Matt Damon And Casey Affleck, Mt Rushmore Of Dumb Things We Used To Think + Football Is Back

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have an awesome interview with Matt Damon and Casey Aflak. Their new movie is coming out next week on Apple TV, The Instigators.

Speaker 1 It is awesome and great interview talking to both those guys. We also do, I would say, my favorite Mount Rushmore that we've done all season, it is the Mount Rushmore of Dumb Things You Used to Think.

Speaker 1 So we have some really dumb things we used to think, and it was very open-ended and very fun.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk a little football, being back, Olympics, and of course, we got Fire Fest of the week, and it's all brought to you by our friends at Dream.

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Today is Friday, August 2nd, and football is all the way back, PFT,

Speaker 6 Hall of Fame game. We're back, baby.

Speaker 6 It's so great. It's so great to see football on TV.
So great to see the score bug. So great to hear the music.

Speaker 6 So great to bet the over, which I'm probably going to lose, but I'm going to take it anyways because it's unpatriotic to take the under on the Hall of Fame game. I'm excited.
I'm super excited.

Speaker 6 We made it, guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The minute the calendar turns to August, it's just like, okay, this is now a football month. We are now in football months.
Like, we've made it.

Speaker 1 I don't want to wish away the summer, but the summer, bye-bye. Hank, back to work.
It's football season. The game is about to kick off.
So I will, oh, there's a face. So I will wait.

Speaker 7 We got a couple more weeks.

Speaker 1 We don't have a couple more weeks.

Speaker 1 We have grit week. We have grit week and then football.

Speaker 1 PFT, I will let you know the moment that I think the Bears are all the way back. So

Speaker 6 while we're recording, I know that they're back, Big. In fact, I'm surprised that we haven't talked about this yet, but they're back because they have an athlete at the Olympics.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 6 They do. Watching Simone Biles.
I don't see any Packers players in attendance watching Simone Biles. No.

Speaker 1 Jonathan Owens just hanging out,

Speaker 1 watching Simone Biles.

Speaker 1 Here for life. You're right.
Oh, Caleb Williams is actually wearing a full jersey. I like that.
Just seeing that. But yeah, Tyson Baget's going to play Hollywood.
He's like 18.

Speaker 1 Well, he had to do 18.

Speaker 1 It's Keenan Allen. What are you going to do? Wait, but that wasn't Kyle Orton.
That wasn't his number in college, right? No, that was not his number because Keenan Allen,

Speaker 1 he did the right thing. There was a report today that Caleb Williams told people to clean up his lockers, and Amani Toomer, who cares, was like,

Speaker 1 that's not his job.

Speaker 1 I thought it was being a leader.

Speaker 1 We're already in tear down Caleb Williams territory. That's fine.
I'm going to enjoy the Hall of Fame game. I'm going to enjoy Tyson Bajant.

Speaker 1 There's some all-time Bears going into the Hall of Fame this weekend. It's going to be great.
So

Speaker 1 the Hall of Fame game means absolutely nothing. They've completely bastardized it where you don't even get the first stringers playing for a second, but I'm not going to let anyone yuck my yum today.

Speaker 6 The Hall of Fame game, it is technically football. That should be the slogan of it.
And we've made it, listen, we did a great job pretending to get excited about the Olympics this summer.

Speaker 6 We got into the Copa Euros, which was an incredible just waste of time for us to fast forward through the months of June and July.

Speaker 6 But the whole reason that those sports exist is so that we can get back to the Hall of Fame game, and we're there now. And I'm so thankful.
I'm curious to see. I'm not in front of a TV right now.

Speaker 6 I'm in Columbus, Ohio. Shout out, shout out Scully's.
Scully's Music Diner, Pup Punks, playing tonight, Friday. Should be a great time.
But I don't have a TV in front of me.

Speaker 6 Are any of the players choosing to wear the Guardian caps, the giant things on their helmet that Roderick Dell said?

Speaker 1 We don't know yet. We don't know yet because they're about to take the field.
But yeah, they're allowed to wear the Guardian cap during the regular season, too. I likened it to John Olrod.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a John Olrod situation where he wore the batting helmet playing first base.

Speaker 1 Looks like right now, I feel like no one's going to wear the Guardian cap, right?

Speaker 6 That's just not. I don't think so.
I think Roger Goodell was like, tell you what, in the effort of player safety, I will allow you to wear a giant helmet that makes you look like a clown. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And no one's going to do it. And then Roger Goodell could be like, oh, I gave them the option of wearing the big red clown nose on their face, but they chose not to do it.

Speaker 6 I guess they don't care about player safety. Let's do 19 games.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The only time I could see someone wearing a Guardian cap is is like getting concussed in the game, somehow passing the test, and the doctor's being like, you know what, just put this thing on.

Speaker 1 You'll be fine. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Did you know that, Hank? The Guardian cap? They can wear it.
They can wear it now.

Speaker 1 All right. Other NFL news before we talk about the Olympics.
We did a bad job on Monday. We had the takesies on Wednesday.
Incredible takeies. Shout out to all the winners.

Speaker 1 It was a lot of fun to tape. to do a little year in review.

Speaker 1 We forgot to mention that Jordan Love got paid and he made a lot of money. And Tua got paid.
He made a lot of money. And now it feels like we're good with quarterbacks for a little bit.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that whole class, they got paid.

Speaker 6 That's that's the class you want to be in if you're a quarterback in the NFL. Uh, next up is the Brock Purdy discourse, and we're still on Dak.
We're still on Dak watch.

Speaker 6 So we don't know what's going to happen with that. But yeah, Tua got paid.
McDaniels is, he apparently went to bat for him saying, hey, we need to pay our quarterback. Great job, Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 6 And And

Speaker 1 yeah, I don't, it's very weird.

Speaker 6 I know that you have to pay Jordan Love, but he's got like eight games under his belt that he played well in, and now he's one of the highest paid players in the league.

Speaker 6 So I guess we'll see how it shakes out. No, it was a look for you.

Speaker 1 He deserves every dollar that he got.

Speaker 1 Some may say, you know, paying a 32-year-old that much money

Speaker 1 who's only played eight games is kind of crazy, but I'm not going to judge. They got their guy,

Speaker 1 and he's got at least four or five more years left before he's in his late 30s. What were you just talking talking about, Hank? What were you just talking about?

Speaker 7 Mr. McMichael looked like a vibe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mr. McMichael.
So, yeah, Steve McMichael, obviously, he's got ALS, so he's not there in person, but he's in the Hall of Fame, deserves it, Mongo.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 they're bringing out the Hall of Famers right now, PFT. So that's what we're watching on our TV.
Patrick Willis is getting introduced.

Speaker 1 Everyone's clapping it up. Caleb Williams is in practice.
He was in a jersey and pads for practice reps, I believe, because now he's in a t-shirt. Kind of like that.
Okay, Mrs.

Speaker 1 McMichael, she got the orange

Speaker 1 dress on. She looks good.

Speaker 6 In Hall of Fame news, I'm a little bit upset at the Hall of Fame and their sculptor, the guy that does the busts, because they didn't make Peyton Manning's forehead nearly big enough. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I feel like Peyton told them, hey, lower the hairline a little bit. Take it easy on my forehead.
It's not realistic. So

Speaker 6 I've got a little bit of a problem with that.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 All right. Only other football news is we're starting with injuries, which suck.

Speaker 1 Training camp injuries have started to happen. Justin Herbert is out till at least week one,

Speaker 1 and DeAndre Hopkins is out for four to six weeks. So I fucking hate sharing training camp injuries.
They make me so mad.

Speaker 1 There's nothing worse than getting that shifter alert when you're sitting minding your own business in the middle of August, and you're like, God damn it, we didn't even get to the season.

Speaker 6 And Deontay Foreman got airlifted on a helicopter to Roanoke for a head injury, but I think he's okay.

Speaker 6 That happened during kickoff drills. They were doing a kickoff drill at practice, and I guess he took a shot to the head.

Speaker 6 But I want to know if you gave Jim Harbaugh truth serum, what he thinks about his quarterback being out for weeks with a foot injury.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good question. I think.

Speaker 1 I feel like Jim Harbaugh is playing. Well, no, he's a football guy through and through.

Speaker 1 I would say maybe the good news is that you'll see less highlights of Quentin Johnson dropping balls because that was all of Twitter for an entire day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he'll be okay. Justin Herbert will be fine.
They're rebuilding something

Speaker 1 in, I was about to say San Diego, L.A. Jim Harbaugh, he's going to win.
That's all he does. He wins everywhere he goes.

Speaker 6 He's going to figure out a way to win, but I can imagine him seeing his quarterback with a foot injury and being like, Your foot's a long way from your heart, son. You just cut it off.

Speaker 6 You probably have him do the J.J. McCarthy stuff.
Just like take your shoes off and ground yourself every morning. It sounds like you're depressed.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So, other things: Olympics.
We have the Olympics going on. Team USA.
Steve Kerr in an all-time. Whoops.

Speaker 1 I feel bad. And Jason Tatum's probably going to quit the team.
Started Jason Tatum against South Sudan.

Speaker 6 Huge game for Jason. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think that was an overcompensation a little bit, Hank?

Speaker 7 No, it's probably just the matchups. Oh, the matchups.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, the matchups.
We also had Steve Kerr. Shout out Steve Kerr because I'm now convinced he's just doing it for us.
Jason Tatum played zero minutes in the first game.

Speaker 1 Joe Embiid played zero minutes in the second game. Thank you, Steve Kerr.
You're just giving us stuff to talk about in the middle of August.

Speaker 1 We do have Max, who

Speaker 1 the reports were that he got arrested in Paris. He did not get arrested in Paris.
Yeah, there was a Photoshop going around that he got arrested for eating too many

Speaker 1 crepes.

Speaker 1 Just detained? Yeah, he was detained for eating too many crepes. They said they've never seen a man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they've never seen a man eat so many crepes, so they had to lock him up. Did not get arrested, but he he did give us a video.

Speaker 1 He will be back with us in flesh for the start of Grit Week, which starts on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joe,

Speaker 1 big head picture. I'm going to get it right now.
Hold on.

Speaker 6 Well, the first big head Joe Buck picture of the season.

Speaker 6 I have not seen this video from Max yet, but I'm interested to see what he says because Hank's spin zone and Max's spin zone for the first game were entirely different on what they have to be right now.

Speaker 6 You guys just flip-flop places. So, Hank, you were saying that at least Jason Tatum got minutes, whereas Loser and Bi couldn't even get in at all.

Speaker 6 And then Max said, yeah, well, I'd rather he'd be rested than get in and look bad. So how are you guys going to flip-flop your excuses?

Speaker 7 Let's see what Max has to say.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, let's see what Max has to say.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're applying to our partners.

Speaker 9 All right. Let's talk Team USA.
Let's talk Joelle Embiid.

Speaker 9 I'm sure all the people that are listening to this right now have just heard Big Cat and PFT and Hank just spew a bunch of bullshit, a bunch of propaganda, anti-Joelle Embiid propaganda that wants the listener to think that Joelle Embiid didn't play today or yesterday or whatever day this would be

Speaker 9 because he's not a good player. That's not the case.
It's Team USA. They got the best players in the world.
They have the ability to give guys rest. as far as matchups go.

Speaker 9 South Sudan, not the best matchup for Joelle Embiid. They're a small team.
They like to go run and gun. Joelle Embiid is a bigger player.
He's not as fast as some of the other guys.

Speaker 9 So they're giving him an off day. He's going to be in the starting lineup against Puerto Rico.
He's still the top three player on this team. Steve Curtis said that himself.

Speaker 9 Sometimes there's matchup things, and guys who don't know ball are going to try and criticize Joellen Bi for being a different matchup for this South Sudan team. But

Speaker 9 that's all part of the game plan. Some people don't know game plan, and I know that the hosts of this show are going to be slandering a man for no reason just because they don't know ball.

Speaker 9 Sometimes about game plan, he's going to drop 30 against Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 Oh, memes, so back us up, memes.

Speaker 1 For the last two episodes, we've had Max send you videos without us seeing it so we would see it for the first time at the same time as AWLs. Is that a fact? That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Okay, so methinks the lady doth protest too much because Max just went in an entire rant about us slandering Joel M. Beaten.
We didn't say one bad thing. Nope.
We didn't even address.

Speaker 1 We basically just said, oh yeah, he didn't play any minutes.

Speaker 1 And then he just went into this whole thing about they are going to say he's a bad player and that he's slow and he's fat and it's all matchups. We didn't say anything, PFT.

Speaker 6 I didn't even think about Joel Embiid being fat, but Max makes a pretty good point that we should probably talk about that.

Speaker 1 Out of shape.

Speaker 7 I actually agree with him for once. Like the matchup thing is a valid point.
My only takeaway from that was just Joel Embiid is slow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Joel Embiid is slow, and speed is actually important when you're playing sports.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and listen. South Sudan players are faster than NBA players.
Yes. Was the takeaway there.

Speaker 6 I think Steve Curtis, just being a good coach, he knows that Joel Embiid can't match up against South Sudan well. Yeah.
And so they're a dynamic group of playmakers over there.

Speaker 6 So, you know, maybe we'll get him back in against Puerto Rico. I don't know how those matchups look, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll have to dive into the matchups. Hopefully, they have a big fat guy that Joel Embiid can play against.

Speaker 6 I'm going to wait for AI Al Michaels to tell me what to think. I've been watching his recaps in the morning.
It is very creepy.

Speaker 1 It's so weird. It's so weird.
We also had the women's, our Olympic, or sorry, our gymnastics team dominated. Again, Simone Biles is the GOAT.
She's incredible. I think KD even said that

Speaker 1 he thinks that Simone Biles could take an alley oop. Like, she could dunk on a 10-foot rim.

Speaker 1 But, yeah.

Speaker 1 We just dominate that. And I think

Speaker 1 we're back in a good spot in the medal count.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we're good. We're dominating the silvers.
We are the absolute kings of silver right now. Yeah.
So I don't know if we're dominating the golds, but yeah, the gymnastics team, awesome.

Speaker 6 The men's gymnastics, they got a bronze, and they were really happy about that. So I'm happy for the guy that looks like Robbie Fox.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good for him. Got engaged and won a bronze.
Yeah, no, China still is leading us in gold.

Speaker 1 We got to get... That also, we haven't gotten to the track and field yet.
I feel like every day I wake up, China is dominating Air Pistols. And what else have they been dominating? I don't even know.

Speaker 8 I think it's disgusting that the United States can't win its shooting.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's our sport.

Speaker 1 It should be something we excel at. Did you also see

Speaker 1 first new kickoff going right now, PFT? It's crazy. What have they done to our game? Sam Schwartzeen has ruined football for all of us.
I actually think this will be a good rule.

Speaker 1 Once we get used to it, there's probably going to be more... kickoffs returned and it's going to be more exciting.
So I'm excited for it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 When the XFL did it, they used to have the flags that the refs refs would raise. Right.
And I don't like introducing like a new prop for the refs to be using, but they got rid of those.

Speaker 6 So I think the kickoff is going to be good just so that we can watch dumb coaches screw it up.

Speaker 1 And the Bears just covered the kickoff perfectly. So 1-0 on kickoffs for the Bears.
We looked awesome. Got them down at the 26, which I think if you kick it out of the landing zone, where does it go?

Speaker 1 Goes somewhere. 35?

Speaker 1 We should probably rush up on this.

Speaker 6 It's at 30?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think it's the 30. I think they changed it to 30.
But yeah, when we do our whose team is this guy on now update, we should also do a rules update.

Speaker 1 Let's just remind everyone, it's still preseason for us. So I use the preseason to get myself warmed up for the season.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to let myself be belittled by any new rules or any new people. The preseason is there for a reason.
We all need our reps. We're getting some right now.
Feels good.

Speaker 1 It feels great.

Speaker 1 So Katie Ludecki won a bunch.

Speaker 1 Our gymnastics team won everything.

Speaker 1 And then did you guys see the craziest? There was, I think it was the ping-pong final. It was older brother versus younger brother, which was nuts.

Speaker 6 That's wild. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 They were in the same country. Like, there's multiple participants.
All right, I got to fact-check this. Talk, talk amongst yourself.
Why fact-check this?

Speaker 7 So you're saying that there's a bracket, basically, and you get multiple entries.

Speaker 7 Or is this like

Speaker 7 30 for 30?

Speaker 7 Okay. The two basketball players.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 6 the two Escobars.

Speaker 7 No, no, no.

Speaker 7 Eastern European.

Speaker 1 Alexis and Felix Lebrun, France's

Speaker 1 Olympic brothers. So they played.
It might not have been for the gold medal match, but they played, and I saw the younger brother lost. Brutal.
He was crying as the older brother was celebrating.

Speaker 1 That's one where you've got to root for the younger brother, right?

Speaker 6 It's like the Horribal Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The older brother stood up on the table and like cheered and was going nuts, and the younger brother was just crying into his shirt. But I thought that was pretty cool.
The brothers are playing.

Speaker 1 They should have played in their mom's basement.

Speaker 1 That was my only critique.

Speaker 6 If the younger brother wins, then that is devastating for the older brother.

Speaker 6 At least this way, it's the older brother keeps up because I'm sure that when they were kids, the older brother would win every single time they played.

Speaker 1 Right. Although, is ping pong one of those sports that like age matters? Probably not, right?

Speaker 6 I don't think so. Table tennis.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 there's a lot of running. Table tennis.

Speaker 1 That's what we got to call it. Table tennis.
I'm not calling it table tennis.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Any other Olympic

Speaker 1 story? Scotty Scheffler had a weird quote where he's just like, we're all, no one's going to remember us anyway when they were asking about his Olympic legacy.

Speaker 1 He just said that. He said, no one's going to remember us anyway.

Speaker 7 It's kind of true when it comes to golf in the Olympics. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Do we name one golf Olympic moment ever?

Speaker 1 Xander wearing white sneakers.

Speaker 1 There's a moment.

Speaker 6 Yeah, electric. Who could forget?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Do we want to talk about boxers and what gender they were assigned at birth?

Speaker 1 I don't really care to, but we can if you want to.

Speaker 6 I just want to make you uncomfortable. This is why.
This is why.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you want to talk about it. Go off.
No,

Speaker 6 I just knew that you didn't.

Speaker 6 Well, do you? This is why the original. Well, do you? You should.
Why the original. I'm trying to.
That's why the original. I got taped.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to. This is one of those situations.
This is where I feel like I shouldn't say it publicly because I don't know know anything.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it needs to be. No, I'm just saying this is why the original Olympics had them, everyone competing completely nude back in ancient Greece.

Speaker 6 That's when sports were sports. But what's your take?

Speaker 6 My take is that I don't know shit about what's going on right now. So I'm just going to sit back and not pretend to care about women's boxing at the Olympics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 I asked for someone to explain to me like a five-year-old, and I had like 400 replies in the first two minutes, and every single reply was different facts. I was like, well, this isn't going to work.

Speaker 1 I'm out. I'm out on this

Speaker 1 course.

Speaker 6 For my limited reading, it comes down to a big beef between the IOC and then the IBF, which is a boxing governing body that has actual beef with the people on the IOC.

Speaker 6 It's like a personal dispute as to who ruled her to be

Speaker 6 having like too many, either it was chromosomes or testosterone to compete. That was the IBF that said that.
But they won't say what the test was. Now the IOC says they're full of shit.

Speaker 6 It's just we're we stumbled onto a turf war between two sports governing bodies.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I like to keep sports fun. And when I saw this pop up, I was like, well, this doesn't seem fun at all.
And I'm out.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch the Olympics to watch sports that I never watch and kind of care about the U.S. winning.
And if they don't win, I will say the Olympics are dumb. That's how I consume the Olympics.

Speaker 1 Nothing?

Speaker 6 I want to hear Hank's take.

Speaker 1 Oh, go ahead, Hank.

Speaker 7 Do you actually want to hear my take? That I.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 7 No, I know. I agree with the sports fund.
This is obviously a sensitive subject for a lot of people.

Speaker 7 From my limited reading,

Speaker 7 she was born a female and identifies a female, just because she has some extra testosterone doesn't mean she shouldn't be fighting other females. And she's like nine and six or whatever.

Speaker 7 Her professional records are not even that good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was actually.

Speaker 7 When the stories happen in sports, I think it's like swimming or track and field with people that were born male and transitioned, which that's way different.

Speaker 7 And that's when this story came across. It read like that, where it was like someone that was a man transitioned and now fighting in women's boxing.
But it's like, that's not really the case.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Which I think we can all agree that if there's a man that is competing, punching women in the face, that's bad. That's very bad.

Speaker 6 And also, Algeria doesn't seem like the most friendly country towards gender reassignment surgery. So it's probably a case where she was born as a female, always identified as a female.

Speaker 6 And then there was a ruling by the IBF that she had something extra that we don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 The best thing that came out of this, though, was

Speaker 1 this Twitter exchange that I'll read to you guys. This woman, Amy Broadhurst, wrote, have a lot of people texting me over Iman Khiliff.

Speaker 1 Personally, I don't think she has done anything to cheat. I think it's the way she was born and that's out of her control.
The fact that she has been

Speaker 1 beaten by nine females before says it all. Then someone named Ben Hyde replied, What would your reaction have been if you were supposed to fight Kealef?

Speaker 1 Amy, I have great respect for your boxing legacy, but you've missed the mark here.

Speaker 1 Greed, the way you're born, is out of your control, but it's a clear advantage and shouldn't be allowed.

Speaker 1 And then someone replied, Amy Broadhurst did fight Iman Kealiff in the 2022 World Championship Final. She won.
So, like, the people just spouting off left and right about shit they don't know about.

Speaker 1 This guy tried to correct someone who actually fought this woman and then was like,

Speaker 1 What are we doing here? So, yeah, the whole thing is, uh, yeah, it's it's it's been quite quite the day on online watching the discourse fly back and forth.

Speaker 6 It's disgrace the ancient Greeks who embraced very strict traditional gender and sexuality rules. Correct, as we all know, correct.

Speaker 1 Um, oh, I had one last Scotty Scheffer thing for you guys. Uh,

Speaker 1 he was asked in an interview at the Olympics: uh, do you ever go and just look at all your trophies?

Speaker 1 Would it give you a big head? And he responded, yeah, probably would. I don't think I've ever done that.
I think one time this year, I took like a trophy.

Speaker 1 I took my green jacket and the plaid jacket, and I think I held like the player's trophy in one hand, and I had another trophy in the other hand and walked in the living room and said, Sup, Mayor, to his wife.

Speaker 1 That's the extent of Scotty Scheffler getting a big head. Just wearing all the things he's won and just saying, what's up to his wife?

Speaker 1 Probably trying to fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and probably trying to fuck. Which, like, good for you, dude.

Speaker 1 You put on the green jacket and be like, what's up? You feeling it?

Speaker 6 Wear the green jacket and only the green jacket.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else? Mike Trout's out for the year.
Good job, PFT. I'm drafting.
I'm aware.

Speaker 6 Dingers only. Well, that means I get a sub for Mike Trout.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 Because the IR slash pedophilia list. So I will be making my choice, I believe, tomorrow about that.

Speaker 1 Okay. So yeah, the strategy of drafting half your team already injured is you're not in last.

Speaker 6 Which I did unintentionally because Mike Trout had just gotten hurt when I drafted him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's been hurt for a while.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Mike Trout, I forgot about.
I'll be honest.

Speaker 6 But there was another guy that was hurt that I drafted that had just gotten hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think John Carlos. Yeah, maybe.
All right, the Bears just gave up an opening drive. That's not good.
They suck. Season's over.

Speaker 1 Anything else for Olympics? Huey, did you have any Olympic stories? No, basketball is pretty quiet. Our three-on-three team sucks.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 God. They're the worst.
They're 0-3.

Speaker 7 You should get Chase Buttinger in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who's a really good volleyball player? Really good volleyball player.

Speaker 6 We got Jimmer playing?

Speaker 1 Jimmer was hurt today. We lost to Lithuania.
We're 0-3.

Speaker 6 We would have beaten with Jimmer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we also maybe not because we lost the first two games with Jimmer.

Speaker 6 So we just. Yeah, but Jimmer matches up well against Lithuania.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we just suck. Okay, let's get to our Mount Rushmore.
Very fun Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 I actually dubbed it in the ad coming up my favorite Mount Rushmore we've done this season because it was very open-ended. So let's kick to the Mount Rushmore.
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Speaker 1 Okay, last Mount Rushmore before we head out for Grit Week.

Speaker 1 Max, you were up first.

Speaker 1 Yep. And we're doing a very open-ended one.
Should be a fun one.

Speaker 1 Dumb things we used to think.

Speaker 1 So let's not put it on, it doesn't have to be as a kid. It can just be, because like Hank probably has one from like last week.
He didn't know humans were animals. Dumb things you used to think.

Speaker 6 Meatballs.

Speaker 1 Meatballs. Meatballs.
Meatballs are the only food.

Speaker 9 Okay, I was thinking of this more as a kid.

Speaker 1 I have mostly as a kid, but I'm just saying, if you have something that's like, oh, I thought this when I was 20, I don't think we should take it away.

Speaker 1 I have almost all kids' stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Oh, Hank just says, see? Hank's race.
And something just popped into his head. No, I want to hear

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 6 I want to hear the stuff that Hank just recently said. Yeah, we thought it wasn't true.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 you can do your own with the guy.

Speaker 1 Hank, put a star next to that one, and when you say it, let us know that it was the one that literally just popped in your head. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Love that.

Speaker 9 Okay. So I was thinking as a kid, so the first thing that is the easiest one that everyone thought of is that Santa Claus was real.

Speaker 6 Okay. Spoiler, if you're riding in the corner with your childhood.

Speaker 1 Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler.

Speaker 6 I'm sorry that they're crying.

Speaker 7 Do you guys remember what grade you were in when you were?

Speaker 1 Spoiler, Matt. Yes, I remember

Speaker 9 specifically the moment because I was the youngest. Were you eating meatballs?

Speaker 1 I had two older brothers. I had a big plate of meatballs.

Speaker 9 I had two older brothers, and I had

Speaker 9 an uncle that had white hair and kind of looked like Santa Claus. So

Speaker 9 we would look out our window some years and see him go around

Speaker 9 in the backyard to sneak in and put the presents under the tree. So we would always try and catch Santa Claus.

Speaker 9 And then one year I turned to my brother who I shared a a room with, who's like five years older than me. And

Speaker 9 I was like, hey, do you think we're going to see Santa tonight? And he was like, dude, Santa is Uncle Charlie.

Speaker 1 You didn't know that?

Speaker 9 And it was like the worst moment of my entire life.

Speaker 1 Oh, meatballs.

Speaker 6 You're like, who was I throwing snowballs at all those years?

Speaker 9 We were actually throwing meatballs at them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are ice meatballs.

Speaker 1 Max's biography is just

Speaker 1 his life is meatballs. All right, good pick.
I'm so excited for whatever Hank's got in his brain right now. Me too.

Speaker 6 All right, so I'm up.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 6 I will go with that if you dug deep enough, you can reach China. Yep, had it on the other side.
I honestly thought that I could. Every kid.
And

Speaker 6 I was probably...

Speaker 1 Is that wrong?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's very wrong.

Speaker 6 Because you can't reach, like, you would melt before you reach the center of the earth.

Speaker 1 Also, we have not even come close to digging to the center of the earth.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I looked this up a couple months ago. It's actually embarrassing

Speaker 6 how shallow the deepest hole ever dug is.

Speaker 1 It's like seven and a half miles.

Speaker 6 It's ridiculous. We need to, it's Jurassic Park.
Let's Let's do that.

Speaker 6 Let's rebuild Titanic, do Titanic 2, and then let's figure out a fucking way to dig more than just seven miles into the crust of the Earth.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What if it's a fruity center?

Speaker 6 We don't know.

Speaker 1 What if we're a big gusher?

Speaker 6 What if we're filled with cheese?

Speaker 1 Would be cool. Would be cool.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good one.
These are all very good. I had that as well.

Speaker 1 And this one I feel like is very relatable that everyone probably had. I don't know if it's specific to a

Speaker 1 sport, but I thought I was going to the NBA.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was, that was.

Speaker 1 And I, I was, I, I thought that if I just, you know, was in my driveway shooting hoops, someone would come by and be like, damn, that kid. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Sign him up. I was like that with baseball, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That was my career. I was going to be a baseball player.

Speaker 7 Or, yeah, I was like, I'll be a baseball player. If not, I'll just do basketball.

Speaker 1 I had a really depressing conversation with Titus the other day because it dawned on me that

Speaker 1 like all of us sitting in this room, Max, maybe because he played college ball.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, mine was much later.

Speaker 7 Yeah, later.

Speaker 1 Like, my realization I wasn't going to the NBA was like maybe 10 years old. Like, when you look around, you're like, oh, I'm the fifth best player on my team.
And there's how many teams?

Speaker 1 I asked Titus that, and he's like, yeah, actually, I really struggled with that because I thought I was going to the NBA until I was like a senior in high school. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And like, that's, I was like, damn, that actually probably really, really sucks.

Speaker 6 And there's probably a piece of him that going into college was like, well, maybe. Yeah.
Maybe if I work hard enough. Yeah.

Speaker 7 But like me, Mike Conley, Greg Owens. Yeah, we're all going to be in the NBA together.

Speaker 1 He said he was 6-4 when he was in eighth grade and he never grew again. So it's like it kind of fucked him.

Speaker 1 But I, yeah, like normal kids, I think they all have the same thing where, you know, they're eight, nine, ten. They're like, damn, I'm doing it.
I'm going to go to the league.

Speaker 1 And then you have that moment where you're like, no, no, I'm not. That hurts.
Hurts a lot. But I thought that for a while.
As always,

Speaker 1 we all did.

Speaker 7 I will go. This is the recent one.

Speaker 1 This is the recent one? All right.

Speaker 7 Kissing equals sex.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you just found that out.

Speaker 7 That's not the recent one. But that, I thought for a long time.
That's a really good long time.

Speaker 6 That's how you thought babies were made?

Speaker 1 A great one. Yeah.
That's a great one.

Speaker 7 Like, whether you say sexual, oh, they're kissing. That's it.

Speaker 9 I was like, oh, they're naked kissing. That means

Speaker 1 that's it.

Speaker 9 Because you would watch a movie and they would.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 6 Say French kissed. That's a good one.

Speaker 7 And then I will go with, if you fell through a cloud, you'd come out soaking wet.

Speaker 1 That's not true. No.

Speaker 1 Are you sure? I don't. Yeah.
I don't. I don't know.
I feel like that pic shouldn't count.

Speaker 6 Like, what if it's raining?

Speaker 1 I feel like.

Speaker 1 Is that not true?

Speaker 7 Like, I always thought that if you fell through a cloud,

Speaker 7 then all the water would just fall.

Speaker 1 Same.

Speaker 6 Oh, you thought that you would pierce the cloud and then the cloud would be falling.

Speaker 1 Oh, like a water balloon. Okay.
And you're basically falling through the water balloon and

Speaker 1 pop. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think that... I still think that's true.

Speaker 7 No, because if you fly through clouds, the plane doesn't come out wet.

Speaker 6 Are you sure? Yeah. Sometimes, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes. Only if you're underneath.

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 6 if you run through fog, like really dense fog, you get moist, right?

Speaker 7 I was thinking, I was like, my thing was the water moisture.

Speaker 1 I just thought of another one that

Speaker 7 you went skydiving and fell through a cloud, that it would just pop.

Speaker 6 The entire cloud would explode.

Speaker 7 And then water would just fall everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I just literally just triggered that.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, so I'll go with this next pick because

Speaker 1 your thought.

Speaker 7 Can I specify that if you fell through a cloud that it would pop?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 That'd make it make more sense.

Speaker 1 Because I had to double check because

Speaker 1 I guess maybe I still thought, a small part of me thought this was real till right this second.

Speaker 1 But if you're an elevator and it falls and you jump at the end, you survive.

Speaker 6 You're going to be safe, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not.

Speaker 1 That's true. No, sir.
I just looked it up. It's not true.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. I thought that as a kid.
I haven't thought about it for a long time, but I was like, I got to double check because, wait, is it true?

Speaker 6 It's not true. It's not true.
You would die. Yeah.
R.I.P.

Speaker 1 Great grandpa. So that's my pick.

Speaker 7 Well, he was underneath the elevator.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it felt like he shouldn't have been there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You gotta ask.
What was provocation?

Speaker 6 What was he doing? What was he doing at the bottom of that elevator?

Speaker 1 What the fuck was he doing under that elevator?

Speaker 6 That's the one place you don't want to be.

Speaker 1 I definitely thought that. Maybe a little bit of thought that till now.

Speaker 1 Just kind of like I still think you're wrong about the cloud thing.

Speaker 1 But this is good. We're learning.
We're learning today. So that's my next pick.
Okay.

Speaker 6 This is tough. There's a lot of good ones on the board right now.

Speaker 1 I used to be

Speaker 6 very, very dumb. These are very personal.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they're very personal.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 I used to think that when you'd watch a rerun of a show on TV, that it was an all-new taping of the exact same script.

Speaker 1 Ooh, that's good. So I thought.
Very dumb.

Speaker 6 I thought that I'd be watching Save by the Bell and then my friend. It's like live music.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 They're doing the same song, but they're just taping it again for us and broadcasting live. Very dumb.
Yeah, very dumb.

Speaker 1 Very dumb. Very dumb.

Speaker 7 September 1997 Fresh Prince is the best one.

Speaker 1 Very dumb, but very good.

Speaker 6 What's your favorite version of the September 1997 Fresh Prince?

Speaker 1 Okay. Max?

Speaker 9 If you eat a watermelon seed, it'll grow in your stomach. Yeah.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That one, again,

Speaker 1 that's definitely in the list of, I don't know. I'm not 100% sure on that one.
Yep.

Speaker 9 And I...

Speaker 9 I like remember this as a kid one time searching for this, that there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah so you're looking for it you ask your parents to drive towards the end of the rainbow yeah yeah that's good that's good okay pft back to you

Speaker 6 i'm gonna say um i used to think that they sold marijuana and cocaine at drugstores

Speaker 6 So we'd be driving past a drugstore.

Speaker 1 You're never a drug guy.

Speaker 6 No, we'd be driving past a store, and I'd be like, Dad, why do they sell drugs at that store? Shouldn't they be arrested? And he'd be like, no, it's a different kind of drugstore. Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's legal drugs. Yeah.
Crate them. It's the drugs that, yeah, that will be illegal soon.
That's what they sell there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.
I have one that's a little bit older than just kid. It's more teenage.
But

Speaker 1 again, I think it's relatable. I think everyone had this moment in their life.

Speaker 1 I used to think that my parents had no idea when I was higher drunk. And they always knew.
Always fucking knew. Like, you remember just coming home and being like, I played that off perfectly? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No chances you play it off perfectly. Because like being older and being sober around drunk people, you always know when someone's drunk.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I thought that my mom had no idea that I threw up three times in my room one night. And she came in the next day and she was talking about how it smelled like cologne.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I was like, yep, she bought it.

Speaker 6 She thinks it's the cologne.

Speaker 1 Reeking like weed and being like,

Speaker 1 damn, I'm suave. They had no idea.

Speaker 1 Get some old spice on this thing. Good.
Hank, I'm sure you had it. Or did you, do you still think your parents didn't know? Oh, no, they knew.

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, credit, like, I don't know how you, how it was. Like, my parents were at least, as long as I was home safe, they weren't going to like be like, you're drunk.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So in my head, I was like, I'm good. You know?

Speaker 7 I just got in trouble so many times that it got to a point where as long as I wasn't super fucked up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, I got away. Yeah, I'm not talking about obviously.
There's been super fucked up times.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about like that middle zone where it's like you're fucked up and you think that you're pulling it off. Yeah.
You're never.

Speaker 6 What you learn is that your parents just don't want to deal with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just want you to get home safely.

Speaker 6 Yeah. That's okay.
You're home. I don't want to make a thing.

Speaker 9 It was as long as I never got caught in the act. I got caught like throwing up a couple times.
That was always a big problem. I would always try and make an excuse and say it was somebody else.

Speaker 9 I threw up in my room and I like took a shower at like four o'clock in the morning. And my dad came up and was like, why is there puke in your room? And I was like, it wasn't me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, someone else was there.

Speaker 9 I was the only person there.

Speaker 1 Someone else's beer.

Speaker 6 Yeah, one time my parents found an empty case of natural light in my room, and I just stared at it, and I tried to think of a lie. And after about like five seconds, I just looked at him.

Speaker 6 I was like, I got nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just blame it on a friend, and they'd be like, why are you carrying these beers? Oh, it's someone else's.

Speaker 1 What? That makes sense. And then you think in your head, like, I got fucking, wow.
What a, what a, what I'm like,

Speaker 1 what's the guy's name? And catch me if you can. Frank Abner.

Speaker 6 I'm Frank Abene. That's what Michael Irvin did with the cops.
He was like, this isn't, it's not my pipe. I'm holding it for a friend who recently asked me to help him quit smoking.
Yes.

Speaker 6 So I took it from him. Yeah.
Then I put it under my seat.

Speaker 1 I got caught with a fan in the kitchen one time because I was smoking weed and I like coughed.

Speaker 9 And I was like, I think if I fan out the air where I just coughed out the window,

Speaker 9 it'll be fine. And then my parents were like, why is there a fan in the kitchen? And then I just was so high.
I just looked at them. I was like,

Speaker 1 the worst one I got was I got caught with the, I don't know if you guys used to do this back in the day, the paper towel roll. Sploof.
The hole. Oh yeah.
The towel. Oh yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm not even talking about, are you talking about like

Speaker 1 the dryer sheets? Yeah. I'm talking about making a bowl out of the paper towel bowl.

Speaker 1 I do the top little tin foil, punch the holes into the tinfoil, and then you put your hand over it, you smoke it, and then you let your hand off.

Speaker 1 They just found a huge paper towel roll with a hole on top with tin foil. And they're like, what?

Speaker 6 Did they have any idea?

Speaker 1 It's like, no, it's a science project or some shit.

Speaker 9 I was an Apple guy.

Speaker 1 You're an Apple guy? I'm an Apple guy.

Speaker 6 We used to go to the store.

Speaker 7 It was a can.

Speaker 6 You'd can? Soda can. Like, crunch it up, yeah.
We used to go to the store.

Speaker 6 We would buy

Speaker 6 a 20-ounce plastic bottle, some big ballpoint pens, and then a Nestle crunch bar because it had tinfoil on it. Yeah.
And so we were like MacGyver. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, you just put me in a store and I'll figure out how to make a bong.

Speaker 2 I think it was Pop-Tarts.

Speaker 7 Someone told me that Bible, Bible paper, you could smoke.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 We should make a gravity bong. No, that's the worst feeling in the world.
That's the world school we should make.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, after a gravity bong.

Speaker 9 There's no worse feeling than being so high after a gravity bong.

Speaker 1 And there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 It's panic. It's panic.

Speaker 6 We could turn the bed of my El Camino into a giant gravity bong.

Speaker 1 I'm down. It'd be sick.

Speaker 1 A bathtub gravity bong? That's what it was when I got caught with the fan.

Speaker 6 Here's what we do. We fill up the El Camino with water, like one of those Philly dumpsters that they hang out in.
And then we get like a giant recycling bin and we put a hole in the top of it.

Speaker 6 I love it. Press it down.
Biggest hits out of it. I love it.

Speaker 7 I used to hide, obviously, like vodka and water bottles. And that's how we could kind of like, you know, bring it in and out, in and out of the house.
And one time my mom replaced

Speaker 7 the booze with like

Speaker 7 laundry detergent or like bubble, something like... dish soap, like clear dish soap, and I drank the whole thing and I legit burped a bubble.
It was like, I think, I think I'm.

Speaker 1 She got you.

Speaker 7 Yeah, she got me bad. Yeah.
And then the other worst one, this was, this was, this is by far the worst of like, I thought I got away with it. I would have the

Speaker 7 sploof with the dryer sheets in it in my bathroom that didn't have windows. And I did this one time because I thought it would work.
Turn the shower all the way in to hot.

Speaker 1 Tower. Tower in the door.

Speaker 7 And then there was a ventilator. So I was like, all the smoke's going up there.
I'll smoke

Speaker 7 a little bowl before. Blow in the thing.
And then I'll be in the shower for like 20 minutes. So by the time I'm out, the

Speaker 7 condensation has washed it out.

Speaker 7 That vent went straight to my basement.

Speaker 1 So I walked out into my dining room.

Speaker 7 My parents were just like, what were you doing?

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, what's up, guys? They're like,

Speaker 6 you know, that vent goes to the basement.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 That's so good.

Speaker 1 That was a great little tangent with you. Yeah, right there.
That's why I thought this would be a fun opening one.

Speaker 1 I think an AWL sent me this one. So shout out that guy.
The Mount Rushmore topic. I can't remember.
I'm pretty sure, so I apologize. That person, shout out you.
You know who you are.

Speaker 1 All right, so you have two picks.

Speaker 7 All right, I will go with girls pee from their butt.

Speaker 1 Yep, okay.

Speaker 7 And this was the recent one that

Speaker 7 blind drive signs meant that a blind person lived there.

Speaker 7 I learned that in my 20s.

Speaker 6 Wait, where it says like blind.

Speaker 7 Blind drive.

Speaker 6 What about blind?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's not. I'm thinking

Speaker 6 blind pedestrian crossing means that there is a blind blind person but blind drive means that you just can't see the driveway

Speaker 7 I always thought that meant that a blind person lives there and they they drive there

Speaker 1 all right I have one more

Speaker 1 this one's very dumb and it it comes from something you're told as a kid and I just assumed

Speaker 1 I thought my balls my testicles were play-doh so when my parents told me don't eat play-doh I thought they were trying to be like hey don't eat play-doh because your balls will just get bigger because it will just go right to your balls

Speaker 1 I thought my balls were Play-Doh. That would ride.

Speaker 1 You just don't know what they are when you're a little kid. And you start like that first time way before puberty and you like start touching them.
You're like, this is weird.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, it must be Play-Doh. That's why they're telling me not to eat Play-Doh.

Speaker 6 That's a good one. Yeah.
That's a good one. This is my last pick.
Yeah. Okay.
Last pick,

Speaker 1 I will go.

Speaker 6 I honestly used to think that every adult was smart.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought if you were growing up,

Speaker 6 you knew what was going on. Yeah, they kind of lied to you.
You understood it. Yeah.
And then you grow up and you're like, we're all dumb.

Speaker 1 No, we're all really fucking dumb. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you don't know what you don't know. I was probably smarter when I was a kid than I am now.

Speaker 1 I was definitely more intellectually curious. Yeah.
I was definitely asked better questions. Yep.

Speaker 1 And like had a more mind that was like trying to figure things out instead of just being like, oh, that's what it is.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but if an adult says something, it's like, yeah, no, they're right.

Speaker 3 They're an adult. Yeah, because most people

Speaker 1 either are bullshit, like

Speaker 1 they'll answer something just because they don't want to be wrong with a little kid, or

Speaker 1 they just say it is what it is.

Speaker 6 Or, yeah, or they're very confident and not smart at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Those are the ones that you want to watch out for.

Speaker 1 I need a new fact because,

Speaker 1 like, my kids always say when I tell them plans, I try to tell them the plans so they know what's coming, and they'll be like, we know that already. So then I was like, well, how about this?

Speaker 1 Did you know the Peregrine Falcon is the fastest animal? And that blew their mind. But I don't have a second one.

Speaker 6 Another fun, like an animal factor.

Speaker 1 Another fact in general. That's the extent of my knowledge.

Speaker 6 You can always go.

Speaker 1 I don't have anything that I'm confident in.

Speaker 6 Did you know that Detroit's further east than Atlanta?

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, that one's good. Yeah.
Human head weights eight pounds.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Maguire. Going too.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, Max, your last one.

Speaker 1 Teachers Lived at School. Yeah, good pick.

Speaker 6 Great one. Also, pick out you can go with.
Did you know that Clay Thompson's last game with the Warriors, he went over 10?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 True. Yeah, but that's a good pick, Max.
I had that on my list, too. I thought about that one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, nothing worse than when you, the once a year you called your teacher mom.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I thought about that.

Speaker 1 I thought about

Speaker 9 when I thought of teacher lived at school, I thought about that as well. And I was like, I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 1 All right. What other ones? I had,

Speaker 1 I thought, because this is like when technology was, you know, before the internet, everything, I thought my Game Boy controlled the airplane. That's why they told you to turn it off.

Speaker 1 So I thought, like, they're like, turn it off, because if you hit left here, when you're playing, you know, Tetris, it's going to go, the plane's going to go left.

Speaker 1 I also thought

Speaker 1 a million dollars was the most amount of money you could have.

Speaker 6 You max out?

Speaker 1 When you get a million dollars, you're set for life. Win, yeah.
Nothing else, like no one will ever, you're just, you retire. If you have a million dollars, boom, you're done.

Speaker 1 You retire at the age of seven.

Speaker 6 I thought that

Speaker 6 I thought I was an elf when I was a kid. Ooh.

Speaker 6 I thought, because I had pointy ears. I saw myself in the mirror one time.
I was like, fuck, small. I might be an elf.
That's tough.

Speaker 7 I used to think you actually won the money when you got a pop-up on your computer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
Scams. Yep.

Speaker 7 I also, I also, in that same vein, thought there was no correlation between what I was downloading on LimeWire and my computers crashing.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yep.
Oh, I mean, yeah,

Speaker 6 you could have a long conversation about songs that you thought were other bands' songs. Yeah.
I thought Dispatch wrote Crazy Game of Poker. Oh.

Speaker 7 I mean, every 50 Cent song was just Soldier Boy. Every song was Soldier Boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Any others, Max, that you had?

Speaker 7 Duct tape was duck DUCK. Like, it was ducks.
Made out of ducks.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 I'd have been killing a lot of ducks. Well, that's why it's called duct tape.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 The only reason that kids had glasses was because they didn't eat enough carrots.

Speaker 1 Yes, carrots are big times the night vision. Yeah.
I thought I could get night vision if I ate enough carrots.

Speaker 9 Also, off of vision,

Speaker 9 if you sit too close to the TV, you'll go blind.

Speaker 1 Oh, the other one,

Speaker 1 if someone slaps you in the back when you're making a face, you're stuck with that face for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 That was a big one.

Speaker 6 If you take a shower during a lightning storm, you'll get electrocuted.

Speaker 1 I thought chocolate milk came from brown cows. Okay.

Speaker 1 Until I was like 17.

Speaker 1 So you're 17? That's 17. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was up north driving past a brown cow, and I pointed to my cousin. I said, you know, chocolate milk comes from those things.
And he said, what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 I said, okay, I'm sorry. I should have known that.
I should have known that. Where did you think strawberry milk came from?

Speaker 1 I knew that was artificial. Okay.

Speaker 1 I thought the brown was in the the cow, you know, and he got mixed. I don't know.
Okay.

Speaker 6 I used to think I was going to be six feet tall because sometimes you go to a doctor and they're like, okay, you're you're projected to grow this tall. Yeah.
I thought I'd be six feet tall.

Speaker 6 I used to think O.J. was innocent.

Speaker 6 I swore OJ was innocent up and down. Yeah.
I was I was so happy when they found him not guilty.

Speaker 1 I when when video games like first started getting good, like, so this is when did PlayStation come out? PlayStation was like late 90s, right?

Speaker 1 I thought that

Speaker 1 I would, because like my, my parents would be like, you can't play video games during the week.

Speaker 1 I thought that I was pulling it off when like my mom would walk in the room and I was playing like 2K or Madden. And I was like, it's not a video game.

Speaker 6 I'm watching the game. I'm watching sports? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought the graphics were so good. And they were so bad looking back at it.
Yeah. I was just like, yeah, I got this.
She has no idea that these aren't real games.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 man. So stupid.
Just so stupid.

Speaker 6 I used to think that if you found the Tootsie Pop that had the Native American shooting a star, you could take it to the gas station. They'd give you a new one.
They give you a free Tootsie Pop.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Hank, any more?

Speaker 1 Any more recent? I mean, there's definitely some recent.

Speaker 6 Hank, I would like you to keep a running list, though, of just things that you find out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Just like things that upend small parts of your world.

Speaker 1 There's a couple that we have on this Mount Rushmore that I'm still a little 50-50 on. Elevator, crowds.

Speaker 6 I think if you jumped high enough, you might still get six feet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. Did I say the chewing?

Speaker 1 I can get the

Speaker 9 what if you swallow it, it stays there forever.

Speaker 1 That's one that I always thought it was seven years. That was what I was told.
Seven years.

Speaker 9 Regardless, I still might think that's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Hank just swallows all his gum, which is one of the most underrated, not talked about enough stories on Pardon My Take, That every time Hank chews a piece of gum, he swallows it.

Speaker 7 I would get like the CVS bags of gumballs. That's crazy.
Eat them like they were just.

Speaker 6 That's crazy. Even to this day, you swallow all your gum.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's fucking. It is nuts.
Crazy.

Speaker 6 When I was in, like, I don't know how old I was, but whenever you get like your first boners as a kid, I thought that meant that I had AIDS. Yeah.
I thought it was like, oh, I'm sick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm going to die.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a crazy time.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Good. Good Mount Rushbourne.
That was a fun one. Some good tangents.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests. It is Matt Damon and Casey Aflak.
They have a new movie out called The Instigators. You can watch it on Apple TV.
It is an awesome movie.

Speaker 1 We got a screener. We felt special for it.

Speaker 1 I guess my first question, though, is: You guys have been doing a bunch of interviews today.

Speaker 1 Is this background like a knuckleball that's thrown at you where you're like, these two idiots are now interviewing us? I don't know how we got this interview, but we're happy to do it.

Speaker 8 Everybody's got draft kings behind them so far today.

Speaker 1 Good.

Speaker 1 Every outlet.

Speaker 1 We had

Speaker 1 one of your PR people were like, you guys have the most time with them. We don't know how that happened.
And we're just like, oh, shit.

Speaker 8 We're going to change that, actually.

Speaker 1 yeah look i guess we suck

Speaker 6 you got two minutes yeah yeah so so you've been doing a lot of interviews today that's it's always interesting doing these because you were obviously promoting the movie what's the dumbest question that you've been asked so far and we'll make sure not to ask that question

Speaker 8 uh

Speaker 8 the mostly it's been the answers that are dumb the questions have been pretty good the but i don't want to put you guys on you know make you feel weird or anything but the last guy that interviewed us was an olympic fencer competing in his third olympics uh this summer and just the sweetest guy, great questions, really smart, killer athlete.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 8 So now we got you. And, you know, it's.
But come on.

Speaker 8 You guys got 40 minutes. He really wants to cover here.

Speaker 1 Listen, that's not a real sport. Let's be honest.
Fencing? We're doing fencing?

Speaker 8 I don't think you'd tell him that.

Speaker 1 Oh, I would, as long as he didn't have his little fencing.

Speaker 6 It's not even a real sword. Yeah, right.
It's got like a little electronic thing going.

Speaker 8 It's one of the oldest sports. It's a great sport.
Didn't you see Princess Bride? You didn't like that?

Speaker 1 No, Princess Bride was great.

Speaker 6 That was real swords. Real swords.
Yeah. When they start using real swords in fencing, I'll start watching.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 They used to, apparently. He was just telling us that, like, we, we were, he was talking about the equipment, and he said, too many people used to die.

Speaker 8 So that's why they put the thing at the end of the sword now.

Speaker 8 Also, that's like saying boxing is not a real sport because they don't use real fists. Like, they got something on a cushy thing on there.

Speaker 1 Although that fencing story you just said, Matt, that feels like every fencing guy says that to be like, actually, we used to be really tough. Like, you don't realize.

Speaker 1 Like, it was so tough, people died. So I feel like you got duped there.
All right. So the movie, though, is awesome.

Speaker 1 And my first question about the movie is, you guys obviously have done so many things in your career.

Speaker 1 Is there something specific when you work together and with Ben where you're like, this is just so much more fun because we're hanging with our friends and like the familiarity of it is just brings you back to early days?

Speaker 1 Do you have that feeling

Speaker 1 when you do a movie together? For sure.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.
But also it's not only the familiarity, it's like the

Speaker 8 work process. Like when you go way back with someone,

Speaker 8 you don't waste any time on like diplomacy, you know, which, you know, takes up a lot of your day when you're, when you're in an artistic endeavor with a whole group of people, a lot of times you're protecting everybody's feelings and you're, you know, well, what's the best way I can say this?

Speaker 8 And when you're with your old friend, you're just like, dude, that sucks, man we got to do something else like you know figure it out like and and you kind of get to the root of the problem faster and so much of filmmaking is just problem solving and so the quicker you can get to well right what's the problem how can we fix it the the the more the more fun it is because you move faster you're more efficient like there's a better kind of creative momentum yeah but because because you have that foundation it's like you know, the problem with doing that with people you don't know is people's feelings get hurt or they feel like there isn't that underlying respect, or you know, when that stuff's just a given.

Speaker 8 If you've known someone your whole life, it's just like, well, obviously, I love and respect you, but like, you know, we're lighting money on fire in production right now.

Speaker 8 Like, we got to figure this out right now.

Speaker 1 No feelings get hurt.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's like that. That's a fair point.
You got the underlying relationship, and you don't have to worry about pretending to be nice, or at least just being nice and wasting time doing that.

Speaker 6 I have a dumb question about just being on a movie set in general.

Speaker 6 Does it ever get boring?

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Like when you're filming a movie? Because how much of your your day is actually spent doing the work?

Speaker 1 Very little.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And it depends what you think of the work.
The time,

Speaker 8 there's an old saying that says it's

Speaker 8 what they call is that between action and cut is a take, right? So there's this old tongue twister saying it's not the take that takes the time to take the take.

Speaker 8 It's the time between the take that takes the time to take the take. It's all that time.

Speaker 6 I just got hypnotized.

Speaker 8 Action and cut. When you're like setting things up or thinking about what you want to do next,

Speaker 8 that's real good time spent sometimes, but it takes up most of the day. And if you added up all the seconds that were spent while the camera was actually rolling, I don't know, what would it be?

Speaker 8 An hour? You know what I mean? Maybe a couple more during on a 10-hour day or something. So most of the time is downtime.
And a lot of that time is when other people are doing what they need to do.

Speaker 8 Like you do your bit and then they got to move all the equipment and do stuff. And so you got to wait.
In the same way, it's probably boring for the...

Speaker 8 for the crew sometimes when you're you know need on take 10 of some scene that you're doing and they've heard it a million times and they don't want to. But so you learn to be patient.

Speaker 8 You learn to occupy yourself with other things or to like use that time to think about what you're going to do next. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And I imagine having your friends around, people that you've known in a long time, makes, makes all that time a little bit better.

Speaker 1 It makes it easier. Matches goes on Wordle.

Speaker 8 You try to like spend the time like catching up with your buddy. And that's over there doing like Tetris six hours a day.

Speaker 1 Wait, what is the game you're playing, Matt? Is it Wordle? Does it take you six hours to do Wordle?

Speaker 8 It does not. It does not take me six hours to do Wordle.
No, I usually, like,

Speaker 8 if it's a slow day, if I know it's like a boring day, like entrances and exits, like sometimes I'll bring my phone and catch up on emails and do stuff.

Speaker 8 And like Ben and I are also, you know, we have this studio, Artist Equity, and we're, and so that's, that's a, it takes a lot of time.

Speaker 8 Even when I'm not there in the office, there's a lot of stuff that needs to get done. And it's angry birds.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this movie is great, but when you guys were creating this and coming up with the idea,

Speaker 1 were you like, hey, we know we can play the hits here because people are going to love us back in Boston. You got the heist.

Speaker 1 It's a comedy as well. There's got to be a party where you're like, not playing the hits, but

Speaker 1 if someone said a mad lib, like Matt Damon, Casey Affleck, Ben Affleck are doing a heist movie in Boston and it's funny. It's like, yeah, I'm in.
I'm 100% in. I'll watch that all day.

Speaker 1 Did that go through your thought process? Like, we know this is going to be a hit.

Speaker 8 No, I wish we'd talked to you back when we were

Speaker 8 confidence.

Speaker 8 No, we, Case wrote the script with Chuck McClain, who's a Boston guy. And

Speaker 8 like, there was a lot of work. Once we started figuring out who was going to be in it, there was a lot more work to do.
So Case and Chuck came back to New York and we worked with the director.

Speaker 8 We were like... locked in a room for like three months trying to figure it out.
But what we really knew we wanted to do was a movie that was fun and

Speaker 8 moved fast, like had a momentum to it, and that was just really entertaining. That was kind of our, like Midnight Run is

Speaker 8 the kind of North Star for us for movies like this. It's kind of a perfect movie because it actually has some.

Speaker 8 some kind of emotional heft at the end too. It's like it really sneaks up on you, but it's really fun throughout the whole movie.

Speaker 8 And you're like with the characters, even when they're bickering and arguing. And

Speaker 8 so that's what we were trying to kind of like model

Speaker 8 the movie on. And that's kind of really all we were thinking.

Speaker 8 It never felt like a layup. It never felt like with a clear lane.

Speaker 8 We really wanted to be good. And I actually don't think that everyone's going to, like, if you made a stinker, people will let us know.
It's not like, ah, you know, they're going to just go anyway.

Speaker 8 Not these days. Like, you got to make a good movie.
People find out about it really quick. Everyone's on social media and they go, this movie sucks.
And nobody goes.

Speaker 8 So we knew that we had to do something good. And it doesn't matter who's in it.

Speaker 8 Just got lucky that we had like

Speaker 8 our director, Doug Lyman, but someone great in every single part, like, you know, really experienced comedians and great actors. And so kind of supported us.

Speaker 1 Do you guys, when you guys are doing movies, I'll start with you, Casey. Like if you are embarking on a project,

Speaker 1 how quickly can you tell like this is a hit or this might not be? this might not turn out exactly how I want it to be.

Speaker 8 I don't do that that well. Even when the movie's done, it's hard for me to see exactly.
Like, I just get too close to things.

Speaker 8 So, sometimes the movie's over, I'm like, when I see the first cut of a movie, I'm like, oh man, we didn't do it and missed. And then people really like it.

Speaker 8 And then years later, you watch it again, you're like, that was really good. It's pretty good.
It takes me a minute and some distance to be able to see a thing that I've been in clearly.

Speaker 8 And when you're on set and when you're reading it before you get to set, it's just a shot in the dark. I mean,

Speaker 8 your only guide is like,

Speaker 8 who are the other people involved? Do I want to work with them? Do I respect them? Do I like, you know, is this going to be something I can learn on? Is there something I think I can contribute?

Speaker 8 Whether it turns out to be good, it's just, there's too many factors. It's out of your control.

Speaker 8 You can put together, assemble the best people on the planet and still make something that just doesn't work. So you got to go in.
focused on the process and letting go of the results in some way.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 6 You talked about some of the great actors that are in this film. And one one of my favorites is in here uh paul walter hauser great actor

Speaker 6 fantastic right so yeah he's amazing so as you're writing this movie uh do you envision him in this role or when he was cast in this role were you like okay this is perfect had you worked with him before it's just i'm i'm enthralled with everything that he does he's just so good

Speaker 8 first thing i'd seen was blackbird and it was right when before they were casting it And I was like, that guy's amazing.

Speaker 8 That is a great performance.

Speaker 8 Didn't know him. Didn't know anything else about him.

Speaker 8 I didn't know him. I mean, I'd seen him in Jewel and

Speaker 8 Blackbird.

Speaker 8 But no, I mean, he just, he's also one of those guys, you know, we've been doing it for a long time and like we kind of know how the magic trick's done.

Speaker 8 And when you see somebody up close who's just a baller, it's just, it's just undeniable. Like from the second he walked on set and started working, you're like, God, that guy is so freaking good.

Speaker 8 He really is one of the best actors out there um

Speaker 8 so yeah i'm i'm you know we're trying to do something else with him at artist equity now um a project that he wrote actually i i want to do as much as i can with him just because i think i just think he's incredible can i pitch you wrestling now can i pitch you two two projects for him that i think he would knock out of the park one yeah i'll tell him one would have to sign something first okay no you can you can steal this steal my ip um one would be him playing andy reed in the andy reed story oh that's a great idea i think it would crush that

Speaker 1 not bad. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then Confederacy dunces.

Speaker 6 If that movie ever gets made,

Speaker 1 he needs to play Ignatius.

Speaker 8 Philip Seymour Hoffman was looking at that for a really long time

Speaker 8 and got close, I think, a few times. I remember talking to him about it 20 years ago.
I read a few scripts of that. Yeah.
And never quite as good as the book, but that's a good, that's a good call.

Speaker 8 Those are two really good calls. And in fact, I will call Paul when I get home tonight and I'll tell him.

Speaker 1 Let him know.

Speaker 6 I wish I could buy a stock in somebody winning best actor at some point. Like, if there was a market out there, I'd put a lot of money on that guy.

Speaker 8 That's a good call. Yeah, that's a very good call.

Speaker 1 We should do that. We should create a stock market.
Create the stock market for

Speaker 8 there was something called the Hollywood Stock Exchange for a while.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you could bet on them being

Speaker 8 movies you bet on or something?

Speaker 8 HSX.

Speaker 8 No, you buy stock in actors and movies, and then it goes up and down based on, I'm not sure what, but

Speaker 1 I think that's the hardest. I like that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we'll figure out the market for that. Matt, I had a question for you.
Did you not get invited to do a roast at Tom Brady's thing?

Speaker 8 No, I did. I did.
That's why I did the voiceover at the beginning

Speaker 8 because I couldn't go to LA because I was in New York and I had to go to the Met Ball the next team.

Speaker 1 Oh, what happened? That's more of a Met Ball kind of guy.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 dude. Oh,

Speaker 1 is that true? Are you a Met Gala guy over a Tom Brady guy?

Speaker 8 Don't judge him, guys. He likes fashion.
Here's the key to a happy marriage. I would rather be happy than right, okay? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it is Tom Brady.

Speaker 8 It is Tom Brady, and Tom understood.

Speaker 8 I texted with him. He invited me to go out.
And then it was good that I was able to.

Speaker 8 There was a nice little video package they did at the beginning. And so I went to a studio here in New York and did a voiceover for that.
I wasn't invited, if you're curious. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Did you help Ben?

Speaker 1 I wasn't invited to go.

Speaker 8 I wasn't invited to roast. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 How did you think your brother did?

Speaker 8 I actually didn't see it.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's good. So you could just say he did well.
You could just be like, great job. I'm sure he did really good.

Speaker 8 Yeah. I'm pretty good at a roast, though.

Speaker 8 I kind of roasted Matt at his wedding.

Speaker 8 Trust me.

Speaker 1 You did? What did you say?

Speaker 8 He did like 30 straight minutes of stand-up. Like he was Dave Chappelle or something.
That was my one shot, and I took it. He just destroyed me in front of like my family and friends.

Speaker 8 It was incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're allowed to do that at a wedding. You're allowed to just like, you know, just be like, here I was.

Speaker 8 Also, wedding, like, we, this was 15 years ago or but my wife and i had already been together for 10 years and we had been married for like eight of those years and so it was like we never we had run to the courthouse when we got married and so we never got to have a wedding so like 10 years after we met we decided to do a big wedding and so it was So it was kind of a more fun affair because it wasn't like, oh, is it going to work out?

Speaker 8 Like we were already married for a long time and we just had a big, fun weekend with our friends and

Speaker 8 until Casey.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 That was smart of you, Casey. You can't.
What's the worst that's going to happen? They're just going to go back to being married, which they've done for eight years before.

Speaker 8 That was very nice about Lucy. Yeah.
She deserved it.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 we're taping this a couple months before it comes out.

Speaker 1 Do you guys want to give us a prediction on the Celtic season? So that way you can either look really smart or really bad.

Speaker 8 Yes. Yes.
I'll give you my prediction. Well, my hope is obviously probably what all our hope is, but my prediction is: I mean, Porcinga is probably coming back after game four.

Speaker 8 Did a horn just go outside? Like, shut up, man.

Speaker 1 That was a sign.

Speaker 8 Look, I think we're the best team left. I think we're the deepest team.
And if we can stay injury-free and if he can come back, I feel like we really should win this thing. And I'm hoping that we do.

Speaker 8 I will be gutted if we don't.

Speaker 8 Especially after that, you know, we're taping this just before game two in the Eastern Conference finals. I didn't love how close the game was at home the other night, but it was

Speaker 8 we definitely stole one back from them. And so it feels like one of those faded years

Speaker 1 at the moment.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 I'll be gutted if we don't win it.

Speaker 1 Okay. And Casey, you got the Wolves or something?

Speaker 1 It'd be funny if you were just like, yeah, Wolves in five. No problem.

Speaker 8 I want to ask you guys a question. Did you guys see Dynasty?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You did. Did you feel like it was fair?

Speaker 1 No, not at all. We ripped it apart.

Speaker 1 It was basically Robert Kraft being like, I need more credit for everything that's happened,

Speaker 1 which is a crazy thing to think about because if you're an owner of a sports team, you are a billionaire, you own the team, you're never going to get as much credit as the quarterback and the coach.

Speaker 1 But all these guys, they want this credit of being like, I did more than everyone realizes. And in doing that, he ends up kind of looking bad.

Speaker 1 And he makes like, I think they slanted it so hard against Belichick that everyone who has watched the Patriots the last 20 years are like, this is not how it happened.

Speaker 1 Like, this is the best coach of all time. What are they talking about? So, I think it actually hurt him.

Speaker 8 And you think that that agenda came from Robert Kraft?

Speaker 1 I think Robert Kraft wants to get into the Hall of Fame, and I think he kind of overplayed his hand here because they don't let a lot of owners in.

Speaker 1 Like, Jerry Jones just got in, I don't know, like five, six years ago.

Speaker 8 Why would Robert Kraft not get into the Hall of Fame if any other owner is in the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 Well, Matt, I don't know if you know, but the Patriots have been involved in some controversies with the NFL.

Speaker 1 So that might be why.

Speaker 8 Those are fake controversies.

Speaker 1 He'll get in, but I think he was trying to basically put out a documentary saying, this is all I did. And in watching it, we're just like, what is going on here?

Speaker 6 It's hard to do that with a documentary, too, to have an audience watch it and understand exactly what the agenda is as you're watching it.

Speaker 6 Sometimes you go back and you're like, oh, well, it turns out his production company was involved. Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 6 As you're watching this, when you see the interviews with Coach Belichick, and he looks like

Speaker 6 he'd rather be anywhere else than in that chair answering these questions, he always looks like that in an interview, but

Speaker 6 that's a fair point. But I felt like it was especially in this one.

Speaker 6 And you understand that they shot it during the season while he was an employee of Robert Kraft, who was like telling him, Hey, go sit for this interview.

Speaker 6 Because I actually think Belichick would not have sat for any interview with anyone if it was just his own choice. Right.
But he was kind of made to do it.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, it kind of ended up, I think, being like a little bit more sympathetic towards Belichick and

Speaker 6 that point of view than they wanted it to be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because everyone's... Do you know what was it to me about that?

Speaker 8 Like one of the details was that him and Ernie figured out, like, saw that Drew Bledsoe was getting nervous, getting like skittish feet in the pocket. Like, I never, ever knew that.

Speaker 8 And that never came out. Like, remember that year when it was going down? Everyone was like, who's he going to play this week? Like, oh my God, he's putting the kid back in.

Speaker 8 like because bledsoe was like the guy in newing 100 million dollar contract and all that stuff i never i never realized that they actually saw something they were like because bledsoe played in that era where i mean he took punishment like and and how does that not get to you the accumulation of all those hits like you start thinking about that you're coming off of an injury and that that it was actually a calculated decision they were like well the 22 year old kid's cool with it like yeah let's leave him yeah um that i thought was really cool i'd never i'd never known that.

Speaker 8 What I'll say is that it's, it was so well done. It's like 100% Rotten Tomatoes.
Watching it, you just sit down and you watch from beginning to end. It's like one of the best sports talks.

Speaker 8 I think it leaves people with the impression that that is how it was. That, you know what I mean? I haven't talked to a lot of people that are like, I don't know.

Speaker 8 Like, I think we got manipulated a little bit. I think, you know, the kind of take that you have is not the take that I hear most of the time.

Speaker 8 Most, most people just go like, wow, it was interesting to learn that Belichick was like X, Y, and Z. Instead of saying, I think this might have been.

Speaker 8 Here's another question, though, just real quick, because I know you guys

Speaker 8 know so much about this. Like, what's going to happen to Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? He's probably going to get injured again.

Speaker 6 He's going to get injured, and then he's going to run for vice president, and he's going to become vice president of the United States.

Speaker 1 You think he'll get out again, huh?

Speaker 8 Yeah, no, that's a.

Speaker 1 I'm a Bears fan, so Aaron Rodgers is tortured my entire life. Um, so I hate him.
I've been trying to get him put in jail for a very long time.

Speaker 8 Um, and then you made it on about this draft choice as a Bears fan. Tailwind,

Speaker 1 yeah, he's gonna be incredible. He's eccentric.
He's cool. Paints his fingernails.
That's not a problem, right?

Speaker 8 I don't see why that would be a problem. No, I'm just wondering if you think it'll be, it's that number one.
It's that it's really tough.

Speaker 8 Like, do you get Peyton Manning or do you get, you know, Mitch Jabit?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? You didn't have to say Mitch. Mitch was the second pick.

Speaker 8 So that was the second pick, but Mahomes was in that draft. Yes.

Speaker 1 He was. He was.

Speaker 8 That's got to hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, we, you know, you guys got Drake May. So Hank, our producer, is a big Patriots fan.
He was actually in the documentary because he went to jail for Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 He didn't like the documentary. He thought it was too slanted.
So I don't know. Maybe it's.
Slanted all around. Yeah.
He thought it was just too much hate on Bill Belichick and not giving away. I did.

Speaker 8 I like Belichick's thing at the roast where he said, you know, it's brave of you to do a roast for a couple hours rather than in a 10-part Apple series. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 8 That was really funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you, so

Speaker 1 going off of that, Hank, our producer, he admitted a couple of weeks ago that he is like, for the first time in his life, he's like, has to come to grips with the fact that he might just be a loser this year in football.

Speaker 1 Have you guys had that thought where you're like, oh, this is different now. We're losers again.

Speaker 8 If Hank is,

Speaker 8 he grew up with Patriots. If Hank is an old school Patriots fan and he's anywhere near our age, then he's not.

Speaker 2 He's 30.

Speaker 6 All he's known is joy.

Speaker 8 So he's got no fucking idea.

Speaker 8 Being a Patriots fan was a certain kind of hell for, and it's true. And maybe this is why we have a different perspective on the Robert Kraft thing until Robert Kraft bought the team.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Like they were, it was brutal going out to Foxborough to watch them play. It was brutal watching them play on TV.
Like it just was, it was heartbreaking constantly.

Speaker 8 In fact, his dad used to always say, bet against the Patriots. No matter what, just bet against the Patriots.

Speaker 8 If you want to make money gambling, the only sure thing to do is bet against the Patriots when we were kids. So

Speaker 8 I'm comfortable with knowing that they're going to, you know, they're going to go through that kind of predictable next stage. You got to rebuild.

Speaker 8 You got to rebuild properly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Hank is young enough where he's only known joy in his life as a Boston sports fan. So across the world.
That's amazing to me.

Speaker 8 Like, cause our formative years were so different. Like between the, I mean, we had, we had the Celtics in the 80s, which was huge.
That was all I had.

Speaker 8 And that's what we had.

Speaker 8 But every other team was just, would break your heart every year. The Patriots less so because they just were never good.
They were, it was like excruciating watching them play.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.
So if you were to rank your favorite, like top three Boston sports memories, what would they be?

Speaker 8 Memories?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Soul memories being there or just moments and since

Speaker 6 I guess you're just really tough. Your three favorite championships.
All right.

Speaker 8 2004. I have to start with 04.
Yeah. Without a doubt.
I mean, I went to the parade. 10-07.
04-07.

Speaker 8 I drove up from New York.

Speaker 8 and got to Boston and we were all going to the parade. We had my nephews.
We had everybody,

Speaker 8 my oldest daughter. And I literally ran up to Boylson Street before we were going to go meet them at the river to watch the duck boats go out by myself and stood on Boylson Street and just cried.

Speaker 8 I was in my 30s as the duck boats went by. Like that's how profound that was for, I didn't think we would, it's that thing that you couldn't believe.
It's like.

Speaker 8 the dog catching the car and then eating it in front of you. Like you just couldn't believe.
Matt and I, in 2004, we went to Yankees Stadium. It was game three.

Speaker 8 Game three. It was the moment the curse got broken.
They didn't lose. That was the end of losing because then they won that game.
They won the next three games.

Speaker 8 And then they swept Cincinnati and we finally won. This is how bad it was.
We wore Red Sox hats into Yankee Stadium and we thought, all right, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 8 And as we walked in, everyone was like, oh, like, it's so cute that you wore your hat. Like, they just so didn't care.
Like, it was so not a rivalry to them. They were so sure they were going to win.

Speaker 8 Oh, it was just awful.

Speaker 6 Casey, they're going to cook you in the comments to this video. They meant to say Cardinals.
They swept the Cardinals. Yeah, you meant to say Cardinals.

Speaker 1 We got your back.

Speaker 8 We'll edit it out. Sorry, sorry.
Sorry. Cooked with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 I haven't cooked before. Good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll edit it out. So, wait, who's in, so those championships, but who's your Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 8 I should have known that because it was John Hamm's team, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who's your Mount Rushmore of Boston athletes?

Speaker 8 Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 1 That's a great question.

Speaker 8 I mean, obviously, Tom, for football, there's zero doubt about that. Wait,

Speaker 8 no, no. No, no.

Speaker 8 For baseball,

Speaker 8 so here's the thing. Big Poppy.
I would go Big Poppy. I think a lot of people would say Ted Williams.
I'm going to say... In our life? No, most of people in our life.

Speaker 8 But I'm saying you're saying Boston all-time. Okay.
Right. Because when you get to basketball, what do you do? Bill Russell? Right.
11 championships, player, coach.

Speaker 8 Like, how do you not put Bill Russell on that Mount Rushmore? Yeah, you'll never see that again, right? But then you've also got Larry. You've got Paul Pierce.
You've got the big three fucking guy.

Speaker 8 I like Paul. Paul, I don't think he's on Mount Rushmore.
No, no, but I'm just saying

Speaker 1 that you're red Arbach when all is said and done.

Speaker 8 And then Bobby Orr. That would be...
So I would probably go Tom, Poppy,

Speaker 8 Bobby Or,

Speaker 8 Bill Russell.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's good for one.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's a strong four. So if you're casting like the 28 to 3 Patriots, if you're making a movie, I assume that you guys would be involved in the production of that.

Speaker 6 That feels like it would be right in your wheelhouse. Who plays what?

Speaker 6 Who plays what role?

Speaker 8 Well, I'd cast him as Matt Ryan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good answer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who gets Tommy?

Speaker 6 What's that? Who gets to play Tommy?

Speaker 8 Who plays Tom Brady? I don't know. Who plays Tom Brady?

Speaker 8 Who today, what young actor could play Tom? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Jacob Alordi? This guy's like, yeah, he's tall.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good actor.

Speaker 8 He's awesome.

Speaker 8 I don't know. I'm not going to cast it.

Speaker 1 Gronk plays himself. That's it.

Speaker 8 I don't think anybody would believe it if you made it into a movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 What's the one role that you passed up that you kick yourself constantly? You're like, damn, I really should have taken that role.

Speaker 8 You know, it's funny.

Speaker 8 I really have a more kind of Zen philosophy about this because there's a lot of roles I've passed up that were really great that turned into great movies.

Speaker 8 But for one reason or another, I had to pass it up. And

Speaker 8 I really feel like the right actor gets the part. You know, it just kind of works out.

Speaker 8 But the biggest one that I ever passed, without a question,

Speaker 8 I had a chance to be an avatar. And but it conflicted with the born ultimatum, with the post-production of the born ultimatum.
So I just couldn't do it.

Speaker 8 And the bummer for me was that I couldn't work with Jim Cameron because he doesn't work that often. And I realized in passing, I was like 35 years old.

Speaker 8 I was like, I'm probably not going to get another chance to work with Jim Cameron. And that sucks because I really would have loved to work with him.
I love his movies. I would have learned a lot.

Speaker 8 And I probably would have made more money than any actor in history had I taken the part.

Speaker 8 But, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't, it doesn't keep me up at night. I mean, I know why I had to pass.

Speaker 8 So I'm at peace with it.

Speaker 1 Sounds like every now and then.

Speaker 1 It sounds like every now and then you think about how much money that would have been.

Speaker 1 I think because it's funny.

Speaker 8 Because it's not real money. It's like,

Speaker 8 right? So

Speaker 8 it's not like that money got taken from me, which would have bankrupted me, by the way.

Speaker 8 It's just money that I never. It's like I also could have

Speaker 8 invested in Apple stock 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? But I didn't.

Speaker 6 What was it 10%? It was 10% of

Speaker 6 the total earnings from the film.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Do you ever go back and look at what the total earnings are? What are the total earnings, people?

Speaker 1 Is it made over 200? Let's do it right now. It's made over 2 billion.

Speaker 1 What the earnings are.

Speaker 6 Total earnings. And this is just Avatar 1.

Speaker 8 That's Avatar 1, right? There were sequels.

Speaker 1 $3 billion.

Speaker 6 $3 billion is the total earnings.

Speaker 6 Is it $3 billion?

Speaker 1 $3 billion.

Speaker 6 I'm not good at math.

Speaker 1 What's $10 per million? $300 million. You're good at math, Casey.

Speaker 6 Wait, Avatar 2.

Speaker 1 $300 million. Oh, no.

Speaker 6 Oh, no. And Avatar 2 is 2.3 billion.

Speaker 1 Oh, and think about that, Matt. I haven't even thought about that.

Speaker 8 I doubt he would have given me the same deal on the second one.

Speaker 1 He would have been like, dude, come on.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 1 you would have had that money, and you also definitely wouldn't have been doing this interview with us, us two shitheads right now. You would have been like, I don't have to do press.

Speaker 8 You see? You see. You would have owned a draft.

Speaker 8 Yeah, exactly. I would have owned Barth School Sports.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It would have been great.
So what was the answer for you, Casey?

Speaker 1 Is there one that you look back and you're like, I kind of wish, not like a huge regret, but like, man, I had that in front of me and it would have been cool if I did that.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 8 And really, I mean,

Speaker 8 no, I don't really, there haven't been a ton that have been like people not begging me to do some movie that could be great and it isn't great. I mean, you know, and I don't think it is.

Speaker 8 I mostly like see things I want and I just really try hard to get them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then.

Speaker 8 I usually don't get them. And then some of them I do.
And then I do those. There are very few that I pass on that have ended up being, you know,

Speaker 8 trying to think, huge, hugely successful or super cool movies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No way you would have passed on Avatar, right?

Speaker 8 No, he's not that dumb.

Speaker 8 I wouldn't have done that. I told them not to do it, in fact, because I was hoping they'd come to me next.

Speaker 1 They just have a sheet. They're like, all right.
Ben said no. Matt said no.
Okay, Casey, there you are.

Speaker 1 All right. So this movie, though, is

Speaker 1 very good. People need to go see it.
It's very funny. Was it cool having a moment where you're like, we're back in Boston filming this,

Speaker 1 the three of us together,

Speaker 1 20, whatever, five years since Goodwill Hunting.

Speaker 1 Have you had that pinch yourself moment where it's like, you never thought in a million years when we did Goodwill Hunting, this is where we'd be right now?

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 like my dream was to, my dream, childhood dream, kind of ended with goodwill hunting coming out you know and i remember that experience and afterwards going well what do i do now like that was that was it that was all i ever wanted was to was to make a great movie and be in it and and um

Speaker 8 and so like the fact that we're still able to do this like we love this job we love it it's so fun making movies and and and having people like them and and and if people like them if enough people like them then you get to do another one And it's really hard to string together a career because there's no tenure or anything, you know, it's just what's your next thing.

Speaker 8 And so most careers kind of die on the vine or fizzle out or for whatever reason, it's very hard to sustain a career. And so the fact that we're still both working 25 years after that movie

Speaker 8 is great. And

Speaker 8 that is like a, that is the pipe dream, really.

Speaker 8 So we're just trying not to screw it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He's got to be very cool.

Speaker 6 Done a good job not screwing it up so far.

Speaker 1 You guys are very humble. Yeah.
Do you guys both realize you're really fucking good actors?

Speaker 8 Thanks, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like maybe this is why it's good that we don't have like a ton of success because I'd be just walking around being like, yeah, I'm just going to make another hit.

Speaker 1 It's not going to be a big deal. Like, whatever.

Speaker 8 That's, by the way, that like you can't think that way in the movie because it's like, that's like, that's like poison. Like, if you think this is going to be a hit, it's not.

Speaker 8 Like the one time I was like, this is going to be a hit was that movie, The Great Wall, that I did.

Speaker 8 Man, was that not a hit?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 8 it was like, and I feel, I figured it out like a month into shooting and we had like four months to go. And I was just like, I came to realize that as the definition of a professional actor.

Speaker 8 That's true. Still get up every day and be like, and you're on a ship that you know isn't seaworthy.
And you're like, I'm going to do everything that's asked to me.

Speaker 8 I'm going to do, I'm going to work my ass off today for 14 hours. Like that,

Speaker 8 you know, that's a, that's a, that's a feeling that I don't want to.

Speaker 8 I had that experience of being in the one that was like, just didn't land the gray wall on the same movie that also was my like, this is the thing I've always waited for, which was.

Speaker 8 The assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford that Brad Pitt was in. It was like a studio movie with Brad Pitt.
I was the lead.

Speaker 8 It was one of the most beautiful scripts I'd ever read with a great director.

Speaker 8 And then it came out and nobody liked it. And it was like,

Speaker 8 just felt like the biggest disappointment for a minute. And I thought, I love this movie.
What do I care?

Speaker 1 Because no one likes it.

Speaker 8 You have to divorce yourself from those responses. And then 10 years later, it was like, you know, people really loved that movie just for whatever reason.
Like, it's not in the moment.

Speaker 8 It wasn't in the moment. It was bad timing.
And then people found it. And so those kinds of ups and downs, like you have to just roll, roll with all of them if you want to keep working.

Speaker 8 That's the weird thing, too, about like what became way more

Speaker 8 common knowledge in the last 30 years is the box office.

Speaker 8 And I think because of the explosion of like Marvel and all the IP movies, like everybody started paying attention to the business side of things. Like that wasn't a thing when we were growing up.

Speaker 8 Like if I'd go see Robert De Niro in a movie, I didn't know how it did at the box office. I wouldn't even know what that meant.
And it's not really an accurate barometer of how good a movie is.

Speaker 8 It just means that a bunch of people went to see it. And so to try, it's like people make that thing of they try to quantify a movie by how much money it makes.

Speaker 8 And it is one yardstick by which to take a measurement, but it's really not the only thing. And it's never a measure of if something's going to last and sustain.

Speaker 8 And, you know, like Ben's movie, The Town, just got re-licensed on

Speaker 8 by Warner brothers a few years ago for like 35 million bucks like 15 years later it's worth that much to one of these streamers because people are still watching the movie and like that's a mark of a movie that really works you know what i mean it lasts and i always thought like when they do the academy awards the the real best way to do it if you take all the the money and the marketing all that stuff out is to do the awards like 20 years after the movies come out.

Speaker 8 So this year you'd be voting on the movies that were out in 2004. and every and then you it would be so easy to go like, well, what made it? Like there's no spin.

Speaker 8 There's no it's like I still watch that movie. I still love that movie.
Like that was the best movie of 2004. It would be, I think, probably a more accurate gauge of

Speaker 8 whether a movie really works. You could revote.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Maybe we start that, guys. Maybe instead of that's the new we'll do a revote

Speaker 8 stock exchange. We do a revote.
I like that.

Speaker 8 Are there any sports stories that you guys think you wish would be made into movies?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 Was it 1995 South African rugby team that nobody thought could win the World Cup? And it was like a story of races coming together, too, and like post-apartheid South Africa.

Speaker 6 I think that's such a great story.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's going to work. What about?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 6 if somebody did it right, it would be my favorite movie ever. But we just, we need somebody to step up and do that.

Speaker 1 I'd like to see a movie on the time Jopa shit his pants during a game.

Speaker 1 Just throw that out there. Like, people would be like, oh, we're doing a Joe Paterno movie.
I'd be like, oh, that's heavy. It's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 It's just the time he shit his pants against Ohio State.

Speaker 1 That's the whole movie. That's the only brothers movie.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 Or do it a movie about how frequently Joe Missoula watches the town. That's where the 35 million came from, by the way.
It's just Joe Missoula watches it every single time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does. We had him on.
He said that. All right.

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Speaker 1 I've heard you say it and talk about it, but Casey, I don't know if I've ever seen you talk about it. What do you think about your brother's back tattoo?

Speaker 8 Looks like it hurts.

Speaker 1 Classy, right? It's classy.

Speaker 8 By the way, we both had a tattoo on our back that we got when we were really, really young.

Speaker 8 That was way better. It was simple, elegant, meaningful.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 The other thing, but I like the guy, the tattoo artist who does that is very, very very talented. A really nice, sweet guy.
I think he just got talked into doing something that, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What if we just made the entire back a tattoo? And he's like, yeah, I guess.
Was he sedated for that? Like Dak Prescott?

Speaker 6 Did they knock him out for the tattoo?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They probably did. Well, he's never going to live that down.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, thank you guys. We really appreciate it.
I didn't even bring up the time. My wife saw you, Matt, and Dumbo.

Speaker 1 That's my whole Matt Damon story. She just saw you at dinner.
So that's it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the whole thing I got. We used to live in Dumbo.
So she's like, oh, I saw Matt Damon. That's the whole story, though.
There's nothing special.

Speaker 8 That's the story. We didn't talk.
No, no.

Speaker 1 She just, no, she just texts me. She's like, I just walked past Matt Damon.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 1 Pretty good story.

Speaker 1 Pretty good story, right? It'll be a better story.

Speaker 8 Yeah. It'll be a better story if we actually say something to each other.

Speaker 1 No, she just saw you and just texted me. I saw Matt Damon.
It's like, oh, okay, cool. I'll settle about real quick.

Speaker 6 What is a rat at the end of the departed symbolize? We've talked about this for years.

Speaker 8 uh i mean i it's probably if marty hasn't come out and said it i mean the whole movie is about rats and you know oh it's a rat

Speaker 1 it's probably right

Speaker 8 yeah i mean i mean uh

Speaker 8 the writer had in the script in the in in the original script that i lived in an old brownstone in like back bay and that was the idea of me of me uh kind of climbing the the you know the the social ladder and now i find myself in this old brownstone but there's still a rat that you the rat comes across And it's his past.

Speaker 8 It's the thing, you know, it's meant to symbolize all that stuff. Got it.

Speaker 8 But Marty

Speaker 8 wanted to see the state house, you know, to kind of, you know, and he's looking out at the gold, which meant that I was in kind of a more modern building.

Speaker 8 And so people kind of, some people bristled at the rat. They're like, what's a rat doing in that building? Yeah.
It looks a little incongruous. Symbolic.
But so, yeah. It's a rat.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you guys so much. We really appreciate it.
It was great to have you guys on. And everyone go watch the Instigators.
It's an awesome movie.

Speaker 8 Thanks, guys. Love your show.
I love your show.

Speaker 1 Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to Fire Fest. Okay, let's wrap up the show.
We got Fire Fest of the week. Hank, you're back from vacation.
I am.

Speaker 7 Your Fire Fest?

Speaker 7 That's the problem with vacations. There's not really,

Speaker 7 there's not any bad things to talk about.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And you need a vacation for your vacation.

Speaker 1 So you got back today at two.

Speaker 1 You landed at two.

Speaker 7 Landed at two. So I sat in traffic.
When I landed, I had to sit in traffic for two hours.

Speaker 1 Thursday's out.

Speaker 1 And then tomorrow you'll be in the office?

Speaker 7 Yeah, in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Why? What are you doing in the morning?

Speaker 7 Well, we have the week off, and then Big Cat's, you know, been saying all summer, like, I'm just wondering, I can't. Find a day to go to Beverly, find a day to go.

Speaker 1 What do you do to go play golf?

Speaker 7 And since technically this is a week off, we are here right now. We're going to be here all night.
I've been here all day.

Speaker 7 We're going on a work trip Saturday. No big deal.

Speaker 1 But we're golfing. You and I are golfing.
Yeah. Hank's holding me hostage.
I'm golfing tomorrow in the morning.

Speaker 6 I'm excited? Have fun. Those greens are fast.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play about nine holes. What?

Speaker 1 Is that a slap in the member's face? I think so. Really? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I told you. You've been saying all you're like, oh, let's set it up.
Let's set it up.

Speaker 7 This is a week off. You're like, I got to go do the yak.
It's like, okay.

Speaker 1 All right, maybe I'll be late to the yak. Maybe I'll play 12 holes.
Whatever you want. You know, I'm not an 18-hole guy.
No, I know. I'm not an 18-hole.

Speaker 1 I'm just excited to, you know, play some golf with my friends. Yeah.
So, what's your firefest?

Speaker 7 I sat at Sin Traffic, two hours of traffic.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 6 Are you okay?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, that's it. I had a great week.

Speaker 1 Are you going to cry?

Speaker 7 I love vacation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a good vacation. Feel refreshed.
Feel refreshed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Traffic is, I wouldn't wish that on my mouth.

Speaker 7 I mean, I lost, I also lost a Mount Rushmore to a fucking, someone picking celery for a snack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, celery and peanut butter.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And you know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're in trouble.

Speaker 6 I'm with Hank because we've got a meatball merchant named Max, and he's just stacking wins because he keeps picking the fattiest foods.

Speaker 1 Well, and we're done with food drafts for the rest of the summer. So we'll see how Max can hold up without having to just go meatballs on every draft.
It has been a stunning,

Speaker 1 like Max said, on fire in the Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 7 I did spend a lot of time reflecting and trying to, you know, revisit some game plan and strategy things because,

Speaker 7 like, the snack draft, I

Speaker 7 that went great for me. I left that draft being like, great draft.

Speaker 1 And then celery beats. Dead last.

Speaker 7 Celery. Lost his

Speaker 7 celery. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That

Speaker 7 whooped you. That really has put my brain in a pretzel.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. PFT, your Fire Fest?

Speaker 6 I've had a pretty good week. It's been a nice little vacation here.

Speaker 6 But I think

Speaker 6 the joint Fire Fest is that the Takeies have stirred up a lot of controversy.

Speaker 6 And there are some people who are very upset. Tom Fernelli, very upset for not being nominated for Italian of the Year.

Speaker 6 He's got a lot to work on with his Italianness this year, and I hope he puts forth a better showing. But then the big controversy is from the Lib of the Year award.
Yes.

Speaker 6 And Jerry is really going through it right now because Jerry, he keeps alternating back and forth between like, okay, I appreciate the award, and saying, like, oh no, please take it away from me.

Speaker 6 Everyone, please stop stop calling me the lib of the year. He texted me in Big Cat this morning asking us if we would rescind the award and take it away from him.

Speaker 6 We reminded him that there is a cash prize that goes along with the award. Correct.
So he says that he's okay with keeping it for now.

Speaker 6 He did a quick 180 on that one, but he's really struggling with everyone calling him the lib of the year online.

Speaker 6 So please, everyone, if we could stop calling Jerry Lib of the Year Online and don't remind him that he won the Lib of the Year Award no matter what.

Speaker 1 Here's here's a good so yeah, he

Speaker 1 he was quickly backtracked when we told him the cash prize, you'd have to give that back.

Speaker 1 And we said that the cash prize is up to ⁇ it could be up to $20,000 depending on how many times people call him Lib of the Year.

Speaker 1 But I agree with PFTs. Please stop calling him Lib of the Year online.

Speaker 1 Instead, buy a Jerry Lib of the Year shirt that's now in the store. So you can do it in real life, which would be better.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 6 And yeah, just no matter what, stop calling him that all the time. Like, stop saying that to him every single minute that you're online.

Speaker 1 He said that he's going to delete Twitter, but that's also because there was a picture of him eating a corn dog, getting a corn dog shoved down his throat. So he's having a tough time.

Speaker 1 He's having a tough go of it. He also has a picture going floating around with the Hillary Clinton trading card on his forehead.
So it's been a tough week. But he did win the Lib of the Year.

Speaker 1 So congrats to him. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, he should be, I guess, be proud of whatever award that you get. He's more of a participation trophy kind of guy, though, I guess.
So he wants everyone to have Lib of the Year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's actually in the new Twitter, there's the Explorer, and one of the top ones I have right now is Lib of the Year award controversy. And it's got the

Speaker 1 AI summary. It says, Jersey Jerry, a prominent figure, was awarded Lib of the Year title by the popular podcast.
Pardon my take.

Speaker 1 The announcement made by Nick Adams led to a flurry of reactions on social media.

Speaker 1 While many congratulated Jerry, he expressed discomfort with the overwhelming attention and requested a reduction in the frequency of mentions.

Speaker 1 The situation sparked a mix of support, humor, and criticism from various users, highlighting the complexities of public recognition in the digital era.

Speaker 1 Perfect. I love it.

Speaker 6 It's perfect. Yeah.
Also, how come nobody told me I look like I'm in hell right now?

Speaker 1 Well, you just changed your lighting, so how could we tell you that?

Speaker 7 It looked like you were on a play stage before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you changed your lighting. You were looking at the lighting.
No, I didn't change anything. Well, something changed.
Something changed. You look different.
I'm at the developing room.

Speaker 6 I'm at Scully's right now, and I think they're getting ready for sound check right now. Here we go.
That's better. Now I'm in heaven.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Heaven? Hell.
It didn't change.

Speaker 1 You were looking not like that, and then something changed with the lighting. All right, my Fire Fest.
I got an easy one. My son pissed on me.
That was all. So that was fun.
He pissed on me.

Speaker 1 We were playing swords, and he pissed across the toilet all over my leg.

Speaker 1 But that's the game. Listen, when you get in between the lines and you're playing swords with your son, you got to expect that to happen from time to time.
Sword fight.

Speaker 6 I literally was sword fights are dangerous.

Speaker 1 We started the sword fight and then all of a sudden I was like, why is my whole entire leg feel wet? And I looked down and he was just peeing all over me.

Speaker 6 I think that means he won the sword fight. Easily, easily.

Speaker 1 Total alpha move. Total alpha move.
But yeah, you got to be able, you got to play swords with your kid. Come on.
It's fun.

Speaker 1 It's just like, you know, because usually I do win, but this one, he's changed the game.

Speaker 1 And credit to me, I didn't pee on him.

Speaker 7 I was going to say, I feel like you were thinking about it.

Speaker 1 Thought crossed my mind. Thought crossed my mind, but I figured, you know what? Let's just let's let's play it.
Let's play this the right way, chalk it up to a loss, move on, play another game.

Speaker 1 All right, Huey, you want to finish this off? Yeah, my Firefest is doing laundry. Oh, specifically mine.

Speaker 1 So I have, so the apartment I'm in right now, the type of, I don't have a washer-dryer in my place.

Speaker 1 It's four stories down.

Speaker 1 and in a different place. So I have to share that laundry room with three other units.

Speaker 1 How many machines? It's just one washer, one dryer. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's in a different hallway. It's in a, so it's like a four stories down in different stairs.
Is there an elevator? No.

Speaker 6 But it's a different set of staircases.

Speaker 1 It's like in the back, so it's like darker. And like, there's no, there's no windows out there.
It's just one light at the bottom, one light at the top.

Speaker 7 Sounds like a basement.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's essentially what I'm going into. And there's spiders all the way up and down the wall.
Okay. It's just, it's, I'm afraid to go down there.

Speaker 7 So you have no clean laundry.

Speaker 1 So I'm running low on clean laundry now because it's been two weeks. It's, you know, running low out of everything.
So I bought new clothes,

Speaker 1 bought just, you know, essential stuff, found some DraftKing shirts, you know, in the other room in the gambling cave. So that's going to help.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hughie, you can go to my office, pick whatever you want. All right.
I mean, you shouldn't say that out loud. Nope, I just did.
All right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah, we got new stuff.
I had new stuff coming anyway, so it wasn't the end of the world. But I think

Speaker 1 I have a new place set on the back end of Grit Week. Oh, you're moving? Yeah, I got a washer and dryer there, and it's my own.
Good. So I got a whole plan of doing big laundry for one weekend.

Speaker 1 It's going to be awesome. Excited for that one.

Speaker 6 That's like your strategy for no clean laundry seems to just be like only buy new clothes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's a total dude's rock moment.
Like there were spiders in the hallway, so I just got new clothes. And when he says he bought new clothes, I feel like I bought socks.

Speaker 1 Okay, but a lot of the clothes came from the gambling cage. Yeah, it just came from this office.

Speaker 1 A lot of stuff was getting delivered here. Yeah, yeah.
I did have some Amazon stuff. I got some shampoo.
I mean, we're rocking and rolling now. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 he's just going to, Huey's going to be a walking billboard for us. I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.
Grit week starts Sunday night. We're traveling.
We'll be visiting a bunch of different camps. We're very excited.

Speaker 1 Uh, we also will have a meet and greet that we'll let everyone know about when we get it set. Uh, so good show, grit week, excited to get back all of us together.
Uh, let's do numbers: 20, 8, 42, 12.

Speaker 1 You want to do 56?

Speaker 6 I want to do 56. Yeah,

Speaker 1 56. Well, no, now, what if it's eight? Three.

Speaker 6 It's not, it's not gonna be eight,

Speaker 6 it's gonna be 56. I promise

Speaker 6 Twenty-one

Speaker 1 forty-three.

Speaker 1 Forty-three.

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Speaker 6 Day on

Speaker 6 me.

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Speaker 6 Drink on me.

Speaker 6 Dreams have been singing easy on.

Speaker 6 Just play my birthday.

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Speaker 6 Looking for the right light. Take

Speaker 6 on me.

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Speaker 6 on me.

Speaker 6 Take on me.

Speaker 6 Take on the island.

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Speaker 6 Take on the island.

Speaker 6 Take on the

Speaker 6 baby.

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