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Yeah. It feels that way, doesn't it? It does.
They're like a fun team. They're playing for each other.
They're emotional out there. People are crying.
It's hard to say if we're power ranking teams of destiny right now. I would say the Mets would probably be the leader in the clubhouse.
Yeah, because they have the saying, they have the OMG that they're running around, the rallying cry. Monday was one of the most dramatic last days know last days of the regular season the braves and the mets had to play in a double header if they split the games they both go into the playoffs if one team sweeps the other team is out it looked like i so we have a lot of mets fans that we know a lot of mets fans we work with memes is aets fan he's he's not here right now he's out for a couple days but uh I think seeing like our our colleague Meek Phil cry people were making fun of him being like dude they just clinched a wild card spot but that's not knowing the Mets history going into Monday I think most Mets fans were fearing the embarrassment and dread of somehow losing both games, especially in a situation where the second game will not matter whatsoever to the team that wins the first game.
And the Mets were down and lifeless. They come all the way back.
Then the Braves come back. Then the Mets come back.
And it was just like Lindor, who should get heavy consideration for MVP, even though he plays in the same league as Shohei. The Mets might be a team of destiny, and our guy Max is scared.
He thinks the Mets will just never lose again, even though they technically lost the second game because they were just swinging at everything, and they didn't give a fuck, and they were just trying to get out of there. Yeah, going into that game, the rules that were set into place by Major League Baseball were so funny because you had the opportunity and it actually ended up happening where both teams would get in at the end of the day.
So they were not allowed to have a champagne celebration for the Mets after the first game was over. They had to wait until after the second game.
And then we had double champagne celebrations. I think that they should have let the Mets celebrate their win.
They should have been able to get drunk. Is there something in the rules about not being able to play baseball when you're drunk? That would have been funny to watch in the second game.
And then, so they had that rule in place. And then the manager of the Mets said that maybe after the games are over, they'll just instead of doing a celebration in their own locker rooms, they'll just go out and hug on the field.
They'll hug the other team. So I was rooting for the hug, basically just because it was a Frank the Tank fanfic come to life where the Mets manager was actually saying, let's hug the Braves and celebrate them and their victories and their successes.
But yeah, Max, I was actually curious too, because looking at the playoff bracket, I would imagine that you do not want to play the Mets if you had your choice. Is that true? I've been rooting against the Mets.
I wanted nothing more than than to play any team but the mets going into yesterday and like the way everything has gone in the past two days it's like i don't i i have zero confidence in that series they're exactly the team that you do not want to face in the playoffs we We haven't needed to play meaningful baseball in a month.

Every single game has been down to the wire for them.

They go down.

They come back.

Even in the Brewers game today, they went down twice, came back twice,

and they keep having clutch hit after clutch hit. It's the exact team that gets hot at the end of September

that it just doesn't matter who they play.

They're going to win.

And the Phillies haven't played meaningful baseball like all year. Yeah.
Hey, Max, turn your headphones off. I'm worried.
I'm worried that our boy's learning. Because old Max would have been like, they're the Mets.
Fuck them. We'll beat the fuck out of the Mets.
The fact that he's got this trepidation, that he's a little insecure, that I don't like that. I want Max to get back to like, to like fuck him said no but the mets are they're playing great ball right now and this is the scariest part about postseason baseball is it's just so it's simultaneously the longest most torturous thing you can watch and also the quickest thing that can happen because like even the wild card round especially tomorrow there will probably be two out of four of those teams maybe three out of four maybe all four out of the playoffs and it happened like that like the brewers i know brewers fans are sitting there like not again i this happens every year we're good and then we get there and it's just instant so uh even in the the ds when it's a five game series you can just be done in a matter of like three or four days and just it makes no sense because you watch this you watch six months of baseball and then boom it's over so i understand where max is coming from the mets look really good uh yeah i would be nervous over max i'd be very nervous our max because that was that that mond because that Monday game felt like it did feel like going into that game.
The fan base, especially, maybe not the team, was feeling the pressure of this will be so embarrassing if we lose two games when the second game doesn't matter. And the way they won the first game with Lindor just being an absolute clutch monster of a hitter.
It just makes you play free. And the Mets are playing free, and they dominated the Brewers.
They jumped all over the Brewers today. I wonder if Mets fans are pissed off that they had to listen to our boy Christian Yelich talk about the game.
Yeah. That was giving some Jason Kelsey vibes during Monday Night Football.
Yeah, but we love Christian. We do love Christian.

Yeah, it was – the Mets just jumped all over him. Did you also see there's a – what was the – I saw it somewhere.

The Mets called up a dude who's like – do they call up?

I got to find it.

I got to find it.

But either way, yeah, Mets look good.

The Tigers need a lot of credit.

What?

Mrs. Met looking right.

Ms. Met looking voluptuous.

Thank you. But either way, yeah, Mets look good.
The Tigers need a lot of credit. What? Mrs.
Met looking right. Ms.
Met looking voluptuous. They did not nerf Mrs.
Met. That's a body built for October.
Yeah, yeah. So the Tigers, too, like we have just great stories right now in October.
Tarek Skruble, who's a Cy Young. Shout out that AWL.
I've said it on the show. I'll find the tweet when he actually officially wins it, but he's going to win it.
Who handed me an envelope in Detroit when we were at the NFL draft and he walked away. He just handed me the envelope and walked away.
I was like, what the fuck is this? I open up the envelope. In the envelope is a piece of paper that says Tare scoobel uh cy young take it right now 450 to four plus 450 i got it at four plus 400 i bet it instantly i've never done that blind trust in this dude who just handed me envelope he's gonna win the cy young he was an absolute beast what'd you say you blind trusted people well blind trusted never an envelope yeah usually just people just hand me yeah they just say things and i just bet it but like an envelope felt official it was like he was he was handing something that was like very official that he wrote down who who has envelopes like i don't even where the fuck would you get an envelope these days uh yeah that was actually it was the mentalist that did it.
Yeah. Nailed it again.
I mean, it was a great bet. Shout out that guy.
I got to find him and I got to buy him something. So I will buy him something.
If the guy can prove it, I'll figure out through my tweets if I can figure out like the, if I took a picture with him or something, but he was an absolute beast in Houston today. Just Haas.

There's something about those top-of-the-rotation Haases

where they just get on the mound

and they just absolutely dominate and shove.

And that's what he did to the Astros today.

It felt good.

It looked good.

It felt good.

Tigers fans have not had a lot to be excited about recently.

And this team has kind of come out of nowhere. They were building something, but this is like a little early.
Awesome win. Hopefully they can beat the Astros.
No one's rooting for the Astros. Yeah, so I have no idea how the Tigers did this this season.
They're the youngest team in baseball, I think, I think by a pretty significant margin. So they were not penciled into this spot at all.
I think what happened was they stopped playing Javier Baez, and Javi got hip surgery. And Javi and his contract, that might be – it's probably the worst contract in baseball right now.
So he's out for the rest of the season. And then they started winning games.
And their young guys stepped up. And to me, if you were to make one argument for another team of destiny, it would be the tigers.
Yeah. Yeah.
The, uh, I know how they did it. My guy, Scott Harris, uh, is the, is the GM in baseball.
I think he's president of baseball ops. They're fucking super smart dude.
He was one. I don't know if you remember the story.
He was like, he was kind of Theo's whipping boy for a while in Chicago where like they were, there was a story that came out when the cubs made their run that uh they would make him eat a loaf of bread every time they needed a rally in theo and jed's suite but then he also i wrote a blog about him when he got he was like 26 years old and he got promoted to like vp like like vice president gm or assistant gm or something and i wrote a whole blog like, this guy's a fucking overachieving piece of shit. Like you can't be 26 and be the assistant GM.
And then I happened, I had like a mutual friend and I ended up meeting him like a few months later. He's like, Hey, I read that blog.
And it was the first time I was like, Oh yeah, I get, I guess things I do say probably people hear these. So great dude though.
I became friends of him. He's a genius and he's got the Tigers in the right direction.
I love the idea that the Cubs had like that kid at the lunch table. This guy will eat anything.
I got to find it now. It's like Billy Bats and Joe Pesci, right? Yeah.
It's like, I don't know if you know, but I don't try and choose no more. You've gone a long time.
Maybe you didn't find out. I think it was John Greenberg who wrote the story, but it was a great story where, yeah, he basically, like, they just handed him bread every time, and they were like, hey, here you go.
We need some runs, so go start eating some bread. But, yeah, the Tigers are a great story.
The Royals are a great story. The Orioles are – I'm starting to feel bad for orioles fans that's nine straight playoff losses they've had nine straight and i uh i looked it up so i was i was trying to figure out if it was exactly nine straight and i you know you know every now and then like for college football they'll do like winspedia and you can see like the history of a rivalry so i searched Orioles' playoff history, and it got me to a website that's called Champ or Chump, and it grades each franchise, major sports franchise, and the fan experience for the last 10 years.
And the Orioles fans, they get a D+. You get a D+, if you were a fan of the Orioles for the last 10 years.
Yeah, I mean, there's always that Zach Britton game where he was nowhere to be found. Was that the start of their losing streak or was that, that might've been the start of it? Well, they got swept by the Royals in 2014 and then they went and they lost a one game when it was still a one game wild card to the Rangers.
They got swept last year or sorry to the Blue Jays. They got swept last year and they've lost this year.
So yeah, that's, that's, uh, that's nine straight. And they just, I feel like, I don't know.
I mean, I like the Orioles. I like those guys are awesome on the team.
The young guys on that team that came through the office, uh, earlier in the season. Orioles fans can tell me I'm way off.

It feels like the Orioles, whatever their hitting coach,

they need a new hitting coach because it feels like every time they're in a big

moment, they're all just swinging for the fences and hoping they hit a home run.

And you've said it a million times, BFT, small ball wins.

Small ball, Mike socialism.

Yeah.

It's great.

Pete Rose would be disgusted by the Baltimore Orioles.

Swing down at the ball, line drives, ground can be hits pop flies can't yeah so um and then what was the other oh the padres in the uh it was the padres in in the uh braves who the braves i mean they they had to fly all the way across the country and then they pitched pitched. Hank, what were you saying? They pitched like nobody?

Yeah, they started the broadcast being like,

this guy hasn't pitched in 157 days.

He's 21 years old.

He was in college not too long ago.

You could tell he was nervous,

and then I think his fifth pitch was like hit into the upper deck.

Yeah, Tatis went yard today, and the moonshot that he hit,

I know I just got done talking about how you shouldn't swing up at bowls, which statistically probably isn't true given the way that baseball has gone recently. But Tatis hit a ball.
I looked it up. It was 39-degree launch angle, a moonshot.
That's the biggest launch angle to be a home run in the history of Major League Baseball since they've been keeping track. So that thing went straight up.
And Tatis is a fucking monster to watch. That dude is awesome.
He is. He is.
And obviously, it was because they played yesterday. They were trying to get in.
But it started before that going, yeah, it was supposed to be Chris Sale, but he's not available. So instead, they have this 21-year-old kid that hasn't pitched in the Major Leagues.
Dude, what happened with Chris Sale? He had back spasasms or something or or his something was fucked up where he just it happened at noon yesterday because he was supposed to pitch the second game in a must win and now all of a sudden he's just not even pitching it's nuts yeah yeah braves just get these type of injuries i don't know um by the way i found the the uh the uh anecdote. It's actually from Wright Thompson, our good friend.
This is from an article in 2016. So this is Scott Harris, who is basically the mastermind in running the Detroit Tigers, who are a great story in these playoffs.
So it says, Wright Thompson wrote, a Cubs winning streak grows to 11 games halfway through the home series against the Cardinals in August. On a Saturday, Epstein and Baseball Ops guys gather in Sweet 33 to watch the team try to win a third straight from St.
Louis. The world up there has its own set of rules and superstitions and central to the canon is this.
If the team needs offense, Theo makes Scott Harris, the director of baseball operations, take out a loaf of plain bread and start eating. When Harris eats carbs, the Cubs score.
You eat this this is you take this bread boy come over here boy you look like a frat house yeah that's it so that guy that guy i trust in theo too maybe theo was right to do this maybe theo knows something about developing talent that guy scott harris is is head of everything in the tigers i hope he's still eating the bread for the Tigers because they're gonna need some runs uh but yeah it's cool baseball story he's a great dude he's a great dude so I'm happy for Tigers fans also this is the second time in 2024 when Michigan sports fans have had an incredible weekend Michigan sports are on top of the world like great days in a row back it was uh was it the Lions wildcard victory and Michigan National Championship? Yeah. Back-to-back days.
And now you've got the Lions dominating Monday Night Football, which we'll talk about in a second. And then the Tigers winning a playoff game.
Good for you, Michigan. Yeah.
Michigan's on top. Michigan's on top.
And the Royals are also a great story. I just like teams that haven't been in in a while it's always great to get new the new faces into the playoffs and the Royals are one of those where they've had an unbelievable season they got some fucking studs um playoff baseball is the best though it's like these first days when it's just wall-to-wall baseball and every moment feels so intense I just you love it so is it bad for the teams that get the buys that they have to just sit around and get out of rhythm? Because back in the day, you know what they used to do? They used to schedule like meaningless games against exhibition teams.
They would have, they play each other. Yeah, they play each other.
They, they play themselves like Garrett Cole. There was a clip of Garrett Cole, uh, uh, someone taking him yard at Yankee stadium today.
Uh, but PFT, I don't want to say you're sounding like a Dodgers fan, but you're sounding like a Dodgers fan right now because that's Dodgers 101. I'm in favor of postseason chaos.
I'm in favor of a team winning like 130 games and then getting swept in a series. Yeah, that's Dodgers 101 being like, well, it's actually a detriment that we don't get to play these first three days, and that's why we lose.
And it's not fair, and they should basically do it like the EPL. Whoever wins the most games gets to win the World Series.
They don't even play the playoffs. They should just do it based on whichever players had the highest war during the regular season.
Wins over play. We'll do it all based on math.
Yeah, yeah. just going back you're you're you're done you're not even gonna watch no just expectations are very low that's so sad the bank dude the bank i know i know the game one game one on an nfl sunday no game two game two's on nfl sunday game one game one game one saturday must.
I'll tell you this right now. Game one is must win.
Oh, look at our boy. He's all grown up.
He's all grown up. If he moves at the bank Saturday with Wheeler pitching, you may as well not watch the rest of the series.
This is a seminal moment in part of my take history because Max, it feels like he's finally been beaten down by us and this show that he's going game one must win. And I have to agree.
You have to win. You can't lose that game.
I'm not even like I'm just assuming that the Mets win tomorrow and it doesn't even I'm just assuming Mets like if it's the Mets game one must win. If it's a brewer.
I don't like this Max. I'm just assuming that the Mets win tomorrow, and it doesn't even – I'm just assuming Mets.
If it's the Mets game one, must win. If it's a Brewer – I don't like this, Max.
I'm telling you. He's learned too much.
Yeah. We've beaten him down too much.
He's already saying must win on a game one. We usually don't break out the must win thing until it's 1-1, it's a game three or something, and then we get you a whole pickle but you just you're throwing up the white flag right now every game's a must-win it's all the weddings he's been going he's got too much perspective on life now so max let me ask you question if you lose game one it's over right you don't even play game two no you'd obviously play game two but oh so then it's not a must- so you'd still have series left i mean i'm just saying for like vibes if we lose game one then like my expectations are low right now if we lose game two it'll just be like oh whatever this we're just watching baseball for fun but you're but you're saying that like there will be a game too right you say must win so i assume that there would just never be a game after that because you wouldn't do a must win if there's if there's still four games in the series left no uh you guys are trying i don't know what you guys are trying to paint this picture you're trying to paint right now but i'm gonna say that game ones must win watch it it's playing uno here's the thing though big guy it sounds like max doesn't trust in his guys yeah the one thing about max you like that's because they just keep letting me down every time you don't love your guys anymore you don't love your guys max we just played a little uno reverse on you there i don't know if you you realize that um but this is gonna be fun this is october this is my favorite thing uh Should we talk? You know what? Dikembe Mutombo, I feel like, deserves a rest in peace before Pete Rose because Dikembe Mutombo was an all-time guy, basketball player, recurring guest, was like a thrill.
I remember when we had Dikembe on, it was one of those ones where it was like, this is an all-time thrill, and he did not disappoint. He was exactly as I expected and just as funny and gregarious as I expected, and I was really sad to see that he passed away on Monday.
The voice was incredible when we got to talk to him. I mean, you will never forget that.
I saw a clip of when he was on Conan O'Brien's show, and Conan made him suck a helium balloon and start talking. It was great.
Yeah. Dikembe, great person, intimidating ass basketball player.
Just go watch highlights, compilations of Dikembe just blocking shots, wagging his finger. That's what started the whole taunting thing.
That's the first thing I can remember where refs stepped in and had to be like no it's too emasculating to do this to your opponent he would swat their shot and then he would wag his finger in their face and they told him okay you're allowed to wag your finger but you can't wag it at them you can just like hold it up in the air and wag it yeah and then it's all gone to shit since then but yeah to give me matumbo awesome defensive player i'll always remember that that nugget series where he was crying holding the ball afterwards behind his head on the ground it was so good um all-time all-time guy yeah all right uh and then pete rose also passed away uh way better baseball player than human but pete rose i mean he listen i'm a believer that he should be in the hall of fame because i think the hall of fame should have everyone in it uh any any incredible player you put you tell the whole story tell the whole story of baseball steroids guys pete rose everything he should have been in the hall of fame i feel like they might put him in uh after he passed which would be a little bit of a shame in my eyes.

He said he didn't want to go in after he died.

Well, now he doesn't have a choice.

The celebration is for your family and your friends, and you want to be there to witness all of it.

I understand that perspective.

He also got a late suspension.

He had a lifetime suspension.

The lifetime's over.

It's over.

It's over.

But yeah, P. Rose, I mean, one of the best baseball players of all time.

I mean, what, 4,000- uh 256 hits uh here's a crazy stat i read this tonight um he had 3 125 singles that's more than babe ruth had hits he had more singles than babe ruth had hits over his career, which is crazy. And also, just looking up crazy stats, I just searched for some Pete Rose stats, and that led me to a Barry Bonds stat that I feel like we should just throw in here because it's a fun fact.
Barry Bonds, did you know he has more intentional walks than the entire Tampa Bay Rays organization in their history? That's amazing. I love that stat.
And this is the last time we can say that because he's got, I think, three more intentional walks than the Rays do. So next season, that stat's not going to be around anymore.
Yeah. Pete Rose, we tried to get him on a few times.
I think he wanted money, which I understand. That was the Pete Rose game.
um also hall of fame gambler i think he has to be at that he should be in the hall of fame easily the story goes obviously in 2002 i believe he had like a uh private uh under the radar meeting with bud selig basically being like how can i get my lifetime ban taken away how can i get get in the Hall of Fame? And Bud Seelig was like, you have to apologize for it. You have to completely disassociate from gambling.
You have to not do any of that stuff. You have to show true remorse.
And apparently the story goes that Pete Rose took the meeting, agreed to all these things, and literally just walked right into a casino. And it was just like, that's it.
I believe it. 1-800-GAMBLER.
Pete Rose, he was an all-time example of how not to apologize for stuff. Yeah.
So he probably would be in the Hall of Fame if he had admitted when he was caught, yeah, I bet on games. And I bet on games that I was managing.
And that's just what happened. So instead of doing that, he said, I never bet on baseball.
I think he said never bet on sports first. And they said never bet on baseball afterwards.
Then it was, I never bet on game. I never bet on baseball games that I was managing.
And then he was like, well, I never bet on games that I was managing and bet on us to lose. I always bet on us to win.
So he did bet on games that they manage. There was one more step he could have gone, which is, yes, I did bet on baseball games that I managed and I bet on us to lose, but I lost those bets.
Yeah. If he had gone that far, that was like the last thing that he didn't ever get around to saying, but he had a hard time admitting his problems.
Yeah. And it is like, I know people will know people will some people will be like well if you bet on them to win what's the problem i always i kind of understand it but i'm also like if you're if you're betting a ton of money on a game and you're the manager of the game you probably are going to manage it a lot differently than it's like game you know 85 in in the middle of of the summer.
You're probably like, if you're like, hey, I have this is the biggest bet I've made all season. You're going to use your bullpen different.
Everything's going to be different. So, yeah, you probably can't bet on games even if you're betting on your team to win.
Definitely changes things. You're probably going to make it more likely that your team loses the next game.
Right. And then if you bet on your team to win, you empty out your bullpen and you win that bet then as a guy that loves having a little action on the game you know that you're not going to have a great bullpen the next day you might be more inclined to bet on your team to lose the next day yeah um last thing before we kick it to ourselves do you guys want me to this champs or chumps uh website do you guys want me to look up anything uh like for fan sadness yeah they say they grades every fan's experience in the last 10 years oh the bears got an f minus that's pretty bad i didn't know they gave f minuses i'll look up the commanders hold on let's see commanders got an f okay they got an f oh fuck you hank it's probably like a b plus no it's last 10 years dude it's gonna be an a it's a plus if you want to if you've won a title in the last 10 years you get an a at bare minimum one what i guess yeah Oh, you did that on purpose.
Like the Eagles. A.
Yeah, if you go to a Super Bowl or win a Super Bowl title, what was the team? You wanted Wizards? 49ers is an A. Yeah, yeah.
Give me Wizards. Wizards would be great.
This is a fun site. 49ers fan is not an A.
It's a B. Yeah.
That's correct. I think that's actually a very fair grade it almost hurts that much more yeah right a b is like not a grade a b is like i was capable of getting an a but i just don't have one what about falcons that's that's real test too because you got to a super bowl wizards is they are a d plus that's very generous it's a fun sitecons, Falcons, Falcons.
I don't know exactly the what's behind the algorithm here. C for the Falcons.
So yeah, it's a 10-year sample size shows winning percentage. They made the playoffs twice.
They've won three playoff games, zero championships. Panthers.
Panthers. Panthers might, if this counts their Super Bowl year, it might not be as bad as you think.
C. Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, and it counts their Super Bowl year or going to the Super Bowl, 15-1. Fun site.
I don't know. I just found it randomly.
ChamperChomp.us. Probably going to get a virus or something on my phone.
What about the Raiders? Good question, Hank. The Las Vegas Raiders get a F.
What about the Chiefs? Chiefs, it's got to be an A+. A+.
What about the Broncos? Broncos. B plus because it includes their Super Bowl win 2015.
All right. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah. Do you feel satisfied? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's a cool site.
Give me Cowboys. Cowboys.
You could do this all day. D plus.
See, I like this website. This is a good website.
That's a good good grade i think this website is fair yeah about the uh the los angeles uh rams the los angeles rams that's going to be at least an a you want a super bowl hey you're asking all the worst questions yeah you're asking all the ones that won a super bowl i'm just curious packers or b plus that feels fair yeah okay well let's kick it to ourselves and then we got booger mcfarland uh yeah let's get back in the studio there's making a sandwich and then there's crafting a sandwich and when i want something perfectly crafted i go straight to boar's head for over a century boar's head has been dedicated to crafting premium deli favorites. Every ingredient is carefully chosen, every recipe made with a purpose.
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Okay. Monday Night Football.
Jared Goff was perfect. He's always been perfect.
He's always been perfect, but he was extra perfect. He not only went perfect passing, but he caught, which Amon Ross St.
Brown needs more credit. That was maybe the most perfect wide receiver pass I've ever seen.
He dropped it in a bucket. He said that they've called that play a few times and they've always checked out of it.
So this is the first time he got to actually execute on it. Yeah, and Ben Johnson was in his bag.
In his bag. On that pass play, though, where Jared caught it, Jared explosive off the line.
Yeah. Elite first three steps off the line.
Ran just slow enough to make the defense think he wasn't going out on a round. It looked like he was just kind of going over to the sideline.
Yeah. And so he was just open enough to catch it, and then he uncorked some dimes, too.
Hit Jameis in downfield. Amon Ross St.
Brown, one of the coolest catches I've seen, where it's just his body goes limp in midair. Yeah.
And then just two feet come down perfectly. Body control.
Yeah. And I also saw a play that someone did a film review where he had, I think it was Amon Ross, might have been Laporta.
No, I think it was Amon Ross, where he runs his route through the sea gap. So it's basically they block like it's a running play.
He runs and then does a curl and hits him perfectly. It was Ben Johnson.
He's a genius. He is a genius.
I also think that the Seahawks are not bad. Agreed.
On the contrary, I think the Seahawks are good. They had the most first downs in NFL history and a loss last night.

Yeah, I was watching that game.

They had a bunch of defensive starters out.

It was very clear that they couldn't stop anything the Lions were throwing at them.

But I was watching that game being like,

Geno looks totally in control,

and it's crazy how much better he looks than the Geno we've known.

This is the year of reclaimed quarterbacks.

By the way, credit to us.

I don't know if you saw, but Means posted a quote card

for you. We've known.
This is the year of reclaimed quarterbacks. By the way, credit to us.
I don't know if you saw, but Means posted a quote card from December 7, 2022. Never forget.
Almost two years ago, PFT said, I still believe in Baker Mayfield. This is when they were both on the Panthers.
And I said, I'll do you one worse. I still believe in Sam Darnold.
So we know ball. We know ball.
We know ball on this podcast.

December 7th in the United States, I want you to think of one thing and one thing only.

That's part of my take.

Yes.

But yeah, we came to the same conclusion.

The Seahawks, I did not go away from that game being like, man, the Seahawks stink. It was the Seahawks need to get healthy on defense because their offense is, it almost

was like a mirror image with the amount of dudes that you can count on the field. Like Lockett, DK, Jackson Smith, you know, Charbonnet.
Panay Sewell. Kenneth Walker.
Yeah. Panay Sewell.
Bobo. Bobo was great last night.
Bobo was great. Bobo was really good.
And then the Lions have just Jameer Gibbs, David Montgomery, Amon Ra, Jameson Williams, Laporte, just dudes all across the field. Both those offenses were so much fun to watch, and it was a perfect Monday night game.
Yeah, it was dudes as far as I can see. That was the only Monday night football game last night, which was wonderful.
Wait, before we get to the other one, there's a very important question I have to ask you about the Detroit Lions because this is the national conversation that's happening today about them okay you as a father yes would you let the detroit lions take your family to disneyland no because i'm not going to take any of my kids to disney world or disneyland disneyland but it's not is that the one in California? Disneyland is in California. So then yes.

You would.

Maybe.

Free?

Are you sure?

Wait, but they-

The Lions take them.

I'm going to say no.

Okay.

Well, you and Colin Coward agree.

Okay.

Coward was saying that the Lions are a family member, that they were all over the map for

a while, and then they got their act together, but he doesn't trust him enough to let the Lions take his kids to Disneyland on a trip. Okay.
I think I would. I think it'd be fun, yeah.
I think it'd be a great time with Dan Campbell. Oh, yes.
Yeah, you'd be at the front of every line. You'd probably win all the Carney games.
Yeah, you'd dominate in that. I think the Lions might be one of the first teams I would allow.
I'm only saying it just because, like I said, Universal Studios maybe my kids can go to, but I didn't go to Disney World, so I'm not going. Yeah, I'm not going.
I'm not taking them. I guess if the Lions take them, it's not me.
I think the Lions would be at least top three teams that I would allow. Would you let the Lions watch your kids for an extended weekend? Defined extended.
You leave Friday morning. Don't get back till they're asleep.
So you really see your kids again Monday night. So three full bedtimes.
Are they at Dan Campbell's house? No. The one that got doxed.
Okay. They're not at that one.
Yeah. I'd let the lions hang out with my kids.
Okay. Would you let the lions fuck your girl? That's that's the real question we should be asking yeah coward kind of missed the missed the mark there uh would you let the lions fuck your girl on instagram live if this was no jumper max is saying thumbs down pug pug is in studio memes out uh for a couple days pug would you yes you would i would never let a team fuck my girl.
Yeah, me neither. That's just how I operate.
Kind of old school. I don't know.
It would be kind of cool. You'd probably get a game ball or something.
Now, Jaden Daniels, on the other hand. Yeah.
Yeah. The other Monday Night Football game.
I think they should always have two Monday Night Football games with that type of disparity

because it made the Lions-Seahawks game even more enjoyable.

Well, I think in this situation it was perfect,

but I don't like it.

I usually don't like it,

but if you're going to do it,

have one game that's imminently forgettable.

And then that way,

when it's about time for the other game to kick off,

you're like, fuck yeah, I get to watch football now. All right, I'm going to look right now.
Flex scheduling. Week five.
What would you? This would be not so bad. We could run it back.
Yeah. Dolphins Patriots kick off first on Monday Night Football.
And then the Bills Texans play right after. That'd be great.
Be great. The Dolphins are a tough, tough, tough watch.
And the Titans are a tough watch. But the Titans compared, especially with Mason Rudolph, Mason Rudolph makes the Titans at least football adjacent.
The Dolphins are. That makes no sense.
What do you mean? It does because huntley doesn't know that offense at all is to uh the most underrated quarterback in the nfl i think they should pay him more seriously if he's a shanahan disciple it's like shanahan is the king of just putting it but not a quarterback as kind of kind of like he has all the weapons no but remember mike doesn't matter as much mike shanahan on the shana Cam said Brock Purdy was the guy right away. That's true.
They did it with Jimmy G. True.
Yeah, Purdy makes a big difference there, too. They also drafted Trey Lance.
Also drafted Trey Lance. But, yeah, the Dolphins are a mess.
Is Mike McDaniel coaching for his job? I don't know. Is he hot seat? He's in the shade in Miami.
Yeah. He looked bewildered.
He looked like it was, he was watching something that he just had no answers to. And, uh, shout out all the people who have fantasy players on the dolphins.
That's, that's brutal. Yeah.
Tyree kills about to do something weird in the next coming weeks. I'm sure it's just a tough, tough watch.
And I don't, I that losing your quarterback should, obviously, if you go to your backup quarterback, you're probably already fucked. But I didn't think the Dolphins would be this fucked.
Like, I didn't think that their offense would look this bad. Maybe that's just naive of me, but it's a disaster.
I think if you're Mike McDaniel or you're running an offshoot of the Shanahan offense, you have to have a guy that's your backup that's been with you for a while.

Yeah.

Like importing a dude, which they kind of had.

They kind of had that until Skyler got hurt.

Why isn't Ryan Tannehill out there?

Yeah, I think with Huntley especially,

he is just learning what's going on there

and having to do all the motions and stuff.

They do a lot of cute stuff in Miami.

You have to be very familiar with the cute stuff in order to pull it off.

Trade for Jameis.

Imagine Jameis in those teals.

We're about to go. the motions and stuff.
They do a lot of cute stuff in Miami. You have to be very familiar with the cute stuff in order to pull it off.
Trade for Jameis. Imagine Jameis and those teals.
What about Brett Favre? Brett Favre would be good. Tebow.
He could do it. You should sign Tebow, Kaepernick, Johnny Manziel, and RG3.
And just see who's the best for it. And just let us watch those guys play.
Yeah. Let us watch the open competition.
Yep. The Titans are good win.
Will Levis, that was a tough clip where he was like, I didn't see the guy at all. He winced on the sidelines.
Well, the wince was his shoulder. But yeah, that was tough for our boy Will.
So I don't know what the future is. The Titans, they're not a bad team.
They just could win. Here's the question for the Titans, and I think they're going to have to wrestle with this because I think if you play Mason Rudolph, Will Levis obviously is not there yet.
He's not even close to there yet. It's a work in progress.
Do you stick with Will Levis, work in progress, hope that he gets better, and if he doesn't, you're going to be drafting top five. That's what they're saying.
Or do you go with Mason Rudolph, and Mason Rudolph, I think, probably wins you seven games. Obviously, he just won you one, so I'm saying six more.
I'm not saying they're going to get to eight, nine. He's not going to be lighting up the world, but his competency has a floor to it that probably gets them more to the 10thth 15th draft pick yeah i i think callahan said after the game will levis is our quarterback which is the second time he said that this year uh which is not good that he's had to say it twice i think you do i think that's the right move though he said he said will's our quarterback barring injury so if he's healthy he's going to play i think it's the right move too because what if what if he figures it out what if he what if he turns it on the second half of the season and where things end up okay for the Titans? Then you feel good about going into next year with Will and you're probably drafting in the middle of the first round and that's good but then if it doesn't go well, guess what? You're going to need a quarterback.
Yeah, if it doesn't go well, you're wanting a quarterback anyway and that's where you want to be in the top five. So yeah, I think it's a no-brainer that you've got to stick with Will Levis.
Not saying he's played to the point where he keeps but i think that just is an organization that's the smarter move yeah also we had a moment in that game that left i think everybody confused by this uh yeah the onside punt that wasn't in the landing zone and then that resulted in effectively a 40 yard penalty yeah shout out everyone who had the under uh i feel for you life life's too short, but that was crazy. It ended up being 40 yards, right? They got 43 yards.
So they punted from the 20? I believe so. They did a safety kick, which you can punt if you want to, but they also declared it to be onside.
And they punted it further than the landing zone. Yeah, so the strategy on that is to kick it really high in the air and then hope that the other team doesn't call for a fair catch, which is what happened.
They didn't call for a fair catch. So the ball lands, the Dolphins recover, and then they throw all the flags.
The announcers had no idea what was going on. The ref had no idea.
They had to figure it out. The ref mumbled through it.
Also, that ref that did not call the touchdown for Amon Ross St. Brown.
I think he just turned into a fan. There was a ref behind him who called it, but yeah.
For a catch like that, you need both hands up. I need to see an emphatic touchdown.
Going back to the 80s, for some reason, I want to say mid-90s, refs stopped doing goofy, over-the-top, emphatic touchdown celebrations and penalty calls. They used to go out there and just lean back a little bit, slouch their shoulders, and just throw them up like they were speaking in tongues.
They missed a great opportunity there because the best touchdown ref moment is when they confer and they talk for like two seconds, and then they both simultaneously do it. That's the best.
That's a good one. That's a great shit.
They stole that from us. Never forget what they took from you.
Also, we should have mentioned Kenneth Walker with the greatest broken tackle of all time. I don't know how his neck is still on.
Yeah, he got double flipped. They had a wrestling match, a full wrestling match broke out between, was it Anzalone? I think it was.
And Kenneth Walker and Kenneth Walker won. It looked like a Steven Seagal movie where they're doing a keto on each other.
Slow-mo, yeah. That was awesome.
And then Montgomery had that sick catch and run at the end of the game where he just bounced off three dudes. Yep.
That was a great game. That was a great game of football.
And the Titans-Dolphins. So going back real quick, Mike Ritano, coach over his job.
I think he might be because he might lose the locker room. We knew that was a possibility.
He needs to keep eyes on the locker room at all times. He's got to air tag that locker room.
I don't want him to lose the locker room. I don't want him to lose his job.
I think the league is more fun when Mike McDaniel is a coach and I still think he's a very good coach but I think when you're the happy-go-lucky guy and shit goes bad, it could get ugly.

It could turn on you fast. They need a statement win against the Patriots.

Oh, yeah, that's going to be...

Wait, what's the...

Check out DraftKings.

Let's see what's the over-under.

Where are they playing?

Yikes, that's a bad game, Hank.

Oh.

Whose line is it anyway? Whose line is it anyway on DraftKings? Where are they playing? Yikes, that's a bad game, Hank. Oh.
Oh.

Whose line is it anyway?

Whose line is it anyway?

Where's the game on DraftKings?

Games in New England?

New England.

Okay.

I think it's Patriots minus one.

Over under?

That's the key.

30.

37.

36 and 35 and a half.

You were right about the spread. You were right about the over under.
35 and a half? Yeah. We know ball.
Wow, 35 and a half. You were right about the spread.

You were right about the over.

35 and a half?

Yeah.

We know ball.

Wow, we do know ball.

That's gross.

That's a gross game.

I think I might have to take the over on that.

I think I might just have to figure out how to bet that game and just be like,

gross.

So, yeah.

As I say it, I'm just like, ugh.

With McDaniel, it looks way worse, too,

when you're losing the locker room and the cute plays don't work. Correct.
You look more incompetent than you really are. Yes.
I'm nervous about the locker room for McDaniel. It's a fair criticism.
By the way, people were fairly like, hey, we didn't get any Sunday night football talk. The Ravens are a wagon.
When the Ravens are on the ball like that, they're going to be a monster of a team. And that's a problem with the Bills too, is their defense, not bad, but their defense against the run, very bad.
Yeah. So Ravens, like I just, we don't usually talk at length about Sunday night football, but I think the Ravens are like, that's an 0-2, the team that started 0-2 that I never thought was going to be in trouble.
Obviously the Raiders loss was a weird loss, but we said it, I think, at the time that they were 0-2 and they outgained their opponents by like 100-plus yards both games. That one was always going to turn back for the Ravens are not an 0-2 team.
They're a really good team. That's why they weren't a pinky team.
Because it has to be a team that you don't think has a chance. I believe in the Ravens potentially winning a Super Bowl this year.
I actually think they absolutely could. Yeah.
And Lamar, so we joked about Lamar losing all that weight because he was a fat ass. He was super fat.
Well, when he saw, I think it was when Trump got indicted or when he turned himself in and Trump's height and weight was perfectly matched to Lamar Jackson. I thought it was Derrick Henry.
No, it was Lamar. Okay.
It was Lamar. I think it was 6'3 and 215.
Okay. And Lamar saw that and he was like, fuck, I got to lose some weight.
I got to get in shape. And so he lost weight.
I didn't think there was anything wrong with him, but just by watching the games, I feel like Lamar- Wait, Trump or Lamar? Both. Okay.
I think they're both healthy as oxys. Yeah.
Lamar is faster than he was. I think he's faster than he was last year I'd agree he was like very shifty last year he was doing a lot of those start stop things super elusive but this year I feel like he's he's got the jets again yeah I do too and they have so many weapons they have dudes except for Justin Tucker who's washed yeah very washed beyond why I'd be concerned um should we talk a little college ball let's talk a little college we're going to talk some more college ball with booger in a minute but let's talk some college ball uh I we have to start the the number one story is obviously that Georgia Bama game was fucking incredible a big fuck you to everyone who said that college football regular season doesn't matter anymore and you won't get big games because that was that scene in Tuscaloosa on Saturday night.
Oh, the playoff, oh, this. You can't replicate that.
Yeah, and you know what I loved about that game? I love the fact that we got the viral moments, the crowd shots of the sad fans, but we got them on both sides. Yes.
And you never see that in a game. Oh, the video that's going around of Georgia's sideline going nuts after they scored to go ahead with like two and a half minutes left.
And then Ryan Williams scoring. And Ryan Williams, I don't understand.
His body control is ball skills. He looked like he was in the Matrix.
Yeah. You're back to the defender with the ball.
You should never do that. Like, he stood there making a low post move, and then still it worked.
He did, like, a spin move with part of his body in the air. He did a fake.
And then the rest of his body on the ground. He looked like a cat.
Yeah. When you drop a cat from 10 feet in the air.
I'm not even talking about that one. I'm talking about the earlier one where he basically did the Hakeem dream shake.
Yeah, yeah. It was like, what are you doing, dude? This is how you get killed on an SEC field.
And that goes for Jalen Milrow, too, just running sideways on an SEC field. Yeah, but that last catch that he had was one of the most athletic things I've ever seen in my entire life.
He's 17. People forget that he's 17 years old.
17, 17 17 and uh after the game he changed his profile picture to a picture of mike vick holding a dog oh that's because he just beat the dogs they did just beat the dogs also he had the eye black kill everybody people were getting upset about that the program it's the program it's the program so just shut the hell up it's the program it also just an awesome thing to have on your eye black. Yeah.
If you actually got upset about that, memes yourself. Yeah.
Memes yourself. Memes yourself.
Did you guys see the... Max, I just sent it to you.
I'm sending you two clips. I should have sent it to you before.
Bad job by me. The Japanese announcers calling that final...
No, I didn't see that. It's awesome.
They just... Everything's better when the Japanese announcers are going nuts.
That reminds me. I did i i watched uh with a sound on for part of the dolphins titans game as the other game was on but my hack to that if you're watching bad football watch it on espn deportes oh because it had a little spice to it and and when the announcers are like going a mile a minute speaking in spanish and then stop to overpronunciate Storm Duck and then go back.

It's electric.

It's great TV.

His name's not spelled like that weird over Sillo.

What are you doing?

Did he spell Ryan Williams R-Y-E-N?

Yeah, he did.

Max just did.

He got the job done.

Okay.

All right.

Play it. i don't know if someone just dubbed this over for a different call which could have very well i could have gotten duped i don't care yeah i don't care either i don't care i.
I want to listen to more American sports highlights in other languages. Yes.
They're better. Yes.
So that game was incredible. I do think – and Booger – well, I'll save it for Booger because we have a discussion about does Kirby Smart have an Alabama problem.
They're 1-6 against Alabama under Kirby Smart. Kaelin DeBoer needs a ton of credit because his teams – something about Kaelin DeBoer, like you've seen it in these big games, they're always ready to go.
And they jumped on him. Now they also give up leads, but they jumped on him so fast.
It was awesome. Awesome.
Awesome, awesome game. And now Georgia, they got to win.
They have Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Texas. You got to probably go 2-1 in that.
Yeah, in a weird way, I don't think I'm any more confident or less confident in either Alabama or Georgia after this game because it was two halves. Alabama's first half, best team in the country.
Georgia's second half, best team in the country. Right.
Right. Like Georgia coming back gets credit because you thought they were just dead.
But the margin for error now for Georgia is a lot smaller. Yeah.
I have a question for you, Big Cat. Yeah.
Was Nick Saban holding Alabama back? He might have been. Was Nick Saban the problem? He might have been.
Are they better without Nick Saban? I'm addicted to Nick Saban shots during the game where he just looks miserable. And it's the greatest game we've ever seen.
And it's like everyone's losing their minds,

and he just looks disgusted because it's probably like the cornerback

opened his hips a little too quickly on the other side of the field,

not even the side where the pass was completed.

It's just bad football.

He just sees that and he goes, yeah, this is just not enjoyable to watch.

What kind of game do you think would be enjoyable for Nick Saban to watch?

Like a 14-14 game, good tackling, 3.3 yards of carry, not doing anything crazy out there. Yeah.
Just control the line of scrimmage. He probably loves Maxion.
Yeah. Hunt when you need to punt.
That Frank Beamer clip where it's a 0-0 tie. Virginia Tech-Wake Forest at the end of the game he's celebrating.
Yeah. No, Maxion would be too much for Saban because there's too many mistakes.
He probably wants to watch. Army Navy.
Army Navy would be, yeah, that's primo ball. I think Belichick might like that one a lot.
I think Saban would love. What's that college in Ohio? Like real small one.
That's John Carroll. Yeah.
He would like watching a John Carroll Holy Cross game. Yeah.
That's football. By the way, Navy is really good.
They're undefeated. Yeah.
And I think they play Ohio State in a couple weeks, which should be fun because you never know. Never know.
Also, should we actually hire Conner Stallions? Because he did hit me up. Yeah.
Like, why not? Is the high school season not going well? No. He said when the high school season's over, he's open to, he's like, I'll have a couple months.
I think we have to. I think we got to hire him.
Just hire him as our secret service for PMT. We got to hire him, have him scope out new heights, figure out how we can take that motherfucker out.
Just check out, see what Subway's doing with their cheesesteak. Yeah.
Go test a bunch of cheesesteaks, a bunch of coffees. I think we have to, right? I would love that.
He shows up in the background on the McAfee show wearing those sunglasses. He could sit on the other side of where Meme sits, so we can barely see him, but he can chime in whenever he wants.
Also, people aren't going to fuck with us if we get him. No, definitely not.
They know better. He'll write a manifesto on you.
All right. So I'll follow up.
We'll hire him if his cover letter to us is a manifesto. Okay.
I'll tell him that. I'll tell him that.
All right. So now is the portion of the show that we hype up Travis Hunter.
What is he? Heisman now on DraftKings? He was down to plus 750 the other day. I don't know what he's at now.
I forgot. I got a 40.
40? That's nice. 40.
I got a 20. He is the best football player in the country.
So this was, I want to play this clip real quick. This was before the game against UCF where UCF was a 14-point favorite, and Urban Meyer basically said Travis Hunter isn't going to be able to handle the heat.
Now, mind you, Travis Hunter plays at high altitude, but how stupid can you be, Urban? Where's he from? He's from Florida, I believe. Interesting.
He might be from Georgia. No, he's from Florida.
Is he? Yeah. He's from Florida.
I think Urban just couldn't handle it. So that makes no sense.
Double no sense. Double no sense.
How is he going to be able to take losses? Probably not well. He probably won't feel good after losses and have panic attacks.
Alright, so play this clip. This is 133 plays of this.
Brandon, you had 21 catches in a game. You also played two ways.
I don't know if he's going to be able to handle this heat here now. It's hot here.
I know he's from here, but it's hot here. Your thoughts on Travis? Hold on, Coach.
Why are we talking about receivers? Yeah! We're talking about DBs. We'll get paid to do that.
We'll get paid to do that. Listen, Coach, take Travis Hunter.
Take Colorado out of Florida. It's no problem.
We're talking about 20-something catches. I don't care about his production on the defensive side.
No problem. Look at you.
Look at Mark Ingram up there. He's sweating through his suit.
This is a real home field advantage. When I played here, I got two IVs before the game, two IVs at halftime, and two after the game.
This is real deal, and so it's really going to affect him today. Okay, so how much did it affect Travis Hunter? How about this? 128 snaps, nine catches, 89 yards, a touchdown, and then an interception and a pass defense, two tackles.
And he could have had more yards receiving too. Deion took him out of the game.
Wow, did that really affect Travis Hunter? 128 snaps in the big bad Florida Heat. The dude is just different.
He should be your Heisman. He's incredible.
Also, Brandon Marshall saying he got six IVs during a game is kind of wild. Yeah, that's too many IVs.
That's too many IVs. Yeah.
He's currently third in Heisman betting at 7-1. Yeah, and this was a big win for Colorado because this was a game that everyone thought they would lose.
They're now 4-1. I know they still have a tough Big 12 schedule.
And again, we're not even talking about Deion or Shadour. We're just a Travis Hunter podcast.
That's it. Travis Hunter deserves the respect.
He might be the best college football player I've ever seen. Yeah.
How about that? How about that? I'll take it one further. PFT, let's play a quick game.
What dumb thing did Hugh Freeze say this week? He said, I don't think Freeze can handle the heat. Freeze can handle the heat.
Yeah, I like that. I like that.
He should actually do that because he can't. So Hugh Freeze, who's won everywhere.
First time he's having a little resistance, things are not going well. He's maybe the worst loser of all time.
He said after his loss to Oklahoma, which they probably should have won that game, they were up. He said, I won't comment on what happened before I was here, the roster, what it was.
Everybody can make their own determination on that, on how many people left in the recruiting rankings and what was brought in, which is literally commenting on it. And then he said, I think you all are aware of what we inherited.
Our AD has done a marvelous job of explaining that. He did to me before I took the job, with the previous recruiting classes not being what you need to compete at a high level, and 57 transfers out in my previous three years before my arrival, and then said, saying how something really is.
He keeps getting blamed for throwing people under the bus. Yeah.
I don't know why he keeps getting blamed for that. This is like when Doug Peterson said the time for speeches are over.
Yeah. No more rah-rah.
And then proceed to give a speech. I'm not going to talk about what happened before I got here, but the recruits suck.
And the guys I'm coaching right now suck. And I'm throwing my entire team under the bus because suck it's not my fault i'm fucking hugh freeze i don't i don't make excuses for things i'm not sitting here counting the number of transfers that we've had leave we had 57 transfers out in the previous three years before my arrival but that's not something i spend time considering what a piece of shit yeah hugh freeze um listen hugh if uh things aren't going for you just uh start cheating yeah start well first before yeah you've done the first part blame everyone else this is back-to-back weeks where you remember he said that he uh nine times out of ten they beat arkansas and then this week he's like look i'm not going to talk about uh the situation here but the situation is terrible and everyone that they recruited before me sucks and now i'm have a job of coaching sucky players and oh yeah after this press conference i'm gonna go give a speech to these sucky players and tell them hey i need you to fucking die for me i have a question for you big cat yeah whose job is it to make players better at playing football the previous coach oh i thought you said the ad no no okay all right coach that they had before you coach you could see i get confused usually the ad is the one who's making them better this is the year where he has to take all the coaches that are all the coach that they had before you coached.
You could see I get confused. Usually the AD is the one who's making them better.

This is the year where he has to take all the players that were coached wrong

and undo all that bad coaching.

Yes.

And then next year, he actually gets to build them back up again.

Hugh Freeze, what an idiot.

Yeah.

He's lost a lot of weight.

Is he on Ozempic?

He must be.

I think he's thinned out a little bit.

Yeah.

Or it's just the losses.

He's got the urban-ish situation where losses just take so much out of him that he loses weight. You should watch that Aaron Hernandez show, by the way.
Is it good? No. It's one of the worst shows I've ever seen, but I can't stop watching it.
I figured it would probably not be the best. The guy they have playing Urban Meyer, he's like a cartoon villain version of Urban Meyer, who's also kind of a cartoon villain.
Okay. Of Urban Meyer.
It's excellent. Yeah.
Other big one was Kentuckyentucky shout out big blue nation going to ole miss beating ole miss after they wiped the floor with their non-conference schedule ole miss back into the sec like this is what happens yeah it's a listen kentucky almost did this to georgia i don't think that they've got a bad their offense offense is kind of weird. I'll tell them that.
Their offense, not great. But Mark Stoops, great coach, and Ole Miss thought that maybe we're going to be ranked in the top five.
Doesn't look good for Lane Kiffin. Yeah.
Does not look good. But he is in that perfect spot where if he has two losses this year, that great for lane kiffin yeah that's well that's

probably a playoff berth that's what he does lane kiffin is going to get you some high scoring games he's going to have a quarterback that's in the heisman discussion at least through uh halfway through the season and then he's not going to win a championship yeah and here's the other thing about lane kiffin where he's in a really nice spot uh yeah so they have lsu at lsu uh oklahoma and Georgia, both at home.

So, I mean,

if they have LSU, at LSU, Oklahoma, and Georgia, both at home. So, I mean, if they have two losses, they probably would still be in the playoff because that would mean they beat at least one of those teams.
Yeah. Not the strongest of wins, but still I think that a two-loss SEC team would probably go to the playoff.
But Lane Kiffin's in a good spot because no matter how this season goes, he's going to get a raise because Florida's open. Yeah.
So it doesn't matter whether he stays or leaves. He's getting more money no matter what.
Yeah, that's a built-in raise whenever a big school like that opens. Yeah.
Everyone in Florida wants him very bad. And, yeah, that would be the raise.
Did you have a feeling one way or the other about the end of Miami game, whether he caught it or not? I thought, yes, I did. I had a couple thoughts.
When I first watched it and I watched the replay, I thought touchdown. Then I thought, what are the refs thinking right now? And I don't think the refs wanted to give Virginia Tech that win and then have to leave the stadium in Miami.
See, I watched it and I was like, I don't think this is a touchdown in any world. It's just the ball's moving.
Guys are out of bounds. The one thing that I took away from it, we lean way too much on, well, it's not enough to overturn it.
Yeah. As if a bad call can't be overturned just because, like, well, that was a call on the field.
Yeah, I do think, though, whatever they called on the field was going to stay. Yeah, see, I watched the replay.
I was like, no, this was not a completion. Like, it was a crazy play, but it was just not a completion.
It was so close. I watched it probably, like, six times.
However many times I showed the replay live, I stared at the TV, and I watched all of them, and I wasn't sure, but I thought it was a catch. I thought like we're watching it right now.
Also, it's just way more fun if it's a catch. That was part of it.
It would have been the most Miami loss. And now we've got Miami at Cal game day going to Cal.
Love it. I saw somebody.
I forget who it was. I want to give him credit if I can track this down.
Somebody said that they should sell t-shirts like Catholics versus convicts. Yeah.
But have it say woke versus coke. Ooh, I like that.
I feel like that would be a really good one. That is a good one.
Yeah, I don't think he had it long enough. It just always was moving.
Who knows? But that was nice controversy on a Friday night. And then, yeah, the Big 12 was wide open, which we expected.
But it's more wide open than we even expected because Utah lost at home to Arizona, which Cam Rising, just fucking play football, please. Is there a possibility that the group of five school doesn't get the 12 spot, but gets the 11 spot? I don't know.
I don't think so. Maybe.
Thinking Dukes? It's too early for that. But yeah, I'm definitely thinking UNLV, Hajj comes, Hajj was awesome.
I think if it's an undefeated Dukes, undefeated UNLV, it'll go to UNLV. I would agree with that because UNLV is played, will probably end up playing more big boys, I believe.
Slightly bigger boys. They're playing a little bit bigger of boys.
Sunbelt's boys are not as big this year. Well, UNLV also went to Kansas when they were ranked and they beat Houston at Houston.
So the boys they're playing are slightly larger. Kansas wasn't ranked.
That was their bowl game. We thought UNC was going to be big boys.
And UNC. Well, we did retire Mack Brown.
Yeah, true. We made him quit.
And UNLV still has Syracuse, a slightly bigger boy, and Oregon State, a slightly bigger boy. But if you want to talk about teams that are playing with a bunch of just little children out there, Liberty.
If Liberty goes undefeated, then there's a one loss UNLV

I feel like you still got to put

UNLV in. Yeah, I'd agree.

Especially with their backup. This is like

such a great story. It would be

I feel like college football would want it too

being like CNIL doesn't matter. Yeah, or

Boise State. We should throw them in there too because

they have maybe the best player. Ashton JT.

Sorry, one of the best players. He's the

second best player but he's not

close enough to be considered

for Heisman because only Travis Hunter

Thank you. Because they have maybe the best player in college.
Ashton Gentry. Sorry, one of the best players in college football.
He's the second best player, but he's not close enough to be considered for Heisman because only Travis Hunter should. Right.
But yeah, Gentry's got video game numbers. He basically is playing, when you play college football and you're like, all I'm going to do is just try to get my guy, the Heisman, like go out at the one on an interception so you can get him more touchdowns.
He has through five games, 82 carries, 845 yards, 13 touchdowns. It's crazy, and he's broken 200 yards a couple times.
What was his high game there? Oh, he had a crazy one. They look like Barry Sanders.
Yeah, and he breaks, and it's just great because on a Saturday you're watching all this football. It gets late in the day.
It's evening time, and then you just see a clip pop up, and it's just great because on a Saturday, you're watching all this football. It gets late in the day.

It's evening time, and then you just see a clip pop up,

and it's just Gentry breaking like an 80-yard touchdown.

I've got some advice for our listeners, and you can take it or leave it, but this weekend in college football might be the perfect weekend

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You think it's Apple picking weekend? Apple picking. picking yeah go go to the mall run some errands apple picking i feel like this is the weekend to do it because you're going to want to build up all that stock for october 12th yeah playoff baseball though playoff baseball that's true that's a good point max off baseball good but this weekend is one uh it's like the meme she's like i i think he's about college football.
And the guy's like, no, I'm thinking about how to make her think I don't care about college football this weekend. Yeah, there's no college football on this weekend.
Yeah, start planning that shit out right now. Yeah.
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Henry.

My hot seat is anyone who drafted Chris McCaffrey in fantasy.

So he has double Achilles tendonitis. Is he retire what do you think hank i think he is you you you no hank's been saying no i saw a clip on bussin of whitney talking about someone and then he talked about it on our podcast yep uh the walls at barstool sports have been saying if you you walk down the hallway, there's like one specific spot.
It's right after Max's desk, right before you get to Mr. Pair, where there's a guy who's got sunglasses on because he was just probably golfing.
And he's like, I'm hearing Chris McCaffrey might retire. That's a wall.
The wall is talking. Double Achilles tendonitis is not good.
And then having one that's worse than the other, that's doubly worse. Oh, is that true? That's what I think Schefter reported.
You mean the ultimate insider? Yeah. So he's been dealing with two Achilles, but it's been fine because they've both been hurting the same way.
And now one's a little bit worse, and that's what the German doctor's looking at. Hank? It feels like you're definitely not playing this season.
Should we credit the Walls? No. Does the Wall want credit? The Walls doesn't want credit, but he feels like it's going to happen.
Are you talking about the VP debate tonight? No. No.
We're talking about the wood walls. Oh, the wooden walls.
Okay. The wooden walls with locks on them.

No, because the walls, you know, they didn't want to report it publicly.

So it's like they like to whisper to people walking by, but there's no point in asking

for credit after if you didn't report it before.

Yeah.

But it's nice, you know, I'm sure the wall's like, damn.

Yeah.

The wall's like, damn, I was ahead of this.

The walls were all over it, yeah.

Big time ahead of this.

So where do you think the walls heard it from? Because somebody would have to tell it to the walls. Probably just some random guy.
Yeah, probably just some random guy. Probably opened up a candy bar like an O.
Henry, and it was just written on there. Yeah.
When did the walls hear about this? Week ago. Week two.
Week two. It was before, yeah, it was before he went to Germany and before the...
Yeah, everything that's happened since the Walls... Like the Walls was laughed at when he said it.
Right, everything that's happened since the Walls said that Chris McCaffrey's contemplating retirement has made it look like the Walls are stronger than ever. Now, have the Walls heard anything from our good friend Mike Florio about any sort of legal recourse that could happen for fantasy football owners who might have drafted this player?

The Walls is not a fan of Mike Florio and thinks he's fake news and a fraud and a fan fictionist.

About what team?

Just a lot of teams.

Name our team.

Patriots, Jets.

So I don't think The Walls is too worried about Mike Florio.

Is The Walls known for throwing darts?

Not yet. On the course, on the golf course.
On the golf course, but not. I'm talking about like stories.
Like you don't just throw stuff at the wall, see if it sticks. The walls could dunk.
Was there a hole in this wall that was about eight inches off the ground? Maybe. Maybe.
Okay. But yeah, he's definitely not going to play this year.

And it sucks.

Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Is that an actual report? No, that's just Henry Lockwood.

Remove the wall from the conversation.

That's just me after seeing the report that was actually reported.

If you have double Achilles tendonitis,

it seems impossible that you'd come back this year.

So that's just my take. Okay.
From no medical background? That's not a report, no. That's not a report nor a rumor.
Do you know what tendonitis is? Achilles tendonitis? Yeah. I just know from all the things I've read, it's impossible to come back from quickly.
On one, let alone two. Yeah, double? Double? Double, it seems like if you have it, I don't know, so I'm sure people will get mad at me for this, but it feels like if you have one bad Achilles tendonitis, you can have a boot or walk around and kind of like crutches or whatever.
If you have both. What do you do? Yeah.
But if you have two, do you have one? Because the whole thing about Achilles. Well, it's just your whole life is pain.
But when you say like my Achilles heel is this one thing it's because you have one issue everything else is great so if you have two of them is that even bad or you're in double the amount of pain it might just be in double so chris recapt was just walking around in a johnny cash song yeah okay occurs when the tendon that connects the back of your leg to your heel becomes swollen and painful near the bottom of the foot uh yeah it causes swelling swelling and pain. And if you don't let it fully heal, it's very easy to tear.
Oh. Okay.
Has he considered not being a pussy? Has he considered suing the walls? No, the walls. Yeah, the walls didn't say anything.
Alright, what's your cool throne? My cool throne is Jimmy Carter.

Yeah.

Happy birthday.

Is today a wake up day?

A hundredth birthday?

You've got to wake up.

First president to live to a hundred.

He's going to get all up in that cake today.

This is Jimmy's big day.

Wow.

What's the weird stat?

Who's the first president to be born in a hospital?

Was it George H.W. Bush? Is that true? Yeah.
You're thinking of Kenya. First president to be born in a hospital.
Or was it Jimmy Carter? Yeah, it was Jimmy Carter. That's crazy.
Jimmy's 100. Wild wild that he lived to 100 and he's the first president to do that considering how bad it ages you but he was only in office for four years yeah um we can say jimmy carter he was president of the united states much better human being he's an all-time human being yeah well we don't know is he still is i didn't say that is he still a human being because he doesn't wake up i think he he is a human i I don't know.
Is he still a human being?

Because he doesn't wake up.

I think he is a human.

I don't know if being is the right word.

I think you have to wake up.

He's a human.

He's a human existence.

I hope that he woke up today.

I really do.

Yeah, I hope he did.

I hope he didn't wake up.

Big T always says that Jimmy, he was put into hospice, what, like two years ago?

Yeah.

Three years ago.

His health has been bad for a while. He's been beaten the fuck out of hospice.
But it's because he stopped building houses. Yep.
He got off roofs. Need to get him back on the roof.
Maybe. Get him back on the roof.
Congrats, Jimmy. Congrats, Jimmy.
You made it. Good job, Hank.
On both the Christian McCaffrey Report and Jimmy Carter. Thanks.
I'll tell the walls.

Okay.

My hot seat is Woj because, as we speculated,

the torch might be getting passed to Adam Schefter, which is crazy.

If you're Adam Schefter, don't you enjoy NBA

because you get to put your phone down for a little bit?

No, PFT.

He is addicted to it.

No, PFT.

He can't stop breaking news.

So Schefter might take over as the NBA insider.

No, no, no.

The ultimate insider.

The ultimate insider.

That's how it was reported, and that's why, because I thought the same thing.

I was like, Schefter, what are you doing, man?

You're going to spend the rest of your life with your phone up to the glass every time you shower?

Like, what are you doing?

Yeah.

But if ESPN comes to him and says, hey, Sche hey shefter open this envelope and inside it just says ultimate insider you have to take that you have to get a an office with the door just so you can put ultimate insider ultimate insider he's adam shefter is becoming his own social media platform yeah and p and you post on it by being an agent and calling adam shefter and giving him the scoop and then then he just puts that out. And if you subscribe to Adam Schefter, he should do his own app.
Yeah. What a source.
By the way, that is. So the front office sports that exclusive Adam Schefter could be a candidate to replace Woj as ESPN's senior NBA insider.
In this scenario, Schefter would cover both the NFL and NBA as what a source called the ultimate insider. That source, Adam Schefter.

I love the fact.

100% he said, hey, they're talking about me being the ultimate insider.

I love the fact that there's an Adam Schefter, four Adam Schefters out there that makes this

news.

But it was Adam Schefter.

Yeah.

Who just sent it to them.

He is a one-man show, man.

I mean, I hope we can get him still on the show if he becomes the ultimate insider.

Yeah, you just do it for the ultimate insider title. There's nothing you do when someone says hey you want to be the ultimate insider fuck yes i do news now is he gonna do like he's gonna replace cnn everything he's the ultimate insider uh okay good job cool throne oh cool throne uh that my cool throne was gonna be jimmy carter ah congrats jimmy carter yeah uh should should i do my fire fest right now because it happened today yeah yeah bad fire fest bad fire fest i won't do one on friday uh but this morning we came into the office a little bit early uh had to get here at 9 a.m we're doing a commercial shoot and so i uh i get in my car start up the el camino running beautifully as always and i never take the highway to go to work this is the part that confused me el camino i never take the highway i usually take a back road for many reasons number one just being on the highway with that car if i have to go fast sometimes it's a little dicey but i got on the highway traffic was there a thought beforehand like i'm yeah was there yeah was there like a one second like is a bad idea on the highway? No, so I take it on the highway a lot, but it's just better to, it's cooler to drive it around at like 35 miles per hour.
I also have a question. Yeah.
Is the Camino the everyday car? I feel like it's the everyday car. It has been in the summer, yeah.
It is since October. Well, I had it for July, August, September.
Ran beautifully all three of those months. I was on a nice little hot streak.
Got the license plate. Everything's looking good on it.
It's been in good shape. I get it on the highway.
I took the highway this morning because it was about seven minutes faster. And I figured, okay, I'll use those seven minutes.
Probably not a bad idea to take it on the highway, which I've done before. And I get about halfway to the office and I'm in the middle lane and the car just turns off.
It just shuts down. And traffic is pretty bad at this point.
It's not super bad, but it's bad. I can't change lanes.
I'm going up a hill. I've only got probably 20, 30 more feet left of coasting in front of me and I can't move the car at all.
And it just stops and it dies. And if you live in Chicago and you're going east on 90 on Wednesday, on Tuesday morning, I would like to take out a full page part of my take and apologize to you because I, I was the reason for the traffic jam because it died in the middle of the fucking highway today max can attest to this i was walking around the office not saying god damn it why did pft take the el camino i just was going around just to everyone be like why the fuck is he on 90 i was just so mad i was like why did he do that Yeah, I do it.
I'd never do it. Unless it's like super early where it saves me 10 minutes or if it's late at night, I'll take the highway sometimes.
But it was a nightmare. Having your car die in the middle of the highway.
In a rush hour. And then I started- You're a piece of shit.
I was a piece of shit this morning. I don't know what wrong with it it's been running perfectly and then i had people going around me and once every two minutes a car would stop as they're going around me roll their window down be like hey pft oh and i'd be like i can't i can't like wave at them i'm just like sitting there being miserable this gives me anxiety you're just telling the story i was sitting there sweating i tried to listen to a podcast uh just take my mind off it but then i felt guilty

about listening to a podcast as i'm waiting for the tow truck i it was too busy for me to get out

of the car and push it to the side uh and then eventually a very nice dude in a cement mixer

stopped parked across two lanes of traffic got out and he's like hey put it in neutral i put a

neutral he pushed it i rolled it to the side of the road physically or in the cement mixer truck no physically just gave it a shove then i'm on the side of the road so you could have done that no no it was it was not safe for one person i got it yeah i couldn't get out sense push it get back in yeah drive it because you couldn't go straight with the whip no because also traffic was going at that point almost full speed around me because i get next to me he gave you a block off that he blocked yeah he's my fullback and so he shoves me then i'm sitting on the side of the road i've got awls that are stopping pulling over for a picture we have an interview i'm coming up got an interview coming up and i'm just sitting there and there's an ad deal we had a commercial and. And in the past, I've not taken the El Camino if it's a long trip or if it's something that we know that we absolutely cannot be late for.
But I have driven it to the office every day for like the last three months and it's been perfect. And so, yeah, it got it got towed up to the shop.
And I think this is God telling me I can't have it all. No, you just can't drive it after summer.
Yeah, October. That was a problem.
It was like 60 degrees this morning. It's a September car.
It's too cold. Man.
I still got Jaden, which is nice. Yeah.
All right. I don't.
My cool throne was going to be Schefter becoming the ultimate insider. I had just a hot seat real quick before we get to booger and this comes from chai socks fan mike uh this is a tweet from october 1st 2023 so exactly one year ago today okay he said thank you to all my white socks twitter friends for sharing another season of socks baseball with me this was the worst season i can remember but the good news is that next year can't be any worse it got way worse it got way way worse i don't think it can get worse than this i jerry reindsdorf could do that i i don't know if you guys read that article so the white socks wentx went from they won 60 games last year.
They won 41 this year. So it got way worse.
If they lose more games next year, I will eat human shit. Okay.
I should have said that. I shouldn't have said that loud.
Jerry Reinsdorf, the story in The Athletic detailing just everything about the White Sox organization was insane. He is such a shithead.
They have a plane that only has eight first class seats for a major league baseball club.

They also have to like outsource their own analytics.

They said that some of the guys like teams are obviously so advanced in analytics now in baseball.

One of the there was an anonymous source that was, I think, in farm system and uh the coaching staff on his exit interview before the season ended they told him in the offseason he has to work on his command if you want to get really mad just think about how much money jerry reinsdorf has made on that team this year uh he bought the team for uh i think it was like a bushel of blueberries and 19 million dollars Yeah and it still makes money And he doesn't have to spend money on it And you know what's the craziest part If you ask Jerry Reinsworth He says this on the record He cares more about the White Sox than the Bulls That's the craziest part Baseball is his favorite sport In the entire world And he's this much shithead. What does he like about baseball? What does he like about the White Sox when they lose this many games? The lack of analytics.
Nobody got shot this year at a White Sox game this year, right? Some White Sox, Dave, yeah. With their belly fat.
With their belly fat. Yeah, smuggle the pistol in.
I do feel bad for White Sox fans. It's brutal, but it's just Jerry Reinsdorf's a piece of shit, and he's a monster.
He's an absolute monster. Isn't there a for the betterment of baseball clause? There should be.
I think that's something that the commissioner has. For the good of the game, you can step in and make Jerry sell the team.
Take it away. But then if he sells the White Sox.
So it's the Seventh Amendment or something? What is that? 25th. 25th Amendment.
25th Amendment. Yeah, yeah.
But if he sells the team, then the Bulls become his favorite team, and then he'll put all that losing energy into the Bulls. I think the White Sox still would be his favorite team.
He'd still show up? Yeah, he'd still show up. He's got a...
They said that he has a secret door in his suite that goes to the analytics department, which is just one guy with a mouse on a wheel.

Is Jerry Reinsdorf a better owner or a human being?

I guess human being.

Yeah.

Yeah.

As of right now.

I don't know.

He has since 2005.

Yeah.

I mean, he got Michael Jordan.

Seven. What? The White Sox won.
05. Yeah, count the rings.
Yeah. I think he might be a better owner.
He might be a better owner. I think he's a better owner than a human being.
He could be, and he's a really bad owner, yeah. All right.
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Okay, we now welcome on our very, very good friend, very special guest. He knows everything about college, NFL.
It is Booger McFarlane.ane you can see him on ESPN Boog uh thank you for joining us I love when you come on in the fall because we talk both college and NFL which would you like to start with because I have questions for both I'd like to start with pro because that allows us to get to the Washington commanders and I know one half of you are really excited about that yeah all'm very excited. All right, so let's do it.
I'm happy all the time, Boog. It's amazing.
My entire mood has changed just watching football this year. All right, so let's start with that.
What is the ceiling for the Washington Commanders this season? Because it feels like it's been adjusted to they might be the best team in the NFC East. Yeah, I think it's two parts to that.

One, the Philadelphia Eagles, there's something going on in their locker room.

Like, if you look at their last 10 or so games, like, they've only won, like, two out of their last 10 or something like that.

Jalen Hurts is talking about he and the coach are, you know, kind of sometimes get along,

sometimes they don't.

The defensive line seems to be out of shape.

They're nowhere near what they were during their Super Bowl year.

There's something amiss there.

And Dallas, like, Dallas can't get out of their own way plus michael parsons demarcus lawrence are injured and outside of cd lamb who is that throwing the football to and the giants are the giants and you couple all of that with the fact that jayden daniels looks to be not just the best rookie quarterback he's among the top 15 quarterbacks in football with the way he's taking care of the football, his accuracy, and the dynamic feature that he brings with his legs. So it's early.
I do caution PFT with that. It's early.
But the Washington Commanders look like the best team in the NFC East right now. Okay.
I was thinking back to the last time I was this happy as a Commanders fan. It was probably towards the end of the 2012 season when RG3 went on that run.
But people forget that when we started that season, RG3 had a great first game, no doubt about it, against the Saints. And he was a solid quarterback in the first half of the season too, but the team wasn't that great.
I think we started out 3-6. This seems to be like, if I were to compare that season with this year, I think Jaden Daniels is a better quarterback right now than RG3 was in 2012 at least through four games I think what he's doing is a little bit more sustainable than what Griffin did back in 2012 I know that Kyle Shanahan kind of changed the offense at that point and installed some stuff we haven't seen but I am also guarding myself against the fact that the first four defenses that we played against haven't been that great.
And I don't know if they haven't been that great because they played against us or if it's just the commanders are beating up on relatively easy defenses. So you tell me, do you think what Jaden's doing, is that a model for a sustainable quarterback in the NFL? Absolutely, because there's a couple of differences and a couple of reasons why it's sustainable and are kind of one in the same.
If you remember RG3, early on, he wowed you with his legs. Like there was a 50 or 60 yard run in there somewhere.
Jaden has yet really to break one of those 50, 60 yard Michael Vig, Lamar Jackson runs. Everything he's doing right now is with his arm and his poise.
And I think number two, doesn't he seem like he's just moving in slow motion, like he's having fun, like he's calm, like the game's not too fast for him? And to me, that's the sign of somebody that understands the offense that he's in. He understands what his role is.
And he knows that he's got some playmakers in Terry McLaurin, and he's able to get the football to them. And so there are some subtle differences, but I think you look at his accuracy.
I think he's what, 79, 80 percent, 80 percent completion percentage. I think you couple that with just his poise and demeanor, man.
Like you got to feel really good about what you see behind center. Like you juxtapose that to Will Levis.
Will Levis looks like all hell's about to break loose every time he touches the football. Yes.
And Will Levis has been in the league league a couple years. Now, I know he hadn't played a lot of football, but you just compare and contrast that to Jaden Daniels and just look at the two.
It's like daylight and dark, and that's why I think this is sustainable because once you get to a point where the game is moving slow, Patrick Mahomes, CJ Shroud, Josh Allen, the game moves really slow, then you feel like you can dictate to defenses what you want to do.

And it almost seems like Jaden is doing that right now. And that's really unheard of for a rookie outside of maybe what C.J.
Stroud did last year. Yeah, it does.
It looks like the game is easy. He's playing on easy mode, rookie mode right now.
All right, so I had a question off of something you just said there. You said you know it's early.
When is it no longer early? What point of the season are you kind of are what you are and you got to go forward with what that is all right let's have a little fun here normally in baseball they say look up when after memorial day right yeah so what what holiday do you think we look at in football and say that's that's our kind of line of demarcation where we can look up and kind of know who's who columbus day yeah no not columbus day halloween halloween guys let's get to let's get to halloween and by the end everybody will take their mask off and you know who's who that's the easy way to remember by the time you get by the time you get to halloween everyone takes their off, puts their costume up and you realize who's who. So it's still early until we get done trick or treating.
By the way, by the way, Big Cat, I know you have kids. PFT, not really sure about you.
I would guess no right now. I have a four year old son, Chris, that I made up.
OK, perfect. What kind of candy are we giving out for Halloween? So I do everything in my house.
My kids love every candy. I'm not worried about the candy.
The candy's easy. I got to figure out what I'm going to be for Halloween because my son keeps saying he wants me to be an eyeball.
So I think I have to be, what is it? What's Monsters, Inc.? Oh, yeah. Who's that guy? I don't know.
But I think I have to be. He keeps saying he wants me to be an eyeball.
I don't know where that came from, but I got to figure out. My costume is very important to me in Halloween because I want my kids to see the fun of it.
I dress up with them, and I have a lot of fun with them. So that's what I'm stressed about.
If I were you, I'd just be like Stay Puft. Okay.
All right. That works, too.
I'm wearing kind of a Stay Puff sweatshirt right now. That works.
Yeah. Everything fits.
You don't have to add anything. You just kind of feel right in, you know? I feel like that was always going to go to Stay Puff.
Yeah. He was setting you up for that.
I like to give out good size candy bars. I like to be known as the house on the street that hands out the full size because you remember that house.
You do. Or maybe I'll just zigzag this year and hand out toothbrushes.
There was always a dentist in the neighborhood. Yeah, or the random guy who handed out, like, quarters.
Yeah. It's like, what the fuck? Or just do apples and then have the parents freak out.
Like, careful, there's a razor in there. Yeah, 100% a razor.
All right, so sticking with the NFL, the Ravens. Are the Ravens – so they start 0-2.
They're very close. Obviously, the game against the Raiders was like, how do you lose that game? But do you think this Ravens team is a Super Bowl caliber team? Because I'm starting to buy back in on the Ravens.
The way they're running the football. Derek Henry – I thought Derek Henry would be washed at this point.
He rips off an 87-yard run on Sunday Night Football.

It's like, what the hell just happened?

So do you see the Ravens as the best team to challenge the Chiefs in the AFC,

or is it another team?

Well, the Ravens have been a Super Bowl contender for the last two or three years,

so that's nothing new.

I think what's going to make the Ravens different this year is if we can get the Ravens we saw against Buffalo in December and January. Yeah.
Like the Ravens won what, 14 games last year, 13? Like they've been a contender for a while. That's nothing new.
Can we get Lamar in the postseason to make those plays that he hadn't made the last couple of years where you can beat a Patrick Mahomes, you can beat a Josh Adam. Like, nobody remembers September, guys.
We remember December and January. And so while, you know, we wake up Monday morning, everybody on get up is, man, the Ravens are the team to beat, and they're the best team in football.
Okay, give me a break. It's September.
All right, let's get to December and January when everybody's been playing football for four or five months. The body's a little sore, the body's a little tired, can Lamar Jackson handle the mental pressure that he's going to be under to deliver in the postseason? Because as great as he's been, and he's been great, he's on the way to being a Hall of Famer, he's a two-time MVP, he's come up small in the postseason.
Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott have both come up small in the postseason. And so nothing they really do or nothing they can really do in September is going to really change my mind.
They have to change my mind come December and January. Yeah.
Yeah. What about the NFC West? I think that's an interesting division because you've got the Niners who going into the season, everybody thought, okay, we're going to get the same Niners again.
Now they've got some serious injury issues, not just with just with McCaffrey he's seen like German doctors which is it's never a good sign if you have to leave the continent to go see a doctor that's usually bad and then you've got obviously Debo and uh and Ayuk hasn't looked great this season so far that might be a little little leftovers from missing all training camp but you've got them and then you got the Seahawks who I think look then you've got the Seahawks, who I think look really good.

I think the Seahawks, despite the fact they lost Monday Night Football,

I think they look very good offensively.

I think their defense is okay, and I trust their head coach a lot.

So in that division, I don't know.

I feel like the 49ers, they were great before they had McCaffrey, right?

So even, let's just say, McCaffrey doesn't come back this season. Do you still count them as the favorites to win that division, or is it going to be somebody else? They can win the division without McCaffrey.
They can't win a Super Bowl without him. I think the Rams, Matthew Stafford seems like a shell of himself, like he's throwing a football to the other team.
They lost to the Bears. No offense, Big Cat.
The Bears defense is pretty good. Okay, buddy.
Let's

settle down a little bit. Alright.

I thought you knew, Ball. I guess you don't.

The Bears defense was good last year and they still didn't do anything.

They have a quarterback now.

Are you sure

about that? Yeah, I am sure about that. I know you're a

hater. I know you're a Caleb Williams hater.

I've seen what you said. I'm not

a hater. You're on the list.

Okay. Okay.

You're on the list. I want to hear the list in a

minute. But as far

Thank you. seeing what you said.
I'm not a hater. You're on the list.
Okay. Okay.
You're on the list. I want to hear the list in a minute, but as far as the NFC West is concerned, am I concerned about, you know, Kyler Murray? No, probably not.
Just because we know what Arizona is going to be. Seattle, Gino showed me something last night, even though they didn't win, they were missing four defensive starters last night to go into that building and take that team where they did.

They showed me a little something.

I think it comes down to between Seattle and San Francisco.

And I think at the end of the day, San Francisco is good enough to win it

because of their defense, but they're not going to be able to make hay

in the playoffs unless they get McCaffrey back.

And PFT, I agree with you.

Anytime you have to start going and catching multiple flights,

some of them over 10 hours to go see a doctor, that's usually not good because that's not the first opinion. That's like the second or third opinion that you've gone to get.
And when you got to go to another country for a guy to tell you something good, that's usually not a good thing. And it feels like Chris McCaffrey, every week, it gets more and more severe.
Next week, they're just going to be like, yeah, Chris McCaffrey doesn't have legs. Because at first, it was a little soreness.
Then it was tendonitis in one. Then it was tendonitis in both.
Then it's just like, yeah, he actually hasn't walked in six months. He has no legs.
Yeah, Booger, you make a good point where you see the German doctor after you've already seen three doctors. Correct.
And each one tells you the same thing. And it's not good.
It's like like some of the ladies now they're going to bro what is it uh to out of the country to get the butt lift yeah the brazilian butt lift there's a reason america won't do it yeah okay there's a reason nobody in the states are doing it and you got to go out of the country to get it it's probably usually not a good thing it may make you feel better but in the long run it's probably not a good thing. Yeah.
So I had a question about the Vikings and Sam Darnold. At what point do we say, this is just a different guy? And I think I'm there already, but is there any part of you that is cautious to be like, hey, he's going to eventually go back to not being able to take care of the football, seeing ghosts, all that stuff, or are you like, hey, this is new system, great coaching staff, great weapons.
This is what he always was going to be if he was put in the right spot. I'm going to make an analogy, and it's probably going to be pretty wild.
Okay. Like, if you look at Sam Darnold, he was in almost like he had to go to rehab.
And he had to go through like a 12-step program. And I think Kevin O'Connell took him through that program where he was just trying to say no to all these different things that were stopping him from being a good quarterback.
All right, like he had to get off all the bad quarterback drugs. Now, does that mean he's not going to have a relapse and have a game or two? Probably so, but what do you do? When you relapse, you go back, you see your sponsor, they get you back right, and he's ready to go.
So I think at some point he's going to have a bad game or two, but it doesn't mean that he's going to revert back to the old Sam Donald because I think he's seen the light. Like he knows what it looks like on the other side of rehab, of quarterback rehab.
And I think he knows when he gets a guy like Kevin O'Connell that says, I can put you in a position where you forget all about everything that you used to do, all your bad habits, everything that had people said that you were seeing ghosts on Monday night, all those things. Now, he's human.
He's going to have a bad game or two. But what I've seen from Sam Donald makes me believe that I think it's here to stay as long as that pairing is there.
Now, I think when the rubber is going to meet the road is after this season, however far they go, I think Sam's going to have a great year. Now, if you're Minnesota, what do you do when Sam Donald throws for 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns and he wants a new contract? Because he's going to want, you know, 30 or 40.
He's going to want at least the Baker Mayfield deal, right? Three years, 100 million. And if you're Minnesota, are you going to give that to him with J.J.
McCarthy sitting there? I think that's the conversation later on.

But right now, to answer your question, I am a believer in Sam Darnold right now

because of what I've seen and because of the play caller.

They marry well together.

Yeah, and to further your analogy, it's like Sam Darnold,

he went to hardcore rehab last year with Kyle Shanahan,

and now he's halfway house with Kevin O'Connell.

It's all fixed.

Also, this season.

I feel like the theme is it just further proves how important coaching is and time and place.

And a lot of these guys that we say are bus, it's time and place.

You look how Baker's playing.

You look how Gino's playing, how Justin Fields is playing, how Sam Darnold's playing.

It's like all these guys have the talent.

It's just, can you be in an organization that brings the best out of you and not an organization that stunts your growth? I'll give you another one. Malik Willis.
Malik Willis was 2-0, dude. We thought Malik Willis was a bust.
And all of a sudden he goes 2-0 because Matt LaFleur puts him in a really good position. So to your point, man, coaching matters.
Isn't it amazing when somebody believes in you, man, how much that means?

Like somebody says, you know what?

I think you can do it.

Like that's what I tell you every Saturday.

I think you can do it, big guy.

But you never do it.

But I'm not going to go in on you today.

I just want you to know that I do believe in you.

It's amazing what happens when someone believes in you.

And hopefully somebody will believe in Bryce Young.

Because I think the people in Carolina have given up on Bryce Young. And I hope somebody down the road can believe in him because I was a Bryce Young fan.
But from what I've seen to this point, it's like, man, where's the guy that I saw at Alabama? I haven't seen him in a while. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know. I think there will be a team that takes a chance on him.
A team that says, OK, I saw the tape, too. I know that you're capable of making throws.
I know you're capable

of playing well and we'll take a chance

on you and see what's going on here. But

from what I saw from Bryce, I didn't see

it. I don't think I've seen anything besides

that one game against Green Bay last year

where I thought to myself, okay, Bryce

Young, I think he can play in this league. Have you seen

anything? No, he looks

small. I knew he was small, but

he looks really small. If you look at Kyler Murray kyle murray at least has a little thickness to him like bryce young looks like he's like my son's 13 years old and he's bigger than bryce young like that's what he looks like out there yeah and that's that's a bad feeling when you look at yourself on tape and you see yourself and you're like man like do i really fit like You can tell he's lacking the confidence.
Do I fit? Do I belong? And Dave Canales, as much as we give him the moniker of being a quarterback guru with what he did with Gino and what he did with Baker and Tampa, he's kind of failed Bryce Young so far. Yeah.
So we're talking a lot about quarterbacks. Let's talk about some defenses.
I know you love watching the big dudes up front.

What defenses have surprised you in a good way this season?

In a good way. What defenses? Buffalo.

Other than the game against Baltimore, Buffalo's defense has been lights out.

When they lose both safeties, you lose Milano.

Like, they got a lot of missing pieces.

And other than the Buffalo game, that defense has been really good now.

It's been really, really good.

Kansas City's defense has been lights out for the last couple years. Chicago's defense continues to be really good.
Indianapolis, Indianapolis, their defense, like as much as we give Gus Bradley a lot of stuff because he's so vanilla, that defense has been really good. Defense has been ahead of offense, but I feel like over the next month or so

you're going to start to see a separation

where the good defenses kind

of stay ahead, but the bad ones kind of

float back to the flocks a little bit.

Speaking of the Chiefs,

do you think they're going to trade for a wide receiver?

Or do you think it's like, hey, we can do this

our way and we'll find

a way? Because the Chiefs, I feel like, are in that spot now where gone is Rasheed Rice if he's out for the year. Xavier Worthy is obviously really fast.
But that explosive offense isn't the same offense that they're running now, but they're just winning games. And that's all they have to do.
Like, just be within a touchdown with Patrick Mahomes in the second half and you're okay. They need another playmaker because they got too many question marks.
Like if there was just one question mark, Patrick could make up for it, but there's a question mark at left tackle. There's a question mark at wide receiver.
There's a question mark at running back. You're asking Patrick to make up a lot.
Okay. Not only does he have to evade whoever's playing, you know, a windshield wiper left tackle.
Now he's got to try to allow Travis Kelsey to get open because he's a tick slow. Now you got to deal with a rookie number one receiver and Xavier Worthy.
So there's a lot of question marks. They need to solve one of those question marks.
And so do I think they go get a piece or receiver? Yeah, because that's the easiest one to solve. And there are a lot of guys out there.
Could you imagine this? Imagine the Chiefs with Devontae Adams.ante adams yeah yeah i mean would that be out of the world if they if they offer um if they offer uh the raiders a one what and if you're the raiders would you get rid of him what what about what about the chiefs with tyreek hill could you imagine that well they had him they'd let him't there a rule? I saw, I think Ian Rappaport tweeted this out yesterday. There's a rule that if you trade a player, if you lose a player, you can't get him back on your team for what? Like two seasons? What? Yeah, they were talking about Bryce Huff.
If you trade a guy, or Hassan Reddick, yeah. Yeah, Hassan Reddick, you can't trade a guy back to the original team for like two seasons.
So I don't think that applies to Tyreek Hill because it wasn't a trade. I don't think, right? It was a free agent.
I thought it was a trade. No, I don't think it was a trade.
Was Tyreek a free agent? I think it was a trade. I don't know.
Y'all got computers in front of you. We do have computers.
That's a good point. That's a good point.
We got our research boys in the back working on it right now. Yeah.
I, I'm going to find it. I'm going to find it.
I think it was a business decision by the Chiefs not to. Correct.
Correct. I thought he was a free agent.
No, no, no. They traded him for five draft picks.
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I was right.
Yeah, yeah. So he can't go back to the Chiefs.
That was 2022, so he probably can't. I think it's two seasons.
Yeah, it was two seasons. Two full seasons.
What are these rules? That's a stupid rule. I'd never heard of that rule before.
I think DeAndre Hopkins on the Chiefs would be a great fit. Yeah, because they need somebody that can work.
If you notice what Rasheed Rice was doing, Worthy can still do the deep stuff. Travis Kelsey is kind of the jack of all trades a little bit as far as being a tight end and underneath.
They need somebody that run routes and get open and separate i don't know if d if d hop is the guy that can still like he's still a good receiver but can he separate he's more that 50 50 ball guy like they need a they need somebody like uh i i'll throw a name out there for you and i and i'm not saying this is the guy but imagine somebody like a hunter renfro that can work the middle and get open really quick like they need somebody like that not hunter renfro because i don't think i don't I don't think they need him, but somebody like a Hunter Renfro that can work the middle and get open really quick. Like they need somebody like that.

Not Hunter Renfro, because I don't think they need him, but somebody like that.

Because that's what Rice was starting to do.

Work the middle, get open, the slants, the comebacks, all those little things.

Maybe Adam McConkey.

Adam Thielen.

Maybe Luke McCaffrey, that type of guy.

Somebody like McCaffrey.

Yeah.

Adam Thielen.

Cooper DeGene.

Yeah. No, Cooper, no.
Cooper's a baby. These are, yeah.
Oh, Riley Cooper is what I was thinking. Riley Cooper.
Yeah, like a Wes Welker type. Yeah, and yeah, maybe.
Okay. Yeah.
Someone like the Braxton Berrios kind of guy. I'm thinking like a Wayne Crabette.
Yeah. Is that who you're thinking of? Maybe Ed McCaffrey.
Ed McCaffrey could probably still play. Let's keep going back getting old white receivers.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't see color here.
I know. Me either.
I'm just observing what you're saying. I could play this game all day, Booger.
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And it didn't look good. Maybe it was the weather.
Maybe it was the weather. But what have you seen from Aaron? Do you think that he's still got it? Yeah, Aaron still got it.
I think Aaron is trying to figure out what he has around him. They got a lot of talent, man.
You got Garrett Wilson. You got Brees Hall.
You got Braylon Allen. You got Lazard.
They got weapons. It was very shocking that they only scored nine points.
And that's Aaron's fault. We can blame the weather.
You can say whatever bo nicks had what 10 and you had nine so a rookie in his fourth start outscored you and i know the broncos defense is good but the jets defense is good also but as far as a guy who played defense in the national football league for about a decade if we hold a team to 10 points i expect to win that game 97 of the time and the fact that we lost that game that's on aaron rogers and i think in a private moment aaron rogers will tell you that uh he's got to be better and aaron is kind of like the old guy that's stuck in his own stuck in his own ways and here's what i mean he wants the offense to run the way that he wants to there's there's so much going on in offense right now like if you look at what you guys are doing in washington a lot of motion a lot of zone read a lot of shotgun like shotgun. Everything is movement.
It's a lot of innovative stuff. The Jets aren't

doing that. It's Aaron at the line

of scrimmage dictating. They got to

evolve a little bit, man. Aaron's got to be better.

He can still throw it.

Go back to that Monday night against the 49ers. The arm

is still there, but offensively, he

and his best friend, Nathaniel

Hackett, have got to figure it out.

It does feel bad.

I got some college questions for you, Booger.

Before we get to college, I do have a question for you guys. Yeah.
Okay. If you were to find yourself in a Shannon Sharp situation, how would you handle that? So if that were to happen to me, I would be the happiest person on earth but nobody the problem would be nobody would think

that was real they'd be like oh pft's playing a prank on us yeah like this is you actually would we actually are in a good spot where anything that we fuck up we can just be like haha joke yeah it was satire yeah i was doing a satirization of social media yeah it was a social experiment it did scare me though because the his explanation was that he's never been live on instagram and then he tossed his phone and it went live.

And I think people look back on it and I don't think he had been live before. So now I feel like I've got this ticking time bomb in my pocket that's liable to go live.
But never in a million years would it catch me having sex with a woman who was enjoying it. And she's kind of giving you a lot of accolades during yes

exactly it would it would whatever the case may be it would not come off as good as it did for shannon sharp well just so you know when i heard it i started thinking about people who could pull it off and kind of get away with it and the first person i thought about was you just so you know that's what i brought up bring it up. I appreciate that.
See, when I heard it, I started jerking off. Please tell me you were at home and...
No, I was at work. I was like, hold on, guys.
I gotta go take a piss. I want to know what Skip Bayless' first thought was.
Honestly, my first reaction was like, what is Skip doing? It should have been me. Well, no, because Skip and Ernestine sleep in separate bedrooms, so that would never go on.
Yeah. Oh, wow.
So, Booger, college, first question, does Kirby Smart have an Alabama problem? Because it feels like he does. One and six, all time against them, and the one, you could make the argument, we're not going to do what ifs, but you could make the argument, Jamison Williams doesn't tear his ACL, and that game maybe goes different.
So what is the deal? Georgia has been so good for his whole stretch there, but they seem to not be able to take down Alabama, and you thought maybe it'd change, maybe it was a Nick Saban problem, but Saturday night happens, and they just looked, I know credit to them for the comeback, but they looked not ready for the fight when the ball was kicked off in Tuscaloosa. I'll put it to you this way.
There's an old saying that I learned a long time ago. Never accept a carbon copy of the original.
Because at some point, the carbon copy is going to fall a little bit short. When Kirby built Georgia, he built it what he saw at Alabama.
can't duplicate that now Kirby has won two national championships and it's one hell of a program and they recruit better than anybody else but when they go against Alabama it's the carbon copy going against the original right and I don't think he has a Saban problem because Saban is not there I just think the kids at Alabama step on the field saying your team is built like

us. problem because Saban is not there.
I just think the kids at Alabama step on the field saying, your team is built like us, but there's something about us that you can't replicate. And Kirby hasn't been able to replicate it.
And I think it's mental. I don't think it's physical.
I just think it's a mentality of how Nick Saban built that team, the culture. And Kalen DeBoer came in.
And I think the smartest thing he did was kind of keep Saban around. Saban's got an office in the facility or in the stadium.
So Saban can kind of help DeBoer keep the one thing that I think is the most important thing in college football. It's the culture.
Right. How do you keep 17 to 21-year-olds in this time locked in and not worried about NIL and focused and ready to run through a wall for you?

It's the culture in your building. And it's amazing how he's done that.

And so I think that's the that's the issue for Georgia. Georgia's got talent.
Georgia recruits.

Georgia's got more five stars than anybody like they recruit better than anybody.

But what they can't do is they can't play bully ball with Alabama.

They can't play mental mind tricks with Alabama

because Alabama started this.

Like, we're the one who started this gangster stuff, you know?

Yeah.

Like, there's nothing you can do that we haven't done before.

And so I just think it's something that Kirby's going to have to figure out.

They got to get over the hump.

But as Tom Jackson and Boomer would say,

once it's an accident, two is a problem, three is a trend. Like,'s a trend here.
One in six, that's a trend. And he's got to figure it out.
Yeah, and the culture thing is a great point because you could make the same argument that Ryan Day trying to replicate Urban's culture is part of why they've fallen short with Michigan. Because Urban, that culture, it didn't matter.
You could get kids from Florida, Texas, California. For some reason, Urban was able to say to them, hey, it matters to beat Michigan.
And you play for Ohio State and you would see that in the games. Ryan Day, it feels like that culture has fallen short with Michigan.
And Ryan Day, I think the kids feel his anxiety. Yeah.
They feel that this is the biggest game in his life. Like Ryan Day is, what, 56-8 or 57-8 in his career? And of those eight, he's lost, what, three to Michigan? And they're ready to fire him.
Like if he doesn't beat Michigan this year, there's a strong chance he's gone. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And so Ryan Day doesn't have a coach problem.
He's got a Michigan issue. Whereas I think Kirby is trying to figure out how to kind of replicate and kind of put the finishing pieces on what he built replicating Alabama.
Ohio State is trying to figure out how do we beat that team? How do we beat that team that's given us so many issues and so many problems? And I feel for Ryan Day because Ron Day's a good coach. The Chicago Bears, the Bears, you know this big cat, the Bears wanted to hire Ron Day at one point.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the Bears have their own culture issue, but that's neither here.
We're talking college now. I do have a college question for you.
It's actually a question about your question. So I think you tweeted this out over the weekend when you were watching college ball.
You said, here's a question. Why do college kickers seem to wet the bed more times than not in pressure game winning tying kicks? I have a theory, but would love to hear from you all, especially my football brethren.
What was your theory? My theory is this, is that football players, like we spend two and a half hours practicing in the heat, getting mentally fatigued and developing mental toughness. Kickers don't do that.
Kickers come out, kick for like 20, 30 minutes a day. They sit around, they play marbles and tiddlywinks and they're not mentally tough.
And so when you get in those pressure moments, they haven't been mentally hardened. Okay.
And so they literally wet the bed. Like if you look at the kid for Ole Miss, like it 48-yard field goal.
And he didn't even get close. Yeah.
Like, it wasn't even remotely near the goalpost. And that's not talent.
That's just mental toughness, man. That's like the moment is getting too big.
And when he's getting ready to pull that right leg back, he's like, oh, no. Oh, no.
What if I miss? And then he shanks it. And so my theory is just that.
I think you have to have a way. And what my coach used to do back in college is we would bring the kicker up at the end of practice.
And if he made it, then we didn't have to run. If he missed, we had to run more gases.
And so now there's pressure on the kick, not only pressure for you, but what you does affects everybody else on the team. Because if you miss, we got to run more and we're going to be dog cussing you after we get done running.
So you're the guy who's been over there in the air conditioning for the last two hours while we've been practicing. You better make this kick.
And so I just think kickers are mentally weak, man. And some coaches have got to figure out a way to mentally toughen up kickers.
I love that your theory is that kickers are wimps. Yeah.
I think there's some water to that. Maybe the coaches just say, I'm going to kidnap your family if you miss this kick.
In practice. But then they don't actually do it.
On the video board, they put up the family. It's AI.
They have an AI video of the family. Yeah.
Yeah. Here it is.
Here's the family I'm going to kidnap. Booger, do you have a Heisman vote? No, I do not have a Heisman vote.
So why is Travis Hunter your Heisman?

Well, because I think the Heisman is given to the best player in college football.

Yes.

It's never been the best quarterback.

We've made it the best quarterback.

Yes.

And I think it's still going to be the best quarterback.

But I think if you look through five weeks, he's been the best player in the country.

Yes.

Like he's got, I don't know, what, almost 400 or 500 yards receiving. He's got a couple of picks.
Like he's playing more plays than anybody. What he does is unreal.
Think about it this way. He could be a top five pick at receiver and a top five pick at corner.
Yep. I don't think anybody, I can't remember anybody that's ever done that.
Like Charles Woodson only had 12 catches or so, I think, the year he won the Heisman. Champ Bailey, the last guy I saw do both ways because Champ Bailey was in my era.
Champ didn't have that many catches. This dude's got 30 or 40 catches already.
He may wind up with 90 catches and eight or nine picks. That's unheard of.
Just to be clear, he has 46 catches, 561 yards, and six touchdowns right now on the season. I think he has three picks or something.
It's pretty crazy. That was a do-you-know-ball question, and you passed.
Because he is the Heisman. He should be the Heisman.
It's crazy that people are going to ding him for Colorado maybe not being one of the best teams, but I'm so sick of the Heisman just going to the best quarterback on the best team. That's not how the award should work.
But that's how the award does work because people who really don't know ball need something to quantify. What's the first thing they look at? Stats.
Yeah. As I always tell them, stats are like bikinis.
They show show something but not all things and so i just i just tell the stats people just step up take a step back and just look at ball yeah yeah yeah they they have an opportunity to prove that they know ball if they do the right thing and vote travis hunter for the heisman trophy he's the best college football player in the country i don't think i don't think it's particularly close there's some good quarterbacks but none of them are as good at football as Travis Hunter. He needs to be the Heisman winner.
Yeah. The other guy who might challenge him, and who I've actually been a believer in, who's starting to get to a point where people are not doubting him anymore, Jalen Milrow.
Are you in that camp where you're like, okay, we know that he's struggled at times as a passer, but he has been lights out. And there's something that he – like he does things on the field that you shouldn't be allowed to do.
Like you shouldn't be able to run sideways against an SEC defense and turn the corner on an entire defense, and he does it easily. So are you in like the Jalen Milrose, the real deal camp? Yeah, and I think Kirby Smart put it the best.
He might be the best running back in the country and he can throw the football. Yeah.
Like that's something that makes him special. And in this day and age, guys, and you tell me what you think.
I think the biggest cheat code in football, it's not cover two like Mel Kiper thinks. It's not a blitz.
I think the biggest cheat code in football is a quarterback that can run because it changes everything. It changes the way we play defense.
It changes how you call offense. It changes everything around if you have a quarterback that can run.
And he doesn't have to be like Joe Montana as a passer. He just needs to be average.
Like if he's an average passer, he's phenomenal. If you look at Anthony Richardson, Anthony Richardson was the fourth pick in the draft.
He'd only started 13 games, but because his athleticism was so vast and it was so unbelievable, he's the fourth pick in the draft. And teams will say, I can develop him as a passer.
I think Jalen Milroy is going to be the same way. And don't be surprised.
And I know this is not specifically about the college game, but don't be surprised if he's a first-round picket quarterback. I like that.
And if you would have said that a year ago when he got benched against USF, people would have said you're crazy. Yeah, I was at the Texas game, and he couldn't complete a pass.
It was like, this is crazy. He can't throw a pass 10 yards down the field, and now he just looks incredible.
And he seems like a good dude, too. Really good dude.
Like just a good human being. being i don't know is he a better human being or a football player last year i would have said much better human being than football player this year i don't know i think he might be better football player he's developing you got to give his coaching and he works like the kid works his ass off man like i was i live here in tampa and my buddy owns a facility where they get guys who are quote-unquote potential combine guys um for the following year to come down and Jalen Miro came down with all the Alabama receivers and DBs and all that stuff and so I saw him here in Tampa throwing the football like last spring and just you know not that he was getting ready for the draft but he just wanted to come get some work in and he was just down here working like the dudes he dudes, he's 6'2", 6'3".
He's 220. Like he looks the part.
Like he looks unbelievably built. And his, the mental game of how you play quarterback is starting to marry up with his physical traits.
And Kalen DeMar is showing, not only can I coach Michael Penix Jr., who's a passer, I can build an offense around a guy who's quote-unquote a runner. And I think you got to give Kalen a lot of credit because coaching really matters, as we've learned.
If you can, as a coach, you got to put your guys in position to succeed, and Kalen is doing that. So kudos to him.
Yeah. Okay, so we've got Quinn Ewers coming back for the Longhorns against Oklahoma for the Red River shootout.
We still call it the shootout. Watching Arch Manning the last few weeks, do you think that if he struggles, it might be a quick hook for him? And it sounds crazy to say because we've had viewers playing really well in Texas when he's on the field for the last couple seasons.
But what you see with Arch adds a little bit of a different dimension to the offense sometimes. So do you think that there might be a chance that Ewers would get benched, not because of injury this season, but if he goes out there and doesn't play up to his potential? No, I don't.
And I think there's a level of loyalty that Steve Sarkeesian has, and I think it goes back to when he, when he recruited those guys and I think he he's, he's built trust in them. And that's why those guys like, that's why Arch is not going to transfer because Arch knows that when his time is, is, is up or when his time is, is, is, is there to be the quarterback, he's going to be the quarterback.
Like he doesn't, he doesn't – he knows that Steve is not going to go bring somebody else in,

so he'll patiently wait his turn.

But if you go back and look at what Quinn Ewers did in Ann Arbor against Michigan,

like, they took Michigan apart.

Yeah.

I think they're one of the best teams in the country.

And as long as he's healthy, I think the level of loyalty that Sark has to Quinn

is going to allow him to put Quinn back in and allow Arch to say, okay, my turn is coming. That goes back to culture.
Yeah. Culture.
It's built. I know I'm the next guy in line.
And if, if, if Quinn gets hurt, I'll step in. Or if Quinn has a, I don't know if Quinn gets dinged and I got to go in for a series or two.
Yeah. Sark will do that.
But I don't think he's going to pull in for poor play because if he pulls Quinn for poor play, then Arch has got to say, well, when it's my turn, what makes me think he won't pull me? And so I think there's a level that Sark has to build. He's built enough trust and enough equity with those guys where he's not going to have to do that as far as pulling Quinn for Arch or when Arch's time is there to pull Arch for somebody else.
Who in the SEC, let's say the SEC gets four teams in the college football playoff. Who are those four teams? Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas.
Okay, so Ole Miss, that was a pretty bad loss for Ole Miss at home against a team.

That was the Ole Miss of old where they just beat up on these really bad teams

to start the season, score a million points,

and then they face a bully and their O-line kind of faltered.

And it's just like, is this the same thing?

Are this going to happen again where they play Alabama or they play Georgia

and they just get bullied at the line of scrimmage again?

Because it feels like it was going that way.

Now, I'll give Ole Miss a little – I'm not going to beat them up too bad.

Kentucky's defensive line is really good.

They got three or four pros up there, and they're too deep.

But this was supposed to be the year, right, for Ole Miss, right?

We went out.

We got Walter Nolan.

We got Prince, whatever his name is, from Florida. Like, they got all these good players.
Jackson Dart's back. Lane Kiffin is new and improved.
But to your point, it kind of looked like the same Ole Miss. Yeah.
You know, as long as the game is run and shoot, they can play. But when it becomes a street fight, they couldn't play the game.
And we'll see. They play South Carolina in Columbia, and Willie B is going to be rocking.
South Carolina's got a defensive line that's really good. So the same formula is going to be there.
If South Carolina's defense can kind of play to their level and Jackson Dart and Ole Miss get a little impatient, they could be in a dogfight in Columbia. And then the following week, they got to come to Baton Rouge, which, oh, by the way, if you've never been to Baton Rouge and never been to a night game, October 12th, Saturday night, Tiger Stadium, you might want to put that one on your calendar.
Yeah. We've been many times and it really, there's nothing, nothing compares to it.
It really doesn't. So give me your college football national champion and your Super Bowl winner,

and I'm going to put you under kicker pressure here. If you don't get them right, we're all going to run.

Okay.

College football national championship game.

I'm going to go Texas versus Alabama.

Okay.

Super Bowl, I'm going to go Detroit versus Baltimore. Oh.
And who's your champion? I'm going to the 3-1-3, baby. Detroit.
I think Detroit wins it all this year. I mean, their weapons are insane.
That Monday Night Football game where they just – it's just when everything's firing, it's just so hard to defend them. And Ben Johnson is doing

shit that's just, I mean, that

pass to Jared Goff, that was like the perfect play.

I don't think they have a hole on their offense.

I think that they've got, top to bottom,

the best offensive roster in the NFL.

Yeah. The offensive

line is really good. They got two good

backs. They got two good receivers.

The quarterback is playing out of his mind. Their biggest issue is going to be on defense.
Can they get somebody to help Hutch rush the passer? Is somebody going to tell Terry on Arnold that you can't hold every play? Yeah. And can they stay healthy? Like that's going to be the issue because their secondary, Carlton Davis is pretty good.
Arnold, man, like he's got a, like he had five, like four penalties last night. He's got like seven or eight so far this year.
Like teams will start to identify him and pick on him. He's got to get better.
And they need one more guy to step up to help Hutch rush the passer. Yeah.
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Who's going to win the World Series? World Series. I think the Philadelphia Phillies are the best team.
Yeah! Let's go for Max, our guy. I think Phillies, like if you're a TV network, you want Philly's, Yankees, World Series.
Yeah. I mean, Citizens Bank Park is the best atmosphere in baseball.
The bank. Is it SEC? You can't go into the bank.
They were saying it's like an SEC stadium. It's as close to an SEC football stadium that you can get in baseball.
Like it's unreal. Like Vander Vanderbilt.
Yeah. Vanderbilt.
Maybe. Well, I mean, yeah.
I mean, Vandy's come a long way. And I'll take the Phillies though.
Okay. Phillies, Phillies over Yankees.
I love that. All right.
You want to do hockey and basketball too? Well, we got you hockey. I think the best team in hockey right now, preseason is going on right now.

Nashville is going to be

pretty good.

Let's see.

Toronto, I just don't know

if they got cap issues.

Yeah.

Chicago used to be my team. They kind of

fell off a little bit. Yeah, Bedard though.

Yeah. I'm going Toronto.

Okay. Toronto is the Leafs year.
Yeah. And basketball? Basketball, Denver.
Okay. College? Yolkish.
College basketball, it'll be a three-peat. UConn, baby.
Oh, okay. What about college hockey? College hockey, let's go Boston University.
Okay. What about Kentucky Derby? Kentucky Derby, I haven't gotten to that one just okay all right all right that's where we got that yeah well is is is uh is big brown still running i don't know we'll find a horse for you baffert's back yeah yeah say baffert's horse we just got them all we just went bug just went through them all all right well thank you so much man we always you so much, man.
I'm going to put a parlay on that, Booger. Yeah, we always, yeah.

Phillies, UConn, Denver, Lions, and what was the last one?

Oh, and we're going to say Nashville?

No, Leafs.

Leafs.

All right, five.

Toronto.

Yeah. Toronto.

Imagine this would be the greatest clip of all time, Boog.

Even if you go like three for five. Yeah, you know ball.
Yeah. Yeah, you do know ball.
I like it. All right.
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Okay. Let's finish up with FAQs.
Breaking moves though. Breaking moves.
Devante Adams has said he'd prefer to be traded. Okay.
So that feels like it's going to happen. Memes is going to be pumped.
To the Jets or the Chiefs. Jets or the Chiefs.
There's no way the Raiders would trade him in a division. No, they won't.
That'd be crazy. He's a Jet.
He's going to be a Jet. Okay, FAQs.
Hank, to wrap us us up would you stop talking to each other forever big cat and pft if it meant the commies or the bears became a dynasty like the patriots for 20 years why would we stop talking to each other just would you uh would we still be able to do the podcast we just would be like mike and mike everything to hank if we just can't talk outside the podcast. Maybe the podcast would get better.
Maybe use all our gold on the outside. Shh.
I would maybe answer yes in like 10 years. I would say no because I think we're going to do it, Jaden.
There you go. Wait, what? I would say no.
I would not take that deal. He doesn't have to worry about it.
Because I basically have that dynasty right now. I'm saying when I'm 50 years old, if there's been no progress, I might have to get desperate.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
Hey, Dunk Lockwood. Oh, fuck.
You're going to make me commenter and getting less big and more trim cat. Are we going to get...
I've been lifting four times a week. Are we going to get another tattoo bet this year?

Oh, tattoo bet.

Oh, we did figure out dingers only.

Oh, yeah.

That ended.

Ozuna did not go yard on Monday.

So that means that Max will be pitching.

I will be catching.

Not excited about that.

In fact, I'm dreading that.

Big time, though, downgrade for center fielder from Max to Brandon Walker. That's a huge downgrade.
Are we sure it's going to be Brandon? I think I just said it was. Okay, Brandon in center field.
He's not going to like running. I think Brandon will be in center.
Maybe I'll be in right, Hank in left, Jerry at first. Jerry's got to be on power.
There was no infielders. We had a full infield last year.
I will go four outfield. Yeah, Jerry, I think that's fair.
With Max out, Jerry and Brynn do equal one human. Yeah.
That's fair. Who should be the umpire this year then? Oh, yeah, Jerry could be umpire again.
I'm fine with three outfielders. Can I say something that I'm not trying to say to make you look small? No, I was about to say it's going to be tough.
I'm going to look very small in the catcher's outfit. I'm not going to give Max a big target behind home plate.
So can I say, can I propose an umpire not to make you look small, but it would maybe make you look small? Big T. That'd be very funny.
Yeah. That would be such a funny.
That'd be good luck. Big T would be such a fucking be he has an umpire's demeanor his life is lit like when he walks around the office he's an umpire so hard yeah he walks around thinking he's angel hernandez i like that a lot okay so it's settled i'll talk to big t okay oh wait what was the question we still got to find a team tattoo a place somewhere around Chicago.
I would do a tattoo bet. It would be, yeah, I guess we could.
But it's not the same when it's not a Thursday night game. It was the Thursday night game that made it special.
We both were really bad. It was bad teams.
PFD have a Thursday night game. Oh, tattoo bet, perm bet.
What would you get a tattoo of? A meatball? I don't know. That would be awesome if if you had a meatball maybe if you had a meatball as a teardrop definitely would not do that but it would be cool definitely right above the heart yeah we'll see we'll see i do it i do it for this this year's bears commanders game or this year's commanders eagles game oh yeah but both of those happened.
All right, we'll figure it out. Could you guys give a shout-out to all the AWLs in North Carolina in dealing with the hurricane effects? Yes, it is insane.
The videos, it's so tragic. We have a shirt up.
Caleb Presley, our colleague, he's from Asheville. He's got a mountain strong shirt that you can buy in the Barstool sports store 100% of the proceeds go to the food bank to help people in that area but yeah I have a friend who lives there he's been telling me it's just like it's heartbreaking so we're thinking everyone in Asheville yeah water is very scary yeah when you deal with flash floods if't see them, you don't think about how dangerous they are, but then you see the videos that come out and you're like, holy fuck, these people lost everything.
And the mountain roads, like you can't do anything. Yeah.
So yeah, again, Mountain Strong shirts in the Barstool store, 100% of proceeds go to Manna Food Bank in Western North Carolina. Hopefully we can just do, even though it's a small part, any part helps for the people in Asheville and Western North Carolina.
Hey, guys, what is your Mount Rushmore of athletes or sports personalities that you have got the best slash most content from since you started the show? Big Ben, Coach K, et cetera. Yeah, Big Ben was where mine went initially.
Coach K. Coach K.
Lenny Dykstra, maybe.

J.J. Watt.

J.J.

J.J. Watt's a good one.

Jameis.

Jameis has to be on there.

Phillip Rivers.

Phil Rivers, for sure.

LeBron.

I mean, LeBron has to be on there.

Yeah.

He has to be.

Who else?

That's a good question, though.

Marlins Man. Marlins Man.
Noted athlete. Yeah.
Foul ball guy. Tommy.
Tommy Lasorda? You're Tommy. You're Tommy Hank? Yeah.
Oh, Tom Brady. I thought you were saying Tommy Lasorda.
Patino. Patino.
That's a good question. Who's the most one? Who's the underrated? Oh, KD.d kd's a big one really good question awl

revel that in credible athlete incredible athlete not your content credible athlete

steph chris paul blake griffin chris paul is a good one yeah yeah i'm thinking more like not

people like almost people that have never been on on the show right like chris paul yeah yeah

tiger people we've never interviewed ever tiger not running it like chris paul yeah

Thank you. more like not people like almost people that have never been on the show right like chris paul yeah yeah tiger people we've never interviewed ever tiger not running it like chris paul yeah what tiger for sure blake yeah yeah good one that's a phil mickelson bryson bryson yeah top tier one we should save this for mount rushmore season, because it's just like there's some people that, you know, flashes in the pan.
Yeah, we should just do this. Remember, we should just do this for Mount Rushmore season.
Braun's been forever. Tom Brady's been forever.
This is a good Mount Rushmore. Flacco.
Blake Portals. Yeah.
Okay. Good show, boys.
We will see everyone Friday. We have Joe Flacco on the show.
How the show how about that yeah joe on the show on friday and uh we'll try to do some baseball as well love you guys numbers 40 5 11 why 11 99 pug 98 big cat 21 i don't know I'm just trying to get

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