Matt Damon And Casey Affleck, Mt Rushmore Of Dumb Things We Used To Think + Football Is Back

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It is awesome and great interview talking to both those guys. We also do, I would say, my favorite Mount Rushmore that we've done all season.
It is the Mount Rushmore of Dumb Things You Used to Think. So we have some really dumb things we used to think, and it was very open-ended and very fun.
We're going to talk a little football being back, Olympics, and, of course we got Fire Fest of the Week. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKey.
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The crown is yours. Today is Friday, August 2nd, and football is all the way back.
PFT, Hall of Fame game. We're back, baby.
It's so great. It's so great to see football on TV so great to see the score bug so great to hear the music so great to bet the over which i'm probably going to lose but i'm going to take it anyways because it's unpatriotic to take the under on the hall of fame game i'm excited i'm super excited we made it guys yeah it's the the minute the calendar turns to august it's just like okay this is this is now a football month.
We are now in football months. Like, we've made it.
I don't want to wish away the summer, but the summer, bye-bye. Hank, back to work.
It's football season. The game is about to kick off.
So I will – oh, there's a face. So I will wait.
We've got a couple more weeks. We don't have a couple more weeks.
We grit week we have grit week and then football uh pft i will let you know the moment that i think the bears are all the way back so uh while we're while we're recording i know that they're back in fact i'm surprised that we haven't talked about this yet but they're back because they have an athlete at the olympics true they do watching simone biles yeah i don't see any packers players in attendance watching simone byles no jonathan owens just hanging out watching watching simone byles uh yeah for life you're right oh kyle boone's actually wearing a full jersey i like that just seeing that but yeah tyson bagen's gonna play hall like 18 well he had to do 18 it's keenan allen what are you gonna wait but that wasn't it's kyle that wasn't his number in college right no that was not his number because keenan allen uh he's he did the right thing there was a report today that uh kill Williams told people to clean up his lockers and a money tumor who cares was like that's that's not his job uh I thought it was being a leader this is we're already we're already in tear down the kill Williams territory that's fine I's fine i'm gonna enjoy the hall of fame game i'm gonna enjoy tyson bajin uh there's some you know all time bears going into the hall of fame this weekend it's gonna be great so it's it's it's the hall of fame game means absolutely nothing they've completely bastardized it where you don't even get the first stringers playing for a second but i'm not gonna let anyone yuck my yum today the hall of fame game it is technically football that should be the slogan of it and we've made it listen we we did a great job pretending to get excited about the olympics this summer we got into the copa euros which was uh an incredible just waste of time for us to fast forward through the months of june and july but the whole reason that those sports exist is so that we can get back to the hall of fame game and we're there now. I'm so thankful.
I'm curious to see. I'm not in front of a TV right now.
I'm in Columbus, Ohio. Shout out Scully's Music Diner.
Pup Punk's playing tonight, Friday. Should be a great time.
But I don't have a TV in front of me. Are any of the players choosing to wear the Guardian caps, the giant things on their helmet that Roger Good gadel said we don't know yet we don't know yet because they're about to take the field but yeah they're allowed to wear the guardian cap during the regular season too i i likened it to uh john oleroot it's going to be a john oleroot situation where he wore the batting uh helmet playing first base uh looks like right now i i feel like no one's going to wear the guardian cap right that's just's just not going to happen.
I don't think so. I think Roger Goodell was like, tell you what, in the effort of player safety, I will allow you to wear a giant helmet that makes you look like a clown.
Yeah. And no one's going to do it.
And then Roger Goodell could be like, oh, I gave them the option of wearing the big red clown nose on their face, but they chose not to do it. I guess they don't care about player safety.
Let's do 19 games. Yeah.
The only time I could see someone wearing a guardian cap is like getting concussed in the game, somehow passing the test and the doctors being like, you know what? Just put this thing on. You'll be fine.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Did you know that Hank? Guardian cap? They can wear it.
They can wear it now. All right.
Other NFL news before we talk about the Olympics. We did a bad job on Monday.
We had the takeies on Wednesday. Incredible takeies.
Shout out to all the winners. It was a lot of fun to tape, to do a little year in review.
We forgot to mention that Jordan Love got paid, and he made a lot of money, and Tua got paid. He made a lot of money, and now it feels like we're good with quarterbacks for a little bit.
that whole class they got paid that's that's the class you want to be in if you're a quarterback in the nfl uh next up is the brock purdy discourse and we're still on dac we're still on dac watch so we don't know what's going to happen with that but yeah two got paid mcdaniel's is uh he apparently went to bat for him um saying hey we need to pay our quarterback great job mike mcdaniel and uh yeah i don't it's very weird i know that you have to pay jordan love but he's got like eight games under his belt that he played well in and now he's one of the highest paid players in the league so i guess we'll see how it shakes out no it was a look for you he deserves every dollar that he got uh some may say you know paying a 32 year old that much money uh who's only played eight games kind of crazy but i'm not gonna judge i they got their guy uh and he's got at least four or five more years left before he's in his late 30s what were you just talking about hank what were you just mr mcmichael looks like a vibe yeah mr mcmichael so yeah steve mcmichael obviously he's got als uh so he's not there in person, but he's in the Hall of Fame, deserves it. Mongo.
But, yeah, they're bringing out the Hall of Famers right now, PFT. So that's what we're watching on our TV.
Patrick Willis is getting introduced. Everyone's clapping it up.
Caleb Williams is in practice. He was in a jersey and pads for practice reps, I believe, because now he's in a T-shirt.
Kind of like that. Okay.
Mr. McMichael, she's got the orange dress on.
She looks good. In Hall of Fame news, I'm a little bit upset at the Hall of Fame and their sculptor, the guy that does the bust, because they didn't make Peyton Manning's forehead nearly big enough.
Yeah. I feel like Peyton told them, hey, lower the hairline a little bit.
Take it easy on my forehead. It's not realistic.
So I've got a little bit of a problem with that. Yes, I'd agree.
All right. Only other football news is we're starting with injuries, which suck.
Training camp injuries have started to happen. Justin Herbert is out until at least week one.
and deandre hopkins is out for four to six weeks so i fucking hate sharing training camp injuries they make me so mad there's nothing worse than getting that shefter alert when you're sitting uh minding your own business in the middle of august and you're like god damn it we didn't even get to the season and and deontay foreman got airlifted on a helicopter to Roanoke for a head injury,

but I think he's okay.

That happened during kickoff drills.

They were doing a kickoff drill at practice,

and I guess he took a shot to the head.

But I want to know if you gave Jim Harbaugh truth serum,

what he thinks about his quarterback being out for weeks with a foot injury.

That's a good question.

I feel like Jim Harbaugh's – well, well no he's a football guy through and through I would say maybe the good news is that you'll see less highlights of Quentin Johnson dropping balls because that was all of Twitter for an entire day yeah he'll be okay Justin Harbaugh will be fine they're rebuilding something in I was about to say San Diego, L.A. Jim Harbaugh, he's going to win.
That's all he does. He wins everywhere he goes.
He's going to figure out a way to win, but I can imagine him seeing his quarterback with a foot injury and being like, your foot's a long way from your heart, son. Just cut it off.
He'd probably have him do the J.J. McCarthy stuff.
Just like take your shoes off and ground yourself every morning. It sounds like you're depressed.
Yeah, yeah. All right, so other things.
Olympics. We have the Olympics going on.
Team USA, Steve Curran in all-time whoops, I feel bad, and Jason Tatum's probably going to quit the team. Started Jason Tatum against South Sudan.
Huge game for Jason. Yeah, do you think that was an overcompensation a little bit, Hank? No, it's probably just the matchups.
Oh, the matchups. Yeah.
Yeah, the matchups. We also had Steve Kerr.
Shout out Steve Kerr because I'm now convinced he's just doing it for us. Jason Tatum played zero minutes in the first game.
Joel Embiid played zero minutes in the second game. Thank you, Steve Kerr.
You're just giving us stuff to talk about in the middle of august uh we do have max who the reports were that he got arrested in paris he did not get arrested in paris yeah there was a there was a photoshop going around that he got arrested for eating too many crepes crepes uh just detained yeah he was detained for eating too many crepes they said they never seen a man of wrath yeah they've never seen a man eat so many crepes so they had to lock them up did not get arrested but he did give us a video he's he will be back with us in flesh for the start of grit week which starts on sunday uh oh joe big big big head picture i'm gonna get it right now hold on well the first big head joe buck picture of the season i have not seen this video from max yet but I'm interested to see what he says because Hank's spin zone and Max's spin zone for the first game were entirely different on what they have to be right now. You guys just flip-flopped places.
So, Hank, you were saying that at least Jason Tatum got minutes, whereas loser and bead couldn't even get in at all. And then Max said, yeah, well, I'd rather he be rested than get in and look bad.

So how are you guys going to flip-flop your excuses?

Let's see what Max has to say.

Okay, yeah, let's see what Max has to say.

All right, let's talk Team USA.

Let's talk Joel Embiid.

I'm sure all the people that are listening to this right now have just heard Big Cat and PFT and Hank just spew a bunch of bullshit, a bunch of propaganda, anti-Joel Embiid propaganda that wants the listener to think that Joel Embiid didn't play today or yesterday or whatever day this would be because he's not a good player. That's not the case.
It's Team USA. They got the best players in the world.
They have the ability to give guys rest as far as matchups go. South Sudan, not the best matchup for Joel Embiid.
They're a small team. They like to go run and gun.
Joel Embiid is a bigger player. He's not as fast as some of the other guys.
So they're giving him an off day. He's going to be in the starting lineup against Puerto Rico.
He's still the top three player on this team. Steve Curry has said that himself.
Sometimes there's matchup things. And guys who don't know ball are going to try and criticize Joel Embiid for being a different matchup for this South Sudan team.
But that's all part of the game plan. Some people don't know game plan.
And I know that the hosts of this show are going to be slandering a man for no reason just because they don't know ball sometimes about game plan he's going to drop 30 against puerto rico oh memes so so back us up memes we we've for the last two episodes we've had max send you videos without us seeing it so we would see it for the first time at the same time as awls is that a fact that's a fact okay so me thinks the lady doth protest too much because max just went in an entire rant about us slandering joel beat and we didn't say one bad thing nope we didn't even address we basically just said oh yeah he didn't play any minutes and then he just went into this whole thing about they are gonna say he's a bad player and that he's slow and he's fat and it's a it's all match didn't say anything, PFT. I didn't even think about Joel Embiid being fat, but Max makes a pretty good point that we should probably talk about that.
Out of shape. I actually agree with him for once.
The matchup thing is a valid point. My only takeaway from that was just Joel Embiid is slow.
Yeah. Joel Embiid is slow and speed is actually important when you're playing sports.
Yeah. And listen, South Sudan players are faster than NBA players.

Yes.

Was the takeaway there.

I think Steve Kerch is being a good coach.

He knows that Joel Embiid can't match up against South Sudan well.

Yeah.

So they're a dynamic group of playmakers over there.

So, you know, maybe we'll get them back in against Puerto Rico.

I don't know how those matchups look, though.

Yeah.

We'll have to dive into the matchups. Hopefully they have a big fat guy that Joel Embiid can play against.
I'm going to wait for A.I. Al Michaels to tell me what to think.
I've been watching his recaps in the morning. It is very creepy.
It's so weird. It's so weird.
We also had our gymnastics team dominated. Again, Simone Biles is the GO goat.
She's incredible. I think KD even said that she thinks he thinks that Simone Biles could take an alley-oop like she could dunk on a 10-foot rim.
But yeah, we just dominate that. And I think we're back in a good spot in the medal count.
Yeah, we're good. We're dominating the silvers.
We are the absolute kings of silver right now yeah so i don't know if we're dominating the golds but uh yeah the gymnastics team awesome the men's gymnastics they got a bronze and they were really happy about that so i'm happy for the guy that looks like robbie fox yeah good for him got engaged and won a bronze um yeah no the china still is leading us in gold um we gotta we gotta get that also we haven't gotten to the track and field yet I feel like every day I wake up China is dominating like air pistols and what else have they been dominating I don't even know I think it's disgusting that the United States can't win at shooting that's our sport it should be something we excel at did you also see first new kickoff going right now PFT. It's our sport.
It should be something we excel at. Did you also see...
Whoa, first new kickoff. First new kickoff going right now, PFT.
It's crazy. What have they done to our game? Sam Schwartstein has ruined football for all of us.
I actually think this will be a good rule. Once we get used to it, there's probably going to be more kickoffs returned, and it's going to be more exciting.
So I'm excited for it. Yeah.
When the XFLfl did it they used to have the flags that the refs would raise right and i don't like introducing like a new prop for the refs to be using but they got rid of those so i think the kickoff is going to be good just so that we can watch dumb coaches screwed up and the bears just covered the kickoff perfectly so 1-0 on kickoffs for the bears we looked awesome got them down at 26, which I think if you kick it out of the landing zone, where does it go? It goes somewhere. 35? We should probably brush up on these.
I think it's the 30? Yeah. I think it's the 30.
I think they changed it to 30. But, yeah, when we do our whose team is this guy on now update, we should also do a rules update.
Let's just remind everyone it's still preseason for us so i use the

preseason to get myself warmed up for the season i'm not gonna i'm not gonna let myself uh be belittled by any new rules or any new people i'm the preseason is is there for a reason we all need our reps we're getting some right now feels good um all right it's great so the only uh so katie Ledecky won a bunch.

Our gymnastics team won everything.

And then did you guys see

the craziest? I think it was the ping pong final. It was older brother versus younger brother, which was nuts.
That's wild. Yeah.
How? What do you mean? They were in the same country. There's multiple participants.
All right, I got to fact check this talk talk amongst yourself while i fact check this so you're saying that there's a bracket basically and you get multiple entries olympics or is this like uh yes what was the 30 for 30 okay two basketball players this is the two escobars no no no uh eastern european European. Alexis and Felix LeBron, France's Olympic brothers.
So they played. It might not have been for the gold medal match, but they played, and I saw the younger brother lost.
Brutal. He was crying as the older brother was celebrating.
That's one where you got to root for the younger brother, right? It's like the Harbaugh Super Bowl. Yeah.
The older brother stood up on the table and, like, cheered and was going nuts, for the younger brother right because it's like the heart the harbaugh super bowl yeah the older brother stood up on the table and like cheered and was going nuts and uh the younger brother was just crying into his shirt but i thought that was pretty cool the brothers were playing like if they should have played in their mom's basement that's the only that was my only critique if if the younger brother wins then that is that's devastating for the older brother at least this way it's the older brother keeps up because i'm i'm sure that when they were kids the older brother would win every single time they played right although is ping pong one of those sports that like age matters probably not right i don't think so yeah yeah oh there's a lot of running table tennis that's what we got to call it table tennis i. I'm not calling it table tennis.
Okay.

Any other Olympic story?

Scotty Scheffler had a weird quote where he's just like,

no one's going to remember us anyway when they were asking about his Olympic legacy.

He just said that.

He said, no one's going to remember us anyway.

It's kind of true when it comes to golf in the Olympics. Yeah.

Yeah.

Name one golf Olympic moment ever. Xanderander wearing white sneakers there's a moment yeah electric who could forget yeah um do we want to talk about uh boxers and what gender they were assigned at birth i don't really care uh two but we can if you want to i just want to make you uncomfortable this is why this is why you want to talk about it go on no i just knew that i just knew that you didn't uh i well do you why the original do you you should why the original i'm trying to the original i got takes i'm trying this is one of those i feel like i shouldn't say them publicly because i don't know enough anything yeah no i'm just saying this is why the original olympics had them everyone competing completely nude back in ancient greece that's that's when sports were sports but what's your take uh my take is that i don't know shit about what's going on right now so i'm just gonna sit back and not pretend to care about women's boxing at the olympics yeah i agree i don't i i asked for someone to explain to me like a five-year-old and i had like 400 replies in the first two minutes and every single reply was different facts i was like well this isn't gonna work i'm out i'm out on this for my discourse for my limited reading it comes down to a big beef between the ioc and then the ibf which is a boxing governing body that has actual beef with the people on the ioc it's like a personal dispute as to who ruled her to be having like too many, either it was chromosomes or testosterone to compete.
That was the IBF that said that, but they won't say what the test was. Now the IOC says they're full of shit.
It's just where we stumbled onto a turf war between two sports governing bodies. Yeah.
I, I, I like to keep sports fun. And when I saw this pop up, I was like, well, this doesn't seem fun at all.
And I'm out. I'm going to watch the Olympics to watch sports that I never watch and kind of care about the U.S.
winning. And if they don't win, I will say the Olympics are dumb.
That's how I consume the Olympics. Nothing? I want to hear Hank's take.
Oh, go ahead hank do do you actually want to hear my take that i'd sure no i know i i agree with the sports fund this is obviously a sensitive subject for a lot of people i from my limited reading if she was born a female and identifies a female just because she has some extra testosterone doesn't mean she shouldn't be fighting other females. And she's like nine and six or whatever.
Her professional record is not even that good. Yeah, there was actually...
When the stories happen in sports, I think it's like swimming or track and field with people that were born male and transitioned. Which I don't think they should do.
That's way different. And that's when this story came across.
It read like that, where it was like someone that was a man transitioned and now fighting in women's boxing. But it's like, that's not really the case.
Yeah. Right.
Which I think we can all agree that if there's a man that is competing, punching women in the face, that's bad. That's very bad.
And also Algeria doesn't seem like the most friendly country towards gender reassignment surgery. So it's probably a case where she was born as a female, always identified as a female.
And then there was a ruling by the IBF that she had something extra that we don't know what it was. The best thing that came out of this, though, was this Twitter exchange I'll read to you guys.
This woman, Amy Broadhurst, wrote, Have a lot of people texting me over Iman Keeliff. Personally, I don't think she has done anything to cheat.
I think it's the way she was born and that's out of her control. The fact that she has been beaten by nine females before says it all.
Then someone named Ben Hyde replied, What would your reaction have been if you were supposed to fight Keeliff? Amy, I have great respect for your boxing legacy, but you've missed the mark here. Agreed the way you're born is out of your control, but it's a clear advantage and shouldn't be allowed.
And then someone replied, Amy Broadhurst did fight Iman Keyleth in the 2022 World Championship final. She won.
So, like, the people just spouting off left and right about shit they don't know about this guy tried to correct someone who actually fought this woman and then was like what what are we doing here so yeah the whole thing is uh yeah it's it's it's been quite quite the day on online watching the discourse fly back and forth it's a disgrace to the ancient greeks who embraced very strict traditional gender and sexuality rules correct as we all know correct um oh i had one last scotty sheffer thing for you guys uh he was asked in a interview at the olympics uh do you ever go and just look at all your trophies uh would it give you a big head and he wrote he responded yeah probably would I don't think i've ever done that i think one time this year i took like a trophy i took my green jacket in the plaid jacket and i think i held like the player's trophy in one hand and i had another trophy the other hand and walked in the living room and said sup mayor to his wife that's that's the extent of scotty scheffler uh getting a big head just wearing wearing all the things he's won and just saying what's up to his wife.

Probably trying to fuck.

Yeah, and probably trying to fuck, which good for you, dude.

You put on the green jacket and be like, what's up?

You feeling it?

Wear the green jacket and only the green jacket.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, anything else?

Mike Trout's out for the year.

Good job, PFT.

You're drafting.

I'm aware. Dinger's only.
Well, that means I get a sub for Mike Trout. Yes, that does.
Because the IR slash pedophilia list. Yes.
So I will be making my choice, I believe, tomorrow about that. Okay.
So, yeah, the strategy of drafting half your team already injured is – You're not in last. Which I did unintentionally because Mike Trout had just gotten hurt when I drafted him yeah uh he's been hurt for a while yeah yeah mike trout i forgot about i'll be honest um but there was another guy that was hurt that i drafted that had just gotten hurt yeah i think john carlo yeah all right the bears just gave up an opening drive that's not good they're they suck season's over uh anything else for olympics huey did you have any olympic stories no uh basketball is pretty quiet our three-on-three team sucks yeah oh god they're the worst they're oh and three should get chase buttinger in there yeah who's really good volleyball player really good volleyball player we got jimmer playing jimmer was hurt today we lost to lithuania we're oh and We would have beaten with Jimmer.
Yeah, but we also maybe not because we lost the first two games with Jimmer. So we just suck.
Yeah, but Jimmer matches up well against Lithuania. Yeah, we just suck.
Okay, let's get to our Mount Rushmore. Very fun Mount Rushmore.
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Okay.

Last Mount Rushmore before we head out for grit week.

Max, you were up first.

Yep.

And we're doing a very open-ended one.

Should be a fun one.

Dumb things we used to think.

So let's not put it on.

It doesn't have to be as a kid. It can be because like hank probably has one from like last week he didn't know humans were animals dumb things you used to think meatballs meatballs meatballs are the only food um okay i was i was thinking of this more as a kid i have mostly as a kid but i'm just saying if you have something he have something that's like, oh, I thought this when I was 20, I don't think we should take it away.

I have almost all kids stuff.

Yeah, no.

Oh, Hank just said, see?

Hank's face.

It's something just popped into his head.

No, I want to hear, seriously, two weeks ago. I want to hear the stuff that Hank just recently said that wasn't true.

Hank.

You can do your own.

All right, Hank, put a star next to that one, and when you say it, let us know that it was the one that literally just popped in your head. Okay.
Okay. Love that.
Okay. So I was thinking as a kid, so the first thing is the easiest one that everyone thought of is that Santa Claus was real.
Okay. Spoiler if you're riding in the color of your childhood.
Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler. I'm sorry that they're crying.
Do you guys remember what Grade you were in Spoiler Max the Grinch Specifically the moment Because I was the youngest Were you eating meatballs I had two older brothers I had a big plate of meatballs I had two older brothers And like I had an Like an uncle That had white hair And kind of looked like Santa Claus So We we, we would like look out our window some years and see, and like see him go around the, like in the backyard to like sneak in and put the presents under the, under the tree. So we would always like try and catch Santa Claus.
And then one year I turned to my brother who I shared a room with, who was like five years older than me. And I was like, I was like, Hey, do you think we're going to see Santa tonight? And he was like, like dude santa's uncle charlie you didn't know that and it was like the worst moment of my entire life meatballs you're like who was that throwing snowballs at all those years we were actually throwing meatballs yeah those were ice meatballs max's max's biography is just yeah yeah his life is meatballs all right good pick i'm so excited for whatever Hank's got in his brain right now.
Me too. All right, so I'm up? Yep.
Okay. I will go with that if you dug deep enough, you could reach China.
Yep, had it on the list. I honestly thought that I could.
Every kid. And I was probably- Is that wrong? Yeah, it's very wrong.
Because you can't reach, like you would melt before you reach the center of the earth. Also, we have not even come close to digging to the center of the earth.
Yeah, so I looked this up a couple months ago. It's actually embarrassing how shallow the deepest hole ever dug is.
It's like seven and a half miles. It's ridiculous.
It's Jurassic Park. Let's do that.
Let's rebuild Titanic, do Titanic 2, and then let's figure out a fucking way to dig more than just seven miles and the rest of the earth. Yeah.
What if it's a fruity center? We don't know. What if we're a big gusher? What if we're filled with cheese? We'll be cool.
We'll be cool. Okay.
Good one. These are all very good.
I had that as well. And this one I feel like is very relatable that everyone probably had.
I don't know if it's specific to a sport, but I thought I was going to the NBA. Yeah, that was.
I thought that if I just was in my driveway shooting hoops, someone would come by and be like, damn, that kid. Yeah.
Sign him up. I was like that with baseball, too.
Yeah. That was my career.
I was going to be a going to be a baseball player or I was like, I'll be a baseball player. If not, I'll just do basketball.

I had a really depressing conversation with Titus the other day because it dawned on me that like all of us sitting in this room, Max, maybe because he played college ball. Yeah, mine was much later.
Yeah, later. Like my my realization, I wasn't going to the NBA was like maybe 10 years old.
Like when you look around, you oh I'm the fifth best player on my team and there's how many teams I asked Titus that and he's like yeah actually I really struggled with that because I thought I was going to the NBA until I was like a senior in high school and I was like damn that actually probably really really sucks and there's probably a piece of him that going into college was like well maybe maybe if I work hard enough me, but like me mike conley greg oden yeah we're all gonna be in the nba together he said he was 6 4 when he was in eighth grade and he never grew again so it's like it kind of fucked him but i yeah like what normal kids i think they all have the same thing where you know they're 8 9 10 they're like damn i'm doing it i'm gonna go to the league and then you have that moment where you're like no no I'm not yeah that hurts hurts a lot but I thought that for a while as always we all did I will go this is this is the recent one this is a recent one all right kissing equals sex oh okay so you just found that out that's not the recent one but that I thought for a long time that's how you thought babies were made a great yeah yeah that's a great one like whether you say sex or god they're kissing that's i was like oh they're naked kissing that means yeah yeah because you would watch a movie and they would whatever yes yes a french kissed that's a good one and then i will go with if you fell through a cloud you'd come out soaking wet that's not true no are you sure yeah't. I don't know.
I feel like that picture shouldn't count. Like, what if it's raining? I feel like...
Is that not true? I always thought that if you fell through a cloud... Same.
...then all the water would just fall. Same.
That's not how it works. Oh, you thought that you would pierce the cloud, and then the cloud would break.
Like a water balloon. Okay, yeah.
You're basically falling through a water balloon, and it would that's water balloon and it would pop yeah but i think that i still think that's true no because if you fly through clouds the plane doesn't come out wet are you sure yeah sometimes right yeah some only if you're underneath well if you run if you run through fog like really dense fog you get moist right i was thinking i was like my thing was the water i just thought of another one that if you went skydiving and fell and fell through a cloud that it would just pop the entire cloud would explode and then water would just fall everywhere yeah i just literally just triggered that uh okay yeah so i'll go with this next pick because i your your thought can i specify that if you felt through a cloud that it would pop yeah yeah yeah make it make more sense yeah um because i i had to double check because i i guess maybe i still thought a small part of me thought this was real till right this second um but if you're an elevator and it falls and you jump at the end you survive you're gonna be going to be safe. Yeah.
That's not, that's, that's true. No, I just looked it up.
It's not true. That's what I'm saying.
I thought that as a kid, I haven't thought about it for a long time, but I was like, I got to double check because wait, is it true? It's not true. It's not true.
You would die. Yeah.
RIP great grandpa. So that's my pick.
Well, he was underneath that. Yeah.
It fell on his head. He shouldn't have been there.
Yeah. You got to ask.
What was the provocation? What was he doing? What was he doing at the bottom of that elevator? What the fuck was he was underneath that yeah yeah it fell in there yeah gotta ask what was provocation what was he doing what was he doing at the bottom of that elevator what was he doing under that elevator yeah one place you don't want to be i definitely thought that maybe a little bit of thought that till now um just kind of like i still think you're wrong about the cloud thing uh but this is good we're learning learning today so that's my next pick okay um this is tough there's a lot of good ones on the board right now i used to be oh we're all. Learning today.
So that's my next pick. Okay.
This is tough. There's a lot of good ones on the board right now.
I used to be very, very dumb. These are very personal.
Yeah, they're very personal. Okay.
I used to think that when you'd watch a rerun of a show on TV, that it was an all-new taping of the exact same script. Oh, that's good.

Very dumb.

I thought that I'd be watching Saved by the Bell.

Like live music.

Yeah, exactly.

They're doing the same song,

but they're just taping it again for us and broadcasting live.

Very dumb.

Yeah, very dumb.

Very dumb.

Very dumb.

September 1997 Fresh Prince is the best one.

Very dumb, but very good.

What's your favorite version of the September 1997 Fresh Prince?

Okay.

Max?

If you eat a watermelon seed, it'll grow in your stomach.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

That one, again, that's definitely in the list of I don't know.

I'm not 100% sure on that one.

Yep.

And I remember this as a kid one time searching for this, that there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow yeah yeah so you're looking for it you ask your parents to drive towards the end of the rainbow yeah yeah that's good that's good okay pft back to you i'm gonna say um i used to think that they sold marijuana and cocaine at drug stores.

So we'd be driving past the drug guy.

No,

we'd be driving past the store and I'd be like,

dad,

why,

why do they sell drugs at that store?

Shouldn't they be arrested?

And be like,

no,

it's a,

it's a different kind of drug store.

Yeah.

It's legal drugs.

Yeah.

Create them.

It's the drugs that,

yeah, that will be illegal soon. That's what they sell there.
Yeah. Okay.
Good pick. I have one that's a little bit older than just kid.
It's more teenage. But, again, I think it's relatable.
I think everyone had this moment in their life. I used to think that my parents had no idea when I was high or drunk.
And they always knew. Always fucking knew.
Like, you remember just coming home and being like, I played that off perfectly? Yeah. No chances you played off perfectly.
Because, like, being older and being sober around drunk people, you always know when someone's drunk. Yeah, I thought that my mom had no idea that I threw up three times in my room one night.
Yeah. And she came in the next day and she was talking about how it smelled like cologne.
Yeah. And I was like, I, yep, she bought it.
She thinks it's the cologne. Reeking like weed and being like, damn, I'm suave.
They had no idea. Let's get some old spice on this thing.
Good. Hank, I'm sure you had it.
Or did you, do you still think your parents didn't know? Oh no,, they knew. Because I mean, credit, like, I don't know how it was like, my parents were at least, as long as I was home safe, they weren't going to like, be like, you're drunk.
Yeah. In my head, I was like, I'm good.
You know? I just got in trouble so many times that it got to a point where as long as I wasn't super fucked up. Yeah.
I'd be like, I got away. Yeah.
I'm not talking about obviously, there's been super fucked up times. I'm talking about like that middle zone where it's like you're fucked up And you think that you're Pulling it off Yeah You're never What you learn is that Your parents just don't Want to deal with it Yeah they just want you To get home safe Yeah Okay you're home I don't want to make a thing It was as long as I never Got caught in the act Right I got caught like Throwing up a couple times That was always a big problem I would always try And make an excuse And say it was somebody else There was one time There was one time I threw up in my room and i like took a shower at like four o'clock in the morning and my dad came up and was like why is there puke in your room and i was like it it wasn't me yeah someone else's only person there someone else's beer one time my parents found a uh empty case of natural light in my room and i just stared at it and i tried to think of a lie and after about like five seconds i just looked at most i got i got nothing yeah yeah you just i just blame it on a friend and they'd be like why are you carrying these beers oh it's someone else's what what that makes it and then you think in your head like i got fucking wow what what it's what i'm like uh what's the guy's name in catch me if you can frank abangale i'm frank abangale that's what michael ervin did with the cops.
He was like, this isn't, it's not my pipe. I'm, I'm like, what's the guy's name in Catch Me If You Can? Frank Abingale.
I'm Frank Abingale. That's what Michael Irvin did with the cops.
He was like, this isn't, it's not my pipe. I'm holding it for a friend who recently asked me to help him quit smoking.
Yes. So I took it from him.
Yeah. Then I put it under my seat.
I got called with a fan in the kitchen one time because I was smoking weed and I like coughed. And I was like, I think if I fan out the air where I just coughed out the window it'll be it'll be fine and then my parents were like why is there a fan in the kitchen and then i just was so high i just looked at them i was like the worst the worst one i got was i got caught with um the i don't know if you guys used to do this back in the day the uh paper towel roll sploof oh yeah oh yeah no no no no no i'm not even talking about are you talking about like the dryer the dryer sheets yeah i'm talking about making a bowl out of the paper towel i would i do the top little tin foil punch the holes into the tin foil and then you put your hand over it you smoke it and then you let your hand off they just found a a huge paper towel roll with a hole on top with with tin foil and they're Do they have any idea? It's like, no, it's a science project or some shit.
I was an Apple guy. You're an Apple guy? Apple guy.
We used to go to the store. It was a can.
You'd can? Soda can. Like crunch it up? Yeah.
We used to go to the store. Yeah, soda can was big.
We would buy like a 20-ounce plastic bottle, some Bic ballpoint pens,

and then a Nestle Crunch bar because it had tinfoil on it. Yeah.

And so we were like MacGyver.

Yeah.

Like you put me in a store, and I'll figure out how to make a bong.

I think it was Pop-Tarts.

Someone told me that Bible paper you could smoke at the war.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

We should make a gravity bong.

No.

That's the worst feeling in the world.

No, old school we should make.

Oh, yeah.

After a gravity bong hit.

Like after you hit it, there's no worse feeling than being so high after.

Thank you. We should make a gravity bong No, that's the worst feeling in the world No, old school we should make Oh yeah, after a gravity bong hit There's no worse feeling than being so high after a gravity bong And there's nothing you can do about it It's panic, it's panic We could turn the bed of my El Camino into a giant gravity bong I'm down A bathtub gravity bong That's what it was when I got caught with the fan Here's what we do We fill up the El Camino with water like one of those philly dumpsters that they hang out in and then we get like a giant recycling bin and we put a hole in the top of it i love it press it down biggest hits out of it i used we used to like hide obviously like vodka and water bottles and that's how we could kind of like you know bring it in in and out in and out of the house and one time my mom replaced uh the booze with like laundry detergent or like bubble something like dish soap like clear dish open I drank the whole thing and like I legit burped a bubble and was like I think she got you yeah she got me bad yeah and then the other worst one this was this was this is by far the worst of like I thought I got away with it I would have the you know the the sploof with the dryer sheets in it in my bathroom that didn't have windows and i did this one time because i thought it would work turn the shower all the way in hot towel on the door and then there was a ventilator so i was like all the smoke's going up there i'll smoke like a little uh a little bowl before blow in the thing and then i'll be in the shower for like 20 minutes so by the time i'm out the the you know condensation has washed it out that vent went straight to my basement so i walked out into like my dining room my parents were just like what were you doing i was like oh what's up guys they're like you know that vent goes to the basement.
I was like, oh, that's so good.

That was a great little tangent.

Yeah. Yeah.
That was nice. That's why I thought this would be a fun open-ended one.
I think an AWL sent me this one, so shout out that guy. The Mount Rushmore topic.
I can't remember. I'm pretty sure, so I apologize.
That person, shout out you. You know who you are.
All right, so you have two picks. All right.
I will go with girls pee from their butt. Yep.
Okay. And this was the recent one that blind drive signs meant that a blind person lived there.
I learned that in my 20s. Wait, where it says like blind.
Blind drive. What about blind? Oh, yeah, that's not yeah i'm thinking blind pedestrian

blind pedestrian crossing means that there is a blind person but blind drive means that you just can't see the driveway yeah i always thought that meant that a blind person lives there and they drive there all right i have one more um this one's very dumb and it it comes from something you're told as a kid, and I just assumed. I thought my balls, my testicles were Play-Doh.
So when my parents told me don't eat Play-Doh, I thought they were trying to be like, hey, don't eat Play-Doh, because your balls will just get bigger, because it will just go right to your balls. I thought my balls were Play-Doh.
That would rot. You just don't know what they are when you're a little kid.
And you start like that first time way before puberty and you like start touching them. You're like, this is weird.
I'm like, oh, it must be Play-Doh. That's why they tell me not to eat Play-Doh.
That's a good one. Yeah.
That's a good one. Is this my last pick? Yeah.
Okay. Last pick.
I will go. I honestly used to think that every adult was smart.

Yeah. I thought if you were grown up.
Yeah. You knew what was going on.
Yeah. They kind of lied to you.
You understood it. Yeah.
And then you grow up and you're like. We're all dumb.
No. We're all really fucking dumb.
Yeah. Yeah.
You don't know what you don't know. I was probably smarter when I was a kid than I am now.
I was definitely more intellectually curious. Yeah.
I was definitely ask better questions. Yep.
like had a had a more a mind that was like trying to figure things out instead of just being like oh that's what it is yeah but if an adult said something it's like yeah no they're right they're an adult yeah because most grown-up told me either are bullshit like those they'll they'll answer something just because they don't want to be wrong with a little kid or they just say it is what it is. Or yeah.
Or they're very confident and not smart at all. Yeah.
Those are the ones you want to watch out for. I need a new, I need a new fact because like my kids always say when I, when I tell them plans, I try to tell them the plan so they know what's coming and they'll be like, we know that already.
So then I was like, well, how about this? Did you know the Peregrine Falcon's the fastest animal? And that blew their mind. But I don't have a second one.
Another fun, like an animal fact? Yeah, or anything. Or a fun fact in general.
That's the extent of my knowledge. You can always go with it.
I don't have anything that I'm confident about. Did you know that Detroit's further east than Atlanta? Yeah, okay, that one's good.
Yeah. Human head weights eight pounds? Yeah.
McGuire? Good one, too. Okay.
All right, Max, your last one. Teachers lived at school.
Yeah. Good pick.
Great one. Also, big guy, you could go with, did you know that Klay Thompson's last game with the Warriors, he went 0 for 10? Yeah.
True. Yeah, but that's a good pick, Max.
I had that on my list, too. I thought about that one.
Yeah. Also, nothing worse than when you, the once a year, you called your teacher mom.
Yeah, I thought about that. I thought about, when I thought of teacher lived at school, I thought about that as well as well and i was like i don't know how to do that all right what other ones i had um i thought because this is like when technology was you know before the internet everything i thought my game boy controlled the airplane yeah that's why they told you to turn it off um so i thought like they're like turn it off because if you hit left here when you're playing you know Tetris it's gonna go the plane's gonna go left yeah I also thought uh a million dollars was the most amount of money you could have you max out like when you get a million dollars you're set for life when yeah nothing else like no one will ever you're just you retire if you have a million dollars boom you're done you retire at the age of seven age of seven.
I thought that I was an elf when I was a kid. Who? I thought because I had pointy ears.
I saw myself in the mirror one time. I was like, fuck, small, I might be an elf.
That's tough. I used to think you actually won the money when you get a pop-up on your computer.
Yeah. Yeah.
Scams. Yep.
I also, in that that same vein thought there was no correlation between what i was downloading on limewire and my computer's crashing yep yep oh i mean yeah you could have you could have a long conversation about songs that you thought were other band songs yeah i thought dispatch wrote crazy game of poker oh i mean every 50 cent song was just Soulja Boy. Every song was Soulja Boy.
Any others, Max, that you had? Duck Tape was Duck, D-U-C-K. Like, it was ducks.
Made out of ducks? Oh, that's interesting. I was killing a lot of ducks.
That's why it's called Duck Tape. Yeah.
The only reason that kids had glasses was because they didn't eat enough carrots. Yes, carrots were big time.
Night vision. Yeah.
I thought I could get night vision if I ate enough carrots. Also off of vision, if you sit too close to the TV, you'll go blind.
Oh, the other one, if someone slaps you in the back when you're making a face, you're stuck with that face for the rest of your life. That was a big one you take a shower during a lightning storm you'll get electrocuted yeah i thought chocolate milk came from brown cows okay until i was like 17.
so you're 17? yeah i was up north driving past a brown cow and uh i pointed to my cousin i said you know chocolate milk comes from those things and he said what the fuck are you talking about i said okay i'm sorry i should have known that I should have known that. Where did you, chocolate milk comes from those things.
And he said, what the fuck are you talking about? I said, okay, I'm sorry.

I should have known that.

I should have known that.

Where did you think strawberry milk came from?

I knew that was artificial.

Okay.

I thought the brown was in the cow, you know, and it got mixed.

I don't know.

Okay.

I used to think I was going to be six feet tall because sometimes you go to a doctor

and they're like, okay, you're projected to grow this tall. So I would be six feet tall.
I used to think I was going to be six feet tall Because sometimes you go to a doctor and they're like Okay you're projected to grow this tall Thought I'd be six feet tall I used to think OJ was innocent I swore OJ was innocent up and down I was so happy when They found him not guilty I When video games First started getting good When did Playstation come outstation was like late 90s right i thought that um i i would because like my my parents were like you can't play video games during the week i thought that i was pulling it off when like my mom would walk in the room and i was playing like 2k or madden and i was like it's not a video game i'm watching the game i'm watching sports yeah i thought the graphics were so good and they were so bad looking back at it yeah i was just like yeah i got this she has no idea that these aren't real games oh man so stupid just so stupid i used to think that if you if you found the tootsie pop that had the native american shooting a star, you could take it to the gas station. They give you a new one.

They give you a free Tootsie Pop.

Yes, yes.

Hank, any more?

Any more recent?

I mean, there's definitely some recent.

Hank, I would like you to keep a running list, though,

of just things that you find out.

Yeah.

Just like things that upend small parts of your world.

There's a couple that we have on this Mount Rushmore

that I'm still a little 50-50 on.

Elevator, crowds. I think if you you jumped high enough you might still get six feet yeah maybe did i say the chewing gum i can get the i can get the surgery what if you swallow it it stays there forever that's one that i always thought it was seven years that was what i was told seven regardless i still might think that's true yeah and hank just swallows all his gum which is one of the most underrated not talked about enough stories on part of my take that every time hank chews a piece of gum he swallows it i would get like the the cbs bags of gumballs that's crazy eat them like they were just that's crazy even to this day you swallow all your gum yeah that's fucking it is nuts crazy i when i was in like i don't know how old i was but whenever you swallow all your gum.
Yeah. That's fucking.
It is nuts. Crazy.
I, when I was in like, I don't know how old I was, but whenever you get like your first boners as a kid, I thought that meant that I had AIDS. Yeah.
I thought it was like, oh, I'm sick. Yeah.
I don't know. I'm going to die.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was a crazy time. Okay.
Good. Good Mount Rushmore.
That was a fun one some good tangents hey it's ria from tricks

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It is Matt Damon and Casey Affleck.

They have a new movie out called The Instigators.

You can watch it on Apple TV.

It is an awesome movie.

We got a screener.

We felt special for it.

I guess my first question, though, is you guys have been doing a bunch of interviews today. Is this background like a knuckleball that's thrown at you where you're like, these two idiots are now interviewing us? I don't know how we got this interview, but we're happy to do it.
Everybody's got DraftKings behind them so far today. Good.
Every outlet. We had your PR.
One of your PR people were like, you guys have the most time with them. We don't know how that happened.
And we're just like, oh, shit. We're going to change that, actually.
Yeah. I was like, I guess we suck.
Yeah. I didn't tell you.
You got two minutes. Yeah.
Yeah. So you've been doing a lot of interviews today.
It's always interesting doing these because you were obviously promoting the movie. What's the dumbest question that you've been asked so far? And we'll make sure not to ask that question.
Mostly it's been the answers that are dumb. The questions have been pretty good.
But I don't want to put you guys on, you know, make you feel weird or anything. But the last guy that interviewed us was an Olympic fencer competing in his third Olympics this summer.
And just the sweetest guy. Great questions.
Really smart. Killer athlete.
So now we got you and you know. But come on.
You guys got 40 minutes. That's not a real sport.
Let's be honest. Fencing? We're doing fencing? I don't think you'd tell him that.
I would as long as he didn't have his little fencing. a real sword.
Yeah, right. It's got like a little electronic thing at the end.
You're 100% wrong. It's one of the oldest sports.
It's a great sport. Didn't you see Princess Bride? You didn't like that? No, Princess Bride was great.
That was real swords. Real swords, yeah.
When they start using real swords and fencing, I'll start watching. Yeah.
They used to, apparently. He was just telling us that he was talking about the equipment equipment and he said too many people used to die.
So that's why they put the thing at the end of the sword now. Also that's saying boxing's not a real sport because they don't use real fists.
Like they got something, a cushy thing on them. Although that fencing story you just said, Matt, that feels like every fencing guy says that to be like, actually we used to be really tough.
Like you don't realize like it was so tough. People died.
So I feel like you got duped there. All right.
So the movie though is awesome. And my first question about the movie is you guys obviously have done so many things in your career.
Is there something specific when you work together and with Ben where you're like, this is just so much more fun because we're, we're hanging with our friends and like the familiarity of it is just brings you back to early days. Do you have that feeling when, when you, when you do a movie together? For sure.
Yeah. Yeah.
But also it's not only the familiarity, it's like the, the, the work process. Like when you go way back with someone, um, you don't waste any time on like diplomacy, you know which you know takes up a lot of your day when you're when you're in an artistic endeavor with a whole group of people a lot of times you're protecting everybody's feelings and you're you know well you know what's the best way i can say this and when you're with your old friend you're just like dude that sucks man we gotta do something else like you know figure out.
Like, and you kind of get to the root of the problem faster. And so much of filmmaking is just problem solving.
And so the quicker you can get to, all right, what's the problem? How can we

fix it? The more fun it is because you move faster, you're more efficient. Like there's a

better kind of creative momentum. But because you have that foundation, it's like, you know,

the problem with doing that with people you don't know is people's feelings get hurt or they feel

Like,

Thank you. momentum.
But because you have that foundation, it's like, you know, the problem with doing that with people you don't know is people's feelings get hurt or they feel like there isn't that underlying respect or, you know, when that stuff's just a given, if you've known someone your whole life, it's just like, well, obviously I love and respect you, but like, you know, we're lighting money on fire in production right now. Like we got to figure this out right now.
No feelings get hurt. Yeah.
I like that. It's a a fair point you got the underlying relationship and you don't have to worry about pretending to be nice or at least just being nice and and wasting time doing that i have a dumb question about just being on a movie set in general um does it ever get boring yeah like when you're filming a movie because like how much of your day is actually spent doing the work very little yeah and and it depends what you think of the work the time there's a there's an old saying that says it's it what they call is it between action and cut is a take right so there's this old tongue twister saying it's it's not the take that takes the time to take the take it's the time between the take that takes the time to take the take it's all that time i just got hypnotized action when you're like setting things up or thinking about what you want to do next that's that's real good time spent sometimes but it takes up most of the day and if you added up all the seconds that were spent while the camera was actually rolling i don't know what would it be an hour you know what i mean uh maybe a couple more during on a 10 hour day or something so most of the downtime.
And a lot of that time is when other people are doing what they need to do. Like you do your bit and then they got to move all the equipment and do stuff.
And so you got to wait the same way. It's probably boring for the for the crew sometimes when you're, you know, need on take 10 of some scene that you're doing and they've heard it a million times and they don't want to.
but so you learn to be patient. You learn to occupy yourself with other things or to like use that time to think about what you're going to do next.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I imagine having your friends around, people that you've known a long time makes all that time a little bit better. It makes it easier.
Matches goes on Wordle. You try to like spend the time like catching up with your buddy and that's over there doing like Tetris six hours a day.
Wait, what is the game're playing matt is it wordle does it take you six hours to do wordle it does not take me six hours to do wordle no i i usually like if it's a slow day if i know it's like a boring day like eight entrances and exits like sometimes i'll bring my phone and catch up on emails and do stuff and like ben and and I are also, you know, we have this studio artist equity and we're, and so that's, that's a, it takes a lot of time. Even when I'm not there in the office, there's a lot of stuff that needs to get done.
And it's angry birds. So this movie is great, but when you guys were creating this and coming up with the idea, were you like, hey, we know we can play the hits here because people are going to love us back in Boston.
You got the heist. It's a comedy as well.
There's got to be a part of you where you're like, not playing the hits, but if someone said a Mad Lib like Matt Damon, Casey Affleck, Ben Affleck are doing a heist movie in Boston and it's funny, it's's like, yeah, I'm in. I'm a hundred percent in.
I'll watch that all day. Did that go through your thought process? Like we know this is going to be a hit.
No, I wish we'd talk to you back when we were. Yeah, we would have for confidence.
No, we case wrote the script with Chuck McClain, who's a Boston guy. And and and like there was a lot of work once we started figuring out who was going to be in it, there was a lot more work to do.
So Case and Chuck came back to New York, and we worked with the director, we were like, locked in a room for like three months trying to figure it out. But what we really knew we wanted to do was a movie that was fun, and moved fast, like had a momentum to it.
And that was just really entertaining was kind of our like midnight run is is like the kind of north star for us for for movies like this it's kind of a perfect movie um because it actually has some some kind of emotional heft at the end too it's like it really sneaks up on you but it's really fun throughout the whole movie and you're like with the characters even when they're bickering and arguing and um and so that's what we were trying to kind of like model the the movie on and and that's kind of really all we were thinking uh it never felt like a layup right it felt like with a clear lane you know it was we we really wanted to be good and and i actually don't think that everyone's gonna like if you made a stinker people let us know it's not like ah you know they're gonna just go anyway not these days like you got to make a good movie people find out about it really quick everyone's on social media and they go this movie sucks and nobody goes so we knew that we had to to do something good and doesn't matter who's in it uh just got lucky that we had like our director doug lyman but someone great in every single part like you know really experienced comedians and great actors and so kind of supported us do you guys when you guys are doing movies i'll start with you casey like if you are embarking on a project um how quickly can you tell like this is a hit or this might not be this might not turn out exactly how i want it to be i don't do that that well i even when the movie's done it's hard for me to see exactly like i just get too close to things so sometimes movies over i'm like when i see the first cut of a movie i'm like oh man we didn't do it it missed and then people really like it and then years later you watch it again you're like that was really good it's pretty good it takes me a minute and some distance to be able to see a thing that i've been in clearly um and when you're on set and when you're reading it before you get to set it's just a shot in the dark i mean your your your only guide is like who are the other people involved do i want to work with them do i Do I like, you know, is this going to be something I can learn on? Is there something I think I can contribute? Whether it turns out is to be good. It's just, there's too many factors.
It's out of your control. You can put together, assemble the best people in the planet and still make something that just doesn't work.
So you got to go in focused on the process and letting go of the results in some way. Yeah.
You talked about some of the great actors that are in this film. And one of my favorites is in here.
Paul Walter Hauser. Great actor.
Oh, man. Fantastic actor, right? Yeah, he's amazing.
So as you're writing this movie, do you envision him in this role? Or when he was cast in this role, were you like, okay, is perfect had you worked with him before it's just i'm enthralled with everything that he does first thing i'd seen was blackbird and it was right when before they were casting it and i was like that guy's amazing that's that is a great performance um didn't know him didn't know anything else about him i didn't i didn't know him i, I'd seen him in Jewel and Blackbird. But no, I mean, he's also one of those guys, you know, we've been doing it for a long time.
And like, we kind of know how the magic trick's done. And when you see somebody up close who's just a baller, it's just undeniable.
Like from the second he walked on set and started working you're like god that guy is so freaking good um he really is one of the best actors out there um so yeah i'm i'm you know we're trying to do something else with him at artist equity now um a project that he wrote actually i want to do as much as i can with him just because i think i just think he's incredible can i pitch you. Can I pitch you two projects for him that I think he would knock out of the park? Yeah, I'll tell him.
One would be – You're going to have to sign something first. Okay.
No, you can steal this. Steal my IP.
One would be him playing Andy Reid in the Andy Reid story. Oh, that's a great idea.
I think it would crush that. Wow, that's not bad.
That's not bad. And then Confederacy Dunces.
If that movie ever gets made, he needs to play Ignatius. Philip Seymour Hoffman was looking at that for a really long time and got close, I think, a few times.
I remember talking to him about it 20 years ago. I read a few scripts of that.
Yeah. And never quite as good as the book, but that's a good call.
Those are two really good calls. And in fact, I will text Paul when I get home tonight and I'll tell him.
Let him know. I wish I could buy stock in somebody winning best actor at some point.
Like if there was a market out there, I'd put a lot of money on that guy. That's a good call.
Yeah, that's a very good call. We should do that.
We should create a stock market. Create the stock market.
There was something called the Hollywood Stock Exchange for a while i i don't know if you could bet on them being i think movies you bet on or something or was it just no you buy stock in actors and movies and then it goes up and down based on not sure what but i think that's the hard i like that yeah we'll figure out the market for that uh matt i had a question for you um Did you not get invited to do a roast at Tom Brady's thing? No, I did. That's why I did the voiceover at the beginning, because I couldn't go to L.A.
because I was in New York, and I had to go to the Met Ball the next day. Oh, what happens there? That's sort of a Met Ball kind of guy.
Oh, no. Is that true? Are you a Met gala guy over a Tom Brady guy? Don't judge him.
Guys, here's the key to a happy marriage. I would rather be happy than right, okay? Yeah.
But it is Tom Brady. It is Tom Brady, and Tom understood.
I texted with him. He invited me to go out, and then it was good that I was able to.
There was a nice little video package they did at the beginning. And so I went to a studio here in New York and did a voiceover for that.
I wasn't invited, if you're curious. Yeah.
Did you help Ben ride his roast? I wasn't invited to go. I wasn't invited to roast.
Okay, yeah. How did you think your brother did? I actually didn't see it.
Okay, that's good. So you could just say he did well.
You could just be like, great job. I'm sure he did really good.
i did i'm pretty good at a roast though i really i kind of roasted mad at his wedding that was great trust me you did what did you say he killed me he did like 30 straight minutes of stand-up like he was dave chapelle or something that was my one shot and i took he just destroyed me in front of like my family and friends it was incredible yeah you're allowed to do that at a wedding you're allowed to just like you know just be like here it was also a wedding like we this was 15 years ago but my wife and i had already been together for 10 years and we had been married for like eight of those years and so it was like we never we had run to the courthouse when we got married and so we never got to have a wedding so like 10 years after we met we decided to do a big wedding and so it was so it was kind of a more fun affair because it wasn't like oh is it gonna work out like we were already married for a long time and we just had a big fun weekend with our friends and um until Casey yeah you can't that that was smart of you Casey you can't what's the worst that happened they're going to go back to being married which they've done for eight years before like i was very nice about lucy yeah she deserves um all right so uh we're taping this a couple months before it comes out uh do you guys want to give us a prediction on the celtic season so that way you can either look really smart or really bad yes yes i'll give you my prediction well my hope is obviously probably what all our hope is but but my prediction is i mean porzingis is probably coming back after game four did a horn just go outside like shut up man i was a sign look i think we're the best team left i think we're the deepest team and if we can stay injury free and if he can come back, I feel like we really should win this thing.

And I'm hoping that we do.

I will be gutted if we don't.

Especially after that, you know, we're taping this just before game two in the Eastern Conference finals.

I didn't love how close the game was at home the other night, but we definitely stole one back from them.

And so it feels like one of those faded years yeah at the moment but i'm you know it'll be i'll be gutted if we don't win it okay and casey will you get the wolves or something it'd be funny if you were just like yeah wolves in five no problem i want to ask you guys a question did you guys see. You did.
Did you feel like it was fair? No, not at all. We ripped it apart.
It was basically Robert Kraft being like, I need more credit for everything that's happened, which is a crazy thing to think about because if you're an owner of a sports team, you are a billionaire, you own you're never going to get as much credit as the quarterback and the coach but all these guys they want this credit of being like I did more than everyone realizes and in in doing that he ends up kind of looking bad and he makes like I think they slanted it so hard against Belichick that everyone who has watched the Patriots the last 20 years was like this is not how it happened like this is the best coach of all time. What are they talking about? So I think it actually hurt them.
And you think that that agenda came from Robert Kraft? I think Robert Kraft wants to get into the Hall of Fame, and I think he kind of overplayed his hand here because they don't let a lot of owners in. Like Jerry Jones just got in, I don't know, like five, six years ago.
How would Robert Kraft not get into the Hall of Fame if any other owner is in the hall of fame well matt i don't know if you know but the patriots have been involved in some controversies with the nfl so that might be why those are fake controversies he'll get in but i think he was trying to basically put out like a documentary saying this is all i did and in watching it it, we're just like, what is going on here? It's hard to do that with a documentary, too, to have an audience watch it and understand exactly what the agenda is as you're watching it. Sometimes you go back and you're like, oh, well, it turns out his production company was involved, yada, yada, yada.
As you're watching this, when you see the interviews with Coach Belichick and he looks like he'd rather be anywhere else than in that chair answering these questions. But he always looks like that in an interview.
That's a fair point, but I felt like it was especially in this one, and you understand that they shot it during the season while he was an employee of Robert Kraft who was telling him, hey, go sit for this interview. Because I actually think Belichick would not have sat for any interview with anyone if it was just his own choice.
Right. But he was kind of made to do it.
So, yeah, it kind of ended up, I think, being like a little bit more sympathetic towards Belichick and that point of view than they wanted it to be. Yeah.
You know what was interesting to me about that? Like one of the details was that him and Ernie figured out like saw that drew bledsoe was getting nervous getting like skittish feet in the pocket like i never ever knew that and that never came out right remember that year when it was going down everyone's like who's he gonna play this week like oh my god he's putting the kid back in like because bledsoe was like the guy in doing a hundred million dollar contract and all that stuff I never I never realized that they actually saw something they were like because Bledsoe played in that era where I mean he took punishment like and and how does that not get to you the accumulation of all those hits like you start thinking about that you're coming off of an injury and that that it was actually a calculated decision they were like well the 22 year old kid's cool with it like yeah let's leave him yeah um that i thought was really cool i'd never i'd never known that it also says that it was so well done it's like 100 rotten tomatoes watching it you just sit down and you watch from beginning to end it's like one of the best sports talks i think it leaves people with the impression that that is how it was that you know what i mean there i haven't talked to a lot of people that are like i don't know like I think we got manipulated a little bit I think it leaves people with the impression that that is how it was that, you know what I mean? There, I haven't talked to a lot of people that are like, I don't know. Like, I think we got manipulated a little bit.
I think, you know, the kind of take that you have is not the take that I hear most of the time. Most, most people just go like, wow, it was interesting to learn that Belichick was like X, Y, and Z.
Right. I'm saying, I think this might've been, here's another question though.
Just real quick. Cause I know you guys know know so much about this.
What's going to happen to Aaron Rodgers? What do you mean? He's probably going to get injured again. He's going to get injured, and then he's going to run for vice president, and he's going to become vice president of the United States.
You think he'll get hurt again, huh? I'm a Bears fan, so Aaron Rodgers has tortured my entire life, so I hate him. I've been trying to get him put jail for a very long time um and then the minute on about this draft choice as a bears fan yeah he's gonna be incredible he's eccentric he's cool paints his fingernails that's not a problem right i don't i don't see why that would be a problem no i'm just wondering if you think it'll be it's that number one it's that it's really tough like do you get peyton manning or do you get you knowabit? You know what I mean? You didn't have to say Mitch.
Mitch was the second pick, so that was wrong. He was the second pick, but Mahomes was in that draft.
Yes, he was. He was.
That's got to hurt. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you guys got Drake May. So Hank, our producer, is a big Patriots fan.
He was actually in the documentary because he went to jail for Tom Brady.

He didn't like the documentary. He thought it was too slanted, so I don't know.

He thought it was just

too much hate on Bill Belichick

and not giving him enough love. I did.
I like Belichick's

thing at the roast where he said, you know,

it's brave of you to do a roast for a couple hours

rather than in a 10-part

Apple series.

That was really funny.

So, going off of that, Hank, our producer, he admitted a couple weeks ago that he is like, for the first time in his life, he has to come to grips with the fact that he might just be a loser this year in football. Have you guys had that thought where you're like, oh, this is different now.
We're losers again. If Hank is an old school Patriots fan and he's anywhere near our age, then he's 30.
All he's known is joy. So he's got no fucking idea.
Being a Patriots fan was a certain kind of hell for and it's true. And maybe this is why we have a different perspective on the Robert Kraft thing until Robert Kraft bought the team.
Yeah. Like they were it was brutal going out to Foxborough to watch them play.
It was brutal watching them play on TV. Like it just was it was heartbreaking constantly.
In fact, his dad used to always say bet against the Patriots no matter what. Just bet against the Patriots.
If you want to make money gambling, the only sure thing to do is bet against the Patriots when we were kids. So I'm comfortable with knowing that they're going to, you know, they're going to go through that kind of predictable next state.
You got to rebuild. You got to rebuild properly.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Hank is young enough where he's only known joy in his life as a Boston sports fan.
So across the board. That's amazing to me, like, because our formative years were so different, like this i mean we had we had the celtics in the 80s which was huge that was all i had within that's what we had um but every other team was just a would break your heart every year the patriots less so because they just were never good they were it was like excruciating watching them play yeah yeah so if you were to rank your your favorite like top three Boston sports memories, what would they be? Memories? Yeah.
Memories, being there, or just moments? I guess your three favorite championships. 2004.
I have to start with 2004. I went to the parade.
And 07. I drove up from New York and got to Boston And we were all going to the parade.
We had my nephews. We had everybody, my oldest daughter.
And I literally ran up to Boylston Street before we were going to go meet them at the river to watch the duck boats go out by myself and stood on Boylston Street and just cried. I was in my 30s as the duck boats went by.
Like, that's how profound that was for, I didn't think we would, it's that thing that you couldn't believe. It's like the dog catching the car and then eating it in front of you.
Like, I just couldn't believe. Matt and I, in 2004, we went to Yankee Stadium.
It was game three. Game three.
It was the moment the curse got broken.

They didn't lose.

That was the end of losing because then they won that game.

They won the next three games.

And then they swept Cincinnati.

And we finally won. See, that's how bad it was.

We wore Red Sox hats into Yankee Stadium.

And we thought, all right, we'll see what happens.

And as we walked in, everyone was like, oh, it's so cute that you wore your hat. They just so didn't care.
It was so not a rivalry to them. They were so sure they were going to win.
It was just awful. Casey, they're going to cook you in the comments to this video.
You meant to say Cardinals. They swept the Cardinals.
You meant to say Cardinals. We got your back.
We'll edit it out. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I cooked you. Yeah, yeah.
I've been cooked before. Good.
Yeah. We'll edit it out.
So wait, who's in those championships, but who's your Mount Rushmore? I should have known that because it was Jon Hamm's team, huh? Yeah. Who's your Mount Rushmore of Boston athletes? Oh, that's a great question.
That's a great question. Thank you.
I mean, obviously, Tom, for football football there's zero doubt about that wait no no no for baseball so you can so here's the thing i would go big poppy i think a lot of people would say ted williams i'm gonna say in our life no no but i'm saying you're saying boston all time okay right because when you get to basketball what do you do bill russell right 11 championships player coach like how do you not put bill russell on that mount rushmore you never see that again right but then you've also got larry you've got paul pierce you've got the big guy i like paul paul i don't think he's on my rush no no but i'm just saying all right red arbok when all is said and done um so and then but and then bobby or that would be so i would probably go tom poppy uh uh bobby or uh bill russell okay that's a good four yeah that's a strong four so if you're if you're casting uh like the 28 to 3 patriots if you're making a movie i i assume that you guys would be involved in the production of that that feels like it would be right in your wheelhouse who plays i would hope so who plays what role well i cast him as matt ryan yeah good answer yeah uh who gets tommy what's that who gets to play tommy who plays tom brady i don't know who plays tom brady um who today what young actor could play tom yeah jacob alorty this guy's like you know he's tall yeah he's awesome i don't know i'm not gonna cast it gronk plays himself i don't think anybody would believe it if you made it into a movie yeah it's true what true. What's the one role that you passed up that you kick yourself constantly? You're like, damn, I really should have taken that role.
You know, it's funny. I really have a more kind of Zen philosophy about this because there's a lot of roles I've passed up that were really great, that turned into great movies.
But for one reason or another, I had to pass it up i i i really feel like the right actor gets the part you know it just kind of works out it um but the biggest one that i ever passed without a question um i had a chance to be an avatar and um but it conflicted with the born ultimatum with the post-production of the born ult. So I just couldn't do it.
And the bummer for me was that I couldn't work with Jim Cameron because he doesn't work that often. And I realized in passing, I was like 35 years old.
I was like, I'm probably not going to get another chance to work with Jim Cameron. And that sucks because I really would have loved to work with him.
I love his movies. I would have learned a lot.
And I probably would have made more money than any actor in history had I taken the part. But, you know, I don't – it doesn't keep me up at night.
I mean, I know why I had to pass, so I'm at peace with it. Sounds like every now and then you think about how much money that would have been.
I think because it's funny because it's like,

because it's not real money.

It's right.

Right.

So it's not like,

it's not like that money got taken from me,

which would have bankrupted me by the way.

It was a,

it's just money that I never,

it's like,

I also could have invested in Apple's 20 years ago.

You know what I mean?

But I didn't.

Was it 10%? It was 10% of the, earnings from the film? Yeah, yeah. Do you ever go back and look at what the total earnings are? What are the total earnings, PFT? All I know is it made over 2 billion.
Let's do it right now. Made over 2 billion.
Let's do it right now. Tell me what the earnings are.
Total earnings. And this is just Avatar 1.
Oh, no. This is Avatar 1, right? Yeah.
$3 billion. $3 billion is the total earnings? Is it $3 billion? $3 billion.
I'm not good at math. What's $300 million? $300 million.
You're good at math, Casey. Wait, Avatar 2.
$300 million. Oh, no.
And Avatar 2 is $2.3 billion. Oh, and think about that, Matt.
I never even thought about that. I doubt he would have given me the same deal on the second one.
He would have been like, dude, come on. You would have had that money, and you also definitely wouldn't have been doing this interview with us, us two shitheads right now.
You would have been like, I don't have to use the press. You see? You would have owned a draft hire.
Exactly. I would have owned Barthel Sports.
Yeah. It would would be great all right so wait what was the answer for you casey is there one that you look back you're like i kind of wish not like a huge regret but like man i had that in front of me and it would have been cool if i did that no no and really i i mean uh not really there haven't been a ton that have been like people not begging me to do some movie that could be great and it isn't great i mean you know and i don't think it is it's i mostly like see things i want and i just really try hard to get them yeah and i usually don't get them and then some of them i do and then i do those there are very few that i pass on that have ended up being, you know, hugely successful or super cool movies.
Yeah. No way you would have passed on Avatar, right? No, he's not that dumb.
I told him not to do it, in fact, because I was hoping to come to me next. They just have a sheet.
They're like, all right, Ben said no, Matt said no matt said no okay see there you are uh um all right so this movie though is is is very good i people need to go see it it's it's very funny was it cool having a moment where you're like we're back in boston filming this the you know the three of us together you know 20 whatever five since Goodwill Hunting. Have you had that pinch yourself moment where it's like, you never thought in a million years when we did Goodwill Hunting, this is where we'd be right now.
Yeah. I, I like my dream was to my dream childhood dream kind of ended with Goodwill Hunting coming out, you know? And I remember that experience and afterwards going, well, what do I do now? Like that was, that was it.
That was all I ever wanted was to, was to make a great movie and be in it. And, and, and so like the fact that we're still able to do this, like we love this job.
We love it. It's so fun making movies and having people like them.
And if people like them, if enough people like them, then you get to do another one. And it's really hard to string together a career because there's no tenure or anything, you know, it's just what's your next thing.
And so most careers kind of die on the vine or fizzle out or for whatever reason, it's very hard to sustain a career. And so the fact that we're still both working 25 years after that movie is great.
And that is the pipe dream, really. So we're just trying not to screw it up.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's got to be very cool. Done a good job not screwing it up so far.
You guys you guys are very humble yeah you guys both realize you're really fucking good actors thanks man yeah i don't know i i feel like maybe this is why it's good that we don't have like a ton of success because i'd be just walking around being like yeah i'm just gonna make another hit it's not gonna be a big deal like whatever that's by the way that like you can't think that way in the movie because it's like, that's like, that's like poison. Like, if you think this is going to be a hit, it's not.
Like, the one time I was like, this is going to be a hit was that movie, The Great Wall that I did. Man, was that not a hit.
And it was like, and I figured it out, like, a month into shooting, and we and we had like four months to go. And I was just like, I came to realize that as the definition of a professional actor, still get up every day and be like, and you're on a ship that you know, isn't seaworthy.
And you're like, I'm going to do everything that's asked him. I'm going to do, I'm going to work my ass off today for 14 hours.
like that, you know, that's a, that's a, that's asked me i'm gonna do i'm gonna work my ass off today for 14 hours like that you know that's a that's a that's a feeling that i don't want to i i had the i had that experience of being in the one that was like just didn't land the gray wall on the same movie that also was my like this is the thing i've always waited for which was the assassination of jesse James by the the coward robert ford brad pitt was in it was like a studio movie with brad pitt i was the lead it was one of the most beautiful scripts i've ever read with a great director and it was and then it it came out and nobody liked it and it was like uh just felt like the biggest disappointment for a minute and i thought i love I love this movie. What do I care? You have to divorce yourself from those responses.
And then 10 years later, it was like, you know, people really loved that movie. Just for whatever reason.
It wasn't in the moment. It was bad timing.
And then people found it. And so those kinds of ups and downs, you just roll, roll with all of them if you want to keep working.
That's the weird thing too, about like what became way more common knowledge in the last 30 years is the box office. And I think because of the explosion of like Marvel and all the IP movies, like everybody started paying attention to the business side of things.
Like that wasn't a thing when we were growing up. Like I, if I'd go see Robert De Niro in a movie, I didn't know how it did at the box office.
I wouldn't even know what that meant. And it's not really an accurate barometer of how good a movie is.
It just means that a bunch of people went to see it. And so to try, it's like people make that thing of, they try to quantify a movie by how much money it makes or, and it is one yardstick by which to take a measurement, but it's really not the only thing.
And it's never a measure of if something's going to last and sustain. And, you know, like Ben's movie, The Town just got relicensed on by Warner Brothers a few years ago for like 35 million bucks, like 15 years later, it's worth that much to one of these streamers because people are still watching the movie.
And like, that's a part of a movie that really works, you know what I mean? It lasts. And I always thought like when they do the Academy Awards, the real best way to do it, if you take all the money and and the marketing all that stuff out is to do the awards

like 20 years after the movies come out yeah so this you'd be voting on the movies that were out

in 2004 and every and then you it would be so easy to go like well what made it like yeah there's no

no spin there's no it's like i still watch that movie i still love that movie like that was the

best movie of 2004 it would be i think probably a more accurate gauge of of of whether a movie

you're watch that movie i still love that movie like that was the best movie of 2004 it would be i think probably a more accurate gauge of of of whether a movie really works you could revote yeah yeah maybe we start that guys maybe instead that's the new we'll do a revoke stock exchange we do a revote i like that are there any sports stories that you guys think you wish would be made into movies? Oh. The...
Was it 1995 South African rugby

game? Are there any sports stories that you guys think you wish would be made into movies? Oh. The 1995 South African rugby team that nobody thought could win the World Cup.
And it was like a story of races coming together too, and like post-apartheid South Africa. I think that's such a great story.
I don't think that's going to work. What about us? No, if somebody did it right, it would be my favorite movie ever.
But we need somebody to step up and do that. I'd like to see a movie on the time Joe shit his pants during a game.
Just throw that out there. People would be like, oh, we're doing a Joe Paterno movie.
They'd be like, ooh, that's heavy. It's like, no, no, no.
It's just the time he shit his pants against Ohio State. That's the whole movie.
The Brothers movie?

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Or do a movie about how frequently Joe Mazzullo watches the town.

That's where the $35 million came from, by the way.

It's just Joe Mazzullo watches it every single day.

Yeah, he does.

We had him on.

He said that.

All right.

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www.nobullproject.com slash barstool for 30 off your entire order that's www.nobullproject.com backslash barstool for 30% off and i've heard you say it uh and talk about it but casey i don't know if i've ever seen you talk about it what do you think about your brother's back tattoo looks like it hurts classy right it's classy by the way we both had a tattoo on our back that we got when we were really really young um that was way better it was simple elegant meaningful yeah the other thing but i like the guy the tattoo artist who does that is very very talented a really nice sweet guy i think he just got talked into doing something that you know yeah what if we just made the entire back a tattoo and he's like yeah i guess was he sedated for that like dak prescott was he did they knock him out for the tattoo yeah they probably did he's never gonna live that down yeah yeah well thank you guys we really appreciate it i didn't even bring up the time my wife saw you matt in dumbo that's my whole matt damon story she just saw you at dinner so that's it yeah that's the whole thing i got we used to live in dumbo so she's like oh i saw matt damon that's the whole story though there's nothing special that's the story she didn't we didn't talk no no she just no she just texted me she's like i just walked past matt damon wow pretty good story I'm going be a better story yeah it'll be a better story if we actually say something to each other she just saw you just just text me i saw matt damon's like oh okay cool i said a little bit real quick what is a rat at the end of the departed symbolize we've we've talked about this for years uh i mean it's probably if marty hasn't come out and said it i mean the whole movie's about rats and but you know it's a rat it's probably right yeah i mean i mean uh the writer had in the script in the in the original script i lived in an old brownstone in like back bay and that was the idea of me of me uh kind of climbing the, you know, the social ladder.

And now I find myself in this old brownstone.

But there's still a rat that you that rat comes across.

And it's it's his past.

It's the thing, you know, it's it's it's meant to symbolize all that stuff.

But when Marty wanted to wanted to see the statehouse, you know, to you know, and he's looking out at the gold, which meant that I was in kind of a more modern building. And so people kind of some people bristled at the rat they're like what's a rat doing in that building it looks a little incongruous symbolic and so yeah it's a rat yeah yeah well thank you guys so much we really appreciate it was great to have you guys on and uh everyone go watch the instigators it's an awesome movie thanks guys love your show all right thanks guys before we get to fire fest of the week as we progress through the season every fan knows that big wins are hard to come by and tough losses are even harder to accept but you know what isn't hard to accept discover believe it or not discover is accepted at 99 of places that take credit cards nationwide.
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Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got Fyre Fest of the week.
Hank, you're back from vacation. I am.

You're Fyre Fest?

That's the problem with vacations.

There's not any bad things to talk about.

Yeah.

You need a vacation from your vacation.

So you got back today at 2.

You landed at 2.

Landed at 2.

I sat in traffic.

When I landed, I had to sit in traffic for two hours.

Thursday's out. And then tomorrow, you'll be in the office? Yeah, in the afternoon.
Oh, really? Why? What are you doing in the morning? Well, we have the week off. And then Big Cat's been saying, let's find a day to go to Beverly.
Find a day to go play golf. And since technically this is a week off, we are here right now.
We're going to be here all night. I've been here all day uh we're going on a work trip saturday no big deal uh we're golfing you and i are golfing yeah hank's holding me hostage i'm golfing tomorrow in the morning excited have fun those greens are fast i'm not i'm gonna play about nine holes what is that is that a slap in the member's face i think so really i don't know a little bit i told you i was gonna all you're like oh let's set it up let's set it up this is a week off you're like i gotta go do the yak it's like okay all right maybe i'll be late to the yak maybe i'll play 12 holes whatever you want no i'm not an 18 hole no i know i'm not an 18 i'm just excited to you know play some golf with my friends yeah so what's your fire fest i sat in traffic two hours of traffic oh my god um are you okay yeah yeah i mean that's that's it i had a great week are you gonna cry i love vacation yeah it was good they feel refreshed feel refreshed sorry that happened to you yeah i traffic is i wouldn't wish that i mean i lost i also lost a mount rushmore to a fucking someone picking celery for a snack yeah so.
Celery and peanut butter. And you know that.
Yeah, you're in trouble. Well, I'm with Hank because we've got a meatball merchant named Max, and he's just stacking wins because he keeps picking the fattiest foods.
Well, and we're done with food drafts for the rest of the summer, so we'll see how Max can hold up without having to just go meatballs on every draft. It has been a stunning...
Like Max said, on fire in the Mount Rushmore season. Yeah, I mean, I did spend a lot of time reflecting and trying to revisit some game plan and strategy things because the snack draft, that wasn't great for me.
I left that draft being a draft and then celery dead last celery lost his celery yeah that yeah whooped you that really is has put my brain in a pretzel yeah okay uh pft your fire fest uh i've had a pretty good week it's been a nice little vacation here uh but i think the the joint fire fest is that uh the takeies have stirred up a lot of controversy and there are some people who are very upset uh tom fornelli very upset for not being nominated for italian of the year yeah uh he's got a lot to work on with his italianess this year and i hope it i hope he puts forth a better showing but then the big controversy is from the Lib of the Year award. Yes.
And Jerry is really going through it right now because Jerry, he keeps alternating back and forth between like, okay, I appreciate the award and saying like, oh, no, please take it away from me. Everyone, please stop calling me the Lib of the Year.
He texted me and Big Cat this morning asking us if we would rescind the award and take it away from him we reminded him that there is a cash prize that goes along with the award correct so he says that he's okay with with keeping it for now he did a quick 180 on that one but he's really struggling with everyone calling him the lib of the year online so please everyone if we could stop calling jerry lib of the year online and don't remind him that he won the Lib of the Year award no matter what. Here's a good, so yeah, he was quickly backtracked when we told him the cash prize.
He'd have to give that back. And we said that the cash prize is up to, it could be up to $20,000 depending on how many times people call him Lib of the Year.
But I agree with PFT. Please stop calling him Lib year online um instead buy uh a jerry live of the year shirt that's now in the store so you can do it in real life which would be better yep yep and yeah just no matter what stop calling him that all the time like stop saying that to him every single minute that you're online he said that he's going to delete twitter but that's also because there was a picture of him eating a corn dog getting a corn dog shoved down his throat so he's having a tough time he's having a tough go of it he also has a picture going floating around with a uh hillary clinton trading card on his forehead so it's been a tough week but he did win the lib of the year so congrats to him yeah yeah i mean he should be i guess be proud of whatever award that you get he's more of a participation trophy kind of guy, though, I guess.
So he wants everyone to have Lib of the Year. Yeah.
There's actually in the new Twitter, there's the Explore, and one of the top ones I have right now is Lib of the Year Award Controversy. And it's got the AI summary.
It says, Jersey Jerry, a prominent figure, was awarded Lib of the Year title by the popular podcast Pardon My Take. The announcement made by Nick Adams led to a flurry of reactions on social media while many congratulated Jerry he expressed discomfort with the overwhelming attention and requested a reduction in the frequency of mentions the situation sparked a mix of support humor and criticism from various users highlighting the complexities of public recognition in the digital era.

Perfect.

I love it.

It's perfect.

Also, how come nobody told me I look like I'm in hell right now?

Well, you just changed your lighting, so how could we tell you that?

It looks like you were on a play stage before.

Yeah, you changed your lighting.

Oh, I didn't change anything.

Well, something changed. You look different in the developing room.

I'm at Scully's right now, and I think they're getting ready for sound check right now.

Here we go.

That's better.

Now I'm in heaven.

Yeah.

Heaven, hell.

It did change.

You were looking not like that, and then something changed with the lighting.

All right.

My Fire Fest, I got an easy one.

My son pissed on me.

That was all.

So that was fun.

He pissed on me. We were playing that was fun he pissed intentionally we were playing which one we were playing swords and he pissed across the toilet all over my leg so but that's the game that listen when you get in the in between the lines and you're playing swords with your son you got to expect that to happen some from time to time sword fight i literally i started the sword fight and then all of a sudden I was like, why is my whole entire leg feel wet?

And I looked down and he was just peeing all over me.

So I think that means he won the sword fight easily, easily.

Total alpha move.

Total alpha move.

But yeah, you got to be able, you got to play swords with your kid.

Come on.

It's fun.

It's just like, you know, because usually I do win, but this one, he's changed the game.

And credit to me, I didn't pee on him. I was going to say, I feel like you were thinking about revenge.
Thought crossed my mind. Thought crossed my mind, but I figured, you know what? Let's play this the right way, chalk it up to a loss, move on, play another game.
All right, Huey, you want to finish this off? Yeah, my FireFest is doing laundry. Oh.
Specifically mine. So I have, so the apartment I'm in right now, the type of, I don't have a washer dryer in my place.
It's four stories down in a different place. So I have to share that laundry room with three other units.
How many machines? It's just one washer, one dryer. Oh, yeah.
Stuff. Yeah.
And it's in a different hallway. It's in a...
So it's like four stories down in different stairs. Is there an elevator? No.
No. But it's a different set of staircases.
It's like in the back. So it's like darker.
And like there's no windows out there. It's just one light at the bottom, one light at the top.
Sounds like a basement. Yeah.
Yeah. It's essentially what I'm going into.
And there's spiders all the way up and down the wall. Okay.
It's just, I'm afraid to go down there. So you have no clean laundry.
So I'm running low on clean laundry now because it's been two weeks. It's running low out of everything.
So I bought new clothes, bought just essential stuff, found some DraftKings shirts in the other room in the gambling cave. So that's going to help.
Hugh, you can go to my office. Pick whatever you want.
All right. I mean, you shouldn't say that out loud.
Nope, I just did. All right.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we got new stuff.
I had new stuff coming anyway, so it wasn't the end of the world. But I think I have a new place set on the back end of Grit Week.'re moving yeah i got a washer and dryer there and it's my own good so i got a whole plan of doing big laundry for one weekend it's gonna be awesome excited i was for that one that's like your strategy for no clean laundry seems to just be like only buy new clothes yeah yeah that's a total dude's rock moment like i there were spiders in the hallway so i just got new clothes and when he says he bought new clothes i feel like i bought socks okay but a lot of the clothes came from the gambling cave yeah came from this office a lot of stuff was getting delivered here yeah yeah i did have some amazon stuff i got some shampoo i mean we're rocking and rolling now yeah i mean he's just going to be a walking billboard for us.
I love it. I love it.
Okay. Good show, boys.
Grit Week starts Sunday night. We're traveling.
We'll be visiting a bunch of different camps. We're very excited.
We also will have a meet and greet that we'll let everyone know about when we get it set. So good show.
Grit week. Excited to get back all of us together.
Let's do numbers. 20.
8. 42.
12. You want to do 56? I want to do 56.
Yeah. 56.
Well, no. Now, what if it's 8? 3.
It's not going to be 8.

It's going to be 56.

I promise.

My son on Pug.

99.

21.

43.

43.

Love you guys. man I'm talking away.
I don't know what to say. I'm saying anyway.
Today's in my day. I find you shining away.
I'm coming for your love. Okay.
So, hey. Come on.
Needless to say. I thought I said it.
It's about me. It's over a little way.
It's over a little. It's okay.
Say it to me. Life's better to be safe.
It's over a little. Hey! Thank you.
I'll be here to come To your child Things that we say Is it like home Just find out where the reason we You're all the friends I've got to remember You shine away You are becoming a little white light Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take me.

Take on me.