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Today is Wednesday, October 30th, and the New York Yankees have life

Speaker 1 thanks to two scumbag fans that took over the internet. That we tried to get on this show, but holy shit,

Speaker 1 the Capabianco brothers stole the the show and the Yankees bats finally woke up and the Bronx is burning.

Speaker 5 It was awesome. Good for those guys.
I mean, you go to that game and I saw people clowning them online saying you spent $5,000 for front row seats just to get kicked out.

Speaker 5 No, that's maybe the most well-spent $5,000 of all time for those guys.

Speaker 5 They're heroes. If the Yankees, if the Yankees turn this around and win the World Series, I don't know what the new regime is going to do.
George Steinbrenner would put them in Monument Park.

Speaker 5 He would just encase their bodies, still alive, in bronze, and then put them out in the outfield. That's the best use of $5,000.

Speaker 5 And it's funny because, you know, of course, you shouldn't interfere with the ball in play.

Speaker 5 But at the same time, the fact that these two guys were straight out of central casting in terms of like scumbag Yankee fans makes it hilarious.

Speaker 5 Like reaching into Mookie Bett's glove, trying to pry it off, reaching and taking the ball out, and then like holding their hands up. Like,

Speaker 5 we didn't do nothing.

Speaker 1 When I say scumbag, I mean it in like a loving term because that's what they are. And I think they would be like, Yeah, of course we are.
They,

Speaker 1 for people who missed it, it was one of the funniest things. Uh, I know, again, you shouldn't reach into the stands, and I didn't like when they grabbed Mookie's arm, that was a little too far.

Speaker 1 But my, there were a couple moments that were laugh out loud funny. One, obviously, just trying to grab the ball out, like the ump isn't standing right there, and there's not a million replays.

Speaker 1 Two, one of the Capio Bianco brothers did like an invisible line

Speaker 1 where the wall is, as almost as if Mookie Betts is not allowed to put his glove past that line. This is our house.
This is our territory. You're not allowed to make a play here.

Speaker 1 Like it was going to actually,

Speaker 1 the ump was going to be like, oh, yeah, you know what? You're right. That's not

Speaker 1 good call, boys.

Speaker 1 He crossed the threshold.

Speaker 5 It's like you're in the back seat of a car and your brother comes across the center line. You get to hit him.
He was on my side. That's what they did with Mookie Betts.
It's like,

Speaker 5 I can reach into that glove. They tried to crack it open.
It looked like they were trying to crack open a crab to pick the lungs and knee out.

Speaker 5 It was just like put two hands on the glove, separating it. And then the one dude with, I mean, who wears sunglasses at night, like a real piece of shit like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But he reached over and he had a sliding mid on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had a sliding mid on. And he, it's,

Speaker 1 listen, again, don't do that. But the Yankees were desperate.
They needed something. Those guys sparked the Yankees.

Speaker 1 Like, I believe that those guys are responsible for this win and those bats waking up because basically

Speaker 1 all the Yankee fans sitting in Yankee Stadium tonight were like, do something. And the Capo Bianco brothers are like, you know what? We'll do something.
We're going to take matters into our own hands.

Speaker 1 We also, PFD, you mentioned the seats and how expensive they are. So obviously

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 paper had their name and they were posted everywhere. They do follow us.
So shout out these guys at probably AWLs.

Speaker 1 One of them has in his bio, work way too hard, but I'm blessed with season tickets to the best team in the world because of it. And New York Yankees, let's go.
And then to quote in the paper, because

Speaker 1 they were, I think they got fined $1,000 a piece. Or no,

Speaker 1 they got ejected. I don't know if they got fined.
The tickets were $1,000 a piece.

Speaker 1 Darren Capobianco,

Speaker 1 when he was, when the athletic reached out for comment, he said, I just see the ball kind of,

Speaker 1 I don't want to say go up for grabs, if that makes sense. And then Mookie was swearing at us.
Not good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Mookie swore at me after I tried to punch his arm off the ball.

Speaker 1 Not good.

Speaker 5 Listen, again,

Speaker 5 it's the best use of money that you could have as a fan. I 100% believe that.
Like you turned around the vibes of a World Series game. That's as good as you can get for those tickets.

Speaker 5 So congratulations to them. And then also, I guess a little bit of credit to Volpe, too, because he played his dick off tonight.

Speaker 5 You know, know, if Aaron Judge showed half the resolve and fight that the Capo Bianco brothers did, this series would be over. It would have been a sweep tonight.

Speaker 1 Aaron Judge is getting so sad. Now, he did have a hit tonight.
He had a hit in an RBI, and I think he had a walk as well. But it's getting so sad for Aaron Judge.

Speaker 1 He was up in the eighth or seventh, one of the later innings, and John Smaltz was like, you can see he's a lot less jumpy at the plate. That's what we're, that's basically where Aaron Judge is at.

Speaker 1 looks a little more, and then he immediately flied out. But it is, I'm just happy we get more World Series.
This was supposed to be an all-time World Series, it looked like it was going to be a sweep.

Speaker 1 The Dodgers are so goddamn good. Freddie Freeman has homered in six straight World Series games, it's insane.

Speaker 1 Uh, and I do think the Dodgers are going to win this series, but at least we get at least we get a little fight out of the Yankees by their fans, by the by the stands.

Speaker 1 Uh, and Ashanti, great national anthem. Shout out Biz and Witt.
They, they, they had Ashanti dead earlier this morning in a podcast clip, which they got a confused Aaliyah. Those guys are the best.

Speaker 1 And so I bet the Yankees say, because I was like, Ashanti game, have to do it. And the Yankees have life.
Yeah, good. I'm glad.

Speaker 5 More baseball, more Equinox. Good for everybody.

Speaker 1 Yes. So I do.

Speaker 1 I mean, hey, guess what?

Speaker 1 Listen, Garrett Cole is going tonight. Like, the Yankees aren't dead if Garrett Cole's on the mountain.
That's why you pay him so much money.

Speaker 1 He's supposed to be the guy that goes out there and shoves. So Max, do you have any comment about

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Heritage of the Capo Bianco brothers?

Speaker 1 What, Italians? Yeah. Passionate guys.

Speaker 1 I also

Speaker 5 doesn't that mean like head Bianco? They're like the top Biancos.

Speaker 1 Bianco might mean white.

Speaker 5 They're the top whites.

Speaker 1 Top whites. Yeah, that checks checks out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that definitely checks out.

Speaker 5 Those are the whitest guys in America right now.

Speaker 1 Our good friend Tom Fresnelli texted me because when we were trying to get these guys on, which we, I mean, maybe we'll still get them on if they want to come on Thursday.

Speaker 1 I hope they go to the stream in New York City at Barcelona HQ because that's my next goal. Like, we were trying to get them on.
The window was small.

Speaker 1 Now that they couldn't come on tonight, I want them sitting next to Tommy Smokes and Hubbs and Marty.

Speaker 1 I want them on stream just screaming because I don't think they're allowed back in yankee stadium but our good friend tom fornelli texts me he's like if you do get them on please ask them how they ended up with the name austin capo bianco because that does feel like a miss that was they went like gen z name first name and capo bianco that that they need to be salvatore and tony joey yeah something like that but the capo bianco brothers they They deserve a statue if

Speaker 1 they win the World Series.

Speaker 5 Yeah, literally put them in Monument Park.

Speaker 5 It's easy if you're the Yankees and have them in the ticker tape parade going down the Canyon of Champions or whatever the fuck they call it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 listen, I don't like the Yankees.

Speaker 5 It's hard to root for the Yankees, right? I think we can all agree on that. But Hank, do you have any advice to the Yankees on how to battle back from being down 3-0 in a baseball series?

Speaker 2 You got to have great pitching.

Speaker 2 And you got to have a loose team. You got to have your stars playing well.

Speaker 1 Garrett Cole.

Speaker 2 So I think they're screwed.

Speaker 1 So they're screwed. Garrett Cole on the bump.
Then we got Garrett Cole on the bump.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Dodgers, but I was rooting for the Yankees tonight, not just because I bit them, but because I wanted more baseball. I wanted more World Series.

Speaker 1 And as soon as the Capo Bianco Brothers came out, it's like, you have to win for them.

Speaker 5 You have to win for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Mookie, I mean, he swore at them.
Not good.

Speaker 5 And also, he went into their space. It's like, it's like, they call it the Bronx Zoo, right?

Speaker 5 So you're at the Bronx Zoo.

Speaker 5 You don't stick your hand into the tiger cage and think that you're not going to get bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there also was some fake reports going around that they were yelling.

Speaker 1 That was fake, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was a fake report.

Speaker 1 A fake account, yeah, because there was some fake accounts making up some stories about them.

Speaker 1 Listen, we don't know them, but as far as we know, those were fake, the stories that were being tweeted about them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not good.

Speaker 5 Whatever problematic statements they've made in the past, I want to go ahead and pre-disavow before they come out.

Speaker 5 But we don't know if they've actually said anything bad. But if they have,

Speaker 5 just know that we do not, on part of my take, condone that part of their bad behavior. We do condone the bad behavior along the right-field line.

Speaker 1 Well, Mookie Beth sword.

Speaker 1 Not good. True.

Speaker 1 I just love the not good.

Speaker 5 I love that he said, I don't want to say, but anytime somebody starts a sentence by saying, I don't want to say, it's about to be a fucking banger. That sentence is about to go triple platinum.

Speaker 1 I want to read the whole quote again. I just see the ball kind of, I don't want to say up for grabs, if that makes sense.
And then Mookie was swearing at us, not good.

Speaker 1 Did you see a security guard who kicked him out too?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 The video of the guy wearing like the full Italian silk suit with the non-existent Don Mattingly sideburns and the flat top kicking him out. That rock.
That was awesome. Man, they did.

Speaker 1 I think the other brother said when they was reached for comedy, he's like, we're just trying to enjoy the game.

Speaker 1 Like they were watching the game somewhere. They probably got a hero's welcome at Billy's Tavern or whatever it's called.
So, all right.

Speaker 1 Other quick things before we kick it back to ourselves and talk some football and have Paolo Bancaro. Joe Flacco is back officially.
Anthony Richardson has been benched. This is a move that is a...

Speaker 1 I don't know. I keep struggling with it because, again, we've talked about this, I feel like, every single week.

Speaker 1 If you draft Anthony Richardson in four, you got to play him because you got to see what he is. But it feels like the Colts might have just said, hey, we have a chance to maybe make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 If we win a couple games here, Joe Flacco can win a couple games. And thank you to the Colts because they play on Sunday Night Football this week.

Speaker 1 And that would have sucked if it was Anthony Richardson. And they're like, hey, let's put Joe Flacco in and give America a little treat.

Speaker 5 This might be our last Flacco in primetime game. Just know that.

Speaker 5 So make sure to tune in.

Speaker 5 Tell everybody tell a friend to tune in and watch sunday night football because like we said you got to cherish every single joe flacco start that you get and yeah i'm going to make sure to do that uh as far as the anthony richardson thing goes it's the fact that they kept losing every game within one score like all their losses within one score that's what did it if you're getting blown out then you can probably still say we're going to start anthony richardson and see if we can work with him develop him but the fact that you're so close in all these games if you're the head coach, if you're a Shane Steichen, you have to start him because you're wasting what could be

Speaker 5 a playoff season. And also, you also risk losing the locker room when all the other guys are dependent on the quarterback for their salary, they're not getting the ball, the offense isn't moving.

Speaker 5 All those other guys then are like, hey, dude, what the fuck? I'm playing really hard, and you're absolutely tanking my chances at future contracts here. So

Speaker 5 I get why it had to be done, but at the same time, I also think that

Speaker 5 it's not good and you're you're essentially giving up on a very very high draft pick from just last year.

Speaker 1 And this is I mean, this is how the NFL works now. It's the teams, I feel like the leash for a quarterback is

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm trying to think. Josh Rosen probably was the first one, but it's, it's, it feels like if you don't, if you don't show anything for whatever, 10 games a season.

Speaker 1 I mean, Andrew Richardson has played less than 10 games because he was injured last year, but Bryce Young's the other one.

Speaker 1 And I don't totally disagree with it in the fact that if you think it's never going to work,

Speaker 1 it's better to move on quickly than to compound the mistake and just keep trying to do it, even though you know it's not going to work. Yeah.
No, I agree.

Speaker 5 And I think that

Speaker 5 we've seen a lot of plays from Anthony Richardson where it's like, that is not a play that a good quarterback makes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hopefully he figures it out on the bench and learns from Joe Flacco and he has another chance because I would like to see him get another chance.

Speaker 1 The other news was Stefan Diggs is out for the season for the Texans, which the Texans are a little snake bitten right now. They need Nico Collins back real bad,

Speaker 1 but that's tough for Stephon Diggs to be out for the year. And now they're down to, I mean, Tink Dell's the guy right now.
And I don't know. I don't know.
That offense looks not great all season.

Speaker 1 I mean, it looked okay when Nico was playing, but it looked clunky a lot of times, and they lose a big weapon in Stefan Diggs. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, the AFC feels like it maybe got a little bit easier.

Speaker 5 Mixon playing helps, though. Yeah, it definitely helps the offense.
And Tank Dell is a very, very good player.

Speaker 1 And their defense is still very, very good. Yeah, their defensive line is elite, and they'll still be in games, and CJ Stroud will figure it out.
It's just like

Speaker 1 if your goal was to win a Super Bowl, Stefan Diggs being out might hurt that goal.

Speaker 5 Yeah, for sure. And I think Diggs is on a one-year contract, too.
So he's going to be a free agent again this offseason.

Speaker 5 All I know is I am thinking about laying a hammer down on the Jets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 Hell no. I'm thinking about doing it.
You saw their uniforms.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we're going to talk about them in a second. I don't know, PFT.

Speaker 1 That feels like the biggest trap ever because the Jets are just going to be the team that all season were like, well, this is the game. They'll prove it.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And then they just won't. And we'll just keep doing it and saying this will be the game.
I mean, it's Aaron Rodgers' derangement syndrome. I am the leading case of it in America.

Speaker 5 My theory is that they will not get any lower than they are right now. Like, everyone's shitting on the Jets.
Everyone is shitting on the Jets.

Speaker 5 Aaron Rodgers is drinking water with cayenne pepper in it.

Speaker 1 I think it's been

Speaker 1 pretty low.

Speaker 1 Okay, we have anything else? Was there anything else that happened between when we recorded this afternoon and now?

Speaker 5 There was one piece of news.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 5 snubbed again. Part of my take.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 For the eighth year in a row, we did not win People Awards Sexiest Podcast Award. And I just want to say that they got it right.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 maybe for our 10th year, which we got to start thinking about, boys, we're what, 15 months away from the 10-year anniversary? 16 months away. That's pretty crazy to think about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are, Hank. Are we not?

Speaker 2 No, we are. It's crazy to think about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 16 months away.

Speaker 1 I think the boys just go fucking crazy on some plastic surgery and try to win this award one year. Listen, I'll do it.
Just butcher our faces. Just look like completely different human beings.

Speaker 5 I'll do a lot of things. I don't think I'm ever going to take a surgical option to make my appearance improve at all.

Speaker 1 It would be great if we could do plastic surgery, temporary plastic surgery.

Speaker 1 If we could just have a month where we just looked like completely different human beings and looked super hot.

Speaker 1 What? Botox? I don't know. I ain't doing that shit.
I put a needle in my face.

Speaker 1 I'm down for Ozempic.

Speaker 1 What? Ozempic's down on Superman. We don't get on Ozempic.
Yeah. Yeah.
We just get super hot, super jacked. Yeah, get, get like,

Speaker 1 I don't even know what other

Speaker 1 Botox? I don't know. Lip filler? I already have full lips.
I don't know what I have to do.

Speaker 5 Lip filler would rock, maybe raising your ears, the facelift, tummy tuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could use the chin.

Speaker 5 I could get the shin lengthening surgery. Get like six inches added.

Speaker 1 That would rock.

Speaker 1 I could get a breast reduction.

Speaker 5 Maybe I'll do, I'll just get my entire face changed, and I'll say it's because I had a broken nose and I was snoring too much at night. So I had to get nose surgery.

Speaker 5 And no, it's not plastic surgery, but then come out of it looking like a totally different human being.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should do it. Or we could just hire two super hot interns and just have them be on the cover art.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Catfish. Like Millie Vanilli.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 How do you think the podcast?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, before we talk, some Monday Night Football, college football. Man, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1 That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Monday night football.

Speaker 1 I can't believe that I ever doubted Mike Tomlin again after coming to the conclusion that Mike Tomlin is a top five coach in the NFL.

Speaker 1 I know he hasn't won a playoff game in a very long time, but all he does is run a great locker room and have a competitive team every year.

Speaker 1 But Mike Tomlin, my apologies, putting in Russell Wilson was the right move.

Speaker 5 That's a crazy, ballsy move that he made, too. Yeah.
And so for all the hate that he gets being mediocre, Mike.

Speaker 5 And also, I think there's like two things about Mike Tomlin that are true always, every year. One, people call him mediocre Mike.

Speaker 5 Two, people also say like, this might be Mike Tomlin's best coaching job. Yeah.
They say that every single year about Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 1 It just depends on the week.

Speaker 5 But this was a ballsy move that he made. It was a very ballsy move.
And if you've watched the Steelers the last two weeks, and we don't know, like primetime games, I've learned that this year.

Speaker 5 I'm trying to absorb that into

Speaker 5 every core fiber of my body. That just because a game happens in primetime doesn't mean that it means anything more.

Speaker 1 Well, it does.

Speaker 5 But it's at night. Yeah.
It's at night, and the terrible towels are going, and renegades playing, and it's a whole thing. And they've won 22 straight on Monday night football at home.

Speaker 5 They did lose a Monday afternoon game in 2020. On Wednesday.

Speaker 1 No, it was a Wednesday.

Speaker 5 No, it was a Monday. It was a, I think

Speaker 5 that might have been a different game.

Speaker 5 They lost to the Commanders in 2020. I think it was supposed to be a Sunday game.
It got postponed to Monday afternoon at 5 p.m.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was the Monday?

Speaker 5 Yeah, but they also had a Wednesday football game, and I think that was the Ravens, maybe.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 They definitely had both.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 COVID fucked everything up.

Speaker 5 And then Monday, yeah, but when it's Monday night football, games played after 5.01 p.m.

Speaker 5 on Monday night. They just don't win.
That might be the craziest record in sports, the craziest streak in sports game.

Speaker 1 Well, there's there's a crazier one.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones is now 1-15 in primetime games. Yeah.
That is quite something. By the way, the other part of the Mike Tomlin switching to Russell Wilson, which it is nuts.

Speaker 1 I know they gave the job to Russell Wilson before the season, and then he got hurt, and you can do the whole thing. You know, you never lose your job to injuries.
But still, they were 4-2,

Speaker 1 and you're making a switch at quarterback. I thought it was crazy.
It turns out I'm the crazy one. Mike Tomlin's a smart one because here's the other thing that happened.

Speaker 1 They got one of the best free agent picks or trade deadline pickups in George Pickens because he looks like he actually cares. This was completely unlocked with Russell Wilson.

Speaker 5 This is what's awesome about George Pickens because you have him doing hilarious. He's the Jameis Winston of wide receivers.
Correct. Is what he is.
So he'll make spectacular catches.

Speaker 5 He'll just get one foot down. He'll make a spectacular catch.
He'll get hit and then he'll get up and throw one of his six mouthpieces at the cornerback.

Speaker 5 He'll try to drop off somebody on the top rope like he did yesterday,

Speaker 5 which was just an insane insane play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the turnaround was so great, too. Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's like,

Speaker 5 if you gave a six-year-old exceptional athleticism, that's how he acts. Like a six-year-old that's on a sugar rush from drinking

Speaker 5 too much sugary drinks, and then you put him on a football field.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to start skipping halfway through his route sometimes. But this was George Pickens two weeks ago.
We were watching tape of him not even trying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now Russell Wilson is throwing moon balls to him, and he's completely unlocked. And the Steelers are...
And here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 That was just a classic TJ Watt game where he is the closer for that team.

Speaker 1 Where if you get it, if the Steelers can get the game script going where they're up late in the fourth quarter, TJ Watt will just end the game.

Speaker 1 And unfortunately for the Giants' right tackle, Jermaine Elminor, I don't know how to say his last name, Elminor,

Speaker 1 all-time bad quote because during the week he said he wanted to be left on an island against TJ Watt.

Speaker 5 Maybe he just meant like Jersey Jerry wants to be left on an island, just hanging out. Yeah, that's a log capital.

Speaker 1 A desert island.

Speaker 5 A log capital or someplace up in the Rocky Mountains.

Speaker 1 Should the Giants sell now? I think they should because Mr. Mara has already said, and I actually believe him, that they're not going to make any changes to the front office and coaching staff.

Speaker 1 So if you are the front office and you're not going to get fired, why wouldn't you try to trade anything you can for draft picks and then extend your stay?

Speaker 1 Because you're like, well, we have draft picks and we got to see how they turn out.

Speaker 5 So I would believe Mr. Mara, but the last two times he did that, he went back on it.
Yeah. So he did that to Joe Judge.
I think it was in November of Joe Judge's last year. He said, he's our coach.

Speaker 5 We're not making a change. And then three weeks later, he made a change.

Speaker 5 He did that. Was it McAdoo?

Speaker 1 Probably McAdoo.

Speaker 5 He told the press, like, McAdoo is our coach. We're not going to make a change.
We're not firing him. And then, like, two weeks later after that, they fired him.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So, like, the last two times he's said that about a coach.

Speaker 1 Now, Brian David's better than both those guys.

Speaker 5 And again, like, I've said that they should keep him.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they should not keep Daniel Jones. I don't really know how Daniel Jones is, like, we're going to look back and be like, this guy started in the NFL for six years.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's pretty remarkable because it's just, he has not changed, it feels like, at all. He had that one year, the first year with Brian Dable that he was kind of unlocked.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's every game feels like the same, one in 15 in primetime games. He needs to.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones actually might be a good quarterback for like the Carolina Panthers or the Jacksonville Jaguars who don't play primetime games.

Speaker 1 Like Like he got the worst marriage in being on the New York Giants who are guaranteed five primetime games a year and the guy can't win in primetime.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was sad after the game because I think Dable was saying in his post-game interview, I really liked the emotion.

Speaker 5 That was good progress that we saw from Daniel Jones showing emotion during this game.

Speaker 5 It's like if that's the highlight that you have talking about your quarterback who's been your starter for six years,

Speaker 5 saying, I like that he's starting to show emotion out there. That's bad.
And then, but maybe

Speaker 1 he was angry.

Speaker 5 This weekend, they're going to Germany.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, I thought that the Commanders this weekend.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's right. Commanders and then Germany

Speaker 5 is going to be next up against the Panthers. That might be Brian Dabel.
That might be Daniel Jones' best game of the season. Yeah.
The most, like the least prime time game possible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the least primetime game, especially against the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think the Giants should sell. And I don't know, if you're a Giants fan, going with like Daniel Jones has to just, it has to drive you nuts.
It has to, like, it just, the same week,

Speaker 1 week to week it's exactly the same i did uh i did the rab four todd bowls the other day uh i saw another one a giants fan big mac meal versus daniel jones uh big mac meal is 1269 uh can't play football can't read a defense makes people happy daniel jones is 160 million dollars can't play football can't read a defense makes people mad yeah so take the big mac meal big back's got that special sauce shout out uh g-men galaxy uh i think that the i think the steelers are actually very good though yeah i think what russell wilson's done on the offense, it's a combination of not having Matt Canada and now having a quarterback that can throw the ball to the middle of the field and that can actually trust his receivers to go make a play.

Speaker 5 I think that the Steelers are one of the best teams in the AFC.

Speaker 1 Does Russell Wilson, because I was wrong. I thought Russell Wilson was cooked.

Speaker 1 Is it Russell Wilson got a little humble pie or not to kick a man when he's down, but it just further proves that Nathaniel Hackett might have been so, so, so, so bad.

Speaker 5 That's also one way.

Speaker 1 It's one of the things that's like you can look at. I think you kind of felt the same way where it's like, Russell Wilson's cooked.
Like, he's old.

Speaker 1 He hasn't been good in a couple years, but now he, and it's not like he's prime Wrestle Wilson.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to get ahead of myself, but he clearly has something left in the tank, and he clearly adds an element to the Steelers' offense that was missing in George Pickett.

Speaker 5 I also think that Sean Payton and Russell Wilson was a marriage that's never going to work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't even count that year because that was like a million years. That was also a forced marriage.

Speaker 1 They didn't want each other.

Speaker 5 Never in a million years was that going to, was he going to look halfway decent working for Sean Payton? Like, Sean Payton hated everything about Russell Wilson. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Basically, Sean Payton's year one job was to just alienate Russell Wilson as much as possible and treat him like shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. So other things.

Speaker 1 I dealt with a very bad day on Monday.

Speaker 1 Here's how my Monday went, PFT. I'm sure you had a great day because you got to watch all the highlights.

Speaker 1 I thought I was over the Hail Mary, and then I took my two oldest kids out to dinner last night. And getting into the car, I was strapping them into their car seats.

Speaker 1 A guy parked a couple spots away from me, was like, hey, what's up, big cat? And then we spent probably 10 minutes in the parking lot talking about the Hail Mary and how much that sucked.

Speaker 1 And then it was basically my whole life of suck all in one because then at the end,

Speaker 1 I didn't catch this guy's name, but he was like, Yeah, my son is actually the highest rated quarterback in Illinois right now. He's committed to Oregon.

Speaker 1 And then I spent another five minutes trying to flip him to Wisconsin via Stella Blue deals. So it was, I don't know why, God just put that man there to have that conversation.
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 Oregon has a little bit. Phil Knight has a little more money than Stella Blue Coffee.

Speaker 5 Probably the uniform.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it was, it was like, I got in the car. My kids were just like, Daddy, let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
It's like, I'm hold on one sec. We're trying to get a quarterback here.

Speaker 5 We're trying to close a deal out here.

Speaker 1 But it was like everything summed up in one 10-minute random uh exchange with a stranger being like holy shit did that suck uh if your kids just knew how much happier daddy would be if that guy's son went to wisconsin they would be like no take your time yeah right yeah i should have just been like bucky will we'll come to your birthday party but i uh now that we've gone so yesterday sucked today

Speaker 1 is getting a little better because uh this might have been a silver lining in the fact that uh it seems like the bears players are finally turning on matt eberfloos which has not happened until this moment.

Speaker 1 And they are, we had Jalen Johnson come out, and he's like, if Tyreek Stevenson had been doing his job, there's a 0% chance that, because Tyreek Stevenson was supposed to be on Noah Brown, there's a 0% chance that works.

Speaker 1 He also said that they should have called a timeout because it was chaotic. That's something the head coach should work, or should figure out.

Speaker 1 Kevin Bayard was asked about the play before where Matt Eberflus just gave up 14 yards for free. He was like, yeah, I don't know why we were doing that.

Speaker 1 We did sideline defense at the end of the first half. I don't know why we didn't do it at the end of the game.
And then Cole Komet talked about self-discipline and guys holding each other accountable.

Speaker 1 And basically, all of this adds up to Matt Eberflus is to blame for this, which I came to that conclusion on Sunday night, but it's good to hear the players back it up.

Speaker 1 And then on top of all of that, we had a report just a couple hours ago that apparently Ben Johnson was interested in the Bears job last year, and that was the people are saying that's the one he wanted.

Speaker 1 So pack your bags, Matt Eberflues. Thank you, PFT.
You got the guy out of town.

Speaker 5 So I heard about Ben Johnson. I also heard that Ben Johnson wanted like $15 million a year.
Done.

Speaker 1 Sell blue coffee.

Speaker 5 Which if you're most franchises, I think if you're an owner that really wants to win and says that they want to win, you're like, okay, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 5 However, I think Ben Johnson might be the real deal. And if you're getting a rookie quarterback, that's the thing about bringing Caleb in and not switching up anything with the head coaching staff.

Speaker 5 And we said this, I've said this many times about the Bears. You double fucked yourself.
You got double fucked because, number one,

Speaker 5 you didn't bring in a new guy with your new quarterback, meaning that there's a good chance that he'll have to experience two coaching staffs in his first two years.

Speaker 5 And also double fucked is you weren't able to attract a great offensive coordinator because any offensive coordinator that would take that job would say, hey, if we don't do exceptionally well this first year, then that's going to be a one-year gig for me as an offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 The good news is, PFT, it's it's the Bears are just learning that they double fucked themselves. It's not like they've ever done this before.
Yeah. Oh, wait.

Speaker 1 They literally did the exact same thing when they drafted Mitch Shabiski with John Fox and then had Matt Nagy come in on year two, and then did the exact same thing with Justin Fields when they drafted Justin Fields with Matt Nagy and had Matt Eberflus come in year two.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They just keep doing it.

Speaker 5 It's a pattern. If you're going to bring in a new quarterback that's highly drafted, it's probably a good idea.
I would say an exception to that could be the Giants. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because I think that Dable is a good offensive coach.

Speaker 1 But it's just so as much as yesterday sucked because it was literally everyone wanted to talk about it and you could see it on someone's face when they saw me.

Speaker 1 I walked in the office at like 9.30 in the morning and Vasoli, I think he had been sitting there since like midnight with the camera ready to go. So it was just one of those torturous, torturous days.

Speaker 1 But the silver lining is it feels like.

Speaker 1 They're finally realizing this is the first time that there has been players calling out Matt Eberflus and players players being like, hey, that was a winnable game that we completely fucked up at the end.

Speaker 2 What is the path to getting him gone the quickest?

Speaker 1 I think anything besides an

Speaker 1 NFC championship run is probably gone.

Speaker 2 But you think he's going to be the whole season?

Speaker 1 I think he's going to be... The Bears don't fight.
They've never in the history. They don't do that.

Speaker 2 Greenie was going off.

Speaker 1 They wouldn't fire him in the middle of the season. Did you see the Greenie clip? No.
Well, what's it was some of the most

Speaker 2 heated language I've ever heard him say. By the way, that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen anything through in my interview.
It was.

Speaker 1 We had all the time, we had timeouts to spare.

Speaker 1 We gave up 15 yards for free to play before.

Speaker 5 The play before the Hail Mary was just dumb, and his explanation afterwards was even dumber.

Speaker 5 He was like, I don't really see much of a difference between throwing the ball 65 yards in the air and having him try to throw the ball 80 yards in the air. It's like, that's a pretty big difference.

Speaker 1 And that's where this feels like

Speaker 1 it's a significant shift in in the narrative because Matt Eberflus is a guy who will get up in front of

Speaker 1 the microphone after a game and just never take blame for anything and just be like, we got to look at the positives.

Speaker 1 Having the players say, hey, there were some negatives there, which was very obvious to literally everyone with eyes and a brain in their skull,

Speaker 1 finally feels like, okay,

Speaker 1 he's kind of losing it here.

Speaker 1 And it feels like the Bears locker room is sitting there being like, we are talented enough to be a six and one team.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 blowing that game at the end with the Hail Mary, the Colts game, and yet we're sitting here four and three wondering what the fuck has happened.

Speaker 1 I'm excited that maybe this is, they're going to make the right choice. But again, it's the Bears, so they probably won't.

Speaker 5 So Rex Ryan has made it very clear that he's willing to coach again.

Speaker 5 He's doing that.

Speaker 1 I'm not interested in it.

Speaker 5 Rex is doing that big time.

Speaker 5 He's put his name on a lot of people's desks. He would coach the Jets, he said.
He would coach the Bears.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the play before the play was very bad.

Speaker 5 I'm going to use the word malpractice. I think it's coaching malpractice.

Speaker 5 And then the players after, I think it was either yesterday, maybe this morning, some of the players are saying, like, we want to be coached harder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's okay if you coach us. That's basically what Cole Komet said.

Speaker 5 It's okay if you coach us harder because we need that.

Speaker 5 I don't know what they're going to do with the cornerback situation because

Speaker 5 that would be a good cut. That would be a good.
Stevenson's good, though.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 5 But like a real football guy coach would just be like, don't even come in.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can cut him, especially because we have some injuries there. But

Speaker 1 he's a good player. He made a very, very bad mistake.
I think all the other players are going to hold him accountable.

Speaker 1 The problem is, I don't think Matt Fieberfool is holding him accountable, and that's where the divide comes from.

Speaker 1 And it is like them talking about it after Jalen Johnson said, he's like, yeah, his responsibility was Noah Brown. And that's why that happened.

Speaker 1 And he instead ran into the scrum and hit the ball in the air. So it's just, it's crazy.

Speaker 5 But Kat, do you think that was a good throw or a bad throw that Jaden had on the Hail Mary? I think it was a good throw. Okay, interesting.
Because Max and I had a deep conversation about that.

Speaker 5 And there was an unfortunate clip that got resurfaced. So during Sunday night's show, Max made the point like any quarterback in the NFL can make that throw.

Speaker 5 And it just so happens there was a quarterback that tried to make that throw in the Super Bowl on the very last play of the game. And I believe he threw the ball about 46 yards in the air.

Speaker 1 And then that quarterback stepped on his foot.

Speaker 5 That quarterback was Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 It was a good throw. It was short, but it was a good throw.
A good spiral. Good spiral.

Speaker 7 I have a question for you.

Speaker 2 If Jalen Hurts. What Hail Mary isn't lucky.
Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 They all are.

Speaker 2 But you're saying that it's like a...

Speaker 1 Hey, I agree with this.

Speaker 5 I agree with this.

Speaker 5 It's not like you can be a great Hail Mary quarterback. I mean, some are a little bit better.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, maybe.

Speaker 5 Some are a little bit better than others, but a Hail Mary is a very lucky play. But that entire drive that led up to the Hail Mary, he made a few big passes that came up there.

Speaker 1 No, that was only one pass on on that drive.

Speaker 5 I think there were two.

Speaker 1 The one that was wide open.

Speaker 5 I think there were two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that wasn't. I don't want to get it back in the weeds, but that.

Speaker 5 I'm pretty sure that there was.

Speaker 1 But they literally let him. That was the whole Matt Eberflus thing.

Speaker 7 He had one throw to start the drive, and he threw it on his fucking feet.

Speaker 5 I thought that he had two completions on that drive before the Hail Mary.

Speaker 1 I think he did. I mean, he might have, but one of them was literally

Speaker 1 Matt Eberflus is a fucking moron.

Speaker 5 Yes, and I'm not saying that that means that Jaden's an awesome quarterback, is that he threw a Hail Mary.

Speaker 5 Every quarterback can try to throw the ball that far, and a lot of them, you know, like it's a crap shoot at the end. It was still a good play.

Speaker 5 Everything that happened on that play before he made the throw, scrambling around the pocket and getting himself in good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should have rushed more. It was stupid.

Speaker 5 I mean, he did what he had to do, and it was a great play, but I'm not saying that's a metric of him.

Speaker 1 Two completions, one was the one that they were, or he had one incompletion,

Speaker 1 then he completed one to Zach Hurts, then the one that was just given to you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so he had two completions and then the Hail Mary on that drive.

Speaker 2 A good quarterback puts their team in a spot where they can get lucky. Right.
Jalen Hurts' throw, there was no chance.

Speaker 5 Jason Kelsey stepped on his foot.

Speaker 1 Just saying.

Speaker 5 That's part of moving around in the pockets.

Speaker 7 That's 350 yards and three touchdowns against Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl in that game. How is that not putting him in a good situational win?

Speaker 7 He threw an absolute dime on the drive before to tie the game up, and then fucking Juju Smith Schuster gets away with a stupid fucking holding call. That's putting yourself in a position to win, Hank.

Speaker 1 Listen, listen, Max is right.

Speaker 2 I didn't say putting, I said, give them the Hail Mary.

Speaker 7 Put in a situation to win.

Speaker 1 No, give him a chance.

Speaker 2 Give him a chance to get lucky.

Speaker 5 Max is right. Jalen Hurts had a great game, except for that fumble, and he had a great season that year.
I'm not saying that Jaden is on that level that Jalen played that year.

Speaker 5 I'm just saying, let's not take away from the fact. Higher level? No, I'm not saying that yet.

Speaker 5 Let's not take away from the fact he had a good drive to get them into position, and then he had a good play

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 5 he scrambled around the pocket and then threw a great ball for a Hail Mary. Let's not take anything away from this young man, Max.

Speaker 1 You're the one who brought this up.

Speaker 5 Well, because you brought it up on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 I have a question for you. If Jaden Daniels throws an interception on that Hail Mary, are you claiming that? That's a crap shoot.

Speaker 5 Yeah. That plays a crap shoot.
Yeah, that interception doesn't count.

Speaker 5 At the end of the season, I will make sure to go back and tell everyone he actually had one less interception than you think he did.

Speaker 1 I hated that game. That game sucked because it was also...

Speaker 1 It was just the Bears.

Speaker 1 I've watched that game a million times. The Bears are in an offensive slog and can't do anything.

Speaker 1 And then Caleb Williams got them out of it, and it was a game they should never have won that they were going to somehow win. And,

Speaker 1 yeah, it sucked.

Speaker 5 I also, after watching it again, Dan Quinn tried to give that game away, too. Dan Quinn tried very, very hard with not going for it on like fourth and inches

Speaker 5 and giving the Bears the ball back and then just absolutely killing whatever time we had left.

Speaker 5 I would much rather the Bears scored with two minutes, two and a half minutes left on the clock than with 25 seconds. And who cares if you give the ball up in your own territory at that point?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this sucks.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 1 The Bears have to win against the Cardinals. That's the thing is they have no margin for error anymore.

Speaker 1 And I'm just, again, the silver lining in all of this is Matt Eberflus is being exposed for what we all knew, but the vibes were high enough that no one was going to speak out against him in the Bears locker room.

Speaker 1 And now that you have a loss like that that is so inexcusable with how it went down, he's getting exposed. And that's, I think, a good thing.

Speaker 5 Did you see the

Speaker 5 Ben Johnson? Hit me up. Was it 9-9 at halftime last night? Two great offenses going at it, 39 football.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 kicking field goals.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was fantastic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Giants and Steelers known for their offenses.

Speaker 5 Those great offenses. Yeah.
Moving the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Moving the ball.
Between the 20s. Kicking field goals.
It's the way to go.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Memes, real quick. I have two things for memes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the Jets fan that retired.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see this? This was from Igor 2H AHL, depressed Jets fan.

Speaker 1 He said, Due to recent struggles and constant pain suffered from the New York Jets, I've ultimately decided that I'm going to step away from the game I have once loved.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure when I'll be back, but I can no longer endure the constant torture and pain the New York Jets give me.

Speaker 5 Spend more time with the family.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did a for real retirement. And

Speaker 1 he did this on Monday. I think he should have waited a day because I don't know if you guys saw, but the Jets have their solution to fix the season, changing their uniforms again.
Oh, I like that.

Speaker 1 They're going the all-blacks for Halloween. So memes, you're kind of back.

Speaker 1 I don't think we're back.

Speaker 8 I think we're going to get smoked on Thursday and then everybody's going to get traded on Friday.

Speaker 1 Everyone's going to get traded? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Who's going to get traded? Man.

Speaker 1 Devontae? Everyone. Everyone? Everyone.
Literally? Literally everyone. Literally every person.
Every player.

Speaker 5 I was thinking about

Speaker 5 the whole don't rent an old quarterback to try to make your team good and put Super Bowl aspirations on them. I was thinking about that.

Speaker 5 The stats actually show that maybe you should try to rent an old-ass quarterback.

Speaker 5 If you don't have a top two quarterback of all time like Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady with the Patriots, if you look back at the last 10 years, it's happened three times.

Speaker 5 Peyton Manning, Tom Brady with the Bucs, and Matt Stafford.

Speaker 1 Peyton Manning's a little bit of a different one just because

Speaker 1 he won the Super Bowl no longer being Peyton Manning. But yes,

Speaker 1 his best season was before the Super Bowl season. Yeah, the defense won that Super Bowl.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 5 the Jets would have been happy having their great defense that they had, and then Aaron Rodgers playing like average to slightly above. Correct.

Speaker 1 That was the plan.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so it's actually not.

Speaker 1 His Achilles blew up. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's actually not that stupid of an idea, but when it doesn't work, it looks really, really dumb.

Speaker 1 It looks, yeah. If it doesn't work, it's Cam Newton on the Patriots or Matt Ryan on the Colts.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Memes,

Speaker 5 you care to explain this meme that you just posted? I saw you pull it up when you were scrolling Twitter over there, telling my kids this is Big Cat, Max, and PFT.

Speaker 5 And it's

Speaker 1 AJ, Big Justice,

Speaker 5 and The Rizzler. I love it.
So who's who?

Speaker 1 I think it's in order, right?

Speaker 5 Yep, left or right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm Big Justice. Max is AJ.
And then PFT would be the Rizzler.

Speaker 5 I'm the Rizzler.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 7 You make out like a bandit there, PFT.

Speaker 1 Why are are you?

Speaker 1 The Rizzler's the best. You're the Rizzler.

Speaker 5 The Rizzler is the best.

Speaker 1 I feel like the whole squad won when they went on Fallon. He's just, Whizzler's got the.
He's just got all the sweat.

Speaker 5 I actually, I dress pretty similar to the Rizzler.

Speaker 1 Why isn't that one on the main?

Speaker 5 I think you have those shoes. I think I do, too.

Speaker 1 Post that one on the main. All right.
That's a great meme.

Speaker 2 I also have a. I've come all the way around on those guys, by the way.

Speaker 1 How could you...

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. The Rizzler is the best.

Speaker 2 They just do it. Yeah.
They just beat you in a submission with the same video, and then eventually you're like, all right, the song is a good thing.

Speaker 1 Is it going to be the same video? Yep. Yep.
Just a couple different characters. And the Rizzler's going to do the thing where he does his chin.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're the best.

Speaker 1 I've been a Costco guy from day one.

Speaker 2 That's bad.

Speaker 5 Was that bad? Why was that bad?

Speaker 2 You got to be like mad.

Speaker 1 Okay. You got to kind of furrow your brow.

Speaker 1 You got to furrow your brow a little. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a very funny picture. And a very funny.
Yeah. The boys, that was a team win having those guys on Fallon.

Speaker 5 The Rizzler likes the chicken bakes.

Speaker 1 The Rizzler's not as much of a Costco guy as he's just in the cinematic universe, but he also is kind of the star. Got it.

Speaker 1 He does a trick on his bike, no hands.

Speaker 5 I can't do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He actually just lifts him up for like a split second. It's fucking awesome.
I have a question about the Jets. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Memes sparked my attention when he talked about being a seller.

Speaker 7 In any any sport, has there ever been a team that was the biggest buyer and the biggest seller in the same season?

Speaker 5 I'm sure it's happened, yeah.

Speaker 1 The Jets are basically giving

Speaker 7 within the trade deadline period.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the Jets are giving the dream team, Eagles, the Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Lakers. That's the vibes.

Speaker 1 No one's going to stop them.

Speaker 2 Didn't the Padres kind of do that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Padres did that. Yeah, where it's like on paper, this is the greatest team ever assembled.
And then they started playing games. It's like, whoops.

Speaker 5 Trying to think who else could have done it in the NBA.

Speaker 2 People in the NFL.

Speaker 2 This is going to be one of those things that tomorrow morning people.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if I had like 10 minutes to think about it.

Speaker 5 I don't know about the NFL, though.

Speaker 7 Because in-season, Devontae Adams is definitely the biggest buy-in move of the year.

Speaker 5 It's a big buy-in move, yeah. So with the Eagles' dream team, what was that? That was all before this.
Yeah, it was before the season.

Speaker 5 Vince Young said that as the backup quarterback before the season even started.

Speaker 2 There's just not a lot. There's not teams that load up in the the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's hard to load up in the NFL.

Speaker 2 In the NBA and MLB, teams will get stacked teams. Yeah, the NFL, they'll pick up

Speaker 2 one big signing. What teams are known

Speaker 5 for winning the off-season Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 Now, this is going to be fun. That was the title of the Lakers Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 2 Famous Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 5 It was fun. It was fun.
For us.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's hard.
I mean, I don't know if the Jets are going to be full sellers, are they? I mean, they do have a shitload of holes. What if they win on Thursday?

Speaker 8 I mean, if they win on Thursday, then

Speaker 1 that's the biggest trap. We're not going to win.
We're not going to win. It's the biggest trap line of all time.
But Stephon Diggs and Nico are out.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but Joe Mixon is going to run for 200 yards.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I forgot about Joe Mixon.

Speaker 1 But what if Aaron Rodgers does something crazy?

Speaker 1 That would be sick. Yeah.
I mean, I don't think. No, no, I'm not going to get it.

Speaker 5 Let me see the uniforms. Pull them up.

Speaker 1 All black on Halloween night.

Speaker 5 We could be back, depending on what uniforms these are.

Speaker 1 All black on Halloween night. How black are they? We wear the stealth black.
Thursday night.

Speaker 5 I liked stealth black.

Speaker 1 Ah, you might be back. They're off the radar.
You might be back.

Speaker 5 This is like Aaron Rodgers is wearing a darkness retreat.

Speaker 1 Oh, you might be back. And who do you have next after you get a mini-buy after playing Thursday night football? And then the Cardinals? Wait, wait, memes, say that.
And then the Colts memes?

Speaker 5 Stay on that picture right there because they're showing the difference between the old black uniforms and the new black uniforms. They're the same memes.

Speaker 1 No, there's not two. No, no, no, no.
There's two lines. There's two lines.

Speaker 1 Memes, I'm looking at the schedule right now. If we're just talking about the peak Jets on paper, they might run the table.

Speaker 1 We've got to win Thursday.

Speaker 5 They're the same uniform.

Speaker 1 They're not.

Speaker 1 The Jets love doing this. They're just fixing everything with uniforms.

Speaker 5 No, this on Halloween, I... I could see the Jets winning this game.

Speaker 1 I fuck around with this, yeah. Should we talk a little college football? Yeah.
Let's talk a little college football.

Speaker 1 So we're getting into November. We have some awesome stories of undefeated teams.
Maybe one of the best stories is BYU and BYU, their quarterback.

Speaker 5 When he decided to commit, did he have like different colored yarmulas on the table?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's a crazy story.
There's three Jewish

Speaker 1 students at BYU, and he's one of them. That's awesome.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the BYU story is incredible. We got some teams lurking that were dead, like Clemson, you know, off the week.

Speaker 1 Clemson and Texas A ⁇ M are the two biggest, like, hey, this is a long season because what Texas A ⁇ M did to LSU in the second half on Saturday night was incredible.

Speaker 1 They had Nussmeier seeing straight-up ghosts. Like, he looked like he was going to cry.

Speaker 5 Well, that's what you get at A ⁇ M. You're always going to have a great defensive line.
You're going to have guys that can get after the quarterback.

Speaker 5 And then making the quarterback switch was a ballsy call, too. And it's definitely the right call for A ⁇ M.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's going to be a full switch. You don't think so? No.

Speaker 5 Who's their offensive coordinator again?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to be a full switch because

Speaker 1 I think they should do. If AM is smart, they do literally a

Speaker 1 two-quarterback situation, which can work in college football. Like, they're playing South Carolina next week or this week.
South Carolina has one of the best defensive lines in college football.

Speaker 1 South Carolina could probably bottle up Reed. South Carolina's secondary is not the best.
So Wegman could probably carve them up.

Speaker 1 Like, it could be a situation that they do two quarterbacks and it works.

Speaker 5 That's right. It's Colin Klein.
Yeah. I knew that.
So Colin Klein.

Speaker 5 I think he likes calling offenses for guys that remind him of his skill set.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I actually think they might, and I could be way wrong. We could, you know, Saturday comes around and it's just like they have one starter and that's it.

Speaker 5 But I think there's a chance they might go game to game, drive to drive with both their quarterbacks because what marcel reed did in the second half was incredible uh he's not like an incredible passer and then so when you play teams that don't have great secondaries you just switch it up yeah so after the game mike elko i loved his comments after the game so now we're playing a big guessing game on who he was talking about because it's like a litmus test which way did you see this go when he said uh about the culture at a m this is a real program it's not fake it's not a politician running this program brian kelly

Speaker 5 i thought

Speaker 5 I thought Brian Kelly.

Speaker 1 Ben Jimbo.

Speaker 5 I thought Brian Kelly immediately.

Speaker 1 He did the double. I think not a politician running this program is Brian Kelly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then talking fast and BSing everybody is Jimbo.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because Brian Kelly's not a fast talker. No.
But he is a politician talking talker.

Speaker 1 And Jimbo is BSing everybody.

Speaker 5 Isn't Brian Kelly's dad like a congressperson or something? Yeah. Yeah, so I think that was at Brian Kelly, the BSing everybody.

Speaker 5 Then you have to come out and clarify that he wasn't talking about anybody. He was just talking about his program.

Speaker 1 It's a great reminder, though, for Tex A ⁇ M, who did the, let's get Jimbo Fisher and pay him a million, $100 million, and that will solve everything.

Speaker 1 Sometimes in college football, Mike Elko was not the sexy hire. He was a Duke.

Speaker 1 He's just a very good, competent, like

Speaker 1 nuts and bolts football coach. Solid B-cups.
That's what he does.

Speaker 1 He's going to make sure that your team is playing at a level that doesn't dip and is not talking about recruiting class and all that.

Speaker 1 And it's a great reminder that sometimes just hire the the best football coach. And Mike Elko is a fucking great football coach.

Speaker 1 And Texas AM, after their week one loss, and everyone's like, oh man, this is going to work out, are undefeated in the SEC schedule.

Speaker 1 Now they do have, again, this South Carolina game is not, like, people will look at it and say, Texas A ⁇ M ranked, South Carolina not ranked, ooh, they'll kill him.

Speaker 1 South Carolina is not to be looked past.

Speaker 1 And then they also finish the season with Texas, but they're in the driver's seat where they control their own destiny, not only to go to the SEC championship game, but the college football playoff.

Speaker 1 And so is Notre Dame, which Notre Dame is now benefiting from Texas A ⁇ M being awesome. Yeah.
Because their win week one looks even better.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so it also goes to show you what a great thing it is to have a bunch of people who are absurdly wealth because they struck it rich in a particular industry controlling your program. Because

Speaker 5 the Texas oil people use their money to be able to afford Jimbo Fisher's, what, $70 million buyout? Yeah. No other university would do that, but Texas A ⁇ M, they're like, we got fuck you money.

Speaker 5 We might as well say fuck you to somebody. What's the point of having it if you're not going to use it? And so they were able to buy him out.

Speaker 5 It goes to show you that if the nerds that graduate from Stanford that got really rich on crypto, if they cared 1% about football,

Speaker 5 which they don't, Stanford would be a powerhouse. Yeah.
Just put all your money into just having a good football team. That's what you should be doing with that money.

Speaker 1 Bring Harbaugh back.

Speaker 5 It's a, yeah, it was, it turns out a great firing if you can afford it. And Elko, I like Elko.

Speaker 5 I don't know if he's playing the game of saying something and then being like, oh, sucks, I didn't mean what you guys all thought that because it felt pointed at the time.

Speaker 5 Oh, it definitely pointed out. I was thinking about Brian Kelly trying to recruit Wegman in the transfer portal and trying to figure out what accent he should use to talk to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it was definitely a direct shot, but Mike Elko is a good football coach who has his team playing good football, and it was, uh, it's just, it goes back to this season being a lot of fun because you have, it feels like more parody.

Speaker 1 And then the other teams I was going to mention is Indiana just keeps rolling everyone. They just, that was, uh, um, they, they, that scene in Bloomington is just on fire.

Speaker 1 Uh, they had game day this week, and like, I don't know if you guys saw the pick six. It was one of the coolest camera shots I've ever seen where the, the cameraman zoomed out at the perfect time.

Speaker 1 And so, like, cause they had a pick six early in the game where the cornerback

Speaker 1 intercepted it, and it was so clear that there was no one close.

Speaker 1 So, as he's running, like, across the 30, the cameraman zoomed out, and it was just this packed crowd that looked just absolutely on fire. And it was like, this is why college football rocks.

Speaker 1 But Indiana, they, I mean, Michigan State's going to be not, you can't, it's not a cakewalk going to East Lansing because they've been frisky this year.

Speaker 1 And then you have a big date against Ohio State, who Ohio State looks very human with some of their injuries on the offensive line. They can't run.

Speaker 1 I mean, they lost their left tackle

Speaker 1 for the season, and they look, and I think his backup got hurt too during the game. They look mortal.

Speaker 5 I think Penn State.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, Penn State has a quarterback controversy. So, Max,

Speaker 1 how'd you like Madison?

Speaker 7 Madison Rock loved the people of Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 I mean, it is. Do the people of Wisconsin like you?

Speaker 7 They're very friendly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Much friendlier than they should be.

Speaker 1 But why?

Speaker 5 I heard there were rumors that Max doesn't like Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 No. No, he didn't like Jump Around because they didn't let him jump.

Speaker 7 No, that's not true. I thought Jump Around was a little underwhelming.
I was excited for Jump Around.

Speaker 1 Because they didn't let him jump. That's incorrect.

Speaker 1 Did you go on State Street?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I went on streets.

Speaker 1 I don't know. With a lot of bars.

Speaker 7 There's a lot. Yes, I went on a street that had a lot of bars.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've been to Madison before, though. It is the perfect college town in terms of setup.
Like the bars and everything, and it's just all right there.

Speaker 7 There's a bunch of bars that are just like in parking lots.

Speaker 1 That's right by the stadium, yeah.

Speaker 5 I got a question. Why do they call it Camp Randall?

Speaker 1 It was a Civil War camp, I want to believe. For

Speaker 1 A stadium?

Speaker 1 I hope I have that right, but I'm pretty sure I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I believe it was a place where they trained people during the Civil War. Yeah.

Speaker 5 The satellite. Nailed it.

Speaker 1 Let's go. That would have been embarrassing, but I didn't get it.
It was the stadium lies on the grounds of Camp Randall, a Union Army training camp during the Civil War.

Speaker 1 Fuck yes. This brain still got it a little bit.
Yeah, that was going to suck if I was just way off.

Speaker 5 Did the monkey bars out there? The ropes and the walls.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it was, yeah, Penn State. Look,

Speaker 1 I was thinking we had a chance to

Speaker 1 have an upset there, and then that pick six. I really do think the Badgers potentially could have just punted and played defense for the rest of the game.

Speaker 5 Then the pick six happened, and it was like, that's it.

Speaker 1 It's over. There's just no way you can come back from that.
We're not an offense that can do that. And that's all, yeah.

Speaker 7 And that's also how every Penn State game goes: they go down big in the first half, and then the second half, they just turn it on, and then they beat the shit out of teams in the second half.

Speaker 5 Max, am I crazy to think that Penn State could beat Ohio State?

Speaker 7 They definitely can. I think it's only

Speaker 1 four points, right?

Speaker 5 I like them in that game.

Speaker 1 Boom. Yeah, are we going to start Bo Perbula?

Speaker 7 I think Drew Aller is going to be a game-time decision, which makes me think that he's probably going to play.

Speaker 1 But that's another one.

Speaker 1 Why not have some packages in? Because it's not like,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be crazy and be like, oh, Wisconsin wins that game with Drew Aller in.

Speaker 1 But it was very clear that when Bo Perbula came in, the defense wasn't ready for the type of quarterback he was that was different than Drew Aller.

Speaker 7 Bo Probula is exactly Trace McStorley. They wear the same number.
They look the same. He has the exact same game.
He's very mobile.

Speaker 7 He's like a home run hitter. And Drew Aller is like a pocket passer, like NFL style quarterback.

Speaker 7 So they do have that sort of, like you said, yin and yang of kind of you can't, and they, Bo Probula will play a couple plays a game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I liked what I saw. I was like, this kid has got something.

Speaker 1 There's something about a college quarterback who's like, you watch him and you're like, he's probably not an NFL quarterback, but he's a peak college quarterback.

Speaker 5 You know?

Speaker 7 Yeah. So I think that

Speaker 7 they'll play Aller, but I think Bo

Speaker 7 will also get some packages in that game.

Speaker 1 Got it. So that's a big game.
And then we like SMU Pitt, but Pitt is undefeated. SMU only has one loss against BYU.
There's so many games that are, it just, there's a lot of teams.

Speaker 1 It's all going to shake out, but

Speaker 1 there's great parody.

Speaker 5 We have a doomsday scenario that's loading in the SEC, though. What's that? And only two things have to happen.
So

Speaker 5 I was looking at this calculator online. Like, it's an SEC calculator for the championship game.
And the doomsday scenario, it all hinges on LSU, Alabama.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 If LSU beats Alabama, I think they're both coming off buzz. If LSU beats the tide and the good teams stay good, Texas could then fuck things up if they beat A ⁇ M

Speaker 5 in their game. If that happened, I think this is M Red's

Speaker 5 college football SEC calculator that I looked on. If those two things happen, LSU wins against Alabama and Texas beats A ⁇ M, it would be LSU and Texas A ⁇ M in the SEC championship game.

Speaker 5 It would not be

Speaker 5 Texas. It would not be Georgia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they do, a lot of these tiebreakers are your strength of schedule.

Speaker 5 It has to do with strength of schedule, and they try to do a round-robin thing, but if you don't all play each other, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 And the SEC, because it's so big now, they don't all play each other.

Speaker 5 And having, in that event, it would be LSU and Texas in the SEC championship, and then you would have Georgia playing a home game round one of the college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 There's another one like that in the Big Ten. It's essentially if Indiana, if

Speaker 1 Ohio State beats Penn State and Indiana beats, or in Ohio State beats Indiana, I think that it would be Ohio State, Indiana, Penn State,

Speaker 1 and I guess Oregon would have to lose a game, but they would all have one loss and Oregon would not make it to the Big Ten championship.

Speaker 1 It would be like Ohio State and Penn State, even though Oregon beat Ohio State.

Speaker 5 I love doomsday scenarios.

Speaker 5 And 90% of the time, they don't happen. They don't even come close to happening.
But I like looking at

Speaker 5 how chaotic could my future be. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Memes also knows another.

Speaker 1 There's another Big Ten scenario.

Speaker 5 All right, give give me a doomsday. So send me all your doomsday scenarios, by the way.

Speaker 1 Or there's a possibility of Oregon, Indiana, and Penn State going undefeated.

Speaker 8 Penn State has to beat Ohio State by more than one, and Indiana has to beat Ohio State by more than one.

Speaker 8 And then Indiana and Penn State would play each other in the Big Ten championship, and Oregon would be left out.

Speaker 1 Why would Oregon be left out?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I think the tiebreakers

Speaker 1 strengthen the schedule.

Speaker 8 Same opponents.

Speaker 1 Oh, is that the first tiebreaker?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, it's all without the divisions anymore in any of these conferences. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 And also, every conference is different the way that they write it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I'm excited for...

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. None of these ever happen.
So it's head-to-head.

Speaker 1 Record against all common conference opponents, which would be the same because they would all be undefeated. And record against mutual conference opponents with best record.
We're all undefeated.

Speaker 1 Big 10 winning percentage of conference opponents. So

Speaker 1 I don't know if Indiana would, I think it would maybe be Oregon Penn State in that.

Speaker 1 Because I think Indiana's strength of schedule is not that great.

Speaker 5 It's just put up to a fan vote.

Speaker 2 I have a question. Yeah.
And this could be very off base because I fell down a, I don't know how I ended up in an Iowa State pro rabbit hole, but Iowa State's very good. It was a fair question.

Speaker 2 How does Notre Dame lose at home to NIU? Yeah. And they're ranked higher than Iowa State.

Speaker 5 And then NIU loses to Ball State.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 It's a fair.

Speaker 2 Again, I could have been, I was very, in a very biased thread, but in my head, I was like, yeah, that makes no sense.

Speaker 2 Does losing at NIU at home mean nothing?

Speaker 1 I think it's. So I think a lot of it is the win against Texas A ⁇ M.
And then they beat Navy, who they killed.

Speaker 1 I saw that one coming.

Speaker 1 I had some Navy fans mad at me because I suggested that their defense wasn't very good.

Speaker 1 And then...

Speaker 2 It was 14-0 with one second in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they did turn the ball over a bunch.

Speaker 1 But I think that probably has more to do with Texas A ⁇ M having their, or sorry, Notre Dame having their best win is a road win against Texas A ⁇ M. And

Speaker 1 Iowa State's best win is at Iowa, who I don't believe is ranked anymore.

Speaker 5 So Brian Kelly's out there still improving Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm on your side. Iowa State should be ranked higher.

Speaker 1 I always think that

Speaker 1 at least in the power five schools, if you're undefeated, it should just be all the undefeated teams, then the one-loss teams.

Speaker 1 that you play the games for a reason especially if you're one loss that's a bad loss that's the florida state thing last year where it's like yeah if you win all your games it should work out but yeah iowa state's very good and they hopefully will get into the playoff uh but the last thing we should talk about um does anyone know if uh a player in college football has won offensive and defensive player of the week in the same season?

Speaker 5 Is that even possible? You mean like all time?

Speaker 1 Yeah, in the same season. They've won offensive player of the week, and then another week they won defensive player of the week.

Speaker 5 I'm going back. Charles Woodson was pretty good.
He might have done it, but I mean, he was an outlier because he's the kind of guy that would win the highest match.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Max.

Speaker 1 I think that guy from Colorado did it, right? Oh, Travis Hunter. He won offensive player this week, and he had won defensive player earlier this season.
Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Wait, he won offensive player of the year? Yeah. Wait, offensive player of the week this week and defensive player of the week earlier in the season.

Speaker 5 Conan O'Brien meme. Travis Hunter.
You mean the cornerback?

Speaker 1 I mean the wide receiver. Whoa.
Holy shit. Yeah, we're back, boys.
We're all the way back.

Speaker 5 Well, he probably plays like, he probably plays like defensive tackle, and then he's probably a fullback.

Speaker 1 He's a big

Speaker 1 occasionally, right? No, he's a wide receiver, and he had over 100 yards receiving and two touchdowns. Then had four pass breakups and played 140 snaps.

Speaker 5 And he's also the best cornerback in college.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And I'm not going to do the negative campaign. I'm not going to talk about that guy.
Yeah, I'm not going to do a negative campaign of trying to

Speaker 1 talk down. We're not doing negative campaigns against anyone else.

Speaker 1 Every campaign says I wouldn't say like Cam Ward played a hapless Florida State team and was okay, but not like, you know, eight touchdowns.

Speaker 5 A crying Cam Ward.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't go out there and say that, you know, Ashton Genty, everyone keeps talking about Barry Sanders' record. Look up how many games Barry Sanders played.
He played 11.

Speaker 1 Ashton Genty's about to play 13.

Speaker 5 You're talking about crooked Ashton?

Speaker 1 I'm talking about 3.9 yards per carry, Ashton, against UNLV. I'm not doing negative campaigns.
You're right. I had no idea.
I had no idea, Max. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 I think if you're just basing this off who's the best football player, that's a criteria, right? Yeah. Who's the best football player in the country? Yeah.
I don't think that it's up for debate.

Speaker 1 I do like a couple,

Speaker 1 I'll still get a couple AWLs being like, you're only saying this because you bet on them.

Speaker 1 Shit. You know what? You know what?

Speaker 5 Since it's actually a campaign, I bet you Travis Hunter would go on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Go on Joe.

Speaker 5 Get him on. Talk to Joe.
Joe would talk to you. Get the word out there.
Travis Hunter for Heisman.

Speaker 1 And Colorado is, I know people, there's a lot of people out there who didn't like Deion, and last year was probably a little too much, too fast in terms of, you know, the hype and then them not being a good team.

Speaker 1 They are bowl eligible for the first time in forever. They're 6-2, and they have some winnable games down the stretch, and they're a good football team.

Speaker 5 And people were bearing them earlier.

Speaker 1 Won the Nebraska game, which doesn't look great in retrospect.

Speaker 5 Things happen sometimes.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes should be upset at Dylan Rayola at this point.

Speaker 5 Well, maybe that's why Patrick Mahomes is starting to throw more interceptions. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's why Dylan Rayola throwing interceptions.

Speaker 5 It's because he sees Patrick.

Speaker 1 He saw and he's just like my hero. This is how you win football games.

Speaker 5 Do we think the wheels are coming off at USC?

Speaker 5 They're banning media from practice. I think this is a story that only the media cares about.
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 You can't really get rid of Lincoln Riley, but he is

Speaker 1 his name does rhyme with stinking. Yeah.
And that's, you can't just ignore that part. Yeah.
Stinkin' Riley.

Speaker 1 Next week we have Maxion finally back. So excited.
That's going to be the big news next Tuesday night. Maxion's back.

Speaker 5 And we get, this is maybe our last sports Equinox night of the year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I love Equinoxes.

Speaker 1 They're the best.

Speaker 1 What? It's not.

Speaker 5 It's not.

Speaker 1 Well, we. There's no football.
No, there's football.

Speaker 1 There's a conference USA, dude. Oh.

Speaker 1 Come on. Yeah.
They've been playing on Tuesday nights. You don't lose every conference USA game ever.

Speaker 2 All right, so who's the pick?

Speaker 1 Sam Houston. All right.

Speaker 5 Hank doesn't know equal.

Speaker 1 I've lost every conference U.S. game every single night, every single week.
I don't know why. I don't even, why I'm betting on Kennesaw State and Sam Houston and Louisiana Tech.

Speaker 1 They put it on TV and I watch it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't even know? Come on. What are you laughing about, Max?

Speaker 1 The way he said that?

Speaker 1 The way you said that was funny. What? I just, I do.
And it's like, there's something extra just like sick and perverted about being like, oh, why are you upset? I bet on Louisiana Tech.

Speaker 1 Can you name one player on that team? No. Oh, I bet Sam Houston State, the Bearcats.

Speaker 1 It's a K instead of a C.

Speaker 5 I was watching some of the bad beats from SVP last night. Some of the schools that they show, how do they even get those tickets that are sent? Like, who is watching the Fordham game? Everywhere.

Speaker 5 And there's some guys are everywhere. Those shitty Tuesday, Thursday night games that you get sometimes where the cameras are like on the moon, basically like in zone camera.

Speaker 5 They're taping them from a blimp as they float above these games. But people are out there betting on them.

Speaker 1 God bless America. Shout out, DraftKings.

Speaker 1 Ebo, our guy, Ebo, who people might not know, but he's one of our colleagues here. Great dude.

Speaker 1 JMU. Sent me a JMU.
He sent me an FCS game on Saturday morning, and I personally moved the line by two points. That's good.
It also was the worst pick ever, and he's a scumbag.

Speaker 7 And I've been telling him all week he's a scumbag because he specifically texted people saying, this is my FCS today.

Speaker 1 He's like, he wasn't even close. He sexted all of us.
He wasn't even close. You can't even watch it.

Speaker 5 He's probably doing that, trying to move the line so he can take the other side. He might have.

Speaker 1 He might have said that. He didn't trap me.

Speaker 7 We said next time Big Cat isn't allowed to take it until everyone else does.

Speaker 5 Yeah. He's a smart guy.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do Hot Sea Cool Throw. And then we got Paolo Bancaro on the show in studio.

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Speaker 2 My hot seat is Doc Rivers.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh, yeah. Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 They lost last night to the Celtics. They are 1-3 on the season, 18-22 in the Doc Rivers era.

Speaker 2 And Giannis

Speaker 2 was talking in the post-game and said, right now we don't have an identity. How are we going to win the game? Are we going to defend for 48 minutes? Are we going to move the ball for 48 minutes?

Speaker 2 Are we going to attack? We've got to find an identity. We don't have that right now.

Speaker 1 Ooh, no identity is bad.

Speaker 2 No identity is bad.

Speaker 5 That seems like that's a coaching thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I saw the clip that you posted, Hank, with Doc Rivers just bent over, assuming the spikely half court position after it was Peyton Pritchard. He had an

Speaker 5 end of quarter three-pointer. And Doc, you could tell he's like, we worked on this.

Speaker 2 But he said it after the game. He's like, I circled.
And Peyton Pritchard had like 28 points. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he said after the game, he's like, I had Peyton Pritchard circled. Like, they were keyed in on him before the game, and he still went off.
Probably need Pat Bepp.

Speaker 1 Bring him back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know. It seems like there's Dame Lillard and Giannis.
That's not working.

Speaker 1 No, just never saw that coming.

Speaker 5 I mean, you see that block that Derrick White had? That was... Is that an identity problem for the Milwaukee Bucks? No, it's just Derek White.

Speaker 5 If you're Giannis getting rejected at the rim by Derek White.

Speaker 2 I mean, Derek White, defensive player of of the year, potentially.

Speaker 5 So, what do we have the Celtics record out there? 4-0 now, right?

Speaker 2 4-0.

Speaker 1 74-8, is what he's saying.

Speaker 2 74-8. I want 74-8.
Okay. 74-8.
I forgot someone. I think if they win the play-in tournament, though, they can get an extra win.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 That's an extra. It was 83 games?

Speaker 2 I think so. Oh.

Speaker 2 I tweeted 74-8, and someone replied to me with that.

Speaker 1 74. If they win the play-in tournament?

Speaker 5 But they probably wouldn't.

Speaker 1 No, no, the mid-season tournament. Gotcha.

Speaker 5 the NBA Cup. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That thing that we all care about. It's the NBA Cup.

Speaker 5 I care very deeply about it. Yeah.
Different courts. It's color rush.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Cool throne?

Speaker 2 My cool throne is the AWWs.

Speaker 1 Award-winning watchers?

Speaker 2 Award-winning watchers.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 We have alluded to it the past few weeks. You guys had

Speaker 2 the great time.

Speaker 2 We all had a great time with Bob Doe Sports, guys.

Speaker 2 That video is coming out Tuesday night. It'll be out today when you're going to see this.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 And yeah, if you don't like me and you enjoy seeing my misery and

Speaker 2 the big cat relish in my misery,

Speaker 2 make sure you tune in.

Speaker 1 It was a tough day.

Speaker 2 It was a great day. I mean, like that, it is one of those things.

Speaker 1 But the last nine holes for you were.

Speaker 2 Last few holes. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 2 it's something that we've been looking forward to for a long time.

Speaker 2 I love those guys. I overthought it a lot and couldn't have been worse.
I was down tremendously. Tremendously.

Speaker 1 Tremendously. And all the hangs.

Speaker 2 I had to remind myself, like, who cares? We're just playing golf with our friends. But

Speaker 2 that Monday night after was like, it was tough. And I was like, I talked to someone.
I was like, I'm in a bad spot. And then I kind of realized, like,

Speaker 1 what are we talking about? It's a golf video.

Speaker 5 Did you ever find out whose car you hit?

Speaker 2 It was your car. I have, I have, I'm putting the footage out because people have been coming up to me.
They, that was Bob DeSports. I want to blame memes, but I can't.

Speaker 5 Just blame them.

Speaker 2 The clip they posted from the video, the first video, which is on their channel,

Speaker 2 I had a bad T-shot. It went in the road, and then PFT hit a car.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, we pulled up to it, but they only posted, they didn't show the whole clip.
In the whole clip, we pulled up.

Speaker 2 There's a woman on the side, has no idea who we are, no idea what's going on. She's like, hey, someone hit my car.
PFT, without even thinking or blinking, was like, oh, no, I thought.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was Hank's ball.

Speaker 2 As if she was going to make, oh, Hank?

Speaker 1 All All right, let me talk to Hank. No,

Speaker 5 I said, it was that man right over there. Ma'am, that's the guy who said that was Hank's.

Speaker 7 You definitely said that was Hank's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, like, oh, yeah, that man.

Speaker 5 I mean, I was pointing directly.

Speaker 1 I immediately hit you. You did.
You did. You did.
Immediately.

Speaker 2 Someone hit your car. You must be looking for Hank.
Yeah. And then come to find out it was you.

Speaker 5 To be fair, Hank also hit a car on that T-shot.

Speaker 1 I didn't. False.

Speaker 5 Well, you did. It was a very loud noise.
But somewhere out there, there's a person driving around Chicago with a golf ball dent in their car.

Speaker 1 And $300 in their pocket. Because you gave them $100, and I was like, you know what? She kind of lingered after you gave her $100.
I was like, here, take a couple more.

Speaker 5 I just had $100 in my pocket, and then Big Cat was like, yeah, take $300.

Speaker 5 And then I thought about that the other day. I was like, do you think it'd be a good racket to just hang out next to a golf course? Yes.
And say, excuse me, your ball struck my car.

Speaker 5 Because she had the whole story. She was like, I just got it fixed.
It's my birthday. She said it was her birthday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's, I think, when I added the 200, when she said it was her birthday.

Speaker 5 That would be a good gig, a good side gig to just hang out and say that your car got smashed by a golf ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just wait for someone to hit a nasty hook and you just bang on the top of your car.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if somebody followed me around every time I played golf, they would probably make like $5,000 a month. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so tune into that. PFT, your hot seat culture out.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is somebody in Georgia is using my credit card right now.

Speaker 1 And I haven't.

Speaker 2 I didn't order food to the wrong address.

Speaker 5 Okay, thank you, Hank.

Speaker 5 I did do that again.

Speaker 1 That was nice.

Speaker 5 I had a seven-day streak of not ordering food to the wrong address. And then last night during Monday Night Football, I ordered Korean food and it went to the office.

Speaker 5 People are like, why didn't you change the address? You can change the address. I'm aware of that.
I got the phone call as the person was outside the office again.

Speaker 5 And then I was like, you can just leave it there and then Pug will get it. Pug got it.
PFC's down bad about this.

Speaker 1 You were just sitting in the studio before we started taping. I was like, why don't you just double check? He's like, I know.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, that's the easiest thing. Yeah, why don't you just not do that? I know, it's a problem, and people are accusing me of doing it as a bit.

Speaker 5 This it would be the worst bit of all time if I was just doing this as a bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would, it would.

Speaker 5 Uh, so I think I've now done it four times in the last three weeks. It's not good, and so I think I just have to use different apps at work and different apps at home.

Speaker 2 You could just double-check.

Speaker 1 Fuck, I did say that. Fucked up, Hank.
It is something that I, I

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 I'm a double-check guy. I'm not, I'm not.

Speaker 5 Nothing about me is double-check, but then also on the financial side of things, somebody in Georgia is using my credit card right now.

Speaker 5 And I think I might just let it play out because they're being cool about it. So I got the notification yesterday.
They spent $22 at Pizza Hut. Okay.
And I'm like, okay. That's cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, enjoy your pizza. I'm going to actively monitor it and see what else they're buying.
Don't get crazy. And don't get crazy.
If it's you out there, like, be cool.

Speaker 5 Like, go out to Dave and Buster's maybe, have a good time. Yeah.
If I see like a couple bar tabs here and there on a weekend, just keep it reasonable.

Speaker 2 Wait, but is it your physical card?

Speaker 1 No, not my. I have my physical card on me.

Speaker 5 They've got my number.

Speaker 1 So I don't know. I don't.

Speaker 2 Also, maybe they ordered it online.

Speaker 5 They might have done it online.

Speaker 1 Just be cool.

Speaker 5 Just be cool, and

Speaker 5 we'll see if you can handle the responsibility. This is the dumbest thing.

Speaker 1 This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 5 If whoever it is spends $22 a week on pizza in Georgia, like that's stealing it might go differently.

Speaker 1 That's a cool thief. He might go differently.
Yeah, but eventually

Speaker 1 he's probably testing the waters right now.

Speaker 5 and then i'll be like fraud

Speaker 2 but they already alerted you to potential fraud i got alerted to potential fraud so that's the thing if they yeah if they they're establishing residency for

Speaker 1 you have a squatter on your card yeah i got a squatter

Speaker 1 but i'm in a cool i'm i'm not like

Speaker 1 i'm not like all the other card holders i'm a cool card holder yeah you're setting yourself up you just don't feel like going through the process of getting a new credit that's right

Speaker 1 that's a million percent correct

Speaker 5 although it is kind of a nice thing to just get rid of all your unwanted subscriptions when they all go to autopay yeah it's like that that card doesn't exist anymore. Yes, that's that's a good thing.

Speaker 5 So, Max is Max is right about that.

Speaker 5 But if he does, whoever it is, he or she, if you start fucking around, I feel like I'm a dad who's whose son is at college right now and I'm monitoring the statement.

Speaker 5 If you fuck around and spend it on things that you shouldn't be spending it on, then we're going to have problems.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and if you do like get an emergency, just put a note in it, yeah, like it was an emergency, needed, needed uh, three thousand dollars worth of gas, yeah,

Speaker 5 cvs six orders of plan b all right listen better you spend it now than i'm gonna have to spend more later on you yeah i'm gonna end up paying for this kid's like education yeah uh and then my cool throne is statues

Speaker 5 statues are back in a big way uh we fucked up on sunday by not talking about this we're just talking about football the whole time but uh the dwayne wade statue got unveiled on sunday down in miami and it it's an all-time statue yeah he looks like he's about 65 years old in it.

Speaker 5 He's doing a weird pose where he's like pointing down. And they showed Dwayne the statue.
They took the curtain off.

Speaker 5 And then the look on his face was just priceless because he was like trying to act like it was a cool statue, trying to act like what an honor this is.

Speaker 5 But at the same time, he was looking at his buddies. He's like, what the fuck did they do?

Speaker 5 What did they do to me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was so bad.

Speaker 5 Is this an insult statue that they made me?

Speaker 5 That's the best thing you could do to fuck with somebody that you didn't like is erect statues that look like utter shit of them.

Speaker 1 How is this keep happening?

Speaker 1 I don't understand it.

Speaker 5 Statue making might be harder than we think it is.

Speaker 1 I guess, but isn't there just, can there just be one guy who's really good at statues?

Speaker 2 How could they do it better in the 1400s or even before that?

Speaker 5 I think there were more statue makers in the 1400s.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but now people don't. I guess, yeah, it's like cartoons, too.

Speaker 5 Yeah, people aren't growing up making statues.

Speaker 5 We got a statue problem.

Speaker 1 We got to figure that out. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Or you could 3D print them.

Speaker 2 I liked his response, though. He said it's an artistic representation.

Speaker 5 True.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. That's an easy, if bad art, you can be like, what's art?

Speaker 5 I think the problem with statue makers is they don't let anybody see their statue until it's done.

Speaker 1 No, he saw it. Oh, he saw it after it's being made.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's, I think it was the artist or someone that works with the artist tweeted pictures of him like in the warehouse looking at it

Speaker 2 long before.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. People are comparing it to the Cristiano Ronaldo statue.

Speaker 1 Which that was maybe the worst of all time.

Speaker 5 That's a great one. Apparently they fixed that one.
Yeah, they did. I don't like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did they make AI bigger yet?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Philly still has miniature statues.

Speaker 7 I mean, that has nothing to do with AI.

Speaker 1 Statues. We're talking statues.
We're talking about Alan A. Iverson.

Speaker 5 You thought we were talking about computers?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 7 I knew exactly what you were talking about. All of the statues that are going into the practice facility are miniature.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They made AI so small.

Speaker 5 I had your back on the rundown, Max.

Speaker 1 They tried to bring up the AI statue, and I was like, that's fake news you're getting fake news right now because all their statues are like that yeah thank you thank you uh all right my hot seat is uh altitude because altitude might be making the boys gay so this was uh uh early lunch

Speaker 1 blimp brisket on twitter early lunch early lunch Blimp Brisket is his handle sent this to us. It's from the Reddit Am I the Asshole.

Speaker 1 And it says, Am I the asshole for not believing my boyfriend that suddenly became gay due to altitude difference?

Speaker 1 So she writes, I can hardly believe that I'm writing this or that it happened, but I am.

Speaker 1 And it did, sorry, but I am, and it did. So here we go.
I, 28-year-old female, have been with my boyfriend, 29-year-old male for three years.

Speaker 1 Every now and then, he has to go to Utah for a few days because his team has a customer service branch that operates out there.

Speaker 1 I got a text from one of his coworkers who has become a friend of ours, and it said that on the trip, my boyfriend cheated on me with some guy on the customer care team. By the way, what a narc.

Speaker 1 I did not believe it at first because, first of all, my boyfriend has always identified as straight. And second of all, I just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 When he got home, I asked him about it, basically expecting him to confirm it was nonsense. Instead, he got a real quiet and had a sit down and said he had to tell me something.
He said it was true.

Speaker 1 He did have a one-night stand with a guy. I couldn't believe it.
I asked him if he was telling me if he was gay or bisexual, and regardless, cheating is cheating.

Speaker 1 He insisted he was not gay at all, but the strangest thing happened. He said that when he was at dinner with his Utah co-workers, he suddenly became gay.
I was like, what? And he said, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 And he said he thinks it was due to the altitude.

Speaker 5 I believe this guy.

Speaker 1 What an all-time panic. I got to think of something move.

Speaker 1 Everyone's been in a spot where they got to panic and think of something.

Speaker 1 Altitude.

Speaker 1 Altitude made me suck that guy's dick.

Speaker 5 Do you think he had this planned? Or do you think that was just spur of the moment?

Speaker 1 Totally, no, totally spur of the moment.

Speaker 1 He had none of this planned he i mean he cheated he's probably bisexual and then when he was called out on it he's like what the fuck do i do altitude yeah i'm i'm never gonna go to utah and find out though i also feel like a girlfriend saying my boyfriend's always identified as straight is not like the most ringing endorsement it's like

Speaker 5 my boyfriend's definitely straight yeah not like oh he identifies as straight my boyfriend has has told me in the past that he's straight yeah like if you've had a conversation in the past like if you're dating somebody and you know because you've asked them, hey, are you straight?

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, you're dating that, well, you're dating them, they might kind of have other inclinations.

Speaker 2 Right, yeah, and you should have to identify to you how they feel.

Speaker 1 I just, I, this guy, listen, he was in a scramble drill, and he's like, this is going to work.

Speaker 5 So, is he saying like lack of oxygen to the brain?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess. Altitude.
I mean, people get altitude sickness. Can you read that?

Speaker 2 I just became gay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he insists he was not gay at all, but was the strangest thing happened. He said that when he was at dinner with his Utah co-workers, he suddenly became gay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He just had a couple drinks.

Speaker 1 Altitude, yeah. He's experiencing all of a sudden I was gay.
A couple beers, altitude, bang, you're gay. Next thing you know, gay.
It's fucking crazy. Could happen to the best of us.

Speaker 1 I still think, shout out our guy, he's...

Speaker 1 Not a segue because he's not gay, but shout out to our guy, Buddha Ben, who got altitude sickness, had to be driven out of Colorado. Remember that? Yeah.
Yeah. Altitude sickness is real.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Like you can get that shit. I was there for a bachelor's fucked up a couple years ago and just walking to the top of the stairs in a townhouse.
It's like, what, what's going on?

Speaker 1 Next thing you know, you're sucking a guy's dick.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, there was a naked dude up there. And I was like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 Why am I up here? I became gay. Suddenly became gay.
Altitude sickness.

Speaker 1 Was that. Oh, whoa.

Speaker 2 Okay. No, like when he walked into the house.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What? It was altitude.

Speaker 5 That's a question we need to ask.

Speaker 5 Was it the house of another man?

Speaker 1 Oh, in Montana. Yeah.
Yeah. yeah.
Oh, yeah. That was altitude sickness.

Speaker 5 Russell's a big Equinox guy, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was just looking for it. The altitude sickness.
If anyone else has an experience of just being straight at sea level and gay at high altitude, let us know.

Speaker 5 Isn't that the plot of Brokeback Bouton?

Speaker 1 Kind of, yeah. He just kept on going up and up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I never saw that movie.

Speaker 5 I never did either, but because I've always lived at sea level. I did see.
I saw Max and Hank reenact it on a live stream one time.

Speaker 1 That's true. Yeah.
And then my cool throne is love.

Speaker 1 Who is love? Giselle is pregnant.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's nice. With the karate instructor.
Jiu-Jitsu. Karate Jiu-Jitsu, same thing.
Capuera?

Speaker 5 Capuera, dance fighting? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Henry, thoughts.

Speaker 2 I feel, I feel for my guy.

Speaker 2 He posted a picture of the sunset last night with Landslide playing.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 5 He went Fleetwood Matt?

Speaker 1 He went landslide.

Speaker 2 And I felt, I felt like I just felt

Speaker 1 my god.

Speaker 5 Down bad.

Speaker 1 The landslide you only use for down. It's it's that is a

Speaker 5 holy shit. That's a song you play when you want to cry.
Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 5 And he was crying when he sent that for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So are they are they getting married?

Speaker 5 Or is it just like a training-related injury that she's got?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I just feel, I, I, my, my take is I feel I feel for my guy.
Yeah, the landslide, like I got I almost cried.

Speaker 5 Listen, you'd rather get divorced one year too early than one year too late.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right? Yeah.

Speaker 5 So it's good that it's good.

Speaker 2 And at least the sequence of events wasn't like pregnant, then divorced.

Speaker 1 You know what Tom Brady should do to get to get back at Giselle? He should get this unborn child addicted to playing football. And then the unborn child becomes

Speaker 1 loves football more than his mom.

Speaker 1 Daddy fucks her? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, that was kind of how the relationship, you know, Tom Brady was addicted to football. She'd be like, you got it, Max now?

Speaker 5 It's a jiu-jitsu instructor, so you know, that thing's going to be kicking in the wound.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hi-yah!

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All that shit. That's tough.
Damn,

Speaker 1 I feel like you're down bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 You should do the landslide. Because I thought about it.

Speaker 5 Tom was Team Hank, so

Speaker 5 you got to be Team Thomas.

Speaker 1 Doug.

Speaker 1 Do you think he's going to be Team jiu-jitsu?

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is it's not good.

Speaker 1 We should take a karate class

Speaker 1 for a video, that would be fun.

Speaker 5 You want to just fight?

Speaker 1 I'd like to see Max just in the Donnie does jiu-jitsu around here. Do breaks, Donnie?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know if I want to do jiu-jitsu though, because that's the one where you like another man has your back and you're getting choked out with mercy.

Speaker 1 No, I want to just do

Speaker 1 it. Joe Missoula, I'll let him choke me out.

Speaker 5 I want to just break a board mountains, but yeah, breaking boards would be.

Speaker 2 I'll let him choke me out on sea level. I don't care.

Speaker 1 Hell yes, Hank. Hell yes.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, when you get choked out, you're technically just turning into gay because you're getting less oxygen in your brain.

Speaker 1 He's choking you out from straight to gay.

Speaker 5 Every dead person's actually gay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 When Joe Missoula is going to choke you out, you're going to wake up and you're just going to be gay.

Speaker 5 That's how it works. Fellas, is it gay to get killed?

Speaker 1 I suddenly became gay.

Speaker 1 Nice try, dude. Okay, let's get to Paolo Bancaro in studio.
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Speaker 5 And now here's Paolo Bancaro.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is Paolo Bancaro, fresh off

Speaker 1 50 points.

Speaker 1 We actually, Paolo, first of all, thank you for coming to the office. We appreciate it.
We were, so it's obviously football season, so we're like, oh, this is going to be great.

Speaker 1 We're going to have Paolo in. We can save it for when we need an interview.
And then you decided to drop 50 on Monday night.

Speaker 1 We're like, well, we have to run this right away because for, I mean, we'll start there. What was it like being in the zone? You were in the zone.
37 and a half? Yeah. Yeah, I was in the zone, man.

Speaker 1 It was just one of those games where, like, you make your first couple shots and

Speaker 1 you just get lost in it, and then you just keep going. You know, you're not even worried about, you know, how many points you are scoring.
You just, you know,

Speaker 1 you don't want to stop. So

Speaker 1 it was fun, man.

Speaker 1 I've had a couple of big games in the league, you know, and playoffs, whatnot, but like that was probably definitely like the standalone game where it just, it was just like an avalanche.

Speaker 1 It like kept going. Did you actually feel like everything you threw at the hoop was going in no matter what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 When you get to that point, you know, it's like your instincts take over.

Speaker 1 And so you just start doing stuff that you worked on in the summer, you know, shots that, you know, you practice that maybe you wouldn't, you know, shoot every game, but like you're feeling good, so you're going to let that one fly.

Speaker 1 So it was fun, man. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What does it feel like? And have you figured out, like, have you, have you thought about how to recreate that feeling? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 That's all I, that's all I ever think about is, you know, how can I get in that zone as often as possible?

Speaker 1 And I think it's just, like I said, trusting your instincts when you go out there, being aggressive, having like, you know, an aggressive mindset, but also not trying to press and force it.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think anything or any bucket I had in that game was forced or was a forced shot. I think I just let the game come to me.

Speaker 1 You know, it was, everything was happening, happening so naturally and it was flowing. So it was really, it was really fun.

Speaker 5 What if that's just how good you are now? Yeah. If you go out tomorrow night and it's like another 50.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's, that's kind of, that's like what I think in my head is like, you know, why can't I do it again? Obviously, you know, I can put up 50 every night, but like just that.

Speaker 1 Not with that mindset. No, I mean, like, you, what if you're still in the zone? Yeah, no.
You could still be in the zone. Yeah, I'm very much still in the zone for sure.
It's only game four, you know?

Speaker 1 So I felt like I got off to a great start in Miami and I I was in that zone, and I felt like I left a lot of points on the board in that game.

Speaker 1 And so the two after that was like, you know, I was chilling a little bit, wasn't as happy with my performance.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, that fourth game, like, I was like, oh, okay, so this is what it looks like if I kind of put it all together.

Speaker 1 And I still left, you know, I missed a bunch of free throws, you know, a couple shots I could have made. So like.

Speaker 1 It just makes it fun for me because I know there's more. You know, I don't feel like, oh, man, I gave everything I had.
I can't go any, you know, further than that.

Speaker 1 It's like, nah, man, I feel like I can, you know, go get 60, 70. Yeah, that's got to be the best feeling ever.

Speaker 5 Are you going to eat the same meal before the game? Like, do everything the same way?

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm not that superstitious.

Speaker 1 I would say, you know, what I eat is not necessarily most about what I eat, but like the amount of calories I get.

Speaker 1 Like, I just got to eat a shit ton of food before the game, just so I have, you know, energy. So I saw that online that you lose seven pounds of sweat.
Is that true?

Speaker 1 During the game? game there was some it's like it got the way it got reported and when i was in college it was like

Speaker 1 a little walky okay but uh yeah basically like there would be practices you weigh in before weigh out after and so i'd weigh in at you know certain weight and then after practice i'd be you know seven eight pounds lighter

Speaker 1 and so they like you know they were all like amazed by that but i just sweat a ton and so then i started cramping at the start of my freshman year a couple games and they kind of made it a big deal When, really, honestly, people don't really know.

Speaker 1 Well, I think I said it, but like at that time of my life, I didn't really have an idea of like electrolytes and like

Speaker 1 the fact that you need them every single game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because like I was just drinking water, a little Gatorade, but I wasn't drinking like electrolyte constantly, like you know, pedialite or stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So I was going into these games, like super high-intensity game, like stuff that I've never felt before. And like, my body was like just locking up.
So I was like, you know, tripping at first.

Speaker 1 But once I started drinking pediolite and electrolytes stuff like that i got i got right so was there like a i i always am fascinated the the jump of college to pros and then you you go from being a student and you know you're you're in college you don't have millions of dollars then you're a pro and now you're spending money on your body and stuff have you noticed that for your body where it's like the amount that you put in off-season training just how to deal with it like you're just that much stronger and better yeah for sure i think you don't really pay attention attention to what you eat or at least i didn't when i was a kid or teenager you know i was kind of eating whatever i was always in pretty good shape but uh you know once you get older and it start playing at a higher level you realize that you know certain stuff makes you feel certain ways and like you know for a game you know i got to load up on a bunch of stuff because i know i'm gonna you know i'm out there trying to go 100 the whole game right you know for 40 plus minutes if i have to so i know how much energy that takes out of me especially me being you know my size and trying to move as much as I do, you know, it takes a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 And so like, you know, you realize that, you know, you got to eat, you know, whether you're hungry or not sometimes. Like, sometimes I'm not even hungry, but I know I got to get these meals in.

Speaker 1 I feel the same way.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You got to eat.
Yeah, I think it's interesting that Duke doesn't provide adequate nutrition for their players, and they also make you weigh in all the time.

Speaker 5 It's like it gives you bad body image there. Yeah.
It doesn't sound healthy mentally.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do the Duke stuff now? Yeah, let's get it out the way. Okay, so when you sat down, I told you, I was like, hey, look,

Speaker 1 just so you know, I'm a very big Duke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so let me rewind a little bit on like when I was talking about this podcast. Yeah.
So they were like a boss duel, big cat. Yeah.
It is the guy who's running it.

Speaker 1 And I was like, hold on, like, why is that Nick? Or why does that username sound familiar? And I just remembered being in college, Coach K's last year, and I always saw

Speaker 1 on Twitter. And by the way, going to Duke taught me to, like, stay off Twitter.
Yeah, yeah, people, guys like me are on those

Speaker 1 guys. It's not for you.
Yeah, so it made me realize, like, you know, stay off Twitter during the season. Like, just focus.

Speaker 1 But anyway, my whole freshman season, every time we lose or have a bad game, it'd be barstool fucking big cat

Speaker 1 talking shit.

Speaker 1 And I'll be like, who runs this account, though? I'm like, who is this dude? Like, he's shitting on, you know, us, Coach K. And I just, it would piss me off.
So kind of circled back in front of me.

Speaker 1 It feels good. Yeah, yeah.
So I'll tell you my trauma real quick. I went to the University of Wisconsin.
I don't think they'll ever win a national championship in anything.

Speaker 1 They were up at half against Duke in 2015. From that moment forward, it was like, I never liked Duke, but that was like,

Speaker 1 a part of my soul is still in Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. You were there? I was there.
A part of my soul is sitting there in the seats, and it's just never coming back.

Speaker 1 So when Coach K said that he was going to retire and he made sure that he let everyone know that he was going to retire retire 12 months before he was going to retire and we all had to, you know, suck his dick for a year,

Speaker 1 I decided that I was going to make it a

Speaker 1 personal mission to just be on his ass the whole time. So you were actually, you kind of were like

Speaker 1 a casualty of war because it wasn't like a personal hatred towards you. It was Coach K.
You just happened to be on the last Duke team with Coach K. So that last game in Cameron, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 Man, that was some bullshit. That's what that was.

Speaker 1 That was.

Speaker 1 That was, man. I feel like you guys were put in a bad spot from a player's perspective.
Listen, I loved it. I loved every second of that game.

Speaker 1 But from a player's perspective, to be honest with you, the pomp and circumstance, and when they roll out like 90 dudes who went to Duke and were Coach K, like the pressure that was on you guys was not fair, I feel like.

Speaker 1 Is that an accurate statement?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say it's not fair. I think that's why you go to Duke to play in those type of of games.
The Brotherhood? Yeah. I mean, Coach K told me

Speaker 1 before I even got to Duke that my year was going to be his last year. So I came in already knowing that every game we played was going to be a big deal because of him.
And it was his last game.

Speaker 1 And everyone knew that last game in Cameron was like, you know, before the season even started, you knew that was going to be the game. Yeah.
The game.

Speaker 1 Everyone was talking about that the whole season. Like, man, what's going to happen? Who's going to be there? Like, it was already being talked about the whole season.

Speaker 1 So, you can't, I don't, I wouldn't say it was unfair because we knew what was to expect.

Speaker 1 But then, what about when you get in the tournament and the pressure of the tournament knowing it's his last tournament? It's that's got to be a lot.

Speaker 1 I mean, you guys are, you know, 18, 19-year-old kids. You go to the Final Four, you had a good tournament run.
I can't, did you guys lose? Who did you guys lose to? You know who we lost to.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was there for that. No, no, I was there.

Speaker 5 I remember that they lost to UNC in the last home game.

Speaker 1 They didn't lose to UNC in the tournament, did they?

Speaker 5 No, no, that was the last home game. So, who did you guys lose to the tournament?

Speaker 1 Same team?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Damn.
Yeah, we know. It sucks.
This is the beauty of our podcast, by the way, just to like break character for a second.

Speaker 1 You just put up 50 in an NBA game, and you're like, you know, $100 million, one of the best players in the NBA, and we're sitting here being like, ha ha, you lost the UNC.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's what I get that all the time, though. I mean, like I said, I have like that.

Speaker 5 I loved my college career.

Speaker 1 Like, I thought it was awesome, but like, that will forever be a stain, you know, is losing those two games to that school, obviously because we were it's hard and i let it out let it out and they beat us twice so credit to them they beat us twice two out of three times they were the better team in those two games but we were so much better than them man oh like as a team like we were so much like we went in there the first time we played them we walked in the din dome and beat them by 30 right and like and took their like you could just tell we was just a better team i feel like if that's second game once a team in college though like once a team any team in any sport is is playing hot and and and

Speaker 1 you can call a Cinderella run like that, they're hard to beat. So

Speaker 1 guys on their team made a lot of shots, but

Speaker 1 it doesn't, it'll never, you know, I'll never be convinced that we weren't just hands down better than them. I just think

Speaker 1 when the moment was there, when it was the moment, they had guys that stepped up and made plays in the moment. So you got to give them credit.

Speaker 1 Did you, were you thinking about going anywhere else besides Duke? Were you thinking about maybe staying at Washington? Our guy Spencer Dawes would have been happy. Yeah, you guys know Spencer?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a a good friend of mine. He actually told me to tell you that.
That's my big bro.

Speaker 5 He wants his golf clubs back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, yeah, they're in Seattle. He got to get on, he got to text my dad about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, yeah, I thought about going to a few different schools, man.

Speaker 1 Honestly, like, Duke wasn't even, you know, probably a top two or three until COVID hit. Um, because I remember going on, I went on five official visits my junior year before COVID and everything.

Speaker 1 And so I went to Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Gonzaga.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I had a blast on four out of five, and Duke was the one I actually had, you know,

Speaker 1 it was a great experience, you know, being around the campus, but like, I didn't have a fun time. Like, it wasn't that fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so I kind of had,

Speaker 1 ah, you know, not really feeling it.

Speaker 1 But once COVID hit and everything shut down, like, you know, I just kind of started thinking about it even more and more. And that's when Coach K, like, you know,

Speaker 1 you would expect a guy like him, the, the, you know, the GOAT to not be so, you know, anxious to talk to me every single day.

Speaker 1 But he was, like, by far out of any coach, you know, calling me the most, texting me the most throughout the pandemic. Sounds like a violation.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He was calling you, and I'll open up the file again.

Speaker 5 So he didn't really want to go to Duke, and then when the country shut down, all the investigative parts of the Instagram shut down, he started being in touch with you. And then

Speaker 1 I was a 16-year-old kid taking visits and i was caught up in oh i didn't have that much fun on this duke visit right they're not that high up on my list and then covet kind of brought me back down to earth and i realized look i'm trying to go to the nba yeah yeah to be the number one pick so so i need to go to where i have the best opportunity yeah so obviously i listen i don't like coach k i don't like duke but i can admit that he's the best college coach of all time that's there we go i mean he is he won every in every decade it was crazy uh all he did was win it was it pissed me off what was it about him though, like when you got there and you started getting into coach K practices that made him different or how he pushed you guys?

Speaker 1 Because I do respect the fact that he's a great coach. I don't like him otherwise, but I can say that much.
Yeah. I mean, he's just really like probably the best motivator I've ever been around.

Speaker 1 He just knows how to push your buttons and get the best out of you, no matter who it is.

Speaker 1 Like, he's just so,

Speaker 1 you know, he's so good at knowing how to communicate with each and every person on the team. You know, he communicates to everyone differently.

Speaker 1 And so I think for him, with me, it was like he saw how talented I was, but he knew that I had to become more of a leader and more of a voice, you know, because I used to, you know, I was really one of those guys that just kind of let this play do the talking, you know, lead by example type of guy.

Speaker 1 Like, I wasn't

Speaker 1 very vocally, you know, active.

Speaker 1 Coming in as a freshman, like, you know, he would let me know, like, man, it doesn't matter that you're a freshman. You got to, if you're the best player on the team, you got to be a leader.

Speaker 1 You got to be the vocal leader, you know, or you're never, the team's never going to be what it should be if you're not leading it.

Speaker 1 And so, like, I struggled, you know, understanding that at times back then. But, like, now, three years later, when I'm in the NBA, like, I fully understand.
And, like, it's crazy because

Speaker 1 everything he's ever told me or like everything he ever said was going to happen if I did this or did that, like, it's happened. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, like, when I look back and think about all the stuff he's ever told me or got on me about, it's all like true and all

Speaker 1 came to fruition. Yeah.
It's crazy. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 I read a story that he called your mom one time and he told your mom, I'm going to read the quote here. Paolo's going to call you tomorrow because I'm about to get in his ass.

Speaker 5 And then your mom said, I promise you he's not going to call this house. It's not a soft place to land.

Speaker 5 And Coach K said, I've been trying to talk to him and I can tell he's mad, but I'm trying to be nice.

Speaker 5 And then your mom told Coach K that if you want him to get pissed, if you want him to do what you want him to do, ream his ass, then kick him out of practice.

Speaker 5 Don't kick him out where he can sit in the locker locker room kick him out of the building so your mom was coaching coach k on how to coach you

Speaker 1 how crazy is that that sounds like my mom right there yeah and she was an unbelievable basketball player herself right yeah she's an unbelievable player and uh she was a coach too for like the like up till i was probably 13 14 she was a coach oh wow yeah yeah and wait did you never want to play football because your dad played football no i played football yeah that was like my first love were you obviously an incredible football player too yeah i was i was legit Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was legit. And then I would say I started hitting my growth spurt.
And, you know, once you get to above like 6'6 in football, it gets kind of hard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Guys, you know, it's hard to get low, you know. But I love football, man.
That was like my first love.

Speaker 1 My dad, I remember him taking me out back to the backyard when I was like six years old, working on hitting. Like, I love football.

Speaker 1 I still watch football religiously, study it, follow it, you know, college and NFL. So my little brother plays receiver, you know.
Where does he play? He plays, he's a junior in high school. Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 trying to get him to college.

Speaker 1 He should be good, though.

Speaker 5 Okay. So, you're a Seahawks fan?

Speaker 1 Yep. All right.

Speaker 5 You had a pretty good experience growing up then.

Speaker 1 Yes, that was a golden age, man. Yeah.
That was like Prime Seattle. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So, Marshawn Lynch guy?

Speaker 1 He was Marshawn Lynch, Legion of Boom, all that. Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 Where do you land on the Anthony Edwards that you play in the NFL?

Speaker 1 Yeah, someone else asked me about that. I said that I think he would do it until he took a real hit.
And I think he'd want to go back and play basketball. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 The minute you go over the middle, it's like, okay, it was pretty nice making hundreds of millions of dollars guaranteed money in the NBA. Exactly.
That's a big thing.

Speaker 5 I also feel like you could just be a tight end on goal line packages. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Just throw a jump ball up. They don't have to put you in where you're going to get hit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I mean, I could play receiver. Yeah.
Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 5 I would like to see that. I would like to see another two sports out this time, basketball and football.
I think I'd be good for both sports.

Speaker 5 So, you said at one point that you're delusional, that you don't think you have any weaknesses in your game.

Speaker 5 I like that. I like that a lot.
And I can tell that you get, like, even just talking about the UNC stuff and Duke, you have a chip on your shoulder. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Where you like, you're still pissed off about that and you carry that forward. You probably use that to make you better.

Speaker 5 But if you think that you're, if you're like self-admitted delusional and you think that there are no weaknesses in your game, how then do you figure out what you have to improve on?

Speaker 1 By just

Speaker 1 realizing that I'm not perfect. I'm really never going to be perfect.
So I think just doing whatever I can to chase perfection, like, or strive for it.

Speaker 1 You know, I think if you can strive for it, you'll land somewhere close to it. And so

Speaker 1 just whatever I can do. I mean, obviously, like...

Speaker 1 I'm only in my third year, so every year it's been something that I can improve on.

Speaker 1 Like, nothing I feel is a weakness, because I feel like I can do everything, but there are certain areas that I can get better at or that I can improve on, especially coming into the NBA, it's a different game, better players.

Speaker 1 So, you have to sharpen up on a lot of stuff that in high school and college, you can physically dominate guys. And so, I was so used to that.

Speaker 1 High school, it was really no challenges. College, it was

Speaker 1 challenges, but it was

Speaker 1 pretty easy for the most part.

Speaker 1 UNC. Yeah, but even UNC wasn't doing nothing about it.
I'm on the beach two out of three. I had 20 and 10.

Speaker 1 They wasn't stopping nothing. But

Speaker 1 yeah, I think every level, I think to be the best, you can't just stop working or you can't ever

Speaker 1 stay in one place. I think you just have to always add something or sharpen something.

Speaker 1 I mean, you were good right away in the NBA, but you were also a teenager to start in the NBA. Was there any moment where you're like, this is grown men? Like,

Speaker 1 not a welcome to the NBA moment because I think you had a ferocious dunk, like one one of your first couple games.

Speaker 1 But was there any moment where you're like, oh shit, like, this is man strength versus I got to get my weight up? Yeah, my first,

Speaker 1 people always talk about like the first regular season game being like the thing, but like for me, it was preseason because that's, I mean, it's live action, right?

Speaker 1 So we played, uh, we played at Memphis.

Speaker 1 My first ever NBA action was at Memphis, and that was, they had a good unit. That was when they had Jod, Bain, Brooks, Stephen Adams, Jaron Jackson.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, I was on Steven Adams a couple of times and like

Speaker 1 I tried to free throw line box out and I'm trying to box him out and he just like nudged me with one arm all the way under the hoop and it was just like nothing you could do.

Speaker 1 And I didn't have a very good game. And so I just remember being like, oh yeah, that was different.
Like that was not. you know, college, that was not anything.

Speaker 1 Like that was, that was a different speed, different strength, like all over the floor. And so I think those preseason games helped me.

Speaker 1 So then when that first regular season came, you know, I was already kind kind of adjusted to it. But, like, my first taste of the NBA was like, it was, it was rough.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think I scored more than eight, you know, seven, eight points that game. Yeah.
So, so, when you get to the NBA, obviously, you're the number one pick.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows you're an incredible basketball player, but was there ever a moment where you get on the court with someone you watched and you're, you had like a second where you're like, oh, shit, that's Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn, that's LeBron. Where you had to like,

Speaker 1 almost snap out of him, be like, wait, no, I'm Paul Bencaro. I got to play in this game.
Yeah, I say

Speaker 2 every

Speaker 1 star that I've, or every superstar I say, that I played against in my rookie year, I had a decent game except LeBron. Like, KD, you know, I played well.
We battled.

Speaker 1 He had 40 on my head, but like, I, I had, like, 20-something. Like, I felt like I played all right.

Speaker 1 But, like, Braun, I remember the first time we played Braun in Orlando, and I was just starstruck in my rookie year. I had a terrible game, too.
I had, like, two points, fouled out.

Speaker 1 Like, probably one of my worst games in the NBA. And I was just, but the whole time, it was like, I couldn't, I was like, damn, like Braun's out here, and I'm out here,

Speaker 1 and I couldn't just, I couldn't get past it, I couldn't even think straight.

Speaker 5 Yeah, have you gotten like words of encouragement from somebody that you grew up like idolizing, somebody that you grew up as a fan of, and they see you and they recognize you, and they come over to you and like let you know, like, hey, you're going to be great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's happened a lot, you know, up to now, but I would say, like, you know, hearing it from KD, Carmella,

Speaker 1 those two right there, you know, uh i saw them my rookie year all-star break and uh we were in an event and i was in the same event and uh they both pulled me to the side and were we were all having a conversation and basically they were just telling me you know you know i'm one of i'm one of those guys i just gotta you know stay stay hungry stay in the gym and so my rookie year hearing that from those two it was like that was all i needed to hear i didn't need no other you know validation from anybody else like those are two two of my you know probably top three four favorite guys ever so uh i would say that moment yeah it's gotta be cool it's gonna be awesome and one day you'll get a statue yeah you want a statue like dwayne i mean there's a there's a picture oh you're talking about a statue from of me yeah yeah i mean hell yeah yeah yeah i just think a statue would be dope obviously i i wanted to be a pretty good resemblance of me though i think i've been seeing a couple statues that have been a little

Speaker 1 Little itchy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you got to be involved in the sculpting process the entire way.

Speaker 1 You got to prove it.

Speaker 5 Surprised. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to prove it for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to see it so this last year you guys go to the playoffs you the magic are a really young team fun team you go to the playoffs you go to seven against the calves was it could you feel the difference playing in playoff basketball like the intensity and also was there ever a moment where you're like damn this these games suck because there were a couple games that were tough yeah i think both sides yeah yeah i think uh definitely feel a difference yeah 100 you feel a difference just with Everything the atmosphere, the buildup, the refereeing, you know, everything is just different.

Speaker 1 The trash talk, you know, everything is just elevated in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, I think those first two games were like pretty shitty because it was our first two games ever in the playoffs as a team.

Speaker 1 And I just remember Cleveland was talking so much shit, like, you know, telling us we wasn't ready for this and like

Speaker 1 they're beating us, so we can't really talk. And then I just remember winning those next two at home and like.
We all kind of felt like, nah, we belong here, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And then we, you know, game five is the one that hurts for me because i was so sure that we was going to win that game and so when we didn't i feel like that you know that game if we win that game i think we win the series in game six so when we lost that game i think we lost about one or two at the last second you know that was tough and then game six won that that was a hell of a game in orlando just doing that in front of the fans watching game seven that was like big for the city i think just doing that you know not going home fighting another live another day and then uh game seven was tough too man because

Speaker 1 we were up, you know, 18, I think, and we just felt you felt it for a second. Like, we're about to do this.
Like, it felt like that for a second, and then that shit just went away in that second half.

Speaker 1 But that's also kind of the beauty of the NBA is like, you never, young teams are so much fun because they have to go through like the pains and they have to build up.

Speaker 1 So it's like, you guys kind of earned your stripes last year. Do you feel that coming back this year where it's like,

Speaker 1 we went to the playoffs, we went to a game seven. Yeah, we didn't advance, but we know what it takes to get back to that spot next year.
It's going to be different. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 I think that's just the attitude with every, everyone. I think the whole summer, I think

Speaker 1 leaving after that game seven loss, I think that was just the whole vibe was like, this is just the beginning. Like we're, we're going to be back here and it won't be the same results.

Speaker 1 So I think that just motivated everyone on the team throughout the summer. And you just saw guys working and getting better.

Speaker 1 And, you know, when we came back for training camp, we had a pretty intense training camp, probably the best, or not probably, definitely the best camp I've been a part of since being being with the Magic in the NBA.

Speaker 1 And I think, you know, everyone's kind of poised right now and just trying to stay steady throughout this early season and realizing how important this early season is too, because that's what helped us last year was having such a good start.

Speaker 1 So I think, yeah, everyone's just in a good mind frame.

Speaker 5 I feel like the NBA playoffs, we don't talk about how long it is enough and how many games you have to play sometimes.

Speaker 1 It's a hell of a journey. Like, I remember just thinking after game seven, like, I'm spent right now mentally and physically.

Speaker 1 Like, I couldn't imagine having to get it together, go play in two days at Boston and start a whole other series.

Speaker 5 Yeah, especially if you got like three more series after that.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 5 And to be able to win a championship is like, that does seem to me like we talk about hockey being so hard.

Speaker 5 We talk about the NFL if you have to go on the road a few times playing one game a week, but in NBA postseason, you're adding on like an extra two and a half months of your season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's a full-blown second season.

Speaker 5 Yeah. That's what it feels like.
But what about the NBA Cup? Maybe third season. How focused are you right now on the NBA Cup?

Speaker 1 I think the NBA Cup's a good. I think I like it.

Speaker 1 We had a chance to make it last year. We lost a tiebreaker or else we would have been in Vegas.

Speaker 1 But I think it's dope for the league to have something early in the year that fans can be drawn to and you can win some money and a trophy.

Speaker 1 And it's also

Speaker 1 certain bragging rights are part of it, I think, as well, where you got these pools with teams and you got the the NBA Cup showdown in Las Vegas. Like, I think it's all cool.

Speaker 5 Yeah, thinking about going heavy on the magic for the NBA Cup. To me, that's like how you guys learn how to win.
Yeah, you got the NBA Cup. That's basically a playoff series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it can be. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 Hey, are you going to ever play for Team Italy?

Speaker 1 You have an Italian passport, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a citizen. Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not Italian, but my kids are Italian, Italian, so I'm supportive. I'm an Italian father, so I am supportive of your culture.

Speaker 1 Max in the booth there, he's full Italian, kind of crazy, angry, and all that stuff. So are you going to do it, though?

Speaker 1 Well, I was. And then now you're going to play for Team USA.
Well, I already did play for Team USA. But I'm saying, wait, were you in this Olympics? No.
No, no, no. I was in the World Cup.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But so the next Olympics, you're in Team USA. So even if Italy drops a bag,

Speaker 1 what if Italy's like, Paolo, you're our guy, 100 mil, put a horse head in your bed? Sheesh. 100 million? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I could turn that down. Yeah, you can't turn that down.
Yeah, I don't think I could turn that down. What if it's guys like us playing on the team with you?

Speaker 1 I mean, I've seen their team. We played against them, actually.
When I played for USA, we played against Italy in the quarterfinals. And they were pretty good? No, we won by 40.

Speaker 1 We won by 40. But, like, it was a fun game.
You know, they were heckling me a little bit.

Speaker 1 So, like, like i felt like it was dope it was dope like having that international like you know they didn't really like me but it was like i embraced it it was cool and all the players and coaches showed love it was the fans so yeah you know it was i that was a that was a hell of a process man i that was a hell of a process like that whole uh that was after my rookie year like it was when i had to make the decision and uh i had been talking to ity for a while because they reached out to me when i was like 16 years old.

Speaker 1 Reached out to my dad, and I'm sure they saw my name and was like, who the hell is this kid? Yeah, he's got an O on the end of his name. Yeah, with this Italian name.

Speaker 1 And so at the time, I had been trying out for USA's junior teams, and I got cut. So I wasn't really rocking with

Speaker 1 the whole USA thing because I was salty about getting cut. And so I committed to play for Italy.
And they were going to put me right onto the national team as a 16, 17 year old.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I was going to play until COVID. Like if COVID never happened, if COVID never happened, I would have played in 2020 for you.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't have gone to Duke and you would have been an Italian hero. I probably would have still went to Duke.

Speaker 1 You kind of said you didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would have still went to Duke, though. Italian hero.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you're going to, I assume the next Olympics, your eyes are on Team USA and wanted to be in the Olympics. I mean, you should be.
Yeah. I think that would be cool, especially being in L.A.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But that's a long ways away.
Yeah, that is a long ways away. But I'm going to vote for you.
I think it's a fan vote, and

Speaker 1 I'll fan vote you in. I appreciate that.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was fun watching the Olympics this summer from, I was back home. It was fun watching it.
Yeah. Did you see our mutual friend Donnie McGrath partying with the team after?

Speaker 5 No, I didn't. Oh, I'll show you that video after.

Speaker 1 I didn't see that. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, wait.
You know what? He was in Paris during that time. Yeah, he was.
Yeah. Donnie's a former teammate of mine.
Yeah, sounds about right. TBT.

Speaker 1 That's what Donnie, that's Donnie right now. He's the best.
Yeah, with Lyft. You guys are

Speaker 1 they're crushing it, yes, sir. They're doing great things right now.
Yeah, they're the best.

Speaker 5 I feel like that would be a uh it would be an awesome honor to represent the United States at the Olympics, but at the same time, you probably want a break from taking basketball, right?

Speaker 5 Like, give me my offseason.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I mean, that was, yeah, I think definitely, um, well, I don't think there's any international competitions leading up to it, so if that was to present itself, I think, you know, being a part of that is probably a dope experience.

Speaker 1 Um, I was on the World Cup team, you know, and that was a little different. You know, we didn't meddle or anything, so that was like a shitty experience.
But

Speaker 1 I think if you win gold, though, it's worth it. Yeah.
Yeah. But if you lose, though, it's like you should.

Speaker 5 It's really no win. It's like the U.S., you should win at basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What's the one thing? I feel like all sports culture has kind of gotten a little weird with fans.
We're idiots. We sit on the couch.
We're like, oh, we could do that.

Speaker 1 What's the one thing that fans think that is easy in basketball?

Speaker 5 You're like, you have no idea.

Speaker 1 Because there are guys who like,

Speaker 1 you you know, who rip NBA players. Like, you don't understand.
Even the NFL NBA debates, like, you don't understand how good NBA players are. Even the last guy on the bench.
Yeah, no, I think,

Speaker 1 I think, I mean, fans, fans, I think, are really emotional. Obviously, they act off emotion.
So when you see someone have a bad game, you know, they suck automatically.

Speaker 1 But one, I think they don't realize for basketball players how tough it is to play 82 games or be in an 82-game season.

Speaker 1 You know, just with the traveling, you you know, getting in late, 3, 4 a.m., having to wake up the next day and play, you know, and then get, and then fly out and play the next day.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like there's certain stretches of the season where, you know, it's going to get to anybody. Right.
And so

Speaker 1 obviously fans, you know, want to see their team win no matter what. But I think there's certain parts of the season where, you know, guys are starting to feel fatigued and mentally, physically.

Speaker 1 And then I think just on the court, probably just, man, it's hard to do. It's hard to, the NBA is the hardest league in the world.
Like, it's hard to do anything in the NBA.

Speaker 1 I think that's something that a lot of people, even like hoopers that aren't in the NBA, you know, they say, oh, the NBA is so much space. It's so easy.
Like, it's only easy if you're good as fuck.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 you have to be like one of those guys and you have to have a crazy work ethic, take care of your body, or just be the most talented guy in the world to even put up those type of numbers.

Speaker 1 So when you see guys like Luca making it look all easy or like me or whoever, like, yeah, it looks easy on this, on this, you know, Instagram reel, but like, this shit is hard, man. That's like J.J.

Speaker 1 Reddick said it a couple years ago, which I never really thought about until he mentioned it. He's like, everyone's like, oh, yeah, the NBA, they don't play defense.

Speaker 1 Like, no, the offense is so goddamn good that even if you play perfect defense, like Kevin Durant or Paolo Bancaro, they're going to still score 25. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 No, it's, it's, I mean, you come into it like the best players, like, you're not stopping certain guys from getting, you know, 30 25 30 points like yeah you know you can make it hard and hopefully you know get a couple clutch stops you know when you need to but like you know certain dudes you're not stopping yeah i do love the the mentality though of the average hater online like somebody that's that divorced from reality that they're like dude you suck yeah so if you took like the hat the average hater online and you said lock them in a gym with you and they have uh two days to score one basket and only one of you can leave like if he scores the basket you have to stay in the gym for the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And vice versa.
Do you think you think somebody could score on you in two days? Hell no.

Speaker 1 Average player?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Like, no. You're talking about, like, an average person?

Speaker 5 Yeah, just one basket. No.

Speaker 5 At any time. Like, if you fall asleep, he can dribble up the basket.

Speaker 1 If it's two days straight, no rest.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 if I lose, I got to stay in the rest of my life. Rest your life.
I would not let you go. Yeah, you wouldn't sleep.
No, I wouldn't sleep. Yeah.
Just lock him down? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not even be able to throw it up? You don't think he'd be able to throw one up when you're... No, I just hound him.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I could score on you, I think.

Speaker 1 If you had 48 hours.

Speaker 5 Yeah, 48 hours. But I would trick you.

Speaker 1 No, you'd have to check the ball up every time, though. You can't just go throw it in the basket.
It has to be some type of

Speaker 1 ball at the top.

Speaker 5 I would start to dribble and just throw it behind my head and then hope that you didn't see me about to shoot it. And one of those is going to go in.
One of them. Yeah, no, you probably swapped that.

Speaker 1 What would be a bad time?

Speaker 1 Last Duke question.

Speaker 1 Are you in the Brotherhood?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
What do you have to do to be in the Brotherhood? Like, what do you have to say? Do you have meetings and stuff?

Speaker 1 What goes on?

Speaker 1 It can't be explained, man.

Speaker 1 You got to be there to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 When you are part of the Brotherhood, does anyone ever bring up the name Pete Gaudet?

Speaker 1 No. Okay, all right.
Yeah, I figured that. That's the guy that when Coach K faked an injury because he had a bad team and he made Pete Gaudette take all his losses that season.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't even know what that is. Yeah, I know.
I'll tell you all about

Speaker 5 Pete around

Speaker 1 this much anymore.

Speaker 5 What about JJ? Is he still in the Brotherhood?

Speaker 1 JJ 100%.

Speaker 1 He came to a few games

Speaker 1 when I was there with his sons.

Speaker 5 You guys have a group chat?

Speaker 1 Do we have a group chat? Oh, yeah. Is there a Brotherhood group chat? No.
Okay. No, I mean,

Speaker 1 we have a group chat with my team. With your guys,

Speaker 1 my team,

Speaker 1 the 22 team, yeah. Yeah.
Does it, I mean, when you get to the NBA, do people still care where you went to college? Do they still talk shit or no?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, whenever I go to Charlotte, it's always funny because I got a bunch of people in there who are Duke and they're all loving, showing love.

Speaker 1 And then there's always some UNC fans who are giving me shit about losing. Yeah.
So whenever I go to Charlotte, I'm hearing that.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, different places there'll be a Duke fan or sometimes someone let me know, hey, you guys lost to Carolina. Like, I get that all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Even when you're sitting doing a podcast. Exactly.

Speaker 5 One thing I love about the Magic is just their throwback uniforms. You ever push to be like, hey, can we wear the penny uniforms more?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was sick that they took them away this year.

Speaker 1 Those were like

Speaker 1 that jersey is a staple, I think, just with the magic and obviously the old school, new school vibe. Like, I wish we could have kept wearing those.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got to bring that back. When you moved to Orlando, were you blown away by the majesty of the city?

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, that messed me up a little bit. I'm not going to lie.
I hadn't been to Orlando before. So I'm from Seattle.
So

Speaker 1 in my head, I just thought Orlando's where Disney World is. Orlando Magic, like Orlando's got to be a big city.
And so when I got there, never been, and I was like, wow, this is super small.

Speaker 1 Like way smaller than Seattle.

Speaker 1 And so it was like weird at first.

Speaker 1 But now I'm like, I love it there now. Like it's paradise.
Yeah, it's sunny. Yeah.
Chill. There's like nice little dinner spots and stuff.

Speaker 5 Medieval times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not too much going on. Yeah, yeah.
What you mean?

Speaker 5 They got a great medieval times there.

Speaker 1 Have you been to the Chilies in the airport? No. You haven't? No, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 The airport is rough, though. Well, not the Chilies.

Speaker 5 Chilies is great. You're getting rid of the Chilies, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's an escalator that goes up to it.

Speaker 1 Stairway to heaven. I don't like eating in airports, though.
Nah.

Speaker 1 Go to that Chili's. Change your mind.

Speaker 5 You got to breeze by the medieval time. You've never been to medieval times? No,

Speaker 1 you got to tell me about that.

Speaker 5 Oh, it's dinner, and you also get to watch a bunch of knights joust each other and fight each other with swords and shit. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's a great, great time. Maybe we should do a team dinner there or something.
Yeah, that would rock. Yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 5 That would be awesome. If you do a team dinner at medieval times, you guys are definitely winning the NBA Cup.

Speaker 1 I can guarantee you. That's team chemistry.
Yeah. That's like at the end, they're like, how'd you guys do it? It's like, well, we actually went to medieval times

Speaker 1 like three months ago, and it was awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I did find a couple weaknesses in your game. Oh, I know you said that you're delusional and that there's no weaknesses in your game, but I get a couple.

Speaker 5 One is you currently lead the league in interceptions this year.

Speaker 5 What do you mean? That was a Patrick Mahomes question.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 That was a weird moment, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was, yeah, that was like a, that was like, that like introduced me to the world in a way.
It was weird. It was so weird, man.
Like

Speaker 1 it was crazy. Because I'm on the track, right? And at the time, I'm not even in the NBA yet.
It's the F1 race in the It's the F1 race. And so I'm on the track, and I'm just taking it all in.

Speaker 1 I never, I actually love, I used to love NASCAR, so I always love cars racing and stuff. So the F1 thing was dope to be there.

Speaker 1 And I just remember walking, bro,

Speaker 1 and I just kept hearing Patrick, Patrick, Patrick.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, man,

Speaker 1 I wonder who Patrick is.

Speaker 7 Like, whoever is Patrick is...

Speaker 1 Someone needs to get Patrick.

Speaker 1 And then,

Speaker 1 like, I hear Patrick, and then someone hits me on the back. And I'm like, what? And I look and it's like this camera in the Martin Brundle,

Speaker 1 and this is the camera's in my face, and I'm like, wait, huh? And so I'm not even realizing that this is like a world broadcasted, you know, interview.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking this is like local channel or I don't know what it is. I've never been to F1.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, you know, I'm lost. And he's like, Patrick, you know, what is it about being here? And so I just answer his question.

Speaker 1 And I think he kind of realized like in the middle of the interview that I wasn't who I thought or who he thought I was. And so

Speaker 1 like it was like a 45-second interview and he walked off. I walked off.
And then like right after that, like my phone just started going nuts. So funny.

Speaker 1 Everyone started blowing me like, yo, yeah, you was just on TV, bro. He just thought you were Patrick Mahomes.
He just chased you.

Speaker 1 He just chased you for like a minute, you know, and thought you were Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 And so that was like the running joke. And then the next year at F1, I actually, you know, hung out with Pat Mahomes a little bit.
So we

Speaker 5 was cool yeah that's perfect um all right well paolo this has been awesome hey it's pft here reminding you that boars head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local boars head retailer or you create your own spread at home with boars head premium deli meats and cheeses you are sure to impress your guests my favorites like oven gold turkey or blazing buffalo style chicken paired with their classic Vermont cheddar or creamy Munster cheese are sure to score big and help me elevate my entertainment every time whether it's for a tailgate or a home gating celebration.

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Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 rookie of the year, all-star.

Speaker 1 Do we want to say that you're going to win an MVP at some point? Be the first to report it. Can we be the first to report that Paolo Bencaro is going to win the MVP one year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I definitely think that. Okay, there's exclusive.
Exclusive to we got the exclusive inside scoop, Paolo Bencaro, MVP at some point. Can't tell you a secret picket?

Speaker 5 I think it might be this year. Yeah?

Speaker 1 You thinking that?

Speaker 1 You might still be in the zone. It's not impossible.

Speaker 1 It can happen. It's only game four, but I don't put anything past myself.

Speaker 5 If the season ended today, would you be MVP? I think you would.

Speaker 1 I think you would.

Speaker 1 Four games.

Speaker 5 We'd fucked up four years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be a crazy season. That's a crazy season.
Yeah. Well, we're going to root for you now.

Speaker 1 I'll put the Duke aside. We're going to be Paolo guys through and through, so we got your back.
You just have to come on anytime you're in Chicago.

Speaker 1 We're going to join, and it's perfect because you obviously, I think you went on Rosillo's podcast. He's kind of borderline obsessed with you in a weird way.

Speaker 1 Ryan Rossillo?

Speaker 1 I probably did.

Speaker 1 Is he a magic?

Speaker 1 No, he's Ryan Rossillo. He's lives out in the he lives out in L.A., the ringer.

Speaker 1 He's a Ryan Rossillo. He's a shaved head.
Yeah. Strong guy.

Speaker 1 I fairly white.

Speaker 1 But I've been on his show. Yeah, you've been on his show.

Speaker 1 he like have i've been on his show yeah yes yeah you've been on his show he he would like die for you he he he's a paolo rider dope and so now we're gonna just go on to his block and we're gonna take it over so we'll be with him but we're gonna we're gonna say we were there first okay yeah

Speaker 1 we got your back we'll beat the out of resilience we don't want him to get his stink on you yeah no he i he

Speaker 1 gets obsessed with guys yeah and he's one of your guys so it's good to have like media people there's a couple media people who have have your back i would assume yeah i mean yeah you guys are the ones that reach everybody you know you get people listen to what you guys say man yeah i'm just scary that's a scary thing to think about i'm already willing to go to war for you do you have any enemies out there

Speaker 1 uh none that you got to take care of man all right you let us know yeah yeah if he pops up let us know no i will yeah i will because i don't i mean i'll show you later what i'm i made a little uh card for all my coach k slander facts and i was handing him out new orleans so i can get to work for you you give me the the name.

Speaker 1 Did you make a video doing that? Yeah, I was just handing it out. I think I saw that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. I was handing it to old ladies, and they were just like, whoa, I didn't know Coach K, the Pete got dead.
I didn't know that he did this. Yeah, I was opening minds.

Speaker 5 We're probably the best assholes that you can have in your corner online. I bullied a horse off Twitter one time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They talked fat ass on Twitter. Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 5 Nyquist. Nyquist, that bitch.
Winner?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That fat bitch won the Kentucky Derby. Then he got fat and out of shape and did load management.
Yeah. And didn't even compete in what is the pretense pretense he bowed out of?

Speaker 1 So we got him off. So he didn't have that dog issue.
Yeah. Gave him shit.

Speaker 5 And then he logged offline. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gone.

Speaker 5 So yeah, if you need anybody to log off, you let us know.

Speaker 1 We're on it. We're on it.
That's what y'all do. I got it.
Well, Paolo, thanks so much, man. We really appreciate you coming by.
And anytime you're in Chicago, we'd love to have you on.

Speaker 1 So again, so you're a recurring guest. You actually have to, legally.

Speaker 1 That's the deal. Yeah.
No, once you come on once, you legally have to come on everywhere. Well, I actually enjoyed this, man.
Oh, okay. There we go.

Speaker 1 I I love that. You can rock with this.

Speaker 5 Yeah. If, like, Russillo asked you in the future, like, you've been on part of my take, you guys say, yeah, I know those guys.

Speaker 1 I love those.

Speaker 1 I definitely, definitely. I mean, this is like a whole thing right here.

Speaker 1 And we don't really ask normal questions, I would say, for the most part, because we're stupid.

Speaker 1 So that's how this one goes. That's how these interviews are.
Very dumb. But yeah, thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys, man.
Thank you.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's finish up. We got FAQs.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 I still agree with.

Speaker 2 I don't know if this is a

Speaker 2 follow-up. Hey, PMT team, I noticed whenever an interviewee says great question, whoever didn't ask echoes that statement.
Cracks me up every time. I was curious why/slash when you started doing that.

Speaker 5 Just boosting your boys up. I don't know.
Yeah, we're just... Listen, we're just a team here.
Great question.

Speaker 5 That's a good question. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just lifting up our brothers. It's a hard game out here.

Speaker 5 I don't know what the first great question was.

Speaker 5 We should go back and try to find that out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The origin of the great question.

Speaker 2 What came first?

Speaker 1 Great question.

Speaker 2 Chicken or the egg.

Speaker 5 Great question. Great question.

Speaker 1 The chicken. Great question.

Speaker 2 What's up, boys? You guys have been all over for various sporting events. What is your favorite city to go to for a big sporting event?

Speaker 5 New Orleans.

Speaker 1 New Orleans.

Speaker 1 New Orleans is up there. I always throw Indy in there.
I mean, the Vegas Super Bowl was incredible.

Speaker 1 I would like to do.

Speaker 1 Vegas should have the Super Bowl every year. Yeah, Vegas should have the Super Bowl every year.

Speaker 5 Vegas is good to go to when they have just any good big sporting event because it gives you an excuse just to be in Vegas. It's the perfect.

Speaker 1 You know you're going to have a ton of hotel rooms. You know you're going to have fun.
It's the perfect.

Speaker 2 Tons of food, nightlife, clubs like that. Vegas Super Bowl, we did a bunch of interviews.
Went to the casino. Yep.
Went to the club. The sphere.
Went to dinner. The sphere.

Speaker 1 They have it all.

Speaker 2 F1 is there. F1, yeah.
End of the month. Yep.

Speaker 1 And guess what? It will rock because that's what Vegas does.

Speaker 1 I I think Vegas might be back.

Speaker 5 Did it ever leave?

Speaker 1 I think it left for a little bit, and now it's all the way back.

Speaker 2 I missed the Tunnel of Chaos.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the Tunnel of Chaos. I do too.

Speaker 1 Oh, they should name. I wonder if the F1 track has a tunnel in any of them.
Make it name of the Tunnel of Chaos.

Speaker 5 Just go through it. It brains money.
Yeah, Dana White's just on top of a bridge throwing buckets of cash on the drivers. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The race is going through the strip.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 and it might be a championship race. Hell yeah.
The season's come to an end, so that might be the deciding race. If you're in Vegas, you could see, you know, either, what is it, the Daniel Ricardo.

Speaker 5 Constructors Championship

Speaker 2 or the Individual Championship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Daniel Ricardo also retired.

Speaker 5 You never know. He could be there.

Speaker 1 You never know. Brett Farr.
Danny Rick.

Speaker 2 Lando. He's back.
It's Lando's year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Question not for PFT, but about PFT.

Speaker 2 Has the glimmer of possible competence through eight weeks for the Commanders turned PFT into a completely delusional football fan?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Let's look at the the wins. Giants ass.
Bengals ass. Cardinals ass but frisky.
Browns with the Sean ass. Panthers mega ass.
Bears a loser franchise. Are the commanders good or just an easy schedule?

Speaker 5 It's not for me. I can't answer this.

Speaker 1 I can, yes. I think they're good.

Speaker 2 You can answer it? Well, the question was:

Speaker 2 Has this Commanders team turned PFT into a completely delusional football fan?

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Guess what? The Commanders also, the rest of their schedule's got a lot of ass on it, too.

Speaker 5 There's a lot of ass in the NFL right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have the Giants, the Steelers, those are tough games, or the Steelers would be a tough game. Eagles, tough game.
Then they play the Cowboys, Titans, Saints.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I see the, and then they finish with the Eagles, Falcons, Cowboys. I see a bare minimum,

Speaker 1 another four wins. Easy.

Speaker 5 Don't say bare minimum. Okay.
I don't think I'm delusional. I know the question's not for me.
I don't think I'm delusional. I just think that I know that you have a guy when you got a guy.

Speaker 5 And I think that we got a guy. And I think that this guy...
That's why I said, I'm not saying Super Bowl this season. I'm saying we could win a playoff game this season.

Speaker 5 I don't think we're a Super Bowl team. I think that the Super Bowl window is open because we have a guy and he's the guy and he's on his rookie contract.

Speaker 5 And we've got one of the, I don't know if we have the most cap space, but definitely top five cap space. I think you guys are pretty

Speaker 1 much in the winter two.

Speaker 5 And yeah, and then we're going going to get a new stadium in the next like four years.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I think, I don't think it's delusional to say that I'm existing inside of a Super Bowl window right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're inside. You are inside a Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 I haven't jumped out yet. Next year.

Speaker 5 But the window, based on plans.

Speaker 5 Next year. But we should operate as if the window is open.

Speaker 1 Operate under the window being open.

Speaker 5 The window is cracked right now, and I'm thinking about opening it up. There's a nice draft that's coming through.

Speaker 2 Sup, boys, not an FAQ, but I am a disgruntled Giants fan reliving the same torture season over and over again. Was thinking about this today as now the Jets collapse is official too.

Speaker 2 Do you think if the Jets and Giants combined rosters, they would win the Super Bowl? I like to think yes, but these franchises are so cursed, I don't know anymore.

Speaker 5 Whose helmets do they wear?

Speaker 5 Giants?

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 5 Who's the quarterback?

Speaker 2 Rogers. Okay.

Speaker 5 Who's the coach?

Speaker 5 Table. Rogers.

Speaker 1 Table?

Speaker 1 I mean, Dexter Lawrence on that defensive line would stop a lot of those run problems.

Speaker 5 Malik neighbors finally get the Jets and help a wide receiver?

Speaker 1 I think they could.

Speaker 1 They'd go to the AFC. Well, they'd go to the AFC and NFC Championship game, I guess.

Speaker 1 They could.

Speaker 1 I mean, add Notre Dame in there because Notre Dame has more touchdowns than the Jets and Giants in MetLife Stadium this year. I don't know if you guys saw that stat.

Speaker 5 I did not see it.

Speaker 1 Insult stat going around. Did you see that, memes?

Speaker 1 Did you see that stat? I've seen it. We haven't played many home games.
Yeah. I think it was seven for Notre Dame.
I think it was five for the Jets. Yeah, Jets have five.
And Giants have one?

Speaker 1 I think two. Two.

Speaker 5 Who owns the team in this scenario? Mr. Mara or Mr.
Mara.

Speaker 1 It has to be Mr. Mara.
Has to be Mr.

Speaker 5 Mr. Johnson can't own this team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They'd be Pelichek to coach.

Speaker 1 They'd be pretty good. They'd be pretty good.
They'd be coached for half the game. Yeah, they'd be pretty good.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Anyone? Last one?

Speaker 2 If the Bears or Commanders don't win a Super Bowl until after y'all have retired from the show, will we get a one-night-only live reaction pod?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I'll do it. Guaranteed.
Guaranteed. I'll do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 There should be a window, though.

Speaker 1 Actually, no. No one.
No, no. I mean, 80 years old.
Yeah, 80 years old. Yeah, we'll do it.
We'll do it. Yes.
Just put one up.

Speaker 5 That would be fun. What about if we lose a Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 I think we should do that, too. Also, that.

Speaker 5 Also that. There will be a post-mortem.

Speaker 1 If the Bears or Commanders are in the Super Bowl, you'll get a podcast no matter how old we are.

Speaker 5 That's fair. But

Speaker 5 you have to stay subscribed to the part of my take. Yeah.
Never unsubscribe.

Speaker 1 Just pop it up. A ghost podcast.
Yeah. It's like, oh, I thought these guys were dead.

Speaker 5 Memes is saying something.

Speaker 1 What are you saying, memes?

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Speaker 1 All right, numbers.

Speaker 5 Let me get five. I can take you three.

Speaker 1 You technically said five before I said numbers. So

Speaker 1 anyone would like five, they can take five.

Speaker 1 Would anyone like five? Five. Oh, Max.
I knew you would do that. Three.

Speaker 5 I know you want five.

Speaker 5 I'll take one.

Speaker 1 Hank, what do you got?

Speaker 1 19.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 90.

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