NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Hail Mary, Jameis Is All The Way Back, The Jets Are Dead + World Series Talk

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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 28th.

Week 8. Whoip! Whip! Whip! Some spread.
Let us be the first to wish a happy National Tight Ends Day to all those that celebrate. And a happy Halloween.
In Houston, where this election day our Second Amendment rights are at risk after an AR-15 fired erratically on Sunday. Joe Mixon-Awater kept the Colts' defense sober in a back-and-forth affair as Josh Downs-Goes-Fraser was able to keep the Colts close.
The Colts had a chance to tie it late, but it was Daniil Hunter S. Thompson who went gonzo mode on the struggling Colts QB, ending the game for the Texans.
Texans 23, Colts 20. We go down to Tampa Bay, where Kirk, did you know FDR married his cousins, was wheeling a new dealing.
No one thought he could use his legs, but here he is going for 13 yards, getting Falcons fans out of a great depression. Chris Kyle Pitts cut a body from a long distance away, and it was literally a no scope as the refs didn't have a good angle to see if he scored.
Cade Ottenman Empire made the defense look like turkeys and was a constant to no pull presence in the Falcons end zone scoring twice. The Falcons walk into your trap.
Take over your trap. Falcons 31, Bucs 26.
In Miami where the Dolphins were back to playing two-a-girls-one cup, but this time their quarterback learned how to slide, making sure no one in attendance threw up. Trey McBride in prejudice was a tough read for the Miami defense going for 124 yards on the afternoon.
The Cardinals hung tough, leaving it up to Chad Ryland boy living in the Caribbean to kick the game winner. Hey, whatever happened to those guys, Teach? They sucked each other's dicks, Boom.
Oh, sorry for asking. Cardinals 28, Dolphins 27.
We head to Cincinnati where Max was on the scene. Jalen, skirt skirt, was put into turbo mode after rushing for three touchdowns and adding another in the air.
The rookie corner duo of Snooper DeGene and Quizion Mitchell were playing young and wild and free while forcing the Bengals receivers to drop it like it's hot. After getting blanked last week, Devontae Sam Smith told A.J.
Brown, you know you're not the only one as he went off for 85 yards at a touchdown. Jamar Johnny Chase said, I am the fucking game, pal, when he secured one of the only touchdowns for Cincy, but unfortunately, it was not enough to secure the victory! Eagles 37, Bengals 17.
We head on over to Foxborough where Hank is on the scene for a stunning, huh? Huh? Stunning result. Down to the lighthouse, where the team with the worst record in the NFL And the projected number one draft pick With an unfathomable amount of dissension in the locker room And a banged up offensive line The New England Patriots Went up against the super team New York Jets And the explosive Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams duo In the first quarter Drake May was run man, run man, run man, run man as he scampered for 17 yards and a touchdown.
Tyler Sanklin caught a two-yard touchdown of his own to tie the game. The Jets seemingly had the game wrapped up in the fourth quarter after Braylon Greyjoy Allens scored a go-ahead touchdown with three minutes left, but Ramondre Stevenson said, what is dead may never die, as he scored with 25 seconds left to give the Patriots the win, 25-22.
Over to Detroit, where everybody loves Raymond Kalief, had 190 return yards and a touchdown. Freemason Rudolph and the Tennessee Titans are starting a secret society of suck, and it was on full display against the Lions.

There's a Laporte on the Midwest Bay, and it serves 100 catches a day.

The Lions say, Danny, you're a fine coach.

What a good champ you would be.

But we got Gough, Amon, Ryan, Monty.

We're topsy.

The Lions 50-to to the Titans 14 Out west to Las Vegas where Xavier Drama for your mama Worthy scored early as the Chiefs look to Kareem Pye Hunt the Raiders in Mark Davis' house Travis Scott Kelsey was fiending the end zone As he scored for the first time this season as the Raiders are last row world in the AFC West.

The Chiefs, now 7-0,

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DeAndre Anthony Hopkins,

as they look to eat the NFL's liver with some fava beans and a nice candy.

Chiefs 27,

the Raiders 20. We head out west where Memes and Shane wrote a boomer, and we have no idea how it's going to go.
We go to sunny L.A. where Dennis Allen has had it with these motherfucking Spencer Rattlesnakes in this motherfucking game.
Justin Gatlin Herbert gashed the Saints' thee for 50 rushing yards while J.K. Rowling Dobbins said when Guardian Leviosa and floated his way into the for a touchdown.
Joe Rogan Alt asked Jim Harbaugh how they planned to beat the Saints. Two things I said, Lad McConkie, you're going in.
Blake Grubsex tried to bang 24 guys. Points, I mean, by himself, but came up shy.
Saints 8, Chargers 26. Great job, Beams.
We go down to Raujohn, Maryland at a stadium that appropriately looks and feels like a toilet bowl because it was a matchup of number one and number two. Zach, earth so good.
Come on, baby, make it earth so good. Sometimes gloves don't stick like they should, even though earth't so good.
Joe Tory Taylor earned his Aussie punch stripes, saying, Is this punt returnable? Nar. Nar.
Nar. Nar.
Nar. The Bears dialed up the fridge plate to put the game on ice, but fumbled as Donald Trump Newton stopped the special Russian military operation, saying,

You don't want to do that, Madamir, Iberflues.

The Bears took the lead on a late score,

but then Jaden Daniel Day-Lewis went method acting

as the good old version of Aaron Rodgers

and threw a Hail Mary where Tyreek Stephenson put his left hand up.

The Commanders!

Huh?

18, the Bears, 15.

Standing on the corner,

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Had two touchdown drives, one – two game-winning touchdown drives, one that was not a touchdown drive because we decided to hand the ball off to Doug Kramer. That was a wild call.
That was just insane. Wild.
Watching that, it's tough what Bears fans have to go through with the coaching and uh and the play calling this year that's why you have a fullback that's why you have a guy who's a fullback or yeah just a short yardage running back but you can't expect you can put like a backup offensive lineman in the game and deputize him as a fullback and be like just go block somebody but you never give the ball to that guy unless it's like William Perry well he's even on defense the best way I could describe that play was that was a play that you run when you're up three touchdowns and you're trying some fuck shit not a play that you run when your offense can't do absolutely anything for an entire game and you still have a chance to win the game and you decide to do that that's not the time and place uh but anyway we can get to the coaching and all that shit because I got thoughts on that uh the the Hail Mary happens and I was at first I was just like of course because I kind of we were sitting in the gambling cave White Sox Dave who I love but he was like I'll never apologize for a win after the Bears scored a touchdown to go up one and I was like dude we got a two-point conversion and there's 23 seconds left I thought my best hope at that point was to get a pick two on the two-point yeah oh I thought a field goal was still in play just because you know you can you can get a bomb field goal there's a timeout but I never thought it would be that. And the minute Jaden Daniels got the second – he scrambled and then he got a second scramble in the pocket.
I think you can watch the video and I was like, oh, no, oh, no. Because that means everyone's set up.
Everything's set up. And then to have it be a tip pass, just perfectly land into no brown's hands uh i went in what i would say is just shock and like i went up to my office uh and i was sitting there and my body it felt like i had the fever a fever because my body was like overheating and it was just like numbness all around like my legs were numb um.
And then I finally calmed down. Or not calmed down.
I was calm because I was numb. I finally came to, I want to say.
And then I went online and saw Tyreek Stevenson waving to the Commanders fans and talking shit. And then not doing his job, which was to be the guy covering Noah Brown in that situation, and I went numb again.
Yeah, so Tyreek Stevenson, he was talking shit to Terry McLaurin earlier in the game. I think he got a personal foul.
He did the point through a guy's face mask. That guy's a piece of shit.
And then on the last play, he was definitely lined up on that side of the field, Noah Brown. Didn't see the ball get snapped because he was waving at the fans.
You can see Bears fans pointing to him to tell him to go fucking play the play. Go play defense.
Yeah, good coaching. Go do your job.
That were there. And so then he runs into the big mess of humanity, loses track to Noah Brown, who's the trailing guy.
That's what he's supposed to be doing. That's what Tyreek Stevenson is supposed to be guarding him.
He's supposed to be behind. And yeah, there's just...
He got to the ball first. Yeah, he did.
He put his left hand up. Yeah, it's not where he was supposed to be, though.
He was not supposed to be there. It was a crazy last play.
So, going back, I thought Jaden played really well today. I thought he had an awesome game, an outstanding game.
And the rib – I have a theory that his rib was never actually hurt. I think that after that first run of the Panthers game, the coaching staff was like, hey, Jaden, it's the Panthers.
You just ran easily for 50 yards first play of the game. Let Marcus take over.
Go to the training room. And then all week long, it was all secret.
They couldn't get a picture of the guy. He was like Bigfoot.
You couldn't find him anywhere. And then he gets out there and immediately starts running and running well with the ball.
And he played awesome. The red zone often stinks.
But I think maybe the working theory is just don't bother with the red zone. Just throw the ball from the opponent's 40-yard line every time, and that'll work out.
So he held the ball for 12.7 seconds on the Hail Mary that he threw, which is the longest. I think that's the longest in the history of next-gen stats

to hang on to a ball before throwing a touchdown pass.

And I just want to say, because I saw some Bears fans being like,

what about the holds?

Tyreek Stevenson negates all the holds.

That's who you should be worried about.

There's no – we talk about it all the time that when you have a call

go against you and you do the screen grabs and you put – it doesn't matter. When you have a fucking defensive back not even paying attention to the play, that's where all the blame goes.
And it goes to Iberflus and it goes to everyone on the coaching staff and the shit that they threw out there after a bye week. But, yeah, there's no – you can't be like, hold.
We had a fucking guy who wasn't even playing. Yeah.
I did see a couple of those screen grabs i saw some of those video clips if you're complaining about a minor hold on a hail mary just get over again those are never called it doesn't even matter if it was it could have been the most egregious hold we had a guy not playing yeah you had a guy that was yelling that's the problem yeah it's crazy that's a much much bigger issue but that the last play i thought i thought the commanders were done but he got the ball down field a couple times. He took what the defense was giving him.
And then Tony Romo's dumbass, first of all, he jinxed her kicker. The second before the kick was attempted, he's like, he hasn't missed all season.
He snuck that in and then goes up, misses the field goal. And then Tony was like, I think they should put in Marcus Mariota to throw this Hail Mary.
Fuck you, Tony. you're wrong tony's very wrong it was short it was yeah it was a little bit short uh but it it ended up working out and i think that that is probably the happiest i've been this is actually how sad my life as an nfl fan has been i think that play that that i just got to witness today that is my happiest moment as as an NFL fan since I've started watching football.

Because the Redskins won a Super Bowl when I was like six.

I don't remember that.

I remember the celebration afterwards.

I maybe remember a little bit of it.

But since then, you know what my second favorite memory is probably?

Besides, obviously, Dan Snyder selling the team.

I don't count that as football, though.

It's off the field.

On the field.

Monday Night Football.

RG3.

Monday Night Football was cool this year. But say no i would say winning a playoff game in tampa we beat chris sims and we won 17 to 10 i think mark brunel had like 35 yards passing that game that until until today was my best football memory and then this was just it was sometimes no matter how fucked up you are as an organization sometimes there are there are guys and i think that jayden daniels is one of those guys that he completely changes everything like completely makes people take you seriously because he's that special and that good i'm very it's like when uh north korea got the atomic bomb it's like yeah you guys are a ridiculous organization, but now we have to kind of respect you, give you some space.
He's my atomic bomb, and he's so fucking good, and I love watching him play. I'm just a loser.
I don't really know. I mean, I'm happy for you.
I'm a loser. I've always been a loser.
I'm a loser. I don't – this was a terrible football weekend start to finish.
I thought it was going to be bad. It somehow was way worse.
And it was somehow we talked about it on Friday being like, what would get the best ratings? What would get the most people watching? This is it. Yeah, that that ending was it.
That was a dog shit game by the Bears. They're they're a joke.
The Eberflus comes out of the bye week. I don't even know what they did during the bye week there feels like it was no game plan Caleb was bad I I'll I'll save for my positive spins for the end that you guys will think I'm crazy but that we're I'm a loser and that was loser football and Eberflus should be ashamed of himself and Shane Waldron should be ashamed of himself and it's like that's a game that was as ugly as ugly could be the defense kept you in that game they they fucking kept on holding the the commanders to to field goals and and you you somehow have a chance to win it and then you just blow it because the guy's waving to the crowd and talking shit instead of doing his job that's a joke that's a that's a top-down thing like that's not i know tyreek stevenson fucked up and he actually apologized on twitter after but like that's a coaching thing i because he's a good player that's a coaching thing and i i'm sick of him i'm sick of losing games that you should be able to win and this was a game that we probably shouldn't even be able to win but we somehow got in the spot where we could win it and then it was just that so i'm a loser i'm happy for you though you got the atomic bomb thank you but before we started taping we started discussing a little bit then we realized let's not say any of this before we start getting behind a microphone i told big cat i felt bad for him because it's a tough way to lose a game and then he was like don't say you feel bad for me you don't feel bad for me he's right i don't think i actually do feel bad no it's something you just said but yeah but i i can also acknowledge that's a very, very tough way to lose a football game.
No, it's like when a co-worker's grandparent dies, you're like, I'm sorry for your loss. I guess I am sorry for your loss, but I've never met them.
You're just saying it. I understand.
I'm sorry that you're going through it. It is what it is.
It's just like I'm numb to it.

It was in like this. There's a lot of season left, but that also is going to I'm convinced that's going to be the game that's going to I'm going to look back and be like, oh, they missed the playoffs because of this.
And it's just it sucks. It fucking sucks.
And tattoo and a tattoo, which that's just like a cherry on top. And I was saying before, I was going to maybe just get my like kids initials or something but then then i'm like oh yeah why'd you get that oh because of a hail mary i'm not because tyreek stevenson's a fucking idiot yeah so i don't know what i'm gonna get how rattled were you how distraught were you before the hail mary because you know you guys just went through the whole recap.
The Bears were about to win that game. Somehow, as good as the Commanders played and somehow as good as Jane Daniels played, you guys had 12 points.
Bears defense is good. And we have a shitload of starters out, too.
I said that after the second field goal. I was like, this is actually not good.
Our offense has been great, but it's not good that we have six points after those. 12 points is not great offense.
Yeah, that's not great offense. No, I thought that our offense was moving the ball really, really well.
We had a drop touchdown, and we had two illegal man downfield penalties that backed us up off what should have been like short red zone opportunities. It wasn't really the offense in terms of, like, getting the ball out and getting guys open and all that.
It was making stupid penalty mistakes like we have in the past and just shooting ourselves in the foot. What were you going to say, Max? Don't say great.
Because, I mean, a penalty is not great. Yeah, it is.
Pass is part of offense. And penalties are part of offense.
I mean, if you look, I don't have the stats in front of me, but if you see how many yards we had in the first half, I think that we had great offense in the first half.

I want to say we had like 200.

But you didn't score touchdowns.

What, 250 yards of offense?

And 12 points.

Great offense to score touchdowns.

It was not good.

Like the red zone was actually.

My question was how distraught were you before the Hail Mary?

I was pretty distraught because it was a game that you should win based on how we played.

And the fact that we just let them hang around and let them hang around until the very end.

I'll see you next time. How distraught were you before the Hail Mary? I was pretty distraught because it was a game that you should win based on how we played.

And the fact that we just let them hang around and let them hang around until the very end.

Honestly, I was very, very upset at that point.

Because when the Bears had the ball with two minutes left,

I was like, here's what's going to happen.

They're going to score a touchdown,

and we're going to have 25 seconds left on the clock.

And then you get the ball with 25 seconds,

too much time for Jane Daniels.

I didn't think he could do it i thought that was impossible i don't know i'm a loser i mean i the bears defense played great they played great because they had no help the the bears offense did nothing never never sustained a drive and whose was the hell was the commander's offense greater than the bears defense was great i think so i don't i both played great. They didn't score touchdowns.
Who played greater? The Bears' defense kept them in this game. The Bears' offense did not do shit for three quarters.
Not a single thing. Where they didn't get first downs, they were giving bad field position, they were just doing everything bad outside of turning the ball over, and and the bears defense just kept on answering the bell and making sure that they kept it a one score game for a long time a two score or you know it was a two score game for a little bit but like that that game if the bears defense doesn't play the way they do it could it would have been a blowout because the bears offense just didn't do shit for literally three quarters they kept them out of the end zone, yeah.
They did a very good job of that. That's great defense to keep them out of the end zone.
Yeah. Great defense and great offense at the same time.
I refuse to say great offense. 12 points is not great offense.
Listen, I agree. You need to score touchdowns, and inside the red zone, that was very, very bad.
Our offense was very bad inside the red zone i'll say that we were great in between the 20s i'm i'm okay i'm okay with you i'm okay with you saying that we're like all-time great in between the 20s now and then you get in the 20 and you become all-time bad but that's great defense that's when the yeah defense became great it was just great football it's funny that we defense became great. It was just great football.

It's funny that we keep saying great because it was not great football.

No, it was bad football.

It was a bad game.

It was a very boring game until the last 10 minutes of it.

So here's the crazy part. This is for Bears fans only.

Listen, Caleb was bad for three-quarters dog shit.

The offense was so, so bad. I don't know what know what again I don't know what the bye week was for when you didn't even have like it felt like there was no flow it felt like there was no like hey here's a mismatch Cole Komet wasn't they didn't target Cole Komet ever the offensive line is a disaster I understand that everyone always uses that as an easy excuse it is obviously a problem and we had more injuries on it but it is what it is like we know the offensive line sucks it's not like you went into this game being like oh our offensive line is going to all of a sudden be good Caleb what he did in the fourth quarter is why I'm not I'm not selling any of my stock in him I know people will be like he sucks he's a bum he's a bust I got about a billion tweets of that I don't care what he was doing in the fourth quarter that throw to DJ Moore hanging in there where he's got no time getting killed uh yeah I'm not and then he threw that that like sidearm underhand one I'm not going to change my opinion on Caleb Williams I did change my opinion well I didn't change my opinion I just reaffirmed my opinion that this coaching staff is a joke and we need to get rid of them as soon as possible because it's like they're they're they're a joke they're a joke like that's a bye week you come out of a bye week looking like that i don't know what the fuck that was so uh and the doug kramer handoff is just an all-time all-time what's taking other handoffs no he's been so this all goes to week three against indianapolis week three against indianapolis we had the we had the uh uh set of a series on first and goal where shane waldron called just terribly he called like a wildcat play he called an option play to the short side he just did terrible job play calling and the offense went and was like dude you gotta you gotta fix this next couple weeks every time we got on goal line it was the same thing just run the ball with roshan up the middle doug kramer would come in as a fullback so he was like hey here's my new wrinkle i'm gonna hand the ball off to doug kramer that was and it's like it's i actually feel bad for doug kramer because like dude you're you're not running back you you put in that spot.
Again, that's a play where if you're, like, trying, if you're up by, and now we're in fantasy land, if you're up by three touchdowns against the Packers, you're like, ha-ha, Doug Kramer. It's the fridge.
But it's just, it was so stupid, and I just, this team is just, they constantly lose games like this, and it's just a joke of a staff, and the bye week just – but I'm not – I'm a little bit more – I'm not as upset as I was right in the moment after. The defense will keep us in pretty much every game.
You saw it today. The defense is going to keep us in every game.
Caleb was really bad for three full quarters, and if he plays even like B-minus football, I think we win this game before we even get to the hail mary he didn't he played d minus f plus and then in the fourth he played like a minus football and he was great and it was too little too late and and tyreek stevenson so yeah i'm a loser the big question i had about the commanders is their defense because their defense has sucked like when i say sucked i mean like bottom two bottom three in the league at times today the defense did play great first half great defense by the commanders i thought that whatever dan quinn's doing he's figured something out they don't have they don't have the guys they don't have the talent on defense but they're playing really really hard the scheme is adjusted because dan knows what kind of people he has in the secondary he He knows what they're good at, what they're not good at.

They're not good at having Emmanuel Forbes on the field,

and they're not good at a lot of other stuff initially, and now somehow they've managed to turn around

and become a pretty decent defense.

So I hope that part of it keeps up.

Well, yeah, I mean, you said I think in the middle of the game,

you're like, where's this pass rush coming from?

And I was like, it's the Bears' offensive line, cannot block. I mean, we had a couple more injuries.
It's just, it's a mass unit. And it's just, it's ugly.
It's ugly right now watching their offensive line try to block. And yeah, I don't know.
I'm a loser. I don't know what else to say.
I'm a loser. Torrey Taylor was awesome.
Torrey Taylor is awesome. He should get Pepsi Rookie of the Week.
There's really good players on the Bears team, and they just can't. This was a game that was so ugly, and they somehow found a way to persevere, and then that happens.
So inexcusable. Because that was going to be an all-time how the fuck did they win that game playing as bad as they did offensively and proving my point of like, hey, this defense is going to basically allow Caleb Williams to have games

where he looks like a rookie for three quarters.

But then that happens, and then it's all for lost.

So I don't know.

I mean, it was an insane end to the game.

And when we had Jaden on the podcast back in, I think that was about a year ago,

Memes, what did you ask him?

Ask him how far he can throw. Ask him how far he can throw.
And what did he say? He said about 70. That's awesome.
That's so good. And I've watched that play probably like, I'm going to say conservatively 60 times, and I've watched every iteration of that play from every fan angle, from every TV angle.
I watched the Spanish version of it where they had it on Telemundo.

The announcer's doing that call.

I even watched the dots.

That's how sick that play was,

is I watched the dot thing that everybody posts about.

They act like it's super interesting.

Did they show the before snap dot?

Yeah, they have it at the snap.

They don't have before when he's waving to the crowd?

I don't know if they had...

There was no hand on the dot that was waving. But dot talk, even the dots were great on that play.
I'm going to watch that play probably 100 times tomorrow and for the rest of my life. It was shocking.
I've literally never experienced joy like that watching a football game. Isn't that sad? Yeah.
But it's kind of awesome. But I'm happy for you.
you thank you hank do you guys have any other questions max has a question you can tell well no i had no questions i was just watching big cat during that i was i mean i'm a loser i don't know what else to say i'm happy for pft i just didn't come at my expense but like it is what it is like we're like we're the bears are a loser organization. Like, I think Caleb Williams can change that, but this is another reminder of, like, and I just, I can't get over the coaching staff and their plan out of a bye week.
A bye week. Like, you've got to look better than that out of a fucking bye week.
And it's just, it's just insanely frustrating. Insanely, insanely frustrating.
Because, like, those games, the games where you don't play good enough to win, but then you find a way to win, that's when those are the games. You've got to have a couple of those if you want to go to the playoffs.
And they had it. And then Tyreek Stevenson decided to fucking talk shit to the crowd.
And the momentum of winning a game you should have lost. Yeah, right.
Versus losing a game. Right, it would have been an all-time, how did we win this game? Holy shit, this defense, we're ready to roll.
Let's go face the NFC North. Yeah, right.
And now it's just like, okay, now next week against the Cardinals, who are looking very good, that's a must-win game, knowing what you have in the schedule. You just can't have that.
You just can't fucking do that. I thought there was a chance, because you did go upstairs for a while that you might have just done the michael scott and just like walked to the train tracks and tried to get on a train for a minute i was thinking about just going home yeah yeah it was it was an extended an extended well i was doing i was prepping for the show but yeah i was i definitely i definitely was like what if i just go home like what what would change I just go home and we just don't do a pod? There'd be a lot of very angry people out there.
Yeah, no, I'm here. I'm here facing the music.
It sucks. It just sucks.
Tyreek Stevenson, what the fuck are you doing? Matt Eberflus, what are you doing? Shane Waldron, what are you doing? It's very strange because I'm so, so happy, and I understand why Big Cat's not. and it's just, it's a weird, it's a strange because i'm i'm so so happy and i understand why big cats not and it's just it's a weird it's a weird vibe i i mean look you should be happy that was that was incredible all-time win i i'm a little upset at the our offense was great comment but that's fine we moved the ball in a great score touchdown i which i said i said that the red zone offense was very very bad atrocious worse than atrocious i can admit caleb williams sucked for three quarters our red zone he played great was disgustingly bad today disgustingly bad i never want to see it again but i do think that the offense played really really well i thought that in the first half, they moved the ball so well.

It just sucks that we couldn't score.

Caleb Williams had two game-winning drives.

I guess that's the only positive I'd have,

and neither of them counted for game-winning drives.

It's fucking stupid.

That was literally something I said to myself.

I was like, oh, yeah, he had two game-winning drives.

No, he didn't.

He actually had none because we didn't win,

and also we handed the ball off to Doug Kramer that sounds like a guy who's like 50 he would have been a legend he was a legend when he was blocking for Rochon the last couple of weeks everyone loved it isn't he the guy that's from Chicago too yeah yeah he's Hinsdale it's just it's fucking the whole thing is he the Yale guy no no I don't think Doug Kramer went to Yale different guy I don't think so uh I'm pretty how much percent Kramer went to Illinois that's Waldron's fault right yeah is that how much what percentage do you blame Eberflus for I blame Eberflus a lot more for the Tyreek Stevensonson than i do uh the doug kramer waldron's the doug kramer he's calling the plays he's the one who installed that in the bye week and was like watch this it was fuck him up it was a genuinely insane play call to make in that situation it's third down i mean it's third down you get two two shots to run the ball up the up the gut for a touchdown why why hank did do you see Dan Quinn do the double fist pump? Mm-hmm. I get it now.
It's perfectly normal. I get it now.
In a moment of just pure ecstasy, the double fist pump, it occurs. It's like going into fetal position happens when you're afraid naturally.
The opposite of that is the double fist pump. When you're so pumped, that's the only thing you can do is two pumps the last two things i had one is uh they had a a sideline view of caleb uh watching it happen i don't know if you guys caught it but like the funniest part not funny but keenan allen was just smiling because he's he's a charger and he was just like dude this happens to me every time.
This is the charger shit right here. And the other thing is, and again, I know that people are going to call me crazy and stupid, but it's for Bears fans only.
I'm not changing anything, I think, about Caleb Williams. He had a really bad first three quarters and a really good fourth quarter, and you win games in the fourth quarter, and he did enough in the fourth quarter to win that game, and then the defense which did keep him in the game had a lapse in Tyree Stevenson that just fucking sucks so yeah anything else I'm also just mad that memes got to smile on my face because memes we're gonna get to the Jets he is he he was his season is over his team is a a disaster.
But memes for everyone who knows, for people who want to know how this works, memes literally just got like his quota for like views and clips and everything for the year based on that game. He's like a cop at the end of a month, just sitting there getting people on speeding tickets.
He literally could just be like, see these numbers, boom. and like half of them are from the Hail Mary and he's like where's my race I think it's interesting that memes doesn't tag us in no because it wouldn't get the same amount of interaction yeah but I know that I've been tagged by memes when when I'm at my lowest points after bad loss he'll tag the fuck out of you but it's out of you.
Find him. I did this with Hank last month.
I did this with Hank last month, and it was the summer of Hank, and everything was positive. So show me yours.
I love this. They shout your failures.
They whisper your accomplishments memes. I love this meme.
It's getting sucked off. What do you mean? But that's...
By who? By everybody online. And then you come in and you're like, oh, I feel bad for you guys.
You don't have my... Yeah, that was bullshit.
Oh, don't do that. Don't do that memes.
Don't do that memes. You are getting sucked off.
You are. You've been getting sucked off.
I've been getting buried. Memes are getting buried.
Yeah, it was a great, great afternoon for me. For sure.
A million percent. But you don't have to say you feel bad for anyone.
I retracted that. Because that's a...
I do acknowledge it. It's a shitty way to lose a football game.
I feel bad for you. it's a bad way to lose a football if i may pft i know you're not used to winning like you're this is the greatest accomplishment of your life it's like a week six regular season game win yep it's not week six if you're if you're a real you know if you're gonna have that winning mentality and you're gonna actually like make uh you know progress in the playoffs yeah you should be mad after.
You should be happy with the win, but you should not be like, we played great and we had a great offense. You guys lost that game.
You guys lost the game where the Bears played dog shit. I'll be coachable.
And you guys lost. I need to learn.
And you got lucky. But for you to be like, oh, it's great, best day of my life, you got to think about some of the things you got to fix.
I know. I definitely do.
But you should enjoy it. Like I said, after the Bengals game, I'm working on building a personal winning culture for myself.
There's a lot I don't know about winning. I don't know how to handle it.
I can't act like I've been there before. I've never been there before.
So thank you. To have Hank is like my shaman guiding me through this trip on how to deal with success is very helpful.
What are you going to say, Max? Do we remember a conversation that we had in the past with a fan of a shitty organization saying that they feel bad for the other people? No, PFT did a billy to me. He did.
He billied me. No, I said it's a bad way to lose a football game.
I didn't billy you. You did say I feel bad.
No, no. Billy would have been saying I feel bad for you.
But am I not allowed to actually see that my friend Big Cat is just going through the worst shit ever? No, I don't care about you. And be like, this sucks for him.
But it's at your expense. Yeah, you should be.
No, that's what makes you so weird. I don't need you to say you feel bad for me.
I feel bad for me enough. Okay.
More than enough. Okay.
I'm just acknowledging that it's a bad way to lose a football does hurt when you're like i feel bad for you that's a heart that's hurtful okay you should be saying i feel bad for us that we almost lost you yeah okay all right memes what are you gonna say you just keep billing don't you don't call me it's good don't you dare for a minute it's just No, honestly, I wasn't trying to say it in that way. I was saying that it's just a shitty thing.
It's a shitty thing. You don't have to say anything.
Our teams played each other. But you don't think it's a shitty thing.
You think it's great. Our teams played each other.
That's what happens. No, I'm happy that it happened, but I'm saying it's a shitty way to lose a football game.
But I don't need you because we played each other. There's only going to be one winner.
No, I absolutely would not take it back. After, when the Hail Mary landed, I got up, I like freaked out for a second.
Then I looked around just trying to find somebody that was also a commander's fan and then I realized I'm in Chicago. I think Eddie was crying.
No, Eddie, we all just, we ran. All of us ran.
Eddie was gone. Chief was gone.
White Sox Dave, I think, got out of there so fast because he knows what he did by saying, I'll never apologize for a win with 23 seconds left. Me, memes, and Max were popping confetti.
I turned around. I was running around like Jimmy V looking for somebody to hug and nobody would hug me.
And then I look back and Hank, memes, and Max were all had the same expression, just like their mouth open, just like staring at me.

And I was just like, hey, guys, this is good.

And then my mom called, and she was like, I think I'm going to have a stroke.

That was amazing.

I was like, cool, Mom, don't have a stroke.

I have another thing that I would like.

You know that's like a lucky play, right?

Oh, yeah, 100%.

Okay.

And the pass was short.

And the pass was short.

That's just a lucky play.

Any quarterback can make that throw.

Well, Jaden made it. I know.
But he also did it short. That's just a lucky play.
Any quarterback can make that throw. Well, Jaden made it.

I know.

But he also did it.

But it's just a lucky play.

He's my A-bomb.

It was short of the end zone.

Everything about the guy.

I don't know what it is.

Everything about him.

I love him.

That play was way less about Jaden Daniels and way more about the Bears

and competency as an organization.

Not to mention the holds.

The holds do not fucking matter, Hank. It was Tyreek Stevenson being a fucking idiot.
All time, all time stupid, stupid play. I went from being very upset with the team to just being like, this is heroin.
No, you deserve it. I mean, it was a great moment for you.
All right. Should we go to the rest of the games? Did we get enough blood? Don't let memes divide us.
I'm not. I have not said I wasn't.
The only thing I disagreed with that you've said so far was that you had great offense. That was the only thing.
That doesn't really check out when the Bears were able to hold you out of the end zone until a Hail Mary. But everything else, you guys, you guys, like, deserve to win that game.
The Bears did not deserve to win that game. They fucking sucked for the majority of that game.
The vast majority. That would have been a lucky win the other way if the Bears had done it.
It would have been like, how the fuck did they win that game? Because they were a joke. Again, off a bye week.
What did they do during the bye week? Like, Andy Reid gets off a bye week and he just kills people that's what happens Matt Iberfluss gets off a bye week and they run dog shit plays for for for three quarters which I guess Matt Iberfluss is a defensive coordinator or you know he's he's in charge of defense so kudos to him you know great job dude I if he wants to be defensive coordinator next year when Ben Johnson's our head coach, I'll be fine with that. He can keep his parking spot.
And then he had tone-deaf things after the game where he was just like, there's a lot of positives to take from this. Shut the fuck up, dude.
There's no positives. You lost in the most embarrassing fashion possible.
Just go up there, take your fucking medicine, and realize that yet again you lose a game that you should win because you're just not prepared as a football team. Guess the line, Cardinals.
I mean, the Cardinals are good. Whose line is it anyway? They're not top of the NFC West anymore.
Where's the game? It's in Arizona. Whose line is it anyway? Brought to you by DraftKings.
Cardinals minus one. I'm going to say Cardinals minus three.
Pifty keeps winning. Cardinals minus one.
Okay. All right, let's get to the rest of the games where we can have some fun because we do have fun to talk about.
It was a great witching hour. Browns 29, Ravens 24.
Jameis Winston is 1-0 as a Browns starter. Jameis Winston is the fucking best.

Jameis Winston broke the 20-point mark for the Browns.

Jameis Winston had the last two offensive plays for the Browns was the full Jameis Winston experience

where he tried to throw an interception to Kyle Hamilton,

and then the next play was like, fuck it, 38-yard bomb to Cedric Tillman. Touchdown game.
Yeah, that was an easy pick that Hamilton had. He bobbled it like three or four times.
Yeah. He was playing keepy-uppy with the bluey game.
James got a little short memory. He gets back there and he's like, fuck it.
I'm going to gun it. And, man, he threw the ball all around today.
I think there were four guys. Yeah, four guys with 60-plus yards on the Browns.
He was slinging it. He was slinging it.
Tillman. Tillman is a player that's on the Browns that everybody just completely forgot about.
Yeah. They had Cooper that had to eat, too.
But, yeah, Jameis was awesome from the second he stepped foot inside that stadium until the second he left. He just delivered.
He delivered everything that you want from Jameis.

He had not one, but two awesome banger pregame speeches.

He had obviously what he did in the game,

which is just throw the fuck out of the ball and be like,

I'm going to find Njoku down there,

and I'm going to throw it as hard as I can at his hands.

And then after the game, he name-checked Eminem and just quoted Eminem in his post-game interview.

He said, let's see, he said, there's a white boy from Detroit that I really admire named Eminem and just quoted Eminem in his post-game interview. He said, there's a white boy from Detroit

that I really admire named Eminem.

He said, you only got one shot.

Do not miss your chance to blow this opportunity

last once in a lifetime.

It was just pure Jameis.

It was the best. The Browns

look like a competent football team

and

it's crazy because Jameis, Deshaun Watson already had the worst contract in football probably in history and uh louisiana purchase yeah maybe louisiana purchase and jamis winston today made it somehow even worse because it just shows that the browns are not a bad football team they just had had Deshaun Watson as their quarterback. It's so crazy.

The last seven games that Deshaun Watson didn't play,

six of those last seven games, the Browns had a 300-yard passer.

And the seventh was week 18 last year when they started Jeff Driscoll

because they had already clinched the playoff.

So every single time they don't start Deshaun Watson, their offense works. And then when Deshaun Watson plays, they can't score 20 points and they look like dog shit.
It just further proves how horrifically awful the Deshaun Watson contract was. But Jameis, you have Jameis.
Like the Browns, Jameis can do anything. Everyone plays like a half step faster on both sides of the ball.
Yeah, the defense is fine. I can't tell if it's Jameis or if it's not Deshaun.
I think it's probably a combination of the two. Jameis is like the ultimate interim coach, but for a quarterback.
It's the perfect combo. He's the best interim quarterback.
And then you step in for Deshaun, and then everybody's just so much happier to be at work. Yes.
They work a little bit harder. Yes.
And it was also Halloween week for Myles Garrett, who showed up dressed like the Terminator. Yeah, white face.
Yeah. Well, robot face.
Robot face. Yeah, he had a makeup artist come over for, like, how long did it take? An hour? I don't know.
Two hours? All just for that walk. Just for that walk into the stadium.
But good for Cleveland. I'm happy for Cleveland fans.
And this proves our point that Jimmy Haslam should be investigated for crimes, given that he not only gave that contract out, but then forced Kevin Stefanski to play Deshaun Watson as long as he did. Jimmy Haslam should be investigated for point shaving.
Yeah, and now the Browns, yeah, their offense looked competent, and James was throwing around. I know their offensive line got healthier.
Nick Chubb, he didn't have a monster game, but he feels like he's getting back into health. And I mean, the Browns are probably too far deep in the hole uh to get out of it but i would just love to see jamis go on a little bit of a run here like i would love to see jamis who they got next i think they actually play i think they play our chargers yeah they do so we're gonna have to root we're gonna we're gonna root for whoever we're gonna root for jamis and the chargers win Jameis ball out session.
Yeah, so this is from our very good friend, Jameis1of1. You knew he'd be all over this.
Oh, of course. He says, since 2021, due to a torn ACL, broken back, and ruptured perennial tendon, Jameis Winston has had just nine healthy starts.
Here's what he's done. Oh, I love this.
Sean Payton, 5-2, 15 touchdown two touchdowns no picks with Stefanski one and oh with three touchdowns and no interceptions he's seven and two with 20 total touchdowns and three interceptions let's play a game real quick because this is Jameis needs to be a starter in the league next year week one just looking at the teams going through it Bill's obviously not

Dolphins, I mean, if Tua gets another. Yeah, I could see him.
Yeah. Patriots, Drake May.
Jets, they should absolutely sign Jameis. That would be an upgraded quarterback.
Steelers, Steelers. Yeah, Steelers.
That would be, I mean, Jameis would ball there. I mean, he's the exact opposite of every quarterback that Steelers have had in recent memory.
Yeah. Colts would be great.
Yeah. Titans would be great.
Mm-hmm. Raiders.
Like, there's a lot of team. Giants.
Just add Jameis. Panthers.
Saints. Go back to New Orleans.
Yeah. Like, just add Jameis.
It's instant offense. It's that that simple add Jameis and have fun as for the Ravens uh it was a weird game because they like the Ravens offense the Browns defense played well I the Ravens offense was still good they just felt like they dropped so many balls Rashad Bateman even that that ball where he was just standing there by himself and he's actually pointing to the sun he like right after I love uh and it was like one of those weird Lamar games where just a couple like he played well but like there was a couple plays a couple third downs that just didn't whether it be a drop ball or the pass rush so like I'm not worried about the Ravens but it was one of those very Ravens game.
So much so that the Ravens now, since 2022, that is their eighth loss when leading inside two minutes of the fourth quarter. Yeah, they're the worst team to close out a game.
It was so Ravens. You walk away from that game, and you're like, no, the Ravens aren't bad, but they just have these weird games where it's just like i don't know what happens they they they move the ball and everything works and their their secondary is bad they're also very injured because they had marlon humphrey and nate wiggins out but their secondary is bad i mean eddie jackson was getting abused by cedric tillman uh but the ravens i'm not worried about it was just a very ravens game yeah and also they've got a kicker that's washed up.
Yeah, Justin Tucker. This game might go different if he hits that kick, right? You never know.
Yeah. Lamar can only beat the NFC.
That's what people are saying. He is a little washed up.
Who do the Ravens have next week? They're probably going to beat the fuck out of someone, right? Let's see. The Ravens have...
The Ravens have to have the two weirdest losses. The Broncos.
Oh, that's actually going to be a tough game. Yeah, the Ravens...
They've lost the Raiders and they've lost the Browns. All over the map.
They lost to the Chiefs barely. They lost to the Raiders and they lost to the Browns.
Yeah, and then they kill everyone else. So I'm not worried about them, but it was just a very Ravens loss.
And I'm just happy for Jameis. I'm very happy for Jameis.
Yeah, I'm happy for Kevin. I'm happy for football.
Somebody said that Jameis should host family feud, right? Is that what you guys were saying? That'd be great. Jameis should host every game show.
Yeah. He would be a fortune.
He'd be a great. Yeah.
He's the next Steve Harvey. Love is blind.
He would be great. Call her daddy.
Yeah. She's supposed to every show.
Is that a game show? It can be can't be um you can win millions of dollars the uh so the rave or sorry the browns i i am happy for kevin stavanski as well just because he gets to be like hey i'm not a bad coach i was just forced to start sean watson yeah i mean kevin stavanski if he was unemployed if he got fired there would be like seven teams that would want to hire him i'd take him most teams would try to fire their coach that they weren't planning on firing if it meant they could get Kevin Stefanski, if he was unemployed, if he got fired, there would be like seven teams that would want to hire him. I'd take him.
Most teams would try to fire their coach that they weren't planning on firing if it meant they could get Kevin Stefanski. Kevin Stefanski, come to Chicago.
And Vrabel. Good for Vrabes.
Yeah. Was he on the sidelines today? I don't know.
Because I think he was on the sidelines last week too and he told us in the offseason that he wasn't going to be at... I think for home games he is.
No, I thought he said that he wasn't going to go to the stadium. Oh.
And then he was there last week. He can't stay away from football.
And he was there this week. Jameis and Vrabes.
He can't stay away from football. Loving that.
Okay, next game. Eagles 37, Bengals 17, Max.
The Eagles are back. That was a shit kicking.
That was a shit pumping. What do you want to say? There's not really much to say.

It was a domination on all fronts.

Jalen Hurts played great.

Jalen Hurts has been playing great the past couple games.

He has.

He ran for three touchdowns.

He had that dime to Devontae Smith.

I think he only had like four incompletions in the whole game,

and it was all in the first quarter.

The second half, he was nine for nine, 150 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah.
Yeah, they look good. Really good.
They look really good on offense. And I think the Vic Fangio defense is starting to work.
That's the big thing. I think it takes a little bit for the guys to get used to the new scheme, but I think that they're – I think they are.
Cooper De playing slot as chain has changed the defense that is awesome that play uh that stick he had on jamar chase on the fourth and one was huge incredible that also was the bangles are in deep deep water now they they couldn't run the ball today which credit to the the eagles defense but that was like you're fourth and one and you're doing a swing pass to Jamar Chase. It's a pretty good sign you're not feeling comfortable about your run game.
The Bengals, I'm never going to give up on Joe Burrow, but it does feel a little bit like Monty Python where he's like every game afterwards. He said today that 10 wins gets you in, so they got to win seven out of nine.
And that's doable yeah you never know but it's just gonna keep going keep having to do saturn saturn math yeah bangles are gonna be taunted absolutely haunted by the uh in the hunt graphic later on this season yes because they probably will win enough games to be mathematically not eliminated and they're gonna just keep being like well maybe maybe if i fuck around with the ESPN playoff machine for two hours at a time,

I can figure out a combination that gets us there.

But yeah, they've lost too many must wins.

They've lost like three must wins,

which is, I think that's one, two.

You can lose two must wins and still win.

But yeah, I feel like they're cooked at this point.

Now, Max, grade this statement.

Is it the Bengals' last two wins

against the Browns and the Giants, now it now it's like oh that was fool's gold or is now the are the eagles now swept up in the fool's gold i thought because the bangles are just as bad i i said that to somebody i was like the bengal to the bengals think the bangles are really bad yeah because you just ran the gauntlet of just you just beat all the Giants, the Browns with Deshaun, and the Bengals think. The Bengals are really bad.
Yeah, because you just ran the gauntlet of you just beat all the Giants,

the Browns with Deshaun, and the Bengals,

who the Bengals could only beat the Browns with Deshaun and the Giants.

And then we play the Jags next week.

Yeah, you never get an answer.

I think the Eagles are good.

I think there are a lot of bad teams in the NFL right now.

The AFC, I think I saw the stat.

I think 37% of the AFC has two wins or less. Are you serious? Yeah.
Let's see. That's actually crazy.
Yeah, look. There's the entire AFC East except the Bills has two wins.
The Browns, the Jaguars, Titans, and the Raiders. So that's three, four, that's seven teams.
What's crazy is this game was pretty close until, like, what, 10 minutes left in the third quarter? Yeah, the fourth quarter just switched. And then it was all Eagles starting at, yeah, for most of the third quarter and all the fourth.
I think it was a tie. It was a tie game in the third.
And then we started thinking about what if they tied again and we make it three out of five ties between these two teams. And then the Eagles just said, no, we're just going to throw deep.
I mean, having Devontae Smith back is so huge. He's amazing.
And then you just have Saquon, too. That can just – like, he rushed for over 100 yards today, and I feel like he didn't even do anything.
Yeah, he felt like a non-factor. It was just a quiet, let me go get 22 carries, 108 yards.
And it's like, oh, yeah, that's just Saquon. And I do think it's very cute that you call him Kwon.
Yeah, it is nice. I like when you yell, go Kwon, go.
Yeah. It's cute.
Yeah. He would probably want to get his boys more yards.
Yeah. Good guy.
I do think the Eagles are good i i'm never going to give up on the bangles which is probably going to be a fatal flaw this year uh just being like the bangles are going to be fine the bangles are going to be fine uh their defense was good against the giants and the browns was not good today like they couldn't they couldn't get a pass rush the the eagles offensive line bullied them and you just kind of reverted back to they're not their defense just doesn't like if they're not playing Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson they're going to struggle what's just crazy though is there what now one and are they one and four or oh and four at home they're oh and four at home oh and four at home yeah that's that's generally the sign of a bad team yeah They're 0-4 at home, and they've got to win 7 out of 9.

7 out of 9. 7 out of 9.
Yep. Joe did the math.
7 out of 9, and the Eagles are good. Max, it's okay to say the Eagles are good.
I want you to get your hopes back up. I'm not all the way.
I think I started this off by saying I'm all the way back. don't want to say I'm all the way back Because Why not Why wouldn't you want to say that If we beat the shit out of the Commanders On Thursday Night Football Three weeks When is that game I think it's right before Thanksgiving Okay perm bet You want? It's a perm bet.
You want to do a tattoo bet? Perm. No, perm.
Perm bet. Yeah.
And I'll get it done immediately if we lose. Yeah, me too.
Yeah. You can take your time.
You can take as much time as I took. No, I'll do it.
All right. Well, feel good, Max.
The Eagles are back. No, yeah, it's good.
I'll be sleeping well tonight. You guys got the Jaguars next week? Yeah, so like you said, who cares if you win that game, right? And then you've got the Cowboys.
That game's going to mean something to you. Yeah, always.
Cowboys will always mean something. But it doesn't matter.
It's a two-team race in the NFC East. That's not true.
What? Maybe. It is.
Maybe it's true. You think the Cowboys are...
I don't know. The Cowboys could go on a run.
Okay. Alright, next game.
Falcons 31, Bucs 26. The Falcons they tried to blow this game but the Falcons now have a stranglehold on the NFC South.
They're 4-0 against the NFC South. They're 2-0 against the Bucs.
Kirk Cousins has eight touchdown passes against the Bucs. Todd Bowles, I don't know what you're doing.
Because the Bucs going into this game is like the Bucs don't have Godwin and Evans. It's going to be a struggle for them offensively.
Baker will throw picks, but they moved the ball. Like Cade Otten, Bucky Irving, Baker was throwing the ball.
The Bucs' defense is what failed them today. The Falcons just carved them up kirk was on fire that and wearing the creamsicles the cream they stink in the creamsicles even though they're objectively awesome kyle pitts had a couple really nice plays the touchdown that he had though that that was very such an idiot so he he led up at like the 10 yard line and glided in the end zone hanging the ball out he gets wrapped up from behind i forget.
Was that Winfield that made the tackle? And then the ball gets knocked out as he crosses the plane, and they don't have a camera that's on the end zone. They don't have a camera.
What did Bill Belichick say? This is a billion-dollar league, and you can't put a camera. We have pylon cameras.
I know. They made a camera.
They put a fucking camera in the pylon, and we don't have an angle to see if that was a touchdown or not. That was ridiculous.
It was ridiculous. And then my other favorite part of this game was, I don't think it was Kirk Cousins.
But some people said that it was, but it wasn't him. Somebody on the Falcons yelled, fucking cunt, during a play.
And I don't know who it was. It wasn't Kirk.
Maybe it was somebody. Could have been Kirk.
So Kirk was, I think he was mic'd up today.

Uh-oh.

He might have been wearing the wire.

He did do the walk into our trap, take over your trap pregame.

I saw that.

That one felt awkward.

Yeah.

Again, it's like when they put the chains on like he's a dog that they're dressing up.

Yeah.

When they put him on a plane.

Kirk, say the line, Kirk.

Can you pull up the video, Max?

It was quite something.

He was getting the boys riled up. But he was the pregame.
And he kept repeating it. Yeah.
He was trying to get him to chant it. But hey, guess what? It worked in the fact that they won today.
How do you think he had to have it explained to him? They'd be like, Kirk, it's like a home. A trap is a home.
Yeah. Like a trap depot.
Yeah. And the way it started slow.
A trap depot would be sick. A trap depot would be great should we start a line yeah here it is this is kirk cousins pumping them up we fight no cap.
It's a good job. Good effort.
I mean, hey, listen. Win's a win.
Win is one. And he didn't mince himself.
Yeah. So that's good.
Yeah. By the way, I saw.
So the Bucs. I don't know why.
This just made me laugh. It's very stupid internet, but the Bucs posted their final score, and then Matt, OCP Designs, just replied.
He was the top reply, and it just said, since becoming the head coach of the Bucs in 2022, Todd Bowles has a worse career than a Toyota RAV4, and it has just a list of the different awards. Coach of the Year awards, Todd Bowles had zero.
Rav4 has zero. Super Bowl wins as a head coach, Todd Bowles had zero.
Rav4 has zero. J.D.
Power Reliability Award, Todd Bowles has zero. Rav4 has one.
IHS Top Safety Pick, Todd Bowles has zero. Rav4 has one.
And then could take you to a Super Bowl, Todd Bowles, no, Rav4, yes. So he's worse than Rav4.
Physically, he could take you there. I don't know why, it just made me laugh.
It feels like bad times for Todd Bowles because, again, your defense, your defensive head coach, and this is, your offense has both of your, like, you knowans a hall of famer chris cobwin's incredible they're both out baker has to basically be a magician if you score 26 points and he kind of was a magician yeah he was and it's just like that that how do you not win that game if you have a defensive coach it's just no no adjustments. It felt like they didn't get any pressure on

Kirk Cousins. He was throwing dimes

down the field. Did you see that run he went on too?

Hit a little 13-yard scramble.

I think we can say Kirk Cousins is officially

healthy now. Officially healthy.
I think at the start

of the season, Kirk Cousins was not healthy. I think

he's played his way back to

as mobile as Kirk Cousins could possibly be.

Yeah. And then this also

Atlanta, this is their sixth game decided by one possession. And that's kind of what the Falcons do.
And they have a perfect quarterback for it because Kirk Cousins is 18-6 in one possession game since 2022. That's just what they do.
This wasn't really a one possession game, though. It shouldn't have been.
They let them back into it with the safety and then missed kick. Like it They were up 31-17 And they just weren't able to close out

Like They let them back into it with the safety and then a missed kick. Like, they were up 31-17, and they just weren't able to close out, like, really close the door.
It's just a sweep of the Bucs, and they are now 4-0 against the NFC South. Correct.
Yeah, this is Atlanta's division. It's over.
I mean, it's not over, but it's over. Well, because they took care of the hard part.
Right. They had the Saints and the Panthers left.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the Bucs now are...

Can we just be the first to report?

Yes.

Congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons on winning the NFC South.

You've done it.

You've won the NFC South.

Congratulations.

Good job by you guys.

Kirk Cousins.

Kirk Cousins is kind of prudent.

He's better than people give him credit for because he went to Atlanta and he made them a playoff team. And they drafted a guy high in the first round.
Yeah. To possibly take his job.
Yeah, to take his job. That guy was trying to walk into his trap.
Yeah. And Kirk took over his trap.
No, he said, my trap. Yeah.
Okay. Trap, sweet trap.
Next up, we got Packers 30, Jags 27. Jordan Love got hurt again.

Malik Willis comes in.

Malik Willis is just a good quarterback now.

Yeah, so this now means that Malik Willis is 3-0 against that division.

Right?

He's got the AFC South in hell.

Yeah.

He didn't play last week against the Texans.

I know this might sound stupid,

but I get the feeling like Matt LaFleur has more fun calling plays for Malik Willis because he has to do all the tricks.

Yeah.

He has to get really weird with it.

Yeah.

And so he gets in there and he starts doing the fake misdirective handoffs and then turning around and then throwing the ball back to where he just gave the fake from.

He runs way cooler plays when Malik Willis is still in the game than when Jordan Love comes in.

But Malik Willis, out of nowhere, got fun to watch.

The dime that he threw to Jaden Reed that that basically won them the game was incredible yeah and he's yeah he he commanded the offense the Packers their defense just takes the ball away they have 19 takeaways so far this year it felt like the game like the Jaguars were kind of in this game, and then the Trevor Lawrence fumble was a big change, and then the Jaguars got back into it. They were able to get back into it, tie the game, but the Packers, I don't know how long, do we know how long Jordan Love's going to be out? I think it was a groin injury.
They have the Lions next. Yeah, I don't know.
Which I, Malifor might be able to get Malik Willis to beat the lions yeah i mean if anybody can stop that lions offense it's uh robert salat's defense it's just i i i want to well let me just say this about the jags i actually think trevor lawrence obviously the fumble was bad he didn't play uh bad today he also had like everyone got hurt for the jags i think chris uh christian kirk year. Brian Roberts is awesome.
Yeah, he's awesome. But they had a couple other guys get hurt.
Trevor Lawrence was making some good throws, and the Jags were in this game. They kind of just Jags did at the end.
Yeah, Trevor Lawrence is – he's so confusing to watch because he can make really great throws. Yeah.
And he's a very, very very good quarterback a lot of the time and then he'll have a boneheaded fumble and you're like well how do i evaluate this guy because he's so good at finding guys like middle of the field passing he can make like the deep throws he's got a great arm and he also just looks like a quarterback and then he just drops the ball sometimes you're like well i can't tell if you're good or not yeah you might be very good at playing quarterback but not very good at just holding on to a football right yeah because that fumble yeah it was like on the five which is a pretty big part that was a very big part and also shout out i don't know what uh defensive lineman it was on the packers but an all-time box out on that fumble yeah it was good he just hit check the fuck out of the guy yep uh booty ball i'm gonna say something right right now that Packers fans are not allowed to listen to and you cannot clip. Tyreek Stevenson going after the fans, not doing his job.
Bears organization. Chris Brooks, the running back for the Packers, who went down with a minute left to run the clock out and kick the field goal instead of scoring a touchdown and giving the Jags a chance to possibly have some time left.
Chris Brooks has never scored a touchdown in the NFL, and he went down. It took his dream from him.
And he said afterward, just don't score. That's the only thing going through my mind.
It's always a pleasure to get the win and then do whatever first. It's always a pleasure to get the win first and then do whatever I can to help the team.
That's the only thing going through my mind. It's always a pleasure to get the win and then do whatever.
First, it's always a pleasure to get the win first and then do whatever I can to help the team. That's the difference.
Matt LaFleur coaches a team like that where a guy who's never scored a touchdown in the NFL. Do you think that's why they gave him the ball? It's like this guy's never scored, so he's not going to score and ruin the game.
But that's just good coaching and good clock management and winning football,

and that was what Chris Brooks did.

I mean, the guy – do you know how hard it must have been for him to – like in the back of his head, he's never scored a touchdown in the NFL.

Like you got to see that, and it was a walk-in, and he goes down

and he makes the correct move.

Yeah.

Because it would be hard to not have the instincts of,

I want to score my first touchdown and take over in that moment.

Yeah, to just say no, to deny yourself uh this is also brandon mcmanish revenge game which is a touching story that i'm sure that a lot of people followed along with we all wanted his revenge yeah we all felt bad for brandon mcmanish um it was it was a bad game for the jaguars but maybe you but i don't think it was as bad as you kind of wanted it to be deep down inside.

If you're a Jags fan, you want clean house.

Yeah.

House needs to be cleaned up.

And this was a bad loss.

He did some stupid shit.

Like, he had a defensive delay of game on a field goal.

The Packers were kicking a field goal.

And then they either simulated the snap count or they made weird movements,

got a flag called on them, and then gave them a first down during a field goal attempt. That's the kind of thing that bad organizations do.
And that was embarrassing, but I don't know if this was embarrassing enough to have the ownership of the Jaguars be like, okay, Doug has to go after this one. You need a good ass kicking.
Yeah, you can't be as – they were in this game. Do you think that Sirianni is capable of giving the Jaguars a big enough ass kicking because if you're a jags fan you probably are a big eagles fan right or does sirianni see another coach you know a guy that's also coached the eagles before and yeah seeing what this league can do to you yeah do you think sirianni takes it easy on doug peterson because he's like respect i think sirianni would do would like almost he would get doug peterson fired and then he would be like doug peterson come come to our coaching staff because you got that philly magic yeah he would definitely do that have him come be a consultant like a robert salah for sure i'd welcome welcome to the team as well yeah uh josh jacobs also very good he had a monster game he's a weapon uh it's just it's it's maddening that the packers keep going to malik willis and winning games but they do it's crazy and i've completely reversed course on malik willis now i actually like how could you not yeah yeah he's fun he's he's gonna he's gonna probably get another shot somewhere he's gonna get a nice contract yeah he going to get a shot he might matt flynn this thing yeah uh okay let's take a break before we get to our next game with a couple ads these games are brought to you by game time game time is here to help you get the best tickets that you can find to any football game you want to all the sports games that you want to attend game time is the way to go to them they've got game time picks deals too and they've got it for every game that you would ever want to go to they're the official ticketing partner of barstool sports you know how much we love game time now they've got a brand new game time picks feature they're making it easier than ever to get to a game monday night football we've got the giants in pittsburgh the steelers jersey jerry's gonna be there front row a sussy for Russie sign, I'm told.
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Okay, well, Hank just walked out.

I guess we'll do Cardinals-Dolphins first.

Yeah, okay.

Because we were going to do Patriots-Jets. Hank might not come yeah he might not he might not come back uh cardinals dolphins cardinals might be good well they they were for a fleeting moment in first place in the nfc west another tide for first place or is it i think the 49ers are ahead of that oh no because they beat the 49ers yeah no no they're in first place

they're in first place in the nfc west still in first place in the nfc west they're four and four and they've unlocked maserati marv they've unlocked maserati marv and trey mcbride is a beast because that was the two of them uh when kyler murray was targeting them today 15 for 18 235 yards in a TD.

Yeah.

Like, they were awesome.

And that was a game that if... When Kyler Murray was targeting them today, 15 for 18, 235 yards in a TD.

Yeah.

Like, they were awesome.

And that was a game that it felt like the Cardinals were going to lose.

And Kyler made the big plays to get them into field goal range at the end.

And the Cardinals might be good.

I think they're still in a rebuilding phase because their defense is not great.

And, you know, the one thing I was very impressed with the Cardinals today is they didn't run the ball that great. And I always thought that if the Cardinals don't run the ball, they're basically cooked.
But Kyler made those running around Kyler plays on the weekend that Call of Duty has been released. Yeah, it's a great showing from Kyler.
He gets a night off. I hope that – I hope – what's his name? Jonathan Gannon said after the game, like, hey, you know what, Kyler? You deserve Monday off to play some Call of Duty.
Yeah, give him two days off. Send the replacer in.
Yeah. And have him just take reps at practice.
The Kyler Murray stepping up when James Conner can't thing, I feel like James Conner is – he's still going to pop up for maybe three more games a season where he has two touchdowns yeah definitely he'll still have his good games but he's not like a game changing running back he had one today he just didn't yeah they just didn't run it didn't feel like they had any pop on their running game he also had a very very funny two-point conversion where he tried to jump from like the six yard line when he got the ball yes and then came down at like the four, not even close to it. But the Cardinals, man, first place.

I think the Cardinals are good enough to win that division.

I don't think it's a good division.

They already beat the 49ers.

They beat the 49ers, and the offense can look good.

Yeah, the Cardinals are still in it.

As for the Dolphins, Tua coming back definitely made it look like the Dolphins

were a competent football team again.

They're back into their fun to watch because the last whatever has been four weeks of the Dolphins has been a chore to watch on TV. And credit to Tua.
He slid. He slid.
He slid. He did not wear the Guardian cap today, but he did do some crazy, crazy plays.
I feel like so McDaniel was was just absolutely hating his job for the last four weeks because he had to try to run boring, vanilla-ass plays. He had to try to run Skylar Thompson plays.
Yeah. No matter what quarterback was in, he's like, I'm just going to call the Skylar plays for you.
And then getting Tua back, he's like, I'm going to have Tua throw the ball behind his back. I'm going to have Tua throw an empty hand with his left hand forward as he does a shovel pass with his right hand.
He was just so happy to get to do all the freaky weird shit. The way the game started, I had a theory that was maybe people weren't really listening or thought I was stupid because it is a stupid theory.
I was like, what if Tua got concussed into just being permanently in the zone? Because that's how the game started. He was doing crazy shit.
Yeah. Giving yourself a medically induced minor concussion.
Yeah. Woodpeckers walk around all the time with minor concussions.
It's facts. Industrious as fuck.
Yeah, that's facts. So I don't know if the Dolphins are going to be frisky, but I came away from this.
Oh, Hank's saying no. I think they're back to being a fun watch.
They have two wins. Yeah, but they're a fun watch.
But they didn't have their quarterback for a lot of games. They blew this game.
They did blow this game, but I was... That's not frisky.
Okay. I think their offense is frisky.
Back to frisky. Like two...
Maybe... Actually, frisky is probably the wrong word.
Their offense is just good again. I don't know what happened with their defense at the end of the game, but their offense is fun to watch.
Yeah, they're just a fun watch, period. If the Dolphins are on now with Tua, I'm going to watch.
No, their offense is stacked, but I was just shocking to me how bad they play without Tua. Oh, I agree with that.
Like the 49ers, offensive stacked, you could put any QB in. Oh, that's Brock Purdy slander.
I don't like that. But the Dolphins, it was the complete opposite.
I don't like that Brock Purdy slander. Jimmy G and Brock Purdy, how much of a difference? Jimmy G's Super Bowl.
Brock Purdy's way better. Yeah, much better.
But they both went to the Super Bowl. That's my point.
Brock Purdy's way better. That's my point.
Jimmy Grappolo, all he does is win football games. But Jimmy G's way better than Tyler Huntley and Tim Boyle.
True. Like, they were starting non-starters.
Let me ask you this, Hank. Do you think that McDaniel makes a play for Jimmy G? He would have been a great backup for that team.

Where is Jimmy G?

He's on the Rams.

He's on the Rams.

Yeah.

He's getting that.

He's fucking slaying puss.

Yeah, but you think he wouldn't crush puss in Miami?

Yeah, well, L.A.

Like, here's Jimmy G.

He did not enough puss for that man in San Fran.

Goes to Vegas, puss city.

Then he goes to L.A. Puss for Lili Hills, 90210.
Then now he's goes to Vegas, puss city. And then he goes to LA and pusserly,

the Hills,

90210.

Then now he's going to go to South puss in Miami.

Yeah.

He's hitting them all.

I think he's going to hit,

he's going to have sex with every woman in America before he's out of the

league.

Yeah.

I just,

I think the dolphins,

I here's what I'll say.

The dolphins are going to play spoiler.

They'll be the team that they did that is trying to go to the playoffs late in the season. If Tua stays healthy, you don't think so? A team, yeah.
But they're supposed to be like a playoff team. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, they're definitely not living up to expectations.
And again, I came away from this being way more impressed with the Cardinals. I was more saying that I guess it's because we saw what it was like without Tua that I was just so happy to have Tua back because having a Dolphins game on one of the TVs wasn't just a pain to like like I would when the Dolphins were playing the last few weeks I would just avoid looking at that TV yeah now I'm like oh what's Tua Yeah, they're fun to watch on offense.
They do crazy shit.

And Kyler is very fun. Kyler's having

a good year, and I'm

buying on the Cardinals being

the... The Cardinals could

either get a playoff spot

or they could win the NFC.

And the NFC West is just a...

I don't even know who's good. It's mid-off.

I mean, the Rams are all the way back. The Rams are one

game out. It's crazy.

Alright, Hank, you walked out...

They're not trading Cooper Cup. They're not trading Cooper Cup.
Hank, you walked out when we were about to do this game. Patriots 25, Jets 22.
Go ahead, Hank. Floor is yours.
I mean, it's sad. It was fun the last couple weeks being able to look at, what is it called, Tankathon? Yeah.
Tankathon.com, where all the losers go, and seeing the New England Patriots at the top of the draft board, number one pick. Had no expectations, thought we were going to get a boat race, thought it was going to be the Aaron Rodgers, Devontae Adams, get right game, make a run for the playoff.
They got a window. Drake May played great.
Drake may only played like if drake may played the whole game they would have won by 40 i think he played like three oh wow three drives oh wow uh 40 scored a touchdown which feet unfortunately for the jane the hail mary happened i was really looking forward to being able to be like my quarterback actually scored today and he only played a few drives um i'm sorry that i took that from you hank it's all right i'm sorry i feel bad for you the concussion was kind of weird because it was like i didn't it didn't seem like he got hit that hard yeah he got hit kind of on the back of his head it was a weird angle it was like a tap and i don't know if that should make me more concerned or less concerned why would it make you less concerned because like a two- From the visual test, it didn't seem bad at all. Maybe he's too honest.
And the Kyle Rudolph story, I don't know if you guys saw, some Minnesota Vikings fan found the clip from where it's from. The play, you would never notice that he got concussed that bad in a million years.
He was just coming across the middle and he got hit. But that play happens in every game in the history of football he's just finding out that concussions might be a problem no but it was more like if he was that fucked up from that play then that after watching the drink may thing i'm like oh it wasn't that bad but then it made me think of what kyle rudolph said are you saying that sometimes maybe concussions are under reported yeah after that it's like there's a a day.
Do you – I mean, it is – so what was the meme you shared with us? Yeah, Boston Sports throwback made the meme. It was Michael Scott and his old boss at Dunder Mifflin.
And the old boss said – or it was Michael Scott was, you know, young Michael Scott with the long hair, two and six. I don't have my phone on me.
Can you read the name? Where's your phone go? They're shaking hands, and they're both two and six. Where's your phone go? Just living in the moment.
You just had your phone for the whole first part of the show. I was like, I need to live in the moment.
Well, I was doing my boomer. All right, here it is.
It's Michael Scott's boss is the Jets. The old boss is the Jets.
Highest expectations in 25 years. Shaking Michael Scott, who's the Patriots' lowest expectation in 25 years, and two and six record, both of them.
That's brutal. Also reports dysfunctional locker room.
They don't know if they're going to stick with Mayo. Memes, you're a memes guy.
Talk us through this memes. I feel bad for memes.
I'll say that. You can say that because it is crazy that you guys are like full-on rebuild and the Jets are full-on we should win the Super Bowl this year.
All in. And you're both two and six.
And Drake made him play. And Drake made him play made it even play.
He did play.

Okay.

He played.

So, memes, first of all, I do want to hear your analysis of this meme.

But also, I want to hear what you're going to do this week to make it all go away.

Nothing.

The season's over.

What?

It's over.

Actually over?

What do you mean?

It's over, dude.

Let me see.

Well, I have a fix for you. me cut greg's airline yeah they should have done that two weeks ago it's insane the guy can't kick and you're losing games because he can't i mean if he could kick rob salas still has a job yeah against the broncos that's a win yeah you probably have two more wins you're probably instead of a two and six team you're at four and four like and you're fine he can't kick and you just let him not kick as a kicker continually and and Rodgers didn't even play that bad I mean he's old he's he's old as shit there was a quote after the game from one of the Patriots players that said, he's just not the same.
He was like, I chase him down and I'm 500 pounds. How was that? How was the quote? Yeah, I might have over- Did you see the quote Aaron Rodgers had? Jeff Ulbrich said, it's a moment of darkness for the Jets.
And Aaron Rodgers said, I've been in the darkness. You got to go in there and make peace with it.
He's just talking about his fucking darkness fucking darkness yeah he's talking about ayahuasca yeah they well is that it was at the ayahuasca or was that the because remember he did a darkness retreat that was different than the ayahuasca would you would you go to a darkness retreat sober though yeah well he went to the place in uh what was like oregon or washington where you like basically lived in a hut that was pitch black oregon i look yeah i looked it up too it looks like a bunch of gnomes and they uh oh yeah that's or he lived in a hut that was pitch black. Oregon.
I looked it up. Yeah, I looked it up, too.
It looks like a bunch of gnomes. Oh, yeah, that's right.
He lived in a tree, right? Yeah, he lived in basically the side of a hill in a mossy home. Remember, he left it early, though.
Yeah, he quit. So actually, he doesn't know this.
He quit after a day. It's not a real darkness retreat.
Somebody comes there every day and like knocks on your door and talks to you.

It says a riddle.

Here's your food. Figure out this riddle.
Think about this riddle. He is a gnome.
Yeah. This is a gnome lifestyle.
He's a Keebler elf. Okay.
So, yeah, memes. Aaron Rodgers, what are you going to do with him? Wait, can we have the meme analysis first? Oh, yeah.
Good point. Oh, yeah.
It's a good meme. If we're just doing a unbiased breakdown i would probably flip it just because the patriots are the older oh good point they've been there that's a good point that's why that's why you're the best in the biz yeah that's that is why you're the best in the biz also he's wearing the uh the short sleeve shirt it looks kind of like mayo's sweatshirt that he had on the sidelines.
But let me back up this account. Rogers is the older guy because he's 40.
And Drake May is the new guy. He's young.
So it actually kind of works. Yeah, but the Jets are still the little brother.
Oh, no.

Yeah.

Who's Kevin spilling chili everywhere?

Probably Joe Douglas.

Sauce Gardner.

That might be Tua Concussed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Concussed Tua.

So, yeah, memes, what do you do?

What do you do moving forward?

Well, Aaron Rodgers is probably going to retire just next week,

and then we just move on. This is so sad.
So you're totally done. Well, I mean, talk to me.
He means he's never totally done. No, because we've got to all be honest here.
I think the Bears should still make the playoffs. That's stupid right now.
We can't make the playoffs. You can't.
So you're totally done. Right now, I've been saying we'll go like 11-6, blah, blah, blah.
We're on pace for 2-15. 2-15? This is a 2-15 team.
Yeah, and the vibes are really bad in the locker room. I don't know if you saw some of the tweets.
I did not. There was one that was – let me find it for you because I just want to get your thoughts on it.
Brees Hall was in the Jets locker room in full uniform towel over his head with head hanging low, hands on his head. This loss devastating on so many levels to players in here.
They're searching for answers they can't find. Hall, one of those guys who this means much more or so much to full uniform pads everything just they need a realer speech from davante adams the last one obviously wasn't real enough yeah they i have a insult stat so memes cover your ears oh yeah from rich samini he said this is crazy the jets had zero turnovers held Patriots at 247 yards, and still lost.
They're the first team to lose a game in which they did not turn the ball over and held their opponent under 250 yards since week three of 2012. You know what happened week three of 2012? Also, Aaron Rodgers lost.
Oh. To the Seahawks in the fail-marry game.
Oh. Since then, teams to do that had been 220 and 0 until today.

Oh.

Damn.

Pretty wild.

Also, memes, Jacoby Brissett did a game-winning drive on you,

and he's not a good quarterback.

And the big play was on Soskar in there.

And also, can I say something that I think,

Hank,

you'll probably agree with.

I think, actually,

Max, you'll agree with.

PFT, you definitely

will agree with.

I think if the Patriots

learned how to catch the ball

and caught the ball

in this game,

they probably would have won

by like two touchdowns.

Yeah, they had so many drops.

It was crazy.

They dropped a million balls.

I don't think they went

by two touchdowns, but...

Drake may have played

the whole game. How did Kayshawn Vlutti get so bad at catching the ball? They dropped everything memes.
They did. He was supposed to be like in college.
He was, he was going to be like a top 10 pick. Yeah.
Hassan Redick. He played.
We suck. We suck.
We suck. Nothing.
There's no help. We don't have a coach.
We fired the coach. We upgraded to the D.C.
He's in over his head. He used all his timeouts in the first quarter.
He doesn't know what he fucking does. That was nuts.
That was crazy. All the timeouts gone.
That was crazy. You just got to hope Woody Johnson gets arrested.
Yeah, this is a disaster of a season. How's Greeny doing? He's bad.
Also, Lighthouse curse broken. Oh, yeah.
You can't even use that anymore. How mad does that make you? Oh, no.
You still use it. You have two wins since that dumb fucking Lighthouse bit built.
No, but Hank did just... No, that was their first win in front of the new Lighthouse.
No, second. They paid the bills.
When? Last season. They did? Yeah.
In front of the new lighthouse? Yeah. That was their only home win? Mm-hmm.
All right. Oh, Memes definitely did some research because he knew that was going to come up.
What he's been saying is that the- No, since I rung the bell. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the one that you post every week. What are you talking about? Yeah, since Hank kept the light.
No, it's not. Yeah.
What do you post every week? It's the overall record. No, it's – Hank, I know what you're saying.
He does the one where it's like, since Hank Lockwood has kept the light, they haven't won a game at home. Who was the keeper of the light today? I don't know.
Bring him back. Bring him back.
I'm sorry, memes. Same.
I'm in the same boat as you. Well, not fully, but loser organizations do loser things.
Yep. That's just kind of what happens.
You guys want to power rank to win teams in the AFC East? Yes, I would love to. Okay.
Jets got to be number one. Really? They're dangerous, dude.
I think the Dolphins. No, it's – no, Browns with Jameis? No, it's in the AFC East.
Oh, just the AFC East. Yeah, so Dolphins versus Jets right now in Miami, the Dolphins are favored by what, two points, three points? Yeah.
Oh, it was Vinatieri. Oh, yeah.
Fuck yeah. Yeah.
I don't know. I think it's the Jets.
I think the Jets. I think Jets close second.
Dolphins. But how can you...
The Patriots just beat the Jets. Yeah, but Jets got Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah, true. They got Devontae Adams now.

Hassan Reddick's playing.

Memes, what do you think?

We don't have a fucking coach.

Yeah, but how are you the two-win teams?

We're the best team.

We don't have a coach.

We have no one to coach these players.

We have good players on our team.

We don't have a coach.

Do you?

Yes, we do have good players.

Dolphins have good players.

They have a coach.

Patriots have okay players.

The Patriots have bad players.

Do the Patriots have a good coach?

No.

Thank you. have good players? They have a coach.
Patriots have okay players. The Patriots have bad players.
Do the Patriots have a good coach? No. Bears still have good players and a bad coach.
Well, the Patriots have bad players, but they beat a team that has good players. We don't have a kicker.
That's the one you gotta fucking get rid of. to find a kicker.
You got to get rid of that guy. He's bad.
And he's costing you every game. Hey, listen.
Win Thursday night. No, the season's over.
Okay. It's over.
I tend to agree with you because I don't think you're going to beat the Texans because that Texans. You know what? Let's do the Texans game.
Texans 23, Colts Texans defensive line is ferocious ferocious I I their their their defense kind of won this game I mean the Texans offense continues to be clunky their offensive line isn't great Stefan Diggs got hurt uh but their the Texans are six and two and it feels like they have yet to play their best game.

Yeah, well, that's the thing is they haven't really played a great game yet.

Right.

Which is really strange.

So we don't know if the Texans have that.

I've just been waiting for the Texans to finally have that great game.

But you're playing the Colts, and the Colts play everybody close,

no matter how outmatched they are, no matter how injured they are. The Colts are just kind of going to be around at every single game,

despite the fact that they get some terrible quarterback play. Yeah.
So Anthony Richardson in the first half, two for 15, two for 15 for 81 yards in the first half. Now, to be fair to Anthony Richardson, he had three drops in the first half.
And I went back, I watched all three of those drops, and he very easily could have been five for 15 for 150 yards okay that would have been an awesome stat line yeah if we had gotten that yeah because he he hits the bombs uh but besides a couple deep shots that he took the game plan seemed to be just give anthony richardson the ball and then have him run and uh just hope that he doesn't get hurt somehow when he's running with the ball yes Yes. Because he never slides.
He runs at people. And at one point, he ran so much that he took himself out of the game.
That was tough. I don't think I've ever seen an NFL quarterback say, I need a blow.
And he said it. And after in the postgame, he was like, yeah, I was tired.
Yeah, I just need a blow, coach. That's a crazy thing to say.
It's nuts. richardson and we're not going to pick on him he's i mean i guess i still understand the colts trying to figure it out because you took them with the number four pick uh i do think joe flacco probably wins this game yeah that's the thing about the colts they're constantly one score away right with bad quarterback play if you have average quarterback play, you win these kinds of games.

Yeah, so Anthony Richardson is from Austin Gale. Anthony Richardson ranks 222nd in completion rate among the 225 quarterbacks with 250-plus dropbacks since the year 2000.
So the only three quarterbacks that are below Anthony Richardson are Tim Tebow, Mike McMahon from the Eagles, and then Achilles Smith. That's bad.
Ryan Leaf is ahead of him. Yeah, it's not.
Ryan Lindley, Curtis Painter, Troy Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Andrew Walter. They're all ahead of him.
It's just, I don't know. I don't know if it's like mechanics or what.
He's never been accurate but yeah, I mean there was drops. I guess just keep trying.
Yeah. Keep trying.
I guess. It's good to see Jonathan Taylor out there.
It depends on what you want to accomplish this year. I think you just have to keep trying because you gotta basically definitively say, alright, this didn't work and we have to move on, but you can't do that if you don't play him, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, he has to learn.

He's not going to learn by not playing.

Right.

But Flacco.

Flacco wins this game.

Flacco wins this game.

The Texans are good, and they have not played a good game yet. Also, DeForest Buckner being back for the colts helps a lot too deforest buckner definitely helps uh i always forget how huge he is yeah he's a monster he's a monster uh okay the uh next game lions 52 titans 14 this was a weird game because it was tied 14 14 the final score 52-14 the Lions scored 52 points and they had 61 total net yards passing yeah some crazy crazy stats out of that game that's unfathomable it is it really is Hank can't fathom it I cannot fathom it either Hank how think about it did they have 400 rushing yards Special teams.
Every single time you looked up, the Lions were running down the field with a special teams play. They had a 72-yard kickoff return, a 64-yard punt return, and then a 90-yard punt return for a touchdown.
That's a lot of return yards. I still feel like with 52 points, there's like 250 yards missing yeah so from that when they had 35 points they had 130 yards of offense yeah it's crazy and they had uh jared goff stat he had 85 yards passing um so he had 28 yards passing in the first half and he scored 21 points look like it's it's insane that's the fewest that's gotta be the fewest yards per point in the nfl yeah they kept on it was either a awesome return or a titans turnover like the lions scored the first their first score of the game was off of a mason rudolph interception 23 yards so it's seven nothing and they've only had gain 23 yards.
Then they did have the Jameer Gibbs run, which was insane. The 70-yard run, he's so fucking fast.
One play, 70 yards. So that was 70 yards, and then they got a big return, and then they only had to go 25 yards for a touchdown.
So it just kept on happening where they would just, they'd be going right down the field, then another interception, 12 yards for a touchdown. So, yeah, their first was two plays, 23 yards.
Next, one play, 70 yards. Next, three plays, 25 yards.
Yeah. Next, four plays, 12 yards.
Next, seven plays, 22 yards. It was just every single time I looked up, there was a kick return that was going for a million yards.
Yeah. And the Titans, are the Titans the worst team in the NFL? Well, the Titans, I respect the fact that they realize.
Panthers. Like, we got a Titans.
Yeah, probably Panthers. The Titans have bottomed out.
Like, the Titans were frisky for a while. Their defense, I mean, I guess you could even say their defense, the Titans outgained the Lions by a ton of yards.

The Titans' defense, shockingly, wasn't bad in terms of yards given up in this game.

And that's just because their offense just gave the other team the ball.

Yeah.

But the Titans, it feels like they're bottoming out because they had the Bills game last week where they were, same thing, they were up.

I know they weren't up in this game, but they were up 10-0, then they lost 34-10. This game, it's 14-14.
They lost 52-14. The Lions are just an absolute juggernaut right now.
I don't know. Because the Chiefs are undefeated, but the Chiefs aren't playing – every Chiefs game it feels like it's a little bit.
They're playing really good defense. They're playing great defense.
Yeah. But the Chiefs aren't playing like a full, complete game.
The Lions, it feels like what they've been doing in the last four games has been just out of this world. They actually, here's a crazy stat.
You ready for this? Yep. The Lions in the last four games have 172 points, which is more points.
In the last four games, the Lions have more points than 14 teams have points all year. Yeah.
That's how good the Lions have been. The Cowboys game, the Vikings game, this one, and then what's the other one I'm forgetting? The Seahawks game.
Seahawks, that's right. They beat the shit out of Seattle.
Yeah. They won that game 42-29.
The Lions are just, I don't know how you defend the Lions. How do you go against the Lions? Yeah, and this is no Jameson.
No Jameson? No Jameson today. And they've got one of their other generic-ass receiver names that'll step up.
Yeah. They've got Tim Patrick.
Yep. Allen Robinson.
Yep. Doesn't matter.
They just have the generic-ass receiver names. I mean.
Jared didn't even have to play the entire fourth quarter. Yeah.
It's crazy. This was a classic, classic trap spot because they were going, like, awesome game against the Cowboys, emotional win, lose Aiden Hutchinson, then get up off the mat, beat the Vikings in a back-and-forth game, play the Titans at home at noon or 1 o'clock local, and then they have the Packers next week.
This was the spot where the Titans or the Lions could have looked like shit, and they did the exact opposite and looked like no one could ever beat them. And Jameer Gibbs looks unreal.
He continues to look unreal. He's got six games in a row averaging over five yards per carry.
Yeah. On at least ten attempts.
And the only other guys to ever do that are Franco Harris, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson. It's crazy.
Yeah. Best start for the Lions since 1956.
A stat from the Detroit Lions PR. Today marks the 19th game that David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs have played together.
They're the first running back duo in NFL history to each accumulate at least 1,500 scrimmage yards and 15 scrimmage TDs in a tandem's first 20 games together. They're so good.
Yeah, everything about the offense is good. They're so good.
They don't have a weakness on offense. I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to do about the Lions. The Lions are a problem.

They're a problem.

It's like the only riddle that can be solved is if they play against the Chiefs

in the defense.

Do you think they're going to get a pass rusher in the trade deadline?

I don't know.

Because who can you get?

If you're not Max Crosby, apparently not on the market anymore for some reason.

I don't know.

I guess because Mark Davis likes having a good player on his team. Yeah.
Hassan Redick. Hassan Redick? Yeah.
I don't know who else they can get. But on offense, they don't have a weakness.
They don't. They've got a great tight end.
They've got two, maybe three really, really good receivers. You would say Amin Raj is probably a great receiver you've got uh two awesome running backs mvp level quarterback offensive best offensive line yeah maybe in the nfc and uh the one good i guess the one silver lining for the titans is that you're trying to trade everyone now and calvin ridley had a good game yeah so that was like uh hey this guy's still good come and take him that and christian kirk got hurt which is good for calvin ridley's trade back yeah i think this was actually why is that good for because he was the other receiver oh he was gonna get the jacks were gonna get we're gonna trade him okay that is good wow hey look at you the titans might have gone into this game just trying to increase calvin ridley's trade value as much as possible if they did if that was their game plan this was a great result for the titans yeah and their gm is now doing interviews where he's like encouraging people listen stick with us long term he's telling everyone we are tanking please don't hate us but we're tanking just support the long-term goal this was a great game for the tank yeah fantastic great game for the tank uh okay let's go to afternoon games before we do that pft you got a couple more ads and then we'll wrap up with some playoff baseball and who's back the games are brought to you by uber eats it's football season uber eats is dropping undefeated deals on all your game day favorites this week you can enjoy buy one get one free fries from mcdonald's only on uber eats that's a great deal that they've got everyone likes McDonald's fries, right? They're the best.
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The Seahawks are the most confusing team in the NFL to me because when they look good, and DK Metcalf was out in this game, and he is so important to their offense, but when they look good, they look like you beat anyone. And then in this game, it was like like yakety sacks at goal line plays where they had the – it was like third and goal in the botched snap where it ended up being – or no, I think it was second and goal, and they had third and goal from like the 34.
Then the next time they went down, I think the center tripped Geno Smith on fourth down. And then they had guys fighting each other on the sidelines.
Yeah, they were fighting themselves. Yeah.
And they had to trust themselves to get in between and break it up without taking sides. I feel like the Lions broke them.
I mean, they did beat the Falcons a couple weeks ago. That was a big win for the Seahawks.
But that Lions loss on Monday night really just fucked up the Seahawks' entire season. Yeah.
And so it was very weird for them. They couldn't get a rhythm going offensively and then they started fighting each other the rain was it was the fattest rain I've ever seen it was some fat ass really fat rain and the Bills just played really good clean football yeah and I the Bills are just good like I don't know why I know the Ravens have been flashy because they've been killing it and they beat the Bills.
The Chiefs are undefeated. The Bills all of a sudden have – I know Stephon Diggs, they trade him, but with the way that Keon Coleman's playing, Shakir's a really good receiver.
Amari Cooper now there. Kincaid.
James Cook. They have a ton of weapons.
Yeah, James Cook is awesome. Yeah.
He's playing really well, and they just need to remember to run the football, that it's okay to run the football. Yeah, we also had one of the coolest Josh Allen plays where he punted a fumble for a first down.
He dropped it, kicked it, fumbled, recovered. It was incredible.
It's a very good thing to do in a football game. Write that down.
That is a loophole in the rule book. Yeah, but the Bills are just a good team.
They have as many wins as the rest of the AFC East combined. Six and two, three and two.
Should we congratulate the Bills? Yeah, I'd say the Bills have the AFC East. Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills for winning the AFC East.
I think that's pretty much wrapped up. Look, I mean, the Bills, their run defense, they completely shut down the Seahawks running game.
Seahawks running game sucked today. It felt like they were in the backfield the entire game.
The Bills are just really good. Max even said it.
He was like, why don't we talk about the Bills being true Super Bowl contenders? I think we do, but I think he was talking about more the general public. I think it's because it was the back-to-back Ravens-Texans texans yeah so the the ravens they look very very bad yes the ravens and that felt like just a style like the two styles that didn't seem like a fluke it seems like the the ravens are built to just shit pump the buffalo bills yeah and then with the texans that was josh allen's worst game i think ever yeah like one of One of the worst completion percentages, I think, of all time that he had.
Since then, they've beaten two bad teams, and we don't know what the Seahawks are. Yeah.
All the games that they should win, they've won pretty handily. Yeah, we don't know what the Seahawks are.
Seahawks are just confusing. I do not know what to make of the Seahawks week to week.
No. And then they've got the Dolphins and then at Indy.
And then after that, I'm looking forward to the 17th against the Chiefs. Yeah.
That's going to be a great game. Yeah.
Flex that to Sunday night. I agree.
Give that to us on Sunday night. But, yeah, the Bills are great, and I don't know what the Seahawks, I can't make you have a defense fighting each other It feels like bad vibes Tough look for the 12s today Very tough look Because there were a ton of Bills fans there McDermott after the game was like I've never seen Seattle like that before Apparently Buffalo made the trip Gotta protect your trout Bills, Lions, Super Bowl in New Orleans.
Oh, my God. We need it.
Oh, my God. That would be incredible.
I'm going to be drunk for months. That would be the biggest.
That would be such a fun party scene with those two fan bases. Knowing that one of those two fan bases is going to get a Super Bowl.
What's the spread?

Lions minus three and a half.

I think it starts out at three and a half.

The Sharps take it up to five.

But think about the Bills.

They would have to have beaten the Chiefs and probably the Ravens to get there.

So people would be really hyping them up.

Yeah, probably three and a half. Who are the Lions? The Lions would probably be looked at as, okay, you won the NFC.
Yeah, I think it's close to that now. Yeah, three and a half.
Okay, Chiefs 27, Raiders 20. We should mention it was National Tight End Day, so Travis Kelsey, of course, scored.
This Sunday? Yeah, this Sunday. Scored his first touchdown of the season.
I'm just mad because I didn't just bet every tight end to score a touchdown because every tight end scored a touchdown, basically. Can I tell you something? Yeah.
I don't love National Tight End Day. I do if it could make us money next year.
Yeah, if we had capitalized on it, it would be nice. Yeah.
If we can make a note for National Tight End Day next year. I feel like recently tight ends, they get their fair share of the publicity, right? But they all score.
They're making a lot of fanfare about how tight ends don't make fanfare. Yeah.
They just keep their heads down. And meanwhile, one of them is dating the most famous person in the world.
True. But they get no love.
They all scored, though. Let's it we should have bet it at that's that's the only thing i'm upset about is like i didn't know that they were going to actually all play like the most incredible games in national tight end day let's do a national blocking tight ends day i like the guys that are like real high up in the 80s numbers numbers 88 and 89 they just go out there and they get called out maybe once a series.
Mercedes Lewis? Yeah, Mercedes Lewis. Just like the real chunky guys, real heavy legs.
Yeah. Don't run very fast.
Let's celebrate those guys. Yeah.
But they all went off. And Travis Kelsey scored his first touchdown of the season.
And he looked good today, too. Yeah, he did.
He looked good. The Chiefs defense won this game.
The game basically came down to it was a seven-point game in the half, and then the Raiders started on the Chiefs 28, started to drive on the Chiefs 3, and they only got three points out of it. That was the game.
And the one they started on the 28, they got a field goal. The one they started on the three, they got stonewalled four straight plays.
And then Patrick Mahomes went on a 19-play, 90-yard drive. That's like an Army offense.
19-play, 90-yard drive. The Raiders got stopped at fourth and goal on the three-yard line or four-yard line with .327 in the third quarter.
They didn't get the ball back until .844 in the fourth. Was it the Raiders or was it the Titans that had that offensive stand? It was at the goal line, and they ran like three plays at a shotgun, like three running plays, I think, at a shotgun.
I don't know if – I think that might have been the Titans, but the similar thing with the Raiders, just like not being able to get it in there. They can't run the ball.
They averaged 1.6 yards per carry today. Would Madison have like 14 carries for 15 yards? Yeah.
It was a bad scene if you're a Raiders fan. Yeah.
And it was the Kermit the Frog revenge game for the Chiefs too. It was, but they didn't cover.
They remembered that shit. The backdoor.
Yeah. So it didn't count for that.
But yeah, the Chiefs defense is awesome. I don't, like, and Patrick Mahomes threw another interception.
I don't think it matters. He just needs to, like, Patrick Mahomes with this defense, he needs to just have, like, three or four good drives a game and extend plays like he does.
And they did ball control. They held the ball, and they suffocated the Raiders, and yeah, their defense is so, so for real.
Are Chiefs fans concerned at all, though? I don't think so. About Mahomes just not playing as dominant as he's played in the past? Well, I think they probably should trade for another weapon.
Actually, Seth Walder said on Twitter, I think he does analytics for ESPN he said uh the chiefs should call the jets about davante adams hmm which actually would be an interesting trade flip him do you think davante adams is on the trade market nope why not i use a jet jet for three more years oh okay but should they call they should call call why wouldn't you Why why wouldn't you take a call make make the jets say yes yeah because the raiders didn't want to trade him to the chiefs but what if the jets trade him to the chiefs who cares that would be such a funny thing i don't know that would be very funny it would be very spoiler memes I don't know Spoiler Spoiler the Raiders No This probably isn't

The most It would be. Play spoiler memes.
Spoiler the Raiders. This probably isn't the most shocking thing I'm about to say.
We do like him, but Antonio Pierce failed the down 14 score late two point conversion tests. It checks out.
Yeah. I never expected.
Did we ask him? We might have asked him. I don't know if we did but he did he passed the uh

don't kick a field goal when you're when you're trailing by like nine points at the one yard line that was nice yeah yeah which he failed last week yeah uh okay next up uh bo nicks bo nicks broncos 28 panthers 14 bo nicks had an awesome game national tight end day adam troutman had his career high and in the first half and a sick TD catch.

And,

uh,

yeah,

the Broncos.

Yeah. Had an awesome game.
National tight end day. Adam Troutman had his career high in the first half and a sick TD catch.
And, yeah, the Broncos, this is what playing the Panthers is like. It's fun.
It's really fun. It's really, really fun.
21 points in the second quarter. Bryce Young didn't look as bad as he has looked.
As bad. He wasn't good today.
Yeah, I was going to say. say it this way do you think bryce young uh his his trade value increased decreased or stayed the same after today i think this is deaker it's it's nothing he's bad uh the panthers should have benched him the second he finished that first drive for a touchdown yeah it went up seven nothing because that was it that it.
That was the peak. You should have gotten out right then.
That was basically you're hot on the blackjack table, walk away a winner. Like, that was it right there.
You got to do a pump and dump with Bryce Young. Yeah.
You got to script out some sick plays for him right off the bat, and then after he gets done with it, be like, okay, we can't get you hurt. Yeah.
Come to the sidelines. Let another team take you.
i mean i i do think the broncos are they're they're i mean their defense is very good and if bo nix can play with some confidence you got something would you say the broncos are very quiet five and three yeah i would say so why are they such a quiet five and three um i think they're a quiet five and three because we've seen bo nix is his bad has been really bad i think it's because two things the loss to the steelers in week two where they scored six points that was a tough game to watch yep that was really tough and then uh yeah besides that i guess they beat the jets 10 to 9 yeah that was a bad that was just a bad game to watch because it was that weird storm in new jersey yeah Yeah, and their win against the Bucs was kind of, you know, that was an early game that was kind of lost in the shuffle. And people didn't think the Broncos were good then, but now they're 5-3.
This is the best Broncos have been in a while. They probably started eating Uncrustables right before that Bucs game.
Yeah, which, by the way, we have an entire refrigerator full of like 700 and uncrustables 800 800 we're ready to go this so we're trying to beat the broncos right that's the goal but we're not doing it in a way i still have to send out the email to the office being like don't it's not a competition don't eat 10 a day but eat as eat as many uncrustables as you want it's not a competition just do it naturally how do i send that email or should not even send an email and just see people because people will just generally just go and grab them yeah that's the way we do it yeah just don't make a big deal out of beating the broncos we want to see naturally where we stack up yeah i think that's fair like i'm probably gonna have like four or five a day maybe yeah i was trying to do math i feel like we're gonna break it i think those uncrustles will be gone by wednesday i will personally eat three a day really trying we'll beat it by the end of the week for sure okay yeah. Yeah, I think we can do that.
I like that.

What memes you're saying?

Yes.

Say dominated.

Some people are going to eat like seven to 10.

Yeah, no, we'll crush it.

You two being two of them.

What?

I just said I'm going to eat three.

I said I was going to eat four or five.

Exactly.

Did JC Horn try to fight Sean Payton after the game?

Can you find that clip? I saw it going around. I wasn't able to watch it because I saw it after we started.
I'm pretty sure J.C. Horn tried to fight Sean Payton for doing a fake field goal up 14 or 21.
He ran up to him, yeah, when the game ended in the middle of the field. Yeah, and was like, what the fuck? I mean, the Panthers are just so sad it's it's it's a tough watch it's a tough tough watch i don't really know what what you do all right here it is wait sean payton is definitely not someone that gives a fuck about uh like good sportsmanship no i would say actively i'd say the contrary yeah I don't think he's...
Okay. He ran up on him? Yeah.
I think that's giving him a piece of your mind. It's just shop talk.
Yeah. Piece of his mind.
Just being upset. Trick play on fourth and two while up 28-7 in the fourth quarter.
Sean Payton's trying some stuff up. Yeah, you got to get a look at it.
You got to see what works. All right.
Last up, or we'll talk about Sunday Night Football as well. Chargers, 26.
Saints, 8. Justin Herbert is really good, and so is Lad McConkie.
Yeah, Lad. Football Lad.
Saints might be the worst team in the league. They're the Panthers.
The Panthers. You forget about the Panthers.
Yeah, no. So, take out the Panthers.
Who's the second one? Okay, so you got the Titans. Titans.
You got the Raiders. Raiders.
Jets. The frustrating thing about the Raiders is they're so...
Gardner Minshew knows where the ball should go or he knows where he should run, when he should take off and run, but he's just not fast enough to actually get there. Yeah.
And he doesn't have the arm strength to actually get the ball there. Right.
Right. But I don't think that the Raiders are as bad as the Titans.
I guess the Saints will be better when Derek Carr comes back because they benched Spencer Rattler today for Jake Hayner, which, yeah, I mean, it's a bad scene. Have you seen Jake Hayner's press photos that he did this year? Yeah.
They are so funny. Zesty.
They are so funny. Yeah.
Zesty. They're the funniest press photos of all time.
Yeah. Justin Herbert was a beast today, though.
He's really fucking good. And, hey, listen, guys.
Chargers, they win next week. Might be making some ground.
I really wish we'd beaten the Cardinals for that Super Bowl future. I also wanted to do something real quick.
Now this is I'm going to say I understand the content business I don't want to copy anyone but I did see this new segment on Inside the NFL called Football Guy of the Week and I wanted to give Football Guy of the Week to Bradley Bozeman for protecting Justin Herbert after Nathaniel Shepard basically tried to rip his leg off. Yeah, so Nathaniel Shepard did the gator roll with Justin Herbert's leg, tried to shatter his ankle, his knee, and then Bozeman saw it happen, and he came in and just wiped them out, which was awesome.
They should have penalized him for that. Yeah.
And then after they asked him about it, he said, it's probably one of the dirtier plays I've ever seen. And then he said, protect your quarterback no matter what.
Football guy of the week. Football guy of the week.
And that's – Credit to inside the NFL. You know that Harbaugh went up to him after the game and was like, protect your quarterback no matter what.
Yeah. He's like, yeah, you're absolutely right, coach.
I love you. Yeah, yeah.
Herbert, yeah. Yeah, Harbaugh definitely gave him a game ball and probably like smacked him around a little.
I'll pay your fine. That was one of the dirtiest plays.
I don't know what the fuck that guy was doing. He almost, like, blacked out and forgot that we were in the year 2024 and this wasn't just an insane, insane, just trying to twist Justin Herbert's leg.
Yeah. So Bradley Bozeman, first ever football guy of the week.
You guys like that? The Saints are dirty. They're a dirty team.
Yeah, they are.

They always got the history.

By football guy, I mean he's like a football player?

No, he's a football guy of the week.

Football guy.

It's like a guy that he... Well, he's a player.

Yeah, but no.

Football.

He's a guy that just loves football.

All he thinks about is football.

Yeah.

Protect your quarterback no matter what.

Do you get it?

Yeah, I don't think you get it.

Hank doesn't get it.

I mean, I feel like everyone's... All players are...
Watch inside the NFL. You don't get it.
They, I don't think you get it. Hank doesn't get it.
I mean, I feel like everyone's – all players are –

Watch inside the NFL.

They don't get it.

They don't get it.

They do a better job explaining than we do.

All right, last up Sunday Night Football, the Cowboys.

They just did the same thing where they were –

they were actually playing okay in the first half.

Niners come out and beat the shit out of them, and then the cowboys make the game look like it's more competitive than it was uh by only losing by six yeah some nice plays by the 49ers defense they had a sick interception of dac they almost got another one at the very end of the game too dac had some tag had that one interception where he was basically telegraphing it to a double covered cd lamb along the sideline yeah was bad what what was this trayvon diggs did a d's nuts joke to reporters yeah this is great after the game this was after the game there there was a this reporter tweeted something it was like what what is trayvon diggs doing on this play and he nuclear on him. Oh, hell yes.
Yeah, I'll show you. I'll play it.
Out of that whole play, that's what you took from that? You don't know football. You can't do nothing that I do.
You can't go out there and do nothing. It ain't playing, buddy.
Stop playing to me, bro. Just asking the question, Trayvon.
I mean, I'm happy to have you answer the question. Out of that whole play, that's what you took from that? That's what you got from that? That whole play, that's what you took for that? That's what you got from that?

That whole play, that's what you got from that?

I'm asking you.

We can talk about it more.

What were you doing then?

Yeah, right at the end, he says we can talk about these nuts.

Jerry's going to have that guy fired.

Yeah.

Or try to.

Yeah.

Yeah, it doesn't feel good.

Cowboys are –

It doesn't feel like good vibes in Dallas right now. It doesn't, but this is great vibes for the Niners.
Yeah. And Ricky Pearsall got the ball, was fast out there.
That was cool to see. Yeah.
Good for him. And their backup running back, Isaac Garendo, was awesome in Kittle.
Yeah, Kittle showed up for National Tight End Day, 128 yards and a touchdown. So Niners back, or do they play the Cowboys? I think the Niners might be back.
Dak is just. Purdy looked good, too.
Purdy was moving around out there. He had Debo back, which is very helpful.
So having Debo and Kittle playing at the same time. Like the 49ers, I don't think there's anything broken about the 49ers besides the fact that they have a lot of players that aren't playing for them.
Yeah. And when they get those guys healthy, I still think that they're a good team.
They're not, I guess, dominant as they've been in the past when they have Christian McCaffrey. But they're still a very – I'd say they're a good football team.
Yes. Even without them.
And the Cowboys building their entire offense out of just Dak and CeeDee Lamb feels like it's not built for long-term success. Did they give the ball to Cook at all? Did Dalvin get the ball? Dalvin got six carries for, guess the yards.
Six carries, 11 yards. 12.
12 yards. 12 yards.
He still got it. He still got that burst.
Yeah, but when you look at who Dak throws the ball to, CeeDee had 13 catches, 17 targets, and then the rest of the team basically had 20 targets. He had 17.
It feels not sustainable. I'm watching this Ricky Pearsall.
It was an end around inside handoff. He's going to be fun to watch.
We're saying're saying he should be allowed to do the simulated guns. Yes.
If you got shot, if you got shot, maybe tank Dell, maybe tank Dell. Yeah.
You should be allowed to do it. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. Brian Robinson, Brian Robinson should be allowed to do it.
Yep. Yeah.
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Are the Yankees cooked?

Let's talk a little World Series.

I think Aaron Judge, not a true Yankee.

Aaron Judge.

Is Aaron Boone a true Yankee?

No.

No.

But Aaron Judge is a loser.

I think he was a true Yankee player. you he's kind of lost that as a manager yeah the game one of the World Series was one of the best baseball games ever yeah it was it was so exciting back and forth Freddie Freeman's Grand Slam walk off home run was one of the coolest moments him he just knew the second it hit his bat that it was gone.
Yeah. Has to be the coolest feeling of all time.
You watch that and you think that almost every dude that is watching that baseball game has pretended to be that person in that moment when they were young. Yeah.
And the Yankees are just like Aaron Judge is a regular season merchant. All he does is hit home runs in the regular season, doesn't show up in the playoffs.
And if there's one fan base that will not tolerate that, it's the New York Yankees. Does not have his pinstripes.
And having a guy like Juan Soto come in and be the only one that's hitting dingers. Who was Giancarlo? Didn't Juan Soto? Giancarlo hit one on game one.
I'm talking about game two. Yeah, but Giancarlo, he hit one to the moon moon and Giancarlo's been hitting a lot of dingers but I'm saying having a guy like Soto yeah parachute in yeah and then be clutch as fuck in the World Series yeah and judge who's been there and been a great player for the Yankees for a long time have him still not be able to do anything in that big of a moment that's it makes it more glaring he's more obvious and he's like's just, it feels like, I mean, it's because he's batting third.
I don't know why they don't drop him. Max, why don't they drop him? Well, then you really kill his confidence.
But every big moment in the first two games, Aaron Judge has come up and he's been a zero. But you need, like, the Yankees need Aaron Judge to give you something if you're going, like, if.
But every time he comes up, you're like, damn, I wish this was Giancarlo if you're a Yankee fan. Yeah, I mean, you could drop him to four.
That would be fine. But it's not.
I don't like this whole you're going to kill his confidence if you make him hit in a different place in the lineup. Why? Because then it's like, okay, then you weren confident to begin with if you're that baseball is such a mental game it like everyone like when you're in a slump you are very fragile and you just gotta you trade turner and just congratulate him you gotta hit your way out of it like there's nothing there's nothing you can really do other than just like try and hit your way out of it but what's what's more important having having judge like be well mentally or putting him further back in the lineup so he's not doing as much damage to you by having him hit sooner in the order it's the world series yeah but but you're are you just gonna punt like potentially your best player but maybe he wakes him up or it should be potentially best player it's the world series is your best player or not he's playing like shit But baseball is so different.
Like, should be potentially your best player. It's the World Series.
Is he your best player or not?

He's playing like shit.

But baseball is so different.

You can be the best player in the world and be playing poorly.

You just got to...

I feel like playoff averages are pretty good representations of your playoff performance.

It's not like a fluke.

No, he's been bad for a while. Yeah, no.
I know. He's been bad all playoffs.
I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying that's the only reason why I wouldn't do that.
I love our good friend Tommy Smokes. He's gone back to the dark side.
He's trying to be positive all year, and I don't know if you guys have seen, but he's gone back to the dark side, and his tweets are very funny

because he's just – he's ruthless about the Yankees.

He was calling – let me find it.

That game falls on Aaron Judge in his pathetic ninth inning at bat.

Volpe, too.

Soto showed up and nobody else.

Too little too late.

Just not a serious team.

I guess at least we're heading back to the Bronx.

Oh, wait, no.

What was the one?

He had one with Carlos Rodton. Did he delete it? He called him a fat pig.
He's like just basically like he's not ready for this moment. He's a fat pig.
They're just – the Yankee fans are brutal. Then you had the scene at Billy's Billy's right the bar in the Bronx where they were cheering when Shohei got hurt I have no problem with that yeah at a bar if it's a crowd they paid tickets to go to it's one thing but at a Yankee bar in the Bronx and you're also so desperate for anything like maybe Like, maybe don't cheer, but you know they're all happy.
Like, that's just how fandom works. Yeah, but you can think that and also think that's beneath the Yankees.
No, I think they're desperate. I think they're in a desperate state of mind.
Yeah, but being desperate is beneath the Yankees. Yeah.
I got tremendous joy out of the fact that game one, Aaron Boone made, like, you know, it's the players, but the manager basically cost him the game. And game two, by putting someone in who hasn't played meaningful baseball in a month.
And then game two, he just did the same thing, but with a batter. Yeah.
Yeah. It was insane how he let him get himself in that spot two games in a row.
Yeah, game one when he put in Cortez, it was just like, what are you doing, dude? Two pitches. He's been pitching good.
Here's the bottom line. The Dodgers are just so fucking good.
They're so goddamn good. Their bullpen's insane.
Their plate discipline is insane. If, if they don't swing, it's going to be a ball.
The game one was horrendous, but they're just a wagon. Like, you can't make a single mistake with the Dodgers.
And as bad as Aaron Boone's been and Aaron Judge's been, I don't know who's beating the Dodgers right now, right? Yeah. I mean, Otani's going to be a big factor.
Yeah, but I still think they'll probably beat him. I don't know.
I mean, Tommy Edmund. Guy just gets big hits.
They just got dudes everywhere. Okay.
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CoorsLight.com slash take. Who's back of the week, Hank? My who's back of the week is shorts.
Oh. you seriously don't have a single who's back the week.
Uh, I was going to talk about baseball. I also, I mean, I, I, we just saw a commercial for Krispy Kreme McDonald's collab.
Yeah. Which has had my head and a pretzel for the last hour.
With the buns or donuts? I don't know. It looks, I, I was blown.
It's like the, you know, the Avengers and the justice league getting together. Yeah.
Yeah. It's pretty your who's back? The buns or donuts? I don't know.
It looks... I was blown.
It's like the Avengers and the Justice League getting together. Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty incredible. It looks delicious.
That's one of those things that people always talk about. Like, oh, they get this burger.
It's got donuts as the buns. And it's usually at a place that just does Instagrammable brunches.
Like, they make their dishes so that you can take pictures of them, not so you can eat them. I've had some bad experiences.
Like, not bad, but I don't think that it's – I would rather have a hamburger and then a donut on the side. But I will try this.
Duke's back, Hank. Duke is back.
Oh, what happened with Duke? They beat Arizona State by 50 in a – Scrimmage. Scrimmage.
Arizona State's bad. Yeah.
Duke beat them by 50. Okay.
Okay. How did Cooper look? I don don't know this was also a scrimmage but they won 103 to 47 okay that they might be back fuck that's a that's an yeah they might be back god damn it they might be back this is gonna piss me off i'm not gonna go back to being like i'm i can't i can't fake it i feel like i've made my my claims pretty pretty steadfast with duke like i'm not gonna go back and and hop all the way back on the bandwagon this year i'll just say it you're not excited about this but no always root for them but like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna be beating the drum for Duke basketball.
No, I'll always root for them, but I'm not going to be beating the drum for Duke basketball.

But.

But I will root for them more than I root for anyone else.

Okay.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Yeah, that's fair.

Very fair.

PFT, who's your who's back?

My who's back of the week is Pup Punk is playing in New Haven.

Oh, hell yes.

On Friday night.

So I hope the World Series will be over by then. I think that's when game six would be, right? Yeah.
That's the night of game six. I think some people from the New York office are going to go out.
We're going to take a bus from New York, but it should be a fun time. We're playing at Toad's Place, which is one of those awesome venues that we play in.
Yeah, it's cool. Wait, are you playing Friday night? Friday night.
Friday night out there. Nice.
And you sit backstage at that spot, and you see the Beatles on the wall. You see the Rolling Stones.
It's a very, very cool place. So very excited to go.
Where are you going to get pizza from? So we had pizza from two places last time. Is Rosie's one of them? Rosie's, Sally's, Frank Pepe's.
Okay, so I think last time we had Sally's and Frank Pepe's. And am I allowed to say I like both? Or do you have to pick one? No, of course.
I mean, they're both fantastic. They're awesome.
Yeah. They're awesome.
So I'll be eating a fuckload of pizza. But yeah, it should be fun.
I think we got tickets on sale now. And we're doing a costume contest because it's the night after Halloween.
Oh, hell yes. A $500 prize to the best costume.
And I'm going to match $500 of my own cash so you can win a thousand bucks best costume hell yes what are you gonna be I can't tell you that if you have to ask you can't afford it I'm gonna go as Jaden how you get problematic be careful be careful get problematic uh guys coming my my who's back my who's back is the ufc because did you guys see that guy who got his jaw uh wrenched uh harder than anyone's ever gotten their jaw wrenched that was crazy hamzat kamaev did that to whitaker i want to say and he basically just shattered his jaw with a choke out and i don't really understand how it happened he tapped so quick and he like they showed a picture the next day his jaw is just completely fucked did you see that that video of i think it was at the weigh-in there was a guy from i want to say kazakhstan that just showed up and got on the mic to ask a question he's like i am undefeated fighter from fighter from Kazakhstan. I'm 5-0.
Dana White, please give me an opportunity to fight on short notice. I will fight anyone.
And then Dana, like, sized him up and was like, what weight class are you? And he was like, I think he said lightweight. And he's like, okay, I'll give you a fight.
Holy shit. Yeah, just got him up on stage.
It was like, you look like you can fight. The guy had cauliflower ears.
So Dana just looked at that was like yeah fuck it if you win a fight then i'll give you an actual fight oh man that's incredible it's pretty cool yeah i'm rooting for that guy whatever his name is um all right we got anything else i've moved on not actually i'm not i have not moved on you've moved on for tonight tomorrow probably doesn't get much better no i'm gonna wake up tomorrow just so mad because also game especially a game like that you are gonna it's gonna get brought up to you when you don't want it to oh yeah the next week oh yeah oh it's gonna be yeah especially in this all there's nothing worse coming in coming into the office after a bad loss It's like every person comes to you Like you just lost a family member I know Don't say I know like that, Hank What loss were you thinking of, Hank? When's that happened to you? Bruins last year against the Panthers. You're an asshole, Hank.

I love you.

All right.

Good show, boys.

Numbers.

19.

5.

11.

Memes, you want it?

Pass.

Three.

I was giving it to you.

I'll go 99.

All right.

I like it.

15.

Just that?

No, we had 12.

15.

Love you guys.

12. 15.
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