NFL Week 4 Picks and Preview, TNF Needs More Flags + Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney In Studio

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Speaker 1 it is NFL week four picks and preview. We have our good friends Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissinette in studio as well for an awesome interview, catching up with the boys.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk Thursday night football, last game, blast baseball game in Oakland today. And we're going to finish off with Firefest of the week.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, September 27th, and PFT, we have arrived at the shitty Thursday night football games where everyone gets injured and we have a ton of flags.

Speaker 3 Yeah, at the very end of the game, it was like back to almost back-to-back plays where Micah Parsons out and then

Speaker 3 you had neighbors going out too. That was bad.

Speaker 1 Neighbors was breaking ankles out there.

Speaker 3 He played an awesome game. He's still very good.
I think he's got a concussion. That's what they say.
I don't know what's wrong with Parsons, but the flags were bad.

Speaker 3 The flags made this game unwatchable. And credit to Al Michaels.
He gets a lot of shit for if he doesn't celebrate a touchdown hard enough.

Speaker 3 But when Al Michaels is at his best now is when he's annoyed with the quality of football.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 And he was so annoyed. He gets into surly old man mode very early on.
And the first half, he was just like, well, this is awful. This is terrible, Kirk.
Get me out of here. And I agreed with him.

Speaker 3 It was terrible.

Speaker 3 We had an awful taunting flag on CeeDee Lamb for pointing at a defender as he ran to the end zone. Then I think he threw the ball kind of in his direction, like underhand after he scored.

Speaker 3 And the thought occurred to me for the first time when I saw that. It's actually worse.

Speaker 3 It's more emasculating for a defender to have a referee step in and throw a flag and be like, hey, stop making fun of that guy. Let me go throw a flag at you.

Speaker 3 That's worse than a guy pointing at you as you go into the end zone. I'd agree.
It draws way more attention to it.

Speaker 3 And then it's like, oh, you need this little referee with his tiny little flag to throw it in the air and blow his whistle.

Speaker 1 The ref is taunting more than CeeDee Lamb in this situation.

Speaker 3 Exactly. Let the boys taunt.

Speaker 1 Yes, I agree. Always let the boys taunt.
But it dawned on me that

Speaker 1 we go through the

Speaker 1 week one, Thursday night opener. Football,

Speaker 1 so happy football is back. Week two, oh, Thursday night, this is fun.
And then you get to three or four, and you're like, oh, yeah, I forgot. Thursday night football, we're going to watch it.

Speaker 1 We're going to consume it every Thursday because it's the official start of the weekend. Sorry, Hank, but it is.
It's the start of the weekend in the fall.

Speaker 1 But for the most part, it's going to be a shitty product, and you just hope a bunch of guys don't get injured, which happened tonight.

Speaker 1 We also had Micah Parsons giving Diggs a massage on the field like instantly. I love that.
Great teammate.

Speaker 3 Diggs went down, and then Micah over there started rubbing his foot. We know that Micah's a foot guy.
That's on the record. And then he moved up to the calf, started giving a nice little massage.

Speaker 3 If I were Diggs, I would... Would you prefer to wait for that doctor with a cowboy hat to get out there to give you the massage? Or are you okay with Micah doing it?

Speaker 1 I think you want it right away if you're cramping, which I assume that's what was happening. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be really bad if it was

Speaker 1 like an Achilles and he was doing that. It's like a real job.
Or like a real injury, and he was like, I got this.

Speaker 3 It's a partial tear. And then Micah gets out there with his strong-ass hands and just shreds it.

Speaker 1 I just assumed it was a cramp, which that is a bro move. Yeah, but you're right.

Speaker 1 Let me get this cramp out real quick.

Speaker 3 You're right. The Thursday Night Football, it reminds me of that old Donald Trump tweet about Coca-Cola, and he's talking about Diet Coke.
And he says the Coca-Cola company is not happy with me.

Speaker 3 That's okay. I'll keep drinking that garbage.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's how I feel about Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch it. No matter what.

Speaker 1 We also had, so we're going to get to our picks and preview in a second. Last A's game in Oakland, which was awesome.
Fuck John Fisher.

Speaker 1 It was cool to see the stadium completely packed. They won, which I'm happy for, even though we've lost a lot of money betting on the A's this year.
A lot. A lot.
I think we're down like 15 units.

Speaker 3 I think it's around 16 right now. And that's bad, but it's even worse knowing that we almost picked the White Sox.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And how much money we would have made. It was down to those two teams.

Speaker 1 We just went door two instead of door one.

Speaker 3 And I didn't want to piss off Chicago.

Speaker 1 I liked Chicago. They would have.

Speaker 3 I know.

Speaker 3 And then I talked to White Sox Dave. He's like, I don't know.
I think they've got some real competitive players out there. And then I'm like, okay, I guess I won't do it to Chicago.

Speaker 3 We would have made so much money.

Speaker 1 And White Sox fans would have been happy. I know.

Speaker 1 Jerry Reinsorf's a piece of shit.

Speaker 3 We fucked up.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was really cool to see that scene. Like it was a PAC stadium.

Speaker 1 Their uniforms are a top baseball uniform.

Speaker 1 They had a bunch of old legends out. Barry Zito sang the national anthem, which was cool.

Speaker 1 So again, fuck John Fisher forever. Oakland deserved better.
Yeah, and we stand with the A's.

Speaker 3 And I also stand with the fan who, I think it was last night, tried to steal one of the seats from the Coliseum. Yeah.
He stole an actual seat and then ran down the street with it.

Speaker 3 And then I think A's Security called the cops and had him chased down. Let him steal the seat.

Speaker 1 I guess there's an unaffiliated team maybe playing there next year.

Speaker 1 The Oakland Roots.

Speaker 1 Because I saw someone stole a seat and the Oakland, oh, it's a soccer team. The Oakland Roots tweeted and were like, hey, just a heads up.
We're playing there next year.

Speaker 1 If you could keep some of those seats, we'd really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Keep some of them, but let the boys have some fun, steal a seat. That's always good.
And then, you know what I hope they do next year?

Speaker 3 I hope, you know how they used to have the the raiders play at the coliseum yeah i hope that the soccer field still has the baseball field that would be awesome yeah that would be sick that on there yeah so we we feel for the city of oakland and then we also had uh golf hank

Speaker 1 no one's actually mad about scotty shuffler yelling at tom kim right that was awesome yeah that was awesome people some people were mad that tom kim i think the next hole they hit a birdie putt and before scotty shuffler putted tom kim and his partner just walked off uh oh that's good though dude these international tournaments should have nothing but bad blood.

Speaker 1 It should always be like close to fight, which would not be a fight because they're golfers. Who are we winning? Dominating.
5-0. We are? 5-0.
Sweep. Clean sweep.

Speaker 3 How'd Max do?

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 Love it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone won. How did Scotty do? One.

Speaker 3 Who lost? Nope.

Speaker 1 Internationals.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's 5-0.

Speaker 1 5-0? 5-0. 5-0.

Speaker 3 Yeah, fuck you, world.

Speaker 1 We're up 5-0. 5-0.
So is it over?

Speaker 3 Pretty much.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 1 What a domination.

Speaker 3 More than anything, I love it when the United States dominates tournaments that we don't give a fuck about.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the rest of the world cares deeply.

Speaker 1 What about Cantley and Shauffley? One. Okay.
What about Morakawa and Tagawa? One. What about Brian Harmon and Max Homa? These are tomorrow's pairings, I think.
Shit.

Speaker 3 But we're going to win that. Yeah, we're going to win that too.

Speaker 3 How many wins do we have to get to win?

Speaker 1 I think it's like 13 and a half if it's like the Ryder campaign. What about Henley and Scheffler?

Speaker 1 We haven't lost till tomorrow.

Speaker 1 No, that's today. One.
What about Bradley and Clark? One. What about Cantley and Sam Burns? One.
Fuck yeah, we won them all. Just check and make sure.
Max didn't play today, so to correct Hank.

Speaker 1 Well, he was a member of Team USA.

Speaker 3 He won. Oh, but

Speaker 3 he really won five.

Speaker 1 He won.

Speaker 3 Everybody won. So Max is playing tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 3 And he's going to win.

Speaker 1 Oh, he better win. Mexico

Speaker 1 Max. First of 15 and a half points wins the President's Cup.
So, yeah, we're going to.

Speaker 1 We could win this whole thing. No, we can't win it all tomorrow, but we're going to.
We'd be up 10-0.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 Saturday is singles. Sunday singles.

Speaker 3 So we can't win it on Saturday. We can be at 15.

Speaker 1 We really don't know the layout of this tournament.

Speaker 1 If it was the summer, I'd be a lot more locked in than I thought it was.

Speaker 3 You're always locked in in the summer.

Speaker 1 Why weren't you locked in on the golf today?

Speaker 1 I was busy.

Speaker 3 That's a trick question. Hank was locked in on golf today.

Speaker 1 Played well. No, the golf.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else before we get to picks and preview?

Speaker 3 I mean, I just want to clarify: Hank played well today, but we still beat him.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck it. Yeah, he still lost.

Speaker 1 PFT and his partner. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Say it. Ebo.
No, say it.

Speaker 3 PFT and my partner.

Speaker 1 No, PFT.

Speaker 3 One. There you go.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 By the way, quick note: we're going to do our picks and preview in a second. And then we have Biz and Witt on the show.
This week they're doing Surviving Barstool at the office.

Speaker 1 The interview is going to be our first ever black and white interview. So

Speaker 1 if you're watching it, it is art. We wanted to make sure that no one had a chance to be like, oh, this is a spoiler.
This is a spoiler. So enjoy it.

Speaker 1 We'll probably never do a black and white interview ever again.

Speaker 3 Well, I don't know. This shit might get us nominated for some cool, prestigious award because it does look really cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 It's like Mad madmen. It is really cool.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 watch all the way through for the surprise at the end. Oh, yeah.
There was a great special guest.

Speaker 3 Also, I forgot to bring this up. We were talking about Thursday Night Football.
Big Cat. I don't know if you caught this.
I don't know if you were at a TV with sound on in the first half.

Speaker 3 Maybe it was a start of the second half. But Al Michaels told us a story about Mike McCarthy that I had never heard before.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 You know what Mike McCarthy's first job was?

Speaker 1 Mechanic.

Speaker 3 He was a toll booth operator.

Speaker 1 Perfect.

Speaker 3 And I think the face stuck on him. That's perfect.

Speaker 3 I think he's just got resting toll booth face now.

Speaker 1 That's perfect.

Speaker 3 Just sitting there for hours. Yeah.
Just pissed off at the world.

Speaker 1 He's the perfect demeanor for a toll booth operator. No offense to toll booth operators.
Do they? Yeah, there are.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there are. There's usually one per

Speaker 3 plaza in case you get stuck in one and the arm doesn't go up.

Speaker 1 They come with the make press button. Yeah, they probably do.

Speaker 1 You think so? Yeah, I think they do.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was back when I was in high school or younger when minimum wage wasn't as high, but I remember minimum wage was $8 dollars and they were like toll booth operators make like 18 bucks an hour that's pretty good toll booth also

Speaker 1 whoa here we go yeah 15.85

Speaker 1 isn't it says now between

Speaker 1 12.50 and 25.9 25 bucks an hour shout out i bet you there's some toll booth operators listening to the show yeah what's up and you can skim off

Speaker 3 it's probably the easiest job to just pocket a little money at right yeah Little falls through the cracks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's get to ourselves, picks and preview, and then we have our first ever black and white interview with

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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, week four.

Speaker 3 You were just talking about Dan Campbell a second ago. That reminded me of his post-game thing where he was saying their head coach screwed up.
Yeah. You know how he like dissociated.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he like split himself up. I actually was thinking the other day, that's going to be good for the Lions because now head coach Dan Campbell is going to be thinking about post-game Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 Yep. And he's not going to want to let let post-game Dan Campbell down.

Speaker 3 So it's almost like he's coaching himself up, and he's an accountability guy. So he's like, I love Dan Campbell so much as a coach.
I can't screw up during the game.

Speaker 1 He's coaching a version of his, it's like his son, but it's him. And it's his best friend, but it's also him.

Speaker 3 Kind of like an avatar. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You don't want to, by the way, did you see there was an update to the Dan Campbell having to sell his house? So it was, it's kind of a fucked up story.

Speaker 1 His daughter's classmate posted his address after they lost the 49ers the nfc championship game and said like fuck you for going for it that's messed up messed up how that's messed up uh high school i think oh how and then and then like the the real issue was uh that dan campbell and his wife were still in san francisco and people started showing up to their house when his like his daughter was still was home that night after the loss and like honking and stuff so we need to get those you know those uh is it the hell's angels the motorcycle gangs that show up whenever the Westboro Baptist Church is protesting?

Speaker 3 Get David Wells.

Speaker 1 The Angels. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Have the people with the giant angel wings standing outside Dan Campbell's house protect that thing. I like that.

Speaker 1 I like that. But yeah, it's fucked up.
Dickhead move.

Speaker 3 That's what happens when you don't have a full picture of the history of the Lions when you're a high school student and all you've known for the last couple of years is optimism and success.

Speaker 1 You don't want to go back. Also, what happened when you don't understand analytics? True.
Because, like,

Speaker 1 those were analytic play, and also Dan Campbell, like, he was going off vibes.

Speaker 1 Actually that guy didn't know ball because he probably didn't watch the Lions all season.

Speaker 3 Also Josh Reynolds should have made that catch.

Speaker 1 That's also true.

Speaker 1 Okay, week four.

Speaker 1 It is, I still do treat week four as the end of the first quarter, even though we have 17 games, 18 weeks now. I don't know why.
It just will never get out of my head.

Speaker 3 Me too, but I think it's because I grew up listening to Joe Gibbs. You grew up listening to Lovey Smith.

Speaker 3 And those were two big guys that were into splitting the season up. First quarter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, four quarters. Yeah.

Speaker 1 so week four i can't believe we're already here week four i feel like this is the week where after week four we have a big enough sample size to know like what's a fluke and what's not also after week four there's buys oh yeah so that's always like fucked up like oh shit we're in bye weeks um so just before uh we get to each game uh this is hank you have been doing your hungry dogs for a few years now it's been uh dominating this year so underdogs a seven plus points to start the season are 4-0 straight up.

Speaker 1 The first time dogs of 7-plus are above 500 straight up through three weeks since 1956.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so if you look at the first three weeks,

Speaker 3 the biggest underdog of the week has won. The Patriots won in week one.
They were eight-point underdogs. The Raiders won against the Ravens week two.
They were nine-point underdogs.

Speaker 3 And then the Commanders won in week three. They were seven and a half point underdogs.
It's the first time in 70 years that's happened.

Speaker 1 Is this just simply that we are overrating the AFC North?

Speaker 3 That is a possibility.

Speaker 1 Because that was Bengals, Ravens, Bengals.

Speaker 3 That is a possibility. Or maybe we're just overrating the Bengals.
Yeah. No, that can't be it.
They're good. No.
Their defense is good.

Speaker 1 No, because the Ravens lost, too. So

Speaker 1 it's just an overrate. We put too much respect on the AFC North's name.

Speaker 3 But you know what? I'm fine with that. That division is football.
Yeah, there is definitely a

Speaker 3 division.

Speaker 1 That's the definition of football. Yeah, and NFL underdogs six-plus points are now 12-1 against the spread through three weeks.

Speaker 3 That's crazy. If you're a betting man uh which i think some people on this podcast are biggest underdog this week you know who it is hanks patriots again oh

Speaker 1 what is it 10 and a half get right game 10 right now 10. okay uh okay let's get into some games uh

Speaker 1 good slate good mix saints and falcons to start

Speaker 1 excited for this game I do think I like the Falcons in this game. I'll give you two reasons why I like the Falcons in this game.

Speaker 1 One, I think the Falcons played like that game against the Chiefs, they were very, very close to winning. And

Speaker 1 it felt like whatever happened at the end of the Eagles game, maybe the Falcons found a little bit of something.

Speaker 1 And I think the Saints are banged up and are coming back down to earth. So they have centers out, and Caesar Rees, their right guard, is out.
And I just, I like the Falcons. I like the Falcons.

Speaker 3 So the Falcons also have, I believe, two linemen that are out this game. And we did a bad job at the end of the Chiefs-Falcons game.
Hand up.

Speaker 3 We were recording as the game was ending, which is always, it's tough for us because we're trying to actually talk about the other games while keeping an eye on the Sunday night game.

Speaker 3 And for all the shit that we talked about, Chiefs' derangement syndrome after week one, when Bengals fans were doing the screenshots of the still frame of the pass interference that was actually pass interference,

Speaker 3 the Falcons had a completely legitimate gripe against the Chiefs at the end of Sunday night football for that pass interference in the internet. Correct.
You got fucked on that.

Speaker 3 So I just wanted to make sure that we said that out loud. That's not, but that's how they get you with the Chiefs' derangement syndrome.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The teams that complain too much about the, they cry wolf about the other calls. And then when it really happens, sometimes it slides under the radar.
Yep.

Speaker 3 You had every right to complain about that if you're a Soccer's fan.

Speaker 1 And also complain about your stretch run on fourth down.

Speaker 3 Yes, also complain about that. Now, part of that is that Kirk is definitely limited with his mobility right now.
Of course. So they can kind of, they know that he's not going to keep it.

Speaker 3 He's not going to bootleg out.

Speaker 3 He's going to stay relatively stationary. But that's kind kind of, that's usually when Kirk Cousins is at his best.
Yeah. He doesn't have to move too much.

Speaker 1 I just like them in this game because I think the Saints are going to struggle with the offensive line issues and the Falcons offensively. Have you seen, it's like the tired Wired.

Speaker 1 Tired is Bijan Robinson making incredible cuts and juke moves. Wired is Bijan Robinson just blowing up people in the blocking game.
He's such a good blocker.

Speaker 3 Dude, I love running back pass protection. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 There's nothing better than seeing a running back just lay out a lineman because they're always because they're they're always underdogs by nature yeah in that setting the guy who they're going to block is going to be bigger than them every single time and uh he had a couple i there was one in the eagles game where he blew someone up i think he had one in the the falcons game so yeah bijan maybe blocker of the year i love should he get a vote for block of the year all pro at lineman Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 They should give a vote or they should give a Pro Bowl position to just a blocking back

Speaker 3 just for third down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 that's my new Bijan Robinson. I love watching B.
John Robinson.

Speaker 3 I've added just watching him block people as well. So this is also kind of a revenge game for the Falcons.
Because if you remember last year, the way that the Saints-Falcons game ended,

Speaker 3 that was when the Falcons were getting beaten pretty badly.

Speaker 1 I'd like to forget every Desmond Ritter game, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 And Jameis Winston did the handoff at the end.

Speaker 3 The victory formation handoff.

Speaker 1 That was for the VOTS.

Speaker 3 Which Jameis was being a good teammate and trying to get his boy a touchdown.

Speaker 3 But the Falcons were pissed off about that.

Speaker 1 I don't think that is a revenge game just because that was a Jameis going rogue and he's not on the Saints anymore.

Speaker 3 I think they can use it. Yeah.
I think they can use it. I think Raheem Morris might dial it up at least one time in film session this week.
Like, look what they think about you.

Speaker 1 But they might, like, I would imagine if you asked, if you tried to get a Kirk, if you tried to get Kirk Cousins to buy in on the Revenge Factor, he'd be like, no, Jameis is a, you know, he's a God-fearing man just like me.

Speaker 1 He stands up in front of the streets.

Speaker 3 Hey, guys, let's turn the other cheek.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, exactly. He's not a revenge type of guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but maybe the defense is.

Speaker 1 Maybe the defense is. Yes, that's true.
I also think just the way that Jameis has been a star and so funny, you could never stay mad at him.

Speaker 1 Of course not. You can never stay mad at him.

Speaker 3 Of course not.

Speaker 1 You just can't.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, big game, huge game. Vikings at Packers, Jordan Love might be back.
Yeah. I believe he's going to be back.

Speaker 1 I'm intending on him being back. I think he's going to be back.

Speaker 3 He practiced. There were rumors that he was like doing walkthroughs and shit last week.
He was actually practicing this week. I think he's going to be back.

Speaker 3 So as much as I would love one more opportunity to bet against Malik Willis, it's been very financially productive for me. Yeah.
I don't think I'm going to get that this week. Now, I am,

Speaker 3 I think I'm 100% in on the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's funny because I have the exact opposite thought.

Speaker 3 I think I'm in on them. I don't think what they're doing is a fluke.

Speaker 3 I think that their defense is really confusing, and I think that Sam Darnold, I don't know if Sam Darnold's like a great starting quarterback at large in the NFL, but in this offense with this head coach, I think he's really, really good.

Speaker 3 I don't think that there's anything fluky about it. I think for whatever reason, it fits him, and I think I'm in on the Vikings this year.

Speaker 1 So I'm not

Speaker 1 saying I'm not, everything you said, I somewhat agree with. Like, it's not fluky in the fact that I think they're a good team i just think this is like their absolute uh

Speaker 1 sell-high spot well it's like everyone's like the vikings are for real the vikings for real i i'm i'm feeling like this is a spot where sam darnold's gonna lay an egg and everyone's gonna get off the scent and again i i think they'll still be good so i'm not gonna say if sam darnold comes out and plays bad i'm not gonna be like oh Vikings back to earth, they stink.

Speaker 1 I'm just gonna say I expected he'll throw in a clunker once in a while. That might happen this week.
And that's actually where the Vikings want to be because they want everyone off the cent.

Speaker 3 It sounds like you're being a little bit anti-Samitic.

Speaker 1 Anti-Samite.

Speaker 3 You're being anti-Samite.

Speaker 1 Anti-Samite.

Speaker 3 I am pro-Samite. Okay.
I don't know. What I've seen from him is really good.
And also, it's like strength for strength in this game. So the Packers have a really good run game.

Speaker 3 And the Vikings, I think, have the best run defense. And they've gone up against some pretty good running teams, too.

Speaker 1 Well, the Packers also have a good run game because they had to run. That's a week Willis.
So I don't. If Jordan Love's back, I think the Packers are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 And I might even take it if they're not back.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Vikings keep just rolling, but I feel like this is one of these 3-0 teams is going to have to lose this.
It's a get-right week for the favorites, I think.

Speaker 1 It might be.

Speaker 3 See, I'm also...

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, oh, the underdogs, underdogs, underdogs. Right.

Speaker 3 I've also not had a correct read on the Packers all season.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So keep that in the back of your head.

Speaker 1 I like the Packers in this game. I just, again, I think the Vikings are probably a playoff team, but they do better work when everyone doesn't take them fully, fully for serious.

Speaker 1 So if they win this game, like it's a visualization game. They win this game, they're 4-0.
They just beat the Packers, maybe even throw in the Lions losing on Monday night football.

Speaker 1 And so it's now 4-0, and everyone else is 2-2 in the NFC North. You're like, holy shit, they got a two-game lead.
I don't know. I just don't see it.

Speaker 3 I also got that wrong. They're the second best against the Rush in the NFL, but still very good for the Vikings defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just think the Packers will obviously be very different if Malik Willis is, if Jordan Love is back, they're not going to run the same way.

Speaker 3 It would be good for your personal discourse if the Vikings happen to win, and then you could say, like, go back to Malik Willis for the Packers.

Speaker 1 Oh, are you kidding me? That's going to be all I'm going to talk about. Yeah.
No, if Jordan Love plays and loses, I'm going to be a real fucking piece of shit online because that's all I got.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 You know what? Let's talk about it. I think

Speaker 1 it's a Rams, Bears. I think the Bears are going to win this game.
Same if I'm following my model that I just talked about. I think it's also.
But it's gross.

Speaker 1 It's a get-right game to get right.

Speaker 1 Get right.

Speaker 1 Get right week. The game after the kitchen sink is always tough because you don't have anything left to do anymore.

Speaker 3 You have nothing left. No leftovers.

Speaker 1 So there also is a stat behind that.

Speaker 1 Teams coming off of four.

Speaker 1 Kitchen sink is just cleaning stuff. No, it's a phrase, though.
Throw everything. No, I know, but like, there's no left.
It's just.

Speaker 3 You got the garbage disposal. This is a garbage disposal game.

Speaker 1 You're throwing a bunch of windecks at teams when you throw the kitchen sink at them.

Speaker 3 So wait, when you throw the kitchen sink, are you saying, is it like we're going to, we don't have anything left to eat, so we're going to take everything that's the dirty stuff that's in the kitchen sink and scrape it off, and that's what we're going to have?

Speaker 1 I think it's everything. Just pull the kitchen sink out of the socket and throw that.

Speaker 3 Okay, so you have no food left.

Speaker 1 No, no, the phrase is everything but the kitchen sink. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So you're just leaving just the kitchen sink.
You're packing up everything but the kitchen sink.

Speaker 3 Okay, so you still do have a kitchen sink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have a kitchen sink to piss in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have to piss somewhere.

Speaker 3 The Rams' past defense is really, really bad.

Speaker 1 Their entire defense is not great. They give up the most yards per play.

Speaker 3 So I think that this could... Hank might be right about this one.

Speaker 3 Is this going to be a Caleb coming out party?

Speaker 1 I mean, he threw for 363 yards last week.

Speaker 1 I think he's already out.

Speaker 3 You think he's out?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's out. Okay.

Speaker 3 I think this but if he goes if he goes dummy this game I think he's out already then I think that's the coming out party.

Speaker 1 Also, I said the Bears were going to win this game before Hank said the Bears were going to win this game. That's a fact.
That's true. But credit to Hank.
He did.

Speaker 1 And if Bears lose this game, I'm going to blame you. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 3 Is your boy Keenan Allen going to play this week?

Speaker 1 I believe he is, and I also believe they're finally going to make the right call and have Roshan Johnson start.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 little teaser, he's probably going to be in my TV parlay. I think Roshan is, I mean, you can see

Speaker 1 he's run a lot harder than DeAndre Swift, who

Speaker 1 I don't want to say DeAndre Swift stinks because the offensive line is not great, but DeAndre Swift might fucking stink.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Again, I'm a Bears guy because what I'm about to say is

Speaker 1 the clip, there was a viral clip that went out on social media that was like someone breaking down film of DeAndre Swift in slow motion, running into his players and defenders.

Speaker 1 Those clips are bullshit. Agreed.
When it's slow motion and it's like you have no time to think,

Speaker 1 it's a split second decision. He went right instead of when he should have went left and you cherry pick those and put them in slow motion, everything looks bad.

Speaker 3 Counterpoint, that's kind of your job as a running back.

Speaker 1 Here's my job.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying you cherry pick the bad ones and compile them together. It's going to look worse.
Right. Like there's a million of those every game.
Yeah, even

Speaker 1 every running back doesn't get it right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The film community online has gotten a little away from itself where there are people I follow who I trust who will show good and bad, but there's also an entire group of film community that will like just highlight one play and be like, what is this team doing?

Speaker 3 This guy's acting.

Speaker 1 This guy stinks. Look at how bad they are.
I think it's because you can get paid off Twitter now and they just know that they hate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'll just put up those bad clips and it's just like, okay, can you like, one, we don't know what everyone's... That's the other part is with the film.

Speaker 1 I trust some people, but I also think there's a lot of people who think they're film experts and they you don't know what everyone's assignment is on every single play, and they just kind of guess and they try to highlight one bad block or one bad run.

Speaker 3 This guy stinks with running backs too, where they have the still shots of where there's a hole. Sometimes the hole is not even there by the time the running back gets correct.

Speaker 3 It's just if you find a screenshot and there's open space, it's rushing disinformation, is what it is. Correct.
And so we've got to be on high alert for it.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say?

Speaker 1 I was just going to say that, like, DeAndre Swift has been in a lot of Eagles talk.

Speaker 1 Oh, you want him back? No. Oh.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 3 how much better

Speaker 1 the Eagles' offensive line is? Yes. Correct.
Correct. That's a no-brainer.

Speaker 1 And how much better Saquon Barkley is. Than DeAndre Swift?

Speaker 1 I like that. Because they were like, DeAndre Swift had

Speaker 1 the same running lanes as Saquon Barkley is getting this year, and we're seeing the difference. Oh, that makes me feel so much better.

Speaker 1 Because I saw someone posted the other day, they were like, I don't think DeAndre Swift's the best player ever, but maybe it's not all DeAndre Swift's.

Speaker 1 And it was like DeAndre Swift yards per carry was like 5.0, 4.8, 4.7, 5.2, and then this year it's like 1.6. But that makes sense.
He's not, he was a system running back.

Speaker 1 He had a great offensive line.

Speaker 1 Seems like a nice guy, by the way. I'm not trying to bash him.

Speaker 3 I would count this as a Caleb coming out party because the Bears' offense is last right now in DVOA.

Speaker 1 So if he has a good time. Third stat, cool.

Speaker 3 If he has a good one.

Speaker 1 He had fucking the most yards since Brian Hoare in 2016.

Speaker 3 So 363 yards. And if we're going off the trend of him doubling his previous yardage, which has happened every game this year, he will have 626 yards passing this week or more.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 3 Would be a record. Love it.

Speaker 1 He's already out. I don't need nerd stats to know he's already out.
He's been out. He's been out.

Speaker 1 He has been out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Rams are still

Speaker 1 very injured, but I don't know if they win this game.

Speaker 1 I guess I should start getting nervous about my pinky

Speaker 1 yeah i mean the rams are put together with like duct tape and bubblegum right now yeah but their coach is so good and their quarterback's so good if you look at coach versus coach in this game oh yeah one team has a big advantage i was thinking about this recently about your pinky team remember last year when or before the year you were like hyping up matt stafford to win mvp because you could i did this year that's what i'm saying yeah no it's stupid yeah you were you had this whole thought process of how like the Rams could go on a run.

Speaker 1 Matthew Stafford's so good. Yeah, this is going to.
I could. Yeah.
You just went full 180 in two weeks. Yeah, everyone's going to, like,

Speaker 1 I'm going to get all this credit for saying that Matthew Stafford, predicting Matthew Stafford's MVP season. When I say all this credit, like literally no one gave me any credit.

Speaker 1 What did it cost, my pinky? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, the Bears' defense is good enough where I think that they'll be able to take advantage of having a bunch of starters out on the Rams' offense. Yeah.

Speaker 3 The question is, is the defense on the Rams going to be as bad? Because they're lasting yards allowed, 425 yards a game. No other team gives up more than 400 yards a game.

Speaker 3 So they're last by a big margin.

Speaker 1 That also is that game against the Cardinals where they just got torched. Coming up.

Speaker 1 We're at that weird spot where three games is the sample size. So I start trusting stats, but you're also, I'd say, if you have one bad game, then you could be the worst and everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Steelers occults.

Speaker 1 I have a question. This might sound crazy

Speaker 1 because I'm not the biggest Anthony Richardson fan, but

Speaker 1 is Anthony Richardson potentially better than or can he play better than

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins' first game after an Achilles injury,

Speaker 1 Brookie or Bo Nicks,

Speaker 1 and significantly hurt Justin Herbert without Rashawn Slater and Joe Ald?

Speaker 3 I think he can.

Speaker 1 So maybe he can have better success against the Steelers' defense than the first three teams they played. I'm not saying the Steelers' defense isn't good.

Speaker 1 They have not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 The Steelers' defense is really, really good.

Speaker 1 It is, but they've also not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks. And could Anthony Richardson maybe play better than those three things I listed and win this game?

Speaker 3 I think he could, but also the Steelers, they have a formula, and

Speaker 3 they're going to bleed you out. on offense.
They're going to run the ball. They're not going to turn the ball over.
And then their defense is going to suffocate you. I feel like the Steelers,

Speaker 3 they're going to be one of those teams that people are like, how is their record so good this year? And it's because they, I love the fact that they just know who they are and they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Big time.
Big time.

Speaker 3 Also, Justin Field's playing pretty well. Yes, he is.
And Mike Tomlin has refused to name a starter.

Speaker 3 I think he's just going to do, we're going to ride with Justin until the wheels fall off, and then we'll put Russ in.

Speaker 1 Why do they cater to Russ like this? He hasn't done anything. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 Like, we watched him. He was, he's not good anymore.

Speaker 3 I think Russ kind of needs to be catered to.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They need to bring in, they need to basically do bar rescue.
The Steelers,

Speaker 1 if this becomes a quarterback controversy in any way or messes with Justin Fields' confidence, they should do bar rescue Sean Payton. And he just comes in and he just shits on Russ.

Speaker 1 And he's like, all right, I've done my job. I'm out.

Speaker 3 That would be fun. Also, Mike Tomlin should tell his medical staff to secretly treat Russ Wilson incorrectly.
Like, give him heat when he needs ice. Yeah.
Give him ice when he needs heat.

Speaker 3 So he's still got that nagging little injury in his calf.

Speaker 1 I don't think you have to be secret about it. You can just tell him this is a new formula to get back on the field.

Speaker 3 Yeah, listen, this is a, it's actually inspired by the blockchain. And so it's next-level shit.
So we're doing like crypto healing on you. Yeah.
And just wait. It's going to work really well.

Speaker 3 And then Russ will be like, yes, okay, that sounds like it's preparing me for excellence. Yes.
And then just keep Justin out there.

Speaker 1 Is Steelers' Colts one of those weird games I somehow remember? Maybe it's because of the playoff game and the Rothlessberger tackle

Speaker 1 or no, it was Peyton Manning tackle of, sorry.

Speaker 3 No, it's Ben Rothlessberger tackle of Bob Sanders. That's right.
That's right. Mike Vanderjack missed the fuel goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he got, was it, I don't think it was Bob Sanders, because remember it was the story was that the guy got stabbed the night before.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, it wasn't Bob Sanders. Yeah.
Yeah, it was somebody else.

Speaker 1 But I don't know why I always like, I can just remember a lot of Steelers' Colts games, and they have never once played in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 Well, I think, was that when Harbaugh was on the Colts and they lost to the Steelers in the AFC Championship game?

Speaker 1 Maybe, but I'm saying in like the last 20 years, they've only played in Indy in my mind.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 Again, this is not a real stat, but in my mind, they've only played in Indy.

Speaker 3 It's a sneaky, good uniform matchup.

Speaker 1 It is. It is.
It's very good. But yeah, I feel like they play every year and they play always in Indy.
Yep.

Speaker 1 That might be one of those. You know how Notre Dame will play

Speaker 1 in neutral sites, but they're not neutral because they're Notre Dame. They'll be like, oh, we'll go play a game in Texas.
Yeah. That's kind of like the Steelers game in Indy every year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it's a drive and Steelers fans travel anyway. Yep.

Speaker 3 We have the giveaway, too. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, so what do we want to do for the Colts?

Speaker 1 I think we go.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Let's get the

Speaker 3 who who got tackled.

Speaker 3 Oh, if they have that jersey?

Speaker 1 Yeah, which is kind of sad. But he survived.
No, no, I know if they have the jersey because they lost the game. Okay.

Speaker 3 And that was like, if he didn't get

Speaker 1 stabbed, maybe he would have been okay.

Speaker 1 Let's see. That was such a crazy play.

Speaker 1 Who did

Speaker 1 you just say, who did

Speaker 1 Ben Rothsberger tackle?

Speaker 3 No, yeah, who did Ben Rothsberger tackle? Harper. Jerome Bettisfumble.

Speaker 1 Harper. Harper.

Speaker 3 If you have a Harper Colts jersey, let us know and we will give you two free tickets to the Colts Steelers game in Indy this weekend.

Speaker 1 It's Nick Harper. Nick Harper.
Nick Harper.

Speaker 3 Do we have a backup plan if nobody has Nick Harper?

Speaker 3 Bryce Harper.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 If you have a Colts Bryce Harper jersey. Yep.

Speaker 1 And want to go to the game.

Speaker 3 And I tell you what, if we don't get any people that have the Nick Harper or Bryce Harper Colts jersey by like, I don't know, you want to say 2 p.m.

Speaker 3 If there's a Steelers Colts

Speaker 1 or a good custom Ben Roffesberger jersey

Speaker 1 that they want to travel with.

Speaker 3 Oh, we don't want to give these tickets to the Steelers figure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't want to give them a home advantage.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I might get my season tickets taken away by Mr. Ursay.
How about we do a couple? We'll do the couple. If there's a Colts and Steelers fan couple.

Speaker 1 But Nick Harper and Bryce Harper's Colts jerseys take

Speaker 3 priority.

Speaker 1 How would you even make up Bryce? Would you do the

Speaker 1 Colts jersey with

Speaker 1 the lettering style of the Phillies?

Speaker 3 It'd be Harper 34.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but also the lettering. You know that?

Speaker 3 He's not 34.

Speaker 3 What is he now? Shit. Yeah, it's 30.
Not number three. I thought you were trying to say it.

Speaker 1 Okay, continue.

Speaker 1 I thought you were known a bit there. What? No.
That like he's in. Yeah, but it was a bit.

Speaker 3 Well, no, I only recognized him when he wore number 35 for the nationals. He got a bit.
Fucking got him. When he brought us to World Series.

Speaker 1 Got him. Ha! Fuck you, Max.
You got got, bitch.

Speaker 3 Remember that when he left?

Speaker 1 That was a great. He got

Speaker 1 your ass. At the end of this postseason.
Yeah, I'm going to bet on the Phillies. We will.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up,

Speaker 1 Memesie. Broncos and Jets.

Speaker 1 Now, here's a question. Well, actually, not a question.

Speaker 1 The stat for you.

Speaker 1 Nathaniel Hackett,

Speaker 1 in his career, is 1-0

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 1 revenge games against the Broncos. Average margin of victory, 10.0.

Speaker 3 That's a nice neat. That's pretty crazy, right?

Speaker 3 That is crazy. This is a double revenge game.
Yeah, because we got Zach, right? Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 Well, we had

Speaker 3 Aaron Rodgers didn't get to avenge his boy.

Speaker 1 But he said he didn't care about it.

Speaker 3 No, he cares.

Speaker 1 He said that a lot of people say things they regret, and Aaron Rodgers definitely, or not not they regret what was the exact quote I wrote it down um

Speaker 1 that's old news we've all said things we'd like to take back so kind of regret is this when Zach Wilson makes Aaron Rodgers life hell

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 3 I think Sean Payne should make Zach Wilson a captain for this game agreed and Sean Payne's the kind of coach that would do that I bet you you're right And I bet you he somehow gets into the game on like some weird play.

Speaker 3 Like a gadget? Yeah, like a Philly special, Bronco special.

Speaker 3 They just try to force him in. Yeah, it'd be very funny if you got into the game and tried to run a Philly special and just got blown up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I didn't. Not meme style, but like by a defender.

Speaker 1 I didn't love Bo Nick saying that he is excited to meet Aaron Rodgers. I guess you can say it, but that is kind of weird still.
He said it's kind of surreal, really looking

Speaker 1 forward to meeting him for the first time.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 You're about to play him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't like that at all.

Speaker 1 And you also are going up against a revenge pod. Again, do I have to read this out again? Natanio Hackett's 1-0 all-time in revenge games against the Broncos, 10.0 average margin of victory.

Speaker 3 Memes, how do you feel about Olu Fishanu?

Speaker 1 I love him.

Speaker 3 And Aaron Rodgers said he reminds him of DeBrikasha Ferguson. That's a good comparison.

Speaker 1 That's a phenomenal comparison. That is a phenomenal.

Speaker 3 Morgan Moses, he's officially out. Yeah, about two to four weeks.
It was an MCL sprain. Did he go out leaning on his staff?

Speaker 1 That's a good one. Thank you.

Speaker 1 DeBrikashaw Ferguson doesn't get enough credit for having the coolest coolest name ever. Agreed.

Speaker 3 He was just an absolute stud. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He needs more credit. We need to remember how cool Debricasha Ferguson's name is.

Speaker 3 Because DeBricasha is an awesome first name.

Speaker 3 But when you match it up with Ferguson, it's like Vince McMahon meme in the chair just exploding at the end. Yeah.
The Ferguson sets it off. Yeah.
We have to do a review of that doc.

Speaker 3 Do we?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just interested to watch it because Vince McMahon came out and said that it was all fake news before the dock came out, which means I really want to watch it now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I watched the first two episodes last night. It's pretty fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's done a lot of crazy, fucked up things. He's Vince McMahon.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's like that governor from North Carolina that was like, I don't know what's about to come out, but it's all going to be lies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I won't spoil it, but they started it, like, the first episode was basically saying they interviewed all these, all the A-list WWE people for a documentary.

Speaker 1 And then after doing a ton of the interviews, all of the allegations and the report in the Wall Street Journal stuff came out.

Speaker 1 So all the interviews with Vince were done before that. And then it starts with his interview being like, all right,

Speaker 1 I'm talking about me. I'll tell you guys the good stuff.
But he's like, I should tell you the real stories, but I can't. Like, I don't want you to know the real me.
Yeah. And I was like, uh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, the dark side of the ring,

Speaker 1 if people haven't watched that, it was phenomenal. Obviously, it's not every single episode's about Vince.
It's about all wrestling.

Speaker 1 But yeah, wrestling is crazy, and there's crazy, fucked up stories behind it.

Speaker 3 Can we get somebody to look up this stat? The teams that stay at the Greenbrier when they're staying on the East Coast. What is their record after staying at that specific place?

Speaker 1 Chompayne just loves the Greenbrier.

Speaker 3 I think it might be one of those things that like Bill Parcells taught him. Yeah.
Like this is the hotel and then he's just grown up like as a head coach always going back to the Greenbrier.

Speaker 3 He's got like a points card there.

Speaker 1 He loves that place.

Speaker 3 I think he's got a points card at the Greenbrier, but that's where they chose to stay. Harbaugh for some reason chose to stay in Charlotte.
He did not choose to stay at the Greenbrier. Mistake.

Speaker 3 Teams this year are 0-1 staying in Charlotte. Charlotte.
Yeah, except for the Panthers who won a game.

Speaker 1 No, but they didn't stay in Charlotte that day. They didn't? No, they were in Las Vegas.
Okay, there you go. Yeah, no team.

Speaker 1 No team has won.

Speaker 1 No. Teams have won in staying in Charlotte because the Panthers lost.
Okay.

Speaker 1 We'll fine-tune that.

Speaker 3 But I'm saying the Green Briars specifically. I want to know what the record is, if there's that stat available out there.

Speaker 3 I want to know if there's any magic in those hills.

Speaker 1 I would like to as well.

Speaker 1 I know we don't do Football Guy of the Week anymore, but Alex Singleton wins Football Guy of the Week. Did you guys see this story? He tore his ACL against the box.

Speaker 1 He's a linebacker for the Broncos, then went on to have, he did it in the first quarter, went on to have 10 tackles after the game was like, hey, I'm a little sore.

Speaker 1 And they looked at it and like, yeah, dude, you got to tore an ACL.

Speaker 3 Respect. It's crazy.
Massive respect.

Speaker 1 I'm a little sore.

Speaker 3 It also makes me question everyone that has an ACL injury. Phil Rivers.

Speaker 1 He played in the

Speaker 1 championship game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think we're ACL truthers.

Speaker 1 I think ACL is, yeah.

Speaker 1 Someone Someone told, it's basically like when you get told as a kid, like, don't go swimming after eating tunnel fish or, like, don't do this, you know, something that scares you.

Speaker 1 If you make a funny face and get hit in the back, you'll be stuck in that face.

Speaker 3 Don't take a shower during a thunderstorm. You'll get electrocuted.
Don't stand too close to the microwave. It'll give you cancer.

Speaker 1 Pop rocks and soda, those type of things. Maybe that's just all an ACL is.
Like, don't tear your ACL. You'll be out for nine months.
No, how is that true? You can still play on it.

Speaker 3 It might be a trick that football coaches give where they tell players you have a torn ACL, and if you choose to play through it, then you know that you're tough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe, maybe an ACL isn't that bad.

Speaker 1 Also, I just wanted to say Patrick Statan deserves a lot of credit for being a fucking stud. I know there was a couple PI calls in the Steelers game, but he has gone up against DK Metcalf week one.

Speaker 3 Mike Evans, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, three receptions, 29 yards. George Pickens, two receptions, 29 yards.
Mike Evans, two receptions, 17 yards. Yeah.
He's fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 Very good.

Speaker 1 And he makes everything else work when you have a guy like that who can just eliminate someone.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up. So, Garrett Wilson, not his day.
We can continue the narrative of Aaron Rodgers. Does Aaron Rodgers hate Garrett Wilson?

Speaker 3 I love that that happens whenever one receiver isn't playing well with Aaron Rodgers. It's because he hates him.
Yeah. He won't talk to him.

Speaker 1 And it's also funny because what did you think was going to happen? He got Alan Lazard on the team. He's going to throw it to him.

Speaker 3 Bad vibes. He likes him.
Bad vibes from Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 1 Eagles at Box.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 Would you say Max?

Speaker 1 Please rank the top five players on the Eagles when fully healthy.

Speaker 1 Three of them will not be playing in this game. Oh, you got to ruin it.
I wanted you to rank them and then we could figure out where they are. But yes, three of them will not be playing this game.

Speaker 1 How would you rank the top five players? Lane Johnson, one. Lane Johnson, A.J.

Speaker 3 Brown. Cooper DeJane.

Speaker 1 Reed Blanketch. Jalen Carter, Jalen Hurts, Devontae Smith.
Okay. So three of the top five

Speaker 1 are not playing in this game. That's a problem.

Speaker 3 That's a big problem. Is this a get-right game for Bryce Huff?

Speaker 1 Nah, he sucks. I'm done with him.
I'm done with him.

Speaker 3 We told you last week going to the Bucs game that the Bucs allow people to get to Baker Mayfield faster than any other quarterback gets gotten to.

Speaker 3 Like the time after snap, people are getting to Baker, and I think they sacked him seven times last week. This might be the get-right game for Bryce.

Speaker 1 No, it'll just be Jalen Carter eating again. Okay.
I hate Bryce Off.

Speaker 3 He sucks. That's sad.
That's sad that he turned on him so fast. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Do you think you're going to win this game?

Speaker 1 Honestly, it makes no sense that

Speaker 3 they're two-point favorites in this game.

Speaker 1 Explain that to me. I really can't.
That's the only reason I think that they might because that line makes zero sense. The only thing I can think of is

Speaker 1 the Bucs just might we might have gotten way too ahead of ourselves with the bucks you know i know the win against the lions was big but the bucks got dominated in that game on the stat sheet they won the game maybe

Speaker 1 and then they got then they lost to a 0-2 broncos team the eagles are two and one and oh by the way they're dominating on the stat sheet the other way like they dominated the saints so maybe the eagles are good i need to i need to i need to rewind i you say

Speaker 1 I know. I knew you said.

Speaker 1 You know why?

Speaker 1 Because you're obsessed with Jalen Carter. I am obsessed with Jalen Carter.
You got blinded by Jalen Carter.

Speaker 1 The Eagles fans are going to be pissed at me. Wait, so who's out?

Speaker 1 I think Jalen Carter. Is he out? Nah.
Nah, Devontae. I'll take Jalen Carter over Devontae Hurts.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 No one wants to hear me say the three out of the top six. All right, fine.
I'll take

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts. I'll take Jalen Carter out.
Okay. No.
He's six.

Speaker 3 Max tried to trade away Jalen Hurts on Wednesday's show.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 I would take that trade, yes.

Speaker 3 I know. That makes me so happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 that's just math.

Speaker 3 I've just been going through the list this week. Like, I'm a real sicko.
I get one sniff of victory, and I start to think to myself, who would I take a trade for?

Speaker 3 I'd trade him for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I would. PFT, I don't know if you would.
Patrick Mahomes has kind of been bad.

Speaker 3 I think I would trade Jaden Daniels for Patrick Mahomes. And the other trade that I would consider

Speaker 3 for the rights to Arch Manning and every future Manning throughout American history. Get the bloodline.
So then I get like 100 years of sustained success.

Speaker 1 I like that a lot.

Speaker 3 Besides that, no deal.

Speaker 1 Get the whole bloodline.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think the Eagles might win because it makes no sense. The line makes no sense.
But they have. And I think that they might win.
I think they might win. Their offense,

Speaker 1 it's Jahan Dotson, Paris Campbell, Johnny Wilson. That's your receiving room on Sunday.
Britton Covey. Britton Covey IR towards his shoulder.

Speaker 3 Someone look up.

Speaker 1 Is Vita Vey still out?

Speaker 1 That might be a way to just pound the rock.

Speaker 1 I guess. But then you're missing your top lineman.

Speaker 1 But it makes no sense. So I'm going to take that.
That's exactly. It makes no sense on the road.
Why are they two-point favorites with their entire offense out?

Speaker 3 I love the battle of the stupid coaching styles going at one another. So

Speaker 3 you've got Todd Bowles, who is the most conservative coach in the NFL when it comes to fourth downs and going for it.

Speaker 3 And then you've got Nick Siriani, who is just stupidly reckless sometimes with going fourth downs.

Speaker 1 I would just say stupid. Stupid, yeah.

Speaker 3 But his stupidity, at least his stupidity is consistent.

Speaker 1 Consistently inconsistent. Vita Vey returned to practice yesterday.
It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Because he is stupidly, he does make no rhyme or reason. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. I like the Eagles.
I think we talked our way through it

Speaker 1 i like the eagles specifically because vegas knows something no because vegas knows something yeah i i it makes no sense makes no sense the only sense i can think of is like i said if you look at uh the way the bucks have won like they got doubled up in yard and yards per play and yards is not indicative of everything but there are certain box like A 15-12 game that you won against the Saints, if you looked at the box where you're like, oh, that was a really close game.

Speaker 1 The Eagles were able to move the ball. The Saints weren't.
Like, that's a fact. Same with the Bucs and the Lions.

Speaker 1 The Bucs beat the Lions. If you watch that game, the Lions were able to move the ball.
They just couldn't get it in the end zone, which is part of the game.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think we take the Eagles as a team. Hank's been saying, get right for the favorites.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Bengals and Panthers. This is finally a do-or-die game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would say so. I would say if the Bengals lose this one, their season's cooked.
Starting 0-4 would be very, very tough, if not impossible, to come back from. Yep.

Speaker 3 And if you look at the schedule, which is one of the easiest in the NFL, in theory, for the Bengals moving forward, if you lose the game against the Panthers, then you can't count anything as a win.

Speaker 3 I'd agree.

Speaker 1 Did you know that Andy Dalton won the FedEx

Speaker 1 Aaron Ground Player of the Week? I think Jaden Daniels won a bunch of awards too, but did you know that was the first time in Panthers history a player won the FedEx Aaron Ground Player of the Week?

Speaker 3 So FedEx wasn't a sponsor when Cam Newton?

Speaker 1 I think they were. I think the award's been around for like two decades.

Speaker 3 So in his MVP season,

Speaker 1 I don't think he ever had a week where he won it.

Speaker 3 That's strange.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is the first time any Panthers quarterback has earned this honor in the 22-year history of the award. That's very strange.
Yes, no Cam Newton somehow, no Jake Dalom.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, Jake Dalom.

Speaker 3 I think Andy Dalton is just still, I think he's just still good. I think he's a perfectly fine quarterback.
And this is a revenge game, too.

Speaker 1 It is a revenge game

Speaker 1 without Adam Thielen, and he got the surprise factor. I think maybe this is maybe the game that the Bengals

Speaker 3 have to win one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because they have to win one. Because their offense is still very good.
Yeah. Do you know someone, I saw this online.

Speaker 1 Someone was tweeting about this, that they did the playoff predictors calculator thing. And there is a world

Speaker 1 where the Bengals win out 14 and 3 and miss the playoffs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because someone it can win like 15, yeah.

Speaker 1 Someone did it.

Speaker 1 It has the Steelers as 14, 2, and 1 winning the NFC, ARC North. It has the Chargers as 14, 2, and 1.
It has the Chiefs as 13, 2, and 2. Two ties.

Speaker 1 It has the Jaguars at the fourth seed being 14 and 3. Love that.
The Texans at 14 and 3. The Dolphins at 14-3.
The Bills at 14-3. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, that would be chaos. If there's a team out there with two titles.

Speaker 1 I love how, I mean, that guy had to just sit there forever hitting just every single iteration to try to find the formula.

Speaker 3 Listen, as a team that oftentimes finds themselves at about four and eight after 12 games, I'm very experienced with manipulating the playoff predictor.

Speaker 3 You can spend a half hour on there and get any result that you want.

Speaker 1 Would that be the craziest sports story ever if they won 14 in a row and still didn't make the playoffs?

Speaker 3 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for it now.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so Adam Thielen out is going to be, I think, a pretty big deal

Speaker 3 because Andy Dalton loves him. He's still good.
Adam Thielen is still an effective wide receiver when he has an actual quarterback that's throwing the ball to him.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, I do like the Bengals in this one. My question for Bengals fans out there, I think that you agree with me on this.

Speaker 3 Why is Chase Brown not getting the ball more?

Speaker 3 Why do they keep having Zach Moss be their number one guy? Because Chase Brown is so much more dynamic than Zach Moss is. I agree.
It It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 I was cheering so loud to put Zach Moss back in the game when I was at the game on Monday night because he's not bad. He's not a bad running back, but Chase Brown is so much better.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'd agree. I'd agree.

Speaker 1 It doesn't make sense. Maybe this is just an off-Bengles year because you know Zach Taylor has only finished fourth or first in the AFC North.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so this might be number four.

Speaker 1 It's just Feast or Famine. His first year, obviously, was before Burrow, so it was 2-14.

Speaker 3 How sick would would it be if joe burrow got rid of the frosted tips before this game but he did it by dyeing his hair red

Speaker 3 so we have a ginger off yeah that'd be nice you should just mock him yeah

Speaker 1 uh okay uh i think this is the last early slate and then we have a few late slates jaguars at texans

Speaker 1 the Jaguars are in trouble. We have some Doug Peterson quotes.

Speaker 1 I'll read you the first one.

Speaker 1 He said, listen, the speeches are done. The speeches are over.
We don't need any more rah-rah stuff.

Speaker 1 It's just time to go play football, fix the mistakes, and do everything we can to play our best football this weekend. Isn't that kind of a speech?

Speaker 1 Isn't that kind of a rah-rah?

Speaker 3 Yeah, the speeches are over. No more speeches.
It's on you, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no more rah-rah is rah-rah. Yeah.
Like, we got to just play.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It might be time for a players-only meeting in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well, everything is on the table, he said.

Speaker 1 That's a bad sign. Also, he said that we've had great conversations before and after football games when talking about his relationship with Shad Khan.

Speaker 1 There's no way they've had great conversations after these football games.

Speaker 3 No, I'm thinking through all their losses this year, and I don't think a single one would have a positive.

Speaker 1 Maybe the week one being like, man, we were real close to that Dolphins. Good first half.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Good first half, though.

Speaker 1 There's just no way that he's, there's no way they're having great conversations.

Speaker 3 So Hank was, he was all over the Bill Belichick to Jacksonville. Did you get that from Albert Breer by any chance, Hank? No.

Speaker 1 It was just you. It was a screen.

Speaker 3 Just you. Well, now Albert Breer is talking about it, too.

Speaker 1 Albert Breer got it from Hank. He got it from Hank.
Come on.

Speaker 3 So, Albert, please credit your sources.

Speaker 1 Please.

Speaker 3 I'm starting to think that there might be some truth to it. It would look weird.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 That might be the one uniform that I think Bill Belichick would look the weirdest wearing in terms of those colors, the Jaguar head on his polo shirt.

Speaker 3 I can't visualize it. But then again, I think when we talked about the weirdest uniforms Tom Brady could wear, I think the Bucks were right up there at the top.
Yeah. Like, I can't picture it.

Speaker 3 So, Hank, you might be onto something.

Speaker 1 And I think that's what you want to root for, Hank.

Speaker 1 Cowboys would be the best. Yeah, Cowboys, but if you're...
Just for the just for the takes, it's bigger in Dallas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, outside of the Cowboys, though, like, you don't, it's going to be weird for you to see Belichick coaching another team, just like it was weird for Tom Brady and like PFT said.

Speaker 1 You almost want it to be the most random. It doesn't feel almost real if he's the Jaguars head coach.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think anywhere not in the FC East is fine, though.

Speaker 3 What about the Giants?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No.
Because that could be open. Yeah.
I could see him. And

Speaker 1 he loves the Maras. I could see him.
He's got a couple rings there.

Speaker 3 I know he's never put on the Giants polo before, but I could see it.

Speaker 1 I could visualize it. You should do a Photoshop.

Speaker 3 I'm visualizing. It feels a little grainy to me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He looks good. He looks younger.
He looks skinny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's skinny.

Speaker 3 I would hate that. So I'm rooting for that just because

Speaker 1 I blindsided you with that one yeah

Speaker 1 which shouldn't make too much sense there yeah

Speaker 1 um also here's another doug peterson quote uh the confidence is high again no chance there's no way the confidence is high with the jaguars right now it's the best team they've ever assembled uh i do feel that we have to just focus in on us internally as keep and keep things nice and tight so they're doing the nice and tight you know we got to beat the guys in this locker room eliminate the mistakes that are happening and try to play your best football didn't the jaguars beat beat the Texans in Houston last year?

Speaker 3 I know they beat them one time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like that was one of those ones where the Jaguars kind of owned the Texans for a while.

Speaker 3 Because the Jaguars, they were very, very good at the beginning of last year.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 I like the Texans in this game because part of me wants to

Speaker 1 try to figure out

Speaker 1 how can I time the Jaguars correctly, figure this out.

Speaker 1 I think maybe I can't and they just stink.

Speaker 3 I I might try to time the Jaguars on this.

Speaker 1 Okay, go for it.

Speaker 3 I might try to guess. Is it seven points?

Speaker 1 It is seven, I believe, yes.

Speaker 3 I might try to time them. Good luck.

Speaker 1 Good luck, buddy.

Speaker 3 I might. This is a bad idea,

Speaker 3 but I think I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Time them.

Speaker 3 I'm going to time them. Time them.

Speaker 1 Is this the week? You don't have to do it this week.

Speaker 1 You could say you're going to time them. No, this is the week.

Speaker 3 Wait to time them. No, this is the week.
I'm not going to delay my timing of them. This is the week.

Speaker 3 It's a divisional matchup. And guess what? They pay these guys on the Jaguars to play football.

Speaker 1 Facts. That's fax.

Speaker 3 These guys are professional football players.

Speaker 1 I just looked over and memes was doing like a meathead

Speaker 1 nod, like nice squat bro. He's just going like this.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Memes knows.
Memes knows ball. Listen, no more time for rah-rah speeches.
Time for speeches is over. Jaguars.
Your head coach isn't going to talk to you anymore. Okay.
It's on you guys. Men.

Speaker 3 You want to be men? Go out there and prove it. Yeah.
Prove to me that you're men, boys, because I'm not going to say anything, boys.

Speaker 1 You're men. And we're not going to do rah-rah's.

Speaker 3 No rah-rahs. And no speeches.
Let's go go out there and get them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stay tight. It's all the guys in this locker room, but we're not doing speeches.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think the Texans are going to win this game. But we're going to,

Speaker 1 you know what? I'll time with you.

Speaker 3 Let's time it. I'm not saying the Jaguars are going to win.
No, cover.

Speaker 1 Cover.

Speaker 3 I'm giving a speech to them to cover. Yeah, let's time it.
No, let's go out there and cover.

Speaker 1 There's no time better than today to time the Jaguars

Speaker 1 because they don't play today, so we couldn't actually lose today. That's true.

Speaker 1 Patriots and 49ers.

Speaker 1 This is like they're going to check into the game one time.

Speaker 1 And that was Patriots 49ers.

Speaker 1 If you're watching Red Zone, or you're watching the prime time 4 o'clock Fox game or CBS, whatever it is, they'll cut to this game maybe once, maybe twice. It'll probably be gross.

Speaker 1 Get right game for the favorites. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not a lot of confidence. Not a lot of confidence.

Speaker 3 So I have an interesting nugget here that we can talk about. Do you want to hear a nugget? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 3 stop me if you've heard this before, but Kyle Shannon had a lead, and then he refused to run the ball, and he passed too much, and then lost the game. That happened last week.

Speaker 3 The Patriots are not, I wouldn't say that they're an aggressive, pass-happy offense. They're not built to

Speaker 3 blow you out by taking shots downfield. Would that be fair to say, Hank?

Speaker 3 They some, for some reason, did that last week, especially at the start. They threw the ball a fuck ton.
I feel like this is a double correction game.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 3 Where Shanahan, fresh off his,

Speaker 3 oh shit, I did the Super Bowl thing again, is going to pound the rock, and the Patriots are also going to pound the rock.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a rock off.

Speaker 1 Which, yeah,

Speaker 1 like adds up to my point, being it's going to be like a 13-3 game.

Speaker 1 You think it's a 13-3 game?

Speaker 1 I think the 49ers. 16-3? Yeah.
Who? 49ers. I think the 49ers might score a little bit more than that.

Speaker 1 Patriots' defense looks slow.

Speaker 3 I mean, follow the trend. Biggest underdog.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 3 I don't believe in you, Hank. Get right.
Do it.

Speaker 1 For who?

Speaker 1 The favorites. It could be a get right for the Patriots.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 You've got conflicting get rights going on. No.

Speaker 1 I've been steadfast. Do you think we see Drake May?

Speaker 1 I think it's a. I hope not.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even in the one drive that he played, he got crushed.

Speaker 3 When do you want to see Drake May?

Speaker 1 When we have an offensive line that can block for him.

Speaker 3 So not until next year.

Speaker 1 And maybe the year after. Yeah, next year.

Speaker 3 Are you saying shut Drake May down for the season?

Speaker 1 Not shut him down, but I would not get like, I get more scared than excited if he goes in. I think that's fair.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because again.

Speaker 1 What's the best case scenario if he plays?

Speaker 3 Well, even if you well, if you win out, you could guarantee you guarantee yourself a playoff spot because you already have that one win

Speaker 1 so by the math that we just went through you could clinch if you went if you won out you control your own destiny yeah you could yeah i guess that i don't i don't see it that way but in theory you're right super bowl goes through foxbro this year uh

Speaker 1 i don't i i don't know if the 49ers are uh

Speaker 1 not good because they're hurt or maybe this is just the year from hell for them. Or Or maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 3 So, Christian McCaffrey, it was reported earlier this week, he took a little trip to Germany to see a doctor. To me,

Speaker 3 to me, that doesn't crazy. That doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of reason for optimism when he's going to Europe to see a doctor.

Speaker 1 Did you hear Ryan Whitney say that he heard a rumor that he might retire? Really? Yeah. That seems crazy.
Whitney also,

Speaker 1 he's on in a minute here, but like,

Speaker 1 he's stick to hockey, buddy. He can do the rumor boys for hockey.
He actually admitted in the interview that's coming up that they just fuck around a lot with rumors. Yeah, so that's a crazy rumor.

Speaker 3 It's a crazy rumor. Definitely not true.

Speaker 1 You can't say that stuff on a podcast. You can't.
It's crazy if it was true. It's crazy if it was true.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Where did he hear it from? I don't know. He said someone from Barcelona, but I don't know.
I didn't ask him who it was. I mean, these walls, if they could talk,

Speaker 1 they'd be like, Chris McCaffrey might retire.

Speaker 3 Well, so Whitney, he was so crazy if he was out.

Speaker 3 It is right. He was out on the golf course earlier this week.
Whitney was. Do you think he heard it on the golf course from somebody?

Speaker 1 Who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 3 So, yeah, McCaffrey is in Germany seeing a doctor for experimental reasons. I hope.

Speaker 1 Hobey did this. Yeah.

Speaker 3 German doctors running experiments. It doesn't always turn out so good.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 If he was going to retire, do you think it's a situation where he goes to Germany and the German guy tells him he has to retire? And that's what cues it off.

Speaker 1 I think you go to Germany as the last stop. Right, but you go to Germany and they're like,

Speaker 1 We don't got any of that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, the German told me to quit, so I quit. Imagine if FDR felt that way, Hank.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's weird, Hank.
Would be crazy.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 if we see Christian McCaffrey this year, Whitney, it's despicable what you did.

Speaker 1 And if Christian McCaffrey does, in fact, retire, we should get to find out who the source is and give that person credit.

Speaker 3 So what would the reason be for going to Germany? Is he getting a treatment done that's not legal legal in the United States?

Speaker 1 I think they just have, they do a lot of like stem cells stuff, I think.

Speaker 1 Kobe did it with his knees. Yeah.
So they probably just have, I don't know, you get another opinion. Okay.
You get bored of getting second opinions just down the street.

Speaker 1 You're like, all right, let's go to Germany. It might help.

Speaker 1 Is it like Turkey for hair plugs? Like, there's just

Speaker 1 something that German doctors can do that American doctors can't. Germany.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, some American doctors are very, very good at doing hair plugs, Hank.

Speaker 1 That's true. Really good.
But

Speaker 1 it's cheaper, but that wouldn't make sense for McCaffrey. Like, people go to Turkey for hair plugs because they don't want to pay the premium that Americans cost.

Speaker 3 It's a bunch of collegiate athletes flying back on German airways, and they've all got their knees wrapped up. Yeah, like what?

Speaker 1 But Chris McCaffrey doesn't. All right, I'm finding it out for you right now.

Speaker 1 All right, so there's a German doctor that does a

Speaker 1 it's referred to as regenokin,

Speaker 1 also known as orthokin. According to WebDMD, it is a type of regenerative medicine that uses your own blood to treat your joint pain.
This serum is made from your blood.

Speaker 1 It's treated in such a way that it produces anti-inflammatory protein called IL-1 receptor antagonist.

Speaker 1 This protein may change your body's inflammatory response and improve any damage to your cartilage. So it sounds like it's a procedure that we don't do in the States.

Speaker 1 People who have done it are Kobe Bryant, Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods, Trace McGrady, and Freddie Couples. That's funny that Boom Boom Went did it.
Yeah, Freddie Couples. Yeah.
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's probably, yeah, so I probably doesn't happen here. And I remember when Kobe did it, like his knees bounced back for another year or two.

Speaker 3 I do think that there's something to having a doctor with an accent tell you something that makes it sound more official. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like if I hear a foreign accent, especially like a European accent from a doctor, you feel like you're in Rocky Ford. I'm like, that guy knows what he's doing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, that was our Patriots 49ers preview.

Speaker 3 Whatever happened to just going to see Dr. James Andrews? He doesn't do this kind of stuff.
Good, solid American.

Speaker 1 Achilles, he doesn't do this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Browns Raiders.

Speaker 1 I like the Raiders just because of the business decisions that were talked about.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but is he overreacting?

Speaker 1 No, I saw some of the tape.

Speaker 3 Well, I saw one cornerback that looked like he was completely checked out during one play.

Speaker 1 I saw a few, but you don't check out on Antonio Pierce team.

Speaker 3 That's right, but I just feel like he might be doing the hard-ass first-year head coach thing. Like, he might be over-correcting where he's saying he might also bench Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 1 I mean, they lost to a team that hadn't had a lead in the fourth quarter for 20 games. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that was pretty embarrassing.

Speaker 3 You have to fix things for sure. But I get the feeling like Antonio Pierce is doing, it's the classic hard-nosed first-year head coach thing where he's like, I'm going to fix everything immediately.

Speaker 1 So, you like the Browns?

Speaker 3 Get the bums out.

Speaker 3 No, I don't like the Browns, but in this game, I think I like

Speaker 3 them at all. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I saw Deshaun Watson his media day.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 his answer that I'm about to read, technically, he's right. I just fucking, he's so, he's the worst.
I don't, I feel bad for Browns fans at this point.

Speaker 1 Deshaun Watson was asked about more designed runs in the offense, and he responded that he is not a running back. I'm not going in there to ask them for more designed runs.

Speaker 1 I don't have to run, I'm not going to run. I'm not trying to take any hits.
I'm not a running quarterback in a sense. I can make things happen, but I'm not trying to run.
I'm not a running back.

Speaker 1 It's not my specialty. They sign me to throw the ball, make decisions, be a quarterback, not a runner.
Bro, I mean, you're just a jerk. I feel like I'm open to everything.
We got to win as a team.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't blame him for not actively going into the coach's office and being like, hey, let me run the ball more. I don't think any quarterback would necessarily want to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like the sentiment is not wrong. The way he delivers it, he's just a dickhead.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a dickhead. He's a dickhead.
Yeah, and he's just like, I don't want to run the ball. I'm a passer.
I don't want to run the ball. I'm not going to ask to run the ball more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they pay me to be quarterback.

Speaker 3 Getting hit hurts.

Speaker 3 I feel my body hurts when people, when big men hit me.

Speaker 1 Just say it, we'll do whatever to win the team. And then he went on to say,

Speaker 1 if I run and get hurt, it's a lose-lose for Kevin Stefansky because people will blame him for getting me hurt. It's like, actually...

Speaker 1 It's probably a win-win because people will be like, thank you for getting him hurt. And now we can go to the playoffs with our backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 Jameis Winson. Yeah.
But it's not good if he gets hit and he gets hurt and then he he has to go see therapist. True.
True. That's mad.
Maybe he's just protecting people.

Speaker 3 He's protecting people from himself.

Speaker 1 True, true. Either way, yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm buying in on Antonio Pierce,

Speaker 1 rallying up the team.

Speaker 3 I think, so they're the worst running team in football right now. The Raiders are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jamil White and Alexander Madison just can't get it going.

Speaker 3 And if I know Antonio Pierce, the way to

Speaker 3 address having the worst running team in football is to run the ball more. Yeah.
We just need to assert ourselves in the run game. lean on it, is what he's going to say.

Speaker 3 Which some coaches would say, if we're bad at running the football, let's play to our strengths. Antonio Pierce, I think he takes it as a personal affront to his physicality as a head coach.
Right.

Speaker 3 He's like, We're the worst. We're not going to be the worst after this week, so we're just going to run the ball down your throat as much as we can.

Speaker 3 Also, I do think that the Raiders' defensive line is going to, they're going to eat. Yeah.
They're going to eat because the Browns' offensive line has a lot of injuries on it.

Speaker 3 And I think Wyatt Teller is on IR.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So that's things are getting worse for the Browns offensive line.

Speaker 1 Very banged up. Speaking of banged up, Miles Garrett has an Achilles foot and thigh.
We all do.

Speaker 3 But his are hurt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Achilles foot and thigh.

Speaker 3 That's like the bone is connected to this bone here. Yeah.
It's just creeping its way up.

Speaker 1 That's just a lot of injuries right there, darling.

Speaker 3 Achilles, foot, thigh. His knee's okay.
Don't hog them all. Yeah.
His shin's fine. A lot of injuries.
His hamstrings are okay.

Speaker 1 A lot of injuries. All right.
Last two games. Chiefs at Chargers.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes has not been very good.

Speaker 3 Some would say that he has been good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 He won a Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And they haven't lost.

Speaker 1 That's true. But some may say he hasn't been playing very well.
Actually, Patrick Mahomes said that. He said,

Speaker 1 I haven't played very well this year.

Speaker 3 He hasn't played up to his own standard for himself.

Speaker 1 I have a fun stat for you. In the last eight regular season games, Patrick Mahomes is 11 touchdowns, 9 interception is thrown for 300 plus yards just one time.

Speaker 1 Which made me believe that there's a chance

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes might just have the most fuck you career of all time to everyone who watches football and win like 10 Super Bowls and just play average football every regular season and he can just clutch up whenever he wants and he's like, fuck you guys, like I'll just do this every January.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so additional info about that stretch where they've had, you said last eight regular season games? Yeah.

Speaker 3 They are five and three. Yeah, no, he's playing not bad.
No, I know.

Speaker 1 His defense has been playing great. He just has not been playing, he's not playing MVP Patrick Mahomes.
He did in the playoffs. He's not, he admitted it himself.

Speaker 3 Yeah, also, those long pass interference calls, he doesn't get yardage stats for those. Yeah.
So just a heads up.

Speaker 3 This is going to be interesting because Joe Alt

Speaker 3 probably not going to play.

Speaker 1 No, he's out, and so is Rashawn Slater.

Speaker 3 They're both dealing with something, as Harbaugh would say.

Speaker 1 And the Chargers have a bye next week, and if they start Justin Herbert, that's just like the biggest mistake ever.

Speaker 3 I don't think Herbert's going to start Herbert Harbor. I don't either.
Because his ankle is not going to get better.

Speaker 1 I don't either. But I also, when Justin Herbert comes in the locker room and he's like, coach, I want to go.

Speaker 3 Taylor Heineke, though.

Speaker 1 Taylor Heineke. Yeah.
Do you think Patrick Holmes has been playing well in the regular season?

Speaker 3 I think he's still, like, statistically, no.

Speaker 1 I think he's looked off this year thus far. He said it himself.

Speaker 3 But I think he's still been playing

Speaker 1 pretty good quarterback. Yeah, he's not been Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 He's not doing like the wow, holy shit. This guy is just stepping on our throats from start to finish.
He's making plays when he has to. He's been clutch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not, again, taking out playoffs because obviously that was a totally different run. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And this is just how he, maybe this is just how he does it.

Speaker 1 I just noticed it, and if Chiefs fans get mad at me, you get mad at your own quarterback because he said himself, I haven't played very well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He said, I haven't played it very well, and that's not even a stats thing.

Speaker 3 He's been not up to Patrick Mahomes' standard for sure. He hasn't looked like the crazy, holy shit, Patrick Mahomes in the regular season.

Speaker 1 But again,

Speaker 3 we do this every year where we're like, Patrick Mahomes looks off, the Chiefs' offense looks pretty cool. Yeah, of course.
Of course. And then next thing you know, they just won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 No, they're winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's my whole point: it's actually annoying that he can do this and get away with it.

Speaker 3 So they got Kareem Hunt back. Okay.
So it's not going to be the Carson Steele show. Okay.
Probably splitting time, I would guess, at running back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Kareem Hunt. When was the last time he was on the Chiefs? Was that 2018?

Speaker 1 I'll look it up.

Speaker 1 It was a long time ago.

Speaker 3 I think it was probably like 2018.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think that the Chiefs are going to take care of him.

Speaker 3 If Justin Herbert was playing, if they were healthy, I guess if they weren't the Chargers and had healthy players on offense, then I would say this might be a Jim Harbaugh welcome back to the NFL game.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But given what they're dealing with, I feel like it's the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'm locked step with you there.
And

Speaker 1 if the Chargers have aspirations to go into the playoffs and that kind of stuff, there's 0% chance to play Patrick Homes. Or sorry, Justin Herbert.
Yeah. Like you have a bye week.

Speaker 1 Okay, last up,

Speaker 1 Ravens Bills.

Speaker 1 I think kind of similar. I believe in the Bills.
I think the Bills are very good, but kind of similar to what I was saying about the Vikings. I think this might be the spot,

Speaker 1 the buy hot, or sell high, and take the Ravens.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Josh Allen has been, I think he's the MVP right now, right?

Speaker 1 I think he absolutely is the MVP through three weeks.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would say he's gotten off to the best start of anybody.

Speaker 3 The Ravens still feel like they're very hungry. Yeah.
Like even though

Speaker 3 they got their win in, so they're not 0-3.

Speaker 3 I feel like this is still a very good Ravens team. They lost by like half a foot to the Chiefs.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The Raiders' comeback was just crazy at the end of that game. Yep.
But the Ravens, I'm not selling the Ravens at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree with you. John Harbaugh,

Speaker 1 I love this about him. He's like, he feels like a real, I mean, the Harbaughs are just football coaches, but

Speaker 1 he went and started coaching the offensive line. I think last week before the Cowboys game, just being like, you know what? I'm going to show you how to do it.

Speaker 3 I love that. Give me this.

Speaker 1 Give me this tire iron. I'll change the tire.

Speaker 1 That kind of move with his own football team. Yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 3 I'll take care of it. So the Bills are giving up 118 rushing yards per game so far in 2024,

Speaker 3 even though two of their three wins have been blowouts, so the other team doesn't have to try to run the ball at all.

Speaker 3 The Ravens are very good at running the football. Might be a Tractor Cito game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 3 Because Tractor Cito looked good last week.

Speaker 1 He did. He did.
This is a fun Sunday night game.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's...

Speaker 3 There's one more game. Oh, yeah.
There's one more game, big cat. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Commanders, Cardinals. I'm an idiot.
My bad. That's okay.
I don't know why I have it written down.

Speaker 3 I had a beat on this game. This game's going to be fun.
I had a beat on this game a month and a half ago.

Speaker 1 Now everyone's going to be like, you just missed that on purpose. I literally have it written down.
No, that's okay.

Speaker 3 I put in a bet for some reason like a month and a half ago on the commanders to cover. I got a bad number, though.
It was plus three. Now I think it's three and a half.

Speaker 1 Wait, the commanders, you bet the commanders plus three a month and a half ago? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now it's plus three and a half. Why did you bet this game specifically a month and a half ago?

Speaker 3 Because I just had I had an idea about this game. Okay.
I was like, this feels like the commanders are going to be coming into form offensively.

Speaker 3 and the Cardinals, I still think that their defense is suspect. Got it.
So I love the idea. And plus, the Cliff Kingsbury factor.
Yes. So I was like, I'm going to bet this game.

Speaker 3 I'm going to bet this game in the back.

Speaker 1 And you somehow got a worst line

Speaker 3 early August. Let me look at it.

Speaker 1 The Commanders were awesome. I somehow got a worst line.
That's not a good sign.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, also, you forget that the Cardinals, people didn't know that the Cardinals were going to be this feisty.

Speaker 1 But the Cardinals just looked bad on Sunday. Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Let's see what's going on.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 How is that possible? I don't know. I don't know.
The commander's offense has literally been perfect for two games straight. They had an all-time performance on Monday Night Football, and you still.

Speaker 3 No, wait, I got the Commander's Money line, which was plus 114. What is it now for Commander's Money Line?

Speaker 1 Higher than that.

Speaker 3 You think it's higher?

Speaker 1 It has to be. They're 3.0.5.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 So I got a worse number on it.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 3 It's bad investing.

Speaker 1 How did that happen? I don't know.

Speaker 3 I think it's because the Cardinals' offense has looked pretty good, and the Commanders' defense has looked very, very good.

Speaker 1 It did not look good on Sunday. No, it didn't.
It looked bad. It looked bad.
It looked good. Also,

Speaker 1 short week.

Speaker 3 Nobody had any idea that it was going to be a short week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they didn't know the schedule.

Speaker 3 It is insane, right?

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 3 Like, the commanders have been playing as far off the charts in the positive direction for the last two weeks as they could possibly be doing. Right.

Speaker 3 And yeah, the Cardinals coming off a bad performance. Listen,

Speaker 3 I'm not the best gambler in the world.

Speaker 1 That's so funny.

Speaker 1 I mean, they've been perfect, the Commanders.

Speaker 1 I think there should be points galore in this game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it should be a funny.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for this game.

Speaker 1 This is.

Speaker 3 Tressway hasn't punted in two weeks.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 not to put pressure on you, PFT, not to put any pressure on you, but

Speaker 1 there's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 You are basically holding our happiness in the afternoon in your hands. Yes.

Speaker 1 Because Patriots' 49ers could get ugly. Yes.
Chiefs, Chargers could get ugly. Browns, Raiders is gross.
The Commanders and Cardinals have to give us a great game. I'm putting the

Speaker 3 happiness of the nation on my shoulders. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I just realized that those are terrible games otherwise.

Speaker 3 Listen, if there's one team that's fun to watch in the NFL, it's the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1 You have to deliver.

Speaker 1 Are you up for this challenge?

Speaker 3 I'm up for the challenge. All right.

Speaker 1 I love it. Again,

Speaker 3 we talked about how I have to build a winning culture for myself on Wednesday's show. I think part of that is

Speaker 3 taking on the responsibility of the entire nation. Yeah.
Like, I want the pressure. I wish that.
But pressure is a privilege.

Speaker 1 You know how you can slide the line when you're betting? I wish I could slide the money line and just take a worse line and get in your hole. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Take an awkward line right into my hole.

Speaker 1 Just give back money. Like, no, it's 145.
I'm going to take 114 with my boy. I think, listen,

Speaker 3 I'm obviously very confident. Some may say a little too confident in the commanders, some may say I overreact to one game because I've had nothing but absolute horseshit in my life for the last time.

Speaker 1 All those people be losers.

Speaker 3 They'd be losers and they'd be haters.

Speaker 3 I'm very confident in our offense. Our defense, I'm still very realistic about.
I think that our defense, we're not the worst in the NFL anymore,

Speaker 3 but we're definitely in that conversation for the worst in the NFL.

Speaker 3 And I think that if Dan Quinn can do anything in his first year, if he can make us to be like the 25th ranked defense or the 22nd ranked defense in the NFL, I think that would be a big win because we just don't have the dudes.

Speaker 3 We got rid of two of our pass rushers last year. We've got Emmanuel Forbes coming back, which you could, some would argue that's a negative that he's coming back.

Speaker 1 Yes, I would argue that. Yeah, although

Speaker 3 he might get a little mojo going if he gets to tackle Kyler because I think Kyler might weigh less than him. True.
So that's good. But our defense is bad.

Speaker 1 He's going to think he's big and strong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, I'm so strong right now.

Speaker 3 Our defense is bad, and I don't think that that's going to change too much. It might change a little bit.
That's what I'm hoping for over the course of the season. But we're going to have fun.

Speaker 3 But we're going to have fun. I am concerned about Austin Eckler being out because he's been awesome.
And one thing that he's been really good at, we've been waiting for, you know, like

Speaker 3 Corderelle Patterson

Speaker 3 was really good at returning kickoffs, right?

Speaker 3 In the new kickoff system, Austin Eckler has been the best at returning kickoffs. He's been, for some reason, he knows how to return the new dynamic kickoff, which, by the way, is a great name for it.

Speaker 3 Agreed. Because even if nothing happens, it's called the dynamic kickoffs.
Right.

Speaker 1 And it sounds cool.

Speaker 3 Austin Eckler has been the best in the NFL at that. He's been very consistent.

Speaker 3 Him being out with a concussion is going to be, I think, he's going to be felt not only on offense, but special teams is going to be a big factor, too.

Speaker 1 I like you guys in this game, and I like this game. Yeah.
I'm just.

Speaker 3 America waits. Sorry for injecting the Jaden Daniels quarterback conversation into a different game.
I've just been, my brain this week has been 95% thinking about Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 I'm actually, that's low.

Speaker 3 I've forgotten. Yeah, it probably is.
That's too low. I've probably forgotten about so much other stuff this week just because my brain is just going, Jaden.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jaden.
Jaden. I used to do that with MB

Speaker 1 when he first started playing. Don't say that.
Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 that's crazy. Yeah, he could say.

Speaker 1 MVP.

Speaker 1 You would love a Joe Ellen. Sumbag player that injures people's knees whenever he gets a chance.
What?

Speaker 3 If you were to tell me that Jaden would have the career of Joelle Embiid, so he'd win an MVP.

Speaker 3 He would

Speaker 3 never get to a conference championship game.

Speaker 1 Story's not over.

Speaker 1 Switch countries to get a gold medal. Yeah.
Front run.

Speaker 3 I don't think I'd take it. I'm not going to make that trade.
I think you would. I can do better.
I think you would. You can do better.
I can do better. You can definitely do better.

Speaker 3 Like I said, we're going to win a Super Bowl in the next one.

Speaker 1 He's considered a top five player in the the league, even though he's injured every single season. Yeah.
Oh, also, don't forget ducking your main competitor. That's true.
Your rival all the time.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I wouldn't want that. Wouldn't want the meniscuses.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 He doesn't do that. Does he have any meniscus? No, definitely not.
He needs to go to Germany.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to the picks.

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Speaker 1 Hank, PFT, myself, or is it

Speaker 1 lost last week? I also lost. Oh, Max is back in.
So you, me, PFT, and Max. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go Roshan.

Speaker 1 Roshan Johnson. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to score.

Speaker 3 What are the odds on that?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Probably decent-ish.
He did, he's getting, he's getting an extended look this week.

Speaker 3 I like that. And I love an extended look.

Speaker 1 What's your pick?

Speaker 3 PFT. I'm going to go with Brees Hall.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Max. Minus 145.
Not great. Not great odds, but Max.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bring us back.

Speaker 1 I think these odds will probably change by the time. Roshan is plus 190.
Okay. I think these odds will definitely change by the time game time starts.

Speaker 1 Dallas Goddard being plus 210 makes no sense.

Speaker 3 Okay. In what way?

Speaker 1 He's the only guy he's the only guy.

Speaker 1 No, you know what? It honestly makes me think that maybe one of Devontae Smith or A.J. Brown will play.
All right.

Speaker 1 I like Dallas Goddard. I like Dallas Goddard.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's win this. All right.
And then our picks.

Speaker 1 We have who's in first? I know I'm tied for last with memes. I'm tied for first.

Speaker 3 I think I might be tied for first.

Speaker 1 Nice. Nice, boys.
All right. Who goes first? I think it's me?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's me. Big hat goes first.
Hank, three and three. PFT, three and three.

Speaker 1 Max, two, three, and one. Me and Big Cat, two and four.
All right, I'll take the over in the Commanders Cardinals game.

Speaker 1 All right. I just,

Speaker 1 I want it. I want, I want that game to be fun so bad.
Come in the hole.

Speaker 3 Hole's wide open. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank.

Speaker 3 I'm like, goatsy.

Speaker 1 I will take

Speaker 1 the Packers minus three.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Not going with the Hungry Cat. Against the Vikings.

Speaker 1 There will be a hungry dog this week. The dogs have been hungry this season, but

Speaker 1 the hungriest dogs are the ones that don't seem obvious.

Speaker 3 How is the hungry cat parlay on Monday night?

Speaker 1 Terrible. That's why dogs, I'm a

Speaker 1 dog man. Never go away from the dogs.
Cats, gross. Yep.
Agreed. Agreed.
Oh, I just spilled. I don't know.
That's all right. I got a bunch of paper that I'm just going to put.
Look at this.

Speaker 3 Look at this. All right, memes.

Speaker 3 I'm going to take the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Minus three and a half. Oh,

Speaker 1 wow.

Speaker 3 That's a terrible line.

Speaker 1 It's against the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 3 Memes are such a dick.

Speaker 1 That was such a dick move, Memes.

Speaker 3 Gassing up your boy, Brees.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to be nice to the Jets.

Speaker 1 The way you were talking. Let him talk.
You hating me like the Cardinals

Speaker 1 more and more.

Speaker 3 You can suck my dick.

Speaker 1 Max texted me during the segment to go spend your time on the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 And Hank responded, yeah.

Speaker 3 All right, well, you guys can both suck my dick. You don't want to see me.

Speaker 1 I did not text anyone during that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you don't want to see me have success. It's sad.

Speaker 1 No, it's just like, you know, the way you're talking. Oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 3 there is a voice inside me that's telling me, PFT, chill the fuck out, but I'm completely disregarding that.

Speaker 3 I'm like that dude stocked in rush with a sub that's going to the Titanic, and you're hearing the sub start to creak, and you're like, fuck it, we're going to see this awesome shipwreck, and it's going to be sweet, and you're going to change the world.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm thinking right now. I'm ready to be heard again.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
Who's up? I am up. I'm going to take the Falcons minus two and a half.
Ooh, I like that pick. I like that pick.
All right, PFT, you got two? Okay. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 I love both these picks.

Speaker 3 Patriots, 49ers,

Speaker 3 under 40.5.

Speaker 1 Okay. Smart.

Speaker 3 And the Washington Commanders, plus 3.5. I like a money line, and I love them as a dog.
So I'm taking the points. And I'm getting that fresh new line on them.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Seriously,

Speaker 1 I wish I could take your line. I would.
Yeah. I would.

Speaker 1 All right. Max.

Speaker 1 I am going to take Rams, Bears under 41.5. Okay.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 3 I'm going to take Chiefs, Chargers under 40.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Browns

Speaker 3 Raiders

Speaker 1 over

Speaker 1 37. Whoa.

Speaker 1 Browns, Raiders over 37.

Speaker 3 Points are down.

Speaker 1 You took the Falcons, right, Max?

Speaker 1 I'll take the Ravens minus two and a half. Does someone take them? No.

Speaker 3 No. Nope.
Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 8 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 8 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this.
Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 8 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. It's Jamalio, Guatemaleo.
AJ, Jamalio, Guadalio. I stardom, America.
Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 The greatest country in the world, the place where real football exists. And we're going to fuck up the entire international section of the fucking world this weekend in golf love it

Speaker 1 I forgot that was even happening

Speaker 1 Wyndham Clark going

Speaker 1 Max Holm a good Italian boy Scotty Scheffler 15 15 30 in your fucking grill mix love it

Speaker 1 my sit him grill mix Arsenal fans Arsenal let me make something very clear no one gives a fuck if you tied or lost a game against fucking Man City this is America If you're getting mad that someone said you lost a game when you really tied and acting like a tie is a win, you're a fucking loser.

Speaker 3 Some would say it's not a tie, it's a draw or it's a result.

Speaker 1 In my opinion, if you fucking give up a goal and turn a win into a draw, that's a loss.

Speaker 1 So don't act like it's a draw or anything worse than a loss. It's a fucking loss.
Fuck you, Arsenal fans. Watch real football.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Man City, what is that? A place that Tom Brennan never wants to go to?

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
My sleeper biz and whiz coming up next on part of my day great interview yes good plug and jamalio thanks

Speaker 3 hey what's up jamalio hey what's up you dickheads this is mayor adams from new york city uh i'm starting mudang Mudang is starting, it's a pygmy hippopotamus we talked about.

Speaker 3 I'm not taking money from Thailand to say this.

Speaker 1 Great coat.

Speaker 3 I'm not making money from Thailand to say this.

Speaker 3 Just so you know, if your child has a mudang stuffed animal look underneath it there's a good chance that they're hiding crystal methamphetamines in their room beneath the mudang stuffed animals

Speaker 3 I'm sitting rats I'm sitting rats they're running this city and I think one wore a wire and now I'm in prison because of it so fuck rats rats are out and then my sleeper is Zach Wilson revenge game I believe in Zach Wilson coming back Denver is the New York City of Colorado I've always said this and Zach Wilson he will be captain I agree Uh, what's up, fuckers?

Speaker 1 My name is Matthew Sluka. Hey, Sluka.
Matthew Sluka, I'm starting myself because I'm not starting anymore. Oh, no.
I'm leaving UNLV. The Holy Cross transfer.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It'd be a real shame if you ended up in Harrisonburg.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sitting NIL because everyone lies to you. And that's why I'm not starting anymore.
Nobody really knows what the rules are. No one knows.

Speaker 1 There's a fucking corrupt place where money doesn't work out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's like, this is our thing. This is La Cosa Nostra.

Speaker 1 You don't tell you, keep your mouth shut if they don't pay you in my sleeping in the desert there's the new quarterback for you nlb hajj he looks good but i only saw one clip of it from uh bluttman he tweeted it out he said he's the real deal and i'll men

Speaker 1 do

Speaker 3 the desert to pay respects to the hajj yes exactly all right that was good uh fantasy fuckboys that story is uh new day it's nil yeah so he was allegedly told by an assistant that he was going to get a hundred grand yep and then he got there and he got uh what three $3,000 a week.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Is that it? And so now he's like, hey, you told me you were going to pay me and you're not paying me.
So I'm out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like the young doll case.

Speaker 3 What's that?

Speaker 1 It's like the young doll case. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I agree. Yeah.
I know exactly. That's exactly like that.
Good point. Yeah, that was a really good point.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Young Dolph. Remind, so me and Big Cat know, but memes is over there, like, oh, what's going on? So maybe you can tell me.

Speaker 1 The men who were arrested for the murder of young dolls were told they were going to get 100K.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 1 murdered him, got paid $300, and then $500.

Speaker 3 So they're arresting the guys that

Speaker 1 got arrested are ratting.

Speaker 1 And they're like, hey,

Speaker 3 you should arrest these guys because they actually didn't pay me as much as they said they were going to pay me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very sad. Fucked up.
But similar. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Young Dolph.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I understand from his perspective, if he got lied to and he has he's not going to go play in the NFL and he has one chance to get paid to play football, He's got to take advantage of it in red shirts.

Speaker 3 Our friend Trill Weathers had a good take on it and basically said that NIL is the modern-day drug deal gone bad. Yep.
If things don't happen according to plan, then what do you do?

Speaker 3 Who are you going to complain to about it? Yep. You just have to, he's using the only leverage that he has, which is, I have to quit after three weeks and then I can play another season.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And his offensive coordinator and head coach from Holy Cross at JMU.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Interesting.

Speaker 3 Maybe reunite him next year.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Alright, let's get to our interview with Biz and Wick. We drove 1,700 miles of old Highway 61, the whole country top to bottom, just to prove one thing.
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Find it in Kroger Isles this October. The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good.
Isn't that?

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our two very, very good friends. Probably our best podcast duo friends.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's

Speaker 3 Kelsey's Caller Daddy. Yeah, Caller Daddy.

Speaker 1 You guys will be my second favorite. Second, who's number one? I think Will and Taylor.
Oh,

Speaker 3 they've gotten to you. They broed you up.

Speaker 1 He's swagger jacket.

Speaker 1 They smoked them up.

Speaker 3 You can only do a podcast together and then all hit the showers. All right.
Nice episode, boys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, boys are corner and Pete. I do this to get you guys going.
Rub me down.

Speaker 1 All right, so it's Paul Bissonette. It's Ryan Whitney here with us.
I want it on the record. This is not

Speaker 1 our NHL preview. That's in January.
January. This is not our NHL preview.
Once football ends. We do not want to.
I don't even know if we should talk on it. Should we do our NHL recap?

Speaker 1 We could do do our NHL recap. We could do an NFL preview with you guys.
Oh, sick.

Speaker 1 I know a little bit about the NFL. Cincy's going to be unreal.
What do you know about the

Speaker 1 game? I know that

Speaker 1 Cincinnati Bengals are in trouble right now because what percentage of teams with that start the season even owning two

Speaker 1 of the last 41 I saw make the playoffs

Speaker 1 and it was them it was Cincy

Speaker 1 Ooh good karma good karma

Speaker 1 now they're owing three it's a good omen good something

Speaker 1 good adjective I can't think of it actually be bad karma because they've done it before.

Speaker 3 I think it's a good omen. Omen.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 They've got the culture to do it and stuff. So you're a vocabulary.

Speaker 1 They know how to do it.

Speaker 1 Relax Eminem. I do have one little hockey question.

Speaker 3 Especially Joe Burrow. He's got the frosted tips now.
Yeah, he does.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Little hockey question.
Not really any show preview because, again, we're not going to do it right now. What? Who? Can you guys explain the beef right now? What's the beef?

Speaker 1 You guys are beefing with a GM. Oh, what is happening?

Speaker 1 I'll let Wit handle that. I just see a series of quote tweets where it's like, I didn't say that.
I didn't say that. I backed that guy.
That's not a.

Speaker 1 I never retweeted anything about it. Quote tweets, I said.

Speaker 1 I didn't quote tweet it out. Maybe it was the chicken.
Biz might have said that was Squanto's dad being me.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 basically, what happened was Jeremy Swayman is this awesome goalie that the Boston Bruins have. And they had Linus Ullmark as well.
He won the Vesna two years ago.

Speaker 1 Swayman was kind of the backup, but they split time in the regular season. Allmark took over in the playoffs.
They lost in seven games to the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 1 So then going into this past year, they ended up kind of splitting it, but Swayman took over as more of the number one. Okay.
And then going into the playoffs, Swayman was unreal.

Speaker 1 They beat Toronto in seven, and then they lost to Florida in six. Florida goes on to win the Stanley Cup.
Without Swayman, Boston probably loses to Toronto. He was dominant.
Oh, that's your team, Biz.

Speaker 1 That's Biz's team. They can't win.
Like the big deal selects. Just wanted to make sure we say that.
So

Speaker 1 after this,

Speaker 1 Almark now has one year left on his deal. Swayman is a restricted free agent.
They tried to trade Allmark at the deadline because they realized Swayman was their guy.

Speaker 1 He denied a trade that they had lined up with to the LA Kings.

Speaker 1 So because he had the no-trade clause, where I think he had 10 teams picked, he could decide. LA is one of them.
I don't want to go there. Why wouldn't he want to go to LA? I don't get it.

Speaker 1 It will make less sense when you find out that he went to Ottawa. Oh, okay.
Okay. So he is European, so maybe that difference in time zone and he's got kids and the face.
Time zone to no trade.

Speaker 1 I like that. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 Like the time zone difference to Europe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 there's no other reason where L.A., like if he went there, like they could be a cup contender. And it's also L.A.
pretty nice place to live. And L.A.
needs a goalie.

Speaker 1 They can't get a goalie. So, all right, well.

Speaker 1 Bruin's like, we got to trade him. We got to trade him.
They end up realizing, or they knew beforehand, that his no-trade list, he could change the teams on it on a certain day. Say it's July 1st.

Speaker 1 I don't remember the exact day. So they have this trade lined up with Ottawa.
They're panicked. We think we got to get this done because if tomorrow comes, he may put Ottawa on the list.
Right.

Speaker 1 So they rush trade him to Ottawa. They don't get much of a return.
They got this goalie, Corpus Salo, who struggled for a while now. He's got upside.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He has been very good, but he had a real bad last two years.

Speaker 1 And Boston, they think their team defense, they think they could put any above-average above-average goaltender in net, and it's like system QB. That's kind of what Boston's thinking is.

Speaker 1 30, 49ers, yeah. Like Wallmark was doing it.
So was Swayman. They were basically doing it at the same time.

Speaker 1 Swayman has also never played more than 55 games, and I think he has 135 games in his career. Not durability.

Speaker 1 They were essentially the last two years sharing the net, but leaned towards more Swayman in the back half of the season because he was playing better.

Speaker 1 And in playoffs, his numbers speak for themselves. He was, I think, statistically the best goalie, right, Whit? Yeah,

Speaker 1 enough where, like, now Four Nations tournament, Canada, Russia of Canada, Sweden, Finland, U.S. will be facing off this February and best on best.

Speaker 1 People are like, I think Swayman might be USA's goalie. Okay.
Like, he's turned into a star. Some people say he hasn't done it long enough, whatever.

Speaker 1 Backstory a little bit. The summer prior, the Bruins took Swayman to arbitration.
Arbitration is where Biz makes the joke that all they do is rip on you.

Speaker 1 They say you got a small cough, you got bad breath,

Speaker 1 horrible teammates. Your wife says you're horrible.
That's exactly how arbitration works. They go in and they just bury you.

Speaker 1 Well, apparently they were so bad and so brutal to Swayman, he was pissed off. He was disgusted.
He left a bad taste in his mouth. Sounds like he might have a small cock then.

Speaker 1 Who knows what they said?

Speaker 3 Who is it that rips on you? Is it the GM?

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's the actual GM or their lawyer. I don't know who actually is doing the ripping, the actual talking.

Speaker 3 Because if it's like not a hockey guy, just like a lawyer that's doing it, that would piss me off, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, so you just know where it's coming from.
Yeah. Right? So it's Don Sweeney, the GM.

Speaker 1 So, now they decide to trade All Mark, they don't have a contract with Swayman yet, he's still restricted, but they have decided to trade Allmark before this contract with Swayman, maybe figuring that they could just get him on the cheap and that he might agree or whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm a bad guy.

Speaker 1 But Swayman's got the bad taste in his mouth from arbitration, and then he did an interview where he talked about he understands that he does he wants to set the goalie market, he doesn't want to fuck over other goalies in the NHL and take this low ball offer.

Speaker 1 So the stalemate has come to the point now. I get news from somebody that Swayman got a recent

Speaker 1 offer from the team after the team really didn't talk to him much during the summer, which is kind of standard in July, maybe July and June. So that leads us to today.

Speaker 1 I get word that they've given him an offer. four years times 6.2.
Apparently his offer was eight years times nine, which is definitely overreaching.

Speaker 1 but nine point two five which was the mcavoy contract that was their comparable got it so i like how you guys are tag teaming this yeah exactly

Speaker 1 hop in whenever you want

Speaker 1 so i find out that the offer is four years times six point two crazy low ball and that they that they haven't talked in like three weeks it's august camps in 10 days So I said it on the podcast.

Speaker 1 I was talking about what I'd heard, and we just kind of thought nothing of it. Biz was like, oh, shit, because I hadn't told him prior.
I was getting excited. Like, I was like, oh, we got this.

Speaker 1 You know, he's saying this

Speaker 1 on the pod. Like, fans are going to be like, oh, this is the most we've heard about this all summer.
Drama. So say I said this

Speaker 1 early September, if not late August, Don Sweeney, the GM of the Bruins, does a press conference the day before camp opens. That's pretty standard procedure for all the GMs.

Speaker 1 And in the middle of the press conference, he's being asked kind of over and over, what's up with Suieman? Camp starts tomorrow. You don't have your star goalie.

Speaker 1 You could tell he's frustrated, annoyed. I'm not going to address any of the rumors.
Actually, I'll address one.

Speaker 1 That pod, that spitting up on yourself podcast. You call it spitting up on yourself? Called it the spitting up on yourself podcast.

Speaker 1 They got him. They said, yeah, boom.
I'm like, oh, he's calling us names. He's talking about us.
This is amazing.

Speaker 1 He's like,

Speaker 1 Biz, everyone loves Biz. My son loves Biz.
I know he's an entertainer.

Speaker 1 He's talking about that. I didn't return Jeremy Swayman's calls for three weeks.
That's bullshit. So we're like, this is phenomenal.
We were at Chiclet's Cup when it broke.

Speaker 1 Spitting up on yourself podcast.

Speaker 1 The guy has no clue. And also,

Speaker 1 I had the contract offer, right? He didn't argue that.

Speaker 1 So whether it was two weeks, three weeks, or 10 days, there's been enough silence in August with your star goalie that it's seriously alarming to most Bruins. Right, yeah.

Speaker 3 And I would think that the Bruins, they're generally, I think, Biz, when you talk about the best regimes in hockey, would you consider them to be one of the best?

Speaker 1 Include this, Biz. Sorry, quickly.
They have, since Dawn Sweeney took over as GM, I think 10 years ago, the most points in the NHS. Yeah, I would say a very successful regime.

Speaker 1 They probably would have won maybe two more cups if they would have executed their drafts flawlessly or even like...

Speaker 1 Got a bounce here. They went to game seven.
Yeah, like 80 to 85% like strike rate. They had three first rounders one year, and I think they missed with every one, didn't they? One of them was DeBrusk.

Speaker 1 DeBrusk. So DeBrusk was solid, but then they, there was a couple that were right around those other picks where you're like, oh, buddy, that's the guy.
And I know it's hard to

Speaker 1 predict in the draft. So not full criticism to him, but overall replenishing, getting good free agents at the right price.
They've really moved on from the right people at the right time.

Speaker 1 And he deserves a lot of credit.

Speaker 3 He's a big fan of yours, too.

Speaker 1 I agree with Witt, where I don't think that they really thought this through, especially after having kind of pissed him off in last year's arbitration there was a reason they didn't have enough money to pay him last year this big contract they didn't have it this year now i think they have 8.6 million now left in cap space where

Speaker 1 i i the what i think viewers a slap in the face offer was the four years at 6.2 they should have offered him like give him security but maybe start off at like seven per right i think there's not a chicken dick's chance in hell he doesn't at least get eight times a year chicken dick chicken dick well here's another here's another chicken dicks are smaller in hell yeah another uh aspect of this is that his agent represent represented if not still represents william nielander who years back held out till like december 1st with the maple leafs in the same exact he's like the scot ball

Speaker 1 and he got what he wanted so i know you guys have a lot of football fans and other sports fans so um moving forward it's a gamble because they have that corpusalo who struggled the last couple years i heard he had a lot of upside

Speaker 1 lots of upside so all of a sudden you get him in in front of this structured team with good defense and good special teams.

Speaker 3 Anybody can be a good goalie for the Bruins.

Speaker 1 And he has a hot star. What do you mean by that, Peter?

Speaker 3 It's kind of like a system, kind of like Mike Shanna and Kyle Shana. Got it.
You get a running back or you get a quarterback in there, and then you just plug and play.

Speaker 1 You just plug and play.

Speaker 1 Let him go. Let him go.
With the end itself.

Speaker 1 They're doing that for a while. They're making good points.
You are. I was listening to your football analogy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because the way their defense is set up, you don't need a superstar. You don't need a superstar.

Speaker 1 No, but here's the thing.

Speaker 1 but if you go back to playoffs he was probably their best player overall yeah right he was their star so and they've been so kind of like they've done a good job arbitration we're gonna wow except for two out of three

Speaker 1 first round picks we're gonna go to arbitration we're gonna rip you apart uh and then all of a sudden you become the starter you lead us into playoffs and that system did let him down a bit based on the amount of shots they were giving up and he stood on his head against Florida.

Speaker 1 So it's like, oh, fuck. Oh, he proved it.
So then offer him. He's your guy.
And if he wasn't your guy, why the fuck did you trade the Vesna winner from two years ago before you had it?

Speaker 1 Because you wanted to get Corpus Salo and like a draft pick and maybe some prospect? Like, come on here. So manage your assets better.

Speaker 1 He fumbled the deal and he called him out on it and he said it was a slap in the face offer.

Speaker 1 The only discrepancy was what said, like, like basically like he didn't return Swayman's camps callback where worst case, there was radio silence for three weeks, unacceptable.

Speaker 1 And then boom, boom, boom. So this happens.
This is awesome for the pod, right? Like, whenever a chief

Speaker 1 makes it, yeah, it's like it's an original six franchise with an enormous question mark as camp begins over their star goalie. And the guy's talking about us.
Like, you think he's rattled? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, obviously, like,

Speaker 1 you don't want to, you don't ever want to be on the side of like saying something on the pod. It turns out it's not true with the size that our show is.
But

Speaker 1 what do I have?

Speaker 1 What do I have to get out of making that up? Right.

Speaker 3 So, what happens if they don't come to an agreement?

Speaker 1 So, so here's the kicker. So, I think December 1st, maybe a week or two discrepancy.
Um, if he does not sign by that time, he they forfeit the season. Like, he can't play at all.

Speaker 1 Oh, so it's so let's say Corpusalo all of a sudden he's 10 and 4 with

Speaker 1 a 9-10, 9-15

Speaker 1 save percentage and a goals against average, like a little above two. It's kind of like

Speaker 1 holy fuck. Swayman's going to start sweating because they're going to see, see everybody, we could put any guy in here.
Last fucking four goalies were successful playing in front of this team.

Speaker 3 Right, so Swayman might end up in a position where he is rooting against, in a way,

Speaker 3 he's rooting for the Bruins to win, but he's rooting for the Buins. Win 6'5.
6'5. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Now, on the flip side, probably more likely, Corpusalo's trash at the beginning. And they're losing.

Speaker 1 And the fan base is already loud about get him signed. Yeah, the pressure is fine.

Speaker 1 Then it's like, you could lose your job. Right.

Speaker 3 So I need you to tell me what side to be on.

Speaker 1 And I will be very vocal. Well, we're the player's side.
Okay. Always.
And we're the player's side.

Speaker 1 And also, it's not just the players because I told Biz, if Swayman was like, I want 9.5 and I'm not budging, I'd be like, all right, well, you're 135 games in league. No.

Speaker 1 I think if Boston said, here's eight years at 7.75. I was just going to say that number.
Wow.

Speaker 1 That point to me is like, shake it now. You got your length.
If Swayman's saying, no, I ain't taking less than 8.75,

Speaker 1 then I'm kind of in a situation where maybe I would be Don Sweeney and saying, well, wait wait it out because that's not the offer we're ever going to give you. And

Speaker 1 December 1st, tick, tick, tick, and we'll see who has the leverage by then. And it's basically, what do you call it when you line up to the back and you walk out and then you're a duel? It's a duel.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It is a duel.
I love that. So you guys are like, you get sources now, huh? He does.

Speaker 1 All the time. No, not

Speaker 1 a ton, but like. I feel like this happened a few times for you guys in the last

Speaker 1 two big ones.

Speaker 1 But you've broken stories that the rest of the NHL media is just not even like on well sometimes it happens by accident yeah and some of the times guys get like there's a lot of in we're not insiders by any means but insiders will get information and the source giving it to them be like you can't say anything though right so they know but they got to wait on it or something like that i don't if if whoever's telling me something's like yeah i don't care like just make sure you don't say my name and it's something that is like worthy talk about i'll talk about it especially if it's like to try to help a player because this guy in my mind deserves eight times eight right Right.

Speaker 1 Right. He's a CBS.
Yeah, that's just our opinion. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's good for you guys.

Speaker 3 I'm on your side.

Speaker 1 I also, I mean, it's cool that you guys have set it up where players can trust you. And that's the goal.
Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 And you guys can like, because I just love it whenever you guys stick it to traditional media. It's just funny.
It's so much fun to watch.

Speaker 1 And what's funny is I've had three texts I've showed him some things that I was asked not to share since then that are like, oh my God, people don't really like Don Tweeney that much.

Speaker 1 Right.

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Speaker 1 Do you guys get

Speaker 1 do you get like offended when people are like, oh, your podcast doesn't know shit? I would get offended. Do you get offended when people are like, you guys don't really know?

Speaker 1 Some people might not listen all the time. So when we're like tweeting out all these like hashtag rumor boys, like they might not know we're fucking around.

Speaker 1 We say stuff like you guys that just can take, it gets

Speaker 1 shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but sometimes we don't either.

Speaker 1 But we can laugh at ourselves.

Speaker 1 I don't really give a fuck. That's why you guys are really good.

Speaker 1 And we make like,

Speaker 1 I would say, some ridiculous claims where we're joking around a lot. So people be like, these idiots, these clowns.
It's like, well, yeah, we're trying to make people laugh.

Speaker 1 But when you get in the depths of like actually talking hockey, we both know what we're talking about. People disagree.

Speaker 1 But to say, like, they have no clue what they're talking about when they're talking about the game, if you want to say that, that's fine. But we both know that.
Right. We know we know the game.

Speaker 1 You know the game, yeah. A lot of people know way more about it than I do, but a lot of people listening don't.

Speaker 3 This also be a wild rumor to just pull out of your ass. Yes, it would.
Like the numbers are so

Speaker 1 many details, nothing. Right.
Nothing.

Speaker 1 I got another hockey question, not the NHL preview.

Speaker 1 Can Connery David win the big one?

Speaker 3 Good question.

Speaker 1 No doubt in my mind. There has to be a little doubt.
He's never won the big one. I know.

Speaker 1 I just don't have. Yeah, obviously.
I guess that's a good point by you.

Speaker 1 I'm very confident that this is the year. This is the year.
Yeah, and that I know I've said that previously, but they've lost to the last three Stanley Cup champs.

Speaker 1 They have a better team this year than they did last year where they got to game seven of the cup final. They have Leon Dreisitel signed up to a long-term extension.
McDavid will be next.

Speaker 1 Their top six are the best top six forwards in the league. They need help on the right side of the defense where they'll be able to because of the cap space they have, and they're in a great spot.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, winning a cup is so difficult, but I don't see him not getting one. And this year, I think, is the year.
Rumor boys. You said life or death, four years, like a four-year spot.
Got your head.

Speaker 1 I would say they, yeah, I would say they would win one cup. That would be my guess, life or death.
Okay, rumor boys.

Speaker 3 I heard that McDavid might not sign a long-term deal if they can't win the big one, and he wants to go play somewhere else.

Speaker 1 So many people have said that and continue to say that. The big change in that topic is that him and Dreisidel are best friends.
And Leon was up for an extension this year.

Speaker 1 He has one year left on his deal, but you can be re-signed July 1st with one year left in the contract. So everyone's like, oh, is Leon coming back? If he leaves, Connor's definitely leaving.

Speaker 1 He signed an eight-year deal at $14 million a year, highest paid player in the league. Okay.
And now that's... The biggest contract in his biggest contract.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was bigger than Ovechkin's right around there.

Speaker 1 So now the whole discussion is, in my opinion, and what Oilers fans are saying is they're so close. Leon's not re-signing if he doesn't know from Connor that he'll resign as well.
All right.

Speaker 1 So question about that, though. If he signed the biggest contract, Conor McDavid, I assume, is going to sign a bigger contract.
So he'll be per leader. So 14 per.
I bet you Connor's worth 16.

Speaker 1 Well, he's worth about 30. What happens to the Oilers' cap, though? Are they fucked?

Speaker 1 I think the cap is going to go up a significant amount each year to where that's why I said it might take year three or four because if they don't win it next year, all of a sudden you're going to have that 14 on the books.

Speaker 1 Luckily, you get one.

Speaker 1 We got bugs in the office. Luckily, you'd have one more year of Connor at a fair number.
But it'll get really difficult that following third year, I would say.

Speaker 1 If you got one guy making $16 and $14 and $30 million your cap and two players, oh, God forbid one of them goes down during a run. That's just like, that's catastrophic.

Speaker 3 I heard McDavid wanted to maybe go to LA, play for the Kings. Oh, where'd you hear that? Win some Stanley Cups there.
Then maybe finish his career out in New York. Where'd you hear that?

Speaker 1 That turtle there. I made it up right now.
Oh, Wayne?

Speaker 1 The Wayne Rows.

Speaker 3 I made it up right now, rumor boy.

Speaker 1 The Wayne Rows. There you go.

Speaker 3 So is there a possibility that he told Dry Seidel, like, hey, let them think that if they re-sign you, they are also going to keep me. Get as much money as you can because I'm your best friend.

Speaker 1 But he would have got as much money as he wanted anywhere. Anyway.
So if Leon played, if Leon played this year, he probably would have, yeah, if not 14, it would have been even more fun.

Speaker 1 Okay, so then I feel like Oilers fans should be feeling Oilers fans. Once Leon resigned, there was a giant sign of relief, not just for him, but the fact that Leonardo was going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 Now saying that, though, if let's say Connor all of a sudden had a change of heart, Leon has the power to probably just go to the organization if he doesn't want to be in Edmonton anymore and basically say, I'm not coming here.

Speaker 1 Find a a way to move me and get what you can back in return. I love how you say organization.

Speaker 1 So Canadian. I love it.
What? How you say organization. Organization.
I love it. Every time you say it that way, I love it.
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 Organization. Organization.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 We more say organization.

Speaker 1 I love how you say.

Speaker 1 I'm being serious. I love when you say it.
It kind of gets sounds so hockey official. Yeah.
It's just something about it. It's just like there, it's just more official when it's like the organization.

Speaker 1 All right. Say regime.
Regime.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's good, too. It's almost French, the way you say it.

Speaker 1 Regime. Biz, are you about to, when does your crazy schedule start?

Speaker 1 Not next week, the week after. And then you're in Atlanta? I go to, yeah, I fly there, I think on

Speaker 1 Tuesday the 8th. So that'll be the opening day of NHL.
And then Wednesday the 9th, we start our broadcast. And actually from there, I'll be going to Boston.

Speaker 1 We're going to do some stuff in Boston with Pink Whitney. I think we're going to get another sandbagger.
And then that following Tuesday, it's. We have to...
Can we do do a sandbagger?

Speaker 1 I would love to. With you two? We try to do one with you guys, but you guys are tough to track down, boys.
If I'm available,

Speaker 1 what's your handicap?

Speaker 1 A lot.

Speaker 3 I'm not very sure.

Speaker 1 You have to maybe do a scramble where I play with you and then you play with Wit or vice versa.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think if you did it honestly, I'd probably be like a 23.

Speaker 1 I think I'd be like a 45. Oh, no.
So we're not going to meet you. And then you will play PFT and Biz in a scramble.
Perfect.

Speaker 1 And then Hank will just play in front of us. And Hank will play 36 holes like the day before.
He's got to scout it out.

Speaker 1 He's got to scout it out. He's got to make sure.

Speaker 1 He's got a location scout it.

Speaker 3 So McDavid can win the big one.

Speaker 3 Can the Not a Big Deal Selects ever win the big one?

Speaker 1 Oh, tell everyone. This is our ball hockey team.

Speaker 1 First of all, tell me. McClellan was a guest of yours.
Tell me about the ball hockey.

Speaker 1 I want to hear more about the format.

Speaker 3 I want to hear about ball hockey because it looks insane.

Speaker 1 So it's very competitive and the arena is very small. The ones that they build at Chicklett's Cup because we collabed with this guy, Brad Jones, from Hockey Fest.

Speaker 1 So it just so happens the the ball hockey rinks they have are small and it's three on three

Speaker 1 so they're just the games get so physical and these guys take it so seriously and then of course because we put a team in a few professional teams started popping up and now I mean we get eight teams in the A division for ball hockey I want to expand to 16 teams but yeah we just we've done it five times this is our first ever one in Canada we just did we've never won our own ball hockey tournament and

Speaker 1 we bring in ringers ringers. Are you in the A-League? Yeah, they haven't even got to the finals.
Are you guys playing playing? Put it this way. No, he didn't even play this.

Speaker 1 I played professional hockey 12 years, played in the NHL for five.

Speaker 1 I can't keep up with these guys from a physical and running and just the amount of wear and tear over the course of playing three round robin games and then two more semis and then finals.

Speaker 1 I feel like I got in a car accident the next day. Yeah, there's real hits.

Speaker 1 At one point in this tournament, a guy got run over in the corner, and as he's down and people are like, penalty, another guy on that same team just was standing out like near the the back of the rink and just butt-ended the guy next to him which is just sticking the end of this your stick out of the top hand and just got him like in the in the kidney so it's vicious it's full-on physical like full-on checking cross-checking spearing and the amount of like running back and forth it's it's intense very intense like i got buddies well that leads to yans i got buddies who are like oh i put in a team i'm like this isn't street hockey this is like game seven of the cup final.

Speaker 1 Right. But Yans is so sick and tired of hearing what the big deal selects and them not winning that he's like, I'm done with you guys.
I'm putting a team in. Wait, so is he on the big deal?

Speaker 1 He's never played. Never played.
He's seen the social clips and he's just like, enough of you. The big deal selects.
The big deal. They can't even get out of the fucking semifinal.

Speaker 1 So Yans, you're listening to this right now. If you need assistant coaches, PFT and I are in for your team.
So he's going to assemble a team next year. We're in.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing a suit. Yeah, we're in.
So that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 We want to win your ball hockey tournament before you do. That's what we're going to do with Yance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we're assistant coaches of his team if he'll accept us. Okay, so that's why I want to expand to 16.
We're trying to get it done at the Calgary Stampede, which would be unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's the one where you dress like a cowboy and get drunk for 10 days? Yes, that one. That's about the only thing he's doing.

Speaker 1 We would basically go, we'll put them in our division, and it's loser goal home. So if they advance farther than us, then I'll never put the big deal selects.
You were

Speaker 1 in the the team. The team is done.

Speaker 3 We can fold the team.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes, we're in. Never to be spoken of against the team.

Speaker 3 See, Big Cat runs such a good system. It doesn't matter who's in goal for us.

Speaker 1 Are you saying it's like Brock Purdy?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's kind of like that, like Brock Purdy. Because our defense? Yeah, we're kind of taking that Brock Purdy thing to hockey, which has never been done before.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So you guys think if it's at the Calgary Stampede, you guys will be able to make it or just send players and Max and I can end it.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, Max. End of June?

Speaker 1 Okay, here's the deal.

Speaker 3 End of June could possibly work. No, here's the deal.

Speaker 1 Here's classes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Max is right. I'm going to step back a little.
I'm going to take a quick step back. You're going to be owner and funder.

Speaker 1 We're going to be owners and funders. So you have to cover

Speaker 1 these guys. You have to pay the ringers to fly in, and maybe they're going to ask for money.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 You guys are all in with flights and hotels for $10,000 each.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 Hank doesn't dunk.

Speaker 1 If Hank doesn't dunk, we're in. We'll just take that money and use it.

Speaker 3 We can reinvest it.

Speaker 1 And then the team to be named will be. Well, Yanz is involved, too.
He fucking made seven. Yans, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, Yans, we will contribute to the team. We just want our name on the cup when we win the whole thing, and the big deal selects are crying and folding.
So

Speaker 1 there's a villain called Nose Face Killer, and he already DM'd me. He didn't show up this year.
He bailed last minute like the rat he is.

Speaker 1 And he already DM'd me saying it's time for you to join the dark side in a sense of bringing him into the big deal selects. Not a chance, but I think Yans is going to pick up this nose.

Speaker 1 He was randomly Yans' stick boy at Cushing Academy when he was playing high school.

Speaker 1 The kid's horrible looking.

Speaker 1 Wait, but is he bad at hockey? No, he's unreal.

Speaker 1 He's in.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say right now, what's his name? Nose Face Killer. All right, he gets $1,000 out of my pocket to play.
First time.

Speaker 1 And it has nothing to do with the money we're going to put up otherwise. $1,000 if he's on the team.
I'll match. All right, $2,000 if he's on the team.

Speaker 1 First time we saw him in Detroit, first tournament we did, nose face in the casino. Oh, yeah.
He was like barking ass. I'm going to come here and win your ball.
Yeah, that's a man.

Speaker 1 That's how a man plays. Or like Rorenski from the Columbus Blue Jackets has a team with his buddies who all played hockey.
Like, you guys are going to get dusted.

Speaker 1 And he came out and he fucking dummied them in the round-robin game. And then Rorensky's team beefed up and brought in some fighter guy, and then they smoked him in the final.
No, okay.

Speaker 1 No, Noseface scored in overtime. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He scores in the clutch. And then a villain was born and on our team.

Speaker 1 He's got the clutch scene.

Speaker 3 that's the kind of guy that we want. So

Speaker 3 I want to not only have your team folded, I want you to sign over property, intellectual property of the Big Deal Selects to myself and Big Cat. So we take over ownership of your team.
Yes.

Speaker 3 And then we'll choose whether or not we want to play him again.

Speaker 1 And then vice versa. And then vice versa.

Speaker 3 So we can turn them into the worst team ever.

Speaker 1 No, we're going to take the big deal selects. We're going to move them to Utah.
That's what we're going to fucking do.

Speaker 1 You're a fucking advice to attorney, actually. You're a fucking asshole.

Speaker 1 The Utah Selects. We get complete ownership of the big deal selects.
Okay, so when you guys announce your team, I want the same thing in return.

Speaker 3 I want all ownership rights of our brand new team that we don't care about.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. Sure.
You're going to have to remind me when this happens. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You got a lot going on. We're all the way in there.
Yeah, that one is like, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 Yans,

Speaker 1 when he listens, he listened. He's a listener.
When he hears this, hit us off. You're getting a call.
Let us know. I'm interested to hear it.

Speaker 1 Whatever the number. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Listen, we're hands-off owners. We're just

Speaker 3 the money guys.

Speaker 3 Also, Yans is the money guy, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yans is also the money guy. And if MJ wants to contribute,

Speaker 1 they golf together. He can contribute as well.

Speaker 1 And you guys might be like, you guys are terrible owners. We've won a Premier La Crosse League championship.
So we are at least one-time championship. You've won something.
We have. Did you get rings?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we did. We lost them.

Speaker 3 They're around here somewhere. I swear to God, we lost them.

Speaker 1 They're definitely in the office.

Speaker 1 And then match guys. They're scrolling through it on the floor.
The problem is we put all the rings together and we're like, all right,

Speaker 1 like, remember the rings are here. And then we lost where they all were.
Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Then Max got involved, and the next year they finished second place. Yep.
How about that? A loser. Just a fact.
Loser.

Speaker 1 That's a silly guy. Yeah, I would actually also like to have.
Yeah, Max is free to be the

Speaker 1 assistant coach for the big deal selects. We want him on your team.
He's got a stick box. We have many coaches.
No, no, he could be the water boy. Sure.
All right, great.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Stick boy.

Speaker 1 I've won. I've won.
He could be stick boy for watching.

Speaker 3 Oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 They did deeper pictures.

Speaker 1 He's won. He's won.
That's true.

Speaker 3 I was listening to the most recent episode of Spit and Chicklets. I'm a fan.

Speaker 3 And there was a story that you guys kind of danced around that I thought maybe you'd like to share with us. Because I didn't know this.
But apparently, Biz, your sister is married to a guy named Paul.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Oh, no.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's just preface this with: I ran into Biz's sister at the

Speaker 1 ball hockey tournament.

Speaker 1 and she's so nice so friendly talkative and where she always brings up the story like can you not talk about the pauls and i was like yeah no problem i won't and then she's like and by the way you've never met here's my husband paul she married

Speaker 1 so biz was the one that first told this on on chiclets yeah and then uh i went over to my parents house for brunch one day and and she was you know she was staying there with the with paul the husband and you know brunch was ready hey can you go upstairs and get an ad And I knocked and it was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I opened the door, assuming like, yeah, like, like, can is come in, an international sign for come in.

Speaker 1 And I walk in and Paul is just plowing myself

Speaker 1 right before, right before French toast and eggs and bacon.

Speaker 1 Just going to the woodshed on that.

Speaker 1 Just giving her the reebok earrings. Good old Paul.
Paul's like a great guy. I left brunch.
You didn't go out there.

Speaker 1 I grabbed a quick strip of bacon and I was out of of there. I'd seen enough.
And then he just started DMing every single

Speaker 1 scramble.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you got to find your sister. Just

Speaker 1 find her name somewhere.

Speaker 1 And then just trick her into walking in. I met a girl, Natalie, once that I liked, but I just, I couldn't get over the hump.
I was like, let's stop this before it gets serious. And now

Speaker 1 Paul, her ex-Paul, is with that Natalie, so it all works out.

Speaker 1 What's even crazier is I went on a few dates this summer because one of my buddies had introduced me to a girl and I took a liking to her, but she had the same name as my father, which is Camille.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's. C-A-M-I-L-L-E.
So I was like, I told you, right? Yeah. So I was like, Jesus, it'd be a little weird if I bring home Camille to meet Camille and Paul's there with Natalie and

Speaker 1 Paul comes. And then just this orgy starts.

Speaker 1 It's just too much. I don't think I could.
You guys got to dress up.

Speaker 1 You know what's even crazier? Yeah. She dated another Paul when she was in high school.
She's got to type. What?

Speaker 1 So she's in love with you.

Speaker 1 Dude, your sister's in love with you.

Speaker 1 She just never wants this to be talked about. Your sister is in love with you.

Speaker 3 You said you couldn't date a girl named her name, but she has no problem whatsoever. Like, she does not have a problem.

Speaker 1 Well, he's trying to stop this.

Speaker 1 It's like the incest couple. It's like at one point, there's one kid.
It's like, we got to end this. Holy shit.
Your sister loves you a lot.

Speaker 1 More than loves.

Speaker 1 Big time love. Oh, my God.
You're an option. She's just finding Paul's.
Paul's left and right.

Speaker 3 You guys are very close.

Speaker 1 It's a deal breaker. She's swiping right on.
On everyone who's not able to provide your paper. No, no.
Like, when you put in what you want in the dating app, she's right. Only Paul.
Only Paul.

Speaker 1 She's named Paul.

Speaker 1 Paul's only.

Speaker 1 Oh, she's going to kill me. When she said

Speaker 1 she's not going to be a kid. You might divorce her now.
What are you going to do with that?

Speaker 1 She'll find another Paul.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? It's plenty of Paul's in the sea. Go down the local construction site.
Anyone named Paul?

Speaker 1 Oh, have you ever introduced her to Gaz? No. Okay.
Stay away. Stay away.
No, she doesn't like bald Paul's. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 He's not bald. He just wears a hat on.
Yeah, true. You don't know that.
True. Very true.
Paul. Paul's ripped.
Gaz is ripped now. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 It's on TRT. When does this come out? Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 Friday. Okay, yeah.
I'm going to be getting a text Saturday morning. Okay.

Speaker 1 No one's going to hear this. No.
No one listens to this. Nobody listens to this show.
Nobody listens to this show. All right.
Final thoughts. Rollback.

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Speaker 1 Like obsessed with watching this guy.

Speaker 1 It might be, if you don't watch college football, it might be Travis Hunter. Oh, yeah, Travis Silver.
Travis Hunter. Really? Dude.
There's a college player he was that good. He plays a ton of size.

Speaker 1 He plays wide receiver and cornerback. He played 144 snaps the other night.
For who? For Colorado. And so he went to Deion's first school that was, I believe, like an all-black school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jack HBCU. Number one recruit in the nation had never committed to an HBS

Speaker 1 CU. He went there to follow Deion, and then Deion went to Colorado and he followed him there.
And he still has to play one more year of college. No, I think he came out this year.

Speaker 1 This is second year of Colorado, so 30 years old. So he'll be

Speaker 1 not the first pick.

Speaker 1 He might not be the first pick because they don't wide receivers. I don't know what he's going to play because you can make the case he's wide receiver one and cornerback.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's the best cornerback by far in college football. And he's definitely top three or four wide receivers.

Speaker 1 So you, you know, I guess it's similar to Otani that like never again did people think like somebody would come in and be an elite pitcher and bat and be unreal. He's done that.

Speaker 1 Nobody's done consistently offense and defense in the NFL. Like maybe he'll be the guy that does it.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, yeah, I think the most remarkable part about it, I would assume that, what, 75% of people listening assume that he was, um, like, like, that the gambling stuff was, in fact, him. What?

Speaker 1 Travis Harner.

Speaker 1 Shohei. Travis Hunter's never done a thing wrong.

Speaker 3 I think, yeah, I don't think we know the full story yet.

Speaker 1 But, but we were saying it's probably fair to assume that, like, he might have known what was going on. I've actually been on the side of I've thought he was innocent.

Speaker 1 And the only reason I thought this was because I think people underrated the fact that

Speaker 1 he's in a foreign country, doesn't speak the language, and his only lifeline to the outside world was this interpreter. And so I think the interpreter, like, that's a prompt

Speaker 1 for a guy to take this much of him. Like, if he was, if he was a native English speaker,

Speaker 1 and he had a best friend, I'd be like, this is bullshit. Like, he knew what was going on.
I just think that that interpreter was able to keep a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 And I'm not even good at checking my finances and if you have that much money like is he ever looked at

Speaker 1 that that he was involved he's easily the goat because the fact that he could do what he's doing now with that on his conscience sweating out like a 17 parlay yeah mind numbing well how about this think about that if he was doing that and all that was breaking and you're going into this season and still with probably being under a microscope of people trying to dig that up and you do what he's doing now yeah the goat they would also tell you how good he was at baseball if if the mlb commissioner was actually like yeah we know it was you but we're not going to punish you.

Speaker 3 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 That if, even if this guy was caught in a casino stealing people's chips, like MLB, like, sweep this under the rug,

Speaker 1 the biggest signing ever, the biggest global superstar they've ever had. But we were, I was listening to a pod, a great hockey podcast we both listened to.
Elliot Friedman has a show, 32 Thoughts.

Speaker 1 He's the number one insider in the game. So it's way different than ours because, you know, it's legit.
Yeah, it's legit. You guys are insiders.

Speaker 1 So he was talking about Otani and what he accomplished this year, and him and his co-hosts were talking about what it would be in the NHL to do that, the 50 and 50.

Speaker 1 They said it's 100 goals, 100 assists. Holy shit.
Which has obviously never been done.

Speaker 3 Would it be like 100 goals and 100 saves?

Speaker 1 No, I think it would be... Well, no, he's not goal.

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 not pitching this.

Speaker 1 Well, I guess it would be 40 wins would probably be what a goalie's good at. 40 wins, 100 glutter assists.

Speaker 1 He is not pitching this year, which I might change it because he would have played less games.

Speaker 1 But this is the most incredible.

Speaker 1 I say, we're about to finish. We're almost done.

Speaker 1 We're about to finish. I'm going to say goodbye.
I'm going to say goodbye.

Speaker 1 Bye, guys. Love you.
All right. Love you, Paul Madley.

Speaker 1 I just watch these Dodgers games now. Like, he played, he had a, I think it was a walk-off against the Red Sox earlier.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's unbelievable. And then he's that big and that fast.

Speaker 1 It's insane watching this guy. That was a wild move by Biz.

Speaker 1 That's a Biz move. Biz gets up to before.
That's a Biz move. Paul Pissen.
I just did my last interview.

Speaker 1 Will be mid-interview on Zoom, and he just gets up and disappears. He got a host.
Got a host. Did you even ask the question? I asked the last question, then

Speaker 1 he knew that it was about to end.

Speaker 3 He thought it was not a great question, so he was the question.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What was the question?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but now we have a disaster brewing. Go ahead.
Come on, you gotta eat.

Speaker 3 Yeah, join the couch. I gotta eat.
Sit down on the couch, Stu.

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels was so good.

Speaker 3 Yes, he's awesome, isn't he?

Speaker 1 There wasn't even a word to describe how actual. All right, Wit.

Speaker 3 Talk in the mics. Talk to the mic.
All right, Wit.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 We love you, Wit.

Speaker 1 We were doing an interview. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Am I disrupting?

Speaker 1 I am. No, we're going to give him.
I was just saying we're doing an interview, but you know. Am I interrupting? No, no.

Speaker 1 Of course not.

Speaker 3 Pitts already got up to piss. You're good.

Speaker 1 You didn't text me back.

Speaker 3 Sorry, I was busy, Stu. I was busy.
I was recording a bunch of stuff all day today.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 3 I knew that Stu was up to something today because I got like five texts from telling me how many joints he had. And I was busy.
I could not smoke. Oh, you brought the bag.

Speaker 3 I could not smoke all day today. So that's why.

Speaker 1 Stu is very high right now. Yeah, very high.
Give some to Hank. Okay.

Speaker 1 Some to you. It's legal.
It's 100% legal. So I bought it legally.
It's legal.

Speaker 1 Some to Hank, some to you. Couple to Megan.
I'm not giving. I don't need any.
Okay. I would love Stu, Stu, Stu asked the other day to take my kids to the zoo

Speaker 1 and the aquarium. Yeah, and I was like, Stu, they go to school.

Speaker 1 It was just like, you know something?

Speaker 1 Do you want a couple of joints?

Speaker 1 They go to school.

Speaker 1 Although, Stuart, no, if you want. All right, you guys.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you, Stu Feiner.
Yeah. See you, Stu.
That was great.

Speaker 1 Anything significant you want to?

Speaker 1 No, no, that was it. We loved having you on.
All right. Thank you, Stu.
Thanks, Stu. That was Stu Feiner.
Oh, thanks, Stu. And he's handing him a bunch of weed.
All right, and he's giving me a kiss.

Speaker 1 Don't spill the thing. All right.

Speaker 1 I love you forever. I love you forever.
All right.

Speaker 3 Don't be out as he wishes.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Spiders. Back.
No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It's a war. Oh, no.
And I'm losing. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Wait, are they... But it's about to be...
That's the problem. Oh, they're trying to get inside.

Speaker 1 Yes. They can feel the winter, the winds changing.
And there's

Speaker 1 my issue is that I can clear them off of my balcony, but there's windows on the side. I probably already said this last time we talked about this, but they I can't get to all of them.

Speaker 1 So there's ones that are alive that I think when I take out all their friends, they come in and try and get revenge. Oh, I got a spider bite earlier this week.
You did?

Speaker 1 You probably swallowed a couple. Definitely.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Have you thought about getting one of those long vacuum cleaners on a stick? Like the long tube one so you can reach around the corner.

Speaker 1 What's the um, what's the imagine reaching around that corner? Yeah, yeah. What's the what's the stat? Like, everyone swallows at least eight spiders in there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was used to be in, like, our school agendas or whatever. Yeah.
That was like one of those, like, remember, you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 3 It was in your school agendas.

Speaker 1 You know that you swallow those eight spiders in the middle of a year. No, school, every, I like, remember they'd give you an agenda where you're supposed to like keep your schedule and shit? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, and it had little trivia facts. It had little fun facts every month.

Speaker 3 That's not true.

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't remember this, but I'm going to take your words.

Speaker 1 I promise you, and I promise you, you guys are old, but I promise you there's thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of AWS who know know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 There was 12 fun facts or whatever in each one per month, and that was always one.

Speaker 3 But this is not true.

Speaker 1 You swallow 13 spiders a year. It's not true.

Speaker 3 No, not a year.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 There's no chance it's true.

Speaker 1 It's in the agenda, dude. I'm pretty sure that this is.
All right, what does it say?

Speaker 1 The reality, however, is quite different. We swallow no spiders at all.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You used to think you spider.

Speaker 3 How many spiders?

Speaker 1 13. I mean, but no, it was eight.
The belief that we swallow an average of eight spiders in our sleep every year has become so ingrained in popular culture.

Speaker 1 It's not a lot of agendas. It is a fact.

Speaker 1 I also just always assumed when they said an average, like a human swallows an average of eight spiders a year, it was just like one dude in Australia eating thousands of spiders.

Speaker 3 That actually could bring it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I don't think that spiders are so dumb that they would crawl into your mouth.

Speaker 1 No, they're smart as fuck. Yeah, so they're not going to be a good idea.

Speaker 1 I think that's what I'm saying. I get concerned about revenge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're coming for you.

Speaker 1 It's a problem.

Speaker 3 It is a problem. You should just move.

Speaker 1 Depends. We'll see how this winter goes.
Winter's coming. Winter's coming.
All right, PFT.

Speaker 3 I mean, I don't really have a fire fest this week. It's more of a FIRE fest because I've had a very good week.
Oh, nice. I've had an excellent week this week.

Speaker 3 And so I guess my fire fest is, I just think about Jaden all the time. Nice.
Just all the time. I was thinking about him earlier tonight.
I was watching the game.

Speaker 3 I was like, man, football is so unwatchable, watchable when Jaden's not playing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's definitely not going to come back to bite me. No.
Like, I'm not setting myself for any sort of disappointment down the line by saying this. But yeah, I've had a pretty good week.

Speaker 3 I guess the exception would be: I had to get some stitches out.

Speaker 1 And this was. Oh, where?

Speaker 3 This was last Friday. I had to get some stitches out in Austin.

Speaker 1 Oh, the stitches were in Austin?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I got the stitches out in Austin.

Speaker 1 Nice. No, okay.

Speaker 3 So, what happened was when I had the procedure, I had a, it was like a small line across the very back of my head, and they had to stitch it up together. So I had stitches.

Speaker 3 I went into the doctor's office. My doctor in Boston that gave me the new hair stuff, or excuse me, moved my own hair around on my head.

Speaker 3 Told me, yeah, you can go into any like minute clinic, any urgent care, and just ask them, take stitches out. They all know how to take stitches out.

Speaker 3 So I go in there and the doctor sits me down and she looks at the back of my head and she goes, oh my God.

Speaker 3 And I was like, excuse me? And she's like, oh, no, it's nothing. I just haven't seen stitches like this before.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 And then she starts going around backing my head and she goes, oh my God. Again, I'm like, what is that? And she was like, oh, no, I'm just confused.
And she kept saying, oh, my God.

Speaker 3 And I kept thinking, like, is this infected? Do I have like spiders crawling out of it, Hank? Like, the oh, my God reactions were just insane. And I was starting to get worried.

Speaker 3 And I was thinking, is she actually a doctor? Because she doesn't sound like she's a doctor. So I ended up calling my doctor in Boston.
And I was like, hey, she's a little confused.

Speaker 3 She's wondering if maybe these are just absorbable stitches so she doesn't have to take them out. And the guy's like, absolutely not.
you need to take them out right now. Oh shit.

Speaker 3 And he's trying to like walk her through it. He's like, no, it's just one stitch that goes back and forth a few times and then there's a knot at each end.

Speaker 3 And she was like, I don't understand what you're saying. She had no idea what my doctor was talking about.
I didn't see a doctor. And she kept trying.

Speaker 3 She was having me reach around the back of my head, holding a flashlight on the back of my head. And then she would get mad at me when I, when the flashlight drifted a little bit.

Speaker 1 I was like, I don't know. I can't see the back of my own head.

Speaker 3 So we do this for another 20 minutes. Then she asked me to call my doctor again because she's still confused.
And she's like, yeah, I don't know how to take these out.

Speaker 3 And eventually my doctor had to be like, hey, PFT, are you still in the room right now? And I'm like, yeah, I'm on speaker.

Speaker 3 He's like, I want to say this as diplomatically and professionally as possible.

Speaker 3 You might want to consider a different clinician to have this procedure done.

Speaker 3 So after about 45 minutes of her just like slicing into the back of my head, I had to stop her and say, okay, I think you're uncomfortable with this.

Speaker 3 And that's making me uncomfortable, so I'm going to go. Then she goes out, grabs a different doctor to come in.
She's like, wait here, just one second.

Speaker 3 The doctor looks at it and he's like, yeah, these are just stitches. And she's like, can you take them out? He's like, well, I'm with a patient right now, so I can't really take 10 minutes out.

Speaker 3 And she's like, maybe on your lunch break, you can do it. And this doctor's uncomfortable, too.
And he's like, yeah, I guess I can do it on my lunch break.

Speaker 3 And she was like, maybe I could watch so I could learn. And he's like, yeah, maybe.
So she's like, okay, just come back in like 45 minutes and we'll take him out. And I was like, okay, bye.

Speaker 3 I go to the front desk and I said, hey, just tell her I'm not coming back. I'm leaving.
And I just got the fuck out of there. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 3 I ended up actually getting it done here in Chicago once I got back. And it took about seven minutes.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 So I don't think the person, I think it was a catch-me-if-you can situation where in her wildest dreams, she's pretending to be an urgent care doctor.

Speaker 1 Sitches can't be that difficult.

Speaker 3 They're not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're not.

Speaker 3 But for a while, they were. So just listen to yourself.
If you think, maybe I shouldn't be in this situation.

Speaker 3 But then again, she had like all these tools in the back of my head, and I didn't want to just stand up and leave. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a hell of a situation.

Speaker 3 But besides that, doing good.

Speaker 1 I got Jaden. Yeah, you got Jaden.
I got the stitches right out of your head. Yep.

Speaker 3 All right, I was actually a seam head for a while. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest is quick. It's Derek Rose retired today, and that made me feel old and sad again for Derrick Rose's career.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that made me feel old.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I saw that, and I thought that Derrick Rose had already retired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of people did.

Speaker 3 Because I think it was one of those rumors that the dunk sintle would tweet out once every six months like Derrick Rose has retired. Yeah.
So I got the exposure of that.

Speaker 3 So in the back of my head, I thought, like, maybe Derrick Rose has already been retired.

Speaker 3 But yeah, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 It's not right. It's not right what happened to Derek Rose.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's an all-time what-if.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was like he was so, so electric before he got injured and then injured again and then injured again. But yeah, it's a what-if and it's also a damn, we're getting old.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, I'm sure you appreciate that.

Speaker 1 That we're getting old. I don't appreciate that.
That means I'm getting old.

Speaker 1 True. That's how time works.
Memes, you got a fire fest for us?

Speaker 3 My fire fest is if everybody hates the art we just put out in the interview, and I ordered some Jets gear to my house on Long Island.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's tough. Wait, if someone doesn't want to pay our editor enough money, what?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, memes is lowballing our editor. Do you see this? No, I saw it, yeah.
What?

Speaker 3 There was a job, a job list

Speaker 3 for part of my take, assistant editor, entry-level. And I think the pay was like $65,000 a year.

Speaker 1 Wait, people were roasting us? Well, one time. Some guy tried to roast us.
He posted the listing, which is just like a regular entry-level editor position.

Speaker 1 Uh, which, by the way, like, I think I got paid no money and then $20,000 for like three years. And he goes, like, 60K for one of the for a billion-dollar company, as if how much money Barcelon makes

Speaker 1 how much an editor should make.

Speaker 3 He says Barcelona's worth $1.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And then there was a lot of people being like, ah, this looks like actually

Speaker 1 pretty good job listing. Yeah, what Barcelona's not worth

Speaker 1 a dollar. Like, how about

Speaker 1 every single corporation in the the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 3 even his friends online were like, that's not a bad salary for an entry-level spot. And also

Speaker 3 the value of a company. Somebody made the comparison to like, you know, how much McDonald's pays their employees?

Speaker 1 Yeah, or yeah, like

Speaker 1 Walmart.

Speaker 1 An Usher at Jerry's World, Dallas Cowboys employee. Yeah.
They get paid what? Yeah. A fucking

Speaker 1 team worth $10 billion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I think that's, from what I saw, that's a pretty fair

Speaker 3 fair pay, right, for that position.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 if you do a good job, you get paid more.

Speaker 3 What's meme saying? It's kind of how it works.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure. Pug?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's fair. It's fair, Pug.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, you can't disagree with Pug. This fucking guy, Brandon.
Fuck you, dude. You're going to go against Pug? Get out of here, dude.

Speaker 1 Get out of here. Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 Roast them.

Speaker 3 Love it, Pug.

Speaker 1 All right, numbers.

Speaker 1 Max is at another wedding.

Speaker 1 PFT and memes, have you ever gotten this? No.

Speaker 3 I didn't. Numbers.
I have Jaden. Five.
Wednesday. I've never gotten it.

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 1 Let's go one.

Speaker 1 D-Rose.

Speaker 1 Let's go 20.

Speaker 1 99. Pug.

Speaker 3 I have a feeling it's going to be 99.

Speaker 3 This feels like a Pug moment.

Speaker 1 seventy-seven

Speaker 1 seventy-seven. Love you guys.