Kyle Rudolph In Studio, Francis Ngannou Via Hologram, Saints Are On Quit Watch, NFL Week 7 Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Kyle Rudolph, old friend of the show, in studio.
Awesome interview.

Speaker 1 Awesome catching up with him, talking football, talking the end of his career, Tom Brady, everything. And then we have the first ever Pardon My Take hologram interview.

Speaker 1 Francis Nagano, we had a hologram machine in the office, in the studio. It was wild.

Speaker 6 It's like a six-dimensional video that you're watching online right now. You get the experience of us, and then you get to look at.
I don't know what the hologram is going to look like. I don't know.

Speaker 6 You're going to have to watch the episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it was very cool. It was cool.
So, Francis Gano, really cool guy.

Speaker 1 We also have NFL week seven picks in preview, Fantasy Fuck Boys. We're going to talk some playoff baseball.
We're going to talk Thursday night football. We got Fire Fest.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, October 18th, and Bo Nicks, baby.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Bo Nix. Bo Nix, he did it tonight.
Kind of. He did all of it tonight.

Speaker 1 The Broncos Rushing game did it a lot.

Speaker 6 If you've ever wondered what Taysom Hill would look like if he was a little bit better at passing and a little bit worse at running, you got the full Bo Nix

Speaker 6 Taysom Hill experience tonight because Sean Payton was doing the old Taysom Hill playbook for Bo Nicks, and nobody loves calling their own number more than Bo Nix.

Speaker 6 He drops back, like he does the five-step drop, looks one way, and he's like, fuck, Bo Nicks has to run this ball.

Speaker 1 Bo Nix has to run this ball or throw it in between two wide-open receivers.

Speaker 1 So when you were like, Bo Nix was fun a couple weeks ago, I was like, I don't know. And I was thinking more about Oregon Bo Nix.
Watching tonight, like being able to take in a full Bo Nix

Speaker 1 game without any other games going on, it's Auburn Bo Nicks, and I'll agree he is fun because he just, you don't know if it's going to be the worst pass or the best pass every single time he throws.

Speaker 6 We had full-blown bow tonight. Yeah.
He was doing Knicks on it.

Speaker 1 And it was the Broncos running game. They ran it down their face.
I think they had over 200 yards rushing, and the Saints are officially on quit watch.

Speaker 6 I would like to opt out of watching the Saints this year.

Speaker 1 That 2-0 start, baby.

Speaker 6 How bad is Dallas?

Speaker 6 That's what tonight really told me. How bad are the Dallas Cowboys? Yeah.
Now, obviously, Derek Carr not playing. That has a little bit to do with it, I think.

Speaker 6 But the fact remains that the Saints, they're old, they're not fun, and they're not getting any younger or more fun.

Speaker 6 Because right now, we've talked for the last like five years about how the Saints have just been in cap hell their entire life, or the entire at least, like, feels like the last decade.

Speaker 6 Right now, they own, this is from Jason OTC. They have only three players on the salary cap who would save the team more than $3 million in cap room next year if they cut.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 6 So their current 2025 salary cap position is the worst in the NFL. Again.
And how bad is it, Big Cat? How bad? It's 75 million more in cap commitments than the next worst team.

Speaker 9 Jesus.

Speaker 1 And this is what happened.

Speaker 6 We're currently witnessing cap hell.

Speaker 1 And they also are, like, when I say quit watch, obviously injuries happen, but when key players start being like hamstring injury,

Speaker 1 a weird knee injury, and you're like, did we even see him get injured? It might be quick time. Dennis Allen, Richard Sermon said at halftime, he's like, they're trying to get Dennis Allen fired.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 1 And the Saints are just like, this was, so this was a bad game, but I kind of enjoyed it just for the fact that like Thursday night football, the last two weeks, we've had really good games.

Speaker 1 Thursday night football should be bad. We should just embrace the bad and just like, just bathe in just shitty, gross football because you know you got all the football coming up.

Speaker 1 It's like the entry point to the weekend. And I kind of enjoyed the fact, like even that first pass that Bo Nix had where he split his wide receivers that were both

Speaker 1 as wide open as you can.

Speaker 6 And you missed both of them equally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 but yeah, it was bad football from the Saints.

Speaker 2 Better football from the Broncos.

Speaker 1 Broncos are feisty. Their defense is good.
Patrick Sertan wasn't even playing.

Speaker 1 And Bo Nix, he's a roller coaster.

Speaker 6 He is a roller coaster.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, it's funny that you bring up like what Thursday Night Football used to be because it's the one thing we, you know, old people like to be like, back in my day, everything was better.

Speaker 6 No, it's like, back in my day, Thursday night football was shit. Sucks.
If you get good Thursday night games, that's not what Thursday Night Football is.

Speaker 6 Thursday Night Football, I think, is at its peak when Al Michaels is actively complaining about how shitty the game is.

Speaker 1 When I think Thursday Night Football, I think Broncos Colts last year, two years ago. Matt Ryan versus Russ Wilson.

Speaker 6 That was bad.

Speaker 1 And it still will come because as the season goes on, the Thursday night football games get worse. That happens every year.
Early season Thursday night football, you can get some good shootouts.

Speaker 1 Then, as the season goes along and everyone's banged up, it just gets worse and worse and worse. And I love it.
I love it. So, Broncos,

Speaker 1 I mean, they're four and three. Sean Payton's doing a pretty good job.
That Bonix

Speaker 1 design run on fourth and one was nice. That was some Sean Payton's, like, I got both.
Like you said, I have Taysom Hill in Bo Nicks.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he's running the Taysom Hill playbook. And Bonix, he's not a great passer yet.
He's not afraid to throw the ball, but he's not very good at doing it.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 But he's better at passing than Taysom is. Yes.
He's just not as physical of a runner, but they're doing like the exact same plays that they used to do with Taysom.

Speaker 6 I'm looking at the schedule for Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 1 We have a couple.

Speaker 6 Vikings play next week, but it's at the Rams. Then we have Texans Jets.
That's going to be

Speaker 1 good. On Halloween.

Speaker 6 Texans at Jets.

Speaker 1 Okay, but that will be gross.

Speaker 1 Like, it will be a good, like, that's a good game on paper, but that will be a gross game because you know both defenses will just have their way, and it will be like frustrated Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 And it's on Halloween, so there might be somebody in the stands that's dressed up as a fireman, and who knows if he's going to get on the Jumbotron.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a great Sunday game and a bad Thursday game.

Speaker 6 I agree. I agree.
And then Bengals at Ravens. That will be fun.
That'll be fun. Then we got Commanders at Eagles for a perm.

Speaker 1 Week 12, Steelers-Browns. I'm looking forward to that one.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That one's going to be great.

Speaker 6 Can I take the under, all right? What do you think? Let's guess the spread in advance.

Speaker 6 Thursday night, November 21st, Steelers at Browns, Thursday night.

Speaker 1 35.5.

Speaker 1 If Deshaun's still playing,

Speaker 6 is it going to be Russie or is it going to be Jussie?

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be back to Jussie.

Speaker 6 Back to Jussie. I'm going to say, yeah, 34.

Speaker 6 And I'm probably going to take the over and is probably going to lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so we also had some playoff baseball happen. Unbelievable comeback by the Guardians.
They were down 2-0.

Speaker 1 They were down. They were up 3-1.
And then Klasse comes in,

Speaker 1 who has been their lights-out closer, blows the game, season's over, down 3-0.

Speaker 1 It's all for not.

Speaker 6 It was back-to-back dingers by Judge and Stanton.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then the Guardians just hit just two huge bombs, a walk-off and one in the ninth, or no, was it the ninth? Two outs. Two outs in the ninth, and they're down two.

Speaker 1 That's the beauty of playoff baseball. It's like, do I think the Guardians are going this series? No, but that type of game, you just never know.

Speaker 6 Do you see the video of the stadium?

Speaker 6 They got got the the audio reaction to the stadium from like a mile away it was rocking and it was sick it was incredible i the guardians i think they'll win one more game i think the yankees are are the best

Speaker 1 six

Speaker 8 whoever wins the next game oh you think

Speaker 1 wait wait but no the series doesn't start until the road team wins a game right arod taught me that I'm just happy for Guardians fans because that felt like it was just going to be doom and gloom, no chance to even celebrate.

Speaker 1 You know, you beat the Tigers, obviously, but then you go to the Yankees and you get swept or losing five. But that was an awesome, awesome scene.
And now they got hope, and now they got life.

Speaker 6 Now they don't have to go back to the Browns. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the Mets are

Speaker 1 memes.

Speaker 10 The game's not over.

Speaker 1 It is 7-2. We still have 3.
We still have -

Speaker 10 3-1 more innings.

Speaker 1 Nine more outs. There's nine more outs.
So if we are wrong.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 10 If we're wrong up to this point,

Speaker 1 we're dead. Okay.
But I was going to say, if we're wrong,

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 the Thursday Night Football game was so bad, we're like, all right, we can just start recording. And this Mets Dodgers game 7-2.

Speaker 1 If we're wrong, before we get to our picks and preview, I want a solo three minutes of memes. Three minutes of memes just going like coward, just talking.
Memes Francesa? Yeah, memes Francesa.

Speaker 1 You could do three minutes. But I need it to be three minutes.
I don't want you to be like, you know, what? And no Jets talk.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 6 you can't do karaoke tequila either. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll get Puget. Pug as a co-host.
Oh, yeah. Pug can be your co-host.

Speaker 6 No, Pug should open up the three minutes with 30 seconds of Pug.

Speaker 1 You know, I want Pug and memes in these seats. Okay.
Yeah. That would be...

Speaker 1 I mean, now I'm kind of rooting for the Mets to come back. And if the Mets come back, then we should have seen that coming.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Because this is what the Mets do.
That's true. Although, unfortunately, they didn't come back.
They lost.

Speaker 1 It feels like the magic, the Dodgers are just too good and get too many. They have too many dudes.
And like, I mean, it started with Shohei hitting a bomb in the first.

Speaker 1 That home run he hit on Wednesday night, that was a, he put it on the moon in the stadium. Did they see it?

Speaker 6 Did they measure how far it went? I know it was the upper deck, like the middle of the upper deck, but was there a tape measure on there?

Speaker 1 Max is going to look it up. Okay.
Max is going to look it up.

Speaker 2 Max is going to look it it up.

Speaker 6 Because sometimes those balls that go into the upper deck, I expect them to come back and say this is a 470-foot home run, and they say it's like 390.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it's the height. Yeah, the height of it.

Speaker 6 The height is overrated. I've always said that.

Speaker 1 He's going to look it up.

Speaker 10 Max said he's struggling.

Speaker 10 Too many leadoff walks, though, for the Mets given to the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 And Johe finally got a hit. when there were no runners on base.
That was a weird stat that he had.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now he's one for 21.

Speaker 6 1 for 21 in the playoffs with runners on base, which is crazy. At some point, you have to think about not having him hit leadoff, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you'd think so. What is it? What do we got? Struggling.
Max can't show. Struggling.

Speaker 6 Go to stat cast.

Speaker 1 Just go to the box score.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought I realized that right when I said I was struggling. Come on, Max.

Speaker 2 Come on, Max.

Speaker 6 All right, how far do you think it was, Big Cat?

Speaker 1 I think it was.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 They always. Those upper deckers are the best.

Speaker 6 Bill Spencer Rattler just threw

Speaker 6 the most Jameis Winston interception knock ever thrown by Jameis Winston.

Speaker 1 And the Broncos are going to score again. I'm going to say it was 4.38.

Speaker 1 Oh! 397? That's bullshit.

Speaker 6 That is bullshit, right? That went halfway

Speaker 1 back. That's wrong.
I don't trust that shit. 32-3 is a very funny score.
Ooh, maybe Scorigami. I'm going to look up Scorigami.

Speaker 6 Might be a Scorigami. That would make.

Speaker 1 33 is a tough number to hit.

Speaker 1 That doesn't feel like a football number.

Speaker 6 No. 33?

Speaker 1 Because you get 34 sometimes.

Speaker 1 It makes sense. 35, obviously.

Speaker 1 Spencer Rattler. I feel bad for Spencer Rattler.
He doesn't really. He's lost his entire offensive line.
Olave was out.

Speaker 1 Shahid was out.

Speaker 1 Brutal.

Speaker 6 I think they had eight starters out today.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I think they had three actual starters on offense that were playing yeah um okay uh do we have anything else uh and maybe we'll maybe we'll have memes on in a second and not uh us no there's no chance there's no chance it means they gotta run around base i'm rooting for it memes i would love to see if it gets tied you still have to do it

Speaker 1 i'm in not even a win yeah Yeah, if it gets tied, that would be crazy if it got 7-7.

Speaker 1 What would he talk about? He'd talk about them losing and coming all the way back.

Speaker 6 You'd have to do, it's three minutes of Mets content.

Speaker 1 Three minutes of Mets content. Do you want to just do it anyway? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I kind of want to see it. No.
Pugging memes in the big chair.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be here. I thought we were going to have an early night.
Yeah, all right. Okay.
All right. Let's kick it to ourselves.
Let's talk some week seven NFL picks and preview.

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Speaker 1 We're ready to go. Uh, a disclaimer before we start this week, and this is more of a PSA for everyone out there, but really for myself.

Speaker 1 If you are sitting here and listening to this right now and you said to yourself, man, I crushed last weekend. I had it.
Well, not you, Hank. We know that.
I had the best weekend of the year.

Speaker 1 I'm smart. I know this league.
I know exactly what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Just remember that on Monday, it was reported that it was the worst weekend Vegas has had in like 20 years. Really makes me feel like a sucker.

Speaker 6 It was one of the best weekends for favorites of all time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. So this is a trap weekend.
Watch out. Don't fall for the traps.

Speaker 6 Come in your trap. Take your trap.
Yeah, Kirk.

Speaker 1 Kirkuzzo.

Speaker 1 Memes, how do you feel about screwing that quote up? And how many times did people get mad at you online?

Speaker 1 Which quote? The Kirk Cousins one. Come in your trap, steal your trap.
Take your trap. Come in your trap.

Speaker 2 Take your trap.

Speaker 6 Come in your trap. Pull out of your trap.

Speaker 1 Take your trap.

Speaker 6 Come on and tell me. Who's messed up?

Speaker 1 Well, you said Kirk Cousins talking about his upcoming game in Seattle.

Speaker 1 He was talking about his game in.

Speaker 1 Wait, whoa, Tony Bennett is retiring? Breaking Breaking moves, the singer,

Speaker 1 breaking moves. Virginia head coach Tony Bennett is retiring.

Speaker 1 What the hell,

Speaker 1 man, memes off the hook.

Speaker 6 So, is Virginia gonna be fun this year?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's they can't, they can't do that.

Speaker 6 They can't, you can't do a switch, right? No, you can't just switch up your style. No, that's a weird out-of-noherence.

Speaker 9 And then, who's gonna take his spot and is

Speaker 6 probably gonna be an assistant, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I always wanted Tony Bennett to come to Wisconsin, But,

Speaker 1 wow, Tony Bennett retiring. Okay.

Speaker 1 Memes, comment on the screwing up of that quote.

Speaker 1 I'll take full accountability. Okay.
Okay, good. All right, good.
I'll take full accountability.

Speaker 6 There's a trust issue with when I send stuff to Shane.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 10 And I didn't overlook it when sending, and that happens.

Speaker 1 Did you send talking about his upcoming game in Seattle?

Speaker 2 I sent him the video. Oh, and Shane editorialized.

Speaker 7 But you're going to take accountability.

Speaker 1 Because I press send. I just didn't read it.

Speaker 6 It was walk into your trap, take over your trap. Yeah, he was talking about the Panthers.

Speaker 1 That was the main quote. Kirk Cousins has become the most Atlanta guy in the world.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 6 Nothing brings me more joy than just seeing, like, after a game when Kirk Cousins puts on his little mascot chains. Yeah.
And everybody claps for him. Like, look at our little boy jumping around.

Speaker 6 It's the best.

Speaker 1 It's the best.

Speaker 6 He does the Taylor Swift dance, the swag surf. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Swag and surf.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 London. Let's start there.
Hank,

Speaker 1 will you be waking up for this game? Yes, bruv.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 14 Yes, bro.

Speaker 1 The whole game.

Speaker 6 You're in London time.

Speaker 1 Drake May. Yeah.
In London, going up against the Jaguars. How are we feeling?

Speaker 8 This is a trap game. You said this is the trap week.

Speaker 1 I don't know if this is.

Speaker 6 I don't think the Patriots can have a trap game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, neither can the Jaguars.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's untrappable.

Speaker 8 But the Jaguars are.

Speaker 1 I guess the Jaguars could be a trap game, game, but not against another one in five team.

Speaker 8 But the Jaguars are rested.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 But you knew that. So that's a trap that you know.

Speaker 8 But I think people are.

Speaker 8 I'm just worried that, you know. The Jaguars are favorites, aren't they?

Speaker 2 Yeah, they are five and a half points.

Speaker 1 Can that be a trap game if you're not going to be able to get it for the Patriots? Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 You can't have a trap game.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of people out there

Speaker 1 about Earth Mike.

Speaker 8 The Patriots, Drake May looked really good, explosive offense.

Speaker 2 But you lost by 20.

Speaker 8 The Jaguars are terrible, but there were some fluky turnovers. Okay.
The Jaguars are bad. This is going to be Drake May's coming out show, and I'm just worried that the travel,

Speaker 8 the Jaguars being activated, not traveling.

Speaker 8 I'm just worried that people think that this is going to be Drake May's coming out party, and it just might not be yet.

Speaker 6 God, okay. Are these people in the room with us right now?

Speaker 8 No, I'm prepared for the trap. I'm not falling into that trap.

Speaker 1 You're not going to back into the trap.

Speaker 6 Are you going to take over the trap?

Speaker 8 Not the London trap.

Speaker 1 I think that Drake May is going to have a good game. Are you worried about his health?

Speaker 8 He got an MRI. That was a scary.

Speaker 1 Was that a real story? Yes.

Speaker 1 Who reported it?

Speaker 8 I thought a lot of people did.

Speaker 1 I saw last night

Speaker 1 the Patriots reporter Ben Volan, I think, was the one who reported it. No one else reported it except him.

Speaker 8 I just saw that he took an MRI, and then afterward, there's no concerns after the NRI.

Speaker 1 And then I saw a tweet from an account saying, Mr. Fill Me Up, who said I DM'd Ben Volan and told him him Drake May had an MRI.
Hope this helps.

Speaker 6 So it might have been he might have.

Speaker 1 It could have been a fake MRI.

Speaker 6 He might have eaten the trash.

Speaker 1 It might have been a fake MRI or a fake MRI story.

Speaker 7 Drake May was a full participant at practice.

Speaker 8 There is no great concern regarding his injury.

Speaker 1 And NFL Networks insiders, Ian Rapport, Mike Garifolo, that was the follow-up that they, I think, only one guy reported that he had an MRI.

Speaker 6 May was on the Patriots' injury report. Yeah.
So the team actually listed him on there with a knee injury. The Patriots would never play fast and loose with the league's injury policy.

Speaker 8 They did not deny him having an MRI.

Speaker 1 But they did not confirm it either. Correct.

Speaker 2 That would be funny, though, if he got caught by some guy being like, hey, Hurdie got an MRI.

Speaker 1 I think the Patriots are going to be a live dog here.

Speaker 6 So I don't know how the Jaguars are favored.

Speaker 1 By five and a half.

Speaker 1 That's a lot. It's a lot.
It sounds like. A trap.

Speaker 6 A trap.

Speaker 1 To take the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 No, because they shouldn't be favored by five. If this line was three, I'd be like, oh, that makes sense.
They're five and a half point favorites over the Jaguars are bad.

Speaker 8 Which is why they're going to, you see that. You're like, the Jaguars are bad.
I'm going to take the Patriots.

Speaker 1 But the Patriots are also bad. You're forgetting that part of this equation.
But when you see

Speaker 1 the Jaguars are a trap game, but the Patriots are equally as bad as the game. I think you're just

Speaker 1 playing here.

Speaker 6 The line makes no sense. What's happening inside Hank's family?

Speaker 1 The Jaguars are really bad.

Speaker 6 What's happening inside Hank's head is that Hank is thinking about the Patriots as a collective football team that he knows and the Jaguars as a collective football team that he knows.

Speaker 6 And he's like, why are the Jaguars favored by five and a half?

Speaker 1 I think the Jaguars shouldn't be favored by five and a half over anyone, but the Patriots are also bad. I know.

Speaker 6 I don't think you can. It can't be a trap game if you're an underdog.

Speaker 8 Let me just.

Speaker 1 You struggle with me. Sound it up.
No, I know Big Show. Sound it out.
Sound it out. Sound it out.
Okay. Big Cat.

Speaker 8 Dan Katz. I think this line makes no sense.
The Jaguars shouldn't be favored five and a half versus anyone. The Patriots are going to be live dogs.
So it sounds like you're going to bet the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which probably that might be. No, it's not a trap.
I'm going to take the Patriots. Hank's talking about the trap.

Speaker 6 Hank is hypothesizing. You're saying there's too easy.
It's a double trap.

Speaker 1 So we should take the Jaguars. Yes.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 8 That's my point.

Speaker 2 Got it. I think you might be.

Speaker 6 That makes sense. You might be trapping yourself.
No.

Speaker 8 You guys just explained my whole point.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 when we first started this conversation, when you said trap game, I was thinking like a good team going to play a bad team, overlooking them. That's the the trap game.

Speaker 1 You're just talking strictly on the line. That's a trap.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you're overlooking how bad the Patriots are because the Jaguars are also bad.

Speaker 1 Okay, now it makes sense. So now I got to take the place.

Speaker 8 So you got to take the Patriots, but I don't think that's the right move.

Speaker 1 I have a positive Trevor Lawrence stat. Well, not positive, but more in Trevor Lawrence's defense.

Speaker 6 I think I have the same stat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the amount of drops? Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Trevor Lawrence, since coming into league in 2021, the Jaguars have dropped 113 passes per ESPN research, most in the league, and 21 more than the second-place team Kansas City. That's insane.

Speaker 6 It's also crazy that Kansas City has the second most.

Speaker 6 How many of those are Kadarius Toney? Yes. We have to account for that.
Also, I read something pretty interesting about Kansas City and their drop rate the other day.

Speaker 6 People think that their lights were fucked up for like the last seven years. Like the night games in the stadium,

Speaker 6 the light frequency, however, like whatever, like, I don't even know what you call it, but it was a type of light that didn't provide, it was almost like a mini-strobe effect, and it fucked up every single receiver that played there.

Speaker 6 Okay. And it was only in the night games, and it was for every team that was like statistically an outlier to every other night stadium.
So, that might explain part of it. Also, Kadarius Toney.

Speaker 6 Also, Kadarius Toney. But yeah, that is, it's something not bad for Trevor Lawrence.
Like, I've seen a lot of drops, especially this year. Yeah.

Speaker 6 His receivers have dropped some easy catches and easy touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Can I just say one thing about it? Because there were some Jaguars fans being like, the Jaguars dropped four touchdowns against the Bears. It would have been a different game.

Speaker 1 Three of them were on the same drive. You can't score three touchdowns on one drive.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a seven-point swing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they did drop a lot of balls. I said it on Sunday after the game.
I said exactly that. The Jaguars dropped a lot of balls, and Trevor Lawrence is not getting any favors.

Speaker 6 What about Sisko talking about quitting?

Speaker 6 Yeah. His teammates seem to kind of have his back.
So Andre Sisko after the game said,

Speaker 6 feel like, should I say this? A lot of quit.

Speaker 6 There was a lot of quit out there. We weren't playing as one.

Speaker 6 You don't like to use the Q word. There are two words you don't like to use in football, the Q word and the S word for soft.

Speaker 6 So when he said that we quit, at first I was like, sounds kind of weird to say that about your team. But then I thought about it and I was like, well, he's not wrong.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 Definitely not wrong. He's not wrong about it.
And I feel like his teammates were kind of in that same mindset where they're like, yeah, we fucking quit last week.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think this game comes down to, does anyone in that locker room like or feel good about Doug Peterson? Because if they do, they have to win this game to save his job.

Speaker 1 But if they they don't and want to quit, like, you kind of can get out of it because he's going to get fired if he loses this game, right? Right?

Speaker 6 Possible mutiny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, we know about that, Hank.

Speaker 6 Are you afraid of a mutiny? No.

Speaker 1 Hank, so I think Drake Roma's going to look good.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars' defense is bad.

Speaker 8 I hope so. I hope he's well-rusted.
He gets, you know, no funky stuff with the layover or anything. Yeah.

Speaker 6 When did they travel?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 Got to look into that. Because the Jaguars are acclimated.

Speaker 1 So what's your pick, Hank?

Speaker 8 My pick in this game. Yeah.
I have to make one.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Over. Okay.
All right. I like that.
Wembley. Wembley Stadium.
They have a half-retractable roof.

Speaker 6 So is it going to rain this weekend,

Speaker 1 I think so. So half of the field.

Speaker 6 It's going to rain on half the field?

Speaker 1 Half the field will be rain.

Speaker 6 I want to look up what the first half or first quarter line is even because the Patriots, I think they might be the worst team in the league in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 What about the second and third and fourth?

Speaker 6 Well, that's a different story. It's the first quarter.
But this would be the ultimate first quarter because it does include, like, if you see a team that sleep well

Speaker 6 there, where they're still getting acclimated to the game.

Speaker 1 And the Jaguars did win this spot last year against the Bills. Remember their second London game? And the Bills were pretty good last year and they beat the Bills.
So, yeah, I guess, fuck.

Speaker 2 I think Hank was right.

Speaker 1 I think this is a trap for the Patriots. Well, it's a trap for us.
One in five teams.

Speaker 6 It's a trap for us.

Speaker 1 Okay, so,

Speaker 1 yeah, are you finding it out? I'm looking. When do they go? What do you got, got, memes? Or Max? 60% rain now.
60% rain, but that's 30% rain with a half-retractable roof. Correct.

Speaker 1 I think they did that right.

Speaker 1 Half-retractable roof. I don't really understand it.
Oh, Max.

Speaker 6 You threw something. That's like SoFi, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, no, the lightning can come in.

Speaker 6 The lightning comes in, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, find that for us. We'll go to the next game, okay?

Speaker 1 Seahawks at Falcons. Seahawks at Falcons.

Speaker 1 I kind of like the Seahawks in this game.

Speaker 6 I think that the Seahawks, their defense isn't that far away.

Speaker 2 They've been injured.

Speaker 6 And yeah, they're dealing with a shitload of injuries, and they give up a lot of big plays. And I feel like that's a symptom of having a brand new defensive system that they're running with McDonald.

Speaker 6 But I feel like they're not far away because when they're not letting up the big plays, they're actually not that bad against the run.

Speaker 1 This also feels like

Speaker 1 a hungry dog runs faster game where you have the Seahawks on a three-game losing streak. And the one thing that I could point positive to Seahawks, well, actually, two things.

Speaker 1 One is from my friends at Sports Info Solutions. The Seahawks

Speaker 2 love to

Speaker 1 run plays against middle-of-the-field open cover two or four. The Falcons run a lot of that.
So there should be, Geno should be good today or Sunday.

Speaker 1 Also, the Falcons have no pass rush whatsoever. They are averaging less than a sack a game.
They didn't sack Andy Dalton once last week against the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Does feel like every Seahawks game we've watched the last few weeks, Geno Smith has been running for his life and been under pressure constantly. He might have some more time this week.

Speaker 6 I like the Seahawks.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he hasn't really been taking sacks, but he's been having to move around a lot and then just dumping the ball off or throwing it out of bounds and just firing something off that's not on target.

Speaker 6 Remember Matthew Judon? Yeah. He's on the Falcons.

Speaker 1 He is. Remember the guardrails?

Speaker 6 I do remember the guardrails.

Speaker 14 The guardrails were huge for this.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so

Speaker 6 I feel like the Seahawks are close. They're not good.
Their defense, don't get me wrong, their defense, especially their rush defense, is not good.

Speaker 6 I think it's the worst in the history of the Seattle Seahawks right now. But what I'm saying is they're not far from being good.
Yeah. They just got to fix a couple things.

Speaker 1 And the Falcons do run the ball well.

Speaker 1 I like the Seahawks in this spot. I like the Falcons overall, like for the rest of the year.
But I've also retracted my take. I've done some soul searching about the Bucs.

Speaker 1 I apologize for saying the Bucs aren't very good. It is 100% Che bias.
Yeah, I mean, I can read you like a book. No, everyone says it with deep-seated history.

Speaker 1 I had sat with Che for an entire game watching him, and it just sits with you. It really eats away at you.

Speaker 6 Let me say, I get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I get it.

Speaker 6 Everyone gets it. It's not fun.

Speaker 1 People who watch our streams get it.

Speaker 6 There is an unnamed executive at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who, when informed that I would be much more of a Bucs fan if it wasn't for Stephen Che,

Speaker 6 informed me that they're willing to part ways with Stephen Che as a Bucs fan. That would be great.
That means that they can open up the big tent to getting people on the band.

Speaker 1 Because I love Mike Evans. I love Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 I love Chris Godwin. I love Vita Vey.
I love Bucky.

Speaker 2 I love Bucky, Levante David.

Speaker 1 I love all these guys.

Speaker 1 They're a fun team, Che.

Speaker 6 Che's gatekeeping checks from all of us.

Speaker 1 Chey screws it for all of us. Okay.

Speaker 1 Titans at Bills.

Speaker 1 Amari Cooper, now on the Bills.

Speaker 1 He said that it's always funny because you forget, like, Cleveland and Buffalo are very close together. So he drove to Buffalo from Cleveland when traded, and he said he had a lot to think about.

Speaker 1 Said Josh Allen plays a lot of grit and hustle, called him one of the league's best top quarterbacks. To play with him

Speaker 1 is really cool. And he said that it felt like the first day of school again, driving from Cleveland to Buffalo.

Speaker 6 That's awesome. I'm excited.
First day of school. Wait, wait, first day of school, not.
No, first day of school is fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you get your new fit. Yeah, you got a little tan.

Speaker 6 You get to see all the people.

Speaker 6 Some of the summer. Yeah.
You go in there and you act all big and bad. Second day, syllabus week, not that fun.

Speaker 6 you know, before you get to college.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I love the internet for, I hate the internet for a lot of reasons. I love the internet internet for the random, hey, someone just thought of this game.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen has thrown a pass to a completion to Mario Cooper. Did you see that clip going around?

Speaker 1 It was in a week 11 game between the Bills and the Browns, and he threw one to the sideline, and Amari Cooper one-handed it. And the best part about the clip is the game was happening at Ford Field.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love that. Because of the stars.
Yeah, I remember that one. So it's the most random clip ever to be like, look, Josh Allen and Mari Cooper have a connection.

Speaker 6 I feel like this is where people are going to get sick of the Bills glazing, but I feel like this is a great move for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And this is also,

Speaker 1 I feel like this might be a smash spot for the Bills. The Titans,

Speaker 1 I can't keep believing in the Titans. I keep doing it, and I just, I got to quit them.
I'm quitting them. I'm going cold turkey on the Titans.

Speaker 6 I'm going to say, I'm going to call it right now. This is the weekend where Josh throws an interception.
Oh. But I think the Bills are going to win.

Speaker 1 Hunter start, too.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think it would be good for Josh to get that first one out of the way.

Speaker 1 I just, I'm done with the Titans.

Speaker 6 I'm done. It's probably smart.
Can't do it.

Speaker 1 Can't do it anymore. Done with the Titans.

Speaker 1 Bengals at Browns.

Speaker 6 This is going to be a fun game.

Speaker 1 Not really. No, yeah.
Okay, here's why it's going to be fun. Let me pitch you on Bengals and Browns.
Mario Cooper got traded. The vibes in Cleveland could not be worse

Speaker 1 except for the fact that Nick Chubb is back. And I've watched multiple videos now, I think three different videos of Nick Chubb, whether it be going out to the practice field for the first time.

Speaker 1 He did a press conference the other day. This team loves Nick Chubb as much as they hate Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Nick Chubb is the best.

Speaker 1 They are,

Speaker 1 it was basically he was standing at the podium getting ready to talk to the reporters and all the guys, they must have been walking in a hallway and they all were just screaming like, Chubb's back, 2-4, 2-4, and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 I think that you will maybe get a one-game bounce from Nick Chubb being in that huddle. And I might only run the ball 10 times, but just they needed something to change the vibes.

Speaker 1 Nick Chubb changes it for a game. I kind of like the Browns against the spread here.

Speaker 6 Nick Chubb is a very easy guy to root for.

Speaker 6 And I've been watching some of his mic'd ups where

Speaker 6 he's wearing the wire, and he steps out on the field, and then the video goes for like two minutes, and Nick Chubb still hasn't said anything. He's the best guy in the NFL to mic up.

Speaker 6 I hope they have him wearing the wire this time because it's just him breathing, grunting, and then that's it. That's all he does out there.

Speaker 1 He's going to be fun. It's going to be fun to have him back.
The Browns have not scored 20 points or had 200 yards passing in a a game. Maybe it changes this week.

Speaker 6 Well, here's what's wild about that.

Speaker 6 You said 20 points. The last two home games that the Browns have had against the Bengals, they've won by 19 or more points.

Speaker 1 Oh, so

Speaker 1 they do own the Bengals.

Speaker 6 They own the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kevin Svavansky also, Nick Chubb did a really good piece in the Players' Tribune.

Speaker 1 He was talking about his injury, his leg atrophying to a point where he said his leg was the size of his arm, which his arm is really big, too.

Speaker 6 Yeah, big leg.

Speaker 1 But Kevin Svavansky told reporters that Nick Chubb is a better journalist than all of you, better football player, too.

Speaker 6 Better journalists.

Speaker 1 He didn't have to have the football player.

Speaker 6 Well, technically, not a journalist. He's a blogger.
Yeah. Kevin.

Speaker 1 But I like the football player being added, just looking at a bunch of journalists being like, Nick Chubb's a better football player than you guys.

Speaker 6 Yeah, probably accurate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I still believe in the Bengals. They'll probably win this game.
I just think it's going to be tighter than we expect.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the Bengals, this is where the Bengals have, they're in must-win territory, especially against the team that they are on paper, on the field, everything better than.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so the Browns, I want to bet on the Browns this weekend. I know that's very stupid, but you gave me a reason with Nick Chubb coming back.

Speaker 6 They've been the worst vibes ever in the NFL this season. Deshaun Watson continues to set records for just all the stats.

Speaker 6 You can find any bad quarterback stat, and Deshaun Watson will be number one across the board in all of them. I feel like this is, it's all lining up.

Speaker 6 The Browns, Bengals, we know how that's gone recently. Nick Chubb coming back.
It's at home.

Speaker 6 I think I like the Browns. Yeah.
Will I be man enough to bet on the Browns this weekend? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to be, and it's going to be scary as all hell.

Speaker 1 Texans at Packers,

Speaker 1 I got something I got to say to the Packers, and this actually comes from a place of respect.

Speaker 1 So hear me out. The Packers going with the all-white uniforms and all-white helmets are a disgusting affront to football.
Color rush.

Speaker 1 It's a disgusting affront to football i the green bay packers hear me out the green bay packers and i hate them i hate them can you use the proper term for it though it's the winter warning the winter warning i hate the packers but

Speaker 1 they their football jerseys and color scheme are football like that's what you like that's classic football they are a franchise 100 years old they have all this history like they should never do any type of gimmicky alternate bullshit They have a uniform.

Speaker 1 It's like changing Alabama's uniform or Penn State's uniform. Like, don't do it.
The Packers have a uniform that works. Don't change the helmet.

Speaker 1 If you're a Packers fan, you should be disgusted by this.

Speaker 6 I think that this is...

Speaker 1 It's disgusting. End the whole franchise.
It's disgusting.

Speaker 6 I think that this is an appropriate uniform to wear in a late December game at Lambeau Field when it's snowing. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That would rock. Do you know what the temperature is going to be at Lambeau Field this year?

Speaker 1 24.

Speaker 6 Yes. You can't have the winter warning jerseys on when it's 74 degrees outside.

Speaker 2 This matchups, this uniform matchup stinks.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Max? You like it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the Packers jerseys are sitting there. No, they aren't.
The green. No, all right.
The jerseys are fine.

Speaker 1 The jerseys are fine.

Speaker 1 You can't do the white helmet.

Speaker 6 That's probably not going to happen in mid-October.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to turn this game off and we're going to look at

Speaker 1 this matchup. Yeah.
Like those.

Speaker 1 This is a sick uniform. I would never say that, first of all.
I actually would. I mean,

Speaker 1 their regular helmet is a great helmet. You should never change it.

Speaker 6 Max, you can't turn on it. It's impossible to turn on a Texans game and say this is a great all-time uniform matchup.
That's a fact.

Speaker 6 They don't have the history. Nothing against the Texans uniform.

Speaker 1 I think the Texans ones are going to look cool, too.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be a snob here, but throwback uniforms. We made a song about color rush.
Throwback uniforms.

Speaker 6 Color rushes for Thursday nights.

Speaker 1 Throwback uniforms are for the Jaguars. They're for the Titans.
They're for the Texans. Great.
Not even throwback. Alternate, weird, funky uniforms.
They're not for the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 I'm actually doing Packers fans a service because I'm speaking up for them. You should be disgusted by this.

Speaker 2 I'm going to take the Packers in this game.

Speaker 6 I don't like the fact that it's going to be so nice outside wearing these uniforms. Yeah.
I really don't. I think it's going to be very strange looking.

Speaker 6 I'm excited to watch this game, though. This is going to be maybe the funnest game of the weekend.

Speaker 1 This is a measuring stick game for both teams. For who? Both teams.

Speaker 6 See how they measure up against each other.

Speaker 11 Both teams.

Speaker 1 The Texans that only lost in the NFC North. The Packers.
Now that Jordan Love is healthy. He also won the MVP last year or last week, which hurt me very much so.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think this is, we're going to walk away. If one team can beat the other, like, soundly, like, oh, shit, watch out.
I think both teams are very good.

Speaker 6 I think they're both capable of beating each other soundly.

Speaker 1 Soundly. Yeah.
Soundly. I think the Texans have some defensive injuries they're working through.

Speaker 6 Well, they got

Speaker 1 the ward.

Speaker 6 This is kind of interesting.

Speaker 6 Mario Edwards Jr., he just got suspended four games for PEDs, and so he's out, but they're getting back to Nico Autry, who's coming back after serving six games of his own for PEDs.

Speaker 1 Is Brian Cushing still in that building?

Speaker 6 I don't know, but it's a great, great idea if you're the Texans. They might be onto something.

Speaker 6 The Texans might have this calendar, a giant calendar set up where they have their guys go on like a regiment of steroids in cycles.

Speaker 6 So it's like right when one guy gets popped, the other guy gets cleaned, comes back. Yep.
Then he starts using, he gets popped, the other guy comes back. Yes.
Pretty smart. That is smart.

Speaker 6 You keep him fresh. Keep him fresh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jimmy Ward is out.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I like the Packers. This game's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 I'm going to text our friend Aaron Nagler and ask him what he thinks about these Packers uniforms.

Speaker 6 I'm going over. I'm going over.

Speaker 6 Those are over uniforms. You know that by looking at it, right? Yeah.
Like, it might not be appealing on the eye to see those white uniforms in 70-degree weather. What, Max?

Speaker 1 It's so appealing on the eye. It's such a great uniform.

Speaker 6 In the snow, it would rock.

Speaker 1 I think, regardless.

Speaker 6 It'd be like camouflage.

Speaker 1 I think once you turn the game on, you'd be like, those uniforms are safe. Well, Color Rush is good.
You're not a historian of the game like we are.

Speaker 6 I think these are over-uniforms, though.

Speaker 1 You mean

Speaker 1 these over-uniforms sounds like good uniforms. No, but an

Speaker 6 over-uniforms and a great uniform matchup. Great uniform matchup could be the Steelers and the Raiders.
And that's not hitting the over.

Speaker 1 That's a pretty basic matchup.

Speaker 6 What, Steelers, Raiders? I mean, that's a classic uniform matchup.

Speaker 1 It's classic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, I think Aaron Nigler actually agrees. They're boring, he said.
Yeah, they are. That's the opposite of what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Well, they're boring, and they're also, you should never change a classic uniform. That's really what it comes down to.
But he didn't say that.

Speaker 1 He sent me a video that he did, so I'll have to. Okay.
All right, fine. Play the video.
I'm going to send it to you. Let's hear.
This is from the actual Packers.

Speaker 1 We'll get this settled once and for all.

Speaker 1 These are the guys that actually are, they live and breathe Packer football because this is a i'll tell you right now if you're if you're listening for x's and o's find a new show we're getting deep in uniforms that's what we do it's that's what we do it's also hard to tell when the texans are wearing alternate uniforms yeah are those black yeah you could never tell are those black or dark blue

Speaker 1 who who cares who knows

Speaker 6 i think i would like this uniform matchup if those were actually black That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Because I'd like any of the white and the yang.

Speaker 6 I don't think I like any of their uniforms. I'm actually coming around to the new ones.

Speaker 1 The H-Town Blues?

Speaker 6 Yeah. I'm coming around to those.

Speaker 1 H-Town Blues. I don't think the Texans have ever worn black.

Speaker 1 They're blue.

Speaker 6 If you look at that uniform right there, it might be black. I don't know.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go. This is from Aaron Agler, Cheese Head TV, and his co-host.

Speaker 1 Let's see what they say.

Speaker 1 Where the Green Bay Packers will be wearing their winter warning uniforms.

Speaker 1 What are there's a little bit of controversy around this? Like, they're not very good quality or something.

Speaker 6 All I know is like the merch line just isn't cool.

Speaker 1 That was my thing.

Speaker 16 You can talk about they should have done this with the helmets or they should have put it in prime time, which that I totally agree with because it would have popped.

Speaker 1 It would have looked so cool at night. But side

Speaker 9 side, because this whole thing is a money grab.

Speaker 1 It's all about creating more merch, right? Yeah, you need more SKUs. And they want to.
More skews equals more dollars. More SKUs.
We do that here, too. We did the Romeo.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 I get the gig. I understand it, man.
Like, totally get it.

Speaker 9 But then make the stuff cool.

Speaker 1 It is the plainest, boringest,

Speaker 1 to be honest, most nondescript nonsense.

Speaker 1 That's what a lot of people complain about the women's stuff, too. They have a lot of women's stuff, but it's not.

Speaker 1 That's not, it's a different argument. Yeah, but we got to the same point.
No, we got to the same point.

Speaker 6 I think he makes a good point, though, that if this was at night and you have those uniforms, it looks a lot better.

Speaker 1 It would not only look good. Not in the night, but I still think it'll look good during the day.

Speaker 6 Not in the bright, hot sun.

Speaker 1 We ended up at the same spot.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We did. We both hate the uniforms for different reasons.

Speaker 1 I think the Packers should just cease to exist after doing something like this to the gods of football.

Speaker 2 Vince Lombardy would be rolling in his grave right now.

Speaker 1 All 5'2 of them.

Speaker 6 Very short. Was he really 5'2?

Speaker 1 Yeah, people don't talk about it. He was very short, man.
That's crazy. I don't know if he's actually 5'2, but he's very short.
I'm going to look that up. Very short, man.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That was some good analysis.

Speaker 6 It is weird to wear winter

Speaker 6 uniforms when it's 72 degrees outside.

Speaker 1 5'8.

Speaker 1 There's no way he was 5'8. There's no way he was 5'8.

Speaker 6 Okay, yeah, basically a regular size human being. Especially in that era.

Speaker 1 No, he was 5'2,

Speaker 1 half of a man.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Anti-Italian discrimination.

Speaker 1 Dolphins,

Speaker 1 his base. Vince Lombardi's basement bar was like, that's one of those things that I wish still existed more in the world.
The basement bar. People don't have basement bars.

Speaker 6 Oh, he just had a bar in his basement? Yeah,

Speaker 6 I feel like a lot of dudes have that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's like all...

Speaker 1 Maybe it's the fact that it's now now like a man cave with like a million TVs. I'm talking like it was just like a, you just went there to lean up on the bar and drink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the modern nothing else.

Speaker 6 The modern man cave has become like,

Speaker 6 come see the room in my house that my wife lets me have. Right.
And I put stuff on the wall that I see advertised in commercials that explicitly use the term man cave.

Speaker 1 And it's also, it feels like the modern man cave is for Instagram and not for comfortability. You know what I mean? It's like, look at this.
I got turf field in the basement and all these jerseys.

Speaker 6 It's like, dude, what what about just a really fucking old nice couch that you can sit on and watch tv yeah my buddy bought a shed and then he just built a bar in his shed and he just goes out and gets hammered in the shed and turns a red light on for the neighbors to come over when the red lights on that means come drink beer in my shed it's that's that's man shit is your buddy named mike florio it's not mike flurio he does do that with his barn he's got a barn yeah he's got a barn uh okay dolphins occults I want to take the dolphins as long as Anthony Richardson is starting.

Speaker 6 Okay, let me tell you a reason why not to.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 He cut his hair. He cut all his hair off.

Speaker 1 Does that change the fact that

Speaker 1 he's literally the last in

Speaker 1 completion percentage from inside a clean pocket?

Speaker 6 It might. Nick Siriani shaved his head and then he won.

Speaker 1 Barely.

Speaker 6 Barely. That's true.

Speaker 1 And he also freaked out.

Speaker 6 He might freak out. Anthony Richardson might freak out this week.
It does feel like a step back. to not have Flacco starting.
Maybe that's just my excitement.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I also think Tyler Huntley off the bye.
The Dolphins ran the ball more last week. They were going to maybe lean into that, being like, hey, we can't run the Tua offense.

Speaker 1 Is Tua coming back?

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 6 I believe he's planning on it.

Speaker 6 He's not allowed to come back till October 23rd.

Speaker 1 Do the Dolphins have any prime time games?

Speaker 1 That might be, like, they might have to do the warning when you're scrolling Instagram. It's like, do you want to see this graphic nature?

Speaker 6 Information that may be harmful to your mental psyche right now. I think they can flex, too.
We're in flex territory.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 But yeah, Tua is not allowed to come back until the 23rd. That's to practice.
That's not a game.

Speaker 1 That's to practice. It's not a game.

Speaker 1 Memes.

Speaker 10 It looks like they have two primetime games.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 10 One coming up against the Rams on November 11th.

Speaker 6 Oh, no. So that could be Tua.

Speaker 1 And that's a primetime game.

Speaker 10 And they also play primetime, it looks like, against the Packers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just am not a believer in Anthony Richardson. I get it.
People do believe in him, but if Joe Flacco was starting this game, I'd hammer the Colts.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I'm going to bet the Colts regardless of who's starting, I think. That's how little I believe in whoever the backup happens to be that's trying to fill Tua's role in this offense.

Speaker 6 So I feel like they just don't know. Like, Tua, like him, who knows if Tua would be a good quarterback for any other team, but he works for the Dolphins.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 He's like perfect for them, and nobody else can come in and do any of the stuff that he's done. They just look completely lost.

Speaker 1 But I think they're going to try to maybe do

Speaker 2 not the same stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, they're going to try to run the ball more, be like, hey, Tyler Huntley, you're not too.

Speaker 6 You would think so, right?

Speaker 1 You would think so.

Speaker 6 That's what I was thinking last week with Tyler Huntley. I was like, well, they did.

Speaker 1 They ran it 41 times.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they also looked like shit, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 They did.

Speaker 6 What are we going to do about these tickets?

Speaker 6 We got Colts tickets this weekend to give away. Dolphins.

Speaker 6 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Why don't we give it to a Colts fan named Frank?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 So, Frank, any Frank Colts fan named Frank? Francis?

Speaker 1 No, Frank. Got to be in Frank.
I mean, they could legally be Francis, but they go by Frank.

Speaker 6 They go by Frank.

Speaker 1 They got to be going by Frank. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And you have to wear glasses.

Speaker 1 Yep. And chew on them.
Yep. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 6 If your name's Frank and you're a Colts fan, send us a picture of you chewing on your glasses. And then their tickets are yours.
Tag part of my.

Speaker 6 What should we do? Part of my take or part of my meme?

Speaker 1 Part of my take. Part of my meme.
Part of my meme.

Speaker 6 Part of my meme. And part of my take.
Tag part of my meme.

Speaker 1 But it has to be tagged to pardon my meme. And also, memes got Xbox codes for

Speaker 1 some new games.

Speaker 2 Call of Duty. Yeah, Call of Duty.

Speaker 6 So hit him up. And next year's college football game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hit him up.

Speaker 1 Tweet him.

Speaker 7 Tweet him asking for a call.

Speaker 6 Pardon my meme, hashtag memes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And say, memes, can I please have a

Speaker 1 code for PlayStation or Xbox? Yeah, we have them all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you have them all? I have them all. Yeah, yeah, you have them all.
Slide into his DMs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pull up.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 the game of.

Speaker 1 So the Texans Packers, probably the second best game in the early slate. Lions, Vikings.
I'm most excited for that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's going to be so fun. So, so fun.
I actually, I still believe in the Lions. Aiden Hutchinson, not good.
I understand that. If you're a Lions fan, probably pretty upset.

Speaker 6 And you're like, what does this mean for a season? I still think that the Lions, they can make it happen because their offense is good enough. They'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 I'm a believer in the Lions long term. I don't know about this game because

Speaker 1 I really do think that that Cowboys game, they were like, they had that circled. You could tell they had it circled.
It was an emotional game.

Speaker 1 Jared Goff got a game ball from Dan Campbell. Then he gave it back to Dan Campbell.

Speaker 6 Well, it's because I don't think Jared got the game ball.

Speaker 6 Last week, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, or something like that.

Speaker 6 Dan Campbell forgot, and he felt bad. He's like, I got to get Jared a game ball now.

Speaker 1 And then Jared gave it back to him.

Speaker 6 Which I love. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it was like, you could see the locker room.

Speaker 2 That was an emotional win.

Speaker 1 Losing Aiden Hutchins is an emotional letdown. Vikings off a bye.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just also, I have another stat for you from Sports Info Solutions.
Vikings are third best in the NFL, defending runs out of the 12 personnel, allowing 3.1 yards a carry.

Speaker 1 That's what the Lions like to do the most in the NFL. Okay.
So

Speaker 1 it's just, I just like the spot for the Vikings. Also, here's a stat for you.
Ready for this? Justin Jefferson has 1,037 receiving yards in eight career games against the Lions.

Speaker 1 That's the most by anyone in NFL history against one team in eight games.

Speaker 6 That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of yards. It is, yeah.

Speaker 6 That's a lot of yards. The receivers are,

Speaker 6 you can't cover everybody on the Vikings. You just can't.
And so if you have good Sam Darnold, then you're going to give up some points. What do you think about the Lions? Maybe not Max Crosby.

Speaker 6 What about Hasan Reddick?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they called about him. They did, yeah.

Speaker 1 Didn't we talk about this, but then they have to give him a second-round pick?

Speaker 6 Oh, because of the NFC?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good point.
That's why they're probably not going to trade him.

Speaker 6 I think if there's any team in the NFL that's able to get over an emotional loss to the leader of your defense, it's probably Detroit Lions. I feel like Dan Campbell is the right guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know when I, because we do so many shows. Oh, I think it was on the rundown.
I threw out this idea, and Jerry Jones will never do it, but trade Micah Parsons.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he's not going to do that.

Speaker 1 But you have to pay him, and your problem right now is, it seems like you have lack of depth going forward. What's going to happen? Yeah, you locked up Dak.
You locked up CD.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to pay Michael Parsons. You could probably get a lot for him.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if the Lions would do it, but If I were Jerry Jones, like reload on draft picks and trade Micah Parsons.

Speaker 6 That would be such an emasculating birthday to have the Lions come in, kick your ass to the point where you're like, we don't deserve to have this beautiful man on our defense.

Speaker 6 We need to trade him to the team that just kicked, he'd be happier with them.

Speaker 1 Just throwing it out there, not saying there's no sourcing, nothing. I was just thinking about it.
Like, again, this is under the assumption that Jerry Jones would operate.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have a lot of years left, so he's probably not going to operate in a long-term approach because that would be a smart, long-term move to trade Micah Parsons and get a haul for him right now before you have to pay him and then reload that that way.

Speaker 6 But knowing just a little bit about human psyche, the fact that you just gave Dak a big contract, the fact you just paid CeeDee Lamb, it's going to be a tough hill to climb to admit that you're not all in right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That you're all in.
They're not all in. They're all in my ass.

Speaker 15 All in my ass.

Speaker 10 All in my ass.

Speaker 1 I also

Speaker 1 want to watch if Aaron Jones plays. That's going to be important.

Speaker 6 So they just signed, or did they trade for Atlanta? Traded for Pam Akers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whose last game was in Minnesota? Yeah. He played for the,

Speaker 1 I think he was inactive last week, and then the Texans played in Minnesota, so that's kind of a fun wrinkle.

Speaker 6 So Aaron Jones was at practice. I don't know if he practiced, but he was at practice.
Okay. So take for that what you will.

Speaker 6 But I feel like picking up Cam Akers makes it seem like he's going to be out for a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Aaron Jones is very good. Yes.
And you probably don't want Sam Donald to run a 45 times a game. Yeah.
Aaron Jones returned to practice on Thursday.

Speaker 6 He was at practice. He was at practice.
Did he practice or was he just there? Limited?

Speaker 1 Vikings running back Aaron Jones returned to practice, according to Pioneer Press. Did he have an MRI?

Speaker 1 Did fill me up. Maybe DM someone.
Seeing him back on the field after not participating on Wednesday is a good sign. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 6 That is a good sign. That's a great sign.
But let the record show I am unwavering in my support from the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 6 I am as well. I think they'll be okay.
I mean, it sucks.

Speaker 1 I'm doing that right now because...

Speaker 1 The Bears don't have any NFC North games until week 10. Then it's going to have to...
I'm going to have to flip the switch. You're going to have to waver.
I'm going to have to flip the switch.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to flip the switch and start poking holes at everyone to try to make myself feel better. That's kind of what sports are.

Speaker 1 You've got to bring everyone else down to try to elevate yourself.

Speaker 6 I got a question for you, Big Cat. Is this the coordinator matchup of the week?

Speaker 1 Flores versus Ben Johnson? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I feel like it is. It is.
I feel like this is the coordinator matchup of the week.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Let's see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it might be the coordinator matchup of the week. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think without a doubt, this might be the best coordinator matchup in the NFL all season.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be a great great coordinator matchup.

Speaker 6 This is great. This is good stuff.

Speaker 1 It's our coordinator game of the week.

Speaker 6 The problem I have with what Ben Johnson did last week or at the Cowboys is just I don't know what else he's got in his bag.

Speaker 1 Well, that was my whole point about the emotion. Like it was, that was an empty the clip game.

Speaker 1 And what happens after you empty the clip? You go to shoot. Nothing's there.
Click-click. Yeah.

Speaker 6 The fact that you ran the play with Panay Sewell catching the lateral tells me that you're probably not...

Speaker 1 That has to be your most creative play that you have, right oh i'm sure he's got more so that's maybe he does but i'm a little probably like panay sole lateral to frank rag now i'm a little bit worried that he emptied the clip yeah how many shots were there do you feel lucky a lot of shots uh okay eagles of giants saquon revenge game saquan had a story uh

Speaker 1 on espn i believe where he's like i don't think they'll boo

Speaker 1 I had to read it like three times. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That is a big question.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to boo.

Speaker 6 Well, if you're a Giants fan, you probably you lived and breathed this entire saga with Saquon, and you know that he wanted to be a Giant, and then you know that the front

Speaker 6 offers decided to franchise Saquon, give a contract to Danny Jones, and then eventually, like, yeah, the guy just went to a team that bait him more money. Yeah.
A lot more money.

Speaker 1 I just thought, I thought that was...

Speaker 1 I feel like that's wishful thinking, being like, I don't think they're going to boo.

Speaker 6 I think there will be some fans that boo.

Speaker 1 I think there will be a smattering of booze.

Speaker 6 I think it's going to be 30% booze and then 70% people standing silently next to the people that are booing saying, hey, man, he was a great player for us.

Speaker 1 But you got to remember, there's so if the game's in New York, there's still probably going to be like 30%

Speaker 1 Philly fans there.

Speaker 6 Make the drive up.

Speaker 1 They also could boo.

Speaker 6 That's, but they wouldn't be booing Saquon.

Speaker 1 They might be booing.

Speaker 1 They might be booing Saquon. But you might have to up your boo.

Speaker 6 Good sports talent. 50-50 boo?

Speaker 1 No, Saquon wouldn't get booed. But he might.
No, there's no way that Saquon gets.

Speaker 1 But, Max, it's also like, think about it.

Speaker 1 If you're an Eagles fan and you're going to this game at MetLife and you hear booze, your natural reaction is going to just start joining in on the booze.

Speaker 1 Nah, Saquon wouldn't get booed. Saquon's, everyone likes Saquon in Philly.

Speaker 1 There's levels to it. There's like pre-boo.

Speaker 1 There's no boo.

Speaker 6 No boo. Great sushi paper.

Speaker 1 No boo, yeah. Pre-boo.
And then current boo.

Speaker 6 Now boo.

Speaker 1 So wait, wait, wait. Break that down? No boo.
There's pre-boo, which pre-boo.

Speaker 2 There's no boo.

Speaker 6 That's sometimes more potent than booing.

Speaker 1 No boo is no boo. Bougie.
There's no boo.

Speaker 1 No boo. Yeah.
Bougie. Like, this guy is not going to get booed.

Speaker 1 He's in no danger of getting boo. Then there's pre-boo.

Speaker 8 No booze, for instance.

Speaker 1 All right, so he's like, we're feeling about boo boo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then there's like, there's like,

Speaker 1 this guy's on the verge of possibly getting boo boo. It's like a dog with a bark in their throat.

Speaker 2 You can see them about to bark.

Speaker 1 You're like, that's a fat Philly guy who's got a boo in his throat. Great bow bun.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So when you, the first guy that booze, is there ever a guy that boos too soon?

Speaker 1 No, it's like a collective thing.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 6 all it takes is one guy to start and then everybody else has to join in.

Speaker 1 Would you not agree, Max, that if you

Speaker 1 if someone just started booing around you, your instinct would be, let me join in on this boo.

Speaker 8 Was this first take?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 We got to test this. We're going to forget.
Let's just... I'm going to set a secret reminder and we're going to try to test this out later on at some point.

Speaker 1 Just start booing around Max and watch him just instinctively be like, where are we booing? Let's boo. No, no, no.

Speaker 6 I don't think that the majority of Giants fans are going to boo Saquon, but I do think that if he fumbles, everyone's going to cheer extra loud for that fumble.

Speaker 1 Which counts as a boo.

Speaker 6 Kind of a boo.

Speaker 1 It's a sarcastic cheer. No, we Saquon no boo.

Speaker 10 Just no boo.

Speaker 1 What's a Drake line? Drake line, no boo. Something Malibu, no boo.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about this this game? Oh, bad.

Speaker 1 We lose in New York every time now, and

Speaker 1 New York just keeps dunking on me that I just keep thinking I'm going to get dunked on by New York. And this would be,

Speaker 1 this would really be, really be a doozy of a loss. You'd be rubbing it in, yeah.

Speaker 6 No Boston Scott anymore.

Speaker 1 No Boston Scott. I got signed.

Speaker 6 He's playing in Rocket League right now.

Speaker 1 The Giants.

Speaker 6 He's like a professional gamer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the Giants stink, but they're not.

Speaker 1 They're They're a little bit frisky. Their defense is good.
Yeah, there's parts of them that are frisky.

Speaker 6 Leak neighbors coming back.

Speaker 1 But they still have the label of stink.

Speaker 1 So like losing to them still will feel like embarrassing, like losing to a horrible football team. Even though it shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 But you agree with.

Speaker 6 I know what you're saying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's a stink around the Giants. Correct.
That losing to the Giants feels like a stink.

Speaker 6 And I'm sure the same with the Commanders. If you were to lose to us, that stink is.

Speaker 2 We're not talking about the Commanders right now.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 on top of that there's like a stink and then also if you lose the saquon revenge no boo game right uh that would hurt as well and the way the giants can win this game would hurt extra extra hard because all they do is like little passes and they would just little little passes it would be so boring and they would just yeah they'd little pass you it would be so boring and because it would also i also think the only way we lose is if eh i don't know there's plenty of ways we could lose but like i'm thinking of like a like a bad turnover or something dumb like that that

Speaker 1 would really get the Nick Siriani strips his clothes at halftime and then comes out naked and you get a penalty? I'll say this right now.

Speaker 1 If the Eagles lose to the Giants on Sunday, Nick Siriani will not be coaching the following week. Oh,

Speaker 6 I feel like. Is he coaching now?

Speaker 1 He's coaching for his job. Will he just

Speaker 1 be taking a week off or he's going to be fired? He'll be done.

Speaker 6 He just goes MIA?

Speaker 1 Like he's just going to leave? No,

Speaker 1 I think he will be fired. This is a prediction.

Speaker 6 This is a prediction. Do they let him back on the bus to go back to Philly?

Speaker 1 Respect. Philly's a city of respect.
We would, of course, let him get back on the bus.

Speaker 6 But would there be a group of fans waiting to boo him at the facility?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then I'll probably start yelling at him. Like, the yelling at the fans last year, last week, really, like, it felt like if they lost,

Speaker 1 he wouldn't have yelled at the fans if they lost that game, but it, like... Really bumped up his hot spots.

Speaker 6 I saw a report.

Speaker 6 I don't know if it was from the actual fan. It was a guy claiming to be the fan.

Speaker 1 You saw that?

Speaker 6 So, yeah, so the guy, I saw it was like a post on Instagram or something. But he said that he was telling Nick Siriani, like, what, run the ball more? Like, run the ball to Saquon.

Speaker 6 And then Nick Siriani did run the ball more. And then after the game, he was like, see, I told you I was going to run the ball more.

Speaker 6 So it might not have been, like, booing, then Nick Siriani responding to the boo. It might have been good coaching.
You should hire that guy to be your coach.

Speaker 1 Regardless, you shouldn't be like yelling at the fan about any. No.
Because a fan told you to run the ball, you're going you like kept that in your head and you had to go back to the stand.

Speaker 6 That's what fans do.

Speaker 1 That's fans.

Speaker 1 That's not what head coaches do.

Speaker 6 But that's fan 101. It's like he's definitely heard probably a million fans before saying run the damn ball.

Speaker 1 But Siriani shouldn't do that. I have a question for you, Max.

Speaker 1 If you lose this game and then you fire Sirianni, what is it going to look like? Is it going to look like Tommy and Goodfellows when they shoot him in the back of the head?

Speaker 1 Or is it going to look like Goodfellows when they do the wire? He sits in the front seat. Like Big Dom, how's Big Dom going to whack him?

Speaker 1 Big Dom would only treat any man with the most respect. So face to face.
Yep.

Speaker 6 Two in the face. Let him take his shoes off first.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Big Dom is a man of respect for sure.

Speaker 6 Would Nick Siriani wind up frozen in a meat truck?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Okay.
Would Nick Siriani be yeah, would he be like beat up in a bar?

Speaker 1 and then buried upstate.

Speaker 1 What would you think about the Eagles season going forward if we lost Sirianni and somehow

Speaker 1 got Vrabel in the door? I think that would be crazy.

Speaker 6 That would rock. I think that would be awesome for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Mike Vrabel should be a coach.

Speaker 1 I know I feel like Mike Vrabel is like a headache.

Speaker 6 It's ridiculous that Mike Vrabel is not a head coach in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Would the Browns let him out of his contract?

Speaker 1 Isn't he just like an advisor?

Speaker 1 No, I think he's.

Speaker 6 No, he's an advisor, a consultant.

Speaker 1 But he was not

Speaker 14 there.

Speaker 8 I don't think he has like an ironclad contract.

Speaker 1 Yes, right, yes.

Speaker 6 I'm sure they would let him out if he even had a con. He probably doesn't even have like a non-compete clause in there.

Speaker 1 Especially, it's not like they're playing for anything right now.

Speaker 6 Well, they got Nick Chubb back.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You forgot about that part.
But they're punting. Andrew Thomas being out for the Giants should make you feel a little bit more

Speaker 6 excited about this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 I guess our D-line looks better last week. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And neighbors come. They might not little pass you to death.
They might find neighbors a few times too.

Speaker 1 They'll still little pass him to death. They just might do some medium passes to I think neighbors is back.
Well, he's back, but he has a new injury.

Speaker 2 From what? He got a concussion.

Speaker 1 Obviously, he's back from that, but then I think he has a groin.

Speaker 6 So do I.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we all do.

Speaker 6 I'm not here. Pulled groin.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Sounds like a Friday night.

Speaker 1 That's rude. He's a full go.
Damn it. He's a full go.
His groin is 100%.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 1 his groin is groining.

Speaker 10 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 So did you. I do like the Malik Neighbors.
uh

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 it's been going around like he doesn't wear any team issue things when he's been out on the sideline and people are very upset about it it's kind of funny what do they want him to wear i it does look a little weird he's just you see the picture he's rocking echo unlimited on the sideline he looks like he's going to a concert and he's just on the sideline well wasn't hearing like chrome hearts pull up pull up a picture of him on the sideline he did go to a there it is look at that that's not that is a ridiculous

Speaker 6 thing to wear while being on the sideline okay but counterpoint chromed out counterpoint the Giants need somebody like this because they do.

Speaker 6 Max's whole stink around the Giants has to do with them just being a boring team offensively.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Malik Nabers is not boring.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 This is the guy that you need. This is a culture change.

Speaker 1 He counteracts Daniel Jones being a Deloitte accountant.

Speaker 6 I would also like to say for the record, in addition to Mike Vrabel, definitely should be a head coach right now in the NFL somewhere.

Speaker 6 The Giants, if their season doesn't go well, they kind of have to make a decision about what to do for their entire future. Yeah.
Like with the whole Dable, Daniel Jones thing.

Speaker 6 You got to keep Dable.

Speaker 6 I think that Dable is a good head coach. I don't think that they should fire him after this season.
I think, because you have to make the choice, right?

Speaker 6 Do you clean house, maybe get a new quarterback and a new head coach at the same time? Or do you keep the same guy around and give him at least a couple years to work with your new quarterback?

Speaker 6 I actually like Brian Dable enough to say that he should be their head coach.

Speaker 1 I think you just do a simple estimation of if you fire Brian Dable, will he be hired tomorrow? And I think he probably would.

Speaker 6 As a head coach or as a coordinator?

Speaker 1 A head coach or a coordinator, but it would be pretty quick.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you don't want to fire a guy like that. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And the Maras, they don't like to fire guys, except like the last, what, 10 years, they fired.

Speaker 1 They've been McAdoo, yeah.

Speaker 6 They fired, they fired a lot of guys, but historically, they don't like to fire guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Brian Dable, like the one season that the Giants go to the playoffs, Daniel Jones,

Speaker 1 that should be like

Speaker 1 front and center, I can coach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I did that. Yeah.
You beat beat the Vikings. Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up, Raiders at Rams.

Speaker 1 I hate this game.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's a bad game. Jimmy G revenge game.

Speaker 2 Is Jimmy G playing? No.

Speaker 1 Oh, Aiden O'Connell. That guy stinks.

Speaker 1 I think the Rams off the bye?

Speaker 6 Yeah, definitely the Rams off the bye.

Speaker 2 They're healthy, right?

Speaker 1 Cooper Cup, I think, is trying to come back.

Speaker 6 And then the other big story that we talk about with Kyle Rudolph a little bit is Tom Brady has been

Speaker 1 awarded custody of 10% of the Raiders I believe 5% oh I thought he got 10% and then I thought he bought Mark Davis sold 10% I think it's or 10.5% okay 5% to Brady 5% to Brady's

Speaker 6 business partner and then 0.5% to Richard Seymour got it so Tom Brady is now according to the NFL not permitted to be in another team's facility he's not permitted to witness practices he's not permitted to attend broadcast production meetings either in person or virtually he's prohibited from publicly criticizing game officials and other clubs.

Speaker 6 He's subject to the NFL's gambling policy and anti-tampering policy too. So he can't criticize the refs.

Speaker 1 Oh, you forgot one thing. He also can't play.

Speaker 6 He can't play.

Speaker 1 Owners cannot play, which is a bullshit rule.

Speaker 6 That is stupid. Mark Davis going out there and holding the ball in kickoff would rock.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones would definitely try to play. Yeah.
Yeah, so Tom Brady is now

Speaker 1 a partial owner of an NFL team. I mean, he's going to eventually own the Raiders, right?

Speaker 6 I don't know how this works. Is there like some sort of succession power play he can pull behind Mark Davis' back?

Speaker 1 Well, isn't the whole story that Mark Davis' mom actually owns the Raiders and that eventually he won't have enough, like when she passes.

Speaker 6 When she dies, the inheritance tax is going to be more than he has in cash. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So his wealth comes from owning the team, and then I guess you take out lines of credit against the asset that you own. Sure.
Yeah, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 6 So yeah, maybe it is he set himself up for the future. Also, do you think there's any truth to the Belichick rumors?

Speaker 1 Kirk threw those out there. They got picked up everywhere.
It would be an all-time story.

Speaker 8 I don't.

Speaker 1 It would be an all-time story.

Speaker 8 I just don't think there's a whole lot of truth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I couldn't tell if Kirk was screwing with everyone or not. I think that's what Kirk does.
Yeah, right, which is hilarious because it literally got picked up everywhere. So it was a massive rule.

Speaker 8 He was also in sports, Boston sports radio. He knows how these things go.
He knows how to say things semantically where he can just say, that's what I heard, without, you know, reporting it as fact.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think, I feel like Belichick.

Speaker 8 He can say, I heard anything.

Speaker 6 Belichick might not go back to the NFL. He might not go back to coaching at all.

Speaker 1 He's definitely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he's got the record.

Speaker 1 He's trying to go for the record.

Speaker 6 I feel like he's having a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 Oh, definitely not. He's got to go for the record.

Speaker 6 He's like a guy that worked in a factory his entire life and came from like a hard-scrabbled town in the Midwest, Rust Belt.

Speaker 6 He works, finally retires, always thought about retiring in that same town he grew up in, then goes to Florida one week, and he's like, this is really nice stuff.

Speaker 6 I might just stay.

Speaker 1 By the way, the other owner is Tom Wagner, co-founder of Nighthead Capital Management.

Speaker 6 Nighthead, that sounds like the most evil company.

Speaker 1 That guy sounds like he will just.

Speaker 15 He's a great company.

Speaker 1 He'll cut your fucking necktie and then shit down your throat.

Speaker 6 The Wagner Group, is that what it's called?

Speaker 1 Tom Wagner,

Speaker 2 the co-founder of Nighthead Capital Management.

Speaker 6 Nighthead.

Speaker 6 That's either the most evil name or the horniest name I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's the other, that's the 5% to each of them, and then a half percent to Richard Seymour.

Speaker 6 See, if Tom Brady says that's a bad call during a game, is that criticizing the officials?

Speaker 8 He's in a bad spot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel bad. I don't know why he's doing it.
Yeah. Well, I know why he's buying the Raiders.
I don't know why he's still doing the broadcasting. Because they're paying him $40 million a year.

Speaker 1 I guess you got to pay what. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't know why he got into broadcast. Yeah, that $40 million a year, that whole thing.
But I don't really understand why Tom wanted to. He's Tom Brady, Brady, isn't it?

Speaker 6 Again, it goes back to the thought of like Tom Brady should be too good to be talking to me on my couch about games that are happening.

Speaker 6 That's beneath Tom Brady. What do you say, Max?

Speaker 1 I also looked up the Kirk stuff of if it was real. He followed that up today with saying that Kamala will be the next head coach of the Miami.
Are you saying that's not real?

Speaker 1 No, that could happen. Yeah, if we look at Kamala, things are real.
That's very funny. Yeah, that could definitely happen.

Speaker 1 Kamala being there. He was like, I only have one source, but I'll say it anyway.
Kamala doing her pregame speech, just being like, so I was born in a middle-class family.

Speaker 1 All right, boys, let's go out there. Let's be clear about one thing.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 1 I have a plan.

Speaker 6 Go to my website and see my game plan.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, it actually did kind of happen with Adam Schefter reporting Condoleezza Rice.

Speaker 6 True.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next game.
Panthers and Commanders. PFT, you're in trouble.
I agree. Oh, why do you think I was going going to say you're in trouble?

Speaker 6 I'm saying I'm in trouble because I ran my mouth hot and loose last weekend and just said I counted this as a bye week, and I regret doing that.

Speaker 1 I was going to say you're in trouble for a different reason because Dave Canalis said that Bryce Young did a great job in the role of rookie QB Jaden Daniels on the scout team today and making the Washington offense concepts come to life.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. That's so sad to be like, yeah, Bryce Young, good job, dude.

Speaker 1 Pretending to be Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 6 That is very, very sad.

Speaker 1 It's brutal.

Speaker 6 Not only are you getting buried because people talk about you in comparison to the number one overall pick, or excuse me, the number two overall pick in your draft, now you're running scout team for the number two overall pick in the next draft.

Speaker 1 Like, just don't say it. No, he was one overall.
No, I know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm saying that

Speaker 6 he gets buried because of CJ Stroud. Yes.
Now he's doing scout team for the next number two pick.

Speaker 1 Just don't say it.

Speaker 1 Don't say that, Dave Canalis. Just be like, we had a good week of practice.

Speaker 6 Do you remember RG3 at one point when he got demoted to scout team, but he wasn't playing quarterback scout team? He got demoted to being the scout team safety. Yeah.
That was pretty sad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was sad.

Speaker 1 I think you're going to have a really fun time playing the Panthers.

Speaker 6 I'm just worried because I shouldn't have said that about the Panthers. I feel bad for Panthers fans.

Speaker 6 I don't want to bully Panthers fans.

Speaker 1 Okay, now speak honestly. Like you've been speaking honestly.

Speaker 6 I've been trying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so now speak honestly.

Speaker 6 From what I've seen from the Commanders, this is a game that we should win by 20 points. Oh, wow.
We should. I like that.

Speaker 6 I hope we win. Our defense isn't good.
Well, we actually stink on defense. We're one of the worst defenses.

Speaker 1 How many touchdown passes for Jaden Daniels?

Speaker 6 I think, I don't know about total touchdowns, passing and running. I'm going to say

Speaker 1 three.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 6 And then he's going to have two handoff touchdowns. Okay.

Speaker 1 Those count too? Yep. They do.
Okay.

Speaker 10 Yeah, this is going to be a fun game for you.

Speaker 6 I hope so.

Speaker 6 This is a game. This is a take care of business game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just take care of business.
Beating the bad team still counts. Yep.
It still counts.

Speaker 6 I'm also just still amazed that we have a home field advantage.

Speaker 6 It's been a decade since we've had a true home field advantage. So it's very cool seeing Commanders fans.
Also, fuck you to that Ravens fan that beat up the two Commanders fans after the game. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He got arrested.

Speaker 2 Yes. Well, no, there's a Warren out for him.

Speaker 1 There's a Warren out.

Speaker 6 Yeah. They'll find him.
Maybe Multi will track him down.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely. Okay.
Another great game. This is a great Sunday sleeve.
Chiefs at 49ers.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid off a bye, 21-4. Patrick Mahomes, straight up as an underdog, is 10-3.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are one and a half-point underdogs. They are off a bye.
Also, Kyle Shanahan forced the team to watch the Super Bowl this week and said,

Speaker 1 I think everyone understands that we've lost two Super Bowls to them. So, I mean, that can give you a little post-traumatic stress when you turn on the tape.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I like that. I think I'm going to take the 49ers, but I don't like that.

Speaker 6 I don't like the move of playing the game for the guys. Yeah.
Like, that puts bad thoughts in your head. Really bad.
In what world does that improve morale?

Speaker 6 Zero. I guess you could just hope that it's going to piss them off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it was, they were so close to be like, hey, look how close we were.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so in terms of Super Bowl matchups, like rematches, the Chiefs lost to the Eagles last year.

Speaker 6 But before that, the last time the Super Bowl loser won the following regular season matchup was 1993. Oh, wow.
So it goes back a long ways.

Speaker 1 That was the Chiefs Eagles last year.

Speaker 2 That was the beginning of the end for Nick Siriani.

Speaker 1 Going, remember, going up the tunnel? Yeah. Screaming at everyone? Yep.
But he won that game. No, I know, but that was the beginning of the end.
That was his Super Bowl. That was his Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I think that was the end of the beginning. Ooh.

Speaker 9 Oh, interesting.

Speaker 6 Okay. So now we're in the middle.

Speaker 1 Or are we at the end? Now we're at the end. Actually, you know what? No, that was the beginning of the end.

Speaker 1 If you point to one point where you're like, Nick's your honey, he's kind of, he's really like, this is kind of turning.

Speaker 1 But that was, that was like, but it was, but remember how obnoxious it was, and everyone's like, what's his problem?

Speaker 1 But Eagles fans were like, whatever, that's our guy at that point.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but Max, I feel like the Super Bowl was the end of the beginning. Wrong.
That was

Speaker 1 10-1. Okay.
That was the beginning of the end without you realizing it was the beginning of the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 6 You just didn't go out for interviews.

Speaker 1 You didn't know that there was the beginning of the end, but if you look back, you're like, that was the beginning of the end.

Speaker 1 He beat the Chiefs and was like, I'm done. Job done.
Yeah. And stop coaching.
Hank's confused. Yeah, I was so happy.

Speaker 1 What did he say in this?

Speaker 6 What are you confused by? What's up, Hank?

Speaker 14 I think the walls are hacked.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 8 Someone tweeted at me two minutes ago and said, do you happen to know when the Pats are flying to London this week?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you think someone listens to us. We are talking?

Speaker 6 That's a pretty standard question. Yeah.

Speaker 8 To ask me?

Speaker 1 Well, you should have known the answer to that.

Speaker 6 If my team was playing in London, that's the.

Speaker 2 I would have that.

Speaker 1 I knew the Bears were flying on Monday night. Memes also already tweeted it.
What? I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 What's the answer?

Speaker 14 I can't find a definitive answer.

Speaker 1 Where are you going to find an answer?

Speaker 8 If they practice in Gillette today, they're in Gillette. I'm assuming tomorrow.
Oh, so they're flying.

Speaker 1 No, they're flying tonight. Okay.
They're flying tonight if they practice in Gillette today.

Speaker 6 That'd be funny if they flew over early in the week, just like went on a sightseeing tour, then flew back, practiced, and then flew back again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, just got a little lay of the land.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we have our answer. They're flying Thursday night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're flying tonight.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 where were we?

Speaker 6 Beginning of the end. Chiefs, Niners.

Speaker 1 I want to read a tweet for you, see if you can decipher it for me. Ready?

Speaker 1 This is from Charles Amenahu.

Speaker 1 Plays for the Chiefs. He's coming back

Speaker 1 shortly. I think he tours ACL, so he's going to be back shortly.
And he is kind of pumping himself up.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm coming back to get what I deserve. The biggest shit, anything else ain't for me.
Done speaking till I'm back. Been too humble.

Speaker 1 Folks forgot what the fuck I did with less games than your favorite player. Okay.
Let me read that first sentence again. I'm coming back to get what I deserve.

Speaker 1 The biggest shit, anything else ain't for me.

Speaker 6 It sounds like Napoleon. It's a riddle.
Yeah, no, it sounds like exactly what Napoleon said after he got exiled. Yeah.
So what is the biggest shit?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Ain't for me.

Speaker 6 Ain't for me. And your favorite player.
What was that?

Speaker 1 It been too humble. Folks forgot what the fuck I did with less games than your favorite player.

Speaker 6 How does he know who my favorite player is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what if your favorite player is TJ Watt? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sherry should reply be like, I don't think so, dude.

Speaker 6 Favorite player is Andy Dalton.

Speaker 6 Then he probably did. He probably did.
That's the point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like the Niners here. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Do we have an update on Christian McCaffrey speaking of the walls? No. Got it.

Speaker 6 And Jordan Mason, is he playing?

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 8 Hank, you should. He practiced.

Speaker 1 Next week, I think he's playing. Next week, you should just.

Speaker 15 Am I like the injury guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I'm saying next week you should print out every injury report and just be the injury guy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're pro-football.

Speaker 1 That would be actually very funny if we just had you had them all just printed in your hand. Hank Dockwood.

Speaker 8 Jordan Mason was in a blue no-contact jersey today.

Speaker 6 Wait, what's he? A blue no-contact jersey. Are there levels to the no-contact jerseys?

Speaker 1 I think the red is for the quarterbacks only.

Speaker 6 Or maybe the blue is just, it's the injury tent. He was in the injury tent.

Speaker 2 They just called it wearing the injury tent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, last game on Sunday, Jets at Steelers.

Speaker 8 How's there no flexes this week?

Speaker 6 Jets Steelers is a. That's a pretty interesting thing.
Russie, dude. You got Russie.
You got everything going on in New York.

Speaker 1 Vikings.

Speaker 8 Packers.

Speaker 1 Well, a Super Bowl rematch.

Speaker 1 The stations, Fox and CBS gets to keep a certain amount because they don't want to give him up.

Speaker 1 The Jets and Giants, since 2019, are 4-31 playing at night in primetime.

Speaker 1 What was that, memes? Your mic's still on. That was Max.
That was Max. No, that was you.
What was that?

Speaker 14 No, it was Max.

Speaker 1 4-31.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's disgusting. That's insane.

Speaker 6 I got a couple reasons why I love the Steelers this weekend. That stat that you just mentioned.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 The fact that they're squeezing out Fireman Ed,

Speaker 6 who's now taken to the media and there's stories about him in the New York Post. Yeah.
Memes, what do you think about that?

Speaker 6 Fireman Ed is accusing the New York Jets of not putting him on the video screen as much this season.

Speaker 1 I believe him. I saw that.
We're two and four. This is just Winsome Football.

Speaker 10 No, it's a squeeze. Not go on your Instagram.

Speaker 10 There's too many distractions going on with the Jets. We don't need Fireman Ed just going on Instagram.

Speaker 1 It's a chicken of video.

Speaker 6 It's a chicken or the Ed situation.

Speaker 6 Are they losing these games because Fireman Ed's not on the Jumbotron?

Speaker 1 Didn't Fireman Ed officially quit the Jets? He did bullshit that this guy

Speaker 1 just comes around, acts like he's the Jets' number one guy, and that it's, and that the team quit. He quit on the team.
The team didn't quit on him. He quit on the team.
Yeah, he quit after the Bucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then he came back and then he came back.
And then he's like, I just demand respect.

Speaker 6 Like two years later, and he's like, now they're not putting me on the Jumbotron enough. I love that.
I love super fans getting into litigation with the team that they're a super fan of.

Speaker 6 So that's data point number one, why I like the Steelers.

Speaker 6 Data point number two that I have is that the Steelers are wearing their throwback uniforms.

Speaker 1 Oh, now Bumblebee's.

Speaker 6 No, now if we thought that Memes's Jets throwback uniform thing was ridiculous, the Steelers' throwbacks

Speaker 6 look at them and you tell me what's different. Can you pull them up?

Speaker 1 Pull them up.

Speaker 6 Now, but here's a stat. It's got to be the helmet.
Here's a stat about these uniforms. They've worn them four times since they reintroduced them, and they're 4-0.

Speaker 6 So what's different about these throwback uniforms? No idea. Hank, do you have any idea?

Speaker 8 Maybe the shoulder, shoulder?

Speaker 1 Is the black blacker?

Speaker 6 No, it's block lettering. So

Speaker 6 the new Steelers uniforms are in italics. Like the numbers are like at a slant.

Speaker 6 And these are just the block letters on them. What the hell?

Speaker 6 But they are 4-0 when they wear these, but they're the most unthrowback throwbacks of all time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at this tweet from the official Steelers shop account. It says, you asked, we delivered.
Yeah. Who the hell asked? Everyone is.

Speaker 6 everyone's asked same thing so they are 4-0 they played 2018 against the browns 2019 against the rams christmas eve against the raiders in 2022 and then against the packers in 2023 wearing uh the throwback numbers

Speaker 1 so i like so funny so i can't go against see because you see the uh the new ones yeah i see what you're saying they're like sleeker i like the jets because I have a theory that doesn't really make sense when you talk it all the way out, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Speaker 1 I was on with our guys at Pittsburgh Radio today, and

Speaker 1 I think Mike Tomlin, so the courting process for Russell Wilson, they obviously they went out to get him.

Speaker 6 They still had Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 There was the stories about everyone like calling him, being like, please come help Kenny Pickett. This would be great.
Kenny Pickett's like, fucked that, I'm out.

Speaker 1 And they're like, all right, Rush, you're the starter, right? Like, that was what Mike Tomlin told him. Then Justin Fields gets straight into the Steelers.

Speaker 1 And Mike Tomlin, a man of his word, is like, I know I have a better chance with Justin Fields, but I promise Russell Wilson he's a starter. Russell Wilson was healthy last week.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you start Russell Wilson against the Raiders to get his feet wet against a very bad team?

Speaker 1 Instead, he's going to throw him out against the Jets to basically have him suck, and then he's going to be like, See, you guys told me that I need to start Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 I told Russell Wilson it wasn't his job to lose.

Speaker 1 He sucks. Justin Fields.
That's not a bad theory. But then, again, the theory all goes along the lines lines of Mike Tomlins deliberately throwing a football game, which doesn't really make sense.

Speaker 1 But let's just forget that part.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I like the Steelers' defense at night, their own stadium. This is a double renegade.

Speaker 7 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out Devontae Adams. His hamstring got better.
It's crazy. Magically.
It's wild.

Speaker 6 He's good now.

Speaker 6 How did he even hurt his hamstring to begin with? Is it a practice injury? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe a getting to practice injury?

Speaker 10 He pulled up lame, according to Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 He pulled up on a Friday. On a Friday.

Speaker 7 On a Friday before the game on the Friday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's like when Hank is just like,

Speaker 2 do you need me for the yak on Friday?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be around. Do you? No.
Okay.

Speaker 2 You're good to golf.

Speaker 6 It sounds like you're just roasting your nerdiest friend for like coming out to the bar for the weekend. Like, yeah, this guy pulled up lame on Friday.

Speaker 1 Pulled up lame. So lame.

Speaker 6 That's such a mean thing to say about somebody. So lame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I just.

Speaker 1 The Jets are completely out of excuses. It's over.
This is it. You got to win right now with what you got.

Speaker 10 Season's on the line. This is for the season.

Speaker 1 Yes, you got your coach fired.

Speaker 1 You got Devontae Adams. Aaron Rodgers has gotten everything he wants.
The next blame is Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 Well, memes, is there anything else that you can do? If you lose this game, is there another panic move that you can do to save the season?

Speaker 10 Hassan Reddick. Hassan Reddick.

Speaker 6 Sign him. Bring him in, yeah.
Wait, memes.

Speaker 1 Get the deal done. I want to.
Your face there. I said the next move is to blame Aaron Rodgers, and you're not going to do that.

Speaker 1 I like Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he's literally gotten everything he wants. That's fun to watch.

Speaker 6 I want to see how deep this well goes. Like, how many, how many different things, how many different band-aids can you put on after heartbreaking losses before you get to Aaron? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, I think the next panic move is just sit Tyron Smith and then put Shoshanu in because

Speaker 10 the offensive line has looked great. Apparently, Tyron Smith has led up the same amount of sacks in his entire career in this first six games.

Speaker 1 So that's not great.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I also asked me if the

Speaker 1 season is over if they lose this weekend. And he said, well, we got a pretty easy schedule, even if they go two and five.

Speaker 10 Yeah, because if we lose this week, then Aaron Rodgers will do that thing where he's just like, we can run the table, and then it's too early for the run the table.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 10 he'll do that thing later in the season. Then we'll win a bunch of games and miss the playoffs by one game.
This is all getting a little pathetic.

Speaker 1 All right, so next

Speaker 6 so next bannock move is you sign a son Reddick, get him in in the building, get the deal done, right? And then move after that is bench Tyron Smith?

Speaker 1 Yes, but we're going to win this weekend, so we're fine.

Speaker 6 And what's after that? Sign Izzy again?

Speaker 6 Izzy hasn't played all the season.

Speaker 10 He's been inactive.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, that was all the games.
Let's do our picks, and then we'll do Fantasy Fuck Boys.

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Speaker 1 We have to hit one, guys. This is sad.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson, Brian Robinson, Saquon. Okay.
I love that.

Speaker 1 That was good. Bang, bang, bang.
I'm really hoping someone was going to say Saquon. He's got to score back at MetLife this week.

Speaker 6 I love that. And you know, Sirianni wants him to score against the Giants.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 for sure.

Speaker 1 All right, our picks. Who's up first? And what are the records?

Speaker 10 Max is up first. Me and Big Cat are 7-5.

Speaker 6 PFT, 6-6. Hank, 5-7.

Speaker 10 Max, 4-7-1.

Speaker 1 Oh, Max. Half a game back.
Long season.

Speaker 1 When does it not become a long season? I'm half a game back. I know.
It could be the last week of the year, and I wouldn't be back. That's true.

Speaker 6 Although, that did happen to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fucking

Speaker 1 Davis Mills, a piece of shit. Davis Mills.

Speaker 14 The best.

Speaker 1 I love Davis Mills. All right, Max.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go to the Jets.

Speaker 1 Jets minus two.

Speaker 1 Jets minus two against the Steelers. I like it.
I like it.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go with the New England Patriots Patriots five and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm going to take the Chargers minus two, a Super Bowl winner.

Speaker 8 I am going to take

Speaker 8 the Washington Commanders minus eight. Wow.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, are you going to reverse what you did last week? Because we said it at the beginning of the week

Speaker 1 that that was the beginning of the show, that that was the best week for like Gamblers, worst week for Vegas. All the favorites covered.
You did a round-robin of all the underdogs.

Speaker 7 Yep.

Speaker 8 165 bets.

Speaker 8 Over 165.

Speaker 8 I think I'm going to do it again.

Speaker 1 Do it on the DraftKings Sportsbook. All right.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 10 Niners minus one and a half. Okay.

Speaker 10 And I'm going to take the Bills, Titans over 41.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 I'm going to take the Bengals Browns over 41.5.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 uh someone took the jags patriots over 42 nope i will take it jags patriots over 42.

Speaker 6 i like that i'm going to take the commanders and the panthers over 51 and a half

Speaker 6 love taking overs in commanders games

Speaker 1 yes

Speaker 1 max

Speaker 1 i am going to take

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 packers texans over 47 and a half did anyone take that those uniforms Yeah, that's it. We said that was over.
Yeah, no, it's over your uniform. Do you feel good about that?

Speaker 1 I keep saying I like the uniform. Okay.
Do you want me to say it again? I like the uniform. Yeah.

Speaker 16 I haven't hit a total once this year, I think. My total, I.

Speaker 1 If this game ends 10 to 3, will you admit that I was right about the uniforms?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 If exactly 10 to 3. Yeah, okay, perfect.
That's all I wanted.

Speaker 1 I get an apology. That's perfect.
But if it's 6-3, I will not. Okay.
Deal. Deal.
10-3. Great deal.
Great doing business with you. Great doing business with you.
I get 10-3 both ways, though.

Speaker 11 It could be Packers 10-3 or Texans 10-3.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yep.
Right. 10-3 is all I need.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's do.

Speaker 1 So we're going to have our parlay up for in the DraftKings sports book. We have Justin Jefferson, Saquon, and Brian Robinson.
So we're going to hit it this week. I feel good about this week.

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Speaker 1 What's up, boys? What's up, fucker? What up, dickheads?

Speaker 7 What's up, fuck face?

Speaker 8 What's up, fucka? My name's Paul.

Speaker 1 What's up, Paulie? Paulie.

Speaker 14 Paulie D in the pick of destiny. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yo, how are we doing? Nice.

Speaker 8 My statum this week is Tom Brady. Yeah.
The GOAT. The greatest of all time.
He's now an owner. Oakland Raiders.
Second hottest owner on that fucking franchise. Second? Yeah.

Speaker 6 The hottest owner? Second hottest. Who's the hottest?

Speaker 15 Machi Mock.

Speaker 1 Machi Machi, Baby Dave.

Speaker 8 My sit him, Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Kawhi Leonard, yeah.

Speaker 8 What do you do? Playoff P, much like Joel Embiid.

Speaker 8 He doesn't like to play a lot, and what do you know? He got hurt. He's out for an indefinite period of time.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Indefinite.

Speaker 8 Season hasn't even started.

Speaker 1 Does he know the playoffs aren't a while from now?

Speaker 6 That's usually

Speaker 8 probably trying to wait till the playoffs start to come back.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 6 You sound like you might be a little bit from Northeast. Yeah.
So you're a lobsterman? Paul.

Speaker 6 Gloucester. Plawy.

Speaker 14 My sleeper?

Speaker 1 Koopa Cup. Yeah.
Koopa. Koopa Troopa.
Koopa Troopa. Koopa.

Speaker 6 Go kid from the old neighborhood.

Speaker 8 He's back. He's wearing the Guardian cap.
I think he's going to go off this week.

Speaker 1 The Guardian cap a little a little

Speaker 6 light in the loafers

Speaker 1 not me good for cooper

Speaker 6 cooper cooper uh hey what's up assholes my name is uh italia natalia italia natalia yeah you can just call me it nat it nat they call me uh this week uh i'm starting uh taking taking long poops during chess matches oh you guys see that that chess match that they had where the guy got busted for cheating because he kept pooping we got more drama he pooped like nine times times, probably taking all the ceramic benoit balls out of his Derry Air.

Speaker 1 Queens Gambit.

Speaker 6 Queens get great show.

Speaker 8 She was just doing pills the whole time. I forgot about that.
She was fucked up.

Speaker 6 Eyeballs on the side of her head looked like a guy I shot one time.

Speaker 6 My sit him is

Speaker 11 Jerry Reinsdorf.

Speaker 6 Jerry Reinsdorf, sitting him. You're a fan of the Chicago White Sox.
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 That was mine, too.

Speaker 6 The end might be near for you, my friend, because it looks like Jerry is going to sign off the team.

Speaker 1 Looks like he's getting rid of the team. Sell the Bulls too, bitch.

Speaker 6 He said he's going to focus on the Bulls. Am I right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, his son's going to focus on the Bulls.

Speaker 6 He's going to focus on the Bulls. And my sleeper...

Speaker 14 He said we get our 401k and try and, you know,

Speaker 8 make a run at it.

Speaker 1 Don't make a run at the White Sox?

Speaker 6 It'd be a real shame if the White Sox fell off the back of a truck and we owned them all of a sudden. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Would be.

Speaker 6 And then my sleeper going into this weekend is, I'm going to say my sleeper is Aston Genty. Have you guys heard about this kid?

Speaker 6 Morpho Travis Hunter.

Speaker 6 I think he's a really good player. I hope the best for him.
I hope he's a Travis Hunter. It'd be a real shame, a real shame if he decided to save his knees for the NFL.

Speaker 2 I'm a Travis Hunter guy.

Speaker 6 I'm a Travis Hunter down myself.

Speaker 1 I'm a Travis Hunter guy.

Speaker 6 Up and down. I'm just saying, it'd be a real shame.
If something happened, Ashton Genty was like, I don't want to run anymore. I'd rather save my knees for the NFL.

Speaker 1 What's up, fuckers? My name's Nikki Chicken Pomi.

Speaker 6 Hey, nikki chicky

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 brosario

Speaker 1 nick nikki chicken pomerana pomerana prosario yeah yeah i like that

Speaker 1 yeah nick cb nick pb nc and

Speaker 1 c p b n c p b that's how we spell in here uh my stardom is travis hunter he's actually the heisman don't do that that's a good point don't fucking do that my son was jerry rhythm too fuck that guy i hope he uh i hope he he sells the Bulls too.

Speaker 1 Maybe he'll sell the White Sox and be like, ooh, I got a lot of money. Maybe I should sell the Bulls too.

Speaker 6 Maybe he gets addicted to selling.

Speaker 1 That guy fucking stinks. I hate him.
My sleeper is Devontae Adams because he's going to solve all the Jets' problems. I agree.

Speaker 6 Well, and if he doesn't, then they got to sign San Reddick. Yeah.
Then that's going to solve all the problems.

Speaker 1 And then they got to sign another guy and then another guy and then another guy and then another guy and then fire another coach.

Speaker 6 Then they got to get their own stadium.

Speaker 1 And then maybe one of them will be like, maybe Aaron Rodgers is a problem.

Speaker 6 But nah. Nah, not Aaron Rodgers.
He's good. Nah.
Good kid. Nah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's get to our interviews. We got Kyle Rudolph and then a hologram interview with Francis Nagano.
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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program, been forever. Been a while.
Been a long time. It's Kyle Rudolph, retired multi-Pro Bowl winner or multi-Pro Bowl haver.

Speaker 6 That's a good question. Did you win the Pro Bowls?

Speaker 1 One and one.

Speaker 1 2013, 2012 season.

Speaker 1 NFC won that one pretty big.

Speaker 1 I was fortunate to be the MVP. I got a car out of that.
Oh. Oh, nice.
I should have said that. Pro Bowl NVP.
Pro Bowl MVP. Pro Bowl kind of car was it?

Speaker 1 GMC Denali, like a Yukon Denali. My dad is still driving the trucks.
Seriously,

Speaker 1 closing in on like 300,000 miles on it. You got to pay the taxes on it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I think it was

Speaker 1 like three or four grand for the taxes. Oh, that's not bad.
No, not bad at all.

Speaker 6 We had an idea for the Pro Bowl where, you know, to get the players to have some skin in the game, the winning team all gets a year early to free agency if they want.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What do you think about that?

Speaker 6 You think guys would go hard?

Speaker 1 Especially think about the guys that are in that game. Yeah, yeah.
Or no franchise tag. Like,

Speaker 1 they get basically a

Speaker 1 Uno card reverse on a franchise tag.

Speaker 6 If you win the Pro Bowl. Yeah.
I feel like that's... Roger Goodell.
Give us a call. We got tons of ideas.
Most of them are bad, but I think this is a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But so we haven't had you on since I think it was the Teddy Bridgewater injury. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Many years ago, which is crazy because you're now retired from the NFL.

Speaker 1 Obviously, is Teddy Bridgewater still in the NFL? No, he's retired. He's the head coach back at his high school in Miami Northwestern.

Speaker 1 I love that. I love that.
Teddy seems like one of those guys that everyone loved and rooted for. Yeah.
I mean, I remember being with you guys in that room, it was kind of like, yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 1 It was very weird, like, what the fuck? It was bad.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we felt bad being there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're like, well, Teddy obviously can't do it.

Speaker 6 No one was looking us in the eye. They're like, well, you can talk to Kyle and Harrison, and then Blair Walsh will talk to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Blair Walsh one was that was the add-on because I know we were going to interview you and

Speaker 1 we didn't get Zimmer, but Blair Walsh and that just became, that was right after the year that you guys lost to the Seahawks in that cold game. Yeah.
Yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 1 It was literally the training camp after the kick. Yeah, yeah.
That game was cold. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember driving to the stadium. Like, I think we played at noon.

Speaker 1 Because it was bright, too. It was so bright.

Speaker 1 So cold. You check the temperature on your phone, and it wasn't wind chill, minus 26.
It was actual temp was minus 26 driving to the stadium.

Speaker 6 And you guys were outside at the time because the stadium hadn't been completed yet. And then I remember before that game, Bud Grant walked out.

Speaker 6 well, not shirtless, but sleeveless.

Speaker 7 He was wearing a polo shirt.

Speaker 6 He was in his 90s at the time, right? Crazy. And it was just, he was like, I'm going to set the tone for this game by going out for the coin flip, wearing a polo shirt.

Speaker 1 So he had an office like at our facility, you know, Winter Park, the old school facility, and then at TCO, the beautiful big building that they have now.

Speaker 1 He always had an office there, and he'd walk around, and he was still very present, like literally to the day he died. And it was like,

Speaker 1 there's just always this like gritty toughness about him.

Speaker 1 So when he walked out for the coin toss with just a polo shirt on you're like yeah that dude's crazy can't complain about the cold anymore yeah did you get anyone go back to the locker room and they're like fuck i got to take my sleeves off

Speaker 1 i put like my park on i went and sat on the bench and warmed up wait so i so you retired officially as a viking you signed a one-day contract yeah i mean explain that to us because we always are like it's not a real contract i mean i didn't sign it oh no don't say that yeah it's got to be a real contract you didn't sign anything no because technically if i would have signed a one-day contract during the season they would have had to have released someone for me to sign.

Speaker 1 How shitty would that be to be the guy that gets cut so I could retire a vocal?

Speaker 1 Wait, but did you get to do anything? Like, we always joke, like, we'd want to be like, go do a workout or something, or let me actually get the use out of this one-day contract.

Speaker 1 I think the coolest thing that I got to do was like my oldest two, my two, my twin daughters, they remember going to games at U.S. Bank Stadium.
Like, they were old enough for that. My son does not.

Speaker 1 He's five now. The one year that he might have remembered some games was 2020 when no one went to games.

Speaker 1 So he remembers New York and Tampa, which for me, there's not a whole lot to remember from either of those two places. I didn't do much there.

Speaker 6 You caught Tom Brady's last touchdown, right?

Speaker 1 I did. That was about...
That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 6 Did you hang out to the ball?

Speaker 1 So I had the ball. We were actually talking about it out there

Speaker 1 on the floor. I probably devalued one of the most valuable balls in their history.
It was my 50th career touchdown.

Speaker 1 So that's why I kept it.

Speaker 14 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I kept the ball.

Speaker 1 I had no idea that was going to be Tom's last regular season touchdown. I don't think anyone did.

Speaker 1 And so I caught the touchdown knowing it was my 50th. And now, like,

Speaker 1 you know, like the marathon runners that run the marathon and then just drop like 100 yards from the finish line, like their body just can't physically go another inch.

Speaker 1 That was like me getting the 50 touchdowns. I had like 47 touchdowns in 2019, and I retired in 2022 with my last last game catching my 50th touchdown.

Speaker 1 Like, I had never had a season with less than three touchdowns in a year, and I went like one in 20, one in 21. And then the last game of 22, I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm just, I'm going to retire with 49 touchdowns. It's the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 And I caught the touchdown against the Falcons from Tom. So I'm like, all right, I got, you know, I got the ball, my 50th career touchdown.
Like, that's pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 And then I gave it to the equipment manager. And then obviously he had it painted.
It says Kyle Rudolph's 50th touchdown. Oh, Oh,

Speaker 1 it does say from Tom Brady on it. That's awesome, though.

Speaker 6 I feel like that might be like when they make a baseball card and there's a small error on it or something. Maybe the value of the ball is even higher because you did that to him.

Speaker 1 You got it. You know what you got to do is you got to donate that to Canton because then it will just be Tom Brady's last touchdown ball, but it'll be your, it will sign for your guy.

Speaker 1 Because I'll never get in the Hall of Fame. So I could live in Canton forever.
Yeah, they'll be like, here's Tom Brady's last touchdown pass. They'll just say Kyle Rudolph 50th touchdown.

Speaker 9 They got to do that.

Speaker 1 Take my boys to Canton in like 10 years and be like, look, your dad's in the whole thing.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, that's a fun fact, though. You can always say that.
Like the last one that he threw, unless he comes back and plays for the Raiders in two years, which

Speaker 6 I know it's impossible for him to do that. But in the back of my head, I'm like, well, what if?

Speaker 1 What if?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's also supposedly impossible for him to continue to do the stuff that he's going to do at Fox. Yeah.
Like I read something, like the rules that he will have to follow.

Speaker 1 It'll almost be impossible for him to broadcast games with the protocol. Like he can't be in production meetings.
He can't talk to anyone. He can't go into other facilities across the league.

Speaker 6 He can't criticize officials, he has to abide by the tampering policy. So, I don't know, is he allowed to say, like, hey, this player is really good? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I don't know what the rules are going to be, but it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 if they're going to change it, to your point, if they're going to change the rules for anybody, yeah, it would be Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like if Tom wants to come play quarterback, they'd probably let him. Did Brady ever accidentally call you Gronk?

Speaker 1 Would he ever give you a look and you're like, you're thinking I'm not Gronk? Yeah, for sure. Like, I remember

Speaker 1 probably like halfway through training camp. You know, it's interesting because I had obviously never played with a quarterback like Tom.
Not many people have.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it was more so the way in which he just simplified everything.

Speaker 1 Like, if I'm running a corner out and it's zone coverage and there's a massive void in the defense, like when I come out of my corner route, like turn around, I'm going to throw you the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like so many quarterbacks that I played with were like, hey, you have a corner out.

Speaker 1 You got to run up to 12 yards. You got to put your foot in the ground at 12.

Speaker 1 And I want you at 16 to 18 yards like right over there and if you're not there i'm going to be pissed off because on the sheet of paper that we looked at on wednesday it says you have a corner route and that's where you're supposed to be to whereas tom was like almost at times like recess like he threw again so i run up i got a corner out um you know i get by the linebacker i put my foot in the ground thinking oh man i'm gonna take this thing like there's no one over here and all of a sudden the ball like skips next to me on the ground i'm like what the fuck like yeah and i turn around he's like bro what what are you doing?

Speaker 1 There's no one there. Like, turn around.
Turn around right away. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Now I know why Gronk caught so many balls because it's like, hey, when no one's around you and you're open, he's like, I know you're open. I'm going to throw you the ball.
Right.

Speaker 1 And I felt like that's one of the things with Tom. Like, so many quarterbacks are worried about,

Speaker 1 okay, here's the play. What do my guys have? What's my read? What's the defense giving me? For him, he's just like.
I know what my guys have.

Speaker 1 I've seen what you're going to give me like five times already. Like, so I'm just looking and it's like, oh, no one's over there.
I'm going to throw the ball there. Yeah.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, that makes total sense. Yeah, it becomes intuitive.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Just get open.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, yeah, I probably should have done that. Gronk for sure would have done that.

Speaker 1 It'll never happen again, Tom. I promise.

Speaker 6 Did you ever try to talk to him with like a limited vocabulary just to make him feel comfortable? I'm kind of like Gronk. Just throw ball.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Throw a ball, I'll catch ball. Throw ball, I'll catch ball.
Yeah. No, it's it's for me, you know, that was really the only reason why I went to Tampa.

Speaker 1 He Tom had reached out kind of earlier in the offseason as OTAs OTAs were going on, not sure what Gronk was going to do, whether he retired or not.

Speaker 1 And quite honestly, at that point, he was like, look, if he comes back, I'll take both of you. Right.
Like, get down here. You know, for me, at that point in my career,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say

Speaker 1 I didn't know that was going to be my last year going into it, but I knew the end was near, and I just wanted to win. That's all I cared about.

Speaker 1 And he's like, hey, we have one of the most talented teams I've ever been on. And I'm like, sweet, say no more.
I'll be down there. And then obviously Gronk retired.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, now I definitely want to go. yeah

Speaker 1 what what down the stretch what was the what was the moment where you're like oh okay this is we're getting towards the end was there like something that you could feel playing where you're like oh my burst or you know yeah I mean no I mean like I

Speaker 1 tell people you can't lose your burst when you never had one yeah that's true could be when like I've I've never lost my burst yeah we still have our burst

Speaker 1 and like that was part of probably what was so frustrating for me is like, you know, people like, oh, you know, you're getting older, like you're in your 30s now i'm like i'm the exact same size that i've been my whole career and my skill set has never been my speed right um i'm a big guy you can throw the ball anywhere big catch radius um that has nothing to do with running fast right so you can't lose something that you never had right um but for me like i knew it was coming to the end where like what we do for previously 16 games now 17 games like it's brutal it's a grind.

Speaker 1 And if you don't enjoy it, it's hard to go out and fake it and be like, yeah, I'll keep doing this. Like, no, like, I just kind of lost the fun in it.

Speaker 1 And once I lost the joy and the enjoyment that I got out of the game, that's where I knew it's like, it's, it's time to hang them up. Like, you can't get that back once it's gone.

Speaker 1 That might, that must have made it somewhat easier.

Speaker 2 I obviously

Speaker 1 not easy to retire something that you've been doing your whole life, but to have that feeling of like, I feel it. I know it's not the same as it used to be.
It's got to make it a little bit easier.

Speaker 1 No, I'd say the decision's not easy, but it makes the transition easier. Yeah.
Because you know that you're making the right decision based on how you feel. And ultimately, when

Speaker 1 I tell people, like, when you can walk away from the game on your own, not many guys get that opportunity. Right.
Football is often taken from us.

Speaker 1 And then you're on the outside, you know, looking in, man, like, OTAs are starting. I should be on a team.
And like, training camp started, like, I should be in a camp somewhere.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, you see preseason games on TV and regular season games.

Speaker 1 And like last season the the 23 season otas training camp regular season we went back to minnesota week three for the retirement deal with my family not once was i like damn i should be that like i should be out yeah that's got to be i was just yeah like when i was done i was done um it's funny i actually got a phone call because like early in free agency there was still uh a few teams that were like hey you know what do you think you still want to come out um actually the raiders reached out in like august so it was like five or six days into training camp.

Speaker 1 My agent called me and he's like, Hey, are you sure you're done? And I'm like, I'm at brunch in New York City, and it's like 9 a.m. and I'm already drunk.
Yeah, like it's August 1st. Like, I'm done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 6 Yeah, probably a good call not going to that team less. That would have been a chaotic environment for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's honestly, you know, one of the other ones was Cincinnati. I'm from Cincinnati.
Obviously, they have one of the best quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 We've talked about Joe Burrow and just like his elite ability.

Speaker 1 You know, he took a franchise that I saw just be abysmal for decades to a Super Bowl, which I never would have thought would have happened. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we started talking to them, and, you know, I like the idea, the idea of ending my career back home, going and basically playing there for peanuts, you know, having my family be able to come to all my games and watch games, and then being on a team with a legit quarterback in a good, good roster.

Speaker 1 The year before, going to Tampa, like waiting as long as I did, ultimately believing that I'm picking the best situation possible. And then

Speaker 1 having, like, for me personally and as a team, like we completely underachieved as a team, we were eight and nine. We won our division, but it was because it was the NFC South.

Speaker 1 It was the worst division in football. Lost in the first round of the playoffs.
And for me, it was just like not enjoyable of a year at all.

Speaker 1 And I thought I was picking like the most favorable situation possible. So that was kind of playing in my mind as free agency was starting at that point where

Speaker 1 I think this is the best situation possible, but like, how do you really know? Yeah. And sure enough, I would have been playing with Jake Browning.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We like Jake Browning, but it would have been with me in Minnesota. Yeah, it would have changed.
Yeah, I would have to say that. I thought you were doing one.
Right, right.

Speaker 1 You're doing one thing and it's completely different.

Speaker 6 I also feel like if you go to Cincinnati to end your career, there's probably a good likelihood that you just stay there, right?

Speaker 1 And then you're going to eat all the chili and the chicken. Oh, have you seen the chili ice cream? I had not seen the same thing.

Speaker 6 Do you know they got Skyline chili ice graters? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, Graters. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 It's not the same.

Speaker 1 So Graters is its own deal. Yeah.
Um, yeah, but like when you get like a Cincinnati pack, Skyline would be in it, Graters would be in it. There's like a pizza sauce, Montgomery in.

Speaker 6 No, no, no, they Grators just made a Skyline chili-flavored ice cream.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's gross. I don't know how I feel about that.
I'm gonna try it. I have to.
Yeah, Kyle did what's for lunch with Donnie and he made Skyline chili.

Speaker 1 Was it good? Unbelievable. So, Donnie came in yesterday.

Speaker 6 He was like, PFT, Kyle wants Skyline chili for lunch. What's in it? I was like, dude, just cinnamon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just for the fucking colour. It's crazy, like cinnamon, chocolate.

Speaker 1 Because when we were planning the trip this week, they asked me kind of what I wanted to do. And we were in Minnesota for 12 years.

Speaker 1 There's some Minnesota type things, like the juicy Lucy burgers, the hot dishes, all that stuff's great. And I'm like, man, you know, born and raised in Cincinnati.
Like, I love my skyline chili.

Speaker 1 All sent because you can get the packs of like, how many people are we serving? Four, eight, thirty?

Speaker 1 Like, I'll just give me the number of people, and I'll have them send it all up, and we can just rock out with it. They're like, no, no, no, Donnie wants to make it from scratch.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I was like, okay,

Speaker 1 this is going to be. And sure enough, just walking across the basketball court into the kitchen, I could smell it.
Yeah. And it smelled like Skyline Philly.
It tasted phenomenal.

Speaker 1 So it was pretty cool for me to get to do what's for lunch with Donnie and have a kid who grew up in Minnesota and like watch me play for the Vikings. I know, yeah.

Speaker 7 He's a big Vikings fan. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't think when we interviewed you, it was before the Minneapolis Miracle, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So yeah, that one of the best plays, most iconic plays, probably in NFL history, and you were there for it. What was going through your head when that happened?

Speaker 1 It's funny because

Speaker 1 everybody remembers Diggs' touchdown and like the miracle to win the game and the walk-off touchdown that it was.

Speaker 1 But people don't really know kind of the whole flow of the game. You know, we were up like 16, I think it was 16 to nothing at halftime.
Like nothing could go wrong.

Speaker 1 They would come out at the start of the second half. Obviously, they have Drew Brees, Sean Payton.
Like, they were, the Saints had a run where they were really good for a long time.

Speaker 1 And you never really felt like the game was over. But for us, it was like interception, blocked punt, like everything that we could possibly do wrong to let them back in the game, we did.

Speaker 1 And then, sure enough, the last couple minutes of the game. was like back and forth, back and forth.
They score. I think there was like 26 seconds left.
But we're only down one.

Speaker 1 All we needed to do was get in field goal range to ultimately have a chance at kicking a game-winning field goal indoors in a dome.

Speaker 1 We weren't kicking this one at TCF Bank Stadium with it being negative 20 degrees. This one was going to be inside.

Speaker 1 So, you know, we had 26 seconds. I don't think we had any timeouts.
And it was like, oh, really, all we need is like two chunk plays.

Speaker 1 And if we can get like a big chunk and get out of bounds, now we're in really good shape. And we had the play that we called

Speaker 1 repeatedly, like back-to-back, ultimately the one that Diggs scored on. And, you know, it was kind of myself, Jarius Wright, and Diggs on one side of the formation.
I go to the flat.

Speaker 1 Jarius would go like a 12-yard out, and then Diggs would take the high corner. And ultimately, it's like, we want to put three guys where you only have two defenders.

Speaker 1 There's only a corner and a safety over there, and you've got to pick which of the two you want to cover. So we caught it on, I think it was second down,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 I like run out to the flat and turn and look back thinking the ball is going to come to me because there's no one around.

Speaker 1 Like they guarded Jarius and they guarded Diggs, like the 12-yard guy and the deep guy. And I'm like, this is perfect.
Case can throw me the ball. I'll get like 10, 12 yards and get out of bounds.

Speaker 1 Now we're 10 yards closer to that field goal.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I run to the flat thinking the ball is coming, look over my shoulder, and he chucks it to Jarius Wright, who was probably like 15 yards downfield, over his head, out of bounds.

Speaker 1 I'm like, shit, like now what are we going to do? Like, you know, that would have been 10, 15 yards.

Speaker 1 We just wasted, you know, however many five six seconds um so we called come back we call the exact same play and the next time the corner jumped me in the flat and it was like so we were in the bunch i run to the flat the corner covered me right away and immediately i'm like what the fuck are you doing yeah well you're not supposed to be here no like you

Speaker 1 We have no timeouts. We need like 35 yards to get into field goal range.
If he throws me the ball, we're doing you a favor.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be able to to get 35 yards and get out of bounds. Like,

Speaker 1 why would you cover me?

Speaker 6 Because he did it over the last play, and he was like, fuck, I should have got Kyle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But ultimately, that left Jarius and Diggs two-on-one with whoever that safety was.

Speaker 1 He chucked it to Diggs. We all saw the play where he catches it, keeps his balance,

Speaker 1 safety.

Speaker 1 Johnson, I think he's in Baltimore now.

Speaker 1 And we all were like yelling, like, you got to get out of bounds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and to me, like, I think about that, if that was me in that situation, I probably would have caught the ball and ran out of bounds immediately.

Speaker 1 And then it would have been up to a kicker to win the game, which obviously we saw how that went for us once in the past. There's a couple times in Viking.
I just wanna see that. I caught a ball.

Speaker 1 So in that Seahawks game, I caught a ball in that two-minute drill and got to the nine-yard line. And so I went out of bounds at the nine-yard line thinking this game's over.

Speaker 1 So for me, it's like I would have caught that ball and probably went right out of bounds because that's what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 And for Diggs to like have the wherewithal to keep his balance and then just like run and score, it was amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tough question, but do you think the way that game ended had anything to do with how you guys came out against the Eagles the next week? Or were the Eagles just that good?

Speaker 1 I mean, they were obviously on the Super Bowl round.

Speaker 1 I think it was a combination of that. But then also, like, I remember that Eagles game, we went right down the field the first drive and scored.
Yeah. I caught a touchdown.
It was 7-0.

Speaker 1 They went

Speaker 1 maybe 3-out, but they didn't have the ball long on offense. We got the ball back.

Speaker 1 A couple first downs, getting ready to cross midfield.

Speaker 1 And I remember thinking to myself, man, these Philly fans, if we can score and go up 14-0, they might boo Nick Foles out of here. And we'll get him to turn and have the advantage being on the road.

Speaker 1 And it was like the next third down. We threw a pick six.
And it was. It was all over.
It was over.

Speaker 1 They were cranking Meek Mill. and

Speaker 1 it was like someone hit a bee's nest with a stick. I mean, just the place was going bananas.
So everyone sees that score. I was like 38-7 or something.
I don't even remember what the final was.

Speaker 1 But so they made it 7-7. Then it was 14-7.
We had the ball on like the 10 or 12-yard line,

Speaker 1 getting ready to score with a minute or two left before half.

Speaker 1 And again,

Speaker 1 I run a corner out. I look over my shoulder thinking the ball is going to be in the air.
The game's tied 14-14.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, I come out of my break, look over my shoulder, there's no ball. So then ultimately, I look down to the quarterback.
Well, the ball was on the ground. So Case had got strip-sacked.

Speaker 1 So instead of the game being tied 14-14, they have a sack fumble. They go down and score 21-7.
They get the ball to start the second half 28-7.

Speaker 1 The next time we touched the ball, it was 28-7 instead of 14-14.

Speaker 1 And And it's like, it's over.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't how you came out. No.
It was just

Speaker 1 how we came out. And then for them, honestly, like

Speaker 1 they were hitting everything. Like, Foles hit a flea flicker to Torrey Smith.
Like, he literally caught it like 50 yards downfield, almost out of bounds. Yeah.
He hit Alshon Jeffrey on a bomb.

Speaker 1 Like, they were just dialing it up. Did it fuck you up, though, a little knowing you're going to this NFC championship game in the Super Bowls at home? Well, it had never happened.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 6 And then it happened with the Bucks, yeah.

Speaker 1 Bucks and Rams. It was like two out of the next three three years, it happened right away after we were so close.

Speaker 1 It fucked me up more coming back after we lost and then like having Philly and New England come to me. Like that, that sucked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember landing.

Speaker 1 That was, I was fortunate to be in the Pro Bowl that year. So after coming back from the NSU championship loss, we went to Orlando for the week and it gave us a break being in Orlando for the week.

Speaker 1 You didn't really think about it, but we landed back from Orlando that Monday. Super Bowls.
And it was like the whole airport was decked out in Super Bowl gear.

Speaker 1 Like the Patriots plane had landed while we were in the terminal, and like you see it. And that's where I was like, I got to get the help.

Speaker 1 And it was also, I remember that Super Bowl week so well because I have a bunch of friends from Minnesota and I went out to dinner with them. I think the Friday night.

Speaker 1 And they were like, thank God we had like decent weather this week.

Speaker 7 It was like 20 degrees all week.

Speaker 1 Right. But they were right.
Like that was actually like incredible weather for the movie. I think it was like up till Thursday or maybe even Friday morning that week.
It was.

Speaker 1 It was like in the 20s, which is a heat wave. The weekend, though, like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, it was brutally cold.

Speaker 6 I remember that Friday, it was like negative eight walking out to the car, and I was like, What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they were like, Yeah, no, it's been incredible how it's been beautiful. The sun's out, it's 20 degrees.
We're like, We're worried about this weather, and it's been awesome weather.

Speaker 6 Do you have any expectations put on you? If you're if it's your hometown that's hosting the Super Bowl, do those players on teams like, are you doing any events that week or anything?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, for us, I felt like it was kind of unique because it wasn't like we had four weeks to plan it having not made the playoffs. Like, we were fully anticipating,

Speaker 1 you know, for me, it's like, I'm coming back to Minnesota. I'm going to have my wife worry about the tickets.
Like, you handle all that stuff. I got to focus on a game.

Speaker 1 Instead, we lost, went to Orlando, came home. And then basically, at that point, it was like, how much money can I make this week? Yeah.
It's in our hometown.

Speaker 1 Like, make as much money as possible with all the appearances and whatnot. And then for us, we got the hell out of there on, I think it was like Friday or Saturday.

Speaker 1 So you didn't come to the worst Sparshill party ever, did you? I was there.

Speaker 6 Oh, that was so good.

Speaker 1 That was pretty bad, yeah. That was, I just remember no one could get in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one could get in. Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, you might be thinking of the live radio setup that we had. Oh, yeah.
I met Friday. We had this big indoor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like in the, there was like rows, like, uh, it was like an atrium. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were there. Yeah, yeah.
That was, yeah, I just remember SVP called me.

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm standing in line in like 10-degree weather. Exactly.
And you stand in line, you're freezing. Yeah, and Greg Olson, I think, got a table and it was just taken.

Speaker 6 and it was it was just that was an embarrassing and glenny balls had to get called outside to bring some famous musician and i'm trying to remember it was bad it was like flow ride or something we did with our

Speaker 1 grab our super bowl party history is like we just crushed it in houston the first year we should never have done it again that was the best party ever and every single one after that was down jawru and a shanti it was yeah yeah and it was like everyone came and everyone's like that's the best party of the week we should have just walked off right

Speaker 1 the torrential damage oh yeah you did that one absolutely yeah rough and rowdy.

Speaker 6 He got washed out. Yeah.
Like the apocalypse, the bridge was like on fire.

Speaker 1 Scooter McGavin just sitting in like three feet of rain. Yeah.
That picture. I'm at our party.

Speaker 6 I was actually just looking at a list here of quarterbacks that you've caught touchdown passes from because I looked it up. I was like, well, Tom Brady's, you know, obviously one from him.

Speaker 6 Can you name every quarterback that you've caught a touchdown from?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Christian Ponder, Matt Castle, Joe Webb.

Speaker 1 Joe Webb. Joe Webb.
What was that? I believed in Joe Webb. I was in Washington on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 Joe, I lost a lot of money thinking Joe Webb was going to go into Green Bay in the playoff game, I believe. I was like, Joe Webb is the answer.
Michael Vick did it. Joe Webb.

Speaker 1 So 2011 was when I caught the touchdown from Joe Webb

Speaker 1 on Christmas Eve, second to last year. That was the game we beat Washington in Washington.
So we didn't get Andrew Luck. We would have had the number one overall pick if we had lost to Washington.

Speaker 1 And we lost to Chicago the next week. So

Speaker 1 Joe Webb kept us from having Andrew Luck. Joe Webb.

Speaker 1 But ultimately, yeah, so that Joe Webb, the next year, Christian got hurt week 17. We beat Green Bay at home to then play them in the wild card round in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 And the whole week, we like, because media is only at practice during the individual period. And like Christian pretended like he was practicing, even though he couldn't even throw a football.

Speaker 1 And it was like, we tried to keep it a secret that Joe was going to be the starter. But then ultimately, we didn't change anything.
Like, we didn't change the offense to suit Joe Webb.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to go a full Joe Webb on him. The next week, Green Bay goes to San Fran and Colin Kaepernick runs all over.

Speaker 1 And it's like we had that guy the week before. We could have just let Joe run all over the place.

Speaker 2 I haven't thought of Joe Webb in forever.

Speaker 1 I was a big believer in Joe Webb.

Speaker 6 A very frustrating playoff game to watch. I was like, do something.

Speaker 1 I know you can do it. Joe Webb.

Speaker 1 Love Joe to death from Birmingham, Alabama.

Speaker 1 As Joe's lips are frozen in Green Bay,

Speaker 1 with his thick, like Birmingham accent, trying to hear him enunciate the plays, that was a challenge in itself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then it would have been.

Speaker 6 Let's see, who'd you say so far? You said Christian Ponder, Tom Brady, Joe Webb.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to go chronological order. That would probably be my best chance.
So it would be Christian, Joe, Matt Castle,

Speaker 1 Teddy Bridgewater,

Speaker 1 Sam Bradford,

Speaker 1 Case Keenum,

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins,

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones,

Speaker 1 and then Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 There's one.

Speaker 1 One more. Who would it have been? Matt Castle.

Speaker 1 Oh, you said Matt Castle? Okay. All right.
Yeah, you got them all.

Speaker 1 Because then there's, I mean, I've also had games that I've started with quarterbacks as well that I didn't catch touchdowns from, too. So you've got Donovan McNabb, Marcus Freeman, Sean Hill.

Speaker 6 A lot of people thought that Marcus Freeman was the best quarterback coming out of college. Yeah.
Oh, no, that's Josh Freeman. Josh Freeman.
That's why I met Josh Freeman.

Speaker 1 That's why I met Josh Freeman. Marcus Freeman's a head coach in a break.
The Donovan McNabb Vikings era was a good time. Donovan tight games.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I went to a Monday night game

Speaker 1 last year. Yeah, Bears Vikings.
And he was, I just remember sitting there and like chuckling to myself because every pass was just like five yards in front of everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was that was Donovan. Christian started the next week.

Speaker 1 The Josh Freeman. I can't wait.
I said Marcus Freeman. what a fucking idiot.
A coach at Notre Dame. That's okay.

Speaker 1 Josh Freeman, we played

Speaker 1 in London against the Steelers. We were 0-3.

Speaker 1 Christian was the starter for the first three weeks. He got smoked in like a Browns game.
Remember, I think it was Phil Taylor was like the big defensive tackle from the Browns. Yeah.
Massive dude.

Speaker 1 Like he hit Christian. I think he broke like two or three of his ribs.
So Christian was out when we went to London. Matt Kessel started.
We beat the Steelers in London.

Speaker 1 And like, we were talking about it over there on Yak. Like, we stayed the night in London and then flew home the next morning.
We were one and three, but we were going into the bye week with a win.

Speaker 1 We had a huge good time in London.

Speaker 1 Flew back. Matt started the next week against Carolina.

Speaker 1 That was the year that Carolina won like 15 in a row or something.

Speaker 1 So they beat us. And it was like, ultimately, we had traded for Josh Freeman over the bye week.
He had been there for like five practices.

Speaker 1 We started him on Monday night in New York. And it was like one of the historically worst performances by a quarterback ever.
And I felt so bad for him.

Speaker 1 He had been there for five days and we were like, yeah, let's throw him out there on Monday night football against the Giants.

Speaker 1 So that was bad.

Speaker 6 But then they ran that back with Josh Dobbs, right?

Speaker 1 This might be a dumb question. This is probably just like my memory and just all the years of football.
Was Josh Freeman a big snake guy? Yeah. He was

Speaker 1 like all over his place, apparently.

Speaker 9 He was a big snake guy. He was really.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. That's a fact.

Speaker 7 I didn't have in my brain.

Speaker 1 I could remember what I'm doing later today. But I'm like, no, I actually just have Josh Freeman was a snake guy in my life.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I never went to a spot, but I heard that you just kind of had them everywhere. Like they weren't in

Speaker 1 glass

Speaker 1 free range. Yeah.
Yeah. Free range.
That's snake guy. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, coming out of college, the big argument was who do you want

Speaker 6 Cam Newton or Josh Freeman? And I feel like Cam Newton might have won that debate.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 1 I'd say he probably won that one. Yeah, I mean, but Josh, I mean, he could throw it 100 yards.
I mean, he had an absolute cannon.

Speaker 1 Who's the hardest?

Speaker 1 What's the hardest you've ever been hit by any player? Lance Briggs. Oh, Chicago.

Speaker 1 He had a lot of muscle behind him.

Speaker 1 It was the Sunday after Thanksgiving. We were playing in Chicago, noon kickoff.

Speaker 1 I was running like a crossing route. I didn't get the ball.
And he came down and just smoked me.

Speaker 1 Probably would be a penalty today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you get mad about that? I was like sitting on the ground, and it was kind of like one of those things I was collecting my thoughts.

Speaker 1 Didn't really hit me right away. I was like, okay, like he hit me pretty good.
Go back to the huddle. The next play was fourth in goal.
We ended up turning it over on downs. Went to the sideline.

Speaker 1 I think the Bears went three and out. They punted it back to us.
And then we went three and out on the next drive and we got the ball back. And it was autopilot.
Like I was out there.

Speaker 1 I was in the huddle. I I was where I was supposed to be.
I ran the route that I was supposed to run. I blocked, like, no clue, no recollection.

Speaker 1 Come to the sideline, and like, one of the practice squad tight ends, like, tossed me a like a beanie. And I'm like, bro, what's this for? He's like, get your hat.
Like, oh, holy shit.

Speaker 1 What do I need a hat for? And they were like, uh, Sug, like, our head trainer, like, Suge, you need to talk to Rudy. He's he's a little out there right now.

Speaker 1 And so, sure enough, they like came over and like, you you know, do you know who we're playing?

Speaker 1 You didn't have an answer? No. Oh, wow.
They were like, do you know what month it is?

Speaker 1 And I was like, October. I was sure as shit it was October.
It was the Sunday after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 I said October like that.

Speaker 1 Nailed it. Nailed it.
Yeah. And I'm like, let me get back in the game.
So they took me to the locker room. I failed my iPad test miserably.

Speaker 1 Our head doctor was like, you know, do you have anybody at home that can look out after you tonight? You know, just make sure you're all right.

Speaker 16 I'm like, yeah, I live with Harrison Smith.

Speaker 1 They're like, he's on the fucking table over there. He knocked themselves out in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 And they're like, well, do both of you have someone that can take care of you? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 My not wife, Jordan. It's like, she'll take care of us.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. She took care of both of you? Yeah, both of us.
And it was funny because they like told her, they're like, you know, tried to, you know, typical.

Speaker 1 Don't watch TV, like make sure you wake him up throughout the course of the night.

Speaker 1 And like we got back and and we're like watching Sunday night football in a dark room, exactly what you're not supposed to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't you dare wake us up. Like, if we're sleeping, don't wake us up.
Um, but yeah, so that was the hardest I ever got hit. And it was funny because after

Speaker 1 I said that and I walked like back towards my locker,

Speaker 1 it like immediately came back. Like something triggered my mind that Notre Dame, I think there was like a, I saw, because we had Everson Griffin and Matt Khalil.

Speaker 1 Castle may have been on the team at that.

Speaker 1 We had like a bunch of USC guys on the team, and like, I don't know if I put like a Notre Dame something in one of their lockers, or it triggered my memory like right away.

Speaker 1 And I like turned and ran back, and I'm like, it's the Sunday after Thanksgiving, Notre Dame just beat USC last night, like, I'm good. And they're like, you hit the showers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, you're not going back.

Speaker 6 So, the iPad test that they give you, what was on the iPad?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like a lot of like memory thing and like numbers. So, like, hey, here's

Speaker 1 five numbers in order, Like, repeat them back. Or, you know, here's six words.
Like, we want you to remember them. And then we're going to ask you other questions.

Speaker 1 And we're going to come back and say, like, hey, read me the six words.

Speaker 1 If you don't know what month it is or who you're playing, I don't even know why they gave me the iPad test. Right.
Like, clearly I failed. Well, you were confident with October.

Speaker 1 So maybe they're like, oh, he's got it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they just want to have him believe in it. Yeah.
I love the idea of them sending you and Harrison Smith home together and just like, okay, look after each other. Yeah, take care of one another.

Speaker 6 You guys got this.

Speaker 1 So what was that like living with a teammate was that it was cool you know like so harry and i obviously we went to notre dame together he was a year ahead of me at notre dame so he was there for five i left after three so he got to notre dame in 07 i got to minnesota in 11 and then he got there in 12.

Speaker 1 so i had already been there for a year uh we drafted him in the first round and like he was trying to figure out kind of where to live And I'm like, dude, just live with me. Like, let's live together.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it was, it was awesome.
Like, we, we had a blast. It was, you know, to be able to live with one of your college buddies as you're both still trying to figure out the whole NFL thing.

Speaker 1 For me, it was year two.

Speaker 1 It was a good year for us both, too. Like, we went to the playoffs.
You know, Harry kind of,

Speaker 1 I don't think a lot of people expected him to be as good of a professional as he was like right away.

Speaker 1 You know, he came in. I think he had three touchdowns as a rookie, like pick sixes.

Speaker 1 balled out from the beginning. Yeah.
All right. So I got a couple last questions.
It's been awesome catching up with you.

Speaker 1 Do you still talk to Charlie Weiss? I do, actually.

Speaker 1 And his bird. Because I think you were the one who told us about the bird.
Solfuego. Yeah, Solfuego.
I think you were the one who.

Speaker 1 Were you not? No. Who told us about the bird?

Speaker 6 We might have invented the bird, but then we talked to Charlie Weiss. He's like, Yeah, I got a bird.
I got it.

Speaker 1 He's got two birds that he lives in his house, and they like attack people when they walk in.

Speaker 6 Asshole parrot named Solfuego.

Speaker 7 Solfuego.

Speaker 1 No. So every time I would spend time, he always had like

Speaker 1 golden retriever, like dogs.

Speaker 1 Don't remember the birds. But yeah,

Speaker 1 I still talk to Charlie probably weekly. I was just texting with him the other day.
I saw him. He came over.

Speaker 1 Um, you know, obviously, he lives on the Atlantic side of South Florida, so he drove over to Tampa a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1 We got together, um, but for me, like 18 years old, you go to college, and your head coach is so much more than a head coach for you at that point in your life.

Speaker 1 Like, for me, he really became like a father figure and someone that I'm still super close with to this day. And

Speaker 1 Charlie's awesome, man. He's lost like

Speaker 1 150 pounds. Holy shit.
Yeah, he looks great.

Speaker 1 Like when I saw him a couple weeks ago, he's moving around as good as I've ever seen him move around.

Speaker 1 Charlie Jr.'s got a couple kids now, and it's just like

Speaker 1 Ole Miss, right? Yeah, he's the offensive coordinator at Ole Miss. And I think that really kind of just,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 opened his eyes to, you know, like, I need to get it together. Like, you know, Charlie, the grandkids, like, I want to be here for them.
And it's been awesome.

Speaker 1 You know, we, one of my college roommates, Mike Golick Jr., his family has a charity event back in South Bend every summer, do a cool golf tournament and stuff. And Charlie was back this year.

Speaker 1 We had like 10 or 12 of the guys from my class. It was just awesome to see him, awesome to spend time with him and see him doing so well.
That's awesome.

Speaker 6 You ever hang out with Golick's pugs?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So the dogs are always around.

Speaker 1 They're just the best family. I mean, like, all the krs, like Mr.
Golick, Mrs. Golick,

Speaker 1 they they really took all of us in. They were kind of like our parents when we were in school.
Um, and they're they're good people. Yeah, no, we love the Golicks, we always love the Golicks.

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So

Speaker 1 you came to the office today where it was awesome. We did the pro football show, which will be out Friday night.
You're doing a bunch. You did the gauntlet.

Speaker 1 You're not plugging anything, but we got to plug the fact that you are still doing an awesome foundation. So we got to talk about it.
That's

Speaker 1 for me.

Speaker 1 Coming out of the pandemic, Jason Zucker, who played for the Minnesota Wild, he's on the Buffalo Sabres currently. We did a ton of stuff together in the Twin Cities around Masonic Children's Hospital.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we had all the traditional events.

Speaker 1 We had the barstool golf guys out to our golf tournament. I remember that.
We had Dave and Riggs, Trent, Frankie.

Speaker 1 Like, when Frankie was Dave's camera guy, like, I give him a hard time because it's like way before any of you guys were famous, you were celebrities in my golf tournament.

Speaker 1 And, like, now they're huge. They were not famous at the time they were celebrities in our golf tournament.
But we always had those traditional events, like the fancy events, the golf tournaments.

Speaker 1 Hell, we even created like a beer Olympics on Lake Minnetonka, which is a touchy subject given the history of the Vikings in Lake Minnetonka. Well, and the history of the Beer Olympics.
Yeah. For us.

Speaker 1 So we called it

Speaker 1 the Lake Bash. That was our

Speaker 1 politically correct way of saying we're going to raise money for a children's hospital, but we're going to play Flip Cup and Quarters and Beer Pong and all this fun stuff.

Speaker 1 So it's like we tried to find as many creative ways as we possibly could to raise money for the children's hospital there. And the children's hospital is amazing.

Speaker 1 Like the nurses, the doctors, the staff, everybody, they're incredible.

Speaker 1 I've loved serving them as much much as we can over the course of my time there.

Speaker 1 And, you know, for me, it was really coming out of the pandemic where we didn't have any events. Like, you couldn't have all the traditional charity events that you always had.

Speaker 1 And sitting down with Jason and some of our other supporters from the Children's Hospital who have become co-founders in Ultru, the company that we started to ultimately raise money for nonprofits, was we wanted to come up with a way in which, like, you think about sports, particularly sports.

Speaker 1 Obviously, now we're in music.

Speaker 1 We have, it's wild. Right now, on our website on altru.com, I want to challenge the Stoolies because the Swifties went crazy this week.

Speaker 1 I'm going to the Taylor Swift concert next Friday in New Orleans. Okay.
Thanks to DeMario Davis. He had a suite there.

Speaker 1 You know, he hooked us up with some tickets. My daughters probably won't see the show, so I can say this.

Speaker 1 I'm taking my eight-year-old twin daughter. So my wife and I are taking our twin daughters over.
Like, they're super jacked about it.

Speaker 1 But we had two extra tickets and we put them on our platform to raise money for the hurricane relief, which we've lived through both of them.

Speaker 1 And like seeing the Tampa Bay area and the destruction from Helene, which a lot of people don't realize because the storm hit so much further north.

Speaker 1 And you hear about Carolinas and Tennessee and Georgia. They don't realize how bad the Tampa area flooded from Helene.

Speaker 1 And then obviously from Milton, you know, that was a direct path right through there. And it was like everybody everybody pretty much already had their lives out at the curb because it was flooded.

Speaker 1 And then this, you know, storm rolls through with high winds. And it's just, it's been pretty catastrophic for just that Bay Area.

Speaker 1 And I was like, look, we did so much for Minnesota when we were in Minnesota. And I get it.
I was here for like a cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 I played like five games for the Bucs, I think. I was in sweats a majority of that season.
But I'm like, this is home now. We want to do something to support this community.

Speaker 1 And we have these tickets that people are just dying to get. They're in a suite at the Caesar Superdome in New Orleans.
So we threw those up. And I mean, it was like $25,000 of charity right away.

Speaker 1 And like, she's not even associated with it. Yeah.
Like, they're not even promoting it. This is just people seeing it on the site and like, A, we want to support the hurricane relief.

Speaker 1 And B, like, the Swifties came out and supported big time. So I need the stoolies to dominate the Swifties here in the back.
And we got through the weekend.

Speaker 1 And then basically, the way our platform works works is we, most of the time, we partner with celebrities. So, you know, whether it be,

Speaker 1 we actually did something with the Four Play guys. So the Four Play guys sent a winner and a guest to the Ryder Cup when it was in Paris.

Speaker 1 And the way we do it is like we want to create those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities that most of the time are out of reach for diehard sports fans.

Speaker 1 Your diehard sports fans not spending $10,000 in a live auction to buy that trip.

Speaker 1 It's priced out of a majority of our fans who spend their hard-earned money on the game they can go to or the season tickets or whatever they can do to support their team.

Speaker 1 With us, you can support your favorite player, your favorite musician, your favorite actor for as little as $10.

Speaker 1 And it's like we do...

Speaker 1 donations directly to their nonprofit from $10 to $500,

Speaker 1 and then you have chances to win these once a year. Yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's a sweepstakes model in which, you know, for us, we have four co-founders who are to our core, you know, philanthropists, and it's about raising as much money as we possibly can for these other individuals' charities.

Speaker 1 So providing a platform.

Speaker 1 We don't go to anything, but let's do something with us.

Speaker 1 Let's do an auction where someone can watch NFL football with us on a Sunday. So come to the gambling cave.
I would love that. Let's do it with you guys.
We'll give fans the opportunity to do that.

Speaker 1 That would be a lot of fun. You pick the charity.
So you get to to pick the non-profit, and we'll get it up and going and get the stools. I'd love to have an opportunity to hang out with you guys.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. We'd be happy to do that.

Speaker 6 And then when the next Ryder Cup comes around, me and Big Cat were just talking about this. They're pricing out all the real golf fans here in America.

Speaker 6 So if you want to go up to Beth Page and watch the Ryder Cup, was it $750 a ticket?

Speaker 1 Crazy. I saw that sheet that came out with the ticket prices.

Speaker 6 Maybe we can do something like that and send a

Speaker 6 die-hard golf fan that's not able to afford it. We're in golf.

Speaker 1 It's crazy because in three years, we've raised, I think, like over $6 million for charity. We've worked with over 165 different nonprofits.

Speaker 1 And to me, that's one of the cool parts is like what we were able to do in Minneapolis with the Children's Hospital was amazing.

Speaker 1 And again, to serve those doctors, patients, families, nurses, it's great for that community.

Speaker 1 like the legacy that we were able to leave as a family in that small community is cool. That's awesome.
But now what Ultru allows us to do is impact organizations all across the country.

Speaker 1 And even, like, we worked with Sidney Crosby last year, and we're getting ready to launch again with Sid.

Speaker 1 His foundation's in Canada. It's like a youth camp in Canada that we fund for him through an experience to go to a Penguins game and like meet Sid and get a signed stick.

Speaker 1 And, you know, to your point, like, the diehard sports fans are often priced out of these once-in-a-lifetime experiences.

Speaker 1 And of the call it 170 winners that we've had over the last three years, it's almost interesting how good like fate is.

Speaker 1 And we were just two weeks ago, I was in LA for Arnold Schwarzenegger, had a poker tournament at his house to benefit after-school all-stars as his non-profit.

Speaker 1 And we call them rallies because it's a sweepstakes, but ultimately we're trying to get fans to rally behind these causes and these celebrities.

Speaker 1 And so we did a rally with Arnold where the winner got to go to Arnold's house and play in the poker tournament and go to the event.

Speaker 1 And it's like to buy a seat at that event, it was like 50 grand grand to have a spot at the poker event.

Speaker 1 And this woman who's a diehard Arnold fan with like an Arnold tattoo on her thigh won the opportunity to meet him at their house.

Speaker 1 And so to me, like, yes, we're raising money for all these great nonprofits.

Speaker 1 And like, that's a win in itself because what I've tried to create is almost like a completely different pool of charitable dollars.

Speaker 1 These little like 10, $25, $50 donations wouldn't be going to charity if you didn't have a reason to give them. Right.

Speaker 1 It would just be all of the events and the high-net worth donations and the corporate sponsors. Like all of that money that's always been going to charity will continue to go.

Speaker 1 How do we take that, call it billion-dollar market, and raise more money and add to it?

Speaker 1 But then the flip side is the winners.

Speaker 1 And when you tell these people that they won and they can't believe it,

Speaker 1 with the Minnesota Vikings Foundation over the summer, we gave away a brand new Ford F-150. Oh, hell yes.
Northland Ford dealers in Minnesota ponied up a brand new F-150. They donated to the charity.

Speaker 1 Vikings fans got to donate for a chance to win a new truck. And sure enough, the winner was like a local St.
Paul guy, had a Viking season ticket holder for 25 years. We get his address.

Speaker 1 Victor, literally the mascot and I roll up to his house, knock on the door. And like...

Speaker 1 This dude had a rusted out F-150 in his drive. Oh, that's perfect.
And it was like so cool. I mean, he just starts crying right away.

Speaker 1 He was like, I don't ever buy myself a new truck because I got my wife a new car. And he's like, I've been a season ticket holder for 25 years.
I love the Vikings.

Speaker 1 I'm like, let's go pick out your truck. Like, you give them the truck.
So the winner side is almost as cool as raising the money. That's amazing.

Speaker 6 I do have to follow up since you alluded to the love boat, Freddie Smoot, and the love cruise that you guys had.

Speaker 2 This is before your time. It was.

Speaker 6 You weren't there. I think that was 2006.

Speaker 1 2006. I was still in high school.
But trust me, I lived on Lake Minnetonka. And like the first time we went out on Lake Minnetonka, it was brought to our attention immediately

Speaker 1 this is what happened don't do it yeah so what what stories were still in the building were there guys still from that team uh yeah i think the the funniest story and it really wasn't even from

Speaker 1 uh two stories i'll tell two stories uh first of which was a result of love boat and or love cruise whatever they called it and it was chad greenway who's like a dear friend of mine like was a mentor as soon as i got drafted to the vikings took me under his wing he was their first first-round draft pick that next year.

Speaker 1 And he's like, they 100% drafted me because I was like a clean-cut white guy from Iowa. And it was like, we got to clean up our image.
Like, we can't be having this love boat.

Speaker 1 So he swears that's why he got drafted by the Vikings. So that was a funny story from it.
And the other was like the team meeting that followed. You know, so it happens, like, it hits the news.

Speaker 1 Everybody gets called into the facility. The Wilf family had just bought the team.
Like, they just bought the team in 06.

Speaker 1 And so Mark and Ziggy are there and they're talking to the team. And

Speaker 1 Mark doesn't have much of an accent. Like Mark speaks,

Speaker 1 you know, they're from New Jersey, but you wouldn't know that Mark is foreign.

Speaker 1 So Ziggy, on the other hand, like still has a very thick accent. And the guy said that.

Speaker 1 You know, Ziggy was just like, you could tell he was so disappointed in everybody on the team. And he's kind of going through it.

Speaker 1 And he's like, you know, I just, and everybody in their mind's thinking like what's he gonna say like what's he gonna say that he's most disappointed about like was it the hookers on the boat or the drugs that were all over the place or like whatnot and

Speaker 1 he goes I just

Speaker 1 I can't understand how you would pee in someone's yard because like when the guys all got off the boat that's what got him busted

Speaker 1 someone was peeing in someone's backyard

Speaker 1 and that's like the police report was that someone was peeing in someone's backyard and it wasn't that there was a million million hookers getting off the boat. It was rugs everywhere.

Speaker 1 And they like, again, talking to Jim Kleinsaucer, who was a tight end when I got there as a rookie going into his 13th year. Jim would tell that story and he's just like, I was dying.

Speaker 1 He's like, you're thinking of what's the worst thing he could possibly say that this poor guy who just bought the team heard that one of our morons was doing on this boat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just can't believe you guys would pee in someone's yard. That was like the most disappointing thing.
That would have been sick if he was like, I just can't believe you guys didn't invite me.

Speaker 1 We just bought the team. We just spent all this money, and you guys didn't give us an invite.

Speaker 1 Well, Kyle, thanks so much, man, for coming by. Always great to see you.
And we will set it up. So we'll let everyone know when we get it set up and we'll do something fun for the Stoolies.

Speaker 1 And always great having you on, man. I appreciate you guys.
I can't believe it had been

Speaker 1 2016. I mean, I see you guys all the time.
Big cat, we hang out at Bahamas. Yeah, we went to Bahamas.
We had a dinner in the Bahamas. But yeah, I hadn't gotten on the show in a while.

Speaker 1 Just randomly checking into the hotel for our one vacation a year after Super Bowl. Me and my wife, and it was just Kyle standing there with his wife.
It's like, all right, let's go to dinner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were both at the exact same thing. It was like the season ended and we left the kids at home and went to the Bahamas to have our trip.
But yeah, no, I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 It's been awesome to be back. I tried to dust out my old big country t-shirt.
Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 6 I still have that somewhere. Yeah.

Speaker 1 One of the best t-shirts.

Speaker 1 A, it was like the soft cotton type t-shirt, but then just the fact that there's not a, aside from enjoying country music, like, yeah, there's not a country bone in my body.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we just put a nickname on you that didn't work. Big white guy with tattoos.
And it went, like, still to this day, I have people like, yo, big country. Like, what's up, man?

Speaker 1 You are from a country, though.

Speaker 1 I am from a country. And then, like,

Speaker 1 country is in my family. Like, my mom grew up on a dairy farm.
Like, it's in there, but I'm not.

Speaker 1 I was like soft grew up in Cincinnati who's next up maybe you can pass the nickname down maybe there's always one tight end in the NFL that's big country yeah well we could go through it I mean I Cole who was here earlier yeah Cole could be

Speaker 1 Cole could be a great big country and he just like I grew up in in the suburbs like the rich area of Chicago he's probably never spent a day in his life on a farm big country

Speaker 1 could be a good big country

Speaker 1 you want to get you want to pass it down to Cole we'll we'll we'll convene after this I think we've got to go through a more formal vetting process

Speaker 1 we're going to watch football tonight we'll we'll we'll figure it out. Yeah, so we'll definitely pass it on to someone that doesn't deserve it, much like I didn't deserve it either.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks so much, Kyle.
Appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is one of the toughest guys in the world.
It's Francis Nagano.

Speaker 1 He's with us right now via hologram, getting ready for his big fight, October 19th. It's the Battle of the Giants.
Naganu versus Ferreira goes down October 19th at 4 p.m. Eastern on ESPN Plus.

Speaker 1 Pay-per-view into Zone pay-per-view. Francis, first of all, thank you for joining us.
We are looking at you. It looks like you're in this room with us.

Speaker 1 I know you said you've never done a hologram before, but it's pretty damn cool from this end. So thank you for doing this.

Speaker 18 You're welcome. Thank you.
I mean, as I said, it feels a little uncomfortable. It's a little uncomfortable.
Like the holy hologram stuff.

Speaker 18 I never done that. I mean, at least not as an entity.
Yes. I have done a hologram, but not for an entity.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, it does look cool on our end.
It's going to come out cool for our fans. So let's talk about the fight.
October 19th. You're getting back in the octagon.
You are

Speaker 1 putting on the MMA gloves again.

Speaker 1 What's going through your head now that you've had like, you know, had a couple years off, switched to boxing, now back to this?

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you had to sharpen your skills and kind of relearn some things, or is it like getting on a bike and just riding it again?

Speaker 18 It's not like relearn something, but uh, it's like getting on the bike and riding it again. Obviously, like, after a while, uh, you kind of like question

Speaker 18 if you're gonna ride it as you used to, you know, as far as performance and stuff. But at the end of the day, the skill is still there.
Then it just takes

Speaker 18 a couple months to sharpen the skills, you know. Yeah.
So it's like right riding a bike, like

Speaker 18 going to the gym the first time, you worry like,

Speaker 18 am I even going to remember how this work? Like, did I forget something? And then you get in the gym, you get on the mat, you find yourself in a situation then it just feels like you were there

Speaker 13 two days ago. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Do you feel do you feel like boxing made you a better MMA fighter?

Speaker 18 I think both are very

Speaker 18 different sport. They are very

Speaker 18 completely different because, like,

Speaker 18 even if you perform your boxing, like the training that you do for boxing, the position,

Speaker 18 the guard, and everything is not what are there for MMA. But you have to be very careful of your posture after coming from boxing to MMA.

Speaker 18 Because if you stand, like you're standing in boxing in MMA with a giving an opportunity to a guy to kick your legs, uh, to take you down, and all the stuff is not good at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I could imagine. Like, have you noticed yourself doing that in training where you catch yourself every now and then doing like a boxing stance or acting like you're in boxing?

Speaker 1 So, that doesn't happen when you're training and getting ready for this fight.

Speaker 18 No, no, no, it's not like I've been doing boxing for I don't know, for 10 years, and now I have a body motor metabolism for it. Like, no, yeah, I've been doing MMA mostly, so going back into MMA

Speaker 18 is easier. I mean, what would be complicated would be like to come to do boxing from MMA after being doing MMA for such a long time, you know.
But

Speaker 18 again, I was always able to distinguish both of them, make the difference between

Speaker 18 boxing and MMA.

Speaker 6 And you said that the punches are harder in MMA, right? In UFC?

Speaker 18 I mean,

Speaker 18 technically, yes. I mean, in MMA, remember, it's four ounce arms closed.

Speaker 18 With some time, like with

Speaker 18 your bandicoots,

Speaker 18 some of your necklace knocked

Speaker 18 open.

Speaker 18 So sometimes you get caught by that. That's why you will find a lot of injury in MMA.
In MMA, knee and elbow are allowed. And I think those are

Speaker 1 more...

Speaker 1 Brutal. Yeah.
Yeah. How, how, this is a dumb question for you.
How awesome does it feel when you connect with a punch and knock someone out?

Speaker 1 That's got to feel like the coolest feeling in the world where you're like man like i i could never knock anyone out i'm i'm a pussy but uh for you like hitting someone perfect is it just an incredible feeling like adrenaline rush i think winning is an incredible feeling like um

Speaker 18 you know like right in the action with the adrenaline and everything when you're fighting you don't think about like oh i knock this guy out like the punches you know you just think about the overall result right which is the what matters most because like sometimes during the fight you can really feel like you connect with someone and then he doesn't uh go down right

Speaker 18 and sometimes somebody goes down like uh and you're even like wondering why he's down like if he slipped because you didn't feel like you truly connect but yet you clip him in some way yeah what's the most satisfying way to win i have my own answer uh but i haven't fought very much ufc so maybe you have a different one than i do well the most satisfying satisfying way uh to win is to have your hand raised.

Speaker 18 That's the most. If you're asking about the most, is to have your hand raised.

Speaker 18 And then it depends on the playout, you know, on how the fight plays out.

Speaker 18 I think sometimes you go to a tough battle and then you come back, you win the fight, and then it's more satisfying, you know, than when you just get in the fight and get a knockout.

Speaker 18 That seems like, of course, you're fresh, you know, you are not hurt.

Speaker 6 but he can be he can be you like a lucky shot yeah yeah i think the i think the best way at least as a spectator is a liver shot when you connect on a body shot and then like two seconds later they they collapse to the ground that's my favorite one to watch oh okay that's cool yeah i i also the ufc like a guillotine choke you've done that before you submitted someone with a guillotine choke have you uh

Speaker 1 in training and everything have you ever tapped i've never tapped personally Have you ever tapped? Yes. Oh, wow.
I have done. Why? I would never tap.
Well, I think, no.

Speaker 18 Why? Because maybe that's why you are not proficient. No, I've.
And I think

Speaker 18 when you have somebody in the gym that will not tap, that's not good for training. He's putting...
people at risk. He's putting his self-address and you at risk.

Speaker 18 Because like, I think the confusion here is to understand like the purpose of training of why you're there.

Speaker 18 Sometimes tapping is like, okay,

Speaker 18 I made a mistake.

Speaker 18 You are there to learn. You are not there to prove anything.
And I think tapping is not like a sign of weakness. It's like noticing that, yes, you did some mistake.

Speaker 18 And then at that point, that's maybe raise your awareness of what you did.

Speaker 18 for not to do it again, you know, of to learn from it instead of like being there and playing tough yes maybe you might play tough in the gym and don't have to tap and then you get in the fight and then uh find yourself passing out yeah yeah i mean that's a bit he wouldn't he wouldn't then he wouldn't be productive yeah uh your training wouldn't be productive just because of your ego but if you make your training productive you're trying to understand you are not there to prove to people you know like i always say like training for me is just exercising i don't really consider I'm there to learn.

Speaker 18 Like, in fact, for the most,

Speaker 18 most time, like when I have partners who I think they are not in my level, or even if they are at my level, I want to put my arm, like to get myself in a difficult situation and see how I can overcome that situation.

Speaker 18 You know, I like to get someone on my back.

Speaker 18 I want to like to get some, get down and get someone on top of me, stuff like that.

Speaker 18 You know, learn understand like uh the keys of uh getting out of those difficult situations then i learn but if i stand up i'm sure this guy will not take me down uh right so i'd rather just lay down for him make things easy and so he helped me walking maybe because this guy is a jujusu guy but he's not the wrestler uh he does he's not strong enough to take me down right So it's for what I want.

Speaker 18 You know, I put myself in the position to learn. Then I find myself in the ground, getting some time have to tap because he's an expert in jujitsu.
In fact, that's why I get him there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 18 To help me understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's a, that actually now I think I will tap because Francis Nagano, one of the toughest guys in the world, says it's okay to tap.

Speaker 6 I'm not going to tap because I'm never going to fight Francis Nagano. Yeah.
That's my one rule. I've always said that my entire life.
If I ever meet you, I'm not going to fight you.

Speaker 6 You can try all you want, but I'm not going to punch you. When you're training for this fight,

Speaker 6 are you trying to find somebody that mimics the style of your opponent? Do you have somebody that you hand-select because you think that it matches up with what your opponent's going to do?

Speaker 18 Of course.

Speaker 18 You always do that. How does always

Speaker 18 match up? Also, like,

Speaker 18 it's not only about your opponent, it's also about your strategy. Like, what is the strategy that you want to implement in the fight? What's your game plan?

Speaker 18 How do you think you should approach the fight? You know, and also your sparring partner could be

Speaker 18 picked up into that. You know, like, for example,

Speaker 18 you want to strike and then you better have a good training sparring partner. You want to wrestle, you better have a

Speaker 18 sparring, a good wrestler as a sparring partner to get you work those muscles congestion because otherwise you will get in the fight and in the first action, like...

Speaker 18 you feel the congestion in your hands and blood flow and everything. You can't move anything.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 It might be a a dumb question, but do you ever get scared?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 18 I would say nervous,

Speaker 18 yes,

Speaker 18 just as nervous as you don't want to lose

Speaker 18 as nervous as when, uh, I don't know, like when a musician is going to a scene, uh, they are

Speaker 18 nervous, you know. I wouldn't say like scared because you kind of like tell yourself that at the end of the day, what can possibly happen? The worst is that I get hit in the face, you know.

Speaker 18 And uh, at this point, I'm not

Speaker 18 I'm not into like getting really like considered that. I don't want to get hit in the face, but it won't be a drama.
It's not exactly like what it is.

Speaker 18 It's not exactly what will came, you know? So. it's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so your story is incredible. You obviously, you grew up in Cameroon in poverty.
You're working in a quarry, moved to France.

Speaker 1 Have you, do you have moments where you sit back, you're like, I can't believe my life and how i was able to make it through all this adversity and and and basically given no chance to get to where you are right now to being one of the best fighters in the world well yes there are moments like that i mean i still do i

Speaker 18 like uh when i think uh

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 18 where i came from when i go where i came from uh to see where i am today it's still kind of like unbelievable even though it's believable because you have to believe in order to make it um

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah i mean it's a great story it's so cool i don't

Speaker 18 yeah but you know uh the thing is that i don't really like uh just sit down and like count it because i think what uh

Speaker 18 I'm focused about right now is like how far can I go until I stop you know because like where I am today is not where I was yesterday and then my purpose is to be somewhere else tomorrow and the day after and the day after until all this end.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 I look, yes, of course, I look back for a reference, but

Speaker 18 I focus forward.

Speaker 1 Do you do you have a moment when you were growing up or maybe when you moved to France where you had a moment where you're like, I think I might be, I think I might have a special talent here.

Speaker 1 Like there's something, or maybe someone told you it and you realize for the first time. Because I love those those stories of

Speaker 1 incredible athletes having that first light bulb moment where you're like, oh, this, this, I might have something here that's different than everyone else.

Speaker 18 My light bulbs, my light bulbs wasn't my talent.

Speaker 18 In fact, I didn't know. I didn't

Speaker 18 see, I didn't go into a combat sport gym, into a boxing gym until I was 22 years old. That's crazy.

Speaker 18 But yet, in my entire life, I believe in this. I think my light ball was was

Speaker 18 faith, you know, determination in order to do what I do. And let's be honest right here.
I don't think I'm the most skilled guy. I don't think I'm the most talented guy.
In fact,

Speaker 18 I think talent is very important, but I think talent doesn't make you a champion. Talent doesn't make you put you in the top of the game.

Speaker 18 Like, there's only one thing is your dedication, your determination, and your hard work. Because the most talented talented people, for some reason,

Speaker 18 they are not always in top of the game.

Speaker 18 They might maintain play, use talent to get to the mirror and stuck there.

Speaker 18 But to get on top of the game, you need way more than talent, and which is something that a lot of people don't have, and they never get in that position. Talent doesn't get you here.
So I was lucky.

Speaker 18 I mean, in fact, I think

Speaker 18 in some way, I would say

Speaker 18 it's a luck not to have too much talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm very interesting. I'm a very, very lucky.

Speaker 18 Because when you have talent, you rely on that talent, you trust that talent, and then you underlook the most important side of it, which is like the hard work, which is like your motivation, your determination, and all those stuff.

Speaker 18 You underline them, and then that play back on you.

Speaker 18 Even at school, you will see talented genius. They never do their homework, they don't do stuff they everything come to them and they just take it as a grounded you know even though they are maybe

Speaker 18 uh have the uh first note in the class they don't study yeah right but they get to the point that they need to study but since they never used to study it's hot for them but you the guy that was always in the mirror that was always granning you know started he's there already he has that core and that's what drive him uh somewhere more than time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a great point. Like, knowing that you're not the most talented person

Speaker 1 can be a huge asset because you know you have to outwork the most talented person that you see that has it, you know, come to them naturally.

Speaker 1 What was the point, though, when you were growing up that you realized that you were super, super strong? I mean,

Speaker 18 in my family, we used to always be strong. We had a reputation of being strong, even like me,

Speaker 1 as

Speaker 18 as far as I can remember, my dad and my uncle, they was like, they were talking about them, like the strongest guy in the village around and stuff.

Speaker 18 So I knew I was strong, but was

Speaker 18 strong, is it enough? Is it enough to do whatever you want to do that you don't know even where to do it, where to start it? That was the problem.

Speaker 18 The problem wasn't about strength. Yes, you're strong, but we are talking about a discipline that you have to practice.

Speaker 18 You have have to learn and i haven't learned yet so how come would i be uh would that be um

Speaker 18 useful to me so when you're talking when you talk about determination and and how much you put in how much work you put in what does that look like in your world like how how often are you training what is what is your determination getting you determination uh it's not just about like uh the training it doesn't come about training let me tell you something i believe in this sport and in what i'm doing in in where I am now,

Speaker 18 10 years before the first time stepping in the gym.

Speaker 18 You know, that faith is also a part of it. I think you need faith first, and then you have the determination, and

Speaker 18 then we will talk about hard work and everything. But you need to believe in it at first because you are not determined about something that you don't believe.

Speaker 18 It's a waste. It's first about like your faith to the consistent, to have a consistent faith, you know, stuff like that.
Those are more important. Interesting.

Speaker 18 So then you go to that that that's what get you into the gym. That's what get you to believe into something that self-believing, that faith that you have in you and your

Speaker 18 capability of achieving something. That's what get you into that.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And I read that, and again, it's an incredible story that you have when you're growing up you had to walk six miles to school.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 18 every day. Yeah, it was six miles one way.

Speaker 6 Six miles. So what time would you have to wake up in the morning for that?

Speaker 18 I used to wake up around like 5.30, 6 when I was living at our house that I was living because the school was at

Speaker 18 6 miles.

Speaker 18 So I would count like, we will count like two hours to walk. I mean, I'm saying six miles.
I don't know exactly. I would say around that.
But

Speaker 6 that's such a long way to go to school. Like when I would wake up in the morning for school, I wouldn't want to even get out of my bed.
I'd be like, no, the kitchen's too far away.

Speaker 6 I want to walk all the way to get breakfast. You're walking six miles.

Speaker 18 Yeah, but

Speaker 18 that's just human nature. You know, like I'm walking six miles, then I think it's far.
But the other kids

Speaker 18 are walking four miles. Someone are walking two.
two, someone are walking one, but even those who walk one think it's far.

Speaker 18 And even if I was one mile away from school, I would have think the same thing.

Speaker 18 It's just like human nature. But when you don't have an option, then you just

Speaker 18 get settled to what you have. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can I ask you a random question? A video that I saw last year that was, I mean, it's just... It's a hilarious video.
The time you accidentally pushed on a pole door and broke and shattered the door.

Speaker 1 Can you, what did the, what did the shop, did you see this video?

Speaker 6 I haven't seen this one yet.

Speaker 1 Francis goes up to like, it looks like a 7-Eleven basically, and he was pushing on a pole door and he just shatters the door. Didn't even look like you pushed it hard.

Speaker 1 What did the shop owner say? You paid for the door.

Speaker 1 You're a great guy, but what did the shop owner say when he realized it was you and it wasn't just like, oh, someone had broken his door, you know, on purpose?

Speaker 18 Well, I think what's happened is that you didn't follow back on that video.

Speaker 18 Otherwise, you wouldn't find out that he was a uh he was a prank he was just something that we said oh that was a prank oh damn we got that makes sense you're contributing to fake news friend that was fake news that was a good prank it wasn't a fake it wasn't a fake news let's just say it was a little action you know like watch movie sometime

Speaker 6 i feel like an idiot now uh well yeah i'm seeing this video right i thought i thought it was real for a second yeah this is it's a well-done fake news thing that's a very

Speaker 18 lot of people thought that that that was the point.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 18 To make it feel real. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was the point.

Speaker 6 You should do that in real life, though. You should do that to a door.
Just shatter it and make it make reality.

Speaker 18 Well, if every door that I touch is going to

Speaker 18 break it, I think I will go broke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. You got to pay for everything.
Either that or pay for doors.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Or people see you coming and they walk out and they open the door for you.

Speaker 6 You'll never have to walk through another door in your life.

Speaker 18 No. Or people just said it.
Just said it fake doors, so you're going to keep paying.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
One of my favorite questions to ask fighters: how's camp going?

Speaker 1 How has this camp been? It's been a good camp, tough camp.

Speaker 1 How, like, you know, in terms of like diet, exercise, everything, how's camp going? It's going well. Okay.

Speaker 18 I mean,

Speaker 18 tough camp, I think

Speaker 18 a camp has to be tough.

Speaker 18 So, yeah,

Speaker 18 tough on your body, tough on everything.

Speaker 18 you know, tough on your mental because like you put yourself in a different condition, you know,

Speaker 18 get

Speaker 1 in a

Speaker 18 very hard discipline and stuff, and everything. You're always tough, but you know, it's

Speaker 18 the part of the game. Yeah,

Speaker 18 it's a process.

Speaker 6 How fun is it to get to put the weight back on after a weigh-in?

Speaker 18 Well, I don't have that much weight to put in, you know, like I don't deal with

Speaker 18 weight loss so much. So, at least for that, I'm happy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're good. You're good?

Speaker 18 Yeah, I managed to lose amount of

Speaker 18 to lose weight during my calm because I might have like what, maybe

Speaker 18 five to t ten pounds,

Speaker 18 which is not too much. And over

Speaker 18 a couple weeks of training, you you're almost there.

Speaker 18 And if at the end you you have something, it's like two pounds, which is nothing.

Speaker 6 Yeah, do you have a strategy at the weigh-in for how to get inside your opponent's head? Do you do you try to play mind games? Uh

Speaker 18 No.

Speaker 18 I don't have that because

Speaker 18 it's not my game, but

Speaker 18 because we play physical games.

Speaker 18 And what happen if the guy

Speaker 18 is not receptive to your game, if he's strong enough for you not to penetrate into his mind, then he penetrates into yours.

Speaker 18 Because you think you are into somebody's mind while you are not, then in fact, who is in who mind that's a good point i also think that you just showing up is more than enough uh just like you physically standing there is more than enough to penetrate into someone's mind you don't have to say anything yeah i think that's happened sometimes you know there is um

Speaker 18 you know like uh behind our um keyboard sometime we can type stuff talk a lot of shit and then you get into a weigh-in sometime with somebody looks look at him and you can see in his eye like what the fuck do i just put myself into you know but you're like bro it's late now it's going down yeah yeah um you have you have to you have to back your ward yeah your ward uh all right so i got a couple last questions everyone again uh battle of the giants toganu versus ferreira goes down saturday october 19th at 4 p.m eastern espm plus pay-per-view and disone uh pay-per-view do you want to give us a prediction for the fight some prediction i think the best prediction is me going out with my hand raised okay okay okay i like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like that.
And then you go ahead, PFT.

Speaker 6 I was going to say, do you have any plans on going back to boxing after this?

Speaker 18 Yeah, of course. That's what I just said earlier.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 18 You're going to go back.

Speaker 18 I think I have, yeah, I have some copper fight, some copper boxing.

Speaker 1 All right. So I had one last question.
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Speaker 1 I got to ask. Is that a question? Yeah, well, that was the lead up to the question.

Speaker 1 I gotta ask,

Speaker 1 I am a huge, huge jackass fan. What was it like hanging out with those guys and doing a video with them and punching them? Because I just love jackass from 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 So was that, what was it like being with those guys and around those guys?

Speaker 18 He was not

Speaker 1 good.

Speaker 18 Like, for real, like, when I get there, I thought he was a movie star that you're going to pretend and do something, and there might use special effects.

Speaker 18 So you just say, No, you're gonna hit for real. I'm like, really?

Speaker 18 They say yes. So I turn around and I asked my team that do we have some waiver here that is signed that I'm not going to be sued from hurting somebody from this,

Speaker 7 you know.

Speaker 18 And uh, they say, No, it's good. We always do everything, it's authentic, we don't pretend here.

Speaker 18 And I'm like, okay,

Speaker 18 and then uh, yes, I have to hit this guy in the nuts, and um

Speaker 18 and i was so i was so worried i was so stressed that i couldn't hit properly at the first at first and then i'm like no bro just no real just not how you hit like you're gonna start again and the guy is there screaming like ah i'm like so i'm gonna do it again i'm like yes for real

Speaker 18 i'm like okay well

Speaker 18 if we're here let's do it then

Speaker 1 it's incredible i mean that's those guys are the the best.

Speaker 1 When you were on set with them, did they try to prank you at all? No. Okay.
That was smart of them.

Speaker 1 That was smart of them to leave you alone because

Speaker 1 they usually try to fuck with everyone who goes on set.

Speaker 18 No, like, I mean, I think that was their way to fuck with me because I didn't know it was real. I was going to do it for real.
Yeah. Like, I put an 18-ounce glove.

Speaker 18 and they say you're going to hit as hard as you can.

Speaker 18 I'm like, what happened if it's explode?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, like,

Speaker 18 how come, what, how come at which moment a human being started thinking of such a thing?

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's crazy. I don't think that

Speaker 6 as a fighter, you've trained to a point where you feel comfortable just winding up and hitting a guy in the dick, right?

Speaker 18 No, no, you don't.

Speaker 6 That's never something that you should practice.

Speaker 1 Definitely not. Definitely not.
Well,

Speaker 1 Francis, thank you so much. We'll be watching October 19th, 4 p.m.
Eastern.

Speaker 1 You know, ESPN plus pay-per-view to zone.

Speaker 1 Appreciate your time. I know it was a little, the hologram, it's crazy, but it was very cool on our end.
Pay-per-view hologram. Yeah, you look great.

Speaker 18 Okay, thank you guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got Firefest of the week.
Henry, Danny, what's up? What's up?

Speaker 8 Not much. What's up with you?

Speaker 6 JC? You're trying to get me

Speaker 1 in a bit.

Speaker 6 Did you do updog to you? Yeah, you did update. Did you get up dogged?

Speaker 1 Firefest sounds like he had a good week.

Speaker 8 Yeah, not much.

Speaker 6 He just answered, what's up with you?

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 15 Not much.

Speaker 1 What's up with you?

Speaker 1 You're looking at it.

Speaker 1 That's cool. All right.

Speaker 8 Yeah, there was really a

Speaker 1 pretty basic week.

Speaker 8 This is like the lamest Fire Fest of all time. I don't even know if I should say it.

Speaker 1 Say it.

Speaker 8 Alright, we had an event at the office last night. Did not drink.
There was an espresso martini stellar blue station. I got a regular espresso at like six o'clock.
Got home. Was tired.
Got into bed.

Speaker 8 Wide awake. Wired.
Stayed up till three. No big deal.

Speaker 2 New Stella Blue.

Speaker 1 No, new Stella Blue. We got Bully Beans.
Bully Beans.

Speaker 8 I think I got the

Speaker 8 bully beans because they worked. I was wired.

Speaker 1 And butter cookies back as well.

Speaker 6 So you just stayed up till 3 a.m.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I just watched Queen's Gambit.

Speaker 1 Ah, that's a good show. Had you seen it before? Yeah.

Speaker 8 I was like, oh, this was a good show when I watched it the first time. And then I forgot the whole premise.
Well, embarrassing story. This is a Fire Fest, a retroactive Fire Fest.
Okay.

Speaker 8 First time I watched that show, I was like, this show's really good. Avoided the internet, kind of.
And then once it ended, I went to look up Wikipedia. Like, what a crazy story.
That's just not true.

Speaker 6 You thought it was based on a true story? Shit. Because surely they wouldn't make a TV show about chess unless it was like a real story.
Yeah, 100% fact.

Speaker 1 But it is a great, great show. Yeah, it is.
yeah. Oh, I'm sorry you didn't sleep.

Speaker 16 Did you sleep in?

Speaker 8 No, I got up, got up, went to the gym, 8 o'clock.

Speaker 1 Friday, you have Friday off.

Speaker 15 No, I'll be here for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how long?

Speaker 1 Why is Friday your last day of golf?

Speaker 8 It's my last planned day. Oh,

Speaker 1 no, but

Speaker 8 I don't see, like, I wouldn't be surprised if it is. I haven't golfed in the last three weeks.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 8 I wouldn't be surprised if this is it. Damn.

Speaker 6 That's how long it takes to break a habit, right?

Speaker 6 Is it 21 days? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you do a little

Speaker 1 putting your clubs away for the winter video for us? Yeah. See you again.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Do that for us.

Speaker 6 Don't put them all away. Like, you never know.

Speaker 8 Yeah, well, it'll be me putting them away in the simulator.

Speaker 6 It's going to be really nice next week, right?

Speaker 1 Is it? I think so. I think it is.
But the weekdays, the weekly days.

Speaker 11 That's how fast it took for Hank.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. It's only.
It's the weekdays you can go. No, I can't.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 Hank, it's going to be 74 Sunday, 75 on Monday, 70 Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're back. I'm a weekend golfer.
You're back. Sunday.

Speaker 6 Sunday's a weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Why is it not? PFT.

Speaker 6 Are we going to get into the weekend debate again?

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's a weekend in theory, but I'll be here for 14 hours.

Speaker 6 What about the morning?

Speaker 1 Go early.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT.

Speaker 6 A couple fire fests. First is I got the car back, so I guess it's a pre-fire fest.
Oh, yeah. It's a pre-fire fest.

Speaker 6 I drove it all the way from the repair shop, which is about an hour and 15 minutes away. So I think it's probably out of gas right now.
So we'll see if it starts up after I have to leave to get it.

Speaker 8 Hour and 15 minutes

Speaker 1 backroads?

Speaker 6 Yeah, backroads. Did not take the highway on the way back.
I learned my lesson. The other Fire Fest also has to deal with last night.

Speaker 6 So we had a big event at the office here, and our good friend Jersey Jerry got very dressed up. Yes.
He put on a suit. He was looking to close some deals.

Speaker 6 In fact, he came up to me and he said, PFT, what are you looking to do today?

Speaker 6 Are you looking to close deals for part of my take? Are you looking to close deals, you know, personally? I was like, I'm just going to talk to people and like meet advertisers.

Speaker 6 And so he asked me that question, I think, for a reason.

Speaker 6 But we were hanging out, myself, chaps, Donnie, and we had just talked to Jersey Jerry. And then we came up with an idea for a little prank under good friend Jersey Jerry.
Yep.

Speaker 6 Which was we tried to find an advertiser that was walking around that was cool, that was a listener, fan of the show, fan of Barstool, and to to get them to go up to jersey jerry and tell jerry that they were from pfizer and they wanted to do an advertisement with jersey jerry

Speaker 6 obviously jersey jerry lib of the year yep uh so loves pfizer loves pfizer and he whenever he sees john legend or travis kelsey on tv he just he just turns bright red and starts sweating he's like fuck these guys fuck these guys yep so um we found a couple people that were into playing along with this.

Speaker 6 They went up to Jerry and they gave Jerry a pitch that they wanted to personally sponsor Jerry for, I think, $700,000.

Speaker 6 And Jerry immediately said yes and went running across the room to get a salesperson to close the deal. So that was funny.
Jerry got upset about it. I think he blamed you.
I think he went over.

Speaker 1 He, PFT, he made me swear on my kid's life that I didn't set him up, which I was happily. I had no idea you guys were doing this.
I was aware because Max told me afterwards.

Speaker 1 So I was like, yeah, I'll swear on my kid's life. I literally did not set you up.
It was someone else.

Speaker 2 But yeah, he was like, swear on your kid's life.

Speaker 16 Then he came up to me hot.

Speaker 1 You were the last person he expected it was. He thought when it wasn't, when he knew it wasn't you, he came up to me.

Speaker 1 He almost like put me, put me in like a chokehold. Yeah.
Couldn't reach your neck.

Speaker 6 So then I come to find out that there actually were two people from Pfizer that were walking around last night.

Speaker 6 So I, then that screwed me all up because I'm like, what if they were actually trying to do a deal with Jerry? Right. And they go up to Jerry and they try to close the deal.

Speaker 6 Jerry's, well, he'll like flip them off and run away. Yeah.
So Jerry's very, very upset at a lot of people. We do have video footage of the conversation happening.

Speaker 6 Jerry has said that he does not, he does not consent to the video. I don't know what that means.
It was just on the security camera.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 But Jerry says he doesn't consent. All right, he doesn't consent.
So I don't know. Are we allowed to put that out? We'll just blur his face out.

Speaker 7 We can blur Jerry's face out.

Speaker 1 It could be blur out his tattoos. Yeah, blur out Jerry's face.

Speaker 6 It could be anybody. But yeah, I think we do have security footage of it.
But Jerry's upset. And

Speaker 6 there's a chance that we accidentally ruined a possible actual deal.

Speaker 1 But he would have done the deal with Pfizer. Oh, he agreed to it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he agreed to it immediately. Yeah.
Immediately. You can see

Speaker 6 in the video, you can see they're just like making pleasantries, and then you can see the exact second where dollars and cents get mentioned. Okay, so

Speaker 1 we'll blur out Jerry's face in the Jerry video. Yeah, yeah, but it's and we'll title it Jerry Agreeing to a deal with Pfizer.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 6 It could be anybody, though.

Speaker 1 It could be anyone. All right, my Firefest is I've been betrayed by someone in this room.

Speaker 1 This room? Not this room, this room and this studio.

Speaker 1 I've been betrayed by someone in this room in this studio. Pug.
Some memes. Nope.

Speaker 1 That guy. Staring me right now.
So we have a lot of people working here. I love my job.
I love barstool sports. Oh.

Speaker 1 One of the parts of barstool sports, and I understand it, Pietzi and I are going to turn 40 soon. We have hired some younger people.

Speaker 1 And part of the younger people crew is a couple younger girls that terrorize me by putting them putting me in their tick tocks and i feel so fucking old and they say shit like hey are you going to go to the john summit concert and i'm like what the fuck are you talking about

Speaker 1 but ella who i like uh is an indiana grad and she is going to uh

Speaker 1 we're doing we're doing a show uh college football show come out to the college football show this is great 10 30 in the morning on saturday we'll be there uh she's an indiana grad she's going to the game and she's trying to get me to go to kilroy's after the the game.

Speaker 1 I explained to Ella. You should go.
I explained to Ella as clearly as I could that I will be, by the time the ball gets kicked off, I will most likely be back home in Chicago.

Speaker 6 We went to Kilroy's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kilroy's great. It's nothing against Kilroys, but it's everything about the fact that I'm 39 and have three kids, and I work non-stop, and I don't have time to go to - I would love nothing more.

Speaker 1 I would love nothing more than to spend an afternoon in Kilroy's getting shit-faced. I believe me, that would be great.

Speaker 6 It's also a chance. It's not a place place for people in their upper 30s.
Because we went there a couple years ago and we went upstairs and I think we were up there for like maybe 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 It's an awesome bar. I had a blast.
It's a great place. It's a great place.
Don't get me wrong. I love the people at Kilroy's.
We did a t-shirt deal with Kilroy's 10 years ago for the black.

Speaker 1 I love Kilroy's. It has nothing to do with Kilroy's.
It has to do with the fact that I'm old and I can't.

Speaker 1 Continue with the. Yeah, yeah, I'm getting back to it.
So I told Ella this. I said, I'm not going to Kilroy's.

Speaker 2 It's just not happening.

Speaker 1 I appreciate the offer. I love Kilroys.
Not going to happen. I then got a text from Ella.
She was like, hey, Max gave me your phone number. Can we set up

Speaker 1 a deal?

Speaker 1 Hey, babe cat, it's Ella. Max gave me your number.
Headed to IU right now. Since you decided to bring your show to my alma mater on the grand week, return my grand weekend return.

Speaker 1 I would like to offer you my Kilroy's tab for my game day table if IU wins. So I have to pay her tab if IU wins.

Speaker 1 that's right oh no I get the tab I get the fully expensed tab that's right table fully expensed oh no wait on you if I you go seven and oh what the hell is this deal so I have to pay her if I you wins so she's making an offer to you her her bet is you have to pay for my drinks if we win either way she shouldn't have my number text me about Kilroy's who did that

Speaker 1 you know who said who's who did it As we were walking out, she went up to Hank and Hank was like, yeah, just say it was Max that gave you that. Oh, you fucker.
You fucker.

Speaker 1 Well, no she was like what a plaque that was that's like I saw where that guy would say Max the entire time I did say whatever I don't care yeah oh all right well I was betrayed

Speaker 8 I was I mean she she was like basically uh trying to figure out a way like asking me like how how can I help get this table paid for and there was a bunch of people just joking around and I was like oh just I I actually first said go ask big cat if you can use his card for the weekend which obviously was a joke.

Speaker 8 And then she was like, oh, do you think I should text him? I was like, yeah, text him. Tell him Max told you.

Speaker 1 Well, I just replied to her because I hadn't replied to her. I said, I respectfully decline.
Thank you for the consideration.

Speaker 1 These girls just terrorize me because they're just young and they just know shit that I don't know and they just say words to me that I don't know.

Speaker 6 What was the question they asked you?

Speaker 1 Are you going to go see John Summit?

Speaker 6 Is that like a, is that

Speaker 1 he's next up DJ?

Speaker 16 No, he's already there.

Speaker 1 He's already

Speaker 1 there.

Speaker 6 Because when I heard that, I thought, is John Summit, is that code for like meet in the bathroom?

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 1 Our conversation was.

Speaker 1 This is how our conversation went. No, this is how our conversation went.
They said, are you going to go see John Summit this week? And I said, who? And they said, he's the best DJ in the world.

Speaker 1 And I said, what happened to Diplo? And then they laughed in my face.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 1 That's exactly how it went down. What about Shaq? Shaq's a good DJ.
Yeah. So, Dr.
Hank.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, you're like the patriarch of this office. I think it's good for employees to have your number.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I needed. That's a good point.

Speaker 6 I needed that.

Speaker 1 She's going to FaceTime me from kilroy's and that's gonna be so awesome i'm gonna really enjoy that

Speaker 1 and i it's nothing against ella she's sounds like you're mad no she's no you she's 20

Speaker 1 she's 23 years old she should be doing exact she should be going to i you should be going to kilroy's having the time of her life she's done nothing wrong my you have enabled it my problem is there was no downside to this bet this wasn't even a bet it was just like hey if we win you're paying yeah and probably if i and they're seven-point favors what if they lose yeah i don't know Fired.

Speaker 8 Fired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's probably been so anxious. She probably woke up so anxious waiting for a text.
And then that's what she got. She's definitely freaking out about that text.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And oh, I'm going to say I respectfully pass. Thank you for your consideration, and I've fired Max for giving my number away.

Speaker 1 What is she going to say?

Speaker 1 She's going to snitch? We're going to do a test for her.

Speaker 6 That is a good test. Yeah.

Speaker 6 If she tells the truth, will you pay for the bar tab?

Speaker 1 This will be be a good test. We'll see.

Speaker 8 Yeah, then she's fired. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. She's not fired.
She does a good job. And Hannah terrorizes me as well, but I got her back because Chaps does his videos and she didn't know where France was.
Neither did Max. I was there.

Speaker 14 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 I had to watch it live, though. It was great.

Speaker 6 Max, you don't know where France is?

Speaker 1 Max, you were in France. I know, and people keep saying that to me.
Because when you were on that live stream,

Speaker 6 I was like, I see Paris, I see France.

Speaker 1 Oh, so funny.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to start using. So I had multiple underwear companies coming up to me last night.
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to start weaponizing chaps. That's what I'll do.

Speaker 1 Because every time they put me in a TikTok and I don't understand a trend, I'm just going to be like, chaps, go up and ask them, like, what color is the sun? And that will be funny for me. So

Speaker 1 I got my ways. Yeah, I'm dumb.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm scared of the use of America. That shouldn't be a surprise.
Max, you got a Fire Fest?

Speaker 1 Underwear,

Speaker 1 we don't have to talk about it. Underwear? Underwear company? Underwear? No, I almost got evicted.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I moved into a new place. I've had autopay.
I've never actually.

Speaker 1 What? You had auto-pay? I've had autopay in my last two apartments, so I don't really think about it. And then

Speaker 1 I had to prorate it, so they said you can't set up autopay until your next thing.

Speaker 6 So, how many months late were you?

Speaker 1 No, I was. I was like five days, and then someone, I wasn't even home.
Someone, apparently, my girlfriend said that someone came knocking on the door like really like,

Speaker 1 and then just threw a piece of paper at her and just said, from your landlord. Oh, yeah.
And it was an eviction notice.

Speaker 1 Was this a situation like Stephen Che, when he bought, he got a new car and he thought he set up autopay, but he just paid one time for automobile pay?

Speaker 1 No, this, this was me just like forgetting that I wasn't on autopay anymore. But now I'm on a, I just, like, she, my girlfriend texts me.
She's like, you have to pay right now. I just got this.

Speaker 1 Paid an hour ago. What's up with the jacket today? You look good.
Everyone keeps asking me this. I mean, that's a jacket.
But you know what? We were saying this the other day.

Speaker 1 This is like the biggest fashion police

Speaker 1 building in the world. No, the culture we've created at Barcelona Sports, which I welcome, is that if you try to better yourself even a little bit, you get shamed to hell.

Speaker 2 But that's how it should be. I'm going to start with the best.

Speaker 1 We all need to stay exactly where we are. No, I'm wearing no bettering.

Speaker 1 This is the only place in the world where you can show up to work wearing a t-shirt and jeans and everyone would be like, whoa, do you have a date tonight, dude? Yeah, what if you have t-shirts?

Speaker 1 Has a button down. I'm like, who died?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Last week I came and I wore a polo shirt and then I was wearing like just jeans and Mad Dog was like, look at you.

Speaker 6 That's the meanest look at you I've ever gotten.

Speaker 1 I wore a flannel the other day and KB was like, why are you trying so hard? Yeah. If I have a button.
Jerry said

Speaker 1 that exact same thing to me tonight. He said, why are you trying?

Speaker 6 It's as toxic of a culture as you can get.

Speaker 1 I'm going to look nice as tomorrow I might. No.
But it's actually, the nice part about it is equal opportunity because anyone who tries to wear anything nice gets shamed instantly across the board.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 We should do a dress-up nice week.

Speaker 6 Built for comfort, not for speed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I had to wear jeans yesterday.
It was sucked. I'm a jogger's guy now.
Through and through. All right.

Speaker 2 Numbers. Three.

Speaker 1 11.

Speaker 6 5.

Speaker 1 99. 17.

Speaker 8 What?

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Shit! Can't do that. Who said what?

Speaker 1 Pug.

Speaker 1 You can't do that.

Speaker 1 Big ass started it.

Speaker 18 99.

Speaker 1 I did start I like this.

Speaker 6 It's a desperation move. 97.

Speaker 1 Oh, 99 actually came up yesterday.

Speaker 1 One of the advertisers wanted one of the pick a number, and 99 came up.

Speaker 1 Six.

Speaker 6 Love you guys.