NFL Week 4 Picks and Preview, TNF Needs More Flags + Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney In Studio

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On today's Pardon My Take, it is NFL Week 4 picks and preview. We have our good friends Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonette in the studio as well for an awesome interview catching up with the boys.
We're going to talk Thursday night football, last game, last baseball game in Oakland today, and we're going to finish off with Fyre Fest of the Week. Before we get to all of that, TD, Tuddy, taking it to the house, in for six, whatever you call a touchdown, one thing's for sure.
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Ball, ball, ball, ball. Hey, football guy.
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The shitty Thursday night football games where everyone gets injured and we have a ton of flags. Yeah, at the very end of the game, it was almost back-to-back plays where Micah Parsons out and then you had Neighbors going out too.
That was bad. Neighbors was breaking ankles out there.
He played an awesome game. He's still very good.
I think he's got a concussion. That's what they say.
I don't know what's wrong with Parsons. But the flags were bad.
The flags made this game unwatchable. And credit to Al Michaels.
He gets a lot of shit for if he doesn't celebrate a touchdown hard enough, but when Al Michaels is at his best now is when he's annoyed with the quality of football. Yes.
And he was so annoyed. He gets into surly old man mode very early on.
In the first half, he was just like, this is awful. Yeah.
This is terrible, Kirk. Get me out of here.
And I agreed with him. It was terrible.
We had an awful taunting flag on CeeDee Lamb for pointing at a defender

as he ran into the end zone.

Then I think he threw the ball kind of in his direction,

like underhand, after he scored.

And the thought occurred to me for the first time when I saw that,

it's actually worse.

It's more emasculating for a defender to have a referee step in

and throw a flag and be like, hey, stop making fun of that guy. I'm going to throw a flag at you.
That's worse than a guy pointing at you as you go into the end zone. I'd agree.
It draws way more attention to it. Yeah.
And then it's like, oh, you need this little referee with this tiny little flag to throw it in the air and blow his whistle. The ref is taunting more than CeeDee Lamb in this situation.
Exactly. Yes.
Let the boys taunt. Yes, I agree.
Always let the boys taunt. But it dawned on me that we go through the week one Thursday night opener.
Football's back. So happy football's back.
Week two, oh, Thursday night, this is fun. And then you get to three or four and you're like, oh yeah, I forgot.
Thursday night football, we're going to watch it. We're going to consume it every Thursday because it's the official start of the weekend.
Sorry, Hank, but it is. It's the start of the weekend in the fall.
But for the most part, it's going to be a shitty product and you just hope a bunch of guys don't get injured, which happened tonight. We also had Micah Parsons giving digs and massage on the field instantly.
I love that. Great teammate.
Diggs went down, and then Micah over there started rubbing his foot. We know that Micah's a foot guy.
That's on the record. And then he moved up to the calf, started giving a nice little massage.
If I were Diggs, would you prefer to wait for that doctor where the cowboy had to get out there to give you the massage? Or are you okay with Micah? I think you want it right away if you're cramping, which I assume that's what was happening. Yeah.
That would be really bad if it was like an Achilles and he was doing that. It's like a real injury and he's like, I got this.
It's a partial tear. Yeah.
And then Micah gets out there with his strong ass hands and just shreds it. I just assumed it was a cramp, which that is a bro move.
Yeah, but you're right. He's like, let me get this cramp out real quick.
You're right. The Thursday Night Football, it reminds me of that old Donald Trump tweet about Coca-Cola.
And he's talking about Diet Coke. And he says, the Coca-Cola company is not happy with me.
That's okay. I'll keep drinking that garbage.
Yeah. Yeah, that's how I feel about Thursday Night Football.
I'm going to watch it. No matter what.
We also had, so we're going to get to our picks and preview in a second.

Last A's game in Oakland, which was awesome.

Fuck John Fisher.

It was cool to see the stadium completely packed.

They won, which I'm happy for,

even though we've lost a lot of money betting on the A's this year.

A lot.

A lot.

I think we're down like 15 units.

I think it's around 16 right now.

And that's bad, but it's even worse knowing that we almost picked the White Sox. Yeah.
Yeah. And how much money we would have made.
It was down to those two teams. We just went door two instead of door one.
And I didn't want to piss off Chicago. I like Chicago.
I know. And then I talked to White Sox Dave.
He's like, I don't know. I think they've got some've got some real competitive players out there and then i'm like okay i guess i won't do it to chicago we would have made so much and white socks fans would have been happy i know they're the jerry reinsdorf's a piece of shit we fucked up but uh yeah it was really cool to see that scene like it was it was a packed stadium their their uniforms are a top baseball uniform um they had a bunch of old legends out barry zito sang the national anthem which was cool uh so again fuck john fisher forever oakland deserved better yeah and we stand with the a's and i also stand with the fan who i think it was last night tried to steal one of the seats from the coliseum.
He stole an actual seat and then ran down the street with it.

And then I think A's security called the cops and had him chase down.

Let him steal the seat.

I guess there's an unaffiliated team maybe playing there next year.

The Oakland Roots.

Because I saw someone stole a seat in the Oakland.

Oh, it's a soccer team.

The Oakland Roots tweeted and were like, hey, just a heads up. We're playing there next year.
If you could keep some of those seats, we'd really appreciate it. Keep some of them.
But let the boys have some fun. Steal a seat.
That's always good. And then you know what I hope they do next year? I hope – you know how they used to have the Raiders play at the Coliseum? Yeah.
I hope that the soccer field still has the baseball field. That would be awesome.
Yeah. That would be sick.
Keep that on there. Yeah.
so we feel for the city of Oakland. And then we also had Golf Hank.
No one's actually mad about Scotty Sheffield yelling at Tom Kim, right? That was awesome. Yeah, that was awesome.
Some people were mad that Tom Kim, I think, the next hole, they hit a birdie putt, and before Scotty Sheffield putted, Tom Kim and his partner just walked off. Oh, that's good.
Dude, these international tournaments should have nothing but bad blood. It should always be close to fight, which would not be a fight because they're golfers.
Who are we winning? Dominating. 5-0.
We are? 5-0. Sweep.
Clean sweep. How'd Max do? Won.
Love it. Yeah.
Everyone won. How did Scotty do? Won.
Who lost? Nope. Internationals.
Oh, it's 5-0. 5-0.
5-0. Yeah, fuck you, world.
We're up 5-0? 5-0. So is it over? Pretty much.
I love that. What a domination.
More than anything, I love it when the United States dominates tournaments that we don't give a fuck about. Yeah.
And the rest of the world cares deeply. What about Cantley and Shoffley? One.
Okay. What about Morikawa and Tagawa? One.
What about Brian Harmon and Max Homa? These are tomorrow's pairings, I think. Shit.
But we're going to win that. Yeah, we're going to win that.
How many wins do we have to get to win? I think it's like 13 and a half if it's like the Ryder Cup. What about Henley and Scheffler? We haven't lost those or tomorrow.
No, that's today. One.
What about Bradley and Clark? One. What about Cantley and Sam Burns? One.
Fuck yeah, we won them all. Just check and make sure.
Max didn't play today, so to correct Hank. Well, he was a member of Team USA.
He won. Oh, but okay.
He really won five.

He won.

Everybody won.

So Max is playing tomorrow.

Yes.

Okay.

And he's going to win.

He better win.

Megasport Max.

First to 15 and a half points wins the President's Cup.

So yeah, we're going to, we could win this whole thing.

No, we can't win it all tomorrow, but we're going to. We'd be up 10-0.

And then Saturday is singles.

Sunday singles.

So we can't win it on Saturday.

We can be at 15.

We really don't know the layout of this tournament.

If it was the summer, I'd be a lot more locked in than I thought it was.

You're always locked in in the summer. Why weren't you locked in on the golf today? I was busy.
That's a trick question. Hank was locked in on golf today.
Played well. No, the golf.
Yeah. All right.
Anything else before we get to pick some preview? I mean, I just want to clarify. Hank played well today, but we still beat him.
Oh, fuck. one pft and his partner yeah say ebo no say pft and my partner no pft one there you go there you go uh by the way quick note uh we're gonna do our picks and preview in a second and then we have biz and wit on the show uh this week they're doing surviving barstool at the office the interview is going to be our first ever black and white interview so if you're watching it is art we wanted to make sure that no one had a chance to be like oh this is a spoiler this is a spoiler so uh enjoy it they will probably never do a black and white interview ever again well i don't know this shit might get us nominated for some cool prestigious award.
That's true. Because it does look really cool.

Yeah.

It's like Mad Men.

It is really cool.

And watch all the way through for the surprise at the end.

Oh, yeah.

Because there was a great surprise.

Special guest.

Also, I forgot to bring this up.

We were talking about Thursday Night Football.

Big Cat, I don't know if you caught this.

I don't know if you were at a TV with sound on in the first half.

Maybe it was the start of the second half.

But Al Michaels told a story about Mike McCarthy that I'd never heard before. Okay.
You know what Mike McCarthy's first job was? Mechanic. He was a tollbooth operator.
Perfect. And I think the face stuck on him.
That's perfect. I think he's just got resting tollbooth face now.
That's perfect. Just sitting there for hours.
Yeah. Just pissed off at the world.
He's the perfect demeanor for a toll booth operator.

No offense to toll booth operators.

Do they?

Yeah, there are.

Yeah, there are.

There's usually one per plaza in case you get stuck in one and the arm doesn't go up.

They come over and they press the button.

Yeah, they probably do.

You think so?

Yeah, I think they do.

I mean, it was back when I was in high school or younger when minimum wage wasn't as high.

But I remember minimum wage was $8 and they were like, toll booth operators make like $18 an hour.

That's pretty good. I think they do.
I mean, it was back when I was in high school or younger when minimum wage wasn't as high, but I remember minimum wage was $8, and they were like, toll booth operators make like $18 an hour.

That's pretty good.

Toll booth willy.

Also, whoa, here we go.

Yeah, $15.85.

It says now between $12.50 and $25.95.

$25 an hour.

Shout out.

I bet you there's some toll booth operators listening to this show.

Yeah.

What's up? And you can skim off the top. We see you.
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Okay, boys, week four. You were just talking about Dan Campbell a second ago.
That reminded me of his postgame thing where he was saying their head coach screwed up. Yeah.
You know how he dissociated. Yeah, yeah.
He split himself up. I actually was thinking the other day, that's going to be good for the Lions, because now head coach Dan Campbell is going to be thinking about postgame Dan Campbell, and he's not going to want to let postgame Dan Campbell down.
Yeah, you can't. So it's almost like he's coaching himself up, and he's an accountability guy.
So he's like, I love Dan Campbell so much as a coach. I can't screw up during the game.
He's coaching like a version of his, it's like his son, but it's him, and it's his best friend, but it's also him. Kind of like an avatar.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, you don't want to. By the way, did you see there was an update to the Dan Campbell having to sell his house? so it was kind of like an avatar yeah yeah yeah you don't want to by the way did you see there was an update uh to the dan campbell having to sell his house so it was it's kind of a fucked up story his daughter's classmate posted his address after they lost the 49ers nfc championship game and said like fuck you for going for it that's messed up messed up how old messed up uh high school i think and then and then like the the real issue was uh that dan campbell and his wife were still in san francisco and people started showing up to their house when his like his daughter was still was home that night after the loss and like honking and stuff so we need to get those you know those uh is it the hell's angels the motorcycle gangs that show up whenever the westboro baptist church is protesting david wells the angels yeah have the have the people with the giant angel wings standing outside dan campbell's house protect that thing i like that i like that but yeah it's fucked up dickhead move that's what happens when you don't have a full picture of the history of the lions when you're a high school student yeah and all you've known for the last couple years is optimism yeah and success you don't want to go back.
Also, what happened when you don't understand analytics? True. Because some of those were analytic play, and also Dan Campbell, he was going off vibes.
Actually, that guy didn't know ball, because he probably didn't watch the Lions all season. Also, Josh Reynolds should have made that catch.
That's also true. Okay, week four.
I still do treat week four as the end of the first quarter even though we have uh 17 games 18 weeks now i don't know why just will never get out of my head i me too but i think it's because i grew up listening to joe gibbs you grew up listening to lovey smith and those were two big guys that were into splitting the the season up first quarter yeah four quarters yeah um so week four i can't believe we're already here

week four i feel like this is the week where after week four we have a big enough sample size to know like what's a fluke and what's not also after week four there's buys oh shit yeah so that's always like fucked up like oh shit we're in bye weeks um so just before uh we get to each game uh this is Hank, you have been doing your hungry dogs for a few years now.

It's been dominating this year. So underdogs of seven-plus points to start the season are 4-0 straight up.
The first time dogs of seven-plus are above 500 straight up through three weeks since 1956. Yeah, so if you look at the first three weeks, the biggest underdog of the week has won.
The Patriots won in week one. They were eight-point underdogs.
The Raiders won against the Ravens week two. They were nine-point underdogs.
And then the Commanders won in week three. They were seven-and-a-half-point underdogs.
It's the first time in 70 years that's happened. Is this just simply that we are overrating the AFC North? That is a possibility.
Because that was Bengals, Ravens, Bengals. That is a possibility.
Or maybe we're just overrating the Bengals. Yeah.
No, that can't be it. They're good.
No. Their defense is good.
No, because the Ravens lost too. So it's just an overrate.
We put too much respect on the AFC North's name. But you know what? I'm fine with that.
That division is football. Yeah, they are.
I respect that division. They're the definition of football.
Yeah, and NFL underdogs, six plus points are now 12-1 against the spread through three weeks. That's crazy.
If you're a betting man, which I think some people on this podcast are, biggest underdog this week, you know who it is? Hank's Patriots again. Ooh.
What is it, 10 and a half? Get right game. Oh, 10 right now.
10. Okay, let's get into some games.
Good slate. Good mix.
Saints and Falcons to start. Excited for this game.
I do think I like the Falcons in this game. I'll give you two reasons why I like the Falcons in this game.
One, I think the Falcons played like that game against the Chiefs. They were very, very close to winning.
And it felt like whatever happened at the end of the Eagles game, maybe the Falcons found a little bit of something. And I think the Saints are banged up and are coming back down to earth.
So they have the center's out and Cesar Ruiz, their right guard is out. And I just like the Falcons.
I like the Falcons. So the Falcons also have, I believe, two linemen that are out this game.
And we did a bad job at the end of the Chiefs-Falcons game. Hand up.
We were recording as the game was ending, which is always tough for us because we're trying to actually talk about the other games while keeping an eye on the Sunday night game. And for all the shit that we talked about, Chiefs derangement syndrome after week one, when Bengals fans were doing the screenshots of the still frame of the pass interference that was actually pass interference.
Yeah. The Falcons had a completely legitimate gripe against the Chiefs at the end of Sunday night football for that pass interference in the end.
Correct. You got fucked on that.
So I just wanted to make sure that we said that out loud. but that's how they get you with the chiefs derangement syndrome yeah the the teams that that complain too much about the they cry wolf about the other calls and then when it really happens sometimes it slides under the radar yep you had every right to complain about that absolutely fan and also complain about your stretch run on fourth down yes also complain about that now part of that is that kirk is definitely limited with his mobility right Of course.
So they know that he's not going to keep it. He's not going to bootleg out.
He's going to stay relatively stationary. But that's usually when Kirk Cousins is at his best.
Yeah. He doesn't have to move too much.
I just like them in this game because I think the Saints are going to struggle with the offensive line issues and the Falcons offensively.

Have you seen?

It's like the tired wired.

Tired is Bijan Robinson making incredible cuts and juke moves.

Wired is Bijan Robinson just blowing up people in the blocking game.

He's such a good blocker.

Dude, I love running back pass protection.

It's awesome.

There's nothing better than seeing a running back just lay out a lineman. Because they're always underdogs by nature in that setting.
The guy who they're going to block is going to be bigger than them every single time. He had a couple.
There was one in the Eagles game where he blew someone up. I think he had one in the Falcons game.
So yeah, Bijan, maybe blocker of the year. I love that.
Should he get a vote? For block of the year? All pro at Lyman? Yeah. Yeah.
They should give a vote or they should give a pro bowl position to just a blocking back. Just for third down.
Yeah. So that's my new Bijan Robinson.
I love watching Bijan Robinson. I've added just watching him block people as well.
So this is also kind of a revenge game for the Falcons. Because if you remember last year, the way that the Saints-Falcons game ended, that was when the Falcons were getting beaten pretty badly.
I'd like to forget every Desmond Ritter game, but go ahead. And Jameis Winston did the handoff at the end.
The victory formation handoff. That was for the Vox.
Which Jameis was being a good teammate and trying to get his boy a touchdown. But the Falcons were pissed off about that.
I don't think that is a revenge game just because that was a Jameis going rogue and he's not on the Saints anymore. I think they can use it.
I think Raheem Morris might dial it up at least one time in film session this week. Look what they think about you.
But I would imagine if you tried to get Kirk Cousins to buy in on the revenge factor, he'd be like, no, Jameis is a God-fearing man just like me. He stands up in front of the team.
I respect him. Hey, guys, let's turn the other cheek.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
He's not a revenge type of guy. Yeah, but maybe the defense is.
Maybe the defense is. Yes, that's true.
I also think just the way that Jameis has been a star and so funny, you can never stay mad at him. Of course not.
You can never stay mad at him. Of course not.
You just can't. Okay, next up, big game, huge game.
Vikings at Packers. Jordan Love might be back.
Yeah. I believe he's going to be back.
I'm intending on him being back. I think he's going to be back.
He practiced. There were rumors that he was doing walkthroughs and shit last week.
He was actually practicing this week. I think he's going to be back.
So as much as I would love one more opportunity to bet against Malik Willis, it's been very financially productive for me. Yeah.
I don't think I'm going to get that this week. Now am i think i'm 100 in on the vikings okay that's funny because i have the exact opposite thought i think i'm in on them i don't think what they're doing is a fluke i think that their defense is really confusing and i think that sam donald i don't know if sam donald's like a great starting quarterback at large in the nfl but in this offense with this head coach, I think he's really, really good.
I don't think that there's anything fluky about it. I think for whatever reason, it fits him.
And I think I'm in on the Vikings this year. So I'm not saying I'm not.
Everything you said, I somewhat agree with. Like it's not fluky in the fact that I think they're a good team.
I just think this is their absolute sell-high spot. Everyone's like the Vikings are for real.
The Vikings are for real. I'm feeling like this is a spot where Sam Darnold's going to lay an egg and everyone's going to get off the scent.
Again, I think they'll still be good. I'm not going to say if Sam Darnold comes out and plays bad, I'm not going to be like, Vikings back to earth, they stink.
I'm just going to say I expected he'll throw in a clunker once in a while. That might happen this week.
And that's actually where the Vikings want to be because they want everyone off the set. It sounds like you're being a little bit anti-Samatic.
You're being anti-Samite. Anti-Samite.
I am pro-Samite. Okay.
I don't know. What I've seen from him is really good.
and also it's like strength for strength in this game so the the Packers have a really good run game and the Vikings I think have the best run defense and they've gone up against some pretty good running teams too well the Packers have also have a good run game because they had to run that's really Quillis so I don't if Jordan loves back I think the Packers are gonna win this game and I might even take it if they're not back. Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe Vikings keep just rolling, but I feel like this is – one of these 3-0 teams is going to have to lose this week. It's a get-right week for the favorites, I think.
You think so? It might be. See, I'm also – Because now everyone's like, oh, the underdogs, underdogs, underdogs.
Right. I've also not had a correct read on the Packers all season.
Yeah, so keep that in the back of your head i like the packers in this game i just again i think the vikings are probably a playoff team but they do better work when everyone doesn't take them fully fully for serious serious so if they win this game like it's a visualization game they win this game they're four no they just beat the packers maybe even throw in the lions losing on monday night football and so it's now 4-0 and everyone else is 2-2 in the nfc north you're like holy shit they got a two-game lead i don't know i just don't see it i also got that wrong they're the second best against the rush in the nfl but still very good yeah i can't see yeah i just think the the packers will obviously be very different if malik willis is uh if j Love is back, they're not going to run the same way.

It would be good for your personal discourse if the Vikings happen to win, and then you

could say, like, go back to Malik Willis for the Packers.

Oh, are you kidding me?

That's going to be all I'm going to talk about.

Yeah.

No, if Jordan Love plays and loses, I'm going to be a real fucking piece of shit online

because it's all I got.

All right.

You know what?

Let's talk about it.

I think it's a Rams Bears. I think the Bears are going to win this game.
Same. If I'm following my model that I just talked about.
I think it's also. But it's gross.
What's your model? It's a get right game. Get right.
Get right. Get right week.
The game after the kitchen sink is always tough. Because you don't have anything left to do anymore.
you have nothing left you know leftovers so uh there also is a stat behind that uh teams coming off of 14 kitchen sink just like kitchen sink is just cleaning stuff no it's a phrase though throw everything no i know but like there's no left it's just you got the garbage disposal this is garbage disposal game you're throwing a bunch of like windex at teams when you throw the kitchen sink at them so wait when you throw the kitchen sink are you saying is it like we're going to we don't have anything left to eat so we're going to take everything that's the dirty stuff that's in the kitchen sink and scrape it off and that's what we're going to have i think it's everything just pull the kitchen sink out of the socket and throw that okay so you have no food left the no the phrase is everything but the kitchen sink yeah yeah so you're just leaving just the kitchen sink you're packing up everything but the kitchen sink okay so you still do have a kitchen sink you have a kitchen sink to piss in yeah you have to you have to be somewhere uh the rams pass defense is really really bad their entire defense is not great they give up the most yards per play so i think that this could hank might be right about this one i feel is this going to be a caleb coming out party i mean he threw for 363 yards last week i think he's gonna i think he's already out you think he's out yeah he's out okay i think this but if he goes if he goes dummy this game i think he's out all right then i think that's the coming out party also i said the bears were going to win this game before h I said the Bears were going to win this game before Hank said the Bears were going to win this game.

That's a fact.

That's true.

But credit to Hank.

He did.

And if the Bears lose this game, I'm going to blame you.

Yeah, that's fine.

Is your boy Keenan Allen going to play this week?

I believe he is.

And I also believe they're finally going to make the right call and have Roshon Johnson start.

So, little teaser, he's probably probably gonna be my TD parlay I

think Roshan is I mean you could see he's run he's run a lot harder than than uh DeAndre Swift

who I don't want to say DeAndre Swift stinks because the offensive line is not great but

DeAndre Swift might fucking stink yes again I'm a Bears guy because what I'm about to say is I know

that the clip there was a viral clip that went out on social media that was like someone breaking Thank you. Yes.
Again, I'm a Bears guy because what I'm about to say is... I know that.

The clip, there was a viral clip that went out on social media

that was like someone breaking down film of DeAndre Swift

in slow motion running into his players and defenders.

Those clips are bullshit.

Agreed.

When it's slow motion and it's like you have no time to think.

It's a split-second decision.

He went right instead of when he should have went left, and you cherry-pick those and put him in slow motion and it's like you have no time to think he it's a split second decision he went right instead of when he should have went left and you cherry pick those and put him in slow motion everything looks bad counterpoint that's kind of your job is running back here's my but like if you but i'm saying you cherry pick the bad ones and compile them together it's going to look worse right like there's a million of those every game yeah even every running back doesn't get it right yeah film the film community online has gotten a little away from itself where there are people i i follow who i trust who will show good and bad but there's also an entire group of film community that will like just highlight one play and be like what is this team doing this guy's ass this guy stinks look at how bad they are I think it's because you can get paid off Twitter now and they just know that they hate. Yeah, they'll just put up those bad clips and it's just like, okay, can you, like, one, we don't know what everyone's, that's the other part, is with the film, I trust some people, but I also think there's a lot of people who think they're film experts and they, you don't know what everyone's assignment is on every single play and they just kind of guess and they try to highlight one bad block or one bad run this guy stinks with running backs to where they have the still shots of where there's a hole sometimes the hole is not even there by the time the running back gets correct just if you find a screenshot and there's open space it's rushing disinformation is what it is correct and so we got to be on to be on high alert for it.
What were you going to say? I was just going to say that DeAndre Swift has been in a lot of Eagles talk. Oh, you want him back? No.
Oh. Like, how much better? The Eagles offensive line is? Yes.
Correct. Correct.
That's a no-brainer. And how much better Shaquan Barkley is.
Than Deandre swift yes i like that because they were like deandre swift had these same like these same running lanes as saquan parkley is getting this year and we're seeing the difference oh that makes me feel so much better because i saw someone uh posted the other day they were like we don't i don't think deandre swift's the best player ever but maybe it's not all deandre swift it was like DeAndre Swift, yards per carry, it was like 5.0, 4.8, 4.7, 5.2, and then this year it's like 1.6. But that makes sense.
He was a system running back. He had a great offensive line.
Seems like a nice guy, by the way. I'm not trying to bash him.
I would count this as a Caleb coming out party because the Bears offense is last right now in DVOA. So if he has a good game.
Nerd stat, cool. If he has a good game.
He had fucking the most yards since Brian Hoare in 2016. So 363 yards.
And if we're going off the trend of him doubling his previous yardage, which has happened every game this year, he will have 626 yards passing this week or more. Love it.
Would be a record. Love it.
He's already out. I don't need nerd stats to know he's already out.
He's been out. He's been out.
He has been out. He has been out.
Yeah, and the Rams are still very injured, but I don't know if they win this game. I guess I should start getting nervous about my pinky.
Yeah. I mean, the Rams are put together with duct tape and bubble gum right now.
Yeah. But their coach is so good.
And their quarterback is so good. If you look at coach versus coach in this game, one team has a pretty big advantage.
I was thinking about this recently about your pinky team. Remember last year or before the year you were hyping up Matt Stafford to win MVP? Ip because you could see i did this year that's what i'm saying yeah no it's stupid yeah you were you had this whole thought process of how like the rams could go on a run matthew stafford's so good yeah this is gonna i could yeah you just went full 180 in two weeks yeah everyone's gonna like uh i'm gonna get all this credit for uh saying that matthew staff predicting matthew stafford's mvp season when i say all this credit like literally no one give me any credit what did it cost my pinky yeah yeah the bears i mean the bears defense is good enough where i think that they'll be able to take advantage of having a bunch of starters out on the rams offense yeah the question is is the defense on the rams going to be as bad because they they're lasting yards allowed 425 yards a game no other team gives up more than 400 yards a game yeah so they're last by a big margin that also is that game against the cardinals where they just got torched coming up right you know the the we're at that weird spot where three games is the sample size so it's i start trusting stats but i you're also i'd say you have one bad game, then you could be the worst in everything.
Yeah. All right.
Steelers or Colts, I have a question. This might sound crazy because I'm not the biggest Anthony Richardson fan, but is Anthony Richardson potentially better than or can he play better than Kirk Cousins' first game after an Achilles injury, rookie or Bo Nix, and a significantly hurt Justin Herbert without Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt? I think he can.
So maybe he can have better success against the Steelers' defense than the first three teams they played. I'm not saying the Steelers' defense isn't good.
They have not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks. The Steelers' defense is really, really good.
It is, but they've also not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks, and could Anthony Richardson maybe play better than those three things I listed and win this game? I think he could, but also the Steelers, they have a formula, and they're going to bleed you out on offense. They're going to run the ball.
They're not going to turn the ball over, and then their defense is going to suffocate you. I feel like the Steelers, they're going to be one of those teams that people are like, how is their record so good this year? It's because I love the fact that they just know who they are, and they don't give a fuck.
Yeah. Yeah.
Big time. Big time.
Also, Justin Fields is playing pretty well. Yes, he is.
And Mike Tomlin has refused to name a starter. I think he's just going to do it.
We're going to ride with Justin until the wheels fall off, and then we'll put Russ in. Why do they cater to Russ like this? He hasn't done anything.
I don't understand. We watched him.
He's not good anymore. I think Russ kind of needs to be catered to yeah they need to bring in they need to basically do bar rescue the steelers if this quarter if this becomes a quarterback controversy in any way or messes with justin field's confidence they should do bar rescue sean payton and he just comes in and he just shits on sean on russ and he's like all right i've done my job i'm out that would be fun also mike tomlin should tell his medical staff to like secretly treat russ wilson incorrectly like give him heat when he needs ice yeah give him ice when he needs heat so he's still got that nagging little injury in his calf i don't think you have to be secret about it you can just tell him this is a new formula to get back on the field yeah listen this is a uh it's actually uh inspired by the blockchain and so it's next level shit so we're doing like crypto healing on you yeah and just wait it's going to work really well and then russ will be like yes okay that sounds like it's preparing me for excellence yes and then just keep justin out there is this is stealers cults one of those weird games i somehow remember maybe it's because of the playoff game in the in roethlisberger tackle uh or no it was peyton manning tackle of of sorry no it's ben roethlisberger tackle of Bob Sanders, I think.
That's right. That's right.
Mike Vanderjack missed the field goal. Yeah.
He got, he got, was it, I don't think it was Bob Sanders because remember it was the story was that the guy got stabbed the night before? Oh yeah, it wasn't Bob Sanders. Yeah.
Yeah, it was somebody else. But I don't know why I always like, I can just remember a lot of Steelers Colts games and they have never once played in Pittsburgh.
Well, I think, was that when Harbaugh was on the Colts and they lost to the Steelers in the AFC championship game maybe but I'm saying in like the last 20 years they've only played in in Indy in my mind yeah I don't again this is not a real stat but in my mind they've only played in Indy it's a sneaky good uniform matchup it is it is it's very good but yeah I feel like they play every year and they play always in indy yep that that might be one of those you know how notre dame will play uh in neutral sites but they're not neutral because they're notre dame they're like oh we'll go play a game in texas yeah that's kind of like the steelers game in indy every year yeah because it's a drive and steelers fans travel anyway yep we have a giveaway too oh yeah oh yeah that's right okay So what do we want to do for the colts i think we go giveaway hold on let's get the uh let's get the who got sacked tackled oh if they have that jersey yeah which is kind of sad but he survived no no i know if they have the jersey because they lost the game okay and that was that was like if he didn't get stabbed, maybe he would have been okay. Let's see.
That was such a crazy play. You just say who did Ben Roethlisberger tackle? No, yeah, who did Ben Roethlisberger tackle? Harper.
Jerome Bettis fumbled. Harper.
Harper. if you have a harper colts jersey let us know and we

will give you uh two free tickets to the colts stealers game in indy this weekend it's nick harper nick harper nick harper do we have a do we have backup plan if nobody has a nick harper uh i was i was bryce harper okay if you have a if you have a colts bryce harper jersey yep and I want to go to the game

and I tell you what

if we don't get any people that have the Nick Harper or Bryce Harper Colts jersey by like, I don't know, you want to say 2 p.m.? Yeah. If there's a Steelers Colts couple.
A good custom or a good custom Ben Roethlisberger jersey. Yeah.
That they want to travel with. Oh, we don't want to give these tickets

to the Steelers fans. Yeah, we don't want to give them a home advantage.

Yeah, I might get my season tickets taken away by Mr. Ursa.

How about we do a couple?

We'll do the couple if there's a

Colts and Steelers fan couple.

But Nick Harper and Bryce Harper's

Colts jerseys take

priority.

How would you even make them?

Would it be a Colts jersey

with the lettering

style of the Phillies?

It'd be Harper 34. Yeah, and also the lettering.
You know that... He's not 34? Not 34.
What is he now? Shit. It's three.
Number three. I thought you were trying to say it.
Okay, continue. I thought you were doing a bit there.
What? No. That like he's in...
Yeah, it was a bit. I only recognized him when he wore number 34 for the Nationals it when he brought us to world series got him ah fuck you max you got got bitch remember that when he left that was a great he got the next talk at the end of this postseason yeah i'm gonna bet on the phillies we will uh okay next up memesy broncos jets now here's a question.
Well, actually not a question. A stat for you.
Nathaniel Hackett in his career is 1-0 in revenge games against the Broncos. Average margin of victory, 10.0.
That's a nice neat 10.0. That's pretty crazy, right? That is crazy.
This is a double revenge game. Yeah, because we got Zach, right? Zach Wilson.
Oh, yeah. And Aaron Rodgers didn't get to avenge his boy.
But he said he didn't care about it. No, he cares.
He said that a lot of people say things they regret. And Aaron Rodgers definitely.
Or not they regret. What was the exact quote? I wrote it down.

That's old news.

We've all said things we'd like to take back.

So kind of regret.

Is this when Zach Wilson makes Aaron Rodgers life hell?

No.

I think Sean Payne should make Zach Wilson a captain for this game.

Agreed.

And Sean Payne's the kind of coach that would do that. I bet you you're right.

And I bet you he somehow gets into the game on some weird play. A gadget? Yeah, like a Philly special, Bronco special.
They just try to force him in. Yeah, it'd be very funny if he got into the game and tried to run a Philly special and just got blown up.
Yeah. I didn't...
Not meme style, but by a defender. I didn't love Bo Nix saying that he is excited to meet Aaron Rodgers.
I guess you can say it, but that is kind of weird still. He said it's kind of surreal, really looking forward to meeting him for the first time.
Yeah, I don't like that. You're about to play him.
Yeah, I don't like that at all. And you're going up against a revenge pot.
Again, do I have to read this stat again? Nathaniel Hack's 1-0 all-time in revenge games against the Broncos. 10.0 average margin of victory.
Memes, how do you feel about Olu Fashanu? I love him. And Aaron Rodgers said he reminds him of DeBricka Shaw Ferguson.
That's a good comparison. That's a phenomenal comparison.
That is a phenomenal... Morgan Moses, he's officially out? Yeah, about two to four weeks.
It was an MCL sprain.

Did he go out leaning on his staff?

That's a good one.

Thank you.

To Brickishaw Ferguson doesn't get enough credit for having the coolest name ever.

Agreed.

He was just an absolute stud.

Yeah.

He needs more credit.

We need to remember how cool to Brickishaw Ferguson's name is.

Because to Brickishaw is an awesome first name.

So much fun to say.

But when you match it up with Ferguson, it's like Vince McMahon meme in the chair just exploding at the end yeah the Ferguson sets it off yeah we have to do a review of that doc do we yeah I'm just interested to watch it because Vince McMahon uh came out and said that it was all fake news before the doc came out which means i really want to watch it now yeah i watched

the first two episodes last night it's pretty fucking crazy yeah he's he's done a lot of crazy fucked up things he's vincent man yeah it's like that governor from north carolina that was like i don't know what's about to come out but it's all gonna be lies yeah i won't yeah i won't spoil it but they started it like the first episode was basically saying they interviewed all these all the A-list WWE people for

a documentary and then after

doing a ton of the interviews all of the allegations and the report and the wall street journal stuff came out so all the interviews with vince were done before that and then it starts with this interview being like all right i'll you know i'm talking about me i'll tell you guys the good stuff but he's like i should tell you the but I can't. Like, I don't want you to know the real me.
Yeah. And I was like, ugh.
Yeah. I mean, The Dark Side of the Ring, if people haven't watched that, it's phenomenal.
Obviously, not every single episode is about Vince. It's about all wrestling.
But, yeah, wrestling is crazy, and there's crazy fucked up stories behind it. Can we get somebody to look up this stat? The teams that stay at the Greenbriar when they're staying on the east coast what is their record after staying at that specific place shampan just loves the greenbriar i think it might be one of those things that like bill parcells taught him yeah like this is the hotel and then he's just grown up like as a head coach always going back to the greenbriar yeah he's got like a points card there he loves that place i think he's got a points card at the greenbriar but that but that's where they chose to stay.
Harbaugh, for some reason, chose to stay in Charlotte. He did not choose to stay at the Greenbrier.
Yes, mistake. Teams this year are 0-1 staying in Charlotte.
Charlotte. Yeah, except for the Panthers, who won a game.
No, but they didn't stay in Charlotte that day. They didn't? No, they were in Las Vegas.
Okay, there you go. Yeah, no team.
No team has won. No.
Teams have won in staying

in Charlotte because the Panthers lost.

Okay. Yeah.
We'll fine

tune that. But I'm saying the Greenbrier specifically,

I want to know what the record is.

If there's that stat available out there,

I want to know if there's any magic in those hills.

I would like to as well. I know

we don't do Football Guy of the Week anymore, but

Alex Singleton wins Football Guy of the Week.

Did you guys see this story? He tore his ACL against the box. He's a linebacker for the Broncos.
Then went on to have, he did it in the first quarter, went on to have 10 tackles after the game, was like, hey, I'm a little sore. And they looked at it like, yeah, dude, you got a torn ACL.
Respect. It's crazy.
Massive respect. I'm a little sore.
It also makes me question everyone that has an ACL injury. Phil Rivers, he played in the championship game.
Yeah, I think we're ACL truthers. I think ACL is, yeah.
Someone told, it's basically like when you get told as a kid, don't go swimming after eating tuna fish or don't do this. Something that scares you.
If you make a funny face and get hit in the back, you'll be stuck in that face. Don't take a shower during a thunderstorm.
You'll get electrocuted. Don't stand too close to the microwave.
It'll give you cancer. Pop rocks and soda.
Those type of things. Maybe that's just all an ACL is.
Don't tear your ACL. You'll be out for nine months.
No, how is that true? You can still play on it. It might be a trick that football coaches give where they tell players you have a torn acl and if you choose to play through it then you know that you're tough yeah yeah maybe maybe an acl isn't that bad um also i just wanted to say patrick shertan deserves a lot of credit for being a fucking stud i know there was a couple pi calls in the steelers game but he has gone up against dk metcalf uh week one mike evans right yeah three receptions 29 yards george pickens two receptions 29 yards mike evans two receptions 17 yards yeah he's fucking awesome very good and he makes everything else work when you have a guy like that who can just eliminate someone uh okay next up so garrett wilson not not his day we can continue the narrative of aaron does aaron rogers hate garrett wilson i love that that happens whenever one receiver isn the narrative of does Aaron Rodgers hate Garrett Wilson?

I love that that happens whenever one receiver isn't playing well with Aaron Rodgers.

It's because he hates him.

Yeah.

He won't talk to him.

And it's also funny because what did you think was going to happen?

He got Alan Lazard on the team.

He's going to throw it to him.

Bad vibes.

He likes him.

Bad vibes from Garrett Wilson.

Eagles at box.

Max. Max.
Would you say Max? Please rank the top five players on the Eagles when fully healthy. Three of them will not be playing in this game.
Oh, you got to ruin it. I wanted you to rank them and then we can figure out where they are.
But yes, three of them will not be playing this game. How would you rank the top five players? Lane Johnson won.
Lane Johnson, AJ Brown. Cooper DeJane.
Reid Blankenship. Jalen Carter, Jalen Hurts, Devontae Smith.
Okay, so three of the top five are not playing in this game. That's a problem.
That's a big problem. Is this a get-right game for Bryce Huff?

Nah, he sucks.

I'm done with him.

I've been done with him.

We told you last week going into the Bucs game

that the Bucs allow people to get to Baker Mayfield

faster than any other quarterback gets gotten to.

Like the time after snap, people are getting to Baker,

and I think they sacked him seven times last week.

This might be the get-right game for Bryce.

No, it'll just be Jalen Carter eating again. Okay.
I hate Bryce Huff. He sucks.
That's sad. That's sad that he turned on him so fast.
Sorry. Do you think you're going to win this game? Honestly, it makes no sense that they're two-point favorites in this game.
Explain that to me. I really can't.

That's the only reason I think that they might,

because that line makes zero sense.

The only thing I can think of is the Bucs just might –

we might have gotten way too ahead of ourselves with the Bucs.

I know the win against the Lions was big,

but the Bucs got dominated in that game on the stat sheet.

They won the game, maybe, and then they lost to a Broncos team. The Eagles are 2-1.
Oh, by the way. They're dominating on the stat sheet the other way.
Like, they dominated the Saints. So maybe the Eagles are good.
I need to rewind. You didn't do Saquon.
I know. I knew you said.
Because you know why? Because you're obsessed with Jalen Carter. I am obsessed with Jalen Carter.
You got blinded by Jalen Carter. I know.
Eagles fans are going to be pissed at me. Wait, so who's out? I think Jalen Carter.
Is he out? Nah. Nah, Devontae.
I'll take Jalen Carter over Devontae. Fuck.
Then no one wants to hear me say the three out of the top six. All right, fine.
I'll take Jalen Carter. Okay.
He's six. Well, Max tried to trade away Jalen Hurts on Wednesday's show.
That's true. I would take that trade, yes.
I know. That makes me so happy.
Yeah. I mean, that's just math.
I've just been going through the list this week. Like, I'm a real sicko.
I get one sniff of victory, and I start to think to myself,

who would I take a trade for?

I'd trade him for Patrick Mahomes.

I don't know if I would.

PFT, I don't know if you would.

Patrick Mahomes has kind of been bad. I think I would trade Jaden Daniels for Patrick Mahomes.

And the other trade that I would consider for the rights to Arch Manning

and every future Manning throughout American history.

Thank you. Daniels for Patrick Mahomes.
And the other trade that I would consider for the rights to Arch Manning and every future Manning throughout American history. Get the bloodline.
So then I get like 100 years of sustained success. I like that a lot.
Besides that, no deal. Get the whole bloodline.
Yeah, I think the Eagles might win because it makes no sense. The line makes no sense.
But they have. I think that they might win.
I think they might win. Their offense, it's Jahan Dotson, Paris Campbell, Johnny Wilson.
That's your receiving room on Sunday. Britton Covey.
Britton Covey IR towards shoulder. Someone look up.
Is Vita Vey still out? That might be a way to just pound the rock. I guess.
But then you're missing your top lineman. Yeah, this is – But it makes no sense.
So I'm going to take – That's exactly – Exactly. It makes no sense on the road.
Why are they two-point favorites with their entire offense out? I love the battle of the stupid coaching styles going at one another. So you've got Todd Bowles who is the most conservative coach in the NFL when it comes to fourth downs and going for it.

And then you've got Nick Sirianni, who is just stupidly reckless sometimes

with going for it.

I would just say stupid.

Stupid, yeah.

But at least his stupidity is consistent.

Consistently inconsistent.

Vita Vey returned to practice yesterday.

It makes no sense.

Because he is stupidly – he does make no rhyme or reason. Yeah.
All right, I like the Eagles. I think we talked our way through it.
I like the Eagles. Specifically because you don't like the Eagles.
No, because Vegas knows something. Yeah, it makes no sense.
It makes no sense. The only sense I can think of is, like I said, if you look at the way the Bucs have won, they got doubled up in yards per play, and yards is not indicative of everything, but there are certain boxes.
A 15-12 game that you won against the Saints, if you looked at the box where you're like, oh, that was a really close game, the Eagles were able to move the ball. The Saints weren't, that's a fact.
Same with the Bucs and the Lions. The Bucs beat the Lions.
If you watch that game, the Lions were able to move the ball. They just couldn't get in the end zone, which is part of the game.
But, yeah, I think we take the Eagles as a team. Hank's been saying, get right for the favorites.
Okay, next up, Bengals and Panthers. This is finally a do-or-die game.
Yeah, I would say so. I would say if the Bengals lose this one, their season's cooked.
Starting 0-4 would be very, very tough, if not impossible, to come back from. Yep.
And if you look at the schedule, which is one of the easiest in the NFL, in theory for the Bengals moving forward, if you lose the game against the Panthers, then you can't count anything as a win. I'd agree.
Did you know that Andy Dalton won the FedEx Aaron Ground Player of the Week? I think Jaden Daniels won a bunch of awards too, but did you know that was the first time in Panthers history a player won the FedEx Aaron Ground Player of the Week? So FedEx wasn't a sponsor when Cam Newton? I think they were.

I think the award's been around for like two decades.

So in his MVP season?

I don't think he ever had a week where he won it.

That's strange.

Yeah.

This is the first time any Panthers quarterback has earned this honor in the 22-year history of the award.

That's very strange.

Yes, no Cam Newton somehow, no Jake DeLome.

That's crazy.

I think Andy Dalton is just still good. I think he's a perfectly fine quarterback, and this is a revenge game too.
It is a revenge game without Adam Thielen, and he got the surprise factor. I think maybe this is the game that Bengals have to win one.
Yeah. They have to win one.
Because their offense is still very good. Yeah.
Do you know someone, I saw this online, someone was tweeting about this, that they did the playoff predictors calculator thing, and there is a world where the Bengals win out 14-3 and miss the playoffs. Yeah.
Yeah, because other teams can win like 15. Yeah.
Someone did it. It has the Steelers as 14-2-1, winning the AFC North.
It has the Chargers as 14-2-1. It has the Chiefs as 13-2-2.
Two ties. It has the Jaguars at the fourth seed being 14-3.
Love that. The Texans at 14-3.
The Dolphins at 14-3. The Bills at 14-3.
Yeah. I mean, that would be chaos if there's a team out there with two tires.
I love how that guy had to just sit there forever, hitting just every single iteration to try to find the formula. Listen, as a team that oftentimes finds himself at about 4-8 after after 12 games i'm very experienced with manipulating the playoff predictor it's it's you can spend a half hour on there and get any result that you want would that be the craziest sports story like ever if they won 14 in a row and still didn't make the playoffs yeah probably i'm rooting for it now so yeah so uh adam theelin out is going to be i think a pretty big deal yes because andy dalton loves him he's still good adam thielen is still an effective wide receiver yes when he has an like an actual quarterback that's throwing the ball to him so yeah i do like i like the bangles in this one my question for for bangles fans out there i think that you agree with me on this why is chase brown not getting the ball more why do they keep why do they keep having zach moss be their number one guy because chase brown is so much more dynamic i agree than zach moss is i agree it doesn't make any sense i was cheering so loud to put zach moss back in the game when i was when i was at the game on monday night because he's he's not bad he's not a bad running back but chase brown is so much better yes i'd agree i agree.
I'd agree. It doesn't make sense.
Maybe this is just an off Bengals year. Because, you know, Zach Taylor has only finished fourth or first in the AFC North.
Yeah, so this might be number four. It's just feast or famine.
His first year, obviously, was before Burrow, so it was 2-14. How sick would it be if Joe Burrow got rid of the frosted tips before this game but he did it by dying his hair red so we have a ginger off yeah that'd be nice just mock them yeah uh okay uh i think this is the last early slate and we have a few late slates jaguars at texans the jaguars are in trouble we have some have some Doug Peterson quotes.
I'll read you the first one. He said, listen, the speeches are done.
The speeches are over. We don't need any more rah-rah stuff.
It's just time to go play football, fix the mistakes, and do everything we can to play our best football this weekend. Isn't that kind of a speech? Yeah.
Isn't that kind of a rah-rah? Yeah, the speeches are over. No more speeches.
It's on you, man. Yeah, no more rah-rah is rah-rah.
Yeah. Like, we got to just play.
Yeah. It might be time for a players-only meeting in Jacksonville.
Yes. Well, everything is on the table, he said.
That's a bad sign. Also, he said that we've had great conversations before and after football games when talking about his relationship with Shad Khan.
There's no way they've had great conversations after these football games. No, I'm thinking through all their losses this year and I don't think a single one would have a positive.
Maybe the week one being like, man, we're real close to that Dolphins. Good first half.
Yeah. Good first half.
There's just no way that he's, there's no way they're having great conversations. So Hank was, he was all over the Bill Belichick to Jacksonville.
Did you get that from Albert Breer by any chance, Hank? No. That's from his brain.
Just you. Well, now Albert Breer's talking about it too.
Albert Breer got it from Hank. Got it from Hank.
Come on. So Albert, please credit your sources.
Please. I'm starting to think that there might be some truth to it.
It would look weird. Don't get me wrong that that might be the one uniform that i think bill belichick would look the weirdest wearing in terms of those colors the the jaguar head on his polo shirt i don't i can't visualize it but then again i think when we talked about the weirdest uniforms tom brady could wear i think the bucks were right up there at the top yeah like i can't picture it um so hank might you might be onto something and i think that's what you want to root for hank cowboys would be the best yeah cowboys but if you're just for the just for the takes it's bigger in dallas yeah outside of the cowboys though like you don't it's gonna be weird for you to see belichick coaching another team just like it was weird for tom brady and like pft said you almost want it to be the most random doesn't feel almost real if he's the jaguars head coach yeah yeah i think anywhere not in the afc east is fine though what about the giants yeah no because that could be open yeah i could see him and and he loves the he loves the maris i could see him he's got a couple rings there I know he's never put on a Giants polo before, but I could see it.

That would hurt a lot.

I could visualize it.

You could?

You should do a Photoshop.

I'm visualizing it.

It feels a little grainy to me.

Yeah.

He looks good.

He looks younger.

He looks skinny.

Yeah.

He looks skinny.

I would hate that.

So I'm rooting for that just because Hank would hate it.

I blindsided you with that one.

Yeah.

Which shouldn't be because he goes there. Yeahed there also here's another Doug Peterson quote the confidence is high again no chance there's no way the confidence is high with the Jaguars right now what's the best team they've ever assembled I do feel that we have to just focus in on us internally and keep things nice and tight so they're doing

the nice and tight you know we got to the guys in this locker room eliminate the mistakes that are happening and try to play your best football didn't the jaguars beat the texans in houston last year i know they beat them one time yeah i feel like that was one of those ones where the jaguars kind of own the texans for a while because the jaguars they were very very good at the beginning of last year. Yes, that's right.

I like the Texans

in this game because part of me wants to try to figure out how can I time the Jaguars correctly, figure this out. I think maybe I can't, and they just stink.
I might try to time the Jaguars on this. Okay, go for it.
I might try to time. Is it seven points? It is seven, I believe, yes.
I might try to time. Good luck.
Good luck, buddy. I might.
This is a bad idea, but I think I'm going to do it. Okay, time them.
I'm going to time them. Time them.
Is this the week? You don't have to do it this week. You could say you're going to time them and wait to time them.
No, this is the week. I'm not going to delay my timing of them.
This is the week. It's a divisional matchup.
And guess what? They pay these guys on the Jaguars to play football too. Facts.
That's facts. These guys are professional football players.
I just looked over at Memes was doing like a meathead nod, like nice squat bro. He's just going like this.
Yeah. Memes knows.
Memes knows, Paul. Listen, no more time for rah-rah speeches.
Time for speeches is over. Jaguars.
Your head coach isn't going to talk to you anymore. Okay? It's on you guys.
Men, you want to be men? Go out there and prove it. Yeah.
Prove to me that you're men, boys, because I'm not going to say anything, boys. Be men.
And we're not going to do rah-rahs. No rah-rahs.
And no speeches. Let's go out there and get them.
Stay tight. It's all the guys in this locker room, but we're not doing speeches.
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I think the Texans are going to win this game.
But we're going to time. You know what? I'll time with you.
Let's time it. I'm not saying the Jaguars are going to win.
No, cover. Cover.
I'm giving a speech to them to cover. Yeah, let's time it.
Let's go out there and cover. There's no time better than today to time the Jaguars.

Because they don't play today, so we couldn't actually lose today.

That's true.

Patriots 49ers.

This is like they're going to check into the game one time.

And that was Patriots 49ers.

If you're watching Red Zone, you're watching the primetime 4 o'clock Fox game or CBS whatever it is, they'll cut to this game maybe once, maybe twice it'll probably be gross get right game for the favorites yeah not a lot of confidence so I have an interesting nugget here that we can talk about, Do you want to hear a nugget? Yeah. All right.
So stop me if you've heard this before, but Kyle Shanahan had a lead and then he refused to run the ball and he passed too much and then lost the game. That happened last week.
The Patriots are not, I wouldn't say that they're an aggressive pass-happy offense. They're not built to blow you out by taking shots downfield.
Would that be fair to say, Hank? Yep. They, for some reason, did that last week, especially at the start.
They threw the ball a fuck ton. I feel like this is a double correction game.
Oh! Where Shanahan, fresh off his oh shit, I did the Super Bowl

thing again, is going to pound the rock

and the Patriots

are also going to pound the rock. It's going to be a rock

off. Which, yeah,

adds up to my

point, being it's going to be like a

13-3 game.

You think it's a 13-3

game?

16-3? Yeah. Who? 49ers.
I think the 49ers might score a little bit more than that. Patriots defense looks slow.
I mean, follow the trend. Biggest underdog.
True. Hank, do it.
For who? The favorites. It could be a get right for the Patriots.
Yeah, you've got conflicting get rights going on. No, I've been steadfast.
Do you think we see Drake May? I think it's a, I hope not. Yeah.
Even in the one drive that he played, he got crushed. Yeah.
When do you want to see Drake May? When we have an offensive line that can block for him. So not until next year.
And maybe the year after. Yeah, next year.
are you saying shut drake may down for the season not shut him down but i i would not get like i i get more scared than excited if he goes in i think that's fair yeah because again what's the best what's the best case scenario if he plays well even if you well if you went out you could guarantee you guarantee yourself a playoff

spot because you already have that one win so by the math that we just went through you could clinch if you won if you won out you control your own destiny yeah you could yeah i guess that i don't i don't see it that way but in theory you're right super bowl goes through foxborough this year I don don't i i don't know if the 49ers are uh not good because they're hurt or maybe this is just the year from hell for them or maybe i don't know so christian mccaffrey it was reported earlier this week he took a little trip to germany to see a doctor to me crazy to me that doesn't crazy that doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of reason for optimism when he's going to europe to see a doctor did you hear ryan whitney say that he heard a rumor that he's might retire really yeah that seems crazy whitney also i mean he's gonna he's on in a minute here but like he stick to hockey buddy you can do the rumor boys for hockey he actually admitted in the interview that's coming up that they just fuck around a lot with rumors. Yeah, so that's a crazy rumor.
It's a crazy rumor. Definitely not true.
You can't say that stuff on a podcast. You can't.
It'd be crazy if it was true. It's crazy if it was true.
It'd be crazy. Where did he hear it from? I don't know.
He said someone from Barstool, but I don't know. I didn't ask him who it was.
I mean, these walls, if they could talk, they'd be like, Chris McCaffrey might retire. Well, so Whitney, he was.
It's so crazy. He was at.
It is right. He was on the golf course earlier this week.
Yeah. Whitney was.
Yeah. Do you think he heard it on the golf course from somebody? Who knows? Who knows? So yeah, McCaffrey is in Germany seeing a doctor for experimental reasons.
I hope he did this this. Yeah.
Well, German doctors running experiments

doesn't always turn out so good.

No.

If he was going to retire,

do you think it's a situation where he goes to Germany

and the German guy tells him he has to retire?

And that's what cues it off?

I think you go to Germany as the last stop.

Right, but you go to Germany and they're like...

We don't got any of that.

Yeah.

Well, the German told me to quit, so I quit.

Imagine if FDR felt that way, Hank. Mm-hmm.
I don't know. It's weird, Hank.
Would be crazy. Again, yeah.
If we see Christopher Caffrey this year, Whitney, it's despicable what you did. And if Christopher Caffrey does, in fact, retire, we should get to find out who the source is and give that person credit.
So what would the reason be for going to Germany? Is he getting a treatment done that's not legal in the United States? I think they do a lot of stem cell stuff, I think. Kobe did it with his knees.
Yeah. So they probably just have, I don't know, you get another opinion.
Okay. You get bored of getting second opinions just down the street.
You're like, oh, let's go to Germany. It might help.
Is it like Turkey for hair plugs? That's what I was thinking. That German doctors can do that American doctors can't.
Germany. Yeah, well, some American doctors are very, very good at doing hair plugs.
That's true. Really good.
Okay, so. It's cheaper, but that wouldn't make sense mccaffrey like like people go to turkey for hair plugs because they don't want to pay the premium that americans cost it's a bunch of like collegiate athletes flying back on german airways and they've all got their knees wrapped up yeah like what but chris mccaffrey doesn't all right i'm finding it out for you right now all right so it's a there's a german doctor in that does a, uh, it's referred to as Regenakin, also known as Orthokin.
According to Web DMD, it is a type of regenerative medicine that uses your own blood to treat your joint pain. This serum is made from your blood.
It's treated in such a way that it produces anti-inflammatory protein called il1 receptor antagonist this protein may change your body's inflammatory response improve any damage to your cartilage so it sounds like it's a procedure that we don't do in the states uh people who have done it are kobe bryant peyton manning tiger woods trace mcgrady and freddy couples that's funny that Boom Boom went and did it. Yeah, Freddie Couples.
Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Yeah. So it probably doesn't happen here.
And I remember when Kobe did it, his knees bounced back for another year or two. I do think that there's something to having a doctor with an accent tell you something that makes it sound more official.
Yes. Like if I hear a foreign, especiallyan accent from a doctor yeah you feel like you're in rocky four i'm like that guy knows

what he's doing yeah uh all right that was our patriots uh 49ers preview whatever happened to

just going to see dr james andrews he doesn't do this a good solid american killies he doesn't do

this kind of stuff uh browns raiders i like the raiders just because of the business decisions

that were talked about yeah but is he overreacting no i saw some of the tape I saw one cornerback that looked like he was completely checked out during one play I saw if you don't check out on an Antonio Pierce team that's right but I just feel like he's he might be doing the the hard-ass first-year head coach thing like he might be over correcting where he's saying he might also bench Minshew. I mean, they lost to a team that hadn't had a lead in the fourth quarter for 20 games.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was pretty embarrassing.
You have to fix things for sure, but I get the feeling like Antonio Pierce is doing, it's the classic hard-nosed first-year head coach thing where he's like, I'm going to fix everything immediately. So you like the Browns? Get the bums out.
No, I don't like the browns but in this game i think i don't like them at all yeah i uh i saw john watson uh in his media day i now he his answer that i'm about to read technically he's right i just fucking he's so he's the worst i don't i feel bad for browns this point. Deshaun Watson was asked about more designed runs in the offense,

and he responded that he is not a running back.

I'm not going in there to ask them for more designed runs.

If I don't have to run, I'm not going to run.

I'm not trying to take any hits.

I'm not a running quarterback in a sense.

I can make things happen, but I'm not trying to run.

I'm not a running back. It's not my specialty.
They signed me to throw the ball, make decisions, be a quarterback, not a runner. Bro, I mean, you're just a jerk.
Just be like, I'm open to everything. We got to win as a team.
I don't blame him for not actively going into the coach's office and being like, hey, let me run the ball more. I don't think any quarterback would necessarily want to do that.
Yeah, the sentiment is not wrong. The way he delivers it, he he's just a dick.
Yeah, he's a dickhead. He's a dickhead.
Yeah, and he's just like, I don't want to run the ball. I'm a passer.
I don't want to run the ball. I'm not going to ask to run the ball more.
Yeah, they paid me to be quarterback. Getting hit hurts.
I feel my body hurts when people, when big men hit me. Just say, we'll do whatever to win the team.
And then he went on to say, if I run and get hurt, it's a lose-lose for Kevin Stefanski because people will blame him for getting me hurt. It's like, actually, it's probably a win-win because people will be like, thank you for getting him hurt, and now we can go to the playoffs with our backup quarterback.
James Winston. Yeah.
But it's not good if he gets hit and he gets hurt and then he has to go see therapists. True.
True. That's bad.
Maybe he's just protecting people. He's protecting people from himself.
True. True.
Either way, yeah. I'm buying in on Antonio Pierce, riling up the team.
I think they're the worst running team in football right now. The Raiders are.
Yeah. Jamil White and Alexander Madison just can't get it going.
And if I know Antonio Pierce, the way to address having the worst running team in football is to run the ball more. Yeah.
We just need to assert ourselves in the run game. Lean on him.
Is what he's going to say. Which some coaches would say, if we're bad at running the football, let's play to our strengths.
Antonio Pierce, I think he takes it as a personal affront to his physicality as a head coach. Right.
He's like, we're the worst. We're not going to be the worst after this week, so we're just going to run the ball down your throat as much as we can.
Also, I do think that the Raiders defensive line is going to eat. Yeah.
They're going to eat because the Browns offensive line has a lot of injuries on it. And I think Wyatt Teller is on IR.
Yeah. So things are getting worse for the Browns offensive line.
Very banged up. Speakinged up miles garrett has an achilles foot and thigh we all do but he his are hurt yeah achilles foot and thigh that's like the the bone is connected to the this bone yeah it's just creeping its way up that's just a lot of injuries right there achilles foot thigh his knees okay don't hog them all yeah his shin injuries.
His hamstring's okay. There are a lot of injuries.
All right. Last two games.
Chiefs at Chargers. Patrick Mahomes has not been very good.
Some would say that he has been good. Okay.
He won a Super Bowl. Yeah.
And they haven't lost. That's true.
But some may say he hasn't been playing very well. Actually, Patrick Mahomes said that.
He said, I haven't played very well this year. He hasn't played up to his own standard for himself.
I have a fun stat for you. In the last eight regular season games, Patrick Mahomes is 11 touchdowns, nine interceptions, is thrown for 300-plus yards just one time.
Hmm. Which made me believe that there's a chance Patrick Mahomes might just have the most fuck-you career of all time to everyone who watches football and win, like, 10 Super Bowls and just play average football every regular season, and he can just clutch up whenever he wants,'s like fuck you guys like I'll just do this every January yeah so additional info about that stretch where they've had you said last eight regular season games yeah they are five and three yeah no I play not bad no I know he his his defense has been playing great he just has not been playing he's not playing MVP Patrickp patrick mahomes he did in the playoffs he's not he he admitted himself yeah also um those long pass interference calls he doesn't get yardage stats for those yeah so just a heads up uh this is going to be interesting because joe alt uh probably not going to play he's out and so is rashaun slater they're both dealing with something as harbaugh would say and the Chargers have a bye next week, and if they start Justin Herbert, that's just the biggest mistake ever.
I don't think Herbert's going to start this week. I don't either.
Because his ankle is not going to get better. I don't either, but I also, when Justin Herbert comes in the locker room and he's like, Coach, I want to go.
Taylor Heineke, though. Taylor Heineke.
Yeah. Do you think Patrick Holmes has been playing well in the regular season? I think he's still, like, statistically, no.
I think he's looked off this year thus far. He's said it himself.
But I think he's still been playing like pretty good quarterback. Yeah, he's not been Patrick Holmes.
He's not doing like the, wow, holy shit, this guy is just stepping on our throats from start to finish. He's making plays when he has to.
He's been clutch.'s been clutch yeah i'm not again taking out playoffs because obviously that was a totally different run yeah um and this is just how he maybe this is just how he does it i just noticed it and if fans get mad at me you get mad at your own quarterback because he said himself i haven't played very well yeah we already said i haven't played it very well and that's not even a stats thing he's been he's been not up to patrick mahomes standard for sure he hasn't looked like the the crazy holy shit patrick mahomes in the regular season but again we we do this every year where we're like patrick mahomes looks off the chief's offense looks yeah of course and then and then next thing you know they just won the super bowl no they're winning the super bowl yeah that's my whole point is it's actually annoying that he can do this and get away with it. So they got Kareem Hunt back.
Okay. So it's not going to be the Carson Steele show.
Okay. Probably splitting time, I would guess, at running back.
Yeah. Kareem Hunt.
When was the last time he was on the Chiefs? Was that 2018? I'll look it up. It was a long time ago, yeah.
I think it was probably like 2018. Yeah, I think that the Chiefs are going to take care of it.
2018, yeah. If Justin Herbert was playing, if they were healthy, I guess if they weren't the Chargers and had healthy players on offense, then I would say this might be a Jim Harbaugh welcome back to the NFL game.
Yeah. But given what they're dealing with, I feel like it's the Chiefs.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'm lockstep with you there.
And if the Chargers have aspirations of going to the playoffs and that kind of stuff, there's 0% chance to play Patrick Holmes. Or sorry, Justin Herbert.
Yeah. Like you have a bye week.
Yeah. Okay, last up.
Ravens-Bills. I think kind of similar.
I believe in the Bills. I think the Bills are very good, but kind of similar to what I was saying about the Vikings.

I think this might be the spot.

The buy hot or sell high and take the Ravens.

Yeah.

Josh Allen has been.

I think he's the MVP right now, right?

I think he absolutely is the MVP through three weeks.

Yeah.

I would say he's gotten off to the best start of anybody.

The Ravens still feel like they're very hungry.

Yeah. Even though they got their win in in so they're not 0-3 i feel like this is still a very good ravens team they lost by like half a foot to the chiefs yeah um the raiders comeback was just crazy at the end of that game yep um but the raven i'm not i'm not selling the ravens at all i uh yeah i agree with you.
John Harbaugh, I love this about him. He feels like a real – I mean, the Harbaugh's are just football coaches, but he went and started coaching the offensive line, I think it was last week before the Cowboys game.
He's been like, you know what, I'm going to show you how to do it. I love that.
Give me this. Give me this tire iron.
I'll change the tire. That kind of move with his own football team.

Yeah, I'll do it.

I'll take care of it.

So the Bills are giving up 118 rushing yards per game so far in 2024,

even though two of their three wins have been blowouts,

so the other team doesn't have to try to run the ball at all.

The Ravens are very good at running the football.

Might be a Tractor Cito game. Yeah, it could be could be because tractor cito looked good last week he did he did this is a fun Sunday night game uh okay that's one more game oh yeah there's one more game big cat oh yeah commanders cardinals yeah an idiot my bad that's okay I don't know why I have it written down uh I had a beat on this game this game's gonna be fun I had a beat on this game a month and a half ago now everyone's gonna be like you just missed that on purpose i literally have it written down that's okay i i put in a bet for some reason like a month and a half ago on the commanders to cover i got a bad number though it was plus three now i think it's three and a half wait the commanders you bet the commanders plus three a month and a half ago yeah and now it's plus three and why did you bet this game specifically a month and a half ago? Because I had an idea about this game.
Okay. I was like, this feels like the Commanders are going to be coming into form offensively.
And the Cardinals, I still think that their defense is suspect. Got it.
So I love the idea. And plus the Cliff Kingsbury factor.
Yes. So I was like, I'm going to bet this game.
Revenge game. I'm going to bet this game.
And you somehow got a worse line in early the early august let me look it up commanders yeah we're awesome i somehow got a worse line that's not a good sign that's a that's crazy yeah well also you forget that the cardinals people didn't know that the cardinals were going to be this feisty but the cardinals just looked bad on sunday yeah they did let's see. How is that possible? I don't know.
I don't know. The commander's office has literally been perfect for two games straight.
They had an all-time performance on Monday Night Football, and you still... No, wait.
I got the commander's money line, which was plus 114. What is it now for commander's money line? Higher than that.
You think it's higher than that? It has to be. They're 3.0.
Plus 145. Yeah, there you go.
So I got a worse number on it. What is it now for Commanders Moneyline? Higher than that.
It has to be. They're 3.00.

So I got a worse number on it.

That's insane. It's bad investing.

How did that happen? I don't know. I think it's because

the Cardinals offense

has looked pretty good and the Commanders defense

has looked very, very bad. It did not look

good on Sunday. No, it didn't.

It looked bad. It looked bad.

Also, short week. Nobody had any idea that it was going to be a short week.
They didn't look bad it looked bad it looked bad on sunday short week nobody had any idea that it was gonna be a short they didn't know the schedule it is insane right that's crazy like the commanders have been playing as far off the charts in the positive direction for the last two weeks as they could possibly be doing right uh and yeah the cardinals coming off a bad performance listen I'm not the I'm not the best gambler in the world. That's so funny.
I mean, they've been perfect, the commanders. I think there should be points galore in this game.
Yeah, it should be a fun game. I'm excited for this game.
Tressway hasn't punted in two weeks. Not to put pressure on you, PFT.
Not to put any pressure on you, but there's a lot of pressure. You are basically holding our happiness in the afternoon in your hands.
Yes. Because Patriots 49ers could get ugly.
Yes. Chiefs Chargers could get ugly.
Browns Raiders is gross. The Commanders and Cardinals have to give us a great game.
I putting the yeah america is the happiness of the nation on my shoulders yeah like i just realized that those those are terrible games yeah otherwise listen if there's one team that's fun to watch in the nfl it's the washington commanders you have to deliver are you up for this challenge i'm up for the challenge all right like i love it again we talked about how i have to build a winning culture for myself on Wednesday's show. I think part of that is taking on the responsibility of the entire nation.
Yeah. Like, I want the pressure.
Pressure's a privilege. You know how you can slide the line when you're betting? I wish I could slide the money line and just take a worse line and get in your hole.
Yeah. Take an awkward line right into my hole.
Just give back money. He's like, no, it's 145.
I'm going to take 114 with my boy. I think, listen, I'm obviously very confident.
Some may say a little too confident in the commander. Some may say I overreact to one game because I've had nothing but absolute horse shit in my life for the last 12 years.
All those people will be losers. They'll be losers and they'll be haters.
I'm i'm very confident in our offense our defense i'm still very realistic about i think that our defense we're not the worst in the nfl anymore but we're definitely in that conversation for the worst enough in the nfl and i think that if dan quinn can do anything in his first year if he can make us to be like the 25th ranked defense or the 22nd ranked defense in the nfl yeah i think that would be a big win because we just don't have the dudes we got rid of two of our pass rushers last year we've got emmanuel forbes coming back which you could some would argue that's a negative that he's coming back yes i would i would argue that uh yeah although he might he might get a little mojo going if he gets to tackle kyler because i think kyler might weigh less than him true so that's good uh but our defense is bad he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna think he's big and strong yeah our man i'm so strong right now our defense is bad and i don't think that that's gonna change too much it might change a little bit that's what i'm hoping for over the course of the season but we're gonna have fun but we're gonna have fun i am concerned about austin eckler being out because he's been awesome and one thing that he's been really good at we've been waiting for you know like uh uh cordero patterson yeah it was really he was really good at returning kickoffs right in the new kickoff system austin eckler has been the best at returning kickoffs yeah he's been for some reason he knows how to return the new dynamic kickoff right which by the way is a great name for it agreed because even if nothing happens it's called the dynamic kickoff right it sounds cool uh austin eckler has been the best in the nfl at that he's been very consistent him being out with a concussion is going to be i think he's going to be felt not only on offense but special teams is gonna be a big factor too i like i i like you guys in this game and i like this game yeah i'm just america waits sorry for injecting the the jayden daniels quarterback conversation into a different game i've just been my my brain this week has been 95 thinking about jayden daniels i've forgotten i'm actually that's low i've forgotten yeah it probably is's too low. I've probably forgotten about so much other stuff this week

just because my brain is just going, Jaden, Jaden, Jaden. I should do that with Embiid when he first started playing.
Don't say that. Yeah.
That's crazy. Yeah, he could say that.
You would love a Joel Embiid. A scumbag player that injures people's knees whenever he gets a chance.
What? if you were to tell me that

Jaden would have the

career He's a dumb bag player that injures people's knees whenever he gets a chance. What? If you were to tell me that Jaden would have the career of Joel Embiid, so he'd win an MVP, he would never get to a conference championship game.
Story's not over. Switch countries to get a gold medal.
Yeah. Front run.
I don't think I'd take it. I'm not going to make that trade.
I think you would. I can do better.
I think you would. You can do better.
I can do better. You can definitely do better.
Like I said, we're going to win a Super Bowl in the next five years. He's considered a top five player in the league even though he's injured every single season.
Yeah. Oh, also, don't forget ducking your main competitor.
That's true. Your rival all the time.
Yeah, I wouldn't want that. I wouldn't want the meniscuses.
That's not true. He doesn't do that.
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Hank, PFT, myself, or

is it... I lost last

week. I also lost.
Oh, Max is back in.

So me, PFT, and Max. Okay.

I'm gonna go Roshan.

Roshan Johnson. Okay.

I think he's gonna score. What are the odds

on that? I don't know. Probably decent-ish.

He's getting an extended look this week.

I like that.

And I love an extended look.

What's your pick?

PFT.

I'm going to go with Brees Hall.

Okay.

Max?

Minus 145.

Not great.

Not great odds.

But Max?

I'm going to bring us back. I think these odds will probably change by the time.
Roshan is plus 190. Okay.
I think these odds will definitely change by the time game time starts. Dallas Goddard being plus 210 makes no sense.
Okay. In what way? He's the only guy.
He's the only guy. He's the only guy.
No, you know what? Let's go. It honestly makes me think that maybe one of Devontae Smith or A.J.
Brown will play. All right.
Let's win this. I like Dallas Goddard.
I like Dallas Goddard. All right.
Let's win this. All right.
And then our picks, we have who's in first? I know I'm tied for last with memes. I'm tied for first.
I think I might be tied for first. Nice.
Nice, boys. All right.
Who goes first? I think it's me? Yes. Big Cat goes first.
Hank, 3-3. PFT, 3-3.
Max, 2-3-1. Me and Big Cat, 2-4.
All right, I'll take the over in the Commanders-Cardinals game. All right.
I want it. I want that game to be fun so bad.
Come in the hole. Hole's wide open.
Yeah. All right, Hank.
I'm i'm like go see i will take the packers minus three okay not going against the vikings uh there will be a hungry dog this week the dogs have been hungry this season but the hungriest dogs are the ones that don't seem obvious how's the hungry cat parlay on monday night terrible that's why dogs i'm a dog man never go away from the dogs cats gross yeah agreed agreed oh i just spilled oh no that's all right i got a bunch of paper that i'm just gonna put look at this all right memes I'm going to take the Cardinals. Minus three and a half.
Oh, wow. Against two.
That's a terrible line. It's against the Washington Commanders.
Memes are such a dick. That was such a dick move, memes.
Gassing up your boy, Brees. I've been trying to be nice to the Jets.
The way you were talking made me like the Cardinals more and more and more. You can suck my dick.
Max texted me during the segment to go hammer time on the Cardinals. And Hank responded, yeah.
All right. All right.
Well, you guys can both suck my dick. You don't want to see me.
I did not text anyone during that. Yeah.
You don't want to see me have success. It's sad.
No, it's just like, you know, the way you're talking.

Oh, a hundred percent.

A hundred percent.

Like I, there's, there is a voice inside me that's telling me PFT, chill the fuck out,

but I'm completely disregarding that.

I'm like, I'm like that dude stocked in rush with a sub that's going to the Titanic and

you're hearing the sub start to creak and you're like, fuck it.

We're going to see this awesome shipwreck and it's going to be sweet and you're going to change the world.

That's what I'm thinking right now.

I'm ready to be heard again.

Yes.

All right, who's up?

I am up.

I'm going to take the Falcons minus two and a half.

Oh, I like that pick.

I like that pick.

All right, PFT, you got two?

Okay.

Yeah, I do.

I love both these picks.

Patriots 49ers under 40.5. Okay.
Smart. And the Washington Commanders, plus three and a half.
I like a money line, and I love them as a dog. So I'm taking the points.
Okay. And I'm getting that fresh new line on them.
Yep. Seriously, I wish I could take your line.
I would. Yeah.
I would. All right, Max.
I am going to take Rams-Bears under 41.5. Okay.
Memes. I'm going to take Chiefs-Chargers under 40.
Okay. Browns-Raders over 37.
Whoa. Browns Raiders over 37.
Points are down. You took the Falcons, right, Max? I'll take the Ravens minus two and a half.
Did someone take them? No. No.
Nope. Okay.
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Arsenal. Let me make something very clear.
No one gives a fuck if you tied or lost a game against fucking Man City. This is America.
If you're getting mad that someone said you lost a game when you really tied and acting like a tie is a win, you're a fucking loser. Some would say it's not a tie, it's a draw, or it's a result.
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So don't act like it's a draw or anything worse than a loss. It's a fucking loss.
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Yeah. Man City, what is that? A place that Tom Brenneman never wants to go to? Exactly.
My sleeper, Biz and Wiz, coming up next on Pot of My Take. Great interview.
Yes. Good plug, Jamalio.
Thanks. Jamalio.
Hey, what's up, you dickheads? This is Mayor Adams from New York City. I'm starting Mudang.
Mudang is starting. It's a pygmy hippopotamus we talked about.
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I'm sitting rats. I'm sitting rats.
They're running the city, and I think think one wore a wire and now i'm in prison because of it so fuck rats rats are out and then my sleeper is zach wilson revenge game i believe in zach wilson coming back uh denver is the new york city of colorado i've always said this and zach wilson he will be captain i agree uh what's up fuckers My name is Matthew Sluka. Hey, Sluka.
Matthew Sluka, I'm starting myself because I'm not starting anymore. Oh, no.
I'm leaving you in LV. The Holy Cross transfer.
Yeah. It'd be a real shame if you ended up in Harrisonburg.
Yeah, I'm sitting NIL because everyone lies to you, and that's why I'm not starting anymore. Nobody really knows what the rules are.

No one knows.

Vegas is a fucking corrupt place where money doesn't work out.

Yeah.

It's like, this is our thing.

This is La Cosa Nostra.

You don't tell, you keep your mouth shut if they don't pay you.

And my sleeper is the new quarterback for UNLV, Hajj.

He looks good, but I only saw one clip of it from Blutman.

He tweeted it out.

He said he's the real deal and now I'm in.

Okay.

Hajj. Hajj.
Hajj. Hajj.
Going to the desert to pay respects to the Haage. Haage.
Yes, exactly. All right.
That was good. Fantasy Fuckboys.
That story is New Day. It's NIL.
Yeah. So he was allegedly told by an assistant that he was going to get $100,000.
Yep. And then he got there and he got, what, $3,000 a week? Yeah.
Is that it? And so now he now he's like hey you told me you were going to pay me and you're not paying me so I'm out It's like the Young Dolph case What's that? It's like the Young Dolph case Yeah I agree That was a really good point Hey Young Dolph So me and Big Cat know but memes is over there like oh what's going on so maybe you can tell memes The men who were arrested for the murder, young Dolph. Remind, so me and Big Cat know, but memes is over there like, oh, what's going on? So maybe you can tell memes.
The men who were arrested for the murder of young Dolph were told they were going to get a hundred K. They murdered him, got paid $300 and then $500.
So they're arresting the guys that only paid the $300 for not paying? No, now the guys that got arrested are ratting. And they're like, hey, you should arrest these guys because they actually didn't pay me as much as they said they were going to pay me.

Yeah, very sad, fucked up, but similar.

Okay.

Okay.

Young Dolph.

Yeah, I understand from his perspective if he got lied to

and he's not going to go play in the NFL

and he has one chance to get paid to play football,

he's got to take advantage of it in red shirt.

Our friend Trill Weathers had a good take on it and basically said that NIL is the modern-day drug deal gone bad. Yep.
If things don't happen according to plan, then what do you do? Who are you going to complain to about it? Yep. He's using the only leverage that he has, which is I have to quit after three weeks and then I can play another season.
Yeah. And his offense coordinator and head coach from Holy cross at jmu oh do you know maybe maybe reunite him next year interesting okay uh all right let's get to our interview with biz and wit before we get to biz and whiz brought to you by our good friends over at chevy there's a reason we've never done a mount rushmore pickup trucks that's because for part part of my take, there's only one pickup truck.
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And now, here is Ryan Whitney and Paul Bisonette. Okay, we now welcome on our two very, very good friends.
Probably our best podcast duo friends. Yeah, I would say so.
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's.
You'd be my second favorite. The Kelsey's? Call her daddy.
Yeah, call her daddy. You guys would be my second favorite.
Second? Who's number one? I think Will and Taylor. They've gotten to you.
They broed you up. They just jacked us.
They swagger jacked us. They smoked them up.
You probably do a podcast together and then all hit the showers. All right.
Nice episode, boys. Boys will be boys.
I knew this would get you guys going. Rub me down.
All right. So it's Paul Bissonnette.
It's Ryan Whitney here with us. I want it on the record.
This is not our NHL preview. That's in January.
January. This is not our NHL preview.
Once football ends. We do not want to.
I don't even know if we should talk hockey. Should we do our NHL recap? We could do our NHL recap.
We could do an NFL preview with you guys. Oh, sick.
I know a little bit about the NFL. Since he's going to be unreal.
What do you know about the NFL? They're a very good team. I know that Cincinnati Bengals are in trouble right now

because what percentage of teams with that start the season even 0-2

don't make it?

I think one of the last 41 I saw make the playoffs.

And it was them.

It was Cincy.

Ooh, good karma.

Good karma.

Now they're 0-3, though.

Now they're 0-3.

It's a good omen.

Good adjective I can't think of right now. It should be bad karma because they've done it before? I think it's a good omen.
Omen. Yeah.
Omen. They've got the culture to do it in Cincinnati.
Yeah, you're a vocab guy. They know how to do it.
Relax, Eminem. I do have one little hockey question.
It's actually Joe Burrow. He's got the frosted tips now.
Yeah, he does. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Little hockey question, not really NHL preview because, again, we're not going to do it right now.
Who? Can you guys explain the beef right now? What's the beef? You guys are beefing with a GM. Oh, I'll let Whit handle that.
I just see a series of quote tweets where it's like, I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
I back that guy. That's not a – I never retweeted anything about that.
Quote tweets, I said. I didn't quote tweet it either.

Maybe it was a chick.

Biz might have said that was Squanto's dad being me.

Okay.

Basically, what happened was Jeremy Swayman is this awesome goalie

that the Boston Bruins have.

And they had Linus Allmark as well.

He won the Vezina two years ago.

Swayman was kind of the backup, but they split time in the regular season.

Allmark took over in the playoffs.

They lost in seven games to the Florida Panthers.

So then going into this past year, they ended up kind of splitting it,

but Swayman took over as more of the number one.

And then going into the playoffs, Swayman was unreal.

They beat Toronto in seven, and then they lost to Florida in six.

Florida goes on to win the Stanley Cup.

Without Swayman, Boston probably

loses to Toronto. He was dominant.

Oh, that's your team, Biz.

That's Biz's team. They can't win.

Like the big deal select. Just wanted to make sure

we say that.

So, after this,

Allmark now has one year

left on his deal. Swayman is a

restricted free agent. They tried to trade Allmark at the deadline because they realized Swayman was their guy.
He denied a trade that they had lined up to the LA Kings. Okay.
So because he had the no trade clause where I think he had 10 teams picked, he could decide LA is one of them. I don't want to go there.
Why wouldn't he want to go to LA? I don't get it. Don't understand.
Well, it will make less sense when you find out that he went to Ottawa. Oh, okay.
Okay. So he is European, so maybe that difference in time zone and he's got kids and the face time.
Time zone, no trade. I like that.
That makes sense. The time zone difference to Europe, yeah.
Because there's no other reason where L.A., if he went there, they could be a cup contender. And it's also LA, pretty nice place to live.

And LA needs a goalie.

They can't get a goalie.

So, all right, well, Bruins like, we got to trade him.

We got to trade him.

They end up realizing, or they knew beforehand, that his no trade list, he could change the

teams on it on a certain day.

Say it's July 1st.

I don't remember the exact day.

So they have this trade lined up with Ottawa.

They're panicked. We think we got to get this done because if tomorrow comes, he may put Ottawa on the list.
Right. So they rush trade him to Ottawa.
They don't get much of a return. They got this goalie, Korpisalo, who's struggled for a while now.
He's got upside. Okay.
He has been very good, but he had a real bad last two years. And Boston, they think their team defense, they think they could put any above-aaltender in net and it's like system QB yeah that's kind of what Boston's thinking like all Mark was doing it so was Swayman they were basically doing at the same time Swayman has also never played more than 55 games and I think he has 135 games in his career not durability they were essentially the last two years sharing the net but leaned towards more Swayman in the back half of the season because he was playing better.
And in playoffs, his numbers speak for themselves. He was, I think, statistically the best goalie, right, Whit? Yeah, enough where now Four Nations Tournament, Canada, Russia, Canada, Sweden, Finland, U.S.
will be facing off this February in best-on-best. People are like, I think Swayman might be USA's goalie.
He's turned into a star. Some people say he hasn't done it long enough, whatever.
Backstory a little bit. The summer prior, the Bruins took Swayman to arbitration.
Arbitration is where Biz makes the joke that all they do is rip on you. They say you got a small cog, a bad breath your wife says you're horrible that's exactly how arbitration works they go in and they just bury you well apparently they were so bad and so brutal to sway him and he was pissed off he was disgusted he it was left a bad taste in his sounds like he might have a small cock who knows what they said so who's it that rips on you is it the gm i don't know if it's the actual gm or their lawyer I don't know who actually is doing the ripping the actual talking because if it's like not a hockey guy just like a lawyer that's doing it that would piss me off too yeah yeah you just know where it's coming from yeah right so it's Don Sweeney the GM so now they decide to trade Allmark they don't have a contract with Swayman yet he's still restricted but they have decided to trade All mark before this contract with Swayman maybe figuring that they could just get him on the cheap and that he might agree to whatever fall in line but Swayman's got the bad taste in his mouth from arbitration and then he did an interview where he talked about he understands that he does he wants to set the goalie market he doesn't want to fuck over other goalies in the NHL and take this low ball offer.
So the stalemate has come to the point now. I get news from somebody that Swayman got a recent, his last offer from the team, after the team really didn't talk to him much during the summer, which is kind of standard in maybe July and June.
So that leads us to today. I get word that they've given him an offer, four years times 6.2.
Apparently his offer was eight years times nine, which is definitely overreaching. 9.25, which was the McAvoy contract.
That was their comparable. Got it.
I like how you guys are tag teaming this. Yeah, exactly.
I love it. I love it.
Hop in whenever you want. You hop in whenever you want so i find out that the offer is four years times 6.2 crazy low ball and that they that they haven't talked in like three weeks it's august camps in 10 days so i said it on the podcast i was talking about what i'd heard and we just kind of thought nothing of it biz was like oh shit because i hadn't told him't told him prior.
I was getting excited. Like I was like, oh, we got this.
He's saying this on the pod. Like fans are going to be like, oh, this is the most we've heard about this all summer.
Drama. So say I said this early September, if not late August, Don Sweeney, the GM of the Bruins, does a press conference the day before camp opens.
That's pretty standard procedure for all the GMs. And in the middle of the press conference, he's being asked kind of over and over, what's up with Swayman? Camp starts tomorrow.
You don't have your star goalie. You could tell he's frustrated and annoyed.
I'm not going to address any of the rumors. Actually, I'll address one.
That spitting up on yourself podcast. You called it spitting up on yourself? Called it the spitting up on yourself podcast.
We called it Spitting Up On Yourself? Called it the Spitting Up On Yourself podcast. We got him.
Yeah, boom. I'm like, oh, he's calling us names.
He's talking about us. This is amazing.
He's a big fish. He's like, Biz.
Everyone loves Biz. My son loves Biz.
I know he's an entertainer. He's talking about that.
I didn't return Jeremy Swayman's calls for three weeks. That's bullshit.

So we're like, this is phenomenal.

We were at Chicklets Cup when it broke, spitting up on yourself podcast.

The guy has no clue.

And also, I had the contract offer, right?

He didn't argue that.

So whether it was two weeks, three weeks, or ten days,

there's been enough silence in August with your star goalie that it's seriously alarming to most bruins right yeah and i would think that the bruins they're generally i think biz when you talk about the best regimes in hockey or would you consider them to be one of the best include this biz sorry quickly they have since don swiney took over as gm i think 10 years ago the most points in. Yeah, I would say a very successful regime.
They probably would have won maybe two more cups if they would have executed their drafts flawlessly or even like... Got to bounce here.
They went to game seven. Yeah, like 80% to 85% strike rate.
They had three first-rounders one year, and I think they missed with every one, didn't they? One of them was DeBrusque. DeBrusque.
So DeBrusque was solid, but then there was a couple that were right around those other picks where you're like, oh, buddy, that's the guy. I know it's hard to predict in the draft, so not full criticism to him, but overall replenishing, getting good free agents at the right price.
They've really moved on from the right people at the right time and he deserves a lot of credit. He's a big fan of yours too.
I agree with Witt where I don't think that they really thought this through, especially after having kind of pissed him off in last year's arbitration. There was a reason.
They didn't have enough money to pay him last year, this big contract. They didn't have it.
This year now I think they have have 8.6 million now left in cap space where what i think view is a slap in the face offer was the four years at 6.2 they should have offered him like give him security but maybe start off at like seven per right i think there's not a chicken dick's chance in hell he doesn't at least get eight times a chicken dick chicken here's another here's another kind of smaller in hell yeah another uh aspect of this is that his agent represent represented if not still represents william nylander who years back held out till like december 1st with the maple leafs in the same exact situation and he got what he wanted and he got what he wanted so i know you guys have a football fans and other sports fans. So moving forward, it's a gamble because they have that Corpus Allo who's struggled the last couple years.
I heard he had a lot of upside. Lots of upside.
So all of a sudden you get him in front of this structured team with good defense and good special teams. Anybody can be a good goalie for the Bruins.
And he has a hot start. What do you mean by that, PFT? It's kind of like a system.
Kind of like Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan. Got it.
You get a running back or you get a quarterback in there and then there's just plug and play. They're just plug and play.
Let him go. We're making good points.
You are. I was listening to your football analogy.
Yeah, because the way their defense is set up, you don't need a superstar don't need a freak but if you go back to playoffs he was probably their best player overall yeah he was their star so they've been so close like they've done a good job arbitration we're gonna wow except for two out of three first round picks we're gonna go to arbitration we're gonna rip you apart uh and then all of a sudden you become the starter you lead us into playoffs and that system did let him down a bit based on the amount of shots they were giving up and he stood on his head against florida right so it's like oh fuck oh he proved it so then offer him he's your guy and if he wasn't your guy why the fuck did you trade the vesna winner two years ago before he had it because you wanted to get corpus allo and like a draft pick and maybe some prospect like come on here so manage. Manage your assets better.
He fumbled the deal, and he called him out on it, and he said it was a slap-in-the-face offer. The only discrepancy was Witt said like basically like he didn't return Swayman's camp's callback where, worst case, there was radio silence for three weeks.
Unacceptable. And then boom, boom, boom.
So this happens. It is awesome for the pod, right right like whenever a GM calls you out yeah it's like it's an original six franchise with an enormous question mark as camp begins over their star goalie and the guy's talking about us like you think he's rattled yeah yeah so I mean obviously like you don't want to you don't ever want to be on the side of like saying something on the pod it turns out it's not true with the size that our show is.
But what do I have to get out of making that up? Right. So what happens if they don't come to an agreement? So here's the kicker.
So I think December 1st, maybe a week or two discrepancy, if he is not signed by that time, they forfeit the season. He can't play at all.
So let's say Corposalo, all of a sudden, he's 10-4 with a 9-10, 9-15 save percentage and a goals against average a little above two. It's kind of like, holy fuck, Swayman's going to start sweating.
Because they're going to see, see everybody? We could put any guy in here. The last fucking four goalies were successful playing in front of this team right so swayman might end up in a position where he is rooting against in a way he's right oh yeah the bruins to to win but he's ruined he's rooting for them to win six five six five right now on the flip side probably more likely corpus allos trash at the beginning and they're losing all the and the fan base is already loud about get him signed, then it's like you could lose your job.
Right. So I need you to tell me what side to be on, and I will be very vocal.
Well, we're the player's side. Yeah, always.
And we're the player's side. And also, it's not just the players because I told Biz, if Swayman was like, I want 9.5, and I'm not budging, I'd be like, all right, well, you're ridiculous.
Some plans 35 games in league? No. Yeah.
I think that, I think if Boston said here's eight years at 7.75. I was just going to say that number.
Wow. 7.75.
That to me is like, shake it now. You got your length.
If Swayman's saying, no, I ain't taking less than 8.75, then I'm kind of in a situation where maybe I would be Don Sweeney and saying, saying well wait it out because that's not the offer we're ever going to give you and and december 1st tick tick tick and we'll see who has the leverage by then and it's basically what do you call it when you line up to the back and you walk out and then you shoot it's a duel yeah it is a duel i love that so you guys are like you get sources now huh he does uh yeah no not not not a ton but like i feel like this happened a few times for you guys are like, you get sources now, huh? He does. All the time.
No, not a ton. I feel like this happened a few times for you guys in the last year.
There were two big ones. But you've broken stories that the rest of the NHL media is just not even on.
Sometimes it happens by accident. Yeah, and some of the times guys get, like there's a lot of, we're not insiders by any means, but insiders will get information and the source giving it to them be like you can't say anything though right so they know but they got a weight on it or something like that i don't if whoever's telling me something's like yeah i don't care like just make sure you don't say my name and it's something that is like worthy to talk about i'll talk about it especially if it's like to try to help a player because this guy in my mind deserves eight times eight right right that's just our opinion yeah that's good for you guys i'm on your side i also i mean it's it's cool that you guys have set it up where players can trust you and that's the goal right exactly and you guys can like because i just love it whenever you guys stick it to traditional media it's just so so much fun to watch.
And what's funny is I've had three texts that showed him some things that I was asked not to share since then that are like, oh my God, people don't really like Don Sweeney that much. We're going to get back to Biz and Wiz in a second.
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I don't know about that.

Do you guys get offended when people are like,

oh, your podcast doesn't know shit?

No.

Do you get offended when people are like,

you guys don't really know hockey?

No, because some people might not listen all the time,

so when we're tweeting out all these hashtag rumor boys,

they might not know we're fucking around. We say stuff like you guys that just can take it gets we don't know shit yeah but sometimes we don't either yeah but we can laugh at ourselves yeah i don't really give a fuck why you guys are really good but yeah and and we we make like i would say some ridiculous claims where we're joking around a lot so people like these idiots these clowns, these clowns.
It's like, well, yeah, we're trying to make people laugh. But when you get in the depths of actually talking hockey, we both know what we're talking about.
People disagree. But to say they have no clue what they're talking about when they're talking about the game, if you want to say that, that's fine.
But we both know that. Right.
We know the game. You know the game, yeah.
A lot of people know way more about it than I do, but a lot of people listening don't yeah it's also be a wild rumor to just pull out your ass yes like the numbers are so what do we gain out of that right nothing um i got another hockey question not the nhl preview um can conor mcdavid win the big one good question no doubt in my mind there has to be a little doubt he's never won the big one I know I just I just don't have yeah obviously I guess that's a good point by you I'm very confident that this is the year this is the year yeah and that I know I've said that previously but they've lost to the last three Stanley Cup champs they have a better team this year than they did last year where they got to Game 7 of the Cup Final. They have Leon Dreisaitl signed up to a long-term extension.
McDavid will be next. Their top six are the best top six forwards in the league.
They need help on the right side of the defense where they'll be able to because of the cap space they have, and they're in a great spot yeah winning a cup is is so difficult but i i don't see him not getting getting one and this year i think is the year rumor you said life or death four years like a four year span your head i would say they yeah i would say they would win one cup that would be my guess life or death okay rumor boys four years i heard that mcdavid might not sign a long-term deal if they can't win the big one, and he wants to go play somewhere else. So many people have said that and continue to say that.
The big change in that topic is that him and Dreisaitl are best friends, and Leon was up for an extension this year. He has one year left on his deal, but he can be re-signed July 1st with one year left in the contract.
So everyone's like, oh, is Leon coming back? If he leaves, Conor's definitely leaving. He signed an eight-year deal at $14 million a year, highest paid player in the league.
Okay. Biggest contract in history? I don't know if it was bigger than Ovechkin's, right around there.
Okay. So now the whole discussion is, in my opinion, and what Oilers fans are saying is they're so close, Leon's not re-signing if he doesn't know from Conor that he'll re-sign as well.
All right, so question about that, though. If he signed the biggest contract, Conor McDavid, I assume, is going to sign a bigger contract.
Per year, I meant. So 14 per, I bet you Conor's worth 16.
Well, he's worth about 30. What happens to the Oilers cap, though? Are they fucked? I think the cap is going to go up a significant amount each year to where that's why I said it might take year three or four because if they don't win it next year, all of a sudden you're going to have that 14 on the books.
Luckily, you get one more. We got bugs in the office.
Luckily, you'd have one more year of Conor at a fair number, but it'll get really difficult that following third year, I would say.

Got it.

If you got one guy making $16 and $14 and $30 million your cap

and two players, oh, God forbid one of them goes down during a run.

That's just like – that's catastrophic.

I heard McDavid wanted to maybe go to L.A., play for the Kings.

Oh, where did you hear that?

Win some Stanley Cups there.

Then maybe finish his career out in New York.

Where did you hear that?

The turtle they have.

I just made it up right now.

Oh, Wayne?

I don't know. I heard McDavid wanted to maybe go to L.A., play for the Kings.
Oh, where'd you hear that? Win some Stanley Cups there. Then maybe finish his career out in New York.
Where'd you hear that? That turtle they have. I just made it up right now.
Oh, Wayne? I made it up right now, rumor boy. The Wayne Road.
There you go. So is there a possibility that he told Dreisaitl, like, hey, let them think that if they re-sign you, they are also going to keep me.
Get as much money as you can because I'm your best friend. But he would have got as much money as he wanted anywhere.
Anywhere. So if Leon played this year he probably would have, yeah, if not 14 it would have been even more from another team.
So then I feel like Oilers fans should be feeling somewhat safe. Once Leon re-signed there was a giant sign of relief.
Not just for him but the fact that it looks like Conor will be back. Let's say Conor all of a sudden had a change of heart.
Leon has the power to probably just go to the organization if he doesn't want to be in Edmonton anymore and basically say, I'm not coming here. Find a way to move me and get what you can back in return.
I love how you say organization. So Canadian.
I love it. What? How you say organization.
Organization. I love it.
Every time you say it that way, I love it. I don't even know.
Organization. Organization.
Yeah, I love it. We more say organization.
I love how you say it. I'm being serious.
I love when you say it. It kind of gets.
It sounds so hockey official. Yeah, it's just something about it.
It's just more official when it's like the organization. Say regime.
Regime. Yeah, that's good too.
It's almost French the way you say it. Regime.
Piz, are you about to, when does your crazy schedule start? Not next week, the week after. And then you're in Atlanta? I go to, yeah, I fly there, I think on Tuesday the 8th.
So that'll be the opening day of NHL. And then Wednesday the 9th, we start our broadcast.
And actually from there, I'll be going to Boston. We're going to do some stuff in boston with pink whitney i think we're gonna get another sandbagger and then that following tuesday we have to can we do a sandbag i would love to with you two we try to do a one with you guys but you guys are tough to track down boys i if i'm a busy what's your handicap uh a lot my i'm not very slow you have to maybe do a scramble where i play with you and then you play with Witt or vice versa.
I think if you did it honestly, I'd probably be like a 23. I think I'd be like a 45.
Oh, no. Me and you will play PFT and biz in a scramble.
Perfect. And then Hank will just play in front of us.
And Hank will play 36 holes the day before and after. He's got to scout it out.
He's got to make sure. He's got a location scout.
So McDavid can win the big one. Can the not-a-big-deal selects ever win the big one? Oh, tell everyone about it.
This is our ball hockey team. We got the best.
Well, Keith Yandel's a guest of yours. There's some drama there.
I want to hear more about the format. I want to hear about ball hockey because it looks insane.
So it's very competitive, and the arena's very small, the ones that they build build at chicklets cup because we we collabed with this guy brad jones from hockey fest so it just so happens the ball hockey rinks they have are small and it's three on three so they're just the games get so physical and these guys take it so seriously and then of course because we put a team in um a few professional teams started popping up and now i, we get eight teams in the A division for ball hockey.

I want to expand to 16 teams.

But, yeah, we've done it five times.

This is our first ever one in Canada we just did.

We've never won our own ball hockey tournament.

And we bring in ringers.

Are you in the A league?

Yeah, they haven't even got to the finals. Are you guys both playing?

Put it this way. No, he didn't even play this year.
I played professional hockey 12 years, played in the NHL for five. I can't keep up with these guys from a physical and running and just the amount of wear and tear over the course of playing three round robin games and then two more semis and then finals.
I feel like I got in a car accident the next day. Yeah, there's real hits.
Oh, at one point point in this tournament a guy got run over in the corner and as he's down and people are like penalty another guy on that same team just was standing out like near the the the back of the rink and just butt-ended the guy next to him which is just sticking the end of this you're sticking out of the top end and just got him like in the in the kidney yeah so it's vicious it's full-on physical, full-on checking, cross-checking, spearing, and the amount of running back and forth, it's intense, very intense. I got buddies.
Well, that leads to Yans. I got buddies who are like, oh, I'd put in a team.
I'm like, this isn't street hockey. This is like game seven of the cup final.
But Yans is so sick and tired of hearing what the big deal selects and them not winning that he's like i'm done with you guys i'm putting a team wait so is he on the big deal no he's never played he's seen the social clips and he's just like enough of you selects the big deal they can't get out of the fucking semi-final so yans you're listening to this right now if you need assistant coaches pft and i are in for your team so he's gonna assemble a team next year. We're in'm wearing a suit yeah we're in so that's why i want to take down we we want to win your ball hockey tournament before you do that's what we're gonna do with yans oh yeah no we're assistant coaches of his team if he'll accept us okay so that's why i want to i want to expand to 16 we're trying to get it done at the calgary stampede which would be unbelievable oh that's one where you put, you dress like a cowboy and get drunk for 10 days? Yes.
That one. That's not the only thing he's doing.
We would basically go, we'll put them in our division, and it's lose or go home. So if they advance farther than us, then I'll never put the big deal selects.
My team is done. We can fold the team.
Never to be spoken I mean, me and me, Kat runs such a good system. It doesn't matter who's in goal for us.
We'll just, yeah. Are you saying it's like Brock Purdy? Yeah, it's kind of like that.
Like Brock Purdy. Because our defense? Yeah, we're kind of taking that Brock Purdy thing to hockey, which has never been done before.
Okay. So you guys think if it's at the Calgary Stampede, you guys will be able to make it or just send players? Max is right.
End of June. Fuck you, Max.
End of June? Okay. Here's the deal.
End of June could possibly work. No, here's the deal.
It would be Joe's classic thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Max is right. I'm going to step back a little.
I'm going to take a quick step back. You're going to be owner and funder.
We're going to be owners and funders. So you have to cover the cost.
So you can pay these guys. You have to pay the ringers to fly in, and maybe they're going to ask for money.
I don't know. How much? You guys are all in with flights and hotels for $10,000 each.
That's kind of worth it. If Hank doesn't dunk, we're in.
We'll just take that money and use it. We can reinvest it.
And then the team to be named will be... Well, Yann's involved, too.
He fucking made $70 million. Oh, Yann's.
Yeah, Yann's. He made $70 million.
yeah yeah yeah listen yans we will contribute to the team we just want our name on the cup when we win the whole thing and the big deal selects are crying and and so there's a holding there's a villain called uh nose face killer and he already dm he didn't show up this year he bailed last minute like the rat he. And he already DMed me saying it's time for you to join the dark side in the sense of bringing him into the big deal selects.
Not a chance, but I think Yanz is going to pick up this noise. He was randomly Yanz's stick boy at Cushing Academy when he was playing high school hockey.
The kid's horrible looking. Wait, but is he bad at hockey? No, he's unreal at ball hockey.
Oh, he's in. He's in.
I'm going to say right now, what's his name? Nose Face Killer. All right, he gets $1,000 out of my pocket to play.
First tournament. And that has nothing to do with the money we're going to put up otherwise.
$1,000 if he's on the team. I'll match.
All right, $2,000 if he's on the team. First time we saw him in Detroit, first tournament we did, Nose Face in the casino.
Oh, yeah, God. He was like barking at us.
I'm going to come here and win your ball yeah that's a man that's how a man plays hockey we're like Worenski from the Columbus Blue Jackets has a team with his buddies who all played hockey like you guys are gonna get dusted and he came out and he fucking dummied them in the round robin game and then Worenski's team beefed up and brought in some fighter guy and then they smoked him in the final no no nose face scored an overtime yes scored an overtime. Yes! He scored the overtime.
And then a villain was born. He's on our team.
He's got the clutch gene. That's the kind of guy that we want.
So I want to not only have your team folded, I want you to sign over intellectual property of the Big Deal Selects to myself and Big Cat. So we take over ownership of your team, and then we'll choose whether or not we want to play him again.
Okay, and into the worst team ever No we're going to take the big deal selects We're going to move them to Utah That's what we're going to fucking do You're a fucking asshole You're a fucking asshole The Utah selects We get complete ownership of the big deal selects Okay so when you guys announce your team I want the same thing the same thing in return. I want all ownership rights.
Fine. Of a brand new team that we don't care about? I think Yann's owns the team.
I don't give a fuck. Sure.
You're going to have to remind me when this happens. Okay.
Okay. You got a lot going on.
We're all the way in though. This is like nine months away.
I didn't know that Yann's, when he listens, he listens, he's a listener. When he hears this, hit us up.
You're getting a call He let us know. I'm interested to hear his team name.
Whatever the number. Yeah.
Yeah, listen, we're hands-off owners. We're just the money guys.
Also, Yans is the money guy, too. Yeah, Yans is also the money guy.
And if MJ wants to contribute, I know they golf together. He can contribute as well.
And you guys might be like, you guys are terrible owners. We've won a Premier lacrosse league championship.
So we are at least one time champion. You've won something.
We have. Did you get rings? Yeah, we did.
We lost them. They're around here somewhere.
Swear to God, we lost them. They're definitely in the office somewhere.
And then Max got thrown through it on the floor. The problem is we put all the rings together and we're like, all right, like remember the here and then we lost where they all were oh no then max got involved in the next year they finished second place yep how about that a loser just a fact loser guy i was i would actually also like to have yeah max uh is free to be the uh mascot assistant coach for the big deal selects we want him on your team He's got to slip that hair back.
We have too many coaches. No, he could be the water boy.
Sure. He's never won a thing.
Stick boy. I've won.
He could be stick boy. He's won.
That's true. I was listening to the most recent episode of Spitting Chicklets.
I'm a fan. There was a story that you guys kind of danced around that I thought maybe you'd like to share with us.
Because I didn't know this, but apparently, Biz, your sister is married to a guy named Paul. Oh, my God.
Oh, no. Yeah.
Let's just preface this with I ran into Biz's sister at the ball hockey tournament. And she's so nice, so friendly, talkative, and she always brings up the story like can you not talk about the pauls and i was like yeah no problem i won't and then she's like and by the way you've never met here's my husband paul she married oh yeah so biz was the one that first told this on on chicklets yeah and then uh i went over to my parents house for brunch one day and and she was you know with Paul, the husband, and brunch was ready.
Hey, can you go upstairs and get in that? And I knocked, and it was like, yeah. And I opened the door assuming like, yeah, like can just come in, an international sign for come in.
Yeah. And I walk in, and Paul was just plowing myself.
Right before French toast and eggs and bacon. Oh, no.
Just going to the woodshed on Natalie. Just giving her the Reebok earrings.
Good old Paul. Paul sounds like a great guy.
I left brunch. You didn't go to brunch? I grabbed a quick strip of bacon and I was out of there.
I'd seen enough. And then he just started DMing every girl with the same name as his sister yeah you gotta find your you gotta find your sister just you gotta find her name somewhere and then just trick her and just walking in i i met a girl natalie once that i like but i just i couldn't get over the hump i was like let's stop this before it gets serious and now paul her ex paul is with that natalie so it all works what What? What's even crazier is I went on a few dates this summer because one of my buddies introduced me to a girl, and I took a liking to her, but she had the same name as my father, which is Camille.
Oh, that's... C-A-M-I-L-L-E.
So I was like, I told you, right? Yeah. So I was like, Jesus, it'd be a little weird if I bring home Camille to meet Camille and Paul's there with Natalie and Paul comes up and then just this orgy starts like it's just too much I don't think I could you guys gotta dress up together you know what's even crazier she dated another Paul when she was in high school she's got a type what so she's in love with you dude your sister's in love with you she Dude, your sister's in love with you.

She just never wants this to be talked about.

Your sister is in love with you.

You said you couldn't date a girl named her name,

but she has no problem whatsoever.

She does not have that block.

Well, he's trying to stop this.

It's like the incest couple.

At one point, there's one kid.

It's like, we got to end this.

Holy shit.

Your sister loves you a lot. More than Big time loves She's just finding Paul's Paul's left and right You guys are very close It's a deal breaker She's swiping right on everyone who's not or left No no like when you put in What you want in the dating app She she's right.
Only Paul. Only Paul's dot com.
Paul's only. She's going to kill me.
When she said. She's going to kill me.
When she said. He might divorce her now.
What are you going to do with that? She'll find another Paul. What are you talking about? There's plenty of Paul's in the sea.
Go down the local construction site. Anyone named Paul.
Hey, Paul. Have you ever introduced her to Gaz? No.
Okay.

Stay away.

Stay away.

No, she doesn't like bald Pauls.

Oh, okay.

Well, he's not bald.

He just wears a hat all the time.

You don't know that.

True.

Very true.

Gaz is ripped now.

Oh, my God.

He's on TRT for sure. When does this come out?

Friday.

Okay, yeah.

I'm going to be getting a text Saturday morning.

Okay.

No one's going to hear this. No.
No one listens to the show. Nobody listens to the show.
No one listens to the show. All right, final thoughts.
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Since this isn't the hockey preview, give us your World Series winner. This is going to be fun.
Want to know something crazy? know something crazy oh i do that's not that was way like overly hyped it's not the socks right the socks are brutal aren't they do you remember when i came on the show and you guys relentlessly tortured me for saying mcdavid was better at his sport than anyone else in the world was it their sport yeah but he doesn't i've now switched it to otani and i'm like obsessed with watching this guy it might be if you don't watch football it might be travis hunter oh yeah travis travis hunter really dude there's a college player was that good he plays wide receiver and cornerback he played 144 snaps the other night for who for colorado And he to Deion's first school that was, I believe, like, all-black school. Yeah, Jacksonville CU.
Number one recruit in the nation. Had never committed to an HBCU.
CU. He went there to follow Deion, and then Deion went to Colorado, and he followed him there.
And he still has to play one more year of college. No, he...
I think he'd come out this year. This is his second year of Colorado Colorado, so he'll be not the first pick? He might not be the first pick because they don't, wide receivers, I don't know what he's going to play because you can make the case he's wide receiver one and cornerback one.
Yeah, he's the best cornerback by far in college football. And he's definitely, he's probably top three or four wide receivers.
Wow. I guess it's similar to Otani that never again people think like somebody would come in and be an elite pitcher and bat and be unreal he's done that nobody's done consistently offense and defense in the nfl like maybe he'll be the guy that does it it's it's yeah i think the most remarkable part about it i would assume that what 75 percent of people listening assume that he was like that the gambling

stuff was in fact him

what Travis Onner's never done a thing wrong

I think yeah I don't think we know the full

story yet but

we were saying it's probably

fair to assume that

like he might have known what was going on

I've actually been on the side of I've

thought he was innocent and the only

reason I thought this was because I

think people underrated the fact

Thank you. like he might have known what was going on i've actually been on the side of i've thought he was innocent and the only reason i thought this was because i i think people underrated the fact that he was in a he's in a foreign country doesn't speak the language and his only lifeline to the outside world was this interpreter and so i think the interpreter like that's a prime advantage of a guy to take advantage of him like if he was if he was a native english speaker i like and he had a best friend i'd be in this is bullshit like he knew what was going on i just think that that interpreter was able to keep a lot of stuff and i'm not even good at checking my finances and if you have that much money like is he ever looked i don't even know that he was involved he's easily the goat because the fact that he could do what he's doing now with that on his conscience is mind-numbing.
Think about that. If he was doing that and all that was breaking and you're going into this season, and still with probably being under a microscope of people trying to dig that up and you do what he's doing now, the GOAT.
They would also tell you how good he was at baseball if the MLB commissioner was actually like, yeah, we know it was you, but we're not going to punish you at all. That's what I was going to say.
Even if this guy was caught in a casino stealing people's chips, MLB sweep this under the rug. Oh, for sure.
The biggest signing ever. The biggest global superstar they've ever had.
But I was listening to a great hockey podcast we both listened to. Elliott Friedman has a show, 32 Thoughts.
He's the number one insider in the game. So it's way different than ours because, you know.
It's legit. Yeah, it's legit.
You guys are insiders. So he was talking about Otani and what he accomplished this year.
And him and his co-host were talking about what it would be in the NHL to do that, the 50 and 50. They said it's 100 goals, 100 assists.
Holy shit. Which has obviously never been done.
It would be like 100 goals and 100 saves. No, I think it would be.
Yeah, well, no, he's not pitching this year. I think it would be 40.
If you did, well, I guess it would be 40 wins would probably be what a goalie's good at. 40 wins, 100 goals.
He is not pitching this year, which might change it because he would have played less games if he was pitching. But this is the most incredible...
Wait, stay. We're about to finish.

We're almost done. We're about to finish.

Just say goodbye.

Bye, guys. Love you.

I just watch these Dodgers games

now. He had a...

I think it was a walk-off against the Red Sox

earlier in the...

It's unbelievable. And then he's that

big and that fast.

It's insane watching this guy. that was a wild move by biz that's a that's a biz move i've never seen that happen before it's a biz move paul pissing that i just did my last question we'll be mid interview on zoom and he just gets up and disappears did you even ask the question i asked the last question then he just he knew that it was about to end he He thought it was not a great question, so he just got up.
What was the question? Yeah. What was the question? I don't know, but now we have a disaster brewing.
Go ahead. Come on.
What's up, Stu? I got to eat. I got to eat.
Join the couch real quick. I got to eat.
Sit down on the couch, Stu. Jaden Daniels was so good.
Yes. He's awesome, isn't he? There wasn't even a word to describe how actual.
All right, Whit. Talk in the mic.
Talk in the mic. All right, Whit.
Thank you. We love you, Whit.
We're doing an interview. Oh, okay.
Am I disrupting? You're doing the rollback question. I am.
No, we're going to give him- I was just saying we're doing an interview, but yeah. Am I interrupting? No, no, no.
Of course not. Biz already got up to piss.
You're good. You didn't text me back.
Sorry, I was busy, Stu. I was busy.
I was recording a bunch of stuff all day today. Totally.
What? I knew that Stu was up to something today because I got like five texts from him telling me how many joints he had. And I was busy.
I could not smoke. Oh, you brought the bag.
I could not smoke all day today. So that's why.
Stu's very high right now. Yeah, very high.
Give some to Hank. Okay.
Some to you. It's legal.
It's 100% legal. So I bought it legally.
It's legal. Okay.
Some to Hank. Some to you.
A couple to Megan. I'm not giving.
I don't need any. Okay.
I would love some. Stu asked the other day to take my kids to the zoo.

And the aquarium.

Yeah, and I was like, Stu, they go to school.

He was just like, what? You know something?

Do you want a couple of joints?

They go to school.

Although, Stu.

All right, you guys.

All right.

All right.

Thank you, Stu Feiner.

Yeah.

See you, Stu.

That was great.

Anything significant you want to touch on? No, no. That was it.
We loved having you on. All right.
Thank you, Stu Feiner. Yeah.
See you, Stu. That was great.
Anything significant you want to touch on?

No, no, that was it.

We loved having you on.

All right, thank you, Stu.

Thanks, Stu.

That was Stu Feiner.

Oh, thank you, Stu.

He's handing him a bunch of weed.

All right, and he's giving me a kiss.

Don't spill the thing.

All right.

Hey, I thought we were taking that.

I love you forever.

I love you forever.

All right, that's the interview.

Scooby's out as he wishes.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show, boys.

This is Firefest of the Week.

Hank.

Spiders. Back? No! No! the show boys fire fest of the week hank spiders back no no it's a war oh no and i'm losing oh no wait are they but it's about to be that's the problem oh they're trying to get inside yes they can feel the winter the the the winds changing and there's my issue is that I can clear them off of my balcony, but there's windows on the side.
I probably, I've already said this last time we talked about this, but they, I can't get to all of them. So there's ones that are alive that I think when I take out all their friends, they come in and try and get revenge.
Oh, I got a spider bite earlier this week. You did? You probably swallowed a couple.
Definitely. Yeah.
Have you thought about getting one of those long vacuum cleaners on a stick? Like the long tube one so you can reach around the corner. What's the thing? Imagine reaching around that corner.
Yeah. What's the stat? Like everyone swallows at least eight spiders in the room? Yeah, that used to be in our school agendas or whatever.
Yeah. You know what I'm talking about?

It was in your school agenda that you swallow eight spiders a year?

Remember they'd give you an agenda where you're supposed

to keep your schedule and shit?

Yeah. Oh, and it had little trivia facts?

It had little fun facts every month.

That's not true. I don't remember this,

but I'm going to take your word for it. I promise you,

and I promise you, you guys are old, but I promise you

there's thousands, if not

hundreds of thousands of A-D-B-O's who know exactly

what I'm talking about. was 12 fun facts whatever in each one per month and that was always one but this is not true you follow you swallow 13 spiders a year it's not true not a year yes there's no chance it's true also it's in the agenda dude i'm pretty sure that this is all right what does it say? The reality, however, is quite different.
We swallow no spiders at all. Yeah.
You used to think you spider how many spiders a year? No, it was eight. The belief that we swallow an average of eight spiders in our sleep every year has become so ingrained in popular culture that many people now have to do this.
I also just always assumed when they said an average, like a human swells, an average

of eight spiders a year, it was just like one dude in Australia eating thousands of

spiders.

That actually could bring it up.

Yeah.

But I don't think that spiders are so dumb that they would crawl into your mouth.

No, they're smart as fuck.

Yeah.

So they're not going to crawl into your mouth.

I think that's what I'm saying.

I get concerned about revenge.

Yeah, they're coming for you.

That's a problem. It is a problem.
You should just move. Depends.
We'll see how this winter goes. Winter's coming.
Winter's coming. All right, PFT? I mean, I don't really have a Fire Fest this week.
It's more of a FIRE Fest because I've had a very good week. Oh, nice.
I've had an excellent week this week. And so I guess my Fire Fest is I just think about Jden all the time nice just all the time i was thinking about him earlier tonight i was watching the game i was like man football is so unwatchable watchable when jayden's not playing yeah um it's definitely not going to come back to bite me no like i'm not setting myself for any sort of disappointment down the line by saying this we have i've had a pretty good week i guess the exception would be um i had to get some stitches out and this was oh where this was last friday i had to get some stitches out in austin oh the stitches were in austin yeah i got the stitches out in austin nice no okay so what happened was when i had the procedure i had a it was like a small line across the very back of my head and they had to stitch it up together so i had stitches i went into um the doctor's office my doctor in boston that that gave me the the new hair stuff or excuse me moved my own hair around on my head told me yeah you can go into any like minute clinic any urgent care and just ask them take stitches out they all know how to take stitches out so i go in there and the doctor sits me down and she looks at the back of my head and she goes oh my god and i was like excuse me and she's like oh no it's it's nothing i just haven't seen stitches like this before i was like oh okay and then she starts going around back in my head and she goes oh my god again i'm like what is that and she was like oh no i'm just confused and she kept saying oh my god and i kept thinking like is this infected infected? Do I have like spiders crawling out of it, Hank? Like the, oh my God reactions were just insane.
I was starting to get worried. And I was thinking, is she actually a doctor? Because she doesn't sound like she's a doctor.
So I ended up calling my doctor in Boston. And I was like, hey, she's a little confused.
She's wondering if maybe these are just absorbable stitches so she doesn't have to take them out and the guy's like absolutely not you need to take them out right now oh shit and he's trying to like walk her through it he's like no it's just one stitch that goes back and forth a few times and then there's a knot at each end and she was like i don't understand what you're saying she had no idea what my doctor was talking about and she kept trying she was having me reach around kept trying. She was having me reach around the back of my head, holding a flashlight on the back of my head.
And then she would get mad at me when the flashlight drifted a little bit. I was like, I don't know.
I can't see the back of my own head. So we do this for another 20 minutes.
Then she asked me to call my doctor again because she's still confused. And she's like, yeah, I don't know how to take these out.
And eventually my doctor had to be like, hey, PFT, are you still in the room right now? And I'm like, yeah, I'm on speaker. He's like, I want to say this as diplomatically and professionally as possible.
You might want to consider a different clinician to have this procedure done. So after about 45 minutes of her just slicing into the back of my head, I had to stop her and say, okay, I think you're uncomfortable with this and that's making me uncomfortable.
So I'm going to go. Then she goes out, grabs a different doctor to come in.
She's like, wait here, just one second. The doctor looks at it.
He's like, yeah, these are just stitches. And she's like, can you take them out? He's like, well, I'm with a patient right now, so I can't really take 10 minutes out.
And she's like, maybe on your lunch break, you can do it. And this doctor is uncomfortable too.
And he's like, yeah, lunch break you can do it and this doctor's uncomfortable too and he's like yeah i guess i can do it on my lunch break and she was like maybe i could watch so i could learn and he's like yeah maybe so she's like okay just come back in like 45 minutes and we'll take him out and i was like okay bye i go to the front desk and i said hey just tell her i'm not coming back i'm I just got the fuck out of there. Holy shit.
Then I ended up actually getting it done here in Chicago once I got back. And it took about seven minutes.
Oh, my God. So I don't think the person – I think it was a catch me if you can situation where in her wildest dreams, she's pretending to be an urgent care doctor.
Sitges can't be that difficult. They're not.
Yeah. They're not.
But for a while, they were. So just listen to yourself.
If you think, maybe I shouldn't be in this situation. But then again, she had all these tools in the back of my head, and I didn't want to just stand up and leave.
Yeah. That's a hell of a situation.
But besides that, doing good. I got Jaden.
Yeah, you got Jaden. And the stitches are out of your head.
Yep. I was actually a seam head for a while.
Yeah. My Fyre Fest is quick.
It's Derek Rose retired today, and that made me feel old and sad again for Derek Rose's career. Yeah.
That made me feel old. Yeah.
I saw that, and I thought that Derek Rose had already retired. Yeah, a lot of people did.
Because I think it was one of those rumors that the Dunk Sintel would tweet out once every six months, like, Derrick Rose has retired. Yeah.
So I got the exposure to that. So in the back of my head, I thought, like, maybe Derrick Rose has already been retired.
But, yeah, it doesn't – it's not right. It's not right what happened to Derrick Rose.
No, it's an all-time what if. But yeah, it was like he was so, so electric before he got injured and then injured again

and then injured again.

But yeah, it's a what if and it's also a damn.

We're getting old.

Yeah.

Hank, I'm sure you appreciate that.

That we're getting old.

I don't appreciate that.

That means I'm getting old. True.
That's how time works. Memes, you got a fire fest for us? My fire fest is if everybody hates the art we just put out in the interview, and I order some jet skier to my house on Long Island.
Oh. That's tough.
Wait. Also, you don't want to pay our editor enough money.
What?

Oh, yeah. Memes is low-balling our editor.

Do you see this?

No.

I saw it, yeah.

What?

There was a job listing.

This went kind of viral.

For part of my take, assistant editor.

Entry level.

And I think the pay was like $65,000 a year.

Wait.

People were roasting us?

Well, one-

Some guy tried to roast us.

He posted the listing, which is just like a regular entry-level editor position uh which by the way like i think i got paid no money and then twenty thousand dollars for like three years and he goes like 60k for one of the uh for a billion dollar company as if how much money barstool makes yeah what the fuck with how much an editor should make yeah barst Barstool's worth $1. Yeah, and then there's a lot of people being like, ah, this looks like actually pretty good job list.
Yeah, what the fuck? Barstool's worth a dollar. So did he get roasted back? That's how every single corporation in the world works.
Because even his friends online were like, that's not a bad salary for an entry level spot. And also, yeah, you like the value of a company.
Somebody made the comparison to like, you know how much McDonald's pays their employees. Yeah.
Or yeah, like Walmart and Usher at Jerry's World. Yeah.
Dallas Cowboys employee. Yeah.
They get paid what? Yeah. A fucking team worth $10 billion?

Yeah, but I think that's, from what I saw, that's a pretty fair.

Yeah, it's entry level.

It's fair pay, right, for that position?

And if you do a good job, you get paid more.

What's the meme saying?

It's kind of how it works.

I'm not sure.

Pug?

Yeah, it's fair.

It's fair.

Pug. Oh, I mean, you can't disagree with Pug.
This fucking guy, Brandon. Fuck you, dude.
You're going to go sure Pug? Yeah it's fair It's fair Pug Oh I mean you can't disagree with Pug This fucking guy Brandon Fuck you dude You're gonna go against Pug? Get out of here dude Get out of here Yeah there it is Roast them Love it Pug Alright numbers Max is at another wedding PFT and memes Have you ever gotten this? No Numbers

Five

Wednesday

I've never gotten it

Three

Let's go one

D-Rose

Let's go

Twenty

Ninety-nine

Pug

I have a feeling

It's going to be ninety-nine

This feels like a pug moment

Seventy-seven Thank you. I have a feeling it's going to be 99.
This feels like a pug moment.

77.

77.

Love you guys. Thank you.
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