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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Brian Baldinger on to talk some football. We're talking football the whole show.
We got NFL trade deadline, Monday night football.

Speaker 1 We have Hot Seat Cool Throne. We have Listener Rose are back.
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Speaker 1 And we also are going to talk some college football.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, November 6th. And I think we need to elect a president of this podcast.
I vote for Pug. I vote for Pug as well.
I was going to say maybe Hank.

Speaker 6 No, no, no. God, no.

Speaker 1 Why? But no, but we should make Hank the president because he doesn't want to be the president.

Speaker 1 Isn't that the rule you always say? Like we should find the person who least wants to be it?

Speaker 6 Yeah, my general rule of thumb is that anybody that wants to be president should never be president. The type of ego that you would need to be president.
Like, it's a bad idea to elect those psychos.

Speaker 1 15-yard penalty shooting you up.

Speaker 7 Jail.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 6 Hank says, lock him up.

Speaker 1 Me? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Did you throw in penalties at me?

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're a president.

Speaker 6 He said you'd be in prison.

Speaker 1 You're not running against me. You're running against Pug.

Speaker 6 It's still jail, though.

Speaker 7 But I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 1 You can jail. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I think we need a president of the podcast. You think it should be Pug? I vote Pug.
Get Pug Pug in here.

Speaker 6 In a landslide.

Speaker 1 Big, big day in the country. We have the NFL trade deadline in Maxion back.

Speaker 6 The first dog president has been elected.

Speaker 1 All right. Pug's going to come in here.
We're going to tell him that he's president. What do you think his reaction is going to be?

Speaker 6 I think he's going to be psyched, but he's going to be like, what do I do?

Speaker 1 He's not even here.

Speaker 1 We just elected a guy who's not even here.

Speaker 6 That's perfect. That's perfect.
The country runs itself at this point.

Speaker 1 Pug is MIA. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Did someone throw a tennis ball or something?

Speaker 1 It would be funny if he was just out on the court.

Speaker 6 He's just getting chasing a tennis ball.

Speaker 1 All right. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 you will not get any election coverage on this show.

Speaker 1 We will talk football, and we also will tell Pug that he's president whenever he comes back.

Speaker 6 So, Big T asked me a question about the election assessment.

Speaker 1 I still think we should title the episode. Yeah, this is the first thing.
You want to? I kind of did. Okay, I said it at the end of that.

Speaker 1 We already taped the end of the show, and I said we should do it.

Speaker 7 Should we do it? It's the most free downloads in the history of free downloads. Maybe not.
Maybe that's unethical.

Speaker 1 What if we add it in? What if it's like Brian Ballinger, NFL trade deadline, the fate of our country? And the fate of our country 2024.

Speaker 6 So Big T had an interesting question. It was like, what if, you know, the write-in line on every ballot?

Speaker 6 What if enough of the country got together and wrote in the same person, and then that person ended up getting elected and they didn't want to be president? Do they have to be president?

Speaker 6 That's how it works.

Speaker 1 Listen, I got duped.

Speaker 1 I have two things I want to say. One is, I think I'm officially, you know,

Speaker 1 we're going to turn 40 in a couple months, PFT, or like three months.

Speaker 1 It's been rattling me a little bit, but I'm okay. I'm good.

Speaker 6 I'm totally fine with it. I haven't gone out and gotten hair surgery or bought an old car or anything.

Speaker 1 Here's what I'm dealing with.

Speaker 1 I'm just having to embrace where I'm at in life. And unfortunately, I think I'm just the guy who gets duped online now.
Like a fully duped online.

Speaker 1 Because a guy, a Jaguars account said, remember in 2014 when Blake Portals finished sixth for the Florida governor? I retweeted that. I retweeted it as well.
I was like, yeah, of course he did.

Speaker 1 He's the fucking boat.

Speaker 1 So I'm fine with just being the guy who's happening. No, it did not happen.

Speaker 1 It said 20,000 votes. I should have been tipped off then.

Speaker 6 Here's the thing. It had it exactly tied with whoever finished in last.
Yeah. And it was, I think it was like 60,000 votes.
I retweeted it as well.

Speaker 6 But I think that if enough people retweet, excuse me, repost it on X.com, the everything app, it's all happening on X. If enough people repost it, then it just becomes the truth.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I think, yes, Blake Bortles, you can look that up now on Wikipedia. I'm pretty sure it says that he finished in sixth place.

Speaker 1 I'm just a dupe guy now, but

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, Blake Bortles would, Blake Bortles would be the perfect

Speaker 1 politician because he would just go off vibes. Yeah.
And he would just be like, whatever. Yeah, does it help people? Oh, okay.

Speaker 6 Yeah, sure. You know what? He's a man that can put in a plan for health in America that can get us healthy again.

Speaker 6 If he just does a first thing in the morning, everybody, you wake up and you take a piss for your country.

Speaker 1 Wait, should Blake Bortles be the president of Pardon MyTeak?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 There's no way he's going to pick up my phone call right now.

Speaker 7 There's one thing I'm going to miss from this whole election stuff. Okay.

Speaker 1 The commercials. Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God. The commercials are so ready for the commercials to be done.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to call Blake.
If he picks up, I think he's the official president of Pardon My Take. Do you guys agree with this?

Speaker 2 But what if he doesn't answer?

Speaker 1 Is that Blake Griffin? I think that makes him

Speaker 1 even more president.

Speaker 1 Like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. Oh, yeah.
And then, no, we could give Brooks a chance.

Speaker 1 Should we just send a Zoom to all three of them?

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't think he's going to pick up. There's no chance he's going to pick up.

Speaker 1 It's back to Pug. Oh.
Yellow. Hey.

Speaker 1 We're taping the show right now.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it's a big day in the country. So we decided that we were going to create a president of Pardon My Take, and we have elected you president of Pardon My Take.

Speaker 1 Man, I'm honored. Oh, hell yes.
So you take the job. Oh, no, I have the opportunity to decline.
You do.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No, I don't want that.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 I'm VP material. Okay, all right, you're VP.
You're VP.

Speaker 1 All right, because we were talking about how someone, a Jaguars fan account tweeted, they're like, remember in 2014 when Blake Portals actually finished sixth for the governor in Florida and I got duped because I love you so much.

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, of course he did. It said you got 20,000 votes.
It was completely photoshopped, but.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 you're VP. I've done that 15 times today.
Yeah. I'm in for VP for sure.
All right, done. All right, great.
All right, we'll talk to you later.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 See, that's a guy who should be a politician.

Speaker 6 That's perfect.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, I can decline. All right.
So Pug is president and Blake Portals is VP.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so the stat that I accidentally reposted, my finger slipped, it says that he got 20,066 votes for governor in the year 2014. I just believed it.

Speaker 1 I was like, I think that's just, I was blinded by my love for our vice president, Blake Portals. It could happen.
Yeah. Think about it.
We have Pug. Pug.

Speaker 1 We have decided, we started the show.

Speaker 1 You know, everyone's in the election mood, so we decided we need a president of Pardon My Take, and you have been voted as our president.

Speaker 1 I'm honored, Pug.

Speaker 1 Perfect. Yeah, that's and Blake Portals is your VP.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 I'm in. Pug.
Okay.

Speaker 6 What kind of policies are you bringing to Pardon My Take?

Speaker 1 Free popcorn machine.

Speaker 1 That stuff needs to be loaded up. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Max on the couch.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Now we're getting to some fucking fiery policy. Max and Hank share the couch.

Speaker 1 I like that, Pug.

Speaker 1 That's fine with me.

Speaker 1 Would you put yourself in Max's spot?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And then Shane will be

Speaker 1 in here. I don't hate that.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 beams. What do we got going on?

Speaker 1 Not Pug, Pug. Okay, all right.
Pug, you are now president. Blake Portals is VP.

Speaker 1 Thank you for accepting this very important role.

Speaker 6 I appreciate it. It's for all the AWLs, all the Pugs.

Speaker 1 Pug. Okay.
Love that. All right.
Should we talk some football? We got the business out of the way. Let's talk football.

Speaker 1 We should talk Monday Night Football real quick, and then we'll get to the NFL trade deadline.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are perfect on the season. They are going to play every game the exact same way where you think the Chiefs might lose.

Speaker 1 And then they're going to be perfect on third down, and they're going to get a big defensive stop, and Patrick Mahomes is going to make a big play.

Speaker 6 Oh, and yeah, Travis Kelsey's still alive. Yeah, still alive.
Very much alive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think the, oh, yeah, there we go. The mic out.
Patrick Mahomes,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's just what they do. And DeAndre Hopkins, obviously, that was his coming-out party.
And I was impressed. Like, Baker is the man.

Speaker 1 I can't stop rooting for Baker and the Bucs because he's just, he's a gamer. He's just going to be in every game, going to will them to trying to win these these games.

Speaker 1 Todd Bowles is the biggest fucking coward in the world. He pulled a Billy Napier.

Speaker 1 What a loser.

Speaker 6 It's a loser move. So you're going up against the Chiefs.
You're decimated by injuries. Baker just went out there and bled all over himself for three hours.

Speaker 6 You somehow got yourself in a position where you can win the game, score a touchdown, and then you have the opportunity to go for two on the road, Monday Night Football against an undefeated team.

Speaker 6 Or you can kick an extra point like a coward, go to overtime, and think that you can win an overtime against literally Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And you decide to kick the extra point. Now, I saw somebody that posted like what the official stats were.
And this is where Big Cat, you and I need to separate ourselves from the stats.

Speaker 6 From the nerds? Some people are saying that we've become nerds because of the whole 14 points go for two thing. That's just mad.
That's just the one thing that we know about and understand.

Speaker 1 That is simply the only analytics that I'll ever understand. So I'm going to talk about it constantly to make people think I'm smart.

Speaker 6 That and beer before liquor.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's analytics too.

Speaker 1 And don't swim if you've had tuna fish sandwich.

Speaker 6 Yeah, good point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't swim 30 minutes after eating?

Speaker 6 Yeah, 30 minutes after eating, and pulling out is good birth control. Yep.
Okay, so here's what the official numbers are: the winning percentage if you go for the point after touchdown, 42.8%.

Speaker 6 The winning percentage if you go for two

Speaker 1 after

Speaker 6 uh if you go for two after that touchdown, 41.2. So 41.2 for going for two versus 42.8 for going for the win.
So they're saying it's safer by 1%

Speaker 1 to kick the extra point.

Speaker 6 Got it. Here's why they're wrong.
Here's why the nerds are wrong. It's fucking Patrick Mahomes on the other side.

Speaker 1 It's the vibe check.

Speaker 6 You're fucking Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 This is where,

Speaker 1 like, whenever we have these arguments about analytics, I think we're actually two of the more honest and grounded people when it comes to analytics are important.

Speaker 1 You should use the math and your advantage, but vibes are very much important and like time and place matters.

Speaker 6 Yeah, too many people use the word analytics as just a word for a number that they don't like. Right.

Speaker 1 And I am all for you. You are without Mike Evans, without Chris Godwin, you've taken the Chiefs to the limit here.
You have one play to win the game. Just go fucking run that play.
And I don't care.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 if you don't get it, that's the other thing: is like,

Speaker 1 I would just rule every decision that you're making as a coach is, if it fails, will I be blamed? I wouldn't have blamed Todd Bowles there. I was thinking, go for two the whole time.

Speaker 1 Just try to win the game. If you don't get the two, hey, at least you went out on the field.

Speaker 6 Instead of the would I be blamed, what I like to do is I like to imagine what a fan of the other team doesn't want me to do. Correct.
And then I do that thing. Correct.

Speaker 6 So if you were to ask any Chiefs fan, what don't you want the Bucs to do? They would say, I don't don't want them to go for two on this play because I would love to take my chances.

Speaker 6 First of all, you get a coin flip to start out. So that's 50-50.
And then you have Patrick Mahomes on the other side.

Speaker 6 So even if you go down, kick an extra point, or excuse me, kick a field goal, you still have to stop Patrick Mahomes from scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 6 Now, in this case, you want to imagine what the other team does not want you to do. And it's a no-brainer for that.

Speaker 6 Like you have the opportunity to beat the Chiefs on Monday Night Football without giving their offense an opportunity to touch the ball.

Speaker 6 Now, there was some time left, too, and that's because Todd Bowles made a terrible decision.

Speaker 6 He called a timeout. You'd like some of that time to tick off because then, yeah, you would end up going up by one, then kicking the ball to Mahomes, and then he gets four downs.
And

Speaker 6 you don't factor in punting if you're the Chiefs on that offense. Of course.
But still,

Speaker 6 you go for two in that situation. You try to win the game right there.

Speaker 1 Win yards. Win the game.
Liam Cohn's a great offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 The fact that he has the Bucs still looking like a very competent offense with all their injuries, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Kate Otten just gets schemed open on every play. It's crazy.
So the defense, the Chiefs' defense

Speaker 1 is gassed. You have a great offensive coordinator.
You have a gamer in Baker Mayfield who can run it in or throw it in. So you can do an option on that play.

Speaker 1 Go for two. And Todd Bowles.

Speaker 1 It's when a coach gets to a point where they're losing and they're losing in a stupid way that I just get so sick of their face. I'm so sick of Todd Bowles' face.

Speaker 1 His little, like, where he squints his eyes when he's looking at the field he looks like uh your like grandparent or parent who's reading a menu that refuses to get glasses you're like do you need help like can we read it for you he just keeps look squinting at the field like if i squint hard enough it will look different todd bowles wants them to turn up the font on the down sign yeah is that a three or is that a four it's just i there's something about his like i i just i've turned on todd bowls i mean i was never a big todd bowls guy but this bucks team fights so hard and Todd Bowles, you're a coward.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're a coward. It was a cowardly move.
And the Bucs very easily could have won that game. They played well.
The Bucs were in there the whole time. They were playing hard on defense.

Speaker 6 And I love Bucky. Bucky's the best.
How can you not root for a guy named Bucky? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bucky Irving, Rashad White scored.

Speaker 1 I have a question about Patrick Mahomes. Is he the heir apparent to the Big Ben fake injury? Because Patrick Mahomes gets

Speaker 1 horrifically injured at least three times a year, and then he's totally fine.

Speaker 6 Okay, so be honest, in the moment after it happened, when he's getting carried off the field, they show the replay a couple times. What did you think?

Speaker 1 I thought Achilles or knee, it was non-contact.

Speaker 1 I was watching the game in bed actually, and I was like, ooh, non-contact. That's actually way worse.
And my wife was like, why? And I just felt like the dumbest person ever.

Speaker 1 I was like, well, if you get hit, like, you know, you break a bone, but like non-contact, you don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 Total non-answer for me.

Speaker 1 But obviously, we've always learned that non-contact is way worse because if it's not contact then it's probably a ligament or a tendon probably if it's a bone you might you might get lucky and it's just a high ankle sprain i did not have a good answer for that in the moment i was i just completely crumbled under pressure but yeah i thought it was achilles or knee or like they said maybe even his hip i thought it was patrick mahomes is done i i was like carson went to

Speaker 1 i was to the point where I was like, Carson Wentz is probably gonna win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 So I got mad. I got so mad when they showed Carson Wentz warming up with a single game.

Speaker 1 He was gun in red.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was like, this motherfucker is about to get on the field, force me to watch him play, which brings up big-time PTSD. Yeah.
And

Speaker 6 be successful.

Speaker 6 And I was prepared for that. Carson looked very nervous.
And

Speaker 6 he's probably thankful that he didn't have to go in because he is in the co-pilot seat to potentially win a Super Bowl this year, which is kind of his thing that he likes to do.

Speaker 6 The relief that I thought I saw in Carson Wentz's face, it's like if you're in an exit row on an airplane and it crashes and you're like, oh, I got to get up and get everybody off this plane.

Speaker 6 And then you wake up from that dream and you're like, oh, it's not real. That's what Carson Wentz felt when Mahomes was like, I'm just going to run this out on the sidelines.

Speaker 6 So he was fine after getting carried off the field. Like he wasn't putting any weight on his foot whatsoever.

Speaker 1 In that shot where they were celebrating and he was sitting down and he looked up and he was just like, not good.

Speaker 1 I was convinced he was done for the year. And he does do this.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 i think he's got you know they always show his stretching and how he does these weird stretches in the offseason and he does have that little bit of dad bod i think he's just indestructible yeah he's gumby yeah i i did we ever find out what could have potentially been the injury yeah they said that he had he was working on an ankle sprain god that he was i don't know if he was listed or if they were giving him a treatment before the game for that but he had an ankle sprain you know how sometimes if your ankle's fucked up and then you just step yeah we're old but like you'll just take a step and step on it All the time.

Speaker 6 He did that like times 100, where he stepped on it and re-aggravated it, and then he was like, okay, nothing's actually wrong with it. I can play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Andy Reid should have actually given Carson Wentz a game ball and been like, hey,

Speaker 1 in those 90 seconds, you didn't piss and shit yourself. You're ready to go, Carson.
Good job. He might have.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 You didn't run away from us. Good job, Carson.

Speaker 6 I closed my eyes and leaned back and saw the picture of Carson Wentz with the like 107 ducks that he shot.

Speaker 1 I just assumed it was going to be like the NFL is scripted. Carson Wentz obviously was playing in MVP level the year that he gets hurt.
Nick Foles wins the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes gets hurt.

Speaker 1 Carson Wentz wins the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 That's what's going to happen. If Wentz went in, he would have cooked.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He would have won a Super Bowl.
Yep. And we would have just been like, Carson Wentz won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 And then all the Taylor Swift fans in the world would have like fallen in love with Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it would have been, all right, who would it have been?

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think. Not the same.
Maybe the Saints. I'm trying to think who would have then signed.
Maybe the Giants would have signed Carson Wentz, and he would have absolutely sucked.

Speaker 1 He would have won a Super Bowl. The Giants would have been like Carson Wentz our starting quarterback going forward, and then he would have gone back into a pumpkin.

Speaker 6 I think maybe the Raiders.

Speaker 1 The Raiders, yeah, the Giants and the Raiders. One of those, maybe the Titans.
Like, one of those teams would have signed him, and he would have sucked.

Speaker 6 Colts, really.

Speaker 1 Jets. The Jets sucked Carson Wentz.
The Jets would have signed Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 We were robbed of the Carson Wentz story arc.

Speaker 2 I'm not ruling it out.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not either.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so that was...

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are just. They're so fucking good.

Speaker 1 And they do it in such an efficient.

Speaker 1 Like, they never look flashy anymore. I think that we'll talk to Baldy about it because he pointed out that DeAndre Hopkins changes that.
But they just, you can't make a mistake against them.

Speaker 1 And it just doesn't matter if there's a third down in eight, Patrick Mahomes is going to get it.

Speaker 6 Their defense is also incredible.

Speaker 1 Really good. Really, really good.
Really, really good. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Okay. Yeah, it's kind of weird because I feel like the Chiefs,

Speaker 6 they're not the best team in the NFL, but they will be the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 They're the team no one would want to play in a playoff game because I would think they would win every single playoff game. Yeah.
Which they have.

Speaker 1 They have not lost a game since the Raiders' Christmas Day game or the day after Christmas last year. They've not lost a game.

Speaker 1 They won their, what, last two games of the regular season, then won all their playoff games, and now they're 8-0.

Speaker 6 So they're 8-0.

Speaker 6 Who's going to be the first analyst to get on TV and say, is this the worst 8-0 team that we've ever had in the NFL?

Speaker 1 It's not, though. I know.
And way worse. I know.

Speaker 6 They're winning games because they're good at football.

Speaker 1 I think if they went undefeated, people would be like, this is the most uninspiring undefeated.

Speaker 6 They're not winning games because they're doing gimmicks. They're not winning games in blowouts against bad teams.
They're just winning games because they do everything very, very good.

Speaker 1 They just win games. So they have the Broncos next, and they have at the Bills.
If the Bills don't beat them,

Speaker 1 I don't know if they have a loss until the Texans in in at the Steelers at the end of the season.

Speaker 6 That's what Sean McDermott should do. Sean McDermott should hire Paul Rudd to sit next to him on the sidelines and be like, Paul, should I go for two here? What do you want as a fan of the Chiefs?

Speaker 6 Yeah. And then make his decision thusly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just go off of that.

Speaker 1 All right, should we talk some NFL trade deadline? PFT.

Speaker 1 Are the commanders all in? I'm thinking Soupy.

Speaker 6 Yeah? I'm thinking Soupy. And we talked.

Speaker 1 Marshawn Lattimore obviously got traded to the Commanders. Huge, huge.
I mean, that's a great trade.

Speaker 6 It's a good trade. We gave up a third-round pick, and I think we swapped a fourth for a fifth.
So essentially, what Adam Peters did was he turned

Speaker 6 John Dotson into

Speaker 6 Marshawn Lattimore, which is a pretty good magic trick.

Speaker 1 Not exactly. Well, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 We got a fifth back as well.

Speaker 6 Well, he actually did better than that because the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick. But you gave up an extra pick.

Speaker 6 But the third that we gave up is going to be a much worse draft pick than what we ended up getting from that trade because you had Miami's third-rounder.

Speaker 2 But you just said you swapped a fourth and a fifth. We swapped a third and a fifth.

Speaker 6 Okay, so we swapped a third and a fifth.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 2 So you gave up more picks.

Speaker 6 So, wait, me and you swapped a third and a fifth.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 2 And you added a fourth.

Speaker 6 And we added a fourth.

Speaker 2 To the Lattimore.

Speaker 6 So, but I didn't get a fifth back from you. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 We got a fifth. Wait, wait.

Speaker 1 We got a fifth back.

Speaker 1 So PFT gave Max Jahan Dotson.

Speaker 1 Max gave PFT what?

Speaker 6 Third-round pick.

Speaker 2 We got Jahan Dotson and a fifth.

Speaker 1 And you gave up a third?

Speaker 2 I gave up a third and I think and a seventh.

Speaker 1 Okay, forget the seventh. Correct.
What you then...

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you traded Jahan Dotson and got a third-round pick.

Speaker 2 You traded Jahan Dotson and a fourth for Marshawn Lattimore.

Speaker 1 That's what it is.

Speaker 6 I got Miami's pick from Max. Miami's third-round pick.

Speaker 1 I'm confused. So then what did you trade for Marshawn Lattimore?

Speaker 6 We just traded our third-round pick

Speaker 6 for Marshawn Lattimore. And a fourth.
And we swapped. And a fourth.

Speaker 1 A fourth and a fifth.

Speaker 6 We swapped a fourth and a fifth.

Speaker 2 But we also got one of your fifths. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth because it was the same trade plus a fourth.
Okay. So it's Jahan Dotson and a fourth.

Speaker 1 And a fourth.

Speaker 6 I still like it. So the reason why.

Speaker 1 And you're not mad at it. Matt.
No, I just wanted to clarify because he was saying things that were incorrect. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 6 So what I love about the trade is

Speaker 6 I still have no idea how to evaluate cornerbacks. I don't sit out there grinding film or anything, but I do trust one person more than most, and that's Ben Mence.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And Ben Mence gave me a breakdown, a full breakdown of Marshawn Lattimore.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 6 he said, lockdown, number one, physical, good length, will tackle. Competitive.
Got a couple more years in his prime. Still pretty fast.
Hated Dennis Allen. Oh.
That's the big one for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dennis Allen got fired, which we happened after we recorded on Sunday night.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we got the Rizzler now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got the Rizzler. Rizzy.

Speaker 1 That was due to happen. But yeah, the Commanders look like they're all in.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the other teams that were interested in him were the Chiefs, I think the 49ers. So other competent organizations

Speaker 6 are going for him. So I'm happy our defense is like middle-of-the-road-ish.
And with Lattimore,

Speaker 6 it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world if the Commanders won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 I'm not thinking Supi, but

Speaker 6 it wouldn't be crazy.

Speaker 7 I was looking at the schedule

Speaker 7 and the standings.

Speaker 7 I think you guys could be the one seed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Lions have to play the NFC North.

Speaker 6 The Lions are a much better team than we are.

Speaker 7 But they have to play the NFC North.

Speaker 1 That's why these next two games for the Commanders are, that's why I asked the question. I was not trying to trap you, but if they go 2-0 in these next two games, their schedule is not that difficult.

Speaker 7 The one seed's right there.

Speaker 1 The Steelers and the Cowboys, or sorry, the Steelers and the Eagles in the next two weeks are very big games.

Speaker 1 If you go 2-0, that changes everything.

Speaker 6 Now I think that's down to 1-1.

Speaker 1 1-1 would be great, too, though. I'm saying, like,

Speaker 1 that's, yeah, it's right there. Is the game in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 6 The game is at home. But, I mean, it's Pittsburgh, so they just get on a bus.
Yeah. And George Soros pays for their ticket down to D.C.
and then they go do their thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So what other trades? We had

Speaker 1 the Lions get better. So Zadarius Smith gets traded from the Browns.
He's now on his third NFC North team.

Speaker 1 I saw the Packers traded Preston Smith to the Steelers. Steelers also got Mike Williams from the Jets.

Speaker 6 Memes, what are they getting for Mike Williams? What kind of player is Mike Williams right now? What is this?

Speaker 1 What do you got, memes?

Speaker 1 He didn't do much with the Jets, but Russell Wilson loves the deep ball, and Mike Williams is a deep ball threat.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 1 he didn't do much with the Jets. Okay.

Speaker 1 So you don't care about giving him up? No, not really. But Alan Zard is on IR, so Mike Williams did fill a hole there.
But young guy's got to step up. Young guy's got to step up.
Next man up.

Speaker 1 What other trades did we have that were consequential?

Speaker 1 Trevius White? Yeah, Tredavius White got traded

Speaker 1 from the Rams to the

Speaker 6 Dealers? Who got Tredavius White?

Speaker 1 All right, here we got the whole list.

Speaker 1 Tredavius White. I'm looking for his name.
He's on the Ravens. Ravens.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, a couple teams, and then obviously Deontay Johnson got traded last week, which was big.

Speaker 6 And then Schefter posted yesterday that DK Metcalf will not be traded, contrary to speculation. Oh.
That is how I learned about DK Metcalf potentially being traded.

Speaker 6 Was Adam Schefter saying that he won't be traded?

Speaker 1 Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, also, Khalil Herbert got traded from the Bears and then tweeted, thank you, God.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would like to make a statement now that I've had a little time to have the dust settle and watch DJ Moore seemingly quit on the bears season and met Iberflues be a moron.

Speaker 1 I think I need to just let go and just give up. And

Speaker 1 I see what you have, PFT, in new owners, and I think I just,

Speaker 1 I can't let myself get my hopes up until there's new owners, which will never happen. So that

Speaker 1 just never,

Speaker 1 it's just never going to change.

Speaker 6 It makes a big difference.

Speaker 1 They're never going to hire someone. They're never going to hire an alpha male.

Speaker 1 They never want a guy who's bigger than the organization since Dick. So it's,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm just down bad. And Kale Williams is going to get ruined.
Drake Mays is going to be better. Jaden Daniels is already better.
Who else? Bo Nicks is better.

Speaker 1 Michael Pennix is going to be better. They're all going to be better.
And I'm just going to be

Speaker 1 back in the whole cycle.

Speaker 6 Because he goes to Sunday. Patriots? Yeah.
You have the opportunity to bury Hank Streams on.

Speaker 1 But at this point, I saw a report that if there was a report, which the Bears have never done, they've never fired a coach in the middle of the season, over 100 years' history.

Speaker 1 There was a rumor that if they lost to the Patriots, then Matty Brafus would get fired. So now what am I rooting for?

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a trick question. I think you've got to be rooting for Hank.

Speaker 1 If you could guarantee that he would get fired, I would never root against the Bears, but I would at least have

Speaker 1 something on the other end if they do lose that game.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but say Caleb goes out, throws three touchdowns, no picks, 290 yards, and the defense just breaks down against Drake May.

Speaker 6 You'd be okay with that.

Speaker 1 It's all right. I listened to

Speaker 1 Matt Ewer May also.

Speaker 1 He's a loser.

Speaker 6 I listened to Dweeber Fluce's press conference live, and it's bad.

Speaker 6 He is not a good coach.

Speaker 6 Nothing about the man inspires confidence. It was crazy because I was getting mad for the city of Chicago.
I was like, this shouldn't be on the public airwaves here.

Speaker 6 This is obscenity, listening to him talk and just say the most innocuous coach cliches that he could think of to answer any given question. He was like, yeah, you know, I think

Speaker 6 we got to do a better job running the football and we got to stop the run.

Speaker 6 You know, this time of year, stopping the run is important and it starts with me. He said, it starts with me again.

Speaker 1 It starts with me. What are you going to say, Hank? From the troll couch.

Speaker 7 Not the troll couch.

Speaker 6 I don't want the Patriots to win this weekend.

Speaker 1 I don't think,

Speaker 1 I'm going to be rooting for the Batrians because I don't think they would fire Matt Eberfus win or lose. That was a rumor, but

Speaker 1 they're such cheap owners and they won't do it.

Speaker 7 I know he's a friend of the program, but I feel like when you're doing as bad as he is, getting funked up looks so much worse.

Speaker 1 Matt Eberflues? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like he got the poofy haircut.

Speaker 1 He's not a friend of the program, by the way. He came on once.

Speaker 1 Let's not get crazy. No, I was just going to say he looks ridiculous.

Speaker 3 He looks ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Take that out of your mouth. And that

Speaker 7 was.

Speaker 7 No, I'm talking about Funk.

Speaker 1 Oh, Funk is a friend of the program. Funk is still a friend of the program.
Yes.

Speaker 2 For the listeners, who's Funk again?

Speaker 1 Funk is the barber who cuts most of the hair for the Chicago Bears. But he

Speaker 1 is a friend. He's been in this season.

Speaker 7 He got the poopy hair before the season, and it looks ridiculous now on the nightside.

Speaker 1 I've said it enough to get away from the business. Stop worrying about your hair.

Speaker 1 They did it with Miss.

Speaker 7 Stories about the end of the day.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, you say that to a quarterback that cares more about how they dress. That guy, Matt Eberflues, he should spend more time sitting in his playbook and less time in the barbecue.

Speaker 1 Well, probably not because he's dangerous in his own playbook.

Speaker 1 They did it with Mitch Trubisky. Obviously, Mitch Trubisky gets drafted.
John Fox is the coach. They fire John Fox after one year.
Then Matt Nagy comes in. Then they draft Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 Fire Matt Nagy after a year. Matt Eberflus comes in.
They drafted Caleb Williams. kept Matt Eberflus.
They're going to fire Matt Eberflus after a year.

Speaker 1 I've done this speech a million times, but it's the same old, same old bullshit.

Speaker 1 And basically, they're like, hey, all we got to do is get our head coach funked up, and everyone will think that everything's changed. And nothing is changed.
It's facelift. It's bad.

Speaker 1 So I'm in a dark, dark place.

Speaker 1 But I'm happy for you guys. You guys have some good organizations you get to root for and fun things coming up.
And it's just...

Speaker 6 It's strange. It's honestly, it's strange for me to be looking at transactions that we make and be like, I think that they have a plan.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 6 The crazy crazy thing is, like, Jaden Daniels is, he's so good at football, at playing quarterback, that he actually made our secondary better.

Speaker 1 But it's not, Jaden Daniels is very, very good at playing football. If you had Dan Snyder and Jaden Daniels, it wouldn't work out.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jayden Daniels is the point where I came to that realization in the last 24 hours where I was like, why am I thinking that it's going to be different?

Speaker 1 It's the same people running the same dumpster fire over and over. We're going to do the same thing year in and year out.
Didn't those people win the Super Bowl though? In 1985.

Speaker 1 It's been a while.

Speaker 6 If Dan Snyder was the owner of the campaign.

Speaker 1 And they should have won more and they didn't.

Speaker 6 Then when Jaden Daniels got his rib broken, it would have punctured his heart and he would have died on the field.

Speaker 6 That's the vibe that...

Speaker 6 having bad ownership will give you.

Speaker 7 It's a sick sweatshirt, PFT.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 6 You can find it in the Barcelona store starting on Thursday.

Speaker 1 It's almost a comforting feeling, though, because I'm just not going to... I've reached the point where I'm not going to fight it.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to fight it until the offseason. I'll fight it again.
I'll be like, oh, yeah, new coach. This fucking guy.
We're going to hire, we're not going to hire Ben Johnson.

Speaker 1 We're not going to hire Liam Cohen.

Speaker 1 We're going to probably hire like the offensive coordinator or no, maybe the defensive coordinator of like the Panthers or something and be like, well, he's next up.

Speaker 1 And I'll get myself really excited and I'll do the whole thing and I'll get pumped and then they'll finish like 9-8 or 10 and 7, maybe, maybe. And then I'll be like, oh, next year's the year.

Speaker 1 And then they'll draft Archman. And then they'll draft another guy.
And then they'll fire the guy we just. So

Speaker 1 all hope optimism is gone until july that's it yeah so no you can still

Speaker 1 quit dj moore he quit he doesn't like caleb it's bad bad news he's a fields guy he's always khalil herbert left and said thank thank you god he tweeted thank you god yeah what what do you do about dj moore going forward i would trade him how can him and caleb play in the future don't know max it makes no sense to me i like maybe something will change and i don't, I like DJ more, seems like a great guy, he is a very good receiver.

Speaker 1 Something has been off this year, and you can't pretend that that's not the case. You can't just be like, I could look over it after the Texans stuff,

Speaker 1 weird shit, you know, like body language, but this one, I'm just like, it's, it's, it's, I don't know. It's, you can't, you can't look past it.

Speaker 2 There's too many isolated incidents to be like

Speaker 1 where something is up.

Speaker 2 Each one you can look over individually, but all of them together means that there's got to to be something up.

Speaker 1 There's got to be something up, and I'm not blind to it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He misses old buddy. I think it's as simple as that.
Like, he was never going to love Caleb. No.

Speaker 1 He just saw Caleb as a musician. And he got his money, which I'm happy he got his money.
Again, it's not like a personal thing. I like DJ Moore, the person.
I like DJ Moore as a receiver in theory.

Speaker 1 DJ Moore on this team this year has been something. Maybe he just woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Speaker 6 Do you think Khalil Herbert is the first person to thank God for moving to Cincinnati? Yeah, probably. I think maybe in history, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's probably it. And then we also glossed over the biggest move of the trade deadline.
Jerry Jones. Yeah.
Made a move. The Cowboys are

Speaker 1 still all in. Oh.

Speaker 6 Did not sign Cam Oliver. He got it.
He got, was it Jonathan Mingo? Yeah. From the Panthers.
Yeah. So fourth-round receiver from the Panthers.
Jerry said that they liked him a lot in the draft.

Speaker 6 So basically, Jerry Jones has been stewing on not getting Mingo for the last, what, two years? Yep. And so he finally righted that wrong.
And now

Speaker 6 I guess Trey Lance has another target.

Speaker 1 That's huge.

Speaker 6 Massive.

Speaker 1 Trey Lance. Is it going to be Trey Lance?

Speaker 6 No, I think it's going to be Cooper Rush, but also Jerry said on his radio hit that he goes on every week and gives up way too much information about his personnel decisions.

Speaker 6 He said that it's going to be Cooper Rush, but also Trey Lance brings a lot of stuff to the table that you can't get from Cooper. Oh.

Speaker 6 So I wouldn't be surprised if you saw Trey Lance make his way in on some plays.

Speaker 1 A couple Trey Lance packages?

Speaker 6 Some Trey Lance packages.

Speaker 1 You need to just, you need to punish them, Max. You need to beat them by a billion.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, Cooper,

Speaker 2 this has to be a spanking.

Speaker 1 It has to be. You have to rush over to put them over your

Speaker 1 knee and you got to spank them. Yeah, I know.
For 60 minutes.

Speaker 7 At Jerry World, it will still always scare me a little bit.

Speaker 1 Just spank them, Max.

Speaker 1 Spank the fuck out of them.

Speaker 6 They're a team that's

Speaker 6 begging for you to put them out of the team.

Speaker 1 They're like, Daddy, please spank me.

Speaker 6 Choke me out. They're saying choke me out.

Speaker 2 I'm hoping that we spank. I'm hoping that we spank.
You got to spank. I'm confident that we spank.

Speaker 1 You got to spank.

Speaker 2 A.J. Brown, good news from the MRI.

Speaker 1 What's the good news?

Speaker 2 No structural damage. Looks like just a bruise.

Speaker 1 That's good. Just a bruise.

Speaker 6 Just a bruise. I look forward to him.

Speaker 2 I'm not intuition, as some may say.

Speaker 6 I'm bummed out that we already played the Bucs because Marshawn Lattimore against Mike Evans is always fun. That would have been fun.

Speaker 6 Rip each other's throats out every game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, anything else from the NFL world that we missed?

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 6 This is a great quote from Jamar Chase today. They asked him about getting ready for Thursday night because it's it's going to be Bengals and Ravens on Thursday.

Speaker 6 And this is from our good friend Ben Baby in Cincinnati. Love Ben Baby.

Speaker 1 We got to get Ben Baby on.

Speaker 6 He said, they asked him if it was like cramming for a test in school, getting ready to play on a Thursday night. And Jamar responded, I didn't study in school.
Love that. Love that.
Love that.

Speaker 1 Cardell Jones. LSU, baby.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I didn't come here to play school.

Speaker 1 I didn't come here to play school.

Speaker 1 Speaking of Cardell Jones, all right, let me do an ad real quick, and then we'll talk some college football.

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Speaker 9 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 I don't want credit, but I feel like we glossed over the fact that I did say Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nicks, Michael Pennix are all going to be better than Caleb Williams. That was big of me.

Speaker 6 Well, I can tell that you're in your feelings right now.

Speaker 1 I'm bad. I'm down as bad as dad could be.

Speaker 6 I don't think that's true. I still think that Caleb's going to be a good quarterback, but

Speaker 1 I'm not

Speaker 1 going to be able to do that. Probably not.

Speaker 1 And it's not against Caleb Williams. I still believe in Caleb Williams, the quarterback.
I do not believe in the Bears, the organization.

Speaker 6 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 6 Max?

Speaker 6 I mean, this is the biggest. The NBA has suspended Philadelphia 76ers Joelle and Biede for three games for altercation, shoving a columnist in a post-game locker room.

Speaker 2 He's not playing the next three games.

Speaker 1 Wait, why isn't he playing?

Speaker 2 Because he's recovering from a meniscus injury.

Speaker 6 Wait, so the NBA's investigation into Joelle and Bede not playing in the first several games has been usurped by the NBA suspending Joelle and Bede from playing for three games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the domino meme. Make that memes.

Speaker 1 The first domino is Marcus Hayes writes a column about an investigation into Joelle and Biede not playing. And then the big domino is Joelle and Biede can't play for three games.

Speaker 1 Per the NBA. I'm sure they're not going to follow that.

Speaker 1 They literally were like, hey, here's an investigation that they're not being correct about these injury reports. And Marcus Hayes writes his article.
Got it.

Speaker 1 And then the article ends up with Joel Embiid pushing him, which we stand by him, Joel Embiid, that is. And now Joel Embiid can't play three games.

Speaker 1 But he also wasn't going to play him because he's hurt.

Speaker 6 It's like getting suspended from school for skipping school.

Speaker 1 Cool.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, sure. I feel like they were like, yeah, he'll probably be back after the next three games.
So let's just suspend him for the next three games.

Speaker 1 Are you sure about that? You sure he's going to be back after the next three games? He'll be back. Did Paul George play well? Nope.
Oh, no. Damn.
It's okay.

Speaker 6 You got the clip.

Speaker 1 Wait, are you one in five?

Speaker 1 Are you one in five? Have you never started going on the Nanka this much?

Speaker 2 We've never talked about the NBA this much this early in the season.

Speaker 6 I did see a very, I think it was from Kevin O'Connor.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you guys are one in five.

Speaker 3 We haven't talked about the Bucks for a second.

Speaker 7 We talk about tankathon a lot, but I've been on there a lot because of the Patriots, and sometimes I click the NBA section, and the Sixers are three right now.

Speaker 1 They're right now.

Speaker 6 Trust the process. Cooper Flag watch.
Trusting the process.

Speaker 1 If we got Cooper Flag, that'd be crazy. But Kevin O'Connor put up a

Speaker 6 very interesting post the other day about how bad the Clippers are and how things could go from bad to worse for them. And if the Clippers somehow lucked into the

Speaker 6 top pick in the lottery, you know who gets that pick? The Oklahoma City Thunder. Ooh.
So if the Clippers are bad enough, the Thunder could also get Cooper Flag. Wow.

Speaker 7 The Pelicans have the Bucs pick, and the Bucs are in dead last right now.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the Bucks are bad. That would be devastating.

Speaker 1 Who could have seen the Dame Lillard trade not working out?

Speaker 1 Oh, wait. I did.

Speaker 1 Bucks fans got very mad about that. That's weird.
And now there's rumors like the Giannis to New York.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. But if they don't have their own pick, why would the Bucs trade Giannis?

Speaker 1 No, they should never trade Giannis under any circumstance. Giannis gives you a chance.
You just got to figure out another way. And the Cavs, shout out to Cavs since we're doing an NBA talk.

Speaker 1 They're 8-0. And they keep winning in crazy ways.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 College football. College football.
We have our first rankings out.

Speaker 1 We're recording this the afternoon. The rankings don't really matter this early with the new college football playoff setup because you're going to get the automatic teams in.

Speaker 1 So, you know, the four highest-ranked conference winners. And then there's so much shit that's got to shake out.

Speaker 1 Like this week, we actually have true elimination games in LSU versus Alabama, a mini elimination game in Georgia versus Ole Miss, because if Ole Miss loses, they'll be out.

Speaker 1 But the big story, so you want to do rankings first?

Speaker 1 What your guess is?

Speaker 6 I'm going to guess that Indiana fans will be pissed off.

Speaker 1 Indiana fans have every right to be pissed off because Indiana should be ranked ahead of Ohio State and ahead of Texas. Indiana's undefeated, and you could say, well, they haven't beaten anyone.
True,

Speaker 1 but if you go common opponents for Ohio State and Indiana, Indiana beat Nebraska by a million, beat Michigan State by a million. Ohio State did kill Michigan State, but Ohio State struggled Nebraska.

Speaker 6 So at this point, if we're just doing blind resumes, and if you were to just flip-flop, just imagine Indiana football with the Ohio State Buckeye logo next to it.

Speaker 6 And if you look at who they've played, if Ohio State had played that exact same schedule and they had the exact same results, Ohio State would probably be ranked, what, number two in the nation?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, so maybe not, just because Ohio State, I'm not,

Speaker 1 I think you should just, like, as a personal belief, the undefeated team should be ranked ahead of the team with a loss, no matter what the schedule is.

Speaker 1 Like at this point in the season, knowing it doesn't matter because they're going to play each other. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ohio State's argument, which I understand, they have the best win out of Ohio State, Indiana, and Texas because those three are going to be lumped up somewhere.

Speaker 1 They have the best win out of those three. The best loss.
They have the best loss as well.

Speaker 1 So they lost by a point to Oregon at Oregon, and then they beat Penn State at Penn State. So Ohio State does have the case to be.
I just want to see Indiana higher than Ohio State and Texas

Speaker 1 because they've been demolishing teams.

Speaker 6 Yeah, what you're saying is at this point,

Speaker 6 a great loss is better than a good win.

Speaker 1 Well, and they also, the committee, they go like data points, and Ohio State's win at at Penn State is better than anything Indiana's done. Yeah.
So that's how they'll do it. I just,

Speaker 1 especially the first poll that is utterly meaningless because we're going to have so many games to figure this shit out. Just reward the teams that are, that are undefeated.

Speaker 6 There is a lot happening today in sports, isn't there? Yeah. Like, I feel like a day like today, Election Day, the college football.

Speaker 1 Well, Election Day is over. Pug.

Speaker 6 Pug, yeah. But Election Day, college football playoff.

Speaker 6 and NFL trade deck and

Speaker 6 MACHIN.

Speaker 6 You just have to believe that Major League Baseball is is going to announce some award at like

Speaker 6 9.30 p.m. tonight.
Cy Young's coming through. Right.
They're going to try to put that out and get absolutely buried. Yeah.
I do think that Indiana should be ranked higher.

Speaker 6 That said, I think that when they match up, I would not be shocked if Ohio State beat them by a couple scores.

Speaker 1 Yes. I think it's going to go.
So

Speaker 1 I think they have to just guess with.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they're. Are they just doing the rankings and not the bracket? Because the bracket obviously has to get figured out by the conference winners.

Speaker 1 Either way, it's going to be Oregon, Georgia, Miami, and BYU as of right now are going to be

Speaker 1 the conference winners that you could guess. Big 12 is chaotic.
Big 12 has many things. BYU should get undefeated to the Big 12 championship game, but that thing is chaotic.

Speaker 1 And then it's going to be Ohio State, Texas, Indiana, probably Tennessee, Notre Dame. SMU.
SMU should, I mean, SMU has a pretty.

Speaker 1 They have one loss to BYU, who's undefeated, and they beat Louisville on the road, who was a ranked team, and they beat Pittsburgh, killed Pittsburgh this past weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the ACC is going to be interesting because I don't know.

Speaker 1 It looked like it was going to be Clemson, Miami, the whole way, and Clemson just dropped a fucking egg against Louisville.

Speaker 6 They got sunned.

Speaker 1 They had no one in the stands at the end of that game. It was crazy.
And they also were running Donovan McNabb offense. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 1 they were down like three scores, and

Speaker 1 the play clock was going to like four seconds.

Speaker 6 Cade Clubnick was puking. Yeah, it was bad.
Disgusting. It was bad.
So, yeah, I think SMU, they could be like number anywhere between 8 and 11. Yeah.
And I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 1 And then Boise State will probably be the G5 team. But there's also, I mean, Tulane's out there.
Army still has a chance.

Speaker 1 There's like 20-ish teams that are two losses or less and have a chance at this thing, and it's pretty fucking awesome.

Speaker 6 So you know, I love doomsday scenarios, right? Yeah. The doomsday scenario in last week, now no longer possible.
Brand new doomsday scenario just dropped.

Speaker 6 If Texas loses to Florida, Georgia loses to Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 Florida, they're on the third quarterback. They have been playing a lot better.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they've been playing better.

Speaker 6 It would be nuts, but it wouldn't be crazy.

Speaker 1 I think their quarterback they put in on

Speaker 1 Saturday against Georgia was a transfer from Yale, I want to say.

Speaker 1 Imagine that. They look good.
Imagine being.

Speaker 6 That was a great loss, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but imagine being the Yale quarterback and then having to get into the Florida-Georgia game in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 That's an insane, insane wave

Speaker 1 difference in competition.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and just difference in vibes in a city. Everything.
New Haven to Jacksonville. Yeah.

Speaker 6 All right, so Texas loses to Florida. Georgia loses to Ole Miss.
LSU loses to Alabama. Tennessee loses to Georgia.
And AM then loses to Texas later on.

Speaker 6 Then the regular season would end with Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas, and Texas AM in an eight-way tie for first place in the SEC. Damn.

Speaker 6 And I think through all those tie-breaking meetings.

Speaker 1 Missouri's going to lose again.

Speaker 6 They might. But if all those things happen, then I believe it would be LSU and Alabama again in the SEC championship.

Speaker 1 That would rock.

Speaker 3 Eight-way tie.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm rooting for it.

Speaker 6 And then you'd probably have, there might be two or three SEC teams that are ranked higher than the SEC champion that ends up getting a buy.

Speaker 1 Just love all these teams day scenarios. Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's just, it's awesome that so many teams are still alive right now. And like I said, the rankings don't matter this early.

Speaker 1 But we did have, so this past weekend, we had the Big 12 just do what the Big 12 does in absolute chaos. Iowa State losing, which

Speaker 1 they could still get in, but one loss, Iowa State, they don't have a great strength schedule. Kansas State catching their second loss.
Now it's BYU undefeated.

Speaker 1 And Deion

Speaker 1 owns their destiny. They do have a tough, tough game at Texas Tech this weekend.
But if they win that game,

Speaker 1 Deion in the playoff would be incredible.

Speaker 6 And Big Cat, do you think that there's any chance that the college football playoff cares about ratings?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think they might.

Speaker 1 Do you think that if a team made the playoff and one of their players played both sides of the ball 120 snaps.

Speaker 6 That might be an interesting storyline.

Speaker 1 For a Heisman. I'm worried about Kim Ward.
Kim Ward is really, really good.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Miami's offense is probably unstoppable.

Speaker 1 And their defense is.

Speaker 1 Miami's just going to be in fun games. Miami SMU would be an incredible ACC conference champion.

Speaker 1 That game would be... I would take the over at 100.

Speaker 6 I would predict that if Colorado and SMU are anywhere close in terms of resume, ESPN is going to be like, we need Colorado.

Speaker 1 They have to win out, though. Yeah.
Because that's the weird thing.

Speaker 1 What happened with the Big 12 this weekend is they probably fucked themselves uh in being a two-bid league because if BYU goes and wins the whole thing it's just gonna probably be BYU yeah BYU would have to run the table then lose to Colorado or an Iowa State in the conference chamber for them to have a chance at two teams and kind of similar to what happened to the ACC if Miami runs it and beats everyone they might only get one so it might just become the Big Ten in the SEC I have have a question for you, Big Cat.

Speaker 6 Yes. Can James Franklin win the big one?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That was the last thing I had is things that we need to talk about.

Speaker 6 But wait, let me finish. So Ryan Day, can he win the big one?

Speaker 1 If it's against Penn State, yes.

Speaker 6 So is that a big one?

Speaker 6 Did Ryan Day just win the big one? Because I was thinking about the transit property, the big one. No.
And I think that Ohio State is Penn State's big one. Yes.

Speaker 6 But Penn State is not Ohio State's big one.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Penn State is Ohio.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Ohio State playing Penn State.
That's not a big one for Ryan Day. But it's a huge one.
It's everything for James Franklin. 10 out of the last 11, same story every single year.

Speaker 1 They get in that game. They have recruiting classes on par.
They have the talent on the field, except they never have game-breaking,

Speaker 1 insane, like wide receivers or guys who can win one-on-one like Ohio State does, because Ohio State always has wide receivers. I think Penn State even has an Ohio State transfer at wide receiver.

Speaker 2 William Fleming.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's not very good.

Speaker 6 But he was like, there's a story going in this game. You're going to use this guy a lot because it's a revenge game.

Speaker 1 It was that

Speaker 1 and Will Howard not being recruited by Penn State. It's like, well,

Speaker 1 he went to Kansas State first. So it wasn't.

Speaker 1 Because he's from Pennsylvania. Drew Aller is also from

Speaker 1 Ohio guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then James Franklin, after the game, got in an altercation with a fan.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 do you think that you should get rid of James Franklin at Penn State?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Do you think he's hit his ceiling? Because

Speaker 1 that was

Speaker 1 if you were going to beat Ohio State at home, pick six to go up 10-0,

Speaker 1 like that's you,

Speaker 1 that was, that was on a platter.

Speaker 2 They'll never,

Speaker 2 I don't want to say.

Speaker 1 It couldn't have started better for them.

Speaker 2 Well, they, and then they play next year, and then they don't, with the new Big Ten, they don't play Ohio State again for another four years.

Speaker 1 Great. So James Franklin's fine.

Speaker 6 That game was over on the interception in the end zone. Somehow the Ohio State defensive back caught.
I still don't know.

Speaker 1 And it had a pin and a half.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's got to catch that ball. Trey Wallace has got to catch that ball.

Speaker 1 Also, I forgot Will Howard

Speaker 1 fumbled out of bounds into the end zone. So you got that, too.

Speaker 2 And also the end of the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that was the worst.

Speaker 1 And that was the part that I think would drive me nuts if I was a Penn State fan, because all you heard all offseason was you got Andy Kodlnicki, and your offense is going to be explosive.

Speaker 1 And they get to a point where all they have to do is get three yards, and they ran the same play up the middle for nothing. That shit sucks.

Speaker 1 And then they, and they, like, why would you not, why not do, I don't like Wildcat. Tyler Warren.
Get him the ball. You can't tackle the guy.
He's a beast. Just fucking snap it to him at least once.

Speaker 1 And then you run it three times you get it to the one and then you decide to pass if you're gonna pass pass on one of their earlier days i know i hate i hate the run run run pass if you're gonna run stick to the run yeah because it also is very like expected like just pass on second down yes and they were doing that weird shit where they had their their linemen split out wide put them in motion to do absolutely nothing

Speaker 2 that was so frustrating well that's what they did in the in the goal line play they did it three times in a row they had the lineman come in motion three times in a row for no reason To not do anything.

Speaker 6 Yeah. To lay the softest block that you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 You know what they did?

Speaker 6 They had him coming in in motion. And when you see the Niners do something like this, you know, Trent Williams is about to get out in front and be like a lead blocker on a smash play.

Speaker 6 They had him come in and contribute to a double team. That's why they put him in motion.
It made zero sense. Also, I love Ohio State safety.

Speaker 6 Caleb Downs? Yeah. Caleb Downs from Alabama.
Caleb Downs is a fucking monster.

Speaker 2 And then Ohio State has a bunch of backup offensive linemen. They have the ball

Speaker 2 on their own one with four minutes to go, and then they just run for seven yards of carry every single time to ice the game.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so what we can take away is that Ohio State,

Speaker 6 they are good enough to be the big one, but they're not big enough to win the big one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, and they will win a fake big one this year because he'll beat Michigan.

Speaker 6 Yep, that's a fake big one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a fake big one this year.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 James James Franklin, got to keep him.

Speaker 1 There's no other option. There's no other option.

Speaker 2 That's what everyone keeps saying, is that it's frustrating.

Speaker 2 He is a good football coach. He puts them in a good position in the college football landscape that most teams would like to be in, but

Speaker 2 he'll never get to that A tier.

Speaker 2 He'll never get to the A tier.

Speaker 1 Can I throw out a name with Pennsylvania Roots that

Speaker 1 I said a lot of nice things about this school earlier, so they can't get mad at me if I throw this name out there?

Speaker 6 Oh, I know what you're going to say.

Speaker 1 Kurt Signetti to Penn State. I think he's from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 I don't know where he's from.

Speaker 6 Yeah, his dad, I think, was the coach at Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I think Kurt Signetti is probably going to get like any job in the country.

Speaker 6 I think this might be his last job, though.

Speaker 1 I disagree.

Speaker 1 He's older.

Speaker 1 I think he'll stay maybe for a couple of years, but that someone offers him.

Speaker 2 He's going to get like a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 I think think I said it last year at the time. Alabama should have hired him.

Speaker 6 He was an Alabama coach.

Speaker 1 I still think Kalen DuBoer is a good coach. He's just, yeah.
But

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 I agree with you. I don't think you can get rid of James Franklin.
They essentially, this entire playoff expansion was

Speaker 1 like going to a roller coaster and being like, you have to be this high. You have to be this tall to ride the roller coaster.
And then Penn State kept on showing up and they weren't tall enough.

Speaker 1 And instead of growing, they just made it a little bit shorter. So now they're going to get into the playoff.
That's essentially what happened to them this year.

Speaker 2 They have to win a playoff game.

Speaker 1 They have to win a playoff game. They might have a home playoff game.

Speaker 2 The way the schedule works out,

Speaker 2 they very well could have a home playoff game.

Speaker 1 Which is awesome. Whiteout? No.
Noon?

Speaker 2 They white out the whiteouts this weekend.

Speaker 6 But you're not going to whiteout a playoff game?

Speaker 1 You wouldn't double whiteout? I don't think you can. What do you mean? I don't know.
You can do whatever you want.

Speaker 6 You got to white out a playoff.

Speaker 1 You got to double white out.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you can double whiteout.

Speaker 1 You can double white out. They do double renegade.
They do double renegade. You can double white out.

Speaker 2 So facto, if you can do double renegade, you should be able to do double white out.

Speaker 6 I mean, what is the most James Franklin possible outcome to this to this season? So they make the playoff, they host a playoff game, and then they beat like a wildly inferior opponent.

Speaker 1 So they would.

Speaker 6 They're not going to get the five seed.

Speaker 1 They won't get the five seed, but they will most likely get, if they win out, they should get a home playoff.

Speaker 2 Yeah, top eight seeds. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They'll be like eight or nine. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to play like Tennessee and get smoked.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.
But if you could, if you could pick like your choice of the worst of the at-large teams, then you beat them and then you get smoked in the second round by a good school.

Speaker 6 That would be like the quintessential James Franklin. Yeah, good season, but.

Speaker 1 And the Bears hire Cliff Kingsbury and then the USC hires James Franklin. Or not Cliff Kingsbury.

Speaker 1 Lincoln stinking rotten.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you.
Best case scenario would be playing like BYU.

Speaker 1 Yeah, BYU, though. They're men.

Speaker 2 I think Penn State would be BYU.

Speaker 1 They're men. Manfoot.
BYU is going to get a buy.

Speaker 6 27.

Speaker 1 Oh, right.

Speaker 1 Fuck out.

Speaker 1 BYU wins out, wins every game. They're a buy.

Speaker 2 Well, they don't even need to win out, right?

Speaker 2 They just need to win the big championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well,

Speaker 1 I don't know what just happened in my throat.

Speaker 1 There could be like Tulane

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 who else? Army. If Army wins out, they could be a top four.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They play Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Either way, Penn State, James Franklin, it's just the same story every single year.

Speaker 6 And it's not a bad story either.

Speaker 1 Well, it is.

Speaker 6 Because I think it's a pretty good story compared to what it could be.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I freely acknowledge this is loser talk. Like, I'm looking at this from a perspective of if you're not rooting for a perennial like top five team in college football.

Speaker 6 But Penn State is like the best of that next group.

Speaker 1 They've won national titles, they have recruiting classes that are on par. They're not like a Wisconsin, they should be so.
I think in that perspective, it is a sad story.

Speaker 6 When was their last national championship? The 80s, yeah, it's been a while, of course.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying, like, they have the, and it's also a recruit, like, I know it's hard to get people to go to Happy Valley, but like Pennsylvania and the Ohio region, like that is a that's a good football region.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, they should, James Franklin, like win the fucking big one.

Speaker 2 I mean, it shouldn't be the same as getting people to go to Columbus as it is getting people to go to Happy Valley. Just Ohio State pays more money and is better at it.

Speaker 1 Well, Columbus is a city, too.

Speaker 2 But Happy,

Speaker 2 I guess, but it's like. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's a good idea. I never buy that anyway.
Yeah, I don't really buy that.

Speaker 2 Like, Penn State is an awesome college town and, like, a great place for college kids because they have a great time.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they get a shitload of pros, and it's just, he just can't win the big one. Can't win the fucking.
They didn't score a touchdown on offense.

Speaker 1 They had a fucking Cotlenicki.

Speaker 1 I just like saying his name.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Yeah, South Carolina. Awesome defense.
Yes. Fun school.

Speaker 1 That is a team where Shane Beamers got him.

Speaker 1 He was on the hot seat, I think, last year a little bit, but

Speaker 1 they have.

Speaker 1 If a couple bounces go a different way, they could have been a playoff team this year because they almost beat LSU, got kind of screwed.

Speaker 1 They took Alabama to the wire. That's a good football team.
Yep. And that's a fun, fun place on a Saturday night, too.

Speaker 1 That crowd, like, when I turned on that game, I bet South Carolina.

Speaker 1 I know that Texas AM ended up coming back a little bit in the first half, but the way that game started, I've never, I was just like, all right, nice.

Speaker 6 I want to know how different schools became the claim holders to very popular songs. So, like, you know how Michigan is now, like, we were the Mr.
Brightside school. Yeah, we invented Mr.
Brightside.

Speaker 6 South Carolina having all the rights to Sandstorm is fucking awesome. I think that...

Speaker 1 Did that just happen because of Beamer?

Speaker 6 I think that happened.

Speaker 1 The Virginia Techno song.

Speaker 6 No, you're Inner Sandman.

Speaker 1 Oh, Inner Sandman. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Sandstorm. The

Speaker 1 techno song. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 It rocks. But yeah, when it's at night and they turn on Sandstorm.

Speaker 7 They did it first, actually. I remember the clip when they first did it.
So I think they were just the, you know.

Speaker 6 The first to recognize Sandstorm? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does Penn State have? The... Oh.

Speaker 1 Zombie Nation. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Zombie Nation.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Penn State has Drake?

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 7 I don't know if it was a Drake song.

Speaker 1 I think they'd have Gary Glitter.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hey. Hey.

Speaker 1 Rock Jams. Yeah.
Jock Jams. Jock Jams.
Sweet Caroline.

Speaker 6 Sweet Carrine would be a good one for Penn State too. Jock Jams.

Speaker 1 Now this is music.

Speaker 6 Yeah. You know, they're still putting out Jock Jams?

Speaker 1 Are they still putting out now? I think so. Damn.

Speaker 7 That's sad. Now that's what I call music? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 There's like 50 of them.

Speaker 6 Dude, Jock Jams changed the game. And by the game, I mean like

Speaker 6 little school in between innings or little league in between innings.

Speaker 1 89 they're on now. That's what I call music.
And it's now just streaming. That's kind of sad.
Needed in CD.

Speaker 1 That's how it goes.

Speaker 6 Yeah, get the jewel case going.

Speaker 1 So, wait,

Speaker 6 what did James Franklin do to a student?

Speaker 1 He just got in a verbal disagreement with a fan. I don't know if it was a student or an older fan, but it was a bad luck.

Speaker 6 Did he smash his phone?

Speaker 1 No, he didn't smash his phone. Like, you lost that game.
You knew you were going to lose that game. You always lose that game.

Speaker 1 Don't act surprised. Just fucking get into the tunnel.

Speaker 1 But yeah, he stopped and had a conversation with the guy.

Speaker 2 Well, some guy was chirping at him, and then he asked,

Speaker 2 What's your name? And then the kid ran away. Which I don't blame the kid for running away.

Speaker 1 Good move by the kid. But also, such a nar move to say, what's your name? Because he's just going to, James Franklin's just going to get that kid kicked out of school.

Speaker 1 Yeah. James Franklin cannot be shocked that fans will chirp him and say, Fire James Franklin after he loses for the 10th time in 11 years to Ohio State.
That can't be a shocking thing.

Speaker 1 He can't be like, what the fuck? Didn't you see me beat USC? Like, what is this? No, but I can understand that he's like pissed off.

Speaker 1 But you can't, if you're getting paid the amount of money that James Franklin's getting paid, just fucking go to the tunnel, dude.

Speaker 6 Yeah, be like Nick Siriani. Attack your fans after a win.
Yeah. To be like, see?

Speaker 2 See, no,

Speaker 2 I'm the opposite. I think that it's

Speaker 2 what Siriani did was worse than what Franklin did.

Speaker 6 Getting mad mad at fans after a win?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 I think that shows like nice, like good fuck you energy.

Speaker 1 No. Well, it shows that Siriani's got fucking water.

Speaker 2 Not when it's a win against the Browns where he barely squeaked away with that win.

Speaker 1 Okay. Sirianni's just got something off with him.

Speaker 6 I think he's a good coach since he shaved his head.

Speaker 1 I just think he's just. He's got something off.

Speaker 6 I think it's all that hair was fucking him up.

Speaker 1 I think Sirianni's like when he's like, if you had a window into the Eagles facility

Speaker 8 I think some days he's screaming some days he's like crying and asking for hugs like just emotionally everywhere we just keep going back to my team yeah sorry okay all right I got something different that's not about Max's team okay I'll save it for hot seat cool throne all right uh let's do hot seat cool throne balls here kids are back in school vacations are over and cozy season is officially on you know what that means bombas season is on bombas makes the most comfortable socks ever and they even make slippers tees, underwear, all crafted from premium materials.

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Speaker 1 Henry,

Speaker 7 my hot seat are the walls.

Speaker 1 Oh, why?

Speaker 7 Christian McClure

Speaker 7 is back in practice. Ah.
Looking good.

Speaker 7 So I guess Ryan Whitney is also on the hot seat.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so you really threw Ryan under the bus pretty big on that because it was Hank's source for a while and then he came the walls.

Speaker 6 And then it was actually Ryan Whitney is the source and he's telling the walls.

Speaker 7 I never reported it.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So what do you think the walls got wrong in the story?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I don't know what Ryan Whitney's source said.
I think it was probably, you know, pretty

Speaker 7 iffy evidence and kind of just hearsay, which is why a journalist or someone with

Speaker 7 higher integrity would not report such a thing.

Speaker 7 But I think it was probably just a rumor that obviously was not true.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 7 So.

Speaker 6 So what are the walls saying about him being back? Have they given an update like what happened?

Speaker 7 The walls have gone MIA.

Speaker 6 Oh, okay, so they're running away from the story. Got it.

Speaker 1 Okay, gotcha. It's a good thing you never put your name on this.
No, no, thank you. That would have been really bad.
I know. Really bad.
I know.

Speaker 1 We would have had to have our president, Pug, put you in jail. Pug would love to put me in jail.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like that Pug's just been there for the rest of the show. I love it.
I kind of like you there, Pug.

Speaker 1 He's president.

Speaker 7 Get Pug on the couch.

Speaker 1 Just keep and watch. Keep and watch.

Speaker 6 You know, any complaints that we have about the show, I'm kicking them directly to Pug. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool turn?

Speaker 7 My cool turn is John Morant.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was pretty cool.
Twice. Very cool.

Speaker 7 And it's just kind of, you know, people forget that he had a long-ass suspension and he's back.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, hand up for the listener.

Speaker 6 You want to explain what John Morant did?

Speaker 1 Yeah, explain what he did. He got hurt, though, too.

Speaker 7 Right, but he hasn't played in

Speaker 1 the hurt that it was last year. Yeah, it was hurt more than that.

Speaker 7 How long was the suspension?

Speaker 1 I don't remember.

Speaker 1 25 games.

Speaker 1 But he also got hurt last year. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 He last night had

Speaker 7 a 360 layup, which does not give it justice to how sick it was. It was probably the most athletic, impressive play I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 He switched hands.

Speaker 1 He went up with his right, did a 360, and then switched to his left.

Speaker 7 And it was like a 360 around a defender, stayed in the air, switched to his left-hand layup.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he did a 360 no scope.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to be.

Speaker 1 I would have liked to see him dunk it.

Speaker 6 I disagree.

Speaker 1 In fact, watching this layup, this now dunk would have been sick.

Speaker 6 I think they should do a layup contest instead of dunk contest.

Speaker 1 Dude, if he dunked this, though, I mean, because he, I mean, it would be, he'd basically have to defy all gravity to dunk that.

Speaker 1 It was sick. John Morant's awesome.

Speaker 6 You know what I liked watching the layup, though? It's because I thought to myself, like, with enough practice, I could possibly do that. Yeah.
Also, not true. Not true.
But it still made me think.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Okay. John Morant cool thrown back.
All right.

Speaker 1 Good job. Good job, Hank.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is bubble teams because college basketball started last night. Yep.
And Cooper Flag, I've seen enough. I think he's a legit player.

Speaker 6 I can report that Cooper Flag good at basketball.

Speaker 6 And Joe Lenardi also put out his first field of 68. I saw this.
And he included bubble teams and the first four out. So Joe Lennardy is before any basketball is played.
His first four out

Speaker 6 are Villanova.

Speaker 1 Shit. Max.

Speaker 2 We looked good last night, kinda, in the second half.

Speaker 1 First four out.

Speaker 6 Wisconsin is in his first four.

Speaker 1 We looked good last night. I feel like in the second half.

Speaker 6 I feel like Leonardi put out this entire thing just to include Villanova in Wisconsin there and piss you guys off.

Speaker 6 Also, yeah, he definitely did this on purpose. He also has Providence as his first four out.
And he knows that the Providence Twitter is going to just absolutely roast him.

Speaker 6 And he's a sick, sick savage that likes getting choked out. So he's like, yeah, yeah, Providence, I'm going to kick the hornet's nest on you.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Also, Providence had a duck in their student section. It was awesome.
Hashtag the duck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Providence Twitter is undefeated.

Speaker 1 We still need to do the interview. We will do.
I've told Josh, our booker,

Speaker 1 when Providence comes and plays DePaul, the Kim English, we need to get him in studio. So we will do that.

Speaker 6 My cool throne is North Korea.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 North Korea back on the cool throne.

Speaker 6 I don't know if this is true, but this is a very funny story, very funny report from Gideon Rockman.

Speaker 6 He said, a usually reliable source tells me that the North Korean soldiers who have been deployed to Russia have never had unfettered access to the internet before.

Speaker 6 As a result, they're gorging on pornography. Who? So North Korea sent a bunch of soldiers to go fight on Russia's side in the Russia versus Ukraine war.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I don't know if the North Koreans are ever going to get there because they're all jacking off because they get to see porn for the first time.

Speaker 1 Good for them.

Speaker 6 Porn is the great equalizer. Yeah.
We used to talk about how no two countries with McDonald's have ever fought a war against each other.

Speaker 6 It's actually just two countries

Speaker 6 with bang bus memberships have never had a war against each other. Good for them.

Speaker 1 Good for them.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's the way to solve world peace.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just get an access to you, Jiz.

Speaker 1 Okay, my hot seat is us.

Speaker 1 And it's just because I had

Speaker 1 one of those self-reflecting moments, the mirror, like looking in the mirror being like, oh, shit, I look stupid.

Speaker 1 This whole election coverage today, especially with the election, everyone tweeting confidently as if they know something when they don't know anything, it made me realize, like, this is exactly what I do with all my gambling picks.

Speaker 1 And holy shit, am I an idiot? Yeah. Like, people just tweeting, being like, I like, this is great for this candidate, and I know it's going to be a win.
No, you fucking don't.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's politics are sports for people who aren't good at sports.

Speaker 1 And who are just,

Speaker 1 like, how do they not even watch sports? Yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 They only get a sports game once every four years.

Speaker 1 Imagine if we only got one football game once every four years.

Speaker 6 Well, they get pre-season every two years.

Speaker 3 True. True.

Speaker 1 But either way, I feel stupid.

Speaker 6 Imagine a one-game season.

Speaker 6 That would rock. How much would that one game mean? That would rock.
And then you overreacted how good your team is. It would be one-to-one game.

Speaker 1 It would mean everything. And then my cool throne is the Yankees and Garrett Cole, because that was very funny.

Speaker 1 Garrett Cole opted out, reportedly opted out of his contract because he had a clause where he could opt out and the Yankees would have to add a year and like 36 million.

Speaker 1 The Yankees basically called his bluff and were like, okay, fine. And go ahead.
And then Garrett Cole's like, just kidding. I'm not going to opt out.

Speaker 6 So he opted out of his opt-out. Yeah.
That's good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like that. Just very funny that he, I mean, maybe Brian Cashman's growing a set because he was just like, yeah, go ahead.
You think Brian Cashman? Should have covered first, dude.

Speaker 6 Brian Cashman was climbing a building somewhere and got attacked. Without a doubt, he's opted out.
And by the time he repelled, he's like,

Speaker 6 he opted back in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it was,

Speaker 1 yeah, Garrett Cole. He just immediately was like, ah, can I get that opt-out back? I don't want to do that.
So he's still a Yankee. And we have the Juan Soto sweepstakes starting to heat up, Max.

Speaker 1 And everyone.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to get 700 million.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I'd like to walk that tape.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 I think he's going to get a stupid amount of money.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be insane.

Speaker 2 But the fact that the way he's going about it just means that, like,

Speaker 2 he doesn't give a fuck who's giving him this money.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Not at all.

Speaker 6 He might play for it. Like, if Saudi Arabia started a baseball league, he might end up there.

Speaker 1 It would be very funny if someone, I don't know what team it would be,

Speaker 1 maybe like the Diamond Back. Or like, what if the Pirates are like, hey, we're not going to actually keep him for this entire time, but let's just sign him.

Speaker 6 Just for one year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll trade him.

Speaker 2 I took a wager on the DraftKings sports book of any other team. I feel like if there was ever an any other team, it would be this one because it could be anyone.

Speaker 1 Who was the other one?

Speaker 2 The Phillies were in any other team, but there's also

Speaker 1 plenty of people. Who was in the other side?

Speaker 1 Yankees Dodgers Mets here let me pull up a I have a screenshot of it because I want any other team

Speaker 2 the Dodgers that would be very funny okay it's the Yankees the Mets the Dodgers the Cubs who the Blue Jays the Nationals the Giants the Red Sox the Mariners the Padres the Tigers and then any other team I don't know about that Max yeah well the Phillies weren't any other team so that's why yeah there's I mean there's a lot of other teams in any other team.

Speaker 2 There's so many other teams.

Speaker 6 And there's a lot of rich guys that own those other teams. Yeah.
That could just decide, let's make a splash.

Speaker 1 Tigers would be a fun one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tigers would be a fun one. They would be.

Speaker 6 Actually, you know what? I'm calling it, I think that Juan Soto will be signing with the Mideast Falcons based out of United Arab Emirates in Abu Dhabi. It's a league that's opening up next year.

Speaker 6 He's in. That's where all the money is.
He's in.

Speaker 1 Okay,

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, one of our favorite football guys in the world. It is Baldy Brian Baldinger.

Speaker 1 You can find him on NFL Network, Fox Sports, Compass Media Networks. He's doing calling games every single week.
Baldy, week nine, halfway point.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to have you here because we love talking ball with you. I want to ask the first question is the question that I think is probably the most important question in the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 How the fuck do you stop the Detroit Lions on offense?

Speaker 3 Can you play with 12 men? Can you find an extra guy? Seriously. I feel like every team is a man short.
Green Bay was a man short last week.

Speaker 3 Their offensive line, it's a battle between Detroit and Philadelphia, who has the best right now. But, you know, Panay Sewell can move.
I mean, you could just put a piano on that guy's back.

Speaker 3 He'll take it up 18 flights of stairs for you. He's just a different difference maker.

Speaker 3 But they just have the perfect combination right now of Montgomery, who's your muttering closer, Jameer Gibbs, who's your home run hitter. And oh, by the way, Jared goff doesn't miss an open receiver

Speaker 3 so they're they're pretty much unstoppable on offense right now and i don't know

Speaker 3 i don't know what defense is out there right now that can keep them under 30 points at this at this stage yeah yeah i guess the formula would be just don't let their offense on the field yes just if you can you know you play keep away yeah run the play keep away is is one way or limit the number of possessions you know where you can limit them to seven or eight possessions because they're going to get Jameson back.

Speaker 3 And J-Mo, you know, from anywhere on the field, he's just maybe as good a home run hitter as there is in football. And so he's coming back, which is even going to make them more dynamic right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And what do you think about the trade? So they bolstered up their defense today.

Speaker 6 And so now it becomes even harder to do anything against him.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, sometimes you need the right guy, right? Like Zadarius Smith, to me, is he's a guy that you want in your building. Got a smile on his face every day.
He's a tireless worker.

Speaker 3 I mean, he's not Aiden Hutchinson, don't get me wrong, but he has that culture to him. Like he was drafted by Baltimore.

Speaker 3 Like everywhere he's been, like he adds a little something, something to the team, his work ethic. He is a good pass rusher and he's a tireless worker.
Like he's going to fit in really well.

Speaker 3 They need that. right now.
That was a good pickup. There was other guys out there, but Zidarius is still playing a lot of snaps.

Speaker 3 He's not an aged veteran where you just put him on a pitch count and you send him out there. Like he's a legitimate every down player right now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we were talking about this on Sunday night, but missing Aiden Hutchinson feels like the Lions, they're going to miss him for sure, but they're still a good enough team to at least appear right now to be the class of the NFC.

Speaker 6 But the problem would be if their defensive line suffered another injury and they're already downed Aiden Hutchinson. Now, what do you do?

Speaker 6 So I feel like by doing this move at the trade deadline, they've just made themselves a little bit safer.

Speaker 3 Yeah, look, but you know, they gave up 400 yards of offense to Tennessee the week before. They didn't look like a dynamic defense.
They lost

Speaker 3 Brian Branch last week during the game. Kirby Joseph took his place.
I mean, leads the league in interceptions with six. He's had 14 in the last two and a half years.

Speaker 3 I mean, nobody talks about Kirby Joseph on the back end, but I feel like, you know, Hutch was a big part of the pressure that forced quarterbacks to throw the ball up to your free safety, let them come down with it.

Speaker 3 But, you know, they're, they're still talented. I mean, Elene McNeil and DJ Reed are inside.
It's tough to run against those guys inside.

Speaker 3 You can skiing, pass rush a little bit, but you're going to be a little vulnerable on the back end. So this just makes a lot of sense.
It's the arms race right now.

Speaker 3 You're going to see a lot of teams make moves. I won't be surprised to see Jadevian Clowney get picked up by a good team, you know, right now,

Speaker 3 whether it's receivers, whether it's defensive linemen, you know, guys that change the game right now, I think are going to be on the move here sometime today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it does feel like there's going to be an active trade deadline. All right, so the other team, I have it right now.
It's obviously the Lions are the kings of the NFC right now.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are undefeated. The Chiefs, I feel like when watching the Chiefs,

Speaker 1 people are frustrated because they don't look dominant, but I think they're just as good as they've they've ever been because they play great defense.

Speaker 1 They can run the ball when they have to, and they also are just insane on third down. It's essentially like every Chiefs game, they fuck around and then third down comes and they figure it out.

Speaker 1 What is it like if you're an AFC contender and you're looking at the Chiefs? Is there something that can be exploited or is it like these guys just keep doing the same thing?

Speaker 1 And Patrick Mahomes is going to be there in the Super Bowl in February.

Speaker 3 Well, they don't just keep doing the same things. I mean, DeAndre Hopkins makes a difference.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, I mean, look, he's been there two weeks. He's catching two touchdown passes.
You know, it's third and eight, and Mahomes throws it.

Speaker 3 Like, the good thing about Mahomes, he could care less about his stats. Everybody will talk about nine interceptions.
And like, he threw the ball into triple coverage last night, DeAndre Hopkins.

Speaker 3 He already trusted him to go up and get it. And there's Antoine Winfield Jr.
back there, the highest paid safety in football. And he's looking at his glove like he's got a hole in his glove.

Speaker 3 Well, Hop just took it away from him. So, you know, he scores two touchdowns last night.
They take the drive in overtime, right down the field, 10 plays, 70 yards.

Speaker 3 You know, if they want to run it, because some teams can't run it when they have to run it. Well, Kareem Hunt ran 20 times for 90 yards in the game-winning touchdown in the second half last night.

Speaker 3 If they want to just be a power-running football team, they're as good as anybody.

Speaker 3 If they want to throw it, like Travis Kelsey, the last two weeks, he's got 28 targets. and 20 catches and 190 yards.

Speaker 3 Like, if they just throw it to Kelsey and Nuke right now, they're going to be just fine. And then they go get Josh Ushe to rush the passer.

Speaker 3 I mean, they know exactly their weaknesses, what they needed to address, and they've done it. And so they've got the best player in the league, the most creative coach in the league.

Speaker 3 They're ready to three-peat right now. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And what do you think about Xavier Worthy? Because we all know he's fast. We all know what we saw at least like week one from him.
He's fast. The man is fast.
You can definitely say that about him.

Speaker 6 I don't know if he's a great football player right now, but he's at least a threat in theory that he's going to go downfield.

Speaker 6 Do they would you consider him to be a guy that's going to affect a defense at all just because you have to know that he's there?

Speaker 3 He's like a chief gadget player at this point. You know, you can run him on some reverses like they did to week one where he got a touchdown off a reverse.

Speaker 3 You know, last week, the last night, you know, I mean, for him not to get his feet in bounds right there is ridiculous. I mean, that's just lack of awareness.
And maybe he's just young. Who knows?

Speaker 3 But it's just hard outside of Tyreek Hill, honestly, it's hard for a small guy to be a dominant player in this league. It's just too easy to cover him up.

Speaker 3 All these corners, look, Worthy can run a 4-2 in the 40 or 4-1-8 at the combine, whatever it was, but every corner can run 4-3.

Speaker 3 So if you're a 6-1 corner and you're covering Xavier Worthy, you're not going to get a lot of separation. You're just not.
I mean, you're going to get these 6-1 corners just shadowing them.

Speaker 3 It's going to be hard to get him the ball. And that's what you've seen.
That's why they keep going out to get guys. Go get me.
I'd rather have a big power forward than a small power forward any day.

Speaker 3 Give me, you know, 6'4 Nuke out there over a 5'10, you know, Xavier Worthy at this point.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So in the AFC, who do you have second behind behind the Chiefs right now? Is it the Bills? The Steelers look really good.
The Ravens?

Speaker 3 Well, you got to consider the Ravens right now. I mean, they're going to...

Speaker 6 They meet next week in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 I'll be doing that game. Like that, that game is just played differently than every other game in pro football in today's world.

Speaker 3 Like it looks like I expect Troy Palomalo to walk out and Ray Lewis to walk out. Like I anticipate just like literally just full-speed collisions.
It's just different. It's just violent.

Speaker 3 It's so much fun. Like I wish everybody could just be on the sideline for that game and just hear the collisions.
It's going to feel like a NASCAR pileup.

Speaker 3 But you got to consider Baltimore. You got to consider Buffalo the way they're playing because they are an excellent running football team right now.
And they use all three backs.

Speaker 3 And Josh Allen, the way that Joe Brady is putting this offense together, they just create so much space to make easy throws, whether it's to Coleman or whether it's to Shakir or to Kincaid.

Speaker 3 It doesn't matter. Like they're creating space.
And then Josh can create his own offense when he needs to. And so

Speaker 3 you have to consider Buffalo. So Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, for sure.
And I don't want to count Cincinnati out yet. They just made a move to get a running back

Speaker 3 because Burrow is just going to, he's just a flamethrower. He's an assassin.
He's just going to keep firing until they get this thing right and they're still in it.

Speaker 3 So these games are going to be big down the stretch. They're in a crypt.
But if anybody can come out of a crypt, it's Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 So you mentioned Cincinnati. They picked up Khalil Herbert from the Bears.
I have to ask a difficult question about the Bears because it's ugly right now.

Speaker 1 And Khalil Herbert also said, thank you, God, when he got traded. So that doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1 So the tape, I actually watched some of it on Monday, which I tortured myself. What is the fix for me?

Speaker 1 And you could tell me if I'm way off, but it does feel like Caleb Williams is pressing a little bit where there's some easy stuff underneath.

Speaker 1 Take the ones they give you and a lot of home run stuff. And I don't know, like the locker room feels bad.
Everything feels bad right now.

Speaker 1 Is there something on tape that you're watching that you're like, this is how they can maybe right the ship a little bit?

Speaker 3 Well, some of the things that they do defensively, first of all, I'll get to Caleb. But like, you know, Dee Mercado goes 50-something yards

Speaker 3 with 20 seconds to go and a half. I don't know what defense they're in.
I don't know. They're blitzing on the play.
Like, it's 20 seconds to go in the half.

Speaker 3 Just like the week before against Washington, you just give, you know, Terry McLaren, you know, know, 13 yards of field position with from six seconds to two seconds to throw the Hail Mary. Yep.

Speaker 3 Like it's just, something's just missing their defense because they're a good defense. They just give up these plays that they shouldn't give up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Then offensively, like you can't take anything away from the cornerback play of the Arizona Cardinals. They deed up every receiver, DJ Moore.
They deed up, you know, Keenan Allen.

Speaker 3 They deed up Aroma Dunze. They were all over the place, those defensive backs.

Speaker 3 And so I give Arizona a lot of of credit and then you know buddha baker his blitzes and timely blitzes and then the offensive line of chicago honestly like they're not very good they're very average um when they run the ball really good the offense looks a lot better like they did when they had a little win streak going and that kind of you know they lost the left tackle against washington then they lost jenkins against washington they got these backups in there you know They had this kid, Army Gage, from Yale.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Third round pick.
I mean, they didn't even dress him last week. He was so bad against Washington.
He was an inactive player. So, you know,

Speaker 3 they don't have good depth there behind the five guys. And the five they have are just an average group right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's bad. It's ugly.
You mentioned the Bengals.

Speaker 6 I think this is as close as you'll ever see to the Bengals being all in on a season because this is the third trade that they've ever made as a franchise in history.

Speaker 6 They've only traded for three guys.

Speaker 1 And it was for a backup running back. And it was for a backup running back.

Speaker 6 The Cincinnati Bengals, ladies and gentlemen, are all in right now.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't say that Mike Brown throws money at any issue.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Not really their style in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 You know, they lost Zach Moss.

Speaker 3 I don't know how long he's out for.

Speaker 3 He was their starting running back.

Speaker 3 So they got Chase Brown, who's a good back, and Khalil Herbert, I never really understood why Chicago wasn't playing him. I thought he was a really good back with Montgomery there.

Speaker 3 He's had really good days in this league, and he's not playing. So they went with Roshan Johnson.
So he's fresh as can be. He hasn't played at all this year, but I think he's still a good back.

Speaker 3 He's a good contact runner. They want to be able to balance things up a little bit.
And so, you know, if you put Khalil in there in that offense with Chase Brown and you get T.

Speaker 3 Higgins and that receiving core with Jamar, like offensively, they're capable of putting 30 up on anybody. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then on the NFC side of things, Bald, do you watch the tape? How much tape are we grinding these days?

Speaker 3 Oh, every game.

Speaker 3 Every game. Every week.

Speaker 1 When are you done with every game?

Speaker 3 Like, what time of the week are you done with every game um well like i got a little head start on sunday because i did the the eagles game uh against jacksonville so i was able to come into my office here at nfl films after the game and get a start so usually it's 15 hours on monday and it's 15 hours on tuesday and i try to get all of them done by tuesday night but sometimes it leaks into wednesday that's awesome i feel like you know honestly like every like there's bad teams in this league obviously darren rizzy's taking over for head coach in in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 They're a bad team, but they have some good players on the team. So I feel like

Speaker 3 all 32 teams should get represented by Baldi's breakdown.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I love it. You owe it to them.
You owe it to the players. It's actually funny.
You watch more football on Monday and Tuesday than you do on Sunday.

Speaker 3 Yes. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 Like twice as much. That's awesome.
So

Speaker 6 one question I had about the NFC side of things is the 49ers. Because

Speaker 6 we feel like the 49ers could put it all together. Kyle Shahan, pretty good coach in the second half of seasons, not necessarily of games, but of seasons.

Speaker 6 And so if everyone's kind of like waiting for them to get on that little roll here, what do you see in the tape from the 49ers so far?

Speaker 6 Obviously, no Christian McCaffrey yet, but what do you see on tape? And does it tell you that this is still a good football team that can improve? Or is this a flawed football team?

Speaker 3 They're not. I mean, they're not what they were the last two and a half years without McCaffrey, but they still run the ball very well with Jordan Mason and Isaac Garendo.

Speaker 3 They've been excellent in the run game. You know, they lost Ayuk.
He was never really a big factor after the holdout. So, you know, maybe Ricky Pearsall can pick it up.

Speaker 3 Kittle's having an amazing season. The quarterback has thrown 10 touchdown passes in eight games.
It's not good enough. They're not good enough in the red zone right now.
But maybe Pearsall coming on.

Speaker 3 Maybe McCaffrey started practicing. Maybe he comes back.
We don't know what we're going to get yet. And defensively, they've been good.
They just haven't been great yet.

Speaker 3 I expect them to make a move for a defensive lineman here at some point today. Maybe cloud.

Speaker 1 I need help up front.

Speaker 3 But the thing that's held them together, honestly, is they've got an awesome rookie class. Like this Dominic Pooney, this Mustafa Green.

Speaker 3 You look at Pearsall, like they've got Garendo. Like their rookie class has been amazing.

Speaker 3 Good teams need juice from their rookies. But the NFC West right now, Arizona leads it at 5-4.
They just made a move to get a a defensive pass rusher.

Speaker 3 The Rams are going to make a second half push. They're too well coached, and they're getting good players back.
And the four guys they've drafted on the defensive line, Fisk and Verse this year,

Speaker 3 Brown and Turner last year, they're really good and only getting better. So it's going to be, it might come down to the 49ers at Arizona in week 18 this year to see who comes out of that division.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy. The NFC West has four, like, you know, I wouldn't say no one's running away with it, but the four teams that they have are all good teams, can beat anyone.

Speaker 1 So week nine is right around where we're getting to like, you know, the real football and the narratives kind of like, hey, early season narratives are you are what you are.

Speaker 1 What team is it that you're watching that you're like, hey, this team is starting to play really well and people aren't really paying attention to it right now?

Speaker 1 They maybe started a little bit slower and they're in the muck and they're not the Chiefs or the Lions or the Ravens, but they're they're coming on and they're going to be a at the end maybe it was just the rams but if you have another one

Speaker 3 well i mean even last night i mean tampa's playing without mike evans right now but he's the biggest red zone threat in this league since randy moss and they're not going to have the same firepower without mike evans but you know they've they've dealt with their share of injuries nobody's making any excuses but they're running the ball way better than they ever have and baker's playing good football And maybe they should have gone for two when they scored, you know, at the end of the game last.

Speaker 3 Maybe they should have gone for two on the road to go win the game. Maybe that would have been the right call.
Who knows? But they took Kansas City to the brink.

Speaker 3 Like, I think they still are a good football team. I know Atlanta's got a two-game lead on them in the division, but I believe that they could still be a good second half team.

Speaker 3 They're playing a lot of young guys.

Speaker 3 That's not a bad thing. Sometimes if you got the right guys, they're going to be a lot better at the end of the season.
They started a corner last night that's never started or played before.

Speaker 3 Like, sometimes these guys just need to get seasoned, and they can be good additions at the end of the year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Bucs is a good answer too because their schedule I think gets a little bit easier. They've been playing some really, really good teams.

Speaker 1 I know they have the 49ers this week, but after that, you know, they still got to play

Speaker 1 the Panthers, I believe, twice. They still got to play the Saints.
They have the Raiders. Like they, they can, and the Cowboys, I mean, the Cowboys, the Cowboys are dead, right?

Speaker 1 That season's over.

Speaker 3 Well, you know,

Speaker 3 we said this, though, like, you know, when free agency hit and the Eagles were out there signing, you know, Saquon Barkley and making all these moves and the Cowboys were signing a free, you know, a long snapper.

Speaker 3 Like, we said that the roster isn't good enough to compete. And then you look at Dan Quinn leaving Dallas and bringing in, you know, 15 free agents that are all starting.

Speaker 3 And they're all, you know, whether it's Bobby Wagner or Frank Louvu, you know, you just look at what they did. They rebuilt the team and they're much better than Dallas right now.

Speaker 3 So I just like, look, they've played played without Micah Parsons and Tank Lawrence. Nobody would be good defensively without those guys.

Speaker 3 But, you know, offensively, they're a challenged football team. I don't know what Jonathan Mingo does for this receiving corps right now.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I played for the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 They always had great running backs, always.

Speaker 3 You're going back to Dan Reeves and, you know, Walt Garrison. They, you know, Tony Dorcett and Emmett.

Speaker 3 To see them line up with the running backs they have is just a mystery to me. You study the history of that organization.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 In the NFC East, it does seem like it's down to two teams, the Commanders and the Eagles.

Speaker 6 I am a Commanders fan, but I feel like I'm a realistic Commanders fan in that I think that the Eagles have a better roster than us. I think that they're a better team than Washington right now.

Speaker 6 But Washington's on a roll. They beat every team that they should beat.
They've struggled against some of the better competition they played.

Speaker 6 But how do you see it shaking out between the Eagles and the Commies?

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, right now, you can't get Jaden Daniels to make a mistake. Like, he just plays mistake-free football every week.

Speaker 3 And it's not because he's, you know, he's playing conservative football. I mean, the guy's just,

Speaker 3 he's Lamar Jackson, you know, and what he's been able to do right now. Cliff Kingsbury's been perfect for him.
And so their offense is really good. I think defensively, they're very average.

Speaker 3 They've been playing with a big lead. And so Dan Quinn's been able to blitz a lot to get pressure.

Speaker 3 And if they give up a play, they've been able to overcome it. But I think they're average on defense.
But you wouldn't know it by watching how confident they play right now.

Speaker 3 But they're a legit offense right now because of the way they can run the ball, control the ball. They score at a very high percentage right now of possessions that they get.

Speaker 3 And so it's hard to get the ball away from them. Giants tried like hell last week.
They couldn't get it away. They couldn't get them to make a mistake.
So they win these close games because of that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, three turnovers this year.

Speaker 1 That's a record so far.

Speaker 6 Like, it's crazy, only three turnovers this far far through the season. And the Eagles, on the other hand, though, the Eagles do seem like they've figured something out in the last three weeks.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, they have. They look like a different team.
So what have they figured out?

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, you know, some of the players went to Nick during the bye week and they're like, look, we're holding the ball forever. We're getting away from the run game.

Speaker 3 Let's just get back to running the ball and play action passes. And that's what they've been doing.

Speaker 3 And with that.

Speaker 3 I think Saquon's going to win the rushing title. Like, I know Derrick Henry leads the league in rushing, but I think Saquon's going to win it.

Speaker 3 i i think their offense line is better than baltimore's um and i think that you watch makai beckon in there at right guard like he's just you know there's just he's just a freak like the way he can move people with lane johnson and you know they're going to get mulata back and landon dickerson like if they just keep running it and get a j brown back and play action pass there they're going to be a very difficult offense to stop yeah uh whoever they play they they just pulverize people right now like dallas better

Speaker 3 wear that double chin strap this weekend when they come down there to Dallas to play him. Um, like, it's always a battle with these two teams, but I think Philadelphia can

Speaker 3 really attack Dallas where they're the weakest. They're bad run defense, and they might look like that on Sunday.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's uh, Saquon Barkley would be going for the rushing title in the last week of the season against the Giants.

Speaker 6 And I don't think that Saquon is going to take him out like he did a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 3 That'll make every Giant fan feel good.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think Saquon, and that one, he's going to be like, Yeah, you know what? Screw screw the younger guys. I'm going to just play the full game here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's going to pace for over 2,000 yards. So he's, you know, he's playing the best he's ever played.
Yeah, he's been incredible.

Speaker 1 So, Baldi, on Monday's show, we talked about there's nine teams that have two wins, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 We came up with the concept, the Tuper Bowl, where we're going to have

Speaker 1 Final Four of the two-win teams. I think what do we have? The Dolphins winning it all? I think we have the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 Are you guys putting that up against the puppy bowl?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should.

Speaker 1 We should.

Speaker 6 I mean, listen, the fact that there are nine teams with two wins is actually mathematically almost impossible. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. So, so my question to you, though, is

Speaker 1 two wins. You're not going to go to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Statistically, it is almost impossible. But

Speaker 1 one or two of those two-win teams is going to be spoiler, is going to play better than they are right now in terms of their record. Who are those teams?

Speaker 1 What are the two two-win teams that you're like, watch out? That's not an easy one. They are still playing hard and they still got a lot of talent.

Speaker 3 Oh, Tennessee Titans. Yeah.
Tennessee for sure. Like they legitimately can run the football.
You know, Pollard's having a good season. Bill Callahan's coaching the offensive line.

Speaker 3 JC Latham was the right pick at left tackle. Skoronsky was the right pick the year before.
They're building their lines. You look at teams that end up turning things around.

Speaker 3 Look in the trenches and see what they have.

Speaker 3 Watch devon like my one of my favorite players in this league is devondre sweat yep i call him t pain because he just brings pain he's 360 pounds he like he can run he can like make life miserable for any offensive lineman you put him next to jeffrey simmons like they've been in a lot of games they won last week they gave they put up 400 something yards offense against detroit the week before Like that's a team that if you have that bowl game on Super Bowl up against the puppy bowl, I watch the Titans against somebody else instead of the Puppy Bull.

Speaker 1 You got to, by the way, I mean, T-Payne's good nickname, but his nickname is Meatloaf. You got to go with Meatlao.
Meatloaf.

Speaker 3 Meatloaf is good, but anybody could call a big guy Meatloaf.

Speaker 1 I feel like T-Payne is a good rapper's name.

Speaker 3 It's a great, like, I'm changing it from Meatloaf to T-Payne. Okay.
I love watching that kid play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I agree with you on the Titans.

Speaker 1 I've been ridiculed because I've been betting them a lot because I think their defense is still a top 10 defense, and they, you know, they've had trouble with the quarterback. So that's one.

Speaker 1 What's another two-win team that people should be looking out for where it's like, hey, don't take them lightly.

Speaker 1 They'll play spoiler.

Speaker 3 Well, the Giants, I mean, look, the quarterback

Speaker 3 is a problem, but they have talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, this.

Speaker 3 You know, you look at, you know, Brian Burrs, Dexter Lawrence, you know, Ojalari, O'Karaky. They've got talent.

Speaker 3 Offensive line has actually played pretty good, considering they lost their best player, you know, in Andrew Thomas. They've actually played pretty good.

Speaker 3 This Tyrone Tracy running back, this kid out of Purdue, like he's had some big games this year. And Malik Neighbors might be the best rookie wide receiver.
Like they still have talent.

Speaker 3 They're in these games. You know, they could have beaten Cincinnati.
They could have beaten Washington last week. I know coulda, woulda, shoulda.
I know all that. But still, like, they could still

Speaker 3 play hard. They haven't packed it in yet.

Speaker 3 You could question coaching decisions, some of the stuff. But like, I wouldn't take that team lightly on any given week.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Can you tell us a little bit about the Saints interim head coach? Because we're a big fan of him. Yeah, yeah.
He looks like a football guy.

Speaker 6 And one of the things I like about him is on his Wikipedia page, when you look up any like biographical info about this guy, all they have is just football. So he's only done football.

Speaker 6 There's absolutely no fun facts about him out there, which I think is good for an interim head coach. But can you tell us something about him? What should we expect from him?

Speaker 3 Well, he's got the best military Marine Corps haircut going in the NFL. Like it's right, it's Johnny Unitis.
Like it's right out of 50s, you know.

Speaker 3 Look, he's been

Speaker 3 in Miami and New Orleans since leaving the small college ranks. He's been special teams coach and he's been an assistant head coach in a lot of places, like he is now.

Speaker 3 He was the assistant head coach here in New Orleans. He was assistant head coach when Dan Campbell was down in Miami.

Speaker 3 And if you look look at one little aspect right now of what they've done in New Orleans, he believes in putting the ball in play on kickoffs and covering the kickoffs.

Speaker 3 If you look at him, they probably have returned more kicks,

Speaker 3 had teams returning kicks more than any other team. And he does it for two reasons.
One, he wants his coverage team to get action. And sometimes your defense is a product.

Speaker 3 of your kickoff coverage team. And then number two, he tells me that one quarter of all kicks have a penalty by the receiving team, which backs you up.

Speaker 3 And instead of getting the ball at the 30, you might get it at the 15. And so I just think that's a creative aspect to this whole kickoff rule that looks boring to everybody else.

Speaker 3 But in New Orleans, they've been covering kicks all year and they've actually had good success doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Baldy, I got to ask this question because of our producer, Memes, who's a die-hard Jets fan.

Speaker 1 Is there a path?

Speaker 3 Yes. Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay. There's a path.

Speaker 3 They go to Arizona. They go to Arizona after this buy.
And so,

Speaker 3 you know, look, it's, it, you know, you beat a good team on the road. Arizona is a good team right now.
They don't beat themselves. You go down there, beat Arizona, you get to your fourth win.

Speaker 3 All right. Now you start, you start that feeling.
You can see how Aaron and Devontae are starting to come together. You saw what Aaron and, you know, Garrett's doing.

Speaker 3 And they actually played that game against Houston with two backup guards in there. They had the the rookie in there, Olu Fasciano at right guard, Max Mitchell at left guard.

Speaker 3 They actually look better. Like, I don't, like, if they have injuries at the offense line and Morgan Moses can't make it or, you know,

Speaker 3 Tyron Smith just falls apart because of his age, like, I feel like they got backups in there that can, they can get Brees Hall going. Like, there's a path.

Speaker 3 There's a path because I think the best football can still be in front of him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 That cop meme's very exciting.

Speaker 6 He just gave him life for the next two weeks.

Speaker 1 That AFC playoff picture is going to be very interesting because you got those five teams, you could say right now, in

Speaker 1 the Chargers, the Broncos, the Colts, the Jets, and the Bengals. And it's going to probably be two spots for those five teams.

Speaker 1 And if everything else holds in terms of the Steelers and the Texans and everything,

Speaker 1 I love the Chargers. I love the way they're playing football.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that seven seed would be. I don't know who's going to get hot.
If it's the Bengals, the Jets. I mean,

Speaker 1 the Broncos are a five-win team they obviously looked bad against the ravens but they they have some nice things as well

Speaker 3 oh well i mean up until last week baltimore just you know it was just too much lamar um he was just you know he had his fourth perfect quarterback rating oh by the way that's the most in nfl history of anybody peyton manning anyone four perfect quarterback games i mean they couldn't do anything to stop him but but denver's a legit defensive team they're very well built and look the quarterback uh was not great last week against Baltimore, but

Speaker 3 Sean Payton's done a good job coaching that kid. Like, they're well coached.
Like,

Speaker 3 they're going to win their share of games here and be in the playoff picture into December.

Speaker 6 Yeah. What about the Chargers? What about our guy Harbaugh? He's done a great job so far.
The Chargers haven't looked splashy. They haven't looked flashy.
They're not a sexy team right now.

Speaker 6 They're playing great defense. What is making the Chargers? Well, they're not just great defense.

Speaker 3 They're the best defense in football right now.

Speaker 1 They've had three games this year where they haven't given up a touchdown.

Speaker 3 And last last week, they're doing it with two rookie corners, two fifth-round corners that are starting, you know, and they were able to keep

Speaker 3 everybody out of the end zone there. Cleveland, who came off a great game, and Jameis Winston looked like Jameis Winston, you know, what we're used to seeing Jameis last week against them.

Speaker 3 They played great.

Speaker 3 You know, they've always been a bad tackling team and an injured team. Well, they're not an injured team right now, and they're not a bad tackling team.

Speaker 3 So the hardball effect is taking effect and now they're getting plays like you know lad mcconkie is becoming a really good player and quinton johnston now cleveland just gave him free touchdowns last week like i don't know what they did like the right hand wasn't talking the left hand the left guy's wide open but still i mean

Speaker 3 this is a like they're gonna they're gonna make noise they they're they're playing the way hardball wants them to play if they're not But when you are the number one defensive football, you're the number one defensive football.

Speaker 3 If teams aren't scoring touchdowns, you have a chance to win every week. Yep.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah, they've been great.
And so, buddy, one thing I love about you, obviously, the film, you watch all the film, but

Speaker 6 you have a love of just physical football and the most physical dudes in the league. Who's one guy that you've been watching this year that's getting you excited?

Speaker 6 That's like, you know, that's a physical man.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I love watching Dominic Pooney play in San Francisco. Like, every team needs a Pooney.

Speaker 1 You know, like, it's just, and you know, look, I mean, we never talk about guards, but guards are people, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That guy's played every snap for San Francisco this year. Like, he just, he's just a great, you know, he's a great kid.
Doesn't say two words.

Speaker 3 Tevandre Sweat, like T. Payne is legit.
Me lad. That guy, people that are 370 pounds shouldn't be able to move like that and play 70% of the snaps.
Like, he's fun to watch.

Speaker 3 You know, and then if you look at... Daniel Falalele in Baltimore at 390 pounds.
Like, you know, you can't, he's, he, he's, he's in eclipse. Like, he just blocks out the sun.

Speaker 3 There's a reason why Derrick Henry runs behind him for these 10 touchdowns he's run for. You can't, you can't see around him.
You can't see through him. Like, those guys are just fun to watch.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Every team needs a pony.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Baldi, this has been so much fun. I got one last question for you.
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Speaker 1 What team that you watch the tape is doing something, whether it be offensively or defensively, that you're like, wow, this is stuff no one else is doing right now?

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously, we know Ben Johnson.

Speaker 1 Kevin O'Connell is a great coach, but what's an under-the-radar coordinator that you're like, man, this guy is dialed in and he's calling, he's hitting all the right buttons.

Speaker 3 I feel like Joe Brady in Buffalo is that guy. Like, if you, I was just watching and studying the game this weekend against miami which was a great game and two it couldn't play any better but

Speaker 3 what he does by formations and his route combinations is he just creates space like you could take three receivers on one side and run them on vertical routes and all you're doing is creating space for somebody coming on a drag or a cross and there's this big window there and he constantly and it's so it's easy throws for josh and one of the and and then you know they run it more than they throw like all the good teams in the league now.

Speaker 3 It's been a huge shift. Like there's 10 good teams in this league that are like the Eagles that are running it 56% of the time, the most in the league.

Speaker 3 But Baltimore, Detroit, San Francisco, Kansas City is 50-50. Like the best teams in the league are running it more than they're throwing it now.

Speaker 3 But then if you look at the coordinators, what are they doing in the passing game?

Speaker 3 they're making these throws really easy and identifiable for Josh. He'll take all the easy throws you want to give him.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, at the end of the day, when he has to make a play, he's still Josh Allen. So I feel like Joe Brady in the passing game right now is very under the radar.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good answer.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so what teams out there could be thinking soupy right now? How many teams are actual Super Bowl contenders?

Speaker 1 Give them to us on your money.

Speaker 1 Count them with your hands. I want to see your hands.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, you know, you go, you know, Detroit, Philadelphia right now, Baltimore, Kansas City, like those four look like final four teams.

Speaker 3 But, you know, you've got to consider what Minnesota can do because of the firepower and offense and what Flores does on defense.

Speaker 3 You got to still consider Houston. They're going to get Nico Collins back.
He's going to make a difference right now.

Speaker 3 You feel like either the Rams or the 49ers, one of those two teams is going to come out of the West and they'll be really well tested. You know, I wouldn't go to sleep on Atlanta at all.

Speaker 3 Bijan looks like he's he's poised to have a great second half of the season, the way they used him last week.

Speaker 3 Drake London, Pitts, what Kirk is asked to do. And defensively, they've got playmakers in the back end.
Like, I feel like those are eight legitimate teams right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's

Speaker 1 as much as the nine two-win teams, and there's some bad teams, it does feel very wide open at the top. And the fact that we have some great football coming up.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 No, this is going to be like, you know, it's going to be Thanksgiving before we we know it you're gonna get three games on thanksgiving look maybe dallas giants doesn't float your boat on thanksgiving but other games will then we get to the holiday season where we have games saturday and sunday all the way through this you know and so and monday night and thursday so it's it's going to be all football all the time uh when we get to december and these games are all going to get flexed you're going to get great games in in these windows And so just get on your couch and get your remote ready.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 6 Are you going to wake up to watch the Germany game, the Giants and the Panthers?

Speaker 3 Well, I'm always awake, so I don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 3 I want to see the Panthers.

Speaker 3 Because I think that Robert Hunt is an underrated guard, and Chuba Hubbard can run through anybody. So, yeah, I'm anxious to see that game.

Speaker 1 You're the only one. Love it.
You're the only one anxious to see that game. It's great.

Speaker 3 I've always got an eye on the Giants just because I still feel like there's something still

Speaker 3 there that maybe they can unlock. Like two years ago, they made a run to the playoffs.
Nobody thought they could. Like, who knows? Maybe it just gets unlocked.

Speaker 6 You've inspired me to be a better football fan. I was considering taking that game off, but you might have talked me into it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Baldi, thank you as always.
We love having you on. We'll have you back on closer to Christmas time.
Talk some more football. And you're the best, man.

Speaker 3 Appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up with some listener-submitted roasts. Appreciate everyone subscribing.
Keep subscribing on Spotify and iTunes. It's a very big help.

Speaker 1 It still blows my mind when I go look. You know, there's the top podcast charts, which are just like we've been around for so long that we're just somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 But when you go look at top episodes on both Spotify and iTunes, it's just politics, politics, politics. Oh,

Speaker 1 our two dumbasses. Politics, politics, politics.
So thank you, everyone who subscribed. It's crazy to look at.
Hopefully, maybe we can climb the charts now that the politics are over.

Speaker 1 We're done with politics.

Speaker 6 Yeah, politics is over.

Speaker 6 Politics is a one-day season. Yeah.
And so

Speaker 6 you get a long preseason that lasts 364 days, and then the regular season, and sometimes overtime. And maybe if we want to get on the politics charts, we'll just have Hank do a politics podcast.

Speaker 1 Hank's political corner. I did say that it would be funny

Speaker 1 if we had titled this episode like Decision 2024.

Speaker 1 Just to see, people would be pissed, but it would have been funny.

Speaker 6 I did vote. Hannah, I voted four times today for Pepsi Rookie of the Week.

Speaker 1 Nice. Yeah.
There you go.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank.

Speaker 7 Did we bump up memes on the iTunes after we told people?

Speaker 1 The Spotify. Spotify has a new subscribe.

Speaker 7 No, I thought it was, I thought it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's

Speaker 1 Apple. Yeah.
All right. So do it on both, please.
We did not bump up. We're not in the top one market.
God damn it. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the episodes, we're already, every time there's a new episode, we're like, it literally is like the, it's like Joe Rogan, the daily, yeah.

Speaker 1 Some other politics, and then us.

Speaker 6 Well, there's always one new podcast that comes out just so that they can screen grab it and be like, look, look at us. We're a top podcast.
And then that goes away after that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're currently at number five on Apple's top episodes.

Speaker 1 Top episodes. Nice.

Speaker 6 All right, so what we have to do is...

Speaker 1 And who's ahead of us? Just politics?

Speaker 2 Elon Musk on Rogan. Yep.
Fair.

Speaker 2 The Daily.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then True Murder.

Speaker 1 What's it called? Yeah, that's right. I forgot about the murder.
True crime. And then on Spotify, I think we're seventh right now on top episodes, and it's the same.

Speaker 1 It's like it's Joe Rogan one through three, Caller Daddy, and then us.

Speaker 6 So what we have to do if we're going to engineer how we can climb these charts, we already talked about maybe getting Hank to date like Rihanna or Beyonce, Cardi B, top female celebrity.

Speaker 6 Hank should also do politics and Hank should also commit a murder that me and Big Cat can solve.

Speaker 1 We solve that.

Speaker 6 That would be great producing, wouldn't it? If you killed somebody and me and Big Cat did like five episodes trying to find out who did it. Turns out, plot twist, it was Henry.

Speaker 1 I'll get crazy. If you do those three things,

Speaker 1 you can get out of the dunk bet.

Speaker 1 No, the dunk bet's almost over. Oh, okay.
Well, I'm saying you don't have to pay it.

Speaker 6 I think Hank should be eligible for unlimited golf for an entire year. If you kill someone.
If you murder somebody, and we get to solve the mystery.

Speaker 1 You got to do a good job of killing someone. I don't want you to solve it.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe that's. Yeah, maybe we're just inconclusive at the end.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Because then I don't get unlimited golf.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, we'll figure it out. Maybe just date Rihanna.
That's easier. Fine.

Speaker 7 four we got four rows today listener watched PMT to see a big cat fluctuate weight while their co-host suffers a midlife crisis revolved around hair treatment buying muscle cars without putting gas in them and falling for his new QB you're forced to stick around to see the VP of nothing pretend to make decisions on his producing team while they scheduled coups and have a hefty Italian steals the mic from a lovable man child and his aggro-roited friend oh that's memes

Speaker 1 Memes has got a bad reputation around here. Memes is roited now? Yeah, I like that.
That's actually

Speaker 1 a compliment. But

Speaker 1 memes got a...

Speaker 1 There was some scuttlebutt because memes apparently tried to fight someone during pickup basketball on Friday, which means I have your back now that I know that Jack McCarthy tried to take you down mid-air.

Speaker 1 That's a fight-worthy play.

Speaker 1 It was a walk-in layout. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's a fight-worthy play. If you're in the air, that's a dangerous play.

Speaker 1 You do have anger issues, though.

Speaker 1 I could get to a point where I get very angry, but I think it's fine. And we got a bunch of babies, though.

Speaker 7 It was not that serious. It wasn't like.

Speaker 1 Have you seen the tape?

Speaker 1 Were you there? Yeah. Oh.
Yeah, so I'm on memes' side.

Speaker 2 I mean, memes went up to Jack McCarthy, screamed in his face, do you want to go?

Speaker 1 You almost.

Speaker 1 I don't know

Speaker 3 how much closer it can get.

Speaker 1 Can you narrate for us?

Speaker 6 Because we haven't seen the tape. We don't know that.

Speaker 6 I heard from what Memes told us about the play. What was the play?

Speaker 7 It was the foul, right? Some people.

Speaker 1 I didn't see the foul. Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 I want to hear everybody. Hold on,

Speaker 1 I got to get a little context, though, before you talk about the play, because some people are saying memes was called for a travel on the play before, and he was mad about that.

Speaker 2 That was the base of all anger.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right.

Speaker 6 So let's take it from the start. So memes flagrantly traveled.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I was not playing in the game, so I didn't see any of

Speaker 1 any of what.

Speaker 1 Some would say it's it's a gather step. Eight drop steps.
I heard eight steps. I was coming down, spun.

Speaker 2 We're going to have to get this done. Took two extra steps, threw it up behind me, hit it off the backboard, went in.

Speaker 1 It was a sick play.

Speaker 6 Okay, so you spun and then took two steps. That sounds like a walk.

Speaker 1 The gather step was a spin.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right, so go ahead, Hank.
But if it misses, then I probably was just like, yeah, it was travel. Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, that was it. I just don't.
I think, you know,

Speaker 7 when you're playing competitive basketball, sometimes, like, especially with Rise, but it's not that it wasn't that serious.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 7 What memes just said. He just said it.

Speaker 6 That was a walk.

Speaker 7 I didn't think it was a walk. I didn't think it was.

Speaker 1 No, I'm talking about the.

Speaker 7 And then

Speaker 7 they were just John. Yeah.

Speaker 6 But on the layup.

Speaker 1 Was he, did he pull him down?

Speaker 7 I didn't think so. I thought it was, I mean, it was a physical play.
Like,

Speaker 6 no easy buckets.

Speaker 1 90s basketball?

Speaker 7 Not even.

Speaker 7 Everyone's just Divas.

Speaker 1 What do you think about do you want to go? I mean, memes does have.

Speaker 1 I defend memes here. Memes also does.
I mean, there was that time, it was two weeks ago when I came in and memes.

Speaker 1 I think he had had his fist clenched for like three hours because I walked in and he looked like he wanted to punch it.

Speaker 7 That's fair, but I think there's like you can ask someone if you want to go. If you actually throw a punch, then you have an anger problem.
But like, that's true.

Speaker 7 When you're in a heated, when you're in a heated, you know, if you're in a basketball game and

Speaker 7 you're in between the lines, like that can get to a point. You'd be like, oh, you want to go? But that doesn't necessarily, like, Max.

Speaker 7 I mean, Max almost in that context, Max, like, fully threw his bottle cap at Stephen Che as hard as he could from point blank.

Speaker 1 Good point. That's correct.

Speaker 7 Good point. But that wasn't.

Speaker 1 What was that for?

Speaker 2 He started rooting for the Jags. He was doing the first

Speaker 6 wars for no reason. Yeah.
Just to make Max angry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it sounds like boys would be boys.

Speaker 6 If you ask somebody, you want to go, like, that's, you're asking for consent. You should be taught to do that.
And it's like, if somebody that is weak says that to you, then it's not a big problem.

Speaker 6 But then when a roided-out macho man like Memes says it, and it's like, oh, no. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like having an ugly dude ask you out as opposed to an attractive guy memes let me ask you a quick question how many people in this office have you

Speaker 1 you're not I don't I actually don't I'm not concerned about you fighting anyone but how many people have you visualized beating up

Speaker 1 not beating up but like punching and how many of those people are in this room right here no I

Speaker 1 I genuinely like you guys but there's been

Speaker 2 moments yeah but that's got to be a hundred percent yeah no probably just max max Max.

Speaker 1 Hank, you're saying Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Hank doesn't yell. Yelling triggers me.

Speaker 1 Max, just like, we could be talking about offensive linemen, and he'll just, like, Max gets to a level of just office chatter, and he'll just start screaming.

Speaker 1 I'm a passionate guy.

Speaker 1 But you've definitely wanted to punch Hank. That's a lie if you say opposite.
No, Hank gave me a job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but in that job, there have been moments where you're like, I wish he'd never gave me this job. Yeah, but there's nothing that's been that serious.

Speaker 1 and then looking back, it's just always overblown. Yeah, yeah, which falls back on the anger problem.

Speaker 6 Memes does say the anger sharks are swimming out loud.

Speaker 1 He says that about me often

Speaker 1 whenever I start to get angry, he likes it because it's the Philly guy.

Speaker 1 He sounds like something you'd say to a toddler. Have you ever seen that? He's from Anger Memes.
Oh, okay. You've never seen that movie.

Speaker 6 This is how dedicated to the game memes is. He steps in and intervenes on himself by thinking of a meme to calm him down.

Speaker 1 The anger sharks are swimming. I love it.
I love it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Next one.

Speaker 7 A Taylor Swift podcast that sometimes discusses current sports is hosted by a 40-year-old man wearing Spanks, a middle school Bible teacher with a midlife crisis.

Speaker 7 The show is produced by a guy with Good Luck Chuck Syndrome and a mukbanger who loves Philly's sports.

Speaker 1 Wait, what's Good Luck Chuck Syndrome?

Speaker 7 I mean, everyone

Speaker 6 that you date gets married after.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 6 what is Gomas up to?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Gomas.

Speaker 1 By the way, that brought up.

Speaker 1 Did you get any blowback for your Taylor Swift comments, Max? Zero. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 2 I said it was for saying that she was beautiful.

Speaker 1 One of the most beautiful

Speaker 2 pop stars. That's about as

Speaker 2 safe as you can say.

Speaker 6 One of the most?

Speaker 2 You just want someone else to get Taylor Swift blowback.

Speaker 1 No, I don't care. I don't want you to go through hell.

Speaker 1 They don't even do anything anymore.

Speaker 7 Guests include the fat kid from Stand By Me who often recites poetry about one of the hosts, meh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was, come on, you're taking a shot at Jerry.

Speaker 7 A wonderful way to get sports news from a dog, a little person who loves airplanes and Jane Daniels, but is scared of heights and woman,

Speaker 7 an obese man who is delusional about the bears,

Speaker 7 an even obeser crybaby from Philadelphia,

Speaker 7 and the keeper of the light, Willy Wonka's grandpa.

Speaker 1 Who's the dog?

Speaker 1 Pug. Pug.
Oh, Pug. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we haven't gotten on the Willy Wonka's grandpa thing recently, Hank.

Speaker 6 That was hot in the streets like a couple years ago. I feel like we should bring that back.
What? Grandpa Joe.

Speaker 1 What about him?

Speaker 6 Didn't people call you Grandpa Joe for a while and you got mad about it?

Speaker 7 I don't know. So they call me Feeble Knees.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what is Feeble Knees? I've been proven wrong.

Speaker 7 It's just they don't think I'm going to dunk.

Speaker 1 I think I have feeble knees. You got diamond knees.
I got, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got this. I feel good.

Speaker 7 I think I'm going to have a shot.

Speaker 7 John Crux, Autistic Italian nephew, produces a show hosted by a near-sighted cocker spaniel in an anthropomorphic doughnut.

Speaker 2 He's just trying to get Hank to say words here.

Speaker 7 Executive producer Henry happened to be there, Lockwood, continues to keep Ryan Rossillo's thigh from being the whitest landmarks in the sports podcast late.

Speaker 6 That was a good roast.

Speaker 1 Anthropomorphic, that's having human characteristics.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so you're just a donut donut with cameras. You're a live-action donut.

Speaker 6 Acclaymation donut.

Speaker 1 You got one more? Nope. Okay.
That was good. I felt good.
Yeah. We got to bring, we got to do roast more often.

Speaker 1 Feels refreshing to get roasted every now and then.

Speaker 1 All right.

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Speaker 1 Uh, okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers:

Speaker 1 five,

Speaker 2 nineteen, eleven, four,

Speaker 1 three.

Speaker 1 Wow, I gave that to you, mean four wins. We're going four wins this week.
99 Pug. Oh, your mic's not on, Pug.

Speaker 1 Mike's not on.

Speaker 3 99 Pug.

Speaker 3 21.

Speaker 1 Is there a twang on that, Pug? I like that. 99 Pug.

Speaker 1 Pug Pug. What was your number? Young Pug.

Speaker 3 Hank? 19.

Speaker 1 Memes and PFT. You guys have never gotten this one.
I've never gotten it. I need one of you to get it so that we can start bullying the other person.

Speaker 1 It's not fun when it's two. I've never gotten it.

Speaker 2 It was fun when it was three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 96.

Speaker 1 96.

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