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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, week 10 in the NFL. We've got a lot to talk about.
We had a great game in the Steelers, Commanders. The Bears season is very much over.

Speaker 1 Patriots win. Eagles win.
Jets season is over. We're going to talk about every single game.
We're going to start with fastest two minutes. We're going to do who's back of the week.

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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, November 11th,

Speaker 1 week

Speaker 1 10.

Speaker 1 11-11.

Speaker 1 Happy Veterans Day. Veterans Day to my dear close personal friend, Kellen Winslow.

Speaker 1 He's a soldier.

Speaker 1 We start in Germany where America finally got revenge for World War II by forcing them to watch the Panthers and Giants play football.

Speaker 1 Danny Dimes translates to Danny Deutschmark and his stock is currently sitting stacked up in a 1933 wheelbarrow. Chubba L.

Speaker 1 Ron Hubbard reached the executive division of his career after signing a massive extension and running for a buck fifty in a score.

Speaker 1 The Giants defense put up the softest resistance since the French army.

Speaker 7 The Maginot line on the field is not official boom.

Speaker 1 The Panthers have a winning streak, huh? Huh?

Speaker 1 The Panthers 20, Giants 17. What? What?

Speaker 1 We come back stateside to Indianapolis, where Bills head coach Sean McDermatologist clogged all the pores on his defensive line.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco, the owl, couldn't fly straight and got smashed by the Bills' Super Bowl window, throwing three picks on the day.

Speaker 1 Tyler big mouth Billy Bass was giving Anthony Soprano Richardson fever dreams that he should be back as a gold starter as Indy drops another one. And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 The Bills 30. The Colts 20.
Over to Kansas City where the Broncos may have found their Neil Diamond in the ruff as I saw his face.

Speaker 1 Now I'm a believer as Bo Nicks led the Broncos to two first half touchdown drives.

Speaker 1 Cortland Sutton about Mary had sticky hands on his touchdown and Vince Devon Valey scored as well telling the Broncos to lock it up. No, you lock it up.

Speaker 1 And it was locked up until the Chiefs went into superhero mode. Teenage Kansas City Turtles.
Leonardo blocks kicks. And Patrick scores TDs.

Speaker 1 And Chennault blocks the game-winning kick, keeping the Chiefs undefeated on the season at 9-0. Chiefs 16.

Speaker 1 Broncos 14.

Speaker 1 I wrote down the wrong team name there, Teach.

Speaker 7 That was good, Adela. Boom.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Teach.

Speaker 1 We go down to Washington and our nation's capital, where Jamarcus Russell Wilson has the Steelers leaning towards the top of their division as he found Pat Brianna chicken fryermuth for a touchdown, making the cornerback look like the smallest man alive.

Speaker 1 Teach, you hear

Speaker 1 what they're calling Zach Bryan? They're calling him NDA Youngboy. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I heard about that. Jeremy McNickelback scored a touchdown and saw Zach Erch looking like a rock star and get called short.
Take a look at this photograph. Looks like a first down this catch.

Speaker 1 How the hell is that not a first down? The parallax angle drawn.

Speaker 1 The Steelers 28. The Commanders 27.
In Chicago where Henry Lockwood's on the scene. Down to the South Loop where we have a battle of Bears versus Pats.
Huh?

Speaker 1 Is this an NFL game or an episode of Out and About?

Speaker 1 Joey Fatone Sly was in sync with his holder as he got the scoring started in the first quarter before Drake May threw Jalen Polk a dot for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Joey Sly Salone said, if I can change, you can change. Everybody can change as he got the scoring started in the third quarter, second half with another field goal.

Speaker 1 And then Joey Sly Cooper snuck two more through the uprights as the Pats beat up on the Bears 19-3.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Hank. In Los Angeles, where Goodwill Hunting Levis returned to the starter role after Brian Callahan told him it's not your fault.

Speaker 1 And he was able to find Calvist Calvin Harris Ridley for two scores, making Titans fans feel so close to watching a real offense.

Speaker 1 After a couple of ugly divorces from head coaches, Justin Her Burt Reynolds got the longest yard, rushing for a touchdown on Sunday and throwing another one.

Speaker 1 And the Chargers get the win Chargers 27 Titans 17 we head down to Dallas where Max is there on the scene

Speaker 8 we head over to Dallas where big AJ Brown and the Eagles get up boo

Speaker 8 and old JJ Jones and the Cowboys get up

Speaker 8 Johnny Cass Wilson told the Cowboys fans, I will make you hurt.

Speaker 8 As he secured the first touchdown of his career, Quinyon Billy Mitchell continues to put up video game numbers as he once again locked up another top receiver in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Eagles 34, Cowboys 6.

Speaker 1 Great job, Max. Boom and Doom.
I like that. We then head to the desert where memes

Speaker 1 watch the Jets. In Arizona, where Rick James Connor said to Woody Johnson, fuck your team, Woody, as he scored the team's first touchdown.

Speaker 1 Marvin's room Harrison said to the Jets defense, are you drunk right now? I'm just saying you could play better.

Speaker 1 Trey Danny McBride said, I'm freaking pumped. I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day as he trucked Maude Gardner.

Speaker 1 And it looks like Aaron Steve Rogers is going to try some of that life Tom Brady was talking about and walk off into the darkness. Cardinals 31.
Jets 6. That was sad, memes.
Very sad, memes.

Speaker 1 We finished out in Tampa Bay where Jake... Moody, Moody, Moody, Moody, missing everywhere.
Struggled early, missing three field goals, and almost put the 49ers back in the mud. But here I am.

Speaker 1 Proc you like a purdy cane. Was able to drive late and give his kicker another shot for the game winner.

Speaker 1 Rookie better call Pearsall is no longer in witness protection, scoring his first career touchdown. And Los Angeles Laker Mayfield had a JJ Red dick after sticking it into the Niners Raw.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't enough in the end. The Niners 23.
The Bucs 20.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week 10 in the books. It was an interesting Sunday starting in Germany.
We had the worst afternoon slate, I think, of all time, which we will get to. But

Speaker 1 we're going to talk about some games, talk about some teams. The Sickos and Perverts have lined up for this episode.

Speaker 1 I was convinced

Speaker 1 after the early slate, I was convinced that the Eagles and the Jets would lose in the afternoon so that it would just be Hank would be the sole winner on this show. The Eagles ended up winning easily.

Speaker 1 But we have misery

Speaker 1 to throw around.

Speaker 1 Big day for the couch.

Speaker 1 I'm in the wrong spot.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Max's supposed to be on the couch.

Speaker 7 The winner's couch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The winner's couch.
Okay, should we get into the games though, boys? Let's talk about it. All right, let's get into it.
So we started in Germany.

Speaker 7 Did you wake up for it?

Speaker 1 I did. Well, yeah, I woke up at 6.30.
So yeah, I was up. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It was a tough game to be a Giants fan. Yeah.
Now, we talked about how the owners of the Giants, the Mira family, they told Brian Dable that they weren't going to fire him.

Speaker 7 They made a public statement about that. Yes.

Speaker 7 And then we went back and we looked at the last two coaches that they've said that to, and those last two coaches were fired before the end of that season. Correct.

Speaker 7 I didn't think that they should, I don't think that they should fire Dable, but today actually made me look like an idiot for saying that because it did look like a team that quit. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You could see it in a lot of the small things, like the

Speaker 7 punt returner getting a personal foul after he caught the ball and then throwing a punt, like an open-handed punch. Yeah, they're bad.

Speaker 7 And then he goes to the sidelines and then he just sits there on the sidelines by himself without having a coach come up to him and be like, hey, dude, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 7 You're hurting the whole team. That's the dumbest thing you can do.
That is,

Speaker 7 that's the mark of a, I'm going to say poorly coached football team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. So Panthers 20, Giants 17.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about the Giants, but I wanted to give the Panthers, they don't get anything. The Panthers Panthers are a sad organization.

Speaker 1 They've been a laughingstock for the last, like a true laughingstock for the last three years.

Speaker 1 David Temppers completely put them in the dumpster, and they finally have a winning streak for the first time since 2022.

Speaker 1 So I want to give them credit because Bryce Young, maybe not the numbers, but the poise, you can tell that he has gotten, he's more comfortable.

Speaker 1 And, you know, maybe sitting him for those few games was huge for his development because we talked about it on Friday, but the Giants were leading the league in sacks.

Speaker 1 They only sacked him once today. He was moving around.
He was, you know, he extended some plays with his feet. He made some big

Speaker 1 throws at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 Like, maybe I'm back into believing in Bryce Young, but either way, it looks like he is getting better, which is something that you couldn't have said at the beginning of this season.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so Bryce had a couple plays where in the past he drops back, he feels pressure, and then you can see him say, oh, shit, during a play, and then he panics and freaks out. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And today, he was like moving decisively. Yeah.
He wasn't stopping to think in the middle of plays and be like, oh, this is fucked up.

Speaker 7 He was like making that decision a half second sooner than he normally would. And he did look good.
I thought he looked good in the first half.

Speaker 7 Next week, I believe, let's see, I think they have a buy, and then the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have a buy, but

Speaker 7 that could be bad for them. But you won two in a row.
Two in a row.

Speaker 1 First time since week 14 in 2022.

Speaker 7 And Bryce's trade value just skyrocketed.

Speaker 1 It did.

Speaker 1 And Chuba Hubbard is awesome. He got signed to an extension, and then he came out and he delivered 153 yards in a touchdown.
He was running all over them.

Speaker 1 The Panthers have like no weapons. Everyone's hurt.
They traded Deontay Johnson and they found a way to win this game.

Speaker 1 And I know that it doesn't really mean anything because they're still bad, but it still means something in the fact that Bryce Young looked a little better.

Speaker 1 And like any little glimmer of hope is nice to be like, hey, maybe we're moving a little bit in the right direction.

Speaker 1 So I feel happy for Panthers fans, especially when you have to wake up early to watch that game.

Speaker 1 You don't want to watch a game where you lose, and they look like they were going to lose it until Tyrone Tracy fumbled in overtime, which you should be happy if you're a Giants fan, because at this point, you should be tanking.

Speaker 1 You should be, Daniel Jones should not play another snap. He should not play another snap because he has, he has the, remember Russell Wilson last year, and there's Jimmy, was it Jimmy Group?

Speaker 1 No, it was Derek Carr a couple years ago, where if he gets injured, his money becomes guaranteed.

Speaker 1 And you can cut him this year and it's you don't have to pay him any more money and it's like a 22 million dollar cap hit you should not play him another down of football this year well let's embrace debate big cat because you said that they should tank they should be hoping for the lowest draft pick possible if you put now if you play drew lock

Speaker 7 Drew Locke's going to do some fuck shit. He is, but he might win you a couple games that you might not win otherwise.

Speaker 1 But part of tanking is also clearing your salary cap going forward, and you don't want to

Speaker 1 have to pay Daniel Jones another dollar once you cut him after, I think it's the fifth day of the new league year.

Speaker 7 The risk reward on playing Daniel Jones is: is it worth it to keep him in the game to increase draft value and to have a higher draft pick?

Speaker 7 Is that worth the risk of getting him injured and having to pay him more money and put you in cap-hell? Yes.

Speaker 7 It's a good question. That's up for debate.

Speaker 1 I think you just roll the dice with Drew Locke. I also think, as a Giants fan, you probably just don't want to deal with Daniel Jones anymore.
He is so bad. He's,

Speaker 1 I tweeted during the the game, he's breathtakingly bad because there were a couple plays.

Speaker 1 There was the one where he just threw one, I think it might have been to neighbors, where he threw it like 20 feet over his head and it was maybe a seven-yard out.

Speaker 1 And then the flea flicker, which was perfectly dialed up, two wide open receivers, and he somehow got sacked on that.

Speaker 1 And that's not even mentioning the interceptions in the red zone where the first one, he got tipped, but it was tipped a lot. Like, I think Jada McClane was directly in his face.

Speaker 1 And the second one, he couldn't have thrown a ball to a worse placement when they were trying to score, and he threw it on like all the way on Tyrone Tracy's back shoulder.

Speaker 1 He's so bad, and he's so bad. And I have to give Daniel Jones a little bit of credit because somehow

Speaker 1 he has made $108 million being as bad as he has been. Six years, he's played in the NFL.
He's 24 and 44 as a starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 You should tip your hat. Like, I don't know how he did it.
Even the year that he was, like, you know, the year that he was incredible, he wasn't that incredible.

Speaker 1 He was just, the bar was so low that they're like, oh, shit, he looks like he's building something.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you do have to give him credit. He is an all-time bag getter.
And somehow he managed to convince everybody, like, okay, let's give him a little bit more time to develop.

Speaker 7 He's a time-to-develop king. So I don't think that that has any more runway for him.
I don't think that there's anybody out there saying, like, we still need to see what Daniel Jones can do.

Speaker 7 Let's give him time in the system.

Speaker 1 And the craziest part about Daniel Jones is

Speaker 1 like when he was picked out of Duke, everyone was like, that's a bad pick. And then it was like, he's bad.
He's never at any point been like, oh my God, he's an incredible quarterback.

Speaker 1 He deserves all this money. He's just been mediocre to bad his entire career and he's made $108 million.
I tip my cap to him. You know what?

Speaker 7 I want to tip my cap to the fans on draft night that freaked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Big Ev. He got Big Ev.
I got him

Speaker 7 because it was Big Ev at the front of it. I saw some other people that were shamed during the season where Daniel Jones didn't look that bad.
There were people that were shamed.

Speaker 7 They brought them like on television. Do you remember that? Yeah.
And they said, will you take back your draft night take? How bad do you feel right now?

Speaker 7 They got in their face with the camera and they tried to convince them that they got gaslit that season. Those guys need justice.
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 7 They should bring the people that interviewed them onto TV and be like, apologize to me now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Tommy Smokes also said he might leave fan base if Daniel Jones gets drafted. That was on draft night.
He did then come around and say he's the guy when he got his contract extension.

Speaker 1 But that, listen, I trust your instinct on draft night should count. Like, everyone can be fooled if you win some games, get to the playoffs.
Can you find the Big Ev video?

Speaker 1 Because he was, he, it was an all-time video and he nailed it. Yeah, he deserves all the credit in the world.

Speaker 7 That's the opposite of an old takes exposed. Yeah.
These people were right. And the people that old takes exposed them, they got the old takes now.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 So it's, I mean, it's just, it's, oh, here's, here's Big Ev. This is the, this is the moment that he gets drafted.
Oh my God, this is such a great video.

Speaker 1 Just so you know, ESPN created Daniel Jones as a zero-star recruit.

Speaker 1 Zero star.

Speaker 1 What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Athletic family.

Speaker 1 Zero-star recruit.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen's going to be in a gold jacket. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I mean, he, yes, yes, he's right.

Speaker 7 This is a correct man.

Speaker 7 And we told him he was wrong.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 7 That's so bad. You know what I think was baked into that take, too, is the fact that he knew that Daniel Jones was built in a lab for the Mara family to fall in love with.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Right? Yes.

Speaker 7 And he knew he somehow saw the future of nice enough guy, very soft-spoken, looks kind of like a Manning. Yeah.
And if he's just average to below average, they would throw a bag at him.

Speaker 7 And you have to deal with him now for six years.

Speaker 1 He's built for Wall Street. By the way, that was Josh Allen's, Josh, Heinz Allen that Big Ed was talking about because Josh Allen was drafted in the draft before maybe it was 2017, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So that wasn't still bad, but it wasn't as egregious.

Speaker 1 But it's very funny because all these guys were right. Like they were exactly right.
And that clip is so perfect because he's screaming.

Speaker 1 and in the background, it's like he was rated a zero-star recruit and he comes from a very athletic family.

Speaker 1 If those are the first lines out of your mouth when you get drafted, that's a bad, bad thing.

Speaker 7 His mom is way faster than he is. So just wait.
He might, he might grow into it. We should put out a graphic that says something about how like

Speaker 7 Daniel Jones drafted by the Giants while Josh Allen's still on the board. Yeah.
And then in like very small letters at the bottom, say Jaguars. Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, it goes to, I mean, I've had this take for a long time, and there's very rare exceptions, but quarterbacks that are average, just average in college don't usually become superstars.

Speaker 1 You know, like they, you got to have at least some flash somewhere in college to then be like, oh my God, they're going to become something great.

Speaker 1 Most of the time, a guy who's just average in college just stays average.

Speaker 7 Real swag is no swag, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a disaster, though.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for Giants fans.

Speaker 1 $108 million and the fact that you paid him and it cost you Saquon Barkley. That's the double whammy.
It's a double whammy. But yeah, I think it has to be over.
I think Dable has to bench him.

Speaker 1 It's the bye week. Just be like, we can't get him injured and cost us more cap.

Speaker 1 Like Dable should do that as a sign to be like, because you said that I'm here for the long term, this is what the long term

Speaker 1 should do. You know what I mean? Like we should keep, we should, we should sit him so we don't have to pay him if he gets injured.

Speaker 7 And then force them to make their decision right now. Right.
Based off that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so, and they are in tankathon. I think they're number two right now, so they could get a quarterback.
Good spot.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Did you see what I see, though, on the sidelines with Brian Dable?

Speaker 7 It looks like he's numb to it. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. It looks like every time they make just a boneheaded decision,

Speaker 7 the camera's on him, and he's just staring into the abyss. Yeah.
The thousand-yard stare.

Speaker 7 He doesn't get mad anymore. No.
He's like, I've seen it all. Nothing's going to change.

Speaker 1 I'm just here so I don't get fined. Yeah.
Kind of thing. Yeah, no, it's a bad vibe for him, and it's a bad scene for Giants fans.
I feel bad for Giants fans.

Speaker 1 It doesn't feel like any fun, and you had to wake up early to watch this game, and

Speaker 1 everything, you know, it's just you're basically restarting again,

Speaker 1 which is a shitty feeling. I know it all too well.

Speaker 1 A couple other notes from this game. Sean Hockley, a little bit of a show-off.
He did the, did you guys see he did a penalty in German?

Speaker 1 His dad did that in Mexico City in 2005, so it was kind of like a passing of the torch of the Hockolies.

Speaker 1 And then we also had Roger Goodell said that his world domination tour is just getting started because he announced he's planning on doing eight games next year internationally.

Speaker 1 London, Spain, Brazil, Mexico City, Germany, and possibly Ireland.

Speaker 7 So I think this is Goodell

Speaker 7 shooting his fan base in the foot on this one. There's a lot of hungover NFL fans.
We don't want to wake up that early in the morning. I said it.
He doesn't respect hangovers.

Speaker 1 I've said it.

Speaker 1 The European game is fun if it's two times a year. That's a fun thing.

Speaker 1 It's a cool thing. Oh, oh, cool.
Sunday.

Speaker 1 If it's every week, which it feels like, it's too much. It's too much.
And it's also like the inverse of, like, I don't want them to send really good games.

Speaker 1 I want them to send the Giants and the Panthers because I don't want to have... I don't want to have to have it be like Ravens and Bengals international.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't make it a game that means something. Right.
So it's kind of a catch-22 where it's like, I don't really, you're making us watch this game because

Speaker 1 we are owned by the NFL. Our brains are owned by the NFL.
I watched the majority of this game and I just stopped doing it. Put it on Sunday Sacred.

Speaker 7 Don't do this. Like, if you're going to have a game that you need to be drunk to watch, don't have it start when it's too early to be drunk.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 1 The Tyrone Tracy is good. Minus the fumble.
Which could have helped him.

Speaker 7 The fumble was bad.

Speaker 1 But this is the thing you have to look at. But you know what?

Speaker 7 I liked how he reacted to it. Yeah.
Because he went to the sidelines. It looked like he was crying.
He was really upset. And he still feels something.
Yeah. He cares.
He cares a lot.

Speaker 1 He cares a lot. Just don't trade him away.
We also had

Speaker 1 Dexter Lawrence, I think, afterwards. They said, like, is Dabel's message getting through? And he said, yes, we just have to comprehend it better.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 7 Got it. So it's on us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I also liked he was talking about schnitzel. And he couldn't pronounce it.

Speaker 7 And he was like, I like, and he told the reporters, he was like, you guys are going to make fun of me for how I say this. I like schitzel.
Schitzel is delicious.

Speaker 7 And then I just couldn't stop thinking about Xavier Legette saying the word schnitzel. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Schnitzel. Schnitzel.

Speaker 1 Schnitzel. Yeah.
I mean, all the shots of the German beer halls. That look kind of fun.
I mean, do they wear Liederhosen all the time? Octoberfest is September, right?

Speaker 7 It's in, yeah, like late September.

Speaker 1 So, but do they just dress up like that all the time to go to the beer hall?

Speaker 7 That's their lingerie. Got it.
Crotchless Liederhosen.

Speaker 1 Got it. Yeah, because they were showing it.
I was like, what's going on here? But, yeah,

Speaker 7 a lot of pretzels in the stands.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Pretzels in the stands.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 they sung. Did they sing Country Roads again? They sang.

Speaker 7 I think Machine Gun Kelly sang Country Roads.

Speaker 1 So they just think that we just all walk around singing Country Roads, which I guess we do.

Speaker 7 It would be more appropriate for be Wagon Wheel. Yeah, there was a very funny part when they sang Sweet Caroline in the middle of a play.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Was it an interception or a turnover? I think so. It was a big play, but the whole crowd didn't care because they're like, hey, Sweet Caroline's on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're playing this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, good job, Germany, I guess. I mean, good job, Panthers.
That's really all that matters. Good job, Panthers.
First year head coach. You got to try to win a couple games.

Speaker 1 They might win a couple more. And

Speaker 1 it's good to not be the worst. You can't just tank every single year.

Speaker 7 And honestly, if I'm a Panthers fan watching this game,

Speaker 7 I'm a little bit excited about Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 Like, you could tell yourself that maybe some... I mean, listen.

Speaker 7 It's probably the best that he's looked in terms of decision-making since he was in college.

Speaker 1 And it's also like, yeah, I get it. If you have a top draft pick and you could take another quarterback, you should.
But he's also the cheapest he'll ever be is right now.

Speaker 1 Well, I guess, no, he could definitely be cheaper.

Speaker 7 Second contract?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he could definitely be cheaper now that I'm thinking about it. But you're not paying him a lot of money right now.

Speaker 7 Do you think if the Panthers, and there's a whole bunch of reasons that go into like the CBA and when you are and are not allowed to extend a quarterback?

Speaker 7 If it was possible and the Panthers offered Bryce Young like a four-year extension at $1.8 million a year right now, do you think he would take it?

Speaker 1 Probably not.

Speaker 7 I'm saying if the fifth-year option was not a thing. Probably not.
You don't think so? No.

Speaker 1 I think he probably thinks, I mean,

Speaker 1 most backup quarterbacks, yeah, could get a little more than that. Yeah.
Yeah, he might have a, maybe if he made it four years, $5 million a year, I think he would maybe take it.

Speaker 7 He'd be interested. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, I mean, the Panthers, like that, you're already a bad team. The flight back from Germany's got to suck.
Sucks a lot less. Yeah.
Sucks a lot less. The Giants' flight sucks a lot more.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 They're going to be eating sad stroop waffles.

Speaker 1 What does Daniel Jones do?

Speaker 1 He kind of was built to be a backup, wasn't he?

Speaker 7 Well, he looks like a generic creative backup quarterback. Right.

Speaker 1 Or even his name.

Speaker 7 On like Nintendo Wii. He's like a me backup quarterback.
His name, everything about him, his style of play, he seems like a backup.

Speaker 7 But the fact that he was drafted so early, sometimes it's hard for those guys to become backups.

Speaker 1 How much do you think Daniel Jones owes David Cutcliffe

Speaker 1 for getting drafted that high and just basically being able to survive six years in the NFL being terrible because that I feel like was the big sticking point for him getting drafted because Cutcliffe and like the Mannings, everyone's like, you got to trust this guy.

Speaker 1 I feel like that was a,

Speaker 1 you know, obviously throw aside the super athletic family, which what quarterback, what, what number one first-round quarterback doesn't have a super athletic family? I'm trying to think.

Speaker 7 Trevor Lawrence's brother.

Speaker 1 Trevor Lawrence. I bet you if he wanted to, he could be, He probably could show up and be a baller.

Speaker 7 I think he just was probably introduced to marijuana at the age of like 14. Yeah.
And he was like, this is cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Someone gave him a rage against machine CD.
Yeah. I was like, I'm done with sports.
But yeah, Daniel Jones, David Cutcliffe, good job. You got him six years, $108 million.

Speaker 7 He probably had like one good day at the Manning Passing Academy.

Speaker 1 Cutcliffe probably just called the Mara family and was like, and called David Gettelman and was like, hey, you remember Eli?

Speaker 1 I got number two for you.

Speaker 7 He showed up.

Speaker 7 He showed up early for the first day of intermediate drills at Manning Passing Academy, and he was just set from that point on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 The best game in the early slate. Steelers 28, Commanders 27.

Speaker 1 PFT, I'll let you go whatever direction you want to go with this.

Speaker 1 I feel like you guys, I mean, you almost won that game.

Speaker 7 I think this was a good game for me because I didn't want to say it out loud, but... When we got up 10 points,

Speaker 7 I did the emojis. I said the thinking emoji and then the soup emoji, but I didn't say it.
It's probably good for me to lose this game. Around you a little?

Speaker 7 I would have declared that the Commanders could win the Super Bowl on this show, and I don't think that that's realistic. I think that there's a lot of holes in the secondary.

Speaker 7 I think Marshawn Lattimore, when we get him back, it's going to make a difference. But we got holes at receiver two.

Speaker 7 I think we had like six drops today. Ton of drops, some boneheaded mistakes.
Overall, I don't think we played that poorly, but we're just not a complete team yet. And yeah, it's good for me.

Speaker 7 I'm on to Philadelphia right now.

Speaker 7 I'm not upset, although the narrative will start. I think it already has started that we can't beat a good team.

Speaker 7 But we do have two great losses to the Steelers and the Ravens. Yeah.
Excellent losses. Yeah, those are excellent.
I'd say those losses are probably even better than wins.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 7 thanks, Max.

Speaker 1 Wait, were you being sarcastic?

Speaker 7 Yeah, he was being very sarcastic.

Speaker 1 I also feel like

Speaker 1 if you said it would take all the way to week 10 for Jaden Daniels to have not an MVP-level game, that would be a deal you would take in a heartbeat.

Speaker 7 He didn't do a lot with his feet today.

Speaker 1 The Steelers did a good job of keeping him in pocket.

Speaker 7 What I took away from this is the Steelers' defense is awesome. They're really good.
Everything that the Commanders had to do today was very, very difficult.

Speaker 7 Jaden, I thought, threw the ball pretty well. Had a lot of drops, but I think he threw the ball well.

Speaker 7 Didn't run at all, basically. And we kept TJ relatively in check, which was nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the only thing I would say negatively about the Commanders' offense, and it's something they'll just get better at, is that they only had two first downs in the fourth quarter, which is like, that's, you know, that's when you got to salt the game away.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and then a dumbass mistake at the end by

Speaker 7 Newton. Nobody, nobody, I've never seen a player actually fall for that hard count trick in the last six years, except maybe to Aaron Rodgers.
Occasionally, Aaron will catch it.

Speaker 1 That was insane. Like, the whole world knows that that's what they're doing.
Yeah. And then he jumped almost instantly.
It wasn't even like five seconds left in the play clock.

Speaker 7 It was like 14 seconds. I said when they went out on the field and it looked like Tomlin was going to go for it, I said, don't jump.
Yeah. Because Tomlin doesn't want to go for this.

Speaker 7 Tomlin would much, much rather punt the porch.

Speaker 1 Well, he did say that he said, we'll never know if he was going to go for it because you know I'm a degenerate. That's true.
Which I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 7 A degenerate what?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Tomlin was in his bag because he said, he also said, I think he was talking about the Ravens' upcoming game.

Speaker 7 He said they're a hot hot group but we want to be the firemen yep and then also on the fake punt which was the coolest fake punt and should have worked but they just dropped the ball uh he just said i'll do it again yeah it should have worked um danny smith the special teams coordinator for the steelers all-time gum guy yeah yeah i think he is the only person that's on the gum mount rush more yeah he's always got like six seven pieces he also looked like he got into a fight before the game do you see that yeah he had like three knuckle marks on the side of his head but that was it was a good call didn't work out um also credit to Russell Wilson because I think Russell Wilson and Pickens played awesome.

Speaker 7 The catch that Pickens had in the first quarter,

Speaker 1 unreal.

Speaker 7 And then Pickens, you get the good Pickens with the insane Pickens.

Speaker 1 He was maybe the most insane he's ever been.

Speaker 7 This is why I love watching George Pickens play football because you don't know what he's going to do on any given play.

Speaker 7 On the interception, he gets up and then he throws, I think that was Sandristrill. He threw him to the ground.

Speaker 1 He went full UFC.

Speaker 7 Just ignores the ball carrier. And then he goes down onto his neck like he's going to bite him like he's a vampire and rip his throat out.

Speaker 1 And there was also the one play where it was

Speaker 1 basically he caught the ball on the sideline and there was maybe five commanders and he was ready to fight each and every one of them at the same time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like he just turned upfield and just started pushing people and was like, fuck you guys. Yeah, this where he's just like ready to take on the whole commander's defense.

Speaker 7 He tried to do a stiff arm after he was already while jumping.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Which, if you know anything about physics, you want to have your feet planted. George doesn't care.
No. George doesn't know about physics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he has been completely unlocked by Russell Wilson. The Steelers' offense looked bad in the middle part of the game.

Speaker 1 And then, I mean, Mike Williams, he had nine snaps all game, and he just got traded, and he makes the winning touchdown catch. And Russell Wilson made the plays when he had to.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, the Steelers are really, really good. And Mike Tomlin is one of the best coaches.
I told this to Jerry, and this goes for all Steelers fans. I don't ever want to to hear mediocre Mike again.

Speaker 1 Mike Tomlin is a really fucking good head coach. I would kill for Mike Tomlin as my head coach.

Speaker 1 What he does in Intangibles is insane. He gets the most out of everyone all the time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, including some of his psychotic players that he's had over the years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 I do fully believe that Mike Tomlin enjoys having one guy on the team like that. Right.
I think that's part of what he loves about coaching is having one guy that will absolutely wreck you mentally.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And then figuring out a way to harness that guy's guy's energy.

Speaker 1 And he's just

Speaker 1 time and time again.

Speaker 1 We went through the stats. It's another win against a rookie quarterback, another win off the buy, another win as a road dog.
Like this is just Mike Tomlin. This is what he does.
He's just,

Speaker 1 it's so consistent. I know that Steelers fans are like, oh, he hasn't won a playoff game in six years.
Okay.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of franchises that have not been to the playoffs in that time.

Speaker 1 You just don't. Mike Tommin's just such a good head coach.

Speaker 1 You feel like when you go into a game with Mike Tomlin, there's a chance, you know, like he's going to get the guys to a place where they could overcome maybe some talent deficiencies and win games.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but do you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't wish that we had.

Speaker 7 I wish that we had won the game. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It would be nice to win the game and look at the records and say, okay, we're still up on the Eagles, but I think it might be good for me mentally to keep myself from becoming too delusional.

Speaker 7 Like, this made me a little more illusional.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it brought you back down to earth.

Speaker 7 I'm maximum illusional.

Speaker 1 Max has his hand raised. I think he's.

Speaker 2 Jaden Daniel did not not have a good game.

Speaker 1 I didn't think that he played for 34, 68 quarterback rating.

Speaker 7 I think he had six drops, though.

Speaker 4 Did you just make that number up?

Speaker 2 I'm looking at the stats.

Speaker 1 Do it right now. There were a lot of drops.
Oh, the drops. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think it's okay to say that when he doesn't have a great game.

Speaker 7 I don't know. He didn't play his best game for sure.
I wouldn't say that he played poorly.

Speaker 2 17 for 34, 68 quarterback rating.

Speaker 1 Lost the game. I know.

Speaker 7 Max, if you watch the film, you a film watcher?

Speaker 2 I'm a numbers looker.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna

Speaker 7 put up a report and I'm gonna see how many how many drops he had. I'm gonna think about it this way.
Make a compilation of them.

Speaker 4 Records don't matter in the playoffs. It only matters the game in front of you.
That was a playoff game, and you guys lost, and your quarterback didn't play that well.

Speaker 7 So we're 0 for 2 in playoff games this year.

Speaker 4 Like, if you're going to keep up with this

Speaker 4 facade of being a really good team, like, you have to... Like, if this is a playoff game, you could not be like, Jane played pretty good.
Like, that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right.

Speaker 7 I'll take that. I'll take that under advisement.

Speaker 7 That's fair. I need to learn how to win.
And part of learning how to win is learning how to lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah, it is.

Speaker 11 Like, it's, you know what?

Speaker 7 This doesn't live up to my expectations.

Speaker 4 If you're going to be a winner, you've got to be mad at losses.

Speaker 7 Jaden,

Speaker 7 this will probably be.

Speaker 4 That was a game that slipped through your cracks.

Speaker 1 Notice I'm not saying anything because I would suck a dick for that stab line.

Speaker 7 This will probably be Jaden's worst, least deserving Pepsi Rookie of the Week award.

Speaker 4 When all of a sudden I don't think he's getting

Speaker 1 the Pepsi. Well, PFT stuffs the ballot.
That's what he's been doing. He's been voting a million times every week.

Speaker 2 He talks about it and he also talks about it.

Speaker 1 Vote early, vote often. Yeah, he's won weeks where it's not even been close.

Speaker 1 That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 2 I just feel like

Speaker 2 the listeners deserve to hear an opposing opinion towards Jaden Daniels game.

Speaker 7 Max, I will agree with you that this was.

Speaker 1 A reminder, they are division rivals. That's why Max is saying that.
Yep.

Speaker 7 But Max, thank you for thinking of the listeners. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 No, you're speaking of the listeners.

Speaker 4 The listeners want you on the couch, and you're back in the back. That's true.

Speaker 1 And Pug, yeah, President Pug did say.

Speaker 7 That's a good point. You're

Speaker 7 defying an executive order right now, Max.

Speaker 1 That's not. You could go to jail.

Speaker 1 You could go to jail. Pug's not even here.

Speaker 7 Oh, so because he's not here? Is he on his way? Character is who you are when no one's watching.

Speaker 1 That's facts. That's big facts.

Speaker 7 I was on the wall of my weight room in high school.

Speaker 1 That's big facts.

Speaker 7 I took it to heart. Yeah, Max, I will give this to you.
Jaden probably had his worst game.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. It's week 10.
This is fine. Yeah, yeah, probably.
Which is fine.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to think of when the last...

Speaker 7 Probably his worst game since week one

Speaker 7 against the Buccaneers.

Speaker 7 Yeah. But I do think it's fair to go back and watch the throws and the drops that he had because I think that would add like 70 yards to it, 60 yards to it.
And there were a bunch of them.

Speaker 7 But I'm a winner, so I say the standard has to be better. The standard is the standard.

Speaker 1 It needs to be higher. Saying Thursday night

Speaker 1 is going to be

Speaker 1 a hell of a game.

Speaker 7 The towels didn't work, by the way.

Speaker 1 Towels did not work.

Speaker 7 There were a ton of Pittsburgh Steelers fans there. Are you guys?

Speaker 4 I also got to just say, I think you're wearing one of your most ridiculous outfits of all time.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to pile on, but I also was thinking this. They're being mean to you, PFT.
I don't want a yellow

Speaker 1 yellow shades. I'm not piling on at all.
It is. I'm just

Speaker 1 looking at you, and I just can't figure any of it out.

Speaker 7 These are my sad shades that I have on.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's anything that PFT could wear that would make me be like, whoa,

Speaker 7 what if I came in here?

Speaker 4 Combination.

Speaker 1 Maybe in a suit?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know what? I'll be honest with you. I just put the sweater on because it was the closest that I had to me.
I didn't think about the matching. It was cold in here.
It's freezing in the studio. Max.

Speaker 7 Max. Turn the air conditioning down.

Speaker 1 Okay, whatever. I love it cold.

Speaker 7 I'm not happy. I'm not happy with the loss.

Speaker 1 Thursday night's going to be a huge game. Thursday night.
For the division. Also, I mean, this is a huge game for the division.

Speaker 1 I also feel like PFT noticing, I've been noticing it from afar because I have nothing to do with the NFC East. Your wish before the season, Max is definitely bothered by the commanders.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You have accomplished that feat where he is looking at you as a real rival now.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm starting to hear from Philly fans out there a lot. Yeah.
I'm starting to get like a and he's rooting against you like hard.

Speaker 1 1%

Speaker 1 of what he

Speaker 1 said.

Speaker 7 What you deal with, Hank. I'm getting like 1% of the Philly hate.

Speaker 7 But yeah, this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted you to care.

Speaker 1 And he does.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I mean, it is as clear of a two-team race for the NFC East as you could possibly have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, as there's ever been. Yeah.
Where's the game on Thursday?

Speaker 4 And whose line is it anyway?

Speaker 7 I'm going to say DraftKings.

Speaker 1 Who's Thursday?

Speaker 7 By four.

Speaker 1 I was going to say four as well.

Speaker 4 It is Eagles minus three.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 I will be taking the Commander's Money line PFD.

Speaker 7 Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 1 Should I take the Eagles for

Speaker 1 so it's a split house?

Speaker 12 I mean, Hank's just a troll. He's the only one who's in the game.

Speaker 1 You knew he was going to do that. Although Hank had the Steelers today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he also had the Cowboys. That was a good pick, right?

Speaker 1 He basically just takes whoever our teams are playing. Yeah.

Speaker 12 No matter what.

Speaker 2 And he likes to see my pain way more than PFT's pain, so that's why I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's true. That's facts.

Speaker 4 That's very true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's more facts.

Speaker 7 Who'd you have in Cardinals and Jets?

Speaker 4 I had the Cardinals.

Speaker 7 Okay, interesting.

Speaker 4 Well, that was Big Hat Maybe.

Speaker 1 I mean, I was right that it was like one, like, we're going to just have one of those Mondays where the sickos and perverts all line up to listen to this shit.

Speaker 7 Okay. I would have loved to get to 8-2.
8-2 would have looked awesome. 8-2 is a serious record.

Speaker 1 That's a serious record.

Speaker 7 You've got to pay attention to an 8-2. 8-2 is, yeah.

Speaker 1 8-2 is a top-five team. Yeah.
No matter, pretty much no matter what the season or what the situation, 8-2 is like, whoa.

Speaker 7 This is a Cool My Jets weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up, Chiefs, 16, Broncos, 14.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs keep getting away with it. It's incredible.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs should have lost this game.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, no, I shouldn't say should have lost because Leo Chennault, Badger, made an incredible play to block the field goal that would have won the game for the Broncos.

Speaker 1 But this was a game where, if you're the Broncos, it is like in two parts the most demoralizing loss because you had to win. And then also a really good,

Speaker 1 not moral victory, but just a, hey, we're not as bad as we looked against the Ravens. We can hang with these guys.

Speaker 7 If you're a Chiefs opponent, and I think that they've now won nine games in a row where they're down by seven points or more, which is crazy. That's a crazy stat.

Speaker 7 If you're one of their opponents, would you rather have the most heartbreaking loss against the Chiefs so that your loss to them stands out and you're like, hey, you remember what a good fight that team gave you?

Speaker 7 Or would you just have like a run-of-the-mill type, you know, eight-point comeback that they had where nothing super heartbreaking happens at the very end?

Speaker 1 Probably nothing super heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 Because this one, I mean, this one, if you had gone into this game and you're a Broncos fan and you said the Chiefs were going to go one for four in the red zone scoring touchdowns, that Bo Nix was not going to throw any interceptions, and the Chiefs would weirdly struggle to run the ball, you'd be like, shit, we got a chance here.

Speaker 1 We're going to win this game. And Bo Nix, like,

Speaker 1 he didn't make any mistakes. He had two first half, like, great touchdown drives.

Speaker 1 And even like the Broncos defense standing up at the end, making the Chiefs kick a field goal where you have the chance to potentially win the game.

Speaker 1 And Bonix driving down 13 plays, 43 yards to end the game. He put them in the perfect spot.
And the Chiefs just keep getting away with it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're going to be.

Speaker 7 It's going to be the same episode week after week after week.

Speaker 7 If you're watching a Chiefs game and you're a fan of their opponent, that's like watching Scooby-Doo and being a fan of an old guy that likes to dress up like a ghost. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You're like, oh, I think they, fuck, they did it again. They did it again.

Speaker 1 They did it again. And the Broncos' defense was all over Patrick Mahomes.
They sacked him four times. It felt like he was under pressure non-stop.

Speaker 1 They were doing creative blitzes. They were just all in his face.
It had all the makings of the Chiefs losing a game like that. Like, that was a Chiefs' loss until it wasn't.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs are now the first team to win 15 straight games since the Packers won 19 in a row in 2010-2011 season. So, you know, when they won the Super Bowl and then started out hot.

Speaker 1 They just seven one possession

Speaker 1 games this year. They're undefeated still.
They have the lowest point differential for an undefeated team, 9-0.

Speaker 1 But it doesn't matter because even if you could, even if you want to be one of those devils' advocates and be like, oh, well, the Chiefs are different.

Speaker 1 They're not like, they're just barely winning these games. It doesn't fucking matter.
They're going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 You know how we've had the conversation?

Speaker 7 This is what they do. We've had the conversation about Andy Reid versus Belichick because Andy Reid's stacking up wins now to the point where at some point he could pass him.

Speaker 7 We're already having the conversation about Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes. If these Chiefs go undefeated and they win the Super Bowl,

Speaker 7 that would pretty much seal the deal for which dynasty is more impressive, right?

Speaker 4 It would definitely beat one of the Patriots dynasties.

Speaker 7 One of the three.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Would it be the top dynasty, though? It would be the top dynasty.

Speaker 4 Top dynasty, not top organization yet.

Speaker 7 Gotcha.

Speaker 4 It would be undefeated three in a row. There's like you can't really take anything away from that.

Speaker 7 It'd be best dynasty chiefs, second place, Patriots

Speaker 7 in the late 2000s.

Speaker 7 And then what would be third place?

Speaker 7 Patriots, early 2000s. Early 2000s.
And then fourth place would be Patriots late 2000s.

Speaker 4 Patriots had two.

Speaker 1 Two dynasties. Tom Brady had an extra

Speaker 1 add-on-top extension of the dynasty with the Bucs, a personal dynasty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Andy Reid is now 39 wins away from Bill Belichick. Yeah.
So that's, I mean,

Speaker 1 if they keep winning how they're winning, that's four or five more years. I mean, I think Belichick will coach again.

Speaker 1 But that's reasonably five more years if they win 10 to 12 games at a clip.

Speaker 1 And right now, I don't, next week, they play the Bills. If the Chiefs beat the Bills, the one seed's wrapped up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know what would it like because it would be head-to-head, Ravens, and I guess the Steelers could be in the mix there, but it would be head-to-head against the Ravens and the Bills wins, and

Speaker 1 they would have zero losses, and the Bills and the Ravens would each have three.

Speaker 1 So I don't know, like, it would be hard for them to fuck that up. It would be pretty hard for the Chiefs to fuck that up.

Speaker 7 So the Chiefs are now 9-0.

Speaker 1 They do play the steelers so that is week uh 17.

Speaker 7 so they're nine and oh you know what their preseason win total was in vegas

Speaker 1 uh probably 11 and a half 11 and a half yeah easiest money in the world yeah yeah easy to walk to we all should have seen this coming yeah and and again i don't even care if they've been impressive because it doesn't matter they have a complete football team that's the thing it's like the i guess the only thing that like the the injuries did xavier worthy get banged up again today i think it was because i think patrick mahomes might have gotten another wide receiver hurt because he kind of overthrew him and he got hurt, I think, going to the sideline.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 they'll be fine, though.

Speaker 1 I'm sure Rashid Rice will probably somehow come back.

Speaker 1 I don't know what his exact timetable is, but why wouldn't he come back? Did he tear his ACL? No, I don't think. He's CCL.
Yeah, he'll probably be back.

Speaker 1 And they'll probably be like, oh, Rashid Rice hasn't played any games. Oh, he's going to play in this

Speaker 1 first round of the playoffs. And he's going to get like 100 yards.
Like, oh, no problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're just really, really good. And the Broncos, I feel bad for them, but at least you know that you can hang and you're building something.
Because last week was bad.

Speaker 1 Last week was the Broncos are frauds. This week, I don't, like, that was a loss, and I do not think the Bronte, I think the Broncos are a good football team building something.

Speaker 7 You think best loss of the week?

Speaker 1 Best loss of the week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Definitely. Ah, Bucs.
We will get to the Bucs. Bucks had a pretty good loss, too.
Yeah. Yeah.
Bucs keep having good losses.

Speaker 1 Okay, anything else for this game? I don't think I have anything else on my name. Oh, yeah.
Audric Estime. He looked good.
Notre Dame. Powerback.

Speaker 1 I think he's a.

Speaker 1 Is he a Roback athlete? Was he a Roback athlete last year? I feel like I said his name a bunch for those ads. Maybe his body armor.
Shout out Audrey Gestime. Estime.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Patriots 19 Bears 3.

Speaker 1 Henry.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I knew it was.

Speaker 1 I had a feeling that this could happen, so it didn't hurt as much. I think you wanted more pain.
You said it on Friday. You wanted more pain out of me, but I had already kind of quit.

Speaker 1 Everything's a disaster. The Bears are a joke of an organization.
Caleb Williams looks really, really bad. Shane Waldron's a joke.
Matt Eberflus needs to get fired.

Speaker 1 They're just

Speaker 1 as bad as

Speaker 1 there's been some really bad Bears offenses.

Speaker 1 They have somehow reached a new low that I said during the game, I was like, if you, instead of waterboarding in Guantanamo, if you just made a terrorist watch the Bears' offense on repeat, they would tell every secret they've ever had.

Speaker 1 That's how bad we are. And I, I mean, the numbers are insane.
We had one drive longer than 21 yards. We had one play longer than 12 yards.
The Patriots going into this game had 16 sacks on the season.

Speaker 1 They sacked Caleb Williams nine times today. Caleb Williams now second most all time through 10 weeks.

Speaker 1 The last three games, they have 34 possessions, 27 points. They've been outscored 66-27 since the bye week.

Speaker 1 They started the season or started this game with field position on the Patriots 48, the Bears 40, the Bears 48, and they got zero points out of it.

Speaker 1 It is one of the worst teams, if not worst teams in football.

Speaker 7 How many drives in a row has it been now without a touchdown? A million. Is it like 23?

Speaker 1 A trillion.

Speaker 7 It's a lot of drives. It's all bad.

Speaker 1 And listen,

Speaker 1 I'm, I am an optimist at heart, so I'll be like, maybe Caleb Williams will turn it around with the new coaching staff, but right now it's, he's by far the worst rookie, and nothing works, and he looks completely lost, and everything sucks.

Speaker 1 And everyone was right, and I was wrong, and I'm stupid, uh,

Speaker 1 and it sucks.

Speaker 1 I don't know what else to say. I know people are going to be like, you have to admit, I admit everything that I've been wrong about everything, and everything is terrible.

Speaker 1 and it's just back in the same spot and i i went on tankathon today during the game i have not been on tank-a-thon at all this year and i was excited to not be on tankathon i was looking at offensive linemen on tankathon in the middle of the third quarter this game was so so bad the bears are so so

Speaker 1 so bad and maddie burfluce should be fired tomorrow and it won't fix it listen Matty Brufluce and Shane Waldron deserve blame, but I'm not saying it's all on them.

Speaker 1 The offensive line is horrendous. Ryan Poles should have done a better job with the offensive line, and Caleb Williams has looked really, really bad.

Speaker 1 So it's a collective effort, but you can't fire Caleb Williams,

Speaker 1 but you can fire the coach, and the coach stinks. So make us feel better for a day, and nothing will change.

Speaker 4 I don't really have anything else to say. I feel bad.
I legitimately feel bad.

Speaker 1 Chicago feels bad. No, you don't

Speaker 1 feel bad.

Speaker 4 Dude, no, I've said it a bunch of times.

Speaker 4 There's no rivalry with me and the Bears. I like, you know, people from Chicago.
It's a great sports town. There's a lot of excitement all summer long.

Speaker 4 Everyone I talked to is like, bears, bears, bears, bears, bears.

Speaker 4 And then to see how the season gone is stunning. I actually thought at the beginning of the year, if you said that not only would the Patriots dominate the Bears, it wouldn't even be a surprise.

Speaker 4 Like, it wasn't even. No, that's.
Everyone, all the other Bears fans that were in the Gambling Cave are also basically dejected before the game even started.

Speaker 4 And when they lost, they expected it, and they it was just they rolled over without even a fight.

Speaker 7 It's sick having a team that you know is going to disappoint you, and still, every day, making every week you make an appointment to sit down on a couch and watch them disappoint you to make you angrier.

Speaker 1 And we play the Packers next week.

Speaker 1 I, I, yeah, I mean, I think I actually should apologize to you, Hank, because I probably stole a little of the joy out of this for you because I was realistic going into this game where I was like, I think this team might have quit, and there's a good possibility that we lose in a very ugly fashion.

Speaker 1 Um, I was hoping I was wrong, but I, when we talked about it on Friday, we talked about it this morning, I definitely, this was on the table for outcomes for today.

Speaker 1 It was worse than I had imagined in terms of how it looked, but I absolutely walked into this game being like, we could 100% lose it, and we probably will lose it because they've quit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was really ugly. Their offense was horrendous.
One of the worst I've seen.

Speaker 7 Ever.

Speaker 1 And it was, it's like the worst combo of

Speaker 4 got to be the coaches.

Speaker 4 You can't

Speaker 1 have the weapons.

Speaker 1 They don't have the offensive line. Well, no, the offensive line is terrible.
I don't think anyone gets schemed open, and Caleb misses every throw.

Speaker 1 Add that all together, and it's just like the worst possible outcome you can get.

Speaker 7 What are the percentages that they beat the Packers? Zero. It's zero.
It's not one percent.

Speaker 1 Zero. Zero.

Speaker 1 I don't have a winning team that I root for.

Speaker 1 Every single team I root for is a loser. I haven't won a football game in three weeks.
Four weeks. That's college and NFL.
I got to play Oregon in college and the Packers in fucking

Speaker 1 NFL. I'm going to lose.

Speaker 1 I wonder if draft games would do that. Combined point spread.
Did I lose by?

Speaker 1 I would set the line at

Speaker 1 33.

Speaker 1 34, 34 and a half. Actually, no, that's way low.
44.5 combined loss next weekend. I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 2 What do you think the Packers Bears line is going to be?

Speaker 7 Let's guess it. Where's the game?

Speaker 1 Whose line is it anyway? It's at Soldier Field. Packers minus eight.
No way. No.

Speaker 7 Six and a half. Five.

Speaker 1 Should be 14.

Speaker 4 50 hit it on the head. Packers minus 16.

Speaker 1 That's free money.

Speaker 1 If you want to take the Packers, that's free. But that's also because they don't know if Jordan loves playing.
They will be eight if Jordan loves playing.

Speaker 1 Everyone's going to bet the Packers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Doesn't that make you excited? Maybe it's a team. No.
Maybe it's a team. That should make you a team.

Speaker 1 I guess if they fire Matt Eberflus, but I don't even know who the interim would be.

Speaker 7 Shane Waldron.

Speaker 1 It's just a joke. The whole thing is a joke.
It's the whole organization a joke. Everyone was right.

Speaker 1 I shouldn't have said any. I shouldn't have gotten excited over the summer.
Actually, you know what?

Speaker 1 I don't regret getting excited because that's the only happiness I have is to get excited before they actually have to play games.

Speaker 1 But it's the same organization that is just consistently getting in its own way. And I was wrong to ever think that, like, Caleb should have asked to not come to Chicago.
He should have.

Speaker 7 Give me a hierarchy of blame. Who's number one?

Speaker 1 The McCaskies.

Speaker 7 Okay, number two.

Speaker 1 Probably Eberflues, but then, well, no, because

Speaker 1 the McCaskies again, probably, because they probably didn't want to fire Eberflues. I was going to say Poles, but I think Poles whose hands were tied with Eberflues.

Speaker 1 So it's probably McCasky's, then McCasky's. Okay.
Then we'll throw Kevin Warren in there because people don't forget he tried to cancel the Big Ten season because of COVID.

Speaker 1 Then Iberfluce and Poles.

Speaker 1 Shane Waldron.

Speaker 1 And then Caleb.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I mean, Caleb's been bad.

Speaker 1 He looks so bad.

Speaker 1 It's really, really bad.

Speaker 4 Bad body language.

Speaker 1 I don't know what... Did you see the clip of Shane Waldron laughing in his face? I would fucking punch him.
He should have punched him.

Speaker 1 And now I get it. DJ Moore, I get why you're upset.
I'm upset too. Bad body language, bad team, bad everything.

Speaker 1 It's just a gross, gross situation, but it's the same situation they always find themselves in.

Speaker 7 I think, personally, you should have Shane Waldron ahead of Matt Ibrafluos.

Speaker 7 Because the Caleb Williams body language, all that shit that comes from an offense that's just confusing.

Speaker 7 I'm not talking about confusing for like a quarterback to process, confusing for what the fuck he's trying to do offensively.

Speaker 1 But Matt Ebrafluce was a bad coach last year. Yeah.
He was a a bad coach the year before. I know we're trying to tank, but he's never been a good coach.
He got a good haircut.

Speaker 7 So his barber should go

Speaker 1 high up on the battle. He's our guy.
Funk's a man.

Speaker 1 Just all sucks. Drake may look good, Hank.
Minus the pick, he looked good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 He's going to have a better career than Caleb Williams. All these guys are.
First time

Speaker 1 J.J. McCarthy hasn't even entered the season.

Speaker 7 He looked good in the preseason.

Speaker 4 First time this season,

Speaker 4 they look good. And then I took a look at the schedule.
First time I've really looked ahead. Patriots got a lot of winnable games coming up.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at you. Maybe Yoffs?

Speaker 4 I think we're too far away from Yoffs, so it's like who cares about winning these games?

Speaker 1 What are the winnable games? Dolphins? All of them. Colts?

Speaker 4 Dolphins? Colts? Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, Rams? Yep.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Cardinals? Yep.
Cardinals are good. So are the Pats.
Bills? What?

Speaker 4 Bills, probably not.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I think you're getting confused.
I think you're getting confused. The Bears are the worst team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Right now, if you did a power rankings for the last three weeks, they are the worst team in the NFL by far.

Speaker 2 Not even close. Memes is arguing Jets.

Speaker 1 No, the Jets won a game, didn't they? They beat the Texans. What are you talking about, dude?

Speaker 2 He just keeps saying we suck

Speaker 1 to himself. Okay, so Hank.
We lost in the exact same way to the Cardinals that you did, and then we lost to the Patriots.

Speaker 1 I guess they're actually kind of on par because you lost the Patriots as well. Yeah, we're the same fucking franchise.

Speaker 1 We are the same franchise. It really is.
It's crazy how bad it is. It's just no matter what,

Speaker 1 we get in our own way. If they had hired Jim Harbaugh or Mike Vrabel going into this season, I think the whole world would have looked different.
They always hire one,

Speaker 1 either the GM or the coach at different times. Correct.
They're on the same page. The owners suck cock.
It's like just fucking the same.

Speaker 1 Over and over. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's a joke. And I'm still going to hold out hope for Caleb because that's what I want and hope and pray, and I like him.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I can't pretend that it's looked anywhere close to competent in the last three games.

Speaker 7 I'm projecting at least three more wins for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Okay. Minimum.
Now do the Bears. Let me pull up the schedule.

Speaker 1 Zero.

Speaker 7 I think you guys might surprise somebody.

Speaker 1 Who are we going to beat? I think you're going to beat me.

Speaker 7 I think you're going to beat the Vikings. You're going to beat the Vikings at home.

Speaker 1 I mean, if we beat the Packers, it would be the greatest.

Speaker 1 I'll be so happy. Kidding me? That's why.
But it's.

Speaker 7 And I think you could beat the Packers.

Speaker 1 I think we beat the Packers if we have an interim head coach.

Speaker 7 Packers last game of the season, interim head coach. Also, Packers have locked up their playoff seed.
Yeah,

Speaker 7 it's bad. Maybe the Seahawks.
It's bad.

Speaker 1 I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 1 Have I covered it all? Do you think there's going to be people like, you didn't cover this? You didn't say this? You missed this?

Speaker 7 Hank, has Drake been exciting enough for you to

Speaker 7 really get amped up about? Yeah. I do.
You think he's the future?

Speaker 4 He's definitely the future. Patriots look good.
Their defense is turned around. It doesn't seem dysfunctional as the media tried to shape it out a few weeks ago.

Speaker 4 Their receivers are horrible, so it's like they're.

Speaker 1 You're talking about the mutiny?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm saying there's.

Speaker 10 The mutiny worked.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, the mutiny worked.
It absolutely worked. And there's a lot of room for improvement.

Speaker 4 That's not like you have the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you catch more balls. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But that can be,

Speaker 4 that's an off-season fix. Yeah, yeah.
Something you can fix with the draft.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I feel as lost as ever.

Speaker 1 You guys feel like you have a direction.

Speaker 1 Answer the question: did I cover everything? What do you think I missed? What will people say? You didn't say this. Oh, you got to admit this.

Speaker 4 Bad body language, you covered Caleb being bad. You covered.
Yep.

Speaker 1 I was wrong about thinking it was a good situation. Hebrew Flues is a fucking joke.
Justin Fields.

Speaker 7 You're going to ask about Justin Fields?

Speaker 1 No, I won't do that because Justin Fields got benched as a 4-2 guy.

Speaker 1 That still, the Justin Fields, keep Justin Fields and load up and these fantasy drafts that have Joe Alt going going ninth overall.

Speaker 1 And like,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 4 Are you mad about this? Your second draft pick?

Speaker 1 Roma Junes? No, I think Roman.

Speaker 4 You have done that over, though, given the holes you have.

Speaker 1 Offensive line.

Speaker 1 How is Olu Fashanu played? I think he was the pick after.

Speaker 1 He's been pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just a plug-in guy right now. I will say the only thing that I'll say is the Bears do have

Speaker 1 like all their offensive line. Their offensive line wasn't good, and then they all got injured.
That's a bad combo. Like, Darnell Wright was out.
Tevin Jenkins gets injured every other game. Uh,

Speaker 1 Nate Davis didn't play. He should be just cut.
I don't know. Like, everyone's hurt.
So, you started bad, and then you got way worse because you got everyone injured.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I think I covered it all. Yeah, I think so.
There's probably like a dozen Packers fans literally jerking off to this, like, sitting in their car.

Speaker 1 I hope one of them gets arrested.

Speaker 4 So, I, like I said, I was pretty neutral in this game until this weekend.

Speaker 4 I thought about it more and how many Bears fans I've met and become friendly with and how just instinctively it's like you kind of want to win. You kind of want to rub in their face a little bit.

Speaker 4 Not just you, but like other people that I know as well. And I was talking about how good of a sports town Chicago is.
It's a huge city.

Speaker 1 All of our teams suck.

Speaker 4 And it's even worse that like Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 Why would you do that? Why would you throw that in?

Speaker 4 It's just crazy that the big brother in this situation is like the little city.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, let me just fix that for you.

Speaker 4 That does. I understand how it makes sense.

Speaker 1 Packers aside, the Brewers will never win a World Series. But the Packers aside, the Packers aside.

Speaker 1 The Bucs obviously have Giannis, but he's going to be a Knicks soon.

Speaker 7 And then what's wild is the Wisconsin team that Big Cat roots for is also bad.

Speaker 1 But they begin in the past.

Speaker 7 Again, this is just. We're asking questions from the haters.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's.

Speaker 7 How much blame

Speaker 1 would you put on yourself in the hierarchy of blame all of it i shouldn't have gotten as excited as i did but that

Speaker 1 you don't say that don't say i agree with you i shouldn't say that because then that's the most boring thing in the world if i sat here all summer i was like we'll see i don't know what's gonna happen i think we'll see i think it's it'll be good well maybe he'll be good maybe it'll be bad maybe maddie brews will be good maybe bad i i can't i can't do a wishy-washy it's fair for you to say i shouldn't have gotten this excited but also knowing that like fuck that you're going to get excited every day i love hard and i hurt harder Put it on a quote card.

Speaker 2 What's the point of being a sports fan if you're not going to get excited? Yep. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the best part of the year, it's August. Yep.
And it will happen again this summer.

Speaker 1 We're going to hire someone new and we're going to draft an offensive lineman and I'm going to say that everything's going to be different. And right around Thanksgiving time,

Speaker 1 we're going to do the exact same show. And I'm going to be sitting right here saying the exact same things.

Speaker 7 And I won't regret it. But just wait, what if something weird happens next week?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Imagine how back you'd be.

Speaker 4 You've got got to start like a.

Speaker 4 How to go for me? What are the petition.signed sign.org? Change.org.change.org.

Speaker 4 You got to use your power and influence to get them out. Ever flu's out.

Speaker 1 I need to get the McCaskies out. I don't think that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Now we're talking.

Speaker 1 The city of Chicago needs new owners. Like,

Speaker 1 I guess Ricketts, well, we'll see. Maybe Ricketts could sign Juan Soto.
That will never happen.

Speaker 1 But get Reinsorf and the McCaskies out.

Speaker 7 If the city of Chicago was as communist as some people think that it is, they would absorb the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 7 They would take them out.

Speaker 1 It would do better. I mean, it's just, yeah.
I don't think, I don't think

Speaker 1 he's got to get fired.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's no chance that he's back.

Speaker 7 No chance. What about the secret extension?

Speaker 4 He's going to get fired tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Can you

Speaker 1 do? But they won't fire him because they never fire anyone.

Speaker 2 Like, they're still not going to make the playoffs if he gets fired.

Speaker 1 You've got to get the locker room back.

Speaker 4 I agree. Like, you've got to get it back.

Speaker 1 And the only thing with firing him is that you could maybe get a jumpstart on a new head coach, but

Speaker 1 they won't get a jumpstart on a new head coach, and they won't hire the best new head coach because they won't hire someone who's bigger than the organization.

Speaker 7 Is it Kevin Bayard? Yeah.

Speaker 7 So they asked him about the coaching staff after the game, and he was like, I don't really want to go there right now. No one does.
And he's a guy that's

Speaker 1 a classy guy.

Speaker 7 But he's just doing no comment. He's like,

Speaker 7 talk to my attorney.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think that's a fair response, too.

Rather than

Speaker 1 that shit.

Speaker 7 Rather than say anything. Because Because if you say, like, I have full confidence, then you sound like an idiot.
And if you say anything else, it is like a police interrogation. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Just don't say it. Shut the fuck up Fridays.

Speaker 1 Ibra Flu said we're going to look at everything. Start with a mirror, dude.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Did they see Cole Komet today?

Speaker 1 Did he play? Yeah, he played. He got a couple targets.

Speaker 1 Not enough. That's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not enough.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Everything sucks.
I love Cole.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 49ers 23, Bucks 20. 49ers off a buy.
Brock Purdy looked good. He was under pressure the entire game.
Todd Bowles was dialing up those blitzes. And

Speaker 1 I feel like,

Speaker 1 so I walked away from this game being like the 49. I expected the 49ers to win this game more convincingly off a buy, getting healthy, all those things.

Speaker 1 I feel like the 49ers are kind of snakebitten this year, and they have a tough schedule coming up.

Speaker 1 And I I weirdly think we should maybe take this opportunity to bet on the Bucs to maybe win the NFC South if we can find a good line. Because the Bucs have lost four in a row.

Speaker 7 Five in a row? The Bucs have now lost four in a row. Four in a row.

Speaker 1 They've been competitive.

Speaker 7 The All Saints win that was kind of wedged in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. They were competitive in the last two.
The Ravens game, that was when everyone got hurt.

Speaker 1 They made it closer. And the Falcons game,

Speaker 1 same deal. They were down like 14.
But they look competitive against 49ers today. They look competitive against Chiefs last week.
Mike Evans is coming back. Baker is an absolute dog.

Speaker 1 That fourth-down play where he was holding Bosa off of him was such an incredible play. And again, Brock Purdy played great.

Speaker 1 The drive to get into the field goal range was awesome, and they deserved to win this game.

Speaker 1 But I walked away from it being like, I kind of think the Bucs are, especially looking at their schedule, are going to maybe be heard from again.

Speaker 7 So the Bucs, right now, their last five losses are all great losses.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And they have one loss that's a bad loss. Yeah.
And that's when the Broncos came into town. And everybody was like, what the fuck is going on right now?

Speaker 7 But yeah, the 49ers, Brock Purdy, has he gotten faster?

Speaker 1 He's so good in the pocket.

Speaker 7 He's gotten great in the pocket. He's like very, he's deceptively quick back there.
A lot of functional speed out of Brock.

Speaker 7 And the way that he moves around and manipulates the pocket is really fun to watch. Now, I do think that the 49ers,

Speaker 7 I believe in the 49ers. I know you say that they've got a tough schedule coming up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they play the Seahawks, Packers, Bills.

Speaker 7 I think they can figure it out. Christian McCaffrey's back.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to see... Maybe it was.
So the first half they looked very good, and then they kind of just ran out of a little bit of gas. And it's also...

Speaker 7 They missed three field goals.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jake Moody is a problem.

Speaker 7 And got hit in the face by Debo.

Speaker 1 Debo, yeah, was fighting his kicker and his long snapper.

Speaker 7 The Debo punch that he threw was like that Detroit Urban Survival guy. Yeah.
He took out the kicker and the long snapper with one shove.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And the offense looked good for the 49ers.
Like, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I guess it's more that my expectations were that they were going to kill him and

Speaker 1 the Bucs just keep. Maybe it's more the.
That's what I was saying. The 49ers probably are going to be fine.
They'll be a playoff team. I shouldn't be worried about the 49ers.

Speaker 1 It's more that I'm impressed that the Bucs keep fighting. And I guess, yeah, they do have to become wins eventually.
But I looked at their schedule.

Speaker 1 They have the Giants, Panthers, and Raiders as their next three. We could blink in the Bucks.
And Mike Evans is coming back.

Speaker 7 And they also get their last two games, last three games to close out the season. Cowboys, Panthers, Saints.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they play our Chargers in the middle of that.

Speaker 1 I was looking, I was like, this team could easily get to 10 wins. Would that be enough in the NFC? I don't know.
But

Speaker 1 I'm just more impressed that the Bucs feel like they are time and time again outmatched. And like Tristan Wurfs got hurt in this game.
And still, it's just Baker. Baker just keeps you.

Speaker 1 It feels like Baker can do anything and keep you in any game. And the Bucs defense played okay.
And then they, you know, obviously gave up that last drive to Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 And Brock Purdy was the MVP of this game, in my mind.

Speaker 1 He was under pressure the entire game, and he was still making plays. And yeah, it was good to see Chris McCaffrey back.
Healthier than I think he's ever looked, Hank.

Speaker 7 He said he missed playing football. Yeah.
He said it's fun to play football again. Sounds like a guy that really wanted to get back out there on the team.

Speaker 1 He looked great. He looked great.

Speaker 1 He looked great. I guess it's also, and we'll get to the Cardinals, but like, I think the Cardinals might be really good.
And the Cardinals already beat the 49ers once.

Speaker 1 So that's going to be a tough division to end up winning. And

Speaker 1 if you think that there's going to be three NFC North teams, the Packers, Vikings, and Lions,

Speaker 1 and you think there's going to be two NFC East teams, the Eagles and Commanders,

Speaker 1 that only leaves one spot for the NFC West.

Speaker 1 And that's tough. Because those are some, like, the Rams are tough.
The Cardinals are tough. The Seahawks, I don't fucking know what to make of them.
So it's more like the 49ers coming into this,

Speaker 1 like, because they've kind of played with their food a little bit this year.

Speaker 1 They have to start winning some tough games coming up.

Speaker 7 But that's what we talked about with Kyle Shanahan after the buy. He's true.

Speaker 1 True. I shouldn't doubt him.

Speaker 7 The breakdown was, I think, their 40% winning percentage before the buy, and then 70% after the buy, which is crazy. And this game actually might be the one that we point to at the end of the season.

Speaker 7 Be like, that decided who that wildcard team was going to be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'll walk back my take. I still believe in the 49ers.
I more, I just watched this game.

Speaker 1 I was like, I did not think the Bucs were going to be able to hang with the Niners off the buy, and they somehow found a way. They did get that muff punt, which was big.

Speaker 1 That kind of turned the game in the second half.

Speaker 7 Baker does look like he has to use all of his energy on every pass.

Speaker 1 Every pass play. And

Speaker 7 he'll get almost sacked by three guys. He'll spin around in the pocket.
He'll scramble, somehow figure out a way to get a ball to a guy that's downfield that probably wasn't on the roster week one.

Speaker 7 So it looks like he's like maxing out effort every time.

Speaker 1 Not only that, but I feel like I can say the same for Rashad White and Bucky Irving. Yeah.
Every run, they feel like they have to max out all of their effort to get like five yards. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I guess this is a credit to Todd Bowles, but his defense keeps fucking up.

Speaker 7 He just loves blitzing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, also, shout out Ricky Pearsall scored his first touchdown in the NFL.

Speaker 7 That was very cool to see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very cool. Great play.
Yeah, I think Brock Purdy's getting really good. They got to pay him, right? That's going to be

Speaker 1 him this year.

Speaker 7 That's going to be such a fun conversation to have about Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 Do they have to pay him this year?

Speaker 7 He's going to want. Do you think he's going to want more money than Dak?

Speaker 1 I mean, he's better than Dak. Like, that's not even a question in my mind.
Would you?

Speaker 1 Is that a question in your mind?

Speaker 7 No, but is he going to get more money than Dak?

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, he should because he's better than him.

Speaker 1 What is his contract? How many more years? Is he a free agent this year?

Speaker 7 Let's see.

Speaker 1 He is a free agent after next year. So you got one more year where the window's wide open.
And then they got to pay him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Brock Purdy's really good. Bless you.
Bless you.

Speaker 1 Anything else in this game? Oh,

Speaker 1 I have two tweets that I bookmarked that I wanted to bring up.

Speaker 1 One is a Pro Bucks tweet. So this is from Greg Amon.

Speaker 1 He said,

Speaker 1 Bucks have averaged 30.7 points in the last six games, but are one and five in that stretch. In NFL history, there are 1,353 times a team has scored 180-plus points in a six-game span.

Speaker 1 Of those 1,353, only two teams managed to only win one game. The Bucs this year and the 2019 Bucs, the Jameis Bucs.

Speaker 7 Interesting.

Speaker 1 So they're playing well.

Speaker 7 Jameis, the reason for those is probably just Jameis. He probably did some fuck shit.

Speaker 1 He drew of picks, a lot of touchdowns.

Speaker 7 So, what would the

Speaker 7 reason be for this season?

Speaker 1 Their defense is bad. And Mike Evans got hurt.

Speaker 7 And their coach, maybe.

Speaker 1 But the fact that they're still scoring points about Mike Evans and Chris Cobwin is pretty crazy. The other stat.

Speaker 7 That's true. With Todd Bulls, he's a guy that will get your team ready to play.
Yeah. And then he'll probably screw something up in the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So this has never happened before, ever.

Speaker 1 Florida's FBS, FCS, and NFL teams are combined 0-11 on the same weekend.

Speaker 1 FBS, FAU, Florida, Miami, FSU, USF, UCF all lost. FCS,

Speaker 1 Famu,

Speaker 1 Bethune, and Stetson all lost. And in the NFL, the Jags and Bucs lost.
It's all up to the Dolphins on Monday night. That's a pretty crazy stat.

Speaker 7 So what's the call?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's never happened before.
0-11, they are. The state of Florida in football this weekend.

Speaker 7 I don't think they can go 0-12.

Speaker 1 I think you got to take them to go 0-12.

Speaker 1 History. It's a history game.
It's a history-defining game.

Speaker 1 History's at stake.

Speaker 7 They also extended Billy Napier, though. Or not extended, but announced that he's not being fired.
Yeah, he's not being fired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's not being fired.

Speaker 7 That could be counted as a loss, too.

Speaker 1 That could be huge. Okay, next game.
Saints 20, Falcons 17.

Speaker 1 Darren Rizzi. We told you.
The Rizzler. Darren Rizzi, he did it all.
He came to the stadium. He clogged the toilet.
Brought the boom. He said it was going to be a crappy day.
It wasn't a crappy day.

Speaker 1 The Saints played with passion, with fire. They blocked a field goal, which is he's a special teams coach.
And then he even got hurt

Speaker 1 after the game. He got a stinger and looked like he was losing all ability to walk.
I thought he had torn his ACL at one point. He said, no, he got a stinger.
He couldn't feel his entire left side.

Speaker 1 So his equilibrium was off.

Speaker 7 He was trying to back his guy off, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, no, he said, yeah, so Peyton Turner started spraying water on him

Speaker 1 before there was like 30 seconds left. And he's like, stop, stop.
We have to wait till zeros. And then I guess Peyton Turner came and hit him in the back.

Speaker 1 And he said that he had a history of stingers. So he just got another stinger and he looked like he was a baby deer at the end of the game.

Speaker 7 I love that. He was angry because they were celebrating the win too early.
Yeah. That's that's winning mentality.
Yeah. That's alpha male type shit.

Speaker 7 Getting to the stadium early, taking a shit so big that it clogs the toilet. Yeah.
That's marking your territory. I like that from the Brizzly.

Speaker 1 He was everything we wanted. He was the interim head coach, just everything you wanted, wrapped up into one, weird ears and all.
And Dennis Allen's got a...

Speaker 1 This should actually be another loss on Dennis Allen. I agree.

Speaker 7 I agree. This was it was a good start for him.
Who knows how long the interim coach bump lasts? I think we just got to bet him until it doesn't work, right?

Speaker 1 They play the Browns next week.

Speaker 1 You might get another week.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they added a warm-up. They stretched before the game.
They stretched before the game.

Speaker 7 That was pretty big. Yeah, changed the locker room.

Speaker 1 The defense had fight again because the defense has been really bad for the Saints.

Speaker 1 And yeah, they beat. I mean, that's a game they always want to win.
They hate the Falcons. So big win, and the Falcons are going to look and be like, what the fuck just happened?

Speaker 1 Because they are better than the Saints, but they weren't today. And Kirk Cousins was just kind of off all day.

Speaker 7 I think Kirk Cousins was

Speaker 7 exactly on for Kirk Cousins the way the game ended, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 It was classic Kirk Cousins. Yeah.
Check down on fourth down.

Speaker 7 It was like that Vikings tight end play all over again.

Speaker 7 He hasn't learned. No.
He never will learn.

Speaker 1 He has not learned. I mean, Bijan is still amazing.

Speaker 7 He's amazing. He's the best.
And Kirk being Kirk, I don't know if you saw the sack fumble that he had. I think the Falcons recovered, so it wasn't like a huge, huge game.

Speaker 1 Do you know who did that?

Speaker 1 Who's that? You know who sacked him.

Speaker 7 Strip sacked him.

Speaker 1 Who sacked him? Chase Young.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Chase Young. Chase Young has.

Speaker 1 He is your guy.

Speaker 7 When you see Kirk Cousins, we've said that he's the most sackable quarterback in the NFL, right? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think he's also the most fumble quarterback on a sack in the NFL. Yeah, but you know what?

Speaker 7 When someone's bearing down on Kirk, he does a good job when somebody's bearing down on him, when he throws it away and turtles at the same time. He's very good at the turtle, turnaway, throwaway.

Speaker 7 But when he gets hit, every time Kirk Cousins gets hit, I think he's going to drop the ball.

Speaker 1 But he also is really weirdly good at fumbling in his own orbit. Yeah.
He almost does like a he's almost dribbling a basketball. Yeah.
Where it comes right back to him.

Speaker 7 Bounces to him or bounces to his teammate. Yeah, exactly.
He doesn't lose a lot of them, but when I see a guy getting close to Kirk, I'm like, he's going to drop this ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to drop this ball.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 MVS, I didn't even know he was on the Saints. He got signed two weeks ago.
He had 100 yards and two touchdowns in the first half. That's huge.
Marquez Valding Scantling. Like, that was out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 If this was like four weeks earlier, I would say he's going to go back to the Chiefs.

They probably will find a way to get him back to the Chiefs. He'll just prove that he's good and then the Saints will cut him.
Yep.

Speaker 7 Also, three missed kicks by Koo. I was going to say,

Speaker 1 we should know better. We are knee-jerk reaction guys.
We said that NFL kickers are too good and they should make the

Speaker 1 uprights closer together. This was the week where everything starts to turn

Speaker 1 because we had missed kicks. Like Jake Moody went one for four.
Young Hoku went one for four.

Speaker 1 It feels like kicking is getting, you know, Justin Tucker missed a kick on Thursday Night Football, an extra point. Feels like kickers are coming back to just still fucking up every now and then.

Speaker 7 So what's the knock that we have historically had against kickers?

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 7 When you think of kickers, mentally weak. Mentally weak.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think that the discussion of kickers becoming so good and the threat, the looming threat of them narrowing the goalpost has made kickers fuck up more.

Speaker 1 They're like, we have to get in front of this. We have to start missing some kicks before they take this away from us.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it could be intentional. It could be they all got together and they're like, hey, we need to, they're going to fuck everybody over.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But yeah, which kickers suck again.

Speaker 7 Shout out to Koo for great solidarity. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did get one blocked.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I was pumped to see that. I just love interim head coaches.

Speaker 1 Whenever there's an interim head coach, I will dig deep on this person and find out if they fit the bill for an interim head coach that can get us a couple cheap wins.

Speaker 7 This was a double threat, too, because you not only had all the textbook stuff about Rizzy, but you also had the rivalry game. Yeah.
Like the very vicious...

Speaker 7 physical rivalry that these two teams have. I don't think that a team has swept the other in like eight years.
They always split this series.

Speaker 7 So when you combine the two of those, it felt like a nice bounce back for the Saints.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Saints, the Saints offense basically did it. It was a microcosm of their entire season.

Speaker 1 The first half, they looked awesome, and then they just sucked again for the second half, but their defense held on. And yeah,

Speaker 1 I think the Falcons, I don't know what to think of the Falcons. Actually, to be honest with you, I don't know what to think of the Falcons.

Speaker 7 I think they're a good team.

Speaker 1 I think they're a loser.

Speaker 7 You know what? They're fine.

Speaker 1 They're going to probably win the NFC South.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'd say most likely. Most likely.
I'd say that they're a fine team.

Speaker 4 Think if the Falcons and the Commanders were matched up in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I would take the Commanders. I would take the Commanders.

Speaker 1 I would be at the Falcons, most likely, because I don't think the Falcons are going to probably win the NFC South so they'd have a home playoff game.

Speaker 1 It would probably be Falcons like minus two.

Speaker 1 And I would take the Commanders on the field.

Speaker 7 I love that spot. I love that spot for us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good spot for you.

Speaker 1 Falcons got kind of a tough road, though, coming up. They have the Broncos, Chargers, and Vikings.

Speaker 1 Those are good defenses.

Speaker 7 I would rather play the Falcons on the road than the Eagles at home.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 That's where I'm at. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Bajan is still the best. Oh,

Speaker 1 we're watching Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 7 It is very confusing, though, how they decide to use Bajan and how they decide to use Algier. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Because there was that one goal line stand where it was just like, we're going to try our damnedest to get. Algier a touchdown.
We're going to hand the ball to him three times in a row.

Speaker 7 Then when our back's up against the wall, okay, fine, we'll get we'll let Robinson get in the game. Yeah, try to score a touchdown.
Yeah,

Speaker 7 if you're on the one-yard line, just let your best running back run it in.

Speaker 7 I know that you guys do the thing where you're trying to divvy up their workload, and okay, one drive for one guy, one drive for the other guy.

Speaker 7 But in that situation, just put fucking Bajan Robinson in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And the touchdown that he did score, he was kind of dead to rights, and he's just like, I'm faster than everyone.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Other two early games, Bills, 30, Colts, 20.

Speaker 1 I have to ask what the Colts are doing. What's the plan here now? Because

Speaker 1 you brought in Flacco. We love Flacco

Speaker 1 to make a playoff push. Euro and two now and Flacco starts.
I guess the plan is that you're still in a playoff push?

Speaker 7 I think it's like they wanted Richardson to learn from Flacco. And in a weird way, I feel like Flacco has learned from Richardson.
Oh. The first two picks, they were very Anthony Richardson-like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were bad. And he had a fumble as well.

Speaker 1 This was a game where I actually thought it was like a tough spot for the Bills because coming off the Dolphins win, they got the Chiefs on deck. And the Bills did play a little clunky.

Speaker 1 They just got four turnovers, and Josh Allen was not great at the start of the game. And then in the fourth quarter, he put together two 13-play drives and took the game away.

Speaker 7 I have a fun stat for you. Yeah.
Josh Allen has now tied O.J. Simpson for most Bills rushing touchdowns.
Oh, wow. How about that? Elite Company.
That is Elite Company.

Speaker 7 The Bills have been waiting for so long for that record to be able to get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Josh, that's going to be a big day when he brings it.

Speaker 7 They're probably going to put up like a permanent banner in the stadium.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I was taking notes before we sat down, and I was like, what is the plan? Why not just play Anthony Richardson? You're not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But they're still, right now, they're the eighth seed in the AFC. And obviously, the AC doesn't make the playoffs, but they're a couple wins away.

Speaker 1 So I guess you got to keep going for this playoff push thing.

Speaker 7 I guess you make the playoffs. you lose your first game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Bad draft pick.

Speaker 1 Rinse and repeat. Also, why, Shane Seichen, who I think is a good coach, why did you stop running with Jonathan Taylor in this game?

Speaker 7 Did he used to do this in Philly?

Speaker 1 What was up with that? I don't know. Jonathan Taylor had

Speaker 1 16 carries, 107 yards in the first half. In the second half, he had five carries for seven yards.
And it was a one-score game all the way into the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 It wasn't like the Bills ran away with it. It was 20 to 13, what felt like forever.

Speaker 7 Maybe he was tired. He ran so far.

Speaker 1 I don't know. That was weird.
That was very weird.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 I mean, you could say the same for the Bills because I feel like James Cook, the Bills should just run the ball more. They get a little cute, especially with Keon Cole,

Speaker 1 with Damari Cooper and Keon Coleman banged up. Like, run the ball more, dude.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's been the knock on the Bills for the last couple. I feel like Joe Brady is not a guy that loses sight of that.

Speaker 7 For the most part, he tries to remember, okay, it's not a bad thing to run the ball, even though you have Josh Allen. If the running game's working, stick with it.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 he only had eight carries in the first half, and Josh Allen was four for 10 for 25 yards and two picks on first down passes. Yeah.
Run the ball. You guys are a good running team.

Speaker 7 I mean, the Bills are playing pretty good for a team whose Super Bowl window is closed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. No, I actually like...

Speaker 1 I weirdly, it was kind of a sloppy win for the Bills, but I give them a lot of credit because I thought this was a bad spot for them, and they just take care of business.

Speaker 1 Like the the fourth quarter happened, like I said, it felt like the Bills had the ball for the entire fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 They went 13-play field goal drive, interception, 13-play touchdown drive, game over.

Speaker 7 Yeah, depending on what happens next week, I fully reserve the right to reverse this take and do a 180 on it.

Speaker 7 But I feel better about the Bills' chances in the postseason right now than I did, I think, at any point last year.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Bills should maybe try to lose this game so then they can beat them in the playoffs and they can avoid everyone being like, oh, you won your week 11 Super Bowl against the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 But I also think they're in that dangerous spot where every heartbreaking loss that Sean McDermott has to the Chiefs makes it more likely that he loses to the Chiefs again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think that the Chiefs being undefeated going in the playoffs, they have more pressure than yeah, so yeah, so I'm saying the Bills kind of sneaky might want to lose this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know they don't.

Speaker 1 I know this is the dumbest thought I've had.

Speaker 7 Is losing this game the Buffalo Bills Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 It might be smart because then you can kind of just be like...

Speaker 4 Start of the championship DVD.

Speaker 1 Start of the championship DVD. And people can't talk shit where they're like, oh, you beat them in the regular season, can't beat them in the playoffs.
Well, they avoid that.

Speaker 1 Well, no,

Speaker 1 they won't say that. You just can't beat them.
Now you just can't beat them. They beat them in the regular season, I think, last year, or maybe it was the year before.

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 7 if they lose the Chiefs, Hank's right, this is like, you definitely can't beat it. Nobody on that sideline truly believes that they can beat the Chiefs unless they see one go in.

Speaker 1 But that happened last year.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it didn't work out. No.

Speaker 1 But I think what Hank is saying is you really want the Chiefs to be undefeated because the pressure is going to get too high. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The pressure of an undefeated season

Speaker 4 and a three-peat is a lot.

Speaker 1 Is a shitload. That's guys playing real tight.
Hank, real tight.

Speaker 1 Hell's playing loose.

Speaker 7 Would you rather see the Chiefs go undefeated in the regular season and not win the Super Bowl or the Chiefs get beaten up and then win the Super Bowl? No.

Speaker 4 Undefeated, lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Means nothing.

Speaker 4 It means nothing.

Speaker 7 No, it means nothing. That season means nothing to you.

Speaker 4 No, it's just disappointing. It's a disappointing season.
It's like you want to say it's the greatest season of all time, but you can't. Yeah.
Because anyone could just say

Speaker 4 that.

Speaker 2 Is watching the Chiefs like your number one interest in football right now?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 What is? Earwashing Huskies?

Speaker 4 No, they're terrible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Womping. Womping.

Speaker 7 Pit football.

Speaker 4 I like, I like, I mean, the Bears, it's kind of over.

Speaker 4 I was enjoying the Commanders and Bears dynamics.

Speaker 4 And now I'm backing on the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Drake May. You were wrong about Drake May.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was. Not wanting him to play.

Speaker 4 I was. I was wrong.

Speaker 2 But, like, making sure the Chiefs don't.

Speaker 7 He's monitoring the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yes. Do you have an eye on the Chiefs at all times? No.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter till the playoffs. The Chiefs are like...
Mets. The Chiefs are like the Patriots where it's like their season doesn't start till the playoffs.

Speaker 4 And I think that if they're undefeated going into the start of the season,

Speaker 4 a lot more pressure. Got it.
And it would make a lot more pressure on me.

Speaker 2 So once the playoffs start, that's when your attention will turn to like Chiefs, all eyes.

Speaker 7 Make sure that the Chiefs don't seem to be. It's perfect.
Yeah. In a roundabout way, Hank is back to his old me, where it's like he doesn't pay attention until the playoffs start.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 But now it's just

Speaker 1 about the Chiefs. Yeah.
Yeah, but you're right, PFT for a reset year. The Bills are eating too.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And they're definitely a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do do think the Bills,

Speaker 1 they should try to win on Sunday against the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 You think so? Yeah, I think they should try.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking about it more because their one other... Was it Sunday night? What if that was the problem?

Speaker 7 What if they just were trying too hard? What if they don't try to win? They take Big Cat's advice and somehow they'll end up winning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to walk back my advice. I think they should try to win

Speaker 1 because their other big game this year was against the Ravens. They got killed.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 They got to prove it.

Speaker 1 They got to beat the Chiefs. That way, it's the three-way at the top

Speaker 1 where the Chiefs beat the Ravens, the Ravens beat the Bills, the Bills beat the Chiefs. And you could say, holy shit, it's wide open.

Speaker 7 And the Raiders.

Speaker 1 And the Raiders.

Speaker 1 And the Raiders. Okay, last early game.
Vikings 12, Jaguars 7.

Speaker 1 This was a hell of a game because the Vikings dominated this game to an insane level.

Speaker 1 And they won by five. They had 402 yards of offense to the Jaguars, 143.
They had 28 first downs to the Jaguars, 10.

Speaker 1 And the Vikings ran 82 offensive plays. 61 of them were in the Jaguars territory.
And you might say, why is it only 12-7? Well, Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 So Sam Darnold, he's the first QB to win without leading his offense to a touchdown and throw three picks since Rex Grossman in the famous Monday Night Football game against the Cardinals where he threw four picks.

Speaker 1 And he's also the first QB to throw three picks and have zero touchdown drives since Sam Darnold did it week nine, 2018, where he threw four picks against Brock Osweiler and the Dolphins.

Speaker 7 I like those stats where quarterbacks do something crazy and bad, and then you go back and you're like, oh, the only other time this happened was the same guy.

Speaker 7 They should rename that stat after him.

Speaker 1 The good news is the Vikings won, and their defense was

Speaker 1 like saved the day. The bad news is, if you're a Vikings fan, are you a little worried that Sam Darnold's turning back into a pumpkin?

Speaker 7 So you might have said this stat in a different way, but it was Chaps' sad jag stat of the week that the Vikings are the first team to win a game with zero touchdowns and three-plus turnovers since 2006.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because the Bears are who we thought they are. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Danny Green. Teams had lost 195 straight games before that.
Also, the way that the Jaguars lost this game at the end, this is another one of those probably a poorly coached football team mistakes.

Speaker 7 Yep. Where Trayvon Walker threw a punch after a third down stop.
Yep. Like, you did your job.

Speaker 1 He was wailing on him.

Speaker 7 You did your job.

Speaker 7 You got a turnover where you essentially have, I forget how much time was left, like a minute or so. Yeah.
But you had a chance to win the game. And then you're like, nah, fuck it.

Speaker 7 I'm just going to punch this guy real quick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was the Jags are just... I mean, Mac Jones,

Speaker 1 did he have three turnovers in the fourth quarter? You know, he had two picks and a fumble. He didn't look great.
He looked awful. He was terrible.
He looked awful in the

Speaker 7 Shell white helmets did not suit Mac Jones.

Speaker 1 He did have a 70-yard touchdown drive, and then all other drives, he had 73 yards total.

Speaker 7 Did Pete Prisco kill the Jaguars?

Speaker 1 He might have.

Speaker 7 I think he might have. I actually went back because they've been 3-13 in their last 16 games, the Jaguars have, after that hot start last year.

Speaker 7 The turnaround was when Trevor Lawrence got injured, and everybody thought, like, oh, shit, maybe a year he'll be out. We took his helmet off, and remember he had to walk to the training room?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I don't necessarily think he got severely injured on that hit that he took. I think the walk, something about the walk, the sad, slow walk that he made to the training room.
It ended it.

Speaker 7 From that point on, they're 3-13. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Doug Peterson is getting very testy. He said, a reporter asked what happened during the Mac Jones interception.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm not going to go through the details of the play because you guys wouldn't figure it out, but we'll look at the tape tomorrow.

Speaker 7 You guys wouldn't get it.

Speaker 4 I feel like the Jaguars are permanently 3-13 in their last 16.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 Except for that hot start.

Speaker 1 And those jerseys today, I know we discussed them on Friday. When seeing them in action, maybe it was the Mac Jones part of it.

Speaker 1 Not for me. It looked like a college team alternate.

Speaker 7 Two things. One, Mac Jones did not look as good as Trevor did.
Two, the blur really fooled us.

Speaker 1 The blur

Speaker 1 fucked us up.

Speaker 7 On the Photoshop. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And is Trevor Lawrence going to be out for a while now?

Speaker 7 Because it felt like it was a

Speaker 7 Thursday decision? Friday decision? Yeah, but

Speaker 1 I think I saw a a report that he's getting a second opinion, which second opinions are never good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you don't get a second opinion if your first doctor tells you something good. He's like, you don't have herpes.
Well, let me check with somebody else.

Speaker 1 Credits to Trevor Lawrence, I guess, because he's not been great this year, but it could get worse. Yeah.
It could be Mac Jones.

Speaker 7 By the way, if you get a second opinion on an injury and the second doctor tells you something completely different, you got to fire that first doctor, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it's kind of you just keep asking people to hoping that someone's going to say you're okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He could miss the rest of the season with serious AC joint sprain per Diana Rossini.

Speaker 7 What do you think about that, memes?

Speaker 1 Fugesi.

Speaker 7 Fugazi. Oh.

Speaker 1 So you don't think he's actually injured? No, they probably just sent him out because they're out of playoff contention.

Speaker 7 She did say the other day that when she posts anti-Jets news, like Jets, news that

Speaker 7 Jets fans will find disappointing, she thinks about memes before she sends it.

Speaker 7 Do you like that, memes?

Speaker 1 That's actually kind of cute, memes. It's some extrange, but sure.
Nah, it's not that strange. You guys have a little thing.
You guys have a little, you know, it's a healthy rivalry.

Speaker 1 Back and forth going on. It's cute.
It's very cute. Yeah, it's whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if you're the Vikings. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You just got to hope and pray that Sam Darnold keeps it together a little bit.

Speaker 1 I'm not done believing.

Speaker 1 I'm not done believing, but the cracks have begun to show. Would you say that's fair? Yeah.

Speaker 7 But if the cracks are showing and they're winning games, are they even really a crack?

Speaker 4 Bears could be the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they could. Probably not.
Yeah, if you get a bad Sam game. Brian Fuller's blitzing? Probably not.

Speaker 1 Probably not. Yeah, because, yes, Sunday Night Football, he was not great in the first half in that game, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 7 If you get a bad Sam game and you get away with a blatant face mask, you could win.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Maybe.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's. Oh, also, shout out the Vikings' new kicker, John Parker Romo.
Yeah. He's signed off the street four for four.

Speaker 7 JP Romo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 JP Romo. I don't know.
I just like that they found a guy off the street. He was just tossing around.
I think he was on a bunch of practice squads. I think he was out of a job for a while.

Speaker 1 Good for JP Romo.

Speaker 7 My husband cannot hold the ball and kick the ball at the same time.

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Speaker 1 Okay, afternoon games.

Speaker 1 One of the worst slates of afternoon games, I mean, we've talked about this a million times, but doing three games, you just leave yourself open to exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 All three games pretty much were

Speaker 1 non-competitive and shitty. But we got to talk about them because there are big storylines coming out of it.
Chargers 27, Titans 17.

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert is so good. He's so goddamn good.
I know his numbers.

Speaker 1 He was 14 for 18 for 164 yards, but he was breaking ankles, and this team is just playing hardball ball where he doesn't make mistakes.

Speaker 7 Can I tell you one thing that his numbers are elite at?

Speaker 7 Interceptions. Yeah.
So he does not throw interceptions. Going into this game, Justin Herbert was tied for third-lowest interception rate in NFL history.
You know who he was tied with?

Speaker 1 Brady. Aaron Rodgers.
Brady, Burrow, Mahomes, Colin Kaepernick. Oh.
Create wild list.

Speaker 7 Now he's in third all alone after this game. Second place, Aaron Rodgers.
Yep. First place, you'll never get this in a million years.

Speaker 7 Hank, maybe, maybe Hank will get it.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 year?

Speaker 1 Jacoby Brissette. Ah, yeah.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 7 But yeah, he doesn't turn the ball over. I don't think he's thrown an interception.

Speaker 1 Since week two. Week two.
Week two was the last time he threw an interception. He's playing hardball ball.

Speaker 7 I feel like he doesn't want to let hardball down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's basically like they have their system. Their defense is elite.
Their defense has 18 sacks in the last three games.

Speaker 1 They also are leading the leagues in points per game allowed at 13.1. The next closest is the Steelers at 16.2.
They just have the formula. They have the formula down.

Speaker 1 And Justin Herbert is like,

Speaker 1 it's nice seeing a guy who we thought was good, who maybe didn't have the win-loss record that you'd expect to have a really good defense now backing him up where i think it's it's something ridiculous where it's like like 35 and and like six or seven uh the justin herbert uh his record when his defense allows 24 points or less in a game uh also justin herbert i think we have to start calling him beast now yeah because jim harbaugh said that should be his name from now on is beast herbert yeah great beast herbert great nickname by coach harbaugh yeah he's uh he yeah i mean i don't i i know we do this every week but harbaugh makes me laugh every single week.

Speaker 1 Did you, Max, can you pull it up? Oh, Max walked out. He was just walking out.
Can you pull up the

Speaker 1 I tweeted it, but Harbaugh, it's as simple as having the entire team high-five. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It looks like the most fun ever. So watch this clip.
Hold on. Go to the start.

Speaker 1 We can't hear anything.

Speaker 1 And we got to start doing this.

Speaker 7 High fives. Bring back the high fives.

Speaker 1 And then they just go around high-fiving each other.

Speaker 7 That's awesome. Dudes, rock.

Speaker 1 We got to start doing this in the office. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Shout out, was it Dusty Baker? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, Dusty Baker invented the high five. Hey, give everybody a high five.
And it's just, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 7 that's the human-body-loving contact right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the team is rolling. They have a formula, and it works perfectly.
And, yeah, they're just a good team. Now, for the Titans, Will Levis was back.
Didn't have a catastrophic turnover.

Speaker 1 Also, this game kind of turned when Herbert had the fumble that was a return for a touchdown, then it was ruled not a fumble.

Speaker 1 I don't really know. I feel like they might have gotten it right, but I understand if Titans fans were upset about that.

Speaker 1 Also, I found out that I think one of the rules guys in the NFL, his last name is Butterworth, which that's kind of funny. That is very cool.

Speaker 1 Because there was like a pool report, and Butterworth had to explain what they saw in that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no doi-doy plays for Will Levis. The Titans have a problem where their defense is also good,

Speaker 1 but they play a good half of football, and that's about it because this season they're being outscored 125 to 53 in the second half.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's an issue for them. It seems like they get frustrated when they're the only unit that's out there going.
Calvin Ridley did play well today, though. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Again, Calvin Ridley, he's emerged in the second, I guess, the second half of the first half of the season.

Speaker 1 DeAndre Hopkins just needed to be traded. Hopkins has been traded.
And he needed to complain publicly.

Speaker 7 He needed to know. He's the kind of guy that needs to know he's the guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He had to very publicly complain for it to work out. But yeah, I'm just impressed with the Chargers.

Speaker 1 And yes, a lot of it is jealousy because I think that Jim Harbaugh would go to any team and do this.

Speaker 1 I think probably, yeah.

Speaker 7 You think of any culture in the NFL, Harbaugh's going to turn around pretty quick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 7 who knows what the ultimate result's going to be? I could see the Chargers going to the Super Bowl in the next three years.

Speaker 1 I think I said AFC championship in the next three years.

Speaker 1 I believe that. I mean, Herbert's doing this with not like, it's not like he has an insane cast of characters.
I mean, Lab McConkey, who I like, Quentin Johnson, who

Speaker 1 everyone cast off, he's good now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, they get a couple more studs at wide receiver, and they'd be a very hard team to stop.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. That was a deep field goal.
We're watching the last five minutes of the Lions Texan games, which has been a pick fest.

Speaker 1 That was a bomb of a field goal to tie at 23-23. So, yeah, I'm impressed with the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Titans are kind of, they're in the camp of teams that are going to, bad teams that are going to keep playing hard.

Speaker 7 Did the Chargers or the Titans have any special teams mistakes today? I didn't see any.

Speaker 1 They did give up a big punt return.

Speaker 7 A big punt return. But not

Speaker 7 was it a touchdown?

Speaker 1 No, but it was,

Speaker 1 I'll get the exact yardage. By the way, our good friend coach Ron Rivera just texted me and said the Lions should be up by one right now.
I like that. Because they went for two.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 He hates two points.

Speaker 1 He really hates two-point conversions.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Titans, yeah, their special teams still suck.

Speaker 1 It still sucks. Let me find the exact...
I know it was

Speaker 1 in the second half, I want to say they gave a pretty big punt return that they're just good for one really bad situation every single,

Speaker 1 it feels like every single game. And we talked about it.
They have the second worst special teams unit of of all time.

Speaker 7 They have to play perfect on, like mistake-free on offense and mistake-free on special teams to have any chance in a game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it just doesn't happen for them. They just can't put the whole thing together.

Speaker 1 And it's just, yeah, it's hard. Oh, they missed a field goal.

Speaker 1 I did miss a field goal.

Speaker 7 I had a one-to-feel-old stat, or not really a stat, but just a thought today.

Speaker 7 Asante Samuel Jr. Yeah.
Right? So he's on the Chargers.

Speaker 7 I don't know what his career is going to look like, but I read a report about how this is probably going to be his last season with the Chargers.

Speaker 7 And I was like, well, how much longer is he going to be in the league? I started doing the math on it. He's only been the league, I think, three years.

Speaker 7 But within a few years, we're going to have a conversation about Asante Samuel Jr. maybe retiring from football.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And that's going to make me feel so much older than when Asante Samuel Jr. became a football player.

Speaker 1 My only note on Asante Samuel Jr. is that time I said that he was cooked, and then he had three interceptions in that playoff.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was funny.

Speaker 1 That was bad.

Speaker 1 That was instant and instantly bad. They had a 56-yard kickoff return E Chargers.
That's bad. That's pretty good.
You don't want to have that happen.

Speaker 1 That feels like not a good thing for how you want to play football. And yeah, their special team still sucks.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's do Eagles 34, Cowboys 6. Max.

Speaker 1 Absolutely kicking ass.

Speaker 1 That was a shit pumping. Womping.
Yeah, you womped him good. You whomped him good.

Speaker 7 You womped him into Trey Lance.

Speaker 1 You womped him into

Speaker 1 the main story being about the sun because we had CeeDee Lamb losing the ball an easy touchdown because Jerry Jones built his stadium where the sun just directly shines onto half of the field through like the lower part where it's really, really hard to see.

Speaker 7 Well, there's no way that they would know where the sun was going to be setting between the hours of 1 p.m. and 5 p.m.
every day. Yeah.

Speaker 7 They didn't know that you you could build a stadium facing north-south.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait.

Speaker 7 He did know. You did know that because it's happened for the last, depending on how old you think the Earth is, at least 60,000 years.

Speaker 1 And he got really mad at the reporters after, and he said that. He said, by the way, we know where the sun is going to be when we decide to flip the coin or not.

Speaker 1 We do know where this damn sun is going to be in our own stadium.

Speaker 1 And then someone asked if, why not put up the curtains over the window? He said, let's tear down the stadium.

Speaker 1 Well, let's tear the damn stadium down and build another one. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 That seemed like a

Speaker 1 curtains seemed like a fair point.

Speaker 7 You can't put curtains up.

Speaker 1 Tear down the whole stadium. You have to tear down.

Speaker 7 You don't know anything about building stadiums, big cat.

Speaker 7 You have to build it from the studs up if you want to install curtains.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then he said, everybody's got the same thing. Every team that comes in here has the same issues.
I'm saying the world knows where the sun is. You get to know that almost a year in advance.

Speaker 1 Someone asked me about the sun. What about the sun? Where's the moon?

Speaker 7 Yeah, where's the moon? What's next? I like the slippery slope argument in this.

Speaker 1 Was that Jerry Jones or Joe Biden?

Speaker 7 We're talking about the fucking sun. Where's the sun? He's like, next thing you guys are going to be asking me where the moon is.
Well, Jerry, the moon doesn't make a difference, Jerry.

Speaker 1 It's completely asinine that the sun in a dome stadium and the ability to put up curtains

Speaker 1 is this much of an impact in the game.

Speaker 7 Jerry Jones is as close as we'll get as Mr. Burns to an owner in the NFL, but Mr.
Burns knew at least how to block the sun out.

Speaker 1 Correct. And I also think.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's like,

Speaker 1 I think maybe he did fuck up building the stadium the way he he built it. Like I think he built it east-west

Speaker 1 and he should have been building it north. Like the end zone should be north-south.
Yeah. And he probably, they probably started building it.

Speaker 1 And by the time they were halfway done, he's like, wait, hold on a second. Did we fuck this up? And now he's, it feels like maybe they struck a chord.

Speaker 7 This is the second time this year, too, where it's had a serious impact on his own team being able to play. Yes.
And it's not like that's a home field advantage.

Speaker 7 It's not like this is Acroser Stadium, where you have a better sense of where the winds are blowing because you play there all the time. This is impacting both teams.

Speaker 7 And I guess they know how to manage the kickoffs and the coin flips so that they get less of the sun. Well, it didn't work out this time.

Speaker 7 It's very funny, though, that this is the conversation that we're having about the Cowboys. So funny.

Speaker 1 And the Cowboys are bad. They're bad.
I mean, without Dak Prescott, they're really bad.

Speaker 1 They couldn't do anything offensively. Trey Lance came in.
Trey Lance, by the way, congratulations. Trey Lance now has more pass attempts in high school, college, and NFL combined

Speaker 1 than Tom Brady's last season for the Bucs. Okay, that's cool.
So he just finally passed.

Speaker 7 He's learning.

Speaker 1 For one season of Tom Brady.

Speaker 7 Let the young man develop a little bit.

Speaker 7 I think it's funny because the Cowboys obviously did not play a particularly inspired brand of football today. They didn't play an entertaining style of football today.

Speaker 7 And you look at the schedule and you know that we're going to get more Cowboys games in primetime. They'll start.

Speaker 7 I think most people are like, fuck, I can't believe we have to watch the Cowboys in primetime.

Speaker 7 I actually think the opposite.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I kind of like watching the Cowboys in primetime when they're at this stage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you know Jerry's going to get really upset.

Speaker 7 He's going to scream about the sun at some point.

Speaker 1 This is good for America.

Speaker 7 We're at each other's throats all the time. We hate each other.
Let's give ourselves something to unite behind. And I feel like laughing at the Cowboys is just good for vibes in this country.

Speaker 7 Yeah, agreed. So maybe flex them into more primetime games.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And by the way, shout out Saquon.
He had never beaten the Cowboys. He was 0-10.
He now has beating the Cowboys. 0-10 with the Giants against the Cowboys.
Max, let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling? I mean, your defense is playing well.

Speaker 1 I know it's Cooper Rush and Trey Lance, but still, it feels like the Vic Fangio system is starting to take hold, and your offense looked great.

Speaker 1 That drive at the end of the first half was like, that was the game, basically. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Everything looks good. I mean...

Speaker 2 Past four games, 28 points, 37 points, 28 points, 34 points. Look at that.
Offense looks great. Defense looks great.

Speaker 2 A couple bad turnovers in the first half, but he cleaned it up in the second half and just beat the shit out of a team.

Speaker 12 That sucks.

Speaker 7 Jalen looked healthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He looked healthy. Did you see the controversy about the injury report this week?

Speaker 12 Yep. That was Sirian.

Speaker 2 Siriani, good coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to ask you.

Speaker 1 What was the controversy?

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, I want to hear. You didn't really answer the question.
You just kind of... mumbled a few words and then said Siriani, good coach.

Speaker 2 Because it was such a stupid thing for him to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so he just told him.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so what happened was

Speaker 7 they asked him about Jalen Hurts and how he didn't practice. I think that was on Wednesday this week.
And the question was, we haven't seen Jalen Hurts be held back for load management before.

Speaker 7 What was behind that decision on Wednesday? And Sirianni said, yeah, he was dealing with, it was on the injury report.

Speaker 7 He was dealing with the ankle, you know, just making sure we're precautious with everything. And then the reporter said, Jalen Hurts wasn't on the injury list with an ankle.

Speaker 1 And then Siriani goes, what was that?

Speaker 7 That was a rest. Yeah, sorry.
I thought you were talking about somebody else. And then they said, is Jalen Hurts dealing with an ankle problem? And he said, no, it's rest.

Speaker 1 That's great. He just.

Speaker 1 Sir, the question was, is this your handwriting? I misspoke. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So, Max, he did look healthy, though, today. Yeah, like watching him play, I was like, maybe it was load management.
Maybe Siriani is just an idiot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, this was one of those games. I guess it got a little stressful there in the beginning.

Speaker 2 Hank was being an asshole.

Speaker 7 I think Hank was being a new piece of pen. He was being Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was just being Hank.

Speaker 7 He's cheering on the boys. He can't exist.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can't exist.

Speaker 2 By the time the second half came around.

Speaker 7 You stood up and told me to suck your dick.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1 And you almost made memes suck your dick.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you stood up.

Speaker 1 It was like in meme's face. He touched your penis.

Speaker 1 I apologize.

Speaker 2 I regretted doing that.

Speaker 2 If I could take it back, I would.

Speaker 4 I was rooting for my cowboys, and you made it personal.

Speaker 1 They're not your Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Did you bet on them? Yeah.

Speaker 7 They're his Cowboys. Well,

Speaker 1 Hank has been to a playoff Cowboys game more recently than you've been to a playoff Eagles game. I've never been to a playoff.
Oh, wow. I rest my case.

Speaker 1 Fair.

Speaker 1 Wait, that's not true. I've been to the Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's a pretty big playoff time.

Speaker 2 I was thinking at the link.

Speaker 1 I got a question for you,

Speaker 1 Max. Is it time to give Nick Siriani a contract extension? He's coaching good football right now.
He is 41 and 19 as the Eagles head coach. 20 of those wins by 10 points or more, so almost half.

Speaker 1 He also is the first Eagles head coach to begin with

Speaker 1 three seasons with a record seven or two or better in three consecutive seasons. He's a really good coach.
I think you got to lock him up long term.

Speaker 7 I always like to ask this question, Piquette. If he was on the open market right now,

Speaker 1 how quickly would another team snatch him up? That fast. Wouldn't he be able to get it out of your mouth?

Speaker 7 I mean, you'd kill to have him on the Bears.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kidding me?

Speaker 1 I really like that. Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I like the way. He was winning the Super Bowl.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He gets the guys ready for the game.

Speaker 1 There we go. What are you like driving the bus to the stadium?

Speaker 2 No, he gets the team in a position to win

Speaker 1 pre-game. Okay.
I said

Speaker 2 I would never complain about him for the rest of the year, and I won't.

Speaker 1 I think he's a good coach.

Speaker 7 You have nothing to complain about today.

Speaker 1 So, contract extension.

Speaker 1 Okay. We need a contract extension for Nick Siriani.
Lock him up.

Speaker 7 Now, as for the Cowboys,

Speaker 7 I don't know what they do. It sounds like Dak is going to be out for the rest of the year.
He is.

Speaker 1 He's got seasoned injury, yeah.

Speaker 7 He's getting surgery on the hamstrings. So they're either going to stick with Cooper Rush or they're going to bring in the weirdest.

Speaker 7 I don't know how they made the decision of now it's time to put Trey Lance in the game at this point.

Speaker 1 I think they're just in a fucking.

Speaker 7 It was like the saddest spark ever because he just put him in for two plays. Yeah.
One of, they were both rushing plays, right? Yeah. He just ran the ball up the middle.

Speaker 7 No, he came in, I think that was later. Yeah, later, yeah.
He initially put him in for a two-play shot in the arm. Yeah.
And he did like a draw and then a handoff.

Speaker 7 And then they're like, okay, get the fuck out of the game, Trey Lance. We don't need you anymore.
Yeah, scram. I don't really know what they're doing with them at this point.

Speaker 7 I don't know what they're doing with their entire setup that they have going because they were

Speaker 7 not a good team when when Dak was playing, but you could have convinced me that they would have been able to figure it out because Dak has a history of showing up and putting some points on the board with CeeDee Lamb.

Speaker 7 You could have convinced me that they would have been able to put together a little bit of a run. But now it feels like the run isn't even an issue.

Speaker 1 No, there's no run coming. Not on the table.
There's no run coming.

Speaker 1 In a weird way, I feel like this is like...

Speaker 1 Almost good for Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones, the whole Cowboys organization because they can just say it was Dak.

Speaker 1 Even though we know the truth, they were bad before Dak got hurt, but they can say lost season because of Dak.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it is a good scapegoat for Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Right, for sure. It's like, yeah, Dak got hurt.
If Dak didn't get hurt, none of this would have happened. But in reality, it was already happening because Dak already was, you know, not playing well.

Speaker 1 And the Cowboys as a whole were not playing well.

Speaker 7 Yeah, McCarthy can definitely gaslight the shit out of that and say. that we were on the cusp of turning the season around.

Speaker 1 Also, the Cowboys are one of those teams where, like, they have three guys that if any of them get hurt, they're fucked. Michael Parsons getting hurt, fucked him for that stretch.

Speaker 7 Now Parsons is back. Yeah.
And

Speaker 7 I kind of feel bad for him because he's going to have to be out there doing it on his own. Yeah.
And they're not going to get wins and he's going to be frustrated.

Speaker 7 I can't wait for his podcast, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great. By the way, Kyle Fairbairn is attempting a 58-yarder.

Speaker 7 Why do you notice?

Speaker 1 He missed it. Yeah, that's stupid.
Go for that. Now the Lions can turn around.

Speaker 2 That was so dumb.

Speaker 1 That was really stupid.

Speaker 7 Dan Campbell would have gone for it.

Speaker 1 Dan Campbell would have gone for it. The Lions are going to win this game, and they looked so bad in the first half, but they're just, that's just what they do.
They're just a good team.

Speaker 1 A really good team.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Last game. Cardinals 31 Jets 6.

Speaker 1 Now, before we get to memes, I would like to talk about the Arizona Cardinals and the fact that this team is for real and they're playing incredible ball.

Speaker 1 I think this is their fourth straight win, five out of the last six. They have not allowed a touchdown in two straight games.
They've not allowed him a touchdown in three out of their last four games.

Speaker 1 Their defense is playing well, and Kyler Murray is awesome. He was incredible today.
22 for 24. The ball didn't hit the ground after the first quarter.
He was 17 for 17.

Speaker 1 Everything they wanted to do, they were able to do. He was great.
He was throwing it everywhere. He was making play, extending plays with his feet.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Cardinals, like, this is a tough team that believes in themselves. Also, Buddha Baker was everywhere.
He's just, he's an absolute heat-seeking missile.

Speaker 1 I'm impressed with the Cardinals. I think they're really good.
By the way, the stats on Kyler Murray going 17 for 17, one in 408 chance, statistically.

Speaker 7 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 The chance of him getting, of having 17 straight completions based on the difficulty of the completions, one in 408.

Speaker 7 That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 Pretty impressive.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Kyler Murray is playing awesome right now. Also, Trey McBride.
Yeah. Somehow he never got brought into the baby Gronk conversation when we used to call every tight end.

Speaker 7 I mean, this is before the actual Baby Gronk. Yeah.
But every good young tight end was called Baby Gronk. Yeah.
Trey McBride is Baby Gronk. He's awesome.
He's that good.

Speaker 7 Also, we need to remind people that he used to play basketball. He did.
Yeah, he used to play basketball. We always had a bad player.
A tight end that played basketball?

Speaker 7 So maybe it's Baby Gates.

Speaker 1 Okay, Baby Gates.

Speaker 7 I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Baby Gates. I'm trying to think who else would have been.
Baby Gates makes

Speaker 7 baby Graham.

Speaker 1 Baby Graham. Baby Jimmy.

Speaker 7 But yeah, he's so fucking fun to watch. Baby Travis.
Jumping people over. Baby Travis.
Baby Travis. Baby Travis is cute.

Speaker 1 Because you don't really think of any baby's name Travis.

Speaker 7 No, you don't.

Speaker 1 Like if you had a baby and you're like, hey, here's my baby, it's Travis. Yeah.
That's a weird name for a baby.

Speaker 7 Baby Travis comes out of the birth canal like it's a half pipe on a skateboard. Yeah, he's got it.
He's already smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 1 He's got a monster energy hat on.

Speaker 12 Ready to go.

Speaker 1 The minute he comes out.

Speaker 7 Now, some might call this an insult stat. So if it is memes, you can go earmuffs.

Speaker 1 He is boiling with rage right now.

Speaker 7 For the Jets.

Speaker 1 Look at his face.

Speaker 7 He's mad. We're just going to update it.
We're going to update the stat real quick. During the Zach Wilson era,

Speaker 7 through this point in the season, 10 games, the Jets averaged 176 points and 2,103 passing yards. That's a three-season sample right there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 The 2024 Jets have scored 177 points and thrown for 2,117 passing yards. So they do have 14 more passing yards and one more point.

Speaker 1 Zach Wilson was bad. He's got the points.
What do you mean? Defense special teams. Oh, good point.

Speaker 1 He's calling you a Rossini. You know what?

Speaker 1 He's calling you a Rossini.

Speaker 7 I don't have a breakdown of the points.

Speaker 1 But the yards are very similar.

Speaker 10 The yards are similar, but the points are similar.

Speaker 1 Well, it's 14 more.

Speaker 7 14 more yards.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 14 more. I know for a fact the touchdowns are

Speaker 1 the Zach Wilson era was defense special team. Okay.

Speaker 7 Okay, defense touchdowns.

Speaker 7 Top five, defense.

Speaker 1 Memes, I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Terms apply.

Speaker 1 Memes.

Speaker 1 The Jets season is fill in the blank. It's over.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So we're good. Yeah, we're good.
It's over. We didn't even show up.
Went out very, very sad. Both of our seasons ended in Arizona.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's sad, and we only had two opportunities to even be in this game today, which is even sadder.

Speaker 1 It was a tackle that Ahmaud Gardner couldn't make, and then the touchdown that Devontae Adams dropped, and that was it.

Speaker 7 Memes, I have a question. Yeah.
I want to take your side on something. What was the call for the illegal snap?

Speaker 1 We had the sound off, so I'm guessing it was just an inadvertent whistle that the refs were just like, that's on us.

Speaker 1 But according to Gene Sterator, he said that the Jets were offside, and we should have got called for it. Got it.
Memes, I got a question. Yep.
I noticed you called him Ahmad Gardner. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you've stripped him of his sauce. His name's gone.
You've stripped him of his sauce. He's not good enough anymore.
Do you think that Ahmad Gardner, formerly known as Sauce Gardner,

Speaker 1 has maybe suffered from Henry Lockwood?

Speaker 4 Dude, this is coming.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it's true.

Speaker 1 Guy gets obsessed with golf, golfs so much, loses his powers at his job. job.

Speaker 1 I think so. And the big contracts that were out there in preseason got to his head being like, oh, I'm going to make this much money.
And then

Speaker 7 you think he got fat, happy, and complacent based on other people's contracts.

Speaker 1 Yes, and the fact that he was all pro the first two seasons. And what about Henry Lockwood disease?

Speaker 4 Men can't have hobbies anymore. It's sad.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, it's just... He's playing so much golf.
If golf gets in the way of your job, I think it's something like you'd be able to get. That hasn't gotten the way.

Speaker 1 With Maud Solomon, we're talking about

Speaker 1 quarterback for the day. We're talking about Ahmaud Gardner.
They're on the field. We're not talking about you.

Speaker 4 They're showing up on the field every week.

Speaker 1 We're not talking about you.

Speaker 1 We're talking about Ahmaud Gardner.

Speaker 4 He's playing every week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because he plays playing well.

Speaker 1 So is that the ⁇

Speaker 1 if you get obsessed with golf, all you got to do is show up?

Speaker 4 I don't see the correlation.

Speaker 7 Well, he started playing poorly after he started playing golf.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Similar to you

Speaker 4 started playing poorly after you started playing golf. No, he could have played golf as much as he played golf, and there's probably people that play way more golf than he does.

Speaker 7 He just

Speaker 4 happened to share it on social media because he was trying to engage with the fans of his team.

Speaker 7 Oh, so he's doing it for his job.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 the mistake was posting about it. Got it.
If you're going to have a hobby, never share it because people will just hold it against you for as long as you live.

Speaker 7 Can you offer some tips to him on how to golf and not get caught golfing?

Speaker 4 Just do what you do and enjoy it for yourself and don't, you know, let bring other people in.

Speaker 4 Even though you think it might be nice to share with people like what you enjoy doing, they're going to hold it against you in the future.

Speaker 7 So maybe, like, don't, maybe stop updating all your rounds onto 18 birdies.

Speaker 1 Do you think Ahmad Gardner ever went up to Robert Salah over the summer and was like, hey, do you need me for practice this afternoon? Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 Do you think he messed up his hips?

Speaker 7 Are his hips as fluid as they were?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good point.

Speaker 7 I don't think his hips are as fluid.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the issue is.

Speaker 4 I blame the coach.

Speaker 1 The Jets are bad.

Speaker 4 I blame the leadership.

Speaker 1 The Jets are bad. This is...

Speaker 1 Should Aaron Rodgers retire?

Speaker 7 Is he going to?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Should he?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. The Lions just won.

Speaker 1 Ridiculous.

Speaker 7 Lions are invincible. Two.

Speaker 7 That's crazy. You win a game, throw five interceptions.

Speaker 7 That must feel pretty good. Like, what a relief that is.

Speaker 7 Like, get away with a crime.

Speaker 1 They played like dog shit. I mean, Jared had five interceptions.

Speaker 1 Mark of a really good team.

Speaker 1 All right, so

Speaker 1 should Aaron Rodgers retire?

Speaker 7 Should he play for the rest of the season?

Speaker 1 I think so. Well, if this is his last season, I'm dumb with everybody on the team, but he should just play it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he should retire. Just retire.
Wait, right now? Not right now.

Speaker 1 Play out your last year. Have catch with your buddy Devontae.
Okay. And that's it.

Speaker 1 Get rid of everybody. Get rid of everybody.
It'd be funny

Speaker 7 if he retired during a game.

Speaker 1 That would be the most Aaron Rodgers thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very much.

Speaker 1 He could retire on McAfee's show on Tuesday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes. I mean, listen,

Speaker 1 you said it when we were talking about the Bears. We're the same.
The exact same. You're, I mean,

Speaker 1 like, I actually don't even, I don't know if we're behind you now or ahead of you because we have a quarterback, but he's been bad and probably ruined.

Speaker 1 So we still need, like, but you're going to get rid of Rodgers, then you're going to start a new quarterback. I don't even know where.

Speaker 7 So history says for the Jets, we get rid of Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 He goes to the Vikings. Yeah.
We go to back-to-back AFC championship games and then restart again.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You'd trade for that. I'll trade for that in a second.
Yeah. What were you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 4 What if we just do a trade?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 Caleb Williams, Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Fresh start for both.

Speaker 1 I don't want Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's old, dude.

Speaker 1 He had one completion over 10 air yards for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 7 Okay, so how about this, memes? Season comes to an end. Rodgers says, please trade me to the Minnesota Vikings.
I want to go out like Brett Favre did.

Speaker 7 And you trade him for Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 Sam Donald's a free agent next year.

Speaker 7 Okay, you bring in Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 No, I toyed with that idea to my friends. They told me to fuck off.

Speaker 7 But no, but you wanted it.

Speaker 10 You toyed with it.

Speaker 1 For a second, but then today was just a... That's what he would be on the Jets.

Speaker 7 But what if he came back and he was good, Sam?

Speaker 1 He won't.

Speaker 1 He just won't.

Speaker 1 We need a coach. We need Mike Grable.
Yeah, so can we pull up memes tweets from the game? Because he was firing off. He was in his feels.
I saw one where it was like, you should have just hired this.

Speaker 1 You should have just had this dickhead be the interim. And it was a picture of Nathaniel Hackett.

Speaker 7 I actually don't hate that take. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, it would have just been easier. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It would have been so much easier. Let's see.
All right, so here's one. Hey, Kev, how was your weekend? And then it's

Speaker 1 Frank from Always Sunny just hanging

Speaker 1 by a rope with the Jets jersey on. Then the next one is should have just made this fucking idiot interim just so everyone could have hated him him instead of Jeff.
That's Nathaniel Hackett.

Speaker 1 That's just a retweet.

Speaker 7 Bobby Boucher have a Bobby Boucher parody account.

Speaker 2 Wait, you have a retweet from himself.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 You have a burner?

Speaker 7 Yeah, for videos.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it says, this is the worst Jets defensive performance of all time. Clean house, fire every single person, release every single guy in a one-year deal.
See what the

Speaker 1 Youngs got.

Speaker 1 Say young guys. Young's got and restart season over.
Why? You didn't want to do that on your main? No.

Speaker 1 Well, it's a meme account. You got to post a meme.
I didn't have anything for that.

Speaker 1 We had three drives. It was a meme.
And then for a mod gardener, he said, keep golfing, guy.

Speaker 1 That's brutal.

Speaker 1 Hank, you got to stand up for him.

Speaker 1 You got to stand up for a mod guy. I can't believe you took away the sauce nickname.

Speaker 7 Oh, then you got a model plane crashing?

Speaker 1 A model plane just blowing up. That's a vegan.
That's a model jet.

Speaker 7 That plane is a vegan made by Saab.

Speaker 1 You got

Speaker 1 speaking fluent German if you think we fucking me. And that was Shane.

Speaker 1 Hocketly.

Speaker 1 All right, memes. Well, here's a stat.

Speaker 1 Most losses since the start of the 2017 season.

Speaker 1 Jets 86, Giants, 85.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. Joke of a city.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 171 losses since the start of 2017 between the two teams. That's crazy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's the thing that always fools you about the Giants. So the Giants, I would trade positions in a second with what the Giants have.
Two Super Bowls, yes.

Speaker 7 Two Super Bowls, and then you go through years and years of ass, but you still have those two Super Bowls against one of the most successful dynasties of all time.

Speaker 7 We'll wait to see if they are the most after the Chiefs. But I would trade that in a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, easily. But you're right.
The Giants have fooled everyone because they won those two Super Bowls and their historic franchise. They have been so ass for so long now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Asvil. It's Asville.

Speaker 7 So what do you say that you should do with Sauce? Or excuse me, you don't call him Sauce anymore. You call him Ahmad.
Gravy Gardener because he's from New Jersey.

Speaker 1 For a second, I thought that was a different player. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that's him. So what do you do? He's got to earn his second contract.
Got to get in the weight room. You got to break down film.
You got to learn. Got to get better.
What about the simulator?

Speaker 1 Simulator. You got to burn it to the ground.
Okay. No golf.

Speaker 1 Put in your next contract no golf you get to watch golf he's actually a really good golfer too he learned and got really good really fast yeah no he's sick so i guess he's not like hank

Speaker 1 or he could golf just no no streaming no streaming there he had a moment over the summer where he was just on every single person's live stream oh like every single sounds like he's got hobbies Too many hobbies, less hobbies, football.

Speaker 7 So even in the offseason, no golf.

Speaker 1 Just football.

Speaker 7 All football all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we need an all-pro corner.

Speaker 7 I do love the take, though, that he got bad because other cornerbacks got paid.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And he got pre-lazed. Pocket watching.
He got pre-lazed.

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm going to make $100 million.

Speaker 1 But that's not the case anymore. So now you've got to get back in the film room.
No golf. Pocket watching.

Speaker 1 Okay. Sunday night football.
We just watched the end. I don't think I've ever seen his field goal be as close to hitting the upright and not hit the upright.
The last two, I think.

Speaker 7 The last two, yeah. And they were on opposite sides.
See, one right, one left.

Speaker 1 That was.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Lions were down 16,

Speaker 1 and they had five interceptions. Jared was off all night, and they win the game.
Mark of a really good team.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't know what to make of the Texans because you shouldn't lose a game when you're up 16 at home and you have five interceptions.

Speaker 7 No, it's going to look very bad for them. And in the first half, Jared Goff, like, there was something up about, he didn't look comfortable.
Obviously, they were hitting him a little bit.

Speaker 7 They were putting a lot of pressure on him.

Speaker 7 But sometimes, even when he had clean pockets, he was like throwing him into the ground, ducking away early on throw, something that he hasn't done all season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Texans' defense is very good, and it felt like they made a very concerted effort to make Jared throw and try and try to bottle up the running game as much as they could.

Speaker 1 And they did a pretty good job doing it because the Lions only had 3.3 yards per carry, which is very low for a team like that. And

Speaker 1 it did feel like Jared had to throw a ton of times, and

Speaker 1 he was not good tonight, but wins a win. And the Lions team is just good.

Speaker 7 I think it's good for the team that they won this way in a weird way. Like, the fact that their defense got turnovers, their defense put them in a position where they played.

Speaker 7 Their defense played well in the second half. Their defense played really well when their offense was struggling is going to make, that's going to make things better going forward for that team.

Speaker 1 That first half, C.J. Stroud was absolutely slinging the rock.
It looked like everything was working. The Texans didn't score in the second half.
They did not score a point.

Speaker 1 The Lions, I mean, we had the perfect

Speaker 1 coaching interview when Dan Campbell started the second half. I was like, we need to get a turnover.
Boom, turnover. Unfortunately, Jared then threw a turnover back.

Speaker 1 But yeah, their defense bucked up and really good win for the Lions. And I don't, the Texans are going to win the AFC South because it's the AFC South.
I don't know. Maybe when

Speaker 1 they get Nico Collins back, we can see what they look like. Did you like the jerseys, by the way? I did.

Speaker 7 I did not like these. Oh, I actually like the Jaguar Shell Whites better than I like.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like the candy apple helmets.

Speaker 1 They looked fast.

Speaker 7 The battle red. Here's why I didn't like the battle red, big cat

Speaker 7 because it's against the Lions. I feel like you have to save those for an AFC opponent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. I just, I thought they looked,

Speaker 1 I thought their first half was because of their jerseys. Yeah.
Like, they came out flying everywhere.

Speaker 7 I actually liked the other ones, the dark ones that you didn't like. I like those on the Texans a little bit better.

Speaker 1 The H-Town Blues. The H-Town Blues.
The H-Town Blues. Yeah, the Lions are really good.

Speaker 1 I mean, let's do

Speaker 1 a quick,

Speaker 1 how many teams are you comfortable saying could win the Super Bowl right this second?

Speaker 7 Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Detroit Lions. Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's start with NFC. Detroit Lions.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Philadelphia Eagles. I think I'm going to say the Philadelphia Eagles.
No.

Speaker 1 Why? Why can't the Philadelphia Eagles win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 They can make a playoff run. They're not going to win the Super Bowl.
They're not going to beat the Chiefs. They're not going to beat the Bills.
They're not going to beat the Lions. Why?

Speaker 4 They don't have a good enough offense. They don't have a good enough defense.
They don't have a good enough coaching.

Speaker 2 Where is the deficiency on offense? And where is the deficiency on defense?

Speaker 1 You're getting grilled.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying in a matchup against the Lions.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait.

Speaker 2 The running back, the running game, the receivers, their offensive line.

Speaker 4 Jalen Hurts is dealing with an ankle.

Speaker 7 Yes, in the training room.

Speaker 1 It's a training room.

Speaker 4 Coaching matters. Yeah.
A lot.

Speaker 1 I would say that's the deficiency of of the Eagles. That is the deficiency.
No, you can't say that, Max.

Speaker 2 No, he's...

Speaker 1 You can't say that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, he's good.

Speaker 1 You want to get Mixon?

Speaker 1 I can't wait till Nick Siriani does something stupid. We're going to be live streaming.
We're doing a special Thursday night football Eagles Commanders in the PMT studio.

Speaker 1 I think Max will sit in my seat and I'll sit next to Hank on the couch.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you can't say anything bad about Nick Siriani.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'll throw the Eagles in there.

Speaker 7 I said the Eagles. I fully believe that given what they have on all, their roster is definitely good enough to do it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Big Vangio has completely changed this defense.

Speaker 7 Big Vangio's boss. I don't know about him.

Speaker 1 Any other teams in the NFC?

Speaker 1 I unfortunately think maybe the Packers.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
But I'm just saying. I'm not putting them on the bottom.
If Jordan Love gets healthy, I think they're going to be really good.

Speaker 7 I think the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I could see the Bucs making a run.

Speaker 1 They could beat the Eagles.

Speaker 1 They did.

Speaker 1 They killed you guys.

Speaker 1 He got you there. And then in the AFC, I think it's the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens.
Steelers. Steelers.

Speaker 1 Chargers?

Speaker 1 No. We put a future on them.

Speaker 7 I think that they could win a playoff game.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think the Steelers. No, I don't think the Texans.

Speaker 1 I think the Steelers are in that group.

Speaker 7 The Texans haven't looked as dominant this year ever as they did last year.

Speaker 1 No, their offense has been. been broken.
Like, their offense looked great in the first half, and then it went back to broken. Yeah, what if the Jets get it all turned around, though?

Speaker 1 Oh, what if the Jets get a pickup of someone who's out there?

Speaker 1 What if the Jets sign Le'Veon Bell?

Speaker 1 That'd be good. Dynamic.
Hmm. Jets might not.
Let's keep the Jets in there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Jets could still do it.

Speaker 7 They got Aaron freaking Rodgers. They got Aaron freaking Rodgers.
Aaron freaking Rodgers, man.

Speaker 1 Aaron freaking Rodgers.

Speaker 7 He chose them.

Speaker 1 And I do feel like after week 10, it feels like the playoff picture on both AFC and NFC is now. So there's seven playoff spots, obviously.
I think

Speaker 1 it's definitely whittled down to nine teams in the AFC.

Speaker 7 It cuts off at the Bengals.

Speaker 1 So Jets, Patriots, Dolphins, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Jaguars, all out.

Speaker 1 And I would say it's the same thing in the NFC. Where it's, I guess maybe the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 But the Bears, Cowboys, Saints, Panthers, Giants, all

Speaker 1 We'll see about the Seahawks and Bucs.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the NFC West is going to be just a rock fight between all four teams for the rest of the year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Henry, who's back of the week?

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is Coach K.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 This is mine, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Let's talk about it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The Lakers are struggling. There's been, you know, some turmoil early on with their season.
J.J. Reddick cussing out.
What's their record? They're five and four. They're about to be six and four.

Speaker 4 They're beating the Trailblazers right now in the fourth quarter. Okay.

Speaker 4 So LeBron tweeted on Sunday morning. I just woke up from having a dream.
I was playing for Duke for Coach K inside Cameron Indoor Stadium. That was exclamation point.
It was insane in there.

Speaker 4 Told Coach K it was an honor to suit up for him, and he said the same thing back to me.

Speaker 1 This is a dream. He's such a legend.

Speaker 4 Then it turned right into a concert. Snoop and Dre were performers, and they was doing the song the next episode.
The roof inside Cameron damn near came off. Ha ha.

Speaker 4 Then my alarm went off and I woke up.

Speaker 7 All right. So I think this is this.

Speaker 4 LeBron wants Coach K as the coach of the Lakers. Yeah.
JJ out.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 Because it was a dream. Coach K A knows about Duke, JJ's team.
Yep.

Speaker 7 Okay, so I got a question because when I read this, I thought a couple of things. One,

Speaker 7 it sounds like he's dreaming about Coach K being his coach, honestly.

Speaker 7 Two, he also might be lying about the dream and then using the whole I had a dream thing to say what he wanted to say in real life but do it under the pretense of explaining what his dream was. Yes.

Speaker 7 Which one, yeah, which one do you think is worse for J.J. Reddick? If he actually had a dream one or if he's lying about having a dream?

Speaker 1 I think you can't control your subconscious.

Speaker 1 I think he's thought about it like

Speaker 1 JJ, he obviously pushed for JJ to be the coach. And then

Speaker 1 things have not started well. I think he's going to ask for Coach K to come and be a mentor.
Not the head coach, but be a mentor on the side, like be one of JJ's assistant coaches.

Speaker 7 He's going to force a mentor onto his boss. Yes.
That's such a funny point.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to happen. I think there's going to be a point in the season where maybe he won't sit on the sideline, but Coach K is definitely going to have to come visit and do like speeches and

Speaker 1 try to get the boys going.

Speaker 4 Like Jeff Van Gundy, kind of.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 He's part of organizations and around the team.

Speaker 1 He's actually an assistant coach now.

Speaker 4 Right, but like when he left ESBN,

Speaker 4 he was with the Celtics, but he wasn't an official assistant.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he was a consultant like Doc, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, Doc.

Speaker 7 Like Doc Rivers.

Speaker 1 Currently with the Bucs.

Speaker 7 Currently with the Bucs, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he's currently consulting with the Bucs. He's not head coaching them.

Speaker 7 No, but Doc, that's... No, I know.

Speaker 1 I'm joking.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 They're bad.

Speaker 7 That is literally what he did. Yeah.

Speaker 7 What's maybe the biggest lie in this is when he said, told Coach K it was an honor to suit up for him, and he said the same thing back to me. Like, they definitely kissed in the stream.
Yes.

Speaker 7 And that's what he wrote instead of the kiss.

Speaker 1 He probably was wearing, yeah, he's wearing a Duke jersey, probably two kids.

Speaker 4 I also don't even know what that means. Like, is that like a situation, like, when you're, you know, getting on a flight and the lady at the counter says, hey, have a nice flight.

Speaker 4 And out of instinct, you say, oh, you too.

Speaker 4 Like, he said, it's an honor to coach, suit up for you, coach. And Coach K was like, you too, LeBron.
It's an honor to suit up for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, put the suit on. Yeah, like, that doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 7 Yeah, was he wearing the necktie and the the jacket or was he wearing the like late stage late model coach it's an honor to suit up as your coach yeah yes he was wearing like a lebron jersey yeah and then the i mean the concert afterwards only lebron i mean that's also something if you were making up a lie like you throw in a little bit of a an extra wrinkle to like throw people off the scent and also because he probably realized when he tweeted this out he's like that didn't really wrap up my story that well i need to like include something else to make it a banger to go out he's like oh also snoop and dre were there.

Speaker 7 And then the roof came off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's, I mean, it's very, it's just very funny that he hand-selected J.J. Reddick and we're 11 games in.
And again, whether it's subconscious or he's just lying,

Speaker 1 he wants Coach K.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So fast.

Speaker 1 Only LeBron.

Speaker 7 I think maybe he had this dream a while ago, a long time ago. Yeah.
And then he just brought it up now because he wants to put the screws to J.J. LeBron to make him feel the heat.

Speaker 7 I fully believe that LeBron had a dream where he thanked Coach K and then Coach K thanked him back. Yes.
At some point, that happened. But I just don't think it was last night that it happened.

Speaker 1 All right, so that was your who's back as well.

Speaker 7 That was my who's back, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, my who's back.

Speaker 1 I can't believe you missed, you didn't say this one, PFT. You actually might have...
It might have been happening during Pup Punk, which I heard it was great. You got one more show, right?

Speaker 7 We're playing on Friday,

Speaker 7 the 20th, LSU, at Fred's. Fred's is the best place on earth.

Speaker 1 Mark is the best guy on earth. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 We got a new throat goat. What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So on Friday night,

Speaker 1 Selena Powell, who is she an adult entertainment actress,

Speaker 1 she tweeted, all I'm saying is my throat, the reason the Heat will beat the Nuggets tomorrow, y'all. Basketball games are more fun when you fuck the player before the game.
LOL, go number two.

Speaker 1 That's Terry Rose year.

Speaker 1 And I believe the Heat beat the Nuggets. Did they not?

Speaker 1 They didn't, but they covered. And Terry Rozier definitely went over his point total.
Correct. I like that.
Yeah. So she tweeted that before the game, too.

Speaker 1 She was just like, hey, just so everyone knows, I fucked Terry Rozier last night, so he's going to be awesome.

Speaker 7 It's such a short-sighted move on her part.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 7 Because if you don't tell anybody about it, then you'll get repeat business. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he'll tell his friends. True.
Oh,

Speaker 1 they did not cover, but Terry Rozier had over his points. He had 15 points.
I think his mom was like 13 and a half.

Speaker 4 Was the other woman on the No Jumper podcast?

Speaker 1 Oh, so this is AJ Today's.

Speaker 7 So she stole this from A.J. Tides.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? The whole gig.

Speaker 7 She stole the whole concept.

Speaker 4 She's sucking down NBA players?

Speaker 7 She stole the concept of going of public

Speaker 1 league.

Speaker 7 I sucked off a basketball player. Before A.J.
Tiddy's, nobody ever said that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but this was, was, she was calling her shot, and she was right. Yeah, she was.

Speaker 1 AJ Titties was just, you know,

Speaker 1 reminiscing.

Speaker 1 She did call her shot, and she was right.

Speaker 7 All right, so respect to Miss Selena Powell. Is it Miss or Mrs.
Mrs.?

Speaker 1 Ms. Ms.
Ladies? Miss Selena Powell?

Speaker 7 Dr. Selena Powell.

Speaker 1 Oh, also,

Speaker 1 we forgot to give our Uncrustables update. We came nowhere close.

Speaker 4 And now we have 500.

Speaker 1 Kind of a mistake by us.

Speaker 7 I think we got through 200 Uncrustables. 200 in in a week.

Speaker 1 Here's where we went wrong.

Speaker 7 You got to either

Speaker 7 learning something from your mistakes or you're just treading water.

Speaker 7 We needed to order the uncrustables and shipments that would come like every other day. Yeah.
Because after about three days in the fridge, they started to get super stale.

Speaker 7 And then only the real diehards were still going for them.

Speaker 1 And we have like a ton more in the freezer.

Speaker 4 Turns out

Speaker 4 we don't have like massive athletes burning a shit ton of calories at our facility

Speaker 1 all day every day good point while also eating uncrustables us just snacking on uncrustable two a day is not equivalent to there was a couple days where i was full of uncrustables i was like this is i've had too many i had like four or five and i was like this is gross uh so yeah we can we failed we failed so maybe we need to do this while also running like a mini training camp or high

Speaker 1 we should next year we should do we should we should do our own training camp get like a full trainer for like an entire week, do two a day.

Speaker 7 That's the worst idea you've ever had.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I agree, but I'm just, I'm feeling, I'm starting to feel the, the weight of football season. I'm starting to feel full all the time.
I'm starting to take three shits a day,

Speaker 1 which is never good when you're like, when you fill the bowl fully three times a day, you're like, that's overeating.

Speaker 1 I ate too much.

Speaker 4 Tom Brennan.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Beams. Is that your just favorite moment of all time? Yeah, I was waiting for it all day.
Yeah. Well, it was noon, but

Speaker 1 it was 11.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 11 inches.

Speaker 4 So Tom Brennan was calling the pre-super game, and there was a player named Cassidy. It's their quarterback.
It's their quarterback. Yeah.
And he had to shout him out in the pregame.

Speaker 4 And he, like, he handled it well. He acknowledged it.

Speaker 1 Memes, what time did you wake up on Saturday?

Speaker 1 I was up early, like 7. Oh.
Okay, so you had to wait four hours. Yeah, I was fired up.
It was the most important thing. Did you wake up like on my four TVs.

Speaker 1 Did you wake up like a kid on Christmas being like, today's the day?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was fired up. So you want to explain exactly what he said?

Speaker 1 I think the video might be better. But he was just like, and Costianos.
And he gave a nod to the camera.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 He basically was giving a nod to you. Yeah, he knew.
He was just, that's memes.

Speaker 1 Also.

Speaker 2 We didn't acknowledge it on Friday. We forgot to mention on Friday.
We have to pay our respects to Ben.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That video. Did we miss it on Friday? Yes.
Yes. Shit.

Speaker 12 That video was one of the saddest things.

Speaker 1 Yes. It was.

Speaker 7 I should have brought it up on Thursday night after the game was over, but what Kirk Herbstree did calling the game on Thursday night, actually, it takes an incredible amount of guts to do it.

Speaker 7 Like, he had to be the saddest person on earth.

Speaker 1 Not only that on Thursday, but then playing that video on Saturday on game day, which was just an absolute tearjerker.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And then he had to talk about it later on.

Speaker 7 let you know.

Speaker 1 Do the game. Yeah.
It's yeah. I don't know how he did that.
Yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 7 It sucks.

Speaker 7 I was thinking about Kirk when all that was going down.

Speaker 7 The one thing that somebody told me when Leroy passed away that actually made things better is like at some point when you think about your dog, you will start to smile before you get sad and you just have to work until you get to that point.

Speaker 7 And it'll be a good point once it gets there. But yeah, what Kirk did was like,

Speaker 7 I could never have done that.

Speaker 1 There was an old Peter King column that he wrote when his dog passed away.

Speaker 1 and it was, I can't remember the exact line, but it was basically like the only way to not feel this pain is to never have a dog, and what a hollow life that would be.

Speaker 1 Like, that's the only way to not feel, you know, when your dog passes away. And it's, it's the truth.
Like, the alternative is not having a dog, and no one wants that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Ben was a good boy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good call, Max.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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