NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Hail Mary, Jameis Is All The Way Back, The Jets Are Dead + World Series Talk

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we have football week eight.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 We've got a lot to get through.

Speaker 1 Incredible witching hour. Obviously, the Bears Commanders game, which we will start with,

Speaker 1 will make an exception. Even though it was an afternoon game, it was a wild, wild Sunday.
We're going to start with fastest two minutes, and then we'll get into every single game.

Speaker 1 We also have some World Series to talk about, who's back of the week. It's going to be a hell of a show.

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Today is Monday, October 28th, week 8.

Speaker 1 Some spread. Let us be the first to wish a happy National Tight Ends Day to all those that celebrate.
And a happy Halloween.

Speaker 1 In Houston, where this election day, our Second Amendment rights are at risk after an AR-15 fired erratically on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Joe Mixon of Water kept the Colts defense sober in a back-and-forth affair as Josh Downs goes Frazier was able to keep the Colts close.

Speaker 1 The Colts had a chance to tie it late, but it was Daniil Hunter S. Thompson who went gonzo mode on the struggling Colts QB, ending the game for the Texans.
Texans 23, Colts 20.

Speaker 1 We go down to Tampa Bay where Kirk, did you know FDR married his cousins, was wheeling a new dealing.

Speaker 1 No one thought he could use his legs, but here he is going for 13 yards getting Falcons fans out of a great depression.

Speaker 1 Chris Kyle Pitts cut a body from a long distance away and it was literally a no scope as the refs didn't have a good angle to see if he scored.

Speaker 1 Cade Ottenman Empire made the defense look like turkeys and was a constant Tenopole presence in the Falcons end zone scoring twice. The Falcons walk into your trap.
Take over your trap. Falcons 31.

Speaker 1 Bucs 26. In Miami where the Dolphins were back to playing two a girls one cup, but this time their quarterback learned how to slide, making sure no one in attendance threw up.

Speaker 1 Trey McBride in Prejudice was a tough read for the Miami defense, going for 124 yards on the afternoon. The Cardinals hung tough, leaving it up to Chad.

Speaker 1 Rylan boy, living in the Caribbean, to kick the game winner. Hey, whatever happened to those guys, Teege?

Speaker 4 They sucked each other's dicks, boom.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry for asking. Cardinals 28, Dolphins 27.
We head to Cincinnati, where Max was on the scene.

Speaker 7 Jalen Skirt Skirt was put into turbo mode after rushing for three touchdowns and adding another in the air.

Speaker 7 The rookie corner duo of Snooper DeGene and Quasion Mitchell were playing young and wild and free while forcing the Bengals receivers to drop it like it's hot.

Speaker 7 After getting blanked last week, Devontae Sam Smith told AJ Brown, you know you're not the only one,

Speaker 7 as he went off for 85 yards at a touchdown.

Speaker 7 Jamar Johnny Chase said, I am the fucking game pal when he secured one of the only touchdowns for Sincy, but unfortunately, it was not enough to secure the victory.

Speaker 1 Eagles 37, Bengals 17.

Speaker 1 We head on over to Foxborough where Hank is on the scene for a stunning, huh? Huh? Stunning result.

Speaker 6 Down to the Lighthouse, where the team with the worst record in the NFL and the projected number one draft pick, with an unfathomable amount of dissension in the locker room and a banged up offensive line, the New England Patriots, went up against the super team New York Jets and the explosive Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams duo.

Speaker 6 In the first quarter, Drake May was run man, run man, run man, run man as he scampered first 17 yards in a touchdown. Tyler Sanklin caught a two-yard touchdown of his own to tie the game.

Speaker 6 The Jets seemingly had the game wrapped up in the fourth quarter after Braylon Grayjoy Allens scored a go-ahead touchdown with three minutes left.

Speaker 6 But Ramondre Stevenson said, what is dead may never die, as he scored with 25 seconds left to give the Patriots the win.

Speaker 1 25-22.

Speaker 1 Over to Detroit, where everybody loves Raymond Khalif. Had 190 return yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 4 Freemason Rudolph and the Tennessee Titans are starting a secret society of sock, and it was on full display against the Lions.

Speaker 1 There's a Laporte on the Midwest pay, and it serves 100 catches a day.

Speaker 1 The Lions say, Danny, you're a fine coach. What a good champ you would be.
But we got Garf, Amon Ra and Monty.

Speaker 4 We're top seed.

Speaker 1 The Lions 50 total Titans 14.

Speaker 1 Out west to Las Vegas, where Xavier Drama for Your Mama Worthy scored early as the Chiefs look to Kareem Pie hunt the Raiders in Mark Davis' house.

Speaker 1 Travis Scott Kelsey was fiending the end zone as he scored for the first time this season as the Raiders are last thrilled in the AFC West.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs, now 7-0, debuted their newest weapon, DeAndre Anthony Hopkins, as they look to eat the NFL's liver with some fava beans and a nice cantey.

Speaker 1 Chiefs 27. The

Speaker 1 Raiders 20. We head out west where Memes and Shane wrote a boomer, and we have no idea how it's going to go.

Speaker 10 We go to sunny LA where Dennis Allen has had it with these motherfucking Spencer rattlesnakes in this motherfucking game. Justin Gatlin Herbert gashed the Saints Steve for 50 rushing yards while J.K.

Speaker 10 Rowling-Dobbins said, went Guardian Leviosa and floated his way into the... for a touchdown.
Joe Rogan Alt asked Jim Harbaugh how they plan to beat the Saints. Two things I said.

Speaker 10 Lad McConkey, you're going in.

Speaker 10 Blake Grimsacks tried to bang 24 guys, points I mean, by himself, but came up shy. Saints eight, Chargers 26.

Speaker 1 Great job, Beams. We go down to Ral John, Maryland, at a stadium that appropriately looks and feels like a toilet bowl because it was a matchup of number one and number two.

Speaker 1 Zach, Ert so good. Come on, baby, make it Ert so good.

Speaker 1 Sometimes gloves don't stick like they should, even though art so good joe tore taylor earned his aussie punch stripes saying is this punt returnable nar narr nar nar nar

Speaker 1 the bears dialed up the fridge play to put the game on ice but fumble as donald trump newton stopped a special russian military operation saying

Speaker 1 you don't want to do that madamir superfluous the bears took the lead on a late score but then jaden daniel day lewis went method acting as the good old version of Aaron Rodgers and threw a Hail Mary where Tyreek Stevenson put his left hand up.

Speaker 1 The Commanders.

Speaker 1 18. The Bears, 15.

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 He's now QB1. The Browns are having fun.
The Lamar can't beat the AFC.

Speaker 1 His arms are heavy.

Speaker 1 He's calm and ready.

Speaker 1 And there's vomit on his sweater. Momsma gay.

Speaker 1 Browns 29. Ravens 24.

Speaker 1 And that is the fastest two minutes of week eight.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week eight in the books.

Speaker 1 What a Sunday it was. What a Sunday it was.

Speaker 1 We don't usually start with games in the afternoon, but let's rip the bandaid off. That's why pretty much everyone is here.

Speaker 1 Commanders 18, Bears 15.

Speaker 1 PFT, I give you the floor. That was

Speaker 1 something. Take the floor.

Speaker 4 I feel like people tune in for sickest reasons.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 we should have probably taped immediately after because when so the game was horrendous to watch.

Speaker 1 Caleb played really bad for three quarters.

Speaker 1 He played really great for the last quarter, had two touchdown drives, one two game-winning touchdown drives, one that was not a touchdown drive because we decided to hand the ball off to Doug Kramer.

Speaker 4 That was a wild call. That was just insane.
Wow. Watching that,

Speaker 4 it's tough what Bears fans have to go through with the coaching and the play calling this year. That's why you have a fullback.

Speaker 1 That's why you have a guy

Speaker 4 who's a fullback, or yeah, just a short-yardage running back.

Speaker 4 But you can't expect, you can put like a backup offensive lineman in the game and deputize him as a fullback and be like, just go block somebody, but you never give the ball to that guy unless it's like William Perry.

Speaker 1 He's even on defense. The best way I could describe that play was that was a play that you run when you're up three touchdowns and you're trying some fuck shit.

Speaker 1 Not a play that you run when your offense can't do absolutely anything for an entire game and you still have a chance to win the game and you decide to do that. That's not the time and place.

Speaker 1 But anyway, we can get to the coaching and all that shit because I got thoughts on that.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Hail Mary happens and I was at first I was just like, of course, because I kind of, we were sitting in the gambling cave, White Sox, Dave, who I love, but he was like, I'll never apologize for a win after the Bears scored a touchdown to go up,

Speaker 1 one. And I was like, dude, we got a two-point conversion and there's 23 seconds left.

Speaker 4 I thought my best hope at that point was to get a pick two on the two-point conversion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought a field goal was still in play just because, you know,

Speaker 1 you can get a bomb field goal. There's a timeout.
But I never thought it would be that.

Speaker 1 And the minute Jaden Daniels got like the second...

Speaker 1 like he scrambled and then he got a second scramble uh in the pocket i think i i think you can watch the video and I was like, oh no, oh no, because that means everyone's set up, everything's set up.

Speaker 1 And then to have it be a tip pass, just perfectly land into Noah Brown's hands.

Speaker 1 I went in what I would say is just shock.

Speaker 1 And like, I went up to my office and I was sitting there and my body, it felt like I had the fever, a fever, because my body was like overheating and it was just like numbness all around, like my legs were numb.

Speaker 1 And then I finally

Speaker 1 calmed down, or not calmed down, I was calm because I was numb.

Speaker 1 I finally came to, I want to say, and then I went online and saw Tyreek Stevenson waving to the Commanders fans and talking shit and then not doing his job, which was to be the guy covering Noah Brown in that situation.

Speaker 1 And I went numb again.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Tyreek Stevenson, he was talking shit to Terry McLaurin earlier in the game. I think he got a personal foul.
He did the point through a guy's face mask.

Speaker 4 That guy's a piece of shit. And then on the last play, he was definitely lined up on that side of the field with Noah Brown.
Didn't see the ball get snapped because he was waving at the fans.

Speaker 1 You can see Bears fans pointing to him to tell him to go fucking play the

Speaker 1 play.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good coaching.

Speaker 1 Go do your job.

Speaker 4 That were there. And so then he runs into the big mess of humanity, loses track to Noah Brown, who's the trailing guy who that's what he's supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 That's what Tyric Stevenson is supposed to be. He's supposed to be guarding him.
He's supposed to be behind.

Speaker 4 And yeah, there's just. He got to the ball first.

Speaker 4 yeah he did he put his left hand up yeah he saw where he was supposed to be though he was not supposed to be there it was uh it was a crazy last play so going back i thought jaden played really well today i thought he had an awesome game an outstanding game and the rib i have i have a theory that his rib was never actually hurt i think that After that first run of the Panthers game, the coaching staff was like, hey, Jaden, it's the Panthers.

Speaker 4 You just ran easily for 50 yards, first play of the game. Let Marcus take over, go to the training room, and then all week long, it was all secret.
They couldn't get a picture of the guy.

Speaker 4 He was like Bigfoot. You couldn't find him anywhere.
And then he gets out there and immediately starts running and running well with the ball. And he played awesome.

Speaker 4 The red zone often stinks, but I think maybe the working theory is just don't bother with the red zone. Just throw the ball from the opponent's 40-yard line every time, and that'll work out.

Speaker 4 So he held the ball for 12.7, yeah, 12.7 seconds on the Hail Mary that he threw, which is the longest.

Speaker 4 I think that's the longest in the history of next-gen stats stats to hang on to a ball before throwing a touchdown pass.

Speaker 1 And I just want to say, because I saw some Bears fans being like, what about the holds? Tyreek Stevenson negates all the holds.

Speaker 1 That's who you should be worried about.

Speaker 1 There's no, you know, we talk about all the time that when you have a call go against you and you do the screen grabs and you put, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 When you have a fucking defensive back not even paying attention to the play, that's where all the blame goes.

Speaker 1 And it goes to Eberflus and it goes to everyone on the coaching staff and the shit that they threw out there after a bye week uh but yeah that there's no you can't be like hold we had a fucking guy who wasn't even playing yeah uh I did see a couple of those screen grabs I saw some of those video clips if you're complaining about a minor hold on a Hail Mary just get over it again those are never called it doesn't even matter if it was it could have been the most egregious hold we had a guy not playing yeah you had a guy that was yelling that's the problem Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 That's a much, much bigger issue. But that, the last play,

Speaker 4 I thought the commanders were done, but he got the ball down the field a couple times. He took what the defense is giving him.
And then Tony Roma was dumbass.

Speaker 4 First of all, he jinxed her kicker the second before the kick was attempted. He's like, he hasn't missed all season.
He like snuck that in and then goes up, misses the field goal.

Speaker 4 And then Tony was like, I think they should put in Marcus Mariota to throw this Hail Mary. Fuck you, Tony.
You're wrong. Tony's very wrong.

Speaker 1 It was short.

Speaker 4 It was, yeah, it was a little bit short, but it. It ended up working out.
And I think that that is probably the happiest I've been. This is actually how sad my life as an NFL fan has been.

Speaker 4 I think that play that I just got to witness today, that is my happiest moment as an NFL fan since I've started watching football. Because the Redskins won a Super Bowl when I was like six.

Speaker 4 I don't remember that. I remember the celebration afterwards.
I maybe remember a little bit of it. But since then, you know what my second favorite memory is probably?

Speaker 4 Besides, obviously, Dan Snyder is still on the team. I don't count that as football, though.
It's off the field. On the field.
Monday Night Football.

Speaker 1 RG3.

Speaker 4 Monday Night Football was cool this year, but no,

Speaker 4 I would say, no, I would say winning a playoff game in Tampa, we beat Chris Sims, and we won 17-10. I think Mark Brunel had like 35 yards passing that game.
That,

Speaker 4 until today, was my best football memory. And then this was just...
It was.

Speaker 4 Sometimes, no matter how fucked up you are as an organization, sometimes there are guys, and I think that Jaden Daniels is one of those guys that he completely changes everything.

Speaker 4 Like, completely makes people take you seriously because he's that special and that good.

Speaker 4 It's like when North Korea got the atomic bomb. It's like, yeah, you guys are a ridiculous organization, but now we have to kind of respect you, give you some space.

Speaker 4 He's my atomic bomb, and he's so fucking good, and I love watching him play.

Speaker 1 I'm just a loser. I don't really know.
I don't, I mean, I'm happy for you. I'm a loser.
I've always been a loser. I'm a loser.
I don't. It was a terrible football weekend, start to finish.

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to be bad. It somehow was way worse.
And it was somehow, we talked about it on Friday being like, what would get the best ratings? What would get the most people watching?

Speaker 1 This is it.

Speaker 1 That ending was it. That was a dog shit game by the Bears.

Speaker 1 They're a joke. Iber Fluce comes out of the bye week.
I don't even know what they did during the bye week. There feels like it was no game plan.
Caleb was bad.

Speaker 1 I'll save for my positive spins for the end that you guys will think I'm crazy. But

Speaker 1 I'm a loser, and that was loser football. And Eberflus should be ashamed of himself, and Shane Waldron should be ashamed of himself.
And it's like, that's a game that was as ugly as ugly could be.

Speaker 1 The defense kept you in that game.

Speaker 1 They fucking kept on holding the commanders to field goals. And

Speaker 1 you somehow have a chance to win it, and then you just blow it because a guy's waving to the crowd and talking shit instead of doing his job. That's a joke.
That's an Eberflus thing.

Speaker 1 That's a top-down thing. Like, that's not, I know Tyreek Stevenson fucked up and he actually apologized on Twitter after, but like, that's a coaching thing.
Because he's a good player.

Speaker 1 That's a coaching thing. And I'm sick of him.
I'm sick of losing games that you should be able to win.

Speaker 1 And this was a game that we probably shouldn't even be able to win, but we somehow got in the spot where we could win it. And then it was just that.
So I'm a loser. I'm happy for you, though.

Speaker 1 You got the atomic bomb.

Speaker 4 Thank you. Before we started taping, we started discussing a little bit.
Then we realized, let's not.

Speaker 4 Say any of this before we start getting behind a microphone. I told Big Cat I felt bad for him because it's a tough way to lose a game.
And then he was like, Don't say you feel bad for me.

Speaker 4 You don't feel bad for me. He's right.
I don't think I actually do feel bad for him. No, it's something you just said.

Speaker 4 But I can also acknowledge that that's a very, very tough way to lose a football game.

Speaker 1 No, it's like when a co-worker's

Speaker 1 grandparent dies, you're like, I'm sorry for your loss.

Speaker 1 I never, like, yeah, I guess I am sorry for your loss, but I've never met them. And I, you know, you're just saying it.

Speaker 4 I understand. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that you're going through it.

Speaker 1 It is what it is. It's just like, I'm numb to it.
It was in in like this,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of season left, but that also is going to, I'm convinced that's going to be the game that's going to, I'm going to look back and be like, oh, they missed the playoffs because of this.

Speaker 1 And it's just, it sucks. It fucking sucks.

Speaker 4 And tattoo.

Speaker 1 And a tattoo, which that's just like a cherry on top.

Speaker 1 And I was saying before, it's like, I was going to maybe just get my like kids' initials or something, but then I'm like, oh, yeah, why'd you get that? Oh, because of a Hail Mary.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to, because Tyreek Stevenson's a fucking idiot. Yeah.
So I don't know what I'm going to get.

Speaker 9 How rattled were you, Peter? How distraught were you before the Hail Mary? Because,

Speaker 9 you know, you guys just went through the whole recap.

Speaker 9 The Bears were about to win that game. Like, somehow, as good as the Commanders played, and somehow as good as Jane Daniels played, you guys had 12 points.

Speaker 1 The Bears' defense is good. And we have a shitload of starters out, too.

Speaker 4 I said that after the second field goal. I was like, this is actually not good.
Like, our offense has been great, but it's not good that we have six points. I don't know.

Speaker 1 12 points is not great offense. Yeah, that's not great offense.

Speaker 4 I thought that our offense is moving the ball really, really well. We had a drop touchdown, and we had

Speaker 4 two illegal man-down field penalties that backed us up off what should have been like short red zone opportunities.

Speaker 4 It wasn't really the offense in terms of like getting the ball out and getting guys open and all that.

Speaker 4 It was making stupid penalty mistakes like we have in the past and just shooting ourselves in the foot.

Speaker 12 What were you going to say, Max?

Speaker 1 Don't say great.

Speaker 1 Because I mean, like,

Speaker 1 a penalty is not great. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 It's part of offense.

Speaker 1 And penalties are part of offense.

Speaker 4 I thought that, I mean, if you look how, I don't have the stats in front of me, but if you see how many yards we had in the first half, I think that we had great offense in the first half.

Speaker 4 I want to say we had like

Speaker 1 200 score touchdowns.

Speaker 4 What, 250 yards of offense?

Speaker 1 And 12 points. Great offense.

Speaker 4 I was scoring touchdowns. It was not good.
Like, the red zone was actually.

Speaker 1 My question was, how distraught were you before the Hailmayers?

Speaker 4 I was pretty distraught because it was a game that you should win based on how we played. And the fact that we just let him hang around and let him hang around until the very end.

Speaker 4 Honestly, like, I was very, very upset at that point. Because when the Bears had the ball with two minutes left, I was like, here's what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 They're going to score a touchdown and we're going to have 25 seconds left on the clock. And then you get the ball with 25 seconds, too much time for Jane Daniels.

Speaker 4 I didn't think he could do it. I thought that was impossible.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm a loser.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Bears' defense played great. They played great because they had no help.
The Bears' offense did nothing,

Speaker 1 never sustained a drive.

Speaker 9 Was the commander's offense greater than the Bears' defense was great?

Speaker 4 I think so. I don't know.

Speaker 1 They both played great. I mean, they didn't score touchdowns.

Speaker 9 Who played greater?

Speaker 1 The Bears' defense kept him in this game.

Speaker 1 The Bears' offense did not do

Speaker 1 shit for three quarters. Not a single thing where they didn't get first downs.
They were giving bad field position. They were just doing everything bad outside of turning the ball over.

Speaker 1 And the Bears' defense just kept on answering the bell and making sure that they kept it a one-score game for a long time, a two-score, or, you know, it was a two-score game for a little bit.

Speaker 1 But like that, that game, if the Bears' defense doesn't play the way they do, it would have been a blowout because the Bears' offense just didn't do shit for literally three quarters.

Speaker 4 They kept them out of the end zone. Yeah.
They did a very good job.

Speaker 1 That's a very good job of that. That's great defense to keep them out of the end zone.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Great defense and great offense at the same time.

Speaker 1 I refuse to say great offense.

Speaker 2 12 points is not great offense.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 Listen, I agree.

Speaker 4 You need to score touchdowns

Speaker 4 inside the red zone. That was very, very bad.
Our offense was very bad inside the red zone. I'll say that.
We were great in between the 20s.

Speaker 2 I'm okay with you.

Speaker 2 I'm okay with you saying that.

Speaker 4 We were all-time great in between the 20s.

Speaker 4 And then you get in the 20s and you become all-time bad.

Speaker 1 But that's great defense.

Speaker 4 That's when the defense became great.

Speaker 4 It was just great football. It's funny that we keep saying great because it was not great football.

Speaker 1 No, it was bad football.

Speaker 4 It was a bad game. It was a very boring game until the last 10 minutes of it.

Speaker 1 So here's the crazy part. This is for Bears fans only.

Speaker 1 Listen, Caleb was bad for three quarters. Dog shit.
The offense was so, so bad. I don't know what...

Speaker 1 Again, I don't know what the bye week was for when you didn't even have, like, it felt like there was no flow. It felt like there was no, like, hey, here's a mismatch.

Speaker 1 Cole Komet wasn't they they didn't target cole commet ever the offensive line is is a disaster i understand that everyone always uses that as an easy excuse it is obviously a problem and we had more injuries on it but it is what it is like we know the offensive line sucks it's not like you went into this game being like oh our offensive line is going to all of a sudden be good

Speaker 1 Caleb, what he did in the fourth quarter is why I'm not selling any of my stock in him. I know people will be like, he sucks.
He's a bum. He's a bust.
I got about a billion tweets of that.

Speaker 1 I don't care what what he was doing in the fourth quarter. That throw to DJ Moore hanging in there where he's got no time getting killed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not. And then he threw that sidearm underhand one.
I'm not going to change my opinion on Caleb Williams. I did change my opinion.
Well, I didn't change my opinion.

Speaker 1 I just reaffirmed my opinion that this coaching staff is a joke and we need to get rid of them as soon as possible because it's like

Speaker 1 they're a joke. They're a joke.
Like, that's a bye week. You come out of a bye week looking like that.
I don't know what the fuck that was.

Speaker 1 And the Doug Kramer handoff is just an all-time, all-time.

Speaker 1 Has he taken other handoffs? No, he's been. So this all goes to week three

Speaker 1 in Indianapolis. Week three against Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 We had the

Speaker 1 set of a series on first and goal where Shane Waldron called just terrible. He called like a wildcat play.
He called an option play to the short side. He just did terrible job play calling.

Speaker 1 And the offense went and was like, dude, you got got to fix this next couple weeks every time we got on goal line it was the same thing just run the ball with Roshan up the middle doug kramer would come in as a fullback so he was like hey here's my new wrinkle I'm gonna hand the ball off to Doug Kramer and it's like it's I actually feel bad for Doug Kramer because he's like dude you're you're not a running back you you shouldn't be put in that spot again that's a play where if you're like trying if you're if you're up by And now we're in fantasy land.

Speaker 1 If you're up by three touchdowns against the Packers, you're like, ha ha, Doug Kramer. It's the fridge.
But it's just, it was so stupid.

Speaker 1 And I just, this team is just, it's, they constantly lose games like this. And it's just a joke of a staff.
And the bye week just, but I'm not, I'm a little bit more,

Speaker 1 I'm not as upset as I was right in the moment after.

Speaker 1 The defense will keep us in pretty much every game. You saw it today.

Speaker 4 The defense is going to keep us in every game.

Speaker 1 Caleb was really bad for three full quarters. And if he plays even like B-minus football, I think we win this game before we even get to the Hail Mary.
He didn't.

Speaker 1 He played D minus, F plus, and then in the fourth, he played like A minus football, and he was great, and it was too little, too late, and Tyreek Stevenson. So yeah, I'm a loser.

Speaker 4 The big question I had about the commanders is their defense, because their defense has sucked. Like when I say sucked, I mean like bottom two, bottom three in the league at times.

Speaker 4 Today, the defense did play great. First half, great defense by the commanders.
I thought that whatever Dan Quinn's doing, he's figured something out.

Speaker 4 They don't have the guys, they don't have the talent on defense, but they're playing really, really hard.

Speaker 4 The scheme is adjusted because Dan knows what kind of people he has in the secondary, and he knows what they're good at, what they're not good at.

Speaker 4 They're not good at having Emmanuel Forbes on the field,

Speaker 4 and they're not good at a lot of other stuff initially, and now somehow they've managed to turn around and become a pretty decent defense. So,

Speaker 4 I hope that part of it keeps up.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I mean, and you said, I think in the middle of the game, you're like, where's this pass rush coming from? And I was like, the Bears' offensive line cannot block.

Speaker 1 I mean, we had a couple more injuries uh it's just it's a it's a mass unit and it's just it's it's ugly it's ugly right now watching their offensive line try to block and uh yeah i don't i don't know i'm a loser i don't know what else to say i'm a loser tore taylor was awesome tori taylor is awesome he should get pepsi rookie of the week there's really good players on the bears team and they just can't like this was a game that

Speaker 1 was so ugly and they somehow found a way to persevere and then that happens.

Speaker 1 So inexcusable because that was going to be like an all-time, how the fuck did they win that game playing as bad as they did offensively?

Speaker 1 And proving my point of like, hey,

Speaker 1 this defense is going to keep, is going to basically allow Caleb Williams to have games where he looks like a rookie for three quarters.

Speaker 1 But then that happens, and then it's all for lost. So I don't know.

Speaker 4 I mean, it was an insane end to the game. And when we had Jaden on the podcast back in, I think that was about a year ago, memes, what did you ask him?

Speaker 4 Ask him how far he could throw.

Speaker 4 throw how far he could throw and what did he say he said about 70 that's awesome that's so good and i've watched that play probably like i'm gonna say conservatively 60 times and i've watched every iteration that play from every fan angle from every tv angle i watched the uh the spanish uh version of it where they had it on telemundo the announcers doing that call i saw i even watched the dots that's that's how sick that play was is i watched the dot thing that everybody posts about and act they act like it's like super animal did they show the pre-game like the before snap dot?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, they have it like at the snap.

Speaker 9 They don't have before when he's like waving to the crowd.

Speaker 4 I don't know if they had, there was no hand on the dot that was waving, but dot talk,

Speaker 4 the dot, even the dots were great on that play. I'm gonna watch that play probably a hundred times tomorrow and for the rest of my life.
It was shocking.

Speaker 4 I've never, like, I've literally never experienced joy like that watching a football game. Isn't that sad?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But it's kind of awesome. But I'm happy for you.
Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 1 Do you guys have any other questions?

Speaker 4 Max has a question. You can tell.

Speaker 2 Well, no, I had no questions.

Speaker 4 I was just watching Pig Cat during that.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm a loser. I don't know what else to say.
I'm happy for PFT. I just didn't come at my expense, but like, it is what it is.
Like, we're, like, we're, the Bears are a loser organization.

Speaker 1 Like, I think Caleb Williams can change that, but this is another reminder of, like, and I just, I can't get over the coaching staff and their plan out of a bye week. A bye week.

Speaker 1 Like, you got to look better than that out of a fucking bye week and it's just

Speaker 1 it's just insanely frustrating insanely insanely frustrating because like those games the games where you don't play good enough to win but then you find a way to win that's when like those are the games that you you got to have a couple of those if you want to go to the playoffs and like that they had it and then tyreek stevenson decided to talk to the crowd and the momentum of like winning a game you should have lost yeah right versus right it would have been an all-time how did we win this game holy shit this defense like we're ready to roll let's go face the nfc north yeah right and now it's just like okay now next week against the cardinals who are looking very good that's a must-win game knowing what you have in the schedule and it's just you just can't you can't have that you just can't fucking do that i thought there was a chance uh because you did go upstairs for a while that you might have just done the Michael Scott and just like walked to the train tracks and tried to get on a train for a minute.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about just going home. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 it was an extended, an extended show.

Speaker 1 Well, I was doing, I was prepping for the show, but yeah,

Speaker 1 I definitely was like, what if I just go home? Like,

Speaker 1 what would change if I just go home? We just don't do a pod.

Speaker 4 There'd be a lot of very angry people out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I'm here. I'm here facing the music.
It sucks. It just sucks.
Tyreek Stevenson, what the fuck are you doing? Matt Eberflues, what are you doing? Shane Waldron, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 It's very strange because I'm so, so happy, and I understand why Big Cat's not.

Speaker 4 And it's just, it's a weird, it's a weird vibe.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, you should be happy.

Speaker 1 That was an incredible all-time win. I'm a little upset at the, our offense was great comment, but that's fine.
We moved the ball in a great

Speaker 4 score touchdown.

Speaker 4 Which I said, I said that the red zone offense was very, very bad. Atrocious.
Worse than atrocious.

Speaker 1 I can admit, Caleb Williams sucked for three quarters.

Speaker 4 Our red zone

Speaker 4 was disgustingly bad today. Disgustingly bad.
I never want to see it again. But I do think that the offense played really, really well.
I thought that in the first half, they moved the ball so well.

Speaker 1 It just sucked in the end score.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams had two game-winning drives.

Speaker 1 I guess that's the only positive I'd have, and neither of them counted for game-winning drives. It's fucking stupid.
That was like literally something I said to myself.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, yeah, he had two game-winning drives. No, he didn't.
He actually had none because we didn't win. And also, he didn't, we handed the ball off to Doug Kramer.

Speaker 4 That sounds like a guy who's like 50.

Speaker 1 He would have been a legend. He was a legend when he was blocking for Roshan the last couple of weeks.
Everyone loved it.

Speaker 4 Isn't he the guy that's from Chicago, too? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he's Hinsdale.
It's just, it's fucking the whole thing. Is he the Yale guy?

Speaker 9 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I don't think Doug Kramer went to Yale.

Speaker 9 Different guy. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure

Speaker 1 Kramer went to Illinois.

Speaker 4 That's Waldron's fault, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 How much? What percentage do you blame Eberflus for?

Speaker 1 I blame Eberflus a lot more for the Tyreek Stevenson than I do the Doug Kramer. Waldron's the Doug Kramer.
He keeps calling the plays.

Speaker 1 He's the one who installed that in the bye week and was like, watch this. It was fuck him up.

Speaker 4 It was a genuinely insane play call to make in that situation. It's third down.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's third down. You get two shots to run the ball up the gut for a touchdown.
Why? Why?

Speaker 4 Hank, did you see Dan Quinn do the double fist pump?

Speaker 1 I get it now. It's perfectly normal.

Speaker 4 I get it now. In a moment of just pure ecstasy, the double fist pump, it occurs.
It's like the going into fetal position happens when you're afraid naturally.

Speaker 4 The opposite of that is the double fist pump.

Speaker 4 When you're so pumped, that's the only thing you can do is two pumps.

Speaker 1 The last two things I had, one is they had a sideline view of Caleb watching it happen. I don't know if you guys caught it, but like

Speaker 1 the funniest part, not funny, but Keenan Allen was just smiling because

Speaker 1 he's a Charger and he was just like, dude, this happens to me every time. Like, this is the Charger shit right here.

Speaker 1 And the other thing is, and again, I know that people are going to call me crazy and stupid, but it's for Bears fans only.

Speaker 1 I'm not changing anything I think about Caleb Williams. He had a really bad first three quarters and a really good fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 And you win games in the fourth quarter, and he did enough in the fourth quarter to win that game.

Speaker 1 And then the defense, which did keep him in the game, had a lapse in Tyreek Stevenson that just fucking sucks. So, yeah.
Anything else?

Speaker 1 I'm also just mad that Memes got to smile in my face because Memes, we're going to get to the Jets. He is, he was, his season is over.
His team is a disaster.

Speaker 1 But Memes, for everyone who knows, for people who want to know how this works, Memes literally just got like his quota for like views and clips and everything for the year based on that game.

Speaker 1 He's like a cop at the end of a month just sitting there getting people on speeding tickets. He literally could just be like,

Speaker 1 see these numbers? Boom. And like half of them are from the Hail Mary.
And he's like, where's my raise?

Speaker 4 I think it's interesting that memes doesn't tag us in

Speaker 1 the same amount of interaction.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I know that I've been tagged by memes when I'm at my lowest points after a bad loss. He'll tag the fuck out of me.

Speaker 1 But it's

Speaker 1 last month.

Speaker 1 I did this with Hank last month.

Speaker 12 Everything was positive.

Speaker 7 So show me yours.

Speaker 4 They shout your failures. They whisper your accomplishments, memes.

Speaker 1 I love this meme.

Speaker 13 So if you sucked off, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 But that's

Speaker 1 who?

Speaker 1 By everybody online. And then you come in and you're like, oh, I feel bad for you guys.
Like, you don't have my. Yeah, that was.
Oh, don't do that.

Speaker 4 Don't do that.

Speaker 1 You are getting sucked off.

Speaker 4 You are. I might.

Speaker 1 You've been getting sucked off.

Speaker 1 I've been getting buried. Memes getting buried.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was a great, great afternoon for me, for sure.

Speaker 1 A million percent. But you don't have to say you feel bad for anyone.
I retracted that.

Speaker 4 I do acknowledge it. It's a shitty way to lose a lot of food.
I feel bad for a football football football game. It's a bad way to lose a football game.

Speaker 9 If I may, PFT, I know you're not used to winning.

Speaker 9 This is the greatest accomplishment of your life. It's like a week six regular season game win.
Yep.

Speaker 8 It's not week six.

Speaker 9 If you're going to have that winning mentality and you're going to actually make

Speaker 9 progress in the playoffs,

Speaker 9 you should be mad after as you should be like happy with the win but you should not be like we played great and we had a great offense like you guys lost that game you guys lost the game where the bears played like dog shit I'll be coachable and again as lost I need to learn and you got lucky but like for you to be like oh it's great best day of my life like you got it you got to think about the some of the some of the things you got to fix I know I definitely do and like

Speaker 4 I said after the Bengals game I'm working on building a personal winning culture for myself there's a lot I don't know about winning I don't know how to handle it I can't act like I've been there before.

Speaker 4 I've never been there before. So, thank you.
To have Hank is like my shaman guiding me through this trip on how to deal with success is very helpful.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Max?

Speaker 2 Do we remember a conversation that we had in the past with

Speaker 2 a fan of a shitty organization saying that they feel bad for the organization?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, BFT did a billy to me.

Speaker 1 I said it's a billionaire. He billied me.
No, I said it's billied me.

Speaker 4 I said it's a bad way to lose a football game.

Speaker 1 I didn't billy you. You did say that.
No, no, Billy would would. How many times do you feel bad for you?

Speaker 4 But am I not allowed to actually see that my friend Big Cat is just going through the worst shit ever?

Speaker 1 No, I don't

Speaker 1 think you're a bad person.

Speaker 9 But it's at your expense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should be so excited. I know your fault.
That's what makes you so weak. I don't need you to say you feel bad for me.
I feel bad for me enough. Okay.
More than enough. Okay.
I'm just

Speaker 4 thinking that it's a bad way to lose a football game.

Speaker 1 But it does hurt when you're like, I feel bad for you.

Speaker 1 That's hurtful.

Speaker 9 You should be saying, I feel bad for us that we almost lost you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Memes.
What are you going to do? I'm working on this. It just keeps pointing at it.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 4 Don't you don't call me the minute. Don't keep it.

Speaker 1 It's good for a minute. It is just.

Speaker 4 No, honestly, I wasn't trying to say it in that way. I was saying that it's just a shitty thing.
It's a shitty thing.

Speaker 1 You don't have to say anything. Our teams play each other.
But you don't think it's a shitty thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Our teams played each other. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 No, I'm happy that it happened, but I'm saying it's a shitty way to lose a football.

Speaker 1 But I don't need you

Speaker 1 because we played each other.

Speaker 1 There's only going to be one winner.

Speaker 4 No, I absolutely would not take it back. After when the Hail Mary landed, I got up.
I freaked out for a second. Then I looked around just trying to find somebody that was also a Commanders fan.

Speaker 4 And then I realized I'm in Chicago. I think Eddie was crying.

Speaker 1 No, Eddie, we all just ran. All of us ran.
Eddie was gone. Chief was gone.

Speaker 1 White Sox Dave, I think, got out of there so fast because he knows what he did by saying, I'll never apologize for a win with 23 seconds left.

Speaker 9 Me, memes, and Max were popping confetti.

Speaker 4 I turned around. I was like running around like Jimmy V V looking for somebody to hug, and nobody would hug me.
And then I looked back, and

Speaker 4 Hank, memes, and Max were all had the same expression, just like their mouth open, just like staring at me. And I was just like, hey, guys, this is good.

Speaker 4 And then my mom called and she was like, I think I'm going to have a stroke. That was amazing.

Speaker 1 I was like, cool, mom, don't have a stroke.

Speaker 2 I have another thing that I was like, you know, that's like a lucky play, right?

Speaker 1 Yo, yeah, 100%. Okay.
But kept letting me go. And the pass was short.
And the pass was short.

Speaker 7 That's just a lucky play.

Speaker 2 Like, any quarterback can make that throw.

Speaker 4 Well, Jaden made it.

Speaker 1 But he also made it. But, like,

Speaker 7 it's just a lucky play.

Speaker 4 That's what I...

Speaker 4 He's my A-bomb.

Speaker 1 It was short of the end zone.

Speaker 4 Everything about the guy. I don't know what it is.
Everything about him.

Speaker 1 I love him. That play was way less about Jaden Daniels and way more about the Bears' incompetency as an organization.

Speaker 9 Not to mention the holds.

Speaker 1 The holds do not fucking matter, Hank. It was Tyreek Stevenson being a fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 All-time, all-time stupid, stupid play.

Speaker 4 I went from being very upset with the team to just being like,

Speaker 4 this is heroin. No, you deserve it.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a great moment for you.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Should we go to the rest of the games? Did we get enough blood?

Speaker 4 Don't let memes divide us.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 1 I have not said, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 The only thing I disagreed with that you've said so far was that you had great offense. That was the only thing.

Speaker 1 That doesn't really check out when the Bears were able to hold you out of the end zone until a Hail Mary. But everything else,

Speaker 1 you guys deserve to win that game. The Bears did not deserve to win that game.
They fucking sucked for the majority of that game.

Speaker 1 The vast majority. That would have been a lucky win the other way if the Bears had done it.
It would have been like, how the fuck did they win that game? Because they were a joke.

Speaker 1 Again, off a bye week.

Speaker 1 What did they do during the bye week? Like, Andy Reid gets off a bye week and he just kills people. That's what happens.
Matt Eberflus gets off a bye week and they run dog shit plays for

Speaker 1 three quarters, which I guess Matty Braflus is a defensive coordinator or you know he's he's in charge of defense so kudos to him. You know, great job, dude.

Speaker 1 If he wants to be defensive coordinator next year when Ben Johnson's our head coach, I'll be fine with that. He can keep his parking spot.

Speaker 1 And then he had like tone-deaf things after the game where he was just like, you know, there's a lot of positives to take from this. Shut the fuck up, dude.
There's no positives.

Speaker 1 You lost in the most embarrassing fashion possible.

Speaker 1 Just go up there, take your fucking medicine, and realize that yet again, you lose a game that you should win because you're just not prepared as a football team.

Speaker 4 Guess the line, Cardinals.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Cardinals are good. Whose lines is anyway?

Speaker 1 They're not top of the NSC West anyway. Where's the game?

Speaker 1 It's in Arizona. Whose lines anyway? Brought to you by DraftKings.

Speaker 4 Cardinals minus one.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say Cardinals minus three.

Speaker 9 PFT keeps winning.

Speaker 1 Cardinals minus one. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to the rest of the games where we can have some fun because we do have fun to talk about. It was a great witching hour.
Browns 29. Ravens 24.

Speaker 1 Jameis Winston is 1-0 as a Browns starter. Jameis Winston is the fucking best.
Jameis Winston

Speaker 1 broke the 20-point mark for the Browns. Jameis Winston had

Speaker 1 the last two offensive plays for the Browns was the full Jameis Winston experience where he tried to throw an interception to Kyle Hamilton.

Speaker 1 And then the next play was like, fuck it, 38-yard bomb to Cedric Tillman, touchdown game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was an easy pick that Hamilton had. He bobbled it like three or four times.

Speaker 1 He was playing Keepy Up even in the bluey game.

Speaker 4 Jameis got a little short memory. He gets back there and he's like, fuck it, I'm going to gun it.
And man, he threw the ball all around today. I think there were four guys.

Speaker 4 Yeah, four guys with 60-plus yards on the Browns. He was slinging it.
He was slinging it. Tillman.
Tillman is a player that's on the Browns that everybody just completely forgot about. Yes.

Speaker 4 They had Cooper that had to eat too.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Jameis was awesome from the second he stepped foot inside that stadium until the second he left. He just delivered.
He delivered everything that you want from Jameis.

Speaker 4 He had not one, but two awesome banger pregame speeches. He had

Speaker 4 obviously what he did in the game, which is just throw the fuck out of the ball and be like, I'm going to find Njoku down there and I'm going to throw it as hard as I can at his hands.

Speaker 4 And then after the game, he name-checked Eminem

Speaker 4 and just quoted Eminem in his post-game interview. He said, let's see, he said, like, we got, there's a white boy from Detroit that I really admire named Eminem.
He said, you only got one shot.

Speaker 4 Do not miss your chance to blow this opportunity last once in a lifetime.

Speaker 4 It was just pure Jameis.

Speaker 1 It was the best. It was the best.
The Browns look like a competent football team. And

Speaker 1 it's crazy because Jameis, Deshaun Watson already had the worst contract in football, probably in history.

Speaker 1 Louisiana Purchase. Yeah, maybe Louisiana Purchase.
And Jameis Winston today made it somehow even worse because it just shows that the Browns are not a bad football team.

Speaker 1 They just had Deshaun Watson as their quarterback. It's so crazy.
The last

Speaker 1 seven games that Deshaun Watson didn't play, six of those last seven games, the Browns had a 300-yard passer.

Speaker 1 And the seventh was week 18 last year when they started Jeff Driscoll because they'd already clinched the playoff. So every single time they don't start Deshaun Watson, their offense works.

Speaker 1 And then when Deshaun Watson plays, they can't score 20 points and they look like dog shit. It just further proves how horrifically awful the Deshaun Watson contract was.

Speaker 1 But Jameis, you have Jameis, like the Browns, Jameis can do anything.

Speaker 4 Everyone plays like a half step faster on both sides of the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The defense is fine.

Speaker 4 I can't tell if it's Jameis or if it's not Deshaun. I think it's probably a combination of the two.
Jameis like the ultimate interim coach, but for quarterback.

Speaker 1 It's the perfect combo.

Speaker 4 He's the best interim quarterback. And then you step in for Deshaun and then everybody's just so much happier to be at work.
Yes. They work a little bit harder.
Yes.

Speaker 4 And it was also Halloween week for Miles Garrett, who showed up dressed like the Terminator. Yeah, Whiteface.
Yeah, well, Robotface. Robot Face.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he had a makeup artist come over for like, how long did it take? An hour?

Speaker 1 Two hours?

Speaker 4 All just for that walk, just for that walk into the stadium. Good for Cleveland.
I'm happy for Cleveland fans.

Speaker 4 And this proves our point that Jimmy Haslam should be investigated for crimes, given that he not only gave that contract out, but then forced Kevin Stefanski to play Deshaun Watson as long as he did.

Speaker 4 Jimmy Haslam should be investigated for point shaving.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And now the Browns, yeah, their offense looked competent, and Jameis was throwing around.
I know their offensive line got healthier. Nick Chubb is, he didn't have like a monster game,

Speaker 1 but he feels like he's getting back into health. And I mean, the Browns are probably too far deep in the hole to get out of it, but I would just love to see Jameis go on a little bit of a run here.

Speaker 1 Like, I would love to see Jameis. Who do they got next? I think they actually play, I think they play our Chargers.
Yeah, they do. So we're going to have to root it.

Speaker 1 We're going to root for whoever. We're going to root for Jameis, and the Chargers win in a Jameis ballout session.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so this is from our very good friend, Jameis one of one. You knew he'd be all over.

Speaker 1 Oh, of course.

Speaker 4 He says, since 2021, due to a torn ACL, broken back, and ruptured paranoia tendon, Jameis Winston has had just nine healthy starts. Here's what he's done.

Speaker 1 Sean Payton,

Speaker 4 five and two, 15 touchdowns, three picks. With Dennis Allen, 1-0, 2 touchdowns, no picks.
With Stefanski, 1-0 with 3 touchdowns and no interceptions.

Speaker 4 He's 7-2 with 20 total touchdowns and 3 interceptions.

Speaker 1 Let's play a game real quick because this is ⁇ Jameis needs to be a starter in the league next year, week one.

Speaker 1 Just looking at the teams,

Speaker 1 going through it. Bills, obviously not.
Dolphins, I mean, if Tua gets another game, I could see him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Patriots, Drake May. Jets, they should absolutely sign Jameis.
That would be an upgraded quarterback.

Speaker 1 Steelers. Steelers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Steelers.

Speaker 1 That would be, I mean, Jameis put ball there.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's the exact opposite of every quarterback the Steelers have had in recent memory. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Colts would be great. Yeah.
Titans would be great.

Speaker 1 Raiders.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a lot of teams. Giants.

Speaker 4 Just add Jameis.

Speaker 1 Panthers, Saints.

Speaker 1 Go back to New Orleans. Yeah.
Like, just add Jameis.

Speaker 4 Since the office. It's that simple.
Add Jameis and have fun.

Speaker 1 As for the Ravens,

Speaker 1 it was a weird game because they, like, the Ravens' offense, the Browns' defense played well. The Ravens' offense was still good.
They just felt like they dropped so many balls.

Speaker 1 Rashad Bateman, even that ball where he was just standing there by himself, and he actually pointed to the sun

Speaker 1 right after. I love that.

Speaker 1 And it was like one of those weird Lamar games where just a couple, like he played well, but like there was a couple plays, a couple third downs that just didn't, whether it be a drop ball or the pass rush.

Speaker 1 So like I'm not worried about the Ravens, but it was one of those games, it was just a very Ravens game. So much so that the Ravens now,

Speaker 1 since 2022, that is their eighth loss when leading inside two minutes of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're the worst team to close out a game.

Speaker 1 It was so Ravens. Like you walk away from that game, you're like, no, the Ravens aren't bad, but they just something, like they have these weird games where it's just like, I don't know what happens.

Speaker 1 They move the ball, and everything works. And their secondary is bad.
They're also very injured because they had Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins out, but their secondary is bad.

Speaker 1 I mean, Eddie Jackson was getting abused by Cedric Tillman.

Speaker 1 But the Ravens, I'm not worried about. It was just a very Ravens game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and also they've got a kicker that's washed up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Justin Tucker. This game might go different if he hits that kick, right?

Speaker 4 You never know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Lamar can only beat the NFC. That's what people are saying.

Speaker 1 He is a little washed up. Who do the Ravens have next week? They're probably going to beat the fuck out of someone, right?

Speaker 4 Let's see. The Ravens have...

Speaker 1 The Ravens have to have the two weirdest losses. The Broncos.
Oh, that's actually going to be a tough game. Yeah, the Ravens.
They've lost the Raiders and they've lost to the Browns.

Speaker 4 All over the map. They lost to the Chiefs barely.
They lost to the Raiders and they lost to the Browns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then they kill everyone else.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm not worried about him, but it was just a very Ravens loss. And I'm just happy for Jameis.
I'm very happy for Jameis. Yeah, I'm happy for him.
I'm happy for Kevin Stevan.

Speaker 4 I'm happy for football. Somebody said that Jameis should host Family Feud, right? Is that what you guys were saying? That'd be great.
Jameis should host every game show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He would be a fortune.
He'd be a great. Yeah, he's the next Steve Harvey.

Speaker 4 Love is Blonde.

Speaker 1 He would be great.

Speaker 4 Color Daddy?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He should host every show.

Speaker 1 Is that a game show?

Speaker 4 It can be. Can be.

Speaker 4 You can win millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 the Rave, or sorry, the Browns, I am happy for Kevin Stefanski as well, just because he gets to be like, hey, I'm not a bad coach. I was just forced to start Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, Kevin Stefansky, if he was unemployed, if he got fired, there would be like seven teams that would want to hire him. I'd take him.

Speaker 4 Most teams would try to fire their coach that they weren't planning on firing if it meant they could get Kevin Stefansky.

Speaker 1 Kevin Stavansky, come to Chicago. And Vrabel.
Good for Vrabes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Was he on the sidelines today? I don't know. Because I think he was on the sidelines last week, too, and he told us in the offseason that he wasn't going to be.

Speaker 1 I think for home games he is.

Speaker 4 No, I thought he said that he wasn't going to go to the stadium. Oh.

Speaker 4 And then he was there last week.

Speaker 1 He can't stay away from football.

Speaker 4 And he was there this week. Jamison Vraves.

Speaker 1 He can't stay away from football. Loving that.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Eagles 37.
Bengals, 17. Max.
The Eagles are back. That was a shit kicking.
That was a shit pumping.

Speaker 1 What do you want to say?

Speaker 2 There's not really much to say.

Speaker 2 It was a domination on all fronts.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts played great.

Speaker 2 Jalen Hurts has been playing great the past couple games.

Speaker 1 He has. He ran for three touchdowns.
He had that dime to Devontae Smith. I think he only had like four incompletions in the whole game, and it was all in the first quarter.

Speaker 2 The second half, he was 9 for 9, 150 yards, and

Speaker 1 two touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, they look good.

Speaker 4 Really good.

Speaker 4 They look really good on offense.

Speaker 1 And I think the Vic Fangio defense has started to work. That's the big thing.

Speaker 2 I think it takes a little bit for the guys to get used to the new scheme, but I think that they're.

Speaker 2 Cooper DeGene playing slot has changed the defense.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. That play,

Speaker 1 that stick he had on Jamar Chase on the fourth and one was incredible. That also was

Speaker 1 the Bengals are in deep, deep water now. They couldn't run the ball today, which credit to the Eagles' defense, but that was like you're fourth and one and you're doing a swing pass to Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 It's a pretty good sign you're not feeling comfortable about your run game. The Bengals,

Speaker 1 I'm never going to give up on Joe Burrow, but it does feel a little bit like Monty Python, where he's like every game afterwards. He said today that 10 wins gets you in, so they got to win 7 out of 9,

Speaker 1 and that's doable.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 1 But it's just going to keep going.

Speaker 4 Keep going Saturn, Saturn math. Bengals are going to be taunted, absolutely haunted by the in the hunt graphic later on this season.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Because they probably will win enough games to be mathematically not eliminated.

Speaker 4 And they're going to just keep being like, well, maybe, maybe if I fuck around with the ESPN playoff machine for two hours at at a time, I can figure out a combination that gets us there.

Speaker 4 But yeah, they've lost too many must-wins. Yeah.
They've lost like three must-wins, which is, I think that's one two. You can lose two must-wins and still win.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I feel like they're cooked at this point.

Speaker 1 Now, Max, grade this statement. Is it the Bengals

Speaker 1 last two wins against the Browns and the Giants? Now it's like, ooh, that was Fool's Gold.

Speaker 1 Or is now the, are the Eagles now swept up in the Fool's Gold? I thought it was. Because the Bengals are just as good.

Speaker 2 I said that to somebody. I was like, do the Bengals badges?

Speaker 1 Do the Bengals think?

Speaker 2 Do you think the Bengals are really bad?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you just ran the gauntlet of just you just beat all the

Speaker 1 Giants, the Browns with Deshaun, and the Bengals, who the Bengals could only beat the Browns with Deshaun and the Giants.

Speaker 2 And then we played the Jags next week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you never get an answer.

Speaker 1 I think the Eagles are good.

Speaker 2 I think there are a lot of bad teams in the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 The AFC, I think I saw the stat. I think 37% of the AFC has two wins or less.

Speaker 4 Are you serious? Yeah. Let's see.
That's actually crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, there's the entire AFC East, except the Bills, has two wins. The Browns, the Jaguars, Titans, and the Raiders.
So that's three,

Speaker 1 four, that's seven teams.

Speaker 4 What's crazy is this game was pretty close until like, what, 10 minutes left in the third quarter?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then it was just switched.

Speaker 4 And then it was all Eagles starting at, yeah, for most of the third quarter and all the fourth. I think it was a tie.
It was a tie game in the third.

Speaker 4 And then we started thinking about what if they tied again and we make it three out of five ties between these two teams. And then the Eagles just said, no, we're just going to

Speaker 4 just throw deep.

Speaker 4 I mean, having Devontae Smith back is so huge.

Speaker 1 He's amazing.

Speaker 2 And Andrew Brown. And then you just have Saquon, too, that can just, like, he rushed for over 100 yards today, and I feel like he didn't even do anything.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he felt like a non-factor.

Speaker 2 It was just a quiet, let me go get 22 carries, 108 yards. And it's like, oh, yeah, that's just Saquon.

Speaker 1 And I do think it's very cute that you call him Quan.

Speaker 1 I like when you yell in the case, go, Quan. Go.
Yeah. It's cute.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He would probably want to get his boys more yards.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good guy.

Speaker 1 I do think the Eagles are good.

Speaker 1 I'm never going to give up on the Bengals, which is probably going to be a fatal flaw this year.

Speaker 1 Just being like, the Bengals are going to be fine. The Bengals are going to be fine.

Speaker 1 Their defense was good against the Giants, and the Browns was not good today.

Speaker 1 They couldn't get a pass rush.

Speaker 1 The Eagles' offensive line bullied them, and you just kind of reverted back to

Speaker 1 their defense just doesn't, like, if they're not playing Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson, they're going to struggle.

Speaker 4 What's just crazy, though, is they're, what, now, one and are they one and four or 0-4 at home?

Speaker 1 They're 0-4 at home. 0-4 at home.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's generally the sign of a bad team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're 0-4 at home, and

Speaker 1 they've got to win 7 out of 9. 7 out of 9.

Speaker 1 Joe did the math. 7 out of 9,

Speaker 1 and the Eagles are good. Max, it's okay to say the Eagles are good.
I want you to get your hopes back up.

Speaker 2 I think I started this off by saying I'm all the way back. I don't want to say I'm all the way back, though.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 why not all the way back? What's a road? Why wouldn't you want to say that?

Speaker 1 If we beat the shit out of the Commanders on Thursday night football in three weeks. When is that game?

Speaker 4 That's

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving. Okay.
Perm bet?

Speaker 4 It's a perm bet. Perm bet.
You're going to do a tattoo bet?

Speaker 1 Perm. No, perm.
Perm bet. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I'll get it done immediately if we lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You can take your time. You can take as much time as I took.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I'll do it. All right.
Well, feel good, Max. The Eagles are back.

Speaker 2 No, yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 I'll be sleeping well tonight.

Speaker 4 You guys got the Jaguars next week. Yeah, Yeah, so like you said, who cares if you win that game, right? And then you've got the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 That game's going to mean something to you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, always.

Speaker 2 The Cowboys will always mean something. But it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 It's a two-team race in the NFC East. That's not true.

Speaker 1 What? Maybe. It is.
Maybe it's true. You think the Cowboys are.

Speaker 2 I don't know. The Cowboys could go on a run.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Next game, Falcons, 31 Bucks, 26.

Speaker 1 The Falcons, they tried to blow this game, but the Falcons now have a stranglehold on the NFC South.

Speaker 1 They're 4-0 against the NFC South. They're 2-0 against the Bucs.
Kirk Cousins has eight touchdown passes against the Bucs. Todd Bowles, I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 Because the Bucs going to this game is like the Bucs don't have Godwin and Evans. It's going to be a struggle for them offensively.

Speaker 1 Baker will throw picks, but they move the ball. Like Kate Otten, Bucky Irving, Baker was throwing the ball.

Speaker 1 The Bucs defense is what failed them today. The Falcons just carved him up.
Kirk was on fire.

Speaker 4 They hadn't wearing the creamsicles. The creamsicles.
They stink in the creamsicles, even though they're objectively awesome. Kyle Pitts had a couple of really nice plays.

Speaker 4 The touchdown that he had, though, that was very

Speaker 4 led up at like the 10-yard line and glided in the end zone, hanging the ball out. He gets wrapped up from behind.
I forget who was at Winfield that made the touchdown.

Speaker 4 And then the ball gets knocked out as he crosses the plane. And they don't have a camera that's on the end zone.
They don't have a camera. What did Bill Belichick say?

Speaker 4 This is a billion-dollar league, and you can't put a camera. We have pylon cameras.
I know. They made a camera.

Speaker 4 They put a fucking camera in the pylon, and we don't have an angle to see if that was a touchdown or not. That was ridiculous.
It was ridiculous. And then my other favorite part of this game was,

Speaker 4 I don't think it was Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 But some people said that it was, but it wasn't him. Somebody on the Falcons yelled, fucking cunt.

Speaker 1 Oh. During a play.
And I don't know who it was. It wasn't Kirk.
Maybe it was somebody that was.

Speaker 4 So Kirk was, I think he was mic'd up today. Uh-oh.
He might have been wearing the water.

Speaker 1 He did do the walk into our trap, take over your trap pregame.

Speaker 4 I saw that. That one felt awkward.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 again, it's like when they put the chains on him, like he's a dog that they're dressing up. When they put him on a plane, Kirk, say the line, Kirk.

Speaker 1 Can you pull up the video, Max?

Speaker 1 It was quite something.

Speaker 1 He was getting the boys riled up. But it was the pregame.

Speaker 9 Well, he kept repeating it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Trying to get him to chant it. But hey, guess what? It worked in the fact that they won today.

Speaker 4 How do you think he had to have it explained to him? They'd be like, Kirk, it's like a home. A trap is a home.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Trap Depot. Yeah, and the way it's started.
It's slow.

Speaker 1 Trap Depot would be sick.

Speaker 4 Trap Depot would be great. Should we start a line? Yeah, here it is.

Speaker 1 This is Kirk Cousins

Speaker 1 pumping them up.

Speaker 1 We're fighting the trap. We're grabbing the trap.
We fight no caps.

Speaker 9 We're fighting no traps. We fight no cap.

Speaker 1 It's good job, good effort. I mean, hey, listen, win's a win.

Speaker 1 He won.

Speaker 4 And he didn't minty himself. Yeah.
So that's good. Yeah,

Speaker 1 by the way, I saw, so the Bucs, I don't know why. This just made me laugh.
It's very stupid internet, but the Bucs posted their final score, and then

Speaker 1 Matt, OCP Designs, just replied. He was the top reply, and it just said, since becoming the head coach of the Bucs in 2022, Todd Bowles has a worse career than a Toyota Rav 4.

Speaker 1 And it has just a list of the different awards. Coach of the Year awards, Todd Bowles had zero, Rav 4 has zero.
Super Bowl wins the head coach, Todd Bowles had zero, Rav 4 has zero.

Speaker 1 JD Power Reliability Award, Todd Bowles has zero, Rav 4 has one.

Speaker 1 IAI HS top safety pick, Todd Bowles has zero,

Speaker 1 Rav 4 has one. And then could you take, could

Speaker 1 take you to a Super Bowl? Todd Bowles, no. Rav 4, yes.
Yeah, so he's worse than a Rav 4.

Speaker 4 Physically, it could take you there.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. It just made me laugh.
It feels like bad times for Todd Bowles because, again,

Speaker 1 your defense, your defensive head coach, and this is

Speaker 1 your offense has both of your, like, you know, Mike Evans a Hall of Famer, Chris Goblin's incredible.

Speaker 1 They're both out. Baker has to basically be a magician.
If you score 26 points.

Speaker 4 And he kind of of was a magician. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 And it's just like that.

Speaker 1 How do you not win that game if you have a defensive coach? It's just no adjustments. It felt like they didn't get any pressure on Kirk Cousins.
He was throwing dimes down the field.

Speaker 4 You see that run he went on, too? Hit a little like 13 scramble.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I think we can say Kirk Cousins officially healthy now. Officially healthy.
I think at the start of the season, Kirk Cousins was not healthy.

Speaker 4 I think he's played his way back to as mobile as Kirk Cousins could possibly be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then this also, Atlanta, this is their sixth game decided by one possession, and that's kind of what the Falcons do, and they have a perfect quarterback for it because Kirk Cousins is 18-6 in one possession game since 2022.

Speaker 1 That's just what they do. This wasn't really a one-possession game, though.
This shouldn't have been. They let him back into it with the safety and then miss kick.
Like,

Speaker 1 they were up 31-4 or 17, and they just weren't able to close out, like, really close the door.

Speaker 4 It's just a sweep of the Bucs, and they are now 4-0 against the AFC NFC South. Correct.
This is, yeah, this is Atlanta's division. It's over.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not over, but it's over.

Speaker 4 Well, because they took care of the hard part.

Speaker 1 Right, they had the Saints and the Panthers left.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Bucs now.

Speaker 4 Can we just be the first to report congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons on winning? The Atlanta Falcons. The NFC South.
You've done it.

Speaker 1 You've won the NFC South. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Good job by you guys. Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins is kind of brutal. Like,

Speaker 1 he's better than people give him credit for because he went to Atlanta and he made them a playoff team.

Speaker 4 And they drafted a guy high in the first round

Speaker 4 to possibly take his job. Take his job.
That guy was trying to walk into his trap. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Kirk took over his trap.

Speaker 4 No, he said, my trap. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Trap, sweet trap.

Speaker 1 Next up, we got Packers 30, Jags 27.

Speaker 1 Jordan Love got hurt again. Malik Willis comes in.
Malik Willis is just a good quarterback now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so this now means that Malik Willis is 3-0 against that division, right? He's got the AFC South and hell.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He didn't play last week against the against the Texans.

Speaker 4 I know this might sound stupid, but I get the feeling like Matt LaFleur

Speaker 4 has more fun calling plays for Malik Willis because he has to do all the tricks.

Speaker 4 He has to get really weird with it.

Speaker 4 And so he gets in there and he starts doing the

Speaker 4 fake misdirective handoffs and then turning around and then throwing the ball back to where he just gave the fake from.

Speaker 4 He runs way cooler plays when Malik Willis is still in the game than when Jordan Love comes in. But Malik Willis out of nowhere got fun to watch.

Speaker 1 The dime that he threw to Jaden Reed that basically won them the game was incredible. Yeah.
And he's, yeah, he commanded the offense. The Packers,

Speaker 1 their defense just takes the ball away. They have 19 takeaways so far this year.

Speaker 1 It felt like the game, like the Jaguars were kind of in this game, and then the Trevor Lawrence fumble was a big change. And then the Jaguars got back into it.

Speaker 1 Like they were able to get back into it, tie the game. But the Packers, I don't know how long.
Do we know how long Jordan Love's going to be out? I think it was a groin injury.

Speaker 1 They have the Lions next.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know. Which I

Speaker 1 Matt Floor might be able to get Malik Willis to beat the Lions.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, if anybody can stop that Lions offense, it's Robert Salah's defense. It's just,

Speaker 1 I want to.

Speaker 1 Well, let me just say this about the Jags. I actually think Trevor Lawrence, obviously, the fumble was bad.
He didn't play bad today, and he also had, like, everyone got hurt for the Jags. I think

Speaker 1 Christian Kirk is out for the year.

Speaker 1 Brian Roberts is awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's awesome. But they had a couple other guys get hurt.
Trevor Lawrence was making some good throws, and the Jags were in this game.

Speaker 1 They kind of just Jags did at the end.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Trevor Lawrence is so confusing to watch because

Speaker 4 he can make really great throws. Yeah.
And he's a very, very good quarterback a lot of the time. And then he'll have a boneheaded fumble.
And you're like, well, how do I evaluate this guy?

Speaker 4 Because he's so good at finding guys like middle-of-the-field passing.

Speaker 4 He can make like the deep throws, he's got a great arm, and he also just looks like a quarterback, and then he just drops the ball sometimes. You're like, Well, I can't tell if you're good or not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you might be very good at playing quarterback, but not very good at just holding on to a football, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because that fumble, yeah, it was like on the five-year-the-part. That was a very big part.

Speaker 1 And also, shout out-I don't know what defensive lineman it was on the Packers, but an all-time box out on that fumble record.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 1 He just skip-checked the fuck out of the guy. Yep.

Speaker 1 Booty ball. I'm going to say something right now that Packers fans are not allowed to listen to, and you cannot clip.

Speaker 1 Tyreek Stevenson going after the fans, not doing his job,

Speaker 1 Bears organization.

Speaker 1 Chris Brooks, the running back for the Packers, who went down with a minute left to run the clock out and kick the field goal instead of scoring a touchdown, giving the Jags a chance to possibly have some time left.

Speaker 1 Chris Brooks has never scored a touchdown in the NFL.

Speaker 4 and he went down. It took his dream from him.

Speaker 1 And he said afterward, just don't score. That's the only thing going through my mind.
It's always a pleasure to get the win and then do whatever first.

Speaker 1 It's always a pleasure to get the win first and then do whatever I can to help the team. That's the difference.

Speaker 1 Matt LaFleur coaches a team like that where a guy who's never scored a touchdown in the NFL. Do you think that's why they gave him the ball?

Speaker 4 It's like this guy's never scored, so he's not going to score and ruin the game.

Speaker 1 But it's just, it's, that's just good coaching and good, good clock management and winning football. And that was what Chris Brooks did.

Speaker 1 I mean, the guy, do you know how hard it must have been for him to,

Speaker 1 like, in the back of his head, he's never scored a touchdown in the NFL. Why? Like, you got to see that.
And it was a walk-in, and he goes down and he makes the correct move. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it would be hard to not have the instincts of, I want to score my first touchdown and take over in that moment.

Speaker 4 Yeah, to just say no, to deny yourself. This is also a Brandon McManus revenge game, which is a touching story that I'm sure that a lot of people followed along with.

Speaker 1 We all wanted his revenge game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we all felt bad for Brandon McManus.

Speaker 4 It was a bad game for the Jaguars,

Speaker 4 but I don't think it was as bad as you kind of wanted it to be deep down inside. If you're a Jags fan,

Speaker 1 you want clean house. Yeah.

Speaker 4 House needs to be cleaned up. And this was a bad loss.
He did some stupid shit. Like, he had a...
defensive delay of game on a field goal.

Speaker 4 The Packers were kicking a field goal, and then they either simulated the snap count or they made weird movements, got a flag called on them, and then gave him a first down during during a field goal attempt.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's the kind of thing that bad organizations do.

Speaker 4 And that was embarrassing, but I don't know if this was embarrassing enough to have the ownership of the Jaguars be like, okay, Doug has to go after this one. Yeah.
You need a good ass kicking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't be as they were in this game.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Siriani is capable of giving the Jaguars a big enough ass kicking? Because if you're a Jags fan, you probably are a big Eagles fan, right?

Speaker 4 Or does Siriani see another coach, you know, a guy that's also coached the Eagles before and seen what this league can do to you? Yeah. Do you think Siriani takes it easy on Doug Peterson?

Speaker 4 Because he's like respect.

Speaker 1 I think Siriani would do, would like almost,

Speaker 1 he would get Doug Peterson fired and then he would be like, Doug Peterson, come to our coaching staff because you got that Philly magic. Yeah.
He would definitely do that.

Speaker 1 Have him come be a consultant like a Robert Salah.

Speaker 2 For sure. I'd

Speaker 2 welcome him to the team as well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Josh Jacobs is also very good. He had a monster game.
He's a weapon.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's maddening that the Packers keep going to Malik Willis and winning games, but they do.

Speaker 4 It's crazy. And I've completely reversed course on Malik Willis.
Now I actually like Washington.

Speaker 1 How could you not?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, he's fun.

Speaker 1 He's going to probably get another shot somewhere.

Speaker 4 He's going to get a nice contract.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to get a shot.

Speaker 1 He might Matt Flynn this thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Okay, well, Hank just walked out.

Speaker 1 I guess we'll do Cardinals Dolphins first.

Speaker 12 We're going to do Patriots, Jets.

Speaker 1 Hank might not come out. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he might not come back. Cardinals, Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Cardinals might be good.

Speaker 4 Well, they were for a fleeting moment in first place in the NFC West. Another tied for first place, or is it the 49ers?

Speaker 1 I think the 49ers are ahead of the. Oh, no, because they beat the 49ers.
Yeah, no, no, no. They're in first place.

Speaker 1 They're in first place in the NFC West.

Speaker 4 Still in first place in the NFC West. They're 4-4,

Speaker 4 and they've unlocked Maserati Marv.

Speaker 1 They've unlocked Maserati Marv, and Trey McBride is a beast. Because that was the two of them

Speaker 1 when Kyler Murray was targeting them today, 15 for 18, 235 yards in a TD. Yeah.
Like they were awesome. And that was a game that it felt like the Cardinals were going to lose.

Speaker 1 And Kyler made the big plays to get them into field goal range at the end. And the Cardinals might be good.

Speaker 1 I think they're still in a rebuilding phase because their defense is not great. And,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 the one thing I was very impressed with with the Cardinals today is they didn't run the ball that great. And I always thought that if the Cardinals don't run the ball, they're basically cooked.

Speaker 1 But Kyler made those running around Kyler plays on the weekend that Call of Duty's been released.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a great, great showing from the business.

Speaker 1 He gets a night off. Give him, I hope that, I hope, what's his name? Jonathan Gannon said after the game, like, hey, you know what, Kyler, you deserve Monday off to play some Call of Duty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, give him two days off. Send the replacer in and have him just take reps at practice.

Speaker 4 The Kyler Murray stepping up when James Conner can't thing, I feel like James Conner is he's still going to pop up for maybe three more games this season where he has two touchdowns. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 He'll still have his good games, but he's not like a game-changing running back.

Speaker 1 He had one today, he just didn't count. Yeah, they just didn't run, it didn't feel like they had any pop on their running game.

Speaker 4 He also had a very, very funny two-point conversion where he tried to jump from like the six-yard line when he got the ball. Yes, and then came down at like the four, not even close to it.

Speaker 4 But the uh, the Cardinals, man, first place. I think the Cardinals are good enough to win that division.
I don't think think it's a good division.

Speaker 1 They already beat the 49ers.

Speaker 4 They beat the 49ers, and the offense can look good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Cardinals are still in it.

Speaker 1 As for the Dolphins, Tua coming back definitely made it look like the Dolphins were a competent football team again.

Speaker 1 They're back into their fun to watch because the last, whatever it has been, four weeks of the Dolphins has been a chore to watch on TV.

Speaker 1 And credit to Tua, he slid.

Speaker 4 He'd slid. He slid.
He did not wear the Guardian cap today,

Speaker 4 but he did do some crazy, crazy plays.

Speaker 4 So McDaniel was like just absolutely hating his job for the last four weeks because he had to try to run boring vanilla-ass plays. He had to try to run Skylar Thompson plays.

Speaker 4 No matter what quarterback was in, he's like, I'm just going to call the Skylar plays for you.

Speaker 4 And then getting Tua back, he's like, I'm going to have Tua throw the ball behind his back.

Speaker 4 I'm going to have Tua throw an empty hand with his left hand forward as he does a shovel pass with his his right hand. He was just so happy to get to do all the freaky weird shit.

Speaker 1 The way the game started,

Speaker 1 I had a theory that was maybe people weren't really listening or thought I was stupid because it is a stupid theory. I was like, what if Tua got concussed into just being permanently in the zone?

Speaker 1 Because that's how the game started. He was doing crazy shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Giving yourself a medically induced minor concussion.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Woodpeckers walk around all the time with minor concussions. It's facts.
Industrious as fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 12 That's facts.

Speaker 1 See, so

Speaker 1 I don't know if the dolphins are are going to be

Speaker 1 frisky, but I came away from this. Oh, Hank's saying no.

Speaker 4 I think they're back to being a fun watch.

Speaker 1 They're two wins. Yeah, but they're fun watching.
But they didn't have their quarterback for a lot of games. They blew this game.
They did blow this game, but I was... It's frisky.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I think their offense is frisky. Back to frisky.
Like, two, maybe, actually, frisky is probably the wrong word. Their offense is just good again.

Speaker 1 I don't know what happened with their defense at the end end of the game, but their offense is fun to watch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're just a fun watch, period.

Speaker 9 If the Dolphins are on now with 2-0, no, their offense is stacked, but it was just shocking to me

Speaker 9 that how bad they play without 2-0.

Speaker 1 Oh, I agree with that.

Speaker 9 Like, the 49ers, offensive stacked, you could put any QB in, and it's like, oh, that's Brock Purdy slander.

Speaker 1 I don't like that.

Speaker 9 But the Dolphins, it was the complete opposite.

Speaker 1 I don't like that Brock Purdy slander. Trey Lance.

Speaker 9 Jimmy G and Brock Purdy, how much of a difference?

Speaker 1 Jimmy G, Super Bowl. Brock Purdy's way better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, much better. But they both went to the Super Bowl.
And Brock Purdy's way better. That's my point.

Speaker 4 Jimmy Grappler, all he does is win football games.

Speaker 1 But Jimmy G's way better than

Speaker 1 Tyler Huntley and Tim Boyle. True.
Like,

Speaker 1 they were starting non-starters.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you this, Hank. Do you think that McDaniel makes a play for Jimmy G?

Speaker 4 He would have been a great champion for that team. Where is Jimmy G? He's on the Rams.

Speaker 1 He's on the Rams. Yeah,

Speaker 4 he's getting that.

Speaker 1 He's fucking slaying puss.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but you think he wouldn't crush puss in Miami?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, L.A.

Speaker 4 Like, here's Jimmy G is.

Speaker 4 He did not, not enough puss for that man in San Fran. Goes to Vegas, push City, and then he goes to L.A.,

Speaker 4 push Salely Hills, 902-1-0. Then now he's going to go to South Puss in Miami.
Yeah, he's hitting them all. I think

Speaker 4 he's going to have sex with every woman in America before he's out of the league.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just, I think the Dolphins, here's what I'll say. The Dolphins are going to play spoiler.

Speaker 1 They'll be the team

Speaker 1 that is trying to go to the playoffs late in the season if Tua stays healthy. You don't think so?

Speaker 9 A team, yeah.

Speaker 9 And they're supposed to be like a playoff team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 they're definitely

Speaker 4 not living up to expectations.

Speaker 1 And I, again, I came away from this being way more impressed with the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 I was more saying that I guess it's because we saw what it was like without Tua that I was just so happy to have Tua back because having a Dolphins game on one of the TVs wasn't just a pain to like avert.

Speaker 1 Like I would, when the Dolphins were playing the last few weeks, I would just avoid looking at that TV. Yeah.
Now I'm like, ooh, what's Tua doing?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're fun to watch on offense. Yeah.
They do crazy shit.

Speaker 1 And Kyler is very fun. Kyler's having a good year, and

Speaker 1 I'm buying on the Cardinals being the...

Speaker 1 Like, the Cardinals could either get a playoff spot or they could... Yeah, they could win the NFC.
And the NFC West is just a, I don't even know who's good. It's mid-off.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Rams are all the way back. The Rams are one game out.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, you walked out.

Speaker 4 They're not trading Cooper Cup.

Speaker 1 They're not trading Cooper Cup. Hank, you walked out when we were about to do this game.
Patriots 25, Jets 22.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Hank. Floor is yours.

Speaker 9 I mean, it's sad. It was fun the last couple weeks being able to, you know, look at what is it called? Tankathon.
Yeah. Tankathon.com, where all the losers go, and seeing

Speaker 9 the New England Patriots at the top of the draft board, number one pick.

Speaker 9 Had no expectations that we were going to get boat raced. Thought it was going to be the Aaron Rodgers, Devontae Adams, get right game, make a run for the playoff.
They got a window.

Speaker 9 Drake May played great. Drake May only played, like, if Drake May played the whole game, they would have won by 40.
I think he played like three

Speaker 9 drives. Oh, wow.

Speaker 9 40. Scored a touchdown, which features, unfortunately, for the Hail Mary happened.

Speaker 9 I was really looking forward to being able to be like, my quarterback actually scored today, and he only played a few drives.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry that I took that from you, Hank. It's all right.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 I feel bad for you. The concussion was kind of weird because it was like,

Speaker 9 it didn't seem like he got hit that hard.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he got hit kind of on the back of his head. It was a weird angle.

Speaker 1 It was like a tap.

Speaker 9 And I don't know if that should make me more concerned or less concerned.

Speaker 4 Why would it make you less concerned?

Speaker 1 Because it wasn't like

Speaker 9 from the visual test, it didn't seem bad at all.

Speaker 4 Maybe he's too honest.

Speaker 9 And the Kyle Rudolph story, I don't know if you guys saw some Minnesota Vikings fan found the clip from where it's from.

Speaker 9 The play, you would never notice that he got concussed that bad in a million years. Like, he was just coming across the middle and he got hit.

Speaker 9 But that play happens in every game in the history of football.

Speaker 1 He's just finding out that concussions might be a problem.

Speaker 9 No, but it was more like if he was that fucked up from that play, then that

Speaker 9 after watching the Drake May thing, I'm like, oh, it wasn't that bad. But then it made me think of what Kyle Rudolph said.

Speaker 1 Are you saying that sometimes maybe concussions are underreported?

Speaker 1 Yeah, after that, it's like there's a million to debt. Do you, I mean, it is.
So what was the meme you shared with us?

Speaker 9 Yes. Boston Sports Throwback made the meme.
It was Michael Scott and his old boss at Dunder Mifflin.

Speaker 9 And the old boss said, or Michael Scott was, you know, young Michael Scott with the long hair, two and six.

Speaker 1 I don't have my phone on me. Can you read the meme? Where's your phone?

Speaker 4 They're They're shaking hands, and they're both.

Speaker 1 Where'd your phone go?

Speaker 9 Just living in the moment.

Speaker 1 You just had your phone for the whole first part of the show. I got to live in the moment.

Speaker 9 Well, I was doing my boomer.

Speaker 1 All right, here it is. It's Michael Scott's bosses, the Jets.
The old boss is the Jets. Highest expectations in 25 years.

Speaker 1 Shaking Michael Scott, who's the Patriots, lowest expectation in 25 years, and 2-6 record. Both of them.
That's brutal.

Speaker 9 Also, reports dysfunctional locker room. They don't know if they're going to stick with Mayo.

Speaker 1 Memes,

Speaker 1 you're a memes guy.

Speaker 1 Talk us through this memes.

Speaker 9 I feel bad for memes.

Speaker 1 I'll say that. You can say that because it is crazy that you guys are like full-on rebuild and the Jets are full on we should win the Super Bowl this year all in.
And you're both two and six.

Speaker 9 And Drake made it even play.

Speaker 1 And Drake made it even play. He didn't play.

Speaker 1 He did play. Okay.
He played.

Speaker 4 So, memes, first of all, I do want to hear your analysis of this meme, but also I want to hear what you're going to do this week to make it all go away.

Speaker 1 Nothing. The season's over.

Speaker 1 What? It's over. Actually over? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 It's over, dude.

Speaker 4 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Well, I have a fix for you.

Speaker 1 It hit me.

Speaker 1 Cut Greg Zerline.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they should have done that two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 It's insane. The guy can't kick, and you're losing games because he can't kick.

Speaker 10 I mean, if he could kick, Rob Salah still has a job

Speaker 1 against the Broncos. That's a win.
Yeah, you probably have two more wins. You're probably, instead of a two and six team, you're at four and four, like, and you're fine.

Speaker 1 He can't kick, and you just let him not kick as a kicker continually.

Speaker 1 And Aaron Rodgers didn't even play that bad. I mean, he's old.

Speaker 10 He's old as shit.

Speaker 4 There was a quote after the game from one of the Patriots players that said he's just not the same.

Speaker 12 He was like, I chase him down, and I'm 500 pounds.

Speaker 1 That was the quote.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I might have overexagged.

Speaker 1 Did you see the quote Aaron Rodgers had? Jeff Ulbrick said, it's a moment of darkness for the Jets. And Aaron Rodgers said, I've been in the darkness.
You got to go in there and make peace with it.

Speaker 1 He's just talking about his fucking darkness.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's talking about ayahuasca. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was that the ayahuasca or was that the, because remember, he did a darkness retreat that was different than the ayahuasca.

Speaker 4 Would you go to a darkness retreat sober, though?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he went to the place in, what was like Oregon or Washington where you like basically lived in a hut that was pitch black. Oregon.
I love it. Yeah.
I looked it up too.

Speaker 1 It looks like a bunch of gnomes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 He lived in a tree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he lived in

Speaker 1 the side of a hill in a mossy home for two. Remember, he left it early, though.
Yeah, he quit. So actually, he doesn't know this.
He quit after like a day.

Speaker 4 It's not a real darkness retreat. Somebody comes there every day and like knocks on your door and talks to you.

Speaker 4 It says a riddle. Here's your food.
Figure out this riddle. Think about this riddle.
He is a gnome. Yeah.
This is a gnome lifestyle.

Speaker 1 He's a Keebler elf.

Speaker 4 Okay, so yeah, memes. Aaron Rodgers, what are you going to do with him?

Speaker 9 Wait, can we have the meme analysis first? Oh, yeah, good point.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 It's a good meme.

Speaker 1 If we're just doing an unbiased breakdown, I would probably flip it just because the Patriots are the older.

Speaker 1 Oh, good point.

Speaker 4 They've been there. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 That's why you're the best in the biz.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that is is why you're the best in the biz.

Speaker 4 Also, he's wearing the short-sleeved shirt. It looks kind of like Mayo's sweatshirt that he had on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 But let me back up this account.

Speaker 1 Rodgers is the older

Speaker 1 guy because he's 40. And Drake May

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 the new guy. He's young, so it actually kind of works.
Yeah, but the Jets are still the

Speaker 1 little brother.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 4 Who's Kevin spilling chili everywhere?

Speaker 9 Probably Joe Douglas. Sauce Gardner.

Speaker 1 That might be to a concussed. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, concussed to a.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, memes, what do you do? What do you do moving forward?

Speaker 1 Well, Aaron Rodgers is probably going to retire

Speaker 12 just next week,

Speaker 1 and then we just move on.

Speaker 1 This is so sad. So you're totally done.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean,

Speaker 4 Tom is never totally done.

Speaker 1 No, because

Speaker 1 we got to all be honest here. Like,

Speaker 1 I think the Bears can still make the playoffs.

Speaker 10 That's stupid right now.

Speaker 1 We can't make the playoffs. You can't.
So you're totally done.

Speaker 1 Right now,

Speaker 1 I've been saying we'll go 11-6, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 We're on pace for 2-15. 2-15? This is a 2-15 team.
Yeah, and the vibes are really bad in the locker room. I don't know if you saw some of the tweets.

Speaker 12 I did not.

Speaker 1 There was one that was,

Speaker 1 let me find it for you because I just want to get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 1 Brees Hall was in the Jets locker room in full uniform, towel over his head, with head hanging low, hands on his head. This loss, devastating on so many levels to players in here.

Speaker 1 They're searching for answers they can't find. Hall, one of those guys who this means much more or so much to.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Full uniform pads, everything.

Speaker 4 They need a realer speech from Devontae Adams. The last one obviously wasn't real enough.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I have an insult stat. So, memes, cover your ears.
Oh, yeah. This is from Rich Samini.
He said, This is crazy. The Jets had zero turnovers, held the Patriots at 247 yards, and still lost.

Speaker 4 They're the first team to lose a game in which they did not turn the ball over and held their opponent under 250 yards since week three of 2012. You know what happened in week three of 2012?

Speaker 4 Also, Aaron Rodgers lost to the Seahawks in the Fail Mary game. Since then, teams to do that had been 220 and 0 until today.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 pretty, pretty.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 memes, Jacoby Brissette did a game-winning drive on you, and he's not a good quarterback.

Speaker 9 And the big play was on Saskar.

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 can I say something that I think Hank, you'll probably agree with. I think actually, Max, you'll agree with.
PFT, you definitely will agree with.

Speaker 1 I think if the Patriots learned how to catch the ball and caught the ball in this game, they probably would have won by like two touchdowns.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they had so many drops.

Speaker 1 A million balls.

Speaker 12 I don't think they win by two touchdowns, but.

Speaker 1 Drake may have played the whole game.

Speaker 4 How did Kayshawn Booty get so bad at catching the ball?

Speaker 1 They dropped everything, memes. They did drop everything.

Speaker 4 He was supposed to be, like, in college,

Speaker 4 he was going to be like a top 10 pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hassan Reddick, he played.

Speaker 10 We suck.

Speaker 1 We suck. We suck.

Speaker 12 There's no help. We don't have a coach.

Speaker 10 We fired the coach. We upgraded to the DC.

Speaker 12 He's in over his head.

Speaker 4 He used all his timeouts in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know what he's talking about. That was funny.
That was not funny. That was crazy.

Speaker 4 All the timeouts gone.

Speaker 1 That was crazy.

Speaker 4 You just got to hope Woody Johnson gets arrested.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a disaster of a season. How's Greene doing? He's got a lot of fun.

Speaker 9 Also, Lighthouse Curse broken.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 You can't even use that anymore. How mad does that make you? Oh, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 You can still use it.

Speaker 12 You have two wins since that dumb fucking Lighthouse has been built.

Speaker 1 No, but he. No,

Speaker 4 Hank did just.

Speaker 1 No, that was their first win in front of the new lighthouse. No, second.
They paid the bills.

Speaker 1 When? Last season. They did? Yeah.

Speaker 1 In front of the new lighthouse?

Speaker 4 Yeah. That was their only home win.
Mm-hmm. All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, Memes definitely did some research because he knew that was going to come up.

Speaker 4 What he's been saying is that the first one.

Speaker 8 No, since I rung the bell.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's the one that you post every week.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 Yeah, since Hank kept the light.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you post every week? It's the overall record. No, it's.

Speaker 4 I've seen. Hank, I know what you're saying.
He does the one where it's like, since Hank Lockwood has kept the light, they haven't won a game at home. Who is the keeper of the light today?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Bring him back.
Bring him back.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, memes.

Speaker 1 I'm in the same boat as you. Well, not fully, but loser organizations do loser things.
Yep.

Speaker 1 That's just kind of what happens.

Speaker 9 Do you guys want to power rank to win teams in the AFCs?

Speaker 1 Yes, I would love to. Okay.

Speaker 1 Jets got to be number one. Really? They're dangerous, dude.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 Dolphins.

Speaker 1 No, it's no Browns with Jameis? No, it's in the AFC East. Oh, just the AFCs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 Dolphins versus Jets right now in Miami, the Dolphins are favored by what, two points? Three points? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's Vinetario. Oh, yeah.
Fuck Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I think the Jets. I think Jets close second Dolphins.

Speaker 1 But how can you.

Speaker 1 The Patriots just beat the team. Yeah, but the Jets.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but Jets got Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Jets.
Devontae Adams now.

Speaker 1 Hassan Reddit. Memes, what do you think?

Speaker 13 We don't have a fucking coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but how rate the true win team?

Speaker 13 We're the best team. We don't have a coach.
We have no one to coach these players.

Speaker 1 We have good players on our team. We don't have a coach.
Do you?

Speaker 10 Yes, we do have good players.

Speaker 2 Dolphins have good players.

Speaker 1 They have a coach.

Speaker 9 The Patriots have a coach. They have okay players.

Speaker 4 The Patriots have bad players. Do the Patriots have a good coach?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Bears don't have good players and a bad coach.

Speaker 4 Well, the Patriots have bad players, but they beat a team that has good players.

Speaker 1 We don't have a kicker. You don't have a kicker.
That's a part of him. That's the one you got to fucking get rid of.

Speaker 4 You got to find a kicker.

Speaker 1 You got to get rid of that guy. He's bad.
And he's costing you every game.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, win Thursday night.

Speaker 1 No, the season's over. Okay, it's over.

Speaker 1 I tend to agree with you because I don't think you're going to beat the Texans because that Texans, you know what? Let's do the Texans game. Texans 23, Colts 20.

Speaker 1 That Texans' defensive line is ferocious. Ferocious.

Speaker 1 Their defense kind of won this game. I mean, the Texans' offense continues to be clunky.
Their offensive line isn't great. Stephon Diggs got hurt,

Speaker 1 but the Texans are 6-2, and it feels like they have yet to play their best game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, that's the thing:

Speaker 4 they haven't really played a great game yet,

Speaker 4 which is really strange. So, we don't know if the Texans have that.
I've just been waiting for the Texans to finally have that great game.

Speaker 4 But you're playing the Colts, and the Colts play everybody close, no matter how outmatched they are, no matter how injured they are.

Speaker 4 The Colts are just kind of going to be around at every single game, despite the fact that they get some terrible quarterback play. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, Anthony Richardson in the first half, two for 15, two for 15 for 81 yards in the first half. Now, to be fair to Anthony Richardson, he had three drops in the first half.

Speaker 4 And I went back, I watched all three of those drops, and he very easily could have been five for 15 for 150 yards. That would have been an awesome stat line if we had gotten that.

Speaker 4 Because he hits the bombs.

Speaker 4 Besides a couple deep shots that he took, the game plan seemed to be just give Anthony Richardson the ball and then have him run and just hope that he doesn't get hurt somehow when he's running with the ball.

Speaker 4 Yes. Because he never slides.
He runs at people. And at one point, he ran so much that he took himself out of the game.

Speaker 1 That was tough.

Speaker 4 I don't think I've ever seen an NFL quarterback say, I need a blow.

Speaker 1 And he said it, and after in the post-game, he was like, yeah, I was tired.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just need a blow, coach.

Speaker 1 That's a crazy thing to say.

Speaker 4 It's nuts.

Speaker 1 Anthony Richardson, and we're not going to pick on him.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess I still understand the Colts trying to figure it out because you took him with the number four pick.

Speaker 1 I do think Joe Flacco probably wins this game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's the thing about the Colts. They're constantly one score away with bad quarterback play.
If you have average quarterback play, you win these kinds of games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Anthony Richardson

Speaker 1 is from Austin Gale. Anthony Richardson ranks 222nd in completion rate among the 225 quarterbacks with 250-plus drop back since the year 2000.

Speaker 1 So the only three quarterbacks that are below Anthony Richardson are Tim Tebow,

Speaker 1 Mike McCann, McMahon from the Eagles, and then Achilles Smith. That's bad.
Ryan Leaf is ahead of him. Yeah, it's nice.
Ryan Lindley, Curtis Payner, Troy Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Andrew Walter.

Speaker 1 They're all ahead of him. It's just...

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know if it's like mechanics or what.

Speaker 1 He's never been accurate, but yeah, I mean, there was drops. I guess just keep trying.
Yeah, keep trying. I guess it's good to see Jonathan Taylor out there.

Speaker 4 It depends on what you want to accomplish this year.

Speaker 1 I think you just have to keep trying because you got to basically definitively say, all right, this didn't work,

Speaker 1 and we have to move on. But you can't do that if you don't play him, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 he has to learn. He's not going to learn by not playing.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 So, but

Speaker 1 excuse me.

Speaker 4 But Flacco.

Speaker 4 Flacco wins this game.

Speaker 1 Flacco wins this game. The Texans are good, and they have not played a good game yet.

Speaker 4 Also, DeForest Buckner being back for the Colts helps a lot, too.

Speaker 1 DeForest Buckner definitely helps.

Speaker 4 I always forget how huge he is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a monster. He's a monster.
Okay, the next game, Lions, 52, Titans, 14.

Speaker 1 This was a weird game because it was tied 14-14. The final score was 52-14.
The Lions scored 52 points, and they had 61 total net yards passing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, some crazy, crazy stats out of that game.

Speaker 9 That's unfathomable. It is.

Speaker 1 It really is.

Speaker 4 Hank can't fathom it.

Speaker 1 I cannot fathom it either, Hank.

Speaker 1 How? Think about it. Did they have 400 rushing yards? No, they had

Speaker 1 every single time you looked up, the Lions were running down the field with a special teams play.

Speaker 1 They had a 72-yard kickoff return, a 64-yard punt return, and then a 90-yard punt return for a touchdown. That's a lot of return yards.

Speaker 9 I still feel like with 52 points, there's like 250 yards missing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 when they had 35 points, they had 130 yards of offense. Yeah.
It's crazy. And they had Jared Goffstadt.
He had 85 yards passing.

Speaker 4 So he had 28 yards passing in the first half, and he scored 21 points.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 4 it's insane. That's the fewest.
It's got to be the fewest yards per point in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they kept on, it was either an awesome return or a Titans turnover. Like the Lions scored the first, their first score of the game was off of a Mason Rudolph interception, 23 yards.

Speaker 1 So it's 7-0, and they've only had to gain 23 yards. Then they did have the Jameer Gibbs run, which was insane.
The 70-yard run. He's so fucking fast.

Speaker 4 One play, 70 yards.

Speaker 1 So that was 70 yards. And then they got a big return, and then they only had to go 25 yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 So it just kept on happening where they were just, they'd be going right down the field, then another interception, 12 yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, their first was two plays, 23 yards. Next, one play, 70 yards.
Next, three plays, 25 yards.

Speaker 4 Next, four plays, 12 yards. Next, seven plays, 22 yards.

Speaker 1 It was just every single time I looked up, there was a kick return that was going for a million yards. Yeah.
And the Titans, are the Titans the worst team in the NFL?

Speaker 4 Well, the the Titans, I respect the fact that they realize. Panthers.
Like, we got a 10. Yeah.
Yeah, probably Panthers.

Speaker 1 The Titans are...

Speaker 1 The Titans have bottomed out. Like, the Titans were frisky for a while.
Their defense...

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess you could even say their defense,

Speaker 1 they...

Speaker 1 The defense...

Speaker 1 The Titans outgained the Lions by a ton of yards.

Speaker 4 The Titans' defense, shockingly, wasn't bad in terms of yards given up in this game. And that's just because their offense just gave the other team the ball.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the Titans, it feels like they're bottoming out because they had the Bills game last week where they were same thing. They were up.
I know they weren't up in this game, but they were up

Speaker 1 10-0, then they lost 34-10. This game, it's 14-14.
They lost 52-14. The Lions are just an absolute juggernaut right now.

Speaker 1 I don't know, like, because the Chiefs are undefeated, but the Chiefs aren't playing. Every Chiefs game, it feels like it's a little bit...

Speaker 4 They're playing really good defense. They're playing great defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the Chiefs aren't aren't playing like a full complete game the lions it feels like what they've been doing in the last four games has been just out of this world they actually here's a crazy stat you ready for this yep the lions in the last four games have 172 points which is more points in the last four games the lions have more points than 14 teams have points all year yeah

Speaker 4 that's how good the lions have been the cowboys game the vikings game this one and then uh what's the other one i'm forgetting the uh

Speaker 4 Seahawks. Seahawks, that's right.
They beat the shit out of Seattle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they won that game 42-29. The Lions are just...
I don't know how you defend the Lions.

Speaker 1 How do you go against the Lions?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and this is No Jameson.

Speaker 1 No Jameson?

Speaker 4 No Jameson today, and they've got one of their other generic-ass receiver names that'll step up.

Speaker 8 You've got Tim Patrick.

Speaker 4 Yep. Allen Robinson.
Yep. Doesn't matter.
They just have the generic ass receiver names.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jared didn't even have to play the entire fourth quarter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. And this was a classic, classic trap spot because

Speaker 1 they were going like awesome game against the Cowboys, emotional win, lose Aiden Hutchinson, then get up off the mat, beat the Vikings in a back-and-forth game, play the Titans at home at noon or one o'clock local, and then they have the Packers next week.

Speaker 1 This was the spot where the Titans or the Lions could have looked like shit, and they did the exact opposite and looked like no one could ever beat them.

Speaker 4 And Jameer Gibbs looks unreal.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think.

Speaker 4 He continues to look unreal. He's got six, is it six games in a row, averaging over five yards per carry? Yeah.
On at least 10 attempts.

Speaker 4 And the only other guys to ever do that are Franco Harris, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Here's a.

Speaker 4 Best start for the Lions since 1956.

Speaker 1 A stat from the Detroit Lions PR. Today marks the 19th game that David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs have played together.

Speaker 1 They're the first running back duo in NFL history to each accumulate at least 1,500 scrimmage yards and 15 scrimmage TDs in a tandem's first 20 games together. They're so good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, everything about the offense is good. They're so good.
They don't have a weakness on offense.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do about the Lions.
The Lions are a problem.

Speaker 4 They're a problem.

Speaker 4 It's like the only riddle that can be solved is if they play against the Chiefs and the defense.

Speaker 1 Do you think they're going to

Speaker 1 get a pass rusher in the trade deadline?

Speaker 4 I don't know. Because who can you get? If you're not Max Crosby apparently not on the market anymore for some reason?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I guess because Mark Davis likes having a good player on his team. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Hassan Reddick.

Speaker 1 Hassan Reddick? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't know who else they can get, but on offense, they don't have a weakness. They don't.
They've got a great tight end. They've got...
two, maybe three really, really good receivers.

Speaker 4 You would say Amon Ra is probably a great receiver. You've got two awesome running backs, MVP-level quarterback, quarterback,

Speaker 4 best offensive line maybe in the NFC.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 one good, I guess the one silver lining for the Titans is that you're trying to trade everyone now, and Calvin Ridley had a good game. Yeah.
So that was like a, hey, this guy's still good.

Speaker 1 Come and take him.

Speaker 9 And Christian Kirk got hurt, which is good for Calvin Ridley's trade-back.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think this was actually.

Speaker 1 Why is that good for?

Speaker 4 Because he was the other receiver. Oh, he was going to get traded.

Speaker 1 The Jags were going to get

Speaker 1 him. But this is good.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Look at you.

Speaker 4 The Titans might have gone into this game just trying to increase Calvin Ridley's trade value as much as possible. If they did, if that was their game plan, this was a great result for the Titans.

Speaker 4 And their GM is now doing interviews where he's encouraging people, listen, stick with us long-term. He's telling everyone, we are tanking.
Please don't hate us, but we're tanking.

Speaker 4 Just support the long-term goal. This was a great game for the tank.
Yeah. Fantastic.

Speaker 1 Great game for the tank. Okay, let's go to afternoon games.
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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 afternoon games, Chiefs Raiders.

Speaker 1 Or sorry, Bills Seahawks, we'll start with. Josh Allen did throw an interception.

Speaker 1 Mari Cooper did slip, but the bills absolutely dominated the seahawks things are not going good for the seahawks right the seahawks are the most confusing team in the nfl to me because when they look good and dk metcalf was out in this game and i i he is so important to their offense but when they look good uh they look like he beat anyone and then in this game they had it was like yackity sacks at goal line plays where they had the uh it was like third and goal and the the botched snap where it ended up being or no i think it was second and goal and they had third and goal from like the 34.

Speaker 1 Then the next time they went down,

Speaker 1 I think the center tripped Geno Smith on fourth down.

Speaker 1 And then they had guys fighting each other on the sidelines.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they were fighting themselves. Yeah.
And they had to trust themselves to get in between and break it up without taking sides. I feel like the Lions broke them.

Speaker 4 I mean, they did beat the Falcons a couple weeks ago. That was a big win for the Seahawks.
But that Lions loss on Monday night really just fucked up the Seahawks' entire season. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so it was very weird for them. They couldn't get a rhythm going offensively, and then they started fighting each other.
The rain was, it was the fattest rain I've ever seen. It was some fat ass.

Speaker 4 It was some really fat rain. And the Bills just played really good, clean football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 the Bills are just good. Like, I don't know why.
I know the Ravens have been flashy because they've been killing it, and they beat the Bills. The Chiefs are undefeated.

Speaker 1 Like, the Bills

Speaker 1 all of a sudden have...

Speaker 1 Like, I know Stephon Diggs, they trade him, but with the way that Keon Coleman's playing, Shakir's a really good receiver. Amari Cooper now there, Kincaid, James Cook.
James Cook is a ton of weapons.

Speaker 4 Yeah, James Cook is awesome. Yeah.
He's playing really well, and they just need to remember to run the football, that it's okay to run the football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we also had one of the coolest Josh Allen plays where he punted a fumble for a first down.

Speaker 4 He dropped it, kicked it, fumble, recovered.

Speaker 1 It was incredible.

Speaker 4 It's a very good thing to do in a football game. Write that down.
That is a loophole in the rulebook.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the Bills are just a good team. They have as many wins as the rest of the AFC East combined.

Speaker 4 Six and two, three and two. Should we congratulate the Bills?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd say the Bills have the AFCEs.

Speaker 4 Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills for

Speaker 1 the East. I think that's pretty much wrapped up.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 1 look, I mean, the Bills, like their run defense, they completely shut down the Seahawks running game. Seahawks running game sucked today.

Speaker 1 They were just, it felt like they were in the backfield the entire game.

Speaker 1 The Bills are just really good. Max even said it.
He was like, why don't we talk about the Bills being like true Super Bowl contenders?

Speaker 1 I think we do, but I think he was talking about more like the general public.

Speaker 1 I think it's because I know why. It was the back-to-back Ravens-Texans game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so the Ravens, they looked very, very bad. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And that felt like just a style, like the two styles, that didn't seem like a fluke. It seems like the Ravens are built to just shit pump the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 And then with the Texans, that was Josh Allen's worst game, I think, ever. Yeah.
Like one of the worst completion percentages, I think, of all time that he had.

Speaker 4 And then since then, they've beaten two bad teams, and we don't know what the Seahawks are.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 all the games that they should win, they've won pretty handily.

Speaker 1 And yeah, we don't know what the Seahawks are. The Seahawks are just confusing.
I do not know what to make of the Seahawks week to week. No.

Speaker 4 And then they've got the Dolphins, and then at Indy, and then after that, I'm looking forward to the 17th against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's going to be a great game. Yeah.
Flex that to Sunday night. I agree.

Speaker 1 Give that to us on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Bills are great, and I don't know what the Seahawks. I can't make anytime you have a defense fighting each other, it feels like bad vibes.

Speaker 4 Tough look for the 12s today. Yeah.
Very tough look because there were a ton of Bills fans there. McDermott after the game was like, I've never seen Seattle like that before.

Speaker 4 Apparently, Buffalo made the trip.

Speaker 1 Got to protect yourself.

Speaker 9 Bills Lions Super Bowl in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 We need it. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 That would be incredible.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be drunk for months.

Speaker 1 That would be the biggest. That would be such a fun party scene with those two fan bases.

Speaker 1 Knowing that one of those two fan bases is going to get a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 What's the spread?

Speaker 4 Lions minus three and a half.

Speaker 1 I think that...

Speaker 4 I think it starts out at three and a half. The Sharps take up to five.

Speaker 1 But think about the Bills. They would have to have beaten the Chiefs and probably the Ravens to get there.

Speaker 1 So they would have, like, people would be really hyping them up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably three and a half. Would the Lions?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Lions would probably be looked at as, okay, you won the NFC.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I think it's close in that now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, three and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay, Chiefs, 27, Raiders, 20.

Speaker 1 We should mention it was National Tight End Day, so Travis Kelsey, of course, scored

Speaker 1 this Sunday. Scored his first touchdown.
We just did a season.

Speaker 1 I'm just mad because I didn't just bet every tight end to score a touchdown because every tight end scored a touchdown, basically.

Speaker 4 Can I tell you something? Yeah. I don't love National Tight End Day.

Speaker 1 I do if it could make us money next year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if we had capitalized on it. It would be nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 If we can make a note for National Tight End Day next year.

Speaker 4 I feel like recently tight ends, they get their fair share of the publicity, right? But

Speaker 9 there's a lot of fanfare about how tight ends don't make fanfare. Yeah.
They're just

Speaker 4 one of them is dating the most famous person in the world.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 4 But they get no love.

Speaker 1 They all scored, though. Let's do a blocking.
We should have bet it.

Speaker 1 That's the only thing I'm upset about.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that they were going to actually all play

Speaker 1 the most incredible games in National Tight End Day.

Speaker 4 Let's do a National Blocking Tight Ends Day. I like it.
The guys that are real high up in the 80s.

Speaker 4 Numbers 88 and 89. They just go out there and they get called out maybe once a series.
Mercedes-Lewis? Yeah, Mercedes-Lewis. Just like the real chunky guys, real heavy legs.
Yeah. Don't run very fast.

Speaker 4 Let's celebrate those guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they all went off. And Travis Kelsey scored his first touchdown of the season.
This is.

Speaker 4 And he looked good today, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. He looked good.
The Chiefs' defense won this game. The game basically came down to it was a seven-point game and a half.
And then the Raiders started

Speaker 1 on the Chiefs 28, started started a drive on the Chiefs 28, started a drive on the Chiefs 3, and they only got three points out of it. That was the game.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the one they started on the 28, they got a field goal. The one they started on the 3, they got stonewalled four straight plays.
And then Patrick Mahomes went on a 19-play, 90-yard drive.

Speaker 1 That's like an Army offense. 19-play, 90-yard drive.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Raiders got stopped at fourth and goal on the three-yard line or four-yard line with 3.27 in the third quarter. They didn't get the ball back till 8.44 in the fourth.

Speaker 4 Was it the Raiders or was it the Titans that had that offensive standout? It was at the goal line, and they ran like three plays out of shotgun, like three running plays, I think, out of shotgun.

Speaker 1 I don't know if.

Speaker 4 I think that might have been the Titans, but the similar thing with the Raiders, just like not being able to get it in there.

Speaker 1 They can't run the ball. They averaged 1.6 yards per carry today.

Speaker 4 Would Madison have like 14 carries for 15 yards? Yeah. It was a bad scene if you're a Raiders fan.
Yeah. And it was the Kermit the Frog revenge game for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 It was, but they didn't cover.

Speaker 4 They remembered that shit. The back door.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it didn't count for that.
But yeah, the Chiefs' defense is awesome. I don't, like, and Patrick Mahomes threw another interception.
I don't think it matters. He just,

Speaker 1 he just needs to, like, Patrick Mahomes with this defense, he needs to just have like three or four good drives a game

Speaker 1 and extend plays like he does. And they did ball control.
They just held the ball and they suffocated the Raiders. And yeah, their defense is so, so for real.

Speaker 4 Are Chiefs fans concerned at all, though? I don't think so. About Mahomes just not playing as dominant as he's played in the past?

Speaker 1 Well, I think they probably should trade for another weapon. Actually, Seth Walder said on Twitter, I think he does analytics for ESPN, he said

Speaker 1 the Chiefs should call the Jets about Devontae Adams,

Speaker 1 which actually would be an interesting trade.

Speaker 4 Flip him.

Speaker 1 Do you think Devontae Adams is on the trade market?

Speaker 1 Nope. Why not? He's a Jet.
Jet for three more years.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 Okay. But should they call?

Speaker 1 They should call. They should call.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you take a call?

Speaker 4 Make the Jets say yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because the Raiders didn't want to trade him to the Chiefs, but what if the Jets trade him to the Chiefs? Who cares?

Speaker 1 That's such a funny thing. I don't know.

Speaker 4 That would be very funny. It would be.
It would be very funny. Play spoiler memes.

Speaker 4 Spoiler the Raiders.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 This probably isn't the most shocking thing I'm about to say.

Speaker 1 We do like him, but Antonio Pierce failed the down 14 score late two-point conversion tests.

Speaker 4 Checks out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I never expected it.
Did we ask him? We might have asked him. I don't know if we did.

Speaker 4 But he did. He passed the don't kick a field goal when you're trailing by like nine points at the one-yard line.
That was nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, which he failed last week.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up, Bo Nicks.
Bo Nicks. Broncos 28.
Panthers 14. Bo Nicks had an awesome game.
National tight end day. Adam Troutman had his career high in the first half and a sick TD catch.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the Broncos, this is what playing the Panthers is like. It's fun.
It's really fun. It's really, really fun.

Speaker 4 21 points in the second quarter. Bryce Young didn't look

Speaker 4 as bad as he has looked.

Speaker 4 As bad. He wasn't good today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 4 let's say it this way. Do you think Bryce Young,

Speaker 4 his trade value increased, decreased, or stayed the same after today?

Speaker 1 I think the

Speaker 1 bad. The Panthers should have benched him the second he finished that first drive for a touchdown.
Yeah. He went up 7-0.
Because that was it. That was the peak.
You should have gotten out right then.

Speaker 1 That was basically you're hot on the blackjack table, walk away a winner. Like, that was it right there.

Speaker 4 You got to do a pump and dump with Bryce Young. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to script out some sick plays for him right off the bat. And then, after he gets done with it, be like, okay, we can't get you hurt.
Yeah. Come to the sidelines, let another team take you.

Speaker 1 I mean, I do think the Broncos are,

Speaker 1 I mean, their defense is very good. And if Bonix can play with some confidence, you got something.

Speaker 4 Would you say the Broncos are a very quiet five and three?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 4 Why are they such a quiet five and three?

Speaker 1 I think they're a quiet five and three

Speaker 1 because we've seen Bonix's his bad has been really bad I think it's because

Speaker 4 two things the loss to the Steelers in week two

Speaker 4 where they scored six points that was a tough game to watch yep that was really tough and then

Speaker 1 yeah besides that I guess they beat the Jets 10 to 9 yeah that was a bad that was just a bad game to watch because it was that weird storm in New Jersey yeah and their win against the Bucs was kind of you know that was an early game that was kind of lost in the shuffle uh so yeah and people didn't think the Broncos were good then, but now they're five and three.

Speaker 1 This is the best Broncos been in a while.

Speaker 4 They probably started eating uncrustables right before that Bucs game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which, by the way, we have an entire refrigerator full of like 700 uncrustables right now. 800.
800?

Speaker 1 We're ready to go this week.

Speaker 4 So we're trying to beat the Broncos, right? That's the goal.

Speaker 1 But we're not doing it in a way I still have to send out the email to the office being like, don't, it's not a competition. Don't eat 10 a day.
But

Speaker 1 eat as many uncrustables as you want. It's not a competition.
Just do it naturally. How do I send that email?

Speaker 1 Or should I not even send an email and just see people because people will just generally just go and grab them. Yeah, that's the way we do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just don't make a big deal out of beating the Broncos. We want to see naturally where we stack up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's fair. Like, I'm probably going to have like four or five a day.

Speaker 9 Maybe. Yeah, I was trying to do math.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're going to break it.

Speaker 9 I think those uncrustables are going to be gone by Wednesday.

Speaker 4 I would personally eat three a day.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 9 We'll beat it by the end of the week for sure. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think we can do that. I like that.

Speaker 1 What means you're saying yes?

Speaker 1 You say you dominate it? Some people are going to eat like seven to ten.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, we'll crush it. You two being two of them.

Speaker 4 What? I just said I'm going to eat three. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I said I was going to eat four or five. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Did JC Horn try to fight Sean Payton after the game? Can you find that clip? I saw it going around. I wasn't able to watch it because I saw it after we started.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure JC Horn tried to fight Sean Payton for doing a fake field goal up 14 or 21.

Speaker 9 He ran up to him, yeah, when the game ended in the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and was like, what the fuck? I mean, the Panthers are just so sad.

Speaker 1 It's a tough watch. It's a tough, tough watch.
I don't really know what you do. All right, here it is.

Speaker 1 Wait, Sean Payton is definitely not someone that gives a fuck about

Speaker 1 good sportsmanship. No, selectively, I'd say the contrary.
Yeah, I don't think he's.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 He ran up on him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think you just gave, that's giving him a piece of your mind. It's just shop talk.
Yeah. Peace of his mind.
Just being upset.

Speaker 1 Trick play on fourth and two while up 28-7 in the fourth quarter. Sean Payton's trying some stuff out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you got to get a look at it. You got to see what works.

Speaker 1 All right. Last up, or we'll talk about Sunday night football as well.
Chargers, 26, Saints, eight.

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert is really good, and so is Lad McConkey.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Lad, football lad.

Speaker 1 Saints might be the worst team in the league.

Speaker 4 They're the Panthers. The Panthers.
You forget about the Panthers.

Speaker 1 So take out the Panthers. Who's the second one?

Speaker 4 Okay, so you got the Titans. Titans.

Speaker 8 You got the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Raiders. Jets.

Speaker 4 The frustrating thing about the Raiders is they're so...

Speaker 4 Gardner Minshew knows where the ball should go, or he knows where he should run, when he should take off and run, but he's just not fast enough to actually get there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And he doesn't have the arm strength to actually get the ball there.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 4 But I don't think that the Raiders are as bad as the Titans.

Speaker 1 I guess the Saints will be better when Derek Carr comes back because they benched Spencer Rattler today for Jake Hayner, which... Yeah, I mean, it's a bad scene.

Speaker 4 Have you seen Jake Hayner's press photos that he did this year? Yeah. They are so zesty.
They are so funny. Yeah.
Zesty. They're the funniest press photos of all time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert was a beast today, though. He's really fucking good.
And hey, listen, guys. Chargers, they win next week.
Might be making some ground.

Speaker 1 I really wish we had beaten the Cardinals for that Super Bowl future. I also wanted to do something real quick.
Now, this is, I'm going to say

Speaker 1 I understand like the content business. I don't want to copy anyone, but I did see this new segment on Inside the NFL called Football Guy of the Week.

Speaker 1 And I wanted to give Football Guy of the Week to Bradley Boseman

Speaker 1 for protecting Justin Herbert after Nathaniel Shepard basically tried to rip his leg off.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Nathaniel Shepard did like the Gator roll with Justin Herbert's leg, tried to shatter his ankle, his knee, and then Boseman saw it happen and he came in and just wiped him out, which was awesome.

Speaker 4 They shouldn't have penalized him for that. Yeah.
And then after they asked him about it, he said, it's probably one of the dirtier plays I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 And then he said, protect your quarterback no matter what. Football guy of the week, football guy of the week.

Speaker 1 And that's you can credit inside the NFL.

Speaker 4 You know, that Harbaugh went up to him after the game was like, Protect your quarterback no matter what. Yeah, he's like, Yeah, you're absolutely right, coach.
I love you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Herbert, yeah, yeah, Harbaugh definitely gave him a game ball and probably like smacked him around a little.

Speaker 4 I'll pay your fine. That was one of the dirtiest plays.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck that guy was doing. He almost like blacked out and forgot that we were in the year 2024 and this wasn't

Speaker 1 just an insane, insane, just trying to twist Justin Herbert's leg.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, Bradley Boseman, first ever football guy of the week. Guys, like that?

Speaker 4 The Saints are dirty.

Speaker 4 They're a dirty team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are.

Speaker 1 They always got it in, you know.

Speaker 9 I got the history. By football guy, I mean, like, he's like a football player.

Speaker 1 No, he's a football guy of the week. Football guy.

Speaker 4 It's like a guy that he is a player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no,

Speaker 4 he's a guy that just protects your quarterback. All he thinks about is football.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Protects your quarterback, no matter what.

Speaker 1 Do you get it? Yeah, I don't think you get it.

Speaker 9 Hank doesn't get get it. I mean, I feel like everyone's there.
Watch it. All players.
Watch inside all.

Speaker 1 They don't get it.

Speaker 1 You don't get it.

Speaker 4 They do a better job explaining than we do.

Speaker 1 All right, last up

Speaker 1 Sunday Night Football, the Cowboys,

Speaker 1 they just did the same thing where

Speaker 1 they were actually playing okay in the first half.

Speaker 1 Niners come out and beat the shit out of them, and then the Cowboys make the game look like it's more competitive than it was by only losing by six.

Speaker 4 Yeah, some nice plays by the 49ers defense. They had a sick interception of Dak.
They almost got another one at the very end of the game, too.

Speaker 1 Dak had some Dak had that one interception where he was basically telegraphing it to a double-covered CeeDee Lamb along the sideline was bad. What was this?

Speaker 1 Trayvon Diggs did a D's nuts joke to reporters. Yeah, this is great.

Speaker 1 After the game.

Speaker 2 This was after the game.

Speaker 2 There was a

Speaker 2 this reporter tweeted something. It was like, what is Trayvon Diggs doing on this play?

Speaker 2 And he just went nuclear on him.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yes. And

Speaker 1 yeah, I'll show you. I'll play it.

Speaker 1 Out of that whole play, that's what you took from that.

Speaker 19 You don't know football. You can't do nothing that I do.
You can't go out there and do nothing. Stay lame, buddy.

Speaker 19 Stop playing me, bro.

Speaker 19 Just asking the question, Trayvon.

Speaker 19 I mean, I'm happy to have you answer the question.

Speaker 19 That's what you got from that. That whole play, that's what you got from that.
I'm asking.

Speaker 19 We can talk about it more.

Speaker 19 What were you doing then?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right at the end.

Speaker 2 He says we can talk about these nuts.

Speaker 4 Oh, Jerry's going to have that guy fired. Yeah.
Or try to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't feel good. Cowboys are

Speaker 1 doesn't feel like good vibes in Dallas right now.

Speaker 4 It doesn't, but this, this is great vibes for the Niners. Yeah.
And Ricky Pearsall got the ball. Was fast out there.
That was cool to see. Yeah.
Good for him.

Speaker 1 And their backup running back, Isaac Garendo, was awesome in Kittle. Yeah.
Kittle showed up for national tight end days. 128 yards and a touchdown.
So Niners back, or do they play the Cowboys?

Speaker 4 I think the Niners might be back. Dak is just.
Purdy looked good, too. Purdy was moving around out there.
He's got, he had Debo back, which is very helpful.

Speaker 4 So, having Debo and Kittle playing at the same time, like the 49ers, I don't think there's anything broken about the 49ers besides the fact that they have a lot of players that aren't playing for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And when they get those guys healthy, I still think that they're a good team.

Speaker 4 They're not as dominant as they've been in the past when they have Christian McCaffrey, but they're still a very, I'd say they're a good football team, even without them.

Speaker 1 And the Cowboys building their entire offense out of just Dak and CeeDee Lamb feels like it's not built for long-term success.

Speaker 4 Did they give the ball to Cook at all?

Speaker 1 Did Dalvin get the ball? Dalvin got six carries for, guess the yards.

Speaker 4 Six carries,

Speaker 4 11 yards. 12.

Speaker 1 12 yards. 12 yards.
And he still got it.

Speaker 4 Still got that burst.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but when you look at who Dak throws the ball to,

Speaker 1 CeeDe had

Speaker 1 13 catches, 17 targets, and then the rest of the team basically

Speaker 1 had 20, the rest of the team had 20 targets. He had 17.

Speaker 1 It feels not sustainable.

Speaker 4 I'm watching this Ricky Pearsall.

Speaker 1 It was an end-around, inside handoff.

Speaker 4 He's going to be fun to watch. Yeah.
We were saying he should be allowed to do the simulated guns.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 If you got maybe Tank Dell.

Speaker 1 Maybe Tank Dell.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you should be allowed to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. Brian Robinson.

Speaker 4 Brian Robinson should be allowed to do it.

Speaker 9 Yep, yeah.

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Speaker 1 Are the Yankees cooked? Let's talk a little World Series.

Speaker 4 Let's talk. I think think Aaron Judge, not a true Yankee.

Speaker 1 Aaron Judge. Is Aaron Boone a true Yankee? No.
No, but Aaron Judge is a loser.

Speaker 4 I think he was a true Yankee player, but can you, he's kind of lost that as a manager.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The game one of the World Series was one of the best baseball games ever.
Yeah, it was cool. It was so exciting, back and forth.

Speaker 1 Freddie Freeman's Grand Slam walk-off home run was one of the coolest moments.

Speaker 1 He just knew the second it hit his bat that it was gone. Yeah, has to be the coolest feeling of all time.

Speaker 4 You watch that, and you think that almost every dude that is that is watching that baseball game has pretended to be that person in that moment when they were young.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Yankees are just like

Speaker 1 Aaron Judge is a regular season merchant. All he does is hit home runs in the regular season, doesn't show up in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Like, that's uh, and if there's one fan base that will not tolerate that, it's the New York Yankees. Yeah, does not have his pinstripes.

Speaker 4 And having a guy like Juan Soto come in and be the only one that's hitting dingers.

Speaker 1 Who's John Carlo?

Speaker 4 Didn't Juan Soto?

Speaker 1 John Carlo hit one on game one. I'm talking about game two.
Yeah, but John Carlo, he hit one to the moon. And John Carlo has been hitting a lot of dingers.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying having a guy like Soto parachute in

Speaker 4 and then be clutch as fuck in the World Series.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And Judge, who's been there and been a great player for the Yankees for a long time, have him still not be able to do anything in that big of a moment. It makes it more glaring.

Speaker 4 It makes it more obvious.

Speaker 1 And he's like, and he's just, it feels like, I mean, it's because he's batting third. I don't know why they don't drop him.
Max, why don't they drop him?

Speaker 2 Well, then you really kill his confidence.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 every big moment in the first two games, Aaron Judge has come up and he's been a zero.

Speaker 2 But you need it, like, the Yankees need Aaron Judge to give you something if you're going to, like, if.

Speaker 1 But every time he comes up, you're like, damn, I wish this was John Carlo. If you're a Yankee fan.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, you could drop him the four. That would be fine.
That would be fine. But it's not.

Speaker 4 I don't like this whole, you're going to kill his confidence if you make him hit in a different place in the lineup. Why? Because then it's like, okay, then you weren't that confident to begin with.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 baseball is such a mental game.

Speaker 2 Like when you're in a slump, you are very fragile.

Speaker 1 And you just got to. You need to trade Turner him and congratulate him.

Speaker 2 You got to hit your way out of it. Like

Speaker 2 there's nothing you can really do other than just try and hit your way out of it.

Speaker 4 But what's more important?

Speaker 4 Having Judge be well mentally or putting him further back in the lineup so he's not doing as much damage to you by having him hit sooner in the order. It's the World Series.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but

Speaker 2 are you just going to punt potentially your best player?

Speaker 4 But maybe he wakes him up.

Speaker 4 It should be potentially your best player.

Speaker 9 It's the World Series. Is he your best player or not? He's playing like shit.

Speaker 2 But baseball is so different.

Speaker 9 You can be the best player in the world

Speaker 2 and be playing poorly.

Speaker 2 Like, you just got to like.

Speaker 9 I feel like playoff averages are pretty good representations of your playoff performance. It's not like a fluke.

Speaker 1 No, he's been bad. He's on the five series.
I know.

Speaker 1 He's been bad all playoffs.

Speaker 2 I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying, like, that's the only reason why I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 I love our good friend Tommy Smokes.

Speaker 1 He's gone back to the dark side. He's trying to be positive all year.
And I don't know if you guys have seen, but he's gone back to the dark side. And his tweets are very funny because he's just

Speaker 1 ruthless about the Yankees. He was calling, let me find it.

Speaker 1 That game falls on Aaron Judge and his pathetic ninth inning at bat, Volpy 2. Soto showed up, and nobody else.
Too little too late, just not a serious team.

Speaker 1 I guess at least we're heading back to the Bronx. Oh, wait, no, what was the one?

Speaker 1 He had one with Carlos Roton. Did he delete it? He called him a fat pig.

Speaker 1 Which I'm just like.

Speaker 1 he's like just basically like he's not ready for this moment he's a fat pig they're just the Yankee fans are brutal then you had the uh the scene at at Billy's right the uh bar in the Bronx where they were cheering when Shohei got hurt I have no problem with that

Speaker 9 yeah at a bar if it was if it's if it's a crowd they pay tickets to go it's one thing but

Speaker 9 At a Yankee bar in the Bronx.

Speaker 1 And you're also so desperate for anything. Like, maybe don't cheer, but you know, they're all happy.

Speaker 1 Like, that's just how fandom works.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but

Speaker 4 you can think that and also think that's beneath the Yankees.

Speaker 1 No, I think they're desperate.

Speaker 1 I think they're into desperate.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but being desperate is beneath the Yankees. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I got tremendous joy out of the fact that game one,

Speaker 9 Aaron Boone made like, you know, it's the players, but the manager basically cost him the game. And game two, by putting someone in who hasn't played meaningful baseball in a month.

Speaker 9 And then game two, he just did the same thing, but with a batter.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 It was insane how he let him get himself in that spot two games in a row.

Speaker 1 Yeah, game one,

Speaker 1 when he put in

Speaker 1 Cortez, it was just like, what are you doing, dude? Two pitches.

Speaker 8 He's been pitching good.

Speaker 1 Here's the bottom line. The Dodgers are just so fucking good.
They're so goddamn good. Their bullpen's insane.

Speaker 1 Their plate discipline is insane. Like, if they don't swing,

Speaker 1 it's going to be a ball.

Speaker 1 The game one ump was horrendous, but

Speaker 1 they're just a wagon. Like, you can't make a single mistake with the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 And as bad as Aaron Boone's been and Aaron Judge has been, I don't know, I don't know who's beating the Dodgers right now, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, Otani is going to be a big factor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I still think they'll probably beat him. I don't know.
I mean, Tommy Edmond. Guy just makes big, gets big hits.

Speaker 1 They just got dudes everywhere.

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Speaker 1 Who's back of the week, Hank?

Speaker 9 My who's back of the week is Shorts.

Speaker 1 Oh, you seriously don't have a single Who's Back of the Week?

Speaker 9 I was going to talk about baseball. I also, I mean,

Speaker 9 we just saw a commercial for Krispy Kreme McDonald's collab. Yeah.
Which is heading to pretzel for the last hour. With the buns?

Speaker 4 So your who's back? The buns or donuts?

Speaker 9 I don't know. It looks, I was blown.
It's like the, you know, the Avengers and the Justice League getting together. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's pretty incredible. Looks delicious.
That's one of those things that people always talk about. Like, oh, they get this burger.
It's got donuts as the buns.

Speaker 4 And it's usually at a place that just does Instagrammable brunches. Like, they make their dishes so that you can take pictures of them, not so you can eat them.

Speaker 4 I've had some bad experiences. Like, not bad, but I don't think that it's.
I would rather have a hamburger and then a donut on the side. But I will try this.

Speaker 2 Duke's back, Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh, what happened with Duke?

Speaker 4 They beat Arizona State by 50

Speaker 9 in a

Speaker 1 scrimmage. Scrimmage.
Arizona State's bad.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Duke beat him by 50. Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay. How'd Cooper look?

Speaker 2 I don't know. This was also a scrimmage, but they won 103 to 47.

Speaker 1 Okay, they might be back. Fuck.

Speaker 1 That's an insane. Yeah, they might be back.
God damn it. They might be back.

Speaker 1 This is going to piss me off.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to go back to being.

Speaker 9 I can't fake it. I feel like I've made my claims

Speaker 9 pretty steadfast with Duke. Like, I'm not going to go back and hop all the way back on the bandwagon this year.
I'll just say it.

Speaker 1 You're not

Speaker 1 excited about this?

Speaker 9 No, I'll always root for them, but

Speaker 9 I'm not going to be beating the drum for Duke basketball.

Speaker 1 But.

Speaker 9 But I will root for them more than I root for anyone else.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's fair.
That's fair. Yeah.
That's fair. Very fair, Hank.

Speaker 1 PFT, who's your who's back?

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is Pup Punk is playing in New Haven. Oh, hell yes.
On Friday night. So I hope the World Series will be over by then.
I think that's when Game 6 would be, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's the night of Game Six. I think some people from the New York office are going to go out.
We're going to take a bus from New York, but it should be a fun time.

Speaker 4 We're playing at Toad's Place, which is one of those awesome venues that we play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's cool. You're playing Friday night? Friday night.
Friday night, Friday night.

Speaker 4 Friday night out there. Yes.
And you sit backstage at that spot and you see like the Beatles on the wall. You see like the Rolling Stones.
It's a very, very cool place.

Speaker 4 So very excited to go. Where are you going to get pizza from?

Speaker 4 So we had pizzas from two places last time.

Speaker 4 Is Rosie's one of them?

Speaker 9 Rosie's, Sally's, Frank Pepe's.

Speaker 4 Okay, so we had, I think last time we had Sally's and Frank Pepe's. And am I allowed to say I like both? Or do you have to pick one?

Speaker 1 No, of course.

Speaker 9 I mean, they're both fantastic. They're awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're awesome.

Speaker 4 So I'll be eating a fuckload of pizza. But yeah, it should be fun.
I think we got tickets on sale now. And we're doing a costume contest because it's the night after Halloween.
Oh, hello.

Speaker 4 $500 prize to the best costume. And I'm going to match $500 of my own cash.
So you can win a thousand bucks best costume.

Speaker 1 Hell yes. What are you going to be?

Speaker 12 I can't tell you that.

Speaker 4 If you have to ask, you can't afford it. I'm going to go as Jaden.

Speaker 1 Oh, be careful. Be careful.

Speaker 4 You get problematic.

Speaker 1 My who's back is the UFC. Because did you guys see that guy who got his jaw wrenched harder than anyone's ever gotten their jaw wrenched?

Speaker 1 That was crazy. Hamzat Kamaev did that to

Speaker 1 Whitaker, I want to say. And

Speaker 1 he basically just shattered his jaw with a chokeout. And I don't really understand how it happened.
He tapped so quick, and he, like, they showed a picture the next day.

Speaker 1 His jaw is just completely fucked.

Speaker 4 Did you see that video of, I think it was at the weigh-in? There was a guy from, I want to say Kazakhstan that just showed up and got on the mic to ask a question.

Speaker 4 He's like, I am an undefeated fighter from Kazakhstan. I'm 5-0.
Dana White, please give me an opportunity to fight on short notice. I will fight anyone.

Speaker 4 And then Dana like sized him up and was like, What weight class are you? He's like, I think he said lightweight. And he's like, Okay, I'll give you a fight.
Holy shit!

Speaker 4 Yeah, just got him up on stage. It was like, You look like you can fight.
The guy had

Speaker 4 cauliflower ears. So Dana just looked at that and was like, Yeah, fuck it.
If you win a fight, then I'll give you an actual fight.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, that's incredible. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm rooting for that guy, whatever his name is.

Speaker 1 All right, we got anything else?

Speaker 1 I've moved on.

Speaker 1 Not actually.

Speaker 1 I have not moved on.

Speaker 9 You've moved on for tonight. Tomorrow probably doesn't get much better.

Speaker 1 No, I'm going to wake up tomorrow. I'm just so mad.

Speaker 9 Because also, especially a game like that,

Speaker 9 it's going to get brought up to you when you don't want it to.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. For the next week.
Oh, yeah. Oh, it's going to be.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Especially in this off. There's nothing worse

Speaker 2 coming into the office after a bad loss. It's like every person comes up to you like you just lost a family member.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 Don't say I know like that, Hank.

Speaker 4 What loss were you thinking of, Hank?

Speaker 4 When does that happen to you?

Speaker 9 Bruins last year against the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Such a dick.

Speaker 4 You're an asshole, Hank.

Speaker 1 I love you.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Good show, boys. Numbers.
19.

Speaker 1 5.

Speaker 1 11. Memes, you want it?

Speaker 1 pass three.

Speaker 1 I was giving it to you.

Speaker 1 I'll go 99.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 1 Fifteen

Speaker 1 just half. No, we had twelve.

Speaker 1 Fifteen.

Speaker 1 Looking

Speaker 1 guessed.