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On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Brian Balninger on to talk some football.

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Okay, let's go welcome to part of my podcast. I vote for Pug.
I vote for Pug as well. I was going to say maybe Hank.
No. No, no.
God, no. But no, but we should make Hank the president because he doesn't want to be the president.
Isn't that the rule you always say? We should find the person who least wants to be it yeah my general rule of thumb is that anybody that wants to be president should never be present the type of ego that you would need to be president like it's a bad idea to elect those psychos 15 yard penalty shooting you up jail what hanks gonna hanks has locked him up me yeah if you're throwing? Okay, so you're a president. He said you'd be in prison.
You're not running against me. You're running against Pug.
Still jail, though. But I can do whatever I want.
You can jail all your enemies. I think we need a president of the podcast.
You think it should be Pug? I vote Pug. Get Pug in here.
In a landslide. Big, big day in the country.
We have the NFL trade deadline in Mactionback. the first dog president has been elected all right pug's gonna come in here we're gonna tell him that he's president what do you think his reaction is gonna be i think he's gonna be psyched but he's gonna be like what do i do even here we just elected a guy he's not even here that's perfect that's perfect the country runs itself at this point pug is mia oh no it would did someone throw a tennis ball or something.
It's funny if he was just out on the court.

He's just get. at this point.
Pug is MIA. Oh, no.
Did someone throw a tennis ball or something?

It's funny if he was just out on the court.

He's just getting distracted.

You will not get any election coverage on this show.

We will talk football.

And we also will tell Pug that he's president

whenever he comes back. So Big T asked me a question

about the election. I still think we should title the episode.

You want to? Okay. I said at the end of it.
We already taped the end of the show and I said we should do it. Should we do it? It's the most free downloads in the history of free downloads.
Maybe not. Maybe that's unethical.
What if we add it in? What if it's like Brian Baldinger, NFL trade deadline, and the fate of our country 2024? So Big T had an interesting question. was like what if you know the write-in line on every ballot what if enough of the country got together and wrote in the same person and then that person ended up getting elected and they didn't want to be president do they have to be president that's how it works listen i got duped early i have two things i want to say one is uh i think i'm officially you know we're we're gonna turn 40 in a couple months, BFT, or like three months.
It's been rattling me a little bit, but I'm okay. I'm good.
I'm totally fine with it. I haven't gone out and gotten hair surgery or bought an old car or anything.
Here's what I'm dealing with. I'm just having to embrace where I'm at in life.
And unfortunately, I think I'm just a guy who gets duped online now like a fully duped online because a guy of Jaguars account said uh remember in 2014 when Blake Bortles finished sixth for the Florida governor race I retweeted that I retweeted as well I was like yeah of course he did he's the fucking boat but I so I'm I'm fine with just being the guy that didn't happen no it did not well said 20,000 votes. I should have been tipped off then.
Here's the thing. It hadn't been exactly tied with whoever finished in last.
Yeah. And I think it was like 60,000 votes.
I retweeted it as well. But I think that if enough people reposted on X.com, the everything app, it's all happening on X.
If enough people repost it, then it just becomes the truth. Yeah.
So I think, yes, Blake bortles you can look that up now on wikipedia i'm pretty sure it says that he finished in sixth place i'm i'm just a duped guy now but i i uh i was like yeah blake bortles would blake bortles would be the perfect like politician because he would just go off vibes yeah and he would just be like whatever yeah does it help people oh okay yeah sure you know what he's a man that can put in a plan uh for health in america that can get us healthy again if he just does a first thing in the morning everybody you wake up and you take a piss yeah for your country wait should blake portals be the president pardon my take sure there's no way he's gonna pick up my phone call right now. There's one thing I'm going to miss from this whole election stuff.

Okay.

The commercials.

Oh, yeah.

My God.

The commercials are so ready for the commercials to be done.

All right.

I'm going to call Blake.

If he picks up, I think he's the official president of part of my take.

Do you guys agree with this?

I agree.

But what if he doesn't answer?

Is that Blake Griffin?

I think that might make him even more like that yeah okay oh yeah and then no we could get brooks a chance should we just send a zoom to all three of them oh i don't think he's gonna pick up there's no chance he's gonna pick up It's back to pug.

Oh.

Yellow. going to pick up.
There's no chance it's going to pick up. It's back to Pug.
Oh! Hey! We're taping the show right now. And, you know, it's a big day in the country.
So we decided that we were going to create a president of Pardon My Take. And we have elected you president of Pardon My Take.
Oh, man, I'm honored. Oh, hell yes.
So you take the job? Oh, no, I have the opportunity to decline. You do? Oh, yeah, no, I don't want that.
All right. I'm VP material.
Okay, all right, you're VP, you're VP. All right, because we were talking about how someone, a Jaguars

fan account tweeted, they're like,

remember in 2014 when Blake

Bortles actually finished sixth for the governor

in Florida and I got duped

because I love you so much. I was like, yeah, of course

he did. It said you got 20,000 votes.

It was completely photoshopped, but

okay, so

you're VP. 15 times today.
Yeah. I'm in for vp for sure all right done all right great all right we'll talk to you later all right see that's a guy who should be a politician that's perfect yeah it's like oh i can decline all right so pug is president and blake portals is vp yeah so the stat that that i accidentally reposted my finger slipped.
It says that he got 20,066 votes for governor in the year 2014. I just believed it.
I was like, I think that's just, I was blinded by my love for our vice president, Blake Bortles. It could happen.
Yeah. Think about it.
We have pug. Pug.
We have decided, we started the show, you know, everyone's in the election mood, so we decided we need a president of Pardon My Take, and you have been voted as our president. I'm honored, Pug.
Perfect. Yeah.
And Blake Bortles is your VP. Okay.
I'm in. Pug.
Okay. Pug, what kind of policies are you bringing to part of my take? Free popcorn machine.
Always needs to be loaded up. Okay.
Max on the couch. Now we're getting to some fucking fiery policies.
Max and Hank share the couch. Oh, I like that.
That's fine with me. Would you put yourself in Max's spot? Yeah.
Yeah, and then Shane will be in here. I don't hate that.
Oh, memes. Memes.
What do we got going on? Not Pug. Okay you are you are now president Blake Portals is VP they uh thank you for accepting this very important role I appreciate it it's for all the AWLs all the pugs pug okay love that all right should we talk some football we got the business out of the Let's talk football.
We should talk Monday football real quick, and then we'll get to the NFL trade deadline. The Chiefs are perfect on the season.
They are going to play every game the exact same way where you think the Chiefs might lose, and then they're going to be perfect on third down, and they're going to get a big defensive stop, and Patrick Holmes is going to make a big play. Oh, and yeah, Travis Kelsey is still alive.
Yeah, still alive. Very much alive.
Yeah, I think the, oh yeah, there we go. The mic out.
Patrick Mahomes, yeah, that's just what they do. And DeAndre Hopkins, obviously that was his coming out party.
And I was impressed, like Baker is the man. I can't stop rooting for Baker and the Bucs because he's just, he's a gamer.
He's just going to be in every game, going to will them to try to win these games. Todd Bowles is the biggest fucking coward in the world.
He pulled a Billy Napier. What a loser.
It's a loser move. So you're going up against the Chiefs.
You're decimated by injuries. Baker just went out there and bled all over himself for three hours.
You somehow got yourself in position where you can win the game score a touchdown and then you have the opportunity to go for two on the road monday football against an undefeated team or you can kick an extra point like a coward go to overtime and think that you can win an overtime against literally patrick mahomes yeah and uh you decide to kick the extra point, I saw somebody that posted what the official stats were,

and this is where, Big Cat, you and I need to separate ourselves from the stats.

From the nerds?

Some people are saying that we've become nerds because of the whole 14 points go for two thing.

That's just math.

That's just the one thing that we know about and understand.

That is simply the only analytics that I'll ever understand,

so I'm going to talk about it constantly to make people think I'm smart. That and beer before liquor.
Yeah. That's analytics too.
And don't swim if you've had tuna fish sandwich. Yeah.
Good point. Yeah.
Don't swim 30 minutes after eating. Yeah.
30 minutes after eating and pulling out is good birth control. Yep.
Okay. So here's what the official numbers are.
If the

winning percentage, if you go for the point after touchdown, 42.8%, the winning percentage, if you

go for two after, uh, if you go for two after that touchdown, 41.2. So 41.2 for going for two

versus 42.8 for going for the win. So they're saying it's safer by 1% to kick the extra point.

Thank you. 2 for going for 2 versus 42.8 for going for the win so they're saying it's safer by one percent to kick the extra point got it here's why they're wrong here's why the nerds are wrong it's fucking patrick mahomes on the other side it's the vibe check you're fucking patrick mahomes this is where uh like whenever we have these arguments about analytics i think we're actually two two of the more honest and grounded people when it comes to analytics are important.
You should use the math in your advantage, but vibes are very much important and time and place matters. Yeah, too many people use the word analytics as just a word for a number that they don't like.
Right, and I'm all for you. You are without Mike Evans, without Chris Godwin, you've taken the Chiefs to the limit here.
You have one play to win the game. Just go fucking run that play.
And I don't, like, if you don't get it, that's the other thing. It's like I would just rule every decision that you're making as a coach is if it fails, will I be blamed? I wouldn't have blamed Todd Bowles there.
I was thinking go for two the whole time. Just try to win the game.
If you don't get the two, hey, at least you went out on the field. Instead of the would I be blamed, what I like to do is I like to imagine what a fan of the other team doesn't want me to do.
And then I do that thing. Correct.
So if you were to ask any Chiefs fan, what don't you want the Bucs to do? they would say, I don't want me correct and then i do that thing correct so if you were to ask any chiefs fan what don't you want the bucks to do they would say i don't want them to go for two on this play because i would love to take my chances in over to first of all you get a coin flip to start out so that's 50 50 and then you have patrick mahomes on the other side so even if you go down kick an extra point or excuse me kick a field goal you still have to stop patrick mahomes from scoring touchdown. Now, in this case, you want to imagine what the other team does not want you to do.
And it's a no-brainer for that. Like, you have the opportunity to beat the Chiefs on Monday Night Football without giving their offense an opportunity to touch the ball.
Now, there was some time left, too, and that's because Todd Bowles made a terrible decision. He called a timeout.
He called a timeout. You'd like some of that time to tick off because then yeah you would end up going up by one then kicking the ball to Mahomes and then he gets four downs and he doesn't have you don't factor in punting if you're the Chiefs on that off of course but still you go for two in that situation you try to win the game right there when yards win the game Liam Cohn's a great offensive coordinator like the fact that he has the Bucs still looking like a very competent offense with all their injuries, I don't know.
Kate Auten just gets schemed open on every play. It's crazy.
So the Chiefs defense is gassed. You have a great offensive coordinator.
You have a gamer in Baker Mayfield who can run it in or throw it in, so you can do an option on that play. Go for two.
And Todd Bowles, it's when a coach gets to a point where they're losing and they're losing in a stupid way that I just get so sick of their face. I'm so sick of Todd Bowles' face.
His little, like, where he squints his eyes when he's looking at the field, he looks like your, like, grandparent or parent who's reading a menu that refuses to get glasses. And you're like, do you need help? Can we read it for you? He just keeps squinting at the field.
Like, if I squint hard enough, it will look different. Todd Bowles wants them to turn up the font on the downside.
Yeah. Is it a three or is that a four? It's just, there's something about his, like, I just, I've turned on Todd Bowles.
ball i mean i was never a big todd bowles guy but this bucks team fights so hard and todd bowls you're a coward yeah you're a coward it's a cowardly move and the bucks very easily could have won that game they they played well the bucks were in there the whole time they were playing hard on defense and i love bucky bucky's the best yeah how can you not root for a guy named bucky? Yeah. Bucky Irving, Shob White scored.
I have a question about Patrick Mahomes. Is he the heir apparent to the Big Ben fake injury? Because Patrick Mahomes gets horrifically injured at least three times a year, and then he's totally fine.
Okay, so be honest. In the moment after it happened, when he's getting carried off the field they show the replay a couple times what'd you think i thought achilles or knee it was non-contact um i was watching the game in bed actually and i was like oh non-contact that's actually way worse and my wife was like why and i just felt like the dumbest person ever i was like well if you get hit like you know you break, but non-contact, you don't know what happened.
Total non-answer for me, but obviously we've always learned that non-contact is way worse. It's because if it's non-contact, then it's probably a ligament or a tendon.
Probably. And if it's a bone, you might get lucky and it's just a high ankle sprain.
I did not have a good answer for that in the moment. I just completely crumbled under pressure.
But yeah, I thought it was achilles or knee or like they said maybe even his hip i thought it was patrick mahomes is done i i was like carson wentz is going to i was to the point where i was like carson wentz probably won a super bowl so i got mad i got so mad when they showed carson wentz in red yeah i was like this motherfucker is about to get on the field force me to watch him play which brings up big time PTSD and be successful.

And I was prepared, this motherfucker is about to get on the field, force me to watch him play, which brings up big time PTSD. Yeah.
And be successful. Yeah.
And I was prepared for that. Carson looked very nervous.
And he's probably thankful that he didn't have to go in because he is in the co-pilot seat to potentially win a Super Bowl this year, which is kind of his thing that he likes to do. But the relief that I thought I saw inon wins his face it's like if you're in an exit row on an airplane and it crashes and you're like oh i gotta get up and get everybody off this plane and then you wake up from that dream and you're like oh it's not real that's what carson once felt when mahomes was like i'm just gonna run this out on the sidelines so he was fine after getting carried off the field like he wasn't putting any weight on his foot whatsoever in that shot where he was they were celebrating and he was sitting down and he looked up and he was just like not good i was convinced he was done for the year and he does he does do this i i don't know i think he's got you know they always show his stretching and how he does these weird stretches in the offseason and he does does have that little bit of dad bod.
I think he's just indestructible. Yeah, he's Gumby.
Yeah. Did we ever find out what could have potentially been the injury? Yeah, they said that he was working on an ankle sprain.
Got it. I don't know if he was listed or if they were giving him a treatment before the game for that.
But he had an ankle sprain. You know how sometimes if your ankle's fucked up and then you just step?

Yeah.

Like, we're old, but, like, you'll just take a step and step on it wrong.

All the time.

He did that, like, times 100, where he stepped on it and re-aggravated it,

and then he was like, okay, nothing's actually wrong with it.

Yeah.

Andy Reid should have actually given Carson Wentz a game ball

and been like, hey, in those, like, 90 seconds,

you didn't piss and shit yourself.

You're ready to go, Carson. Good job, dude.
He might have. I don't know.
It's just for the bear. You didn't run away from us.
Good job, Carson. I just closed my eyes, leaned back, and saw the picture of Carson Wentz with the 107 ducks that he shot.
I just assumed it was going to be like the NFL is scripted. Carson Wentz obviously was playing an MVP level the year that he gets hurt.
Nick Foles wins the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes gets hurt.
Carson Wentz wins the Super Bowl. That's what's going to happen.
If Wentz went and he would have cooked. Yeah.
He would have won a Super Bowl. Yep.
And we would have just been like, Carson Wentz won a Super Bowl. And then all the Taylor Swift fans in the world would have fallen in love with Carson Wentz.
And it would have been... All right.
Who would it have been? I'm trying to think. Not the Saints.
Maybe the Saints. I'm trying to think who would have been – all right, who would it have been? I'm trying to think.
Not the – maybe the Saints. I'm trying to think who would have then signed – maybe the Giants would have signed Carson Wentz and he would have absolutely sucked.
He would have won a Super Bowl. The Giants would have been like Carson Wentz, our starting quarterback going forward, and then he would have gone back into a pumpkin.
I think maybe the Raiders. The Raiders, yeah.
The Giants and the Raiders. One of those.
Maybe the Titans. Like, one of those teams would have signed him and he would have sucked.
Colts, really. Jets.
The Jets signed Carson Wentz. The Jets would have signed Carson Wentz.
We were robbed of the Carson Wentz story arc. I'm not ruling it out.
No, I'm not either. But, yeah, so that was – the Chiefs are just – they're so fucking good.
And they do it in such an efficient – like they never look flashy anymore. I think that – we'll talk to Baldy about it because he pointed out that DeAndre Hopkins changes that.
But they just – you can't make a mistake against them. And it just doesn't matter if there's a third down in eight.
Patrick Mahomes is going to get it. Their defense is also incredible.
Really good. Really, really really really really good yeah uh okay yeah it's kind of weird because i feel like the chiefs they're they're not the best team in the nfl but they will be the best team in the nfl they're the team that makes sense they're the team no one would want to play in a playoff game because i would think they would win every single playoff yeah which they have they have not lost the game since the raiders christmas day game or the day after christ last year.
They've not lost a game. They won their, what, last two games of the regular season, then won all their playoff games, and now they're 8-0.
So they're 8-0. Who's going to be the first analyst to get on TV and say, is this the worst 8-0 team that we've ever had in the NFL? It's not, though.
We've had way worse. They're winning games because they're good at football.
I think if they went undefeated, people would be like, this is the most uninspiring undefeated. They're not winning games because they're doing gimmicks.
They're not winning games in blowouts against bad teams. They're just winning games because they do everything very, very good.
They just win games. So they have the Broncos next, then they have at the Bills.
If the Bills don't beat them, I don't know if they have a loss until the Texans in at the Steelers at the end of the season. That's what Sean McDermott should do.
Sean McDermott should hire Paul Rudd to sit next to him on the sidelines and be like, Paul, should I go for two here? What do you want as a fan of the Chiefs? And then make his decision thusly. Yeah, just go off of that.
All right, should we talk some NFL trade deadline? PFT. Are the commanders all in? I'm thinking Soupy.
Yeah? I'm thinking Soupy. Marshawn Lattimore obviously got traded to the commanders.
Huge, huge. I mean, that's a great trade.
It's a good trade. We gave up a third-round pick, and I think we swapped a fourth for a fifth.
So essentially what Adam Peters did was he turned John Dotson into Marshawn Lattimore, which is a pretty good magic trick. Not exactly.
Well, yeah. We got a fifth back as well.
Well, he actually did better than that because the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick. But you gave up an extra pick.
But the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick than what we ended up getting from that trade because you had Miami's third rounder. But you just said you swapped a fourth and a fifth.
We swapped a third and a fifth. Okay, so we swapped a third and a fifth.
Correct. So you gave up more picks.
So wait, me and you swapped a third and a fifth. Correct.
And you added

a fourth. And we added a fourth.

To the Lattimore. So but

I didn't get a fifth back from you. Is that what you're saying?

We got a fifth. Wait wait.

We got a fifth. Start fresh.

So PFT gave Max

Jahan Dotson. Max

gave PFT what?

Third round pick.

We got Jahan Dotson and a fifth. And you gave up a third up a third and i think and a seventh okay forget the seventh correct what you then i you so you got you you traded johan dotson and got a third round pick miami johan dotson and a fourth for marshawn latimore i got i got um that's what it that's what it is i got uh miami's pick for max miami's third round.
I'm confused. So then what did you trade for Marshawn Lattimore? So then we just traded our third round pick for Marshawn Lattimore.
And a fourth? And we swapped. And a fourth.
A fourth and a fifth. We swapped a fourth and a fifth.
But we also got one of your fifths. Yeah.
So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth because it was the same trade plus a fourth. Okay.
So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth. And a fourth.
I still like it. So the reason why— And you're not Matt.
No, I just wanted to clarify because he was saying things that were incorrect. Right.
Okay, so what I love about the trade is I still have no idea how to evaluate cornerbacks. I don't sit out there grinding film or anything, but I do trust one person more than most and that's uh ben mentz yeah and ben mentz gave me a breakdown a full breakdown of marshawn latimore and uh he said lockdown number one physical good length will tackle competitive got a couple more years in his prime still pretty fast hated dennis allen oh that's the big for me.
Yeah, Dennis Allen got fired, which we happened after we recorded on Sunday night. Yeah, we got the Rizzler now.
Yeah, we got the Rizzler. Rizzy.
That was due to happen. But yeah, the commanders look like they're all in.
Yeah, the other teams that were interested in him were the Chiefs, I think the 49ers. So other competent organizations.
Those are all in teams. Are going for him.
So I'm happy. Our defense is like middle of the road-ish.
And with Lattimore, it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world if the Commanders won a Super Bowl. I'm not thinking soupy, but it wouldn't be crazy.
I was looking at the schedule and the standings. I think you guys could be the one seed.
Yeah, I mean, the Lions have to play the NFC North. The Lions are a much better team than we i mean the lions have to play the nfc north

the lions are a much better team than we are but they have to play the nfc north that's why that's why these next two games for the commanders are that's why i asked the question i was not trying to trap you but if they go to and oh in these next two games their schedule is not that difficult one seeds right there it's right dealers and the cowboy or sorry the dealers and the eagles in the next two weeks are very big games.

If you go 2-0, that changes everything. Now I think that's down to 1-1.
1-1 would be great, too, though. I'm saying, like, that's – yeah.
It's right there. Is the game in Pittsburgh? The game is at home.
Okay. But, I mean, it's Pittsburgh, so they just get on a bus.
Yeah. And George Soros pays for their ticket down to dc and then they go do their thing yeah uh all right so what other trades we had um we had the lions get better so uh zedarius smith goes gets traded from the browns he's now on his third nfc north team uh i saw the packers traded preston smith to the steelers steelers also got mike william the Jets.
Memes, where are they getting from Mike Williams? What kind of player is Mike Williams right now? What do you got, Memes? He didn't do much with the Jets, but Russell Wilson loves deep ball, and Mike Williams is a deep ball threat. So he didn't do much with the Jets.
Okay, so you don't care about giving him up?

No, not really.

But Alanzard is on IR, so Mike Williams did fill a hole there,

but young guy's got to step up.

Young guy's got to step up.

Next man up.

What other trades did we have that were consequential?

Tredavious White?

Yeah, Tredavious White got traded from the Rams to the Steelers? Who got Tredavious White? All right, here we got the whole list. Tredavious White.
I'm looking for his name. He's on the Ravens.
Ravens. Okay.
So, I mean, a couple teams, and then obviously Deontay Johnson got traded last week, which was big. And then Schefter posted yesterday that DK Metcalf will not be traded,

contrary to speculation.

That is how I learned about DK Metcalf potentially being traded,

was Adam Schefter saying that he won't be traded.

Got it.

Yeah.

Oh, also Khalil Herbert got traded from the Bears and then tweeted,

thank you, God.

Yeah.

I would like to make a statement,

now that I've had a little time to have the dust

settle, uh, and watch DJ more seemingly quit on, uh, the bear season and, uh, met Eberflus be a

moron. Uh, I think I'm just, I think I need to just let go and just give up.
And, uh, I see what

you have PFT in new owners. And I think I just, I i can't i can't let myself get my hopes up until there's new owners which will never happen so that just never i'm just never gonna change it makes it makes a big difference they're never gonna hire someone they're never gonna hire an alpha male uh they never want a guy guy who's bigger than the organization since dick uh so it's uh yeah i'm just down bad and kill williams can get ruined drake may's uh gonna be better jayden daniel's already better uh who else bo nicks is better it michael pennix is gonna be better they're all gonna be better and i'm just gonna be i'm just backing the whole cycle who's gonna on Patriots? Yeah.
You have the opportunity to bury Hank's dreams, though. But at this point, I saw a report that if there was a report, which the Bears have never done, they've never fired a coach in the middle of the season, over 100 years history.
There was a rumor that if they lost to the Patriots, then Matty Bufus would get fired. So now what am I rooting for? Yeah, that's a trick question.
I think you've got to be rooting for Hank. If you could guarantee that he would get fired, I would never root against the Bears, but I would at least have something on the other end if they do lose that game.
Yeah, but say Caleb goes out, throws three touchdowns, no picks, 290 yards, and the defense just breaks down against Drake May. You'd be okay with that? It's all relevant.
I listened to Matt Eberflus's press conference live, and it's bad. He is not a good coach.
Nothing about the man inspires confidence. It was crazy because I was getting mad for the city of Chicago.
I was like, this shouldn't be on the public airwaves here.

This is obscenity, listening to him talk and just say the most innocuous coach cliches that he could think of to answer any given question.

He was like, yeah, you know, I think we got to do a better job running the football and we got to stop the run.

This time of year, stopping the run is important.

And it starts with me. He said it starts with me again.
It starts with me. What were you going to say, Hank? From the troll couch.
Not the troll couch. I don't want the Patriots to win this weekend.
I'm going to be rooting for the Patriots because I don't think they would fire Matt Ibrafus, win or lose. That was a rumor, but they're such cheap owners, and they won't do it.

I know he's a friend of the program, but I feel like when you're doing as bad as he is,

getting funked up looks so much worse.

Matt Eberflus?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like he got the poofy haircut before the season. He's not a friend of the program, by the way.

He came on once.

Okay.

Let's not get crazy.

No, I'm just going to say he looks ridiculous. He looks ridiculous.
Take mouth. No, I'm talking about Funk.
Oh, Funk is a friend of the program. Funk is still a friend of the program.
For the listeners, who's Funk again? Funk is the barber who cuts most of the hair for the Chicago Bears. And he is a friend.
He's been in this office. He's got the poofy hair before the season and it looks ridiculous now in hindsight.
They're bad. I've said it a million times.
Stop worrying about your hair. They did it with Mitch.
Worry about the end of the year. Yeah, I mean, you say that to a quarterback that cares more about how they dress.
That guy, Matt Iberflues, he should spend more time sitting in his playbook and less time in the bar. But probably not because he's dangerous in his own playbook.
They did it with Mitch Trub trubisky obviously mitch trubisky is drafted john fox is the coach they fire john fox after one year then matt uh nagy comes in then they draft justin fields fire matt nagy after a year matt eberflus comes in they drafted caleb williams kept matt eberflus they're gonna fire matt eberflus after a year. I've done this speech a million times, but it's the same old, same old bullshit.
And basically they're like, hey, all we got to do is get our head coach funked up and everyone will think that everything's changed and nothing has changed. It's facelift.
It's bad. So I'm in a dark, dark place.
But I'm happy for you guys. You guys have some good organizations you get to root for and fun things coming up.
And it's just, it's strange. It's honestly, it's, it's strange for me to be looking at transactions that we make and be like, I think that they have a plan.
Well, yeah, that's the thing. The crazy thing is like Jaden Daniels is, he's so good at football at playing quarterback that he actually made our secondary actually made our secondary better.
But Jaden Daniels is very, very good at playing football. If you had Dan Snyder and Jaden Daniels, it wouldn't work out.
Oh, Jaden Daniels would be, yes. That's the point where I came to that realization in the last 24 hours where I was like, why am I thinking that it's going to be different? It's the same people running the same dumpster fire over and over.
We're going to do the same thing year in and year out. Didn't those people win a Super Bowl, though? In 1985.
It's been a while. If Dan Snyder was the owner of the Commanders...
And they should have won more, and they didn't. Then when Jaden Daniels got his rib broken, it would have punctured his heart, and he would have died on the field.
That's the vibe that having bad ownership having bad ownership will give you it's a sick sweatshirt pfk thank you hank you can find it in the barstool store starting on thursday it's almost a comforting feeling though because i'm just not gonna i've reached the point where i'm not gonna fight it uh i'm not gonna fight it until the offseason i'll fight it again i'll be like oh yeah new coach this fucking guy we're gonna hire we're not gonna hire ben johnson we're not gonna hire Cohn. We're going to probably hire the offensive coordinator.
No, but maybe the defensive coordinator of the Panthers or something and be like, well, he's next up. And I'll get myself really excited, and I'll do the whole thing, and I'll get pumped.
And then they'll finish like 9-8 or 10-7 maybe, maybe. And then I'll be like, oh, next year's the year.
And then they'll draft Arch Manning. Yeah, they'll draft another guy and then they'll fire the the guy we just so all hope optimism is gone until july that's it yeah so no you can still quit you can still go on a run dj moore he's quit he doesn't like caleb it's bad bad news he's a fields guy he's always clear herbert left and said, thank you, God.
He tweeted, thank you, God. Yeah.
What do you do about DJ Moore going forward? I would trade him. How can him and Caleb play in the future? Don't know, Max.
It makes no sense to me. Maybe something will change, and I like DJ Moore.
Seems like a great guy. He is a very good receiver.
Something has been off this year, and you can't pretend that that's not the case. You can't just be like, I could look over it after the Texans stuff.
Weird shit, you know, like body language. But this one, I'm just like, it's, I don't know.
You can't look past it. There's too many isolated incidents to be like.
Correct. Where something is up.
Each one you can look over individually, but all of them together means that there's got to be something. There's got to be something up, and I'm not blind to it.
Yeah. He misses old buddy.
I think it's as simple as that. Like, he was never going to love Caleb.
No. He just saw Caleb as his.
And he got his money, which I'm happy he got his money. Again, it's not like a personal thing.
I like DJ Moore the person. I like DJ Moore as a receiver in theory.j more on this team this year has been something maybe just woke up on the wrong side of the bed do you think khalil herbert is the first person to thank god for moving to cincinnati yeah probably i think maybe in history right yeah that's probably it and then we we also glossed over uh the biggest move of the trade deadline jerry jones yeah move.
The Cowboys are still all in. Oh.
Did not sign Pam Oliver. He got, was it Jonathan Mingo? Yeah.
From the Panthers? Yeah. So fourth round receiver from the Panthers.
Jerry said that they liked him a lot in the draft. So basically, Jerry Jones has been stewing on not getting Mingo for the last, what, two years? Yep.
And so he finally righted that wrong. And now I guess Trey Lance has another target.
That's huge. Massive.
Trey Lance. Is it going to be Trey Lance? No, I think it's going to be Cooper Rush, but also Jerry said on his radio hit that he goes on every week and gives up way too much information about his personnel decisions.
He said that it's going to be Cooper Rush, but also Trey Lance brings a lot of

stuff to the table that you can't get from Cooper.

Oh.

So I wouldn't be surprised if you saw Trey Lance make his way in on some plays.

A couple Trey Lance packages?

Some Trey Lance packages, yeah.

You need to punish them, Max.

You need to beat them by a billion.

Yeah.

I mean, Cooper, this has to be a spanking.

It has to be.

You have to put him over your knee, and you got to spank him. Yeah, I know.
For 60 minutes. At Jerry World will still always scare me a little bit.
Just spank him, Max. Spank the fuck out of him.
They're a team that's begging for you to put them out of their ass. They're like, Daddy, please spank me.
They're saying choke me out. I'm hoping that we spank.

I'm hoping that we spank.

I'm confident that we spank.

AJ Brown, good news from the MRI.

What's the good news?

No structural damage.

Looks like just a bruise.

That's good.

Just a bruise.

Just a bruise.

I look forward to him.

Contusion, as some may say.

I'm bummed out that we already played the Bucs

because Marshawn Lattimore against Mike Evans is always fun. That would have been fun, yeah.
Because they just rip each other's throats out every game. Yeah.
Okay, anything else from the NFL world that we missed? I don't think so. This is a great quote from Jamar Chase today.
They asked him about getting ready for Thursday night because it's going to be Bengals and Ravens on Thursday. And this is from our good friend Ben Baby in Cincinnati.
Loveati love ben baby we got to get ben baby on he said uh they asked him if it was like cramming for a test in school getting ready to play on a thursday night and jamar responded i didn't study in school love that love that cardell jones lsu baby yeah i didn't come here to play school i didn't come here to play school uh speaking of cardell jones Jones, let me do an ad real quick and then we'll talk some college football. When your home system or appliance breaks down, American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.
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I don't want credit, but I feel like we glossed over the fact that I did say Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix, Michael Penix are all going to be better than Caleb Williams. That was big of me.
Well, I can tell that you're in your feelings right now. I'm bad.
I'm down as bad as bad could be. I don't think that's true.
I still think that Caleb's going to be a good quarterback, but... But probably not.
Probably not. And it's not against Caleb.
I still believe in Caleb Williams, the quarterback.

I do not believe in the Bears, the organization.

Breaking moves.

Breaking moves.

Max?

I mean, this is the biggest enough story of all time.

Philadelphia 76ers Joel Embiid for three games

for altercation, shoving a columnist in a post-game locker room.

He's not playing the next three games.

Wait, why isn't he playing?

Because he's recovering from a meniscus injury.

Wait, so the NBA's investigation into Joel Embiid not playing

in the first several games has been usurped by the NBA suspending Joel Embiid from playing for three games. Yeah, it's the domino meme.
Make that memes. It's the first domino is Marcus Hayes writes a column about an investigation into Joel Embiid not playing, and then the big domino is Joel Embiid can't play for three games.
Per the NBA. I'm struggling to follow that.
They literally were like, hey, here's an investigation that they're not being correct about these injury reports and Marcus Hayes writes his article. Got it.
And then the article ends up with Joel Embiid pushing him, which we stand by him, Joel Embiid that is, and now Joel Embiid can't play three games. But he also wasn't going to play him because he's hurt.
It's like getting suspended from school for skipping school. Cool.
I mean, yeah, sure. I feel like they were like, yeah, he'll probably be back after the next three games.
So let's just suspend him for the next three games. Are you sure about that? You sure he's going to be back after the next three games? He'll be back.
Did Paul George play well? Nope. Oh, no.
It's okay. You got the Clippers.
Wait, are you sure about that you sure he's gonna be back after the next three games he'll be back did paul george play well nope oh no it's okay you got the clip wait are you one in five what we should are you one in five we've never talked about the nba this much we've never we've never we've never talked about the nba this much this early this season i did i didn't see a very i think it was from uh kevin o'connor oh no you guys are wanting five he posted we haven't talked about the Bucs for a second. We talk about Tankathon a lot, but I've been on there a lot because of the Patriots, and sometimes I click the NBA section, and the Sixers are three right now.
They're right now. Trust the process.
Cooper Flag Watch. You're trusting the process.
If we got Cooper Flag, that'd be crazy. Kevin O'Connor put up a very interesting post the other day about how bad the Clippers are and how things could go from bad to worse for them.

And if the Clippers somehow lucked into

a top pick in the lottery,

you know who gets that pick?

The Oklahoma City Thunder.

So if the Clippers are bad enough,

the Thunder could also get Cooper Flagg.

The Pelicans have the Bucs pick

and the Bucs are in dead last right now.

Whoa.

The Bucs are bad. That would be devastating.
Who could have seen the Dame Lillard trade not working out? Oh, wait. I did.
Bucs fans got very mad about that. And now there's rumors like the Giannis to New York.
It's back. It's crazy.
It's crazy. But if they don't have their own pick, why would bucks trade yannis no they would they should never trade yannis under any circumstance yannis gives you a chance you just got to figure out another way and the calves shout out to cats since we're doing nba talk they're eight no and they like keep winning in crazy ways uh okay college football college football we have our first rankings out we're gonna we're recording this the afternoon.
The rankings don't really matter this early with the new college football playoff setup because you're going to get the automatic teams in.

so you know the four highest ranked conference

winners and then

there's so much shit that's got to shake out like

this week we actually have true

elimination games in LSU versus Alabama

a mini elimination game

in Georgia versus Ole Miss because if Ole Miss loses, they'll be out. But the big story, so you want to do rankings first? What your guess is? I'm going to guess that Indiana fans will be pissed off.
Indiana fans have every right to be pissed off because Indiana should be ranked ahead of Ohio State and ahead of Texas. Indiana's undefeated, and you could say, well, they haven't beaten anyone.
True, but if you go common opponents for Ohio State and Indiana, Indiana beat Nebraska by a million, beat Michigan State by a million. Ohio State did kill Michigan State, but Ohio State struggled.
Nebraska.

So at this point, if we're just doing blind resumes,

and if you were to just flip-flop,

just imagine Indiana football with the Ohio State Buckeye logo next to it.

And if you look at who they've played,

if Ohio State had played that exact same schedule

and they had the exact same results,

Ohio State would probably be ranked, what, number two in the nation? Yeah. Well, so maybe not just because Ohio State, I'm not, I think you should just like as a personal like belief, the undefeated team should be ranked ahead of the team with a loss no matter what the schedule is.
Like at this point in the season, knowing it doesn't matter because they're going to play each other. Yeah.
Ohio State's argument, which I understand, they have the best win out of Ohio State, Indiana, and Texas because those three are going to be lumped up somewhere. They have the best win out of those three.
The best loss. They have the best loss as well.
So they lost by a point to Oregon at Oregon, and then they beat Penn State at Penn State. So Ohio State does have the case to be.
I just want to see Indiana higher than Ohio State and Texas. Yeah.
Because they've been demolishing teams. Yeah.
What you're saying is at this point, a great loss is better than a good win. Well, and they also, the committee, they go like data points.
And Ohio State's win at Penn State is better than anything Indiana's done. Yeah.
So that's how they'll do it do it i just especially the first poll that is utterly meaningless because we're gonna have so many games that figure this shit out just reward the teams that are that are undefeated there's a lot happening today in sports isn't there yeah like i feel like a day like today election day the college election day's over pug pug yeah but electionoff, and NFL trade deadline. And Maction.
And Maction. You just have to believe that Major League Baseball is going to announce some award at like 9.30 p.m.
tonight. Siong's coming tonight.
Right? They're going to try to put that out and get absolutely buried. Yeah.
I do think that Indiana should be ranked higher. That said, I think that when they match up, I would not be shocked if Ohio State beat them by a couple scores.
Yes, I think it's going to go. So I think they have to just guess with.
I don't know how they're. Are they just doing the rankings and not the bracket? Because the bracket obviously has to get figured out by the conference winners.
Either way, it's the Oregon, Georgia, Miami and BYU. As of right now, we're going to be the conference winners that you could guess.

Big 12 is chaotic.

Big 12 has many things.

BYU should get undefeated to the Big 12 championship game,

but that thing is chaotic.

And then it's going to be Ohio State, Texas, Indiana,

probably Tennessee, Notre Dame.

SMU.

SMU should.

I mean, SMU has a pretty – they have one loss to BYU, who's undefeated,

and they beat Louisville on the road, who was a ranked team,

and they beat Pittsburgh, killed Pittsburgh this past weekend.

Yeah, the ACC is going to be interesting because I don't know.

It looked like it was going to be Clemson-Miami the whole way,

and Clemson just dropped a fucking egg against louisville they got sunned they had no one in the stands at the end of that game it was crazy and they also were running donovan mcnab offense yeah because they were they were down like three scores and they were go the the play clock was going to like four seconds kade club nick was puking. Disgusting.
It was bad. So, yeah, I think SMU, they could be like number anywhere between 8 and 11.
Yeah. And I wouldn't be shocked.
And then Boise State will probably be the G5 team. But there's also, I mean, Tulane's out there.
Army still has a chance. There's like 20-ish teams that are two losses or less and have a chance at this thing, and it's pretty fucking awesome.
So you know I love doomsday scenarios, right? Yeah. The doomsday scenario in last week, now no longer possible.
Brand new doomsday scenario just dropped. If Texas loses to Florida, Georgia loses to Ole Miss.
Florida, they're on their third quarterback. They have been playing a lot better.
Yeah, they've been playing better. It would be nuts wouldn't be crazy i think they're i think their quarterback they put in on saturday against georgia was a transfer from yale i want to say imagine that they look good imagine being that was a great loss actually yeah that would but imagine being the yale quarterback and then having to get into the florida georgia game in Jacksonville, that's an insane, insane wave, like, difference in competition.
Yeah, and just difference in vibes in a city. Everything.
New Haven to Jacksonville. All right, so Texas loses to Florida.
Georgia loses to Ole Miss. LSU loses to Alabama.
Tennessee loses to Georgia. and A&M then loses to Texas later on.

Then the regular season would end with Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Missouri,

Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas, and Texas A&M

in an eight-way tie for first place in the SEC.

Damn.

And I think through all those tiebreakers.

Missouri is going to lose again.

They might, but if all those things happen,

then I believe it would be

lsu and alabama again in the sec championship that would rock eight-way tie yeah i'm rooting for it and then you'd probably have there might be two or three sec teams that are ranked higher than the sec champion yeah that ends up getting a buy just love love all these doomsday. Yeah.
It's awesome that so many teams are still alive right now. And like I said, the rankings don't matter this early.
But we did have – so this past weekend we had the Big 12 just do what the Big 12 does in absolute chaos. Iowa State losing, which they could still get in, but one loss Iowa State, they don't have a great strength of schedule.
Kansas State catching their second loss. Now it's BYU undefeated, and Deion.
Colorado. Owns their destiny.
They do have a tough, tough game at Texas Tech this weekend. But if they win that game, De deon in the playoff would be incredible and big cat do you think that there's any chance that the college football playoff cares about ratings yeah i think they might do you think that if a team made the playoff and one of their players played both sides of the ball 120 snaps that might be an interesting storyline for heisman i i'm worried.
Cam Ward is really, really good. Yeah, Miami's offense is probably unstoppable.
And their defense is... Miami's just going to be in fun games.
Miami-SMU would be an incredible ACC conference championship. That game would be...
I would take the over at 100. I would predict that if Colorado and SMU are anywhere close in terms of resume, ESPN is going to be like, we need Colorado.

They have to win out, though. Yeah.
Because that's the weird thing. What happened with the Big 12 this weekend is they probably fucked themselves in being a two-bid league.
Because if BYU goes and wins the whole thing, it's just going to probably be BYU. BYU would have to run the table, then lose to Colorado or an Iowa State

in the conference room for them to have a chance at two teams. And kind of similar to what happened to the ACC.
If Miami runs it and beats everyone, they might only get one. So it might just become the Big Ten in the SEC.
I have a question for you, Big Cat. Yes.
Can James Franklin win the big one? No. That was the last thing I had is things that we need to talk about.
But wait, let me finish. So Ryan Day, can he win the big one? If it's against Penn State, yes.
So is that a big one? Did Ryan Day just win the big one? Because I was thinking about the transit property, the big one. No.
And I think that Ohio State is Penn State's big one. Yes.
But Penn State is not Ohio State's big one. No, no that ohio state is penn state's big one yes but penn state is not ohio state's big one no no penn state is ohio pet yeah ohio state playing penn state that's not a big one for ryan day but it's a huge one yes it's everything for james franklin 10 out of the last 11 same story every single year they get in that game.
They have recruiting classes on par.

They have the talent on the field,

except they never have game-breaking, insane wide receivers

or guys who can win one-on-one like Ohio State does

because Ohio State always has wide receivers.

I think Penn State even has an Ohio State transfer at wide receiver.

Julian Fleming.

Yeah.

He's not very good. But he was like a story going into this game.
They're going to use this guy a lot because it's a revenge game. It was that and Will Howard not being recruited by Penn State.
It's like, well, he's not. He went to Kansas State first.
So it wasn't because he's from Pennsylvania. Drew Aller is also from Ohio.
Ohio guy, yeah. And then James Franklin after the game got into an altercation with a fan.
Max, do you think that you should get rid of James Franklin at Penn State? No. Do you think he's hit his ceiling? Yes.
Because that was, if you were going to beat Ohio State at home, pick six to go up 10-0, that was on a platter. I don't want to say next.
It couldn't have started better for them. And then they play next year with the new Big Ten.
They don't play Ohio State again for another four years. Great.
So James Franklin's fine. That game was over on the interception in the end zone that somehow the Ohio State defensive back caught.
I still don't know how he caught it. At the end of half, yeah.
I mean, he's got to catch that ball. Trey Wallace has got to catch that ball.
Also, I forgot Will Howard, he fumbled out of bounds into the end zone. So you got that, too.
And also the end of the game. Yeah, I mean, that was the worst yeah and that was the part that i think would drive me nuts if i was a penn state fan because all you heard all offseason was you got andy kotel nikki and your offense is gonna be explosive and they get to a point where all they have to do is get three yards and they ran the same play up the middle for nothing that shit sucked and then they and they like why would you not why not do i don't like wildcat tyler warren get him the ball you can't tackle the guy he's a beast just fucking snap it to him at least once and then you and you run it three times you get it to the one and then you decide to pass if you to pass, pass on one of their earlier days.
I know. I hate the run, run, run, pass.
If you're going to run, stick to the run. Yeah.
Because it also is very expected. Just pass on second down.
Yes. And they were doing that weird shit where they had their linemen split out wide, put them in motion to do absolutely nothing.
That was so frustrating. Well, that's what they did in the goal line

play. They did it three times in a row.
They had the linemen

come in motion three times in a row

for no reason. To not do anything.
Yeah.

To lay the softest block that you've ever seen.

You know what they did? They had them coming in

in motion, and when

you see the Niners do something like this, you know, Trent

Williams is about to get out in front and be like a lead blocker

on a smash play. They had them

come in and contribute to a double team. That's why they put him in motion.
It made zero sense. Also, I love Ohio State safety.
Caleb Downs? Yeah. Caleb Downs.
From Alabama. Caleb Downs is a fucking monster.
And then Ohio State has a bunch of backup offensive linemen. They have the ball on their own one with four minutes to go, and then they just run for seven yards of carry every single time to ice the game.
So what we can take away is that Ohio State, they are good enough to be the big one, but they're not big enough to win the big one. Yeah.
Okay. Well, and they will win a fake big one this year because they'll beat Michigan.
Yep, that's a fake big one. Yeah, that's a fake big one this year.
So, James Franklin, got to keep him? There's no other option. There's no other option.
That's what everyone keeps saying is that it's frustrating. He is a good football coach.
He puts them in a good position in the college football landscape that most teams would like to be in but he'll never be he'll never get to that a tier can i can never get to the i throw out a name with pennsylvania roots that i would i said a lot of nice things about this school earlier so they can't get mad at me if i throw this name out there oh i know what you're gonna say kurt signetti to penn state i think he's from pittsburgh i don't know where he's from Yeah, his dad, I think, you're going to say. Kurt Signetti to Penn State.
I think he's from Pittsburgh.

I don't know where he's from.

Yeah, his dad, I think, was the coach at Pittsburgh.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think Kurt Signetti is probably going to get, like,

any job in the country.

I think this might be his last job, though.

I disagree.

He's old.

I think he'll stay for maybe for a couple years,

but someone offers him. He's going to get, a billion.
I'll tell you what. I think I said it last year at the time.
Alabama should have hired him. He was an Alabama coach.
He was, I still think Caleb DeBoer is a good coach. He's just, yeah.
But so Jay, I agree with you. I don't think you can get rid of James Franklin.
They essentially, this entire playoff expansion was like going to a roller coaster and being like, you have to be this high. You have to be this tall to ride the roller coaster.
And then Penn State kept on showing up, and they weren't tall enough. And instead of growing, they just made it a little bit shorter.
So now they're going to get into the playoff. That's essentially what happened to them this year.
They have to win a playoff game. They have to win a playoff game.
They might have a home playoff game. The way the schedule works out, they very well could have a home playoff game.
Which would be awesome. Whiteout? No.
Noon? The whiteout's this weekend. But you're not going to whiteout a playoff game? You wouldn't double whiteout? I don't think you can.
What do you mean? I don't know. You can do whatever you want.
You've got to whiteout a playoff game. You.
You gotta double whiteout. I don't know if you can double whiteout.
You can double whiteout. They do double renegade.
They do double renegade. If so facto, if you can do double renegade, you should be able to do double whiteout.
I mean, what is the most James Franklin possible outcome to this season? So, they make the playoff, they host a playoff game, and then they beat a wildly inferior opponent so they would they're not going to get the five seed they won't get the five seed but they will most likely get if they win out they should get a home playoff yeah top of eight seeds yeah or the they'll be like eight or nine yeah but i'm just right around i'm trying to play like tennessee and get smoked yeah get smoked. Yeah, but if you could pick your choice of the worst of the at-large teams, then you beat them, and then you get smoked in the second round by a good school.
That would be like the quintessential James Franklin, yeah, good season, but. And the Bears hire Cliff Kingsbury, and then the USC hires James Franklin.
Or not Cliff Kingsbury. Lincoln Stinkin' Riley.
Thank you. Best case scenario would be playing like BYU.
Yeah, BYU, though. They're men.
I think Penn State would beat BYU. They're men.
BYU's going to get a bye. Oh, right.
BYU wins out, wins every game. They're a bye.
Well, they don't even need to win out, right? They just need to win the Big 12. Championship, yeah.
Yes. Well, I don't know what just happened in my throat.
There could be like Tulane or who else? Army. If Army wins out, they could be a top four.
They play Notre Dame. Either way, Penn State, James Franklin, it's just the same story every single year.
And it's not a bad story either. Well, it is.
I think it's a pretty good story compared to what it could be. Yeah, but...
I freely acknowledge this is loser talk. I'm looking at this from a perspective of if you're not rooting for a perennial top five team in college football.
Penn State is the best of that next group. They've won national titles.
They have recruiting classes that are on par. They're not like a Wisconsin.
They should be. So I think in that perspective, it is a sad story.
When was their last national championship? The 80s? Yeah, it's been a while. Of course course but I'm saying like they have the it's also a recruit like I know it's hard to get people to go to Happy Valley but like Pennsylvania and the Ohio region like that is a that's a good football region so yeah they should James Franklin like win the fucking big one I mean it shouldn't be the same as getting people to go to Columbus as it as it is getting people to go to happy valley just ohio state pays more money and is better at it well columbus is a city too but happy i get i guess but it's like yeah no it's i never buy that anyway yeah i don't really buy that like penn state is an awesome college town yeah and like a great place for college kids correct yeah and they get a shitload of pros and it's and he just can't win the big one.
Can't win the fucking... They didn't score a touchdown on offense.
They had a fucking... Kodal Nikki.
I just like saying his name. Okay.
Yeah, South Carolina. Awesome defense.
Yes. Fun school.
That is a team where Shane Beamer's got him. He was he was on the hot seat i think last year a little bit but like they they have if a couple bounces go a different way they could have been a playoff team this year because they they almost beat lsu got kind of screwed they were they took alabama to the wire that's a good football team yep and that's a fun fun place on a saturday night too that that that crowd like when i turned on that game i bet south carolina i know that texas am ended up coming back a little bit in the first half but the way that game started i've never i was just like all right nice i want to know how how different schools became the the claim holders to very popular songs so like you know how michigan is now like we were the mr bright side yeah we invented mr bright side south carolina having all the rights to sandstorm is fucking awesome i think that did that just happen because of beamer uh i think that happened the virginia tech was sandstorm no you're inner sandman oh inner sandman that's what i was yeah sandstorm the uh the the like techno song yeah it rocks but yeah when it's at night and they they turn on sand they did it first actually i remember the clip uh when they like first did it so i think they're just the you know the first to recognize sandstorm yeah what does penn state have the oh zombie nation oh yeah that's right yeah penn state has drake why i don't know if it was a drake song oh i think that they'd have gary glitter uh okay hey rock jams yeah jock jams jock jams sweet caroline would be a good one for penn state jock jams uh now this is music yeah you know they're still putting out jock jams are they still put out now i think so damn that's now that's what i call music yeah yeah there's like 50 of putting out jock jams? Are they still putting out now? I think so.
Damn. That's sick.
Now that's what I call music. Yeah, yeah.
There's like 50 of them. Dude, jock jams changed the game.
And by the game, I mean like little school in between innings. Or little league in between innings.
89 they're on now. That's what I call music.
And it's now just streaming? That's kind of sad. Needed in CD.
That's how it goes. Yeah.
Get the jewel case going. Yeah.
So wait, what did, what did James Franklin do to a student? He just got in a verbal disagreement with a fan. I don't know if it was a student or an older fan, but it was a bad luck.
Did he smash his phone? No, he didn't smash his phone. Like you lost that game.
You knew you were going to lose that game. You always lose that game.
Don't act surprised surprised just fucking get into the tunnel but yeah he he like stopped and like had a conversation with the guy now he well some guy was chirping at him and then he asked what's what's your name and then the kid ran away which i don't blame the kid for running away good move by the kid but also such a narc move to say what's your name because just going to, James Franklin's just going to get that kid kicked out of school.

Yeah.

James Franklin cannot be shocked that fans will chirp him and say, fire James Franklin

after he loses for the 10th time in 11 years to Ohio State.

That can't be a shocking thing.

He can't be like, what the fuck?

Didn't you see me beat USC?

Like, what does he say?

No, but I can understand that he's like pissed off.

But you can't, if you're getting paid the amount of money that James Franklin's getting paid, just fucking go to the tunnel, dude. Yeah, be like Nick Sirianni.
Attack your fans after a win. Yeah.
To be like, see? See, no, I'm the opposite. I think that what Sirianni did was worse than what Franklin did.
Getting mad at fans after a win? Yeah. Yes.
I, like, good fuck you energy. No.
Well, it shows that Sirianni's got fucking rocks in the head. Not when it's a win against the Browns where, like, he barely squeaked away with that win.
Okay. Sirianni's just got something off with him.
I think he's a good coach since he shaved his head. I just think he's just, he's got something off.
I think it's all that hair hair was fucking him up I think Sirianni's like when he's like if you had a window into the Eagles facility I think some days he's screaming some days he's like crying and asking for hugs like just emotionally everywhere we just keep going back to my team yeah sorry okay alright I got something different that's not about Max's team okay Okay. I'll save for Hot C Cool Throne.
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Henry. My hot seat are the walls.
Oh, why? Chris McCaffrey is back in practice. Ah.
Looking good. So I guess Ryan Whitney also on the hot seat.
Yeah, so you really threw Ryan under the bus pretty big on that because it was Hank's source for a while and then it became The Walls and then it was actually Ryan Whitney as the source and he's telling The Walls. Nope, I never reported it.
Yeah. So what do you think The Walls got wrong in the story? I don't know.
I don't know what Ryan Whitneyney's source said i think it was probably you know pretty iffy evidence and kind of just hearsay which is why you know a journalist or someone with you know higher integrity would not report such a thing uh but i think it was probably just a rumor that obviously was not true so so what are the walls saying about him being back? Have they given an update? Like what happened? The walls have gone MIA. Oh, okay.
So they're running away from the story. Yeah.
Got it. It's a good thing you never put your name on this.
No, no. That would have been really bad.
I know. Really bad.
I know. We would have had to have our president pug put you in jail.
Pug would love to put me in jail. Yeah.

I like that Pug's just been there for the rest of the show.

I love it.

I kind of like you there, Pug.

He's president.

He's president.

Get Pug on the couch.

Just keep and watch.

Just keep and watch.

You know, any complaints that we have about the show, I'm kicking them directly to Pug.

Yeah.

Okay, your cool turn?

My cool turn is John Morant.

Yeah.

That was pretty cool.

Twice. Very cool.
And it's just kind of, you know, that he's he had a long ass suspension he's back so hank hand up for uh the list or that you want to explain what john morant did yeah explain what he did he got hurt though too right but he hasn't played in yeah yeah but it was the hurt that was last year, it was hurt. How long was the suspension?

I can't remember.

He lost 25 games.

But he also got hurt last year.

Yeah, he got hurt. Yeah, yeah.

He last night had a 360 layup,

which does not give it justice to how sick it was.

It was probably the most athletic, impressive play I've ever seen.

He switched hands.

He went up with his right, did a 360, then switched switched to his left and it was like a 360 around a defender stayed in the air switched to his left hand layup yeah he did a 360 no scope i'm not gonna say that uh i'm not gonna be i would like to see him dunk it uh i disagree in fact watching this layup this now dunk would have been sick i think they should do a layup contest instead of slam dunk contest dude if he dunked this though i mean because he i mean it would be he basically have to defy all gravity to dunk that it was sick john moran's awesome you know i liked watching the layup though it's because i thought to myself like with enough practice i could possibly do that yeah also not true not true but it still made me think yeah okay jammer at cool thrown back all right good job good job hank um my hot seat is bubble teams because college basketball started last night yeah and uh cooper flag i've seen enough i think he's a legit player i can i can report that cooper flag good at basketball uh and joe linardi also put out his first field of 68 i saw this and he included bubble teams and the first four out so joe linardi's before any basketball is played his first four out are villanova shit max we look good last night kind of in the second half first four out um wisconsin is in his first we look good last night i feel like kind of in the second half i feel like lennarty put out this entire thing just to include villanova in wisconsin and piss you guys off uh also yeah he definitely did this on purpose he also has providence as his first four out and he knows that the providence twitter is going to just absolutely roast him and he's a sick, sick savage that likes getting choked out. So he was like, yeah, yeah, Providence, I'm going to kick the hornet's nest on you.
Also, Providence had a duck in their student section. It was awesome.
Hashtag the duck. Yeah.
Providence Twitter is undefeated. We still need to do the interview.
We will do. I've told Josh, our booker, to when Providence comes and plays de paul the king kim english we need to get him in studio so we'll do that uh my cool throne is north korea oh north korea back on the cool throne i don't know if this is true but this is a very funny story very funny report from uh gideon rockman he said a usually reliable source tells me that the North Korean soldiers who have been deployed to Russia have never had unfettered access to the internet before.
As a result, they're gorging on pornography. So North Korea sent a bunch of soldiers to go fight on Russia's side in the Russia versus Ukraine war.
And I don't know if the North Koreans are ever going to get there because they're all jacking off because they get to see porn for the first good for them that's all porn is the great equalizer yeah we used to talk about how no two countries with mcdonald's have ever fought a war against each other yeah it's actually just two countries allow with bang bus memberships have never had a war against each other good for them good for them yeah that's the way to that's the way to solve world peace yeah just get it get an access to you jizz uh okay my hot seat is us uh and it's just because i had a one of those self-reflecting moments the mirror like looking in the mirror being like oh shit i look stupid uh this whole election coverage today especially with the the election everyone uh tweeting confidently as if they know something when they don't know anything it made me realize like this is exactly what i do with all my gambling picks and holy shit am i an idiot yeah like people just tweeting being like i like this is great for this candidate and i know it's going to be a win no you fucking don't yeah it's politics are sports for people who aren't good at sports and who are just i like how do they not even watch sports yeah i don't get it they only get us they only get a sports game once every four years imagine if we only got one football game once every four years well they get pre-season every two years true true but either way i feel stupid imagine a one game season how much that would rock how much would that one game mean that would rock and then you overreact everything how good your team is because you won your one game it would mean everything and then my cool throne is uh the yankees and garrett cole because that was very funny garrett cole opted out reportedly opted out of his contract uh because he had a clause where he could opt out and the yankees would have to add a year and like $36 million. The Yankees basically called his bluff and were like, okay, fine, go ahead.
And then Garakol's like, just kidding, I'm not going to opt out. So he opted out of his opt-out.
Yeah. That's good.
Yeah. I like that.
Just very funny that he, I mean, maybe Brian Cashman's growing a set because he was just like, yeah, go ahead. You think Brian Cashman.
Should have covered first, dude. Brian Cashman was climbing a building somewhere and got a text.
Without a doubt. He's opted out, and by the time he repelled, he's like, hey, he opted back in.
Yeah. But it was, yeah, Garrett Cole.
He just immediately was like, ah, can I get that opt-out back? I don't want to do that. So he's still a Yankee.
And we have the Juan Soto sweepstakes starting to heat up, Max.

And everyone.

I think he's going to get $700 million. Yeah, no, I'd like to walk that take back.

Yeah, there we go.

I think he's going to get a stupid amount of money.

I think it's going to be insane.

But the fact that the way he's going about it just means that, like.

Yeah.

He doesn't give a fuck who's giving him this money.

Yeah.

Not at all.

He might play for, like, if Saudi Arabia started a baseball league, he might end up there. It would be very funny if someone, I don't know what team it would be, maybe, like, the Diamondbacks.
Or, like, what if the Pirates were like, hey, we're not going to actually keep him for this entire time, but let's just sign him. Just for one year? Yeah, we'll trade him.
I took a wager on the DraftKings Sportsbook of any other team. I feel like if there was ever on any other team, it would be this one because it could be anyone.
Who was the any other team? The Phillies were in the any other team, but there was also plenty. Who was in the other side? Yankees, Dodgers, Mets.
Here, let me pull up a screenshot of it. Any other team.
The Dodgers, that would be very funny. Okay.
It's the Yankees, the Mets, the Dodgers, the Cubs, the Blue Jays, the Nationals, the Giants, the Red Sox, the Mariners, the Padres, the Tigers, and then any other team. I don't know about that, Max.
Well, the Phillies weren't any other teams. I mean, there's a lot of other teams in any other team.
There's so many other teams. And there's a lot of rich guys that own those other teams that could just decide, let's make a splash.
Tigers would be a fun one. Tigers would be a fun one.
They would be. Actually, you know what? I'm calling it.
I think that Juan Soto will be signing with the Mideast Falcons based out of united arab emirates uh in abu dhabi it's a league that's opening up next year he's in that's where all the money is he's in uh okay let's uh let's do our interview with brian baldinger great time with baldy and then we wrap up with listener submitted roasts uh which were great as we progress through the season every fan knows that big wins are hard to come by and tough losses are even harder to accept. But you know what isn't hard to accept? Discover.
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Baldy, week nine, halfway point. I'm happy to have you here because we love talking ball with you.

I want to ask the first question is the question that I think is probably the most important question in the NFL right now.

How the fuck do you stop the Detroit Lions on offense?

Can you play with 12 men?

Can you find an extra guy? I feel like every team is a man short. Green Bay was a man short last week.
Their offensive line, it's a battle between Detroit and Philadelphia, who has the best right now. But, you know, Panay Sewell can move.
I mean, you could just put a piano on that guy's back. He'll take it up 18 flights of stairs for you he's just a different difference maker

but they just have the perfect combination right now uh montgomery who's your muttering closer jameer gibbs who's your home run hitter and oh by the way jared goff doesn't miss an open receiver so they're they're pretty much unstoppable on offense right now and i don't know i don't know what defense is out there right now that can keep them under 30 points at this at this stage yeah yeah i guess the formula would be just don't let their offense on the field yeah just if you can you know you play keep away yeah run the play boy is one way or limit the number of possessions you know where you can limit them to seven or eight possessions because they're going to get jameson back and jay mo you know from anywhere on the field he's just maybe as good a home run hitter as there is in football and so he's coming back um which is even going to make them more dynamic right now yeah and what do you think about about the trade so they they bolstered up their defense today and so now it becomes even harder to do anything against them well you know sometimes you need the right guy right like Zedarius Smith to me is he's a guy that you want in your building you got a smile on his face every day he's a tireless worker he's not Aiden Hutchinson don't get me wrong but he has that culture to him him. He was drafted by Baltimore.
Everywhere he's been, he adds a little something-something to the team, his work ethic. He is a good pass rusher, and he's a tireless worker.
He's going to fit in really well. They need that right now.
That was a good pickup. There was other guys out there, but Sedaris is still playing a lot of snaps.
He's not an aged veteran where you just put him on a pitch count and you send him out there. He's a legitimate every down player right now.
We were talking about this on Sunday night, but missing Aiden Hutchinson feels like the Lions, they're going to miss him for sure, but they're still a good enough team to at least appear right now to be the class of the NFC. But the problem would be if their defensive line suffered another injury and they're already down Aiden Hutchinson.
Now what do you do? So I feel like by doing this move at the trade deadline, they've just made themselves a little bit safer. Yeah, look, but, you know, they gave up 400 yards of offense to Tennessee the week before.
They didn't look like a dynamic defense. They lost Brian Branch last week during the game.
Kirby Joseph took his place. I mean, leads the league in interceptions with six.
He's had 14 in the last two and a half years. I mean, nobody talks about Kirby Joseph on the back end, but I feel like, you know, Hutch was a big part of the pressure that forced quarterbacks to throw the ball up to your free safety, let them come down with it.
But, you know, they're still talented. I mean, Lee McNeil and DJ Reader inside, it's tough to run against those guys inside.
You can scheme, pass rush a little bit, but you're going to be a little vulnerable on the back end. So this just makes a lot of sense.
of sense. It's the arms race right now.
You're going to see a lot of teams make moves. I won't be surprised to see Gedevian Clowney get picked up by a good team right now.
Whether it's receivers, whether it's defensive linemen, guys that change the game right now, I think are going to be on the move here sometime today. Yeah, it does feel like there's going to be an active trade deadline.
All right, so the other team, I have it right now, it's obviously the Lions or the Kings of the NFC right now. The Chiefs are undefeated.
The Chiefs, I feel like when watching the Chiefs, people are frustrated because they don't look dominant, but I think they're just as good as they've

ever been because they play great defense, they can run the ball when they have to, and

they also are just insane on third down.

It's essentially like every Chiefs game, they fuck around and then third down comes and

they figure it out.

What is it, like, if you're an AFC contender and you're looking at the Chiefs, is there

something that can be exploited or is it like these guys just keep doing the same thing and Patrick Mahomes is going to be there in the Super Bowl in February? Well, they don't just keep doing the same things. I mean, DeAndre Hopkins makes a difference.
Yeah. You know, I mean look, he's been there two weeks.
He's catching two touchdown passes. You know, it's third and eight and Mahomes throws it.
The good thing about Mahomes, he could care less about his everybody will talk about nine interceptions and like he threw the ball into triple coverage last night DeAndre Hopkins he already trusted him to go up and get it and there's Antoine Winfield Jr. back there the highest paid safety in football and he's looking at his glove like he's got a hole in his glove yeah well Hop just took it away from him so you know he scores two touchdowns night.
They take the drive in overtime right down the field, 10 plays, 70 yards. You know, if they want to run it, because some teams can't run it when they have to run it.
Well, Kareem Hunt ran 20 times for 90 yards in the game-winning touchdown in the second half last night. If they want to just be a power-running football team, they're as good as anybody.
If they want to throw it, like Travis Kelsey, the last two weeks, has got 28 targets and 20 catches and 190 yards. If they just throw it to Kelsey and Nuke right now, they're going to be just fine.
And then they go get Josh O'Shea to rush the passer. I mean, they know exactly the weaknesses, what they needed to address, and they've done it.
And so they've got the best player in the league, the most creative coach in the league. They're ready to three-peat right now.
Yeah. What do you think about Xavier Worthy? Because we all know he's fast.
We all know what we saw at least like week one from him. He's fast.
The man is fast. You can definitely say that about him.
I don't know if he's a great football player right now, but he's at least a threat in theory that he's going to go downfield do they would you consider him to be a guy that's going to affect the defense at all just because you have to know that he's there he's like he's like a chief gadget player at this point you know you can run him on some reverses like they did week one where he got a you know a touchdown off a reverse you know last week the last night you know i mean for him not to get his feet in bounds right there is ridiculous. I mean, that's just lack of awareness.
And maybe he's just young, who knows. But, you know, it's just hard.
Outside of Tyreek Hill, honestly, it's hard for a small guy to be a dominant player in this league. It's just too easy to cover him up.
All these corners. Look, Worthy can run a 4-2 in the 40 or 4-1-8 at a combine whatever it was but every corner can run in 4-3 so if you're a 6-1 corner and you're covering xavier worthy you're not going to get a lot of separation you're just not i mean you're going to get these 6-1 corners just shadowing them it's going to be hard to get them the ball yeah that And that's what you see.
That's why they keep going out to get guys. Go get me.
I'd rather have a big power forward than a small power forward any day. Give me, you know, 6'4 nuke out there over a 5'10, you know, Xavier Worthy at this point.
Yeah. So in the AFC, who do you have second behind the Chiefs right now? Is it the Bills? The Steelers look really good.
The Ravens? Well, you got to consider the Ravens right now. I mean, they're going to – they meet next week in Pittsburgh.
I'll be doing that game. Like that game is just played differently than every other game in pro football in today's world.
Like it looks like I expect Troy Palomaro to walk out and Ray Lewis to walk out. I anticipate just, like, literally just full-speed collisions.
It's just different. It's just violent.
It's so much fun. Like, I wish everybody could just be on the sideline for that game and just hear the collisions.
It's going to feel like a NASCAR pileup. But you've got to consider Baltimore.
You've got to consider Buffalo the way they're

playing because they are an excellent running football team right now. And they use all three backs.
And Josh Allen, the way that Joe Brady is putting this offense together, they just create so much space to make easy throws, whether it's to Coleman or whether it's to Shakir or to Kincaid. It doesn't matter.

Like they're creating space.

And then Josh can create his own offense when he needs to. And so you have to consider Buffalo.
So Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo for sure. And I don't want to count Cincinnati out yet.
They just made a move to get a running back because Burrow is just going to – he's just a flamethrower. He's an assassin.
He's just going to keep firing until they get this thing right, and they're still in it. So these games are going to be big down the stretch.
They're in a crypt. But if anybody can come out of a crypt, it's Joe Burrow.
So you mentioned Cincinnati. They picked up Khalil Herbert from the Bears.
I have to ask a difficult question about the Bears because it's ugly right now and Khalil Herbert also said thank you God when he got traded so that doesn't feel good so the tape I actually watched some of it on Monday which I tortured myself what is the fix for me and you can tell me if I'm way off but it does feel like Caleb Williams is pressing a little bit where

there's some easy stuff underneath

take the ones they give you

and a lot of home run stuff and I

don't know like the locker room feels

bad everything feels bad right now

is there something on tape

that you're watching that you're like this is how

they can maybe right the ship a little bit

well some

of the things that they do defensively

first of all I'll get to Caleb but like

you know Di Mercado goes 50-something yards, you know, with 20 seconds to go in the half. I don't know what defense they're in.
I don't know. They're blitzing on the play.
Like, it's 20 seconds to go in the half. Just like the week before against Washington, you just give, you know, Terry McLaurin, you know, 13 yards of field position

from six seconds to two seconds to throw the Hail Mary.

Yep.

Like it's just – something's just missing their defense

because they're a good defense.

They just give up these plays that they shouldn't give up.

Yeah.

Then offensively, like you can't take anything away

from the cornerback play of the Arizona Cardinals.

They deed up every receiver.

DJ Moore. They deed up, you know, Keenan Allen.
They deed up Aroma Doonsay. They were all over

the place, those defensive backs. And so I give Arizona a lot of credit.
And then, you know,

Buda Baker, his blitzes and timely blitzes. And then the offensive line of Chicago, honestly,

like they're not very good. They're very average.
When they run the ball really good, the offense looks a lot better like they did when they had a little win streak going. They lost the left tackle against Washington.
They lost Jenkins against Washington. They got these backups in there.
They had this kid Armagaychi from Yale, their third-round pick. They didn't even dress him last week.
He was so bad against Washington. He was an inactive player.
So, you know, they don't have good depth there behind the five guys. And the five they have are just an average group right now.
Yeah. It's bad.
It's ugly. You mentioned the Bengals.
I think this is as close as you'll ever see to the Bengals being all in on a season. Because this is the third trade that they've ever made as a franchise in history.
They've only traded for three guys. And it was for a backup running back.
And it was for a backup running back. The Cincinnati Bengals, ladies and gentlemen, are all in right now.
I wouldn't say that Mike Brown throws money at any issue. Yeah.
Not really their style in Cincinnati. Yeah.
They lost Zach Moss. I don't know how long he was out for.
He was

their starting running back.

They got Chase Brown,

who's a good back. And Khalil Herbert,

I never really understood why Chicago

wasn't playing him. I thought he was

a really good back with Montgomery there.

He's had really good days in his

league, and he's not playing.

They went with Roshon Johnson.

He's fresh as can be. He hasn't played at all this year, but I think he's still a good back they went with Roshon Johnson.
So he's fresh as can be.

He hasn't played at all this year, but I think he's still a good back.

He's a good contact runner.

They want to be able to balance things up a little bit.

So, you know, if you put Khalil in there in that offense with Chase Brown and you get T. Higgins in that receiving core with Jamar, like offensively, they're capable of putting

30 up on anybody.

And then on the NFC side of things, Baldy, you watch the tape. How much tape are we grinding these days? Oh, every game.
Every game, every week. When are you done with every game? Like what time of the week are you done with every game? Well, like I got a little head start on Sunday because I did the Eagles game against Jacksonville.
So I was able to come into my office here at NFL Films after the game and get a start. So usually it's 15 hours on Monday, and it's 15 hours on Tuesday.
And I try to get all of them done by Tuesday night, but sometimes it leaks into Wednesday. That's awesome.
I feel like, you know, honestly, like every – like there's bad teams in this league, obviously. Darren Rizzi's taken over for head coach in New Orleans.

They're a bad team, but they have some good players on the team.

So I feel like all 32 teams should get represented by Baldy's breakdown.

Yeah, I love it.

You owe it to them.

You owe it to the players.

It's actually funny.

You watch more football on Monday and Tuesday than you do on Sunday.

Yes.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

That, like, twice as much.

That's awesome.

So one question I had about the NFC side of things is the 49ers because we feel like the 49ers could put it all together. Kyle Shanahan, pretty good coach in the second half of seasons, not necessarily of games, but of seasons.
And so everyone's kind of like waiting for them to get on that little roll here. What do you see in the tape from the 49ers so far? Obviously no Christian McCaffrey yet, but what do you see on tape? And does it tell you that this is still a good football team that can improve? Or is this a flawed football team? They're not, I mean, they're not what they were the last two and a half years without McCaffrey, but they still run the ball very well with Jordan Mason and Isaac Garendo.
They've been excellent in the run game. You know, they lost Ayuk.
He was never really a big factor after the holdout. So, you know, maybe Ricky Pearsall can pick it up.
Kittle's having an amazing season. The quarterback is throwing 10 touchdown passes in eight games.
It's not good enough. Not good enough in the red zone right now, but maybe Pearsall coming on.
Maybe McCaffrey, he started practicing. Maybe he comes back.
We don't know what we're going to get yet. And defensively, they've been good.
They just haven't been great yet. I expect them to make a move for defensive linemen here at some point today.
Maybe Clowney. Maybe help up front.
But the thing that's held them together, honestly, is they've got an awesome rookie class. Like this Dominic Pune, this Mustafa Green.
You look at Pearsall. They've got Garendo.
Their rookie class has been amazing. All good teams need juice from their rookies.
But the NFC West right now, Arizona leads it at 5-4. They just made a move to get a defensive pass rusher.
The Rams are going to make a second-half push. They're too well coached, and they're getting good players back.
And the four guys they've drafted on the defensive line, Fisk and Verse this year, Brown and Turner last year, they're really good and only getting better. So it's going to be – it might come down to the 49ers at Arizona in week 18 this year to see who comes out of that division.
Yeah, it's crazy. NFC West has four – I wouldn't say no one's running away with it, but the four teams that they have are all good teams, can beat anyone.
So week nine is right around where we're getting to the real football and the narratives kind of like, hey, early season narratives are you are what you are. What team is it that you're watching that you're like, hey, this team is starting to play really well and people aren't really paying attention to it right now.
They maybe started a little bit slower and they're in the muck and they're not the Chiefs or the Lions or the Ravens, but they're coming on and they're going to be a force at the end. Maybe it was just the Rams, but if you have another one.
Well, I mean, even last night, I mean, Tampa's playing without Mike Evans right now. But he means the biggest red zone threat in this league since Randy Moss.
And they're not going to have the same firepower without Mike Evans, but they've dealt with their share of injuries. Nobody's making any excuses, but they're running the ball way better than they ever have, and Baker's playing good football, and maybe they should have gone for two when they scored, you know, at the end of the game last.
Maybe they should have gone for two on the road to go win the game. Maybe that would have been the right call.
Who knows? But they took Kansas City to the brink. Like, I think they still are a good football team.
I know Leanna's got a two-gamegame lead on them in the division but i believe that they could still be a good second half team they're playing a lot of young guys um that's not a bad thing sometimes if you got the right guys they're going to be a lot better at the end of the season they started a corner last night that's never started or played before like sometimes these guys just need to get seasoned and you know they could be good additions at the end of the year. Yeah, the Bucs is a good answer

too, because their schedule

I think gets a little bit easier.

They've been playing some really,

really good teams. I know they have the 49ers this week,

but after that, they still got to play

the Panthers, I believe,

twice. They still got to play

the Saints. They have the Raiders.

They can, and the Cowboys, I mean, the Cowboys are dead, right? That season's over. Well, you know, we said this, though.
Like, you know, when free agency hit and the Eagles were out there signing, you know, Saquon Barkley and making all these moves, and the Cowboys were signing a free – you know, a long snapper. Like, we said that the roster isn't good enough to compete.
And then you look at Dan Quinn leaving Dallas and bringing in, you know, 15 free agents that are all starting. And they're all, you know, you know, whether it's Bobby Wagner or Frank Louvoo, you know, you just look at what they did.
They rebuilt the team and they're much better than Dallas right now. So I just like, look, they've played without Micah Parsons and Tank Lawrence.
Nobody would be good defensively without those guys. But, you know, offensively, they're a challenged football team.
I don't know what Jonathan Mingo does for this receiving core right now. Oh, yeah.
I played for the Cowboys. They always had great running backs, always.
You're going back to Dan Reeves and, you know, Walt Garrison they you know tony dorsett and emin oh they to see them line up with the running backs they have is just a mystery to me you study the history of that organization yeah um in the nfc east it's it does seem like it's down to two teams the commanders and the eagles um i am a commanders fan but i i feel like i'm a realistic commanders fan in that that I think that the Eagles have a better roster than us. I think that they're a better team than Washington right now.
But Washington's on a roll. They beat every team that they should beat.
They've struggled against some of the better competition they played. But how do you see it shaking out between the Eagles and the Commies? Well, I mean, right now you can't get Jayden Daniels to make a mistake.

Like he just plays mistake-free football every week.

And it's not because he's, you know,

he's playing conservative football.

I mean, the guy's just, he's Lamar Jackson,

you know, and what he's been able to do right now.

Cliff Kingsbury's been perfect for him.

And so their offense is really good.

I think defensively, they're very average.

They've been playing with a big lead. And so Dan Quinn's been able to blitz a lot to get pressure.
And if they give up a play, they've been able to overcome it. But I think they're average on defense.
But you wouldn't know it by watching how confident they play right now. But they're a legit offense right now because of the way they can run the ball, control the ball.
They score at a very high percentage right now of possessions that they get. And so it's hard to get the ball away from.
Giants tried like hell last week. They couldn't get it away.
They couldn't get them to make a mistake. So they win these close games because of that.
Yeah, three turnovers this year. That's a record so far.
Like, it's crazy. Only three turnovers this far through the season.
And the the eagles on the other hand though the eagles do seem like they've figured something out in the last three weeks yeah they look like a different team so what have they figured out well i mean you know some of the players went to nick during the bye week and they're like look we're holding the ball forever we're getting away from the run game let's just get back to running the ball and play action passes. And that's what they've been doing.
And with that, like, I think Saquon's going to win the rushing title. Like, I know Derrick Henry leads the league in rushing, but I think Saquon's going to win it.
I think their offense line is better than Baltimore's. And I think that you watch Makai Beckton in there at right guard, like, he's just, you know, he's just he's just a freak.
Like the way he can move people with Lane Johnson and, you know, they're going to get Malata back and Landon Dickerson. Like if they just keep running it and get A.J.
Brown back and play action pass, they're going to be a very difficult offense to stop. Yeah.
Whoever they play. They just pulverize people right now.
Like Dallas better wear that double chin strap this weekend when they come down there to Dallas to play them. Like it's always a battle with these two teams, but I think Philadelphia can really attack Dallas where they're the weakest.
They're bad run defense. And they might look like that on Sunday.
Yeah. It's a Saquon Barkley would be going for the Russian, rushing title in the last week of the season against the giants.
And I don't think that Saquon's going to take him out like he did a couple weeks ago. That'll make every Giant fan feel good.
Yeah, I think Saquon, in that one, he's going to be like, yeah, you know what? Screw the younger guys. I'm going to just play the full game here.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's on pace for over 2,000 yards. So he's playing the best he's ever played.
Yeah, he's been incredible. So, Baldy, on Monday's show, we talked about there's nine teams that have two wins, which is crazy.
We came up with the concept, the Tuber Bowl, where we're going to have a final four of the two-win teams. I think, what, do we have the Dolphins winning it all? I think we have the Dolphins.
Are you guys putting that up against the Puppy Bowl? Yeah, we should. We should.
I mean, listen, the fact that there are nine teams with two wins is actually mathematically almost impossible to have right now. It's crazy.
So my question to you, though, is two wins, you're not going to go to the playoffs. Statistically, it is almost impossible.
But one or two of those two-win teams is going to be spoiler,

is going to play better than they are right now in terms of their record.

Who are those teams?

What are the two-win teams that you're like, watch out,

that's not an easy one, they are still playing hard,

and they still got a lot of talent?

Oh, Tennessee Titans.

Yeah.

Tennessee for sure.

Like they legitimately can run the football. You know, Pollard's having a good season.
Bill Callahan's coaching the offensive line. J.C.
Latham was the right pick at left tackle. Skaranski was the right pick the year before.
They're building their lines. You look at teams that end up turning things around.
Look in the trenches and see what they have. Watch Devon.
Like one of my favorite players in this league is Devon Dre Sweat. I call him T-Pain because he just brings pain.
He's 360 pounds. Like he can run.
He can like make like miserable for any offensive lineman. You put him next to Jeffrey Simmons.
Like they've been in a lot of games. They won last week.
They put up 400 something yards offense against Detroit

the week before. That's

a team that if you have that

bowl game on Super Bowl up

against the Puppy Bowl, I've watched the

Titans against somebody else instead of the Puppy

Bowl. You got to, by the way,

T-Pain's a good nickname, but his nickname

is Meatloaf. You got to go with Meatloaf.

Meatloaf is good, but

anybody can call a big guy Meatloaf.

I feel like T-Pain

Thank you. I mean, T-Pain's a good nickname, but his nickname's Meatloaf.
You got to go with Meatloaf. I know.
Meatloaf is good, but anybody can call a big guy Meatloaf. I feel like T-Pain is a good rapper's name.
It's a great – like, I'm changing it from Meatloaf to T-Pain. I love watching that good play.
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you on the Titans. I've been ridiculed because I've been betting them a lot because I think their defense is still a top-ten defense, and they've had trouble with the quarterback.
So that's one. What's another two-win team that people should be looking out for where it's like, hey, don't take them lightly.
They'll play spoiler. Well, the Giants, I mean, look, the quarterback is a problem.
But they have talent. Yeah.
Like, you know, this, you know, you look at, you know, Brian Burns, dexter lawrence you know uh ojalary uh okara key they've got talent offensive line has actually played pretty good considering they lost their best player you know and andrew thomas they've actually played pretty good this tyrone tracy running back this kid out of purdue like he's had some big games this year and mal Malik Nabors might be the best rookie wide receiver. Like, they still have talent.
They're in these games. You know, they could have beaten Cincinnati.
They could have beaten Washington last week. I know could have, would have, should have.
I know all that. But still, like, they could still – they still play hard.
They haven't packed it in yet. You can question coaching decisions, some of this stuff.
But, like, I wouldn't take that team lightly on any given week. Can you tell us a little bit about the Saints interim head coach? Because we're big fans.
Yeah, yeah. He looks like a football guy.
And one of the things I like about him is on his Wikipedia page, when you look up any biographical info about this guy, all they have is just football. So he's only done football.
there's absolutely no fun facts about him out there which i think is good for an interim head coach but can you tell us something about him what should we expect from him well he's got the best military marine corps haircut going in the nfl like it's right it's johnny unitas like it's right out of 50s you know um he's just look he's been he's been in Miami and New Orleans since leaving you know the small college ranks he's been special teams coach and he's been an assistant head coach in a lot of places like he is now he was assistant head coach here in New Orleans he was assistant head coach when Dan Campbell was down in Miami um and if you look at one little aspect right now of what they've done in New Orleans, he believes in putting the ball in play on kickoffs and covering the kickoffs. If you look at them, they probably have returned more kicks, had teams return the kicks more than any other team.
And he does it for two reasons. One, he wants his coverage team to get action.
And sometimes your defense is a product of your kickoff coverage team. And then number two, he tells me that one quarter of all kicks have a penalty by the receiving team, which backs you up.
And instead of getting the ball at the 30, you might get it to 15. And so I just think that's a creative aspect to this whole kickoff rule that looks boring to everybody else but in new orleans they've been covering kicks all year and they've actually had good success doing it yeah yeah uh baldy i gotta ask this question because of our producer memes who's a diehard jets fan is there a path yes oh okay there's a path they go to arizona they go to arizona after this bye and so um you know look it's it you know you beat a good team on the road arizona is a good team right now they don't beat themselves you go down there beat arizona you get to your fourth win all right now you start you start that feeling you can see how a and Devontae are starting to come together.

You saw what Aaron and Garrett's doing.

And they actually played that game against Houston with two backup guards in there.

They had the rookie in there, Olu Fashano, at right guard,

Max Mitchell at left guard.

They actually look better.

Like, if they have injuries at the offense line

and Morgan Moses can't make it or, you know,

Tyron Smith just falls apart because of his age,

Thank you. Like, if they have injuries at the offensive line, Morgan Moses can't make it, or, you know, Tyron Smith just falls apart because of his age, I feel like they've got backups in there that can get Brees Hall going.
Like, there's a path. There's a path because I think the best football can still be in front of them.
Yeah. Okay.
He's going to love that. That got memes very excited.
You just gave him life for the next two weeks. That AFC playoff picture is going to be very interesting because you got those five teams, you could say right now, in the Chargers, the Broncos, the Colts, the Jets, and the Bengals.
And it's going to probably be two spots for those five teams. And if everything else holds in terms of the Steelers and the Texans and everything.
I love the Chargers. I love the way they're playing football.
I don't know what that seventh seed would be. I don't know who's going to get hot.
If it's the Bengals, the Jets. I mean, the Broncos are a five-win team.
They obviously look bad against the Ravens, but they have some nice things as well. Well, I mean, up until last week, Baltimore, it was just too much Lamar.
He was just, you know, he had his fourth perfect quarterback rating. Oh, by the way, that's the most in NFL history of anybody, Peyton Manning, anyone.
Four perfect quarterback games. I mean, they couldn't do anything to stop them.
But Denver's a legit defensive team. They're very well built.
And look, the quarterback was not last week against baltimore but sean payton's done a good job coaching that kid like they're they're well coached like they're they're gonna win their share of games here and be in the playoff picture into december yeah what about the chargers what about our guy harbaugh uh he's done a great job so far the chargers haven't looked splashy they haven't flashy. They're not a sexy team right now.
They're playing great defense. What is making

the Chargers... Well, not just great defense.

They're the best defensive football right now.

They've had three games this year where they haven't given

up a touchdown. And last week,

they're doing it with two rookie corners,

two fifth-round corners

that are starting, you know,

and they were able to keep

everybody out of the end zone there.

Cleveland, who came off a great

game, and Jameis Winston looked like Jameis Winston, you know, what we're used to seeing Jameis last week against them. They played great.
You know, they've always been a bad tackling team and an injured team. Well, they're not an injured team right now, and they're not a bad tackling team.
So the hardball effect has taken effect effect and now they're getting plays you know lad mcconkey is becoming a really good player and quinton johnston well no cleveland just gave them free touchdowns last week like i don't know what they did like the right hand wasn't talking the left hand the left guy's wide open but still i mean this is a like they're gonna they're gonna make noise they they're they're playing the way harbaugh wants them to play if they're not but when you are the number one defensive football you're the number one defensive football if teams aren't scoring touchdowns you have a chance to win every week yep yeah yeah they've been great and so baldy one thing i love about you uh obviously the film you watch all the film but you have a uh you have a love of just physical football and the most physical dudes in the league who's one guy that you've been watching this year that's getting you excited that's like you know that's a physical man well i mean i love watching uh dominic pooney play in san francisco like every team needs a pooney you know i mean we never talk about guards but guards are people too, yeah. That guy's played every snap for San Francisco this year.
Like, he's just a great – he's a great kid. Doesn't say two words.
Tafondre Sweat. I got – T-Pain is legit.
Meatloaf. That guy – people that are 370 pounds shouldn't be able to move like that and play 70% of the snaps.
Like, he's fun to watch. You know, and then if you look at Daniel Falalele in Baltimore at 390 pounds, like, you know, you can't – he's an eclipse.
Like, he just blocks out the sun. There's a reason why Derrick Henry runs behind him for these 10 touchdowns he's run for.
You can't see around him't see around them. You can't see through them.
Like those guys are just fun to watch. Yeah.
Every team needs a poony. Yeah.
All right. Baldi has been so much fun.
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Kevin O'Connell's a great coach. But what's an under-the-radar coordinator that you're like, man, this guy is dialed in and he's hitting all the right buttons? I feel like Joe Brady in Buffalo is that guy.
I was just watching and studying the game this weekend against Miami, which was a great game. The two, it couldn't play any better, but what he does by formations and his route combinations is he just creates space.
Like you could take three receivers on one side and run them on vertical routes. And all you're doing is creating space for somebody coming on a drag or a cross, and there's this big window there.

And he constantly – and so it's easy throws for Josh.

And then, you know, they run it more than they throw it,

like all the good teams in the league now.

It's been a huge shift.

Like there's 10 good teams in this league that are like the Eagles

that are running it 56% of the time, the most in the league.

But Baltimore, Detroit, San Francisco, Kansas City is 50-50. Like the best teams in the league are running it more than they're throwing it now.
But then if you look at the coordinators, what are they doing in the passing game? Like they're making these throws really easy and identifiable for Josh. He'll take all the easy throws you want to give him.
And then, you know, at the end of the day, when he has to make a play, he's still Josh Allen.

So I feel like Joe Brady in the passing game right now

is very under the radar.

Yeah, that's a good answer.

Yeah, so what teams out there could be thinking Soupy right now?

How many teams are actual Super Bowl contenders?

Give them to us on your –

Count them with your hands.

I want to see your hands.

Well, I mean, you know, you go Detroit, Philadelphia right now, Baltimore, Kansas City. Like those four look like Final Four teams.
But, you know, you've got to consider what Minnesota can do because of the firepower and offense and what Flores does on defense. You've got to still consider Houston.
They're going to get Nico Collins back. He's going to make a difference right now.
You feel like either the Rams or the 49ers, one of those two teams is going to come out of the West and they'll be really well tested. You know, I wouldn't go to sleep on Atlanta at all.
Bijan looks like he's poised to have a great second half of the season the way they used him last week uh drake london pits what kirk is asked to do and defensively they've got playmakers in the back end like i feel like those are eight legitimate teams right there yeah yeah yeah i mean it's as much as the nine two-win teams and there's some bad teams it does feel very wide open at the top in the fact that we have some great football coming up. Yeah, oh yeah.
No, this is going to be Thanksgiving before we know it. You're going to get three games on Thanksgiving.
Look, maybe Dallas Giants doesn't float your boat on Thanksgiving, but other games will. Then we get to the holiday season where we have games Saturday and Sunday all the all the way through this you know and so and monday night and thursday so it's it's going to be all football all the time uh when we get to december and these games are all going to get flexed you're going to get great games in these windows and so just get on your couch and get your remote ready yeah i love it are you gonna wake up to watch the the Giants and the Panthers? Well, I'm always awake, so I don't have to worry about that.
I want to see the Panthers. Because I think that Robert Hunt is an underrated guard, and Chuba Hubbard can run through anybody.
So, yeah, I'm anxious to see that game. You're the only one.
You're the only one anxious to see that game.

It's great. I've always got an eye on the Giants just because I still feel like

there's something still

there that maybe

they can unlock. Two years ago, they

made a run to the playoffs. Nobody thought

they could. Who knows? Maybe

it just gets unlocked. You've inspired me to be

a better football fan. I was considering taking that

game off, but you might have talked me into it. Yeah.
All right. Well, Baldy, thank you as always.
We love having you on. We'll have you back on closer to Christmas time.
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Oh, that's memes. Memes has got a bad reputation around here.
Memes is roided now that's actually that's a compliment but memes uh memes got a there was there's some scuttlebutt because memes apparently tried to fight someone during pickup basketball on friday which means i have your back now that i know that jack mccarthy tried to take you down midair that's a fight worthy play it was a walk-in layup yeah that's a's a fight worthy play. If you're in the air, that's a dangerous play.

You do have anger issues, though.

I could get to a point where I get very angry, but I think it's fine.

We got a bunch of babies, though.

It was not that serious.

It wasn't like a –

Have you seen the tape?

Were you there?

Yeah.

Oh.

Yeah, so I'm on meme's side. I mean, memes went up to Jack McCarthy, screamed in his face, do you want to go? You almost? I don't know how much closer it can get to fighting.
Can you narrate for us? Because we haven't seen the tape. We don't know what happened.
I didn't see that part. I heard from what memes told us about the play.
What was the play? It was the foul, right? Some people... I didn't see the foul.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I want to hear...
I got to get a little context, though, before you talk about the play, because some people are saying memes was called for a travel on the play before, and he was mad about that. That was the base of all anger.
Okay, all right, so let's take it from the start. So memes flagrantly traveled.
Yes. I was not playing in the game, so I didn't see any of what into it.
Some would say it's a gather step. Eight steps.
I heard eight steps. I was coming down, spun.
We're gonna have to get this to you. Two extra steps, threw it up behind me, hit off the backboard, went in.
It was a sick play. Okay, so you spun and then took two steps.
That sounds like walk the gather step was a spin okay all right so go ahead hank but if it if it misses then i probably was just like yeah it was travel yeah no that was i just don't i think uh you know did you when you're playing competitive basketball sometimes like yeah it's rise but it's not that it wasn't that serious what happened what? What memes just said. He just said it.
The does walk. I didn't think it was a walk.
I didn't think it was like that. And then they were just they were just John.
Yeah. But on the layup.
Was he did he pull him down? I didn't think so. I thought I mean, it was a physical play.
Like, yeah. No easy buckets.
Nineties basketball. Not even.
Everyone's just everyone's just divas. Do you what what do you think about do you want to go i mean memes does have the i defend memes here memes also does i mean there was that time it was two weeks ago when i came in and memes i think he had had his fist clenched for like three hours because i walked in and he looked like he wanted to punch it that's fair but i think i think there's like you can ask someone if you want to go if you actually throw a punch then you have an have an anger problem.
That's true. When you're in a heated, if you're in a basketball game and you're in between the lines, that can get to a point.
You can be like, oh, you want to go? But that doesn't necessarily. Max, in that context, Max fully threw his bottle cap at Stephen Jay as hard as he could from point blank.
Good point. That's correct.
Good point. What was wasn't.
What was that for? He kept. He started rooting for the Jags.
He was doing the first down. Oh, yeah.
He started doing it for no reason. Yeah.
Just to make Max angry. Yeah.
Sounds like boys will be boys. If you ask somebody you want to go, like that's you're asking for consent.
You should be taught to do that. And it's like if somebody that is weak says that to you, then it's not a big problem.
But then when a roided out macho man like memes says it and it's like, oh, no. Yeah, it's like having an ugly dude ask you out as opposed to an attractive guy.
Memes, let me ask you a quick question. How many people in this office have you? You're not.
I don't. I actually don't.
I'm not concerned about you fighting anyone. But how many people have you visualized beating up? Not beating up.
But like punching. And how many of those people are in this room right here? No, I genuinely like you guys.
But there's been moments. Yeah, that's got to be 100%.
Yeah. No, probably just Max.
Hank? You're saying Hank? Yeah, but Hank doesn't yell. Yelling triggers me.

Max just like, we could be talking about offensive linemen and he'll just... Max gets to a level of just office chatter

and he'll just start screaming.

I'm a passionate guy.

But you've definitely wanted to punch Hank.

That's a lie if you say opposite.

No, Hank gave me a job.

Yeah, but in that job there have been moments where you're like, I wish he never gave me this job yeah but there's nothing that's been that serious and then looking back it's just always overblown yeah yeah which falls back on an anger problem Meeves does say the anger sharks are swimming out loud he says that about me often whenever I start to get angry because it's the Philly guy the anger sharks are swimming that sounds like something you'd say to a toddler it's from anger management this is how dedicated to the game memes is he steps in and intervenes on himself by thinking of a meme to calm him down the anger sharks are swimming I love it next one a Taylor Swift podcast that sometimes discusses current sports is hosted by a 40-year-old man wearing Spanx, a middle school Bible teacher with a midlife crisis. The show is produced by a guy with good luck Chuck syndrome and a muck banger who loves Philly sports.
Wait, what's good luck Chuck syndrome? I mean, everyone that you date gets married after. Oh.
What's so this Gomas up to? Oh, yeah. Gomas.
By the way, that brought up. Did you get any blowback for your Taylor Swift comments, Max? Zero.
Okay. All right.
For saying that she was beautiful? One of the most beautiful pop stars? That's about as safe as you can say. One of the most?

You just want someone else to get Taylor Swift blowback. No, I don't care.
I don't want you to go through hell. I don't even do anything anymore.
Guests include the fat kid from Stand By Me who often recites poetry about one of the hosts. Meh.
Yeah, that was, come on. You're taking a shot at Jerry? a wonderful a wonderful way to get sports news

from a dog, a little person who loves airplanes and Jane Daniels, but is scared of heights and woman, an obese man who is delusional about the Bears, an even obese-er crybaby from Philadelphia, and the keeper of the light, Willy Wonka's grandpa. Who's the pug pug oh pug yeah yeah yeah yeah we haven't gotten on the willy wonka's grandpa thing recently hank that was that was hot in the streets like a couple years ago i feel like we should bring that back what grandpa joe what about him didn't people call you grandpa joe for a while and you got mad about it i don't know so.
So they call me feeble knees. Yeah, what is feeble knees?

I've been seeing that.

It's just they don't think I'm going to dunk.

They think I have feeble knees.

You got diamond knees.

I got, yeah.

Yeah.

You got this.

I feel good.

I'm going to have a shot.

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produces a show hosted by a nearsighted cocker spaniel and an anthropomorphic donut he's just trying to get hank to say words here executive producer henry happened to be there lockwood continues to keep ryan rusillo's thigh from being the whitest landmarks in the sports podcast that was a good roast it's more that's having human characteristics yeah so you're just a donut with your live action donut a claymation donut you got one more nope okay that was good i felt good yeah we gotta bring we gotta do roast more often feels feels refreshing to get roasted every now and then. All right.
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Memes and PFT

You guys have never gotten this

I've never gotten it

I need one of you to get it

So then we can start bullying the other person

I know

It's not fun when it's two

I've never gotten it

Thank you. Memes and PFT, you guys have never gotten this crap.
I've never gotten it. I need one of you to get it so then we can start bullying the other person.
I know.

It's not fun when it's two.

I've never gotten it.

It was fun when it was three.

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