just sitting there watching, like, yeah, but Mahomes is going to, he'll be fine. You know what?

Speaker 1 Figure it out. It's going to be in the fourth quarter, and you'd be like, oh, yeah, one team has Mahomes.

Speaker 10 NFL rigged, I think I'm just going to go with the rigged.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do it.

Speaker 10 Why not?

Speaker 10 It's a decent watch. Betting on Undertaker at WrestleMania.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm one and one in the last two Chiefs Super Bowls.

Speaker 10 But wait, Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Yes, I was there.

Speaker 1 I was there. Ooh, Max, that's good.
That's good for you, Max.

Speaker 2 That's that stat. That's a great stat.

Speaker 1 That's a great stat.

Speaker 1 Okay, was he in your cool throne?

Speaker 10 My cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago.

Speaker 10 This is also a fire fest, but I'm getting to it ahead of time. So I get home on Sunday night.
I sent my laundry out this weekend because I ran out of clothes.

Speaker 10 I had jumpsuits I had to watch, et cetera, et cetera. Two giant, giant duffel bags of clothes.
I get home. They had dropped it off on my porch.

Speaker 10 Somebody stole all my clothes.

Speaker 1 Imagine

Speaker 1 being that burglar and opening it up and being like, what the fuck?

Speaker 10 Yeah, not to brag, but I think I have a pretty

Speaker 1 Takis medium jumpsuit. Yeah,

Speaker 1 so some burglar went up to my house. They probably were thinking, I'm gonna get some good clothes.

Speaker 10 They stole these two huge fucking bags of clothes, got them in their car. They're driving away.
Like, I made out like a bandit. Let's open this up.

Speaker 10 There's probably gonna be Gucci in there, there's gonna be Dolce and Cabana. They unzip it, and they see six different Darius Rucker-themed Washington Commander shirts.

Speaker 1 It's basically like the robbing a bank and having the ink blow up. Yeah.
The ink blew up on all the jumpsuits that you had. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They actually did you a favor if it was a lot of jumpsuits, just clean out for jumpsuit changing.

Speaker 10 There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was, it was pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen. So now I don't really have any clothes.
I went out, I bought

Speaker 10 a bunch of socks.

Speaker 1 We could just, there's a loss I found at my kid's school. Yeah, I could get you a new wardrobe tomorrow.

Speaker 10 You got any propeller beanies I can put on?

Speaker 1 Elementary school.

Speaker 10 But now I'm looking at this and I'm thinking

Speaker 10 this could be a good opportunity. I'm turning 40.
Don't change. Could be time to start dressing like an adult.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be so mad at you if you change. You have a style.

Speaker 10 I was thinking about maybe getting some of the TikTok girls to give me fashion makeover.

Speaker 4 I think you should dress like high, like luxury.

Speaker 10 Like Joe Burrow. Like I turn into Joe Burrow now.

Speaker 1 Backless. All right, I can be down with that.

Speaker 4 I don't want you to change scum to just absolute like

Speaker 1 Louie. But I don't want you to be like crumbhearts.
I dress plain. Hank dresses plain.

Speaker 1 You got to be the one. Max memes, we all fucking wear the same hoodies.
We need the guy who comes in and is like, hey, you guys see this jumpsuit? It's got croissants all over it.

Speaker 10 This to me feels like a great opportunity, though,

Speaker 10 to turn a page. It's like the universe telling me, maybe it's time to stop wearing F-15 onesies.
No.

Speaker 1 But I would be supportive if you wanted to do like a full, like, assless suit like Joe.

Speaker 10 Yeah, like, turn into super, super fashion.

Speaker 2 Did they have, was the one jumpsuit that you looked like a bunny rabbit, was that in there?

Speaker 16 It was.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, they stole my bunny.

Speaker 1 That was Christmas. That was Christmas that I already won.

Speaker 2 That's what I was really hoping is just right on top.

Speaker 1 The first thing he sees.

Speaker 10 That's what's made me not be that pissed off about it. It sucks to lose all your clothes, obviously, but I can get over it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people return it.

Speaker 10 I have, well, the first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood. anticipating that they opened it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their window.

Speaker 10 Yeah. And they were like, fuck this.
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 10 maybe I'll just do the fact. I think I might try the fashion makeover.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I would love to get. Listen, if you're an AWL and you're listening to this and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits and commander's gear,

Speaker 1 no penalty,

Speaker 1 no, no crime. will be committed.
We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag.

Speaker 4 Maybe just return it so we know it's you with like a long note.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just saying like, when I opened this bag, I was disgusted.

Speaker 1 And it made me change my whole life and realize I need to get on the street and narrow.

Speaker 10 Yeah, maybe they learned a lesson. Crime doesn't pay.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. All right, my hot seats.
I got two. One is

Speaker 1 Jalen Milro and hand sizes being back because Jalen Milro has insanely small hands.

Speaker 10 What are they?

Speaker 1 Eight and three-fourths inches. To put it into perspective,

Speaker 1 it would be the smallest hands of any first-round quarterback ever taken. And in 2022, only one starting NFL QB had a hand size under

Speaker 1 nine inches, and it was Taysom Hill.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not good, especially because Jalen Milro

Speaker 1 also does things like throw interceptions and

Speaker 1 not

Speaker 1 throw to the open guys. Yeah.
Not be able to throw.

Speaker 10 That's a very small hand. I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, Hank's got tiny hands.
Yeah, little hands. Little guy.
Tiny little noise. I have big hands.

Speaker 1 Oh, I actually have three hot seats.

Speaker 10 What? But do you see when, like, when Josh Allen fumbled that ball, Pedro Martinez fingers? Just picked it up off the ground, just palmed it. That was a pig snap.
Yeah, like a vacuum cleaner.

Speaker 10 It was a snarf. Hands mean something.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Actually, no, I'll switch one to a cool tour. So my other hot seat is Archie Miller.
Archie Miller, head coach of the University of Rhode Island. Andre the Giant.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference?

Speaker 1 Now, I have to defend Archie Miller and the fact that I also get got a lot, but Archie Miller was doing a press conference after a game talking about what's the toughest league

Speaker 1 in the

Speaker 1 country. You want to play the press conference? Here you go.
Here was his quote.

Speaker 49 Today, like, you know, the SEC is the best league in the country, but, you know, in all games, they're like 54 and 54. Somebody said that.

Speaker 49 I don't know if that's even accurate, but like, do you know how hard it is in every league, you know, to win? You know, it's just hard to win any game.

Speaker 1 So the problem with that is Archie Miller is quoting,

Speaker 1 I got to find the guy's account. I apologize to him.
I'll shout him out. Does he have it there?

Speaker 1 Shout out that guy. He tweeted something that was basically joking.
He was just saying, oh, the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country. Well, why are they 54 and 54 since January 4th?

Speaker 1 Obviously a joke because it's all conference play, and then Archie Miller went and took that stat and used it in a press conference.

Speaker 10 Yeah, because there's some bad teams that are at the bottom.

Speaker 10 When you lose to a good team, the good team gets a win, but you get a loss.

Speaker 1 Just very funny to be like, I saw somewhere 54 and 54, and so that must, that's crazy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, the NFL was 500 this year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 As a league. The league is down.

Speaker 10 It's not getting done.

Speaker 1 For anyone who says the league is down, there it is. The league is down.

Speaker 24 Technically, how many games get, is it always finish?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no. I'm stupid.

Speaker 10 There's one Super Bowl, yeah.

Speaker 1 The Super Bowl. No, I'm an idiot.
I was like, oh, yeah, but the Super Bowl is a standalone game. Yep.
I'm a moron. I just Archie Millard myself.
But yeah, shout out the guy who

Speaker 10 got him, got one conference ends up with a slightly better record. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that will always be. Wasn't that the Stephen Che thing? He did a prediction for the whole league.

Speaker 1 No, but he did it wrong. Off by like.
He was off by laying it down.

Speaker 10 Because his predictions weren't game by game. They were just, I think that this team is going to win their division with 13 wins.
This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have 10.

Speaker 10 This team's going to have 9.

Speaker 2 No, but he did the whole data thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But that's that's impossible. I went game by game, but it wasn't, it was impossible.

Speaker 1 Oh, I found the tweet. Jacob Pickle.
Great.

Speaker 1 Jacob Pickle. Shout out Jacob Pickle.
He said, wow, the best conference in the history of college basketball is 54 and 54 since January 4th.

Speaker 1 ESPN once again showing their SEC bias for some teams that can't even get above 500. That's great.
And then Archie Miller went and used it. Good job, Jacob Pickle.
Shout out Pickle 07.

Speaker 1 Also, great username there.

Speaker 1 My cool throne, I have two. One is our guy, Tailgate Ted.
So he actually hit us up, PFT, and was like, thank you guys for the shout-out.

Speaker 1 And he has a, if you go online, he has, he's trying to raise money for

Speaker 1 lung cancer. Against research.
Yeah, research.

Speaker 1 So shout-out Tailgate Ted if you can donate to the GoFundMe. It feels like

Speaker 1 he's handled it all very well. Like he was obviously made fun of on the internet a little bit, lost a big game.
He's He's turning it all into a positive. Seems like a genuinely good dude.

Speaker 1 And you always have the hard rock. The hard rock, dude.
The hard rock, when all else fails, like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin.

Speaker 10 Put your picture up on the wall of the hard rock.

Speaker 1 Tailgate 10 will just get back to hard rock and he'll just be around his people.

Speaker 10 He does seem like a good guy.

Speaker 10 He also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an internet flashpoint, there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say. Yeah.

Speaker 10 He's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it. Yeah, no, it's going to be a lot of future statements.

Speaker 10 It's going to last for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So everyone,

Speaker 1 his Twitter username is Tailgate10. He's got the links there.
So shout out to him. And then my cool throne is

Speaker 1 Max and the Philadelphia 76ers

Speaker 1 for not posting about the Eagles. Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seater cool throne.
That makes sense. Josh Harris.
Well,

Speaker 1 not really.

Speaker 2 Not really. Every other team in Philadelphia

Speaker 2 posted about the game. The Sixers went radio side.
Kind of

Speaker 1 of a salty move by Josh Harris. Like, the Sixers are Philadelphia.
You have to separate those two. And also, what would it hurt?

Speaker 4 But does Philadelphia own the Sixers or does Josh Harris?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, the people, I mean, the people kind of

Speaker 1 hit it's their team.

Speaker 2 Jeffrey Laurie wants to buy the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone wants to buy the Celtics.

Speaker 1 But Hank, what would it hurt Josh Harris for the Sixers to just be like, good job, Eagles? on their Twitter account.

Speaker 1 That's one of those moves, like, you just have to just ignore it because if you don't, it's a Streisand effect.

Speaker 1 You're not going to, they don't post it, and then everyone's like, you're a salty petty bitch. Maybe he is.
He probably is, which I'm fine with that. But just, dude, who cares?

Speaker 1 I think let him post it.

Speaker 10 If they had posted it, we would also talk about that on the show.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. No way.
I don't think anyone notices those posts.

Speaker 10 Max would definitely be like, your owner just congratulated the birds.

Speaker 2 There's no way I would have noticed that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you would. The only reason is because people were going to all of the every other team in Philly posted about it.

Speaker 2 The Water Dogs posted it. Shout out the Water Dogs.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Water Dogs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're an owner of the Water Dogs. Yep.
Wow. How about that? Bigger man is Josh Harris.

Speaker 1 Way to go, Max. Well, I decided.
That's how you fight back.

Speaker 2 I didn't even think about that when I said that.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 10 I decided to put my business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team.

Speaker 1 I'm just more like.

Speaker 1 There's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own.

Speaker 33 Like, is Josh Harris even on Twitter?

Speaker 10 No, I don't think so. A lot of people are saying Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently.

Speaker 10 They point at what's happening with the Commanders and they say he doesn't care about the Sixers, all this stuff.

Speaker 2 Feels like that's well, the Sixers suck in the Commanders, although the Sixers did just beat the Cavs.

Speaker 1 It is crazy to, like, when you own multiple teams, I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time. Where if one of them's not good, everyone's like, why aren't you making that team good?

Speaker 10 Yeah, because they're like, you don't, we're not your priority anymore.

Speaker 1 I just, I,

Speaker 1 there's no way

Speaker 1 he, by not posting it, you're just like, oh, he's bothered. Yeah.
That's my only point. Yeah.

Speaker 10 The Commanders are to Josh Harris, that's Baron.

Speaker 10 The Sixers are like

Speaker 1 Eric.

Speaker 10 And then the Devils are like Don Jr.

Speaker 1 If you want to put it in Trump terms. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 35 You got that?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't understand what also, I only found out about this because Max came up to me and was like, you see, Josh Harris didn't post this? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, I was mad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you actually care about like, now I'm back on PFT's side because, like, you can't actually be like, why the fuck haven't the Sixers post this?

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 I didn't know about it until other people were talking about it. And then, although, realistically, I think it's probably like the social media manager who was like,

Speaker 2 I'm just not going to post about this because I don't know if my boss is going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris's desk.

Speaker 2 I assume that's probably what it was.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I don't want my boss mad at me. Correct.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And honestly, like, fair play to both sides because if he had posted that from the Sixers, then I would have been like, what the fuck, dude? Like, his fans in D.C.

Speaker 10 would be mad, or his fans in Philly would be mad if he doesn't post it.

Speaker 1 You know what he should have done? Is he should have just posted from the Sixers account good season commanders? You just ran into a better team.

Speaker 1 Like, compliment the commanders and be like, but the Eagles are a better team.

Speaker 1 Like, this shit happens. That's what sports are.

Speaker 10 The NFC East once again representing

Speaker 10 the NFC in the Super Bowl. Congrats.

Speaker 2 NFC Beast. Yep.

Speaker 1 NFC Beast. NFC Beast.
They have not. Because usually teams will get bullied into this.
They have not updated it. Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl? They got to, right?

Speaker 10 If they win?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 They got to.

Speaker 1 Also, the real.

Speaker 10 If they lose and they post something, that'd be very funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Now that would be funny.
Yeah. They're like, oh, so close.

Speaker 10 Great season, guys. Nothing to be ashamed of.
So close.

Speaker 1 Basically, like you didn't win a playoff game. Yeah.
If you don't win the whole thing. All right, let's get to.

Speaker 10 I guess it falls on our shoulders now.

Speaker 1 Let's get to JOC. We got our

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our very, very dear friends. He's a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 1 It is Jerry O'Connell in studio.

Speaker 1 There's no one that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I say, when I texted him, I was like, hey, we want to have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything.

Speaker 1 He just said, okay, what day works? And I was expecting it to be Zoom. And he's like, all right,

Speaker 1 I'm going to land in Chicago at 7 a.m. Then I'm going to fly back out at 3 o'clock.

Speaker 1 That's what you do for us.

Speaker 1 You came in, you have the briefcase.

Speaker 37 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 What's the flight schedule today?

Speaker 24 Flight schedule was I flew out last night at 11 p.m.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 53 Landed 5 something.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 23 Went to.

Speaker 14 It's great.

Speaker 55 They're a partner.

Speaker 15 Went to Planet Fitness.

Speaker 1 You should have just come here to our new gym.

Speaker 9 I should have yeah we have a planet fitness right here yeah i would have come here it's just like hank is like all oiled up and stuff and yeah like waiting on the squat rack and um

Speaker 57 you got to go in the locker room with him and he's like you want to do steam and you're like no man yeah and he's like watching you and then uh i didn't bring shower shoes there's no way i'm going in that shower barefoot yeah yeah um So I just went to my PF, man.

Speaker 10 You went to your PF? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then you went and got a breakfast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a breakfast around the corner and uh and then when do you fly back i fly back today at uh 3 p.m there it is my daughters have uh volleyball practice tonight and i've got to go watch them uh

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 66 not start and not play well and um

Speaker 10 act like i'm involved so now that's a nice quick john out here did you stop at any apartments that you've been looking at because jerry always sends us apartments usually on chicago's gold coast he's like hey look what you can buy here it's so funny my algorithm is so crazy by the way um

Speaker 9 shout out to all the algorithms out there they've really got it figured out

Speaker 19 the algorithms um red note my algorithm is um

Speaker 1 well i mean

Speaker 69 first and foremost it's usually like

Speaker 1 uh boom big tits yeah no mine's all i've actually i don't know if you do this but i uh because the algorithm always works and if you click on it if you if you watch the video they'll give you more of that so i always make sure that i watch the big big tits.

Speaker 1 So now it's pretty much only big tits.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it is just,

Speaker 70 it is a little, it gets a little awkward because I have

Speaker 9 two teenage kids and a wife.

Speaker 61 And if you say anything like, oh, hey, look at this text that so-and-so sent and it's Instagram,

Speaker 23 that usually comes up.

Speaker 36 And I'm always like, whoa, whoa, what is this?

Speaker 38 I'm not following them.

Speaker 1 What is this?

Speaker 1 Shout out to the algorithm. Zuckerberg.

Speaker 19 But it's that. that.

Speaker 34 A lot of it lately has been

Speaker 23 Josh Allen crossing an imaginary

Speaker 23 first down line on that fourth down play.

Speaker 53 I don't know if it heard me talking about it.

Speaker 23 It's in my thoughts.

Speaker 21 I mean, I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it.

Speaker 56 I've just been thinking about it a lot because...

Speaker 52 I live at home with my wife and daughters, and I'm the only one who watches football, so I have no one to talk to about it.

Speaker 24 So I haven't even been like saying anything out loud.

Speaker 8 It's just, it's been feeding me that.

Speaker 45 And finally, what it gives me is moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area.

Speaker 1 They are great deals.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 64 I must have clicked on one and sent it to you guys.

Speaker 19 And now it's my thing. Oh, also, I have

Speaker 22 other algorithms like I have a Giants friend.

Speaker 23 And anytime there's a Giants meme or anything, you know, a lot of stuff with Daniel Jones wearing his helmet on backwards.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you saw that one where his helmet is.

Speaker 76 Like I send him that Jets meme.

Speaker 61 I have a few Jets friends that I send Jets memes to and uh

Speaker 1 I mean we should uh talk more and I could send you some commanders memes and some bears memes yeah that'd be great you send you have free reign to send any texts uh you know it's funny I do um I don't send you guys many sports memes because I'm sure by the time I've seen it, it's been sent to you one million times.

Speaker 61 So

Speaker 20 I try not to waste your time.

Speaker 70 I do have a texting relationship with both of you, and I don't try to abuse it.

Speaker 80 I try to send you interesting things.

Speaker 1 And you also have a texting relationship now with Max, memes, and Pug. You got the whole...

Speaker 1 You basically asked for all the numbers and you've been texting with it. I almost just threw you into the part of my take group tech.

Speaker 53 No, no, I have a question.

Speaker 1 It would turn to green.

Speaker 10 Yeah, go green, and also we'd be talking about what dinners we're going to get a lot, and you'd be jealous.

Speaker 1 Wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that group text and being the only green bubble just to fuck with them hard.

Speaker 10 I think it was a 15-person group chat. I tossed Jerry in.
It immediately turned to the green bubble, and everybody was like, Who the fuck is this?

Speaker 10 And Jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos and started sending shirtless pictures to the chat.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 10 You took it upon yourself to organize the draft order by taking names out of hat while shirtless.

Speaker 9 Well, we were a week away from our draft and we still did not have a draft order.

Speaker 79 So I made a video of myself

Speaker 55 doing the draft order.

Speaker 37 And if you recall, there was

Speaker 23 a controversy, as they say in England,

Speaker 23 a controversy

Speaker 32 where we got the first pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 16 And everyone said I cheated. Yeah.

Speaker 20 And I was actually upset that we got the first pick because you got to take Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 64 And thank goodness.

Speaker 37 Thank goodness they just went to some random pickinator to redo the draft because we would have been fucked hard.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 it started with a bang.

Speaker 10 I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get-go, but then after like one, two, three months, they grew to love Jerry.

Speaker 10 And now Jerry is like the unofficial mascot of that fantasy league, which it goes to show you, if you keep Jerry around long enough, you're going to end up loving him.

Speaker 65 Yeah, guys, I really,

Speaker 9 I'm, I feel like I'm, I'm, I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our, of our, of, of our league.

Speaker 79 Like, I really dropped the ball for you guys.

Speaker 81 I lost by,

Speaker 63 for those who don't know, I posted a few times on X.

Speaker 65 We lost

Speaker 23 in the game that would have taken us to the championship by 0.10

Speaker 36 points.

Speaker 5 0.10.

Speaker 61 And that's on the manager.

Speaker 24 You know, it is on me.

Speaker 1 I saw the manager.

Speaker 23 I got to tell you, hand up, I take full responsibility.

Speaker 24 I never admitted this to you, and I'm going to say it now.

Speaker 32 At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight-up trade.

Speaker 48 Max, are you listening?

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 yes, I'm listening.

Speaker 2 I'm listening.

Speaker 32 We were offered a trade straight-up.

Speaker 23 A.J.

Speaker 24 Brown, we had Joe Mixon, and I turned it down.

Speaker 81 And that is why we lost.

Speaker 27 I don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed.

Speaker 65 He had single-digit scoring weeks week after week after week, and you have to start Joe Mixon.

Speaker 34 And,

Speaker 43 you know,

Speaker 9 I'm not defending myself here, but in my defense,

Speaker 45 you know, A.J.

Speaker 23 Brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines.

Speaker 51 He was reading self-help books in between plays.

Speaker 58 I just thought the Eagles were going to eagle, and I didn't want any part of that.

Speaker 23 And that was my mistake.

Speaker 20 And I want to apologize to your faces.

Speaker 26 Okay. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Apology apologize. A little bit of a paper because I got to tell you

Speaker 65 that.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 I just said I feel a little bit like John Mara, where it's like,

Speaker 10 I'm going to kill myself if A.J. Brown beats us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm doing this right now.

Speaker 10 Is it fair to say, Jerry,

Speaker 10 you're not on the hot seat.

Speaker 10 But people are asking if you're on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 I think, yeah, I don't even think it's the hot seat. I think people are saying maybe he needs, like, you know, when a coach, Nathaniel Hackett, when he was was with the Broncos, he had to bring in

Speaker 1 a clock manager. Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be like a senior analyst that can at least, you can talk things through with them

Speaker 1 when you're worried about a trade or a starter sit? Just

Speaker 1 an old head that maybe has been through the wars that can give you some advice.

Speaker 1 That's just been thrown out there.

Speaker 10 Yeah, not anybody that's above you. Right.
But just, you know, somebody that you can ask questions.

Speaker 1 Well, they would, that person, if we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us. Right.

Speaker 1 And Jerry would have to report to them. But again, not above you.

Speaker 53 I would like to remain calling all the plays.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 63 I feel that responsibility should be mine.

Speaker 67 I'm a

Speaker 23 coach of men.

Speaker 1 Wait, what is Sirius? Leader of men.

Speaker 58 I'm a leader of men.

Speaker 64 And I think I can handle it.

Speaker 9 I just want to say for the record, two years ago we made it to the finals, and we lost.

Speaker 9 And this year, we came in third. So

Speaker 1 it's a lot of noise.

Speaker 45 But I mean, like, listen, I mean, like, Josh Allen just defended his coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but questions are happening with Sean McDermott. It's like, has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since DeMar?

Speaker 1 Have you been the same fantasy manager since DeMar?

Speaker 9 I want to say, for those who don't recall, we went to the championship

Speaker 32 the week that

Speaker 67 DeMar Hamlin

Speaker 74 almost died. Prayers for DeMar.
Prayers for DeMar

Speaker 23 went down, and we were losing by just a few points, and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks

Speaker 9 be a part of our total score the next week, and we lost.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 19 you know what?

Speaker 16 I realize that my job is on the line here.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. Listen, we didn't want this to be an accusatory.
It's not an intervention. We just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization.
When we lose in the playoffs,

Speaker 1 we have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process. Is the process what we want it to be?

Speaker 10 Because the standard that we have as an organization, it couldn't be higher. Yeah, the standard is anything less than championship.

Speaker 10 We don't think about that. Our goal is to win championships here.
And I'll speak on behalf of Big Cat. We're giving you a vote of confidence.

Speaker 1 You're our manager. You are our manager.
You're our manager. Whether we

Speaker 1 add a general manager,

Speaker 17 who knows?

Speaker 1 But what would you say the standard is?

Speaker 9 The standard is I

Speaker 1 already missed it.

Speaker 10 You already fucked it up. What is the standard, Jerry? Championships.
No. Jerry, what is the standard?

Speaker 1 The standard, what is it?

Speaker 8 What is the standard?

Speaker 56 The standard is winning.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 10 You're so close.

Speaker 20 The standard is defeat is impossible.

Speaker 1 Just defeat it.

Speaker 10 The standard is the

Speaker 1 standard. There it is.

Speaker 17 Got it. All right.

Speaker 1 It's our guy. I don't like how long it took.
You know what? See, we're culture guys.

Speaker 1 I don't like how long it took to get there. Okay.

Speaker 43 Let me go through.

Speaker 20 I did some research.

Speaker 9 I have a fantasy recap. And what we might do next season.

Speaker 24 Is it okay if I go through that and then you can.

Speaker 1 I had a question for you before we go through that. Sure.

Speaker 37 It's not the robot question yet.

Speaker 1 No, it's not the robot question yet.

Speaker 1 Is your wife ever going to follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us, and she doesn't follow us.

Speaker 1 That's a,

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like, locker room culture.

Speaker 1 I went and looked, and the last four tweets are directly at me and PFT. Yeah, and she does not follow us back.
One of her tweets, our daughter just sent me this video.

Speaker 1 She was simply doing her homework on a Sunday night. They don't know who Dak is.
This is Jerry's erratic behavior. I was talking about on your sports podcast.

Speaker 1 Also, there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving. What is happening, PFT and Big Cat? Jerry will only talk about benching Laporta.
It's bumming everyone out. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 And then she said, so happy, pardon my take, fantasy football season is over. Big Cat and PFT, Jerry is torture on Sundays.
And do you know why? Because he sucks at it. Loser.
Get a new manager.

Speaker 1 This is your wife, Supermodel, by the way,

Speaker 1 who is calling you a loser

Speaker 1 and asking us to fire you.

Speaker 1 Is Is that winning culture?

Speaker 60 Listen, I don't, I'm not in charge of her socials.

Speaker 52 You know, I'm not that

Speaker 52 ingrained in her career.

Speaker 23 It's not like a Blake Ladley Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the two of us.

Speaker 53 We do our own thing.

Speaker 24 But my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow someone, you can DM someone.

Speaker 48 And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's over and over and over. I don't think that's what we said.

Speaker 10 I said, I loved her in the swimsuit issue. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but then you like

Speaker 44 a weird like lip, you like licked your lips.

Speaker 1 I don't think I licked my lips. We just said that her swimsuit issue was a very big part of our childhood.

Speaker 10 I became a man. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Yeah, but I would, they're right there.

Speaker 1 I'm saying I became a man.

Speaker 1 It could be anything that you masturbated

Speaker 19 to my wife. And why would my wife follow you?

Speaker 10 No, I'm saying she, I grew up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that could be anything watching her.

Speaker 1 that could be learning how to drive a car that could be a bar mitzvah that'd be kinson yara there's a lot of things that becoming a man is yeah but why you know my wife for decades has dealt with like weirdos and creeps like and i weirdos what i will point us out to him we'll we'll handle them for her Like, is Jerry bothering you, Rebecca?

Speaker 1 All right. We'll help you.

Speaker 30 I will talk to her about following you.

Speaker 23 I'm sorry.

Speaker 58 I didn't know that you weren't being followed.

Speaker 1 Also, it's okay. It's okay, but she's listening.
She is, I would say, the perfect example of our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager. So we want to hear from the fans.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Maybe we need to do a JerryCon where we invite all the fans and they can tell us face to face, hey, here's the problem with his fantasy managing.

Speaker 1 We answer to the fans.

Speaker 10 Jerry, let me just ask you this. Stand by me.
Yeah, I've seen it. Great film.
Thank you.

Speaker 70 Classic.

Speaker 10 How would you describe that? What is the genre of film that is?

Speaker 52 A buddy, a coming-of-age film.

Speaker 23 Exactly.

Speaker 10 Interesting. Rebecca Romaine was a coming-of-age thing for me.

Speaker 9 I understand what you're using the word coming.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. You said you were coming.
You said you weren't coming. You started that.

Speaker 43 You.

Speaker 1 It was a longing.

Speaker 10 German muse with the two dots.

Speaker 1 It was a booming. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 It's a cooming of age.

Speaker 1 He was zooming.

Speaker 17 He was zooming there.

Speaker 1 I would agree with you. A cooning of age.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 Guys, listen, let me get to my fantasy preview for you.

Speaker 9 What I can do for you as a manager.

Speaker 24 I know you're thinking about bringing someone else in.

Speaker 23 I don't want to bring anyone else in. I think I can handle all the play calling duties.

Speaker 24 Let me just give you the research I've done based on the 2024-25 season and what we have to look forward to.

Speaker 1 Okay, you have that floor. Yeah, this is basically it.
This is our exit interview. After a tough season, what it is.
That's what they do.

Speaker 1 Every team does this. After the season's over, all the players meet with the coach and the GM, talk about, hey,

Speaker 1 what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at?

Speaker 13 Is this a performance improvement plan?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 We only have one of those that we're allowed to use, and it's currently being used. It's like a franchise tag.
We're currently using on memes. So the pip can't be passed around like that.
Okay,

Speaker 64 let me go through my preview.

Speaker 1 Okay. So the exit interview.

Speaker 25 You're not exiting.

Speaker 10 What would you say you do here, Jerry?

Speaker 1 I didn't know that Joe Mixon, I mean, that's also just, that's a transparency issue.

Speaker 1 Because you find out, yeah, like the athletic is going to do a story about this, being like inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the Pardon My Take Fantasy League and be like, Jerry O'Connell turned down A.J.

Speaker 1 Brown for Joe Mixon, and that's where the season, that's where he lost. Because imagine if you're A.J.
Brown, or sorry, if you're Joe Mixon and you know that Jerry is shopping you,

Speaker 1 how do you go play ball after that?

Speaker 10 It'd be tough.

Speaker 78 It would be tough. And you said that

Speaker 1 his season took a downturn

Speaker 1 right after you had him on the trade block.

Speaker 47 He actually fucked us. He fucked us

Speaker 82 out of winning the whole thing. Oh, guys, you want to see my Planet of Fitness shorts?

Speaker 1 I was in sort of a rush.

Speaker 32 I had to go with the Jorts today.

Speaker 1 Are those the Bing Bong Jorts?

Speaker 18 Oh, man. How about Mr.
Bing Bong?

Speaker 76 Can you believe I was in Standby Me? I was at Jerry Maguire.

Speaker 20 And currently, the thing I'm most known for is Mr.

Speaker 37 Bingbong.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for NBA playoffs. We got to bring him back.

Speaker 87 All right. Here we go.

Speaker 9 This is our fantasy recap exit interview.

Speaker 1 You don't like that word, but that's what they don't like it.

Speaker 51 Let's start with the AFC North.

Speaker 9 Let's start with the Bills.

Speaker 13 That was a bummer this weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Timeout.
Yeah. Big Cat.

Speaker 10 I think we need to get somebody that's going to be a good one. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry. Sorry.
AFC North.

Speaker 1 I feel like Jill Biden now. I have to be like, no, he's fine.
He's of sound mind and body.

Speaker 1 He can still do this job.

Speaker 10 Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help in decision making?

Speaker 43 No, but actually,

Speaker 23 sometimes

Speaker 77 when I gamble,

Speaker 20 I look at fantasy defenses, how they're going to perform.

Speaker 64 And

Speaker 64 I was always looking for a system with gambling.

Speaker 24 And I thought, oh, what if I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet whoever

Speaker 12 bet against the team that that defense is playing?

Speaker 55 And it didn't work.

Speaker 85 It wasn't a system.

Speaker 10 I know that Brick is a listener of this podcast. Brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with Jerry.

Speaker 15 No, don't do it to me, guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, he knows the inside and outs of an NFL franchise. Don't do it to me.
Okay, okay. So, where are we starting?

Speaker 37 AFC East.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 87 Let's start with the Bills.

Speaker 66 Their receivers have been a total bummer this season.

Speaker 89 I mean, Khalil Shakir is their number one receiver.

Speaker 32 Omari Cooper,

Speaker 25 they got hosed by the Browns, man.

Speaker 46 That was a bad trade.

Speaker 60 Kincaid has been a bummer.

Speaker 45 Of course, Josh Allen is a stud.

Speaker 1 Of course, James Cook, man, he was possessed

Speaker 56 so good on Sunday.

Speaker 37 Led the league with TDs.

Speaker 64 16.

Speaker 64 But

Speaker 45 nobody else.

Speaker 10 Cooper was weird because it looked like it was going to be a good trade right at the start. And then nothing.

Speaker 90 Nothing.

Speaker 45 He had one game against Tennessee,

Speaker 75 but nothing.

Speaker 86 And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend.

Speaker 73 All right, let's go to Miami.

Speaker 25 I want to apologize to you guys also for not making that

Speaker 8 A.J.

Speaker 23 Brown trade, but also I did not see Jonu Smith this season.

Speaker 45 And that's something, if you are managing a fantasy team, you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top five in their position.

Speaker 1 That might even have been a waiver wire.

Speaker 57 It may have been.

Speaker 8 I just didn't see him, and I apologize. It was too late.

Speaker 10 What happened with our wire this week or this year?

Speaker 10 Did we make any big pickups?

Speaker 19 We,

Speaker 9 you know, Jalen Warren was a waiver wire pickup.

Speaker 51 I don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire.

Speaker 1 Because that do not recall. Please note it in the exit interview.
That's it. I do not recall.

Speaker 10 But can I have like Belichick? It's like the undrafted free agents. That's where you win.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And his answer was, I do not do not recall.

Speaker 10 Not important.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 75 But you know what?

Speaker 20 Tyreek Waddle and Tua,

Speaker 20 A-chan is, of course, is

Speaker 88 incredible, but I got to tell you my problem with Miami.

Speaker 65 Your head coach

Speaker 23 can't shiver on a sideline.

Speaker 1 That's not allowed.

Speaker 23 And I got to, I'm not even making a joke here.

Speaker 69 Like, refugees shiver.

Speaker 1 Like, like, dogs,

Speaker 60 dogs that don't have homes.

Speaker 46 Oh, by the way, Max, way to be.

Speaker 1 Congrats on NOLA.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 2 Thank you, Jerry.

Speaker 14 Billy, whatever. Nola.

Speaker 1 Billy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nola.

Speaker 47 Rescue dogs shiver.

Speaker 1 You know, head coaches can't shiver.

Speaker 23 I agree on national television.

Speaker 10 That's why I like a fat coach. Yeah.
You have a good layer of insulation.

Speaker 23 By the way, I think Tyreek Hill is going to go to Washington.

Speaker 1 You think so? Oh,

Speaker 1 interesting.

Speaker 23 I think Josh Harris is going to pay that $27 million, and it's going to open everything up. And I'm really looking forward to that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's a great player. He's still really, really good.
I just don't know. You got to take a gamble on his, you know, some of the off-the-field stuff.

Speaker 30 I think Coach Quinn can handle it. Okay.

Speaker 52 I think that would be fun.

Speaker 58 The Jets, memes, are you there?

Speaker 1 Hello.

Speaker 1 None of them. Ever.
Yeah. Again.
Ever again.

Speaker 24 I think this team this last season is going to be studied

Speaker 23 for what not to do.

Speaker 8 By the way, this is part of my take.

Speaker 18 We have to have takes.

Speaker 66 I think the problem is Aaron.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 73 I think he's the problem.

Speaker 19 And I'm going to tell you why.

Speaker 43 I told you I have teenage daughters.

Speaker 80 They're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home, young men,

Speaker 9 and I make them say hello to me and I shake their hand and I go, hello, nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 I'm their father.

Speaker 64 And I look them in the eye. I look them in the eye to look for,

Speaker 69 to see if they're druggies.

Speaker 80 And I got to tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes.

Speaker 44 He looks like a druggie.

Speaker 23 And I know this because I'm dealing with young men all the time.

Speaker 55 And I look at them and I'm like, is this a druggie?

Speaker 20 Is this a druggie?

Speaker 8 You're a druggie. Get him out of here.

Speaker 27 Aaron Rodgers just has druggie eyes to me.

Speaker 58 And you know what?

Speaker 23 You don't want that around Brick. We mentioned Brick.

Speaker 10 Impressionable.

Speaker 1 Impressionable. Yep.

Speaker 77 Oh, my Jets buddy, memes, are you still there?

Speaker 26 Still here.

Speaker 52 My Jets buddy thinks that Justin Fields is going to come to the Jets.

Speaker 10 Interesting. Yeah.
I got a name for you. Okay.
What about Derek Carr?

Speaker 1 That's a good name.

Speaker 45 Yeah, it's a good name.

Speaker 68 I just, this season really.

Speaker 10 You're just off quarterbacks.

Speaker 34 This season with him, I'm just not feeling it.

Speaker 8 I know he's a friend of the show.

Speaker 68 I listened to his interview.

Speaker 26 It was a great interview.

Speaker 15 He looks good.

Speaker 85 Good arms. Definitely works arms.

Speaker 10 No druggy eyes. Maybe Prozac eyes.
He's got the mascara.

Speaker 26 He's got beautiful eyes.

Speaker 36 He's got pretty dreamy eyes. Yeah.

Speaker 19 Oh,

Speaker 20 I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to.

Speaker 1 I think he'll go to Tennessee.

Speaker 1 That's kind of perfect for him.

Speaker 12 I could see that happening.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Maybe the Browns.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Steelers.

Speaker 73 Maybe.

Speaker 71 All right.

Speaker 43 The Patriots.

Speaker 77 Hank, are you there?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 68 Man, can you believe that people actually get nervous when I'm about to talk about their name?

Speaker 1 Yeah, give me a final judgment. Yeah.

Speaker 31 I can't believe it actually matters.

Speaker 1 Oh, memes hates you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets. Yeah.

Speaker 23 Listen, memes, I'm a Jets fan.

Speaker 9 It's got to be said.

Speaker 24 Sorry, memes. We didn't have a coach all season.

Speaker 1 See, he's not. Also, Devontae Adams and Garrett Wilson, you should take them.

Speaker 75 Hey, you know what?

Speaker 45 I want to ask you, memes.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 65 Does he have druggy eyes?

Speaker 35 Yeah, he's a full-blown drug addict.

Speaker 33 But he had the second best season in the franchise history.

Speaker 10 Top five quarterback.

Speaker 1 Top five quarterback. He was top five everything in the Texas game.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 59 We're going to draft Drake May next season.

Speaker 85 Wow.

Speaker 23 We're going to draft him.

Speaker 59 Let me tell you, Josh McDaniels, Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2.0.

Speaker 5 Wow.

Speaker 1 You got Bug Marone now, too.

Speaker 23 I got to tell you, Hunter Henry,

Speaker 90 Hank, you're back.

Speaker 88 Not only that.

Speaker 1 I I think that's the first time that's ever been said. Hunter Henry, you're back.

Speaker 1 Hank is back.

Speaker 30 You guys are picking fourth?

Speaker 16 Yep. All right, let me say this.

Speaker 20 New York shitball giants pick third.

Speaker 44 If they pass

Speaker 36 on Travis Hunter, the Giants,

Speaker 26 and the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter, I will be so, because then

Speaker 52 we have a Hank problem for years to come if that happens.

Speaker 36 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 78 So

Speaker 10 then he becomes, Hank becomes Hunter Henry at that point.

Speaker 78 It's so scary.

Speaker 65 Oh, but you know what? I think you should.

Speaker 9 The Giants should take Travis Hunter.

Speaker 20 I think you guys at four should reach for that.

Speaker 15 I'm going to mispronounce his name.

Speaker 51 Tet McMillan Tetoria.

Speaker 1 Oh, from Arizona. Yeah.

Speaker 8 That awesome wide receiver, Tetoria.

Speaker 24 Somebody help me look it up.

Speaker 12 Max, you're good with accents. You're good with names.

Speaker 12 Tet

Speaker 1 Max? You can just call him Tet.

Speaker 2 That's what I've been saying.

Speaker 24 No,

Speaker 36 I want to say his full name.

Speaker 1 Look it up.

Speaker 1 Tetoria. Tet.
His name's Tet.

Speaker 1 His name's Tet.

Speaker 1 Good one, Hank. Tetoria.

Speaker 10 Tatara.

Speaker 1 Come on, Max.

Speaker 10 Guys, give it one shot, Max.

Speaker 1 Go for it. Tetairoa.
T-Mac. Tetyroa.

Speaker 1 Tatyroa.

Speaker 1 Tetyro.

Speaker 4 Tateroa.

Speaker 1 Tet. Tyroa.
Tet.

Speaker 77 All right, T-Mac. I think you should draft T-Mac in that fourth spot.

Speaker 32 You should reach for it.

Speaker 23 But, Hank, great job, man.

Speaker 24 I mean it.

Speaker 12 Really good job. Thank you.

Speaker 10 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 94 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 95 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.
Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 95 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this.
Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 94 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 95 That's a winning play.

Speaker 32 All right, let's head over to the AFC West.

Speaker 14 Okay. Right.
The Chiefs, right? Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Okay, the Chiefs.

Speaker 75 It's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year. You know what?

Speaker 59 I know Mahomes had big games, that Carolina game, that Tampa game,

Speaker 32 a couple others, Houston, Pittsburgh, but he had kind of a blah season.

Speaker 45 He didn't.

Speaker 47 This is a fantasy recap.

Speaker 69 Obviously, they had a winning record.

Speaker 9 This isn't about records. This is about fantasy.

Speaker 64 Everyone on that team had a blah season.

Speaker 9 And watching them these last few weeks, I have a feeling these old heads wait till the playoffs to start playing.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 77 watching Travis Kelsey, it's it's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 86 that's not what we care about, you know?

Speaker 42 Like, we want regular, we want weeks one through 17.

Speaker 45 Oh, hey, I have a non-fantasy question.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 74 Obviously, Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld, Steinfeld, get in Steinfeld, Haley,

Speaker 77 Haley Steinfeld,

Speaker 27 Tetori,

Speaker 77 get engaged.

Speaker 20 Does

Speaker 80 Travis and Taylor do they feel that pressure?

Speaker 10 I think she's waiting to propose to him. I think her fans would be like,

Speaker 10 how dare Travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that?

Speaker 65 Well, isn't she sort of like a.

Speaker 8 I don't want to put anyone inside of like a

Speaker 8 I don't want to cage anybody into their artistic boundaries.

Speaker 8 I don't want to give anyone artistic boundaries, but isn't she sort of a mainstream, like, aren't we waiting for like a formal like engagement from them?

Speaker 48 Like, isn't that informal if the woman is engaging?

Speaker 70 Sorry to

Speaker 70 be

Speaker 10 questioned.

Speaker 10 I was thinking somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on Sunday, what if at the end of the Super Bowl, confetti coming down, Travis Kelsey gets on a knee and proposes to Taylor Swift?

Speaker 10 And we were saying that the Swifties would not like that. No.
Because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment. So what if she proposed to him at like the Grammys or at

Speaker 10 a big concert that she was having?

Speaker 10 That to me feels like that might be the way that relationship's going.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 83 AMAs, Grammys.

Speaker 10 Yeah, then they just become essentially the king and queen of America at that point.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 10 Like they become

Speaker 10 the number one tabloid story. What are Travis and Taylor doing today?

Speaker 68 There's got to be pressure.

Speaker 8 They're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings.

Speaker 83 And,

Speaker 8 you know, he's just giving her a friendship bracelet.

Speaker 62 Like one of those concerts. What do you call them? A friendship bracelet? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, a Swift

Speaker 49 bracelet. Friendship bracelet.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 10 It better be the best ring ever.

Speaker 1 Got to be. Ever.

Speaker 41 All right. So,

Speaker 52 yeah, none of the Chiefs.

Speaker 20 Okay, Chargers.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know what, guys?

Speaker 86 I want to thank you.

Speaker 1 In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Lad McConkey.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 86 And you were right.

Speaker 19 That's how you win fantasy.

Speaker 96 He was a 10th round draft pick for us.

Speaker 20 So let's see.

Speaker 10 The most important pick that our team made, me and Big Cat actually made that pick.

Speaker 1 Surprisingly, he just said that's how you win fantasy, and we didn't win anything.

Speaker 10 We're not winners.

Speaker 1 Players. Sounds like the standard is just getting into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Just ran that down.

Speaker 23 You know what?

Speaker 88 Part of my take, got to have a take.

Speaker 15 Justin Herbert, for fantasy reasons, kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they ran the ball a lot.

Speaker 60 He's not really going to work for us.

Speaker 93 I've got to tell you, too, about the Chargers.

Speaker 23 That Quentin Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo,

Speaker 80 the circumstances, I think it was, was it fourth?

Speaker 20 It was third or fourth down.

Speaker 24 They needed it.

Speaker 70 It was against Baltimore, right?

Speaker 34 It hit him in the hands that he dropped it.

Speaker 8 That was some.

Speaker 45 That was some.

Speaker 45 Remember Daniel Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone.

Speaker 23 That was some butt fumble.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 64 That was some Cody Parky double doink.

Speaker 65 That was like,

Speaker 9 I can't look at that franchise for a few years after that drop.

Speaker 24 It's just one of those. That's fair.

Speaker 20 Oh, Najee Harris might go there.

Speaker 48 That would be interesting.

Speaker 1 That would be interesting.

Speaker 68 Possible landing spot for Tyreek, but other than lad, we're not touching anybody.

Speaker 55 Let's go to Denver.

Speaker 79 Okay, I have kind of a take with Denver.

Speaker 64 Denver gets T.

Speaker 23 Higgins or Stephon Diggs, Cortland Sutton and Bo Nicks are must-drafts.

Speaker 9 Their defense, we played them so much this season.

Speaker 24 They're awesome.

Speaker 60 They could, in that draft, reach for that Matthew Golden guy,

Speaker 38 that tall Texas wide receiver.

Speaker 23 Denver's running game, we're not touching it.

Speaker 24 Javanta is old. Please don't tell me Aldric Estime is good.

Speaker 21 But if they get T.

Speaker 84 Higgins, Bo Nick's Cortland Sutton, must-drafts.

Speaker 85 Okay.

Speaker 10 So you think that if they get another really good wide receiver, wide receiver, then their number one receiver gets better. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Or their number, or we go with whoever their number two, two receiver is.

Speaker 45 But they just,

Speaker 66 I have a theory in fantasy that you need.

Speaker 64 You need that Addison to help Jefferson.

Speaker 91 You need that Jefferson to help Addison.

Speaker 8 It opens it up and people score more points.

Speaker 59 I mean, point,

Speaker 45 look at the Lions this season.

Speaker 26 They all opened it up for everybody.

Speaker 10 I do think that Bo Nicks is going to have a great year next year.

Speaker 10 Have you seen the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking about the play calls that they have to learn? No.

Speaker 1 And how long they are?

Speaker 10 They go on for like 15 seconds sometimes. You have to tell everybody on the offense what you're doing on that play and then also throw in, okay, here's what we're going to check to in case they blitz.

Speaker 10 The fact that Bo Nix played that well his rookie year in Sean Payton's season, I think he's going to be great great in the second year.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 32 Okay, let's go to the Raiders.

Speaker 68 I don't know what's going to happen there.

Speaker 19 Now, if they get Shadur, okay, which

Speaker 1 they're saying they may trade up to get Shadur, they may trade with the Titans.

Speaker 70 That's a possibility.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 23 I have to tell you, Jacoby Myers and Bowers become must-drafts.

Speaker 85 Love that.

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson is their quarterback,

Speaker 52 I'm not going to watch a Raiders game.

Speaker 23 Not only am I not going to draft anyone

Speaker 23 because they're typically afternoon games, because they're West Coast, I may not watch afternoon games next season.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 8 If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders, if Pete Carroll does that

Speaker 9 to the Raiders fans,

Speaker 59 I want nothing nothing to do with the Raiders. Okay, fair.

Speaker 20 Oh, speaking of Russell Wilson, AFC North Steelers.

Speaker 36 Steelers are in the AFC North.

Speaker 1 Yes, correct.

Speaker 27 Man, like that Seahawks defense.

Speaker 13 You know what? Richard Sherman, Richard Sherman was right.

Speaker 8 They carried Russell Wilson into the playoffs.

Speaker 69 Don't you ever talk about me.

Speaker 1 Remember that? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 I was at that game.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Sorry, receiver like Crabtree.

Speaker 27 Man, the Steelers are in for years of hurt.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 36 It's just, it's going to be years.

Speaker 93 It's going to be bad.

Speaker 69 It's going to be bad.

Speaker 20 Oh, but you know what?

Speaker 60 I will say, from a fantasy standpoint, Najee Harris leaving, Jalen Warren becomes a must-raff.

Speaker 26 Good running back.

Speaker 1 Oh, George Pickens.

Speaker 75 Maybe the Commanders?

Speaker 1 I don't know about that. Why? That would be awesome.

Speaker 10 I love watching George when he's on a different team. Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 90 Hank?

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 85 Cherry, Cherry, Cherry, Cherry.

Speaker 45 George Pickens to the Patriots?

Speaker 1 Eh.

Speaker 20 You don't think that Coach Raybel can straighten him out?

Speaker 4 I don't know if anyone can straighten out George Pickens.

Speaker 26 He's so good, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's not.

Speaker 10 But he's so good.

Speaker 1 But he's also not. All right.

Speaker 73 Ravens, AFC North, right?

Speaker 71 Yep.

Speaker 23 Oh, man. You know what? I missed not drafting Zay Flowers, fellas.

Speaker 9 That was on me.

Speaker 9 You know, I work with a guy who told me once Zay Flowers was small and it was just in my head.

Speaker 21 That happens.

Speaker 80 It just gets in your head, you know.

Speaker 1 You get a taken. It's hard to get off it.

Speaker 19 But you know what?

Speaker 38 I got to say, man, I got to pay you guys a compliment.

Speaker 45 When I came in here with my preview, you said draft Derrick Henry because he's going to look good

Speaker 66 in a Ravens uniform.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 86 And you were right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he looks really good in a Ravens uniform. He looked big, strong.

Speaker 20 Let me ask you something.

Speaker 45 If you were in an executive position

Speaker 1 in the NFL,

Speaker 45 if you were making decisions about players in the NFL.

Speaker 15 The answer is yes.

Speaker 45 And you used these rules,

Speaker 69 you know what?

Speaker 64 He would look good

Speaker 1 in a uniform.

Speaker 31 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think that would uniforms are 50% of the game?

Speaker 66 But do you think that sort of thinking would make for

Speaker 38 do you think vibes? Yeah.

Speaker 31 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to go off vibes sometimes.

Speaker 10 Like you look at the Photoshop of a guy and you think, okay, what if, for example, what if Tom Brady was a Tampa Bay Buccaneer? That looks good.

Speaker 1 Derrick Henry as a cowboy doesn't really look as good.

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 65 Yeah, you guys were wrong.

Speaker 9 I think you said Andy Dalton was going to be a good bear.

Speaker 63 He was going to look good as a bear. Didn't we?

Speaker 1 Well, that's. Listen, Andy Dalton did the new hair.

Speaker 1 So that was. Yeah, maybe it wouldn't work.

Speaker 10 I also love Derrick Henry's new hair. Yeah.
He goes even higher, I think, on my board next year.

Speaker 67 We are definitely, if they're around, going to draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews, that man is going to be on a mission.

Speaker 1 He's on a mission.

Speaker 8 He's got months to just sit at home and think about it.

Speaker 5 What a bummer.

Speaker 76 No, that was so funny when you posted the photo on X of Stavi.

Speaker 24 I'm not going to say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 22 You posted that photo, and I remember looking at it and be like, whoa, I can't believe they're posting that.

Speaker 38 That's not good. And then I watched it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 None of it was in the middle.

Speaker 1 He was down bad.

Speaker 71 That was funny.

Speaker 71 The Bengals.

Speaker 77 Man, I got to say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown.

Speaker 24 I didn't.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 51 the more I go through this.

Speaker 1 This is a lot of misses.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 10 us under the bus.

Speaker 1 Sounds like we drafted a perfect team.

Speaker 24 You were right about Chase Brown. I missed on that one.

Speaker 78 Kaseki kind of sucked.

Speaker 9 You know, T.

Speaker 68 Higgins, wherever he does go,

Speaker 70 something to think about. Last two seasons, he's missed 10 games.

Speaker 25 So that's...

Speaker 8 Something to think about when drafting him.

Speaker 32 Obviously,

Speaker 64 all the Bengals, they're great. And you know what?

Speaker 52 I think that Al Golden guy was their new defensive coordinator.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 23 I don't know anything about him, but he looks like a football coach.

Speaker 10 He's a good defensive coach. Do you think that with T.
Higgins, maybe he missed some of the games because he was thinking about getting a big contract?

Speaker 10 Protecting himself.

Speaker 45 No, I think some players just get injured more often.

Speaker 36 That's true.

Speaker 1 Browns.

Speaker 36 This is interesting.

Speaker 45 If the Browns draft Cam Ward, I think the Browns have the second.

Speaker 80 If they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must-draft for us.

Speaker 90 Okay.

Speaker 70 If the Browns, because Coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins' offensive coordinator, if Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns,

Speaker 8 Jerry Judy will be a must-draft.

Speaker 5 Wow.

Speaker 22 Ford and Chubb,

Speaker 85 we're not drafting them.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 69 if they get a quarterback, Cam or Kirk,

Speaker 1 draft Jerry Judy.

Speaker 85 We're drafting Jerry Judy.

Speaker 10 And when Chubb, when he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited, and it's always the guy that you don't have.

Speaker 10 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Always. Exactly.

Speaker 5 Bummer.

Speaker 47 AFC South

Speaker 16 is dead to us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, skip the whole thing.

Speaker 73 The entire division.

Speaker 22 They're just cursed. What is the word in?

Speaker 75 Hey, Max, max max here here um present

Speaker 87 what's the italian american term it's the malochio it's the molochio it's like the curse right a maloic

Speaker 2 yep malochi molochio sound sounded right to me it's malocchio i think it is it's like the curse yeah

Speaker 26 tetoria tittoria macmillan tetur we gotta get that i want to apologize to Mr.

Speaker 15 Macmillan, T-Mac.

Speaker 85 I'm sorry.

Speaker 63 Once we get it, we'll get it.

Speaker 82 But the Malokio, the AFC South just has the Malokchio.

Speaker 45 C.J. Stroud, let's start with the Texans.

Speaker 1 What a bummer, man. What a bummer.

Speaker 42 I got to tell you, Anthony Richardson, I believe, was more successful than C.J. Stroud this season.

Speaker 20 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 In terms of fantasy points, possibly.

Speaker 90 I don't even care about fantasy points.

Speaker 20 Just in terms of expectations.

Speaker 15 That's a take. I like that.

Speaker 10 I'd like you to go on on that touch.

Speaker 1 That's quite a take.

Speaker 30 Just in terms of expectations, C.J.

Speaker 75 Stroud was a possible Super Bowl contender, and he did not have a good season.

Speaker 1 You know, I know I have a bad taste in my mouth because of Joe Mixon and that trade and how the Texans finished their season.

Speaker 65 Look, Nico's great.

Speaker 44 I get it.

Speaker 18 Tank, get well soon.

Speaker 45 Mixon did have a good season, but I got to tell you, weeks 15, 60, 14, 15, 16, 17, it wasn't okay.

Speaker 20 Schultz sucked.

Speaker 73 None of them. They got the Malocchio.

Speaker 1 The Colts.

Speaker 27 Oh, man,

Speaker 26 I got to take ownership of this, too.

Speaker 59 We drafted as our QB1 Anthony Richardson on our team.

Speaker 8 And that was a mistake. It will never happen again.
I actually,

Speaker 59 I'm coming in here with takes.

Speaker 8 I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple of years.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 10 What did we say about that when Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richardson? I was like, I don't like it.

Speaker 79 You said, don't do it.

Speaker 1 You said, don't do it.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Guys, don't fire him. Please, don't fire him.
We're not.

Speaker 31 I paid for one-third of it, too. I did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, your driveway suffered.

Speaker 79 And it was pricey.

Speaker 9 It was a hit.

Speaker 19 But I've,

Speaker 1 yeah, the Colts, the Malochio,

Speaker 9 Pittman was bad.

Speaker 67 Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor, could you imagine if you had him on your team and he rips off that 41-yard run and at the one-yard line drops the ball?

Speaker 8 And I want to tell you, I wrote down what he said in his post-game interview.

Speaker 26 Okay.

Speaker 43 He wrote, you could be up 50, you could be down 50. It could be a playoff game.
It could be the first season.

Speaker 30 It could be the first game of the season.

Speaker 64 That should just never happen.

Speaker 45 That's.

Speaker 1 But he also,

Speaker 1 he did have incredible games down the stretch. I understand that.

Speaker 30 And he was out to prove a point after that.

Speaker 90 But

Speaker 45 it's still not, I want someone to say, I'm changing my life.

Speaker 66 After they do that at the one-yard line and drop a ball, ball, and by the way, lose a game that they should have won,

Speaker 45 they should say, I need to change.

Speaker 45 I need to change major things in my life.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 45 Something major has to change.

Speaker 12 That's rock bottom.

Speaker 66 Something major has to change.

Speaker 46 Not just like, that just can't happen.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 he,

Speaker 1 this is about you, Jerry, not about me, but I was in three fantasy leagues. I won two out of three of them.
And I had Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 10 So, again, it's about you.

Speaker 63 Jonathan Taylor,

Speaker 88 you won with him?

Speaker 1 I mean, his last two weeks of the season, he had insane games in the playoffs, in the fantasy playoffs?

Speaker 10 It's more about that one yard for you, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that's okay.

Speaker 1 I do agree. Winner, loser, how you decide to get there.

Speaker 10 I would like to see a little bit more, like,

Speaker 10 that's the worst thing that I've ever done in my life after that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I would like to see somebody say that.

Speaker 38 Accountability.

Speaker 1 Accountability matters. That's what we care about.
That's the for us.

Speaker 1 The standard is the standard yep yeah he uh uh weeks 16 and 17 had 218 yards and three touchdowns and then he went 125 yards and two touchdowns yeah like so big cat if if we're looking at one of our employees and they dropped the metaphorical ball at the one-yard line, I would like them to say to me, I'm changing everything about my life.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I agree with you, Jerry.
He did. Good point here.
He literally he dropped the ball and then he scored six touchdowns in the last three weeks.

Speaker 10 Jerry makes a great point that we would like to hear that. Yeah.

Speaker 10 good point.

Speaker 1 Okay, Titans, do we even do the Titans? Do we not do the Titans?

Speaker 85 I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought.

Speaker 85 I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, it's okay. Keep going.
Keep going.

Speaker 55 I dropped the ball at the one.

Speaker 10 People dropped the ball all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 82 You know what else, Muns, we had about the Colts?

Speaker 1 Oh, who was the Colts' number one tight end?

Speaker 64 Tell me that.

Speaker 10 Number one tight end.

Speaker 66 Who was their leading tight end?

Speaker 9 I'm just going to say Moali Cox for no, it was someone named Kylan Granson.

Speaker 37 Kylan Granson, Moali Cox, and their other tight end, Drew Ogletree, had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long.

Speaker 24 That's not okay.

Speaker 75 Dallas Clark, Jack Doyle, Colby Fleener, Tammy are rolling over in their retirement chairs.

Speaker 44 Jesus. Malochio.

Speaker 1 Malochio.

Speaker 46 The Titans. Oh, I do want to say, I know if we were going to draft anyone in the AFC South and we're not because they're dead to us.

Speaker 1 Pollard's got some gas in the team.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I don't hate Pollard.

Speaker 60 We did draft Pollard on our team.

Speaker 88 All right, good work. Good job.

Speaker 51 Okay, and if the Titans do not

Speaker 69 make that

Speaker 9 trade spots with the Raiders and take Cam Ward,

Speaker 15 Calvin Ridley becomes a must-draft.

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 9 that druggie Aaron Rodgers goes there,

Speaker 15 Calvin Ridley becomes

Speaker 38 a must-draft.

Speaker 23 If we were drafting AFC South players,

Speaker 22 oh, Cam Ward goes to the Titans.

Speaker 23 Their new general manager, Nick Borghazi.

Speaker 60 Not Nick Borgazi.

Speaker 1 Nick.

Speaker 19 Nick.

Speaker 38 Nick Borganzi.

Speaker 9 Nick Borganzi is their new general manager.

Speaker 1 He's the one who scouted Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs. Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 36 Cam Ward on the Titans. Watch out.

Speaker 10 Best quarterback of all time. Watch out.

Speaker 27 Jaguars. I guess Brian Thomas Jr.

Speaker 51 You can't draft Bigsby or Tetien.

Speaker 45 Do they have a general manager yet?

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 45 Tell me about Ian Cummingham.

Speaker 66 Who is Ian Cunningham?

Speaker 1 He is the assistant general manager for the Bears, and I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the Bears would get two picks in the third round, compensatory picks. Wow.

Speaker 82 So you have no.

Speaker 1 I'd like the picks.

Speaker 20 You'd like the picks over.

Speaker 1 He seems like a pretty good

Speaker 1 guy that's trusted, you know.

Speaker 1 But I would like the picks. All right.

Speaker 23 Anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AFC South.

Speaker 16 NFC East.

Speaker 56 We're in the NFC.

Speaker 24 Okay, let's go.

Speaker 26 It's the Eagles, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 38 Birds. Max.

Speaker 23 Next season, if I'm the manager, will I be drafting any Eagles?

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 70 First of all, before I say this, how do we pronounce Goddard?

Speaker 14 It's Godard? Goddard.

Speaker 2 You were right the first time. Just Goddard.

Speaker 78 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 9 But it's spelled G-O-E-D.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 78 So it's spelled Godard.

Speaker 2 Pronounced Goddard.

Speaker 1 Goddard. Goddard.

Speaker 64 We're drafting all the Eagles, man.

Speaker 1 Every single one of them.

Speaker 9 And if I am offered a trade for A.J.

Speaker 13 Brown, I'm just going to fucking click accept trade.

Speaker 1 That feels like something we shouldn't telegraph. Man.

Speaker 10 Smoke cigarette. Yeah, we're just...
We're putting out some disinformation right now, yeah, for anybody listening in that league.

Speaker 9 You understand why I didn't make that trade, right?

Speaker 77 I mean, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 10 Because of the book? Yeah. Because he read a book? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 62 Man, remember that?

Speaker 24 Max, I just want to say, I know everyone talks about Goddard.

Speaker 66 And by the way, I believe, don't quote me on this, leading receiver in the playoffs for the Eagles.

Speaker 58 But you know when he won me over?

Speaker 59 That triple stiff arm in the wild car weekend, man.

Speaker 1 Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.

Speaker 1 Incredible.

Speaker 2 He went back for more. He could have just kept going, but he said he had to slow down to give him just one more punch.

Speaker 19 Oh, I got to give you another props now that we're on the Eagles.

Speaker 46 I was staying at a,

Speaker 78 I don't know if they're a partner of the show.

Speaker 51 I was staying at a

Speaker 53 Marriott Bonvoy hotel.

Speaker 1 Sorry if. No, that's okay.

Speaker 79 And there was an I was just sitting in bed, and there was

Speaker 23 like a Marriott channel, and Jason Kelsey had like an infomercial on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, because he's the spokesperson. He's not usually on TV.

Speaker 69 He was great. He was really good.

Speaker 22 I thought he had a really good personality.

Speaker 1 Talented guy.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I watched that infomercial.

Speaker 1 It was like a 20-minute infomercial, and I was riveted.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it was good stuff.

Speaker 77 I mean, he's not playing anything.

Speaker 64 anything. Are you sure it wasn't just.

Speaker 2 He has a TV show?

Speaker 2 He has a late-night show.

Speaker 1 He does? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 Friday nights. Was it a Friday night?

Speaker 1 What is it on? ESPN. ESPN.

Speaker 20 Sorry, guys.

Speaker 48 This is the only sports I get all the sports on.

Speaker 1 You're right. Yeah, love that.
Love that. Good point.

Speaker 10 Good point.

Speaker 10 Because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel.

Speaker 1 Do you ever think, like, do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like, man,

Speaker 1 if my career had just gotten a little better, that could be me?

Speaker 10 Good question.

Speaker 37 Good question.

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 45 No, I try to just worry about my own lane.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, yeah, no. Hey, listen.

Speaker 19 I mean, I'm here. Mario Leo

Speaker 1 isn't here. That's true.
That's a good point.

Speaker 13 I flew here, coach, last night.

Speaker 78 That's middle seat.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 Did you raw dog?

Speaker 1 Did you raw dog it?

Speaker 67 No, I put on noise-canceling headphones.

Speaker 84 Okay.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I went to a planet of fitness.

Speaker 45 I took a shit.

Speaker 20 I showered. Yep.

Speaker 77 And I came here.

Speaker 1 I'm like, live the dream.

Speaker 45 Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fucking fantasy team again next season?

Speaker 20 Isn't that something that he aspires to do? Why should he just like

Speaker 1 Mario Lopez probably would be awesome as a fantasy team?

Speaker 10 He's a good-looking guy, too, isn't he?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ageless.

Speaker 9 NFC East Commanders, right?

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Based on the NFCs.

Speaker 8 Oh, man. I know I've said this before.

Speaker 26 If Scary Terry gets

Speaker 27 one more receiver, maybe Devontae Adams, maybe

Speaker 23 Tyler Lockett, who doesn't want to be in Seattle anymore, Terry Kill.

Speaker 60 He would have a Jamar Chase, a Jamar Chase-like season.

Speaker 56 Wow.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 10 I think we will get a wide receiver.

Speaker 10 You can bet on that. Going in next year, if we draft somebody in the first round or if we sign somebody in free agency, I think we will have a very good number, too.

Speaker 26 That Zach Ertz is so awesome, too.

Speaker 8 Man, so good.

Speaker 53 Hey, anybody see that video?

Speaker 69 I didn't hear you guys talk about it where Fletcher Cox.

Speaker 23 Max, you on? Max? Max?

Speaker 75 Max?

Speaker 2 I am here. Fletcher Cox hugging Zach Ertz.

Speaker 1 Cox hugging Zach Ertz.

Speaker 8 Man, that was emo, man.

Speaker 58 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was.

Speaker 64 Because it was like, so, because it's Fletcher Cox, and he obviously can't pass a line.

Speaker 23 And he's going, Zach, Zach.

Speaker 60 And it's like calling someone from the stands, you know, Zach.

Speaker 55 Oh, man, that was really emotional.

Speaker 13 Yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 55 That moment.

Speaker 53 I really like that.

Speaker 10 Ert's not retired. He wants to make that very clear.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't.

Speaker 37 Yep.

Speaker 59 He was awesome, man.

Speaker 27 God, I love a Washington tight end as well.

Speaker 1 Cooley,

Speaker 83 Vernon Davis, Logan Thomas. Love him.

Speaker 86 Yeah, maybe they draft that Matthew Golden guy that we talked about earlier, that Texas guy.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 46 Savion Williams.

Speaker 1 TCU, college football expert.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Ohio State.

Speaker 86 Let's help Jaden out a little bit, everybody.

Speaker 77 Jaden and Terry.

Speaker 20 Oh, the Cowboys.

Speaker 9 Okay, this is interesting.

Speaker 45 I guess Dak is staying there because Coach Schottenheimer is now the head coach, right?

Speaker 53 So I guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening.

Speaker 10 I don't think you really can move Dak. I think he probably has a no trade clause, right?

Speaker 1 Ooh, what would it be could trade him to be Titans? Would he be a better quarterback if his name was Zach? Zach Prescott.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Thought star.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Zach Prescott.

Speaker 1 Zach Prescott would be a pretty good quarterback.

Speaker 10 But yeah, I think Dak has the no trade, so I don't know that he would leave.

Speaker 71 All right.

Speaker 64 So he's staying there.

Speaker 64 I got to tell you, that makes me not want to be a part of the Cowboys.

Speaker 46 And by the way, you know Jerry Jones is going to.

Speaker 80 Jerry Jones. You know T.

Speaker 76 Higgins is probably going there.

Speaker 64 Stephon Diggs, he's going to get Aaron Jones over there.

Speaker 22 Water is wet.

Speaker 25 The Dallas Cowboys are going to to go 6-11.

Speaker 8 It's just, it's going to happen.

Speaker 14 I don't care who is over there.

Speaker 23 We'll draft Brandon Aubrey.

Speaker 80 He seems to be

Speaker 10 very good. Their whole offense.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 20 See? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Guys are. Good job.

Speaker 10 The best kicker of all time.

Speaker 1 Good kicker for Jerry O'Connell.

Speaker 8 Okay, let's get to the Giants, still NFC East, right?

Speaker 91 I think the Giants have the most intriguing offseason of any team in the NFL.

Speaker 10 Now, do you have a bias against the Giants, Jerry?

Speaker 45 I don't mind the Giants.

Speaker 10 Because earlier, I think you called them the New York shitbag Giants. Well, they had a terrible season.

Speaker 9 They were unwatchable, and it's been that way for a couple of years.

Speaker 32 They have the third pick, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 32 I said earlier

Speaker 23 they've got to take Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 There's some rumors that they might take Alabama quarterbacks. Oh, crazy high.

Speaker 60 Okay,

Speaker 61 it's been on some

Speaker 1 mock drafts. Yeah, people talk about it.
Okay,

Speaker 21 they get

Speaker 36 Travis Hunter.

Speaker 15 Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants.

Speaker 21 He's got Travis Hunter, Malik,

Speaker 34 and

Speaker 21 that running back, Tracy.

Speaker 59 Max, they're winning the NFC East next week.

Speaker 1 Wow. I don't know about that.
Wow. That's hell of a take.
Wow. Maxie,

Speaker 80 you hear those bells?

Speaker 1 Bing-bong.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You hear footsteps, Maxie.

Speaker 13 Sam Darnold comes there.

Speaker 45 Travis Hunter, Malik, Tracy, they're winning the NFC East.

Speaker 10 It's always a different team every year.

Speaker 15 But they better not take that Jalen Milro.

Speaker 23 I've seen some mock drafts with him up there.

Speaker 69 Let's go to the NFC West, the Seahawks, right?

Speaker 26 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. All right.

Speaker 70 To prepare for this, I listened to about

Speaker 85 20 fucking hours of Locked on Seahawks.

Speaker 89 Kill me now.

Speaker 23 Because I really didn't know what was going on with them.

Speaker 24 And I'll tell you,

Speaker 23 if we even think about drafting anyone there, it's because they went 10 and 7 last year.

Speaker 15 And I want to tell you, the only reason why that team went 10 and 7 is because Mike McDonald is a really good coach.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 77 After my 19th hour of Locked on Seahawks, it seems like Tyler Lockett is leaving,

Speaker 45 which leaves Jackson Smith Najigba.

Speaker 72 I said that correctly, right? I did.

Speaker 23 That was a little scary one. Yeah.
Jackson Smith Najigba.

Speaker 12 Max, memes, if I said anything, just beat me out, okay?

Speaker 1 I'm really toeing the line there.

Speaker 45 Jackson Smith Najigba.

Speaker 26 Yep.

Speaker 10 Say it three times fast.

Speaker 1 No way, man. No way.

Speaker 43 No way. You're not going to Michelle Beetle me here.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 25 No way. JSN.

Speaker 1 How about just JSN? JSN, JSN, JSN. JSN.
No way, man. No way.

Speaker 38 Max, have your finger on the button.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 66 He's really intriguing if Tyler Lockett leaves.

Speaker 72 Okay.

Speaker 65 But you got to be careful.

Speaker 24 He only scored six touchdowns this season, and we need touchdowns if I'm going to be your fantasy manager and if we're going to win.

Speaker 45 Also, Gino Stain.

Speaker 10 What do you mean if we said that you were?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're not getting fired. You just might have a boss.

Speaker 22 The Cardinals.

Speaker 37 Kyler, I still love him.

Speaker 8 He's great. If he's around, we're going to draft him.

Speaker 62 Trey McBride is awesome.

Speaker 22 Michael Wilson was a real bummer.

Speaker 79 Thought he was going to do a little better.

Speaker 27 Yeah, Harrison just needs to step it up or he needs help or something.

Speaker 60 I don't know what's happening there.

Speaker 10 Yeah, we're a pro-Marvin Harrison podcast, just for the record.

Speaker 10 In case he happens to listen, big fans.

Speaker 1 Senior and junior. Of course.
They're both. Yeah.
Love them.

Speaker 10 Great family.

Speaker 69 He had a mediocre fantasy season, though.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it was good.

Speaker 1 He's great.

Speaker 45 I'm just saying, if he's

Speaker 1 talking right now,

Speaker 1 he lives in California.

Speaker 10 Not in Chicago. Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 79 But I'm your fantasy manager, and I want to say if he's there and we have a choice of another receiver, we're probably going of a very cool sort of standard.

Speaker 10 But we're trying to protect you, but if it's going to be you or us, this is you saying that.

Speaker 1 Jerry will be aware of that. Well, we're a team.

Speaker 38 Sound mind and body.

Speaker 86 We are a team.

Speaker 1 He is consenting to anything Marvin Harrison Sr. wants to do.
Yep.

Speaker 1 We are one.

Speaker 77 We are a team. So if someone's here in Chicago and I'm not here, they can come see you.

Speaker 66 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 90 And you represent our team.

Speaker 31 No, no, no.

Speaker 10 Would you take a bullet for us?

Speaker 59 You would probably let me, wouldn't you?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We'd throw you in front of it. Let's go to the Rams.
Not Mario, though.

Speaker 8 Man, he looks so good, that guy. What does he do?

Speaker 10 Jerry, are you going to get into any superhero movies?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 10 You should try to do that.

Speaker 72 You should try to do that.

Speaker 8 I'm the voice of Superman in the animated Superman movies, a few of them.

Speaker 59 You can put up DC animation. Okay.

Speaker 1 But as a career move, maybe talk to your agent, tell them Jerry's going to Marvel.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I've said that often, but it doesn't automatically mean that you're in those movies.

Speaker 1 Push a little harder.

Speaker 77 I know, but you can want something all you want.

Speaker 23 That doesn't mean it's going to happen, you know?

Speaker 1 It's kind of like us in the fantasy championship.

Speaker 10 Speak it into existence.

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Speaker 73 The Rams were taking all of them.

Speaker 1 That receiving core, that Puka Cup, and I got to tell you, Robinson.

Speaker 45 Robinson had two two TD games.

Speaker 60 Shit, say that again.

Speaker 20 Robinson.

Speaker 70 I won't say Jackson Smith the jigba fast, but I will say two two TD games, two two TD games.

Speaker 75 Last season, weeks eight and nine, man.

Speaker 73 Robinson, he may be suspended a little bit.

Speaker 52 He did have a DWI, but

Speaker 9 man, that receiving core is awesome.

Speaker 71 You know,

Speaker 89 I know I told you I listened to 20 hours of locked on Seahawks to do research of this.

Speaker 78 I also wanted to see where Matthew Stafford was, and I couldn't really find out any information.

Speaker 24 So I listened to

Speaker 68 about five episodes of Kelly Stafford's Time Out podcast.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 9 You got any Kelly Stafford as a podcast, Matthew Stafford's wife.

Speaker 80 It's actually an interesting podcast. It's sort of

Speaker 89 from the point of view of,

Speaker 21 Wag a

Speaker 1 term.

Speaker 1 It's not offensive.

Speaker 1 Wives and girlfriends, right?

Speaker 41 Wags of football players.

Speaker 70 So it's sort of interesting.

Speaker 73 But

Speaker 64 I think the sixth episode I was on,

Speaker 24 Kelly got to talking about next season with her husband.

Speaker 60 And

Speaker 68 Stafford said,

Speaker 23 this was exclusively on the timeout podcast.

Speaker 84 You don't mind if I mention other things.

Speaker 68 that Matthew Stafford texted her, let's talk about next season.

Speaker 23 So there it sounds like he's coming back and Kelly is preparing herself for him to come back.

Speaker 10 Because I think, yeah, you would say, let's talk if it was he's walking away. Yeah.
But since he brought in next season, yeah,

Speaker 1 let's talk about it.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Yeah.
So that means that next season exists. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Interesting.

Speaker 8 Brady didn't send that text, did he?

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 1 He just did it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did. Yeah, he did.
That's, I mean,

Speaker 26 maybe he should have sent that text.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 66 You know, I do want to say I did have a revelation in my seventh hour of timeout with

Speaker 32 Kelly Stafford.

Speaker 8 You got to admit, I do work for you guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you put in the effort.

Speaker 71 Effort is important.

Speaker 1 It can take you so far.

Speaker 10 Also important, but it also takes you so far.

Speaker 67 But I was thinking, as you're sort of fantasy expert here um on part of my take um

Speaker 79 some people say to me after they yell like bing bong or stuff like that or yell like maxi

Speaker 54 um

Speaker 59 they say like hey when are you getting a podcast

Speaker 23 and

Speaker 45 you know i was like yeah like

Speaker 59 when am i getting a podcast like

Speaker 45 and then when i told you i was in the seventh hour of of Kelly Stafford's timeout,

Speaker 45 I was like, you know what, guys,

Speaker 9 I think we've reached the end of the earth.

Speaker 25 I think there's all the pockets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've hit them all.

Speaker 10 You know, it'd be interesting, though, is like if there was a Wags podcast, but for the wives and girlfriends of fantasy managers,

Speaker 10 and if there's anybody out there that is maybe like a wife of a guy that spends a lot of time on fantasy and he's annoying, and you want to start a podcast, I think Barstool Sports would probably be interested in producing that.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I might be in for that hypothetically.

Speaker 72 But you guys would like that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 follow me, but yeah.

Speaker 31 I just think we've hit critical mass with podcasts, you know.

Speaker 36 I just think it's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 60 BFFs, that's all about chicken fries, NDAs.

Speaker 23 Armchair talks about everybody's sober.

Speaker 72 It's good.

Speaker 1 It's healthy.

Speaker 70 Smartless, actors talking, laughing at each other.

Speaker 55 I mean, Rogan's got the Ivermectin.

Speaker 58 What would my lane? I don't even know what my lane would be.

Speaker 1 No, I don't. Yeah.

Speaker 70 Pod Saves America is Biden's all good?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 58 I don't even know what my lane would be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think that's it.

Speaker 55 All right, 49ers.

Speaker 8 Man, how funny that we dodged that Christian McCaffrey bullet.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We could have like.

Speaker 63 I almost had the first

Speaker 1 not won the championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But you know what?

Speaker 73 I got a problem with the Niners.

Speaker 22 And you know what?

Speaker 9 John Lynch, obviously, great at his job.

Speaker 69 They've been to two Super Bowls.

Speaker 79 Great at his job.

Speaker 60 What's going to happen with Brock Purdy?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Probably pay him money.

Speaker 23 I understand that.

Speaker 45 But is John Lynch going to John Lynch and not, is he not going to show up to camp?

Speaker 58 Like, remember the whole...

Speaker 52 Because I think that whole Brandon Ayuk thing tanked their seat.

Speaker 48 Set him on a bad path.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 17 What happens there? I don't know.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's an interesting question because you would. You would think that he would want to be paid more than Dak Prescott.
And Dak Prescott is the highest highest paid player in the league.

Speaker 10 But then now you've got all that cap committed to Brock. Your team's already making, you've got a lot of questions about who you keep around.

Speaker 10 And also, you kind of owe Brock Purdy because nobody talks about Trey Lance because of Brock Purdy

Speaker 10 and all of the picks you gave up to move up to get Trey.

Speaker 31 Yeah. It's funny.

Speaker 23 I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 79 Look, I'm always just pay the players.

Speaker 48 You end up paying them anyway.

Speaker 68 So why keep them out?

Speaker 23 But

Speaker 77 John Lynch plays hardball.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 9 so we're going to stay away from the Niners.

Speaker 23 Also, I got to say, I don't know if it's in my age range, but it makes me think of the early 80s, and I get the colors.

Speaker 8 It gets kind of depressed. I think of

Speaker 26 cigarettes and earthquakes, and just like, I don't know, they kind of depress me.

Speaker 23 It's always an afternoon game.

Speaker 1 All right, NFC North, Lions, all of them.

Speaker 24 The fact that Jamison Williams went so off weeks 16 and 17, it just opens up that entire offense.

Speaker 5 Just all of them.

Speaker 1 All of them.

Speaker 89 Every single one of them.

Speaker 60 I do think Coach Campbell should have not played any starters in week 17.

Speaker 26 I thought that was a big mistake.

Speaker 12 I thought it was a big mistake.

Speaker 9 I think it's why they're not playing in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 66 You know, it was so funny.

Speaker 64 I was thinking when Saquon watched Shipley score a touchdown on Sunday to see how pumped he got.

Speaker 9 Max,

Speaker 61 you still on? Max.

Speaker 2 I'm here. I'm here.
I'm here.

Speaker 70 To see how pumped he got.

Speaker 10 Jerry's like Max's dog. He gets separation anxiety.
He's like, Max, Max, Max.

Speaker 1 He can also, I'm right here.

Speaker 2 You can, you can see me.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's cute, though.

Speaker 10 You get afraid that Max left.

Speaker 44 I think it would have pumped the whole team up, and I think they would have performed better

Speaker 59 against

Speaker 48 in the postseason.

Speaker 66 You know, I think it has a lot to do.

Speaker 58 I'm not kidding.

Speaker 23 And this is part of my take.

Speaker 88 I got to have a take. Yep.

Speaker 80 I think a lot of it has to do with Copenhagen.

Speaker 24 I don't know if anyone has ever, I know we have like fans of Zen out there and stuff.

Speaker 89 Lucy. Lucy.

Speaker 16 Yeah. Lucy.

Speaker 47 Apologies. That's okay.

Speaker 1 Do you want one? No, no, no.

Speaker 53 Let me let me try that again.

Speaker 24 I think you should have one.

Speaker 26 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 59 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 56 I'm off the nail.

Speaker 5 You want a lip pillow?

Speaker 9 I know we're all fans of Lucy here.

Speaker 32 Yep.

Speaker 36 Do it again. Three, two, one.

Speaker 59 Like, you know, Mario is like a super professional.

Speaker 56 He does.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he takes.

Speaker 15 He goes like this. Well, he wouldn't fuck that up.

Speaker 45 3-2-1.

Speaker 79 I know we're all fans of Lucy here.

Speaker 15 And I got to say, because Coach Campbell is a Copenhagen guy, I think that's been established in the Knocks, right?

Speaker 23 And if you don't know, if you ever dipped, Copenhagen is like, it's the main line of chewing tobacco.

Speaker 27 It's not like strands.

Speaker 34 It's not like long.

Speaker 67 It's like fine bits that go right to, I mean, you're mainlining

Speaker 1 nicotine. Yeah.

Speaker 81 It's almost like drinking like dark black stellar blue coffee

Speaker 48 and throwing in a Lucy.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 57 That was

Speaker 57 good job.

Speaker 57 But

Speaker 45 I think because he's a Copenhagen guy, I think he's like, we're going to keep going.

Speaker 1 We're going to keep going. We're going to keep going.
No rest. All gas, no breaks.
All gas, no breaks.

Speaker 64 And you don't have a natural sense of like, take a, hey, fellas, let's take a break for a week.

Speaker 32 Yeah, take a beat.

Speaker 9 So

Speaker 9 I think that all gas, no breaks doesn't work.

Speaker 46 Vikings.

Speaker 27 What's going to happen there?

Speaker 45 Is JJ McCarthy going to be in good?

Speaker 1 I think he's going to be good. I think Kevin O'Connell will make sure he's good.
Okay.

Speaker 25 All right. I just,

Speaker 15 I just don't know. I mean,

Speaker 87 we'll wait till the preseason.

Speaker 30 Oh, Kirk Cousins maybe going there?

Speaker 1 Going back? I don't think so. I think it's going to be J.J.
McCarthy. Maybe I don't know what to do with Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 Packers.

Speaker 23 Oh, Big Cat. This is going to excite you.
Their receivers suck so bad. Yeah.

Speaker 20 Well, is it the receivers or is it Jordan Love?

Speaker 47 I think it's the receivers. I think it's the receivers.

Speaker 23 I don't think Jaden Reed and Christian Watson are doing it.

Speaker 75 I mean, Kraft is good.

Speaker 23 You know, we're just staying away.

Speaker 22 The Bears, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 You ready? Yeah. None of them.

Speaker 1 Are you ready? Yeah.

Speaker 77 How do you feel? Like

Speaker 67 when you're about to hear my, my take on, on your team?

Speaker 1 I think you're going to say none of them. So anything over none of them is a success.

Speaker 10 Six out of 10. Six out of 10 excited.

Speaker 1 Well, it's so funny.

Speaker 9 I did a couple drafts of this because the NFL is ever-changing, especially these days with hirings and everything.

Speaker 60 We were going to say none of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 32 That they were poison.

Speaker 1 That they expected that.

Speaker 26 They infected your team, Mr. Smith.

Speaker 69 They were the monkeypox of

Speaker 67 the human papilloma virus of fantasy.

Speaker 23 These are all fair.

Speaker 23 But now that your coach is Ben Johnson.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All of them. Oh.

Speaker 1 Everything. He fixed everything.
Turned around quick.

Speaker 24 Roma Dunze

Speaker 23 is going to be Jamison Williams 2.0. He's going to have two, he's going to have a rushing and passing, and he's going to have three touchdowns a game.
Okay.

Speaker 71 Okay.

Speaker 21 Let's talk about drafts.

Speaker 61 The person who should have won the Heisman, Ash Tengenti,

Speaker 16 is he going to be a good one. Oh, Travis Hunter had a pretty good season.

Speaker 1 I don't don't know if you could do should have. Travis Hunter won the Heisman.

Speaker 58 Is this...

Speaker 1 What is this show called?

Speaker 10 Part of my take? I'm going to have a take.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Ashton Richardson better. Should have won the Heisman.

Speaker 27 Is he going to be a bear?

Speaker 45 Possibly. If he is a bear, can you imagine

Speaker 1 all the things that I've said about him and having to interview him?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I've imagined.

Speaker 23 Can you imagine what Coach Johnson is going to do with Ashton Gentie?

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going to get freaky with it what happened with deandre swift this this season it was

Speaker 10 the offensive line but also he's he's not very good i don't think i think there's a there's a big difference between running behind the bears offensive line and running behind the eagles offensive line i think that's what that showed us yeah

Speaker 45 maxi

Speaker 37 uh nfc south falcons okay i have a question for you guys if

Speaker 23 By the way, I'm going to say it right now.

Speaker 85 I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager.

Speaker 15 I I have to set, I have to

Speaker 73 flip it off. I have to set boundaries.

Speaker 36 I won't work with someone else. All right.

Speaker 55 It's just the three of us.

Speaker 1 That makes our decision a lot easier.

Speaker 10 Do you not get along well with others?

Speaker 45 I just, I don't want to be stuck with Brick.

Speaker 60 Isn't that Woody Johnson's case?

Speaker 12 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 75 I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 10 I think if it's Brick, you should have to accept that.

Speaker 10 It's Brick.

Speaker 1 If we get Brick to do the, yeah.

Speaker 1 Hot flash.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's taking off.

Speaker 1 Do you still have have that weird tuft of hair in your back?

Speaker 1 It's getting hot in here. Yeah.
I just had a hot flash.

Speaker 15 You guys are making me go through menopause.

Speaker 36 I won't do it. I won't work with someone else.
It's the three of us.

Speaker 1 We'll take that into consideration.

Speaker 1 Go call fucking Mario Lopez.

Speaker 9 Go call the guys from Smartlist.

Speaker 1 I feel like Mario Lopez would be pretty damn good as a privacy manager.

Speaker 77 Go call Kelly Stafford.

Speaker 1 Go call my wife. Have them all.

Speaker 1 We want to. She doesn't follow us.

Speaker 1 NFC South.

Speaker 20 Oh, here's a question for you guys.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 56 I should probably start to wrap this up, right? This is going long.

Speaker 1 No, that's okay.

Speaker 57 Okay.

Speaker 89 Let's start with the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 1 If a quarterback,

Speaker 1 week 18 against the Panthers goes off, I'm talking two

Speaker 23 passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown goes off, looks amazing.

Speaker 91 Are we drafting him in the 2025 season?

Speaker 1 Talking about Michael Michael Fenix.

Speaker 10 I thought he looked pretty good.

Speaker 1 I would maybe hold off. Maybe a late-round backup guy.
He's not your fantasy starter. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 10 What'd you see from him?

Speaker 45 Just that. See, here's the thing.

Speaker 66 It was week 18.

Speaker 24 It's like the last taste in your mouth.

Speaker 79 So you're like, oh, this guy.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 26 I'm targeting him.

Speaker 8 No one else is watching this game.

Speaker 1 I don't think we should base our projections on week 18. Yeah.

Speaker 10 It's week 18. That's a pretty important fantasy week, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 31 Kyle Pitts is never going to happen.

Speaker 57 I like that.

Speaker 10 That's the best point that you've made. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Starting to come around. Yeah.
That's growth.

Speaker 1 Bucks.

Speaker 24 Man, Stephen Che is going to get so excited right now.

Speaker 9 He's getting some blood flow.

Speaker 71 All of them.

Speaker 1 Every single one of them. I like that.

Speaker 9 Baker Evans, Chris Godwin, before he got injured was like just

Speaker 66 having a record-breaking season.

Speaker 64 Bucky Irving, Cade,

Speaker 1 all of them.

Speaker 66 Oh, they have an offensive coordinator.

Speaker 64 Do they have an offensive coordinator yet?

Speaker 10 I think they're working on it.

Speaker 1 They're working on it.

Speaker 21 Is it that

Speaker 23 Grant guy from Minnesota?

Speaker 9 They're working on it.

Speaker 1 They're basically calling anyone who's talked to Kevin O'Connell or.

Speaker 70 Because if it's that Minnesota assistant, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 The Bucs are must-drafts, all of them.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 74 They're about to have a lot of fun.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, it might be that Marcus Brady guy, too, who was the passing coach at the Chargers.

Speaker 79 Whoever it is, they're going to have fun, all of them.

Speaker 80 Saints, none of them.

Speaker 48 Could you imagine a world where Alvin Kamara is actually on a team?

Speaker 25 Yeah, it'd be nice.

Speaker 58 I mean,

Speaker 42 what's his contract situation?

Speaker 77 Why is he there?

Speaker 10 I think they just, didn't they give him a two-year extension?

Speaker 57 It's just not happening.

Speaker 10 What do you think about Spencer Rattler?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
All right. Good.

Speaker 1 Good answer.

Speaker 9 Panthers.

Speaker 9 Wrapping this up, guys.

Speaker 42 Can you believe Adam Thielen is still doing it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's still doing it.

Speaker 31 He's out there doing it.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 15 oh, gosh, I know this has been a bad pronunciation.

Speaker 14 Chuba Hubbard, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah. No, it's Chuba.
Yeah. Chuba.
Yeah.

Speaker 69 Chuba Hubbard, not Chubba Hubbard, Chuba Hubbard.

Speaker 57 Chuba Hubbard is a must-draft.

Speaker 45 He just,

Speaker 1 he's

Speaker 9 next season, if I'm still your manager, not working with anyone else,

Speaker 24 I know in the past I've said, we're old school.

Speaker 89 We got to get some running backs in the first three rounds.

Speaker 51 We're going to wait till rounds four, five, and six to get our running backs.

Speaker 14 And Chuba falls right into that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 45 And my final take,

Speaker 15 I think Bryce Young is going to have a really good year.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 46 that's it, guys. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 we're like Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 We're going to need some time, but you're not allowed to interview anywhere.

Speaker 20 I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend, but it's a personal thing.

Speaker 31 Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're going to block all interviews, but we're going to need some time to figure this out.

Speaker 65 By the way, guys, I loved your take on that

Speaker 56 Jaguars

Speaker 84 hiring and saying, like, hey, man, anything goes.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's the NFL. There's

Speaker 24 there are no friends. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 Weird guy, though.

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Speaker 84 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 70 Been a long time coming that memes got his own poem.

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Speaker 45 But it's tough to compete with that TV setup you've got at home.

Speaker 1 It's got three TVs.

Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 41 Yes, all those TVs and stimulation could put people into sports media comas.

Speaker 101 Meemsy, memes, memesy.

Speaker 96 But we can say for certain Max won't be watching any college football with Tiffany Gomez.

Speaker 1 He blew it.

Speaker 41 Meemsy, meansy, memesy. Yes, the man has three TVs.

Speaker 96 His sports coverage one could not strengthen.

Speaker 101 Meansy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 20 But maybe on one of those TVs, Max could watch his favorite show, The Penguin.

Speaker 26 He loves that show.

Speaker 41 Meemsy, meansy, meansy. Yes, your shenanigans with Maxie are always such a hoot.

Speaker 101 Meansy, memesy, memesy.

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Speaker 1 Tootsies get cold.

Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 41 We love hearing your electric voice.

Speaker 9 Never do you ever sound gassed.

Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 9 Always bringing the energy for this national sports podcast.

Speaker 41 Memesy, memes, memesy, such an essential part of the show.

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Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

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Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

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Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

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Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 46 Speaking of things on PMT that we abruptly bid adieu to, memesy, memes,y memesy, whatever happened to that song, Electric Avenue?

Speaker 1 Nothing, guys? No explanation?

Speaker 86 You're not going to say anything, huh?

Speaker 90 Nothing. Just

Speaker 38 ignore it.

Speaker 1 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 41 We kid the staff here.

Speaker 76 We don't want to be a total hater.

Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy.

Speaker 41 We also don't want to set up alarms like you threatening to strap a bomb to your chest and go full al-Qaeda.

Speaker 1 You can't do that, memes. You can't do that.

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Speaker 96 Yes, it'd be fun to call call all the shots from the comfort of golf carts. Memesy, memesy, memesy, more fun than watching someone for a whole weekend just throw fucking darts.

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Speaker 41 Yes, we love to hear you and Maxie in the booth with all the back and forth needlings.

Speaker 46 Memesy, memesy, memesy, like what to do with Max and PFT's hair, but careful around PFT's brand new seedlings.

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Speaker 101 Memesy, memesy, memesy, for so much of this show, it is you that we have to thank, memesy, memesy, memesy, even if you're continually threatening to physically fight Max and Hank.

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Speaker 70 Perhaps that anger would abate with the presence of a girlfriend.

Speaker 78 Hope she likes TVs.

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Speaker 96 Pear and all the pets that we neuter and we spay.

Speaker 101 Meemsy, meemsy, memesy.

Speaker 13 But if you start dating that young lady chicken fry, don't ask her to sign an NDA.

Speaker 1 Don't do it. She doesn't like those.

Speaker 101 Meansy, meansy, meansy.

Speaker 41 We love hearing your optimism regarding the Jets, even in a season filled with strife.

Speaker 101 Meemsy, meansy, meansy.

Speaker 96 And I want to thank you for being the only one here who hasn't talked about jerking off to my my wife.

Speaker 1 Here, guys.

Speaker 41 So, meansy, meansy, meansy, we love you, your wit, and your delivery.

Speaker 20 That is oh, so very dry.

Speaker 101 Meansy, meansy, meansy.

Speaker 84 You will always be pardon my takes number one

Speaker 1 turtle guy.

Speaker 1 Love it. That's great, Jerry.
That was a beautiful poem.

Speaker 1 You're the best, Jerry. So you're the best.

Speaker 10 Me and Big Cat need to have some discussions offline. So put a pin in it.
We'll circle back.

Speaker 10 You've given us a lot to think about.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And, you know, I'll say this.

Speaker 1 No matter which way we go in terms of the fantasy team,

Speaker 1 I hope you feel the same way that we've enjoyed our time together.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I look back at it and think of nothing but positives.

Speaker 73 You tell me to grab my playbook and go see coaches?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. But I just want you to know that there's no hard feelings when it comes to fantasy football.

Speaker 66 I've got to thank my friends Richard and Ryan, who helped me write that poem.

Speaker 24 They're huge AWLs, Sony exec.

Speaker 1 Don't say word, word, please, please, please.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Richard and Ryan.

Speaker 74 We're big fans. I love you guys.

Speaker 9 Whatever you guys decide to do, I'll be okay with.

Speaker 19 You know, maybe

Speaker 24 BFS has a fantasy team that they want me to

Speaker 10 not win a championship with.

Speaker 1 Results. Results.
All right. Love you, Jerry.
You're the best. Third place.
Come on.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show. Guys on Chicks with a Wrinkle.
Guys on Chicks about getting old because

Speaker 1 this is the last episode you'll be listening to with us in our 30s. Yeah.
It's basically been, this show has been basically the entire decade of our 30s.

Speaker 10 I've been worried about turning 40 since I turned 30. And then I was so worried when I turned 39 that I feel like now I'm not.

Speaker 10 I'm already there.

Speaker 1 i uh i'm in a i i definitely like starting to feel it uh just like physically i think i have plantar fasciitis which sucks didn't even know

Speaker 1 my heel just hurts this is all self-diagnosed i'm not gonna see a doctor uh i think i'm just gonna get a shitload more tattoos yeah i think that's just kind of how i'm gonna deal with this i'm not gonna

Speaker 1 I don't really have any other outs.

Speaker 4 I was actually getting a little sentimental last night because I realized I've known you a little bit longer, but I met PFT for a birthday party for his 30th birthday. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 For 10 10 years. Yeah.

Speaker 4 On the dot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That is crazy.
Pounded mad dogs.

Speaker 10 Now we're drinking Belorde.

Speaker 4 We've said it on the show before.

Speaker 4 I have. I know I have.
And obviously, I'm 30 now. But I do remember Pitcat was going crazy hard for his 30th birthday.
I was like, damn, he's 30. He's still got it.
Like, he's old.

Speaker 4 Don't got it anymore. And now I'm older than that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, very funny because

Speaker 1 the first time Dave and PFT met, I think my words, I think I said, I was like, this is PFT. He's super talented.

Speaker 1 Like, he does the misspellings and, like, he's joking how you do misspellings and stuff, but you're serious. He's joking.
And Dave was just like, what? I don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 We got to do it for 50 now, too. What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Well, I'm saying now it's like every 10 years.

Speaker 1 Wait, but what are we doing for 40? Case race. Oh, yeah, case race.

Speaker 26 Shit. I've been

Speaker 10 taping this right before the case race. I've been pre-hungover for the case race since Monday.
Oh, me too. There's anxiety going into it.
I get real bad anxiety when I'm hungover. Very, very bad.

Speaker 10 Tripling now. I used to be able to, yeah, until I was 34, wake up the next day, feel okay.
Now it's like I have that hangover anxiety, but I had it on Monday for getting drunk on Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 I'm just happy the whole squad's in it. So Max, Hank, PFT, myself, you can watch the Yak case race on Friday.
It'll be out, but we're taping it after we do this. And yeah, I'm...

Speaker 1 I'm miserable already about just thinking about it. Although, I did find out,

Speaker 1 I have a steam shower. I've been living in my house for a year and a half.
Just figured this out.

Speaker 10 That's pretty cool. Pretty cool.

Speaker 1 So, I'm going to steam it up tomorrow morning. I'm going to hit the sauna.

Speaker 10 Yeah. It's going to be great.
I like, I pressed the buttons.

Speaker 1 I was like, does this do anything? And then steam just started coming out of my shower.

Speaker 10 I got a question for you guys. This is the richest shit ever.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I have this sick feature in my house.

Speaker 1 I didn't know for a year and a half.

Speaker 1 I got a glory.

Speaker 1 I got a worse one. When I moved into my house,

Speaker 1 my wife was like,

Speaker 1 Do you like our house? Like, any complaints? Like, I wish there was another bathroom on the first floor. And she's like, two's not enough.
And I was like, where's the second?

Speaker 1 She's like, you idiot.

Speaker 10 When I moved in, I was like, yeah, what's this hole in my wall in the shower for? I just found out last week. You can come through.

Speaker 1 It's pretty good.

Speaker 10 I got a question for the young kids, young kids on the show. So the booth, not you, Hank.

Speaker 1 You're old.

Speaker 10 What is Over the Hill?

Speaker 10 Is Over the Hill 40 or is it 50? Or is it 30 now that the internet, like everybody online is under the age of 20?

Speaker 2 I thought I was about to go over the hill.

Speaker 4 30 was an energy shift. 30 was like, I'm old now.

Speaker 4 It's impossible to even, you know, go through the motions as I did because I've, you know, been going through what feels like the same motion since I was, you know, 18, 19.

Speaker 4 Once you hit 30, it's like, I should be doing something else. Like, I'm over the hill.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I remember when I was growing,

Speaker 1 I think 40 was over the hill.

Speaker 10 And then I thought 50 might have been over the hill. But I think now now 40 at least, maybe 30.

Speaker 1 I think because I've thought about this way too much, and it's probably been. You're having kids changes things, though.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm like actually providing, and

Speaker 1 I have three things that are going to be my future, so it definitely changes my perspective. But

Speaker 1 I've been thinking about it because I obviously get in my own head where I'm like, you know, someday people are just going to stop. listening to us, but I love doing the show.
I want to do it forever.

Speaker 1 I think what I've come to grips with is PFT, you can follow me here. I think for the next, I think we still got it for about four or five years.

Speaker 1 Then I think it's going to be a tough couple years where people just shit on us. And then I think in our late 40s, we're going to get funny again by saying stupid shit and forgetting it.

Speaker 1 And people are like, but man,

Speaker 1 they're so funny because they're so old and dumb.

Speaker 10 We're going to speed run the League Corsoar. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Right. I think that will be our late 40s.
And also, I get in my own head. Like, we obviously have listeners listeners of all ages, and I appreciate all of them, but it is crazy to think about.

Speaker 1 Like, we've been doing this for so long. Like, people have just gotten older with us.

Speaker 10 I think one thing that we forget sometimes is when we started doing the show, it wasn't just people that were younger than us that listen. Yeah, right.
There's a lot of people that are older than us.

Speaker 1 But they also all, like, if you were 25 when you started listening to this, you're 34 now. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, that's that's a little comforting. Like, people have grown up with us.

Speaker 10 I just like the idea of a 70-year-old out there when we turn 45 listening and be like, these guys are so out of touch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I still feel young. I just 40 is definitely, it's more the fact that I don't think I'm going to live much past 70, 75.

Speaker 4 So I'm past halfway.

Speaker 10 That's, I guess, what over the hill. That's what's fucking up.
That's what over the hill means.

Speaker 1 That's what's fucking me up. Yeah.
Where it's like, I do the math and I'm like, oh,

Speaker 1 I'm on the 11th hole.

Speaker 1 Can somebody.

Speaker 1 That's where I'm getting a little fucked up.

Speaker 10 Can someone explain to me, give me something to look for?

Speaker 10 What are some things that you get better at after you turn 40?

Speaker 1 I think the number one thing is giving less of a fuck. That's the number one thing with age that is so much better where it's like,

Speaker 1 but it's like, I don't care. I got kids.
I got a good life. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 Playing bingo. Okay.

Speaker 10 That's a good one. Thanks, Max.

Speaker 1 Where are you going? Wait, wait, wait. What did you say, memes?

Speaker 35 Don't you guys have to get your finger up your ass now?

Speaker 1 Memes actually is rooting for us to die.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. No.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 10 I think that, yeah, the prostate check.

Speaker 1 I think they got technology now where they can just do like a laser.

Speaker 10 Stick a laser up your ass?

Speaker 1 No, I think they just shoot a laser at your body, and they're like, you're good or you're bad. I also old school.

Speaker 2 That the nine is worse than the actual, like turning 29, turning 39. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Than the actual. Well, if it's anything like turning 30, turning 30, I was scared about.
And then as soon as I was 30 or 31, I was like, I'm young again.

Speaker 1 Because everyone is in their late 30s and I'm in my early 30s.

Speaker 2 Since I've turned 30, or since I've turned 29, I've just been like, oh, I'm 30. Yeah.
But like, once I was 28, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 20s.

Speaker 2 But then once you turn 29, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 30s. And then once you actually turn 30, it's like, oh, yeah, I've been in this mindset for a year.
Yep. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 10 It hits, and you're like, it's exactly the same.

Speaker 41 But we're going to, yeah, I think we're going to, I think it's going to suck for like a week, and then we're like, you know what?

Speaker 10 Fuck it.

Speaker 1 And also, you can

Speaker 1 just be like, I can't go out. I'm not going out tonight.
I'm not getting drunk. I'm 40.
I'm old. Yeah.

Speaker 1 i still feel like i'm like

Speaker 1 we're gonna get a young we're gonna need a young buck i was thinking maybe i i know i said 16 or 17 on sunday's show i'm thinking more like 13.

Speaker 1 adopt a child

Speaker 1 let's adopt a child for you some 13 year old takes all right

Speaker 4 Is being a football fan better when you get older, or was it better when you were younger? Obviously, you have gambling now, but you had so much time to potentially win a Super Bowl as a kid.

Speaker 4 Is your team winning a Super Bowl window the male equivalent of a woman going through menopause or her eggs drying up? Help me out here. I just turned 27.

Speaker 1 27 is the perfect age, by the way.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think we talked about this once before. 27 is a perfect age.
If you're a kid, if you're like 10 years old, winning titles, it's like, that's the center. That's all you care about.

Speaker 10 Like, Hank, you were saying that when you were a kid, all you cared about was baseball, right? That's got to be sweet if you're a kid. If you're...

Speaker 10 Like in your 20s, you can party, you can celebrate.

Speaker 10 You can like quit your job, essentially, if your team wins a Super Bowl because you're like, I'd kind of like to just get drunk for a month and celebrate.

Speaker 10 In your 30s, I don't think it would be as fun.

Speaker 1 I think the kids thing then comes back in. Yeah.
Where like if you can, if you have kids and you can share it with them, that's cool, too.

Speaker 4 Someone who won a dynasty as a kid and a dynasty as an adult,

Speaker 4 I would have to say the adult one was.

Speaker 1 You were on Joe Missoula's duckboat. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, no, I'm talking strictly dynasty. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 That was pretty cool.

Speaker 10 You've got two dynasties. You're in different dynasty erases.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm not sure what to do with the menu. All I care about was baseball.

Speaker 4 The Red Sox had the greatest comeback in

Speaker 1 history.

Speaker 1 You've got to win a Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's fun, too.

Speaker 1 You got to win a Super Bowl. It's tough.
It's a tough question.

Speaker 10 I also think that if you're like 95, then it becomes great again. Well, because they might do a news story on you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then you cry.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max, you've got to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 High school senior, end of senior year, Bruins won a Stanley Cup. Unforgettable.
Love the Bruins.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 What's going to change about you if you win a Super Bowl this year? You're not winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I'll be a winner. Yeah, like, are you you going to, like, we won't be able to make fun of you the same way? I know.

Speaker 2 It'll be great. It'll be awesome.
It'll be the best, but it's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 God.

Speaker 2 It's just the same.

Speaker 1 I just want to flash forward to Sunday.

Speaker 2 If I get another, I can't get another second place.

Speaker 10 Are you going to let Hank just dump on you like this?

Speaker 1 Hank's got a future on the birds. And I know

Speaker 4 it's a donation.

Speaker 2 It was a one and a half point spread. That's what I just keep telling myself.
Then cash out, Hank. It's a one and a half point spread.

Speaker 1 Cash out and and bet the Chiefs. No, fuck that.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I want the Birds, but I just know. Like, I just know.

Speaker 10 Max, I know you've daydreamed about what's going to happen after the Super Bowl if you win and how happy you're going to be. Have you thought about the place you would be at if you lose?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm very familiar with that place. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 It's not like it's going to be

Speaker 2 something that I can't imagine. I'm there.
I'm there like every

Speaker 2 18 months.

Speaker 2 So, yes, I have thought about it, and I know exactly what it's going to feel like, and it's not going to be good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Why is it that as I get older and get into my first real job working around adults, they care more about what I do with my outside life than when I was in college?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I thought as you get older, people care less about drama and petty things, but it's the total opposite.

Speaker 1 No, it's vicarious.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, the less you go out and have a social life, then you just spend your time talking about other people.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and they also get to lie about what they used to do when they were younger. So they hear you be like, oh, yeah, I went out and I partied on Friday night.

Speaker 10 They're like, yeah, I used to, you know, start Friday night in Sunday night, sometimes some beers Monday morning, going into work.

Speaker 10 They like to just exaggerate how much action they had when they were your age.

Speaker 1 Stanford Steve and Russillo had a very funny conversation about this, about how they would like go for the show when they were doing it with SVP, and SVP would always

Speaker 1 go back to the hotel and they would go out and then SVP the next day would just be like, tell me everything that happened. And I remember listening to that and being like, oh man.
And I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 I'm the go to the hotel and then just be like, give me all the stuff.

Speaker 4 You don't really care, though.

Speaker 1 No, I don't care as much.

Speaker 4 Like, you're not nosy or like.

Speaker 1 No, I just want to go to bed. Yeah.
More than that.

Speaker 4 You're not gossipy.

Speaker 1 No, because it's like I also can't keep track of anything. I always find out the gossip in the office.
Absolutely the last person. Like the last person.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure the cleaning ladies find out the gossip before me.

Speaker 4 At what age did you realize that you couldn't physically do the things you could do in your athletic prime?

Speaker 4 Because it feels like every time I throw a ball of any kind, I'm on the verge of throwing my arm out.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 4 I'm like approaching my athletic prime.

Speaker 1 Are you? Yeah.

Speaker 10 I thought your athletic prime was like 27.

Speaker 1 Maybe yours. I don't think it's like...
There's nothing. I mean, obviously, there's a lot of shit I can't do.

Speaker 1 When I do throw, yeah, that's definitely one where it's like, if you throw...

Speaker 1 Like, we had a mound out there for opening day last year, and I threw as hard as I could, like, four times, and I thought my arm was going to fall off.

Speaker 1 I think for me, it's more, I notice it when we play pickup hoops on Friday and I just stand at the three-point line. I'm just like, I don't really want to go down low and get elbowed and bang around.

Speaker 1 That's a big one.

Speaker 4 I think this is more frontal lobe or whatever it's called, but the skiing for me, like I used to like skiing, but I,

Speaker 4 when I was a kid and younger and young adult, I, I had a very, I have a very reckless ski style where I just bomb down the hill, not a great stopper.

Speaker 1 And it was always like, just go straight and eventually you'll get a, you you know you'll slow down but speed was never a concern now when i even think about skiing i'm like oh like i don't i don't want to do that yeah but i know how i ski and how i've like always skied yeah but it's like you can't you can't be scared if you're gonna do it like that here's the big one the big part of getting old i've noticed for athletic stuff is you're just way more conscious of getting injured yeah and you're scared yeah that's what you're explaining right now like i am so scared of getting injured because an injury at 40 versus an injury at 25 is so vastly different yeah so it's at this age, you collect injuries.

Speaker 10 So if you get injured, that's going to be something that you deal with for pretty much the rest of your life. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Where you break a leg and you're like, well, now my leg is never going to work the same ever. Whereas if you get injured when you're 25, yeah, give me a month.
I'll be back.

Speaker 1 I still hold out hope that someday I'm just going to, when I'm not working as much, maybe like start doing yoga and just get like just really flexible.

Speaker 4 Yoga's fucking impossible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the real answer. I want to go to that stretch lab place if you go.

Speaker 1 Would they just stretch you? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 My real answer to that question, though, was when I first had my back injury, when your back hurts for the first time, that's when you know way past your athletic prime. Kidney stones, too.

Speaker 10 Yeah, kidney stones too.

Speaker 1 Kidney stones is an old guy thing. Yeah.

Speaker 10 When I was doing the kicking thing at the barstool bowl, and all I had to do was make a 35-yard field goal, and I was training for it.

Speaker 10 I was kicking like 36 yards, and two years ago, I was kicking 45 yards. At that point, I was like, it's never coming back.

Speaker 1 Also, I'll say it,

Speaker 1 just standing up for a really long time is just like,

Speaker 1 I want to sit.

Speaker 4 I took 40,000 steps during the dart stream. That was the one thing I didn't mention.

Speaker 1 Wow. Thanks for mentioning it.
Beast.

Speaker 4 Also, almost threw my arm out.

Speaker 1 So I guess that's a sign to maybe athletic peak.

Speaker 10 What about the comments from the people calling you a pussy for saying that your arm hurt after throwing darts for 10 hours?

Speaker 4 Throw darts for 10 hours, tell me how your arm feels, and then if you still feel like I'm a pussy, I will accept it.

Speaker 46 Until then, I'm going to defend the chat

Speaker 1 in this case, just that every time I watch someone else do something hard, I'm like, that's so easy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your brain just says that. Like, someone does like an eating challenge.
I'm like, I could fucking do that. And I know that watching.

Speaker 4 Like, if you sit and watch someone for two hours,

Speaker 4 you do nothing. But if you're standing and doing something for two hours, like, it takes a ton of time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like when Jerry did this,

Speaker 1 when Jerry did his first hole in one stream, I was like, how is he so sore?

Speaker 1 Swing a club 2,000 times and find out. But in your head, you're just like, this looks so easy.

Speaker 4 Hey, big cat PFT Hank in America's team max.

Speaker 4 Someone who recently graduated college, how do I figure out what will be my career? When will I know? Also, how come as soon as I finished college, hangovers instantly became so much worse?

Speaker 4 Thanks for all that you guys do. I'd love to throw my hat in the ring for your next intern.

Speaker 1 Looks like he wants a career. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Get ready, buddy, because the hangovers are going to get worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, I think that's a very personal question, depending on who you are. Like, how will you know when your job is the one that you want?

Speaker 10 I think if you just, if you enjoy it, if you truly like it, if you like thinking about it when you're not working there, that's that's probably a pretty good sign.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my only advice for someone like that is

Speaker 1 you have

Speaker 1 more time to figure it out than you think because I think there's a lot of pressure always when you graduate college, especially because there's going to be a couple of your friends that go right into some high-paying job or

Speaker 1 crushing it and you're like, fuck, I'm behind.

Speaker 1 You can switch jobs and try something new and do different things.

Speaker 1 You have time to fuck up.

Speaker 1 Not like fuck up, fuck up, but like you have time to do something for a couple of years and be like, you know what, this isn't for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might have to take a step back, but that's where the time comes in.

Speaker 1 Like taking a step back when you're in your 20s is not as hard as taking a step back when you're in your 30s or 40s and you have kids and a family and a house and all that shit.

Speaker 10 Yeah, don't think because you're 25 years old that you have to be on the path for the rest of of your life.

Speaker 1 Pretty much you don't already figure it out until you have kids. Because then you have to think about them more than you think about yourself.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 Would Robert De Niro say in heat? Never get so attached to something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds or less. That's how you should feel about your job until you're like 27.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Robert De Niro, look at him. He's still having kids.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 And she had a great ass.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Why is it so far away?

Speaker 2 From the stream yesterday.

Speaker 1 Ah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I got it.
No, no, I got it.

Speaker 10 He can still do this, Hank.

Speaker 1 I got it. Yeah, you're trying to fucking that was an old man movie.

Speaker 10 Yeah, let me get that for you, sir.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Numbers. Three.
Eleven.

Speaker 10 99. Poke.

Speaker 1 40.

Speaker 10 92.

Speaker 1 What did you guess last time, memes?

Speaker 49 Three.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 35 You guessed something else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess three. Was it 11?

Speaker 35 Who guessed 11?

Speaker 16 I always guess 11.

Speaker 1 59 for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 49 44.

Speaker 1 Take your time.

Speaker 1 54.

Speaker 1 Fuck that.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. Is that the Super Bowl you won, Max?

Speaker 1 No. What was that?

Speaker 2 Did the Patriots won 54?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 10 Love you guys.