Khalil Mack, Head Strength Coach Ben Herbert, Mt Rushmore Of Movie Quotes + Same Faces New Places In The NFL

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a two-for-for-the-people, two great interviews.

Speaker 1 We have Khalil Mack from the Los Angeles Chargers, and then we have Ben Herbert, the strength and conditioning coach for the Chargers, who is probably one of the most intense guests we've ever had on.

Speaker 1 I'm in love with him because he makes me want to be a better person.

Speaker 4 He made us hard.

Speaker 1 He made us hard. He's the famous.

Speaker 1 We played the clip when he was introduced.

Speaker 1 His goal is to make the Chargers harder to break.

Speaker 1 So awesome interview with both of them. We're going to do new

Speaker 1 faces, new places. Same faces, new places.

Speaker 4 I always mix that up. Guys who are on different teams this year.

Speaker 4 We're resetting for the start of the season.

Speaker 1 Yes, we're going to get ourselves set for that.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk a little trades and injuries, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 we are going to do Fire Fest, and we have the Mount Rushmore of movie quotes.

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And PFT, we've got injuries. It sucks.
We've got injuries. This is the worst time of training camp.
J.J.

Speaker 1 McCarthy is out for the season. Jordan Addison may be out for a while.

Speaker 4 It's tough. It's really tough.

Speaker 4 I'm upset for the Vikings fans out there. You had a lot to look forward to, especially after week one of the preseason.
Everything looked great.

Speaker 4 I guess the good news is that Sam Darnold no longer has mononucleosis.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Seven-year bump.

Speaker 1 I posed this question.

Speaker 1 I got ratioed to hell. I posed this question when J.J.
McCarthy was announced out for the year.

Speaker 1 Am I crazy for thinking Sam Darnold might have a good year?

Speaker 1 Now, that I posed the question before Jordan Addison got hurt, but my whole thinking was he's going to have the best receivers he's ever had.

Speaker 1 Seventh-year bump. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No mono.

Speaker 1 Kevin O'Connell, good coach, played quarterback.

Speaker 4 Kevin O'Connell got good stuff out of Josh Dobbs last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Sam Don.

Speaker 4 He's a quarterback-friendly coach.

Speaker 1 Sam Darnold, just remember, like, Sam Darnold did, he did play the quarterback position with the the greatest handicap of all time, and that's Adam Gates. Adam Gase, yeah.

Speaker 4 So yes, he had to get the stink of the Jets off him. He's been around smart football guys for the last year.
Yeah, he went to San Francisco, San Francisco, did some rehab there.

Speaker 4 His grandfather's name is Dick Hammer. Yep.
So you got that going for you.

Speaker 4 That's the ultimate Thor for all the Vikings fans out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this might be crazy to me.

Speaker 1 This might be the dumbest thing I've thought, but I kind of feel like, and I don't want the Vikings to be good, but I kind of feel like Sam Darnold might surprise some people this year.

Speaker 4 And I think his head is going to look normal size in that helmet.

Speaker 1 Yes. In the purple, it's going to be good.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It could be worse. I think they're doing the right thing.
You want to do it. Oh, it definitely could be worse.

Speaker 4 You want to do the, yeah, you could have absolutely no plan at backup quarterback, which at times it looked like you had no plan at backup last year. Yes.

Speaker 4 I think he's probably. For Josh Dobbs? Yeah, Josh Dobbs was good for like a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 Whenever he changed the team, he was good for that first couple weeks.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just bring him in. Just bring him in for one week.

Speaker 4 He'll probably be on the same face as new places.

Speaker 1 Who, Josh Jobs? Yeah. Is he in the league?

Speaker 4 I think he's in the league. Yeah, I think he's on a roster.

Speaker 1 We're going to do that in a second.

Speaker 4 He's got to be on a roster. But yeah, it could be worse.
It's the right call, I think, to do the long-term meniscus surgery, a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's absolutely right.

Speaker 4 You don't want to rush him back from this at all.

Speaker 1 They're not in win-now mode. It makes no sense to rush him back.
A team that I guess is in win-now mode is the Atlanta Falcons who traded for Matthew Judon. They're all in.
They're all in.

Speaker 1 Hank is not here right now. He's going to be here for the Mount Rushmore.
He is, though. We're taping this part of the show, obviously, on Thursday.
We taped the Mount Rushmore on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Hank is, if you're listening to this, it's already happened. He's led the New England Patriots out on the field via lighting

Speaker 1 the lighthouse via ringing a bell.

Speaker 4 He rang a bell. It's like a Rube Goldberg machine.
Yeah. You ring the bell, and then the bell lights the light, or maybe the light's already lit.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's ringing the bell to symbolize, to commemorate the lighting of the light in the lighthouse, and then the team's going to run out onto the field, and Hank's going to have a little shit eating grit on his face.

Speaker 4 I'm happy for him. He loves that fucking lighthouse.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great.

Speaker 4 But the last, so the last time we talked to Hank,

Speaker 1 he said that Matthew Judon was having,

Speaker 1 was it friendly? And

Speaker 1 what were the two words?

Speaker 4 Maybe like friendly. Friendly and good? Friendly, good, normal conversations.

Speaker 1 Conversations with head coach Mayo.

Speaker 1 It turns out, and he also took a side swipe at memes and was like, Patriots are classy organization. We'll figure this out.
The Jets won't.

Speaker 1 And then maybe like two hours later, Matthew Judon got traded.

Speaker 4 Yeah, do we know what they got in return for it?

Speaker 1 Third-round pick.

Speaker 4 Third-round pick.

Speaker 1 Fleeced. Well, I mean, Matthew Judon is a very good player.
He's also 32, and he needs a new contract.

Speaker 1 So that would be the part where it's, you know, the third-round pick, because it always happens whenever a player that you know gets traded and you're like, that's it? Third-round pick.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, well, yeah, he needs a brand new contract.

Speaker 4 He's going to get paid. He's going to get paid.

Speaker 1 And you're right. Although the Falcons, I heard, like, there isn't a plan to give him a new contract.

Speaker 4 To extend him right away?

Speaker 1 They actually did the opposite of the Jets. The Falcons might be the classiest organization of the three.
They did not trade for him with any pretenses of a new contract.

Speaker 4 So he's going to go there, but what if he just wants a new contract? Yeah, I'm sure he does want a new contract.

Speaker 1 That's why he wanted to trade.

Speaker 4 But he'd rather play out his contract with a team that's not going to give him a new contract and is up front about it than with the Patriots.

Speaker 4 They don't want to be on the Patriots. Yeah, so it's weird.

Speaker 4 Also, it goes against everything I've ever known about the Atlanta Falcons, which is they've been committed for as long as I can remember to not having any players that I can name on their defense.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And now they've got a couple really good players on their defense.
Yeah. And I don't know.
The Falcons. Maybe I was a year ahead on the Falcons.

Speaker 4 Maybe this is the year that the Falcons tie it all together.

Speaker 1 I think it's just going to be a lot of teams in the NFC South that are going to be 9-8,

Speaker 1 10-7, and then the Panthers. Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 It's going to go exactly like last year, where it's going to be the three-way between the Falcons, the Saints, and the Bucs.

Speaker 1 And it's like whoever just ends up winning a couple of these head-to-heads will go to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 I'm going to look at these odds real quick. See what the odds are for the Falcons to win that division, because I like them this year.

Speaker 1 They're probably not that high just because there's no dominant team. Yeah.
I have already said that the Saints might not be as bad as people think.

Speaker 1 But, memes, I did want to ask you real quick, because you got the side swipe.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling today knowing that you were at least partially vindicated even though Hassan Reddick is still holding out and the Jets are

Speaker 1 still not figuring this situation out? Hank being immediately wrong was delicious. Delicious.
Delicious.

Speaker 1 Good word.

Speaker 4 Good word. Does it take some of the sting out of your Jets?

Speaker 1 It takes some of the sting out. I still want them to resolve it

Speaker 1 quickly. Then it's a massive W for me.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 if they get Hassan Reddick signed within the next 48 hours, then you get a huge dub.

Speaker 4 But if it goes into the season, it's...

Speaker 1 Or if he doesn't play and you trade him for something less than what you traded him for, then you're back to a loss. Yeah, that's a major loss because Hank was technically right.

Speaker 1 They did figure it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did figure out Matthew Judon pretty quickly.

Speaker 4 It was productive and good. Normal, good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it was good and happy or something. Good and happy because

Speaker 1 friendly and

Speaker 1 it's friendly and something.

Speaker 4 Now, memes, what if you traded Hassan Reddick to the Patriots?

Speaker 1 Oh, that'd be so bad. Gotcha.
But what if Hassan Reddick, then, memes, what if you traded him to the Patriots and Hassan Reddick said, I'm not going to play for the Patriots?

Speaker 1 Then that'd be a massive W.

Speaker 4 Okay, but then what if the Eagles traded the Patriots to get Hassan Reddick back and they got more than what you paid for him?

Speaker 1 That'd be a loss. But the Eagles season's already over because apparently Jalen Hurts is throwing too many touchdown passes and not enough interceptions in training camp.
Is that right, Max?

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah. Nick Wright is my Florio.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. A new Florio has presented himself.

Speaker 4 So the problem is that

Speaker 4 he's too good because I know they always say you learn more from mistakes than you do from success. So

Speaker 4 he's not throwing enough interceptions to learn anything?

Speaker 9 Yes, they said that.

Speaker 4 That's such a good take.

Speaker 1 He's completing number one. He's 180% of his passes.

Speaker 9 Number one, he just kept saying, he's like, I know this is going to get aggregated. I know this is going to get.
So he's doing it. You're aggregating.

Speaker 1 That's right. That's not what Nick sounds like, but yeah.

Speaker 9 He's doing it to get clicks, and he's admitting that he's doing it to get clicks.

Speaker 1 Because he knows it sounds

Speaker 1 like it's not.

Speaker 9 But he sounds ridiculous. He sounds ridiculous saying that he's not throwing enough.
He's not watching any of the camp.

Speaker 1 How do you know that? Nick Reid, he's a smart guy. He watches the tape.

Speaker 9 There is no tape.

Speaker 4 What do you mean there's no tape?

Speaker 1 You don't think he's got tape?

Speaker 9 How many many times have we gone to camp and the team?

Speaker 1 There's tape being filmed.

Speaker 9 But you're not, but like someone that's for the team.

Speaker 4 But maybe he has access. Maybe he has access.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have access.

Speaker 4 Nick Wright has all 22 access.

Speaker 9 He's just saying that he's not taking enough risks.

Speaker 9 How the fuck is he supposed to know that?

Speaker 1 It is a great tape. He's like, he's not taking enough risks.

Speaker 9 You got to throw some picks in training camps.

Speaker 1 It's such a good take.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure I had this exact same take, ironically, about Nick Foles when he threw two interceptions. I was like, this season actually actually sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you gotta, I mean, you gotta, I do, you don't have to do that. But he wants guys taking risks.

Speaker 1 Like, Rogers, at the end of his career with the Packers, there was the argument that he was obsessed with not throwing interceptions, that he would not take some risks.

Speaker 9 But even then, you're watching it.

Speaker 1 Like, if he was watching every play, but you don't know that he wasn't watching.

Speaker 9 There's no way he's watching it.

Speaker 4 What about a pick on third down if you throw it deep down the field? Same as a punt. That's a good pick.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Let's talk about the positive.

Speaker 1 Word out of the Eagles camp is: Big Dom is just running the whole show now. Rocks.
He's the best.

Speaker 4 He's the coach of the team. Yeah.

Speaker 9 No, no.

Speaker 9 We had a problem last year of someone being the guy that everyone can look up to. We got that guy.
It's Big Dom.

Speaker 4 So, Max, I love Big Dom. Don't get me wrong.
Love the guy. Is it.

Speaker 9 I don't like the way you go. I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 4 Be careful. Well, I'm asking a question.

Speaker 1 Okay, but be careful how you ask it. I'm asking.

Speaker 4 This is what we do to learn.

Speaker 1 Be careful how you ask it.

Speaker 4 It's called the Socratic method. Okay.

Speaker 8 Just be careful.

Speaker 9 And now you're saying things that I don't know.

Speaker 4 Is it a good thing?

Speaker 1 Don't confuse me.

Speaker 4 It's all Greek to Max. Max, is it a good thing?

Speaker 1 Greeks are just Italians who don't pay taxes.

Speaker 1 Max. Fact.

Speaker 4 Is it a good thing? Would it be a good thing for your head of security to be coaching your football team?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 9 If the head of security is Big Don.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's all I want to know. That's all I want to know.
Did you guys see, by the way,

Speaker 1 when Fantasy Fuck Boys comes back, we had the lineup for the Staten Island Little League World Series team that's in Williamsport. I'll just give you a couple of the names.
It's great. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just Fantasy Fuck Boys Central.

Speaker 1 Batting first is Vin

Speaker 1 Ruggiero. Yeah.
How do you say that?

Speaker 4 Ruggiero.

Speaker 1 Ruggiero.

Speaker 1 Second is Stephen Grippo.

Speaker 1 Peter Giacchio

Speaker 1 is the catcher.

Speaker 1 We also have on the team Dean Scarangello. Okay.
Joe Arachi, Dylan

Speaker 1 Degata,

Speaker 1 and Dylan the Cat. Jason

Speaker 1 Rocchio.

Speaker 1 I can't speak Italian. Max,

Speaker 1 give me some Italian help here. R-O-C-C-S-S-S-A-C-A-C-A-C-A-I have to look at the I.O.

Speaker 4 Rochio? Rochio? Rochio? Yeah, D. Roach.

Speaker 1 Jason Rochio.

Speaker 4 J. Roach.
No,

Speaker 9 you're saying it wrong.

Speaker 1 Dylan DeGatta is my favorite.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like that. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 It's a good name. But yeah, there's a lot.
A lot of vowels. Be careful.

Speaker 4 I'm going to talk about the Little League World Series and saying, fuck boys.

Speaker 4 Just saying.

Speaker 1 Your brain went there.

Speaker 1 Not anyone else's.

Speaker 1 That's fucked up.

Speaker 1 Your brain is there.

Speaker 9 Little League World Series. People don't talk about that enough.

Speaker 6 I think we talk about it.

Speaker 4 Max, you were in it.

Speaker 9 Some AWL found the game that I played in and put the whole thing on YouTube.

Speaker 4 I love that. You know what I love about the Little League World Series? I love the fact that it's for the kids, and they get the best umpires, and they do it the right way at Williamsport.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You don't see that a lot these days. Agreed.
And it's something that. And if you're in wholesome, we can all get behind.

Speaker 1 If you're someone who just spends all day online yelling about the kids and the umpires, maybe get a life. Yeah.
Get a life.

Speaker 4 Although, the one thing I never like about it, though, is the one coach that knows that he's doing something to go viral.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He knows that he's Mike. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they lose and then he brings them all in. He's like, listen, look around.
You guys are going to love that. You guys are going to think back to this moment for the rest of your lives.

Speaker 1 Like, no, they lost. They're out.
No, I actually love that Rico just gets so fired up about Little League World Series.

Speaker 4 And the umpires, yeah. And the system.

Speaker 1 And the system.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1 Before we do this game, what else do we have? Anything else?

Speaker 4 We're talking about quarterbacks being too good in practice. Jaden Daniels threw five touchdowns in a row.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good, but maybe too good.

Speaker 4 It might be too good. Yeah.
It might be too good. He needs to learn how to throw better end zone interceptions.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We had, oh, there was one other thing. Oh, Jameis Mike Dup was incredible.

Speaker 4 Jameis Mike'd Up is really good. I just love him.
The entire thing. Just him going up to his teammates and being like, I'm in your establishment now.
Yeah. That was great.
The U.S.

Speaker 4 men's national team, we got our guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Pocatino. Yep.
His name's Pocatino. He's Argentinian.
He coached for Chelsea, coached for Tottenham. I think he got them to the Champions League final or some shit like that.

Speaker 1 Surely he's won a lot.

Speaker 4 He's won. Yeah, he's won some.
Where? I think he came in second place in the EPL.

Speaker 1 He did win the French league with PSG. Oh, the Farmers League.

Speaker 1 He beat a bunch of Uber Eats delivery guys.

Speaker 4 With Neymar and Pape and Messi. Yeah.
Okay, so he has one.

Speaker 4 I assume that since he was Pulisic's coach when he was at Chelsea, I'm assuming that they asked Pulisic what he thought about the coach, and then Pulisic said he's a good guy.

Speaker 4 Then they brought him in.

Speaker 1 Which might not be the best thing because we got to make our guys tougher. Well, apparently.
He's beat up all the time.

Speaker 4 I read up a little bit about this guy, and he coaches using the theory of Energia Universal,

Speaker 4 which means universal energy. Love it.
Max, did you get that?

Speaker 4 Universal energy, which is basically he coaches on vibes. He thinks that every player either has good vibes or bad vibes.

Speaker 1 Hank would not last on this team.

Speaker 4 He would not. And he just, he has like this theory that it's all connected.
It's all one song. I like that.
So it's a very... It's a very different coach than what we had in the past.

Speaker 1 People were telling me last night that we're going to score goals and we're going to give up goals, and that's all I care about. If I can bet the over while watching the U.S.

Speaker 1 men's national team and win, I don't give a fuck what ends up happening. We could lose every game if there's five goals.

Speaker 4 He plays, I think his formation is some like 4, 2, 3,

Speaker 4 3. I don't know.
That probably doesn't add up to 12 or 2.11, but I know that he plays a very aggressive style.

Speaker 1 So let me ask you this question, PFT. Yeah.
As our four most soccer, international soccer guy, would you say this was a home run higher?

Speaker 4 In soccer terms?

Speaker 1 I feel like people were very upset or very excited. Like, we got him.
This is incredible. We never thought we'd get a a guy like this.

Speaker 4 In soccer terms, it's a grand slam.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's a grand slam.

Speaker 4 It's a touchdown. So,

Speaker 1 I just wanted on the record:

Speaker 1 if this is a grand slam touchdown of a hire

Speaker 1 and we don't get good at soccer,

Speaker 1 could you make the argument our players are not good at soccer? Yes. Okay.
Yeah, now I'm excited.

Speaker 4 That's what I've been saying this entire time.

Speaker 1 I'm excited.

Speaker 4 This entire time. And there have been times in the past when we've had shitty players.

Speaker 4 I will give you that 100%.

Speaker 4 There have been times when we've had decent players. Now we we have what should be the best players we've ever had.

Speaker 1 Which is not a huge...

Speaker 1 That doesn't mean they're good.

Speaker 4 They're good.

Speaker 1 Relatively speaking, I'm saying like in the world,

Speaker 1 they're still not good.

Speaker 4 Well, they play on the best teams in the world.

Speaker 1 Meaningful minutes?

Speaker 4 Many of them. Many of them.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm trying to say. Not a lot of them.

Speaker 4 There's like four or five guys that play significant minutes on really good teams. There's a lot of guys that are on good teams that don't play at all.

Speaker 4 And then there's a couple other other guys that are still up and coming. But what I'm saying is, yes, in the past, you've been 100% right.
U.S. soccer has never been

Speaker 4 anywhere close to the top talent in the world. Now, I wouldn't say that they're in the top five talent in the world.
I'd probably say top 10 in

Speaker 1 the talented roster.

Speaker 4 And now that that shithead Greg is out of the picture and he's not too busy getting in pissing matches with his players' dads to put forth

Speaker 4 a good lineup,

Speaker 4 I think it's safe to say that this will be a big disappointment if we don't.

Speaker 4 I think disappointment would be losing in the knockout round. I think that we need to win at least one knockout round game.
I think we should get to the quarterfinals.

Speaker 1 So I'm just excited for the test now because we'll find out if this is a home run Grand Slam higher.

Speaker 1 We can't blame the home run Grand Slam higher.

Speaker 4 We can't blame it on the coach.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yeah, he's going on.
I'm excited for it.

Speaker 4 Universal energy.

Speaker 1 I hope we're good. I want us to be good.
It would be awesome if we're good.

Speaker 4 I mean, the World Cup would be...

Speaker 1 But But if we're bad, I'm going to be like, yeah, we're never going to be good.

Speaker 4 And I think

Speaker 4 that would be valid at that point. If we're bad, then it's like...
Then we're bad. Then it's like, why isn't Jalen Brown on this team?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is exciting because I've always wanted to just get to the bottom of it. Like, should we actually invest money and time and resources as sports fans, or are we just going to be bad?

Speaker 1 We'll find out. If we're good, then it's going to be like, fuck yes, let's go win a World Cup.

Speaker 4 I'm also interested to see

Speaker 4 what this guy does in terms of, because when you're the U.S. soccer coach, you're in charge of a lot of shit, not just coaching the team on the field.

Speaker 4 You have responsibility in developing the youth program.

Speaker 4 And in the past, he's worked with the government of different cities and parts of different countries to get them to buy into his youth development program.

Speaker 4 So I don't know if this guy's going to go across the United States and be like, hey, we need to work on our youth development. I'm going to meet with the mayor of like Chicago.

Speaker 4 I don't know if I'm going to meet with the governor of Texas or whatever. But I'm curious to see, because I think he's going to be coaching for the most part stationed overseas in Europe.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Which is fine. Listen, we've tried it the other way before.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we just

Speaker 1 here, he just needs to be here.

Speaker 4 He needs to be here. He's in all of them.

Speaker 1 So, wait, is he keeping another job or is this his job now?

Speaker 4 I think this is his job.

Speaker 1 Oh, love that.

Speaker 4 I don't think he's like a step coach. Good for him.
Yeah, so Pocatino.

Speaker 1 Smart move. The bar is low.

Speaker 4 A European guy from Argentina.

Speaker 1 Hmm. That's interesting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How'd he get down there? Don't know. Okay.

Speaker 1 Operation Paperclip.

Speaker 1 Let's.

Speaker 1 Anything else? Are the Phillies dead, Max?

Speaker 9 They won last night. Okay.

Speaker 1 So they're back. I just know they've been struggling.

Speaker 9 They were struggling, and then Schwarber had a grand slam to save the season.

Speaker 1 The NBA schedule came out.

Speaker 4 I saw that. Yeah, it opens up with Knicks and Celtics.

Speaker 1 It's talking basketball.

Speaker 4 That's about it. What offseason?

Speaker 1 No offseason for us.

Speaker 9 Sixers play the Celtics on Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 4 that's such a gift.

Speaker 9 That was the number one thing that I saw.

Speaker 1 I saw the Bulls have two nationally televised games total. I think one of them is against the Hornets on a Friday night at like 10 p.m.

Speaker 4 That's sick. Is that the NBA Cup, though?

Speaker 1 It might be. I don't know.
No, that's in mid-November. Mid-November, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, and then also, if there's any Notre Dame swimmers listening to this right now, we'll hire you. Yeah.
They started an illegal gambling ring. I read about that.

Speaker 4 What's the problem here?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I just know that like us having having Barstow having its own swimming team that we just challenge other people, like when we get in beefs online, just be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's finish this in the pool.

Speaker 4 Your fastest.

Speaker 1 Can we just have like a Harlem Globetrotters-esque team and just bring them out there?

Speaker 4 Against guys that can't really swim?

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Washington Generals of Swimming.

Speaker 1 Let's finish this like men. Let's finish it in the pool.

Speaker 4 There would be a lot of deaths if that was an actual format. I read about it.
They had like an internal pool, for lack of a better term, like an internal gambling ring. Okay, I'm confused.

Speaker 4 Where they would bet on, where they would bet on themselves and bet like amongst themselves who's going to finish better.

Speaker 1 That's just fun.

Speaker 4 That's just dudes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's the problem? That's crazy. If you do that, that means there's a lot of teams that would have that issue.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because that's.

Speaker 4 It's classic Notre Dame, though, to be like, we uncovered it. Just wanted to raise our hand and say we found a dicey gambling operation amongst our swimming team.
So we're going to shut it down. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Thank us later. Get in front of this.
This is Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Get in in front of this. All right.
Let's do.

Speaker 1 Let's get ourselves ready for some football. Before we do this,

Speaker 1 we're going to give a couple picks. So with DraftKings, you can bet on all the preseason stuff now.

Speaker 1 We're thinking about prop picks, so we're going to throw a couple out there. Which one are you going to pick?

Speaker 4 I'm going to do rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Okay, and Max, which one are you going to do? I'm going to do passing touchdowns.

Speaker 9 I had receiver. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, Max, you want to start?

Speaker 1 Who's your most receiving yards?

Speaker 9 I'm trying to get the odds. On DraftKings.
I'm trying to get the odds for you.

Speaker 1 All right, then I'll start.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go passing touchdowns. I know that some people might say, oh, sophomore slump.

Speaker 1 C.J. Stroud plus 950.

Speaker 4 I like it.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 Stephon Diggs, Nico Hollins,

Speaker 1 Tank Dell.

Speaker 1 That offense is going to be explosive. I actually saw a picture.
Someone, it was like a meme, and it was

Speaker 1 CJ Stroud with those three guys standing on the sidelines, like, who's going to stop them?

Speaker 1 And I wanted, I didn't, but I wanted to just circle Stefan Diggs and be like, that's who. He's the guy.
When he doesn't get the ball, that's exactly who. But you're going to have to keep him happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's plus 950.

Speaker 1 Mahomes and Dak Prescott are the two favorites. So a little value, plus 950.
I think CJ Stroud's going to fucking rock this year. I like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a good pick. Good value.

Speaker 1 Okay. What do you have?

Speaker 4 So for mine, I'm going to go with rushing touchdown leader Brees Hall.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 Brees Hall. I just lost the odds.
I think it's plus 1,800, plus 1,900. Whoa.
Something like that. And my reasoning behind it is Aaron Rodgers should play more than five snaps this year.
Right, Memes?

Speaker 4 Should. Or else Memes is strapping a what to himself?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 What are you going to do, Memes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to blow myself up. Where?

Speaker 1 NFL headquarters. Oh.

Speaker 4 Patrick Beverly, not expected to sign with the NFL. But I like Brees Hall because the first year with Nathaniel Hackett that Aaron Jones had in Green Bay, I think he had 16 rushing touchdowns.
Nice.

Speaker 4 And I feel like

Speaker 4 Nathaniel Hackett's going to get him the ball inside the five.

Speaker 4 Do they have a touchdown vulture?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Braylon Allen. Oh, no, Braylon Allen is on.
Yeah, Braylon Allen. Yeah, Braylon Allen.

Speaker 4 Braylon Allen is actually.

Speaker 1 He's 19 years old, and he's actually exactly the old use of the goal.

Speaker 4 He actually looked really good.

Speaker 4 Fuck, he looked really good against Andrews. I don't care.
I like Brees Hall. Brees Hall is a good player.
And Izzy's not knocking on the door this year.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts at 15-1 isn't crazy. Now, Saquon alone.
No, no, he's not that.

Speaker 4 Big cat, he is. Saquon, and also he throws too many touchdowns now.

Speaker 1 It's true. He won't be rushing.
That's a good point.

Speaker 4 And the tush push. Who knows what's going to happen with no Kelsey?

Speaker 6 That's very true.

Speaker 9 What do you have, Max? It's funny that. It's funny that PFT went Brees Hall because I'm going Garrett Wilson at 14-1.

Speaker 1 All right, we're high on the Jets.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Garrett Wilson has had a really good. He hasn't been a big touchdown guy, but he's never really had a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 I think that that's good value.

Speaker 9 He could blow up this year.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll change mine to Aaron Rodgers, 16 to 1. Okay,

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, 16 to 1.

Speaker 4 That's actually not a bad pick, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that pick.

Speaker 4 He's going to feast against the Patriots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're going to do the perfect amount of

Speaker 1 handing the ball off in the goal line

Speaker 1 and throwing it. Jets might score a billion touchdowns.

Speaker 4 Has that ever happened where three different guys on the same team have led the league in touchdowns at their positions?

Speaker 9 Well, memes gets mad that we think that the Jets suck, so now he's going to get mad that we think that they're good.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's like, We're jinxing you, memes.

Speaker 4 Are we being Florios right now, memes?

Speaker 1 I don't know what this bit is. It's actually not a bad thing.
What's the bid? Uh, Aaron Rodgers has led the league in touchdowns twice in his career, so

Speaker 1 he can do it. He's proven he can do it.
Memes, we can't we can't exist with you, memes.

Speaker 4 When we hate the Jets, it's like, oh, you guys suck. When we love the Jets, you're like, this sucks.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're all in on the Jets. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
What's the shoot ball odds?

Speaker 4 No one ever went broke betting on the Jets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Ready, Huey? Give us some.
So we don't.

Speaker 1 Listen, this is the trust tree. We're doing this because we want to be ready for football season.
We hope that people will not judge us for our lack of knowledge. It's still the preseason.

Speaker 1 If we were doing this week two, you could make fun of us. Because we're doing this right now, you can't.
We're just doing this together. Everyone's going to learn something.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 1 Here we go, Huey. All right.

Speaker 1 Receiver. Yes.
Gabe Davis. Oh, I know this one.
Jags. Boom.
Oh, yeah. I did not know that.
I did know that one. Well, his previous team.
Because the Jags have like all the...

Speaker 1 The Jags have basically built an entire receiving core out of the upside guys that will also have zero catch games.

Speaker 9 Should we do a little game, see if we know?

Speaker 9 What do you mean? You just guessed, like, you knew that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So Big Cat gets a game.

Speaker 8 Well, we don't have to, like.

Speaker 4 No, it's a team game. Let's see.

Speaker 1 Let's try to get more than 75% as a team.

Speaker 4 We're one for one. Okay.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say? His former team?

Speaker 1 Well, his former team has collected this quarterback.

Speaker 4 Has collected a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean... Oh, Ben DiNucci.
It was Mitch for this game. It's Mitch.

Speaker 4 And Ben DiNucci.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, I don't know if he knows Ben DiNucci, but Mitch is back on the beach.
Yeah, the Cowboys guy. Gucci DiNucci.

Speaker 1 That's a layup for me. I know where Mitch is at all times.

Speaker 4 We're actually three for two right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bobby Wagner.

Speaker 4 He's a commander.

Speaker 1 Yes, he is. There we go.

Speaker 4 Had a great season last year, too.

Speaker 1 Sterling Shepard.

Speaker 4 Sterling Shepard.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. Sterling Shepard was on the Giants for a long time.
And now he is on.

Speaker 1 I want to say Raiders, but that might be because the Darren Waller

Speaker 1 trade from the Raiders. Oh, it's the Giants.

Speaker 4 Maybe the Chargers? The Chargers needed a wider.

Speaker 1 It was close in the mascot, not in just a moment. Oh, Buccaneers.
Okay, okay. No, that doesn't count as getting one.

Speaker 1 Isn't it funny, though, that I was like, oh, Sterling Shepard, he's a giant. Now he must be a Raider because Darren Waller was a Raider and then he was a giant.
Yep. No, nothing to do with each other.

Speaker 4 They just like trading with each other. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Quarterback Tyler Huntley.

Speaker 4 Ooh, Huntley. Where's he at? He's not in Baltimore anymore.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Nope. Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 This is a good one. Green Bay Packer.
Nope. Hold on.

Speaker 1 It's a fun one. It's a fun one.
It's a fun one.

Speaker 8 Texans.

Speaker 1 No. No, that's Davis Mills.
My guy.

Speaker 1 Tyler Huntley is on the Seahawks. No.
Damn. All right, give it to us.
The Browns. Oh,

Speaker 4 wait, that's fun?

Speaker 1 But Jameis.

Speaker 1 It's fun. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 How the hell is Joe Flacco not on a team? He is. He is.
What team is he? Colts. Oh, I knew that.
Well, there goes that one. Okay, so we got that one, too.
Love it.

Speaker 1 So what are we?

Speaker 4 Now Now we're six to five.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
We missed Sterling Shepard. Okay.

Speaker 1 Quarterback Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we talked about this.

Speaker 4 Josh Dobbs is on.

Speaker 1 Did he stay? No, he could have stayed with the Cardinals, right?

Speaker 4 Well, he went from the Cardinals to the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Is he a Steeler? He wouldn't be a Spanish. No, no, no.
You're thinking of where he started. Panther?

Speaker 1 Titans. No.
Hold on. Hold on.
I don't know this, but I'm just going to say hold on until I just say a name.

Speaker 4 What team could you envision Josh Dobbs starting one game for this year?

Speaker 1 This one, I'm saying Seahawks. No.
Damn. Close.
49ers.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, he's going to be so good when he backs.

Speaker 1 Memes, put it in the calendar. Bet on Josh Dobbs when he plays because Brock Purdy gets a concussion.

Speaker 1 Not that I'm rooting for Brock Purdy getting a concussion, but it will happen, and then we'll bet on Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 4 All right, six for six. Okay.

Speaker 1 Odell Beckham.

Speaker 4 Odell Beckham is a dolphin.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
What about Michael Gallup? Oh. Oh.

Speaker 1 Where did Gallup? Michael Gallup is very underrated. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is Michael Gallup a titan? No. Is Michael Gallup a cult? No.

Speaker 4 That'd be fun.

Speaker 1 Is Michael Gallup a Jaguar? No. Bronco? No.
Michael Gallup awes. Seahawks.
Nope. Is Michael Gallup a Ram?

Speaker 1 Close? A charger? No.

Speaker 1 Is Michael close?

Speaker 1 Cardinal. Nope.
Raider. Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay. Retired.
Hell yeah. This is some good.

Speaker 1 He's retired. Wait,

Speaker 1 okay. He signed with the Raiders and then retired.

Speaker 9 Nice.

Speaker 1 Got it. All right.

Speaker 4 I bet you, though, most people listening are going through the same thing we are. Yes.

Speaker 4 You need a reset before football season starts. You do.
You don't want to get caught week one and be like, oh, shit, he's on that team. Yeah.
You can't say that out loud week one.

Speaker 4 You have to know your shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a couple guys you should know and you do know, but yeah, you can't get all of these. Okay.

Speaker 1 Tight end Hayden Hurst.

Speaker 1 Hayden Hurst, where did he? He was on the Patriots.

Speaker 4 No, you're thinking of the. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm thinking of what's his name? The other one. Hunter Henry.
Hunter Henry. Yeah.
That makes sense. Oh, I was thinking of that guy, too.
Oh,

Speaker 1 is it Hunter Henry? No, this is Aiden Hurst. But in my head, I was thinking the Double H.
I was thinking, oh, this guy. Okay.

Speaker 4 Is he a Raven? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No. No.
No, because remember they have likely was like incredible.

Speaker 4 Is he a Bengal?

Speaker 4 And then Mark Andrews, who got into a car accident, and thankfully he's okay, but then he used the car accident to remind people of the importance of being aware when you're driving a car. Right.

Speaker 9 Meme says he knows it, which makes you think he's a chag.

Speaker 1 No, I said you guys should know this because we saw him. Oh, Charger.
Yep, okay. Bingo.
That was cheating, though. Yeah, sorry.
That's okay. Tyler Boyd.
Hmm.

Speaker 1 Seahawk. I knew he was off the the Bengals.
Jag?

Speaker 6 Nope.

Speaker 9 He seems like a Jag.

Speaker 1 He seems like a Titan. There we go.

Speaker 1 All right. There we go.

Speaker 1 We have like our

Speaker 1 trusty go-to is like Seahawks Titan. Jags.

Speaker 1 Jerry Judy.

Speaker 1 He's a brown. Yep.
Okay. Yeah.
We knew that. That one was easy.
Jacoby Brissette?

Speaker 4 Jacoby Brissett's. He's a patriot.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 He's back. He's starting tonight, I think.
Hank's leading him onto the field. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank knows him personally.

Speaker 1 You're the one who made this list, Huey.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm Alexander Madison.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 1 Now, this is one of those ones where I'm going to say the Packers because the Vikings got Aaron Jones. No.
Okay. Close.

Speaker 1 Oh, close. Didn't make sense, but it made sense in my head.

Speaker 4 Is he close?

Speaker 1 Is not close? No. Oh.

Speaker 4 is he a uh is he a texan no

Speaker 1 he's a titan no

Speaker 1 jaguar tell us who he is raider oh okay that makes sense i like that i like that fit sure yeah

Speaker 1 that's and i was i was close to the fact that josh jacobs went to the packers and aaron jones went to the vikings so obviously alexander madison would have to go to the raiders to complete the triangle yeah yeah oh yeah yeah they're swingers yeah right right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They shuffled the deck. The classic Packer

Speaker 1 Viking Raider three-way trade.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows that. Classic.

Speaker 4 All right. How many more you got? Max, are you playing tech deck?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's been doing it non-stop.

Speaker 9 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I did it the other night with Shraeger on, and I was like, dude, I can hear you doing that.

Speaker 4 Is there a better time to play with your tech deck than during a podcast?

Speaker 9 That's on me. That's on me.

Speaker 9 Memes is Michael Zone.

Speaker 1 He's just a dick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck you, memes. He wasn't even.
Yeah, no, memes. Yeah, good call, Max.

Speaker 1 Do tech tech cam for the people who are watching. Do tech tech cam real quick and do a trick.
You mean Ollie?

Speaker 1 Come on. He dropped a tech tech.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Get control of your board, bro.

Speaker 1 How many guys does it take to find a tech tech?

Speaker 4 The Falcons also signed Simmons.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 Justin Simmons. They're beefing up.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize also Jim Leonard is coach for the Broncos.

Speaker 4 That's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 that is cool, right? All right. How many more you got, Huey? I have five defensive players.
Oh, this is going to be tricky.

Speaker 4 And Belichick's coaching for the University of Washington this year.

Speaker 1 With Pete Carroll. Yep.
Start with the easiest. Okay.
Devin White.

Speaker 9 I know this one.

Speaker 4 Devin White. He's an Eagle.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How could I have ever figured that out?

Speaker 1 Safety, Xavier McKinney.

Speaker 1 Seahawk. No.
He was a giant. Titan.
No.

Speaker 4 Give it Jaguar.

Speaker 1 Packer. Oh.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 The next three are all from the 49ers.

Speaker 4 They left the 49ers.

Speaker 1 They left the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Brandon Ayuk. Randy Gregory.

Speaker 1 Eric Armstead.

Speaker 4 Chase Young. Chase Young's a saint.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Not literally, but

Speaker 1 seems like a decent guy. He's okay.
He went to Ohio State. Yeah.
True.

Speaker 4 Might have some free tattoos.

Speaker 1 Randy Gregory. Back on the Cowboys.
No.

Speaker 4 Randy Gregory. Big guy.

Speaker 4 Big guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Giant.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 Oh, I thought that was a clue. No,

Speaker 1 he was saying he was a big guy. He is a big guy.

Speaker 4 He is a big guy. Okay.

Speaker 1 Give it to us. Bucks.
Okay. And Eric Armstead is

Speaker 1 close to the Bucks. Jaguar.
There you go. Okay, it is.
Got it. All right.

Speaker 1 Feel good. Did we miss anyone big? I feel like...
I have Mike Williams, Tyron Smith. I have a couple names.
Mike Williams.

Speaker 10 Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 9 You know Mike Williams. Eckler.

Speaker 1 Eckler, I know that.

Speaker 9 Mike Williams went viral with the team that he signed with when he signed with them.

Speaker 4 For doing what? Oh, yeah, he did the thing.

Speaker 1 What did he do?

Speaker 9 If I tell you, it'll give it away.

Speaker 1 Just tell him. Well, then tell us, and then we can feel good about getting it.

Speaker 9 Taylor Ham, Egg and Cheese?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's a giant or Jet?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. We knew that.
Yeah. It's all about getting the right answer and being like, I got that myself.

Speaker 4 That's the key to to trivia.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was good. I feel like we got a bunch of them.
I'm trying to think if there's any off the top of my head that I was looking at.

Speaker 1 Josh Jacobs. I haven't really looked at it.

Speaker 4 Josh Jacobs was a good one. You need to know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah.
And it's also good for your fantasy drafts, too. Yep.
Like, remember where some of these guys are.

Speaker 4 Trying to think anybody else, any weird guys that we didn't cover.

Speaker 1 I think we're good. I mean, I'll throw this one out.
Obviously, I know, but DeAndre Swift is a bear. Yep.
I feel like that will get people a little confused, maybe.

Speaker 1 So he is a bear.

Speaker 4 How's Jameer Gibbs? What's the prospect on his father? He's going to be all right.

Speaker 1 He's going to be all right. The hamstring, just doing things, acting up.
It'll be all right. He'll be all right.
Nothing to think about. Nothing to worry about.
Nothing to think about.

Speaker 1 Nothing to worry about. No.
For us. So stop thinking about Jameer Gibbs.
Yeah, he's going to be all right. He's a good big kid.
Big guy. Big kid.

Speaker 4 That's what they say about him.

Speaker 1 You gave the speech that I give to my kids when they get a boo-boo. I'm like, like,

Speaker 1 you're tough. You're big.
You're a big kid. You're a big boy.
You're a big girl. You're a big.

Speaker 1 Just a hamstring. You're fine.

Speaker 1 You want me to kiss the boo-boo? All right, you're good. Get back out there, Jameer.

Speaker 4 That's what Dan Campbell does. Every player that gets hurt, he kisses the injury, and then they just heal.
Ready to go.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 let's do our Mount Rush more, Mount Rushmore movie quotes.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

Speaker 1 We don't have the updated standings, although I guess we could update them in real time. We're taping this on Wednesday because

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 our wonderful Hank,

Speaker 1 my best friend Hank, my brother for life, Hank, our special boy, has been bestowed with an incredible honor. Henry, would you like to tell the people where...

Speaker 1 So you'll be on Mount Rushmore because we're recording it early, but you won't be on the rest of the show for Friday. But it's probably the greatest

Speaker 1 excused absence of all time. Yeah, truly an honor.

Speaker 1 I have been asked, we kind of alluded to it earlier in Mount Rushmore season, but I have been asked to lead the New England Patriots out of the tunnel by

Speaker 1 being the keeper of the light. That's the tradition in New England.

Speaker 1 I have been asked to be the keeper of the light. I'm going to be ringing the bell to lead the team out onto the field against the Eagles.

Speaker 4 You're lighting the lighthouse?

Speaker 1 Essentially, yeah. So you're running out with them on the field? No, I'm leading them out.
How?

Speaker 1 By

Speaker 1 lighting them. Ringing the bell on the lighthouse.
Okay. Signal for them to run on the field.

Speaker 4 Hank, you're the lighthouse expert, not me.

Speaker 4 What does ringing a bell have to do with lighting a lighthouse?

Speaker 9 Because I'm. This is semantics at this point.
You guys are just trying to get on Hank.

Speaker 1 No, I'm actually very asking questions. I'm actually,

Speaker 1 PFD, by the time that this has aired, I do not exactly know how the system works, but by the time this is aired, you will have seen it. So I honestly don't have the answer for you.
Okay.

Speaker 1 If you watch it, you can find out by the time people are.

Speaker 4 I'm very excited for you.

Speaker 1 They will have seen it. Yeah, you sound really excited for you.

Speaker 4 No, you are the number one New England lighthouse fan in the world, so this is a big deal.

Speaker 1 And most lighthouses, to keep the light, you ring a bell. Most, every lighthouse has bells equipped on it, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because if you don't know, lighthouses were like, you know, to signal people, like the ships are coming in, ships are coming in, you have to let people know. So there's bells on lighthouses.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's to keep ships away.

Speaker 1 But what about the light? The light is the thing that's the seat.

Speaker 1 Like, there's multiple uses for a lighthouse, Dan.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 It's very versatile.

Speaker 1 Give me the two multiple uses. To

Speaker 1 guide ships into the harbor, to alert other ships. Like, well, who are the, the Bates sisters.
You know the Bates sisters. No.

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar with the Bates sisters. The Bates Sisters back in the Revolutionary War, they saw the British coming and they got on the lighthouse to signal.

Speaker 1 Oh, two if by land, one if by sea or whatever it was.

Speaker 4 I thought that was Paul Revere.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, I think that was Paul Revere.
No, that's Ichabod Crane.

Speaker 4 Headless horseman. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it's exciting. Well, congratulations, Hank.
We're so excited for you. I can tell by our tone that we're excited for.
Yeah, you guys are always excited for me.

Speaker 1 My biggest supporters, and I'd like to say thank you.

Speaker 4 No, it's great. I mean, the summer of Hank continues.
What do you think is going to be a bigger honor?

Speaker 4 Getting to ride on the duck boat with Coach Missoula or keeping the Lighthouse?

Speaker 1 It's up there. The Missoula one was all time, though.

Speaker 1 This is top, probably top five, but the Missoula one is 1-1. Are you a little worried that when you ring this bell for the Lighthouse, do I have that right?

Speaker 1 Again, I don't know exactly how the system works, but I'll be able to give you much more clarity on Sunday's episode. Okay, so when you ring.
I'm sorry that I can't get

Speaker 1 you guys

Speaker 1 to squeeze out of me. When you ring the bell for the lighthouse,

Speaker 1 are you worried at all that you're ringing the bell for the ending of Summer of Hank?

Speaker 1 No, what? Okay, all right.

Speaker 10 It's not over. I say this every year.

Speaker 1 Summer is not over. Don't give up on summer yet, people.
It's the beginning of

Speaker 4 the autumn of Hank.

Speaker 1 Hanktober. Dunktober.
Dunk, Dunkto. Oh, that's what is happening?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Dunktember. And Dunk Ember.
And Dunk Ember.

Speaker 1 Dunk Ember. Dunk Annuary.

Speaker 1 Dunk Yuary. No, Dunk Annuary.
We're too late.

Speaker 4 Dunk you Annuary mentory.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 6 But summer's not over.

Speaker 1 I hate people that give up on summer early. I love it.
I agree with you, Hank.

Speaker 4 Yeah. We quit on summer way too early.

Speaker 1 It's football season.

Speaker 1 This is going to be be huge we live for the summer you gotta enjoy every last weekend you get yeah keep that light hank thank you are you are you a little bit worried that someone's gonna catch you at a camera angle like was it the the guy from texas tech that was ringing that bell where it just looked like he was jerking off into the bell i'm not worried about that that's a funny video uh but no i'm not worried about that okay all right good good good good uh all right that'd be a shame let's do the mount rush more it is the mount rush more

Speaker 1 of movie quotes it's gonna be a good one uh right now it looks like PFT is going to win today's Mount Rushmore because he had Boobs.

Speaker 4 Boobs was system play.

Speaker 1 Hank, are you in last right now?

Speaker 1 Is that a rhetorical question? I'm assuming yes. Okay, so what's the scoring? Is it four points?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I'm going to be up by three. It's really confusing.
I'm going to be up by three on Hank.

Speaker 1 Is it three or is it four?

Speaker 4 Because I think you get first place, you get one, or you get four points.

Speaker 4 Wait, you get first place, you get four points.

Speaker 4 If you get last place, you get one point.

Speaker 4 No, it's four for first place.

Speaker 1 Four, three, two, one. It might be four.

Speaker 4 It's very simple.

Speaker 1 Four, three, two, one.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to get four points, Hank. You're going to get a point.
So I will be up by three.

Speaker 1 You sure? Movie quote. Yeah, it's true.
I don't own a gun. Let alone many guns to necessitate a gun rack.

Speaker 4 No stairway.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Ready?

Speaker 1 Ready, Hank?

Speaker 1 Whose pick is first?

Speaker 4 That's Big Cat. Oh.

Speaker 1 Is it? And who goes after me? Hank. Got it.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Movie quotes.
I'm going to go

Speaker 1 with the timeless, classic,

Speaker 1 very easy. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
Godfather. That's a great quote.
It's a quote. I love that quote.
Yeah, you've seen that movie many times.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.

Speaker 4 And then he puts a dead horse in his bed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. Yeah, that's part of the offer.
Well, he declined the offer.

Speaker 4 And the dead horse was like,

Speaker 6 don't decline the offer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 4 Negotiation. He said, way.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He said, no way.
And then he said, way.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Dank.

Speaker 1 Do you like that quote? Yeah, it's a good quote. Okay.
Was it on your list? No. Oh, okay.
Great. My list, again, like I'm the worst person at this game,

Speaker 1 but I went with movies that I love.

Speaker 1 I love Godfather. No, I know.
So, but like, Godfather. You don't love it.
I don't love it. I've seen it a few times.
I haven't seen it a million times.

Speaker 1 I kind of just went with the quotes off the top of my head from movies I've seen a million times. So, like, you're going to do, like, oh, you want to come in my ass?

Speaker 1 I don't know what that's from. I mean, movies you love.

Speaker 8 What movie is that?

Speaker 1 You know what movie that is.

Speaker 4 What about someone help me? I'm stuck in the window.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, where do you want to put it? It's usually the dryer.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with. It's pretty wet to me.
I got to go see about a girl. Ah, nice one.
My most famous quote from the movie, Fiddle Hunting. They ended up breaking up, right?

Speaker 1 I think it's open-ended. No, he went to Stanford and she was fucking another guy.

Speaker 4 Oh, I thought he left and he went to go see about her.

Speaker 1 His car broke down, actually, because it was a shitty car. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I wouldn't know anything about it.

Speaker 6 He only got two hours.

Speaker 1 Okay, good quote. Thanks.

Speaker 9 I'm not prepared for this one.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? I'm not prepared. There's a million movie quotes.
I literally brain dumped into this. It pops into my head.
I have like 40 that are just sitting here.

Speaker 9 This one I feel good about.

Speaker 1 You guys probably won't.

Speaker 9 But it was my favorite movie growing up as a kid.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm the garbage-kicking Philly kickum. No.

Speaker 9 You're killing me, Smalls.

Speaker 1 Okay. Ah, good pick.

Speaker 4 Sand lot. Great.

Speaker 1 Sand lot.

Speaker 1 It would have been funny if you just went all rocky. That also plays like

Speaker 1 there's movie quotes and there's movie quotes that like people say it all the time. Yeah.
You just say that to like, if like you say that to me, like you're killing me, Smalls.

Speaker 1 You're killing me, Smalls. Yeah.
It's a good one.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 So I get two, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You get two. Yep.
And then it's Max.

Speaker 4 Yeah, then it's Max. okay then it's head when do i come it's big cat and big cat gets two is that a quote that you have

Speaker 4 uh i'm gonna go with

Speaker 8 i'll be back

Speaker 4 schwarzenegger yeah terminator yeah i'll be back there's a lot of schwarzenegger terminator or terminator two uh i forget i think that was terminator one

Speaker 4 i think

Speaker 1 Seems like you love that movie.

Speaker 4 Is it movies or is it quotes?

Speaker 1 Movie quotes. Movie quotes.

Speaker 4 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 I just wanted to make sure I was getting this right.

Speaker 1 It is spicy in here, and I like it.

Speaker 1 I actually don't know which movie. That's a movie quote.

Speaker 1 Hard my take every episode.

Speaker 4 Number two, I'm going to go with, I'll have what she's having.

Speaker 1 When Harry met Sally. Couldn't tell you what she's doing.
Got it. Got it.
Got it. I mean,

Speaker 1 I knew that quote. I just couldn't remember the movie.

Speaker 4 Undeniably one of the most iconic movie quotes of all time. Yes.
They're in the diner. She's faking an orgasm.
Then Rob Reiner's mom says, I'll have what she's having.

Speaker 4 Classic. Classic pit.

Speaker 1 Undeniable. Undeniable.

Speaker 1 Can't deny that one. Did you have that one, Hank? I did not.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 9 I am going to go show me the money, Jerry Maguire.

Speaker 4 Good pick.

Speaker 9 Okay. Very funny scene.
That was like one of the...

Speaker 9 I think that I remember watching that movie as a kid.

Speaker 9 I think it's rated. That's a rated R movie.
It was one that was like... I watched it earlier than I should.
I remember watching that scene being like, that was was so fucking funny.

Speaker 1 And it's a good quote. Are we, for the graphic, we're obviously going to put the movie? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Show me the money.

Speaker 4 Now it's a TikTok challenge. There's a great line from that movie, too, that could have been on this list.

Speaker 1 The human head weighs eight pounds? Yeah.

Speaker 9 There's a couple.

Speaker 4 There's a few.

Speaker 1 Whatever, what other one? I mean, you had me at Hillo.

Speaker 1 You had me at Hillel.

Speaker 1 You weren't thinking of the human head weighs eight pounds. that, but I that's still in play.

Speaker 9 The show me the money scene is funny, is funny, is the funniest one to me. That's why I picked that one out of the movie.

Speaker 1 Give me my money. Give me my money.

Speaker 1 I will go with this one. It might be a stretch, but it actually applies to me the most.

Speaker 1 I actually turned on this video last night because I've been going through it a little bit in life and in this segment specifically. Oh.

Speaker 1 The night is dark as just before the dawn. Oh.

Speaker 1 And it's dark for me right now. From?

Speaker 1 From Batman, the Dark Night.

Speaker 4 Nice. Okay.
Is that true?

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely. Okay.
Why else would they say it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, good point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So I have two now, Hank.

Speaker 1 I just went.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you went, Hank. So now.
And Max, you went before.

Speaker 1 Max went before Jack.

Speaker 4 Okay, correct. So that means

Speaker 1 two.

Speaker 1 Okay, I have two. Yeah, it's Snake.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. All right.
I'll go.

Speaker 1 I'm going to stick with the theme real quick with

Speaker 1 Al Pacino. I'm gonna go with say hello to my little friend.
That's a good one. I had it.
I had it at it. I had it.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's just scarface.

Speaker 1 Classic. All right.
And then I'm going to go

Speaker 1 with a newer movie.

Speaker 1 And I feel like this is more just like people like to use this everyday life, memes, everything. I fired out of my heart.

Speaker 1 That is a good moving board. I should have put that down.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go Wolf of Wall Wall Street. I'm not leaving.
I'm not fucking leaving. That's a good one.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's definitely

Speaker 1 a disturbance. Yeah.
Yeah. It gets you fired up.

Speaker 4 Anytime a coach stays.

Speaker 1 Fucking leaving. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Just gets you fired up.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 There's a lot. There's a lot to pick for.
There's a lot of good quotes.

Speaker 4 That's what makes this hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's a good Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 4 Great topic by you, Hank.

Speaker 1 You're the one who picked it.

Speaker 1 You picked this Mount Rushmore, so credit to you for picking a great Mount Rushmore, Hank.

Speaker 1 Did you know it was your turn? Oh, you just picked two?

Speaker 1 You fucking ass. Oh, okay, so it's my turn.

Speaker 4 See, this one actually, like,

Speaker 1 I think that people have the wrong...

Speaker 1 I was one of those people until I Googled it to double check. But

Speaker 1 the quote is, you're going to need a bigger boat. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You would think it's, we're going to need a bigger boat, but it's going to need a bigger boat, but that's my pick. A good quote.
I had it on my list. Yep.
But did you pull it?

Speaker 1 Did you not think it was we're going to need a bigger boat? Yes.

Speaker 4 I thought it was, I think we're going to need a bigger boat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Berenstein Bears style. Yeah, definitely.
But it's, you're going to, that's the quote is, you're going to need a bigger boat. So that's the quote.
Yep. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good, good pick, Hank. Max.

Speaker 6 Max is struggling.

Speaker 8 I have a question.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 9 Can I also take a Godfather quote?

Speaker 1 Yes. Of course.

Speaker 9 Okay, then I'll take leave the gun, take the cannoli.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
good pick good pick

Speaker 1 from a famous scene

Speaker 1 great portable great pick pft

Speaker 1 oh am I up yeah okay

Speaker 4 I have two

Speaker 1 yeah I've thought of like six more quotes doing this I know

Speaker 4 okay I'm just don't I don't know this is very hard it's very difficult I'm gonna go with mama always said life was like a box of chocolates you never

Speaker 4 what you're gonna get for scump. Come on.

Speaker 4 Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.

Speaker 1 How can you rob the people of that column?

Speaker 4 Those must be comfortable shoes. I wish I had me some shoes like that.

Speaker 1 I actually was, I was not picking up. Mama said they were my magic shoes.
I wanted you to pick it because I wanted you to do it.

Speaker 4 Jenny and me was like peas and carrots.

Speaker 1 Okay. Magic legs.

Speaker 4 I could just keep doing this.

Speaker 4 Okay, so I get two. So I'm going to have another one.
And my second pick is going to be

Speaker 4 You can't handle the truth.

Speaker 1 Good one.

Speaker 4 Versatile. You just scream it at anybody.

Speaker 1 Very, very versatile.

Speaker 9 I hate my draft is horrible.

Speaker 1 You're all.

Speaker 9 I'm just going to keep going with the clinched.

Speaker 1 Mine's worse. Mine is so bad.

Speaker 9 I'm just going to go, yo, Adrian.

Speaker 1 Give me a, I need to throw me a rocky. That's a good one, yeah.
Yo, Adrian!

Speaker 1 I just took the meatballs of. You know what's great?

Speaker 4 Like, Max never overthinks it, and that's why he does so well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 9 No, I'm going to lose this one.

Speaker 1 He He empties his brain for sure.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, your last pick.

Speaker 1 I feel like I have to. He's the most quoted person in my life.
I think the most quotable movies that he has, so I have to pick one from him.

Speaker 1 There's so many to choose from.

Speaker 1 But I think what will look the funniest on the graphic is

Speaker 4 today, Jr.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Had to get an Adam Sandler quote on here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's so many. Like, it's hard.
I wanted to, I kind of wanted to do, like, the one I like to say the most is like, I eat pieces of shit like you do for breakfast. You eat pieces of shit.

Speaker 1 But that's just a lot of words. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, but so what?

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 1 today, Junior.

Speaker 4 It's a good one. It's a good one.

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll go with my last one.
There's so many.

Speaker 4 We should do Adam Sandler movies. I know.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I like this one. Fuck.
I'm going to go with it. There are so many good ones.
I have so many left on the floor.

Speaker 1 Could have gone 12 rounds.

Speaker 1 But I love this one because you can use it for everything else. Let's go eight.
We could have go eight.

Speaker 1 Six?

Speaker 1 If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook. I love that quote.
Okay. Yeah.
You just basically just write at someone's face.

Speaker 1 Like, if you would have done it, you would have done it.

Speaker 4 The Winkle Vise.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Mark Zuckerberg.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Said it to the Winkle Vise.

Speaker 1 All right, so we have honorable mentions. There's so many.

Speaker 4 So many. There's one.

Speaker 1 Like, I was kind of thinking, because Hank is right. The smaller quotes help.

Speaker 1 Like, are you not entertained? Would have been a good one.

Speaker 8 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Why So Serious, Batman?

Speaker 9 Why So Serious was definitely the.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Wonder how I got these scars. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Oh, Why So Serious is definitely the one.

Speaker 1 Just Keep Swimming, Finding Nemo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at me. Look at me.
I'm the captain now.

Speaker 4 That's good. That's a good one.

Speaker 4 I feel the need. The need for speed.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Top gun.

Speaker 1 Bond. James Bond.
Bond, James Bond. My team is on the floor.
Hoosiers.

Speaker 4 Pain heals. Chicks dig scars.
Glory lasts forever.

Speaker 1 I probably fucked up. I probably fucked up my last quote.
I should have gone with the other one I was thinking about. You blitz all night.

Speaker 1 Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you can miss it.
Ferris Pierre.

Speaker 1 If you build it, he will come. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Get to the chopper.

Speaker 1 I see dead people. That's a good one.
I know you are, but what am I? Pee-wee's big adventure. Keep your friends.
I love that movie. Your friends close, but your enemy's closer.
Godfather. Yeah.

Speaker 4 There's no crying in baseball. That's good.

Speaker 9 There's no crying crying in baseball. It's good.

Speaker 1 Max has not given us any honorable mentality. No, I'm not.
Well,

Speaker 1 I wasn't prepared. The one that's very quotable, but I don't really know how you, because you got to get the whole line in.
But,

Speaker 1 hey, Greg, why don't you go pitch your pants again? That was eight years ago, asshole. People don't forget.
Yep. I guess you could just go people don't forget, but kind of need the whole thing.

Speaker 1 But that one, people don't forget, is like. Did we just become best friends? Yep.
Mm-hmm. I mean, that's always us.
The two of us. If you, this is something I ask my friends a lot, but if what is the

Speaker 1 movie that you think you know the most percentage of lines in it?

Speaker 4 Force comp.

Speaker 1 Like, not quotes from it, but like you, like word for word, whole movie. Yeah, force comp.

Speaker 1 Probably Science of the Lambs. I had one of those quotes in there.

Speaker 6 Oh, the Chianti?

Speaker 1 Since it's Take once tried to test me. I hate that.
That's like a lot of people. There's a lot of dialogue.
I'm talking about every line of dialogue. Oh,

Speaker 4 it puts lotion on its skin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I would say I...
Benjamin Benjamin Raths Bell, a fledgling killer's first flight. Hester Moffat, it's an anagram.

Speaker 9 Clarice.

Speaker 1 The rest of me.

Speaker 1 Is Silence of the Lambs a sequel?

Speaker 1 Kind of. Brian Cox played Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 4 I think it kind of is. I think Manhunter was a prequel that came out.
I don't know. I get the timeline confusing.

Speaker 1 No, well, there's Red Dragon, which is awesome. I read an article about Harry.
And there's a Hannibal 2, which was not great.

Speaker 1 And then there's Hannibal 4, I want to say, that was okay. I read an article about how Brian Cox worked on Super Troopers, and it was like they offered it to Bill Murray.
Then he turned it down.

Speaker 1 Brian Cox read it. He was like, I always kind of wanted to do comedy.
And then I played Hannibal Ector, and my whole career changed. And I was like, wait,

Speaker 1 Brian Cox played Hannibal Elector. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That was Manhunter.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that was before Silence of the Lambs. Yeah.
So that Hannibal Elector. Silence of the Lambs is a sequel.

Speaker 4 It was played by two different people.

Speaker 4 I don't know if they call it a sequel in the classic sense of it. But yeah, it's like in the same universe.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 One of my favorite. You don't need to see Manhunter to see Son Salan.
Correct. Right.
And you don't need to see Red Dragon. Or you don't need to see Silence Land to see Red Dragon.

Speaker 1 I heard of Red Dragon. Red Dragon.
Oh, dude. Red Dragon is incredible.

Speaker 8 I've also never watched Red Dragon again.

Speaker 1 Edward Norton. It's scary as fuck.
So fucking scary.

Speaker 4 Awesome movie. There's a lot of naked crouching in that movie, though.
Yeah. Heads up.

Speaker 1 Dude, Red Dragon is awesome.

Speaker 1 One of my favorite quotes of all time from a movie, but I feel like it wouldn't have really played on the graphic.

Speaker 1 And it's also, I mean, Roadhouse is a popular movie, but I used to fuck guys like you in prison. Which was an ad-lib

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 quote. It wasn't on the script because it still makes no sense.
You just, he was, he had him in a chokehold. He said, I used to fuck guys like you in prison.
So he's just saying that he fucked.

Speaker 1 My favorite quote. Cardiacola.
Do it. My favorite quote from Rollins.
Utah, give me two. Two.

Speaker 4 My favorite quote from Roadhouse. That's a great one.

Speaker 1 There's so much.

Speaker 4 Pain don't hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know a lot about golf. Or no, you know a lot about golf.
I even know, I know even more about grass. Yeah.
I fucked up my last pick. Hing Kong ain't got shit on me.

Speaker 4 Houston, we have a problem. Houston, we have a problem.

Speaker 1 Hing Kong ain't got shit on me. Damn.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's streaking. I didn't know you like to get wet.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You just smoke PCP, Jake. Come on, Jake.

Speaker 9 I had, if you could dodge a wrench, you could dodge a ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Head body, head, body.

Speaker 1 I actually think you didn't use the most.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. One just popped in my head we were gonna say urine

Speaker 1 what doder well no like

Speaker 1 urine

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 7 um

Speaker 1 that's what i love about these high school girls yeah get older and they stay the same age or just all right all right all right what are some yeah

Speaker 1 uh i also had uh smokey this not nom this bowling there are rules yep and uh also well yeah you know that's just like your opinion man you are entering a world of pain yeah there's a lot of good this is what you get when you fuck fuck a stranger in the asshole.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Daniel Kowski has a great one.

Speaker 1 Ass to Ass. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Requiem for a Dream. Yeah.
By the way, I don't know if this was on camera or not.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think it was.

Speaker 4 We were, I think it was disc golf, right? We were playing disc golf, and we started to do the Requiem for a Dream music. All right, this is

Speaker 4 the dramatic opera set.

Speaker 4 That goes...

Speaker 4 You've heard it in every dramatic movie, every dramatic commercial. And Hank said.

Speaker 1 I feel like you guys don't understand satire, even though despite your careers. That was so serious when you said that.

Speaker 1 There was no way that was satire.

Speaker 1 I think the song was from Wheque for a Dream.

Speaker 1 PFT, what did it mean? Like, do you think I didn't know it was from Whequerum for a Dream?

Speaker 1 Are you saying Wequium? Requiem.

Speaker 4 Hank said that the 2009 Boston Celtics made that song famous.

Speaker 1 Right, which, like, if you think I was being serious when I said that.

Speaker 4 I I think you were. We're going to have to check the tapes.
Yeah, we'll check the tapes.

Speaker 1 We'll get to the tapes. We'll go to the tapes.

Speaker 4 This is good Mount Rushmore. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Yeah, that's a good one. You ever been to Turkish prison?

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 Shit. Anything else? You motorboating son of a bitch.

Speaker 9 Good Mount Rushmore, Hank.

Speaker 4 Good Mount Rushmore. Not you, not you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought you would have gone more to be me, you, and Sean. What's the one? What's the,

Speaker 1 I'm the guy who,

Speaker 1 when he's like, I'm the guy who does this and you're the other guy.

Speaker 9 Who's the bad guy?

Speaker 1 Oh, the bad guy. That's a great one.

Speaker 4 I'm the guy that does his job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you must be the other guy. You're the other guy, yeah.
That's departed. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I thought you'd go with some of those.

Speaker 4 Whose car are we taking?

Speaker 1 All you care about is playing Coke and Xbox. Whose car are we taking?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you missed that. That was a big miss for you.

Speaker 1 I could have just done Boston movies. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Playing football for Wes K and Haskell was the opportunity of your life.

Speaker 1 That was college soccer.

Speaker 1 All right. Good Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Hank. Good luck.
Thank you. Lighting.
Well, when this airs, you have already...

Speaker 1 Wait, is he lighting it or is he ringing a bell?

Speaker 4 He will have rung the bell. And you can't unring a bell.

Speaker 9 He's going to lead the team out onto the field, and that's what you guys don't understand.

Speaker 4 It was great. They had the rugby team do it for week one.
Hank, week two.

Speaker 4 It was big.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ring that bell. Sounds like you're.

Speaker 1 No, I love rugby. Rugby's.
No. If I had said it, watch.
He said it that way. I said,

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had the rugby team do it week one, and then you did week two.

Speaker 1 That's different.

Speaker 4 The free jacks did it.

Speaker 1 You're going to be great. You're going to do great sweets.
Hank, you're, you're.

Speaker 4 Listen, I love rugby. I love you.
This is a big Fortnite for me. And you love rugby too.
You stiff arm Max. Remember that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a great clip. We should post that more.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Memes, what happened to that one? That clip kind of fell off. Did somebody pay you off?

Speaker 1 Stiff arm? The stiff arm one? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I can bring back that. Yeah, shit is coming.
Cool. Okay, great.

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Speaker 4 And now, here's Khalil Mack.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is

Speaker 1 Los Angeles Chargers Khalil Mack.

Speaker 6 Wish he was still a bear.

Speaker 1 This is our Grit Week interviews presented by Coors Light. So, Khalil, first of all, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 First question, same question we ask everyone on Grit Week. How do you define grit?

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Just a badass, tough motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Willing to do anything to help the team win. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's a good answer.

Speaker 4 Are you a badass, tough motherfucker?

Speaker 1 I mean, it should be obvious. I shouldn't have to tell you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want it to be obvious with my actions on the field,

Speaker 1 not just speaking on it. Yeah, I would say you are.
A true badass motherfucker doesn't have to say they are. Everyone just knows it.
I want you to say it for me. Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 You are a true badass motherfucker. You can redo the intro if you want.

Speaker 4 We're joined by a very special guest, Khalil Mack, a true badass motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
That sounds good. Yeah, yeah.
That sounds cool. So, Khalil,

Speaker 1 I talked to you a little yesterday. I wish you were still a bear.

Speaker 1 But we're excited to have you on. I'm happy that you're doing well with the Chargers.

Speaker 4 How many sacks do you have last year?

Speaker 1 17 and a half. Geez, 17 and a half.
You're 17, maybe 17. I should have actually introduced it differently, Future Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 Have you thought in your head like the number of sacks you want to get to? Because you're over 100. Yeah.
You're getting into that territory where it's like these are some real dudes up here.

Speaker 1 Do you have a number in your head?

Speaker 1 Definitely don't have a number in my head.

Speaker 1 The only number I had in my head was the 100.

Speaker 1 Knowing I can get to that was pretty cool last year.

Speaker 1 But from now on, it's just going out and playing ball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's crazy that you got to 100 sacks with, for people who don't know your story with football, you only played one year of high school football, right?

Speaker 1 So there's a whole alternate world where you don't get hurt playing basketball in high school and you never play football? Low-key, yeah, yeah. I probably have to be a physical trainer or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's nice.

Speaker 1 Trainer, yeah.

Speaker 4 So it was a knee injury?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Patella.

Speaker 4 You tore your patella? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you came back and you became one of the most explosive football players in the world.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 That's good. God is good.
God is amazing, man. So when you switched to football, because you were, you know, obviously you were thinking, all right, basketball, I'm going to get a scholarship.

Speaker 1 You have one year of high school football. Were you like, this might be the end for me? Like, unless I have to play out and then hope that something falls in my lap here? Yeah, low-key, man.

Speaker 1 But the first day we put pads on, my head coach at the time in high school, his name is Wade's Ashman.

Speaker 1 He said,

Speaker 1 after the padded practice, he was like, I might be able to get you a scholarship, man.

Speaker 1 And that might be turned into an offer from Liberty University, and then

Speaker 1 that changed into an offer from University at Buffalo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was the first day he was like, oh yeah, you might be a scholarship guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 That's awesome. So you go from Florida, you grow up in Florida, and then you go up to Buffalo.

Speaker 1 We love Buffalo. Buffalo is a great place.

Speaker 4 We love Buffalo. There's great people up there.
But the first time you got to really experience the cold in Buffalo as a guy from Florida, what was that like?

Speaker 1 Man, it was life-changing, man.

Speaker 1 I think I had my biggest winter coat on the first day of maybe like 50 degrees. And everybody was looking at me like, why you got your biggest? I think you saw it like Burlington Coat Factory.

Speaker 1 My pop took me to Burlington Coat Factory to get me the big jacket. And I had it on thinking that was the coldest it was going to get.
But when it got to negative 10 and 5,

Speaker 1 it was definitely life-changing. Yeah.
And at Buffalo, you were insane. First team All-American in the Mac, which is hard to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 At what point in your career at Buffalo could you tell, like, not that the game was easy for you, but you were clearly just so much better than everyone else on the field?

Speaker 1 Man, I remember the first day of Pat at Practice going against the tight end at the time was a guy named Jesse Rack.

Speaker 1 I think he was probably like a decorated guy as well in the Mac conference. And

Speaker 1 I remember whooping him

Speaker 1 pretty good.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Jesse. No, no, no offense.
But

Speaker 1 I remember whooping him pretty good and then going against another guy, James Starks,

Speaker 1 and him. instilling that confidence in me like, man,

Speaker 1 you can ball, bro. Once I heard it from him and seeing him go on to the Green Bay and do what he did his first year in the league and win the Super Bowl and all those different things,

Speaker 1 it kind of helped my confidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 And then going to the draft process, I know GMs, they like to get real weird with it. They like to figure out if a guy is mentally tough enough, especially if they come from a small school, right?

Speaker 4 Like maybe all your physical stuff is out there and they measure it and they're like, yeah, it fits the profile. But when they're talking to you,

Speaker 4 would they try to fuck with you a little bit, like knock you off balance in the interviews?

Speaker 1 I feel like the only interview I had that ended up being like the funniest one because that's the team that drafted me was

Speaker 1 with the Raiders. And

Speaker 1 so talking to them, it was definitely funny in a sense. So they tried to get the feel for the type of person I was just from the 15-minute conversation at the time.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't so much of them trying to figure out if I was tough because I feel like they can already tell.

Speaker 1 But just seeing the demeanor that I have off the field versus the one I have on the field, it's kind of two different things.

Speaker 4 Did you talk to Mark Davis in that interview process?

Speaker 1 Not Mark Davis. I just remember talking to Reggie McKenzie and all the guys that were under him at the time.
And yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk to Mark. No.

Speaker 4 Mark, he's a hero of ours. I know you probably have your differences with the whole contract.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. It's all love.
It's still all love from Mark. But

Speaker 1 the Gruden guy is the guy that I probably had the biggest issue with.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was weird, right? Because I remember the contract negotiation, because you were first team all-pro.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 was it Oakland at the time or was it Vegas?

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 I really can't remember.

Speaker 1 What year was it? Maybe it was it. 2018? Yeah, you were always

Speaker 1 with embarrassing. I was with embarrassing 18.
Yeah, so

Speaker 4 I know you had your differences with the organization, but Gruden was coming in, and it felt like that contract negotiating just kept getting dragged out and dragged out.

Speaker 4 It's like, when is this going to happen? Is it going to happen? And then you get traded, and Gruden says that you didn't want to be there. Yeah.
But you never talked to Gruden. Exactly.

Speaker 4 Have you talked to him yet?

Speaker 1 Man, I talked to him a few times since then.

Speaker 1 A few supposed to be private conversations, but

Speaker 1 one of them was, oh, you motherfuckers won.

Speaker 1 You motherfuckers won

Speaker 1 the trade or whatever at the time. And I knew we were going to play Oakland that next year after my 18, that year in 18 with the Barris.

Speaker 1 I think we were going to play him in London. He was like, I'm going to send the house at your ass whenever we play.

Speaker 1 And that motherfucker, he really did. Yeah.
It was funny. It was funny just interacting with him over the phone.
It kind of squashing the beef, but not really. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it's always going to be

Speaker 1 that same feeling every time I see those colors on the other side. Yeah, use it to motivate you.
I had another question about your draft process.

Speaker 1 How much do you think your helmet, your face mask, helped you get drafted so high? Because that was the coolest face mask ever, the one you wanted to wore at Buffalo.

Speaker 1 You looked like Bain. Yeah, I wanted to wear it in the league.
I thought

Speaker 1 Ray Lewis probably wore it maybe the year before. Yeah.
Or two years or three years before. I know Justin Tucker was wearing it.
And then they changed the rules

Speaker 1 as soon as I got to the league. And so maybe that did help.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was the coolest thing ever. I also read a story.
I wonder if you remember this.

Speaker 1 I read a story that you were so dominant in practice at Buffalo that they would make you line up like five yards off of the line because they were like, the offense can't get their plays off.

Speaker 1 No, that ain't true. Okay, they they never did that.

Speaker 1 That's funny, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, and then the other one, the other story I read, which was crazy, I guess there was a pass rush where you, one arm hit the tackle and he was falling into the quarterback, and then you grabbed the tackle and basically picked him back up so he didn't fall into the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Man, I think I'm still doing that shit. That's great.
They said they watched it after, like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 Just like the quarterback, the story I read, the quarterback watched it after and was like, Khalil Max saved my life. Because

Speaker 1 you basically threw him up in the air, and then as he was falling, you grabbed him and pulled him back. Quarterbacks that's been on the wrong end of that, I think Eli.
I think I caught Eli.

Speaker 1 I wasn't trying to do it, but it just so happened to happen that way. I think Eli was the only guy I probably got like that.
Just throwing someone else into him? Yeah, throwing it.

Speaker 1 Were your best sacks? Maybe him and Kirk Cousins, maybe? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, those two checkout for guys that would get sacked like that. Your best sack of all time was when you sacked Aaron Rodgers with your ass.
Yeah. That was awesome.

Speaker 4 It was the ass sack.

Speaker 1 That was great. And you forced the fumble, right? I thought they called it the back, the back sack.

Speaker 4 No, it backed that ass up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was that the week one game?

Speaker 4 It was a great sack.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think it was week one.

Speaker 1 The week one game sucked. That one when they came back.
The NFC,

Speaker 1 when we clinched the NFC, yeah, yeah, at the end of the season. NFC North.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 but in the play, you can watch it back and you realize, oh, I'm not going to be able to turn around. I'm just going to stick my ass.
And your ass forced the fumble.

Speaker 4 I mean it's true.

Speaker 1 I knew he was somewhere back there and I was trying to grab grab at the ball.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, whatever, whatever. By any means, I was trying to get that motherfucker, man.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I do have to bring up a bad memory, the double doink, but I want to talk about the 2018 Bears because that defense was so much fun to watch. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 At what point in the season were you like, this is a different like, because I thought, you know, if you beat the Eagles, like, the sky's the limit with the way the defense was playing. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Man, man, bringing back memories like a mug, man. Um, the first day there, man, I kind of just got a feel for the guys.

Speaker 1 Um, knowing that Kyle Fuller was there, I knew you had a ball on the outside, but I didn't know a lot about Prince Amukamoor.

Speaker 1 Yep, but um, sitting down, talking with him, and then figuring out that this he can press off the line and all these different things.

Speaker 1 And I didn't even know this young guy, Eddie Jackson, was in the back end, um, ready to catch the ball and score at any moment. Yep,

Speaker 1 Yeah, along with Amos and Hicks.

Speaker 1 And then you got two guys, a guy that just got drafted and Rokorn Smith at the time, and Danny Trevathan in the middle. Yep.

Speaker 1 And then Akeem and Eddie Goldman and

Speaker 1 Leonard Floyd on the outside. So it was like, I didn't know I was coming into this.
Because I really didn't know a lot about the Bears' organization before I went.

Speaker 1 I think I made a joke and said I met

Speaker 1 the whole McCasky family and had no clue who was who. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a real big

Speaker 1 shock in the culture of just seeing how big that family was and how much that team meant to the city of Chicago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that double doink, how long did it take you to. Man.
People still just like spam it in my replies on Twitter all the time.

Speaker 1 I'm a bit delusional because it's like at the time I was thinking, man,

Speaker 1 it won't be so bad. We could keep this group together.
Yeah. We can come back next year and have another shot.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's what I've immediately fixed my mind to. But as time goes on, you feel it more.

Speaker 1 And just the understanding of, damn,

Speaker 1 that was a rare opportunity right there, man, to really do what I want to do before I hang them up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you think it was maybe a mistake the next season started with Matt Nagy doing ending every practice with kickers kicking from that spot? Oh, man. See,

Speaker 1 I don't know that. I didn't even know that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 You tried to like exercise the demon.

Speaker 4 All that does, it just puts it right back in your head.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, it is a crazy play. Yeah.
Double doink.

Speaker 1 And you guys were so good. Like, I know that I'm obviously very biased, and everyone laughs at the Bears and were a joke and all that stuff.
But...

Speaker 1 That team was playing.

Speaker 1 Like, I remember the game that I think about in that season was when the Rams, who end up going to the Super Bowl that year, come with their offense to Soldier Field, and I think you guys didn't even let them score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Just absolutely demolish them. And I was like, this is different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 That was a special group, man.

Speaker 1 And also with Coach Vic Fangio, man, just the mastermind behind him as a whole and him understanding the players that he had and making sure

Speaker 1 before the week.

Speaker 1 We were prepared and knew what we were going to do. And everything was just going to be,

Speaker 1 we expected to dominate the teams that we went against. And so,

Speaker 1 yeah, man, shouts out to them, man. I definitely missed that group.

Speaker 4 Yeah, do you miss bare weather at all?

Speaker 1 Nah, I don't miss the winner. I don't miss the winter time, but

Speaker 1 I miss like the falls and the fall seasons and all those different things. Man, Chicago is a beautiful city, man.

Speaker 1 I moved from Glenco

Speaker 1 down to like the, what do they call that? The Golden

Speaker 1 Triangle. The Golden Triangle right now, the Gold Coast.
Niagara Triangle or the Gold Coast? You know the Triangle? Niagara Triangle, yeah. Yeah, you know it.

Speaker 1 I'm still a little young for that. I gotta wait until my dick stops working.

Speaker 1 I didn't even know we could talk all this time. We can talk like this.
Yeah, we talk whatever you want. Yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Any questions about our dick?

Speaker 1 No, hell no. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 If they come up, if it comes up naturally, we're happy to address.

Speaker 4 Listen, guys need to be able to talk to each other.

Speaker 1 No, but they're all good. Guys,

Speaker 1 it's fine, by the way. So you mentioned where you're living.
It's not really that good.

Speaker 1 We have to bring, I told you this yesterday. We have to put to bed the Halloween, the famous Halloween story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the media ran with it.
The Khalil Mack hates kids.

Speaker 1 Khalil Mack hates Halloween. What was that? He shut down his house

Speaker 1 for Halloween, turned off the lights,

Speaker 1 had a security out front. What happened? Man, so what happened was

Speaker 1 some type of way, my address was on the news in Chicago.

Speaker 1 And I just had random people just randomly coming up to my house for probably like a week before Halloween even came came about. And so

Speaker 1 talking to my guy Tarpy. I don't know if you know John.

Speaker 1 That's my guy Tarpy. I'm like, Tarp, man, I don't really feel too safe right now.
I'm trying to figure out

Speaker 1 the Chicago media system.

Speaker 1 They can just put your house online

Speaker 1 on the news. He's like, man, trust me, it's different, but we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, okay, bet, before Halloween, we're going to have to figure something out because I know it's probably going to be a lot of traffic coming through here.

Speaker 1 And I want to make sure everything is good at the house. Yeah.
And he was like, Okay, bet, we can set something up.

Speaker 1 And so he just so happened to have one of the security from the team to sit outside to make sure it wasn't anybody really trying to just break in

Speaker 1 for so much of the word for the turn. But

Speaker 1 yeah, and at the time, I don't think I had my gate up yet. I think it was partially up, maybe.
Yeah. I feel like it was like partially up, and the entrances were like no dates.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it looked a little awkward, but at the time, I didn't have any candy. I just moved in.
I don't think I had a bed at the time, for real.

Speaker 1 And so it was one of those things.

Speaker 1 So for the record, Khleil Mac does not hate Halloween. Yeah.
And Khlil Mac is for the kids. I don't celebrate.
I personally don't celebrate.

Speaker 1 You might hate Halloween. You might hate Halloween.
No, I don't celebrate it. Okay.
I don't celebrate it. Why don't you celebrate it? I don't celebrate it because of my beliefs.
Okay. Oh, all right.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
So, but do you, are you for the kids? Oh, yeah, I'm for the kids. Okay.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
I just wasn't for, you know, your dress getting leaked. I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 That was new for me

Speaker 1 coming from San Ramon, California.

Speaker 1 It wasn't that intense. Yeah.
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 4 So if a kid comes up to you, not on Halloween, different day, dressed in a costume and they're like, Mr. Mac, Mr.
Mac, can I have some candy, please, Mr. Mac? Would you give that child candy?

Speaker 1 You have a bag, you have a full candy in your pocket.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Absolutely.
Good. Y'all seen

Speaker 1 Halloween guys? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like candy. You like candy? Yeah.
Yeah. What kind of candy do you like?

Speaker 4 I like, so my favorites are like Sour Patch Kids.

Speaker 1 Oh, Sour Patch. I like Three Musketeers a lot.

Speaker 4 I like Twix. I like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.

Speaker 1 We saw it down in, I think... It was a linebacker's room.
There's just two boxes full of candy.

Speaker 4 They said that that wasn't yours, though. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Does Coach Ben Herbert know about that? Man, I hope not. Yeah.
I hope not. He'll kick your ass.
I hope not. I think I've seen a picture of you doing

Speaker 1 the neck exercise. Yeah, how strong was your neck when he did he test your neck? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 He tested your neck? Yeah, he tested our necks.

Speaker 1 What test did he do?

Speaker 4 He put us through a neck workout.

Speaker 1 He pushed on our head.

Speaker 4 He put his hand on the back of my head and then gave me a neck workout.

Speaker 1 Do you think he's made you harder to break?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's literally what he did. Well, the pictures weren't great for us.
They were not great.

Speaker 4 But my neck is so sore this morning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My neck is very sore.

Speaker 4 My jaw, too, for some time.

Speaker 1 I was working hard. Real hard.

Speaker 4 That's a different thing, though. That's unrelated.

Speaker 1 Do you think he's made you harder to break? Man, absolutely, man. Coach, Coach Herb, man, he's a smart dude.
Intense. Yeah.
You know?

Speaker 1 You try to, you know, it comes all as intimidating to some people, but

Speaker 1 I like that energy, man.

Speaker 1 Almost come off like one of the fullbacks. That's a little throw it off in the head.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's going to try to knock your head off. But yeah, he's a good dude, man.
And he understands the body, man.

Speaker 1 Wait, so what position group is the craziest on a football team? Like, what room is like, don't fuck with those guys?

Speaker 1 Crazy in what sense? Like, crazy in, like, what sense? Just like

Speaker 1 they're a little off. Like, mentally, they're a little off.
They got to be a little off to play that position. Maybe it's D-line.
So, can we do a top five? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So, crazy in the sense of the word.
So yeah, you'll have to, you will, ideally, you want your D-line to be a little

Speaker 1 off. Yeah, yeah.
You want them to, yeah. Just get mad at nothing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then you want your linebackers. Yep.
Whether it's edge or inside.

Speaker 1 And then you want what?

Speaker 1 You want your O-line. Yep.
You want your O-line.

Speaker 1 I low-key, I prefer the O-line to be at the top of that list. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nowadays, it don't seem like it's a lot of like crazy O-line. O-line, and they they seem like they got a lot of sense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like back, Richie and Cognito.

Speaker 1 You want Richie and Cogito and O-Richie. Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. That type vibe.
Nowadays, so I put them three.

Speaker 1 Who else you got? I mean, I would assume you want defensive backs to be a little crazy because they have to. You want them to be crazy, but you want them to be a little...

Speaker 1 You want them to be a controlled, kind of a controlled aggression. You don't want them, like a safety maybe.
Yeah. You want your safety to be a little throwed off.
I like

Speaker 1 Derwin. Definitely.

Speaker 1 He got a little bit to him. Yeah, he scares me.

Speaker 4 I like that.

Speaker 1 He's one of those that knock your head off. But yeah, you could say DBs, but I want to put the who I want to put in there.

Speaker 1 I want to put your, yeah, your running back, full back. Running back, full back room in there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to have the crazy kicker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, yeah, I think the kicker got to be like a different type of crazy line.

Speaker 1 Delusional type crazy. Yeah, right.
Like, doesn't want to kill you. I I can kick this from 70s, 60s type crazy.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't even know what a goalpost is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Windy City.
What?

Speaker 1 I don't care about the wind. If it's going this way, I'm kicking.
So it's like that type of crazy. Yeah.
Like Janakowski. Yes.
Yeah. That's my guy.

Speaker 1 That's my guy.

Speaker 4 What was it like meeting him for the first time?

Speaker 1 Man, it was unique, man. I did not know.
I did not know what type of dude I was going to actually meet. I thought he was like an older guy, but

Speaker 1 Jenno was like super cool and laid back.

Speaker 1 And yeah, he'll have something to drink for you in the back of the plane

Speaker 1 if you wanted some. Talk to you about Poland.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 the oldest coach. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I remember they brought him out one time to try a 76-yard field goal going in a halftime.

Speaker 1 No, you made it.

Speaker 4 I don't think you made that one. I think that one landed like a little bit short, because like 76 yards,

Speaker 4 that's crazy long.

Speaker 1 Listen, that was the only kicker I knew that was built like a...

Speaker 1 I don't even know, like an old knock.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How far can you throw a football? I'd say maybe 67 yards. I heard that you have an unreal arm, but you, so you played quarterback when you were a kid and you thought you couldn't throw short passes?

Speaker 1 No, no. That's fake? Yeah, that's fake.
Yeah, I don't know what that's.

Speaker 1 You had a good touch? That's what I read.

Speaker 1 I could throw a decent ball.

Speaker 4 But, I mean, 67 yards, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Like, why aren't we using you in trick plays? I mean, we had a play in Chicago, man. I don't think we had a chance to run it.
It was like Santa's.

Speaker 1 Well, nah, Santa's reign. I think that was for Keem.
It was something, it was something like alone with a Christmas vibe with Naggy. Okay.

Speaker 1 But we never got the chance to run it. It was almost like the Derrick Henry play.
Okay, so you were going to get the button, you were going to get the coffee off and throw it? Yeah, jump and throw it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that would have been awesome. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Matt Nagy was like looking down his play sheet and said BU, and he was like, I can't call the fun play. I need that.
That's not me.

Speaker 1 I need that play. No, he definitely will call him, but we later on we went into situations where we can play around too much.

Speaker 4 Yeah, tell Coach Harbaugh put something in for you.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, I would hope so. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I feel like he would do it. So you're just getting to know him, obviously, because he's still a relatively new relationship with you guys here.
We love Coach Harbaugh.

Speaker 4 He's like a brutally honest guy. Oh, yeah.
And he's a football guy through and through.

Speaker 4 So I imagine that the two of you kind of get along. As a veteran, it seems like that's the kind of guy that you could identify or not identify, but be like,

Speaker 4 I respect this guy because I've been around the business long enough to know that you want a guy that will give me bad news or tell me I'm not doing something right and be direct with me.

Speaker 1 Absolutely, man. Absolutely.
And that's from top to bottom, man.

Speaker 1 You could tell whenever he speaks in front of the team, it's like he's going to, whatever is on that paper for him to talk about, he's not going to hold back from it.

Speaker 1 Whether somebody's late or somebody ain't doing whatever they're supposed to do, he's going to let it be known. And that's the directness and that's the footballness of who he is.

Speaker 4 He always says the human body craves contact, which I think is true. But maybe not like as a veteran, maybe you get back to training camp and you're like, I don't really miss training camp, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 for the lack of the lack of what? The lack of the meetings, but the game, the love of the game, man, I love coming out on the practice field.

Speaker 1 But talking about football all day and putting it in terms and all that, it's like, huh? I can do without that part. Let me do the fun part.
Let me go play on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So we had Dallas Goddard on last year, tight end for the Eagles, and he played at a small school, not like Buffalo. Buffalo

Speaker 1 plays in a real conference. They played North Dakota.
I appreciate that. That was my first time here.

Speaker 4 Something like that, yeah.

Speaker 1 And he told a story about how when he was playing against these guys, like, he would go out and the DBs would be like, can you take it easy on us because you're that much bigger and stronger?

Speaker 1 Did you ever have a moment like that in the Mac where maybe not take it easy on us, but it's like

Speaker 1 you're beating up the guys so bad. They're just like, this is this, I'm going to to be an accountant next year.

Speaker 1 I don't want to play against you anymore. Man, I had a weird moment.
I wouldn't say it was to that extent.

Speaker 1 It was definitely like a moment of like,

Speaker 1 what the fuck this dude was just saying? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was my

Speaker 1 University of Ohio. Ohio University.

Speaker 1 No, it's Ohio University. Ohio University, yeah.
Bobcats, yeah. The Bobcast, yeah.
Yeah. And so it was maybe like a guard or a tackle.
It's like, man,

Speaker 1 can we take a picture after the game?

Speaker 1 And I I feel like it might be like the second quarter at the time.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 4 He's trying to kill your cognition?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's weird. Yeah, yeah.
That was a weird moment. But other than that, I don't think I had too many.
Yeah. So it had to feel at times just like no one can stop me.
Oh, man. That was my mindset.

Speaker 1 That's been my mindset my whole career, man.

Speaker 1 Be a grown man amongst boys. Yeah.
Yeah. Me too.
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 So is it still that way? Like are there times when the game feels easy to you?

Speaker 1 Man, last year, man,

Speaker 1 it got a lot easier.

Speaker 1 Just switching my mindset, being around guys like Joey and my coach at the time, Giff Smith, just learning new things, learning new nuances and things to put into my game, it simplified it that much more.

Speaker 1 And that's where I feel like you can always get better. Either you're getting better or you're getting worse.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so we might be dumb because we watch the games

Speaker 4 on a couch on Sundays, which we watch all the games at the same time, which is hard to do. You've never done that before.
We do it every week.

Speaker 4 But we sit there, we watch, and then we come up with these theories. And we were watching the Chargers last year, and Brandon Staley, obviously, he liked to mix it up on fourth down on offense a lot.

Speaker 4 And at times, we were like, I don't know that I would like playing defense, even though he's a defensive coach.

Speaker 4 I don't know that I'd like playing defense in that system because you never know when you're going to get back out on the field.

Speaker 4 You don't get that much time to rest. Was that a conversation that you guys had with the coach?

Speaker 1 which is like let us let us take a break sometimes that's that's where the that's where the crazy and the delusion come in because um

Speaker 1 it was like man i'm riding i'm riding with you coach whatever you decide you know i'm saying i know the offense gonna convert on fourth down and if they don't it's another chance for us to go out there and kick their ass that's always been my mindset whether they turn the ball over or back it's another opportunity to go out there and kick their ass yeah and so that's where the delusion turns on when you're on the field that's where we're wired different

Speaker 1 yeah Future Hall of Fame NFL players, where we watch and we're like, dude, we just want to rest.

Speaker 4 If you're going to make me go out there, don't send me back out on the 35-yard. I'm going to give up a touchdown.
Yeah. Like, make them have to work for it.
Like, let some clock tick away here, Coach.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Oh, man.
Let us chill for a minute. That's funny, man.
Chilling seems fun.

Speaker 1 Well, Khleil, this has been awesome. I have one last question.
It's a Chevy.com question. Go to Chevy right now.
Chevy Silverado, best truck ever.

Speaker 1 You're not much on social media, right? No, no,

Speaker 1 so do you ever see like any like crazy fans like on social media for you, or is it ever weird you out?

Speaker 1 Weird in what sense? Like, is it like I searched, I was like trying to find the weirdest tweets, and I have a couple. I'm really, you could tell me if this is weird.

Speaker 1 Um, someone tweeted, I fucking love you, Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack is my whole life.
I die for Khalil Mack. Whoa, that's for the record.

Speaker 1 I don't want to die, but if Khalil Mack was like, hey, you have to die so that I can live, I'd do it. Like, that stuff's weird, right?

Speaker 1 It is weird. Really, yeah.
Those are all my tweets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love you.

Speaker 1 My God, Cat.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. I literally, if you had said in that 2018 season, I was expecting you to say that.
No, yeah. In 2018, if you were like, hey, big cat, you got to die so I can live.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, bullet in my head, no problem.

Speaker 1 Cocks you. I appreciate it, bro.
I appreciate the support, but that's funny. It's right or die.

Speaker 1 The one that says Khalil Mack is my whole life, that one is a little uncomfortable. I'll admit that.
Hand up. I got a few more things going on than just you.
I believe it, bro. I believe it.

Speaker 1 So do I, man. Damn,

Speaker 1 that's funny, man.

Speaker 4 But for the record, if somebody ever, God forbid, if you ever find yourself in a life or death situation, just tell them, hey, go kill Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Right. I'll take it.
I'll take it. Even though you're not on the Bears anymore, I'll still take it.
No, man. It's all love, man.
I appreciate it. I definitely appreciate you guys having having me on.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
This has been awesome, man. It's been a cool experience.
Yeah. We're excited for this season.
See what the Chargers do. And yeah,

Speaker 1 when you get into the Hall of Fame, I'll have to come to Canton. Maybe I'll introduce you.
Maybe I'll actually think about this.

Speaker 1 This would be the greatest Hall of Fame speech ever. I get up, and I'm like, I'm now presenting Khalil Mack, and then, boom, shoot myself in the head.
Oh, come on, bro.

Speaker 1 You're telling me that people wouldn't remember that? Most memorable Hall of Fame induction ever.

Speaker 4 Come on, I might get some blood on the gold jacket. It might not be good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we do a little cleanup. PFT will be there to clean it up.
I'll clean it up. And then I'll do the eulogy beforehand, before you're inducted.
It'll be a whole thing. It'd be great.

Speaker 4 I do have one last question for you because I read somewhere. I don't know if this is true or not.
I read that one of your favorite bands in the entire world is Hansen.

Speaker 1 Fuck no.

Speaker 1 People are just like, I bet you online.

Speaker 4 So it's not Hansen.

Speaker 1 No, why not? You say, why not? Yeah. I don't even know a hand.

Speaker 1 Is that the mmbab? Yeah, that's the only one. Sounds like you know it.
That might be the only song. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they got more songs? Yeah, but no, it's just mbop. Once I saw you remix, it was like Old Town Road.
It's been a minute. Okay.
It's been a minute. It's been a minute.

Speaker 1 I listened to it on purpose or just listened to it. Listen to it on purpose.
No, I don't think I listened to it on purpose.

Speaker 4 But you taught yourself guitar, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I tried, man,

Speaker 1 till my finger got stuck in somebody's hellman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, that thing is gnarly.

Speaker 1 Damn, you want me to go? You sound like

Speaker 1 Joey, you sound like Joey. Dude, that.

Speaker 4 Let me see your finger real quick.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That would actually be good for guitar.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hell no, it's not. I can't bar anything, bro.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, John Mayer played an entire concert without his index finger. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's John Mayer, bro.

Speaker 4 That's a tough motherfucker. That's a tough motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's grit.
That's grit. Hell yeah.
That's grit right there. Grit still dead.
All right. Well, Khalil, thank you so much.
We appreciate it, man. Huge fan.
No doubt, man. Thank you, man.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our grit week presented by Coors Light.
It is Executive Director of player performance for the Los Angeles Chargers, Coach Ben Herbert.

Speaker 1 Coach Herbs, can we call you Coach Herbs? Please, dude. Okay.

Speaker 6 Yeah, 99.99% of people, it's Herb or Coach Herbs.

Speaker 1 Okay, so love it. We got to start Grit Week off with the first question.
It's the easy question. How would you define grit?

Speaker 6 Your ability and willingness to do any and all things regardless of circumstance.

Speaker 4 That's a great answer.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, I love that word, and

Speaker 6 most importantly, what it represents to me.

Speaker 6 It's pretty clear. That's how I see it.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's concise. That's to the point.
Makes sense. How do you instill grit in somebody, or is it something that you have?

Speaker 6 You know what? I think

Speaker 6 certain people in their upbringing and their exposures in life get exposed to some things that require more of it and and nurture the development of it but I definitely believe it is something that can be developed through

Speaker 6 exposure

Speaker 6 and the best thing is it doesn't have to be like a

Speaker 6 like I just think daily exposure in small doses some days in you know bigger doses but just that repeated exposure you know and as someone's development of it you know starts to blossom and then for me you just re-encourage when you see it and you see guys display it or you see a group display it.

Speaker 6 And I love to just reinforce, like, that's what it looks like. That's great.
That's what it feels like. Please show me more of that.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's.
Are those the words you use?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Along those lines. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I got to say,

Speaker 1 I was doing a little research for this interview, and I watched a clip of Coach Harbaugh talking about the first time he met you and how he had to avert his gaze because you locked in and saw through his soul.

Speaker 1 So I was prepped for the handshake, but even prepping myself for the handshake, you gave me a look through my soul and I had to look away. So what is that? You just can look through someone's soul?

Speaker 1 No. You're doing it right now.

Speaker 1 I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 You're doing it right now.

Speaker 6 The key for me, eye contact is powerful. You know, I have two boys who are 10 and 13.
As soon as they could really comprehend, you know, shaking

Speaker 6 another man's hand or shaking anyone's hand for that matter. And in the eye contact, there's just something about the eyes.

Speaker 6 And when you're not accustomed to looking into someone's eyes when you communicate with them, it's very uncomfortable. Yeah.

Speaker 1 However,

Speaker 6 you can learn and you can develop that as well.

Speaker 6 And, you know, I always tell guys, I'm not interested in like trying to be this tough guy, like stare at you or, you know, but eye contact, I'm not interested in running away with my eyes.

Speaker 6 I can't move physically. Like I tell people, you can't move physically, but you'll go somewhere else with your eyes.
I prefer to just stay.

Speaker 1 We're just staring at each other right now.

Speaker 1 Periodically. You can look away if need be, you know, but yeah, it's just eye contact.

Speaker 6 It's just just something about it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm not, and I literally see it as I'm not interested in, I like to be right here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and stay there. Locked in.
Yeah, locked in. And Coach Harbaugh also called you his X Factor.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you started, we were talking beforehand. You're a Badger.
You went to Wisconsin. Where's that? Wisconsin, Arkansas, and then Michigan.

Speaker 1 What, like your career and learning all these things, being around football so much, like, do you think that you're an X Factor now?

Speaker 1 Are you feeling like, hey, I know how to do this better than anyone else at this point?

Speaker 6 No,

Speaker 6 that's the last thing that I think. Okay.

Speaker 6 It's an incredible honor for Coach to view me.

Speaker 6 the way that he does. But what I do know

Speaker 6 and what I've learned over time is, you know, what I do, like this moment, I'm right here, right now. And then I'll move on to the next moment.

Speaker 6 What I've done in the past, what I'm, I don't think or even, I don't let myself, what the future holds is irrelevant to me. Right here, right now, right.

Speaker 6 I'm going to, I'm going to do this to the best of my ability with you guys, right?

Speaker 6 And then move on to the next thing. I don't get caught up in you're the difference or you're the reason for greatness.

Speaker 6 A team was great or you're the reason that they were terrible or I've experienced all of those scenarios.

Speaker 6 I just I like humble and hungry, right? I'm gonna, coach hires me to do

Speaker 6 what I do and it's my responsibility to really just keep up with him. Yeah.
He's the tone setter. He's the tip of the spear.
It's easy to respect a guy that

Speaker 6 conducts his business the way he does. And that inspires me to just be sharp every day.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I knew you were the real deal when I was looking into like Big Cat, you know, do some research before we sat down.

Speaker 4 I looked at your social media, and it still lists you as the strength and conditioning coach of the University of Michigan. And from that moment, I was like, that's a guy that's locked in on his job.

Speaker 4 That's like, I don't care about social media. Forget that nonsense.
I'm right here right now. I don't think that you've tweeted since like 2017.
But again,

Speaker 4 that's the kind of guy that I want strengthening and conditioning my players. Have you thought about changing it?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I haven't.

Speaker 6 To be honest, you know, I got in

Speaker 6 when I went from Wisconsin, you know, we went back to back-to-back Big Ten championships.

Speaker 6 We went to Arkansas. And so you get accustomed to,

Speaker 6 you know, a lot of people saying a lot of positive things about, you know, we're big, strong, physical, all these, all these different things. And then we went three and nine that first year.

Speaker 6 And we were not labeled that. And I got encouraged to get involved with social media and engage and, you know, do these different things.

Speaker 6 And then it just took me on a roller coaster emotionally that I was like, you know what? I prefer to not be on this emotional roller coaster. So then I just disengaged.

Speaker 6 And now I, you know, people are like, Coach, you

Speaker 6 like, you live under a rock kind of, you don't, I have very little awareness of other, you know, things other than what people put in front of me. I just kind of stay in my own world, you know, here.

Speaker 6 You find me in the room.

Speaker 6 You find me at, you know, my current address. That's, that's about, that's about the extent of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I was, I was listening to a podcast that you did with the guys here, and they asked what you do in your like spare time for fun. And your initial answer was clean.

Speaker 1 You clean stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I, there's something about people that, that get it, there's people out there that they just enjoy, they enjoy doing that.

Speaker 6 I love taking something from, you know, if it's disorganized or messy, if it's mine, I'm not interested in doing it, doing it for you guys. Right.
But if it's mine, I just

Speaker 6 enjoy. I couldn't tell you why.

Speaker 1 Because since I've been from

Speaker 6 all of those things. And so I find myself when I, you know, it's just a peaceful place for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 I also heard that, so this new facility is incredible. Yeah.
Are you worried at all that it's too nice for what you want to do?

Speaker 6 No, what's funny is like you look, like if you go over, we got some plates and you'll find some rust.

Speaker 1 You'll find a little rust. Okay, good.

Speaker 6 You'll find a little rust here and there. But yeah, whether it's

Speaker 6 this

Speaker 6 or you know you could put us in i mean a back alley somewhere like we're gonna conduct our business the same way you know we're gonna train we're gonna do things how we do them yeah the environment yeah it's just a beautiful environment we take a lot of pride in that but no the work how we work the way we work the consistency we work with is that's going to take place regardless of where we are yeah because i heard you fell in love with a shop vac that you went to the store got a shop vac yeah and now you just want to shop vac everything which i understand.

Speaker 1 I felt

Speaker 1 a tool.

Speaker 6 It's the most versatile, it's the most versatile tool out there. You know, every

Speaker 6 time a guy that's been on my staff, like they become a homeowner, that's my favorite gift to give. It's a shop view.

Speaker 4 I had a similar experience with a power washer. You get a power washer, then all of a sudden you want to power wash everything.

Speaker 4 It's so satisfying. But yeah, like you said, there's like small feeling of accomplishment.
You feel like you've done something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm ready to move. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's, I mean, it's the shop vac is gritty.

Speaker 6 It is. Because you don't have to, like, like, you can, I mean,

Speaker 6 pretty much anything, you know, you can, you can suck up with a shop back.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 6 You could say I love the versatility and I love the grit factor of the shop. The shop back.

Speaker 1 No doubt. So, so, coming to the NFL, is it, how does your job change when you, you know, you've spent all this time in college, you're taking 17-year-old kids, building them into men.

Speaker 1 Now you got a bunch of men. Is it like, have you noticed that, hey, I got to approach this differently? Or is it, this is my system and we'll figure it it out going forward?

Speaker 6 Yeah, the biggest thing is it's a lot more similar than it is different.

Speaker 6 There are some nuances that are different.

Speaker 1 The maturity of the

Speaker 6 population you work with is obviously different, but the desire,

Speaker 6 guys coming into college as freshmen, guys are in college, you know, they, a high percentage of them, you know, they're hell-bent on getting better and improving.

Speaker 6 Exactly. Same here, you know, regardless, at least this roster, the guys that we have, regardless of how much money they make or we're not where they fall in that category,

Speaker 6 they want to get better.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 6 if you can help them do that,

Speaker 6 it's very important to them.

Speaker 6 They're very responsive to that. And the process, the system, the way we do things, our evaluation process, making sure, and I've told guys,

Speaker 6 this isn't come in, let's get a workout.

Speaker 6 Like, we're going to train. It's very different.

Speaker 6 And so, training is very intentional, what we're going to do, why we're going to do it.

Speaker 6 And being able to build that rapport and that relationship with these guys is of the utmost importance because they've been doing it. They have

Speaker 6 a lot of them have different experiences, you know, doing different things.

Speaker 6 But if you relate and communicate to them in the what I view as the appropriate way,

Speaker 6 they've been great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So as somebody that's in charge of building strength, when you go into every offseason, I assume that you tweak things, right? You always try to get better.

Speaker 6 You try to improve.

Speaker 4 How do you determine what's going to change year over year in a strength program? When maybe you've been there for a while, maybe you know what works.

Speaker 4 Like, how do you figure out, okay, this is a missing piece that we need to add on and incorporate next season?

Speaker 6 You know what? The unique thing is every year, you don't know necessarily until these opportunities present themselves what is going to be needed, right?

Speaker 6 Because each year there's different individuals that make up the team.

Speaker 6 The mentality and the makeup of the team,

Speaker 6 the culture, so to speak, the personality that the group has,

Speaker 6 it changes. And so if you're going to say, how are we going to improve the capability of the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder? There's a specific cuff sequence that we do.

Speaker 1 It's what we do.

Speaker 6 Where there's the most versatility is things that involve consistency, things that involve mentality, because there's certain things that certain individuals need and certain teams need that other teams didn't.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 6 And then it's always figuring out, you know, what range of motion and tissue and joint, you know, flexibility and mobility, strength and power, movement traits, that stuff's relatively easy.

Speaker 6 It's the things, those are all objective. We measure, we test,

Speaker 6 we measure, we test, right? The guys all have that data, but it's these other factors that play a significant role. The mentality, we talk about grit,

Speaker 6 consistency, all of these things play a significant role. And those are the things that change because

Speaker 6 when you have a group or a team that has

Speaker 6 that, you don't need as much of it, right? Things to help with that. And you have some teams that don't have that.
Hey, coach, what do we got today?

Speaker 6 Stop asking me that.

Speaker 6 Why do you care what we have?

Speaker 1 Right? Right.

Speaker 6 It doesn't matter what we have. The only thing that matters is how you're going to do

Speaker 6 what we have. Right.
You know, so these type of, that's one big cue. They start asking, like, what's the schedule? What are we doing?

Speaker 6 They want to know, oh, so you can prepare yourself for what's to come. Right.
And then I'll tell them the,

Speaker 6 I'll just make up

Speaker 6 just some random sequence that they, oh, okay, cool. Sounds good.
And then it's not that.

Speaker 1 In fact, it's the exact opposite.

Speaker 6 And then they, you, you can completely desensitize them. Right.

Speaker 1 And that's one of my, that's one of the, because that is a very natural thing when you're like, I'm about to do something that sucks. I want to know how bad it's going to suck.

Speaker 1 And then you can prepare yourself like, all right, I got to go hard here. I got to go a little softer here.
I got to go. That's smart that you keep them on their toes.

Speaker 1 You, you, in your introductory press conference here, I loved it. You said that we're not building strength.
We're making them harder to break. How do you make someone harder to break?

Speaker 1 Could you make us harder to break?

Speaker 6 A hundred percent. Yes.
Guaranteed.

Speaker 1 Because we break easy.

Speaker 6 Now, this is this is the key.

Speaker 6 And here's an exact way I, when the guys, when we talk through it, okay? So, and I referenced in my opening press conference, neck training.

Speaker 6 So in my opinion, when your neck is stronger in flexion, when you press forward or in extension, when you press back,

Speaker 6 and we side bend as well, when your neck neck is stronger

Speaker 6 and you strike something or get struck, in my opinion, you're going to be able to dissipate that force more effectively, which is going to decrease the likelihood of the brain coming in contact with the skull.

Speaker 6 Now, can it, and does it still happen? Yes, it does. But if I have the choice,

Speaker 6 oh, I'm going to go to great lengths to make sure. we are as effective as we can be at getting your neck strong in flexion and extension.

Speaker 6 Same thing with the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder. If you want a strong, stable shoulder, would you prefer all four were strong, three of the four, two, one, or none of them?

Speaker 6 So right away, okay, coach Herb, how are you going to make us harder to break? I'll take you in.

Speaker 6 I'll literally show you a neck sequence, teach it to you, let you feel it, take you through a four-part cuff sequence. You guys could do those

Speaker 6 things easily, and you could do them multiple times a week.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 6 you could be in

Speaker 6 multiple different situations where that could benefit you. Right.
And for the guys,

Speaker 6 things happen.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 6 when we look at what we're going to program and what we're going to administer to them, that's how I view

Speaker 6 making them and helping them become harder to break is making sure that certain areas of the body just are more equipped to tolerate stress better.

Speaker 1 We need you to make a harder-to-break for podcasters. So it's stuff like, can you eat, you know, 10 buffalo wings and then have a Dairy Queen Blizzard?

Speaker 1 Will your legs fall asleep when you're taking a shit? Like that, that, we need that type. Forget the neck.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 We just need, we need like, how loud can you scream at your mom when she comes down to the basement?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Not now recording.

Speaker 1 Can you watch football on six TVs at the same time? Yeah. Are we harder to break? That's what we need.
You need a program for you. You guys are out.
You're outside of my world. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think you're outside. I'd love to see you in our world for what you're hoping.
Oh, you would hate it. Disgusting.
You would hate it. Oh, my God.
You would hate it. So bad.

Speaker 4 You got a good point about the neck, though. I feel like woodpeckers, what do they do all day? They slam their head against a tree.
They got strong necks. They don't get CTE.

Speaker 4 They don't get concussions. They got the stabilizing muscles right there.
How long would

Speaker 4 a neck sequence for guys like us, how long would that take?

Speaker 6 To take you through a, we call it a four-part neck sequence, four-way next sequence. I mean, it'd probably take me two minutes, two and a half minutes to take you through it.

Speaker 1 To find out how weak we are?

Speaker 6 Well, I would know as soon as I put my hands, I would know.

Speaker 1 We're going to do that after this. Yes, yes.
And I would know.

Speaker 6 And then the key is: I'm only interested. I'm not going to give you more than you can handle.
There's no benefit to give you too much pressure. No good.
Too little.

Speaker 6 No good.

Speaker 6 I'm going to get full range, and you're going to work, right? I'm going to let you get the range that you need to get, but I'm going to make you earn it. And at the end, you'll go,

Speaker 6 I 100% guarantee you'll go, oh, that's what he's talking talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's, you'll love it. Okay.
We're going to do that after this. Yeah.
So the other thing, I love how you refer to it as cold water, but you love the ice ice bath. How long do you stay in?

Speaker 6 I just got asked this not too long ago,

Speaker 6 10 to 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 And what temperature?

Speaker 6 I don't care. It could be 39, 47, 52.

Speaker 1 You know, cold water.

Speaker 6 Yeah, whatever it is. Like, hey, hey,

Speaker 6 how cold is this?

Speaker 6 No, that's too cold or too, I'm going to get in it. I'm going to sit in there, you know, up to my neck for 10 to 15 minutes.

Speaker 6 And the first four to five, I'm in there.

Speaker 6 Just you, we say the three of us are in there.

Speaker 6 And I'd say, hey, you just get to the six, seven minute mark, and everything starts to numb out. And then you got another, you know, however long we decide to stay in there.

Speaker 6 But then it's, you know, you're thawed out or excuse me, you're numb. So,

Speaker 6 yeah. And then I always say, then get out, put a hoodie and some sweats on, let your body just thaw out naturally, and then shower after.

Speaker 1 I think you would have survived the Titanic. That's

Speaker 4 a very long amount of time. Like, just sit in there six minutes until you get numb, and then you won't feel it anymore.

Speaker 4 I got to try the cold tub situation, but I heard it increases a bunch of stuff in your body. It increases like all the good stuff, all the good brain.

Speaker 4 I don't even know what they call them, but it gives you like the serotonin, the dopamine or whatever. But you do it, I'm guessing, primarily for like inflammation stuff.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and I said, you know, when I got asked about it last time, just joints

Speaker 6 makes my joints feel incredible. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then if you ever want, I was talking to one of the players about it the other day.

Speaker 6 If you want to, and you guys may already know this, if you've ever just jumped in cold water, like sitting in it, get in, just sit in it for, you know, just a few seconds and then get out, that's one thing you want to wake up, and it's all based on the sensory receptors, the amount of sensory receptors you have in your head.

Speaker 6 When you get in, you drop under,

Speaker 1 you come out,

Speaker 6 you it's instant.

Speaker 6 You want an instant wake-up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Are you allowed to eat in the cold tub? You could eat, drink, and you want to eat it.
Okay, yeah,

Speaker 10 just get in and relax.

Speaker 1 Use cold water.

Speaker 1 Let's do it.

Speaker 4 I'll have a nice like soup dinner, hot soup in the cold tub. Yeah.
Warming from the inside out.

Speaker 6 One of my favorite pictures ever,

Speaker 6 and I texted them after I saw it, JJ and TJ

Speaker 6 had cut a hole, you know, and they're sitting in their pond

Speaker 6 in the ice, like,

Speaker 6 just, you know, just hanging out.

Speaker 4 Do it first thing in the morning instead of a shower, just cold, just cold water wakes you right up.

Speaker 6 Cold. I don't prefer it first thing in the morning.

Speaker 6 But if you, yeah, you get in, if you took a, you could even start hot and then just the last, say, 60 seconds or 20 seconds before you get out, turn that thing to cold.

Speaker 6 And you'll, oh, it'll, it'll bring you to life real quick.

Speaker 4 What time are you waking up these days?

Speaker 6 It depends on the day. I love, this is another thing.
They said, what do you love to do? I love to sleep. I don't know if you've ever met someone that enjoys sleeping more than I do.

Speaker 6 However, for 25 years, I usually will get up between three and five. That's insane.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. What time do you go to sleep?

Speaker 6 Usually 8.30, 9, 9.30. Now, some nights, you know, if we're, you know, we're going to, I'm going to hang out, you know, with my wife and boys a little bit.
Clean some stuff.

Speaker 1 Take the shop back out. Go crazy.
But

Speaker 6 I've never enjoyed waking up early. I love to sleep.
And when I get downtime, I'll sleep as long as I can. Yeah.
But

Speaker 1 once I get rolling, then it's good.

Speaker 6 But I wake up when the day, you know, based on what the daily demands are.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So if you wake up at three in the morning and you don't like to wake up early that's like you're you're instilling grit every single day a hundred percent and I say you know how there's there's people that

Speaker 6 put their feet on the ground in the morning and they're like I'm ready to have a great day today yeah that's not me yeah yeah I wake up and it's like how much coffee no coffee first thing I do is get in the shower cold hot to start and then I'll usually finish not always but I'll finish with a you know 10 to 15 second little cold burst yeah wake you up yeah yeah so what do you do between the hours of like 3:30 and 6 or 6.30 when everyone else gets to work?

Speaker 6 Well, so it depends on what the day brings. You know, what time, if we have a staff meeting or what time we're going to train.

Speaker 6 Usually, because of classes in college, there is you have an early morning training session or multiple because of the class demands.

Speaker 6 Here it's different, but whatever,

Speaker 6 you know, whatever it may be that needs to be done

Speaker 1 that's what we're doing yeah so when you're uh watching your team out there do you get extra pride out of like watching them run the football like i'm thinking even it's incredible michigan versus penn state this year incredible one pass in the second half is that like is that just the pinnacle for you watching them just absolutely beat down another team physically there's there's no better feeling

Speaker 6 it's

Speaker 6 it's incredible and and i would prefer like those type of scenarios,

Speaker 6 it's incredible. And I learned it at Wisconsin.
You know, when I got there as a player and what we took pride in doing, and then it really became instilled in me to run and pound a rock.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 it's amazing.

Speaker 1 Take the will of the other team. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was, and to do it, you know, like we did it this year, especially that Penn State game. Yeah.
It was

Speaker 6 no better feeling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a match made in heaven with Harbaugh because he has famous times. I think there was the Stanford,

Speaker 1 was it Stanford versus Oklahoma State in a bowl game, and he ran the same run play like 13 times in a row down the field? It's just like you can't stop it. That has to be the best.

Speaker 1 That's like the peak of just like man football. Yeah.

Speaker 6 As I see it, I love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's great. And there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Has that ever happened against a team that you've been associated with?

Speaker 6 Where it was happening to me?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. Wisconsin versus Michigan in 2019, maybe, in Camp Randall.

Speaker 1 That was a big one. Yes.
Yeah. That did not feel good.

Speaker 1 That did not feel good.

Speaker 6 That did not feel good. Yeah.
Those, what I take from those,

Speaker 6 it makes you feel certain. What it does is it inspires you to

Speaker 6 get back to work.

Speaker 6 You know, and that's why I say humble.

Speaker 6 It's.

Speaker 6 I've been on both sides of it. And I prefer, fortunately, I've been on the good side a lot more than the bad side.
But I know how both sides feel. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I noticed that one of your favorite pieces of workout equipment is just big tires. You buy a lot of big tires.
What is it about tires? Like tire flipping, tire pulling?

Speaker 4 What is about tires that make them such a great piece of workout equipment?

Speaker 6 So it used to be the tire.

Speaker 6 And I had the most insane collection of tires. We named them.

Speaker 6 We had the most insane collection of tires. I mean, 15 different sizes and shapes.

Speaker 1 Now we have

Speaker 6 finisher flip sleds. The beauty of the finisher flip sled is the position that it puts the guys, their lower back in, and you don't have to grab it here.

Speaker 6 You can grab it in this way, and it stresses the bicep differently. So, posturally, it puts them in a better position.
But your ability to get triple extension and to develop strength and power,

Speaker 6 that is my new

Speaker 1 yeah. I don't even

Speaker 6 you could, it's similar to a tire flip, but it's I wouldn't even

Speaker 6 disrespect the flip sled by saying it's that. It's it's its own beast, and it's one of, if not my favorite tools.
That thing is insane.

Speaker 6 That's another thing you guys, I'll teach you how to use to finish a flip sled. Yeah, incredible tool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so how would you go about naming your tires?

Speaker 1 Kind of glossed over that one. Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 6 Just my staff, we would just look at the tire, and that looks like,

Speaker 6 and we would just throw names out there and then give it, you know what I mean, bat around. No.

Speaker 1 And we, yeah, we literally

Speaker 6 would just go down the line and really just banter back and forth about what we thought would be the best name.

Speaker 1 Just dude's name and tires. Yeah.

Speaker 6 What's it look like? And again, that's where we would go with.

Speaker 1 What about having the plates, everything perfect? What's that about? Where you said that in your introductory press conference?

Speaker 1 Every plate is going to be exactly where it needs to be, nothing just like laying around. Is that just a mentality of you got to take care of your surroundings?

Speaker 6 It's just how

Speaker 6 it's that. It's also just how we practice attention to detail.
And it often, sometimes people don't,

Speaker 6 it's not going to directly correlate and guarantee you're going to be successful. But what it is an effective tool to me is practicing your attention to detail.

Speaker 6 You want your footwork to be a certain way. You want when you strike something, right? All these things in your, in your game, you know,

Speaker 6 there's so many different details that matter. It's just how we practice attention to detail.
I, I just, little

Speaker 6 cues that I'll use. One, I take tremendous pride in the space.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I, you know, I like things neat and clean. So that just is what it is.

Speaker 6 But in terms of when you watch how we train, when I teach you guys, when we do the neck, or I teach you posturally, I don't want you, I'm not going to put your lower back in a bad position or allow you to do it in a way that's going to hurt you.

Speaker 6 Right. Right.

Speaker 6 So these details details and how you execute all of these things are paramount because if technically, if you're not sound technically, in my opinion, then you increase the likelihood of injury in a training environment.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 it's just the detail. And then how do we practice it? And that's just, that goes hand in hand with just the respect we have for the space, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Do the little things right. The big things take care of themselves, that sort of thing.

Speaker 6 Along those lines. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So who is the, you've coached a lot of really strong players, players, and they've become strong as you've coached them. Who's the strongest guy you've ever worked with?

Speaker 6 The key is strongest in what?

Speaker 6 Because, so if you said Turkish get up,

Speaker 6 if you guys know what a Turkish get-up is, okay.

Speaker 6 And I describe that to the guys as it's a movement that challenges and stimulates the body from the tip of the finger when your arms extended, from the tip of your finger to the tip of your toes.

Speaker 1 It's holding a bar and

Speaker 1 being down in the dumbbell. It could be a bar.
And standing up with it over your head, right?

Speaker 6 Standing up with it and then coming down with it as well. Chris Jenkins, D-Tackle at Michigan, did it with 170-pound dumbbell, and it was silky smooth.
I mean, it was incredible.

Speaker 6 You can see when a guy's out of control,

Speaker 6 and you can see when he's rock solid. Aiden Hutchinson did it with, he had a bar and he had 45-pound plates on each side with no collar.

Speaker 6 Because if the wrist, it's doing it with two and a half on each side is one thing. Okay, if the plate slides off,

Speaker 6 if it's not perfectly stable, if the plate slides off,

Speaker 6 big deal. They can still stabilize it.
If a 45-pound plate slides off one end,

Speaker 6 the other side, it's going the wrong way quickly. So the demand, I don't like things that are high reward and high risk.
My favorite things are things that are high reward, low to no risk.

Speaker 6 However, there's a sliding scale with every movement I choose for the guys.

Speaker 6 But when Hutch was getting ready to do that, he literally started with a bar, then a bar and two and a half on each side, fives, and he worked his way up.

Speaker 6 I knew that if I captured that, you know,

Speaker 6 it would just give him, it's another feather in his cap of what a freak show he was and what a freak show he is. Chris Jenkins,

Speaker 6 that, you know, Mozzie Smith,

Speaker 6 he took 325.

Speaker 6 I mean, he hit it for 20 reps.

Speaker 6 He went up the plyo stairs. We had Kenneth Grant, 360-pound D-tackle that ran down that back from Penn State.

Speaker 6 He went up to, we had the plyo stairs at Michigan. He went up at 360 pounds.
He went up those in like 279,

Speaker 6 2.79 seconds.

Speaker 6 Lower body, Travis Frederick

Speaker 6 played center for us at Wisconsin. Incredible.

Speaker 6 And you could go on down the line, you know, the things that you see guys do over the years. Yeah.
But those are some of them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you, a couple of Wisconsin questions. One,

Speaker 1 the TCU Rose Bowl game, was there any talk afterwards we should have run John Clay more?

Speaker 6 That one hurt. Yeah, that one hurt.
That one hurt.

Speaker 1 I was sitting right in the sideline where the two-point conversion failed. Yeah.
That was bad. John Clay was a beast that second half.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Beast. You know what? I can't remember what the post-game conversations were or weren't, but

Speaker 6 yeah, I mean, when we gave him the ball,

Speaker 6 it usually worked out well for us. Truck Truck people.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 1 Russ did spike the ball in time, you'd agree, against Oregon.

Speaker 6 In my opinion. Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 And then, was there any talk when you left Wisconsin for Arkansas?

Speaker 1 Was there any conversation about like we're running out of Watt brothers and there's no more coming?

Speaker 1 We got to get out of here before.

Speaker 1 You know what? I had JJ.

Speaker 6 I had Derek. And, you know, over the years, you know, I see TJ here and there.

Speaker 6 Unfortunately, never got to coach him, but yeah, then he came after I had left. And then, yeah, you wish there was

Speaker 6 just keep going.

Speaker 1 You thought for a while there was like every year there's gonna be another Watt brother. We're good.

Speaker 6 No doubt. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Talk to mom and dad, like, hey, maybe get back in the bedroom.

Speaker 4 Think about the future of the football team.

Speaker 1 We just need all their kids to go to Wisconsin. That's all I care about.
Would be amazing. Sign them up.

Speaker 4 I got a real scientific question for you. What is the best lifting music?

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 6 Ooh, see. Now, this is where

Speaker 6 when it comes to music, I usually it's the vibe of the guys. Fortunately for me, we could put,

Speaker 6 there's, I mean, you could put anything on there.

Speaker 6 I love old school, like you throw the Rocky 4 soundtrack on. And, you know,

Speaker 6 that's a go-to. But it can be Metallica.
It can be heavy metal. It can be any type of hip-hop.

Speaker 6 Whatever the guys are feeling and they're going to vibe to.

Speaker 1 That's what it is.

Speaker 6 Some days, and it's all over the map. Fortunately, I love it all, and I've heard it all.
25 years spent in a weight room. I've heard everything, and I fortunately enjoy everything.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you ever raw dog in the gym? You go in there, no music, no headphones?

Speaker 6 There's days, no music,

Speaker 6 and I'm just looking for someone to be like, Hey, Coach R, where's the music? And I go,

Speaker 6 Oh, you need the music?

Speaker 6 Or, or we'll play, we've played Barney,

Speaker 6 And some guys are so focused on the music, they stop worrying about the music and worry about, you know, those, those are some of the

Speaker 6 some of those tools too, from a mentality standpoint.

Speaker 4 There's no music in waiting for the first guy to ask you where the music is.

Speaker 6 Some days we'll take a horn and it just

Speaker 6 repeatedly.

Speaker 6 And they're so like, what?

Speaker 6 Hey, you know, just stop, stop focusing on, get them to focus on the wrong thing. Yeah, here's, and they will be, they do become desensitized, I promise you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, here's where you're working with when you're talking to us in terms of grit level.

Speaker 4 There have been times I've gone to the gym, realized I forgot my headphones, and then I'm like, well, I can't work out today. And then I just leave.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You'd be disgusted by this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not. Yeah, you would be disgusted.

Speaker 1 We have grit in

Speaker 1 certain facets, you know, doing our job, but in terms of like working out, we don't have a lot of grit.

Speaker 6 So we need that. and it's not all created equal i mean you

Speaker 6 to do your job is the most important so whatever you have to do right to get yourself where you need to be yeah

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 i'm not

Speaker 6 like i'm in a working environment my level of urgency is very high however when i leave i tell the guys when i leave i'm i'm one of the most chill laid back you know what i mean just because

Speaker 6 what do I need urgency for when we're you know

Speaker 8 just hanging out Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's just, you have to time it appropriately. And like you said, when we're working, we have it, which that's when you need it.

Speaker 6 And when you're not working, you know, there's, you can be selective in a workout. You don't have your headphones.
You don't feel like training.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 That's a lot different than you don't feel like doing a show. You got to get your mind right.
You're going to get your mind right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't miss shows. That's a fact.

Speaker 4 I broke my foot. I did a podcast that day.

Speaker 1 Big Cat got hit by a dog.

Speaker 1 My pinky did a podcast. There you go.
No problem.

Speaker 1 Right through it. That's grit.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That is grit.

Speaker 4 People calling dog bite that day. They'd be like, can't do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Raby shots.

Speaker 1 We got that grit. All right.
Well, Coach Herbs, this has been awesome. I got one last question.
Chevy question.

Speaker 1 Chevy.com. Go check it out.
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Speaker 1 Coach Harbaugh, who we love, we're good friends with, do you train him? Does he ask you, like, hey, Coach Herbs,

Speaker 1 I need a formula. You need to give me everything.
Are you actively training him still?

Speaker 6 Coach Harbaugh does not act. Coach Harbaugh just walks into the room and he's ready to train.
You know it. Coach, you ready to roll?

Speaker 6 He does not ever, never.

Speaker 6 What are we doing today? How much?

Speaker 6 He just goes and he attacks and he does everything that the guys, I mean, he sled drags. He flips sleds.

Speaker 6 He does it all. He reverse bear crawls like we had a ramp at Michigan.
He would reverse bear crawl.

Speaker 1 All of it.

Speaker 6 Eats it up. I love that.

Speaker 1 Eats it up. I love that.
And he does it all in his khakis, right?

Speaker 6 A lot of times. Whatever he walks into weight room, whatever he

Speaker 6 shows up wearing, that's what he trains in. Yeah.
He's like, hey, I got to go and change. And no, he just, coach, you ready to roll? And he'll give you that nod, you know? Yep.

Speaker 6 And then he just, yeah, he's

Speaker 6 the grittiest. Yeah, he's of the gritty.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 When you first interviewed with him, did you know during the interview, you're like, I can work with this guy. This is going really well.

Speaker 6 You know what? When he decided that, you know, he brought me into Michigan to interview, and then I just,

Speaker 6 I hadn't met Coach or been around him. So I did a little background.

Speaker 6 And then you just, some of the stories and some of the things you hear, and then some of the people that had called me, hey, you know, you're going to Michigan, Coach, and then just these things you hear.

Speaker 6 I came to realize quick, like, the type of mentality, you know, that he had.

Speaker 6 And that's, that's why, I mean, it was, it was the perfect fit. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's worked out well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm pumped just listening to you talk. I, I, I kind of want to just move out here and have you train me, but it wouldn't go well.
I'd break in a second. Actually, we might break you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You maybe. If you spent one day with us, we would probably break your will.
You'd be like, I got to get out of here. This is terrible.

Speaker 4 These guys are too easy to break.

Speaker 1 I'm broken. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They've been sitting on the couch for so long. But yeah, that's uh, it's it was awesome to have you on.
Yeah, I appreciate it. Best of luck this year, X Factor, and let's do this neck test.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Let's do it.
All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1 The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good. Okay.
Great job, Huey. Great job, Huey.
Let's get to Fire Fest of the week, wrap up the show.

Speaker 1 PFT, your Fire Fest of the Week.

Speaker 4 My Fire Fest of the Week is fantasy football related. We are in a fantasy league.
It's C.J. McCollum's, he calls it it the High Rollers League.
And Jerry O'Connell manages our team every year.

Speaker 4 But in years past, I've kind of been the one that's on the group chat with the league. And then I text Jerry on the side and I tell him what's happening.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. This year, I decided it's time to have Jerry in the mix.
Oh, no.

Speaker 4 So yesterday, I had a Jerry O'Connell to the fantasy football group chat.

Speaker 4 CJ McCollum, Turtle from Entourage, Julius Randle. There's a few others that I'm not naming right now.

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 4 it was like throwing a bomb into that group chat. Yeah, I would imagine.
So I brought him in there, added his number.

Speaker 4 First thing that happens, Jerry texts them. And I'm not going to be reading things out of the group chat.
I'm not going to make a habit out of reading things out of the group chat. But for the intro,

Speaker 4 I think this deserves a little bit of discussion.

Speaker 4 Jerry just comes out and says, Hey guys, Jerry O'Connell here.

Speaker 4 And the group chat turned green.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. He's got a

Speaker 4 Android.

Speaker 4 Out of the 12 people that were in there, he was the first non-iPhone user.

Speaker 1 Oh, he ruined it.

Speaker 4 And then everybody started commenting how he turned the chat green.

Speaker 4 And they were booing him, and it was a tough start.

Speaker 4 And then Jerry says, hey, everybody, Jerry with the Android. I came in second two years ago when DeMar went down.
Prayers for DeMar and also Ukraine.

Speaker 4 And then nobody responded. And then Jerry, like two hours later, says, hey, fellas, just so you can get to know me, here's a link to my IMDB.

Speaker 4 And then he posted a link to his own IMDb in the group chat. And he said, go ahead, ask me anything.
And

Speaker 4 nobody really replied. I think Turtle said Mr.
Bing Bong back to him. Okay.
And then Jerry said, yeah, Mr. Bing Bong, I don't know anyone on this feed.

Speaker 4 Anyone from the mainstream media on here just wants to know how raw I can get.

Speaker 4 And then no one's responded to that.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 I've really mixed up the, I've mixed things up. You know, Jerry, he's going to add some excitement to the fancy group chat.
He's coming in hot.

Speaker 4 I expect nothing less from Jerry.

Speaker 4 But we have to have him on to talk us through what a strategy is going to be. Last year, it didn't work out so well.

Speaker 1 Turning a group chat green is just unforgivable.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so now obviously I'm to blame for doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jerry, get a fucking iPhone, dude.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the group chat, but I think you'll enjoy having Jerry in there.
Give him a chance. Yeah.
Jeez. Now, I'm pretty sure they started a second

Speaker 4 just minus.

Speaker 1 Now, Jerry, yeah. Jerry's going to be coming into Chicago last week of August, so we get our full fantasy preview.
Very excited for that.

Speaker 4 I hope that this just turns into Jerry, just talking to the guys and nobody ever responding. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Honestly, like, this is mental warfare on our part.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We haven't one years past. Jerry's kind of, he's knocking them off balance right now.

Speaker 1 He's going to get them to a point where they're just going to want to

Speaker 1 do whatever trade with Jerry, just get him off your back.

Speaker 4 It's kind of like negotiating against Marlinsman.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Marlinsman has sent me some updates recently.

Speaker 4 How's with his schedule?

Speaker 1 He's doing great. Well, I'll tell you.
How are his cats? Let me tell you.

Speaker 4 Okay. I feel like we haven't gotten a Marlinsman cat update in a while.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Let's see.

Speaker 1 All right. Last text from Marlin Mann.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm going tonight to Chicago for Sunday Night Baseball. I think last one with no football or hockey or basketball.
That was when we were in Grit Week.

Speaker 1 And then he just sent me eight eight cities in two days, Seattle, Newark, Albany, Saratoga Springs, Boston yesterday, Boston and New York to Milwaukee to Chicago today.

Speaker 4 So when he says Newark in there, is he just talking about the airport?

Speaker 1 I think so. And then yesterday I did not open this.

Speaker 1 It was just

Speaker 1 an Instagram reel of,

Speaker 1 oh, I think it's just Manny's Deli in Chicago. That's cool.
Yeah, I mean, I know the place. Oh, no, it's Mensch's Delicatessen.
So it's just a bunch of sandwiches.

Speaker 1 Which, credit to him because usually when you open up an Instagram reel, it could just be titties.

Speaker 4 It usually is. Yeah.
Especially with Jerry. With Jerry or Marlins.

Speaker 1 Yes. We should put them on a chat together.
And they're both Android.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes.
I like that. Wow.
Also, Marlins, man, please, for the love of God, we need an update on your cats. I want to know how your giant cats are doing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let us know about those pussies.

Speaker 1 Okay, My Fire Fest. I have two.

Speaker 7 One.

Speaker 1 I hate that I'm going to say this because,

Speaker 1 well, he's probably not going to listen.

Speaker 1 I do miss Hank every time he's out as much as we give him shit i do like that is it's empty right now it's also it comes from a place of jealousy that hank has gotten to do so much cool stuff this summer well i don't know if i'd count this as he's ringing a bell yeah but he loves that fucking lighthouse yeah i just i miss him i miss him so i hope he doesn't hear this part that i genuinely miss him whenever he's out i miss him i i think he did not bad in mount rushmore today actually

Speaker 1 uh yeah i think movie quotes yeah i think he did not bad um yeah it's gonna gonna be a fight. We have six left after uh today.

Speaker 4 And congrats to Max for you. Congrats on Max, you clinched.
Good job, Max.

Speaker 4 You didn't clinch first, right? But you clinched not last.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and that's what's important.

Speaker 9 Donnie's making meatballs right now, and he keeps telling me to come eat them.

Speaker 8 That's my fire fest.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a good fire fest. We'll wrap up soon.
My other fire fest is my wife and oldest were out of town for a couple days, and so I was in charge of the two youngest.

Speaker 1 And I did okay, but I quickly realized that, like,

Speaker 1 I have these moments where I'm like, oh, I'm an adult. I'm clean.
I'm not like I used to be. One, my house just went right back to like my college apartment.

Speaker 1 There was just shit everywhere, boxes everywhere, just not opening the. She came home and she was just like, did you check the mail? And I was like, ah, mail.
That's the one.

Speaker 4 Came in with like a huge stack.

Speaker 1 And then there was one night where I was doing dinner with my two youngest and halfway through dinner, I realized that I just had them both eating off paper towels and I had just not given them plates.

Speaker 1 That worked. So, yeah, that was one of those moments you're like, dude, what are you doing? Just get the fucking plates out.
But spin zone.

Speaker 4 That's how I eat.

Speaker 1 I eat over the sink. I eat over the trash.

Speaker 4 But spin zone, some of the most memorable times of my childhood bonding with my dad were when my mom would leave town and then she'd come back. And that, like, those two hours before she got,

Speaker 4 we would all spend time just like undoing all the damage that we did to the house before she got back. And it was fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we ran, we ran, we ran

Speaker 1 the same play. We ran chicken nuggets, mac and cheese.
Yeah. chicken nuggets, mac and cheese.
Run it again. Yeah, it just basically was like, do it again, do it again.
Uh, okay, Huey,

Speaker 1 Max needs these meatballs real bad. No, Donnie just Donnie just gave me a plate.
Oh, he did. Okay, one bite repeat.

Speaker 4 Are you holding the meatballs right now?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't give me a fork, which is just use your hand.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just dive in there.

Speaker 4 What do you think, Max?

Speaker 1 Really good meatball.

Speaker 1 Really good. Oh, that's so gross.

Speaker 4 It's a nasty sound.

Speaker 4 It sounds juicy, though.

Speaker 1 Smells great. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest. So I got a new place.

Speaker 1 It's a walking distance from work. Everything is great.
Love it.

Speaker 1 So the roommates are a little interesting.

Speaker 1 And so the one guy, very nice, showed me around the place. I think his name is Elio.

Speaker 1 Eli. Something like that.
Eli or Elio? Elio. Yeah.
It was like the E. He just call me.
Big E. Yeah.
He's smaller than me. Yeah, but that's funny.
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Big E.
Yeah. I'll try it.

Speaker 1 We'll try it. Okay.
And then, so he's a great guy. Awesome.
The other guy

Speaker 1 didn't say a word when I walked by him in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 I had a little, I had to grab a Pepsi Zero Sugar. And I went in there.

Speaker 1 I was going to say hi to him. But then we looked at each other and he didn't say anything.
So that's

Speaker 1 in your kitchen apartment. Yeah, so that that scared me, and I was like, I'm not going to say anything.
So, then I just got my stuff and I left. Do you guys sure walk down the house?

Speaker 4 Are you sure? Kitchen and a living room?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And he has a cat?

Speaker 1 No. Oh.
Where'd that come from? I don't know. I thought I saw something about a cat or a dog in your apartment.
Yo, there's a chick who lives upstairs. Okay.
Different apartment with a dog.

Speaker 1 But what happened was that our front doors are the same. So like, oh, it's like a hallway.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So, so she was coming down as I was coming in.

Speaker 1 So that confused me as I, as, like, you know, what's going on here? But that's a different apartment, her and whoever. How was the dog? Did you pet the dog? I did meet the dog.
Nice dog.

Speaker 1 Very nice dog. Yeah, very nice dog.
I can't have another mash. No, I bet it.
It came up to me. I bet, you know.
What kind of dog? It was a pit bull. Oh, nice.
Yeah. What was the name of the dog?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I didn't.
You got to get the name of this dog. I don't know.
I don't even know the girl.

Speaker 4 Because, well, if you find out the dog's name, then you just say hi to the dog every time she and the dog walk past. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Never acknowledge her. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
All right. So this other guy, you've got a roommate that you stood in a kitchen, your kitchen together, and did not say a single word.

Speaker 1 It was three seconds. I mean, now you can never talk to him.
No.

Speaker 1 That was the moment. That was it.

Speaker 1 You could never stay.

Speaker 1 He was cooking and watching a show at the time. What show? Okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't stay around that. It looked like something that was more live than an actual setting.
It looked like a sporting event live. But it wasn't like,

Speaker 1 it felt out of a gainy revibe. It didn't have a TV show vibe.
You watched sports.

Speaker 4 No, I... Did it look like sports?

Speaker 1 It didn't look like American sports. God, it.

Speaker 1 That's what threw me off. So I just assumed.
Is this person American? No. Okay.
So that's why. So I know they don't speak English.
So I heard them on the phone. And? They speak fluent English.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. As fluent as could be.
It's smart to say they get to break.

Speaker 4 But if you walk past and you don't know... Like, if they're watching something live,

Speaker 4 you don't talk to them, that's kind of a good move. Maybe he didn't want to be interrupted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I think I played it right, but I also don't know if I did it.

Speaker 4 You got to wait till he wears some sort of sports merchandise, like a hat of a team or a shirt of a team, and then you strike up the conversation.

Speaker 1 Also, just to clarify, you did not play it right,

Speaker 1 but playing it right from here on out means you can never speak to them. What about Eli? Eli, you can.
Okay, cool. But if you miss the first moment to talk to a roommate in a kitchen, it's over.

Speaker 1 That's fair. That's what it felt like.
It's over. That's what it felt like.
That moment is gone.

Speaker 4 He missed the opportunity to talk to you, though. Yeah, think about it that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's that's what I like to see it as.

Speaker 4 He's probably on a podcast right now saying I think I screwed things up with my new roommate, Huey.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine? Yeah, but I also have my own bathroom, so I don't have to

Speaker 1 fix you, fancy boy. Yeah, Eli told me I had the nicest room.
Oh, so he says that to everybody. Sounds like a real straight shooter.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I mean, so I don't have to, I really don't have to even like try to interact.

Speaker 1 But yesterday, I was doing laundry and twice where like the second i closed my door in of my room i heard a door of the other room open oh

Speaker 1 that made me think oh he just does it

Speaker 1 he doesn't want anything to do with you yeah it's probably for the best you don't know him yeah it sounds like he's he's sending some pretty strong signals yeah like hey i'm doing my own thing over here that happens i don't want any part of this that happens in work like when we got uh when we got bigger and bigger as a company like if you see someone and it's like the first time you see them and you don't talk to them like that's it yeah you know like you're just it's just that's it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Until someone maybe formally introduces you, but you just miss that moment.
Or if you see somebody, then you don't want to be the guy who's like, hey, do you live here? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, dude, you know, I live here. You saw me yesterday.
You didn't say anything.

Speaker 4 If you see somebody at work and you say, hey, are you new here? And they're like, no, I've been here three months.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't risk that. Yeah.
You can't risk that.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Let's do some

Speaker 1 numbers.

Speaker 8 Eight. 20.

Speaker 1 56. 74.
Did you want me to say 20 today? I wanted wanted you to say whatever you wanted to say. Can you save me one of those meatballs? Yep.

Speaker 1 3.

Speaker 4 99, Pug.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 9 Is that 99? Yep.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Pog damn it, Pug.
You champion.

Speaker 1 The guy just does it. That's all he does.

Speaker 1 That's five. That's five.
That's five? Oh, my God, Pug. You are the champion.
Max, have you thought about maybe stealing Pug's number?

Speaker 4 Pug did offer it up last night.

Speaker 1 Oh, you offered it to him. I've offered it to Max several times.
Oh, no, Max.

Speaker 9 That should be offered to PFT since he's never gotten the number.

Speaker 1 No, you've never gotten the lottery ball. He's never gotten the number.

Speaker 8 I've gotten the number.

Speaker 9 PFT hasn't gotten anything.

Speaker 1 We're talking about the lottery ball.

Speaker 4 I can't.

Speaker 1 We're talking about the lottery ball. Pug has my headphones.
Pug, you offered that to him last night and he declined?

Speaker 4 It's been offered several times.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 If Pug had offered me. Offer it to PFT.
Not a one.

Speaker 9 Offer it to him.

Speaker 4 PFT. Would you like 99?

Speaker 1 Pug?

Speaker 4 You're goddamn right I would. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're fucking right. I want 99.
Pug's just going to win with another number. Yeah, he will.
Pug, do you want 20?

Speaker 1 I might just switch to 98. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just go down the wall. I'll work my way down.
Yeah, you're goddamn right I want 99. 99 is hot.
Hell yes.

Speaker 4 Actually, Pug might just be hot.

Speaker 1 Let's do one more.

Speaker 1 This three.

Speaker 1 This counts. 99.
Pug. 56.

Speaker 1 72.

Speaker 1 98. Pug.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 9 He's going to get it again.

Speaker 1 Seven.

Speaker 1 Damn. Can you imagine if that was eight? That would have been brutal.
Oh, God.

Speaker 4 All right. Love you guys.

Speaker 4 I'm the one who say I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 4 Today is a market, but the fights are safe.

Speaker 4 I won't say

Speaker 4 somewhere a little way.

Speaker 4 Slowly learning to find this okay.

Speaker 4 through

Speaker 4 things I say

Speaker 4 every little I've gone. Just the way that we're breathing.

Speaker 4 And you're all the things I've come to remember.

Speaker 4 Drink on me, take

Speaker 4 me

Speaker 4 up,

Speaker 4 drink on me.

Speaker 4 I'll make

Speaker 4 you

Speaker 4 drink on earth.