Joe Burrow, Mt Rushmore of Meat, MLB All Star Teams, And Are We Now A Bronny James Podcast?

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Today is Monday, July 8th, and the boys are back in town. We're back in town.
I think we picked a decent week to take the vacation because the one thing that you have to always be on the lookout for the week of the 4th of July is the Friday afternoon news dump. Yeah.
And we didn't even get really one of those. No.
It was like Biden might not run for president. I did.
I don't want to get political, but I did. That tweet, I don't know if you guys saw, I quote tweeted the other day.
Someone was like, it's telling that all these people who love politics have just never been through a coach being fired before and it

was the most apt analogy ever because it is we're we we are one of the things that i think we do better than anyone is we can tell you when a coach is on the hot seat when he gets that sad look at the podium and they are literally doing the like it like he's going to give up the offensive play calling just so he can coach the whole team well pretty much uh what's going on is the dnc is saying, Joe Biden is our candidate.

Yeah, yeah.

We have a full vote of confidence in Joe Biden right now. So they're just, you know, doing all the moves.
Everything's going to be fine. But we are back.
It feels good to be back. What do you guys want to talk about? You guys want to talk about Bronny? So we can talk Bronny.
You want to do that right off the bat? Let's fucking talk about Bronny. The dude, I don't know if you saw, but Bronny.
Biggest four points in NBA history. Dude, he hit a layup in transition.
Holy shit. Yeah.
And LeBron watched and said, damn, that's tough. This is great.
I hope there's some Bengals fans that are tuning in for the first time and they're like, what is this? It's about Bronny. Yeah.
This podcast is about Bronny. We're just a Bronny James and Charlie Woods podcast.
Can I say something about Bronny? I really don't like the fact that he's going by Bronny. Why not? His name's LeBron James Jr.
Just go LeBron James Jr. I don't like calling.
It's even in the box score. It's B.
James. Yeah, I don't like that.
I agree with you. Your name is LeBron James Jr.
I wasn't sure where he was going until he told me the box score thing. Yeah.
That's weird. It's annoying.
It should just be, just go by Jr. And also, it would be cool if he ever got in a game and it was L.
James and L. James Jr.
right next to each other. Remember when he said he wouldn't wear his dad's number because he doesn't want people to know who he is? Yeah.
Now he's just, they're doing. So that's probably why.
He doesn't want people to, maybe they'll think that he's not LeBron James Jr. That's true.
Because his name's Bronny, not LeBron. Now they're just literally doing 69.
Now he's a guy that would just go out there and you'd be like, why is that guy on the team? Is he like LeBron James Sutton or something? Yeah. No, that's Bronny.
Oh, it's Bronny. Yeah, yeah.
It can't be his son. They should do the Brazilian method and just go LeBron Nino.
Yeah. Ooh, I like that.
Yeah. I got a take about Bronny.
i actually kind of am addicted to how mad brawny's making everyone well because it's like the updates on espn are like brawny brawny has a transition layup brawny has an assist watch lebron james jr oh it's not watch brawny watch lebron react to brawny's uh two points yeah it's an ecosystem. And everyone's getting so mad, and it's very funny because this is how I consume sports.
I also was like, this is ridiculous by LeBron. It's a very egotistical play.
Yeah, it's cool. They're playing together.
And then as soon as everyone got very upset, I was like, actually, I kind of like this because it's a fucking NBA Summer League, and they know what they're doing. How do they do all-star voting? Is there a fan vote? Yeah.
So what we should do next year is just we should try to get try to get Bronny into the all-star game. Yeah.
People get mad about his contract. Yeah.
It's great. Well, fully guaranteed.
Well, that was a big time ball knowers. And I did not know ball until I looked it up, but that is also part of the new CBA.

So the new CBA has different contracts for second-round guys. Tyler Kolick, who is a Knick, went to Marquette.

Also very funny when Josh Hart just –

Celtic.

What?

Tyler Kolick.

From Marquette.

Oh, we're in New York.

Who did you think?

He was thinking Sam Hauser.

Not everything's about you, Hank. The other white guy yeah that was that was crazy we're talking we're talking celtics i think are you thinking of bailey shireman yep yeah that's just another big east guy white biggies guy completely different player okay uh we're back anyway tyler kolik uh there was like a fake uh twitter troll started a rumor that tyler kolik couldn't read this happened last year during during big east play and josh hart on his podcast with jalen brunson was like hey can he read he like i legit was like i don't know if he can read or not yeah so every time somebody gets ball sacked out there yeah there's always like five percent people that never realized that it was a joke right they just keep just keep going around with it.
Right. So anyway, Tyler Kolick did break the record for, I think, most money for a second round pick.
So he got, what was his exact contract? He had guaranteed money, $6.6 million. So Bronny probably didn't deserve a non-two-way contract, but the new CBA does have very different contracts for second round picks so people were like this guy five years ago got paid uh for blueberries and brawny gets 7.9 million uh-huh that is partially the new cba i do i don't hate maybe i will become a brawny stan i don't know i i think that uh fuck it maybe lebron pulled this move just so he can write two million dollars out of his son's inheritance yes he's like that's just two million less than i you're getting this up front yeah well there was there was the bra lebron took three million dollars less than the actual max he could have had he did do that it's like oh he was just stashing away for brawny but but i also think that in his in his new contract if he gets traded he gets like an extra kicker that goes in.
He does have a no trade clause, but he can accept a trade. And then I think he would make like $3 million.
Yeah. He said he'd take less.
He then took the max or $3 million less than the max. Bronze sexuals are saying, well, he said he'd take less for the right free agent, which then boxes them in the corner.
No free agent in their right mind wants to go to whatever this iteration of the Lakers are going to be. Yeah, DeMar DeRozan didn't.
Yeah, he was sign and trade. Yeah, he was sign and trade.
But he was probably the last good player that was out there. Yeah, well, yeah, he wanted Klay, Valanchunas, and they got nothing.
Yeah, DeMar DeRozan is now a Sacramento King, and the Bulls, yet again, mistimed an asset. But they're kind of on the right direction of trying to be bad.
Well, DeMar DeRozan, he wanted to leave the Bulls after the Josh Giddey trade, after the Caruso for Giddey trade, somewhat similar to our rule that we have in our Dingers Only League, where he's like, I'm allowed to exit this team. I must say that the NBAba did investigate i don't want to defend josh giddy but he's a bull now they didn't find anything the first when big cat told me that that he jumped on just to talk about the josh giddy trade the only thing i could think of was caruso for giddy is a real life version of pervert or italian oh man and i love alex crusoe but yeah the bulls uh demar derosen's gone's gone.
They're trying to blow it up. They mistimed everything.
I saw a crazy DeMar DeRozan stat, and I didn't verify it. I didn't look it up to see if it's true.
Those are the best stats. I think he's scored almost as many points as Steph Curry.
Okay. In his entire career.
Let's find out. Let's find out.
All right. I saw that.
I was like, whoa. Career point.
Is that stat real? I'll just talk to the boys. Okay.
He has 23,582. I mean, he's played longer, and he's played a lot of games.
And he was the number one option on not. Yeah, he has scored 150 less than Steph Curry.
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool, and he's done it the hard way.
Yep. With twos, not threes.
Yep, that's right. The showboating Steph Curry.
Old-fashioned. Or you could say Steph Curry's probably insanely more efficient.
No, I would just say DeMar DeRozan is the working man, Steph Curry. Yeah.
But yeah, the Bulls are going to blow it up for the next year until the Reinsdorfs are like, hey, let's win 40 games again. That'd be nice nice and they'll go back to that uh what other we we also had in nba news uh kevin durant who got hurt i guess during uh olympic scrimmage also shout out anthony edwards who said the team has to everyone has to do it around him yep it's not a fit it they have to fit in with me not the other way around i like that He's just a bulldog um but kevin durant did a sit-down article with yahoo sports and was essentially like uh everyone just does the smashes the kevin durant could be traded button for clicks we should get that button yeah i mean i listen that definitely happens uh kevin durant is someone who's very online.
You, of all people, should know that happens. But also, you have been on a good amount of teams in the last few years.
He's been on four teams, right? Yeah. Well, he's been on four teams, and he's been on, what, three teams in the last four or five years? Yeah.
But, yeah, he said, yes, it's a button. What else is going to get people going around this times?

Oh, the journeyman is leaving again.

That story is always going to hit.

Now, I did hear that Kevin Durant was unhappy and wanted to be traded.

Yes.

And so I think that if you're Kevin Durant and you're on those Suns,

you want to leave, right? Tune in to Wednesday's Part of My Take,

where we actually will have the inside scoop on Kevin Durant's possibly being traded.

I hear he's unhappy. People are going to think we have him on the show.
We do not have him on the show. I think that ship has sailed.
Yeah. LeBron would want to be traded to the Suns.
Well, he wants. He wants all the Suns.
Yeah, he wants them all. And he wanted.
That was the one team that Bronny was allowed to go to. Oh, really? Yeah, it was the Suns of the Lakers.
Would they have to change the spelling of the name? I don't know. But he's ended up on the lakers it's crazy yeah i i uh what what other we've got uh all-star game snubs yes now if i'm a baseball player and i get snubbed for the all-star game i'm secretly excited about it because at least you get to go have like three days where you don't have to work yeah although it's probably pretty cool i mean it's it's such a i always think with the all-star game in baseball it's a short enough time that you'd probably just rather be in the all-star game because it is three days you know if it was a full week I'd be like yes not me every time um we have a problem because Christian Yelich might be returning to form and he is in the all-star game which makes me very nervous that he's going to potentially compete in the hormone derby and he's got an ax to grind one drafted him.
And where is the all-star game this year? I know, but I'm asking Max because he loves. I was about to say it.
So, yeah, I'll just let Max say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were. I know you were about to say it, Hank.
Obviously. Yeah.
Austin? It's not Boston. Come on.
It is in Max. Can't even Google it.
Max, I thought you knew it. You don't know where it is, Max? This is embarrassing, dude.
Everything's bigger there. Oh, it's in Texas.
Yep. Globe Life? Is it in Globe Life? Yep.
Okay. We'll have to look and see how that does for lefties.
Yeah, listen, he's hit, what, three home runs in the last couple games? Yeah. So it's a small sample size.
Well, he might have taken it personally that he wasn't drafted in Dinger's only.

Well, he can suck my ass.

Yeah.

We might have to.

Tune in soon.

We'll have to stream that.

That will be quite something.

Streaming eating each other's asses?

No.

Watching Christian Yelich potentially making us do a stream where we eat each other's asses.

Yeah.

This is going to suck.

I'm confident.

I was so.

I'm confident.

He was washed. He still is washed.
I like Christian Yelich a lot. He's a friend of the program, been a friend of the program for a long time.
But, dude, don't do it. You're going to get hurt again.
Your back's going to hurt. Oh, is Pete Alonzo going to be in it? Pete Alonzo with the Home Run Derby is the worst.
He is the biggest loser in sports when the Home Run Derby comes around.

It's one of my all-time meatball

sports brain takes that

when Pete Alonso gets talked about

potentially for being on the Cubs, I'm like

I don't want him. He cares too much about the Home Run Derby.

Dude, he gets laser focused.

He meditates backstage.

He goes into a little panic room

by himself in between rounds and just

focuses and visualize home runs.

and the Home Run Derby isn't even that

Thank you. He meditates backstage.
He goes into a little panic room by himself in between rounds and just focuses and visualize home runs.

And the home run derby isn't even that fun anymore.

No, they changed it.

Did they?

They made it fun.

They refunded it?

They refunded it.

What are they doing?

They are doing, I think it's swings now, right?

No, it's the same way initially.

I think it's still like two and a half minutes.

But it's not head-to-head either. But then they get five.
I think it's four extra outs after they do the. We need to look this up.
Okay, we got to look it up. We got to look it up.
I'm pretty sure that's. I'm pretty sure that's.
Look it up. Home Run Derby rules.
I'm pretty sure. Home Run Derby used to be like the best night of the summer.
Yeah. It was so awesome.
I loved watching the Home Run Derby. The old rules made it.
So the problem with the new Home Run Derby is you don't get to appreciate each dinger because the next dinger is already hit while the last dinger is in the air. Then you have to watch the score bug to see if the last dinger went out or not.
Yeah. All right.
They didn't really change it. I disagree with my own statement.
It's still three minutes.

Yeah, I don't like that.

I'm pretty sure they get additional outs, though.

Yeah, but who cares about additional outs?

Yeah, that's not our problem.

I want to go back to 10 outs and guys taking balls over and over.

And what, the 10th ball was worth two?

Yeah, and you could just sit there and just marinate in it.

Watch the dingers fly.

Not, oh, who can hit the most dingers that, oh, this one lands before the next one, or this one doesn't land before the next one's even hit. Josh Hamilton, Bobby Abreu.
There are no, they did change. It's not head-to-head until the semifinals, which I do like that.
Okay, that's better. That's a little bit better.
So it'll just be the top four. Three-minute round, 40 pitches, one timeout, three bonus outs bonus outs yeah the bonus outs don't do anything now was it three minutes with 40 pitches last year uh or was it just three minutes or oh yeah you might be right you might be right because that's i think that's better some good podcasting i feel like we're getting back in uh it's like training camp for us we took one week off off.
I know personally, I spent an entire week just saying, put your shoes on and then watching Paw Patrol. So my brain is mush.
I haven't talked to like adults for like a real meaningful conversation in a while. But yeah, I feel like in your sick PFT.
I'm sick. I also spent the last week just negotiating with street vendors.
Oh. My friend.
Best press, my friend yeah in greece i love greece they don't pay taxes greece they don't no that's why their whole economy the taxes in greece and this is this could be i paid a lot of taxes while i was this could be totally made up but as far as i know and this is based on a twitter thread i read a few years ago in greece taxes are optional. And then their economy just crumbles every like 10, 15 years.
They're like, hey, we should probably start paying taxes. Their club soccer teams should be a lot better then if you don't have to pay taxes.
That's how you get all the good players. I think they might charge foreigners taxes, but the actual Greckians, it's kind of like a leave or not.
Yeah. They're like, oh, should I do my taxes? No, I'm not going to do it this year.
I love Greece. It was a great place.
But I just kept thinking about Stavi when I was over there. Yeah.
Also, shout out Stavi gave me a great recommendation to go get a euro in Athens. And I showed up and I was 10 minutes late and it closed.
Oh, no. So I'm very bummed out about that.
How do they close the Euro ships in Athens?

Well, let me tell you a little story about how Greece works.

Nothing opens until, like, 11 a.m.,

because everyone stays out until, like, 2.30 a.m.

Yeah.

And then they open for lunch for, like, two and a half hours,

and then they don't open again until, like, 7 or 8 p.m.

I also had a guy tell me, yeah,

you'll make it there by about 7 in the afternoon.

Yeah, oh.

That was weird.

Yeah, that is weird.

All right, I just Googled it.

Yes, currently more than half of Greek households

I'm goingled it. Yes.
Currently, more than half of Greek households are exempt from any personal income tax. Okay.
That rocks. That feels like a lot.
And you can also, yeah. How do you get on the bad 50%? I don't know.
You got to make a lot of money probably. I think it's a cultural thing.
Just like earn your stripes?

Well, I don't know if it's cultural or not.

I think it's just... Seniority?

I don't know.

I don't know.

No, I think it's a cultural thing because I just...

This is a very funny headline.

Did Greeks fail to pay 89.5% of taxes?

They're just like...

That's actually genius if they say,

what if we just all didn't pay taxes?

They can't audit everybody.

Right.

I think it's cultural.

Yeah, that's good.

Yeah.

All right.

Stick it to the man.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
All right. Stick it to the man.
Yeah. Yeah.
A lot of them just do it as optional. I think we should probably take that.
Yep. Where were we? Oh, MLB All-Star.
Hank's been doing that for years. Lean from the front.
Great tangent. Great tangent there.
MLB All-Star game. All-Star game.
Yeah. It always happens when we talk about non talk about, like, non-football sports.
Well, in this week of sports – But timestamp this as baseball talk. In this week of sports, it's always, like, the all-star snubs, which – the reason I wouldn't mind being an all-star snub is because they would say – you get your own day where people are just mad and they're lobbying on your behalf.
So you get that shine. Yeah, but it's like an afternoon and you also get – you have to be the number one sn snub I know that the Mets fans are mad because Nemo and Lindor my guy Christian Walker dingers only legend he went back-to-back nights hitting two home runs both nights uh he got snubbed Christopher Sanchez Jordan Westberg shout out the O's who who got who got snubbed? Christopher Sanchez.
Even though the entire NL pitching is the Phillies pitching. Someone asked me to ask you, Max,

have the Phillies won a series against the Braves this year? They've played twice. They

lost two series. They're playing tonight.
Were they going to win tonight? I want you

to ask that person the last time the Braves beat the Phillies in a playoff series. Okay,

I will. Also, since we're talking baseball, how did the team pug end up? We got slaughter ruled in the playoffs.
A lot of our team was traveling for the 4th of July, so we had to scrape it. But everyone who was in town went, right? Everyone except for Max.
Max went to 12 baseball games last week. Couldn't miss the game on Tuesday because he had to go on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.
Max is doing load management? I went Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. And our team got slaughter ruled.
Well, Hank didn't even show up to the start of the game. I started the game.
Oh, no, Matt. Where were you? You let the boys down.
I told the boys I wasn't going to be there. You gave them a notice that you were going to let them down? I think Garrett Stubbs recognized me.
Oh, yeah. I think we already talked about that.
I think we mentioned it. Yep.
Cut this. Wait, we didn't talk about this? I think we did.
Max yelled at us at Phillies. Said, let's go Phillies.
No, no, no. This is something different.
Oh, right. That's what we talked about last week.
Yeah, this is different. Max had got a wink from the dugout.
Okay, nice. So we're on show number two in a row of Max screaming at Phillies and maybe they recognize him.
No, I didn't even scream at him this time. Did he or did they not recognize Max? I honestly don't know.
This is now two shows in a row. Because he looked at me, gave me a nod, winked, and then he started going like this and saying, drive the boat, or like, are you driving the boat? And I was like, what? I couldn't picture what that meant.
He said boat? Yes. He thought you were Hank.
Yeah. I think he thought I was Hank.
Yeah. I think he thought I was Hank.
Oh, he thought duck boat. Or maybe the duck boat, or I thought, yeah.
Or I thought maybe he was referencing the story of the beer Olympics. Ah,.
I don't know. I think he was saying it would be a real shame if you crashed your boat.
Yeah. Maybe.
Which was not you. Yeah.
Yeah, which is not me. So the Phillies think that you're Hank.
That's cool. That hurt.
Is that a win for Hank? I think that's a win for Hank. Huge win for Hank.
Yeah. And smart by them.
They're like. They see a guy and they're like, that guy's somehow related to PMT.
Oh, it's Hank. Wow, your hair grew back real fast, Hank.
Yeah. That's tough.
And you're sitting with a little baby bib in the booth right now having to go through. Because you texted me very excited.
You said, we're back. Well, yeah.
I didn't really understand the boat he was getting slaughtered max was getting winks that were for hank kind of yeah who from the phillies is in the all-star game uh it is bryce harper trey turner ranger suarez zach wheeler matt strom no castellanos castellanos is not castellanos in the Home Run Derby would be awesome. It is Bryce Harper, Trey Turner, Ranger Suarez, Zach Wheeler, Matt Strom.

No Castellanos?

Castellanos is not.

Castellanos in the Home Run Derby would be awesome

because it would be just tragedy after tragedy after tragedy happening somewhere.

Yeah, Alec Boehm also, Hoffman.

What's that, Hank?

It would be like a bombing somewhere.

Yeah.

Yeah, it would just be the worst.

A terrorist attack happens.

A terrorist attack slash tornado. Like World War II.
Yeah. Sharknado happens.
All these things happen at the same time. Okay.
What else? That was great MLB talk, boys. It was really good.
Dinger's only going hot and heavy right now. We're off and running.
NHL free agency? Sure. I said my piece.
I think the Blackhawks did a good job. That's my take.
Caps did a wonderful job as well. Celebrini, he's doing stuff.
I think he signed his contract. Yep.
That's cool. Also, hockey should just go away for like a month.
No, that wasn't going to be my take. I was thinking about it.
There are some jerseys, and I like the jersey in general, but the San Jose Sharks, they had a picture of him in the Sharks jersey. I was like, this isn't a real franchise.
It looks kind of like a 1990s video game. Yeah, it's like, let's make a franchise.
I don't know. You just just put on the well the ducks the ducks kind of had that vibe going for them when they were the the uh anaheim mighty ducks yeah and then they just switched it up and now they look like a real hockey team yeah so good luck to celebrini he's gonna be great um yeah i'm trying to think what other what other uh big stories with michael rubens white party Yeah, we were there.
For no one except the people there. We were definitely there.
So sick. That was so sick.
Ah, man. Joe Burrow was there.
Was he? Yeah. He had a sleeveless white button-down shirt.
Good for Joe. And we'll get into this with Joe when we talk to him.
But going into the interview, I was a little worried that Joe's gone Hollywood on us. Yeah, you said that to me before.
Yeah, I was a little bit worried. I can confirm that Joe Burrow is still as cool as he ever was.
Yeah, he's not Hollywood. He's the man.
He's so cool. Tom Brady got picked off by DeMar Hamlin on the beach.
Oh, really? Okay. Because we're doing some loose podcasting right now.
There's not a lot going on in the sports world. Have we come back player of the year next year for DeMar? Well, we're feeling our way back into the podcasting right now there's not a lot going on uh in the sports world we're coming back player of the year next year for demar well we're feeling our way back into the podcasting game how how long is demar hamlin going to get invited to these things i think if he plays his cards right for a long time forever yeah okay good for him i'm not judging him it's just like i saw him pick off brady i was like oh shit is that Tamar Hamlin yeah oh he's there okay and Grant Williams is my favorite like just pops up at all these parties I don't know how that he just he must like wash the dishes or something after like he helps out around the house I have no he doesn't get a straight invite he's like Ruben like Ruben, oh, yeah, Grant, you can come.
Can you just park a couple cars before, and then you're welcome to come in? Maybe someone's plus one. Yeah, who's he dating? I don't know.
Yeah, he didn't even get a tribute video. He's getting a white party invite.
Everybody at the white party should be somebody that gets a tribute video. But I like that Grant Williams is there just because it's very funny to see him to see him pop up and damar good for him just keep keep doing it you think tom let him pick that off i don't know i feel like tom brady was pissed yeah because i feel like anytime tom brady has a football in his hand he's like am i back yeah like am i am i gonna do this uh those are the vp of Players Association, so maybe he's just a great people person.

I don't know.

Grant Williams.

Oh, is he?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

So that might be why.

Yeah.

Wait, so who's the president?

Is that Chris Paul?

I think so.

No, it's CJ McCollum, I think.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

That's right.

That's right.

That's right.

Yeah, that white party, that was cool.

That was really, really cool.

So in all honesty, I think this was the first time that the white party happened that I thought to myself, I never, ever want to be there. No, because it was also like if we were in that, we would know some people, but I think we'd get a lot of people being like, those guys are way too ugly to be here.
Yeah, I would definitely stick out. I would probably be asked to leave the second I stepped in.
Yeah, and I'd spill. I'd spill on myself instantly.
Yeah, and it's a white party. Right, right.
So there's no chance that you would be able to say. Was Embiid there? Oh, yeah.
Oh, of course. Meek Mill was there holding the trophy.
Drake looked sad. I saw one picture.
He kind of looked sad. Yeah.
He's got to have going for worst summer ever. Drake, yeah.
Well, he had the video. Kendrick Lamar's video for Not Like Us came out.
And then- While he was at- While he was at the white party. Which is- And then everyone's watching the video while he's at the white party.
Right. And then DeMar DeRozan came out when the Kings introduced him to Not Like Us.
Yep. So it's just going to- That song's just going to be around for the entire song.
Probably much longer than that.

So I don't know what he's going to do about this.

Yeah, good for the white party.

I don't think Embiid was there.

I don't think so either.

But like Kevin Durant and Devin Booker were there.

Kevin Durant got hurt.

I know the white party happened before

he got hurt.

So when did you think they did the white party?

Nah, I don't know.

Speaking of white parties, we've got an update here from Chet Hanks. before he got hurt.
Oh, fuck. So when did you think they did the white party? Nah, I don't know.
We do.

Speaking of white parties,

we've got an update here from Chet Hanks.

Oh, yes.

White Boys Summer

was created to be fun,

playful,

and a celebration

of fly white boys

who love beautiful queens

of every race.

Anything else

that it has been twisted into

to support any kind of hate

or bigotry

against any group of people

is deplorable

and I condemn it.

I hope that we can all spread love to each other and treat each other with kindness and dignity love chet hanks oh you know he's serious when he ends it with chet hanks not chet hayes yeah so don't get it twisted people trying to co-opt white party yeah white boy summer was supposed to be positive white white white boy summer yeah that's yeah don't don't take it away um i don't thinkiid was there anymore. Okay.
Was Tatum there? Oh, yeah. He brought the trophy.
He did. Because he doesn't have aura if he doesn't have the trophy.
You've got to bring it. Oh, no.
Yeah, that's actually sad. Like, the fact that he brought that as a trophy.
I didn't say it. Hank, you have to admit, the fact that he brings the trophy with him everywhere he goes, he's like, hey, it's me.
That's different. The Stanley Cup is different.
He's like a guy who gets a puppy trying to get a chick. Yeah.
I mean, if you guys won an NBA championship, you'd do the same thing. It's me, remember? NBA champ and Jason Taylor.
I would never bring the trophy anywhere. Ever.
Yeah, you wouldn't follow the trophy around. That's the Stanley Cup.
Big difference. Got it.
Dummy. That's the best trophy in sports.
You can drink out of the Stanley Cup. What do you use the NBA, Larry O'Brien for? A giant dildo? You think anyone's ever brought around the Lombardi trophy? People don't just bring that around.
Absolutely. That's not like a traveling trophy.
No. The Stanley Cup is the only traveling trophy.
That's a fact. I also don't think that you guys are arguing that you guys have aura.
Like if the argument is who has more aura, Big Cat or Jason Tatum, that is not a good sign for Jason Tatum. Yeah, and also I might.
But the fact that you're walking into a party with the NBA championship trophy, it's like, hey, remember me, guys? Yeah. Hey, to finish off the baseball talk, there is no worse trophy than the World Series.
That trophy stinks. Yeah, it's a bad trophy.
That trophy that trophy's just literally like hey how can we make a trophy that looks like it's gonna break at any moment the coolest part about that trophy was when george castanza dragged around the parking lot and it broke everywhere i was like yes that's what i want to see that trophy do it really is it's it's really a blowout when you go from like the stanley cup to the world series like the world series trophy the problem with with it is it looks cool if it's in a glass container, but to actually celebrate with it,

you can't celebrate with it.

Right.

You can't do anything.

You're going to fall down and hurt yourself with it.

Yeah, you're going to break one of those flags.

I would say the crystal ball that they used to have for college football,

great trophy.

That was a great trophy.

Bring that trophy back.

That was a great trophy. I'd trophy back.
That was a great trophy.

I'd put that at power ranking number two, actually.

We should do a Mount Rushmore.

I think we have.

Of trophies?

Yeah, but just be like, you get one pick.

Okay, you want to do impromptu?

Okay.

All right, I'll go first.

Stanley Cup.

Lombardi.

Larry O'Brien.

Low man.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, good pander pick. That was a good pander pick.
Yeah. That was a good pander pick.
Memes? Memes panicking. World Series is still there, memes.
World Series is still there, memes. Would a gold medal work? No.
Not a trophy. Not a trophy.
World Cup. What about a rivalry trophy? Yeah, Paul Bunyan's axe.
Yep.

That's a good pick.

Oh, we could actually do this.

AVN.

All right, we'll do this.

We'll do this at some point.

Yeah, no, we absolutely could do this.

Okay, anything else before we do Who's Back of the Week?

I think we covered all the sports.

I think we got everything brought up.

Yeah.

All right, let's do Who's Back of the Week.

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Hank, who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week is wild.

Okay.

Shout out to Jake.

I saw a very wild stat today, speaking of golf. Don't.
What are you going to do? Okay, go ahead. This is wild.
We'll be the judge of that. What is your stat about? Living.
Oh, okay. I thought you were going to talk about that stat that's going around that's very mean that just has every single Chicago sports team ranked this past year, and they're all in last place.
I wasn't. I'm pro Chicago.
I want Chicago sports to be well. It's Bears last NFC North, Bulls fourth central division, Cubs last NLC central, NL central, Blackhawks last Central Division, White Sox last AL Central.
3-7-9 combined winning percentage. Interesting they don't have the draft order on there, though.
That's true. Number one pick, Bulls had the 11th.
Blackhawks had the 2nd. Hank, are you going to address the necklace? Oh, yeah.
I got my Jalen Brown necklace. I'm bio-streaming chemicals into my insides without having the side effects of things like caffeine.
So I get all the effects of them. You don't like coffee? It uses small musical frequencies to activate the cells.
Is that the buzzing we hear? It's nanobots. No.
Okay. But yeah, it's awesome all right so what you should get one pf t i love it do want one very much can i can i get a hit of it you want some streams you look like honestly it looks cool it looks stylish kind of like a dog shot collar though yeah dog shot collar uh yeah it looks like some type of um i keep thinking it's a visor that you're going to put on.
In the picture on the thing,

in the brochure, they had a lady that wore it like this.

I don't know how you tighten it,

but she had it around her head like a visor.

Oh, your hair grows fast.

It does really.

Let me get a hit. All right, so what's your stat?

It's not the insult stat.

Yes, I saw everyone tag me saying,

don't let me see this.

I saw it many times.

For the last three years,

each winner of the John Deere Classic

has stayed in the same rental home

I'm not sure. I saw everyone tag me saying, don't let me see this.
I saw it many times. For the last three years, each winner of the John Deere Classic

has stayed in the same rental home in Illinois.

Whoa.

It's officially the trophy house.

Davis Thompson, Sepp Straka, JT, Pauston.

How do you get this over your head?

In the same exact place?

Same rental home.

Holy shit.

That's wild, right? That is wild. Big tournament, a lot of big field, pretty random golfers.
That was about life? What? You said it was about life, the stat. I said wild.
Wild. I said golf.
Oh, golf. So how much is that? Oh, I think you said life, but you meant to say golf.
I think you said living. Yeah, I think you said living and you meant to say golf.
Or living in the house. I don't know.
No, I think you, life, but you meant to say golf. I think you said living.
Yeah, you said living. I think you said living, and you meant to say golf.
Or living in the house. I don't know.
No, I think life is golf synonymous for you. Living.
Living is golf. If you can't golf- You screwed that up, and yeah.
I don't think so. If you can't play golf- No, you said life, living, and you meant to say golf.
You said it's about living. Yeah.
So you're like, if I can't golf, then I die. Yeah.
True. But yeah, it's wild.
That is wild. How much do you think they're going to be able to sell that house for next year I mean yeah I don't know how the bidding process goes for getting that house but if you're playing in the John Deere and you're not trying to do whatever you can to get in that house you could win it rent it right now for next year man I'm fucked up off this necklace it's good stuff right you're probably feeling much better yeah i'm feeling how excited are you for this uh golf tournament we're going to my balls now i'm gonna be sick i'm very excited also we're not golfing i had to break that to hank today no i thought you were well no this was about a video i thought at one point you were golfing i knew i wasn't no they thought you were golfing and we were filming so the the tahoe the chill week uh we've always wanted to go to this tournament there's like a ton of people we want to interview it's going to be awesome um but so when we were setting this whole thing up the american century uh celebrity golf tournament people have been super super nice we're like so pumped to be out there they asked us if we wanted to play in the program they're like what are your handicaps and i think we made the right decision we're like this is a bad idea because there's going to be a lot of people standing around and we might kill someone yeah that that was our big nervous moment we were thinking about doing the program thing with brooks last year at the live tour where there are going to be people that are potentially standing on the sides of the t-box yes and that's bad yeah so we're not golfing but we will be there i think we're caddying for a couple of the guys we're going to do some videos we're going to get some awesome interviews for the awl some like really awesome ones i'm very excited about a bunch of them are we allowed to take like celebrity shots maybe we can have for the celebrities we can ask i think i've seen i've seen people do it well the problem is i don't know what the vibe like i think guys really want to win this like our i thought the stuff you guys are doing is like the practice round we are is not like it's not like still i want to win but blake griffin takes golf very seriously yeah i don't think he wants Oh did you guys see I saw a TikTok account They're bringing back honking in people's backswings And it's so fucking Jackass when they bring the air horn up to the golf course I love it so much I watched an hour of these TikToks The other night Just okay and they would just they would honk in the backswing and and someone else from the foursome would stand up and they would just like kind of fake them out and they would still honk in their backswing and then they'd drive off i used to do that when i was just driving by the golf course in my hometown when i was like a teenager just got my car i would just drive by the golf course every hole i would just lean on the horn because what are they going to do they can't they can't chase you you don't think it's funny hank no you don't which sucks because it's very it's funny it's so funny it's so funny like why can't baseball players they swing when people are like honking and and making noise and whistling in their backswing all the time why can't a golfer do it i think people are cheering the whole time would be one thing you can get used to but the the silence oh this sucks you are probably the same guy that said it's not cool when people post videos of them running over their friends with the golf cart those videos are funny those are very funny right honking in a back swing is funny yeah yeah yeah i he does he's still he doesn't think it's funny it's funny but i don't want to say it's funny and it you know it happens to you it's not funny because you it'd be funny It'd be like remember when I was shooting free throws And the kid just yelled out the window Hank that whatever Patriots fucking suck Yeah I missed my free throw And it was funny Yeah it was a very funny moment Yeah Okay PFT your who's back My who's back of the week is Archie Manning.
Yeah.

Archie Manning's back.

This was, I believe, on Tuesday of last week, Wednesday of last week.

The Clarion Ledger posted an article and a tweet, and it said, Archie Manning, Ole Miss

football legend, dad of Eli, Peyton, grandfather of Arch, is 75.

Yeah.

Everybody thought that Archie Manning was dead. I 100% did read that headline you think is dead at 75 and then you go back and you reread the headline and you don't know what the fuck they're talking about with this art like why is this an article yeah you have to assume that arch's 75th birthday is today no when you read that plot that.
Plot twist, it's not even his birthday.

He turned 75 on May 19th.

Yeah.

So for some reason, they just decided to write an article about his age, his best life accomplishments,

how you know him, and then just ended the sentence.

I guess they've been doing this.

Oh, this one newspaper?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then Florio took him to task big time like spider-man meme yeah so uh florio has never pronounced anybody dead mike florio announced that terry bradshaw died 12 years ago listen it's the kevin durant clickbait game it is what are you gonna do you gotta get the clicks so but it was a very it was a very funny headline because everybody thought that Archie Manning was dead for a second and then he's not dead and listen I don't want to get into talking about John Cena he did announce that he was retiring from wrestling in the ring um but it would be cool if you were Archie Manning just you'd probably get some people saying nice things about you and they're like oh shit he's still alive yeah I stand by that take do you think that if we had john cena on at some point in the next year which i think he's doing a year-long retirement uh ceremony if we're like hey like you think lebron will retire he would say that's not funny to me i just some people just retired recently i'm going through that myself do we want to get him back on the show sure yeah john cena absolutely yeah absolutely i i think john cena is one of those uh guests that we have on every like four years just enough time passes that he just forgets that we exist and then he comes back on he's like oh these guys if he comes back on we will definitely ask him how cool it was when people thought that you were dead for a second yes that is a promise back we'll run it back. We'll run it back.
And we'll see what his reaction. It might be totally different.
Yeah, because he, well, unless he has someone die. Yeah, we got to make sure that everyone around him is safe.
Yeah, but I definitely want John Cena back on. Because, yeah, he's in that list of, like, I don't think he has any idea who we are.
Although that one time he did want to fuck my belly button. Yeah.
But enough time passes where he's like, yeah, I'll do this podcast. And he doesn't realize until he's in the interview where he's like, shit, these guys again? He does so much media, too, that there's a good chance that he might just forget.
Okay, we're going to try to get John Cena on. Talk about his retirement.
Come on the show, John Cena. Yeah.
Okay, my Who's Back of the Week. I have two.
One is Joey Chestnut, still the GOAT. So on July 4th, I don't know if you guys watched.
I did not. The Nathans.
I did not. I did not.
They didn't have it on in Greece for some reason. The winner who, listen, I feel bad for the guy because he basically, like, he didn't ask for this.
He just went and won. He ate 58 hot dogs.
Joey Chestnut in 10 minutes. Joey Chestnut did an event with the troops.
He ate 57 hot dogs in five minutes. That's pretty good.
That's pretty impressive. There's an asterisk around.
Was it Brillatoni that won? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, big asterisk.
Yeah, I feel bad for him. That's not his fault.
He just went and competed. It does show us.
But it sucks because everyone's like, dude, that's not real. Joey Chestnut is the biggest thief of joy we've talked about the the tom brady's of the world the uh patrick mahomes is that have taken joy away from so many different good quarterbacks and good fan bases joey chestnut is like that for anybody that's ever eaten anything yes like you'll never these these other guys are great eaters in their own right and they'll never be known because they're not joey chestnut yeah no it's a fact um

all right then my other who's back is uh i guess blowing up spots i don't know if you guys saw this headline but the daily mail on july 4th i'll read a headline let's read a headline together meet derrick blasberg hollywood socialite accused of fleeing gwyneth paltrow's hampton's home after catastrophic diarrhea who counts Jeff Bezos and Demi Moore as pals.

So basically Gwyneth Paltrow's Hamptons home after catastrophic diarrhea, who counts Jeff Bezos and Demi Moore as pals. So basically, Gwyneth Paltrow got on the phone with the Daily Mail after this guy left and said, I want you to put an article about how bad his diarrhea was.
So I don't know if it was Gwyneth Paltrow, because the whole article basically says this guy is so connected, but he's not like an A-list. People don't really know who he is and apparently the the diarrhea was so bad the story just like word of mouth got back to the daily mail it's crazy but he got yeah look uh he first of all he blamed he tried to blame ozempic which is so funny that he's like oh i had ozempic diarrhea the internet was whipped into a frenzy last week when a blind item in a popular gossip newsletter claimed that Goop founder Paltrow had been faced with cleaning up someone's Ozempic-induced diarrhea at her home.
Insiders later told Daily Mail, Blasberg, once described as one of showbiz's most well-connected men, was the culprit and that he had conveniently blamed the incident on the popular weight loss wonder drug before allegedly fleeing the property and then it goes on to say uh it's not ozempic that's just what he told everyone the insider said before revealing how the secret made it way through the hampton set ready for this when it told oprah jerry and jessica seinfeld and larry david and then it went from there somehow through the grapevine to so this guy's diarrhea was the talk of the town this is crazy so this guy derrick blasberg he has he has interacted with gwyneth paltrow in the past online they're friends they're friends and he's saying they're saying now it was not ozempic related no they're saying it's not ozempic related and then it basically became the talk of the town in the hamptons and then finally it ended up on the front page of the daily mail on july 4th just blowing up this guy's spot uh yeah he the guy is the guy's weird they talked about uh gwyneth paltrow meeting him for the first time and paltrow admitted she had questioned if blasberg was simply a professional hanger on when i first met him i was a little dubious i was like are you a professional best friend of celebrities and why are you everywhere at once what's your deal after 10 seconds i fell completely in love with him sounds like she just fell for the professional hanger on she admitted she's like this guy is a professional best friend of celebrities oh my god i love him this guy's got diarrhea in my house this guy's got 245 000 twitter followers i would and now he's just diarrhea guy now he's diarrhea guy like you could do everything you could you could have all these friends you could write i think he's a journalist you could write a book but you do one bad diarrhea in gwyneth paltrow's house you're diarrhea guy derrick blasberg. Maybe if this Derek Blasberg guy is such a good friend to celebrities, maybe it was somebody else's diarrhea, and he's putting his hand up and taking the blame for it.
You know what I'm saying? I don't know, man. What if it's Gwyneth's diarrhea, and he's such a good pal? He's like, just tell Oprah it was mine.
But I think he is the exact guy. That would be a normal thing for a regular person to do.
But if his job is to be a professional hanger-on, you have to be like, diarrhea could ruin my whole career. You don't want to be known as the guy that you can't invite over to your house.
He's got diarrhea. And now he's diarrhea guy.
Like, forever. Has he made any comment about this? No, but I really want him to because I was thinking about it more.
This sounds like a notes app. I think there are definitely some crimes that you could come back from faster than diarrhea in Gwyneth Paltrow's house.
Yeah. I mean, Marion Barry was arrested for smoking crack and then he got elected mayor of D.C.
Any small drug paraphernalia? Yeah. Don't drink and drive, but a DUI.
Justin Timberlake, that that's gonna be a blip on the radar he's not gonna be dui guy uh i'd even say robbing a bank is kind of cool tax fraud yeah all these things you can definitely bounce back faster than diary and gwyneth paltrow's house and she had to clean it up she had to clean it up herself i'm gonna go to go founder gwyneth paltrow i'm gonna go to his website and see what he advertises here i mean if i were him i would just put on my own website which is derrick plasberg.com i do not have diarrhea right not i the diarrhea is fake news there was no diarrhea and if there were diarrhea it was ozempic diarrhea because that because it's clear he's ashamed of it if he's blaming ozempic this this sounds like which is also just kind of a fuck think about that it's like a fucked up just comment on our society that the guy was like oh it was he's not even overweight and he's like yeah it's the weight loss drug i'm taking that caused the diarrhea and no one was like hey why are you doing that they're just like nah dude that was your diarrhea this guy also might be paid by manjaro true to say that ozempic bad diarrhea that gwyneth paltrow will tell oprah about it true and it's it's pretty fucked up this story because then they just had like pictures of him and his partner and like their two kids being like blasberg welcomed his two children a years ago. And it's the name of his kids in the diarrhea article.
You can also have diarrhea and then not make somebody else clean it up. That's the bad part.
Yeah. Are we thinking just real bad stained porcelain? No.
I assumed that it was in the bed. That he shit the bed.
I think he shit the bed. I don't think this was a bathroom thing.
I think this was a bed thing. He crapped in the bed and then Gwyneth had to clean it up.
All the way to the bathroom and then he just left. He hightailed it out of there.
Derek, come on the show. Yeah, please come on the show.
We won't call you. We'll introduce you as diarrhea guy.
We will not call you diarrhea guy after that. We'll call dg uh max you have a who's back uh not really caleb martin nascar caleb martin also anthony anthony edwards being being the best yeah yeah the clip where he said he's the number one option yeah that was a team nascar is back though we went to the race was awesome.
It did rain. Also had one of the weirdest interactions Hank and I did.
So we were at this thing beforehand, PFT, that was like a bunch of like athletes, celebrities, whatever. Which are always fun when it's random, like Super Bowl party.
Yeah, it was very random. Bumping into people.
It was random. Like we bumped into, like Dana White was there.
I was just like, can we go to the total chaos? Yeah. But anyway, we see Stephen Coletti from Laguna Beach fame.
And we're like, we got to go say what's up. Yeah, I got excited.
Before we could even say what's up, he went up to Hank and was like, hey, Hank. That's cool.
So he's a PMT listener. Oh, shout out him.
Sorry, he sorry he was a pmt listener until i went up to him and i was like hey what's up man he's like hey big cat and i was like hey just so you know i'm a j guy and he was like okay that like i i dated chris and cavallari like 20 years before and i was like yeah but i wanted that clear that i'm a j from the get-go it was was so awkward he was a good sport about it but uh it was awkward that was uh that was such a moment in time yeah the laguna beach era i just listen i'm loyal i'm a loyal guy yeah i'm loyal to my guys that i mean obviously there's a lot of interactions we have with a lot of famous people but it's always the people that you know when i was younger like when i watched laguna beach i was like 11 so walking past him and being like what's up hank yeah i literally thought it was a different person i thought this was steven but the fact that he's talking to me means it can't be steven steven if you're listening to this right now i apologize uh i had to do that i have no regrets but i apologize for making it awkward thank you for listening you're a cool guy also a very good looking guy. We also were told, this is not our finest moment, someone told us that CT of Challenge fame was there and Hank and I both just started going around like fucking drug dogs.
We were just looking for him everywhere. Where is he? Where is he? Didn't find him? No, couldn't find him.
Couldn't find him. I kept hoping.
I was walking. Is he the guy that got backpacked? No.
Oh, come on. I don't know.
I never watched the challenge. He's sick.
He's sick. I never watched the challenge.
He's sick. Did CT get backpacked? No, CT backpacked Johnny Bananas.
Oh, I thought Johnny Bananas. And he tried to eat Adam's brain.
Oh, I thought Johnny Bananas backpacked CT. There was one season.
I got ball sacked. There was one season where CT was just, he clearly, I don't think it was in the right headspace.
He didn't want to be there. And he just beat the fuck out of the smallest guy within like the first five minutes of the season and got kicked out.
He's like, I'm going to eat your brains. You know what would be good Mount Rushmore is rushmore of uh like celebrities that you had when you were younger that are just definitely not really

celebrities to most people yeah no it's just ct is yeah ct for sure is a celebrity that the

the beer games made me think about that show and how like what we did for the beer games was similar

to those shows where they would just get fucked up but like it would just all play out yeah like

imagine like because those fights and like yeah you know those scenes where you're watching like

how are these guys saying this and how is this happening every night they're getting thrown in the pool they just buy them with alcohol yeah yeah and they're just like they're they basically and then wake up and go do a challenge they put them in a house drunk again no cell phones no tv unlimited alcohol go it's a pretty easy formula it works every time no board games they never they're never playing like scrabble in the last uh interaction we had uh the beef with joey logano is still on good yeah joey slogano yeah so i went up to him and i was like hey we you blocked me on twitter uh will you unblock me he's like well what's your pitch for unblocking me i was like i actually don't have a pitch if you unblock me i'm just gonna tweet you joey slogano Slugano. Yeah, that's it.
Okay, so I'm not going to unblock you.

I was like, that's fair.

Who was the NASCAR driver that came to the studio like a month and a half ago?

Was it Chase?

Yeah, that sounds right.

Was it Chase?

He just won the cup?

Yeah, Chase.

Yeah, so we were playing golf with him in the simulator, and I don't really know that much about NASCAR, so make it small talk.

I was like, you know Joey Logano?

He's like, yeah.

I was like, how much of a dick is he in real life?

And he like chuckled. I was like, I hate that guy.
That's like yeah i was like how much of a dick is he in real life and he like chuckled i was like i hate that guy that's his like closest teammate yeah oops hand up they are but he is slow he is the thing about joey logano slowy he's fucking slow and i am blaney ryan blaney and i told him i said to him i was like hey when you're in your car today just think about how slow you are slogano he is slow and he was dead last for a while. Because he's slow.
Because he was like, damn. I am slow.
That big cat guy was probably right. He probably doesn't know my name.
But that guy who came up to me and asked me to unblock him, he was right. He's slow.
He's very slow. But shout out NASCAR.
We had a great time. We got to walk around the pit row.
They do a great, great job. And they were very welcoming.
What doank no it's just a cool it was a cool big event and in the city it was like yeah it was awesome they were driving the same streets we drive yeah they were i was driving the street on friday and i was like look i saw the fences on the side were you doing were you doing turns it's like i think i'm on the nascar track yeah it is fun to pretend that you're driving n Oh. Talking to people in the pit.
Also news that I got. We have, apparently we have two race simulators in this office that are yet to be built.
What? Yeah. I thought that we couldn't have simulators in this office, Hank.
Yeah. I thought they were too big.
I thought we were getting one. I think we're getting one.
I think we have two. Yeah, we might be getting one back.
What the fuck? Two. Spider was was like we got to build it but i'm so excited for it if we get a massive if like you know the u.s air force wants to do a partnership with barstool yes yes and we will yes build an airplane i will i will sign up yeah i'll enlist in the air force if they if they install it back right now no take that back no no no i want to be very clear about what i'm saying if they install like a real world f-22 raptor uh flight simulator in this office i will enlist in the air force take that back right now what are you then gonna are you out i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna go awol enough am i what oh yeah you might be too old i don't know what the rules are.
Shit. I'll try to enlist.

I'm tall enough. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know if you're... I think we might be too old.
I don't think they'd take us anymore. That's kind of sad.
Why would they? Yeah. Why would they? Because I'm an excellent pilot.
Oh, this is weird. On my flight back from Greece, we land, and then the pilot gets on the speaker, right? And he goes, I want you guys to notice that awesome landing that was just pulled off by our co-captain on this flight.
He's my son. This was our first father-son flight.
It was like a little LeBron Bronny. Yeah, a little nepotism.
Oh, no, you're good. You got three years.
Okay, there we go. If we get an F-22 Raptor flight simulator in this office, I will enlist in the Air Force.
Has to be full. They take 39-year-olds? 17 to 42, Air Force.
Fuck yeah. Wow.
Army, 17 to 35. Coast Guard, 17 to 41.
Yeah. Dude, if it flies, it dies.
Okay. Let's get a simulator.
Yeah, we have a racing simulator coming up. Marine, 17 to 28.
That makes sense. That makes sense.
Okay. Okay, let's get a simulator yeah we have a we have a racing simulator coming up marine 17 to 28 that makes sense that makes sense um okay let's get to our interview with joe burrow this interview is brought to you by body armor sports drinks real hydration real ingredients packed with electrolytes vitamins and nothing artificial body armor sports drinks has all your hydration needs covered sports drinks light zero sugar flash iv and of course sport water body armor sports drinks are available at all major retailers walmart amazon etc go get body armor right now it's the greatest drink ever created okay here he is joe burrow okay we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

One of our good friends.

You can't tell the history of part of my take without this man.

It is Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback.

First of all, great to see you, Joe.

Great to see you guys. It's been too long.

I actually want to compliment you at first because I think we haven't had you on since 2022.

So before we do interviews, I always try to look and see if someone's on another podcast. You basically only do this podcast.
You did one other. I've done one other podcast.
Yeah. But I have gone off the podcast train for a while.
Yeah. You're ride or die.
I think I've done your guys' podcast. This will be the third time? This will be the third time.
And I think I've done a total of four. Okay, so I just want to say I see it and I appreciate it very much.
Welcome home. Yes, absolutely.
Also, I want to compliment you. I don't know if the cameras caught this, but right when the interview started, Joe fixed his hair.
And then that thing fell down naturally. Does your hair thing fall down naturally?

It does, yeah. I get out of the shower, I push it all back, and then that thing goes right there.
It goes rogue. That's very cool.
So we were going to interview Orlando Brown before you. We didn't get a chance to do that, so I'm going to ask you the first question I was going to ask to Orlando Brown.
That's good. That's a good interview trick.
Has Joe gotten to Hollywood now that he's in fashion shows in Paris? Some might say I've gone Hollywood. I went Hollywood for a week, and now it's time to walk in for football.
So I think I'm allowed one week of Hollywood, if that's – Yeah, I think so. I actually respected your answer when you said, I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone a little bit.
Yeah. Try something new.
It's definitely out of my comfort zone. Does that just mean paris that's just wearing suits with no back is that what that's all the above man you think it's all the above are the bros gonna be wearing backless suits i think so i think backless suits are in good i'm in i'll wear i think you guys should wear backless suits yeah for some whatever event if you guys have next takey's if yeah maybe the takey's that's good it doesn't even have to be – you can just cut it back out of a suit.
You don't even have to make it tailored. Just cut it.
It is showing your range that you were – what was that? Was it Paris Fashion Week? It was Vogue World Fashion Show, yeah. And now to part of my take.
Two of the highest of high class. Yes, I agree.
High society. Yeah.
Wait, so what happened when you showed – did you know you were wearing a backless suit i showed up and they gave it to me and i said sure okay that's that's cool yeah have you uh been roasted any group chats with the boys i've been roasted in just about every group chat i could possibly be roasted in yeah but you did look cool when you did it i did look cool and i was fully prepared for all of the criticism and roasting i knew it was coming my way listen i'm just gonna throw this out there if you ever need us like we could be like a tag team partner you tag us in you just throw us in your group chat for like a day and we just roast back and then you can kick us out i'm all for it yeah yeah you don't even have to say you don't even have to say who it is just like bring in a new number and then let that person go to town until they kick us out back the suits are in i don't know if you guys are losers for not realizing i'm with that big time um all right so i read a report uh that you are they that you are bigger and stronger than in years past correct you are yes how much bigger and stronger 10 15 pounds ish okay yeah stronger stronger how do we quantify that yeah you tell me how do you want me to quantify you look so strong how many push-ups can you do i haven't done any push-ups with my wrist this year okay all right all right fair bad question by me squats squats um yeah i could squat a little more how much stronger do you feel i feel a lot stronger like if you were 100% strong years ago what are you now 120 wow that's good joe burrow so that's the headline right there joe burrow feels 120 strong there you go that's good yeah there was there was a moment a couple months ago when i feel like half the internet got tricked and they thought that you had really long i know i wish i had that yeah i don't have the patience hair. Yeah, I was like, do these people not see pictures of Joe Burrow where they know that his hair was never in that in-between phase? I think he just showed up one day with a Beatles haircut.
Yeah, I could have got some extensions, I guess, but that was a pretty sick mullet. Yeah, it was.
It did look good. Was it the Star Wars haircut? Yeah.
Yeah, it was good, but I was also shocked by how dumb people online were to get... Everyone felt like legitimate news-breaking NFL accounts were like, wow, look at Joe's new look.
Lots of lies about me out there, I would say. Yeah.
What do you think the biggest lie about you is? Well, I had a bunch of people hit me up this week asking me if I was turning 30 this year. Uh-oh.
And that's just not even close. How old are you? 27.
Okay. Yeah, because this happens to us.
us people call us 40 and we're actually 39 and a half it's completely different so it's way it's crazy people would do that to you i wonder how that rumor got started did you know that joe burrow is 30 yeah i don't know i probably it's probably a rival fan base because i've been thinking about uh like jordan love i i obviously hate the packers but i've been thinking about about just saying Jordan Love is about to turn 30 because he's about to – I think he's in his fourth year.

He's in my class.

Yeah, right.

So I think I could get away with that just being like, yeah,

if you want to sign a guy, he's about to turn 30.

You can get away with just about anything on Twitter these days.

Well, also, he went to school in Utah in the States,

so some people might be like, oh, he probably went on his mission overseas.

He's 32 years old. Right.
Okay. Yeah, Jordan Love is actually 32 years old.
Wait, so you're 27. When's your birthday? December.
Okay, so you're going to be 27 for the majority of the season. Yeah.
Yeah. That's pretty good.
You're still, and quarterbacks, come on, 27 is young. I got a good 10, 15, I would say, left in me.
Is that the plan? Like 15 years? 15, 42? See how the career plays out until then yeah so i i uh saw an interview of you where you said that you were thinking about maybe trying to join the usa flag football yeah that'd be sick wouldn't it yes we need you because we just lost to japan who what the u.s lost to japan in what in flag football today no we didn't i think it was real football it was was it real football i think it might have been real football. So the world's catching up.
So I think it was like 41 to 20. They kicked our ass.
Wow. That's real? Yes.
I think so. Okay.
We also could use it in handball if you want to do that. I'll stick to the football shaped.
Okay. Because handball, you dominate.
Yeah. I don't know the rules of handball, but I'm confident I could pick it up.
Yeah, you throw it in a goal. It's water polo without resources.
And we have a long feud with the handball community because they're like, no chance could U.S. win.
I'm like, dude, yes, Joe Burrow could be an awesome handball player. Yeah, if all the best athletes just trained handball from when they were five.
Exactly. Not even.
LeBron and KD and Miles Garrett playing handball. They actually call traveling in handball, so LeBron maybe not.
But, yeah, Miles Garrett. I feel like that dude could do just about any sport.
Oh, I got the biggest lie told about you. People use you as the NBA to NFL, NFL to NBA debate.
They're like Joe Burrow could drop 20 because I think you might have said that. I could spot up in the corner and hit some threes, yeah.
Okay. guarding those guys and i'm not dribbling and they're going to steal it from me but i could play with lebron and stand in the corner stand in the corner a couple threes yeah so if you have to bring the ball up it might be a problem that would be a problem defense i mean i could play great team defense okay but i'm not that's good any individual i'm very confident in your defense yeah like i'll get'll get everybody situated in the 2-3 zone.
Call out picks. Yes.
Like I'll be standing in the corner guarding the guy in the corner. And then I'll go to the other corner and do my thing in that corner.
And I'll just go corner to corner. I did notice that you got a small look in your eye when you found out that we lost to Japan.
Like I think you really want to play for the Olympics. I think that's disappointing.
I really want to play for the olympic flag football team yeah yeah it's gonna be awesome like me jamar justin now you're just naming your friends yeah me and my friends if joe's a guy that could be like yeah me and like my best friends could beat anybody in the world in football it's true which is a cool thing to say that's a very cool thing i think it'd be really cool would be really cool. Yeah.
Yeah, I think you can do it. We can't lose the gold medal the first time that we have that in the Olympics.
It just can't happen. Yeah, that would be embarrassing.
I had another question for Orlando here. Orlando, who's the best quarterback that you've ever played for? So he's played for Lamar, Joe, and Patrick Mahomes.
Time will tell yeah it's a fair answer i like that answer or do you think do you think people have forgotten about joe burrow i believe that yeah that's what happens when you get hurt though you don't play football people forget about you yeah which i kind of i like the spot you're in right now because i feel like i love the spot yeah like afc everyone's like oh well you know you know josh lamar and patrick cj stroud it's like you're forgetting one guy yeah i agree yeah but again that's part of the game you don't if you're not out there and people aren't watching you then there's nothing to talk about yeah so i'm gonna give people to talk about something to talk about this year well i'm excited about i feel like the spot that you were in last year must have been tough for you because I don't know how involved you were with the team as you're on the sidelines, but being in that situation where your team's playing meaningful games and you just want to be out there and you're just like chomping at the bit, unable to be there, I feel like that has to take a small toll mentally at least, right? Yeah, very difficult, but I would say, you know, this injury was different than my previous ones because you know it was my wrist so I was like I couldn't throw and I couldn't do my job but I could still grind in the weight room and get all my workouts in and so my offseason started you know 10 to 12 weeks earlier than everybody else's and so I think that gives me kind of a leg up on the year but But definitely watching you guys go out there and play meaningful football is tough. But I was excited for Jake because – Great family.
Great move by you. Great family.
You're sweet up. Yeah.
So that was a great – Well, I'm not using it. So why would I not give it to him? No, you did America a favor.
That was one of those moments where we forget that we actually have a big podcast because we complimented Jake's lovely girlfriend. And then I was like, I wonder if he's a fan.
And then I saw he followed us. I was like, hey, man, great game.
And he's like, yeah, I'm a listener. Hey, what? And I was like, okay, no, we were very nice.
Yeah, we were very polite. Appropriate.
Okay. But that was nice of you to give him the sweet.
Sure. Yeah.
Yeah, not so um we we talked about this before we sat down but uh this is the day after beer olympics i mean big cat are sweating out coars light right now we're replenishing with body armor which is great shut up body we're getting very hydrated um but every time we interview it feels like we are at death's door the first time we definitely were well maybe not quite because i was still feeling pretty good from the night before yeah but we weren't yes you remember pft's question that went nowhere i was actually trying to remember that on the way over and i was like how awesome was it that this year you just like beat every team you just destroyed every team but in the true spirit of that i asked hank to write a question for this interview because he's hurting hank is like a hundred times worse than we are right now and it took hank an hour and a half i had to remind him constantly like hey you got to get a question to me took him an hour and a half and this is the question that he came up with and it's not even a question it's just like joe burrow likes to sit crisscross applesauce yeah it's comfortable so that's that's hank's that's hank's question that's's Hank's comment yeah so you like crisscross applesauce I'm pro yeah I that's how I've always kind of sat it's just my external hip rotation is probably better than most okay I don't even know what that means crisscross applesauce is comfortable for me so like when we're sitting like this does this mean that we have good external oh yeah you're probably crisscross applesauce guy I could be I just sit like this because you don't look like i don't look like a crisscross applesauce i just want people to think i have big balls so i can't sit like this but i can sit like this so you can i just let everyone know what do you think about that guy right there max yeah that's how he sits crisscross applesauce yeah he looks like a sumo wrestler he's our little big baby it's great uh what i said at the start though was true the the we can't tell the the story apart in my take without Joe Burrow because that was, I would say, one of the funnest interviews we've ever done. Yeah.
And one of those moments that, like, we point to him as we go through our history. And we're like, that was a big break.
That was a big break. But getting to interview the Heisman Trophy winner, national champion, six hours after you won a title.
Yeah. So I want to thank you.
And also also would you do the same if you ever win a super bowl yeah locked in nice work we can't that was good i got that i got that yeah i did love how how in that interview coach o was still in coach mode and he was like walking around the hotel lobby like screaming at players that they're going to miss the bus yeah and they're like we don't care if we miss this joe was not letting anybody miss the bus yeah do you still keep in touch oh hell yeah yeah he's down and he's living in miami right now doing his thing yeah but uh yeah we stay in touch he's great friend by the way i did a bad job of asking that question will you come on pardon my take the morning after when you win a super bowl sure yes okay i said if yeah yeah when you Bowl. Yeah, when you win a Super Bowl sounds better.
I feel like maybe this year. We'll just pencil that in.
Yeah, okay. We'll say that.
You don't have to say that. We could stay an extra day.
Oh, New Orleans. Joe's, he's, oh my God, it's perfect.
It's perfect. I don't even know if that's the right word.
What a storyline. Yeah.
Yeah, so I was also trying to think because we need to figure out how to recover better as human beings from nights like last night. And I remember reading something that you go to bed every night at 8 p.m.
During the season. During the season.
During the season. So in the off season, you stay up later as a treat? Yeah.
Wait, you don't watch Monday Night Football? I do watch Monday Night Football, but I'm in bed. Oh, so you go to bed, but you don't go to sleep.
I don't watch the full game.

I'll watch, like, the first half, but I am asleep probably by 930.

Yeah.

Okay, yeah, because in the fall that would make more sense.

I was thinking that in the springtime it's like it's fully light outside.

You can't go to bed.

I'm up.

I've got some gaming nights that I have.

Yeah.

Off season I'm enjoying life a little more for sure.

I'm always jealous of people who can go to bed early. It's like a superpower.
I mean, I'm pretty dang tired during I have. Yeah.
Yeah. Off season, I'm enjoying life a little more.
I'm always jealous of people who can go to bed early.

Yeah.

It's like a superpower.

I mean, I'm pretty dang tired during the season.

Yeah.

But still, it is a superpower because even if I'm tired, I'm like, I got to squeeze the

last hour out of this day doing nothing.

Yeah.

And then it hurts me on the other side.

It definitely hurts you in the morning.

Football season's tough for us, too.

Yeah.

But we can't go to bed early.

Yeah.

So it's probably harder on us than it is on you.

Maybe.

Way harder. What would you say toio state fans that try to claim you um i didn't play football there i mean i practiced football there did a lot of practicing i did a lot of practicing and lifting you graduated i graduated i i would say i usually tell people that i went to school at ohio and I played football at LSU.
That's good. I like that.
I got a lot better from practicing at Ohio State, but I didn't get to play, so I don't really say that I played there. I think that's a fair answer.
I still have relationships there that, to this day, that I care about in that building, but I didn't play there. Yeah, LSU is your playing home.
Yeah. Do you feel anything when Michigan plays Ohio State? Not as much as the LSU rivalries, I would say.
Yeah. You never lost to Michigan, right? No, we were 3-0 when I was there.
Yeah. Interesting.
Very interesting. Never lost to Michigan.
Maybe that's what Ohio State fans – you can't claim joe burrow but you could say we never lost with joe that's true yeah uh is jamar chase open right now he's always open always open yeah always open are you is there ever a moment where he's like dude i'm open you're like i got it i got i understand please stop telling me i get it no i love when receivers come and tell me that they're open because if they're open that usually usually means they are, so I'm going to try to throw them into the ball. Yeah.
But he is – so he's always open? I mean, yeah, for the most part. Yeah.
If he's coming to the sideline and telling me something, I'm going to listen to that guy and I'm going to throw him the ball because it usually works. Yeah.
That's how we work on this podcast. Big Cat's always open.
I'm open. So I can kick it right now to Big Cat.
And I can be like, yeah, hey, Joe, remember when you said that players should taunt? I agree with you. Why can't? I don't really understand.
Always open. I think if you're getting paid to play football, you can taunt.
I'm all for not taunting in college and high school, but once you get paid to play, I think we should be able to taunt and nobody's gonna get their feelings hurt like we're all big boys we're gonna be okay yeah and if you're in the locker room and you hear the stuff we say to each other in there it is a million times worse than like pointing at a guy and being like huh first down you know? That's the part I think a lot of the media misses is like a locker room when you go through the trials and tribulations of a football season, like it's not a regular – you're not going to a 9-to-5 work job. Yeah.
And I always get upset with the anti-taunters where I'm like, you're asking these guys to put their bodies on the line play a super physical game an emotional game and none of these guys know how long their career is going to be why can't they get the most out of it in every way I agree and there you don't see all like the little interactions that you have with other players throughout the game that can kind of build tension and so like people are talking shit the whole game that you don't see and so when you make a play on that guy just like if you're playing backyard basketball and somebody's talking shit to you you're gonna taunt that guy if you score on him yeah like i'm gonna taunt somebody if he's talking shit and then i go make a good play and i'll give you a quick story so when we won we beat the Chiefs in 2021 in the AFC championship I posted a picture cardio glasses I won't even peek at you little baby shout out little baby and then the next year Chris Jones gets a sack to basically clinch the game and he runs up to me after and yells cardio glasses I won't even peek at you yeah and I was I just smiled and like dapped him up I was like you got me that's awesome that's great I love that shit right like why not or like we didn't take it when angel reese did that to caitlin clark that you can't see yes that's great you use somebody's own taunt against them that's good yeah that's awesome yeah yeah it's like sports is all that's why that is what sports is all about right that's why going to texas sucks because everyone's just gonna horns down i don't know why they get so offended it only makes it worse yeah it only makes it worse because it's like it makes us want to do it even more this bothers me okay horns down again they like had the big 12 write it specifically into their rule book yeah that's you can't do horns down that's weird they're doing horns down when we played them yeah and i feel like in the sec i i have an idea that the sec is not going to cater everything towards texas but correct big 12 used to i sure hope they don't ban horns down and yeah now when a receiver spins the ball after making a catch now that's taunting arrest that guy throw him out of the game that was the funniest when roger was like the spinning of the ball is now a 15 yard penalty that was when was that uh it was i feel like 10 years ago they made it yeah remember when uh randy moss? Disgusting. We give Joe Buck shit about that to this day.
Is that Joe Buck? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
He gets mad at us when we bring it up. Disgusting.
Disgusting. He admits that that was his biggest misstep in the booth.
He really regrets saying that. But it's very funny that his biggest regret is making fun of a guy taking his pants off.
I think if I get a rushing touchdown this rushing touchdown this year i might bring back the fake moon that would be awesome it's got to be on the road though that would be awesome yeah yeah yeah do it against pittsburgh okay oh do it against pittsburgh speaking of pittsburgh well yeah hold on i had one question about the taunting real quick i heard you say once that you don't you won't start the shit talking but if someone shit talks to you you'll you'll go back at them yeah i don't usually start it have there been games where there's just no one ever shit talk you yeah definitely does that not like do you do you find yourself missing like a little edge yeah it's not quite as fun right without should talk i wish you'd have done this because now people are going to just never shit talk you you might have to change your policy you might have to start shit talking the thing is i don't sometimes i don't know what to say first yeah like i'm not great at like coming up with shit talk to say on the fly but if somebody says to me then i can i get my wheels turning a little bit yeah yeah yeah i mean in at what point does the line cross between just like saying oh yeah after a play and then shit talk. Well, if I start it and then they don't say anything back to me, I kind of just feel like a dick.
Yeah. And because it's got to be a two way street.
I can't just be out there like spouting nonsense to the world. Yeah.
I would say. Yeah.
I got a very important question for you. Do you have aura? I don't know what that means.
That means you do. That was the perfect answer to it.

Joe Burr's got the most aura.

You have the aura.

Okay.

Yeah.

Whatever you say.

Yeah.

You say, I got it, I got it.

You're doing it more.

This is even more aura.

You're spitting out aura at us right now.

Okay.

Stop.

That's too much aura.

Yeah, no, I think Joe's one guy that you can say in the NFL,

that's an aura guy.

Dude, you just know it when you see it.

Right.

Jaden Daniels, aura. Yeah, I would agree.
Yeah. You like Jaden Daniels? I like Jaden Daniels.
Think he's going to be a good quarterback? Yeah, I think he's going to be really good. I like his motion.
Oh, I like that. Did you see his elbow, though? There was a picture of his elbow.
He had, I don't know if it was bursitis or whatever. It was like all funky looking, but I'm excited to have him because I always go back to a Miami Dolphins-Washington football team two-point conversion back the year before you were drafted yeah and if we had lost that game we would have drafted Joe Burrow to the Washington Commanders yeah and that's a big sliding my life would have been so awesome your life maybe not so great um just I know you don't like that field I got hurt on that field yeah yeah and I don't like that field that field has been the site of a lot of major injuries.
Yes, Alex Smith. What are your thoughts on that? The field needs to go.
Yeah. I'm anti that.
I remember the grass being great. So the grass is good, but sometimes they do this thing where they just spray kitty litter down on it, and then they spray paint the kitty litter.
Yeah, they do that in Pittsburgh. All right.
Jerry, come on the college team pittsburgh plays on saturday and then we get there on sunday and we're like what's all this sand right yeah i guess it's kitty litter yeah i hope it's not but low class low class field low class organization jerry i said it but if you're ever interested in coming to washington we'd be we'd you. All right, Jerry.
So Jersey Jerry, diehard Steelers fan.

He said he has two questions.

He said the third question he couldn't ask.

Yeah, I'm not going to ask the third one.

Okay.

I just don't think it'll fly.

Okay.

Let me read it.

Do you have it?

I think you should ask the third one.

Oh, you deleted it.

Okay.

You can type it when you go back.

You're whispering to me.

Whisper it to me real quick.

No. You can't ask that question.
Okay. ask me after.
I'm protecting you. Yeah.
Here we go. And thank you, PFT and Big Cat for flying me out here for this.
When you played – You were with us yesterday. We didn't fly you specifically.
I went home yesterday. I know, but you were with us.
And we flew him out. Yeah.
All right, Joe. When you play the Steelers, can you feel TJ Watt's presence on the outside? And if so, what does it feel like? Yeah, I can definitely feel.
TJ is a unique player in this league. There's no other defensive lineman that I have to treat like a DB.
Like I have to be conscious about where he's at because he's just going to jump up and catch it.

Yeah.

And there's nobody else that can do that.

So would you say he's like –

is he more of a threat than Miles Garrett, you would say?

I mean, I'm not going to –

I'm not going to –

Fair, fair.

He just goes around.

Miles Garrett lives in the –

That's the different –

Fair.

You have to be alert for him in the pass game,

which is very unique, I would say.

Take the compliment.

I love that Jerry's question was literally, what's it like feeling tj watt behind you yeah my last question is that's actually a good question i think okay would you rather win the super bowl this year you play like shit in it but you never play football again or go to the super bowl for the next five years, you lose every time in the Super Bowl, but you win five straight MVP awards. Ooh.
Wait, he can't play football after he wins the Super Bowl? No, his career's done. I'm one and done? That's it.
That's fucked up. But it's the next five years, and then I can continue to play after that? No, no, no, no, no.
You're saying he's done playing football. Done playing football for good, but you go out and win the Super Bowl.
It's not like nothing happened to him. But if I win five straight MVPs and then I could go out the sixth year and win the Super Bowl.
Yes. Tough one.
That is tough. It's basically guaranteed Super Bowl have to retire 28 or 31.
Nobody doesn't have to retire. Nobody doesn't have to retire.
You can still win a Super Bowl. Nobody's 30.
gonna I'm gonna bet on myself in that sixth year and take the I love that I love that that's good yeah thank you just good answer oh do you want to do you want a game with him what games do you play okay yeah we've game in my no I don't play Call of Duty come on too many there's too many like I'll hop on there I'm a right shield guy oh my god those are the worst guys so i can't i can't shoot with anybody on that game because i'll hop on like once every couple weeks and everybody's already grinded like 38 straight hours yeah i get they know all the camping spots and they know all the head glitches and so i get killed like i get spawn killed and then i just get demoralized and i don't play but i haven't been playing this one because I got to level 55, and then there's an unlock challenge to unlock the riot shield. Yes.
And I can't do the unlock challenge to unlock the riot shield, so then I gave up. Fair.
But would you game with Jerry? Would you game? Yeah, I'd game with you. All right.
Love that. All right.
You'd game with him? Yeah, 100%. Okay, so I asked that specifically because before we got here, I said, are you going to ask Joe if he'd game with you? And Jerry said, I'll never game with a Bengal.
And then the minute he's in front of your face, he's like, oh, yeah, I'll game with you. That tune changed very quickly.
He was adamant, like, I'll never game with Joe. That's wrong.
What other games do you play play really the only game i'm playing right now is my friends from home play pro clubs on fifa okay um star wars battlefront 2 i've been playing a little bit that's kind of it yeah is that like what you do to unwind used to be not much anymore yeah are you getting more comfortable being famous i am i would say so it's very difficult yeah sometimes but i'm starting to just like not really give a shit anymore which i think is good um and it's just a very odd life and so i'm starting to just starting to be a little more open because it came. It became exhausting to try to keep as many things private as I wanted to.
Yeah. So I'm getting better at it.
Yeah. I mean, I can sense that you are.
It's also I always like appreciated that you kind of were open. You're like, yeah, being famous is weird because a lot of people are famous.
Like this is best thing ever it's like it can't be the best thing well so i wear sunglasses indoors because i'm a people watcher yep and now when i people watch everybody's looking at me so i make eye contact with everybody in the room yeah and that is just the weirdest thing yeah yeah and that is weird like every time you look around you get that like jump in your stomach of you know like why are you looking at me over there yeah i'm dying the corner so yeah we get that we get the people people watch us yeah i we we have you have infinite more fame than us ours is more like what's that freak doing yeah he should not be here the best way i ever described it is every bar we ever walk into is a gay bar just for us that's it yeah every dude turns around every girl's like yeah i do i do empathize with women and understand what they must go through yes yeah i've said the same thing i sometimes feel like a hot chick yeah yeah yeah because guys are just looking at me oh yeah bro's here yeah you're like yeah you but in that equation you're like a new york 10 we're like a indianapolis five sure yeah whatever you say and the girls in our situation like who are these losers yeah i would imagine the girls in your situation like joe burrow we marry yeah a little different yeah it is weird though when you talk about fame i don't think that the human brain was ever set up to have millions of other people have opinions about you no right so there's nothing in human history where millions of people could even know your name

and now you've got like enemies you've got haters you've got people that love you that have never met you and it can be very very overwhelming to be able to process that and the fact that you've reached the point where you realize you understand i don't have to give a shit about any of this is a big thing yeah it's a it's a cool step to make also you're not that active on social media I don't think.

Yeah, I don't really enjoy that.

Very smart.

I'm starting to be a little more active i would say because i was pretty active back in the day like in high school i would make some like funny tweets or some funny vines take a picture in a cleveland calves jersey yeah like something like that it's a great picture um and so i'm starting to do a little more of that because i kind of enjoyed that but i just stopped because like social media is weird when you're in my position yeah um because no matter what you say everyone's like oh that's like don't be a group of people like yeah what the fuck yes but uh i would also say i can tell or i can see why some people go crazy yeah especially like people that get famous when they're like 12 or like 13 or 14 yes and I empathize with that yeah yeah I mean I think that also your perspective is probably a lot based on your path because you went to Ohio State and you weren't the starter and you got to live that and then you you obviously blew up at LSU, but you got to see both sides. Where if you had gone to Ohio State and was a Heisman Trophy winner your first year, you might have a different perspective on it.
100%. Yeah.
I wouldn't be the person I am today, that's for sure. I got to live the backup quarterback lifestyle back then, and that was fun.
Got that out of my system, and then I was able to walk in. Yeah.
Yeah. Starting's a lot more fun, I would imagine.
A lot more fun. I would love to be a backup, though.
I would love to be a backup. It seems like a good job.
I mean, it was pretty fun for a couple years. I'd like to be a third string.
You don't have to be that prepared. Yeah.
Yeah, right. Because you're really, like, if you get to the third string, everyone's like, well, we're going to suck anyway.
Yeah. I wouldn't say i was super happy yeah but i did have fun yeah i would say yes yeah yes and so when you say that you've been getting more active on social media i saw that you you did your first dump yes your first photo dump yeah uh which is a big yeah that would be funny i'm gonna get more active on social media let people see my personality here's the shit that i'm talking after eating that would be a dude's rock moment i'll just say you don't have to do it but if you do it i'll support it yeah 100 yeah but doing the photo photo dump is very powerful yeah i like we make the excuse where we say like oh i gotta unload some memory on my phone so yeah here are all the pictures where i look the best that i'm gonna put yes exactly that's exactly what it was and that first picture i was playing chess with a random guy on the street in france and i had him on the ropes and then i blundered my queen away and he dismantled me after that and there was an international chess master that was watching us right there and every move that i make he'd be no be no good.
And then I tried to like, the first time I tried to ask him, he's like, no English. And so he was just chirping me in my ear.
No good. Every time.
It was tough. And you couldn't shit talk him back.
No, I couldn't do it. Didn't understand me.
Is there anyone else who plays chess in the Bengals locker room? My friend Cheeto, he just went to Tennessee. Okay.
He was always pretty good. We used to play.
Oh, no. Is that like a storyline we need to grab onto? Like Joe Burrow lost his chess partner? Yeah.
I did lose my chess partner. That's bad.
You've got to find a new chess partner. I do have to find a new chess partner.
That would be a great way to have like that, the Matthew Stafford Cooper Cup connection where they do breakfast every day. Like somebody on the team that wants maybe more receptions should learn how to play chess every morning.
Me ande play chess you develop this bond together yes i'm with that i like that yeah that's a good way to do it or do you have any do you have any heroes right now because i remember when you were in college one of your heroes was delhi which i always appreciate about you matthew delvadova but as you're at this level do you have like guys that you look up to in other sports still i mean i respect people's skills and what

they do i wouldn't say have heroes though i think my perspective on that has changed a little bit

now that i've met a lot of those people that were my heroes and they're just people and so i would

say my perspective on that has changed over the last several years yeah yeah hey can pop quiz can Can you name who this person is?

Zack Taylor.

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I do know my coach. There's probably a lot of people who don't.
I sure hope not. Yes.
No, I'm saying not Bengals, but I feel like he's got an unassuming look that – Yeah, I would agree with that. When the national public football fans are like, I know that guy's a coach.
Zach Taylor, he's a great coach. Yeah great i feel like maybe that's a part of the reason doesn't get the respect that you i agree i agree he needs a thing yeah thing that makes him stand out like i don't know an earring or maybe like a top hat or like a suit on the sideline he should swap names with his brother press yes because that would be a thing yeah like oh shit this guy's name's press yeah like i remember the first time i met press i was like what what do you mean your name's press yeah that's an interest it's interesting that his their parents went zach yeah and then press i think they're like i didn't like that name let's do this one let's go crazy they're warming up i think they didn't have the confidence after you get one rep in then you're like okay, we can get a little bit crazier with a play calling in the second quarter.
Bress Taylor is a great dude, but also a crazy name. I agree.
Yeah. What do you think the perfect football schedule is in terms of weeks and bye weeks? How many games are we playing? You tell me.
18. 18? Got to have two bye weeks.
I like that. And I think it would be cool to do, I've said this before in an interview like six games or like normal bye week schedule that it is now like have it spread out but then like week 13 do like the pro bowl break where you're doing like the seven on seven and all the skills challenges like the like the nba does because i think that would get more ratings for the pro bowl yes and then it would also give everybody that bye week going into like the last six games my big idea is uh especially now with the expanded college football playoff you do the week before christmas no nfl college football playoffs give everyone a break to go do their shopping yeah i'm with that yeah and then you get everyone reset the whole league is on a level playing field for the yeah and then you have guys that are injured that would be able to potentially come back and you want your best players yes out there as a league you want them in the last six weeks of the season you want your best players on the field so i think that would be a smart idea i think we fix football and then you get the you get the uh president Day Monday after the Super Bowl off.
That's where I was going to ask. When would that Super Bowl then fall? Because that would be a challenge, but that would be perfect.
Perfect. I also think that would be just good for fans where you can just take a weekend to be a normal human being and not have to sit on your couch for 12 hours.
Yeah, and we have to do maybe an Amber Alert out to everyone being being like uh just remember you don't have to say there's no football like i would just tell my wife i'd be like i'm gonna skip the games this week yeah no game because i love you yeah i like that yeah she'd figure it out in two seconds i love you so much more than football so no football today no i'm gonna i'm gonna give it up you'd have to like pretend to check your phone all the time to look at the scores. Oh, no, I'll put this away.
I'll put this away. Yeah, exactly.
Or, like, prop it up in the corner and, like, just play, like, YouTube videos. Yeah, right, right.
We also have a big idea in terms of outfits. So you started to do some cooler outfits going to the game.
Do you bring a losing outfit? Yes. Okay, good.
Because that was – we've always had this problem where if you're gonna wear something crazy the game love it go for it if you lose the game you got to get into sweats yeah you can't show up to the presser in the right in the outfit if you play like shit you lose okay i i like this yeah like cam newton who we like but he used to show up in the top hat after a loss yeah like maybe don't do that i that. I think it depends on what I walk in with.
I wouldn't – there's definitely some that I wouldn't wear to the post-game losing presser. I would show up in my depressed sweatpants.
What's the craziest thing – I mean you probably haven't planned any out, but like what's the one that you've done that you're like that was – I went out of my comfort zone. I wore a – this wasn't into the tunnel, but it was on the plane when we were playing Vegas in 21.
I wore like a sweatsuit that had all these colors and crisscross lines on them with a Dunder Mifflin blue beanie and red. And pulled it off.
I did pull it off. Yeah, you did.
Here's a crazy one you could do, and this is like crazy fashion because I obviously wore the backless suit. What if one week you just wore a T-shirt that just had me and PFT's face on it? With no back? No back.
I'm with that. That could actually be the losing shirt.
Save it for the losing shirt. Walk of shame, backless T-shirts with your guys' face.
That would be an all-time clip if you have to answer a bunch of hard questions after a heartbreaking loss and you stand up and walk out. Does he not have a back on? Oh, what if you did backless pants? Now we're talking.
So that's his chaps? Yeah, assless chaps. Yeah, you think you get maybe a fine from the NFL for that? Yeah.
I would hope so. Yeah.
Yeah, that'd be worth it. It's like remember when LeBron stood up from that press conference and he was in those shorts? No, I don't remember that.
The suit shorts. He had like a suit on, but it was like suit shorts, and everyone was like, whoa, that was what you were wearing, dude? Interesting.
Yeah, leg reveal for LeBron. Does Evan McPherson have your number yet? Evan McPherson has my number yet.
Okay. He didn't before Super Bowl.

He definitely had my number.

I texted him on draft night.

Okay.

He said that he didn't.

I mean, it had to be a lie.

We gave him the business about that, and he seemed like he was very insecure.

I'm sure he was lying.

So how quickly after a guy gets drafted do you reach out?

I try to reach out within a day.

That's cool.

Is it undrafted guys too?

Used to.

Okay. Okay.
So you got to be like – what about a seventh round are we reaching out yeah i try to okay okay undrafted guys get a burner burner cell phone i just got my second phone so i'm just now getting into the burner oh nice that was smart yeah the undrafted guys yeah they have to they have to kind of stick around for a week or two before you can yeah Yeah. As I'm getting older, guys are coming in and out so much.
It's definitely harder to remember everybody's names as you're getting older, I would say. Yeah.
Is the window open? What does that mean? You know what that means. You're that badass quote.
Man, it's always open. There it is.
You're like, yeah, the window's open if I'm here. Yeah.
I was like, that is awesome.

If you don't feel like that, then why are you playing football?

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

That's your life right now.

That's also one of those honest answers that then people are like, oh, he's so cocky.

He's like, no, he's honestly showing you his confidence.

I mean, what do you want me to say?

Like, oh, we got two years left.

And after that, we're going to suck.

And the cap's going to get tough.

And we got to restructure.

We're going to have to make some hard decisions. You should say that.
Be like, oh, secondary got two years left, and after that, we're going to suck. And the cap's going to get tough.
What do you want me to say?

We're going to have to make some hard decisions.

You should say that and be like, oh, our secondary's getting older.

We're going to have to move some money around.

Yeah.

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Yeah, there's the number. Oh, congrats on beating the Browns, by the way.
That was in 2022. We haven't seen you.
Yeah. And it was the only time you beat them.
That was the only time I've beaten them, yeah. What is it about the Browns? They're good, man.
They got good players. But they're not that good and then they they just kind of have your number they got our number yeah miles i mean miles garrett plays a big part of that yeah their dbs are really good they got denzel greg newsome uh emerson over there and then their safeties are really good they got really talented players i'm happy you beat them though because that that's like the one thing and this is a fan's perspective i know you don't give a shit but you never want to have like a quirky weird stat like follow you around for a while i need we needed to get that one i'm hoping we get two more this year right it's like peyton manning won two super bowls never beat florida really yeah you never you i i you could say that anytime beat Florida.
Did he start four years? Yeah. Never beat Florida.
Alex Smith went like a year and a half without throwing a touchdown pass to a wide receiver. I do remember that.
That was fun. You've got to get rid of those.
So you did that. You got rid of the quirky stat.
Because people are going to use those against you. Right.
That's for sure. They just throw it out there.
They never beat the Browns. Which team do you like beating the most? I mean, any division team.
Yeah. Any the chiefs is fun yeah burrowhead yeah do you like that nickname i mean i'm gonna ride or die with my guys so if they're saying it like i'm gonna go with it yeah but i don't would not say i would say that yeah but you would you would nod if i saidhead.
No, you're not on my team.

Burrowhead.

We can't say Burrowhead.

It's low-key facts. We're not allowed to say Burrowhead.

Okay.

I think it's Burrowhead.

This just popped in my head, and we've had Josh Allen.

We actually had Joe Buck on after this,

but how long did it take after the DeMar Hamlin thing for you to like –

for everyone to be like, okay, we're good.

We can play football again.

It was definitely weird. Yeah.
I mean, it got late in that week and i was like guys we were playing football right right because like you don't think about you obviously the stories the bills and damar and it kind of gets lost that you're also on that field yeah and in dealing with similar things yeah it was definitely a challenge i would say but fortunately he was all good and you know he's doing now. And I'm seeing him at all these events, and I'm always happy to see him because he's a great guy.
But that was a scary moment for sure. And it was like you and Josh that really let everybody know, like, let's not play football, right? What did Josh say? Yes.
Josh said it was you and him. i think it was more so our coaches that kind of made that decision but once we left the field i think it was a collaborative both teams were like what are we doing we're not going back out there common sense prevailed yeah thankfully yes yeah um all right so uh i got a couple last questions it's been awesome it's great catching up with you how you.
How's your brother doing? My brother's doing great. He's a big-time PMT fan.
Big time. Yeah.
He's actually like – He's the one that put me onto you guys back in the day. He would come to Baton Rouge, and we would, like, drive to New Orleans or wherever we were driving.
He'd throw you guys on whenever we were driving. Dan, right? Dan, yeah.
Shout out to Dan. Dan Burroughs is the man.
Yes. He's the connector of all this.
We have to thank Dan. That's right.
Yeah. He's listening to this right now.
Dan, thank you. Can't tell the story of PMT.
Open your eyes. You're driving.
Stop. He just got lost there for a second.
Joe, I got a product idea that maybe I know that you're getting into brands recently. Okay.
Is this going to be one of your good business ideas or one you're bad i don't like the tone you just used there they're all my best one yet name one bad business idea i've ever had i mean the last time i was on i think we had a pretty bad one what was that you told me to go to xfl oh no no yeah that was ufl or whatever yeah no that was a private conversation joe and i had i was i was working i was working the phones before the xfl uh back in 2020 and i was like i i think i can get you like 50 mil guaranteed and you should do that let me let me that was that was my worst business let me come into the support of of my co-host here uh the fact that you remember that means it probably wasn't that bad because it left a mark or the really bad ones do leave a mark no the really no anyone that sticks around you're like damn okay maybe there was some truth in that well that yeah that league lasted several weeks yeah you'd be as rich as you are today i was good i was gonna tie it into to body armor okay so i've been trying to invent this product for like 10 years called protein and it's And it's a recovery drink and it's got protein in it, but it also has alcohol in it. So you drink it after the gym as you're pregame to go out.
So the good and the bad even out. It's a neutral.
No, it's just too good. You think alcohol is bad.
Alcohol is good. Oh, they're both good things.
How do you guys feel today? I got a bad. Excellent.
Terrible. I retired.
I retired yesterday. So on the way over here, I was thinking about protein.
And I was like, you know what? I do feel terrible right now. So what if we eliminated the alcohol? It would be a good hangover remedy.
Yes. Because a little hair of the dog with some protein.
That's true. Yeah.
If you do that in the morning afterwards, be good but then i was like what if nobody makes like sleep protein nobody nobody's weaponized sleep yet if we market like aggressive sleep and you drink a protein drink that also has maybe alcohol but maybe like melatonin in it knocks you out yeah overnight your body recovers i like this right now everyone's wasting their sleep they're not getting better when they're sleeping casein protein that's what you drink before bed that is it casein it's the the slow absorbing stuff right so yeah you put that in there with whatever's in nyquil and maybe some booze yes okay you fall asleep and you wake up stronger every day you're pitching me like i'm like i'm well you you got some money i do have some money yeah and you got body armor on your shirt yeah you're an entrepreneur i am not i don't think i have no you got money you could just you don't have to be an entrepreneur you just have to say you're an entrepreneur oh really yeah bill belichick's girlfriend she's an entrepreneur philosopher yeah you could just say you're an entrepreneur like i'm an entrepreneur okay ce. Yeah, so what do you think? You taking it? I mean, probably not.
I would have to see like a little business plan. We'll let Bobby Armour sort that out.
You hear the word probably there? Yeah. That wasn't a no.
It's not a no. That was a probably.
I think it's got legs, but if not, you can always join the XFL again. Okay.
That's probably not. All right, I have one last question.
It's ah-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take also thank you to body armor for getting us here uh we love body armor which are the only water we drink uh only drinks we drink in the office and everywhere uh i've seen you at ufc fights are you tell me your top two fighters right now. I love that you're a UFC fan.
Alex Pereira, he's fighting this weekend. We're going to air this after, so give us a prediction.
Very fun to watch. I think he's going to win.
Okay. This will suck if he loses.
Are you going? No, I'm not going. i'm my friendship was my traveling for the next month and now i'm good i'm locked in okay and then uh sugar okay sean o'malley he's electric he's fun yeah he's electric we've uh hung out a couple times he's a good guy oh nice yeah have you ever been to the tunnel of chaos what does that mean uh should we the tunnel of chaos? I don't know if we can talk about it.
It's a place in Las Vegas that you go, and then you tell them how much money you want to win, and then you win that amount of money. Oh, well, that sounds like a great time.
It's great. And the real reason is you're just gambling with Dana White's money.
Oh, okay. Well, then, Dana, bring me to the tunnel of chaos, please.
Yes, yes. I sits there he's like i've heard stories of his legendary gambling yeah yeah he just gives you money he's like okay now that you lost all your money here just double it next and most places are like you gotta go if you keep doing that at blackjack but since dana i think runs that casino he's like here double it again dana probably owns ve Dana probably owns Vegas at this point.
Yeah, he's doing okay. Yeah, he's doing okay.
Are you having any last questions? No, I think my last question was the business opportunity that he is probably going to accept. Yeah.
Oi, Jerry, come back for one last question. I want you to...
Not the third question, Jerry. Not the third question.
Not the third question. But I know, because Jerry's all he's been thinking about about he just walked right in front of the camera you could you can ask him what you think about what he thinks about uh your guy go ahead yeah honest opinion you're a quarterback russie does he still have some left in the tank yeah yeah i think so there you go sure I know but I say it to everybody And they call me crazy like Jerry you're crazy It's over Russie's You know Why call him Russie Russie's not going to be good anymore Time will tell I think he's going to be really good Oh no shit But like.
But you guys make me feel like, oh, Jerry, you're crazy. That's the great thing about football is you're going to find out in September who has it.
Yeah. True.
Yeah. Prediction, no.
Prediction. Can you give me a prediction? I think he'll be good.
Oh, no. This is a separate question.
You can put your team first. If you were to predict right now

The AFC North

You can pick Bengals first

How do you think the other three fall?

Bengals first and then I don't care

That's the answer

Right now Jerry knows you're a winner

And he's upset about that

The aura is getting to you

There's too much aura

Can I be honest?

I'll be honest

I'm going to be honest

I never liked you

Thank you. But.
But. I'm sitting in the chair and I'm like, fuck, he's cool.
Yeah, that's the aura. I know.
He's the best. So now I got to.
If the Steelers aren't in it, I'll root for you. Okay.
I appreciate that. But if the Steelers are in it, I can't.
Okay, that's all good. But you're cool.

My man.

He loves all the Joe B's out there.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, Joe.

Thank you as always.

You're the best, and best of luck this year.

Yeah, thanks.

Okay, let's do the Mount Rushmore of meat.

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I forgot I had a third who's back. Blooper just terrorizing children.
Did you guys see that article today? That basically was like a kid was crying so bad because Blooper scared him.

He looks like a giant booger.

He's the worst.

He's the worst.

That fat fuck.

Okay, meat, meat, meat.

Meat.

First pick.

I believe Big Cat does.

Okay.

Right?

Do I not? How many have we done? Three. Four.
Three. We can look this up.
Yeah, look that up. Let's get it right.
Let's look this up. While Max is looking that up, quick, Charlotte the Stingray update.
She died. Oh, yeah.
Allegedly. I don't think she's dead.
I think the aquarium, they just got too much shit.

They got caught in their live by certain podcasters.

And they killed her?

And then after they said that she's not really pregnant,

then they had to pretend like she died.

Okay, so I was second last week.

The last one we did, I was second, so I'm first, right?

Yes.

Okay.

Yep.

And it goes clockwise.

Yep.

So I'm last.

Snake's back around.

Okay.

I will go. Meat.
Steak. That's a good pick.
1-1. I love steak so much.
Did you guys have any steak this past week? I did. A lot of steak.
I had a lot of steak. Today at NASCAR.
Yeah. You had daytime steak? It's the fuck.
Daytime steak. Steak is just always there for you.
Yeah. We'll get into more meat.
There's a lot of great meats, but steak is that meat that, I don't know if you guys feel the same way, you say like, oh, I'm eating a big steak tonight. Yes.
Like that's a, that's a get ready plan steak dinner. Let's have, let's do, let's do a steak dinner in Tahoe.
Yeah. Let's do one.
Let's fucking do one. The boys.
So you get all steaks with that. I think so.
You get the ribeye, filet mignon, two bones. We were saying it, we could do a Mount Rushmore of just steaks.
We could, yeah. Another time.
Yeah. But yeah, we were saying like hamburger does not count, obviously.
As steak. Correct.
Yeah, you're not taking beef. You're not taking cow, you're taking steak.
Correct. Steak.
Steak. Flank steak.
Steak. Skirt steak.
Bird steak. Oh, yeah.
Skirt steak.

A little marinade.

Hank.

What about steak tips?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Steak tips.

Hank, you seem shocked that I would take steak.

No, I'm not shocked.

I thought I had the first pick, and that was an obvious 1-1.

So you were going to go steak?

Yeah.

And I'm not doing great this year. You're fine.
Oh, you're not? A little in my head. I'm going to go chicken wings.
That's a good pick. Fuck.
Good pick. Good pick.
Good pick. I had them 1-1.
Don't overthink it. Yeah, don't overthink it.
Good pick. That's like you eat, I think, probably chicken wings more than steak.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's not. Yeah.
But that's... No, I know.
Everyone probably eats chicken more than steak.

Chicken wings is my favorite.

It's actually healthier.

It is.

It shouldn't eat too much steak.

It is the best food.

I would take it 1-1 in a food draft.

Or actually, you should probably eat more steak because it's low carbs.

Max?

Yeah.

Burgers.

Aha.

Good pick.

Good pick.

Good pick, Max.

All right.

Also had some burgers this weekend. I'm going to go bacon.
Good pick. Bacon, I feel like that's a good fourth pick, and then I'm going to follow it up with hot dogs.
Hot dogs. You don't like hot dogs? I like hot dogs.
As a meat, though, the quality of meat in a hot dog is not good, PFT. In Chicago, it is.
I love hot dogs, so I have no problem with this. I was hoping I was going to get burgers and hot dogs.
That would have looked good on a graphic. Hank, does it taste good? Yeah.
It's good meat then. I don't care if it's lips, asshole, whatever they put into it.
I don't want to know. It tastes good.
And I used to be like a hot dog, not a hater, but I used to kind of put hot dogs to the side.

But then you have a good hot dog and you're like, holy shit, this is actually good meat.

Trust tree, I grilled a lot this week for my family and every single time I grilled,

the grill was like kind of, we were on vacation, the grill was kind of like out of view of the kitchen area.

Every single time I grilled, I just ate an entire hot dog or sausage while grilling and then came back

Thank you. the grill was kind of like out of view of the kitchen area every single time i grilled i just ate an entire hot dog or sausage while grilling and then came back and i was like dinner's ready oh i'm hungry hot dogs are great just sitting there eating it and just not letting it you know just way to go shouldn't the mount rushmore meats be something you don't need condiments for i don't need a condiment for i need some sport some sport peppers.
Wait, Hank, you don't need any sauce in your chicken wings? No. Listen, we'll let...
We had dry wings tonight? Dry wings. No seasoning.
Those have a little seasoning, I believe, on them. Yeah.
I don't think it's just... Yeah, Hank, you walked into that one.
Yeah, but you don't eat hot dogs without a bun. What? I guess hamburgers, too.
All right. It's a bad point by Hank.
For the record. No, I think it's a good point.
I think a real meat-a-tician would say that the best meats you don't need anything else for. The best steak you've ever had.
I don't think you're a real meat rider because I think that hot dogs are delicious. Now it's getting personal.
Yeah. I love hot dogs.
I eat them raw, but most people don't. Can we put them as glizzies? You eat them raw? Raw dogs.
No, I think they have to be hot dogs. Two buns.
Two buns? No, I used to do that. Okay.
What? Max. Chaser bun.
I'll take fried chicken. That's a good pick, Max.
Good pick. I also had that on there.
Okay. Strong start by Max.
Hank. I am going to go with...
Come on, Hank. Better be a good one.
All right, should I go with option one or two? Two. One.
I don't know. Just pick.
Ribs. Fuck! Good pick.
Hank, let me ask you. Do you put any condiments on your ribs? Nope.
What was the other one? No sauce. No sauce.
Don't worry about it. So I agree, Hank, that like ribs should go over hot dogs.
Yes. I love hot dogs.
Ribs should have gone over hot dogs. I had ribs higher on my list.
I just went with hot dogs. Ah, fucking A, man.
Ribs. Damn it.
Ribs is good. Great pick.
good great pick that was gonna be my pick i thought for some reason i was gonna get all the way back ribs would have been okay i'll go with my pick come on you hey don't don't know don't Don't do that. Don't do that.
I didn't do that to you. I didn't do that to you, my friend.
I will go with Duck. That's a good pick.
Duck's a great meat. No, explain your face.
That is a bougie pick. No.
What? Duck is a bougie meat. Duck's not a bougie pick.
It's Mount Rushmore of meats. Listen, in all honesty, the best meats you get are at bougie places.
That's true. Duck is fantastic.
Duck is in my top three foods. Nah, yeah.
All right, fine. I'll go back.
Listen. No, no, no.
No, no, no. Duck, duck.
I have duck. I'm saying this is the beauty of me as a person, not Max little fucking hamburgers and chicken tenders over there.
I went duck. And then the next pick, I'm going to go with his sausage because sausage is fine.
That was my. That was my.
Yeah. So I can do it all, bitch.
How you like them apples? How you like them sauce? Apple sausage. Saus sausage or hot dog for the rest of your life oh sausage easy there's so many different options for sausage yeah because breakfast pizza you can get yeah you get breakfast sausage you get dry sausage italian sausage with with pasta it's sausage i'd say hot dogs and onions i'd say hot dogs, too.
I don't know. Rest of your life.

It's not even close. Think of all the cookouts that you would have to go to and not eat anything.

But think of all the time.

What are you talking about?

You just bring your own sausage.

Yeah.

I'd go hot dogs.

It's sausage.

Sausages are so good, man.

They're so good.

Okay.

I'm going to go.

I can't believe you took ribs.

What was your other one? Tell us your other one. Brisket.
Okay. Good pick going to go.
I can't believe you took ribs. What was your other one?

Tell us your other one.

Brisket.

Okay.

Good pick.

Good pick.

I'm happy I got it back.

Yeah, I probably like brisket more than ribs.

I just knew I wasn't going to get ribs.

But brisket is my favorite barbecue food.

Absolutely delicious.

No seasoning, no sauce.

If I knew how to make one, I would do it all the time.

Smoking meats.

We're smoking a bunch of meats. Okay.
This is going to be a good... This is a good Mount Rushmore.
I'll go pulled pork. Yep.
Had it on there. Had it on there.
Good pick. You were going to go sausage? I fucking love sausage.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I just started giving you all of my arguments for why sausage is...
Yeah, I mean, it's the best. It's such a versatile meat.
I ate so many hot Italian sausages. You can have it for breakfast, lunch breakfast lunch and dinner it can be the main of every of every meal that's a great point great point about my pick i love your pick all right my next pick i'm gonna go dino nuggies i'm gonna go with lobster damn uh it's fish it's fish meat max what do they call it claw meat tail meat i don't know good eat lobster You can't eat meat It's a meat I thought for some reason I should have given you guys more credit That you weren't going to go there I had it on the list Max is just His fucking caveman Duck and lobster Are on the list No, I just don His fucking caveman Well I just didn't think I know Duck and lobster Are on the list No I just don't think fish is I think fish is a different category Should we ask the Pope If he approves Is a lobster a fish It's seafood It's not a fish It's a crustacean It's not a fish Fish is also meat Yes There is also I disagree I know What are you talking about I would take meat I grew up saying that meat is different than fish like you could eat meat you grew up in a dumb house so you could eat seafood on on good friday fridays and lent your dad also that's not a little soup good friday isn't a meat draft yep good friday you can't eat meat memes back me up were you allowed were you were you allowed to eat fish on fridays and lent yeah fish fish fish fry yeah fish fry because you can't eat meat.
I understand. You can eat lobster.
Yes, you can eat lobster on Fridays and Lent because you can't eat meat. But if you're a vegetarian, you don't.
Well, no. But there's pescatarians that say they don't eat meat, but I eat fish.
But they say I don't eat meat. If you say you're a vegetarian, I don't eat meat.
That person is not going to eat lobster. But the pescatarian would say, I don't.
That's different. But they would say, I don't eat meat.
I eat fish. Yeah, those people suck.
Yes, lobster meat is considered meat because it is a crustacean and a type of seafood. I actually might hate the pescatarians more than I do vegetarians because at least stand on something.

Like if you're not going to eat steak

and sausage and ribs

and all these things,

don't then also eat like lobster.

Stand on something.

Just be no meat.

We haven't had a contentious Rushmore yet.

This is good.

And there's a lot on the board.

Yeah, a lot on the board.

I like this.

It's usually you're scraping

at the bottom of the barrel.

This is like a lobster. Okay, you have another pick? Yeah, my last pick, titties.
What? Titties is meat. Great choice.
Thanks, Max. Okay.
I think titties are meat. When was the last time you ate titties? You suck on them.
Yeah, but that's not eating them. I think titties counts as meat.
So are you saying that you're a cannibal? No, I'm just saying titties. Okay.
You can look at them. I don't know.
I mean, that's okay. We do have a lot of meats left.
I think titties are- There's so many meats left. I'm like really struggling for what to go with here.
Well, we have to deal with PFT just saying titties. Yeah, well, I mean, that just took him out of drafts.

No, I would actually say.

No, he's pandering.

That's a pander pick.

No, I love titties.

That's a pander pick.

If you put titties on any graphic, that wins.

You like glizzies and titties.

That's not a meat.

Which one do you like more, glizzies or titties?

I think this makes his list significantly worse.

But is titties a meat? No. I think that...
You could take chicken breast. Titties is meat.
In what way? We're talking about meat that you eat. Is it the Mount Rushmore meat that you eat? Oh, my God.
Fact or fiction? I don't think I've ever heard... Why don't you do, like, swim meat? Yeah, when have titties ever been referred to as meat? Good question.
Like a cock has been referred to as a meat. Yep.
I've never heard someone say look at that. Those meat look at those meaty titties.
No I don't want to look at those say that all the time. Maybe like a pepperoni gets thrown somewhere there but okay.
All right. Listen if you guys it, if you guys don't want titties on that list, because I think I think it's just not a meat.
It's not a meat. That's the only problem.
Explain how titties is a meat and we can slide. Make us a pitch on what on the spirit of this draft titties being a meat.
They're made out of they're made out of meat and fat. No, they're not made out of milk.
So you're a cannibal. No, I've never eaten them.
But, okay. Then how would it get out of Mount Rushmore? Because you can, I enjoy looking at the meat.
Okay. I'll take it off the list.
I'll take it off the list. Keep it on.
If this is going to be a big thing. No, it's not.
You keep it on. I want you to keep it on.
Sounds like it's a big thing. I think it makes your list worse.
It's not. It just doesn't make any sense with what we're doing.

That's why I want him to keep it on.

I feel like putting titties on any list is going to make it pop up.

Yeah.

But I think then when you see them stacked up against each other of really good food,

it's going to be like, oh, why did he just say titties?

It's a curious pick.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'll take it off.

What do you think, memes?

You be the judge. I was so confused when he said it.
I'll take it off What do you think memes You be the judge I was so confused when he said I'll take it off the list No you can keep it on I want him to keep it on I'm taking off the list Is he keeping it on It's been under protest Super how many people do we have I vote him I want him to keep it on I think it makes his his list worse. I vote no.
I vote yes.

Memes?

I don't think it should count.

Okay.

Because I just don't get it.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Go with something else then.

Memes will be the arbiter of these.

Memes, you're the judge now going forward because you're the only one who's not done that picks here.

So Commissioner Memes has to be the guy now.

Okay.

Right?

Should we all enact him? Yep. Commissioner memes yes now you can you admit that was that you were trying to get cute with it i'm getting cute with it yeah yeah i mean that was that was never arguing that i wasn't getting cute so i guess instead i will do uh smoked turkey leg Okay That's Turkey leg.
I had it on there. Walk and snack.
I had it on my list. That's a good pick.
That's a good pick. Me? Yeah.
I'm going to go meatballs. Ooh.
Okay. I didn't even think about meatballs.
You like the big ones or the little ones? I just like a nice homemade meatball. I mean, there's nothing like...
Think about the meatballs. If you go to an Italian restaurant, you got a couple meatballs for the table to start the meal, really judge how an Italian place is.
I had others that I thought of, but meatballs is the true answer to myself, and I went true to myself instead of pandering to the public. No, I mean the public loves meatballs public loves meatballs everyone loves everything on this list it's me it's gonna be a close list it's gonna be a close list and i i think my only concern is like i would probably put a fish here but i also think there's gonna be a lot of people who when they see the list are gonna be like fish shouldn't count as a meat i disagree with those people was a very good pick.
I agree. I agree, but I don't want to then add a different fish to it.
I'm just going to go, like Max with my gut, salami. Okay.
Good pick. I could eat a whole...
Yeah. Multiple rolls in a day.
I got a question about a technicality. Ass? No.
No. I also had ass on my list i i thought about a technicality pick as well but i just went it went away with it what was your technicality one i thought about saying prime rib but i thought it was too close to steak that is steak yeah yeah okay here's my technicality um question uh chicken parm it's fried chicken is it yeah okay yeah it It is, but it isn't.
It is. But it isn't.
But okay, that's fine. chicken.
Is it? Yeah.

Yeah.

It is, but it isn't.

It is.

But it isn't.

But okay, that's fine. I mean, it's steak.

Yeah, that's fine.

If we're doing that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, that's fine.

That's why I asked.

That's why I asked.

That's why I asked.

It's a specific type of meal,

but the main ingredient

is fried chicken breast.

That's why I asked.

Okay.

Shit.

Now Max is in my head about being bougie.

He's in my head about being bougie.

Go bougie.

It's Max.

I do have sausage on there.

Don't let...

And I can't believe this one lasted.

Lamb.

Fine.

Lamb is good.

Yeah.

I like lamb.

Lamb's good.

Lamb is good.

It's a good occasion.

Lamb chops are...

Lamb chops are... Thank you.
lamb fine lamb is good yeah i like lamb lamb's good it's good it's a good occasion sir yes i should have gone pepperoni there's so many good ones still out there would uh would euro meat have counted i mean turkey i was gonna do turkey but then pft kind of just did a specific turkey so i didn't think that would count alligator prosciutto ham ham ham prosciutto pepperoni I almost almost went full italian there was a part of me that was wanted to do chicken cutlets meatball prosciutto salami uh crab crab's good blue crab is awesome tuna not tuna fish like but the actual tuna shrimp like tuna steak oyster shrimp is good oh shrimp is one. Would oysters have counted as meat? Yeah.
I mean, if we're adding seafood, it's all seafood on the table. Yeah.
Soprasetta. Scala.
Yeah. Gabagool.
Gabagool. Gabagool was on my Italian list.
Bison. But then it started to get competitive at first, so I was like, all right, I should play the pastrami.
Pastrami's good. Corned beef.
There's a lot of of good meats out there There's a lot of good meat Pork roll I was going to go turkey before you said turkey leg I was just going to do turkey in general Very very thin though Real thin Meat Yeah. A good meatloaf is good.

A good meatloaf is good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good anything is good.

True.

Also true. Most meatloaf is bad.

I would say most.

I would take almost everything on our list over meatloaf.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

If you're like, hey, what do you want for dinner?

All 12 of our...

12?

Yeah.

I mean, it was a great list. 16 of our picks would go before meatloaf uh chicken tenders kind of fried chicken yeah cutlet fried chicken yeah chicken nuggets would wagyu have counted yeah regular chicken didn't go huh just yeah chicken breast yeah or like grilled chicken well and chicken wings yeah, yeah, that's right.
Chicken breast can be dry, though. Would Wagyu have counted? I should have.
No, because that's steak. That's steak, yeah.
Yeah. That really fucked you up.
Yeah. I thought you had one one.
But you came back with ribs. Ribs is good.
I wanted ribs. Ribs is good.
I thought I was getting lobster at the end. I wanted sausage.
That would have really taken me home. I wanted sausage.
I slept on ribs. I should not have done hot dogs.

Hot dogs would have been a third or four.

Hot dogs is how you got titties.

Great third.

Yeah.

But I think.

Hot dogs led to titties.

I think if I got hot dogs, it would have played because it would have gone burgers, then dogs

on the list.

So the combo of the two would have been like, oh, that's a strong start.

Yeah.

Okay, good list.

Good job, boys.

We got anything else?

Let's go to chill week.

So we'll be in Tahoe.

We'll be live from Tahoe on Wednesday and Friday.

Got some big interviews planned.

You guys have clean laundry?

No, because I just got back.

So I've got a suitcase that I was planning on just putting directly into the wash i do that every time i actually don't ever not have a suitcase that's full of clothes yeah it's either full of dirty clothes that has just been sitting waiting to go in the laundry the day before i travel or they're clean clothes because i'm going to travel yeah i just looked at my suitcase and i thought if it was good enough for grease it's good enough for tahoe yeah i'll just run it back yeah it's gonna look at the weather it's gonna be hot it's gonna be hot out there but uh yeah i'm excited for tahoe shane's here shout out shane yo shane shane how was your week hello what how was your How was yours? It was great. Did you do anything fun?

Went home, visited the family.

Yeah.

You go out?

Yeah.

What did you wear when you went out?

What was the July?

What did you wear when you went out?

On the boat?

No. Like, did you go out after?

Yeah.

Saw Shane do a double gainer off the boat.

Oh, fuck yes.

First time on a boat right yes what did you wish um i wore some nice nice khaki color pants and a a new vintage charger shirt just got off depop it was. It was a sick shirt, but it's just very funny because I made up the lie two months ago that Shane only when he goes out, he just puts on his best Chargers shirt.
And then Max sent me a picture for July 4th. Shane just risen it up with his best Chargers shirt on.
Well, to be fair, I didn't have a Chargers shirt before I got this Chargers shirt. So it is my only Chargers shirt.
What does that mean? You wear Chargers gear every day. I only have sweatshirts.
That's a shirt. I have no Chargers shirts.
I have sweatshirts and I have jerseys. Those are both shirts.
Now you got your shirt. This is my only shirt.
I'd like to see that Chargers shirt in Tahoe. I will wear it in Tahoe.
It would also be cool if the Chargers sent me more shirts. Oh.
Are you listening, Chargers? He's a double XL. How about this, Shane? I'll fund your Chargers.
First thing Shane's ever said on the show is let me get some Chargers merch. Shane, I'll give you a full shopping spree and Chargers merch if you promise, and you have to give this promise, that every first date you go on for the next year is chargers what does that mean like a chargers game or no what are you talking about you said every first date has to be charged that's what you wear yeah that's what you wear to a first date yeah so like even if you go like oh we're going to a classy spot chargers polo i don't know all right just the offers out there i just want to be clear i I didn't ask for it, I just said to a classy spot.
Chargers polo. I don't know.

All right.

The offer's out there.

I just want to be clear.

I didn't ask for it.

I just said it would be cool.

Yeah, but I'm telling you that if the Chargers don't come through, I will come through with that one stipulation that you go Chargers on every first date.

Can I think about it?

Yeah, absolutely.

You have as much time as you want.

Perfect.

Hey, Shane, I got a question for you. What's your decision, by the way? I need some more time.
Oh, shit. You know.
Okay. Shane, I have a question.
Yes, sir. Are titties meat? Would you consider titties meat? As just like, are we talking about consumption or just? No, just meat.
Yeah. I think it's more fatty tissue, but I guess by the technical.
I like that. I like that.
I guess technically. Have you ever eaten a titty? I don't think so.
Okay. So you're not a cannibal.
That's pretty good. Correct.
Yeah. I want your charge.
Like, dude, we can get some sick charges. That's what I'm saying.
Like, we'll find. I might even buy you a suit.
That's just Chargers. Get the Donnie Does Susie.
Yeah. You can get a suit jersey.
I want you in Chargers stuff all the time. Every date.
I'd be happy to wear it. Okay, so you made your decision.
You snuck that in at the end. I don't know yet.

Okay.

Give me a day.

Okay, fine.

But I want my answer within the next five minutes.

Okay, let's do numbers.

Numbers.

20.

8.

56.

3.

19.

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