
Jim Harbaugh, Grit Week 2024, Olympics + The Mt Rushmore Of Things Were Too Old For
Grit Week 2024 is here and we’re live from the RV to kick off the week. The buy new clothes every day plan has already hit a snag (00:00:00-00:17:07). We talk Olympics, the incredible 100 meter dash, Scottie Scheffler and more. NFL Top 100 makes no sense (00:17:07-00:32:48). Who’s back of the week including the White Sox 20 game losing streak and RFK’s best story (00:32:48-00:52:07). Coach Jim Harbaugh joins the show live from Chargers Training Camp to talk grit, football, being back in the NFL, the time he created a made up rivalry trophy, getting into the cold tub with his khakis on and tons more (00:52:07-01:51:03). We finish with the Mt Rushmore of things were too old for (01:51:03-02:29:49).
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On today's Pardon My Take, it is Grit Week, and we have our good friend, Coach Jim Harbaugh, on the show. Incredible interview with him.
He is, for everyone who knows the history of Pardon My Take, he was one of our first big guests on grit week season two but we're back in the uh bus we're traveling around we're going to training camps it's grit week we're excited uh we're gonna talk with jim harbaugh we're gonna do who's back we're gonna talk some olympics we have the mount rushmore of things you wish you weren't too old for, which should be very fun. Ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working? Nah, neither has Ariat.
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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, August 5th, and it is Grit Week.
Yeah, baby. We're back.
The best week of the year. Yes.
Football is so back, too. Like, going to training camps and just smelling football, hearing football.
Hearing football, I think, is the best. It was so awesome being at Chargers training camp today.
We have an awesome interview with Jim Harbaugh coming up. We also got to interview Ben Herbert, their strength and conditioning coach, which we'll release probably next week.
But it is grit week. It feels good to be back around football.
We've got some awesome interviews coming this week for the AWLs, some big-time training camps we're going to, and we all are dressed ridiculous. We are.
Most of us. We're all dressed pretty ridiculous right now so um everyone is i realized the mistake we made uh was so pft was traveling all last week and we had the idea he was like i don't know what to do because i'm going to be traveling and i have no new clothes and we came up with the very genius idea of like hey let's just buy new clothes every day while we're out on grit week um so i i did this i don't know if max also was in europe so he needed new clothes i packed a single backpack i love it hank maybe cheated a little he packed full clothes but he's wearing the the bought clothes by huey today it dawned on me though that they have full suitcases as well.
Yeah, that's true. I have a suitcase dirty clothes.
I brought just a backpack. Max's clothes smell like France right now.
You don't want that. Looking at us right now though, it dawned on me that this only hurts me, Max and Hank.
It doesn't hurt PFT at all. Cause he's just dressing like he always dresses.
PFT has matched a thousand times better than he was earlier today when he was wearing a striped polo and polka-dotted shorts. Oh, Hank, when I was wearing the Part of My Take-branded polo shirt with the Blue Mountains.
It's a great shirt. Piece of shit.
No, the outfit was horrible. You can have a nice shirt and if it doesn't match, you look like you got dressed in the dark.
That's your thing. This is green shorts with a green shirt.
Yeah look like you look sick i do i'm the first to admit there's usually two days a week where i look like i accidentally dressed like a six-year-old i'm going to like kindergarten basically i look like bryce young walking in a barstool that's today i get it that was it was it was my last my last set of clothes that i had available actually what's messed up is last night i set that out. I had two options of what to wear.
I was like, this is my better outfit. So I'll set this out for tomorrow.
Oh, you went with your winner. I went with my better outfit.
Yeah, the other was a Lemmy from Motorhead t-shirt and pink shorts. So this was the winner.
Either way, if we all walked down and saw each other first thing in the morning, everyone would be like, what the fuck are you wearing, Max? What the fuck are you wearing, Hank? What the fuck are you wearing, Big Cat? And everyone would be like, oh, PFT's dressed. I'm just wearing a John Cena shirt.
I actually do own these shorts. I have these same shorts, but they're- Well, those are just normal shorts.
They're darker blue. Those are normal shorts.
The pants we're wearing- The pants between me, Big Cat, and Hank versus PFT is insane. Insane.
Max looks like- I'm wearing the Super Bowl pants. You look like you're...
We're fine. Dude, I'm wearing a generic football jersey.
I don't even know what this is. I actually like Max's outfit.
He looks like... This looks like something that you would wear.
You look like a guy that runs a disco in Scooby-Doo. He looks like a cop.
He looks like a cop from the 70s, like a movie about a cop from the 70s,
and they cut to a scene where they're having a barbecue.
Yeah, but he also looks like a guy
who just was in Amsterdam,
and he was like, oh, I'm back,
and I'm not doing this American dressing anymore.
That's where you are.
You look like a drug dealer.
You look like a guy in Amsterdam.
They'd be like, hey, five bucks.
She'll give you the best night of your life.
You look like Euro Max right now.
You're standing on the street corner. Euro Max.
so huey's dressing us this is day one so um the the nice thing about i knew that when i walked out here you guys were going to say well pft doesn't look any any different than he normally does it's better yeah i look better maybe but um the the thing that you don't notice here that i thought somebody would bring up uh they got me a crop top shirt, but the crop top, it looks like a normal T-shirt on me. And I thought that you guys would bring that up.
Yeah. But fortunately, I guess just my normal ridiculous look covered up for the fact that I'm short.
And we're going back to Chargers camp tomorrow for another interview dressed like this. And we have some other big interviews coming up that were going to be dressed equally as ridiculous.
I stand out the most in my outfit for sure, correct? Yeah. I mean, Hank does have child pornography on his shirt.
Dude, I'm wearing a football jersey. What are you talking about? It's football.
You're a football guy. I look like I'm going to a NASCAR event.
Well, the top half of me does. The bottom half, I don't know what I am.
P know what I am PFT said I'm wearing I'm in bell bottoms I could have said that I woke up late And had to run out to the RV And like Didn't have time to change Yeah you just You just woke You were just Like oh man I'm a little groggy This is what I wear I wear my I wear my Snoopy This is what I wear to eat breakfast And then I got changed for the days That is on brand for Hank Hank looks like he's still in right now. Do you want to hear the funny Hank story? I do more than anything.
You want to hear it? Yeah. Max heard it.
Yeah, whatever. No, this is a funny Hank story.
I want to hear the funny Hank story. And we'll talk about sports in a second.
Can I tell you the funny Hank story? This is vintage. This is going to be vintage.
Hank, I don't want you interrupting, trying to gaslight the audience. I want to hear what actually happened.
You stop me when I'm wrong. I'm on Hank's side for this, though.
But you stop me when I'm wrong. It's just funny coming from Hank, but I'm on Hank's side.
Just to set the stage. I'll set the stage with, like, this is what we do all the time.
Okay, all right, all right. Factor Fishing.
We talk about schedules all the time. But the timing of it was very fun.
Tell the story. The timing of it was very funny So last week was vacation
Hank just got back from vacation
And the week before
Hank just got back from vacation
Saturday
He texts
We flew Saturday
Hank text me
I'm
A work trip
I'm pulling up to O'Hare
And I get a text from Hank and he goes i want to get ahead
of something i'm really hate him i'm really i'm really drunk right now he's actually that's saturday it's like 6 p.m he's just like i just want to get ahead of this i'm really drunk right now i was like i don't care whatever so then he shows up we're about to board he walks up again we just got off vacation first thing he says to me he goes not very first yeah it was pretty much the first not long after it was it was like hey what's up how you feeling and then he said this he said i was looking at christmas week and how many days we can have no I was thinking about the show schedule.
That was the first thing.
He pulled up his calendar.
He's like, look at the Christmas week.
I was just like, we just got done with the vacation.
What are you planning, Hank?
Yellow trip?
No, I mean, I was sitting at my house on Saturday doing nothing.
Just wondering about Christmas vacation.
And I'm looking at the calendar.
I'm just curious, looking at the calendar.
And again, like part of, obviously,
I do love vacations. I'm a huge vacation supporter that is you know a vacation week but i was thinking about the show and like you know obviously depending on when christmas and new year's is how we do the shows differentiates because i understand i was looking at i was i was throwing out ideas because there's a world where we could get two weeks yeah it was like it's the perfect christ, New Year's, we get two weeks off.
That is sweet. I'll get Hanks back on this.
When you're in school as a kid and you see that Christmas and New Year's lines up magically where you get maximum school year, that's great. The difference is we're not in elementary school right now.
And football is our job. Yeah.
And there's a lot of football being played in those two weeks, including the entire college football playoffs.
There's Christmas Day games. I had it
all planned out and Big Cat wouldn't even let me
get out my words. Because I was like
it goes through two Sundays.
College football playoffs.
I wasn't saying we're taking those weeks off.
There's a world where we record Sunday.
I'm not going to get there.
I'm on Hank's side here. I'm looking at it now.
We always have to record on New Year's Eve or on Christmas Eve and Christmas which sucks that we have to get that. No, no.
I'm on Hank's side here. I'm looking at it now.
We always have to record on Christmas Eve and Christmas, which sucks that we have to do that. This year, there isn't going to be Christmas Eve games, right? There's going to be Christmas Day games.
Yeah, but that's a Wednesday. Yeah.
So we record on Thursday. So we record on Thursday.
That does rock, and I'm on your side. But again, it's just the funny of like- Hank was trying to get two weeks off.'re in the first week of august and he's just like i've been looking at the christmas schedule well it's also very fitting the the start of grit week the hardest working week of the year he comes in hot with planning a vacation six months well drunk yeah oh you're gonna do that go ahead well be franny lyden for a second this is our second grit week in la that we've done so we yeah i'm sure there'll be people like why didn't you go to the rust belt again although there was a lot of people who were mad that we did buffalo and detroit last year again uh we go where the interviews take us it's like if you build it they will come and we are going to three different training camps and have six unbelievable interviews coming so that's what we're doing and and we also are going to find ways what's grittier than the pacific ocean nothing maybe there's a lot of things but we're going to try to surf tomorrow and i'm very worried about that yeah that's where the mariana trench is lowest pad level on earth yeah we asked huey if he knows how to swim and he said i i haven't drowned yet yeah shout out huey i've swam uh within seven to eight years ago within the last seven or eight years in a pool in a controlled environment i'm good yeah this is the pacific ocean so we said huey do know how to swim and he goes i think so which is not not the ideal answer i mean i want to we gotta get we're to get you in floaties tomorrow in the ocean.
Either way, people, there'll be haters for anything. I can just trust us that we have some awesome interviews.
And we've also been on an awesome interview kick. Oh, yeah.
The summer ever. We were going through the takeies.
I was going through episodes to think of stuff that happened last year. And I went through our last summer episodes.
were we were just scratching and clawing for anything yes yes that was a transition no i know i it's just it was funny when i you know you didn't think about it but i was looking back and i was like oh wow like if you compared last summer's guest to this summer's it's right yeah yeah it's way different it's crazy big cat you do look funny though you you You look like a cop showing up undercover at an ICP concert.
No, I'm a cop at Alpine Valley where there's just all the undercover cops go.
Yeah.
I'm at a Phish concert being like, hey, who's got goo balls?
We should say, by the way, we need an AWL's house for Hard Knocks.
So Tuesday night is the premiere of Hard Knocks.
Bears Hard Knocks. I'm very excited.
AWL, Costa Mesa. house for hard knocks so tuesday night is the premiere of hard knocks bears hard knocks i'm
very excited uh awl costa mesa give us costa mesa that's where we'll be in that approximate area
so where are they gonna who are they gonna contact huey i don't know about that who who are they
gonna reach out to i think it's gotta be it's gotta be huey i impressed huey our usual criteria
is if it's uh it's always better if it's a couple.
Yep.
We need a male, female.
Male, female.
Or male, male.
Or male, male, female.
Or female.
Oh, Hank.
Yeah, get freaky with it, Hank.
Oh, baby.
Okay.
How many extra chromosomes do we need, Hank?
I said male, male first.
Yeah, but you, yeah.
Yeah, we'd like it to be a couple.
Generally less creepy that way.
And preferably a dog.
Yeah, dog.
So there it is.
Those are our criteria.
Or we would make an exception if Rebecca Romaine O'Connell wanted us at her place.
Yes, so include a picture of your watch set up because that will take out a few people who just don't follow directions.
The email is pmthardknocks at gmail.com. Okay, so PMTHardknocks at gmail.com.
Costa Mesa area. We want to come to your house and watch Hard Knocks on Tuesday night.
It's one of our favorite things we do every Grit Week. awesome remember the time we went to um a house in milwaukee and the girl was a big fan and her boyfriend was like who are these dudes that are invited into our house that was wild yeah she was like i'm a huge fan and the guy was like didn't want anything to do with the guard i'll be upstairs yeah it was crazy it was crazy and some reason, she asked us to show up just bringing a bunch of pineapples.
Yeah. It was really strange.
Yeah. So guy, girl, or Hank would like to fuck girl, girl.
No fucking. No fucking.
I saw guy, guy first. Yeah.
Guy, guy is his first choice. You did the guy, guy.
Well, I wasn't trying to. Rank your choices.
Rank your choices. Rank your choices.
You look like you're doing math right now. What the hell? Just say it.
Are you counting holes? Rank your choice. Guy Guy would be honestly hilarious.
It would be very funny. Girl Girl would also be hilarious.
Yes. And then Guy Girl.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. And Dog.
We want a dog. We'd like a dog.
Guy, girl, guy. No, that never works.
Yeah. Okay.
What about... All right.
So, yeah. Tuesday night, we're going to watch Costa Mesa area.
We'll be down there. We'll bring the bus.
It's going to be great. What else do we have? Grit week is...
We're ready to go. It's upon us.
Chargers training camp was awesome today. We did, we'd be remiss if we didn't say how nice the facility was.
The building. We interviewed the building today.
Yep. I think that building is worth five wins at least.
Just on building alone for the Chargers. Yep.
We got our neck strength tested by Coach Ben Herbert. Yeah.
And yeah, I got the strongest neck out of the three of us yeah great great neck strong big cat great neck great neck uh i think he thought we were all pussies though yeah of course of course well we are yeah well yeah that's true it's well uh all right let's talk some sports should talk some sports should talk some olympics let's talk olympics where do we want to start what 100 meter dash 100 meter dash. 100-meter dash? What? 100-meter dash?
100-meter dash?
100-yard?
No, 100-meter.
100-meter.
100-meter.
Noah Lyles with painted fingernails.
Could it be the year of painted fingernails?
Wins by .05 of a second.
We all watched it, and we still don't really understand.
We're like, this looks like the Jamaican guy won. The announcer said that as well.
Completely ruined the moment by saying that Jamaican takes it. But Noah Lyles backed it up because he was talking a lot of shit.
He was talking a lot this week. If that Jamaican guy had been a French pole vaulter, he would have won.
That's how close it was. His head crossed the line line i think it was 0.0005 it was a period of time that doesn't exist yes ahead of the jamaican guy and uh yeah i guess no lyle's big like anime guy he's big ugo guy yeah he's he he called his shot too because he was there was a big deal he uh finished second in his first in the first like quarterfinals whatever it was and heat and he finished he was like 12th overall ran real slow over 10 10 seconds and everyone was just bashing him being like this guy sucks now he even said he's like yeah it's the olympics everyone's gonna give me my best shot i should probably run a little harder yeah and he went and won the 100 meters, and USA's on top in gold medals, I think, and total medals.
We just dominate. We're tied with China for gold.
China. We're smoking them and everything else.
Yeah, that's true. It's a big, big day for just declaring people to be on Mount Rushmore.
Mm-hmm. And apparently before Noah Lyles went over, in an interview he said, I'm envisioning myself returning home as a gold medalist and that puts me on mount rushmore hell yes him and joe biden a lot of people a lot of people going on mount rushmore these days nancy pelosi is literally trying to end mount rushmore season it's tough we won't let her yeah she probably shorted mount rushmore's and then talked about it.
Now she's going to buy. She's going to buy.
You did mention the French pole vaulter who, if everyone missed it, he basically got disqualified or whatever. The bar came down because his dick was too big, which kind of the best way to lose? Because everyone's like, oh, your dick was too big? I'd say- Now everyone knows your dick's too big? It's without a doubt the best way yeah and uh if he's from france so if he was from another country where they circumcised he probably would have been fine yeah that's true he i think it was actually his balls more than anything i think it was his hog it was whole package i think it was the dick yeah um jokovic is the goat won gold wasn't on tv couldn it.
No big deal. On clay.
Beat Nadal. Beat the whole country of Spain.
I was there. You were there? I was there.
For the winner? For Djokovic? You said he beat Nadal. Oh, yeah.
He beat Nadal. We had also Jon Rahm with an all-time choke, and Scotty Scheffler is Captain America, so he won gold it was john rom was plus five on the back nine scotty scheffler was minus six on the back nine he shot a 62 today minus 600 with eight holes if john rom had shot par on the back nine he would have won by a stroke and he ended up losing he kept he came in fifth yeah yeah scotty scheffler also, I think he won $38,000.
I think that was the purse for today. Really? Yeah.
And he won like a gold. His caddy won $3,800 today.
Not sponsored by Liv? No. In the Olympics? No.
He got the gold medal and they gave him like a cube. A gold cube? Yeah.
Is that everyone that's getting that or is that just golfer? That was the first time I saw someone holding it. It looked like something that a villain would steal and die hard and bury underneath the Statue of Liberty.
It was like a piece of gold from Fort Knox that he got to go home with. Good for Scotty.
Where was the course today, Hank? Do you know? I think it was the same place that the Ryder Cup was at. Oh.
Oh, so it is actually right next to Versailles then, which is the original Louisville. Mm-hmm.
I might have just made that up. Yeah, I think you did.
Okay. But that's okay.
Sky Scheff which is the original louisville so i just made that up yeah i think you did okay but that's okay uh sky scheffler is the man he is the man captain america golf national so no wait it's called lay golf lay golf national people were trying to make the olympic gold is the fifth major we i mean well they were that one in connecticut they were giving joe travelers travel Oh, The Road to Dubai. Yeah, that? They were giving Jokovic.
The travelers?
Travelers. Oh, the road to Dubai.
Yeah, that's true.
But Jokovic, they career grants land.
Yeah.
So if it's the fifth major for tennis, I feel like it kind of is.
But they don't have the travelers in tennis.
True.
But they probably do.
They might.
Or the players.
They might.
They might.
Also, Team USA lost to Mickey Mouse in the mixed. I didn't even know they did mixed relays.
Pretty cool. But we lost to the Netherlands in Mickey Mouse.
I don't know if you guys have heard this woman's voice. Nothing will prepare you for it, but here it is.
You know exactly what to do indoors. How was that for you? Oh, it was amazing.
That's real voice it's it sounds like one of us doing a girl's voice yeah it was amazing she also looks exactly like uh pete holmes wife in crashing yes i saw i saw her she yeah she does a lot it's weird to hear even weirder to look at. We should not be losing.
I feel like for as long as I've been an adult person watching the Olympics, we always dominate the 4x100, except for Jamaica that one time. Yeah.
But I feel like that's our thing, that we should dominate. Right.
It's sad to see. Yeah.
The U.S. women's soccer team won.
That was a great game. No, they beat Japan.
Trinity Rodman. Trinity Rodman scoring goals all over.
Where are we in the tournament? I think semifinals now. Okay.
Our basketball team is going to win gold. Our draw is insane.
Yeah, pretty good. Everyone good is on the other side of the bracket, so that's a wrap.
And Embiid dominated. Yeah, he did.
He had a good game. Yeah, he did.
I told you. He scored easy buckets.
It's a matchup. You didn't tell us because you released a video that you were addressing all these things
that we just didn't say.
Well, you were going to.
No, we weren't.
I went back and listened.
You got pre-mad?
You guys just wanted me to get mad first, but you were going to make fun of him.
But I thought you were going to make fun of him and then kick it to me.
I think if we're doing, though, like, let's look at the team as a whole.
I would say that Embiid is having a much better Olympics than Tatum. I didn't say that.
They both have won, did not play. Max, do you want to address the country? Where's your patriotism? Well, you're saying that because you know I'm right.
No, I'm saying it because if you thought I was wrong, you would be fighting. No, all that matters isn't gold because we already won gold.
We're playing for basically who can be the best on Team USA. It was the Ryder Cup course in 2018.
Okay, nice. Oh, 2018.
Okay. Max, would you like to address the fact that the Phillies suck? They won today.
Okay. And they lost six.
You're only as good as your last game. I was thinking about it.
Is there a chance that you, like, cursed? You took a week off. You were off on vacation, and the Phillies didn't win a game for the entire time you were off.
I know. It's crazy.
So I know that sometimes you think that, like, this show is a curse to you because you just keep finishing second. What if, in a weird twist of fate, if you ever left PMT, you actually would lose everything? I thought about that.
Like, be a loser like us. And also, MB didn't play.
Yeah. There was a lot of bad things that were happening to Philly sports while I was gone.
And there were a couple moments where I was just, like, sitting, and getting angry. And I was like, I can't be angry right now.
Like, I can't let this bother me right now. You can't be angry while you're holding a baguette.
Yeah. So many baguettes.
So many baguettes. So much cheese.
You forgot one important team. Your Philadelphia Water Dogs have been eliminated from the playoffs.
fucking suck i think i think it's fire everybody they suck dude they were down 11 to nothing on saturday they suck i it starts with us they're turning me into dan snyder yeah but it actually i hate it does start with max because they are the philadelphia water dogs we never were this bad when we were just the Water Dogs. Well, before we got Max, we won a championship.
Then we got Max.
They came in second.
But yeah, Max, you might be – like on this show, the series of heartbreak that you've had for Philadelphia sports,
you might be completely like maxing out Philly's ability.
This is like as good as it gets.
Right.
So Philadelphia should be thanking me?
Well, you're not winning anything still, but you can just never leave us. Okay.
Is what we're basically saying. Also, I'd like to apologize to you guys if I could.
When we went into this- You're not texting me after my big horrific fall and seeing if I was okay? Would fall? Would fall. When I fell on my ass.
Did you fall? Yeah, I felt really bad. I felt really bad.
Are you okay? thank you for asking are you all right i am okay yeah did you break anything i almost broke my wrist well you basically have a broken hand pretty much like lebron but yes i know but i'd like to apologize because going into baseball season we were trying to figure out which team to bet against every single day oh this is my who's back okay yeah it's my who's back all right Who's Back. All right.
Yep. My Who's Back.
We'll talk about it. I have some stats.
Every day I think about it. Every single day.
Yeah, because that team was actually mentioned. But yes, my Who's Back.
Do you guys want to get mad about a list? Yeah. Okay.
Tyree Kill was named number one NFL player. And Patrick Mahomes is number four.
Yes. Insane.
And Tyreek Hill won't even raise speed.
That's true.
He's a coward.
Yeah, he is.
I don't understand this list.
I mean, I get it because they're trying to make people mad.
But no, because this is-
Who voted on it?
I think the players voted on it.
So this is just hater?
I think, yeah.
It's because there's a lot of teams that despise Patrick Mahomes because he beats them.
You can't have a top one.
Two and three.
Lamar and Christian McCaffrey.
I think it's Christian McCaffrey, then Lamar.
You can't have a top 100 list of NFL players and not have Patrick Mahomes number one.
Correct.
Right now.
Mahomes should be number one.
Tyreek should be anywhere between two and four.
Fine, but Mahomes is number one.
But the gap between one and two is significant.
Right.
It makes no sense.
Yeah, it's just people that have lost to Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.
And it also opens up, like if I were a Dolphins fan, I actually wouldn't want to have Tyreek Hill be the number one player because it just opens up Chiefs fans to be like, all we care about is rings. Yeah.
And then they could just do that to everyone. Well, hypothetically, what would happen if the Chiefs ever played against the Dolphins in the playoffs? What would the weather be? Pretty cold.
It wouldn't go well for the Dolphins. Okay.
It would not go well for the Dolphins. It would be helmet-breaking cold.
Yes, it would not go well for the Dolphins. All right, what else in the sports world? Hall of Fame inductions were this weekend.
Devin Hester. That was pretty cool.
He said, I'm hopefully the first of many to get in. Yeah, and he said, I'm the best of all time.
And he is. He is the best, yeah.
That's not even a question. Stephen Michael, obviously battling ALS.
Very sad, but great that he got the recognition. Yeah.
Julius Peppers. Who else? Patrick Willis.
Is it basically going to be impossible for another kick returner to get in? I think he was talking about Josh Cribs and- Ryan Mitchell. Yeah.
Maybe Dante Hall. Dante Hall, human joyce.
I feel like the career was too short for Dante Hall. Yeah, he was.
But yeah, it was very fitting that Devin Hester went in on the weekend that started the new era era of kicks although the new kick is supposed to allow for more returns i i think we've been thinking too much myself included about how teams are going to take advantage of it on the return i think it's going to be a bigger advantage for the kicking team to do it than the returning team i feel like a smart special teams coach is going to be able to pin them with like a fucked up kick. Yeah.
Every kickoff. Yeah, really high kick.
Wait, you can fair catch though. I'm not sure.
You probably can. Yeah, you can fair catch basically anything.
There's a second show in a row where we don't know these rules. That makes sense.
You can fair catch anything. There hasn't been more games.
Yeah, true. We haven't seen it enough.
Yeah, my prediction for this NFL season, I think people are going to really hate the kickoff because we hate new things until we just get used to it and then we're like, oh, it's fine. It's basically the same.
We get the same amount of returns. Yeah, exactly.
It does technically, if you go to the NFL website, it says promotes more returns. Okay.
Yeah, well, that's pure property. Well, you're saying they'd lie? Yes.
I think eventually it'll be better. I think overall it's going to be better, but because it's a safer game, because it's new, people are going to hate it.
Correct. We hate everything new.
Yeah. That's a fact.
Okay. Any other sports stories? I've got one thing I want to get ahead of.
Yeah. I alluded this to Hank earlier.
Over the course of the weekend, we were in Nashville. Pup Punk played at the Barstool Nashville Bar.
And it was a great time. I had a blast.
Before the show, I was getting my guitar tuned up. I was setting up the amp, all that stuff.
And a lady came up to me on the side of the stage. She was probably, I'm going to guess, 45, maybe 50 years old.
She was very obviously there on a bachelorette party, which is the number one reason people go to Nashville. And the beer games.
And the beer games, of course. And she came up to me and she was saying something.
I walked over to her. I was like, what's that? And she was like motioning over.
She's like, I'm on a bachelorette party. It's a scavenger.
And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Got finished setting some stuff up and she was still there like, come here, come here.
So I walked over to her and she was like, put your number in my phone and i said i can't do that i was like i'm not i'm not going to give you my number and then she was like i just need it for scavenger hunt please just give me your number i was like i don't know i can't i can't check this off like you're gonna have to find somebody else to ask then she's like just put in any number i don't care so i can just check it off and say that. So I reached over and just hit in 10 random numbers.
There were people that had cameras out at the time. You should have put it in 911.
And it might look like I gave a 50-year-old woman my number. Wanted to just get ahead of this.
That's not what happened. So in case that video comes out, I'm ahead of it.
That's good. That's smart.
That's what we call getting ahead of a story that's smart yeah see this is the national barstool bar yes any other videos you want to get ahead of what at the national barstool bar all right no i think we're good anything okay great we're good yeah you should have put in 911 i And then just hit dial. Yeah.
Was she hot? I think-
Why'd you give her my number?
Yeah.
Your number?
Well, Hank, I thought you'd be busy.
There was another crazy plane lady that went viral this weekend.
Yeah, that's true.
I thought maybe you'd be reaching out to her.
You see the naked plane lady?
Yeah.
Totally nude.
Totally nude.
Wait, was this one or not?
I think maybe back in her day.
Okay.
Yeah. Cannons? I don't know.
Respectfully, I did not look. Respectfully? Yeah.
Respectfully. Respectfully.
Nancy Pelosi should have just done a press conference being like, my cannons are on the Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
I'm like, okay. Crazy.
Just put them underneath Abraham Lincoln. Crazy.
Yeah. Put these cannons on.
Okay. let's do Who's Back of the Week? Then Coach Jim Harbaugh.
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Who's Back of the Week is the Chicago... No, I'm just kidding.
You don't have one? Oh, no. You don't have one? He was planning his vacation earlier.
He was planning his vacation. No, Who's Back of the Week is Disgrace.
Oh. Okay.
Our three-on-three basketball team got eliminated. He sucked.
Disgraceful. So bad.
Jimmer was hurt, right? I'm going to blame this on Jimmer being hurt. I think he played.
No, Jimmer's hurt. He did not play against Lithuania.
I don't know if he played the last game. We were 0-2, then he didn't play, then we lost again.
I think we won one game? I don't even know. How the fuck is this possible? Also, why don't we just send our...
Why isn't Jalen Brown in 3-3? I think it's like a different type of training. I don't know.
It's a disgrace. No, it's basketball.
Yeah, like Peyton Pritchard. Like, just send our next three guys.
Wait, once we're over there and we got guys like Jason Tatum and Joel Embiid that can't get minutes, why don't we just put them over on the three and three? That's what I'm saying. Joel Embiid, it's a fast-paced game.
That's true. He's too fat to go all the way to the three-point line and back.
It's insane that we lost this early. We didn't even make it to the knockout stage.
Disgrace. Absolute disgrace.
Why isn't Golgi on the team? Good question. Golgi, there's a lot of people.
I think they're going to have to bring Coach K in and save our country again. Yeah, probably.
We should take our best basketball-playing football players.
The women's 3-on-3 team does have WNBA players.
So why the fuck don't we have NBA players in our 3-on-3?
Yeah, that's not good.
All right, what's going on?
I just thought it was funny.
Huey loves talking about WNBA. Oh, yeah.
No matter what. If who's back's coming up, Huey loves talking about the WNBA.
Oh, yeah. No matter what.
He loves it. If who's back's coming up, Huey's talking about the WNBA.
He's got a WNBA back for us. All right, PFT, who's your who's back? My who's back of the week is John Gruden.
John Gruden was at Chiefs practice today. He's also a beast on Cameo.
Is he? Really? What's he doing? Number one on Cameo. Let's get a Cameo.
John Gruden. How much is he? Gotta be expensive.
We should actually try to do a full interview with him on Cameo.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
That would rule.
Yes.
Yeah, let's get John Gruden.
Let's just do a full, full interview.
We'll run it.
Yeah, full.
All right.
Okay, we're going to do that.
Let's write like 15 questions.
Can we just be like-
$130?
This is going to be the most expensive interview we've ever done. One of the questions should just be...
We write his answers for him, right? So one of his answers should just be the text of one of the emails that he sent. Good question.
Yeah. Thanks.
Good question, yeah. Okay, yeah, we're going to do that.
But yeah, he was at Chiefs practice today. He was wearing a Chiefs uniform, and he was advising Chiefs coaches.
Whoa. So I think john gruden might be secretly on the chief's coaching staff dipping his toe i think he's dipping he's dipping more than that wow he's like mid-shaft right now with the chiefs and he used to work with andy in uh in green bay right i believe so so i feel like andy reed would be the guy if there's any coach right now in the nfl that does not give a fuck what the what the league office thinks about them it's probably andy reed yeah he's too successful yeah um touchable all right john gruden would be fun to have back uh i thought you were gonna maybe do your who's back uh rfk junior can you explain the bear thing oh the bear thing yeah so this doesn't make any sense it's kind of a fun story and he got out ahead of it, just like I got ahead of the old woman story.
But so from what I understand is RFK Jr., he back in the day, he was driving behind his friend. They were going on a hunting trip.
The car in front of him ran over a bear, a bear cub, like a young bear. And then RFK Jr.
pulled over, picked the bear up up put it in the back of his van not very kennedy like of him yeah you're actually going back to help something that might have been hit yeah yeah so stepping out a little bit on that so he put the bear in the back of his van uh because he was going to skin it and then take the meat later because naturally because he had a bear license right as one does okay Okay. So he then proceeds to go back to New York.
He forgets he's got a steak dinner at Peter Luger's. So he's like, okay, I'll just duck in for the steak real quick.
I'll leave the dead bear in the back of my van. No big deal.
Go inside, eat the steak dinner. Then the dinner ran a little bit long.
Okay. So he goes back and he's like, oh, crap, I got to get to the airport.
I don't know what I'm going to do with this dead bear cub that I've got in the back of my van. So then he drives with his buddies that he was just drinking with or they were drinking.
He drives with them. Now it's getting more Kennedy-like.
Yeah, yeah. So they get in the car and they have a great suggestion that he says he played along with, which was to take the bear to Central Park and stage it and make it look like a bicycle ran into it and killed the bear cub.
Okay. It's a pretty common prank.
And many, many bear cubs in Central Park. A lot of them, yeah.
So this is going to be a funny thing they were doing with the boys. This actually is like a guys being dudes moment.
Yeah. Like somebody has a bad idea, all your friends are hammered, and then you think that it's a good idea for some reason so then he drives the bear the dead bear cub to central park stages it to make it look like it got run over by a bicycle which i guess would kill a bear but at the time there were a bunch of like bike related fatalities in new york city okay so they were doing that as a joke about like all the bicyclists hitting people they're like even they're they're hitting bears now oh it was a comment on on site it was satire yeah right yeah so they they put the bear there and then uh the next day on the news they wake up and they turn it on and it's like national news that a bear cub got run over by a bike and it's a crime scene and for the last i don't know what what's the date on this can somebody look that up like when it happened uh but ever since then it's been like a big mystery why how did this bear cub die in central park turns out that rfk jr put it there and how did we find this story out today so we found it today because rfk jr was doing a podcast with uh roseanne bar okay and so he found out that the new yorker was going to write about it.
Okay. So he was getting ahead of the story by telling Roseanne the whimsical story about how he hid the bear carcass in Central Park.
Oh my god. Ten years ago.
Ten years ago, yeah. So for the last ten years New Yorkers have been wondering what happened with this bear.
Turns out RFK Jr. What if we find out that RFK Jr.
had a hand in Flacco the Owl? It's a possibility. That could be a possibility.
Yeah, let's not put anything past him at this point. We're going to close that case yet.
So get ahead of that one. What an insane headline.
Yeah, pretty wild. Okay, I think I don't care at all, but it's still a cool story to hear.
I actually appreciate what jr is doing in this in this political season where like everything has been very intense and he's just like coming out with stories left and right about being a weirdo yeah i mean there was the famous when when a reporter asked if there was any more sexual allegation things coming out about him he just said we'll see yeah which is a hell of an answer he answer. He's been on a heater too, like the brain worms thing.
Wait, do we think he, we don't think he killed the bear.
He claims that he didn't. Because that part feels.
He says that there was a car in front of him. It sounds like Billy Football, the way he's like, yeah, this dude killed a bear and I got it.
They both kind of believe a lot of the same things politically. But like this, if you hit a bear and you kill it and i'm assuming you're going to notice that it's going to hit your car and probably cause some damage right do you just keep going or do you pull over and you're like what the fuck was that yeah i don't know okay that's why that part doesn't really and i i don't really i don't think you see a bear get hit and then pull over immediately being like oh i want this bear i want this bear meat and i want to skin it's a bear cub i want to skin this bear cub yeah that doesn't feel like a lot of meat that's also a valid point and would you want like a bear cub's skin in your house like if you're gonna there's nothing cooler than having like the bear that's standing up looking like it's gonna kill you a little baby bear but like a tiny little bear is kind of fucked up thing yeah that might be a bigger red flag than putting in the back of your van then you put in the back of your van like it's a hostage for yeah 15 hours and you're like oh i can't leave it in my van because it'll smell okay let's drive from brooklyn to central park to drop it off this this story doesn't really make sense anymore and it makes all the sense in the world to me yeah um okay my who's back.
I got two of them. First is, we were alluding to it, the Chicago White Sox, who are on a 20-game losing streak.
Now, PFT, you mentioned it, but we did have the debate before the season, should we bet against the A's or the White Sox? Yeah, it came down to those two teams. And we chose incorrectly because we are betting against the A's every day, and I think we're down eight units, which isn't disastrous.
But the White Sox have lost 20 games in a row. They also have a streak of 14 losses in a row.
They're 60 games under .500. If you just erased their 14-game losing streak and their 20 game losing streak they would still have the worst winning percentage in baseball this year and and we'd be rich and we'd be rich if you took their 20 game losing streak in 14 game losing streak and magically made them a 20 game winning streak in a 14 game winning streak they would they would only go up one spot in the AL Central.
It's bad. That's how bad they are.
They are so, so bad. I mean, here's another one.
The last White Sox win was closer in time to the Celtics winning the NBA Finals than to right now. That's bad.
That's really bad. I feel bad for White Sox.
Gary Re bad for white socks part of the reason why part of
the reason why we didn't bet against the white socks every day or at least me why i didn't really want to do that was because new in chicago i'm trying to enjoy the city a great way to make enemies here is by hating all their sports teams but it turns out we should have done it because white socks fans hate the white socks more than anyone at this i know because jerry re Jerry Reinsdorf has completely made like this. It's a joke.
There's another one. This is from Jay Kuda.
Only two managers in baseball history have at least 200 games managed for the same team and a winning percentage under 333, which is insane winning percentage. Pedro Graffal and a guy named Dr.
James Prothro who was a licensed dentist who managed the phillies during world war ii love that that guy had to manage the team because everyone was playing was fighting the nazis yeah and then it's pedro graffal that's insane i'm not the step coach i'm the coach that stepped up yeah it's it's one of my great regrets in life yeah not fading the white socks every single day every single day this year. What would you, if you, at the start of this losing streak, if you had bet $100 on them and then you let it ride, what would that total be? I don't know.
Someone's going to have that. We're not math guys.
That's going to make us really bummed out. Yeah.
21, I think, is the record. Yeah, so what are they at, 19 now? No, they're at 20.
They're at 20 now. Yeah, they're at 20.
Every time I see this happen, I just think of how much more money I would have. They're so bad, it's like getting to a point, too, where they're basically circling the rotations where I think they played the Twins.
I think they just finished playing the Twins, or maybe they were playing the Twins this weekend, or maybe it was during the week. But there was a game August 3rd where the last time they won a game was against Bailey Ober on the Twins, and then they were facing Bailey Ober again three weeks later.
And 60 games out is so many games. So many games out.
It's ridiculous. It's 27 wins.
27 wins, and we're in August. It's insane.
And then my other who's back is i don't know if you guys saw this uh it was i'm setting myself up for some insults but uh there was a account called brooks gate that did a thread of all of the most retweeted and liked or yeah, retweeted and liked tweets of all time by NFL teams.
Did you guys see this? of all of the most retweeted and liked tweets of all time by NFL teams.
Did you guys see this?
So there was some good ones in there.
The Bears one was,
Welcome to the Chicago Bears, Justin Fields.
That hurt a little.
The Bills and the Bengals had, it was all about DeMar,
sending thoughts to DeMar. Cowboys one was jerry jones taking a knee which we forgot that he did that oh no it's so great yeah um and then the one that really hurt me hank you'll get a laugh out of this the packers one is actually i think the oldest one on this uh and it just says it's 42 to nothing packers with 14 seconds left in quarter two that was a game we watched together where aaron rogers that was before they juiced twitter numbers yeah that's from 2014 uh i don't know what the commanders want oh the commanders was when you guys broke the steelers uh undefeated season that's right yeah that was that was a pretty worst 11-0 uh team of all time those sealers yeah what about the chargers pf changs oh i don't think the Chargers pf changs was on there patriots has got to be a 28 to 31 the patriots was something about tom brady oh the eagles one was a big time cuck one said time's yours andy after he won the super bowl in 2020 oh no that's brutal the number one liked favorited tweet by the eagles is celebrating someone else's super bowl.
We respect Andy. I love Andy.
I'm happy that he won the Super Bowl. You can't.
You can't. Sorry.
No respect. Yours, Patriots, was congratulations to the greatest of all time.
Oh, that's another one. That was after the Bucs won the Super Bowl.
Brutal. Brutal.
Yep. Just piece that together.
big time cuck energy over there i thought the
patriots one would be when they accidentally tweeted out a racial slur out of six super
rules yeah i was just backing up i was like they don't know anything about respect the saddest one organizations and you're just trying to be an asshole that's big time uh acc congratulating katie ledecky yeah stanford. Yeah.
Wow. The saddest one besides, obviously, the one I mentioned about the Packers just shitting on the Bears was the Dolphins.
Can you guess what the Dolphins one was? It has to do with their new quarterback or their new contract for their quarterback.
No.
Tua.
No.
It says, Tua has been taken to a local hospital for further evaluation.
He is conscious and has movement in all his extremities.
Okay.
So that was probably also big prayers up.
Yeah, but that was the most light retreat. I think it was the Bengals game when he got really concussed.
What did the Panthers be? Oh, the Panthers's see it's fun it's a fun little trip down uh memory lane oh yeah the jaguars happy jeans friday everyone jaguars had a good one about just like shitting on the steelers uh i'm looking for the panthers i'm looking for the panthers someone give me a line oh panthers uh it was luke keekly retiring okay thank you a lot of that yeah yeah a lot of that and then uh obviously, Dam give me a line. Oh, Panthers.
It was Luke Keekly retiring. Okay, thank you.
There was a lot of that. Yeah, yeah.
A lot of that. And then, obviously, DeMar had a lot.
Okay, Huey, you're who's back? Yeah, my who's back is Ohio State fans back on their bullshit after all the allegations coming out today of Coach Moore. Findings? Findings? No, it's allegations.
What were the findings? He deleted a couple text messages in regard to connor stallions and his possible knowledge on the 52 text messages 52 that's not as much as 200 and so you know he's just doing his his job is due diligence um i don't think anything i know this is gonna be any it's not gonna be a big deal past today yeah i don't think anyone's gonna talk about this in a week from now yeah so flip on the radar yeah yeah I think I know what he's talking to be a big deal pass today. Yeah.
I don't think anyone's going to talk about this in a week from now.
Yeah.
Flip on the radar, yeah.
Yeah.
I think nobody's talking about it today.
They also confirmed that Connor Stallions was on a central Michigan sideline.
That's good for them.
That program, the MAC, needs a lot of help.
Yep.
That program's going to be a powerhouse.
Yeah.
It might have been just like Michigan sharing one of their assistants with CMU.
Yeah.
Nothing inappropriate going on. We interviewed Harbaugh a couple hours after this.
We weren't going to ask him about this. I'm sure there'll be people like, why didn't you ask him? We have a relationship with Coach Harbaugh I really didn't feel like being like, hey putting on our big J hats.
What's going on with Sharon Moore? Yeah. Listen, we're here to talk about his team right now.
And also also suck his dick a little bit about michigan also it was an awesome interview so i i i am still as crazy as connor stallion's story is i still think that everyone was doing something similar and they were just mad that michigan like this this all comes from ohio state being jealous that michigan was beating them yeah and ryan day like having that firm that was wasn't his brother created a firm something about his brother and worked up in new england somewhere yeah it's the best college football story of all time it is connor stallions is just a hilarious character yes he's a he's an american hero he's like the american dream uh hank what are your thoughts on this as a veteran of someone who's been accused of spying on teams and as a veteran of a fan of a team who's deleted a lot of text messages yeah i think you got to get every advantage you can i think if you're not going to do it another team's going to and to to pf i mean to big cat's point it only reason they got caught is just because people were mad they were doing it so well they were winning i mean there's a chance if ohio state beat michigan the last two years we don't even Connor Stallion's name. That's true.
Good point. Good point, Huey.
You've quitted yourself quite well. Okay, should we get to our interview? Let's do it.
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Coach, you know how Grit Week works, so you've given us this answer before, but it's been a while. How would you define grit? I would define it as that gravel in the gut and even that you personally have that overcomes that situation when you doubt yourself, those pressure moments, and the guys that have it, athletes who have it, men or women, whoever has it, then they are able to give their best when their best is needed most.
Yeah, I like that. Overcoming a little adversity from time to time, yeah.
Do you enjoy a little bit of adversity just so you can get a a nice little w a nice win over like maybe your your inner demons or whatever the case may be um well i mean there's there's like the the level of the w would be yeah i mean you just love a w no matter what i mean yeah uh you win but yeah there is some there's something there's like even better levels like if you have to overcome something yeah that makes that even even better right um you know for example yeah that come from behind come from behind win is even yeah nothing makes you feel better than that or that win where you did it in an opposing stadium you know and you you feel like you you know your team walked in there and uh you know the fans were against you you know and it was just you overcame that um some tough environments that there's just no better feeling than coming out of a uh with a win in a place like that yeah and then if you can throw the elements in you know there's some like you know real real cold or real real hot or uh you know some some rain coming down sideways and you feel like you overcame the elements as well you know yeah to overcome an opponent overcome them in their stadium and to overcome them in their stadium with the elements then i would say yeah there's nothing that would make you feel more like a man than that yeah beat the weather yeah yeah all three you know beat them all it's great to see you back in the nfl i wanted to ask you though like how hard was that decision to go come back to the nfl leaving michigan you you went there you proved everything you you set out to prove took a while but it did you did it beat Ohio State three years in a row national title but was it was it tough because that is I assume your dream job but to then be like I got to leave this and come back to the NFL was that a tough decision yeah it was I mean uh I mean I love love these guys you know I mean this was uh you know all the all the players there all the other guys are recruited the coaches um you know just just everybody i mean it's like love you guys and uh you know there's there's another thing where okay here's here's a challenge you know here's somebody that uh you know likes what you do you do and how you do it and presenting you with this challenge. Whether it's a blessing or a curse, I mean, that's kind of always what's been in me is like, let me see if I'm up to that.
and um so that's uh that was the that was the overarching yeah i would say there's only there's only there's only so many sayings left in the hourglass you know so uh yeah i want to i want i want to chat i shot at that i want to see if uh you know we could let you know see if we can uh stand up to that and um so yeah it's been it's been is it's been hard you know, see if we can stand up to that. And so, yeah, it's been hard, you know.
Man, this is my two great loves that I have in my life is my family at home, you know, and my family at work. And there was that Michigan family.
And also my dad lived right next next door to me. Right.
In Ann Arbor. And maybe the toughest thing of all, you know, has been that, you know, they haven't they haven't moved out here.
Right. And hopefully they will.
Mom and dad, I hope you please, please. I need you living next door to us here in Los Angeles.
But I got to say, this family I have here at work, I love these guys. I love these guys.
And that's players, that's the coaching staff we put together. I mean, just tremendous all-star staff.
I know it. I know that.
And the entire organization, I mean i mean equipment room the ownership um you know the trainer uh the doctors the grounds crew i mean everybody here john weedmeyer christina uh marco on and on and on the and i finally put my finger on it which is why do i I love these. Wow, I love these.
Everybody hears so much so fast. Yeah.
And. On and on and on.
And I finally put my finger on it, which is, why do I love these?
Why do I love these? Everybody here so much so fast. And if I had to say one thing, it's just that everybody here treats their job like it's the most important job in the entire organization.
And they are just double-check it, triple-check it. You know, they just they just they want to be they want to be so good that, you know, I just love that everybody players and all are doing everything, anything and everything in their power to try to make this team win and be successful.
Yeah, I love that. I love these guys.
And now one thing you didn't mention, which I would assume was part of it is uh your brother has a super bowl did that did that get in your head a little like i gotta go get a super bowl um yeah i think people you know like um would automatically think that i think it's been said and uh yeah you know that's that's that's part of it yeah um but we know you we know you well it's got to be a little part yeah i'm not i'm not denying that yeah i mean uh but uh yeah i gotta say that um and maybe maybe but um you know i know everybody says you got to do you got to do one thing first you got to make the first birdie before you can you know know, do anything else. But yeah, it's it's so good here.
This entire organization, the Spanos family, Joe, Joe Ortiz. My brother said I would love Joe.
That's what he said. Oh, you're going to love Joe.
You're going to love working with Joe. He undersold it.
He undersold it. He's one of the best evaluators in the game.
I don't think there's anybody better after going through this offseason and draft with George. And he's he's he he is who he is every day.
And he pulls the best out of people. It's just it's just been spectacular.
He could those draft meetings we had. I mean, there could be like a TED talk of, you know, just the leadership style that he has.
You know, he's a normal guy. He's a football guy.
Yeah. He's a grit, weak guy, you know.
So my brother, he did say I'd love him. To me, it's like he still undersold it, you know.
I mean, how much I'm going to love Joe Hortiz. So, you know, that's been amazing.
Just everything's amazing. If it goes good, it's got to be because everything is in place and the players that we have.
And we can start talking about those guys too. And if it goes bad, it's because I'm a bad manager.
But, yeah, we're chipping away at it and getting after it every day. Listen, I wanted you, I was very publicly wanting you to coach the Bears.
I was reading it back. I made you a video, a hype video, trying to be like, hey, maybe I can get some kind of old flame going in Coach Harbaugh's heart where he's like, I got to go back to Chicago.
Your response was the nicest, like, I don't care about this video ever. Can I read it to you? It was the nicest ever.
You wrote back, I sent you the video of you, old highlights, you in a Bears uniform, all this stuff. And you said, thanks.
Cool. All glory to God.
Sure do value our football and family relationships and good times. Cherish them.
Thanks for caring and supporting. There are enough doubters and haters in the world.
Much respect and gratitude for you and yours. That was the nicest I don't care about this video ever.
That's not at all. That's not at all.
No, I appreciate you both. I mean, big cat, PFT commentator.
I mean, there are so many young people, and I don't know everything you do and say, but what I do know is like people, there's like a whole young generation of people that like, oh, you're a football guy. You're a football guy.
We know you. And I go, and I asked a couple of like, you know, like, do you know me? I mean, what do you, well, we watch, you know, we watch Big Cat and PFT Conner.
So I appreciate, I appreciate. you said about our family.
Yeah. So I meant every word of that.
And I know my brother John feels the same way. Yeah.
And my dad, Jack Harbaugh, who's doing great. Move to L.A.
Move to L.A., Jack. Yeah, come uh links to houses are you looking at real estate you're like hey look at this basement this one's got a pool yeah you know it's a great question i mean it's just uh question with the with the with the you know there's a there's there's strategy i'm always thinking of of the of the of the way to do this now when when i went from san franc Francisco to Michigan, one of the last things I said, Dad, what do you think I should do here? What do you think I should do? And he thinks, I think you should go back to Michigan and coach Michigan.
And I said, okay, well, if I do that, you're going to come, right? You're going to come to Ann Arbor and you're going to help me coach. And he said, the last thing he said is that he would.
And I got him, you know, I got him saying that. And then it took a full 12 months before he actually did, you know.
So I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that, you know, that we'll find a way here in a year and yeah I'll do anything I'll just buy a house next to next to my house you got this new facility just get him a house in the facility just get a whole you know build an apartment in here yeah like special special advisor it sounds like it's a really cool relationship that you have with them.
And it's awesome. And my mom.
It's my mom, too. I mean, my mom's the greatest ever.
And between my mom and my dad, yeah, just in the relationship they have with our kids. I mean, there's so many times, I mean, living right next door to their grandparents.
I mean, my kids would be down there and, you know, my dad would take kids to school. He would go to their games, you know, the conversations, you know, driving, you know, my son Jack to his baseball games, me and my dad watching baseball games.
It's like we were at the church of baseball, you know, in the, in the summer time watching, watching games on Sunday that, I mean, that was just, just, just priceless. I mean, I just got to the point where I'm, I'm taping those, those, those conversations.
That's my favorite part is the ride to the game and the ride back, you know, just talking to, talking to Jack or to Addie or to Katie or to Johnny. I love those conversations.
I really don't even care that much what happens during the game. I mean, the best time for me is the ride to and the ride back.
And my dad would be right there. Yeah.
You know, so often it's just the three of us doing that. It's just, it's priceless.
Yeah. It's completely priceless.
Unless you catch a foul ball at the game. That's probably better, right? That's good too.
Are you still wearing a glove? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
You got to wear a glove when you go to MLB. Yeah, yeah.
I always wear a glove. I mean, that's like – your chances improve dramatically if you have a glove at a baseball game.
There's no question about it. Success is when preparation meets opportunity, right? I just got to change.
I mean, it's just I've only gotten one foul ball. I've got 22 career foul balls, like legitimately in a game, a foul ball, a home run.
But it happened like during the game, not batting practice. I don't count those.
So, but I really probably I've only gotten one in the last 10 years oh some people are saying you've fallen off yeah yeah it's it's uh it's i've done it to myself really i mean i get uh i've gone a lot of games bob melvin's a really good friend of mine uh played on the same um uh uh you know team uh um what's american legion team when we were in high school he He was a couple years older, and he was the star player, and I wasn't. But anyway, he's been great to me.
And I just went to the Angels game. I mean, they were great to me.
You know, Padres, I got to know some people there. The tickets they get me are too good.
Oh. They're too good.
Yeah. They're in a spot where you just, I mean,
your percentage of getting a foul ball is, I mean, it would have to like, it would like have to.
And the nets now.
Yeah.
The nets.
It would have to hit off and then bounce back.
So you got to ask for worse tickets.
I got to get worse tickets.
Yeah.
I got to get like left field.
You got to be on the bleachers.
I mean, I'm in a suite and the only chance I got is if the,
if the ball were to come through the suite, you know, just over, just over the screen. Are you bringing a glove to the suite? Yeah.
I'm ready. I'm ready.
But I mean, I'm not putting myself in position to be in position. Yeah, we got to get that fixed.
22 and then only one in the last 10 years. That's fallen off.
I know. I got to get to some better spots.
When you said that you taped your conversation, were you being literal? Do you record your conversations that you have with your family? Yeah. Yeah.
I don't even listen to them right afterwards, but I'm just keeping them. I'm just keeping them.
I got to start doing that. I just want them, down the road that those, those, those rides to the car, listen to them talk about the game or, you know, what they were doing or the excitement of, you know, like that they had.
It's the best. Yeah.
And I always got to get my, I, now I got to call my dad and I got, you know, to be taping it, taping it and which is i can do because it comes through the comes through the car yeah but yeah that was just that's just priceless those are that's that's just priceless moments and uh and my mom too she's uh i mean she's just they just give this wisdom and and stuff um that if yeah if i don't write it down i'm gonna forget it but yeah my mom's my mom actually has given me the best advice i've ever gotten as a player or a coach and that is you know it's one play at a time one game at a time one day at a time and she texts me that every before every single game like the morning of every game i mean i need that text yeah that's a reminder there's one play at a time one game at a a time. Yeah.
So a football question here. Obviously, it's new.
You guys just got started not too long ago here in L.A., but is there anything that's changed, anything big that's changed in the NFL from the way that you did business back on the Niners compared to now? That's a great question. I've been asked it a few times uh by uh by lots of people um from from the time i played from or time i coached at the niners to now i would say uh probably the biggest change is 2013-14 i didn't think the nfl could get any bigger than it already was i didn't think it could be any more popular than it already was.
But it's doubled.
It is 2X at least in popularity.
And you can see in what the salary cap is,
twice as much.
And just the popularity of the game of football.
I mean, it's awesome. And right around that time, too, just the perception of football, too, and the fun that everybody has and the popularity.
I saw it firsthand. And back then, football had a little bit of a crisis back then.
Is it too dangerous? Is it too much of a sport that a mother wouldn't want their son to play? Then I went into the college ranks in 2015. I saw it just growing from there.
Everywhere I went around the country, it's like, well, football is Football is popular. It's still king.
It's never been that popular. You know, it's like – and it was – it just – and a lot of the rule changes have been good.
I mean, it's definitely – it's definitely a safer game. Yeah.
You know, the horse collars out, the blows to the head. I mean, some of these rules of engagement, you know, are so good and so much better.
And, you know, player safety is the most important thing.
But I just see it coming back, and they're doing all the right things.
And, you know, Commissioner Goodell has done a fabulous job.
Brian Rolap, I don't know if you know him.
He is another great, great guy at the NFL.
You know, very high up. I had a chance to coach his son, Will, at Michigan.
And, I mean, there's just fabulous people that have made this league. And everybody's made it.
And, you know, the players, there's no question they're bigger, stronger, faster, about that um you know we us older players guys who played a long time ago we still maybe say are they tougher are they tougher i don't know i have no you know it's all subjective yeah yeah uh we probably aren't as tough as these guys are because they're you know they're just so much more harder to break you know because the way they train yeah you know and coach herbert uh and and others you know this and just just their you know passion love and desire for the game is is is at an all-time high as well uh i'll tell you a quick story zion johnson who um is our starting guard, he had a root canal at 2 o'clock. I think he got done at like 2, 2.30, you know, and was out to practice, practice, you know, didn't miss a rep.
And then we did conditioning at the end. You know, we say, hey, if you're in league condition, go on this sideline A.
If you're in good condition, you know, go on sideline B. If you're in average condition, you know, go on sideline C.
And he went to A and, you know, led the group, led the offensive, excuse me, led the offensive lineman. It's just like, okay, who would have done that? Yeah.
I mean, most normal human beings probably would have taken a week off.
A month.
Who weren't?
A month.
A year.
Most football players, you know, most all football players would have at least taken a couple days.
Yeah.
You know, after a root canal.
Yeah.
And just about all would have at least taken that practice off, you know, an hour or so after. So, I mean, I can't even say that we were tougher back then.
So what's really changed? And the equipment's changed, and the equipment is much better. But I think, you know, still the same is the work ethic and, you know, the passion to be good and get really good at what you do.
Get good at football. Get good at your craft.
So a couple things have changed, but I think more things are the same. You left out one small detail about the game has grown so much since like 2015, 2016.
A little podcast called Part of My Take started in 2016.
Came on the scene.
With the mission to grow the game.
How much did that raise the time?
We always say grow the game.
That's the big thing for us.
So, yeah, Goodell.
Well, take a deep long bow.
I believe that.
There's no doubt.
We're on the next play.
We're on the next play.
You guys are.
That's good.
But sometimes, you know, you can't say it, but allow me to say it.
There's no question about it.
Thank you. I mean, no, we're on the next play.
We're on the next play. You guys are.
That's good. Yeah.
We don't. But sometimes, you know, you can't say it, but let me allow me to say it.
There's no question about it. There's, you know.
Yeah. Like I said, I mean, all of a sudden I got, you know, like got kind of got kind of popular.
You know, people in their late teens or 20s and and guy. No one knew what football was until part of my take that's exactly right i i can personally vouch for you because i asked like several people and players my own players were like starting to look at me like i was cool you know like i start calling myself cool jim like these guys think you're cool jim yeah yeah cool jim now and i in big part to uh to youtube we appreciate that.
I appreciate you. Yeah, I love that.
So what about the new kickoff rule? Are you ready for it? Now your former player, Sam Schwartstein, was the one who came up with this idea with the XFL. Sam, my man.
Yeah. He's a creative mind.
Sam actually sent me, I asked him, because we've known Sam for a really long time. And I think he actually helped us the first time we had you on back in Michigan in 2017.
Yeah. So I asked him if he had any training camp stories.
He said that you have three rules. I don't know if you still have these three rules for training camp.
So you can tell me. He said the first rule was no cupcaking, which is talking with your girl on the phone during bed check uh number two is never cut the chow line and number number three is never bare ass another man's stool that those are those are three rules still in existence okay all right yeah yeah i mean yeah that's a rule we had to make that a rule yeah never never bare ass He also said that you you once told him that you uh you know what's amazing about that is uh is uh that the guys are listening yeah but they that that sam remembers yeah oh yeah that's cool he told us he told sometimes you talk to him and like are they even listening yeah are they getting any of this stuff he told us a great story that when you first got to stanford you you stripped stanford of all the like traditions and everything because you're like i you guys are losers and i have to figure out what makes you losers and then we'll build you back up i don't ever i don't i you know i can't sounds like you might have and you then built them back up just trying to find the common denominator of what what is what is wrong with this so we have to make make it better yeah i mean just just the traditions that weren't helping us win right uh is the ones i remember yeah how is that helping us to do that um and and one of them i mean one of them was like if they had like you know uh because i always have this i mean there's no fighting there's a no fighting punch punching you know rule you know one it's going to get us a 15 yard penalty to ever to ever punch another man but like i mean let's think about i mean the intelligence of punching a guy who's wearing a helmet or, you know, a face mask.
I mean, you will do nothing to him other than, you know, break your own hand. Yeah.
So, yeah, that was a rule. Then, you know, the ingenious Stanford guys, you know, they decided that they were going to, since they couldn't fight, you know, and throw punches on the field, that they would take it into the locker room and they would make a circle and they would make the two guys fight in the locker room.
So, yeah, I got wind of that. And that tradition ceases to exist, you know.
And some of the other South Mork things that, uh you know that weren't helping us uh yeah they we had uh yeah with that stamp the stanford walk was another one that um yeah that i i took off was which was you know kind of like right the last minute before like team warm-ups and we were walking we're walking kind of like a half a mile in full equipment and uh you know yeah let's not do that yeah yeah let's how about how we do this we make our locker room at the stadium better you know and we you know we walk over in the in the sweatsuit kept the walk yeah we're walking by the the grove there and uh you know shaded nice yeah leisurely stroll instead of being in full equipment for a 15-minute walk.
I think that's a better idea. Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that.
No. And the other one I think had changed, too, was, you know, we were playing UCLA, my first game ever at Stanford.
And we're on the visitor sideline, you know, staring right into the sun. It was at least, I'm looking at this going, that's about 20 degrees cooler on that other side where the press box is.
And we're here in the sun for, you know, a good solid three quarters, you know, until the sun goes down, until we got any relief. Yeah.
So, well, we couldn't couldn't do that because you know the band had to be in the opposite side and uh and uh or some you know that was the thing yeah we'll just move the here's what we do we just move to the band to the other corner and yeah the little thing just get us in the shade yeah well the season ticket colders like they're gonna love having their own team on their sidelines. Yeah.
And they're going to love winning football. Yeah, those were the traditions I remember.
There was some silly stuff, and then there was just some good practical stuff to try to help us win. Make winners.
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Okay, back to Jim Harbaugh. I also, I had never heard this story, and I'd love to hear your telling of it, but you created a rivalry flag against when you were at San Diego.
Yeah, that's true. With Dayton, because we love this.
This. UConn and UCF had this where Bob Diaco just created a trophy out of thin air and UCF never said like, hey, we're playing for this trophy.
UConn did the same thing with San Diego and Dayton where you just created a flag and you're like, this is what we're playing for. And the other coach was like, what? What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah.
That happened. Yeah.
What made you do that that what did the other coach say when you told them like hey we're actually playing for this uh we hadn't beaten Dayton in 10 years um and we were like man this is the team we gotta this is the team we gotta be you know we gotta this if we want to win the championship they want they're winning it every year, we better, you man, this is the team we got to be. If we want to win the championship, they're winning it every year.
We better set our sights to get. And if we can get playing at their level, then good chance we'll be able to beat the other ones.
So that was kind of the idea. And it was just like, hey, we don't have any like trophy games.
There's no trophy. I mean, you big 10 where there's uh there's trophies every week's a trophy stanford yeah i mean you have the axe uh you know it was just a that was just a cool thing so we didn't have that and i said by golly uh we're gonna make a make a trophy here for the usd dayton game so i just i don't know where it came from it's's just one of those ideas came up with, let's make a flag, a big old flag that was half SD and half Dayton.
So we made it and we had won the year before. So I said, hey, we made, I just told our own guys, hey, we made this trophy flag.
You guys won it. So whole that whole week of practice we had the we had the flag and i'll never remember so cool tim drev now uh who's our offensive coordinator at the time you know we took our bus to the san diego airport and he he had the great idea of he was on the curve you know waving the flag we were flying commercial yeah you know at USD.
Anyway, fast forward to the game. We're at Dayton now.
And, you know, we had the flag. Like, we had put it right behind our bench, you know, secured it with some tape and stuff.
And it's flapping back there. And, yeah, so we won the game and run across.
uh hey mike you know good game and you're probably wondering what that flag is that they're that our guy now our guys were out like carrying it around and doing stuff with it they said i said we made this flag out of respect for the the rivalry between usd and dayton i since we just won this one, we'll keep it. But next year, if you guys win, then it would be yours.
I probably should have called you about this. And then you won it again.
You never gave up the flag when you were there. No.
We won it.
If you had lost that game though, that first
rivalry game with the flag, would you have
given him the flag? Oh, I didn't make
it until after we won the first one.
Then he made it.
Then you made it.
Really use that as motivation for the next year.
Then you go to Dayton and you've got the flag.
He doesn't know that you've got the flag.
He doesn't know I had the flag.
I guess for
our own purposes, we were using it
Thank you. Then you go to Dayton and you've got the flag.
He doesn't know that you've got the flag. He doesn't know I had the flag.
And I guess for our own purposes, we were using it. We didn't want to motivate them to think that there was a flag.
They didn't know it was a flag game. I don't know if this was a flag game.
I would love to know where that flag is right now. Maybe you do.
If somebody has that, I would buy that. What I read was Dayton won it the year after you left and they took it and then it never came back.
Yeah, I think the two coaches after that got it. Does this mean anything? No, it didn't mean anything to you.
No. I think it ended up in Coach's garage.
Somebody said that it was like he was... We've got to find this.
I think I read an article where Mike was using it to rake leaves onto it. As a leaf collector.
Somebody out there probably has this flag. I would be interested in buying that flag.
Maybe we make you a flag here. You got a rivalry against Kansas City.
You're kind of like what Dayton was doing. They've been on fire.
We do a flag game. We do a Chargers-Ch we'll do it in our studio we'll just flip it over back and forth you guys have done cool stuff like that we can make you the flag but PFT asked a good question if you had lost that second game would you have given them the flag they didn't even know existed I would have yes I would have given them that flag that they didn't know existed I would have he's handed it to them like here you go I said yeah we made that flag.
That they didn't know existed. I would have.
He's handed it to him like, here you go. I said, yeah, we made this flag.
You won. Now it's your flag.
We'll play for this. We'll play for this every year.
Yeah. I would have.
I would have done that. I love it.
Last time we sat down and talked to you. And there's no tougher thing than having to give.
Yeah. So your rival.
Yeah. That feeling of giving the brown jug.
Yeah. Fortunately, have well as a player i did yeah when i was playing but coaching we didn't have to we didn't have to give that up and the uh yeah the the paul bunyan yeah uh we had to give michigan state that yeah uh yeah that that time oh that one game was not bringing it up how long it take you to? I mean, that was just insane.
I'm not fully over that. I'm not fully over that.
Yeah, we got a punt blocked with 10 seconds left in the game. It's left an indelible bruise there.
Yeah, that was, I mean, one of the, I mean, top five worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life you know it's good life that's top five yeah but yeah it led to some you know yeah it led to uh you know limiting that eliminating that that pro that uh college punt you know that spread yeah that's yeah it looks like yeah every time they do it you're like how are they gonna block this we're not gonna do this spread punt ever again we're going back we're going back good old-fashioned pro pro style punting yeah from here on out yes um and our yeah punters got to be at 14 yards he can't be at 16 you can tell this one bothers you yeah i mean you think of all the all the yeah i play that scenario out uh quite a bit yeah but it helps you get better you evolve one thing you evolved on was uh you used to be anti
chicken yeah that's a fact on chickens because it was a nervous little bird and when i heard you
talk about it i was like you know what he's right you are what you eat right so you gain the energy
of the animal if it's a nervous bird that's gonna going to be bad for my, my fast twitch muscles. But then you change your tune on it.
Change back. Yeah.
Because you admire, you respect chickens now, right? Correct. So what flipped the switch for you? Getting chickens, raising chickens from chicks and, and the respect I have for chickens.
mean i really the um i mean i almost put i mean you probably got to put bees a little bit above yeah above chickens yeah but i mean i they're in the same ballparks huh why bees above chickens because they pollinate probably what 80 of the world's to look at this and go, uh, this guy's, this guy's weird or something. No, no, no, but here's the whole, the entire thing was Brian Jennings, who I love dearly.
Uh, he was our, he was our long snapper at, uh, the San Francisco 49ers. And he was, he was one of those players.
i just had to talk to every day got to be around
and just you know get his get his insights on on life and and things and um he had this great
breakfast that he would eat and it was just it was steak on toast and um you know protein he'd
get his carbohydrates and it really tasted good and i i started you know doing it that way and
then one day i i had chick i was eating a chicken something chicken sandwich or something like that and and uh he goes yeah you really shouldn't eat chicken and then he he was the one who explained to me that chicken chickens were nervous bird and it was it was part of their um their immune system and their nervous system was just you know you could probably could probably make that case, you know, with the pecking and things.
But and I, yeah, I kind of maintain that, you know, chicken's a nervous bird, you know, and kind of bought really bought into what what Brian was was saying. He had this whole thing documented how when the United States went from meat eaters, meat consumption mainly, to a higher rate of chicken consumption, that nervousness went up.
You would have to get to Brian Cheney.
We've got to talk about correlation and causation just a little bit.
Get to get with Brian maybe, and maybe he can explain it. But I bought into it up until the point where it was the pandemic.
It was Easter. And I went to Tractor Supply, got eight chicks right in the box, and we raised them.
And the kids loved them for about a month. And then after that, it was me exclusively taking care of them.
And, yeah, just the production that they have. I mean, it is an egg every 26 hours, you know.
And, you know, they're low maintenance. I mean, they're not high maintenance.
I mean, it's low maintenance and high production with the chicken. And there were some times in there where I actually felt like the chickens liked me and liked seeing me.
And I went to a lot to make their life better and kept their pen good. and enjoyed working with them
with the chickens. And yeah.
It was a huge relief for us because we got to eat chicken again. Yeah.
Because we stopped eating chicken when you told us not to eat chicken. Go back.
I was wrong. I was wrong.
I think I was dead wrong. I like that.
Yeah. I was dead wrong.
You have also, what are you on now? What's the latest thing that you're fascinated by or something that you think you're ahead of the curve with, an insight into life or nature? I just like living that strenuous life of like, you know, always trying to think and always trying to have an idea or work or, you know, just feel like, you know, you just got to go. And, you know, I love being on my feet, love doing stuff.
I mean, I love thinking of something and then doing it.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see.
I'll let you know if something works or if it doesn't.
But yeah, I don't know, just that feeling that you can't slow down.
And in a moment's notice, something could change. So just kind of keep going about it that way.
Are we still watching SpongeBob and respecting everything SpongeBob does? Yeah, not as much. Not, he's more on the, he's evolved more to the YouTube and, you know, the different daredevil things that are on that.
Are we worried? People screaming, you know, because they, what the heck? Are we worried his work ethic's going to be a little off that he doesn't have SpongeBob as someone he can look up to? Because you told us when we, I think it was maybe the second time you were on, that SpongeBob, he's someone you look up to. He's a hero.
There's no doubt about it. I mean, when you talk about attacking each day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind, yeah, that's SpongeBob.
And it's unknown to unknown to mankind you know it's not of mankind it's right you know that's sponge it's yeah yeah somebody i mean i'm yeah i think that enthusiasm comes from you know from god it's like that jesus juice you know and i just i had that that you know something you'd get in a good sermon you know where you feel it really feel it you know and and i and i feel it in a in a in a good sermon at church um but also from football i get that kind of that kind of juice you know that kind of that love of the game is that as well like training camp being back like just the pads being on is that something that like the first day where you're like man this is this is where I should be this is this is the feeling that I need yeah yeah without a doubt um yeah I always I get that I always get that feeling you know and it's as a player I got it um and it's not as good as a coach you know that that but it's the next best thing you know but i get it as a coach yeah i mean uh and i i don't know i just some people say it's like it's not worth to find you and you know it's it shouldn't be i understand that that that difference you know uh that case but i i actually like myself better you know when i'm you know like when i played you know, like you put on that armor, put on that helmet, you put on that jersey. You know, you look in the mirror and go, Jim Harbaugh, football player, you know, like, you know, today's the day.
I mean, great things are great things are going to happen. Yeah.
Somebody says, have a nice day. And I say, well, that seems a little risky.
I think I'm just going to make it a make it a you know great day yeah or take the try out of it and you know and i when i put on that when i put on that that uh that uniform i mean it felt like putting on a you know superman you know kind of a kind of a yeah cape yeah you know if you will so and i still get some of that from coat. Put on my outfit and my hat and get my whistle and coaching football today.
Yeah. I mean, you got to rise to that challenge.
We had a debate when we were watching you in the national title game, seeing how jacked up you were on the sideline before the game yeah we thought that if they if the ncaa allowed it you could have put on pads and probably played that whole game do you think you could could have gotten out there and been like you know what i'm just gonna quarterback today i'm ready to go now now and even even the feeling of like winning that game um i mean it was it was so it was so good but it it's it's not even it's it's long past being for myself you know it's like i can see jj mccarthy or blake quorum uh or any one of those players you know this is their opportunity to be a champion to go undefeated, for them to know that.
And for their mom and dad, for Jim and Megan McCarthy to know that their son is a champion.
For each of those parents, uncles, grandparents, that they get to feel that joy of their son
or their grandson or their friend, whatever it is.
And for themselves to know, you did that. Yeah.
down or pull it in but you did that and um that's that's where all the joy that's where all the joy comes from as uh is is is them experiencing that yeah and that that game was an ass kicking that was that was a beautiful thing to watch at what point in the game did you realize they're not stopping us? I mean, that's my goal. My goal is that we get ahead, we stay ahead, we get so far ahead that I can't screw it up.
And I guess when Mikey Samuels still picked off that pass and returned it 50 yards, hey, we're we're gonna win this if we don't screw up this yeah if we don't give a kickoff return here you know and that kind of thing or we don't uh so yeah i guess uh you know you never you never really feel that until it's till your your team is taking a taking a knee and in victory you know um but uh i don't know somewhere somewhere along the line I felt it. And, you know, that's one of those feelings, you know, that's not going to wash off in the shower, you know.
That stays with you. That stays with you.
And it was crazy watching Michigan this year. It was just like the tackling, the physicality, the running the football.
It was just – it felt like it was a perfect team built in your mold. Even we were talking to Coach Herbert about the Penn State game, which I know you were watching on TV, but running the football down their throat and being like, you can't stop this, we're going to keep running it, had to have felt like everything I've wanted in a football team.
Yeah, I mean, this is the only part that I'm uncomfortable with is like that team was in my mold or something like that. I mean, these guys were so much better than I was and so much more connected, you know, than just about any team I'd ever been on.
So unselfish, you know mean talk about adversity i mean uh you know the uh they overcame it at every point i mean it got to the point where you know it was it was white noise you know and and then it to the point where you couldn't even hear it you know um and that that i mean that all came from their parents and their families that poured all that into them and it came from them you know who they who the who they were and uh they just kept kept getting better at at at being them you know and they never got a big head uh and it was it was uh was tremendous and you know to the extent of like the other thing people say as like, oh, you've won everywhere you've been or this and that kind of stuff, it's only because you have good players. I mean, there is no good coaches with bad players.
I mean, it's all about the players. And I learned that from Dave Adolph when I was a young coach, the great Dave Adolph.
When I put up a Mount Rushmore of coaches, I mean, if I'm going to the very tip top, I mean, it's Jack Harbaugh, it's John Harbaugh, it's Dave Adolph, Bo Schembechler. I mean, those four are right at the very top.
And he said that. I said, Dave, how do we make this team USD? How do we get better? He goes, you got to get better players.
And he said, there's only two ways to do that. I mean, you got to coach them better or you got to recruit better players.
You know, pro football, you got to coach them better or, you know, you got to acquire players through the draft, et cetera. It's just – but, yeah, there's no – you can't be a good coach without great players.
Yeah. I noticed you left Tom Crean off your Mount Rushmore of coaches.
Tom Crean is right there. He is at the top.
For us too, yes. Yes.
There's no question about it. Tom Crean, Jack Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Dave Adov, Bo Schembechler, and I said those four football coaches.
Coaches, now we're going to just straight coaches. Yeah.
Tom Crane is standing right there next to those four great coaches that I met. You would look great on Mount Rushmore, Tom Crane.
Yes. Yes.
Got a good tan. And we'll put you on there, too.
Yeah, you can be on there. Because you can't be far away from your dad.
Or your brother. Well, you got to win a Super Bowl.
Yeah. Yeah.
That hurt a little. It's good.
It motivates me. There's more you got to do.
There's more you got to do. Absolutely.
You got him on Thanksgiving week this year, right? What's that? Thanksgiving week this year. I think Monday Night Football before Thanksgiving.
November 25th. You know the date.
Exactly. Yeah.
Absolutely know the date. And there's a little back story why I know that date so well, because that's going to be my parents' 63rd wedding anniversary.
Oh, wow. That was mean by the NFL.
63. No, I think it's great by the NFL.
It's just – they're so good at stuff like that. The last time John and I played a regular season game was 2011.
It was a Thursday night game. It was on Thanksgiving, and the date was November 25th.
Wow. They they're doing.
They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing.
It's all there. Yeah.
Are mom and dad going to be at the game? Yeah, they'll be at the game. Have to be.
God willing, and the creek don't rise, Jack and Jackie Harbaugh will be there. Yeah.
That's great. I got a couple factor fiction real quick, rapid fire, because you didn't speak to the media in Indianapolis for the combine, but you had so many players at the combine.
So there was a story I read where they asked players for stories about you as a coach. Did you ever get a haircut during a recruiting visit in the player's living room? Yes.
Samaj Morgan's house. No, waitaden mcgregor mcgregor's house his mom was a hairstylist and you just were like yeah i needed what happened there yeah i got i got i got a haircut i needed one i needed one i've been on the recruiting trail for i'm sorry about that yeah that was that was uh that was brayden's mom and uh yeah it was great haircut
yeah we also they also was a story from michael barrett that uh brayden also got me uh the tattoo oh yeah that's right do it but his guy did yeah that uh you were on the recruiting trail and hungry and you went to michael barrett's house and you ate an entire pizza yourself I might have been pretty hungry
I mean
that might have happened
yeah okay and then the last one was uh josh wallace said that he came in one day and you were in the ice tub full khakis and polo yeah that uh these are great stories i don't i don't see the problem with it no i don't see you just finish your workout get in the ice ice bath yeah yeah i love it and these are great stories i don't i don't see the problem with it no i don't see the problem you just finish your workout get in the ice ice bath yeah yeah i love it and these are i mean these are they're uh they're almost like i mean they're athletic like athletic pants yeah are you are you getting away from the khakis or would the khakis be regular i mean just the color i just wanted to change it up sometimes and not be you know what's going to happen when the regular season they're the same pant as the khaki okay but i just but is this going to be the color during the regular season i've gone darker lately yeah okay it's the new me these are things we need to know before because these are important things i've gone darker the last three years the last three years i've gone to the the blue the blue i mean they're still khaki that's true but they're just the colors it's the color is different that's your big change yeah i don't you know you don't want You don't want to get stale. Yeah.
You got to change your khaki color. You don't want to be like burnt meat or over right fruit.
Yeah, then people expect it, and then you got to change it up because then they'll start game planning for the khakis. You got to change it up.
Yeah. I don't mind you wearing them in the cold tub either.
You're going to wash them at the end of the day. Right.
Like those pants, they've outlived their usefulness for that day. Might as well just get them wet right then.
Yeah. I mean, I don't see the problem.
Yeah, I don't see the problem at all. There's no problem.
They're pretty good at the – I mean, yeah. I've loved how you're discussing players and the health concerns with the media because you've got a phrase that you go back to.
They're working through something, which I think is a very, you can use that for anything. So I'm just going to start saying that about myself.
We're all working through something, right? Because it's like a game of poker that you have to play sometimes where you don't want to give up too much to the media. But if you say we're working through something, then they're working through something.
It's just a matter of I'm not qualified. I'm not qualified to say anything more than they're working through something.
I mean, there's, I don't have a medical degree. I mean, look at my, I look at my office and there's, there's a lot of stuff in it and some, some things I've accomplished, but I mean, there is no, there's no medical degree in there.
I mean, I didn't even take, I didn't take human, you know, uh, I didn't take biology
or any of those in, in college either.
I mean, it's just, it's just, I don't think I'm even qualified to relay what the, what
the doctors say.
I mean, uh, or, or the trainers say, it was just, it's just a, it's just a question of
what you're qualified to do.
And I'm not, I'm not qualified on it. Yeah.
Yeah. That's HIPAA.
You can't discuss them. That's what I would say.
Yeah. It's against the law.
Yeah, I mean, is or isn't. I mean, we're going to definitely comply with all the – I mean, it's pretty transparent when it comes to the games.
Yeah. But, no, it's just a matter of how uh how is he feeling how's big cat feeling today well i i'm not qualified to to search his feelings either you know i'm always working through something yeah the cat's working through something that's that's really official report when i look at it that's that's all i'm really qualified to yeah yeah All right.
So this has been unbelievable. We love having you on.
I had one last question. It's the Chevy.com question for Grit Week.
Chevy Silverado, best truck out there. So my last question for you is you told us when we first interviewed you, all you cared about was I want to play football for as long as I can play football, then coach football, then die.
Has there been any change in that, or is it the same of? No, still on track. Still on track.
Still on track. Coach football, then die.
God willing, and the creek don't rise, you know, we're on track. That's it.
It's just the love. That's, I think, like, because you are, for us, one of the ultimate football guys for that quote and for everything you do for the game of football.
But football means that much to you. Love it.
Love football. And I thought it was really cool this week.
Tony Jefferson, who's played for the Ravens, played for my brother John, and now he's playing here. And asked him the same question.
What's the difference in them? A lot of people go to whatever they go to, whatever their perception is. I really like what Tony said.
Tony said they both love's – I think it's really accurate and true. And, yeah, that meant a lot.
I think, you know, that's somebody who's seen both of us. And I know my brother loves football.
Yeah. And, yeah, I was – it was a very nice compliment, you know, for him to say that.
Yeah. Yeah.
And, Coach, we've got to ask you about the RV because we drove up here. We have an RV.
It's Grit Week. Oh, yeah.
We need to know where we're staying. We don't have a great spot for it.
I know that you had a good spot. I don't know if you're still in the RV there or you moved out.
But we're looking for a spot for the RV. Yeah.
So do you have any to put your rv yeah yeah about 150 yards that's where you were the south is where you could go yeah yeah now i was in huntington beach i was uh i was right across the street from the from the beach and the and the great ocean and uh big blue you know it was right there it was it was it was it was great um so i love rv and uh you know i wish i could do it more that was a great four-month window to um to be in the rv it's a simple life you know that's the best life right now it's not in the cars for me uh with uh a whole family still four kids at home and uh and a full-time job but uh yeah someday someday i think about that that would be yeah just traveling around in an rv i just hopped on that opportunity yeah and i was a big fan of the rockford files growing upiles growing up. Jim Rockford living in the trailer at the beach in Malibu.
That's the way I grew up. That was my favorite TV show.
And, you know, you're just sitting there laying on your stomach in front of the TV, you know, watching the cars and the palm trees and his trailer. You know, like, yeah, someday I want to live in California.
Someday I want to live in California. And if I ever do, then I'm going to live in a trailer like Jim Rock.
That's like – Yeah, it's a core memory. 11-year-old Jim, you know.
Well, Coach Harbaugh, best of luck. Thank you.
You know we're the biggest fans, and we appreciate you anytime you come on the show and go win some football games. Amen.
Yeah. Appreciate that.
And right back at you. I love it.
Right back at you. You guys are the best.
Just keep doing you. Keep doing you.
It's working. And piece of advice, want to get a little bit better at something just work a little bit harder at it and whatever you do don't get a big head yeah that's a trap well that's a deep dark lonely trap and we also i should just say because i don't want you to think that we're scumbags we might have offered gritty guys don't get big heads yeah no they don't we we might have offered coach ben herbert 10 million dollars come be the Barstool Sports Trainer.
So, I just want to let you know we might try to poach him. We're going to try to poach him.
I don't have the $10 million to pay him, but we'll find a way because we want him to make us tough. Yeah, I'm going to have to counteract it somehow.
I'm going to have to find a way. I can't lose him.
I don't think he will. I don't want to ever be forced.
I'd do it if I absolutely had to. But I don't ever want to coach a football team without Ben Herbert being our strength coach.
Yeah. I'll tell you I think you're safe because I think he liked us, but I don't he really liked us because we we told him that a lot of our day is sitting on the couch eating like you know chicken wings and hanging out and i love ben herbert yeah he's the best i love he's the best he's i mean all right we'll keep we'll let you keep him we'll let you keep him yeah well if i i'll put him on mount rushmore i mean he's really okay there we go he really needs to be there we can't compete with that.
Yeah. That's it.
Done. Tom Crean, Ben Herbert.
Yeah. John Harbaugh.
There it is. So that's the new Mount Rushmore.
I love it. Thank you coach.
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It's a must for football fans. Okay, Mount Rushmore of things that you wish you weren't too old for.
Max is running away with it. Max, you're running away with Mount Rushmore season.
First time you ever ran away with it. Yeah.
I also just had my notes up on my phone and Hank definitely tried to look at them hank uh i got a question for you because we just had to switch out cameras so we had to take a quick break and you said the stock market is crashing i wish maybe we knew anything about econ and we could actually know what's happening yeah hank that's a good point what's happening black monday but we don't we're economically illiterate because we've never been taught. I tried to tell you in the airport.
That was actually the first thing I said. What'd you say? I said, Black Monday is coming.
Get ready. But you understand, we don't have the building blocks to understand this because you never taught us.
Right. What is Black Monday? It's when everyone loses all their money that they've saved up.
On a Monday?
Does it always have to be on a Monday?
No, just this Monday.
Could it be Tuesday?
In theory.
Yeah.
Okay.
Could it be a Friday?
It could be.
So why is it doing a Black Monday?
People are just panicking and selling stocks.
Everyone's just panicking.
I have no idea. Why can't they just turn it off like they did when everyone was making money off GameStop? Can't they just turn the stock market off? They're going to stop selling shares.
Of the stock market? Yeah. Yeah.
Just don't turn it on tomorrow. I hope that Tuesday's better.
But now is a good buying opportunity. True.
I'm going to invest in one share of the stock market tomorrow. This is when we get rich, boys.
Yeah. Buy the dip.
This is the greatest opportunity of our lifetimes. Hank, are you going to ever explain to us econ? Go.
I will. Okay.
Not today. Okay.
But not tonight. You kind of just did with Black Monday.
No, he didn't say. All he said was Black Monday.
He didn't say anything else. He said that it's going to be bad.
Right, but he just read that. He told me earlier that Warren Buffett sold, so that means other people are going to sell.
You did teach Max what Black Monday was. What? That this was going to happen? You were hammered, so I didn't know what you were saying.
You did say that. I mean, yeah, but we're going to have to buy the dip.
Wait, hey, you called this? He did. He's been talking about it since I've seen him.
You called the recession? He did on Saturday. Yeah, you're a fucking genius when it comes to the economy.
You're the new Warren Buffett, so teach us. Okay, things you wish you weren't too old for.
Max is running away with this. I'm in second.
PFT's in third. Hank is in fourth.
How are we feeling, Hank? I feel great. I feel relaxed.
I was able to get in the right headspace over vacation. I'm ready for a big second half of the year.
Max also did say, let's just put this out there. There's not going to be any more food drafts.
Was Friday a food draft? Hold on. Hold on.
I am finished. Max also did say, I'm trying to figure out my magic number.
Oh, that's too early. Early to do that.
Early to do that. Yeah, this has potential to be heartbreaking.
I mean, this would be an all-time blown lead if you ended up in fourth, because it doesn't matter if you're second or third. I know, and all the Philly teams are kind of doing that this year.
It's impossible. It's impossible.
It is impossible. It's not going to happen.
Let's say A.W.L. Let me be the first to congratulate Max on winning Mount Rushmore season.
Bullshit.
Congrats, Max.
You're the one who said you're figuring out your magic number.
I actually don't think it is possible.
No, I don't either.
So you have nothing to worry about.
Hank would just have to go on a heater.
Heater, yeah.
Yeah, so you're good.
Hank, have you figured out where your tragic number is?
No.
No, I mean, you're close.
I'm losing you by like a point. Yeah, I'm only up like five points, and you're up two your tragic number is? No.
No, I mean, you're closing by like a point.
Yeah, I'm only up like five points, and you're up two points on them.
Who goes first?
PFT.
And then who goes second?
Me.
And then who goes third?
We're in the correct order right now.
We're in the correct order.
Let's go, boys.
We're good.
We're good.
Things you wish you weren't too old for.
I like this.
This is open-ended.
All right, things I wish I was not too old for. First pick is open-ended all right things i wish i was not too old for first pick uh going to three day long music festivals good and lala was all over the timeline this weekend the chap the chapelle rhone uh concert when she's spelling out h-o-t-t was it h-o-t-d-o-g-s that what Max was saying? Yep.
It looked like the best time ever, but it also looked like the last place on earth that I would want to go right now at my age. Yes.
Max just got that. You got it? No, I'm trying to think.
Say it. Do you get it? H-O-T-D-O-G-S.
I love hot dogs. They're the best.
Nice. I saw someone on TikTok saying that.
Shout out that person. Shout out that person.
saying that Shout out that person Okay good pick because I agree with that Yeah I had that on my list The one thing I do appreciate I think we can still participate in When it comes to these three day long music festivals Is seeing old school awesome NBA jerseys And then just buying those and wearing those around Like when I see a Brian Reeves jersey at Lala I'm like damn that's sick Do you think you're too old to go to one day no one day one day's a concert i can do a one day i can do a one day music festival i'm gonna do that riot fest this year i think so i gotta pick out either friday or saturday for that but three days in a row just feels like crazy what do you do on the third day yeah it's part of your face off all i would and it's four days now really yeah i would just on thursday i would show up and just complain all day on the third day um okay good pick my first pick uh sleepovers sleepovers with your friends okay too old for it would be cool though those were the best when you were kids aren't we doing that this week we're not sleeping in the same like room it's also work and also hank's not anyone's friend yeah but sleepovers were the best i wish that i wish it was uh socially acceptable to just every now and then be like let's just watch some games play some video games have a sleepover i had sober sleepovers with your boys because sometimes you know i guess maybe not you with the family and stuff but i'll still have i'll still have sleepovers with my boys sometimes yeah drunk yeah but that's like you were too drunk to go home yeah like they're like staying over for like a night or whatever yeah it's also like the little things like you know being a little too loud then the dad comes down and yells at you yeah and like you know oh my god what's gonna happen sneaking who's gonna go to sleep first sneaking out for a to get some snacks. Oh.
Yeah. Sleepovers.
Pretty good. Max and Hank did a sleepover at the Super Bowl a couple years ago.
That's true. Yeah.
We also did a non-sleepover. Oh.
So you regular day? No, but we spent, well, Hank's left. We spent a night together, but they didn't do much.
Oh, 24 hours. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. That was kind of sleepover vibes, though.
Yeah, that was great. We played video games.
Yeah. We tried to We tried to do a...
Hank was the worst puzzle doer I've ever seen in my life. That was sleepover, yeah.
Yeah, because you don't really sleep in sleepovers either. Yeah, right.
Okay, Hank. That was going to be my 1-1.
That's a good pick. I will go with not paying bills.
You miss not paying bills, yeah. Don't you? Yeah.
But you're not too old for that you could do that you do do that intentionally you don't pay your bills sometimes i do pay my bills but sometimes you don't no i mean that there was a there was a uh a grace period when i moved where some stuff was like not getting sent to my condo and and whatever but that's the only one though like guess... That was your first week when you moved in.
Half the lights in your apartment weren't on. You don't even think about it when you're a kid, though, but yeah.
Yeah, that'd be nice. Max.
The guy who clinched Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
Back to back. You don't even need to go.
Meatballs. Battling through a bad hangover.
Like drinking through a bad hangover. Yep.
Hank does that all the time. What? You don't do that? I'm saying like waking up.
You literally, the sleepover that we just talked about, you woke up and just fought through it. Went to theagles game well i started drinking that was that that wasn't by choice like waking up no battles by choice i'm thinking like when you're in college friday night you get abs yeah what you're trying to say is being able to drink with no hangovers yeah that would be the because you get old and then you're going through hangovers yeah that makes no sense get his ass hang that makes no sense battling through hangovers That's what you do.
That's be the... Because you get old and then you have hangovers.
Battling through hangovers. Yeah, that makes no sense.
Get his ass hang. That makes no sense.
Battling through hangovers. That's what you do.
That's what everyone knows. What do you mean that you didn't have a choice when you were at the Super Bowl? I mean, I had to go to the Super Bowl.
No, but like battling through with the next day, like partying through it. Okay, I guess like being hung...
Yeah. No, actually, I'll take you to say you had to drink to drink that day yeah that was the only way you're gonna make it yeah being hung yeah like i just used to like not get hang hangovers and that's basically what is the thing that you miss yeah not being hung over yeah like drinking without getting hung over right okay that's the answer okay well we're just giving him that? Throw a flag, Hank.
Throw a flag.
Your first answer was battling through hangovers.
And then we just gave him an infinitely better one.
I just didn't understand.
I mean.
Hank's right.
I mean, I'll just not take, like.
Battling through hangovers.
No pick.
Meatballs.
No.
Well, that's not happening.
Battling through hangovers. That was your pick.
All right, fine. Fine.
I don't care. I think that somewhat makes sense.
Hank is starting to see the punishments getting closer and closer. I mean, let's also say that I'm in first, and I also get the most shit for all of my picks and always have to get my picks changed.
Take a deep breath. What? I couldn't get Bullseye.
I mean, it... What pick got changed? You guys made me do Bullseye.
What pick got changed? No, not pick that got changed. Okay, so you said you all...
You're still mad about Fortnite season. No, there was another one recently.
No one's made you change a pick. No, there was...
Oh, dragons. People were pissed pissed That I didn't get dragons That's not a fucking animal
He got fucking Patrick Mahomes
That's literally an animal
And it was a terrible pick
I'm just saying
You're awfully upset
For a guy that's in first place
By a significant margin
Oh, yeah
You clinched Mount Rush
I also think that's a fine pick
People are gonna
Yeah, it is
Whatever
It's a good pick
Just think about what you're saying
Before you say it this time
Playing competitive sports
Okay
Okay, yeah
Yes What do we do on Thursdays? Just think about what you're saying before you say it this time. Playing competitive sports.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah.
Yes.
What do we do on Thursdays?
What?
That is not competitive.
If you can have a beer in your hand, that's not competitive sports.
What do we do on Friday at the office?
That's not. You guys are just.
This is just going to be the rest of Mount Rushmore. No, I think you're factually incorrect.
I'm asking several questions right now that you can have a beer Olympics. Was that not a sport? No, that is not a sport.
I'm talking about high school sports, college sports. One of my picks was I'm sad that I'm too old for Little League.
But that's not what you said. Okay.
You guys are trying to tell me how to do my Mount Rushmore and I'm the fucking best at this. You are.
So what is the... Playing competitive sports.
So are you going to keep playing on your softball team? You guys are... That is not competitive.
Wow. The pugs.
That hurts. Memes? You're a part of that team? I'm going to...
You guys are just going to make me quit Mount Rushmore. I compete.
That'd be a real shame. I show up to compete.
If you didn't get to win. It'd be real shame.
I like what you guys are doing here because I'm dominating this game way too much that you're just trying to muddy the water. It'd be real shame if you quit Mount Rushmore season and then your points stayed at the exact same total for the rest of Mount Rushmore.
Whoever was going to be in first at this... Impossible, you idiot.
What was the word you were about to say? You fucking idiot, but I was just like... Whoever was in first at this juncture of Mount Rushmore season was going to get this type of heat.
It just happens it's you. Alright, no.
Fuck you guys. I think the lights might be too bright for Max.
Yeah. He clenched.
Yeah. You guys are just upset.
You guys are upset. You're like the Yankees.
Yeah. Okay.
A lot of choices here. Yeah.
Let's go climbing random trees. I had climbing trees on my list too.
Yeah. When you were kid you just climb whatever tree you could see you know you see it with some branches low and you're gonna i can get up there now yep you'd probably get the police called yep that's a good one that's a good one um playing with nerf guns i wish i wasn't too old for that yeah playing with nerf guns as a kid was the best and now when you do do it, it's just like, who cares? And they've gotten so much better over the years, too.
So much better. You have automatic weapons.
You've got laser sights on them. It's incredible.
But playing with Nerf guns was so much fun as a kid. What's that look for, Hank? Nothing.
No, no, there's a look. Stop gaslighting everyone.
No, I have nothing to say for the rest of this Mount Rushmore. What? So you have no more picks? I will take my picks, and I will have no comment on anyone.
Only the facts. Come back.
Nope. No comment.
Maybe like Barstool, when we did the Nerf, we did a Nerf video. We did? Five years ago.
We did do that Nerf video. We did it in the New York office.
Was I part of it? You were a captain? Yeah, that was fun.
I wish we could do that all the time, but we don't.
That was also three years ago.
I didn't bring it up.
I was just curious if Max was going to bring it up.
I think the name of this is things that you wish you weren't too old for.
That was in the past, right?
Yeah, that was.
Three years ago.
Max, come back to us from Outrushmore.
I'm done critiquing your picks.
Yeah.
No, I'm ready. All right.
So do you think that was a good pick? Sure. Okay.
Okay. So I'm up.
I just imagine waking up as a member of the Pugs on Black Monday and finding out you're not playing competitive sports. Yeah, well, I mean, if Hugh was managing the team, they're not competitive.
It's true. That's true.
You're a leader of that team. Talk.
He hasn't been there in length. No.
Yeah. Neither have you.
I'm talking about me. This is awesome.
You went to that game and didn't play because your bicep hurt. Is true? Yeah, I was worried about golf Now actually your pick got stronger Because a guy who doesn't play Because he's worried about golf That's not competitive Okay, PFT It was the playoffs I would have played Hank competes in multiple competitive golf tournaments a year That he cares about Alright, uh all right so i have two yep okay so my first one i'm gonna go trampolines trampolines rock dude have you guys been on a trampoline recently no okay i was on a trampoline two weeks ago with my kids i was doing popcorn with them where i was jumping and they were just popping everywhere maybe eight minutes completely gassed like sweat had to get off the trampoline that shit just kills you yeah i was watching it at the olympics too and every time the guy would jump up in the air i'd be like that guy's gonna die yeah they're so high up but trampolines were so fun there's trampolines in the olympics yeah there's trampolining yeah what yeah they? Yeah.
They go like 50 feet in the air. It's crazy.
Damn. Yeah.
That's nuts. They should do trampoline in the Olympics, but it should be like a battle, like two people at the same time trying to bounce each other.
And maybe with a hoop and a ball? And then you can tackle the guy in midair. Yeah.
I like that. But yeah, trampolines were so fun.
You'd always go over to your friend's house that had a trampoline,
and his parents obviously just kind of didn't care,
and they were okay with everyone getting hurt.
And then you'd just go on it for like,
all you'd want to do is be like, let's go to the trampoline.
And they'd be like, I'm sick of the trampoline.
I broke my arm there two months ago.
Now I want to do the fucking trampoline.
They're awesome, but you can't do it as an adult.
My next one, I'm going to go Power Wheels.
Power Wheels was so fun.
Because you couldn't drive yet,
Thank you. they're awesome but you can't do it as an adult uh my next one i'm gonna go power wheels power wheels are so fun because you couldn't drive yet but goddamn if you weren't behind the wheel of what felt like a car at the time yep power wheels were the absolute best agreed um okay i gotta pick any smart comments about that max lock back in oh yeah pretty good lock back in you know what the power wheels are power wheels are.
I think that's like a 1980s. You know what power wheels are? No.
Power wheels? Everyone knows power wheels. Pow, pow, power wheels.
No, I don't know that. There's one in the office for my kids.
Oh. It's a mini car.
Those things? It's a mini car. No, that's something different, but I have a mini truck that my kids come on Saturdays and just whip around in them.
They're awesome. I don't know.
I never had one as a kid. He was driving until he was like 14.
That's hilarious. Hank's so funny.
That was a good one, Hank. That was a good one.
Oh, okay. Yeah, they're just mini cars and mini trucks.
But you can just drive real cars. Well, not when you're a little...
Yeah, true! Oh, shit. Now that you're old.
Yeah, but like... This draft is the things that you wish you weren't too old for.
Right. But he's saying you could drive a real car, which is...
I could also probably still drive a Power Wheels. Yeah.
That would be... We've got to try...
Hank's right. We've got to test that out now.
When you're right're right you're right hank's right that's why i'm a really good driver because i was i was training up there all until i got my license it's been almost a year since you last wrapped your car around a pole in the parking well the pole that hank clearly intentionally mislabeled um all right uh easy one for me building forts i just love building forts now i'm in the fort building game on the other side where i build the force but i don't get to go in the forts but building forts just being inside of a fort you build a good fort and start of the day it's like i got this fort for the rest of the day pillow forts pillow forts stick forks down by the creek yep i mean the best building a fort and just being like this is my spot i got it um okay i think it's been a lot of kids stuff uh but i'll go a little bit older i'll just go with college parties yeah college that's a good one college parties were the best and it does i think the last college party i was at was with you hank and it was like 10 years ago and it was very uncomfortable for us yeah i had a stretch i mean like we did the dixie tour and i was 22 that didn't feel weird and you were fine there was a couple years after that like i think i was 24 and i was like this is we were at ohio state i was like 21 yeah playing beer pong or flip cup and i was probably 29 and i was like i have get out of here. This is not good.
I need to get out of here. Yeah, college parties from 18 to – I mean, even give yourself 22.
Yeah. Can't beat it.
Yeah. You know, like the Beer Olympics this year, they were basically the same thing as a college party.
That's every single Saturday in college. Yeah, like caring very deeply about a game of beer pong.
I miss getting into fights in beer pong games.
That was fun.
That's a good pick.
Max?
I don't know where this is going to go.
This is also something that I didn't really get to do at my own school,
but I did it at other schools,
and that's watching games at a student section.
Ooh.
Okay. I know that you guys did that recently.
Yeah, you can still do that. But- You got to get over the uncomfortableness.
Yeah, that's what this whole- I mean, technically, you can do anything that we're doing today, but it's uncomfortable. No, it's a good pick.
Yeah. Yeah.
I have a pick coming up that you cannot do, but okay. Okay, that's interesting.
Okay. Yeah.
I have one that I really want to do But I think that you're gonna You're gonna give me shit for it No, go for it You're in the lead You're never gonna blow this lead We won't give you shit I won't give you shit I don't know Say it, Max As long as you're too old to do it I am too old to do it Okay Fuck it I was This is another thing That I was That I was never able to do And I was just In France Studying abroad I'm too old to study abroad I could never do it It's the coolest thing ever Yeah That is I wish I did The whole time i was over there i was like i cannot believe that kids did this for a full semester and like fake went to school and then just went all through europe what hank's insane but you'd have you have to go to college and study abroad hank goes to college for one semester and studies abroad i thought you guys were gonna give me shit for that i don't know why. That's a good pick.
That's a good pick. Study abroad literally translates to look at that chick.
Yeah. Oh, okay.
There you go, Matt. That took me a while, but yeah.
There you go. I will stay on brand considering, you know, you take a day off and it's like you killed someone, but just having the whole summer off.
Yeah better no you're doing that this year last day of school no i i'm i'm here i took less than a week off i was here on thursday here on friday playing on saturday uh but yeah last day of school before you were like i don't know what 13 14 maybe you started to have and do like some type of job in the summer but like when you're you know elementary and and i guess i guess just elementary school kid the last day of school was like i'm just gonna play wiffle ball and baseball for the next two months yeah and go to the pool winter college break too was great yeah i feel like it was like a month yeah it was like a month I did it for once and then my friends and then
you went
you went I feel like it was like a month. Yeah.
It was like a month. Well.
I did it for once.
And then my friends.
And then.
You went to school for one semester, right?
No.
Two.
Oh, two.
All right.
Oh, I finished out strong.
But then when I was working. It'd be funny if Hank was still technically on his winter college break.
No, I think if you did both of my semesters, though, I have like one semester's worth of credits. But it sounds strong.
Yeah. But when I was working at a, at a young age in the, in the workforce and my friends would be home and they would just have, they'd be like off fucking off for like a month straight.
I'd just be at work being like, how, like, when school yeah how are you still doing this it's wednesday yeah that was the best all right uh oh i gotta i got two that i wanna should i do one or two max you pick i want the one that you said that you definitely can't do having a wet dream a hand job from god i wish i i those rocked it was basically virtual reality and it was awesome but you can't do it anymore i haven't had a wet dream since i was 12 years old 13 years old i've had one no i haven't oh couldn't you couldn't you could do it i don't know wasn. Even just don't jerk off.
I guess Robbie Fox was also very young when that. He was like 19.
Okay, okay. I mean, it was just a bet.
You went to sleep and you fucked a hot chick. Yeah, I mean, the cleanup was a little weird, but who cares? I think if you didn't come for like two weeks or a month or something, maybe it would just happen.
I don't know. That'd be very funny.
I don't think so. Explain to your significant other like, no, we can't do it.
I'm trying to get myself a wet dream. I'm trying to get a wet dream.
Just bear with me for the next couple weeks. I also like, it was only like a little stretch for me and it rocked for that little stretch.
I had one, exactly one wet dream my entire life. Really? And it was incredible.
Yeah. And then I'm like, maybe I'll have another one.
But then I then i psyched myself out now every time i'm dreaming i'm thinking about about to have sex with a hot chick i'm like wait you idiot this is a dream that hot chick will never have sex with you yeah then i wake up and then i try to go back to sleep to get back into the dream where i like think about that dream put myself back and then it's fucked up it would rock to be able to have a wet dream yeah it would rock to be able to like know too just being like i'm gonna put on maybe put on a condom before i go to bed don't clean up but yeah that's i'm we're too old for that huey you got you ever had a wet dream uh no no i don't remember a single one okay so you might have had one there's possibility. Okay.
All right. PFT, your last pick.
Do you think it's a dream where you're swimming? Yeah. I won't drown probably.
I was being in those dreams. A bunch of mine got picked in this last round.
So this is going to be tough for me. I miss the possibility of being taller.
Like I'm not done growing. That's a good one.
That's a good one. For you especially.
Yeah. Thank you.
Uh, when I was, until I was like 19 or 20, I was like, maybe, maybe I'm not done yet. Cause I stopped growing when I was in like ninth grade.
I was like, maybe next year's the growth spurt. I started eating a lot of food, just got fat for a little bit because I was trying to convince myself that it was a growth spurt, that I'm hungry all the time.
No, you're just getting fat. Yeah.
But that was, yeah, I wish I could still have that feeling where it's like maybe this isn't it for me. Yeah.
I'm tall PFT or taller than you. Oh, you're not tall.
You're not tall. Six feet.
I was this height in seventh grade. Oof.
And my dad is like 6'2", my uncle's like 6'4", my brother's 6'3", and they told me that I was going to be the tallest person in my family. Oh no.
Never grew again. That's brutal.
The fat guy equivalent to that is like outgrowing your baby fat. Yeah.
When you're a fat child, it's like, it's okay, it's just baby fat. Yeah, I won't have tits yeah yeah yeah or like you get to that and then you do outgrow it and then it all comes back yeah an older relative is like look this is what i looked like in in like middle school yeah and now i'm skinny and you're like oh that's gonna be me then you think genetics is gonna do all of it now you have to rely on ozempic yeah or like we're doing we're working out yeah we're working out me and big cat are getting in the best shape of our lives yeah diet started today yep what are we having for dinner pizza small amount of pizza uh the one who said we should get we should add some salad yeah all right um what got left off the one i was thinking that i i would have picked but i feel like maybe a little too much pushback uh Pissing outdoors without it being a crime.
No, golf course. Yeah, true.
You can pee anywhere on a golf course. But it was awesome when you were a kid and you're just like, I pee anywhere.
No one's going to say shit. In college, we had two bathrooms that were right next to the outside, and we would just go outside, and we were like, I'm using the urinal.
Yeah, but even that would be a crime if someone saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like being at like when i take my son to like t-ball and he's like i gotta pee i'm like all right there's a tree right there no one's gonna say shit if i peed behind that tree big problem big problem i had i had getting hyped for christmas morning i had that too yeah i thought about that one just gravity bongs the excitement no we're gonna we're bringing those back yeah we are bringing those back but the excitement of the magic of christmas yeah and also your birthday too yeah birthdays birthday was like that was a big deal and now it's just like fuck i'm getting older like right what 18 is probably the last no 21 is the last birthday that you're excited for uh 25 you can you can rent a car 21 21 i think it's it you can rent a beach house. Yeah.
But dude, remember waking up being like, I'm 10 today? That fucking rock. Double hand.
Cupcakes. Yeah.
School. Yeah, your birthday party.
Pizza. Velcro sneakers.
If you're an adult man wearing Velcro sneakers, people are like, something's wrong. And they are so much easier than tying your shoes.
Yep. I wish I wasn't for those i had uh but then you actually get you it does come around when you're like 90 yeah when you when you get way old you can do it diapers and velcro yeah they make a comeback i had uh quitting a job that you don't care about that that is one of the best feelings in the world that's good when you have a job in like your early 20s and you just hate it.
Yep. And walking away from that job, it is better than drugs.
I walked out on a job on a lunch break. That's awesome.
Yeah, it was the worst job. It was the one I had where I called people asking them for money for Wisconsin alum.
So I'd call them during dinner. I quit a dishwashing job to go to a free Mac Miller concert concert hell yes um i had this one i would have gotten some pushback because i'm currently doing a little of this but i do wish i could just play video games all day yeah i had that like there was nothing better than getting a new video game being like there's my next 12 hours yeah i'm just gonna beat this video game that was the best having imaginary friends imaginary friends.
Oh, yeah. Slash, like, world building with, like, your toys.
No, just more the- Wish that you could have that, though. No, imagination, I think.
It's not imaginary friends. Imagination.
You lose your imagination. That sucks.
Yeah, like, you have, like, stuffed animals, and, like, you have a whole world in your brain. What was your world? Depended.
Depended on the day. What were your stuffed animals i had a chip beanie baby
that was my that was my ride or die and then it was just a random collection of other uh stuffed animals that my dog used as like yeah toys you had two yeah you had your dog's toys i had i had i had yeah i had my ace like he'd be in the bed with me and then everything else was just kind of like whatever was in the house. The one having energy.
Yeah. That's working out, though.
Yeah, but I'm talking about kid energy. I'm pretty sure my kids are solar-powered because they'll just be in the sun all day, and they just won't be tired.
It's like, how did this happen? Yeah, you're super excited to wake up. Right.
And you're super upset to go to sleep. Right.
Because when you go to sleep, you might miss out on fun stuff. It's over, yeah.
Sleeping in was one I had as well. Like, I just, I'm too old to sleep in.
It would be awesome to sleep in until, like, 11. Yeah.
I mean, I sleep in sometimes as well. I'm so jealous of that.
Are there Saturdays? But are there Saturdays when you'll sleep until,'ll sleep till like 11 oh yeah you motherfucker i would i would i would for the other day i would
i would or is crazy i'd kill a man to be able to do that you almost slept through the sun
i was in bed pretty much until the sun god damn it see that's i mean down you
a young man would have been a battle through that that was also awesome i had i had happy meals
happy meals the joy of the happy meal and the tiny little shitty toy um what about like school
I'll take a sober, fun party. Clean, old The holiday themed stuff Yeah Dress up parties For the holidays Yeah That's a good one Swinging on swing sets Swinging on swing sets Awesome You get the cops called on you Yeah Yeah Especially if you're You're walking No I'm saying You're with your kids Going to a park And you see a normal adult Yeah By himself swinging You're like What the fuck's going on Yeah for his own good I would call the cops on him probably You can still swim in a pool But being a kid Swimming in a pool Like there was nothing better I would never leave And just being in a pool all day Like going underwater You guys gone underwater recently It's not as fun I did like it's just like your ears pop like i remember i was used to just fucking go underwater all day
i did yeah it was it was awesome i was at the pool and my buddy was at the pool and he's got
like a six-year-old son and so he was like let's see how deep we can go and touch the bottom yeah
and so i was in the deep end and you just like push yourself down touch the bottom it's exhilarating
but then you don't you do it once and you're like all right i did it like being a kid you do it
Thank you. bottom yeah and so i was in the deep end and you just like push yourself down touch the bottom it's exhilarating but then you don't you do it once and you're like all right i did it like being a kid you do it for hours yeah the kid stayed there and he kept doing it just pool games in general pool games in general i did uh i had being able to go out with a 20 bill oh that's good i i wanted to do that that was another one i was thinking then you're gonna be but then the alternative is Okay well now you have more money So you don't need to do that Yeah But like when you're in college And like literally all you need Is a $20 bill And can like have the best night ever It's I can't even fathom that PFT and I have Going out without smartphones Yeah it was excellent That was so awesome It was good Going out with a flip phone just being like no one was on their phone i never i didn't i didn't have a smartphone until six months into working at barstool really you had a flip phone retext were you doing like t9 i had an nv1 it was like the it was a it was a flip open keyboard and then i had an ipod touch i didn't a smartphone until I was like 24.
Is it Blackberry? Yeah. All right, anything else? Anything else we missed? Being a kid rocked.
Yeah. Really was the best.
Coloring? I was bad at coloring. Being able to be completely oblivious to all politics.
Yeah. I try really hard to be oblivious, but it seeps in but when you're a kid who the fuck cares they're not having a frontal lobe yeah yeah well you're getting there yeah there are a couple things i thought of that were close to both of yours one of them laser tag the laser tag's a good one i have a take i think laser tag's most overrated thing don't think you went to the right laser tag.
They're all bad. No, no.
Not Ultra Zone. Every time I play laser tag, I wish I was playing paintball.
But paintball, you have to wear... I don't want to get...
It's the fun of paintball without getting hurt. And laser tag, it's dark.
You got black lights. You're sneaking through mazes and shit.
Paintball was fun last year. Paintball was a lot of fun And then also go-karts.
Oh, go-karts, yeah. Go-karts, but I thought it was close to.
And they also do have adult go-karts. We did it.
Yeah. We did it in Nashville a few years ago.
And for an ad, too. Yeah.
It was fun. But that's different.
No, I know. If it's for an ad, it's different.
I used to, oh, man, I used to just want to stop at every go-kart place. My dad would just not let just not let me i was just like fuck i feel like roller coasters are kind of like like you can't just go to an amusing park and just like i guess you can yeah having the thrill of being on a golf cart too like when you just like going on a golf cart when you're a kid was awesome uh water parks yeah water parks although water parks still fun they're still fun not the same Not the same.
Batting cages, still fun, not the same. Yeah.
Yeah. Batting cages.
No.
Batting cages still fun not the same yeah yeah batting cages um all right good show boys uh we have the random number generator because we forgot to do the lottery balls so do you want to win this yeah of course okay uh numbers i don't want this 20 56 i'll go 20 uh i'll go 11. I also't want this.
20. I'll go 56.
I'll go 20. I'll go 11.
Okay. I still have to wait.
I'll go 8. Huey? 42.
42 for Huey. Jonah? 47.
47. 3 for memes.
Shane? 21. 21.
All right. Shane, you watching? 11.
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it says 11.
yeah max gets 11. hey congrats max congrats max that's awesome huge yeah max max finally got it you're looking at it does it not say 11.
wait you actually get 11. yeah i mean it's the it's no it doesn't count as the lottery ball Good job, Max.
Yeah, you've gotten the creative number generator. That's so sick.
100%. It was actually 11, Shane? Good job, dude.
Was there a camera on it? Good job. My eyes, but...
Yeah. Good job, Max.
Max, that's so sick, dude. Show the fucking thing.
That's so sick, Max. That's so sick, dude.
I still think you're fucking with me. I mean, well, because it's like the lamest thing to win is this.
I mean, I don't care. You can't ask the question anymore.
No, I can. Have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine? I got the number.
Have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine? I got the number. Answer the question.
Have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine? I got the number. No, you've never gotten the lottery ball machine.
All right, fine. It's better.
I'm taking. This is a win.
No, it's not. The best part is there's always going to be like a shred of doubt in Max's mind that it was actually true.
It wasn't 11. It's okay.
It was not 11. How did you do that? I just kept on hitting it until it became 11.
Yeah.
I got my guy back here.
Wait, was it 11?
Yeah, it was 11.
It was 11, Shane?
Look, 11.
I know that, but...
Yeah.
11.
Easy.
That is the number 11.
Ask our econ guy. Get this.
So it's firmly in there. 11.
Easy. That was easy.
That is the number 11. Ask our econ guy.
Get this.
So it's firmly in there.
11.
Bang.
Way to go, Max.
I'm happy.
That's a win.
I can tell how happy you are.
Yeah, that's a win.
All right.
See everyone on Wednesday.
Love you guys.
I'm talking away. I don't know what I have to say.
Love you guys. Bye.
Thank you. I need you all to get I need you all to get I need less to say I want to hear I need some less weight So I learn if my life is okay Say after me They so better to be safe and sorry Say after me They so better to be safe and sorry Things that you say Can't be a little eyeball Just to play my boundaries away you Thank you.
Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.