NFL Week 7, Deshaun Watson Goes Down, Lions Keep Rolling, Russell Wilson Is Back + Playoff Baseball And Who's Back

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We have a World Series set. We're going to do Who's Back of the Week.
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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 21st, week 7.
What? What?op! That was a well-timed whop! Some spread Some spread What do they call? In Detroit where the offenses went golf As Aaron Alex Jones said I got the touchdown documents right here. Starting the scoring for the Vikings in the first.
It was a back and forth affair as Sonic and Knuckles ran through the Vikings defense until David Montgomery got the coins hit out of him on way to an Ivan Pace of Play touchdown. The game came down to a decision by the psycho Dan Campbell to stay at the Bates Motel

as Jake sealed it with his leg and the Lions are atop the NFC North. Lions 31, Vikings 29.
We go down to Atlanta for a burn fight where the Seahawks may be beaking at the right time. Did Jason Tatum send a text before the game? because Kobe Bryant picked off Kirk Cousins

as Seattle went Mamba mentality on the Atlanta offense all afternoon. the right time.
Did Jason Tatum send a text before the game? Because Kobe Bryant picked off Kirk Cousins

as Seattle went mamba mentality

on the Atlanta offense all afternoon.

Bijan Wilkes Booth Robinson

ruined a couple really nice

plays from the Seattle defense

running out of the pistol formation.

But it wasn't enough as Bussin

with the boy A. Maffe undressed

Kirk Cousins and the Falcons

will need to see a Taylor

to get looking right again.

The Seahawks 34, the Falcons

Thank you. with the boy A.
Maffe, undress Kirk Cousins, and the Falcons will need to see a tailor to get looking right again. The Seahawks 34, the Falcons 14.
Up to the frozen tundra where the Packers wore their winter warning jerseys to welcome in 75 degree weather. Josh Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt.
His name is my name too. Whenever we go out, people always shout, there goes Josh Jacobs Jingleheimer Schmidt.
Da-da-da-da-da-da. Into the end zone for a pass for the first time in his career.
Joe was doing mix on it, scoring two touchdowns while Tucker Robert Kraft ran a nice rub route for a tug and got some love in the end zone from his quarterback. With the time winding down, Brandon Walker McManus staved off a migraine due to the sunny conditions and mild weather and won the game for the Packers.
Green Bay 24, Houston 22. Whip, whip! To Western New York, where in honor of Josh Allen's 100th career start, the Bills acquired Super Amario Brothers Cooper, who took a page out of the Aaron Rodgers playbook eating some mushrooms making the Buffalo offense look a lot bigger and stronger.
The Bills defense came out in the second half looking very demore, very mindful as Hamlin got an interception and they shut down Mason Big Country Kyle Rudolph. Going 10-0 in the game.
No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

As I score 34 straight.

The Bills 34.

The Titans 10. We go across

the pond to Henry

Lockwood from London.

What's up, boom, dude?

Over to Wembley

Stadium where Drake

Maggie May made a first class

Fool out of the Jaguars defense

In his first drive

Capping it with a touchdown to Jemai

Call me hasty

Brian Tormish Shelby

I don't know whether to go boomers or British

He had no limitations in the second quarter

Scoring on a six yard touchdown

And much like his namesake

The British Centurion

Tank Bixby dominated the competition

Thank you. in the second quarter, scoring on a six-yard touchdown.
And much like his namesake, the British Centurion, Tank Bixby dominated the competition, scoring two touchdowns and making the Patriots wave the white flag. Jaguars 32, Patriots 16.
Thanks, Henry. Thanks, Henry, and also thanks, Boom, and also thanks, British Boom.
Thanks, British Boom. We head back stateside to the Meadowlands where Max is live for the Eagles and Giants.
In his return to MetLife, rich homie Saquon said, let me flex on the Giants. AJ said, what can Brown do for you? As the touchdown delivery was expedited on fourth and three from 40 yards out.
Finally, Bryce huffed and puffed and blew Daniel Jones down to get one of the Eagles eight sacks of the day. Eagles dominate 28-3.
Thanks, Max. Back also stateside in San Francisco where the purty little lie going around the league is that the Niners are still good.
Kareem Bergen, Huntin' Fish Club said, murder? What murder? As he ran for two scores through the San Fran defense. Patrick Daylight coming me want to go Mahomes.
Stumbled and bubbled for a long run and telling everyone to read a book. Andy, off a buy, is free money.
I wish I'd learned that lesson beforehand, Boom. It's coming up on Halloween.
His most favorite time of year, Boom. Chiefs 28, Niners 18, murder? What murder? We go over to Indianapolis where Anthony Eitha Richardson is stealing money from my good friend, billionaire Jim Irsay.
Don't tell Rob Schneider, but there was a boil spill as Tim came in. Relief for Tyler Huntley.
He's not that old. He's John New as Smith scored to take an early lead, but the Colts had something to beyond say about it as Matt, game on name, game on name, had three field goals.
And Alec Baldwin-Engle isn't technically liable,

but he did drop the ball when he took a start at a big play.

Colts, 16.

The Dolphins, 10.

Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston-Cuyahoga.

Such a fine sight to see.

It's TTR, my lord.

Jameis only for use inoga Such a fine sight to see It's TTR my lord Jameis only for use In case of emergency Come on Watson Your Achilles popsome Keep the trainers far away From your crotch son. The Bengals, 21.
The Browns, 14. And that was the fastest two minutes week seven.
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That was a fun early slate. Terrible late slate.
Yeah. Very fun early slate, though.
Yeah, it was pretty good. It was pretty good.
We had some witching hour drama, some back and forth. about the early early slate yeah well at the london slate let's start with that game jaguars 32 patriots 16 uh good news for doug peterson i'm a fucking moron because i think i i watched the i watched the opening drive for the patriots they scored uh it looked like there were some business decisions happening on the jaguars defense and i was like Doug Peterson is so fired and then I forgot that the Patriots also stink and Trevor Lawrence ended up looking great and they so did Brian Thomas Brian Thomas might be the best rookie wide receiver now that Malik Nabors missed a couple games Marvin Harrison is like either he scores three touchdowns or doesn't catch a ball.
Brian Thomas is the real deal, looking awesome. But, yeah, the Patriots stink and Hank.
Bad news, Gerard Mayo used the S word. They called your team soft.
They were soft. Is that a bad thing? He said we're a soft football team across the board.
We talk about what makes a tough football team, and that's being able to run the ball, being able to stop the run, and that's being able to cover kicks. We did none of those.
Are you saying is it a bad thing to be a soft football team? No, I don't think it's a – he's right. Yeah, no, he's correct in what he's saying, but it's always a bad thing to have it be said.
It's a bad reflection on his coaching that the team that he coaches is soft. He also are soft.
Our good friend Feidelberg pointed this out to me last week, and I've been monitoring it. Gerard Mayo is, I think, the heir apparent to Jim Caldwell.
Is he alive on the sidelines? Because his face never changes. Yeah, he just kind of stares off into the distance.
I agree with Hank. I don't think that he is.
He's not wrong. It's early to be pressing the S button, though.
Yeah. Although this could.
What's that old saying? It's like hard times create soft people. Yeah.
Soft people create soft times. Soft times create hard people.
Yeah. So you better hope that that's where you are.
Soft times. Soft times create soft people.
Soft times create hard times. No.
Soft times create. Wait, wait.
Soft times create soft people. Soft people create hard times.
Hard times create hard people. You better hope that's where you're at is the hard times.
Are your guys getting harder? They need to get harder. Feels like we're getting softer.
Softer is not good. I know.
Because that's soft people, which then leads to hard times. He's also a defensive coach, defensive player when he played, and the defense is the softest of them all.
You've got a soft D. Yeah.
Super soft. In this entire length, you're soft people creating hard times for yourself, but we haven't had hard people created out of those hard times.
Yeah, I mean, it's a process. You've got to get a hard a hard guy you got to draft a hard guy in the draft do you think um well jerry jones to take a look at him he'll tell you drake may look good drake may did look good yeah so that's and that's really all that matters uh outside of being a soft football team but yeah you lost the jaguars who were got smoked by the jaguars looked like they were ready to quit ready to fire doug peterson Peterson, but Drake may look good.
That's what you have to just, when you put your

head down on your pillow at night, you should be like,

Drake may look good. Yeah, and losing the

London game first thing in the morning is just no

fun way to start a football Sunday.

No, it's not. No, it just

puts you in like a bummer mood just to

right out of the gate. There is a way for

soft teams to win in the NFL, though.

If you just embrace the gunslinger mentality of Drake May. Yeah, you just spread them out.
Tell Mayo to put the spread on. Shootouts.
I don't know that we're at a shootout level. We gotta go through some more hard times so that we can create hard players.
Would you say, though, now, losing the Jaguars is definitely bad because the Jaguars are bad. But wouldn't this – you don't really want to win football games, right? No.
You kind of want to lose and get the number one pick and take Travis Hunter probably. But you just want Drake May to look good.
And he did. And he looked good.
The first drive was exciting. It was like, oh, let's go.
Yeah. i'm happy i woke up quit yeah and then they didn't quit and credit to you hank he did call the trap game correctly yeah uh the jaguars is as bad as the jaguars are they're better than the patriots definitively and they were acclimated and they were acclimated uh and trevor lawrence did look good he had one of his best games of the season tank bigs, absolute monster.
Do you know Tank Bigsby's real name? Yeah, I heard it this morning. It's somehow, so Tank Bigsby was named Tank Bigsby because it's a classic story that you could have just, you knew it before you even read it.
Can I guess it? His dad, basically, he just ran around when he was a little kid and bumped into things and I was going to guess grandmother. Yeah.
I think it was aunt and dad. He would just run into things and then shake it off.
So he became Tank. But his real name's actually somehow even better than Tank.
Tank is his nickname, which Tank Bigsby deserves more credit for being one of the coolest names in the NFL. His real name is Cartavious.
Cartavious is pretty solid. That's fucking awesome.
You don't like it, Max? It's not better than Tank. I mean, Tank obviously is a great name, but Cartavious is a great name too.
Cartavious Bigsby? He's Cardi B. Yeah.
Cardi B. He is Cardi B.
But it's Tank Bigsby. I understand.
No, Tank Bigsby deserves more credit for being, one, a good football player, and two, having maybe top three name in the NFL. It's pretty solid.
And I think we've been saying for the last few weeks that he looks better than Travis Etienne does. Yeah.
Right? Like pretty much consistently, at least for this season. And then we know that Doug Peterson appears to lie before games and then tell the truth after games.
Yeah. Tell the truth.
So after this game, they asked him if Tank was going to replace Etienne, and he said, I don't think so. I'm a believer where injury doesn't replace your position.
I think you have to have a fair competition. Tank has done some good things.
Obviously, we're going to continue to find ways to put the ball in his hands too. I disagree with that.
I think that injury can absolutely 100% change things up, especially when the guy that comes in for the injured guy is better than the injured guy when the injured guy wasn't injured. And his name's Tank Bigsby.
And his name is Cartavious Bigsby. Cartavious Tank Bigsby.
Bigsby doesn't get enough credit either. Bigsby's great.
Bigsby's a great name. I just looked at the name Tank Bigsby for a while when I was taking notes.
I was like, damn, we don't talk enough about how awesome this name is. And he was awesome today at 118 yards.
Bigsby sounds English. I remember the first time I heard his name.
Yeah, at Auburn? Yeah, because Auburn played Penn State in a non-conference game. I was like, who the fuck is Tank Bigsby? It was early in the season.
Maybe one of the coolest running back names since Cadillac Williams. The NFL has a surplus of tanks right now.
Yeah, Tank Dell. Maybe next game is going to be in the Ukraineraine overseas oh we'll fund it send them there yeah uh the so the jags survived the like doug peterson fire game because he was going to get fired in this game if he lost it did you have you guys looked at the jags schedule coming up uh yes because they're they're bad they're he's going to get fired very soon they're playing the packers they first of all they don't have a bye week until week 12 i think they probably just said we're good we don't need a bye week uh after the london game but they're playing the packers at the eagles vikings lions texans that's their next five games yeah so if you're doug peterson just just close your eyes and enjoy this win thank god you won this game actually maybe not maybe he wishes he lost this game because the next five games are going to be torture that way he can be like it wasn't my fault look what we're doing yeah because there's no way that they could have fired him and then gotten a bump against the packers eagles vikings lions and texans and been like oh they they it was doug peterson's fault yeah that's true so if you're doug i they always say like i wish there was a way to know that you're in the good old days when you're in them.
Right now, Doug, you have to take this entire flight back. Get hammered.
Drink all the free drinks. Go into the office next week.
Just take a bunch of the snacks that they have set out. Stuff them in your pockets.
Steal from the facility because you're probably not going to come back in a matter of probably, I'd say, three weeks, probably two weeks, maybe. Doug Peterson is at the point right now of every single one of my weekends on Saturday morning when I'm like, what if I just get super hot and just win all my bets? He's 2-5, and he's like, what if we just run the table here? 2-5 looks good.
2-5 is a lot better than 1-6, but it's not going to happen. Just like I'm never going to do that.
Doug Peterson is not going to run the table, but you have to at least sit in that moment all week and just embrace it and be like, you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know if I can just win everything.
You never know. He might have changed.
Yeah. So Chap sent this to me, the sad Jaguars stat of the week.
The Jaguars 22 points at the score in the first half is their highest total in the first half since 2017. It's been a minute.
That is a long time. So if you're a Jags fan, enjoy this.
I don't think it's going to make much of a difference on what happens in the future of the team, specifically their coach, by the end of the year. But it's always better to see in front of essentially your home fans over in England.
You get a win. Yeah, you got a win.
And Hank, you got to start your day watching a soft football team. But again knew the first drive you knew yeah it's drake may that's it that's all that matters this year for you drake may and then you fix everything is dron mayo the guy though no yeah so i know he was getting criticized uh for the two-point conversion when they scored they were down 15 he's he they went for two they scored a touchdown went two, didn't get it with 10 minutes left, basically ending the game because they then needed to score twice.
Is that not what you're supposed to do in that situation? No. Kind of.
The thing we always talk about, I think you go either way with that one. Down 14 is what we always talk about because it's still a one-possession game it or not.
They didn't get the two point conversion so it was a nine point game so they needed to get a stop, a score, and then a stop and a score. Whereas if they had just kicked the extra point and they're down eight, you can at least tell your huddle, hey, all we need is a stop and a score.
I don't know. I always go back and forth because you kind of wish you knew what you have to get but i also understand for a soft football team you probably want to keep them mentally in it as long as they possibly can that's the argument is you you want to know if you have to go for two now or later and if you're going to make your two-point conversion you'd rather have that information as early as possible so you can plan out the rest of the game the problem is when your offense stinks and you haven't really done much, is it actually that much more of a likelihood that you will get two more scores in the fourth quarter when you haven't scored since the second quarter to begin with? And when you have a soft football team, you probably want to use every advantage to keep them mentally locked in.
This is one of those debates and arguments that I saw online, and I got to say I think both sides i do too i think both sides are 100 correct on this i think it completely depends on your football team because you you have the math people that have run these games and simulation and the logic if you're like a game theory guy it makes sense i understand it but also if you're just a football guy that hates computers and stats and you hear that argument you're like that's pussy football well i'm like yeah he's kind of right and it's not it's not remotely close to our uh hank was just laughing at that on-site kick attempt by the 49ers we're taping a little early so we can let memes watch the jets um the and the mets it's not the down 14 going for two conversation i stand by that that's math and that also is you don't change the fact that it's still a one score game that is settled this is down 15 going for two you change the fact that you now have a two score game versus a one score game yep yep and i don't think i if he had not done what he did if he had just kicked a field goal or kicked the extra point i would absolutely not have a problem with that correct i don't think it was one of these no-brainer situations. We also had the longest international touchdown and also the first ever special teams touchdown from Parker Washington, the 96-yard punt return, which that's kind of crazy.
That's great because the people over in England, they love the kicking game. Yeah.
If you put a ball in your hand and you kick it, they will stand up and cheer for you. And to get to see one run back over there, that was two great plays and one for them.
I'm hoping there was at least one guy in the stands who was like, I didn't even know you could do that. Because I've been coming to these games for 20 years.
And it never happened. That's amazing.
Yeah. You didn't golf today? No.
Okay. It was a beautiful, beautiful day.
It was beautiful. We thought you had maybe golfed and done the phone watching,

which would have been totally fine because if you have a soft football team,

that's –

No, I'm a committed fan.

I was up early.

I watched the whole game.

And then after halftime, I wish I was golfing, but I wasn't.

I'm going to really look into this Gerard Mayo being dead or alive

because he potentially is the heir apparent to Jim Caldwell. Do you think that the team is has made you soft as a fan hank no the patriots never made you soft maybe just by the so many good times i guess yeah in in the analogy of the analogy of good times we had the best times so you you're the softest man softest fan yeah i mean oh you're the softest fan out of out of the people in this in this room full of losers and hard times yeah that's true big cat are the hardest men hard times hard times make hard people do you feel like this experience is making you harder are you getting harder right now as we talk to you are you just kind of checked out and accepting like it happens to a lot of fan bases i guess it's just my turn are you able to get hard anymore i don't know or it's gonna it's been a while since i haven't been able to get hard uh i think it's more what you said it's every fan base has to go through with this at some point you can't win forever yeah and drake may and drake man you just got to keep like you just need to keep saying to yourself drake may drake may has looked good in the first two games that he's started, and that's all that matters for you right now.
Nothing else. Christian Gonzalez, stud.
You got a stud on the offense, stud on the defense. Build around that, yeah.
You can build around that. Yeah, you just need 20 more guys.
And a coach. And a coach.
A bunch more studs, and then Hank's going to get hard again. Is there a chance Gerard Mayo gets fired? No, I think he's kind of the craft.
Yeah, but we're in the craft is in his. He might be in his Jerry Jones era where he's going to get like, hey, I'm not going to live forever.
I need it now. But he already.
Yeah, he already had it. It's different.
It hasn't been that long. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, Robert Kraft actually did it right. Like winning that many Super Bowls closer to whenever he passes away versus Jerry Jones, who had to win the Super Bowls and then live for 30 years more watching his team not win.
Yeah, the legacy is kind of finalized on Robert Kraft. Yeah, he's good.
He's good. So, yeah, it's a tough spot for him because to fire Mayo would be like, yeah, I made a terrible, terrible mistake.
I made a mistake. Don't reflect directly on him and maybe negatively affect his Hall of Fame induction that he's planning on.
Also, I mean, it's brutal for Mayo just like having to follow Bill Belichick. Yeah.
Like that's, I mean, Gerard Mayo saying we're a soft football team. Bill Belichick would never coach a soft football team.
I think Belichick would say that that to his team but he would never he would never say it publicly right yeah and he'd never actually think it truly i think he would i think he would think it truly i even in the midst of the dynasty he was probably like you guys are playing like a bunch of soft yeah he's probably said it when they've when they've lost before for sure yeah i think so but then but he also knew that it was relative that like comparatively they weren't actually that soft now it would be a soft move on mayo's part he was calling them soft in the media to get them mad mayo's just like saying they're soft because they're soft yeah but it would be a bad move for mayo to call them soft just to the media and not say it to their faces yeah it'd be a good move for belichick to call them soft to the media in order to light a fire into their asses yeah you hope mayo says that in the locker room too not don't come back like what i i don't know what i said he did say it so there was um a couple guys on the team that said yeah i mean he wouldn't say anything to you guys that he hasn't said to us so he did say that and then and then jaylen polk um he's got some issues a lot of drops with his hands and with. Just a rookie, though.
Just a rookie. But then after the game, do you see what he put up on Instagram? Oh, no.
He just put up a black screen, right? With hand emojis. Yeah.
Do you know what the hand emoji was doing? Praying? No. No, not praying.
Catching a football? Dropping a football? First of all, it was the dot, dot, dot, and then the peace sign. like see ya i'm out of here well he could be

saying goodbye to london they probably met someone in london you met somebody in london yeah he's like see that was fun for almost 48 hours didn't they invent the the peace sign is actually for victory in england right they started that in world war ii the usc trojans started that that's Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're just going to zero dark 31.

Yeah.

Okay.

A great game to start the uh early slate lions 31 vikings 29 this game fucking rocked you knew this game was going to be awesome when dan campbell decided to start the game with a fake punt from his own 30 that didn't work on a fourth and seven uh but the lions end up winning the lions are it's crazy to think that like the vikings started five and oh go into the bye week five and oh and then come right out of the bye week and now they're second place in the nfc north it is yeah i mean that division just continues to be awesome because the packers won again too but uh nothing to hang your head about if you're a vikings fan right you would like to win this game, because it means a lot in the division, but in terms of how you played, Sam Darnold didn't have his best first half, but he looked pretty good in the second half. Yeah, yeah.
I think you don't hang your head. You just realize that the Lions are really goddamn good, and it's got to be frustrating as hell because you have to play perfect football.
You have to play perfect defensive football against the Lions to beat them. And they even got a defensive touchdown, and it wasn't enough.
And they got that punt, the fake punt, which was gifted them a touchdown for Aaron Jones in the first quarter. Jared Goff, though, is playing out of his mind.
He is, in this last four-game stretch, he's 76 for 90, 1,086 yards, nine touchdowns, and one interception. The last two guys who have had a three-game streak of 140-plus passer rating was Aaron Rodgers in 2011 when he won an MVP, and Kurt Warner in 1999 when he won an MVP.
Jared Goff, plus 850 on DraftKings Sportsbook for MVP. Just saying that.
I love that for Jared. You have it better, right? Preseason.
He's been lights out. And it was crazy, too, because Brian Flores tried to blitz and do his tricks at him, and it didn't work.
Jared was 13 for 15, 163 yards in a touchdown against the Blitz, was carving them up big play after big play. And yeah, this game, I mean, it just showed that both these teams are really fucking good.
They're both really good. And Brian Branch, that dude is so much fun to watch on defense.
Yeah. That's the interception he made.
He is so good. Like that diving play that he had with a little green mouthpiece sticking out of his helmet.
That dude has become one of my favorite guys to watch on the defense side of the ball and that's i don't think again i don't think that um they're at a good spot because of the loss of hutchinson but i do think that they have enough good players on their defense where it won't preclude them from making a super bowl i also i think that they're good enough to get through that and again like, Campbell, he's the king of talking about adversity, manufacturing adversity sometimes. This is a real piece of adversity that they have to get through.
And I feel like there's no better coach than Dan Campbell to get you through it. Their offense is hell.
Their offense is hell to deal with. Every guy.
Every single guy is a guy. Sonic and Knuckles.
Yeah, Sonic and Knuckles. That was a very serious Schefter uh early this morning that jameer gibbs and david montgomery would like to be uh called sonic and knuckles which one's sonic which one's not i believe i believe jameer gibbs is sonic that makes sense sonic is a little bit bigger and he's faster yeah um and we did yeah so i i think that's i believe that's what it is gibbs did have a 45 yard, which made him look like Sonic.
Yeah, that was sick. That's pretty cool, though, to be called Sonic.
It's cooler than Thunder and Lightning because Thunder and Lightning has been done a million times. And they're not a true Thunder and Lightning.
They're not. I like the old Tennessee Titans when it was Lindale White and Reggie Bush, and they called themselves Eat and Run.
Oh, I like that. Yeah, that was good, too.
That's when Lindale was in his fat era. Yeah, Lindale White, tough to bring down.
But yeah, this game, the Lions offense is just, I don't really know what you can do. You can't beat them for four quarters.
Because up front, they can bully you off the line of scrimmage. They've got two weapons at running back.
They've got MVP Jared Goff, and then they've got a great tight end,

and then three, at minimum, very good wide receivers.

Yeah, Tim Patrick has – we said it last week,

but he has walked into that Josh Reynolds role perfectly,

and it all works, and Dan Campbell's a psycho.

Speaking of Aiden Hutchinson, by the way,

I love that the Lions had a report out that – so first of all all he had no nerve or ligament damage which is very good but then there was the report which i love whenever this happens it's a four to six month recovery and uh the super bowl would be just shy of four months so they said that if the lions make the super bowl don't rule out him being able to come back i'm gonna say right now i'm gonna rule him out coming back but i love whenever this happens for a fan base because you got to give that glimmer of hope that's a very nice glimmer of hope they've given them like just just throw it out there it just makes you feel a little bit better we all know the truth he's not gonna come back but it doesn't matter still say there's a chance i could see dan campbell roster spot on him, though, and then making him captain and then never having him in the game, but he's on the sidelines in full pads. Right.
I mean, you're asking him to come back from a severely broken leg in less time than what it should be and be effective. But again, it doesn't matter.
You've got to still give him that hope. It's basically the dumb and dumber that you're saying there's a chance.
Yeah, I guess technically there is. But would you want him back if you're a Lions fan? No, I want.
Because you'd probably get like 40% Aiden Hutchinson with a good chance of him doing something bad to either that same leg or his other leg overcompensating. Or you could just not play him and take the fact that you could still make the Super Bowl without him right no i don't want him back i want the idea that he could be back because in your head when you hear that you think of aiden hutch sim picking up exactly where he left off where he was going to probably be defensive player of the year and that's a really cool thing to just have in your head even though it's fantasy land we all live in fantasy land we all like to live to jump into fantasy land every now and then and just be like, yeah, we could be the biggest free agent signing ever in Super Bowl bye week.
You get the defensive player of the year back. I saw some rumor out there that they had either inquired about or the Saints were considering trading Chase Young.
Let me tell you, if you are the Detroit Lions, you don't want that no you don't want chase he looks awesome chase young is probably the guy who looks the coolest and looks the most athletic compared to what he actually does on the field correct i don't think that that would fit well in that system that we were we were having that debate the other day it uh sean oakman was the other name thrown out there yeah for like what he looks like versus production from what he actually is right i feel like chase young is

tops in the nfl that right now yeah uh by the way i just want to do breaking moves real quick

because this should actually be breaking moves

uh hank is just alerted to me uh we we do barstool sports advisors every single week

uh stew and stew and myself and then this week we had a picks competition between brandon and

Thank you. Hank has just alerted to me.
We do Barstool Sports Advisors every single week. Stu and myself.
And then this week we had a picks competition between Brandon and Jerry. So it's four of us picking games.
We pick five games. Heading into Sunday Night Football, the entire panel is a combined 0-16.
That rocks. That is a historic, historic moment.
That's hard to do. That's just as hard as 16-0.
That's just as hard as 16-0. It might even be harder.
It might be four different people, too. That's just as hard as 16-0.
You would think someone would pick the opposite of the other person. Like, that person's wrong, the other person's right.
But no. What do you guys have for tonight's game? Steelers.
I have the Jets. Oh, I'm on the Steelers.
So, I don't know. You might not want to take the Steelers now.
I statistically do. Yeah, but I mean, when you're hot, you're hot.
When you're cold, you're cold. We actually, so the only way, because it's the three of us and we all pick different things, the only way, Brandon and I have opposite sides.
He has the Steelers. So I guess there's going to be at least one winner.
What's the spread? One and a half is what we had on Wednesday. So you're going to go one and 17.
We're going to go. Well, no.
Jerry has the under. So we could even put two.
We could put two together. Because it could go under in Jets or under in Steelers.
It could get two full wins. That's incredible.
What a day. I knew, too, going into this week.
I was like, I had a great week last week. I'm going to suck this week.
I think on Friday's show, we actually said at the start of the show, if you did well last week, just don't bet this week. Still jumps right in.
Still jumps right in. Okay, anything else? Hats off to Vegas.
Hats off to Vegas. They did it again.
You guys, you know what you're doing. By the way, shout out to Jake Bates, the kicker for the Lions, who, first of all, he did, after he kicked the game-winning field goal, he did the boom, the Big Justice AJ boom dance, which is the new touchdown dance or field goal dance.
He also had this to say afterwards. He said, 18 months ago, I thought I was done with football.
I was working as a brick salesman in Houston. That's a good line that's awesome that's a good line of business to be in good for him him and mincy both brick salesman brick salesman pays well yeah but yeah that's pretty cool story how do you how do you sell bricks i mean i know how you sell one kind of them but yeah i think it's probably uh i don't know the the strength of them like you probably have some bricks that are stronger than others.
Yeah. It's like you just show up and you're like, do you want the good bricks or do you want the bad bricks? Yeah.
Here, take my knife. Try this brick.
Yeah. It's like the Cutco sales people.
Yeah. You bring a hammer.
You're like, try to break this brick. You can't.
Can't do it. Okay.
Next game. Packers.
Oh, by the way, both these teams I feel like are going to go to the playoffs, and both these teams are very, very good. So I'm not – like Vikings, as much as that game probably sucked, especially the way it went down that you were up late and you get that David Montgomery fumble and you're like, holy shit, we're going to win this game.
Because it flipped back and forth constantly. It was like Vikings up big, Lions come back up big vikings back up and then lions win the game late but i think both these teams are both very good teams what if once a year brian flores was like you know what i'm not gonna blitz it all this week they expect me to blitz on like 60 of the plays i'm just not gonna do it yeah we're just gonna run base that was what i was I were a head coach, I would fake punt every single time until the playoffs, and then I would start real punting.
Like Jared Goff would run play action. He turns his back to the line of scrimmage.
He fakes the handoff, and then he turns around expecting it to be a blitz. And he's like, what the fuck? There's so many guys out there.
It would make him think for a second. Yeah, that's true.
Also, Ben Johnson, I forgot to mention this. He was asked, I think it was midweek, someone asked him about like, hey, do you feel like you emptied the playbook a little too much against the Cowboys? He was like, the well is very deep.
I love that. Like, we're good.
We're going to get really fucking weird. We're going to get weird.
He's like, don't worry. Let's see.
This thing is unlimited. He's got an unlimited coffee cup of, yeah, here it is.
Ben johnson on trick plays i'm not worried about putting things on tape if anything it's going to set up the next thing down the road the well is deep i love that so yeah so they're going to have panace will then lateral a ball after he catches the to another lineman yeah i love that so they're playing the lion or they're playing the titans at home do you feel like that's a let's get freaky with a game? No.

That's just run the straight shit and just fuck them up.

Lions at Packers.

That might be a freaky game.

That might be a freaky game. And then Lions at Texans to me feels like a very freaky game.

That could be a freaky game.

Because they're going back to Texas.

Yeah, and they're like, oh, we're close enough to Cowboys.

Yeah.

We've got to really make their cousins feel it too. Something in the air down here just gets me all riled up.
All right. Speaking of, Packers 24, Texans 22.
Max, not over uniforms. They looked like over uniforms for like the whole entire fucking game.
I think they scored 33 points in the first half. It was crazy.
They were scoring so many points. And then the Texans, the Texans offensive line is bad.
CJ Stroud was not good today, but I also can say that I'm not, I'm not going to say CJ Stroud's bad. I think he's got some issues, but he was under attack.
It felt like on every single play. And then we also had at the end of the game to miko ryan's and bobby slowick with some head scratching clock management play calling uh to end the game because they basically decided to settle for a field goal when there was a minute and 45 seconds left and didn't make the packers burn all three of their timeouts if you're going going to do the, Hey, let's run it up the gut for no yards.
You got to make sure they at least burn all their time. You got to commit one way or the other.
They ran it up the gut two times for no yards and then ran an out route that in best case scenario, he catches. I don't remember who was targeted.
That might've been digs me. It might have been take Dale in the best case scenario he catches him and goes out of bounds

and you still don't burn all their timeouts yeah it was very bizarre at

the end of the game there I think the Texans will be okay because

their defense is very very banged up so yeah I wouldn't again I kind of put

this in the same box as I put the Vikings loss in it's like you lost you

lost a tough game against a good opponent you probably did a couple things

that screwed yourself over a little bit I just i would if i were texans fans sitting there watching the end of that game i would be very frustrated with the way that they managed the end of the game because it was you know that jordan love is good enough to take them down the field for a field goal if that's all he needs you gotta try to score a touchdown and i get it like you're you're also trying to get them to burn timeouts but get a little bit creative where they it felt like they just threw away the first and second down plays maybe they watched a lot of tape on the packers and they said we don't really care if jordan love's going to drive down the field for a field goal because they're going to miss the field goal but they got forgetting the fact that they got brandon mcmanis who actually is able to make field goals yes I think, did their old kicker miss an extra point today? Did he? Where is he now? I think he did. Is that Anders? Is he on a team? I think so.
He got picked up? I think so. All right.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
He's on the Niners. Yeah, he did.
He missed an extra point. Yeah, so there you go.
So I think they just got caught watching tape from the Packers games of old and didn't realize they got a new kicker. Yeah, that was a winnable game for the Texans at the end, and they weren't able to do it.
They ran the ball. Joe Mixon is really fucking good, and when they get Nico Collins back, but that was a measuring stick game, and they failed the measuring stick.
I know they're banged up, but their offensive line is a problem. Okay, so in the second half...
See, he shot through for 86 yards. This is kind of a recurring theme for the Texans.
And also, I think a recurring theme for the Packers, that the Texans' second-half offense is atrocious. They're really bad, with the exception of last week.
Last week, they scored 27 points. But before that, they've been dogshit in the second half.
And the Packers' defense has been lights out in the second half. You just got second-haft.
Yeah, you got second-haft. You got second-haft.
86 yards is shocking, though, for C.J. Stroud.
Jordan Love, yeah, it's very shocking. Jordan Love is just Brett Favre.
And I know that that's actually a bad thing because Brett Favre, obviously, is a Hall of Famer, won MVPs, won a Super Bowl. But Jordan Love, now we still have to play the Monday night game with Baker Mayfield.

But Jordan Love has missed two games this year.

He leads the league in touchdowns and interceptions.

That's cool.

15 touchdowns, seven interceptions.

That's very cool.

Maybe there's, maybe, did Mahomes throw a second one?

I don't know.

But either way, he leads it.

He's tied, I think, with Baker with 15 touchdown passes.

But that's, he is Brett Favre.

And he missed two games.

He's missed two games this year.

I'm going to look up right now who's leading the league in interceptions from the quarterback position. Is it Patrick Mahomes still? Patrick Mahomes? Well, no, it's Jordan Love.
Yeah, Jordan Love. Why am I an asshole? Because you just talk about how bad Jalen Hurts is when he throws interceptions.
No, we're consistent on this show. Yeah, we would never do that.
So Patrick Mahomes. That doesn't sound like us.
Also, listen, that was like two months ago. That was preseason max.
It doesn't make a difference. We're talking regular season ball.
And then you guys kept saying how. But here's how it works.
Well, it was also the fumbles. Here's how it works.
When Patrick Mahomes starts doing a lot of anything, that thing actually becomes good. Yeah.
So Patrick Mahomes hadn't shown us the light that interceptions were good when Jalen Hurts was doing it. Not because he wanted to be more like Patrick Mahomes, but just because he was a bad quarterback.
Yeah, he's showing us the new way to do this. Aaron Rodgers started throwing interceptions just this year.
Great quarterback. Great quarterback.
Yeah, PFT had a thousand stats about it. About what? Aaron Rodgers throwing picks.
Yeah. They were mean.
He's probably trying to copy Patrick Mahomes, who's a trailblazer. And Jordan Love has caught caught onto the new trend but i also like the fact that josh allen refuses to go with the trends yeah because he's a man's man he's a man of principles he walks alone and he'll stand by himself because he believes in it yeah but yeah that's a man of conviction jordan loves i mean he's he fills up the stat sheet he throws picks throws touchdowns i So how would you power rank the NFC North right now in terms of confidence to go deep in the playoffs? I am very – I'll be very unbiased.
I think the Bears have the longest shot. I'm not fooling myself.
I would say Lions number one. Yeah.
and then i would say i think i'm gonna say the packers number two right isn't it crazy the vikings number three but the thing is i wouldn't be shocked if the packers played against the vikings in the playoffs and knocked them out barely but i'm just saying it's crazy that the vikings were five and oh going into this week and the nfc NFC North is so good that I would rank them third in terms of confidence to make a deep run. But still, could they make the NFC Championship game? Absolutely.
Yeah. But it would probably be against the Lions.
Against the Lions. Or the Packers.
I think the Lions would beat them. Whichever team has home field in the NFC Championship game, if there's two NFC North teams playing each other, that's the team i'm going to go with the packers defense is very good they i mean they were all over cj stroud all afternoon this is why you should tell coaches to fuck off when uh they tell you that it takes several years to turn a team around yeah uh the defense just went from being just absolute garbage over the last couple seasons to being very very good now yeah no, Jeff Halfley has got them humming.
And Romeo Dobbs also, it feels like they figured that out because he had two catches, I think, on the field goal drive to end the game that were huge, including one that I still don't know if he caught or fumbled or both. Yeah, no one knows.
No one knows. It's impossible to tell.
I also don't know if that was a challenge. D'Amico Ryans, here's a little tip, and if we have him back on, we did love having him on, and I think he is a good coach.
In a tight game, you can never go home with two timeouts in your back pocket because that's such an easy way for idiots like us to be like, bro, two timeouts in your back pocket. Even though at the end we were trying to get them to bleed more to the clock so you weren't going to use your time but then when the packers have the ball try to use maybe a timeout so that you get a shot back at the very least maybe take a timeout so you can take a look at what they're doing on just anything just slow it down for a second i do like they used one timeout to ice the icing the icing at the end yeah uh also we should have mentioned josh jacobs congratulations he touchdown pass.
He did. Shocking that he hasn't done that yet.
211 receptions, 1,556 yards before he caught his first touchdown pass. And then the other running back touchdown story, Joe Mixon.
Joe Mixon scores a touchdown, jumps into the stands, does a Lambeau leap in the end zone. The fan, I thought, was completely within his rights to push him back, right? Yeah, well, Packers fans are scumbags.
We all know that. Well, that fan's probably an owner, so that's technically kind of his stadium.
True. So you can keep a man out of your house if you want to.
He shoved him back. That fan then got ejected from the game.
He did? I don't like that. And if anything he should get a promotion move down one row yeah you're you're defending the wall literally yes this is your job literally as a fan i know every team think you they score at lambeau field they want to do the lambeau leap it you have to be prepared that you're entering a hostile crowd at that situation you can't you can't expect packers fans to welcome you Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I stand with that fan. He's a scumbag.
Yeah, but I stand with him. He was within his rights to do so.
Yeah, but he's still a scumbag. That's fair.
But he was doing his job, literally. Okay, next up.
Bengals 21, Browns 14. Big story, obviously, from this game is Deshaun Watson tore his Achilles hate to see it listen you never root for injuries and I say I said you never root for it yeah you never root for injuries well don't point at me you you never you never you never root for injuries and that's pretty much what I have to say about yeah Sean the only thing is why was Jameameis not starting today? Was he not, or excuse me, why was Jameis Winston the emergency quarterback today? I don't know.
He's been the backup every game this season. The fans have started to chant for Jameis.
There was a lot of speculation that maybe Stefanski was told put Jameis as the emergency so that fans can't ask him to get into the game. Yeah.
So he was the emergency third-string quarterback today. Who then got in.
And then got in because there was then an injury to DTR's finger or thumb. So he might be out too.
Yeah. It was the first time since 2008 that a team had three different players attempt 10 or more pass attempts.
That's pretty wild. It was the Chiefs in 2008.
Do you think you can name one of the three quarterbacks? On the Chiefs in 2008, Brody Croyle. Yes.
Okay. I remember that game.
Brody Croyle, Matt Castle? No. It's Brody Croyle, Damon Huard, and TT.
Tyler Thigpen? Yes. Let's go.
But yeah, Deshaun Watson. The entire fans, I think there was a report from Ben Baby, our friend Ben Baby.
They cheered when he went down. I got no problem with that.
We had a weird – it was basically Deshaun Watson goes down. Everyone – I didn't cheer for it but i was i definitely sat there being like well yeah i mean why yeah he's a bad guy i don't i'm not gonna be like oh boohoo deshaun watson uh but then we had the reaction the reaction uh chase daniel came tried to tried to jump in front of it being like why would anyone i feel really bad for Deshaun Watson.
It's sick that people are happy about this.

I don't have any problem with people being happy about it either.

They might have been happier because they're getting one step closer to Jameis.

Yeah, to Jameis.

Also, Miles Garrett, maybe not the best quote.

He said after the game, Deshaun Watson has been a model citizen through college

and most of the pros.

That most of really is covering a lot of things up. Doing a of work right there and but technically he might be right like if you look at from a mathematical perspective the percentage of time that deshaun watson was not sexually assaulting people to the amount of time that he was i'd say it's probably at least 67 he's got his hands clean yeah like if deshaun watson has been in the nfl for call it i don't know i don't know how many days let's say 2 000 days i mean he probably i don't know how many massages if it's 200 massages that would mean that 90 of the time he was in the nfl most of the time but they don't want to talk about that big cat they don't want to talk about all the days that you weren't raping somebody.
Yeah. So that was a weird quote from Myles Garrett.
Either way, it feels like the Browns, if they can start Jameis, which they should, now they're going to have fun. Yeah.
It'll be a fun season. I don't know if you were going to.
You were probably going to start Jameis, right? Even if DTR was healthy? I think so. I'm so confused by the Jameis emergency quarterback.
It would be such a weird thing for Stefanski to have to explain. How come your third string quarterback is now starting? What are you going to say? Like he had a great week of practice, so I promoted him? I don't know.
DTR's not good. And I, seems like a nice guy, but, and I liked watching him at UCLA.
He's not good. Jameis, he, he was in for like a half a quarter through a touchdown pass.
Yeah. And a two point conversion.
Yeah. He's fun.
He's fun. And heameis, he was in for like a half a quarter through a touchdown pass.

Yeah.

And a two-point conversion.

Yeah.

He's fun.

He's good.

And he had awesome glasses on after the game.

He did.

And he said all the right things.

Actually, I understand why the Browns would say that.

Because if you're a Cleveland Browns player, you step on that field every weekend.

There's a chance that you could get injured.

And you know that it sucks to get injured. So you don't want to see your own fans cheering for one of your teammates to get injured.

I'm not mad at the Browns for saying that either.

Yeah, you're a teammate of john watson i understand you trying to come to his defense yeah but you also have to understand where the fans are coming from and the fans have every right to be like fuck this guy did johnny fans have anything to say oh i don't know he did i kind of want to hear fanta's take on this do you i because i feel like phantom might join in chastising the browns fans oh because he's stirring the pot of misery oh this is a good title what's the noise that makes me stir that pot stirring the pot of misery misery tough Really tough, brutal weekend to be a Cleveland sports fan.

We've got scars.

They run deep.

And it's hard for anybody to really empathize.

We fight on.

It's the only way the Cleveland sports fans know how to go about it.

From 11-6 to 1-6. 11-6 to 1-6.
And on this day, you allowed, in your house, rivalry game, first division game of the season, the opposing team, which hadn't won in that stadium for years, to run the opening kickoff back for a touchdown. And at that point, you felt like the game was over.

And we went through the formality for the next four quarters, but it was.

You hate to see anybody get hurt.

And for Deshaun Watson, that's horrible.

And you wish him the best in his recovery.

Oh, that was nice.

As for the football team, the pre-snap penalties in Week 7 are unacceptable and they fall on the coach. Now, I have been pro Kevin Stefanski, right? I like Kevin, but whatever this scheme is, there is none.
It makes no sense. It's Week 7.
You have multiple. We're not talking one or two.
We're talking three, four, five. Illegal shift.
Illegal motion. Illegal this.
We're making up new penalties. New flags.
Gotta stop. That can't continue.
This is professional football. Now, you're probably trying to lose.
You're one and six. You need to draft a quarterback.
Let's call it what it is. You've got a tank.
It's in the best interest of your organization to continue to lose. The saddest part about this is I feel bad for Nick Chubb, who made his way back to play hard.
I feel bad for Miles Garrett. Outside of that, I don't feel too bad for too many other guys, but I feel bad for the stars of this team.
A playoff team a year ago, they now sit in this pit of misery. Up next, the Ravens.
I gotta find me a pumpkin patch. Oh no! Johnny.
Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. Why is he trying to find a pumpkin patch? I don't know, just from it all yeah take a walk it was awesome that Nick Chubb scored Nick Chubb is an awesome dude it's cool that he scored yeah uh vibes are back with Nick Chubb but yeah Sean Watson just and it is funny we were saying in the gambling cave that we watching sports gives the dumbest knowledge about injuries.
Where we saw it and we all were like instantly, yep, that's an Achilles. Achilles because you see how the calf muscle kind of contracted there.
Basically, Kevin Durant took us all to medical school when his Achilles popped against the Raptors in the NBA finals. Yeah, and we all felt like Drake.
Yeah. Oh, no.
Oh, no on uh the bengals are quietly putting together now let me ask you this question actually let me pose it this way or is the bengals defense back or did they play daniel jones and deshaun watson i think it so i think they played daniel jones and deshaun watson but i think now they believe that they can play well so it doesn't matter they also have done well against the run which you can that's not Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson, but I think now they believe that they can play well, so it doesn't matter. They also have done well against the run, which that's not Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson as much, although you can game plan knowing those guys are the quarterbacks.
But yeah, if you're a Bengals fan, the fix is the last two weeks. They've held both teams to under 14 points.
If the Bengals hold everyone to under 14 points for the rest of the season, they're going to win the Super Bowl. So just keep doing that and keep maybe playing Deshaun Watson and Daniel Jones.
I think that if it was just one week, they could revert back to being the Bengals that we saw earlier on defense. But for some dumb reason when I see it two weekends around, I'm like, okay, now it's a trend.
Now I believe in them. If they just keep putting together weeks like this next week, ooh, they play the Eagles.
That's going to be a test. That'll be a test.
That will be a find out if it was Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson or if the Bengals defense is back. Both of those teams.
You can ask the same question, by the way. What? You can find out if it's Daniel.
Oh, yeah. True.
That's because you guys just played Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones. So we're going to find out if any of this.
This would be great if you guys played like a 10 10 tie and we're like maybe they're they're just better than those two teams jalen hurts likes a lot throw a lot of picks yeah jamar chase is uh not in the past two weeks that's true jamar chase's alan iverson step over was badass yeah that was nasty that was that was a nasty little celebration the step over i'm all in favor of it i'm sure that roger Goodell is going to think about maybe making that a penalty next year. Yeah.
It should not be. The stepover is great when you can pull it off.
And then it's on the other guy. I also think that the other guy, if you get stepped over, you should be allowed to punch him right in the nuts during the stepover.
Or pants him. Or pants him.
And that's fine, too. A good pantsing.
But it's the best move that you can do. It's just so you ever do it to your pet step over yeah it's so awesome they look at you you get that same vibe from

you're like i just dominated you step over uh let's play whose line is anyway hank draft kings

uh sportsbook you you have your phone this week yep so you're you've given up the no phone

i thought we're doing boomer so i had it ready oh okay uh eagles bengals eagles app bengals

Thank you. phone.
I thought we were doing boomers, so I had it ready. Oh, okay.
Eagles-Bengals. Eagles at Bengals? Eagles at Bengals.
Eagles at Bengals. Did they just play Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, or are they good bowl? I'm going to say Bengals minus two and a half.
Let's just talk it out real quick. The Bengals beat the Browns better than the Eagles did, but the Eagles beat the Giants better than the Bengals did.
Wait, and they're both more recent? Oh, man. Yeah.
I'm going to say, would you say Bengals minus two and a half? I'll say Bengals minus one and a half. Bengals minus two.
Okay. We split it.
Love that. That feels good.
We know ball. That was good analysis.
We know ball big time. This is going to be fun to figure it out.
We're going to get a great answer. I do sympathize with what Johnny Fant has said about walking into the stadium like the opening kickoff return for a touchdown oh there's nothing worse as a fan than walking into the stadium before you even see the green of the grass maybe you're like a couple minutes late for kickoff and you sit down at your seat and you're already losing by a touchdown yeah that's that's a sign your day is not even you don't even have a chance for your day to be good right at that point yeah uh it's absolutely true the dynamic air right out of it yeah air right out of the the entire building do you see what trump said about the kickoff what he said took a direct shot at our boy sam schwarzstein oh no he said it's ugly it's called sam's kickoff ugly yeah although we're getting more kickoff we're getting more kickoff he's talking the kickoffs that aren't returned.
He thinks it's ugly. I agree with that.
But the whole point was to get more kickoff return touchdowns. I agree 100%.
I think that when it's kicked out of bounds for a touchback, it's very ugly. It's a very ugly play.
Yeah. But when it's returned for a touchdown, it's one of the most beautiful plays in sports.
Yeah, the kickoff went from a solid 7 to now a 5 in some light and a ten in some other light. Yeah, when it smiles more, then it's really, really attractive.
When it wears something really fancy, kickoff looks great. Looks great.
Damn, check out that chick. Yeah.
Look at that chick. Look at that chick.
Shout out to the guys at the IU college football show who had a sign that said, Titty fucking is overrated. Max was getting a lot of support from the cave when you stepped out, Big Cat.
I was trying to hold... About titty fucking? Yeah, about titty fucking.
Oh, PFT also had an all-time terrible take. What was it? I don't know if it...
You can't count that as a take. Yes, it was.
What was the take? Jaden Daniels came out in a commander's hoodie.

You always talk about Jaden Daniels on this podcast.

A commander's hoodie and a commander's sweatpants.

And Che goes, all PFTs in street clothes.

And PFT had the hardest stance that they weren't street clothes

because it was team-issued gear.

But that's just a saying.

It was a jumpsuit, right? So it was like the track suit that you wear on the sidelines like all the training staff all that i've always said that street clothes is if you're wearing clothes that you would wear on this like to the game and then espn tweeted like an hour later yeah daniels is on the street clothes yeah street clothes to me is like you're wearing a blazer or a turtleneck. No, it's the same.
Or a sweatshirt and jeans. When you come back out, you're in street clothes.
I always thought that it was like, yeah, I know the saying, but when they say this guy's in street clothes watching the game, in the NBA, there's always a guy on the bench, and he's wearing a shirt and normal pants. But if a guy gets injured and comes back, they'll say street clothes, and he'll usually be wearing sweatpants.
I don't know. Well, yeah, sweatpants, but not the team issued.
I don't know why I'm still arguing about this, even though I've been proven wrong. I'm defending my take that I know is wrong because there's something deep down that I want it to be true.
Also, you of all people should say that those are street clothes. Well, no, that point got brought up, too.
It's like PFT wears. You wear those.
He gets dressed like he's six years old every day. I said said again, that's a valid point.
That's a valid point. Those are your street clothes.
The haters, honestly, they get things right from time to time, and they nailed that one. Who was saying Titty Fuckin' is overrated in the cave? Everyone.
Everyone. Everyone was.
Everyone, except for me. Nicky Smokes.
Well, Nicky Smokes is the king of bad opinions. Yeah, it was really Nicky Smokes and Stephen Shea, which is probably great.
That's awesome. That makes me feel very confident.
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I will try to be nicer about Anthony Richardson for a second. He used his legs well.
Yeah, but he also refuses to slide. I don't think they've even had the conversation with him about sliding.
Yeah, yeah. He's going to run, and it's going to be electric when he does, and then he's going to use his face mask to try to stiff arm a defensive back and but he made here's another positive thing he made it through the game yep and they won the game so that's good for a young qb's confidence uh but the throwing thing is still very tough it is tough you won the game but you, but you also kind of beat Tim Boyle.
Yeah. So Tim Boyle being the backup, nice guy.
Nice guy. Very nice guy.
Nice guy. Much as good as he is as a quarterback, he's an even better human being.
I'll say this about Tim Boyle, and I don't know him, but I feel like he probably would prefer not to have to play. If you were third string quarterback not named james would you want to play no i i think that like so you can't be critical of tim boyle because if you hit tim boyle with true serum he'd be like dude i don't want to get in either and how do you even evaluate this game if you're a dolphins fan you have tim boyle closing it out tyler huntley looked good on the first drive i guess but.
And they ran the ball until they fumbled everywhere and Mostert and Ingold fumbled. You can't be mad at Tim Boyle, right? No.
Like I'm saying, Tim Boyle is probably sitting there like, dude, I don't want to play. I have a very nice life as what was the third string quarterback then became the backup quarterback.
It would be so much better if I could just live my life, have an time being in nfl locker room catching a paycheck uh i can walk away and be like hey i played in the nfl which still it's like when we have rolovsky on tim boyle is still at 0.0001 of football players ever and tim boyle is probably the first one to be like god damn it tim boyle's in tim boyle sucks yeah like he doesn't want to play he feels just like you do yeah he's he's not he's not being God damn it, Tim Boyle's in? Tim Boyle sucks. Yeah, like he doesn't want to play.
He feels just like you do.

Yeah, he's not being like, hey, it's Tim Boyle time.

Call my number.

I want to get in there.

I want to fucking TB.

Did he change his number?

He was TB12.

Yeah, he's TB14 now.

He's TB14 now.

Now, if you're a Colts fan, enjoy the win.

You guys won a football game.

Hard to do in the NFL, right?

You're in the mix.

You're definitely in the mix. Your defense looked pretty good today, I guess.
You can say it didn't fuck up too badly today. No, but it's Tim Boyle.
It's Tim Boyle, but you didn't ruin it. No.
You made Tim Boyle look like Tim Boyle, which is all you can hope for. Yeah.
So I don't want to rain on your parade, but there was a sad stat that came out after the game comparing Anthony Richardson with Joe Flacco this season. Oh, no.
Five games for Anthony Richardson, three for Joe Flacco.

Passing yards, 783 for Anthony Richardson, 716 for Joe.

Pass touchdowns, three for Anthony Richardson,

seven for Joe Flacco.

Interceptions, six for Anthony Richardson,

one for Joe Flacco.

Completion percentage, 48.5 for Anthony Richardson, 65.7 for Joe Flacco completion percentage 48.5 for Anthony Richardson 65.7 for Joe Flacco yeah Joe Flacco did say I think this week that Anthony Richardson should play because that's the only way he's going to if he ever gets better it's not going to happen on the sidelines which Joe Flacco is a great guy we already knew uh and again i don't want to beat up they won the game so you have to like a win's a win maybe this gives him confidence being like find a way to win these games but uh it's everything that i've thought before is the throwing the ball is very important for a quarterback and he doesn't do it very well that to me to me, is how you know that Joe Flacco is the true quarterback

of this team.

Yeah.

When he's saying, you should play the guy that's not as good as me

so that he can get better and help the team be better.

That's a guy that can make your team better.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It will be interesting to see if they tread water and they're in a spot.

Because right now they're at the seventh seed if the playoffs started today.

If they tread water and it's like hey uh maybe we

should play joe flacco because they play the texans and the vikings coming up and those are pretty good defenses so that might not go well and then the bills and the jet oh shit the colts go texans vikings bills jets lions that's not gonna be easy no that might not help anthony richardson's progress. Texans, Vikings,

Bills,

Jets, Lions.

That's not a good stretch. That's not a great stretch for AR-15.
The Colts also had a little mishap before the game. Jim Irsay, we're big fans of his on this podcast.
Yes, huge. His only job, I think, during game days is to determine whether or not the roof is going to be open or closed.
We all stay glued to our smartphones on Thursdays when he makes that announcement. That's all I can think about.
If the roof is going to be open or if the window is going to be open. He said it was going to be a roof open day, which is huge.
The roof, it's a big factor in the Colts' recent success. When it's roof open games, they tend to wipe the floor of their opponents.
The roof didn't open today. Oh, no.
There malfunction with the roof i don't know what this means going forward this is probably the last roof open game that you can have on the season and the stadium let him down today oh no and so something to keep your eye on okay so we got him the roof might be malfunctioned but also the roof's fighting back maybe but also this might give jim mercy just a project to work on so he's not going to be doing any other bad stuff. He's just going to be focused on fixing the roof.
The roof. So that might be a good thing now.
Don't go up on the roof, Jim. Yeah.
Well, he might. Yeah, but that would be dangerous.
Yeah. Don't do it.
All right. Eagles 28, Giants 3.
Max, the Saquon revenge game worked out perfectly, 176 yards, a touchdown.

The Saquon Barkley had 176 yards, and the New York Giants offense had 119 total yards.

If you're trying to script up revenge games, that really can't go better than that.

Yeah, yeah. He's keeping Mr.
Mara mr mara up at night yeah so sleep over and he was booed he was booed so the no boo was wrong no that was not what we were debating you said whether eagles fans would boo oh yeah yeah well i i think eagles fans probably did boo because like i I'm consistent. They just heard a boo and they joined in.
Disagree. He also was pretty shaken up.
He said that as he was walking in, he saw Giants fans burning his jersey in the parking lot, and he said he was like, I've never seen that before with my own eyes, and I hope I never see it i mean that's was what that seems a little dramatic yeah it does it seems like giants fans was that serious it feels like giants fans were trying like laughing about it oh yeah okay all right so he was joking yeah it feels like giants fans were trying to take back some of the narrative in the saquon thing and turn this hatred that they have or the disappointment they have in their own franchise into just hating Saquon instead. And just pointing out and be like, fuck that guy.
So Jason Kelsey had a tweet that everyone was responding to, and he said, for the life of me, I don't understand why Giants fans hate Saquon for what happened and not the Giants organization for the fact he's an eagle. They have absolutely no one to blame other than the Giants' ownership and management decisions for why he's no longer a Giant.
True. But fans don't – if the Maras, Mr.
Mara, sorry, came out in a jersey, he would be booed. He doesn't come out in a jersey.
The only outlet they have to boo the Maras in the organization is via Saquon. So I completely understand why some Giants fans were booing Saquon Barkley.
That's their outlet. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They're displacing their frustration. And they're like, we see Saquon.
Maybe they weren't booing Saquon. Maybe they were booing what Saquon represents.
Yeah, anyone on the Eagles deserves to be booed. Yeah, they hate the Eagles.
Yeah. So it makes perfect sense.
They might have been booing Saquon because he represents the fact that the ownership let him go. So that's how they're booing him.
Yeah. And I like Jason Kelsey.
We're going to have him on at some point. Right, Max? Yeah.
You're the booker. You can book it.
I'm not the booker. But you could help book it.
Either way, Jason Kelsey is, I'll say, a friend of the show because we've met him a couple times. This is one of those moments where he has been on the show way back in the day.
This is one of those moments where a guy was, he doesn't fully understand the fans' perspective, and it's no fault of his. He doesn't understand that fans just have to boo.
You have to let fans boo. Otherwise, it's like the erectile dysfunction commercials.
If you don't boo for multiple weeks, you should see a doctor. Yeah, the boozer lose it.
Yeah, right. He did also go on to say in the tweet, obviously understand their hate of the Eagles and desire for him not to.
Yeah, so he gets it. Yeah, he gets it.
But I was not surprised that some fans booed. I just know that Saquon just dominated them today.

Dominated.

And you knew what was going to happen, too.

Yeah.

He was stepped into the Boston Scott role very nicely today.

Yeah.

And the Eagles' defense looked good.

They sacked Daniel Jones eight times.

Yeah.

Bryce Huff even got a couple.

Bryce Huff got one.

Jalen Carter had two.

N'Kobe Dean had two. The Giants' offensive line sucks, especially now that Andrew Thomas is out.
And how are we feeling state of the Eagles now? It felt good to get a blowout win. We haven't seen one of those in a really long time.
It was nice to watch football without any stress. We were sitting next to each other.
We both had Eagles minus three. It was basically over.
Well, they still didn't score a point in the first quarter, which is insane that they haven't scored a point in the first quarter all year, and they're four and two. That's crazy.
But it was still nice to just have a pretty stress-free Sunday. Yeah.
Sirianni keeps his job. Yeah.
Good day for Sirianni. Oh, good.
Good day for Sirianni. We need to have just a tracker.

He's like the smoke coming out of the Vatican.

Sirianni gets to keep his job one more week.

Yeah, no, and I get to be fluid with my thoughts on Sirianni.

100%.

I want that on the record.

Yes.

Does he get any credit for this?

Yeah, for sure.

I also want to say Quinian Mitchell is amazing.

Okay.

Put it on the record.

He's our rookie corner. Like, he should be in the conversation.
Toledo. Toledo.
Toledo. He's so good.
He had neighbors locked up all day. Yeah.
So, everything's good right now. Yeah, no.
Today was good. Today was a good day.
You beat a bad team soundly, which that still counts. And it makes you feel good because we've been playing bad teams and not beating them soundly.
Yes. So it's good when you do see that.
Yeah. And it's also awesome when your star running back goes home and just absolutely dominates his former team.
Did you take any extra pleasure knowing that there's probably a significant amount of Mets fans that are also Giants fans? Yes. Although it's mostly Mets fans.
I know it's Mets, Jets, but I'm assuming that there's still a lot. No, there's both.
Yeah. I feel like they all flip-flop.
It was more so like we – but it doesn't really mean – they still have the last laugh. They beat us in the NBA.
They beat us in MLB. We had a regular season win against the fucking Giants, who fucking suck.
The Giants just feel like they have been in disaster franchise mode for an extended period of time now. It's like at the end of Eli's career moving forward.
Yeah, and it's very bizarre because you have two Super Bowls in the last whatever it is, 16, 16 17 years so you can't be like oh they are a total dumpster fire but since the super bowls they are a dumpster fire and a truly atrocious organization i also their defense is going to win them a couple more games dexter lawrence is a monster and so is brian burns yeah their Their D line is very good. I don't think that they're going to be like a I think that they should be trying to lose more than they are.
Them going out and spending all the capital to get Brian Burns is crazy to me. Why did they do that? Daniel Jones is, I mean, he was under duress the entire game.
But, yeah, he's not the quarterback going forward. I think we've all agreed on that, right? Like, he's not going to be.
They need to figure something out. Yeah, they got to figure something out.
Even Dable did a Drew Lock spark today. Yep.
Spark. He said spark.
That's what I'm saying. I think that

at the end of the season, you have to move

on from Jones, but I hope they keep Dable.

And I'm not saying that as a commander. I'm saying

that as a fan of ball.

As a fan of high quality football and

the right people being in the right positions.

You know I love that. And I think that

Brian Dable is... He should

stick around. Don't put all this on him.
Yeah.

Agreed. Agreed.
Alright, so Max, feeling good. Four and two, big game against the Bengals.
Huge game against the Bengals. Huge game against the Bengals.
Yeah, big game against the Bengals. The only thing to say.
But it feels like you're backing on the season a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
Four and two is four and two. It's a good record.
Well put. And we just got to go into Cincinnati next week, beat the Bengals 5-2, and then...
And Jalen Hurts has not thrown an interception in the last two games. Big.
Is that good? Huge. Nor fumble.
That might be bad. He's not taking the risk that he should.
Just think about it that way. There were times I was getting mad at Jalen today in the first half, and then he threw that deep ball to A.J.
Brown, which was just right on the money. Yeah.
Fourth down, that just saved the season. I think the Eagles roster is still good.
You guys were just very, very injured. And having both A.J.
Brown out and Devontae out, that's huge. And Lane Johnson.
And Lane Johnson, yes. Those are probably the three out of the four guys that you could stand to lose the least on offense.
Yeah, no, it's crazy. Like all of the fire the coach, like panic of the Eagles this season.
Yeah, where is that coming from? No, no, like I'm saying that in myself. Yeah, yeah.
Okay, next game, Bills 34, Titans 10. Josh Allen's 100th start in the NFL.
Congrats, Sam. He's got 68 wins.
He's the sixth most through. That's the sixth most wins through 100 starts all time.
And he is third all time for most total touchdowns through 100 starts. Aaron Rodgers, 241.
Patrick Mahomes, 237. Josh Allen, 236.
Pretty good company. It's great company and no interceptions this season.
So he's having maybe his best season taking care of the ball. The bad Josh isn't around as much.
Yeah, and this was a weird game because you thought it was maybe a very sleepy spot for the Bills. They were down 10-0.
The offense looked bad. Defense didn't look good.
And then they just were like, oh, yeah, we're the Bills. We're going to throttle them.
34 unanswered. I saw a stat that the Titans had ran 11 plays in the third quarter for 11 total yards.
That's gross. So they just fucked them up on both sides of the ball.
And Amari Cooper got going. He did.
Yeah. Scored a touchdown.
What was the stat like after Deshaun Watson got taken out of the game? He all of a sudden got good at football during his game. Yeah.
It's like he knew. Yeah.
He knew that something, the bad man's gone. Yeah.
He's not going to hurt you anymore. Yeah.
And he just went off. Yeah.
So it's nice to see Amari Cooper playing well. Yeah.
It is because I'm sure that he's dealt with some bullshit in his career. And yeah, Josh, I think Josh Allen is maybe having his best season ever.
He's playing lights out. And Keon Coleman looks like a real dude now, too.
Yeah. He had a big, big catch, 125 yards.
So their offense, you know, they still have to. There still was that two game blip on, you know, the Ravens and Texans back to back.
But we'll see. When is their next big, big game? But they didn't play that bad against the Texans.
No, that was a winnable game. Josh wasn't very good in that game, but he also was concussed.
We're not – people are going to say that was being glazing, whatever. Well, when I say that Josh is having his best season, I'm saying that for years all everyone says, like if you can just get Josh to limit the turnover plays, blah, blah, blah.
That's what he's doing. That's what he's doing right now.
So you can either like it when he just goes hog wild and does crazy shit all the time and throws a lot of interceptable balls, or he can like what he's doing right now. Do you think – so Will Levis has a shoulder injury.
Mason Rudolph started. I was actually nervous, I thought, because I bet the Bills, and then I was like, oh, shit, Mason Rudolph's going to play this might be a competent titans team titans are just bad yeah bad vibes real bad vibes with the titans and andre hopkins he had one target this week i think he had six yards okay he's got to be gone right you got to trade they got to be they're they're doing whatever the quiet firing of them is they're just yeah you can go out there but please for the of God, don't get hurt because we want to help the Chiefs win another Super Bowl this year.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, Calvin Ridley, too. Yeah.
He probably is going to get traded. Maybe he won't get, I don't know.
Titans should probably give up a little bit. They have kind of given up, but they should officially give up.
This is what you get when you fire Vrabes. Yeah.
Look at it. We like Brian Callahanahan he's been dealt not a great hand yeah a full rebuild uh but yeah the the bills this was this was one of those games where i was like the bills should kill the titans and they ended up killing the titans so it feels good to at least know a little bit of ball when this game it was like the you could always say the titans they'll at least beat you up a little bit physically on defense yeah and this And this one was like, even the defense, they've had enough.
Yeah. Maybe the defense has had enough of watching the Titans offense.
Yeah. And they got just as sick of it as we have.
Yeah. No moss.
Yeah. No moss.
Okay. Last one for the early slate.
Seahawks 34, Falcons 14. This was our Kirk Cousins off day game.
I think I said it in the first quarter. He threw a couple passes that were just not accurate, and I was like, ooh, he doesn't look sharp today.
And they did actually, the second half, it felt like the Falcons were going to be back in the game as they marched down the field, and then the wheels just came off with the fumble, two picks, just the Falcons, and they burned a great B. John Robinson day.
Yeah, what did I tell you about the Seahawks' defense? Yeah. I feel like they weren't far away.
They gave up a decent amount of yards, but they started taking the ball away, which can change anything. Yeah, this was a trap game for Kirk.
This is when he said, walk in the trap, take over your trap. Did anybody tell Kirk Cousins that it's a home game? Well, no, he said that about the panthers okay i thought he was talking about this

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Gino also is fun when he has time to throw. That touchdown pass to DK at the end of the first half.
Is DK okay, by the way? Did he get carted off? I can never know when he gets carted off if he's just going to take a shit or not. I don't know if he got carted off.
I think I saw an image of him on a cart. I did not see that part.
I did see DK with one of the best blocks of the week where he just used one arm, and he stiff-armed a guy with one arm and just stood there, like just standing perfectly still. Yeah.
Like a security guard. He was a little boy in him.
Yeah, keeping the cornerback away, trying to make a tackle. DK just stands there upright with one arm.
It's just like, no, no gonna tackle him yeah so they're saying sorry too many too many dudes in here maybe a mcl strain so yeah he got carded off that's not good that's not we're optimistic at this point doesn't look too bad that's good mike mcdonald said okay not looking too bad yeah the seahawks are fun though they have so many guys they're yeah they're wide receivers

and they're uh Bobo it's also just fun to say Bobo Kenneth Walker uh but yeah this was another one where I know that I had a terrible week but I saw this one coming whereas the Falcons were riding a little too high you know they won a couple big games and beat up on the Panthers and the Seahawks this was hungry dogs to run faster Hank this Seahawks needed this win very bad. I think these are two very similar

teams. Yeah.

Probably not going to go deep, deep. Could win a wild card game.
Could give someone some fits in the divisional round. Unless they play a team from the NFC North.
Yeah, but they could maybe be up in the divisional round. But they could also...
That's their ceiling. They could host a divisional round game against a wildcard team from the NFC North that would beat the fuck out of them.
That would take over their track. Yeah, they could easily win their respective divisions.
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Okay, afternoon games.

Stinkers.

Yep.

Stinkers, but we've got to start PFT.

Your commander's 40, Panther's 7.

Are you – where are we at?

How are we feeling?

Well, so Jaden's mom tweeted out, he's fine.

Okay, that's good.

Jaden's mom – I'm going to Jaden's mom for all ofayden news i've i subscribed to her x.com post about it x.com the everything app it's all happening on x so i'm following her on there and then i also had to follow her on instagram too just in case you broke news there smart smart so i'm all over that uh i just i feel like the panthers really wasted the uh the bryce young doing the scout team impression of j Jaden Daniels because Jaden Daniels was out after one play. Yes.
So this game was over. They weren't prepared for Marcus Mariota.
Marcus Mariota. They don't have anybody on the roster that can emulate him as well as Jaden.
I hope he's okay. I don't want to say it was boring because it was an ass-kicking, and our offense looked good without Jaden.
It's fun to play the Panthers. People are asking if Jaden Daniels is a system quarterback.
If he is, then I fucking love this system. Yeah.
You just got to keep Cliff Kingsbury. We got to keep Cliff, yeah.
But a good performance by the defense today. Defense played really, really well.
Again, we played the Panthers, but the Panthers' offense hasn't always been that bad this season. They've had a couple good games here and there so so I have a question for you about the Marcus Mariota thing because I know that if if if that had happened to me and tight in uh Tyson Bajan came in and looked awesome my mentions would just be flooded with people being like Caleb Williams actually sucks yep uh anyone could do it there's enough body is that was that happening to you uh I chose to not look at my mentions.
Smart. That's very body of evidence.
Was that happening to you? I chose

to not look at my mentions. Smart.

That's very smart. But the time that I did

I saw, and I saw you guys getting

tagged in a lot, is Jaden Daniels a

system quarterback? Maybe just mute the word system

for a couple days. I might mute system.

Are the commanders better without

Jaden Daniels? You knew that

was coming because that's just how the

internet has to work. Well, I also tweeted out that not getting to watch jayden makes me want to memes myself and then i got reported to uh actually twitter reached excuse me x reached out to me with a safety notification we're writing to you because a concerned individual has recently alerted to us to potentially suicidal or self-harming comments posted on your account how do they know what memes myself even means They're listeners it's not just self-harm it's also blowing up the entire nfl office yeah that's true but there's a lot but i think it's it's a rib of some sort he has a rib confirmed i will give jayden daniels one of my ribs i volunteer as tribute you can remove one of my ribs put it in jayden's stern, and then just sew him up, and hopefully he'll be fine.

But it could be worse.

It could be worse.

When he went out at first, I was very concerned because I've seen this movie before with the quarterback,

but I don't think that it's anything super long-term.

So do you think he's going to play next week?

I think he could have come back and played today.

Really?

We need him to play next week.

Yeah, no, it'll suck if he doesn't play next week.

Yes, I hope that he plays next week if he's healthy i'm i'm concerned about his long-term health right now yeah i he's got to play next week though for america for this show for this show and for specifically for this show and the ratings of this show and we need just this show we need that yeah uh but yeah i think our defense played running game looked good again. Again, we played the Panthers.
I mean, the Panthers are so – they've reached levels that are – because we talked about it on Friday, but Andy Dalton, he gave them that one-game bump. That's way long gone.
I don't know why they don't just play Bryce Young anymore. Bryce Young could easily throw a pick six and another pick to put him in a big hole and then the game be over in the first quarter.
He could have done that. Yeah, he could have.
So Andy Dalton had 93 yards, two interceptions, no touchdowns. Well, he threw a touchdown to you guys.
Threw a touchdown to us. Pick six right off the bat was really nice.
I truly enjoyed that. And also, again, if our defense can somehow learn how to be good, then that's going to be incredible for the season because our defense,

I know for a fact they're not good, but they played really good today.

Yeah.

So I'm happy with that.

Andy Dalton, I feel like putting Bryce Young back in,

I don't know if that really solves anything

or if that's even good for Bryce Young.

But what's the alternative?

Like, you're going to lose anyway.

Yeah.

Andy Dalton, nice guy, recurring guest. Love to have him on when he retires again.
But you're going to lose anyway. What's the downside? It's kind of similar to the Anthony Richardson where it's like, play him and see what you got.
Where are you going to end up that's different than where you are right now? Because if he's bad, you're at the exact same spot. My theory is that the Panthers aren't doing it because they're trying to trade Bryce Young.
He doesn't have trade value. But he could potentially get injured.
I'm sure that there's some team out there that would give up like a sixth or a seventh, maybe a seventh round. But that's not worth – a sixth to me is not worth the whatever you want to call it, 2% chance that Bryce Young, something happens where he just figured it out and he's good.
Would you say that you know Ball better than David Tepper? Because I think you probably do. I do.
So David Tepper might not be thinking about it in that mindset. It's just – it makes no sense to me.
David Tepper probably thinks that he's worth like a third-round pick. The other part of it is like Dave Canales, you just just got hired i don't think you're going to get fired after one year like it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case because you you got hired into a shitty situation so it it would be like i would understand it if it was a guy who was three years into the deal as a head coach and he's like we have to win games in order for me to keep my job andy dalton probably gives us the best chance, even though he's not giving you a chance anymore, then it would make sense.
But none of it makes sense. Dave Canales, like, the best possible outcome for all of this is Bryce Young.
Again, it's probably a 2% chance is somehow good. Every other outcome you've already kind of figured out, and it all sucks.
I would like to formally remove the tag quarterback whisperer from Dave Canales for at least one full season. yeah so like in the off season when the panthers get a new quarterback in you're not allowed to call dave canales a quarterback i'd agree i'd agree you lost that privilege i'd agree you were brought in to whisper to bryce and you did not whisper effectively enough to bryce the panthers have given up 279 points through six games uh or have they played seven they i think they maybe have played seven played seven they played seven that's the most since 1954 through seven weeks that's pretty crazy it's not all on the quarterback now some of those are from short field some of those are from pick sixes like we saw today yeah no they're deep i guess the way i'd sum up the panthers and i'm sorry panthers fans but they also know this uh their defense is atrocious their offense is slightly better than atrocious yeah yeah at times their offense is I'd say serviceable yeah but it's kind of not even anymore it was in that Raiders game yeah they look good in those pants though today the commanders the commander's pants the yellow pants are great wear those every single day that was the best pants matchup of the day.
Easily. Easily the best pants matchup.
Were they both throwback pants? They might have been. I think they were both throwback pants, yeah.
Commanders can't have throwbacks. They should do throwbacks, though.
What do you mean? Oh, you talking to the skins? Skins. Just call them the skins.
Yeah, why not? Call them the skins. But it was Daryl Green Day today.
That was nice. Everyone has skin.
We were talking about it earlier, but we were looking ahead at the schedule. And on Sunday, November 10th, there is a game being played in Munich, Germany, between the Giants and the Panthers.
We're finally even for World War II. That is.
Oh, my God. We got them back, Big Cat.
Wait, are the Panthers? Nope, the the panthers don't have a buy next week i was hoping that they maybe had a buy so we could just be uh away from them for a week just go scrimmage the dolphins yeah this this is and then the saints in two weeks for the panthers that's gonna be a nobody believes in anyone bull that might be derrick carr coming back beating the fuck out of and being like, are the Saints good again? Yeah. It's just a sad state.
I feel bad for Panthers fans. But I'll stand on a soapbox and say, why not start Bryce Young? There's no alternative that is worse than what's happening right now.
Bryce Young can come in and be god-awful, and nothing will change. Right? I think the only thing you have to lose is potentially a low draft pick.
And it's as low as it could be. That's about it.
Yeah. Well, there's also the risk that you trade him for another backup quarterback on a different team, and then you bring that guy in, and all of a sudden he's good on the Panthers with quarterback whisperer Dave Canales.
Dave Canales. And then you ruin your draft pick.
Yeah. So that's an issue.
Or like the Browns should just trade for him right now, although we want Jameis to start. Yeah, we want Jameis.
We want Jameis for sure. Now, I would like to formally open up, if you're a Panthers fan, all aboard the bandwagon.
I'm accepting anybody on the Commander's bandwagon right now. Oh, okay.
That's very nice of you. Yeah, if you want to root for the Commanders, please, the more the merrier.
I'm down for it. The Panthers don't even have the first pick right now.
That's even sadder. Who does? The Patriots.
Yeah. That's good, Hank.
That's really sad. The Panthers don't even have the first pick because their strength of schedule is too good.
Well, you can't screw up the first pick if you're the Panthers then. Yeah.
I guess that's true. Not bad.
I guess that's true. I just want Jaden to be healthy.
I want him to be okay. We're 5-2, which is awesome.
He's got to play. So we're still first place in the division.
Happy about that. I want Jaden to be healthy.
I hope that he plays. I think judging from how he was signaling touchdown on the sidelines, I think he's going to be okay.
The long-term health is important, but more important is him playing next week. To some people.
You have to be in that camp.

Yes, but I don't want him to get hurt more this week.

The last eight months of this show have revolved around Sunday.

That's true.

I don't know what message you can send,

but it's the Super Bowl.

I'll do my best.

I think he's fun.

Memes just said he has to play.

You saw how he put his two hands up, right? It was funny watching you. I mean, it's not funny because I think he's fine he has the memes just said he has to play you saw how he put his two hands up right it was funny watching you i mean it's not funny because i hope he's okay and i did right away i was like i think it's ribs which is way better than any alternative but when he went down uh on that run at the goal line and you were like no he was going down anyway and i was very relatable moment where you just had to moment where your mind was racing.
I was going to just say things until I was proven opposite. That's kind of how I was going to operate.
Che said that he thought maybe he got a wood chip underneath his jersey. Which makes no sense.
I said, Che, how did he get a wood chip? He said, I don't know, maybe he stopped by a playground at some point today. That would have been awesome.
They take him back, they put him in the x-ray machine, and they're like, yeah, you got a wood chip.

Jaden, what the fuck?

You got a wood chip in your jersey.

I'm going to write you a prescription for one bath.

Yeah.

What the hell, man?

Why are you carrying around this wood chip?

That could be dangerous.

But I hope he's okay.

I think he's okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Another stinky game.

Rams-Raiders.

Rams 20, Raiders 15.

Rams are back-ish in the fact that they won off their bye. Antonio Pierce pulled him out on the floor.
And I don't want to bring up Matt LaFleur because he's doing well and his team is good and all that stuff. But he pulled him out on the floor.
Antonio Pierce kicked a field goal, down eight on the nine-yard line with all three timeouts to make a one-score game a one-score game. Yeah, we were watching that in the studio, and I thought I was missing something.
Yeah. So I checked with Big Cat.
I was like, he shouldn't be kicking this, right? And it's absolutely fucking not. You should not be kicking that field goal.
No. It makes zero sense.
But that's also, it's a very interim head coach type move. He does a lot of things.
He is the head coach. Yeah, I know, but he still very much operates as an interim head coach.
The way that he runs the team, it's just all about being more physical. Covering the spread.
Covering the spread. Some points are better than no points.
So Antonio Pierce sees that. He's like, fourth down, I don't know, that's kind of scary.
If I don't convert this, we lose the ball. Might as well kick a meaningless field goal.
And then they got the ball back with like a minute left on their own 10 and Gardner Minshew, who came in because I think Aiden O'Connell broke his thumb, which is just another sad chapter in the saddest QB carousel possible. The Raiders are just so lost.
And the Rams, it wasn't like they lit it up, but I think the Rams are close to getting some of their guys back. I feel like Cooper Cup was almost going to play this week.
So if you're – and guess what? Reminder to everyone out there, oh, we should play Whose Line is it Anyway for Thursday Night Football. We have to take the Rams on Thursday night because they're playing the Vikings who just played the Lions.
that's the new trend. Yep.
So Vikings Rams. Whose line is it? Anyway, brought to you by draft Kings.
Oh, wait, just played. What is this Thursday? Yeah.
This Thursday. Yeah.
Shit. Okay.
Vikings. I'm going to say, are four-point favorites.

That sounds pretty good.

I'll go five and a half.

It is Vikings minus three.

Ooh.

They're on to us.

Yep.

They're on to us.

So we've got to take the Rams.

I don't want to take the Rams, so we have to take the Rams.

Yeah, it's definitely a Rams play.

You have to. I feel like, yeah, the Rams, they're a very well-coached team, obviously.
They always manage to win a couple games that they shouldn't when they're dealing with injuries. And they have to get less injured, right? They can't get any more injured than they have been.
No. And if you look at the Rams season, besides that Cardinals stinker where it's burn the tape and bury the football.
They've been in every game.

They have been, you know, their losses

are all one score losses

and they've been in every game against some

really tough teams. So

maybe the Rams can turn the corner. They are my pinky

team, but maybe they can turn the corner and

they beat the Vikings to get to

three and four. And that division

isn't as locked up as we thought it would be.

Three and four and then going to play the Seahawks.

And then they got the Dolphins and Patriots. So the Rams, uh-oh.
Maybe I'm just talking myself into a team that I know is not good. Are they your don't look now team? No.
They just beat the Raiders. They're my don't look now team because I don't really like watching.
We need like a list of teams that we just have on a board. So whenever a team wins, we just be like, are they back or did they play this team? Yeah.
Raiders and the Panthers. Raiders, Panthers, Browns maybe.
Maybe Browns. Jaguars are – I mean, Jaguars now have two wins.
So that kind of changes my don't look now. You know who might be on that list? Saints.
Saints? Yeah. I think they're on that list.
Saints could be on that list. Yeah, just pause and ask yourself, are they back or do they play this team? Yeah, I feel like both the Jaguars and the Patriots are on that list.
Yes. So we don't know if the Jags are good because they just played.
Yeah, I mean, I know this is all a play on myself because the Bears played half of these teams, which I'm very much aware of and honest about, but I don't care. I don't care.
Took care of business. The Rams are not on that list.
No. The Rams are frisky.
They beat the Rams. Bang.
Boom. Titans are on that list.
Fuck, they beat the Titans. Yeah.
Let's see who else we got on the list. That's the list.
Giants. Giants could be on that list.

We'll find out.

Are the Giants – what?

What's that face, Max?

Giants think.

Yeah, I know.

So it's like, is your team back or do they play this team?

No.

Yeah, I said this.

Yeah.

I've already said that.

Yeah.

All right. So we've – actually, we've all played these teams.

Yeah.

A lot of these teams.

Get them out.

What are the last three commanders wins?

Two commanders wins.

The last two, well, today.

Yeah, Panthers.

And then before that was the Browns.

What are the last two Eagles wins?

That would be the Giants and the Browns.

And the last two Bears wins are the Jaguars and the Panthers.

That's okay.

You play who you play. This is a really bad.
You play who you play. We just broke the fourth wall.
Maybe the NFL just stinks. Maybe the NFL...
Well, guess what? We can't apologize for being four and two. I had a bye week this week.
Four and two, five and two. Five and two.
Five and two. Because imagine if we were a team sitting here that was one and six or two in five.
Yikes.

Memes is two and five is so much worse.

So much worse.

I was about to say five is atrocious.

The Jets might be on that list too.

Yeah.

The Jets could be on that list.

The Steelers.

Are they back?

Is Rusty back or did he play the Jets?

See, we don't know.

We don't know.

Yeah.

This is a man.

We this whole room might be this room.

This room.

No, this room might be.

Well, no, because I would like to address that because

Thank you. This is a, oh, man.
This whole room might be. Are we frauds? This room, no.

This room might be.

Well, no, because I would like to address that

because some people want me to put the Bears on the frauds tag.

I don't think the Bears are going to win the Super Bowl.

People have to understand, that year that we called the Vikings frauds,

that was because people were saying they could go to the Super Bowl.

Yeah, they had a negative point differential.

The Dolphins last year, when they beat up on every bad team and lost to the good teams, but everyone's like, they're still a dangerous team. I was like, no, they're not.
I don't think the Bears are a dangerous team yet in any respect. They have to prove it.
They have to beat really good teams. Well, you guys are a playoff team right now.
Yeah, but they have to beat good teams. I'm fully transparent about that.
I'm just building something. If it's Jaden versus Caleb, does the winner of that get to say, that's going to be, are they good or did they just beat the Bears? Are they good or did they just beat the Commanders? Yeah, did they beat the team that just beat the Browns and the Panthers? Or are they good or did they just beat the team that beat the Jaguars and the Panthers? I do feel like the worst teams.
The Bears are good. Jaden needs to play.
Yes. I want to play.
This is no joke. My day in my entire week is so much better just because of that little, like three hour window where I get to watch Jaden Daniels play football.
That's why I was bummed out today. Yeah.
We kicked the fuck out of the Panthers, which was awesome. Good defense.
Look good. Running game.
Look good. A lot of stuff looked good, but I didn't get that three hour window of watching my favorite athlete do unreal shit on the field while wearing the colors that I like to look at on TV.
I don't really care about that. I care about Jaden Daniels versus Caleb Williams.
Yeah, I don't care that you don't care about that. Hank, what are your thoughts? We need it.
Max brought up a good point, though. Maybe the NFL just sucks.
Like, half of the teams just suck. I don't think half the teams suck.
I think the worst teams, there are a lot of really bad teams right now. All right, hold on.
Let's just list. I'm going to say a team, and you tell me if they suck, okay? Just say good or bad.
Or no. No, tell me if they suck.
Because there's teams that are in the middle. Like, the Bengals, they don't suck.
No, they don't. Yeah, all right.

Or did they just beat the Browns?

No, they haven't beat QB.

Colts don't suck, right?

They don't suck.

Colts suck.

They suck?

Yes.

They're shitty, but they don't suck.

Okay, here we go.

Dolphins suck.

Raiders suck. They suck.

Jets suck.

Jaguars.

There's still time.

The Jaguars suck.

Suck.

Yeah. Suck in the United States.
They suck. The Titans suck.
Jaguars still time. The Jaguars suck suck.
Yeah. Suck in the United States.
They suck. The Titans suck.
Browns suck. Patriots suck.
Okay, that's seven in the AFC. Cowboys suck.
Yeah, I think they suck. They just got smoked.
It's because we didn't see them.

I'm just going under 500 teams.

I think Cowboys and Bengals are the same.

I don't think Cowboys and Bengals are the same.

Cowboys, Bengals, Jets are all kind of a separate group.

I disagree.

I think the Bengals are better than all those teams.

And that's because of the probably QB.

I think the Bengals are better than all those teams.

I think the Cowboys and the Jets are very similar.

Okay, here we go.

Cardinals.

No. They don't suck.
Rams. No.
Saints. Yes.
Giants. Yes.
Suck. Panthers.
Suck. So 10 teams suck, but the majority of them are in the AFC.
Seven of the 10 teams that suck are in the AFC. The AFC sucks.
Yeah. I think that's what we just figured out.
The AFC sucks. They do.
If you had asked me three weeks ago, I would have said the Chiefs and the Spills. The current Rams suck, but they won't suck.
I don't think they suck, though, because again, besides that one loss, they lost less than a touchdown to every other team. They lost in overtime to the Lions.
They lost by five to the Packers. They lost by six to the Bears.
They don't suck. I do think there's a difference between a team that sucks and a team that sucks but has a quarterback that I know is capable of not sucking.
Correct. So Matt Stafford, he is very capable of not sucking.
That means that the whole team, as an entire unit, you can't say that they suck.

I think it's a strong 10 that suck. We didn't count the Rams to suck.
You think they suck, huh, Max? When they get their guys back, I don't think they will. Okay.
I think that the current Rams suck. Okay.
Either way, I think that just proves, yeah, the AFC is bad. The AFC, it's basically going to be a competition between the Bengals and I don't even think, I think the Bengals are going to be in the playoffs.
It's like the Chiefs, a bunch of teams that think that they can beat the Chiefs, and then a bunch of teams that have completely given up on beating the Chiefs and are trying to build for the future. Right.
That's the AFC. Right.
And then the Ravens. Because the Ravens are in that category of they are like extra think they can beat the Chiefs.
Yeah. But we know they can't.
They think they know they can beat the Chiefs. Right.
They think that if they just flex a little bit and run the ball and then forget to run the ball, they can beat the Chiefs. I actually think they know that they think they can beat the Chiefs.
Right. But then the problem is the Chiefs know that they – the Chiefs know the Ravens think that they can beat the Chiefs.
But they know that they can't. They know they can't.
Yeah. Right, exactly.
All right, so that was the entire NFL breaking down. Let's talk about the last game – actually, second to last game.
Chiefs, 49ers. Chiefs, 28, 49ers, 18.
I am the idiot who bet against patrick mahomes is an underdog now no actually i was gonna make an excuse for myself and be like well debo samuel played three plays and brandon iuk uh probably is out for the year uh and juwan jennings was out but there is no excuse i'm just a moron and uh i should i should just stop gambling or at least on the Chiefs. No, I just feel like if you can't, if you just, if you try to outsmart Patrick Mahomes as an underdog, you're just a moron, which guilty as charged.
I'm a fucking moron. And also Andy Reid off a bye.
And I learned my lesson last year in the Super Bowl, and I bet on Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl, and I just was like, nah, you know what? I've got smarter. The Chiefs were fucking around with the 49ers today too.
Do you see that play that they ran where it was Carson Wentz and Patrick Mahomes in the back? Yeah, on the field. That's what really sucked actually was within like five minutes, I had to watch Jaden get taken out of the game and then Carson Wentz on the field.
On the Chiefs. Which really bummed me out.
But they ran a play where Carson gave like an an inside handoff and then they had mahomes trailing around i'm gonna predict any reads next fuck shit that he's gonna do at some point this season yeah i think he's gonna run a play with carson wentz and mahomes on the field at the same time little uh inside handoff uh carson wentz to their running back pitches it back to mahomes and then Mahomes throws for a touchdown. Maybe even to Carson Wentz.
Yeah. Or maybe Mahomes throws it to Travis Kelsey who then pitches it back to Carson Wentz.
Yeah. They're going to try to run like a good fundamentally sound basketball offense where you're not allowed to score until every player touches the ball.
The big story though here and I know the Niners are dealing with a lot of injuries, but the Chiefs defense is just nasty. They're just nasty, nasty, nasty.
They're nasty boys. They fuck shit up.
They stop the run. Then they fuck you up another way.
They turned Brock Purdy through three interceptions. This also is a stat that's about the Chiefs defense and i obviously i think highly of patrick mahomes he's the best uh quarterback in the nfl patrick mahomes is the

first quarterback since peyton manning in 2015 to start six and oh with more interceptions than

touchdowns yeah and he had two he had two picks today he has eight picks on the season six

touchdowns uh every single every single uh game he's thrown a pick. He's doing the Will Levis.
But it doesn't matter because the Chiefs' defense is awesome, and Patrick Mahomes makes plays when he has to, and he also has figured out the perfect way to have everyone not tackle him when he's running along the sideline. Yeah.
Yeah, he acts like he's going to go out of bounds, and then players pull and then he does a little cut back hops forward for like two yards he's just they just have a formula now that uh and i think that patrick holmes will get better as the season goes along and he gets more comfortable with his receivers and xavier worthy and all that but it doesn't matter because they'll just win whatever way they have to win like andy reed's pounding the rock now, which he historically never did. They ran the ball down their throats 184 yards.
I just – the Chiefs are just inevitable. There's nothing – I mean, what – should we predict the Chiefs' first loss? I don't really know.
They're not going to lose to the Raiders next week. I wouldn't put it past the Raiders, though.
No, I would. If there's one team that's not going to pull up on Patrick Mahomes when he goes to the sidelines, that would probably be the Raiders' defense.
I'm going to say their first loss is going to happen November 17th against the Bills, and then the Bills are going to be like, we can beat the Chiefs, and then they're going to lose in the playoffs. Let's see.
Chiefs' schedule. I can see the Bucs making some magic happen.
I can't wait to see what the Panthers-Chiefs line is going to be. 17? I could see the Bucs beating them, too.
Yeah, maybe. But that's in Kansas City, and that's a Monday night game.
So, no, you can't. Don't let your Stephen Che.
I'm not. I'm talking about Patrick Mahomes' Monday night football.
Ref show. Yeah, there you go, Hank.
I've got big news on that front.ven che has been released by the tampa bay buck as a fan in order to gain more people's acceptance of that i love that officially released that was confirmed to me on friday by a high level executive good good uh let me read a tweet for you and you tell me uh if this is a good or bad thing or just i don't even know what to make of it this is from grant cone who covers the 49ers he said kyle shanahan just lectured brock purdy for five minutes at his locker purdy listened and said nothing never seen anything like it uh are you talking about coaching i was there's been coaching and lecturing the five minutes with nothing purdy saying nothing nothing back, that's weird. It is kind of strange.
Purdy is a very good quarterback when you don't ask him to be your entire offense. And now with all the guys out, he has to really handle a bigger load.
And it fell apart today. He was lost out there.
And the Chiefs are just good. Steve Spagnuolo is fucking good.
Steve Spagnuolo, is he 1-1 in best coordinators who should never be a head coach again? Yes. Flores.
Flores could be a head coach again. He could be a head coach.
I think Vic Fangio is on that list. I don't know if Flores is going to be a head coach, though, because he's got the lawsuits against the NFL, and and he's probably gonna be blackballed from that and there's like lost draft picks and fines and shit i would say spagnola is number one cliff kingsbury's on that list he is but he will be a head coach he will be there are so many dumb owners in the nfl that cliff kingsbury a million percent will be i hope he doesn't hope he's coordinator for life vick fangio's for sure on that list yeah fangio's on that list but yeah he's Steve Sagnola like just incredible he might be one of the best defensive coordinators ever and he was not that great of a head coach yeah sometimes you can't do it all Joe Brady he hasn't had a chance as a head coach true uh true there's one that maybe recently is unemployed that i might put on that list oh yeah salah salah yeah although is he a bad head coach or was he just on the jets yeah that's probably just the jets yeah we should probably talk about the jets uh so the steelers kicked the shit out of the Jets on Sunday Night Football.

What was the final score, Memes?

35-16, 15?

36-15?

37-15?

38-15?

What was it?

I'll get the official.

37-15.

37-15.

Russie kind of cooked.

Russie was good, man.

He was throwing the moon ball again.

He sucked in the first quarter.

He got booed. He was throwing the ball at people's feet.
He was getting sacked. It was like, damn, we have seen this Russ before.
And then he just started saying, fuck it. I'm going to throw it up to George Pickens.
I'm going to throw it up to Pat Friermuth. And the one thing about Russell Wilson is he'll give his guys a chance, and he was doing that, and George Pickens can catch literally anything,

and the Steelers' defense started swarming,

and the Jets are now 2-5, but they hit the Hassan Redick button.

Yep, so that's their excuse this week.

Yeah.

I guess it's a reason to be happy, happier than you would have been after this loss.

What are you going to do next week when you lose?

I would just like to apologize to everybody listening. Okay.
We suck. Yeah? We suck.
We have no identity. We're just a bad football team.
I'm beginning to doubt Ulbrich's credentials as interim coach. He couldn't throw the challenge flag.
This is the only team in the history of football that has not gotten an interim bump yeah there's just no juice anywhere there's like when when one side of the ball is playing good the other side is playing bad when the offensive line is playing good Aaron Rodgers plays bad Aaron Rodgers can't turn fucking left can I submit a theory to you Yes. Maybe you're not getting the interim bump because Robert Salah is still secretly coaching the team.
Well, his stink is all over the team. Well, he's apparently calling and texting with all the coaches on a daily basis.
Who'd you hear that from? That was Collinsworth on the broadcast tonight. That's not good.
No. So that's what I'm saying.
I don't know if you truly have an interim head coach right now. I don't know what we have.
We just suck. Well, is that not weird? Yeah, that is weird.
It's so weird. That's so weird.
And credit to Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams is a stud.
He's a stud, and he made a smart move. He went from a 2-5 team to a 2-5 team.
Good for him. Yeah, we traded for a Porsche and brought him into a garage and just lit it on fire and it fucking exploded.
That's a great analogy. His tackle was so sick.
Yeah, he did. Oh, he plays defense now? He didn't give up.
You didn't see that? No, I know, but you don't want Devontae Adams tackling. No.
He did everything he needed to do.

And Rodgers just can't look left.

There was on the interception that changed the entire game.

Literally.

Once that interception happened, the game just.

Are you talking about the Garrett Wilson?

Yeah, the first Garrett Wilson.

Yeah, where it just hit him in the chest?

No, no, no.

The first one.

Oh.

It was over the middle.

Oh, Beanie got it. Yeah.
Beanie got it. Devontae Adams would just run up the sideline wide open.
Oh. And he just couldn't turn left.
I have a question. Yeah.
Does Garrett Wilson suck? Oh, good question. I don't think Garrett Wilson sucks, no.
I don't think he sucks. I just feel like he's not great.
I would say that was the interception that turned everything. When the ball went right off of him and then the steelers returned it to like the four yard line i think that was the one that changed the game you're right but i'm saying the the energy you said while we were watching the game like it was a freaky friday situation between russell wilson and aaron rogers i said that's that's where that happened i think i said that did he throw three picks? No, just two.
Oh, okay.

I think it was maybe when he threw it in the ground or missed a wide-open receiver.

Yeah, he's...

When TJ jumped up, swatted it with two hands.

Yeah, it's bad memes.

You guys are just...

You're still the Jets.

This is...

It's so bad.

We're as Jets as possible.

Yeah, you've reached the peak Jets.

This is peak.

Where's your defense?

You guys couldn't make a tackle.

It was weird.

Well, we haven't been able to stop the run all season.

Hassan Redick fixes this.

He also can't stop the run.

Oh, shit.

Well, that's bad.

Aaron Rodgers' Achilles screwed up the entire Jets' timeline.

Everything was great before that happened. Yeah, you think you guys – Well, I mean, the team's good.
Yeah. Were they? The defense was good, at least.
Yeah. So, last year was Zach Wilson.
After week seven. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

These are tainted stats.

Are you two and five right now?

Yeah.

Zach Wilson was four and three.

Oh, I thought you were going to talk with the offensive points.

Four and three.

He was four and three.

What's the tainted stat that you didn't want us to bring up?

No, the fucking Trey Wingo said through week six,

the Jets had the same exact points scored from last season to this season.

It sounds like... No, the fucking Trey Wingo said through week six,

the Jets had the same exact points scored from last season to this season.

It sounds like a Florio to me.

Yeah, but they were four and three.

Stoner.

They were four and three.

Yeah, I think the year before that they were five and one.

Oh, man.

So bring Zach back?

Bring Zach back, I think. No, the defenses on those teams were incredible.
And now we just can't stop the run. We could put Max back there.
Yeah, there were six and three. And he'll destroy our defense.
Yeah, it's a fact. I'd fucking run him over.
Oh, when you had Mike White in 2021, you were two and five. Same record as this year.
Memes also just going through this remaining schedule and just telling me wins. They're like, that's a win.
That's a win. Who's a win? Okay, let's go, memes.
There's no wins left after tonight. No, there's wins.
No, there's wins, but there's no. You guys will win another game.
You're not hearing what I'm saying, though. There's no, oh, that's guaranteed a win.
I see one. I better get the Patriots at the end of the year.
They have the Patriots next week. Next week.
Way to be on top of the schedule, Henry. All right.
Patriots is a win. Houston? Defense could be nasty.
No, no, no. No, we're done with this exercise.
All right, all right. We know you're not taking it seriously.
Lost, lost, lost. No, no, no.
No, we're done with this exercise.

We know you're not taking it seriously.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm refusing to accept that as a loss because you truly think that they can win that game.

If the defense looks better with Hassan Redick.

But that's the thing.

It's just coming together as a team, and they just can't come together as a team.

You add Devontae Adams. He gets open.
You just have to throw him the ball, and you can't even look left. All right.
Let's go back to the action. Where did you lose to the Patriots? Good question.
Great question, Max. At New England.
I'll see you when I see you. All right.
New England, a win. Win.
Houston. We'll go loss.
Okay. Arizona.

Win.

Okay.

Indianapolis.

Sunday Night Football.

We're not great on primetime.

Can they flex that?

Yeah, I think so.

The Jets have had like 100 primetime games.

If they flex it, win.

Okay.

Seattle.

At home, win.

Miami with maybe Tua back. With Tua at Miami, Miami.
Okay. At home, win.
Miami with maybe Tua back.

With Tua, at Miami, Miami.

Okay.

At Jacksonville.

Win.

Los Angeles.

Rams.

Depending who they have back.

But isn't their defense terrible?

Well, just say it.

You got to make the playoffs.

Their defense is terrible.

Say it.

Win.

Okay.

Buffalo. At Buffalo, loss.
Okay. Miami at home.
Win. So you, and this is like the best case scenario, you have nine wins.
And we'd miss the playoffs. A lot.
Yeah. I don't know.
That was bad though, memes. No, you've got to win them all.
Pretty much. You've to win them all.
It's time for the run the table. You got to run the table.
You got to hit the run the table button, memes. We already have to run the table? Well, the best record you could go right now is 12-5.
That's winning every single game. You have to imagine that you're going to lose at least two more games, so that's 10-7, and probably you're going to lose three more games, so that's 9-8.
You'd be finishing 7-3, and you would finish... Sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 7-3, and you'd finish 9-8.
You going to go 7-3 with this team? I don't think so. Okay.
I think the season's over. Yeah, it might be.

I feel like you have,

you can lose to the Patriots and that's when Aaron Rodgers

smashes the run the table button.

After like a devastating loss.

What do you do if they lose?

You know what, memes?

I'm going to give you this.

I'm going to give you this.

This is,

I've said this before on this show,

you have a portal game.

Remember I used to talk about portal games

where if the,

I would be like,

if the Bears win this game, then it opens up a portal of happiness to where I could see things happening. Okay.
The Houston Texans is your portal game. Yeah.
You beat the Patriots. If you beat the Texans, everything is back.
If you lose to the Texans, shut it down. That's the portal game.
And it's just fire sales. Yeah.
And you got to fire Ulbrich. You got to fire Ulbrich.
He's memes. Or Max.
It's a portal game. Can we play Whose Line Is It Anyway for at New England? Yes.
Yes. We keep just saying win.
Yeah. All right.
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Hank, whose line is it anyway?

DraftKings.

Whose line do you think it is anyway?

I think it's Jets heavily favored.

I think it's Jets minus they're favored by 7.5.

I think we were 7.5 last time at home.

I'll say 5.

I think it's Jets minus 8.

No, Jets minus 6. Drake May drake may changes it let's go minus three it is the new england patriots plus six and a half okay okay okay so not a win hank how do you feel about that game hank if you win this game win that oh my god super bowl yeah wow this this is a portal's Super Bowl.
Yeah. Wow.
This is a portal game for Hank. This is what an undercard for the Caleb Williams versus Marcus Mariota Bowl.
We just did this. We did this.
And you almost killed me when I walked in the office. Yeah, you wanted to punch him that night.
Yeah. I don't think I'll get to that point this time.
Unless he says that. That was back when the Jets were 2-1.
Yeah, no. I won't punch him this time.
It does feel like a completely different team from a month ago, doesn't it? Yeah. Well, you guys won that game.
I don't think you've won since. No, they have not.
That was their last win. I think the only teams we beat are both 1-5.
Yes, that would be correct. Actually, the Patriots are 1-6.
1-6, sorry. The Titans are 1-5-5.
Yeah, beating 1-5 teams is actually good. It means you're a good team.
Yeah. Well, you have to, I mean, 2-5.
You play who you play. A rush is back, though.
I think the Steelers are good. I do, too.
The defense is obviously, they've been good for the last, it feels like, five seasons. Tonight was a master class in Mike Tomlin voodoo.
It was like block kicks, receivers having balls bounce off them into a stealer's hand, batting down balls to the line, renegade just fucking bumping. Run the football.
Run the football. They ran the fuck out of the football.
And Russell Wilsonson loves george pickens that's the biggest difference george pickens probably pretty happy for the first time maybe in his life after the football game today because russell wilson was like i see george downfield i'm just gonna throw the ball up because he can win a one-on-one catch against anybody in the league yeah and keeping him you have to he's like a child with add you have to like snap and be like hey pay attention pay attention best way to do that is by giving the football all the time giving him the football and i feel like george pickens respects russ for the fact that he gets the football and also the fact that george pickens broke the news on friday that russell wilson was going to be starting i would have loved to see a camera on mike tomlin when somebody told him hey listen george just uh talked to the media and he gave away your. It was those back-to-back stories.
Mike Tomlin was like, we don't know who we're going with on Sunday night. And then 20 minutes later, George Pickens was like, yeah, I've been working extra hard with Russell Wilson after practice every day.
Yeah. Yeah.
Which I think maybe Russell Wilson respects George for saying that. Yeah.
For naming him as the starting quarterback. He doesn't want to let him down.
russ was cooking he was cooking russell wilson throws two touchdowns he's not afraid to throw it across the field that's the thing the steelers just they don't use they've got reverse blinders on where they're like we're not going to even glance at the middle of the field if we're throwing a pass and now russ was he was doing that he was rolling out he didn't look fast but he looked more athletic than i thought he would look. Yeah.
I think I'm going to take the Giants though next week now that I'm looking at it because that's a classic Tomlin letdown spot. Is it home or away? It's home.
Are they wearing the block letters? That's big. Now the block letters are 5-0.
Those block letters were huge. They were massive.
Yeah. Block numbers were massive.
Okay, so that's our full week seven. We have a World Series.
Oh, no. Memes, is your mic still on? We can talk about the Liberty later.
Yeah, the Liberty is sick. Memes, your mic is still on? It's on.
So the Mets lost. The Mets lost.
Yeah. Went out sad.
I thought the Rizzler was going to save the season. I did too.
I really did think the Rizzler was going to save the season. Incredible run for the Mets.
The Dodgers are just so goddamn good. The Dodgers are a wagon.
They are insanely, insanely good. It just felt like every at bat they just grind you down.
They beat you up. And we saw it.
They have hitters everywhere. What's the guy who's just hitting everything now, Max? Edmund.
Edmund. Tommy Edmund.
Tommy Edmund. Out of nowhere.
You need one of those guys. He's batting over 800 in the NLCS.
That's crazy. And I feel like the Dodgers, too, I don't still even understand what the Dodgers' rotation is because they just have so many bullpen arms that are just always warming up and ready to mow people down I think they just kind of go off vibes and then they're like we trust our lineup to get more runs yeah so we'll just kind of tread water for a while Otani do you see that Otani is 18 of 23 with runners in scoring position it's insane yeah like that's that's well they show it every time it's crazy.
It's crazy though. That's a crazy stat.
Yeah. And then he stinks leading off.
He stinks leading off, but the Dodgers are an absolute wagon and they're going up against the Yankees. Yankees, Dodgers.
I know there's people who are probably upset about it. I don't...
I mean, it's going to be a good World Series. Like they're the two best teams.
Yeah, I think if it's not a team that you're rooting for in the World Series, you want to have the two best teams with the two most explosive lineups. It's going to be fun.
A couple things that have been funny that I've noticed. One is just purely anecdotal.
So I think most Yankee fans don't feel this way, but I was doing my fantasy corner this morning, and a Yankee fan was like, why are people so bitter about the Yankees making the World Series? And I was just like, are you actually asking me that question? Like, you guys haven't been here long enough that you don't realize it? Like, the Cowboys and the Yankees are just, everyone just grows up hating them. That's definitely like an 18-year-old that asks.
Yeah, like, they're called the evil empire. Well, they haven't really won shit.
Right, so that's a new Yankees fan. But that's just, you just hate them because they always spend the most money.
That's just what you do. And I don't really, like, I don't hate the Yankees, but it's like, yeah, of course, they spend the most money.
I actually like some of the guys on the Yankees, but it was a crazy question to just have posed to me. And the other one was everyone, and this happens with every sport, but being like, I'm going to say something nice about the Yankees, being like the Yankees had the easiest path in the history of sports.
Hey, that's why you play a regular season. The Yankees got the one seed.
The Astros started incredibly slow, and the one team that can beat the Yankees seems like every year of the Astros. They started incredibly slow, had to scratch and claw to be a wildcard team.
When you're a wildcard team, anything can happen. You can lose in the first round.
And then the AL Central is a bunch of teams that were good, but they also beat the fuck out of the White Sox all year. So this is why you play a regular season.
Yeah, and also just enjoy the fucking World Series between the two best lineups in sports. Correct.
It's going to be a lot of home runs, and we're going to be happier for having watched it. Juan Soto, that at bat last night, was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
He was so locked in, and he essentially said, I'm just going to foul off every pitch until you throw me a fastball, and then I'm going to hit the fastball 400 feet. But also, like, shake my head after every pitch.
Yeah, he was like, you could tell he was just locked. I've never seen a batter more locked in.
He didn't take eye contact off of the pitcher the entire time. First pitch, missed the zone by, like, I don't know, three inches, and he just stared through the pitcher's soul, and you knew, okay, Juan Soto's going to do his Juan Soto thing.
It's not going to be fair. And then the one fastball that he got was supposed to be above the zone.
And then he missed that by like six inches down at the top of the zone.

And then Soto turned on it and it was just a moonshot.

See, that's the thing is with these Yankees.

Like I don't even hate the players on the Yankees.

They're not even that hateable.

It's just, I mean, I like Juan Soto.

I like Soto.

I love Rizzo.

Like Rizzo.

The catcher's got a great look. I'll say it.
This is

crazy. I'm sure.
I like Giancarlo because he's just like, he's a fucking, he looks like the

Incredible Hulk and he just gets up and just gets a piece of the ball and goes 500 yards.

How do you feel about Aaron Judge? Aaron Judge, I'm kind of hit or miss. Aaron Judge, I will

absolutely 100% say that he is not a true Yankee if he doesn't win a World Series. Well, that's a fact.
Not a World Series. I think the only guy I really don't like is I don't like Garrett Cole.
And I think it's just because I don't like his shaven face. And it's something about his vibe.
Yeah, he kind of sacrificed who he was to become a Yankee. And he always wanted to be a Yankee.
There was that famous picture of him at the World Series in like 2001 or something yeah well also basically any kid that grew up in that era at some point was a Yankee fan because they were winning everything it was 2009 yeah it might have been oh no Garrett Cole's a little older though yeah but you might be right um Garrett Cole's 34 so yeah no so yeah it was probably 2001 yeah he was a fan of those teams. He was like nine years old.
He's five years younger than me in Big Cat. Yeah.
Yeah, Juan Soto. Yeah, so like, but it just, and I don't really like the Dodgers either because they spend a lot of money too, but that's also baseball.
Like, I don't really, it is what it is. Like, would it be fun if there was some scrappy? We had that last year.
Well, I guess the Rangers spent a lot of money, but the Diamondbacks? Yeah, guess what? You say that you want the young scrappy teams, and then you don't watch the World Series. This World Series is going to fucking rock.
Oh, let's talk ratings. Let's talk ratings.
The two best, Shohei Otani versus Aaron Judge, and I still don't know. I don't know how a pitcher deals with the Yankees lineup.
The Soto, Judge, Giancarlo, like three in a row is just, it's insane. If I was a manager, I would do it all based on lefty versus lefty, righty versus righty.
They were saying last night, they're like, you should walk Juan Soto. It's like for Aaron Judge.
But then the Dodgers have O'Connor, Betts, and Freddie Freeman. Yeah, it's crazy.
It's going to be awesome. I know people will hate on this World Series.
I wish it was a Subway Series just for our own personal content at Barstool. But this is going to be awesome.
And it also feels like, I'll say this too, it feels like these two teams have been circling each other for the last five years. And we finally get it.
You know what I mean? Because the Dodgers have won a World Series. The Yankees have gone to a bunch of ALCSs.
You feel like we finally get what we've all wanted is having this matchup. So I'm looking at the ratings because that's what we truly care about.
Yeah. Last year, 9.08 million average.
Okay. I'm predicting million whoa average for this one whoa that's that's what we're talking about we're talking about ratings let's talk about ratings talk about ratings baby we also uh i i should say uh the guardians as sad as they went out that was one of the most exciting five game series of all time yeah i mean it had some thrillers what how many did two the last two games went to extras like it was we had walk-offs it felt like every game lead changes was a lead change late um and class a i don't know what i that was the series yeah he was the series did you guys see the uh there was the clip of his catcher going around from earlier this year? No.
His catcher did an interview, and he said that he thought that Glasse was the best pitcher of all time, better than Mariano Rivera. I want my catcher saying that.
Yeah, but I think – what did he end up giving up? Six earned runs in these playoffs? I think Mariano Rivera gave up like 11 earned runs in his entire career in the playoffs. Yeah.
That's a bad one. It's a bad one.
It's a ride or die catcher. It's a ride or die catcher.
But yeah, I'm excited for this World Series. I think it's going to be a great World Series.
I think it's going to be awesome. Yeah.
I want it to go seven. It's been a great playoffs.
It's been a great fucking playoffs. And the Mets were, that was a magical ride.
Mets, maybe you'll get, the one thing that's very funny that's going on right now is just Mets fans being like, well, we're going to get Juan Soto. And it's pissing off Yankees fans so bad.
So what do you think Juan Soto's contract is going to be? A billion dollars. You think it's going to be more than Shohei's? It could be.
I don't know. I don't know.
I just just said a billion dollars but i wouldn't be shocked if they were like juan soto signs for 12 years a billion dollars i mean it's scott boris so scott boris is going to he will get the most money possible for juan soto and he's still 25 he's 25 i'm he'll make a billion i think he's gonna get oh yeah for sure easily i think he's gonna beat sho hayes contract sho hayes contract to remind was 10 years, 700 million. He won't beat you.
I think he's going to get... Oh, yeah, for sure.
I think he's going to beat Shohei's contract. Shohei's contract, to remind you, was 10 years, $700 million.
He won't beat Shohei. I don't think he'll beat Shohei's because Shohei, remember, is still a pitcher.
Yeah, he's two players. But what do you think it's going to be? I mean, will it be 10 years, $600 million? It'll be over $500 million.
Yeah. It depends because you can give him so many years.
That's the difference. Shohei only got 10 years.
Soto could get close to 13, 15 years. Yeah, what did Bryce get? How many years did Bryce get? I think he got 13.
Yeah, so you could do that. I've got an idea.
Bryce Harper got 13 years, $330 million. Honestly, such a steal.
That's a bargain. That's an insane steal.
Yeah, so he could get... Soto could get like 13 years, $750 million.
No, he won't get that much. I think it's impossible.
Because when Shohei signed with the Dodgers,

some people were saying they might not even use him as a pitcher.

But here's the thing, Max, that you're forgetting.

Shohei felt like was never really going to go to New York.

It felt like he was going to stay in L.A.

And I know that L.A. still had to offer him a ton of money.

Soto, it feels like, loves New York, and it's going to be a literal bidding war between the Mets and the Yankees. So he's got the two big dogs.
They're going to have to get into bidding war. But I don't know that he has any loyalty to the city of New York.
I feel like... He seems like he's...
I'm sure he's enjoying his time there in the World Series, but I think that Soto, through Boris, is strictly a highest bidder guy. So that could be the Yankees.
A good possibility is the Mets. But then, I mean, I don't want to say that the Nationals were getting full, but they might.
There's no way. But they might.
You can justify Shohei's contract. The next biggest contract is $426 million at 12 years.
Right, but... Is he 24? He's going to be 26 in like two days.
Juan Soto might be the best baseball player of all time. Trout signed that at 27.
Right. But that was what? How many years ago? Six years ago? But Mookie just signed this, 365 for 12.

Mookie bets is not one soda. I'm saying over 500.

I don't think he'll get six.

Okay.

We'll make a bet.

Loser has to get a Juan Soto tattoo.

If I got a Yankees or Mets Juan Soto tattoo, I would find.

Loser owes the winner one-tenth of Juan Soto's contract.

Either way, I'm pumped for the World Series.

It's going to be great.

It's going to be fucking great.

And we get to also get stories from the reporters having to travel coast to coast.

Yeah, thoughts and prayers.

Thoughts and prayers.

The opposite of a Subway series.

Yeah. Memes, any last thoughts on the Mets before we finish up with who's back of the week? It was a fun season.
I really did think the Rizzler was going to come through for us. I know.
Everything lined up, but it was a good season. When we lost to the better team, hopefully they win it because I fucking hate the Yankees.
Yeah. And congrats congrats Max You were very happy Yeah and now I'm really sorry that We don't get to watch any more Mets games But there's always next year I guess Memes is going to fucking kill one of us Like honestly Hank You might have to stand down And not win this game on Sunday.
Yeah, just don't win. Don't win.
I'm just as excited for that game the more that I think about it. Memes, are you more broken up about the Jets? Are you more broken up about the Mets? Because I feel like...
Somebody asked me that last week. They were like, oh, how do you rank it? It's like, if they're in it, I'm in it.
I don't care who's playing. I'm in it.
york liberty whatever like i'm i'm a fan and that's it there's no ranking but jets no it's jets you're definitely more upset but like it's yeah we watched my childhood because you just said like the mets next season it sounds like there's some optimism if you're a jets fan or a mets fan yeah there's always optimism with the mets because they're always capable of making this run the jets just no but it's different this year isn't it it's like this is the team that wasn't supposed to do it and the magical run that you guys when i feel like most mets like 2015 that was only daniel murphy obviously bummed out about losing but at the same time they're like we have a good core team that we can build around oh yeah there's so much hope we need we need Jaden Daniels to play, and we need the Patriots to beat the Jets,

and I think we might have the most listened to part of my take

without a guest ever.

What do you think the formula is for the Commanders-Bears game

to get the most ratings?

It's got to be one has a perfect passer rating

and the other throws five interceptions.

A blowout is the best-case scenario either way.

We just need one of you to walk away with thinking

you have a better quarterback.

Thank you. I guarantee it won't.
But the stakes are the Eagles playing. We play the Bengals.
All right, so you need the Eagles to get blown out get blown out or the patriots to beat the jets and then one of our quarterbacks to be awful while the other one's incredible hear me that will be the most listened to part of my take episode without a guest ever hear me out commanders bears three to nothing five interceptions amongst the two quarterbacks just terrible performances all around i hate this hate this. Patriots, 40-piece the Jets, Drake May, five touchdowns, perfect passer rating.
Oh, that would be phenomenal. That's the formula.
Jalen Hurts throws four interceptions. Well, no, but then it's the one, two, three.
Yeah, yeah. The Eagles are playing the Bengals? I think regardless, no one cares about the Eagles next week.
No, if you get blown out, we'll make sure that that gets talked about. Sirianni fired and Big Dom promoted to head coach.
Yeah. Sirianni cries at midfield and they have to take him out on a stretcher because he's crying.
But it's a road. What do you mean? He doesn't have to worry about the fans.
Hank's a sick fuck for thinking that. Yeah, he is.
You really are. You asked the question, what is the formula, and I gave you the formula.
I gave you the answer. I don't think that's right.
You asked the question, I gave you the correct answer, and now you're giving me an X on my test. Because I don't like the answer.
But it's right. Because it makes me feel bad.
He's thinking about the future of this show. I'm thinking about ratings.
All I think about is ratings. He's being a good executive producer over there.
Thank you, Matt.

Is that your official title? I don't know.

I just gave it a little bit. I like

it. I like it a lot.
They don't do anything.

Oh, I got one other thing.

Well, no. I'll throw

in one other thing. I'm not going to throw in the

other thing. No, throw them in there.

76ers play earlier in that day.

Yeah. Who cares? We don't root for entries, Big Cat earlier in that day yeah who cares we don't root for entries big guy oh oh no we don't if we're just trying to if we're trying to figure out what the most ratings could possibly be no no one will care no one will care if joe mb plays and then doesn't play again this year october sunday basketball is not going to get people.
Everyone wants Jaden and Caleb, and Drake made it go off. I just slipped that in there.
No, I agree. And Drake made it go off.
If Jaden doesn't play, you should be punished. You should be punished.
You should be punished. I already said I'd give him my rib.
It's your fault if Jaden doesn't play. Hank's like, yeah, if you're an AWL sitting out there, you're just hoping that Jaden plays and that Drake may go off.
That's all you're thinking about. He's going to play.
I'm going to report right now. Jaden Daniels.
I like that. Jaden Daniels is going to play.
Can I tweet it? Yeah. All right.
Yeah. I'm going to tweet it right now.
Are you going to credit? Yeah. I'm going to say PFT has just reported on part of my take that Jane Daniels will be playing.
Because he knows how much this means to us as a podcast. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
And I think that thought has gone through his mind. I should DM his mom to see it.
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because Jaden knows how important this is to our show.

Please credit PFT Commenter and also ask part of my memes for a Call of Duty code.

He's giving them away if you tweet at him.

Okay, that's good.

I think that covered everything.

Yeah, I think I got it all.

Yeah.

Did you add anything about Drake May?

I did not.

Shit, I forgot about Drake May.

Do add a thread.

Also, Hank wants it clear that most... Also, Hank...
I don't think you can just say also just so everyone's on the same page. We all...
We all have to show. Once it reported that everyone is thinking about Drake May first and foremost.
Big time. Doing, going off.

I'm thinking about Drake May going off right now.

It would be great, though,

seeing just the Patriots destroy the Jets.

Drake May.

Me, he's making noises.

Mike Off.

Three touchdowns.

And I'm not even rooting against the Jets.

I want to make this very clear.

I got no ill will towards the Jets.

But I do love seeing. You hate the Jets.
You're a Florio commenter. You hate the Jets.
I want to make this very clear. I got no ill will towards the Jets.
But I do love seeing... You hate the Jets.
You're Florio

commenter. You hate the Jets.

What do you think I said to Florio?

I told him to suck my dick.

Yeah, but you hate the Jets. I don't hate the Jets.

I have no animosity towards the Jets.

The amount of times memes talk about how much you

hate the Jets while his mic's off back here,

it's the whole show. Is it the whole show?

You hate the Jets. You do too many insult stats.
Well, there's a lot of them. I think you hate the Jets.
I don't hate the Jets. Drake May can't go off.
I promise you I don't hate the Jets. Okay, I've updated it.
I said, also, Henny's wants it reported that he thinks AWLs are thinking about Drake May quote-unquote going off against the Jets more than the Bears-Commanders game. Tune in to a great PMT tomorrow.
You can hear this reporting in real time. Feels good.
Number one, Drake May going off. Number two, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams playing against each other.
Number three, no injuries in the Sixers game. Number four, Eagles.
Nick Sirianni having a mental breakdown. Do you think maybe we get more rain? What if the lighthouse fell over? This is the biggest Sunday of our lives.
There's one other big one. There's one other big X factor, although I don't know if there's a bye.
What? Jameis. Oh, is Jameis playing next week? This would be the biggest Sunday of our lives.
Jameis beating the Ravens. Oh, my God.
This is the biggest Sunday of our lives. I'll also be in Madison on Sunday for Penn State.
No one gives a fuck about Penn State, Wisconsin, Max. Flacco gets in.
That's already happened, though. Yeah, but he could do it again.
Wow. This is going to be the biggest Sunday of our lives.
And your Cowboys play Sunday night. On Sunday night football.
Hell yeah. Right after Drake May goes off.
All right. Who's back of the week? Let's finish it up.
My who's back of the week. I got a couple.
First one is Charles Leclerc. Charles Leclerc? Charles Leclerc.
F1. He is the United States Grand Prix 2024 champion.
Yeah. Oh, hell yes.
He won the Austin race? Oh, prix 2024 champion yeah oh hell yes he won the austin race oh yeah i saw that race he won the austin race uh i had it on we had it on in the gambling cave in the afternoon on one of the screens fun to watch a little f1 i've been watching drive to survive uh we almost went to the vegas race last year pft i i wish we had gone and i wish i was going this year. That's coming up in a couple weeks.
Oh, it's back? It's back in Vegas this year. They're running it through the Strip this time.
They have stands set up in the Bellagio Fountain. It looks sick.
Oh, that's awesome. So F1's back.
Charles Leclerc, United States Grand Prix champion. When is the Vegas one? A couple weeks.
I think November.

Nice. I'm pumped.
It's actually definitely November. I just don't know exactly.
You're going to have to give us a rundown on it. I want a full breakdown.
I will. My other who's back, PFT, is you.
I don't know how you invaded my algorithm. Yeah.
But you playing Freebird, there's like 1,000 videos. Oh, yeah.
I've seen them too. Yeah.
There's like a thousand videos oh yeah i've seen them too yeah yeah there's like a there's there's like a thousand videos of of accounts that just post you playing free bird it's cool well that's but i've seen i saw one and i've seen 20 this weekend are you talking about on x.com the everything on tiktok and it's everything at what's that memes you made my feed too oh cool i've seen you a bunch yeah it was aggregators doing it, right? Yeah, it's like PFT. Then everyone in the comments is like, this guy should do a podcast.
Wait, hang on. Hang on.
So it's not like Barstool affiliate accounts? No, no. It's random accounts.
And they're getting lots of likes. What are they saying? Just like...
It should be ripping. Yeah.
How much did you pay him? this is the first time. I thought he was talking about like Robbie's feed.

No, no. It's like random.

It's, it's a clip aggregator of Max's rates.

Like one of these accounts is post random clips, but it's just like PFT plays free bird.

I think I liked one and then I've seen legitimately a hundred.

I should retire.

I'm going to retire from playing free bird.

Go out on top.

I can't find it, but yeah, you're, you're all over my feet Freebird. Go out on top.
I can't find it.

But, yeah, you're all over my feet.

Congrats.

Love that.

All right.

Sweet.

Thank you, Hank.

Thanks for bringing that across my desk.

My Who's Back of the Week is going to be kicking battles.

Yeah.

So there's a couple programs out there that are lacking, shall we say,

at the college space in the field goal kicking department.

I think I'm going to retire from playing guitar.

I'm going to retire from playing Freebird,

and I think I'm going to train because Big Cat texted me over the weekend.

Can I say the schools that I might be working with?

Because there's a couple out there,

but Arizona State is apparently holding open tryouts on Monday. Yeah, Kenny Dillingham, who's a friend, said after the game that our kickers are so bad we need to hold open tryouts.
And I was like, shit. So I hit him up.
I think I've got a grad year. Yeah, so...
I would love to get a graduate degree from Arizona State. He actually is trying to find a kicker right away, so we probably can't do it fast enough to get you enrolled, but I've gotten verbal confirmation from him that you will get a tryout in the offseason, and then if you make it, then we'll just get you in school.
Okay, so I'm going to try to work the leg back up to, I think I can get to 44 yards if I give myself two months of training. Yeah.
But now I got something to work for. Yeah.
Hank dunking, me kicking a 44-yard field goal. We might have to go to Arizona.
What's less likely? Does Arizona have golf? I don't think so. We might have to go to Arizona.
Shit. Shit.
What's... What's your other who's back? Oh, that's my who's back.
Oh, because I'll just do my who's back is not Hank because I got some bad news to report. Oh.
He, I think the word was I'm cooked. Oh, you're just doing private conversations now? Well.
That's fine. Keep that in mind.
Well, no. I mean, I don't have to say it.
I didn't say what you're cooked about. No, let it rip.
No, that's fine. No, let it rip.
Well, he brought up the thing, the dunking versus kicking, and you were like, I don't really know. How's the dunking going? I i need to lose some weight where are you at we the people need like the people it's have interest you've gone zero dark 30 on us i'm gonna there will be interest i'm the last month will be hype i'm just i don't want to also like create interest on something i know i can't do i'm do you think you can't do it I still think I can do it.
What do you owe us if you can't do it? $4,000 each. Okay, nice.
I'll let you get out of it right now for $3,000 to me. No.
Okay. That was a good deal.
That's bad finance. That's a good deal.
I want to do it. I'm training to do it.
I know you want to. I want to do a lot of things.
I'll let you get out of it for zero dollars. We can wipe the slate clean if you agree not to play golf.
No. Wait.
No. I don't care.
I don't care. What were you going to say, Max? I was going to say this week, but okay.
What were you going to say, Max? December comes around and you can't dunk, but you're kind of close. Will you continue to reach that goal? Yeah, will you give up? Yeah, that's basically what I'm asking.
We'll see. If I'm, yeah, I'll probably try and keep doing it.
Even if I lose the money, I'd like to be able to prove my prove my point so how close are you right now i still need like five inches uh the i'm 180 pounds i was like 171 pounds in july so i need to lose some weight basically you look good though i know but imagine imagine jumping with a 10 pound how much more you could jump if you didn't-pound weight on your chest. Yeah.
Is that what it is? I imagine it all the time. Hmm? It's on your chest? Well, no.
I'm just saying hypothetically. Why don't you come start playing ball with us on Fridays? I will.
Yeah. Get a little sweat in.
We played a game to 11 on Friday that took us about 35 minutes. I think you can do it, Hank.
So bad. Don't give up the dream, Hank.
I'm not giving up. I might be cooked, but I'm not giving up.
My real who's back is we're just trying to we want people to get us. I'll just say it since you had to say the story.
Oh, come on! I'm not giving up. I don't care.
But I was working out. He kind of just of just brought out the vertical leap thing when I wasn't ready for it.
I was like, whoa, what are we doing here? And he's like, all right, let's see. And it was not as much progress.
I liked blindly thinking that I'm making good progress. You should have never jumped.
So when we jumped and it was still progress, but not as much progress as I had hoped for, I was like, fuck. And then I came and saw you right after.
So you saw me in my darkest time. That's like every diet that I've ever gone on, where it's like the first...
Don't step on the scale. The first two weeks are awesome.
If you feel good, who cares? Yeah, the first two weeks are awesome because you lose a lot of water weight. And then the third week, you step on the scale and you're like, fuck.
Why'd I do that? Just do the steroids. Do the steroids.
Take the steroids. uh other things that we should bring up because it is a good way to get people excited about videos that are coming up because i'm sure we'll have a big video stream for the for the dunk off uh which is not close like what are we gonna do without a great stream you'll have to do it well and also you still get the shots we're doing that december 22nd by the way we can put the date on it but you also get to shoot that's not happen.
But you still get a chance. Yeah, we get a chance.
We get a chance. I should probably start shooting.
Yeah, you still get a chance. We're still working on max pitching.
So hopefully we'll have, I don't know, in the next month or so, that video. When is our golf video coming out with Bob Does Sports? Do we have a date on that?

I got to talk to them.

And then Hank is also gearing up for his stream.

So you're going to do the nine darter video soon.

We're going to have the baseball video soon, and Hank's going to dunk.

I want you to shoot.

I think you might get crazy and just shoot. Is he allowed to try to dunk, fail, and then try to attempt the shots?

Or does he have to declare, I have failed at dunking. I'm going shot i want to see both i want to see both for sure for sure for sure i will i can start posting i have been doing a little bit of testing and i have thought about doing this as like a for for social but the the way i'm gonna dunk even if i am able to do it's gonna piss people off because i'm basically going to have a super inflated ball i'm gonna throw it so that it bounces off the ground i basically need to perfect uh bouncing a ball so that it basically bounces and lands in the hoop yeah and then i'm going to guide it on the way down uh but i will start posting some of the videos of me practicing that.
Because if you see the final form of the dunk, it will be the least appealing dunk. I'm so excited.
It will be a technical dunk, but whatever. I'm so excited for that.
I have to get real. That part of it is hard.
It's really hard. It's not easy.
How many chances do you get at it? I'll give them unlimited. Yeah, until January 1st.
Yeah. Because he could probably only get up that high with his first 10 jumps, right? Yeah, right.
So I need to spend the next month. How inflated? No.
No. Shut the fuck up, Max.
No, I'm on Hank's side. January 1st is his chances.
I said I could dunk a basketball by december 1st your january 1st yeah

he gets as many chances as he wants if he wants to just go live and just be like i just say i i could say like a hundred chances but if we're doing a stream there has to be an end no no january 1st stop saying defense january 1st wait is it january 1st or december 31st it's new year's New Year's.

But Friday the 22nd, we're going on break.

Okay, we're're going on break. I'm not doing an over break.
It's Friday the 22nd. No, the 22nd is Sunday, by the way.
I can't wait. It's 21st, whatever.
You guys are... Max is being so annoying.
He's being so annoying. I'm not.
I'm just saying as like a... You know what he's scared of? He's scared of Drake May going off.
I want May to go off I'm saying this as like a stream It's going to be weird That like we're just watching this Doesn't matter, I'm with Hank Also PFT's right I get unlimited attempts I will only be able to do it Within like 10 Think about the jumps Max Once he jumps 10 times as high as he can. In theory, I get unlimited.
Yes, he gets unlimited. I'm very excited about this super inflated ball little throw that you gotta do.
Does it have to be the regulation size? Yes, it does. Yes, it does.
Cannot be a women's ball. No.
How inflated are you gonna get? Enough to bounce and bounce it. Basically to the point of it breaking.
I needed to be like just dropping it.

Why does the inflation matter?

So it bounces all the way up.

I've tried it with the balls we have here.

They're not.

He basically has to perfectly coordinate a ball bouncing on the ground,

going all the way in, and he just gets up right at the last second and just places it.

I'm so excited for this that's hard i know that might be harder than dunking i know oh man but to hank's point you're probably not going to jump every single time you attempt to throw the ball up because you're going to have a lot of misses. Would you like me to try to perfect the ball part? This is the thing that as I'm doing the training, I can do a million of those a day.
You know what you should do? That I have time to do. You should get the shooting gun dialed in.
You have time to do that. You do a million of those.
What? You should get the shooting gun dialed in at the angle so. At the angle.
So it shoots the pass out and lands perfectly. Oh, not a bad idea.
That's a really good idea. That's a really good idea.
Yeah, that's a good idea. I don't know.
I know that you talked to me about re-flooring the basketball court because we've been here for a year now. Waxing it.
Waxing it. And you wanted to do it around Thanksgiving.
Was there anything to do with that? Maybe putting like springs in it, you know, on the boards? No. I just liked in high school, like when you came back from Thanksgiving.
Yeah. I just realized the other day.
I was like, huh, you wanted to get the floor redone. I also think maybe there should be a witness around Hank when he's in the gym, just in case he tries to lower the rims.
I've tried. You can't.
We can't. Trust tree? Trust tree? Trust tree? They asked us when we moved in, and we said, let's not give ourselves the option to lower

it.

We said that to Pete, and then I asked Pete, I was like, hey, can we lower the rims?

He's like, you told us not to build this in.

I was like, fuck.

Trustry, I also asked Pete, because my whole plan was to lower the rims by a quarter inch

every single month until Hank thought he could dunk, and then have him dunk and be like ha ha you fucking sucker they're not regulation so we both asked pete for different reasons and then so you were trying to cheat and i was trying to cheat you well i was trying to practice steven jackson yeah i don't i was trying to fuck you over and have you dunk on a nine foot like nine like nine-inch rim and then celebrate, and I'd be like, ha-ha, Normandale, and just... That would have been awesome.
That would have been funny. Yeah, it would have been really funny.
But yeah, we couldn't do it. We're idiots for not letting...
Why did we do that? We're so stupid. God damn it.
Why not? He was like, you guys said not to. It would have been great to just run full court.

Yeah.

Eight foot rims. I think that was what future us were thinking about.

Well, I think we were trying to avoid breaking the basketballs and injuries and everything.

Because once you do an eight foot rim, we never would have put it up.

Well, never.

Yeah.

And it would have got destroyed.

Yeah.

Okay.

Great show, boys.

Very fun.

Numbers.

Three.

Ten.

Eleven.

Five. Five.
Seventeen. We didn't hear you, Pug.
Ninety-nine, Pug. Pug showed up to the bar with a hickey the other night.
Let's go, Pug. It's not a hickey.
It's actually on a dog. It's called Hotspot.
I was on a text chain with all those guys.

I was like, Pug showed up to the bar with a hickey and his fiance.

What a power move.

My barber cut my neck.

44.

44.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Thank you.