Minnesota Timberwolves Julius Randle, MNF, Cowboys In Disarray and Bears Start Firing, College Football Talk + Guys On Chicks

Minnesota Timberwolves Julius Randle, MNF, Cowboys In Disarray and Bears Start Firing, College Football Talk + Guys On Chicks

November 13, 2024 2h 11m Explicit

The Dolphins look the be prime spoilers and Sean McVay got confused on field goal strategy at the end of the game (00:00:00-00:06:41). Week 10 clean up and the Bears start their firings (00:06:41-00:24:39. We talk about the big Rivalry game coming up Thursday (00:24:39-00:38:31) and then talk College Football including the loser Brian Kelly and the weirdest undefeated teams remaining (00:38:31-00:56:09). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:56:09-01:12:50). We then welcome on Julius Randle in studio to talk about his trade to Minnesota, his career in the NBA, playing with Kobe early in his career, Kentucky, Cal and tons more (01:12:50-01:57:24). We finish with guys on chicks (01:57:24-02:09:38).


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We are going to talk about Monday Night Football, some things going on in the NFL, some cleanup from Week 10. We have college football talk.
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Today is Wednesday, November 13th, and the Miami Dolphins might be – I'm not going to say back. They're spoilers.
They're spoilers. They win Monday Night Football.
Tua looks good, and I don't know what the fuck to make of the Rams other than the fact that what the hell is going on with Sean McVay? Why are you kicking field goals on third down? The Dolphins are technically not out of it. They're the perfect spoiler team.
They might spoil a bunch of games, but if you look at the seventh seed in the AFC right now, we don't know. And this was a perfect weekend for it.
You had all their competition for that final seed ended up losing. The Dolphins win.
Tua comes back. Proves to us he can still make a tackle.
Yeah. Credit to Tua.
Sticking his head in there. That seemed like it was a bad idea.
But yeah, McVay kicking a field goal on third down. I don't know if that was the right decision or not.
They probably weren't going to win the game. No, that was the wrong decision.
And here's why. If you are going to play the game of we should kick a field goal before we try to get a touchdown, do it with like a minute and a half left the minute you get into field goal range.
Do it on first down. Yeah, but do it when you get into field goal range if you're going to go that route.
Otherwise, why would you give away a down? The harder thing to do is score a touchdown. Why are you giving away down there? Just go for it on third down and then kick the field goal.
It felt like he got like somewhere in the middle where he just didn't really make up his mind like you have to be decisive that the minute if you're like hey we got to get a field goal first do it with a minute and a half left I think so what we're saying is he made the right decision but just way too late way too late and then wait and then early to the point where it didn't where it ended up not being the right decision

because he waited so long to make the right decision.

And then he somehow waited way too long

and then also at the same time still did it early.

I mean, shout out to procrastinators.

I think it's a very relatable mistake to make.

I feel like he just was like,

I kind of didn't really have a plan here.

Fuck it, let's kick the field goal now.

He was like, oh shit, yeah.

I should have done this a while ago. I'll do it right now.
But someone should have said, hey, no, actually, don't do it right now. Wait at least one more down.
You know the old saying where there's never a good way to make the wrong decision? Yeah. This is like the opposite of that.
There is a bad way to make the right decision. Yes.
And that's what McVay ended up doing. Yeah.
I'm concerned about McVay's beard. So you know how he talked to us about the the beard procedure that he had he got like prp injected into his cheeks yeah it's scooped down way low it's it's it's looking pretty patchy on the sides i'm concerned about his hair yeah well the hair's another thing i i do he needs to he needs to go with wonton don and nicky smokes and white socks dave to turkey that's like a midlife crisis in a bottle right there.
I think that NFL coaches and coaches in general have done no favors by camera angles when it comes to thinning hairlines. Yeah, I would agree with that.
It's a bad spot to be in. But yeah, the Dolphins, they're not dead.
The Dolphins are not dead. They're probably not going to make the playoffs, but you still have some games that mean a little bit to you before you officially start playing spoiler and just being like, okay, I'm going to go into every weekend trying asshole well they have the raiders and the patriots next so if they can win those two games they're now sitting there five and six uh going into lambo they have to go six thanksgiving weekend uh so yeah i and i thought to have played great like i know that his numbers weren't like super flashy but even in the second half when they needed to get first downs when they needed to extend drives to keep the ball away from the rams they were able to do it and i there's something about the dolphins i think it's a night game and i think it's indoors they just look so fast and their in their uniforms pop and uh yeah i i i feel like uh they got another weapon too spoilers malik washington yeah so the the guy that ran in that first touchdown he looks so fast so fast like

how do they keep finding these guys i went up and looked up his combine stats because i was like how did the dolphins how did the league allow the dolphins to get another guy that appears to run like a four three i think he ran like a four five nine or four five at the combine now i'm so deep in the conspiracy where i'm thinking that like uh they they talk to guys who are fast and they say hey just run just run a little bit slower and then I'll draft you. Yeah, yeah, we'll take you.
And then we'll get you in an offense that works and nobody else will know that you're secretly very fast. They build the whole plane out of speed.
Yeah. And it works.
So, yeah, looking at the Dolphins, I think they are just the prime spoiler team. I think they have a game against the Texans and the 49ers later in the season.
They're going to win one of those two. It's not going to mean anything for them, but it will mean a lot for the team that loses.

So that's not, listen, being spoiler.

At this point, if you can't get to the playoffs, be a spoiler.

Yeah, but they're not there yet.

They still have that hope to clean up.

They still do.

If they can win the next two games, they still have a little hope.

Okay, other cleanup stuff.

Am I wrong to think that Micah Parsons didn't say anything wrong?

Thank you. can win the next two games they still have a little hope uh okay other cleanup stuff am i wrong to think that micah parsons didn't say anything wrong no the fact that he's on he's on the cowboys makes you think like this has to be a story anytime he says something yeah so so here's what he said after the game uh after another loss uh he was asked about mike mccarthy's hot seat and said, that's above my pay grade whether Mike is coaching again next year.
Coaching, Mike can leave and go wherever he wants. Guys I kind of feel bad for are veteran right guard, Zach Martin, guys who might be on there last year or on their way out because that's who I want to hold the trophy for.
And essentially being like, I don't give a fuck about Mike McCarthy. I guess people are saying, he went on to say, you want to win games and do great things with those type of legends who put in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever did.
I guess that would be maybe the shot. Those are the kind of guys that I have so much sympathy and hurt for.
I have no problem with it. It was honest.
Mike McCarthy can coach seemingly for the rest of his life. NFL player has a limited time to be on an NFL roster.
And he's like, yeah, the guys next to me who might be on their last year, those are the guys I feel for knowing that Mike McCarthy is going to be fine no matter what. I guess maybe saying you know they work harder than Mike McCarthy ever works I could see understanding that would be like maybe don't say that but this is one of those this falls under the category of you want your athletes and coaches to give honest answers and when they give honest answers we should be like that was an honest answer not holy shit how could he say that I think it's a fair answer to give but it's also knowing that you're a star player on the dallas cowboys know that any piece of media you put out there is going to take an out of context correct and then you're going to have to answer actually it's a great move for his podcast to be open and honest because not only do you get the initial news bump when you say something but then you also get the clarification podcast yes where you go back on and address the controversy.

You might ask yourself,

is it wise for a star player to have a podcast and say at times inflammatory things,

or is that mostly the position that should be withheld

for people that are media trained,

like the owner of the team,

when he does his weekly radio hit,

and he does the exact same thing.

Yes.

They're gorging the media.

They're just filling up the news cycle with things to talk about with the Dallas Cowboys.

And somehow, Micah Parsons' quote about Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy's response quote about us handling it like men. We had a conversation like men.
Men. Which is a great thing to say.
Yeah. How did you address this? Well, I'm a man.
And he's a man, so we had a man to man. I just assumed when Micah Parsons says we had a like men it was just mike mccarthy on the shitter and michael parsons maybe sitting next to him in the stall next to him being like hey should we talk about this real quick they're playing battle shit yeah with each other yeah but you're right you're exactly right that this is like a cats in a cradle situation michael parsons learned it from jerry jones exactly you can't you can't say michael parsons how are you saying this well you we say everything here yeah you can't you can't discipline michael parsons for doing the exact same thing that your owner does right on a weekly basis as he's fighting he's fighting now like a two-front battle one against uh the pr machine around michael parsons and jerry jones is also fighting a battle against the sun and he's currently losing that battle to the Sun although

they have adapted they've adapted a little bit Mike McCarthy did that press conference yesterday and the Sun was beaming straight into his eyes yeah the podium was yep so they set up a little sunblocker for Mike McCarthy I mean what do you got what are you going to do you put up a sun blocker you wanted to bulldoze the entire stadium next yeah the facility you can't do that do that I do that i did like that move by uh by jerry jones being like hey here we'll answer the critics on the sun yeah we got you bang we figured out a solution to it but i had no i i really have no problem with michael parson saying because there's a lot of truth in it that you i think an nfl player as much as you don't maybe want to say that quiet part out loud they are always going to care more about the guys next to them in the locker room than they are about a coach he also complimented his coach yeah it's not like he he said you know at this point i can't control what the coaches do they make some decisions that i don't like but i'm going to go out there and play for the guy next it's not like he threw mike mccarthy under i guess a very very large bus it's just the fact that he did not praise mike mccarthy enough as he talked about or or say the cliche thing which the reporter was fishing for is michael parsons being like no we're still fighting for our guy mike mccarthy yeah which would have been not true like they they're fighting to win games but this is also the point in the NFL season where guys do start making business decisions. Where it's like, listen, we're not going to go to the playoffs.
We're not a good team. I've got to get my stats.
I've got to put it on tape. I've got to play for my next contract.
And again, Mike McCarthy will be fine because if he doesn't get another head coaching job, he'll get a consulting job. He'll get paid $3 million to sit and find the next jets or the bears next head coach like that's what he's gonna be fine and then he'll say it should be me yeah right so he he's now i set up for life i i don't have a problem at all with what mike parson said but what i did have a problem with is that he referred to his defensive coordinator as zimmerman so i don't think he knows the name of his defensive coordinator.
He might not. I think he thinks his name is Mike Zimmerman.
Well, he was hurt for a while, Micah Parsons. I know.
So that might be. You would think that he would at least get his defensive coordinator's name correct.
It was close enough. I guess.
Maybe they just call each other man. Yeah, he's the Zimmerman.
Yeah, he's the Zimmerman. That might be it.
Yeah. Okay, other news.
The Bears fired Shane Waldron, which was just a Band-Aid on a gaping wide hole that's going to keep bleeding out forever. Yeah, so Shane Waldron, Luke Getze, both get the ax early.
You had to. Both Eberfluses hires.
Now, here's what's crazy is that when you look at Shane Waldron being fired and how that all shook out yesterday, Adam Schefter said that the Bears are going to make a decision. They're going to move on.
They're going to make some changes on offense. It could be their coordinator, and it could be their quarterback.
Why did Adam Schefter – why did the Bears even throw that out there? In what world is benching Caleb Williams right now now a solution to anything i actually think there's a i don't want him to be benched but there actually is a world where it solves a little something in the fact that uh you now have we're we're for all the jokes we made about the panthers and be in fleecing the panthers we are the panthers from last year in that you had frank wright who was like a lame duck coach, and he was calling plays. And then he gave Thomas Brown play calling duty for three weeks.
And then he took the play calling duty back. Now the Bears, lame duck head coach, rookie quarterback, give the play calling to Thomas Brown, who's now the Bears offensive coordinator, probably going to take it back after he sucks.
So I'm just worried that, I mean, it probably doesn't matter at the end of the day, but yeah, I think you could probably hurt Caleb Williams even more by having him run an offense that doesn't work whatsoever. I want him to play, but it's gotten so bad that I actually could be convinced that like, yeah, maybe we should just sit him out and just start next year fresh and be like new team, new new you know like you never even played an nfl game caleb yes thank you have a question yes i saw that the uh waddle and sylvie account posted that veteran players had went to the coach and asked for bajin yeah sylvie sylvie said there were people asking yeah dj more probably but listen that's bad this the whole thing is bad like The players should want Caleb.
It's correct that if the system's bad, maybe it's bad for his progress, but the players in the locker room want to win. You would think the fact that they don't want Caleb as their QB is bad.
Caleb is broken right now. Although it's probably just DJ Moore.
Yeah, and Iberflus has broken him to a point. I mean, you can see it when he plays.

They stressed it all

summer, like, hey, we want to take

the aggressiveness out of him. His brain

is locked up every time he drops back.

I think the players want, if a

player did go to the coaching staff and say, we want

to have Bajan play instead of Caleb

Williams, do you think it's because

that's the fix that they learned last year that

worked in the short term when they put

Bajan in and the offense looked a little bit better? So

the solution that they have in their minds is

Let's go. do you think it's because that's the fix that they learned last year that worked in the short term when they put Bajan in and the offense looked a little bit better so the solution that they have in their minds is let's get Bajan in or is this a completely different problem that the Bears have this year compared to what they had last year they are the same it's the same problem every year for the Bears they are actually running uh essentially the worst anniversary year uh of all time it's It's the 10-year anniversary of the 2014 team.
That was Mark Trestman's last year. And down to like a T.
It was actually when the season started to spiral, it was losing to the Dolphins, Brandon Marshall and Robbie Gold getting in a fight in the locker room. Always great when your kicker gets in a fight.
Losing to the Patriots, that was the famous Lamar Houston towards ACL after sacking Jimmy Garoppolo when we were down 40 points. And then, so we lost the Patriots.
Then the next week was the game that Aaron Rodgers threw like six touchdowns in the first half. So it went Patriots, Packers, and everything.
And then Jay Cutler got benched for Jimmy Clawson because Mark Trestman was trying to save his job. So this is, it's just history repeating itself.
I do think they probably at some point will probably be like, yeah, we'll just put in Tyson Bajan. That actually sounds worse.
What? What you just described is a much worse situation than now. No, it's the same.
Jimmy Clawson? It's the same, Hank. It's the same.
I kind of agree with Hank. We had a guy tear his ACL celebrating a sack down 40 points he sacked a backup quarterback it's the same it's just a clusterfuck and just firing guy and then you know Cromer got fired like the whole thing the Bears are a joke of an organization I've been over this a million times I think this is kind of the last time I'm ever going to believe I don't think that it's the same because Caleb is still he's got the talent to be.
What was the knock on Caleb when he came out of college? He holds on to the ball. Fingernails.
Yeah, I think crying. Yeah.
He holds on to the ball too long. But he now holds on the ball because they told him don't throw picks.
I think it's a different holding on to the ball too long problem than what they had last year. That's why I think that going to Bayesian doesn't fix anything.
Because last year, the holding onto the ball too long problem was because Justin Fields just couldn't get the ball out on time. Because he couldn't process it.
With Caleb, I think the problem is more that he just believes that he's going to be able to make a play. And he holds onto it and tries to run around.
Ends up getting sacked. Runs out of bounds.
Whatever I think it's a different reason for holding on to the ball too late. Well, no, it's everything.
Caleb is tentative and not seeing anything well, playing bad. The offensive line, playing bad.
And the schemes don't work. I watched some tape.
I watched the tape. Essentially, Keenan Allen is playing DJ Moore's position from last year.
DJ Moore had a great year last year. We're getting him in motion and letting him beat guys off the line of scrimmage.
Keenan Allen is old. He's not as fast as DJ Moore.
Why is Keenan Allen running DJ Moore's plays? And DJ Moore is just being put out wide and just being like, okay, just get jammed at the line of scrimmage. Like don't it,

the whole thing is a mess.

It will never get fixed.

We hired a fucking,

the guy who's running the whole operation is Kevin Warren,

who remember tried to cancel football.

He doesn't fucking like football and it's all,

it's never going to change.

So I,

I think I,

I think I might've reached the point where it's,

I'll never believe again,

but if they go up seven, nothing on the Packers, they're back. No.
They're back. I think I'll never believe again.
I would bet $1,000. I'll put $1,000 into the part of my take.
What do we call that? The tip jar? Yeah. That when the Packers, if they go down to the Bears, Big Cat will be like, like the Bears are back I think I'm never going to believe again

I mean we did it with Mitch we did it with Justin we did it with

Caleb I think I'm I think it's

rotten to the core it has nothing to do

with who they they're going to hire the fourth best

offensive coordinator

to be the new head coach

and we're going to try to be

sold on that and I'm not going to fall for it anymore

do you think I

there's any chance that that is true

no no yeah

unfortunately probably do you see the one guy I saw

I'm not going to fall for it anymore. Do you think there's any chance that that is true? No.
No. Yeah.
Unfortunately, probably not. Do you see the one guy I saw on Friday night? He was wearing a Drake May Bears jersey.
That's tough. Kind of wild.
But Drake May would suck on the Bears. Yeah, I think Jayden Daniels would suck on the Bears.
This is the Patrick Mahomes. Jayden Daniels is really good.
This is the Patrickomes. You know, like we've passed on Patrick.
We didn't pick Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes would suck on the Bears because the Bears are a joke of an organization.
That's just how it works. Nothing's going to change.
They don't care about winning. And yeah, Shane Waldron, like that doesn't solve anything.
That was also the first time they've ever fired an offensive coordinator midseasonseason that's good yeah great awesome progress it is very funny that luke getzee and and shane waldron are the only two offensive coordinators fired this year and they both were hand selected by matt eberfluss yep and luke getzee was fired obviously by the raiders like week six so knows how to pick them should have fired matt when you had the chance last year should have fired matt when we had had the chance. Didn't do it.
Didn't do it because we're fucking a joke. He was like, come on, I'll get hot.
Get funked up. Get a haircut.
Any other NFL things? How are you doing? Meh. Okay.
You're in hell with me? Yeah, I'm just looking at coaches. Okay, what do you got? What did you find? Deion Sanders.
Okay. Culture okay culture changer unfortunately Deion's going to the Cowboys unfortunately Deion might be going to the LSU Tigers there was a flight tracker today that a flight from Boulder went to stopped in Dallas where Deion has a house then went to Baton Rouge and then stopped in Houston and then went back to Boulder where Deion also has a house that's very interesting i love flight tracking i love it i love it i've said a million times if the sec message boards had been in charge of norad on 9-11 we would shut that shit down they are all over the private jets and uh if they are saying it then that i have no choice to believe it but i do think that dion dion to the cowboys would just be a lot of fun dion and sure i think he's just gonna go wherever shador goes yeah which i why not that would make for an interesting dynamic in the nfl if if your coach's son is also your quarterback i hope i hope i hope lebron lebron comes out and he's like this is not right yeah head coach should not be coaching his son so you're looking at coaches what dion sanders what else? Deion Sanders, Mike Vrabel.
Somebody threw out the idea, John Gruden. Yeah.
Mike Vrabel, by the way, he's the winner of this whole thing because he's going to get whatever he wants. Whatever he wants.
Yeah, there's a lot of teams out there that need men. There's a man problem in the NFL.
Yeah, there's a big-time man problem society that's right by the way did you see uh so here is here's how bad it might go down as one of the worst head coaching uh carousels of all time 2022 here i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you all the coaches so these are the good ones mike mcdan O'Connell good coaches good hires here were the other this is 2022 coaching vacancies Brian Dable got hired by the Giants he's probably gonna get fired Doug Peterson already fired Todd Bowles that was kind of coaching place Josh McDaniels already fired Matt Eberflus gonna get fired Dennis Allen already got fired. Lovie Smith already got fired.
Nathaniel Hackett, already fired. Matt Eberflus, going to get fired.
Dennis Allen, already got fired. Lovie Smith, already got fired.
Nathaniel Hackett, already got fired. Ten head coaching vacancies, and half of them have already been fired.
Yeah, I do like the idea, though. I think Josh McDaniels is a shitty head coach, and I don't know.
At some point, another team might take a chance on him, but I like the idea of him getting back with Belichick. Yeah, that would work.
Because if Belichick can keep him in line a little bit. That would work.
That would absolutely work. Because I feel like they do good cop.
Bears. They do good cop, bad cop, but somehow Bill Belichick is the good cop in that relationship.
That's how shitty of a police officer Josh McDaniels is. You don't understand.
The Bears will never hire someone who's an alpha or a football guy. They't because they just want to have kevin warren in an empty suit be the guy who's in charge somehow this is never going to happen they're never going to hire a guy who's like this is it's my way or the highway i'm running this i'm bigger than the organization it just won't happen because that would be a good move and they don't it's a the road.
And if it's good move, they always go the other way. Memes, what do you think about Rex Ryan? Hmm.
Oh, some glory days. I can make a sick, sick hype video.
Sometimes you got to go back to move forward. I would love Rex Ryan.
Yeah, you would. I mean, at this point, it does feel like that's the next move for the Jets, right? Is glory days.
Yep, and that fits into the historical higher X Ryan after you get rid of the Green Bay quarterback. Two FC championships.
Wife gets a tattoo of the next quarterback. Yep.
Foot fetish comes back. And then you're back.
Then you're back. Who else would be a good glory days? Eric Mangini? Nope.
The man genius? Nope belichick glory days he would never no he hates him so much i just want someone who wants to get top bulls p carol now bill parcells bill parcells is he still alive oh yeah he is he's very much a lot p carol yeah he talked member darren rizzi called dan campbell and bill parcells yeah par very much alive. He just spends all day at the track, I bet.
Yeah. And taking phone calls from coaches.
Yeah. As a mentor.
All right. Last thing about NFL before we do college football.
How are you guys? We're two days away from a PMT, all-time PMT rivalry match for the NFC East. How are both sides feeling? It's hate week.
How are both sides feeling? I feel good. I feel love.
You feel love? Whoa. What does that mean? I don't know.
You can choose hate. I'll choose love.
Okay. PFT, do you think you're going to win this game? I actually do.
Okay. I think that the commander's going to win this game.
I also went back and re-watched the film. I watched every play.
That was continue. You don't know what say you don't know what i'm gonna say max yep you're debating a ghost right now yeah i was gonna say that the steelers defensive line and their linebackers played exceptionally well yeah they're really really really good on defense they limited jayden to not scrambling at all i think he had like maybe five yards rushing we didn't really do any design runs and when we did try to do them they didn't work and he just got down immediately uh they did a great job the pittsburgh steelers are a very very very good football team and if you look at how the commanders bounced back to their other great loss that they had which was against the ravens i feel like we're we're in a good position i trust dan quinn what was the game after the ravens uh i believe that was the Panthers.
And that's when Mariota went out there and lit them up. Now, there's some frauds.
There's some fraud talk out there. Yeah, also, can I say I'm, because the Bears season is completely over, I'm now getting personally offended for you on the fraud talk? I'm not.
I'm not offended by it. Oh, I am because I saw someone say the Commanders have not beat – they've lost all their games to winning teams, and they've only beaten losing teams.
That's just not true. Yeah.
They beat the Cardinals. Yes.
They beat the Bears when they were 4-2. Yep.
And they – well, I mean, they were. They were, and they also lost to the Bucs who were – I don't know what – I feel like those arguments always – you just – I guess the person was taking it their record at the time of playing.
At the time, which you can't do. You can't do that.
But if you do that, you beat the Bears who are 4-2. Yeah, exactly.
So you can't switch back and forth. You can't be like, oh, we beat the 4-2 Bears, but that counts as an under-500 team, but we also beat the 2-4 Cardinals who are now 6-2.
Yeah, listen, you have to be consistent when you do your fraud stats you either have to say right now what are the team's records yeah that you beat in the teams that you lost if you go by right now guess what the cardinals are a good team yeah we crush the cardinals but here's why i'm not upset at all about the fraud talk i it's an honor to be called a fraud as long as i've lived i have i've yearned for somebody to think highly enough of my football team to the point where they can hate my football team i don't know the fact that no i don't get i don't i don't give a fuck you can call me guess what if you lose the eagles by a lot i that's not a good thing to be like you're a fraud no i'm talking about right now as we stand right now guess what bernie bernie madoff he lived a long time as a fraud and he had fucking islands that he vacationed but he also probably had a great run but he probably also stayed up every single night being like someone's gonna catch me he had a great run being a fraud and i i think this is how big of a loser i am this goes against hanks all his messaging to me of how to handle winning now i'm gonna go against it for a a second because being called a fraud, we haven't been nearly good enough in decades for somebody to think that we're so highly rated that we could even possibly be frauds. Nobody thinks that a 4-14 team is a fraud.
Or excuse me, 4-13 team is a fraud. Yeah, I don't agree with this sentiment, but okay.
Yeah. Going back to what Max was alluding to, I think was the drop catches that, that Jaden had.
Have you upped? Have you, have you recounted the ballots? Like there's some people. Did you watch the compilation that PFC put together? No.
And you know what? It was all pass breakups. It was, I think there were two drops and six pass breakups.
That's not true at all. That's not true at all.
And I forgot to put in the Luke McCaffrey drop that he had, which would have been another 25 yards. I'm going to go back and repeat what I said on Monday, which is Jaden did not play his best game.
It wasn't his best game. He didn't look outstanding.
I made you say that, though. Yeah, he did.
But you're right. Yeah, no, no, good.
I'm happy for the listeners that we got that jayton pft's account why are you on jayden daniels i'm trying to do too many things yeah he did not play his best game but i think that he max did make you say that he probably left about i'd say 65 to 70 yards on the field and drops and a touchdown that was dropped okay all right let's see it's see it. That's George Pickens.
George Pickens, yeah. Here we go.
All right. That was a drop.
I'm counting that as one drop. We're on drop watch.
Hank left. He's just like, I don't want to do this.
That's a pass breakup. No, the defender didn't touch it.
I think the defender broke his hands there and got in front of his face.

Like he was covered.

No, watch.

It bounces off his shoulder pads.

Boom.

And his face mask.

That's a drop.

Off his face mask.

Drop.

That's maybe a pass breakup.

Watch the replay.

Okay.

Okay.

I mean, he got his hands into his hands.

He would have – Terry would have re-caught that.

That's a drop.

That's a drop.

That was a catch.

No, he dropped it.

You didn't see it.

It bounced off the ground.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's how obvious it was.

That's a pass breakup. That's a horrible throw.
That's a a pass break up and behind him yeah so there's two drops so far how long is this video throw that's a bad throw so it's two drops and then there was a luke mccaffrey one that he also dropped yeah because that was that last one was a missed throw i would say of the drops compilation that i put on, there were at least three drops. I think it was between two and three, depending on how you're looking at it.
There was another one that I didn't include. How did you not include that? Also dropped.
Because I didn't have the replay of it. You can't count the one that you didn't include.
That's true. You put so many that weren't drops.
How am I supposed to believe? This game is your entire season, PFD. I would agree.
You think so? Yeah. I think I am rooting for the commanders, and I will be personally heavily invested in them, but I think if they lose this game, it's their third playoff game that they've lost, and the season's over.
you guys will be officially be frauds no the teams you've beat are trash like you guys were celebrating and it was because it was an exciting game and a good uh finish and so it's like you know you you lived off of that hail mary but it was against the bears yeah yeah and we almost beat them yeah we've got some great losses though it's really good losses i i don't think your season's over i think you'll still go to the playoffs but i this is why i push back on the fraud thing i don't being if you lose to the eagles by a lot being a fraud like that sucks because everything you thought you thought is not real well no i i disagree because in this season this is all this is all gravy this is all extra so i didn't think that the commanders had a good enough team roster wise to compete and even be this good and win this many games i was expecting you know eight wins tops but what if jayden plays like he did last week again against the eagles does that not make you nervous about well yeah obviously i want to see how many drops i want to see also have a very good defense yes i want to see jayden continue to play. That's obvious.
But this is such an unexpectedly good season so far that to have this many wins I think is great. I'm not going to be upset about outperforming expectations because it tells me, number one, we've got a quarterback that we can build around.
Number two, our coaching staff did a hell of a job to get this much production out of guys that were either brought in off the scrap heap or guys that are holdovers from the previous regime that are just not, they haven't shown to be that good. And to get them to all buy in and outperform expectations, I think that's a great thing.
So it's not like, it's hard for me to be disappointed about being a fraud if I never thought that we would even get to this place. What I'm basically trying to say is it's on the table now.
And it's the true sicko and perverts are rooting for this. And they're who knows what's going to happen.
But if we were running a race, the race started and Jane Daniels car went so fast down, down. Like he just was going so fast, looking great, Lambo.
My race started, my car didn't start, and then it went like 60 miles an hour, and then it literally blew up. There's another car that has shown up to the race that is showing that it could be faster than all the other cars, and that would be the worst outcome.
Drake, man? Yeah. That's what everyone who's listening to this podcast is rooting for, and it's like, look at his face.
Look at his face. He's already gotten one out.
Do you think that Drake is that car? I'm starting to believe. This is so sick.
It's so sick it's so sick analogy that car didn't have a driver because the driver was like i don't really care yeah and then start off the gate and then it started rolling for a little bit and then the driver had to be convinced by his other two podcast co-hosts to get into the car and start driving reluctantly and then he wins the race because the driver just wants to win races but that's the thing like winning winning races against shitty cars doesn't matter you want to beat the good cars and when you've experienced winning those big races then you know beating lower tier cars just doesn't really mean as much so that is why and again as much there i don't think i think jay daniels is very very good would you it looks great? But there's also just the fucked up nature of this ecosystem that that's the only part. It's like I'm not down on Jaden Daniels for any of his play.
I'm down on Jaden Daniels because of how this podcast operates. Yeah.
Would you say that? Does that make sense? In this analogy, Big Cat, would it be fair to equate this to getting a car that you love and you're super pumped up about and you show off to everybody, and then you drive it around and then you keep bragging about it, and then it stalls in the middle of the freeway during rush hour? Yeah, kind of like that. And then the Audi just shows up and always runs well.
I'm not down on Jaden at all. No, I'm not either, but you know what I'm saying.
I think he had maybe one of his worst games of the season, which was still a good game. He was okay.
Max? No, I actually agree with that. I think that's fair to say.
Yeah, I'm not down on him. The only part that I'm down on with Jaden Daniels is that this is such a fucked up world that we live in.
That that car might. Yeah.
Sitting on the couch. Yeah, the scars.
Just like smirking a little bit, being like, whoops, me? Jane Daniels didn't make a bunch of mistakes last game. No.
I just didn't think he had like a good game. Yeah.
If he had played like he did against the Bengals, then we probably would have won that game. Right.
There were a couple throws that he missed. There was one on that final drive, which would have probably gotten us into field goal range at the very least, that he missed the one to Brown.
He had a miss to McCaffrey when we were backed up in our own end zone that he missed. So, yeah, there were some mistakes out there, but I'm still buying all the Jaden Daniels stuff.
As you should. I think that he is going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
And let me double down on accountability. Eagles really haven't beat anyone either.
Depending on who you think about the – obviously the Packers win at the beginning of the year, big win. And depending on what you think of the Bengals, those are the only two good wins.
That's accountability. And I'm going to stick with what I said, that I think that the Eagles have the better team.
I think they've got the better roster. But if our quarterback plays to the top of his ability, I think that we can win this game.
Yeah. My car's blown up.
Blew up. Also massive.
Matt, like it's my car is one of those like buses in India with like 100 people on the roof and it flipped. Credit to the Steelers too, because Russell Wilson played very, very well.
And I think that the Steelers are a legitimate threat. Also, Mike Tomlin, you're not a degenerate.
There was lip reading afterwards where you said, do not snap it, do not snap it. Okay.
So he was not going to go for that. Yeah, I mean, that's a dumbass play, a dumbass penalty we committed at the end.
Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's talk some college football before we do that.
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College football. We are three weeks away from Thanksgiving.
Championship Saturday coming up very shortly. of course as we all expected

on November 12th

the undefeated teams are Oregon

BYU, Army, and Indiana. Huh? Huh? Indiana looked good.
Yeah, well, they played. Michigan kind of almost won that game.
But, yes, they're 10-0. It was the first time the Indiana didn't just beat the brakes off someone.
I think there was a not-so-quiet conglomerate of people that were saying that this was the week, though, that Indiana gets introduced to real Big Ten football. Yeah, I mean, that's been happening for the last three or four weeks, and they just keep on winning, and Kurt Signetti is coach of the year for sure.
Indiana, I think it's the first 10-win season for Indiana ever in football i think being nine and oh i think that was a record too for them you see his uh daughter uh got engaged to after uh the game with a video board the his future son-in-law said being with you is like being 10 and oh every day i'm undefeated in life yeah i don't know what his plan was if they lost to michigan be like being with you is like being1 in a really good season. Yeah, you're a 9 and I'm a 1.
Yeah, and they have their big game against Ohio State coming up, which will be another noon game. That's the big controversy.
Big noon kickoff. Ohio State's finishing the season with all six straight noon kickoffs.
Can we talk about big noon Saturday real quick? Yeah, but before we talk about it, i just want to say um this makes no sense he seems like a really nice guy it weirdly bothers me that joel klatt's name isn't joe klatt joe klatt yeah i don't i don't like that his name's joel i don't know joel klatt yeah i just i it's just an extra l that i just don't really want to say schrodinger's klatt yeah do you guys is that guys, is that a crazy take? Kind of. Yeah.
Okay. I've never had a problem.
I've always had a problem with it. I don't know why.
Joel. Joel Klatt.
Like he's just a Joe Klatt. Joe Klatt.
I don't, I, it just makes, he's making me do more work. Joe Klatt.
Yeah. But he went on a big tangent being like, it's actually good.
And it was essentially just saying it makes more money for fox yeah so that's the thing about big noon saturday is it is entirely it's a marketing gimmick that was designed by fox to try to create a window of college football that people are excited to see where there was not a window before correct where as in the past you had the the 330 on the east coast kickoffs then you had the night games uh and those were the two big windows. And Fox has rights to TV games.
So they said, why don't we just build an entirely new brand of appointment television around an early game? That's fine. It's nice to have more like a full day of big college football games.
It's nice to have one game that you can circle in each window. If your house that has one TV.
This is what I'm going to be doing early in the day. This is what I'm going to be doing as I take a nap in the afternoon.
This is what I'm going to be doing when I eat dinner and watch a big college football game at night. That's kind of nice.
But to make all your most important matchups happen that early, it feels like there's a lot of people that don't like watching those. Number one, the fans that are going to the games.
Yeah, Penn State, Ohio State should have been a night game. You don't have enough time to tailgate beforehand.
You don't have enough time to get drunk enough to get a true home field advantage if you're at that game. And yeah, it feels more important when it's at night.
And it is, I have been a critic of Gus Johnson just because he has had at times been, I've liked Gus Johnson, but there's been times where it's like a five yard out in West Lafayette at like 1105 and he says it's like winning the Super Bowl and it was a little too much, but the reverse has happened and we've now killed Gus Johnson. I don't know if you could play that clip, but he was dead on Saturday.

The big noon kickoff has killed Gus Johnson.

He has no life left to him.

Can you play the audio of the scoop and score?

I don't know if you can.

Yeah, play it.

Sometimes it's just too early in the day to get screamed at by the announcer.

But this was a scoop and score.

It was literally Ohio State scored a touchdown. I know that the game was over and they were killing Purdue, but it was insane.
Oh, this is the other one. He had two.
This is another touchdown. This is the first quarter.
Howard sets up backside, looks, dumps it down, has a wide open receiver, G Scott. Touchdown.
Buckeye. He's trying to find the scoop and score.
He's trying not to link up the baby. The scoop and score was even worse.
It was so bad. Because he just, yeah, he's got no life left to him.
All right, here's the scoop and score. First down to the 25 for Purdue.
And a fumble on the play.

Ohio State is there.

They pick it up and run it in for a touchdown.

Jack Sawyer.

People aren't watching this.

They're obviously only listening.

We're not going to be able to put the video in.

That was a – I know the Ohio State was up 31-0.

That was a fumble recovery for a touchdown.

It sounds like either a man that has the under in that game

or a guy that's doing a crossword puzzle as he's doing the play-by-play for it but big noon kickoff has killed uh gus johnson but we have it uh we actually have the big game travis hunter is playing big noon kickoff i believe this week in colorado against utah boys it's getting very serious because miami losing cam ward uh i don't want to say eliminated from the heisman but that's a big blow. Well, Cam Ward, his case for being the Heisman winner was that he was able to bounce back from any sort of deficit and just will his team to victory.
And then when you don't do that, when the luck runs out, then kind of all the wind gets taken out of those sails. Yeah.
And then we have Dylan Gabriel, who's still lurking, and Ashton Gent genti is still lurking colorado has to win out they have to win out and get to the big 12 championship because i think that if you have a championship saturday and dylan gabriel and ashton genti and cam ward are all playing and travis hunter isn't i think we might be fucked that might be a problem i i'm actually going to stand up for joe klatt right now joe klatt so i'm going to be on joe klatt's side okay because he he brought up a very interesting point about travis hunter when we talk about his snap count yeah and i forget how many snaps he played this weekend it was i know he scored a touchdown in his 100th snap okay so that was around the third quarter or so so joe klatt pointed out that travis hunter actually played 170 snaps when you factor in the penalty penalties yeah he actually played those plays they happened yeah whether you like it or not that that existed in the time space continuum uh but just because there was a flag on the play they don't count in the official stat sheet at the end of the day 170 snaps insane the interception that he had was incredible incredible that should have counted should have counted you just got to keep playing that interception over and over. That's his Heisman moment.
That's his Heisman moment. Maybe the first player to ever have a Heisman moment that didn't count.
That didn't count, yeah. So that will be a big game.
Colorado, I'm very nervous about the Kansas game. Kansas is playing a lot better.
They're starting to cause chaos in the Big 12. We also have, so the SEC, credit to Ole Miss,

incredible performance against Georgia.

They Georgia'd Georgia.

Their defensive line was so good,

and their defense as a whole was so good.

You thought, like, the way that game started,

it was sack, sack, fumble for Jackson Dart,

and he got hurt.

And you're like, oh, here we go. And then the Georgia scores on, on like the third play.
Here we go. This is going to be a blowout.
Their defense just kept them in that game, and Jackson Dart obviously gutted it out. Their backup two came in and had a really nice drive.
Ole Miss is for real, for real. And we now have an SEC where there's three teams that are one loss teams and then there's another what five teams that have two losses and the craziest thing about the SEC this is how deep the SEC is South Carolina who has three losses in the conference I would take them over probably three or four of the teams that are that only have two losses definitely in him I'd take him over A&M.
I'd take them over Mizzou. I'd take them over LSU because they should have won that game.
They got screwed. And remember, they almost beat Alabama.
They were in that game. They didn't beat them, but they were in that game.
So that's how deep the SEC is, and we are headed for a collision course where if Tennessee loses to Georgia,

we're going to have a whole mess everywhere.

Yeah, doomsday.

Yeah.

It's basically Tennessee losing to Georgia and Texas getting upset by Arkansas,

and it will be headed careening towards doomsday.

Yeah, there's going to be some wild shit that plays out in the SEC. I don't know that – obviously Ole Miss' defense played very well,

but this is kind of a running theme with Georgia

where their offense is not as good as it has been. No, Carson Beck is not good.
They don't have the run game going. The offensive line doesn't look great.
Carson Beck looks weird and also is not that great this year. Yeah.
Ole Miss, yeah, it's a big win for them. Huge.
It's the one that Lane couldn't get, and he got it. The university has never had wins like this.
Yeah, and I think they won one time against a top three opponent or something like that. It's been a very long time.
Oh, actually, no, I know what it was. It was our guy, Chad Kelly, first Alabama in 2014 or 15 or somewhere.
Also, best wishes to Swag Kelly. Yes.
Had a brutal injury in the Grey Cup semifinals. He was holding his own leg together with his hands.
Really bad. That was tough.
Really, really bad. It was tough to see.
Really, really bad. So the other SEC big matchup, LSU's out.
Brian Kelly, he's just such a loser. He's such a loser.
Did you see the clip of him complaining to the refs about alabama blitzing eight with like 15 seconds left lsu had their whole starters in they were trying to score a touchdown and i can't believe you blitz i can't believe you complained to the refs about that he's just a loser loser loser and it's just so perfect that notre dame is going to go to the playoff and lsu is not and like i wish they would just get rid of brian kelly because i want to root for lsu again i can't stand the guy and jalen milrow is the most electric i mean he was just so so every single time he he gets into open space and he does that like running sideways thing i don't know how the angles work you're just dead to rights if if he's got full steam. Who could have ever seen this coming, that a team was going to try to beat LSU by having their quarterback run a lot on him? Yeah.
Brian Kelly didn't see that coming. Brian Kelly did not see that coming.
And the fake Mike on the sidelines was a disaster. Also, I think that might be an indictment on Brian Kelly.
Yeah. Because Brian Kelly, you have to be smarter than that and stand up for yourself a little bit when it comes to endangering students to not look the other way when they're bringing a fucking live tiger onto the sidelines that's facts just for your own brand you have to be like bad idea we're not gonna do that again it was a depressing fake mike he was he was all doped up on quaaludes passed out in a uh glass, like i don't know if that was a cage omar bradley was like yeah it was omar bradley it was not mike the tiger's name was omar bradley and it came from a tiger dealer who has had omar bradley escape twice from his cage and brian kelly was like fuck it okay yeah that sounds safe enough we'll put him on the sideline bad bad omens you think.
You think Coach O would ever allow a fake Mike to be brought into the same? Mike the Tiger lives, I think, like 200 feet from the stadium. Correct.
And you're going out of state to outsource a dangerous Tiger with a history of prison breaks, and you're bringing it onto the sidelines. It was insane.
LSU's changed. They're down bad.
I have two other shout-outs I want to give. I want to give drive of the week to Army.
They had a drive against North Texas. 21 plays, 94 yards, 13 minutes and 54 seconds off the clock.
That's almost – I don't know how you could get more. That's classic Army drive.
That's an insane drive. On most of those plays, they pretty much had three fullbacks on the field.
Yeah, yeah. Insane, insane drive.
And then the crazy chaos game of the night that most people probably weren't watching because it's too – Mizzou's still technically in it. Trinkwitz said that after.
He's like, we're still in the playoff picture because they only have two losses. Mizzou versus Oklahoma had – it was – Oklahoma was down seven.
They scored with like a minute and a half left Mizzou gets the ball fumbles the ball Oklahoma picks it up touchdown so now they're up seven with a minute left Mizzou then scores Oklahoma gets the ball with 30 seconds left they fumble and Mizzou gets a touchdown off the fumble so he had two scooping scores in the last two minutes to basically swing the game. Both teams were down seven, and then Mizzou ended up winning by seven.
Yeah, I thought the crazy game of the night, though, was BYU-Utah. That was, yes, that was crazy.
Because Utah, they won the game. Utah was just punishing them.
Yeah. And BYU in the fourth quarter comes back.
There's a lot of talk about the, was it defensive holding? It was holding on the outside, yeah. And the camera angle that we have is bad.
You can't see anything. It's also holding.
But if you're not a fan of BYU, it gives you an opportunity to be like, this is bullshit, that clearly wasn't a hold because the camera angle is on the moon. But then you find out later that obviously there are fans in the stands that are taping it themselves that have a better angle.
I think it probably was a hold. Yeah, I think so too.
I think there was a lot of contact there. But it was close enough where there was a ton of controversy at the end of it.
And Utah felt like they had that in the bag. And that was just a crazy ending to it.
I really enjoyed Terry McCauleyy uh rules official maybe the most dunked on guy ever after uh this happened because he he said uh i'm gonna see if i can find it he someone basically he basically was like it's a hold it's always a hold that's the correct call uh you know yeah like the end of story and someone he said i've looked at every pass play in the entire game, you know, yeah, like the end of story. And someone, he said, I've looked at every pass play in the entire game, every complete route on the all 22, nothing even remotely close to defensive holding occurred against either team because Utah fans are like, you can't call that now.
You know, like it hasn't been called all night. And then a guy said, first of all, thanks for the retweet.
Second, I find it hard to believe that you found the all 22 footage those are under tight lock and key in any program third you clearly didn't examine the game

definitely not in an hour uh dbs and wide receivers are physical all night quit lying and terry

mccauley just said i have access to every camera angle of every game in college football within

minutes of each play that's such a and he also was like it do you realize that a football game

takes there's like 13 minutes of action and the all 22 has run pass split up he's like it it

Thank you. And he also was like, do you realize that a football game takes, there's like 13 minutes of action, and the All-22 has run, pass, split up.
He's like, it takes me 20 minutes to watch every pass. So he doesn't watch the commercials? Is that what you're saying? No, he has the All-22.
Yeah, All-22. Because he still is the, I think he's replay guy for NBC.
Yeah, so. Just people being like, there's no way you could have watched it.
He's like, I literally watched it all. I need my replay officials and my rules experts to be Italian.
Call me old school. Yeah.
But I like a good Dean Blandino. I like a Gene Steratore.
Yeah. I like those kind of guys.
Yeah. Terry McCauley seems a little too Irish to me to get it right.
But he... Mike Pereira.
You got to have an Italian. Yeah.
Memes is also talking back here about a timeout that they called.

No. What was that?

Utah Stadium was too loud. Oh.

So BYU snaps it in the

end zone. They have

a clear sack on them. Would have been a safety

game over. Refs blow

it dead. There was an inadvertent

timeout that Utah was too

loud and the refs got together and called a timeout.

Oh, that's bullshit. That is bullshit.
Okay. I also had Utah Moneyline and I went to sleep thinking it was over.
Okay, so that is bullshit. That is bullshit.
Alright, justice for Utah. BYU's going to lose a game.
I'll say it right now. I'm going to predict it.
Not a crazy prediction. They might lose two games down the stretch.
I'm going to pull up their schedule real quick. Isn't Utah, that's the school that has the nuclear reactor on campus where a couple years ago after a bad loss, a student said that they were going to go blow it up.
They were going to detonate it. That's a good fan base.
That's right. BYU has Kansas, who's playing really good ball right now at Arizona State who's also playing really good ball and Houston who might be the turnaround team of the year and the fact that they were like the worst team possible in September and now they are very very frisky they're gonna lose at least one game so I it's been a great story but BYU has been doing this living you know very very dangerously for a while man uh okay anything else I mean the rankings they're going to come out with the range we're taping this in in the uh afternoon but there's nothing that can surprise me I do think they should put more credit on SMU that's my big thing uh and I don't know I mean we'll see what the SEC still has to work itself out because you have Tennessee, Georgia coming up.
You have Texas A&M, Texas coming up. There's big games.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee was able to beat Georgia. Yeah.
Because Tennessee, they're not a great team. I just don't know about it.
But Georgia's not a great team either. Georgia's offense is not that good.
Tennessee's defense is pretty good. Yeah.
No, Tennessee's defense is good. I just don't worry about Nico in a road environment.
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Henry. My hot seat is hopefully Jake Paul.
Oh, okay. He's fighting Mike Tyson this weekend.
I think on Friday. I don't really care about it.
I'm not going to watch it, but they have a Netflix show. I haven't watched that either, but I saw the clip where it was like a vintage Mike Tyson clip where it's him watching TV and Jake Paul is doing a press conference and he's like, sorry, Mike, I'm going to beat your ass or whatever.
And it's Mike Tyson. He's like, he's a, he's a natural.
He's a man-made killer. I forget exactly.
Natural born killer. No, he's like, he's a man-made killer.
Like he's a media decided he was a killer. He's like, I'm a natural born killer.

Oh, I love that.

That's the difference.

It literally gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.

It's vintage Mike Tyson, and I feel like these fights are always disappointing.

And this one, I still feel like it will be.

But that quote got me fired up, and I am hoping I go on social media and see him knock him the fuck out.

Our good friend Tom Franelli pointed out something to me via text last night, and it didn't dawn on me until he said that. This very well could just be Billy versus Canseco.
Yeah, so to me, the whole buildup to this feels like this is boomer porn, where you see... Watch this clip.
Can we pull up the clip? Because think about it this way. You've got Mike Tyson, who's a legend, and a lot of older people grew up watching, be like, this man can kill anybody, which at the time is 100% true.
And then they naturally grow to hate the Paul brothers because they're emblematic of everything that millennials and Gen Zers are doing. And so you're like, my guy that I've loved is going to knock the fuck out of this young little pissant.
And you have all this hope leading up to it to watch the younger generation get their comeuppance. And at the end of the day, the older generation is also still very old and probably out of shape and probably not able to punch nearly as hard as they could.
And it's just going to be very, very disappointing to anybody over the age of like 40. It will be super disappointing.
This clip is probably propaganda, but it will sell a lot of fights. But it is.
It's Billy versus Canseco, where it's like the older guy. Everyone's like, holy shit, he's going to demolish him.
This is going to be like a bloodbath. How is this young guy even taking this fight? And the older guy will most likely get hurt like 30 seconds in.
Yeah. Billy did win, though.
It's true. Go ahead.
Final thing, I presume that Mike Tyson is watching this right now. Is there anything you want to say to him? Mike, I love you, but this is my sport now.
It's an honor to get in the ring with you. I'm so, so honored you're a legend, but I'm going to take your throne, brother.

There's a fundamental difference between me and Jake.

He's a manufactured killer.

Television and paper made him a killer.

He's manufactured.

I'm a natural born killer.

That's the difference.

That's a great clip.

The only problem I have is it's Jake Paul saying, I'm going to take your throne, Mike. Mike hasn't had the throne for 20 years.
Yeah. More than 20 years.
Like, been 30 years. What's the headgear? I don't know.
Again, like, I'm not even going to watch this fight. I just, and I don't think, I think it's going to be Billy versus Canseco.
But that clip, it will be like, that will be on a rap song. That song that will be a great rap song like that is a great quote of just like it it does give you goosebumps yeah but he should have called out tyson fury yeah no he's not he's a natural born killer he was a natural born killer like he's a natural born killer he's just old he did mike tyson did say something like i iron mike has come back and i i can't control him when he comes back which that's also scary for other reasons.
Okay, good hot seat. And then my cool throne are Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Yeah. Dana.
Yeah. Dana Holgerson will serve as the Nebraska Offensive Coordinator versus USC, I think, for the rest of the season.
Yeah, this is bullshit because Wisconsin plays him next week. Oh, no.
Yeah. I mean, he's going to fix their offense.
No doubt. No doubt about it.
I love it. I love it.
Our guy Dana. Your best friend.
My best friend. I'm happy for him.
Yeah. You had another cool zone? Yeah.
PMT documentary episode two drops Wednesday night. Okay.
So today. Yeah.
Tonight. Tonight.
This is how we promo. We finally figured out the promo.
The rise and fall of Barstow Vantar. Love it.
Well, no, I don't love it. Actually, no, I do love it.
Episode one was very, very good. Yeah, this one's better.
You know what? I love it because I would we would have this podcast wouldn't be creating towards year nine if we had kept that show. There's more.
There's more. There's more juicy stuff to this more.
I think the episode one was good, but it was all relatively known. There's there's more.
There relatively known. There's more details with this one.
Yeah, that was the best thing that's ever happened to us. By far.
It sucked in the moment. It was a very bad feeling when it happened.
But looking back on it, god damn, I'm so happy I didn't have to work. I just remember when it got canceled, I got so high that I got trapped in a Call of Duty commercial.
It was like one of those when the new Call of Duty came out, and they did the three-minute commercials, and I was so high sitting on my couch trying to numb away being canceled, and the commercial got two minutes in. I was like, did I change the channel? Where the fuck am I right now? I remember what happened right after it was canceled.
You know how we dealt with our misery? You guys are spoiling on the doc. Oh, okay.
All right. in to find out that was smart did i say the call do anything oh shit my bad did i say where we went right afterwards yeah all right yeah yeah all right tune in the dock no spoilers good job but a very on brand uh pft your hot seat cool to run uh my hot seat is uh cleanliness okay did you see the story about Syracuse head coach? Yes.
So Syracuse head coach, Fran Brown, says that after losses, he doesn't allow himself to shower because only winners get soap. Or excuse me, yeah, winners get washed, winners get soap.
I like that. Afterwards, he doesn't feel that he's entitled to shower because he doesn't deserve it after losing.
Basically saying you get a piece of steel wool and you can spit on yourself and that's the only way that you can wash. I like this.
I like this sentiment. I kind of disagree, though.
Shouldn't you wash off a loss and keep the mojo going for a win? Don't ever change. What about the stink of losing? Yeah, you want to wash it off.
You want to get that off? That doesn't motivate you? No, I want to don't ever change what about the stink of losing yeah you want to wash it off you want to get that off that doesn't motivate you no i want to keep the i want to keep the win and never change anything but if you were dirty wouldn't you be more motivated to win so that you can shower no you maybe no i guess but i i would it's like a lucky pair of underwear i want to keep wearing it. You keep going until being clean, smelling good is the mark of a loser? Yeah, right.
A winner is just rolling through it. Your must should take over.
He should try it both ways. Yeah, he probably has.
I remember there was a team, I think it was Derek Dooley, when he coached at Tennessee, and they were on a losing streak, and he blamed it on the lack of shower discipline on his players. So at practice, he he had them gather around and he had to show them how to wash their ass with a loofah here's where you put the soap here's how you here are the hot zones that you have to get okay that's that's a mark of a loser head coach right there is when he's coaching showering yes but i still appreciate it from a football guy mentality yeah no i like that part to be like you should test it both ways is all i'm saying but also for i don't know if he extends that to the team or if it's that's just for himself if it's for himself i love it he's like i won't allow myself to shower what happens if he loses before like a 10-day layoff over christmas just you have a smelly christmas that's bad yeah yeah and then uh my cool throne is stew finer our good friend Feiner.
Tonight, Wednesday in Chicago at the Laugh Factory,

Stu is doing a stand-up routine about his life.

Oh, no.

I'm lucky enough to host it.

Nick's going to be there.

Mook's going to be there.

This is a 12-hour show.

Chris Bader.

They're taping it for a special.

Oh, he's doing a special?

Yeah, Stu Feiner's doing a special tonight.

Yeah, so he's going to do a stand-up routine about his

life i think the rest of us we might roast stew with our time on stage um but yeah it's gonna be a five-hour show yeah it's never ending we'll see it's gonna be a double double uh vhs tickets are on sale right now if you want to go to the stew finder there's an intermission and everything like that i don't know i don't know there has to be listen nobody can control what stew does no What you just described sounds like

He's going to be in sixth grade one hour in. Yeah.
Yeah. That's definitely a possibility.
Yeah. But I'm excited about it.
I'm excited to be there. That will be fun.
All right. My hot seat is cheap wedding guests.
Did you guys see there was a viral post the other day? A woman said, we married yesterday we spent sixty thousand dollars on our wedding with a guest count of 270 we worked our butts off and pushed so many bills rent etc only taking out a loan of four thousand dollars from my mom and uh we received three thousand dollars in cash and checks total from cards we're freaking out we thought we'd get more and the lowest card amount was ten dollars and this woman is basically like we expected a lot more for all of our guests and now we're fucked i think that you need to just be friends with richer people i also think what would what would your math tell you 270 well the only thing that i i'd ask is if they had a registry if they had a

registry with like pots and pans they fucked themselves they should have just been like registry is cash fund yeah right uh i would have i would expect for 270 people uh i'm trying to do the math. There are probably a lot of

couples.

I'm going to say I would expect

at least $10,000.

At least. $100 is what you...
Like, $100 is typical, you know, depending on where you are in life. $100, I feel like, is the minimum you give at a wedding.
Is that not right? I don't know because the registry plays such an important part in it with a registry even if that's 27 you know if the average gift on the registry is between 50 and 150 bucks you get people that spend 100 bucks on a gift and then they don't necessarily put up nearly as much as they would have that's what i'm saying the registry is all if there was a registry then they fucked themselves if you're counting on this wedding to fund your honeymoon then you just make a honeymoon fund instead of doing a registry at all. Yeah.
I'm saying minimums too. Even when I didn't have money, it would be like 300, 500.
If it's a close friend, that's what you do. Minimum is 100.
You got to pay for your meal and the drinks. That's kind of what you do.
$10 is the big... I would fucking send that back to the person.
Also is too big for a wedding yeah well but they probably were like we're gonna cash in yeah like that minimum they should have had 10 grand i actually think that's crazy you gotta get rich your friends that's or these people are just shitty people ten dollars what do you give max 100 a person no I give more than that. Yeah.
Look at that. Baller.
$100 a person is like very low. That's what I'm saying.
That's minimum. You're getting a full meal, a band, a full bar.
Maybe it was cash bar. Cash bar, you give nothing.
That's a good point. Yeah.
Cash bar, you get nothing. Destination wedding? Maybe maybe it could have been a destination i do like to go when i go to weddings i like to bring uh like a bunch of cash and not have signed the card yet and i'll i'll i'll my gift will be based on the time i had you put the stack of cash on the table yeah and you start removing it can fluctuate based on the playlist bad dj yeah how was? Was there multiple? What were the hors d'oeuvres like? It's basically based off the hors d'oeuvres.
A lot of times these registries have the thing that you can just give money directly to there. It's like a Venmo.
So there's no even excuse because you can just be like, oh shit, I forgot to get cash. Oh, whatever.
I'll just go onto the website, donate there, and just write right on the card yeah gift isn't gift isn't on the website this is insane uh and then my cool throne is uh the mba cup because it's back and we have an awesome promo going with draft kings we're going to start doing our mba cup picks so uh people will be listening to this obviously the games happen but going forward we're going to release it on all the socials on Tuesdays so next week look out for our picks on Tuesdays you'll actually if you're listening to this right now you can go and look at our picks that we've already made on our socials and we'll look like idiots but DraftKings has a great promo on the NBA Cup so check it out and we're going to be getting in on the NBA Cup this We're battling for the NBA Cup Cup. We have the NBA Cup Cup here in the studio.
Yeah, we do. It's sitting right over there.
So we're going to have some fun with that, and hopefully... No, we'll be bad.
I'll be taking the Sixers plus three against the Knicks tonight, which is the biggest loser on the board. I was going to take the Sixers' money line.
But that's fine.

You can take them against the spread.

Love the NBA Cup.

I'll take the points for sure.

Love the NBA Cup.

Oh, I'm going to take – oh, I know it.

This will be very stupid when you're listening to this.

I'm just going to take every single Klay Thompson over.

First time back in Golden State.

Yep.

He's going to go nuts.

Nuts. Okay.
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And now here's Julius Randle. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest in studio, three-time NBA All-Star, two-time first team? I wish.
How many times first team? You hype me up, though, please. All right, three-time All-Star.
He's been in one of the all-NBA teams at least twice. Twice.
Yeah, it doesn't matter which one. It is Julius Randle from the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Does that sound weird saying it? Because it's still new, right? It's still very new. Yeah.
So let's start with that. How's the first month and a half that you've been on the Timberwolves and feeling everything out? And yeah, I mean, it's got to be weird.
Yeah. It's definitely new, especially when you've been somewhere for five years.
I was at a mall with my wife and a lady comes up to me and she's like, you must play basketball. Who do you play for? And I'm like, I'm Timberwolves.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was one of those situations.
But it's been great, man. I'm loving it.
Yeah. Honestly.
Yeah. I mean, you got traded right before the season.
Is that especially weird, not having a training camp and everything with your new team you're just like all right now I'm on this team yeah man because it's uh like at that point you think like if anything happens it'll be during the year you know right before the trade deadline so you know for it to happen like uh two days before whatever training camp was was kind of crazy because you know it it was more – the basketball part is easy, but like adjusting and moving a family. Like my son had just started school.
He was in school for a little bit. So, like that was probably like the hardest part, just getting adjusted.
But, you know, it's cool. Now we're good.
Yeah. How long did it take you to get used to the business of the NBA and understand that sometimes things happen to you not because it's like them maybe you still feel like upset if you get traded you're like man I don't feel like they really appreciate me if they're willing to trade me away but I feel like a lot of players that have been in your position at some point you you kind of figure out that it's not personal yeah uh I got used to it I mean pretty quickly.
I think maybe my first wake-up call was with the Lakers. Yeah.
And, you know, LeBron was coming to town. I was like, well, LeBron's coming, so.
Yeah. You know, you got to, you know, figure it out, you know, and that's how I ended up in New Orleans for a year.
But, I mean, that was probably like my first time. And then from then on, it's just been like, you know, the business is – it is what it is.
And you kind of got to, you know, roll with it and adjust. I think you were also unlucky your first time because they had to, like, renounce you.
They had to use the word renounce. Nobody likes to be renounced.
Yeah. That's a fucked up way to put it.
Yeah. I mean, to be honest,, like I asked for that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Cause I, please renounce me. Yeah.
Cause I was, uh, it was a situation where I was young in my

career and, you know, um, you know, it was coming off a pretty decent year, uh, with the Lakers and

I just kind of wanted to continue to grow. Uh, so, you know, the bus family, I had a great

relationship with them and, you know, it helped me get to, you know, a good situation with that. Yeah, I think in Minnesota it's also a compliment.
Like, they wanted you. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, especially, you know, in these situations, you know, I'm pretty secure in who I am as a player, you know, at this point in my career.
You know, the shock, obviously it was a shock at um, just with everything. But from like day one, like the moment that I got traded, I already knew Finchie because I played for him in New Orleans.
So from a basketball standpoint, like when it happened, I'm like, well, I really want to play for Finchie. Like I'm, I'm excited about that.
You know what I mean? But like the organization, like Tim like, Tim, Matt, and Dale, like, A-Rod, like, all those guys, like, called me and were just telling me how excited they were for me to be there. You know, how much they wanted me.
You know, how long they were working on a trade. All those different type of things.
And, you know, after I got over the initial shock, it was like, all right, man, I'm somewhere where I want it. I'm wanted, you know, appreciating the value.
So, like, you know, it just took a little bit to, like, change my perspective and look at it differently. But once I was able to do that, like, I felt extremely comfortable just being there.
Was there part of you like, oh, I get out of Tibbsibbs practices now i mean there has to have been

and i i'm i'm a tibbs guy but everyone says the practices are brutal yeah you know what's funny man uh i'm like we have these conversations like all the time like in the locker room and i'm like i'm like ant man what kind of practice is gonna be today and he's like man we just might watch film and I'm like,

word.

Okay.

I get excited.

You know what I mean?

I get a little pep in my stuff. So, you know what I mean? You're somewhere for such a long time.
And I appreciate Tibbs. Tibbs is like a coach that's going to have you every game super prepared.
You're not going to miss a beat on anything that's going to go on. But also, you know, here, like, it's different.
Like, Fitch has us prepared, but we're also, like, empowered as players to, you know, be adults. Yeah.
To be professional and, you know, come in every day, do our job. And, you know, he trusts us with that responsibility.
So, like, it's very empowering as a player. And it feels like everyone who has played for Tibbs, like they'll be like, yeah, the practices are brutal.
He grinds you hard, but he also brings the most out of you. Cause like you had your, your best year, you know, whatever it is, probably his second year, I think in New York, like that's in like, we've had Joe Kim no on here.
He's like, yeah, if I Tibbs was a real motherfucker, but like, if I didn't have them, I wouldn't have gotten the best out of my ability. Yeah, I mean, like, at that point in my career, like, Tibbs was the perfect coach for me.
You know what I mean? He got the most out of me. He pushed me.
You know, he gave me ample opportunity, you know, to grow as a player. So, like, I appreciate him for what he was and, you know, what he meant to my career during that time.
Yeah. Did you ever think about going back to school and getting a master's degree from Villanova so that you could fit in? Hell no.
You fit in with all the guys? Absolutely not. I think I chose the right Wildcat.
Yeah. Yeah.
So what did Dante say to Tibbs? You know, I'll just – I'll leave that to Tay. Okay, okay.
I'll let Tay. We'll have to have him on just to tell us what he said.
Yeah, we'll see. That was fun for a preseason game.
It was a lot of energy. It was a lot of energy.
It was a lot going on that night. Yeah, yeah.
I'll say that, yeah, for sure. Yeah, so your time in Kentucky, Cal cal like that was when kentucky was rolling you guys go to the championship game i'm uh i went to wisconsin so i was actually sitting like you guys i was sitting like maybe 20 feet from what was it one of the harrisons hit that three you know that destroyed me uh was there ever a moment during that game you're like we can't lose to these white guys? You know.
I feel like that happens. You know what's crazy is, like, that was, like, once we got through Wisconsin, I was like, oh, we got it.
Yeah, you didn't. Exactly.
Because I'm like, man, like, Wisconsin was our hardest game of the tournament by far. Like, I'm like, bro, these dudes used 35 seconds of every single shot clock.
Yep, yep. Like, super disciplined.
Like, they're not going to beat themselves. Like, so it was like one of those games.
And, like, it was like one of those games, too. Like, the whole time it was like we never felt like we had any momentum.
Yeah. And so, obviously, Aaron hit that shot.
And then, like, once we did that, we're like, man, like, we got this. Like, UConn.
UConn, we're thinking, no disrespect to them, but we're like, man, this is ours. And like you said, it wasn't.
Yeah, it wasn't. So what kind of coach was Cal? Because I feel like he gets a, not a bad rap, but he obviously, there's a lot of times, especially his end of Kentucky, where it's like they weren't winning as much in the tournament and he was talking about his draft picks and everyone's making jokes but like he seems like a guy who every player loves yeah it's funny because it doesn't matter like who like I remember when I first got to Kentucky um and Demarcus and like AD and those guys they came back and they were like man's crazy.
Like, you know, I should have been a number one pick. Like, just messing with me.
I should have been a number one pick. Cal held me back.
Cal held me back, man. Like, da-da-da-da-da, right? And, like, we always give him a hard time.
And it doesn't matter if it's him or, like, I'm talking to Rob, who was just there last year. And we're like, man, we hated Cal when we were at Kentucky.
Coached us hard. He's a tough coach.
He's going to be on your ass. And he's one of those type of dudes.
And then everybody has the same story. When you leave, you love Cal.
Everybody loves Cal. And, man, Cal just forget the coaching, just as the culture.
Just, like, as a human being and, like, who he is to his core. Like, he's done things for me and my family after I've left Kentucky that, like, will be good with me forever.
Yeah. I'll do anything for Cal.
Yeah. You know what I mean? And, like, after I got traded, he was one of the first people that called me.
Yeah. To check in on me and see how I'm feeling.
Like, you know, So he's that type of person that really cares about the person. Yeah.
It also is cool. I feel like Kentucky is one of those schools because they don't have an NBA team in Kentucky.
All Kentucky fans root for Kentucky players for the rest of their career, like in the NBA. They're all – do you notice that? Will you go and see random arenas, like, cheering you on? Yeah, absolutely.
It was – well, I just saw a Kentucky fan somewhere in Randall. Yeah.
Like, maybe in Minnesota. I don't know where I saw them.
But, like, I'll see them, like, on vacation. Like, if I'm on vacation somewhere.
And they're like, man, we – Big Blue Nation. Like, they'll say that, like, Big Blue Nation or whatever it is.
And I And I'm like, you know what I mean? So like you're really tied in forever when it comes to Kentucky. Yeah.
What was the sales pitch like to get you to go there? Was Cal like, I will make you rich beyond your life. Yeah.
And then you'll get drafted to the NBA and make more money. Yeah.
There you go. No.

I mean, to be honest,

it was two things.

It was like,

I want to win,

you know,

because for me,

the national championship was in Dallas.

It was in my hometown.

So it was that.

And then it was like,

you're going to be out of here

in eight months.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean, like,

I'm not going to keep you here

like type thing.

So like,

it was those two things. And then like, just visiting, I'm a basketball guy, like, I'm not going to keep you here, like, type thing.
So, like, it was those two things. And then, like, just visiting.
I'm a basketball guy, like, you know, to my core and my heart. And, like, visiting.
Like, it was probably only one other place that I really visited. And I was like, man, this place is, like, crazy, which was Kansas.
Like, what was it? What's the arena? Yeah, Fog Island. Fog Island.
Yeah, yeah. Like it is, like, that arena was crazy.
And, like, Kentucky, I was like, man, I get to play in front of 20,000 every single night. Yeah.
There's nothing better than that. So, obviously, going to Kentucky, you're, like, a five-star recruit coming out of high school.
What was the point growing up that you're like, oh, shit, I'm different than everyone else? Like, I'm so much better than everyone else. Like 11 years old.
That's awesome. Just dominating everyone at 11? Yeah, I think.
What was your stat lines at 11? I mean, it was my mom, to be honest, because my mom, she, like, for every, like, growing up, I was always bigger than everybody. She always made me play, like, a grade up, two grades up, three grades up.
So, like, I'm playing against older kids. And I'm like, I'm okay, but I'm not, like, that good.
And then I played my first grade. My first time I played, my grade was, like, 10, 11 years old.
And I was like, what the hell? It's on easy mode. I was like, man, this is like the easiest day ever.
Like I couldn't believe it. Like I was bigger, faster, stronger than everybody, but I was just more skilled because I was playing up in advance.
So it was like, that was like an aha moment. I just kind of never looked back from there.
What was your best high school game? Do you remember like one you put in an insane amount of points? I just love thinking about because anyone who's obviously in the NBA they've just been so much better than everyone for such a long time. It's got to be the best feeling.
I play, I mean my high school, we were one of the best teams in the country. During my time there, I had like 15, like three quarters or something like that.

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

Was it fun?

Like 20 shots.

Yeah.

It's got to be the most fun.

Yeah.

It was a lot.

Always.

High school was probably like the most fun ever for basketball.

Dominating everyone.

Yeah.

I read a story that when you were playing AAU, I don't know if you were 11 or 12, but your team was so good that you guys flew private. I don't know if it was because we were so good, but yeah, we did.
That was the first time I played my grade, though. Yeah.
So it was like a funny, basically how the story was, it's like I played up until this team called the Texas Titans started. The guy, shout out to the Trout family.
Amazing, amazing family that took care of a lot of people. The dad, he was starting a team for his son.
Dad was a billionaire, starting a team for his son. Basically, his son was my age.
He had two sons. He had one my age and one, like, maybe two years younger than me or whatever.
And he was basically starting a team for his son. And, you know, people who played on the team, we were flying like the Mavericks playing growing up as kids, you know.
But the bigger thing was, like, in AAU, was in AAU, you had to pay for everything and you're out of pocket for everything. So my mom being a single parent, I used to watch her struggle to take me to tournaments across the country and drive and all that different type of stuff.
And he took care of everything. So he took care of – obviously but, like, hotels, like, parents, everything was there.
So it was just like I'm dominating my age group and I'm flying everywhere. You know what I mean? Like, it was the craziest experience of my life.
That does sound like the best. Yeah, and then you have to – you go to high school.
I wish I was high school. That was a different team from the AAU team, right? Yeah.
So you have to play for your high school team. You don't fly anywhere.
Yeah. I mean, we flew, but we flew American Airlines.
We're spirited. Actually, it might have been Southwest, but yeah, it was a different kind of travel for sure.
Yeah. But I mean, at the end of the day, the fact that your travel was taken care of, it allowed a lot of people to play against competition that they wouldn't get to play against otherwise, right? It was crazy, man.
It was like I couldn't – I don't even really know how to explain it. But as a kid, it was insane.
It was the most fun time of my life. all right, even, like, when the summer would end, like, AAU season would be over with and school would start and, like, you know, basketball season probably wouldn't start again until November or December.
Like, that's all you look forward to because, like, I'm playing with my best friends. We're traveling across the country like rock stars, like, everywhere.
You know what I mean? Playing against the best teams, killing, like, you know, winning tournaments all over the country like rock stars everywhere you know i mean playing against the best teams killing like you know winning tournaments all over the country like exposure all this different type of stuff visiting different cities as a kid like it's it was insane yeah you know what i mean so it was just like my experience growing up um you know compared to what i was used to like and And then to get that experience, like, man, it was like, you know, exposure is everything. Opportunity is everything.
And for me to be able to, like, see that at such a young age, that's why, like, I bring my son, my oldest son, like, I've always brought him with me, like, everywhere to, like, games and stuff because it's, like, the exposure just to be able to see like what's possible yeah it was like huge for me yeah you know i mean so like to see that at a young age it was like even like then like we used to go to he had like four seats at the mavericks games and like he used to bring us to the mavericks games and we're like kids sitting courtside and mavericks games and like kobe was my favorite player yeah so like i got to see to see Kobe at a young age. And just to see that, it was like seeing Jesus.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was crazy.
And I think that had a lot to do with my growth and where I am today. Visualizing it.
Yeah. That's huge.
So you mentioned Kobe. You get drafted by the lakers kobe's at the end of his career does is he still psycho kobe in terms of his workouts and everything is there a story yeah like we've we've heard them all but what was the one where you're like oh man this guy is different um i would just say like me going to his, like he would work out obviously crazy early, like five o'clock in the morning or whatever it is, six o'clock.
And just like I probably told the story before, but just like I've never been to a workout where I go first off at six o'clock, five o'clock in the morning and we do defense for two hours. So you don't even dribble a basketball? We would have days where we would not dribble a basketball.
Oh, my God. It's like Hoosiers.
Yeah. Two hours, two and a half hours.
And he was so technical. Like, no, you can't slide that way.
Like, you can't move your feet. But literally, you think I'm exaggerating.
We would do defense early in the morning for like two hours. And I'm just like, this dude's insane.
Yeah. He's insane.
And it was just his mentality. It was just different.
Yeah. And that's crazy.
That's the end of his career. That was the end.
Like when he's in his 30s. I couldn't even imagine what he was like at 20, 25.
Yeah. Early 30s.
Like, what was he. Every practice, was it just full on like this is the most important game? No.
Oh, okay. No, he was like – because he was at the end at that point.
His body – and he was injured a lot during that time, so his body wasn't holding up. You know what I mean? So it was like it got to the point like we saw Kobe at practice Kobe at practice.
Like, oh my gosh, like, Kobe's here. Yeah.
That's like, that's why you saw that whole viral clip of him going, like, in on, like, Jeremy Lin and Nick Young when they were fighting the whole practice clip where they were fighting. Yeah.
It was because, like, people were joking. They were like, man, Kobe's here.
Like, we can't, like, believe it like sarcastic. And he just kicked everybody's ass.

Did he make you play him one-on-one?

Yes.

Did you ever beat him?

Absolutely not.

Absolutely.

But that was, like, the thing, too.

It was, like, when I played him, like, one-on-one, and, like, I loved that.

Like, I wanted to compete.

Like, so, like, as a young player, I'm a rookie.

I'm getting there early.

And, you know, I'm thinking I'm, you know, doing what I'm supposed to do as a young player, getting there early. And he was already there, like, working out full sweat.
So, like, I'm walking onto the court, and he's like, Drew, come play one-on-one. And, yeah, like, I thought I was going to get him.
Like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm – and then he just – he flipped the switch, and it was – yeah, it was curtains. Crafty, yeah.
Yeah. That must have been a crazy experience though, going from like watching him courtside when you were a little kid.
It was insane. Are you able to go hard? Are you able to like play as hard as you want to against a guy that you've looked up to for that long? Yeah, absolutely.
It was just like – like it was like one of those moments like, you know, you meet your idol. Not only do you meet your idol, but you're playing on the same team as your idol.
And, you know, it took a while to process, you know what I mean? Because you're just – it's like you watching every single thing he does. Yeah.
This might be a dumb question, but I'm curious whenever I talk to an NBA player to know how you come up with new moves for yourself. Like how you put wrinkles in your game, is it, is it something where you spend most of your time? Or if you're watching like somebody else, you pick up things here and there, or do you have to get in like a creative mindset to figure something out? I think it's like maybe two things.
I think like one, one is like, you have like a game that you do like, or like a, like whatever your go go to is or what you feel comfortable doing. And you just kind of build up off of that.
And then like so like you might add like I always got that from Kobe. Like you don't have to add like 10 things to your game.
Add one or two things. You know what I mean? If it's a you know, you got to step back at a at a pump fake step through to it or whatever it So, like, you have that.
And then, like, it's like little crafty things too. Like one year I added, like, they took it out of the game, but I used to have, like, the off-arm sweep through that I had or, like, now you have to have two hands on it.
You know what I mean? So, like, little crafty things where you learn how to, like, draw fouls or, you know, learn how to just kind of, like, manipulate the defense and stuff like that.

So, like, it's one you add to, like, the base of what you already do

and then others just, like, little crafty things that I might see a player do.

And, like, man, I like that.

Let me try that out.

Yeah.

When did you know that you were awesome at spin moves?

Because that's, like, when I think of Julius Randall, it's like the spin move, you know? When was that? I don't know. I feel like it's always been like.
It's just natural. Yeah.
That's the move. I think it's always been a part of me.
Do you? So I looked up on Pro Basketball Reference. They have all your nicknames.
I want to know how many of these actually people have ever called you. They have Big Jew, King Julius, Don Julio.
Don Julio. Don Julio.
Okay. I didn't know if it was Don Julio because it's Julius.
Orange Julius. Never.
People have called me that, but that's not like a real name. And then Beyblade Beyblade.
Beyblade. Yeah, I think that was like this.
That's because of the spinning. Yeah, yeah.
That's an awesome nickname. I had to look up what Beyblades were.
Yeah. It's like a Japanese animation.
A little fidget spinner, yeah. And they spin around.
That's a great name. Yeah.
That's an awesome nickname. Yeah, I guess.
Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, if you keep spinning. Yelling Big Jew at you, I would just be like, I don't know if I should.
Yeah, that one's a little. Actually, yeah.
Yeah, I got Big Jew. That was a nickname I got when I first got to Minnesota, too.
Okay. Who gave you that? Free.
Okay. Yeah, you don't know.
How is it, like, you obviously saw Anthony Edwards last year in the playoffs and everything. When you get to play with him, he does feel like a guy who just makes everyone better and the confidence that he has.
Is that accurate? Yeah, he's different. Yeah.
He's very different. Obviously, confidence-wise, he got the ultimate belief in himself.
Yeah. He thinks he can do anything out there.
He really looks like he can. Yeah.
You know what I mean? So he got the ultimate confidence and belief in himself, and that's contagious. Yeah.
I saw the other night he scored like 27 in the first. Was that him? Yeah.
In a little bit more. He's like – he goes unconscious out there.
Yeah. When that happens, you're just like, I'm getting out of the way.
Like just get him the ball. It's – yeah, get – find like find a way to get him the ball.
Yeah. Like it's like one of those type of things.
Like when a guy like that gets on the roll, like first off, like going into a game, you want to try to bring that out of him, you know, as much as you can. You know what I mean? So for me, it's like, how can I get him easy looks to really get him going? Yeah.
And then like once he's going like that, man, it's like just keep feeding the high hand because he draws so much attention. It just makes the game easy for everybody.
Yeah. I would get caught watching his dunks if I was on his team.
Yeah, for sure. I forget to get back.
He's shooting that thing. He ain't trying to duck right now.
He's shooting that thing right now. Yeah, yeah.
He's so much fun to watch. He's a lot of fun.
He gets locked in. It's like, can't do it.
Yeah, and I've never seen, like, from an athlete perspective, I've never. It's different playing against him because you only play against him, like, for me, it was, like, once or twice a year.
You know what I mean? But now it's like I see it every night, and I've never seen an athlete like that. Yeah.

Be able to move the way he does, cover ground, get downhill to be able to cut and just maneuver.

He's not like a little guy.

He's a big dude.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? So it's just like for him to move at his size the way he does, it's special.

And he covers a lot of ground.

He has, what, three or four more years of him, and then he's going to the NFL, right? Yeah, he's going to the NFL. Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes.
Oh, no. What's it like being a Cowboys fan? It's bad.
Because we talk about Cowboys fans. You talk about Cowboys? What are you saying about Cowboys fans? Well, we talk so much shit.
Well, actually, no. We had Skip Bayless on.
We had Skip Bayless on, and we also had Dak ranked as the 17th best quarterback in the NFL this year. Accurate.
No, we definitely, I mean, it's fun to shit on the Cowboys, that they're kind of that brand. You know what I mean? It's like the Yankees, it's the Cowboys, the Lakers.
The Knicks. Yeah.
Yeah, the Knicks. So, I mean, are you ever going to win again? Because you're not old enough to remember the Super Bowls.
You know what's crazy? Like, I used to go to Deion's house as a kid. Really? Yeah, I played basketball.
I was on the same basketball team as his son. No way.
Basketball has put me in crazy circles. That's nuts.
Yeah. I mean, we're big Deion fans.
He used to work here, so. Yeah, I used to go to his house all the time.
That's crazy. Bucky, Dion the junior.

Yeah, yeah.

I used to, so like, yeah, you're right.

I'm not old enough, but like my mom, she gives me hell about it because she's like, so what y'all going to do this year?

Wait, well, who's she a fan of?

She's not a fan of anybody.

Oh, she just trolls you.

I love that.

I love that.

I'm a fan of your mom.

So she used to say that all the time.

I'm like, we winning it. We winning it all this year.
What happened? And then it would happen. What would happen is the Cowboys would be the Cowboys.
And she's like, what's going on? You know what I mean? So she would troll me all the time. And now it's to the point where I'm at an age where I'm like, okay, this is what it's like to be a Cowboys fan.
But now I've made my son a Cowboys fan. Oh, no.
Yes. And he lives and dies by every game.
Oh, no. That's cruelty.
And then – That's cruelty. It is.
It is. And then my wife was recording the other day because we were watching.
I don't know who they were playing. And he was like, man, we suck.
I was like, yeah, that's what it feels like. Yeah.
I mean, I have three kids, and they're Bears fans, and I had to teach them what tanking was last year. And that's a real humbling thing to explain to your kid that losing is actually winning.
Yeah. And they repeated it back to me.
I was like, well, only when we're talking about the Bears, not like in life. That's complicated.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like, no, it's good that we lost. It's yeah I don't need I shouldn't teach this lesson did you ever feel like as a Cowboys fan you should go to Duke instead of Kentucky never did you get recruited by Cowboys Duke and Lakers yeah yeah uh I did get recruited by Duke so what I you were like Coach K not for me um I Actually, I was, I probably, I'm not admitting that, but.
No, no, I'm saying.

I hate country.

Go ahead. No, I love Duke.
I love Coach K. Nah.
But it was just like, I wanted to play for Cal. Yeah.
I wanted to go to Kentucky. I wanted to play for Cal.
You know what I mean? So it was like, and Kentucky was like the cool thing. Yeah.
I mean, like I grew up like I think my freshman year, that's when I knew I wanted to go to Kentucky. Yeah.
Seeing John Wall and all those guys and stuff like that, it was like – it was nothing like it. But like being around like Coach K and just like he was coaching an Olympic team and stuff like that.
So it was like – it just – Duke, I didn't feel like I fit like Duke culture. Yeah.
Were you about to say like, I went to Kentucky, big state school, a lot of people there, great student fan base. And then I went to Duke, smaller school.
I visited. Not a lot of cool people to be around from the opposite sex there.
It was, yeah. I met my wife at Kentucky.
Okay. There you go.
So you smart move. Wait.
So when did you start getting recruited by like these big schools at what age? Like my freshman year. That's crazy.
That's got to be kind of like a mind fuck to be like you're, you know, 14 years old and you've got D1, major D1 programs hitting you up. Yeah.
I mean, I really truthfully always wanted to go to Texas, like growing up in Dallas. Yeah.
Like I grew up a Texas football fan, Texas basketball, senior KD. They just like were on like the down side like as I was getting older.
But like I played with a guy, Zach Peters, who was an amazing player.

And he was going to Kansas.

So, like, we already had, like, a bunch of coaches coming in and watching.

And, like, they saw me, and from there it kind of just took off.

Oh, so they would come see him, and they'd be like, wait,

who's that freshman?

Yeah.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I know that when you were recovering from an injury a little bit ago, you spent so much time off your feet that you actually got better at basketball because you were studying. It made you study.
Yeah. You got all that screen time in because you couldn't walk around.
Because I did read that you were forced to work on the mental aspect of the game more because you couldn't do the physical stuff. Yeah.
So what did you improve just by not having to be practicing all the time?

I mean, that's, like, been the great part of, like,

what's been unfortunate the past two or so years, like getting hurt at the end of two years ago and then last year,

you know, dislocating my shoulder,

which last year I was more prepared for than I was the year before but like sometimes you just got to slow down man like to to catch up to improve you know I mean you get so caught and you know the cycle of for me it's like season ends I train you know I mean I don't take much time off to reflect to really you know you know break things down break things down. And for me, it was like once I had like my ankle surgery, it was for me, it was like I can't do anything.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was like, well, how am I going to improve? You know what I mean? Because that's always been my biggest thing is like I take pride in getting better every offseason.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was like, well, I got to figure out out a way to get better you know without physically being able to to go and work out um and for me it was like i've always for like the past like five years really worked on the mental side of things um so it was like i took that up a different level and then like just studying the game you know i mean just it's like like the Kobe, you know, aspect of what he's passed down to me, you know, of just how detailed he was, just how obsessive he was on like improvement.
It was like, all right, well, this is taken from me. Well, how can I, you know, work away around that? And, you know, for me, that was basically what it was.
You know what I mean? So I just broke the game down, studied players that I like. and you know, work away around that.
And, you know, for me, that was basically what it was.

You know what I mean?

So I just broke the game down, studied players that I like,

and, you know, figure out how I can add to my game and get better.

Was it frustrating the playoffs two years ago when you were playing,

like, very banged up and you had a ton of injuries and, you know,

you struggled at times.

Like, was it frustrating having the fans be like, oh,

why is he playing better?

It's like, dude, I have so many injuries right now, and I'm out here battling.

Because that would drive me nuts where I would just complain about my injuries so much that everyone would be like, all right, stop complaining about the injuries.

Credit to you for not doing that.

For me, it's like one of those things.

It's like if you're out there, figure it out type thing.

So it was like it was more frustrating at the end of it where it was like one of those things it's like if you're out there figure it out yeah like type thing so it was like uh it was more frustrating at the end of it where it was like well shit like that sucked like we didn't win and i'm like banged up like you know what i mean so it was like but like i think for me it just built character yeah like more than anything um and it was just like one of those situations where it's like man these things happen but just learn grow from it uh come back get better like type thing there's no point in me feeling sorry for myself like nobody's gonna feel sorry for you yeah so it was just like you know get better give yourself some grace how many what injuries were you did you have that i had uh i had like a bad ankle injury yeah um that because it was like your lift on your yeah your shot lift on your shot. I was going into games where I couldn't like, I would be warming up like before the game.
And I'm just like, bro, I can't even move. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Type thing. And that's a long story.
But like ended up like right after the season, they're like, man, you need to get surgery. Yeah.
Like type thing. So it was just like, all right, cool.
Yeah, but it was, I mean, it was clear and you were battling through it, which you should get more credit for. Yeah, I mean.
And we're not Knicks fans, so we'll give you credit. Yeah, I mean, it's a different beast when you're in New York.
Yeah, no, it is. They don't care.
It is. Like big time.
If I tried to do this podcast and I had like a severe concussion during the podcast, that's all I would talk about. Yeah.
Hey, listen, none of the shit that I'm saying right now should count against me because I am banged up. Yeah.
And I would just milk that. But I guess it's, yeah, different mentality if you're a professional athlete.
Yeah, it's different. And it's just like for me, I think it's like the Kobe spirit in me as well.
Yeah. It was like, man, I've seen this dude battle through so much.
And just following him in his career and just knowing who he is as a human. So it's just like, man, if you can give your team anything, you know, go out there and give them whatever you can.
You know, obviously, you know, you criticize all that different type of stuff. But like I said, man, I wouldn't change anything about it.
Because we are fans and we're stupid.

What do fans get wrong about the NBA?

Like when they're watching it or like they're just –

it's like that's not how it works.

I think it's – from my perspective, it's that I don't think anyone –

I think the average fan doesn't realize how incredible you guys all are at basketball,

even like the last guy on the bench.

Yeah, it's that.

And I don't think they understand how hard it is to win. Okay.
What do you mean? It is not an easy place. It's like every night.
It's like I don't care who it is you're playing, let alone win a championship. Right.
But to go out every night and win games and play at a high level, it's not easy.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

It's like – and I say that because I come from a perspective of, like,

I've been on bad teams, and I've been on teams where it's not fun.

Like, and you go into the arena knowing that you're outmanned, outmatched,

and, like, you know, if you win, if you win like it's like the biggest relief ever you know i mean because i've never grown up in my career losing games yeah i got to the nba right you know i mean and it was a rebuilding situation so it's like appreciating winning like at a high level like it it's not easy to do wait so in the, when you've been on bad teams, do you guys still in the NBA do the thing that like you do when you're growing up playing team sports and you look across to the other team, you're like, oh, we're fucked. No.
Okay. You don't do that.
You don't do that. But it's like you count it.
You're like, all right, that guy, that guy, that guy. And we got, oh, shit.
Yeah. No, you don't do that, at least me personally.
You compete. You're a competitor at the end of the day.
So I don't really do that. But I've been on teams where it's like, all right, man, we didn't win a game in two weeks.
Yeah. We got to figure out how to win a game.
Yeah. And you know when you were growing up that every team you played did that for you.
They were like, oh, we're fucked. Yes, I can guarantee.
We could go get kids from Texas that were in that same area at that time and be like, yeah, what was it like playing Julius Renz? Like, yeah, we showed up and we were fucked. You guys got to land on a private jet.
They just saw you. They just looked at you like, shit.
My mom said, not tonight. I remember that.
i remember yeah you could feel it i'm sure you could for sure is there is there a uh like if you're in the middle of a losing streak if you're on a team that's not going to compete for anything at the end of the season it's a long season and it gets dragged out uh is there a difference between like how to be a good teammate on a shitty team versus how to be a bad teammate

on a shitty team like is can you pull together towards anything if you're on a team that's that bad uh yeah i think it's like all about environment like and uh like coaching like stuff like that you know i mean because it's like you can lose games but are you learning anything you know what I mean

it's like my biggest thing

is like

um

like now it's like

I'm even winning

I'm winning

I'm winning

I'm winning or learning so it's like i've been on bad teams where we were losing and we weren't learning shit you know mean? And I've been on teams where we were losing and we were learning and then eventually we got better. You know what I mean? And, like, that team, like, specifically I remember the team when I was with the Lakers, like, the last year, where it was, like, me, Lonzo, B.I., like, Kuz.
Like, we weren't a great team, like, to start with, but we started winning games because we just had a good environment, good coaching. You know what I mean? Every day we were coming in, we were learning something.
Yeah. And eventually we started to win games and learn how to win games.
Now you're on a really good team. Yeah.
I'm on a great team. Yeah.
Really good team. When you first got into the league, who was the one guy that you were like, oh, man, he's way harder to defend than I ever imagined or like craftier strength or? LaMarcus Aldridge.
Oh, good answer. Yeah.
Not a crazy vertical for LaMarcus Aldridge, but he was. But he knew how to get a bucket, man.
Yeah. And it was like very simple, but he knew how to like get buckets.
He knew how to draw fouls. Like, he was – and he was, like – he was at the time, like, when I came into the league where it was, like, the big man were, like – it was, like, real still, like, big man.
Yeah. It was, like, still two true, like, your power forward could be seven foot.
You know what I mean? So, it was, like, it was still like that. And, like, you had, like, three out, two in type thing.

So it was like he would get the ball on, what was it, that right block maybe

or whatever it was, and he would go to work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Very good.

I've always heard also Stephen Adams is a crazy guy to go up against.

Strong as hell.

Because he's, like, the strongest.

He'll just knock your ass over.

Yeah.

He was different too. Yeah.
What about the first time you saw Wimby? It was crazy, man. Yeah.
He was like, the guard, he didn't even look real. Yeah.
I don't know if I want to interview him, but I just want to see Wimby. Yeah, I want to see him walking by.
Yeah, he was different. He was different, yeah.
Yeah. He creates all sorts of math problems that you've never had to figure out.
Yeah, definitely. It's nuts.
Definitely, yeah. Yeah.
All right, this has been so much fun, Julius. We really appreciate you coming by.
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We mentioned earlier, the Tibbs practices. What, what's the craziest drill or practice that Tibbs would make you guys do? I'm fascinated by this stuff.
We had Joe Keem in here and he, what he told us what was a Kirk Heinrich. He said used to sit in the, in the, uh, in his car before, before the practices and just be like, God damn it, God damn it, I don't want to do this.
Or is Mike Dunleavy, maybe? We got this drill called 100 passes. Oh, okay.
That sounds like a lot. And imagine running a play and passing the ball around five or six times.
Yeah. And then start – don't shoot.
Start the play over again. Pass it another ten times around.
Drive, pass, drive, pass. And keep doing it until you get to 100 passes.
So he created edging for basketball. Yeah, that sucks.
That's terrible. Then you were shooting at the end.

And then you get to 100 pass.

The 100 pass, you shoot or whatever it is.

You can finally shoot?

Yeah, you finally shoot.

After, after.

That's a special drill.

Damn.

Just touch the ball 100 times and then shoot.

Yeah.

Yeah, we got that.

And when you shot, after you shot, would you do it again?

Yeah, absolutely.

We'll do a different player.

Oh, my God. That was one of those drills where you get one of the younger players, you're like, hey, it again? Yeah, absolutely.
We'll do a different player. Oh, my God.

That was one of those drills where you get one of the younger players,

you're like, hey, man, get in for me.

Yeah, I'm going to take a breather.

Yeah, you go run around.

He's doing the 100 pass thing again.

You can see it coming.

Yeah, oh, actually, I did have one other question.

Wait, PFT, you had the last question?

Yeah, I was just going to ask about some of the work that you do in the community

because it's pretty cool stuff that you're up to,

and I feel like a lot of people would like to hear about it. Yeah, think uh i mean it's really no matter where i've been um i think like for me uh just the work that my wife and i do uh is very important we both come from you know single parent families um and just underprivileged kids so we're all always been about like helping the the youth out, helping single moms out just because we've seen our moms do it and struggle to provide us with everything.
So we always are trying to figure out a way to give back. And doing the same thing here in Minnesota, I'm going to be working with some kids here.
Skechers is helping out. So it's like whenever I, like, partner with people or, like, brands brands or whatever it is i always try to bring them in but uh super important for us that's awesome and you you got a court named after you yeah that's pretty cool where's the court uh that was in new york that's in new york i worked with uh nicks legend earl monroe yeah um and basically had this thing where it's like the amount of threes I made is what we donated.
Like I had a bunch of people come in and like pledge a certain amount of money for every three I made. So like I think last this past year we donated like 1.3 million to the Earl Monroe School.
That's awesome. Which helps like kids.
And they're doing like Earl, Dan, like those guys are doing an amazing job. Like they took, they took these kids.
They're doing Earl, Dan. Those guys are doing an amazing job.
They took these kids from the Bronx. These kids' reading levels were three or four grades behind and took these kids, put them in with these great teachers.
Their first graduating class is coming up, and their test scores are amazing now. That's awesome.
It's it's way bigger than basketball yeah like for me like being a part of new york and that community like it was big and i'm still helping those guys out just because they're just incredible what they're doing over where did you live when you were in new york we used to live in new york as well i was in scarsdale okay for my first couple years because you know we practiced yeah the city and then i was in Manhattan my last year. I was in the Upper West Side.
Our old office was right across from Madison Square Garden. Oh, yeah? I heard about that.
Yeah. I knew that.
It's that area. It's good.
Not sometimes. During COVID.
There was a couple times where I came in the office and there was a guy jerking off in front of me on the street.

I said Minnesota is a lot more convenient.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You get in a car.

That's the thing.

I do miss parts of New York and it is nice not having to get a car.

But then when you do get in a car, it's like, oh, this is kind of nice.

Just put on music or podcasts.

Just drive.

It's got to be nice getting out to the Midwest.

Yeah.

I love it.

Stretching legs a little bit.

All right.

Well, Julius, thanks so much, man.

Anytime you're in the city, we'd love to have you back on. This was so much fun.
I appreciate you guys. Thank you.
Thank you. Yes, sir.
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My husband and I have been married for a year and a half, and he is still weird about me seeing his dick when it's not hard. What? Whenever he's getting out of the shower or something, he always hides it and says we aren't that close, but his dick is definitely not small, so I don't get it.
Is this typical guy behavior, or is he a psychopath? Psychopath. Not a psychopath, but at this point, yeah, you should be well beyond that.
Now, a lot of women don't realize that the size of a man's dick can fluctuate wildly depending on anything from the temperature of the room to what pants they're wearing, what they had to eat that day. Were they running? Are they scared at the moment? That's also a lie.
He definitely has a small dick. Yeah.
If you had a big dick, you don't give a shit. Yeah.
No, you'd be flashing it everywhere. Everywhere.
He's probably grower, not shower. Yeah.
And yeah, at any given time, walking around, probably like an 80% difference in how big your penis can appear. He just wants, he's still putting on like the happy face for you.
He's not afraid to show you his real self. And that's the problem.
My urologist was a stool yesterday. you did you show it no so uh i went to the urologist for my kidney stones guy very nice very nice doctor uh walked in and he was just like hey you seem familiar maybe an on big online presence and i was like sick nice let's see that schlong yeah so we talked about my kidney stones he took the kidney stone he's gonna do a test and all this stuff looked at some uh ct scans whatever and i was like are you gonna look at my dick and he's like no i don't have to and then i was just like well i shaved for you and that got awkward do you want to yeah uh and then he said after he's like, just so you know, like I, I follow you on Instagram, but I, that I had been following you for a while.
It wasn't, it didn't just happen. I was like, I appreciate that.
But yeah, I mean, depending on how my kidney stones go, that guy will look at my dick eventually. So I had two urologists in New York when I was going through the same thing with kidney kidney stones one of which was a uh an awl the show did not show him my dick the other guy was not but you feel like you have to make small talk when the doctor is like looking at your dick on moving your dick around and feeling things and uh so he was like so uh so sullenberger is that the uh is that the name of the guy that landed that plane in the hudson and the only thing i could think to say because we were still doing that joke was yeah you know they drank they named a drink after that guy and the guy the guy goes oh yeah and then i just couldn't bring myself to deliver the punchline i just i joke big time it's a big yeah it's a big time moment i uh what's the punchline? You know the punchline.
Yeah, Grey Goose with a splash of water. All right, speaking, I guess we'll go to this one.
Speaking of dicks. Okay.
There's a picture that's involved. There are a couple pictures.
Oh. Hey, PMT.
I've been on three dates with this guy, and he's in Michigan for one month, and he sent me this update catching fish with his grandpa. Is this raging 14-inch boner, or does this man just love fish? Also, can I handle this in the future? What would you do? Thanks.
So I'm going to send the picture. Okay.
And then I'm going to send it. Nope, I got it pulled up on the screen.
Yeah, that guy's got a hog. He's Jon Hamm.
Holy shit. Yeah, good for that guy.
Good for him. He should be holding the fish up next to his dick to show how big the fish is.
What if he just has stuff in his pockets and she's expecting the Jon Hamm? So I'm looking at the angle right now. There could be something in that right pocket that gravity is pulling down.
Yeah, it could be a golf ball. Or just his phone.
Do we have any other picture? Just the group text from this girl so to her friends oh is that okay uh all right good it is a girl okay so we have confirmation because obviously there's a lot of people who think the guy's on chicks there's a lot of men that write in that would be an all-time wrinkle if this dude awo basically concocted a story for us to look at his penis. No, so it's a group text from this girl.

It's a girl sending the picture to her friends,

and then one of her friends goes,

is that his dick?

I just choked.

Do you think the girl's telling that a lot?

Yeah, I think you got it.

I mean, he's also, the fish is a nice fish.

It's a really nice fish.

And he's not doing the cheating thing

where he's putting the fish too close to the camera

to make it look bigger than it is.

That and his dick.

There's a good possibility this guy sent you that picture

because there was something in his pocket weighing it down that made it look like he had a big dick and he wanted to send it to you so that you get excited i don't know dude the guy's wearing the croquis the uh the sunglass things he's kind of a sportsman i think that's a man's man i think that's a man's man you might be yeah might just be dealing with a guy with a hog We're gonna need this person to follow up

After they go on the date

To see if it's actually that big

And the guy with the big dick and the fish

If you want to chime in with your size

Soft and hard

We'll take that

Listen she just needs to be like Sam Pittman

Embrace the hog

Alright last one

And this is also from a girl who got tricked

By her boyfriend

Hi Alex it's Mariah

I'm sorry. embrace the hog yeah all right last one and this is also from a girl who got tricked by her boyfriend uh hi alex it's mariah i got your number from nolan he told me you won tickets to the patriots game this sunday obs i want him to go and have fun but please make sure he behaves himself lol last time you guys went to a game he didn't come home until the next morning i'm working sunday night and need him to be home to watch our daughter.
He's a 32-year-old child. I can't believe I even need to send this, but please make sure he doesn't get into trouble this time.
And then followed up and said, Oh, okay, I don't know who this is, but my husband's sitting next to me dying laughing. Like I said, I married a child.
Wait, what is this? I'm a little bit confused. I'm very lost.
This guy told his girlfriend that he won tickets to the Patriots game with apparently a person that he had previously gone to a game with and dinked him home until the next day.

Yeah.

And then she said, I want to text them and like.

Do you have another guys on chicks?

My bad.

This is a miss.

Memes.

I thought it was funny. I want to understand this.
So the husband had her text this number. Yeah.
And that was it. Wait.
The husband texted the guys on chicks. No.
The husband had his wife. Text the guys on chicks.
Yeah. I like this dude for the record.
No, it was a miss. My bad.
But this dude rocks. The fact that you, the wife has to actually, if this story's true and the wife has to be like, hey, he has to look after our fucking daughter in the morning, that's awesome.
This guy is like, he just got, listen, it's always, when you get older in life, those like moments of like, oh, the night got away from me. I just didn't come home.
Those don't happen anymore. But if you know someone who that could happen to, that guy rocks.
And it's always, there's always one friend that you have to be on the lookout for. Yeah.
Everybody's got that one friend and getting to spend one night. It's like a little, it's a mini vacation that he gets.
Like I've- Give him one night alone with with his most unruly friend i've had moments in my life where i've been out with friends and it's like oh night got away from us we just didn't go to sleep we just went to the casino till 7 a.m or we stayed those are the best nights ever and i wish i could still do those i haven't done one in forever this guy rocks credit to him his wife wrote a confusing guys on chicks but i love this fucking guy he's the man um pug any presidential uh orders you got for us i still got to link up with blake and cook up some policies okay uh tbd on that okay happy birthday pug by the way happy birthday happy birthday big 3- be, what, 210? Oh, wow. You're getting up there.
We're getting up in the years. Love that.
Yeah. Thank you.
Also, I received a lot of feedback from Monday's show, especially the end of the show, accusing me of not saying love you guys to the listeners. Many people felt unloved.
I did say I love you guys. It seemed like this was Max

during, you know, he's trying to

psych me out for hate week

and take me off my game because

the Eagles-Commanders game on Thursday.

Wouldn't be surprised if he does some monkey business

and takes it out at the end of the show too.

But I did say I love you guys and it was visible

on the YouTube.

We'll see.

Pug, when you fuck, if you fuck for like a minute, are you like, yeah, actually that was seven. Dog years.
Yes. Okay, nice.
It would rock. Credit to you, Hug.
If when Pug became a dad, he had like six kids at once. A litter? A litter of Pugs going around would be so great.
Pug, if you have anything, if you have six tuplet, the odds are like one in a billion. But if you do, I want you here and now to say that we're allowed to make one of those weird, creepy reality shows about him.
Okay. Okay.
If it's seven, no. If it's five, no.
Six has to land exactly on six. That would be crazy.
That would be crazy. But guess what? The reality show would pay for your kid's life.
Six of them. The Puglets.
Those shows. What was it? Octomom?

Octomom, yeah. And John and Kate Plus 8.

Those were.

Nothing is a bigger guarantee of your life getting ruined than doing all those shows.

Yes.

Okay.

The Duggars.

The Duggars.

Numbers.

Three.

Forty.

Eleven.

Five.

Ninety-nine point.

Twenty-one.

Sixty-four. 5.
99. 21.
64.

79.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Thank you.