NFL Conference Championship Sunday, Fastest 2 Minutes, Eagles Whomp The Commanders, The Chiefs are Inevitable + Who's Back of the Week

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Speaker 1 It is Championship Sunday recap. We have the NSC Championship game.
Max is heading to the Super Bowl. We have the AFC Championship game.
The Chiefs are back in the Super Bowl. We have a rematch.

Speaker 1 We're going to break down both games. We're also going to talk some coach hirings, some shocking news that happened since we last recorded.
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Speaker 1 Who's gonna lift the Lombardi trophy? Fumble, fumble, fumble.

Speaker 1 We start in Philadelphia where Saquon Charles Barkley was the round mound of touchdowns, opening the scoring after some terrible tackling by the commanders.

Speaker 1 And like my good friend Max, Saquon was obviously winded at the end of the runs, breathing heavily and having big pants.

Speaker 1 Also like Max, Saquon flew and popped twice up the giant gut and rolled into the end zone, zone, making Washington go belly up. The story of this game was turnovers, not the ones Max eats.
Fat.

Speaker 1 And much like Max in the bathtub, Washington,

Speaker 1 struggled to clean up their game. As the Eagles continued to pound the rock, they began to tip the scales and put up a huge number, Max.

Speaker 1 Ultimately, it was a great season for the Commanders, but much like Max, Washington fans have to admit, even though they took one on the chins, being a good football team was worth the huge wait.

Speaker 1 As for the Eagles, just like when Max has ice cream, they go for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 This is ridiculous. I'm trying to cheer up.
What the fuck? I'm trying to cheer up my friend PFT. This is pussy shit.

Speaker 1 I were losing this game, I wouldn't be doing all this. I'm trying to cheer up my friend PFT.
Boom, boom.

Speaker 7 Did you hear about the Washington Commanders

Speaker 7 the defensive players for the Commanders?

Speaker 1 When I told

Speaker 1 LBs. Oh, like when I told Max I was going to write this boomer, I said,

Speaker 1 I'm going to cheer up my good friend PFT. Let me finish it, Max.
As for the Eagles, just like when Max has ice cream, they go for the Super Bowl. We're also

Speaker 1 gonna be some on the body

Speaker 1 is my boomer. Eagles is 55, Commander is 23.
You played really well, Teach.

Speaker 1 Also, Boom,

Speaker 7 they're very excited about getting to the licks.

Speaker 1 We go to Kansas City for our annual coronation of Patrick Mahomes as the Bills come into town with a wagon circle.

Speaker 1 And after a quick three and out, the Chiefs get the the ball and proceed to march 90 yards with Kareem with me, Kareem for the year, Kareem for the laugh, Kareem for the tears.

Speaker 1 Hunt set Aerosmith Stadium ablaze. Buffalo responded to take the lead as Edgar James Almost Cook stood and delivered a score of his own.

Speaker 1 Xavier Tears Worthy had another Grande weekend, teaming up with Patrick Mahomes at a deep cut. And then Mahomes Rand went in for section celebrated with the worst attempted spike since Bill Crosby.

Speaker 1 But the Bills needed to cut it to a one-score game before halftime as Josh Allen dropped back, back, back, back, back, back, back, and found Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac.

Speaker 1 Hollins cutting this lead to five before the break. The second half started like the bachelor party that Max will be invited to, as the Bills kept rolling.
But the big man refused to get TD fucked.

Speaker 1 Buffalo did their best impression of Patrick Mahomes Sr. putting together another wild drive before blowing two points.

Speaker 1 This game was drunk, folks, and somehow Kansas City's offense stalled out, giving Buffalo Buffalo the ball back with the lead. Huh?

Speaker 1 And on fourth down, and a touching tribute to William Jefferson Clinton's penis, the Bills got a bad spot.

Speaker 1 Now the Chiefs have the ball, and Patrick Mahopenheimer said, Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds.

Speaker 1 And Buffalo ties it up, and Harrison, I like Big Buckers, responds by turning into Sir Kicks a lot, splitting the uprights like a thong.

Speaker 1 And now the Bills took a shot down field on fourth down, and Dalton, next of kin, Cade, has been notified that their season is once again dead. And when they die, they die nasty.

Speaker 1 As the Chiefs look to make it three Super Bowl championships in a row, winning 32 to 29.

Speaker 1 And that was Fastest Two Minutes.

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Speaker 1 championship Sunday Sunday in the books. Super Bowl 59 is set.

Speaker 1 Eagles versus Chiefs. Rematch of Super Bowl 57, but we got to talk about the games first.
And then we'll do some early thoughts on the Super Bowl. Let's start with Eagles 55, Commanders 23,

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 7 I got to take some medicine. That sucked.
I got to take some medicine.

Speaker 7 We got our ass kicked. It was an ass kicking.

Speaker 7 The fumbles really what caused the game to be such a blowout, but it didn't really feel like I got bad vibes from that first defensive snap of the game when Saquon Barkley was one of my key to the games.

Speaker 7 It was not letting Saquon Barkley score long touchdowns. Yeah.
And he scored a long touchdown right when he got the ball. The defense played pretty poorly today.
Offense with the fumbles.

Speaker 7 It was an ass kicking.

Speaker 7 And I will admit that it was easier to come back against Kenny Pickett when we're down a similar amount. That was in the game.
That was easy. He got in the game late.

Speaker 7 It was easier to come back against him in that offense. Jalen Hurts played awesome today.
He played really, really good. Saquon Barkley is a beast.

Speaker 7 Dickerson is a tough motherfucker. Cam Juergens, tough motherfucker on their offensive line.

Speaker 7 Credit to them.

Speaker 7 I hear a lot of people talking about big picture.

Speaker 7 That's the words of comfort that people are giving to me right now. It's like, well, think about the big picture.
I don't want to think about the big picture right now.

Speaker 7 The big picture, who cares about the big picture?

Speaker 7 I'm standing too close to the painting to worry about the big picture big picture that's that's a conversation for another day it's offseason like i just watched friday night lights yesterday the movie big picture yeah you could say billings lee has a cool ass dad that loves to party big picture booby miles has twins that he loves very much i don't care about big i care about what happened today and what happened today was an ass kicking we're very close to the super bowl one game away but then once that game started it did not feel like we were very close to the super bowl yeah um jaden played awesome i thought he played great uh we're not counting that last interception.

Speaker 7 You actually said it before.

Speaker 1 You're like, we're not counting these. If he throws a pick on this last drive, it doesn't count.
I agree with that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 It counts for Quinny Mitchell. That was a great interception by him, but that doesn't go against Jaden's stats in my book.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was just, it was an ass kicking. The offense moved the ball pretty good, but when we did move the ball, we'd give it up on a fumble.

Speaker 7 The fourth downs were looking good, too, right off the bat.

Speaker 7 That initial drive that we took down the field, we only came away with three, but it felt like a good drive to set the tone, hang on to the football, control the clock, just manage it, take what they give you.

Speaker 7 And,

Speaker 7 you know, then the Eagles went up, and then it felt like we were never really in a position where it felt like it could be real. Yeah.
So it sucks. It sucks to lose.

Speaker 7 This is like, this is a new feeling for me because

Speaker 7 it sucks to lose a lot of games, but it also does suck to be close to going to a Super Bowl and then losing that because nothing is guaranteed.

Speaker 7 Dan Marino got to a Super Bowl his second year and he's like, I'll be back to plenty of these. Not necessarily the case.

Speaker 7 I think he made it back to two AFC championship games after that and lost both of those. So when you're this close, it sucks.
But that said, I do realize that we've got a great quarterback.

Speaker 7 We've got, in my opinion, a great head coach for this moment. And Adam Peters, a great GM.
And also, I will admit that Max was right when I didn't say, shut the fuck up, Hank. When I didn't say fuck.

Speaker 1 He was. I think we all knew that.
I think the wind horse fingers. Yeah.
We knew by your reaction reaction that

Speaker 1 it was probably true.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so my offseason, I'm trying to figure out levels of cope.

Speaker 7 Levels of cope after this game, I'm not going to stoop to the levels of certain people. I'm not going to just say I blame the refs.
I saw a lot of that going on.

Speaker 7 A lot of the Eagles are 7-0 when Sean Hockey refs their games. We got our ass kicked.
They hung 55 points on us.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to blame that on the refs.

Speaker 1 Conference championship record.

Speaker 7 Conference championship record. Also tied the most rushing touchdowns.
Yeah, it was bad. It was an ass kicking.
It was an ass kicking across the board. Our defense didn't play well at all.

Speaker 7 Lattimore didn't play well. Mike Sandristil didn't play well.

Speaker 7 Nobody, I mean, maybe Jonathan Allen had a decent game. It was just bad.

Speaker 7 It was a bad thing to experience. But,

Speaker 7 you know, maybe we'll get better. My offseason is going to be spent just scouring top 10 quarterback lists.
I think that's how I'll cope.

Speaker 7 And if I'm dissatisfied with where people put Jaden Daniels, I'll get really mad at that. I feel like that's something I'm going to be focusing in on.

Speaker 1 That's a good use of your energy.

Speaker 7 Also, great performance by Max today. Sitting next to him on the couch, he spat on me like seven times accidentally, hit me in my eyeball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That one was Roan.

Speaker 1 That one was Roan.

Speaker 7 It was hell. It was hell sending me to the bottom.

Speaker 1 Similar to Jalen Carter.

Speaker 7 Similar to him. Very similar.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I actually think Max, I wrote down in his note, like, you should get to poke Max in the eye. Yeah.
Listen. Like, he should come in here right now and you should poke him directly in the eye.

Speaker 7 I wish he had hit me in both eyes so I didn't have to see the ass kicking.

Speaker 7 It's very rare that you can see yourself getting your ass kicked.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a tough game for the commanders. I mean, the four turnovers or three turnovers or three fumbles were very bad, but I don't think that it was.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they're significant, but also the Eagles' offense was just running down your throat, and Jalen Hurts was awesome.

Speaker 1 The game, I feel like, came down to that fourth and five shot play to A.J. Brown because that was, I think, a 20-12 game

Speaker 1 at the time. And he makes that throw perfect throw.
And he was doing everything. Saquon was doing everything.

Speaker 1 And the Eagles' defense is fucking good because it's as much as Jaden played well, it also, everything was more difficult for the commanders. Even that first drive, it was like 14 plays.

Speaker 1 You got three. And you did that a few times where it's like you get three instead of seven.
And you just can't do that against a team. like the Eagles with the way they were playing on offense.

Speaker 7 It was way more difficult for us when we had the ball for sure. And yeah, the turnovers sucked.

Speaker 7 No, the turnovers were very significant, but also at the same time, they turned those turnovers into touchdowns. Right.
And that's what made it so difficult to come back from. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And so, yeah, at least we still have the hard rock.

Speaker 1 You still have the hard rock.

Speaker 7 That's commanders' territory.

Speaker 1 Can you play

Speaker 1 that guy's video? So for people who missed it,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Commander fan meetup at the Hard Rock in Philly last night.

Speaker 7 Philly, iconic space in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Yes, everyone knows I saw a lot of Philly people being like, I don't even know where the fuck this is, but the Hard Rock has fallen.

Speaker 1 And this guy's speech was so funny because it really was like what I would imagine

Speaker 1 they said once they stormed the beaches of Normandy and they finally got like the,

Speaker 1 you know, they got control of France. They entered into France.
This is almost exactly what it was like when they got the hard rock last night. All right, play it.

Speaker 1 For coming out here tonight and fucking represent it.

Speaker 1 We took over the the place.

Speaker 1 The hard rock has fallen.

Speaker 9 We wanted to have a safe space for all of us to be tonight, and that's what we did. I love each and every one of you guys.
Seriously.

Speaker 1 We came out to make. Do me a favor.

Speaker 9 You take care of all these people at the hard rock.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good guy. I love it.

Speaker 1 He does seem like a genuinely good guy. And it's more just

Speaker 1 the funniness is more just the fact that it was the hard rock.

Speaker 1 And they're like,

Speaker 1 we came out here to accomplish

Speaker 1 getting, you know,

Speaker 1 50 simultaneous reservations at the Hard Rock.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Open Table. We did it.

Speaker 7 That guy sounds a lot like Obama. It's not Obama.
He's like, good evening.

Speaker 7 Tonight I can report to the American people, to the world, that the Washington Commanders have conducted an operation that... fully compromised the Hard Rock Cafe.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Were they giving him shit on the way out? What were they saying?

Speaker 1 Great tailgate at the Hard Rock.

Speaker 1 The Hard Rock, the Rocky Steps.

Speaker 7 This is what you think about.

Speaker 1 It's so funny that it was a Hard Rock Cafe.

Speaker 1 They went for the weakness.

Speaker 1 They figured out that if Philadelphia has one weakness, it's that you can probably get

Speaker 1 a shitload of reservations on a Saturday night before the NFC Championship game at the hard rock.

Speaker 7 At the hard rock town, that's the one, yeah, that's the one area of weakness that you guys have.

Speaker 7 That speech probably happens across America before every football game, every weekend, like opposing fans come into town.

Speaker 7 This guy was just unfortunate enough that it was videotaped and put out there as like a motivational thing.

Speaker 1 Then it was 55-23. Yeah, it's, I like to imagine, like,

Speaker 1 what's the guy's name? Tailgate something. He had it on his back.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 I like to imagine this guy this week, like, sitting around, Tailgate Teddy, I think, sitting around with like war maps out, being like, should we go for the Applebees?

Speaker 1 What about the Chilis? No, sir. We've done some advanced scouting and the Hard Rock is weak.
We can get into the Hard Rock.

Speaker 7 I've seen some vulnerabilities.

Speaker 1 We can take over the Hard Rock. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we've scouted it out.

Speaker 1 We've had advanced scouts at the Hard Rock all week,

Speaker 1 you know, testing their patterns and everything.

Speaker 7 i love that because for a moment when i felt like the commanders might win the game right basically right after kickoff yeah uh i just thought about how that hard rock will always forever be known as a washington commanders watering hole and it'll just be like

Speaker 7 a place that you have to you have to make a trip to whenever you're in philly like it's mecca but yeah listen i no excuses it was an ass kicking we got a a rental defense full of a bunch of one-year guys.

Speaker 7 It's going to be a different team next year. They were playing better than they did at the start of the year, but yeah, the defense was not good today.

Speaker 7 It's tough.

Speaker 1 Before we talk about the Eagles and let Max bathe in the glory here, I also want to say shout out Frankie Louvu for letting us all know that a rule exists that I didn't know existed until today.

Speaker 1 It's called the Palpably Unfair Act. And apparently,

Speaker 1 if you just do this, if you intentionally get a penalty over and over, the ref can just award a touchdown to the other team.

Speaker 1 So there was a moment in the third quarter, I believe, where the Eagles were on the goal line and they were trying to tush-push, and Frankie Luvu kept on jumping over the line, trying to tackle Jalen Hurts and getting an offsides penalty.

Speaker 1 And the ref said, this is a warning for a palpably unfair act. And if they continue to do it, we will award the Eagles a touchdown.
I had no idea. Florio obviously was all over it.

Speaker 1 I guess it's been a rule since 1942.

Speaker 7 It's so like if Mike Tomlin had stepped onto the field and tackled the Ravens returner on his way into the end zone, then you could award it. Like in rugby, they have it.
It's called a penalty try.

Speaker 7 They do actually a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he also noted like there was a game maybe last year where a team was jumping off sides over and over for a field goal try. Yeah.
So they could just give you the points, which I had no idea.

Speaker 1 That's kind of

Speaker 1 crazy the ref could just say that.

Speaker 7 I kind of wish they had just ruled it a touchdown because if they had ruled it a touchdown, then I could be like, the fucking refs gave you guys six points.

Speaker 1 Stay woke. Stay woke.

Speaker 1 They obviously

Speaker 1 basically educated America on the palpably unfair act rule right before they use it for the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Yeah, good call.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're going to use it for the Chiefs, and we're all going to be like, wait, oh, yeah, that is a rule. It's been around since 1942.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you're going to look at the guy that's next to you at the Super Bowl party that doesn't know the palpably unfair rule. That's a rule I wish I could hear John Madden pronounce.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be great.

Speaker 1 It's an act. It's not even a rule.
It's an act. It's a palpably unfair act.
That was what Frankie Louvu was doing.

Speaker 7 I would also like to announce that this game, I will not allow it to turn me into an anti-tush push guy. Okay.
Because

Speaker 7 the tush push, it's a play. It's a football play.
If you want to stop it, then stop it. Don't stop it by taking out.
You can run it too. Like anybody can do it.

Speaker 7 I saw a lot of people that were pissed off about the tush push. We didn't lose the game because of the tush push.
We didn't lose the game because of the referees.

Speaker 7 We lost the game because Philadelphia played very, very good on defense, and they played excellently on offense. Hurts had an incredible game today, and that throw to A.J.

Speaker 7 Brown that kind of felt like it stopped whatever momentum that we had. Yeah.
It was a perfect throw.

Speaker 1 It was a perfect throw. And yeah, Vic Fangio is an incredible defensive coordinator.
It was very clear from the jump that their entire game plan was, let's just take away, we're going to take away

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels' first read and make him go through his progressions, which he's able to do, obviously.

Speaker 1 But you could see the explosiveness wasn't there for the Washington offense because it was a lot of shorter passes that, you know, you had to go 14-play drive to get three.

Speaker 1 And Vic Fangio is just, I mean, he's a great defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 And, you know, dialing up blitzes when he had to, they were able to keep, like, they played really sound defense in keeping Jaden Daniels in the pocket as well.

Speaker 1 Like, it didn't feel like he had, he had a couple of those big runs. There was one that I can really think of.

Speaker 1 But for the most part, they did a really good job of making sure that he wasn't able to just completely gash him with his legs.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they did a very good job. And congrats, Max.

Speaker 7 Congrats, Hank. Hank, how do you feel? Your birds are going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 You actually, I think, were the closest to having the correct score. Yeah.
Yet it is a blowout.

Speaker 4 I thought it was going to be a blowout. It was a blowout.

Speaker 4 I feel good. I don't feel as good after the Chiefs win.
I kind of just stuck in between a rock and a hard place. But,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 if it wasn't for the fumbles, it could have been a closer game. I don't think the commanders played as badly as you're kind of saying, PFT, but the fumbles made it impossible to win.

Speaker 1 No, our commanders need to play.

Speaker 1 Their defense played awful. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 seven rushing touchdowns is pretty hard to come back for.

Speaker 7 And a lot of bad penalties that gave them the ball and scoring position. So it was, yeah, the defense played very poor.
I don't think the offense played bad at all.

Speaker 7 I give the offense a B grade.

Speaker 1 The Eagles went 230 passing, 229 rushing. I mean,

Speaker 1 that's as sound of a game as you can possibly have. 459 total yards.
And it did feel like whenever they had the ball, they were just going to go right down the field. Max,

Speaker 1 I have some things to say about Nick Siriani. Would you like to hear them? I would love to hear them.
Okay, so Nick Siriani,

Speaker 1 as a head coach, this is his fourth season. He's the first head coach to win the NFC two out of his first four years in the last 40 years.
No other coach has done that. He's 48 and 20

Speaker 1 all time, which is the highest winning percentage of any active head coach, 706 winning percentage. He's 5-3 in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 He's made the playoffs all four years. People obviously be like, well, he's had a super team.
I mean, the first year, they were 9-8. They weren't a super team.

Speaker 1 Like, he went to the Super Bowl his second year. Last year, it felt like everything was kind of falling apart at the end of the season.
Comes into this year since September.

Speaker 1 They have not lost the game that

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts started and finished and was healthy since September 29th. So that's a long-ass time.
I think that was week four against the Bucs.

Speaker 1 And he's done all of this while being like maybe having a mental issue and very Italian.

Speaker 2 No mental issue. That was an unnecessary.

Speaker 1 He's a little crazy.

Speaker 7 You tried to run him out of town last year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a little emotionally unstable. I'm saying, this is all credit to him.

Speaker 1 And he's coaching Italian. Coaching Italian, that's a hard thing to do.

Speaker 1 You're a fiery guy.

Speaker 2 No, yeah, that's a positive. Coaching Italian is a good thing.

Speaker 1 But it can also be a negative sometimes.

Speaker 2 Vince Lombardi?

Speaker 1 Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 Ever heard of him? Coaching Italian is hard to do.

Speaker 1 You're thinking of other Italians.

Speaker 2 Steve Spagnolo.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great head coach. Great head coach.

Speaker 2 Great coordinator.

Speaker 1 I would say coaching Italian is difficult. This credit to Siriani.
Yep. He's coaching very Italian.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, he's good.

Speaker 1 He's great. All right.
So, yeah, Siriani has proven that he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. It is crazy that I think at the beginning of this season, he was on a hot seat.

Speaker 1 But with the way last year ended, it's not like there's there's still some context, but he completely rebounded off of the debacle of the end of last season. This team is really fucking good.

Speaker 1 And like I said, they haven't lost a game with Jalen Hurts Healthy since September 29th. And they're going to another Super Bowl, two out of his first four years as a head coach.

Speaker 1 He's an awesome, awesome head coach, and he deserves a lot of credit. And Jalen Hurts deserves a lot of credit too, because

Speaker 1 he has had games where it hasn't looked pretty. This is another big game where he came up big and he was awesome today with his legs.
And, I mean, he's injured and he was throwing the ball well. And

Speaker 1 if you're going to say, like, Jalen Hurts isn't a good QB, then you have to give more credit to Nick Siriani, right?

Speaker 1 You can't have it both ways. I'm talking about the haters.

Speaker 2 I don't think the haters can say anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the haters can't say anything, but I'm just pointing out that, like, if your argument is Jalen Hurts is not, is, like, not great, it's like, well, then Nick Siriani is the best coach ever.

Speaker 1 Or Jalen Hurts is really good, and Nick Siriani is also really good, which is what I believe.

Speaker 2 no i mean

Speaker 1 jalen hurts uh i i i knew he was gonna have a good game today he always does that why are you mad about that yeah he's angry at the at the haters i am angry at the haters i have a list of the haters oh yeah you i told you make make sure you compile a list you know what we should do at the super we should make max available for media interviews yeah like if if other if other shows want to interview max yes we'll we'll screen him yep but we'll i won't do a good job he can go on any show yep i won't do a good job with that those okay i I want you going up and down Radio Row.

Speaker 1 Yeah, put him on Radio Row. Yeah.
Don't take it.

Speaker 2 I have six people on my bad list, and then two people are on a good list.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 I do have two good.

Speaker 1 Hank? Hank? Hank's looking to. Yeah, while you're doing the thing.

Speaker 1 He wants to be on the good list.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 Hank can be on the good list. So that's three people.
I'll add Hank to the good list.

Speaker 1 Okay. I also don't have.

Speaker 2 There's no references here. It was just

Speaker 2 I was throughout the week going through Twitter and watching different things and then just putting people on name on the list. I don't remember what any of them said.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 So don't ask me that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 Bad list. Mike Greenberg.

Speaker 1 What'd he say?

Speaker 2 Don't know.

Speaker 1 Chris Sims.

Speaker 2 Chris Sims said a lot of shit.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 2 Chase Daniel.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Co-host of Diana Rossini, I think.

Speaker 1 Right? Yep. Yep.
Yes.

Speaker 7 That's the name of the podcast.

Speaker 7 It's called Diana Rossini.

Speaker 1 No, it's actually just called co-host of Diana Rossini.

Speaker 2 Alex Smith,

Speaker 1 Ben Kurt,

Speaker 1 and Nick Wright. Okay.
All bad. All bad.
Good.

Speaker 2 Dan Orlovsky. Yep.

Speaker 2 He told everyone there are pieces of shit for saying that Jalen Hurts stinks. And he said that Joe Durturs.

Speaker 7 He didn't say shit, though. He said

Speaker 7 pieces of turd.

Speaker 2 I don't think. Yeah, he basically just said that Jalen Durtz was good.
And Craig Carton. Craig Carton also was backing up the Eagles.
So those are my two good guy lists and my six bad guy lists.

Speaker 2 I don't know any of the context for any of these people, but that's.

Speaker 7 I get it. I get it.
They probably said something like, I don't know if Jalen Hurts has what it takes to win this football game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 Oh, there's a lot of Jalen Hurts is not a Super Bowl winning quarterback, which really pissed me off.

Speaker 1 Well, he's not. Not yet.
Well, he got let out today.

Speaker 7 He said Sirianni finally let me out. Yeah, let him off the league.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, I mean, he was

Speaker 1 last week.

Speaker 2 Last week was a snow game. It's hard for any quarterback to be good in a snow game, and he was hurt.
And now he's got a little confidence. We're going back to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 He had his best game of his career against Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. He's got to do it again.

Speaker 1 Okay, so talk to us about the game. I mean, mean,

Speaker 1 you almost passed out watching this game.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 2 That was like a big wake-up moment in that game.

Speaker 7 This is a positive pass-out.

Speaker 1 Some people are saying that

Speaker 7 what was the pass-out play?

Speaker 1 It was the fumble on the kickoff. He got up too fast and got

Speaker 1 screamed and then spit on PFT and then held his head because he was like, oh my God, I almost passed out. Some people are saying you don't go all the way because

Speaker 1 the Eagles players are out there blood and guts, puking, just trying their hardest, and you're worried about passing out.

Speaker 2 I was very close to passing out.

Speaker 1 You should have just passed out.

Speaker 2 I was very close to passing out.

Speaker 2 Mom, I know you're listening to this. I'm going to work on it.
I'm sorry because she's definitely going to be very upset

Speaker 2 that I almost passed out.

Speaker 7 She's going to wish you had passed out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Were any of the things I said in the boomers true?

Speaker 2 I know. Okay.

Speaker 7 Correct. Max, you get a dog to live for now.
You can't pass out.

Speaker 1 Great, great dog.

Speaker 1 Noah.

Speaker 1 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 Nola.

Speaker 1 Nola was the name Breaking News.

Speaker 2 Nola was the given name.

Speaker 7 I was really hoping that dog was going to be a jinx, that he got a dog named Nola two days before

Speaker 7 the game to send you to Nola.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no,

Speaker 2 that was bizarre.

Speaker 4 Wait, so you got a dog?

Speaker 2 I did get a dog. So for the haters that say I hate dogs.

Speaker 1 Is she okay?

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Speaker 1 All right, so you got a dog, Noah from Paws. Shout out, Paws.

Speaker 2 Shout out, Paws. Pause made it very easy.
It was a very good

Speaker 2 interaction. They brought me in the dog and made it seamless.
Got me in and out the door really quickly.

Speaker 1 Also, I just want to say Paws does do screening. So

Speaker 1 they did screen Max before. I know that people are going to be like, what kind of operation is Paws if they're letting Max walk out with the dog?

Speaker 1 They called me and they asked for, like, they basically talked to me for 30 minutes about the history of Max.

Speaker 7 Yeah, well, I mean, you look at the Philadelphia Eagles jersey, you think Michael Vick, not sure if this guy needs a dog right now.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so they vetted him. And I had to, I think I had to sign, I had to sign something on your behalf.

Speaker 1 This is all a lie. It's a very cute dog.
It's a cute dog, Max. It's going to be a great dog owner.

Speaker 2 I'm excited.

Speaker 4 Going into the game,

Speaker 4 PFT had a better hype video

Speaker 4 and and Max was like, I haven't slept. I've had a bad weekend because of this dog.
I was worried on that.

Speaker 2 That's not sure I had a good weekend because of the dog, but I had a bad dog.

Speaker 4 You said, like, I haven't slept. My sleep schedule is fucked, and this dog is ruined.

Speaker 2 The reason I haven't slept

Speaker 7 is the dart stream.

Speaker 4 And the dog.

Speaker 1 Nola. Were you nervous about getting a dog named Nola the dog before?

Speaker 2 I was very nervous about that.

Speaker 1 What is the dog? So the dog's name is not Nola anymore?

Speaker 2 The dog's name is Billy.

Speaker 1 Oh, like football.

Speaker 1 Kind of like football.

Speaker 2 Nope, she's a good dog. We went through.

Speaker 2 We've been looking at Paul's for me and my girlfriend have been looking at Paul's for a really long time, and we finally found a dog that we were,

Speaker 2 not finally, but

Speaker 2 we found a dog that we were really excited about, and we jumped on it. And it happened to be that her name was Nola.

Speaker 1 You jumped on the dog?

Speaker 2 We jumped on the opportunity to get the dog.

Speaker 7 It would have been so good, though, if you had lost this game and your dog's name. I would have just called that dog Nola for forever.

Speaker 1 But you didn't. If you win the Super Bowl, I think it's got to go back to NOAA.

Speaker 2 We can't keep going back and forth. I thought about it, but we can't keep going back and forth.

Speaker 1 All right, so back to the game. Congrats on the dog.
Very cute dog. Also, everyone go get a dog from Paws Chicago.

Speaker 2 Any Chicago dog trainers out there, hit me up. I got to train this dog.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Okay. Congratulations, Max.

Speaker 1 The game, Max?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, the game was great. There's not really much more I can say.
Jalen Hurst was fantastic.

Speaker 2 Saquon Barkley is the best player in the NFL, and I think that he's he's going to change the running back market because it shows that we're going back into a

Speaker 2 play of game where running the football matters and you can win running because there was that stat that was going on for forever.

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 2 we still don't know that stat.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, because you didn't win the Super Bowl yet.

Speaker 2 I know, but Saquon Barkley is a piece that

Speaker 2 this team is not where they are right now without Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 7 Okay, Max, I fully acknowledge that. Saquon Barkley is probably the best running back in the NFL.
Him and Derrick Henry, I would say Saquon's probably a little bit better.

Speaker 7 I'm pissed off at the Giants, the Giants for letting you guys have him. That sucks for me.

Speaker 7 But when you say he's going to change the way that we look at running backs and signing running backs, the free agents this offseason, Aaron Jones, pretty good player, Najee Harris, Jeff Wilson, A.J.

Speaker 7 Dillon, Nick Chubb, off an injury. I don't know if any of those guys are worth it.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to say immediately, but like going forward, like if Bijan, like Saquon Barkley is getting paid less than Gabe Davis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I mean Saquon barkley but does he doesn't grow on trees but like i'm saying like bichon's next contract yeah yeah like he's going to get more than the top running back was getting this past offseason and it was all it's also like the eagles played it perfectly because i i don't i still don't think that you should pay a running back a ton of money if you're not a team ready to compete for a super bowl the eagles were a loaded roster and adding Saquon Barkley just makes them that much better.

Speaker 1 Whereas if you added Saquon Barkley to the Giants, the Giants aren't going to the playoffs. True.
So it's more like teams that are on the precipice, like, that's a

Speaker 1 perfect signing, but he's a beast. The Eagles are just really fucking good.
And we said it on Friday, like, they're better at pretty much every position than the Commanders. And that showed today.

Speaker 1 Like, their defensive line got a great push. Their offensive line, even though there's injuries,

Speaker 1 was very good, kept Jalen Hurts relatively clean. A.J.
Brown and Devontae Smith are still difference makers. Dallas Goddard, one of the most underrated tight ends.
He needs more credit.

Speaker 1 Dallas Goddard's a beast. He was an absolute monster.

Speaker 1 And he actually,

Speaker 1 the biggest, one of the biggest plays in the first half that felt like a pretty consequential play was when they didn't have Dallas Goddard on the field and Calcaterra wasn't able to pick up the blitz and they got a huge, the commanders got a huge sack.

Speaker 1 And that was like the moment where it was like, oh, shit, are the commanders going to be back in this game? But yeah, the Eagles are just an all-around really, really good team.

Speaker 7 Speaking of huge sacks, that was a great fake punt that Dan Quinn called.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It was awesome.

Speaker 7 And when I said that we have a better punter, Tress Way can also throw the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But that was also one of those, you're down, what, 14 to three at the time, I think. Yeah.
It's like, you got it, you got to try something. You got to, you got to put your nuts on the table.

Speaker 7 And it was a great play, but it never felt sustainable what the commanders were doing. Yeah.
It just didn't. We got behind and we kind of stayed behind.

Speaker 7 Great touchdown, catch, and run by Terry McLaurin. I'm so glad he's a commander.
I'm so glad I get to root for guys like Terry and guys like Jaden.

Speaker 7 But still,

Speaker 7 I don't want to think big picture. A lot of people are going to be sending me big picture wishes.
I appreciate the wishes, but

Speaker 7 I don't want to think about the big picture right now. Just let me be very sad and upset in this small little microscopic.
I'm looking at the season with an electron microscope right now. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Play-by-play for today.

Speaker 1 I think that's the correct way to do it. The big picture is an off-season thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's an off-season

Speaker 1 thought exercise that you'll be able to do for the next seven months. Right now, you got your ass kicked in the NFC championship game.
That sucks.

Speaker 7 I promise you, I will be moved on to big picture by next week.

Speaker 7 Maybe not. No,

Speaker 1 I'm going to make sure that there's no way when we're

Speaker 1 the Super Bowl. Yeah, when we're in New Orleans and Max is living his best life and wearing ridiculous pants.

Speaker 7 I'm going to gumbo my way out of it. I'm going to gumbo my way out of thinking small.
I believe in you.

Speaker 1 I believe in you.

Speaker 1 Max, yeah, that was, that had to be been like one of the most enjoyable games, though, for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, it was great.

Speaker 2 It still was stressful. You know, I was saying stupid shit at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Max said when the Eagles were up, I believe they were up 25 with six minutes left. Max said this is still going to end up being ending a one-score game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we had to explain to him, we're like, there's six minutes left. The best gate, like, if they score 17 points, they're down eight.

Speaker 1 And they, that would mean they had three possessions in the last six minutes.

Speaker 7 Well, we work at a company where it's like you realize that you have to go out of your way not to say anything that could be ever interpreted as a jinx.

Speaker 7 So if you're up, you don't say things like, great win before the game's over. You don't count your chickens.
And that was White Sox Dave, by the way.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nice job, White Sox. No, he said, I'll never apologize for a win.

Speaker 7 I'll never apologize for a win.

Speaker 7 But Max has learned to not touch these third rails because he's gotten shocked so many times that now he's just, he's not even going down to the subway station.

Speaker 2 I still graze those rails.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he said we want the commies before he even played the Rams.

Speaker 7 That's true. But in his defense, he was drunk.
Yeah, he was drunk. It was a Saturday night.

Speaker 1 Max, also, shout out Roan.

Speaker 1 He surprised everyone. He texted me yesterday.
He's like, I'm going to be there.

Speaker 1 Don't tell anyone. He walked in.

Speaker 1 You could tell that

Speaker 1 that was tough for you.

Speaker 7 It was tough. And hey, I got to put my hand up.

Speaker 1 It's a weapon.

Speaker 7 I got to put my hand up, too, and say,

Speaker 7 I didn't show enough fight either. I don't know.
I got to learn how to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 It's a process.

Speaker 1 It was ass kicking, though, Max. You got to feel good.
and you're going back to the Super Bowl. You've got to get redemption against the Kansas City Chiefs.
And not to put pressure on you, Max, but

Speaker 1 have you had the moment to realize what's at stake here in terms of you and this podcast? And if we have to have another losing Max second place

Speaker 7 situation,

Speaker 2 that's going to be bad. I mean, that's...

Speaker 1 You would love that. No, I don't want that.
I have a future on the Eagles. But

Speaker 2 as far as for this podcast,

Speaker 1 it would be good for numbers.

Speaker 2 You would love to see me lose.

Speaker 7 Just in terms of numbers, I think people want to see Sad Max in the pants. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying me. They've seen it in the middle.
Oh, but Chiefs. I know.
I'm rooting for the Eagles. If it was the Bills, it would be a whole lot of it.

Speaker 1 If it was the Bills, I would have cashed out and I would have been Josh Allen in your face the whole time.

Speaker 4 Let's mix it up. Let's get some happy Max celebratory messages.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't have anything financially at stake here, do you?

Speaker 2 Or legacy stake.

Speaker 7 Oh, legacy.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'm thinking about the fans and what they want.

Speaker 7 Big legacy stake.

Speaker 1 And they want to see Max win.

Speaker 7 I don't like that memes has weaponized the Max picture, and even when Max wins, he just puts somebody else's face on Max. Yeah.
And then it's also a reminder of that time that Max lost.

Speaker 7 I don't think that's fair to Max. Yeah, he put your face on you.

Speaker 1 That was you, bro.

Speaker 7 I don't think that's fair to Max. It was you.

Speaker 7 It was me. It was my face.
You'll deal with the beard.

Speaker 1 It's just a great sound. That's a second one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, you have to get waxed now, too.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's right.

Speaker 7 I forgot about the wax, too. Shit.
I'll get waxed and NOLA.

Speaker 1 How about that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that'll be tough.

Speaker 1 Max, have you texted Big Dom yet?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 I texted him on your behalf. No, already? Yeah, I said, no, I didn't say anything about the...
I just said, congrats, see you in Nola with the Eagle.

Speaker 1 emoji and the Italian flag and he just wrote back thanks Paisan see you there Italian flag he thinks I'm Italian which is fine

Speaker 1 Italian father. Italian father.
Yeah, Italian father. Max, this is the fifth time in Super Bowl history we're going to have a rematch of coaches in the big game.

Speaker 1 The losing coach has lost all four of the rematches.

Speaker 2 You were telling me stats last week, though.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you that. So

Speaker 1 Chuck Noel over Tom Landry,

Speaker 1 Jimmy Johnson over Marv Levy, Coughlin over Bill Belichick, and Andy Reid over Shanahan. And this will be Andy Reid versus Nick Siriani 2.

Speaker 1 So each time,

Speaker 1 the winning coach the first time won the second time as well.

Speaker 4 Eagles win rematches, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 And we're goat killers.

Speaker 1 Chiefs also win rematches.

Speaker 1 Shit. Do they? Sure.
Well, they figured out

Speaker 1 before.

Speaker 1 They win the first one, too.

Speaker 1 And then they win the rematch.

Speaker 1 They win everything. They also rematch.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They somehow win everything.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Chiefs like to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so anything else, Max? Like, like, New Orleans, it's going to be your week.

Speaker 2 I know. I'm so excited.
It's going to be like the best week of my life.

Speaker 1 Cool. That's awesome.

Speaker 7 That's fucking cool.

Speaker 7 That is so, so fucking sports. But what about the week before?

Speaker 1 Like, what about preceding that? We're probably going to get to interview an Eagle, hopefully.

Speaker 2 Yep, that'll be even Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Big Dom. Maybe Big Dom.
Although I don't really want to.

Speaker 1 I don't want to interview Big Dom Super Bowl Week.

Speaker 1 I don't even want to ask because he's going to be like, it's about the players.

Speaker 7 The people want Big Dom.

Speaker 1 We're going to interview Big Dom Grit Week. Me.

Speaker 1 We're going to interview him Grit Week. Let's not.
Let's not.

Speaker 2 Big Dom, you know,

Speaker 2 Big Dom does what Big Dom wants to do.

Speaker 1 We love Big Dom. We're not going to press.
We're not going to press him.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't feel comfortable asking.

Speaker 1 But we're going to try to get an Eagle.

Speaker 7 What if his daughter is getting married? Like during the week, and we can go to him, we can ask him whatever favor we want, and he has to say yes.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm just excited for the week. I want the Eagles to win.

Speaker 1 Will the pants be making a.

Speaker 1 Can we get the pants back now?

Speaker 2 No, I'm wearing the same thing that I've worn the past two games.

Speaker 2 You saw what PFT did when he changed up his outfits.

Speaker 1 What do you mean when I changed up my outfit?

Speaker 7 I wore two different outfits for each of our playoff games. I didn't have an outfit to repeat.

Speaker 2 You got bullied online for the jumpsuit.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got bullied online.

Speaker 1 You got scared to wear it.

Speaker 7 You think I'm afraid to wear something that makes me look ridiculous?

Speaker 2 You showed up in jeans today.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're pants. They're Muggsies.
They're super comfortable pants. They feel like sweatpants.
They're the most comfortable pants in the world, you idiot.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 you're not a jeans guy for a big game. You're a wear crazy jumpsuit guy.

Speaker 7 That's last week. I wore jeans for games all the time.
My most famous pictures at games are of me wearing jeans, like big jeans. Clutch jeans.
Clutch jeans.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's fair. I should have worn the Jinkos.
I should have worn the Jinkos today.

Speaker 2 We have Muggsy Jencos.

Speaker 1 I should have worn them.

Speaker 7 that's a fair point but to say that the jumpsuit i didn't have like an outfit that i wore a good luck outfit

Speaker 1 and you and you shaved your beard but max had a good luck outfit i didn't i didn't shave my square he is

Speaker 2 i got i got a haircut everyone knows playoff time playoff beard max wants us to mention the fact that he's been growing out his beard no i didn't realize that's not true i don't even want you to realize it i just want you to know that I am I'm dialed on winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I need to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 He also, he's out of the boot and he wore the boot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're Big Ben. Yeah.
No, I had to.

Speaker 2 I'm bringing the boot. I'm bringing the boot to Nora.

Speaker 7 You're bringing the boot to the boot.

Speaker 2 I'm bringing the boot to the boot. I have to wear.

Speaker 1 I have to wear the boot

Speaker 2 inside the Caesars Superdome.

Speaker 1 What? Okay.

Speaker 1 Did Nick say?

Speaker 1 If the Eagles win, that's a promise. If the Eagles win, I will do a Shoey out of the boot.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 7 Did Nick say that?

Speaker 2 That'll be so gross.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love it.

Speaker 7 Didn't Nick say that every Tuesday is Mardi Gras for Max?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He did, yeah. I thought I heard heard that.

Speaker 7 Another thing Nick wrote down.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't say it.

Speaker 1 Oh, because I'm fat?

Speaker 1 I didn't say it. I didn't say it.
No, no, no. I didn't know you spoke French.

Speaker 1 Hey, so, Max,

Speaker 1 can we get the pants during the week?

Speaker 2 I don't know exactly where those pants are right now.

Speaker 10 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 I love it. I think they're here.

Speaker 2 They might be.

Speaker 2 I gave them the hang for the Halloween costume, and then I think he gave them back to me.

Speaker 1 We got to find them for them. We got to find them.
People want to see the pants.

Speaker 2 We got to find the pants.

Speaker 7 To me, losing pants is one of the funniest things you can do. Yeah.
I lost those particular pants.

Speaker 1 I lose all of my clothing.

Speaker 2 My clothing has like a one-year lifespan until it gets lost.

Speaker 7 Max, I have a question for you. Honest question.
So after the game, Nick Siriani called Jalen Hurts a winner.

Speaker 7 He's a winner.

Speaker 7 Do you think that Jalen Hurts is a winner?

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 7 His head's just about to implode.

Speaker 1 Look at that. Oh, you can't get out of this.

Speaker 7 Max is getting a fever. He can't get out of this right way, he might just pass out.
He can't get out of this. This question is going to make you tap.

Speaker 1 Is he a winner? Yes. He is a winner.

Speaker 1 Yes. Has he won a Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 He's in the Super Bowl. Okay.
Hank. Hank.
I'm calling in the lefty.

Speaker 4 Every winner that's ever considered a winner has also lost Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 Joe Montana?

Speaker 4 Most of the winners that could ever consider a winner has lost a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 I'm going through the list of winners.

Speaker 4 A lot of losses in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 My whole thing.

Speaker 2 I just wanted Nick Siriani to also be listed as a winner when he's not.

Speaker 1 Terry Bradshaw. Did Terry Bradshaw lose?

Speaker 7 I don't think he did.

Speaker 4 But they lost games. They lost big games.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 We're not talking about big games. We're talking about winning.

Speaker 7 Because that's the standard that we have on this podcast.

Speaker 4 Is Terry Bradshaw the GOAT? Is Eli Manning the GOAT?

Speaker 1 We're not talking about Jalen Hurst as the GOAT. We're We're just asking if he's a winner or not.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's a winner.

Speaker 4 He hasn't won the big one yet.

Speaker 7 Okay. So you can be a winner.

Speaker 1 Without where you win, but Max said that Dan Campbell's 27. Yeah, but Max said Dan Campbell's not a winner.

Speaker 2 He won a national championship. Yep.

Speaker 1 Dan Marino, two winner.

Speaker 2 But he was on the team. He won.
He played in the game.

Speaker 7 Is Dan Marino a winner?

Speaker 4 Nah.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 He only made it once.

Speaker 1 Dan Marino is not a winner. That was my phone, not a fart.

Speaker 7 So if you make it twice, then you're a winner.

Speaker 1 Farkate.

Speaker 4 I mean, make it twice at the age that he's at.

Speaker 4 I would classify him as a winner and winning a national championship.

Speaker 1 Is Josh Allen a winner?

Speaker 4 Josh Allen is a winner.

Speaker 1 Okay. Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 1 He has.

Speaker 4 Josh Allen has overperformed in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson has underperformed.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 But if Lamar wins a second MVP, Philip Rivers?

Speaker 1 Third. Third MVP.

Speaker 4 Philip Rivers, nope.

Speaker 1 Not a winner. No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Joelle Embiid.

Speaker 4 Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 How can you say that with the Philly shirt on?

Speaker 4 He hasn't made it to the best cigarette. Did you see Paul George got stuck in the

Speaker 2 Broad Street?

Speaker 1 He was trying to drive down Broad Street, and it was just like a middle of the game, like after the game.

Speaker 7 I saw the funniest video afterwards. There was this one kid from Philadelphia.
When I say kid, I mean, I think he was three years old. Yeah, he looked very young.

Speaker 7 That went up to the light pole and started trying to climb the light pole. And then a cop came up to him, fake arrested him, like put his hand behind his back.

Speaker 7 The kid wiggled out of the fake arrest and ran right back over to the light pole and started getting ready to climb it again. I love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Philly fan, too, that was walking around with the roasting a pig in a shopping cart, that was genius. Real men of genius.

Speaker 7 Listen, we got to learn how to win like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Philly was on fire today. It looked like a very fun day in Philadelphia.

Speaker 7 Well, I'm not thinking big picture. I do have to acknowledge that this was an awesome season.
It was beyond anyone's wildest expectations for the team. Hank laughed when we hired Dan Quinn.

Speaker 7 The tweet was, ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, which I bookmarked. We got into a big bookmark off.
I want to bring that back up.

Speaker 4 Left hand up. I'll own that.

Speaker 7 Sorry about your future, by the way.

Speaker 1 on the commander deck yeah yeah

Speaker 7 it's heartbreaking stuff but it was a great season we're i'm not thinking big picture yet but i i am saying i'm willing to acknowledge the fact that being in this game, in the NFC Championship game, is a feeling that I haven't felt in a very long time.

Speaker 7 And it was awesome to care this deeply about football this late into the season.

Speaker 1 And Cherry on top, we actually, I think, posed this question last week.

Speaker 1 Does Dan Snyder watch the story came out, which was like... Pretty much just porn for you.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That Dan Snyder not only like is aware of the Commanders, he's living in England and he's fucking pissed off and so angry about all of it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was so good. It came out like first thing in the morning on Saturday.
I laid in bed reading the story, just laughing out loud. He's really fucking pissed.
Good. I'm glad you're pissed.

Speaker 7 I hope you watch every second. I hope that your life is just tormented from this point forward.
I was very happy reading that, but the details in that story were crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like after I'd probably celebrated six times the sale of the team, when it came time to send the financial information, all he had to do was send Josh Harris his routing number.

Speaker 7 Bank account number his bank account number. And at the very last second, Dan Snyder was no, I don't think I'm going to send him my bank account number so that he can't pay me $6 billion.

Speaker 1 And the best part was Goodell got Dan Snyder on the way out because Dan Snyder basically was like, I'm only selling this. I don't want to sell this team.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make the price so ridiculous that no one's going to be able to pay for it. He wanted over $6 billion.

Speaker 1 Josh Harris was barely able to get the $6 billion.

Speaker 1 And then as he's about to wire the $6 billion, the NFL fined him sixty five million dollars that took the actual like full transaction just below six billion dollars yeah that's you know what we we said that at the time too we said that feels like an oddly specific number like 50.5

Speaker 7 million dollar fine on the way out Good. I'm glad.
I'm glad that he's not happy.

Speaker 1 So funny.

Speaker 7 I take pity on whatever EPL team he's doing.

Speaker 1 You ran him out of the country. He literally doesn't live in the country anymore.
Yeah, I got it. He can't sell his house.
He had to give that away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which, I mean, I guess that was a nice move by him because he did give it to like the cancer society but well he also gave it his attacks write off too but he gave it to them and it still hasn't sold yeah yeah and now they have to pay for the upkeep of that house and they're like can we just sell this fucking thing already yeah and he uh yeah he's he's basically been run away he lives in england and uh they even threw in like oh no well uh he actually loves it there and he like goes to a pub and like Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's having a great time. Like in his best life.

Speaker 7 I want to do

Speaker 1 he doesn't drink, I don't think.

Speaker 7 I want to go over there.

Speaker 1 Imagine living in London and not drinking.

Speaker 7 He's got to drink if he's going to a Westminster public.

Speaker 1 There was that anecdote too where he was like, at one point they were trying to say that he was basically going to get out of all the shit he did bad by being like, I used to drink and I did that all when I was drinking and now I don't drink anymore.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I went, I checked myself into rehab excuse.

Speaker 7 Well, his plan was, I'm going to tell them that I stopped drinking. Yeah.
Which is, that's what you say when you are really admitting that you have a problem. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm going to make them think I don't drink anymore.

Speaker 1 I'm going to become a born-again.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but it'll be fine.

Speaker 7 I was very happy to read that. That was great.
It was fun to care about football this much until late January, but it still sucks. Yeah.
It still hurts.

Speaker 1 And congrats to Max. Stressful week.
Not a stressful game. And you're on to New Orleans.
It was still pretty stressful. And so you're going to, Max is going to go to the game.

Speaker 1 He will have a setup so that he can zoom in win or lose. We're not going to stay in New Orleans for those extra days,

Speaker 1 but Max will go to the game as well on-field reporting, and he will be on the show, win or lose.

Speaker 1 Actually, when? Does he have to come on?

Speaker 1 He could, maybe

Speaker 7 he could, like, zoom in from his phone on Bourbon Street.

Speaker 1 No, we'd have to, you have to get your victory lap if you win the Super Bowl. Also, Max.

Speaker 7 You have to really stick it to us. Shut up.
There was nothing stressful about that game for you.

Speaker 1 No, there really wasn't. I mean, there was.

Speaker 7 You scored a 60-yard touchdown on your first carry from scrimmage.

Speaker 1 Yes, Aquan Rocks. The only stressful time was like in the second quarter when it was, I think, 14-12.

Speaker 1 But then you guys scored, and then you got a fumble on the kickoff right after and scored again.

Speaker 1 Like 14-12 was the only time we were like, oh, this could be a game.

Speaker 2 The fake punt was stressful.

Speaker 7 You were up 14 to 3.

Speaker 1 But you were up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that felt like a game,

Speaker 2 like a momentum changing.

Speaker 1 But the minute you touched the ball on offense, you never were trailing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's true.

Speaker 2 That's exactly what you were trailing for like 16 seconds, I think. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 So you, in the 14-12, like that was when it was close. You scored, and then the next time the commanders touched the ball, it was 27-12.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but

Speaker 2 we were up two scores against them in that other game, too.

Speaker 1 So that's why picket.

Speaker 2 Well, I kept saying that, and you kept telling me that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, because I was deluding myself into thinking we had a chance to win.

Speaker 1 Perfectly normal behavior. It did matter.

Speaker 2 I know, but it's still stressful. Like when

Speaker 2 we went three and out to start the second half, I felt kind of stressed then.

Speaker 7 I would say, like, maybe at the start of the game, when we kept converting those fourth downs on that very first drive, that was probably a little bit better.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the first drive was stressful.

Speaker 7 But, Max,

Speaker 7 here's my roadmap that me and a lot of other people had this week to convince ourselves this was going to be a good football game. The Eagles are so good.
They're better at every position.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but Jaden Daniels might be actual magic.

Speaker 7 That's what we're telling ourselves.

Speaker 7 We're forcing ourselves to believe that Jaden Daniels was literally God and that he could do whatever

Speaker 7 he wanted and nothing else in the game would matter.

Speaker 7 That's the level that we had to get to to convince ourselves that this was going to be a commander's win.

Speaker 2 Fred Smoot told me we were going to lose by 50.

Speaker 1 Do you think Fred Smoot watched that game and was like,

Speaker 1 what the fuck?

Speaker 1 He just like,

Speaker 1 was he watching that game being like, did I turn?

Speaker 1 Am I sleeping right now? Like, this can't be happening.

Speaker 7 I was getting, I loved what, I loved what Fred Smoot was saying because I liked hearing it. I liked listening to it.

Speaker 7 But also, as he was saying it, I was just thinking the whole time, like, this is not good. This is not good that he's gassing us up so much.

Speaker 4 But, yeah.

Speaker 7 Congrats, Max.

Speaker 2 Congrats, Hank. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm excited for next week.

Speaker 1 I got a future too on the Eagles.

Speaker 2 Oh, also buy some merch. We got some new merch in the Philly store.
Hank is wearing some of this.

Speaker 1 Does that make you nervous that it's Chiefs Eagles again and I can I can win a shitload of money? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay. A lot of this sounds familiar.

Speaker 7 Yeah, a lot of it sounds very familiar. Hit them low, hit them high.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 7 Unnecessary roughness penalties.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are sick.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Chiefs 32, Bills 29.

Speaker 1 How do we want to do this, PFT? Do we want to just do the ref thing at first, or we want to talk about the game and then we can give ourselves a minute to talk about the ref?

Speaker 7 I was thinking that we would do 40 minutes on the spot. Yeah.
40 minutes on the fourth down spot.

Speaker 1 That game was a great game, incredible game, like as close as it could be. It felt like to start the game, the Bills were going to get boat raced, but they hung tough.
And

Speaker 1 let's just say it because everyone's complaining about it. The spot, I did not agree with the spot.
I still will

Speaker 1 still maintain that the Chiefs, like, again, we've said it a million times, say it a million times more, like they have the championship DNA that big time plays, big time moments, they will come through.

Speaker 1 And if they have a 50-50 thing go their way, they will capitalize on it.

Speaker 1 That did suck, though, because if the Bills got that first down, it felt like they were going to go down and score and be up nine.

Speaker 1 And it was like, you won't even give Patrick Mahomes a chance to win this game. And I thought the spot sucked.
But here's what really sucked.

Speaker 1 And for anyone who's who didn't watch the game, I'm assuming everyone who's listening did. It was fourth and one on the Kansas City 41 in the fourth quarter.
The Bills are up 22-21.

Speaker 1 They do Josh Allen's sneak, and the far-line judge, I believe, ruled it pretty much close to a first down.

Speaker 1 The closer line judge had a completely different interpretation. They went to review.
They didn't give him the first down. I thought it was a first down.
I thought it was bullshit.

Speaker 1 But you know what was really bullshit?

Speaker 1 It was the fact that Sean McDermott and Joe Brady decided to keep running the same play that the Chiefs were clearly ready for all game, and that was the tush push that they didn't didn't even do correctly they don't even push right they just they just rammed josh allen in the line that was coaching malpractice in my eyes like stop running a play that's not working and they kept running it and it burned him on a on a on a fourth and one that again i thought they got it but it was so close that it leaves it up to the review and that sucked and and whichever ref got that spot and where they put it down that's what they're going to stick with because the review didn't show the ball it didn't show anything so it's hard to overturn overturn that.

Speaker 7 You can guess where his body was going to be. I thought it was a first down, too, in the moment.
But yeah, the Bills on just short-yardage situations all day. Not good.
Not good. Not good.

Speaker 7 And that's why I, despite the fact that I just got fucked by the tush push, I can say that the people that are calling for it to be removed are losers because the Bills tried to do the same thing.

Speaker 7 They can't do it. Everyone can try to do it.
The best they looked on that short-yardage situation was when Josh had to jump over the pile and extend the ball

Speaker 7 in a bad play. That probably should have been a fumble.
And I think he did, he might have dropped the ball and picked it back up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big hands. But it was, it's heartbreaking for Josh Allen.
I know there'll be a lot of people who are like, he can't win the big one.

Speaker 1 If you watch that game and you're like, Josh Allen can't win the big one. I mean,

Speaker 1 I think that really does come down to Sean McDermott had a really bad game against the Chiefs, which happens every single year. Their defense got torched.

Speaker 1 I know Benford went out early with a concussion and their secondary was thinned, has a little depth. Rap didn't play in the game.

Speaker 1 But the Mahomes in that offense, like, they scored more than 30 points the first time all year. Yeah.
They had 8.3 yards per play on passing downs.

Speaker 1 It felt like guys were just wide open.

Speaker 1 And what really would drive me nuts if I was the Bills fans outside of the ref stuff, which we've acknowledged, is on that last

Speaker 1 drive where you have three timeouts, you have two minutes or more than two minutes to try to go down the field and score a touchdown and win the game, you did not get a single touch for James Cook, who was by far your best player on offense.

Speaker 1 Like James Cook had 139 yards receiving and rushing, two touchdowns. He was averaging 8.6 yards per touch.
And he did not touch the ball on those six plays that you ran. One

Speaker 1 was a perfectly timed Steve Spagnola blitz where that's where it's the Chiefs. Like, Spaggs is such a good coach, and Andy Reid is such a good coach.
They have that blitz that gave Josh no time.

Speaker 1 He throws up a prayer to Dalton Kincaid, who probably could have caught that. And I know people are saying Khalil Shakir was open on the backside.
If you watch that play and you're like, how?

Speaker 1 Josh Allen had a guy in his face in less than a half a second.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he couldn't get the ball. He couldn't get the ball to Shakir on that.
Yeah, it was too much pressure. And Spaggs had, I think I counted three of those blitzes that were perfectly timed up.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't know how he does it, but it's always perfect. It always causes the most disruption.
It always changes the game.

Speaker 7 And it sucks for Buffalo because, yeah, you look like you're driving down the field with a one-point lead. You're about to get that fourth down, and everything's going to be different this time.

Speaker 7 It sucks. And it's not different.
And you just have to deal with the fact that Mahomes is going to the Super Bowl again.

Speaker 7 Josh Allen and the Bills have to think about this for another year and hope that next time it's going to be different. Every year, I tell myself after this matchup,

Speaker 7 don't ever forget what happened. This is just always going to keep repeating.
And then one calendar year later, I convince myself the Bills are going to do it. And they are always so close.

Speaker 7 I guess it's not as bad as the 13 seconds

Speaker 1 would happen today. I don't know, man.
Today was pretty brutal because

Speaker 1 13 seconds was awful.

Speaker 1 It goes into the whole storyline of the Chiefs and the refs and everything. And look, I get it.
Like that, that spot sucked. And the Xavier Worthy review, where there was a penalty on that play.

Speaker 1 So obviously

Speaker 1 it cost them yards, but the Chiefs were going to get a first down anyway. But that one was iffy and didn't really make sense to me.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just, I'm not going to sit here and be like, the Chiefs are only in the Super Bowl because of the refs.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Bills, like that play sucked, but the Bills' game plan of defensively, they weren't able to guard anyone,

Speaker 1 offensively, just ramming into Chris Jones in that defensive line on those short yards made no sense.

Speaker 1 And it was just like, like, I just don't get the James, like James Cook, that touchdown by James Cook was one of the coolest touchdowns I've ever seen. Yeah.
He was in the matrix. He floated.

Speaker 1 His body was contorted and he floated into the end zone. And that guy didn't get,

Speaker 1 he didn't end up getting. And they also kind of went away from the run in the first half, whereas second half, you see them come out.
They shove it down their throat. And here's another one.

Speaker 1 I get it. You can't second guess everything.
Sean McDermott taking points off the board.

Speaker 1 Basically, I mean, that's a 31-31 game if he doesn't take the points off the board. So essentially what happens is they score a touchdown at the end of the first half.
The Chiefs get a penalty.

Speaker 1 The Bills kick the extra point. So it's 21-17.

Speaker 1 There's a penalty. They're like, fuck it.
We'll go for two. Now they don't get it.
So instead of 21, 17, it's 21.16.

Speaker 1 They score a touchdown in the second half because they didn't get it the first time. They go for it again.
So instead of being it, if you kick both extra points, it's 24-21, and now it's 22-21.

Speaker 1 Do the math. It would have been 31-31.

Speaker 7 Not to get all analytical on you, but part of the reason why you go for two is because there is a chance that you miss the extra point. Of course.
So if you've already made the extra point,

Speaker 7 then that's a little bit less of a reason to get it.

Speaker 1 Right. Don't take the points off the board.
I just feel like, I feel like Sean McDermott just, again, Andy Reid just out-coached him.

Speaker 1 And I feel bad for Josh. Like, yeah, was there, especially at the beginning of the game, he was kind of erratic.
And could he have played better? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he also has been asked to play basically perfect to give them a chance. And it's yet again where his defense and his coaching just, they don't do enough.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was. Sad for Bills fans.
Sad for America, too. Even though, listen, I appreciate Patrick Momes.
I appreciate the Chiefs. I think we respect the Chiefs enough on this show.

Speaker 1 People will listen and take away, you know, people can listen to the show, and there'll be people like, you just glazed Josh Allen or you hate the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I've been saying it for how many times have I said that the Chiefs, the reason why the Chiefs are the Chiefs, is not because of the refs. It's because if you make a mistake, they take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 And that's what a championship team does. Yeah.
Like, I don't know how more clear I can be that the Chiefs have that DNA. Every big play they need.
They were six of 10 on third and fourth down.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes used his legs perfectly today. He scored two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 And then the best was we were having the debate in the cave when it was when the Bills.

Speaker 1 So who went out of bounds? That was so stupid of them. Was it Pacheco went out of bounds? It stopped the clock with like a minute and a half left.

Speaker 1 I can't remember who went out of bounds, but it was very low football IQ. It was Pacheco.
It was Pacheco. Like, that was very Unchiefs-like.
So the Bills technically still had a chance.

Speaker 1 It was third and nine. And we're sitting there being like, should they kick the field goal? What should they do? And then I just stopped.
I was like, what are we talking about right now?

Speaker 1 They're going to get the first down. And that's what they did.
They have a play that gets them a first down. When they need to get a first down, it ends the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And when Mahomes was running with the ball, he was also tough as fuck today. Yeah.
He was putting his head down. He was trying to run through people.
He did not do the tiptoe on the sideline stuff.

Speaker 7 He didn't do any of the things that he's been criticized for. He played an awesome game of football.
Andy Reid coached another great game of football.

Speaker 7 The Chiefs look like they might be unstoppable again. And now we've got a rematch, the Chiefs and the Eagles.
Max, who do you think that Jason Kelsey is going to be rooting for?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I am terrified of that.
I think he's going to do like a

Speaker 7 house divided jersey.

Speaker 1 He's going to wear both?

Speaker 7 You can't do a house divided. You just got to sit it out.

Speaker 2 No, he'll be there.

Speaker 7 No, no, but I'm saying

Speaker 7 you can't wear a logo.

Speaker 2 Maybe.

Speaker 2 The only thing that makes me.

Speaker 4 He should be rooting for the Eagles.

Speaker 1 He should be.

Speaker 1 He should be. Travis just won one.

Speaker 2 He should be, but I don't know if he wins.

Speaker 1 And that same team beat the fucking Eagles.

Speaker 2 I know, but like, it's.

Speaker 4 He should be rooting for the Eagles.

Speaker 2 I agree.

Speaker 7 Will you think less of him if he doesn't? He was in the locker room.

Speaker 4 He felt the pain after they lost to that. It's all his boys.
And it's all those same boys have a chance to get revenge against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Also, just for the storyline, he should be rooting.

Speaker 1 Not to give him podcast advice, but like, yeah, you root for the Eagles, dude. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know. Like, I don't know what he ended up doing today.
He was at the Eagles' tailgate, but he said on his show on Friday night that he was going to try and get to the Chiefs game.

Speaker 2 He was trying to go to both games somehow.

Speaker 1 That's not possible.

Speaker 1 Maybe second half?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know what he ended up doing, but he was at the Eagles tailgate for ESPN

Speaker 2 game.

Speaker 2 I don't know what they do.

Speaker 2 Their pre-game for the NFL. And then he was like, I really want to get to Kansas City, though, for Travis' game.

Speaker 2 I think Travis is going to retire after this year.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 2 he talked about that made me think that he's going to retire.

Speaker 7 I think if they win, he will.

Speaker 1 By the way, more so to the Chiefs'

Speaker 1 greatness, Patrick Mahomes. Travis Kelsey was taken away in this game.
The Bills did a good job of taking him away, and they're like, we're not going to let him beat us.

Speaker 1 And then Patrick Mahomes just, Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Hopkins. He found other ways with his feet.
He found other ways to beat him. I got a couple crazy Patrick Mahomes stats for you.

Speaker 1 So this is from Josh Dubeau, AP.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes has trailed in fourth quarters in nine playoff games. He has come back to win six and forced OT in two others before losing.

Speaker 1 He has a 132.2 rating with five touchdown passes, one TD run, went down one to eight points in the the fourth quarter or OT of playoff games, leading scores on 13 of 14 drives.

Speaker 1 That's as money as you get. That's Patrick Mahomes being incredible, the best quarterback in football.
That's not refs. I know that people will say it's refs.
That's not refs.

Speaker 7 What about the blended clock?

Speaker 1 The blended clock was bullshit.

Speaker 1 We learned

Speaker 7 that the blended clock, like, who's that painter? Salvador Dali? The guy that painted the clock.

Speaker 1 Or the melting clocks.

Speaker 7 Yeah. So the blended clock is just when the refs say we're going to combine the play clock with the clock before the two-minute warning.

Speaker 1 He was explaining it was like a half a, when it's half a second off,

Speaker 1 you can just

Speaker 1 run it down.

Speaker 7 But then I see the zeros

Speaker 7 on one, and I don't see the zeros on the other. Makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Also, Patrick Mahomes has been a starter in the NFL for seven years. He has gone to five Super Bowls, and his worst season is a loss in the AFC Championship game twice.
Yeah. That's insane.

Speaker 1 That's insane. He's great.
And again,

Speaker 1 I thought that was a first down. I really did.
And

Speaker 1 I'm so gutted for Josh Allen and the Bills because I do think that if they get that first down,

Speaker 1 who am I kidding? The Chiefs probably find a way to win the game anyway.

Speaker 7 If they get that first down, they win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But it's just, it sucks. Being a Bills fan is torture.

Speaker 1 They go through torture. I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 1 It's so brutal. And I really do.
you said it a week or two ago, PFD. Like,

Speaker 1 if they lose in the playoffs, is there a chance Sean McDermott's on the hot seat?

Speaker 1 Now, I think Sean McDermott is a really good coach, but kind of like Andy Reid in Philadelphia, like, is there a chance that they've hit the wall and to get through the wall, they need something different?

Speaker 7 Yeah, but then you got to make sure that whatever he put in place pre-wall stays up. Yeah.
Because the Bills, they were a bad team before Sean McDermott. I know.
And then Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I don't think you fire him, but I just, it did feel like this game was another winnable Bills game that coaching and defense,

Speaker 1 like, it hurt them. And Josh could have been better.

Speaker 1 He was a little erratic at times, but he also made some fucking huge, like, that Matt Collins touchdown was a huge throw.

Speaker 1 And, you know, they obviously were going to try to run the ball, and they did a really good job of that. And they just couldn't get stops.
I mean, the Chiefs didn't score 30 points all season.

Speaker 1 They did today.

Speaker 7 Do you think that Rex Ryan is going to publicly lobby for the Bills job now? Probably. Like it's coming home?

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 What do we say to the people who are now saying they're not going to watch the Super Bowl? Who's saying that? A lot of people online saying it's rigged.

Speaker 1 They're not going to watch the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 If it's rigged, if you truly believe it's rigged, then why don't you just make a fuckload of money betting on the Chiefs? Great question.

Speaker 7 That's me personally. That's what I would.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Something is rigged.
Yeah. Just clean up.

Speaker 2 I also think people just don't like the matchup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they don't like the matchup, but it's still the Super Bowl. I don't care.
It's the Super Bowl. Yeah.
It's the last football game of the year. You're going to watch the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 You've got to watch the Super Bowl. If you don't watch the Super Bowl, you're just not American.

Speaker 7 Hank, why did you make a disgusted face when you said he's probably going to propose?

Speaker 4 I was just thinking, he wouldn't actually, after I said it, I realized Taylor would never allow it to happen, but I was thinking of like Confetti. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like Boise State player win the Super Bowl, propose. And retire.

Speaker 7 You think he could do better, is what you're saying?

Speaker 4 No, I just,

Speaker 4 that thought of all that scene disgusted me, but I don't think, I think they would do it in a little more classy way.

Speaker 1 I think she

Speaker 4 will retire, and he will propose in the offseason.

Speaker 7 I think she's going to propose to him.

Speaker 1 Bro, we're going to win, Hank. What if we just win? We're not going to win.
You're cooked.

Speaker 1 Oh, memes just said you're cooked. Do you think it's going to be the refs or it's going to be Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 We just got to win. The screenshot of the first down is going to be.

Speaker 4 It's also brutal that as

Speaker 4 good of a blitz as it was, and it was a very tough throw for Josh. It was an extremely catchable ball.

Speaker 1 Dalton Kincaid.

Speaker 4 It's not like

Speaker 4 he just had to throw it away or threw it up, and it was no longer

Speaker 4 extremely extreme. And it would have been an

Speaker 1 all-time play that went down in the history books. But again, I still,

Speaker 1 I don't know how

Speaker 1 the Bills would have gotten any stops. I guess they'd have to score a touchdown there, and then maybe the game would have been over.

Speaker 1 But it didn't feel like the Bills were ever going to, like, if it went to overtime, did you think the Bills were going to stop then?

Speaker 4 It would have been poetic because of.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but

Speaker 1 they couldn't get off the field.

Speaker 7 That's why that first down, that fourth down, was so big because they could have made it a two-score game. I know.

Speaker 1 And then your defense has some room where

Speaker 7 they can let Patrick Mahomes do his thing, and it doesn't kill you.

Speaker 1 I know. It sucks.

Speaker 7 We're going to know everything there is to know about the ref that called that ball short and whatever connections he has to Kansas City or Texas Tech or Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 I really thought it was a first down. I really did.
And I thought that one ref

Speaker 1 basically came out and did that, but it's just,

Speaker 1 again, it's more like

Speaker 1 I understand.

Speaker 1 All Bills fans should be mad at the refs and they should complain about the refs and they have every right to be mad at the refs and talk about it, ad nauseum about the refs.

Speaker 1 i'm removed a little from it that i can be like maybe just don't run the same play that was getting nothing over and over yeah they weren't even running the tush push correctly they weren't pushing i agree i thought he got the first down as well and it was clear the chiefs had figured it out like the chiefs were were were we were defending against it so well yep i thought they got it but i didn't think that there was anything on the replay that was like definitive enough for them to say

Speaker 7 we're going to overrule what we just one of our refs said on the the field.

Speaker 1 And that's that the Chiefs are just really fucking good. And that's what they do.
They capitalize on everything. Mahomes makes big plays.
And you're right about Mahomes running like tough.

Speaker 1 He wasn't doing any of the

Speaker 1 trying to get hit late or trying to dance around the sideline. He was just, and you could tell he was jacked up on some of those runs.

Speaker 7 The one thing you can say negatively about Mahomes today is he had the worst spike in the history of football. That's true.
After the touchdown. That's a fact.
He was too jacked up.

Speaker 7 He couldn't spike it properly.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Anything else on this game? I mean, I just feel really bad for Bills fans, and I just feel really bad for Josh.

Speaker 1 It just sucks. Because

Speaker 1 people will be like, hey, Josh Allen sucks.

Speaker 1 No, he just keeps running up against Mahomes. And

Speaker 1 he's playing to a level that should win games. I just think the Bills keep kind of getting outcoached in these games.
Yeah. Like, there's the margin for error is so small in these games.

Speaker 1 And Sean McDermott makes a couple of these errors, chasing points early, running the same play that's not working over and over again, challenging that one catch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like there's just these moments where it's like, if you just can do a better job, or like, you know, knowing that Spaggs is going to do something crazy on that last play, using a timeout and talking and like figuring out your best play, because you had three timeouts there.

Speaker 1 I know you wanted to save him in case you didn't get that first down, but also the play calling on that drive made no sense.

Speaker 1 Again, James Cook, like, they just, you can't make any mistakes against a team like the Chiefs. They're so fucking good.
They're so well coached. Patrick Holmes is just, he's money in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 That's what he does. Chiefs are just a wagon, and they're going for history.
First three-peat ever, which would be insane.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're going to get it.

Speaker 1 Congrats. Max, you stand in the way.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 We got to take him down. We got to take him down for Hank's legacy, really.

Speaker 7 Also, for your legacy, too, Max, because

Speaker 1 it could change their.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 7 how many of these big games has Hank lost?

Speaker 7 He wasn't Philly Hank until recently.

Speaker 1 I only lost to the Eagles.

Speaker 2 No, I mean, but this just tears down everything the Patriots built.

Speaker 4 But not if Mahomes keeps winning.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, a three-peat is.

Speaker 1 A three-peat is the best team in history of the NFL.

Speaker 1 No team's ever done a three-peat.

Speaker 7 A three-peat would be tough against the Eagles, too, because two of those would be against you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that would be tough. That would be tough.

Speaker 7 It would be known, like, people would think first of them beating the Eagles in the Super bowl just win just win if the eagle

Speaker 2 everyone eagles lose this game i will have lost 67 of the super bowls on this podcast

Speaker 2 since i've since i've been here yeah since i've been here

Speaker 1 yeah that's a lot we were gonna say hank

Speaker 1 that's a lot of podcasts of super bowls the eagles are gonna lose Shut up, Hank.

Speaker 7 See, now when I need you, you're just a fucking dick. Now I'm beginning to think you're not actually an Eagles fan, Hank.

Speaker 2 Well, what was

Speaker 2 last week you were, you know.

Speaker 4 I was, I just, I call it how I see it. I knew that game was going to be a blowout.
I also thought the Commanders were going to beat the Lions.

Speaker 4 I want the Eagles to win. I just,

Speaker 4 it's impossible. Rooting against the Chiefs is legitimately like rooting against LeBron on the heat.
Like, it reminds me the same way.

Speaker 4 I root as hard as I can against them, and they just win again and again and again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wanted this game for Josh so bad, and I was just like, I should have just bet on the Chiefs because that's a smart play. So, what are you going to do with your future?

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes under a field.

Speaker 4 I'm going to ride it out, but I'm riding as well, Max.

Speaker 1 I'm not cashing out. All right, go birds.
I'm riding with you. I'm riding with you.
Go Birds. The Chiefs are just really fucking good.
So are the Eagles. And they're so well coached.

Speaker 4 I'd just rather die than not

Speaker 4 than root for the Chiefs, but

Speaker 1 if you didn't have a future, would you bet the the Chiefs? No.

Speaker 1 I did it last year in the Super Bowl, and it was a great experience.

Speaker 4 I would just bet, like, no.

Speaker 1 Because it was the whole time, it was just like, oh, Will Mahomes is going to win this game.

Speaker 7 You're such a dickhead.

Speaker 1 Why would you do that? Why'd you kick him in when he's in?

Speaker 4 I was just thinking, that's what I did for that Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Do we give enough credit to the Chiefs?

Speaker 2 Fuck the Chiefs. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think it's. I mean, they're just really good.
I don't know what, like.

Speaker 7 I mean, the highest compliment you can get as a fan of a sports team is is having everybody in the country hate your team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the refs,

Speaker 1 it sucks that that happened. The fourth and one, that sucks.

Speaker 1 They're just going to replay that over. That's why it's like, ah, man, the Bills fit.

Speaker 1 They just invent new ways to just...

Speaker 1 What is Max looking up? Villain hero.

Speaker 2 I don't know. There was some meme of like the Eagles and the Chiefs playing the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and it was one of those America maps of what every team is going for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the part of my takeaccina. As long as, yeah,

Speaker 1 live long enough to be the villain, yeah, or whatever the hell the saying is.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 7 if you're a Chief fan, you realize that people, you've broken so many cities correct through your rampage that you know that they're going to hate you. That's how that's how sports is.

Speaker 7 We all yearn to be hated.

Speaker 1 Josh is going to get one, right?

Speaker 7 Oh, man. He has to.

Speaker 1 But this team was like, I know they were rebuilding, but their defense, obviously, Benford going out in the first quarter was bad, but like

Speaker 1 their defense was fairly healthy considering how unhealthy they've been in the last couple years. And

Speaker 1 the AFC is just so goddamn hard.

Speaker 7 How did you make that map?

Speaker 7 What data did you sort through for that?

Speaker 1 You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Got it off Google.
Okay. Yeah.
And now it's flipped again where the Eagles are the hero again.

Speaker 1 Because it's a map of everyone rooting for the Eagles in the Super Bowl against the Patriots and everyone rooting against for the Chiefs in the AFC Championship against the Patriots and then everyone rooting for the Bills versus the Chiefs and everyone rooting for the Commanders against the Eagles.

Speaker 7 What do you think the breakdown on the new map is going to be though? Because I think we might have a couple states that are Chiefs besides just Kansas and maybe Missouri.

Speaker 7 I think Texas might be rooting for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dallas.

Speaker 2 Houston isn't.

Speaker 1 Houston is

Speaker 1 not. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 7 It's a bigger city, too.

Speaker 1 That is a bigger city.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't. D.C.
certainly isn't written for the Eagles. Nope.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone's.

Speaker 1 Although, yeah, no, D.C.

Speaker 2 Giants certainly are not.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, Saquon winning.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, there's a couple spots.

Speaker 2 Niners fans hate the Eagles.

Speaker 7 They also hate the Eagles.

Speaker 1 They've lost twice to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, Max.

Speaker 1 Chiefs are just destroying everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what they do. Fuck, we can't lose again.

Speaker 7 Just be a legend. Stop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone's

Speaker 1 all right. Let's take our last break and then we'll do some coaching news and some other stuff.

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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, whose line is it anyway? Super Bowl 59. I haven't looked.
I said it was just going to be under a field goal.

Speaker 2 It's Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Are they favored? What's the line?

Speaker 4 One and a half.

Speaker 1 Chiefs, one and a half.

Speaker 7 That's probably going to move a little bit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 It usually never stays the same for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But it's also never going to get to a field goal, either way.

Speaker 7 That's never going to happen. You think Chiefs minus three is

Speaker 7 out of bounds? I think it's never going to happen.

Speaker 1 I think people will gobble that up. Yeah, I think they would gobble that up in a second.

Speaker 1 Over under 49.5.

Speaker 1 Got to probably bet the over because it's the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 That's un-American to me.

Speaker 1 Get it all on DraftKings. I'm going to bet Tails tonight just to feel like I'm locked in the national anthem.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You should be able to bet on the flyover, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So coaching news.

Speaker 1 Liam Cohn is the new head coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it was quite a sorted affair on Thursday. It was after we recorded.

Speaker 1 We actually got a little bit of it in there, but then more details came out. He spurned the bucks.
He basically, the timeline goes like this.

Speaker 1 Liam Cohn took the first interview with the Jaguars, actually at the Glazers telling him, like, hey, go take this interview. Came back.
Balkie was still

Speaker 1 the GM of the Jaguars. The offer was probably in the, I don't know, five, six million, whatever you want to call it range.

Speaker 1 He talks to the Bucs, handshake deal. Bucs are going to make him the highest paid coordinator, offensive coordinator in the league.

Speaker 1 Part of the handshake deal is he can't go for his second interview with the Jags.

Speaker 1 Trent Balky gets fired. Shad Khan calls up Liam Cohen, says, hey, the price just went up.
We're going to pay you $13 million, $14 million a year.

Speaker 1 Liam Cohen's now stuck because he made this handshake deal that if he takes a second interview, he's not going to be the highest paid coordinator.

Speaker 1 So he goes to Jacksonville, basically tells the Bucs, hey, I'm going to come in on Thursday to sign my new contract.

Speaker 1 Doesn't take any calls from them. Tells them that he's tending to a family emergency.

Speaker 1 Word gets out that he actually is in Jacksonville interviewing for the Jaguars' job.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars are also trying to keep it under wraps because they had to clear the Rooney rule and get another minority candidate in the building. So they do that on Thursday morning.

Speaker 1 Get Liam Cohn to agree to be the head coach. Then Liam Cohn, I think, picks up a phone call from Todd Bull.
He's like, hey, I'm...

Speaker 1 at the hospital with my kid and also this jaguar situation is changing takes a Jaguars job and the Bucs are pissed.

Speaker 7 He used the term material change. We haven't seen that in a couple years.
Yeah,

Speaker 7 I don't ever fault a guy for taking a head coaching job because there's very limited in supply.

Speaker 7 If you get the opportunity to do it, you probably want to do it and you also get paid a shitload more money. He probably could have handled this a little bit better.

Speaker 7 But when he basically he went back to the Bucs and then the Jaguars were like, we understand that there's a guy that you really hate. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And I know that we said we weren't going to fire him, but we want you so much that we're going to fire this guy just to make you happy.

Speaker 1 And then at that point,

Speaker 7 now if he didn't take that job, they just fired a guy for no real reason. And that was probably like a big selling point for him.
He's like, I don't have to work with that guy anymore.

Speaker 1 He's getting paid insane money.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson money is what they said, which is insane money as well. The Bears paying Ben Johnson insane money, but it's unprecedented for a first-time head coach.

Speaker 1 It's also unprecedented for first-time head coach to be able to pick their GM.

Speaker 1 I don't really blame Liam Cohn at all on this. I know that that's probably

Speaker 1 looked like scumbag behavior, but

Speaker 1 I don't know what choices he had in the fact that the Bucs shouldn't have made it contingent on not taking the second interview.

Speaker 1 If you're an employer, you should let your employees take those interviews. Go see what is out there, especially in this business when you know that guys are going to try to get dream jobs.

Speaker 1 There's only 32 of them. If they didn't make it contingent on him not taking the second interview, I think he probably would have been more forthright about it.

Speaker 1 But he was stuck in a position where if he takes a second interview, he could potentially lose his job with the Bucs and not get the Jags interview or job.

Speaker 7 I think, if anything, he's guilty of being a bad friend and a bad texter.

Speaker 1 Bad texter probably could, listen, could have handled it better, but I also go back to like NFL franchises will cut players anytime they want. They will, like,

Speaker 1 our colleague John Gruden, who worked for the Bucs, signed an extension and then got fired four months later or whatever it was.

Speaker 7 Or like look at Bobby Sloick, the coordinator for the Texans. After last season, he was one of the hot names out there getting all the interviews.
He decides to go back to Houston.

Speaker 7 The next season happens, his name is now not in good standing with the rest of the NFL.

Speaker 7 He gets fired by the Houston Texans. Lou Anarumo

Speaker 1 was the hottest name after the Bengals go to the Super Bowl. He just got fired by the Bengals.
Like, I just think it's such a cutthroat business that if you don't look out out for yourself,

Speaker 1 you're kind of like, you can't be a nice guy in the NFL. That's really what it comes out.
And you know what? The craziest part is, too, like, I understand Todd Bowles is mad.

Speaker 1 If the Bucs didn't make the playoffs this year, Todd Bowles probably would have been fired for Liam Cohen.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but you know what?

Speaker 7 I accept the fact that the Bucs are going to be pissed at him. Yeah, no, of course they have everyone to get the Bucks, but I'm just the Bucks should be like, this guy is a snake.

Speaker 7 I'm fucking pissed at him. I hope we beat the shit out of him.
I hate that guy.

Speaker 7 That's a completely reasonable response from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to have. But just like big picture,

Speaker 7 it's a head coaching joke.

Speaker 1 But people like calling him a taken. Yeah, people calling him like a scumbag.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, I don't know where's, where's that same energy when a team does that to a player or a team does that to a coach? Because that happens literally all the time.

Speaker 1 And now it's the one time it's flipped where a coach has kind of fucked over a team. I don't know.
It's just the NFL's cutthroat.

Speaker 7 It did play out like a soap opera, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was incredible.

Speaker 7 Succession meets eastbound and down.

Speaker 1 I just, I feel like the nfl you just can't expect like loyalty and feelings just don't exist because everyone's they know that like the minute things go bad you're gonna get fired and the and you have no guarantee of having a job opening like this again especially with this money um and really the if you want to blame anyone it's probably shot khan probably should have just fired trent balki on on uh black monday when everyone expected it but and this would have made it a lot easier but to be fair he was told by trent balki that it would be a bad decision to fire Trent Buck.

Speaker 7 To fire him. Yeah.
Yeah. I got bad information.

Speaker 1 I think, like, on a personal level, I think people in the Bucs building should be upset.

Speaker 1 But I also, again, I think that if the Bucs had a chance to do something like this to a coach or someone, they probably would. Whatever makes their team better, they're going to do.

Speaker 1 So why can't Liam Cohn do whatever makes his life better?

Speaker 7 You know what? The only reason why I'm mad is because Baker.

Speaker 7 Because now Baker has to have another offensive coordinator, and they're going to run that fucking graphic next year where it's the roller coaster, all the OCs that he's been with.

Speaker 7 They've gotten fired. This guy left.
He got caught. He got traded, whatever, et cetera, et cetera.
That's just, that's another thing that he's going to have to do. Also,

Speaker 1 Lim Cohn has jumped around. I think he said this is his fifth different job in five years.
You hired that guy.

Speaker 1 You knew that that guy could do this.

Speaker 7 You saw the resume. Right.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 it's not crazy to be like, wow, I never, I thought he would make roots here and stay forever.

Speaker 7 Yeah, some people convince themselves somehow that it's going to work for them, even though it never has.

Speaker 7 Will it work for us? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think it might. I also think, like, the Jags, they just got in a spot where, you know, Ben Johnson said no to them.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if Mike Rabel interviewed with them, and they had to do a panic move where the price, they basically boxed themselves into being like, we have to fire Trent Palki and pay an insane amount of money so that we can get someone that is sought after instead of having a situation where we end up with the sixth option and everyone's like, wow, the Jags really fucked this up.

Speaker 7 Would it be totally crazy to think, like, Doug Peterson would have been a good idea?

Speaker 1 Keep him around. Keep him around?

Speaker 7 He's the second best in terms of winning percentage in the history of the franchise.

Speaker 1 That's true. So, it was crazy, though.
The whole thing was crazy. I just thought it was very funny that people were like, How could anyone ever do this? Like, it's the NFL.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 This happens.

Speaker 1 Do you think when a coach gets in front of like

Speaker 1 a college coach does a press conference, like, I want to be here for the rest of my life?

Speaker 7 And then, and then he gets an offer the next day and he jumps like we've seen that a million times like if the Bucs had hired Lane Kiffin to be their offensive coordinator yeah and then he left after a year would you be pissed at Lane or would you be like I can't believe that I let the scorpion ride on my back across the river right right

Speaker 1 and then when and then when Lane Kiffen gets left on a tarmac at USC

Speaker 1 That's the other way. It just goes.
I feel like everyone just cuts everyone in the back in the NFL, and it sucks, but it's just the truth of it.

Speaker 7 That reminded me of the time that Al Davis fired Lane and had a whole PowerPoint presentation on an overhead projector. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And he called the media into his room to watch his overhead projector and outlined the reasons why he just fired Lane Kiffen.

Speaker 1 So that rocked. Good segue.
Speaking of Al Davis, Jerry Jones is in his late Al Davis years because he hired Brian Schottenheimer,

Speaker 1 which was his offensive coordinator this year.

Speaker 1 So the Cowboys, basically, the Cowboys' offseason has gone blocking Mike McCarthy from doing any interviews, having everyone believe that they were going to re-sign Mike McCarthy, not re-signing Mike McCarthy, then doing like a half-ass search for a head coach, calling Deion once,

Speaker 1 and then Jerry Jones walking down the hallway and being like, hey, you, what's your name again? You want to be the head coach? And now Brian Schottenheimer's the head coach.

Speaker 1 And Jerry even said one of the weirdest quotes ever. Brian Schottenheimer is known as a career assistant.
He ain't Brian no more. He is now known as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 7 That's his name.

Speaker 1 He ain't Brian no more.

Speaker 7 You also left out Jerry Jones putting off an Emmy worthy performance in Landman. Yeah.
That was also a big part of their offseason.

Speaker 7 Well, I think it goes to show you that the Cowboys' job probably, probably not as desirable as Jerry Jones thinks that it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they didn't even, did they even do a coach search? I don't know if they did.

Speaker 7 They kind of did. They interviewed a few guys, but if you're Jerry Jones, your big sell has always been, you get to be the head ball coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 7 And now I think most football guys are like, that's not necessarily a great thing because that means that Jerry Jones is really the head of the entire operation.

Speaker 7 And I'm just, I have to learn how to be Jerry Jones's bitch while also pretending to be the alpha on this team.

Speaker 7 When every player on the team understands that like when their boss, their coach is talking to them, he's not really their final boss. He's not the boss boss.

Speaker 1 And this goes to, I've been saying it for a while now because I thought they weren't going to fire Mike McCarthy or part ways with him.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones, the Jerry Jones from the 90s and the Jimmy Johnson stuff, and Barry Switzer, and then bringing in Parcells, that guy doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 1 He just wants a coach that will just follow whatever he says. And guess who's going to follow whatever he says? The career assistant who is down the hall, who's like, here, you be the head coach.

Speaker 1 He doesn't give every opportunity, sir. Yeah, ever since Bill Parcells, he's not going to hire someone who is going to have that alpha energy and be like, this is my show.

Speaker 1 He's going to hire people, Jason Garrett, you know, Mike McCarthy, who, you know, didn't have it, who sat out for a year, guys who are going to basically do what Jerry says and be like, thank you, Jerry, for giving me a life.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's like a situation where your head coach is speaking to you after practice, like taking E-Boys, and he's like, the buck stops here with me. I'm the boss.
I'm in charge of everything.

Speaker 7 And then his hat gets blown off by Jerry Jones' helicopter as it lands on the field. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This has to make you PFT and Max.
Oh, he's leaving. He's taking a piss.

Speaker 7 I think it's a a great hire by the Cambridge.

Speaker 1 I think you guys have got to be both very pumped. I think it's a great job.
The Cowboys are a disaster.

Speaker 7 You just have to ask the fans of teams that Schottenheimer has coached for in the past what they think of him. Yeah.
Now, I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 I've been wrong before.

Speaker 7 I was wrong last year about Dan Quinn. I should have had him second on.
I should have had him first instead of, but I have him like third. Yeah.
But I've been wrong before.

Speaker 7 I don't always get it right. But if you're asking me right now, I love it.
I love this hire.

Speaker 1 And people are bringing up like, oh, well, everyone thought Dan Campbell was crazy.

Speaker 1 This hire could work. I think it's more the fact that the process made no sense because it doesn't feel, again, like they did.

Speaker 1 It felt like Jerry Jones just called up Deion Sanders and was like, do you want the job? He's like, no.

Speaker 1 It's like, all right.

Speaker 7 I think he talked to Brian Schauner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who Pete Carroll got hired by the Raiders, which is awesome because Pete Carroll is, it's going to be fun to have him back there. He will be on week one.

Speaker 1 He will be the oldest coach to coach an NFL game.

Speaker 1 I think he beats Romeo Cornell by like six months, who was the oldest, who is the oldest right now when he was interim for the Texans.

Speaker 1 But the real story with Pete Carroll being in the Raiders is that Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll are destined to just go against each other.

Speaker 1 I love that they, no matter what, they will always follow each other. This time, it's Pete Carroll following Jim Harbaugh.
Obviously, we had Stanford and USC in their famous dust-ups, the biggest

Speaker 1 upset ever, 41.5-point favorites. Then Pete Carroll goes to the Seahawks, Jim Harbaugh goes to the Niners, and now Jim Harbaugh are the Chargers and Pete Carroll to the Raiders.

Speaker 1 They just, they have to be together.

Speaker 7 And it's not just those two. That whole division rocks.
Yeah. That whole division.
You got Andy Reid and Sean Payton. Yeah.
And then Harbaugh and Pete Carroll. Yeah.
It's great.

Speaker 7 That's going to be great. I'm excited about that.

Speaker 7 I also like, I like Pete Carroll teaming up with Tom Brady because Pete Carroll, he's not, he might be on his own TB12 thing because he does not look like the oldest coach.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 he's young as fuck.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's like as young, his body years, his true body years, if you were to measure it and whatever shit Dana White got extracted from his blood that one time. Yeah.

Speaker 7 He's probably about as young as me or you. Yeah.
I think that might actually just say that we're very old, but we meet somewhere in the middle. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So happy birthday week, by the way. What?

Speaker 1 Birthday week. Birthday.
This is our last week in our 30s. I'm not freaking out about it.

Speaker 7 No, I haven't thought about it at all.

Speaker 1 I've definitely been freaking out about it a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes is shaking his head. He's so happy.

Speaker 7 I had to get up. Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 It's not our birthday yet. I had to get up three times.

Speaker 1 It's not our birthday yet. Actually, tune into Friday's show because I think PFT and I will.

Speaker 1 By the way, subscribe to YouTube. Please subscribe to the YouTube and watch us.

Speaker 1 On the Friday show, we'll probably do the kiss.

Speaker 1 Because Thursday is my birthday and Friday is yours.

Speaker 7 That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 So we'll probably do the kiss

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Speaker 7 What a tradition.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we kiss every year.

Speaker 7 At the stroke of midnight.

Speaker 1 At the stroke of midnight between January 30th and 31st.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we're going to be

Speaker 7 very weird.

Speaker 1 It's fine. You know what? We just got to get through like the week where everyone says, ah, you guys are old, and then we'll be young again.
So, like, we're not 50. 40 plus.
Yeah, it's a cool drink.

Speaker 1 Hank, you're fucking like 32. No, I know.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not yet.
Having panic attacks at 32.

Speaker 7 31.

Speaker 1 You're going to be 32.

Speaker 7 Panic attacks at 31.

Speaker 1 Max is going to be 30.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm over it. In two years? This year.
Oh,

Speaker 1 means you're like 40.

Speaker 1 Next month. You're 30? Yeah, next month.
Oh, my God. We got to get it.
All right. We got to get an intern this year.
We got to get younger. We got to get one young guy here.

Speaker 2 Jack's young.

Speaker 1 Shane's young. Yeah, I know, but we need to get,

Speaker 1 we're going to do it right this year. We'll get an intern for the whole summer.
And we got to get.

Speaker 1 We can't say age, but

Speaker 1 we need a teenager. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Part of my drake.

Speaker 1 We need someone whose parents are really cool and they can sign the waiver. We need a 16 year old.
Yep. The next generation.

Speaker 1 We're cool. I'm just kidding.
We're not going to get a 16 year old. 17 is fine.
Unless they're like really good. Yeah, unless they're really funny.
17, if you're listening to this or 17,

Speaker 7 big catademics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can dream and get in here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we want a kid who's like... I want the Rizzler.

Speaker 7 I'll just say it. We can't afford the Rizzler.
Spots open for the Rizzler.

Speaker 1 I want a kid walking in here being like, yeah, I started listening to you guys when I was nine. Speaking of the Rizzler, what are the Saints doing?

Speaker 7 Are they going to hire a coach?

Speaker 1 I think Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 7 Okay. Feels like that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dennis Allen's now the DC in Chicago.

Speaker 7 But whoever signs up to coach the Saints,

Speaker 7 you're walking into Cap Hell.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 This is ongoing Cap Hell that you have.

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy can get, he's got, he knows nothing.

Speaker 7 He's got some computers, yeah.

Speaker 1 That?

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Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 NOLA, the question that everyone really wants to know is, Saturday night, will you be drinking champagne and and getting fucked up?

Speaker 2 I will not be drinking champagne.

Speaker 1 I will definitely be getting fucked up.

Speaker 7 Are you going to be losing your phone?

Speaker 2 I was thinking about just getting a new phone on Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 That's not good.

Speaker 1 What's your thought processor? What?

Speaker 7 I'm concerned, Max. I don't think.
You know what? Enjoy the win. No, that's true.

Speaker 1 But you got to be mentally prepared. I don't know why I was thinking.

Speaker 7 Right now, you're not mentally prepared.

Speaker 1 Why not just save all your energy for Sunday?

Speaker 1 What? Like,

Speaker 4 if I were you,

Speaker 4 the night before the Super Bowl is fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but it's gonna, I'm not.

Speaker 2 I'm not gonna get as drunk.

Speaker 1 He tried to fight you. That was.

Speaker 2 No, I just said that I could fight him.

Speaker 4 Funniest night of my life.

Speaker 4 I would sign up for that.

Speaker 7 The thing about me is I beat the fuck out of Hank.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I'm not gonna get that drunk.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna get that. Numbies.

Speaker 7 I never said that.

Speaker 7 Are you gonna creep out any mentalists?

Speaker 10 You're gonna puke in an Uber.

Speaker 2 No, it's no.

Speaker 1 Shut up, memes.

Speaker 1 Memes having a ball right now.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 7 That was so funny. No, he's going to make good decisions.
Who's going to go when he's blackout drunk the night before the Super Bowl in New Orleans?

Speaker 1 Who's going to go to the Super Bowl with you?

Speaker 2 Me, Smacky, and Roan.

Speaker 1 Love that. That's a hell of a crew.

Speaker 1 That's a hell of a crew.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's do who's back.

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Speaker 1 Who's back of the week, Kick?

Speaker 7 Who's back of the week is USA. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 USA.

Speaker 4 Australian Open.

Speaker 4 Ariana Sabalenka.

Speaker 4 Notorious best women's tennis player. Go number one seed.

Speaker 4 We were watching this during the dart stream at 2:30 in the morning. I bet a lot on Sabalenka because I'm like, oh, it's a lock.
She's so good. She's the best to do it.

Speaker 4 Got smoked by Madison Keys,

Speaker 4 American, 19th seed in the tournament, major upset, USA Aussie Open champion, America's back.

Speaker 7 I like that, Hank. That's very good.
Very good for the country. Very good, Hank.
What happened to Novak?

Speaker 1 He got hurt.

Speaker 4 He has like a crazy hip contusion.

Speaker 7 He tweeted out a picture of his MRI, and I looked at it. I was like, oh, I see.
I had no idea what the fuck it was.

Speaker 1 Also, he basically won the whole thing because he beat Alcaraz.

Speaker 7 Wait, would tweeting out a picture of your MRI? Isn't that HIPAA?

Speaker 1 He doesn't care about that shit. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Hey, Hank, you want to recap your dart stream at all? It was great.

Speaker 4 The dart stream went well. Yeah, it went a lot better than I thought.
I got a triple because we split it up into three legs: 180, 180, 141.

Speaker 4 The second leg was always going to be help, which I thought was going to take a lot of time. I thought it was going to be, you know, I was tired.
We're going to have guests come in.

Speaker 4 You guys are going to come in. Anyone could throw darts.
If they hit two, I always have to hit the third one.

Speaker 4 I hit a 180 in my own in the first hour, which was a miracle on its own.

Speaker 4 Then Max

Speaker 4 hit two triple 20s, and I just stepped up and hit the third one first time.

Speaker 4 Absolute miracle, if we're being completely honest. And then PFT came in the morning with Blake.

Speaker 4 He, you know, at his request, we turned him into a golf stream, hit a hole in one in the first five attempts. No big deal.
So the stream, I was expecting to, like,

Speaker 4 I was, again, dreading it. I thought it was still going to be going going right now.

Speaker 4 Like, I thought I was going to be living at this office, you know, doing this podcast and being like, all right, see you guys. I'm going to go to sleep here, wake up, continue the stream.

Speaker 4 So, when I got home on Saturday afternoon and I was done, it was a great relief. Thank you to everyone who tuned in.

Speaker 4 It was honestly fun. We had a good time.
Liam Bluttman,

Speaker 4 he got the game dart. He just hung out just to hang out.

Speaker 4 I love you. I kept trying to tell him, like, you don't have to stay, dude.

Speaker 7 And he was like, no, I'm chilling. Darts are ball.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And Game Dart was a touching award i was i was bouncing in and out on friday night when you got started keeping tabs on i got oiled up yeah when i i was about to say when i tuned in i was i was greeted with hank just completely shirtless covered in oil throwing darts for about an hour can you explain that to me everyone in the chat was like oil up max oil up pug oil up hang somebody said boil pug someone said boil pug yeah and and i was i was one leg in and i was like if we get the second leg done before cyberlinka starts which was at 2 30 in the morning i was like i'll I'll get oiled up.

Speaker 4 Thinking that it was not going to happen, and it happened. So I, man, in my word, I got oiled up.

Speaker 7 You were glistening.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 2 It also made the darts so oily.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Which was

Speaker 1 no duh.

Speaker 2 But like, and so hard to throw. Yeah.
It was a, it was a big detriment to you. You crushed it, Hank.

Speaker 4 You crushed it. Yeah, my arm.
I think if my left arm is definitely pretty injured. If we had gotten another like six to eight hours, I probably would have been like Tommy John Taylor.

Speaker 1 I tuned in on Friday night when I got home from the movies, and I, you, I like almost instantly you hit your first uh 180, and I was so pumped for you.

Speaker 7 What about the sleep talking?

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, I was worried about the sleep talking, I wasn't even planning on sleeping, but I stayed up, it was like eight o'clock.

Speaker 4 I was getting, we turned the chat, we turned the stream over every 12 hours. You have to like start a new stream just so that it stays live on YouTube.
And the overnight vibes were great.

Speaker 4 We were watching tennis, having a good time, everyone was positive. We switched over at like 7 a.m.

Speaker 4 And I hadn't slept, so I was maybe a little irritated too. And everyone was so negative, and they were so annoying.

Speaker 4 And that's when I realized I was like, I'm fatigued. I'm tired.
Like, I'm not. We had the Roxanne 10 Minute Edge where I got a mulligan.
I didn't get through it.

Speaker 4 And I was like, I need to take a break. I'm going to take a nap two hours and then we'll finish this thing.

Speaker 4 Didn't put on any mouth tape. And my friend Kurt, who you guys have all met,

Speaker 4 he was in the chat at like 4 a.m. Like he just popped in and was like, oh, what's up? And I was like, oh, Kurt.
So it must have just been on the top of my mind. And in my sleep, I was yelling.

Speaker 4 I was just like, Kurt,

Speaker 1 Kurt,

Speaker 4 which was my biggest fear because

Speaker 4 I've gone into trouble before where I just, I don't know,

Speaker 4 I don't know why I say what I say.

Speaker 4 I don't have any recollection of the dreams or what's going on in my head when I say it, but I have woken up many times with people being like, what the fuck was that? Who is this person?

Speaker 4 Like, what is that about? And I'm like, I have no idea. So, I'm happy it was just Kurt.
Like, that's where it's like, shit gets weird in my sleep. I was worried about it, and that was why.

Speaker 7 That's very funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he probably thinks you're dreaming about him. No, I texted him a clip.
I was like, Yeah, I mean, he was in chat.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, but it's always like it's like one of those random things. It's like, it's not, there's no rhyme or reason.

Speaker 4 It's just like it was probably because I was like talking about him or to him, like, late at night, and then it was just like, Yeah, yeah, he's the last thing in your head.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Uh, okay, PFT, your who's back.

Speaker 7 My who's back of the week is going to be not understanding jokes.

Speaker 7 Because Hank has been on this Guna side for the last five days.

Speaker 7 And when he explained it, me and Big Cat were just like, wait,

Speaker 7 what's the joke?

Speaker 4 I don't think it's. I don't, I don't.

Speaker 7 You think it's very funny? I don't know. It might be funny.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't, yeah, I don't know either. I don't think it's funny.

Speaker 1 I mean, you think it's funny. No, I don't.
Basically, what happened was

Speaker 1 you're way too deep online.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 You probably know this. A guy,

Speaker 1 there's a coffee shop in Arizona where the baristas wear bikinis. A guy got caught on video jerking off while trying to order coffee.
He became a meme and then he killed himself. So it's not funny.

Speaker 4 I agreed. Not funny at all.

Speaker 1 But he keeps bringing up the Guna side.

Speaker 7 Hank was like, did you guys see about the Guna side? Then earlier, like 30 minutes ago, Hank was like, they held a Guna room.

Speaker 1 They had a Guna before him. Hank explained to us last week, and we just sat here.
We're like, wait,

Speaker 1 the guy died? That's fucked up. And he was just like, yeah, I probably should have said this out.
Hank, do you think that's one of those things just needs to stay online?

Speaker 7 You think he's going to be cremated?

Speaker 4 Again, like, I can't help. Memes make me laugh, and sometimes they're messed up.

Speaker 7 Hank, who's going to eulogism?

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 It's a sad story.

Speaker 1 Not understanding jokes. Did I tell you guys the

Speaker 1 one that I had? The guneral.

Speaker 7 The guneral, the cementary. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The one I had last week that made me want to kill myself was

Speaker 1 our good friend Keith Yandle, who's now part of Barstool Sports. Shout out to Spit and Chiclets.
They've added Yans.

Speaker 1 I was talking to Jans about mini golf and now that he's part of Barstool, I was like, we got to get you in on these things. And I was like, you got to come and do March Madness with us.

Speaker 1 And he replied and he's like, when is that? And I was like, it's March. And he's like, yeah, I fucking know.
I was joking.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I want to, I might just kill myself and leave it as a suicide moment.

Speaker 7 But to be fair, you were texting with Yans, and in your mind, it was like 50% like texting with Biz.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but maybe that's just a bit. Yans has got, like,

Speaker 1 he said to me, and then he made it worse. He's like, I think, he's like, I used to get all the Canadian dudes in the locker room with that one.
I think you're the first American I've ever gotten.

Speaker 1 And I was like, God fucking damn it.

Speaker 1 But Yans is the best. So hopefully he'll be here for March Madness, which is in March.
Also a little bit in April. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, my who's back, national sports podcast, college basketball. College basketball is back for me feast week.

Speaker 1 I love college basketball, but now that the football is over, weekends are for a lot of America college basketball.

Speaker 1 Quick thoughts on college basketball: Duke is a problem, but the ACC fucking sucks. So I'm just going to tell myself that they're good only because they're killing everyone in the ACC.

Speaker 1 The SEC is so goddamn loaded. Auburn and Alabama are both really fucking good.

Speaker 1 Tennessee is good. Florida's really, really good.
Houston's the same team every year.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think what other thoughts are.

Speaker 1 Kansas, well, Kansas, that was one of.

Speaker 1 I hate Kansas so much now.

Speaker 1 They were up six

Speaker 1 going to the line with 18 seconds left and somehow lost that game in double overtime.

Speaker 7 Is that worse than what A ⁇ M did, though?

Speaker 1 AM was, no, because I should have even said Kansas also in regulation, they were up three and they got a five-second call with two timeouts.

Speaker 1 Yes, AM, I like AM. I think AM's going to be a good tournament team, but yeah, they completely choked against Texas.

Speaker 7 That was meltdown. That was bad.

Speaker 1 Total meltdown. And then also for the sickos and perverts out there, I have started to believe in the Wisconsin Badgers who are ranked and their offense is actually awesome.
And they whap threes.

Speaker 1 And so, get ready for me to have my heart broken on that because I actually believe that they could make a run, which they won't. And you guys will get to watch that on live stream.

Speaker 1 Also, last one I had was Villanova.

Speaker 1 Dead next.

Speaker 1 So, when you told me to bet Eric Dixon

Speaker 1 player of the year, and I bet it, was that a bad bet?

Speaker 1 Bad bet.

Speaker 1 I didn't even get a week of thinking that was a good bet. Incorrect.

Speaker 2 UConn, yeah. UConn.

Speaker 2 It was 100 to 1.

Speaker 1 If you give someone 100 to 1, you can't be like, oh, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 It's 100 to 1. It obviously wasn't going to win.

Speaker 1 Villanova was supposed to make the tournament, you said.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then they started sucking again.

Speaker 1 But it's okay. By the way, people are mad about Dan Hurley.
If you missed it, last week, he yelled at a ref, don't turn your back on me. I'm the best fucking coach in the league or in the country.

Speaker 1 Jay Billis did a whole preachy thing where he was like, this is just.

Speaker 7 You're being disingenuous.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did a preachy thing. I can't say this clearly enough.
College basketball needs asshole coaches. That's what it was built on.

Speaker 1 The players changed. Especially in the big East.
The transfer portal has changed everything. You don't know who you're rooting for.
I need a Bayheim. I need a Coach K.

Speaker 1 I need a, like, as much as I hate a Coach K, he has that, that, like, ah, I hate him. I want to root against him.
Dan Hurley is that. If you hate him, that's good for college basketball.

Speaker 1 So I want him to do whatever he wants to do.

Speaker 7 He's also being just as hard on his own players as he's the refs.

Speaker 1 Although he had a great line.

Speaker 1 Was it against Villanova that Caraban missed the free throws?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, Caraban missed two free throws.
He's a great free throw shooter. And

Speaker 1 Hurley told, what? He missed one.

Speaker 2 It was a ball, don't lie. It was a terrible call.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, it was a bad call. And Hurley just told him after he's like, if you want to cry about it, go cry about it with your two national championship rings.

Speaker 1 Like, get back to practice.

Speaker 7 Auburn's really good, though. Auburn's really good.

Speaker 1 No, Auburn and Alabama. They're both really good.

Speaker 1 The SEC is loaded. I mean, the SEC has teams.
Mississippi State's good. Kentucky's good.
Vandi just beat Kentucky. Like, the SEC top to bottom is so goddamn good

Speaker 1 that it's going to be like, I don't know how each team is going to survive. Mississippi's good.
Missouri State. Mississippi State, Mississippi.
Like all these teams are really fucking good.

Speaker 1 Missouri's decent. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm excited for college basketball and it's always fun because i love just getting really mad just kids yeah i i watch tunnel dickinson not a kid not a kid he's just 25 doesn't

Speaker 7 whatever i've been watching defense is just because you stand up and down straight up and down doesn't mean you're playing good defense i've been watching about two college basketball games a week for the last month or so this weekend is really when i sink my teeth into college basketball yeah this week when you got the pro bowl on it's like you can focus on it for the first time i love it i love it they also need to to figure out the schedule because they don't, like, it used to be that Monday and Thursday still had a lot of games.

Speaker 1 They've taken away Monday and Thursday, and Tuesday and Wednesday has all the games. And it's just a, because Friday now has games.
Just give us, even out the games. Even out the games.

Speaker 1 Also, Doug's is back. 3 p.m.
today. I'm going to be doing a Doug stream.
So tune in.

Speaker 1 We just got one last one that we're going to do a little, you know, there's no football on for two weeks. So we're going to do a Doug stream.
Going to get there, try to win some games, have some fun.

Speaker 1 We haven't decided exactly the format either. I'm going to try to win a natty playing in the tournament.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Not play Jerry.

Speaker 1 Jerry will be there, though, for defensive coordinating in the.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm going to basically start at the playoff and try to win a natty for a couple hours. So tune in on the Pardon My Take YouTube and subscribe to the Pardon My Take YouTube.
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Speaker 1 You're just showing your dong?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we agreed to that on the Torch stream. Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 You're going to oil up?

Speaker 1 His dong? No, in Madden. Oh.
Or in Doug's.

Speaker 7 In Doug's. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I get to oil up.

Speaker 2 I don't know why you just agreed to that, memes.

Speaker 1 I want it now.

Speaker 2 You said it like if we get to a million by the end of the stream. You said if we get to a million by the end of the stream, you would show dong.

Speaker 1 Just million. Like, eventually it will get to a million.
I'll helicopter my shit for a million. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just start in OnlyFans and put your dong on there. Million.
We need a million.

Speaker 1 What if memes dong had like a I imagine it has like a Jets helmet on at all times

Speaker 1 Memes Memes dong is just a meme of a dong

Speaker 1 All right, let's finish up.

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