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It is week six in the NFL. We're going to talk about every game from Sunday.
We had some blowouts. Scoring might be back.

Speaker 1 We might get some coaches fired. We also have a weird coaching situation in Philadelphia that we're going to talk about.

Speaker 1 Great Monday pod for everyone. We got Who's Back of the Week as well.
We're going to start with Fast's Two Minutes. Give it up for Chicago.

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Today is Monday, October 14th,

Speaker 1 week

Speaker 1 six.

Speaker 1 Happy Columbus Day to all those who celebrate. To all those who celebrate the discovery of the new world

Speaker 1 and the football that came with it. Our wonderful Italian Americans.

Speaker 1 We start in London town where the Jaguars tried to build Hadrian's Wall to contain Rome, but it wasn't enough after Cole Kamek Gala scored twice.

Speaker 1 And stop me if you've heard this before, but Jason Derulo has just fallen down the stairs again.

Speaker 1 Keenan Allen Wrench took a right angle for two touchdown scores, further bolting the screws on Doug Peterson's coaching casket. Doug, he's in a box, in a box, in a box.
Bears, 35, Jaguars, 16.

Speaker 1 Down to Balmer, Maryland, with a Battle of the Beltway. Don't say Gay Flowers embraced man-to-man coverage as a wide receiver went for 137 yards.

Speaker 1 Marky Mark Andrews committed some hate crimes against the Washington defense, as we were lucky the game wasn't a tie late. Truth or Derrick Henry went striking as the Ravens rolled to another victory.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Ravens 30, the Commanders 23.

Speaker 1 Up to Green Bay where they were saying, Romeo, Romeo, where art thou, Romeo? Dobbs reunited with his forbidden love. Jordan, that is, leaning up for two scores.

Speaker 1 Arizona couldn't hold a candle to Melton Wicks, and the Packers ran up the score, leaving the Cardinals fishing for an answer as their fans are saying, Michael Wilson, king of touchdowns, we lay this hate on you.

Speaker 1 Packers 34, Cardinals 13.

Speaker 1 Down to the big easy word, Spencer Giff's Rattler threw very tacky balls to Arian Foster Moreau, who in true communist fashion failed to capitalize on Bucs. God wins again, atheist.

Speaker 1 Sean Penis Tucker showed everyone he was a man ginah, scoring twice, and despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in the cade.

Speaker 1 As Otten had Saints fans smashing pumpkins early in the fourth quarter as the Bucs put up a 50 burger the Bucs 51 the Saints 27 we head on over to Foxborough for Drake Mays

Speaker 1 First game Hank you looked at me like you weren't ready but Hank's ready you mean we go over to Gillette we're at long last it was time

Speaker 1 for the main event

Speaker 1 CJ Sean Stroud took the Texans down down down down, down, down

Speaker 1 the field. And threw a touchdown to tank.
Dun dun dun dun. Dell to get the scoring started.
Joe Mixon of Water added a rushing TD of his own before October's very own. Drake May found Kays Sean.

Speaker 1 Booty, booty, booty, booty, rocking everywhere for a 40-yard score. Speaking of booty everywhere, Stefan Coach Diggs scored on a glitch play

Speaker 1 as the Texans roll over the Patriots 41-21. I thought I had some more, but I don't know where they went, Boom.
That's okay, Boom. I'm talking about my homework, Boom.
That's all right, Boom.

Speaker 1 Good job, Boom. To Sin City, where Steelers Vegas was the plot of Ocean's 11.
Hoping for an easy W, but ending up like easy E. Aids and O'Connell left with some bad blood towards Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 When asked post-game about his touchdown run, Najee Kamala Harris said, I grew up in a middle-class family and used to work at McDonald's. Pittsburgh, 32.
The Raiders, 13.

Speaker 1 Over in Denver, where B.O. Nicks doesn't deserve the axe, even though he was body spraying the ball over the field.
J.K.

Speaker 1 Rowling-Dobbins was a turf monster, scoring a touchdown and racking up 96 yards on the day.

Speaker 1 The white Bronco himself, Riley Moss, couldn't go fast enough down the LA freeway as he took a few stabs in a big play, but ended up on the losing end.

Speaker 4 O.J. Simpson's dead, folks.

Speaker 1 R.I.P. O.J.
Simpson, A much better player than a human being. Chargers, 23, the Broncos, 16.

Speaker 1 In Dallas, there were a lot of anger kicks made, and it looked like a Kareem Hunt video as Tim Patrick starred. And unless you've been living under a rock, the Lions are good.

Speaker 1 Lion cowboys, like Enos and Jack, telling their wives there was nothing happening up on that mountain. And much like that film, the Cowboys sucked on D, letting the Lions put up 47.

Speaker 1 Dax Salente showed his asshole and his butt crack again. Big fucking deal.
We never seen an asshole before.

Speaker 1 Lions 47. Cowboys 9.
And happy birthday to Jerry Jones, the biggest asshole in the world.

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 Another record lost. The Eagles taking off.
Candle Brown just in the season, please sirani hates

Speaker 1 max shapes that domest

Speaker 1 he uses kids as human shields is he in homas

Speaker 1 eagles 20 browns 16

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Speaker 1 Okay, week six in the books. We'll recap Sunday Night Football Snooze Fest Sunday Night Football

Speaker 1 at the end of everything because it's still going on but boys scoring might be back in the NFL final outside of Sunday Night Football finally we had nine games in week six where a team went over 30 points yeah we had some great great games if you bet the overs today that uh the Bucs Saints game feel like that in basically the first quarter that was insane yeah yeah but we also had it felt like a bunch of the favorites won not a lot of surprises some statement games that we had maybe the worst birthday Yeah, for Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 Put that in the tickler for the Tiki Awards. Worst birthday.

Speaker 1 Worst birthday. Yeah.
Yeah. So let's get into the games, though.

Speaker 1 We started with the London game. Bears 35, Jaguars, 16.

Speaker 1 I very much enjoyed this game. I bet you did.
This was a very fun game. This is why people wanting me to freak out after two weeks.

Speaker 1 This game felt good because Caleb Williams was awesome. He threw four touchdown passes.

Speaker 1 He ran for 56 yards. He was actually the fourth QB ever

Speaker 1 to have

Speaker 1 fourth rookie QB ever to have four plus TDs and 50 rushing yards in a game. He also is the first QB picked number one overall in the common draft era to start four and two.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So four out of six, which

Speaker 1 is a little vindication of when I said that he was going into the best situation a number one pick has ever gone into.

Speaker 1 Yes, the offensive line, which was bad to start the season, has looked a lot better. This is kind of what I'm talking about because the Bears defense continues to put, even with all their injuries,

Speaker 4 elite performances together every single week and essentially gives the offense like they the it's been 12 games that a team's gone over 21 points on the bears and Caleb Williams the Keenan Allen connection just everything you all looked awesome you also had the the Travis Hunter of the NFL today Cole Komet yeah Cole Komet he had two touchdowns right two touchdowns two touchdowns and then there was an injury to your long snapper yep so Cole Komet couldn't even celebrate his touchdowns because he had to run to the line of scrimmage and be the emergency long snapper.

Speaker 4 And I don't think he fucked up a single snap either.

Speaker 1 No, he didn't.

Speaker 1 He was awesome. Keenan Allen was awesome.
That's been like a focus because he obviously started injured the season. Now he's back, and he's kind of the safety valve.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams' touchdown throw where he hit him back shoulder, which was so perfect.

Speaker 1 Just everything. Like, even Caleb Williams, one interception, which is a bad throw.

Speaker 1 You saw it. It was like DJ Moore was wide open.
If he throws that correctly, it's a touchdown.

Speaker 1 From that point on, he scored, he went four touchdown drives in a row. So it's like that, that's the type of stuff that you see from Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 And again, it's just like every week he's gotten better. People will say, well, they're playing bad teams.
They're also destroying bad teams. And this is why I didn't freak out after two weeks.

Speaker 1 And this is why everyone who wanted me to call him a bust and everyone was like, he's a bust. Now we see the Bears are 4-2.

Speaker 1 And I feel happy. I'm

Speaker 4 sure it's a pretty good record.

Speaker 1 4-2 is a good record. And listen, they've gotten better every week.
And Shane Waldron's gotten better. The offensive line's gotten better.
DeAndre Swift's gotten better. Get bye-week coming up.

Speaker 1 Get some guys healthy on the defense. Like,

Speaker 1 we lost three defensive starters this week.

Speaker 1 So get them healthy. Everything feels good.

Speaker 4 We're not very smart on this show. And I think the only thing that we're smart about is how often we say that we're not smart.
We nail that take all the time.

Speaker 4 But we do know what sleep is, and we know how to optimize sleep. Yep.

Speaker 4 And so when there's a big sleep gap in between the teams that go over to London, now, obviously with the Jags, they got thrown off by the hurricane. Yep.

Speaker 4 I don't know what their plan was going to the week, if they planned on going over earlier, if they were always going to go on Thursday evening or afterwards or whatever they were.

Speaker 4 So I feel comfortable saying that's a shitty sleep plan. You have to have a better sleep plan than that.
The Bears got there on, they left on Monday. They got there on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 They got there on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 Now they get to catch up on their sleep, come back on a bye week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we got an hour back this weekend when we just changed the clocks.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars do do that every time, and they are used to obviously going to London.

Speaker 1 And if you

Speaker 1 watching this game, you would think that the Jaguars are the ones that have more sleep, because in the first quarter, the Bears were sleepwalking.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars had a nice 10-play drive to go down the field, and I think it was a field goal to start, but

Speaker 1 then it just flipped, and the Bears woke up, and it was just... It was such an enjoyable watch.
I had so much fun. I'm not going to make any crazy statements about Caleb Williams going forward.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to say I've enjoyed trusting the process of Caleb Williams and watching him get better every single week.

Speaker 1 He still has ways to go, but it's fun to see him do things that no other Bears quarterback has ever done.

Speaker 1 And he actually just tied, through six games, tied the record for most touchdowns for a rookie Bears QB with Jim McMahon nine.

Speaker 4 That's pretty good. Pretty good.

Speaker 1 Low bar. Pretty good.

Speaker 4 He looks the part. Today was a big day.
I'm glad that you got to enjoy just like watching him and just being like, fuck yeah, this is cool. Yeah.
He's everything that I thought he would be.

Speaker 4 And yeah, so now the Bears get to come back, get more sleep, get caught up on sleep again, hybrid a little bit more. Yep.

Speaker 4 I'd like to apologize to the country of England

Speaker 4 that we send the Jaguars over to them all the time. Two weeks ago.
But you know what? Those fuckers, we have to watch Piers Morgan on our TV all the time. Yep.
You have to watch the Jaguars.

Speaker 4 I'm going to call that a wash. That's a fact.
I'm going to say that's even. So now the Jaguars are staying over there.
They're playing a double header next week. It's a Patriots, right?

Speaker 1 So, yeah.

Speaker 4 I have a sad, this isn't really a sad Jaguars stat from our good Uncle Chaps, but it's related to the Jaguars. Okay.
So this is actually first pointed out by Mark Long.

Speaker 4 It was a rough weekend for teams once coached by Urban Meyer. Jaguars, 35-16, lost to the Bears in London.
Ohio State loses 32-31 at Oregon. Florida falls 23-17 in overtime at Tennessee.

Speaker 4 Utah loses 27-19 at Arizona State. And Bowling Green falls 17-7 to northern Illinois.
Damn. The stink is still on the programs from Urban Meyer.
Damn. All over his fingers.
That's bad.

Speaker 4 The stinky little fingers.

Speaker 1 He lost them all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Jaguars are.

Speaker 1 Andre Sisko said afterwards, there was a lot of quit, which is that, that's not good. And it feels like Doug Peterson is on borrowed time.
We've talked about all the quotes he's had.

Speaker 1 Shad Khan on Saturday did a vote of confidence, which is never a good sign.

Speaker 1 He said, I still believe in them. I believe in the coaching staff.
I believe in the players. That means he does not believe in them, but he's stuck in England for a week with them.

Speaker 1 And you probably can't fire Doug Peterson in England, which would be hilarious if they did, which, yeah, the Jaguars just, they're bad. They were dropping balls.
Like,

Speaker 1 their defense, their secondary is bad. Just a really sad team.
And it brought me to a thought. Are we going to look back, and Max, this is no offense to you because

Speaker 1 flags fly forever. Banners fly forever.
You don't apologize for it. But are we going to look back and say Doug Peterson and Nick Foles was the craziest Super Bowl-winning combo of all time?

Speaker 4 I mean, it already kind of is. It already kind of is.
You consider who they beat in that Super Bowl, Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, it is the craziest thing.
Like, Doug Peterson is going to get fired probably mid-season here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is he a Malcolm Butler merchant?

Speaker 1 It's just nuts. Like, we're going to look back and be like, wait, that happened? Oh, yeah, that did.
Yeah. But, yeah, it's sad for Doug Peterson right now.
I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 4 Well, he's all over it. He knows exactly what the issue is.
He says, we've got to change the culture. Otherwise, it just gets out of control.

Speaker 4 We're on a slippery slope or right on the cusp of that slope. I'm sure we've got, at some point, we've got to say enough is enough, and you've got to have enough pride and figure out a way.

Speaker 4 They asked him if next week was a must-win. He said, I would say so.
I would say everything here on out, quite frankly, is a must-win. I would say so.

Speaker 4 For Doug, I would say that he's already lost a couple of the must-wins. Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 1 It's sad for the Jaguars because it just happened so fast where Trevor Lawrence has, again, there were a bunch of drops, like his receivers didn't help him, but the regression it feels like that he's gone through has been severe.

Speaker 1 And you just locked him up to a long-term deal, and now you have all these questions. And man,

Speaker 1 it's sad to be a Jaguars fan.

Speaker 4 I feel like that changing your flight home at this point, getting an earlier flight home if you're fired, that's a pretty hefty bill, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you have, like, I'm assuming it's business class, first class coming back, to change that up from like two weeks from now to like a week from now, I guess it would be a week from now to like tomorrow if you wanted to fire him.

Speaker 4 That's probably, you're looking at like a $30,000 ticket, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 Listen, it would be the most Jaguars thing and the funniest thing ever if they did fire him while they're still in England Yeah, like that would be the most Jaguars thing for like maybe even wait till like Thursday or Friday Yeah, really add to the chaos.

Speaker 4 Yeah, or they just they say Doug why don't you come on home? Come home. You're not gonna coach the second game in England.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like we want we want to put on a good showing for our British fans over there. Come back take the week to regroup and then you're gonna be the coach when they get back in the U.S.

Speaker 1 Shad Khan should be like, Doug, I want to meet with you in our facility in Jacksonville. And then Doug flies home and then Shad Khan just on a Zoom.
Yeah. And he's like, you're fired.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 Which that would actually be okay because you wouldn't want to fly all the way home and then have to have a meeting and then fly all the way back.

Speaker 4 If they lose next week, they should just give him a boat. Like, make him go out to Wales and catch a boat there.
It'd be like, here's your boat.

Speaker 4 If you can figure out how to get this back to Jacksonville on your own, there's no staff, no crew on it. Just you and your other coaches.

Speaker 4 If you can land in Jacksonville within like five weeks, then you've got your job.

Speaker 1 You can keep your job.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you have anything you want to say to me?

Speaker 1 About what? No. Oh.
Okay, well, I have a clip from last year that our darling Jake had a reminder in his calendar that he texted me over the weekend.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Jake Gottscoregami today.

Speaker 1 Jake got a scoreigami. Congrats.
This is when you were peak laughing at me last year at the end of the Bears season.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, play it. I'll say it.
It's my Super Bowl. I don't care.
It's right before the Packers. It should be.
And guess what? If the Bears win, Packers fans will be crying, crying, crying.

Speaker 1 And it will be great. And I'll fucking love every second of it.
You don't even know that we're playing to bounce the Packers. Yeah, I do.
Lions did it last year. Oh.
Oh, that's very interesting.

Speaker 1 That's interesting. I know.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 You know what? Jake, put a reminder on this exact conversation. Yep.
Week six next year when the Bears are four and two or five and one.

Speaker 4 This is going to age nicely.

Speaker 1 Oh, I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this.
The Bears are going to be good next year.

Speaker 1 They are.

Speaker 4 That's on the Big Cat soundboard.

Speaker 1 The Bears are going to be good in 2024.

Speaker 1 I'm saying it right now. This team is playing fucking good football.
Justin Fields leads. You guys are playing for each other.
The defense is legit. We have all the draft capital.

Speaker 1 We have all the fucking cap space. I don't care that this might be a terrible soundbite for me next year, but I'm saying it right now and I believe it.

Speaker 1 Would you like to apologize to me? You laughed at me a lot. I don't think I laughed at hard.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I did not say anything.

Speaker 6 You laughed that I would like to apologize.

Speaker 1 No, you laughed a lot at me at this point. And I just called my shy.
I said, week six, we're going to be four and two or five and one. I wish we were five and one, but we're four and two.

Speaker 4 I think the funniest part of that video clip was the giant family-size thing of tums that we have just on the desk. It's late in the season.

Speaker 1 Late in the season.

Speaker 4 So it's in jumpsuit January.

Speaker 1 You don't want to say anything? You don't want to say anything? I didn't say anything in that clip. No, but you know what happened before that clip.

Speaker 1 You mocked me and said this team stinks and they'll always stink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. I did.
And I said they're building something at the end of last year, and they're going to keep going forward.

Speaker 6 I'm happy for you, Big Cat. I'm happy for the city of Chicago.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm only taking a victory lap for you specifically because the Bears have a lot of season left, a lot of tough games left. It's a very unfinished product.

Speaker 1 I do not think they're some incredible team right now. I do not think Caleb Williams is some elite quarterback.
They're working towards it, but you specifically, just you, I want you to say sorry.

Speaker 6 I will not say sorry. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 That's fine. That's fine.
That's fine.

Speaker 4 I respect Hank Hank not apologizing. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 6 There's nothing to apologize.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what happened in the previous part of that clip. Also, I just had dude.

Speaker 6 I'm just on the record saying no one wants the Bears to win more than me.

Speaker 1 Jake had, he sent me the calendar reminder, and it literally said remind Hank when the Bears are 4-2 or 5-1 after week six. So

Speaker 6 that happened. You're right.
You called your shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Well, congrats. Thank you.
Congrats. Job's not done.

Speaker 1 No, listen, the Bears haven't played. They've played bad teams.
I get that. They've also killed bad bad teams.

Speaker 6 All your wins are against teams that are here. Is that true?

Speaker 1 I like this. I like this.
Go.

Speaker 1 You have the stat. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 No, you tell me. I can't remember.

Speaker 1 Listen, the goalposts keep moving. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 I think that is true.

Speaker 6 I was asking you.

Speaker 4 What's the stat? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I believe all the teams the Bears have beat are one in five.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know if they're one in five. I think one of them is one in four because they had a bye week.
So wrong, wrong stat. That was wrong.

Speaker 4 That's a very funny stat.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 4 you can't apologize apologize who you play.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 When other teams light up bad defenses, everyone says they're incredible. And when the Bears do, it's the goalpost move.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying the Bears are an incredible team.

Speaker 1 They're beating the teams they should beat, and they're actually beating the fuck out of them.

Speaker 4 The Rams. How many wins do the Rams have? They have one.
The Rams have only one win? Yeah.

Speaker 4 The Panthers and the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true. Listen,

Speaker 1 when Jay Daniels plays well against bad defenses,

Speaker 4 I'm saying you play who you play.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 When Drake May plays the Jaguars next week and he looks awesome, you should be happy. I will be.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 They're killing them. Yeah.
They've killed the Jaguars. They killed the Panthers.

Speaker 6 Cole Komet, beast.

Speaker 1 Colkomet is a beast. He's a beast, yeah.
He is a beast. But yeah, like, still, they got a fucking really tough schedule.
These were the games they had to win.

Speaker 1 Every game this week, or last week and this week, I said were must-wins.

Speaker 1 Because if you don't must-win them and you lose them, then you're going to be stuck in a situation later on in the season where you're like, How did we lose to the Jaguars?

Speaker 1 How do we lose to the Panthers? They're not stuck in that situation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and so next up, Commanders.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll be afraid of the bye week.

Speaker 4 Tattoo bet?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll do a tattoo bet. Tattoo bet.

Speaker 4 Let's do it.

Speaker 1 I'll get a tattoo. I don't know what I'm going to get.

Speaker 6 Warthog.

Speaker 4 No, you get plane. I'm not going to get a plane of my choosing.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to get a warthog.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'd get.

Speaker 1 I'd probably get something. I don't know.
Maybe just like an insult tattoo of Hank or something. Maybe Hank without a beard.

Speaker 1 On the palm of my hand. And I'll just do every podcast just like this.
Valdo.

Speaker 1 How sick would that be?

Speaker 4 Hank would look like, yeah, like powder.

Speaker 6 Voldemort. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just had it right here, and I was like, hey, Hank, question. You want to apologize?

Speaker 1 You're just looking at yourself.

Speaker 4 You don't see too many palm tattoos.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, all right.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm being reasonable, but

Speaker 1 no, look, four and two.

Speaker 1 I feel like I should at least be

Speaker 1 happy. You should be happy.
People trying to steal my joy. You should be thrilled.

Speaker 1 The goalposts do keep moving, but that's fine. That's just the not from you guys.
I'm not saying you're not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I honestly didn't know the stat about them beating one lot or one-win teams. Yeah, no, we played bad teams, but we've killed them.
It's just interesting that it's all the one-win teams.

Speaker 1 The defense also has 13 takeaways this year. They're just that they're taking the ball away, which is important.

Speaker 1 You got to respect the ball.

Speaker 4 And you know what? The Jaguars have played a lot of games this year, and you guys are the ones that made them quit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they tapped. Matt Eberflues, one of the fumble that we had to start the second half, I believe it was right after, I can't remember who was doing sideline, said, talk to Matt Eberflues.

Speaker 1 He said at halftime, we have to honor the football.

Speaker 4 I like that. I like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, respect. I still don't love Matt Eberflues, but guess what? His defense plays hard, and Shane Waldron has done better.

Speaker 4 Cherish it. Love the football.

Speaker 1 Honor the football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up, Ravens 30, Commanders 23.

Speaker 1 Do you want to start?

Speaker 4 I mean, Ravens are really good. I'll just say the Ravens are really good.
Their defense played a lot better today than it has in the past. Teen Pease.
Yeah, Dean Pease is back.

Speaker 4 Team P's makes a difference.

Speaker 1 Teen Pease makes a big difference.

Speaker 4 And yeah, the Commanders' defense is just bad.

Speaker 4 We're very bad on D, and there was really no way that we could have won that game considering how our defense played.

Speaker 1 Hank just kept on saying,

Speaker 1 this defense is the worst I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're bad. They're very bad.
Very bad. St.
Juice had a really tough tough game today.

Speaker 6 They just forgot to use middle linebackers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the middle of the middle of the Zay Flowers was just going everywhere.

Speaker 4 Middle of the field is wide open. Zay Flowers is doing the thing where he somehow catches a dig with like, I don't know, 10, 15 yards of open turf around him.

Speaker 4 And he does that little spin move right after he catches it, gets another seven yards. That was all day.
And they could have beaten us any way they wanted today. They could have gone to Zay Flowers.

Speaker 4 They could have gone to Bateman, right? He's their other receiver. They could have had Derrick Henry run for 300 yards against us.
And it probably would have worked out for the Ravens.

Speaker 4 So the Commanders, we got a lot of holes, especially on the, you know, the personnel side of the defense. But I will announce that the Super Bowl window for the Commanders is officially opening.

Speaker 4 Oh, nice. This is the start of the Super Bowl window.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 We're not a Super Bowl winning team this year. I'm not thinking Supi this year, but I know it when I see it.
We have a Super Bowl window. We got a fuckload of cap space.
We have a great quarterback.

Speaker 4 an awesome quarterback, maybe the best quarterback I've ever seen play for my team. We've got some weapons for him.
We need a couple additions here and there on offense.

Speaker 4 And I think we need to spend all of our draft picks on the defense. Yeah.
And we need to get better

Speaker 4 free agency, trade deadline, draft, whatever it is. Just focus on the defense because I think the Super Bowl window is here.

Speaker 1 What about now it's open?

Speaker 4 This year?

Speaker 1 Yoffs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm thinking Yoffs. I don't think the NFC is as good as the AFC is.
I think that we should be able to get, well, the NFC North is really, really good. It's insane.

Speaker 4 Actually, the NFC North, if you want to talk some crazy stats right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have them as well.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, we can get to those when we talk about it.

Speaker 1 it. Let's do it when we talk about the Packers because the Packers lead into the crazy stats.

Speaker 4 That sounds good. So there's no torch passing today, no torch passing.
But if you're looking at a measuring stick game, which, by the way, I love the fact that they said that to Dan Quinn.

Speaker 4 He was like, no, we're not doing measuring sticks. We're not doing measuring sticks.
I like that. Because that implies that they're not as good as the other team.

Speaker 4 It actually was a measuring stick game. It was.

Speaker 1 And you guys measured okay. You were okay.

Speaker 1 The Ravens' offense is the best offense in football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Lions.

Speaker 1 The Ravens are the best offense in the AFC for sure. Lions are looking like they're absolutely insane right now.
While the Bengals just scored a touchdown and possibly a cover. That was big.

Speaker 1 Chase Brown. But the Ravens are just...

Speaker 1 They are the first team since 1971 Raiders, John Madden's Raiders, to have 150-plus rushing yards and a rush TD in all six of their first games.

Speaker 1 Mark Andrews, which we said on Friday, was going to get unlocked for the first time this year, scored a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Likely as it be, save flowers everywhere. Imagine if they add Devontae Adams, which is, there's still a team that's in the talks to it.

Speaker 4 Could be the Raiders.

Speaker 4 Like Schefter said, he might just stay.

Speaker 1 He might just stay because he likes Aiden O'Connell, which is weird. But yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they're an absolute monster of an offense, and I feel like

Speaker 1 that's a game like you guys were. Your defense just needs to get better.
But also, the Ravens are going to do that to every defense. They did that to the Bills' defense.

Speaker 1 They did that to the Bengals' defense.

Speaker 4 They're going to do it to to every defense. We never had a chance in that.
We got that interception off the Mark Andrews drop on the first drive.

Speaker 4 Then there was that fucked up snap that we didn't recover on defense. And if you're going to win that game,

Speaker 4 you have to get very, very lucky multiple times.

Speaker 4 And so, yeah, Ravens just a very, very good team. Ravens are awesome.
I think the Ravens.

Speaker 4 I'm looking forward to the inevitable Chiefs-Ravens playoff matchup. Yes.
I'm looking very much forward to that.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Ravens will realize they should run the ball. Maybe they're.
Although the Chiefs have a really good defense.

Speaker 4 But I think having having just a giant on your sideline and Derrick Henry, it's kind of hard to forget about Derrick Henry when he's that much bigger than everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, like if you have a small guy, if you've got a little guy that's like 5'10, 5'11, you can get lost and be like, yeah, you know, let's just keep passing.

Speaker 4 But Derrick Henry is physically so big that I don't think that Harbaugh would ever forget to run him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's Derrick Henry's on pace right now for 1,979 yards and 22 touchdowns, which would be his best season. He did go over 2,000 one year, but he had 17 touchdowns.

Speaker 1 So he is 30 years old, and it's just, I mean, we've seen it in the last couple of weeks where even at the beginning of the game, maybe he's not getting these big runs, and then just lean on him, lean on him, lean on him.

Speaker 1 Lamar's feet, Lamar's throwing. All of a sudden, it's like, fuck, now we've got to worry about Derrick Henry in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 And he salted that game away, basically just running it through you guys.

Speaker 4 They could have beat us in any number of different ways. But yeah, Derrick Henry at the end, nothing you can do about it when you have those personnel out there on defense.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Ravens, very good team.

Speaker 4 Commanders, Super Bowl window open. Act accordingly.
All decisions should be made from this point forward that we're going to win a Super Bowl in the next five years. Yep.
Or at least try to.

Speaker 4 It feels good to say that and mean it.

Speaker 4 I believe that

Speaker 4 this is our shot.

Speaker 1 So you just said

Speaker 1 Super Bowl window now open. What was the crazy shit you were going to say if you won the game? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 4 I was going to say MVP, Jaden. I was going to say, yeah, Super Bowl this year.
I was going to say, I'm never going to lose another game again.

Speaker 4 I was going to say, I'm six feet tall. I was going to get fucking wild with it.
Yeah. But yeah.
Mostly I was going to say Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Super Bowl this year. But I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that. I'm thinking the offs.

Speaker 1 And you did say at the beginning, which I agree with, like the Ravens, it felt like their defense after what happened with the Bengals, maybe just the Dean P's effect.

Speaker 1 It's not that Jaden Daniels didn't have a bad game. It just wasn't ever easy for him.
You know what I mean? Like they made, they let up touchdowns, but they made you work for him. And

Speaker 1 that's kind of all they need to do with their offense is just have a defense that is a little bit better than what it has been a couple of these games this year to be Super Bowl champs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for the Ravens on offense, everything looked exceptionally easy today.

Speaker 4 For the Commanders on offense, everything looked pretty hard, but we still managed to score a decent amount of points against that defense. But yeah, the Ravens defense, much better.

Speaker 1 I have a question for you.

Speaker 1 And now, I like Dan Quinn,

Speaker 1 recurring guest, friend of the program, backwards hat, love it. It always does look a little funny when he does the backwards hat halftime interview.
Yeah. Because he's like,

Speaker 1 whoa, this guy's a little too chill. Yeah.
Like he's, for some reason, when you see it from afar on the sideline, it makes sense. But then when he's talking, it's like, hey, man.

Speaker 1 I don't want to sound like a coward, but maybe put your hat forward just for this interview.

Speaker 4 So sometimes during the games, he like, he gets nervous and he starts turning it around. I like that.
So, yeah, I think it's just however you manage to catch him.

Speaker 4 I think he needs to put the hat on forwards when he's talking to the refs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because when he's talking to the refs, they're like, is this a drunk fan that got down on the sideline that's just screaming at me? Or is this a head coach?

Speaker 4 Yeah, listen, Dan Quinn, I think he's doing a great job so far.

Speaker 1 I do too.

Speaker 4 I think in a couple games, the defense has looked okay, and that's kind of the best that we can hope for this year. Our floor is like the worst defense in the NFL, and our ceiling is like 15th.

Speaker 4 So if we can settle around like 20 to 22, then I think we'll make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you get to play the Panthers next week, which is great. Which is a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 I don't know how I can get rid of this jinx because when I looked ahead at the schedule, I was looking at when the Bears game was, I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. We got the Panthers next.

Speaker 4 I think I said out loud, we have a bye next week because we play the Panthers.

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 4 I regretted saying that the instant that I said it.

Speaker 4 Is there any way that I can retract? No. I was doing satire.

Speaker 1 Don't be worried. I'm not worried.

Speaker 4 It's the Panthers. I'm not worried.
It's the Panthers.

Speaker 1 You also, I mean, the schedule is,

Speaker 1 I think you guys are your playoff team.

Speaker 1 Because you have to play a lot of NFC East opponents, but the NFC doesn't look that great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whereas, like, the Bears have to play all the NFC North, and the NFC North is just

Speaker 1 kicking the shit out of everyone.

Speaker 4 We should say that this is Lamar. Now he's, what, 22-1 against the NFC?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, 23-1.

Speaker 4 23-1 against the NFC, which is a stat that makes no sense, but it's awesome.

Speaker 1 Someone wanted me to point out, out, I just saw this scrolling on Twitter on Friday.

Speaker 1 They wanted me to point out that whenever we bring that up, we have to point out that the one loss is to Daniel Jones and the Giants.

Speaker 4 That's fascinating.

Speaker 1 But that's fair. Yeah.
To be like, hey, can you believe the one loss was to Daniel Jones and the Giants?

Speaker 4 Well, he's faster than Lamar. Remember that? That's true.
He ran like 26 miles an hour. That's true.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game.

Speaker 1 Eagles 20, Browns, 16.

Speaker 1 Max, I want to talk about the Eagles and Nick Siriani in a second, but we have to talk about Deshaun

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I have a thought.

Speaker 1 Maybe we're thinking about the Deshaun Watson thing the wrong way because everyone obviously says he should be benched. He should be benched.
He's bad.

Speaker 1 He actually played like a little bit better today, but he was still really bad.

Speaker 1 I saw a tweet that

Speaker 1 Austin Gale wrote that Jamarcus Russell lost minus 63.8 total EPA on dropbacks in weeks one through six in 2009. Deshaun Watson has broken that record

Speaker 1 from the quarterbacks they've charted since 2000. He's 734th through the first six weeks of the season.
He's got a minus 66.2

Speaker 1 total EPA on dropbacks. That's how much he's lost.
I don't even know what EPA is, but when

Speaker 1 I saw this, he listed them all. It's Deshaun Watson 734.
David Carr, Mark Bolger, Josh Rosen, Achilles Smith, Jay Fielder,

Speaker 1 Blaine Gabbert, Jamarcus Russell. That's the list he's on, and he's at the bottom of that list.

Speaker 4 You know what's crazy is that he's played against bad defenses. Yeah.
He hasn't played against good defenses yet.

Speaker 1 He hasn't played against good defenses. And so I've been thinking about it.
Maybe, so everyone thinks he should be benched, which he should be benched. But what if,

Speaker 1 we're just thinking about it wrong, what if this is just the Browns actually

Speaker 1 doing justice

Speaker 1 in a public shaming way? They're like, he's so bad, and we know he's so bad. He can't play quarterback.

Speaker 1 We're just going to make him continue to play quarterback and publicly shame him because that's the only justice he'll ever have.

Speaker 4 Smoke the whole pack of cigarettes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Go out back and smoke a whole carton of Browns for me.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 he's never going to, like, he's paying people off in his lawsuits. All that's going on.
What's the only way that the league can punish him? Make him continue to play quarterback.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's one way to look at it.

Speaker 1 I was just trying to find a new angle for, I mean, he's just so bad.

Speaker 4 Well, I think it makes you feel good that a guy with all that sketchy shit in his background is having to go out there every day and do the thing that he is the worst at. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And do it publicly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And have everybody know how much money that he makes. And he's not having fun.

Speaker 4 At the end of the day, you can at least be like, if you're a Browns fan, you can probably say confidently, Deshaun Watson is having less fun playing than I am watching. Yes.

Speaker 4 I think that's probably true. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 He basically has to go to a job that he's so bad at, and he has to keep going to it, and everyone's going to watch him.

Speaker 1 It's torture, which I'm for.

Speaker 4 I'm for the torture. Yeah, pro-torture.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm pro-torture in this case.

Speaker 1 For Browns fans. Yeah, Browns fans, that's unfortunate that you have to be a part of this.

Speaker 4 Well, you have to do like a... You have to put on the rose-colored shades and stuff.

Speaker 1 Guardians.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you have the Guardians. And also, if you're a Browns fan, it's not like your coaching staff is playing him because they think he's the best option.
No. You kind of have to deal with this.

Speaker 4 There's nothing else you can do about it.

Speaker 1 Just let us keep going with the torture for a little bit longer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Deshaun after the game said, me being the quarterback of this offense with Kevin and Ken, Dorsey, we have to do something a little bit.

Speaker 4 I don't know what we have to do, but we need to do something to lock in so we don't cost ourselves any more games because we've got to really turn this around. So

Speaker 4 they know that they have to do something, which is a good step to know that this isn't good. He's admitting publicly.

Speaker 1 They're finally realizing it.

Speaker 4 Something needs to happen.

Speaker 1 Do you think it was Field Yates tweeted this out?

Speaker 1 The Browns are the first team in 10 years to score under 20 points in each of of its first six games, and they have one touchdown in the last 29 offensive drives.

Speaker 1 They also, through six games, do not have over 200 yards passing in any of those games.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's crazy. Their only touchdown today was on the blocked field goal that got returned.

Speaker 1 And then we were watching the game, and we were in the gambling cave, and people got all types of different action. I had the overshoot.

Speaker 1 I was hoping for a tie 20-20 game, knowing that I would then get it because it was over 42. And I kept on saying people were freaking out because they wanted wanted the Browns to score.

Speaker 1 I was like, the Browns are not going to score from goal line. They got to the three-yard line.

Speaker 1 And would they take two penalties, went backwards, ran some plays that had no chance of getting in the end zone? That's the Browns. It was the most obvious.

Speaker 1 I wish I could have bet my life in that moment that the Browns would not score a touchdown because they are incapable of running like a real offense when a real offense needs to be run.

Speaker 4 Because what happens is Deshaun gets the ball in his hands and then He runs around for like five seconds and he looks like he's lost. He actually looks like he gets lost on the football field.

Speaker 4 And then there's three guys that sack him at the same time. He's the most sacked in terms of like bodies, number of bodies that have hit him.

Speaker 4 I would put that up there right with the David Carr rookie year.

Speaker 4 Because when he takes a sack, he gets hit by like the entire defensive line and it's crazy.

Speaker 4 Maybe Kevin Stefanus is just a really good ally. Maybe he's seeing all these losses.
That's what I'm saying. And he's like, you know what?

Speaker 4 I'm going to have Deshaun get the shit kicked out of the ball. That's what I'm saying.
Offensive line. You guys pretend that you're injured.
We'll put your backups in. I'll tell them not to block.

Speaker 4 And so we'll intentionally just get Deshaun Watson, just have the shit kicked out.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. It's torture that they are publicly shaming him and hurting him every single week that he has to remain the starter.
And again, sorry, Browns fans, that does suck. But it is.

Speaker 1 If you look at it that way, it makes sense why they're starting him. He's a bad person.
Let's make him fucking play quarterback because he can't play quarterback.

Speaker 4 Is Deshaun Watson getting sacked a million times a game and looking like a complete bum on the field, doing more than the Me Too movement ever did to protect women. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Kids, all the youngsters out there, I've talked to several.

Speaker 4 The youngsters are watching the games and they're like, I'm never going to just sexually harass a woman because I might end up playing quarterback for the Browns.

Speaker 1 See, it does make sense when you flip your whole viewing of this, of the Deshaun Watson instance, because it makes no sense that he's still playing.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Haslam is saying that you have to play him, but it's every week that everyone just goes online or on like football night in America, Florio and the gang, they just have like a, they're like, all right, A block, Cowboys, B block, Deshaun has to be benched.

Speaker 1 That's all they do.

Speaker 1 That's the whole show.

Speaker 4 You think Tony Dungy even looks at Deshaun and is like, I could fix him. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I could fix that guy.

Speaker 1 They don't realize that they need to just stop. Like, don't even bring up that he should be benched.

Speaker 1 Just use the whole B block and just talk about how awful he is at playing quarterback and continue the torture.

Speaker 4 It's scared straight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Kids.

Speaker 4 Kids, watch what this could be you. Yeah.
If you don't start respecting women.

Speaker 1 It's brutal, and I do feel bad for Browns fans, but Guardians. Guardians.
It was funny seeing the back-to-back days.

Speaker 1 Fanta going crazy for the Guardians and then in his unfinished basement talking about the Browns.

Speaker 1 There's another part of this game that we should talk about. The Philadelphia Eagles are back.
Win this game.

Speaker 1 Like, it was a close game, but they were better than the Browns.

Speaker 1 We knew that. Max, Jalen Hurts started slow.
A.J. Brown, which we told you on Friday, he was going to to eat.
He's back. He looked great.

Speaker 1 116 yards. Also, that crazy play at the end where they just salted the game away by throwing a 40-yard bomb was sick.

Speaker 1 So it was

Speaker 1 good game. Eagles back off of bye.
Nick Siriani after the game, or while the game was still going on,

Speaker 1 looked into the crowd and started basically getting in an argument with the Eagles crowd in the weirdest

Speaker 1 way possible when you win by four points against Deshaun Watson, who's, again, he's playing quarterback as torture.

Speaker 1 It was so bizarre. And then Nick Siriani goes to his post-game press conference and basically was like, here are all my kids.
Don't ask me any tough questions. What the fuck is going on, Max?

Speaker 4 Has he lost his mind?

Speaker 1 He also shaved his head. He also shaved his head, which is a classic sign of losing his mind.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it is actually, if you look it up, a lot of times when people are going through like nervous breakdowns or they're they're trying to reclaim control in their lives, they shave their heads because they feel like it gives them a fresh start because they feel bad.

Speaker 4 Sirianni showing up today, I think that everybody thought the same thing. Like this is, we saw what happened with Britney Spears.
Is Sirianni in a conservatorship? What's going on?

Speaker 2 I have no idea. He's acting bizarre right now.
The city of Philadelphia doesn't like him.

Speaker 2 Obviously doesn't help when you're jawing at the team for booing. And apparently some people said there was fire Siriani chants going on in the crowd.

Speaker 2 Some people were saying that. Some people were saying I was at the game there were no fire Siriani chants.
So I don't really know

Speaker 2 what to believe there.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 after the game he was asked about it and

Speaker 2 he said

Speaker 2 I was just excited to get the win. I appreciate the Link support.
So like I don't even know what that means when they were asked about him yelling at the fans.

Speaker 4 So he definitely yelled at Philly. It was definitely Philly fans saying fire Siriani after a win.
And he was like, we just won. I'm mad.
I'm going to go yell at him.

Speaker 1 He played this with like

Speaker 1 kids in his laps

Speaker 1 talking to his kids during the press conference, which, listen, I'm not kid shaming him, but it was, it felt very deliberate for him to bring his children to a press conference when he knew that people were going to be like, hey, what was that dude?

Speaker 1 Why were you yelling at our fans?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then when asked about the booze, he goes,

Speaker 2 we thrive when the crowd cheers for for us.

Speaker 2 That's all I say. We hear them when they boo.
We don't

Speaker 2 necessarily like it. I don't think it's productive for anybody, blah, blah, blah.
But when they cheer, we like it. Like, what does that

Speaker 1 mean? He's losing his mind.

Speaker 1 He's losing his mind.

Speaker 1 He can't be here.

Speaker 2 He can't be here.

Speaker 1 He can't be here.

Speaker 2 Like, if that's the way you're going to react

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 the fans acting like the fans have acted in Philadelphia for 100 years, like, that's not going to do anything, dude.

Speaker 1 Do you know who would never react to the fans

Speaker 1 in that situation and bring his kids to the press conference after? Mike Vrabel. Well, I was going to say Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's a good point.
Either or, right?

Speaker 4 His kids are coaching at Washington.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know. I think his time is.
I feel like, honestly, I feel like it's going to, at the end of the year, be

Speaker 2 a mutual parting of ways.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you think there's a chance it happens? Because so about this game, like,

Speaker 1 you are down on the Eagles.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was down on the Eagles. They didn't look great, but realistically, it should have been a 23-9 game.

Speaker 2 They should have dominated that game.

Speaker 2 They had the fluke

Speaker 2 block field goal, which was a 10-point swing.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Jalen Hurts didn't look bad.
It's probably...

Speaker 1 He looked bad to start, but then he figured it out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he started over five, but then since then,

Speaker 2 he was very good.

Speaker 2 No turnovers, which is a rarity in a Jalen Hurts game.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 This was like a spot where you would like to see them beat the shit out of a team and they just can't do that. They just can't do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Max, I know you're really down on Siriani right now, but you don't want him fired right now, do you?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't mind it?

Speaker 2 I'm indifferent to it. Like, I understand not firing him.
It's like the middle of the season, and

Speaker 2 we're still fighting for a playoff spot.

Speaker 1 Hank, you have an inquisitive face on?

Speaker 6 No, I'm just trying to hear him out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And what do you think?

Speaker 6 I feel like this is Max, Sunday Night Max, and then the second that a game starts

Speaker 1 and one bad play happens, it's like, get him out of here. Which is that

Speaker 6 to me, it's like not, you know, drunken words speak sober thoughts, but the passionate thoughts that you have during a game. Like, that's what you think.
Yeah, you want them gone. You want them gone.

Speaker 1 You want them gone right now. Saying him, you want them gone gone.

Speaker 6 You don't want to die or not, but like you want them gone.

Speaker 1 You want there to be a press conference tomorrow and have it be Jeffrey Lurie's like, when you disrespect our fans, you disrespect the organization. You can't be here anymore.

Speaker 4 You disrespect the city.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't hate that. Yeah, right.
I wouldn't hate that.

Speaker 1 You want Jeffrey Lurie to be like, I have the fans back no matter what. They pay your salaries.
Don't ever forget it. Nick Siriani, there's the door.

Speaker 2 He's been so dumb this year.

Speaker 1 He's just, he's actually, I think, having like a mental breakdown. That was so bizarre.

Speaker 2 Yeah, everything to everything today.

Speaker 1 It felt like the Eagles were on a road game, the way he was yelling at the fans. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And he's always kind of been like that. He's always been super emotional, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Even going back to his first year in Philly. I mean, the Super Bowl, when he cried.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he cried.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's the behavior of somebody who's on edge.

Speaker 1 Can't control it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know who can't control their emotions is Big Dom.

Speaker 1 Big Dom. Italian men.
Yeah, Big Dom used to slap him in the face and be like, act like a man.

Speaker 2 He was standing right next to him in the beginning of that clip, too, and then Siriani went rogue.

Speaker 4 Even Big Dom couldn't anticipate going after the fans.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have

Speaker 1 lines you don't cross. I wouldn't have been shocked if Big Dom just decked Nick Siriani.
He's like, those are my people.

Speaker 1 What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Pictures of assholes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you didn't show your ass crack during this game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm sure somebody will go through every shit.

Speaker 1 No, you came in dressed as baggy as possible. Correct.

Speaker 1 You were.

Speaker 1 Can you stand up and show your fit to the people?

Speaker 1 Why not? No. The best way I described it was Max came in looking like

Speaker 1 it it was

Speaker 1 he was like a Sopranos character who his wife hired him a personal trainer and he skipped out on it, but he still had to dress and then he went to the Bing to hang with the boys.

Speaker 4 Watch the game.

Speaker 1 He's wearing like baggy shorts and a baggy shirt and he's like, yeah, my fucking wife got me this personal trainer. I ain't going to there.
That's some fruit stuff. Yep.

Speaker 1 You're covered up.

Speaker 4 Oh, fair. Max, if you look at your schedule, though, you got the Giants, the Bengals, the Jaguars, the Cowboys coming up next.

Speaker 1 Oh, those are winnable games. You could win all those games.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're winnable games.

Speaker 4 And then you win all those games, and then Sirianni's dug in like a tick.

Speaker 1 I think we've got it.

Speaker 4 He's not leaving.

Speaker 2 The Giants, three and a half-point favorites on the road.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 4 I wonder: is there a time that an NFL coach has ever been fired after they won a game? Like in the middle of the season.

Speaker 4 Obviously, some coaches win the last game of the season, they're fired on Monday. But like in season, you win a game, you're fired.

Speaker 1 It would work here. Yeah, it would work here.

Speaker 2 If there were ever to be a spot, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It would work.
This is the perfect spot for it. Doug Peterson next week if they win.

Speaker 2 Maybe Gruden. Did Gruden win his last game?

Speaker 4 Oh, that's a good question. I don't know.
Because his was all off the field to see. He's right.

Speaker 4 He insulted Commissioner Goodell.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 4 Called him an anti-football pussy.

Speaker 1 So you're just... What are you out of a 10 right now for the Eagles?

Speaker 1 It's five. Five.
Oh, man.

Speaker 4 That breaks my heart to hear you say five. Five.

Speaker 2 Five. That's where, I mean, that's where I'm at.

Speaker 4 Mike Trout was at the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He needs to be in Philly. He needs the

Speaker 4 baseball in Philly. Would you, if you were doing like multi-sport city trades, would you trade Joelle Embiid to the Lakers for Mike Trout to the Phillies? No.

Speaker 2 Talk about a guy who can never stay healthy is Mike Trout.

Speaker 6 About Mike Trout and Sean McVay.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mike Trout's a friend. Yes.

Speaker 4 Mike Trout, Sean McAfee.

Speaker 1 I love Mike Trout.

Speaker 2 I want him to be.

Speaker 4 be for Embiid and playoff P.

Speaker 1 We got to find this stat if there's ever been

Speaker 1 playoff P and make the roster. It doesn't count winning the last game of the season.
Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I think it's in-season firing, yeah. I'm looking.

Speaker 4 All right, find our best guy. Find it, memes.
Oh, he resigned. He wasn't fired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got to find it. We got to find a coach who's been fired mid-season after a win.
I doubt it. I can't think of one.

Speaker 4 I mean, if any team can do it, it's

Speaker 1 so great. And it would be great if it was just like, yeah, we have the fans back.
Yeah. You can't do that.
Can't be yelling at the fans.

Speaker 4 Disrespected the city.

Speaker 2 And they lost that game before Gruden, too.

Speaker 1 Oh. To the Bears.
No. Oh, yeah.
Was that in London? No. Maybe.
No, we lost them in London, I think.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next game.

Speaker 1 Bucks Saints. This was a fucking crazy game.
Bucks 51, Saints 27.

Speaker 1 This game had the following scores. Bucs up 17 to nothing.
Saints up 27-24. Bucs up 51-27.

Speaker 1 So it was the Saints scored 27 points in the second quarter and didn't score. in any of the other quarters and the Bucs finished this game on a 27 unanswered points.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it sucked for the Saints that Olave got hurt, and so he was knocked out for the game, and their offense kind of didn't do jack shit after that. Spencer Rattler looked good for like a quarter.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Second quarter Saints will always have that.

Speaker 1 I think what happened was so he looked good in the first half, and then Todd Bowles was like, What the fuck am I doing? He's a rookie, let me just blitz him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Todd Bowles, if you knew the game plan going into it, was that Todd Bowles was just going to do all the crazy shit that Spencer Rattler had never seen. Yeah, just

Speaker 1 did tricks in it.

Speaker 1 And Baker had the most full stat sheet ever. He had 24 for 36, 325 yards, four touchdowns, three interceptions.
And he

Speaker 1 also throw in just an injury that we thought was like very serious that he's such a tough dude that he was fine.

Speaker 4 And like three downfield blocks too.

Speaker 1 And three yelling in someone else's face.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Baker makes me want to play football.
It's the best.

Speaker 1 He just goes out there and plays football.

Speaker 4 What a day for Lincoln Riley, by the way. Yeah.
Watching all the protégés, all the prize pupils get starts here.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are going to have to apologize to Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 4 Yeah, was he wearing a house divided shirt? Yeah.

Speaker 1 he,

Speaker 4 Spencer Rattler probably doesn't like Lincoln too much, though. No, I'm going to guess.

Speaker 1 I would say no. But yeah, Spencer Rattler, fine enough, but the Bucs offense was

Speaker 1 Chris Godwin deserves to be given more credit for being awesome because I know he was awesome when they won the Super Bowl. He was awesome before that.

Speaker 1 He got hurt a couple years, but he's having an awesome, awesome season. And he had, I think it was like 105 yards after catch today.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's just, you kind of forget about him because Mike Evans is so good.

Speaker 4 I was going to say, he's like Mike Evans compared to other elite receivers in NFL history is the same as like Chris Godwin compared to Mike Evans during the Chris Godwin era. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like he's very, very good.

Speaker 1 But we just need to throw some more respect on Chris Godwin's name because he's been very good this year. He's had a very good career and I think he got kind of forgotten a little bit.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Chris Godwin needs more respect.

Speaker 4 I have an insult stat for you

Speaker 1 for Dennis Allen. Okay.

Speaker 4 So Dennis Allen, head coach of the Saints. Guess how many teams he's beaten as coach with the Saints that have a winning record?

Speaker 4 I think he's at 40 games now.

Speaker 1 Four.

Speaker 1 Three. Three.

Speaker 4 He's got three, and

Speaker 4 two of those were in September. So they were like at the start of the year.
Oh,

Speaker 4 there was a Seahawks team that was 1-0. Now, the other teams.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys he beat this year 1-0?

Speaker 4 Oh, that's not on the list then. Oh, yeah.
The Cowboys were 1-0 at the time?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he beat the Brown Browns. Yeah, good point.

Speaker 4 So now, let me amend that. It's four.

Speaker 4 But of those four games, two of them are from September. Excuse me, now three of the four are from September, and two of them are Gardner Minshew teams.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 Which is just an interesting, fun little round. That is a very fun ring.
So he can beat a winning team if Gardner Minshew is starting on a short week where he's a backup quarterback coming in.

Speaker 1 Dennis Allen just gets forgotten as, like, hey, that guy stinks.

Speaker 4 He stinks.

Speaker 1 He stinks. By the way, I just looked it up.
How old do you think Chris Godwin is?

Speaker 4 Chris Godwin, 34. No, he's 29.

Speaker 4 28.

Speaker 1 Still young.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it feels like because he's just been around and

Speaker 1 won a Super Bowl. He feels like he's been good ever since he got there.
But yeah, he's having an awesome year. He has

Speaker 1 500 yards and five touchdowns through six weeks. Yeah.
Pretty damn good. Chris Godwin needs more respect.
But yeah, Dennis Allen.

Speaker 1 I guess what you could say about Dennis Allen is people just forget about Dennis Allen. That's probably his best asset.

Speaker 4 So why is he so forgettable? Is it because he looks like if he took every NFL coach in history and like combined them all into one composite sketch, he looks like Dennis Allen?

Speaker 4 I also the most average appearing guy.

Speaker 1 It's his appearance. I think it's

Speaker 1 his name.

Speaker 1 His name is very formulaic, too.

Speaker 1 AI, yeah, Dennis Allen. Yeah.
It's like, okay, what is that? All right, Dennis Allen.

Speaker 1 And yeah, he just kind of, he's been around forever, but never done anything that would make me be like, ooh, Dennis Allen, that guy's good.

Speaker 4 He doesn't even really have anything that he's good at, right?

Speaker 4 I'm not talking about just as a head coach. He doesn't have a specialty.
Like Todd Bowles, you're like, yeah, Todd Bowles,

Speaker 4 he'll blitz the fuck out of you. Dial it up.
He'll do weird shit. He'll have dudes coming at you from angles that Deshaun Watson can only dream of.

Speaker 4 But with Dennis Allen, it's like, there's nothing where I think Dennis Allen blank mastermind.

Speaker 1 He also, yeah, no, there is nothing. And he also, because the Raiders have had a history of just cycling through coaches, he's just in that list of Raider coaches that happened.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, yeah, that's right. And then he just ended up on the Saints because he was with Sean Payton and got that job.

Speaker 1 So I think that's also, I think that's part of it, is that there are certain Raiders coaches that just keep, every two years they would fire one. So you just kind of forgot about them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's probably true. And he doesn't really get that fired up.
Yeah. He just kind of, it looks like his job is to sit on the sidelines and just accept losses.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's very good at it. Yeah, I don't really know what does Dennis Allen do? He doesn't do anything, really.
4-12, 4-12, 0-4 were his three years with the Raiders as the head coach.

Speaker 1 And he's doing a lot better with the Saints because he's 7-10, 9-8, 2-4.

Speaker 1 He's 26-50 as a head coach.

Speaker 1 26-51.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. He's so bad.
He's so bad. And this team feels like this was kind of a quick game because the Bucs were just, it just kept on.
They kept on scoring, kept on scoring.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was one of those games where it's like, okay, the Bucs hate the Saints. They fight them all the time.
They're not going to stop scoring through this game.

Speaker 1 Remember, two weeks in?

Speaker 1 The Saints did win the first two weeks of the season. They did.

Speaker 1 They were the Super Bowl champs after two weeks.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 if Derek Carr.

Speaker 1 But it was against

Speaker 6 the Cowboys was like the convincing one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, they beat the Panthers and Cowboys, but we were all like, oh, the Cowboys are good because they're always... Because they beat the Browns.
Yeah, they were good last year.

Speaker 4 And we didn't realize how bad the Browns were.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this is definitely the win where you're just like,

Speaker 1 how did this...

Speaker 1 The Saints, oh, they're good? No, they're not.

Speaker 4 Did Spencer Rattler show you enough to be like, I want to see more Spencer Rattler?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just like Spencer Rattler's name, so I always want to see more Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love his name. Love his arm.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The arm works.

Speaker 1 I like Spencer Rattler. I want to see more Spencer Rattler.
Why not? You're not good.

Speaker 1 Saints are probably not going to be good this year.

Speaker 4 You might as well see what you got.

Speaker 1 You might as well see what you got.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Colts 20, Titan 17, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 Is he the starter?

Speaker 4 So today, I think he kind of was the starter. I think that Anthony Richardson was healthy.
Yeah. And they were just kind of like, we're going to go with a hot hand with Flacco.

Speaker 4 And yeah, Flacco, he didn't have his best game today, but I did. I had a moment this morning.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you've had one of these, big cat, where you see Joe Flacco is going to start and you just stop. You just stop in a moment in time and you take a mental snapshot.

Speaker 4 Just remember, today is a day where Joe Flacco will be playing football because it's not going to last forever. We're nearing the end of that road and the NFL, just the world is so much.

Speaker 4 sunnier to me when I know that Joe Flacco is still a part of it.

Speaker 1 He said it after the game too. He's like, being out here on Sunday never gets old and I'm going to cherish it for as long as I can do it.

Speaker 1 It's the best. I do feel like I was lied to by the Colts because all week I picked the Titans on every show we did.
And Joe Flacco, because I was thinking Anthony Richardson was going to play.

Speaker 1 I also didn't think Michael Pittman was going to play. And because he had like a broken back five days ago, and then he played, and he made the two biggest plays of the game.

Speaker 1 The jump ball touchdown and then the third down to

Speaker 1 ice the game. So I feel lied to by the Colts, but a good win for the Colts.
And Joe Flacco, I think, might be the starter because, like you said, Anthony Richardson, I'm pretty sure, is healthy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and Flacco, he makes a couple mistakes, but they're no worse than any Anthony Richardson mistake. Yeah.
And then he's at his best. That jump ball that he threw up, that was vintage Flacco.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just being like, you know what? Fuck it. I think I got a guy down there that's taller than their guy is.
So I'm going to throw it towards him.

Speaker 1 Michael Pittman made a great catch. And I was like, damn it.
I feel lied to because Michael Pittman is good.

Speaker 4 So Flacco now has the longest streak of two touchdowns and starts

Speaker 4 in the NFL NFL of anybody. Yes.
So no other quarterback has as many consecutive starts throwing two touchdown passes as Joe Flacco does.

Speaker 4 He has as many touchdown passes now as Deshaun does, Deshaun Watson does. And he's only started two games.
Yeah. So things are going good for Joe.

Speaker 4 Again, don't know how long he's going to be the starter. At some point, they're going to want to see Anthony Richardson play and just see what they have.

Speaker 4 But for now, just enjoy every Sunday that you wake up and Joe's getting a start. I agree.

Speaker 1 I 100% agree. It does feel like one of those situations where we just need to make a mental capture of just like Joe Flacco is.
He's having the best time. And his career was over like five years ago.

Speaker 1 Remember when he was on the Jets and the Broncos?

Speaker 4 And the Eagles? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it just, he's back and he's playing great. And the Colts should keep playing him.
I agree.

Speaker 1 I know that it probably doesn't make sense long term, but it also doesn't probably make sense long term Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, I think if you're trying to win football games, that's what you're supposed to do, then you should start Joe.
Yeah. It's that simple.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. For the Titans,

Speaker 4 I feel bad for Titans fans because shit's getting crazy for Calvin Ridley. He said, I need some targets in the beginning of the fucking game, too.
Shit's getting crazy for me. Yep.

Speaker 4 He had eight targets today, zero catches. In the last three games, Calvin Ridley has two catches for 14 yards.

Speaker 4 Not great. It feels like if you're handicapping receivers that might end up with the Chiefs by the end of the season, Calvin Ridley's probably up there with his teammate, DeAndre Hopkins.
Yep. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'd say so.

Speaker 1 Will Levis,

Speaker 1 friend of the program, love Will Levis.

Speaker 1 I think you got to bench him for a little bit here because the problem is the Titans are not a bad football team

Speaker 1 in its totality. Every game they've basically been in, their defense is good.

Speaker 1 He just feels lost out there.

Speaker 1 He feels lost, and

Speaker 1 at some point you keep losing these games by three points or, you know, four points, you know, just a random interception or a missed pass, and you're everyone in that locker room is like, fuck, we should have three wins already.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he did the Spider-Man celebration today, too. That was awesome.
It was a cool celebration.

Speaker 1 He also,

Speaker 1 this is a stat from our friend at Stad Hole, who does a great blog every Monday morning. Everyone, check it out with all the sad stats.

Speaker 1 Will Levis is the first QB to throw an interception in the first five games of the season since.

Speaker 4 Jameis?

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes six days ago. Oh, there we go.
Yeah, that's a fun stat.

Speaker 1 That's fun stat. Use that stat.
Go around to the bar and tell people that. Yes.
Will Levis threw an interception the first five games. Also, the last person to do it was Patrick Mahomes this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good for Will. Yeah.
Good for Will. He's on the team.
He's a good company. That's a good.
Hey, listen, we just put Will Levis and Patrick Mahomes in the same sentence.

Speaker 4 When I watch Will Levis play, he gives me big-time, like, Jeremy Shockey vibes. Yeah.
Like, he's that emotional after every single play. Yeah.
Which might not be the best thing for a quarterback.

Speaker 4 You want your quarterback to, like, not scream in people's faces, shoot webs at them. Also, Will, if you're listening,

Speaker 4 I would have liked for you to say hello or, hey, I'm sorry, to the guy whose knee got taken out on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 I think that guy had to just have better presence of mind. He just watched him roll, like, he watched the play come at him.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did give a thumbs up. That probably wasn't.
That's what he reached out after.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That guy was in an air cast. He was on the stretcher for what felt like a half hour.

Speaker 1 He was wearing receiver gloves, which I loved, and then he gave a thumbs up, which I love.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I don't know. People on the sidelines, it feels like it's happened a few times this year.

Speaker 1 He was staring at the play. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. He just gave feet up.

Speaker 4 I think you lose track at how fast these guys are coming at you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you also, it's kind of like being at the dog park. You got to always keep a little bend in your knees.
Keep your knees bent.

Speaker 1 You don't want a Labrador just running into the back of your knees if you have stiff legs.

Speaker 4 Wear pads. I want to see a guy in in like full kit, shoulder pads, helmet, knee pads.
Was he holding the chains?

Speaker 1 I think he was. He's a chain guy.
Maybe walk around with

Speaker 1 a tiny little wall right in front of your legs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or a dog.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 4 actually have a dog with you. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that guy, that was tough. But I just

Speaker 1 want it to work out for Will. I just think you probably have to...
Like, if you're Brian Callahan, again,

Speaker 1 you lost week one to the Bears. That was a winnable game that Will Levis made those mistakes late.
You lost to the Jets week two. That was a winnable game that he fumbled in the red zone.

Speaker 1 You got killed by Malik Willis. That made sense.
And then today, that was a winnable game. So at some point, you don't want the rest of the team to be like, hey, what the fuck are we doing here?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and if the Titans keep losing, then I think that's actually going to make Joe Flacco keep starting. Yeah.
Because the Colts can make the playoffs. Yes.

Speaker 4 It's not out of the picture to think that they might be able to.

Speaker 1 Yes, their division is not great.

Speaker 4 Obviously, Texans are the best team in that division. But they could, yeah, yeah, Colts could be a wildcard team.

Speaker 1 Colts could absolutely be a wildcard team. Let me look right now.
I mean, they're, what, three and three?

Speaker 1 The Colts could be a wild card team. Wow, Joe Flacco, if Joe Flacco takes, yeah, they're in the wild card right now.
They're seven seeds. Love that.

Speaker 1 If he took the Browns and the Colts to the playoffs in back-to-back years as the backup,

Speaker 1 that might be more impressive than a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 I actually think Joe Flacco has the opportunity to become back-to-back comeback player of the year. Yeah.
Which would that's a record that'll never be broken if it happens. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That he could

Speaker 1 that, yeah. Keep playing Joe Flacco.
For us. For us.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up. Packers 34, Cardinals 13.
Packers kick the shit out of the Cardinals. We said it on Friday, Jordan Love is going to be under center more, and he was.
And you saw it.

Speaker 1 That Christian Watson touchdown. That was vintage Jordan Love

Speaker 1 under center, play-action pass. He had four touchdowns.
He looks all the way back.

Speaker 1 For the first two games back from his injury, he had slow starts. He did not today.
So it feels like the Packers, that's totally taken care of. The Packers, though, we alluded to this.

Speaker 1 The NFC North is so good. The Packers are the first team ever through six weeks to be 4-2 and last in the division.

Speaker 4 Yeah, every team is 4-2 or better.

Speaker 4 Right now, they have the four highest point differentials in the entire NFL. Yeah.
All in that division. So the Vikings are plus 63.
The Lions plus 60. The Bears plus 47.
The Packers plus 41.

Speaker 4 The second best division, when you add up all those numbers together, the second best division is the AFC West with a plus 20 total.

Speaker 1 And I just said

Speaker 4 the Packers are in last with a plus 41.

Speaker 1 Yeah, on

Speaker 1 aggregate, the NFC North is 17-5 overall and a plus 211 point differential. Yeah, it's crazy.
It's nuts. Iron sharpens iron.
But yeah, the Packers, and here's the thing with the Packers, too.

Speaker 1 Their defense is really good. And that was a smart move.
Jeff Haffley bringing him in.

Speaker 1 Last year, the Packers had 18 turnovers forced on defense. That's the entire season.
This year, they have 17 through the first six weeks of the season. It's pretty wild.
They're taking the ball away.

Speaker 1 They had three fumbles in the second half, forced fumbles on the Cardinals. And yeah, they're a scary, good team.

Speaker 1 Like, Jordan Love looked fine, and all his receiver Dobbs, obviously, that was a weird situation last week. He comes back, two touchdowns.
Christian Watson comes back faster than we expected.

Speaker 1 He scores a touchdown.

Speaker 1 They're good. I don't know what else to say.
They're good. Jordan Love's very good.

Speaker 4 The Packers are definitely good. No interceptions today, though.
Have they fallen off?

Speaker 1 The defense. That's true.
Yeah. Think about it.
Yeah, the Cardinals are.

Speaker 1 That was a very classic Cardinals spot of the biggest win they've had in a long time against the 49ers that second half last week, having to fly all the way to Green Bay and then just an absolute stinker of a performance.

Speaker 1 13 penalties, three fumbles, just a stinker.

Speaker 4 So because they lost this, it doesn't matter what they do in their next game. The Cardinals will have gone three years without winning back-to-back football games.
Wow. Three calendar years.

Speaker 4 That's insane. Pretty crazy.
I admire the consistency, actually. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You consistently inconsistency.

Speaker 4 You win a game, just don't watch the next week doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Just bet against them. Yeah.
But yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 I'm worried about the Packers. Well, I'm worried about every, I mean, the NSC North is just really good.

Speaker 6 Had they not there been NFC North games?

Speaker 1 There have. That's why the Packers are last.
They lost to the Vikings. So the Packers are 4-2, but they're 0-1 in the NFC North.
That's why technically they're last. The Bears are also 4-2.

Speaker 1 The Lions are 4-1, and then the Vikings are 5-0.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, it's crazy, the schedule. The Bears don't play their first NFC North game until week 10.

Speaker 1 And they play all six of their NFC North games down the stretch.

Speaker 6 Offend of the year.

Speaker 1 That's why you had to win these games, Hank. And that's why they were must-wins.
That's why these are.

Speaker 1 And we got a couple more must-wins going against the Cardinals and the Patriots after the Commanders game. Got to must-win them.
Got to put the tag on them. These Packers are really good.

Speaker 1 I don't know what else to say. It hurts me to say it.
Jordan Love, undercenter, is a weapon.

Speaker 4 He's doing his fuck shit where he throws off his back foot doing fadeaways.

Speaker 4 And he's the best in the NFL throwing fadeaways.

Speaker 1 It's so frustrating because when he throws the fadeaway, it just 100% of the time ends up being a touchdown.

Speaker 4 There's always somebody down there. Watching, him and Kirk Cousins have like the two opposite fadeaways.

Speaker 4 When Kirk Cousins does a fadeaway, he like turtles as he throws it and starts running away from the guy that's going to sack him.

Speaker 4 When Jordan Love does it, he fades away off his back foot and throws it at a perfect angle that lands in his receiver's hand. Yeah.
He can catch it.

Speaker 1 Oh, here's a good one looking ahead. You want to play whose line is anyway? We're going to pull up DraftKings, Hank.

Speaker 1 Again, your phone? I got it. Is dead?

Speaker 6 It's out there.

Speaker 1 What do you mean it's out there?

Speaker 1 It's out there. No distractions.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're doing that as a thing? He's doing

Speaker 4 it. A digital cleanse.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 This is a great game next week. Packers versus Texans.
In Green Bay. Whose line is it anyway? DraftKings.

Speaker 6 In Green Bay, Packsers versus Texans. I'm going to go

Speaker 6 Packers minus two.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say two and a half. Okay.

Speaker 4 Find it for us.

Speaker 4 My phone's loading. It's been loading.

Speaker 6 Also, the hot news. I have it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, go ahead. Give it to us.
Yeah, give it to us, Max. Wait.
AFT, you want to do a guess? Yeah, so what's... Okay, they're in Green Bay.
Yeah, Texans at Texans at Texans at Packers.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say Packers minus one.

Speaker 2 It is the Packers minus three.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay, the full three.

Speaker 1 Packers are good.

Speaker 6 The hot new play, the Packers did it, the Bears did it, and then I saw that the Rams had done it last week as the

Speaker 6 play action, pump fake, and then just throw it to the wide open tight end in the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 It's pump fake left, pump fake right, tight end down the seam. Yeah, the Bears scored a touchdown with that to Cole Komet, and then a Packers fan was like, Oh, we did that last year.

Speaker 1 I just said, Cool, dude, you want a fucking cookie? Well, you can't fucking do the same play.

Speaker 1 They invented it, probably was McVay, it's probably

Speaker 1 invented it.

Speaker 4 It's probably college play, yeah.

Speaker 6 It's a hot play.

Speaker 1 Packers fans fucking suck.

Speaker 10 Try to steal all my joy.

Speaker 4 Hank, I want to hear what your best plays are:

Speaker 6 Sharkwheel?

Speaker 4 Hottest plays?

Speaker 1 Flea Flicker.

Speaker 6 The Julie Metalman.

Speaker 2 The Tyler Warren play on the Penn State Tyler Warren player.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was rad.

Speaker 1 That was awesome.

Speaker 6 Four verts.

Speaker 6 I like rugby. I'm with you on the rugby.

Speaker 2 Did you see that play, Hank?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Andy Coldenick drew up.

Speaker 1 Tyler Warren, the tight end for the Penn State, snapped the ball from. He was basically the.

Speaker 4 He was the tight end or the tackle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was the tackle. He's the left tackle.

Speaker 1 He was all the way on the end, and he snapped the ball and then went and ran down the field. How is that legal? He was an eligible receiver.
He wasn't, he wasn't stable.

Speaker 1 Does the center have to snap the ball? No.

Speaker 6 Anyone on the line can snap the ball?

Speaker 4 You have to have a certain number of players that are on the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. Look at the play, Hank.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was awesome. It was also such a cool play that they didn't even, it got overshadowed how sick the

Speaker 1 catch was.

Speaker 4 It's a great play.

Speaker 1 I think he was technically the center in this play. That's what they did.

Speaker 4 They have five guys on the line of scrimmage. Yeah, he was the center.

Speaker 1 Because they listed it. He was like all the positions he played.
And they're like, yeah, he played center.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he was in the middle. He just didn't have anyone on his left side.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. It's sick.
So, is that one of your favorite plays? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 Annexation of Puerto Rico.

Speaker 4 Five plays. Nice.
Hank's hop. Nice one.
Nice one.

Speaker 1 What about the fake punt punt?

Speaker 6 That's never been done.

Speaker 1 But it's still going to be one of your favorite plays.

Speaker 2 My dad says this all the time about punts, I'm meaning to say it. Every time I watch a football game with my dad, he always says, why don't they just kick it without catching it? So if a punter...

Speaker 1 Oh, I like it.

Speaker 2 If they just hit it out of the air.

Speaker 1 I like it. Like that snap.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Like they also just like, like, kind of like you're hitting a pitch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you just threw it high.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you hit high and you just kick it.

Speaker 1 I like that. I don't think it would work.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like it too. Is there any advantage to doing it?

Speaker 4 You get it off quicker?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get it all quicker. Unblockable.

Speaker 1 We also had in the Oregon, Ohio State.

Speaker 6 I like this. I like this spot.

Speaker 1 Which doesn't work anymore in the NFL because they changed the rule. But I don't think they did it on purpose.

Speaker 1 They kind of took credit for it on purpose afterwards, but the organ kicker just tried to kick a squib kick and kicked it so hard off of the Ohio State player that it ended up being an onside and they got recovered.

Speaker 4 I think they might have done it on purpose. I don't know.
Can you watch how the kicker runs up to the ball and then his reaction afterwards? I think it was, it was executed perfectly.

Speaker 4 It hit the guy right in his, right in his chest, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a hard thing to do on purpose, though. It is.

Speaker 1 I think he just did a great job of taking credit for

Speaker 1 something awesome happening.

Speaker 4 Putting 12 guys on the field on purpose.

Speaker 1 That's on purpose. purpose that's awesome that's the old buddy ryan polish goal line yes um okay uh next up texans patriots texans 41 patriots 21 mayday hank

Speaker 6 what do we think it was a fun game did you have fun rooting for a rookie quarterback i did have fun i did have a moment of of fear when drake may went down he he did get pressured a lot he did you know get thrown into the fire but

Speaker 6 he threw a couple really nice deep balls, a couple mistakes, but it was exciting.

Speaker 1 Give him a grade.

Speaker 4 I process things by hearing grades. So, Hank the Scout watches Drake May today.
What's the letter grade?

Speaker 6 I'm going to give Drake May a

Speaker 6 solid B-.

Speaker 1 I thought he was more like a B-plus because,

Speaker 1 one, you're.

Speaker 6 Bad interception.

Speaker 1 Bad interception, but that's rookie quarterbacks. He threw three touchdowns.
Three touchdowns. The touchdown to Kayshawn Boute was sick.

Speaker 1 Also, he just proved what my thought was that Jacoby Brissette, everyone's saying the Hanks of the world being like, can't put in Drake May. He's going to get hurt.
He's going to get hurt.

Speaker 1 Jacoby Brissette was so bad. That was why he was getting hit so often and looked like he was getting hurt every play.
The offense looked way better.

Speaker 6 It did look better.

Speaker 6 He was still not getting a lot of time to throw balls off.

Speaker 4 Hammered on that one.

Speaker 6 He needed to step up and move around a lot. But yeah, it looked better.

Speaker 1 But he can do that, so the line looked a little bit better than it has with Jacoby Brissette, where he can't throw it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought he, like, he obviously made mistakes. And yeah, the interception, the one that he just floated was bad, but he's a rookie quarterback.
And he's getting his feet wet.

Speaker 1 This is what you want, Hank, because now the more like lumps he takes, he's going to win a game sometime in the next couple months or so where it's going to be like, oh, shit, he's starting to put it all together.

Speaker 1 And then next year, you have all the excitement being like, he played and he did okay.

Speaker 4 So, right now, here's who he's got next. He's got the Jaguars, then the Jets, Titans, Bears, Rams, Dolphins, Colts, Cardinals.
Not a bad run. Not a bad run.
Not a bad little stretch.

Speaker 1 Not a bad little stretch.

Speaker 4 I would say he played pretty good. And you should be excited.
You should be excited. You got a new toy.
You get to watch your new toy every Sunday.

Speaker 1 Three touchdown throws in the first start. It's pretty crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 You guys know what that's like.

Speaker 4 Stop it.

Speaker 1 We're just fine. I'm fine.
We're trying to gash you up.

Speaker 4 Big Cat, what's your record? 4-2.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too. We're trying to gash you up.
Hank, are you still drought? Droughts get ugly.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we are still droughts in first. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're definitely going to ruin the vibes of

Speaker 1 trying to be civil about all of our quarterbacks. No, you know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 He's had one game and he's already doing it.

Speaker 4 You know what's happening? It's going to happen. Hank's going to try to play spoiler.
You guys are too home.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't exist.

Speaker 4 You're going to try to play spoiler when me and Big Cat are going to be fighting for the offs down the stretch, and you're just going to be trying to psych us out and and hope that one of us doesn't make the playoffs no i want success for both of you guys i've always said that yeah uh i thought he played well so did i look clean jerseys look great love those jerseys they need to bring back the uh

Speaker 6 the 90s scott zolak blue ones next but

Speaker 6 yeah the team it was it was a fun it was a it was a better you know sunday than think yeah all the other ones this year think about what would have happened if jacoby brissette started this game probably would have scored like seven points we also just had some like two really bad fumbles by receivers that that not Drake May's fault, but it could have been closer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Texans.

Speaker 4 I feel like the receivers aren't used to running with the ball because they haven't had that many catches with Jacoby. Yeah, it's a foreign they're getting used to it.
Like, what is this in my hand?

Speaker 1 Hold it. My idea that the Texans might actually end up benefiting long-term from Nico Collins being out.
This Tank Dell had his best game of the season. Joe Mixon was awesome again.

Speaker 1 He missed a few games, but

Speaker 4 he looked fast out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had 103 yards and a touchdown. So I think the Texans are going to be better off.
Two touchdowns. He caught one, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Texas are a very good team, so you can't, and their defense is ferocious. Did Will Anderson have three sacks?

Speaker 4 He had three sacks, a bunch of pressures.

Speaker 4 Another fun stat here: the Lighthouse.

Speaker 4 The Lighthouse has not won a game since Hank has touched it.

Speaker 1 It's all right.

Speaker 2 Three building seasons. Memes also just pointed out a stat back here that are 1 in 11 since they built the lighthouse.
The new lighthouse.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 And the old lighthouse is the most successful lighthouse in the history of lighthouses.

Speaker 4 And that's not even up for debate.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Tear it down.

Speaker 2 No comment?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, at least we have a stadium where people aren't getting injured every time they play there.

Speaker 4 He's talking about my turf. Talking about my grass.

Speaker 1 Soldier Fields, nothing. Yeah, no, it's not.
It's not really a brag about it.

Speaker 6 So if you want to make fun of a couple of little knick-knacks, that's fine as long as it's a playing surface, which is

Speaker 6 what our franchise top five draft pick is going to be playing on and what really matters. That's fine.

Speaker 2 So you admit the Lighthouse is just a little knickknack?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's deflecting.

Speaker 6 No, I think they're just trying to. Why does he?

Speaker 6 The reason the Patriots haven't won a game in the past couple years at home is not because of the Lighthouse. But I understand it's a good little diss, good little dig.

Speaker 4 You're going to be a hater right now. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 I'm going to call timeout to Hank's hate.

Speaker 1 Timeout. Timeout.
Timeout. Timeout.
Hank's hate. Timeout.

Speaker 4 Okay, time in. You can resume hating.

Speaker 6 No, I'm not hating. I'm just that it's fine.
It's fine. I get it.
You got to get your digs in when you can. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Listen, Hank, you know me. I want the Patriots.

Speaker 6 Drake May, as far as I'm concerned, Rawl Rudig really hurts. Drake is 0-1 at the Lighthouse.

Speaker 6 The previous record does not count.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 4 Nobody wants the Pats to be successful more than me and Big Cat.

Speaker 1 We want Drake May to be good.

Speaker 4 The NFL is better when the Patriots are a dynasty and nobody else is having fun. It's good.

Speaker 1 We gave him a B plus. True.
You gave him a B minus.

Speaker 6 How many other NFL teams have TV shows made after him?

Speaker 4 It's a great show.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Who would play Drake May?

Speaker 4 I feel like Tim Tebow would.

Speaker 1 John Williams. That would really fuck everyone up.
Tim Tebow plays Drake May. Yeah.
The Texans are really good. I'm excited for this.
I'm a bad pick This Texans-Packers game is going to be great.

Speaker 1 That's a measuring stick game.

Speaker 4 It's going to run for both of them, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 Because I do think both are Super Bowl contending teams.

Speaker 1 And the Texans are, I mean, in the AFC, it feels like right now it's them, the Chiefs, and the Ravens. Maybe, am I wrong? Am I missing someone?

Speaker 4 Bills, maybe, but they didn't look good.

Speaker 1 Bills have to, yeah. We'll see what happens.
The Bills have to win on Monday night.

Speaker 1 They've had two bad games in a row. So,

Speaker 1 all right.

Speaker 1 The afternoon games.

Speaker 1 Lions 47, Cowboys 9. Jerry Jones' 82nd birthday.

Speaker 4 Pretty bad birthday.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy.

Speaker 4 Do you think he had different sets of strippers to call for like happy birthday strippers and then sad birthday strippers?

Speaker 1 No, I think he's just called them all.

Speaker 4 He's going to spend way more money when he's sad probably than if he was happy.

Speaker 1 Such a shame that he had such a bad birthday, but holy shit, the Cowboys, I think, are just bad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we'll talk about the Lions. The Lions are very, very good.
But the Cowboys, they're just ass. Dak is ass.

Speaker 4 Especially at home.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 At home.

Speaker 4 They,

Speaker 4 since, I don't want to bring Hank up again, but since Hank went to Dallas, they've gotten their ass kicked at home.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's kind of crazy because they're losing tough.

Speaker 1 Rich Eisen treated out the

Speaker 1 last four home games for the Dallas Cowboys at halftime. These are halftime scores.
They were down 27-7, 35-16, 21-6, 21-6, 27-6.

Speaker 1 That's 110-35. Yeah.
The last four halftime scores.

Speaker 2 When was the last time Hank was there?

Speaker 4 He was there in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 The 27-7 one, I think? Yeah. Duckboats.
Got it. 27-7-1.

Speaker 4 So in their last four home games, the Cowboys have allowed 167 points.

Speaker 4 That's the third most over four-game span at home in NFL history.

Speaker 4 In the history of the league.

Speaker 1 You just hate to see it. You hate to have to throw these stats out.
Here's another one. The Cowboys have 117 points this year.

Speaker 1 Brandon Aubrey has 60.

Speaker 1 He has more than half of their points.

Speaker 1 Here's another. Dak his ass.

Speaker 4 Here's another interesting one.

Speaker 1 You should just say Dak his ass after every one of these stats.

Speaker 4 In 2010,

Speaker 4 he's not paid that much. It's not like you expect much.
No, that's true. In 2010, Wade Phillips got fired after he lost to Green Bay by 38 points.
It was 45-7.

Speaker 4 And the Cowboys just lost at home by 38 points. Now, Jerry Jones.
Dak his ass. Dak his ass.
Jerry Jones says that he's not considering it.

Speaker 4 He told the press several times he's not considering firing Mike McCarthy after this game. He hasn't even thought about it.

Speaker 1 Him saying he's not considering means he's considering it. Because you have to come up with that.

Speaker 1 You have to use your brain to say the words, I'm not considering it, which would make it, you're considering the thought of it.

Speaker 4 But you didn't let me finish. He said twice, I'm not considering it.
And then he said, so we're clear,

Speaker 4 I'm not considering it. Ah.

Speaker 1 But he has considered it.

Speaker 4 He's considered it at least three times. That's my old think about it.

Speaker 1 I want to

Speaker 1 patent the phrase think about it because when you tell someone to think about it, the first thing they do is think about it.

Speaker 4 They got to think about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you own them mentally.

Speaker 4 So it was his 82nd birthday, and he said afterwards, I think the worst part was just the feeling of the team having fun at our expense. Detroit having fun at our expense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, well, one last thing.

Speaker 1 I wonder.

Speaker 1 Dak is obviously not.

Speaker 4 Well, he's ass.

Speaker 1 He's ass, but he's not.

Speaker 1 You could do worse than Dak,

Speaker 1 but he's had some big-time games where he's been ass,

Speaker 1 and he had another one of those weird, like, not on the same page as CeeDee Lamb jump balls in the corner of the end zone that kind of started the whole jump balls. Like,

Speaker 1 that's the thing, though, is he, it's like his numbers were bad today. But remember in the Packers game when everyone's like, oh, well, the playoff game, oh, well, his numbers weren't so bad.

Speaker 1 He put him in a hole that basically they weren't able to get out of. He was horrible that.
The Cowboys' defense is bad. The Cowboys' defense got absolutely torched today.

Speaker 1 And you pay Dak to

Speaker 1 stay in these type of games. Yeah.
And makes big-time plays. He hasn't been doing it.

Speaker 4 I think it's valid to say that their defense is dealing with a lot of significant injuries. Like, their defense shouldn't be as bad as it is right now.

Speaker 1 They were on quit watch.

Speaker 4 If they had their starts, they quit today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were on quit watch. Everyone was standing.

Speaker 1 There was one run, I think it was Jameer Gibbs in the third quarter, because this was the longest game ever, where everyone was standing upright and no one was trying to tackle him.

Speaker 1 And the Lions, so yeah,

Speaker 1 they were having fun. Ben Johnson was emptying the clip on them.
They had three different plays. None of them actually ended up working.
One of them was called back for penalty.

Speaker 1 Three different plays where a lineman was targeted for a pass. They even had Dan Skipper line up as an actual wide receiver, which was awesome.

Speaker 4 They had Dan Skipper report as eligible on the first offensive play of the game. Yeah.
And that was a big fuck you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They tried to throw a touchdown pass to Panay Sewell. That one was called back.
But it was, they were doing all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 They were scoring touchdowns when they were already up 40 or whatever it was, 35.

Speaker 1 The Lions are offensively so fucking good. And Jared Goff has basically played perfect football the last two games.

Speaker 1 He is last two games, 36 for 43, 601 yards, five touchdowns, zero interceptions, passer ratings of 155.8 and 153.8. This is the first time since 1962 the Lions have 40 points in consecutive games.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I think they're the best roster in the NFC by far. Offensively.
Offensively.

Speaker 1 Because obviously Aiden Hutchinson getting hurt was a big part of this game, which sucks immensely.

Speaker 4 That was bad. It looked like it was...

Speaker 4 It looked in real time like it was a compound fracture. I don't think that it was.
I think he snapped his tibia. They did like emergency surgery.

Speaker 4 He's out for the year, which sucks because he was probably, he was on track to be defensive player of the year. And he's having that kind of an impact.
And he felt he... You can't replace him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like the heart and soul of their defense. He's the motor behind it all.
So that was like

Speaker 1 one part you're watching this game, and the Lions' uniforms, by the way, pop so much. I know they changed them.
Well, I didn't know until I asked our Lions fan Matt Henkel.

Speaker 1 I was like, are these brighter? He's like, yeah, we changed them. I missed that.
They look awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Especially when the Cowboys are wearing their very drab blue at home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The blue of the Lions just shits on it. Did you guys see this one? Did you hear about this one? The Cowboys logo.

Speaker 1 Someone sent me this meme.

Speaker 1 It's actually

Speaker 1 a rating.

Speaker 1 One star. Oh no.
Oh, no. One star out of five.

Speaker 4 You know who else made people wear one star?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones.
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones. But yeah, Aiden Hucks.

Speaker 4 Also, the sun in the stadium that Jerry Jones designed is so funny. Thumbs up.
It's so funny. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 Jerry Jones designed basically just a huge monument to himself in the middle of Arlington, Texas. And he didn't stop to think, like, what time do we play football games?

Speaker 4 Where's the sun when we play football games? Oh, yeah. It's going to be directly in people's faces.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Directly in people's faces.

Speaker 6 I saw someone say, too, and they have events there, like concerts that aren't football. They have curtains.

Speaker 1 Curtains, yeah. Why wouldn't you do that? The pictures look sick.
Well, he wants Scott to watch the Cowboys. That was the old stadium.
Yep. They had the opening there.

Speaker 1 It sucks really bad, though, for the Lions with Dayton Hutchinson. I

Speaker 1 fun trade that I don't think is even possible, but would be awesome. awesome.
Why don't they trade it for Max Crosby? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Raiders are going to be. The Raiders are bad.
We'll get to the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Son Reddick. Son Reddick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but Max Crosby has ties to the area. You always have to think about that.

Speaker 1 Aiden Hutchinson going down is obviously devastating for the Lions defense. And fans, as good as this game was, you're walking away being like, damn, what just happened?

Speaker 1 Eastern Michigan, Max Crosby,

Speaker 1 coming back to Detroit area. But

Speaker 1 I guess the only silver lining is it happened before the trade deadline, so maybe you can figure out a way to do something because you are a Super Bowl-ready team right this second.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you can't replace him. He's so good.
He's playing such a high level. You're not going to find anybody out there that is going to replace Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 4 I mean, Max Crosby is probably about as close as you can get. He's elite at what he does.

Speaker 4 I still think that the Lions are good enough to still, we can still say I think they have the best roster in the NFC.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just don't, I think their defense is going to be

Speaker 1 their defense is going to struggle. Like, that was, that is the heart and soul of their defense.
Yeah. And they, they were a little thin on the defensive line anyway.

Speaker 1 Um, that, their offense is just so loaded.

Speaker 1 And, and Tim Patrick has basically just become Josh Reynolds, which is funny because Tim Patrick was on the Broncos, and now Josh Reynolds is on the Broncos, but he, we, going into the season, we're like, the Lions have all these weapons.

Speaker 1 Everything should work. They don't have

Speaker 1 that third receiver that should be able to get some of these yards for him, and Tim Patrick looks like that guy for him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jameson is never going to be that guy. That's like a possession receiver.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's starting to run different routes.

Speaker 4 Although, if you've seen him the last few weeks, he has learned how to turn,

Speaker 4 which is important. And so, he is doing a couple comebacks.
They're using him in different ways besides just like an end-around, a reverse, or just a deep shot. They are mixing it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had him on like a slant for about 10 yards today. They was like, oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 They're slowly introducing him to turning. That's what they did with DK.
Yeah. It worked out pretty well for him so far.
But yeah, the Lions on offense today,

Speaker 4 the shit that they were doing, it was like part trolling, but I think it's like Dan Campbell, he tells Ben Johnson what plays he wants to see, like what guys he wants to see featured.

Speaker 4 Like he is mapping his entire offensive game plan around who he wants to give the game ball to in an emotional ceremony afterwards.

Speaker 1 Well, the crazy thing about today and how good the Lions are is they had six guys go for 50-plus yards on line of scrimmage, and Amon Ra wasn't one of them. Yeah.
That's how crazy.

Speaker 1 That's how talented they are. Yeah, it's nuts.

Speaker 4 And that the play play to Panay Sewell, this is what we said. I think we said that last Wednesday after Travis Kelsey did his rugby shit in the Monday Night Football game.

Speaker 4 The next iteration is going to be doing that play, but hitting a lineman that's running downhill. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's what they tried to do with Panay Sewell, who, by the way, looked like a running back when he got it, tucked the ball, dove for the goal line.

Speaker 4 That firmly stands as one of those plays that's like, it was so cool. Pick the fucking flag.
Yeah, pick the flag up. Pick the flag up.
You deprived us of a football moment. Yeah.
Referees.

Speaker 1 And the flea flicker to Laporta. The flea flicker was sick.
Yeah, it's just, yeah, the Lions are a juggernaut on offense. They're very fun to watch.

Speaker 4 Also, it was nice seeing Cooper Rush is still around getting in for whatever the opposite of a victory cigar is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Cooper Rush and Hennon Hooker. Yeah, that was

Speaker 1 the end of this game.

Speaker 4 Hen and Hooker got in at the end. And I realized when I saw Cooper Rush out there, Jerry Jones has a thing for ginger backup quarterbacks.
Yep. He's got Brandon.
He had Brandon Whedon. He had

Speaker 4 Andy Dalton, Cooper Rush, and Jason Garrett.

Speaker 4 The man just like he looks at a red-headed football player. He's like, that's my backup quarterback.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Such a shame they lost on his 82nd birthday. I know.
And in this way,

Speaker 1 they're not a good football team. No.
I don't.

Speaker 4 167 points is what they've allowed at home in the last four games.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 I don't know what. Maybe it's, I mean, they don't have depth.
They have a lot of injuries. They pay a lot of, they pay a lot of top end guys.
But yeah, they're just not a good football team. No.

Speaker 1 And it's such a shame.

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 hate every second.

Speaker 1 I hate to see it. Hate to see it.
Is that

Speaker 1 imagine like being, well,

Speaker 1 I guess you can't really say imagine being Jerry Jones for a million different reasons. But

Speaker 1 imagine being Jerry Jones. You buy the Cowboys.
We talked to Skip about this on Friday. You buy the Cowboys.
First five years that you buy the Cowboys, you win a Super Bowl, then you win two more.

Speaker 1 Never again. Yeah.
That's what he's facing right now.

Speaker 4 Because after the first five years, you think that it was you.

Speaker 1 And you think that it's going to happen all the time.

Speaker 4 Because you ran Jimmy Johnson off after he won a Super Bowl, and then you go back and you win another Super Bowl. With Barry Switzer, yeah.
With Barry Switzer, you think that it's you.

Speaker 4 You think that you're a system owner. You can plug and play anybody.

Speaker 1 Imagine telling Jerry Jones in 1995, you, hey, buddy, you've won your last Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 I actually think he would memes himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he would. He would block everyone on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Delete all his apps.

Speaker 1 Except Raya.

Speaker 1 All right. That was, yeah, Lions.
Lions are a juggernaut. Lions are juggernaut.
How are you feeling about the Cowboys sucking Max? You love it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's the best. I love when Dak just has these games where he just looks horrible.

Speaker 2 Some games he looks pretty good, and then there's games like this where it's just like, holy shit.

Speaker 4 It's what's so weird about Dak is he does have games where he looks like one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 4 And he just

Speaker 4 you can set your watch to it. Is that Eddie?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Eddie's on TV. Eddie's on TV right now.
Wait, no, that's not him right there. Oh, it's not?

Speaker 4 I thought that was Eddie.

Speaker 1 Definitely not Eddie Eddie right there. Oh, okay.
What?

Speaker 4 I just caught him out of the corner of my eye, and I thought that was Eddie.

Speaker 1 Eddie does do TV on.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait. Were you talking about there? Yeah.
Oh, we thought you were talking about Dave. You thought I was talking about Dave Wanstead? No, I know.
No, the guy with Dave Wanstett.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's there. Eddie's having a good time.
Yeah, he's doing Fox Chicago. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I was like, if that's not Eddie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Eddie's been doing, for people who don't know, Eddie's our coworker.

Speaker 1 He's doing,

Speaker 1 I think he does the Monday mornings I used to do like 10, 12 years ago that was brutal because I'd get hammered watching the Bears and then I would wake up at 5 in the morning and go do five minutes on Fox Chicago at 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's tough. And it was, I'd put on a sweater and I'd look so fat and stupid.
Yeah, and I'd just be like, I don't know. Eddie's looking good.
Yeah, Eddie looks good in this. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's on Fox Chicago.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 We were just talking about how Dak is ass. Dak is ass.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 6 Belichuk.

Speaker 1 Belchuk's going to fix it? Yeah. Max, are you.
Because you really hate the Cowboys. Of course, they're the worst.
Yeah. So this has got to feel good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 2 Every time the Cowboys have one of these games, it's just funny to just laugh at them. And they're just like, oh, this team fucking stinks.

Speaker 2 But obviously, no, but Micah Parsons' defense is going to look worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they've had three of these games this year. I know.
And they've all happened at home. You know what's crazy, though? And Hank was there.
Max, does this work? Well, that was the fourth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, right, right. That was the playoffs.
Right.

Speaker 4 As a fellow Cowboys hater, Max, does it worry you at all that

Speaker 4 in a season like this, the Cowboys defense playing this poorly, the team not looking good, Dak looking like ass,

Speaker 4 we're going to be deprived of having Cowboys fans think to themselves, like, this is our year, our team's awesome, and then having them shit to bed in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I want pain all the time, always, because they'll still get themselves up each week that, like, we're the Cowboys. We're the better team.
We're going to win this game.

Speaker 4 We're supposed to be the Cowboys. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I don't worry about that.

Speaker 2 And Hank was there four games ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was. He put his stink on him.
Yeah. It was a great time.
They have not won a game since. So, so the Lighthouse.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hank touching the Lighthouse.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 1 what's the memes? Can we get the full stats tomorrow, maybe in an image?

Speaker 4 Hank's teams. Hank's teams.

Speaker 1 Since going to the Cowboys, they're owned for at home.

Speaker 1 Since being the keeper of the Lighthouse, they haven't won a game at home.

Speaker 6 And then the picture of the graphic should be me and Missoula.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. This is a football show.

Speaker 1 This is a football show. I know you don't like football, man.
Thank you.

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Speaker 6 And we got 40 piece by Iowa.

Speaker 1 Oh, Washington the Huskies. Oh, damn.

Speaker 1 You did get 40 piece by Iowa.

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Speaker 1 Okay, last three games, Chargers 23, Broncos, 16. Jim Harbaugh has an arrhythmia of his heart, and thankfully he's okay.

Speaker 4 So Harbaugh himself said after he's 2-0 in arrhythmia games.

Speaker 1 2-0, and he said, I'm medically qualified to talk about it. That's what he said.
He also, I just love the Jim Harbaugh, like it was weird because we obviously saw the reports.

Speaker 1 Then John Harbaugh left his press conference early. So like, shit, something really wrong.
I just love the fact that Jim Harbaugh went to the blue tent before going into the locker room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a player.

Speaker 4 He's a player. He's a guy to get checked out by the guys.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so I also love the fact that he's keeping track of his record in Arrhythmia games. Yeah.
2-0 against him. Not the first time he's beaten AFib.

Speaker 4 If you talk to the NCAA, it's been a little bit dicey recently, but he's come out on top every single time.

Speaker 4 Now, it is, it's... In a sick way, it's funny that now the Chargers have their coach that's also listed on the injury report.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Because it's very Chargers, the way that their franchise has gone recently. But today was a good day for the Chargers.
Yeah. Good day.
At least a good first half.

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert back looks, I mean, he hasn't missed any games, but he didn't look like he was hampered by the ankle like he was last we saw him against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Started really fast. Also helps.
Bo Nick's was so bad in the first half. He was three for 10, 22 yards, one interception, 0.0 passing rating.
Yeah. And also, like, there was a bunch of injuries.

Speaker 1 Did Rashawn Slater go down again?

Speaker 1 I think he might have gotten banged up again. He might have come back in.
I know Patrick Sartan went out for the game.

Speaker 4 He got a concussion this year.

Speaker 1 That's a big loss for the Broncos defense because he's probably the best corner in the league. But

Speaker 1 Bo Nicks kind of put him in a hole that they didn't get out of, and the Chargers stepped on them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they put him away. But the Broncos they look better in the second half.
I can't figure out out the Broncos week to week. I think they're the most confusing team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 I think Bo Nix just does like half good, half bad every week.

Speaker 4 He's nixophrenic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He just can't. It's just,

Speaker 1 if it's the first half and the defense is firing, you're going to win the game. If it's the second half, you might be in a hole that you can't get out of.

Speaker 4 It's crazy because they beat the Bucs. They beat the Bucs in Tampa, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if the Bucs are.

Speaker 1 I don't have the Bucs rated that high.

Speaker 4 I think the Bucs are pretty good. I think they're good.

Speaker 1 I I wouldn't say they're like, I wouldn't say

Speaker 1 I'm not like, oh, they beat the Bucs like they beat the Chiefs or they beat the Lions or they beat the Ravens.

Speaker 4 I would say they're just below, like, yeah, they're below Lions, whatever that tier is. The second best tier in the NFC.
That's where the Bucs reside.

Speaker 4 I think, even though the Bucs beat the Lions, they're below that tier.

Speaker 4 You think they're below that tier?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you did tiers in the NFC,

Speaker 1 Lions and Vikings. Yep.

Speaker 1 Packers are in the next tier.

Speaker 1 Commanders might be. And 49ers.
I think the Bucs are below that.

Speaker 4 But they beat the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think they're right below that.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying the Bucs are bad. I just don't

Speaker 4 think the Bucks are bad.

Speaker 4 Imagine that Stephen Shea did not exist. I was just about to say that.

Speaker 2 What would you say about the Bucks?

Speaker 1 I would have the same feeling about the Bucs. I think they're the second best team in the NFC South.
I think the Falcons are better.

Speaker 2 No, they're not.

Speaker 1 They beat them. I don't think they're better.
Well, they literally played a game and they beat them.

Speaker 4 Would you say that the Niners are better than the Cardinals?

Speaker 1 The Niners are better than the Cardinals. The Niners are better than the Bucs, too.
But they played a game. Yeah, but the Niners also have a better record.

Speaker 4 The Cardinals beat them.

Speaker 1 The Niners have a better record than the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 The Falcons have a better record and they beat them.

Speaker 4 I think that the Bucs or whatever that's,

Speaker 4 regardless,

Speaker 1 the Broncos are a bit more than a year. The Broncos having a road win

Speaker 4 in Tampa Bay, rookie quarterback against Todd Bulls and doing all the weird blitzes and shit. That is a pretty impressive win.

Speaker 4 So the Broncos are capable of pulling these wins out of their asses against good teams.

Speaker 1 Their defense is good.

Speaker 4 Their defense is very good, but they also scored a shitload of points against the Bucs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But their defense is very good.
I just can't figure out the Broncos.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Bo Nix, I've seen a lot of Bonix.
I've watched a lot of Bo Nix football.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, he's been, we've watched Bo Nix on Saturdays since basically the start of part of my take. Yeah.
He's been like a constant.

Speaker 4 But he's still fun to watch. I still stand by that take.
That Bo Nix is electric. He's erratic.
He makes mistakes and successes going 100 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I guess any given Sunday. So who knows with the Bucs.
I mean, that was a game that the Bucs-Broncos game was a game that the Bucs came out very flat any given Sunday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This game, the Broncos came out flat, and the Chargers were the better team. It's because the jerseys.
The Chargers. The jerseys were an issue for the Broncos

Speaker 4 compared to last week where they wore the best uniform in the world. And then they come out wearing these muted oranges and blues.
It sucked. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 Do you think the Chargers are better than the Broncos? Because I do. So

Speaker 1 I think the broncos are like a frisky team that is probably not a playoff team i think maybe in the they're probably the third best team in their division i think they are the third best team i think the chargers they

Speaker 1 are certainly like riddled with injuries and they don't always have like their most talented guys on the field but i think that they're a more consistent football team also it's a rusty quarterback which i'm i'm like bonex deserves he he had a bad first half he played well in the second half that's what i'm saying about the broncos i'm not saying the broncos are good i'm not saying that at all in fact i'm saying i i can't figure them out yeah i don't know what the broncos are i think they're exactly like a 500 type team they're like crazy inconsistent and when they're bad they can look like one of the worst teams in the nfl yeah and then when they're at their best it's like holy shit this team is is feisty and i do think the chargers are good i think the chargers were really banged up when they lost to the steelers and the chiefs and now that they had a bye week and and got healthier i think the chargers I would feel more confident being like the Chargers will be a team that's in the playoffs than the Broncos.

Speaker 4 So I have a question for you, big cat, about our good friend Jim Harbaugh. Now that he knows that he's 2-0 in arrhythmia games, he's not going to try to give himself arrhythmias before games, right?

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I think it's a pretty serious medical thing.

Speaker 1 He had a procedure in 2012 that fixed it, so he can do that again.

Speaker 1 My doctor,

Speaker 1 who's just, he's not my doctor, but he tells me stuff, Dr. Dan, who once put Roan in a cast, even though he didn't have a broken arm for something we did on the yaks, he Dr.

Speaker 1 Dan said that he had a procedure, he can do it again, or he can go on medicine.

Speaker 4 So he had like an ablation done where they like shocked him.

Speaker 1 I'm going to pull up Dr. Dan because he actually gave me the full breakdown that was very, very much needed.

Speaker 1 Too long didn't read. Harbaugh most likely has a random heart palpitations, rapid heartbeat, which he has had in the past.

Speaker 1 He might need to get a minor procedure and miss a day of practice or go on medica. He won't miss practice or go on medication for it.

Speaker 1 But since he came back on the sideline, it's unlikely it was ever a dangerous or life-threatening situation. Yeah.
So that's good. 2-0.

Speaker 4 2-0.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm concerned. I think if they got to the Super Bowl, he would maybe think about doing it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if it happens, like if this was a

Speaker 4 playoff game and he had the arrhythmia beforehand, he'd be like, you know what? Let's just ride this out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's play this game. Broncos at Saints.
Oh, yeah. This is the Thursday night game.

Speaker 4 Broncos Saints?

Speaker 1 Who's on this anyway? So that's Sean Payton.

Speaker 4 Sean Payton on the graphic for this one. Kevin James.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you got your phone back?

Speaker 1 So that lasted a week.

Speaker 4 It's Broncos at Saints.

Speaker 1 Broncos at Saints.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say Saints

Speaker 4 minus two.

Speaker 4 Saints minus three.

Speaker 1 I would take the Broncos if I could be guaranteed Patrick Shattan was playing.

Speaker 2 What did you say? Oh, wait, no, Hank, you got it. Sorry, sorry.
Two.

Speaker 1 Draft Kings.

Speaker 1 It is Saints plus one.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 4 I think we got to hammer the Saints.

Speaker 1 We got to take the Saints. I guess, yeah, that makes sense.
Dennis. Really good defense against a rookie head coach.

Speaker 1 I mean, rookie quarterback. I guess you can make the same argument for the Saints, although the Saints did not look good defensively today.

Speaker 4 You couldn't say the really good head coach part for the Saints.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it feels like maybe the Broncos will win this game to keep us off the...

Speaker 4 Keep us off the scent? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Keep us off the scent.

Speaker 4 Like, what would you expect the Broncos to do in this game?

Speaker 1 I'll tell you right now, they're going to beat the Saints and then they'll lose to the Panthers. If we're going to go

Speaker 1 on this. Yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can see that.

Speaker 1 And then somehow maybe beat the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Sean Payton's going to break out all that, you know, the weird shit that he pulls out every now and again, where he has a kick returner lie down in the end zone to try to blend into the letters so they can't see him when he's returning it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Sean Payton's going to empty the bag.

Speaker 1 And Bo Nix could end up being good because I do think Sean Payton is good at coaching quarterbacks. I just, this game, like the first half, Bo Nix put them in a hole that they couldn't get out of.

Speaker 1 And that was that was kind of it. Because

Speaker 1 they made it interesting at the end.

Speaker 4 It was very interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were. Double onside kick.
Yeah, so I don't know. Broncos, I still think their defense is elite, especially if Patrick Chatan comes back.

Speaker 1 All right, next game. Falcons 38, Panthers 20.

Speaker 1 I got a question.

Speaker 1 Why don't the Panthers just put Bryce Young back in?

Speaker 4 Yeah, at the end of the game, when it was pretty far out of hand, I thought the same thing. They were just kind of driving for no real real particular reason.

Speaker 1 Like, Andy Dalton is, the offense isn't really the problem with the Panthers. It was when Bryce Young, I get that.

Speaker 1 Their defense is so bad that I don't really know who can play quarterback that would be able to have them win games. They're not going to win games.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you just have Bryce Young and see if maybe he can get somehow better? I know that it's probably,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 you're wishing on a lottery ticket, but what's the point in

Speaker 1 not playing him when you're not going to do anything this year?

Speaker 4 I have a theory. I think that the Panthers might be holding out hope that they can get something for him at the trade deadline.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what it would be.

Speaker 4 In my mind, since I've gone so long without watching Bryce Young play, I don't think he's as shitty as I did in his last game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, he's gotten better in my dumb brain over the last couple weeks because I haven't seen him play.

Speaker 4 I think the Panthers are hoping that other GMs around the league forget how bad Bryce Young was and then they're willing to give up, I don't know, like a fifth-round pick for him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you see the clip of Andy Dalton teaching Bryce Young how to do fist pumps? No, it's very cute. I didn't see it.
He was showing them how to, like, you don't go up, you go like this.

Speaker 4 I saw them joking around a little bit on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were frisky in this game in the first half.

Speaker 4 Bryce was smiling. Yeah.
I don't think I've seen Bryce Young smile in the NFL before.

Speaker 1 I just don't understand. Like, you're.
It's not a Colts situation where the Colts could conceivably go to the playoffs with Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 The Panthers are not going to go to the playoffs with Andy Andy Dalton.

Speaker 1 That's not a knock on Andy Dalton.

Speaker 1 He played okay today, and their offense did okay. Their defense is just so, so bad.
So why wouldn't you just have Bryce Young play if

Speaker 1 you're probably going to get rid of him anyway?

Speaker 1 Like the gambler me would be like, what if a one in a hundred chance he just something clicks and he's good?

Speaker 4 I think what they got to do is put him in for like a

Speaker 4 special design trick play that you know is going to work.

Speaker 1 Get his confidence.

Speaker 4 Get one good play and then take him out again. Yeah.
You're like, Bryce, we're now in the business of hearing offers for Bryce Young. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't think that there's any real, they're not going to bring him back in to try to just like win football games, I don't think. I think that they're going to.

Speaker 1 But you're not going to win football games without him. Right.

Speaker 4 Well, this was like the whole argument for should you bench Bryce Young to begin with.

Speaker 1 Right, which I kind of understood to begin with just because it was week, whatever, three, and you're 0-2, and you, hey, maybe Andy Dalton is so good that you start winning games, and they won the first game that Andy Dalton played.

Speaker 1 Now it's week six, you're one and five, you're not going to do anything this year. You're further down along the line.
Put them back in.

Speaker 4 I think they might be taking calls.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The Falcons, by the way, are the second seed right now if the playoff started today.

Speaker 4 The Falcons are, they got a lot of weapons.

Speaker 1 I think the Falcons are good. I don't know.
I mean, their pass rush still doesn't get sacks.

Speaker 1 They should have beat the Chiefs. They should have beat the Chiefs.
But then you could also do the argument that they should have lost to the Eagles

Speaker 1 and maybe the Box.

Speaker 1 And maybe the Saints.

Speaker 1 I guess the one good thing about the Falcons today is they played a game that wasn't a heart attack.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was good for them. Also, the drum got broken again.
Oh, no. And I think now that brings the Panthers to 0-3 in games when the drum gets broken.

Speaker 1 They keep pounding drum. Oh, no.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Saints offense, two good running backs.

Speaker 4 Sorry, Falcons offense, two great running backs. Drake London is a beast.

Speaker 4 Kyle Pitts is getting the ball sometimes.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I'm not. So that's good.

Speaker 1 I'm out on Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 4 It's nice to see that.

Speaker 4 Not DJ Moore.

Speaker 4 Mooney. Yeah.
Mooney looks good too. He looks better than he has.
Ray Ray. They're doing everything.

Speaker 4 And Kirk looks better. It feels like every week Kirk Cousins looks like he can, I don't know if it's put more pressure on that foot or just move quicker off that foot.
But he looks healthier.

Speaker 1 This was a game, too, where

Speaker 1 I felt like the Falcons could easily lose this game if they were the old Falcons, just because that would make sense, like a Thursday night thriller.

Speaker 1 They come back, they beat the Bucs, and what happened? They just lost.

Speaker 1 In the first half, it kind of, I think they were down 7-0 in this game, and it was within one score in the first half, all the way to like the third quarter.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they took care of business. So good for the Falcons.
They took care of business. They ran the ball well.

Speaker 1 They scored, I think, more points today than they ever did in the previous regime's era.

Speaker 1 So their offense is, I mean, the Panthers can do that. You're going to love playing the Panthers, by the way.

Speaker 4 It's so much fun.

Speaker 1 I I can't wait. It is.
And

Speaker 1 I did see one person say to me on Friday, they're like, can you just please be a little nicer about the Panthers? Because it's so bad. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think we've been pretty nice, though. Like,

Speaker 1 I don't know what to say.

Speaker 4 We've sympathized with Panthers fans. Your owners suck.
Knowing just what a shithole you're in right now. It's not your fault.

Speaker 1 It's definitely not your fault.

Speaker 1 You have your first-round pick this year. Yeah.
That's huge.

Speaker 1 You don't have your second, but you still have your first-round pick.

Speaker 4 And things can get better.

Speaker 1 Things can get better. It's the NFL.
Teams go from worst to first all the time.

Speaker 4 All the time. And listen, I was stuck in a hellhole with an owner that I thought I would die before he died.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Things can change.
Things can change. Things can get better.

Speaker 1 All right. Last game, Steelers

Speaker 1 32, Raiders 13.

Speaker 1 Steelers defense back after kind of getting run on by the Cowboys in that game they played in Indy two weeks ago, but they were all over the place. Three turnovers, block punt.
TJ Watts, a monster.

Speaker 4 The punches today.

Speaker 1 Punches were incredible. Najee Harris was running harder than I think I've ever seen him run.

Speaker 4 It was the White Sox.

Speaker 1 It was the White Sox.

Speaker 1 That was the first touchdown by a running back for the Steelers this year. Was it really? Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's wild. Crazy.
And it was a long one, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had 106 yards, but he

Speaker 1 ⁇ yeah, the Steelers ⁇

Speaker 1 it's just Mike Tomlin just needs to be in a spot where

Speaker 1 there's adversity.

Speaker 1 He can never get too far. The 3-0 start for the Steelers, Mike Tomlin was not comfortable.

Speaker 4 So he's 5-2 now against the spread when he's a road favorite over the last four seasons. That's good to see.
So good for Mike.

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson looked like he thought that his number was going to get called at any given snap.

Speaker 1 I thought his number was going to get called. Maybe that was because Jerry kept on yelling to us that it's time.

Speaker 4 This time he had his helmet on for the entire game. He was ready to go.
He had been told, hey, Russ, you're in.

Speaker 1 Go get it. Justin Fields did enough with his feet.
And

Speaker 1 Najee Harris, like I said, was running the ball. And they had some short fields.
And the Raiders,

Speaker 1 it's bad.

Speaker 4 It's bad. It's bad.
I've got an interesting stat here for Mark Davis coaches. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 the coaches that have been hired by Mark Davis, non-interim coaches,

Speaker 4 64 and 102. That's a 38% win rate.

Speaker 4 Interim coaches are 17 and 18.

Speaker 4 So basically 500. But that's still a lot better.

Speaker 1 That's a lot better.

Speaker 4 The Raiders need to have just an ongoing cast of interim head coaches. If you win, you stick around, and then when you lose, we'll just hire another interim coach.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So we've made the connection before that the Chiefs are the new Patriots. And we've talked about all the different ways.

Speaker 1 Thief of Joy, Patrick Mahomes, doesn't really matter how they look in the regular season. They won a Super Bowl last year where they didn't look good in the regular season.

Speaker 1 We got another one that we're going to throw in there for the Chiefs being the new Patriots. This is the theory that's going around.
When the Patriots were really running

Speaker 1 well, it was always something would happen and they'd be like, Belichick again, even if he had nothing to do with it. You know,

Speaker 1 his coaches would go and suck somewhere else.

Speaker 4 He would send them to sabotage other Belichick did it again.

Speaker 1 Right. The new theory is that the Chiefs did it again because if they don't lose that Christmas Day game to the Raiders, Antonio Pierce probably doesn't get hired.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they basically got Antonio Pierce hired, and now the Raiders are in this spot. I kind of like it.
Where it's like they're the boogeyman.

Speaker 1 Whatever, you can just spin any bad thing that happens to the Chiefs. Actually, that was them playing the long game.
They're galaxy brain shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Andy Reid was playing seven-dimensional chess.

Speaker 1 He's like, if I lose this game, they will have to hire Antonio Pierce

Speaker 4 a year. They will still be bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or if the Chiefs don't lose that game, who knows if they win the Super Bowl? True. Who knows if they are just complacent going to the playoffs?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's tough for Raiders fans because not only do you have a team that's no fun at all to watch, you probably have the least interesting quarterback controversy in the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I don't know what you do about it. I don't know.
You said Devontae Adams likes AOC. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Do you know why? I don't know why.

Speaker 1 I just heard that.

Speaker 4 Did you see anything today where you're like, yeah, I could see

Speaker 4 if the Raiders had Devontae out there, this is a different game. Nope.

Speaker 1 Do you want to play a fun game called Let's Find the Next Raiders win? Yeah. Okay.
By the way,

Speaker 1 for the first part of the season, I think we all could agree that the Patriots beating the Bengals week one was going to be like, though, what the fuck happened in that game?

Speaker 1 It's definitely the Raiders beating the Ravens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the game where we're going to look back because the Ravens are going to go probably to the AFC Championship game, and the Raiders are probably going to win like three games, four games, and one of them is going to be at the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Well, it is kind of nice if you're playing the Ravens. You get to say, like, you're never out of it.
Because remember, the Raiders beat them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 At the Rams next week, Rams off a pie. Getting healthier.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Rams.

Speaker 1 Then they play the Chiefs at home.

Speaker 4 They do play well against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I don't, yeah, well, but that was because Andy Reid threw that game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Antonio Pierce already got a job. That's not the case.
He won't lose to the Ravens because they need to keep him.

Speaker 4 No, but if they beat the Chiefs, then Antonio Pierce will have more job security.

Speaker 1 That's the next time they play. Okay.
Later on in the season. Agreed.

Speaker 1 At the Bengals.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 At the Dolphins with two back?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think they could win that game. Maybe.

Speaker 4 To me, if it's a a bad weather game, that's a uniform matchup. You got the candy asses, and then you got the old school Raiders.

Speaker 1 Broncos at home.

Speaker 4 I think they could beat the Broncos.

Speaker 1 They could. And then at the Chiefs, at the Bucs and Falcons.
It's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 It doesn't feel like the Raiders are going to make any noise. I'm not a great schedule.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Doesn't feel like they're going to make a lot of noise.

Speaker 4 Free Max Crosby. He likes AOC.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe that was just a rumor I heard from the walls.
The walls do talk around here.

Speaker 4 But Antonio Pierce, he's reached that point as a head coach where he's just trying anything different. Yeah.
Like, he knows what I just saw doesn't look good.

Speaker 4 Let me see if I can change something, even put in a worse player, and maybe somehow we'll get better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just

Speaker 1 change up the look.

Speaker 4 Can we lose in a different way this week?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's basically

Speaker 1 just rearranging his living room.

Speaker 1 It is still his living room.

Speaker 4 The deck chairs on the Titanic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like, oh, I'll put the couch over here. Maybe give me a different look at the TV.
Oh, shit. Maybe he's still losing.

Speaker 4 Maybe if the band played a better song, this iceberg would go away.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Last game, Sunday Night Football.
Bengals with a must-win win.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they needed that game. Their defense showed up.
Giants only scored seven points. That was big.

Speaker 1 And their offense, it was crazy because you'd think the offense has been so lights out, kind of struggled, but Joe Burrow made the big plays when he had to. That touchdown run was awesome.

Speaker 1 Chase Brown, they also got a little lucky at the end. Chase Brown fumbled out of bounds.
I saw that, yeah. And then scored a 30-yard touchdown to ice the game away.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that was like a hard-fought game that the Giants. The Giants are frisky.

Speaker 1 Dexter Lawrence is a fucking monster.

Speaker 1 I feel like he sacked Joe Burrow like 100 times.

Speaker 4 Their defensive line is good. That's not like a fluke.
They've got...

Speaker 4 We have... Thibodeau was out today, right? Yep.
But he's probably going to be coming back in the next week or two.

Speaker 4 The defensive line is very, very good on the Giants. And when they get Malik Neighbors back, that's going going to be big, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and credit to the Bengals' defensive line because they finally showed up, too. Trey Hendrickson played well.
B.J. Hill played well.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what they've been missing is their defensive line has been bad, injured, but also bad. And now the Bengals, I mean, we still believe in the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Two and four. What's their next must-win? I mean, next week is.
I think all of them. Yeah, they kind of all are.

Speaker 1 But this one was a real must-win because it's like you're better than the Giants, even though the Giants aren't the worst team.

Speaker 1 So, wait, is that

Speaker 1 Cleveland?

Speaker 4 Oh, there you go. There you go.
There you go.

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 4 So, is that same Lamar Jackson stat about beating NFC teams?

Speaker 4 Is that what we're looking at with Daniel Jones being 1-14 now in primetime games? Yeah. Whereas one win is against Lamar Jackson? No,

Speaker 1 that was the afternoon game. I remember it because the Ravens were up.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, but Daniel Jones is one in 14 in primetime. Yeah, not great.
Something to think about. Not great.
But again, I say Brian Dayll looks great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does. He's got the glasses on now.

Speaker 4 He's been doing Pilates. He looks smart.
He's definitely not been doing Ozimpic. It's Pilates.

Speaker 1 That Joe Burrow run was crazy. I want to see the all-22.
There was no one on that side of the field. He's fast.
He's like, fuck it, I'm out of here. I'm gone.
Good for the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bengals needed that win bad. And now

Speaker 1 I am not writing off the Bengals.

Speaker 1 There was a guy who

Speaker 1 I shouldn't have even been looking at it, but

Speaker 1 a guy on Twitter who said tomorrow on PMT, Big Cat hates on the Bengals once again, which I don't think we've ever, I think we're pretty pro-Bengals.

Speaker 4 I think I've been more pro-Bengals than you, but that's also partly.

Speaker 1 I said Joe Burrow MVP two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 But I think that's also partly in the back of my head so I can convince myself that Monday Night Football game meant more because we beat a good Bengals.

Speaker 1 I literally was the one who was saying Joe Burrow MVP is playing incredible. But then I saw his other treat was Mike Dirico and Chris Collinsworth have a mouthful of cum over the Giants.

Speaker 1 So that guy's guy's just doing well. He's doing real well.

Speaker 1 He's dealing with this broadcast well.

Speaker 4 He's the only guy in America that's like, enough with the Giants glazing.

Speaker 4 We get it. You guys love the Giants.

Speaker 1 I like to do that sometimes when I see like a rogue tweet coming at us for one of our opinions. Just go check out what else they're saying.
And you're like, all right, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 My favorite is when somebody's talking shit and I look at their recent replies and they're replying to porn stars. Yeah.
That's the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like, yeah, show me your feet. Show me your feet.
Hey, PFT and Big Cat, you guys are fucking idiots. Show me your tits.

Speaker 1 Hey, you stupid little short midget. I like that shit.

Speaker 4 Hey, midget. And then the next tweet is like a reply to Rochelle Ryan being like, come to Sheboygan.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm your biggest fan.

Speaker 1 Would you ever go on a date with a fan? Yeah. Those are the best.
Would you ever go on a date with a fan? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I believe in the Bengals still, just for the record. So Pope Jacob, just chill out, man.
Is that a real Pope? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was very upset about the broadcast.

Speaker 4 All right, so the Bengals sit at 2-4 right now. Yeah.
But they're playing the Browns, right? Yep. So let's say 3-4.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Then they're playing the Eagles.

Speaker 4 I'm telling you, I think the Bengals might make the offs.

Speaker 1 I said last week, I think there's a chance the Bengals are going to, next time they play the Ravens, they'll be above 500 because then they play the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 this was a,

Speaker 1 even though the offense did not look like it's looked the last three weeks where Joe Burrow was just on fire, this was the game that you needed from the Bengals where the defense showed that they still have life.

Speaker 4 That's what I've been saying is that Lou is going to figure it out. Yeah, he's going to figure something out.

Speaker 1 It did help they're playing Daniel Jones. And guess what? It helps they're playing Deshaun Watson next week.
Figured it out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have. So that was all the games.

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Speaker 1 Mets Dodgers game one memes.

Speaker 1 The Dodds.

Speaker 1 Just flush it, move on.

Speaker 2 Game two is must win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, must win.
What did happen?

Speaker 4 They just got absolutely smoked.

Speaker 1 What was the score? 9-0. Dodgers.
9-0? 9-0. While we were taping Mookie Bets.
Yeah. Drove in three more.

Speaker 4 What would you say to somebody who hypothetically said that the magic has run out for the Mets? If there was somebody like that in your life that was close to you, physically close to you.

Speaker 2 I would say it's a long series,

Speaker 4 and that hypothetical person

Speaker 1 blew their load too early last time as well.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 But it did feel like there were some plays. What was it? Who got thrown out at third? Jesse Winker.
Yeah, that was like

Speaker 1 last week that would have worked. It's just one game.
It's just one game. Win game two,

Speaker 1 and you're ahead of schedule. Yeah, and you got Maniah on the bump? You got three at home.
You got three at home. The Dodgers, though,

Speaker 1 they are like the anti-Phillies. They have guys that will get big hits.

Speaker 2 Everyone says that about the Dodgers in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 so far, they've gotten guys that have gotten big hits this year. Have they not?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, but it's the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 Oh, the Dodgers are historically good in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but they're getting this year, they're getting big hits.

Speaker 4 They have won a World Series more recently than the Phillies have. That's COVID.

Speaker 1 That's true. COVID.
That is a good point. But

Speaker 2 some baseball counts, but not

Speaker 1 a bubble.

Speaker 4 One was self-contained in a bubble.

Speaker 1 But hold on, hold on. Orlando.

Speaker 4 If COVID was such a big deal, would they have let Magic Johnson down there for the trophy ceremony without a mask?

Speaker 1 Max. I don't care.
Max, question.

Speaker 1 You're right. You got me on that, that the Dodgers have been chokers in the playoffs.
They have Shohei now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is his first playoffs.

Speaker 1 And he's been pretty good in these playoffs.

Speaker 2 He's been okay.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 he's been pretty good.

Speaker 1 He went to the bottom of the business. You can be unbiased now.
Yeah, except for him. You can be unbiased.
I am.

Speaker 2 This is being unbiased, but I just wanted to.

Speaker 1 The Dodgers' lineup is scarier than the Phillies.

Speaker 1 On paper?

Speaker 6 Yes. Total lineup.

Speaker 4 And also,

Speaker 1 but going into that Phillies Mets series.

Speaker 1 When the manager hands in the lineup, what does he usually write to on paper?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, you guys have said

Speaker 2 better on paper than every show.

Speaker 4 What's your in-game here, though? Is your in-game you're rooting against?

Speaker 1 Don't you want the Mets to lose? I do want the Mets to lose. What do you do?

Speaker 4 He was rooting against the Dodgers because he wants the Mets to lose in the World Series. No,

Speaker 2 you started talking shit, and I wanted to, you know.

Speaker 1 I'm not talking shit. I'm just saying the Dodgers, like, Shohei is a game changer.

Speaker 2 So is Bryce Harper.

Speaker 6 Okay. Bryce Harper's out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 2 But he was

Speaker 1 talking shit.

Speaker 1 But Max, you want...

Speaker 4 I think I know what you're saying. You want the Dodgers to lose so that the Mets can make it to the World Series and have an even more heartbreaking loss.

Speaker 2 No, I did say that going into this game, then I watched the game, and I was like, I can't have Mets fan. I want Mets fans to cry out right now.

Speaker 2 I was watching all of the clips of that cave being so happy.

Speaker 2 Oh, they were fighting with each other.

Speaker 1 It was the best. That's got to make you feel good.

Speaker 2 There was one part where they were. It's not going to bring your friend back.

Speaker 2 You could just hear the.

Speaker 1 Excuse me?

Speaker 6 It's not going to bring your friend back.

Speaker 1 Who's my friend?

Speaker 4 You said we don't have to bring others down to build ourselves up, man. Oh,

Speaker 2 that's exactly what you do.

Speaker 1 100% you have to do that.

Speaker 1 It's all you have left.

Speaker 1 It's what sports fandom is.

Speaker 2 That's why Hank is just rooting against every single team in this podcast. Yeah, he might be rooting.

Speaker 1 No, no. He might be.

Speaker 1 No one wants the Bears and the Canadians.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Hank might

Speaker 1 start rooting. He might start rooting for the Mets just to stick it to you now.
Right.

Speaker 2 I think so. No,

Speaker 1 I was rooting for the Phillies.

Speaker 1 The Padres went out sad, though. The Dodgers just squashed them.
24 scoreless innings.

Speaker 1 And so the Tigers went out sad, too. Scoobel, that grand slam,

Speaker 1 that was hurtful. So the Guardians now play the Yankees game one.

Speaker 1 It's all eyes on New York for

Speaker 1 Columbus Day. Yeah, Columbus Day.
It's the Mets, then the Yankees,

Speaker 1 then the Jets and the Bills. Pretty good day.
Pretty crazy day.

Speaker 4 Also, as a potential be a pretty bad day. What were you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 1 It's impossible. What?

Speaker 6 You can't parlay all four to lose.

Speaker 1 Oh, you want to parlay the Jets and the Bills to lose? Tie.

Speaker 1 So you want, you, you. Let's look at Jerry Kings real quick.
What a tie is?

Speaker 1 No, no, yeah. What he wants to do.

Speaker 6 The Dodds.

Speaker 1 He wants to do the Dodds.

Speaker 1 That's what L.A. fans call them.
The Dodds.

Speaker 1 The Dodds.

Speaker 4 Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 The Guards.

Speaker 1 And a tie.

Speaker 1 That's what you want to do. Not the Bills.

Speaker 4 If you're really being a hater, which we should call timeout for, but if you're truly hating, then you should root for the plus 649.

Speaker 1 That's it? No, no, not Ty. The Bills, the guards, and the Dods.

Speaker 1 All right, I like that.

Speaker 6 Plus 649.

Speaker 6 I'm rooting for you, memes.

Speaker 2 The hater parliament.

Speaker 4 I'm just engineering ways to figure out how bad you're going to suck.

Speaker 1 Playoff baseball has been great, though. Has.
Max, will you come now after Ascrack? Yeah, I feel great. I mean, it was an electric show It was

Speaker 1 Hall of Fame

Speaker 1 between skip and your ass crack It was a Hall of Fame episode of Pardon My Tell It was crazy that more people were talking about the ass crack my fucking asshole, but you have to understand you're I watched that clip a thousand I was showing it to random people.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was like look at this I just woke up on Saturday morning It was like the gambling account tagged me or not gambling

Speaker 2 college football show was like Philly May still catching strays and it was just big catch putting the phone right in Dave's face.

Speaker 1 Like, look at my boy.

Speaker 2 He was so upset about his ass crack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was like, look at my guy. He gets so angry.
He's so Italian.

Speaker 4 Have you thought about throwing out those underwear?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I still haven't unpacked that bag, to be honest with you.

Speaker 6 I got to do that. Like, mentally?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was going to say, it sounds like you're talking about your psychology.

Speaker 1 Can we frame it and put it in the studio, please? Frame my? Yeah, I would like to frame your underwear and put it in the studio.

Speaker 4 Why don't we just get a picture of his ass crack?

Speaker 1 Can you just say what Pug said to you? What did Pug say to you?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 He was like, why don't you just rip a really good belt?

Speaker 1 That's a good question.

Speaker 2 Those pants

Speaker 6 don't have belt loops.

Speaker 1 And you've dealt with it by just becoming the baggiest person in the world today. Yep.

Speaker 6 Let us know.

Speaker 6 I watched the clip a bunch. I was thinking about designing maybe just some t-shirts that say my fucking asshole question mark.

Speaker 6 If you guys would buy that, let me know. Reach out.
We'll try and make that happen.

Speaker 1 Maybe just a picture of his face right before he hits the camera out of Duke's hand on the front and then just his ass.

Speaker 6 Oh, what if maybe it's just MFAH?

Speaker 1 I wonder if our

Speaker 1 merch team could figure out a way to sell boxers that are just...

Speaker 4 Max's ass?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's the ass and the rip. Yeah.
So they're like...

Speaker 4 See, the thing about Max, Max, Max, 100% of the time that you're on a stream with a team that you care about, you provide a moment that is just like, what the fuck is this guy? It's awesome.

Speaker 4 It's the best. You have a secret talent.
You don't try to do any of it.

Speaker 1 It also is. Talented guy.

Speaker 4 You remember when he spat on me?

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 It also is

Speaker 1 the curse.

Speaker 4 No, no, this is, I think it was a Phillies against, was it Phillies Nats?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it was Phillies in the playoffs. It was last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was last year?

Speaker 2 No, two years ago.

Speaker 4 And he got excited because I think they hit a home run. He stood up and he he said something, wasn't careful with the lips, and a big thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just spit all over him. I think it was in this gambling cave.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought it was in the New York gambling.

Speaker 4 It was in New York.

Speaker 2 He might not have been in Phillies, maybe.

Speaker 1 Max, you also, I mean, you know this, but last week was a perfect example of the

Speaker 1 curse of working in partial sports is

Speaker 1 when your team has epic heartbreak, it's actually like good for your career in a weird way. It's fucked up.
Don't shake your head, Hank. Don't fucking shake your head.
That does not apply to you.

Speaker 1 That does not apply to you. But people love our sadness, so when we have like ultimate sadness, it somehow does wonders for us.

Speaker 6 I hate Hank.

Speaker 1 It's so

Speaker 2 mad. He's the only one who can't say this.
It's making me so mad. You're right.

Speaker 1 I was shaking my head like, yeah, big hanging. But you don't, it doesn't apply to you.
You spit. For everyone,

Speaker 4 everyone except for Hank. If your team loses, it's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For the longest time, the

Speaker 1 highest rated episode of Pardon by Take was a Mike Florio episode, and we're like, Florio doing numbers. And then I realized it was right after the double double going.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back of the week. We'll finish up.

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Speaker 1 Hank, who's back of the week?

Speaker 6 My who's back of the week is this league.

Speaker 6 NBA preseason ramping along. I will say,

Speaker 6 I have been watching. There's There's a lot of episodes, so I'm not finished with it.
But the

Speaker 6 NBA Starting 5 show on Netflix, that's like their F1

Speaker 6 version of their Drive to Survive.

Speaker 6 Very, very good. It's Anthony Edwards, LeBron,

Speaker 6 Jimmy Butler, Tatum,

Speaker 6 and

Speaker 6 what's his face from the Kings?

Speaker 1 De'Aaron Fox, Sabonis?

Speaker 6 Sabonis.

Speaker 6 And I've had to tell myself this because remind myself it is an uninterrupted production.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 it could be very biased, but I do find myself liking LeBron.

Speaker 1 And whoa, whoa. Like, he's just funny.

Speaker 1 He is a funny guy. Like, he's just, it's just, he's funny.
He's just a goof.

Speaker 6 He's just a big goof.

Speaker 6 But again, it's like, this is what they want you to think. But

Speaker 1 whatever.

Speaker 6 So I'm excited for NBA to come back. Today, the Knicks played the Timberwolves in MSG right after after first time they met since the DiVincenzo trade.
Yep. And I don't know.

Speaker 6 That's why I was checking my phone. I don't know how things went with the post-game pressers after, but it looked from tweets and stuff in the video that were basically lip-syncing.

Speaker 6 So you don't know exactly what was said where DiVincenzo was basically talking shit back and forth with Tibbs. As he was shooting a free throw, being like, this is what happens

Speaker 6 when you let me run the team.

Speaker 6 When you run the team. Yeah, they were just basically just like John John in the middle of the game.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and he did someone asked like they asked him who if he could hit a game winner over One of his former teammates. Who would you choose? And he just said as long as in front of Tibbs.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's not. He said, I can't finish though, Tibbs.

Speaker 1 There's like he also got into it with Jalen Brunson's dad, Rick Brunson, who works for the Knicks. Did you see that? Post-game, they had to be separated? No.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's what I'm saying. This league.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this league big time.

Speaker 4 So he said, I was talking to Tibbs to Rick Brunson. Yeah.
When he was saying that's what happens when they let you run the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it feels like maybe he was talking to Rick Brunson.
Yeah. Which is kind of awkward for Jalen, who was like, wow.

Speaker 1 All right, go ahead, play it.

Speaker 1 Get this ready.

Speaker 2 He says, I can't finish, right, Tibbs?

Speaker 1 I can't finish, right? Oh,

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 This league big time.

Speaker 4 So he says, my relationship with Jalen, that's my brother and my best friend. That's a separate relationship.
Weren't people saying that he was like the last of the friends? Like, not as close?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Dante and Jalen Brunson were roommates in college. Dante and Josh Hart didn't like each other.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay.
Got it.

Speaker 6 This league. But why'd they get rid of Dante?

Speaker 2 He, I think.

Speaker 2 I think he didn't like being looked at as the fourth guy. Yeah, as the fourth guy.

Speaker 1 He was going to probably be off the bench again after being.

Speaker 2 But is he He might be off the bench in the middle of the day. Yeah, he might be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Either way, this league, good who's back. I had it written down.

Speaker 4 Good job, Hank.

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 4 Hockey's back. Yeah.
Hockey's back, and the Utah Hockey Club is good and fun. What is it about hockey that makes the new team so much better?

Speaker 2 The draft.

Speaker 4 Did I think they changed the expansion draft this year, didn't they?

Speaker 6 I know the Vegas one they did, I always thought was crazy. Whereas you can protect like two players, basically.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so they got Flurry, which is wild. But yeah, it feels like expansion teams in the NHL are just, they don't go through those same growing pains that other sports do.

Speaker 4 But my other who's back is the U.S. Men's National team.
Because on Saturday night, during the college football madness, we had our debut with our new coach. We won.
Dosicero.

Speaker 1 What do we? Panama. What was the term? It was a friendly.

Speaker 4 It was a friendly. But we won 2-0.

Speaker 4 And then we got Mexico and another friendly, I think, on Tuesday night. And we looked good.

Speaker 4 We dominated just in terms of time of possession everything they had a couple counterattacks but overall I think he he looks like a good coach so far and we're not playing our best players against Mexico I think Pulisich is gonna sit out because he wants to see what the what the bench looks like and give them more playing time but got it I'm back I'm back in on what is what do we get if we win nothing it's a friendly you get friendship you win friendship

Speaker 1 Why are they doing it during football season?

Speaker 4 Because they also play sports. It's a different sport.

Speaker 1 But like during Saturday of football, Oregon, Ohio State? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know if the guys that run U.S. soccer or look at that.

Speaker 1 They should probably figure that out.

Speaker 1 I would have maybe tuned in if it was like a Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 4 I had that on alternate screen.

Speaker 4 But it was good. It was good.
You should be excited. If you're an American and you like beating teams and sports that the rest of the world cares about, I do.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like when we win the Presidential Cup in golf or whatever, that we don't give a shit about and we beat the rest of the world, that feels good as an American.

Speaker 1 I want this guy to be good. My whole take has always been: if this guy, if the U.S.
men's national team doesn't get good,

Speaker 1 are we going to keep blaming the coach or are we going to be like, hey, maybe we're just not good?

Speaker 4 No, this is just on us not being good. If we don't.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah,

Speaker 1 then I'm in. I'm all in on him.

Speaker 4 I'm still all in on the idea of somehow getting this guy to make Messi a temporary citizen or get him like a passport. Yeah.
And Messi will play for us in the World Cup.

Speaker 1 Let's do that. Let's do that.
If he wants to win another one, he does have a World Cup victory. Ronaldo could never.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back is Rick Petino. He went back to Kentucky.
They were doing a celebration for the championship team. Obviously, Mark Pope is now the coach.
He was on that team. It was cool.

Speaker 1 It was cool. I think our guy, Matt Jones, also got an interview with him.
Yep. So, like, felt like it was kind of all coming back together.
It was nice.

Speaker 4 I like that they're just letting Rick kind of help out coaching the Kentucky basketball team, even though he's the coach of St. John's.
I think there were some St.

Speaker 1 John's fans that were a little upset, but they weren't cucked. They were celebrating

Speaker 1 a championship.

Speaker 4 Yeah, hey, St. John's fans, you can sit in the corner of this hotel room and watch.

Speaker 1 Also, Coach is Kentucky. Also, Rick Petino's back because there was a New York Post article that said St.

Speaker 1 John's, New York's largest Catholic university, has canceled Columbus Day, and he just said fake news. So I'm just going to, I'm not going to read the article.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to go with Rick Petino and say fake news.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we don't need community notes. We got community coach.
Fake news.

Speaker 1 That's fake news. They can't take that away, can they,

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 2 No, not for Italians. No.

Speaker 1 that's a are you going to take tomorrow off? You can have tomorrow off.

Speaker 2 No, I'll be here.

Speaker 2 The Italians would want me to be here.

Speaker 4 The Italians would want you to work? Yeah.

Speaker 1 How bad you are. I'll be late.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Yeah. That's what Columbus would want.

Speaker 1 Enjoy your heritage.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else? Another great week of football.
We're

Speaker 1 officially a third of the way through the season, which is nuts.

Speaker 4 I hate it when you start saying that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying that it's like crazy that we're a third of the way and we have, it feels like we're starting to figure some things out.

Speaker 4 I think we figured some things out.

Speaker 4 Listen, we got tears. We know what the tears are.

Speaker 1 That's exciting. He's the worst.
Yeah, isn't that exciting?

Speaker 4 We're better than alive, Hank. It is kind of crazy.
I've never been so alive in my life. It is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 I'm excited. This desk has the best record in the podcast.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 You deserve it.

Speaker 1 We do.

Speaker 1 What's your record, Max?

Speaker 2 3-2. You guys have played 94.

Speaker 1 4-2. That's 4-2.

Speaker 2 Ken Pom came out today.

Speaker 4 Oh, was Ken Pomm. I love that.

Speaker 1 I'm just.

Speaker 1 How's Nova looking?

Speaker 2 Better than people

Speaker 2 preseason polls are saying.

Speaker 1 Where's Wisconsin ranked? Not good, probably.

Speaker 1 Let me look. I love Wisconsin.
46.

Speaker 4 Okay. Nova's 20.
Got some work to do.

Speaker 1 Got some work to do. Are we thinking future on Nova? No.

Speaker 2 I actually think they're going to be really bad this year, but maybe that's when

Speaker 4 they'll be good. UConn's five.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to be good again.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's wrap up numbers.
Three. 20.
We'll go eight. There you go, memes.

Speaker 1 We're moving it around. 11.
Memes, you're going to get this. No, you're not.
He's going to get this.

Speaker 2 Actually, today will probably be the day you get it.

Speaker 1 He's never going to get it with three. He's done three for what, three years straight? You got to get off three.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 4 PFT wish or not.

Speaker 1 Have you ever gotten it? That's not gotten it. Hank, what do you got? 20 for Villanova.
Mova

Speaker 1 32

Speaker 4 32 Mississippi State.

Speaker 4 Was

Speaker 4 tenants, and I think it's a bit

Speaker 4 of a tennis tank, and the picket came.