Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Jerry O'Connell in studio. He's on the hot seat.
We're going to find out if he can be our fantasy GM or manager, no, coach. He's our coach.
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For right now.

Great time with Jerry in studio.

We're going to talk a little introductory press conference around the NFL.

Maybe a little early thoughts on the Super Bowl where Max's head is at.

We have hot seat, cool throne.

And then we're going to do guys on chicks, questions about getting old

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We got a Super Bowl to look forward to.

How's everyone feeling?

Sean McDermott still has his job.

I don't think he should be fired now that the dust has been settled.

No, I don't think he should be fired.

But that has been the discourse.

He's a very, very good coach.

But you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs

and how much those losses just stay with the man. Yeah.
Andy Reid. You know what happened to him? He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.
He was fired. He fired him.
Then he went to Kansas City, and now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Yeah.
How are you feeling, PFT? I know obviously Sunday sucked for you. Yeah.
I think Monday probably sucked as well. When I woke up on Monday, I felt better just from the second I opened my eyes and i i posted a meme about it and i think it captures the moment perfectly it's two the two guys on the bus meme yep one is really pissed off doom and gloom the other guy's super happy the guy that's pissed off is losing a close game the guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked yeah so getting your ass kicked is better in those situations i think think, than being like, oh, you know, we were one play away.
Oh, yeah. I said it to you right after the game.
I was like, you know, I felt bad for you. Like, it sucked to watch that.
And I was like, the only spin zone is if it were a Bills situation or, you know, like a weird call or penalty or like a dropped ball, a Mark Andrews, those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks and weeks and weeks. This one, it's like, yeah, you got your ass kicked.
Yeah, I'm still not happy about the result of the game, and I'm also not doing the thing where I'm just constantly pointing at, we'll be back. Look at this team.
That's the worst team Jaden's ever going to have you never know yeah weird things happen in the nfl all the time so i i've also realized and this is my fault for not realizing before the game that was the post lions week yeah and every team gets their ass kicked post lines so the eagles didn't really even beat us the lions we just had delayed onset getting beaten by the lions so the lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship yeah exactly yeah i mean it happened with the vikings too the vikings beat the lions last game of the season lose to the rams no the lions beat the vikings but they played and then they end up losing afterwards yeah so congratulations to the lions for beating us yeah yeah they they actually won that game yeah but you know it it's not a good feeling Next week would be so much more fun if my team was in it. Yeah, I would say so.
I'm doing okay. Max? Yeah, I'm on the Kansas City.
But I'm back on being mad at the media because now everyone's just saying, oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback. Oh, who said that? Now it's back.
Yeah, it sounds like there's another addition to the list. Oh, yeah, big-time list.
Oh, Colin Coward said that the Eagles might not get in the red zone because the Chiefs' defense is so good. That's a mega list.
By the way, I've done some – we'll do a full preview next week. But our good friend Roan, I told him because we were talking about – he was saying, like, you know, the Chiefs' defense is really – the Chiefs' defense is a little overrated.
I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to dig into some numbers for you, but I'm going to say it.
That's what I'm talking about. I need that boots on the ground.
Their rush defense has not been, like, incredible in the back half. Now, the problem is for the Chiefs, for you and the Chiefs, is their offense has gotten a lot better.
Like, I don't think – I think their defense is a little worse than people – I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average.
And I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average.
So it's still Patrick Mahomes. Does that make sense? That's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into.
But I think their defense is a little bit worse, but their offense is a little bit better. Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Cowherd on your list because that's what he wanted to have happen.
He said that so guys like you would be like, Colin Cowherd, let's talk about him. Yeah, you fell for it.
Yeah, you fell for it. I don't care.
Mega list. I did get tagged in a stat that you got upset about before I even said it.
You were like, I'm done with your fucking stats. Your last big stat was that no quarterback.
That's not a stat. That was a curse.
It was a potential curse. It was a 25-year curse.
That's not a stat, dude. That's a curse.
There's a big difference. Max, for the record, you do not believe in 25-plus-year curses.
I don't know where this – I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to – Smart man. Yep.
All right. Ryan Hannibal did tweet, and tagged in this max it's not my fault that the awls tagged me in this they said something to note ahead of the super bowl eagles defensive coordinator vic fangio has faced patrick mahomes eight times six with denver twice with miami his teams are oh and eight and mahomes has thrown two ten tds and two interceptions of those games now those prime mahomes well also those denver and mi Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do.
Denver was pretty good. I mean, they weren't.
The Eagles defense is very good. But yeah, is that a stat worth jumping down my throat? I'm not worried about trends.
That's no trend. I got a trend, Big Cat.
No team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985. Whoa.
But Max doesn't care about trends. But it's an extra game.
I also have a trend. He doesn't care about it.
I also have a trend every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl on this podcast, the Eagles have lost. Not a trend.
Incorrect. Incorrect.
We beat them in the regular season last year. I said in the Super Bowl.
Yeah, you said in the Super Bowl. Correct.
I missed that. I love it.
I love that you're on edge. That was a little boy ass play game when the Eagles beat the Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah. Sirianni doing the tunnel thing, and then it all fell apart.
No, it was Travis Kelsey, little boy ass play. Oh.
Yeah. Yeah, but wasn't that the game when Sirianni was in the tunnel after? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Being like, how do you like us now? And then they lost every game after. Yep.
Nick Sirianni, good coach. Have we got any media requests for Max during the week of the Super Bowl? Zero media requests.
Oh, come on. Come on, people.
I'll also say that Max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on Radio Row as well. And get two guests for the price of one.
Yeah. That was not a weight joke.
That was just two teams. Yeah.
Big Ed, I have a question for you because there's a take that is riling people up online. Okay.
Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had two defenders from the Kansas City Chiefs in his face? Are you talking about Khalil Shakir? Yeah, yeah. He was running the little merry-go-round play in the backfield.
Yeah. I don't – now, I didn't play in the NFL.
It felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do. But I actually think Ben Solick is good at his job, and I like his film analysis.
He – holy shit, was that an overreaction for people who missed it. He basically broke down the play and was like josh allen had khalil shakir open on the back side but if you watch the play it's like that's he had a chief in his face not if you simply flip your hips yeah you gotta flip your hips to make the throw but so made he did make the throw yeah he did make a good he made an incredible he made the play happen yeah that's the real story is don Kincaid, I feel like, is getting left off a little bit too easy

just because it's easier to be like,

Josh Allen can't beat Patrick Mahomes.

Oh, he should have flipped his hips to the left.

I personally would have thrown it even deeper for a touchdown.

Yeah, the touchdown was open on that play.

But so Ben Sulek did a film breakdown, and then it was almost like –

it was essentially the anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight, and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL, linemen, quarterbacks. And then Ryan Leaf showed up and everyone was like, ah, dude, maybe this isn't cool anymore.
He wrote, quote treating Ben Solick, he said, this right here is why in full transparency you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass.
You work at ESPN. Call Alex.
Call Dan. Call Timmy H.
Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had. I'm serious, though.
Someone go rough this kid up. See if he throws the orbit.
I love it. That was like it was basically because it was everyone.
And all these people I respect, and I think Ben probably did minimize how easy or how difficult of a throw that was. But it's also like you're having a discussion about a game.
Like, that's the whole point of Twitter. You talk about the game.
You break down the game. But it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Fitzy was nice to him. Yeah, Fitzy was nice to him.
He's like, I love your passion, which is actually the meanest thing you can say but he was a horrible take he said it like it was about the proper harvard man that he was that's fitzy's version of saying somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass but uh the correct take was that the bills didn't slide their protection correctly because spags was doing one blitz all game and then he and then he flipped it on him yeah i think there were two things working against ben solak and yeah he is good at what he does but number one he used the dots his initial take used the the overhead use the dots they use the overhead dots and the overhead i don't know who likes watching the dots it's all the like film nerd people you don't you don't like football if you like watching the dots yeah or maybe maybe you can but i can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is nobody's hitting each other there's nothing cool that happens you get a little animated football that glides across the field what's your favorite album of all time big cat probably uh oh probably third eye blind self titled okay third eye blinds if you hadn't heard it i was under pressure i was under pressure i was gonna maybe go sublime sublime i was also maybe gonna go good choices the band self-titled fuck okay let's say that was hard let's say let's say uh prince purple rain okay you've never heard it right yeah sublime sublime okay sublime sublime you've never heard the battle ballot of johnny butt you Way. You've never heard Caress Me Down.
I come up to you and I'm like, Big Cat, I think you're going to love this album. And then I hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read.
Yeah. That's what looking at the dots is for football.
You can't appreciate how sick it actually is. So use the dots.
That's strike one. And then strike two, his profile pic that he had was a bat signal for football jocks.
Yeah. to point at him and say, this is everything that's wrong with the film dorks that are sitting at home.
They're in their big comfy chairs and they've never had a guy in their face before. Yeah.
So I think every film nerd should have to, on video, let a guy just get right in their face. Yeah.
Like have a guy come in their face. Yep.
Like not, you know, like physically. Yeah, physically.
Impose their will on him. In his face.
And then show that you can break down film while a guy is in your face. Also just maybe grow a mustache.
That helps too. That always helps.
The funny thing is, Kurt Warner, ever heard of him? Super Bowl MVP. MVP of the league.
He actually kind of agreed with Ben. not that Shakir was there, but more that the discussion should not be like, oh, where should he have thrown it? It should have been how did the Bills not get the right protection and have a plan for that type of blitz.
And again, Hank's right. Josh Allen made the throw.
Dalton Kincaid, I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands.
What do you always say, Hank? If you can touch it, you can catch it. Yep.
Touch it, you can catch it. I do feel bad for Bills fans because that's how we started the show.
You were able to bounce back, relatively speaking, because of the ass kicking. Bills fans are going to spend the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and every yeah it i i was lucky enough to get to go home on sunday and not have to force myself to spend the next 48 hours drawing photoshopped lines onto the screen to show where the ball is where the first down line is and then and then replying to every popular tweet using my photoshopped lines and demonstrating that the nfl was wrong yeah but you have to do you're a Bulls fan.
And again, it comes down to the Chiefs are so well coached and they make big plays. Because I was also watching.
So it was that Spaggs blitz, which was an incredible blitz, perfectly timed. And this is what the Chiefs do.
They just make big plays. The other one, which I didn't notice obviously in real time, but the Mahomes designed run for the touchdown to go up seven.
It was very cool because they basically ran. It looked exactly like a run going left, and all the bills crashed left.
I think they pulled a guard, and then Mahomes just went right. And it's like I think it was Rousseau said they had not run that play all year.
The Chiefs had not run that play all year. I think Mahomes had one designed run all year, and he's like, we watched all the film.
That never showed up. That's coaching.
That's Andy Reid being like, we're in a game against a team that we know it's going to come down to one possession. We got to throw a few things at them that they've never seen before.
And that's what they did, and that's why the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl and Mahomes is going for a three-peat. Spin zone for Bills fans.

The last time I remember this much breakdown of one fourth down slash first down slash

referees getting involved and the spot might be incorrect, it was the Michigan-Ohio State

game right before Michigan went on its win streak against Ohio State.

Yeah.

Right?

Well, there's a little bit of bottoming out.

But then, yeah.

But then, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But then they were back. Yeah, yeah.
Then they were back big time. We also might get a microchip now.
Yeah, so the microchip, I love the chain gang. I love the sticks.
I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines sometimes. That's always fun, too.
But I like the idea. I love it if there's a close play.
stop the clock real quick the chain gang comes out onto the field there's that moment of anticipation then you either get the first down or you don't get the first down it's like another play that's built in that you get to cheer for or be pissed off about i like the chain gang but i can see why the microchip crowd can be like we can measure this better but again it comes down to and and whatever throw that play throw throw the throw the refs out of that it came down to i saw the stat that the the chiefs i think that was the most stuffed runs on a qb keeper on a qb sneak like in a lot of years three times they stuffed it why were you running that three times especially in a play that by design you don't know where the ball is you the ref can't tell where the ball is it's a 50-50 call for the ref and you're leaving that up to it in on a play that you aren't able to get those yards that's where I was I said it on Sunday night like go ahead and blame the refs if you want to that was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the Chiefs that just didn't feel smart. I think if you can't see the ball, then you get the microchip involved.
Yeah. I just like talking about microchips.
And I also like whenever someone's like, we're able to do this, but not this. We can get on the moon, but we can't do a microchip.
Those are my favorite arguments. So the microchip would exist in the middle of the ball, right? So how would you know? I thought, and this is maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it.
I thought they would wrap it in a microchip. The ball would be made out of microchip? Kind of.
And shiny on the outside? Yeah, that would be one of those like the tin foil and then they heat it up and it envelopes it. If you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pigskin, he's going to try to eat it.
Yeah. So be on the lookout for that.
But there should be a way, if you can't see the ball, maybe go to the microchip. But I love the chain gang.
I do too. It's one of the things about football that's just, it's tradition and you shouldn't try to, don't make the NFL into the NBA.
Yeah yeah don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not that we all hate and and the chiefs made a couple more plays than the bills made yeah that's that's what it came down to going back to the beginning of the show if uh this exact scenario had happened to washington and they were in buffalo situation would you be saying the same thing about the mic no way i would that's not how i would be i fans work, Hank. I would be pulling a memes at the NFL front office right now.
Yeah. I would be in New York and- And ready for the microchip.
If that happened to the Bears, I'd be writing letters to Congress. I would never turn 40 if that happened.
Yeah, and I would be writing letters to Congress and self-funding microchip data. Yeah.
I'd go broke trying to get microchip, but my only rule for getting the microchips in the balls would be we have to replay that game yeah i would move to taiwan and start my my own semiconductor company i mean i if if that happened if if that if i were a bills fan i would probably i'd probably just walk around with a picture of the of the of the spot and the ball that was beneficial to me.

And I would just be, it would be like showing a picture of your kids or your dog.

She'd be like, you want to see this?

Did you see what happened?

Years later, I'd be like, did you guys see this?

Remember that movie Celtic Pride?

I would kidnap Roger Goodell and I would tattoo that image onto his body

so he had to look at it every single day.

I'd clockwork orange him.

I'd open up his eyeballs and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over severance make him apologize into a screen yeah a thousand times to your future self roger yeah uh but yeah stop complaining bills fans well no you can't no i'm just kidding i'm joking keep complaining definitely keep complaining keep posting the screenshots don't give that up i think it's more i think bills fans keep complaining. Keep complaining.
Keep posting the screenshots. Don't give that up.
I think it's more, I think Bills fans keep complaining. I think non, like if you don't have a dog in the fight, Bills or Chiefs, fucking move on and stop saying the NFL's rigged.
Again, you pointed out, the NFL's rigged. Just bet everything on the Chiefs.
It's rigged. If it's rigged, if you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the Chiefs on every single year.
I love the people that discover for the first time that the NFL has argued in court that they're an entertainment company, not a sports company. And then that proved that it's 100% rigged, which if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff to work with.
They give you a ton to work with. But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not one ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and was like, no, that looks like it's two inches short.
We need Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl again. There was a lot of takes flying, but I did appreciate one person saying, I'm going to give you too bad, Big Cat.
I kind of give you a pass because it's your job. But at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt.
It would be a big statement for all of Barstool Sports to take a stand here and boycott. Boycott the Super Bowl.
I'll say this loud and clear. I'm always going to watch the Super Bowl.
It's the last football game of the year, and anyone who says they're not going to watch the Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar. You're just a liar.
you're going to watch the Super Bowl you might not talk about the Super Bowl you might complain about the Super Bowl you're gonna fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday they literally named a Sunday after it and you're gonna open your eyes and you're gonna watch that fucking game you know what I think we should make a stand who was it that said that um tram 2022 tram 2022 is right as a company noted noted paul watcher as a company tram i think that we should all boycott the pro bowl games okay we've done this i think four or five years in a row yeah i'm gonna i'm ready to do it i'm doing it this year for tram yeah i'm not gonna watch okay i'll stand with you are they gonna do the one where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw? I won't watch. I might watch that, but the rest of it, I'm out.
I won't watch at least some part of the Pro Bowl games. Okay.
Yeah. That feels right.
That feels right. We'll show them.
Yeah. Okay.
We should talk about some coach introductions. So, Liam Cohn.
Whoa, that guy's weird. I kind of like him.
I mean, I like him in the fact that, like, I can't look away. When he did the Duval and he did the double eyebrow raise.
Yeah. I talked to Jerry O'Connell about that.
We were hanging out in the gambling cave. He's like, so that Jaguars coach, that was AI, right? It looked like AI.
He was like, now that we're off the air, can you tell me? That was AI. Yeah.
No, that's him. That's Liam Cohn.
And it's rare that you see one thing from an introductory press conference and you just know what it's going to be like after every single Jaguars loss. Yeah.
Where that is going to be the only thing that you see on social media. Negative aura.
That's going to be the one thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cohn until I see him do something even weirder. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, shots, explosives, Adam Gase's eyes.
There's a lot of things that if you do your first press conference, if you say it, or your first introduction to the world, Dave Kanellis' book. Yeah.
There's just a lot of things.

And did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up, Max, of him talking about honesty is the best policy? That was very funny. Yeah.
Because I said on Sunday, I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could have handled it better, but I think football is like everyone's got to look out for themselves.
but it's just very like insanely unselfaware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you lied to the entire Bucks organization here it is and that's that's really what is going to come down to is honesty I want to surround ourselves with people that are going to be able to tell you hard truths be be able to show you your blind spots, because that's really, like I mentioned, where growth occurs, when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror, knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right, and the results will speak for themselves. I kind of love the idea, though, of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach.
Yeah. Just a guy that's actually a snake.
A guy that's dirty. Like the perfect Florida man.
I want him to go to a pawn shop with Brian Thomas Jr., try to get 90 bucks for him. Yeah.
I want him to get paid in scratch-off tickets. I want him to do a video with the viral Jags woman.
Yeah. They need to do that.
He also dropped an acronym. That's always a no-no in the NFL.
I feel like that's just maybe a college. College acronyms kind of work, but his acronym is FAST, and it stands for Fundamentally Sound Attacking Situational Masters Tough.
Situational Masters is a good one. Oh, man.
I mean, my acronym point, I mean, Matt Eberflus had an acronym, and it was the HITS principle, and the T in HITS standed for the ball. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
That was on the wall. Situational masters.
I want to know what that means. Why could it be situational football? Just situational awareness? Situational Masters.
Because they want to be masters of situations. Fundamentally sound.
Yeah, like just be fundamental attacking situational football tough. Yeah.
That sounds better than situational masters and fundamentally sound. Tough ball, then it would be S-A-F-T-B.
Yeah. Can you you pull up that i want to see him explain the the acronym the jaguars posted it and listen i will i will say this in defense of the jaguars uh when dan campbell did his introductory press conference people laughed at it yeah people said that was crazy they said he was a meatball he's an idiot like they're going to win any games.
He turns out to be... Max, is he a winning coach? A winning coach? I wasn't paying attention.
Dan Campbell, winning coach? Yes. Okay.
He turns out to be a winning coach. You can't fully base every...
It's like one of those every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach,

but every bad coach probably had a poor press conference.

Really bad.

I remember when Jim Zorn was introduced as the coach of the Redskins,

he was promoted from being the offensive coordinator

before he ever coached a game as the OC.

He was promoted to head coach.

In his introductory press conference, he said,

I can't wait to represent the maroon and black of the Washington Redskins,

which are not the colors of the team.

And so from that point on, you just were like,

I don't really trust this guy 100%.

Thank you. wait to represent the maroon and black of the washington redskins which are not the colors yeah of the team and so from that point on you just were like i don't really trust this guy 100 but with dan campbell yes he's kind of overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference but the first thing that people bring up usually with dan campbell is like yeah you know this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps yeah they still talk it became a positive yeah yeah Yeah, but it was, it it was laughed at for sure uh okay this is this is liam cohen's acronym it takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great offense defense and special teams how do we want to play the game And that's fast, sound attacking situational masters and tough both mentally and physically you see players in the room right here guys that i've had conversations with already it will always be about you so he's not the worst speaker i think it's just that his his face was put on incorrect he sounds like he's trying to do a presidential campaign.
No, he sounds like he's giving a TED Talk about coaching a football team. Yeah.
If you play that back and think about a guy on stage in a leather jacket with one of those microphones that attaches to his chin, and now listen to him, this is a TED Talk. It's also just crazy because all you had to say was, we want our players to play fast.
Yeah. You don't have to do an acronym for it.
Fast is good. Fast is fast.
Well, the faster you are, the faster you're out of position if you're not a situational master. That's true.
Good point. Yeah, think about TED Talk.
It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams.
How do we want to play the game? And that's fast. This guy's looking for funding.
This is South by Southwest. They're going to be like, hey, we're going to do a presentation on football.
Yeah. Okay.
First, we're going to bring out – Elon's going to host this panel about football guys. Yeah.
Well, I mean, listen. I'll say this.
It works for the Jags just because it's kind of a hilarious just visual and everything. And he could end up being a head coach.
But if you were a Bucs fan that was upset, feelings hurt, crying, being a baby, Stephen Che, you should watch this and be like, we're okay. Yeah, you feel good.
You feel good. But I hope it worksars yeah i do too uh max i have a question for you about the birds yep rumors on the street are that kellen moore might be the next coach of the saints how do you feel about that will the saints get a coach i don't know he interviewed for that a while ago it is alarming that they haven't hired somebody new yet i was hoping hoping that Mike McCarty...
What?

Alarming.

Yeah.

I didn't even know they did a second interview with him.

Yeah.

They flew into Philly.

Yeah, they went there.

Kind of a thirsty move by the Saints. No, it's...

I mean, we lose our coordinator.

Jalen Hurst has had eight different coordinators since he's been in the league.

And I feel like he's only been in the league for like five years.

So, that would suck. But, you know, you got to worry about winning right now.
That's the only thing that matters. Are you worried that he's going to be doing interviews instead of getting prepped for the kids? He just did his interview.
He just did his second interview. No more interviews.
He could have been using that time for the Chiefs. Do you think that maybe Sirianni is looking at Kellen Moore doing all these interviews, and he's like, you know what? Maybe I should take a more hands-on approach.
Maybe I could call a few players for the Super Bowl. No, but anti-stat for you, Vangio guy.
Vangio. Vangio.
Oh, that's a new – if we get a new van. Yeah, it sounds like a – Vic Vangio is actually a great van name.
Last year, Dolphins faced Mahomes. They lost that game, but the Chiefs only scored 14 points, and Mahomes threw for 180 yards in that game.
Okay. Anti-stat.
Most recent time he played. I never said anything about the stat.
No, you just got anti-stat. No, but the stat I said is still correct.
I know, but, you know, context. I'm adding more context to your stat.
Context stat. Okay.
I was looking up. During that whole Bills talk, I was looking up anti-stat.
So what were the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means in – so if we just went to seven games, he's 0-7, 10 touchdowns, two interceptions. No, there was a couple others, but that was the best.
That was the most recent one, so that's why I used that one. You just got Vangio'd.
I got Vangio'd. What were we talking about before this? You guys get turned on by just looking at Vangio? It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to because you know that you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block, and then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you.
Yeah. There was a clip.
It'll be pacing around the room while you're gone. You're like, Max, here's a stat.
Like, all right, hold that thought. I'll be back in 30 minutes.
And when you come back, he's like, all right, I found it. There was another clip that was going around Eagles Twitter.
It was like Chris Canty. He got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen Hurts and his producer like stepped in in the middle of it and corrected him and like awful announcing was like, wow, one of the craziest things I've ever seen on ESPN, someone's producer coming in and correcting those.
Damn. Imagine like that producer was definitely a Birds fan, by the way.

I think he was just like, I had Jalen Hurts top 10 before the year,

and his producer was like, yeah, but you also said he was not top 10 during the year.

I was like, this is my guy.

Yeah, that's a Birds fan.

But the fact that Alfa announced he was like,

I've never seen anything like this.

A producer.

A producer.

No way.

Max, is Brandon Graham going to play in the Super Bowl?

He's active.

Wow. And what about Cam Juergens and Landon Dickerson? Schefter said that they have a real good chance of playing.
Oh. Real good.
Okay. Do you like that you're wearing green? Not you.
Oh, my God. He's already rattled.
Like, you're already in Super Bowl mode where you're fighting stats.

I just, for the podcast listener, I said,

do you like that you're wearing green?

And Max looked down at his own shirt.

I meant the uniforms in the Super Bowl, dude.

Yeah, memes brought that up.

It's okay.

Okay.

Yeah, that's not good. All right, put that on a quote card.

It's okay.

Max's thoughts on the Eagles wearing green. It's okay.
Yeah, memes keep saying it's 21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street, meaning it's the same movie. Oh, no.
And I just keep saying it's Rocky 1, Rocky 2. Mm-hmm.
All right. But I don't know about – I don't think they wore the same stuff, the same trunks in both of those movies.
I don't think they're – But you guys are wearing the same trunks. You're wearing white.
We are wearing the same trunks. I don't think in Rocky 1, Rocky 2 they're wearing the same trunks.
Okay. Yeah, they're wearing green that they wore, the same green they wore in the last Super Bowl, correct? I believe that was.
Yeah, same exact uniform matchup. Okay.
Other coach hiring news. The Cowboys brought in Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference.
We also had Jerry Jones talk more about glory holes. He said there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory holes.
Very low percentage. Talking about just the business.
He clarified himself when he repeated very low percentage of the glory holes. is the second time that jerry jones has brought up glory holes maybe even third uh i think he believes that a glory hole is a super bowl window to him it's the same thing yeah so when he's like i want to get back to the glory hole days i want me some glory hole in his eyes he's talking about being a championship team but you don't make that mistake unless you're a man that has used a glory hole or two.
Okay, let me see. He might also just be talking about an oil well.
Yeah, he could be. So I'm looking at it.
On Wikipedia, it says a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition, often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side. They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral sex.
Trying to find if there's any. No, glory holes go back all the way to 1707.
Yeah. The trials of Thomas Vaughn and Thomas Davis.
The two Toms going at it in the glory hole. Is that where Peeping Tom came from? Maybe.
Yeah. So is it anything? Let's see.
In popular culture, no. So, yeah, is it anything let's see in popular culture no so yeah is it is it an oil well

well in his mind it might be like that is a glory hole oh uh yeah holehunter.com i'm not

gonna click on that one you just go up you stick your deck in oh yeah miners would use it's gonna

be for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold, oil, or whatever natural resource you're looking for. There we go.
That's it. That's what he's talking about.
He's talking about oil, guys. No one has told him that glory hole means anything else.
He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up. Yeah.
Also, Stephen Jones is getting kind of lambasted because he did a press conference. Well, he's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones.
He's going to be the perfect Jones heir to have the Cowboys not have any success as well. But he was talking about the drought, the 30-year drought, Super Bowl and championship game drought, and he did air quotes.
Yeah, it's just quotes. It's just like, dude, it is a drought.
The media has been obsessed with this so-called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls. Right.
The drought. But it's one of those, it's a bad stat.
Got to find the glory hole. It's a misleading stat.
We've won several off seasons. The funniest part of this press conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer, and the whole crowd clapped for him.
It was very nice, very positive. And then the loudspeaker introduced Stephen Jones, the executive vice president, and nobody clapped at all.
And then one guy started clapping, and then three other guys kind of clapped, and they pretend to laugh. Oh.
You know, they're just busting my balls. They really love me up here.
That's nice. Yeah.
The Cowboys are a fun watch of just— I mean, it's just so funny that they just didn't do a coach church well they did and they when they talked to pete carroll he called pete carroll to get his opinion on brian schottenheimer as their coach and then they said we also briefly talked about the possibility that he could coach but it was just it was a fact-finding call yeah so pete carroll was probably very confused about that. He's like, what is going on here? Am I applying or no? Yeah, probably not.
Yeah. So, all right, do we have anything else before we do hot seat, cool throne? We're just not going to talk about the fact that Cardi B has pierced her butt crack? No.
Okay. I mean, no, I didn't know that happened.
Yes, I want to talk about it. Yeah, she announced that on X.com, the Everything app yesterday.
So, dot, dot, dot, I got my butt crack pierced. Okay.
Your thoughts. How? How? Well, then she said, do I lie and post a picture of it right here.
So she got the top of it. Oh, I see how.
That's actually cute. I think that's cute.
Wiping has got to be tough. Yeah.
Yeah.

She's got to fuck the back.

Like, I didn't want to think about this with Cardi B, but here I am.

It does.

Okay.

All right. So she got her butt crack.

She should have just done.

So I did a thing then.

Yeah.

Some personal news.

And there's a picture of her asshole.

Not rush war punishment.

Butt crack piercing. I'm i'm in stink about it you say stink about it stink about it uh we also just had a crazy uh college basketball monday night with the duke player puking which is nuts i've never seen that much puke on a basketball court yeah and there And there's so many towels.
And then Caleb Love, who is not good at basketball,

but then hit a 60-footer to be good at basketball.

He was one for 11 from three and then hit a 60-footer to go to overtime and win the game.

He's got those games.

Yeah.

He's – yeah.

What was the – it was like he puked and then a fan passed out.

What's going on in Cameron? From seeing the puke? I don't know. It's hot.
I guess it's hot in there, yeah. It is hot in there.
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HOTSEAT, Cool Throne.

Hank.

My hot seat is Heat Culture.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely.

It seems like they're going to trade him.

How many times is that?

Is this second, third suspension this year?

Well, yeah, he's been trying to force his way out.

Yeah.

And they've just been playing hardball.

That doesn't sound like J-Bot.

But it sounds like the Heat, Pat Riley, he had the bigger dick.

He ended up on top.

Sixers?

Shouldn't the guy with the bigger dick end up on bottom? He'd be on top. On top? That's painful.
Sixers? There is a rumor out there. Oh, no.
I don't want him. I mean, he's old, and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer.
Can't even win. Won one Eastern Conference Finals.
Two. I think the older is the bigger part of the equation.
I think the older piece is the bigger part of the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler and his prime you would love to have him on your team if you're the Sixers.
Can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team you'd never let him go. True.
Kevin Love also has been just putting on a meme clinic throughout this entire process. I don't know what, like, he just switched the flip and was like, fuck it, I'm just going to...
I love it. I'm just going to get my way out through memes.
Yeah, I love it. Very, very funny.
What about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation? Phoenix is the favor right now to land him. But Bradley Beal has no trade clause.
And although, like, yes, you have no trade clause. You negotiate that for a reason, but come on, Bradley Beal.
Is there any, like, if you're a GM or you're KD or you're Devin Booker, is there any part of you that's like, hey, instead of trying to get Bradley Beal or Jimmy Butler, why don't we get, like, five really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys? It's so weird to me whenever it's like, what's the problem with our team? Let's add another alpha that needs the ball. I also love that Matt Eshbia last year was like, I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward.
And now he's trying to do the same thing. Jimmy Butler, yeah.
Just add another name that we all know. They're basically doing the strategy that i do every year with fantasy football where it's like uh i think yeah tony gonzalez i i drafted tony gonzalez like seven years after he was good that guy was awesome yeah i see his name the warriors of the other team warriors are a mess i mean a mess in that they are not going to probably make the playoffs and i don't know what like steph is let's steph be free he probably doesn't want to Maybe he just wants to be a one-Jersey playoffs.
And I don't know what, like, Steph is – let Steph be free. He probably doesn't even want to.
Maybe he just wants to be a run-Jersey guy. But I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before he retires.
It does feel like this is the end of that era. Oh, yeah, definitely.
Like, officially – can you imagine J-Butt on that team, like, trying to get along with Draymond Green? No. No.
And I don't even think like this is why this revisionist history. Just fucking just re-signed Clay and just gotten like you have to pick a lane.
Like just maybe just get old together. Yeah.
And just be like, all right, it was fun, but everyone got to stay together. I don't know.
I mean, it's not working. Yeah, but they need we're going to have to pay so much.
No, I know. It's stupid.
I just feel like if you know you're not going to win again, just go nostalgia. Yeah, it's not.
But have they had any chance of winning again, not paying any bad contract? Yeah, no, I agree. I agree.
It was a dumb thought. I was just thinking of nostalgia.
I know what you're saying, though, which is if the team's not competitive, you might as well just kind of keep everybody around and together and then let them all win. Maybe one day they'll all retire at the same time.
Or maybe they win one 37 year olds you're like oh that was cool yeah it's a dumb thought i understand it's a dumb thought really stupid i mean a dumb ownership ship group would certainly do something like that yeah but a smart ownership group would not correct okay cool thrown i i mean this is where it's like i i think i say this every time but then'm saying it right now. I'm talking about it, bringing it up on the show.
So I have, you know. I don't know where this is going.
Do you have any idea where this is going? You fall into the trap again? Are you going to talk about the Gooners side again? Nope. I never talked about that once.
My Cool Throne is the Paul Brothers. Yeah, that's a good one.
And yes, everything you kind of said, I don't really know. Didn't really fully go through, but yes, I agree.
I know what you were saying, and I agree. I don't think it was.
I should have said it first. The Paul Brothers and the Cool Throne, I say this every time.
Yes. I don't want to watch it.
I know it's going to be rigged. It's going to be bullshit.
People are going to walk away disappointed, yet here I am. Correct.
Talking about it probably will i definitely will watch and we already i already have max the streaming app right yeah so it's no additional money max raised his hand i do have i have multiple maxes memes make the i fell for it again award although it's a guy wearing a celtics hat and all the all the medals on his chest are for tuning in to jake pa yeah they need they need to be like a knockout like the purse needs to be like five dollars five dollars if either one gets a knockout a hundred million yeah yeah agreed who do you got Jake look Logan's bigger Jake's bigger I thought Logan was taller. But Jake's beefier.
It's Jake. Is it boxing? Jake is the better boxer.
Jake has been training boxing more consistently. Logan's done the wrestling, and he's done the faker fights.
I mean, we're talking about this. Right.
Is it a boxing match, or is it MMA? What is it? It's boxing. It also might all be a work because the wording of it is kind of weird.
Yeah, imagine they come out and just play rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Logan is 6'2", 205, and Jake is 6'1", 227.
All right, yeah, so Jake. And they have the same exact reach, so Jake.
Also, this time of year, have your alert, your intent up high because anything that you see that that stirs your interest pretty good chance it's a super bowl commercial yep very good point this one has a date but march 27th yeah still but still all right okay good job hank good job hank uh my hot seat is saying it with your chest. So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday.

Our good friend Peter Schrager on that show.

Love Peter.

Kyle Brandt, friend of the program.

We like Kyle Brandt.

He went on a little rant about the Chiefs and the Bills and the reaction to the game and how there were all these people out there saying everybody wanted the Bills to do it for America.

But let's not turn this into the Chiefs or some evil empire out there saying uh everybody wanted the bills to do it for america but let's not turn this into the chiefs or some evil empire out there that is easy to root for and it's us against them and we don't want them to win no matter what kyle brand also on sunday put out a hype video for the game i saw that yeah where he was literally rocky as fan. Yeah.
And Drago from Rocky 4 were the Chiefs. Yeah.
The evil empire was literally the USSR. Yeah.
Where was Drago from? Russia. He was from Russia.
Yeah, USSR. And so he turned to now he's saying like don't act like you gotta root against the Chiefs and they're literally an evil empire.
Yeah. And you've got to take down Big Red.
You just did that. Yeah.
You just did that, Kyle. Yeah, he made the hype video.
It was a very well done video. And I understand that, like, Kyle, he's not technically a Bills fan.
He's like a – Yeah, yeah. You know, he's a hype guy for the Bills.
Yeah. But still, like, you were actually doing that thing.
Yeah, you were rooting for the Bills. And also, let people root against the Chiefs if they want to.
I couldn't agree more. And I also, I don't care if you want to say, I'm rooting for greatness.
If you're not a Chiefs fan, you're like, I'm rooting for greatness. I respect greatness.
That's cool by me. If you're just like, I hate the Chiefs.
I fucking hate them. It's rigged.
I don't like them. I hate Patrick Mahomes.
That's cool by me, too. Everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root.
Yeah, if you want to root against the Chiefs because you think they are Satan, do it. Do it, please.
And Chiefs fans, don't get offended either. You're winning.
You shouldn't worry what other people think about your team when you're winning. I think Kyle tried to do the neat little pivot from Bill's super fan to hey, Chiefs, I love you guys.
Yeah. And that's a hard move to pull off.
Yeah. No, I mean, the Chiefs discourse, like, I just don't – if you hate the Chiefs, you just hate the Chiefs.
Now, to be fair, maybe it was a bit because I was listening to it. I wasn't watching.
Maybe they were playing in the background, the Rocky montage that he did. That would be a bit.
Yep. In which case, hand up, I got it wrong.
But if it it's not then now i feel like it's a different kind of bit yeah i'm i'll put my hand right up right now i'm not cashing out of my future with the eagles i will be rooting against the chiefs in the super bowl but i also respect these greatness but i'm i'm telling you right now i'm rooting against the chiefs i respect greatness unlike big cat are you going to be rooting for the chiefs i think i have to to. I mean, if I didn't have this future, I would be betting the Chiefs.
I never wanted to root for the Eagles in that first Super Bowl. Big Cat had literally $200,000.
Yeah, that was a big one. I didn't want to be sitting next to him rooting for him to lose $200,000.
I appreciate that. So I bet eight grand on him.
Lost that. Lost the doink bet to Hank.
I was getting rods from all angles again that week.

Just bet Mahomes.

I did it last year.

Chiefs fans, obviously, are like, you always root against us.

I bet on the Chiefs against the Texans.

I bet on the Chiefs a very big bet against them in the Super Bowl last year.

Remember we were sitting in the gambling cave?

I think it was you, Dave, a couple other people were on the 49ers.

And I was just sitting there like, I got Mahomes. This is going to be easy.
They're going to win. I might have to go back to the no doinks will.
Get my revenge on that. What I would say if I didn't.
$50,000 on no doinks at minus $500,000. What does that pay out? Probably a lot.
Elliott's been so shaky. Yeah, Elliott has been shaky.
You were gassing Elliott up last week. I know, because Coach Green told him I had to.

PFT, I'll say this. If I weren't, yeah, if I didn't

have this Eagles future, I'd probably just run back

what I did last year because it was

a very calming

Super Bowl watch of being

like, oh, but Mahomes. Yeah, he's got me.

We're just sitting there watching. Yeah, but

Mahomes is going to be fine. He'll figure it out.

It's going to be in the fourth quarter, and you'll be like, oh, yeah, one team has Mahomes. NFL rigged.
I think I'm just going to go with the rigged. Yeah, do it.
Why not? It's a decent watch. Betting on Undertaker at WrestleMania.
Yeah, I'm one and one in the last two Chiefs Super Bowls. But wait, Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans.
Yes, I was there. I was there.
Oh, Max, that's good for you Max that's great stat that's great stat okay was he in your cool throne my cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago this is also a fire fest but I'm getting to it ahead of time so I get home on Sunday uh i sent my laundry out this weekend because i ran out of clothes i had jumpsuits i had to watch etc etc two giant giant duffel bags of clothes i get home they had dropped it off on my porch somebody stole all my clothes imagine yeah being that burglar and opening it up and being like what the fuck yeah not to brag but i think i have a pretty uh a takis medium jumpsuit yeah so some burglar went up to my house they probably were thinking i'm gonna get some good clothes they stole these two huge fucking bags of clothes got them in their car they're driving away like i made out like a bandit let's open this up. There's probably going to be Gucci in there.
There's going to be Dolce & Gabbana. They unzip it and they see six different Darius Rucker themed Washington Commander shirts.
It's basically like robbing a bank and having the ink blow up. The ink blew up on all the jumpsuits that you had.
They actually did you a favor if it was a lot of jumpsuits. Just clean out for Jumpsuit January.
There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen. So now I don't really have any clothes.
I went out, I bought a bunch of socks. There's a loss and frown at my kid's school.
We could get you a new wardrobe tomorrow. You got any propeller beanies I can put on? Elementary school but i now i'm looking at this and i'm thinking this could be this could be a good opportunity i'm turning 40 don't change could be time to start dressing like an adult i'll be so mad at you if you change you have a style i was thinking about maybe getting some of the tiktok girls to give me fashion makeover i think you should dress like high like luxury like joe burrow like i turn into joe burrow now all right i could be down with that i don't want you scum to just absolute like yeah yeah i could be down for that but i don't want you to just be like i dress i dress plain hank dress dress plain you're you you gotta be the one max memes we all fucking wear the same hoodies we need the guy who comes in and is like hey you guys see this jumpsuit it's got croissants all over it.
This to me feels like a great opportunity, though, to turn a page. It's like the universe telling me maybe it's time to stop wearing F-15 onesies.
No. But I would be supportive if you wanted to do a full assless suit.
Yeah, turn it into super, super fashion. Was the one jumpsuit that you looked like a bunny rabbit? Was that in there? It was.
Yeah, they stole my pocket. That was Chris's story.
He had a Chris's story one. That's the one I was really hoping is just right on top.
The first thing he sees. That's what's made me not be that pissed off about it.
It sucks to lose all your clothes, obviously, but I can get over it. Yeah.
You might return it. I have.

Well, the first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood

anticipating that they opened it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their

window.

Yeah.

They were like, fuck this.

That's so funny.

So, yeah.

Maybe I'll just do the fashion.

I think I might try the fashion makeover.

That's so funny.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

I would love to get. Listen, if you're an AWL and you're listening to this and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits and commander's gear, no penalty, no crime will be committed.
We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag. Maybe just return it so we know it's you with a a long note yeah just saying like i when i opened this bag i was disgusted and i made me change my whole life and realized i need to get on the street and narrow yeah maybe they learned a lesson crime doesn't pay that's so funny um all right my hot seats i got two one is uh jayla milro and hand sizes being back because Jalen Milrow has insanely small hands.

What are they? Eight and three-fourths inches. To put it into perspective, it would be the smallest hands of any first-round quarterback ever taken.
And in 2022, only one starting NFL QB had his hand size under nine inches, and it was Taysom Hill. yeah not good especially because Jalen

Milrow also does things like

throw interceptions and not throw to the open guys. Yeah.
Not be able to throw. That's a very small hand.
I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that. Yeah.
Yeah. No, Hank's got tiny hands.
Yeah, little hands. Little guy.
Tiny little nubs. I have big hands.
Oh, actually, I have three hot seats. What? But do you see when Josh Allen fumbled that ball and just picked it up off the ground, just palmed it.
That was a pig snag. Yeah, like a vacuum cleaner.
It was a snarf. Hands mean something.
Yeah. Actually, no, I'll switch one to a cool tour.
So my other hot seat is Archie Miller. Archie Miller, head coach of the University of Rhode Island.
Andre the Giant. Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference? Now, I have to defend Archie Miller in the fact that I also get caught a lot.
But Archie Miller was doing a press conference after a game talking about what's the toughest league in the country. You want to play the press conference? Here you go.
was his quote today like you know the sec is the best league in the country but you know in all games they're like 54 and 54 somebody said that i don't know if that's even accurate but like do you know how hard it is in every league you know to to to win you know it's just hard to win any game so the the problem with that is Archie Miller is quoting –

I've got to find the guy's account.

I apologize to him.

I'll shout him out.

Does he have it there?

Shout out that guy.

He tweeted something that was – it was basically joking.

He was just saying, oh, the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country.

Well, why are they 54-54 since January 4th? Obviously a joke because it's all conference play, and then Archie Miller went and took that stat and used it in a press conference. Yeah, because there are some bad teams that are at the bottom, and when you lose to a good team, the good team gets a win, but you get a loss.
It's just very funny to be like, I saw somewhere it's 54 and 54, and so that must – that's crazy. Yeah, the NFL was 500 this year.
Yeah. As a league.
The league is down. It's not getting done.
For anyone who says the league is down, there it is. The league is down.
Technically, how many games gets – is it always finish? Oh, no, no. Well, I'm stupid.
There's one win. Yeah, the Super Bowl.
No, I'm an idiot. I was like, oh, yeah, but the Super Bowl is a standalone game.
Yep. I'm a moron.
I just Archie Millard myself. But, yeah, shout out the guy who got him got.
I guess you could say one conference ends up with a slightly better record. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, that will always happen.
Wasn't that the Stephen Shea thing? He did a prediction for the whole league. No, but he did it wrong.
He was off by like 10. Yeah, he was off by like 10.
Because his predictions weren't game by game. They were just, I think that this team is going to win their division with 13 wins.

This team's going to have 10.

This team's going to have 10.

This team's going to have nine.

No, but he did the whole like data thing.

Yeah.

But that's impossible.

I went game by game, but it was impossible.

Oh, I found the tweet.

Jacob Pickle.

Great.

Jacob Pickle.

Shout out Jacob Pickle. He said, wow, the best conference in the history of college basketball is 54 and 54 since january 4th espn once again showing their sec bias for some teams that can't even get above 500 that's great and then archie miller went used it good job jacob pickle shout out pickle 07.
Also great username there.

My cool throne.

I have two.

One is our guy tailgate Ted.

So he actually hit us up PFT and was like, thank you guys for the shout out.

And he has a, if you go online, he has, he's trying to raise money for lung cancer, lung cancer, a researcher.

Yeah.

Research.

So shout out tailgate Ted. If you can donate to the goundMe.
It feels like he's handled it all very well. Like he was obviously made fun of on the internet a little bit, lost a big game.
He's turning it all into a positive. Seems like a genuinely good dude, and you always have the hard rock.
The hard rock, dude. The hard rock.
When all else fails, like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin. Put your picture up on the wall, the Hard Rock.

Tailgate 10 will just get back to Hard Rock, and he'll just be around his people.

He does seem like a good guy.

He also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an internet flashpoint,

there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say.

He's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it.

Yeah, no, it's going to be a while.

With these future statements.

It's going to last for a little bit.

Yeah, so everyone, his Twitter username is Tailgate Ted and he's got the links there. So shout out to him.
And then my cool throne is Max and the Philadelphia 76ers for not posting about the Eagles. Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seat or cool around.
That makes sense. Josh Harris.
Well, not really. Not really.
Every other team in Philadelphia posted about the game. The Sixers went radio sign.
Kind of a salty move by Josh Harris. The Sixers are Philadelphia.
You have to separate those two. And also, what would...
Does Philadelphia own the Sixers or does Josh Josh Harris? Well, I mean the people kind of – There's another thing. It's their team.
Jeffrey Lurie wants to buy the Celtics. Yeah, everyone wants to buy the Celtics.
But Hank, what would it hurt Josh Harris for the Sixers to just be like, good job Eagles on their Twitter account? That's one of those moves like you just have to just ignore it because if you don't, it's a Streisand effect. You're not going to – they don't post it, and then everyone's like, you're a salty, petty bitch.
Maybe he is. He probably is, which I'm fine with that, but just, dude, who cares? Just fucking let him post it.
If they had posted it, we would also talk about that on the show. I don't think so.
No way. I don't think anyone notices those posts.
Max would definitely be like, your owner just congratulated the birds. There's no way I would have noticed that.
Yeah, you would. Yeah, you would.
The only reason is because people were going to all of the – every other team in Philly posted about it. The Water Dogs posted it.
Shout out to Water Dogs. Shout out to Water Dogs.
Yeah, you're an owner of the Water Dogs. Wow.
How about that? Bigger man than Josh Harris. That is true.
Bigger man than Josh Harris. Way to go than Josh Harris Way to go, Max That's how you fight back I didn't even think about that when I said that I decided to put my business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team I'm just more like there's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own Is Josh Harris even on Twitter?, I don't think so.
A lot of people are saying Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently. They point at what's happening with the commanders, and they say he doesn't care about the Sixers, all this stuff.
Feels like that's not— Well, the Sixers suck, although the Sixers did just beat the Cavs. It is crazy when you own multiple teams.
I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time, where if

one of them's not good, everyone's like, why aren't you

making that team good? Yeah, because they're like,

we're not your priority anymore.

There's no way...

By not posting it, you're just like,

oh, he's bothered.

That's my only point.

The commanders are

to Josh Harris, that's Baron. The Sixers are like Eric.
And then the Devils are like Don Jr. If you want to put it in Trump terms.
Yeah. Yeah.
You got that? Sure. I don't know.
I don't understand what. Also, I only found out about this because Max came up to me.
He's like, you see Josh Harris didn't post this? Yeah. Well, yeah, it was Matt.
Yeah. So you actually care about like, now I'm back on PFT's side because like you can't actually be like, why the fuck having the Sixers posted? Well, no, no, no.
I didn't know about it until other people were talking about it. And then, although realistically, I think it's probably like the social media manager who was like, I'm just not going to gonna post about this because I don't know if my ball yeah there's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris's desk I I assume that's probably what it was yeah yeah I don't want my boss mad at me correct yeah and honestly like fair play to both sides because if he had posted that from the Sixers then I would have been like what the fuck dude like his his fans.C.
would be mad, or his fans in Philly would be mad if he doesn't post it.

You know what he should have done?

He should have just posted from the Sixers account, good season commanders, you just

ran into a better team.

Like, compliment the commanders and be like, but the Eagles are a better team.

Like, this shit happens.

That's what sports are.

The NFC East, once again, representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Congrats.

NFC Beast.

Yep.

NFC Beast.

NFC Beast.

They have not – because usually teams will get bullied into this.

They have not updated it.

Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl?

They got to, right?

If they win?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They got to.

Also, the real – If they lose and they post something

that'd be very funny that yeah now that would be funny yeah they're like oh so close great season guys nothing to be ashamed of so close basically like you didn't win a playoff game yeah if you don't win the whole thing all right let's get to uh i guess it falls on our shoulders now let's get to JOC

we got our exit interview

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All right. It is Jerry O'Connell in studio.
There's no one that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I texted him, I was like, hey, we want to have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything.
He just said, okay, what day works? And I was expecting it to be Zoom. And he's like, all right, I'm going to land in Chicago at 7 a.m.
Then I'm going to fly back out at 3 o'clock. That's what you do for us.
Yeah. You came in.
You have the briefcase. Oh, yeah.
What's the flight schedule today? Flight schedule was I flew out last night at 11 p.m. Okay.
Landed five something. Okay.
Went to. It's great.
They're a partner. Went to Planet Fitness.
You should have just come here to our new gym. I should have.
Yeah. We have a Planet Fitness right here.
Yeah. I would have come here.
It's just hank is like all oiled up and stuff and yeah like waiting on the squat rack and um you got to go in the locker room with him and he's like you want to do steam and you're like no man yeah and he's like watching you and then uh i didn't bring shower shoes there's no way i'm going in that shower barefoot yeah yeah um so i just went to my man. You went to your PF.
Yeah. And then you went and got a breakfast.
Yeah, I got a breakfast around the corner. And then when do you fly back? I fly back today at 3 p.m.
There it is. My daughters have volleyball practice tonight, and I've got to go watch them not start and not play well and act like I'm involved.
Now, that's a nice quick John out here. Did you stop at any apartments that you've been looking at? Because Jerry always sends us apartments, usually on Chicago's Gold Coast.
He's like, hey, look what you can buy here. It's so funny.
My algorithm is so crazy. By the way, shout out to all the algorithms out there.
They've really got it out shout out the algorithms um red note my algorithm is um well i mean first and foremost it's usually like big tits yeah no my doll i've actually i don't know if you do this but i uh because the algorithm always works and if you click on it if, if you watch the video, they'll give you more of that. So I always make sure that I watch the big tits.
So now it's pretty much only big tits. Yeah, it is just it is a little it gets a little awkward because I have, you know, two teenage kids and a wife.
And if you say anything like, oh, hey, look at this text that so-and-so sent and it's

instagram that usually comes up and i'm always like whoa what is this yeah i'm not following them what is this oh shout out the algorithm zuckerberg um but uh it's that um a lot of it lately has been josh crossing an imaginary first down line on that fourth down play I don't know if it heard me talking about it it's in my thoughts I mean I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it I've just been thinking about it a lot because I live at home with my wife and daughters and I'm the only one who watches football so I have no one one to talk to about it. So I haven't even been like saying anything out loud.
It's just, it's been feeding me that. And finally, what it gives me is a moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area.
There are great deals. Yeah.
I must've clicked on one and sent it to you guys. And now it's my thing.
Oh, also have um other algorithms like uh i have a giants friend and anytime there's a giants meme or anything uh you know a lot of stuff with daniel jones wearing his helmet on backwards i don't know if you saw that one where his helmet is like i sent him that jets me i have a few jets friends that i send jets memes to and And I mean, we should talk more

and I could send you some Commander's memes

and some Bear's memes.

Yeah, that'd be great.

You have free reign to send any text.

You know, it's funny.

I don't send you guys many sports memes

because I'm sure by the time I've seen it,

it's been sent to you 1 million times.

So I try not to waste your time.

I do have a texting relationship with both of you, and I don't try to abuse it. I try to send you interesting things.
And you also have a texting relationship now with Max, Memes, and Pug. You got the whole, you basically asked for all the numbers, and you've been texting with, I almost just threw you into the part of my take group text.
No, haven't quite then we would it would turn to green yeah go green and also we'd be talking about what dinners we're going to get a lot and you'd be jealous wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that group text and being the only green bubble just to with them hard i think it was a 15 person group chat i tossed jerry in it immediately turned to the green bubble and everybody was like who the fuck is this and jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos yeah and started sending shirtless pictures to the chat yep you took it upon yourself to to organize the draft order by taking names out of hat while shirtless well we were a week away from our draft and we still did not have a draft order so i made a video of myself um doing the draft order and if you recall there was a a controversy as they say in england a controversy um where we got the first pick yeah and everyone said i cheated yeah and i was actually upset that we got the first pick because you got to take Christian McCaffrey and thank goodness. Yeah.
Thank goodness they just went to some random pickinator to redo the draft because we would have been fucked hard. Yeah.
It started with a bang. I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get go.
But then after like one, two, three months, they grew to love Jerry.

And now Jerry is like the unofficial mascot of that fantasy league,

which it goes to show you, if you keep Jerry around long enough,

you're going to end up loving him.

Yeah.

Guys, I really, I feel like I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our league.

Like, I really dropped the ball for you guys i lost by

for those who don't know i posted a few times on x um we lost in in the game that would have

taken us to the championship by point 10 points point 10 and that's on the manager

you know it is on me i saw the manager i i gotta tell you hand up i take full responsibility

I don't know. 0.10 and that's on the manager you know it is on me i saw the manager i i gotta tell you hand up i take full responsibility um i never admitted this to you and i'm gonna say it now um at the trade deadline we were offered a straight up trade max you listening max yes i'm listening'm listening.
We were offered a trade straight up. AJ Brown, we had Joe Mixon, and I turned it down.
And that is why we lost. I don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed.
He had single-dig week after week after week and you have to start joe mixon and you know i'm not defending myself here but in my defense um you know aj brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines he He was reading self-help books in between plays. I just thought the Eagles were going to eagle, and I didn't want any part of that.
And that was my mistake. And I want to apologize to your faces.
Okay. I appreciate it.
I feel accepted. Because I got to tell you that.
I'm sorry. What were you going to say? I just feel a little bit like John Mara, where it's like, I'm going to kill myself if A.J.
Brown beats us. He's sitting there.
Yeah, I'm doing this right now. Is it fair to say, Jerry, you're not on the hot seat, but people are asking if you're on the hot seat? I think, yeah.
I don't even think it's a hot seat. I think people are saying maybe he needs like, you know, when a coach, Nathaniel Hackett, when he was with the Broncos, he had to bring in a clock manager.
Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be like a senior analyst that can at least you can talk things through with them when you're worried about a trade or a start or sit.

Just an old head that maybe has been through the wars that can give you some advice.

That's just been thrown out there.

Yeah, not anybody that's above you.

Right.

But just somebody that you can ask questions.

Well, that person, if we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us. Right.
And Jerry would have to report to them. But again, not above you.
I would like to remain calling all the plays. Okay.
I feel that responsibility should be mine. I'm a coach of men.
Wait, what did Syria? Leader of men i'm a leader of men and uh i i think i can handle it i i just want to say for the record two years ago we made it to the finals and we lost and this year we came in third so i mean it's a lot of numbers but i mean like yeah i mean like Allen just defended his coach. Yeah, I know, but questions are happening with Sean McDermott.

It's like, has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since DeMar?

Have you been the same fantasy manager since DeMar?

I want to say, for those who don't recall, we went to the championship the week that DeMar Hamlin. Say it? Almost died.
damar prayers for damar uh went down and we were losing by just a few points and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks uh be a part of our total score the next week and we lost we look i you know what i i i realized that my job is on

the line here no no no listen we didn't want this to be an accusatory it's not an intervention

we just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization when we lose

in the playoffs we have to look in the mirror and say what can we do better the process is the process what we want it to be because the standard that we have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process. Is the process what we want it to be? Because the standard that we have as an organization, it couldn't be higher.
The standard is anything less than championship. We don't think about that.
Our goal is to win championships here. And I'll speak on behalf of Big Cat.
We're giving you a vote of confidence. You're our manager.
You are our manager you're a manager whether we add a general manager who knows but what would you say the standard is uh the standard is i no no already already fucked it up what is the standard jerry championships no jerry what is the standard the standard what is it what is the is the standard, Jerry? Championships. No.
Jerry, what is the standard? The standard, what is it?

What is the standard?

The standard is winning.

No.

You're so close.

Your standard is defeat is impossible.

Just repeat it.

The standard is the standard.

There it is.

Got it.

All right.

That's our guy.

I don't like how long it took to get there.

You know what?

See, we're culture guys.

I don't like how long it took to get there.

Okay.

Let me go through. I did some research.
I have a fantasy recap and what we might do next season. Is it okay if I go through that? And then you can.
I had a question for you before we go through that. Sure.
It's not the rollback question. No, it's not the rollback question yet.
Is your wife ever going to follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us and she doesn't follow us. That's a...
I'm just saying like locker room culture. I went and looked and the last four tweets are directly at me and PFT.
And she does not follow us back. One of her tweets, our daughter just sent me this video.
She was simply doing her homework on a Sunday night. They don't know who Dak is.
This is Jerry's erratic behavior. I was talking about on your sports podcast.

Also, there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving.

What is happening?

PFT and Big Cat.

Jerry will only talk about benching Laporta.

It's bumming everyone out.

Happy Thanksgiving.

And then she said, so happy.

Pardon my take.

Fantasy football season is over.

Big Cat and PFT.

Jerry is torture on Sundays. And do you know why? Because sucks at it loser get a new manager this is your wife supermodel by the way uh who is calling you a loser and asking us to fire you is that winning culture uh listen i don't i'm not in charge of her her socials.
I'm not that ingrained in her career. It's not like a Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the two of us.
We do our own thing. But my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow someone, you can DM someone.
And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image i don't think that's what we said i said i i loved her in the swimsuit issue yeah but then you like her weird like lip you like lick your lips and stuff i don't think i like my lips we just said that her swimsuit issue was a very big part of our childhood. I became a man.
Yeah. Yeah, but I would.
There, right there. I became a man.
You're alluding that you masturbated to my wife. And why would my wife follow you? No, I'm saying I grew up.
Yeah, that could be anything. That could be learning how to drive a car.
That could be a bar mitzvah. That'd be quinceanera.
There's there's a lot of things that becoming a man is yeah but why you know my wife for decades has dealt with like weirdos and creeps like and i guess what i will point us out to him we'll handle him for her like is jerry bothering you rebecca we'll help you i will talk to her about following I'm sorry. I didn't know that you weren't being followed.

Also, it's okay.

It's okay.

But she's listen.

She is, I would say, the perfect example of our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager.

So we want to hear from the fans.

Okay.

Maybe we need to do a Jerry con where we invite all the fans and they can tell us face to face.

Hey, here's the problem with his fantasy managing because we answer to the fans. Jerry, let me just ask you this.
Stand by me. Yeah, I was in it.
Great film. Thank you.
Classic. How would you describe that? What is the genre of film that is? A coming of age film.
Exactly. Interesting.
Rebecca Romijn was a coming of age thing for me. You're making, I understand what you're using the word coming.
No, no, no, no. You said it.
You started that. It was a long you.
It was a long you. It was like one of those German yous with the two dots over it.
It was like cooming. Yeah, yeah.
It's a cooming of age. He was zooming.
He was zooming there. I would agree with you on that.
A cooming of age. Yeah.
Guys, listen, let me get to my fantasy preview for you. What I can do for you as a manager, I know you're thinking about bringing someone else in.
I don't want to bring anyone else in. I think I can handle all the play calling duties.
Let me just give you the research I've done based on the 2024-25 season and what we have to look forward to. Okay.
You have the floor. Yeah, this is basically it.
This is our exit interview after a tough season. What it is.
That's what they do. Every team does this.
After the season's over, all the players meet with the coach and the GM. Talk about, hey, what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at? Is this a performance improvement plan?

No, it's not.

No, no.

We only have one of those that we're allowed to use,

and it's currently being used.

It's like a franchise tag.

We're currently using it on memes.

So the pip can't be passed around like that.

Okay.

Let me go through my preview.

Okay.

So the exit interview.

You're not exiting.

What would you say you do here jerry i didn't know that joe mix i mean that's also just that's a transparency issue because you find out yeah like the athletic is going to do a story about this being like inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the part of my take fantasy league and be like jerry o'connell turned down aj brown for joe mixon and that's where the season that's where he lost because imagine if you're aj brown or sorry if you're joe mixon and you know that jerry is shopping you how do you how do you go play ball after that it'd be tough it would be tough and you said that his his his season took a downturn major right after you had him on the trade block?

He actually fucked us.

He fucked us out of winning the whole thing.

Oh, guys, you want to see my Planet Fitness shorts?

I was in sort of a rush.

I had to go with the jorts today.

Oh, nice.

Are those the Bing Bong jorts?

Oh, man.

How about Mr. Bing Bong?

Can you believe I was in Stand By Me? I was at Jerry Maguire, and currently the thing I'm most known for about Mr. Bing Bong? Can you believe I was in Stand By Me?

I was at Jerry Maguire, and currently the thing I'm most known for is Mr. Bing Bong.

I can't wait for NBA playoffs.

We got to bring him back.

All right.

Here we go.

This is our fantasy recap exit interview.

You don't like that word, but that's what they use. I don't like it.

Let's start with the AFC North.

Let's start with the Bills. That was a bummer this weekend.
Oh, no. Hold on.
Time out. Yeah.
Big Cat. I think we need to get somebody.
Oh, sorry. Sorry.
Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry. AFC.
Sorry. I feel like Jill Biden now.
I have to be like, no, he's fine. He's of sound-minded body.

He can still do this job. Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help in decision-making? No, but actually, sometimes when I gamble, I look at fantasy defenses, how they're going to perform.
And I was always looking for a system with gambling. and I thought, oh, what if I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet against the team that that defense is playing and it didn't work.
It wasn't a system. I know that Brick is a listener to this podcast.
Brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with Jerry. No, don't do it to me, guys.
He knows inside and outs of an NFL franchise. Don't do it to me.
So where are we starting? AFC East. Got it.
Let's start with the Bills. Their receivers have been a total bummer this season.
I mean, Khalil Shakir is their number one receiver. Omari Cooper, they got hosed by the Browns, that was that was a bad trade um kinkade has been a bummer um of course josh allen is a stud of course james cook man he was possessed uh so good on sunday uh led the league with tds 16 um but.
I mean. Cooper was weird because it looked like it was going to be a good trade right at the start.
And then nothing. Nothing.
He had one game against Tennessee. Yeah.
But nothing. And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend.
All right. Let's go to Miami.
I want to apologize to you guys also uh for not making that that aj brown trade but also i did not see john who smith this season and that's something if you are managing a fantasy team you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top five in their position um that's that might even been a waiver wire it may have been um i just didn't see him and i apologize it was too late what happened with our wire this week or this year did we make any big pickups uh we um you know jalen warren was a waiver wire pickup um i don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire um because that's do not recall that's what noted in the exit interview he said i do not recall that big ken i have like belichick it's like the undrafted free agents that's where you win yeah and your his answer was i do not recall do not recall not important okay um but you know what tyreek wattle and tua i iua, A-chan, of course, is incredible. But I got to tell you my problem with Miami.
Your head coach can't shiver on a sideline. No.
That's not allowed. And I got it.
I'm not even making a joke here. Like, refugees shiver like dogs dogs that don't have homes oh by the way max way to be congrats on nola max thank you jerry um billy whatever yeah no la billy yeah nola rescue dogs shiver yeah you know Head coaches can't shiver on national television.
That's why I like a fat coach. Yeah.
You have a good layer of insulation. By the way, I think Tyreek Hill is going to go to Washington.
You think so? Oh, interesting. I think Josh Harris is going to pay that $27 million, and it's going to open everything up,

and I'm really looking forward to that.

Yeah, he's a great player.

He's still really, really good.

I just don't know.

You got to take a gamble on his, you know,

some of the off-the-field stuff.

I think Coach Quinn can handle it.

Okay.

I think that would be fun.

The Jets, memes, are you there?

Hello.

None of them ever again, ever again. I think this team this last season is going to be studied for what not to do.
By the way, this is part of my take. We have to have takes.
I think the problem is Aaronaron okay i think he's the problem and i'm gonna tell you why i i told you i have teenage daughters they're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home young men and i make them say hello to me and i shake their hand and i go hello nice, nice to meet you. I'm their father.

And I look them in the eye.

I look them in the eye to look for,

to see if they're druggies.

Yeah.

And I got to tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes.

He looks like a druggie.

And I know this because I'm dealing with young men all the time and I look at them and I'm like, is is this a druggie is this a druggie you're a druggie get him out of here aaron rogers just has druggie eyes to me and you know what you don't want that around brick we mentioned brick impressionable impressionable yep um oh i my jets Memes, are you still there?

Still here.

My Jets buddy thinks that Justin Fields is going to come to the Jets.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I got a name for you.

Okay.

What about Derek Carr?

That's a good name.

Yeah, it's a good name.

This season really...

You're just off quarterbacks.

This season with him, I'm just not feeling it.

I know he's a friend of the show. I to his interview it was it was it was a great interview um he's must he looks good good arms definitely works arms no druggie eyes maybe prozac eyes he's got the mascara he's got beautiful eyes he's he's a he's got pretty dreamy eyes yeah um I do think I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to

I think he'll go to Tennessee. That's kind of perfect for him.
I could see that happening. Yeah.
Maybe the Browns. Maybe the Steelers.
Maybe. All right.
The Patriots. Hank, are you there? Yeah.
Hank., can you believe that people actually get nervous when I'm about to talk about their memes? Yeah. Give your final judgment.
Yeah. I can't believe it actually matters.
Oh, memes hate you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets. Yeah.
Listen, memes, I'm a Jets fan. It's got to be said.
Sorry, memes. He didn't have a coach all season.
See, he's mad. Also, Devontae Adams and Gary Wilson, you should take them.
Hey, you know what? I want to ask you, memes. Aaron Rodgers.
Does he have druggy eyes? Yeah, he's a full-blown drug addict. But he had the second-best season in the franchise history.
Top-five quarterback. Top-five quarterback.
He was top-five in everything in the Texas game. Hank.
Yep. We're going to draft Drake May next season.
Fuck yes. Wow.
We're going to draft him. Let me tell you, Josh McDaniels.
Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2.0. Wow.
You've got Doug Marone now, too. I got to tell you, Hunter Henry,ry hank you're back not only that i think that's the first time that's ever been said hunter henry you're back hank is back um you guys are picking fourth yeah all right let me say this new york shitball giants pick third if they pass on travis hunter the giants and the fucking patriots get travis hunter i will be so because then we have a we have a hank problem for years to come if that happens yeah yeah so we come then he becomes hank becomes hunter henry at that point it's so scary um oh but you know what i think you should um the giants should take travis hunter uh i think you guys at four should reach for that uh i'm gonna mispronounce his name tet tet mcmillan tetoria oh from arizona yeah that awesome wide wide receiver tetoria somebody help Help me lookettoria.
Oh, from Arizona. Awesome wide receiver.

Tettoria. Somebody help me

look it up. Max, you're good

with accents. You're good with names.

Tet.

Max?

You can just call him Tet. That's what I've

been saying. No, I want to say his

full name. Look it up.

Tet.

Tettoria. Tet.
His name's Tet good one Hank Tetoria Tetora come on Max guys give it one shot Max go for it T-Mac Tetora Tetora Tetora Tetairoa. Tet.
All right, T-Mac. I think you should draft T-Mac in that fourth spot.
You should reach for it. But Hank, great job, man.
I mean it. Really good job.
Thank you. Okay, we're going to get back to Jerry O'Connell in a second, but does everyone know what time it is? What season it is? Hockey season.
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Taxact.com. All right, let's head over to the AFC West.
I got that right. The Chiefs, right? Yep.
Okay, the Chiefs. It's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year you know what i know mahomes have big games that carolina game that tampa game a couple others houston pittsburgh but he had kind of a blah season he didn't oh this is a fantasy recap obviously they had a winning record this isn't about records this is about fantasy everyone on that team had a blast season and watching them these last few weeks i have a feeling these old heads wait till the playoffs to start playing like yeah watching travis kelsey it's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend and that's not what we care about you know like we want regular we want weeks 1 through 17.
Oh, hey, I have a non-fantasy question. Okay.
Obviously, Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld. Mm-hmm.
Steinfeld. Steinfeld? Haley.
Haley Steinfeld. Steinfeld.
Tettoria. Yeah uh get engaged um do uh do uh travis uh does uh travis and taylor do they feel that pressure i think they i think she's waiting to propose to him i think her fans would be like how dare how dare travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that well isn't she sort of like a I don't want to put anyone inside of uh like uh I don't want to cage anybody into their artistic uh boundaries I don't want to give anyone artistic boundaries but isn't she sort of a mainstream like aren't we waiting for like a formal like engagement yeah from them like yeah isn't that informal if the woman is engaging sorry to be uh well i guess i was just i was thinking uh somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on sunday what if the at the end of the super bowl confetti coming down travis kelsey gets on a knee and proposes to taylor swift and we were saying that the swifties would not like that no because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment so what if she proposed to him at like the grammys or at her big like a big concert that she was having that to me feels like that's that might be the way that relationship's going yeah amas grammys yeah then they just become essentially the king and queen of america at that.
Wow. Like they become the number one tabloid story.

Yeah.

What are Travis and Taylor doing today?

There's got to be pressure.

They're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings and, you know, he's just giving her a friendship bracelet.

Yeah.

Like one of those concert, what do you call them?

A friendship bracelet where they give each other?

Yes.

A swift, yeah, friendship bracelet.

Friendship bracelet. Yeah.
It better be the best swing ever. Gotta be.
Ever. All right.
So, yeah, none of the Chiefs. Okay.
Chargers. Oh, you know what, guys? I want to thank you.
In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Lad McConkie.

Yeah.

And you were right.

That's how you win fantasy.

He was a 10th round draft pick for us.

So let's see.

The most important pick that our team made, me and Big Cat actually made that pick.

And he just said that's how you win fantasy, and we didn't win anything.

That's true.

We're not winners.

Sounds like the standard is just getting into the playoffs. Just write that down.
Hey, you know what? Part of my take, got to have a take. Justin Herbert, for fantasy reasons, kind of sucks.
Yeah, they ran the ball a lot. He's not really going to work for us.
I got to tell you, too, about the Chargers. That Quentin Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo.
Mm-hmm. The circumstances, I think it was a fourth.
It was third or fourth down. They needed it.
It was against Baltimore, right? It hit him in the hands, and he dropped it. That was some...
That was some... Remember Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone? That was some butt fumble.
Yeah. That was some Cody Parkey double doink.
That was like... I can't look at that franchise for a few years after that drop.
It's just one of those... It's fair.
Oh, Najee Harris might go there. That would be interesting.
That would be interesting. Possible landing spot for Tyreek, but other than Ladd, we're not touching anybody.
Let's go to Denver. Okay, I have kind of a take with Denver.
Denver gets T. Higgins or Stephon Diggs.
Cortland Sutton and Bo Nix are must drafts. Their defense, we played them so much this season.
They they're awesome they could in that draft reach for that matthew golden guy that uh that tall texas yep wide receiver uh denver's running game we're not touching it jovanta is old please don't tell me audric estimate is good um but if they get t higgins bo nicks courtland sutton must drafts okay so you think that if they get another really good wide receiver wide receiver then their number one receiver gets better yes yes or their number or we go with whoever their number two two receiver is but they they just i i i have a theory and fantasy that you need you need that addison to help jefferson you need that jefferson to help addison it opens it up and people score more points i mean point look at the lions this season they all opened it up for everybody you know yeah i i do think that bo nicks is going to have a great year next year yeah have you seen the the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking about the play calls that they have to learn? No. And how long they are? They go on for like 15 seconds sometimes.
You have to tell everybody on the offense what you're doing on that play and then also throw in, okay, here's what we're going to check to in case they blitz. The fact that Bo Nix played that well his rookie year in Sean Payton season, I think's going to be great in the second year i like it um okay let's go to the raiders i don't know what's going to happen there now if they get shadour okay which they're saying they may trade up for to get shadour they may trade with the titans that's a possibility then i I have to tell you Jacoby Myers and Bowers become must drafts love that if Russell Wilson is their quarterback we are I'm not even going to watch oh I'm not going to watch a Raiders game I'm not only am I not going to draft, because they're typically afternoon games, because they're West Coast, I may not watch afternoon games next season.
Yeah. If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders, if Pete Carroll does that to the Raiders fans, I want nothing to do with the Raiders.
Okay, fair. of russell wilson afc north steelers steelers are in the afc north yes correct um man like that seahawks defense you you know what richard sermon richard sherman was right they carried russell wilson into the playoffs don't you ever talk about me remember that yeah yeah yeah i was at that game i was oh really yeah um sorry receiver like crabtree um man the steelers aren't for years of hurt yeah it's just it's gonna be years yeah it's gonna be bad it's gonna be bad oh but you know what i will say uh from a fantasy standpoint naji harris leaving jaylen warren becomes a must-draft good running back oh george pickens uh maybe the commanders i don't know about that why that would be awesome he's i love watching george uh-huh when he's on a different team okay uh hank hank Hank? Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
George Pickens to the Patriots? Eh. You don't think that Coach Rabel can straighten him out? I don't know if anyone can straighten out George Pickens.
He's so good, though. Yeah, but he's not.
But he's so good. But he's also not.
All right. Ravens.
AFC North, right? Yep. Oh, man.
You know what? I missed not drafting Zay Flowers, fellas. That was on me.
You know, I work with a guy who told me once Zay Flowers was small and it was just in my head. That happens.
It just gets in your head, you know? You get it taken. It's hard to get off it.
But you know what? I say man i gotta pay you guys a compliment when i came in here with my preview you said draft derrick henry because he's gonna look good in a in a ravens uniform yeah and you were right yeah he looks really good in a ravens uniform big strong let me ask you something if you were in an executive position uh we are. Yeah.
If you were making decisions about players in the NFL. The answer is yes.
And you used these rules. Yes.
You know what? He would look good. Yeah, we'd be good.
In a uniform. Yeah, yeah.
Do you think that would? Uniforms are 50% of the game. But do you think that sort of thinking would make for, do you think vibes? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. You got got to go off vibes sometimes like you look at the photoshop of a guy and you think okay what if for example what if tom brady was a tampa bay buccaneer that looks good yeah derrick henry as a cowboy doesn't really look as good no yeah you guys were wrong i think you said andy dalton was going to look be a good bear he's going to look good as a bear.
Well, listen, Andy Dalton, he did the new hair. So maybe it wouldn't work.
I also love Derrick Henry's new hair. He goes even higher, I think, on my board next year.
We are definitely, if they're around, going to draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews. That man is going to be on a mission.
He's on a mission. He's got months to just sit at home and think about it.
What a bummer. No, that was so funny.
When you posted the photo on X of Stavi. I'm not going to say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth.
Yeah. You post that photo and I remember looking at it and be like, whoa, I can't believe they're posting that.
That's not good. And then I watched it.
Yeah. None of it was in there.

He was down bad.

That was funny.

The Bengals.

Man, I got to say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown.

I didn't.

Big miss.

The more I go through this.

This is a lot of misses.

This is.

You can't throw us under the bus.

Sounds like we drafted a perfect team.

You were right about Chase Brown.

I missed on that one. uh kosecki kind of sucked you know t higgins wherever he does go something to think about last two seasons he's missed 10 games so that's something to think about when drafting him obviously all, all the Bengals, they're great.

And you know what?

I think that Al Golden guy is their new defensive coordinator.

Yeah.

I don't know anything about him, but he looks like a football guy. He's a good defensive coach.

Do you think that with T. Higgins, maybe he missed some of the games

because he was thinking about getting a big contract?

Protecting himself.

No, I think some players just get injured more often. It's true.
Browns. This is interesting.
If the Browns draft Cam Ward, I think the Browns have the second. If they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must draft for us.
Okay? If the Browns, because Coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins' offensive if kirk cousins goes to the browns jerry judy will be a must draft wow uh ford and chubb it's it's we're not drafting them but if they get a quarterback cam or kirk um draft jerry judy we're drafting jerry judy okay And when Chubb And when he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited and it's always the guy that you don't have. Yeah, exactly.
Always. Exactly.
Bummer. AFC South is dead to us.
Yeah, I was going to say, skip the whole thing. The entire division.
They're just cursed. What is the word in...
Hey, Max? Max? Max? Here. Here.
Present. What's the Italian-American term? It's the malocio.
It's the malocio. It's like the curse, right? A maloic? Yep.
Malocio sounded right to me. It's malocio.
I think it is. it's the malochio it's a malochio it's like the curse right a maloik yep malochio malochio sound sounded right to me it's malochio i think it is it's like the curse yeah tituria tituria we gotta get that i want to apologize to mr mcmillan tmack i'm sorry once i once we get it we'll get it but But the Malocchio, the AFC South just has the Malocchio.
CJ Stroud, let's start with the Texans. What a bummer, man.
What a bummer. I got to tell you, Anthony Richardson, I believe, was more successful than CJ Stroud this season.
I'm sorry. In terms of fantasy points, possibly.
I don't even care about fantasy points. Just in terms of expectations.
That's a take. I like that take i'd like you to go on that that's a quite a take yeah just in terms of expectations cj stroud was a possible like super bowl contender and he did not have a good season um you know i know i have a bad taste in my mouth because of joe mixon and that trade and how the texans finished their season look nico's great i get it tank get get well soon mixon did have a good season but i gotta tell you weeks 15 60 it's 14 15 60 17 it wasn't okay schultz sucked none of them they got the malocchio um the colts oh man i gotta i gotta take ownership of this too we drafted as our qb1 anthony richardson on our team and that was a mistake it will never happen again i actually i'm i'm coming in here with takes i think anthony richardson is of the league in a couple years.
Oh, wow. What did we say about that when Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richardson? I was like, I don't like him.
You said, don't do it. Yeah.
Don't do it. Yeah.
Guys, don't fire me, please. Don't fire me.
We're not. I paid for one third of it, too.
I did. Your driveway suffered.
And was pricey it was it was a hit but i've yeah the colts the malocio pitman was bad jonathan taylor jonathan taylor could you imagine if we had if you had him on your team and he rips off that 41 yard run and at the one yard line drops the ball and i want to tell, I wrote down what he said in his post-game interview. He wrote, you could be up 50, you could be down 50, it could be a playoff game, it could be the first season, it could be the first game of the season.
That should just never happen. But he also did have incredible games down the stretch.
I understand that. And he was out to prove a point after that but but but it's still i i want someone to say i'm changing my life after they drop after they do that at the one yard line and drop a ball and by the way lose a game that they should have won they should say i need to change i i i need to change major things in my life yeah yeah something major has to change that.
That's rock bottom. Something major has to change.
Not just like, that just can't happen. Yeah.
I mean, this is about you, Jerry, not about me, but I was in three fantasy leagues. I won two out of three of them.
And I had Jonathan Taylor. So again, it's about you.
Jonathan Taylor, you won with him? I mean, his last two weeks of the season, he had insane games. In the playoffs? In the fantasy playoffs? Yeah.
Whew. It's more about that one yard for you, though.
Yeah. But that's okay.
Yeah. I do agree.
Winner, loser, how you decide to get there. I would like to see a little bit more.
Like, that's the worst thing that i've ever done in my life after that game yeah i would like to i would like to see somebody say that accountability accountability matters that's what we care about for us as we're managing the standard yep yeah he uh uh weeks 16 and 17 he had 218 yards and three touchdowns and then he went 125 yards and two touchdowns.

Yeah, so Big Cat, if we're looking at one of our employees

and they drop the metaphorical ball at the one-yard line,

I would like them to say to me, I'm changing everything about my life.

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree with you, Jerry.

He did.

Yeah, good point, Jerry.

He literally dropped the ball, and then he scored six touchdowns

in the last three weeks.

Jerry makes a great point that we would like to hear that.

Yeah.

Good point. Okay, Titans, do we even do the titans do we don't have to do um i i'm sorry i lost my train of thought yeah um i'm sorry guys i no no it's okay keep going keep going i dropped the ball at the one people drop the ball all the time.
Yeah. Oh, man.
You know what else months me out about the Colts? Oh, who is the Colts number one tight end? Tell me that. Number one tight end.
Who was their leading tight end? I'm just going to say Moe Alleycox. No, it was someone named Kylan Granson.
Kylan Granson, Moe Alleycoxx and their other tight end drew ogletree had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long that's not okay dallas clark jack doyle colby fleaner tammy are rolling over in their retirement chairs. Molocchio.
The Titans. Oh, I do want to say, I know if we were going to draft anyone in the AFC South and we're not because they're dead to us.
Pollard's got some gas in the tank. Yeah, I don't hate Pollard.
We did draft Pollard on our team. All right.
Good work. Good job.
Okay, and if the Titans do not make that trade spots

with the Raiders and take Cam Ward,

Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft.

If that druggie Aaron Rodgers goes there,

Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft.

If we were drafting AFC South players. Oh, Cam Ward goes to the Titans.
Their new general manager, Nick Borgazi. Not Nick Borgazi.
Nick Borgazi. Nickorgonzi is their new general manager.

He's the one who scouted Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs. Okay.

So, Cam Ward on the Titans.

Watch out.

Best quarterback of all time.

Watch out.

Jaguars, I guess Brian Thomas Jr.

He's pretty good.

You can't draft Bigsby or Tatien.

Do they have a general manager yet? No. Tell me about Ian Cunningham.
Who is Ian Cunningham? He is the assistant general manager for the Bears, and I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the Bears would get two picks in the third round, compensatory picks. Wow.
So you have no... I'd like the picks.
You'd like the picks over... He seems like a pretty good guy that's trusted and, you know, but I would like the picks.
All right. Anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AFC South.
NFC East. We're in the NFC.
Okay, let's go. It's the Eagles, right eagles right yeah yep okay um birds max next season if i'm the manager will i be drafting any eagles max yep first of all before i say this how do we pronounce goddard is goddard goddard you were right the first time just goddard yep yeah but it's spelled g-o-e-d yeah so it's spelled goddard it's pronounced goddard yeah goddard goddard um we're drafting all the eagles man all right every single one of them and if i am offered a trade for aj brown i'm just gonna fucking click accept trade um that feels like something we shouldn't telegraph man smokes yeah we're just we're putting out some disinformation right now yeah for anybody

listening in our in that league um you understand why i didn't make that trade right i mean no i

don't i don't because of the book yeah because he read a book yeah oh man um man remember that

max i just want to say i know everyone talks about goddard and by the way i believe don't

I'm going to say, I know everyone talks about Goddard. And by the way, I believe, don't quote me on this, leading receiver in the playoffs for the Eagles.
But you know when he won me over? That triple stiff arm in the wildcard weekend, man. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.
Incredible. He went back for more.
He could have just kept going, but he said he had to slow down to give him just one more punch.

Oh, I got to give you another props now that we're on the Eagles.

I was staying at a...

I don't know if they're a partner of the show. I was staying

at a Marriott

Bonvoy Hotel. Sorry.

No, that's okay.

And there was an... I was just sitting

in bed and there was

like a Marriott channel and Jason Kelsey had like an infomercial on there because he's the spokesperson. He's not usually on TV.
He was great. He was really good.
I thought he had a really good personality. Talented guy.
Yeah, I watched that infomercial. It was like a 20 minute infomercial.
And I was riveted. Yeah.
But it was good stuff. He's not playing anymore.
Are you sure it wasn't just... He has a TV show.
He has a late night show. He does? Friday nights.
Was it a Friday night? What is it on? ESPN. Sorry, guys.
This is the only sports. I get all my sports.
You're right. Love that.
Good point.

Because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel.

Do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like, man, if my career had just gotten a little better,

that could be me?

Good question.

Good question.

Good question.

No, I try to just worry about my own lane. all right yeah no hey listen i mean i'm i'm here my no you're here that's true that's a good point blew here coach last night that's a good point that's a good point here did you raw dog fitness did you raw dog it uh no i put on uh uh noise canceling headphones okay um yeah i went to a Planet Fitness, I took a shit, I showered.
Yep. And I came here.-canceling headphones.
Okay. Yeah, I went to a plan of fitness.

I took a shit.

I showered.

Yep.

And I came here.

Yeah, living the dream.

Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fucking fantasy team again next season?

Isn't that something that he aspires to do?

Why should he just like...

Mario Lopez probably would be awesome as a fantasy team.

He's a good-looking guy, isn't he?

Yeah.

Ageless. NFC East east commanders right yeah um oh man i know i've said this before if scary terry gets one more receiver maybe devonta adams maybe tyler lockett who doesn't want to be in seattle anymore anymore Terry kill he would have a Jamar Chasey a Jamar Chase like season wow I like that I think we will get a wide receiver I think you can you can bet on that going in next year if we draft somebody in the first round or if we we sign somebody in free agency I think we will have a very good number two um that zackerts is so awesome too um man so good hey anybody see that video i didn't hear you guys talk about it where fletcher cox max you on max max max i am here fletcher cox hugging zackerts cox hugging zackerts man that was that was emo man yeah that was because it was like so because it's fl Fletcher Cox and he obviously can't pass a line.
And he's going, Zach, Zach. It's like calling someone from the stands, you know.
Zach, oh man, that was really emotional. Yeah, it was cool.
That moment, I really liked that. Ertz not retired.
He wants to make that very clear. He shouldn't.
Yep. He was awesome, man.
God, I love a Washington tight end as well cooley vernon davis logan thomas love them um yeah maybe they draft that matthew golden guy that we talked about earlier that texas guy or uh savian williams uh tcu right college football expert yeah ohio state let's help jayden out a little bit everybody jayden and terry oh the cowboys okay this is interesting i guess dac is staying there because coach schottenheimer is now the head coach right so i guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening i don't think you really can can move Dak. I think he probably has a no-trade clause, right? Ooh, what would it? You could trade him to the Titans.
Would he be a better quarterback if his name was Zach? Zach Prescott. Hmm.
Yeah. Thought started.
Yeah, Zach Prescott for sure. Zach Prescott would be a pretty good quarterback.
But yeah, I think Dak has the no-trade, so I don't know that he would leave. All right.
So he's staying there. staying there i gotta tell you that makes me not want to be a part of the cowboys i i and by the way you know jerry jones is gonna jerry jones you know t higgins is probably going there stefan diggs he's gonna get aaron jones over there water is wet the dallas cowboys are gonna go 6 and 11 it's just It's going to happen.
I don't care who is over there. Mm is wet.
The Dallas Cowboys are going to go 6-11.

It's going to happen.

I don't care who is over there.

We'll draft Brandon Aubrey.

He seems to be their whole offense.

All right.

See?

Yeah.

Good job.

The best kicker of all time.

Good kicker.

Jerry O'Connell.

Okay.

Let's get to the Giants.

Still NFC East, right? I think the Giants have the most intriguing offseason of any team in the nfl now do you have a bias against the giants jerry um i don't mind the giants i don't earlier i think you called them the new york shitbag giants well they had a terrible season they were unwatchable and it's been that way for a couple of years.

They have the third pick, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

I said earlier, they've got to take Travis Hunter.

There's some rumors that they might take Alabama quarterback.

No.

Jalen Del Rio, no. That'd be crazy high.

Okay.

It's been on some mock drafts.

Yeah, people will talk about it. Okay.
They get Travis Hunter. Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants.
He's got Travis Hunter, Malik, and that running back, Tracy. Max, they're winning the NFC East next season.

Wow. I don't know about that.

That's a hell of a take.

Max, you

hear those bells?

Bing bong.

Yeah. You hear

footsteps, Maxie.

Sam Darnold comes there.

Travis Hunter, Malik,

Tracy, they're winning the NFC East. It's always a different team every year.
But they better not take that Jalen Milrow. I've seen some mock drafts with them up there.
Let's go to the NFC West, the Seahawks, right? Yep. Yeah.
That's good. Oh, God.
All right. To prepare for this, I listened to about 20 fucking hours of locked on Seahawks.

Kill me now.

Because I really didn't know what was going on with them.

And I'll tell you, if we even think about drafting anyone there, it's because they went

10 and seven last year.

And I want to tell you, the only reason why that team went 10 and 7 is because mike mcdonald is a really good coach all right after my 19th hour of locked on seahawks it seems like tyler lockett is leaving which leaves jackson smith najigba i said that correctly right you did that was a little scary one yeah jackson smith najigba yeah max if i memes if i said anything just beat me out okay i'm really telling the line there jackson smith najigba yep say it three times fast no way man no way you're no way you're not gonna here. No way.
No way. JSN.
How about just JSN? JSN. JSN.
JSN. JSN.
No way, man. No way.
Max, have your finger on the button. Okay.
He's really intriguing if Tyler Lockett leaves. Okay.
But you got got to be careful he only scored six touchdowns

this season and we need touchdowns if i'm going to be your fantasy manager and if we're going to win also geno staying what do you mean if we said we said that you were yeah it's you're not getting fired you just might have a boss um the cardinals kyler i i still love him he's great if he's around we're going to draft him

Trey McBride is awesome

Michael Wilson was a The Cardinals. Kyler, I still love him.
He's great. If he's around, we're going to draft him.

Trey McBride is awesome.

Michael Wilson was a real bummer.

Thought he was going to do a little better.

Yeah, Harrison just needs to step it up or he needs help or something.

I don't know what's happening there.

Yeah, we're a pro Marvin Harrison podcast, just for the record.

In case he

happens to listen big fans senior and junior of course yeah both yeah love him great family he had a mediocre fantasy season though yeah but it was good he's great he's great i'm just saying if he's marvin harrison all the marvin harrison talking right now He lives in California.

Not in Chicago.

Marvin Harrison.

But I'm your fantasy manager, and I want to say if he's there and we have a choice of another receiver, we're probably going of equal sort of standing. But we're trying to protect you, but if it's going to be you or us, this is you saying that.
Well, we're a team. Sound mind and body.
We are a team he's consenting to anything marvin harrison senior wants to do yep we are we are one we are a team so if someone's here in chicago and i'm not here they can come see you no no no they can go to represent our team no no no would you take a bullet for us you probably'd probably let me, wouldn't you?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We'd throw you in front of it.

Let's go to the Rams.

Not Mario, though.

Man, he looks so good, that guy.

What does he do?

Jerry, are you going to get into any superhero movies?

No.

You should try to do that.

You should try to.

I'm the voice of Superman in the animated Superman movies, a few of them. Oh, okay.
DC animation. Okay.
But as a career move, maybe talk to your agent, tell him Jerry's going to Marvel. Yeah.
I mean, I've said that often, but it doesn't automatically mean that you're in those movies. Push a little harder.
I know, but you can want something all you want. It doesn't mean it's going to happen.
Yeah, it's kind of like us in a fantasy championship. Speak it into existence.
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And now, here's more Jerry O'Connell. The Rams, we're taking all of them.
That receiving core, that Puka cup, and I got to tell you, Robinson. Robinson had two 2-TD games.
Shit, say that again. Robinson.
I won't say Jackson Smith, the Jigba fast, but I will say two 2-TD games. Two 2-TD games.
Last season, weeks eight and nine, man. Robinson, he may be suspended a little bit.
He did have a DWI. But, man, that receiving core is awesome.
You know, I know I told you I listened to 20 hours of Locked On Seahawks. To do research for this, I also wanted to see where Matthew Stafford was, and I couldn't really find out any information.
So I listened to about five episodes of Kelly Stafford's Time Out podcast. Okay.
You got any kelly stafford as a podcast kelly matthew stafford's wife it's actually an interesting podcast it's sort of uh it's from the point of view of uh is is wag a yeah it's not offensive no wives and girlfriends right uh wags of football players so it's sort of interesting uh but um i think the sixth episode i was on uh kelly got to talking about next season with her husband and kelly stafford said um this was exclusively on the timeout podcast you don't mind if i mention other no go for it um that matthew stafford texted her let's talk about next season so it sounds like he's coming back and kelly is preparing herself for him to come back okay i think yeah you would say let's talk if it was he's walking away yeah but since he brought in next season yeah let. Let's talk about it.
Yeah.

So that means that next season exists.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Interesting.

Brady didn't send that text, did he?

No.

No.

He just did it.

Yeah.

He did.

Yeah, he did.

And that's, I mean, maybe he should have sent that text.

Yeah.

You know, I do want to say I did have a revelation on my seventh hour of uh time out with kelly kelly stafford um you gotta admit i do work for you guys so like yeah you put in the effort um effort is important it can take you so far also important but it also takes you so far but i was thinking as your sort of fantasy expert here um on part of my take um some people say to me after they yell like bing bong or stuff like that or yell like maxi um they say like hey when are you getting a podcast and you know i was like yeah like when am i getting a podcast like and then when i told you i was in the seventh hour of of kelly stafford's time out i was like you know what guys i think i think we've reached the end of the earth i think we've i think there's all the pocket i think yeah we've hit them all you know be interesting though is like if there was a wags podcast but for the wives and girlfriends of fantasy managers and if there's anybody out there that is maybe like a wife of a guy that spends a lot of time on fantasy and he's annoying and you want to start a podcast i think barstool sports would probably be interested in producing that yeah yeah i might be in for that yeah hypothetically but you guys would like that yeah i mean i follow me but yeah i just think we've hit critical mass with podcasts you know i just think it's over yeah bffs that's all about chicken fries ndas armchair talks about everybody's sober it's good it's healthy smartless actors talking laughing at each other i mean rogan the ivermectin. What would my lane? I don't even know what my lane would be.
No, I don't. Yeah.
Pod saves America. Biden's all good.
I mean, I don't even know what my lane would be. Yeah.
I think that's it. All right um man how funny that we dodged that christian mccaffrey bullet yeah we could have we could have like i almost had the first oh god we could have not won the championship um yeah yeah but you know what i got a problem with the niners and you know what john lynch obviously graded his job they've been to two super bowls um graded his job what's going to happen with brock purdy i don't know probably pay him money i understand that but is john lynch going to john lynch and not is he not going to show up to camp like remember the whole i because i think that whole brandon iuk thing tanked Set him on a bad path.

What happens there?

I don't know.

Yeah, it's an interesting question because you would think that he would want to be paid

more than Dak Prescott.

And Dak Prescott is the highest paid player in the league.

But then now you've got all that cap committed to Brock.

Your team's already making...

You've got a lot of questions about who you keep around.

And also you kind of owe Brock Purdy because nobody talks about Trey Lance because of Brock Purdy. And all the picks you gave up to move up to get Trey.
Yeah. It's funny.
I didn't even think about that. Look, I'm always just pay the players.
You end up paying them anyway. So why keep them out? But John Lynch plays hardball.
He does.'re so we're gonna stay away from the niners also i gotta say i don't know if it's like my age range but like it makes me think of the early 80s and i get like the colors it gets kind of depressed like i think of like cigarettes and earthquakes and just like i don't know they kind of depress me it's always an afternoon game um all right n. NFC North lions, all of them.
The fact that Jamison Williams went so off weeks 16 and 17, it just opens up that entire offense. Just all of them, all of them, every single one of them.
I do think coach Campbell should have not played any starters in week 17. I thought that was a big mistake.
I thought it was a big mistake i i think it's why they're not playing in the super bowl you know it was so funny i was thinking when saquon watched shipley score a touchdown on sunday to see how pumped he got max are you still on max i'm here i'm here to see how pumped he got jerry's Max's dog. He gets separation anxiety.
He's like, Max, Max, Max. He can also, I'm right here.
You can see me. Oh, yeah.
It's cute, though. You get afraid that Max left.
I think it would have pumped the whole team up, and I think they would have performed better against in the postseason. You know, I think it has a lot to do i'm not kidding and this is this is part of my take i gotta have a take yep i think a lot of it has to do with copenhagen i don't know if anyone has ever i know we have like fans is in out there and stuff lucy yeah lucy apologies that's okay let me you want one no no no let me let me try that again i think

you should have one no no no thank you thank you i'm off the neck you want a lip pillow um i know we're all fans of lucy here yep um do it again three two one like you know mario is like a super professional he does yeah no he wouldn't takes he goes like this he goes well he wouldn't fuck that up three two one I know we're all fans of Lucy here

and I gotta say

because professional he does yeah no he wouldn't takes he goes like this he goes well he wouldn't fuck that up three two one i know we're all fans of lucy here and i gotta say because coach campbell is a copenhagen guy i think that's been established in hard knocks right and if you don't know if you ever dipped copenhagen is like it's the main line of chewing tobacco it's not like strands it's not like long it's like fine bits that go right to i mean you're mainlining nicotine yeah it's almost like drinking like dark black stella blue coffee and throwing in a lucy it's good that was um good job uh but um i think because he he's a Copenhagen guy, I think he's like, we're going to keep going.

We're going to keep going.

We're going to keep going.

No rest.

All gas, no brakes.

All gas, no brakes.

And you don't have a natural sense of like, hey, fellas, let's take a break for a week.

Yeah, take a beat.

So I think that all gas, no brakes doesn't work.

Vikings. so um i think that all gas no brakes doesn't work uh vikings um what's gonna happen there is jj is jj mccarthy gonna be in good i i think he's gonna be good i think kevin o'connell will make sure he's good okay all right i just uh i just don't know i mean, we'll wait until the preseason.
Oh, Kirk Cousins maybe going there? Going back? I don't think so. I think it's going to be J.J.
McCarthy. I don't know what to do with Sam Darnold.
Packers. Oh, Big Cat, this is going to excite you.
Their receivers suck so bad. Yeah.
Well, is it the receivers or is it Jordan Love? I think it's the receivers. I think it's the receivers.
Could be both. I don't think Jaden Reed and Christian Watson are doing it.
I mean, Kraft is good. We're just staying away.
The Bears, Big Cat, you ready? Yeah, none of them. Are you ready? Yeah.
How do you feel? When you're about to hear my take on your team. I think you're going to say none of them.
So anything over none of them is a success. He's six out of ten.
Six out of ten excited. Well, it's so funny.
I did a couple drafts of this because the NFL is ever changing, especially these days with hirings and everything. We were going to say none of them.
Yeah. That they were poison.
I expected that. They infected your team, Mr.
Smith. They were the monkey pox.
They're the human papilloma virus of fantasy. These are all fair? But now that your coach is Ben Johnson.
Yeah. All of them.
Oh! He fixed everything. Turned around quick.
Roma Dunze. He's the antidote.

Is going to be Jameson Williams 2.0.

He's going to have two.

He's going to have a rushing and passing.

He's going to have three touchdowns a game.

Okay.

Holy shit.

Let's talk about drafts. The person who should have won the Heisman, Ashton Gentry.

Travis Hunter had a pretty good season. I don't know if you could do should have Travis Hunter won the Heisman Is this What is the show called Part of my take I'm going to have a take Okay Ashton Jente should have won the Heisman Is he going to be a bear Possibly If he is a bear Can you imagine All the things that i've said about him and having to

interview him yeah i've imagined can you imagine what coach johnson is going to do with ashton jane

yeah he's gonna he's gonna get freaky with it what happened with deandre swift this this season

it was the offensive line but also he's he's not very good i don't think i think there's a there's

a big difference between running behind the bears offensive line and running behind the eagles

Thank you. the offensive line but also he's he's not very good I don't think I think there's a big difference between running behind the Bears offensive line and running behind the Eagles offensive line I think that's what that showed us yeah NFC South Falcons okay I have a question for you guys if by the way I'm gonna say it right now I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager I have to set he's trying to flip it on right now.
I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager. I have to set.
Oh, he's trying to flip it on us. I have to set boundaries.
I won't work with someone else. All right.
It's just the three of us. That makes our decision a lot easier.
Do not get along well with others. I don't want to be stuck with brick.
Isn't that Woody Johnson's case? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
I think if it's brick, you should have to accept that. It's brick or nobody.
If we get brick to do the hot flash. Oh, he's taking off.
Do you still have that weird tuft of hair in your back? It's getting hot in here. Yeah.
I just had a hot flash. flash guys are making me go through menopause um i won't do it i won't work with someone else it's the three of us we'll take that into consideration go call fucking mario lopez go call the guys from smart list they have a podcast would be pretty damn good as a fantasy manager um go call kelly stafford go call my wife have them all uh we want to she doesn't follow us NFC South oh here's a question for you guys yeah I should probably start to wrap this up right this is going no that's okay okay let's start with the Atlanta Falcons if a quarterback week 18 against the Panthers, goes off.

I'm talking two passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown.

Goes off.

Looks amazing.

Are we drafting him in the 2025 season?

Talking about Michael Penix.

Yes.

I thought he looked pretty good.

I would maybe hold off. Maybe a late-round backup guy.
He's not your fantasy starter. Okay.
Okay. What did you see from him? Just that.
See, here's the thing. It was week 18.
It's like the last taste in your mouth. So you're like, oh, this guy.
Yeah. I'm targeting him.
No one else is watching this game. I don't think we should base our projections on week 18.
Yeah's week 18 that's a pretty important fantasy week right yeah uh kyle pitts is never gonna happen um i like that that's the best point that you've made yeah started to come around yeah that's growth uh bucks um man stephen che is gonna get so excited right now he's getting some blood flow um all of them every single i like that baker evans chris godwin before he got injured was like just having a record-breaking season bucky irving cade all of them um oh they have an offensive do they have an offensive coordinator coordinator yet? I think they're working on it. They're working on it.
Is it that Grant guy from Minnesota? They're working on it. They're basically calling anyone who's talked to Kevin O'Connell or.
Because if it's that Minnesota assistant, right? Yeah. The Bucs are must drafts.
All of them. I like that.
They're about to have a lot of fun. Oh, yeah.
It might be that Marcus Brady guy, too, who was the passing coach at the Chargers. Whoever it is, they're going to have fun.
All of them. Saints.
None of them. Could you imagine a world where Alvin Kamara is actually on a team? Yeah, be nice.
I mean, what's his contract situation? situation why is he there i think they just didn't they give him two-year extension it's just not happening um what do you think about spencer rattler uh i no no okay all right good that good answer um panthers um wrapping this up guys can you believe adam thielen is still doing it yeah He's still doing it. He's out wrapping this up, guys.

Can you believe Adam Thielen is still doing it? Yeah. He's still doing it.
He's out there doing it. Oh, gosh.
I know this has been a bad pronunciation. Chuba Hubbard, right? Yeah.
No, it's Chuba. Chuba.
Yeah. Chuba Hubbard, not Chubba Hubbard.
Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard is is a must draft uh he just um he's next season if i'm still your manager not working with anyone else um i know in the past i've said we're old school we got to get some running backs in the first like three rounds uh we're gonna wait till rounds four five and six to get our running backs.
And Chuba falls right into that. Okay.
And my final take, I think Bryce Young is going to have a really good year. Okay, I like that.
That's it, guys. Yeah, so we're like Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy.
We're going to need some time, but you're not allowed to interview anywhere.

I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend, but it's a personal thing.

Yeah. Yeah.

We're going to block all interviews, but we're going to need some time to figure this out.

By the way, guys, I loved your take on that Jaguars hiring and saying like, hey, man,

anything goes. Yeah.
It's the's uh there are no friends yeah yeah weird guy though uh yeah all right so i have one last question for you jerry oh uh hold on a second yeah well no my last question might be what you're gonna do just hold on one second okay all right you all right you hold on hang on okay i'll hold, I got to tell you, I don't think you're seeing much leadership from me, and

I want to show you some-

Yeah, you're trying to strong R.O.S.

I like that.

I like that.

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Oh, he loves that show. Memes, memes, memes.
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You're the best. Me and B-Cat need to have some discussions offline.

So put a pin in it.

We'll circle back.

You've given us a lot to think about.

Yeah.

And, you know, I'll say this.

No matter which way we go in terms of the fantasy team,

I hope you feel the same way that we've enjoyed our time together.

And I look back at it and think of nothing but positives. Tell me to grab my playbook and go see coach? No, no, no, no, no, no.
But I just want you to know that there's no hard feelings when it comes to fantasy football. I got to thank my friends Richard and Ryan who helped me write that poem.
They're huge AWLs. The Sony exec? Don't say word it works shout out richard and ryan we're big fans i love you guys whatever you guys decide to do

i'll be okay with um you know maybe uh maybe bffs has a fantasy team that they want me to

yeah yeah not win a championship with

results results all right love you j. You're the best.
Third place. Come on.
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Okay, let's wrap up the show.

Guys on chicks with a wrinkle.

Guys on chicks about getting old because this is the last episode you'll be listening to with us in our 30s.

Yeah.

It's basically been, this show has been basically the entire decade of our 30s.

I've been worried about turning 40 since i turned 30 and then i was so worried when i turned 39 that i feel like now i'm not i've i'm already there i uh i'm in a i i definitely like starting to feel it uh just like physically i think I have plantar fasciitis, which sucks. Didn't even know my heel just hurts.
This is all self-diagnosed. I'm not going to see a doctor.
Uh, I think I'm just going to get a shitload more tattoos. Yeah.
I think that's just kind of how I'm going to deal with this. I'm not going to, I don't really have any other outs.
I was actually getting a little sentimental last night because I realized I've known you a little bit longer, but I met PFT for a birthday party for his 30th birthday. Yeah, for 10 years.
Yeah. On the dot.
Yeah. That is crazy.
Pounded Mad Dogs. Now we're drinking Malort.
We've said it on the show before. I have.
I know I have. And obviously I'm 30 now.
But I do remember like Big Cat was going crazy hard for his 30th birthday. And I was like, damn, he's 30.
He's still got it. He's old.

Don't got it anymore.

And now I'm older than that.

Yeah.

Also very funny because the first time Dave and PFT met, I think I said, I was like, this is PFT.

He's super talented.

He does the misspellings and he's joking how you do misspellings and stuff, but you're serious. He's joking.
And Dave was just like, what? I don't get it. We got to do it for 50 now, too.
What do you mean? Well, I'm saying now it's like every 10 years. Wait, but what are we doing for 40? Case race.
Oh, yeah. Case race.
Shit. We're taping this right before the case race.
I've been pretty hungover for the case race since. Oh, me too.
Anxiety going into it. I get real bad anxiety when I'm hungover.
Very, very bad. Yeah.
Tripling now. I used to be able to, yeah, until I was 34, wake up the next day, feel okay.
Now it's like, I have that hangover anxiety, but I had it on Monday for getting drunk on Tuesday night. I'm just happy.
The whole, the whole squad's in it. So Max, Hank, PFT, myself, myself, you can watch the Yak case race on Friday.
It'll be out, but we're taping it after we do this. And yeah, I'm miserable already about just thinking about it.
Although I did find out I have a steam shower. I've been living in my house for a year and a half.
Just figured this out. That's pretty cool.
Pretty cool. So I'm up tomorrow morning I'm going to hit the sauna Yeah It's going to be great I pressed the buttons I was like, does this do anything? And then steam just started coming out of my shower I got a question for you guys This is the richest shit ever I'm sorry, I'm sorry I have this sick feature in my house I didn't know for a year and a half I got a glory hole in my shower I got I got a worse one where when I moved into my house, my wife was like, do you like our house? Like, any complaints? Like, I wish there was another bathroom on the first floor.
And she's like, two's not enough? And I was like, where's the second? She's like, you idiot. When I moved in, I was like, yeah, what's this hole in my wall in the shower for? I just found out week you can come through it's pretty good uh i got a question for the young kids young kids on the show so the booth not you hank you're old um what is over the hill is over the hill 40 or is it 50 or is it 30 now that the internet like everybody online is under the age of 20 i thought i was about to go over over the hill.
30 was energy shift. 30 was like, I'm old now.
It's impossible to even, you know, go through the motions as I did. Because I've, you know, been going through what feels like the same motion since I was, you know, 18, 19.
Once you hit 30, it's like, I should be doing something else. Like, I'm over the hill.
Yeah. But I remember when I was growing up, I think 40 was over the hill.
and then I thought 50 might have been over the hill, but I think now 40 at least, maybe 30. I think, because I've thought about this way too much, and it's probably bad.
You're having kids change things, though. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm actually providing, and I have three things that are going to be my future, so it definitely changed my perspective.
But I've been thinking about it because I obviously get in my own head where I'm like, you know, someday people are just going to stop listening to us, but I love doing the show. I want to do it forever.
I think what I've come to grips with is PFT, you can follow me here. I think for the next, I think we still got it for about four or five years.
Then I think it's going to be a tough couple years where people just shit on us and then i think in our late 40s we're going to get funny again by saying stupid shit and forgetting it and people like but man they're so funny because they're so old and dumb we're a speed run to lee corso are yeah right right i think that will be our late 40s and also i get in my own head like we obviously have listeners of all ages and i appreciate all of them but it is crazy to think about like we've been doing this for so long like people have just gotten older with us i think one thing that we forget sometimes is when we started doing the show it wasn't just uh people that were younger than us that listen yeah right there's a lot of people that are older but they also all like if you were 25 when you started listening to this you're 34 now yeah i mean like that's that's a little comforting like people have grown up with us i just like the idea of a 70 year old out there when we turn 45 listening be like these guys are so out of touch yeah i still feel young i just 40 is definitely it's more the fact that i don't think i'm going to live much past 70, 75. So I'm past halfway.
That's, I guess, what it is.

That's what's that's what over the hill means that's what's fucking me up yeah where it's like i do the math and i'm like oh i'm on the i'm on the 11th hole can somebody that's where that's where i'm getting a little fucked up can someone explain to me give me something to look for What are some things that you get better at After you turn 40 I think the number one thing is giving less of a fuck That's the number one thing with age That is so much better Start dressing better But it's like I don't care I got kids, I got a good life I don't give a fuck Playing bingo Thanks Max Wait wait what did you say memes don't you guys have to get your finger up your ass now yeah memes actually like rooting for us to die it's it's crazy no i think he is i think that yeah the prostate check yeah i think they got technology down now where they can just do like a laser sick a laser up your ass no i think they just shoot a laser at your body and they're like, you're good or you're bad. I'm old school.
I also think that the nine is worse than the actual, like turning 29, turning 39 is worse than the actual. Well, if it's anything like turning 30, turning 30 I was scared about.
And then as soon as I was 30 or 31, I was like, I'm young again. Because everyone is in their late 30s and i'm in my early 30s since i've turned 30 or since i've turned 29 i've just been like oh i'm 30 yeah but like once i was 28 i was like oh yeah i'm in my 20s but then once you turn 29 it's like oh yeah i'm in my 30s and then once you actually turn 30 it's like oh yeah i've been in this mindset for a year yep yeah yep it hits and you're like it's exactly the same but we're gonna yeah i think we're gonna i think it's gonna suck for like a week and then we're like you know what fuck it and also you can you can just be like i can't go i i'm not going out so i'm not getting drunk i'm 40 i'm old yeah i still feel like i'm like we're gonna get a young we're to need a young buck.
I was thinking maybe I know I said 16 or 17 on Sunday show. I'm thinking more like 13.
Adopt a child. Let's adopt a child.
I want some 13 year old takes. All right.
Is being a football fan better when you get older or was it better when you were younger? Obviously you have gambling now,

but you had so much time to potentially win a Superbowl as a kid.

Is the year team winning a Superbowl window,

the male equivalent of a woman going through menopause or her eggs drying up.

Help me out here.

I just turned 27.

I think seven is the perfect age,

by the way.

Yeah.

I think we talked about this once before.

If you're a kid,

if you're like 10 years old winning titles,

it's like,

that's the center.

That's all you care about.

Like Hank,

you were saying that when you were a kid,

all you cared about was baseball,

right?

So, let's like that's the center. That's all you care about.
Like Hank, you were saying that when you were a kid, all you cared about was baseball. Right? That's got to be sweet if you're a kid.
If you're like in your 20s, you can party. You can celebrate.
You can like quit your job, essentially, if your team wins a Super Bowl. Because you're like, I'd kind of like to just get drunk for a month and celebrate.
In your 30s, I don't think it would be as fun. I the kids thing then comes back in yeah where like if you can if you have kids and you can share it with them that's cool too as someone who won a dynasty as a kid and a dynasty as an adult i would i would i would have to say the adult one was you were on joe mazullo's duck boat yeah well no i'm talking strictly dynasty yeah i know that was pretty cool.
You've got two – you're in different dynasty areas. Just become best friends with Joe Mazula.

When I was 12 and all I cared about was baseball,

the Red Sox had the greatest comeback in the history.

I got to win a Super Bowl this year.

You got to win a Super Bowl this year.

That was fun, too.

You got to win a Super Bowl this year.

It's tough.

It's a tough question.

I also think that if you're like 95, then it becomes great again.

Well, because they might do like a news story on you.

Yeah, and then you cry.

Yeah.

Max, you got to win a Super Bowl this year.

High school senior, end of senior year, Bruins won a Stanley Cup. Unforgettable.
Love the Bruins. Max, what's going to change about you if you win a Super Bowl this year? You're not winning a Super Bowl.
I'll be a winner. Yeah, like we won't be able to make fun of you the same way.
I know. It'll be great.
It'll be awesome. It'll be the best, but it's not going to happen.
God. It's just the same.
I just want to flash forward to Sunday. If I get another, I can't get another second place.
Are you going to let Hank just dump on you like this? Hank's got a future on the birds. He's a birds guy.
It's a donation. It was a one and a half point spread.
That's what I just keep telling myself. Then cash out, Hank.
It's a one-and-a-half point spread. Cash out and bet the Chiefs.
No, fuck that. Okay.
I want the birds, but I just know. Like, I just know.
Max, I know you've daydreamed about what's going to happen after the Super Bowl if you win and how happy you're going to be. Have you thought about the place you would be at if you lose? Yeah, I'm very familiar with that place.
thing it's not like it's going to be some something that i can't imagine i'm there i'm there like every 18 months so yes i i have thought about it and i know exactly what it's going to feel like and it's not going to be good okay Okay. Why is it that as I get older

and get into my first real job working around adults,

they care more about what I do with my outside life

than when I was in college?

Yeah.

I thought as you get older,

people care less about drama and petty things,

but it's the total opposite.

No, it's vicarious.

Well, yeah, the less you go out and have a social life,

then you just spend your time talking about other people.

Yeah, and they also get to lie about

what they used to do when they were younger.

So they hear you be like, oh, yeah, I went out

and I partied on Friday night.

They're like, yeah, I used to start Friday night

and Sunday night, sometimes some beers Monday morning

going into work.

They like to just exaggerate how much action they had

when they were your age.

Stanford Steven Rusillo had a very funny conversation

about this, about how they would go for the show

when they were doing it with SVP,

and SVP would always go back to to the hotel and they would go out and then svp the next day would just be like tell me everything that happened and i remember listening to that and being like oh man and i'm that guy i'm to go to the hotel and then just be like give me you don't really care though no i don't care as much like you're not you're not nosy or like just want to go to bed. Yeah.
More than anything. You're not gossipy.
No, because it's like I also can't keep track of anything. I always find out the gossip in the office.
Absolutely the last person, like the last person. I'm pretty sure the cleaning ladies find out the gossip before me.
At what age did you realize that you couldn't physically do the things you could do in your athletic prime because it feels like every time i throw a ball on of any kind i'm on the verge of throwing my arm out i'm just i'm like approaching my athletic prime are you yeah i thought your athletic prime was like 27 maybe yours i don't think it's like there's nothing i mean obviously there's a lot of shit i can't do when I do throw yeah that's definitely one where it's like if you throw like we had a mound out there for opening day last year and I threw as hard as I could like four times and I thought my arm was going to fall off I think for me it's more I notice it when we play pickup hoops on Friday and I just stand at the three point line and I'm just like I don't really want to go down low and get elbowed and bang around that's a big one i think this is more frontal lobe or whatever it's called but the skiing for me like i used to like skiing but i when i was a kid and younger and young adult i i had a very i have a very reckless ski style where i just bomb down the hill not a great stopper and it and it was always like, just go straight, and eventually you'll slow down. But speed was never a concern.
Now when I even think about skiing, I'm like, I don't want to do that. But I know how I ski and how I've always skied.
But it's like you can't be scared if you're going to do it like that. Here's the big one.
The big part of getting old, I've noticed for athletic stuff, is you're just way more conscious of getting injured yeah and you're scared yeah that's what you're explaining right now like i am so scared of getting injured because an injury at 40 versus an injury at 25 is so vastly different yeah so it's at this age you collect injuries so if you get injured that's going to be something that you deal with for pretty much the rest of your life yeah where you you break a leg and you're like well now my leg is never going to work the same ever whereas if you get injured when you're 25 yeah give me give me a month i'll be back i still hold out hope that someday i'm just gonna when i'm like not working as much maybe like start doing yoga and just get like just really flexible yoga's fucking impossible yeah so the real answer i want to go to that stretch lab place if you go on. Yeah.
Yeah. Wait.
Where they just stretch you? Yeah. Yeah.
My real answer to that question, though, was when I first had my back injury. Yeah.
When your back hurts for the first time, that's when you know way past your athletic prime. Kidney stones, too.
Yeah, kidney stones is a big one. Kidney stones is an old guy thing.
Yeah. When I was doing the kicking thing at the barststool bowl and all i had to do was make a 35 yard field goal and i was training for it i was kicking like 36 yards and two years ago i was kicking 45 yards at that point i was like it's never coming back also i'll say it uh just standing up for a really long time is just like i i want to sit i took 40 000 steps during the dart stream that one thing I didn't mention.
Wow. Thanks for mentioning it.
Beast. Also almost threw my arm out.
So I guess that's a sign too. Yeah.
Maybe athletic peak. What about the comments from the people calling you a pussy for saying that your arm hurt after throwing darts for 10 hours? Throw darts for 10 hours.
Tell me how your arm feels. And then if you still feel like I'm a pussy, I will accept it.
I'm going to defend the chat in this case, just that every time I watch someone else do something hard, I'm like, that's so easy. Yeah.
Your brain just says that. Like, if someone does, like, an eating challenge, I'm like, I could fucking do that.
And when you're sitting and watching. Like, if you sit and watch someone for two hours, you do nothing.
But if you're standing and doing something for two hours, it takes a toll. You get tired.
When Jerry did his first hole in one stream, I was like, how is he so sore? Swing a club 2,000 times and find out. But in your head, you're just like, this looks so easy.
Hey, Big Cat, PFT, Hank, and America's Team Max. Someone who recently graduated college college how do i figure out what will be my career when will i know also how come as soon as i finished college hangovers instantly became so much worse thanks for all that you guys do i'd love to throw my hat in the ring for your next intern looks like he wants a career yeah get ready buddy because the.
You should have hit us up five years ago before you entered college.

Yeah.

I mean, I think that's a very personal question depending on who you are.

Like how well you know when your job is the one that you want.

I think if you enjoy it, if you truly like it,

if you like thinking about it when you're not working there,

that's probably a pretty good sign.

Yeah, my only advice for someone like that is you have more time to figure it out than you think,

because I think there's a lot of pressure always when you graduate college especially because there's going to be a couple of your friends that go right into some high-paying job or or crushing it and you're like fuck i'm behind you can you can switch jobs and find try something new and and do different things you have you have you have time to fuck up. Yeah.
Not like fuck up, fuck up, but you have time to do something for a couple years and be like, you know what? This isn't for me. Yeah, you might have to take a step back, but that's where the time comes in.
Taking a step back when you're in your 20s is not as hard as taking a step back when you're in your 30s or 40s and you have kids and a family and a house and all that shit. Yeah, don't think because you're 25 years old that you have to be on the path for the rest of your life.
Pretty much you don't have to figure it out until you have kids. Because then you have to think about them more than you think about yourself.
Yeah. Would Robert De Niro say in heat never get so attached to something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds or less? That's how you should feel about your job until you're like 27.
Yeah, and Robert De Niro. Look at him

He's still having kids. Yeah, and she had a great ass

Okay, why is it so far away?

From the stream yesterday ah

Okay, I got no no. I got it.
He can still he can still do this Hank. I got it.
Yeah, you're trying to fucking that was a

Old man. Yeah, let me get that for you, sir

All right numbers 311 I got it Yeah you're trying to fucking That was an old man Yeah let me get that for you sir Alright Numbers Three Eleven Ninety nine Pogue Forty Ninety two What'd you guess last time Memes Three No no You guessed something else No I guessed three Was it eleven Who guessed eleven I always guessed eleven Fifty 59 for the Super Bowl. 44.
Take your time. 54.
Fuck that. Love you guys.
Was that the Super Bowl you won, Max?

No.

What was that?

52.

Oh.