John Elway, Mt Rushmore Of After School Snacks, Olympics Are Here And Team USA (Most Of Them) Played Their First Game

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we have an awesome, awesome, awesome interview with the legend himself, John Elway.

Speaker 1 I was teasing it on Twitter today, PFT, and I said that it was one of those interviews that we don't do it very often, but like I was legitimately starstruck. He's a legend.
It's John Elway.

Speaker 2 He was football.

Speaker 1 He was part of some of the most iconic games, plays, Super Bowls, college games ever.

Speaker 1 So, and we talked to everything. He literally got the whole interview.
He was cool with us. We even talked about Paxton Lynch.
So, awesome interview. We're going to talk a little about Olympics.

Speaker 1 Team USA had their first official game of the Olympics.

Speaker 1 Hank is on vacation, but he is going to join us for some Jason Tatum talk. And then we do a very fun Mount Rushmore.
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Oh, Hank.

Speaker 2 I thought he was going to join us.

Speaker 1 He's going to join us. Hank.
You're not joining us yet.

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Speaker 1 And then after the John Elway interview will be our Mount Rushmore, which is a very fun one. Mount Rushmore of after-school snacks.
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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, July 29th, and PFT football is back.

Speaker 2 What a great weekend. It was back together weekend for the NFL.

Speaker 1 It is back. No, what I'm talking about now, I know that preseason doesn't matter anymore, and I know the Hall of Fame game on Thursday.

Speaker 1 There will probably be no starters playing, but this is the beginning. of the first week where every single week for the next 26 weeks, we will have football on our TV.

Speaker 1 And And again, I know that there's not going to be actual

Speaker 1 starters playing on Thursday night, but seeing the helmets, seeing the ball, seeing the field, football is back.

Speaker 2 We're going to get to see the kickoffs. See the kickoffs?

Speaker 2 No, it was back together weekend. I don't know if you saw that, but the NFL was making a real hard push to call this back together weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jim Merce came to a first practice.

Speaker 1 First time being seen in public since December.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's good to see every team. You get all the little nuggets.

Speaker 2 Most of them don't make any difference whatsoever, but you get get to see like a new quarterback making an easy pass and be like, damn, that spiral looks tight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Daniel Jones missing Malik Neighbors.

Speaker 2 Missing Malik Neighbors. I saw that one.
I saw one where he did complete a pass down the sidelines to Middle Egg Neighbors who only got one foot in.

Speaker 2 And then they put that out as like, we got ourselves a weapon. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just the social media from the first weekend of the NFL being back is awesome because every team, you think that you're going to be like 10 wins.

Speaker 2 I can talk myself into 10 wins for any team except for maybe

Speaker 2 not the Panthers. Yeah.
But like, it's, I do feel like I have a renewed sense of optimism. Yes.

Speaker 1 Football season, baby. Jaden Daniels looks good.

Speaker 2 Jayden Daniels looks awesome.

Speaker 2 And then do you think we'll get to see any Caleb?

Speaker 1 No, I don't think so. But it doesn't matter.
It's about seeing on the TV, the graphic, the kickoff, the helmets. Oh, yeah.
I'm going to watch

Speaker 1 maybe three minutes of it.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, I'm going to watch a lot of it, and we're going to get to see probably a new score bug that we all get to complain about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's all sorts of cool stuff that goes in with starting a new league year. And man, I feel like this was a long offseason, but we're back, baby.

Speaker 1 It did feel like the longest offseason. We will also probably get to see a little Tyson Bajant, which would be awesome.

Speaker 2 That'll be great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He said that he was so locked in. He doesn't give a fuck about bringing in, you know, whether there was going to be someone who was brought in or not as a competitive backup.

Speaker 1 He said he's been grinding his absolute face off. I love that.
He doesn't even know. I love that.

Speaker 2 We're also going to get, for the first time this year, in-game coach interviews. Yeah.
Like on the sidelines. Florio just reported that.

Speaker 2 It had something to do with the NFL trial for Sunday ticket, and the judge was like, You need to make this more fan-friendly. I know what we'll do.
In-game interviews with coaches, who I'm sure

Speaker 2 will really give a lot of good nuggets for all the fans watching at home.

Speaker 1 Guys who don't want to be interviewed, being forced to interview. Yeah, you want to see go wrong.

Speaker 2 You want to see Jim Harbaugh talk on camera for five seconds, a half?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That'll do it.
Yeah, this will do it. But yeah, football is back.
Feels good to have football back. Now,

Speaker 1 this week, like we said, is a little bit of a different week. Hank's on vacation.
Max's on vacation. PFT, you're about to head out.
We have the Takeys on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 We have a great interview coming Friday. We'll do a Zoom intro, and also probably my favorite Mount Rushmore we've done of the season thus far.
But we have

Speaker 1 Hank

Speaker 1 here on Zoom because U.S. men's basketball team played their first game today.

Speaker 1 Well, some of them played their first game.

Speaker 2 Tyrese Halliburton didn't get in, but I mean, no one expected him to get in.

Speaker 1 It's not like he's a top five player. Yeah, so 10 of the 12 guys played their first game.

Speaker 1 Very noticeably absent was one Jason Tatum, who afterwards was asked if he's sick or hurt. He said, no, I'm fine.
Did not play a single minute. Henry,

Speaker 1 what are your thoughts?

Speaker 7 Steve Curry is a piece of shit.

Speaker 7 That's really what this all boils down to. Jason Tatum did have a better plus-minus than Joel Embiid.
So

Speaker 1 that's true.

Speaker 1 Which Max is in Paris right now, and we have a video. We asked him to record a video message addressing the fact that Joel Embiid was simply horrendous in this game.

Speaker 1 I think the stats were, I have them right here.

Speaker 1 They were

Speaker 1 with Joel Embiid playing, they were minus eight. Without him playing, they were plus 34.

Speaker 2 And they were booing the shit out of him, too. The French fans don't like Joel Embiid because they offered him a passport back like two years ago, I think.

Speaker 1 Burned him.

Speaker 2 Because they were like, we want to get Wimby, we want to get Gay, and we want to get Joelle Embiid to play and just go with a monster, like Monsters lineup, essentially.

Speaker 2 And Embiid said, no, I'm going to.

Speaker 1 Wade, Gobert.

Speaker 2 Gay? Not Gay. Yeah, Gobert.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, Rudy. A is French?

Speaker 2 The other Rudy. I think if your name is Rudy, you have a French passport.
But no, I was like,

Speaker 1 is Rudy Gay going to be...

Speaker 1 Because Rudy Gay is one of those guys that he was like a creative player, the perfect size everything, and he just, for some reason, it was never like what he was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 But if you told me he was going to be playing in these Olympics, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. He's still around.
For France. Him and O.J.
Mayo. Him and O.J.
Mayo. I'm like, yeah,

Speaker 1 they'll be great.

Speaker 7 Great in 2K.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I feel like France, they're pissed off at Joel MB just like everybody else, except for Philly fans are. And even they hate him sometimes.

Speaker 2 But yeah, Hank, that's a good spin zone where it's like, it could have been worse. He could have played in stunk.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But he was, you could see him on the sidelines and he wasn't, he didn't seem like he was super locked in or super happy when we were doing, like, if you're an injured player on the sidelines, you clap that shit up.

Speaker 2 You know, you root your guys on. But if you're just upset that you're not in, and maybe Steve Kerr is doing this on purpose.
Yeah. Maybe Steve Kerr's trying to stop the dynasty before it starts.

Speaker 7 No, see, that's what I appreciate about Steve Curry, even though he's a classless piece of shit. Jason Tatum was there last Olympics.
He led the team to a gold medal. LeBron wasn't there.

Speaker 7 Steph Curry wasn't there. Joel Biade wasn't there.
Yet, somehow, Jolen Biad starting this game, he's the worst player on the fucking team, probably in the whole Olympics.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 also,

Speaker 7 screaming. I shouldn't be screaming.
They glossed over, they didn't put Jalen Brown on the team.

Speaker 7 And now, this, the Celtics are going to be the most motivated championship-winning team of all time coming into next year.

Speaker 7 It's going to be great for Jason Tatum to be back on a team in an organization that actually appreciates him. So, in a way, I'm happy that Steve Kerr did what he did, even though he's a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 Derek White and Drew Holiday did play a lot and they played well.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Question for you, Hank.

Speaker 1 Does Jason Tatum, do you think he took a shower after the game?

Speaker 1 No. Do you think he showered with the boys just to kind of feel some camaraderie?

Speaker 7 No, probably not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 2 So you think he's going to get heavy minutes in the second game?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, Steve Kerr's little excuse after was like, you know,

Speaker 7 with KD coming.

Speaker 1 Thing is, they were up 20. Like,

Speaker 1 all NBA. Not all KD.

Speaker 1 Wait, are you saying Jason Tatum should at least be like a walk-on scrub player?

Speaker 7 Steve Kerrsiddy couldn't find time to put him in or whatever, which is just bullshit.

Speaker 2 Just let him play. What I'm saying is that the team did really, really well without Jason Tatum on the court.

Speaker 1 Also, Kevin Durant was like out of this world good. He started the game eight for eight, could not miss.
So

Speaker 1 you wanted Jason Tatum to play instead of him?

Speaker 7 No, I just think when you have a guy, again, like

Speaker 7 he's put in the time. He's an all-NBA

Speaker 7 first-team player the last two years. He just won an NBA championship.
I think he can find him a couple minutes, like at least mix him in the rotation.

Speaker 7 It's pretty disrespectful not to, but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 But you were saying you would rather you think that he should get the minutes of an NBA Finals MVP guy.

Speaker 7 I never said that. Like, that's literally you just putting words in my mouth.
I never, ever, once said that.

Speaker 2 But Kevin Durant played so well today. You can't take him out when he's shooting that well.

Speaker 1 And he also has one NBA NBA Finals MVP. I think too.
Kevin Durant played phenomenal.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Kevin Durant's an all-time player.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And Kevin Durant has embraced the nickname finally the Slim Reaper.
Yes. Which it's about goddamn time because it's such a good nickname.

Speaker 2 He had the Slim Reaper, he had the tarantula, and he was like, No, I want to be called the servant instead because he didn't feel he was worthy of the nickname. No, this is a Slim Reaper.

Speaker 2 We have Slim Reaper Kevin Durant in these Olympics. Yes.

Speaker 1 And he, yeah, he was incredible.

Speaker 1 I mean, he does play well on super teams. Yeah, it's true.
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 It's true.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, any other comments from vacation? Because this had to have, you know, you're on vacation. You deserve your vacation.

Speaker 1 To then see this happen, you're like, God damn it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to do like 10 minutes of my job today. That's got to be brutal.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I did listen to the podcast earlier, Friday's podcast. I got one minute in before I turned it off.

Speaker 1 Oh, why? Why? We say. We were nice.

Speaker 7 I think you started it by, well, again, because it's like I talk to you guys behind the scenes. I'm like, oh, the the whole family's going to be.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, the Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Wednesday start of a vacation.

Speaker 7 They're all going to get together for the first time, and I don't know how long. Do you mind if I take Wednesday off? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lockwood.

Speaker 7 No problem. Do what you got to do.

Speaker 1 Like, no worries.

Speaker 7 And then I listen to the podcast, and it's like, well, Hank's not here.

Speaker 1 He fucking took a vacation with me. I mean, the Lockwoods start their vacations on Wednesdays.
Yeah. Do you not regret going even earlier?

Speaker 7 Plan their vacation around the vacation you planned that you're not even taking.

Speaker 2 You should have gone earlier, Hank. You should have taken two weeks.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I might just not, you know, I might just stay out here.

Speaker 1 Well, the good news is you are going to make it back next week for us to golf.

Speaker 7 Which I didn't plan for the record.

Speaker 1 Well, you did.

Speaker 7 Well, I am planning it now, but you set it up.

Speaker 1 I know you set it all up. No, you said it up.
You said, do you want to play golf? And I said, sure.

Speaker 7 Oh, on Friday.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I thought you were talking about a great week. Well, yeah, this is your, you planned this vacation week, big cat.

Speaker 1 I know. And I had circumstances that made me not take a vacation.
I, but I planned this vacation week,

Speaker 7 right? And then I was like, hey, like, I know we planned this vacation week. My family's getting together.
Do you mind if I take Wednesday? I was like, yeah, no problem. Do it.

Speaker 1 Of course. Is that how we say that? No, I'm just happy that you're happy, Hank.

Speaker 2 Because I'm looking forward to you getting back in the best of moods. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And hopefully Jason Tatum plays at least a minute before you get back.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I hope so.

Speaker 2 This is kind of like a big vacation for Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. He's going over to France.
He's getting an all-expensive paid vacation to France.

Speaker 2 His week has been the exact same as Max's. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Probably down to how many crepes they've been eating. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, Hank.
Well, any other last words on Jason Tatum? Good job to Derek White and Drew Holiday.

Speaker 7 Yeah, love those guys. Miss you guys.
I miss you guys a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was fun seeing you. You will be part of Mount Rush where we taped those last week.
So

Speaker 1 you'll still hear from Hank, but we had to at least check in on. Oh, and oh, you also turned it off because the aura conversation came back.

Speaker 7 I don't even think I made it that far.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the aura came. Well, conversation.

Speaker 2 And I discussed it, and let's be honest, given what happened today, he lost 1,000 aura. You can't wake up.

Speaker 7 Also, you guys didn't.

Speaker 2 No. His aura is at all-time lows right now.

Speaker 1 You can't. I can't see him on the bench.

Speaker 1 He was on the bench sulking. Actually,

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 This is where you're wrong. Okay.

Speaker 7 I'm screaming again.

Speaker 1 Don't wake the baby. Don't wake the baby.

Speaker 1 Hank's a father.

Speaker 1 No, it's his name. Double uncle.

Speaker 1 Oh, double. double uncle.
Double uncle.

Speaker 2 What's that?

Speaker 7 I have a niece and a nephew.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 Still just a single uncle. Both.
Uncle of two.

Speaker 7 The clip of him shaking his head and chewing the gum on the bench is like, that's an aura clip.

Speaker 1 That's a

Speaker 7 when he drops 40, like when he, like, that's a, when he fucking drops 60 on Steve Kerr's dumbass face next year.

Speaker 1 Okay. Aura.

Speaker 2 All right. So, Hank, is this is this considered aura?

Speaker 1 When

Speaker 2 trusted Twitter account NBA Cental tweets out Jason Tatum passed 300 Gatorade cups to his teammates, breaking Thanasis Antitokomco's record.

Speaker 2 And then Gatorade replies and says, man of the people, and then quickly deletes it because Jason Tatum is a Gatorade athlete. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's making fun of Jason Tatum.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Gatorade fucking sucks, too. I like body armor.

Speaker 1 Okay, fair point.

Speaker 6 Yeah, good point.

Speaker 1 Facts.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, Hank, thank you. And we'll see you in a few days.

Speaker 7 Yeah, see you Friday. I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, for the golf.

Speaker 1 Bye, Hank. Bye, Hank.
Bye. Okay, that was Henry Lockwood, our good friend.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Jason Tatum did look sad.

Speaker 2 He looked very sad. And I like to just imagine Hank watching the game and being like, okay, here to support my country.
Jason's going to get in soon. Yeah.
And then the first quarter's over.

Speaker 2 Well, Jason's got to get in and start the second quarter. And then at what point do you just opt out of the game?

Speaker 1 I mean, Derek White and Drew Holiday did play well, but it is Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 Now that Hank is not on, I actually will back him. Like, what the fuck is Steve Kerr doing? It's a weird move.
Just put him in for five minutes just so that you can, so it's not a story right now.

Speaker 2 It's a very strange move. And maybe he's going to go with a completely different rotation in game two and have Tatum play like the entire time and have somebody else sit out for most of the game.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know what Steve Kerr's up to, but it would be awesome if Steve Kerr was just trying to fuck with the Celtics' chemistry right now and just piss off their star player.

Speaker 1 It was fun watching this team play because

Speaker 1 they're just so loaded. Like watching LeBron throw Alley Oops to Anthony Edwards is just fun.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I loved LeBron was pissed off today, too. Yeah.
We got old school angry LeBron, which is nice to see. And yeah, it made Jokic look human at times.

Speaker 2 Although Jokic got whatever he wanted when he was posting up. You can't stop that.

Speaker 1 And he also is playing with, you know, I mean, there's, I think Jovich is on an NBA roster, but there's not like, he's not playing with the guys that LeBron's playing. Yeah.
It's not really fair.

Speaker 2 You think Jokic is going to stop by the equestrian competition for a while? He's got to.

Speaker 1 He's checking. He's got some horses.

Speaker 2 He's probably living with the horses. He's always sleeping in the stables.

Speaker 1 Memes was watching it today, and he was like getting a little horny. About the horses? No, the women.
Okay.

Speaker 2 That's better than I thought. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You get to

Speaker 2 the crazy horse girls memes?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I found out you could bet on it.

Speaker 1 It's called Dressage. Yeah, Dressage.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's where the horses do they crip walk.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Either way,

Speaker 2 the Olympics have started.

Speaker 1 It was a wild opening ceremony that I think they've deleted from the internet because it was getting some backlash.

Speaker 2 It was weird. The Olympics are very strange about rights, though.
I know every year they will come at ⁇ they shut down Twitter accounts left and right for posting the highlights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm saying like the actual Olympics, I think they ⁇ because the opening ceremonies were ⁇ it was basically watching a boat go by and then

Speaker 1 like a fever dream

Speaker 1 episode or Zoolander. That was what it was.

Speaker 1 It was just like guys and girls walking up and down a rain-drenched runway and then be like, oh, and there is Finland.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was very strange. There was that one part where there was a lady that was holding her head.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then she started singing, and then Gojira, the heavy metal band, started absolutely rocking out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That part was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 And then the blue guy, and then

Speaker 1 the blue guy was weird. Then they had the horse in the river, the white horse.
That was kind of cool. Then they lit the flame, but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Olympic flame, but it really wasn't. It was a balloon.

Speaker 2 It was a balloon that went up in the air. Yeah, they had Rafa Nadal carry the torch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was very bizarre.

Speaker 2 Maybe the most cuck behavior that I've ever seen to have one of your country's rivals as like a prominent figure at the very end. It's like, wasn't Chicago supposed to get the Olympics?

Speaker 1 We were in the running for these Olympics. Thank God we didn't get them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that would be like having Aaron Rodgers or Miss O'Leary's Cow gets to light the torch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very, very bizarre.

Speaker 1 I guess because he is like always wins the French Open. Yeah.
That's it?

Speaker 2 That's it. Yeah.
He's a French national hero.

Speaker 1 I guess he is kind of like part of French history. Yeah.
He just wins the French Open. I think that maybe that's what it was.

Speaker 2 Like Vietnam gets the Olympics. We're going to have Sylvester Stallone with the torch for his work in Rambo.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I enjoyed it, but it was also very bizarre at times. Then we also had the picture of LeBron on the boat, which was sick.

Speaker 2 That was a cool picture. Yeah.
It looked like Washington Cross in the Delaware. Yeah.
Just leading the charge. Him and was it?

Speaker 1 Coco Goff, right? Coco Goff.

Speaker 2 The other flag bearer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I get sick of all the countries, though. There's too many countries.
There's a lot of countries. Can we make less countries in the world?

Speaker 1 Well, it also kind of sucks when you don't have enough athletes. You had to share the boat with like three other countries.
Yeah, that's that was a little bit of a cuck behavior.

Speaker 2 That's that's really rough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. What else in the sports world?

Speaker 1 We have MLB trade deadline is this week.

Speaker 2 Hot stove week.

Speaker 1 Hot stove week. The Yankees made a move.
The Cubs made a move, who are not buyers.

Speaker 2 The Mariners made a move.

Speaker 1 Mariners made a move.

Speaker 2 I feel like the Mariners could do something. Yeah,

Speaker 2 they've got good pitching.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're a good team. I mean, they've never done anything, but they're a good team.

Speaker 2 They've got good pitching. Now maybe they have some hitting.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Cubs move was more, was very much,

Speaker 1 some people are upset because it looks like they're buyers. They got Paretas from the Rays, who is under contract for three years.
So I kind of like it because it's not.

Speaker 2 It's not a rental.

Speaker 1 There's no rentals. If they did a rental, I'd be very upset.
It's trying to build, basically like get early into free agency. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but yeah, there's we got we got who jazz is on the Yankees now.

Speaker 1 Jazz Chisholm? Jazz Chisholm.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm familiar with his name.

Speaker 1 I just saw a bunch of Yankees fans being like,

Speaker 1 he doesn't solve a lot of problems, but his name is really cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was that.

Speaker 1 And that is true.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was that great. Do you see that catch in the outfield that wasn't in the Red Sox Yankees game this weekend? No.

Speaker 2 The dude jumped into the stands, caught the ball, and as he's falling, the right fielder, as he's falling into the crowd, he bumps his glove on a Yankee fan. The ball drops, and it's a home run.
Who?

Speaker 2 It is fucking wild.

Speaker 1 That is wild. Have the Mets done anything,

Speaker 8 memes? The Mets trade for Jesse Winker

Speaker 8 from the Nationals. And then they also got a pitcher who got lit up today.

Speaker 1 Ryan Stanick. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Austin Riley Pimped one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think the, oh, Max had his moment where he thought he was getting Mike Trout, which was fun.
Yeah. The Phillies, Jeff Passon, tweeted that the Phillies traded like their top two prospects

Speaker 1 to the Angels for help, and it was, I think, just a pitcher they got.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's Mike Trout. I don't know if he would want to play in Philly.
I think he'd want to. He likes football season too much.

Speaker 1 I think he'd be like, great, I've been wearing a Phillies jersey underneath my Angels jersey every game.

Speaker 2 I think he loves Philadelphia, but there's probably something nice to him about just not having to worry about expectations at all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I know what's going to happen, by the way.

Speaker 1 The Cubs just getting any name, new name in the trade deadline, even though it's not a rental, I'm going to convince myself, like, oh, they might get hot.

Speaker 2 I mean, you just get in the playoffs. Pinching is good.
Weird shit happens in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I forgot to say, we, so Embiid was the other story from the basketball game, and we had Max send us a video because he's in Europe.

Speaker 1 We didn't want him to zoom in. It's like four in the morning there, but we asked Max to please address the fact that Embiid sucks.
So here's Max.

Speaker 10 All right, I'm here in Paris.

Speaker 1 Nice game award match.

Speaker 10 And Bed may not have had his best game,

Speaker 10 but I didn't watch it because I was in my French hotel, and for some reason, they were playing men's French volleyball.

Speaker 10 So I don't really know what to say. All I can really say is...

Speaker 11 They at least played the game.

Speaker 10 You got to give someone credit for wanting to go out there and represent the country of the USA. Can't say that about everyone else on the court.
Can't say that about everyone else on the court.

Speaker 10 And he's got to shoot more. And And Joker's had a much worse half in the second half than he did in the first half.
So there are positives. We can build off this.
It's just game one.

Speaker 10 It's a long tournament.

Speaker 11 Embiid will be the elite self that he is.

Speaker 10 We'll be fine. Jason Tatum sucks.
No worries.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's not really a long term. It's two weeks.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this is one of those times, BFT, where I realize it just pays to be us and such tremendous losers because we're making Hank and Max answer for their players.

Speaker 1 Hank has three players from his team

Speaker 1 on the court, but we're making them answer for their players sucking when we wouldn't even come close to even coming close to having a guy on the court of our teams.

Speaker 2 And so I pointed out, I made a meme.

Speaker 1 Actually, Josh Giddy was really awesome for Australia. He was.

Speaker 2 I made a meme earlier, and it was the Drake when he was wearing the UK, the Kentucky outfit, and people said, bro, thinks he's on the team. It was Jason Tatum just on the sidelines wearing Team USA.

Speaker 2 He thinks he's on the team. Somebody responded to me and they said, can you even name your top five wizards in franchise history? And that, I thought about it.
I was like,

Speaker 2 this is actually a fair point.

Speaker 2 It's a good problem to have, I guess.

Speaker 2 But what we've successfully done is Hank and Max are so beaten down by us going after Tatum's aura, which is a made-up thing that doesn't actually exist, but it pisses him off.

Speaker 2 And then Embiid not winning championships, they're so mad about that that they just turn on each other instead. So Max's whole whole thing was just like Jason Tatum wasn't on the court.

Speaker 2 He has no aura, at least Embiid was on the court. Yeah.
And Hank's whole thing was at least he didn't get on the court and embarrass himself like Embiid.

Speaker 2 So we've done a great job as puppet masters having our little marionette.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 They should turn on us and unite to fight against us, but they're just at each other's throats, which is beautiful.

Speaker 1 We can't let them ever figure out that they could fight against us.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Because once that day happens, like if they unionize against us, we're fucked.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but

Speaker 2 they also naturally hate each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they they hate each other. And I mean, it's one of those things that when we, if you just put us in the arena with either of them in a debate, it just falls apart very quickly for them.

Speaker 2 So there was one other thing about the Olympics that I wanted to make note of, and that was... Did you see the Bob the Capcatcher guy?

Speaker 1 Awesome.

Speaker 2 Okay, so Bob the Cap Catcher, one of the swimmers lost her swim cap in the pool.

Speaker 2 They had to delay the start of the next race because there was a swim cap on the bottom of the pool, and the swimmers aren't allowed to get in there and get it out themselves.

Speaker 2 So they call this random dude dude out. They said he's an Olympic official.
He comes out wearing a multicolored Speed-O, and he's got, I guess, dad bod would be a fair way to describe his body. Yes.

Speaker 2 He doesn't look like an Olympic athlete.

Speaker 2 He's not in bad shape, but he's not like.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have Olympic body. Yeah, it's not chiseled out of marble.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And so Bob comes out in a speed-oh, dives in, gets the cap, goes to the sideline, holds it up.
The announcers go nuts for him. It was a very cool moment.
But then I started to think about it.

Speaker 1 Are we being played? Why?

Speaker 2 Should we stay woke on Bob the capcatcher is just a viral moment that they were trying to a viral moment planted or maybe he's maybe he's like working for a an advertising firm and he's like a mascot of some company are they trying to are they trying to incept us into viral moments do they name dudes bob in france that's a that's a great point i think it would just be robert it'd be robert yeah yeah

Speaker 1 there's no way there's anyone in france

Speaker 1 That's a French national that's Bob. Bob.

Speaker 2 No, no, it's Robert. Yeah.
It would be Robert, and they would never dream of shortening it to Rob. And they had the fucking minions in the opening ceremony doing advertising work for Disney.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, Peyton Manning just being on the opening ceremony. That was weird.
Yeah. I was just watching it.
Is that Peyton Manning's voice?

Speaker 2 I don't want to share my football players with the rest of the world. No.
They don't get to know about all the cool stuff that we watch that they don't get to watch.

Speaker 1 I do like the fact the Olympics, though, because there's so many sports, they really have to stretch it thin on announcers. So you had Peyton Manning.
I think Kelly Clarkson was on it.

Speaker 1 Dwayne Wade did the USA game today. Dwayne Wade,

Speaker 1 I thought he did a fine job. You don't need a catchphrase for every moment.
He was trying to do, and if he does his pronouns or he, him for LeBron one more time, I'm going to put a bullet in my head.

Speaker 2 It was bad.

Speaker 1 He's done that so many goddamn times.

Speaker 2 That part was really good.

Speaker 1 He has one good line, and he's like, I'm just going to fucking keep doing it.

Speaker 2 I feel like they'll get better. They did an okay job.

Speaker 1 No, I thought

Speaker 1 in totality was fine. It's more that like you could tell he's trying to do catchphrases on every moment.
It's like, it's fine. We're good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Noah Eagle, like, I don't know how his voice sounds like he's been doing it for 50 years, but it's insane.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a big game voice. Yeah.
And then Mike Torico was doing the opening ceremonies. To me, that feels like that would be a very hard thing to announce.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like all the countries and shit and getting all the timing right. And meanwhile, you feel like you're on acid because you have a horse running across the water.

Speaker 1 And Peyton Manning and Kelly Clarkson sitting on either side of you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They bring out the weirdest celebrities for the Olympics. Yeah.
It's really strange how they go. The people with like the highest Q scores that were super popular 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 It is. So yeah, that's the Olympics.
We'll talk about more Olympics as the games progress. I think we've we already won a gold medal, right? Yeah, we got a gold.
Got a gold in the 100-meter? Yeah.

Speaker 1 El Dressel, recurring guest. That's right, yeah.

Speaker 2 Great dude.

Speaker 1 So was he the guy that we got into the debate with over whether the pool was blue or the waters blue? I believe so.

Speaker 2 What did we figure out about that?

Speaker 1 I don't think we got an answer to it.

Speaker 1 We got to restart that.

Speaker 1 Oh, here's the medals race. Okay.

Speaker 2 USA. Oh, we have won.

Speaker 1 Where did we get all our golds? Did we dominate the Summer Olympics? It's a fucking joke. These guys try so hard.

Speaker 2 The swimming events?

Speaker 1 I think it was swimming. I think we won.
Oh, we won fence. We won a golden fencing? Shout out J-O-C.
He laid the groundwork. Yeah, swimming.
Katie Ludecki finished third, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was that was tough to watch. That's bad.
Uh, did you see the Taiwanese diver that landed on his back?

Speaker 1 No, that dude rocks. I gotta see that.
That's the other thing, is like you said,

Speaker 1 they don't let you share highlights. Yeah, so it's like you can't really see anything, you just got to be tuned in.

Speaker 1 Well, that one that's what they're trying to do, but it would be nice to be able to see some highlights.

Speaker 2 I think that the U.S. women's rugby could win the gold medal because they've got Ilona Mayer, who she had two all-time truck stick runs.
She's like

Speaker 2 Lady Rob Gronkowski. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 I think it was a top play on Sports Center tonight, but she's fucking awesome. She's just a tank running people over.

Speaker 1 So maybe we'll get a gold medal from that in rugby.

Speaker 2 I'll count that as just rugby being back if her ladies can get one.

Speaker 1 Olympics are fun. Olympics are fun.
Free sports. All right, wait.
Oh, it was.

Speaker 1 It was the was it a Taiwanese or was it

Speaker 1 the Philip?

Speaker 1 It was a Filipino diver? Yeah. The guy who just like smashes back.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 That was sick. And then South Sudan won in basketball.
Shout out Lou Aldang.

Speaker 1 Lou Aldang's got that program going the right direction. We got to play him on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Anything else sports-wise?

Speaker 1 Reminder, again, takeies are on Wednesday. Great takeies coming up.
28 awards. Very excited for that.
All right, let's do who's back of the week.

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Speaker 1 It's back of the week. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore on the other side of the John Elway interview.

Speaker 1 Like I said, when Hank was on, Hank and Max, we already recorded that, so they will will be part of it. They're not going to miss Mount Rushmore.
Afterschool snacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, after school snacks, which was very funny.

Speaker 1 PFT, your who's back of the week.

Speaker 2 My who's back of the week is Spygate. Oh.
But this time it's Canadian.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 The Canadian women's soccer team has sent their coach home. Their assistant coach and technical analyst have also been sent home.

Speaker 2 They have been docked six points in the group stage, which is equivalent to two wins.

Speaker 1 So they're out. No, they're not out.

Speaker 1 But six points is they're going to be out.

Speaker 2 They won their first two games.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they're back to zero?

Speaker 2 So if they win their third game, I think they qualify for the next round. Wow.
They have to win all three. But their coach, it was against New Zealand.

Speaker 2 So New Zealand was practicing, and the coach hears like a whirr in the background. He looks up in the sky.
There's a fucking drone there.

Speaker 2 It's like one of those Ukrainian-Russian videos that they force feed us on Twitter now. But he sees the drone, notifies the people at the Olympics.
The officials look into it. They find the footage.

Speaker 2 It's a Canadian drone, and apparently they've been doing this

Speaker 2 going back years, back in like World Cups. They've been spygating on people's practices.
Wow. So they got caught, but then now they're on a fuck U-tour, and they're beating everybody.

Speaker 2 So if they win their next game, I'm pretty sure they automatically qualify for the next one.

Speaker 1 So this is a dumb question.

Speaker 1 What do you spy on for soccer?

Speaker 2 Formations, I guess.

Speaker 1 They're running fast down the field. Yeah, this is.
You want to pass to that person?

Speaker 2 This person's, it looks like they're really, really hurt. Oh, no, wait, they just got up.
They're fine.

Speaker 1 I guess they're set pieces.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you could spy probably on set pieces and just formations. That's probably all you'd get on it.

Speaker 2 And they've been doing this going back years, but it was funny because you could look at where they were alleged to have used the drone and then the result of the game.

Speaker 2 And they were getting their ass kicked with the drone. Oh.
So it wasn't like they were actually

Speaker 2 that much for them. But they still were trying to drone.
They were getting their Obama on.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that.

Speaker 2 If you're not cheating, you're not trying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's also like, I don't know, soccer, drones, just do it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 2 in favor of trying to get an edge wherever you can.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's very,

Speaker 6 like, very brazen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's like, here's a drone over your practice.

Speaker 2 I hope they don't see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. My who's back of the week is Urban Meyer.
Urban Meyer's back.

Speaker 1 I just saw that he has an update to his

Speaker 1 brew house, Urban Meyer's Brew House. He has a Mexican-style lager.
Do you know the name of it?

Speaker 6 No. Oh.

Speaker 2 Triple Aquiz. No.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's called El Lager.

Speaker 1 El. El Lager.
No, E L. Oh, E L.
El Lager.

Speaker 1 That's great. That's great.

Speaker 2 That sounds like what Budweiser would put on wither can of beers, like the NBA does during Hispanic Heritage Month.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. El Lager.
Yeah. But here's the kicker, PFT.

Speaker 2 Don't say kicker around Urban.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 He took a picture from

Speaker 1 with i guess his co-owner some some gentleman at his brew house where they sell el-lager he's wearing the exact same polo as the famous knight and you can't see where his right hand is So Urban Meyer might just be putting his fingers up buttholes again.

Speaker 1 Urban Meyer is probably a swinger.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I can see it. You remember when he was on that boat, right? And he was doing an interview? Oh, yeah.
And that shirtless guy was just walking around in the background? Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's got his, you can't see where his right hand is. And with, he's taking a picture with four gentlemen, and the gentleman to his right has the biggest smile of anyone in the picture.

Speaker 2 He's getting goose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I don't think that's just the L Lager talking. El Lager.

Speaker 2 Where is his brewhouse?

Speaker 1 I think it's in Columbus.

Speaker 1 I might have to stop by. The lager.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be in Columbus on Friday. I might have to.
I'm going to do a little fact-finding tour. Just do an El Lager review.

Speaker 1 I'll do a beer review of El Lager. El Lager.

Speaker 1 I just love it. It's like the laziest name you could come up with.
L.

Speaker 2 Also, the fact that you're calling it L is just red meat for Michigan fans.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Huey, your who's back of the week. My who's back swimming rivalries.

Speaker 14 Oh, I feel like we haven't had a good swimming rivalry since Michael Phelp days and Ryan Lochte.

Speaker 1 Who could forget Ian Crocker?

Speaker 14 You know, Chad LaClaus. Yeah,

Speaker 2 the Torpedo. Yeah, Ian Thorpe.

Speaker 1 Ian Thorpe. Yeah.

Speaker 14 So now Katie Ladecki is having a couple rivalries that have just beat her in the 400-meter. Ariane Titness,

Speaker 2 it's like Christmas, but for Tits.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 14 From Australia.

Speaker 14 She's the Aussie.

Speaker 14 She won the 400-meter by three full seconds.

Speaker 1 That seems like a long time. Yeah, and it's not nothing.
It's not nothing.

Speaker 14 Now, Katie Ladecki is still favored in the 800-meter at a minus 400 and favored in the 1500-meter at a minus 3,500. But, you know, three seconds is three seconds.

Speaker 1 That could be another 100 meters.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to say, I am a fan of Ariarne Titmiss. Titmus.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 The Aussie.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, oh, oh, wait.

Speaker 1 I got a take I'll throw out there about swimming.

Speaker 1 Michael Phelps ruined swimming for me personally. Why? That's true.

Speaker 1 Because he was so goddamn dominant that, and it happened so recently that I'm watching swimming and I'm like, well, Phelps would have beaten all these guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is he, do they do the line where it's like, here's where Phelps would have been?

Speaker 1 They should, because it's like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 We saw it so recently, him just dominate everyone every single year, year after year.

Speaker 1 And then to watch it now, they're still incredible athletes, but it's like michael phelps is in the studio right now like he probably could get in the pool and beat all of you right this second if he wanted to if he had grown up in this era yeah with this technology do we have any i think it needs to be there just needs to be more time or someone needs to start breaking phelps record for me to feel like oh wow this is incredible we're watching because every time i just watch a uh maybe there have been records broken of his but i just watch it i'm like Phelps would have fucking killed him.

Speaker 2 Do we have any good Olympic controversies? It feels like every time there's like a summer Olympic Games, there's a controversy about a new suit somebody's wearing or about

Speaker 2 a new bike helmet.

Speaker 2 And then they go back and they're like, do these records even count because this water was faster?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, the springy track?

Speaker 2 Yeah, the springy track.

Speaker 1 I learned one the other day that's pretty fun. In the Tour de France,

Speaker 1 there's a thing called sticky bottles. Have you ever heard this? No.
So this is like a big cheating thing. There was a guy basically as angry as the Tour de France can get.
That's what it was.

Speaker 1 He confronted a competitor and said,

Speaker 1 You sticky bottled that. It's when the car passes a bottle to the guy who's biking, and the guy who's biking holds onto the bottle for like an extra beat and gets driven by the car.

Speaker 2 Because the guy that's taking the water back

Speaker 2 is pulling him in the car.

Speaker 1 So, like, you'll like they'll pass the they'll pass the bottle out like this,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 they'll grab it and basically like use the push-off. That's smart.
Yeah, sticky bottles. I don't know.
It's just a fun controversy I learned about it.

Speaker 2 Can you draft the car? Can you accidentally swerve in front of the car and let it hit you lightly from behind? I don't think

Speaker 1 I would sticky bottle the fuck out of the tournament.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's just a good idea. I don't blame the cyclists at all.
At least they're not using steroids anymore.

Speaker 1 Well, and they also, the best part about the confrontation that I watched, it wasn't in English, but I saw someone explained it.

Speaker 1 One guy was like, you sticky bottled. And then the other guy was being accused, like, where do you think I learned it? Basically being like, you're the the sticky bottle master.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it takes one to know one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I saw you do it first. Yeah, I do love cyclist fights, too.
Yeah, have you ever seen when they actually like try to throw hands? Yeah, it doesn't work. It's not, it's not really a fight.

Speaker 1 They're in the realm of athletes that as soon as they get in a fight, they just start to try to kick.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and you know that that's just you do like a yeah, like a flying leg kick because then you know at least the fight's over after you do that because somebody will jump on you on the ground and cover you up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, um, all right, good job, Huey. Memes, you got a hue who's back?

Speaker 1 Uh, sure, yeah, uh, Robert Downey Jr.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, he is playing Doctor Doom.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, um, first of all, insult stat that I saw was very mean. They were like Robert Downey Jr.
between the time he was announced as Iron Man and the time he was announced as Doctor Doom.

Speaker 1 The Bears have only won one playoff game. That was mean of that person.
I don't even know what that time frame is. When was it? Well, I do know the time frame because I know how many Bears playoffs.

Speaker 1 2006. Yeah, it was after they've won one game.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 6 what are...

Speaker 1 Explain this to me, memes and PFT.

Speaker 1 He was Iron Man. Yes.

Speaker 1 Is he now Doctor Doom in the same universe? So, like, wouldn't the characters say, hey, dude, aren't you Tony Stark?

Speaker 8 Yeah, so the last Avengers movie, there was the next phase of Marvel, which was the multiverse, where they could go into different...

Speaker 8 There's different versions of each character in different universes. Now, the person, the bad guy they made the entire plot around,

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 14 dozens of movies, beat his girlfriend.

Speaker 1 So now he's out. And Robert Downey Jr., for the record, has never done anything wrong.

Speaker 1 Not recently.

Speaker 2 Not since he's been Iron Man.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, got it. So they are.

Speaker 1 That's a funny little wrinkle.

Speaker 2 Did Marvel just trick America into doing Greek mythology? Because

Speaker 1 I feel like this is our version of Greek mythology, right?

Speaker 2 Like 2,000 years from now, there'll be a society and they're going to unearth all these old Marvel movies and be like, this is what Americans believed in.

Speaker 2 They thought that there was a giant dude that snapped its fingers and would kill everybody.

Speaker 1 And then Ant-Man will be like the weird question, no one gets right. Yeah.
I just love that there's an Ant-Man. They made a movie.
Paul Rudd, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, didn't he fly up some dude's butt? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The minute I saw Ant-Man, I was like, this has gone too far. All right.

Speaker 2 So I can see fifth graders in like the year 4000 studying Marvel and being like, this is what Americans believe.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is what they were up to.
I actually might start because we talked about it on that Mount Rush where things we hadn't seen. I've never seen a Marvel movie.
I might start with Ant-Man.

Speaker 1 Just go from there. Go straight from Ant-Man.

Speaker 2 Go to Ant-Man.

Speaker 1 All right, so back to Dr. Doom, who is, so original Dr.
Doom got in trouble. Robert Downey Jr., squeaky clean.
He takes over Doctor Doom. But again,

Speaker 1 won't people be like, dude, wasn't that Tony Stark?

Speaker 8 Yeah, so the prediction is that he is, this is an alternate universe Tony Stark, who's a bad Iron Man. That's Doctor Doom.

Speaker 2 Oh. So it's like twin brothers.

Speaker 1 So he still is Iron Man. Yes, pretty much.

Speaker 2 Who is Doctor Doom? Dr.

Speaker 1 Doom. Is he related to Big Justice, the Doom and Boom guys?

Speaker 8 No, afraid not. He is the bad guy in Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 So what does he do?

Speaker 1 No relation to the Rizzler. No relation.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Does he have any powers?

Speaker 8 He's just a badass made out of metal.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 And people are excited about this, right? Yeah, people are are pumped. I'm excited about this too.

Speaker 1 Can't wait. Because

Speaker 8 they scrapped everything and then they brought back Robert Downey Jr.

Speaker 1 The Russo brothers are directing it, who directed the last two Avengers.

Speaker 8 Everything's been bad up until this point.

Speaker 1 Wait, it's gone bad?

Speaker 8 Yeah, this last phase of Marvel has been very bad.

Speaker 2 Well, did they run out of source material? Are they still using the comic books?

Speaker 8 They're kind of using the comic books, but they dove into the multiverse, which has just gotten very confusing. And now they're trying to bring it all back and save it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay.

Speaker 2 I can't wait for Dr. Doom.
I'm fucking jazzed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dr. Doom slash Tony Stark.

Speaker 1 Okay. Thanks, meme.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. I'm excited.
I'm excited to not watch it, but I'm excited for other people to be excited. Were people excited? People are pumped.

Speaker 1 He got a big pop. He did.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm excited for people to watch it and then be pissed off about it because they thought it would be good and then it's not good. Yeah, I want to be mad.

Speaker 1 I want people to complain about the casting of a movie. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 That's the best. I'm excited to see people pissed off walking out of movie theaters being like, That was not a realistic portrayal of Doctor Doom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, isn't there a Bob Dylan biopic coming out? People are pissed about that one. Who's playing him? I, I, it's, that's why people are pissed.
Wait, what?

Speaker 2 Who would be the person that would piss off the most people playing? Robert Pattinson?

Speaker 1 No, it's um, it's one of the new guys, the new Timothy Chalamay. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 This is pop culture with PMT.

Speaker 2 We got our finger on the pulse, baby.

Speaker 1 I need my kids to start fucking watching shit that like they can actually help me like be cool again.

Speaker 1 Like Marvel stuff? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's too confusing for me.

Speaker 1 It's way too much.

Speaker 2 After I missed the first like five movies, I was like, I'm just not going to do this.

Speaker 1 We should have Robbie just make us a big chart. If I could see a chart, I think it would help.
But there's been so many movies.

Speaker 2 There's just a timeline of movies when they came out. I also need to...

Speaker 1 We should sneak attack everyone and just go into a bunker and watch every single one and then just come out and just heavy, heavy drops of like, you know, oh, it's like this time in this movie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're like, what the fuck just happened? I've been doing that for the last three episodes. I've been dropping Godfather quotes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I still haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 But you've been looking up the quotes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's get to our interview with John Elway.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 1 It is our Chill Week interviews presented by Coors Light and Chevy Silverado. It is NFL Hall of Famer, John Elway, living legend.

Speaker 1 I got to tell you this, John, just to start. We've been doing this for eight years now.
We've had a ton of different guys come through and great interviews.

Speaker 1 You're up there with like maybe a little nerves because you were such a living legend. Do you realize how much of a living legend you are? No,

Speaker 6 I'm still looking out from these same eyes as I did my whole life. Okay.
So, no, I think that, you know, I was happy to be able to play as long as I played and

Speaker 6 very, very fortunate. But, no, I'm still looking at the same eyes and so enjoying life.
And, you know, glad to be here with you guys.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think what big cats get at, too, and at least for me, is growing up when I fell in love with football, you were football. You were a huge part of the NFL.

Speaker 2 And so those formative years where we fell in love with the game, that was John Elwy. I was watching John Elwee comebacks.

Speaker 1 We're children of the 90s.

Speaker 6 Unfortunately, that's a long time ago. But, you know,

Speaker 6 it was a lot of fun while I played.

Speaker 6 I played in a great era. Danny Marino, Jim Kelly,

Speaker 6 Warren Moon, all those guys. It was Joe Montana.
So, I mean, we had

Speaker 6 a bevy of great quarterbacks back then. It was really special times to play.
You know, obviously they're making a heck of a lot more money now, but I'm not sure I would trade that.

Speaker 6 I really enjoyed playing the time when I played and with the guys I played with.

Speaker 1 Well, have you ever thought about like today's day and age in the NFL? Guys are passing for such insane numbers, what your numbers would have looked like if you were.

Speaker 1 They would have been crazy.

Speaker 6 Not only that,

Speaker 6 I would look at how they get protected now. They get protected a heck of a lot more now than

Speaker 6 we did back when we played. So I think I'd enjoy that even probably more than the money and maybe played a little bit longer.

Speaker 6 but you know the game has just kept growing and growing and you know the players and athletes are getting you're so good now and you know so and with the offenses opening up and the protection you know rules that they're putting in to protect some of the players is I think is all a good thing but you know it just continues to keep growing and growing yeah so so PFT mentioned us falling in love with football in the 90s when when did you fall in love with football I know you're a son of a coach So you were around it your whole life, but when was the first moment where you're like,

Speaker 1 this is the sport I love? Because obviously obviously, we're going to talk about it. You're baseball, you're an incredible baseball player.
But when was it football?

Speaker 6 You know, when I was younger, you know, because my dad was a coach, like you said, so we kind of bounced around. I lived in Missoula, Montana when I was like first through fifth grade.

Speaker 6 So I had to start playing. I played baseball and basketball a lot.

Speaker 6 Tackle football didn't start until I was in the fifth grade. I played one year, fifth grade in Missoula, Montana, was a running back.

Speaker 6 And then we moved from there to Pullman, Washington, at Washington State.

Speaker 6 And they really didn't have, Pullman's not big enough to have really a football, youth football program and so i didn't play a game till the ninth grade excuse me so really my favorite sport when i was younger was basketball really yeah sure you were great too i could shoot but i slowed down fast and then yeah you know but uh and then you know baseball was a big part of that too and so then dad got fired at washington state we moved down to southern california and uh in the sanfernano valley went to granada hills high school and the coach there his name was jack neumeier was kind of the offense was wide open he spread the field with five wides and threw the ball every down.

Speaker 6 And so really, when you talk about when I first fell in love with football, it was my 10th grade year when I started, you know, playing quarterback.

Speaker 6 I played ninth grade year in Pullman, which was a single wing, handed the ball off.

Speaker 6 So it wasn't a whole lot of fun. Yeah.
But then when I got down to California, we started throwing the football all over the place. And that's when, you know, I started loving football.

Speaker 1 You started slinging it. I read a very funny story that in your ninth grade year, when you showed up for the first day of practice, your dad in the car said, what position are you going to play?

Speaker 1 And you said, running back, and he was like, You're not as fast as you used to be, which is an insane thing to say to a 13-year-old.

Speaker 6 Well, we were in an old Chevy Impala, and we pulled up, and exactly, that's exactly what he said. What position are you going out for today?

Speaker 6 I said, Running back, and the car went into park, and 15 minutes later, when I got out of the car, I was a quarterback. But that was one of the

Speaker 6 comments: was the fact is, hey, listen, you're slowing down a little bit.

Speaker 1 Thanks, hey, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 6 You know, you're probably better off trying to play some quarterback. I think you're a better position for you.

Speaker 1 That's, I mean, it's just,

Speaker 1 I guess that speaks to your relationship with your dad. The honesty was there that he could be like, you're not that fast anymore.

Speaker 2 Yeah, how fast were you at 12?

Speaker 6 Yeah. I could, you know, when I was younger, I was faster than everybody, but then everybody caught up, right?

Speaker 6 Especially when you start growing. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You know, they start catching up to you. So, you know, and he had a good feel for it, and I respected him so much.
So, sure enough, I went out for quarterback.

Speaker 6 And, you know, that's one of those forks in the roads. You know, if he, the thing is, they get fired at Washington State, and

Speaker 6 he went for the head job because he graduated from Washington State, went to school there, undergrad. And so, and he was the runner-up for the job.
And thank God he didn't get that job.

Speaker 6 Otherwise, I'd probably have been a baseball player. And because

Speaker 6 the high school ran the single wing, and so it would have never been exposed to what I got exposed to when we went down to Southern California in football. Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, probably a good choice. So when you're playing quarterback,

Speaker 2 you're obviously you had great wheels. You were still fast, even at 13, 14, 15 years old.

Speaker 1 I was as fast as I needed to be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I feel like in that era, coaches were more hesitant to have their quarterbacks run around out there. Maybe it's different in high school where they said, okay, if you see a play, go make a play.

Speaker 2 Or did you ever have a coach,

Speaker 2 whether it be in high school or in college, that was like, hey, John, stop running the ball so much. You're going to get hurt.

Speaker 6 No, I think that they said be smart.

Speaker 6 And the fact that, because that was part of my game. I like to move around and try to make some plays if I had to.

Speaker 6 And, you know, if protection broke down, then I like to get outside and do those type of things. But, you know, they always

Speaker 6 impressed on me that say, hey, listen, get out there and do what you want to do, but just be safe and take care of yourself.

Speaker 6 And so, you know, and back in those days, you know, you could go feet first, right?

Speaker 6 I never went feet first because I always felt more wide open to a hit, you know, a late hit or a cheap hit, you know, a cheap shot that, you know, it knocked me out with me just being.

Speaker 6 exposed like that. So I always tried to go down and just use my head and my shoulders and felt more protected.

Speaker 6 Plus, going down feet first, I've always figured you lost like three yards comparing to going head first. That's true.
I'd just go for their feet and

Speaker 1 do it that way. Yeah, I mean, one of the most iconic plays in NFL history is the helicopter in the Super Bowl against the Packers.
How many times did you...

Speaker 1 Let me first say, when that play is happening, were you like, this is going to, I'm going to get fucking crushed here. It was three Packers coming at you, and you were like, I'm just going head first.

Speaker 6 You know, it's a funny story about that play. It was third and six, and

Speaker 6 we'd run that play all week in practice. And I told Mike Shanahan and Gary Kubiak, who was the offensive coordinator, and I'm like,

Speaker 6 it was set up for a certain defense.

Speaker 6 And I really didn't like the play in practice, but we kept running it. And I kept telling Mike, you know, I really don't like that play.

Speaker 6 And he finally came to me and said, John, against this formation, in this situation, it's 100% we're going to get this coverage. I said, okay, great.

Speaker 6 You know, and I think it was both corners had to be bummed, but safety over the middle, da-da-da-da. I can't remember exactly how it was set up.

Speaker 6 But sure enough, I walked to the line of scrimmage and they're not in that defense.

Speaker 6 So I know I've got nothing. So I just really kind of dropped back and tried to find a team, get outside, try to make a play.
And I looked for the first down marker, and they kind of stayed back.

Speaker 6 And I said, all right, I'm going to turn this thing up and see how far I can get and and then I said all right well I think they they think I'm going down low so I put the big old six inch vertical on them and went right over the

Speaker 1 do you remember like in it being in air being like whoa this

Speaker 6 I got discombobulated because I got spun around and the one thing I do remember is I looked to our sideline and our whole sideline was going nuts and so the adrenaline rush that came from that was I still get chills when I spun up it was one of the coolest plays ever yeah you know what the funny thing is a lot of people think it was for a touchdown it's not it was just for a first down we ended up scoring on that drive, but obviously with where that game ended up, it was a pivotal play.

Speaker 1 You should get residual checks, too, because I feel like the NFL use it in every highlight package for the next 20 years.

Speaker 6 That would be nice if they had those.

Speaker 6 Unfortunately, they don't have those yet. Yeah,

Speaker 2 it was a great game. I remember those two Super Bowls, and one of the key parts of your offensive line, a good friend of ours, Mark Schlareth, comes on the show a lot.

Speaker 2 He was actually my Little League baseball coach. Oh, really? Yes, because he was in D.C., then he went out to Colorado.

Speaker 2 So you signed this, you you know, a good free agent guard coming out from Washington, Super Bowl champion, comes out there.

Speaker 2 You're probably excited to have a great player on your offensive line, but was there a small party that was like, why does this guy just piss on himself all the time?

Speaker 2 This guy just smells stinky.

Speaker 1 I was just really wasn't a center.

Speaker 6 Yeah. You know, because I'd had to put my hands underneath him.

Speaker 6 But yeah, I mean, that was, that was, you know, that's probably why he got the name stink, too, because of the fact that, you know, he would do that. But yeah, it was always amazing to me that

Speaker 1 he would do that. Totally stinking.

Speaker 6 Weirdest segue ever, but we're saying the word stink i read that you also the only sport you ever quit was wrestling in eighth grade because you wrestled against a guy a kid who smelled really bad he smelled really bad so how bad did he smell it was bad you know because my dad always said once you've stirred something you gotta finish it right so he'd never let me quit anything and he said you know and he'd try to say you know i don't think you ought to do this but no dad i want to do it then i get in and realize you know he was right again and but i had to finish it and so and he didn't he wasn't a big fan of wrestling either and so but yeah I had to practice against him every day and you know it wasn't like we were in matches against him it's like I had to wrestle against him every single day so he finally let me and he didn't he smelled really bad

Speaker 1 to where I was gagging I'm like dad I'm gagging I got I can't do this you gotta let me and you told your dad that you're like I listen it's not that I like am not tough enough for it it's like this kid just smells so bad

Speaker 6 I can't I gag while I want to practice until I can't do it anymore he said all right this is the one time I'm gonna let you do it that's incredible he could have gained 10 pounds been outside his weight class you don't have to wrestle it.

Speaker 6 We're the only two biggest guys in the class, so that's why I was stuck with him. The other guys were a little small guys, and so we couldn't.

Speaker 1 So we're talking about your Super Bowls. The crazy part about your career

Speaker 1 is, you know, in sports media, there's the whole can't win the big one. You go to three Super Bowls early in your career, and then it's eight-year gap till you win to to end your career.

Speaker 1 Storybook ending. Like, I think when everyone thinks about like what they want to do to end their career, it's John Elway.
That's what you think of. Back-to-back Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 But in that progression, was there ever a moment where you're like,

Speaker 1 maybe I'm not going to win the big one?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of time in there. I think, obviously, we had really good teams in the 80s.
We weren't good enough. You know, you got to be really, really good to win a championship.

Speaker 6 And I think I found that difference out when we finally won one in the late 90s compared to what we were in the 80s. But yeah, there was a time in those eight years.
We were kind of changing coaches.

Speaker 6 Dan Reeves left, and I think Wade Phillips came in

Speaker 6 and was there for a couple of years. And then Mike Shanhan ended up coming back.

Speaker 6 But there was a dry spell there. You know, we were about 500.
We're still making the playoffs, but didn't have a chance to really compete for a championship. And then when Mike came back in 95,

Speaker 6 you know, we turned things around. Terrell Davis, we drafted Terrell Davis that year.
Mike was

Speaker 6 run with, you know, with play action off that and real good in the past game. So we had a good year in 95.
And then 96,

Speaker 6 we had a really good team. We had the number one seed wrapped up.
We're playing Jacksonville. Jacksonville was coming to Denver.
And,

Speaker 6 you know, we thought, you know, that was the year I'm going, you know, we got a chance to win this. And then we ended up getting beat by Jacksonville upset in the first round.

Speaker 6 And so I think that was the most devastating loss, other than the Super Bowl losses. You know, and then at that point in time, you start wondering, well, what's it going to take?

Speaker 6 And I know, you know, at that point in time, I was 36 years old. And so I was running out of time.

Speaker 6 And so whether we're going to ever be able to get back, but fortunately, we came back and kind of used that the next year

Speaker 6 as an incentive. Yeah, and we went through the hard way, right?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 6 Kansas City won the division. We went in as wild card, really.
And so we, Jacksonville came in the next year, big enough to shut out them.

Speaker 6 And then we had to go to Kansas City and Pittsburgh to get back. And then we're playing the Packers that, you know, we're defending champs.
We're 14-point underdogs, and we're going to that game.

Speaker 6 And I can remember getting on the plane. We're leaving Pittsburgh, going back to Denver.
And

Speaker 6 I get on the plane going back, and I call my mom. I say, Mom, can you believe we get a chance to go back and be world champions again? And there's a long pause.

Speaker 6 And she finally says, do we really have to go back to the Super Bowl again?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it was not good memories the first three times.

Speaker 1 So, do you think the Jaguars, because I've watched some of the NFL film stuff about those Broncos teams, and it feels like that Jaguars loss was almost the reason why you guys were able to get over the hump the next two years because it was a game that you should have won.

Speaker 1 You guys were way better and maybe didn't take them as seriously as you should have. And that's like the last piece of a championship team.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, there's no question it added a lot. I think that it was stuck in everybody's craw for the next year.
And so there's no question that,

Speaker 6 and plus, even going back into the next year, and in 98, when we come back after the Packer game, we knew we were a really good football team.

Speaker 6 And if we, and our attitude was always: if we just go play like we're capable of, we're going to beat everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And that's, you know, and that's that's really fun to be on a team like that, especially if you have a running game like we had and played really good defense. And so that's what happened in 98.

Speaker 6 We were really good in 98, you know, 13-0 until we got beat by the Giants in week 14, I think.

Speaker 6 And so on a late, you know, late bomb to, I can't remember who it was, but, you know, but so then we'd go to Miami, get killed down there, bounce back, and then get through the playoffs.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's stormy.

Speaker 2 So you mentioned the point spread. 14 points in the Super Bowl.
That's a big, big point spread. It really was.

Speaker 2 It must have felt like you against the world. Did you guys use that as motivation? Like, Vegas doesn't believe in us?

Speaker 6 We did. But, you know, and I also think, I think because of

Speaker 6 the trek we made through the playoffs, having to go to Kansas City and having to go to Pittsburgh, two really tough places to play, I think really you know, hardened us.

Speaker 6 And we knew that, again, the Packers were really good. And but if we go out and play like we're capable of, and Mike did a great job, Gary, with the game plan because

Speaker 6 it was a mismatch for us, our whiteouts against their secondary. They were really good in the secondary.

Speaker 6 And so, you know, Mike went in and said, hey, listen, we got to run the football against these guys to be able to win it. Leroy Butler was their strong safety at the time.

Speaker 6 And he always wreaked havoc inside as a free safety. He kind of roamed and did a lot of different things and caused a lot of

Speaker 6 mischief in there. And so we were able to kind of formation him out of that situation and allowed us to

Speaker 6 run the football. And the trail had a great game.
The offensive line up front was tremendous. And this wore those guys down.
They actually put one extra D-lineman down before the game.

Speaker 6 And so, you know, we get into the fourth quarter and we knew we're in pretty good shape when the game was close.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he had big Gilbert Brown, right?

Speaker 1 It was like one and a half defensive lineman at that point.

Speaker 2 He was playing like six on the line at that time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 But I don't think he could take three steps forward in that fourth quarter. He was so tired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably just wear him down.

Speaker 2 You were talking about the hostile environments, like going to Kansas City. I just watched a clip.
I didn't know that you used to be able to tell the referees to quiet the crowd noise down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like when you were backed up in the end zone at Arrowhead, right? You would tell the refs, hey, they're being too loud.

Speaker 2 Then the refs would get on the PA and say, you guys need to shut up or else it's going to be a penalty against the Chiefs. When did that stop?

Speaker 6 That stopped the next year because it didn't work very good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know it was the crowd. And everybody would just get mad about it.

Speaker 6 So, and, you know, and then you got TV worrying about how much time they're taking because they want the game to fit in a three-hour window, right? So

Speaker 6 I remember standing in Kansas City one time for like three minutes just waiting for them to, you know, and as soon as the referee says, be quiet, they're going, they get louder.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 6 So that was in, I think, for one year and then kind of got got out of that.

Speaker 2 So yeah, that was quite a big rule change. Yeah.
I can't imagine that.

Speaker 1 It didn't work until the other one back.

Speaker 6 So it was always, Kansas City was always a tough, tough place to go. It was always very loud, same as it is now.

Speaker 2 And so this might be a tough question, but

Speaker 2 how mad were you that you had to present the Lombardi trophy to the Chiefs this year?

Speaker 6 You know, I wasn't mad. You know, the thing is, I was, I really was pulling for Johnny Lynch, who's a good buddy as a gym with the Niners.

Speaker 6 And then Kyle obviously was running around our practices all the time when he was younger and when Mike was with the Broncos. And so, you know, just the infinity for those guys.

Speaker 6 And, you know, and they'd been there, you know, before and lost one. And so I was really pulling for them.
It was such a tight game. But, you know, you look at Kansas City, Andy Reid and Patrick.

Speaker 6 I think, you know, to me, Andy Reid is kind of one of the unsung heroes as far as a head coach and the credit that he gets being a head coach because he's he's had a tremendous amount of success everywhere he's been.

Speaker 6 And I think we see that with Kansas City now, especially with Patrick and what he's done with Patrick,

Speaker 6 really taking advantage of what he does best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a Raiders fans' worst nightmare. It was in the Raiders stadium, and it was the Chiefs who they are rivals with, and you were there.

Speaker 1 It was basically every bad thing that could ever happen to the Raiders was just all in one spot.

Speaker 1 We just had to watch it all.

Speaker 6 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 I mentioned you're a living legend, which you are.

Speaker 1 I think the craziest part is you are part of two of the most iconic moments drive in football history,

Speaker 1 so much so that they're just called the play and the drive. So I wanted to talk about both of them, the play, the band on the field.

Speaker 1 Have you gotten to a point now where you can be like, that actually was pretty funny?

Speaker 6 Like, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 We're talking about the play just to be the Stanford.

Speaker 6 People didn't realize it was my last college game. Yeah.
You know, and a lot of people didn't realize I even played in that game.

Speaker 6 But, you know, it was, you know, it was obviously very, at that time, very disappointing because we thought we were going to a bowl game.

Speaker 6 You know, we were going to be, if we'd won that game, we'd have been six and five and had a chance to get to a bowl game. We hadn't been to a bowl game.

Speaker 6 And it's not in today's world where there's so many different bowls,

Speaker 6 you got a lot of different options. And so we were all excited, you know, making that comeback.

Speaker 6 We picked up a fourth and 17, just the drive to get us back to where we kicked a field to go to head, I think. You know, and then there's eight seconds left on the.

Speaker 6 on the clock and then chaos breaks out.

Speaker 6 But it was funny. So I was, I've got to play something quarterly in Idaho.
And so we went out to lunch and we're at this place called One Shot Charlie's.

Speaker 6 And I sit down and there's this older gentleman sitting next to me. And he says, taps me, he goes, hey, da, da, da.
We start talking. He says, we have something in common.
I said, we do.

Speaker 6 He goes, yeah. He goes, I was the umpire for the play.
And I looked at him. I said, so it was your fault.

Speaker 1 You son of a bitch.

Speaker 6 And so it was funny that that, you know, what is it, 45 years later now, and, you know, to see the umpire again was, it was kind of fun.

Speaker 6 You know, that was one of those plays that very disappointing at the time. But like you said, you know, you see it every Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 And so now, yeah, there's no question it's we've done a lot of different things on it, too. So it's, yeah, you look back on it.
Now you just say, you know, I was kind of glad to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 You know, it's going to be fun. It's like objectively kind of funny that this actually happened.
Like it's such an insane thing to happen. Yeah.
That you can't even believe it.

Speaker 1 Even when you watch a replay knowing what's going to happen, you're like, wait, well, there's the tuba player. What's going on there?

Speaker 6 And the funny thing is, for a week, I was hoping that they were going to turn that thing over. Yeah, the government.
I mean, we held on for a week, right?

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, they're going to come back and they're going to figure out a way to turn this thing around. But 45 years later, it has not been turned around yet.

Speaker 2 It is crazy that they just allowed the marching band to go onto the field.

Speaker 2 Forget about turning it over a week later. Like, that should one second later.

Speaker 6 My mic be questioned all the time. I've asked, I said, what if the trombone player was on the 10-yard line and the guy that ran over him with the ball had gone down? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did his trombone player get the tackle?

Speaker 6 Yeah, he gets the tackle. Now, do they call that a touchdown or what? You know, what is the rule there? I still, that's a question I've never got answered.

Speaker 2 A saxophone player forces a fumble, and then you guys get the ball, return it.

Speaker 1 Maybe. What happens then?

Speaker 2 And there's no way to know in that moment that, like, you know, you're on the sideline, future John Elway comes down and talks to present John Elway.

Speaker 2 Don't worry, you're going to look back at this, and it'll be an iconic moment in football history.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You'll be fine. I'm not sure I would have believed you at that point in time.

Speaker 6 But then you had the drive.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I mean, being part of the play and the drive.

Speaker 1 I mean, how often, I think it's a stupid question, but I'm always very curious, guys who played in the league and had such incredible success, how often does your mind wander just back to that, to the drive?

Speaker 6 You know, a lot, because it comes on, you know, every anniversary it's on there a lot. So, you know, I still enjoy watching it, you know, and it's kind of funny.
That

Speaker 6 was in my fourth year, you know, and my first year, my rookie year, struggled a little bit. And, you know, so I was up and down.
And, you know, things kept getting better as time.

Speaker 6 But that was kind of my coming out party.

Speaker 6 when we were able to do that in the situation we were in Cleveland and get it into overtime and then eventually win it in overtime.

Speaker 6 And so, but those are the type of things, like you said, memories to be able to look back. And really, the older you get, the more you kind of appreciate it.
Yeah. And,

Speaker 6 you know, so because the memories are so great and, you know, proud to be part of it. Yeah, yeah, you drive.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't that 98 yards?

Speaker 6 98 yards, yeah. 98 yards.
98 yards.

Speaker 1 With what, five minutes left?

Speaker 6 Five minutes to go, yeah. And so, you know, picked up a couple four downs.
And, you know, and the thing is, that game, we, you know, Cleveland was a really good football team.

Speaker 6 They were really good on defense. We hadn't had a lot of success all day on offense with only scoring 13 points up to that point in time.

Speaker 6 So to go 98 against him with five minutes to go, you know, we started making some plays.

Speaker 6 And the thing is about that drive, we just started trying to get some first downs, get some breathing room, right? Take it in one bit at a time. And then you could hear in the stadium was loud.

Speaker 6 And then you could just hear the stadium getting quieter, quieter, quieter, quieter. And you can feel the momentum switch.

Speaker 6 And so then we got it going and we're able to make those plays and then really win it in overtime, which, you know, people forget that we still had to go into overtime and win it.

Speaker 1 It is an all-time moment listening to a crowd when a drive like that happens and you can feel that they have the energy at the start and then it slowly just goes away where you like even on third down, you can hear them trying to bring it back to that energy, but you know you kind of have them.

Speaker 1 Right, yeah.

Speaker 6 You know, and that's the thing is you almost enjoy stadiums getting quieter than you do at home when they get louder. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You notice it more when you're on the road and it getting quieter. Yeah.
So yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there is that's a good point. There is that very sad third down cheer.

Speaker 2 After trying after you've got like, if you've gotten two fourth down conversions on the same drive, then it's third down again, then it's just like, okay, we're going to try. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But you know what that you've gotten when they got that sad level of volume in the sand. It's hard to get that back.

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Speaker 2 You were talking about some of the guys in that draft class. Did you have like a

Speaker 2 ongoing rivalry at whether it was something that you communicated to those other guys or just something that you kept track of in your head where you're always competing against the guys that were drafted in your same class?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, I think there's no question there's always a competition with us, you know, and I think especially with you look, you know, coming out and Jimmy went to the USFL to start with, Kelly.

Speaker 6 He was at in Houston for a couple of years before he went to Buffalo. But Dan was down in Miami.
And, you know, the big thing is he was the last player picked of those six quarterbacks that year.

Speaker 6 And so, you know, and then Danny came out his second year and threw for 5,000 yards, right? Went to the Super Bowl. And actually, they played it at Stanford Stadium.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And that's we that year we got beat in the first round. We had the home field that year, too, my second year, and got beaten the first round there.

Speaker 6 But I think after that point in time, it was really kind of chasing Danny because Danny was having so much success down in Miami.

Speaker 6 And then Jim went, you know, when he came back and went up to Buffalo, you know, they opened it up and had that red gun, I think they call it, and we're throwing it all over the place.

Speaker 6 We were a little bit, with Dan, we were a little bit more conservative and, you know,

Speaker 6 run the ball and throw it when we needed to. But, you know, we were winning football games.
Yeah. You know, and you couldn't argue when you're winning football games.

Speaker 6 And so, and then able to get to those three out of four years we got to the Super Bowls and unfortunately didn't win them, but we're able to get there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So in that draft, obviously the famous, you're going to maybe go play baseball if the Colts, the Colts do take you, but if they decide to keep you, was there ever a moment that you were nervous that like maybe I'm bluffing?

Speaker 1 Like, because

Speaker 1 you love football, and if they just say, hey, we're willing to burn a pick here, were you willing to be like, I'm done with football. I'm going to play baseball.

Speaker 6 Well, my plan was really to go play baseball for a a year because I had signed with the Yankees after my sophomore year.

Speaker 6 During my junior and senior year, I played in Minor League Baseball up in Oneonta, New York for the Yankees. And so I was in a contract with the Yankees.

Speaker 6 And so my plan was to go play baseball for a year. Then my name would have gone back in the draft the next year.
Got it. Right.
So they lose.

Speaker 6 So the Colts would have lost the rights to me the next year.

Speaker 6 My name would have gone back into the draft. So that was the worst scenario.
But I wanted to play football. Right.
And, you know, and so I thought there was going to be a trade done before the draft.

Speaker 6 And, you know, I really thought I was going to the Raiders.

Speaker 1 And that night before.

Speaker 6 It was through Chicago.

Speaker 6 And so, and I think with

Speaker 6 Al Davis at the time was, I think, soon, it was in a lawsuit with the NFL. Yeah.
And him and Pete Roselle didn't get along very well.

Speaker 6 So the rumor has it that Pete kind of got involved, got a hold of the Finks in Chicago and said, you can't let this go through. And so then that trade fell through.

Speaker 6 And so then the Colts kind of got stuck and ended up taking me. And so.

Speaker 6 Yeah, when they said your name, did you know that you were like, like they were already back channeling that you're you're not going to be or were you like shit they did take me no we knew i knew it by then right it wasn't back then when we got draft we'd have we'd go we were down we rented a suite with all the guys that were going to get drafted and watched the draft and you know kind of all got together and did it that way and so i was in constant contract contact with my agent all the time and so i knew once we got close to the draft that uh the colts were going to take me so yeah and you turned out to be correct because they moved the colts moved right they moved the next year yeah so you were you were kind of vindicated that's what i kept trying to say It's like nothing against Baltimore.

Speaker 6 I had never been to Baltimore. It really was nothing against Baltimore.
But it was the franchise was kind of the franchise and where they were.

Speaker 6 And, you know, they'd drafted Schleister a couple years before. And so it was just, you know, didn't feel like it was a great, you know, and having

Speaker 6 the leverage with baseball, you know, and really my dad was the one that led this whole charge. And he was smart enough to do it.

Speaker 6 At 22, I was not the one that was going to lead that charge, but he wanted to get me in a situation that was going to allow me

Speaker 6 to be the best player that I could be with a good organization that thought I had a chance with.

Speaker 2 And then years later, you get Peyton Manning from the Colts.

Speaker 2 You're like, they must hate you in this.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, fortunately, that, yeah, they let him go, so they were more mad at the organization that allowed us to get him. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Was there ever any thought of playing both?

Speaker 6 No, no, I didn't.

Speaker 6 You know, I I spent so much time at uh you know, at football and I was I was a better football player than I was a baseball player just because of the num you know, the amount of time I spent at it.

Speaker 6 You know, I always w I went to uh ro college roommates. Both of them had really good major league careers.

Speaker 6 You know, so I think I could have had a good major league career, but I don't know that it would have been at the level that I had with when playing football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it didn't, the story goes that George Steinbrenner said that he would, you were going to be the starting right fielder by like 85. Right, yeah.
And that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 That's really cool. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So, but like I said, I really wanted to play football. I love playing the quarterback position and felt I was a better quarterback than I was an outfielder.
And so,

Speaker 1 but well, thank you for playing football because it would have just wouldn't have hit the same

Speaker 1 way baseball player, like, you know, career like 280 hitter, which would have been great, but right, like, no, John Elliot's playing. It's a lot of football player.
Yeah, right, right, right.

Speaker 6 So, but yeah, it worked out great. And thank God they traded me to Denver.

Speaker 6 And Denver, Denver was really never on the list of, you know, we were talking to different teams before the draft of where I might go. San Diego was in it, but, because they had three first,

Speaker 6 but they were really trying to get Fouts signed. Fouts was a free agent at that time, and so

Speaker 6 they didn't have free agency, but not under contract.

Speaker 6 And so they kind of used that leverage to get dance signed so that kind of ended san diego you know seattle was a possibility new england um so yeah then ended up denver was kind of we asked denver they said no yeah got interested early and then they came back late so and it all worked out worked out yeah as an executive um we noticed that you had a type in quarterbacks what's the uh shortest a quarterback can be in your opinion because you really do like him tall yeah well i yeah i'm like tall yeah you like

Speaker 1 we would see a tall guy be like that's john elway's next next quarter.

Speaker 2 Did you see Big Cat? He's like 6'3 ⁇ . And you're like, I can work on this guy.

Speaker 1 There you go. Not bad, right? You know it.

Speaker 6 But yeah,

Speaker 6 but I think there's a limit that's too tall, too, right?

Speaker 1 Well, not really.

Speaker 1 You gave Brock Osmiler a contract. That's just not true.
You couldn't be taking it. You went to the tallest.

Speaker 6 And in 2015, when we went Super Bowl 50, Brock came in and played seven games for us and played really well. That's true.

Speaker 1 So you were

Speaker 1 indicated there.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 But I don't think, yeah, especially in today's game, you know, especially with the way they're protecting the quarterbacks and those type of things, I don't think you have to be nearly as tall as you used to have to be.

Speaker 6 And, you know, I believe that, you know, as a quarterback, it's great if you have the ability to move around and extend plays and make plays.

Speaker 6 That's huge to be able to get out and run around the pocket. But I still believe that, and I learned this, is that to win Super Bowls, you have to have a quarterback that can win it from the pocket.

Speaker 6 You got to be able to have guys that can win it from the pocket because they're too good. You look at the one Super Bowl that Kansas City lost to Tampa.

Speaker 6 Tampa put pressure on him with four guys, right? And they had seven back there and got him running early. And so, and then that's when Tampa was able to beat him.

Speaker 6 So I think that, you know, when you think about quarterbacks, I still believe you got to win it from the pocket.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is it hard to evaluate the quarterback position because you were so good at playing the position? Do you think that comes into it all?

Speaker 6 No, you know, I think the hardest thing about figuring out who's going to make and who's not is what's here, right?

Speaker 6 And so, I mean, I think if you look at all these quarterbacks that always go high in the draft, you know, they're going to bad teams, number one.

Speaker 6 And number two is they've never really had any criticism their whole life, right? Because they were good the whole time. They were good in high school.
They were good in college.

Speaker 6 And so they'd never faced the criticism. And so, you know, to be able to figure out and the right combination with an offensive quarter head coach is key.

Speaker 6 But to be able to get those kids in situations because they're going to go through tough times. There is a lot of growing pains coming from college football.

Speaker 6 I don't care if you play at Alabama or anywhere. You get to the NFL.
It's a big jump. You know,

Speaker 6 in college, you may play against one or two guys on the other side

Speaker 6 that'll play in the NFL, whereas once you get in the NFL, they're all

Speaker 1 NFL players.

Speaker 6 But I think the key thing is trying to figure out how they're going to handle the negative criticism and the negativity that comes along with young quarterbacks, what they have to go through, because they've got those growing pains.

Speaker 6 And so that's the thing that

Speaker 6 you can't read.

Speaker 6 And also trying to figure out getting them in the right offense that allows them to be successful.

Speaker 6 And there's always such a rush to get those young guys in there because the fans want them in there and see how they're going to do.

Speaker 6 And so, you know, to be able to have a coach, a head coach, or

Speaker 6 an offensive coordinator that can really protect that kid and really let him grow for the first couple years, two or three years, to where he sees everything and he's ready to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, situation is everything.

Speaker 1 I have... So this is a part of the show we do where it's I love to gamble.
I bring up a bad memory about gambling and ask our guests a question about it.

Speaker 1 Did you actually watch Paxon Lynch's bowl game? I did. I did.
Okay, that makes no sense then. I lost a lot of money on Memphis in that game.
And that was all my scouting of Paxton Lynch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he missed some.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you know, and we thought, you know, the thing is, a lot of times when you go through that, if the coach likes him, right, and it's a good fit, Gary Kubiak was the head coach at that time.

Speaker 6 And, you know, he was athletic and could move around. Again, you never know what's in here.
We thought he would be a really good fit in Gary's offense.

Speaker 6 And then, you know, unfortunately, Gary retired after that year. And so, and then trying to get that mix back.
And, you know, unfortunately, that was one of those picks that didn't work out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You may, maybe, you know, I know you're not the GM anymore of Broncos, but you're still involved.

Speaker 1 Maybe just having me come by for like a pre-draft meeting and you could say a name and be like, nope, he actually

Speaker 1 played a terrible game against, you know, USC. Like, don't worry about it.
Danglars, no.

Speaker 1 Danglars, no. Listen, I'm not, I'm not a smart person, but I just, I lost a lot of money on that game, and I was like, this guy's.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that can tilt you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was just took it with me.

Speaker 2 If you lose a bet on somebody, you remember all the bad things they did.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to give their great down go. Steel never lacked him again either.
Yeah, he hated everything about it. Done.

Speaker 1 I'm done with this guy. Probably a really nice guy.

Speaker 1 Really wish he had played better against Auburn in that bull game.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 2 One guy we got to get on the show is Mike Shanahan. Mike Shanahan seems like a football guy through and through.
You got to spend a lot of time with him.

Speaker 2 We've kind of danced around this topic for years. We've had some players that have played for him that have told us about the parties that he used to throw at his house every year.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we heard that he has a tanning bed in his house, in his home. Did you ever see his tanning bed?

Speaker 6 I never saw the tanning bed, but you know, we always had those parties when we broke camp, and so he always, it was always a real good party before we went into the year.

Speaker 6 But I never saw the tanning bed. It was funny.
He never wore a hat, so I think all the color with ink was natural.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 So we've heard how fun those parties were. What was he like as a coach? Was he a player's coach?

Speaker 6 He was. He was tough.
You know, and I think that that's what made him great. Number one, he was a very hard worker like most head coaches.

Speaker 6 But what his knowledge of the offense, of the offensive game, was tremendous and where it was back then, West Coast offense, because when he left Denver, he went to San Francisco, learned the West Coast.

Speaker 6 And then when he came back to Denver with Alex Gibbs, who was our offensive line coach,

Speaker 6 they put the zone running game in with the West Coast and then the combination. And then Mike just kind of grew it from there.

Speaker 6 And then I think if you look even now, what Kyle has done with the same base offense and what he's done and expanded with it, that, you know, they continue to take it to new heights.

Speaker 6 But Mike was, you know, he was a player's coach, but he was tough. And the expectations, it was never enough.
He never let us exhale. It was always we got to play better the next week.

Speaker 6 But, you know, players loved him, and he's a guy that wanted to win football games. And so he was the best coach I ever played for

Speaker 6 because I had a great rapport with him also, but loved what he did offensively. But also the expectations that he had of us made us have the expectations of us too.

Speaker 6 And therefore, that's, I think, why we're able to play it, we're able to play at that level.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the running game in the Shanahan offense is beautiful to watch. It's beautiful.
It's one thing where you can go three yards in a cloud of dust, and to a certain extent,

Speaker 2 that can win you some football games. But when you watch the 49ers or the Broncos back in the day, or now the Dolphins, when they're running the football, you're like, this is a work of art.

Speaker 2 It really is.

Speaker 6 And you know, when the key thing is, and what people don't realize is anytime you run the ball that well, you have receivers that can block.

Speaker 6 And that's the key thing because, you know, those right receivers got to get down in there and dig out those strong safeties and those type things.

Speaker 6 And so with Eddie McCaffrey, when I was there in the last couple of years,

Speaker 6 Eddie McCaffey and Rod Smith, they were great receivers, but also tough guys to get in there and dig out those DBs. And so that's what makes that running game so good.

Speaker 6 And the commitment by those wide receivers to block in the running game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, is there a guy that you played with that you think could excel in today's NFL, like a guy that would be an absolute game breaker? I have one in mind, but curious to hear from you.

Speaker 6 That excel in today's game.

Speaker 6 I mean, Gary Zimmerman in the left tackle, I think, could have played it in any time you know he was just that physically talented he wasn't a huge guy he was probably 285 290 but wasn't huge but just knew how to play the game and was you know a guy that i trusted on the backside and so that's one guy that would fit i mean terrell you know would still fit in and and i was trying to think if there's any you know defensively you know our safeties dennis smith and atwater they probably wouldn't fit in because they'd probably be suspended for every other game because they

Speaker 6 blow guys up right

Speaker 6 but uh but yeah i think we have several guys still playing.

Speaker 1 I mean, Shannon Sharp was

Speaker 2 the one that I was thinking of. Especially where the tight ends come.
Yeah. And the ability that he had to run after the catch, how strong he was, how big he was.
Yeah. That's a dude.

Speaker 2 I've seen him recently. He's a massive baseball.
He's still

Speaker 1 good.

Speaker 6 He almost looks bigger now than he was when he played, but he keeps working. And the other thing is, Shannon was only probably 225 pounds.

Speaker 6 But he was so strong, especially in the zone game, on outside zone, he had to control that outside linebacker, and he was able to do that.

Speaker 6 So to have a tight end that can catch and run routes and catch the ball like he could, but also block. Because you don't see a lot of that in the NFL today.

Speaker 6 They're either a pass catcher or they're a blocker. And you don't have a combination of guys that can run, you know, block as well as have the great speed and stretch the field for you, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Weird question, Tebo Mania. Was there ever a moment where you're like, maybe God is a Broncos fan?

Speaker 6 There was no doubt I thought he was.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 once he kept on going, we're like, what is going on?

Speaker 6 My gut was, you know, eventually God's got to take care of somebody else, too.

Speaker 6 The way that, you know, my first year when he came in as a starter and was in there the last, I don't know, 13 games.

Speaker 6 I mean, there were some things that happened that were just, I mean, truly unbelievable. And so, you know, we're playing Chicago on a Monday night.
He runs out of bounds.

Speaker 1 Gary Barber, yeah.

Speaker 6 Stays in bound, the game's over. Yep.
Get him out of bounds. And then all of a sudden, Tim, you know, comes back and makes that big comeback.
And so it was amazing.

Speaker 6 It was, you know, I think we beat Kansas City and Kansas Kansas City with eight yards passing or something like that. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. And then obviously the Steelers, you know, playoff game and the slant.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the slant in overtime, first playoff overtime.

Speaker 6 It was crazy. But, you know, he's a great kid.
I mean, it really is. He's everything that people think he is.
And,

Speaker 6 you know, just a tremendous, you know.

Speaker 6 competitor. Now, I think the only, I think there's only one guy that could have got me out of Tebo Mania, and that was Peyton Manning.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So that was the only guy that I think people would accept to say, okay, well, Peyton's probably a little bit better than Timmy, and so we can go ahead and go that direction.

Speaker 6 And so that's why it was even more important to get

Speaker 1 Peyton. Was there any part of your conversations with Peyton where he showed that, like, he was like, I don't really want to, I'm worried about coming to Denver because this is John Elway's city.

Speaker 1 Because it is. You're bigger than life there, and you are kind of like, when you think of Broncos, it's John Elway.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but no, I don't think Peyton had a problem with that. You know, I didn't think so.

Speaker 6 I think that, you know, Peyton was, you know, he's obviously, and I, we all know how studious he is and the way he runs things, that he was going to pick the best place for him, right?

Speaker 6 Where he felt like, you know, he was going to be able to run his stuff and be the offense molded to what he wanted to do and also get in a situation that was like Indianapolis that was not a

Speaker 6 major market, but Denver's in India is about the same size. And so I thought it was just a good fit.
John Fox was the head coach. He liked John.
John was a really good guy and a good recruiter, too.

Speaker 6 So, you know, and obviously it worked out very well for Peyton.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. That first Super Bowl was tough, too.
Speaking of gamblers.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I had the Seahawks, or excuse me, I had the Broncos in that one. And then I felt like after the first snap, it just wasn't going to go your way.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 That momentum switched fast, like on the first play.

Speaker 1 And I bet a lot on the Broncos in that. Yeah, and I had a partner.

Speaker 6 And Barbar Millard got hurt, so he was out. And then, but, you know, Seattle was pretty good.
And then, yeah, we just couldn't keep going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I kicked everyone out of my house in the third quarter because I lost so much money on you guys.

Speaker 6 Of course, I was out in the box. I had to stay there.

Speaker 6 I would have been at your house

Speaker 1 if I I just wanted to get out of here.

Speaker 1 Get out of here.

Speaker 2 It's funny. Talk about Tebow Mania.
I remember distinctly, I forget which game it was, but right after it was over, the camera showed you, and you were just shaking your head. Like,

Speaker 2 I don't know how this happened, but I guess I'm just going to roll with it.

Speaker 1 We had a game down in Miami.

Speaker 6 We had like 38 yards the whole game. We're down 14-0 with seven minutes to go in a game.
We end up getting an overtime and win the game. Yeah, and I was, that might have been it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was just like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Let's just roll with it.
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 No idea.

Speaker 2 I am a little bit upset with you because I bought a Nerf Vortex football when I was like 11 years old, and I thought that I was going to be able to throw it like 100 yards because I think it said on it, like, John Elway threw this.

Speaker 2 How long did you throw it? How far did you throw the vortex? Ah, shoot.

Speaker 6 I think it's 120 yards. That sucker flew pretty good with the tail.

Speaker 6 Did you hit the one with the noise?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, got the one with the noise. My parents hated it.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you take that to the beach. Everybody around you hates that family.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 6 But no, that, you know, I think sailed pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 How far could you throw an actual football?

Speaker 6 I think the farthest I threw one in a game was, I think, probably 72 yards.

Speaker 6 I think I could get it 80 to 85 when I was at my height.

Speaker 1 I mean, you had the famous in college, the Elway Cross, because you broke your receiver's fingers so much that they then you could see the cross on their pad on their jersey.

Speaker 6 Well, it was really when they didn't have pads on it. And if they let it get to their chest, sometimes

Speaker 6 the cross on the end of the ball would get to the skin. And so I think it happened a couple of times.

Speaker 1 Would you feel bad that you were just breaking your receiver's fingers?

Speaker 6 Yes, I did, especially, and I felt bad every time the ball didn't spiral because I knew if the ball didn't spiral, it was going to be tough for them to catch it.

Speaker 6 And so it was like, you know, that's when things, when fingers usually got, you know, sprained or broken when the ball didn't spiral. So as long as the ball spiraled, I felt a lot better about it.

Speaker 6 You know,

Speaker 1 but that is a rocket arm if you're like, yeah, my receivers just keep breaking their fingers because I throw it so goddamn hard.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, you know, I always felt the quicker I get it to them, then the quicker they can get their head upfield and do something with it after the ball. So after the after the catch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, this has been awesome. I have one like.
Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Maybe the most badass quote ever. You said, I've always thought I was going to die with a shovel.
In case I woke up, I could dig my way out. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I want to be buried with a shovel.

Speaker 6 I've always said that. I want to be buried with a shovel because I don't want to give up either.
I don't know. And if I do wake up, I want to have a way to get out of there.

Speaker 1 So I do.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, have you put this into your will? Like, are you? Yeah, it's all my kids.

Speaker 6 Everybody that knows. I said, make sure that shovel's in there.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 6 I'm not getting cremated at all.

Speaker 1 Give you a fighting cheese. Absolutely.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 So awesome. Like, John Elway, hopefully you live for many, many more years.
But the day that comes, we're just going to have to wait a couple more days after that and be like, anyone check on

Speaker 1 the plot?

Speaker 6 Is there dirt? Is there any grass left over there?

Speaker 1 You should train.

Speaker 2 You should actually train for it. No, you're right.

Speaker 1 I am now.

Speaker 6 I'm going to make sure I'm in shape when I die.

Speaker 2 No, but it's a good idea to just like, y'all get some, get some shovel work. And I think we could all use that.
Absolutely. You never know.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 You never know. You never know.

Speaker 2 Success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. That's right.
Right. So when I get the opportunity to die, I want to be prepared to get on.

Speaker 1 There you go. I mean, it's great.

Speaker 1 You know, like you're just never out of a game. Never.
Yeah. Never.
Never, never.

Speaker 1 But that's quitting. Yeah.
Yeah. That'd be quitting.

Speaker 6 I can't ever quit.

Speaker 1 Well, this has been awesome. Like I said, it's such a thrill to have you on.
We appreciate appreciate it so much.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling about the golf game?

Speaker 6 Not bad.

Speaker 6 You're a really good golfer. I play a lot now, so

Speaker 6 I should be because I play a lot. But

Speaker 6 you get here and you're not used to playing in these situations, competitive golf like this. The good thing is it's a double bogey max, so that helps.

Speaker 6 But you always, no matter what, and for me, I still love competing as much as I ever did. And so to be able to come out here and do it on a golf course is tremendous.

Speaker 2 And so try to go out there and not think you're Jack Nicholas and say, you know, okay, you're a John that way you're gonna miss some shots so don't don't worry about that try to make up for him so try to make some birdies and see what happens is there one guy in the field that you're very much looking forward to beating like if we're doing a head-to-head match and I know you're not going to be paired necessarily paired with this guy but is there one guy that you want to make sure that you beat uh

Speaker 6 you know you know what I always say I want to be in the top 10 and then I'd like to finish first of the oldest guys, right? So Jack Wagner's a little bit older, and he's been here every year.

Speaker 6 So, you know, try to stay ahead of those guys.

Speaker 6 But, you know, it's fun because I'm looking forward to Friday. I get to play with Josh Allen, who I played with last year, and Trevor Lawrence.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I get to play with those two and get caught up with those two. So I'm looking forward to it.
And you know, and there's so many great guys out here, great celebrities.

Speaker 6 It's fun to, you know, guys that we see on TV. And the young guys that are playing now, I get a chance to meet them.
So it's a thrill for us old guys to be here.

Speaker 2 How did you not get Josh Allen? I feel like he is exactly your type. I know, he is.

Speaker 6 And when I go last year, I played with him, and he says, yeah, and John Pat.

Speaker 6 I was going, I'm wondering, how long is it going to take him to realize that i passed on him and took radley and chubb instead yeah

Speaker 6 man it took me it took him two and a half holes to bring it up because and i loved him right yeah it just uh you know didn't wash your time that's the way

Speaker 6 you're right that was probably my biggest mistake of my gm days was not taking josh you didn't watch pax and lynch's bowl that too that too and i didn't get a chance and i didn't get a chance to talk to you yeah exactly you should have talked to me all right well thanks so much john we appreciate it you gotta do that

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Speaker 1 We are going to do the Mount Rushmore

Speaker 1 of

Speaker 1 after-school snacks.

Speaker 2 I think this might get contentious.

Speaker 1 I also think, PFT, we might age ourselves out a little. Yeah, that's okay.
Both those things have crossed my mind.

Speaker 2 That's totally fine.

Speaker 1 Yes. But I'm excited for this.

Speaker 2 And Henry has the first pick?

Speaker 6 I believe I do.

Speaker 15 Not necessarily a draft you want the first pick.

Speaker 2 It is a deep draft.

Speaker 1 It is deep, but yeah, you're right. This might be a good spot to have a third or fourth.
But I'm ready, Hank, for whatever you want.

Speaker 1 Do you have anything to say about the dartboard bullseye on Friday?

Speaker 6 It was just bullseye. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right, ready?

Speaker 9 It should have been dartboard.

Speaker 1 Okay, ready? You ready? That was a mistake. Are you ready? I'm ready.
All right. Henry, 1-1 pick of after-school snacks.
I had to go by Pepsi.

Speaker 9 I had to go with something I'm passionate about, something I love more than anything. The greatest combination in the world.
Peanut butter, chocolate.

Speaker 6 Gonna go with nutty bars.

Speaker 1 Good one. Love them.
Love them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know that you'll get my vote on that.

Speaker 2 It's a solid pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know you'll get my vote.

Speaker 2 I want to take it 1-1, but it's a good pick.

Speaker 9 Like I said,

Speaker 9 there's not a clear 1-1 in my mind.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There actually is not. Because

Speaker 9 everyone's after-school snacks are basically based off of their parents or their friend's parents.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the one house that had everything.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's everything.

Speaker 1 That was the best house.

Speaker 2 That's where I'm going with my 1-1, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm worried that this is going to be a fat-shaming thing.

Speaker 1 Okay. Because my after-school snacks.
snakeballs you're going to pick meatballs was just a fourth

Speaker 1 it was just like a fourth meal so i'm going to i'm going to go nuggets okay yeah any chicken chicken nuggets okay because i had

Speaker 1 dino nuggets dino nuggets for the dino nuggets i wanted but i thought maybe that was a little too niche no dino nuggets is good dino nuggets rock yeah no that's yo i i had nuggets on my list you're good all right this is my 1-1 and this is based off of the friend's house who had everything that had the stock pantry uh pizza rolls

Speaker 1 Pizza rolls.

Speaker 2 Remember when Blake Bortles and Jerry Goff almost burned down that house at the Super Bowl? Yeah. You got to make pizza rolls? Yes.
That was awesome. Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.
I had it on my list as well.

Speaker 1 This is tough. This is tough.

Speaker 1 Okay. I will go with

Speaker 1 Doritos.

Speaker 1 All right. Cool Ranch Doritos are my favorite.
Do you want me to specify? I can. I don't care if you guys want.

Speaker 2 I think you can just say Doritos.

Speaker 1 Doritos. I mean, Doritos are the best.

Speaker 2 Doritos are the best. They really are the best.

Speaker 1 God damn. And they're best.
Yeah, after school.

Speaker 2 Dip them in some salsa.

Speaker 1 This is tough because

Speaker 1 I want to. You know what? I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.
I'm just going to double up on it. Pringles.

Speaker 2 You're going double chips.

Speaker 1 I'm going double chips because I'm a chips guy. Need the crunch.
Doritos and Pringles. Lock up the chips aisle.
Okay.

Speaker 9 Which, no, you don't have to specify. Pringles is fine, but which Pringles?

Speaker 1 Sour cream and onion, original, BBQ. That's my top three.
No pizza. I wasn't a big pizza.

Speaker 1 The pizza combos and Pringles are like too artificial flavoring to me, which I know that sounds ridiculous because everything that we're listing is like the worst thing you can put into your body. But

Speaker 1 yeah, I just

Speaker 1 never got into the pizza. I like the pizza.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 2 Next up, I'm going to go string cheese.

Speaker 2 String cheese. Love that.
Just toss it across the room. You don't even have to.
You can go into your house for five seconds. Toss the string cheese, throw the backpack down, go back outside.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, this is me? Yeah, that's you.

Speaker 1 This was my other pick. Again,

Speaker 1 bigger than normal snacks. I'm going to go bagel bites.
Okay, yeah. I am a bagel bite guy over

Speaker 1 so am I. That was my second.
In my big board, it was nuggets one, bagel bites two. Yeah, bagel bites are great.
Bagel bites are great. I love bagel bites.
I'll eat them as an adult.

Speaker 9 I'm actually pretty shocked this got back to me. It's my turn, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Goldfish.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Mm-hmm.
I feel like, though, the only downs. I love goldfish.
You can take that.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying anything bad about goldfish. I do fart more when I eat goldfish because I'm convinced that the air trapped inside the goldfish goes in your belly.

Speaker 2 Oh, you swallow it? Yeah. So, goldfish I thought about too.

Speaker 2 But in my book, that's more of a lunchtime snack.

Speaker 1 That's all kinds of snacks. Yeah, that's like added in.
No, they're all the same.

Speaker 2 You have that as a side dish. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I think all of these things would show up in a bag lunch.

Speaker 9 That's true. Strange chicken.

Speaker 1 Maybe not bagel goldfish. Yeah, but after school, you're just like, this is you go to the you go to the pantry and you're like, what am I going to eat? Right.
Goldfish are always there.

Speaker 9 Yeah, because of the pantry, whatever you're putting in your lunch is also.

Speaker 1 What are your goldfish flavors?

Speaker 9 Straight up. Straight up.

Speaker 1 Oh, flavor blast.

Speaker 2 You've got to blast the flavor.

Speaker 1 I do like the pretzel goldfish, too.

Speaker 1 A little change of pace.

Speaker 9 I like the flavor blast, but you could just give me plain goldfish, and I could eat the entire family-sized box in one sitting.

Speaker 1 Maybe two. Okay.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 I will go with Famous Amos cookies.

Speaker 2 Oh, good pick, yeah. Good pick.

Speaker 9 That was the little bag?

Speaker 9 The big bag. My parents.

Speaker 9 That was like the BJ's. I had the big boxes at BJ's.

Speaker 1 But with little bags. No? Yeah, they come in little bags.
They're a little yellow bag?

Speaker 1 Am I thinking of that yellow? Like mustard, like mustard yellow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They were like good-sized bags. Yeah, but the cookies are small, right? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good pick.
Like that pick a lot. God damn it.
Being a kid was the best.

Speaker 1 Because I have like half of these I have in my house right now, and it's a problem.

Speaker 2 I think we have most of them out just in the lobby.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's a big problem.

Speaker 2 We definitely have goldfish. We've got

Speaker 2 Famous Amos. Doritos.
Yep. Yeah, we've got them.

Speaker 1 String cheese. Max.

Speaker 1 Is it me? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it? Wait, is it? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go Uncrustables.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.

Speaker 2 I love Uncrustables.

Speaker 1 You're just going all meals. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, after school, that was my...

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I needed a fourth meal after school.

Speaker 15 All right, like, why didn't you just think about what snack would you have after your fourth meal?

Speaker 9 Or would that you just go straight to the next meeting?

Speaker 1 No, that was like the snack. Like, they're like the smaller meals.
Yeah. It was, it was, that's what I would have after school.
I'm being true to myself. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Uncrustable is a great choice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a perfect snack.

Speaker 15 Do you not have a pantry?

Speaker 1 I did, but like, they didn't. It just wasn't really in my repertoire.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. For my next one, I'm going to go with celery and peanut butter.

Speaker 2 Especially for kids. If you want to act like you're feeding them something good, it's celery.
It's a vegetable. Yeah.
And then we're going to cover it in peanut butter. You go ants on a log or no?

Speaker 2 Ants on a log are good, but to tell you the truth, I don't have the patience for it. Once I get the celery dipped in the peanut butter,

Speaker 2 I'm eating this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Question before I make my final two picks. Drinks, yes or no? Yeah, snacks.
Were we saying drinks? Or no?

Speaker 2 I think they could be. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because I don't want to.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No? Hank, no? I'm fine. Drink a snack? Yeah, I'm fine with not opening that door.
I was just asking it for the group. Because I can go totally different place or I could go a drink.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 But I want to just ask.

Speaker 2 Because I had a specific type of drink that is like somewhat snack adjacent.

Speaker 1 Right. Adjacent.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's go no drinks. That's fine.
Okay. What would your drink have been? Capri Sun.
Oh, good pick. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I would have taken Slurpee.

Speaker 15 Also good purpose.

Speaker 9 The dictionary definition of snack is a small amount of food eaten between meals.

Speaker 1 All right. I would have done Capri Sun.
I also had Yoohoo on the list.

Speaker 1 I had Sonny D on the list. Do after school drinks.

Speaker 9 We could do that another time.

Speaker 1 All right. So, all right.
I'm happy. That was very.
That was nice how we did that. That was good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Fruit snacks. Easy.
Do you want me to specify? I can.

Speaker 1 You would like me to specify. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is where I'm going to age myself. Fuck.

Speaker 2 Are you about to say the shark ones? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're still around. Yeah.
They're still around. Shark bites are still around.

Speaker 2 I get gummy sharks in my frozen yogurt.

Speaker 1 The fucking great white shark is the best fruit snack ever.

Speaker 2 It is good.

Speaker 1 Shark bites. Can you maybe put parentheses fruit snacks? Because people might not know what shark bites are.
That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 this, I'm not talking about a homemade. I'm talking about store.
Just rip it open. The Rice Krispie Treat.
Love that.

Speaker 1 Rice Krispie Treat. It's old reliable.
Good pick. Old reliable.
Good pick. I'm bummed.
I also have that in my house.

Speaker 2 I'm bummed I can't take Slurpee.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I want to take Capri Sun. With a Slurpee, you like, that's when you're driving home from school.
Yeah. Those couple years, you swing by the 7-Eleven on the way back.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to pivot and I'm going to go to

Speaker 2 Easy Mac.

Speaker 2 Easy Mac, Mac, and Cheese. Great pick.

Speaker 1 Great pick.

Speaker 1 That's in my

Speaker 1 repertoire, yeah.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Easy Mac was elites.

Speaker 1 Max's last pick is steak. Meatballs.
Meatball is steak.

Speaker 1 You have a great draft, Max. I have it.
There's just no. I mean, I could could just keep going because I have another one that I would like to do.
Do it. Lunchables.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's great. It's great.

Speaker 2 It's literally lunch, though.

Speaker 1 But it's a snack. But it isn't.

Speaker 1 It's not a reasonable. It's not a full meal.
It can't be a snack.

Speaker 1 No, it can't be a snack.

Speaker 2 It's lunchable.

Speaker 15 Which lunchable?

Speaker 1 I think that's a snack. I mean, I would eat it after school.

Speaker 1 I would eat that after school. But which lunchable?

Speaker 1 I wish I knew 12. I don't really

Speaker 1 just fucking pounding all these things.

Speaker 2 No, but that's insane that we're allowing lunchables. It's literally lunch.

Speaker 1 I get it, but I mean, I would eat it after school. I would eat it.
That's fine. Yeah, these are things that I would eat after school.
Yeah. All right.
You can make another one.

Speaker 1 I crush lunchables. Yeah,

Speaker 1 lunchables are good. I crushed them.

Speaker 9 Crushed them. There's only a couple good ones.
Like, the pizza ones were trash.

Speaker 1 Pizza ones?

Speaker 1 I like the cheese and cracker on the cheese. Yeah, the cheese and cracker with the cheese.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. That should stand.
If you want to take cheese and cracker lunchable, no, you can. You can eat cheese and cracker.
You can keep it up.

Speaker 1 I just think that it's insane.

Speaker 9 Lunchables come with dessert and a drink. So it's like, it doesn't matter.
But

Speaker 1 there were ones that didn't come with all of them.

Speaker 1 In Max's defense, lunchables for maybe guys our size was not a full lunch. That's not a full lunchable.
You can't eat a lunchable for lunch. I never once had a lunchable lunch.
Never for lunch. Never.

Speaker 1 Because you'd just be like, what?

Speaker 1 That is it? That's all I get? Correct. That's like a warm-up snack.

Speaker 1 You eat the lunchables

Speaker 1 and then you go to the bagel bites.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm sticking.

Speaker 1 Lunchable,

Speaker 1 and I'll put, I'll even put the cheese and cracker in parentheses.

Speaker 9 But you should just get cheese and crackers because lunchables come with a drink.

Speaker 1 But like the lunch, the lunchable ones are the

Speaker 2 my qualm is not with the fact that there's so many things in a lunchable, it's just the fact that we're taking lunch as a snack. It's funny.
It's ridiculous. But we're going to let Max do it.

Speaker 1 But lunchables, if it weren't for the name, it is the quintessential snack. Like the name is what's stopping it.
Like, it's literally the size is a snack. It's like you eat it after school.

Speaker 1 Wait, you have a snack?

Speaker 2 Can a snack have a dessert?

Speaker 1 Do all lunchables have desserts? Yeah, I think they do. Yeah, I mean, well, half of mine are desserts anyway.

Speaker 2 No, but I mean, like, there's a dessert that goes along with his snack. There's like one.
After you're done with your snack, you can't get a drink.

Speaker 1 Oh, what was the dessert in them? There's a Andy's bar.

Speaker 1 There would be.

Speaker 1 Right here.

Speaker 2 We can't see it, Max. We can't see it.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 2 It was the Andy's bar. The menu.

Speaker 1 There were ones that didn't have. Yeah, I used to not have ones with dessert.
It would be like the meat and cheese and crackers. That was.
Yes, that's it.

Speaker 1 That was it. Those are the ones I used to have.
Also, I didn't know they got desserts. But just

Speaker 1 the meat, cheese, and cracker. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is the one I'm talking about, PFT. That's basically a snack.

Speaker 2 But I think that's leaving out a part of the tray. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there's a tray.

Speaker 2 There was usually. Look at it.

Speaker 9 I think there was both. There was some that didn't have.

Speaker 2 There were some no-dessert lunchables. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't remember having.

Speaker 1 Look at this one, ham and cheddar. There's no dessert in that one.

Speaker 1 Crackers, cheese, ham. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 It is like, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's just not even close to a meal. It's 260 calories.
Yeah, that's a. That's a good thing.
Yeah, it might be us being bottomed. But that's also like the same amount of calories as a bag of Doritos.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 So you're sticking with it. I'm sticking with it.

Speaker 1 I'll even put the just meat, cheese, and cracker in the parenthesis.

Speaker 2 I think Max should be allowed to pick it. I just think it's very funny they took lunch as a snack.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yes. I'm looking right now.
Lunchables have gotten fancy. Yeah, too fancy.
Just give me the meat, cheese, and cracker. Crazy right now.

Speaker 2 Run the football.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, there are mini hot dog lunchables.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Damn, they've got ones with Reese's in them.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 9 Last pick?

Speaker 1 Yep. Dunkaroos.

Speaker 1 Good one.

Speaker 1 I had it on my list. Yep.
Can't argue with it. Can't argue with it.

Speaker 1 We missed a bunch.

Speaker 9 Gushers. Gushers, yeah.
Cosmic Brownies.

Speaker 1 Cosmic Brownies are on my list. Zebra cakes.
Little Debbie.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fruit Roll-Ups. Fruit by the Foot.
I was a Fruit by the Foot guy. Were you guys a Fruit by the Foot or Fruit Roll-ups? I was a Fruit Roll-Ups fan.

Speaker 1 I liked Fruit by the Foot. I liked to spin it out and just eat it, like not use my hands.

Speaker 1 I was a yogurt, like a Trix Yogurt was was like,

Speaker 1 that was what I was going to go if I could.

Speaker 2 Trix Yogurt was all.

Speaker 1 Trix Yogurt was so good. Yeah.
Gushers.

Speaker 1 We say gushers.

Speaker 1 The peanut butter chewy granola bar. That's like a candy bar.
Yep. But you can pretend that it's healthy.

Speaker 2 Just cheese, those packets that were the neon orange cheese crackers with the peanut butter inside. Yes.

Speaker 1 You know those? Yeah. Wait, are you talking about...
Yes.

Speaker 1 I like the same one, regular cracker, peanut butter inside, but I know what you're talking about with the Neon Orton. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they also had those with cheese.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 Hot pockets. Yep.
Yeah. I have a whole line of meals.
That's the hot pockets.

Speaker 1 I used to crush hot pockets. I completely forgot about hot pockets.
I loved hot pockets. God damn it.
They were good.

Speaker 2 Just a grilled cheese sandwich?

Speaker 1 Taquitos. I would say.
Taquitos are good too.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Taquitos.

Speaker 9 Peanut butter pretzels.

Speaker 1 Chocolate teddy grams.

Speaker 1 I used to do chocolate teddy grams. This is now not after, well, I guess it's after school because it was college when I was high.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tortilla,

Speaker 1 heated up, peanut butter, peanut chocolate teddy grams in it. Whoa.
Actually, I think you've said that. Yeah, it's a high.
It's a high. I think I might have put it in Chef Donny's recipe book.

Speaker 1 Shows how

Speaker 1 my palate is. I used to do the microwave nachos that, like, if you just had shredded cheese, coffee chips, and then

Speaker 1 nuke them.

Speaker 1 I still do that.

Speaker 1 The cheese cases. We do it for dinner in my house.

Speaker 2 Completely solid.

Speaker 1 It burns onto a chip. Oh, yeah.
It's good.

Speaker 2 And then you bite it and it's all chewing. You're like, this is still good.
Yeah. It's good stuff.

Speaker 9 I was the apples and peanut butter guy. Yep.

Speaker 1 Apples and peanut butter are very good.

Speaker 1 Sun chips. Always liked sun chips.
You guys like sun chips? I do, okay. Yeah.
They also were like in that.

Speaker 2 I like the garden, the garden salsa ones.

Speaker 1 I like the blue ones, and it would, it was always sun chips were in that range where you could pretend it was healthy just because it looked different. And it didn't look like Doritos

Speaker 1 in your face. Like, you're going to fucking eat this.
Yeah. Sun chips, like, oh, you know, it says sun in it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The ruffles, sour cream, and cheddar.

Speaker 2 Love those chips. Those are good chips, yeah.

Speaker 1 Sun chip guy through and through.

Speaker 2 Did I say grilled cheese? Yeah, you said grilled cheese. Yeah, just whipping up grilled cheese real fast.

Speaker 1 Oh, I had one other drink that maybe PFT, you and I might be the only ones doing it. Did you guys ever have the juice barrels?

Speaker 2 Yeah, juice barrels. That's like a soccer halftime stuff.

Speaker 1 They were little kegs of just juice. Yep, we had them.
And it was like not, there was no flavors. It was just red or blue.

Speaker 2 Great. Barrel drinks.
Great. You could drink one of those in about a quarter of a second.
Great.

Speaker 1 Those were great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you who we said. Anything else? What do we miss, Yubi?

Speaker 1 We got them all. Feels pretty good, yeah.
I feel like we nailed a lot of these. Hot Pockets was a miss.
Big miss. I loved Hot Pockets.

Speaker 2 What flavor? You like the ham and cheese? You like the cheesesteak?

Speaker 1 Cheese steak and then the pepperoni. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was ham and cheese and the meatball.

Speaker 2 The meatball mozzarella. Got to get the meatball in there.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have to get the meatball. Got to find a way to get the meatballs.
I should have. Maxie, you should have done that.

Speaker 2 You're lucky that

Speaker 2 we didn't start with this Mount Rushmore last summer when you first started because your name would definitely have been meatball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Meatball Maxie. Meatball.

Speaker 1 Meatball maxi. All right.
Anything else, Hank?

Speaker 1 That was the best. Getting out of school and just being able to go to town on all the snacks.

Speaker 1 It's hard. Like, I'm, I, I struggle with, like, I want to be that house, but also, I don't want like a ton of like random kids in my house.
So, like, I think I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 Also, it's valuable to teach your kids to scavenge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like, the one house that had the best snacks was always the one-one pick of everyone whose house we're going to go to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I don't, I want to be in that middle zone where, like, yeah, my kids come over with their friends, but like every day, I think I, I think that'd be a lot.

Speaker 9 And we want to sneak into the like, yeah, you can go get a snack, but then later on, you'd be like, let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go right there. You can build it, they will come.
That's pretty much it. If you just build like a convenience store in your house, all the kids will come over.

Speaker 2 And that's a very slippery slope into like all the kids coming over all the time. And then next thing you know, they're in high school.
And then your basement is the party basement. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And also, I don't want all the kids eating my snacks.
Yeah. They are my snacks.
I'm the one who buys them. Yep.

Speaker 1 Those were like, a lot of these were like the ideal snacks. Like, I would rarely have them in my own house, but every time I went somewhere else, it would be like, this is what I wanted as a kid.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is what I wish my parents were. Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's as simple as it gets as a kid. It's like,

Speaker 1 do they allow toy guns? Can you watch TV and snacks? That's what I want my parents to be.

Speaker 2 What video game system do they have? Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good Mount Rushmore, boys.

Speaker 1 Okay, that is our show. Takeies on Wednesday.
We can't remember if we already taped numbers or not, so we're going to do one right now.

Speaker 1 And if we did do it, you'll get two numbers this time so everyone be cool between now and wednesday because we will be ordering we will be um we'll be awarding the awl award yeah to some podcast listeners so much like right before christmas when you try to make your parents think that you're doing a lot of good stuff to get presents and toys just be cool this week everyone compliments are fine everyone give uh memes a compliment yeah this week give everyone a compliment yeah say something nice about all of us um but yeah so if we have double numbers uh you're not hallucinating there'll just be be another numbers with Max and Hank right after these.

Speaker 1 But let's try to get one of us to get it right now without Max here. So, numbers: eight,

Speaker 14 77, three,

Speaker 1 twenty,

Speaker 6 ninety-nine. Poke.

Speaker 2 Actually, can I change mine? Yes, 56. Yes, I was gonna say, yeah, 56.

Speaker 1 Would you rather have 20?

Speaker 2 No, I'll take 56.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 This officially counts, even if we did other numbers.

Speaker 2 Everyone agrees. Yes? Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Counts.

Speaker 1 71.

Speaker 2 Love you guys.

Speaker 2 You

Speaker 2 reach a point,

Speaker 2 like a girl, change his clothes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you be a mess,

Speaker 2 like a bitch, I know.

Speaker 2 And you are think

Speaker 2 of a speed, crazy.

Speaker 2 But you know that you're no good for me.

Speaker 2 Cause you're hot and you're cold, you're yes, then you're no. You're in, then you're out, you're up and you're down.
You're wrong when it's right, it's black and it's white.

Speaker 2 We fight, we break up, we kiss, we make up.

Speaker 2 You don't really wanna say no.

Speaker 2 you don't really wanna cut up.

Speaker 2 You're hot, then you're cold, you're yes, then you know. You're in, then you're out, you're up, then you're down.
You're hot and you call you yes, then you know.

Speaker 2 You're in the new out, you're up and you're down. You're hot and you call you yes, then you know.
You're in the new out, you're up and you're down.

Speaker 2 We used to be just like twins, selling

Speaker 2 the same energy. Now it's a dead battery.

Speaker 2 Used to love

Speaker 2 about the thing,

Speaker 2 now you're playing boring.

Speaker 2 I should know

Speaker 2 that you're not gonna change.

Speaker 2 You're hot and you cold, well, yes, then you know. You're in and you're out, you're up and you're down.
You're wrong when it's right, it's black and it's white.

Speaker 2 We fight, we break up, we kiss, we make up.

Speaker 2 You shouldn't really wanna say you know.

Speaker 2 You shouldn't really wanna cut off.

Speaker 2 You're hot and you're cold, you're yes, then you know you're in and you're out, you're up and you're down

Speaker 2 Someone called the doctor You're the case of love by holder

Speaker 2 Stuck on a heart before a ghost I can't get up

Speaker 2 You change your mind like a though, change your clothes

Speaker 2 You're hot and you're cold, you're yes then you know You're in and you're out, you're up and you're down The wrong way is right, it's like it is right. We finally break up, we can't.

Speaker 2 Hot when you call, yes, then you know, you're in the new up, you're up and you're down.

Speaker 2 Wrong when it's right, it's like it is right. We finally break up, we kiss, we make up.

Speaker 2 You don't really wanna say no,

Speaker 2 you

Speaker 2 don't really wanna cut out.

Speaker 2 Hot when you're cold, yes, then you know. You're in the new up, you're up and you're down.