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Speaker 1 We are going to talk about Monday night football, some things going on in the NFL, some cleanup from week 10. We have college football talk.
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Speaker 1 and the Miami Dolphins might be, I'm not going to say back. They're spoilers.
They're spoilers. They win Monday night football.
Tua looks good. And I don't know what...

Speaker 1 the fuck to make of the Rams other than the fact that what the hell is going on with Sean McVay? Why are you kicking field goals on third down?

Speaker 4 The Dolphins are technically not out of it.

Speaker 1 They're the perfect spoilers.

Speaker 4 They might spoil a bunch of games, but if you look at the seventh seed in the AFC right now, we don't know. And this was a perfect weekend for it.

Speaker 4 You had all their competition for that final seed ended up losing. The Dolphins win.
Tua comes back. Proves to us he can still make a tackle.

Speaker 4 Credit to Tua sticking his head in there. That seemed like it was a bad idea.
But yeah, McVay kicking a field goal on third down. I don't know if that was the right decision or not.

Speaker 4 They probably weren't going to win the game at all.

Speaker 1 No, that was the wrong decision. And here's why.

Speaker 1 If you are going to play the game of we should kick a field goal before we kick uh before we try to get a touchdown do it with like a minute and a half left at the minute you get into field goal

Speaker 1 first down yeah do but do it when you get into field goal range if you're going to go that route otherwise you have third why would you give away a down that you could like the harder thing to do is score a touchdown why are you giving away a down there just go for it on third down and then kick the field goal it felt like he got caught like somewhere in the middle where he just didn't really make up his mind like you have to be decisive that

Speaker 1 if you're like, hey, we got to get a field goal first, do it with a minute and a half left.

Speaker 4 I think, so, what we're saying is he made the right decision, but just way too late.

Speaker 1 Way too late, and then

Speaker 1 early.

Speaker 4 To the point where it didn't be, it ended up not being the right decision because he waited so long to make the right decision.

Speaker 1 And then he somehow waited way too long, and then also at the same time, still did it early.

Speaker 4 I mean, shout out to procrastinators. I think it's a very relatable mistake to make.

Speaker 1 Didn't it feel like he just was like,

Speaker 1 I kind of didn't really have a plan here? Fuck it. Let's kick the field goal now.

Speaker 4 He was like, oh, shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I should have done this a while ago. I'll do it right now.
But someone should have said, hey, no, actually, don't do it right now. Wait at least one more down.

Speaker 4 You know the old saying where there's never a good way to make the wrong decision? Yeah. This is like the opposite of that.
There is a bad way to make the right decision. Yes.

Speaker 4 And that's what McVay ended up doing. Yeah.
I'm concerned about McVay's beard. So you know how he talked to us about the beard procedure that he had? He got like PRP injected into his cheeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 it's scooped down way low it's it's it's looking pretty patchy on the sides i'm concerned about his hair yeah well the hair's another thing i i do he needs to he needs to go with wonton don and nikki smokes and white sock dave to turkey uh that's like a midlife crisis in a bottle right there i i think that um

Speaker 4 nfl coaches and coaches in general have done no favors by camera angles when it comes to thinning hairlines yeah I would agree with that. It's a bad spot to be in.

Speaker 4 But yeah, the Dolphins, they're not dead. The Dolphins are not dead.

Speaker 4 They're probably not going to make the playoffs, but you still have some games that mean a little bit to you before you officially start playing spoiler and just being like, okay, I'm going to go into every weekend trying to be an asshole.

Speaker 1 Well, they have the Raiders and the Patriots next, so if they can win those two games, they're now sitting there five and six

Speaker 1 going into Lambeau. They have to go to Thanksgiving weekend.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, and I thought Tua played great.

Speaker 1 Like, I know that his numbers weren't super flashy, but even in the second half, when they needed to get first downs, when they needed to extend drives to keep the ball away from the Rams, they were able to do it.

Speaker 1 And there's something about the Dolphins. I think it's a night game, and I think it's indoors.
They just look so fast and their uniforms pop. And yeah,

Speaker 1 I feel like they got another weapon, too.

Speaker 4 No spoilers. Malik Washington.
Yeah. So the guy that ran in that first touchdown, he looked so fast.
So fast. Like, how do they keep finding these guys?

Speaker 4 I went up and looked up his combine stats because I was like, how did the Dolphins, how did the league allow the Dolphins to get another guy that appears to run like a 4-3?

Speaker 4 I think he ran like a 4-5-9 or a 4-5 at the combine. Now I'm so deep in the conspiracy where I'm thinking that

Speaker 4 they talk to guys who are fast and they say, hey, just run like a little bit slower and then I'll draft you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 We'll take an offense that works and nobody else will know that you're secretly very fast.

Speaker 1 They build the whole plane out of speed. Yeah.
And it works.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, looking at the Dolphins, I think they are just the prime spoiler team. I think they have a game against the Texans and the 49ers later in the season.
They're going to win one of those two.

Speaker 1 It's not going to mean anything for them, but it will mean a lot for the team that loses.

Speaker 1 So that's not, listen, being spoiler.

Speaker 1 At this point,

Speaker 1 if you can't get to the playoffs, be a spoiler.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but they're not there yet. They still have that hope to clean up the players.

Speaker 1 They still do. If they can win the next two games, they still have a little hope.

Speaker 1 Okay, other cleanup stuff. Am I wrong to think that Micah Parsons didn't say anything wrong?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 The fact that

Speaker 4 he's on the Cowboys makes you think

Speaker 4 this has to be a story anytime he says something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so here's what he said. After the game, after another loss, he was asked about Mike McCarthy's hot seat.
And he said, that's above my pay grade, whether Mike is coaching again next year.

Speaker 1 Coaching, Mike can leave and go wherever he wants.

Speaker 1 Guys I kind of feel bad for are veteran right guard, Zach Martin, guys who might be on their last year or on their way out because that's who I want to hold the trophy for.

Speaker 1 And essentially being like, I don't give a fuck about Mike McCarthy. I guess people are saying

Speaker 1 he went on to say, you want to win games and do great things with those type of legends who put in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever did.

Speaker 1 I guess that would be maybe the shot. Those are the kind of guys that I have so much sympathy and hurt for.
I have no problem with it.

Speaker 1 It was honest. Like, Mike McCarthy can coach seemingly for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 NFL player has a limited time to be on an NFL roster.

Speaker 1 And he's like, yeah, the guys next to me who might be on their last year, those are the guys I feel for, knowing that Mike McCarthy is going to be fine no matter what.

Speaker 1 I guess, like, maybe saying, you know, they work harder than Mike McCarthy ever works, I could see understanding that would be like, maybe don't say that.

Speaker 1 But this is one of those, this falls under the category of you want your athletes and coaches to give honest answers.

Speaker 1 And when they give honest answers, we should be like, that was an honest answer, not, holy shit, how could he say that?

Speaker 4 I think it's a fair answer to give, but it's also knowing that you're a star player on the Dallas Cowboys, know that any piece of media you put out there is going to take an out of context. Correct.

Speaker 4 And then you're going to have to answer.

Speaker 4 Actually, it's a great move for his podcast to be open and honest because not only do you get the initial news bump when you say something, but then you also get the clarification podcast. Yes.

Speaker 4 Where you go back on and address the controversy. You might ask yourself, is it wise for a star player to have a podcast and say at times inflammatory things?

Speaker 4 Or is that mostly the position that should be withheld for people? people that are media trained like the owner of the team

Speaker 4 when he does his weekly radio hit and he does the exact same thing. Yes.

Speaker 4 they're just they're they're gorging the media like they're they're just filling up the news cycle with things to talk about with the dallas cowboys and somehow micah parsons quote about mike mccarthy mike mccarthy's response quote about us handling it like men we had a conversation like men too which is a great thing to say like yeah uh how did you address this well i'm a man and he's a man so we had a man-to-man i just assumed when micah parsons says we had a conversation like men it was just mike mccarthy on the shitter and micah parsons maybe sitting next to him in the stall next next to him being like hey should we talk about this real quick they're playing battleship yeah with each other yeah but you're right you're exactly right that this is like a cats in a cradle situation micah parsons learned it from jerry jones exactly you can't you can't say micah parsons how are you saying this well you We say everything here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you can't discipline Micah Parsons for doing the exact same thing that your owner does on a weekly basis.

Speaker 4 As he's fighting, he's fighting now like a two-front battle, one against the PR machine around Micah Parsons, and Jerry Jones is also fighting a battle against the Sun, and he's currently losing that battle to the Sun.

Speaker 4 Although they have adapted. They've adapted a little bit.
Mike McCarthy did that press conference yesterday, and the sun was beaming straight into his eyes where the podium was.

Speaker 4 So they set up a little sun blocker for Mike McCarthy. I mean,

Speaker 4 what are you going to do? You put up a sun blocker? You wanted to bulldoze the entire stadium next? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The facility? You can't do that. You can't do that.
I did like that move by

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones being like, hey, here, we'll answer the critics on the sun.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we got you. Bang.
We figured out a solution to it. But

Speaker 1 I really have no problem with Michael Parsons saying it because there's a lot of truth in it that

Speaker 1 I think an NFL player, as much as you don't maybe want to say that quiet part out loud, they are always going to care more about the guys next to them in the locker room than they are about a coach.

Speaker 4 He also complimented his coach. Yeah.
It's not like he said, you know, at this point, I can't control what the coaches do.

Speaker 4 They make some decisions that I don't like, but I'm going to go out there and play for the guy next to me. It's not like he threw Mike McCarthy under, I guess, a very, very large bus.

Speaker 4 It's just the fact that he did not praise Mike McCarthy enough as he talked about it.

Speaker 1 Or say the cliche thing, which the reporter was fishing for, is Micah Parsons being like, no, we're still fighting for our guy, Mike McCarthy. Yeah.
Which would have been not true.

Speaker 1 Like, they're fighting to win games, but this is also the point in the NFL season where guys do start making business decisions, where it's like, listen,

Speaker 1 we're not going to go to the playoffs. We're not a good team.
I got to get my stats. I got to put it on tape.
I got to play for my next contract.

Speaker 1 And again, Mike McCarthy will be fine because if he doesn't get another head coaching job, he'll get a consulting job.

Speaker 1 He'll get paid $3 million to sit and find the next Jets or the Bears, next head coach. Like, that's what he's going to be fine.

Speaker 4 And then he'll say it should be me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. So

Speaker 1 he's set up for life.

Speaker 4 I don't have a problem at all with what Micah Parsons said, but what I did have a problem with is that he referred to his defensive coordinator as Zimmerman.

Speaker 4 So I don't think he knows the name of his defensive coordinator. He might not.
I think he thinks his name is Mike Zimmerman.

Speaker 1 Well, he was hurt for a while, Micah Parsons. I know.
So that might be.

Speaker 4 You would think that he would at least get his defensive coordinator's name correct.

Speaker 1 It was close enough.

Speaker 4 I guess.

Speaker 1 Maybe they just call each other man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's the Zimmerman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the Zimmerman. That might be it.
Yeah. Okay, other news.
The Bears fired Shane Waldron,

Speaker 1 which was just a band-aid on a gaping wide hole that's going to keep bleeding out forever.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Shane Waldron, Luke Goetze both get the axe early. You had to.

Speaker 1 Both Eberflus' hires.

Speaker 4 Now, here's what's crazy

Speaker 4 is that when you look at Shane Waldron being fired and how that all shook out yesterday, Adam Schafter said that the Bears are going to make a decision. They're going to move on.

Speaker 4 They're going to make some changes on offense. It could be their coordinator and it could be their quarterback.

Speaker 4 Why did Adam Schaefer, why did the Bears even throw that out there? In what world is benching Caleb Williams right now a solution to anything?

Speaker 1 I actually think there's a, I don't want him to be benched, but there actually is a world where it solves a little something in the fact that

Speaker 1 you now have,

Speaker 1 we're, for all the jokes we made about the Panthers and fleecing the Panthers, we are the Panthers from last year in that you had Frank Wright, who was like a lame duck coach, and he was calling plays, and then he gave Thomas Brown play calling duty for three weeks, and then he took the play calling duty back.

Speaker 1 Now, the Bears, lame duck head coach, rookie quarterback,

Speaker 1 give the play calling to Thomas Brown, who's now the Bears' offensive coordinator, probably going to take it back after he sucks. So

Speaker 1 I'm just worried that, I mean, it probably doesn't matter at the end of the day, but yeah, I think you could probably hurt Caleb Williams even more by having him run an offense that doesn't work whatsoever.

Speaker 1 I want him to play, but it's gotten so bad that I actually could be convinced that, like, yeah, maybe we should just send him out and just start next year fresh and be like new team, new everything, new, you know, like you never even played an NFL game, Caleb once.

Speaker 4 Yes, Hank, you have a question.

Speaker 5 Yes, I saw that the Waddell and Sylvie account posted that veteran players have went to the coach and asked for Bajan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sylvie. Sylvie said there were people asking that.
Yeah, DJ Moore, probably.

Speaker 1 Listen, that's bad.

Speaker 1 The whole thing is bad.

Speaker 5 Like, the players should want Caleb.

Speaker 5 It's correct that, like, if the system's bad, like, maybe is bad for his progress. But

Speaker 5 the players in the lockroom want to win. You would think they, you know, the fact that they don't want Caleb as their QB is bad.

Speaker 1 Caleb is broken right now. Well, it's probably just DJ Moore.
Yeah, and Eberfloos has broken him to a point. I mean, you can see it when he plays.

Speaker 1 They stressed it all summer. Like, hey, we want to take the aggressiveness out of him.
His brain is locked up every time he drops back.

Speaker 4 I think the players want, if a player did go to the coaching staff and say, we want to have Bajant play instead of Caleb Williams, Williams, do you think it's because that's the fix that they learned last year that worked in the short term when they put Bajin in and the offense looked a little bit better?

Speaker 4 So the solution that they have in their minds is, let's get Bajin in? Or is this a completely different problem that the Bears have this year compared to what they had last year? They are

Speaker 1 the same problem every year for the Bears. They are actually running essentially the worst anniversary year of all time.

Speaker 1 It's the 10-year anniversary of the 2014 team, who that was Mark Tressman's last year

Speaker 1 and down to like a T. It was actually

Speaker 1 when the season started to spiral, it was losing to the Dolphins, Brandon Marshall and Robbie Gold getting in a fight in the locker room. Always great when your kicker gets in a fight.

Speaker 1 Losing to the Patriots. That was the famous Lamar Houston Tours ACL after sacking Jimmy Garoppolo when we were down 40 points.
And then, so we lost the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Then the next week was the game that Aaron Rodgers threw like six touchdowns in the first half. So it went Patriots, Packers, Packers, and everything.

Speaker 1 And then Jay Cutler got benched for Jimmy Clausen because Mark Tressman was trying to save his job. So this is, it's just history repeating itself.

Speaker 1 I do think they probably at some point will probably be like, yeah, we'll just put in Tyson Bajant.

Speaker 4 That actually sounds worse.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 5 That, what you just described is a much worse situation than now.

Speaker 4 No, it's the same.

Speaker 5 Jimmy Clausen?

Speaker 1 It's the same, Hank.

Speaker 4 It's the same. I kind of agree with Hank.

Speaker 1 We had a guy, Terra's ACL,

Speaker 1 celebrating a sack down 40 points. He sacked a backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 It's the same. It's just a cluster fuck.
And just firing guy. And then, you know, Cromer got fired.
Like the whole thing, the Bears are a joke of an organization. I've been over this a million times.

Speaker 1 I think this is kind of the last time I'm ever going to believe.

Speaker 4 I don't think that is the same because Caleb is still, he's got the talent to be. What was the knock on Caleb when he came out of college?

Speaker 1 He holds on too bad. Everyone's fingernails.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think crying. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He holds on to the ball too long.

Speaker 1 But he now holds on the ball because they told him don't throw picks.

Speaker 4 But I I think it's a different holding on to the ball too long problem than what they had last year. That's why I think that this going to Bajant doesn't fix anything.

Speaker 4 Because last year, the holding on to the ball too long problem was because Justin Fields just couldn't get the ball out on time because he couldn't process it.

Speaker 4 With Caleb, I think the problem is more that he just believes that he's going to be able to make a play and he holds on to it and tries to run around, ends up getting sacked, runs out of bounds, whatever.

Speaker 4 I think it's a different reason for holding on to the ball too long.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it's everything.

Speaker 1 Caleb is tentative and not seeing anything well, playing bad. The offensive line, playing bad, and the

Speaker 1 schemes don't work.

Speaker 1 I watched some tape. I watched the tape.

Speaker 1 Essentially, Keenan Allen

Speaker 1 is playing DJ Moore's position from last year. DJ Moore had a great year last year.
We're getting him in motion and letting him beat guys off the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 Keenan Allen's not as fast. Keenan Allen is old.
He's not as fast as DJ Moore. Why is Keenan Allen running DJ Moore's plays?

Speaker 1 And DJ Moore is just being put out wide and just being like, okay, just get jammed at the line of scrimmage. Like, don't,

Speaker 1 the whole thing is a mess. It will never get fixed.
We hired a fucking, the guy who's running the whole operation is Kevin Warren, who, remember, tried to cancel football.

Speaker 1 He doesn't fucking like football. And it's all, it's never going to change.
So

Speaker 1 I think I might have reached the point where it's, I'll never believe again.

Speaker 4 But if they go up 7-0 on the Packers,

Speaker 4 no.

Speaker 1 I think I'll never believe again.

Speaker 4 I would bet $1,000. I'll put $1,000 into the part of my take.

Speaker 4 What are we calling that? The tip jar? Yeah. That when the Packers, if they go down to the Bears, Big Cat will be like, the Bears are back.

Speaker 1 I think I'm never going to believe again. I mean, we did it with Mitch.
We did it with Justin. We did it with Caleb.

Speaker 1 I think it's rotten to the core. It has nothing to do with who they ⁇ they're going to hire the fourth best offensive coordinator

Speaker 1 to be the new head coach, and we're going to try to be sold on that, and I'm not going to fall for it anymore. Do you think there's any chance that that is true?

Speaker 4 No. No.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Unfortunately, probably. Do you see the one guy I saw on Friday night? He was wearing a Drake May Bears jersey.

Speaker 4 That's tough. Kind of wild.

Speaker 1 But Drake May would suck on the Bears.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think anybody. Jayden Daniels would suck on the Bears.

Speaker 1 This is the Patrick Mahomes. Really good.
This is the Patrick Mahomes,

Speaker 1 you know, like we've passed on Patrick, or we didn't pick Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes would suck on the Bears because the Bears Bears are a joke of an organization.
That's just how it works.

Speaker 1 There's not, nothing's going to change. They don't care about winning.
And, yeah, Shane Waldron, like, that doesn't solve anything.

Speaker 1 That was also the first time they've ever fired an offensive coordinator midseason.

Speaker 4 That's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great. Awesome.
Progress. It is very funny that Luke Goetze and Shane Waldron are the only two offensive coordinators fired this year, and they both were hand-selected by Matt Eberflus.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And Luke Goetze was fired, obviously, by the Raiders, like week six. So So knows how to pick him.

Speaker 4 Should have fired Matt when you had the chance last year.

Speaker 1 Should have fired Matt when we had the chance. Didn't do it.
Didn't do it because we're fucking a joke. He was like, come on, I'll get hot.

Speaker 1 Get funked up.

Speaker 1 Any other NFL things?

Speaker 1 How are you doing?

Speaker 1 Meh. Okay.
You're in hell with me? Yeah, I'm just looking at coaches. Okay, what do you got? What'd you find? Deion Sanders.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Culture changer. Unfortunately, Deion's going to the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, Deion might be going to the LSU Tigers.

Speaker 1 There was a flight tracker today that a flight from Boulder went to, stopped in Dallas, where Deion has a house, then went to Baton Rouge, and then stopped in Houston, and then went back to Boulder, where Deion also has a house.

Speaker 4 That's very interesting.

Speaker 1 I love flight tracking. I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 4 I've said a million times: if the SEC message boards had been in charge of NORAD on 9-11, we would have shut that shit down. They are all over the private jets.

Speaker 4 And if they are saying it, then I have no choice to believe believe it. But I do think that

Speaker 4 Deion to the Cowboys would just be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 Deion and Shador, I think he's just going to go wherever Shador goes. Yeah.
Which,

Speaker 1 why not?

Speaker 4 That would make for an interesting dynamic in the NFL if your coach's son is also your quarterback.

Speaker 1 I hope

Speaker 1 LeBron comes out and he's like, this is not right. Yeah.
The head coach should not be coaching his son. So you're looking at coaches? Deion Sanders? What else? Deion Sanders, Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 1 Somebody threw out the idea of John Gurden.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Mike Vrabel, by the way,

Speaker 1 he's the winner of this whole thing because he's going to get whatever he wants.

Speaker 4 Whatever he wants. Yeah, there's a lot of teams out there that need men.
There's a man problem in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a big-time man

Speaker 4 problem. Society, that's right.

Speaker 1 By the way, did you see?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 here's how bad it might go down as one of the worst head coaching

Speaker 1 carousels of all time. 2022.

Speaker 1 Here,

Speaker 1 I'm going to give you all the coaches. So these are the good ones.
Mike McDaniel, Kevin O'Connell, good coaches. Good hires.
Here are the other, this is 2022 coaching vacancies.

Speaker 1 Brian Dable got hired by the Giants. He's probably going to get fired.
Doug Peterson already fired. Todd Bowles, that was kind of coach in place.
Josh McDaniels already fired.

Speaker 1 Matt Eberfloos going to get fired. Dennis Allen already got fired.
Lovey Smith already got fired. Nathaniel Hackett already got fired.

Speaker 1 10 head coaching vacancies, and half of them have already been fired.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do like the idea, though.

Speaker 4 I think Josh McDaniels is a shitty head coach, and I don't know. At some point, another team might take a chance on him, but I like the idea of him getting back with Belichick.
Yeah, that would work.

Speaker 4 Belichick can keep him in line a little bit.

Speaker 1 That would work. That would absolutely work.

Speaker 4 Because I feel like they do good cops.

Speaker 4 They do good cop, bad cop, but somehow Bill Belichick is the good cop in that relationship.

Speaker 4 That's how shitty of a police officer Josh McDaniels is.

Speaker 1 You don't understand. The Bears will never hire someone who's an alpha or a football guy.
They won't.

Speaker 1 Because they just want to have Kevin Warren in an empty suit be the guy who's in charge somehow. This is never going to happen.
They're never going to hire a guy who's like,

Speaker 1 it's my way or the highway. I'm running this.
I'm bigger than the organization. It just won't happen because that would be a good move.
And they don't.

Speaker 1 It's a fork in the road. And if it's a good move, they always go the other way.

Speaker 4 Memes, what do you think about Rex Ryan?

Speaker 1 Some Glory Days? I can make a sick, sick hype video. Sometimes you got to go back to move forward.
I would love Rex Ryan. Yeah, you would.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you would. I mean, at this point, it does feel like that's the next move for the Jets, right? Is Glory Days.

Speaker 1 Yep, and that fits into the historical hire Rex Ryan after you get rid of the Green Bay quarterback, two FC AFC championships. White gets a tattoo of the next quarterback.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Foot fetish comes back.

Speaker 1 And then you're back. Then you're back.

Speaker 4 Who else would be a good Glory Days? Eric Mangini? Nope. The Man Genius? Nope.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 Glory Days. He would never.
No. He hates them so much.
I just want someone who wants to. Pete Carroll.
Todd Bulls. Pete Carroll? No.
Bill Parcells.

Speaker 1 Bill Parcels. Is he still alive? Yeah, he is.
He's very much alive. Pete Carroll.
Yeah, he taught. Remember, Darren Rizzi called Dan Campbell and Bill Parcells.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Parcells is still very much alive.
He just spends all day at the track, I bet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And taking phone calls from coaches as as a mentor.

Speaker 1 All right, last thing about NFL before we do college football, how are you guys? We're two days away from a PMT, all-time PMT rivalry match for the NFC East. How are both sides feeling?

Speaker 1 It's hate week. How are both sides feeling? I feel good.
I feel love. You feel love? Whoa, what does that mean? I don't know.
You can choose hate.

Speaker 5 I'll choose love.

Speaker 1 Okay. PFT, do you think you're going to win this game?

Speaker 1 I actually do. Okay.

Speaker 4 I think that the commanders are going to win this game.

Speaker 4 I also went went back and re-watched the film. I watched every play.
That was

Speaker 4 continue. You don't know what I'm going to say.

Speaker 4 You don't know what I'm going to say, Max.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 You're debating a ghost right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I was going to say that the Steelers' defensive line and their linebackers played exceptionally well. Yeah.
They're really, really, really good on defense. They limited Jaden to not scrambling at all.

Speaker 4 I think he had like maybe five yards rushing. We didn't really do any designed runs, and when we did try to do them, they didn't work, and he just got down immediately.
They did a great job.

Speaker 4 The Pittsburgh Steelers are a very, very, very good football team.

Speaker 4 And if you look at how the Commanders bounce back to their other great loss that they had, which was against the Ravens, I feel like we're in a good position. I trust Dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 What was the game after the Ravens?

Speaker 4 I believe that was the Panthers.

Speaker 4 And that's when Mariota went out there and lit him up. Now, there's some frauds.

Speaker 4 There's some fraud talk out there. Yeah, also.

Speaker 1 Can I say, I'm... Because the Bear season is completely over, I'm now getting personally offended for you.
Oh, fraud talk?

Speaker 4 I'm I'm not. I'm not offended by it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I am because I saw someone say the Commanders have not beat, they've lost all their games to winning teams, and they've only beaten losing teams. That's just not true.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They beat the Cardinals. Yes.
They beat the Bears when they were 4-2. Yep.

Speaker 1 And they, well, I mean, they were. They were.
And they also lost the Bucs who were a loser. I don't know what.

Speaker 1 I feel like those arguments always, you just, I guess the person was taking it their record at the time.

Speaker 4 Which you can't do. You can't do that.

Speaker 4 But if you do that you beat the bears who are four and two yeah so you can't go you can't switch back and forth you can't be like oh we beat the four and two bears but that counts as a under 500 team but we also beat the the two and four cardinals who are now six and two like yeah listen you have to be consistent when you do your fraud stats you either have to say right now what are the teams records yeah that you beat and the teams that you lost to if you go by right now guess what the cardinals are a good team yeah we crushed the cardinals but here's why i'm not upset at all about the the fraud talk.

Speaker 4 It's an honor to be called a fraud. As long as I've lived,

Speaker 4 I have yearned for somebody to think highly enough of my football team to the point where they can hate my football team. I don't know.

Speaker 1 So the fact that

Speaker 4 I don't give a fuck, you can call me. Guess what?

Speaker 1 If you lose to the Eagles by a lot,

Speaker 1 that's not a good thing to be like, you're a fraud. No, I'm talking about right now.

Speaker 4 As we stand right now, guess what? Bernie Madoff, he lived a long time as a fraud, and he had fucking islands that he vacationed.

Speaker 1 But he also probably had a great run. But he probably also stayed up every single night being like, someone's going to catch me.

Speaker 4 He had a great run being a fraud. And I think this is how big of a loser I am.
This goes against Hank's all his messaging to me of how to handle winning.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm going to go against it for a second because being called a fraud, we haven't been nearly good enough in decades for somebody to think that we're so highly rated that we could even possibly be frauds.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 4 Nobody thinks that a 4-14 team is a fraud. Or, excuse me, 4-13 team is a fraud.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't agree with this sentiment, but

Speaker 4 yeah, going back to what Max was alluding to, I think, was the dropped catches that Jaden had.

Speaker 1 Have you recounted the ballots?

Speaker 1 Did you watch the compilation that PFT put together?

Speaker 4 No. And you know what?

Speaker 1 It was all pass breakups.

Speaker 1 I think there were two drops and six pass breakups.

Speaker 1 That's not true at all.

Speaker 4 That's not true at all. And I forgot to put in the Luke McCaffrey drop that he had, which would have been another like 25 yards.

Speaker 4 But, I mean, I'm going to go back and repeat what I said on Monday, which is

Speaker 4 Jaden did not play his best game. It wasn't his best game.
He didn't look outstanding.

Speaker 1 I made you say that, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. But you're right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, good.

Speaker 4 I'm happy for the listeners that we got that.

Speaker 1 Go to PFT's account. Why are you on Jaden Daniels? I'm trying to do too many things.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He did not play his best game, but I think that he.

Speaker 1 Max did make you say that.

Speaker 4 He probably left about, I'd say, 65 to 70 yards on the field in drops and a touchdown that was dropped. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, let's see it.

Speaker 4 That's George Pickens.

Speaker 1 George Pickens, yeah. Here we go.
All right.

Speaker 1 That was a drop. I'm counting that as one drop.
We're on drop watch. Hank left.

Speaker 1 He's just like, I don't want to do this.

Speaker 1 That's a pass breakup.

Speaker 4 No, the defender didn't touch it.

Speaker 1 I think the defender broke his hands there, and he got in front of his face.

Speaker 4 Like he was covered. no watch it bounces off his shoulder pads boom his face mask i mean that's a drop off his face mask drop

Speaker 1 that's maybe a pass breakup watch the replay okay

Speaker 1 i mean he got his hands into his hands

Speaker 1 He would have Terry would have recaught that.

Speaker 4 That's a drop.

Speaker 1 That's a drop.

Speaker 4 That was a catch.

Speaker 1 no he dropped it you didn't see it bounced off the ground oh okay yeah that's how obvious it was that's a pass breakup throw that's a pass breakup and behind him yeah so there's two drops so far

Speaker 1 how long is this video bad throw that was a bad throw

Speaker 4 so that was two drops and then there was a luke mccaffrey one that he also dropped yeah

Speaker 4 because that was that last one was a missed throw i would say of the drops compilation that i put on um there were at least three drops i think it was between two and three and then Depending on how you're looking at it, there was another one that I didn't include that was

Speaker 4 also dropped.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 I didn't have the replay of it.

Speaker 1 You can't count the one that you didn't include. That's true.

Speaker 1 You put so many that weren't drops. How am I supposed to believe?

Speaker 5 This game is your entire season, PFT.

Speaker 1 I would agree. You think so? Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think I am rooting for the Commanders, and I will be personally heavily invested in them.

Speaker 5 But I think if they lose this game, it's their third playoff game that they've lost, and it's the season's over. You can't lose that movie, you guys will be officially be frauds.

Speaker 5 No, the teams you've beat are trash. Like, you guys were celebrating, and it was because it was an exciting game and a good

Speaker 5 finish, and so it's like you know, you lived off of that Hail Mary, but it was against the Bears.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And we almost beat them.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 We've got some great losses, though.

Speaker 1 It's really good losses. I don't think your season's over.
I think you'll still go to the playoffs, but this is why I push back on the fraud thing.

Speaker 1 I don't, being, if you lose to the Eagles by a lot, being a fraud, like, that sucks because everything you thought you thought is not real.

Speaker 4 Well, no, I disagree because in this season,

Speaker 4 this is all gravy. This is all extra.
So I didn't think that the Commanders had a good enough team roster-wise to compete and even be this good and win this many games.

Speaker 4 I was expecting, you know, eight wins tops.

Speaker 1 But what if Jaden plays like he did last week again against the Eagles? Does that not make you nervous about

Speaker 1 how many drops? I want to see. The Eagles also have a very good defense.

Speaker 4 I want to see Jaden continue to play well.

Speaker 4 That's obvious. But this is

Speaker 4 an unexpectedly good season so far that

Speaker 4 to have this many wins, I think, is great. I'm not going to be upset about outperforming expectations because it tells me, number one, we've got a quarterback that we can build around.

Speaker 4 Number two, our coaching staff did a hell of a job to get this much production out of guys that were either brought in off the scrap heap or guys that are holdovers from the previous regime that are just not, they haven't shown to be that good.

Speaker 4 And to get them to all buy in and outperform expectations, I think that's a great thing.

Speaker 4 So it's not like it's hard for me to be disappointed about being a fraud if I never thought that we would even get to this place.

Speaker 1 What I'm basically trying to say is it's on the table now, and it's the true sicko and perverts are rooting for this, and they're who knows what's going to happen. But if we were running a race,

Speaker 1 the race started, and Jaden Daniels' car went so fast down.

Speaker 1 Like he just was going so fast, looking great, Lambo.

Speaker 1 My race started, my car didn't start, and then it went like 60 miles an hour, and then it literally blew up.

Speaker 1 There's another car that has shown up to the race

Speaker 1 that is showing that it could be faster than all the other cars, and that would be the worst outcome. Drake May.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what everyone who's listening to this podcast is rooting for. And it's like,

Speaker 1 look at his face. Look at his face.
He's already gotten one out.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Drake is that car?

Speaker 5 I'm starting to believe.

Speaker 1 It's so sick. It's so sick.

Speaker 4 This analogy, that car didn't have a driver because the driver was like, I don't really care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it didn't start off the gate.

Speaker 4 And then it started rolling for a little bit. And then the driver had to be convinced by his other two podcast co-hosts to get into the the car and start driving reluctantly.

Speaker 4 And then he wins the race.

Speaker 5 Because the driver just wants to win races, but that's the thing. Like, winning races against shitty cars doesn't matter.
You want to beat the good cars.

Speaker 5 And when you've experienced winning those big races, then you know, beating lower-tier cars just doesn't really mean as much. So that is why they're not as much there.

Speaker 1 I don't think, I think Jaden Daniels is very, very good. Would you say he looks great, but there's also just the fucked-up nature of this ecosystem that that's that's the only part.

Speaker 1 It's like I'm not down on Jaden Daniels for any of his play. I'm down on Jaden Daniels because of how this podcast operates.

Speaker 4 Yeah, would you say that

Speaker 1 does that make sense?

Speaker 4 In this analogy, Big Cat, would it be fair to equate this to like getting a car that you love and you're super pumped up about and you show off to everybody and then you drive it around and then you keep bragging about it and then it stalls in the middle of the freeway during rush hour?

Speaker 1 Yeah, kind of like that.

Speaker 1 And then the Audi just shows up and it always runs well.

Speaker 4 I'm not down on Jaden at all. No, I'm not either.

Speaker 1 But you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I think he had maybe

Speaker 4 one of his worst games of the season, which was still a good game. He was okay.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 1 No, I actually agree with that. I think it's fair to say.
Yeah, I'm not down on him. The only part that I'm down on with Jaden Daniels is that this is such a fucked up world that we live in.

Speaker 1 That car might

Speaker 1 sitting on the couch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the scars.

Speaker 4 Just like smirking a little bit, being like, whoops, whoops me jaden daniels didn't make a bunch of mistakes last game no i just didn't think he had a like a good game yeah if he if he had played like he did against the bengals then we probably would have won that game right there were a couple throws that he missed there was one on that final drive which would have probably gotten us into field goal range at the very least that he missed the one to brown yeah he had a miss to uh mccaffrey when we were backed up in our own end zone that he missed so yeah there were some mistakes out there but i still i'm still buying all the jaden daniels stuff as you should i think that he's i think that he is going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 1 And let me double down on accountability. Eagles really haven't beat anyone either.
Depending on who you think about the benefit. Obviously, the Packers win at the beginning of the year.
Big win.

Speaker 1 And depending on what you think of the Bengals, those are the only two

Speaker 1 good wins. That's accountability.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to stick with what I said, that I think that the Eagles have the better team. I think they've got the better roster.

Speaker 4 But if our quarterback plays to the top of his ability, I think that we can win this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. My car is blown up.
Blew up. Everywhere.
Also, massive.

Speaker 1 My car is one of those buses in India with 100 people on the roof, and it flipped.

Speaker 4 Credit to the Steelers, too, because Russell Wilson played very, very well.

Speaker 5 That's swag.

Speaker 4 I think that the Steelers are a legitimate threat.

Speaker 1 Also, Mike Tomlin, you're not a degenerate. There was lip reading afterwards where you said, do not snap it.
Do not snap it. Okay.

Speaker 1 So he was not going to go for that. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 4 that's a dumbass play, a dumbass penalty we committed at the end. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, college football. We are three weeks away from,

Speaker 1 you know, or two weeks away from Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Championship Saturday coming up very shortly. Of course, as we all expected, on November 12th, the undefeated teams are Oregon, BYU, Army, and Indiana.

Speaker 1 Huh? Hmm? Huh? Indiana looked good. Yeah, well, they played.

Speaker 1 Michigan kind of almost won that game, but yes,

Speaker 1 they're 10-0. It was the first time that Indiana didn't just beat the brakes off someone.

Speaker 4 I think there was

Speaker 4 a not-so-quiet conglomerate of people that were saying that this was the week, though, that Indiana gets introduced to real Big Ten football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's been happening for the last three or four weeks, and they just keep on winning. And Kurt Signetti is coach of the year for sure.

Speaker 1 Indiana, I think it's the first time, I think it's the first 10-win season for Indiana ever in football.

Speaker 4 I think being 9-0, I think that was a record, too, for them.

Speaker 1 As you see, his daughter got engaged to after the game with a video board.

Speaker 1 His future son-in-law said, being with you is like being 10-0 every day.

Speaker 4 I'm undefeated in life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know what his plan was if they lost to Michigan.
It'd be like being with you is like being 9-1 in a really good season. Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 you're a nine and I'm a one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they have their big game against Ohio State coming up, which will be another noon game. That's the big controversy.
Big noon kickoff.

Speaker 1 Ohio State's finishing the season with all six straight noon kickoffs.

Speaker 4 Can we talk about Big Noon Saturday real quick?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but before we talk about it, I just want to say

Speaker 1 this makes no sense, and he seems like a really nice guy. It weirdly bothers me that Joel Clatt's name isn't Joe Clatt.

Speaker 1 Joe Clatt? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't like that his name's Joel. I don't know.
Joel Clatt? Yeah, I just,

Speaker 1 it's just an extra L that I just don't really want to say.

Speaker 4 Schrödinger's Clatt?

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you guys, is that a crazy take? Kind of. Yeah, I've never had a problem with it.
I've always had a problem with it. I don't know why.
Joel. Joel Clatt.
Like, he's just a Joe Clatt. Joe Clatt.

Speaker 1 I don't, I, it just makes, he's making me do more work. Joe Latt.
Yeah. But he went on a big tangent being like, it's actually good.
And it was essentially just saying it makes more money for Fox.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So that's the thing about Big Noon Saturday is it is entirely, it's a marketing gimmick that was designed by Fox to try to create a window of college football that people are excited to see where there was not a window before.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 4 Where, as in the past, you had the 330 on the East Coast kickoffs, then you had the night games

Speaker 4 and those were like the two big windows and Fox has rights to TV games. So they said, why don't we just build

Speaker 4 an entirely new brand of appointment television around an early game. That's fine.

Speaker 4 It's nice to have more like a full day of big college football games. It's nice to have one game that you can circle in each window for your house that has one TV.

Speaker 4 This is what I'm going to be doing early in the day. This is what I'm going to be doing as I take take a nap in the afternoon.

Speaker 4 This is what I'm going to be doing when I eat dinner and watch a big college football game at night. That's kind of nice.

Speaker 4 But to make all your most important matchups happen that early, it feels like there's a lot of people that don't like watching those. Number one, the fans that are going to the games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Penn State, Ohio State should have been a night game.

Speaker 4 You don't have enough time to tailgate beforehand. You don't have enough time to get drunk enough to get a true home field advantage if you're at that game.
And yeah,

Speaker 4 it feels more important when it's at night.

Speaker 1 And it is, I have been a critic of Gus Johnson just because he has had at times been,

Speaker 1 I've liked Gus Johnson, but there's been times where it's like a five-yard out in West Lafayette at like 11.05, and he says it's like winning the Super Bowl, and it was a little too much.

Speaker 1 But the reverse has happened, and we've now killed Gus Johnson. I don't know if you could play that clip, but

Speaker 1 he was dead on Saturday. Like, the big noon kickoff has killed Gus Johnson.
He has no life left to him. Can you play the audio of the scoop and score?

Speaker 1 I don't know if you can. Yeah, play it.

Speaker 4 Sometimes it's just too early in the day to get screamed at by the announcer.

Speaker 1 But this was a scoop and score. It was literally

Speaker 1 Ohio State scored a touchdown. I know that the game was over and they were killing

Speaker 1 Purdue, but

Speaker 1 it was insane. Oh, this is the other one.
He had two. This is another touchdown.
This is the first quarter.

Speaker 1 Ardlon.

Speaker 1 Howard sets up backside. Looks.
Dumps it down. Has a wide open receiver.
G. Scott.
Touchdown. Fucker.

Speaker 1 He's trying to. Find the scoop and score.
He's trying not to find it. The scoop and score was even worse.

Speaker 1 It was so bad

Speaker 1 because he just, yeah, he's got no life left to him. All right, here's the scoop and score.
First down to the 25 for Purdue. And a fumble on the play.
Ohio State is there.

Speaker 1 They pick it up and run it in for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 People aren't watching this.

Speaker 1 They're obviously only listening. We're not going to be able to put the video in.
That was a, I know the Ohio State was up 31-0. That was a fumble recovery for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 It sounds like either a man that has the under in that game or a guy that's doing a crossword puzzle as he's doing the play-by-play for it.

Speaker 1 But big noon kickoff has killed Gus Johnson, but we have it. We actually have the big game.
Travis Hunter is playing big noon kickoff, I believe, this week in Colorado against Utah.

Speaker 1 Boys, it's getting very serious because Miami losing, Cam Ward,

Speaker 1 I don't want to say eliminated from the Heisman, but that's a big blow.

Speaker 4 Well, Cam Ward, his case for being the Heisman winner was that he was able to bounce back from any sort of deficit and just will his team to a victory.

Speaker 4 And then when you don't do that, when the luck runs out, then kind of all the win gets taken out of those sales.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then we have

Speaker 1 Dylan Gabriel, who's still lurking, and Ash and Genty is still lurking. Colorado has to win out.

Speaker 1 They have to win out and get to the Big 12 championship because I think that if you have a championship Saturday and Dylan Gabriel and Ashton Genty and Cam Ward are all playing and Travis Hunter isn't, I think we might be fucked.

Speaker 4 That might be a problem. I'm actually going to stand up for Joe Clatt right now.
Joe Clatt. So I'm going to be on Joe Clatt's side because he brought up a very interesting point about Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 When we talk about his snap count,

Speaker 4 and I forget how many snaps he played this weekend.

Speaker 1 I know he scored a touchdown in his 100th snap.

Speaker 1 And that was around the third quarter or so.

Speaker 4 So Joe Clatt pointed out that Travis Travis Hunter actually played 170 snaps. Mm-hmm.
When you factor in the penalty plays.

Speaker 1 Penalties, yeah.

Speaker 4 He actually played those plays. They happened.
Yeah. Whether you like it or not, that existed in the time-space continuum.

Speaker 4 But just because there was a flag on the play, they don't count in the official stat sheet at the end of the day. 170 snaps, insane.
The interception that he had was incredible.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Should have counted.
Should have counted. You just got to keep playing that interception over and over.

Speaker 4 That's his Heisman moment. That's his Heisman moment.
Maybe the first player to ever have a Heisman moment that didn't count.

Speaker 1 That didn't count, yeah. So that will be a big game.
Colorado, I'm very nervous about the Kansas game. Kansas is playing a lot better.

Speaker 1 They're starting to cause chaos in the Big 12.

Speaker 1 We also have, so the SEC, credit to old miss, incredible performance against Georgia. They Georgia, Georgia.

Speaker 1 Their defensive line was so good, and their defense as a whole was so good.

Speaker 1 You thought, like, the way that game started, it was sack, sack, fumble for uh, Jackson Dart, and he got hurt, and you're like, oh, here we go. And then the Georgia scores on like the third play.

Speaker 1 Here we go. This is going to be a blowout.
Their defense just kept him in that game, and Jackson Dart obviously gutted it out. Their backup two came in and had a really nice drive.

Speaker 1 Ole Miss is for real, for real. And we now have an SEC where there's three teams that are one-loss teams, and then there's another,

Speaker 1 what, five teams that have two losses. And the craziest thing about the SEC, this is how deep the SEC is.
South Carolina, who has three losses in the conference, I would take them over

Speaker 1 probably three or four of the teams

Speaker 1 that only have two losses.

Speaker 4 Definitely AM.

Speaker 1 I would take them over AM. I'd take them over Mizzou.
I'd take them over LSU because they should have won that game. They got screwed.
And remember, they kept, they almost beat Alabama.

Speaker 1 Like, they were in that game. They didn't beat them, but they were in that game.
So that's how deep the SEC is. And we are headed for a collision course where

Speaker 1 if Tennessee loses to Georgia,

Speaker 1 we're going to have a whole mess everywhere.

Speaker 4 Yeah, doomsday.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's basically Tennessee losing to Georgia and Texas getting upset by Arkansas and it will be headed careening towards doomsday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's going to be some wild shit that plays out in the SEC.

Speaker 4 I don't know that, obviously, Ole Miss's defense played very well, but this is kind of a running theme with Georgia where their offense is not as good as it has been.

Speaker 1 Carson Beck is not good.

Speaker 4 They don't have the run game going. The offensive line doesn't look great.
Carson Beck looks weird and also is not that great this year. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Omis, yeah, it's a big win for him.

Speaker 1 Huge. This is the one that Lane couldn't get, and he got it.

Speaker 4 The university has never had wins like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they now, I think they won one time against the top three opponent or something like that in this, like it's, it's been a very long time.

Speaker 1 Oh, actually, no, it was, I know what it was. It was

Speaker 1 our guy, Chad Kelly, versus Alabama in 2014 or 15 or somewhere.

Speaker 4 Also, best wishes to swag Kelly had a brutal injury in the Gray Cup semifinals. He was holding his own leg together with his hands.

Speaker 1 Really bad. That was really, really bad.

Speaker 4 It was tough to see. Really, really bad.

Speaker 1 So the other SEC big matchup, LSU's out. Brian Kelly,

Speaker 1 he's just such a loser. He's such a loser.
Did you see the clip of him complaining to the refs about Alabama blitzing eight with like 15 seconds left?

Speaker 1 LSU had their whole starters in. They were trying to score a touchdown.
And

Speaker 1 I can't believe you blitzed. I can't believe you complained to the refs about that.
He's just a loser, loser, loser.

Speaker 1 And it's just so perfect that Notre Dame is going to go to the playoff and LSU is not. And like, I wish they would just get rid of Brian Kelly because I want to root for LSU again.

Speaker 1 I can't stand the guy. And Jalen Milro is the most electric.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was just so, so every single time he gets into open space and he does that running sideways thing, I don't know how the angles work. You're just dead to rights

Speaker 1 if he's got full steam.

Speaker 4 Who could have ever seen this coming, that a team was going to try to beat LSU by having their quarterback run a lot on him?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Brian Kelly didn't see that coming.

Speaker 1 Brian Kelly did not see that coming.

Speaker 4 And the fake mic on the sidelines was

Speaker 4 also, I think that might be an indictment on Brian Kelly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because Brian Kelly,

Speaker 4 you have to be smarter than that and stand up for yourself a little bit when it comes to endangering students to to not look the other way when they're bringing a fucking live tiger onto the sideline.

Speaker 4 That's facts. Just for your own brand.
You have to be like,

Speaker 4 We're not going to do that again. It was a depressing fake Mike.
He was all doped up on Kway Luds, passed out in a

Speaker 4 glass, like, I don't know if that was a cage.

Speaker 1 Omar Bradley.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was Omar Bradley. It was not Mike.
The tiger's name was Omar Bradley, and it came from a tiger dealer who has had Omar Bradley escape twice from his cage. And Brian Kelly was like, fuck it.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, that sounds safe enough. We'll put him on the sideline.
Bad, bad omen.

Speaker 4 You think Coach O would ever allow a fake Mike to be brought into the stadium? Mike the Tiger lives, I think, like 200 feet from the stadium. Correct.

Speaker 4 And you're going out of state to outsource a dangerous tiger with a history of prison breaks, and you're bringing it onto the sideline.

Speaker 1 It was insane. LSU's change.
They're down bad. I have two other shout-outs I want to give.
I want to give Drive of the Week to Army. They had a drive against North Texas.

Speaker 1 21 plays, 94 yards, 13 minutes and 54 seconds off the clock.

Speaker 1 That's almost, I don't know how you could get more.

Speaker 4 That's a classic Army drive.

Speaker 1 That's an insane drive.

Speaker 4 On most of those plays, they pretty much had three fullbacks on the field. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Insane, insane drive. And then the crazy chaos game of the night that most people probably weren't watching because it's too.
Mizzou's still technically in it. Drink Witz said that after.

Speaker 1 He's like, we're still in the playoff picture because they only have two losses. Mizzou versus Oklahoma had

Speaker 1 back. It was Oklahoma was down seven.
They scored with like a minute and a half left. Mizzou gets the ball, fumbles the ball.
Oklahoma picks it up, touchdown.

Speaker 1 So now they're up seven with a minute left. Mizzou then scores.
Oklahoma gets the ball with 30 seconds left. They fumble, and Mizzou gets a touchdown off the fumble.

Speaker 1 So he had two scooping scores in the last two minutes to basically swing the game. Both teams were down seven, and then Mizzou ended up winning by seven.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I thought the crazy game of the night, though, was BYU, Utah.

Speaker 1 That was, yes, that was crazy.

Speaker 4 Because Utah, they won the game. Utah was just punishing them.
Yeah. And BYU in the fourth quarter comes back.
There's a lot of talk about the, was it defensive holder?

Speaker 1 It was holding on the outside, yeah.

Speaker 4 And the camera angle that we have is bad. You can't see anything.

Speaker 1 It's also holding.

Speaker 4 It also gives, but if you're not a fan of BYU, it gives you an opportunity to be like, this is bullshit. That clearly wasn't a hold because the camera angle is on the moon.

Speaker 4 But then you find out later that obviously there are fans in the stands that are taping it themselves that have a better angle. I think it probably was a hold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so, too.

Speaker 4 I think there was a lot of contact there, but

Speaker 4 there was enough, it was close enough where there was a ton of controversy at the end of it. And Utah felt like they had that in the bag, and that was just a crazy ending to it.

Speaker 1 I really enjoyed Terry McCauley, rules official, maybe the most dunked on guy ever after this happened because he

Speaker 1 said, I'm going to see if I can find it.

Speaker 1 Someone basically, he basically was like, it's a hold. It's always a hold.
That's the correct call.

Speaker 1 You know, yeah, like the end of story. And someone, he said, I've looked at every pass play in the entire game, every complete route on the all-22.

Speaker 1 Nothing even remotely close to defensive holding occurred against either team because Utah fans are like, you can't call that now. You know, like, it hasn't been called all night.

Speaker 1 And then a guy said, first of all, thanks for the retweet. Second, I find it hard to believe that you found the all-22 footage.
Those are under tight lock and key in any program.

Speaker 1 Third, you clearly didn't examine the game, definitely not in an hour. DBs and wide receivers are physical all night, quit lying.

Speaker 1 And Terry Macaulay just said, I have access to every camera angle of every game in college football within minutes of each play.

Speaker 1 That's such a and he also was like, It do you realize that a football game takes there's like 13 minutes of action and the all 22 has run pass split up?

Speaker 1 He's like, It takes me 20 minutes to to watch every pass.

Speaker 4 So he doesn't watch the commercials? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 No, he has the All-22. Yeah, all 22.
Because he does, he still is the, I think he's replay

Speaker 1 guy for NBC. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 just people have been like, there's no way you could have watched that. He's like, I literally watched it all.

Speaker 4 I need my replay officials and my rules experts to be Italian. Call me old school.
Yeah. But I like a good Dean Blandino.
I like a Gene Sterator. Yeah.
I like those kind of guys.

Speaker 4 Terry McCauley seems a little too Irish to me, get it right.

Speaker 1 But he Mike Pereira, you got to have an Italian.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Memes is also talking back here about a timeout that they called.

Speaker 1 No, what was that?

Speaker 1 Utah's stadium was too loud. Oh.

Speaker 1 So BYU snaps it in the end zone.

Speaker 1 They have a clear sack on them. Would have been a safety game over.

Speaker 1 Refs blow it dead. There was an inadvertent timeout that Utah was too loud, and the refs got together and called a timeout.
Oh, that's bullshit. That is bullshit.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I also had

Speaker 1 Utah Moneyline, and I went to sleep thinking it was over. Okay, so that is

Speaker 1 bullshit. All right, justice for Utah.
BYU's going to lose

Speaker 1 a game. I'll say it right now.
I'm going to predict it. Not a crazy prediction.
They might lose two games down the stretch. I'm going to pull up their schedule real quick.

Speaker 4 Isn't Utah, that's the school that has the nuclear reactor on campus where a couple years ago, after a bad loss, a student said that they were going to go blow it up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They were going to detonate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 BYU has Kansas, who's playing really good ball right now, Arizona State, who's also playing really good ball, and Houston, who might be the turnaround team of the year.

Speaker 1 And the fact that they were like the worst team possible in September, and now they are very, very frisky. They're going to lose at least one game.

Speaker 1 So it's been a great story, but BYU's been doing this, living, you know, very, very dangerously for a while, Matt.

Speaker 1 Okay, anything else? I mean, the rankings, they're going to come out with the rankings. We're taping this in the afternoon, but there's nothing that can surprise me.

Speaker 1 I do think they should put more credit on SMU. That's my big thing.

Speaker 1 And I don't know. I mean, we'll see what the SEC still has to work itself out because you have Tennessee, Georgia coming up.
You have Texas A ⁇ M, Texas coming up. There's big games.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee was able to beat Georgia. Yeah.
Because Tennessee's, they're not a great team.

Speaker 1 I just don't know about that.

Speaker 4 Georgia's not a great team either. No, Georgia's offense is not that good.
Tennessee's defense is is pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Dennis' defense is good. I just don't, I worry about Nico in a road environment.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do hot seat cool thrown. And then we got our interview with Julius Randall coming up.

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Speaker 1 Henry, my hot seat is hopefully Jake Paul. Oh, okay.

Speaker 5 He's fighting Mike Tyson this weekend, I think on Friday. I don't really care about it.
I'm not going to watch it, but

Speaker 5 they have a Netflix show. I haven't watched that either, but I saw the clip where it was like a vintage Mike Tyson clip where it's him watching TV and Jake Paul is doing a press conference.

Speaker 5 And he's like, sorry, Mike, I'm going to beat your ass, whatever. And it's Mike Tyson.
He's like, he's a, he's a natural or

Speaker 5 he's a man-made killer. I forget exactly.
Natural-born killer? No, he's like, he's a man-made killer. Like, he's a media decided he was a killer.
He's like, I'm a natural-born killer. Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 That's the difference.

Speaker 5 Like, it literally gives me goosebumps every time I watch it. It's vintage Mike Tyson, and I feel like these fights are always disappointing.

Speaker 5 And this one, I still feel like it will be, but that quote got me fired up, and I am hoping I go on social media and see him, like, knock him the fuck out.

Speaker 1 Our good friend Tom Fernelli pointed out something to me via text last night, and it didn't dawn on me until he said that.

Speaker 1 This very well could just be Billy vs. Kinseko.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so to me, the whole build-up to this feels

Speaker 4 like this is boomer porn, where you see. Watch this click.
Can we pull up the colour? Because think about it this way.

Speaker 4 You've got Mike Tyson, who's a legend, and a lot of older people grew up watching and be like, this man can kill anybody, which at the time is 100% true.

Speaker 4 And then they naturally grow to hate the Paul brothers because they're like emblematic of everything that millennials and Gen Zers are doing.

Speaker 4 And so you're like, my guy guy that I've loved is going to knock the fuck out of this young little pissant.

Speaker 4 And you have all this hope leading up to it to watch the younger generation get their like comeuppance.

Speaker 4 And at the end of the day, the older generation is also still very old and probably out of shape and probably not able to punch nearly as hard as it could.

Speaker 4 And it's just going to be very, very disappointing to anybody over the age of like 40.

Speaker 5 It will be super disappointing. This clip is probably propaganda, but it will sell a lot of fights.

Speaker 1 But it is, it's Billy versus Kinseiko, where it's like the older guy, everyone's like, holy shit, he's gonna demolish him. This is gonna be like a bloodbath.

Speaker 1 How is this young guy even taking this fight? And the older guy will most likely get hurt like 30 seconds in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Billy did win, though. It's true.

Speaker 4 Go ahead.

Speaker 10 Final thing. I presume that Mike Tyson is watching this right now.
Is there anything you want to say to him?

Speaker 10 Mike, I love you, but this is my sport now. It's an honor to get in the ring with you.
I'm so, so honored. You're a legend, but I'm going to take your throne, brother.

Speaker 11 There's a fundamental difference between me and Jake.

Speaker 1 He's a manufactured killer.

Speaker 11 Television and capers made him a killer. He's manufactured.
I'm a natural-born killer.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 the difference.

Speaker 1 That's a great clip. The only problem I have is...
It's Jake Paul saying, I'm going to take your throne, Mike. Mike hasn't had the throne for 20 years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, what's that? More than 20 years, like been 30 years. What's the headgear?

Speaker 5 I don't know. Again, like, I'm not even going to watch this fight.
I just, and I don't think, I think it's going to be Billy versus Kinseio.

Speaker 5 Like, if he's like, that clip, it will be like, it'll, that'll be on a rap song. That will be a great rap song.
Like, that is a great quote of just, like, it does give you goosebumps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he should have called out Tyson Fury.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, he's not. He's a natural-born killer.
He was a natural-born killer. Like, he's a natural-born killer.

Speaker 1 He's just old. He did.
Mike Tyson did say something like, Iron Mike has come back, and I can't control him when he comes back, which that's also scary for other reasons.

Speaker 1 Okay, good hot seat.

Speaker 5 And then my cool throne,

Speaker 5 Nebraska Cornhuskers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Dana. Yeah.
Dana Holgerson will serve as the Nebraska offensive coordinator versus USC, and I think for the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is bullshit because Wisconsin plays him next week. Oh, no.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's going to fix their offense. No doubt.
No doubt about it. I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Our guy, Dana, Dana, your best friend. My best friend.
I'm happy for him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You had another cool zone?

Speaker 5 Yeah. PMT documentary episode two drops Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 Okay, so today. Yeah.
Tonight. Tonight.
This is how we promo. We figure out

Speaker 1 the promo of Barcelona Vantog.

Speaker 5 Love it.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I don't love it.

Speaker 4 Actually, no, I do love it. Episode one was very, very good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this one's a good job. You know what? I love it because we would have.
This podcast wouldn't be creating towards year nine if we had kept that show.

Speaker 5 There's more juicy stuff too. There's more.
I think episode one was good, but it was all relatively known.

Speaker 4 There's more details with this one. Yeah, that was the best thing that's ever happened to us.
By far. It sucked in the moment.
It was a very bad feeling when it happened.

Speaker 4 But looking back on it, goddamn, I'm so happy I didn't have to work.

Speaker 1 I just remember getting, when it got canceled, I got so high that I got trapped in a Call of Duty commercial.

Speaker 1 It was like one of those when the new Call of Duty came out and they did like the three-minute commercials. And I was so high sitting on my couch trying to like numb away being canceled.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, the commercial got like two minutes in. I was like, did I change the channel? Where the fuck am I right now?

Speaker 4 I remember what happened right after it was canceled. You know how we dealt with her misery? You guys are spoiling on the dock.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. All right.
Tune into the dock.

Speaker 1 Tune into the dock. That was sorry.
Did I say the Call of Duty thing? Oh, shit. My bad.

Speaker 4 Did I say where we went right afterwards? Yeah. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 4 Tune into the dock. No spoilers.

Speaker 1 Good job. But if you're very on brand, PFT, your hot seat cool, Taran.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is cleanliness.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Did you see the story about Syracuse head coach? Yes. So Syracuse head coach Fran Brown says that after losses, he doesn't allow himself to shower because only winners get soap.
Or excuse me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, winners get washed, winners get soap. I like that.
Afterwards, he just doesn't feel that he's entitled to shower because he doesn't deserve it after losing.

Speaker 4 Basically, saying you get a piece of dry, like steel wool and you can spit on yourself, and that's the only way that you can wash.

Speaker 4 I like this. I like this sentiment.

Speaker 1 I kind of disagree, though. Shouldn't you wash off a loss and keep the mojo going for a win? You want to wash it off? Don't ever change.

Speaker 4 What about the stink of losing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want to wash it off.

Speaker 4 You want to get that off? That doesn't motivate you?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I want to keep the win and never change anything.

Speaker 4 But if you were dirty, wouldn't you be more motivated to win so that you can shower?

Speaker 1 No, you...

Speaker 1 Maybe. no, I guess, but I would, it's like a lucky pair of underwear.
I want to keep wearing it.

Speaker 4 You keep going until

Speaker 4 like being clean, smelling good is the mark of a loser. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 A winner is just, yeah, just rolling through it.

Speaker 4 Your musk should take it.

Speaker 1 He should try it both ways.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but he probably has.

Speaker 4 I remember there was a team, I think it was Derek Dooley, when he coached at Tennessee, and they were on a losing streak, and he blamed it on the lack of shower discipline on his players.

Speaker 4 So at practice, he had them gather around, and he had to show them how to wash their ass with a loofah. Here's where you put the soap.
Here's how you're the hot zones that you have to get.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 That's that's a mark of a loser head coach right there is when he's coaching showering to you guys. But I still appreciate it from a football guy mentality.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I like that part.

Speaker 1 You should test it both ways, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 But also, for, I don't know if he extends that to the team or if it's that's just for himself. If it's for himself, I love it.
He's like, I won't allow myself to shower.

Speaker 1 What happens if he loses before like a 10-day layoff over Christmas?

Speaker 4 Just you're going to have a smelly Christmas.

Speaker 1 That's bad, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And then then my cool throne is Stu Feiner.
Our good friend Stu Finer. Tonight, Wednesday in Chicago at the Laugh Factory, Stu is doing a stand-up routine about his life.
Oh, no.

Speaker 4 I'm lucky enough to host it. Nick's going to be there.
Mook's going to be there.

Speaker 4 12-hour.

Speaker 4 They're taping it for a special. So this is Stu Finer.

Speaker 1 He's doing a special?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Stu Feiner is doing a special tonight.
Yeah, so he's going to do a stand-up routine about his life. I think the rest of us, we might roast Stu with our time on stage.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that's going to be a five-hour show. Yeah.
It's never ending. We'll see.
It's going to be a double VHS.

Speaker 4 Tickets are on sale right now if you want to go to the Stu Finers.

Speaker 1 There's the intermission and everything like that. I don't know.
I don't know what has to be.

Speaker 4 Listen, nobody can control what Stu does. No,

Speaker 5 what you just described sounds like

Speaker 5 he's going to be in like sixth grade one hour in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's definitely a possibility.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I'm excited about it. I'm excited to be there.
That will be fun.

Speaker 1 All right. My hot seats is cheap wedding guests.
Did you guys see there was a viral post the other day?

Speaker 1 A woman said, we just got married yesterday. We spent $60,000 on our wedding with a guest count of 270.

Speaker 1 We worked our butts off and pushed so many bills, rent, et cetera, only taking out a loan of $4,000 for my mom. And we received $3,000 in cash and checks total from cards.
We're freaking out.

Speaker 1 We thought we'd get more, and the lowest card amount was $10.

Speaker 1 And this woman is basically like, We expected a lot more for all of our guests, and now we're fucked.

Speaker 4 I think that you need to just be friends with richer people.

Speaker 1 I also think that

Speaker 5 what would your math tell you?

Speaker 1 Well, the only thing that I'd ask is if they had a registry, if they had a registry with like pots and pans, they fucked themselves. They should have just been like, registry is

Speaker 1 fun. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 I would expect for 270 people.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to do the math. There are probably a lot of couples.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say I would expect at least 10 grand.

Speaker 1 At least. 100 bucks is what you, like 100 bucks is a typical,

Speaker 1 you know, depending on where you are in life. 100 bucks, I feel like, is the minimum you give it a wedding.

Speaker 1 Is that not right?

Speaker 4 I don't know because the registry plays such an important part in it. With a registry, even if...

Speaker 5 That's 27 grand.

Speaker 4 If the average gift on the registry is between 50 and 150 bucks, you get people that spend 100 bucks on a gift and then they don't necessarily put up nearly as much as they would have.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 The registry is all if there was a registry, then they fucked themselves.

Speaker 4 If you're counting on this wedding to fund your honeymoon, then you just make a honeymoon fund instead of doing a registry at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm saying minimums too. Like, I've, I, even when I didn't have money, it would be like 300, 500.
Like, if it's a close friend, that's what you do. Minimum is 100.

Speaker 1 You got to pay for your meal and the drinks. That's kind of what you do.
It $10 is the big. I would fucking send that back to the person.

Speaker 4 Also, 270 people is too big for a wedding.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, but they probably were like, we're going to cash in. Yeah.
Like, that minimum, they should have had 10 grand. I actually think that's crazy.

Speaker 4 You got to get richer friends.

Speaker 1 That's, or these people are just shitty people. $10?

Speaker 1 What do you give, Max? $100 a person?

Speaker 1 No, I give more than that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 1 Baller. $100 a person is is like very low.
That's what I'm saying. That's minimum.
You're getting a full meal, a band, a full bar. Maybe it was cash bar.

Speaker 1 Cash bar, you'd give nothing. That's a good point.
Yeah. Cash bar, you get nothing.

Speaker 4 Destination wedding?

Speaker 4 Maybe. Could have been a destination.

Speaker 1 I do like to go. When I go to weddings, I like to bring

Speaker 1 a bunch of cash and not have signed the card yet. And I'll, I'll, I'll, my gift will be based on the time I had.

Speaker 4 You put the stack of cash on the table and you start removing it. It can fluctuate based on the playlist, bad DJs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how was the dinner? Was there multiple,

Speaker 1 what were the hors d'oeuvres like? It's basically based off the hors d'oeuvres. A lot of times these registries have

Speaker 1 the thing that you can just give money directly to there. It's like a vendor.
So there's no even excuse because you can just be like, oh, shit, I forgot to get cash.

Speaker 5 Oh, whatever.

Speaker 1 I'll just go onto the website, donate there, and then just write on the card. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gift is on the website. This is insane.
And then my cool throne is

Speaker 1 the NBA Cup because it's back, and we have an awesome promo going with DraftKings. We're going to start doing our NBA Cup picks.
So people will be listening to this.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the games happen, but going forward, we're going to release it on all the socials on Tuesdays. So next week, look out for our picks on Tuesdays.

Speaker 1 You'll actually, if you're listening to this right now, you can go and look at our picks that we've already made on our socials and we'll look like idiots.

Speaker 1 But DraftKings has a great promo on the the NBA Cup, so check it out. And we're going to be getting in on the NBA Cup this year.

Speaker 4 We're battling for the NBA Cup Cup. We have the NBA Cup Cup here in the studio.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we do. It's sitting right over there.
So we're going to have some fun with that and hopefully, no, we'll be bad.

Speaker 1 I'll be taking the Sixers plus three against the Knicks tonight, which is the biggest loser on the board.

Speaker 4 I was going to take the Sixers money line.

Speaker 4 But that's fine. You can take them against the spread.

Speaker 1 Love the NBA Cup.

Speaker 1 I'll I'll take the points for sure.

Speaker 1 Love the NBA Cup. Oh, I'm going to take...
Oh, I know it.

Speaker 1 This will be very stupid when you're listening to this.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to take every single Clay Thompson over. First time back in Golden State.
Yep. He's going to go nuts.
Nuts.

Speaker 1 Okay. Speaking of NBA, let's get to our interview with Julius Randall.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest in studio, three-time NBA All-Star, two-time first team?

Speaker 1 I wish.

Speaker 4 How many times first team?

Speaker 1 All right, three-time All-Star.

Speaker 1 He's been in one of the all-NBA teams at least twice. Twice.
Yeah, it doesn't matter which one. It is Julius Randall from the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Does that sound weird saying it?

Speaker 1 Because it's still new, right? It's still very new. Yeah.
So how, let's start with that.

Speaker 1 How's the first month and a half that you've been on the Timberwolves and like feeling everything out? And

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, it's got to be weird. Yeah, it's

Speaker 1 definitely new, you know, especially when you've been somewhere for five years.

Speaker 1 I was like, at a mall with my wife, and the lady comes up to me and she's like,

Speaker 1 you must play basketball. Who Who you play for? And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm Timberwolves. Yeah.
You know what I mean? So it was like one of those situations, but it's been great, man. I'm loving it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I mean, you got traded like late, like right before the season.
Is that especially weird, not having a like training camp and everything with your new team?

Speaker 1 And you're just like, all right, now I'm on this team. Yeah, man, because it's

Speaker 1 like. At that point, you think like if anything happens, it'll be during the year, you know, right before the trade deadline.
So, you know, know, for it to happen like

Speaker 1 two days before whatever training camp was was kind of crazy because, you know, it was

Speaker 1 more the basketball part is easy, but like adjusting and moving to family, like my son had just started school. He was in school for a little bit.

Speaker 1 So like that was probably like the hardest part, just getting adjusted. But, you know, it's cool.
Now we good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 How long did it take you to get used to the business of the NBA? And understand that sometimes things happen to you, not because it's like them.

Speaker 4 Maybe you still feel like upset if you get traded. You're like, man, I don't feel like they really appreciate me if they're willing to trade me away.

Speaker 4 But I feel like a lot of players that have been in your position, at some point, you kind of figure out that it's not personal.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got used to it. I mean, pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 I think maybe my first wake-up call was

Speaker 1 with the Lakers. Yeah.
And, you know, LeBron was coming to town. They was like, well, LeBron's coming.
So, you know, you got to, you got to,

Speaker 1 you know, figure it out, you know, and that's how I ended up in New Orleans for a year.

Speaker 1 But, um, I mean, that was probably like my first time, and then from then on, it's just been like, you know, the business is it is what it is, and you kind of got to, you know, roll with it and adjust.

Speaker 4 I think you were also unlucky your first time because they had to like renounce you, they had to use the word renounce. Nobody likes to be renounced, yeah, that's a fucked-up way to put it, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, to be fun, to be honest, though, like, I asked for that, yeah, yeah, yeah, because uh, please renounce me, yeah, because I was

Speaker 1 a situation where I was young in my career. And, you know, I,

Speaker 1 you know, was coming off a pretty decent year with the Lakers, and I just kind of wanted to continue to grow.

Speaker 1 So, you know, the Bus family, I had a great relationship with them, and, you know, they helped me get to, you know, a good situation with that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think in Minnesota, it's also a compliment. Like, they wanted you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, especially, you know,

Speaker 1 in these situations, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm pretty secure in who I am as a player, you know, at this point in my career. And, um,

Speaker 1 you know, the shock, obviously, it was a shock at first, um,

Speaker 1 just with everything, but from like day one, like the moment that I got traded, I already knew Finchie because I had played for him in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 So, from a basketball standpoint, like when it happened, I'm like, well,

Speaker 1 I really want to play for Finchie. Like, I'm excited about that.
You know what I mean? But, like, the organization, like Tim, Matt, and Dell,

Speaker 1 like, A-Rod, like all those guys like called me and were just telling me how excited they were for me to be there, you know, how much they wanted me,

Speaker 1 you know, how long they were working on a trade, all those different type of things. And, you know, after I got over the initial shock, it was like, all right, man, I'm somewhere where I'm wanted.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, appreciating the value.
So, like,

Speaker 1 you know, it just took a little bit to like change my perspective and look at it differently.

Speaker 1 But once I was able to do that, like, I was felt extremely comfortable just being there was it was there part of you like oh I get out of tibbs practices now

Speaker 1 I mean there has to have been and I'm I'm a tibbs guy but everyone says the practices are brutal yeah you know what's funny man uh

Speaker 1 I'm like we have these conversations like all the time like in the locker room and I'm like I'm like aunt man what kind of practice is gonna be today

Speaker 1 And he like, man, we just might watch film and da, da, da, da.

Speaker 1 I'm like, word? Okay, bet.

Speaker 1 I get excited you know what i mean i get a little pepper bust up so you know what i mean it's uh

Speaker 1 it's you like you've been you're somewhere for such a long time and like i appreciate tibbs like yeah it's like tibbs is like a coach that's gonna have you every game super prepared like you're not gonna miss a beat on anything that's gonna go on but also you know here like it's different like

Speaker 1 Finch has us prepared, but we're also like empowered

Speaker 1 as players to, you know, be adults,

Speaker 1 to be professional and, you know, come in every day, do our job. And he trusts us with that responsibility.
So it's very empowering as a player.

Speaker 1 And it feels like everyone who has played for Tibbs, they'll be like, yeah, the practices are brutal. He grinds you hard, but he also brings the most out of you.
Because you had your best year,

Speaker 1 whatever, it was probably his second year, I think, in New York.

Speaker 1 We've had Jokeem Noah on here. He's like, yeah, Tibbs was a real motherfucker, but if I didn't have him, I wouldn't have gotten the best out of my ability.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, like, at that point in my career, like, Tibbs was the perfect coach for me. You know, I mean, he got the most out of me.

Speaker 1 He pushed me.

Speaker 1 You know, he gave me ample opportunity, you know, to grow as a player. So, like, I appreciate him, you know, for what he was and,

Speaker 1 you know, what he meant to my career during that time.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Did you ever think about going back to school and like getting a master's degree from Villanova so that you could fit in?

Speaker 1 Hell no. You fit in with all the guys?

Speaker 1 Absolutely not. I think I chose the right wildcat.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So what did Dante say to Tibbs?

Speaker 1 You know, I'll just, I'll leave that to Tay. Okay, okay.
I'll let Tay. We'll have to have him behind his dad tell us what he said.
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 That was fun for a preseason game. It was a lot of, it was a lot of energy.
It was a lot of energy. It was a lot going on that night.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so you're,

Speaker 1 you know, your time in Kentucky, Cal, like, that was when Kentucky was rolling. You guys go to the championship game.
I'm uh, I went to Wisconsin, so I was actually sitting like

Speaker 1 I was sitting like maybe 20 feet from what was it, one of the Harrisons hit that three. Yep, that destroyed me.

Speaker 1 Uh, was there ever a moment during that game you're like, we can't lose to these white guys?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I feel like that happened. You know, what's crazy is like, that was like, once we got through Wisconsin, I was like, oh, we got it.
Yeah, you didn't. Like,

Speaker 1 exactly, because I'm like, man, like, Wisconsin was our hardest game of the tournament by far. Like, I'm like, bro, these dudes use 35 seconds of every single shot.

Speaker 1 Like, super disciplined. Like, they're not going to beat themselves.

Speaker 1 So it was like one of those games. And it was like one of those games, too.
Like, the whole time, it was like we never felt like we had any momentum. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Until obviously Aaron hit that shot.

Speaker 1 And then like, once we did that, we're like, man, like, we got this.

Speaker 1 Like, you connect, like, we're thinking, like, no disrespect to them but we're like man this is you know ours and uh like you said it wasn't yeah it wasn't so what i mean what kind of coach was cal because i feel like he gets a not a bad rap but he obviously like there's a lot of times especially his end of kentucky where it's like they weren't winning as much in the tournament and he was talking about his draft picks and everyone's making jokes but like he seems like a guy who every player loves yeah it's funny because it doesn't matter like who like i remember when i first got to kentucky um, and DeMarcus

Speaker 1 and like AD and those guys, they came back and they were like, man,

Speaker 1 this motherfucker's crazy. Like,

Speaker 1 you know, I should have been a number one pick, like, just messing with it. I should have been a number one pick.
Cal held me back. Cal held me back, man.
Like, da, da, da, da, da, right.

Speaker 1 And, like, we always give them a hard time. And it doesn't matter if it's him or, like, I'm talking to Rob, who was just there last year.
And we're like, man, we hated Cal when we were at Kentucky.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Coached us hard. Like,

Speaker 1 you know, he's a tough coach. Like, he's going to be on your ass.
Yeah. And he's like one of those type of dudes.
And then, like, everybody has the same story. Like, when you leave, you love Cal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Everybody loves Cal.
And, like, man, Cal

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 forget, like, the coaching, just, like, as a human being and, like, who he is to his core. Like, he's done things for me and my family.
after I've left Kentucky that like

Speaker 1 will be good with me forever. Yeah.
I'll do anything for Cal. Yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And like after I got traded, he was one of the first people that called me to check in on me and see how I'm feeling. Like, you know, so he's that type of person that really cares about the person.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It also is cool. I feel like Kentucky is one of those schools because they don't have an NBA team in Kentucky.

Speaker 1 Like all Kentucky fans root for Kentucky players for the rest of their career, like in the NBA. Like they're all, do you notice that?

Speaker 1 Will you go and like see, you know, Kentucky fans at random arenas like cheering you on? Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 It was, um, well, I just saw a Kentucky fan somewhere in Randall, yeah, like maybe in Minnesota, I don't know where I saw them, but like, uh, like, I'll see them like on vacation, like if I'm in vacation on vacation somewhere, and they're like, man, we

Speaker 1 uh big blue nation, like they'll say that, like, yeah, blue nation or whatever it is, and I'm like, I like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, like, you're really tied in for forever when it comes to Kentucky, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 What was the sales pitch like to get you to go there? Was Kyle like, I will make you rich beyond your,

Speaker 1 yeah, uh,

Speaker 1 and then you'll get trapped into the NBA and make more money.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there you go.

Speaker 1 No, um,

Speaker 1 I mean, to be honest, it was, it was two things. It was like, I want to win, you know, because for me, the national championship was in Dallas, it was in my hometown, so it was that.
And then it was

Speaker 1 like, you're going to be out of here in eight months. Right.
Yeah. Right.
I mean, like, I'm not going to keep you here, like, type thing. So, like, it was those two things.
And then, like,

Speaker 1 just visiting, I'm a basketball guy, like, you know, to my, to my core and my heart. And like visiting, like, there's probably only one other place that I really visited.

Speaker 1 And I was like, man, this place is like crazy, which was Kansas. Like,

Speaker 1 what was it? What's the arena long? Yeah, Fog Allen. Fog Alley.
Yeah. Whatever it is.
Like, that arena was crazy.

Speaker 1 And like, Kentucky, I was like, man, I get to play in front of 20,000 every single night. Yeah.
There's nothing better than that.

Speaker 1 So obviously going to Kentucky, you're like a five-star recruit coming out of high school. What was the point growing up that you're like, oh shit, I'm, I'm different than everyone else.

Speaker 1 Like I'm, this is, I'm so much better than everyone else. Like 11 years old.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Just dominating everyone at 11. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was your stat lines in 11? I mean, it was my mom, to be honest, because my mom, she, um,

Speaker 1 like for every like growing up, I was always bigger than everybody.

Speaker 1 She always made me play like a grade up, two grades up, three grades up. So like I'm playing against older kids.
And I'm like, I'm okay, but I'm not like that good. And

Speaker 1 then I played my first grade. My first

Speaker 1 time I played my grade was like 10, 11 years old. And I was like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 I was like, man, this is like the easiest thing ever. Like, I couldn't believe it.
Like, I was bigger, faster, stronger than everybody, but I was just more skilled because I was playing up in advance.

Speaker 1 So it was like, that was like a aha moment i just kind of never looked back from there what was your what was your what was your best high school game did you do you remember like one that you like put in an insane amount of points i just love thinking about like because anyone who's obviously in the nba they've just been so much better than everyone for such a long time it's got to be yeah the best feeling i play i mean my high school like i like uh like we were one of the best teams like in the country like um during my time there i had like 50 and like a three quarters or something like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was it fun?

Speaker 4 On like 20 shots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's got to be the most fun.
Yeah. It was a lot.
Always, the high school is probably like the most fun ever for basketball. Dominating everyone.

Speaker 4 I read a story that when you were playing AAU, I don't know if you were 11 or 12, but your team was so good that you guys flew private.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was because we were so good, but Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 That was the first time I played my grade, though. Yeah.
So it was like a funny

Speaker 1 basically how the story was, it's like I played up until this team called the Texas Titans started.

Speaker 1 The guy,

Speaker 1 shout out to the Trout family.

Speaker 1 Amazing, amazing family that took care of a lot of people. But

Speaker 1 the dad, he was starting a team for his son.

Speaker 1 Dad was a billionaire starting a team for his son.

Speaker 1 And basically his son was my age. He had two sons.
He had one my age and one like maybe two years younger than me or whatever. And he was basically starting a team for his son.
And,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 people who played on the team, we, we were flying like the Mavericks plane. Like rolling up his kids, you know, but he was, the bigger thing was like in AAU, like,

Speaker 1 you know, you had to pay for everything and you're out of pocket for everything.

Speaker 1 So like being a single, my mom being a single parent, like, I used to watch her struggle to like take me to tournaments across the country and drive drive and all that different type of stuff.

Speaker 1 Uh, and he took care of everything. So, like, he took care, like, obviously, we were flying private, but like, hotels, like, parents, everything was there.

Speaker 1 So, it was just like I'm dominating my age group, and I'm flying everywhere. Yeah, you know, I mean, like, it was, it was the craziest experience of my life.
That does sound like the best, yeah.

Speaker 4 And then you have to, you go to high school, which I was high school, that was a different team from the AAU team, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so you have to play for your high school team, you don't fly anywhere, yeah.

Speaker 1 We, I mean, we flew, but we flew American Airlines.

Speaker 1 Actually, it might have been Southwest. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a different kind of travel for sure.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, the fact that your travel was taken care of, it allowed a lot of people to play against competition that they wouldn't get to play against otherwise, right?

Speaker 1 It was crazy, man. Like, it was, it was like.

Speaker 1 Like, I couldn't, like, I don't even really know how to explain it, but like, as a kid,

Speaker 1 like, I,

Speaker 1 it was insane. Like, it was like the most fun time of my life.
Yeah, like, all you look forward to is like,

Speaker 1 all right, even like when the summer would end, like, AU season would be over with, and school would start, and, like, you know, basketball season probably wouldn't start again until November or December.

Speaker 1 Like, that's all you look forward to because, like, I'm playing with my best friends. We're traveling across the country, like, rock stars, like,

Speaker 1 everywhere. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Playing against the best teams, killing, like, you know, winning tournaments all over the country, like exposure, all this different type of stuff, visiting different cities as a kid.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, it's, it was insane. You know what I mean? So it was just like my experience growing up, um,

Speaker 1 you know, compared to what I was used to, like, and then to get that experience, like, man, it was like,

Speaker 1 you know, exposure is everything.

Speaker 1 Opportunity is everything.

Speaker 1 And for me to be able to like see that at such a young age, that's why like I bring my son, son, my oldest son, like I've always brought him with me like everywhere to like games and stuff because it's like the exposure just to be able to see like what's possible

Speaker 1 was like huge for me. You know what I mean? So like to see that at a young age, I was like, even like then, like we used to go to, he had like four seats at the Mavericks games.

Speaker 1 And like he used to bring us to the Mavericks games. And we were like kids sitting courtside at Mavericks games.
And like Kobe was my favorite player. So like I got to see Kobe at a young age.

Speaker 1 Like, and just to see that, like, it was like seeing Jesus.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? So it was, it was crazy, you know, and I think that had a lot to do,

Speaker 1 you know, with my growth and,

Speaker 1 you know, where I am today. Visualizing it.
Yeah, that's, that's huge. So you mentioned Kobe.
You, you get drafted by the Lakers. Kobe's at the end of his career.

Speaker 1 Does is he still psycho Kobe in terms of his workouts and everything? Is there a story?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like we've, we've heard them all, but what was the one where you're like, oh man, this guy is different?

Speaker 1 I would just say like

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 going to his,

Speaker 1 like he would work out obviously crazy early, like 5 o'clock in the morning, whatever it is, 6 o'clock. And just

Speaker 1 like, I probably told this story before, but just like, I've never been to a workout where I go. First off, at 6 o'clock, 5 o'clock in the morning, and we do defense for two hours.

Speaker 1 So you don't even dribble a basketball? We would have days where we would not dribble a basketball. Oh my God.
It's like Hoosiers, yeah. He did for two hours, two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 Like, and he was so technical. Like, like, no, you can't slide that way.
Like, you can't move your feet. Like, but literally, you think I'm exaggerating.

Speaker 1 We would do defense early in the morning for like two hours. And I'm just like, this dude's insane.
Yeah. He's insane.
Like, it was, and it was just his mentality. It was just different.
Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's crazy to consider, like, that's the end of, you know, his career. That was the end.
Like, when he's in his 30s and shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What he was like at 20, 25.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Early 30.

Speaker 1 Every practice, was it just full on, like, this is the most important game? No. Oh, okay.
No, he was like, because

Speaker 1 he was at the end. Yeah.
At that point, like, his body, and like he was injured a lot during that time, so his body wasn't holding up. Yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So it was like, it got to the point like if we saw Cobe at practice, we're like, oh, my gosh, like, Cobe's here. Yeah.
Type thing.

Speaker 1 That's why you saw that whole viral clip of him going like in on like Jeremy Lynn and Nick Young when they were fighting, the whole practice clip where they were fighting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was because like people were joking. They were like, man, Cobe is here.
Like we can't like believe it like sarcastic. And he just kicked everybody's ass.

Speaker 1 Did you play him one-on-one? Yes.

Speaker 4 Did you ever beat him?

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. But that was like the thing, too.
It was like, when I played him like one-on-one and like, I love that.

Speaker 1 Like, I wanted to compete, like, so, like, as a young player, I'm a rookie, I'm getting there early, and you know, I'm thinking, I'm you know, doing what I'm supposed to do as a young player, getting there early, and he was already there, like, working out, full sweat.

Speaker 1 Um, so, like, I'm walking onto the court, and he's like, Drew, come play 101. And uh,

Speaker 1 yeah, like I thought I was gonna get him, like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm

Speaker 1 and then he just flipped the switch, and it was, yeah, it was Kurt Crafty, yeah, yeah, that must have been a crazy experience, though, going from like, watching him courtside when you were a little kid.

Speaker 1 It was insane. Are you able to go hard?

Speaker 4 Are you able to play as hard as you want to against a guy that you've looked up to for that long?

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. It was just like

Speaker 1 one of those moments like, you know, you meet your idol. Not only do you meet your idol, but you're playing on the same team as your idol.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, it took a while to process. You know what I mean? Because you're just,

Speaker 1 it's like you watching every single thing he does. Yeah.

Speaker 4 This might be a dumb question, but I'm curious whenever I talk to an NBA player to know how you come up with new moves for yourself, like how you put wrinkles in your game.

Speaker 4 Is it something where you spend most of your time,

Speaker 4 or if you're watching like somebody else, you pick up things here and there, or do you have to get in like a creative mindset to figure something out?

Speaker 1 I think it's like maybe two things. I think like one thing, one is like you have like a game that you do, like, or like a like

Speaker 1 whatever your go-to is, or what you feel comfortable doing and you just kind of build up off of that and then like um so like you might add like i always got that from code like you don't have to add like 10 things to your game add one or two things you know i mean if it's a

Speaker 1 you know you got a step back add a add a pump fake step through to it or whatever it is um so like you have that and then like it's like little crafty things too like um

Speaker 1 Like one year I added like they took it out the game, but I used to have like the off-arm sweep through that I had or like now you have to have two hands on it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, like, little crafty things where you learn how to like draw fouls, or you know,

Speaker 1 learn how to just kind of like manipulate the defense and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So, like, it's one you add to like the base of what you already do, and then other is just like little crafty things that I might see a player do, and like, man, I like that. Let me try that out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when did you know that you were awesome at spin moves?

Speaker 1 Because that's like when I think of Julius Ray, it's like the spin move, you know?

Speaker 1 When was that?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like it's always been like.
It's just natural. Yeah.
Naturally, I feel like it's always been a part of me. Yeah.
Do you?

Speaker 1 So I looked up on Pro Basketball Reference, they have all your nicknames. I want to know how many of these actually people have ever called you.
They have Big Jew,

Speaker 1 King Julius,

Speaker 1 Don Julio. Don Julio.
Don Julio. Okay,

Speaker 1 I didn't know if it was Don Julio because it's Julius.

Speaker 1 Orange Julius.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 People have called me that, but that's not like a real spinner. Okay.

Speaker 1 And then Beyblade. Beyblade, yeah, I think that was like...
That's because of the spinner. Yeah, yeah.
That's an awesome nickname. I had to look up what Beyblades were.

Speaker 1 It's like a Japanese animation.

Speaker 1 And they spin around.

Speaker 1 That's an awesome nickname. Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 4 I was yelling Big Jew at you. I would just be like, I don't know if I'm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that one's a little. Actually,

Speaker 1 I got Big Jew. That was a nickname I got when I first got to Minnesota, too.
Okay. Who gave you that? Free.
Okay.

Speaker 1 How is it, like, what you obviously saw Anthony Edwards last year in the playoffs and everything.

Speaker 1 When you get to play with him, he does feel like a guy who just makes everyone better and like the confidence that he has. Is that accurate? Yeah, he's different.
Yeah. He's He's very different.

Speaker 1 Like, obviously, like, confidence-wise,

Speaker 1 he got the ultimate belief in himself. Yeah.
Like, he thinks he can do anything out there. He really, like, it looks like he can.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So

Speaker 1 he got the ultimate like confidence and belief in himself. And that's, like, contagious.
Yeah. Yeah.
I saw, like, what was it? The other night he scored like 27 in the first, was that him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 In like the first like quarter or like a little bit more? He's like, he goes unconscious out there. Yeah, when that happens, you're just like, I'm getting out of the way.
Like, just get him the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 find a way to get him the ball. Yeah.
Like, it's like one of those type of things.

Speaker 1 Like, when a guy like that gets on a roll, like, first off, like, going into a game, you want to try to bring that out of him, you know, as much as you can. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So for me, it's like, how can I get him easy looks to really get him going? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, like, once he's going like that, man, it's like, just keep feeding the high hand because he draws so much attention, it just makes the game easy for everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I would get caught watching his dunks if I was on his team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 He ain't trying to dunk right now. He's shooting that thing right now.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 He's so much fun to watch. He's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 He gets locked in. It's like, can't do it.

Speaker 1 And I've never seen, like, from an athlete perspective, I've never,

Speaker 1 it's different playing against him because you only play against him like, for me, it was like once or twice a year. You know what I mean? But now it's like, I see it every night.

Speaker 1 And I've never seen an athlete like that. Yeah.
Be able to like move the way he does, cover ground, like get downhill to be able to cut and just maneuver and he's not like

Speaker 1 a little guy he's a big dude yeah you know what i mean so it's just like for him to move at his size the way he does it's like it's special and he covers a lot of ground yes what three or four more years of him and then he's going to the nfl right yeah he's going to the nfl are you a cowboys fan yes oh no what's it like being a cowboys fan it's bad because we we talk about cowboys fans um we talk about cowboys what do you say about cowboys we talk so much shit.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, no, we...

Speaker 4 We had to skip Billis on.

Speaker 1 We had to skip Billis on, and we also had Dak ranked as the 17th best quarterback in the NFL this year. Accurate.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 we definitely...

Speaker 1 I mean, it's fun to shit on the Cowboys, that they're kind of that brand.

Speaker 1 It's like the Yankees, it's the Cowboys, the Lakers.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, are you ever going to win again? Because you're not old enough to remember the Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 You know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 I used to go to Deion's house as a kid. Really? I played basketball

Speaker 1 on the same basketball team as his son. No way.

Speaker 1 Put me in crazy shit. That's nuts.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're big Deion fans. He used to work here.
Yeah, I used to go to his house all the time. That's crazy.
Bucky, you know, Bucky, Deion the Jr. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, like, yeah, you're right. I'm not old enough, but.

Speaker 1 Like, my mom, she gives me hell about it because she's like, so what y'all going to do this year? Wait, well, who's she a fan of? She's not a fan of anybody. Oh, she just trolls you.
I love that.

Speaker 1 I love that. I'm a fan of the mom.

Speaker 1 So she used to say that all the time. I'm like, we're winning it.
We winning it all this year. What happened? And then it would happen.
Like, what would happen is the Cowboys would be the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 And she's like, what's going on? Like, you know what I mean? So, like, she would troll me all the time.

Speaker 1 And now it's to the point where I'm at of age where I'm like, okay, this is what it's like to be a Cowboys fan. But now I've made my son a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 Oh, you passed yes and he lives and dies by every game oh no it's cruelty and then huh it's cruelty it is it is and then my wife was recording the other day because we were watching i don't know who they were playing and he was like man we suck

Speaker 1 i was like yep that's what it feels like yeah yeah i mean that's i i have three kids and i they're bears fans and i i had to teach them what tanking was last year and that's a real humbling thing to explain to your kid that like losing is actually winning yeah and that's they like repeated it back to to me.

Speaker 1 I was like, Well, only when we're talking about the Bears, not like in life, that's complicated, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, no, it's good that we lost.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, I don't need to, I shouldn't teach this lesson.

Speaker 4 Did you ever feel like, as a Cowboys fan, you should go to Duke instead of Kentucky?

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 No, you did. Did you get recruited by

Speaker 4 Duke and Lakers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I did get recruited by Duke. So, what I, you were like, Coach K, not for me.

Speaker 1 Um, I actually, I was, I probably,

Speaker 1 I'm not admitting that, but no, no, I'm saying, I hate Coach K.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. No, I love Duke.
I love Coach K. Yeah.
But it was just like,

Speaker 1 I wanted to play for Cal. Yeah.
Like, I wanted to go to Kentucky. I wanted to play for Cal.
You know what I mean? So it was like,

Speaker 1 and Kentucky was like the cool thing. Yeah.
I mean, like, I grew up, like, I think my freshman year, that's when I knew I wanted to go to Kentucky. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Seeing John Wall and all those guys and stuff like that. It was like, it was nothing like it.

Speaker 1 But like

Speaker 1 being around like Coach K and just like he was coaching the Olympic team and stuff like that, so it was like

Speaker 1 it just duke, I didn't feel like I fit like Duke culture, yeah.

Speaker 4 Were you about to say, like, I went to Kentucky, big state school, a lot of people there, great student fan base, and then I went to Duke, smaller school.

Speaker 1 I visited

Speaker 1 not a lot of

Speaker 1 cool people to be around, yeah, from the opposite sex there.

Speaker 1 It was, yeah, I met my wife at Kentucky, so okay, yeah, there you go, smart move. Wait, so when did you start getting recruited by like these big schools at what age?

Speaker 1 Like my freshman year. That's crazy.
That's got to be kind of like a mind fuck to be like you're, you know, 14 years old and you've got D1 major D1 programs hitting you up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I really truthfully always wanted to go to Texas, like growing up in Dallas. Yes.
Like I grew up a Texas football fan, Texas basketball CNKD.

Speaker 1 They just like were on like the down

Speaker 1 side like as I was getting older.

Speaker 1 But like I played with a guy,

Speaker 1 Zach Peters, who was an amazing player.

Speaker 1 And he was going to Kansas. So like we already had like a bunch of coaches coming in and watching.

Speaker 1 And like they saw me and from there, it kind of just took off. Oh, so they would come see him and they'd be like, wait, who's that freshman? Yeah.
That's pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So

Speaker 4 I know that you, when you're recovering from an injury a little bit ago, you spent so much time off your feet that you actually got better at basketball because you were studying.

Speaker 4 It made you study. You got all that screen time in because you couldn't be able to walk around.

Speaker 4 Because I did read that you were forced to work on the mental aspect of the game more because you couldn't do the physical stuff.

Speaker 4 So what did you improve just by not having to be practicing all the time?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's been

Speaker 1 the great part of

Speaker 1 what's been unfortunate the past

Speaker 1 two or so years, like getting hurt at the end of two years ago and then last year, you know, dislocating my shoulder, which last year I was more prepared for

Speaker 1 than I was the year before. But like, sometimes you just got to slow down, man, like to catch up, to improve.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You get so caught in, you know, the cycle of, for me, it's like season ends, I train, you know what I mean? I don't take much time off to reflect to really, you know,

Speaker 1 you know, break things down. And for me, it was like,

Speaker 1 once I had like my ankle surgery, it was for me, it was like,

Speaker 1 I can't do anything. Yeah.
You know what I mean? So it was like, well, how am I going to improve? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Because that's always been my biggest thing is like, I take pride in getting better every offseason. Yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So it was like, well, I got to figure out a way to get better without physically being able to go and work out.

Speaker 1 And for me, it was like, I've always, for like the past like five years, really worked on the mental side of things.

Speaker 1 So it was like, I took that up a different level and then like just studying the game, you know what I mean? Just it's like the Kobe,

Speaker 1 you know, how aspect of what he's passed down to me, you know, of

Speaker 1 just how detailed he was,

Speaker 1 just how obsessive he was on like improvement. It was like, all right, well, this is taken from me.
Well, how can I, you know, work away?

Speaker 1 around that and you know for me that was basically what it was you know i mean so i just broke the game down study players that i like, and, you know, figure out how I can add to my game and get better.

Speaker 1 Was it frustrating the playoffs two years ago when you were playing very banged up and you had a ton of injuries and you, you know, you struggled at times?

Speaker 1 Like, was it frustrating having the fans be like, oh, why isn't he playing better? It's like, dude, I'm, I'm, I have so many injuries right now and I'm out here battling.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 that would drive me nuts where I would just, I would just complain about my injuries so much that everyone would be like, all right, stop complaining about the injuries. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Credit to you for not doing that. For me, it's like one of those things.
It's like, if you out there, figure it out. Yeah.
Like type thing. So it's like,

Speaker 1 it was more frustrating at the end of it where it was like, well, shit, like, that sucked. Like, we didn't win.
And I'm like banged up. Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So it was like, but like, I think for me, it just built character. Yeah.
Like more than anything.

Speaker 1 And it was just like one of those situations where it's like, man, these things happen, but just learn, grow from it,

Speaker 1 come back, get better, like type thing. There's no point in me feeling sorry for myself.
Like, nobody's going to feel sorry for you. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So it was just like, you know, get better, give yourself some grace. How many, what injuries were you, did you have there?

Speaker 1 I had like a bad ankle injury. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it was like your lift on your

Speaker 1 shot.

Speaker 1 I was going into games where I couldn't, like, I would be warming up like before the game and I'm just like, bro, I can't even move. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Type thing. And

Speaker 1 that's a a long story but like ended up like right after the season they're like man you need to get surgery yeah like type thing so it was just like all right cool yeah but it was i mean it was clear and you were battling through it which you should get more credit for yeah i mean and we're not knicks fans so we'll give you credit yeah i mean it's a different beast when you're in new york yeah no

Speaker 4 they don't care it is like big time if i tried to do this podcast and i had like a severe concussion during the podcast that's all i would talk about yeah

Speaker 4 hey listen none of the shit that i'm saying right now should count against me because i am banged up yeah and i would just milk that but i guess it's yeah different mentality if you're a professional athlete yeah it's it's different and it's just like for me um

Speaker 1 i think it's like the kobe spirit in me as well yeah it was like man i've seen this dude battle through so much um

Speaker 1 and just following him in his career and just knowing who he is as a human so it's just like man if you can give your team anything you know go out there and give them whatever you can you know obviously you don't criticize all that different type of stuff.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 like I said, man, I wouldn't change anything about it. What, what, because we are fans and we're stupid, what do fans get wrong about the NBA?

Speaker 1 Like, when they're watching it, or like, they're just, it's like, that's not how it works. Or

Speaker 1 I think it's from my perspective, it's that I don't think anyone, I think the average fan doesn't realize how incredible you guys all are at basketball, even like the last guy on the bench.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's that, and I don't think they understand how hard it is to win. Okay,

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 It is not an easy place. Like, every night is, like, I don't care who it is you're playing, like, let alone win a championship.
Right.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 to go out every night and win games

Speaker 1 and play at a high level, like,

Speaker 1 it's not easy. Yeah.
You know what I mean? It's like...

Speaker 1 And I say that because I come from a

Speaker 1 perspective of like I've been on bad teams and I've been on teams where it's not fun. like and you go into the arena knowing that you're outman outmatched and like

Speaker 1 you know if you win like it's like

Speaker 1 the biggest relief ever you know I mean because I've never grown up in my career losing games and I got into the NBA right you know I mean and was in rebuilding situations so it's like appreciating winning like at a high level like it's not easy to do.

Speaker 1 Wait, so in the NBA, when you've been on bad teams, do you guys still in the NBA do the thing that like you do when you're growing up playing team sports and you look across to the other team and you're like, oh, we're fucked?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
No, you don't do that. You don't do that.
But it's like. You count that.
You're like, all right, they got that guy, that guy, that guy, and we got, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, you don't, you don't do that. Like, at least me personally, like, you compete, you're a competitor at the end of the day.
So,

Speaker 1 like, I don't, I don't really do that, but like, I've been on teams where it's like, all right, man, like, we didn't win a game in two weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, we got to figure out how to win a game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you know, when you were growing up that every team you played did that for you. They were like, oh, we're fucked.

Speaker 1 Yes. I can guarantee.

Speaker 1 We could go get kids from Texas that were in that same area at that time and be like, yeah, what was it like playing Julius Ren? It's like, yeah, we showed up and we were fucked.

Speaker 1 You guys come to this.

Speaker 1 And on a private jet. They just saw you.

Speaker 1 They just looked at you and they're like, shit. My mom's like, not tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could feel it. I'm sure you could.

Speaker 4 Is there a, like, if you're in the middle of a losing streak, if you're on a team that's not going to compete for anything at the end of the season, it's a long season and it gets dragged out.

Speaker 4 Is there a difference between how to be a good teammate on a shitty team versus how to be a bad teammate on a shitty team?

Speaker 4 Like, can you pull together towards anything if you're on a team that's that bad?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's like all about environment, like, and

Speaker 1 like coaching, like stuff like that. You know what I mean? Because it's like you can lose games, but are you learning anything?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? It's like my biggest thing is like

Speaker 1 now it's like I'm either winning or I'm learning. You know, I'm never like losing anything.
Like if we lose a game, I'm learning something.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? If we're winning, I'm probably learning something, but it's like I'm winning or learning. So it's like, I've been on bad teams where we were losing and we weren't learning shit.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And I've been on teams where we were losing and we were learning and then eventually we got better. You know what I mean? And like

Speaker 1 that team, like specifically, I remember the team when I was with the Lakers like the last year, where it was like me, Lonzo,

Speaker 1 B.I., like, Koos. Like, we weren't a great team, like, to start with, but we started winning games

Speaker 1 because like we just had a good environment,

Speaker 1 good coaching. You know what I mean? Every day we were coming in, we were learning something.
Yeah. And eventually we started to win games and learn how to win games.
Now you're on a really good team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm on a great team.
Yeah. Really good team.

Speaker 1 When you first got into the league, who was the one guy that you were like, oh, man, he's way harder to defend than I ever imagined or like crafty or strength or

Speaker 1 Lamarcus Alders. Oh, good answer.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not a crazy vertical for Lamarcus Alders, but he was. But he knew how to get a bucket, man.
Yeah. And it was like very simple.

Speaker 1 But he knew how to like get buckets. He knew how to draw fouls.
Like he was,

Speaker 1 and he was like,

Speaker 1 he was at the time, like, when I came into the league, where it was like the big men were like, it was like real, still, like, big man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was like still two true, like, like, your power forward could be seven foot. You know what I mean? So it was like, it was still like that.
And, like, you had like three out, two in that type thing.

Speaker 1 So it was like he would get the ball on, was it their right block, maybe, or whatever it was, and he would go to work. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Very good.

Speaker 4 I've always heard also Stephen Adams is a crazy guy to go up against. Strong as hell.
Because he's like the strongest. He'll just go to knock your ass over.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was different, too.

Speaker 4 What about the first time you saw Wimby?

Speaker 1 It was crazy, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was that a guard? He didn't even look real. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't know if I want to interview him, but I just want to see what he's doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to see him walking by. Yeah, he was different.
He was different.

Speaker 4 He creates all sorts of math problems that you've never had had to figure out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Definitely.

Speaker 1 Definitely. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Um, all right, this has been so much fun, Julius.
We really appreciate you coming by. I had one last question for you.

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Speaker 1 We mentioned earlier the Tibbs practices. What's the craziest drill or practice that Tibbs would make you guys do?

Speaker 1 I'm fascinated by this stuff. We had Joe Keyman here and he told us what, was it Kirk Heinrich? He said used to sit in the in the in his car before

Speaker 1 the practices and just be like, god damn it, god damn it, I don't want to do this. Or is my mike done leaving maybe? We got this

Speaker 1 We got this drill called 100 passes. Oh, okay.
That sounds like a lot. And

Speaker 1 imagine like running a play and passing the ball around like

Speaker 1 five or six times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then start, don't shoot. And start the play over again and pass it another 10 times around, drive, pass, drive, pass.

Speaker 1 and keep doing it until you get to 100 passes. So he just, he created edging for basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that sucks that's terrible you shoot that man and then you get to 100 pass the 100 pass you shoot or whatever it is you can finally shoot yeah you finally shoot after after 100 drill

Speaker 4 damn just touch the ball a hundred times and then shoot yeah yeah yeah we got that

Speaker 1 would you and when you shot after you shot would you do it again yeah absolutely we'll do a different play or something oh my god yeah that's that was one of those drills where you like you get like one of the younger players you like hey man get in for me yeah he got looks over

Speaker 1 yeah you go run around. He's doing the 100-pass thing again.
You can see it coming. Yeah.
Oh, actually, I did have one other question. Wait, PFD, you had a last question.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was just going to ask you about some of the work that you do in the community because it's pretty cool stuff that you're up to. And I feel like a lot of people would like to hear about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. I think, I mean, it's really no matter where I've been.

Speaker 1 I think for me,

Speaker 1 just the work that my wife and I do is very important. We both come from, you know, single-parent families and just underprivileged kids.

Speaker 1 So we're always been about like helping the youth out, helping single moms out, just because we've seen our moms do it and struggle to provide us with everything. So

Speaker 1 we always are trying to figure out a way to give back

Speaker 1 and doing the same thing here in Minnesota. I'm going to be working with some kids here.
Skechers is helping out.

Speaker 1 So it's like, whenever I like partner with people or like brands or whatever it is, I always try to bring them in. But it's super important for us.
That's awesome. And you got a court named after you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Where's the court?

Speaker 1 That was in New York. That's in New York.
I worked with

Speaker 1 Nick's legend, Earl Monroe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And basically had this thing where it's like the amount of threes I made is what we donated. Like I had a bunch of people come in and like pledge a certain amount of money for every three I made.

Speaker 1 So like I think last

Speaker 1 this past year, we donated like 1.3 million to the Earl Monroe School. That's awesome.
Which helps like kids and they're doing like Earl, Dan, like those guys are doing an amazing job.

Speaker 1 Like they took they took these kids from the Bronx and these kids' reading levels were like three or four grades behind and like took these kids, put them in with like these great teachers.

Speaker 1 Their first graduating class is coming up and their test scores are amazing now. So that's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's way bigger than basketball. Like for me, like being a part of New York and that community, like it was big.

Speaker 1 And I'm still helping those guys out just because they're just incredible what they're doing over there. Where did you live when you were in New York? We used to live in New York as well.

Speaker 1 I was in Scarsdale

Speaker 1 for my first couple of years because you know we practiced

Speaker 1 in the city and then I was in Manhattan my last two years. I was in Upper West Side.
Our office was our old office was right across from Madison Square Garden. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I know that.
It's that area. It's it's good.

Speaker 4 Not

Speaker 1 during COVID. On which

Speaker 1 there was a couple times where I came in the office and there was like a guy jerking off in front of me.

Speaker 1 I said Minnesota is a lot more convenient. Yeah, you get in a car.
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 I do miss parts of New York, and it is nice not having to get in a car. But then when you do get in a car, it's like, oh, this is kind of nice.
Just put on

Speaker 1 music or podcasts. You just drive.

Speaker 4 It's got to be nice getting out to the Midwest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it. Stretching your legs a little bit.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Julius, thanks so much, man.
Anytime you're in the city, we'd love to have you back on. This was so much fun.
I appreciate you guys. Thank you.
Thank you. Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Hank, let's wrap up, guys on chicks.

Speaker 5 My husband and I have been married for a year and a half, and he is still weird about me seeing his dick when it's not hard. What?

Speaker 5 Whenever he's getting out of the shower or something, he always hides it and says we aren't that close, but his dick is definitely not small, so I don't get it.

Speaker 5 Is this typical guy behavior, or is he a psychopath?

Speaker 4 Psychopath. Not a psychopath, but at this point, yeah, you should be well beyond that.

Speaker 4 Now, a lot of women don't realize that the size of a man's dick can fluctuate wildly depending on anything from the temperature of the room to what pants they're wearing, what they're doing.

Speaker 4 Athletics, what they had to eat that day.

Speaker 1 Were they running?

Speaker 4 Are they scared at the moment? That's also a lie.

Speaker 1 He definitely has a small dick. Yeah, there's no

Speaker 1 if you had a big dick, you're you don't give a shit. Yeah, I thought he would be flushed

Speaker 1 everywhere.

Speaker 4 He's probably grower, not shower. Yeah, and yeah, at any given time, walking around, probably like an 80% difference in how big your penis can appear.

Speaker 4 He just wants, he's still putting on like the happy face for you. He's not afraid to show you his real self, and that's the problem.

Speaker 1 My urologist was a stool yesterday.

Speaker 4 Did you you show it?

Speaker 1 No. So I went to the urologist for my kidney stones.

Speaker 1 Guy, very nice, very nice doctor walked in and he was just like, hey, you seem familiar. Maybe an big online presence.
And I was like, sick. Nice.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we talked about my kidney stones.
He took the kidney stone. He's going to do a test and all this stuff.
Looked at some CT scans, whatever. And I was like, are you going to look at my dick?

Speaker 1 And he's like, no, I don't have to. And then I was just like, Well, I shaved for you, and that got awkward.
Do you want to?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then he said, After he's like, Just so you know, like, I follow you on Instagram, but I that I have been following you for a while. It wasn't, it didn't just happen.
I was like, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, depending on how my kidney stones go, that guy will look at my dick eventually.

Speaker 4 So, I had two urologists in New York when I was going through the same thing with kidney stones, one of which was an AWL of the show. Did not show him my dick.
The other guy was not.

Speaker 4 But you feel like you have to make small talk when the doctor is like

Speaker 4 moving your dick around and feeling things. And so he was like, so

Speaker 4 Sollenberger,

Speaker 4 is that the name of the guy that landed that plane in the Hudson?

Speaker 4 And the only thing I could think to say, because we were still doing that joke, was, yeah, you know, they named a drink after that guy. And

Speaker 4 the guy goes, oh, yeah? And then I just couldn't bring myself to deliver the punchline. I just, I joked big time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a big time moment.

Speaker 1 What's the punchline?

Speaker 4 You know the punchline. Yeah, gray goose with a splash of water.

Speaker 5 Okay, next. All right, speaking, I guess we'll go to this one.
Speaking of dicks,

Speaker 5 there's a picture that's involved.

Speaker 1 There are a couple pictures. Oh.

Speaker 5 Hey, PMT, I've been on three dates with this guy, and he's in Michigan for one month, and he sent me this update catching fish with his grandpa.

Speaker 5 Is this raging 14-inch boner, or does this man just love fish? Also, can I handle this in the future? What would you do?

Speaker 4 Thanks.

Speaker 5 So, I'm going to send the picture.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 And then I'm going to send it. Nope, I got it pulled up on the screen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the guy's got a hog. He's John Ham.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good for that guy.

Speaker 1 Good for him.

Speaker 4 He should be holding the fish up next to his dick to show how big the fish is.

Speaker 5 What if he just has stuff in his pockets and she's expecting the John Hammond?

Speaker 4 Now, so I'm looking at the angle right now. There could be something in that right pocket that gravity is pulling down.

Speaker 1 It could be a golf ball or just his phone.

Speaker 1 Do we have any other picture?

Speaker 5 Just the group text from this girl.

Speaker 1 So to her friends. Oh, is that it? Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, good. It is a girl.
Okay, so we have confirmation because obviously there's a lot of people who think the guys on chicks. There's a lot of men that write in.

Speaker 1 That would be an all-time wrinkle if this dude AWO basically concocted a story for us to look at his penis.

Speaker 5 No, so it's a group text from this girl. It's a girl sending the picture to her friends, and then one of her friends goes, is that his dick? I just choked.
Dude, the girl's telling that a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you got to, I mean, he's also, the fish is a nice fish. It's a really nice fish.

Speaker 1 And he's not doing the cheating thing where he's putting the fish too close to the camera to make it look bigger than it is. That and his dick.

Speaker 4 There's a good possibility this guy sent you that picture because there was something in his pocket weighing it down that made it look like he had a big dick and he wanted to send it to you so that you get excited.

Speaker 1 I don't know, dude. The guy's wearing the kurokis, the

Speaker 1 sunglass things. He's kind of sportsman.
I think that's a man's man.

Speaker 1 I think that's a man's man. You might be, yeah, might just be dealing with a guy with a hog.
We're gonna need this person to follow up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, after they go on the date to see if it's actually that. And the guy with the big dick and the fish, if you want to chime in with your size, soft and hard, we'll take that.

Speaker 4 Listen, she just needs to be like Sam Pittman. Embrace the hog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 All right, last one. And this is also from a girl who got tricked by her boyfriend.

Speaker 4 Hi, Alex. It's Mariah.

Speaker 5 I got your number from Nolan. He told me you won tickets to the Patriots game this Sunday.
Obs, I want him to go and have fun, but please make sure he behaves himself lol.

Speaker 5 Last time you guys went to a game, he didn't come home until the next morning. I'm working Sunday night and need him to be home to watch our daughter.
He's a 32-year-old child.

Speaker 5 I can't believe I even need to send this, but please make sure he doesn't get into trouble this time.

Speaker 5 And then followed up and said, oh, okay, I don't know who this is, but my husband's sitting next to me dying, laughing. Like, I said, I married a child.

Speaker 1 Wait, what is this? I'm a little bit confused. I'm very lost.

Speaker 5 This guy told his girlfriend that he won tickets to the Patriots game with apparently a person that he had previously gone to a game with and didn't come home until the next day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And then she said, I want to text them and

Speaker 5 like,

Speaker 1 do you have another cheese? She guys on shit. Wait, I know.

Speaker 1 This is a miss. Memes.

Speaker 1 I thought it was funny.

Speaker 4 I want to understand this.

Speaker 1 So the husband had her text this number. Yeah.
That was it. Wait.
The husband texted the guys on chicks. No, the husband had his wife.
Text the guys on chicks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like this dude for the record. No, it was a miss.
My bad. But this dude rocks.
The fact that the wife has to actually, if this story is true and the wife has to be like,

Speaker 1 hey, he has to look after our fucking daughter in the morning,

Speaker 1 that's awesome this guy is like he just got listen it's always

Speaker 1 when you get older in life

Speaker 1 those like moments of like oh the night got away from me i just didn't come home those don't happen anymore but if you know someone who that could happen to that guy rocks and it's always there's always one friend that you have to be on the lookout for yeah everybody's got that one friend and and getting to spend one night it's like a little it's a mini vacation that he gets like i i give him one night alone with his most unruly friend I've had moments in my life where I've been out with friends and it's like, oh, night got away from us.

Speaker 1 We just didn't go to sleep. We just went to the casino till 7 a.m.
or we stayed at the bar. Those are the best nights ever.
And I wish I could still do those. I haven't done one in forever.

Speaker 1 This guy rocks. Credit to him.
His wife wrote a confusing guys on chicks, but I love this fucking guy. He's the man.

Speaker 1 Pug, any presidential orders you got for us?

Speaker 1 I still got to link up with Blake and cook up some policies. So

Speaker 1 TBD on that. Okay, happy birthday, Pug, by the way.
Happy birthday, Pug. Happy birthday, Pug.
Big 3-0?

Speaker 4 11-11. That would be, what, 210?

Speaker 4 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 You're going up there.

Speaker 1 We're getting up in the years. Love that.
Yeah. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Also,

Speaker 4 I received a lot of feedback from Monday's show, especially the end of the show, accusing me of not saying love you guys to the listeners. Many people felt unloved.
I did say I love you guys.

Speaker 4 It seemed like this was Max during, you know, he's trying to hate week. He's trying to psych me out for hate week and take me off my game because the Eagles Commanders came on Thursday.

Speaker 4 Wouldn't be surprised if he does some monkey business and takes it out at the end of this show, too.

Speaker 4 But I did say I love you guys, and it was visible on the YouTube.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 1 Pug, when you fuck, if you fuck for like a minute, are you like, yeah, actually, that was seven.

Speaker 1 Dog years.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay, nice.
It would rock.

Speaker 4 Credit to you. Pug.
If when Pug became a dad, he had like six kids at once.

Speaker 1 A litter of Pugs going around would be so great.

Speaker 1 Pug, if you have

Speaker 1 anything,

Speaker 1 if you have six

Speaker 1 tuplets, six tuplets.

Speaker 4 Sex tuplets. Sex tuplet,

Speaker 1 the odds are like one in a billion. But if you do, I want you here and now to say that we're allowed to make one of those weird, creepy reality shows about them.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 okay. If it's seven, no.
If it's five, no.

Speaker 1 Six has to land exactly on six. That would be crazy.
That would be crazy. But guess what? We would be like, we would, the reality show would pay for your kid's life.
Six of them.

Speaker 1 The Puglets.

Speaker 1 Those shows. What was it? Octomom?

Speaker 4 Octomom, yeah.

Speaker 1 And Sean and K plus Eight. That was, those were.

Speaker 4 Nothing is a bigger guarantee of your life getting ruined than doing one of those shows.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. The Duggars.
The Duggars Numbers. Three.
Forty.

Speaker 1 Eleven.

Speaker 1 Five.

Speaker 1 Ninety-nine. Point.

Speaker 1 Twenty-one.

Speaker 1 Sixty

Speaker 1 Four

Speaker 1 Seventy-nine.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.