Kyle Rudolph In Studio, Francis Ngannou Via Hologram, Saints Are On Quit Watch, NFL Week 7 Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Awesome interview. Awesome catching up with him, talking football, talking the end of his career, Tom Brady, everything.
And then we have the first ever part of my take hologram interview. Francis Nagano, we had a hologram machine in the office, in the studio.
It was wild. This is like a six-dimensional video that you're watching online right now.
You get the experience of us, and then you get to look at – I don't know what the hologram is going to look like. I don't either.
I'm going to have to watch the episode. Yeah, but it was very cool.
It was cool. So Francis Ngannou, really cool guy.
We also have NFL Week 7 picks and preview, Fantasy Fuckboys. We're going to talk some playoff baseball.
We're going to talk Thursday night football. We got Firefest.
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The crown is yours. Today is Friday, October 18th.
And Bo Nix, baby. Yeah, Bo Nix.
Bo Nix, he did it tonight. Kind of.
He did all of it tonight. The Broncos-Russian game did it a lot.
If you've ever wondered what Taysom Hill would look like if he was a little bit better at passing and a little bit worse at running, you got the full Bo Nix-Taysom Hill experience tonight because Sean Payton was doing the old Taysom Hill playbook for Bo Nix and nobody loves calling their own number more than Bo Nix. He drops back, like, he does the five-step drop, looks one way, and he's like, fuck, Bo Nix has to run this ball.
Bo Nix has to run this ball or throw it in between two wide-open receivers. So when you were like, Bo Nix was fun a couple weeks ago, I was like, eh, I don't know, and I was thinking more about Oregon Bo Nix.
Watching tonight, like, being able to take in a full Bo Nix game without any other games going on, it's Auburn Bo Nix, and I'll agree, he is fun. You don't know if it's going to be the worst pass or the best pass every single time he throws.
We had full-blown Bo tonight. He was doing Nix on it.
And it was the Broncos running game. They ran it down their face.
I think they had over 200 yards rushing, and the Saints are officially on quit watch. I would like to opt out of watching the Saints this year.
That 2-0 start, baby. How bad is Dallas? That's what tonight really told me.
How bad are the Dallas Cowboys? Yeah. Now, obviously, Derek Carr not playing.
That has a little bit to do with it, I think. But the fact remains that the Saints, they're they're old they're not fun and they're not getting any younger or more fun because right now we've talked for the last like five years about how the saints have just been in cap hell their entire life or the entire at least like feels like the last decade uh right now they own this is from jason otc they have only three players on the salary cap who would save the team more than three million dollars in cap room next year if they cut oh my god so uh their current 2025 salary cap position is the worst in the nfl again and how bad is it big cat how bad it's 75 million more in cap commitments than the next worst team jesus and and this is what happened we're currently witnessing cap hell.
And they also are, like, when I say quit watch, obviously injuries happen, but when key players start being like hamstring injury, a weird knee injury, and you're like, did we even see him get injured? It might be quit time. Dennis Allen, Richard Sherman said at halftime, he's like, they're trying to get Dennis Allen fired I wouldn't be shocked and the Saints are just like this was so this was a bad game but I kind of enjoyed it just for the fact that like Thursday night football the last two weeks we've had really good games Thursday football should be bad we should just embrace the bad and just like just bathe in just shitty gross football because you know you got all the football coming up it's like the entry point to the weekend and i kind of enjoyed the fact like even that first pass that bo nicks had where he split his wide receivers that were both two guys that were opening as wide open as you get he missed both of them equally yeah and and uh but yeah it was bad football from the saints uh better football from the broncos are feisty.
Their defense's good. Patrick Sertan wasn't even playing.
And Bo Nix, he's a roller coaster. He is a roller coaster.
So yeah, it's funny that you bring up what Thursday Night Football used to be because it's the one thing. Old people like to be like, back in my day, everything was better.
No, it's like back in my day, Thursday Night football was shit sucked if you get good thursday night games that's not what thursday night football is

thursday night football i think is at its peak when al michaels is actively complaining about

how shitty the game is the when i think thursday night football i think broncos cults last year

two years ago matt ryan versus ross wilson that was bad that's and it still will come because as

the season goes on the thursday night football games get worse that happens every year early

season thursday night football you can get some good like shootouts then as the season goes along

an That was bad. And it still will come because as the season goes on, the Thursday night football games get worse.
That happens every year. Early season Thursday night football, you can get some good shootouts.
Then as the season goes along and everyone's banged up, it just gets worse and worse and worse. And I love it.
I love it. So Broncos, I mean, they're 4-3.
Sean Payton's doing a pretty good job. That Bo Nix design run on 4th and 1 was nice.
That was some Sean Payton's like I got I got both like you said I have Taysom Hill in Bo Nix yeah he that he's running the Taysom Hill playbook and Bo Nix he's not a great passer yet he's not afraid to throw the ball uh but he's not very good at doing it no but he's better at passing than Taysom is yeah he's just not as physical of a runner but they're doing like the exact same plays that they used to do with Taysom. I'm looking at the schedule for Thursday Night Football.
We have a couple Vikings play next week, but it's at the Rams. Then we have Texans-Jets.
That's good. That's gross.
On Halloween, Texans at Jets. Okay, but that will be gross.
That's a good game on paper, but that will be a gross game because you know both defenses will just have their way, and it will be, like, frustrated Aaron Rodgers. And it's on Halloween, so there might be somebody in the stands that's dressed up as a fireman, and who knows if he's going to get on the Jumbotron.
Yeah, that's a great Sunday game and a bad Thursday game. I agree.
I agree. And then Bengals at Ravens.
That will be fun. That'll be fun.
Then we got Commanders at Eagles for a perm. Week 12 Steelers-Browns.
I'm looking forward to that one. Oh, yeah.
That one's going to be great. Can I take the under? All right.
What do you think? Let's guess the spread in advance. Thursday night, November 21st, Steelers at Browns Thursday night.
35 and a half if Deshaun's still playing. Is it going to be Russie or is it going to be Jussie? I think it's going to be back to Jussie.
Back to Jussie. I'm going to say, yeah, 34.
And I'm probably going to take the over and it's probably going to lose. Yeah, yeah.
All right, so we also had some playoff baseball happen. Unbelievable comeback by the Guardians.
They were down 2-0. They were down.
They were up 3-1. And then Klasse comes in, who has been their lights-out closer, blows the game.
Season's over. Down 3-0.
It's all for naught. It's back-to-back dingers by Judge and Stanton.
Yeah, and then the Guardians just hit two huge bombs, a walk-off and one in the ninth. Or no, was it the ninth? Two outs.
Two outs in the ninth. Down two.
That's the beauty of playoff baseball. It's like, do I think the Guardians are going to win this series? No, but that type of game, you just never know.
Do you see the video of the stadium? They got the audio reaction of the stadium from like a mile away. It was rock.
And it was sick. It was incredible.
The Guardians, I think they'll win one more game. I think the Yankees are the better team.
You said six.

I think whoever wins the next game.

Wait, but no, the series doesn't

start until the road team

wins a game, right? A-Rod taught me that.

I'm just happy for Guardians fans because

that felt like it was

just going to be doom and gloom, no chance

to even celebrate.

You beat the Tigers, obviously,

but then you go to the Yankees and you get swept

or losing five, but that was an awesome

I'm not going to be doom and gloom. No chance to even celebrate.
You know, you beat the Tigers, obviously, but then you go to the Yankees and you get swept or losing five.

But that was an awesome, awesome scene.

And now they got hope.

And now they got life.

Now they don't have to go back to the Browns.

Yeah.

And then the Mets are memes.

The game's not over.

It is seven to two. We still have three.
We we still have 3 3 what? more innings 9 more outs so if we are wrong if we're wrong up to this point we're dead I was going to say if we're wrong because the Thursday night football game was so bad, we're like, all right, we can just start recording. And this Mets-Dodgers game 7-2.
If we're wrong, before we get to our picks and preview, I want a solo three minutes of memes. Three minutes of memes just going like coward.
Just talking. Memes Francesa? Yeah, Memes Francesa.

You could do three minutes, memes. But I need it to be three minutes.

I don't want you to be like, you know,

what? And no Jets talk.

And you can't do karaoke tequila either.

Yeah. Okay.

I'll give Pug as a co-host. Oh yeah, Pug

can be your co-host. No, Pug should open

up the three minutes with 30

seconds of Pug. You know, I want Pug in memes in these seats.
Okay. Yeah.
That would be – I mean, now I'm kind of rooting for the Mets to come back. And if the Mets come back, then we should have seen that coming.
Yeah. Because this is what the Mets do.
That's true. But unfortunately, they didn't come back.
They lost. It feels like the Magic – the Dodgers are just too good and get too many – they have too many dudes.
And, like, I mean, it started with It started with Shohei hitting a bomb. That home run he hit on Wednesday night, he put it on the moon.
Out of the stadium. It was crazy.
Did they measure how far it went? I know it was the upper deck, like the middle of the upper deck, but was there a tape measure on there? Matt's going to look it up. Matt's going to look it up.
Matt's going to look it up. Because sometimes those balls that go into the upper deck, I expect them to come back and say there's a 470-foot home run, and they say it's like 390.
Yeah, because it's the height. Yeah, the height of it.
Height is overrated. I've always said that.
He's going to look it up. Matt said he's struggling.
Too many leadoff walks, though, for the Mets given to the Dodgers. And Shohei finally got a hit when there were no runners on base.
That was a weird stat that he had. Yeah, now he's 1-for-21.
1-for-21 in the playoffs with runners on base, which is crazy. At some point, you have to think about not having him hit leadoff, right? Yeah.
Yeah, you'd think so. What is it? What do we got? I'm struggling.
Max can't do it. He's struggling.
Go to StatCast. Just go to the box score.
Yeah, I realized that right when I said I was struggling. Come on, Max.
Come on, Max. All right, how far do you think it was, Big Cat? I think it was...
You're right. They always...

Those upper deckers are the best.

Oh, Spencer Rattler just threw...

Oh.

The most Jameis Winston interception

not ever thrown by Jameis Winston.

And the Broncos are going to score again.

I'm going to say it was 438.

Oh!

397?

That's bullshit!

That is bullshit, right?

That went halfway up the third deck.

That's wrong.

I don't trust that shit.

32-3 is a very funny score.

Ooh, maybe Squirigami?

I'm going to look up Squirigami.

Might be a Squirigami.

That would make everything so worth it.

33 is a tough number to hit.

That doesn't feel like a football number.

No.

33?

Because you get 34 sometimes.

31 makes sense. 35, obviously.
Spencer Rattler. I feel bad for Spencer Rattler.
He doesn't really – he's lost, like, his entire offensive line. Alave was out.
Shahid was out. Brutal.
I think they had eight starters out today. Yeah so they i think they had three actual starters on offense that were playing yeah um okay uh do we have anything else uh and maybe we'll maybe we'll have memes on in a second and not uh us no there's no chance there's no chance seems they gotta run around base it, memes.
I would love to see. If it gets tied, you still have to do it.
I'm in. Not even a win.
Yeah. Yeah, if it gets tied, that would be crazy if it got 7-7.
What would he talk about? He'd talk about them losing and coming all the way back. You'd have to do – it's three minutes of Mets content.
Three minutes of Mets content. Do you want to just do it anyway no no i kind of want to see it no pugging memes in the big chair i'm gonna be here i thought we were having an early night yeah all right okay all right let's let's kick it to ourselves let's talk some uh week seven nfl picks.
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Okay, boys, week seven in the NFL. We're ready to go.
A disclaimer before we start this week. and this is more of a PSA for everyone out there, but really for myself.
If you are sitting here and listening to this right now and you said to yourself, man, I crushed last weekend. I had it.
Well, not you, Hank. We know that.
I had the best weekend of the year. I'm smart.
I know this league. I know exactly what's going to happen.

Just remember that on Monday it was reported that it was the worst weekend

Vegas has had in like 20 years.

Really makes me feel like a sucker.

It was one of the best weekends for favorites of all time.

Yeah.

It was crazy.

So this is a trap weekend.

Watch out.

Don't fall for the traps.

Come in your trap.

Take your trap. Yeah.
Kirk Cousins. Memes.
How do fall for the traps. Come in your trap.
Take your trap.

Yeah.

Kirk Cousins.

Memes.

How do you feel about screwing that quote up and how many times did people get mad at

you online?

Which quote?

The Kirk Cousins one.

Come in your trap.

Steal your trap.

Take your trap.

Come in your trap.

Take your trap.

Come in your trap.

Pull out of your trap.

Take your trap.

Come on.

It was messed up.

Well, you said Kirk Cousins talking about his upcoming game in Seattle.

He was talking about his game in.

Wait, whoa.

Tony Bennett is retiring.

Breaking moves.

The singer.

Breaking moves.

Virginia head coach Tony Bennett is retiring.

How about that?

What the hell?

Man.

Memes off the hook.

So is Virginia going to be fun this year?

I don't know.

They can't.

They can't do that quickly.

You can't do a switch, right?

No.

You can't just switch up your style.

No.

That's a weird out of nowhere retirement right before the season.

And then who's going to take his spot and is probably going to be an assistant, right?

Yeah.

I always wanted Tony Bennett to come to to come come to wisconsin but uh wow tony bennett retiring okay uh memes uh comments on the screwing up of that quote uh i'll take full accountability okay okay good all right good i'll take full accountability uh there's a trust issue with when i stuff to Shane. Oh, no.
And I didn't overlook it when sending, and that happens. Did you send, talking about his upcoming game in Seattle? I sent him the video.
Oh, and Shane editorialized. But you're going to take accountability.
Because I press send, I just didn't read it. It was walk into your trap, take over your trap.

Yeah, he was talking about the Panthers game.

That was the main quote.

Kirk Cousins has become the most Atlanta guy in the world.

I love it.

I love it.

Yes.

Nothing brings me more joy than just seeing, like, after a game when Kirk Cousins puts

on his little, like, mascot chains.

Yeah.

And everybody, like, claps for him.

Like, look at our little boy jumping around.

It's the best.

It's the best.

He does the Taylor Swift dance, the swag surf.

Yeah, swag and surf.

Okay, so London.

Let's start there.

Hank, will you be waking up for this game?

Yes, bro.

Yes.

Yes, bro.

The whole game.

You're on London time.

Drake May in London going up against the Jaguars.

How are we feeling? This is a trap game. You said this is the trap week.
I don't know. I don't think the Patriots have a trap game.
Yeah, neither can the Jaguars. Yeah, it's untrappable.
But the Jaguars are. I guess the Jaguars could be a trap game, but not against another one in five team.
But the Jaguars are rested. That's true.
But you knew that. So that's a trap that you's a trap that you know about.
But I think people are... I'm just worried that, you know...
The Jaguars are favorites, aren't they? Yeah, they are 5.5 points. Can that be a trap game if you're an underdog? Trap games are the Patriots.
Yeah, that doesn't make sense. You can't have a trap game if you're an underdog.
There's a lot of people out there, I'm sure, that are like... The Patriots, Drake May looked really good.
Explosive offense. But you lost by 20.
The Jagu terrible, but there was some, there was some fluky turnovers. Okay.
Jaguars are bad. This is going to be Drake Mays coming out show.
And I'm just worried that, you know, the travel, you know, the Jaguars being acclimated, not traveling. I'm just worried that, you know, people think that this is going to be Drake Mays coming out party and it just might not be yet.
God. Okay.
Are these people in the room with us right now? No, I'm prepared for the trap. I'm not falling into that trap.
You're not going to fall into the trap? Are you going to take over the trap? Not the London trap. I think that Drake Mays is going to have a good game.
Are you worried about his health? He got an MRI. That was a scary...
Was that a real story? Yes. Who reported it?

I thought a lot of people did.

I saw last night the Patriots reporter Ben Volan, I think, was the one who reported it.

No one else reported it except him.

I just saw that he took an MRI and then after there's no concerns after the MRI.

And then I saw a tweet from an account saying, Mr. Fill Me Up, who said, I DM Ben Volan and told him Drake May had an MRI.
Hope this helps. So it might have been.
It could have been a fake MRI. He might have eaten the trash.
It might have been a fake MRI or a fake MRI story. Drake May was a full participant at practice.
There is no great concern regarding his injury. And NFL Network's insiders, Ian Rapport, Mike Garofalo.
That that was the follow-up that they i think only one guy reported that he had an mri may was on the patriots injury report yeah so the team actually listed him on there with a knee injury the patriots would never play fast and loose with the league's injury policy they did not deny him having an mri but they did not confirm it either correct that would be funny though funny, though, if he got caught. Probably just some guy being like, hey, Kurt, you got an MRI.
I think the Patriots are going to be a live dog here. So I don't know how the Jaguars are favored.
By five and a half over anyone. That's a lot.
It's a lot. You know what it sounds like? A trap.
A trap to take the Jaguars. No, because they shouldn't be favored by five.
If this line was three, I'd be like, oh, that makes sense. They're five and a half point favorites over the Jaguars are bad.
Which is why you see that. You're like, the Jaguars are bad.
I'm going to take the Patriots. But the Patriots are also bad.
You're forgetting that part of this equation. You keep saying Jaguars are a trap game, but the Patriots are equally as bad.
I think you're just explaining how the line makes no sense. What's happening inside.
Because the Jaguars are really bad. What's happening inside Hank's head is that Hank is thinking about the Patriots as a collective football team that he knows, and the Jaguars as a collective football team that he knows.
And he's like, why are the Jaguars favored by five and a half? I think the Jaguars should be favored by five and a half over anyone, but the Patriots are also bad.

I know.

I don't think you can.

It can't be a trap game if you're an underdog.

Let me just.

You struggle with me.

Sound it out.

No, I know.

Sound it out.

Sound it out.

Okay.

Big Cat.

Dan Katz.

I think this line makes no sense.

The Jaguars shouldn't be favored five and a half versus anyone. The Patriots are going to be live dogs.
So it sounds like you're going to bet the Patriots. Yeah, which probably that might be...
No, it's not a trap. I'm going to take the Patriots.
Hank's talking about... That's the trap.
Hank is hypothesizing that there's a double trap. So we should take the Jaguars.
Yes. Okay.
That's my point. Got it.
I think you might be trapping yourself. You might be trapping yourself.
No, you guys just explain my whole point. All right.
So when we first started this conversation, we said trap game. I was thinking like a good team going to play a bad team overlooking them.
That's the trap game. You're just talking strictly on the line.
That's a trap. Yeah.
You're overlooking how bad the Patriots are because the Jaguars are also bad. Okay.
Now it makes sense. So now I've got to take the Jaguars.
So you're going to take the Patriots, but I don't think that's the right move. I have a positive Trevor Lawrence stat.
Well, not positive, but more in Trevor Lawrence's defense. I think I have the same stat.
Yeah, the amount of drops. Yep.
Yeah, so Trevor Lawrence, since coming into the league in 2021, the Jaguars have dropped 113 passes per ESPN research, most in the league, and 21 more than the second-place team, Kansas City. That's insane.
It's also crazy that Kansas City has the second one. How many of those are Kadarius Tony? Yeah, true.
We have to account for that. Also, I read something pretty interesting about Kansas City and their drop rate the other day.
People think that their lights were fucked up for the last seven years. The the night games in the stadium oh really the light frequency however like whatever uh like i don't even know what you call it but it was a type of light that didn't provide it was almost like a mini strobe effect and it fucked up every single receiver that played there okay and it was only in the night games and it was for every team that was like statistically an outlier to every other night stadium so that might explain part of it also cadarious tony also cadarious tony but yeah that is it's something not bad for trevor lawrence like i've seen a lot of drops especially this year yeah his receivers have dropped some easy catches and easy touchdowns can i just say one thing about it because there were some jaguars fans being like the jaguars dropped four touchdowns against the bears would have been a different Three of them were on the same drive.
You can't score three touchdowns on one drive. Yeah, that's a seven-point swing.
Yeah. But they did drop a lot of balls.
I said it on Sunday after the game. I said exactly that.
The Jaguars dropped a lot of balls, and Trevor Lawrence is not getting any favors. What about Sisko talking about quitting? Yeah.
So his teammates seem to kind of have his back. So Andre Sisko after the game said feel like should i say this a lot of quit there was a lot of quit out there we weren't playing as one you don't like to use the q word there are two words you don't like to use in football the q word and the s word for soft um so when he said that we quit at first i was like sounds kind of weird to say that about your team but then I thought about it and I was like well he's not wrong no definitely not wrong he's not wrong about it I feel like his teammates were kind of in that same mindset where they're like yeah we fucking quit last week yeah and uh I think this game comes down to does anyone in that locker room like or feel good about Doug Peterson because if they do, they have to win this game to save his job.

But if they don't and want to quit, like you kind of can get out of it

because he's going to get fired if he loses this game, right?

Possible mutiny.

Yeah.

Oh, we know about that, Hank.

Are you afraid of a mutiny?

No.

Hank, so I think Jake Ray's going to look good.

The Jaguars defense is bad.

I hope so.

I hope he's well-rested.

He gets, you know, no funky stuff with the layover or anything.

Yeah.

When did they travel?

I don't know.

Got to look into that.

The Jaguars are acclimated.

So what's your pick, Hank?

My pick in this game?

Yeah.

I have to make one?

No.

Over.

Okay.

All right.

I like that.

Wembley.

Wembley Stadium.

They have a half retractable roof.

So is it going to rain this weekend there, Mames?

Makes no sense.

I think so.

So half of the field.

It's going to rain on half the field?

Half the field will be rain.

I want to look up what the first half or first quarter line is even.

Because the Patriots, I think they might be the worst team in the league in the first quarter.

What about the second and third and fourth? Well, that's different stories. Different quarter.
But this would be the ultimate first quarter. Because it does include, like, if you see a team that's sleepwalking over there, where they're still getting acclimated to time.
And the Jaguars did win this spot last year against the Bills. Remember their second London game? And the Bills were pretty good last year, and they beat the Bills.
So, yeah, I guess. Fuck.
I think Hank was right.

I think this is a trap for the Patriots.

Well, it's a trap for us.

They're 1-5 teams.

It's a trap for us.

Okay.

So, yeah, are you finding it out?

I'm looking.

When do they go?

What do you got, memes?

Or max?

60% rain now.

60% rain, but that's 30% rain with a half-retractable roof.

Correct. I think they did that right.
Half-retractable roof. I don't really understand it.
Oh, Max, it means you threw something. That's like SoFi, right? Yeah.
Well, no, the lightning can come in. The lightning comes in, yeah.
All right, Hank, find that for us. We'll go to the next game, okay? Seahawks at Falcons.
Seahawks at Falcons. I kind of like the Seahawks in this game.
I think that the Seahawks, their defense isn't that far away. They've been injured.
Yeah, they're dealing with a shitload of injuries, and they give up a lot of big plays. I feel like that's a symptom of having a brand new defensive system that they're running with McDonald.
But I feel like they're not far away, because when they're not letting up the big plays, they're actually not that bad against the run. This also feels like a Hungry Dog Runs Faster game where you have the Seahawks on a three-game losing streak.
And the one thing that I could point positive to Seahawks, well, actually two things. One is from my friends at Sports Info Solutions.
The Seahawks love to run plays against middle of the field open cover two or four. The Falcons run a lot of that.
So there should be, Geno should be good today or Sunday. Also, the Falcons have no pass rush whatsoever.
They are averaging less than a sack a game. They didn't sack Andy Dalton once last week against the Panthers.
Does feel like every Seahawks game we've watched the last few weeks, Geno Smith has been running for his life and been under pressure constantly. He might have some more time this week.
I like the Seahawks. Yeah, he hasn't really been taking sacks, but he's been having to move around a lot and then just dumping the ball off or throwing it out of bounds and just firing something off that's not on target.
Remember Matthew Judon? Yeah. He's on the Falcons.
He is. Remember the guardrails? I do remember the guardrails.
The guardrails were huge for this. Yeah, so I feel like the Seahawks are close.
They're not good. Their defense, don't get me wrong, their defense, especially their rush defense, is not good.
I think it's the worst in the history of the Seattle Seahawks right now. But what I'm saying is they're not far from being good.
Yeah. They just got to fix a couple things.
And the Falcons do run the ball well. I like the Seahawks in this spot.
I like the Falcons overall for the rest of the year. But I've also retracted my take.
I've done some soul searching about the Bucs. I apologize for saying the Bucs aren't very good.
It is 100% Che bias. Yeah.
I mean, I can read you like a book. I know these things.
I know the deep-seated hatred. I sat with Che for an entire game watching him, and it just sits with you, and it really eats away at you.
Let me say, I get it. Yeah.
I get it. Everyone gets it.
It's not fun. People who watch our streams get it.
There's an unnamed executive at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who went informed that I would be much more of a Bucs fan if it wasn't for Stephen Che. Yeah.
Informed me that they're willing to part ways with Stephen Che as a Bucs fan if it means that they can open up the big tent to getting people in the band because I love Mike Evans I love Baker Mayfield I love I love Chris Godwin I love Vita Vey I love Bucky I love Bucky Levante David I love all these guys yeah they're a fun team lot of people. Che screws it for all of us.
Okay. Titans at Bills.
Amari Cooper, now on the Bills. He said that it's always funny because you forget Cleveland and Buffalo are very close together.
So he drove to Buffalo from Cleveland when traded, and he said he had a lot to think about. Said Josh Allen plays a lot of grit grit and hustle called him one of the league's best top quarterbacks to play with him was re is really cool and he said that it felt like the first day of school again driving from cleveland to buffalo that's awesome i i'm excited first days wait wait first day school not no first day school is fun yeah because you get your new fit yeah you got your new on.
You get to see all the people you haven't seen over the summer.

You go in there and you act all big and bad.

Second day, syllabus week, not that fun before you get to college.

Yeah, and I love the internet.

I hate the internet for a lot of reasons.

I love the internet for the random, hey, someone just thought of this game.

Josh Allen has thrown a pass to a completion to Amari Cooper.

Did you see that clip going around?

It was in a week 11 game between the Bills and the Browns, and he threw one to the sideline, and Amari Cooper one-handed it. And the best part about the clip is the game was happening at Ford Field.
Oh, I love that. Because of the snowstorm.
Yeah, I remember that one. So it's the most random clip ever to be like, look, Josh Allen and Amari Cooper have a connection.
I feel like this is where people are going to get sick of the Bills glazing.

But I feel like this is a great move for the Buffalo Bills.

Yeah.

And this is also, I feel like this might be a smash spot for the Bills.

The Titans, I can't keep believing in the Titans. I keep doing it and I just, I got to quit them.

I'm quitting them.

I'm going cold turkey on the Titans.

I'm going to say, I'm going to call it right now.

This is the weekend where Josh throws an interception.

Oh.

But I think the Bills are going to win.

Hunter's start too.

Yeah, I think it would be good for Josh to get that first one out of the way.

I just, I'm done with the Titans.

I'm done.

It's probably smart.

Can't do it.

Can't do it anymore.

Done with the Titans.

Bengals at Browns.

This is going to be a fun game. Not really.
Not really, yeah. Okay, here's why it's going to be fun.
Let me pitch you on Bengals and Browns. Murray Cooper got traded.
The vibes in Cleveland could not be worse except for the fact that Nick Chubb is back, and I've watched multiple videos now. I think three different videos of Nick Chubb, whether it be going out to the practice field for the first time.
He did a press conference the other day. This team loves Nick Chubb as much as they hate Deshaun Watson.
Yeah, Nick Chubb is the best. It was basically he was standing at the podium getting ready to talk to the reporters.
And all the guys, they must have been walking in a hallway. And they all were just screaming like, Chubb's back, 2-4, 2-4, four and all this stuff i think that you will maybe get a one game bounce from nick chubb being in that huddle and i might only run the ball 10 times but just they needed something to change the vibes nick chubb changes it for a game i kind of like the browns gets spread it nick chubb is a very easy guy to root for yeah and uh i've been watching some of his mic'd ups where he's on the he's got he's wearing the wire and he steps out on the field and then the video goes for like two minutes and Nick Chubb still hasn't said anything yeah he's the best guy in the NFL to mic up yeah I hope they have him wearing the wire this time because it's just him breathing grunting and then that's it that's all he does out there he's gonna be fun it's gonna be fun to have him back the browns have not scored 20 points or had 200 yards passing in the game maybe it changes this week also here's what's wild about that you said 20 points the last two home games that the browns have had against the bangles they've won by 19 or more points oh so they do own the they own the bangles they own the bangles yeah um kevin savanski also uh nick chubb did a really good piece in the players tribune he was talking about his injury his leg atrophying to a point where he said his leg was his uh the size of his arm which his arm is really big too big big leg but kevin savanski told uh reporters that nick chubb is a better journalist than all of you better football player too better journalist didn't have to add the football player well technically not a journal he's a blogger yeah kevin but i like the football player being added just looking at a bunch of like journalists being like nick chubbs a better football player than you guys yeah probably accurate yeah uh but i still believe in the bengals they'll probably win this game i just think it's gonna be tighter than we expect and uh yeah the bengals this is where where the Bengals, they're in must-win territory, especially against the team that they are on paper, on the field, everything better than.
Yeah, so the Browns, I want to bet on the Browns this weekend. I know that's very stupid, but you gave me a reason with Nick Chubb coming back.
It's vibes. They've been the worst vibes ever in the NFL this season.
Deshaun Watson continues to set records for just all the stats. You can find any bad quarterback stat, and Deshaun Watson will be number one across the board in all of them.
I feel like this is all lining up. The Browns, Bengals, we know how that's gone recently.
Nick Chubb coming back. It's at home.
I think I like the Browns. Will I be man enough to bet on the Browns this weekend? I don't know.
I think I'm going to be, and it's going to be scary as all hell. Texans at Packers.
I got something I got to say to the Packers, and this actually comes from a place of respect. So hear me out.
The Packers going with the all-white uniforms and all-white helmets are a disgusting affront to football. Color rush.
It's a disgusting affront to football. The Green Bay Packers, hear me out.
The Green Bay Packers, and I hate them. I hate them.
Can you use the proper term for it, though? It's the winter warning. The winter warning.
I hate the Packers, but their football jerseys and color scheme are football. That's classic football.
They are a franchise 100 years old. They have all this history.
They should never do any type of gimmicky alternate bullshit. They have a uniform.
It's like changing Alabama's uniform or Penn State's uniform. Don't do it.
The Packers have a uniform that works. Don't change the helmet.
If you're a Packers fan, you should be disgusted by this. I think that this is...
Disgusted. It's disgusting.
And the whole franchise, it's disgusting. I think that this is an appropriate uniform to wear in a late December game at Lambeau Field when it's snowing.
Yeah. That would rock.
Do you know what the temperature is going to be at Lambeau Field this weekend? Yeah. You can't have the winter warning jerseys on when it's 74 degrees outside.
This matchup, this uniform matchup stinks. What are you going to say, Max? You like it? Yeah.
The Packers jerseys are sick. No, they aren't.
The green – no. All right.
The jerseys are fine. This would rock in a snowstorm.
The jerseys are fine. You can't do the white helmet.
It's probably not going to happen in mid-October, Drew. I think we to turn this game on and we're going to look at this matchup and be like, this is a sick uniform.
I would never say that, first of all. Their regular helmet is a great helmet.
They should never change it. Max, it's impossible to turn on a Texans game and say this is a great all-time uniform matchup.
They don't have the history. Nothing against the Texans uniforms.
I think the Texans ones are going to look cool, too. I don't want to be a snob here, but throwback uniforms.
We made a song about color. Yeah, color rushes for Thursday night.
Throwback uniforms are for the Jaguars. They're for the Titans.
They're for the Texans. Great.
Not even throwback. Alternate, weird, funky uniforms.
They're not for the Green Bay Packers. I'm actually doing Packers fans a service because I'm speaking up for them.
You should be disgusted by this. I'm going to take the Packers in this game.
I don't like the fact that it's going to be so nice outside wearing these uniforms. Yeah.
I really don't. I think it's going to be very strange looking.
I'm excited to watch this game, though. This is going to be maybe the funnest game of the weekend.

It's a measuring stick game.

For both teams.

For who?

Both teams.

See how they measure up against each other?

Both teams.

The Texans only lost is in the NFC North.

The Packers, now that Jordan Love is healthy.

He also won the MVP last week, which hurt me very much so.

But yeah, I think we're going to walk away.

If one team can beat the other soundly, oh shit watch out i think both teams are very good i think they're both capable of beating each other soundly soundly yeah soundly uh i think the texans have some defensive injuries they're working through well they got uh this award this is kind of interesting mario edwards jr he just got suspended four games for peds and so he's out but they're getting back to nico autry who's coming back after serving six games of his own for peds is brian cushing still in that building i don't know but it's a great great idea if you're the texans they might be onto something the texans might have this like a calendar giant calendar set up where they have their guys go on like a regiment of steroids in cycles. So it's like right when one guy gets popped, the other guy gets clean, comes back.
Yeah. Then he starts using, he gets popped.
The other guy comes back. Yes.
Pretty smart. That is smart.
You keep them fresh, keep them fresh. Yeah.
Jimmy Ward is out. Yeah.
I, I, I, I like to pack up. I, this game's gonna be tough.
I'm going to, I'm going to text our friend, Aaron Nagler and ask him he thinks about these Packers uniforms. I'm going over.
I'm going over. Those are over uniforms.
You know that by looking at it, right? Yeah. Like, it might not be appealing on the eye to see those white uniforms in 70-degree weather.
What, Max? It's so appealing on the eye. It's such a great uniform.
In the snow, it would rock. I think, regardless.
It'd be like camouflage. It'd be very cool.
I think once you turn the game on, you're going to be like,

those uniforms are set up.

Color rush is great.

You're not a historian of the game like we are.

I think these are over uniforms, though.

Thank you, Memes.

Over uniforms sounds like good uniforms.

No, but an over uniforms, there's a big difference between over uniforms

and a great uniform matchup.

Great uniform matchup could be the Steelers and the Raiders, and that's not hitting the over. That's a pretty basic matchup.
What, Steelers-Raiders? I mean, that's a classic uniform matchup. It's classic.
Yeah. All right, I think Aaron Nagler actually agrees.
They're boring, he said. Yeah, they are.
That's the opposite of what you're saying. Well, they're boring, and they're also, you should never change a classic uniform.
That's really what it comes down to. But he didn't say that.
He sent me a video that he did, so I'll have to. Okay.
All right, fine, play the video. I'm going to send it to you.
Let's hear it. This is from the actual Packers.
We'll get this settled once and for all. These are the guys that actually live and breathe Packer football.
I'll tell you right now, if you're listening for X's and O's, find a new show, we're getting deep in uniforms. That's what we do.
That's what we do. It's also hard to tell when the Texans are wearing alternate uniforms.
Are those black? You could never tell. Are those black or dark blue? Who cares? Who knows? I think I would like this uniform matchup if those were actually black.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think I like any of the white, the yin and the yang.
I don't think I like any of their uniforms. I'm actually coming around to the new ones.
The H-Town Blues? Yeah, I'm coming around to those. H-Town Blues? I don't think the Texans have ever worn black.
They're blue. If you look at that uniform right there, it might be black.
I don't know. Alright, here we go.
This is from Aaron Agler, Cheesehead TV, and his co-host. Let's see what they say.
This is where the Green Bay Packers will be wearing their winter warning uniforms. I heard there's a little bit of controversy around this.
They're not very good good quality or something. Oh.
I know. It's like the merch line just isn't cool.
That was my thing. You can talk about they should have done this with the helmets or they should have put it in prime time, which that I totally agree with because it would have popped.
It would have looked so cool at night. Agreed.
Agreed. Because this whole thing is a money grab.
It's all about creating more merch, right? Yeah, you need more skews. And they want to.
More skews equals more dollars. More skews.
We do that here, too. We did the Romeo.
Exactly. I get the gig.
I understand it, man. I totally get it.
But then make the stuff cool. It is the plainest, boringest one.
To be honest with you, that's what I hear. Most nondescript nonsense.
That's what a lot of people complain about, the women's stuff, too. They have a lot of women's stuff, but it's not cool that's not it's a different argument yeah but we got to the same point no we got to the same point i think he makes a good point though that if this was at night and you have those uniforms it looks a lot better i i it would not look better at night but i still think it'll look good during the day not in the bright hot sun we ended up at the same spot.
Okay. We did.
We both hate the uniforms

for different reasons. I think

the Packers should just cease to exist after

doing something like this to the gods of football.

Vince Lombardi would be rolling in his grave

right now. All 5'2 of them.

Very short. Was he really 5'2? Yeah, people don't

talk about it. He was very short, man.
That's crazy.

I don't know if he's actually 5'2, but he's very short, man.

I'm going to look that up. Very short, man.

Okay.

That was some good analysis.

It is weird to wear winter warning uniforms when it's 72 degrees outside. 5'8".
No, that's good. No way he was 5'8".
There's no way he was 5'8". Okay.
He's basically a regular-sized human being, especially in that era. No, he's 5'2".
Half of a man. Anti-Italian discrimination.
Dolphins, his base, Vince Lombardi's basement bar was like, that's one of those things that I wish still existed more in the world. The basement bar.
People don't have basement bars. He just had a bar in his basement? Yeah.
I feel like a lot of dudes have that. Yeah, but it's like all...
Maybe it's the fact that it's now like a man cave with a million TVs. I'm talking like it was just like a...
You just went there to lean up on the bar and drink. Yeah.
You did nothing else. The modern man cave has become like, come see the room in my house that my wife lets me have.
Right. And then I put stuff on the wall that I see advertised in commercials that explicitly use the term man cave and it's also it feels like the modern man cave is is for instagram and not for comfortability you know what i mean it's like look at this i got turf field on the on in the basement and all these jerseys it was like dude what about just a really fucking old nice couch you can sit on and watch tv yeah my buddy bought a shed and then he just built a bar in his shed and he just goes out and gets hammered in the shed and turns a red light on for the neighbors to come over when the red light's on that means come drink beer in my shed that's that's man shit is your buddy named mike florio it's not mike florio he does do that with his barn he's got a barn yeah he's got a barn uh okay dolphins and cults i want to take the dolphins as long as anthony rich has started.
Okay, let me tell you a reason why not to. Okay.
He cut his hair. He cut all his hair off.
Does that change the fact that he's literally the last in completion percentage from inside a clean pocket? It might. Nick Sirianni shaved his head and then he won.
Barely. Barely, that's true.
And he also freak out anthony richardson might freak out this week it does feel like a step back to not have flacco starting maybe that's just my excitement yeah i i don't know i i also think tyler huntley off the bye the dolphins ran the ball more last week they were going to maybe lean into that being like hey we can't run the two offenses to coming back uh yes i believe he's planning on it he's not allowed to come back till october 23rd do the dolphins have any prime time games i have might be like they might have to do the warning uh when you're scrolling instagram it's like do you want to see this graphic nature information that may be harmful to your mental psyche right now i i think they can flex too we're in we're in flex territory yeah but yeah two is not allowed to come back until the 23rd that's to practice that's not a game that's to practice yeah not a game uh what memes it looks like they have two primetime games oh no uh one coming up against the rams on november 11th oh no so that could be tua and that's a prime time game and they also play prime time it looks like against the packers okay okay um yeah i don't know i i just am not a believer in anthony richardson i get it people do believe in him but if joe flacco was starting this game i'd hammer the colts yeah i'm going to i'm going to bet the colts regardless of who's starting i think that's how little i believe in whoever the backup happens to be that's trying to fill to his role in this offense so i feel like they they just don't know like to a like him who knows if two would be a good quarterback for any other team but he works for the dolphins yeah he's like perfect for them and nobody else can come in and do any of the stuff that he's done they just look completely lost but i think they're going to try to maybe do not the same stuff like they're going to try to run the ball more be like hey tyler huntley you're not to uh you would think so right you would think so that's what i was thinking last week with tyler huntley i was like well they did they ran it 41 times yeah they they also looked like shit though yeah they They did. What are we going to do about these tickets? We got Colts tickets this weekend to give away.
Dolphins. Let's see.
Why don't we give it to a Colts fan named Frank? Okay. Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, I like that. So Frank, any Frank Colts fan named Frank? Francis? No, Frank.
Got to be in Frank. I mean, they could legally be Francis, but they go by Frank.
They go by Frank. They got to be going by Frank.
Yeah. And you have to wear glasses.
Yep. And chew on them.
Yep. Yeah.
Okay. If your name's Frank and you're a Colts fan, send us a picture of you chewing on your glasses.
And then their tickets are yours. Tag, pardon my, what should we do? Pardon my take or part of my meme uh part of my take part of my part of my meme part of my meme and part of my tag part of my name but it has to be tagged to part of my meme and also memes got xbox codes for uh some new games call of duty yeah call of duty so hit them up and next year's college football game yeah hit them up do tweet him tweet him asking pardon my meme hashtag memes yeah and say memes can i please have a uh a code for playstation or xbox yeah we have them all yeah and you have them all i have them all yeah yeah you have them all slide into his dms yeah pull up uh okay the game of Texans-Packers, probably the second best game in the early slate.
Lions-Vikings I'm most excited for. Yeah, that's going to be so fun.
So, so fun. I actually – I still believe in the Lions.
Aiden Hutchinson, not good. I understand that if you're a Lions fan, probably pretty upset, and you're like, what does this mean for a season? I still think that the Lions, they can make it happen because their offense is good enough they'll figure it out i'm a believer in the lions long term i don't know about this game because i really do think that that that cowboys game they were like they had that circled you could tell they had it circled it was an emotional game uh jared goff gave got a game ball from dan camp.
Then he gave it back to Dan Campbell. Well, it's because I don't think Jared got the game ball last week, right? Yeah, or something like that.
And Dan Campbell forgot, and then he felt bad. He's like, I got to get Jared a game ball now.
And then Jared gave it back to him. Which I love.
Yeah, but it was like you could see the locker room. That was an emotional win.
Losing Aiden Hutchins is an emotional letdown. Vikings off a bye.
I don't know. I just also have another stat for you from Sports Info Solutions.
Vikings are third best in the NFL defending runs out of the 12 personnel, allowing 3.1 yards a carry. That's what the Lions like to do the most in the NFL.
Okay. So it's just i just like the spot for the vikings also here's a stat for you ready for this justin jefferson has 1037 receiving yards in eight career games against the lions that's the most by anyone in nfl history against one team in eight games that's pretty crazy that's is, yeah.
That's a lot of yards. The receivers are, you can't cover everybody on the Vikings.
You just can't. And so if you have good Sam Darnold, then you're going to give up some points.
What do you think about the Lions? Maybe not Max Crosby. What about Hassan Redick? Yeah.
I think they called about him. They did, yeah.
Didn't we talk talk about this but then they have to give up a second round pick oh because of the nfc yeah yeah good point why they're probably not going to trade i think if there's any team in the nfl that's able to get over an emotional loss to the leader of your defense it's probably detroit lions i feel like dan campbell is the right guy i don't know when i because so many shows. Oh, I think it was on the rundown.
I threw out this idea and Jerry Jones will never do it. But trade Micah Parsons.
Yeah. He's not going to do that, but you have to pay him.
And your, your problem right now is you're, it seems like you have lack of depth going forward. What's going to happen.
Yeah. You locked up Dak.
You locked up CD. You're going to, you're going to have to pay Micah Parsons.
You could probably get a lot for him. I don't even know if the Lions would do it, but if I were Jerry Jones, like reload on draft picks and trade Micah Parsons.
That would be such an emasculating birthday to have the Lions come in, kick your ass to the point where you're like, we don't deserve to have this beautiful man on our defense. We need to trade him to the team that just kicked.
He'd be happier with them. Just throwing it out there.
Not saying there's no sourcing, nothing. I was just thinking about it.
Again, this is under the assumption that Jerry Jones would operate. He doesn't have a lot of years left, so he's probably not going to operate in a long-term approach because that would be a smart long-term move to trade Micah Parsons and get a haul for him right now before you have to pay him

and then reload that way but knowing just a little bit about human psyche the fact that you just gave Dak a big contract the fact you just paid CeeDee Lamb it's going to be a a tough hill to climb to admit that you're not all in right now yeah that you're all they're not all they're all in my ass All in my ass.

All in my ass.

I also want to watch if Aaron Jones plays.

That's going to be important. So they just signed, or did they trade for Cam Akers? Traded for Cam Akers.
Yeah. Whose last game was in Minnesota.
Yeah. He played for the, I think he was inactive last week, and then the Texans played in Minnesota, so that's kind of a fun wrinkle.
So Aaron Jones was at practice.

I don't know if he practiced, but he was at practice.

Okay.

So take for that what you will.

But I feel like picking up Cam Akers makes it seem like he's going to be out for a little bit.

Yeah.

And Aaron Jones is very good.

Yes. And you probably don't want Sam Donald throwing him 45 times a game.

Yeah.

Aaron Jones returned to practice on Thursday.

He was at practice.

He was at practice.

Did he practice, or was he just there today?

Limited. Vikings running back Aaron Jones returned to practice, Thursday.
He was at practice. He was at practice.
Did he practice, or was he just there today? Limited?

Vikings running back Aaron Jones returned to practice,

according to Pioneer Press.

Did he have an MRI?

Did fill me up, maybe DM someone.

Seeing him back on the field after not participating on Wednesday is a good sign.

Okay.

Okay.

That is a good sign.

That's a great sign.

But let the record show I am unwavering in my support

from the Detroit Lions.

I am as well.

I think they'll be okay.

I mean, it sucks.

I, I, I'm going to have to flip the switch. You're going to have to waver.
I'm going to have to flip the switch. Yeah.
I'm going to have to flip the switch and start poking holes at everyone to try to make myself feel better. That's kind of what sports are.
You got to bring everyone else down to try to elevate yourself. I got a question for you, Big Cat.
Is this the coordinator matchup of the week? Flores versus Ben Johnson? Yeah. I feel like it is.
It is. I feel like this is coordinator matchup of the week.
Let's see. Let's see.
Yeah, it might be the coordinator matchup of the week. Yeah.
I think without a doubt, this might be the best coordinator matchup in the NFL all season. Yeah, it's going to be a great coordinator matchup.
This is great. This is good stuff.
It's our coordinator game of the week. The problem I have with what Ben Johnson did last week at the Cowboys is just I don't know what else he's got in his bag.
Well, that was my whole point about the emotion. That was an empty the clip game.
And what happens after you empty the clip you go to shoot nothing's there click click yeah the fact that that you ran the play with panace sewell catching the lateral tells me that you're probably not that that has to be your most creative play that you have right oh i'm sure he's got more so that's maybe he does but i'm a little probably like panace sewell laterally to frank rag now i'm a little bit worried that he emptied the clip. Yeah.
How many shots were there? Do you feel lucky? A lot of shots. Okay, Eagles and Giants.
Saquon revenge game. Saquon had a story on ESPN, I believe, where he's like, I don't think they'll boo.
I had to read it like three times. Yeah.
That is a big question. I think they're going to boo.

Well, if you're a Giants fan, you probably lived and breathed this entire saga with Saquon. And you know that he wanted to be a Giant.

And then you know that the front office decided to franchise Saquon, give a contract to Danny Jones.

And then eventually, like, yeah, the guy just went to a team that paid him more money. Yeah.
more money i just thought i thought that was i feel like that's wishful thinking being like i don't think they're gonna boo i think there will be some fans that boo i think there will be a smattering of boo i think it's going to be 30 booze and then 70 people standing silently next to the people that are booing saying hey man he was a great player for us but for us. But you got to remember, there's, so, if the game's in New York, there's still probably going to be like 30% Philly fans there.
Make the drive up? They also could boo. But they wouldn't be booing Saquon.
They might be booing Saquon. Yeah, right.
You might have to up your boo. Good sports town.
50-50 boo? No, Saquon wouldn't get booed. But he might.

No, there's no way to Saquon.

But Max, it's also like, think about it.

If you're an Eagles fan and you're going to this game at MetLife

and you hear boos, your natural reaction is going to just start

joining in on the boos.

No, Saquon wouldn't get booed.

Everyone likes Saquon in Philly.

There's levels to it.

There's like pre-boo. There's no boo.
No boo. It's a great sushi place.
No boo, yeah. Pre-boo, and then current boo.
Now boo. So wait, break that down to me? There's pre-boo.
What's pre-boo? There's no boo. That's sometimes more potent than booing.
No boo is no boo. There's no boo.
No boo. Yeah, like this guy is not goinged he's in no he's in no danger of getting boo then there's pre no boo's for instagram all right so he's like we're feeling about where yeah then there's like there's like it's like this guy's on the verge of possibly getting it's like a it's like a dog with a bark in their throat you can see them about to bark you're like that's a that's a fat philly guy who's got a boo in his throat great albums right yeah so when when you the first guy that boos is there ever a guy that boos too soon no it's like a collective thing like so all it takes is all it takes is one guy to start and then everybody else has to join in would you not agree max that if if you if someone just started booing around you your instinct would be be, let me join in on this boo.
What is this, first take? No. We got to test this.
We're going to forget. I'm going to set a secret reminder, and we're going to try to test this out later on.
At some point, just start booing around Max and watch him just instinctively be like, where are we booing? Let's boo. No, no, no.

I don't think that the majority of Giants fans are going to boo Saquon,

but I do think that if he fumbles, everyone's going to cheer extra loud

for that fumble.

Which counts as a boo.

Kind of a boo.

It's a sarcastic cheer.

No.

Saquon, no boo.

Just no boo.

What's the Drake line?

Drake line, no boo.

Something Malibu.

Nobu.

How do you feel about this game?

Bad.

We lose in New York every time now, and New York just keeps dunking on me

that I just keep thinking I'm going to get dunked on by New York,

and this would really be a doozy of a loss.

If you're rubbing it in, yeah.

No Boston Scott anymore? No Boston Scott. You got to sign him.
He's playing in Rocket League right now. He's like a professional gamer.
Yeah. The Giants stink, but they're a little bit frisky, I think.
Their defense is good. Yeah, they're frisky.
There's parts of them that are frisky. Like neighbors coming back.
But they still have like the label of stink. So like losing to them still will feel like embarrassing, like losing to a horrible football team.
Even though it should be. But you agree with – I know what you're saying, yeah.
There's a stink around the Giants. Correct.
That losing to the Giants feels like a stink. I'm sure same like with the Commanders.
If you were to lose to us, that stink is definitely there. We're not talking about the commanders right now.
And on top of that, there's like a stink. And then also if you lose the Saquon revenge no boo game.
Right. That would hurt as well.
And the way the Giants can win this game would hurt extra, extra hard because all they do is like little passes. And they would just little pass you to death.
It be so boring and they would just, yeah, little pass. It would be so boring because it would also, I also think the only way we lose is if, I don't know.
There's plenty of ways we could lose, but like I'm thinking of like a, like a bad turnover or something dumb like that, that like would really get the Nick Sirianni strips, but close at halftime and then comes out naked and you get a penalty I'll say this right now if the if the Eagles lose to the Giants on Sunday Nick Sirianni will not be coaching the following week oh I I feel like he's coaching now he's coaching for his job well he just it's a job to go yeah job to coach will he just be taking a week off or he's gonna be fired he'll be done just he just goes mia like he's just gonna leave no i think

he will be i think he will be fired this is a prediction this is a prediction do they let him

back on the bus to go back to philly respect philly's a city of respect yeah we would of course

let him go get back on the bus but would there be a group of fans waiting to boo him at the facility

yeah and then i'll probably start yelling at him like the yelling at the fans last year last week

really like it felt like if they lost he wouldn't have yelled at the fans if they lost that game. But it really bumped up his hots.
I saw a report... I don't know if it was from the actual fan.
It was a guy claiming to be the fan. You saw that? Yeah, so the guy...
I saw it was a post on Instagram or something. He said that he was telling Nick Sirianni, like, run the ball more? Like, run the ball to Saquon? And then Nick Sirianni did run the ball more.
And then after the game, he was like, see, I told you I was going to run the ball more. So it might not have been, like, booing, then Nick Sirianni responding to the boo.
It might have been good coaching. You should hire that guy to be your coach.
Regardless, you shouldn't be, like, yelling at the fan about any, like. No.
Because a fan told you to run the ball, you kept that in your head and you had to go back to the stands. That's what fans do.
That's not what head coaches do. But that's fan 101.
He's definitely heard probably a million fans before saying, run the damn ball. But Sirianni shouldn't do that.
I have a question for you, Max. If you lose this game and then you fire sirianni what is it going to look like is it going to look like tommy and goodfellas when they shoot him in the back of the head or is it going to look like goodfellas when they do the wire uh he sits in the front seat like big dom how's big dom going to whack him big dom would only treat anyone any man with the most respect so he face to face yep two in the face let him the face.
Let him take his shoes off first. Yeah, Big Don is a man of respect for sure.
Would Nick Sirianni wind up frozen in a meat truck? I don't know. Okay.
I don't know. Would Nick Sirianni be, yeah, would he be like beat up in a bar and then buried upstate? What would you think about the Eagles season going forward if we lost Sirianni and somehow got Vrabel in the door? I think that would be crazy.
That would rock. I think that would be awesome for you.
Yeah. Mike Vrabel should be a coach in the NFL.
I feel like Mike Vrabel is like a... It's ridiculous that Mike Vrabel is not a head coach in the NFL.
Would the Browns let him out of his contract?

Isn't he just like an advisor?

No, he's an advisor, a consultant.

He was there.

I don't think he has an ironclad contract.

I'm sure they would let him out if he even had a contract.

He probably doesn't even have a non-compete clause in there.

Especially, it's not like they're playing for anything right now.

Well, they got Nick Chubb back.

Yeah.

You forgot about that part. But they're punting.

Andrew Thomas being out for the Giants

should make you feel a little bit more

excited about this game.

Yeah, I guess.

But it's...

I guess our D-line looked better last week.

Yeah.

And neighbors come...

They might not little pass you to death. They might find neighbors a few times, too.
They'll still little pass them to death. They just might do some medium passes, too.
I think neighbors is back. Well, he's back, but he has a new injury.
From what? He got a concussion. Obviously, he's back from that, but then I think he has a groin.
So do I. Yeah, we all do.
Pulled groin? Yeah. Sounds like a Friday night.
That's rude. He's a full go.
Damn it. He's a full go? His groin is 100%? Yeah, his groin is groining.
Oh, no. I do like the Malik neighbors.
It's been going around like he doesn't wear any team issue things when he's been out on the sideline, and people are very upset about it. It's kind of funny.
What do they want him to wear? It does look a little weird. He's just, you see the picture.
He's rocking echo unlimited on the sideline. He looks like he's going to a concert and he's just on the side.
Well, wasn't he? Chrome hearts. Pull up a picture of him on the sideline.
He did go to a concert. There it is.
Look at that. That's not, that is a ridiculous thing.
That's a ridiculous thing to wear while being on the sideline.

Okay, but counterpoint.

It's chromed out.

Counterpoint.

The Giants need somebody like this because Max's whole stink around the Giants

has to do with them just being a boring team offensively.

Yeah, and Malik Nabors is not boring.

Yeah.

This is the guy that you need.

This is a culture change.

He counteracts Daniel Jones being a Deloitte accountant.

I would also like to say, for the record, in addition to Mike Vrabel,

definitely should be a head coach right now in the NFL somewhere.

The Giants, if their season doesn't go well,

they kind of have to make a decision about what to do for their entire future.

Yeah.

Like with the whole Dable, Daniel Jones thing, you got to keep Dable.

I think that Dable is a good head coach.

I don't think that they should fire him after this season. I think, because you have to make the choice, right? Do you clean house, maybe get a new quarterback and a new head coach at the same time? Or do you keep the same guy around and give him at least a couple years to work with your new quarterback? I actually like Brian Dable enough to say that he should be their head coach.
I think you just do a simple estimation of if you fire Brian Dable, will he be hired tomorrow? And I think he probably would. As a head coach or as a coordinator? A head coach or a coordinator, but it would be pretty quick.
Yeah. So you don't want to fire a guy like that.
Yeah. And the Maris, they don't like to fire guys except like the last, what, 10 years? They fired McAdoo.
Yeah. They fired a lot of guys, but historically they don't like to fire guys guys.
Yeah, and Brian Dable, the one season that the Giants go to the playoffs, Darren Jones, that should be front and center, I can coach. Yeah.
Because I did that. Yeah.
We beat the Vikings. Okay.
Next up, Raiders at Rams. I hate this game.
It's a bad game. Jimmy G revenge game.
Is Jimmy G playing? No. Oh, Aiden O'Connell.
That guy stinks. I think the Rams off the bye.
Yeah, definitely the Rams off the bye. They're healthy, right? Cooper Cup, I think, is trying to come back.
And then the other big story that we talk about with Kyle Rudolph a little bit is Tom Brady.

He's been awarded custody of 10% of the Raiders, I believe.

5%. Oh, I thought he got 10% and then I thought...

He bought...

Mark Davis sold 10%.

I think it's 10.5%.

Okay.

5% to Brady, 5% to Brady's business partner, and then 0.5% to Richard Seymour.

Got it.

So Tom Brady is now, according to the NFL, not permitted to be in another team's facility. He's not permitted to witness practices.
He's not permitted to attend broadcast production meetings, either in person or virtually. He's prohibited from publicly criticizing game officials and other clubs.
He's subject to the NFL's gambling policy and anti-tampering policy, too. So he can't criticize the refs oh you forgot one thing he also can't play he can't play you can't owners cannot play which is a bullshit rule that is stupid mark davis going out there and holding the ball and kickoff would rock jerry jones would would definitely try to play yeah yeah so tom brady is now he's now a partial owner of an nfl team I mean, he's going to eventually own the Raiders, right?

I don't know how this works.

Is there some sort of succession power play he can pull behind Mark Davis' back?

Well, isn't the whole story that Mark Davis' mom actually owns the Raiders

and that eventually he won't have enough, like when she passes?

When she dies, the inheritance tax is going to be more than he has in cash.

Yeah.

So his wealth comes from owning the team, and then I guess you take out lines of credit against the asset that you own. Sure.
Yeah, whatever. Whatever the case may be.
So, yeah, maybe it is he set himself up for the future. Also, you think there's any truth to the Belichick rumors? Kirk threw those out there.
They got picked up everywhere. It would be an all-time story.
I don't. It would be an all-time story.
I just don't think there's a whole lot of truth. Yeah, I couldn't tell if Kirk was screwing with everyone or not.
I think that's what Kirk does. Yeah, right, which is hilarious because it literally got picked up everywhere.
So it was a master class. He was also in sports, Boston Sports Radio.
He knows how these things go. He knows how to say things semantically where he can just say, that's what I heard without reporting it as fact.
Yeah. I feel like Belichick – He can say, I heard anything.
Belichick might not go back to the NFL. He might not go back to coaching at all.
Oh, he's definitely – You think so? Yeah, because he's got the record. I feel like he's – He's trying to go for the record.
I feel like he's having a lot of fun. Oh, definitely not.
He's got to go for the record. He's like a guy that worked in a factory his entire life and came from like a hard scrabble town in the Midwest, Rust Belt.
He works, finally retires, always thought about retiring in that same town he grew up in, then goes to Florida one week and he's like, this is really nice, Don. Yeah.
I might just stay. By the way, the other owner is Tom Wagner, co-founder of night head capital management night head that sounds like the most evil company that guy sounds like he will just great company he'll cut your fucking you know necktie and then shit down your throat the the wagner group is that what it's called uh the tom wagner uh-huh the co-founder of night head capital management night head that's either that's either the most evil name or the horniest name I've ever heard.
Yeah, so that's the other... That's the 5% to each of them and then a half percent to Richard Seymour.
See, if Tom Brady says that's a bad call during a game, is that criticizing the officials? He's in a bad spot. Yeah.
I feel bad for him. I don't know why he's doing it.
Yeah. Well, I know why he's buying the Raiders.
I don't know why he's still doing the broadcasting. Because they're paying him $40 million a year.
I guess you got to pay one. Yeah.
I don't know why he got into – yeah, the $40 million a year, that whole thing. But I don't really understand why Tom wanted to – he's Tom Brady, isn't he? Again, it goes back to the thought of, like, Tom Brady should be too good to be talking to me on my couch about games that are happening.
That's beneath Tom Brady. What do you say, Max? I also looked up the Kirk stuff of if it was real.
He followed that up today with saying that Kamala will be the next head coach of the Miami Ducks. Are you saying that's not real? No, that could happen.
Yeah, if we want to make it real. That's very funny.
Yeah, that could definitely happen.

Kamala being the head coach. He was like, I only have one source, but I'll say it anyway.

Kamala doing her pregame speech just being like,

so I was born in a middle-class family.

All right, boys, let's go out there.

Let's be clear about one thing, okay?

I have a plan.

Go to my website and see my game plan.

Yeah, I mean, it actually did kind of happen with Adam Schefter reporting Condoleezza Rice. Yeah, true.
True. Okay.
Next game. Panthers and Commanders.
PFT, you're in trouble. I agree.
Oh, why do you think I was going to say you're in trouble? I'm saying I'm in trouble because I ran my mouth hot and loose last weekend. Just said, I counted this as bye week and I regret doing that.
I was going to say you're in trouble for a different reason because Dave Canales said that Bryce Young did a great job in the role of rookie QB Jaden Daniels on the scout team today in making the Washington offense concepts come to life. Oh, my God.
That's so sad to be like, yeah, Bryce Young, good job, dude. You pretended to be Jaden Daniels.
That is very, very sad. That's brutal.
Not only are you getting buried because people talk about you in comparison to the number one overall pick, or excuse me, the number two overall pick in your draft, now you're running scout team for the number two overall pick in the next draft. Just don't say it.
No, he was one overall. No, I know that.
I'm saying he gets buried because buried because of cj stroud yes now he's doing scout team for the next number two pick just don't say it don't say that dave canalis just be like we had a good week of practice do you remember uh rg3 at one point when he got demoted to scout team but he wasn't playing quarterback scout team he got demoted to being the scout team safety.

Yeah.

That was pretty sad.

Yeah, that was sad.

I think you're going to have a really fun time playing the Panthers.

I'm just worried because I shouldn't have said that about the Panthers.

I feel bad for Panthers fans.

I don't want to bully Panthers fans.

Okay, now speak honestly.

You've been speaking honestly.

I've been trying.

Yeah, so now speak honestly.

From what I've seen from the commanders, this is a game that we should win by 20 points. Oh, wow.
We should. I've been trying.
Yeah, so now speak honestly. From what I've seen from the commanders,

this is a game that we should win by 20 points.

Oh, wow.

We should.

I like that.

I hope we win.

Our defense isn't good.

We actually stink on defense.

We're one of the worst defenses.

How many touchdown passes for Jaden Daniels?

I don't know about total touchdowns, passing and running.

I'm going to say three.

Okay.

And then he's going to have two handoff touchdowns. Okay.
Those count too. Yep.
They do. Okay.
Yeah. This is going to be a fun game for you.
I hope so. This is a game.
This is take care of business game. Yeah.
Just take care of business. Beating the bad team still counts.
Yep. It still counts.
I'm also just still amazed that we have a home field advantage. It's been a decade since we've had a true home field advantage.
So it's very cool seeing Commanders fans. Also, fuck you to that Ravens fan that beat up the two Commanders fans after the game.
Yeah. He got arrested.
Yeah. Well, no, there's a warrant out.
There's a warrant out? Yeah. They'll find him.
They will. They'll track him down.
Yes, absolutely. Okay.
Another great game. This is a great Sunday slate.
Chiefs at 49ers. Andy Reid off a bye, 21-4.
Patrick Mahomes straight up as an underdog is 10-3. The Chiefs are one-and-a-half point underdogs.
They are off a bye. Also, Kyle Shanahan forced the team to watch the Super Bowl this week and said, I think everyone understands that we've lost two Super Bowls to them,

so that can give you a little post-traumatic stress

when you turn on the tape.

I don't know if I like that.

I think I'm going to take the 49ers, but I don't like that.

I don't like the move of playing the game for the guys.

Yeah.

That puts bad thoughts in your head.

Really bad thoughts.

In what world does that improve morale? Zero. I guess you could just hope that it's going to piss them off yeah and it was they were so close to be like hey look how close we were yeah so uh in terms of super bowl matchups like rematches uh the chiefs lost to the eagles last year but before that the last time the Super Bowl loser won the following regular season matchup was 1993.
Oh, wow.

So it goes back a long ways. That was the Chiefs-Eagles last year was the beginning of the end for Nick Sirianni.
Remember going up the tunnel? Yeah. Screaming at everyone? Yep.
But he won that game. No, I know, but that was the beginning of the end.
That was his Super Bowl. That was his Super Bowl.
I think that was the end of the beginning. Oh.
Oh, interesting. Okay.
So now we're in the middle. Or are we at the end? No, now we're at the end.
Actually, you know what? No, that was the beginning of the end. If you point to one point where you're like, Nick Ciarani, he's really like, this is kind of turning.
But that was high. But remember how obnoxious it was? And and everyone's like what's his problem but we but eagles fans were like whatever that's our guy at that point yeah but max i feel like the super bowl was the end of the beginning wrong that was started 10 and 1 okay that was the beginning of the end without you realizing it was the beginning yeah yeah yeah yes you just didn't go out for an interview you didn't know that it was the beginning of the end, but if you look back, you're like,

that was the beginning of the end.

He beat the Chiefs and was like, I'm done.

Job done.

Yeah.

Stop coaching.

Hank's confused.

Yeah, I was so happy.

What did he say in the...

Hank, what are you confused by?

What's up, Hank?

I think the walls are hacked.

Why?

Someone tweeted at me two minutes ago and said,

do you happen to know when the Pats are flying to London this week? Yeah. So? You think someone listens to us? Weird time.
That's a pretty standard question. Yeah.
To ask me? Well, you should have known the answer to that. If my team was playing in London, that's the first thing.
I would have that. I knew the Bears were flying on Monday night.
Memes also already already tweeted it i'm kidding what what's the answer i can't find a definitive answer you don't find an answer they practice in gillette today they're in gillette i'm assuming tomorrow oh so they're they're flying tonight okay they're flying tonight if they if they practice in gillette today that'd be funny if they flew over early in the week just like went on theeing tour, then flew back, practiced and then flew back again. Yeah, just got a little lay of the land.
Yeah, we have our answer. They're flying Thursday night.
Yeah, they're flying tonight. Okay.
Where were we? Beginning of the end. Chiefs Niners.
I want to read a tweet for you. See if you can decipher it for me.
Ready? This is from Charles Amenehu.

Plays for the Chiefs.

He's coming back shortly.

I think he tore his ACL, so he's going to be back shortly.

And he is kind of pumping himself up.

He said, I'm coming back to get what I deserve.

The biggest shit anything else ain't for me.

Done speak until I'm back.

Been too humble. Folks forgot what the fuck I did with less games than your favorite player.
Okay. Let me read that first sentence again.
I'm coming back to get what I deserve. The biggest shit anything else ain't for me.
It sounds like Napoleon. It's a riddle.
Yeah. No, it sounds like exactly what Napoleon said after he got, he got exiled.

Yeah.

So what is the biggest shit?

I don't know.

Ain't for me.

Ain't for me.

And your favorite player.

What was that?

It been too humble.

Folks forgot what the fuck I did with less games than your favorite player.

How does he know who my favorite player is?

Yeah.

What if your favorite player is,

is TJ Watt?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jerry should reply.

Be like,

I don't think so. Favorite player is Andy Dalton.
Then he probably did. He probably did.
That's a good point. Yeah, I like the Niners here.
I don't know. Do we have an update on Christian McCaffrey speaking of the walls? No.
Got it. And Jordan Mason, is he playing? Hank? Hank, you should...
He practiced. Next week...
I think he's playing. Next week, you should just...
Am I like the injury guy? Yeah, no, I'm saying next week you should print out every injury report and just be the injury guy. Yeah, you're a pro football.
That would be actually very funny if you had them all just printed in your hand. Hank Dockwood.
Jordan Mason was in a blue no-contact jersey today. Wait, a blue no-contact jersey? Are there levels to the no-contact jerseysys i think the red is for the quarterbacks only or maybe the blue is just it's the injury tent he was in the injury and they just call it wearing the injury yeah yeah uh okay last game uh on sunday jets at steelers how old are no flexes this week jet steelers is a that's pretty interesting r interesting matchup.
You got Russie. You got everything going on in New York.
Vikings, Packers, or a Super Bowl rematch? The stations, Fox and CBS gets to keep a certain amount because they don't want to give them up. The Jets and Giants, since 2019, are 4-31 playing at night in primetime.
What was that, memes? Your mic's still on. That was Max.
No, that was you. What was that? No, it was Max.
4-31. Yeah, it's disgusting.
That's insane. I got a couple reasons why I love the Steelers this weekend.
That stat that you just mentioned. Okay.
The fact that they're squeezing out Fireman Ed.

Yeah.

Who's now taken to the media.

There's stories about him in the New York Post.

Yeah.

Memes, what do you think about that?

Fireman Ed is accusing the New York Jets of not putting him on the video screen as much this season.

I believe him.

I saw that.

We're two and four.

Let's just win some football games.

No, it's a squeeze out.

Not go on your Instagram.

There's too many distractions going on with the Jets. We don't need Fireman Ed just going on Instagram and making a video.
It's a chicken or the Ed situation. Are they losing these games because Fireman Ed's not on the Jumbotron? Didn't Fireman Ed officially quit the Jets? He did.
Bullshit that this guy just comes around actually like he's the Jets' number one guy. And that the team quit.
He quit on the team. The team didn't quit on him he quit on the team yeah he quit after the but yeah and then he came back and he came back and then he's like I just demand respect like two years later and he's like now they're not putting me on the jumbotron enough I love that I love super fans getting like into litigation with the team that they're a super fan of um so that's that's data point number one why I like the Steelers that uh data point number two that i have is that the steelers are wearing their throwback uniforms oh now bumblebees no now if we if we thought that that memes is jets throwback uniform thing was ridiculous the steelers throwbacks look at them and you tell me what's different can you pull them up pull them up now but here.
Gotta be the helmet. Here's a stat about these uniforms.
They've wore them four times since they reintroduced them. And they're 4-0.
So what's different about these throwback uniforms? No idea. Hank, do you have any idea? Maybe the shoulder? Is the black blacker? No, it's block lettering.
So the new the new Steelers uniforms are in italics. Like the numbers are like at a slant.
And these are just the block letters on them. What the hell? But they are 4-0 when they wear these.
But they're the most un-throwback throwbacks of all time. Yeah.
I'm looking at this tweet from the official Steelers shop account. It says, you asked, we delivered.
Who the hell asked for this?

Everyone's asking.

It's the same thing.

So they are 4-0.

They played 2018 against the Browns, 2019 against the Rams,

Christmas Eve against the Raiders in 2022,

and then against the Packers in 2023,

wearing the throwback numbers.

That's so funny.

So I can't go against it because you see the new ones.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

They're like sleeker.

I like the Jets because I have a theory that doesn't really make sense when you talk it all the way out, but I'm going to say it anyway. I was on with our guys at Pittsburgh Radio today, and I think Mike Tomlin – So the courting process for Russell Wilson,son they obviously they went out to get him they still had kenny pickett they you know there was the stories about everyone like calling him being like please come help kenny pickett this would be great kenny pickett's like fucked out i'm out and they're like all right rush you're the starter right like that was that was what mike tomlin told him then justin fields gets traded to the steelers, and Mike Tomlin, a man of his word, is like, I know I have a better chance with Justin Fields, but I promise Russell Wilson he's a starter.
Russell Wilson was healthy last week. Why wouldn't you start Russell Wilson against the Raiders to get his feet wet against a very bad team? Instead, he's going to throw him out against the Jets to basically have him suck, and then he's going to be like, see, you guys told me that I need to start Russell Wilson.
I told Russell Wilson, it wasn't his job to lose. He sucks.
Justin Fields. That's not a bad theory, but then again, the theory all goes along the lines of Mike Tomlin's deliberately throwing a football game, which doesn't really make sense, but let's just forget that part.
Yeah. I, I, I like the Steelers defense at night,.
This is a double renegade game. Yeah, for sure.
Also, shout out Devontae Adams. His hamstring got better.
It's crazy. Magically.
It's wild. Yeah.
He's good now. How did he even hurt his hamstring to begin with? Is it a practice injury? Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe a getting-to-practice injury? He pulled up lame, according to Adam Schefter. He pulled up lame.
On a Friday. On a Friday? On a Friday before the game on Sunday.
That's like when Hank is just like, do you need me for the yak on Friday? Yeah. I'm not going to be around.
Do you? No. Okay.
You're good to golf. It sounds like you're just roasting your nerdiest friend for coming out to the bar for the weekend.
Like, yeah, this guy pulled up lame on Friday. Pulled up lame.
So lame. That's such a mean thing to say about somebody.
So lame. Yeah, I don't know.
I just... The Jets are completely out of excuses.
It's over. This is it.
You got to win right now with what you got. Season's on the line.
This is for the season. Yes, you got your coach fired.
You got Devontae Adams. Aaron Rodgers has gotten everything he wants.
The next blame is Aaron Rodgers. Memes, is there anything else that you can do? If you lose this game, is there another panic move that you can do to save the season? Hassan Redick? Hassan Redick.
Sign him. Bring him in.
Yeah. Wait, Memes.
Get the deal done. I want to...
Your face there, I said the next move is to blame Aarongers, and you're not going to do that. I like Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah.

But he's literally gotten everything he wants.

He's fun to watch.

I want to see how deep this well goes.

How many different things,

how many different Band-Aids can you put on

after heartbreaking losses before you get to Aaron?

Yeah.

Well, I think the next panic move is just sit Tyron Smith

and then put Fashanu in. Okay.
The offensive line has looked great. Apparently, Tyron Smith has let up the same amount of sacks in his entire career in this first six games.
So that's not great. Okay.
I also asked Memes if the season is over, if they lose this weekend. And he said, well, we've got a pretty easy schedule.
even if they go 2-5. Yeah, because if we lose this week, then Aaron Rodgers will do that thing where he's just like, we can run the table.
It's too early for to run the table, though. Yeah, but he'll do that thing later in the season.
Then we'll win a bunch of games and miss the playoffs by one game. This is getting a little pathetic.
All right, so next panic move is you sign Hassan Redick, get him in the building, get the deal done, right? And then move after that is bench Tyron Smith? Yes, but we're going to win this weekend, so we're fine. And what's after that? Sign Izzy again? Izzy hasn't played all the season.
He's been inactive. Okay.
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Minimum three legs required. Otherquon.
Okay. I love that.
That was good. Bang, bang, bang.
I was really hoping someone was going to say Saquon. He's got to score back at MetLife this weekend.
I love that. And you know Sirianni wants him to score against the Giants.
Yeah, for sure. All right, our picks.
Who's up first? And what are the records? Max is up first. Me and Big Cat are 7-5.
PFT, 6-6. Hank, 5-7.
Max, 4-7-1. Oh, Max.
Half a game back. back Long season When does it not become a long season?

I'm half a game back

I know

It could be the last week of the year and it wouldn't be bad

That's true

Although that did happen to you

Yeah, fucking

Davis Mills

Davis Mills, a piece of shit

The best

I love Davis Mills

Alright, Max

I'm gonna go the Jets

Jets minus 2

Jets minus 2 against the Steelers

I like it

I like it

Thank you. All right, Max.
I'm going to go the Jets. Jets minus two.
Jets minus two against the Steelers. I like it.
I like it. I'm going to go with the New England Patriots.
Five and a half. Okay.
I'm going to take the Chargers minus two. A Super Bowl winner.
I am going to take the Washington Commanders minus eight. Wow.
So, Hank, are you going to reverse what you did last week? Because we said it at the beginning of the week that that was the beginning of the show, that that was the best week for, like, gamblers, worst week for Vegas, all the favorites covered. You did a round robin of all the underdogs.
Yep. 165 bets over 165.
I think I'm going to do it again. Do it on the DraftKings Sportsbook.
All right. Memes.
Niners minus one and a half. Okay.
And I'm going to take the Bills Titans over 41. Okay.
I'm going to take the Bengals Browns over 41 and a half. Okay.
Someone took the Jags Patriots over 42. No, I will take it.
Jags Patriots over 42. I like that.
I'm going to take the commanders and the Panthers over 51 and.5. Love taking overs in Commanders games.
Yes. Max.
I am going to take the Packers, Texans over 47.5. Did anyone take that? Those uniforms? Yeah, we said that was over uniform.
Yeah, no. It's's over.
Do you feel good about that? I keep saying I like the uniform. Okay.
Do you want me to say it again? I like the uniform. Yeah.
I haven't hit a total once this year, I think. My total.
If this game ends 10 to 3, will you admit that I was right about the uniforms? Yes. Okay, thank you.
If exactly 10 to 3. Yeah, okay, perfect.
That's all I wanted. I get an apology.
That's perfect. But if it if exactly 10 to 30 yeah okay perfect that's all i wanted that's all i get an apology that's perfect but if it's if it's 6-3 i will not okay deal deal great deal great doing business with you great doing business with you i get 10 to 3 both ways though it could be packers 10 to 3 or texans 10 to 3 yeah yeah yeah right 10 is all I need.
Okay. Let's do go.
So we're going to have our parlay up for in the DraftKings Sportsbook. We have Justin Jefferson, Saquon, and Brian Robinson.
So we're going to hit it this week. I feel good about this week.
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What's up, boys? What's up, fucka? What up, dickhead? What's up, fuckface? What's up, fucka? My name's Paul. What's up, Paulie? Paulie.
Paulie D. in the pick of destiny.
Oh, nice. My stardom this week is Tom Brady.
Yeah. The GOAT.
The greatest of all time. He's now an owner.
Oakland Raiders. Second hottest owner on that fucking franchise.
Second hottest owner? Second hottest. Who's the hottest? Mark Davies.
Oh, good guy. Mark Davies.
My sit-em? Kawhi Leonard. Yeah.
Kawhi Leonard, yeah. What do you do? Much like playoff pee, much like Joel Embiid.

He doesn't like to play a lot, and what do you know?

He got hurt.

He's out for an indefinite period of time.

Oh, no.

Indefinite.

Season hasn't even started.

Does he know the playoffs aren't a while from now?

That's usually when he gets hurt.

He's probably trying to wait until the playoffs start to come back.

Okay.

You sound like you might be a little bit from Northeast.

Yeah, kid. You sound like you're a lobsterman? Yeah, kid.
Gloucester. Pauly.
My sleeper? Koopa Cup. Yeah.
Koopa. Koopa Troopa.
Koopa Troopa. Koopa Cooper.
Good kid from the old neighborhood. He's back.
He's wearing the Guardian cap. I think he's going to go off this week.
Oh, nice. The Guardian cap a little light in the loafers.
Not me. Good for Koopa.
Not me. Koopa Koopa.
Koopa Koopa Koopa Hey what's up assholes My name is Italia Natalia Italia Natalia Yeah you can just call me It Nat It Nat They call me This week I'm starting taking long poops during chess matches Oh You guys see that chess match that they had Where the guy got busted for cheating because he kept pooping? We got more drama. He pooped like nine times.
Probably taking all the ceramic binwa balls out of his derriere. Queen's Gambit.
Queens get great show. She was just doing pills the whole time.
I forgot about that. She was fucked up.
Eyeballs on the side of the head looked like a guy I shot one time. My sit-em is Jerry Reinsdorf.

Jerry Reinsdorf, sit-em.

You're a fan of the Chicago White Sox.

Congratulations.

That was mine, too.

The end might be near for you, my friend,

because it looks like Jerry is going to sign off the team.

Looks like he's getting rid of the team.

Sell the balls, too, bitch. He said he's going to focus on the balls.
Am I right? Yeah, no, his son's going to focus on the team. Yeah.
Looks like he's getting rid of the team. Sell the Bulls too, bitch.
He said he's going to focus on the Bulls.

Am I right?

Yeah, no, his son's going to focus on the Bulls.

He's going to focus on the Bulls.

My sleeper.

What do you say we get our 401k and try and, you know, make a run at it?

Don't make a run at the White Sox?

It'd be a real shame if the White Sox fell off the back of a truck and we owned them

all of a sudden.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Would be.

And then my sleeper going into this weekend is uh i'm gonna say my sleeper is ashton jenty have you guys heard about this kid i think he's a i think he's a really good player i i hope the best for him i hope be a real shame a real shame if he decided to save his knees for the nfl i'm a travis hunter guy travis hunter guy myself up and down i'm just saying be a real shame if he decided to save his knees for the NFL. I'm a Travis Hunter guy.
I'm a Travis Hunter guy myself, too. I'm a Travis Hunter guy.
Up and down. I'm just saying it'd be a real shame.
If something happened, Ashton Gentry was like, I don't want to run anymore. I'd rather save my knees for the NFL.
What's up, fuckers? My name's Nicky Chicken Pommy. Hey, Nicky Chickie.
Brasario. Nicky Chicken Pomerana? Pomerana Brasario.
Yeah, I like that. NCPB.
Yeah, Nick CB. Nick PB? NCB.
NCPB. NCPB.
That's how we spell in here. My stardom is Travis Hunter.
He's actually the Heisman. Don't do that.
That's a good point. Don't fucking do that.
My sin was Jerry Ridesworth, too. Fuck that guy.
I hope he sells the Bulls, too. Maybe he'll sell the White Sox and be like, oh, I got a lot of money.
Maybe I should sell the Bulls, too. Maybe he gets addicted to selling.
That guy fucking stinks. I hate him.
My sleeper is Devontae Adams because he's going to solve all the Jets' problems. I agree.
Well, and if he doesn't, then they've got to sign Hassan Reddick.

Yeah.

Then that's going to solve all the problems.

And then they've got to sign another guy and then another guy and then another guy and then fire another coach.

Then they've got to get their own stadium.

And then maybe one of them will be like, maybe Aaron Rodgers is a problem.

But nah.

Nah, not Aaron Rodgers.

He's good.

Nah.

Good kid.

Nah.

All right.

Let's get to our interviews.

We've got Kyle Rudolph and then a hologram interview with Francis Nagano. Whoa.
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have and guest friend of the program been forever been a while been a long time it's kyle rudolph retired uh multi pro bowl winner or multi pro bowl haver that's a good question did you win the pro bowls uh one and one um 2013 2012 season uh we nfc won that one pretty big uh was fortunate to be the mvp got a car out of that oh oh oh nice i should have said that pro bowl mvp what kind of car was it uh you uh gmc denali like a yukon denali my dad is still driving the truck seriously but closing in on like 300 000 miles on it you gotta pay the taxes on it yeah uh so you i think it was like three or four grand for the taxes oh That's not bad. No, not bad at all.
We had an idea for the Pro Bowl where to get the players to have some skin in the game, the winning team all gets a year early to free agency if they want. Yeah.
What do you think about that? You think guys would go hard? Especially thinking about the guys that are in that game. Yeah.
Or no franchise tag. Like they can't, they get to, they get basically a, uh, a uno card reverse on a.

Right. would go hard.
Especially thinking about the guys that are in that game. Yeah.
Yeah. Or no franchise tag.
Like they can't, they get basically a Uno card reverse on a franchise tag. If you win the Pro Bowl.
Yeah. I feel like that's, Roger Goodell, give us a call.
We got tons of ideas. Most of them are bad, but I think this is a good one.
Yeah. But so we haven't had you on since, I think it was the Teddy Bridgewater injury many years ago,

which is crazy because you're now retired from the NFL.

Obviously, is Teddy Bridgewater still in the NFL?

No, he's retired.

He's the head coach back at his high school in Miami Northwestern.

I love that.

I love that.

Teddy seems like one of those guys that everyone loved and rooted for.

Yeah.

I mean, I remember being with you guys in that room.

It was kind of like.

Yeah. It was weird.
It was bad. Like, what the fuck just like what the fuck it was bad yeah we felt bad being there yeah and they're like well teddy obviously can't do it no one was looking us in the eye they're like well you can talk to kyle and harrison and then uh blair walsh will talk to you yeah the blair walsh one was that was the add-on because i know we were going to interview you and and uh we didn't get zimmer Walsh and that just became – that was right after the year that you guys lost to the Seahawks in that cold game.
Yeah. Yeah, that was bad.
It was literally the training camp after the kick. Yeah, yeah.
That game was cold. Yeah.
I remember driving to the stadium. I think we played at noon.
Yeah, because it was, too. It was so bright, so cold.
You check the temperature on your phone, and it wasn't wind chill minus 26. It was actual temp was minus 26 driving to the stadium.
And you guys were outside at the time because the stadium hadn't been completed yet. And then I remember before that game, Bud Grant walked out shirtless.
Well, not shirtless, but sleeveless. He was wearing a polo shirt.
He was in his 90s at the time, right? Crazy. And it was just, he was like, I'm going to set the tone for this game by going out for the coin flip wearing a polo shirt.
So he had an office at our facility, Winter Park, the old school facility, and then at TCO, the beautiful big building that they have now. And he always had an office there.
He'd walk around. and he was still very present, like literally to the day he died.
And it was like there was just always this gritty toughness about him. So when he walked out for the coin toss with just a polo shirt on, you're like, that dude's crazy.
Can't complain about the cold anymore. Did anyone go back to the locker room and they're like, fuck, I got to take my sleeves off.
Bud's out here, no sleeves. I put my park on and went and sat on the bench and warmed up.
Wait, so you retired officially as a Viking. You signed a one-day contract.
Yeah. Explain that to us because we always are like, it's not a real contract.
I mean, I didn't sign anything. Oh, no.
Don't say that. It's got to be a real.
You didn't sign anything? No, because technically, if I would have signed a one-day contract during the season, they would have had to have released someone for me to sign a contract. How shitty would that be to be the guy that gets cut so I can retire a Viking? Wait, but did you get to do anything? We always joke we'd want to go do a workout or something, or let me actually get the use out of this one-day contract.
I think the coolest thing that I got to do was my oldest two, my twin daughters, They remember going to games at US Bank Stadium.

They were old enough for that.

My son does not.

He's five now.

The one year that he might have remembered some games

was 2020 when no one went to games.

So he remembers New York and Tampa,

which for me, there's not a whole lot to remember

from either of those two places.

I didn't do much there.

You caught Tom Brady's last touchdown, right?

I did.

That was about it.

That's pretty crazy.

Did you hang on to the ball?

So I had the ball.

We were actually talking about it out there on the floor.

I probably devalued one of the most valuable balls in the history.

It was my 50th career touchdown.

So what did you do?

That's why I kept it.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

So I kept the ball. I had no idea that was going to be Tom's last regular season touchdown.
I don't think anyone did. And so I caught the touchdown knowing it was my 50th.
And now like, you know, like the marathon runners that run the marathon and then just drop like 100 yards from the finish line, like their body just can't physically go another inch. That was like me getting the 50 touchdowns.
I had like 47 touchdowns in 2019, and I retired in 2022 with my last game catching my 50th touchdown. Like I had never had a season with less than three touchdowns in a year, and I went like one in 20, one in 21, and then the last game of 22.
I'm like, you know what? I'm going to retire with 49 touchdowns, the way it's supposed to be. And I caught the touchdown against the Falcons from Tom.
So I'm like, all right, I got the ball, my 50th career touchdown. That's pretty sweet.
And then I gave it to the equipment manager, and then obviously he had it painted. It says Kyle Rudolph's 50th career touchdown.
Oh, no. It does say from Tom Brady on it.
That's awesome, though. I feel like that might be like when they make a baseball card and there's a small error on it or something.
Maybe the value of the ball is even higher because you did that to him. You know what you got to do is you got to donate that to Canton because then it will just be Tom Brady's last touchdown ball, but it will say you're in Canton.
Yeah, yeah. Because I'll never get to the Hall of Fame.
So I could live in in canton forever yeah they'll be like here's tom brady's last touchdown pass who just say kyle rudolph 50th touchdown they gotta do that take my boys to canton in like 10 years and be like look your dad's in the hall of fame yeah yeah that's it that's a fun fact though you can always say that like the last one that he threw unless he comes back and plays for the raiders in two years which i i know it's impossible for him to do that but in the back of my head i'm I'm like, well, what if? What if? I mean, it's also supposedly impossible for him to continue to do the stuff that he's going to do at Fox. Yeah.
I read something like the rules that he will have to follow. It'll almost be impossible for him to broadcast games with the protocol.
He can't be in production meetings. He can't talk to anyone.
He can't go into other facilities across the league. He can't criticize officials uh he has to abide by the tampering policies so i don't know is he allowed to say like hey this player is really good i don't know i don't know what the rules are gonna be but it'll be interesting but pretty strange they're going to change to your point if they're going to change the rules for anybody yeah it would be tom brady yeah it's like if tom wants to come play quarterback they'd probably let him did brady ever accidentally call you gronk would he ever give you a look and you're like you're thinking i'm not gronk yeah for sure like i remember uh like probably like halfway through training camp you know it's interesting because i had obviously never played with a quarterback like tom not many people have and it was more so the way in which he just simplified everything like if if I'm running a corner out and it's zone coverage and there's a massive void in the defense, like when I come out of my corner out, like turn around, I'm going to throw you the ball.
Like so many quarterbacks that I played with were like, hey, you have a corner out. You got to run up to 12 yards.
You got to put your foot in the ground at 12, and I want you at 16 to 18 yards, like right over there. And if you're not there, I'm going to be pissed off because on the sheet of paper that we looked at on Wednesday, it says you have a corner route and that's where you're supposed to be.
Whereas Tom was like almost at times like recess, like he threw again. So I run up, I got a corner out.
You know, I get by the linebacker. I put my foot on the ground thinking, Oh, man, I'm going to take this thing.
There's no one over here. And all of a sudden, the ball skips next to me on the ground.
I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. And I turn around.
He's like, bro, what are you doing? There's no one there. Turn around.
Turn around right away, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Now I know why Gronk caught so many balls because it's like, hey, when no one's around you and you're open, he's like, I know you're open. I'm going to throw you the ball.
Right. And I felt like that's one of the things with Tom.
So many quarterbacks are worried about, okay, here's the play. What do my guys have? What's my read? What's the defense giving me? For him, he's just like, I know what my guys have.
I've seen what you're going to give me five times already. So I'm just looking.
And it's like, oh, no one's over there. I'm going to throw the ball there.
Yeah. That's crazy.
Oh, shit. Yeah, that makes total sense.
Yeah, it becomes intuitive. Yeah.
Yeah, just get open. Yeah.
and I'm like just get open and I'm just looking and it's like, oh, no one's over there. I'm gonna throw the ball there.
Yeah. That's crazy.
Like, yeah, that makes total sense. Yeah.
It becomes intuitive. Yeah.
Yeah. Just get open.
Yeah. And I'm like, oh yeah, I probably should have done that.
Gronk for sure would have done that. Yeah.
It'll never happen again. Tom, I promise.
Did you ever try to talk to him with like a limited vocabulary just to make him feel comfortable? It's like, I'm kind of like Gronk. Just throw ball.
Yeah. Throw ball.
I'll catch ball. Throw ball.
I'll catch ball. Yeah.
No, it's for me, you know, that was really the only reason I went to Tampa. Tom had reached out kind of earlier in the offseason as OTAs were going on, not sure what Gronk was going to do, whether he retired or not.
And quite honestly, at that point, he was like, look, if he comes back, I'll take both of you. Right.
Like, get down here. You know, for me at that point in my career, I wouldn't say I didn't know that was going to be my last year going into it.
But I knew the end was near, and I just wanted to win. That's all I cared about.
And he's like, hey, we have one of the most talented teams I've ever been on. And I'm like, sweet.
Say no more. I'll be down there.
And then, obviously, Gronk retired. And I'm like, no, I definitely want to go.
Yeah. Yeah.
What, what down the stretch, what was the, what was the moment where you're like, oh,

okay, this is, we're getting towards the. down there and then obviously gronk retired i'm like no i definitely want to go yeah um what what

down the stretch what was the what was the moment where you're like oh okay this is we're getting towards the end was there like something that you could feel playing where you're like oh my burst or you know yeah i mean no i mean like i i tell people you can't lose your burst when you never had one yeah that's true good point like i've i've never lost my burst yeah we still have our burst and that was part of

probably what was so frustrating for me

was That's true. Good point.
I've never lost my burst. Yeah, we still have our burst.
And that was part of probably what was so frustrating for me is like, you know, people be like, oh, you know, you're getting older. Like, you're in your 30s now.
I'm like, I'm the exact same size that I've been my whole career. And my skill set has never been my speed.
Right. I'm a big guy.
You can throw the ball anywhere. Big catch radius um that has nothing to do with running fast right so you can't lose something that you never had right um but for me like i knew it was coming to the end where like what we do for previously 16 games now 17 games like it's brutal it's a grind and if you don't enjoy it it's hard to go out and fake it and be like yeah i'll keep doing this like no like i i just kind of lost the fun in it um and and once i i lost the the joy and the enjoyment that i got out of the game that's where i knew it's like it's it's time to hang them up like you can't get that back once it's gone that might that must have made it somewhat easier i obviously it's not it's not to retire or something that you've been doing your whole life, but to have that feeling of like, I feel it, I know it's not the same as it used to be, has got to make it a little bit easier.
No, I'd say the decision's not easy, but it makes the transition easier. Yeah.
Because you know that you're making the right decision based on how you feel. And ultimately, when I tell people, when you can walk away from the game on your own, not many guys get that opportunity.
Right. Football is often taken from us.
And then you're on the outside, you know, looking in, man, like, OTAs are starting. I should be on a team.
And, like, training camp started. Like, I should be in a camp somewhere.
And then it's like you see preseason games on TV and regular season games. And, like, last season, the 23 season, OTAs, training camp, regular season,

we went back to Minnesota week three for the retirement deal with my family.

Not once was I like, damn, I should be out there.

Yeah, that's got to feel good.

When I was done, I was done.

It's funny.

I actually got a phone call because early in free agency,

there was still a few teams that were like, hey, what do you think? You still want to come out? Actually, the Raiders reached out in August, so it was like five or six days into training camp. My agent called me, and he's like, hey, are you sure you're done? And I'm like, I'm at brunch in New York City, and it's like 9 a.m., and drunk.
Yeah. Like it's August 1st.
Like I'm done.

Yeah.

I'm done.

I'm done.

Yeah.

Probably good call.

Not going to that team less.

That would have been a chaotic environment for you.

Yeah.

And that's honestly,

you know,

one of the other ones was Cincinnati.

I'm from Cincinnati.

Obviously they have one of the best quarterbacks.

We talked about Joe Burrow and just like his elite ability.

You know,

he took a franchise that I saw just be abysmal for decades to a Super Bowl, which I never would have thought would have happened. Yeah.
And, you know, we started talking to them. And, you know, I like the idea that the idea of ending my career back home, going and basically playing there for peanuts, you know, having my family be able to come to all my games and watch games and then being on a team with a legit quarterback and a good good roster the year before going to tampa like waiting as long as i did ultimately believing that i'm picking the best situation possible and then having like for me personally and as a team like we completely underachieved as a team we were eight and nine we won our division but it was because it was the nf South.
It was the worst division in football. Lost in the first round of the playoffs.
And for me, it was just not enjoyable of a year at all. And I thought I was picking the most favorable situation possible.
So that was kind of playing in my mind as free agency was starting at that point where I think this is the best situation possible, but how do you really know? And sure enough, I would have been playing with Jake Browning.

Yeah.

We like Jake Browning.

Love Jake Browning.

He was with me in Minnesota.

Yeah, it would have changed.

I wasn't going to be with Joe Brown.

You thought you were doing one.

Right, right.

You're doing one thing, and it's completely different.

I also feel like if you go to Cincinnati to end your career,

there's probably a good likelihood that you just stay there, right?

And then you've got to eat all the chili.

Oh, have you seen the chili ice cream? I haven't seen the chili ice cream skyline chili ice graters yeah oh graters yeah yeah that's it's not the same so graters is its own deal yeah um yeah but like when you get like a cincinnati pack skyline would be in it graters would be in it there's like a pizza sauce montgomery and no no no the graters just made a skyline chili flavored ice cream yeah's gross. I don't know how I feel about that.
I'm going to try it. I have to.
Kyle did What's for Lunch with Donnie, and he made Skyline Chili. Was it good? Unbelievable.
So Donnie came in yesterday. He was like, PFT, Kyle wants Skyline Chili for lunch.
What's in it? I was like, dude, just cinnamon. Yeah.
It's crazy. Like cinnamon, chocolate.
Because when we were planning the trip this week, they asked me kind of what I wanted to do. And we were in Minnesota for 12 years.
There's some Minnesota type things like the Juicy Lucy burgers, the hot dishes. All that stuff's great.
And I'm like, you know, born and raised in Cincinnati. Like I love my Skyline chili.
All sent. Because like you can get like the packs of like how many people we serve in four eight thirty like I'll just give me the number of people and I'll have them send it all up and we can just rock out with it like no no Donnie wants to make it from scratch yeah and I was like okay yeah this is gonna be and sure enough just walking across the basketball court into the kitchen I could smell it.
And it smelled like skyline chili. It tasted phenomenal.
So it was pretty cool for me to get to do What's for Lunch with Donnie and have a kid who grew up in Minnesota and watched me play for the Vikings. I know.
He's a big Vikings fan. I don't think when we interviewed you, it was before the Minneapolis Miracle, right? Yeah.
Correct. So, yeah, one of the best plays, plays most iconic plays probably in nfl history and you were there for it what what was going through your head when that happened it's funny because everybody remembers digs his touchdown and like the miracle to win the game and the walk-off touchdown that it was but people don't really know kind of the whole flow of the game you know we were up like 16 i think it was 16 to nothing at halftime like nothing could go wrong then we come out at the start of the second half obviously they have drew breeze sean payton like they were the saints had a run where they were really good for a long time and you never really felt like the game was over but for us it was like interception blocked punt like everything that we could possibly do wrong to let them back in the game we did and then sure enough the last couple minutes of the game was like back and forth back and forth they score i think there was like 26 seconds left but we're only down one all we needed to do was get in field goal range to ultimately have a chance at kicking a game-winning field goal indoors in a in a We weren't kicking this one at TCF Bank Stadium with it being negative 20 degrees.
This one was going to be inside. So, you know, we had 26 seconds.
I don't think we had any timeouts. And it was like, oh, really all we need is like two chunk plays.
And if we can get like a big chunk and get out of bounds, now we're in really good shape. And we had the play that we called repeatedly like back to back ultimately the one that digs scored on and you know it's kind of myself jarius right and digs on one side of the formation i go to the flat jarius would go like a 12 yard out and then digs would take the high corner and ultimately it's like we want to put three guys where you only have two defenders like there's only a corner and a safety over there and you've got to pick which of the two you want to cover so we called it on I think it was second down and I like run out to the flat and turn and look back thinking the ball is going to come to me because there's no one around like they guarded Jarius and they guarded Diggs like the 12 yard guy and the deep guy.
And I'm like, this is perfect. Case can throw me the ball.
I'll get like 10, 12 yards and get out of bounds. Now we're 10 yards closer to that field goal.
And, you know, I run to the flat thing and the ball is coming, look over my shoulder and he chucks it to Jarius, right? Who was probably like 15 yards downfield over his head out of bounds

i'm like shit like now what are we gonna do like you know that that would have been 10 15 yards

we just wasted you know however many five six seconds um so we call come back we call the

exact same play and the next time the corner jumped me in the flat and it was like so we

were in the bunch i run to the flat the corner covered me right away and immediately i'm like

Thank you. next time the corner jumped me in the flat and it was like so we were in the bunch i run to the flat the corner covered me right away and immediately i'm like what the fuck are you doing yeah well you're not supposed to be here no like you we have no timeouts we need like 35 yards to get in a field range if he throws me the ball we're doing you a favor yeah i'm i'm not going to be able to get 35 yards and get out of bounds like why and why would you cover me because he didn't know the last play and he was like fuck i should have gone to kyle yeah but ultimately that left jarius and digs two on one with whoever that safety was he chucked it to digs we also you know saw the play where he catches it keeps his balance, you know, safety.

Johnson. chucked it to digs we also you know saw the play where he catches it keeps his balance uh you know safety johnson he i think he's in baltimore now yeah and we all were like yelling like you got to get out of bounds yeah and to me like i think about that if that was me in that situation i probably would have caught the ball and ran out of bounds immediately and then it would have been up to a kicker to win the game, which obviously we saw how that went for us once in the past.

There's a couple times in Vikings.

I caught a ball.

So in that Seahawks game, I caught a ball in that two-minute drill and got to the nine-yard line.

And so I went out of bounds at the nine-yard line thinking,

this game's over.

So for me, it's like I would have caught that ball

and probably went right out of bounds because that's what you're supposed to do.

And for Diggs to have the wherewithal to keep his balance and then just run and score, it was amazing. It was incredible.
Tough question, but do you think the way that game ended had anything to do with how you guys came out against the Eagles the next week? Or were the Eagles just that good? I mean, they were obviously on the Super Bowl run. I think it was a combination of that.
But then also, I remember that Eagles game, we went right down the field the first drive and scored. I caught a touchdown.
It was 7-0. They went maybe three and out, but they didn't have the ball long on offense.
We got the ball back. A couple first downs, getting ready to cross midfield.
And I remember thinking to myself, man, these Philly fans, if we can score and go up 14-0, like, they might boo Nick Foles out of here and, like, we'll get him to turn and have the advantage being on the road. And it was, like, the next third down we threw a pick six.
And it was all over. It was over.
Yeah. They were cranking Meek Mill, and, like, it was like someone hit a bee's nest with a stick.
I mean, just the place was going bananas. So everyone sees that score.
I was like 38-7 or something. I don't even remember what the final was.
But so they made it 7-7. Then it was 14-7.
We had the ball on like the 10 or 12 yard line getting ready to score with a minute or two left before half and again I run a corner out I look over my shoulder thinking the ball is going to be in the air the game's tied 14-14 and all of a sudden I come out of my break look over my shoulder there's no ball so then ultimately i looked down to the quarterback well the ball was on the ground so case had got strip sacked so instead of the game being tied 1414 they have a sack fumble they go down and score 21 7 they get the ball to start the second half 28 7 the next time we touched the ball it was 28 7 instead of 14 14 yeah and it's like it's over um's over. So it wasn't how you came out.
No, it wasn't how he came out. And then for them, honestly, like they were hitting everything.
Like Foles hit a flea flicker to Torrey Smith. Like he literally caught it like 50 yards downfield, almost out of bounds.
Yeah. He hit Alshon Jeffrey on a bomb.
Like they were just dialing it up. Did it fuck you up though? A little knowing you're going to this NFC Championship game in the Super Bowls at home? Well, it had never happened.
I know. It happened with the Bucs.
Bucs and Rams. It was like two out of the next three years it happened right away after we were so close.
It fucked me up more coming back after we lost and then having Philly and New England come to me. That sucked.
I remember landing. I was fortunate to be in the Pro Bowl that year.
So after coming back from the NFC Championship loss, we went to Orlando for the week. And it gave us a break being in Orlando for the week.
You didn't really think about it. But we landed back from Orlando that Monday.
The big Super Bowl sign. And it was like the whole airport was decked out in Super Bowl gear.
The Patriots plane had landed while we were in the terminal and like you see it and that's where i was like i gotta get the hell and it was also i i remember that super bowl week so well because i have a bunch of friends uh from minnesota and i went out to dinner with them i think the friday night and they were like thank god we had like decent weather this week it was like 20 degrees all week right but they were right like that was actually like incredible weather for yeah i think it was like up till thursday or maybe even friday morning that week it was it It was like 20 degrees all week. Right.
But they were right. Like that was actually like incredible weather for the middle of February.
Yeah, I think it was like up till Thursday or maybe even Friday morning that week. It was.
It was like in the 20s, which is a heat wave. The weekend though, like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, it was brutally cold.
I remember that Friday. It was like negative eight walking out to the car.
And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, but they were like, yeah, no, it's been incredible. It's been beautiful.
The sun's out. It's 20 degrees.
They were like, we're worried about this weather, and it's been awesome weather. Do you have any expectations put on you? If it's your hometown that's hosting the Super Bowl, do those players on teams, like, are you doing any events that week or anything? Yeah, I mean, for us, I felt like it was kind of unique because it wasn't like we had four weeks to plan it having not made the playoffs.
Right. Like we were fully anticipating, you know, for me, it's like,

I'm coming back to Minnesota.

I'm going to have like my wife worry about the tickets.

Like you handle all that stuff.

I got to focus on a game.

Instead, we lost, went to Orlando, came home.

And then basically at that point it was like,

how much money can I make this week?

Yeah.

That it's in our hometown.

Like make as much money as possible with all the appearances and whatnot.

And then for us, we got the hell out of there on, I think it was like Friday or Saturday.

You didn't come to the worst sparsal party ever, did you?

I was there.

Oh, that was so bad.

That was pretty bad, yeah.

I just remember no one could get in.

Morehouse.

Yeah, no one could get in.

Yeah.

No, you might be thinking of the live radio setup that we had.

Oh, yeah. On that Friday, we had this big indoor.
No, you might be thinking of the live radio setup that we had. Oh, yeah.

On that Friday, we had this big indoor...

Yeah, it was like rows.

It was like an atrium.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You were there.

That was...

Yeah, I just remember SVP called me.

He's like, I'm standing in line in like 10 degree weather.

Exactly.

And you're standing in line, you're freezing.

Yeah, and Greg Olson, I think, got a table and it was just taken.

And that was an embarrassment.

And Glenny Balls had to get called outside to bring some famous musician.

And I'm trying to remember who it was.

I'm trying to remember who it was. It was bad.
It was like Flo Rida or something. We did.
And Glennie had to go grab him. Our Super Bowl party history is like we just crushed it in Houston the first year.
We should never have done it again. That was the best party ever.
And every single one after that was downhill. Was that Jauru and Ashanti? It was, yeah.
Yeah. And it was like everyone came everyone came and everyone's like that's the best party of the week we should have just walked off right my any the torrential down oh yeah you did that one absolutely yeah rough and rowdy got washed out yeah like the apocalypse the bridge was like on fire driving scooter mcgavin just sitting in like in like three feet of rain yeah that picture yeah i'm at our party i was actually just looking at a list here of quarterbacks that you've caught touchdown passes from because I looked it up.
I was like, well, Tom Brady's, you know, obviously one from him. Can you name every quarterback that you've caught a touchdown from? Yeah.
Christian Ponder, Matt Castle, Joe Webb. Joe Webb.
Joe Webb. What was that like? I believed in Joe Webb.
I was in Washington on Christmas Eve. Joe, I lost a lot of money thinking Joe Webb was going to go into Green Bay in the playoff game, I believe.
I was like, Joe Webb is the answer. Michael Vick did it.
Joe Webb. 2011 was when I caught the touchdown from Joe Webb on Christmas Eve, second to last.
That was the game. We beat Washington in Washington, so we didn't get Andrew Luck.
We would have had the number one overall pick if we had lost to washington and we lost to chicago the next week so joe webb kept us from having andrew luck but ultimately yeah so that joe webb the next year christian got hurt week 17 we beat green bay at home to then play them in the wild card round in green bay and the whole week we like because media is only at practice during the individual period and like christian pretended like he was practicing even though he couldn't even throw a football and it was like we tried to keep it a secret that joe was going to be the starter but then ultimately we didn't change anything like we didn't change the offense to suit joe webb yeah i thought you were gonna go joe a go full Joe Webb on him. The next week, Green Bay goes to San Fran and Colin Kaepernick runs all over.
And it's like, we had that guy the week before. We could have just let Joe run all over the place.
I haven't thought of Joe Webb in forever. I was a big believer in Joe Webb.
A very frustrating playoff game to watch. I was like, do something.
I know you can do it. You're Joe Webb.
So cold. Love Joe to death from Birmingham, Alabama.
As Joe's lips are frozen in Green Bay with his thick Birmingham accent, trying to hear him enunciate the plays, that was a challenge in itself. Yeah.
Then it would have been. Let's see.

Who'd you say so far? You said Christian Ponder, Tom Brady, Joe Webb. Yeah.
I'm going to go chronological order. That'll probably be my best chance.
So it'd be Christian, Joe, Matt Castle, um, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford, um, Case Keenum, Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones, and then Tom Brady. There's one.
One more. Who would it have been? Matt Castle.
I said Matt Castle. Oh, you said Matt Castle? Yeah, yeah.
Okay. All right.
Yeah, you got them all. Because then there's, I mean, I've also had games that I've started with quarterbacks as well that I didn't catch touchdowns from too.
So you've got Donovan McNabb, Marcus Freeman, Sean Hill. A lot of people thought that Marcus Freeman was the best quarterback coming out of college.
Yeah. Or no, that's Josh Freeman.
Josh Freeman. That's what I meant, Josh Freeman.
Marcus Freeman's a head coach. The Donovan McNabb Vikings era was tough.
Donovan five games. Yeah.
I went to, I went to a Monday night game. That was the last.
Yeah. Bears Viking.
And he was, I just remember sitting there and like chuckling to myself. Cause every pass was just like five yards in front of everyone.
Yeah. So that was, that was Donovan.
Christian started the next week. The Josh Freeman.
Can't wait. I said Marcus Freeman.
What a fucking idiot a coach at notre that's okay um josh freeman we played in london against the steelers we were oh and three uh christian was the starter for the first three weeks he got smoked in like a browns game remember uh i think his phil taylor was like the big defensive tackle from the browns yeah massive dude like he hit christ. I think he broke like two or three of his ribs.
So Christian was out when we went to London. Matt Kessel started.
We beat the Steelers in London. And like we were talking about it over there on Yak.
Like we stayed the night in London and then flew home the next morning. We were one and three, but we were going into the bye week with a win.
We had a huge good time inondon uh flew back matt started the next week against carolina um that was the year that carolina won like 15 in a row or something um so they beat us and it was like ultimately josh we had traded for josh freeman over the bye week he had been there for like five practices yeah we started him on monday night in new york and it was like one of the historically worst performances by a quarterback ever. And I felt so bad for him.
He had been there for five days. That's brutal.
Yeah, let's throw him out there on Monday night football against the Giants. So that was bad.
But then they ran that back with Josh Dobbs, right? This might be a dumb question. This is probably just like my memory and just all the years of football it was josh freeman a big snake guy yeah he was like all over his yeah apparently he was a big snake wasn't really yeah yeah like uh i don't know why that that's a fact i never i didn't have in my brain i could remember like what i'm doing later today but i'm like no i actually just have josh freeman was a snake guy yeah and i never never went to a spot but i heard that like he just kind of had them everywhere like they weren't in in like glass yeah they're just living free range yeah yeah free range yeah i mean coming out of college the big argument was who do you want cam newton or josh freeman and i feel like cam newton might have won that debate yeah i would say so i'd say he probably won that yeah i mean but josh i mean he could, he could throw it 100 yards.
He had an absolute cannon. Who's the hardest – what's the hardest you've ever been hit by any player? Lance Briggs, Chicago.
He had a lot of muscle behind him. It was the Sunday after Thanksgiving.
We were playing in Chicago, noon kickoff. I was running like a crossing route.
I didn't get the ball and he came down and just like smoked me. Uh, probably would be a penalty today.
Yeah. Um, do you get mad about that? I was like sitting on the ground and it was kind of like one of those things I was collecting my thoughts.
Um, didn't really hit me right away. I was like, okay.
Like he good go back to the huddle the next play was fourth and goal uh we ended up turning it over on downs went to the sideline i think the bears went three and out they punted it back to us and then like the we went three and out on the next drive we got the ball back and it was autopilot like i was out there i was in the huddle i I was where I was supposed to be. I ran the route that I was supposed to run.

I blocked like no clue.

No recollection.

Come to the sideline.

And like one of the practice squad tight ends like tossed me a,

like a beanie.

And I'm like,

bro,

what's this for?

He's like,

get your hat.

Holy shit.

What do I need a hat for?

And they were like,

uh,

Shug,

like our head trainer like suge

you need to talk to rudy he's he's a little out there right now and so sure enough they like came over and like you know do you know who are playing you didn't have an answer no wow they're like do you know what month it is and i was like october i was sure it was october i said the sunday after Thanksgiving. I said October like that.

Nailed it.

Nailed it, yeah.

Let me get back in the game. So they took me to the locker room.
I failed my iPad test miserably. Our head doctor was like, you know, do you have anybody at home that can look out after you tonight? You know, just make sure you're all right.
I'm like, yeah, I live with Harrison Smith. Like he's on the fucking table over there.
The first quarter and I will do both of you have someone that can take care of you. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, my not wife, Jordan, it's like, she'll take care of us. Um, so yeah, should you care both of you? Yeah.
Both of us. And it was funny because they like told her, they're like, you know, tried to, you know, typical don't watch TV, like make sure you wake him up throughout the course of the night.
And like, we, we got back and we're like watching Sunday night football in a dark room. Exactly.
You're not supposed to do. Yeah.
Don't you dare wake us up? Like if we're sleeping, don't wake us up. but yeah so that was the hardest I ever got hit and it was funny because after

after I said that

and i walked like back towards my locker it like immediately came back like something triggered my mind that notre dame i think there was like a i saw because we had everson griffin and matt khalil uh castle may have been on the team at that we had like a bunch of of USC guys on the team. And I don't know if I put a Notre Dame something in one of their lockers.
It triggered my memory right away. And I turned and ran back.
And I'm like, it's the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Notre Dame just beat USC last night.
I'm good. And they're like, hit the showers.
You're not going back out there. So the iPad test that they give you, what was on the iPad?

Yeah, it's like a lot of like memory thing and like numbers.

So like, hey, here's five numbers in order, like repeat them back.

Or, you know, here's six words.

Like, we want you to remember them.

And then we're going to ask you other questions.

And we're going to come back and say like, hey, read me the six words.

If you don't know what month it is or who you're playing, I don't know why they gave me the ipad test right like yeah clearly i failed well you were confident with october so maybe they're like oh he's got it yeah they just want to have you believe in it yeah i love the idea of them sending you and harris and smith home together and just like okay look after each other yeah take care of one another you guys you guys got this so what was that like living with a teammate was that? It was cool. So Harry and I, obviously, we went to Notre Dame together.
He was a year ahead of me at Notre Dame. So he was there for five.
I left after three. So he got to Notre Dame in 07.
I got to Minnesota in 11. And then he got there in 12.
So I had already been there for a year. We drafted him in the first round.
And he was trying to figure out kind of where to live and I'm like dude just live with me like let's live together yeah and it was it was awesome like we we had a blast it was you know to be able to live with like one of your college buddies as you're both still trying to like figure out the whole NFL thing for me it was year two uh it was it was good was a good year for us both, too.

Like, we went to the playoffs.

You know, Harry kind of – I don't think a lot of people expected him to be as good of a professional as he was, like, right away.

You know, he came out – I think he had three touchdowns as a rookie,

like pick sixes, just balled out from the beginning.

Yeah.

All right, so I got a couple last questions.

It's been awesome catching up with you.

Do you still talk to Charlie Weiss?

I do, actually.

And his – because I think you were the one who told us about the birds.

So,

Thank you. Do you still talk to Charlie Weiss? I do, actually.
And his bird, because I think you were the one who told us about the birds. Sol Fuego.
Yeah, Sol Fuego. I think you were the one who, were you not? No.
Who told us about the birds? We might have invented the bird, but then we talked to Charlie Weiss. He's like, yeah, I got a bird.
I got a bird. He's got two birds that he lives in his house, and they attack people when they walk in.
Yeah, it's an asshole parrot named Sol Fuego. Sol Fuego.
No. Oh, so no so every time i would spend he always had like golden retriever like dogs um don't remember the birds but yeah charles i still talk to charlie probably weekly i was just texting with him the other day i saw him he came over um you know obviously he lives on the atlantic side of south florida so he drove over to tampa a couple weeks ago we we got together but for me like 18 years old you go to college and your head coach is so much more than a head coach for you at that point in your life like he for me he really became like a father figure and someone that I'm still super close with to to this day and Charlie's awesome man he's lost like 150 pounds holy shit yeah he looks great um like when i saw him a couple weeks ago uh he's moving around as good as i've ever seen him move around uh charlie jr's got a couple kids now and it's just like he's at oomiss right yeah he's the offensive coordinator at oomiss and i think that really kind of just, you know, opened his eyes to, you know, like I need to get it together.
Like, you know, Charlie, the grandkids, like I want to be here for them. And it's been awesome.
You know, one of my college roommates, Mike Golick Jr., his family has a charity event back in South Bend every summer, do a cool golf tournament and stuff. And Charlie was back this year.
We had like 10 or 12 of the guys from my class. It was just awesome to see him.
Awesome to spend time with him and see him doing so well. That's awesome.
You ever hang out with the Golic's pugs? Yeah. Yeah.
So the dogs are always around. Um, they're just the best family.
I mean, like all the kids, the Mr. Golic, Mrs.
Golic, uh, they, they really took all of us in. They were kind of like our parents when we were in school, and they're good people.
Yeah. No, we love the Golicks.
We always love the Golicks. All right, so my last question, Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE.
20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com, promo code TAKE. So you came to the office today.
It was awesome. We did the pro football show, which will be out Friday night.
You're doing a bunch. You did the gauntlet.
You're not plugging anything, but we got to plug the fact that you are still doing an awesome foundation. So we got to talk about it.
That's what you're doing. For me, coming out of the pandemic, Jason Zucker, who played for the Minnesota Wild, he's on the Buffalo Sabres currently.
We did a ton of stuff together in the Twin Cities around Masonic Children's Hospital. And, you know, we had all the traditional events.
We had the Barstool golf guys out to our golf tournament. I remember that.
We had Dave and Riggs, Trent, Frankie. Like, when Frankie was Dave's camera guy, like, I give him a hard time because it's like, way before any of you guys were famous, you were celebrities in my golf tournament.
And like, now they're huge. They were not famous at the time.
They were celebrities in our golf tournament. But we always had those traditional events, like the fancy events, the golf tournaments.
Hell, we even created like a Beer Olympics on Lake Minnetonka, which is a touchy subject given the history of the Vikingsikings in lake minnetonka and the history of the beer olympics yeah for us so we we called it um the lake bash uh that was our like politically correct way of saying we're going to raise money for a children's hospital but we're going to play flip cup and quarters and beer pong and all this fun stuff so it's like we tried to find as many creative ways as we possibly could to raise money for the children's hospital there. And the children's hospital is amazing.
Like the nurses, the doctors, the staff, everybody, they're incredible. I've loved serving them as much as we can over the course of my time there.
And, you know, for me, it was really coming out of the pandemic where we didn't have any events like you couldn't have all the traditional charity events that you always had and sitting down with jason and some of our other supporters from the children's hospital who have become co-founders in altru the company that we started to ultimately raise money for non-profits was we wanted to come up with a way in which, like you think about sports, particularly sports.

Obviously now we're in music.

We have, it's wild.

Right now on our website, on altru.com,

I want to challenge the stoolies

because the Swifties went crazy this week.

I'm going to the Taylor Swift concert

next Friday in New Orleans.

Okay.

Thanks to Demario Davis.

He had a suite there. You know, he hooked us up with some tickets.
My daughters probably won't see the show, so I can say this. I'm taking my eight-year-old twin daughter.
So my wife and I are taking our twin daughters over. They're super jacked about it.
But we had two extra tickets, and we put them on our platform to raise money for the Hurricane Relief, which we lived through both of them. And like seeing the Tampa Bay area and the destruction from Helene, which a lot of people don't realize because the storm hit so much further north.
And you hear about Carolinas and Tennessee and Georgia. They don't realize how bad the Tampa area flooded from Helene.
And then obviously from Milton, you know, that was a direct path right through there. And it was like, everybody pretty much already had their lives out at the curb because it was flooded.
And then this, you know, storm rolls through with high winds. It's just, it's been pretty catastrophic for just that Bay area.
And I was like, look, we did so much for Minnesota when we were in Minnesota. And I get it.
I was here for like a cup of coffee. I played like five games for the Bucks, I think.
I was in sweats a majority of that season. But I'm like, this is home now.
We want to do something to support this community. And we have these tickets that people are just dying to get.
They're in a suite at the Caesar Superdome in New Orleans. So we threw those up.
And I up and i mean it was like 25 000 of charity right away for and like she's not even associated with it yeah like they're not even promoting this is just people seeing it on the site and like a we want to support the hurricane relief and b like the swifties came out and supported big time so i need the stoolies okay to dominate the yes here on the back and we got through the weekend. And then basically the way our platform works is we, most of the time we partner with celebrities.
So, you know, whether it be, uh, we actually did something with the foreplay guys. So the foreplay guys sent a winner and a guest to the Ryder cup when it was in Paris.
Um, and the way we do it is like, we want to create those once in a lifetime opportunities that most of the time are out of reach for diehard sports fans. Your diehard sports fans not spending 10,000 bucks in a live auction to buy that trip.
It's priced out of a majority of our fans who spend their hard-earned money on the game they can go to or the season tickets or, you know, whatever they can do to support their team. With us, you can support your favorite player, your favorite musician, your favorite actor for as little as $10.
And it's like we do donations directly to their nonprofit from $10 to $500. And then you have chances to win these ones.
Yeah. So it's awesome.
It's a sweepstakes model in which, you know, for us, we have four co-founders who are to our core, you know, philanthropists. And it's about raising as much money as we possibly can for these other individuals, charities, and providing a platform for them.
We don't go to anything, but let's do something with us. Let's have someone, let's do an auction where someone can watch NFL football with us on a Sunday.
Come to the gambling cave. I would love that.
Let's do it with you guys. We'll give fans the opportunity to join it.
That would be awesome. You picked the charity, so you get to pick the nonprofit, and we'll get it up and going and get the stoolies to have an opportunity to hang out with you guys.
That would be awesome. We'd be happy to do that.
And then when the next Ryder Cup comes around, me and Big Cat were just talking about this. They're pricing out all the real golf fans here in America.
So if you want to go up to Bethpage and watch the Ryder Cup, was it $750 a ticket? Crazy. I saw that sheet that came out with the ticket prices.
Maybe we can do something like that and send a diehard golf fan that's not able to afford it. We're in, though.
It's crazy because in in three years we've raised i think like over six million dollars for charity uh we've worked with over 165 different non-profits and to me that's one of the cool parts is like what we were able to do in minneapolis with the children's hospital was amazing and again to serve those doctors patients families nurses it's for that community. And like the legacy that we were able to leave as a family in that small community is cool.
That's awesome. But now what Altru allows us to do is impact organizations all across the country.
And even like we worked with Sidney Crosby last year and we're getting ready to launch again with Sid. His foundation's in Canada.
It's like a youth camp in Canada that we fund for him through an experience to go to a Penguins game and meet Sid and get a signed stick. And to your point, the diehard sports fans are often priced out of these once-in-a-lifetime experiences.
And of the, call it 170 winners that we've had over the last three years, it almost interesting how good like fate is and we were just uh two weeks ago i was in la for arnold schwarzenegger had a poker tournament at his house to benefit after school all-stars is his non-profit and we call them rallies because it's a sweepstakes but ultimately we're trying to get fans to rally behind these causes and these celebrities. And so we did a rally with Arnold where the winner got to go to Arnold's house and play in the poker tournament and go to the event.
And it's like to buy a seat at that event, it was like 50 grand to have a spot at the poker event. And this woman who's a diehard Arnold fan with like an Arnold tattoo on her thigh won the opportunity to meet him at their house.
And so to me, like, yes, we're raising money for all these great nonprofits. And like, that's a win in itself because what I've tried to create is almost like a completely different pool of charitable dollars.
These little like 10, 25, $50 donations wouldn't be going to charity if you didn't have a reason to give them. Right.
It would just be all of the events and the high net worth donations and the corporate sponsors. All of that money that's always been going to charity will continue to go.
How do we take that, call it billion dollar market and raise more money and add to it? But then the flip side is the winners. Yeah.
And when you tell these people that they won and they can't believe it, with the Minnesota Vikings Foundation over the summer, we gave away a brand new Ford F-150. Oh, hell yes.
Northland Ford dealers in Minnesota ponied up a brand new F-150. They donated it to the charity.
Vikings fans got to donate for a chance to win a new truck. And sure enough, the winner was like a local St.
Paul guy, had a vikings fans got to donate for a chance to win a new truck and sure enough the winner was like a local saint paul guy had a viking season ticket holder for 25 years we get his address victor literally the mascot and i roll up to his house knock on the door and like this dude had a rusted out f-150 in his drive oh that's perfect and it was like so cool like so cool. I mean, he just starts crying right away.
He was like, I don't ever buy myself a new truck because I got my wife a new car. And he's like, I've been a season ticket holder for 25 years.
I love the Vikings. I'm like, let's go pick out your truck.
Like you give them a new truck. So the winner side is almost as cool as raising the money.
That's amazing. I do have to follow up since you alluded to the love boat, Fred S friend smooth and the love cruise that you guys had this is before your time it was you weren't there i think that was 2006 oh six i was still in high school but okay trust me i lived on lake minnetonka and like the first time we went out on lake minnetonka it was brought to our attention immediately like this is what happened don't do it yeah so what what stories were still in the building were there guys still from that team uh yeah i think the the funniest story and it really wasn't even from uh two stories i'll tell two stories uh first of which was a result of love boat and or love cruise whatever they called it and it was chad greenway who's like a dear friend of mine like was a mentor as soon soon as I got drafted to the Vikings, took me under his wing.
He was their first round draft pick that next year. And he's like, they 100% drafted me because I was like a clean cut white guy from Iowa.
And it was like, we got to clean up our image. Like we can't be having like this love boat.
So he swears that's why he got drafted by the Vikings. So that was a funny story from it.
And the other was like the team meeting that followed. So it happens.
It hits the news. Everybody gets called into the facility.
The Will family had just bought the team. They just bought the team in 06.
And so Mark and Ziggy are there, and they're talking to the team. And Mark doesn't have much of an accent like mark speaks um you know they're from new jersey but you wouldn't know that mark is foreign you know so ziggy on the other hand like still has a very thick accent and the guy said that you know ziggy was just like you could tell he was so disappointed in everybody on the team and he's kind of going through it and he's like

you know i just and everybody in their minds thinking like what's he gonna say like what's he gonna say that he's most disappointed about like was it the hookers on the boat or the drugs that were all over the place or like whatnot and he goes i just i i can't understand how you would pee in someone's yard.

When the guys all got off the boat,

that's what got them busted.

Someone I just, I can't understand how you would pee in someone's yard. It was like when the guys all got off the boat, that's what got them busted.
Someone was peeing in someone's backyard. Oh, man.
And that's like the police report was that someone was peeing in someone's backyard. And it wasn't that there was a million hookers getting off the boat and drugs everywhere.
And they like, again, talking to Jim Kleinsaucer, who was a tight end when i got there as a rookie going into his 13th year jim would tell that story and he's just like i was dying he's like you're thinking of what's the worst thing he could possibly say that this poor guy who just bought the team heard that one of our morons was doing on this boat yeah i just can't believe you guys would pee in someone's yard that was like the most disappointing i would have been sick if he was like i just can't believe you guys didn't invite me i just bought the team yeah we just spent all this money and you guys didn't give us an invite yeah well kyle thanks so much man for coming by always great to see you uh we will set it up so we'll let everyone know when we get it set up and we'll we'll do something fun for the stoolies and uh always you on, man. I appreciate you guys.
I can't believe it had been since 2016. I know.
Too long. I mean, I see you guys all the time.
Big Cat, we hang out at Baja Mar. Yeah, we went to dinner in the Bahamas.
But, yeah, I hadn't gotten on the show in a while. Just randomly checking into the hotel for our one vacation a year after Super Bowl, me and my wife, and it was just Kyle standing there with his wife.
It's like, all right, let's go to dinner. Yeah, we both did the exact same thing.
It was like the season ended and we left the kids at home and went to the Bahamas to have our trip. But yeah, no, I appreciate you guys.
It's been awesome to be back. I tried to dust out my old big country t-shirt.
Oh, that's right. I still have that somewhere.
Yeah. One of the best t-shirts.
Yeah. You know, it was like the soft cotton type t-shirt,

but then just the fact that there's not a,

aside from enjoying country music,

like,

yeah,

there's not a country bone in my body.

We just put a nickname on you.

It didn't work.

Big white guy with tattoos.

Like,

and it went like still to this day.

I have people like,

yo,

big country.

Like,

what's up,

man?

I am from a country.

And then like,

Thank you. still to this day I have people like yo big country what's up man? I am from a country and then like country is in my family like my mom grew up on a dairy farm like it's in there but I'm not I was like soft grew up in Cincinnati who's next up? Maybe you can pass the nickname down maybe there's always one tight end in the NFL that's big country.
Yeah, well, we could go through it. I mean, Cole who was here earlier.
Yeah, Cole could be a great big country. Cole could be a great big country.
I grew up in the suburbs, like the rich area of Chicago. He's probably never spent a day in his life on a farm.
Big country. Could be a good country.
I kind of like that. Do you want to pass it down to Cole? We'll convene after this.
I think we've got to go through a more formal vetting process. We're going to watch football tonight.
We'll figure it out. We'll definitely pass it on to someone that doesn't deserve it much like I did deserve it either.
All right. Thanks so much, Kyle.
Yeah, I appreciate it, guys. Kyle Rudolph was brought to you by the PFL, Professional Fighters League.
The MMA event of the year, the Battle of the Giants, is coming up fast. Lineal heavy world champion francis nagano makes his return to the cage versus hinnon ferreira world's mma goat chris cyborg takes on 2023 pfl champ larissa pacheco johnny eblin goes toe-to-toe with fabian

edwards with a bellator middleweight title on the line the battle of the giants nagano versus

ferreira goes down saturday october 19th 4 p.m eastern that's 4 p.m eastern on espn plus pay-per-view

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And now here he is, Francis Nagano. He's with us right now via hologram, getting ready for his big fight.

October 19th, it's the Battle of the Giants.

Nagano vs. Ferreira goes down October 19th at 4 p.m.
Eastern on ESPN+. Pay-per-view into Zone, pay-per-view.

Francis, first of all, thank you for joining us.

We are looking at you.

It looks like you're in this room with us.

I know you said you've never done a hologram before,

but it's pretty damn cool from this end. thank you for doing this you're welcome thank you I mean as I said I feel uncomfortable uncomfortable like the Holy Grime stuff I never done that I mean at least not as an entity yeah yeah I've done a hologram but hologram, but not for an interview.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, it does look cool on our end. It's going to come out cool for our fans.
So let's talk about the fight. October 19th, you're getting back in the octagon.
You are putting on the MMA gloves again. What's going through your head now that you've had a couple years off, off switched to boxing now back to this.
Do you feel like you had to sharpen your skills and, and kind of relearn some things or is it like getting on a bike and just riding it again? It's not like reliance something, but, uh, it's like getting on the bike and ride it again. Obviously like after a while, uh, you kind of like question if you're going to ride it, uh, as you as fast performance and stuff but at the end of the day the skills did that then it just take a couple months to shove in the skills you know yeah so it's like right riding a bike like um going to the gym the first time you're worried like am i even going to remember how this work like did i forget something and then you get in the gym you get on the mat you find yourself in situation then it just feels like you were there two days ago yeah do you do you feel like boxing made you a better mma fighter I think both are very different sport.
They are very completely different because even if you perform your boxing, the training that you do for boxing, the position, the guard and everything is not what's added for MMA. But you have to be very careful of your posture after coming from boxing to MMA because if you stand like you're standing in boxing in MMA with giving an opportunity to a guy to kick your legs, to take you down and all the stuff, it's not good at all.
Yeah, I could imagine. Have you noticed yourself doing that in training where you catch yourself every now and then doing like a boxing stance or acting like you're in boxing so that doesn't happen when you're training and getting ready for this fight no no no it's not like i've been doing boxing for i don't know for 10 years that now i have a body metabolism uh for it like uh no yeah i've been doing mma uh mostly so going back into MMA is easier I mean what would have been complicated would it be like to come to do boxing from MMA after been doing MMA for such a long time you know but again I was always able to distinguish both of them make the difference between boxing and MMA.
And you said that the punches are harder in MMA, right? In UFC? I mean, technically, yes. I mean, in MMA, remember, it's four-ounce glove.
With some time, like with your bare knuckles, some of your knuckles not open. So sometimes you caught by that that's why like you will find a lot of injury in MMA in MMA knee and elbow are allowed and I think those are more brutal yeah how this is a dumb question for you how awesome does it feel when you connect with a punch and knock someone out?

That's got to feel like the coolest feeling in the world where you're like, man, like I could never knock anyone out. I'm a pussy.
But for you, like hitting someone perfect, is it just an incredible feeling like adrenaline rush? I think winning is an incredible feeling. like you know like right in the action with the adrenaline and everything when you're fighting

you don't think about, like, oh, I knocked this guy out, like the punches, you know? You just think about the overall result, which is what matters most. Because, like, sometimes during the fight, you can really feel like you connect with someone and then he doesn't go down.
Right.

And sometimes somebody goes down like and you're even like wondering why he's down.

Like if he slipped because you didn't feel like you truly connect.

But yet you clip him in some way.

Yeah.

What's the most satisfying way to win?

I have my own answer, but I haven't fought very much UFC.

So maybe you have a different one than I do.

Well, the most satisfying way to win is to have your hand raised that's the most if you are asking about the most is to have your hand raised and then it depends on the play out you know on how the fight play plays out I think sometimes you go to a tough battle and then you come back, you win the fight, and then it's more satisfying than when you just get in the fight and get a knockout. That seems like, of course, you're fresh, you're not hurt, but he can beat you like a lucky shot.
Yeah, I think the best way, at least as a as a spectator is a liver shot when you connect on a body shot and then like two seconds later they they collapse the ground that's my favorite one to watch ah okay that's cool yeah i also the ufc like a guillotine choke you've done that before you've submitted someone with a guillotine choke have you uh in training and

everything have you ever tapped i've never tapped personally have you ever tapped yes oh wow i have done why i would never tell well i think no why because that maybe that's why you're not professional no and i think i can handle myself when you have when you have somebody in the in the gym that will not tap that's not good for training he's putting people at risk

yeah I can handle myself. When you have somebody in the gym that will not tap, that's not good for training.
He's putting people at risk. He's putting himself at risk and you at risk.
Because I think the confusion here is to understand the purpose of training, of why you're there. Sometimes tapping is like, okay, I made a mistake.
You are there to learn learn you are not there to prove anything and i think tapping uh is not like it's a sign of weakness it's like uh noticing that yes you did some mistake and then at that point that maybe uh raise your awareness of what you did like for not to do it again you know of to learn from it instead of, like, being there and playing tough. Yes, maybe you might play tough in the gym and don't have to tap and then you get in the fight and then find yourself passing out.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's a bit...
He wouldn't, he wouldn't, then he wouldn't be productive. Yeah.
Your training wouldn't be productive just because of your ego. if you make your training productive you're trying to understand you are not there to prove to people you know like i always say like training for me is just exercising i don't really consider i'm there to learn like in fact for the most most time like when i have partners which i think they are not in my level or even if they are at my level i want to put my arm like to get myself in a difficult situation and see how i can overcome that situation you know i like to uh get someone on my back i i want to like to get some get down and get someone on top of me stuff like that you know learn understand like uh the keys of uh getting out of those difficult situation then i learn but if i stand up i'm sure this guy will not take me down uh right so i'd rather just lay down for him make things easy and so he helped me walking maybe is a Jiu-Jitsu guy, but he's not a wrestler.
He's not strong enough to take me down, right? So it's for what I want. You know, I put myself in the position to learn.
Then I find myself in the ground, sometimes I have to tap because he's an expert in Jiu-Jitsu. In fact, that's why I get him there.

To help me understand what's going on.

Yeah, I mean, actually now I think I will tap,

because Francis Ngannou, one of the toughest guys in the world,

says it's okay to tap.

I'm not going to tap because I'm never going to fight Francis Ngannou.

That's my one rule.

I've always said that my entire life.

If I ever meet you, I'm not going to fight you. You can try all you want, but I'm not going to punch you.

When you're training for this fight,

are you trying to find somebody that mimics the style of your opponent?

Do you have somebody that you hand-select

because you think that it matches up with what your opponent's going to do?

Of course.

You always do that.

Always match up.

Also, it's not only about your opponent.

It's also about your strategy.

What is the strategy that you want to implement in the fight?

What's your game plan?

How do you think you should approach the fight? Also, your sparring partner could be picked up into that. For example, you want to strike, and then you better have a good uh training uh sparring partner you want to wrestle you better have a sparring good wrestler as a sparring partner to get you work those muscles congestion because otherwise you will get in the fight and in the first action like uh you feel the congestion in your hands and blood flow and everything.

You can't move anymore.

Yeah.

It might be a dumb question, but do you ever get scared?

I would say nervous.

Yes.

Just as nervous as you don't want to lose.

As nervous as when, I don't know, like when a musician is going to a scene, they are nervous. You know, I would say like scared because say scared because you tell yourself that at the end of the day, what can possibly happen, the worst is that I get hit in the face.
At this point, I'm not into getting really concerned that I don't want to get hit in the face, but it won't be a drama. It's not exactly what it is.
It's not exactly what will kill me. So it's okay.
Yeah. So your story is incredible.
You obviously grew up in Cameroon in poverty. You're working in a quarry, moved to France.
Do you have moments where you sit back, you're like, I can't believe my life and how I was able to make it through all this adversity and basically given no chance to get to where you are right now to being one of the best fighters in the world? Well, yes, there are moments like that. I mean, I still do.
I still, like when I think from where I came from, when I go where I came from to see where I am today, it's still kind of, like, unbelievable, even though it's believable because you have to believe in order to make it, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's a great story. It's so cool.
I don't. Yeah.
But, you know, the thing is that I don't really, like, just sit down and, like, count it. Because I think what I'm focused about right now is, like, how far can I go until I stop, you know, because, like, where I am today is not where I was yesterday.
And then my purpose is to be somewhere else tomorrow and the day after and the day after until all this end. So yes, of course, I look back for a reference, but I focus forward.
Do you have a moment when you were growing up or maybe when you moved to France

where you had a moment where you're like,

I think I might have a special talent here.

Like there's something, or maybe someone told you it

and you realized for the first time,

because I love those stories of incredible athletes

having that first light bulb moment where you're like,

oh, I might have something here that's different than everyone else my light balls my light balls wasn't my talent um in fact i didn't know i didn't uh see i didn't go into a combat sport gym into a boxing gym until i was 22 years old that's crazy but uh but yet in my entire life i in this. I think my light bulb was a fit, you know, determination in order to do what I do.
And let's be honest right here. I don't think I'm the most skilled guy.
I don't think I'm the most talented guy. In fact, I think talent is very important.
But I think talent doesn't make you a champion. Talent doesn't put you in the top of the game.
There is only one thing, it's your dedication, your determination and your hard work. Because the most talented people, for some reason, they are not always on top of the game.
They might maintain play, use talent to get to the middle and start there.

But to get on top of the game, you need way more than talent, which is something that a lot of people don't have, and they never get in that position. Talent doesn't get you here.
So I was lucky. So, I mean, in fact, I think in some way, I would say it's a luck not to have too much talent.

Yeah.

I'm very lucky.

I'm a very, very lucky man.

Because when you have talent, you rely on that talent, you trust that talent, and then you underlook the most important side of it, which is like the hard work, which is like your motivation, your determination, and all those stuff, you underline them and that plays back on you. Even at school, you will see talented geniuses.
They never do their homework, they don't do stuff, everything comes to them and they just take it as a ground. Even though they might have might be uh have the uh first note in the class they don't study yeah right but they get to the point that they need to study but since they never used to study it's hard for them but you the guy that was always in the mirror that was always grinding you know started he's there already he has that core and that's what drives him somewhere somewhere more than yeah it's a great point like knowing that you're not the most talented person uh can be a huge asset because you know you have to outwork the most talented person that you see that has it you know come to them naturally what was the point though when you're growing up that you realized that you were super super strong i? I mean, in my family, we used to always be strong.
We had a reputation of being strong, even like me. As far as I can remember, my dad and my uncle, they were talking about them like the strongest guy in the village around and stuff so I knew I was strong but was strong strong is it enough is it enough to do whatever you want to do that you don't know even where to do it where to start it, that was the problem you know, the problem wasn't about strength, yes you're strong but we are talking about a discipline that you have to practice you have to learn and i haven't learned yet so how come would i be uh would that be um useful to me so when you're talking when you're talking about determination and and how much you put in how much work you put in what does that look like in your world like how how often are you training what is what is your

determination getting you determination uh it's not just about like uh the training it doesn't come about training let me tell you something i believe in this sport and in what i'm doing in where i am now uh 10 years uh 10 years before the first time stepping in the gym you know that faith is also a part of it I think you need faith first and then you have the determination and then we will talk about hard work and everything but you need to believe in it at first because you are not determined about something that you don't believe is a waste. It's first about your faith to have a consistent faith, stuff like that.
Those are more important. Interesting.
That's what gets you into the gym. That's what gets you to believe something that self-believing that faith that you have in you and your your capability of achieving something that's what get you into that yeah and i read that uh and again it's an incredible story that you have when you're growing up you had to walk six miles to school yes uh every day yeah it was six miles one way six miles so what time would you have to wake up in the morning for that um i used to wake up around like uh 5 30 6 when i was living at our house that i was living because the school was at six in six miles um so i will count like we will count like two hours to work i I mean, I'm saying six miles.
I don't know exactly. I would say around that, but, um, yeah, that's, that's, that's such a long way to go to school.
Like when I would wake up in the morning for school, I wouldn't want to even get out of my bed. I'd be like, no, the, the kitchen's too far away.
I want to walk all the way to get breakfast. You're walking six miles.
Yeah but that's that's just human nature you know like i'm walking six mine that i think is far but the other kids uh i walk in four miles someone i walk into someone i walk in one but even those who walk one thing is far and even if i was one mile away from school i would have think the same thing yeah it's just like human nature but when you don't have an option then you just get settled to what you have yeah yeah can i ask you a random question uh a video that i saw last year that was uh i mean it's just it's a hilarious video the time you accidentally uh pushed on a pole door and broke and shattered the door. Can you, what did the, what did the shop, did you see this video? I haven't seen this one.
Francis goes up to like, it looks like a seven 11 basically. And he was pushing on a pole door and he just shatters the door.
Didn't even look like you pushed it hard. What did the, what did the shop owner say? You paid for the door.
You're, you're a great guy. But what did the shop owner say you paid for the door you're you're a great guy but what did the shop owner say when he when he realized it was you and it wasn't just like oh someone had broken his door you know on purpose well i think what's happened is that you didn't follow back on that video otherwise you wouldn't find out that he was a uh he was a prime he was just something that we said oh that was a prank oh damn we got that makes sense you to fake news all right that was fake news that was a good prank it wasn't a fake it wasn't a fake news let's just say it was a little action you know like watch movie sometime i feel like an idiot now uh well yeah i'm seeing this video right i thought i thought it was real for a second yeah this is it's a well done fake news that very smart one.
A lot of people thought that. That was the point.
Got it. To make it feel real.
Yeah. That was the point.
You should do that in real life, though. You should do that to a door.
Just shatter it and make it reality. Well, if every door that I touch is going to break it, I think I will go broke.
Yeah, true. You got to pay for everything.
Either that or... But people see you coming and they walk out and they open the door for you.
You'll never have to walk through another door in your life. No.
Or people just set a fake door so you're going to keep paying. One of my favorite questions to ask fighters, how's camp going? How has this camp been? It's been a good camp? Tough camp? How, like, you know, in terms of, like, diet, exercise, everything, how's camp going? It's going well.
Okay. I mean, tough camp, I think a camp has to be tough.
So, yeah, tough on your body, tough on everything, you know, tough on your mental because, like, you put yourself in a different condition you know um get you know a very hard discipline and stuff and everything you're always tough but you know it's easy uh is the part of the game yeah it's a process how fun is it to get to put the weight back on after a weigh-in well uh i don don't have that much weight to put in. I don't deal with weight loss so much.
So at least for that, I'm happy. Yeah, you're good? You're good? Yeah, I managed to lose weight during my calm because I might have maybe what maybe five to ten pounds which is not too much and over a couple weeks of training you you're almost there and if at the end you you have something is like two pounds which is nothing yeah do you have a strategy at the weigh-in for how to get inside your opponent's head? Do you try to play mind games? No.
I don't have that because it's not my game, but because we play physical games. And what happens if the guy is not receptive to your game, if he's strong enough for you not to penetrate into his mind, then he penetrates into yours.
Because you think you're into somebody's mind while you're not, then in fact who is in who's mind? That's a good point. I also think that you just showing up is more than enough, just like you physically standing there is more than enough to penetrate into someone's mind you don't have to say anything yeah i think that happens sometimes you know there's um you know like uh behind our um keyboard sometimes we can type stuff talk a lot of shit and then you get into a way in sometime with somebody let's look at him and And you can see in his eye like, what the fuck do I just put myself into? But I'm like, bro, it's late.
Now it's going down. Yeah, yeah.
You have to back your world. Yeah.
Your world. All right, so I got a couple last questions.
Everyone, again, Battle of the Giants, Nganu versus Ferreira, goes down Saturday, October 19th at 4 p.m. Eastern on ESPN Plus Pay-Per-View and DAZN Pay-Per-View.
Do you want to give us a prediction for the fight? Some prediction? I think the best prediction is me going out with my hand raised. Okay, okay.
Okay, I like that. Yeah.
I like that. And then you go ahead, PFT.
I was going to say, do you have any plans on going back to boxing after this? Yeah, of course. That's what I just said earlier.
Yeah. You're going to go back.
Like, I think I have some couple of boxing match. All right.
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I got to ask. Is that a question? yeah that well that was the the lead up to the question i gotta i gotta ask i am i am a huge huge jackass fan uh what was it like hanging out with those guys and doing a video with them and punching them because i just i i love jackass from you know 20 years ago so was that what was it like being with those guys and around those guys? He was nuts.
Good. Like, for real, like, when I get there, I thought he was a movie star that you're going to pretend and do something, and then I use special effect.
So you just say, you know, you're going to hit for real. I'm like really they say yes so I turn around

and I asked my team that do we have some waiver here that is signed that I'm not going to be sued from hurting somebody from these you know and they say no it's good we always do or everything is authentic we don't pretend here and I'm And then, yes, I have to hit this guy in the nuts.

And I was so worried.

I was so stressed that I couldn't hit properly at first.

And then I'm like, no, bro.

It's not real.

It's not how you hit.

Like, you're going to start again.

And the guy is there screaming like, ah. I'm like, so I it again i'm like yes for real i'm like okay well if we're here let's do it then it's incredible i mean that's those guys are the best did they did they when you were on set with them did they try to prank you at all no okay that was smart of that good job yeah that was smart to leave you alone because they usually they usually try to fuck with everyone who goes

on set no like i mean i think that was their way to fuck with me because i didn't know it was real i was going to do it do it for real yeah like i put a 18 ounce glove and they say you're gonna hit as hard as you can. I'm like, what happens if it explodes? Yeah.
Like, how come? At which moment a human being started to think of such a thing? Yeah, it's crazy. I don't think that as a fighter you've trained to a point where you feel comfortable just winding up and hitting a guy in the dick, right? you don't that's never something that you can practice definitely not definitely not well um francis

thank you so much we'll be watching october 19th 4 p.m eastern uh you know espn plus pay-per-view

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We got fire fest of the week.

Henry,

Danny,

what's up?

What's up?

Not much.

What's up with you?

JC,

you trying to get me in a bit?

Did he do up dog to you?

Did you get up dog? Fire fest. Sounds like you had a good week yeah not much um he just answered what's up with you what's up not much what's up with you you're looking at it it's cool all right yeah there was really pretty basic week

this doesn't even know if I should say it. Say it.
All right. We had an event at the office last night.
Did not drink. There was an espresso martini Stella Blue Station.
I got a regular espresso at like 6 o'clock. Got home.
Was tired. Got into bed.
Wide awake. Wired.
Stayed up till 3. No big deal.
New Stella Blue. New Stella Blue.
We got Bully Beans. Bully Beans.
I think I got the Bully Beans because they worked. I was wired.
And Butter Cookie's back as well. So you stayed up till 3 a.m.? Yeah, I just watched Queen's Gamb that's a good show had you seen it before yeah i just i was like oh this was a good show and i watched it the first time and then i forgot the whole premise well embarrassing story this is a fire fest a retroactive fire fest okay first time i watched that show i was like this show's really good avoided the internet kind of and then once it ended i like went to look up like wikipedia like what a crazy story it's just not true you thought it was based on true story because surely they wouldn't make a tv show about chess unless it was like a real story yeah 100 but it is a great great show yeah it is yeah oh i'm sorry you didn't sleep did you sleep in no i got up got up went to the gym eight o'clock well friday you can you have off.
No, I'll be here for a little bit. How long? Why is Friday your last day of golf? It's my last planned day.
No, but I don't see. I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
I haven't golfed in the last three weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if this is it.
Damn. That's how long it takes to break a habit, right? Is it 21 days? Yeah.
Can you do a little putting your clubs away for the winter video for us? Yeah. See you again.
Yeah. Do that for us.
But don't put them all away. You never know.
Yeah. Well, it'll be me putting them away in the simulator.
It's going to be really nice next week, right? Is it? I think so. I think it is.
But the weekdays, the weekend, that's how fast it took for Hank. No, no, no.
It's only... Weekdays you can go? No, I can't.
You know what? Oh, yeah. Hank, it's going to be 74 Sunday, 75 on Monday, 70 Tuesday.
Yeah, you're back. I'm a weekend golfer.
You're back. We'll see.
Sunday's a weekend. Yeah.
No, it's not. PFT.
Are we going to get to the weekend debate again? Yeah, it's a weekend in theory, but I'll be here for 14 hours. What about the morning? Go early.
All right. PFT.
A couple of fire fests. First is I got the car back, so I guess it's a pre-fire.
Hell yes. It's a pre-fire fest.
I drove it all the way from the repair shop, which is about an hour and 15 minutes away. so I think it's probably pre hell yes it's a pre-fire fest i drove it all the way from the repair shop which is about an hour and 15 minutes away so i think it's probably out of gas right now so we'll see if it starts up after i have to leave to hour and 15 minutes back roads yeah back roads did not take the highway on the way back i learned my lesson uh the other fire fest also has to deal with last night so we had a big event at the the office here.
And our good friend Jersey Jerry got very dressed up. Yes.
He put on a suit. He was looking to close some deals.
In fact, he came up to me and he said, PFT, what are you looking to do tonight? Are you looking to close deals for part of my take? Are you looking to close deals personally? I was like, I'm just going to talk to people and meet advertisers. And so he asked me that question, I think, for a reason.
But we were hanging out, myself, Chaps, Donnie, and we just talked to Jersey Jerry. And then we came up with an idea for a little prank on a good friend, Jersey Jerry.
Yep. Which was we tried to find an advertiser that was walking around that was cool, that was a listener, fan of the show, fan of of barstool and to get them to go up to jersey jerry and tell jerry that they were from pfizer and they wanted to do an advertisement with jersey jerry obviously jersey jerry live of the year yep uh so loves pfizer loves pfizer and he whenever he sees john legend or travis kelsey on tv just he just turns bright red and starts sweating he's like fuck these guys fuck these guys yep so um we found a couple people that were into playing along with this they went up to jerry and uh they gave jerry a pitch that they wanted to personally sponsor jerry for i think seven hundred thousand dollars um and jerry immediately said yes and went running across the room to get a salesperson to close the deal so that was funny.
Jerry got upset about it. I think he blamed you.
I think he went over. PFT, he made me swear on my kid's life that I didn't set him up, which I was happily.
I had no idea you guys were doing this. I was aware because Max told me afterwards.
So I was like, yeah, I'll swear on my kid's life. I literally did not set you up.
It was someone else. But yeah, he was like, swear on your kid's life.
Then he came up to me hot. You were the last person he expected it was.
He thought when it wasn't, when he knew it wasn't you, he came up to me. He almost like put me, put me in like a chokehold.
Yeah. Couldn't reach your neck.
So then I come to find out that there actually were two people from Pfizer that were walking around last night.

So then that screwed me all up because I'm like,

what if they were actually trying to do a deal with Jerry?

Right.

And they go up to Jerry and they try to close the deal.

Jerry, he'll like flip them off and run away.

Yeah.

So Jerry's very, very upset at a lot of people.

We do have video footage of the conversation happening.

Jerry has said that he does not consent to the video. I don't what that means it was just on the security camera okay um but jerry says he doesn't consent all right he doesn't get so i don't know are we allowed to put that out just blur his face out we can blur trace it could be blur out his tattoos yeah blur out jerry's face it could be anybody um but yeah i think we do have security footage of it but jerry's upset and uh i maybe there's a chance that we accidentally ruined a possible actual deal but he would have done the deal with fives oh he agreed to it yeah he agreed to it immediately yeah immediately you can see good to know in the video you can see they're just like making pleasantries and then you can see the exact second where dollars and cents get mentioned okay so we'll blur out the jerry's face in the jerry video yeah yeah but it's and we'll title a jerry agreeing to a deal with pfizer yep it could be anybody though it could be anyone um all right my fire fest is uh i've been betrayed by someone in this room this room not this room this room and this okay i've been betrayed by someone in this room in the studio pug Pug? Some memes.
Nope. That guy.
Stare me right now. So we have a lot of people working here.
I love my job. I love Barstool Sports.
Oh. One of the parts of Barstool Sports, and I understand it, PFT and I are going to turn 40 soon.
We have hired some younger people, and part of the younger people crew is a couple younger girls that terrorized me by putting me in their TikToks, and I feel so fucking old, and they say shit like, hey, are you going to go to the John Summit concert? And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? But Ella, who I like, is an Indiana grad, and she is going to... We're doing a show, a college football show.
Come out to the college football show this is great 1030 in the morning on Saturday we'll be there she's an Indiana grad she's going to the game and she's trying to get me to go to Kilroy's after the game I explained to you should go I explained to Ella as clearly as I could that I will be by the time the ball gets kicked off I will most likely likely be back home in Chicago. Do you remember we went to Kilroy's? Yeah, Kilroy's great.
It's nothing against Kilroy's, but it's everything about the fact that I'm 39 and have three kids and I work nonstop and I don't have time to go to. I would love nothing more.
I would love nothing more than to spend an afternoon at Kilroy's getting shit face. I believe me.
That would be great. It's also not not it's not a place for people in their upper 30s because we went there a couple years ago and we went upstairs and i think we were up there for like maybe 10 minutes it's an awesome

bar i had a blast yeah it's a great bar it's a great place don't get me wrong i love the people

at kilroy's we did a t-shirt deal with kilroy's 10 years ago for the black i love kilroy's it has

nothing to do with kilroy's it has to do with uh the fact that I'm old and I can't like continue with the. Yeah, I'm getting back to it.
So I told Ella this. I said, I'm not going to Kilroy's.
It's just not happening. I appreciate the offer.
I love Kilroy's not going to happen. I then got a text from Ella.
She's like, hey, Max gave me your phone number. Can we set up a deal? Hey, Big Cat, it's Ella.
Max gave me your number. Headed to IU right now.
Since you decided to bring your show to my alma mater on my grand weekend return, I would like to offer you my Kilroy's tab for my game day table if IU wins. So I have to pay her tab if IU wins.
That's right. Oh, no.
I get the tab. I get the fully expensed tab.
That's right. Table fully expensed.
Oh, no. Wait.
On you if IU goes 7-0. What the hell is this deal? So I have to pay her if IU wins? So she's making an offer to you.
Her bet is you have to pay for my drinks if we win. Either way, she shouldn't have my number to text me about Kilroy's.

Who did that?

You know who did it. She said who did it.

As we were walking out, she went up to Hank

and Hank was like, yeah, just say it was Max that gave

you that. Oh, you fucker.

Well, no, she was like...

What a plot twist that was. That's like in Saw

where that guy that's in the room... What did you say, Max?

The entire time. I did say whatever.
I don't care.

Yeah. Oh, alright.
Well, I was betrayed.

I was...

I mean, she was basically trying to figure out a way, asking me, how can I help get this table paid for? And there was a bunch of people just joking around. And I was like, oh, I actually first said, go ask Big Cat if you can use his card for the weekend, which obviously was a joke then she was like oh you think i should text him i was like yeah text him tell max told you well i just replied to her because i hadn't replied to her i said i respectfully decline thank you for the consideration i these girls just terrorize me because they're just young and they just know shit that i don't know and they just say words to me that i don't know what's the question they asked you are you gonna go see John summit is that like a is that he's John summit he's next up DJ I know he's already who's now he's already yeah I was there because when I heard that I thought is John summit is that code for like meet in the bathroom PFT our conversation was this this is how our conversation no this is how our conversation went they said are you gonna go weekend? I said, who? And they said, he's the best DJ in the world.
And I said, what happened to Diplo? And then they laughed in my face. Yes, that's tough.
That's exactly how it went down. What about Shaq? Shaq's a good DJ.
Yeah. So thank you, Hank.
Yeah, I mean, you're like the patriarch of this office. I think it's good for employees to have your number.
That's fair. Yeah, that's what I needed.
That's a good point. I needed that.
She's going to FaceTime me from Kilroy's, and that's going to be so awesome. I'm going to really enjoy that.
And it's nothing against Ella. She's...
Sounds like you're mad. No, she's...
No, you. She's 20...
Max. She's 23 years old.
She should be doing exactly... She should be going to...
You should be going to Kilroy's, having the time of her life. She's done nothing wrong.
You have enabled it. My problem is there was no downside to this bet.
This wasn't even a bet. It was just like, hey, if we win, you're paying.
And probably if I in their seven point favorites. What if they lose? Yeah, I don't know.
Fired. She's probably so anxious.
She probably woke up so anxious waiting for a text. And then she got she's definitely freaking out about that text about that text yeah and oh i'm gonna say thank i respectfully pass thank you for your consideration and i've fired max for giving my number away what is she gonna say she's gonna she's gonna snitch or is it test for her that is a good test yeah what if she tells the truth will you pay for the Bartab, this good test we'll see yeah then she's fired yeah okay she's not fired she does a good job and hannah terrorizes me as well but i got her back because chaps does his videos and she didn't know where france was neither did max i was there yeah that's true i got to watch it live though it's great max you don't know where france is actually we're in france i know and people keep saying know and people keep saying that to me Because when you were on that live stream Everybody was like I see Paris I see France Oh so funny I'm just going to start using I had multiple underwear companies coming up to me last night Oh I love I'm going to start weaponizing chaps That's what I'll do Because every time they put me in a TikTok And I don't understand a trend, I'm just going to be like, chaps, go up and ask them, like, what color is the sun? And that will be funny for me.
So I got my ways. Yeah, I'm dumb.
I'm dumb. I'm scared.
I'm scared of the use of America. That shouldn't be a surprise.
Max, you got a Fyre Fest? Yeah, but we don't have to talk about it. Underwear? Underwear companies? Underwear? No, I almost got into a new place i've had auto pay i never actually what you had auto pay i've had auto pay in my last two apartments so i don't really think about it and then oh no i had to prorate it so they said you can't set up auto pay until your next thing so how many months late were you no i was i was like five days and then someone i wasn't even home someone apparently my girlfriend said that someone came knocking on the door like really like and then just threw a piece of paper at her and just said from your landlord oh shit addiction notice was this a situation like steven che when he bought he got a new car and he thought he set up auto pay, but he just paid one time for automobile pay? No, this was me just forgetting that I wasn't on auto pay anymore.
But now my girlfriend texted me. She's like, you have to pay right now.
I just got this. Pay it an hour.
What's up with the jacket today? You look good. Everyone keeps asking me this.
But you know what? We were saying this the other day uh this is like the biggest fashion police but no building in the world the culture we've created at barstool sports which i i i welcome is that if you try to better yourself even a little bit you get shamed to hell but that's how it should i'm gonna start we all need to stay exactly where we are no i'm No better. This is the only place in the world where you can show up to work wearing a T-shirt and jeans and everyone would be like, whoa, you have a date tonight, dude? Yeah, what are you doing? It has a button down.
I'm like, who died? Last week I came and I wore a polo shirt and then I was wearing like just jeans and Mad Dog was like, look at you. That's the meanest look at you I've ever gotten.
I wore a flannel the other day and KB was like, why are you trying so hard? Yeah. If I have a button on.
Jerry said that exact same thing to me today. I love it.
He said, why are you trying so hard? It's as toxic of a culture as you can get. I'm going to look nice.
Tomorrow I might. No, I won't.
But it's actually the nice part about it is equal opportunity because anyone who tries to wear anything nice gets shamed instantly.

Across the board.

We should do a dress up nice week.

Built for comfort, not for speed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had to wear jeans yesterday.

It sucked.

I'm a joggers guy now.

Throwing through.

All right.

Numbers.

Three.

11.

Five.

99.

17.

What?

Oh, mean Shit!

Who said what?

Pug

Can't do that

Big-ass sergeant

99

I like this

His desperation move

How do you say?

Oh, 99 actually came up yesterday

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One of the pick a number And 99 came up yesterday. One of the advertisers, one of the pick a number, and 99 came up.

Six.

Six.

One off.

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